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Title: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
INS: more than the outs

OUTS: could be none

 ;D

Details soon
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 21, 2016, 06:25:38 PM
In: Deledio, Maric, Morris, Miles, Batchelor

Out: Moore, Vlastuin

https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2016, 06:28:09 PM
The Round 5 Richmond squad

B:  Astbury, Rance, B. Ellis
HB:  Deledio, Houli, C. Ellis
C:  Grigg, McIntosh, Menadue
HF:  Lambert, Martin, Rioli
F:  Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery
R:  Hampson, Edwards, Cotchin
IC from:  Batchelor, Chaplin, Hunt, Lennon, Maric, Miles, Morris

In:  Deledio, Batchelor, Maric, Miles, Morris
Out:  Vlastuin (injured – leg), Moore

From
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-21/round-5-team-announcement
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 21, 2016, 06:28:46 PM
Wow....locked and loaded now ::)
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 06:30:44 PM
In: Deledio, Maric, Morris, Miles, Batchelor

Out: Moore, Vlastuin

https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
:sleep
Play George and McBean you DHead.
Wasn't going to go on Sunday but was starting to have second thoughts but not now.
Not going until things change.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Chuck17 on April 21, 2016, 06:34:38 PM
Well I'm sure the RFC are the worse for that
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 06:35:34 PM
BElllis, Houli, Grigg and Hampson. You have got to be kidding Dimma.
You will cut your own contract short relying on these insipid duds.

Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: tony_montana on April 21, 2016, 06:35:57 PM
I want to see a side that contains both Morris and hunt  :cheers


Edit: and Hampson
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 06:39:57 PM
Well I'm sure the RFC are the worse for that
I'm sure they will be, when I stop buying memberships for the family.
The club is taking more than a small step backwards IMO.

Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 21, 2016, 06:43:08 PM
It their elimination final, guys.Be nice.  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 21, 2016, 06:46:16 PM
We are building towards our next premiership..........in the VFL.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 21, 2016, 06:48:00 PM
We are building towards our next premiership..........in the VFL.
Why no mcbean, dimma is a total tool
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 21, 2016, 06:48:33 PM
Team selection is beyond a joke.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
Stability in mediocrity...... :banghead
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 1965 on April 21, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
Continuity and Change

 :lol
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WA Tiger on April 21, 2016, 07:05:19 PM
I want to see a side that contains both Morris and hunt  :cheers


Edit: and Hampson

And Batchelor.......

This club.... :lol

Look at the Dee's in's ......... Depth right there!!!!
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WA Tiger on April 21, 2016, 07:07:02 PM
Well I'm sure the RFC are the worse for that
I'm sure they will be, when I stop buying memberships for the family.
The club is taking more than a small step backwards IMO.

Luckily the club is bigger than a few numpties

Yeah great to see the few numpties that are actually delusional to think we are doing ok!!!
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 21, 2016, 07:07:27 PM
oh look we need blokes who are experienced....at being shyte....
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WA Tiger on April 21, 2016, 07:09:32 PM
No McBean, Short, Castagna.... Still reeking of a poo coach trying to save his job!!! Terry Wallace era again..... :bow
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 21, 2016, 07:10:22 PM
The Dees are going to debut Petracca.

Melbourne squad for round five

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Tomas Bugg
HB: Lynden Dunn, Heritier Lumumba, Christian Salem
C: Bernie Vince, Dom Tyson, Josh Wagner
HF: Jack Watts, Sam Frost, James Harmes
F: Dean Kent, Jesse Hogan, Angus Brayshaw
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney

I/C (from): Christian Petracca, Colin Garland, Cameron Pedersen, Jayden Hunt, Alex Neal-Bullen, Ben Kennedy, Jeff Garlett

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-04-21/vince-among-five-inclusions-in-squad
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 07:10:58 PM
No Short?

His "bad" game against Adelaide included 11 disposals. After a glorious 5 disposals Vickery is picked again.


