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Title: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2015, 04:46:40 PM
We all know Moneyball's probably got at least one lined up - who should it be?

I'll kick things off....

Crowley  - there's probably an argument for the Subiaco Pincher, not a convicing one though IMO. Pass.

Siposs - medium forward (189/90) who can also play wing & defence, looked good in a few games but decidedly ordinary in others. Can play. He could pressure any of McKintosh to Batchelor and Lloyd for a spot. Would consider.

Spencer White - forward (196/86) - a real talent, even touted by some early on as "the next Buddy" (yeah not quite) but an cbf'd attitude apparently so pee poor that even a rebuilding St.Kilda, desperate for talls, don't think he's worth perservering with despite all his gifts and still young age.(though they could still rookie him I suppose) Kicked 4 on debut against us last year, did nothing in his next game and was never seen again in the seniors....hmmm....naturally gifted player with massive attitude problems who played his best against us.... didn't we just give away pick 19 for a bloke who matches that description?  Worth considering for a rookie spot for mine.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 22, 2015, 04:52:58 PM
Siposs
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Owl on October 22, 2015, 04:54:19 PM
Crowley????  WOAH!!  Hands like lobster claws , body of a doberman and a head like a smashed crab  :shh
Subiaco Pincher  :rollin
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2015, 06:14:32 PM
Adcock? Wouldn't mind targeting him for the VFL list at least. Hell he's probably better than Chaplin - unfortunately he's also 11 centimetres shorter.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 22, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
good player adcock
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Jonesracing82 on October 22, 2015, 08:13:50 PM
any rucks available?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 22, 2015, 08:16:05 PM
any rucks available?

Hampson :whistle
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 22, 2015, 08:18:00 PM
any rucks available?

could of had lburger or kreuzer for free  :lol
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2015, 08:35:47 PM
Maybe Jarrad Redden - from Port so probably already on Hartley's radar......reckon we should look at Darcy Cameron from Claremont....
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 22, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
Maybe Jarrad Redden - from Port so probably already on Hartley's radar......reckon we should look at Darcy Cameron from Claremont....
For me Redden as ruck back up, would love for us to snare Keeffe with our last nd pick knowing we wont have him for a season. I would  at the least rookie Spencer  White, sometimes when something is gone you realise what you have lost.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Chuck17 on October 22, 2015, 09:35:32 PM
Is Angus still available ?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Smokey on October 22, 2015, 10:02:06 PM
Nope.  Just signed with Perth for 3 years and is being promoted as their saviour.  Yep, they are perennial under-achievers like us.   :-\
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 22, 2015, 10:15:36 PM
Think we need to rookie a ruckman, Redden seems the perfect fit in that respect
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
I'd be stunned if we didn't at least get one more ruckman somewhere along the line this year....
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 22, 2015, 10:28:00 PM
Crowley????  WOAH!!  Hands like lobster claws , body of a doberman and a head like a smashed crab  :shh
Subiaco Pincher  :rollin
lol
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 22, 2015, 10:48:11 PM
Think we need to rookie a ruckman, Redden seems the perfect fit in that respect
I wouldn't take Redden.
I would rookie Darcy Cameron. Much more upside.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 22, 2015, 11:57:38 PM
we may not even take a delisted player. Atm we will take one rookie.
After all we only have picks 12, 52, 88, 106, 120, 124. Shallow draft will they even use pick 88 on a kid.
Outs so far. Foley (ret), Knights (ret), McDonough (del), Newman (ret), Petterd(ret). Arnot (del rookie).
Ins so far. Yarran, Townsend. it means atm only 12, 52, and 88 are in play.
If we promote Lambert or one of the rookies the picks on new blood becomes even less.
I have heard of teams doing little in the off season but this is taking it to a new low.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 23, 2015, 12:13:21 AM
We seriously NEED to get  a mature ruckman from somewhere.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 12:38:16 AM
We seriously NEED to get  a mature ruckman from somewhere.

if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

why would they now chase a less good one, now ??

i spose there is a possibility they would draft a state league ruckman. it seems unlikely - given the quality of rucks moving around the last two years and richmond lack of interest, 'faith in hampson' quotes 
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
We seriously NEED to get  a mature ruckman from somewhere.

if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

why would they now chase a less good one, now ??

i spose there is a possibility they would draft a state league ruckman. it seems unlikely - given the quality of rucks moving around the last two years and richmond lack of interest, 'faith in hampson' quotes
ummm, didnt they table an offer to cruizer?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 09:43:35 AM
how would i know?

it must have been a shyte offer seeing as hes not playing here
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
how would i know?

it must have been a shyte offer seeing as hes not playing here

How would you know?

