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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Stalin on October 22, 2015, 02:25:06 PM
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will be pick the 12th best player?
or be a bit left field and take someone random? :shh
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:lol :lol :lol :lol probably pick the 40 best player knowing us we will look at a young ruckman who they will say we see him taking ivans role in the next 5 years
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Tipping it's between Dunkley (if he doesn't nominate Sydney) big bodied inside mid, played with our VFL side last year, rated by the Hackson (:help) & Ah Chee who fills the small forward need....
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It's the Tigers, we'll all know who we're taking 2 weeks out from the draft.
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Would like Oliver & Ah Chee...should've and probably could've traded for a third pick inside the top 20.
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Think we need to take a serious look at the Mooroopna lad Oliver
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Pick 12's over time........
2014 - Corey Ellis (Rich)
2013 - Ben Lennon (Rich)
2012 - Kristin Jaksch (gws)
2011 - Sam Docherty (bris)
2010 - Lukas Cook (melb)
2009 - Kane Lucas (carl)
2008 - Lewis Johnston (syd)
2007 - Cyril Rioli (haw) :o
2006 - James Frawley (melb)
2005 - nathan Jones (melb)
2004 - Danny Meyer (Rich) :-X
2003 - Ryan Murphy (freo)
2002 - Jaymond Schultz (Rich)
2001 - Brent Reilly (Adel)
2000 - Shaun Burgoyne (port)
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Tipping it's between Dunkley (if he doesn't nominate Sydney) big bodied inside mid, played with our VFL side last year, rated by the Hackson (:help) & Ah Chee who fills the small forward need....
Dunkley has said he doesn't want to go to syd from memory.
Frankly I think we need a small fwd more than another inside mid and by all accounts Dunkley sounds ok but uninspiring/without x factor.
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Tipping it's between Dunkley (if he doesn't nominate Sydney) big bodied inside mid, played with our VFL side last year, rated by the Hackson (:help) & Ah Chee who fills the small forward need....
Dunkley has said he doesn't want to go to syd from memory.
Frankly I think we need a small fwd more than another inside mid and by all accounts Dunkley sounds ok but uninspiring/without x factor.
Dunkley isn't worth pick 12, he'll go early to mid 20's.
I'd be taking talls with all our picks. A key defender with #12 any available ruckman with our 3rd round pick and another developing back with our last.
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I think we do need another inside mid who's ready to go like Cripps last year...we got lucky with Miles but we can't just go into next year relying on another GWS fringe player to solve our inside problems again, I'd prefer Oliver -who btw, was invited to train with us this year - over Dunkley.... I'd prefer Ah Chee over Dunkley too though....
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Oliver or Ah Chee.
Or a slider expected to be in the top 10..... :shh
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Tipping it's between Dunkley (if he doesn't nominate Sydney) big bodied inside mid, played with our VFL side last year, rated by the Hackson (:help) & Ah Chee who fills the small forward need....
Dunkley has said he doesn't want to go to syd from memory.
Frankly I think we need a small fwd more than another inside mid and by all accounts Dunkley sounds ok but uninspiring/without x factor.
Dunkley isn't worth pick 12, he'll go early to mid 20's.
I'd be taking talls with all our picks. A key defender with #12 any available ruckman with our 3rd round pick and another developing back with our last.
Looking at our needs i think we are still in a position where we need to take best available at 12. yep we need talls and we need smalls and everything inbetween. heres a few talls id be looking at.
KPF - Sam Wiedeman. i just see him as a power fwd he has had a fair bit of injury but he can take a mark.I want us to draft tall fwds as i still maintain we dont have enough of the right types of tall fwds.
Tall fwd - Ryan Burton - this kid has been injured with a shocking broken leg. but before that injury if you was looking for a Gunston or even Darling type hes your man. He really is the tall fwd type we dont have.
Charlie Curnow - Some compare him to Jake Stringer i suppose i can see why.What a bonus if he actually develops into a big inside mid as well. Widshful thinking here as i reckon he may go top 5.
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I fear Hackson has his heart set on Dunkley....Oliver may also have inside running as he trained with....which didn't help Heppll but get Lennon the gig....
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I fear Hackson has his heart set on Dunkley....Oliver may also have inside running as he trained with....which didn't help Heppll but get Lennon the gig....
Oliver also played a couple for us in the VFL, hard as a cats head
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When was that? I remember Dunkley but not Oliver....
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I think we do need another inside mid who's ready to go like Cripps last year...we got lucky with Miles but we can't just go into next year relying on another GWS fringe player to solve our inside problems again, I'd prefer Oliver -who btw, was invited to train with us this year - over Dunkley.... I'd prefer Ah Chee over Dunkley too though....
Cripps was drafted two years ago, the pick after Lennon.
I'm hoping after a year of injury C.Ellis will do the same thing :pray
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Yeah he was too.....should've used Martin's or Ollie Wines first year as the example....
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When was that? I remember Dunkley but not Oliver....
At least 2 games that I saw
Here ya go
R15 V Sandy
R16 V Box Hill
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Dont miss another RIOLI, If he is there get him
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Yeah he was too.....should've used Martin's or Ollie Wines first year as the example....
Cripps second year was outstanding though, he was injured most of his first season ala Ellis ;)
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C Ellis, watch him next year, will be a star, will make the likes of B Ellis, Batchelor and Conca look even more average then they are now.
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Sim Booki is the go.
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Sim Booki is the go.
You must be a very naughty Greek boy Ox.. :shh
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I think we do need another inside mid who's ready to go like Cripps last year...we got lucky with Miles but we can't just go into next year relying on another GWS fringe player to solve our inside problems again.
Thoroughly agree.
We need a small forward but we need another quality inside mid more. Inside mids win you finals.
I couldn't handle watching us get bullied in the clinches in an elimination final again.
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we will get another small forward type in the rookie draft
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we will get another small forward type in the rookie draft
Atm we have just one rookie draft pick to use. Dont hold your breath hoping.
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Atm we have just one rookie draft pick to use. Dont hold your breath hoping.
But we haven't finalised our rookies, that is who we are retaining or flicking. so we might end up with more
Will know in the next week
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Don't we have to make a call on Thomas? Something to do with 2 years on a rookie list? Or is it three?
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Don't we have to make a call on Thomas? Something to do with 2 years on a rookie list? Or is it three?
Appears we can keep him for a 3rd year
Friday 30 October 2pm - List Lodgement (1) ; Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; International Scholarship Player; Alternate Talent Player Nominations; Club Notification of Rookie Players Not Accepting a Contract of Offer; Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players Lodged; TPP Pre-Season Estimates (1).
From: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22895.msg515677#msg515677
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Cheers, must be three years then you have to re-rookie through the draft if you want them. Well, I think that's the case.
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Have a feeling Moneyblair's going to pick up Moore as a DFA to cover the inside mid need and so we can take Ah Chee at 12.
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Have we had pick 12 3yrs in a row now?
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Harrison Mckay? What do we think and what do we know?
RICHMOND
Pick 12: Generally pick 12 is a nice spot to sit and wait on draft night, because the top group generally extends beyond a dozen. There's maybe a bit more uncertainty this year about the players who will be there for the Tigers, but there will be talent available. Richmond could boost its tall forward/ruck stocks by taking Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
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Thought this was the pick 12 thread?? Moore wont be taken at pick 12.
Harrison Mckay? What do we think and what do we know?
RICHMOND
Pick 12: Generally pick 12 is a nice spot to sit and wait on draft night, because the top group generally extends beyond a dozen. There's maybe a bit more uncertainty this year about the players who will be there for the Tigers, but there will be talent available. Richmond could boost its tall forward/ruck stocks by taking Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
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Thought this was the pick 12 thread?? Moore wont be taken at pick 12.
Harrison Mckay? What do we think and what do we know?
RICHMOND
Pick 12: Generally pick 12 is a nice spot to sit and wait on draft night, because the top group generally extends beyond a dozen. There's maybe a bit more uncertainty this year about the players who will be there for the Tigers, but there will be talent available. Richmond could boost its tall forward/ruck stocks by taking Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
Only if he has the ability to play 1st ruck for me.
We already have Griffiths and Vickery, both 200cm players who 'move well and kick goals'.
Need a ruck beast.
Otherwise I'm happy for us to grab Collins as a KPD or if Weideman slips through to us (unlikely) I would consider him as a KPF.
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Don't forget McBean.
We are flush with these types atm - albeit unproven.
What we need is an electric small forward with X factor to his game.
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Don't forget McBean.
We are flush with these types atm - albeit unproven.
What we need is an electric small forward with X factor to his game.
Agreed.
Seems like the draft doesn't have a lot around our pick in terms of immediate need (small fwd, inside mid).
Ah Chee could be the best fit (skillfull, silky etc) but probably won't be ready for another 12 months from what I've read (endurance, defensive efforts need alot of work)
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The AFL website will have a series on four of the draftees that should be available around our first pick:
Darcy Tucker, Callum Ah Chee, Ryan Burton and Harley Balic will feature in this year's Going Places, which has tracked the prospects from the start of the year on their path to the 2015 NAB AFL Draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-25/going-places-tucker-ah-chee-burton-and-balic-feature-this-year
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Thought this was the pick 12 thread?? Moore wont be taken at pick 12.
Harrison Mckay? What do we think and what do we know?
RICHMOND
Pick 12: Generally pick 12 is a nice spot to sit and wait on draft night, because the top group generally extends beyond a dozen. There's maybe a bit more uncertainty this year about the players who will be there for the Tigers, but there will be talent available. Richmond could boost its tall forward/ruck stocks by taking Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
Only if he has the ability to play 1st ruck for me.
We already have Griffiths and Vickery, both 200cm players who 'move well and kick goals'.
Need a ruck beast.
Otherwise I'm happy for us to grab Collins as a KPD or if Weideman slips through to us (unlikely) I would consider him as a KPF.
Add Mc Bean to those two.
The tall player i am warming to is Ryan Burton.
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Don't forget McBean.
We are flush with these types atm - albeit unproven.
What we need is an electric small forward with X factor to his game.
keep 'em coming...
Ah Chee, Lennon, McBean, Vlastuin, C Ellis, yarren ...
i am happy with unproven if they are highly skilled - 'xfactor' nice bonus
better than the fat plodder option
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Gee that Tucker looks a good size already!!
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Forget Ah Chee, will want to go home in 15 minuts
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Forget Ah Chee, will want to go home in 15 minuts
Should we be pre-emptive and buy him a house? ;D
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Forget Ah Chee, will want to go home in 15 minuts
Should we be pre-emptive and buy him a house? ;D
Yeah, lets.. :snidegrin
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Forget Ah Chee, will want to go home in 15 minutes
Then we'll trade him for Weller, Shuey or Gaff....
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What do people think of going with Charlie Curnow if he is available?
191cm, 95kg tall inside mid/ key fwd
played as a mid growing up until more recently when he was thrown fwd and seriously crashes packs and wins the ball overhead.
Plays on instinct.
More at http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2015-draft-profile-charlie-curnow/
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What do people think of going with Charlie Curnow if he is available?
191cm, 95kg tall inside mid/ key fwd
played as a mid growing up until more recently when he was thrown fwd and seriously crashes packs and wins the ball overhead.
Plays on instinct.
More at http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2015-draft-profile-charlie-curnow/
I thought he'd be gone by 7, so if he is there at 12 it's a yes. Same with Francis.
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i dont know anything about it this year, but if would be nice if the person was ready round 1
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i dont know anything about it this year, but if would be nice if the person was ready round 1
Agreed, I really don't wanna pick up a kid who needs 3+ years to start contributing.
If we can get a bloke who is mature enough to come straight in that would be great. Like Wines/Bontempelli.
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Forget Ah Chee, will want to go home in 15 minutes
Then we'll trade him for Weller, Shuey or Gaff....
No we will end up with pick 65 or something stupid. Too much go home factor..
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I just hope we don't use pick 12 on a ruckman.
It's too big a rick IMO.
Plus decent ruckmen come up every year for trade. Happy to use a first pick on an established ruckman that has already developed and has shown he can compete.
I still think we are too short in the middle. I'd like a 190cm plus midfielder in the Mundy, Barlow, Fyfe mould. (Is there any really good mids in the draft that me be around at our pick?)
When we have Grigg starting in the middle in a finals game it tells me we are still a few really good mids short.
As for the small forward role, Mr Yarran for me.
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I just hope we don't use pick 12 on a ruckman.
It's too big a rick IMO.
Plus decent ruckmen come up every year for trade. Happy to use a first pick on an established ruckman that has already developed and has shown he can compete.
I still think we are too short in the middle. I'd like a 190cm plus midfielder in the Mundy, Barlow, Fyfe mould. (Is there any really good mids in the draft that me be around at our pick?)
When we have Grigg starting in the middle in a finals game it tells me we are still a few really good mids short.
As for the small forward role, Mr Yarran for me.
Curnow if he lasts?
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I asked Brett Anderson on twitter what he's heard ...
@mightytiges - Hi Brett, any early draft whispers about the Tigers?
@BrettAndersonIF - Big fans of Josh Dunkley but wouldnt be at pick 12...
@TexasPinkSock - are we in to oliver?
@Brett AndersonIF - A club before you might be too...
@TexasPinkSock - most have said in the teens so richmond are a good chance if they want him
@BrettAndersonIF - I think GC are a good fit.
@TexasPinkSock - i heard they were after a key position player though
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
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That's like reading your horoscope.^^
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What do people think of going with Charlie Curnow if he is available?
191cm, 95kg tall inside mid/ key fwd
played as a mid growing up until more recently when he was thrown fwd and seriously crashes packs and wins the ball overhead.
Plays on instinct.
More at http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2015-draft-profile-charlie-curnow/
WONT BE THERE GONE TOP 5 IMO AND AT THE VERY WORST TOP 10. WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS GUY BUT HE JUST WONT BE THERE SO NO POINT TALKING ABOUT HIM.
dOES ANYONE LIKE JAKE STRINGER WELL THERES YOUR COMPARISON IMO.
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stop shouting at me man, you are crueling my mellow
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@BrettAndersonIF - Big fans of Josh Dunkley but wouldnt be at pick 12...
Just in response to Brett Anderson, that hasn't stopped FJ in the past if that's the player he wants. We seem to lock onto our first pick well before the draft. The question here is whether Dunkley decides to go Father-Sons to the Swans or not.
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How do people here rate Dunkley? Would you be happy to pick him up?
I just get the sense we would pick up A Moore as a DFA and find a sml fwd in the draft
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How do people here rate Dunkley? Would you be happy to pick him up?
I just get the sense we would pick up A Moore as a DFA and find a sml fwd in the draft
Don't mind Dunkley but rate him around 20-25. I think at pick 12, the club can get a player who has better disposal. Mind you he might turn out to be like Sydney's Kennedy and that's not bad at all, but his kicking just makes me think we can do better at 12.
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What do people think of going with Charlie Curnow if he is available?
191cm, 95kg tall inside mid/ key fwd
played as a mid growing up until more recently when he was thrown fwd and seriously crashes packs and wins the ball overhead.
Plays on instinct.
More at http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2015-draft-profile-charlie-curnow/
WONT BE THERE GONE TOP 5 IMO AND AT THE VERY WORST TOP 10. WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS GUY BUT HE JUST WONT BE THERE SO NO POINT TALKING ABOUT HIM.
dOES ANYONE LIKE JAKE STRINGER WELL THERES YOUR COMPARISON IMO.
Speaking of Jake Stringer, you went on and on and on about he was the one for us in that draft IF HE SLID!
I didn't see an apologie for your wishful thinking after that draft??
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How do people here rate Dunkley? Would you be happy to pick him up?
I just get the sense we would pick up A Moore as a DFA and find a sml fwd in the draft
Don't mind Dunkley but rate him around 20-25. I think at pick 12, the club can get a player who has better disposal. Mind you he might turn out to be like Sydney's Kennedy and that's not bad at all, but his kicking just makes me think we can do better at 12.
Dunkley at 12 would be as dumb as Conca at 6.
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if hes as good as stringer
he wont be there @ 12
eh clawski ?
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he said gone top 5 stalin maybe top 10 didn't you read man lol come on bro lol :D
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Darcy Tucker is another potential top 20 draftee who has spent time down at Tigerland ...
Life as a Tiger cub
This week, Tucker got a taste of what AFL life will be like. As part of the NAB AFL Academy program, he spent five days training at Richmond. He stayed at second-year Tiger Ben Lennon's house and did everything the listed players did: he trained, did weights and attended team meetings. The Tigers' recruiters would have liked keeping him, such was the ease with which he settled in.
After an excellent 2014 season at TAC Cup level, the North Ballarat Rebels half-back is considered among the leading draft prospects this year. His week with the Tigers taught him about the high standards expected of AFL players. "On the training track the players don't put up with crap," Tucker says.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-26/going-places-footy-nut-darcy-tucker-cops-the-recruiters-blowtorch
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If he thought he learnt about high AFL standards at Richmond training, I dare say he's in for a rude shock if he ends up elsewhere...
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Have we had pick 12 3yrs in a row now?
Yep, TT.
2013 - 12. Ben Lennon (Rich)
2014 - 12. Corey Ellis (Rich)
2015 - 12. ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_AFL_draft#2013_national_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFL_draft#2014_national_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_AFL_draft#2015_national_draft
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Have we had pick 12 3yrs in a row now?
Yep, TT.
2013 - 12. Ben Lennon (Rich)
2014 - 12. Corey Ellis (Rich)
2015 - 12. ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_AFL_draft#2013_national_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFL_draft#2014_national_draft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_AFL_draft#2015_national_draft
Reward for losing 3 elim finals in a row :clapping
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The profile and vision of Callum Ah Chee, who will be available around our first pick, is up on the AFL website ....
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-10-27/draft-trumps-callum-ah-chee
28 days to the draft: Meet the jet-powered, high-flying Callum Ah Chee
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
October 27, 2015
IN HIS first game for South Fremantle's WAFL team, Callum Ah Chee kicked two late goals, took a hanger and played a pivotal role in the Bulldogs' win.
In a single game, Ah Chee produced enough exciting moments to underline his skill and ability. It was the type of display recruiters had been waiting for him to piece together.
Ah Chee, widely seen as Western Australia's leading NAB AFL Draft hopeful, didn't have the sort of under-18 carnival he had hoped for. He was shifted between a few positions and couldn't quite have the impact he wanted until his match-turning final quarter against Vic Metro in round five.
But the younger brother of Port Adelaide's Brendon Ah Chee turned around his fortunes in the back half of the season with some solid form at senior level for South Fremantle.
The classy half-forward/wingman strung together impressive form, which reminded many scouts why they had him pegged as a possible top-five pick at the start of the year.