How does that work? :rollin
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: cub on April 21, 2016, 07:17:59 PM
Hamspud still in yfk
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 07:21:43 PM
At least Hampson has stopped opposition rucks dominating centre bounces. Unfortunately it's small things like kicking, hand balling, marking, blocking, shepherding and general football nous that he is lacking in.

Too bad this isn't American football where we could whip him off and just have him in for his tap work....
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: tdy on April 21, 2016, 07:22:58 PM
The Dees are going to debut Petracca.

Melbourne squad for round five

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Tomas Bugg
HB: Lynden Dunn, Heritier Lumumba, Christian Salem
C: Bernie Vince, Dom Tyson, Josh Wagner
HF: Jack Watts, Sam Frost, James Harmes
F: Dean Kent, Jesse Hogan, Angus Brayshaw
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney

I/C (from): Christian Petracca, Colin Garland, Cameron Pedersen, Jayden Hunt, Alex Neal-Bullen, Ben Kennedy, Jeff Garlett

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-04-21/vince-among-five-inclusions-in-squad

That's not a poo side anymore
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: wayne on April 21, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
Hardwick trying to save his job, brings in Morris  :lol

He'll be getting the bullet sooner rather than later  :pray
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on April 21, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
No surprises with Vlastuin, I have it on good authority he's been injured since the Pies game.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
No surprises with Vlastuin, I have it on good authority he's been injured since the Pies game.
That makes sense as he has been unusually bad the last couple of weeks. Especially last week, it was his worst game for a while.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:05:36 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 08:09:10 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.
Yer that pretty much sums it up in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 08:19:45 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:57:12 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.

You can't expect to play guys who aren't up to it and expect to win either.......

Why not play George instead of Hunt? One has peaked and is mediocre while the other has youthful enthusiasm and can improve with experience.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 21, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
At least Hampson has stopped opposition rucks dominating centre bounces. Unfortunately it's small things like kicking, hand balling, marking, blocking, shepherding and general football nous that he is lacking in.

Too bad this isn't American football where we could whip him off and just have him in for his tap work....
Sorry i have been hanging for tbis comment and it has to be said, there are only 2 sticks hampson can put it through, MG
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 21, 2016, 09:34:05 PM
The Dees are going to debut Petracca.


Will be good for him to get the Gatorade shower out of the way after his first game......
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. 
Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 09:56:45 PM
The Dees are going to debut Petracca.


Will be good for him to get the Gatorade shower out of the way after his first game......
Roos said he will only play if Jeff Gartlett doesn't come up. :shh
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 21, 2016, 09:57:52 PM
Roos says a lot of things.... :shh
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2016, 10:03:22 PM
Can't see both Batchelor and Morris playing

Batchelor is likely, straight replacement for Vlastuin I would have thought

Will reserve any other judgement until we see the final line up tomorrow at around 5pm  ;D
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 10:13:46 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. 
Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.

So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 10:28:36 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. 
Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.

So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.
A side should always be improving its list. You should always be replacing players that won't win you a flag with youth that might. If you don't, you'll never win one.
Hunt won't help win us a flag. Geelong already realized he could not help them. Why do we think he'll help us win one?
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Andyy on April 21, 2016, 11:14:50 PM
Would be happy for Morris to come in if Garlett plays.

Glad Batchelor is playing. Gave Redpath a towelling last week, considerably outsized.

Lids, Maric and Miles essential. Good ins generally.



Interested to see Petracca. I remember him kicking 18 goals in a high school match back at WFC when he was about 13 and we had him picked then lmao
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2016, 11:40:53 PM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. 
Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.