LMFAO,

maybe due to this thread...
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22748.0

what they offered, who knows?

but it doesnt change the inaccuracy of
Quote
if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 23, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
It seems we also had a look at Lobbe.

I agree with Stalin's sentiment though. We really need a ruckman and there were a few handy ones up for grabs.

I'm hoping we have a state league player in mind.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 10:43:11 AM
i can only go by media reports which say we are were linked to kreuzer

fact is, obiously not strong enough as hes playing for carlton

you will have to ask the like of WP in regard to inside goss

how would i know?

it must have been a shyte offer seeing as hes not playing here

How would you know?

LMFAO,

maybe due to this thread...
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22748.0

what they offered, who knows?

but it doesnt change the inaccuracy of
Quote
if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

what is the logic

getting a lesser ruckman

while overlooking mummy, lburger, kreuzer all on freee or very cheap

i dont see it
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Owl on October 23, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
Kreuzer was never going to come cheap.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Kreuzer was never going to come cheap.

its all relative

whats hamspud on
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 23, 2015, 11:05:37 AM
Kreuzer was never going to come cheap.

its all relative

whats hamspud on
300K
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 11:32:55 AM
i can only go by media reports which say we are were linked to kreuzer

fact is, obiously not strong enough as hes playing for carlton

you will have to ask the like of WP in regard to inside goss

how would i know?

it must have been a shyte offer seeing as hes not playing here

How would you know?

LMFAO,

maybe due to this thread...
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=22748.0

what they offered, who knows?

but it doesnt change the inaccuracy of
Quote
if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

what is the logic

getting a lesser ruckman

while overlooking mummy, lburger, kreuzer all on freee or very cheap

i dont see it

comment you made was

Quote
if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

comment was wrong.

that is plain to see

Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Owl on October 23, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
I mean he was gonna cost us to get him into the club as well, pick wise they were going to want the earth.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
how is it wrong?

offering him unders, is not really chasing him is it?

if you pay peanuts u get monkeys
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
I mean he was gonna cost us to get him into the club as well, pick wise they were going to want the earth.

no, he was free as far as i understand (which could be wrong)

we pay no draft pick

just salary and get kreuzer

they afl make up a draft pick and give it to carlton, richmond lose no pick

lburger and kreuzer...

as opposed to now were we are still short of ruckman - and just looking for a lesser option

Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 12:23:06 PM
how is it wrong?

offering him unders, is not really chasing him is it?

if you pay peanuts u get monkeys

it is wrong because it is not true.

lmao @ the rubbish you will come up with in an attempt to cover up your previous load. it doesnt mask the stench, just adds to it
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 01:09:00 PM
how is it wrong?

offering him unders, is not really chasing him is it?

if you pay peanuts u get monkeys

it is wrong because it is not true.

lmao @ the rubbish you will come up with in an attempt to cover up your previous load. it doesnt mask the stench, just adds to it

The Tigers are not in the market for a ruckman and will back Ivan Maric and Shaun Hampson for another season.

“It’s probably something we’ve got to address over the next 12 to 18 months, but at this stage Ivan is obviously still our No.1 ruckman,” Tigers' boss Dan Richardson said.

“We brought Shaun in a couple of years ago to be that taller option. He’s had some injury and (issues with) durability, but he’s also showed signs here of improving. We need to back that in.”



“We have two needs that we have identified

— one a rebounding defender, which is hopefully (Carlton’s) Chris Yarran,

 and the other is an inside midfielder,” Tigers football boss Dan Richardson said on Friday.[/b]

“Ideally we would have liked to have got an elite mid like (Adam) Treloar, but that’s not going to happen.