WHY SHOULD THEY PICK HIM
Ah Chee is among the most skillful players in the draft, boasting brilliant use by foot. He can pinpoint short passes on both sides of his body, kicks accurately at goal and can make space for teammates by clever passing.
The 18-year-old separates himself from some of his fellow draft hopefuls with his aerial exploits. Despite being only 182cm, Ah Chee has a big leap on him that gives him another way to get into the game. That was evident earlier in the year at the MCG, with his huge mark in the goalsquare playing for the NAB AFL Academy.
Ah Chee's performance that day was his best of the season – he gathered 22 disposals, kicked two goals and won the medal as the best player on the ground. It was also the first sign, before his run of form for South Fremantle's senior team, that Ah Chee lifts when the standard does.
His speed (he has run a 2.88-second 20m sprint) and agility are right at the top end, and as he builds up his body he should be able to influence games on a more consistent basis. Ah Chee is also a humble professional who some clubs rate as one of the best characters in the draft.
THE QUERY
The question on Ah Chee – and he has been asked it plenty by clubs throughout the year – is around why he wasn't able to produce consistent form this season. He averaged 14 disposals in the under-18 championships, and there were a handful of games where he couldn't get involved at all.
His endurance will need to lift at the next level, but a full AFL pre-season should go a long way to improving his aerobic base.
It should be remembered Ah Chee had a serious ankle injury last year that ruled him out for more than six months and took a long time to get right. With some extra time in the gym he will also be able to add to his frame and win more of the inside ball.
PLAYS LIKE
Because of his marking strength for a player his size, Ah Chee shares some likeness to Jack Billings. Both are excellent overhead and dangerous near goal, and Ah Chee will probably have to follow a similar path to Billings, who has needed to build up his running before shifting from half-forward into the Saints' midfield.
DRAFT RANGE
Ah Chee looks to be a first-round pick at next month's draft, but where exactly is hard to pinpoint. The pick 12-25 range seems about where he will fit in. There aren't too many half-forwards in the top rungs of this year's pool.
BOTTOM LINE
An inconsistent season shouldn't cloud Ah Chee's talent. He is a player who makes things look easy and teammates look better, and will rarely appear rushed. Ah Chee might take a little while to be ready to play at senior level but is among the most prodigiously talented prospects.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Ah-Cheeinfographic.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-27/28-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-jetpowered-highflying-callum-ah-chee
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Darcy Tucker is another potential top 20 draftee who has spent time down at Tigerland ...
Life as a Tiger cub
This week, Tucker got a taste of what AFL life will be like. As part of the NAB AFL Academy program, he spent five days training at Richmond. He stayed at second-year Tiger Ben Lennon's house and did everything the listed players did: he trained, did weights and attended team meetings. The Tigers' recruiters would have liked keeping him, such was the ease with which he settled in.
After an excellent 2014 season at TAC Cup level, the North Ballarat Rebels half-back is considered among the leading draft prospects this year. His week with the Tigers taught him about the high standards expected of AFL players. "On the training track the players don't put up with crap," Tucker says.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-26/going-places-footy-nut-darcy-tucker-cops-the-recruiters-blowtorch
Part 2 on Tucker. We interviewed him.
The clubs looked for reasons Tucker hadn't been able to piece together the year he had hoped for.
Richmond's scouts asked him what he was doing to fix his weaknesses and liked the fact he had a solution to every area that needed improving.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-27/going-places-as-clubs-circle-darcy-tucker-essendons-approach-stands-out
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What do people think of going with Charlie Curnow if he is available?
191cm, 95kg tall inside mid/ key fwd
played as a mid growing up until more recently when he was thrown fwd and seriously crashes packs and wins the ball overhead.
Plays on instinct.
More at http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2015-draft-profile-charlie-curnow/
WONT BE THERE GONE TOP 5 IMO AND AT THE VERY WORST TOP 10. WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS GUY BUT HE JUST WONT BE THERE SO NO POINT TALKING ABOUT HIM.
dOES ANYONE LIKE JAKE STRINGER WELL THERES YOUR COMPARISON IMO.
Speaking of Jake Stringer, you went on and on and on about he was the one for us in that draft IF HE SLID!
I didn't see an apologie for your wishful thinking after that draft??
Ah Jakey Stringer is he not the pick of that draft to date. Scary to think how much better he can get.
Imo there is another a bit like him who should be there at 12. More like Jack gunston if anything. His name is Ryan Burton and circumstances are similar with serious injury before being drafted.
There are 9 wa players i like some are under the radar. Unlike most people i am filthy we dont have more draft picks and we did not cut a bit harder or try to trade into more picks.
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Like this Ah Chee bloke, great attitude from the vid.
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Like this Ah Chee bloke, great attitude from the vid.
We really need a high quality sml fwd and this kid could be it.It would be about time we targeted A genuine high quality sml with a decent pick. I could understand and live with us going at him.
People need to remember though this kid is a Garlett or Betts nothing about his game translates into him being able to play in the midfield. This is the only thing that stops me wanting to take him at 12.
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yep, fast, good mark (even against heavier blokes in the vid), and a good shot at the sticks, exactly what we have been missing up forward.
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Keep in mind he is a different type of small fwd - he doesn't break the lines and take on players through space like a silky Rioli or Betts when he crumbs the ball. Rather he relies more so on his footskills and whacks it on the boot.
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Callum Twomey and Nat Edwards' latest draft discussion goes through each of the clubs.
AUDIO: http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft
RICHMOND
* Their first pick at 12 is not as clear cut as last year when they were focused on mids like Lachie Weller, Corey Ellis and Liam Duggan. In the end they got Corey Ellis.
* Do they look at a Ryan Burton - a tall talented forward who may be that star that lifts them up the ladder; or do they go for a ballwinner like Rhys Mathieson or a Jade Gresham.
* Tiger supporters tweeting Twomey the most about needing a small forward. They probably do but do you go for a Callum Ah Chee at 12? A tiny bit too high. On his talent it's not but on his year it is.
* Daniel Rioli is another who keeps getting mentioned but if they want him they'll have to go for him at 12 as he won't be there at pick 52. It'll surprise Twomey if they go that way.
* They've seen a fair bit of Josh Dunkley over the course of the year. Maybe a touch too high for him.
* They've also seen Clayton Oliver play for them. He's a prospect who is dangling around the first round. Twomey can't work out in his draft order where Oliver is going to be yet. Oliver is one to watch out for over the coming 4 weeks.
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Pick 19 would have been handy :shh
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Indeed.....
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Or could have gone crazy and traded a player out
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Harrison Mckay? What do we think and what do we know?
RICHMOND
Pick 12: Harry McKay, an athletic tall who moves well for a 200cm player and kicks goals.
Don't mind the look of Mckay but looks pretty raw. Still 17yo and already 200 cm :gobdrop
Seems like he has pretty decent speed & agility for that size too.
Will be interesting to see if his brother gets taken also. I'd have no issue with him being taken as both McBean & Griffiths are all hype & no substance.
That said ya cant show ya talents on the big stage if your never getting selected.
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Callum Twomey and Nat Edwards' latest draft discussion goes through each of the clubs.
AUDIO: http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft
RICHMOND
* Their first pick at 12 is not as clear cut as last year when they were focused on mids like Lachie Weller, Corey Ellis and Liam Duggan. In the end they got Corey Ellis.
* Do they look at a Ryan Burton - a tall talented forward who may be that star that lifts them up the ladder; or do they go for a ballwinner like Rhys Mathieson or a Jade Gresham.
* Tiger supporters tweeting Twomey the most about needing a small forward. They probably do but do you go for a Callum Ah Chee at 12? A tiny bit too high. On his talent it's not but on his year it is.
* Daniel Rioli is another who keeps getting mentioned but if they want him they'll have to go for him at 12 as he won't be there at pick 52. It'll surprise Twomey if they go that way.
* They've seen a fair bit of Josh Dunkley over the course of the year. Maybe a touch too high for him.
* They've also seen Clayton Oliver play for them. He's a prospect who is dangling around the first round. Twomey can't work out in his draft order where Oliver is going to be yet. Oliver is one to watch out for over the coming 4 weeks.
Dunkley is the type in recent times FJ could go for at pick 12. A overall solid junior footballer with one of the lowest risks at that selection, as opposed to a riskier kid who could turn out to be either a A-grade hit or a total bust. I find it hard to see why else Dunkley has avoided being a Swan father-son unless he feels confident he'll end up at another club he wants to go to. Otherwise, he could end up anywhere in the country or at bottom clubs such as Brisbane, Melbourne or Carlton.
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Josh Dunkley will have another three weeks to decide whether he nominates as a father-son to the Sydney Swans or enters the open draft after the AFL extended the deadline for nominations.
The League's first deadline for nominations under the rule is on Friday, October 30, when players can be named as possible father-son recruits.
Dunkley is expected to be nominated by the Swans as part of this process this week.
However, that does not lock him in to joining the Swans at next month's NAB AFL Draft, with his final decision required by the second deadline on November 20, just four days before names are called at the Adelaide Convention Centre.
If Dunkley does choose to nominate as a father-son to the club where his dad Andrew played 217 games from 1992-2002, the Swans will then need to wait until a bid comes during the night before deciding whether to match it.
The Swans and Dunkley will continue to discuss the possibility of him nominating as a father-son pick in the lead-up to the draft, with both parties needing to agree.
Full article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-29/son-of-swan-dunkley-still-tossing-up-draft-options
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Some video clips of those mentioned in relation to us by Twomey on the AFL website:
Clayton Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5eGZepg0EM
Callum Ah Chee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceusGHMUG8
Ryan Burton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrVwAZKayg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yXnawpt6E
Darcy Tucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQC-iEJNxKs
Rhys Mathieson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4tLObz2yb4
Jade Gresham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FOzkBdv7w
Daniel Rioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGiZdR9z-M
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I havent had time to watch them all and i know it highlights but like the look of Clayton Oliver, seems strong in the hips and rarely goes to ground also has a bit of mongrel in him it seems.
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Seems Oliver will be gone by our pick.
Brett Anderson now saying Curnow will go at 3 to Melb, Parish at 4/5 to Essendon and Oliver to the Suns at 6.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Seems Oliver will be gone by our pick.
Brett Anderson now saying Curnow will go at 3 to Melb, Parish at 4/5 to Essendon and Oliver to the Suns at 6.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Yep that's the word and Weiderman with be the bummers 2nd pick. Hard to tell after 6 apart from GWS at 10 which will be Hopper. Expecting McKay to go to the wooden spooners at 8 or 11 also and Milera or Burton to Adelaide at 9.
I reckon Tucker, Gresham or Ah Chee at 12 to us. All may well be available but very likely at least 2.
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Seems Oliver will be gone by our pick.
Brett Anderson now saying Curnow will go at 3 to Melb, Parish at 4/5 to Essendon and Oliver to the Suns at 6.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Yep that's the word and Weiderman with be the bummers 2nd pick. Hard to tell after 6 apart from GWS at 10 which will be Hopper. Expecting McKay to go to the wooden spooners at 8 or 11 also and Milera or Burton to Adelaide at 9.
I reckon Tucker, Gresham or Ah Chee at 12 to us. All may well be available but very likely at least 2.
Would love Aaron Francis if he drifted to 12....
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Seems Oliver will be gone by our pick.
Brett Anderson now saying Curnow will go at 3 to Melb, Parish at 4/5 to Essendon and Oliver to the Suns at 6.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Yep that's the word and Weiderman with be the bummers 2nd pick. Hard to tell after 6 apart from GWS at 10 which will be Hopper. Expecting McKay to go to the wooden spooners at 8 or 11 also and Milera or Burton to Adelaide at 9.
I reckon Tucker, Gresham or Ah Chee at 12 to us. All may well be available but very likely at least 2.
Would love Aaron Francis if he drifted to 12....
Was thinking the same about Francis last week. Could the a huge big bodied mid in years to come. Tucker looks the perfect fit for FJ and his team but Ah Chee is appealing. The interview with Gale the night on the B&F he did say a couple of classy small forwards will be around our pick 12.....Rioli?
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The interview with Gale the night on the B&F he did say a couple of classy small forwards will be around our pick 12.....Rioli?
Would anyone actually be disappointed if we pulled the trigger with Rioli at 12?
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The interview with Gale the night on the B&F he did say a couple of classy small forwards will be around our pick 12.....Rioli?
Would anyone actually be disappointed if we pulled the trigger with Rioli at 12?
I would. He could be good but is a huge risk. At 12 you should take players the are almost guaranteed to be very very good. He would have been perfect for 31.....
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I would. He could be good but is a huge risk. At 12 you should take players the are almost guaranteed to be very very good. He would have been perfect for 31.....
I get what your saying but he's no more a risk than any other player and one thing is for sure, there are NO guarantees in the draft.I don't know where his
perceived place is in this draft but he'll be gone by our 2nd & more than likely gone by 31 too.For me though could never be disappointed seeing the name Rioli back at Tigerland.
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Dunno, was only one game we had vision of really. Liked Ah Chee better but Rioli went alright as well. Some of the others the vision was of them turning it over for most of the vids...had whipping boys written all over them.
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Dunno, was only one game we had vision of really. Liked Ah Chee better but Rioli went alright as well. Some of the others the vision was of them turning it over for most of the vids...had whipping boys written all over them.
Mathieson :help
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I would. He could be good but is a huge risk. At 12 you should take players the are almost guaranteed to be very very good. He would have been perfect for 31.....
I get what your saying but he's no more a risk than any other player and one thing is for sure, there are NO guarantees in the draft.I don't know where his
perceived place is in this draft but he'll be gone by our 2nd & more than likely gone by 31 too.For me though could never be disappointed seeing the name Rioli back at Tigerland.
Draft Ah Chee or another player who is better than Rioli and get them to change their surname to Rioli.
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et voila
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:snidegrin
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Some video clips of those mentioned in relation to us by Twomey on the AFL website:
Clayton Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5eGZepg0EM
Callum Ah Chee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceusGHMUG8
Ryan Burton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrVwAZKayg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yXnawpt6E
Darcy Tucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQC-iEJNxKs
Rhys Mathieson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4tLObz2yb4
Jade Gresham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FOzkBdv7w
Daniel Rioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGiZdR9z-M
Oliver the best from that lot by a mile IMO.
And to be honest none of them really jumped out at me.
I just hope we look past the "good character" type this year and go with a bit of flair and X factor. Something we desperately lack as a footy club.
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Would like to get Oliver if he gets through to us as well, very clean by hand and foot. Good mark, strong in the packs but he might of tanked out early. Looks a bit pudgy.
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I rate him highly though he does have a touch of Lance Whitnall about him....
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Hibberd, Ah Chee, Tucker or Burton for me in that order. Hibberd ticks all the boxes with kicking and running a highlight. Big decision coming up the the recruiting team. Go out with a bang FJ :clapping
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Seems Oliver will be gone by our pick.
Brett Anderson now saying Curnow will go at 3 to Melb, Parish at 4/5 to Essendon and Oliver to the Suns at 6.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Yep that's the word and Weiderman with be the bummers 2nd pick. Hard to tell after 6 apart from GWS at 10 which will be Hopper. Expecting McKay to go to the wooden spooners at 8 or 11 also and Milera or Burton to Adelaide at 9.
I reckon Tucker, Gresham or Ah Chee at 12 to us. All may well be available but very likely at least 2.
Would love Aaron Francis if he drifted to 12....
Was thinking the same about Francis last week. Could the a huge big bodied mid in years to come.
Whether true or not, there's talk of concerns of the go-home factor with Francis. The Crows will probably get him at 9 anyway.
Also, Worsfold apparently mentioned at his press conference that they were interested in someone fast with one of their first two picks. So some journos thinking that could mean Milera. That would mean Weiderman slips to at least 7, if the Suns go for Oliver at 6.
Twomey also saying Oliver will be gone inside the top 10.
1. Carl - Weitering
2. Bris - Schache
3. Melb - Curnow
4. Ess - Parish
5. Ess - Milera
6. GC - Oliver
7. Melb - Weiderman
8. Carl -
9. Adel - Francis
10. GWS -
11. Carl -
12. Rich -
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-31/morrish-medallist-clayton-oliver-adds-top10-twist
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
Brett Anderson having Hibberd going later than 14.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-41#post-41826301
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-41#post-41826301
Gee i hope not, many others ahead of him i would have thought.
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Will Harley Balic slide to us? Would far prefer him to Mathieson.
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Id be happy to take a tall at 12. One of Ryan Burton, Kieran Collins, Charlie Curnow, would do me.
Would offer pick 12 for Mathew Kennedy and see if gws come to the party which is likely.
With our second pick i would go for Oleg Markov if still there which i doubt. He is a kid i wanted us to take last year.
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The interview with Gale the night on the B&F he did say a couple of classy small forwards will be around our pick 12.....Rioli?
Would anyone actually be disappointed if we pulled the trigger with Rioli at 12?
yeah, id generally prefer not to 'reach' with our first pick for someone that is generally rated 15 odd spots back
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yeah, id generally prefer not to 'reach' with our first pick for someone that is generally rated 15 odd spots back
Only time will tell if it is a reach.
;)
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Mathieson looks pretty good in the packs, looks tough & courageous, looks like a really good in-under mid.
But, he wont be a quick fix for us. He will need time to develop & bulk up, which you have to expect from any 19yo. He will fill a need for us as a solid midfielder when he is ready, has good prospects but is not a quick fix.
Oliver was a standout but he will surely be gone by 12, looks ready to play - Voss-like ... wouldn't be disappointed with either Mathieson or Oliver for pick 12.
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-41#post-41826301
I hope not from just going off his highlight package. Pretty average IMO. Surely there is better than that at pick 12??
Why another inside mid anyway if we already have Miles who most people rate. Townsend is inside apparently and most likely Moore will be drafted.
I think we actually need more outside run with pace and class.
Is there any standout outside midfielder than may be around at pick 12? Ready to go would be a bonus as well.
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-41#post-41826301
Yeah and why wouldn't we, he turned the ball over in every time he had the ball in the video lol
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-41#post-41826301
Yeah and why wouldn't we, he turned the ball over in every time he had the ball in the video lol
perfect fit :shh
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Word is the tigers are very keen on Mathieson.
Highlights show he is neither elite by foot or hand, in fact wouldn't even class him as good by hand or foot.
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Mathieson looks pretty good in the packs, looks tough & courageous, looks like a really good in-under mid.
But, he wont be a quick fix for us. He will need time to develop & bulk up, which you have to expect from any 19yo. He will fill a need for us as a solid midfielder when he is ready, has good prospects but is not a quick fix.
