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VFL Round 1, 2016
Williamstown vs Richmond
2:00 PM
Sunday, 10 April @ Burbank Oval, Williamstown.
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Tigers' VFL and development coach Craig McRae said his group was ready for the challenge of traveling to the Seagulls’ fortress Burbank Oval.
“It’s always good to start the season… five odd months and four practice games, we’re ready to go,” McRae said.
“We’ve learnt some good lessons along the way and we’re looking forward to the challenge. We’re just trying to get the ‘Richmond Way’, for everyone to come and watch… the VFL side play and see our style.
“It’s been difficult at times to see that and we’ve had a couple of hiccups along the way, or speed bumps as I like to call them. We’re looking to improve every week and learn the lessons when we can.”
Former Greater Western Sydney and Western Bulldogs defender Sam Darley was appointed captain in his debut season at the Club.
The leadership group also includes former Port Melbourne defender Tom Langford, ex-Melbourne rookie Tom Couch and returning Tiger Ryan Gale.
While the squad has picked up plenty of experience, McRae said a number of younger AFL-listed players had also been impressive over the pre-season.
“Oleg Markov, he’s an exciting player – he’s a talented, athletic player,” he said.
“Mabior Chol, we saw a bit of him in the NAB Challenge.
“Daniel Rioli if he plays down at this level, I don’t know if we’ll see him much, but he’ll tear it up...”
McRae hoped the VFL side would build on last year’s finish of 13th.
“I’m just looking for constant improvement. We need to be better,” he said.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-05/season-has-almost-arrived-vfl
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
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Must win game!
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VFL Round 1, 2016
Tigers' VFL and development coach Craig McRae said his group was ready for the challenge of traveling to the Seagulls’ fortress Burbank Oval.
“It’s always good to start the season… five odd months and four practice games, we’re ready to go,” McRae said.
“We’ve learnt some good lessons along the way and we’re looking forward to the challenge. We’re just trying to get the ‘Richmond Way’, for everyone to come and watch… the VFL side play and see our style.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-05/season-has-almost-arrived-vfl
Would that be the old, "worst 30 seconds of footy ever played" or the new and improved, "worst 4 minutes of footy ever played"?
Maybe looking to improve that to a solid ten minutes if all goes to plan. :banghead
Either way it has the footy world rolling in laughter at the AFL joke of the competition.
Richmond FC, ruining football careers since 1983. :clapping
:gotigers
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
:lol
Imagine an optimists vs pessimist footy match?!
It would be willing a contest. Pretty spiteful too I reckon. I can see OX getting rubbed out for 20 weeks. ;D
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
:lol
Imagine an optimists vs pessimist footy match?!
It would be willing a contest. Pretty spiteful too I reckon. I can see OX getting rubbed out for 20 weeks. ;D
The pessimists would of sacked their coach by quarter time - captain Dooks dumped and replaced at half time - and would be in full tanking mode by the end of the third quarter.
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
:lol
Imagine an optimists vs pessimist footy match?!
It would be willing a contest. Pretty spiteful too I reckon. I can see OX getting rubbed out for 20 weeks. ;D
The pessimists would of sacked their coach by quarter time - captain Dooks dumped and replaced at half time - and would be in full tanking mode by the end of the third quarter.
It would never come to that. Your boys would lay down on the field for a communal hug from the first bounce, as goal after goal sailed over your defenders heads. A 200 point drubbing and you'd be clapping yourselves off thinking a job well done.
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Heading down the road to Williamstown on Sunday for this game
Don't get to as many VFL games as I'd like
Thinking of taking one of the 4 legged kids jist cant decide which one :rollin
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Heading down the road to Williamstown on Sunday for this game
Don't get to as many VFL games as I'd like
Thonomg of taking one of the 4 legged kids jist cant decide which one :rollin
Do members get in. Or is that just home games? Also is there room for the four legged creatures?
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Heading down the road to Williamstown on Sunday for this game
Don't get to as many VFL games as I'd like
Thonomg of taking one of the 4 legged kids jist cant decide which one :rollin
Do members get in. Or is that just home games? Also is there room for the four legged creatures?
Willy home game means RFC members can get in at discounted price
We only get in home games for free
No special rooms for the four legged kids but they are certainly welcome at VFL games except at Port Melb games ;D
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
:lol
Imagine an optimists vs pessimist footy match?!
It would be willing a contest. Pretty spiteful too I reckon. I can see OX getting rubbed out for 20 weeks. ;D
Pretty good idea
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Willy by 20 goals (the team that is, not the OER poster....he'd probably only beat our VFL side by about 12 goals....)
:lol
Imagine an optimists vs pessimist footy match?!
It would be willing a contest. Pretty spiteful too I reckon. I can see OX getting rubbed out for 20 weeks. ;D
The pessimists would of sacked their coach by quarter time - captain Dooks dumped and replaced at half time - and would be in full tanking mode by the end of the third quarter.
It would never come to that. Your boys would lay down on the field for a communal hug from the first bounce, as goal after goal sailed over your defenders heads. A 200 point drubbing and you'd be clapping yourselves off thinking a job well done.
Bit hard to kick goals when you're too busy punching on with your own players trying to blame each other for not kicking it to you
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Nah, the Pessimist team would forfeit the game, throw their hands in the air saying, "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" :-\
The Optimists would accept the win, knowing it was inevitable anyway. After a few Gatorade showers to 'blood' their newbies they will sing a few verses of their theme song -
"For we're the Optimists, from OER we are the Optimists!
In any forum you will see us with a grin, stick our noses in.
When we're in pose, we'll never close, our glasses coloured rose!
For we're the Optimists, we never stop until all the trolls go home.
But now its getting cold, we're all bloody old.