 “You never say never, but the reality is we’ve been connected to everyone. Some of it’s true and some of it’s not. If we can bring those two players in we’ll be quite happy.”
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
yeah, AFTER, kruezer knocked back the offer presented to him.

It doesnt matter how much you twist and squirm, nor much gobbledook and irrelevant crap you spew forth, this was your comment;
Quote
if they were not going to chase a good one for free (zero draft picks)

Yet They offered Kruizer a contract, ie they chased a good one (ruckman) for free.

so therefore your comment is BS.

Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 23, 2015, 02:33:34 PM
who said they chased him and he knocked it back? is this one of those jacks facts?



Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 23, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
How about Ayce Cordy........could really challenge Hamspud.......for the title of worst player on the list.....


Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
who said they chased him and he knocked it back? is this one of those jacks facts?
maybe if you read the conversation from the start rather than jumping in at the end, you wouldn't ask questions that have already been answered.

now, back out side to play with the other children now sonny
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 23, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
dont believe everything you read your better than that.

Herald sun please. Wake up.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Yeahright on October 23, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Exactly Penelope. You're better off believing a faceless internet no body who spends most of their energy complaining about anything and everything the football club does. They are the ones worth your trust.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: wayne on October 23, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
spindleshanks has been delisted
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 07:13:52 PM
dont believe everything you read your better than that.

Herald sun please. Wake up.

LOL herald scum

where did you pull that from?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 23, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
 Port just delisted Moore. Blair set to pounce.  :shh
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 23, 2015, 07:58:09 PM
Port just delisted Moore. Blair set to pounce.  :shh
Whoa! :shh
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 23, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
It seems we also had a look at Lobbe.

I agree with Stalin's sentiment though. We really need a ruckman and there were a few handy ones up for grabs.

I'm hoping we have a state league player in mind.
His sentiments are spot on.I mean we all understood quite clearly the gist of what he was saying. Kruezer was a f/a hence he would not have cost a pick.
I think WP was right when he said Kruezer is not leaving Carlton for love or money.  He may have been a F/A in name but he was never really a F/a.

We needed to do one of two things in the trade period. Trade out players and attack the trade period heavily bringing in many needs. Or trade into early picks by trading players. 
We did neither the only logical conclusion that anyone can come to is they are mostly happy with the list its structure and its quality. 
Yet regardless of what happens this mob will be defended.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Andyy on October 23, 2015, 08:35:59 PM
Need to keep an eye on delisted rucks and KPPs.

Would be looking at one of either Redden or Cordy for rookie, purely in case Maric goes down...

I have little faith in Astbury, and less in Elton, but at least if Rance or Chaplin go down you know there are tall KPD's in the seconds who are playing defence to come in and have a shot without us playing blokes like Grimes/Batchelor on our opposition's 1st key forward (wait a minute...).
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 23, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
Need to keep an eye on delisted rucks and KPPs.

Would be looking at one of either Redden or Cordy for rookie, purely in case Maric goes down...

I have little faith in Astbury, and less in Elton, but at least if Rance or Chaplin go down you know there are tall KPD's in the seconds who are playing defence to come in and have a shot without us playing blokes like Grimes/Batchelor on our opposition's 1st key forward (wait a minute...).
Carlton delisted a kid called Cameron Giles.  Iliked him as a junior. Havent seen much of him at all since. I know hes had his fair share of injuries  anyone know how hes gone at Carlton when not injured.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Andyy on October 23, 2015, 09:14:01 PM
Need to keep an eye on delisted rucks and KPPs.

Would be looking at one of either Redden or Cordy for rookie, purely in case Maric goes down...

I have little faith in Astbury, and less in Elton, but at least if Rance or Chaplin go down you know there are tall KPD's in the seconds who are playing defence to come in and have a shot without us playing blokes like Grimes/Batchelor on our opposition's 1st key forward (wait a minute...).
Carlton delisted a kid called Cameron Giles.  Iliked him as a junior. Havent seen much of him at all since. I know hes had his fair share of injuries  anyone know how hes gone at Carlton when not injured.

