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Title: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 04, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
If you backed a horse  who ran 8th three races in a row, would you think they were any good?
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 04, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
What if you finished the race 5th .....then are challenged to a race by the horse that finished ninth....and then lose that ( despite being a mile in front at the halfway)
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 04, 2016, 06:28:33 PM
What if you finished the race 5th .....then are challenged to a race by the horse that finished ninth....and then lose that ( despite being a mile in front at the halfway)

Sounds legit
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 04, 2016, 06:30:11 PM
It's an improvement on the previous decade where we finished 15th in a 16 horse race.

http://afltables.com/afl/teams/allteams/overall_wl_dec.html
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 04, 2016, 06:41:44 PM
Some on here would argue it's better to finish 15th or 16th than 8th.

The Melbourne way.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Willy on March 04, 2016, 06:44:32 PM
This year will be very telling.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Penelope on March 04, 2016, 06:46:34 PM
If you backed a horse  who ran 8th three races in a row, would you think they were any good?
who is the trainer and who rode the horse in the races?
what distance and what class races?
how old is the horse and what weight was it carrying?
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Diocletian on March 04, 2016, 06:50:02 PM
Some on here would argue it's better to finish 15th or 16th than 8th.

The Melbourne way.

Yes, let's only judge the club against the standards of past Richmond sides and Melbourne to get an easy pass mark every time! :gotigers
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 04, 2016, 07:53:06 PM
Flip flop
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Stalin on March 04, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Some on here would argue it's better to finish 15th or 16th than 8th.

The Melbourne way.

Yes, let's only judge the club against the standards of past Richmond sides and Melbourne to get an easy pass mark every time! :gotigers

its like the special Olympics around here at times
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Chuck17 on March 04, 2016, 08:00:35 PM
Some on here would argue it's better to finish 15th or 16th than 8th.

The Melbourne way.

Yes, let's only judge the club against the standards of past Richmond sides and Melbourne to get an easy pass mark every time! :gotigers

Melbourne is an unfair benchmark as they went past us ages ago
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Penelope on March 04, 2016, 08:06:50 PM
yes, very true
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 04, 2016, 08:19:59 PM
How could you not love Melbourne - they are our Paul Pfeiffer.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: the claw on March 04, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
If you backed a horse  who ran 8th three races in a row, would you think they were any good?
HMM logic says that is somewhere in the middle. Does that mean his finishes are middling? lol.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: the claw on March 04, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
What if you finished the race 5th .....then are challenged to a race by the horse that finished ninth....and then lose that ( despite being a mile in front at the halfway)
What if it wasnt the end of the race but nothing more  than  the home turn and your sitting 5th coming to the business end of the race where the champion horses always find something extra.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 04, 2016, 09:35:00 PM
Sack the trainer
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: JP Tiger on March 04, 2016, 10:20:29 PM
Leave a horses' head in the right bed ....    :o
Sorry ... wrong movie! 
You were doing My Friend Flicka, right?     
How about a little Ben Hur action to get the crowd at the coliseum going?    ;D
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on March 04, 2016, 10:29:29 PM
Should have finished 2 points from top spot last year by beating Freo at the G. We're top 4 quality. Unlucky to get our bogey side in the first final
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Diocletian on March 04, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
Yeah dumb selections, pathetic coaching and being thoroughly outplayed in every aspect all combining for the same match was pretty unlucky....
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 05, 2016, 01:19:39 AM
Yeah dumb selections, pathetic coaching and being thoroughly outplayed in every aspect all combining for the same match was pretty unlucky....
Kicking against the wind vs Port was pretty unlucky.

So was Cotchins 9 possessions.

So was the lay down against Carlton.

So unlucky.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 05, 2016, 07:09:32 AM
Such a poor analogy..,,
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 05, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
Should have finished 2 points from top spot last year by beating Freo at the G. We're top 4 quality. Unlucky to get our bogey side in the first final

You probably think we should have won because in real life a tiger would beat a kangaroo.

It's also known as 'Mat073's Law'
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 05, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Tom Hafey match.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 05, 2016, 02:50:00 PM
Should have finished 2 points from top spot last year by beating Freo at the G. We're top 4 quality. Unlucky to get our bogey side in the first final

You probably think we should have won because in real life a tiger would beat a kangaroo.

It's also known as 'Mat073's Law'

Richmond 2015

1). Best percentage since 1982 ( FACT)
2) Better percentage than the minor premiers ( FACT )
3) Third best defence in the comp ( FACT)
4) Conceeded the least amount of goals last season ( FACT )
5) Was a brain fart away from defeating the minor premiers twice ( FACT )
6) Defeated a full strength Hawthorn ( FACT )
7) Won 15 games . 15 games was enough to secure a top 4 birth in years  2000 till 2011 ( FACT)
8  ) beat Sydney at the SCG ( FACT)
9) Beat Port at the Adelaide Oval  ( FACT)
10) Won 42 games in the past 3 seasons - 5th best in the competition ( FACT)
11) Despite playing abysmally we have been in front during the final quarter in two of our recent 3 EFs

12) Is there a precedent of a team losing 3 EFs in a row before moving on to bigger and better things . Yes there is - WCE 02 till 04 . ( FACT)

I simply don't agree that is all doom and gloom.