So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.
Call it what you like but we need to replace guys that cannot take us any further than we have been. Grigg, Houli, Hunt and Hampson all will not take us any further. Play some more kids and find out whether they can. Castagna, McBean and Small have all earned that right IMO.  And all 3 could play this round and be as good as or better than those 4 I named.
A decent game plan would be the best "in" of the week though.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 22, 2016, 12:00:56 AM
Looking forward hopefully to seeing a side with
Jack
Lids
Cotch
Martin
Rance
Yarran
Maric
Grimes
A fit Miles
A fit Edwards

Along with kids like
Rioli
Menadue
C.Ellis
McIntosh
Castagna
Lloyd
Lambert
McBean

And hopefully
C.Moore
Chol



Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: eliminator on April 22, 2016, 06:50:42 AM
Again this game looks like being lost at the selection table. Failure to bring in McBean, Short and Castagna shows a lack of creativity by the club. Keeping Hunt and Grigg in the side is a backward step.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: eliminator on April 22, 2016, 06:57:28 AM
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... :whistle

Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.

Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds".  :huh

Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc.

It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
You raised the very point I was making!
Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.

Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?

Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. 
Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.

So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.
Call it what you like but we need to replace guys that cannot take us any further than we have been. Grigg, Houli, Hunt and Hampson all will not take us any further. Play some more kids and find out whether they can. Castagna, McBean and Small have all earned that right IMO.  And all 3 could play this round and be as good as or better than those 4 I named.
A decent game plan would be the best "in" of the week though.

Agree with BT. Take the example of Grigg. He is not going to get any better. There is no upside. His form this year has been very poor. To move forward you need to take chances. What message is being sent to the side when certain players are being kept in the side whose form does not merit their retention in the side.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 22, 2016, 07:35:25 AM
At least team selection are bringing this forum together.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 22, 2016, 12:26:02 PM
Hampson out with injury.

Townsend added to 25 man squad.

Source: Twitter.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Simonator on April 22, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
So now its obviously maric for Hampson. Who comes in for
Vlastuin and Moore ? My guess is miles and Batchelor.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: mat073 on April 22, 2016, 12:40:42 PM
Not a great start for Andrew Moore.....one game and dumped.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Stalin on April 22, 2016, 12:43:31 PM
Welcome to Richmond
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2016, 01:18:08 PM
So now its obviously maric for Hampson. Who comes in for
Vlastuin and Moore ? My guess is miles and Batchelor.

Yep, that's what I reckon
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 22, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
Welcome to Richmond

 :lol
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Yeahright on April 22, 2016, 03:39:47 PM
Hampson out with injury.

Townsend added to 25 man squad.

Source: Twitter.

Gee wiz I thought that Hampson would have been out but was not surprised they named in and then thought they intended to play him :gobdrop. At least they've done one thing right
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Yeahright on April 22, 2016, 05:17:57 PM
An update on Richmond's selection games, five changes have been confirmed for Sunday night's crunch game against the Demons.

IN: Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric, Anthony Miles, Steven Morris, Jake Batchelor
OUT: Shaun Hampson, Andrew Moore, Taylor Hunt, Nick Vlastuin, Ben Lennon

From AFL site
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 22, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
Knew it - Ben "yoyo" Lennon, Derwood's favourite fall guy.....keep working on that defensive accountabilty back in the magoos Benny.....because you won't learn it playing alongside Ty, Brandon, Shaun and Bachar....
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: TigerLand on April 22, 2016, 05:43:20 PM
We wonder why development at Richmond never seems as rich as other clubs.

Vlastiun and Lennon perfect cases. Vlastiun been forced to play dribbler back pocket role after being a gun junior midfielder. Lennon classy skilled player been thrown around from forward to back to VFL to AFL back to VFL.

Absolute disgrace. On what planet. What planet does Morris warrant a game over Lennon. Why make the change. Let's watch Morris get another 5 possession game.

Anyone remember Lennon being a great half forward target who was used as a hold up player last year. They would kick to him often 2 on 1 and he'd always make a contest more often than not causing a stoppage or winning the ball. Worked so effectively. Why aren't we using him like that anymore?