Sounds like he was regularly beaten in the VFL throughout 2014 until he fractured his navicular. Sat out most out 2015 before returning for two games late in the VFL season. Got through the first, then was allegedly one of the best in the final game of the year before being delisted. Maybe a bit harsh?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
yeah, AFTER, kruezer knocked back the offer presented to him.


what ... ?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 23, 2015, 10:40:48 PM
you have a real problem with rational, logical reasoning, dont you?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 23, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
thatd be the richmond football club sonny  :whistle
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 23, 2015, 11:22:30 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/top-10-draft-pick-andrew-moore-cut-by-port-adelaide-next-stop-richmond/story-fnia6ojc-1227580226791?sv=16a7c3177a5fa0aa6c3af82ae7812cfb
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Yeahright on October 24, 2015, 02:52:14 AM
It seems we also had a look at Lobbe.

I agree with Stalin's sentiment though. We really need a ruckman and there were a few handy ones up for grabs.

I'm hoping we have a state league player in mind.
His sentiments are spot on.I mean we all understood quite clearly the gist of what he was saying. Kruezer was a f/a hence he would not have cost a pick.
I think WP was right when he said Kruezer is not leaving Carlton for love or money.  He may have been a F/A in name but he was never really a F/a.

We needed to do one of two things in the trade period. Trade out players and attack the trade period heavily bringing in many needs. Or trade into early picks by trading players. 
We did neither the only logical conclusion that anyone can come to is they are mostly happy with the list its structure and its quality. 
Yet regardless of what happens this mob will be defended.

I think it's a bit unfair to say they are completely happy with the list. They did go hard for a couple of players. It didn't work out (which is a totally different on it's own) but I'm not sure they rate the list quite as high as people seem to make out
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 24, 2015, 07:08:06 AM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/top-10-draft-pick-andrew-moore-cut-by-port-adelaide-next-stop-richmond/story-fnia6ojc-1227580226791?sv=16a7c3177a5fa0aa6c3af82ae7812cfb
Was a very very good junior. Played for Eastern Rangers and showed plenty. I'm not sure why he went off the rails with his football at Port. Probably worth a punt. Maybe if he took Dea's position on the list it would be a reasonable move. Could fill the Jackson/Tuck void with Townsend if he can recapture his form.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 29, 2015, 06:23:08 PM
Keiran Harper delisted.....worth a crack I reckon....


Danny Stanley just delisted by Gold Coast.....remember him playing well against us back in 2011 but that's about all...


Majak Daw also cut.....basically still a raw gimmicky hack but he did jump all over Maric in Round 23......of course there's the small matter of his pending trial for underage rape.....despite all that, apparently North still intend to rookie him again....

Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on October 29, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
yes

no

yes
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: tony_montana on October 29, 2015, 06:42:16 PM
we were keen on Harper a few yrs back..
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 29, 2015, 06:47:23 PM
has harper starved of opportunities because of a plethora of quality players of his type, or because he simply isnt good enough?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 29, 2015, 06:49:43 PM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 29, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
has harper starved of opportunities because of a plethora of quality players of his type, or because he simply isnt good enough?
Ankle dramas.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 29, 2015, 06:53:06 PM
like hampson?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: dwaino on October 29, 2015, 06:56:20 PM
Harper or Gorringe could be handy.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 29, 2015, 06:58:38 PM
like hampson?
I don't hate him.
 :whistle
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 29, 2015, 07:45:35 PM
Ruckman out of Gorringe, Cameron or Redden.......I still favour Cameron....massive upside....Gorringe is a headcase....and not in the good way that you want a ruckman to be.....been informed that Redden is cooked.....I'm not so sure though....still only 24.....wouldn't object if we got two of the above.....would be able to develop Soldo another year at a lower level with whatever big yank we're apparently looking to take a punt on...
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 29, 2015, 08:45:21 PM
Need to keep an eye on delisted rucks and KPPs.

Would be looking at one of either Redden or Cordy for rookie, purely in case Maric goes down...

I have little faith in Astbury, and less in Elton, but at least if Rance or Chaplin go down you know there are tall KPD's in the seconds who are playing defence to come in and have a shot without us playing blokes like Grimes/Batchelor on our opposition's 1st key forward (wait a minute...).
Carlton delisted a kid called Cameron Giles.  Iliked him as a junior. Havent seen much of him at all since. I know hes had his fair share of injuries  anyone know how hes gone at Carlton when not injured.

