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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 03, 2016, 04:31:52 AM
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Tigers should trade Deledio
Mark Robinson
Herald-Sun
May 3, 2016
THE question at Richmond is: What happens now?
Do they tank — sorry, list manage — and begin the long road back?
Apparently not. They are 1-5 and holding course this year, according to the office holders at Punt Rd.
But what happens if they are 1-7 after playing Hawthorn and Sydney in the next two rounds?
Or 1-8 after Fremantle at Fremantle in Round 9?
Still hold course? The answer has to be “no”.
As much as the Tigers can’t be drastic with their public utterances, their fans deserve to know what strategy will be pursued.
Chief executive Brendon Gale told the Herald Sun the Tigers could still play finals in 2016.
Gale’s dig-in, that players need to learn to win, deserves credit. But arguably he and others at Richmond are in denial.
The team is maxed out. Most of the well-discussed trades such as Troy Chaplin have reached their ceiling and most of the young draftees are still making their way.
A decision on coach Damien Hardwick is irrelevant. He was appointed for two more years so we can park him.
No, it’s about the list.
The only strategies available to improve the list are: go to the draft table, trade or acquire free agents.
They need to be bold with their trading.
To acquire more first-round draft choices, the Tigers have to entertain trading away one of Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance, Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin and Shane Edwards.
A first-rounder for Edwards? They rate him highly internally, but don’t know if a club would cough up a first-rounder.
Riewoldt is 27. Rance is 27. Edwards is 27. Martin is 24. And Deledio is 29.
If they want to break up the band, the obvious call is on Deledio.
At 233 games he is the longest-serving player on the list, so it would be an emotional decision. He is a high walk-up first-rounder, though.
Teams chasing a flag would love him: Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and Hawthorn, for they seem to be the line for everyone.
It might get the Tigers two picks inside the top 10 at this year’s draft, which is a start.
St Kilda was bold with Ben McEvoy (in return got Luke Dunstan and Shane Savage), Rhys Stanley (Hugh Goddard), Brendon Goddard (pick 13 on traded to get Tom Hickey) and Nick Dal Santo (pick 25 for Billy Longer).
Not all those worked, but the point is they were aggressive.
Right now, the Tigers believe they don’t need to rebuild.
That’s fine, keep all the guns. Recruit talent in dribs and drabs and hope the talent matures while the guns are still around.
If that’s the case, the Tigers have to look at development and drafting, and that puts the spotlight on recruiter Francis Jackson and list manager Blair Hartley.
The list isn’t pretty now that the trade-ins have maxed out.
Of the draftees, Martin gets a tick, maybe Ellis, maybe Vlastuin. The rest are made up of possibles (Corey Ellis, Ben Lennon, Sam Lloyd, for example), likely nots (Ben Griffiths), or they’re starting their careers (Daniel Rioli, Nathan Broad, Connor Menadue).
If it’s 1-7, the Tigers surely will look at youth. Not play them all at once, but give them all a sprinkle of games. Players like Jason Castagna, Jayden Short, Oleg Markov, Dan Butler, Adam Marcon and Liam McBean. Butler is injured, Nathan Drummond is coming back from an ACL and Broad is a mature-age recruit.
But what about key position player Todd Elton, who has played two games in six years?
To go anywhere, you need to understand where you are. Maybe that’s Richmond’s immediate issue.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-needs-to-be-bold-at-the-trade-table-and-regenerate-its-list-mark-robinson-writes/news-story/c216a8492823c8f3c8a4e2522a425340
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FFS even Blobbo can see it
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Trade for Cloke.
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lard has no idea what he is talking about.
Trade delidio for who????????????so hackson and his fellow but lickers can stuff it up again.
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Are the na sayers, do gooders.... :help
Only with the smart comments because you think its all good, the club is in great shape...
Well a lot of us saw this coming, the best players in the team are getting too old and we have nothing other than Rioli coming through, the gap in talent between that group Robbo mentioned and the rest is too far, I would look at trading Deledio and Edwards.
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If you are going to trade you need to have complete confidence in the people who organize the trades that they will make the right decisions. Given there is considerable doubt over the existing recruiters unless the recruiting department is changed we are doomed to make the same mistakes we have made in the past. Trades only work when you have competent staff.
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I reckon we should Trade him.
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Gotta try something
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If you are going to trade you need to have complete confidence in the people who organize the trades that they will make the right decisions. Given there is considerable doubt over the existing recruiters unless the recruiting department is changed we are doomed to make the same mistakes we have made in the past. Trades only work when you have competent staff.
100% correct.
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If you are going to trade you need to have complete confidence in the people who organize the trades that they will make the right decisions. Given there is considerable doubt over the existing recruiters unless the recruiting department is changed we are doomed to make the same mistakes we have made in the past. Trades only work when you have competent staff.
100% correct.
Correct
We'd trade him for the 2017 version of Townsend and Hampson
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I'm 100% keen on trading Lids.
Let him go play finals.
If we get a top 10 pick we might actually get a player who will be in our next premiership side, even if the odds are very slim.
We need a full rebuild. Hard calls need to be made.
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I'm 100% keen on trading Lids.
Let him go play finals.
If we get a top 10 pick we might actually get a player who will be in our next premiership side, even if the odds are very slim.
We need a full rebuild. Hard calls need to be made.
It very very as people want titch / lids. Primarily so the players can enjoy some success before they hang up the boots
What a circus
I assume your full rebuild includes offloading jack, rance?
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I'm hoping that Rance and Jack might be around in the unlikely event that we do our rebuild right.
Lids is 29 and his body is starting to fail. He is the man.
I would be sad but if we can get a top 10 pick for him then I would take it.
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I'm hoping that Rance and Jack might be around in the unlikely event that we do our rebuild right.
Lids is 29 and his body is starting to fail. He is the man.
I would be sad but if we can get a top 10 pick for him then I would take it.
Our other best players are not that much younger than lids
What about pick 5 and 6 for rance and jack. Then you have 5. 6. 10. Oh boy
I find it hard to believe Richmond are a (more) realistic chance to win a flag if deledio is traded for a pick 10
And I don't much see the point when gws have 65 first rounders on th list and almost very side is well ahead of us in the process
Is it realistic rance and jack can win a flag here before they retire if lids is traded out? If not why not go whole Hog and offload our best Hal dozen players. You say yourself the odds are slim. Either way they are slim.
My preference would be getting new staff: coach. Ass-coaches. List mangers etc and building around our better 5/6 players. You might get lucky if you put the other 40 on the table
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I am totally againt this. It makes no sense to offload the only silky, fast, goal kicking goal assisting, dynamic, long kickig half forward/mid on our list for a 1st round pick who "might" develop into something good by season 3.
Even at 29 and sore legs he is one of the few players who provides professionalism and a take the game on attitude. But yeah let's trade that for some kid
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I am totally againt this. It makes no sense to offload the only silky, fast, goal kicking goal assisting, dynamic, long kickig half forward/mid on our list for a 1st round pick who "might" develop into something good by season 3.
Even at 29 and sore legs he is one of the few players who provides professionalism and a take the game on attitude. But yeah let's trade that for some kid
But he might win a final at Sydney or hawthorn
:whistle
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I'm hoping that Rance and Jack might be around in the unlikely event that we do our rebuild right.
Lids is 29 and his body is starting to fail. He is the man.
I would be sad but if we can get a top 10 pick for him then I would take it.
Would you like to see Shane Edwards traded out of interst?
If lids was trade for a 17/18 year old pick 10 - what year do you think we'd be a realistic chance to win the premiership?
I am merely interested to know why you think in this manner, cheers
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I'm hoping that Rance and Jack might be around in the unlikely event that we do our rebuild right.
Lids is 29 and his body is starting to fail. He is the man.
I would be sad but if we can get a top 10 pick for him then I would take it.
Our other best players are not that much younger than lids
What about pick 5 and 6 for rance and jack. Then you have 5. 6. 10. Oh boy
I find it hard to believe Richmond are a (more) realistic chance to win a flag if deledio is traded for a pick 10
And I don't much see the point when gws have 65 first rounders on th list and almost very side is well ahead of us in the process
Is it realistic rance and jack can win a flag here before they retire if lids is traded out? If not why not go whole Hog and offload our best Hal dozen players. You say yourself the odds are slim. Either way they are slim.
My preference would be getting new staff: coach. Ass-coaches. List mangers etc and building around our better 5/6 players. You might get lucky if you put the other 40 on the table
nailed it.
you have to give to get. Fantastic so give them b ellis, vickery and all the other fgts and let another recruiting department do their work instead of the idiots we have in place now.
Trade Lids and let the same idiots find our next conca at pick 6.
great plan.
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I am totally againt this. It makes no sense to offload the only silky, fast, goal kicking goal assisting, dynamic, long kickig half forward/mid on our list for a 1st round pick who "might" develop into something good by season 3.
Even at 29 and sore legs he is one of the few players who provides professionalism and a take the game on attitude. But yeah let's trade that for some kid
No point having a player of his ilk if we aren't going to achieve anything in his time and most probably in any relatively short time after he is gone. So why not trade him and try and acquire some good young talent that can hopefully come through with our other 1st rounder/s and contribute together.
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I am totally againt this. It makes no sense to offload the only silky, fast, goal kicking goal assisting, dynamic, long kickig half forward/mid on our list for a 1st round pick who "might" develop into something good by season 3.
Even at 29 and sore legs he is one of the few players who provides professionalism and a take the game on attitude. But yeah let's trade that for some kid
No point having a player of his ilk if we aren't going to achieve anything in his time and most probably in any relatively short time after he is gone. So why not trade him and try and acquire some good young talent that can hopefully come through with our other 1st rounder/s and contribute together.
Ok
However
trade rance Edwards jack too
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I am totally againt this. It makes no sense to offload the only silky, fast, goal kicking goal assisting, dynamic, long kickig half forward/mid on our list for a 1st round pick who "might" develop into something good by season 3.
Even at 29 and sore legs he is one of the few players who provides professionalism and a take the game on attitude. But yeah let's trade that for some kid
No point having a player of his ilk if we aren't going to achieve anything in his time and most probably in any relatively short time after he is gone. So why not trade him and try and acquire some good young talent that can hopefully come through with our other 1st rounder/s and contribute together.
Ok
However
trade rance Edwards jack too
Nah, they could be around at the next tilt IF we do it right (and have some luck). Although Edwards I would trade. I don't think you can get rid of all the A grade talent we have. We'd be in shambles without Rance Deledio and Jack. You want to rely on McBean/Griff/Vickery and Astbury/Elton/ we have no one else :lol
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The rebuild talk is hysterical nonsense.....I still believe with clear, rational thinking and the right people put in place with the right strategies we can bring in high picks & talent without sacrificing our top 5 or any up & comers and move back up quickly....so no to trading Deledio and yes to trading Edwards, B.Ellis, Conca, Griffiths, Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and letting Vickery walk for compo pick......
Remember, even late picks can be bundled up and traded for higher picks under the academy & father/son points system....
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The rebuild talk is hysterical nonsense.....I still believe with clear, rational thinking and the right people put in place with the right strategies we can bring in high picks & talent without sacrificing our top 5 or any up & comers and move back up quickly....so no to trading Deledio and yes to trading Edwards, B.Ellis, Conca, Griffiths, Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and letting Vickery walk for compo pick......
Remember, even late picks can be bundled up and traded for higher picks under the academy & father/son points system....
I really agree, this talk about a total rebuild off the back of some sub par performances strung together is absolutely hysterical. Realistically, I think we've been in a semi-rebuild after we lost last years final, shouldn't the club get some credit for that. While we all sat around licking our wounds, I think internally we DID look at guys like Chaplin and Grigg and say "they're not going to take us forward" and thats why we have guys like C Ellis and Menadue getting more game time in positions they're not ready for.
I wouldn't trade any of our players with genuine currency unless we get overs. If we finish bottom 4 this year, we get a top 4 pick. With development into our younger guys, we'll start to see results next year. I think C Ellis gets better every week, for example.
The only player I'd consider getting rid of is B Ellis, but I think he's also been given more responsibility than he can handle.
Keep Lids unless we get offered Macrae and a first rounder. My two cents
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At least this way, Lids could possibly win a final
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At least this way, Lids could possibly win a final
Imagine how good he'd be at Geelong
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The rebuild talk is hysterical nonsense.....I still believe with clear, rational thinking and the right people put in place with the right strategies we can bring in high picks & talent without sacrificing our top 5 or any up & comers and move back up quickly....so no to trading Deledio and yes to trading Edwards, B.Ellis, Conca, Griffiths, Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and letting Vickery walk for compo pick......
Remember, even late picks can be bundled up and traded for higher picks under the academy & father/son points system....
I really agree, this talk about a total rebuild off the back of some sub par performances strung together is absolutely hysterical. Realistically, I think we've been in a semi-rebuild after we lost last years final, shouldn't the club get some credit for that. While we all sat around licking our wounds, I think internally we DID look at guys like Chaplin and Grigg and say "they're not going to take us forward" and thats why we have guys like C Ellis and Menadue getting more game time in positions they're not ready for.
I wouldn't trade any of our players with genuine currency unless we get overs. If we finish bottom 4 this year, we get a top 4 pick. With development into our younger guys, we'll start to see results next year. I think C Ellis gets better every week, for example.
The only player I'd consider getting rid of is B Ellis, but I think he's also been given more responsibility than he can handle.
Keep Lids unless we get offered Macrae and a first rounder. My two cents
Finishing 8th and getting smashed in finals deserves no credit
It's football one flag per year. Not this air fairy everyone is a winner rubbish
We made the finals largely by carrying list blockers not rebuilding correctly
Now and in te future we are rooted. No credit stuff em all
It's deadset unaustralian going into a season with Hampson and Chaplin as key pillars of the best 22
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At least this way, Lids could possibly win a final
Imagine how good he'd be at Geelong
That's the thing.
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I know the club won't as they are spineless but I would definitely consider trading Lids.
It's a tough call as he has been a star for the club but his time is coming to an end, like it or not.
But you wouldn't take less than a top 5 pick for him. Even a top 3 pick.
GWS would jump at it and I think you would have to consider it.
As they always say, the club is bigger than an individual.
The way it's looking and if we use our brain we could have a top 5 pick for Lids and a top 3 pick for being completely poo at the end of the year.
Trade out BEllis, Conca, Griff and Vickery for second round picks and we would have some decent picks to kickstart our club.
I also do agree with others that FJ needs to be marched out the door ASAP if we plan to go down this track as its pointless with that d/ckhead in charge of recruiting.
Pick up Clarke and Hurley for free and we are back in the game again..
It's time for the club to get tough. If players have contracts and we want to trade them, just tell them it's agree to a trade or waste away in the seconds. It's not that hard to push people out even if the don't want to go.
Anyway all wishful thinking as the club still thinks we can make finals. :lol
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Deledio. Rance. Martin.
Vlastuin. Hurley. Grimes.
Lambert. Cotchin. Menadue.
Lloyd. McBean. Lennon.
Rioli. Jack. Yarren.
Zac Clark. Edwards. Miles.
C Ellis
Chol. / Maric
Short / cantstandya
Mcintosh
Conversely if you keep lids and bring in Hurley and z Clarke - both free. You could play something like the following. Far from perfect but with a few more additions (not a moron list manager) and a new coach might be ok
I am not sold on the rebuilding plans for 2024
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I know the club won't as they are spineless but I would definitely consider trading Lids.
It's a tough call as he has been a star for the club but his time is coming to an end, like it or not.
But you wouldn't take less than a top 5 pick for him. Even a top 3 pick.
GWS would jump at it and I think you would have to consider it.
As they always say, the club is bigger than an individual.
The way it's looking and if we use our brain we could have a top 5 pick for Lids and a top 3 pick for being completely poo at the end of the year.
Trade out BEllis, Conca, Griff and Vickery for second round picks and we would have some decent picks to kickstart our club.
I also do agree with others that FJ needs to be marched out the door ASAP if we plan to go down this track as its pointless with that d/ckhead in charge of recruiting.
Pick up Clarke and Hurley for free and we are back in the game again..
It's time for the club to get tough. If players have contracts and we want to trade them, just tell them it's agree to a trade or waste away in the seconds. It's not that hard to push people out even if the don't want to go.
Anyway all wishful thinking as the club still thinks we can make finals. :lol
Gws will win next 5 flags with lids
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Been saying this for weeks.
Needs to be tabled to Lids to see how he feels about it. Stay if he wants, go if he wants.
The list doesn't need a full rebuild it just needs a bit of a shake-up. Cut away some dead wood (Chaplin, Conca, Vickery, Griffiths, Astbury, Maric, Hampson etc) and bring in some depth/star power (Hurley for example).
Rance will be 27 at season's end. Jack will be 28. Cotchin just turned 26 and Martin is turning 25 soon. So even our bookends have at least 3+ years of footy in them and our two best mids have 5+.
Unless we can do some serious trading/FA hunting at the end of the year it would be in both Lids' AND RFC's best interest for him to be traded to a contending club.
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I know the club won't as they are spineless but I would definitely consider trading Lids.
It's a tough call as he has been a star for the club but his time is coming to an end, like it or not.
But you wouldn't take less than a top 5 pick for him. Even a top 3 pick.
GWS would jump at it and I think you would have to consider it.
As they always say, the club is bigger than an individual.
The way it's looking and if we use our brain we could have a top 5 pick for Lids and a top 3 pick for being completely poo at the end of the year.
Trade out BEllis, Conca, Griff and Vickery for second round picks and we would have some decent picks to kickstart our club.
I also do agree with others that FJ needs to be marched out the door ASAP if we plan to go down this track as its pointless with that d/ckhead in charge of recruiting.
Pick up Clarke and Hurley for free and we are back in the game again..
It's time for the club to get tough. If players have contracts and we want to trade them, just tell them it's agree to a trade or waste away in the seconds. It's not that hard to push people out even if the don't want to go.
Anyway all wishful thinking as the club still thinks we can make finals. :lol
Gws will win next 5 flags with lids
GWS wouldn't be playing him in a back pocket.
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Been saying this for weeks.
Needs to be tabled to Lids to see how he feels about it. Stay if he wants, go if he wants.
The list doesn't need a full rebuild it just needs a bit of a shake-up. Cut away some dead wood (Chaplin, Conca, Vickery, Griffiths, Astbury, Maric, Hampson etc) and bring in some depth/star power (Hurley for example).
Rance will be 27 at season's end. Jack will be 28. Cotchin just turned 26 and Martin is turning 25 soon. So even our bookends have at least 3+ years of footy in them and our two best mids have 5+.
Unless we can do some serious trading/FA hunting at the end of the year it would be in both Lids' AND RFC's best interest for him to be traded to a contending club.
My thoughts exactly.
we need to be bold.
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I know the club won't as they are spineless but I would definitely consider trading Lids.
It's a tough call as he has been a star for the club but his time is coming to an end, like it or not.
But you wouldn't take less than a top 5 pick for him. Even a top 3 pick.
GWS would jump at it and I think you would have to consider it.
As they always say, the club is bigger than an individual.
The way it's looking and if we use our brain we could have a top 5 pick for Lids and a top 3 pick for being completely poo at the end of the year.
Trade out BEllis, Conca, Griff and Vickery for second round picks and we would have some decent picks to kickstart our club.
I also do agree with others that FJ needs to be marched out the door ASAP if we plan to go down this track as its pointless with that d/ckhead in charge of recruiting.
Pick up Clarke and Hurley for free and we are back in the game again..
It's time for the club to get tough. If players have contracts and we want to trade them, just tell them it's agree to a trade or waste away in the seconds. It's not that hard to push people out even if the don't want to go.
Anyway all wishful thinking as the club still thinks we can make finals. :lol
Gws will win next 5 flags with lids
GWS wouldn't be playing him in a back pocket.
Richmond wouldn't have to either
If not for the plethora of list blocking oxygen stealing hack that line up in the middle and defence.
In a perfect world he'd play forward. Just a matter of getting the ball there innit
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What sort of trade could we put together for Heppell?
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What sort of trade could we put together for Heppell?
Not sure if serious.
But effectively none. He can walk if he wants to.
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Rubbish don't agree
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We have to be bold.....the club is bigger than the individual. Trade him and get a top 10 pick, trade B Ellis and griffiths for an early 2nd rounder. Suddenly we got picks say 3 or 4, 10 and maybe 20 for next year....snag a free agents like Hurley and Clarke then maybe things can turn around quick. The team we have will not progress until we make some tough calls
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We have to be bold.....the club is bigger than the individual. Trade him and get a top 10 pick, trade B Ellis and griffiths for an early 2nd rounder. Suddenly we got picks say 3 or 4, 10 and maybe 20 for next year....snag a free agents like Hurley and Clarke then maybe things can turn around quick. The team we have will not progress until we make some tough calls
Or ,
Do all that
But don't trade lids
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Lids is actually the perfect example of when a club should trade a good player.
If we could get a top 5 pick or a proven gun young midfielder then it would be a win for all involved.
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to me goal kickers are irreplaceable. Considering our forward line is in shambles I could not entertain the idea of trading Lids at all. You look at Carlton who chose not to match Adelaide's offer for Eddie Betts and despite having an engine room of Cripps, Murphy and Gibbs, where are the goals?
I agree you need to trade something of worth to get something of worth and for that B Ellis is someone I'd trade. Trading a proven A grade for picks (in other words potential) makes no sense to me.
1st round picks even today is still no guarantee of quality. Look at the 2012 draft, how many ended up being major success stories?
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I know the club won't as they are spineless but I would definitely consider trading Lids.
It's a tough call as he has been a star for the club but his time is coming to an end, like it or not.
But you wouldn't take less than a top 5 pick for him. Even a top 3 pick.
GWS would jump at it and I think you would have to consider it.
As they always say, the club is bigger than an individual.
The way it's looking and if we use our brain we could have a top 5 pick for Lids and a top 3 pick for being completely poo at the end of the year.
Trade out BEllis, Conca, Griff and Vickery for second round picks and we would have some decent picks to kickstart our club.
I also do agree with others that FJ needs to be marched out the door ASAP if we plan to go down this track as its pointless with that d/ckhead in charge of recruiting.
Pick up Clarke and Hurley for free and we are back in the game again..
It's time for the club to get tough. If players have contracts and we want to trade them, just tell them it's agree to a trade or waste away in the seconds. It's not that hard to push people out even if the don't want to go.
Anyway all wishful thinking as the club still thinks we can make finals. :lol
I am a massive fan of Lids - but would seriously entertain this. Love your work
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I love the intent of the post but I'm not sure we'd get what you're asking for 30 yo (next year) who has missed 4 and 5 games in our past 2 seasons and played 1 from 6 so far this year. Not to mention his importance around the club.
We will get unders for Griff, Tyrone & Conca because the best thing on their CV is their draft selection. Having said that, I'd still consider.
We need to be far more aggressive at free agency & trading for talent and our players need to suck it up.
Norf, Hawks, Cats & Pies are pulling our pants down in this area.
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GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
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That's exactly what we should be doing...well one of the things anyway....
Club also needs to come out publicly and say our player develpment has been poor....con clubs into thinking they can turn some of our duds around... :shh
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GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
:facepalm...god, we are so stuffed.
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GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
Like that thinking :thumbsup
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I love the intent of the post but I'm not sure we'd get what you're asking for 30 yo (next year) who has missed 4 and 5 games in our past 2 seasons and played 1 from 6 so far this year. Not to mention his importance around the club.
Yep, we arn't going to get a top 10 pick for Lids IMO unless GWS (or the Dogs) are very VERY interested. GWS present as a good target if they want some top-up talent and they have an over-supply of early draft picks.
GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
Is that hyperbole or do they actually have 4 first rounders? I can only account for two of them (their own and Collingwoods potential top 4 pick).
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yes a top 10 pick, maybe 17 year old ... in another gws shate upon draft doesnt sound that good. More so with the clubs track record of taking Concas, JONS, BEllis types
"his body letting him down" is maybe true maybe not. Almost broke the most played games record. How do people know at what age he will retire? Hes better than Waite, Boomer, Burgoyne etc. and other old people that are still playing well
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I love the intent of the post but I'm not sure we'd get what you're asking for 30 yo (next year) who has missed 4 and 5 games in our past 2 seasons and played 1 from 6 so far this year. Not to mention his importance around the club.
Yep, we arn't going to get a top 10 pick for Lids IMO unless GWS (or the Dogs) are very VERY interested. GWS present as a good target if they want some top-up talent and they have an over-supply of early draft picks.
GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
Is that hyperbole or do they actually have 4 first rounders? I can only account for two of them (their own and Collingwoods potential top 4 pick).
in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
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the best two players in the draft
are going to gws / gc
Keep Lids unless we get offered Macrae and a first rounder. My two cents
while i am obviously in the 'keep lids' camp that does sound pretty tasty
if the doggies were smart they would do it - he would kick 100 goals a season for them if playd forward
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I just had dinner, it was nice.
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in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
Not questioning your argument, I just can't think of many examples outside of Heeney and Callum Mills (who are of any note) who have been plucked from the academies.
I do question how big advantage is, or if its significant as the Melbourne clubs/media make it out to be, especially considering they don't have father-son picks. If there is a jet in one of the academies, can't one of the melbourne teams force them to take it with their first picks, a la the father-son rule?
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in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
Not questioning your argument, I just can't think of many examples outside of Heeney and Callum Mills (who are of any note) who have been plucked from the academies.
they have not been around that long, have they ?
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in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
Not questioning your argument, I just can't think of many examples outside of Heeney and Callum Mills (who are of any note) who have been plucked from the academies.
they have not been around that long, have they ?
I think the first draft any of Syd, Bris and GWS were able to draw from was '14 draft but I know they've all had academies/development squads for young players for quite a few years now.
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in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
Not questioning your argument, I just can't think of many examples outside of Heeney and Callum Mills (who are of any note) who have been plucked from the academies.
they have not been around that long, have they ?
I think the first draft any of Syd, Bris and GWS were able to draw from was '14 draft but I know they've all had academies/development squads for young players for quite a few years now.
i am no expert, cause i have not been following it, cause i think the afl are a pack of bastards
but from what i hear - the GWS and GC have been given very large chunks of Australia for its academy bollocks, somewhat of these chunks traditional afl good player hotbeds (carey / hird regions)
- Heeney and Callum Mills look very good.
- they apparently get the best the best 1 and 2 players (again) this year
- i dont know but i was expecting them to continue producing kids of high talent
i am unsure if pick 10 is really pick 10 like it was 15 years ago. Lids is more a proven commodity
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yes a top 10 pick, maybe 17 year old ... in another gws shate upon draft doesnt sound that good. More so with the clubs track record of taking Concas, JONS, BEllis types
"his body letting him down" is maybe true maybe not. Almost broke the most played games record. How do people know at what age he will retire? Hes better than Waite, Boomer, Burgoyne etc. and other old people that are still playing well
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/brett-deledio-of-the-tigers-handballs-the-ball-during-a-richmond-afl-picture-id500856070)
I love the intent of the post but I'm not sure we'd get what you're asking for 30 yo (next year) who has missed 4 and 5 games in our past 2 seasons and played 1 from 6 so far this year. Not to mention his importance around the club.