Joke of a selection once again. Does Dimma want a payout?
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on April 22, 2016, 05:46:41 PM
Seriously
Lennon was terrible last week
Morris back to do the job on Garlett
End of story
Don't like it , go and barrack for another club
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 22, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
Seriously
Lennon was terrible last week
Morris back to do the job on Garlett
End of story
Don't like it , go and barrack for another club

Really?
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Yeahright on April 22, 2016, 06:01:21 PM
Seriously
Lennon was terrible last week
Morris back to do the job on Garlett
End of story
Don't like it , go and barrack for another club

Lennon was still one of our better players considering the shambles we were
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: wayne on April 22, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
The only job Morris does is on us supporters
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: tony_montana on April 22, 2016, 07:17:14 PM
I can accept Morris for Hunt if Morris is going to play on Garlett, I agree with BT in that he was and still is, by a fair way, our best (and only small defender). But if he's not going to play him in a lockdown down role then I must ask wtf is going on down there with the weekly musical chairs between hunt and Morris?

Play hunt as a tagger and forget this ridiculous notion that he can offer us more, he can't.... and right now he's also lost his edge as a tagger, bring it back or pee him off, he's useless.

Morris, small lockdown defender, still a place for one in footy today, play him there with one  goal - stop his opponent, if we don't intend to do that then fho too.  Enough with the rubbish selections and positional interplay derwood, stick to the basics and don't try and reinvent the wheel too much, especially when it comes to making limited players play beyond their abilities.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: lamington on April 22, 2016, 07:26:38 PM
Yeah I think Morris is only brought in to play a nullifying role on Garlett. We probably could have used him last week against Eddie so Rance isn't stretched as thin.

I am hoping Rance keeps Hogan goalless this time around and of course we get the 4 points without Deledio having a season ending injury
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on April 22, 2016, 07:28:45 PM
Seriously
Lennon was terrible last week
Morris back to do the job on Garlett
End of story
Don't like it , go and barrack for another club

Lennon was still one of our better players considering the shambles we were

You blokes must watch a different game to me
Plays unaccountable football
Thus he got dropped
End of story
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2016, 07:33:26 PM
Seriously
Lennon was terrible last week
Morris back to do the job on Garlett
End of story
Don't like it , go and barrack for another club

Lennon was still one of our better players considering the shambles we were

You blokes must watch a different game to me
Plays unaccountable football
Thus he got dropped
End of story

Not arguing the points you make Jack but and this is my issue, plenty of others do the same thing and never get dropped.

Throw in the fact Hardwick said 2 weeks ago we needed to play him to give games and experience

Plenty of blokes were putrid last week and deserve the flick but never get flicked

It's the lack of consistency in the rules seemingly being applied
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: TigerMonk on April 22, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
An update on Richmond's selection games, five changes have been confirmed for Sunday night's crunch game against the Demons.

IN: Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric, Anthony Miles, Steven Morris, Jake Batchelor
OUT: Shaun Hampson, Andrew Moore, Taylor Hunt, Nick Vlastuin, Ben Lennon

From AFL site

Moore was never ready, Hampson injured every game, Hunt = pathetic, Vlaustin l'm surprised but he will comeback strong & Lennon will learn what he has to do. Happy with all the Ins. Let see how the backline stands up now with Jake back in there


 :gotigers
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 22, 2016, 09:27:22 PM
Yeah Lennon will learn what he has to do by watching all those inspirational hard workers who are permanent fixtures in the senior side like Vickery, B.Ellis, Grigg & Houli.  Hell, if he works as hard as them he might even be given the captaincy, play 260-odd matches and receive a guard of honour at the end of it all like Newman...
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Stalin on April 22, 2016, 09:29:37 PM
Lennon vlastuin McBean playing reserves

Well done mr hardwick. Well done. 
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Chuck17 on April 22, 2016, 09:30:11 PM
Strongest side we fielded all year

Get around them boys
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Diocletian on April 22, 2016, 09:32:39 PM
Strong of course being another word for odourous...
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 23, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Yeah Lennon will learn what he has to do by watching all those inspirational hard workers who are permanent fixtures in the senior side like Vickery, B.Ellis, Grigg & Houli.

