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Title: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: one-eyed on April 08, 2016, 11:40:52 PM
Injured Tiger may have been the answer to stopping star Crow

Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
8 April 2016


INJURED Richmond defender Dylan Grimes has left the Tigers in a quandary as they plot how to shut down in-form small forward Eddie Betts in Saturday's clash at Etihad Stadium.

Grimes, who will miss two weeks after another hamstring injury, would have been the Tigers' most likely match-up for Betts, who hit red-hot form in round two with five goals against Port Adelaide.

His absence leaves the Tigers' match committee in a tough position as they weigh up a number of options, including the left-field choice of key defender Alex Rance.

It has not been uncommon in recent seasons for opposition clubs to pit one of their tall defenders against Betts, given his proficiency in the air (he rated elite last year for contested marks and took 56 grabs inside 50).

The difficulty for Richmond, however, is by moving their All Australian key defender onto Betts, they are automatically weakened in match-ups against tall forwards Tom Lynch (six goals in round two), Josh Jenkins (five) and Taylor Walker (two).

One opposition scout spoken to by AFL.com.au viewed the Rance match-up on Betts as a long shot because of the way he likes to hang off his opponents and help teammates.

"He did that last week against Collingwood but he couldn't do that against Betts, so he'd have to change the way he plays from one week to the next," the scout said.

The negative implications from Grimes's injury in the first quarter of last Friday night's loss to Collingwood couldn't have come quicker.

Without their first-choice match-up for small forward Alex Fasolo, the Tigers looked to Nick Vlastuin to play a lockdown role.

A number of other players rotated on Fasolo, but none for more than 10 minutes in total, with the 23-year-old kicking six goals in a match-winning hand.

When it comes to Betts, the Tigers didn't have a set match-up for the 2015 All Australian last season, with five players each spending between 10 and 20 minutes opposed to him in round 19.

Vlastuin was one of those players, as were Troy Chaplin, who has been named this week, and Jake Batchelor, who is yet to play this season.

Steven Morris didn't play that match (he was an emergency) ending a long rivalry with Betts, and he has been overlooked again this week.

According to Champion Data, from 2013-2014 Morris played on Betts for about 80 per cent of each of the four games they played.

The former Blue kicked seven goals across those four games, but shapes as an even more dangerous threat on Saturday against a backline that will be stretched.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-08/injured-richmond-defender-has-left-tigers-in-a-quandary-as-they-plot-how-to-stop-eddie-betts
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: big tone on April 09, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
Morris should be playing IMO.
Tell him to lock on to Betts and there is one we wouldn't have to worry about. 7 goals in 4 games speaks for itself. You would be happy to concede him less than 2 today.

And on the flip side it would release Vlastuin to be more attacking on the way out.

Match ups should have been IMO

Astbury on Jenkins
Rance on Walker
McIntosh on Lynch
Morris on Betts

Leaving Chaplin on McGoven and 3 rd man up in contests and Houli and Vlastuin as options running the ball out.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 09, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
If we keep Betts on a short leash, we are big chance to win the game.
I personally think we will pull our finger out today and have a victory

If they do let him loose in the game (particularly) in the first quarter then he will set the tone for the Crows
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 09, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
Som much depth.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 09, 2016, 11:53:00 AM
7 years to build, recruit, develop, train and advance.

Still no one to play on small fwds.
Still no small fwd of our own.
Diabolical ruck situation.
No genuine tagger.

And the depth of a toddlers pool.


Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 09, 2016, 11:54:11 AM
And a total lack of cohesion amongst the midfielders.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 09, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
And fwd line
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 09, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
The funniest thing is Morris has previously been cut to shreds by Betts (to the point where Betts toyed with him) yet posters believe he is the best option.

And sadly they are right.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 09, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
Well done list managers, recruiters and the development team.  :clapping

Stuffing incompetent behind holes

Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 09, 2016, 12:08:28 PM
The funniest thing is Morris has previously been cut to shreds by Betts (to the point where Betts toyed with him) yet posters believe he is the best option.

And sadly they are right.
He has kicked a total of 7 goals in 4 games I believe. Hardly toying I would have thought.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 12:09:02 PM
Dea
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 09, 2016, 12:49:32 PM
LMFAO off at some of you saying that Morris should have come back in.....really?? Why not Kellaway. Or we could get Vlastuin to actually stand up and nail Betts. Morris is not the answer.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 09, 2016, 12:59:16 PM
Lmao

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/E/Eddie_Betts.html

Betts

R1 2012 - 2 goals 3 and 2 goal assists.
R18 2012 - 4 goals 1
R1 2013 - 2 goals 0 (carrying an injury)
R21 2013 - 3 goal assists (carrying an injury)
EF 2013 - 3 goals 2 and a goal assist
R21 2014 - 2 goals 0

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/S/Steven_Morris.html

Morris
R1 2012 - 9 disposals 2 tackles
R18 2012 - 9 disposals 1 tackle
R1 2013 - 7 disposals 1 tackle
R21 2013 - 15 disposals 1 tackle
EF 2013 - 5 disposals 1 tackle
R18 2014 - 13 disposals 0 tackle


Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 09, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
^^^....yep, tale of the tape.
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
Goode rance smashes him

Little turd face
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 03:00:45 PM
I like him a lot more since he left Carlton

Gun
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: tony_montana on April 09, 2016, 03:10:04 PM
Hasn't worked kicked 2 set up 2 in 1 and a half qtrs
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 09, 2016, 03:10:42 PM
I like him a lot more since he left Carlton

Gun

Over paid. Not worth 550, just like Hurley, Hooker, Treloar aren't worth 700 plus
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: tony_montana on April 09, 2016, 03:11:33 PM
Definitely worth 550k
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 03:12:00 PM
I like him a lot more since he left Carlton

Gun

Over paid. Not worth 550, just like Hurley, Hooker, Treloar aren't worth 700 plus

How good is short?

Phhhhhow

Money ball
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Definitely worth 550k

Oooo yeh
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 09, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
Definitely worth 550k

Def not- 350 max

We can't have players paid near Cotch, Lids, Jack
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 04:05:26 PM
Trelor isn't even that good really
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: tony_montana on April 09, 2016, 04:08:14 PM
Yep he's not

Angus 350k is the average wage  now, salary cap has increased significantly
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 09, 2016, 04:13:05 PM
Trelor isn't even that good really

We are about equality at punt road. That's what happens when you have a female president
Treloar Betts  are average- can't you see that  :banghead

Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Lozza on April 09, 2016, 04:13:23 PM
Who is actually on Betts?
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: tony_montana on April 09, 2016, 04:14:16 PM
Range first half

Houli 3rd qtr

Going to get ugly now
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: Stalin on April 09, 2016, 04:46:11 PM
Griggy and betts are good mate

How cute

Good to see grigg havin a laugh and a giggle  :)

Everybody love everybody please
Title: Re: Who plays on Betts?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 09, 2016, 05:34:16 PM
Griggy and betts are good mate

How cute

Good to see grigg havin a laugh and a giggle  :)

Everybody love everybody please

Grigg and Lids are good mates too. One thing they share in common is they don't like taking pay cuts when asked.  Especially Grigg.