Yep, we arn't going to get a top 10 pick for Lids IMO unless GWS (or the Dogs) are very VERY interested. GWS present as a good target if they want some top-up talent and they have an over-supply of early draft picks.
GGWS will go into this years draft again with 4 first round picks, they'll be also looking for points to pick up a couple of there academy players again.
If we're bold enough we could easily trade into a couple of those picks for a player and a swap of later draft picks. It's just a matter of having what GWS need more so than what we want to give.
Is that hyperbole or do they actually have 4 first rounders? I can only account for two of them (their own and Collingwoods potential top 4 pick).
in reality; with the players the expansion clubs get via the academy it is equivalent to first rounders
sort of like - them taking the best 17 year olds in australia, 'for free'. For not apparent reason bar the AFL are a pack of bastards
Geez. He's massive.
So much so, his head looks to small
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Wouldn't even consider trading him,if anyone down there deserves to be a one club player then its lids by the Flemington straight.
Theres only a few untouchables at the club but after that every ones tradable.
The players want to back the coach in and say its their fault well all good fellas you shouldn't mind us putting you up for trade if your letting us down , right?
Put on the table the likes you can afford to trade that have value and I'm all for it.
The likes of Edwards, B.Ellis, Griffiths,Conca and Vickery should all be on the table.
But gaining picks means nothing if they get you more youth in our current set up, they'll end up on the scrap heap with all the other not worthy's.
These stuffing clowns that the club pay to manage the list need to earn their coin and gets some ready to go talent in FFS.
Free some cap space,unclog the list and add some stuffing value to the team by trading the picks you get from our cloggers.
:banghead
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-up-for-big-pay-out-if-it-was-to-sack-coach-damien-hardwick/news-story/91b442e3161daf65bafe69455c6e502d
lol not that i believe everything that ralph says but its the RFC so most likely 100% true.
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Wouldn't even consider trading him,if anyone down there deserves to be a one club player then its lids by the Flemington straight.
What has he done to deserve to go through his career without ever winning a final, let alone a premiership?
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Wouldn't even consider trading him,if anyone down there deserves to be a one club player then its lids by the Flemington straight.
What has he done to deserve to go through his career without ever winning a final, let alone a premiership?
Shut up penny
You support Richmond not deledio
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says who?
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:lol
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Apparently
4 of te best 20 players go to gws via french riviera zoning afl bastard rules
A pick 10 for lids is not really pick 10
Like how rioli was not really a pick 12 after all the funny. Buggers
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Look on the bright side Bents...if Deledio leaves, we can finally get rid of Grigg.... :shh
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What has he done to deserve to go through his career without ever winning a final, let alone a premiership?
Players that don't win a premiership dont deserve to be 1 club players?
After having coaches the ilk of Hardwick,Wallace and even Rawlings its a bloody miracle he isn't rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
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What has he done to deserve to go through his career without ever winning a final, let alone a premiership?
Players that don't win a premiership dont deserve to be 1 club players?
After having coaches the ilk of Hardwick,Wallace and even Rawlings its a bloody miracle he isn't rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
Exactly why he should be traded if he wants to.
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What has he done to deserve to go through his career without ever winning a final, let alone a premiership?
Players that don't win a premiership dont deserve to be 1 club players?
:huh3After having coaches the ilk of Hardwick,Wallace and even Rawlings its a bloody miracle he isn't rocking back and forth in the fetal position.
yep, and as yeahright pointed out......
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If Lids wants to go then good luck to him. Cant recall anything suggesting that he wants to leave though.
Some players are capable of playing well past the age of 30 so trying to move him on(if he wants to stay)would not be sending a good message to the group.
stuff off all the squibs & Pea hearts that are on the list & that will send the right message to the group.
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If Lids wants to go then good luck to him. Cant recall anything suggesting that he wants to leave though.
Some players are capable of playing well past the age of 30 so trying to move him on(if he wants to stay)would not be sending a good message to the group.
stuff off all the squibs & Pea hearts that are on the list & that will send the right message to the group.
My thoughts exactly.
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Trade talk a joke for Tiger Lids
Herald-Sun
12 May 2016
RICHMOND star Brett Deledio has admitted he has “toyed with” the idea of leaving Punt Rd, but is adamant he is staying a Tiger.
Deledio, who is contracted until the end of next year, joked that he has used talk of his value on the trade table for the club as fodder with teammates.
And while he conceded it has crossed his mind, the thoughts are fleeting.
“I can’t (see myself leaving Richmond),” Deledio told RSN.
“You do toy with the idea, maybe in the off-season when things haven’t gone so well, but it’s not something that I have ever really genuinely thought about.
“I’m a very happy Richmond player and very happy building the team that we’ve got going at the moment. We’ve got some work ahead of us.”
Richmond plays Sydney at the MCG on Saturday night with the hope of breaking its six-game losing streak, with Deledio saying personnel troubles have had a lot to do with the club’s problems.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-star-brett-deledio-admits-he-toyed-with-leaving-the-tigers/news-story/b9ba75eb01c94a8d0315e65ffd737660
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'Lids' not keen to be Tiger trade bait
AFL.com.au
12 May 2016
RICHMOND vice-captain Brett Deledio is hopeful the club does not consider him trade bait at the end of this season if it chooses to target more prime draft picks.
Deledio is contracted to the end of next season but there have been suggestions the club should trade him to bring in a first-round draft pick before he becomes a free agent at the end of 2017.
AFL.com.au has reported the Tigers are understood to have no intention of trading Deledio, or their other 2017 free agent, Dustin Martin.
"I just hope it's not Richmond supporters or Richmond recruiting staff or the coaching staff that want to get rid of me," Deledio told RSN927 on Thursday.
"I'm happy if it is [the media] that are calling for my head, but I'm very happy as a Richmond player and very happy building the team we've got going at the moment.
"I'm contracted until the end of next year, so I'm staying put for now."
When asked if he could see himself leaving the Tigers, Deledio said: "I can't. You do toy with the idea at times, maybe in the off-season when things haven't gone so well, but it's not something I have ever really genuinely thought about."
He said players at Richmond would discuss free agency at times, but "very much in jest".
"It's all a bit of fun really," he said.
"When we have a really bad meeting or something, [someone will say], 'It doesn't matter boys I'm out of here anyway. I'm going to the Doggies, apparently'."
Richmond's 1-6 start to the season to the season has not shaken Deledio's faith in the group, two weeks after he declared the Tigers had a list capable of winning a premiership.
He said the return of captain Trent Cotchin and All Australian defender Alex Rance for Saturday night's clash against the Sydney Swans should help the team turn the corner.
"It's a different story when you've got your best team on the park, you're not waiting for kids who haven't played a lot of footy to do a job that they're probably not ready to do," he said.
"Whether that is because of injury, stupidity or form, we just haven't all played together.
"We're getting back towards that this week, and we'll hopefully see a couple more return in the coming weeks that gets us back to our best 22."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-12/lids-not-keen-to-be-tiger-trade-bait
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As a massive servant of the club, if Lids doesn't want to be traded then I think the club should respect that. The guy is a jet and if the club fixes its recruiting/footy/fitness department this guy will play more games than Boomer Harvey
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
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As a massive servant of the club, if Lids doesn't want to be traded then I think the club should respect that. The guy is a jet and if the club fixes its recruiting/footy/fitness department this guy will play more games than Boomer Harvey
Doesn't matter what the club does, they can't trade him if he doesn't want to anyway
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Give away one of your best assets to upgrade on 2-3 of those list blockers
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
Actually Chucky you sort of indirectly can now under the new points system for father-son picks & the academy kids...... I agree though that you also need to be prepared to put quality on the table if you want to get quality in return.....
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
trading deledio while key pillars of your team are hunt/morris, chaplin, grigg, houli, hampson is stupid no matter how you mix it
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
Actually Chucky you sort of indirectly can now under the new points system for father-son picks & the academy kids...... I agree though that you also need to be prepared to put quality on the table if you want to get quality in return.....
Actually read an article about the talent in the GWS academy this year. Couple of kids expected to go top 10 and another few all potential draftees. You've mentioned the points system numerous times now and it definitely has a lot of merit, hopefully the club can see it. Could easily get back into the 2nd round this year and with some smart trading we should aim for more
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
Actually Chucky you sort of indirectly can now under the new points system for father-son picks & the academy kids...... I agree though that you also need to be prepared to put quality on the table if you want to get quality in return.....
stanley pick 19
vickery pick 19 and give whoever wants bellis and conca. Theres 3 inside 20 for our new recruiter.
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
Actually Chucky you sort of indirectly can now under the new points system for father-son picks & the academy kids...... I agree though that you also need to be prepared to put quality on the table if you want to get quality in return.....
stanley pick 19
vickery pick 19 and give whoever wants bellis and conca. Theres 3 inside 20 for our new recruiter.
Good luck finding anyone who will give you picks inside 20 for any of those three
Bellis may have a sniff but I doubt it
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As I was implying Chucky, even if we only get get late picks for the likes of Conca, Grigg, Houli etc...which is likely....we can then bundle up those picks and trade them to a club that needs points for father son picks or academy picks for earlier picks.....
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Just got to love the mediocrity crew
Mediocrity is giving away your best asset
Meanwhile, a quarter of the list are list blockers
Your not going to be able to upgrade on quality by changing spuds for gold no matter how many you package together
Actually Chucky you sort of indirectly can now under the new points system for father-son picks & the academy kids...... I agree though that you also need to be prepared to put quality on the table if you want to get quality in return.....
stanley pick 19
vickery pick 19 and give whoever wants bellis and conca. Theres 3 inside 20 for our new recruiter.
Good luck finding anyone who will give you picks inside 20 for any of those three
Bellis may have a sniff but I doubt it
ryhs stanley/daisy/cristensen say hello.. around the 20 mark they were.
and dont give me that jackstar nonsense that he was a descent player at the saints.
agree re: conca but im sure there is a sucker out there just like us.
Vickery will give us a pick inside 20 when he goes to another club, which is on the cards.
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Griff top 10
Tyrone 2nd rounder
B Ellis 2 rounder
Grigg 3rd r
:shh
Lid 25 touches first half wtf
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Lid 25 touches first half wtf
Shame that he still has the same issues with not being able to handle attention. Was manned up tighter in the second half and was barely seen
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Lid 25 touches first half wtf
Shame that he still has the same issues with not being able to handle attention. Was manned up tighter in the second half and was barely seen
Wrong he got it another ten times and was important
He isn't fit yet ... Were u expecting 50 possessions?
If it were up to me I would keep lids. Good week for trade value for the lesser players
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Lid 25 touches first half wtf
Shame that he still has the same issues with not being able to handle attention. Was manned up tighter in the second half and was barely seen
Had a couple of big important touches. I'd take that 9 possession half over most of our players.
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Lid 25 touches first half wtf
Shame that he still has the same issues with not being able to handle attention. Was manned up tighter in the second half and was barely seen
Wrong he got it another ten times and was important
He isn't fit yet ... Were u expecting 50 possessions?
If it were up to me I would keep lids. Good week for trade value for the lesser players
Wrong? So you don't think he was manned up tighter? I was excepting no less than 60
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Lid 25 touches first half wtf
Shame that he still has the same issues with not being able to handle attention. Was manned up tighter in the second half and was barely seen
Wrong he got it another ten times and was important
He isn't fit yet ... Were u expecting 50 possessions?
If it were up to me I would keep lids. Good week for trade value for the lesser players
Wrong? So you don't think he was manned up tighter? I was excepting no less than 60
True he was tagged
He was in track to have a 50 possession game hence he would of been tagged
Wrong he was barley sited. He had another ten quality touches. With a tagger. Whilst not fit
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Not sure he is far off being fit, did a lot of running just not a lot of kicking.
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Robbo and King: Trading Deledio must be considered
Justin Talent
SEN
05 Jun 2016
Richmond’s list needs to be shaken up with an injection of quality young players, and trading star Brett Deledio to obtain further first round draft picks needs to be an option for the club to move forward, says Mark Robinson and David King.
The 29-year-old remains a fan favourite and an integral part of the under-siege Tigers, but questions over the quality of players the club have recruited from deep in the draft has left gaps in the list that King believes can’t be fixed without elite talent.
“In my opinion I reckon the club has let Damien down. I think that their draft selection after the first round pick has been nigh on a debacle and they have had no faith in late picks,” he said on SEN’s Crunch Time.
“Instead of taking a late pick they have gone for a mature player who is capped at being a six out of ten AFL commodity.”
“You can’t just be stuck in that middle ground of the AFL table. You need to work out a way where it either might cost you one to two years but you’ve got a vision”
King believes an option to create a clear vision for the future of the club is offer Deledio on the trade table this season.
“They may have to look at Deledio and say ‘Can we get two first round picks for this guy? Can we get a pick at the end of this year and the end of next year?,’ he said.
“He’s probably got four, five good years left in him. He’s been a wonderful player but he could go to a top club and make a huge difference. That’s the sort of decision they have to make.”
Mark Robinson agreed, stating that no matter how much Richmond fans may dislike the idea, Deledio will not form a part of Richmond’s next premiership.
“The Richmond fans hate it. (They say) “No, he’s one of us”. That’s fine. Keep him. Having him as a one club player is terrific,” said Robinson.
“But if he left and you got a first (round pick) this year and a late first next year, that’s two players. The regeneration is not going to take one year, it’s going to take three or four years to build up so maybe when Daniel Rioli is 25 they’re coming into a time when they are seriously challenging for a flag.”
Dermott Brereton disagreed, stating that if Richmond consider trading any of their stars, they will o into free-fall down the table.
“There is (trade bait) but they go south. If they trade their trade-able commodities, one or two of them, they go south,” he said.
http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/06-16/robbo-and-king-trading-deledio-must-be-considered
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:sleep :sleep
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IF we got a first round this year and next you'd take it and stuffing run wouldn't you?
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IF we got a first round this year and next you'd take it and stuffing run wouldn't you?
You would have to think so
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IF we got a first round this year and next you'd take it and stuffing run wouldn't you?
Yes - top 10 pick
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IF we got a first round this year and next you'd take it and stuffing run wouldn't you?
Yes - top 10 pick
Top 10 dooks that's correct
Some others just don't get the fact that anything that anything else a a 50/50 proposition for the best recruiter in the land
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One conca thanks
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IF we got a first round this year and next you'd take it and stuffing run wouldn't you?
poo yeah
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One conca thanks
:yep
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My question is, are we in a total redevelopment at the moment? Whilst 2 first rounders seems like an obvious Yes, does that mean we're effectively closing the door in this crop achieving anything. I would have thought an established player and a decent pick seems more on the mark, that way we get someone in who can contribute to a high standard and a good pick.
A la Prestia plus a late first/early second rounder.
Doubt lids will head up to the GC though.
How about Lids for a GWS jet and pick?
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The problem with this proposal is as follows.
You are are getting a 17 year old in a poor yet again tampered with draft and a 16 year old , the year after
What is the overall gameplan (long term)? Will they contribute before rance and jack, who are not getting younger are still at the peak?
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Can we trust the club not to stuff this up or will it be another Danny Meyer Adam Pattison fiasco.
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Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 said if Deledio was put on the trade table then GWS has said they would go after Lids very hard.
No mention of what they would offer in return though.
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Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 said if Deledio was put on the trade table then GWS has said they would go after Lids very hard.
No mention of what they would offer in return though.
Tomlinson and Collingwood's first rounder?
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GWS have 3 first rounders in next draft. They will 100% trade some of them. If not all.
Collingwoods 1st rounder, Geelong 1st rounder and where ever they finish.
Currently that would be pick 8, 16 and 17. Ideally Pies finish lower and could grab a pick 6 and maybe one of the other first rounders and we'd be laughing. I'd like to think the competetion would see Deledio as easily worth 2 first rounders. Would love 2 top 10 picks but unsure whether he is worth that in other clubs eyes.
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GWS have 3 first rounders in next draft. They will 100% trade some of them. If not all.
Collingwoods 1st rounder, Geelong 1st rounder and where ever they finish.
Currently that would be pick 8, 16 and 17. Ideally Pies finish lower and could grab a pick 6 and maybe one of the other first rounders and we'd be laughing. I'd like to think the competetion would see Deledio as easily worth 2 first rounders. Would love 2 top 10 picks but unsure whether he is worth that in other clubs eyes.
he is contracted so any deal less than that we won't even look at it.
anyone that wants him show us how much!
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True but being contracted Deledio will still have to agree to the trade. We can't send him to Brisbane unless he agrees to terms. It would have to be a team in a premiership window and more than likely a team in Victoria having a young family. GWS have the ammunition but I'd say he'd want to be traded to Geelong, Hawks, North.
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any top player wanting a Flag must have GWS as #1, 2, 3..... on thier list given the gift the AFL have set them up with
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GWS have 3 first rounders in next draft. They will 100% trade some of them. If not all.
Dont be surprised if they need all those 1st rounders and then some for their academy kids.They screwed up registration forms for Marshall and he will go early.
Setterfield & Perryman will go early aswell .Sproule Macreadie,Mutch, & Maguire could all be earlier than later picks in this draft too.
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If gws get lids we won't beat them for a long time
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We won't beat them again for a long time anyway....nor will most other sides....
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Change thread title to: Tigers should trade Deledio: Robbo .... In order to attempt to finish 2nd
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Get what we can for Lids and run.
He is nearly 30 and his body is starting to signs of letting him down.
He showed against Port that when the game was to be won he was nowhere to be seen...again!
At best he is a flanker now.
If we can get a top 5 pick or a couple of first round picks for this flanker we should, maybe we could draft a decent midfielder which we desperately need. One that doesn't go to water when someone pays tight on him.
It's time for this club to make a tough decision on a good player that could potentially get us two good, 10 years players.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
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Get what we can for Lids and run.
He is nearly 30 and his body is starting to signs of letting him down.
He showed against Port that when the game was to be won he was nowhere to be seen...again!
At best he is a flanker now.
If we can get a top 5 pick or a couple of first round picks for this flanker we should, maybe we could draft a decent midfielder which we desperately need. One that doesn't go to water when someone pays tight on him.
It's time for this club to make a tough decision on a good player that could potentially get us two good, 10 years players.
Wow!! you idiot , you zero football knowledge idiot.
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Tomlinson, Jack Steele and a first round pick!
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Robbo is drinking too much :snidegrin
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Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 said if Deledio was put on the trade table then GWS has said they would go after Lids very hard.
No mention of what they would offer in return though.
poo, what did they offer Geelong for Stevie J a few years back, I think it was two top ten picks from memory. Tempting...
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Brad Hardie this morning also said Rance wants out and and GWS are heavily into Deledio.
Was it Barrett who also reported Rance wanted out and Deledio was being courted. Now Mark Stevens reporting similar.
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Was Brian Waldron who first said Rance wants out.
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Was Brian Waldron who first said Rance wants out.
Rance for Fyfe :shh
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We'd lose that deal ...
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Why does Rance want out? Where did this come from? Is this after he divulged his love for the club in the aftermath of the Sydney win or before?
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Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 said if Deledio was put on the trade table then GWS has said they would go after Lids very hard.
No mention of what they would offer in return though.
poo, what did they offer Geelong for Stevie J a few years back, I think it was two top ten picks from memory. Tempting...
would deal with gws. I mean lets face it who cares if they win a few flags, as we have watched what is it 3 clubs win 10 in the last 2 decades so let the good times roll.
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Brad Hardie this morning also said Rance wants out and and GWS are heavily into Deledio.
Was it Barrett who also reported Rance wanted out and Deledio was being courted. Now Mark Stevens reporting similar.
barrett said rance wants out? Fair dinkum when??
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Get what we can for Lids and run.
He is nearly 30 and his body is starting to signs of letting him down.
He showed against Port that when the game was to be won he was nowhere to be seen...again!
At best he is a flanker now.
If we can get a top 5 pick or a couple of first round picks for this flanker we should, maybe we could draft a decent midfielder which we desperately need. One that doesn't go to water when someone pays tight on him.
It's time for this club to make a tough decision on a good player that could potentially get us two good, 10 years players.
Wow!! you idiot , you zero football knowledge idiot.
Bit harsh!
2x idiots in the one sentence. :lol
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
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AFL trade, Brett Deledio, Richmond Tigers
Sarah Olle
July 7, 2016
BRETT Deledio has rebuked suggestions he could be trade bait come season’s end, despite conceding the team “comes first”.
After the Tigers’ capitulation to Port Adelaide last weekend, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall suggested no one at Richmond was safe from the trade table.
Dunstall said it was imperative the Tigers traded whichever player could get them the right deal, regardless of whether they were the captain or a first-year player.
If Richmond was to rebuild and look to the draft, Deledio, 29, could be on the chopping block. The No. 1 draft pick has currency and could help the Tigers attain a first-round draft pick.
But he told Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight that he wouldn’t be putting his hand up for a trade.
“I haven’t been told directly that I’m not on the trade table, but when a club is in a position that we are then questions are going to be asked,” Deledio said on Wednesday.
“I’d like to think that I’d be welcomed back next year and the year after. The club always comes first and they have the decision to make, but as I said I’m contracted for next year so I won’t be putting up my hand to go anywhere.”
Deledio said he was disappointed at how the discussion regarding Richmond’s list had been played out in the media, saying he was confident in coach Damien Hardwick’s plan for the club.
“I wouldn’t want to be staying there myself if I didn’t believe (the club was heading in the right direction),” he said.
“We’re confident that what we’re building is working for us. It hasn’t been a great year for us this year, but we’re invested in what Dimma’s doing with us. We’ll be better for this bad patch of form this year.”
The 241-game veteran said the team had the high-end talent to rewire and again lead the club to finals in 2017. He singled out the top echelon of talent as the players capable of steering that change.
“I certainly don’t think we need to throw everyone out and completely rebuild,” Deledio said.
“I think we’ve got some good talent there. We’ve certainly shown we’ve got some high class players, like (Dustin Martin), Trent (Cotchin), Jack (Riewoldt) and (Alex Rance). We’ve got to try and build some younger guys around them and bring in some other talent as well.
“I don’t agree with Jason that we need to put everyone up because you could end up at the bottom of the ladder for a long period of time.”
In particular, Deledio was strident when it came to the question of trading the dual All-Australian full back in Alex Rance. To him, “Rancey” was untouchable.
“I’d be pretty disappointed if it was Rancey,” he said.
“I’d be disappointed if it was any of my close mates at the club or anyone for that matter. Rancey has been one of the shining lights this year, along with Dusty. He continues to battle his backside off, week in, week out with full four quarter performances.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett-deledio-admits-he-hasnt-been-told-hes-untouchable-when-it-comes-to-the-trade-table/news-story/cc7eec3821c75f34ec01191c2571d97d
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AFL trade, Brett Deledio, Richmond Tigers
Sarah Olle
July 7, 2016
BRETT Deledio has rebuked suggestions he could be trade bait come season’s end, despite conceding the team “comes first”.
After the Tigers’ capitulation to Port Adelaide last weekend, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall suggested no one at Richmond was safe from the trade table.
Dunstall said it was imperative the Tigers traded whichever player could get them the right deal, regardless of whether they were the captain or a first-year player.
If Richmond was to rebuild and look to the draft, Deledio, 29, could be on the chopping block. The No. 1 draft pick has currency and could help the Tigers attain a first-round draft pick.
But he told Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight that he wouldn’t be putting his hand up for a trade.
“I haven’t been told directly that I’m not on the trade table, but when a club is in a position that we are then questions are going to be asked,” Deledio said on Wednesday.
“I’d like to think that I’d be welcomed back next year and the year after. The club always comes first and they have the decision to make, but as I said I’m contracted for next year so I won’t be putting up my hand to go anywhere.”
Deledio said he was disappointed at how the discussion regarding Richmond’s list had been played out in the media, saying he was confident in coach Damien Hardwick’s plan for the club.
“I wouldn’t want to be staying there myself if I didn’t believe (the club was heading in the right direction),” he said.
“We’re confident that what we’re building is working for us. It hasn’t been a great year for us this year, but we’re invested in what Dimma’s doing with us. We’ll be better for this bad patch of form this year.”
The 241-game veteran said the team had the high-end talent to rewire and again lead the club to finals in 2017. He singled out the top echelon of talent as the players capable of steering that change.
“I certainly don’t think we need to throw everyone out and completely rebuild,” Deledio said.
“I think we’ve got some good talent there. We’ve certainly shown we’ve got some high class players, like (Dustin Martin), Trent (Cotchin), Jack (Riewoldt) and (Alex Rance). We’ve got to try and build some younger guys around them and bring in some other talent as well.
“I don’t agree with Jason that we need to put everyone up because you could end up at the bottom of the ladder for a long period of time.”
In particular, Deledio was strident when it came to the question of trading the dual All-Australian full back in Alex Rance. To him, “Rancey” was untouchable.
“I’d be pretty disappointed if it was Rancey,” he said.
“I’d be disappointed if it was any of my close mates at the club or anyone for that matter. Rancey has been one of the shining lights this year, along with Dusty. He continues to battle his backside off, week in, week out with full four quarter performances.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett-deledio-admits-he-hasnt-been-told-hes-untouchable-when-it-comes-to-the-trade-table/news-story/cc7eec3821c75f34ec01191c2571d97d
The players are the only ones that seem confident in Dimma's game plan. Or at least they say they are?? The rest of us that watch it each week disagree. And the fact that we are 12th on the ladder and probably/hopefully heading south tells a different storey. Wake up FFS.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
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I only come here for the insults lol
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Would you trade deledio for tom mitchell and a second round pick?
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AFL trade, Brett Deledio, Richmond Tigers
Sarah Olle
July 7, 2016
BRETT Deledio has rebuked suggestions he could be trade bait come season’s end, despite conceding the team “comes first”.
After the Tigers’ capitulation to Port Adelaide last weekend, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall suggested no one at Richmond was safe from the trade table.
Dunstall said it was imperative the Tigers traded whichever player could get them the right deal, regardless of whether they were the captain or a first-year player.
If Richmond was to rebuild and look to the draft, Deledio, 29, could be on the chopping block. The No. 1 draft pick has currency and could help the Tigers attain a first-round draft pick.
But he told Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight that he wouldn’t be putting his hand up for a trade.
“I haven’t been told directly that I’m not on the trade table, but when a club is in a position that we are then questions are going to be asked,” Deledio said on Wednesday.
“I’d like to think that I’d be welcomed back next year and the year after. The club always comes first and they have the decision to make, but as I said I’m contracted for next year so I won’t be putting up my hand to go anywhere.”
Deledio said he was disappointed at how the discussion regarding Richmond’s list had been played out in the media, saying he was confident in coach Damien Hardwick’s plan for the club.
“I wouldn’t want to be staying there myself if I didn’t believe (the club was heading in the right direction),” he said.