But we're the Opti-M-I-S-T's! We're the Op-ti-mists!" ;D
Catchy tune eh? :whistle
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:-X
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Tiger VFL side - ivan comes back via the VFL, knew he was playing ghis week just thought theyd role the dice. ..but no dice
;D
B 11. J Batchelor 65. R Gale 35. N Broad
HB 28. T Hunt 46. J Castagna 60. T Langford
C 51. S Darley 15. A Moore 44. A Marcon
HF 71. N Mellington 34. L McBean 31. O Markov
F 41. M Chol 24. B Griffiths 43. T Elton
R 20. I Maric 73. T Couch 38. S Morris
Int 47. I Soldo 66. G Gleeson 59. A Morris 74. T Kruse 52. A Scott 67. L Conca 72. R Thomson
23P: 64. T Silvestro
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Maric!
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Has Soldo shown anything?
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Tiger VFL side - ivan comes back via the VFL, knew he was playing ghis week just thought theyd role the dice. ..but no dice
;D
B 11. J Batchelor 65. R Gale 35. N Broad
HB 28. T Hunt 46. J Castagna 60. T Langford
C 51. S Darley 15. A Moore 44. A Marcon
HF 71. N Mellington 34. L McBean 31. O Markov
F 41. M Chol 24. B Griffiths 43. T Elton
R 20. I Maric 73. T Couch 38. S Morris
Int 47. I Soldo 66. G Gleeson 59. A Morris 74. T Kruse 52. A Scott 67. L Conca 72. R Thomson
23P: 64. T Silvestro
No Jacob Ballard, didnt play last week either
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So if Townsend was simply omitted then why isnt he playing VFL?
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Late change for grigg :pray
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Not sure if he trained this week....
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Tiger VFL side - ivan comes back via the VFL, knew he was playing ghis week just thought theyd role the dice. ..but no dice
;D
B 11. J Batchelor 65. R Gale 35. N Broad
HB 28. T Hunt 46. J Castagna 60. T Langford
C 51. S Darley 15. A Moore 44. A Marcon
HF 71. N Mellington 34. L McBean 31. O Markov
F 41. M Chol 24. B Griffiths 43. T Elton
R 20. I Maric 73. T Couch 38. S Morris
Int 47. I Soldo 66. G Gleeson 59. A Morris 74. T Kruse 52. A Scott 67. L Conca 72. R Thomson
23P: 64. T Silvestro
No Jacob Ballard, didnt play last week either
Why? Injured? Surely not out of favour?
Where's Townsendf?
I thought we'd finally peed of Conca's fat useless brother?
Yep our VFL side - three years in and still providing us with more questions than answers....
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Tiger VFL side - ivan comes back via the VFL, knew he was playing ghis week just thought theyd role the dice. ..but no dice
;D
B 11. J Batchelor 65. R Gale 35. N Broad
HB 28. T Hunt 46. J Castagna 60. T Langford
C 51. S Darley 15. A Moore 44. A Marcon
HF 71. N Mellington 34. L McBean 31. O Markov
F 41. M Chol 24. B Griffiths 43. T Elton
R 20. I Maric 73. T Couch 38. S Morris
Int 47. I Soldo 66. G Gleeson 59. A Morris 74. T Kruse 52. A Scott 67. L Conca 72. R Thomson
23P: 64. T Silvestro
Apparently Jarrod Silvester's Italian cousin, and like his cousin our next big thing in defence. :clapping :gotigers
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Very interested in this game.
Is it televised or any video or audio links.
l reckon this team can knock Williamstown off.
:gotigers
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Where's Townsendf?
told us at a prematch function yesterday that he had been dropped because of poor form (yes he did explain the areas he hadn't gone well and acknowledged them)
But said he wasn't playing VFL because he had copped 3 minor corkies over the first 3 rounds & that another one would mean missing games. So with a 5 day turn around for the VFL players to round 4 it was decided not play him this week in the VFL
Have to say the kid spoke very impressively indeed. Was honest and you have to applaud that
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Very interested in this game.
Is it televised or any video or audio links.
l reckon this team can knock Williamstown off.
:gotigers
No TV coverage
Have no idea about audio links etc
Hoping to get there but looking doubtful now; family comes first
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Prob better to stay at home in front of the gas log fire. l can't be bothered driving the hours to watch it. Will get scores of the net
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Scores please.
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Scores please.
Just 3 mins gone.
Rich 0
Willy 13
:-\
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@WilliamstownFC testing Ben Griffiths' temperament, there's a little bit of niggle in this one early on. #gotiges
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
Ivan is playing.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfpwLmiVAAANU8T.jpg)
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Steve Morris finds Liam McBean and he delivers with a set-shot from 50.
Rich 6
Willy 15
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Bean needs another 3-4 years in the twos
Learn the defensive side
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Liam McBean kicks his second after some excellent pressure and hustle inside 50. Energy levels lifting.
Rich 12
Willy 15
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The Ivans combined for our third in as many minutes as we take the lead (Soldo's goal). Definite feeling in this one.
Jake Batchelor and Nathan Broad standing-up strongly down back and also instigating our attacking chains.
RICH 19
WILL 16.
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Morris and Batch have had a touch, Hardwick will have them penned in already for next week. Pannick inclusions that the Eagles will absolutely flog. :snidegrin
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We were doing well until we gave up two goals to Willy deep into time-on.
Rich 20
Willy 29
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Thanks for the updates Sir Admin ;D
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bump ;D scores MT
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Quarter Time:
Maric utilising his strength & Batchelor and Broad solid down back with McBean looking dangerous.
Richmond 3.2-20
Will'town 4.6-30
Goals: McBean 2, Soldo
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Bean needs another 3-4 years in the twos
Learn the defensive side
according to WP.
grigg, hunt, houli all good though
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Q2 has started.
We're kicking with the wind and dominating possession but need to hit the scoreboard.
Rich 22
Willy 30
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Batchelor holding the ball and they hit the front, some players never change. Just what we DON'T need back.
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McBean's 3rd followed by another from the re-start put us in front. However, Willy have got one back to retake the lead.
Rich 34
Willy 36
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Q2: Its a seesawing affair as Jake Batchelor is caught holding the ball deep in defence and pays the price. WILL 36 to RICH 34
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"Georgie" Castagna warming into his forward role as he cooly slots his first goal on the run from 45 and gives us a 4-point lead.