But what would I know . I am a nuffer who keeps drinking the Kool aid and believes in unicorns.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Diocletian on March 05, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
Should have finished 2 points from top spot last year by beating Freo at the G. We're top 4 quality. Unlucky to get our bogey side in the first final

You probably think we should have won because in real life a tiger would beat a kangaroo.

It's also known as 'Mat073's Law'

Richmond 2015

1). Best percentage since 1982 ( FACT) OF ALL CLUBS OR JUST CRAPPY RICHMOND SIDES SINCE 1982?
2) Better percentage than the minor premiers ( FACT )MORE WINS TOO? DID WE GET A TROPHY? A DOUBLE CHANCE?
3) Third best defence in the ( FACT) YEAH AND...? HOW WAS OUR DEFENCE IN FINALS?
4) Conceeded the least amount of goals last season ( FACT ) EXCEPT WHEN IT MATTERED AND ATTACK WAS STILL BELOW AVERAGE
5) Was a brain fart away from defeating the minor premiers twice ( FACT ) BUT DIDN"T
6) Defeated a full strength Hawthorn ( FACT ) IN JULY
7) Won 15 games . 15 games was enough to secure a top 4 birth in years  2000 till 2011 ( FACT) BUT WASN'T LAST YEAR -SO WHAT? DID THAT IN 2013 TOO.
8) Beat Sydney at the SCG ( FACT) IN JUNE AND THEY WEREN"T THAT GOOD LAST YEAR.
9) Beat Port at the Adelaide Oval  ( FACT) NON-FINALISTS WHO WERE WOEFULLY OUT OF FORM.
10) Won 42 games in the past 3 seasons - 5th best in the competition ( FACT) SO STILL NOT A TOP 4  SIDE THEN?
11) Despite playing abysmally we have been in front during the final quarter in two of our recent 3 EFs WELL WACKO!!AREN"T WE JUST AWESOME CHOKERS!?!

12) Is there a precedent of a team losing 3 EFs in a row before moving on to bigger and better things . Yes there is - WCE 02 till 04 . ( FACT) YES IF IT HAPPENED ONCE BEFORE THEN SURELY IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!HARDWICK MUST BE AS GOOD AS WORSFOLD! WERE THOSE 3 WCE EF"S AFTER 12 YEARS OF NO FINALS?

I simply don't agree that is all doom and gloom. NOR DO MOST OF US - WE SIMPLY DON'T THINK IT'S ALL SUNSHINE, LOLLIPOPS  & RAINBOWS EITHER AND THINGS WILL JUST AUTOMATICALLY IMPROVE WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.

But what would I know . I am a nuffer who keeps drinking the Kool aid and believes in unicorns. CORRECT.

Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: JP Tiger on March 05, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
Good post Mat! 
I like reality & facts, they are two of my favorite things!   
Those who look up are aiming to get there, those who look down surely won't.    ;)
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 05, 2016, 04:17:40 PM
I wouldn't bother biting Matt
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: bojangles17 on March 05, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
A completely irrelevant analogy as it neglects the qualifying period that establishes the ladder heirachy. Would be like arguing a horse that comes 6th in the cox plate is little better than the stony ck maiden winner that failed to qualify.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 05, 2016, 08:05:43 PM
ELE (Dooks circa 2014)
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Petey on March 05, 2016, 08:06:29 PM
YBB changing subject by reminding us he's a stalker  :lol :wallywink
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 05, 2016, 08:43:22 PM
YBB changing subject by reminding us he's a stalker  :lol :wallywink
Me, a stalker? :lol
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: mat073 on March 05, 2016, 08:49:21 PM
I think I have found the perfect site for you where constant Richmond bashing is not only welcome ....Its strongly encouraged.
It's the perfect site to belittle those silly optimistic and delusional tiger fans.

http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3531/season-2016-richmond


I'm sure you will get all the validation you need there.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: Stalin on March 05, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
I think I have found the perfect site for you where constant Richmond bashing is not only welcome ....Its strongly encouraged.
It's the perfect site to belittle those silly optimistic and delusional tiger fans.

http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3531/season-2016-richmond


I'm sure you will get all the validation you need there.

Hilarious
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 05, 2016, 09:29:03 PM
I think I have found the perfect site for you where constant Richmond bashing is not only welcome ....Its strongly encouraged.
It's the perfect site to belittle those silly optimistic and delusional tiger fans.

http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3531/season-2016-richmond


I'm sure you will get all the validation you need there.

For they seek not validation, only success.
Title: Re: Finishing 8th in an 18 horse race
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 05, 2016, 09:47:39 PM
I think I have found the perfect site for you where constant Richmond bashing is not only welcome ....Its strongly encouraged.
It's the perfect site to belittle those silly optimistic and delusional tiger fans.

http://www.bomberblitz.com/discussion/discussion/3531/season-2016-richmond


I'm sure you will get all the validation you need there.

Open and accountable debate.  You could learn a few things