Sounds like he was regularly beaten in the VFL throughout 2014 until he fractured his navicular. Sat out most out 2015 before returning for two games late in the VFL season. Got through the first, then was allegedly one of the best in the final game of the year before being delisted. Maybe a bit harsh?
Sounds like it. of course kids are going to get beaten up against men in their first season even in the vfl. Missed the second yr thru injury then delisted.
Has to be something else attitude or work rate foot injury is a bad one. if not he would have to be worth looking hard at as a rookie at least.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 29, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
Ruckman out of Gorringe, Cameron or Redden.......I still favour Cameron....massive upside....Gorringe is a headcase....and not in the good way that you want a ruckman to be.....been informed that Redden is cooked.....I'm not so sure though....still only 24.....wouldn't object if we got two of the above.....would be able to develop Soldo another year at a lower level with whatever big yank we're apparently looking to take a punt on...

Who is this Cameron chap?

Gorringe was a high draft pick want he? What's his deal?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 30, 2015, 01:47:40 AM
Darcy Cameron from Claremont....

http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2013-draft-profile-darcy-cameron/


Gorringe went at pick 10 in 2010....talented smart ruckman but soft and by all reports an Akermanis-level flog without the work ethic to back it up.......
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 30, 2015, 09:41:33 AM
Darcy Cameron from Claremont....

http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2013-draft-profile-darcy-cameron/


Gorringe went at pick 10 in 2010....talented smart ruckman but soft and by all reports an Akermanis-level flog without the work ethic to back it up.......

Cheers for that.

Cameron definitely seems worth a punt.

I don't even like saying Gorringe's name so he can F right O.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 30, 2015, 05:44:05 PM
Ruckman out of Gorringe, Cameron or Redden.......I still favour Cameron....massive upside....Gorringe is a headcase....and not in the good way that you want a ruckman to be.....been informed that Redden is cooked.....I'm not so sure though....still only 24.....wouldn't object if we got two of the above.....would be able to develop Soldo another year at a lower level with whatever big yank we're apparently looking to take a punt on...

Who is this Cameron chap?

Gorringe was a high draft pick want he? What's his deal?
Darcy Cameron was a player i hoped we would take in the 2013 nd or as a rookie.
Since missing the draft he has played 21 senior games for Claremont in the Wafl. He spends a lot of time fwd when in the seniors but Claremont use Mark Seaby as their #1 ruckman.
When thrown in the ruck he competes well and for his size has very good agility. He definately is a ruckman first and formost who can rest fwd take a grab and kick a goal. I think people need to realise he turned 20 in july.To be playing ruck against seniors even at state league is an accomplishment at 18 19 or 20..
His reserves form in the ruck is outstanding as one would expect.

I think its a matter of time before a club at the least rookies him.As a development ruck on our list he would be perfect.He is not ready however to take over from Maric if he got hurt.
I think theres a good chance of him becoming a decent AFL ruckman. He has  now had two yrs of development playing senior footy, i dont see the point in waiting for him to have a stellar season only then to have every club hunting for him. Imo  Late picks and rookie picks  are there to take a bit of a punt and back in your judgement and intuition if you like..

I would be happy if we took this lad with our last nd pick or used a rookie pick. I would also be happy if we took Jarrad Redden depending on medical reports.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Penelope on October 30, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
ok serious question.

how many years do you think it will be before he is ready to compete with AFL ruckmen?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: torch on October 30, 2015, 08:29:17 PM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 30, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...
A shame really as he is a very good in & under type even though Scott used him for his outside pace.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 30, 2015, 11:20:05 PM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...
A shame really as he is a very good in & under type even though Scott used him for his outside pace.

Wot?
He's as outside as they come.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 31, 2015, 07:09:48 AM
Pies to rookie keefe. There goes claws idea which I thought was a great one BTW as he can play.

Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 31, 2015, 08:42:52 AM
ok serious question.

how many years do you think it will be before he is ready to compete with AFL ruckmen?