Rich 41
Willy 37
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Momentum and lead back with Williamstown after having the game on our terms.
Rich 42
Willy 44
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Where's Townsendf?
told us at a prematch function yesterday that he had been dropped because of poor form (yes he did explain the areas he hadn't gone well and acknowledged them)
But said he wasn't playing VFL because he had copped 3 minor corkies over the first 3 rounds & that another one would mean missing games. So with a 5 day turn around for the VFL players to round 4 it was decided not play him this week in the VFL
Have to say the kid spoke very impressively indeed. Was honest and you have to applaud that
The "Richmond Way" WP. The club will certainly develop him into a very boring accountant type. ;D
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An excellent Taylor Hunt smother results in us regaining the lead. A super team goal. RICH 7.6.(48) to WILL 6.8.(44).
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Half-time
Richmond 3.2 7.6-48
Williamstown 4.6 6.8-44
Goals: McBean 3, Soldo, Castagna, ?, ?.
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Q3 has started and Willy gets the first two goals :-\.
Rich 48
Willy 58
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL
I've got to head out now. If someone could take over posting score & goal updates, it'll be much appreciated.
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l don't use twitter so who else is updating
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Q3: Things are heating-up at Burbank Oval as we're taking it right up to the reigning premiers. WILL 58 to RICH 48
:snidegrin copy & paste works lol
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Q3: Tom Couch draws us within four points after an excellent squaring kick by Oleg Markov. WILL 58 to RICH 54
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Q3: @WilliamstownFC out to an 11-point lead 20 minutes into the third. WILL 65 to RICH 54
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WILL 72 to RICH 54
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Mabior Chol, bounding from D50 and the ball refused to bounce and @WilliamstownFC regain possesion slot another. WILL 72 to RICH 54
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sorry no Twits sending tweets for 9 minutes :snidegrin
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3QT: Williamstown blitzing w/ a six goal 3rd term . Our pressure is up but we're lacking a bit of polish. WILL 84 to RICH 55
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Jason Castagna's surge and spread from stoppages shone in that term. A 23-point deficit heading into the last
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Just the start we were looking for 33 secs into the last. Its now a 23-point margin, cut from 29 at 3QT. WILL 84 to RICH 61
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Ayce Cordy gets a "Joe the Goose" and pushes the margin out to 35 points. It will be tough from here.
WiLL 96 to RICH 61
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Three in three minutes to @WilliamstownFC and this one looks to be slipping away.
WILL 102 to RICH 61
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Soldo's snap from congestion slams into the post. We're pressing but not hitting the scoreboard.
WILL 102 to RICH 62
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sorry no twits posting at present ;D
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A defenisve mix-up by Chol and Morris adds to the pain as WilliamstownFC skip to a 46-point lead.
WILL 108 to RICH 62
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Soldo's snap from congestion slams into the post. We're pressing but not hitting the scoreboard.
So, the same as the seniors .
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lol. Welcome back to shitmond Mcrae
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Soldo's snap from congestion slams into the post. We're pressing but not hitting the scoreboard.
So, the same as the seniors .
Depends they may have taken some of our senoir players like Maric off l don't know these twits are not very bright ;D
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takes them roughly 7 minutes to send a tweety :snidegrin
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Hey Monk
I was there till 3/4 time
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How did the Griffiths ankle ??
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Surely game must be over
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The Richmond way :rollin
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Don't know Jack l just getting tweets of the site & posting them. Know nothing about the game at all
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For a multi million dollar industry surely in today's world of media RFC could give its fans a feed to watch or listen
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Full Time:
Tiges put up a spirited round 1 effort. Pressure and intensity were high, but outclassed.
WILL 16.13.(109) to RICH 9.10.64.
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Full Time:
Tiges put up a spirited round 1 effort. Pressure and intensity were high, but outclassed.
WILL 16.13.(109) to RICH 9.10.64.
BTW these ain't my words. Just copy & pasted. :snidegrin
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Very windy there
Say 4 goal wind
Best Tigers
Georgie Castanzo
McBean
Maric
Hunt
Batchelor
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Hunt. Lmao
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Very windy there
Say 4 goal wind
Best Tigers
Georgie Castanzo
McBean
Maric
Hunt
Batchelor
Georgie ready for senior footy yet?
McBean do enough for a call up?
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
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Hunt. Lmao
x2 that guy needs to be sold back to Geelong & they pay us double money for fraud
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
Why do you say Rioli or Short would have to come out for Castagna? That is some serious pace between those 3 boys. Let them run riot over on the big ground in Perth.
Play all the bloody kids I say. At least they have a crack.
Watching the Hawks and Doggies game now and it's like watching a different sport than our game yesterday. Both sides run hard and run forward as soon as they have the footy. We make footy look a lot harder than it needs to be.
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
Why do you say Rioli or Short would have to come out for Castagna? That is some serious pace between those 3 boys. Let them run riot over on the big ground in Perth.
Play all the bloody kids I say. At least they have a crack.
Watching the Hawks and Doggies game now and it's like watching a different sport than our game yesterday. Both sides run hard and run forward as soon as they have the footy. We make footy look a lot harder than it needs to be.
Agree with all of this.
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Hunt. Lmao
x2 that guy needs to be sold back to Geelong & they pay us double money for fraud
Wasn't he a delisted free agent?
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Hunt. Lmao
x2 that guy needs to be sold back to Geelong & they pay us double money for fraud
Wasn't he a delisted free agent?
can't remember but give him back then ;D
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
Why do you say Rioli or Short would have to come out for Castagna? That is some serious pace between those 3 boys. Let them run riot over on the big ground in Perth.
Play all the bloody kids I say. At least they have a crack.
Watching the Hawks and Doggies game now and it's like watching a different sport than our game yesterday. Both sides run hard and run forward as soon as they have the footy. We make footy look a lot harder than it needs to be.
Think 3 very light body players and throw in the other smalls ?