“We’re confident that what we’re building is working for us. It hasn’t been a great year for us this year, but we’re invested in what Dimma’s doing with us. We’ll be better for this bad patch of form this year.”
The 241-game veteran said the team had the high-end talent to rewire and again lead the club to finals in 2017. He singled out the top echelon of talent as the players capable of steering that change.
“I certainly don’t think we need to throw everyone out and completely rebuild,” Deledio said.
“I think we’ve got some good talent there. We’ve certainly shown we’ve got some high class players, like (Dustin Martin), Trent (Cotchin), Jack (Riewoldt) and (Alex Rance). We’ve got to try and build some younger guys around them and bring in some other talent as well.
“I don’t agree with Jason that we need to put everyone up because you could end up at the bottom of the ladder for a long period of time.”
In particular, Deledio was strident when it came to the question of trading the dual All-Australian full back in Alex Rance. To him, “Rancey” was untouchable.
“I’d be pretty disappointed if it was Rancey,” he said.
“I’d be disappointed if it was any of my close mates at the club or anyone for that matter. Rancey has been one of the shining lights this year, along with Dusty. He continues to battle his backside off, week in, week out with full four quarter performances.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett-deledio-admits-he-hasnt-been-told-hes-untouchable-when-it-comes-to-the-trade-table/news-story/cc7eec3821c75f34ec01191c2571d97d
The players are the only ones that seem confident in Dimma's game plan. Or at least they say they are?? The rest of us that watch it each week disagree. And the fact that we are 12th on the ladder and probably/hopefully heading south tells a different storey. Wake up FFS.
What do you expect him to do/say?, shitcan the club the coach, as if that's going to happen?
Honestly some people need to wake up FFS
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
I reckon it was well and truly over about 10 mins into the 2nd qtr after they piled on 6 goals in a row
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Would you trade deledio for tom mitchell and a second round pick?
Early second, yes.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
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AFL trade, Brett Deledio, Richmond Tigers
Sarah Olle
July 7, 2016
BRETT Deledio has rebuked suggestions he could be trade bait come season’s end, despite conceding the team “comes first”.
After the Tigers’ capitulation to Port Adelaide last weekend, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall suggested no one at Richmond was safe from the trade table.
Dunstall said it was imperative the Tigers traded whichever player could get them the right deal, regardless of whether they were the captain or a first-year player.
If Richmond was to rebuild and look to the draft, Deledio, 29, could be on the chopping block. The No. 1 draft pick has currency and could help the Tigers attain a first-round draft pick.
But he told Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight that he wouldn’t be putting his hand up for a trade.
“I haven’t been told directly that I’m not on the trade table, but when a club is in a position that we are then questions are going to be asked,” Deledio said on Wednesday.
“I’d like to think that I’d be welcomed back next year and the year after. The club always comes first and they have the decision to make, but as I said I’m contracted for next year so I won’t be putting up my hand to go anywhere.”
Deledio said he was disappointed at how the discussion regarding Richmond’s list had been played out in the media, saying he was confident in coach Damien Hardwick’s plan for the club.
“I wouldn’t want to be staying there myself if I didn’t believe (the club was heading in the right direction),” he said.
“We’re confident that what we’re building is working for us. It hasn’t been a great year for us this year, but we’re invested in what Dimma’s doing with us. We’ll be better for this bad patch of form this year.”
The 241-game veteran said the team had the high-end talent to rewire and again lead the club to finals in 2017. He singled out the top echelon of talent as the players capable of steering that change.
“I certainly don’t think we need to throw everyone out and completely rebuild,” Deledio said.
“I think we’ve got some good talent there. We’ve certainly shown we’ve got some high class players, like (Dustin Martin), Trent (Cotchin), Jack (Riewoldt) and (Alex Rance). We’ve got to try and build some younger guys around them and bring in some other talent as well.
“I don’t agree with Jason that we need to put everyone up because you could end up at the bottom of the ladder for a long period of time.”
In particular, Deledio was strident when it came to the question of trading the dual All-Australian full back in Alex Rance. To him, “Rancey” was untouchable.
“I’d be pretty disappointed if it was Rancey,” he said.
“I’d be disappointed if it was any of my close mates at the club or anyone for that matter. Rancey has been one of the shining lights this year, along with Dusty. He continues to battle his backside off, week in, week out with full four quarter performances.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett-deledio-admits-he-hasnt-been-told-hes-untouchable-when-it-comes-to-the-trade-table/news-story/cc7eec3821c75f34ec01191c2571d97d
The players are the only ones that seem confident in Dimma's game plan. Or at least they say they are?? The rest of us that watch it each week disagree. And the fact that we are 12th on the ladder and probably/hopefully heading south tells a different storey. Wake up FFS.
What do you expect him to do/say?, poocan the club the coach, as if that's going to happen?
Honestly some people need to wake up FFS
A couple of weeks ago he said we were still a chance to win a premiership this year. :lol
Most guys can say a lot without actually saying much.
We as supporters have to put up with the poor performance this year, we don't need to put up with players constantly talking crap about how good we are or how well someone is coaching when the results talk to themselves.
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actually we do.
we dont have to like it, but we have to put up with it
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AFL trade, Brett Deledio, Richmond Tigers
Sarah Olle
July 7, 2016
BRETT Deledio has rebuked suggestions he could be trade bait come season’s end, despite conceding the team “comes first”.
After the Tigers’ capitulation to Port Adelaide last weekend, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall suggested no one at Richmond was safe from the trade table.
Dunstall said it was imperative the Tigers traded whichever player could get them the right deal, regardless of whether they were the captain or a first-year player.
If Richmond was to rebuild and look to the draft, Deledio, 29, could be on the chopping block. The No. 1 draft pick has currency and could help the Tigers attain a first-round draft pick.
But he told Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight that he wouldn’t be putting his hand up for a trade.
“I haven’t been told directly that I’m not on the trade table, but when a club is in a position that we are then questions are going to be asked,” Deledio said on Wednesday.
“I’d like to think that I’d be welcomed back next year and the year after. The club always comes first and they have the decision to make, but as I said I’m contracted for next year so I won’t be putting up my hand to go anywhere.”
Deledio said he was disappointed at how the discussion regarding Richmond’s list had been played out in the media, saying he was confident in coach Damien Hardwick’s plan for the club.
“I wouldn’t want to be staying there myself if I didn’t believe (the club was heading in the right direction),” he said.
“We’re confident that what we’re building is working for us. It hasn’t been a great year for us this year, but we’re invested in what Dimma’s doing with us. We’ll be better for this bad patch of form this year.”
The 241-game veteran said the team had the high-end talent to rewire and again lead the club to finals in 2017. He singled out the top echelon of talent as the players capable of steering that change.
“I certainly don’t think we need to throw everyone out and completely rebuild,” Deledio said.
“I think we’ve got some good talent there. We’ve certainly shown we’ve got some high class players, like (Dustin Martin), Trent (Cotchin), Jack (Riewoldt) and (Alex Rance). We’ve got to try and build some younger guys around them and bring in some other talent as well.
“I don’t agree with Jason that we need to put everyone up because you could end up at the bottom of the ladder for a long period of time.”
In particular, Deledio was strident when it came to the question of trading the dual All-Australian full back in Alex Rance. To him, “Rancey” was untouchable.
“I’d be pretty disappointed if it was Rancey,” he said.
“I’d be disappointed if it was any of my close mates at the club or anyone for that matter. Rancey has been one of the shining lights this year, along with Dusty. He continues to battle his backside off, week in, week out with full four quarter performances.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett-deledio-admits-he-hasnt-been-told-hes-untouchable-when-it-comes-to-the-trade-table/news-story/cc7eec3821c75f34ec01191c2571d97d
The players are the only ones that seem confident in Dimma's game plan. Or at least they say they are?? The rest of us that watch it each week disagree. And the fact that we are 12th on the ladder and probably/hopefully heading south tells a different storey. Wake up FFS.
Wake up BT. It's called media training. They are forced to lie of te PC society
What do you expect him to say? Dimma is a flog with nfi? That'd go down well
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
:woohoo Dogged is back. :bow
C'mon BT, that sort talk is unecessary. As the great Dogged once said you can't have an opinion unless you've played the game at the highest level. We are all idiots in the light of this great mans natural glow. :rollin
We should be glad to hear of the great insights & pearls of wisdom this former AFL star has for us on all football issues, especially our club.
Deledio had never played a bad game & never let us down nor has Cotchin had trouble shaking the tag from second string hacks. The coach is a legend too and all is great at Punt road. :rollin
Please enlighten us oh great one. Tell us why our club is still failing when we have such superstars like Hampson, Brandon, Vickery, Chaplin, Houli, Griffiths, Grigg, Hunt & Astbury in our best 22.
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Corey enright 35 signed a new deal...
The guys a jet but IMHO a level below lids in most aspects of the game
If he does leave - if would e a huge boost to hawks / cats / gws next title tilt
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One club player :shh
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One club player :shh
Why would he want to leave when he can pick up 650k a year and never be questioned for peeweak efforts on field
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He'd make more on an open market
One reason he may want to leave is to play in a club that is not Shyte
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Clean kick and nothing else. Injuries biting.
30 next year.
Trade out and trade up
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Yep trade
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Clean kick and nothing else. Injuries biting.
30 next year.
Trade out and trade up
Marking
Defending
Handbling
Tackling
Running
JUmping
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Is going to have the same issues with his body at the start of every season, he is damaged goods in my opinion and will never be the player he once was.
Not sure who would take him off our hands and if someone does it would only be on the back of medical reports giving a positive outlook which i just dont think is the case.
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Is going to have the same issues with his body at the start of every season, he is damaged goods in my opinion and will never be the player he once was.
Not sure who would take him off our hands and if someone does it would only be on the back of medical reports giving a positive outlook which i just dont think is the case.
Gee whiz
Hawthorn / gws would bite our hand off
Fair enough to be on the down on lids bandwagon yet it's folly to think a top 6 club wouldn't be keen as mustard to get him
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pick 8 and pick 6 to the tigers for lids. Come on board prestia conca and some other jackson midget dud.
Only at the RFC. Will be a dean polo draft all over again.
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Why Deledio is not played in the forward half flank & left there stumps me
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I think by and large the back like is fairly poor and deledio back there help. A lot. In both defending and rebound. I think the like of short Menadue rioli are better for him being in the team too possibly.
If he were traded if like something significant. A young key forward would be good ideally in the h Cameron class. As that's proabley where the list has the biggest holes
Why Deledio is not played in the forward half flank & left there stumps me
Cause there is long stretches of the game when the team can not get the ball in the forward line.
He good as a defender too
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Firstly I thought this was not a good idea to trade Lids, I think he is a great player, however he could be a great premiership top up player and TBH he is not going to win a flag at RFC.
Sentimentally I say no but realistically it could be a win win for both parties.
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Agreed but stuff him
You blokes are tigers fans but not deledio fans
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
:woohoo Dogged is back. :bow
C'mon BT, that sort talk is unecessary. As the great Dogged once said you can't have an opinion unless you've played the game at the highest level. We are all idiots in the light of this great mans natural glow. :rollin
We should be glad to hear of the great insights & pearls of wisdom this former AFL star has for us on all football issues, especially our club.
Deledio had never played a bad game & never let us down nor has Cotchin had trouble shaking the tag from second string hacks. The coach is a legend too and all is great at Punt road. :rollin
Please enlighten us oh great one. Tell us why our club is still failing when we have such superstars like Hampson, Brandon, Vickery, Chaplin, Houli, Griffiths, Grigg, Hunt & Astbury in our best 22.
What's the matter chickflick are your poor little feelings hurt because you know nothing about footy, I'm much happier looking positively towards the players , rather than you ,you poor horrible little man.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
:woohoo Dogged is back. :bow
C'mon BT, that sort talk is unecessary. As the great Dogged once said you can't have an opinion unless you've played the game at the highest level. We are all idiots in the light of this great mans natural glow. :rollin
We should be glad to hear of the great insights & pearls of wisdom this former AFL star has for us on all football issues, especially our club.
Deledio had never played a bad game & never let us down nor has Cotchin had trouble shaking the tag from second string hacks. The coach is a legend too and all is great at Punt road. :rollin
Please enlighten us oh great one. Tell us why our club is still failing when we have such superstars like Hampson, Brandon, Vickery, Chaplin, Houli, Griffiths, Grigg, Hunt & Astbury in our best 22.
What's the matter chickflick are your poor little feelings hurt because you know nothing about footy, I'm much happier looking positively towards the players , rather than you ,you poor horrible little man.
If it please his excellency, bid me of little significance to ask you the question again,
Tell us oh great and excellent Dogged why our club is failing even though we have such great players that are as awesome as you say? Why do we struggle to win games with such superstars as Hampson, Brandon, Vickery, Chaplin, Houli, Griffiths, Grigg & Hunt in our best 22?
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
It's all good and well having a cry but the fact remains when the 2nd half started the game was not over. The were not junk time possessions
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
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Back to topic;
Think I might have changed my mind on this one. It would deeply sadden me to see Lids go, but in the scheme of things doesn't that mean its a good trade? Tomlinson and Collingwood's first rounder seems like it could get the job done (perhaps with a trade down of picks as a sweetner for them). He is ultimately only going to depreciate in value at this point in his career.
Prestia, Collingwoods first rounder and Tomlinson would be a good haul for our first rounder and Deledio imo.
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He will lose value in terms of future trade value
He will be better than bachelor Houli Morris hunt grigg conca as a defender option for a long time
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Back to topic;
Think I might have changed my mind on this one. It would deeply sadden me to see Lids go, but in the scheme of things doesn't that mean its a good trade? Tomlinson and Collingwood's first rounder seems like it could get the job done (perhaps with a trade down of picks as a sweetner for them). He is ultimately only going to depreciate in value at this point in his career.
Prestia, Collingwoods first rounder and Tomlinson would be a good haul for our first rounder and Deledio imo.
Collingwood don't have a first round pick.
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Back to topic;
Think I might have changed my mind on this one. It would deeply sadden me to see Lids go, but in the scheme of things doesn't that mean its a good trade? Tomlinson and Collingwood's first rounder seems like it could get the job done (perhaps with a trade down of picks as a sweetner for them). He is ultimately only going to depreciate in value at this point in his career.
Prestia, Collingwoods first rounder and Tomlinson would be a good haul for our first rounder and Deledio imo.
Collingwood don't have a first round pick.
GWS have it, as well as Tomlinson. Hence Tomlinson and C'Woods first rounder for Lids ;)
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
Of course it is acceptable bag the idiots - They are a pack of soft girly losers generally. Wake up.
I call you a three titted raccoon
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
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So it's not ok to spit on them as they walk down the race?
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
You don't want to make their families sad, do you?
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
You don't want to make their families sad, do you?
would you enjoy that?
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No captian planet I wouldn't
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
oh dear!
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
:clapping
"Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
- George Orwell
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
No no. I'm still waiting for him to answer my questions. :rollin
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
I'm no fraud and if not publicly degrading players is a fool then I embrace that. I just feel sorry for you and your like, I hope you have no influence over children with the poison you spit out towards fine young men. If you can't see that publicly denigrating the characters of young men over a game of football is weird then there is very little hope for you.
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
No no. I'm still waiting for him to answer my questions. :rollin
Give me your name then Blanche ,then we can catch up and discuss yours and my beliefs and other stuff.
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
I'm no fraud and if not publicly degrading players is a fool then I embrace that. I just feel sorry for you and your like, I hope you have no influence over children with the poison you spit out towards fine young men. If you can't see that publicly denigrating the characters of young men over a game of football is weird then there is very little hope for you.
:lol
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
It's all good and well having a cry but the fact remains when the 2nd half started the game was not over. The were not junk time possessions
Were you still shaking your pom-poms too?? :thumbsup
Game was well and truely over mate. And your boy was nowhere to be seen before half time.
Lids has plenty of runs on the board but against Port when the game/our season was on the line, he was missing in action.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
It's all good and well having a cry but the fact remains when the 2nd half started the game was not over. The were not junk time possessions
Were you still shaking your pom-poms too?? :thumbsup
Game was well and truely over mate. And your boy was nowhere to be seen before half time.
Lids has plenty of runs on the board but against Port when the game/our season was on the line, he was missing in action.
so you give up at half time little toe do you? plonker
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
It's all good and well having a cry but the fact remains when the 2nd half started the game was not over. The were not junk time possessions
Were you still shaking your pom-poms too?? :thumbsup
Game was well and truely over mate. And your boy was nowhere to be seen before half time.
Lids has plenty of runs on the board but against Port when the game/our season was on the line, he was missing in action.
so you give up at half time little toe do you? plonker
:lol
After reading your pathetic crap tonight i would take a breather mate. You sound like a little girl.
You are embarrassing.
And there is no way you ever played AFL footy because you sound like a bitch and as soft as many of our players are they wouldn't ever talk like you.
You are a fraud.
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He got 15 odd touches in the 'premership' third quarter when the game was very much still alive if the Club were not a right bunch of moron-plodders.
It's not that easy to play forward pocket in a crap team with three people on you when the instruction is to kick the ball to the wing / pocket in idiot coaching predictable manner
Game was over at half time.
Why is it do you think we don't play him onball anymore consistently?
game was not over at half time, again proving you are an idiot.
Mate, you are the f$&King idiot if you believe that.
Keep waving your pom-poms long into the last quarter did ya!
Wake up DHead!
It's all good and well having a cry but the fact remains when the 2nd half started the game was not over. The were not junk time possessions
Were you still shaking your pom-poms too?? :thumbsup
Game was well and truely over mate. And your boy was nowhere to be seen before half time.
Lids has plenty of runs on the board but against Port when the game/our season was on the line, he was missing in action.
so you give up at half time little toe do you? plonker
:lol
After reading your pathetic crap tonight i would take a breather mate. You sound like a little girl.
You are embarrassing.
And there is no way you ever played AFL footy because you sound like a bitch and as soft as many of our players are they wouldn't ever talk like you.
You are a fraud.
wrong again big moan , you make a habit of it.
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Suggest people stick to debating the issue/topic rather than resorting to cheap and childish name calling
Dont agree fine, but no need for the insults
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Only one person abusing everybody whilst making big claims about themselves and refusing to back them up.
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Only one person abusing everybody whilst making big claims about themselves and refusing to back them up.
Err No
Just sitck to the topic
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:rollin lids a keep for mine
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
You know, people might have your back if you confirmed which former afl player you are.
Til then your just a mortal like the rest of us.
This has nothing to do whether somebody has played footy or not (although tigerighteous doesn't sound like he has much idea) , it is about common respect and decency for the players , they enjoyed playing footy and they did it well enough to be playing at the top level , why when it doesn't work out as the so called supporters want it ...do they get your scorn. I don't get that at all, you can think somebody may not be up to it but publicly harangue them... as I said I don't get that, must give a sense of power to the football emasculated.
Sheesh :thumbsdown
You sir, are a fraud and a fool, kindly pee off....
No no. I'm still waiting for him to answer my questions. :rollin
Give me your name then Blanche ,then we can catch up and discuss yours and my beliefs and other stuff.
LOL Blanche! the old tart from the Golden girls ? HAHA!
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No you tell me tigerighteous why you think it is okay to belittle and denigrate our players at every opportunity ? Does this help our cause or does it just make you feel empowered in your little ,anonymous ,neutered world. How do you like being attacked anonymously you poor impersonation of a human? Do you think players and their family would enjoy your venom if they read it....But...but it's your right, your a supporter. I call you out you weak minded pinky.
As a member I will call it as I see it because this current crop is a far cry from the teams that gave this club its reputation as the most feared & revered club in the league, something that, as much as it pains me, possibly Whorethorn now possess.
This current group is the same mob that lost us an Elimination final to the 9th placed Cheats, in that one game all players playing that game lost all credibility as players as did the coach. As if this wasn't an important enough game already but playing the Scum cheats who made it by default in my opinion was the worse loss in the history of the club.
If that loss wasn't bad enough this very same group led by the same coach was useless enough to lose a tribute game for club legend Hafey, the one man that wouldn't have had most of these pansy mummy's boys in his team. As mindboggling a loss this was to some people, realistically for most of us this loss was not really that much of a shock. Why weren't we surprised? This group has already forged a reputation as soft and egg like & this club has become the laughing stock of the competition with acceptance of mediocrity & its ability to constantly find new ways to disappoint the members.
These losses are unforgivable unless they can, of coarse, one day finally redeem themselves with a premiership win. But as obvious as it is to some of us that this current group won't make it I understand that some still live with hope that by some miracle this same group will turn from being the softest team in the AFL to again feared for its uncompromising toughness. :rollin
Yes we could all be apologists like yourself and laud the next elimination final loss because "we made finals" OR we could be a little more realistic in calling players out for being soft useless squibs that should never be allowed to wear the jumper.
oh dear!
Agree or not I atleast answered your question. You have still failed to answer the question I asked you. Why don't you just answer the question?
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Suggest people stick to debating the issue/topic rather than resorting to cheap and childish name calling
Dont agree fine, but no need for the insults
You going soft WP? Or maybe you know who it is. :rollin
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Suggest people stick to debating the issue/topic rather than resorting to cheap and childish name calling
Dont agree fine, but no need for the insults
You going soft WP? Or maybe you know who it is. :rollin
I suspect the latter :gotigers
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Suggest people stick to debating the issue/topic rather than resorting to cheap and childish name calling
Dont agree fine, but no need for the insults
You going soft WP? Or maybe you know who it is. :rollin
Neither
But if you want me to snip away then I will but don't you or anyone sook when I remove any of your posts :whistle
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I get snipped all the time and I am just cracking jokes. I mean why did Ronald McDonald get snipped? Won't someone think of the children?
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Only one person abusing everybody whilst making big claims about themselves and refusing to back them up.
Err No
Just sitck to the topic
The topic seems to be is it ok to discuss footballers
Given it may hurt their feelings or wives...
Oy vey...
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Oi vey, what you going through your Yid phase now? What are you doing next week, Ancient Rome?
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Yes, goyim
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I get snipped all the time and I am just cracking jokes. I mean why did Ronald McDonald get snipped? Won't someone think of the children?
To be quite serious that is an important point to be raised, the children do need to be looked after
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Watson: Tigers should trade Deledio
Gilbert Gardiner
Herald Sun
August 1, 2016
FORMER Essendon champion Tim Watson says Richmond should follow St Kilda’s rebuild blueprint and trade experienced forward Brett Deledio.
The Saints made the bold decision to part ways with star midfielders Nick Dal Santo (North Melbourne) and Brendon Goddard (Essendon) to make room for exciting draft prospects.
St Kilda also traded Ben McEvoy to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 18 later used to recruit big-bodied midfielder Luke Dunstan.
“I think (Deledio) got potential to do what Goddard did and Dal Santo did in terms of what St Kilda did in their rebuild,” Watson said.
“They’re going to have to make some really tough decisions and I think one of the decisions that they should look at is (Brett) Deledio.
“And I think that can be a win-win for the club.
“You have that (trade) conversation with (Deledio) because you’ve got to have respect for your players and I believe there is a two-way respect there between Deledio and Richmond.”
Deledio has played just 11 games this year battling quadriceps and calf injuries.
“He’s got the ability to attract attention, get an earlier draft pick to be able to give themselves the opportunity to get some more talent into the football club,” Watson told SEN.
“And for Deledio then, it’s the opportunity for him to go to a club where he might have some success.”
Watson said all but three Tigers should be “fair game” on the trade table including skipper Trent Cotchin.
“I wouldn’t put Dustin Martin on the table, I wouldn’t put (Alex) Rance on the table. I wouldn’t put Jack Riewoldt on the table, I think everyone else might be fair game.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tim-watson-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio-to-fast-track-its-list-rebuild/news-story/f2b18dea78c1a94d0071587e43c00451
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Could get Fyfe, Bontempelli, Cameron, Stringer, Shiel, Kelly, Mumford, Goldstein, Hannebury, Franklin Hurley, Gray, Wines, Hogan, Petracca, Sloane, Cyril, Betts & the best 5 kids in the draft and Halfstep would still stuff it up...
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Watson: Tigers should trade Deledio
Gilbert Gardiner
Herald Sun
August 1, 2016
FORMER Essendon champion Tim Watson says Richmond should follow St Kilda’s rebuild blueprint and trade experienced forward Brett Deledio.
The Saints made the bold decision to part ways with star midfielders Nick Dal Santo (North Melbourne) and Brendon Goddard (Essendon) to make room for exciting draft prospects.
St Kilda also traded Ben McEvoy to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 18 later used to recruit big-bodied midfielder Luke Dunstan.
“I think (Deledio) got potential to do what Goddard did and Dal Santo did in terms of what St Kilda did in their rebuild,” Watson said.
“They’re going to have to make some really tough decisions and I think one of the decisions that they should look at is (Brett) Deledio.
“And I think that can be a win-win for the club.
“You have that (trade) conversation with (Deledio) because you’ve got to have respect for your players and I believe there is a two-way respect there between Deledio and Richmond.”
Deledio has played just 11 games this year battling quadriceps and calf injuries.
“He’s got the ability to attract attention, get an earlier draft pick to be able to give themselves the opportunity to get some more talent into the football club,” Watson told SEN.
“And for Deledio then, it’s the opportunity for him to go to a club where he might have some success.”
Watson said all but three Tigers should be “fair game” on the trade table including skipper Trent Cotchin.
“I wouldn’t put Dustin Martin on the table, I wouldn’t put (Alex) Rance on the table. I wouldn’t put Jack Riewoldt on the table, I think everyone else might be fair game.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tim-watson-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio-to-fast-track-its-list-rebuild/news-story/f2b18dea78c1a94d0071587e43c00451
I think Tim is only speaking in order to benefit his own team, just like the Ox ' s comments re: Vickery to dees
the other clubs and commentators aren't stupid they know what the problem is but won't say anything, they want us to trade out players and keep our coach whilst we fall further behind..
You know what would make the rest of the comp poo themselves?
Having the gonads to sack Hardwick, assistants and recruiting staff
Replace them with a proven coach like Bomber Thompson and quality assistants from other clubs (not cheap unskilled first year appointments) and going after recruiters like Wells or Hinds...
People that can change culture, no more Fukn yes men
Keep our top 5-6 players, keep our kids and then put the middle tier like vickery, C ellen, conca etc for trade and re draft/ build that middle quickly.
That's how we make progress.. Get it done :clapping
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Watson: Tigers should trade Deledio
Gilbert Gardiner
Herald Sun
August 1, 2016
FORMER Essendon champion Tim Watson says Richmond should follow St Kilda’s rebuild blueprint and trade experienced forward Brett Deledio.
The Saints made the bold decision to part ways with star midfielders Nick Dal Santo (North Melbourne) and Brendon Goddard (Essendon) to make room for exciting draft prospects.
St Kilda also traded Ben McEvoy to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 18 later used to recruit big-bodied midfielder Luke Dunstan.
“I think (Deledio) got potential to do what Goddard did and Dal Santo did in terms of what St Kilda did in their rebuild,” Watson said.