Well put.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 23, 2016, 10:57:48 AM
Lennon vlastuin McBean playing reserves

Well done mr hardwick. Well done.

lol
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 23, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
Lennon vlastuin McBean playing reserves

Well done mr hardwick. Well done.
Vlastuin is injured and so is not playing. Even Lennon may not play as he is a back up for Lids in case he doesn't come up. :shh
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 23, 2016, 04:05:25 PM
Townsend isn't playing today, not sure where he's at?
Title: Deledio set to line up against Demons (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
Deledio set to line up against Demons

AFL.com.au
23 April 2016


RICHMOND star Brett Deledio has trained strongly on Saturday morning and is set to play against Melbourne on Sunday night at the MCG.

Deledio, 29, has been struggling with a quadriceps injury that has prevented him from playing this season.

The training session the day before a game is typically light and this was no different.

The two-time All Australian participated in kicking drills before the team practised its ball movement over the full ground.

He finished by taking shots at goal. Deledio's longest kick for the session was about 45m and he took part in the whole session.

His unusual injury meant he could run long before he was able to kick. He eventually progressed to kicking with a child-sized football before beginning to use a full-sized Sherrin last weekend.

The first player drafted in 2004, Deledio's pre-season was also hampered by a calf injury. He only made it on to the field for Richmond's final NAB Challenge game against Port Adelaide.

He was named in a back pocket against the Demons but coach Damien Hardwick told reporters on Thursday Deledio needed to get through training before a final decision would be made on his fitness.

The Tigers have struggled without the dual best and fairest, falling to 1-3 from four games this season.

It takes their historical record without Deledio since his debut in round one, 2005 to an unflattering three wins from 17 games – a success rate of just 17.6 per cent.

Richmond won 15 games in 2015 before being knocked out in the first round of finals for the third successive year by eventual preliminary finalists North Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-23/deledio-set-to-line-up-against-demons-
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Townsend isn't playing today, not sure where he's at?
Didn't he cop a couple of corkies in the same spot on his thigh? Dimma said they didn't want Townsend to cop another hit to the same spot on the thigh.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 23, 2016, 07:41:02 PM
Townsend isn't playing today, not sure where he's at?
Didn't he cop a couple of corkies in the same spot on his thigh? Dimma said they didn't want Townsend to cop another hit to the same spot on the thigh.

Yes but he was named in the VFL side on Thursday so I just assumed he would have played.


Richmond VFL squad           

B:   65. R Gale          43. T Elton          36. C Moore

HB: 51. S Darley       35. N Broad        46. J Castagna

C:  44. A Marcon     21. J Townsend     54. J Ballard

HF: 45. J Short         40. D Butler        31. O Markov

F:   41. M Chol        34. L McBean        24. B Griffiths

R:  47. I Soldo      73. T Couch       15. A Moore

Int: 25. T Chaplin, 28. T Hunt, 58. J Aarts, 74. T Kruse, 38. S Morris, 11. J Batchelor, 52. A Scott, 26. A Miles, 67. L Conca, 80. A Forato, 71. N Mellington, 7. B Lennon

23P: 64. T Silvestro

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=43031965
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: big tone on April 23, 2016, 07:56:05 PM
Townsend isn't playing today, not sure where he's at?
Didn't he cop a couple of corkies in the same spot on his thigh? Dimma said they didn't want Townsend to cop another hit to the same spot on the thigh.

Yes but he was named in the VFL side on Thursday so I just assumed he would have played.