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
Why do you say Rioli or Short would have to come out for Castagna? That is some serious pace between those 3 boys. Let them run riot over on the big ground in Perth.
Play all the bloody kids I say. At least they have a crack.
Watching the Hawks and Doggies game now and it's like watching a different sport than our game yesterday. Both sides run hard and run forward as soon as they have the footy. We make footy look a lot harder than it needs to be.
Think 3 very light body players and throw in the other smalls ?
The Doggies have some really slight bodied boys but stuff they can run. We plod!
We need to get quicker.
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I wandered down to the game as well....it is in my neighborhood after-all. Some observations:
Bring Moore and Castagna in...thought they were best for us. Put Moore in the guts and slot Georgie in the back pocket.
Hunt is a mediocre VFL player at best...but at least he is better than GRIFFITHS!!!!! Soft, hopeless in the air and on the ground and is a sook.
Batch played angry but not polished.
McBean and Chol have gone past Elton and the sook.
I think Soldo has promise...I would stick with him.
Nick Mellington played injured, showed heaps of courage and imo was amongst our best......might be worth a rookie spot next year.
We should have grabbed no 6 for willy as a rookie and left Marcon there.
Ivan is well Ivan...tried hard all day.
And finally McCrae coaches the 'Richmond way'...need I say more.
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Very windy there
Say 4 goal wind
Best Tigers
Georgie Castanzo
McBean
Maric
Hunt
Batchelor
Yes it was windy
Interesting your views on a couple of players Jack
I managed to get there for the last part of the first half and then most of the 2nd half
I thought McBean was again poor in the 2nd efforts and attacking the contest stakes. Actually a coupe of times late in the 3rd he didnt even bother to attempt to get to 3 contests when he was only 10-15 metres away. I would hope he learnt alot today with big Maric out there. It was like he had hos own coach, Ivan spent alot of time giving him instruction
Thought George was ok, his wrokrate is excellent but hos disposal again is a worry...but considering how poor our afl guys he shoudl be a lock
Just on Maric, showed today what a tremendous leader he is... great thong abput VFL footy is you can hear things being said out on the ground. With Ivan it was like havong a playing coach out there today. He was fantastic. Thigns turned to crap the mpent he got pulled from the ground
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Hunt. Lmao
x2 that guy needs to be sold back to Geelong & they pay us double money for fraud
Wasn't he a delisted free agent?
can't remember but give him back then ;D
Oh I don't disagree with that.
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Very windy there
Say 4 goal wind
Best Tigers
Georgie Castanzo
McBean
Maric
Hunt
Batchelor
Yes it was windy
Interesting your views on a couple of players Jack
I managed to get there for the last part of the first half and then most of the 2nd half
I thought McBean was again poor in the 2nd efforts and attacking the contest stakes. Actually a coupe of times late in the 3rd he didnt even bother to attempt to get to 3 contests when he was only 10-15 metres away. I would hope he learnt alot today with big Maric out there. It was like he had hos own coach, Ivan spent alot of time giving him instruction
Thought George was ok, his wrokrate is excellent but hos disposal again is a worry...but considering how poor our afl guys he shoudl be a lock
Just on Maric, showed today what a tremendous leader he is... great thong abput VFL footy is you can hear things being said out on the ground. With Ivan it was like havong a playing coach out there today. He was fantastic. Thigns turned to crap the mpent he got pulled from the ground
McBean kicked 2 in a minute and was taken off????? No excuse for his absence later on in the game though..
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Very windy there
Say 4 goal wind
Best Tigers
Georgie Castanzo
McBean
Maric
Hunt
Batchelor
Yes it was windy
Interesting your views on a couple of players Jack
I managed to get there for the last part of the first half and then most of the 2nd half
I thought McBean was again poor in the 2nd efforts and attacking the contest stakes. Actually a coupe of times late in the 3rd he didnt even bother to attempt to get to 3 contests when he was only 10-15 metres away. I would hope he learnt alot today with big Maric out there. It was like he had hos own coach, Ivan spent alot of time giving him instruction
Thought George was ok, his wrokrate is excellent but hos disposal again is a worry...but considering how poor our afl guys he shoudl be a lock
Just on Maric, showed today what a tremendous leader he is... great thong abput VFL footy is you can hear things being said out on the ground. With Ivan it was like havong a playing coach out there today. He was fantastic. Thigns turned to crap the mpent he got pulled from the ground
Think McBean is a better option than Griffiths on what I saw today
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pearls of wisdom again
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He's right though....but then again, bringing back Post would be a better option than Griffiths at this stage....both Jayden & an actual post....
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Think Georgie is
Problem is that
Rioli and Short would have to drop out for him
As for McBean , better option than Griffiths who was hopeless before getting injured
Elton is really struggling I must add
Elton Struggled. :lol
He's right though....but then again, bringing back Post would be a better option than Griffiths at this stage....both Jayden & an actual post....
F. J thought Griffiths was a much better option than Fyfe.
Let's extend franks contract for another 10 years. :clapping
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
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Reckon he kicked 3-4 when I was there
If he was crap
Hate to see what you say about Griffiths
And he got a spray at quarter time as well
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Liam kicked 2.
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Reckon he kicked 3-4 when I was there
If he was crap
Hate to see what you say about Griffiths
And he got a spray at quarter time as well
Well Griifiths did manage to lay a tackle, Liam didn't :lol
From what i saw he was extremely disappointing. And to top it off he barked at Soldo to follow up and chase but refused to even try it himself
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Good play in the 1st Q where Ivan was 30 metres having a shot and he short passed to his cousin who then goaled
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Spirited VFL Tigers go down to Williamstown
Brenton Mann
richmondfc.com.au
April 11, 2016
Richmond’s VFL side showed plenty of spirit, but ultimately fell by 45 points to reigning premier Williamstown at Burbank Oval on Sunday.
A VFL side boasting 14 AFL-listed players, including returning ruckman Ivan Maric, had a clear intention to earn some respect amongst the competition, and went a fair way in doing so.