“They’re going to have to make some really tough decisions and I think one of the decisions that they should look at is (Brett) Deledio.
“And I think that can be a win-win for the club.
“You have that (trade) conversation with (Deledio) because you’ve got to have respect for your players and I believe there is a two-way respect there between Deledio and Richmond.”
Deledio has played just 11 games this year battling quadriceps and calf injuries.
“He’s got the ability to attract attention, get an earlier draft pick to be able to give themselves the opportunity to get some more talent into the football club,” Watson told SEN.
“And for Deledio then, it’s the opportunity for him to go to a club where he might have some success.”
Watson said all but three Tigers should be “fair game” on the trade table including skipper Trent Cotchin.
“I wouldn’t put Dustin Martin on the table, I wouldn’t put (Alex) Rance on the table. I wouldn’t put Jack Riewoldt on the table, I think everyone else might be fair game.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tim-watson-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio-to-fast-track-its-list-rebuild/news-story/f2b18dea78c1a94d0071587e43c00451
I think Tim is only speaking in order to benefit his own team, just like the Ox ' s comments re: Vickery to dees
the other clubs and commentators aren't stupid they know what the problem is but won't say anything, they want us to trade out players and keep our coach whilst we fall further behind..
You know what would make the rest of the comp poo themselves?
Having the gonads to sack Hardwick, assistants and recruiting staff
Replace them with a proven coach like Bomber Thompson and quality assistants from other clubs (not cheap unskilled first year appointments) and going after recruiters like Wells or Hinds...
People that can change culture, no more Fukn yes men
Keep our top 5-6 players, keep our kids and then put the middle tier like vickery, C ellen, conca etc for trade and re draft/ build that middle quickly.
That's how we make progress.. Get it done :clapping
Good post. Where has the ruthless ricmond gone.?
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But what do expect to get for a conca, Ellis or Vickery?
Another conca, Ellis and Vickery...
Even Vlaustin on his own wouldn't get us the talent we need.
The concept of flogging of a coth or Jack is valued around the draft picks we could grab.
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Watson: Tigers should trade Deledio
Gilbert Gardiner
Herald Sun
August 1, 2016
FORMER Essendon champion Tim Watson says Richmond should follow St Kilda’s rebuild blueprint and trade experienced forward Brett Deledio.
The Saints made the bold decision to part ways with star midfielders Nick Dal Santo (North Melbourne) and Brendon Goddard (Essendon) to make room for exciting draft prospects.
St Kilda also traded Ben McEvoy to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 18 later used to recruit big-bodied midfielder Luke Dunstan.
“I think (Deledio) got potential to do what Goddard did and Dal Santo did in terms of what St Kilda did in their rebuild,” Watson said.
“They’re going to have to make some really tough decisions and I think one of the decisions that they should look at is (Brett) Deledio.
“And I think that can be a win-win for the club.
“You have that (trade) conversation with (Deledio) because you’ve got to have respect for your players and I believe there is a two-way respect there between Deledio and Richmond.”
Deledio has played just 11 games this year battling quadriceps and calf injuries.
“He’s got the ability to attract attention, get an earlier draft pick to be able to give themselves the opportunity to get some more talent into the football club,” Watson told SEN.
“And for Deledio then, it’s the opportunity for him to go to a club where he might have some success.”
Watson said all but three Tigers should be “fair game” on the trade table including skipper Trent Cotchin.
“I wouldn’t put Dustin Martin on the table, I wouldn’t put (Alex) Rance on the table. I wouldn’t put Jack Riewoldt on the table, I think everyone else might be fair game.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tim-watson-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio-to-fast-track-its-list-rebuild/news-story/f2b18dea78c1a94d0071587e43c00451
I think Tim is only speaking in order to benefit his own team, just like the Ox ' s comments re: Vickery to dees
the other clubs and commentators aren't stupid they know what the problem is but won't say anything, they want us to trade out players and keep our coach whilst we fall further behind..
You know what would make the rest of the comp poo themselves?
Having the gonads to sack Hardwick, assistants and recruiting staff
Replace them with a proven coach like Bomber Thompson and quality assistants from other clubs (not cheap unskilled first year appointments) and going after recruiters like Wells or Hinds...
People that can change culture, no more Fukn yes men
Keep our top 5-6 players, keep our kids and then put the middle tier like vickery, C ellen, conca etc for trade and re draft/ build that middle quickly.
That's how we make progress.. Get it done :clapping
Thats one of the best posts i have read and 100% right.
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It'll all be a waste of time and energy unless the whole footy department are changed first.
BJ & Betamax should be the first to go and Dumma Halfstep should follow with all his yesmen right behind him. All this before even thinking about trades.
If it's not a complete overhaul the club will just make the same mistakes all over again
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It'll all be a waste of time and energy unless the whole footy department are changed first.
BJ & Betamax should be the first to go and Dumma Halfstep should follow with all his yesmen right behind him. All this before even thinking about trades.
If it's not a complete overhaul the club will just make the same mistakes all over again
Well unfortunately thats not going to happen BH already re-signed.
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Get Bomber and Pelchen.
I'd still Trade Lids and possible Edwards and Cotch and look to get a big war chest of first round picks. Back Pelchan and his team to get the picks right at a better rate than FJ.
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Watson: Tigers should trade Deledio
Gilbert Gardiner
Herald Sun
August 1, 2016
FORMER Essendon champion Tim Watson says Richmond should follow St Kilda’s rebuild blueprint and trade experienced forward Brett Deledio.
The Saints made the bold decision to part ways with star midfielders Nick Dal Santo (North Melbourne) and Brendon Goddard (Essendon) to make room for exciting draft prospects.
St Kilda also traded Ben McEvoy to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 18 later used to recruit big-bodied midfielder Luke Dunstan.
“I think (Deledio) got potential to do what Goddard did and Dal Santo did in terms of what St Kilda did in their rebuild,” Watson said.
“They’re going to have to make some really tough decisions and I think one of the decisions that they should look at is (Brett) Deledio.
“And I think that can be a win-win for the club.
“You have that (trade) conversation with (Deledio) because you’ve got to have respect for your players and I believe there is a two-way respect there between Deledio and Richmond.”
Deledio has played just 11 games this year battling quadriceps and calf injuries.
“He’s got the ability to attract attention, get an earlier draft pick to be able to give themselves the opportunity to get some more talent into the football club,” Watson told SEN.
“And for Deledio then, it’s the opportunity for him to go to a club where he might have some success.”
Watson said all but three Tigers should be “fair game” on the trade table including skipper Trent Cotchin.
“I wouldn’t put Dustin Martin on the table, I wouldn’t put (Alex) Rance on the table. I wouldn’t put Jack Riewoldt on the table, I think everyone else might be fair game.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tim-watson-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio-to-fast-track-its-list-rebuild/news-story/f2b18dea78c1a94d0071587e43c00451
I think Tim is only speaking in order to benefit his own team, just like the Ox ' s comments re: Vickery to dees
the other clubs and commentators aren't stupid they know what the problem is but won't say anything, they want us to trade out players and keep our coach whilst we fall further behind..
You know what would make the rest of the comp poo themselves?
Having the gonads to sack Hardwick, assistants and recruiting staff
Replace them with a proven coach like Bomber Thompson and quality assistants from other clubs (not cheap unskilled first year appointments) and going after recruiters like Wells or Hinds...
People that can change culture, no more Fukn yes men
Keep our top 5-6 players, keep our kids and then put the middle tier like vickery, C ellen, conca etc for trade and re draft/ build that middle quickly.
That's how we make progress.. Get it done :clapping
Thats one of the best posts i have read and 100% right.
Yeah
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Deledio to GWS for Steele and Tomlinson (at a minimum).
That's a good start :thumbsup:
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Deledio to GWS for Steele and Tomlinson (at a minimum).
That's a good start :thumbsup:
Dunoo played 8 games this year...12 touches a game... 23/24 yoa next year
We getting screwed... Also gws would be unbeatable of they can get a few years out of lids
For mine eat-em-alive above comments pretty much on the money
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Deledio to GWS for Steele and Tomlinson (at a minimum).
That's a good start :thumbsup:
Dunoo played 8 games this year...12 touches a game... 23/24 yoa next year
We getting screwed... Also gws would be unbeatable of they can get a few years out of lids
For mine eat-em-alive above comments pretty much on the money
Tomlinson is a forward who can play mid - good size at 193/94, but is trying to get a spot alongside Cameron, Patton and now Johnson in the GWS F50 and we know how talented their midfield is too with Coniglio, Shiel, Ward, Smith, Greene, Griffin, Kelly, Scully, Steele, Whitfield (actually ridiculous when you think of how shallow our's is).
Has played 9 games in the NEAFL this year and is averaging 32 disposals, 1.33 goals, 11 marks, 3 tackles, 7 I50's and 3 R50's. All this being allowed to play midfield and F50. I know the magoos can make some players look like Brownlows but all the reports I've heard is that this kid can play very well and is just not getting a crack similar to Miles.
Anyway he's a target for me, KPP and would probably not be hard to pry away from the club with the prospect of just getting some games...
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Has some toughness too him too. Not silly Townsend toughness where he just throws his body around stupidly but smart (for a want of a better word) toughness I guess is how I'd put it
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Neafl is Shyte
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Get Bomber and Pelchen.
I'd still Trade Lids and possible Edwards and Cotch and look to get a big war chest of first round picks. Back Pelchan and his team to get the picks right at a better rate than FJ.
Pelchen has rated Lids as a trade in the 18-25 bracket and Prestia in the 8-15 bracket on SEN today.
Both of which make sense.
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Get Bomber and Pelchen.
I'd still Trade Lids and possible Edwards and Cotch and look to get a big war chest of first round picks. Back Pelchan and his team to get the picks right at a better rate than FJ.
Pelchen has rated Lids as a trade in the 18-25 bracket and Prestia in the 8-15 bracket on SEN today.
Both of which make sense.
Yeah I heard Pelchen in that interview. I pretty much agree with him regarding Prestia, Lids and what he was saying about o'meara and Vickery but feel we could get more for lids if the right buyer comes along - Lids would suit someone like GWS down to the ground and I think we could therefore get a deal more beneficial for us. They traded Boyd for griffen at the same age (29) and Griff had a history of back problems - reckon Lids is a better player too. Yes Boyd forced their hand a bit but still think we could and should expect more (unless his achilles really is stuffed)
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Get Bomber and Pelchen.
I'd still Trade Lids and possible Edwards and Cotch and look to get a big war chest of first round picks. Back Pelchan and his team to get the picks right at a better rate than FJ.
Pelchen has rated Lids as a trade in the 18-25 bracket and Prestia in the 8-15 bracket on SEN today.
Both of which make sense.
Yeah I heard Pelchen in that interview. I pretty much agree with him regarding Prestia, Lids and what he was saying about o'meara and Vickery but feel we could get more for lids if the right buyer comes along - someone like GWS would be very eager and I think we could get a deal more beneficial for us. They traded Boyd for griffen at the same age (29) and Griff had a history of back problems - reckon Lids is a better player too
Considering they have 2 first rounders plus their academy kids GWS can really afford to pay overs for Lids. I mean, I know its wishful thinking but look at what they've got out of Stevie J (and IMO Lids is as good if not better than him).
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agree dougey
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Get Bomber and Pelchen.
I'd still Trade Lids and possible Edwards and Cotch and look to get a big war chest of first round picks. Back Pelchan and his team to get the picks right at a better rate than FJ.
Pelchen has rated Lids as a trade in the 18-25 bracket and Prestia in the 8-15 bracket on SEN today.
Both of which make sense.
GWS offered pick 4 for Stevie J a couple years ago. Could we get the same for Deledio?
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GWS don't need Lids know that is the problem
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GWS don't need Lids know that is the problem
Care to elaborate? You know they're not interested?
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Pelchen saying Lids is only worth a late first round pick.
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Meanwhile at Punt Road, the Tigers horror on-field performances have led to calls to trade some senior players, chief among them Brett Deledio.
Deledio, the No.1 pick in 2004, is now 29 and has been battling Achilles and calf injuries for the past two years but is a proven performer and would fit a premiership contender.
Pelchen said the classy midfielder was still worthy of a late first-round selection.
“He’s been an outstanding player and he’s still got good football left in him but the calf injury that has bothered him recently is a pesky injury,” he said.
“He is still of value to a club that is about to compete at the top end of the ladder or is already there.
“I’d say he’s more a player to get around 18 to 25 in a trade sense.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-pelchen-reveals-what-big-name-trade-targets-could-be-worth-in-afl-trade-period/news-story/102dc7365eeed93e3256ac56415174be
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I would trade lids for a top 10 pick . Pick 10-15 would definitely have to involve the adding of some steak knives.
But a pick 18-25 is just plain insulting. No sale.
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I would trade lids for a top 10 pick . Pick 10-15 would definitely have to involve the adding of some steak knives.
But a pick 18-25 is just plain insulting. No sale.
Given that he can hardly get on the park I'd be worried that he won't attract a pick that high.
He'll be lucky to play more than 35 games in the next two years.
Ironic that people bag Prestia as a option for having a meniscus tear in his knee and only playing 11 games this year when Lids has played the same amount.
Would consider a straight swap personally...
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McConville also manages star flanker Brett Deledio and said the 29-year-old was desperate to stay at Richmond.
“At this point in time we all know (Deledio) is contracted and wants to stay, so we will leave Brett to have those discussions with them.”
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-lennon-has-requested-a-trade-out-of-richmond-after-three-seasons-at-the-club/news-story/7e573ba862668b99ae62ff9d1c707670)
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Barrett tonight saying Lids staying at Richmond is 50/50. Geelong the latest club showing interest.
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To Footscray for Stringer. :clapping
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To Footscray for Stringer. :clapping
Where can I sign (on his behalf)....
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To Footscray for Stringer. :clapping
:clapping
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Only dh's would listen to Barrett
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Lids can't even be stuffed playing at RIchmond so good luck trying to get him to go somewhere else to do the same.
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Would kick ass at cats
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Hes only 'desperate' to stay because hes super tight with his mates.
Well, would have thought the club comes first mate.
Trade.
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He can be friends with dangerfield Hawkins selwood
Would be a great get for Geelong
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He is a cancer in the joint, thinks he is better than everyone else! Has that high of an opinion of himself its not funny
This bloke wont even engage with the young members, the kids that adore their stars, the kids whose parents pay money for memberships that pay his wage.
This average human every single time we win fir the last 4 years only ever goes straight to the race with his footy, never goes anywhere else, never prepared to walk an extra yard to see the kids on the fence. For every win at the MCG that means he goes to the MCC Members and hands the footy to a kid there, not to the RFC members who pay his god damn wage.
Has thought he is above everyone else for a long time now and for mine, time to move him on and for the RFC to move on, otherwise this cancer will continue to bog this place down.
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
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What pick does Geelong have? 16?
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
Fair enough too...
In comparison to the moron hacks and oxygen theifs at the joint
They are Sposed to win football games not Nobel peace prizes. WGAF
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Geelong b22 looks pretty dam strong with a thur low or Cowan replaced by lids
:o
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Barrett tonight saying Lids staying at Richmond is 50/50. Geelong the latest club showing interest.
Can't tell if that means he's 100% gone or 100% staying.
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
Fair enough too...
In comparison to the moron hacks and oxygen theifs at the joint
Of course its fair enough
Same way he sooks up whenever hes challenged by the group and gets ultra defensive, he simply just thinks he is gods gift
i say dont let the door hit you on the way out
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
Fair enough too...
In comparison to the moron hacks and oxygen theifs at the joint
Of course its fair enough
Same way he sooks up whenever hes challenged by the group and gets ultra defensive, he simply just thinks he is gods gift
i say dont let the door hit you on the way out
To be fair Surely you agree it's kind of funny Chaplin Houli Hampson grigg sitting around
"Well deledio you have not been good enough we are afraid. Damien and us really require you to do better "
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What pick does Geelong have? 16?
Traded it to Adelaide for Dangerfield?
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Cocka and balcavz
:shh
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
Team game
Fair enough too...
In comparison to the moron hacks and oxygen theifs at the joint
Of course its fair enough
Same way he sooks up whenever hes challenged by the group and gets ultra defensive, he simply just thinks he is gods gift
i say dont let the door hit you on the way out
To be fair Surely you agree it's kind of funny Chaplin Houli Hampson grigg sitting around
"Well deledio you have not been good enough we are afraid. Damien and us really require you to do better "
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How dare deledio think he's better than the spuds on the list
:huh
As a person he believes he is better than everyone in the joint, never mentioned his ability
Fair enough too...
In comparison to the moron hacks and oxygen theifs at the joint
Of course its fair enough
Same way he sooks up whenever hes challenged by the group and gets ultra defensive, he simply just thinks he is gods gift
i say dont let the door hit you on the way out
How do you know?
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Barrett tonight saying Lids staying at Richmond is 50/50. Geelong the latest club showing interest.
Can't tell if that means he's 100% gone or 100% staying.
Thats a 50% chance that he's 100% going
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He is a cancer in the joint, thinks he is better than everyone else! Has that high of an opinion of himself its not funny
This bloke wont even engage with the young members, the kids that adore their stars, the kids whose parents pay money for memberships that pay his wage.
This average human every single time we win fir the last 4 years only ever goes straight to the race with his footy, never goes anywhere else, never prepared to walk an extra yard to see the kids on the fence. For every win at the MCG that means he goes to the MCC Members and hands the footy to a kid there, not to the RFC members who pay his god damn wage.
Has thought he is above everyone else for a long time now and for mine, time to move him on and for the RFC to move on, otherwise this cancer will continue to bog this place down.
Harsh but fair and true, gives nothing
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He is a cancer in the joint, thinks he is better than everyone else! Has that high of an opinion of himself its not funny
This bloke wont even engage with the young members, the kids that adore their stars, the kids whose parents pay money for memberships that pay his wage.
This average human every single time we win fir the last 4 years only ever goes straight to the race with his footy, never goes anywhere else, never prepared to walk an extra yard to see the kids on the fence. For every win at the MCG that means he goes to the MCC Members and hands the footy to a kid there, not to the RFC members who pay his god damn wage.
Has thought he is above everyone else for a long time now and for mine, time to move him on and for the RFC to move on, otherwise this cancer will continue to bog this place down.
gagf lol
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He is a cancer in the joint, thinks he is better than everyone else! Has that high of an opinion of himself its not funny
This bloke wont even engage with the young members, the kids that adore their stars, the kids whose parents pay money for memberships that pay his wage.
This average human every single time we win fir the last 4 years only ever goes straight to the race with his footy, never goes anywhere else, never prepared to walk an extra yard to see the kids on the fence. For every win at the MCG that means he goes to the MCC Members and hands the footy to a kid there, not to the RFC members who pay his god damn wage.
Has thought he is above everyone else for a long time now and for mine, time to move him on and for the RFC to move on, otherwise this cancer will continue to bog this place down.
Harsh but fair and true, gives nothing
:gobdrop
Obviously not the same Brett Deledio who early on in his careeer spent a fair chunk of time talking to my niece & nephew at a clinic up on the Gold Coast.
Was nothing ubt friendly and govong of his time. Think hes got better at it as he's got older
I certainly wouldnt trading him.
My philosophy on trading is very simple and i know most wont agree but form mine our top 5 you dont trade unless its a monster deal. anyone after that is on the table.
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He is a cancer in the joint, thinks he is better than everyone else! Has that high of an opinion of himself its not funny
This bloke wont even engage with the young members, the kids that adore their stars, the kids whose parents pay money for memberships that pay his wage.
This average human every single time we win fir the last 4 years only ever goes straight to the race with his footy, never goes anywhere else, never prepared to walk an extra yard to see the kids on the fence. For every win at the MCG that means he goes to the MCC Members and hands the footy to a kid there, not to the RFC members who pay his god damn wage.
Has thought he is above everyone else for a long time now and for mine, time to move him on and for the RFC to move on, otherwise this cancer will continue to bog this place down.
Harsh but fair and true, gives nothing
:gobdrop
Obviously not the same Brett Deledio who early on in his careeer spent a fair chunk of time talking to my niece & nephew at a clinic up on the Gold Coast.
Was nothing ubt friendly and govong of his time. Think hes got better at it as he's got older
I certainly wouldnt trading him.
My philosophy on trading is very simple and i know most wont agree but form mine our top 5 you dont trade unless its a monster deal. anyone after that is on the table.
I dont doubt you, and never wouldve thought that way until a few years back. First noticed it on the plane back from the port EF debacle, wifey and I were lucky enough to be seated right in amongst the whole group at the front of the plane. 2 kids went up the front of the plane where he was sitting and asked for his autograph he rolled his eyes and fellow players were snickering like they knew how much he detested it, but he signed it, then some other kids started walking down the aisle and he threw his hands up and the assistant coaches told the kids not now later. There was no later. Think it was sad, the first kid went straight past everyone, cotch, rance, maric etc and went only to Brett. Other players didnt have a problem signing for the kids
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Has depression. :rollin
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Hey he might not be great with other peoples kids and might be figjam mkII but still not a reason to get rid of him, I mean we don't throw Ox out of the joint do we? He scares the kids too!
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come to think of it if what you are all saying is true, he sound like a bit of a prick...
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At least one of the top five need to go and Deletions is the more expedient. Btw I thought I'd leave the spell check mistake as it is ironically appropriate.
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Geez when the ferals turn they sure turn quick and on everyone
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Had taken the kids to get autographs for years, never had a problem with Lids. He does come off a touch rich but that doesn't bother me too much, though I can see the point you are making. Reckon Cotchin was the best from memory always took the time and asked questions of each kid like he was engaged and happy to be part of it. Jack is a champion and always cool to sign stuff for the kids though even he looks tired or less engaged at times and theres nothing wrong with that. They are human.
I'm sure Dustys a nice bloke, but he was fairly quiet and that's fair enough not everyone likes heaps of attention, neither do I.
Not everyone is a people person, I can only ask these guys to go out and be the best footy player each can be. I would much rather them just be good footballers and happy to sign stuff than be p.c happy, bubbly blokes.
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"Lids was rude to my stupid ugly child hence should be traded"
Gee whiz he's Sposed to do football well not suck up to your offspring
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He could have walked years ago and would have won brownlows etc at a Hawthorn or Geelong.
Played from the backline for years cos we had no one else.
Has been a pretty loyal servant to the club IMO.
Would not begrudge his success at a decently run club.
If he is an autograph princess, who cares?
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He could have walked years ago and would have won brownlows etc at a Hawthorn or Geelong.
Played from the backline for years cos we had no one else.
Has been a pretty loyal servant to the club IMO.
Would not begrudge his success at a decently run club.
If he is an autograph princess, who cares?
Your jack types that rate then self highly for some unknown reason
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Delist immediately, no trade! This outrageous behavior by tired players not falling over themselves to perform for the kiddies on demand is too much for me
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Delist immediately, no trade! This outrageous behavior by tired players not falling over themselves to perform for the kiddies on demand is too much for me
Its good enough for the rest of the team but not this self absorbed flog! one in all in, don't see any of the hawthorn team behaving like this, but hey you can just be an ignorant fool and accept the mediocrity that's been served up for years over and over.
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FMD there are some nutters on the loose
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Delist immediately, no trade! This outrageous behavior by tired players not falling over themselves to perform for the kiddies on demand is too much for me
Its good enough for the rest of the team but not this self absorbed flog! one in all in, don't see any of the hawthorn team behaving like this, but hey you can just be an ignorant fool and accept the mediocrity that's been served up for years over and over.
Theres something in that.
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Kids should sit down and stfu on a plane and not annoy adults. Every other bloke gets treated like a pedophile on planes and isn't allowed to sit next to an unaccompanied kid for 'fear of molestation' so if Brett Deledio doesn't want some other persons brat crueling his mellow, stiff 5 h 1 +. Personally I don't mind kids, they crack me up but I know and understand people who are agitated around them and that is fair enough too.
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Well, you both can't be right.
Time everybody took a backwards step me thinks.
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How would you like being asked to sign autographs every time you're in public.
Scenario
Daddy says
"Little Johnny, there's Brett Delidio, go up and ask him to sign your footy record"
Little Johnny says
"But Daddy thats your footy record"
Daddy says
"Son, shut your hole and get Bretts signature on my footy record"
Unbeknownst to Daddy and Little Johnny, Brett has heard the whole thing and tells Little Johnny to stuff off.
Little Johnny doesn't care but Daddy's panties are all twisted in a big sad wad.
As soon as he gets some pc time he logs into OER and bags Brett.
:lol :lol
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get a load of the mother hens in here coming to Lids' rescue :police: :police: :police:
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I just support his stance on fighting back against airlines dictating terms on when it is ok for men to be near with children and pushing men around and poo
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Calm down everyone. I wont ask again >:(
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get a load of the mother hens in here coming to Lids' rescue :police: :police: :police:
The trick to getting a levelled response is to then apply the same scenario to someone like Conca or Hunt and between the two polarising responses you can find a level headed answer. Just have to remember everything on this site is on a spectrum and just like most people's moods in here jump to both extremes, so to do their love/hate for a player. You just have to average it out
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Children should stfu in general not just on aircraft
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Children should stfu in general not just on aircraft
Are you W. C. Fields?
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Children should stfu in general not just on aircraft
Thats about the most far right thing ive ever seen from ya mate!
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One minute it is signatures on a plane next thing they are in Apex doing home invasions ! where does it end??
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How would you like being asked to sign autographs every time you're in public.
Scenario
Daddy says
"Little Johnny, there's Brett Delidio, go up and ask him to sign your footy record"
Little Johnny says
"But Daddy thats your footy record"
Daddy says
"Son, shut your hole and get Bretts signature on my footy record"
Unbeknownst to Daddy and Little Johnny, Brett has heard the whole thing and tells Little Johnny to stuff off.
Little Johnny doesn't care but Daddy's panties are all twisted in a big sad wad.
As soon as he gets some pc time he logs into OER and bags Brett.
:lol :lol
Uneducated flog
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How would you like being asked to sign autographs every time you're in public.
Scenario
Daddy says
"Little Johnny, there's Brett Delidio, go up and ask him to sign your footy record"
Little Johnny says
"But Daddy thats your footy record"
Daddy says
"Son, shut your hole and get Bretts signature on my footy record"
Unbeknownst to Daddy and Little Johnny, Brett has heard the whole thing and tells Little Johnny to stuff off.
Little Johnny doesn't care but Daddy's panties are all twisted in a big sad wad.
As soon as he gets some pc time he logs into OER and bags Brett.
:lol :lol
Uneducated flog
why the angst?
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Hey dogged have you ever posted an opinion (or fact) on here or is it your thing to just question everything people say as if you are somehow superior?
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Dogged is right, why the angst? Sounds like it is pretty personal and bitter, I am curious too
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Just for the record Lids has always been up for autographs with my kids
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There ya go
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Just for the record Lids has always been up for autographs with my kids
Oh well, there we go. An official account of kindness for the forum to note :shh
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Just for the record Lids has always been up for autographs with my kids
How many kids have you got Chucky... :shh
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Wallace says Tigers should trade Deledio
Al Paton
Herald Sun
5 Sept. 2016
THE man who brought Brett Deledio to Richmond as a No.1 draft pick in 2004 now says the Tigers need to trade him to another club.