Oliver was a standout but he will surely be gone by 12, looks ready to play - Voss-like ... wouldn't be disappointed with either Mathieson or Oliver for pick 12.
if you think he looks good in the packs id suggest you look at his "highlights" again and pay particular attention to his handballs from congestion
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Jeez...Mathieson's "highlights" package looks more like a blooper reel....can just see Hackson leaving such a parting gift...
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The highlight reel worries me
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if that is the highlights, I would hate to see the blooper out takes LOL
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I'm really uncomfortable with the possibility we want him.
Surely not?
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after the townsend being a goal kicker comments we will probably get something about how composed and clean by hands out of congestion he is
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Put up his bloopers to fool opposition clubs. A cunning plan! :shh
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Melbourne set to pick midfielder Darcy Parish ahead of Essendon
Herald-Sun
November 2, 2015
SAM LANDSBERGER’S EARLY TOP 10
[current pick 1] 1. Jacob Weitering (Carlton) 195cm key defender
[2] 2. Josh Schache (Brisbane Lions) 199cm key forward
3. Callum Mills (Sydney) 188cm midfielder*
4. Jacob Hopper (GWS Giants) 186cm midfielder*
[3] 5. Darcy Parish (Melbourne) 181cm midfielder
6. Matthew Kennedy (GWS Giants) 187cm midfielder*
[4] 7. Wayne Milera (Essendon) 185cm half-forward
[5] 8. Charlie Curnow (Essendon) 191cm midfield/forward
9. Eric Hipwood (Brisbane Lions) 202cm swingman*
[6] 10. Clayton Oliver (Gold Coast) 187cm midfielder
*Academy selection
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The Demons, also armed with pick No. 7, are fans of the injury-plagued Weideman and can see him forming a lethal partnership with Rising Star Jesse Hogan.
Marking forward Harry McKay is unlikely to get past Carlton (No. 8 ) and Adelaide (9).
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-melbourne-to-pick-midfielder-darcy-parish-at-no-3-before-essendon/news-story/596e6c2b20b18ca5b7a2d1e654ae6578
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yeah, id generally prefer not to 'reach' with our first pick for someone that is generally rated 15 odd spots back
Only time will tell if it is a reach.
;)
true, but, if they wanted someone who is expected to go around 20-30
they could keep the pick in that range
or trade someone out to get a pick around then
thus getting both the best available remaining talent with our first rounder and the player they have an eye on, expected to go somewhat deeper in the draft
more so when publicly said they are not going for a 'big fish' prior to draft week
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check out the big brain on Brad
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Some video clips of those mentioned in relation to us by Twomey on the AFL website:
Clayton Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5eGZepg0EM
Callum Ah Chee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceusGHMUG8
Ryan Burton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrVwAZKayg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yXnawpt6E
Darcy Tucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQC-iEJNxKs
Rhys Mathieson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4tLObz2yb4
Jade Gresham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FOzkBdv7w
Daniel Rioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGiZdR9z-M
Oliver the best from that lot by a mile IMO.
And to be honest none of them really jumped out at me.
I just hope we look past the "good character" type this year and go with a bit of flair and X factor. Something we desperately lack as a footy club.
Agree!
Tucker would be next.
Matheison can't hit a target and looks weak. No!
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Brett Anderson's disagrees with Landsberger. He is still saying Curnow to Melbourne at 3.
With the inclusion of the academy kids (Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Keays & Hipwood), our pick drops to 17 on Callum Twomey's top 25 list. He has Ah Chee at our pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-01/phantom-form-guide-update
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Melbourne set to pick midfielder Darcy Parish ahead of Essendon
Herald-Sun
November 2, 2015
SAM LANDSBERGER’S EARLY TOP 10
[current pick 1] 1. Jacob Weitering (Carlton) 195cm key defender
[2] 2. Josh Schache (Brisbane Lions) 199cm key forward
3. Callum Mills (Sydney) 188cm midfielder*
4. Jacob Hopper (GWS Giants) 186cm midfielder*
[3] 5. Darcy Parish (Melbourne) 181cm midfielder
6. Matthew Kennedy (GWS Giants) 187cm midfielder*
[4] 7. Wayne Milera (Essendon) 185cm half-forward
[5] 8. Charlie Curnow (Essendon) 191cm midfield/forward
9. Eric Hipwood (Brisbane Lions) 202cm swingman*
[6] 10. Clayton Oliver (Gold Coast) 187cm midfielder
*Academy selection
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The Demons, also armed with pick No. 7, are fans of the injury-plagued Weideman and can see him forming a lethal partnership with Rising Star Jesse Hogan.
Marking forward Harry McKay is unlikely to get past Carlton (No. 8 ) and Adelaide (9).
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-melbourne-to-pick-midfielder-darcy-parish-at-no-3-before-essendon/news-story/596e6c2b20b18ca5b7a2d1e654ae6578
The key statement for us in that article is the one about Dimma:
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick believes first-round talents should be able to play immediately.
Who is the most "ready-made" type around our pick?
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So we know who to blame foir drafting the same types with our first pick every year.....except Lennon....who Hardwick never plays anyway...
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Jade Gresham looks like a ready made mid that can play forward. I like his vid quite a bit, especially that goal near the end. Would not be unhappy with him as he plays well on a consistent basis too and has the body that looks like will get strong through the core. Almost Stevie J like with some of the things he can do.
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Oliver will go before our pick so we'll grab that spud Mathieson because he's "ready made".....
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ahhh, McCain oven fries.
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If the real draft turned out like this mock one, a few people here would be pretty happy.
Carlton – Pick 1 - Jacob Weitering
Brisbane – Pick 2 - Josh Schache
Sydney – Pick 3 - Callum Mills
Melbourne – Pick 4 - Charlie Curnow
GWS – Pick 5 - Jacob Hopper
GWS -Pick 6 - Matthew Kennedy
Essendon -Pick 7 - Darcy Parish
Essendon – Pick 8 - Aaron Francis
Gold Coast – Pick 9 - Wayne Milera
Melbourne – Pick 10 - Sam Weideman
Brisbane – Pick 11 - Eric Hipwood
Carlton – Pick 12 - Rhys Matheison
Adelaide – Pick 13 - Ryan Burton
Brisbane – Pick 14 - Ben Keays
Carlton – Pick 15 - Harry McKay
Richmond – Pick 16 - Clayton Oliver
Plenty of talk that the Tigers would look at a ruck or half forward here but I don’t see why. They rotate their star mids through the forward line. They also have guys like Edwards, Lennon and Lambert who play the small forward role. I think they still need another star midfielder. I landed with Oliver here. Big body – tick. Kicks goals – tick. Mobile – tick. A guy like Oliver means that he fits straight into the mid/forward rotations.
Adelaide – Pick 17 - Riley Bonner
St Kilda – Pick 18 - Darcy Tucker
Hawthorn – Pick 19 - Kieran Collins
Gold Coast – Pick 20 - Callum Ah Chee
North Melb. – Pick 21 - Jade Gresham
Hawthorn – Pick 22 - Harley Balic
Carlton – Pick 23 - Ryan Clarke
W.Bulldogs – Pick 24 - Marcus Adams
W.Bulldogs – Pick 25 - Mitchell Hibberd
http://coachespanel.com.au/rids-2015-phantom-draft-the-first-round/
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check out the big brain on Brad
If u want someone expected 30 odd; Don't trade out your pick 30 odd, Or get another pick in that range
Not rocket surgery , is it?
Gives me the poos they like 'reaching'. Still hve nightmares about Jon over Hurn
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Happy to get Yarram - know ability with improvement- and wont be unhappy to get Ah Chee (Archie) - great ability and quality person
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Fox Footy has Balic at our pick.
Fox Footy’s phantom draft: The top 25 prospects ranked
Foxsports.com.au
November 3, 2015
PICK 1: CARLTON — JACOB WEITERING (Dandenong Stingrays)
PICK 2: BRISBANE — JOSH SCHACHE (Murray Bushrangers)
PICK 3: SYDNEY ACADEMY SELECTION — CALLUM MILLS (North Shore)
PICK 4: MELBOURNE — DARCY PARISH (Geelong Falcons)
PICK 5: GWS GIANTS ACADEMY SELECTION — JACOB HOPPER (North Ballarat)
PICK 6: ESSENDON — CHARLIE CURNOW (Geelong Falcons)
PICK 7: ESSENDON — SAM WEIDEMAN (Eastern Ranges)
PICK 8: GWS GIANTS ACADEMY SELECTION — MATTHEW KENNEDY (Collingullie-GP)
PICK 9: GOLD COAST — AARON FRANCIS (West Adelaide)
PICK 10: MELBOURNE — HARRY McKAY (Gippsland Power)
PICK 11: BRISBANE ACADEMY SELECTION — ERIC HIPWOOD (Aspley)
PICK 12: CARLTON — RYAN BURTON (North Adelaide)
PICK 13: ADELAIDE — WAYNE MILERA (Central District)
PICK 14: CARLTON — CLAYTON OLIVER (Murray Bushrangers)
PICK 15: RICHMOND — HARLEY BALIC (Sandringham Dragons)
A high half-forward who is just as able to rotate through the midfield, Harley Balic is an interesting prospect. A talented junior basketballer, Balic’s time and awareness in space has naturally led to comparisons with Collingwood captain Scott Pendlebury. He averaged 23 disposals per game in the TAC Cup and 22 touches in the national championships. He has a heap of upside, but is one that could slide or bolt up the order. He could be a good fit at Richmond due to his potential of becoming a quality goal-kicking midfielder.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2015/11/02/1227590/793814-baf17ea0-80f9-11e5-a5dd-1e7c73f0bb93.jpg)
Harley Balic playing for the Dragons. Picture: Chris Eastman. Source: News Corp Australia
PICK 16: BRISBANE ACADEMY SELECTION — BEN KEAYS (Redlands)
PICK 17: ADELAIDE — RHYS MATHIESON (Geelong Falcons)
PICK 18: ST KILDA — JADE GRESHAM (Northern Knights)
PICK 19: HAWTHORN — KIERAN COLLINS (Dandenong Stingrays)
PICK 20: GOLD COAST — CALLUM AH CHEE (South Fremantle)
PICK 21: NORTH MELBOURNE — DARCY TUCKER (North Ballarat)
PICK 22: HAWTHORN — RILEY BONNER (West Adelaide)
PICK 23: CARLTON — RYAN CLARKE (Eastern Ranges)
PICK 24: WESTERN BULLDOGS — MITCHELL HIBBERD (Clarence)
PICK 25: WESTERN BULLDOGS — BEN McKAY (Gippsland Power)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/fox-footys-phantom-draft-the-top-25-prospects-ranked/story-e6frf3e3-1227590794404
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So we know who to blame foir drafting the same types with our first pick every year.....except Lennon....who Hardwick never plays anyway...
And nearly got rid of at 19 years old ...
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VIDEOS of Harley Balic:
Meet Harley Balic: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-02/draft-trumps-harley-balic
Balic vs SA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTfcFtLYYLU
Balic vs WA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1O_BM6kDo0
AFL website PROFILE: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-02/22-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-versatile-hardnut-harley-balic
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@michaelgteach - Oliver appears the bolter - shot up from 20's to a 5/6 chance in no time. Can you explain how these sudden surges happen?
Brett Anderson - Only appears sudden in media. Has been rising in clubs thoughts consistently in back half of year.
Callum Twomey - his best form came August onwards and he tested well at the combine. Bolters generally are guys whose talent seems untapped
Callum Twomey - well they [Essendon] are considering oliver so he's in the mix.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
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Well he looks a hell of a lot better than RHYS MATHIESON and being compared to Scott Pendlebury can only be seen as a positive, for what comparisons are worth.
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Would take Ah Chee before Balic.
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Would take Ah Chee before Balic.
Too much go home factor mate, if he was a Victorian I would Ah Chee with you.. ;D ;D ;D
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Has his brother gone home yet?
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true, but, if they wanted someone who is expected to go around 20-30
they could keep the pick in that range
or trade someone out to get a pick around then
Spot on where was the trading to get another pick around 20-25
Are they honestly trying to tell us we were Yarran short of a flag?
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We never trade for meaningful higher picks.....gives me the shytes....especially when we have an habitual overreacher like Hackson in charge....have a feeling he's going to leave us with another Conca pick as a parting gift....
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Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.
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Considering these videos are invariably put together to showcase the very best of a player and that was all they could come up with, I'd suggest it's a fairly reasonable conclusion.....
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Considering these videos are invariably put together to showcase the very best of a player and that was all they could come up with, I'd suggest it's a fairly reasonable conclusion.....
Not necessarily oh dark lord.
Most videos highlight the players performances at the state championships. There, they may have been carrying an injury or just plain did not have their best games. Case in point was Buddy who performed poorly in the state championships in the year of his draft (2004).
It is unusual for youtube to have vids of these players playing for their TAC Cup sides until they are loaded up by the recruiting staff after they are drafted. That is why we get better packages after they are recruited.
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
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Hope Carlton draft him....
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So we know who to blame foir drafting the same types with our first pick every year.....except Lennon....who Hardwick never plays anyway...
And nearly got rid of at 19 years old ...
What, when did we 'nearly' get rid of Lennon? Stated clearly that we wanted to re-sign him & did ... where was the 'nearly'?
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Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.
the problem is the vid is a "highlights" reel & it makes him look like a spud, have heard he's far better so if anyone has a better vid of him we'd all love to see it as it will no doubt change our opinion. just that if that's his best then it's a no from me
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor
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Would take Ah Chee before Balic.
Too much go home factor mate, if he was a Victorian I would Ah Chee with you.. ;D ;D ;D
He needs indigenous company. Thank goodness we have Yarran, Shed and Drummond to make him feel at home. Hopefully we will look at Davin Ferreira and Shane Yarran too. Maybe we should call this draft/trade period the indigenous round. ;D
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Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.
the problem is the vid is a "highlights" reel & it makes him look like a spud, have heard he's far better so if anyone has a better vid of him we'd all love to see it as it will no doubt change our opinion. just that if that's his best then it's a no from me
Its not a highlights video. Its everytime he got the pill in 2 games. Not taking into account TAC cup play or his previous year where he was a U18 AA as a bottom ager. People are gushing all over Clayton oliver but his video has no carnival footage (cause he didnt play) and only has footage from a lesser competition.
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor
Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.
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So we know who to blame foir drafting the same types with our first pick every year.....except Lennon....who Hardwick never plays anyway...
And nearly got rid of at 19 years old ...
lol, drama queen.
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rose colored glasses enthusiast
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Ahhhhh the good old Nelly
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ohhh, the cow kicked nelly in the belly in the barn.............
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We never trade for meaningful higher picks.....gives me the shytes....especially when we have an habitual overreacher like Hackson in charge....have a feeling he's going to leave us with another Conca pick as a parting gift....
Yep
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Jade Gresham looks like a ready made mid that can play forward. I like his vid quite a bit, especially that goal near the end. Would not be unhappy with him as he plays well on a consistent basis too and has the body that looks like will get strong through the core. Almost Stevie J like with some of the things he can do.
Just watched his clip and didn't think his name had been mentioned but its good to know that at least one of you mugs has a keen eye for talent.
This is the one to take people,get around him.
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Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.
the problem is the vid is a "highlights" reel & it makes him look like a spud, have heard he's far better so if anyone has a better vid of him we'd all love to see it as it will no doubt change our opinion. just that if that's his best then it's a no from me
this may be true but he was at least hitting targets.... the point of these video's is to sell the Players to the Clubs "here is what he can do" etc....
put it this way, based on that video, his "attributes" shown in the video will not win us a Final...
Its not a highlights video. Its everytime he got the pill in 2 games. Not taking into account TAC cup play or his previous year where he was a U18 AA as a bottom ager. People are gushing all over Clayton oliver but his video has no carnival footage (cause he didnt play) and only has footage from a lesser competition.
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor
Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.
that's just it tho, he wasn't hitting targets & sides now are extremely good at scoring from turnovers. no doubt he's better than the video suggests but i can only go off what i have seen.
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Jade Gresham looks like a ready made mid that can play forward. I like his vid quite a bit, especially that goal near the end. Would not be unhappy with him as he plays well on a consistent basis too and has the body that looks like will get strong through the core. Almost Stevie J like with some of the things he can do.
Just watched his clip and didn't think his name had been mentioned but its good to know that at least one of you mugs has a keen eye for talent.
This is the one to take people,get around him.
Too small & possessions aren't damaging - a short version of B.Ellis...besides, from all reports we're either taking a big bodied inside mid or a small forward with our first pick- he is neither....though he could probably play as a small forward who can play midfield, which I'd prefer to a specialist small forward....having said that, I still wouldn't take him ahead of Ah Chee...
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor
Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.
that's just it tho, he wasn't hitting targets & sides now are extremely good at scoring from turnovers. no doubt he's better than the video suggests but i can only go off what i have seen.
I couldn't make heads or tails of your previous post, but how many of those were kicks out of congested situations. There wasn't a lot coming from a standing position. Our own captain is know for just moving the ball forward in contested situations. Most of the kicks in open play - if not all - hit the target
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You'd expect a first round pick to hit all targets when in the open, which he probably hit half. Not sure about others but I'm more focused on his handballs out of congestion not his kicks. Kicks at least get it going forward a decent way whereas his handballs were always to dirt and gave no advantage whatsoever
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You'd expect a first round pick to hit all targets when in the open, which he probably hit half. Not sure about others but I'm more focused on his handballs out of congestion not his kicks. Kicks at least get it going forward a decent way whereas his handballs were always to dirt and gave no advantage whatsoever
Jua
St watched again and of the times he was not in a conteat situation (a total of 12 by my count). He had 8 possessions that hit the target. 2 that i didnt count were to 1 v 1 contests and one other was a deep inside 50 kick.
Sure loop handballs arent great, i'll concede that point, but only one in the vision everyones already made a conclusion on was he NOT in traffic. It was either referred pressure, hanballs under pressure cause he hunted rhe ball and got first use of it or trying to get bis arms free to dispose of it in the first place.
Im just bewildered how everyone has made a solid expert opinion based on that one video. Reminds me of last year where 80% od people seemed to be anti Corey Ellis because he was so 'vanilla' all based on bloody youtube footage. Howd that work out.
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Oh ffs, just face facts Mrs. Mathieson...your boy's a hack....
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Oh ffs, just face facts Mrs. Mathieson...your boy's a hack....
As much of a hack as you are quality poster.
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Indeed. Glad to see you finally coming around. :cheers
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Hehehe well played :D
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Im just bewildered how everyone has made a solid expert opinion based on that one video. Reminds me of last year where 80% od people seemed to be anti Corey Ellis because he was so 'vanilla' all based on bloody youtube footage. Howd that work out.