2-3 best case scenario.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 31, 2015, 09:01:36 AM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...
A shame really as he is a very good in & under type even though Scott used him for his outside pace.

Wot?
He's as outside as they come.
Did you watch any of his junior games at Eastern.Looked nuggety & hard at it when put on the ball at times.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: The Machine on October 31, 2015, 10:37:26 AM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...

Had a chat with him 2 months ago and he said he is healthy. To me he looks like a player who could benefit from a move out of a system that is not suited to him or not rated by the coach. I think he can play but this is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: The Machine on October 31, 2015, 10:59:11 AM
Brant Colledge , Harry Marsh, Kieran Harper, Josh Glenn, Tom Vandeleur, Jacob Bollard, Cameron Giles. I would look to these guys to fill our last positions and also rookie list.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 31, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
Had a chat with him 2 months ago and he said he is healthy. To me he looks like a player who could benefit from a move out of a system that is not suited to him or not rated by the coach. I think he can play but this is just my opinion.
If he's right to go then I'm with you,I was hoping we'd get him in his draft  but gone by our 2nd pick.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: tdy on October 31, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
No to Daw from me. He is lost on the field, would probably make a good Grid Iron player where there is less to think about, but once the AFL chaos ensues he is hopeless.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 31, 2015, 01:30:09 PM
People may rip into me but what do people think of Danny Stanley as a d/fa.
Since he has been at GCS he has been pretty consistent.Actually shown he can play good consistent footy. He is a big bodied mid 187/90 has good pace, kicks well, has done run with roles well and does get his hands on the ball.  In fact he has done most roles for gc since he has been there.
He only managed 8 games this year so im assuming he had a few injury problems. He is still only 27 and i have to say i have liked what i have seen of him when watching gc games.

Be gentle im only putting it out there.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Yeahright on October 31, 2015, 01:50:10 PM
Only seen him once and it was that time he had a day out against us. So if I was Blair then you could bet on us getting him
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: one-eyed on October 31, 2015, 02:01:04 PM
Here's a list of the delisted free agents.

The bold names with info are the AFL website's "worth a look for Richmond" choices:



Worth a look? The discards your club should consider

Jennifer Phelan, Nathan Schmook, Peter Ryan, Adam Curley, Travis King, Andrew Lowther, Nat Edwards
AFL.com.au
October 31, 2015

 
Jed Adcock    Age: 29      Club: Brisbane Lions (2004-16)      Games: 206

Jacob Ballard  Age: 21      Club: Fremantle (2014-1015)        Games: 1
2015 summary: A consistent ball-magnet in the WAFL with Peel Thunder, Ballard regular racked up high possession tallies. Played his only AFL game in round 23 when the Dockers rested players en-masse.
Pros: A great character and hard worker, clubs would know Ballard would do everything to make it. Only just squeezed off the Dockers' list so he's not far off.
Cons: Disposal efficiency is a concern and he needs to improve his speed from hand to foot to make it in a high-pressure AFL midfield.
Would suit: Richmond

Alex Browne     Age: 23    Club: Essendon (2011-2015)           Games: 11
Ayce Cordy      Age: 25    Club: W.Bulldogs (2009-2015)         Games: 27
Ryan Crowley    Age: 31      Club: Fremantle (2003-2015)        Games: 188
Lauchlan Dalgleish Age: 22   Club: Essendon (2013-2015)         Games: 3
Sam Darley      Age: 22   Clubs: GWS (2012-13), WB (2014-15)    Games: 20
Majak Daw       Age: 24     Club: North Melbourne (2012-2015)   Games: 16
Josh Deluca     Age: 19        Club: Fremantle (2014)           Games: 0
Max Duffy       Age: 22      Club: Fremantle (2013-2015)        Games: 3
Mitch Golby     Age: 24     Club: Brisbane Lions (2011-15)      Games: 56
Daniel Gorringe  Age: 23    Club: Gold Coast (2010-2015)        Games: 22
Jarrad Grant    Age: 26    Club: Western Bulldogs (2009-2015)   Games: 81
Sam Grimley     Age: 24       Club: Hawthorn (2009-2015)        Games: 3