Terry Wallace says Richmond has failed to nail its draft picks since Dustin Martin arrived in 2009, and made the problem worse by recycling ready-made players rather than developing its own.
Wallace said trading Deledio plus the likely departures of three first-round draft picks — Reece Conca, Ty Vickery and Ben Lennon — could allow the Tigers to keep their No.6 pick in this year’s draft.
That selection is expected to head to Gold Coast in a swap for Dion Prestia.
That would deal Richmond out of the draft until the third round after the Tigers gave away their second-round pick to the Suns last year as part of the Chris Yarran deal.
“If you want Dion Prestia in and you don’t want to give away pick six, I think you could actually work this one,” Wallace said.
He said Deledio was worth a late first-round pick while the Tigers could pick up second-round selections for Lennon and Conca.
Vickery’s departure would trigger a free agent compensation pick, also likely to be in the second round.
Wallace said that could allow Richmond to package up selections worth more points to Gold Coast than pick six.
Deledio says he hasn’t met with any other clubs and trade speculation is “all hearsay and rumour”.
The 29-year-old is the last surviving recruit from Wallace’s first draft as Richmond coach.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/former-coach-terry-wallace-says-richmond-should-trade-brett-deledio/news-story/cb2335e1384f3979e27e4a7789450fad
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Just for the record Lids has always been up for autographs with my kids
How many kids have you got Chucky... :shh
The ones he knows about for sure or an estimate? Chuck is a virile mofo and I believe is Catholic (kinda)
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Wallace says Tigers should trade Deledio
THE man who brought Brett Deledio to Richmond as a No.1 draft pick in 2004 now says the Tigers need to trade him to another club.
Terry Wallace says Richmond has failed to nail its draft picks since Dustin Martin arrived in 2009, and made the problem worse by recycling ready-made players rather than developing its own.
What a liar this man is.
Just look at the first line. Total lie.
The draft picks for that year were already made before Wallace joined.
And if you take credit for Deledio you also take credit for the other four picks inside 20. Tambling, Meyer, Pattison and Polo.
This lying piece of crap needs to get a career outside of trying to establish a media reputation while lying about his time at Richmond.
The only truth you need to know is he was so unpopular that the current captain (Newman), the former captain (Johnson) and a team leader (King) all asked him to resign.
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Wallace says Tigers should trade Deledio
THE man who brought Brett Deledio to Richmond as a No.1 draft pick in 2004 now says the Tigers need to trade him to another club.
Terry Wallace says Richmond has failed to nail its draft picks since Dustin Martin arrived in 2009, and made the problem worse by recycling ready-made players rather than developing its own.
What a liar this man is.
Just look at the first line. Total lie.
The draft picks for that year were already made before Wallace joined.
And if you take credit for Deledio you also take credit for the other four picks inside 20. Tambling, Meyer, Pattison and Polo.
This lying piece of crap needs to get a career outside of trying to establish a media reputation while lying about his time at Richmond.
The only truth you need to know is he was so unpopular that the current captain (Newman), the former captain (Johnson) and a team leader (King) all asked him to resign.
Think you missed the point.
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"It would be a sad sight to see - if you're a Richmond fan.
Prepare yourselves though Tiger supporters, it certainly could happen. The Cats are very interested."
#AFLTRDON
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Straight swap for ruggles. Nothing less.
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On a serious note if he goes to Geelong what do we want in exchange?
First rounder and Blicavs?
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Or Menegola maybe?
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Probably the only real chance he'll get to ever beat Geelong again is if he plays in their intra-club matches....
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Straight swap for ruggles. Nothing less.
How would Mr Ruggles feel about going from being a Cat to a Tiger?
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On a serious note if he goes to Geelong what do we want in exchange?
First rounder and Blicavs?
I'd straight swap for Blicavs in a heartbeat
Doubt Geelong would do it, let alone the insanity of a first round pick as well
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On a serious note if he goes to Geelong what do we want in exchange?
First rounder and Blicavs?
I'd straight swap for Blicavs in a heartbeat
Doubt Geelong would do it, let alone the insanity of a first round pick as well
Geez he's not Polly farmer
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Just to be clear they don't have a first rounder from this year as they traded for Danger.
If you're referring to next years first rounder, if they repeat next year like last it'll be around 20odd after concessions etc. Not worth IMO
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now said he's heard Steven Motlop will be involved in a Deledio trade if it happened. He finds it odd that Richmond in a rebuild mode would swap Deledio for a player like Motlop rather than a draft pick(s). So he's thinking it might be a three-way trade with another club.
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Just to be clear they don't have a first rounder from this year as they traded for Danger.
If you're referring to next years first rounder, if they repeat next year like last it'll be around 20odd after concessions etc. Not worth IMO
Can't trade future first rounders twice in a row so it won't happen anyway ::)
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Brett Anderson on SEN just now said he's heard Steven Motlop will be involved in a Deledio trade if it happened. He finds it odd that Richmond in a rebuild mode would swap Deledio for a player like Motlop rather than a draft pick(s). So he's thinking it might be a three-way trade with another club.
Would certainly make more sense. - so therefore probably not the case.....
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Because we got such a bargain with Taylor Hunt think their 4th rounder for Lids would be fair. Our way of saying thanks.
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On a serious note if he goes to Geelong what do we want in exchange?
First rounder and Blicavs?
I'd straight swap for Blicavs in a heartbeat
Doubt Geelong would do it, let alone the insanity of a first round pick as well
Nah not a trade I would entertain.
Needs a sweetener - such as their 2nd round pick for example.
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On a serious note if he goes to Geelong what do we want in exchange?
First rounder and Blicavs?
I'd straight swap for Blicavs in a heartbeat
Doubt Geelong would do it, let alone the insanity of a first round pick as well
Nah not a trade I would entertain.
Needs a sweetener - such as their 2nd round pick for example.
Do they have that one. I know they gave up something for Henderson from the Blues. I'm not sure but I think their first pick is a 3rd rounder.
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Henderson was traded for this year's first rounder, Dangerfield & pick 50 for last year's first, second & Dean Gore...their first pick this year will be in the second round...
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Could it be Motlop plus to the Goldcoast
Lids to Gelong
Prestia to Richmond
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Could it be Motlop plus to the Goldcoast
Lids to Gelong
Prestia to Richmond
Was talking to a rabid bulldogs supporter on Tuesday about this exact trade scenario. Its beautiful. Almost perfectly orgasmic
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suns wouldnt be happy with motlop for prestia surely?
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Could it be Motlop plus to the Goldcoast
Lids to Gelong
Prestia to Richmond
Was talking to a rabid bulldogs supporter on Tuesday about this exact trade scenario. Its beautiful. Almost perfectly orgasmic
Would rather trade pick 6 now and keep Lids as we'd recruit another dud with pick 6
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We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.
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We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.
Like trading both picks for yarran. Yep that works
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From The Age....
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-star-brett-deledios-punt-road-future-uncertain-20160913-grfkkc.html
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From The Age....
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-star-brett-deledios-punt-road-future-uncertain-20160913-grfkkc.html
Lmao.
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What would a good list management / senior coach do such as the doggies - with lods and Richmond list?
I thought they were smart and brave with the Boyd deal
However he has retained the like of and is gettin really good footy out of:
R Murphy
M Boyd
D Morris
They have also improved and or bought in J Adcock, L Picken, T Dickson, M Suckling
My feeling is a more talented people would formulate a plan to build around deledio
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
Can't argue with that. Apparently Carlton have nailed list management after winning 6 games too
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
Bravo! :clapping
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
Correct. You need ti back it up. The bulldogs have been able to they have balls to make the big moves sack the coach trade away their captain get rid of their ceo.
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
Correct. You need ti back it up. The bulldogs have been able to they have balls to make the big moves sack the coach trade away their captain get rid of their ceo.
:clapping
Hardened standards beget hardened results.
Richmond however are the soft touch.
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Limp wrist tigers
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maybe it stems from the attitude of justifying a players bad traits with the "everyone else is the same" defence, or blaming everyone else but the players themselves?
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
It would by me
Pick 1
Kpp
Nae grow trees
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Lids wont be going anywhere as lids states he is over these rumours so are we why arnt there rumpurs of morris hunt Elton moore townsend bing thrown around oooh that's right cause they wouldn't get a game at another club
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I'm sick of the media hating us all the time.
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I'm sick of the media hating us all the time.
The media are sheep
Every new Richmond related article has no new info in itits just recycled dribble someone else wrote. Even if it's correct it's mostly dribble
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I'm sick of the media hating us all the time.
The media are sheep
Every new Richmond related article has no new info in it@s just recycled dribble someone else wrote. Even if it's correct it's mostly dribble
RICHMOND
RE SIGNED HARDWICK
Largely DUE TO MEDIA PRESSURE
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
(According to Wp or Benny or someone authoritive on such matters )
The media hate us and made us re sign half step.
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
It would by me
Pick 1
Kpp
Nae grow trees
which why you would be crying the loudest if he didnt play every week in the AFL, in the same position he played as a junior.
you have made it abundantly clear that you believe those with talent should be given special compensation and should play seniors regardless of effort and output.
It's why Beveridge is such a good coach, he doesnt think like you and some others. He is willing to send anyone he sees fit back to the seconds until he is happy with how they go about it, and has no qualms about replacing them with someone who does as he asks, even if they have less talent.
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
It would by me
Pick 1
Kpp
Nae grow trees
which why you would be crying the loudest if he didnt play every week in the AFL, in the same position he played as a junior.
you have made it abundantly clear that you believe those with talent should be given special compensation and should play seniors regardless of effort and output.
It's why Beveridge is such a good coach, he doesnt think like you and some others. He is willing to send anyone he sees fit back to the seconds until he is happy with how they go about it, and has no qualms about replacing them with someone who does as he asks, even if they have less talent.
Rushed the million dollar baby in for te finals didn't they
I have no problem with dropping promising players, my problem is with blantent favouritism to senior proven duds - like playing Chaplin forward just before he quits. Or delisting McBean after kicking te most goals in his league
I would be more than happy to give a weritering, Cameron, McCartin , a million instead of the current pay structure.
Elite young players of that size are hard to come by. Look at our list.
A ruthless and brave move well done doggies. If he kicks a bag gf day his wage will be forgotten quick smart
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no surprise that it seems you missed the point completely
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It's mostly that your point is rather crap. I assure you id have no qualms with beveridge / Boyd where he was played. I don't think highly talented young players are extra special (apart from say rioli) I just reckon thy should get a fair go
However to get one from another team is hard , you have to do something outside the box. Well done doggies
"Beveridge is good coach he's not like you" - I did like however well done
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lol
if richmond paid a million dollars a year to a second year key forward with only 9 games of AFL football under his belt, played him in the ruck, and played him to the VFL for extended periods of time, there is no way that would be regarded as smart and brave around these parts
It would by me
Pick 1
Kpp
Nae grow trees
which why you would be crying the loudest if he didnt play every week in the AFL, in the same position he played as a junior.
you have made it abundantly clear that you believe those with talent should be given special compensation and should play seniors regardless of effort and output.
It's why Beveridge is such a good coach, he doesnt think like you and some others. He is willing to send anyone he sees fit back to the seconds until he is happy with how they go about it, and has no qualms about replacing them with someone who does as he asks, even if they have less talent.
Rushed the million dollar baby in for te finals didn't they
I have no problem with dropping promising players, my problem is with blantent favouritism to senior proven duds - like playing Chaplin forward just before he quits. Or delisting McBean after kicking te most goals in his league
I would be more than happy to give a weritering, Cameron, McCartin , a million instead of the current pay structure.
Elite young players of that size are hard to come by. Look at our list.
A ruthless and brave move well done doggies. If he kicks a bag gf day his wage will be forgotten quick smart
How many games did Chaplin play up forward of the home and away season, not many at all, and it was a blight on Vickery, Griffiths, McBean that the RFC even had to contemplate pushing Chaplin forward
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Dunno 4?
Just an example fancy pants if u got time I'll keep going
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considering the constant moaning about players like lennon and Mcbean playing in the seconds and arguing that their lack of effort should be overlooked, your assurances you would not make the same complaints if we did the same to a million dollar recruit dont hold much weight.
the fact that you keep bringing up that actually getting boyd was a good move shows that you have indeed missed the point completely.
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For the 4000th time. It's not that lennon lack of effort is acceptable. It's that grigg Houli Chaplin hampson are continually selected after putting up equal or lesser effort. If given the choice between a 28 year old dud and a 20 year old dud with promise id back beveridge to figure it out long term
Bringing in a year 2, pick 1, kpp - is a good move IMHO
Again your point is largely crap as it revolves around what I may hypothetically think some time in the future / parallel universe were Boyd an beverige were contracted to RFC - and chances are your wrong.
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This is what would have happened at punt road if we were the club in the boyd situation
Bents is in the mask
(https://a2ua.com/riot/riot-008.jpg)
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How's the three fukcwits who just pick on what people say with seemingly no opinion of their own
Fluctuaters.
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This is what would have happened at punt road if we were the club in the boyd situation
Bents is in the mask
(https://a2ua.com/riot/riot-008.jpg)
Not really.
I'd do Weitering for lids & #6
:shh
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How's the three stuffwits who just pick on what people say with seemingly no opinion of their own
Fluctuaters.
Flatuators the lot of them
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How's the three stuffwits who just pick on what people say with seemingly no opinion of their own
Fluctuaters.
:clapping
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That's bents in his casual wear going to the shops
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On Ch7 news tonight, it sounded like Balme is backing Deledio to stay. He said 'you want keep your best players'.
Hutchy and especially Barrett were trying to say on Footy Classified that Deledio wasn't definite when answering questions about his future this week. They replayed Lids' interview on RSN927 and afterwards Lloyd said "that's what you want to here from a player. Strong words about hitting any talk of leaving on the head." Barrett then chipped in, while smirking, and said to Lloyd, "So you really think Deledio was strong there?" Lloyd said "yes!". Hutchy added that Deledio should have looked down the camera [ed. Lids was on the radio by the way, Hutchy] and said "I'll be playing at Richmond next year" to quash any speculation. Caro said players at this time of the year don't always say what they want to say (eg: Dangerfield). Hutchy said if a $$$ offer for 3-4 years is put up then Deledio will jump at it. Lloyd said "Deledio loves Richmond too much". Hutchy replied, "how could he refuse the money?" to which Lloyd replied, "for some players it's not about the money". Caro added that Deledio may want to stay but he may be reflecting that the Club is unsure whether it wants to keep him.
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What would a good list management / senior coach do such as the doggies - with lods and Richmond list?
I thought they were smart and brave with the Boyd deal
However he has retained the like of and is gettin really good footy out of:
R Murphy
M Boyd
D Morris
They have also improved and or bought in J Adcock, L Picken, T Dickson, M Suckling
My feeling is a more talented people would formulate a plan to build around deledio
While they got rid of a number 1 draft pick whose dodgy leg(s) made his club (and plenty of others) question how many games he would play again. Oh mmm that sounds familiar doesn't it ;)
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Brett Deledio – Market Value
By Sarah Lucken
footyprophet.com
September 20, 2016
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Player Name: Brett Deledio
Current Club: Richmond Tigers
Potential Club: While Deledio remains contracted for 2017, his manager Anthony McConville refuses to comment on where the 29-year-old will be playing football next year. Clubs which are either in their premiership window or looking for experienced players would be interested in Deledio. The two most likely seem to be Geelong and Gold Coast, but we may see some interest from GWS once their maiden finals campaign is over.
The original price: Richmond paid a premium for Deledio, using selection number one – a priority pick – in the 2004 National Draft to snare the ex-Murray Bushranger ahead of Hawthorn’s Jarryd Roughead and the Bulldogs’ Ryan Griffen.
The Good: There’s a whole lot of good about Brett Deledio. So much so that Richmond would be loathed to lose him. From a playing perspective, he’s quick, he has an excellent kick and he hits the scoreboard. Versatility sets him apart; While he could be utilised anywhere from half-back to half-forward, his most dangerous position is the latter. Off the field, he’s a leader, the vice-captain of the club and a dual Jack Dyer medallist.
The Bad: Prior to 2014, it would have been hard to find the bad side of the consummate professional. However, injury struck early in the 2014 season and he hasn’t been the same since. Niggling Achilles and calf injuries have plagued the last three years of his career, limiting him to just 48 games in that period and hindering his output when on the field.
What his club wants: Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has stated that the Tigers top-end talent won’t be traded when the trade period opens on October 10. However, should Brett Deledio be traded, the club would look for draft picks in return. Recruiting mature age players hasn’t worked for them in the recent past, so the option to get more quality young talent into the club will be strongly considered. The fact that Dion Prestia has requested a trade to Richmond may peak some interest.
What he’s worth: A number one draft pick with the talent and credentials of Brett Deledio will still attract a lot of interest, regardless of his age. Richmond should be able to demand a first-round draft selection for him.
What we’d pay: A late first-round selection, around Pick 15-18.
Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade Brett Deledio to Geelong for Steve Motlop.
Richmond trade Brett Deledio, Pick 6 and a second-round draft pick (to be acquired in trade period) to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and Pick 8.
The Verdict: Richmond really needs to decide where they’re at as a club before they know which direction they’re going to move in when the trade period comes around. Are they going to target quality young talent through the draft while making some hard decisions on veterans along the way? Or are they going to continue to top up with mature age players? The decision with regards to Brett Deledio may well be taken out of their hands if the vice-captain requests a trade.
Star Rating: 4.5/5
If he’s even a little bit disenfranchised with Richmond, Brett Deledio could well be on the move.
http://footyprophet.com/brett-deledio-market-value/
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Will his Achilles need to be managed for the rest of his career or is he fine now and 'the best its ever been' to borrow a line from Lids himself. If he's 100% then keep, he'll play till his 35 at least and will be very valuable up fwd, but if its chronic then cut our losses and move on..
I know Ive seemingly yoyo'd on this one in this thread so I'll clarify my thinking
If he's damaged goods then move him on
If he's 100% then keep bc we wont get value out of trading him. Top 25 player in the comp in full flight, a top 20 pick is rubbish compensation
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What's the lotto numbers gunna be tm ?
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im with bents, you dont trade your stars for overated blokes like motlop, but package him up for T Mitchell and its salute lids
be bold FFS and offer up lids and edwards
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Play lids FF next year and he will kick 40+. GWS are still very keen on Edwards as a Stevie. J replacement :shh
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im with bents, you dont trade your stars for overated blokes like motlop, but package him up for T Mitchell and its salute lids
be bold FFS and offer up lids and edwards
Think you will find Edwards is most definitely on the table
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What's the lotto numbers gunna be tm ?
Surely its not that hard to diagnose whether his achilless problems are chronic or he's 100% better
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Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade Brett Deledio to Geelong for Steve Motlop.
Richmond trade Brett Deledio, Pick 6 and a second-round draft pick (to be acquired in trade period) to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and Pick 8.
So Deledio and 2nd round pick for Prestia and a downgrade of first round picks? Surely not?
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Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade Brett Deledio to Geelong for Steve Motlop.
Richmond trade Brett Deledio, Pick 6 and a second-round draft pick (to be acquired in trade period) to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and Pick 8.
So Deledio and 2nd round pick for Prestia and a downgrade of first round picks? Surely not?
Yeah I don't get it. Take away the second rounder and it feels about right.
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Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade Brett Deledio to Geelong for Steve Motlop.
Richmond trade Brett Deledio, Pick 6 and a second-round draft pick (to be acquired in trade period) to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and Pick 8.
So Deledio and 2nd round pick for Prestia and a downgrade of first round picks? Surely not?
Yeah I don't get it. Take away the second rounder and it feels about right.
Make it 4 instead of 8 would be a real sweetner
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Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade Brett Deledio to Geelong for Steve Motlop.
Richmond trade Brett Deledio, Pick 6 and a second-round draft pick (to be acquired in trade period) to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and Pick 8.
So Deledio and 2nd round pick for Prestia and a downgrade of first round picks? Surely not?
Yeah I don't get it. Take away the second rounder and it feels about right.
Make it 4 instead of 8 would be a real sweetner
Correct me if I'm wrong but would GC be looking to trade picks, especially high picks, in order to accrue more points for their academy picks?
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Assuming that it's the same as last year then yeah that's correct.
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Balmy was onSEN this morning; his normal weekly spot with Kb amd he saod as far as he os concerned Jack, Dusty and Lids wont be going anywhere :clapping
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Did he tell KB to apologize to Dusty?
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If Geelong wanted Lids before tonight then they'll be doubly keen now after being shown up for being too slow, top heavy and lacking class across the board.
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Did he tell KB to apologize to Dusty?
KB apologised to dusty indirectly by reading his name out on the interchange for the AA.
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Did he tell KB to apologize to Dusty?
KB apologised to dusty indirectly by reading his name out on the interchange for the AA.
Hmmm I think that was the selfish option by not manning up to it directly
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Lids is too good for Geelong
Should go gws / doggies / swans
:shh
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Play lids FF next year and he will kick 40+. GWS are still very keen on Edwards as a Stevie. J replacement :shh
What's that 1.8 goals per game or something 40 ?
He would kick way more if left at deep fwd at gws ...
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Did he tell KB to apologize to Dusty?
KB apologised to dusty indirectly by reading his name out on the interchange for the AA.
Hmmm I think that was the selfish option by not manning up to it directly
Agreed. Weak effort by the tea drinker.
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Brett Deledio wants to be a one-club player at Richmond
JON RALPH
Herald Sun
September 24, 2016
BRETT Deledio says he is determined to emulate the one-club status of loyal champions Bob Murphy and Nick Riewoldt.
But the Richmond midfielder admits his future is out of his control as he witnesses an AFL landscape becoming more like America’s professional sporting codes.
Deledio, 29, has been linked to a move from Richmond in recent days, with Geelong one club with clear interest in the Tigers line-breaker.
He told the Herald Sun he had been given no inclination from Richmond he was trade bait, and is intent on honouring a contract that expires at the end of next year.
He believes the calf and Achilles problems that have plagued his past three seasons have been overcome after an adjustment in his training loads.
Whether he can prove that at Richmond or another club is out of his hands, but he wants to stay.
“That is the idea. I wouldn’t have signed the contract if I didn’t want to stay here and that’s all I have been saying the whole way through,’’ he said.
“That is the beauty of what you see with players like Bob Murphy and Nick Riewoldt. They are legends of their clubs.
“But no player is ever bigger than the club and if that’s where Richmond see fit, I have been lucky enough to play 12 years at Richmond and will forever be grateful for that opportunity.
“They have been great support to me over the years and if that was to be it, then it’s up to them.”
Deledio will be a free agent at the end of 2017, which means trading him this year rather than losing him then would provide a better return.
He knows clubs are increasingly considering those options in a more fluid player movement market.
“I understand it is becoming more and more like American sports. Players are moving and chopping and changing and clubs are trying to get the best for them.
“I am not dumb. I have been in the game for long enough to know what could happen.
“We will start to see more and more of it rather than less or less.”
But he believes he can play well into his 30s despite the continuing Achilles and calf issues which have derailed the start of his past three seasons.
“I am on top of everything now, which is good. We basically just off-loaded too much on the Wednesdays so Monday and Friday I would run and we tried to look after the Achilles which made me have calf problems.
“So we are back running three days a week and it’s allowed me to stay fresh. We were trying to look after the Achilles and not doing enough.
“It’s a funny tendon and it needs work so I have spoken to our physio, who I completely trust, and we have spoken to other specialists and they are all of the same opinion.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-wants-to-be-a-oneclub-player-at-richmond/news-story/07196a4d13dafdd7582a1a8ac7d50743
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1/2 Deledio/Geelong rumours are picking up momentum. Lids is said to want to stay, but tension has arisen due to Tigers refusing to commit.
2/2 RIC need to explore all options to get Prestia + a 1st RD pick to club. My source: "we don't want to burn Brett, but we need a revamp".
Cats don't have a pick til 35, not enough for Deledio. I'm hearing Shane Kersten could sweeten the deal, replacing Vickery #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/afltradewhisper
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That's more like it
Shane Morrison welcome back son
:gotigers
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Wish GWS were after him instead.....
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Get rid of the injured miser.
Hasn't worked hard for years.
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Get rid of the injured miser.
Hasn't worked hard for years.
AA only last year.
Though I'll admit I think he could have been a lot better.
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Get rid of the injured miser.
Hasn't worked hard for years.
AA only last year.
Though I'll admit I think he could have been a lot better.
Deledio’s elite status
Tony Greenberg, richmondfc.com.au
29 June 2016 2:52 PM
Richmond star Brett Deledio’s name appears on an exclusive list of AFL players after 14 rounds of the 2016 season.
Deledio is one of just 11 players in the competition averaging more than 20 disposals and a goal a game (minimum of five games played).
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1/2 Deledio/Geelong rumours are picking up momentum. Lids is said to want to stay, but tension has arisen due to Tigers refusing to commit.
2/2 RIC need to explore all options to get Prestia + a 1st RD pick to club. My source: "we don't want to burn Brett, but we need a revamp".
Cats don't have a pick til 35, not enough for Deledio. I'm hearing Shane Kersten could sweeten the deal, replacing Vickery #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/afltradewhisper
Kertsen + pick 35 for Lids :rollin. Kersten is a spud of the highest order.
Only Blair 'bring us your duds' Hartley will think this is a good deal :help.
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1/2 Deledio/Geelong rumours are picking up momentum. Lids is said to want to stay, but tension has arisen due to Tigers refusing to commit.
2/2 RIC need to explore all options to get Prestia + a 1st RD pick to club. My source: "we don't want to burn Brett, but we need a revamp".
Cats don't have a pick til 35, not enough for Deledio. I'm hearing Shane Kersten could sweeten the deal, replacing Vickery #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/afltradewhisper
Kertsen + pick 35 for Lids :rollin. Kersten is a spud of the highest order.
Only Blair 'bring us your duds' Hartley will think this is a good deal :help.
Deledio is one of our top 5 players, two-time AA.
I'd expect one of their best 5 or two of their best 15 in return.
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Kersten is VFL standard at best. Lids will still be playing for the Tigers next year nothing to see here.
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Sam McClure on Talking Footy said Geelong don't want to trade for Deledio (Lids is out of contract next year) but Lids is seen as the player that fits the Cats' needs now.
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@kanecornes: If an offer from a club in flag window come, could you ignore?
Lids: It's a business you have to take in all things family etc
https://twitter.com/FutureStarsTV
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STFU go fight a fire
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news reported that Deledio is now more likely to leave Richmond for a fresh start
All roads point to Geelong
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all roads lead to yarrans little brother, Motlop.