The Tigers more than matched it with their classier opponent and held a hard earnt four-point half-time lead, but ran out legs in the last half, final scores reading 16.13.(109) to 9.10.(64).
Such a key to Richmond’s success at AFL-level, Maric played 75% game time and more importantly got through the game unscathed.
Maric’s leadership and presence around the ball was evident from the get-go and his teammates rose around him, and after a patchy start, Richmond began to flourish.
Richmond’s debuting VFL coach Craig McRae lauded Maric’s strength in leadership around the contest, which contributed to the Tigers winning the clearance count 50–39.
“His (Maric) leadership and aggression around the ball and his ability to impact the game when we needed him to was really pleasing,” McRae said.
“We had a plan and he did everything he needed to do."
Key forward Ben Griffiths’ temperament was tested early and led to two dubious free kicks being awarded to Williamstown, who made him pay.
Unfortunately for Griffiths, his day ended prematurely with the key-forward leaving the field in the third term with a suspected ankle injury.
In a spiteful opening stanza, three out of the Seagulls’ four majors came from free kicks, in worrying signs for the Tigers, but back-to-back goals to Liam McBean steadied the side.
When the “Ivans”, Maric and Soldo, combined for the Tigers’ third goal moments after McBean’s brace, Richmond began to surge.
Although the Tigers went into quarter time trailing by ten points, their belief and confidence was growing and came to the fore in the second term.
Richmond went into the game with a distinct plan to constrict the Seagulls’ electric outside game, cause repeat stoppages, and shut the game down, and it rattled the reigning premiers.
The plan proved extremely effective in the second quarter as Richmond’s inside midfielders Adam Marcon, Andrew Moore and Jason Castagna bullocked the ball forward, and Richmond pressured at will.
In a see-sawing affair, Richmond’s senior contingent led from the front, as Steve Morris and Jake Batchelor stood tall down back, and youngster Nathan Broad springboarded off half-back.
Taylor Hunt’s excellent smother saw the Tigers sling-shot the ball inside 50, resulting in a goal in the shadows of half-time, which handed Richmond a slender four-point lead.
Castagna found himself further afield, splitting his time between forward and midfield in a move that worked to great effect. His classy goal on the run from 45 metres out in the second term highlighted his poise, and his nine tackles, nine contested possession and seven clearances showcased his ability to compete.
McRae was quite impressed with Castagna’s surge and spread from stoppages and his pressure around the contest.
“We’re looking for someone at AFL-level to put pressure on around the ball and we threw him in the middle and he showed a bit,” McRae said.
Any momentum that was gained in the second term was disintegrated in the third, as Williamstown banged on six goals to one and the Tigers looked to be labouring.
The intensity at the contest remained for the Tigers, but poor skill execution and decision making restricted them from mounting a significant challenge and trailed by 29 points at the final change.
The Tigers refused to yield and continually willed the ball forward in the last quarter but struggled to find a target inside 50, as the Seagulls coasted home.
Off-season recruit Andrew Moore (15 tackles and 16 contested possessions) stood out, while Batchelor (eight marks and five tackles) and Hunt (23 disposals and 10 handball receives) provided plenty of drive.
Castagna, McBean and Tom Couch kicked two for Richmond, wih Nick Mellington, Anthony Scott and Soldo bagging singles.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-10/spirited-vfl-tigers-go-down-to-williamstown
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Unfortunately for Griffiths, his day ended prematurely with the key-forward leaving the field in the third term with a suspected ankle injury.
Griffiths Is injured, finished on crutches with ankle/foot in ice. Was asked how his injury was and he shook his head so would think he will miss weeks.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-1-richmond-v-williamstown-burbank-oval-2pm-sunday-10-04-16.1128433/page-6#post-43830383
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The Age is saying it's a hammy :huh.
Ivan Maric back for Tigers as Ben Griffiths injures hamstring
Brent Diamond
The Age
11 April 2016
Influential Richmond ruckman Ivan Maric got through unscathed on his return from a back injury, but forward Ben Griffiths suffered a hamstring injury in the Tigers' 45-point loss to reigning premier Williamstown at Burbank Oval on Sunday.
It was Maric's first match since suffering a back complaint over the pre-season. He played 75 per cent game time – and despite looming large – Tigers VFL coach Craig McRae was unsure whether the coaching hierarchy would take the risk in slotting him in against West Coast's athletic big man Nic Naitanui on Friday night at Domain Stadium.
"I won't be the person who decides that. We had a plan and he did everything he could to do in his plan," McRae said.
The former Crow had just the 11 touches (five kicks and six handballs) in the clash, but was defiant against Williamstown's Nick Meese.
"I thought he had a good presence about him … his leadership and his aggression around the ball," he said. "We had minutes, game-time wise measured for him."
McRae said Griffiths will be assessed and undergo scans on Monday to determine the extent of the damage.
Adam Marcon and Taylor Hunt were among the Tigers' best, while Anthony Anastasio was best on ground for the Seagulls with four goals.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ivan-maric-back-for-tigers-as-ben-griffiths-injures-hamstring-20160410-go31a3.html
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I say it was an Ankle
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id say it was more a broken heart.
stuffin sick of this bloke and hope they dump his sorry arse
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
I have an axe to grind here.
Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?
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I don't go to many but the ones I've been to, he's been there.
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
I have an axe to grind here.
Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?
NEEds to learn the defensive aspect of te sport
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
I have an axe to grind here.
Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?
Maybe McBean is as dumb as Mr Bean and can't follow the simple basics of footy you'd learn in juniors.
Or maybe he's always been a gun and now he's at punt road Tigeritis has set in and all his skill has been eroded, his ability has been extracted and all his natural awareness avulsed.
Or maybe it's that our development is still the worse in the league.
Or maybe FJ has just picked another dud.
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Maybe McBean is as dumb as Mr Bean and can't follow the simple basics of footy you'd learn in juniors.
Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....