Dunno yet
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Too small & possessions aren't damaging - a short version of B.Ellis...besides, from all reports we're either taking a big bodied inside mid or a small forward with our first pick- he is neither....though he could probably play as a small forward who can play midfield, which I'd prefer to a specialist small forward....having said that, I still wouldn't take him ahead of Ah Chee...
Too small for afl?
Please, what utter horse poo.
Since when do indigenous kids need to be tall to play AFL?
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Too small for us......midfield's undersized enough as it is....we need bigger mids, not smaller ones....
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We need mids that can get the pill and deliver it well into our 50m zone, hitting targets or kicking goals. If they can do that, I don't care how tall they are.
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A good big man will always beat a good little man...no more stuffing midgets....
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Sam Mitchell is 179 cm (at a stretch - I have met him and he isn't that tall).
Doesn't seem to worry him. Just can't outmark many players but that isn't what he does best....
What Im saying is that I'd rather have a better player than a taller player. If they are of equal ability, then of course take the bigger unit as that goes without saying.
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We need quality not quantity.
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A good big man will always beat a good little man...no more stuffing midgets....
At what specifically?
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Sam Mitchell is 179 cm (at a stretch - I have met him and he isn't that tall).
Doesn't seem to worry him. Just can't outmark many players but that isn't what he does best....
What Im saying is that I'd rather have a better player than a taller player. If they are of equal ability, then of course take the bigger unit as that goes without saying.
Well if it's between Gresham and Mathieson I'll definitely take the former..hell I'd take Caleb Daniel before Mathieson..but the club has expressly stated they're primarily after bigger bodied mids & small forwards, so unless they see him as more of a small forward, I highly doubt we'll be taking a 177cm mid with our first pick... even Ah Chee the small forward we're supposedly considering is 182 cm....
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A good big man will always beat a good little man...no more stuffing midgets....
At what specifically?
Everything except limbo & Ronny Corbett look -a- like contests.
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Ah Chee the small forward we're supposedly considering is 182 cm....
Is this the Ah Chee your referring to.
http://bit.ly/1IgV2pU
:shh
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More a small forward than a mid, 5 cm taller than Gresham. Try again Ramps.
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More a forward than a mid, 5 cm taller than Gresham. Try again Ramps.
Did you notice the expressions on their faces?
Gresham - cool calm & collected.
Ah Chee - Doh !
:snidegrin
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Interesting stats from that game too, Ah Chee only beat Gresham on 1 stat that day.
Clangers!
:shh
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Spin it however you want - I know which one is more likely to be playing for us next year....hint: it ain't your boy.... :shh
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Interesting stats from that game too, Ah Chee only beat Gresham on 1 stat that day.
Clangers!
:shh
you know the rules, youve been around here long enough
link , or it didnt happen
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Spin it however you want - I know which one is more likely to be playing for us next year....hint: it ain't your boy.... :shh
I actually like some of what I've seen of Ah Chee, just not sold for pick 12.
Interesting stats from that game too, Ah Chee only beat Gresham on 1 stat that day.
Clangers!
:shh
you know the rules, youve been around here long enough
link , or it didnt happen
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-16/u18-championships-div-1-round-4-stats
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Spin it however you want - I know which one is more likely to be playing for us next year....hint: it ain't your boy.... :shh
Addendum: Discounting chaos theory aka The Hackson factor.
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Spin it however you want - I know which one is more likely to be playing for us next year....hint: it ain't your boy.... :shh
I actually like some of what I've seen of Ah Chee, just not sold for pick 12.
I agree he would be a slight overreach at 12 but if we go the small forward option, as we've hinted we might, he'll be the best available.
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From BF....
We are massive on Ryan Burton club has fitness program for him he has even been using the clubs gym will be our man if there at our pick
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-54#post-41875431
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Saw that on FB too :lol
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Apparently Tom Lynch and a few others have used our facilties for rehab too.....so it probably means nothing....also noticed that particular poster posted a lot of b.s. rumours in the trade thread over there as well and is generally regarded as a troll...
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There's footage of Burton training at Punt Rd here:
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-04/going-places-ryan-burton
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Callum Twomey's latest on the draft:
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft
* No idea yet about the Tiges this year. It isn't clear cut unlike last year when they wanted midfield class and got Corey Ellis.
* Clayton Oliver spent time with their VFL team and they are looking at him but he is likely to be gone before their pick 12.
* Or do they go for Ryan Burton - talented but has a question or two. Broke his leg and shattered his knee in a school game in August last year. Hasn't played since. Tested at the combine though and ran as well as he could. Confident kid and backs himself. Burton told Twomey a week or so ago that he would've been classed as the best kid in the draft if he hadn't injured himself. Recruiters like the kids with a bit of spark. He's a sporty kid and has it all. Wants to play round 1 next year.
* Or do they go for Jade Gresham - small midfielder who may turn into a small forward initially.
* On the draft depth itself:
- First 10-12 kids - really good and confident they will make it.
- Next group up to 25 - pretty sure will be decent AFL players including a few untapped stars.
- Next 15 has a couple more good players.
- After pick 45 - it's a wait and see.
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Ryan Burton - Burton told Twomey a week or so ago that he would've been classed as the best kid in the draft if he hadn't injured himself
;D
I like this kid! A bit of spunk! Could be the next Nat Fyfe but also could be the next injured soul never able to play AFL consistently because of the injury.
The ultimate boom or bust.
Thoughts?
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Ryan Burton - Burton told Twomey a week or so ago that he would've been classed as the best kid in the draft if he hadn't injured himself
;D
I like this kid! A bit of spunk! Could be the next Nat Fyfe but also could be the next injured soul never able to play AFL consistently because of the injury.
The ultimate boom or bust.
Thoughts?
Kid looks like he can play & no shortage of confidence but will those inner demons be there to cast doubt over the stability of that knee?
Twomey mentions Oliver Gresham & Burton as candidates for our 1st.
If FJ has his eye on another who he thinks is better than those boys we should be alright .
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Maybe another Conca gem.
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'Going Places' articles on Ryan Burton:
All clubs barring the Dogs interviewed him.
For some recruiters, seeing Burton run freely was one of the highlights of the combine. He tested solidly, logging 3.09 seconds for the 20-metre sprint and 25.69 for the repeat sprints. He finished the 3-km time trial in 11:52 minutes. Given his circumstances, it was a good effort. Most importantly, he didn't limp around. After 14 months out, he looked like an athlete again.
"I showed my knee's not an issue," he says. "I didn't test at my best but the fact that I tested with my knee feeling 100 per cent the whole time made me walk away pretty happy.
"I was nervous about how I'd pull up, because it was a busy four days, especially on the hard floorboards. But it must be a lot stronger than I thought because it felt fine every morning and at the end of the week I had no concerns with it."
"I'd like to go to Melbourne, it's the home of footy," he says.
Part 1: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-04/going-places-the-moment-that-could-have-ended-ryan-burtons-afl-dream
Part 2: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-05/going-places-20-months-without-footy-but-burton-might-still-go-top20
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And here's the AFL website's profile article on Twomey's other choice for us: Jade Gresham - who is classed to go between our pick 12 and pick 25.
If Gresham's height [178cm] puts you off, think again. The only problem with smaller midfielders is when they don't have a standout quality. But Gresham has a number of tricks that will translate to the next level. Wind him up and let him go, because he's a natural player.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Gresham.jpg)
Full profile and article here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-04/20-days-to-the-draft-meet-boomer-harveys-protege-jade-gresham
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There's footage of Burton training at Punt Rd here:
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-04/going-places-ryan-burton
Out of bounds!
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Hmmm if we draft Gresham then we must be having two bob each way and trying to address our midfield depth & small forward needs with one player whilst relying on Townsend & Moore to fulfill the need for bigger bodied inside mids. Not sure that's the best approach.
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From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.
Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video
While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor
Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.
that's just it tho, he wasn't hitting targets & sides now are extremely good at scoring from turnovers. no doubt he's better than the video suggests but i can only go off what i have seen.
I couldn't make heads or tails of your previous post, but how many of those were kicks out of congested situations. There wasn't a lot coming from a standing position. Our own captain is know for just moving the ball forward in contested situations. Most of the kicks in open play - if not all - hit the target
agree 100% last thing we need is another turnover merchant that costs us goals. as i said before, i am only going off what i have seen of him, if there is a clip that represents him better i am open to watching it & changing my opinion so feel free to post it!
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I can tolerate another safe pick so we definitely have a solid young core going forward, but if it's time to be daring then that Burton could have massive pay offs.
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He will play for 2 years in the VFL lose interest and we will delist him.
For some reason Dimma just doesn't give kids a go IMO
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There's footage of Burton training at Punt Rd here:
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-04/going-places-ryan-burton
Out of bounds!
Here you go, Yeahright:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-05/going-places-ryan-burton
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
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From Brett Anderon's twitter tonight:
@TexasPinkSock - Heard a rumour richmond are very keen on ryan burton, any word if thats correct? Were do you expect him to go? Is he a gun?
@BrettAndersonIF - Yeah have heard that recently. He's a top 5 talent but some clubs have major concerns over his knee.
@TexasPinkSock - So do you expect him available at pick 12?
@BrettAndersonIF - I think so. I have him going a bit later due to those knee concerns but that doesn't mean a team won't nab him a lot earlier.
@TexasPinkSock - So talent is not an issue at all? If you can get the knees right, he could be a star?
@BrettAndersonIF - Yes. Think jack gunston.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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I like Gresham too, got some slick skills. If we pick up Oliver, Greshem, Ah Chee, perhaps Rioli, willing to even have a gamble on Blurton, would be happy. Snappin your leg just below the knee though....sheeeyat...hope he is drinking his milk... I suppose as long as it was below the knee ligaments that join the tib so there was no complications, he is still young and growing. Brownie did his when he was pretty mature, how old was he? Talking myself out of it I think lol
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There's footage of Burton training at Punt Rd here:
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-04/going-places-ryan-burton
Out of bounds!
Here you go, Yeahright:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-05/going-places-ryan-burton
Thanks beautiful
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Out of interest how many of our previous 1st round selections have trained at PRO in the lead up to their draft?
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Who cares?
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Who cares?
Well Lennon trained with us and we took him. Vickery & Cotchin did as welll but not sure about the others, might mean Burtons the pick.
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So did Vlas and Ellis
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@TexasPinkSock - Are richmond interested in ah chee at all? Likely to be at pick 12?
@BrettAndersonIF - Perfect fit. Have a few others in their mix too.
@TexasPinkSock - such as?
@BrettAndersonIF - Burton a chance. They like Dunkley but probably not that early. Also depends who slides through.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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so i am assuming here the preference at #12 seems to be Oliver/Ah Chee depending on if Oliver is there or not, Gresham/Mathieson/Burton next as the other choices.
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Who cares?
:lol
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.
We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.
If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.
Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.
If Oliver and Burton/Curnow are gone then im all for addressing our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
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Miles is not small, he is a rank below the very best ball winners in the comp
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.Would also consider Curnow if available.
WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS GUY BUT HE JUST WONT BE THERE SO NO POINT TALKING ABOUT HIM.
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.
We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.
If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.
Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.
If Oliver and Burton/Curnow are gone then im all for addressing our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed. If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......
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I wouldn't use our first pick on a kid who hasn't played for a year....injury's potentially a lot worse than Stringer's was from a long term point of view....with our luck he'll be another Morabito or Menzel....
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Can Ah Chee play as a tall forward if required?
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Can Ah Chee play as a tall forward if required?
He can take Edwards position at CHF. :snidegrin
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Can Ah Chee play as a tall forward if required?
No but he can jump over them....
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Aus-Under-181277-Pt1.jpg)
....and Rafael Nadal as well....
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.
We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.
If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.
Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.
If Oliver and Burton/Curnow are gone then im all for addressing our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed. If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......
where did you get that specific info? I saw an interview where they said it was just below the knee but I am getting senile so I will gladly stand corrected. Plus I thought a patients detailed medical information was confidential. Pretty sure the quaks are going to know pretty quickly if that knee is stuffed in a medical. Ahh nvm, sheeeeyat, that was bad.....http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/north-adelaide-forward-ryan-burtons-horrific-leg-injury-makes-him-one-of-the-drafts-biggest-question-marks/news-story/d4f16c1557009efed34168a416288568?from=herald%20sun_rss
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Can Ah Chee play as a tall forward if required?
No but he can jump over them....
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Aus-Under-181277-Pt1.jpg)
....and Rafael Nadal as well....
Ill take some of that lol
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Take ah chee, dunkley wouldnt get a kick walking through the Bart Cummings stable :lol
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don't think they were thinking bout Dunkley at 12, definately later down the draft order.
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.
We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.
If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.
Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.
If Oliver and Burton/Curnow are gone then im all for addressing our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed. If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......
where did you get that specific info? I saw an interview where they said it was just below the knee but I am getting senile so I will gladly stand corrected. Plus I thought a patients detailed medical information was confidential. Pretty sure the quaks are going to know pretty quickly if that knee is stuffed in a medical. Ahh nvm, sheeeeyat, that was bad.....http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/north-adelaide-forward-ryan-burtons-horrific-leg-injury-makes-him-one-of-the-drafts-biggest-question-marks/news-story/d4f16c1557009efed34168a416288568?from=herald%20sun_rss
My knowledge of his injury comes from what is available on the internet. He described the injury as a hyperextension injury that caused his tibia to fracture. The most common fracture is through the tibial plateau. He also said he had some cartilage damage which can be explained by the mode of injury. So there has been no breach of confidentiality here hooter. :thumbsup
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yeah modded my post and linked article, has youth on his side. Must of hurt like stuff lol
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Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.
RICHMOND
Pick: 12
Ideal: Callum Ah Chee
Otherwise: Daniel Rioli
The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.
Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.
So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.
That man could be Callum Ah Chee.
With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.
“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.
We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.
If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.
Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.
If Oliver and Burton/Curnow are gone then im all for addressing our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed. If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......
Had ligament damage too
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North Adelaide forward Ryan Burton’s horrific leg injury makes him one of the draft’s biggest question marks
Andrew Capel
Adelaide Advertiser
November 8, 2015 2:52pm
FOR 15 minutes all eyes were on Ryan Burton.
As the exciting North Adelaide forward took his turn on the medical table at the AFL draft combine doctors and physiotherapists from all 18 clubs scrutinised him like no other member of this year’s draft class.
“Every club was around me looking at the X-rays, playing with my leg and pushing and prodding me,’’ Burton said of his centre-of-attention moment.
“There were doctors, physios and scouts from all the clubs and they were testing me, asking questions and taking notes.
“I felt like a piece of meat and I was pretty nervous about it because a lot of people saw it as my biggest test of the week.
“Hopefully the doctors came away thinking my leg was as good as I do.’’
Burton’s rebuilt left leg is one of the biggest mysteries surrounding this year’s draft crop.
No other player at last month’s combine — where Australia’s best talent was put on display at Melbourne’s Etihad Stadium for the AFL clubs — spent more than five minutes having their bodies, in particular previous injuries, examined.
But the 191cm Burton is a unique case.
Before the high-leaping 18-year-old landed freakishly from a marking contest while playing for Sacred Heart against Victoria’s Assumption College on August 24 last year he had been inked as a likely top-five and possible number one draft selection this year.
But his leg and knee were so badly mangled — the kneecap had been dislocated, the tibia shattered and there was ligament and cartilage damage — that there were early fears that he might not be able to run again, let alone play football.
The surgeon who operated on Burton, former Crows rover Matthew Liptak, said he had sustained injuries seen more often in motorcycle accidents than on a football field.
“When I did the injury I immediately thought that my (AFL) dreams might have been shattered then and there,’’ said Burton, who had 10 screws and a plate inserted into his shredded leg to hold it together.
Now, nearly 15 months after thinking his draft chances were “gone’’, Burton is confident he will find an AFL home at the November 24 draft in Adelaide.
Still sporting a 20cm scar which runs down the outside of his knee as a stark reminder of his horrific injury, Burton missed the entire 2015 season but managed to take part in all the physical testing at the combine apart from the beep test, which he avoided due to the rapid stopping and turning on the hard floor.
“I felt I showed that my knee is absolutely fine,’’ said Burton, who made his league debut for the Roosters at age 17 and put his name in lights with a standout five-goal, 10-mark display in SA’s opening under-18 game against WA last year.
“I’ve been training pretty well flat out for the past three to four months and have had no setbacks at all.
“My training over the past few months has actually been better than it was prior to the injury and from what I can understand the clubs are pretty happy with what they’ve seen.’’
Burton, the son of dual North premiership player Craig Burton, spent his year on the sidelines stacking on 10kg of muscle to now hit the scales at an impressive 90kg.
His top-five hopes are gone but he is almost certain to be among the first 20 players selected.
The Crows will look at him closely with their first pick at number nine.
Adelaide last year took a punt which paid dividends on key defender Jake Lever, who slipped from a potential top-five pick to number 14 after missing his final under-age year following a knee reconstruction.
“Fourteen months ago I was sitting in a wheelchair so it’s been a long, tough road and it will be a nervous couple of weeks now waiting for the draft,’’ Burton said.
“But after such a tough year to hear my name called out would be an extra special moment for me.’’
http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/north-adelaide-forward-ryan-burtons-horrific-leg-injury-makes-him-one-of-the-drafts-biggest-question-marks/story-fnelctok-1227600649080
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Hmm. That article did not endear me to him. Sounds like a huge talent but we didn't get a good look in his final junior year aside from the injury. If he's still available at pick 12 I'd say there's a reason.
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Can he play as a small inside mid if required?
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Is he big enough to play as a small sized big bodied big defender
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I reckon we will use him as a tall in an under outside skinny flanker
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Petey is right. Whoever it is will have to play half back flank so they learn how to defend. ::)
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Hmm. That article did not endear me to him. Sounds like a huge talent but we didn't get a good look in his final junior year aside from the injury. If he's still available at pick 12 I'd say there's a reason.
Sounds suspiciously like some Adelaide dis-information to push him down the order. They have done this before.
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Petey is right. Whoever it is will have to play half back flank so they learn how to defend. ::)
:lol
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The Herald-Sun doesn't have us linked to Darcy Tucker even though he spent a week training with Richmond and loved it at Punt Rd.
... but a week spent training with Richmond as part of the AFL’s academy program also set Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin apart from the rest.
“It was unreal,” Tucker says of his week at Punt Road last Christmas.
“It was an eye opener. I looked at that and thought ‘this is where I want to be in a year’. I took a lot out of it.
“Trent Cotchin was one I really gravitated towards. From the day I came in, he came up to me and introduced himself and talked to me daily.