:gotigers :gotigers
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Good luck to him
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news reported that Deledio is now more likely to leave Richmond for a fresh start
All roads point to Geelong
Well unless they can con another club into giving them a first rounder for Motlop, their first pick is 35 and they won't giving up Guthrie or Blicavs so I can't see what we'd get from them that would be worth it....Motlop himself certainly isn't and Kerstan would be more like salt in the would than a sweetener.....next year's first & Cockatoo perhaps?
If true, I don't like it all....
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news reported that Deledio is now more likely to leave Richmond for a fresh start
All roads point to Geelong
Well unless they can con another club into giving them a first rounder for Motlop, their first pick is 35 and they won't giving up Guthrie or Blicavs so I can't see what we'd get from them that would be worth it....Motlop himself certainly isn't and Kerstan would be more like salt in the would than a sweetener.....next year's first & Cockatoo perhaps?
If true, I don't like it all....
I'd probably even do next years 2nd and Cockatoo :shh
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Yeah they're not giving up cocktail, and our club are just clowns really
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Don't believe Stevo at all. Let's wait and see.
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I wouldn't blame him or the club. We do, however, need a first rounder as compensation for him Geelong.
Meow.
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Mark Stevens on Ch7 news reported that Deledio is now more likely to leave Richmond for a fresh start
All roads point to Geelong
Well unless they can con another club into giving them a first rounder for Motlop, their first pick is 35 and they won't giving up Guthrie or Blicavs so I can't see what we'd get from them that would be worth it....Motlop himself certainly isn't and Kerstan would be more like salt in the would than a sweetener.....next year's first & Cockatoo perhaps?
If true, I don't like it all....
Straight swap for Cockatoo would be a steel IMO.
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
I think we should trade Edwards, but keep Ellis.
Cam Gunthrie or Cockatoo would be good.
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
I think we should trade Edwards, but keep Ellis.
Cam Gunthrie or Cockatoo would be good.
You would keep B Ellis?
Now that would be a natural disaster! 😬
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
I think we should trade Edwards, but keep Ellis.
Cam Gunthrie or Cockatoo would be good.
You would keep B Ellis?
Now that would be a natural disaster! 😬
lol :p
yes I would.
Regardless of how poor he has been this year, it doesn't take away the promise he showed in previous years, especially in 2013. I still believe he will become a star..He just lacks confidence and composure.
The game plan didn't suit him either.... I do not see the club keeping the current one next year at all since I don't believe they are that stupid, I think we will play fast and direct next year which will suit someone like Bellis.
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We might be trading Lids, but to Geelong to who don't have a pick until 35? No way! Geelong traded out their 2017 first rounder for Danger, so if its a player swap then they need to give up something pretty good, since that's what they're getting! Keep Motplop cos we want quality, equal to what we are giving. Cockatoo, Caddy or Guthrie would be more like it ...
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
I think we should trade Edwards, but keep Ellis.
Cam Gunthrie or Cockatoo would be good.
You would keep B Ellis?
Now that would be a natural disaster! 😬
lol :p
yes I would.
Regardless of how poor he has been this year, it doesn't take away the promise he showed in previous years, especially in 2013. I still believe he will become a star..He just lacks confidence and composure.
The game plan didn't suit him either.... I do not see the club keeping the current one next year at all since I don't believe they are that stupid, I think we will play fast and direct next year which will suit someone like Bellis.
The current game plan actually is suited to him. He is a scab.
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or could it be that it's a 3 way trade of
Deledio to Geelong
Motlop to GC
Prestia to Richmond
with perhaps some shuffling of late picks
as a way of us keeping pick 6.
no source, just a thought
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or could it be that it's a 3 way trade of
Deledio to Geelong
Motlop to GC
Prestia to Richmond
with perhaps some shuffling of late picks
as a way of us keeping pick 6.
no source, just a thought
Geelong have little to offer us as reasonable compensation.
They won't win a premiership in the next few years.
Would break my heart if he goes to the cats and we get a C grader and pick 35 in return - which means it will surely happen.
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If we have indeed put him on the table you'd think more than just one club would be putting their hand up between now & trade week.
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Barrett last night still going on about Lids and Motlop being involved in a trade.
They also showed a clip with Lids smiling as he said him, Rance, Jack, Cotch and Dusty have all been mentioned in the media as trade targets. He then said that you don't get rid of your best players otherwise you wouldn't think it'd be a good place to be around next year.
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Trade rioli too
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Trading deledio is the right move by the club. His body is letting him down and doesn't have much good football left
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If trading Deledio means we keep either Ellis B, Edwards or both then its a bad deal no ,matter who or what we get
And if Deledio does go i can think of few blokes I'd take over Motlop.
the fact a Club like Geelong have had enough of him tells us everything we need to know....
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The only one that may be gettable that I would want is Cockatoo.
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If Cockatoo ever leaves it'd probably be to Port....massive fan:
http://www.ntnews.com.au/sport/local-afl/nakia-hopes-for-port-on-draft-day/news-story/27cf2ac6be5d860d5fd2713e854a3ce8
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
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Not our problem.
Rot unsuccessfully in the 8 for the next 2-3 years or pay up.
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Not our problem.
Rot unsuccessfully in the 8 for the next 2-3 years or pay up.
^^ This :clapping
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
What would Lids be on?
I'm tipping $600k plus
It's a lot of money for a 29 year old half forward flanker.
It's time IMO.
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
What would Lids be on?
I'm tipping $600k plus
It's a lot of money for a 29 year old half forward flanker.
It's time IMO.
Wipe him
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
What would Lids be on?
I'm tipping $600k plus
It's a lot of money for a 29 year old half forward flanker.
It's time IMO.
Wipe him
Unless we cough up some of the salary, they'll wait a year.
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A source close to Lids tells me Lids hasn't heard from the club in over a week. Tension rising daily #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/780991187603841029
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If Lids is on the trade table and he is unaware of it then it is a disgrace. I would've at least thought his manager would aware.
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
What would Lids be on?
I'm tipping $600k plus
It's a lot of money for a 29 year old half forward flanker.
It's time IMO.
Could be more I reckon, though he took unders & stayed loyal to our club we he signed this contract
Would think if he we trade him then the club he goes to would want us to pay part of his contract
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A source close to Lids tells me Lids hasn't heard from the club in over a week. Tension rising daily #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/780991187603841029
Isn't he on holidays? Surely clubs and players don't need to check in with each other every 5 minutes.
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A source close to Lids tells me Lids hasn't heard from the club in over a week. Tension rising daily #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/780991187603841029
Not true. :shh
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I know the Brownlow doesn't mean stuff all but I just realised Lids didn't even get a vote. I know he missed games through injury but as I stated previously he would be on $600k plus as a HFF. If you are paying players this much money you would expect at least a couple of best on ground's, even if it's against the average teams. His class should get us at the very least that.
All things point to trading him IMO.
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I know the Brownlow doesn't mean stuff all but I just realised Lids didn't even get a vote. I know he missed games through injury but as I stated previously he would be on $600k plus as a HFF. If you are paying players this much money you would expect at least a couple of best on ground's, even if it's against the average teams. His class should get us at the very least that.
All things point to trading him IMO.
Bellis > lids
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Get rid of him
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Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't he got a year to go on contract ?
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Lids for Jack Darling .
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he does have a year to run but as we all no contracts these days mean little... a fit lids is non replaceable but we are just not getting enough of him last 2 years. strange as u look at our lists his in our top 5 yet we have morris, elton, townsend thus likes we keep clearly no value in them....
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strange as u look at our lists his in our top 5 yet we have morris, elton, townsend thus likes we keep clearly no value in them....
Bachelor. Astbury. Houli. Grigg. Hampson. What is the logic re signing potatoes on mass while renovinf better players ?
But trading lids will fix everything ?
I am unsure of the clubs strategy...
Are we still in cream / big fish mode - trying to win a flag before rance and jack flop and or join a cult
Or are we rebuilding ? Somewhere half assed in between chances are. Depends how grigg fondles Betamax next time they hve a swim-discussion
It's the fan fault after all
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Apparently Lids is too expensive for the Cats.
If this is true Geelong are quite dumb
Would be an excellent addition to them
Light years ahead of their bottom six
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Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't he got a year to go on contract ?
Yes so can only be traded if he agrees to it
And i posted earlier would expect any club to want the Tigers to cover part of the final year of said contract
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A source close to Lids tells me Lids hasn't heard from the club in over a week. Tension rising daily #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/780991187603841029
Not true. :shh
And how do you know?
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@barrettdamian speculating a straight swap between Deledio and Motlop. Feels like the Cats would be the winners there.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper
I like him [Motlop] but he isn't the type Richmond should be chasing (although they are). They need to go to draft, not recycled players.
Or [chasing] players that are 'icing on the cake' types when there isn't a cake.
Thats if you can keep pick 6...which is no guarantee. Motlop isn't the answer for Richmond...to any question.
I dont think he [Motlop] had a bad year, just a bad finish. Not the reason he is up for trade.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/781383221397164032
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@barrettdamian speculating a straight swap between Deledio and Motlop. Feels like the Cats would be the winners there.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper
I like him [Motlop] but he isn't the type Richmond should be chasing (although they are). They need to go to draft, not recycled players.
Or [chasing] players that are 'icing on the cake' types when there isn't a cake.
Thats if you can keep pick 6...which is no guarantee. Motlop isn't the answer for Richmond...to any question.
I dont think he [Motlop] had a bad year, just a bad finish. Not the reason he is up for trade.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/781383221397164032
Agree with us not going for Motlop.
Disagree with Geelong being the winners in a straight swap.
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Geelong would be getting an absolute steal :gobdrop
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From Barrett's sliding doors column:
IF ..... you're Deledio and even moreso if you're Richmond FC ..
THEN ...... it's pretty easy if you want status quo in 2017. But neither player nor club will do anything which absolutely, 100 per cent guarantees they will be together beyond this season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-30/sliding-doors-afl-grand-final
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Trade Radio podcast: Motlop-Deledio straight swap?
Damian Barrett, Mitch Cleary & Cam Luke with all the latest.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-29/trade-radio-podcast-motlopdeledio-straight-swap
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Also Ch 7's Tom Browne said that the clubs (plural) expected to go after Deledio.
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Good luck to te guy - I wish him well
Could be a real assist for a strong club. Could see him doing wonders for a Geelong / dogs hawks / gws
Let him play full time forward he will kill it
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A source close to Lids tells me Lids hasn't heard from the club in over a week. Tension rising daily #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/780991187603841029
Not true. :shh
And how do you know?
I was told that Lids is happy to be shopped around by the club and he is also happy to stay. That came from a friend of his....
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Also Ch 7's Tom Browne said that the clubs (plural) expected to go after Deledio.
Actually it's quite amusing how Ch7 colleagues Stevens and Brown arw so far apart at times regarong who's going where and who's talking to who :lol
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@camluke: For Geelong in 2017 - who is a better fit to push for a flag? Hanley or Deledio?
@MatthewLloyd18: Hanley
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Its possible but Richmond will only trade him [Deledio] if they get a great deal. He's contracted so they hold the power.
Pick 10-18. Thats his worth. As I said, Tigers hold all the power. I reckon he stays FWIW.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/782534089941266432
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He will be like a new recruit
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Geez 18 would be stiff I think. His body failing this year has dropped his value substantially
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Its possible but Richmond will only trade him [Deledio] if they get a great deal. He's contracted so they hold the power.
Pick 10-18. Thats his worth. As I said, Tigers hold all the power. I reckon he stays FWIW.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/782534089941266432
Lids is staying :thumbsup
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lids stays fit and is right he is on the same page as value you as dusty and cotch... he just needs to get the calf right as they say a calf is an old mans injury
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RUMOUR TIME!
ADE have discussed Brett Deledio as a potential solution to their midfield depth issues. Line breaker, goal kicker. Thoughts Crows fans? @AFLTRADEWHISPERER
What do we want in return?
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Could we work out a three way that sees Lids go to the Cats and we get Hartlett from Port?
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if anyone at the club is serious about progressing, lids has gotta go
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2 years max left on that body, during which time we wont be competint for a flag.
Take the best offer and run
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7: "The talk about Deledio heading to Geelong is still red hot."
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They keep saying Geelong yet Geelong don't have anything to trade.
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They keep saying Geelong yet Geelong don't have anything to trade.
(http://cdn.lookanimals.com/pictures/www.thepetscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/cockatoos.jpg)
Maybe they do!
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They keep saying Geelong yet Geelong don't have anything to trade.
Players?
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
What? He re-signed a long while ago. That is just absolute rubbish!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/deledio-signs-five-year-deal-with-tigers/3915284
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They keep saying Geelong yet Geelong don't have anything to trade.
(http://cdn.lookanimals.com/pictures/www.thepetscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/cockatoos.jpg)
Maybe they do!
I'd be keen but what's the point? Lids is a top up and will have to be managed for his remaining 2-3 years, why would they trade a promising future for that?
If they did then I'd take it in a heartbeat but I expect them to only want Lids if they can bend us over with flakey and/or broken down offcuts like Vardy and Motlop.
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They keep saying Geelong yet Geelong don't have anything to trade.
(http://cdn.lookanimals.com/pictures/www.thepetscentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/cockatoos.jpg)
Maybe they do!
I'd be keen but what's the point? Lids is a top up and will have to be managed for his remaining 2-3 years, why would they trade a promising future for that?
If they did then I'd take it in a heartbeat but I expect them to only want Lids if they can bend us over with flakey and/or broken down offcuts like Vardy and Motlop.
Lol
Well tell them to fo
Meek Richmond going to te pharmacy to buy Vaseline as per usual
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
Aren't we still in the dark days
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
Steady on.
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
Steady on.
He stayed for Grigg too?
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
Steady on.
He stayed for Grigg too?
He stayed for lovin and a hand shandy. You guys have always been more than obliging.
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Lids wants to stay @ Richmond but hurt by Tigers' hesitation to re-sign him. Has a point. Was loyal through dark days.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Business is business.
Ffs. :'(
You think we should re-sign a 29 year old one year out from his contract expiring?
Roxy sox made it clear she reckons Lids should go and she's right. Doubt Lids stayed at Richmond for any other reason than himself anyway
Steady on.
He stayed for Grigg too?
He stayed for lovin and a hand shandy. You guys have always been more than obliging.
It was fun whilst it lasted.
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Hand over the cockatoo. :cheers
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The future of Brett Deledio remains unclear, with the two-time best and fairest winner interested in moving to Geelong, but the Cats not yet in a position to either fit him under the salary cap or provide the Tigers with adequate compensation.
Steven Motlop is seen as the player most likely to be moved to enable Geelong to open up room and secure Deledio or even Carlton’s Zach Tuohy, whom the Cats are also interested in. Tuohy has a three-year offer on the table from the Blues.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-looking-to-secure-swans-ruckman-toby-nankervis/news-story/052f07bb17d18fca6cdce88062769085
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lmao at rfc being the minnow pawn, bled by successful clubs
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The future of Brett Deledio remains unclear, with the two-time best and fairest winner interested in moving to Geelong, but the Cats not yet in a position to either fit him under the salary cap or provide the Tigers with adequate compensation.
Steven Motlop is seen as the player most likely to be moved to enable Geelong to open up room and secure Deledio or even Carlton’s Zach Tuohy, whom the Cats are also interested in. Tuohy has a three-year offer on the table from the Blues.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-looking-to-secure-swans-ruckman-toby-nankervis/news-story/052f07bb17d18fca6cdce88062769085
These journo's make crap up.
" the 2 time b and f winner interested in moving to Geelong"
Not what I have heard at all.
He doesn't wanna go anywhere.
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The future of Brett Deledio remains unclear, with the two-time best and fairest winner interested in moving to Geelong, but the Cats not yet in a position to either fit him under the salary cap or provide the Tigers with adequate compensation.
Steven Motlop is seen as the player most likely to be moved to enable Geelong to open up room and secure Deledio or even Carlton’s Zach Tuohy, whom the Cats are also interested in. Tuohy has a three-year offer on the table from the Blues.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-looking-to-secure-swans-ruckman-toby-nankervis/news-story/052f07bb17d18fca6cdce88062769085
These journo's make crap up.
" the 2 time b and f winner interested in moving to Geelong"
Not what I have heard at all.
He doesn't wanna go anywhere.
Spot on as this is the info i had confirmed yesterday. Lids should be playing his career out with the Tigers.
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Cockatoo & Kolodjashnij or pick 35 thanks.
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Cockatoo & Kolodjashnij or pick 35 thanks.
That would be a start. Was told Lids for Motlop was and is never going to happen!
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There was some 'talk' suggesting bombers are interested in Deledio this afternoon, at this early stage wide of mark.
https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/with_replies
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"Geelong have some pretty complex salary cap issues that probably preclude them from getting Deledio" - Tom Browne on 7 news tonight.
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"Geelong have some pretty complex salary cap issues that probably preclude them from getting Deledio" - Tom Browne on 7 news tonight.
Oh this is the same Tom Browne that stated on Tuesday night he was heading down the highway.
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"Geelong have some pretty complex salary cap issues that probably preclude them from getting Deledio" - Tom Browne on 7 news tonight.
Complex? What do they think it is? The latest propulsion formula for the Elon Musk's Martian spaceship?
They either have space or they don't I would have thought. Maybe the would need to front end and backend the contract, leaving the middle bit down or do something like that, but it would hardly be difficult.
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Good old Patty filling his pockets down Corio way.
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Sounds like Essendrugs pretty complex performance enhancement program, any of collingwoods trades, or the punt road building..that's a pretty complex too
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The future of Brett Deledio remains unclear, with the two-time best and fairest winner interested in moving to Geelong, but the Cats not yet in a position to either fit him under the salary cap or provide the Tigers with adequate compensation.
Steven Motlop is seen as the player most likely to be moved to enable Geelong to open up room and secure Deledio or even Carlton’s Zach Tuohy, whom the Cats are also interested in. Tuohy has a three-year offer on the table from the Blues.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-looking-to-secure-swans-ruckman-toby-nankervis/news-story/052f07bb17d18fca6cdce88062769085
These journo's make crap up.
" the 2 time b and f winner interested in moving to Geelong"
Not what I have heard at all.
He doesn't wanna go anywhere.
Callers saying Lids was seen at real estate agents in Torquay and Ocean Grove sourcing places to buy.
His brother, Matt, plays footy for Torquay and looks a lot like Lids.
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Jon Ralph also feels it might be time for Richmond to let go of Brett Deledio, so they can sign Dion Prestia from the Gold Coast Suns, while not giving up their prized pick six in this year’s draft.
“I suppose my point is Brett Deledio is 29, he is 30 in April…I love him as a player, I’ve loved his durability,” he said.
“I would think Richmond aren’t going to win a Premiership in the next three years and anyone who thinks they will, it’s a pipedream.
“Maybe the tough decision is to say Brett, we will help trade you to the Gold Coast or to a third party, that allows them to get in a youngster in Prestia and also keep that pick six.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/10/05/jon-ralph-discusses-chris-yarran-and-brett-deledio/
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let me get this straight, now the media interview each other as though they speak for the clubs and their players? LOL stuff me pooting
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let me get this straight, now the media interview each other as though they speak for the clubs and their players? LOL stuff me pooting
yeh its funny isnt and some fools get all worked up and hot and sweaty over it
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time to bite the bullet boys swap him to geelong for a cockatoo and motlop blivicas how ever its spelt .... nneed some young runners motlop well can run
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Ox likes a cockatoo
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Ox likes a cockatoo
black or white
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/RTBC_female_Whicher_Range_email.jpg/220px-RTBC_female_Whicher_Range_email.jpg)
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/white-cockatoo-23991992.jpg)
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Ox likes a cockatoo
Not as much as u do biting the bullet.
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hehe hurro Oxus
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I have no problem keeping or trading Lids, but what's the chance he buggers off for nothing next year? I wouldn't hold a grudge against him for wanting to have a crack at a flag in his final year or two.
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hehe hurro Oxus
Ox likes a cockatoo
Owl likes the seed stick?
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After seeing how important he is to our side to trade him you may as well trade Rance and Jack as it would be a sign we were tanking. Trade our top 5 get 7 first round picks and rebuild. Hmm.
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After seeing how important he is to our side to trade him you may as well trade Rance and Jack as it would be a sign we were tanking. Trade our top 5 get 7 first round picks and rebuild. Hmm.
If a jobs worth doing
It's worth doing right
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Could probably get two first round picks for Rance, Jack, Dusty and Cotchin. One for Lids. One as usual this year and next. So six first round picks this year and five next year haha.
Would be like GWS almost.
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Just so crazy it might work
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Brett deledio looks set to stay put at punt road with both clubs unable to come to a fair deal.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru/with_replies
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Brett deledio looks set to stay put at punt road with both clubs unable to come to a fair deal.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru/with_replies
So in other words, Geelong being difficult and expecting something for nothing? Not suprised.
Pretty slimey that club
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Brett deledio looks set to stay put at punt road with both clubs unable to come to a fair deal.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru/with_replies
So in other words, Geelong being difficult and expecting something for nothing? Not suprised.
Pretty slimey that club
Yet GC want pick 6 for Prestia so we must oblige :clapping. It's all that good character shining through
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Dan Richardson confirmed Geelong interest in Lids and said Lids was interested to go to cats. So time to make a deal.
Let me just say this, he is contracted and only next year is he a restricted free agent.
So we hold ALL the cards here, please RFC do not be stuffwit! !!
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He'll be unrestricted next year so if there is any sign of him wanting to leave then the time to deal is now.
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News reports say the lad is gone -
Goodbye lids the club was a shambles when he walked in and 17 ... An is a shambles now.
I think he's a bit under rated by the tigers faithful.
I wish deledio all te best hope he wins a flag or three at the mighty cats. Will watch geelog with interst now
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He'll be unrestricted next year so if there is any sign of him wanting to leave then the time to deal is now.
So then keep him for a year and tell him to fo !
Like dortmund did :shh
Principle baby
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We will stuff this one up..
The Richmond way :banghead
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If we get fair compensation for Lids then it will be a good result for all concerned, including Lids himself. I hope he goes well at the Cats. He deserves some success.
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If we get fair compensation for Lids then it will be a good result for all concerned, including Lids himself. I hope he goes well at the Cats. He deserves some success.
Deledio
Danger
Selwood
Hawkins
Will go alright
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I'd love Cockatoo but there is too much smoke around Motlop. Would Motlop + 35 (whatever their second is) be an unreasonable ask? I assume their first next year is off the table too as they already traded this year's for Danger and I think there are some rules pertaining to trading future firsts.
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He'll be unrestricted next year so if there is any sign of him wanting to leave then the time to deal is now.
So then keep him for a year and tell him to fo !
Like dortmund did :shh
Principle baby
All good but unfortunately we don't have the option to just buy replacements :'(
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:(
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Dan the Man just said on Trade Radio that we don't want Motlop...
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motlop wont be coming over by all reports keen to see what geelong come back with know tigers play hard ball here if they want a player geelong well u need to offer what we need
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Well thank stuff for that.
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Lids for Motlop will not happen. Was told this weeks ago so the Cats have some work to do to land their man......lets see what we get if it happens.
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Should have heard Robbo and Buckets Maher talking crap regarding Deledio. Firstly, Geelong get ripped off in a Motlop for Lids trade ( :lol). Then Buckets goes "sorry tiger fans hes a UFA" so you wont be getting Motlop. Then they agree we'd get pick 15 as compo which would be incredible value so we should let him go if he wants. In the dying seconds of the segment they suddenly realise he's contracted and realise they've been talking shyte for the last 20 mins.
Amatuer hour. :rollin
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Should have heard Robbo and Buckets Maher talking crap regarding Deledio. Firstly, Geelong get ripped off in a Motlop for Lids trade ( :lol). Then Buckets goes "sorry tiger fans hes a UFA" so you wont be getting Motlop. Then they agree we'd get pick 15 as compo which would be incredible value so we should let him go if he wants. In the dying seconds of the segment they suddenly realise he's contracted and realise they've been talking shyte for the last 20 mins.
Amatuer hour. :rollin
stuff me
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We were poo when lids was first drafted. 12 years later nothing has changed. We waste talent like no one else.
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Deledio interested in joining Cats
Kate Saleme
Herald Sun
10 October 2016
BRETT Deledio is open to a possible trade to Geelong, but Steven Motlop won’t be part of any deal.
Richmond confirmed today that Geelong has asked the Tigers about a trade for Deledio and Deledio had expressed interest in joining the Cats.
But the Tigers say Deledio is a contracted player and constructing a deal could be difficult considering Geelong’s first pick in the draft is No.35.
And Richmond football talent manager Dan Richardson said Steve Motlop wasn’t on the Tigers’ radar.
“Geelong have expressed their interest (in Deledio), we had some discussions today that didn’t progress too far,” Richardson said at Etihad Stadium.
“Brett expressed his interest in Geelong as well but at this stage we wouldn’t let Brett go for nothing, that’s for sure.
“At this stage it’s just Geelong expressing their interest, which is reasonably strong, but we’ll go from there.”
Asked if Deledio was open to a trade, Richardson said: “I think Brett would consider his options, yes, but he certainly unerstands that he’s a contracted and required player and more than likely still plays for us next year.”
Earlier, Geelong list boss Stephen Wells has confirmed the Cats’ interest in Deledio.
The star utility has gone on record as saying he expects to stay at the Tigers and Wells knows it will be difficult to get the 29-year-old out of Punt Rd.
“We have an interest in Brett,” Wells said. “It’s a bit like Steven Motlop in (that) Brett’s a contracted player at Richmond and we fully expect Richmond to want him to play for them.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/geelong-list-boss-stephen-wells-confirms-interest-in-brett-deledio/news-story/3e0b8a3578f905fa76a286b5f2eb68eb
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Should have heard Robbo and Buckets Maher talking crap regarding Deledio. Firstly, Geelong get ripped off in a Motlop for Lids trade ( :lol). Then Buckets goes "sorry tiger fans hes a UFA" so you wont be getting Motlop. Then they agree we'd get pick 15 as compo which would be incredible value so we should let him go if he wants. In the dying seconds of the segment they suddenly realise he's contracted and realise they've been talking shyte for the last 20 mins.
Amatuer hour. :rollin
stuff me
Yeah I sent them a few texts during the pathetic exchange as I'm sure others did too
It was truly pathetic
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Should have heard Robbo and Buckets Maher talking crap regarding Deledio. Firstly, Geelong get ripped off in a Motlop for Lids trade ( :lol). Then Buckets goes "sorry tiger fans hes a UFA" so you wont be getting Motlop. Then they agree we'd get pick 15 as compo which would be incredible value so we should let him go if he wants. In the dying seconds of the segment they suddenly realise he's contracted and realise they've been talking shyte for the last 20 mins.
Amatuer hour. :rollin
stuff me
Yeah I sent them a few texts during the pathetic exchange as I'm sure others did too
It was truly pathetic
:clapping
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I'll be truely sad when the news comes through that Lids has left and gone to Geelong.
Bit IMO it's taken longer than I would have thought for one of our stars to say "that's enough".
He has been loyal but now he has to think about himself. I'll be watching him with great hope.