Richmond VFL squad           

B:   65. R Gale          43. T Elton          36. C Moore

HB: 51. S Darley       35. N Broad        46. J Castagna

C:  44. A Marcon     21. J Townsend     54. J Ballard

HF: 45. J Short         40. D Butler        31. O Markov

F:   41. M Chol        34. L McBean        24. B Griffiths

R:  47. I Soldo      73. T Couch       15. A Moore

Int: 25. T Chaplin, 28. T Hunt, 58. J Aarts, 74. T Kruse, 38. S Morris, 11. J Batchelor, 52. A Scott, 26. A Miles, 67. L Conca, 80. A Forato, 71. N Mellington, 7. B Lennon

23P: 64. T Silvestro

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=43031965
How can our twos side not have one genuine AFL midfielder in it? How is that even possible?
Does anyone think there is one out of that lot that played today?
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Stalin on April 23, 2016, 08:06:03 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Yeahright on April 23, 2016, 11:05:14 PM
Townsend isn't playing today, not sure where he's at?
Didn't he cop a couple of corkies in the same spot on his thigh? Dimma said they didn't want Townsend to cop another hit to the same spot on the thigh.

Yes but he was named in the VFL side on Thursday so I just assumed he would have played.


Richmond VFL squad           

B:   65. R Gale          43. T Elton          36. C Moore

HB: 51. S Darley       35. N Broad        46. J Castagna

C:  44. A Marcon     21. J Townsend     54. J Ballard

HF: 45. J Short         40. D Butler        31. O Markov

F:   41. M Chol        34. L McBean        24. B Griffiths

R:  47. I Soldo      73. T Couch       15. A Moore

Int: 25. T Chaplin, 28. T Hunt, 58. J Aarts, 74. T Kruse, 38. S Morris, 11. J Batchelor, 52. A Scott, 26. A Miles, 67. L Conca, 80. A Forato, 71. N Mellington, 7. B Lennon

23P: 64. T Silvestro

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=43031965
How can our twos side not have one genuine AFL midfielder in it? How is that even possible?
Does anyone think there is one out of that lot that played today?

What's your definition of genuine? If you care about quality then nope. If you don't then maybe Marcon and maybe Moore only because he can't actually play anywhere else
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Stalin on April 24, 2016, 05:01:24 PM
The Round 5 Richmond squad

B:  Astbury, Rance, B. Ellis
HB:  Deledio, Houli, C. Ellis
C:  Grigg, McIntosh, Menadue
HF:  Lambert, Martin, Rioli
F:  Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery
R:  Hampson, Edwards, Cotchin
IC from:  Batchelor, Chaplin, Hunt, Lennon, Maric, Miles, Morris

In:  Deledio, Batchelor, Maric, Miles, Morris
Out:  Vlastuin (injured – leg), Moore

From
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-21/round-5-team-announcement

Doubts on b Ellis long term future as an afl defender

Houli named at CHB is alarming and humorous

 And midfield and bench containing grigg Hampson Chaplin hunt is rather frightening

One again the bottom six looks problematic in the short term and long
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 24, 2016, 05:48:13 PM
Lids out
Can anyone confirm
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: The Machine on April 24, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
Yep out Townsend in
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Penelope on April 24, 2016, 06:00:41 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2016, 06:07:46 PM
All over Twitter

lids out

Townsend in
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2016, 06:07:59 PM
Oh Geez
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Stalin on April 24, 2016, 06:11:48 PM
Good news

Lids > rich v melbourne
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: torch on April 24, 2016, 06:15:24 PM
Why not Lennon!

Dhead Hardwick ...
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2016, 06:21:12 PM
Why not Lennon!

Dhead Hardwick ...

Exactly.
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Penelope on April 24, 2016, 06:32:22 PM
didnt lennon get cleaned up and not return to the field in the second half yesterday?
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2016, 06:34:35 PM
didnt lennon get cleaned up and not return to the field in the second half yesterday?
I think so
Title: Re: Official Tigers Team -v- Melbourne Rd 5
Post by: Yeahright on April 25, 2016, 05:54:10 PM
didnt lennon get cleaned up and not return to the field in the second half yesterday?

Yep but I'm not sure if that was a pre-arranged thing (only playing a half) or if it was cause of injury