“He was one person I got a lot from and who I aspire to be like. It’s obvious why he’s Richmond’s captain.”
PREDICTED DRAFT RANGE: 10-25
IN THE MIX: Adelaide (13), St Kilda (14), North Melbourne (17), Carlton (19), Western Bulldogs (20/21)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-draft-2015-darcy-tucker-sets-bar-high-on-football-leadership-aspirations/news-story/9b28c5e4c0b68aa700b56fe7d1a32eda
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Going places: Rocket man Callum Ah Chee out to prove his hanger is no fluke
Clubs know Ah Chee is already good at a lot of things. He's a classy kick, can mark well above his head, and he's smart around goal. He has pace, too: he's a loping type of runner, but has completed the 20-metre sprint in 2.88 seconds.
He has shown those traits as a 182cm forward, but as a kid he used to play in the ruck because of his big leap. The 17-year-old sees his development in his draft season coming in the midfield.
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Recruiters like the point of difference Ah Chee brings to this year's draft. The group overall might be short on pace and class relative to previous years, but he has both.
"He's a Rolls Royce," one club scout says. "He's so smooth across the ground and is one of those players where everything slows down when he's involved. He'd have a lot of suitors pretty high in the draft, maybe in the top three."
A recruiter from another club says Ah Chee's humble personality is appealing. "He's a really intelligent, engaging kid who speaks articulately," he says.
"He's getting the message now about his footy, too, and I don't think until the tour he had really had too much brutal feedback. But he's smart and he understood it. He's from pretty good stock with his brothers, who are all high achievers."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/going-places-rocket-man-callum-ah-chee-out-to-prove-his-hanger-is-no-fluke
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Clayton Oliver's profile article on the AFL website today:
Oliver's barnstorming second half of the season has seen him push into first-round contention. He is being considered as a top-10 pick and won't last too much longer should he not be taken there.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Oliver.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/15-days-to-the-draft-meet-morrish-medallist-and-elite-user-clayton-oliver
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But hes a ranga
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But hes a ranga
A ranga who looks good in yellow & black ;D.
(http://sheppadviser.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SPORT-Clayton-Oliver-1-e1438129209329.jpg)
http://www.sheppadviser.com.au/oliver-drafted-for-tigers-training/
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Oliver.jpg)
.... :snidegrin
But hes a ranga
A ranga who looks good
:snidegrin
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Oliver.jpg)
.... :snidegrin
But hes a ranga
A ranga who looks good
:snidegrin
In the Richmond gear he was wearing.
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Oliver.jpg)
.... :snidegrin
But hes a ranga
A ranga who looks good
:snidegrin
In the Richmond gear he was wearing.
funny looking feller :clapping
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don't gaf what he looks like long as he plays well.
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He looks fat .....Conca mark II?
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Wouldn't care if his hair was green,big bodied mid's who can create the play are worth their weight in gold.
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Can he play as a tall KPD?
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Whatever he is, he's stuffen ugly.
If he plays like he looks LMAO
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Ah Chee is my first choice. He is silk and exactly what we are missing right now. We will select a very good player as there will be a few to select from. Looking forward to who we unwrap in 2 weeks :cheers
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don't gaf what he looks like long as he plays well.
it is as if he ate cameron ling
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Ah Chee is my first choice. He is silk and exactly what we are missing right now. We will select a very good player as there will be a few to select from. Looking forward to who we unwrap in 2 weeks :cheers
Exactly what we are missing is a big bodied mid who won't wilt in finals.
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don't gaf what he looks like long as he plays well.
it is as if he ate cameron ling
lol he does seem to be channeling the Ling
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Ah Chee is my first choice. He is silk and exactly what we are missing right now. We will select a very good player as there will be a few to select from. Looking forward to who we unwrap in 2 weeks :cheers
Exactly what we are missing is a big bodied mid who won't wilt in finals.
We already have him on the list. Stick Vlastuin in the guts next year and draft in some silk, win win.
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Unfortunately oliver will not be available .
And Mathewson isn't good enough
So there is no quality inside mid available
Looks like melira will be off the board as well
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Ok thanks for repeating but never heard of the 2 players mentioned after Oliver
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If we take Ah Chee is the prick likely to stay at RFC or want a trade to return to WA due to homesickness/personal reasons?
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If we take Ah Chee is the prick likely to stay at RFC or want a trade to return to WA due to homesickness/personal reasons?
From all reports Ah Chee has great character.
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@Moby8hot - Will Tigers grab another mid for first pick? Were keen to keep hold of rnd pick!
@AFL_CalTwomey - oliver would've been perfect but not sure he is still there at 12. I'd say another mid if the right one is available
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
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Unfortunately oliver will not be available .
And Mathewson isn't good enough
So there is no quality inside mid available
Looks like melira will be off the board as well
So in other words blaisee, we will pick Ah Chee.
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Id be happy with Archie
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Whatever he is, he's stuffen ugly.
If he plays like he looks LMAO
I'm with you on this one big fella. If we are talking about players who play like they look we need more in the mould of Alex Rance
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@Moby8hot - Will Tigers grab another mid for first pick? Were keen to keep hold of rnd pick!
@AFL_CalTwomey - oliver would've been perfect but not sure he is still there at 12. I'd say another mid if the right one is available
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
Cal has no idea what we are doing.
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Part 2 of Ah Chee's 'going places' story:
Scouts aren't sure what to make of his carnival form, and where he now sits in the pecking order.
VIDEO of Ah Chee's U18 Carnival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceusGHMUG8
"We know he can play; there's no an issue with that," one recruiter said.
"But it was a disappointing period for him. For me he still is a first-rounder, but he might have drifted out a little bit."
Ah Chee (right) at the NAB AFL Draft Combine with fellow prospects Darcy Parish (l) and Harrison Himmelberg. Picture: AFL Media
Another recruiter acknowledged Ah Chee's dip, but said clubs would be looking further down the line.
"He's still a young kid – he hasn't turned 18 yet," he said.
"We've got to remember they (juniors) have their ups and downs, and we're looking for AFL traits that will stand up at the next level.
"Cal has plenty of those, and if he plays some good footy at senior level in the WAFL in the next month or two, people will push him back up."
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Recruiters were pleased with what Ah Chee was able to show at senior level with South Fremantle, but they still had questions to ask. He met with six clubs on the back end of the season, and then had another 10 interviews during the combine.
He feels like some have judged his season a little harshly. "Some are very confrontational in interviews which is a challenge. But when criticism is positive and constructive, it is a lot better," he says.
At the combine he enjoyed his chats with St Kilda Adelaide, Carlton and Greater Western Sydney. He likes the idea of going to the Crows because it would mean he is in the same city as his brother Brendon, but Ah Chee's bright smile would light up no matter who calls his name on draft night.
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"He's a really nice kid," one recruiter said. "This year probably taught him he needs to be more demanding on himself. That will come in time."
Ah Chee still looks a likely first-round pick, despite his up and down year, and some clubs rank him as one of the most talented prospects available.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-10/going-places-wheres-the-running-where-are-the-goals
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Whatever he is, he's stuffen ugly.
If he plays like he looks LMAO
Ox - the bloke who loves his beer cold, his TV loud and his rfc players good looking. :thumbsup
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Meet the clearance king Rhys Mathieson
Mathieson has plenty of runs on the board, but could fit in anywhere from pick 12-25. He has done enough to be a first-round pick but clubs will rank him differently depending on whether they need a player of his type.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Mathieson.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-11/13-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-clearance-king-rhys-mathieson
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are they all going to look stupid this year ?
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LOL
bit better info on Mathieson though, Might not be a bad choice either.
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Brett Anderson doesn't see us now going for Burton.
@BrentyMann - Tiges options at pick 12 (15) look to be Oliver, Ah Chee, Mathieson, Burton and Gresham, your ranking?
@BrettAndersonIF - Oliver won't be there.
@BrettAndersonIF - Doubt they take Burton either.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Brett Anderson doesn't see us now going for Burton.
@BrentyMann - Tiges options at pick 12 (15) look to be Oliver, Ah Chee, Mathieson, Burton and Gresham, your ranking?
@BrettAndersonIF - Oliver won't be there.
@BrettAndersonIF - Doubt they take Burton either.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Asked to rank 5 players - just mentions the two blokes who he doesn't think we'll get....quality journalism...
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Brett Anderson doesn't see us now going for Burton.
@BrentyMann - Tiges options at pick 12 (15) look to be Oliver, Ah Chee, Mathieson, Burton and Gresham, your ranking?
@BrettAndersonIF - Oliver won't be there.
@BrettAndersonIF - Doubt they take Burton either.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Asked to rank 5 players - just mentions the two blokes who he doesn't think we'll get....quality journalism...
another yeah nah journo to add to the heap
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Bit like Stalin. Ask him what he's wearing and he'll just tell you how crap Grigg and Chaplin are
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The Herald-Sun has us in the mix for Harley Balic ...
HARLEY BALIC
AGE: 18
HEIGHT: 187cm
WEIGHT: 80kg
CLUB: Sandringham Dragons
POSITION: Half-forward, midfield
SUPERCOACH AVG: 104 (TAC Cup)
PLAYS LIKE: Scott Pendlebury
PREDICTED DRAFT RANGE: 10-20
IN THE MIX: Carlton (11), Richmond (12), St Kilda (14)
Read more: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-draft-2015-harley-balic-made-the-right-call-picking-footy-as-he-prepares-to-be-drafted/news-story/2c1d29a0a9a0bde9f3649e30879ab705
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From a Pies fan on BF's draft board ...
Not sure if it's been mentioned in here but Rhys Mathieson to Richmond is very solid from what I've heard.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-10#post-41948701
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Book it in. Another 'ready made player' who no one on this forum likes. Like clockwork
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Wouldn't mind Mabior Chol with our pick 54
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Bit like Stalin. Ask him what he's wearing and he'll just tell you how crap Grigg and Chaplin are
Yeah, his "how crap are Chaplin and Grigg?!" tee-shirt.
It's his fave.
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From a Pies fan on BF's draft board ...
Not sure if it's been mentioned in here but Rhys Mathieson to Richmond is very solid from what I've heard.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-10#post-41948701
:facepalm
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From a Pies fan on BF's draft board ...
Not sure if it's been mentioned in here but Rhys Mathieson to Richmond is very solid from what I've heard.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-10#post-41948701
:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
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From a Pies fan on BF's draft board ...
Not sure if it's been mentioned in here but Rhys Mathieson to Richmond is very solid from what I've heard.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-10#post-41948701
:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm
Conversely, the Herald-Sun tonight/tomorrow doesn't have us in the mix for Mathieson even though they have him going between picks 10-25.
RHYS MATHIESON
AGE: 18
HEIGHT: 186cm
WEIGHT: 82kg
CLUB: Geelong Falcons
POSITION: Inside midfielder
SUPERCOACH AVG: 122 (TAC Cup)
PLAYS LIKE: Ben Cunnington/Matt Priddis
PREDICTED DRAFT RANGE: 10-25
IN THE MIX: Carlton (11/19), St Kilda (14), Hawthorn (15/18), Essendon (24/25)
Read moreat : http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-rhys-mathiesons-footy-talents-are-no-joke/news-story/cb50bb49a9b89218a94cd1788a746aa2
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Brett Anderson reckons we have a few others ahead of Mathieson at pick 12 ...
pablo escabar - Apparently richmond will pick matho at their first pick any word on that ?
@BrettAndersonIF - Fits their profile of players Dimma likes but I think he'd have a few ahead of him in the queue at pick 12.
pablo escabar - Who do you think theyll take?
@BrettAndersonIF - Ah Chee a chance or someone who falls out of top 10.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
The draft journos have no idea yet who Essendon are taking at 4 & 5 and so that's stuffing them up as far as knowing what happens after that.
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The draftmachine is up on AFL.com.au. So check out the vids their which source more games than youtube one. Think you'll find that Mathieson isnt too bad.
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I have a feeling they will take Josh Dunkley for some reason?
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
This is the sort of player we should be looking at but won't.
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
This is the sort of player we should be looking at but won't.
after reading up and looking at more footage, he has come in and become my choice also.
would set up our defence perfectly.. can actually replace chaplin now if need be...
Rance Collins Grimes sets up our tall defenders for the future with elton and maybe astbury in reserve
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
This is the sort of player we should be looking at but won't.
after reading up and looking at more footage, he has come in and become my choice also.
would set up our defence perfectly.. can actually replace chaplin now if need be...
Rance Collins Grimes sets up our tall defenders for the future with elton and maybe astbury in reserve
and he looks to have the correct amount of chromosomes
you have sold me :clapping
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Wouldn't have a problem taking Collins while Truck is coaching the backline.Don't think they have the plums to take him though.
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Wouldn't have a problem taking Collins while have Truck coaching the backline.Don't think they have the plums to take him though.
rutten
rance
grimes
collins
:clapping
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
Yes please! Take this kid! Said it bloody weeks ago. The bloke is just living in the shadow of Jacon Weitering but has been achieving plenty! We desperately need somebody to take Chaplin's spot. He is on the decline and has at best 1 year of reasonable footy left in him. If a kid like Collins can take a KPF alongside Rance then it frees up Chaplin to play the loose man/3rd up role which is ideally his best position, especially with him slowing down.
Rucks and KPP's please.
19. Kieran Collins ...... Key Defender (194cm, 100kg, Dandenong Stingrays, Vic Country)
How about this kid? Made the U18 AA team as a KPD, big size already. Anybody seen him play? Would probably be available by the time we get our pick.
Otherwise anybody got a clue who we're keen on?
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So are we confirming this is the kid we all want?
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So are we confirming this is the kid we all want?
Yeah I think three people pretty much speaks for everyone. Put him down as the official OER nominee!
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So are we confirming this is the kid we all want?
Well for me I'm hoping that either Townsend and/or Moore come through and solid midfielders, and Yarran of HBF frees up Vlastuin to play midfield, which then allows guys like Deledio, Cotchin and Martin to play more time in the F50 thus reducing our need for a small forward (although I still want one badly).
Chaplin is a major weakness IMO, and given his age this will only become an even bigger problem in 1-2 years. Need to address it ASAP if Astbury/Elton aren't going to cut it.
Alternatively Yarran as a small forward could be a good idea, reducing the need to draft a bloke like Ah Chee and allowing us to pick up Collins.
Otherwise if we had kept pick 19 instead of trading it for Yarran we could have given ourselves a chance of drafting both AC and Collins...
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So are we confirming this is the kid we all want?
Yeah I think three people pretty much speaks for everyone. Put him down as the official OER nominee!
and my axe
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Private testing for potential top draft picks
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 13, 2015 10:30 AM
Clubs will be invited by the League to send a doctor and physio to the screening, where Weideman and fellow forward Ryan Burton will garner significant interest.
Burton has not played since last August after a severe leg break and knee injury, but tested at last month's combine and continues to step up his training.
Clubs are considering him with first-round selections given his talent as a marking half-forward, but must weigh that up against this long stint on the sidelines.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-13/private-testing-for-top-draft-picks
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Callum Twomey has Mathieson at our pick (12 becomes 15 when including academies) but he has Oliver, Burton, Ah Chee and Dunkley as the 4 Richmond are interested in.
2015 draft: Final phantom form guide update
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 13, 2015
11. Clayton Oliver
Essendon likes him, and might take him at No.4 or 5. Melbourne (pick 7) and Carlton (pick 8 or 11) are also possible destinations. Richmond will be very interested if Oliver is available at 12.
16. Ryan Burton
Adelaide has been linked to Burton at pick 13, as has Richmond at 12. But Burton might end up somewhere a bit later to a club that has multiple picks. Each club medico will have a different view on his injury.
19. Callum Ah Chee
Ah Chee is a top-10 smokey, but if not there, Richmond has been strongly linked at pick 12. If he gets past the Tigers, the Suns at 16 would be favourites to snap him up or the Bulldogs at 20.
26. Josh Dunkley
Adelaide and Richmond have shown interest, but their first-round picks might be too early. Dunkley has until next week to confirm if he'll nominate as a father-son pick to the Sydney Swans.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-13/2015-draft-final-phantom-form-guide-update
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I could live with any of those 3 mentioned. No to Dunkley that early. Also don't think we'll go for Collins (although he looks like a good one) because it seems we have faith in Chaplin to go a little longer while we develop Elton who I personally don't see making it as a defender. Honestly we should all probably prepare for Mathieson if he isn't picked up before we get the chance
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Warming to Collins - but we won't do it even though it's arguably our biggest need. Otherwise we should get someone like Glass-McCasker with our second pick or even Hartley with our third....would also rookie Adcock and/or the other Collins from the VFL....
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
This is the sort of player we should be looking at but won't.
after reading up and looking at more footage, he has come in and become my choice also.
would set up our defence perfectly.. can actually replace chaplin now if need be...
Rance Collins Grimes sets up our tall defenders for the future with elton and maybe astbury in reserve
and he looks to have the correct amount of chromosomes
you have sold me :clapping
He is big solid fast and looks the goods, definately not for RFC, we want someone skinny, no skills and injury prone
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Dude looks 24 the way he's developed
Anyone mention he's a tigers supporter :shh
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So are we confirming this is the kid we all want?
Yeah I think three people pretty much speaks for everyone. Put him down as the official OER nominee!
You are forgetting that if an entire interwebs forum agrees on something then it will just happen.
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If we really want a player all we need to is get on twitter, frame it as a "social justice" issue, accuse the AFL and the club of some sort of "ism" or "phobia", come up with a self-righteous but snappy little hashtag and get some smug hipster slacktivists to pose with placards looking very concerned and earnest....
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#GetCollins #Stopmidfielderprivilege #Defenderphobia #Nomorearcsism
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#MyNameIsDimmer-BlowMe4aGame
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#ChaplinGrigg #GriggChaplin
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For those who prefer we pick up a key defender, the AFL website has Kieran Collins first going at pick 12 (up to pick 25).
Meet the attacking key defender with elite hands Kieran Collins
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Collins.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-12/12-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-attacking-key-defender-with-elite-hands-kieran-collins
This is the sort of player we should be looking at but won't.
What drugs you on we dont need talls ask anyone.
I agree They arent smart enough to recognise the need
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The Carlton recruiting team were in Adelaide today to visit the Burton household.
We're [Carlton] very keen on him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-12#post-41966295
Seems the Blues may grab Burton at 8 or 11.
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The Carlton recruiting team were in Adelaide today to visit the Burton household.
We're [Carlton] very keen on him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-whispers-rumours-scuttlebut.1117002/page-12#post-41966295
Seems the Blues may grab Burton at 8 or 11.