So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies
Will add (again just from what I saw) he looked last, refused to chase, no 2nd efforts and many times refused to get to contest when he was less than 10 metres from the ball. So many times he was just standing spectating
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has he met KPI's set for him? Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
Pretty much answered your own question. He keeps doing the wrong thing despite what he has been taught so how could he possibly think he deserves a game and demand a trade for not getting one? He tries when it suits him and other than kicking goals he doesn't really want to do anything
Oh and I wouldn't call him a high draft pick. Pick 33 is very speculative
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So basically he played just like Vickery does most weeks then?
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:thumbsup
you wont get much of a reply to that statement
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:thumbsup
you wont get much of a reply to that statement
No worse actually, at least there is the odd moment where Ty will crash a pack, granted it's rare but McBean certainly didn't yesterday, he didn't go near many packs let alone crash them :snidegrin
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Yeah now tell us again how Chol's already gone past him.....
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Yeah now tell us again how Chol's already gone past him.....
I think you are confusing statements regarding work rate and overall performance. Liam's overall performance is much much better than Mabior's as one would expect at this stage of development. Where Mabior has been better is in his defensive efforts such as chasing and generally putting pressure on the opposition. In this area he has surpassed Liam already. So in a way you are both right.
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Maybe McBean is as dumb as Mr Bean and can't follow the simple basics of footy you'd learn in juniors.
Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....
So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies
Will add (again just from what I saw) he looked last, refused to chase, no 2nd efforts and many times refused to get to contest when he was less than 10 metres from the ball. So many times he was just standing spectating
Doesn't seem fit to me
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So basically he played just like Vickery does most weeks then?
Vickery is a soft peanut who doesn't crash packs either. Too busy trying to get it over the back which is something McBean actually has the qualities to do but go figure.
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
I have an axe to grind here.
Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?
I hear you, my comment is along the lines,
- of there was a strong wind blowing
- We're kicking into the wind and every kick is dropping 10 meters short.
- Liam leads to a position that would be a solid 2 kicks away. His opponent went to where the kick was going to land and helped kill the ball and overload us at the contest.
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
That aint coaching. That's just realization and doing the team thing. Providing an option for guys getting slammed. The body language of at least one senior coach was telling.
Having said that. At a contest a while later, he looks laconic, I'm berating him under my breathe, then he spins, taps a ground ball to himself, handballs through traffic and we kick a goal. He's 2 meters tall, and I sized him next to the two Ivan's, he's taller that Ivan snr and just shorter than Ivan junior and is better at ground ball work than half our mids. So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
And then he joins a ruck contest and taps well and to advantage.
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If that's all true HK, we need to find a way to get the best out of this lad.
Those qualities deserve serious game time at senior level
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Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.
I have an axe to grind here.
Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.
If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??
On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?
I hear you, my comment is along the lines,
- of there was a strong wind blowing
- We're kicking into the wind and every kick is dropping 10 meters short.
- Liam leads to a position that would be a solid 2 kicks away. His opponent went to where the kick was going to land and helped kill the ball and overload us at the contest.
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
That aint coaching. That's just realization and doing the team thing. Providing an option for guys getting slammed. The body language of at least one senior coach was telling.
Having said that. At a contest a while later, he looks laconic, I'm berating him under my breathe, then he spins, taps a ground ball to himself, handballs through traffic and we kick a goal. He's 2 meters tall, and I sized him next to the two Ivan's, he's taller that Ivan snr and just shorter than Ivan junior and is better at ground ball work than half our mids. So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
And then he joins a ruck contest and taps well and to advantage.
amazing how he does so well in the Jim 'Frosty' Miller Medal every year isnt it ?
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I guess if you're not good enough to play seniors you have more chances to win trophies in the twos.
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And then he joins a ruck contest and taps well and to advantage.
That alone makes him better than Vickery already....
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Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....
So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies
They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps :snidegrin
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Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....
So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies
They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps :snidegrin
I thought the weak ones were weeded out to the RFC! ;D
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Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....
So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies
They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps :snidegrin
I thought the weak ones were weeded out to the RFC! ;D
:snidegrin RFC let the best one go although he done his wing on Sarurday & will be out for some time ;D The other good ones go to other clubs like Collingwood, Hawthorn, so we are left with the trash :snidegrin
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0X0ZYbnHxA
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VFL Review - Round 1:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-12/vfl-review-round-1
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VFL Review - Round 1:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-12/vfl-review-round-1
He is fitting in well.... "They are reasons, not excuses"
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
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The VFL Report: Round 1
Brenton Mann, richmondfc.com.au
12 April 2016 5:24 PM
Richmond’s VFL coach Craig McRae provides an exclusive summary of the AFL-listed players who featured in last Sunday’s Round 1 loss to Williamstown.
Adam Marcon
24 disposals, 16 contested possessions, eight clearances
Adam continued his good form at this level. He led the team in clearances with eight, just driving out of contests. He’s really important for us and he’s ready for AFL opportunity when it presents.
Andrew Moore
24 disposals, 15 tackles, 16 contested possessions, seven clearances
Andrew played his best game for the club with 24 disposals, 15 tackles and seven clearances and also the way he went about it. He played as that big-bodied, strong midfielder and was important to us winning clearances on the day. It was a really good performance from him.
Taylor Hunt
23 disposals, ten handball receives, 13 uncontested possessions
Taylor continues to show great leadership at this level. He had a lot of the football, playing wing mainly; his ten handball receives was a highlight. He tried to get our game up and going. I thought he was important on the day.
Jason Castagna
17 disposals, two goals, nine contested possessions, nine tackles
He played mainly forward and didn’t impact the game at all in the first quarter, and then from quarter-time onwards, he was one of the main contributors keeping us competitive. He kept us in the game with his 17 disposals, nine tackles and two goals, and he showed everyone what he’s capable of with the drive in his legs out of a stoppage and looks AFL-ready.
Steve Morris
15 disposals, five tackles, seven contested and seven uncontested possessions
He’s such a competitor, and everyone can see that when you come and watch him play, and he’s an important role model for our younger players with his attack on the ball. He played off half-back and many times gave us great drive from there.