Kieran Harper   Age: 23     Club: North Melbourne (2011-2015)   Games: 39
2015 summary: A knee injury forced him to start late but he was playing solid VFL football at season's end.
Pros: An AFL talent with pace and goal sense.
Cons: Doesn't find enough of the ball and has not played a senior game for two years.
Would suit: Richmond
 
Nick Holman     Age: 20      Club: Carlton (2014, 2015)         Games: 9

Mark Jamar      Age: 32      Club: Melbourne (2003-2015)       Games: 155
2015 summary: Set the tone in round one and showed reasonable form before being squeezed out in round six as the Demons went for youth.
Pros: A ruck craftsman who would be an asset as a teacher as much as a player if he found a spot. When he plays he can hit hard and create space.
Cons: Reserved in his leadership but is a solid citizen. Needs to win more of the ball to play seniors.
Would suit: Richmond.

Elliott Kavanagh Age: 22     Club: Essendon (2012-2015)          Games: 12
Lachlan Keeffe   Age: 25     Club: Collingwood (2011-2015)       Games: 40
Harry Marsh     Age: 21      Club: Sydney Swans (2012-2015)      Games: 0
Brodie Martin   Age: 26      Club: Adelaide (2009-15)            Games: 38
Jordie McKenzie  Age: 25     Club: Melbourne (2009-2015)         Games: 79
Kane Mitchell   Age: 25      Club: Port Adelaide (2013-2015)     Games: 31

Anthony Morabito Age: 24     Club: Fremantle (2010-2015)  Games: 26

Zac O'Brien     Age: 25      Club: Brisbane Lions (2014-15)    Games: 13
2015 summary: Managed just eight senior games and had a mid-season altercation with Lions coach Justin Leppitsch during half-time of a NEAFL match. Won the reserves best and fairest.
Pros: Fitness levels are a strong point and with the sub rule gone for next season, he could be a valuable addition.
Cons: Incident with the senior coach would put a lot of clubs off taking a chance.
Would suit: Richmond.

Farren Ray       Age: 29    Clubs: WB (2004-08), St K (2009-15)   Games: 205

Ahmed Saad       Age: 26    Club: St K (2012-13, 2015)   Games: 33     
2015 summary: His first season back at the Saints after serving an 18-month suspension for testing positive to a banned stimulant, was elevated to the senior list early and played four games but was overtaken by fellow rookies Jack Sinclair and Adam Schneider.
Pros: Precise kicking ability and possesses strong work ethic, as was proven when he kept himself in top shape while serving his suspension.
Cons: Can go missing and needs to be more consistent with the defensive side of his game.
Would suit: Richmond.

Jonathan Simpkin Age: 28    Clubs: Syd (2006-07), Geel (2011-12), Haw (2013-15)  Games: 37
Mathew Stokes    Age: 30    Club: Geelong (2006-2015)    Games: 189
Josh Thomas      Age: 24   Club: Collingwood (2013-2015) Games: 32
Robbie Warnock   Age: 28    Clubs: Freo (2007-08), Carl (2010-15)    Games: 88
Matthew Watson   Age: 23     Club: Carlton (2011-2015)   Games: 23
Spencer White    Age: 21    Club: St Kilda (2012-15)     Games: 2
Alex Woodward    Age: 22    Clubs: Hawthorn (2012-2015)  Games: 2
Matthew Wright   Age: 25    Club: Adelaide (2011-15)     Games: 94

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-31/worth-a-look-the-delisted-afl-players-your-club-could-consider
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on October 31, 2015, 02:28:33 PM
O'Brien, Ballard, Harper & Saad all before Moore. Jamar would just be an older and even more overcooked version of Maric.

Would also look at White, Wright, Siposs (not listed there?)Redden & Gorringe.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Willy on October 31, 2015, 03:56:15 PM
Harper would definitely have a look at  but has he still got ankle problems?
Also noticed Daniel Gorringe was delisted aswell .

Word is his ankles are "very bad" ...
A shame really as he is a very good in & under type even though Scott used him for his outside pace.

Wot?
He's as outside as they come.
Did you watch any of his junior games at Eastern.Looked nuggety & hard at it when put on the ball at times.