Poor kid
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With 4 picks in the top 20, they can afford to take a least one punt.
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They haven't had much luck keeping them for a while anyway
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@PaulMariager - would MUCH rather Rioli over Ah Chee at Richmond pick 12. Ah Chee looks like a Oakley-Nicholls clone. Thoughts? #gotiges
@AFL_CalTwomey - don't agree with that. I'd take cal well before
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@sjd_31 - What's recruiters knock on Mathieson? 2x all Aus, Sheehan Medal winner, can go forward? Should be top 10 with that resume?
@AFL_CalTwomey - his running is the main one. i agree with you - he hasn't done anything wrong over three years now
@sjd_31 - His Pace or endurance?
@AFL_CalTwomey - endurance
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@sjd_31 - What's recruiters knock on Mathieson? 2x all Aus, Sheehan Medal winner, can go forward? Should be top 10 with that resume?
@AFL_CalTwomey - his running is the main one. i agree with you - he hasn't done anything wrong over three years now
@sjd_31 - His Pace or endurance?
@AFL_CalTwomey - endurance
Less rotations this is a bigger worry than usual
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One of Oliver, Collins or Ah Chee or FOAD Francis...
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:lol
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(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2015+AFL+Draft+Combine+jE4iqY0C5jYl.jpg)
#mini-Rance
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Emma Quayle's Top 30.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/not-a-mock-draft-the-top-30-kids-in-this-years-afl-draft-20151113-gkythc.html
It's not a mock draft but, out of interest, she has Harley Balic at #12 of the non-academy kids.
Hopper
1. Weitering
Mills
2. Schache
Kennedy
Hipwood
3. Francis
4. Weideman
5. Milera
6. Oliver
7. Parish
8. Curnow
9. H.McKay
10. Ah Chee
11. Burton
12. Balic
13. Collins
14. B.McKay
15. Bonner
16. Mathieson
Keays
17. Rioli
18. Gresham
19. Hibberd
20. Dunkley
21. Tucker
22. Cole
23. Clarke
Himmelberg
24. Partington
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He'll be well gone before our first pick but Weideman is a Tigers supporter.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/sam-weideman-reflects-on-draft-expectation-famous-surname-ankle-injury/story-e6frf3e3-1227405227863
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If Oliver, Ah Chee and Burton are all gone before our pick, which is quite possible, I hope RFC has the balls to pull the trigger on Collins.
Same height as Rance, already heavier (albeit not as mature), CLEARLY a need given Chaplin's age/performance and Astbury's injury issues.
Rance - Collins - Chaplin
Houli - Grimes - Yarran/Vlastuin
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Good size key backs are a hell of a lot harder to find than mids so I definitely have no issue with taking a defender of his size.
Having a team mate the ilk of Rance as well as our line coach Rutten,he couldn't dream of having a better learning environment.
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Rance - Collins - Deledio
C.Ellis - Grimes - Yarran/Vlastuin
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Rance - Collins - Deledio
C.Ellis - Grimes - Yarran/Vlastuin
as versatile as lids is, i think the days of playing him in the backline full time is over...
he has shown he is much better value to us as a half forward.
castagna would go alright back there if he can build his defensive game to go with his run
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Rance - Collins - Deledio
C.Ellis - Grimes - Yarran/Vlastuin
as versatile as lids is, i think the days of playing him in the backline full time is over...
he has shown he is much better value to us as a half forward.
castagna would go alright back there if he can build his defensive game to go with his run
Lids is also too short to play KPD at 188/90, and Grimes at 193/88 is too small in stature.
Need a third tall, hence why I suggest Chaplin as 3rd KPD/loose man/3rd up. Astbury to replace him if necessary.
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and troy is too rubbish to be anything other than an oxygen thief
you are comparing a donkey to a rolls Royce
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and troy is too rubbish to be anything other than an oxygen thief
you are comparing a donkey to a rolls Royce
Maybe so, but there are horses for courses. Lids could play HBF, but not KPD.
You could play Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Riewoldt and Rance ALL in the back six if you wanted to, but just because they're good players doesn't mean they're suited to those positions.
Lids is wasted in the D50 and with his achilles issues I don't want him playing there.
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i'd be happy with Collins, he & Rance would be a good duo over the next few yrs. is a Tiger supporter too (from his draft vid) so no issue's with him leaving either
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Would love Weideman to drop out of the top 10 and land on our lap :pray Talk of Burton going inside the top 10 could land us the unexpected. Could we be so lucky?
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Wouldn't mind us picking the big fella, we need some more tall talent but given what Gale and Rchardson have said (we feel we're well set with KP talent) I can't see that happening
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With our second pick come on down Alex Morgan. His work in traffic is as good as Shane Edwards....elite! Good speed, great kick and has time in space with ball in hand. Look him up.
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and troy is too rubbish to be anything other than an oxygen thief
you are comparing a donkey to a rolls Royce
Maybe so, but there are horses for courses. Lids could play HBF, but not KPD.
You could play Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Riewoldt and Rance ALL in the back six if you wanted to, but just because they're good players doesn't mean they're suited to those positions.
Lids is wasted in the D50 and with his achilles issues I don't want him playing there.
for context; we are currently playing BACHELOR on resting rucks / monster key forwards
:whistle
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Any interest here in Ryan Clarke? I've seen his name occasionally mentioned in passing in relation to us if all of our other choices are already gone by our pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-15/9-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-hardworking-ball-magnet-ryan-clarke
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@AFL_CalTwomey - Fair to say the phantom draft this year is a tricky one. Four clubs holding 9 of first 13 picks means combinations must be a consideration.
@Jackosmithayy - How i see it
1 Weitering
2 Shache
3 Parish
4 Curnow
5 Oliver
6 Milera
7 Weideman
Close 2 what u would do? Any changes?
@AFL_CalTwomey - all about the right names. Order roughly looks ok but bit to play out yet.
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
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@AFL_CalTwomey - all about the right names. Order roughly looks ok but bit to play out yet.
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey/with_replies
(http://www.krusecontrolinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/3-Crucial-Play-Cover-All-Bases-Social-Media.jpg)
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Herald-Sun says Ah Chee could be our man (Champion Data has him ranked at #24).
We also like Dunkley (ranked #30).
AFL draft 2015: Champion Data ranks the top 30 players
Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
November 16, 2015
The AFL’s official number cruncher believes Jacob Hopper, Callum Mills and Josh Schache hold greater potential than key defender Weitering,
Carlton is set to crown Weitering the No. 1 pick next week but the Harry Taylor-like backman is listed at No. 4 on Champion Data’s 2015 Draft Power Rankings.
The stats gurus have declared GWS academy star Hopper the standout in this year’s class, comparing the inside midfielder to superstar Patrick Dangerfield.
Mills will join Sydney as an academy pick while the Brisbane Lions appear certain to draft Schache at pick 2.
Champion had Jack Lonie at No. 17 and Caleb Daniel at 16 last year — 24 and 30 picks ahead of where their names were called on draft night. Daniel played in an AFL final while Lonie lined up in 17 games for the Saints.
Previously, they identified Robbie Gray (pick 55) and Luke Parker (pick 40) as stars of the future before watching them slip down the order.
Champion said Weitering produced intercept possession and intercept marking numbers in the TAC Cup unheard of at AFL level, but he failed to rate elite in most areas relevant for key defenders playing for Vic Country.
Weitering averaged nine intercept possessions and four intercept marks. West Coast’s Jeremy McGovern led the AFL this year with eight possessions and 3.5 marks.
A recent Champion Data case study showed star AFL spearheads franked their junior form with Tom Hawkins, Taylor Walker, Jack Darling and Jack Riewoldt all averaging 100 SuperCoach points and 14 disposals before they were drafted.
Schache joins that group — and pips Weitering in Champion’s rankings — after averaging 157 SuperCoach points and 16 disposals for Vic Country this year.
He also averaged seven marks and kicked more goals (24) than any player has at the national carnival.
Hopper averaged 16 contested possessions this year — one more than Dangerfield in his final Crows season — gaining 557m per game, rated elite for a midfielder and similar to the Cats recruit.
Hopper can also impact the scoreboard, averaging one goal and nine score involvements.
Mills averaged a ridiculous 175 SuperCoach points at under-16 level in 2013. Last year he averaged 21 disposals, five tackles and five clearances as a bottom-age player and showed his ball-winning ability at senior level in the NEAFL.
Mills averaged 30 disposals, 12 contested possessions, four clearances, four tackles and 127 SuperCoach points in his six matches but injuries kept him to just three NEAFL appearances this year.
CHAMPION DATA DRAFT POWER RANKINGS
If Champion Data was picking from the schoolyard, this is how next Tuesday’s national draft would look.
1. Jacob Hopper (186cm, 82kg midfielder) North Ballarat Rebels
No. 1 player at championships for contested footy, clearances and third for metres gained. Think Patrick Dangerfield.
SAM LANDSBERGER SAYS: Strong onballer will join GWS (as an academy selection) where he will swiftly replace Adam Treloar in the best 22.
2. Callum Mills (188cm, 80kg midfielder) North Shore (Sydney academy)
Averaged 30 disposals, 12 contested possessions, five inside-50s and four clearances in the NEAFL in 2014 as a bottom-age gem.
SAM SAYS: A year after stealing Isaac Heeney the Swans will pay a fair price for academy gun Mills, with Melbourne set to bid pick No.3.
3. Josh Schache (199cm, 100kg key forward) Murray Bushrangers
Haul of 24 goals at the championships is the greatest ever. Wins the ball in the air and on the ground.
SAM SAYS: Lock him in as the No. 2 pick to Brisbane Lions, relieving their full-forward woes. Deadly set-shot.
4. Jacob Weitering (195cm, 93kg key defender) Dandenong Stingrays
Averaged a massive nine intercept possessions and four intercept marks in the TAC Cup — numbers unheard of at AFL level.
SAM SAYS: Harry Taylor-like defender set to join Carlton as the No. 1 pick. Huge shock he’s No. 4 here.
5. Darcy Parish (181cm, 74kg midfielder) Geelong Falcons
Rated elite for metres gained and above average for contested and uncontested possessions.
SAM SAYS: Inside-outside midfield jet likely to join Melbourne or Essendon as a top-five pick.
6. Aaron Francis (191cm, 92kg utility) West Adelaide
Averaged almost five intercept marks per game for South Australia — ranked No. 1 — and appears suited to defence.
SAM SAYS: Questions on his running but shades of Luke Hodge and should go top 10, perhaps to Carlton or Adelaide.
7. Ben Keays (185cm, 83kg midfielder) Redlands (Brisbane academy)
Ball magnet who hits the scoreboard. Ranked No. 2 for disposals at the championships with pinpoint kicking.
SAM SAYS: Lions fan who should command a first-round bid but will join the Gabba as an academy pick. Simon Black style.
8. Ryan Burton (191cm, 88kg key forward) North Adelaide
If he didn’t miss 2015 he could have been a top-three pick. Averaged three goals and 105 SuperCoach points as a bottom-age player for South Australia in 2014.
SAM SAYS: Wants to evolve into a Nat Fyfe-like midfielder but how far will that horrific knee injury push him down the order?
9. Matthew Kennedy (187cm, 88kg midfielder) Collingullie (GWS academy)
On TAC Cup numbers he’s an elite midfielder who hits the scoreboard, kicking more than one goal per game.
SAM SAYS: Another academy ripper certain to join the Giants. Some clubs rate him above Hopper and Mills.
10. Eric Hipwood (202cm, 84kg swingman) Aspley (Brisbane academy)
The No. 1 ranked key defender at the championships, leading disposals and metres gained.
SAM SAYS: Gangly left-footer who will join the Lions as an academy player. Likely to be bid on before Keays. Kicked four goals in one quarter for Queensland.
11. Charlie Curnow (191cm, 95kg key forward/midfield) Geelong Falcons
Rated elite for contested marks in the TAC Cup and kicked more than two goals per game.
SAM SAYS: If the Dees don’t pick the brother of Ed at No. 3, Essendon should at 4 or 5. Can he develop into a midfielder?
12. Rhys Mathieson (186cm, 82kg midfield) Geelong Falcons
The best inside midfielder, winning an elite 10 contested possessions and five clearances for Vic Country — ranked No. 1 in Division 1.
SAM SAYS: Extractor who loves to get physical but needs to build his tank. Could slip out of first round.
13. Jade Gresham (178cm, 77kg midfielder) Northern Knights
Attacking midfielder rated elite for disposals, metres gained, clearances, goals and score involvements.
SAM SAYS: Quick inside midfielder, a little bit like Luke Shuey, who should go 10-20.
14. Sam Weideman (196cm, 94kg key forward) Eastern Ranges
Small TAC Cup sample showed he can win the ball in the air and at ground level, averaging the second-most groundball gets inside 50.
SAM SAYS: Imposing goalkicker should still go top 10 despite ankle surgery ending his season in May. Grandson of Collingwood legend Murray Weideman.
15. Kieran Lovell (174cm, 80kg midfielder) Kingston Tigers (Tasmania)
The No. 1 ranked player of the championships, leading disposals, metres gained and uncontested possessions.
SAM SAYS: Lovell is quick, unbelievably agile and can run all day but his height will toss him down the order.
16. Mitch Hibberd (191cm, 85kg halfback) Clarence
Rated elite for disposals, uncontested possessions, metres gained and inside-50s playing for Tasmania.
SAM SAYS: Injuries wrecked 2014 but surged up charts this year and a strong mark overhead.
17. Ryan Clarke (185cm, 84kg midfielder) Eastern Ranges
Exploded in the TAC Cup, averaging 30 disposals, 12 contested possessions, five clearances and a goal.
SAM SAYS: Big-game player whose sheer running power is his special trait. Kangaroos (pick 17) like him.
18. Clayton Oliver (187cm, 86kg midfielder)
Averaged 14 contested possessions, six clearances, six tackles and a goal in the TAC Cup.
SAM SAYS: The bolter. Powerful inside midfielder overlooked for Vic Country but Dons, Dees and Blues eyeing him with top-10 picks.
19. Riley Bonner (191cm, 85kg half-back)
Rebounding defender with similar numbers to Crow Brodie Smith. Gained 564m per game for South Australia.
SAM SAYS: Penetrating kick on both sides, can play on most sizes and would appeal to the Hawks.
20. Harley Balic (187cm, 80kg half-forward)
Consistent season without starring. Averaged more than 20 disposals for Vic Metro and Sandringham but little scoreboard impact.
SAM SAYS: Basketball background with Scott Pendlebury traits who could be in St Kilda’s sights.
21. Wayne Milera (185cm, 75kg half-forward)
Best footy was at senior SANFL level, rating above average for goals and score involvements.
SAM SAYS: Oozes talent, clever in attack and the Bombers could pull the trigger at No. 4 or 5.
22. Ben Crocker (185cm, 84kg half-forward) Oakleigh Chargers
The No. 1 ranked TAC Cup mid-forward, rating elite for disposals, contested possessions, inside 50s and goals.
SAM SAYS: Clean mark who looked OK in two VFL games this year. Looks a second-rounder.
23. Luke Partington (182cm, 75kg midfielder) Norwood
Rated elite for disposals, uncontested possessions, metres gained and score involvements for South Australia.
SAM SAYS: Immaculate character with a nice kick and clean hands. A second-round pick.
24. Callum Ah Chee (182cm, 71kg half-forward) South Fremantle
One of only three forwards to rate above average for groundball gets and contested marks at the championships.
SAM SAYS: High-flyer who will thrill. Could be Richmond’s man at No. 12 and unlikely to get past Suns at 16.
25 Darcy Tucker (184cm, 80kg half-back)
Rated above average for intercept possessions and metres gained and looks suited to defence.
SAM SAYS: Once rated a top-five pick but the left-footer couldn’t transition into the midfield. Crows a chance at No. 13.
26. Daniel Rioli (180cm, 69kg forward) North Ballarat Rebels
Rated elite for marks and groundball gets inside 50 — a feat achieved by just six AFL forwards last season. Pressure a strength.
SAM SAYS: Cyril’s nephew sizzled in the Grand Final curtain-raiser and at draft camp. Hawks and Dons considering.
27. Bailey Rice (184cm, 84kg halfback) Dandenong Stingrays
An attacking defender who rated elite for disposals, intercept possessions and intercept marks in the TAC Cup.
SAM SAYS: Tough as a $2 steak and set to join the Saints as a father-son, picking them instead of Carlton.
28. Brayden Fiorini (187cm, 76kg midfielder) Northern Knights
Dominated at TAC Cup level averaging 32 disposals, 21 uncontested possessions and six score involvements.
SAM SAYS: Booming left-footer with high kicking efficiency who could sneak into the first round.
29. Kieran Collins (194cm, 100kg key defender) Dandenong Stingrays
Excels when isolated one-on-one and didn’t lose a single contest at the championships.
SAM SAYS: Twin towers with Weitering in defence all year and could follow him to the Blues at pick 11.
30. Josh Dunkley (189cm, 86kg halfback) Gippsland Power
Inside work his strength, rating elite in the TAC Cup for clearances, contested possessions and tackles.
SAM SAYS: Brilliant young leader set to reject Swans where he is father-son eligible. Blues, Dogs, Tigers and Crows like him.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-champion-data-ranks-the-top-30-players/news-story/0884c35b09c25b05265986d918367e98
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Have the sinking feeling we will select Dunkley with our first pick.
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Sounds like something Hackson would do....
If we're going to pay that kind of "overs" for anybody with our first pick I'd rather it be someone like Ben Crocker....
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Anybody but Crocker. Have a lot of knowledge about this kid and DO NOT want him at any price. Went to school with my sons.
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Care to elaborate?
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Let's just say he is not of the standard of people we wish to recruit.
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Apparently, we're interested in Crocker for our VFL team.
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'Going places' article on Harley Balic. ...
He was interviewed by our recruiters ...
Richmond's scouts were specific with their criticism, highlighting how Balic had let his opponent run off him and kick a goal in the game against Werribee.
"Where was your work rate?" they asked him. "Didn't you run a 15.3 beep test a couple of months ago?" He found it tough to give a reason for his lapse.
"Feedback like that is good though. You're not going to walk in and have them tell you how good you are and that you're a No. 1 draft pick. It would be lovely, but it doesn't really work like that," Balic says.
"I'm a laidback guy. I don't feel pressured or get nervous talking to the recruiters."
Read more: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-16/going-places-talented-junior-harley-balic-faces-up-to-his-biggest-decision
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Apparently, we're interested in Crocker for our VFL team.
So we think he's not going to be drafted at all?
EDIT: I see now you meant his older brother Sam who was delisted by St. Kilda three years ago.