On the flip side I hope the club realises that unless they get their acts together this is going to happen more often. Lids can obviously see through all our clubs crap and see we are NOWHERE!
They had better show some balls and get a decent return but I'm not holding my breath. Unfortunately our club is in a bad way. As bad as I can remember.
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If Deledio went "this club is poo I am walking" i can live with that decision. but the fact of the matter is he has very openly said he didn't want to be traded and that he is contracted yet he has constantly been hounded and thrown up as trade bait because the club is inept of developing anyone else or landing good players in the trade without selling the farm.
Seriously the fact that club has just thrown Deledio up for trade with zero regard to the service he has put in and the fact he could've walked at 2009 or 2012, this treatment of Lids doesn't sit well with me. If Deledio goes I am done with following this club.
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Should have heard Robbo and Buckets Maher talking crap regarding Deledio. Firstly, Geelong get ripped off in a Motlop for Lids trade ( :lol). Then Buckets goes "sorry tiger fans hes a UFA" so you wont be getting Motlop. Then they agree we'd get pick 15 as compo which would be incredible value so we should let him go if he wants. In the dying seconds of the segment they suddenly realise he's contracted and realise they've been talking shyte for the last 20 mins.
Amatuer hour. :rollin
stuff me
Yeah I sent them a few texts during the pathetic exchange as I'm sure others did too
It was truly pathetic
Andy Maher.
What a Shitman.
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They just doing a bit of fishing to see what it will take to get Motlop.
Give them Edwards, Elton, & Mcbean's phone number that should get it done :snidegrin
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So much for dimmer having any say in anything.
:wallywink
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I hope he is not traded. He has been a loyal servant of the club and has started that he wants to stay. The club would do more damage than good if it attempted to trade him.
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So much for dimmer having any say in anything.
:wallywink
What's dimmer got to do with any of this? What's your point?
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I'm beyond caring at the moment.....in fact I'm leaning towards rolling the dice like the Bulldogs did with Griffin.
Seriously whats the worst that can happen ????
My eyes bled all year from the crap we dished up every week.
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Zac Smith and one of Motlop/pick 35.
Gut them like a fish.
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Well CH7 has just goven 800k reasons why he may npt be going anywhere
They are reporting Lids contract for 2017 is $800k
And geelong has no cap space :rollin
FWIW I'm only disappointed that for the last 6 weeks Lids has said he wants to be a 1 club player, didnt want to go anywhere and now he's open to moving
Flip, flop
Whatever
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WP, i sense that he is pretty much forced into being "happy to be traded" and that he doesn't really want to play for another club. he has been hit up from all angles about playing for another club and it wouldn't surprise me if he has finally caved into the pressure and "is open" to moving so the RFC gets some picks (which the club will squander)
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
What?
He's been at the club for 12 years. If he's been that type of bloke, he'd have left long ago.
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Running joke that he had no time for fans nor did he ever volunteer,to do anything that didn't have an earn in it for himself.
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Running joke that he had no time for fans nor did he ever volunteer,to do anything that didn't have an earn in it for himself.
So far from the truth its not funny
But he wants to go he goes
But he goes on terms not his.
Late 1st round pick or he stays, he's contracted
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
What?
He's been at the club for 12 years. If he's been that type of bloke, he'd have left long ago.
Na he should keep playing alongside grigg Hampson Houli how selfish
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
What?
He's been at the club for 12 years. If he's been that type of bloke, he'd have left long ago.
Na he should keep playing alongside grigg Hampson Houli how selfish
Well that's a hard gig to pass up! Maybe we can convince Dangerfield that Moggs Creek and surfing have nothing compared to playing on the same team as those champs!
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Really over forums and know it Alls
stuff it sick of it
One thing is though I would not begrudge lids if true
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
Wrong on so many levels.
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
Wrong on so many levels.
Not the first time either
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Lids didn't sign his jumper ten years ago :whistle
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Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
Wrong on so many levels.
Not the first time either
LOL, as if you would have a clue
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Pick 12-18 or Geelong can EAD.
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Pick 12-18 or Geelong can EAD.
:clapping
Yessssss big man. The old Dubstep Dookie has spoken!
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If Deledio went "this club is poo I am walking" i can live with that decision. but the fact of the matter is he has very openly said he didn't want to be traded and that he is contracted yet he has constantly been hounded and thrown up as trade bait because the club is inept of developing anyone else or landing good players in the trade without selling the farm.
Seriously the fact that club has just thrown Deledio up for trade with zero regard to the service he has put in and the fact he could've walked at 2009 or 2012, this treatment of Lids doesn't sit well with me. If Deledio goes I am done with following this club.
But ... At least we tied down our other leaders to long term deals
Morris. Hunt. Hampson. Houli. Grigg Maric.
#stability.
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Pick 12-18 or Geelong can EAD.
:clapping
Yessssss big man. The old Dubstep Dookie has spoken!
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Well CH7 has just goven 800k reasons why he may npt be going anywhere
They are reporting Lids contract for 2017 is $800k
And geelong has no cap space :rollin
FWIW I'm only disappointed that for the last 6 weeks Lids has said he wants to be a 1 club player, didnt want to go anywhere and now he's open to moving
Flip, flop
Whatever
800k you must be joking lol
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LMAOOOOO
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Well CH7 has just goven 800k reasons why he may npt be going anywhere
They are reporting Lids contract for 2017 is $800k
And geelong has no cap space :rollin
FWIW I'm only disappointed that for the last 6 weeks Lids has said he wants to be a 1 club player, didnt want to go anywhere and now he's open to moving
Flip, flop
Whatever
800k you must be joking lol
That's what they said on Ch7 news this evening
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Well CH7 has just goven 800k reasons why he may npt be going anywhere
They are reporting Lids contract for 2017 is $800k
And geelong has no cap space :rollin
FWIW I'm only disappointed that for the last 6 weeks Lids has said he wants to be a 1 club player, didnt want to go anywhere and now he's open to moving
Flip, flop
Whatever
800k you must be joking lol
That's what they said on Ch7 news this evening
It was 3 mill over 5 years when he signed in 2012. Would make sense if they back-ended it (like most contracts are these days).
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I actually think they front ended the contract so Lids is on something like 5-600K now. That is why they were keen to off load Motlop because it would free almost the exact amount up for Lids.
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If they front loaded Lid's contract he'd be on less than 5-600k now, especially when you look back when he signed we were in the doldrums and probably paying our A graders front loaded contracts to give us space 2-4 years down the track when we'd theoretically be challenging. At least thats what any smart club would do, who knows with us..
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If they front loaded Lid's contract he'd be on less than 5-600k now, especially when you look back when he signed we were in the doldrums and probably paying our A graders front loaded contracts to give us space 2-4 years down the track when we'd theoretically be challenging. At least thats what any smart club would do, who knows with us..
If they paid him 900K the first year 800K the second and 700K the third he'd been on 600K now and 500K next year. That makes 3.5 million which is what I believe his total contract was worth. Maybe I'm wrong but then we are all guessing.
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If they front loaded Lid's contract he'd be on less than 5-600k now, especially when you look back when he signed we were in the doldrums and probably paying our A graders front loaded contracts to give us space 2-4 years down the track when we'd theoretically be challenging. At least thats what any smart club would do, who knows with us..
If they paid him 900K the first year 800K the second and 700K the third he'd been on 600K now and 500K next year. That makes 3.5 million which is what I believe his total contract was worth. Maybe I'm wrong but then we are all guessing.
Pretty confident it was 3 mill over 5 YBB.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/deledio-signs-five-year-deal-with-tigers/3915284
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledios-done-deal-with-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1226310760203
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That was my understanding Dougey, 3mill over 5 years
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If they front loaded Lid's contract he'd be on less than 5-600k now, especially when you look back when he signed we were in the doldrums and probably paying our A graders front loaded contracts to give us space 2-4 years down the track when we'd theoretically be challenging. At least thats what any smart club would do, who knows with us..
If they paid him 900K the first year 800K the second and 700K the third he'd been on 600K now and 500K next year. That makes 3.5 million which is what I believe his total contract was worth. Maybe I'm wrong but then we are all guessing.
Pretty confident it was 3 mill over 5 YBB.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/deledio-signs-five-year-deal-with-tigers/3915284
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledios-done-deal-with-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1226310760203
Oh well if it was 3 you could take 100K off each. ;D
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They are reporting Lids contract for 2017 is $800k
Joooosus
Running joke that he had no time for fans nor did he ever volunteer,to do anything that didn't have an earn in it for himself.
I'm not one to approach players during their personal time but I did bump into him once waiting in line so I knew he had nothing better to do and he seemed happy enough to have a short yarn. Definitely no Tuck who from my experience actively seeks people to talk to but pleasant enough. I guess people just expect them to drop everything and talk to you. Do you stop and talk to all the sales people in the middle of shopping centres?
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Steven Wells on SEN:
Lids approached Geelong late in the season
It will be a difficult trade to get done due to salary cap
Richmond have informed Geelong of the players they would like but Geelong don't want to part with them
That's all I got.
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From SEN Breakfast twitter account
Wells says Geelong received an approach from the management of Deledio and Tuohy late in the season about playing at the Cats
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Steven Wells on SEN:
Lids approached Geelong late in the season
It will be a difficult trade to get done due to salary cap
Richmond have informed Geelong of the players they would like but Geelong don't want to part with them
That's all I got.
Heard the interview too
Wells was asked if they approached Deledio or did Deledio approach them
Wells said they were contacted by Deledio via his management late in season (seems someones been telling porkies)
Said Tigers given then a list of what they want and they want alot, said will be difficult from their end to get it done,. Have told Deledio and his manager unlikely to get done. Salry cap space their biggest issue. They haven't got room
He also said for it to get done will likely need 3rd parties involved.
Was asked about Motlop, said RFC made it clear they dont want him. Was asked if theyd been much interest in Motlop from other clubs as that could be a way of getting deal done (with 3rd party) . Wells saod no and they had been surprised by that
Cats have meetings planned with a numberof 3rd parties planned for today to try and get both deals over the line
Thats all i remember for now
Keep playing hard ball Tiges :thumbsup ;D
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Selfish arrogant so and so, never been any different, its all about him and stuff anybody else.
Two weeks ago he says i want to be a one club player blah blah blah while all the time his management was approaching Geelong. Dirty on not being offered a contract extension beyond next year so takes his bat and ball and says speak to Geelong.
Good riddance i say as long as we get Cockatoo or a mid first round, not pick 16
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From SEN Breakfast twitter account
Wells says Geelong received an approach from the management of Deledio and Tuohy late in the season about playing at the Cats
Wonder if I'll be getting an apology today?
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Selfish arrogant so and so, never been any different, its all about him and stuff anybody else.
Two weeks ago he says i want to be a one club player blah blah blah while all the time his management was approaching Geelong. Dirty on not being offered a contract extension beyond next year so takes his bat and ball and says speak to Geelong.
Good riddance i say as long as we get Cockatoo or a mid first round, not pick 16
Not mAny top Afl players are humble
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Not sure about the cocka
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Cant blame him can you?
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He also said for it to get done will likely need 3rd parties involved.
How will a 3rd party make this easier. Geelong are trying to bring in an A grader for nothing.
Unless they can find a club willing to give us an A grader/young B grader for pick 37 they're going to have to cough up someone decent.
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From SEN Breakfast twitter account
Wells says Geelong received an approach from the management of Deledio and Tuohy late in the season about playing at the Cats
Wonder if I'll be getting an apology today?
I'm sorry for you
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From SEN Breakfast twitter account
Wells says Geelong received an approach from the management of Deledio and Tuohy late in the season about playing at the Cats
Wonder if I'll be getting an apology today?
If that's directed at me then I ask for what?
Only thing I replied to you about was this
Running joke that he had no time for fans nor did he ever volunteer,to do anything that didn't have an earn in it for himself.
So far from the truth its not funny
But he wants to go he goes
But he goes on terms not his.
Late 1st round pick or he stays, he's contracted
And on that statement you were so far from the truth - I stick by that
And if you are talking about this
Lids made up his mind months ago to leave. Don't get sucked in he has dropped us like yesterday's breakfast. Always came across as that type of bloke.
Then no I don't owe you an apology because I didn't respond to that in anyway
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He also said for it to get done will likely need 3rd parties involved.
How will a 3rd party make this easier. Geelong are trying to bring in an A grader for nothing.
Unless they can find a club willing to give us an A grader/young B grader for pick 37 they're going to have to cough up someone decent.
No no,
Was explained yesterday
GWS & GC want points for academy selections
So they are willing to trade early picks for players that Geelong have (eg Vardy & Motlop) that will give them the points they covet and get Geelong the early picks they need that they can on trade for Deledio
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Wasn't directed at you WP. Rather some others who are clueless but like to rubbish those who know different
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He also said for it to get done will likely need 3rd parties involved.
How will a 3rd party make this easier. Geelong are trying to bring in an A grader for nothing.
Unless they can find a club willing to give us an A grader/young B grader for pick 37 they're going to have to cough up someone decent.
No no,
Was explained yesterday
GWS & GC want points for academy selections
So they are willing to trade early picks for players that Geelong have (eg Vardy & Motlop) that will give them the points they covet and get Geelong the early picks they need that they can on trade for Deledio
Fair enough.
The question is then, what is a Vardy/Motlop worth to a GC/GWS?
Would GC really be happy to trade what is essentially pick 8 plus Prestia for Vardy and/or Motlop?
Or Prestia & picks 22 and 23. Seems like theyre getting ripped off there.
Do Brisbane and Sydney need to trade picks for academy selections?
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He also said for it to get done will likely need 3rd parties involved.
How will a 3rd party make this easier. Geelong are trying to bring in an A grader for nothing.
Unless they can find a club willing to give us an A grader/young B grader for pick 37 they're going to have to cough up someone decent.
Peeing off Motlop is their goal. Move him somewhere that wants him (which is now known no one does) because we don't and get themselves more cap space and maybe something to give us
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Geelong ... if you want Deledio this will get the job done! Suck it up and you can't expect to get something and give nothing in return.
The only deal that could give Deledio away would be ...
Geelong's 2nd Round Pick, Vardy and 2017 1st Round Pick for Deledio.
Suck it up Geelong and do that deal you bunch of .....!
Not our fault you are putting your eggs into a 2-3 year basket for a flag!
Deledio is trade-able and if it isn't going to be 2 early top 10 or 20 picks then nothing else will do!
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Is vardy still alive
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Cautious about getting any player from Geelong given our history.
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Geelong is usually pretty fair at trade time and work to get deals done. Fact is though without Motlop being traded for a pick that would be acceptable to us, odds are it may not happen unless they send a young talent our way which they will be loath to do
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Geelong ... if you want Deledio this will get the job done! Suck it up and you can't expect to get something and give nothing in return.
The only deal that could give Deledio away would be ...
Geelong's 2nd Round Pick, Vardy and 2017 1st Round Pick for Deledio.
Suck it up Geelong and do that deal you bunch of .....!
Not our fault you are putting your eggs into a 2-3 year basket for a flag!
Deledio is trade-able and if it isn't going to be 2 early top 10 or 20 picks then nothing else will do!
:clapping
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Geelong currrently can't trade any future firsts due to the 2 in 4 year rule.
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Tell them to fo, then
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I can see RIchmond accepting a poo deal for lids because, they have Nfi how to neg.
I also reckon lids has no intention of going.
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Just trade for Motlop straight swap fools.
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We want Josh Caddy for Deledio
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I can see RIchmond accepting a poo deal for lids because, they have Nfi how to neg.
I also reckon lids has no intention of going.
Sorry guys we cannot give u 1st rounder as we are not allowed.
No worries Geelong we will accept a 4th
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We want Josh Caddy for Deledio
Yep. Anthony Hudson just said this as well on SEN. Geelong though don't want to give him up.
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Geelong currrently can't trade any future firsts due to the 2 in 4 year rule.
The could trade someone, to someone
For a first or future first - then on trade to us
They just do not want to as they are a pack of bastards and know RFC are stupid / weak
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Trade Lids for Caddy (like that for us)
Trade Pick 6 for Prestia & 21 (pick 6 will go even though I am desperate to keep it)
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Caddy... I don't think i've ever seen him get any more than 20 touches in a game.
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I also think caddy is Shyte
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http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Josh_Caddy.html
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With Prestia we will be the slowest team in the AFL but will get first hands on it to give to the opposition
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Sure is no A grader - would have to say we'd be getting ripped off with a straight swap.
However Geelong reckon they won't do that.
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Pure turd shuffling.
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if we trade pick six for that human meatball, then we may as well just stuffing pack the club up and call it quits now.
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http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Josh_Caddy.html
Decent stats Tbf
Didn't go near it in finals, dooks will be appalled
Outside dangerfield/selwood, All Geelong mids seems to have gone a bit backwards : stagnated since they got danger
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With Prestia we will be the slowest team in the AFL but will get first hands on it to give to the opposition
He looks fast cause his little legs move a lot but he doesn't go anywhere :shh
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Caddy
Hahahahahaha
FMD
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Sure is no A grader - would have to say we'd be getting ripped off with a straight swap.
However Geelong reckon they won't do that.
Geelong reckon a lot of things >:(
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
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The way I see it is Deledio probably only has ~35 games left in him over the next two seasons, Geelong would only be trading him in for the immediate return of a flag, where as we would be trading him out to hopefully take something to the bank and sure up our future. Caddy I don't think is in that class but would have plenty of footy left, but if they could use him to get a pick 15-25 then even better.
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong would be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
:lol would need to dig it up but I'm pretty sure there were cries of using our first pick :shh
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
It's 4 years later. He was a 20 year old early draft pick who showed signs. Now he's a 24 year old who should be in or at least close to his prime so people can judge more on output than potential. Hardly a fair comparison
Can't remember what I said back then but as of now I don't rate him all that highly. Is a type of player we need though
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Geelong's 2nd Round Pick, Vardy and 2017 1st Round Pick for Deledio.
Aren't you notorious for not rating Lids yet you want a deal like that?
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Geelong's 2nd Round Pick, Vardy and 2017 1st Round Pick for Deledio.
Aren't you notorious for not rating Lids yet you want a deal like that?
Wouldn't say notorious compared to sacking Hardwick.
Play hardball with Geelong, that's my view.
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I'd take Caddy.
Hardworking aggressive mid that kicks it pretty well.
Other than Dusty, our mids are weak. Even our kids
Do it Tigers... and forget Prestia
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Caddy averaged 11.5 disposals in this years two finals ... but kicked 3 goals ...
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Caddy averaged 11.5 disposals in this years two finals ... but kicked 3 goals ...
I don't really know but did he play more forward than on ball?
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
4 seasons long time in football.
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Caddy has never caught my eye. Goes missing a lot at crucial times in games. Would rather Cockatoo or a late first rounder TBH. Is big, tough and imposing but rarely uses those traits. We have enough "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" types already!
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Caddy has never caught my eye. Goes missing a lot at crucial times in games. Would rather Cockatoo or a late first rounder TBH. Is big, tough and imposing but rarely uses those traits. We have enough "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" types already!
Yep im with you.
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Interesting the idea of Caddy & Prestia possibly being recruited in 1 year.
They are 2 of the better clearance players in the league which means a new engine room.
Wouldn't be using this year as a guide for Caddy either,bringing in Danger changed his role this year.
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Caddy has never caught my eye. Goes missing a lot at crucial times in games. Would rather Cockatoo or a late first rounder TBH. Is big, tough and imposing but rarely uses those traits. We have enough "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" types already!
Which is a criticism some may hold for Lids too.
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I'd take Caddy.
Hardworking aggressive mid that kicks it pretty well.
Other than Dusty, our mids are weak. Even our kids
Do it Tigers... and forget Prestia
I'd take him too, along with prestia - preferably without giving up pick 6 but that may be difficult..
Prestia goes alright, he's a bull at a gate midfielder something we lack
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Caddy is a genuinegoal kicking mid, just what we need. Cats supporters already melting at the idea of trading Caddy :lol. If Lids wants to go and forego being a one club player then we've got the most out of him and that's not bad compensation. Whoever is running the Herald Sun live trade tracker page reckons Geelong would have to chuck in 35 as a sweetener. Can't see that happening but it would be nice to bend them over for a change.
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Caddy is a goal kicking mid, just what we need. Cats supporters already melting at the idea of trading Caddy :lol. If Lids wants to go and forego being a one club player then we've got the most out of him and that's not bad compensation. Whoever is running the Herald Sun live trade tracker page reckons Geelong would have to chuck in 35 as a sweetener. Can't see that happening but it would be nice to bend them over for a change.
I reckon the guy running the live trade tracker is trolling ;D
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Lids > caddy
35 would be fair not bending over ...
We have dusty, Cotchin, miles. Is Prestia. Bull at the gate or. Wog midget?
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Caddy is a goal kicking mid, just what we need. Cats supporters already melting at the idea of trading Caddy :lol. If Lids wants to go and forego being a one club player then we've got the most out of him and that's not bad compensation. Whoever is running the Herald Sun live trade tracker page reckons Geelong would have to chuck in 35 as a sweetener. Can't see that happening but it would be nice to bend them over for a change.
I reckon the guy running the live trade tracker is trolling ;D
That's what I thought, Geelong fans are already squirming ;D
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What Geelong list boss Stephen Wells said on SEN earlier today:
"We received an approach through their (Deledio & Tuohy) manager late in the season for us to consider those boys coming to join us at Geelong,” Wells said.
“Of course with players of the quality of those two we have an interest, we’d love them to come and play at Geelong.”
Geelong face an uphill battle to satisfy both Richmond and Carlton in a trade, while fitting the duo into their already tight salary cap is another problem.
The Cats held talks with the Tigers at Etihad Stadium on Monday as the trade period kicked off, where the asking price for Deledio was laid out.
“I’ll keep that (specifics) to ourselves but it’s a lot. They really like Brett a lot as a player as you can imagine and they want him to play for the Richmond footy club, he’s a contracted player,” Wells told SEN.
“I think they’re also mindful of the fact that he is getting closer to 30 and is a free agent at the end of next year as well.
“We’ve got a lot of work to sort that out.”
Geelong’s first pick in this year’s draft is currently No.36 but could improve that position should it find a club willing to do a trade for enigmatic forward Steven Motlop.
The Cats are also looking at options to orchestrate a three-way trade.
“That’s probably the way it’ll have to happen,” Wells said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledios-management-approached-geelong-about-a-trade-late-in-the-season/news-story/e72d07c26fa42a01632eac8a7f9e0c8e
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Tigers co-captain? :huh3
Josh Caddy trade, Brett Deledio trade, Richmond has already spoken to the Geelong midfielder Josh Caddy over trade for Tigers co-captain
Jake Niall
Foxsports
11 October 2016 6:30pm
RICHMOND has already spoken to Geelong midfielder Josh Caddy about a possible move to Punt Road with Caddy seen as the obvious trade for Brett Deledio.
Caddy is understood to have spoken to the Tigers in recent days prior to going overseas and his management have also been in contact with Richmond which identified the strong midfielder as a potential exchange for Deledio, who wants to join the Cats.
But Geelong, while aware of Richmond’s interest, has not offered Caddy to the Tigers as part of any Deledio trade. The Cats acknowledge the deal must involve a player being shifted out due to salary cap concerns and the need to satisfy Richmond.
Caddy has emerged as a potential solution — provided Geelong is willing to trade him — after Steven Motlop, long considered the suitable trade for the Cats, was rejected as an option by the Tigers.
Richmond has told Deledio that he might not be traded to the Cats and that he could be stuck at Tigerland in 2017, the last year of his hefty contract which will see him paid in excess of $700,000. Deledio would almost certainly renegotiate a new deal in order to fit under Geelong’s salary cap and extend his contract.
Deledio understands and accepts the club’s position, though he is keen on a move having requested the trade to Geelong to freshen up his career. Richmond has been adamant that it will not trade the two-time best and fairest winner and two-time All-Australian without a worthwhile return, either in draft picks or a player.
Geelong has been hamstrung by the lack of a first-round draft pick, having traded it to Carlton for Lachie Henderson during last year’s trade period. But the Cats will not make an application for the AFL to use their 2017 first round selection in this deal, which is permitted under the rules.
Caddy fits Richmond’s need for a strong inside midfielder with size. He is behind both Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood in the Cats’ pecking order for stoppage-type players, and Caddy did not have a great season in 2016. He played 18 games averaging 20.2 disposals, finishing outside the top ten in Geelong’s best and fairest count.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-has-already-spoken-to-geelong-midfielder-josh-caddy-over-trade-for-brett-deledio/news-story/63bb2a86965726d8f45d23fe870d6a44
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Josh Caddy has emerged as the name Richmond wants from Geelong in return for Deledio. Close with Prestia, Balme connection.
https://twitter.com/barrettdamian
As revealed on AFL Trade Radio, it is understood Caddy’s close relationships with both potential recruit Dion Prestia and former Cats football boss Neil Balme, are both key factors in the pursuit of the 24-year-old.
Caddy joined Geelong in 2012 in return for one of the two compensation picks the club gained for Gary Ablett. He has played 81 games in his four seasons at the Cats.
Geelong rates Caddy highly, and would prefer to bring Deledio to Simonds Stadium using other players and picks.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-11/could-caddy-be-the-key-jrz
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
Is there anyone here that wouldn't trade lids for koladash and caddy??
Doubt that. We would be laughing I rate that kid.
This is a trade for caddy for lids which given his output so far would not be a wise move. He hasn't come on.
Trade him elsewhere and give us a pick around 15
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
Serious pot shot at site members or stirring the pot?
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Cady was an a grade prospect four years ago
Now he's alright
Moving difference Wp doesn't want to look at
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
Serious pot shot at site members or stirring the pot?
Neither just making an observation and giving an opinion
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:lol :lol
Seem to remember when Caddy was leaving the Suns people on here wanted him , said he was going to be a gun and were peeved that the Tigers didn't go after him :lol
So It seems to me it doesn't matter who we got from Geelong it wouldn't be enough
I'd take Caddy as part of the deal, throw in another player say the young lad Kolijaz (not sure how to spell it) and I'd say deal :thumbsup
Is there anyone here that wouldn't trade lids for koladash and caddy??
Doubt that. We would be laughing I rate that kid.
This is a trade for caddy for lids which given his output so far would not be a wise move. He hasn't come on.
Trade him elsewhere and give us a pick around 15
Caddy would be or 3rd best midfielder at the club. We have a plethora of sh/7
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From Foxsports.com.au via Twitter
Jake Niall
RICHMOND has already spoken to Geelong midfielder Josh Caddy about a possible move to Punt Road with Caddy seen as the obvious trade for Brett Deledio.
Caddy is understood to have spoken to the Tigers in recent days prior to going overseas and his management have also been in contact with Richmond which identified the strong midfielder as a potential exchange for Deledio, who wants to join the Cats.
But Geelong, while aware of Richmond’s interest, has not offered Caddy to the Tigers as part of any Deledio trade. The Cats acknowledge the deal must involve a player being shifted out due to salary cap concerns and the need to satisfy Richmond.