Jake Batchelor
12 disposals, eight marks, nine uncontested possessions
Jake played his best game in a number of weeks across half-back, directing and you can continually see his leadership on the field. Led the team with eight marks across the game, in what was an important step forward for his footy this year.
Ivan Maric
11 disposals, 16 hit-outs, nine contested possessions, five clearances
Ivan played his first game for the season, he played in the ruck and also played forward so 50 per cent in each position and only played three-quarters of the game. He looked like he was moving well, and was really important in the end in winning clearances with his big body and leadership around the ground.
Oleg Markov
11 disposals, eight uncontested possession, five tackles
Oleg played on a wing and wasn’t as influential as what he’s been in recent times. He ran really hard and has great athletic ability, and in difficult windy conditions, made it difficult to get the ball to him on the open side of the ground, but when we did we benefited from that.
Nathan Broad
Ten disposals, eight uncontested possessions, three uncontested marks
Nathan played across half-back, he hasn’t shown what he’s capable of as yet, but there’s little signs each week that he’s getting better. We need him to run harder when we’ve got the ball in hand and get on the end of those chains and defend fiercely when he’s down back as well.
Ivan Soldo
20 hit-outs, one goal, ten disposals, four clearances
Ivan showed he’s improving every week, he kicked a goal and had 20 hit-outs, and played ruck only. He competed fiercely in the contest with seven contested possessions. He’s certainly got some upside about him.
Mabior Chol
Nine disposals, eight uncontested possessions, four marks
He’s floating in and out of games at the moment. He’s finding it hard to have consistency of effort for four quarters. When he plays to his strengths, we’re better for it and we’ll continually look for him to be able to do it for longer periods.
Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Ben Griffiths
Five disposals, three tackles
Unfortunately he rolled his ankle early in the third quarter, but he had little impact up to that stage of the game. It was hard to judge his game due to injury.
Liam McBean
Two goals, five disposals, three contested possessions
He’s struggling a little bit with his form, we’re really asking him to get to more contests. He started the game on fire, with two goals against the breeze which really set us up for the day, but struggled to have an impact for the rest of the day.
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-12/the-vfl-report-round-1?camefrom=EMCL_1048323_40665727
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
And McBean is lazy. But why bother changing either of those things because that's the type of player they are ey?
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
And McBean is lazy. But why bother changing either of those things because that's the type of player they are ey?
cause one wins medals for numbers of goals kicked in the sport where the point is to kick goals called football
the other is a dime a dozen, soft, sideways kicking princess
its not a democracy captain planet
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
And McBean is lazy. But why bother changing either of those things because that's the type of player they are ey?
cause one wins medals for numbers of goals kicked in the sport where the point is to kick goals called football
the other is a dime a dozen, soft, sideways kicking princess
its not a democracy captain planet
Yep and why bother changing it ey?
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Richmond’s VFL coach Craig McRae's summary of the AFL-listed players who featured in last Sunday’s Round 1 loss to Williamstown:
Adam Marcon
24 disposals, 16 contested possessions, eight clearances
Adam continued his good form at this level. He led the team in clearances with eight, just driving out of contests. He’s really important for us and he’s ready for AFL opportunity when it presents.
Andrew Moore
24 disposals, 15 tackles, 16 contested possessions, seven clearances
Andrew played his best game for the club with 24 disposals, 15 tackles and seven clearances and also the way he went about it. He played as that big-bodied, strong midfielder and was important to us winning clearances on the day. It was a really good performance from him.
Taylor Hunt
23 disposals, ten handball receives, 13 uncontested possessions
Taylor continues to show great leadership at this level. He had a lot of the football, playing wing mainly; his ten handball receives was a highlight. He tried to get our game up and going. I thought he was important on the day.
Jason Castagna
17 disposals, two goals, nine contested possessions, nine tackles
He played mainly forward and didn’t impact the game at all in the first quarter, and then from quarter-time onwards, he was one of the main contributors keeping us competitive. He kept us in the game with his 17 disposals, nine tackles and two goals, and he showed everyone what he’s capable of with the drive in his legs out of a stoppage and looks AFL-ready.
Steve Morris
15 disposals, five tackles, seven contested and seven uncontested possessions
He’s such a competitor, and everyone can see that when you come and watch him play, and he’s an important role model for our younger players with his attack on the ball. He played off half-back and many times gave us great drive from there.
Jake Batchelor
12 disposals, eight marks, nine uncontested possessions
Jake played his best game in a number of weeks across half-back, directing and you can continually see his leadership on the field. Led the team with eight marks across the game, in what was an important step forward for his footy this year.
Ivan Maric
11 disposals, 16 hit-outs, nine contested possessions, five clearances
Ivan played his first game for the season, he played in the ruck and also played forward so 50 per cent in each position and only played three-quarters of the game. He looked like he was moving well, and was really important in the end in winning clearances with his big body and leadership around the ground.
Oleg Markov
11 disposals, eight uncontested possession, five tackles
Oleg played on a wing and wasn’t as influential as what he’s been in recent times. He ran really hard and has great athletic ability, and in difficult windy conditions, made it difficult to get the ball to him on the open side of the ground, but when we did we benefited from that.
Nathan Broad
Ten disposals, eight uncontested possessions, three uncontested marks
Nathan played across half-back, he hasn’t shown what he’s capable of as yet, but there’s little signs each week that he’s getting better. We need him to run harder when we’ve got the ball in hand and get on the end of those chains and defend fiercely when he’s down back as well.
Ivan Soldo
20 hit-outs, one goal, ten disposals, four clearances
Ivan showed he’s improving every week, he kicked a goal and had 20 hit-outs, and played ruck only. He competed fiercely in the contest with seven contested possessions. He’s certainly got some upside about him.
Mabior Chol
Nine disposals, eight uncontested possessions, four marks
He’s floating in and out of games at the moment. He’s finding it hard to have consistency of effort for four quarters. When he plays to his strengths, we’re better for it and we’ll continually look for him to be able to do it for longer periods.
Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Ben Griffiths
Five disposals, three tackles
Unfortunately he rolled his ankle early in the third quarter, but he had little impact up to that stage of the game. It was hard to judge his game due to injury.
Liam McBean
Two goals, five disposals, three contested possessions
He’s struggling a little bit with his form, we’re really asking him to get to more contests. He started the game on fire, with two goals against the breeze which really set us up for the day, but struggled to have an impact for the rest of the day.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-12/the-vfl-report-round-1
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- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy
Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt
Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals
Revolutionary, I know
Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?
not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
And McBean is lazy. But why bother changing either of those things because that's the type of player they are ey?
cause one wins medals for numbers of goals kicked in the sport where the point is to kick goals called football
the other is a dime a dozen, soft, sideways kicking princess
its not a democracy captain planet
The more relevant comparisons to McBean are Vickery & Griffiths....both lazy , unaccountable, soft, don't tackle, chase, apply defensive pressure or make second efforts, the latter doesn't even kick goals and it's not as if either are too skinny to be able to impose themselves physically, Vickery isn't anymore and Griffiths never was.........one is a walk up start, the other is a regular who's been given numerous chances....all while McBean rots in the VFL because he has to "learn" the same things those two clearly still haven't either and at their ages probably never will....
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The more relevant comparisons to McBean are Vickery & Griffiths....both lazy , unaccountable, soft, don't tackle, chase, apply defensive pressure or make second efforts, the latter doesn't even kick goals and it's not as if either are too skinny to be able to impose themselves physically, Vickery isn't anymore and Griffiths never was.........one is a walk up start, the other is a regular who's been given numerous chances....all while McBean rots in the VFL because he has to "learn" the same things those two clearly still haven't either and at their ages probably never will....
That is true but I don't know how Judge rates these players so I chose one I know he doesn't. Saying that, I don't buy into the applying pressure as much but more so just getting to contests which at this stage Vickery does much more than McBean, hell even Griff does
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Steve Morris
15 disposals, five tackles, seven contested and seven uncontested possessions
7+7=15?
Ben Griffiths[/b]
Five disposals, three tackles
Unfortunately he rolled his ankle early in the third quarter, but he had little impact up to that stage of the game. It was hard to judge his game due to injury.
I think half a game is plenty to form a judgement...
Liam McBean
we’re really asking him to get to more contests.
Sums it up
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Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Is this a polite way of saying Elton Struggled!...?
Poor kid actually could mark a footy until he landed at punt road.
I wonder if Craig thinks he's a complete dud and just has to be nice in his player assessments.
It doesn't matter though, we will probably keep him for another 5 years anyway just so FJ doesn't look like he wasted another round 1 pick.
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Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Is this a polite way of saying Elton Struggled!...?
Poor kid actually could mark a footy until he landed at punt road.
I wonder if Craig thinks he's a complete dud and just has to be nice in his player assessments.
It doesn't matter though, we will probably keep him for another 5 years anyway just so FJ doesn't look like he wasted another round 1 pick.
Pick 26 in the 2011 draft.
He is one that gets forgotten about. Been on the list 5 years and done/shown SFA.
Bloody BH! He must be to blame some how.
And the Bulldogs pick up Marcus Adams at pick 35 in last years draft and is already twice the player Elton is.
It's no wonder our list has more holes than "Four floors of Whores" on NYE.
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Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Is this a polite way of saying Elton Struggled!...?
Poor kid actually could mark a footy until he landed at punt road.
I wonder if Craig thinks he's a complete dud and just has to be nice in his player assessments.
It doesn't matter though, we will probably keep him for another 5 years anyway just so FJ doesn't look like he wasted another round 1 pick.
2nd round pick. But whatever the sky is falling
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Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Is this a polite way of saying Elton Struggled!...?
Poor kid actually could mark a footy until he landed at punt road.
I wonder if Craig thinks he's a complete dud and just has to be nice in his player assessments.
It doesn't matter though, we will probably keep him for another 5 years anyway just so FJ doesn't look like he wasted another round 1 pick.
2nd round pick. But whatever the sky is falling
I checked, it's definitely listed as a first round pick.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_drafts?year=2011&t=N&s=P
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yeah yeah inb4 someone tells me it was more like a 3rd rounder because of GWS.
even those rookies are better than our draft selections.
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to confirm from RFC Website:
Todd Elton
Draft history: 2011 AFL Draft 1st round selection (Richmond) No. 26 overall.
From:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/todd-elton
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To be honest though, it is only a "technical" first rounder. At pick 26 you are really just the 26th picked player and so that usually classifies you as a second rounder in most years. Just because one team had a lot of picks early on and makes this pick fall into the first round doesn't alter the fact he was thought of as the 26th best player in that draft by our football department.
I really think Todd has suffered by being played in the seconds consistently and never fast tracked like others in the firsts. When he has played he has been crucified by being matched up with the best player in the opposition side.
That was totally stupid by our (lack of) brains trust. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Aye
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It actually shows how pointless it is use the term 1st, 2nd etc rounder.
there is a big difference between 26 and 6, but using these terms make them sound similar.
I know it suits the emos to do this, but in most years pick 26 would be a 2nd rounder, often not even an early one, but lets get pedantic and argue that in this particular year it is a first rounder so that the pick is somehow more valuable than in a year the same pick is a mid second rounder.
:wallywink
Picks over 20 go at a success rate of about 30% regardless of at what pick the first team gets their second selection
:wallywink
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Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions
Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.
Is this a polite way of saying Elton Struggled!...?
Poor kid actually could mark a footy until he landed at punt road.
I wonder if Craig thinks he's a complete dud and just has to be nice in his player assessments.
It doesn't matter though, we will probably keep him for another 5 years anyway just so FJ doesn't look like he wasted another round 1 pick.
2nd round pick. But whatever the sky is falling
I checked, it's definitely listed as a first round pick.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_drafts?year=2011&t=N&s=P
Don't care what they say, pick 26 should not be classed as a 1st rounder :lol