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If he is anything like his old man Barry, we won't touch him
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If he is anything like his old man Barry, we won't touch him
Wasn't that Bazza McKenzie? ;D
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If he is anything like his old man Barry, we won't touch him
That's Not very neighbourly
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Apparently, we're interested in Crocker for our VFL team.
So we think he's not going to be drafted at all?
EDIT: I see now you meant his older brother Sam who was delisted by St. Kilda three years ago.
My fault. I just saw Beams' post mention Crocker and thought Sam rather than Ben. Having said that, it wouldn't be the first time we drafted a younger brother to our AFL list and recruited his older brother for our VFL team (Reece and Luke Conca).
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Callum Twomey's mock draft ...
AUDIO: http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft
He has us taking Callum Ah Chee.
1. Weitering (Carl)
2. Schache (Bris)
3. Mills (Syd - academy)
4. Parish (Melb)
5. Francis (Ess)
6. Hopper (GWS - academy)
7. Kennedy (GWS - academy)
8. Weideman (Ess)
9. Oliver (GC)
10. Curnow (Melb)
11. Milera (Carl)
12. Harry McKay (Adel)
13. Burton (Carl)
14. Ah Chee (Rich)
15. Hipwood (Bris - academy)
16. Keays (Bris - academy)
17. Balic (Adel)
18. Hibberd (St K)
19. Collins (Haw)
20. Tucker (GC)
21. Ben McKay (North)
22. Bonner (Haw)
Richmond need speed (got some with Yarran). Fantastic inside mids and like their KPPs. Need to compliment these with some outside speed and brilliance.
Ah Chee is a specialist clever forward. Gets in and out contests and great around goals. He didn't have the greatest of years to be honest. Had him in the top 5 at the start of the year. Played great footy for the national academy against VFL competition. Played senior footy in the WAFL. A steal at pick 14. Could be anything. Smart player and a good kick. Eventually will move up the ground.
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Sam Landsberger @SamLandsberger
"Tigers (pick 12) have done a bit of work on Gresham "
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/with_replies
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Boomer’s tips lift draft hopeful Jade Gresham
Herald-Sun
18 November 2015
EVERY year, the smallest players in their respective draft crops are instantly compared with North Melbourne champion Brent Harvey.
But for 177cm midfielder Jade Gresham, lessons learned from ‘Boomer’ haven’t just been picked up from watching his highlights tapes.
Rather, regular phone conversations with the 409-game Roos great provided Gresham with arguably the biggest influence on his year.
Such is Harvey’s longevity in the game, he played under 18s football with Gresham’s father, Jamie, for Northern Knights. Together, the pair helped the Knights to the 1995 premiership, where Harvey was named best on ground in the grand final.
The two have stayed in touch, enabling Harvey to become the ideal role model for Gresham in the midst of a testing season.
“They’re pretty good mates,” Gresham says of Harvey and his father.
“If I’m getting tagged or if I’m having trouble with crumbing and little stuff like that, I’ll ask him for some tips. Sometimes we just have general chats about what AFL clubs are like.
“I’ve rang him a few times and he’s been a good influence on my year.”
So far, Gresham has done all he can to follow in Harvey’s footsteps.
Having been named as the Knights’ first indigenous captain at the beginning of the year, Gresham took out the club’s best and fairest award and finished a close second behind Clayton Oliver in the Morrish Medal.
Regarded as one of the most well-rounded midfield prospects in this year’s draft, Gresham is just as good as extracting the ball from stoppages as he is on the outside.
He was among the best in the clean hands test and the kicking test at the draft combine and was one of four players to record a perfect score in the goalkicking test.
He is also a quick learner.
Having set out to improve his endurance and goalkicking ability this season, he finished the year with a 14.1 beep and having booted 21 goals from 18 games across all competitions.
“The Knights wanted to see me kick a few more goals,” he says.
“I thought I showed I could kick goals, so it’s been good. It was mainly rotations, but a few games I played forward all game. I didn’t mind it, but I’d rather be in the midfield.”
Gresham averaged 29 disposals in the TAC Cup and 23 disposals in the championships, going at five tackles and five clearances per game in each competition.
Despite his size, he’s never looked a player that would shirk a contest and has announced himself as a lead-by-example captain at the Knights.
Getting selected by an AFL club later this month will now be the icing on the cake in what has been a rather satisfying year for the young gun.
“I’ve always wanted to play in the AFL, ever since I was little,” Gresham says. “When I was out the front as a kid having a kick with dad, I’d always dreamt about it.
“To get on an AFL list, I’d be over the moon. I not only want to do it for myself, but also my family and friends. They would be rapt for me.”
JADE GRESHAM
AGE: 18
HEIGHT: 177cm
WEIGHT: 74kg
CLUB: Northern Knights
POSITION: Midfielder
SUPERCOACH AVG: 146 (TAC Cup)
PLAYS LIKE: Luke Shuey
PREDICTED DRAFT RANGE: 10-25
IN THE MIX: St Kilda (14), North Melbourne (17), Carlton (19), Western Bulldogs (20-21), Essendon (24-25)
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d020be29e825652465f56cc97f141994?width=650)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-brent-harvey-is-jade-greshams-role-model-and-has-been-the-biggest-influence-on-his-career/news-story/c38ba4a3562db7b173c7f70d24187c6e
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
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If he is anything like his old man Barry, we won't touch him
That's Not very neighbourly
I reckon his old man would laugh at this but I will confess his name is probably not Barry Crocker
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
Not that skinny but he is short but highly skilled and racks up possessions. Is a true mid that can go forward rather than a true specialist small fwd.
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
a sml/mid half fwd that doesn't hit the scoreboard, we may as well play Morris there......
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
a sml/mid half fwd that doesn't hit the scoreboard, we may as well play Morris there......
Rubbish. 21 goals from 18 games playing midfield are not Morris like numbers.
I can't believe the stuff that people are saying without having a clue about players.......
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Can he play as a mid to tall utility player if required?
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Can he play as a mid to tall utility player if required?
No. He can play a small small and small medium type but not a small tall.
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
a sml/mid half fwd that doesn't hit the scoreboard, we may as well play Morris there......
Rubbish. 21 goals from 18 games playing midfield are not Morris like numbers.
I can't believe the stuff that people are saying without having a clue about players.......
A tick over a goal a game would be a bare minumum for mid/fwd at schoolboy level....the main knock on him however is that his possessions aren't really damaging.....we already have B.Ellis for that role...
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Can he play as a mid to tall utility player if required?
No. He can play a small small and small medium type but not a small tall.
So are you saying that he can play as tall as Batchelor, who plays incredibly tall if you ask some...oh that is until he plays on Waite, then he is apparently a small defender who cant play tall. So what are you saying?
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Can he play as a mid to tall utility player if required?
No. He can play a small small and small medium type but not a small tall.
So are you saying that he can play as tall as Batchelor, who plays incredibly tall if you ask some...oh that is until he plays on Waite, then he is apparently a small defender who cant play tall. So what are you saying?
Obviously a small tall can't play Waite let alone a small small or small medium. So I hope that makes it clear.
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Well he would fill our desperate need for a skinny, shortarsed mid/forward who doesn't kick many goals.
a sml/mid half fwd that doesn't hit the scoreboard, we may as well play Morris there......
Rubbish. 21 goals from 18 games playing midfield are not Morris like numbers.
I can't believe the stuff that people are saying without having a clue about players.......
my comment reply was to a comment about a med/half fwd that doesn't hit the scoreboard & clearly his #'s are much better than Morris's
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Q. Emma, which player(s) do you think might be drafted by Richmond? And who do you think will be the 'smoky' of the draft?
Emma Quayle - I think guys like Oliver, Ah Chee, Burton, even maybe Rioli are around the mark for the Tigers.
Q. any latest info on the Tigers?
Emma Quayle - hearing mostly Oliver (highly unlikely to be there), Ah Chee, Burton, Rioli but would be interested to see if Milera got to them
Lachlan Smith - Hearing we are firming in for Collins.
https://www.facebook.com/agerealfooty/
Sam Weideman had his fitness testing session today. Results with clubs now. The key forward ran 3.21 over 20 metres & 12.4 in the beep test.
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey
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@TexasPinkSock - who do you think richmond will take, any new rumours.
@BrettAndersonIF - Ah Chee is good fit. Gresham too. Someone may fall into their laps though.
@TexasPinkSock - such as?
@BrettAndersonIF - depends on what dees and dons do.
@TexasPinkSock - they have early picks though. Cant see how it would make much if a difference. Also is collins a chance?
@BrettAndersonIF - there is a flow on effect for each pick. Collins I would think others ahead.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Richmond is keen and Dunkley would love to play at Punt Rd after lining up in six VFL games for the club this season.
But the Tigers have told Dunkley that is unlikely, given pick 12 is considered too early and Dunkley will be gone by their next pick, No. 51.
“That was a kick in the guts,” Dunkley said last night after he was medically examined by most clubs and asked to complete sprinting, agility and jumping tests.
Carlton likes the meticulous leader and Gippsland Power captain at pick 19 — the selection the Blues received from Richmond in the Chris Yarran trade — but only if their preferred players are gone.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/josh-dunkley-must-decide-whether-to-nominate-as-father-son-for-sydney/story-fnb7bats-1227614317771
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Dunkley also registered a strong agility test with 8.31 seconds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-18/weideman-mills-dunkley-and-rice-put-through-their-paces-ahead-of-afl-draft
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The footy journos are openly admitting they still don't know who Melbourne are taking at pick 3, let alone any other pick.
“At the moment I’m still trying to get my head around pick three, it is an absolute lottery – lock in pick one and two but from there I got no idea,” said Anderson on SEN radio.
“For a long time we’ve known that Jacob Weitering and Josh Schache are going to be number one and two.
“But, at pick three a lot of people have thought Darcy Parish but for a long time I’ve thought it’s Charlie Curnow based on my analysis.
“There’s a strong chance it could be Sam Weideman or Clayton Oliver.
“So, what Melbourne does will dictate what Essendon does with their two picks.”
Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/11-15/dees-at-pick-three-is-a-lottery-anderson#FkwQemiblCGGY6Z6.99
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From an Essendon fan on BF:
Apparently you guys have interviewed Kieran Collins the most of the clubs in the 10 - 15 range. Fully expect either Carlton (pick 11) or you guys (pick 12) to pounce.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-draft-thread.1087757/page-96#post-42024556
From the Hawthorn board:
It's not entirely relevant to us, but if Clayton Oliver is gone before Richmond's first pick (12) then Ryan Clarke is 100% going to Richmond.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2015-afl-draft-thread-needs-wants-prospect-discussion-the-whole-nine-yards-all-in-here.1115706/page-31#post-42006448
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who is ryan Clarke?
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somebody expect to go at 40 we will swoop on :shh
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who is ryan Clarke?
Meet the hard-working ball magnet Ryan Clarke
AFL.com.au
Callum Twomey
November 15, 2015
THE TAC Cup finals series often throws up some surprises, and this year it was the progression of the Eastern Ranges and Oakleigh Chargers into the Grand Final from outside the top four.
The Chargers went on to claim the premiership – their second in a row – but it shouldn't dent the effort of the Ranges, who were almost singlehandedly dragged into the flag decider by midfielder Ryan Clarke.
Clarke ended a consistent season with a prolific finals series, averaging 25 disposals across the first three weeks to help Eastern to three finals wins.
It capped what had been strong season by Clarke, who averaged 19 disposals in five games for Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and also played at school level for Melbourne Grammar in Victoria's APS competition.
Why They Should Pick Him
Clarke finds the ball. It's hard to teach players how to pick up possessions like Clarke has managed to do throughout 2015, and he averaged 31 disposals in 11 games for the Ranges. That puts him among the top echelon of ball-winners in the draft.
What elevated Clarke is his ability to combine the inside grunt work with the outside run. His mix of disposals – about 12 won in contested situations and the rest uncontested – highlights his desire to get moving as soon as the ball has left the pack. He averaged nearly six clearances and more than 10 handball receives a game, a strong indicator of a player's work rate.
Clarke also likes to stream down the field and be dangerous close to goal. He booted 16 goals for the Ranges, which is an excellent tally for a near-permanent midfielder. He makes the most of his shots and enjoys rewarding his run with some action near goal.
The Query
There isn't much that stands out about Clarke that will make clubs too worried. He's a high-production player who seems to perform most times he takes to the field.
He's quick enough (he ran a three-second 20m sprint at the combine) and solid enough by foot to make teams pay. Does he have the outstanding trick that will separate him at the next level? Perhaps not, but his work ethic and competitiveness covers for that.
Plays Like
There's a little bit of Jack Steven about Clarke, with his relentless run and drive through the midfield and ability to hit the scoreboard when pressing forward. Clarke is probably a touch more polished consistently than the Saints midfielder.
Draft Range
Clarke seems likely to fall somewhere in the second round on draft night. He should fit into the 15-35 range.
Bottom Line
Clubs can pick Clarke with confidence that he'll take his chance seriously. There's no frills with Clarke, he just gets to business and might be the hardest working midfielder in the pool. He's a solid on-ball prospect and one who should come into AFL contention next year.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Clarke.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-15/9-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-hardworking-ball-magnet-ryan-clarke
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TM, here's also some vision of Clarke ...
Ryan Clarke - 2015 AFL Draft Prospect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx03paGIH5o
Ryan Clarke (2015 Under 18 Championships): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHuZQ12vv8o
2015 NAB AFL Draft Trumps - Ryan Clarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2fWhVe3ERo
Ryan Clarke v WA (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1z9Z1WGhc
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somebody expect to go at 40 we will swoop on :shh
He's a lot better than that. Not on the keyboard warriors radar but is a certain 1st Rd selection with recruiters. Not been a more dominate finish to a TAC season since Heppell! Maybe FJ is thinking he won't make the same mistake twice
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somebody expect to go at 40 we will swoop on :shh
He's a lot better than that. Not on the keyboard warriors radar but is a certain 1st Rd selection with recruiters. Not been a more dominate finish to a TAC season since Heppell! Maybe FJ is thinking he won't make the same mistake twice
:thumbsup
I guess on the one hand we took Conca at 6 which surprised everyone but then took Vlastuin at 9, whom most journos didn't rate that highly.
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Weideman will drop into our lap :cheers
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Top draft prospect Charlie Curnow held by police after refusing breath test.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-20/top-draft-prospect-charlie-curnow-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test
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Meet the exciting and crafty forward Ryan Burton
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 20, 2015
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-20/draft-trumps-ryan-burton
AFTER Ryan Burton kicked five goals for South Australia early in last year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, he was tipped as a possible top-five draft selection in 2015.
His performance as a 17-year-old who wasn't eligible for the draft for another year-and-a-half said plenty about his talent. He was dominant in the air, kicked smoothly and precisely at goal, and carried a presence.
Unfortunately for Burton, the North Adelaide prospect has barely played since that game. He got struck down by a bad bout of glandular fever that ruled him out of the end of SA's carnival, and then returned to play school football.
It was in late August when Burton suffered the injury that has seen him be stuck on the sidelines since. Burton broke his leg in a marking contest and dislocated his kneecap. He required significant surgery, and although he was aiming to play in 2015, he wasn't able to make it out onto the field.
His long rehabilitation process makes him one of the draft's most intriguing prospects, because his talent and ability remains right among the best of the group. If not for the injury he might be in the conversation as a top-three pick.
Why They Should Pick Him
Scroll through tapes of Burton's footy before his injury and you'll see why he was touted as such an early selection before the setback. He's a straight-kicking medium forward who can jump, twist and turn and mark really strongly on the lead.
It's easy to see Burton's footy smarts come to the fore when he plays: he knows how to nudge an opponent out of a contest, how to kick a dribbling, snapping goal, and when the game needs someone to grab the moment, he's not averse to taking it.
His exposure at senior level for North Adelaide as a bottom-ager should stick in recruiters' minds, and some also think he could be able to become a midfielder at the next level. At the moment the 191cm and 88kg prospect is a half-forward, but he believes he will transition into a midfield role when he picks up his fitness.
Burton tested at the NAB AFL Draft Combine and did well given his circumstances, recording a 3.09-second 20-metre sprint and managing 25.69 seconds in the repeat sprint (better than about half the participants).
The Query
The concern for clubs on Burton is clear. He hasn't played since August last year, and still faces a little while longer building up his training before he will be ready to play a game again. Each club will have different views on the injury and the impact it will or won't have on his career, but Burton has already proved many wrong through his recovery.
Even without the broken leg link, Burton is a bit like Western Bulldogs forward Jake Stringer. Stringer suffered his serious injury before he was drafted and there were doubts he could get back to his best, but was an All Australian this season. Burton is a similar mid-sized forward who can jump, turn players inside out and kick crafty goals.
Draft range
Burton has been the hardest player for recruiters to place this year. They know his talent, but have to weigh it up against his time out of the game and how their doctors assessed his medical. Even still, he is a possible top-20 selection.
Bottom Line
A club might get a bargain with Burton if he gets through to a selection late in the first round or early in the second. If it all comes together for him, Burton could be one of the best players of this year's draft. He's confident and has some star factor.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Burton.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-20/4-days-to-the-draft-meet-the-exciting-and-crafty-forward-ryan-burton
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Top draft prospect Charlie Curnow held by police after refusing breath test.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-20/top-draft-prospect-charlie-curnow-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test
Some people will go to great lengths to avoid Melbourne, Carlton and Essendon and who could blame them
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Top draft prospect Charlie Curnow held by police after refusing breath test.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-20/top-draft-prospect-charlie-curnow-held-by-police-after-refusing-breath-test
Some people will go to great lengths to avoid Melbourne, Carlton and Essendon and who could blame them
Maybe Wells up to his old tricks spiked his drink to get the local prodigy through to them?
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Josh Dunkley is set to join the Sydney Swans after he nominated the club under the father-son rule on Friday.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-20/fatherson-prospect-josh-dunkley-nominates-swans
Sounds like we've told him we won't be picking him up at 12 and he won't last to our second pick.
Brett Anderson on SEN though has a theory that if a Victorian club bids for Dunkley then the Swans won't match it.
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Dunkley's a hack.
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From Callum Twomey's Q&A facebook chat this arvo .....
Q. Who will Tigers get with Pick 12?
A. Ah Chee has been raised a few times as a possibility here (that's if he's still available!). Otherwise maybe a midfielder. The Tigers do need a quality small forward and that's what Ah Chee will start his career as.
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Q. Any chance Ah Chee makes his way to Carlton at 19 to fill one of the small forward roles. Particully now that Menzel has left??