Nope. Just going by what I've seen at AFL/VFL
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Smokey on October 31, 2015, 05:31:07 PM
Zac O'Brien for me.  Could easily be as good a get as Miles.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 31, 2015, 05:33:46 PM
Zac O'Brien for me.  Could easily be as good a get as Miles.
Astute choice.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: one-eyed on October 31, 2015, 06:18:59 PM
O'Brien, Ballard, Harper & Saad all before Moore. Jamar would just be an older and even more overcooked version of Maric.

Would also look at White, Wright, Siposs (not listed there?), Redden & Gorringe.
Issues with Siposs' reconstructed shoulder may be the reason why he isn't on any of these lists, even though he was delisted by the Saints. He's not on Foxsports' list of DFA's either:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-delistings-2015-14-players-with-more-to-give-and-could-be-given-second-chance/story-e6frf3e3-1227589072677
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on October 31, 2015, 06:41:19 PM
ok serious question.

how many years do you think it will be before he is ready to compete with AFL ruckmen?
Another season developing in the ressies at least.
He is already 204cm/104kg Physically he is close. Still lacking core strength and maturity. Would hope in two yrs he could play second fiddle or come in and cover for injury. He would still only be 22 with a lot of developing to do still.
Has to be worth a rookie pick nothing lost if he doesn't make it.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Damo on November 01, 2015, 09:11:45 PM
He is lost on the field, would probably make a good Grid Iron player where there is less to think about

This is a bizarre comment. NFL playbooks are enormous and it is WITHOUT DOUBT the most strategic sport in the world. You need to run precise routes timed to the micro second. If he can't work out the "chaos" of AFL, then he's no hope of working out gridiron.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on November 01, 2015, 09:37:57 PM
Pfft....a dumb NRL meathead picked it up in 6 months...
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: mightytiges on November 01, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
He is lost on the field, would probably make a good Grid Iron player where there is less to think about

This is a bizarre comment. NFL playbooks are enormous and it is WITHOUT DOUBT the most strategic sport in the world. You need to run precise routes timed to the micro second. If he can't work out the "chaos" of AFL, then he's no hope of working out gridiron.
I think torch is saying that Daw would find easier the set line of scrimmage facing the opposition and the set-plays of NFL where you do have to run pre-determined precise routes to the micro-second than he finds the unpredictable 360 degree nature of Aussie Rules.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Yeahright on November 01, 2015, 10:53:29 PM
Pfft....a dumb NRL meathead picked it up in 6 months...

Didn't he get sacked recently?
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on November 01, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Yesterday....still has at least two other teams interested in him....
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on November 01, 2015, 11:23:20 PM
Yesterday....still has at least two other teams interested in him....
HES A FREAKIN DUD OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
An athletic freak who has no freakin idea about the game. Fair dinkum if he wasnt black and the first sudanese ? to play the game HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DELISTED AGES AGO.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on November 01, 2015, 11:26:16 PM
Wasn't talking about Daw. At least try and follow the stuffing convo before you jump in ranting with your caps lock on like a stuffing nong.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: the claw on November 01, 2015, 11:30:23 PM
Wasn't talking about Daw. At least try and follow the stuffing convo before you jump in ranting with your caps lock on like a stuffing nong.
Ah my bad and apologies. But if you were talking about daw. HES A FREAKIN .............................
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Diocletian on November 01, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
I agree...though he did make Maric look like a dud in the ruck for large parts of the Round 23 clash.....
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Yeahright on November 02, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
Wonder how he'd go in a team with their own ressies. Surely that'd help his development
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Andyy on November 03, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
Think Daw has potential personally. Could be anything or nothing. Would just play him KPF myself....

Otherwise I'd definitely consider Saad.
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: camboon on November 03, 2015, 10:34:30 PM
Is this the bloke who was facing charges? If he was or is , remember a bloke called Harley , no thanks
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 04, 2015, 06:59:44 AM
Is this the bloke who was facing charges? If he was or is , remember a bloke called Harley , no thanks

Yes he is; due to face court early late this month or early next month IIRC
Title: Re: Blair's DFA targets...
Post by: Stalin on November 04, 2015, 07:20:42 AM
We should run it by Rosie batty