A. He'll be gone by Carlton's fourth pick. Richmond has been strongly linked.
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A. Burton is a good chance to be selected in the top-15 now - Carlton, Richmond, Hawthorn have all been strongly linked. Each club will have different views on his leg but he is confident it will be fine in time.
https://www.facebook.com/AFL/posts/10153297151131417
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Really starting to like the look of Oliver. Any chance he could slide to our pick?
And just watching a few other clips, if I were Carlton I'd be taking Schache before Wietering.
Anyone else?
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Really starting to like the look of Oliver. Any chance he could slide to our pick?
Sadly, more and more sounding like Oliver will be in red+black Tuesday night :P.
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Just back on Ah Chee.
Here's vision from the AIS vs Northern Blues game earlier this year which got junior footy watchers excited about him. Ah Chee had 20 disposals and kicked 2 goals.
https://vimeo.com/127122213
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Really starting to like the look of Oliver. Any chance he could slide to our pick?
Sadly, more and more sounding like Oliver will be in red+black Tuesday night :P.
Emma Quayle has Oliver being either a Dee or Don.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/which-players-will-help-shape-the-afl-draft-order-20151120-gl3u0y.html
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Just back on Ah Chee.
Here's vision from the AIS vs Northern Blues game earlier this year which got junior footy watchers excited about him. Ah Chee had 20 disposals and kicked 2 goals.
https://vimeo.com/127122213
Emma also links us to Ah Chee.
Ah Chee might - maybe - be available at 16 if he gets past Richmond, but could be gone
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubbyclub-guide-to-the-afl-draft-part-one-20151118-gl2eds.html
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Ah Chee will be our man, goes alright too :shh
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hope not
minirance :pray
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@TexasPinkSock - any chance millera slides to Richmond at 12
@BrettAndersonIF - No.
http://www.twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
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I know you can't fully judge a footballer from a highlights video and Ah Chee has admitted he didn't have a good U18 Champs (plus WA were a poor team) but from these U18 vids I would say:
Pros:
Good on a lead inside F50.
Excellent 1-on-1 contested mark for his size.
Good hands in close.
Fills a need of ours (i.e. small forward role).
Question marks:
Only seemed assured with possessions inside and around F50. Decision making with possessions up the field seemed slow/hesistant (from mark or free) or rushed (gaining the loose ball)?
Didn't see any (use of) elite speed or line breaking?
Didn't see any defensive side - i.e. chasing, tackling, defensive pressure?
It would interesting to see from video of WAFL games he's played if these 'question marks' are answered by having better and more seasoned footballers around him.
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Will be - Delighted with Oliver, very happy with Collins or Ah Chee, neither happy nor unhappy with Gresham, apprehensive with Burton, peeed off with Mathieson, Dunkley or Clarke(at first pick).
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Collins, Oliver, Ah Chee.
I hope next year's draft is good, otherwise I would have been happy to trade next year's picks to improve this year's and grab 2-3 of these guys. Need to get some improvement in the list quickly - one solid draftee per year won't keep us relevant long-term...
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Talk now Melbourne may even grab Oliver at 3. Poor kid if that happens.
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Hawks met Daniel Rioli in Ballarat on Friday. Imagine him next to uncle Cyril. Suns might just go Ah Chee and could Ryan Burton be a Tiger?
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
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He's a bit old to be tweeting about schoolies.....(http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/suspect.gif)
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Hawks met Daniel Rioli in Ballarat on Friday. Imagine him next to uncle Cyril. Suns might just go Ah Chee and could Ryan Burton be a Tiger?
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
Wish come true Burton a tiger.
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@ljonseym - so far Tigers have Ah Chee Gresham and Mathieson at their First pick out of the various mock drafts then i heard Burton?
@BrettAndersonIF - Ah Chee I think will be gone.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
So gone before our pick:
Oliver
Ah Chee
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IF Burton's knee is ok we have a steal. But it's a big IF.
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Is it his knee or a bad leg break?
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IF Burton's knee is ok we have a steal. But it's a big IF.
PPPFFFTTTT. He is either right or he isnt. There are no IFS. So far in quick time hes back playing footy and at the elite level.If his leg was stuffed hed be doing nothing.
Grt him to the club and show just a little patience.As you say steal of the draft at pick 15.
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Brett Anderson now agreeing with Callum Twomey that Ah Chee will be gone before our pick (off to the Suns).
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Is it his knee or a bad leg break?
Clean break just below the knee I think I read.
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Every time we are linked with someone they suddenly shoot up in the prospects and will be gone before our pick LOL
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Is it his knee or a bad leg break?
It was both. The fracture involved the top of the tibia which forms part of the knee joint. He had some cartilage damage (minor) and some ligament strain but his ACL and PCL remained intact. My worry is if the break disrupted the growth plate, there is a small chance that tibia will not grow any more and the other side may grow a little bit more leading to a difference in leg length.
And I thought he has not played any senior footy since the break so I'm not sure what claw is going on about.
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When you only have 1 real pick in the draft I don't think you can be too risky with it which is why I don't think Burton will be picked by is.
I am no expert but if you are choosing between Gresham, Ah Chee and Rioli you go with the one who can get the ball the most so Gresham for me.
I think Ah Chee is the one we want but will be gone.
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Ah Chee and Rioli are 'risky' are they not?
i dont know who the hell Gresham is
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Ah Chee and Rioli are 'risky' are they not?
i dont know who the hell Gresham is
All draftees are inherently risky but at least those 2 are currently fully fit and haven't had their leg ripped in half.
Gresham is Boomer Harvey reincarnated so they say.
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Ah Chee and Rioli are 'risky' are they not?
i dont know who the hell Gresham is
All draftees are inherently risky but at least those 2 are currently fully fit and haven't had their leg ripped in half.
Gresham is Boomer Harvey reincarnated so they say.
Ah Chee and Rioli are little, forward pocket types yes, no ?
if so thats extra risky
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Both Twomey and Anderson saying nothing is certain. The top order can still change as clubs are still meeting players.
@JohnFloris41 - Richmond should only look at 4 players for its 1st pick Balic Ah Chee Rioli and Grensham
@AFL_CalTwomey - they might well be the ones in the mix
https://twitter.com/AFL_CalTwomey
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Ah Chee and Rioli are 'risky' are they not?
i dont know who the hell Gresham is
All draftees are inherently risky but at least those 2 are currently fully fit and haven't had their leg ripped in half.
Gresham is Boomer Harvey reincarnated so they say.
Ah Chee and Rioli are little, forward pocket types yes, no ?
if so thats extra risky
Ah Chee is 182 cm, (taller than Miles, B.Ellis, Lambert - same height as Lloyd -and Wingard) Rioli 180 cm (3 cm taller than Cyril)....hardley midgets and still growing....
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Ah Chee and Rioli are 'risky' are they not?
i dont know who the hell Gresham is
All draftees are inherently risky but at least those 2 are currently fully fit and haven't had their leg ripped in half.
Gresham is Boomer Harvey reincarnated so they say.
Ah Chee and Rioli are little, forward pocket types yes, no ?
if so thats extra risky
Ah Chee is 182 cm, (taller than Miles, B.Ellis, Lambert - same height as Lloyd -and Wingard) Rioli 180 cm (3 cm taller than Cyril)....hardley midgets and still growing....
65 kgs :whistle
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....at 17 years of age...so what....
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At least he is under 200cm! :snidegrin
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....at 17 years of age...so what....
wouldnt worry me too much , a yarren and a rioli would tick a few boxes. its a shame Ah Chee sounds gone
i like collins, troy to the horse factory
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Yes Collins is my first choice, assuming Fat Ling/Whitnall Jr. will be gone...think we might just miss out though....and even if he's still there, our list managers are as clueless as trolljangles and think we're right for KPD's because we have Rance for four more years....
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Yeah like the only thing holding us back is another FB :lol , thankfully our recruiting gurus have a clue :shh
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BO who do you think we'll go for tomorrow?
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I reckon ah chee is the type we need , class small to med forward , he is the missing link to premiership glory. If he s gone then we ll add another inside mid to our bevy of talent in the middle.
Don't worry about rioli , my mail is he s not rated inside top 30
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Can someone tell me what's going on with this draft rubbish please?
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It hasn't started yet, tomoz night, don't worry though, fj will uncover another gem,,,,,,,,,,again :clapping
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thankfully our recruiting gurus have a clue :shh
So they're not at all like you then.....that's a relief.....
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I'm all over Weideman and fingers crossed he slides. Plays forward but looks everything like a gun CHB that will take over from Chapdud real quick. :pray he wants us and we want him :shh
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Seems Rioli to Richmond is gathering quite a bit of late momentum....Emma Quayle now on board....and she usually gets our first picks right...
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/who-will-your-club-pick-in-the-afl-draft-20151123-gl5zr3.html
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Seems Rioli to Richmond is gathering quite a bit of late momentum....Emma Quayle now on board....and she usually gets our first picks right...
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/who-will-your-club-pick-in-the-afl-draft-20151123-gl5zr3.html
Hope not, too small IMO
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Like every draft someone will slide to our pick. I just hope FJ and his crew don't have a pre draft decision that won't be altered on the fly.
I don't think much of Ah Chee from his highlights so I do hope he is gone by our pick as it will slide someone else our way. Hopefully there is a few surprise selections that will cause a few players to slide.
Oliver for me if he is available.
Yarran to play small forward too to fill that roll.
I wouldn't be upset either if we did roll the dice on Burton. If you don't take risks in life/footy you won't get anywhere IMO.
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Yeah like the only thing holding us back is another FB :lol , thankfully our recruiting gurus have a clue :shh
nahas agrees
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Callum Ah Chee in Adelaide to attend the draft apparently. Which usually means he's expected to go inside the top 10 and go up on stage.
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Nakia Cockatoo déjà vu
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....at 17 years of age...so what....
RYAN BURTON
90kg
CHARLIE CURNOW
95kg
everyone has an element of risk
a little, small fwd pocket type even more with a very high pick for mine
but you need to risk something to get something eh
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To keep it short There is hope that Curnow can become a mid as well as being a fwd. I have to ask having got as much as i can on this kid and its not a lot but earlier in the year i was with the main stream but i am now asking what makes anyone think he can be a mid at afl level. Fair dinkum i just have not seen it.
So what is left a what 191 cm 95kg fwd. I think this kid will be a slider.
If he and burton were there at 15 id take burton.
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Curnow will make it as a rotating forward/mid like Fyfe. He's already got the motor for it and he knows how to use his big body in contested situations. Give him a couple years like Fyfe and I reckon we'll be seeing somethin special.
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Looks like it's Rioli
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Tigers may beat Hawks to Cyril 2.0
HAWTHORN will look to draft another Rioli into its champion team — if Richmond doesn’t pounce first. The Hawks interviewed Daniel Rioli — who calls Cyril his uncle — in Ballarat on Friday before the clever forward’s graduation from St Patrick’s ...
Read more: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-daniel-rioli-says-it-would-be-special-to-play-with-cyril-rioli-at-hawthorn-but-richmond-might-spoil-party/news-story/3ddbdba267ac0e27638a71620247637f
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Sam Landsberger has also now changed the Herald-Sun phantom draft to say we're getting Daniel Rioli.
14. RICHMOND
Daniel Rioli (North Ballarat Rebels)
H: 180cm W: 69kg
Forward
Tiwi Islander small forward who Tigers love — and desperately need. Want Ah Chee if available.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-sam-landsberger-predicts-how-the-top-10-will-unfold/news-story/6bd08586731275f0441b2509b1fe062e
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Late mail from the AFL website still has Rioli going to us ....
PHANTOM DRAFT TOP 30
Pick 1: Carlton – Jacob Weitering
Pick 2: Brisbane Lions – Josh Schache
Pick 3: Sydney Swans (matching Melbourne's bid) – Callum Mills
Pick 4: Melbourne – Clayton Oliver
Pick 5: Essendon – Aaron Francis
Pick 6: Essendon – Darcy Parish
Pick 7: Gold Coast – Callum Ah Chee
Pick 8: Melbourne – Sam Weideman
Pick 9: Greater Western Sydney (match Carlton's bid) – Jacob Hopper
Pick 10: Carlton – Harry McKay
Pick 11: Greater Western Sydney (match Adelaide's bid) – Matthew Kennedy
Pick 12: Brisbane Lions (match Adelaide's bid) – Eric Hipwood
Pick 13: Adelaide – Wayne Milera
Pick 14: Carlton – Charlie Curnow
Pick 15: Richmond – Daniel Rioli
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/afl-draft-late-mail-intrigue-surrounds-charlie-curnow
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What time does it start?
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6.30 on Fox Footy
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Well I only have the net. What Brissy time?
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Well I only have the net. What Brissy time?
5.30
It's 6.30 AEDST
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Well I only have the net. What Brissy time?
5.30
It's 6.30 AEDST
Cheers.
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Rioli hopes to keep tradition going at Richmond or Hawthorn
GREY MORRIS
NT News
November 23, 2015 9:44AM
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AFL Draft prospect Daniel Rioli is tipped to join Richmond at the National AFL Draft.
DANIEL Rioli has visions of wearing a Richmond jumper on the Melbourne Cricket Ground in the manner his grandfather Maurice did three decades ago.
The 18-year-old Melville islander will find out his football fate on Tuesday when the 2015 AFL Draft swings into action at the Adelaide Convention Centre.
But while a Rioli to Richmond (pick 15) story would read like a fairytale, the Tigers could be beaten to the punch by clubs like Carlton (1, 10, 14), GWS, Essendon (5, 6) and GWS (9, 11).
Rioli has had regular conversations with all 18 AFL clubs, but admits Richmond and Hawthorn are his favourite destinations if the draft cards fall his way.
“Richmond would be great, especially when my grandfather Maurice was there all those years ago and was a great player for them,’’ Daniel said.
“Hawthorn, with my cousin Cyril there would be good as well, but to be honest, any other club wouldn’t worry me, because we’ve had Dean at Essendon and of course Maurice with the Tigers.
“So to have a Rioli at a different club to those three would be different and a big challenge for me personally.
“I’ve had a fair few clubs speaking to me during the pre-season and the combine as well, where they came and spoke to me again.
“I was pretty happy with my combine results and how I performed there after what I thought was a good season with the North Ballarat Rebels in the TAC Cup.’’
The 18-year-old combined endurance and speed bursts at the draft combine, grabbing the best time in the 30m repeat sprints that require players to run six of them with less than 10 seconds recovery time between runs.
The clubs rate the repeat sprints as important tests for measuring a player’s ability to perform second and third efforts while remaining in the contest.
Rioli’s 24.15 seconds in the repeat sprints and third in the 20m sprint gave notice his body was ready for the challenge of elite football.
Played as a mobile forward by the Rebels, Rioli enjoyed this year’s under-18 nationals where coach Andrew Hodges played him up the ground, through the midfield and the wing.
He flies to Adelaide this morning with his dad Bradley and mum Belinda from Melville Island for what he hopes will be the biggest day of his football life.
“I’m confident I guess, but I don’t want to worry about it too much,’’ he said. “I want to go there, hope for the best and enjoy the night with my family and the AFLNT people.
“I want to thank mum and dad and the staff at Tiwi College for getting me to where I am now.
“They gave me the opportunity to go down south to St Pat’s College in Ballarat and I’ll always be grateful for that.
“Whatever happens, making the move from the islands to Victoria was worth it. Hopefully that will be even bigger today.’’
http://www.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/rioli-hopes-to-keep-tradition-going-at-richmond-or-hawthorn/story-fnk2to87-1227620795560
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A great sign he wants to play for us :thumbsup.
Dimma will be ecstatic to have a Rioli as he was in love with Cyril and wished he could bring him over to us when he first got the RFC coaching gig back in 2010.
But while a Rioli to Richmond (pick 15) story would read like a fairytale, the Tigers could be beaten to the punch by clubs like Carlton (1, 10, 14), GWS, Essendon (5, 6) and GWS (9, 11).
He flies to Adelaide this morning with his dad Bradley and mum Belinda from Melville Island for what he hopes will be the biggest day of his football life.
Hope we're not going to be pipped. The other times the media have mentioned we've been keen on a certain player (Oliver and Ah Chee), they've suddenly jumped up the draft order.
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This whole sudden rush for Rioli to Richmond being played out in the media smacks of us getting played by other clubs.
Until this all happened Rioli was ranked, what, 20-30?
What has happened in the last week that he has come good?
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got me stuffed.
doesnt dimma have some notion that 1st rnd picks should be ready to play straight away? does rioli fit this bill?
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..or maybe we're playing other clubs.... :shh
Whatever...Rioli at 12 over the likes of Hospital Handball Mathieson & Brokeleg Burton still won't be as dumb as Conca at 6 over Heppell & Prestia....
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Hospital Handball Mathieson lol
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It hasn't started yet, tomoz night, don't worry though, fj will uncover another gem,,,,,,,,,,again :clapping
No doubt
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got me stuffed.
doesnt dimma have some notion that 1st rnd picks should be ready to play straight away? does rioli fit this bill?
Dimma has a man crush on Cyril so Daniel would probably get a guernsey round 1 even if injured.
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..or maybe we're playing other clubs.... :shh
Whatever...Rioli at 12 over the likes of Hospital Handball Mathieson & Brokeleg Burton still won't be as dumb as Conca at 6 over Heppell & Prestia....
Be careful what you wish for.
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Brett Anderson just said clubs are throwing out smoke bombs of info to try and get the player(s) they want to fall to their pick. He mentioned Richmond as one of them along with the clubs with multiple picks.
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I reckon ah chee is the type we need , class small to med forward , he is the missing link to premiership glory. If he s gone then we ll add another inside mid to our bevy of talent in the middle.
Don't worry about rioli , my mail is he s not rated inside top 30
Looks like it's Rioli then.
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I'm fully prepared for another vanilla midfielder who will be a good solid citizen for 200 games. Would prefer Rioli even though he would take time or a slider. Wouldn't even be miffed to take a punt on Burton and his leg. But I'm just not getting my hopes up when Franky boy reads it out only to be disappointed.
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....at 17 years of age...so what....
RYAN BURTON
90kg
CHARLIE CURNOW
95kg
everyone has an element of risk
a little, small fwd pocket type even more with a very high pick for mine
but you need to risk something to get something eh
That and, it smells a lot like a conca-like 'reach'
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S o is pick 12 a different draft, I'm confused.
Not as much into this as you guys?
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Maurice Rioli 1982,
Willie Rioli. 1990
Dean Rioli 2000
Cryil 2008
Daniel 2016 :pray
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Maurice didn't win, Willie & Dean didn't even play.
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the clubs all made the gf but :shh
perhaps the lucky rabbits foot that is rioli will inspire grigg and chaplin onto bigger and better things