Caddy has emerged as a potential solution — provided Geelong is willing to trade him — after Steven Motlop, long considered the suitable trade for the Cats, was rejected as an option by the Tigers.
Richmond has told Deledio that he might not be traded to the Cats and that he could be stuck at Tigerland in 2017, the last year of his hefty contract which will see him paid in excess of $700,000. Deledio would almost certainly renegotiate a new deal in order to fit under Geelong’s salary cap and extend his contract.
Deledio understands and accepts the club’s position, though he is keen on a move having requested the trade to Geelong to freshen up his career. Richmond has been adamant that it will not trade the two-time best and fairest winner and two-time All-Australian without a worthwhile return, either in draft picks or a player.
Geelong has been hamstrung by the lack of a first-round draft pick, having traded it to Carlton for Lachie Henderson during last year’s trade period. But the Cats will not make an application for the AFL to use their 2017 first round selection in this deal, which is permitted under the rules.
Caddy fits Richmond’s need for a strong inside midfielder with size. He is behind both Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood in the Cats’ pecking order for stoppage-type players, and Caddy did not have a great season in 2016. He played 18 games averaging 20.2 disposals, finishing outside the top ten in Geelong’s best and fairest count.
Richmond is in discussions with Gold Coast over Dion Prestia, in a deal that will almost certainly involve the Tigers giving up pick six. They have told the Suns they want a pick back in return for number six as apart of the Prestia deal, which is expected to go through in the coming days.
The Tigers are also likely to pick up ruckman Toby Nankervis from Sydney, having offered him greater opportunities and a two-year contract.
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From Foxsports.com.au via Twitter
Jake Niall
RICHMOND has already spoken to Geelong midfielder Josh Caddy about a possible move to Punt Road with Caddy seen as the obvious trade for Brett Deledio.
Caddy is understood to have spoken to the Tigers in recent days prior to going overseas and his management have also been in contact with Richmond which identified the strong midfielder as a potential exchange for Deledio, who wants to join the Cats.
But Geelong, while aware of Richmond’s interest, has not offered Caddy to the Tigers as part of any Deledio trade. The Cats acknowledge the deal must involve a player being shifted out due to salary cap concerns and the need to satisfy Richmond.
Caddy has emerged as a potential solution — provided Geelong is willing to trade him — after Steven Motlop, long considered the suitable trade for the Cats, was rejected as an option by the Tigers.
Richmond has told Deledio that he might not be traded to the Cats and that he could be stuck at Tigerland in 2017, the last year of his hefty contract which will see him paid in excess of $700,000. Deledio would almost certainly renegotiate a new deal in order to fit under Geelong’s salary cap and extend his contract.
Deledio understands and accepts the club’s position, though he is keen on a move having requested the trade to Geelong to freshen up his career. Richmond has been adamant that it will not trade the two-time best and fairest winner and two-time All-Australian without a worthwhile return, either in draft picks or a player.
Geelong has been hamstrung by the lack of a first-round draft pick, having traded it to Carlton for Lachie Henderson during last year’s trade period. But the Cats will not make an application for the AFL to use their 2017 first round selection in this deal, which is permitted under the rules.
Caddy fits Richmond’s need for a strong inside midfielder with size. He is behind both Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood in the Cats’ pecking order for stoppage-type players, and Caddy did not have a great season in 2016. He played 18 games averaging 20.2 disposals, finishing outside the top ten in Geelong’s best and fairest count.
Richmond is in discussions with Gold Coast over Dion Prestia, in a deal that will almost certainly involve the Tigers giving up pick six. They have told the Suns they want a pick back in return for number six as apart of the Prestia deal, which is expected to go through in the coming days.
The Tigers are also likely to pick up ruckman Toby Nankervis from Sydney, having offered him greater opportunities and a two-year contract.
Wow, overall sounds like we're actually doing ok.
Deledio for Caddy :thumbsup
Prestia for a downgrade of pick 6 (possibly 22 & 23) :thumbsup
Nankervis :thumbsup
Hampson to head back to the VFL for most of '17 :birthday :santa :santa :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Richmond eyes Geelong’s Josh Caddy in deal for Brett Deledio
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
October 11, 2016 7:15pm
RICHMOND wants to prise hard nut Josh Caddy out of Geelong in return for Brett Deledio.
The Tigers have informed Geelong they are keen on Caddy to help support captain Trent Cotchin and superstar Dustin Martin inside its bolstered midfield next season.
But Cats sources said the club was reluctant to lose Caddy in a straight swap and is aware it could potentially land Deledio, 29, for nothing at the end of 2017.
Richmond is also on the brink of landing Caddy’s former Gold Coast teammate, Dion Prestia, in the coming days, potentially in return for the Tigers’ No. 6 pick.
Caddie and Prestia, who are both 24 and were originally taken with top-10 picks in the 2010 national draft, would inject much-needed steel into Richmond’s midfield set-up next season as the club attempts to re-enter the finals mix under Damien Hardwick.
The Tigers averaged the third-least number of stoppages wins last season, with 22 per game.
The Cats were on Tuesday night considering Richmond’s request but have not ruled out waiting another year to secure Deledio, 29, for nothing as a free agent at the end of 2017.
Geelong goal kicking great Billy Brownless said it was a worthy deal for the Cats.
“Caddy is good, but he didn’t kick on this year,” Brownless said on Triple M.
“We were waiting for him to kick on, because he can be a very hard tough midfielder, which they want.
“But I would love to see Deledio there and if this is going to make it work, well, let’s do the deal.”
Caddy has been a solid servant in Geelong’s midfield over the past four seasons but did not finish in the top 10 of the Cats’ best-and-fairest this season, despite finishing with 18 games and 21 goals for the year.
He averaged 20 disposals a game this season, including nine contested possessions and seven score involvements, which is ranked elite for a midfielder, according to Champion Data.
Caddy is contracted at Geelong for two more seasons.
His potential replacement, Deledio, would almost certainly have to accept a pay cut in the vicinity of $200,000 to make the move to Geelong and be part of their premiership push next season.
Deledio was believed to be on about $800,000 at Punt Rd next season but would have to accept substantially less to fit into the Cats’ tight pay scale.
Deledio’s parents and brother, Matt, live on the Surf Coast.
Geelong also wants to secure speedy Carlton backman Zach Tuohy, but Cats list chief Stephen Wells said it would be tough to land both Tuohy and Deledio.
Wells said both players approached Geelong about swapping clubs.
“We received an approach through their managers late in the season for us to consider those boys coming to join us at Geelong,” Wells said.
“Of course with players of the quality of those two we have an interest, we would love them to come and play at Geelong.”
Wells said the Cats might have to orchestrate a three-way trade to grab Deledio.
“That’s probably the way it’ll have to happen,” Wells said.
“I think they’re also mindful of the fact that he is getting closer to 30 and is a free agent at the end of next year as well.
“We’ve got a lot of work to sort that out.”
Caddy was traded to Geelong at the end of 2012 as part of the Cats’ compensation for losing superstar Gary Ablett.
If Caddy departed, Geelong could fill the onball void with hardball winner Sam Menagola or George Horlin-Smith.
Caddy is well-known to former Geelong football manager Neil Balme, who last month took over Richmond’s football department.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/geelong/richmond-eyes-geelongs-josh-caddy-in-deal-for-brett-deledio/news-story/886e85c30e81ab1841199742d73eb4b6
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Caddy big time finals player it seems
Will fit in nicely at Punt Road :gotigers
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I hope this happens.
caddy will still be winning clearances after delido has retired.
Lids knows he hasn't got long left in the game, and it seems he reckons he is more likely to win a premiership at geelong.
Prestia and him make our side better and give us lot of grunt, hard ball winning and acceptable disposal.
When was last time we used our draft picks and ended up with two players that can earn their keep from the one draft?
Draft picks are soooo over rated.
If we got these two and didn't have a first round pick id be happy.
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
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Mail is mixed messages from the Tigers
Want draft pick for Lids, not want player ( caddy )
Who knows what's going on
Cats were going to move on two players for a draft pick in return, then on trade the pick to the Tigers for Lids
Now that we want a player ???
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Mail is mixed messages from the Tigers
Want draft pick for Lids, not want player ( caddy )
Who knows what's going on
Cats were going to move on two players for a draft pick in return, then on trade the pick to the Tigers for Lids
Now that we want a player ???
Well to be fair, it needs to be mixed messages because the possibilities are mixed. No point speculating on what pick we may get because they don't have one to give. The only thing they have is players and they need to trade them away for picks to give us or just trade the player straight to us.
I get the feeling that Lids has left his run too late.
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I hope this happens.
caddy will still be winning clearances after delido has retired.
Lids knows he hasn't got long left in the game, and it seems he reckons he is more likely to win a premiership at geelong.
Prestia and him make our side better and give us lot of grunt, hard ball winning and acceptable disposal.
When was last time we used our draft picks and ended up with two players that can earn their keep from the one draft?
Draft picks are soooo over rated.
If we got these two and didn't have a first round pick id be happy.
Stop being logical. It dampens the hysteria
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But the Tigers wanted another draft pick to on trade to the Gold Coast
Draft pick is extremely important to us
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But the Tigers wanted another draft pick to on trade to the Gold Coast
Draft pick is extremely important to us
Need to try to get GWS involved. They have picks 15 & 16. If Geelong want to offload Motlop, he would be a good fit for GWS. They give 15 to Geelong who pass it onto us for Lids. We pass on the pick to GC with a player ?Lennon/Conca. Prestia to us.
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But the Tigers wanted another draft pick to on trade to the Gold Coast
Draft pick is extremely important to us
I'd rather Caddy than a pick. Our draft selections have been a mixed success at the very best.
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
Yeah but some people wanted him four years ago ..
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Caddy? Meh
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
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Just thinking outside the square here,
But Bartell and Caddy for Lids?
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Wow! Please post your opinion more often :clapping :gotigers
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actually 16 goals in 2015 and 15 the year before. This year 21. Shane Edwards numbers :thumbsup
That being said i think we have to deal as our recruiters are hopeless and Caracella may be able to move him to another level.
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Just thinking outside the square here,
But Bartell and Caddy for Lids?
why would we want bartel for a year caddy yes and grab another one of there younger kids so we can develop then make the deal for lids
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actually 16 goals in 2015 and 15 the year before. This year 21. Shane Edwards numbers :thumbsup
That being said i think we have to deal as our recruiters are hopeless and Caracella may be able to move him to another level.
Caracella has been a coach of his at Geelong
Why would he suddenly be the master stroke
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Agree. I'm all for Lids / Caddy swap.
Add Prestia and Caddy to our midfield and it looks a lot less fragile.
They're both the right age group too, so if we do need to bottom out for a couple of years they will still be around at the other end of it.
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Sounds like the Cats are not going to part with a Caddy.
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Just thinking outside the square here,
But Bartell and Caddy for Lids?
why would we want bartel for a year caddy yes and grab another one of there younger kids so we can develop then make the deal for lids
Well Bartell does come from a culture of one of the most successful clubs in the modern era. Might bring something to the club that we have so sorely been missing the last 35 years.
Caddy and a 3rd rounder might be the offer. But 3rd rounder is unlikely to do much. So why not Bartell? Again, just throwing up ideas.
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Just thinking outside the square here,
But Bartell and Caddy for Lids?
why would we want bartel for a year caddy yes and grab another one of there younger kids so we can develop then make the deal for lids
Well Bartell does come from a culture of one of the most successful clubs in the modern era. Might bring something to the club that we have so sorely been missing the last 35 years.
Caddy and a 3rd rounder might be the offer. But 3rd rounder is unlikely to do much. So why not Bartell? Again, just throwing up ideas.
Can we get Boomer Harvey and Sam Mitchell as well
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Just thinking outside the square here,
But Bartell and Caddy for Lids?
why would we want bartel for a year caddy yes and grab another one of there younger kids so we can develop then make the deal for lids
Well Bartell does come from a culture of one of the most successful clubs in the modern era. Might bring something to the club that we have so sorely been missing the last 35 years.
Caddy and a 3rd rounder might be the offer. But 3rd rounder is unlikely to do much. So why not Bartell? Again, just throwing up ideas.
Can we get Boomer Harvey and Sam Mitchell as well
Argh Chuck I thought you'd turned over a new leaf after you last post.
Out with the old, in with the nucleus.
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Wow! Please post your opinion more often :clapping :gotigers
Prefer the predictable one liners.
BTW Caddy is average. One paced with limited skill. Rather keep Miles.
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Lol. Is Miles leaving?
That's fkd if true
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How about Lids and Pick 6 for danger? :whistle
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Lol. Is Miles leaving?
That's fkd if true
Amen to that
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Wow! Please post your opinion more often :clapping :gotigers
Prefer the predictable one liners.
BTW Caddy is average. One paced with limited skill. Rather keep Miles.
Im sure you would, it makes unshaved bums like you have an easier time to peddle your poo
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"Unshaved bums" :bow
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ily Chuck.
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Notes to self
1. Shave
2. Don't mess w chuck
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3. Never forget Grigg
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Grigg is just the most pooey part of Damien's poo-cake
A breathing symbol of what a circus this club is (I am still shattered Chaplin hung up the boots )
But don't worry - we will get rid of deledio. That'll fix it all ... My kingdom for a non-depressed yarren in that (me Griggs wing) , spot :pray
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Grigg is just the most pooey part of Damien's poo-cake
A breathing symbol of what a circus this club is (I am still shattered Chaplin hung up the boots )
But don't worry - we will get rid of deledio. That'll fix it all ... My kingdom for a non-depressed yarren in that spot :pray
:lol
Yaz has been doing meditation in Bali. He has reached enlightenment and by all accounts will be like a new recruit.
On a serous note, how come you applaud the Hawks for offloading Mitchell but dispair at the idea of losing Lids?
I mean if we get nothing for him, fair enough pee and moan. But if we get a good young player in return then surely you can see value in it?
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I am not sure if u are serious
Did hawthorn give new deals to grigg Houli Hampson hunt Morris and other assorted damien groupies?
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Right because we signed Grigg we should not entertain selling any players who may have value.
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Signing crap players on mass and selling a star seems to strange to me
I am in favour of trading deledio for young players - assuming we would try and 'rebuild' the list, somewhat.
The current list management IMHO is weak, half pregnant calamity. One should not be surprise as key decisions are formulated on such matters as perceived media pressure and Betamax loins as he swims in the bay
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
:clapping
Great post :bow
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Any actions pre the sacking of hardwick are hard to get enthused about.
It's like, Lambs to the slaughter.
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Lol. Is Miles leaving?
That's fkd if true
No he's staying (wants to anyway) and will sign early next year. Family and loyalty very important to him.
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Any actions pre the sacking of hardwick are hard to get enthused about.
It's like, Lambs to the slaughter.
I agree, just knowing he is there and are draft, trade strategies may be aligned to him making 8th for next year just make me want to vomit. Particularly when we will miss the 8 anyway and would have wasted the last 2 seasons
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Wow! Please post your opinion more often :clapping :gotigers
Prefer the predictable one liners.
BTW Caddy is average. One paced with limited skill. Rather keep Miles.
Im sure you would, it makes unshaved bums like you have an easier time to peddle your poo
That's better. Stick with this.
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Do not want. Overall he has been average at best, failed too often to stand up in pressure games and that is after what 6 or 7 seasons.
He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
Personally id rather keep Deledio and i am one who has thought Brett is an ideal one to trade out.
FMD I can't believe this.
He has played six seasons and is statistically getting better every season, the last two he has averaged 20 odd disposals, 4 tackles and kicked approx 20 goals each season, and this is despite having to play second fiddle to Selwood and Dangerfield.
Deledio on the other hand is breaking down every year and this year was the worst and even when he did play he could barely kick the ball until his last few games and then he broke down again. He has limited time left and the time to get value for him was probably last year but if we hold onto any longer his value will drop remarkably.
Our drafting for pure mids has been the second worst thing behind our ruck drafting (or lack of it), after Cotch, Martin and Lids were performing well in 2012 RFC clearly thought our midfield was done and started drafting part time mids who played elsewhere eg Vlastuin, Ellis, Lennon, Conca.
We are crying out for big bodied mids who can tackle and can push forward to kick goals and what do we hear, ah no lets keep an ageing broken down player until he has no value.
Welcome to mediocrity for another 35 years with that attitude.
I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Great post.
The other thing to remember is we had Tuck and Jackson and Foley protecting the kids then. All B-graders but undeniably tough and the Tuck + Jackson combo was very physically competitive.
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I for one am glad the RFC is finally trying to correct some of the wrongs in the last three years but hey I understand some prefer the RFC to perform badly just so they can run their whingeing whining agenda all day long.
Yes everything is going swimmingly.
Thank you Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
Like a band aid on a tumour
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:lol
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Lol. Is Miles leaving?
That's fkd if true
No he's staying (wants to anyway) and will sign early next year. Family and loyalty very important to him.
Good.
I know he was peeed off about being dropped in 2016 and I fully support his anger.
stuffn hardwick is clueless.
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Luke Beveridge wants deledio.
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Forza lids
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Doggies have a plethora of young talented mids we could potentially trade Lids for
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Lids and pick 6 for Tom Boyd
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Interesting, Gee and DOGS want Lids,
What are we missing here?
1. Do we mismanage his body/games ratio?
2. Do they want him for their premiership window?
3. Do we play him incorrectly?
any other options??
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bit of 1.
bit of 2.
we finally got 3 right the last few years
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Interesting, Gee and DOGS want Lids,
What are we missing here?
1. Do we mismanage his body/games ratio?
2. Do they want him for their premiership window?
3. Do we play him incorrectly?
any other options??
Your first point is a tricky one. Maybe YBB can confirm or repute this but really the best thing/way to recover from an Achilles is to not run for about 2 years. Tendons are poorly vasculated and take a long time to properly replenish scar tissue. So whilst he played limited game time in the last season it was actually quite solid managment not to play him. I would have thought that had we been in a position to play finals he would have played a lot more football this year.
Clubs should be aware that an achilles isnt necessarily career ending if you can get it right. Which means his trade value should be stronger than that of someone who has missed almost half the games over the past 2 years. I would hope the dogs and any other team would want a quality a grader. Lids wanting a flag before he finishes up means many clubs are out of the question from his point of view (I would think).
Agree with TM, he was playing in his natural position as a half forward the last few years. His kicking is possibly his best attribute. The more he plays around the goals, the more dangerous he is going to be.
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Pick 18 and a young talented player pls.
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Stringer thanks Scraggers, ta....
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Caddy 'happy' at Geelong, no plans to leave: manager
AFL.com.au
12 October 2016 4:30pm
JOSH Caddy isn’t planning to leave Geelong, despite genuine interest from Richmond in the wake of Brett Deledio's potential move to the Cats.
It emerged on Monday that Deledio had told Richmond he would consider a move, and the Tigers had expressed an interest in Caddy as part of a potential deal between the two clubs.
Caddy's manager Peter Lenton told NAB Trade Radio on Wednesday that he had held conversations with both clubs about the situation, but said Caddy is keen to remain at the Cats.
"I've had chats with Richmond and they've indicated their desire to get Josh through if Brett was to depart," Lenton said.
"I've spoken with Geelong and Josh is happy where he is. He bought a house three weeks ago in Geelong so he was never planning on moving anywhere. So that sort of puts a different perspective on it.
"He hasn't chosen anything. He's just sitting given that he's contracted and Geelong haven't given us any indication that he's going anywhere.
"It's something that we're fine to leave in the hands of the clubs. If there's something there that Geelong feels helps them, then OK. If Geelong feels it's not what they want to do, that's where Josh's head is at."
Caddy is contracted to the Cats until the end of 2018.
New Tigers football manager Neil Balme was a key figure in getting Caddy to Geelong from Gold Coast, while Caddy has also played with Dion Prestia, who looks set to join Richmond.
But Lenton said those pre-existing relationships were not a factor in any of the initial discussions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-12/caddy-happy-at-geelong-no-plans-to-leave-says-manager
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Reads to me like he'd be happy enough to come across.
I mean, how happy would anyone be going from Geelong to Richmond?
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He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
20 disposals and a goal a game isn't something to sneeze at.
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He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
20 disposals and a goal a game isn't something to sneeze at.
Conca averages 18 for point of reference.
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He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
20 disposals and a goal a game isn't something to sneeze at.
Plus he tackles at a higher average than practically all our team
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He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
20 disposals and a goal a game isn't something to sneeze at.
Conca averages 18 for point of reference.
:clapping
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" JOSH Caddy isn’t planning to leave Geelong, despite genuine interest from Richmond in the wake of Brett Deledio's potential move to the Cats."
Well Lids said not long ago he wasn't going anywhere too. Looks like a done deal then.
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Twitter is all a flutter about lids now wanting to go the Bulldogs
From SENAFTERNOONS twitter feed
Rohan Connolly reporting that Luke Beveridge is very intrested in Brett Deledio
And
Ch7 saying they new "news" about Tiger Deledio
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Twitter is all a flutter about lids now wantong to go the Bulldog
From SENAFTERNOONS twitter feed
Rohan Connolly reporting that Luke Beveridge is very intrested in Brett Deledio
And
Ch7 saying they new "news" about Tiger Deledio
Word on the traps is 18 and Honeychurch for Lids.
Would much prefer Caddy tbh.
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
Would want to make sure GC will accept that before taking it for Lids.
Essentially means we get Prestia and Honeychurch for Lids and Lennon. Not bad.
Think I'm still in the Caddy camp at this stage.
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Twitter is all a flutter about lids now wantong to go the Bulldog
From SENAFTERNOONS twitter feed
Rohan Connolly reporting that Luke Beveridge is very intrested in Brett Deledio
And
Ch7 saying they new "news" about Tiger Deledio
Word on the traps is 18 and Honeychurch for Lids.
Would much prefer Caddy tbh.
if given a choice i would also.
he is skata.
176 cms :thumbsdown
with prestia at 180 cms is that really want we want?
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Twitter is all a flutter about lids now wantong to go the Bulldog
From SENAFTERNOONS twitter feed
Rohan Connolly reporting that Luke Beveridge is very intrested in Brett Deledio
And
Ch7 saying they new "news" about Tiger Deledio
Word on the traps is 18 and Honeychurch for Lids.
Would much prefer Caddy tbh.
:lol
You can buy a 3 game Cats membership :shh
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Twitter is all a flutter about lids now wantong to go the Bulldog
From SENAFTERNOONS twitter feed
Rohan Connolly reporting that Luke Beveridge is very intrested in Brett Deledio
And
Ch7 saying they new "news" about Tiger Deledio
Word on the traps is 18 and Honeychurch for Lids.
Would much prefer Caddy tbh.
if given a choice i would also.
he is skata.
176 cms :thumbsdown
with prestia at 180 cms is that really want we want?
Mini bogan
And mini wog.
Oh boy
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We will stuff this one up..
The Richmond way :banghead
Right on target for this one :banghead
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
A swap of Lennon for Prestia is a very fair trade & nothing more. Both players have had injury interrupted seasons. Prestia is a risk as much as Lennon. l don;t see any other club going after Prestia l wonder why.
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
A swap of Lennon for Prestia is a very fair trade & nothing more. Both players have had injury interrupted seasons. Prestia is a risk as much as Lennon. l don;t see any other club going after Prestia l wonder why.
Maybe because he has nominated us early on?
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
A swap of Lennon for Prestia is a very fair trade & nothing more. Both players have had injury interrupted seasons. Prestia is a risk as much as Lennon. l don;t see any other club going after Prestia l wonder why.
Got your Richmond goggles on there mate. Prestia worth a fair bit more than Lennon.
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
A swap of Lennon for Prestia is a very fair trade & nothing more. Both players have had injury interrupted seasons. Prestia is a risk as much as Lennon. l don;t see any other club going after Prestia l wonder why.
Got your Richmond goggles on there mate. Prestia worth a fair bit more than Lennon.
100%
Prestia top-shelf inside mid.
Lennon early pick shown FA and poor attitude/sook.
As for the actual swapping of Lids + Lennon for Prestia + Honeychurch, well I don't know anything about Honeychurch but I think Lennon for anything is a win and Lids for Prestia is a good deal for us.
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Honeychurch is a bonafide VFL player.
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18 and honeychurch means we pass 18 and Lennon to GC. We get Prestige and keep pick 6.
A swap of Lennon for Prestia is a very fair trade & nothing more. Both players have had injury interrupted seasons. Prestia is a risk as much as Lennon. l don;t see any other club going after Prestia l wonder why.
:lol
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Twitter all a flutter
Saying Dogs player would be Hrovat not Honeychurch
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
Yes the twitter flutter is pick 18 + player being Hrovat
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Where does pick 15 come from? Isn't their first pick 18?
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
Yes the twitter flutter is pick 15 + player being Hrovat
Where do the Dogs get pick 15 from?
Their first allocated pick is 18, GWS have pick 15.
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
Yes the twitter flutter is pick 15 + player being Hrovat
Where do the Dogs get pick 15 from?
Their first allocated pick is 18, GWS have pick 15.
Sorry typo
It's pick 18
Corrected
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Stevo knows he is a dish licker from way back.
Bevo not interested.
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
Yes the twitter flutter is pick 15 + player being Hrovat
Where do the Dogs get pick 15 from?
Their first allocated pick is 18, GWS have pick 15.
Sorry typo
It's pick 18
Corrected
You must of been all a flutter
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Hrovat is already on the table so makes more sense. Would they be chucking in 18 as Hrovat alone wouldn't do it?
Yes the twitter flutter is pick 15 + player being Hrovat
Where do the Dogs get pick 15 from?
Their first allocated pick is 18, GWS have pick 15.
Sorry typo
It's pick 18
Corrected
You must of been all a flutter
Have* been
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have*
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Just heard this rumour:
Stringer, Hrovat & 18 for Deledio, Lennon & 27
18, 42 & Miles for Prestia & 24
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Just heard this rumour:
Stringer, Hrovat & 18 for Deledio, Lennon & 27
18, 42 & Miles for Prestia & 24
That sounds more complicated than Dimmas game plan, probably as effective
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Is Prestia better than miles ? ...
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Is Prestia better than miles ? ...
miles better.
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Is Prestia better than miles ? ...
miles better.
:lol
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"Josh Caddy's future is unclear, according to his manager. While Caddy never had any intention of leaving the Cattery, he's not opposed to moving to the Tigers as part of a trade for Brett Deledio. However his manager says they will be leaving that up to the two clubs to sort out."
From The Age
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Just heard this rumour:
Stringer, Hrovat & 18 for Deledio, Lennon & 27
18, 42 & Miles for Prestia & 24
That sounds more complicated than Dimmas game plan, probably as effective
Not really all that complicated, though Stringer's inclusion makes it somewhat hard to believe....
Is Prestia better than miles ? ...
Yes - and really would you give that much of a shyte if we kept pick 6, got a lower second round pick and Stringer? Hell, getting Stringer alone would almost be enough....
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Just heard this rumour:
Stringer, Hrovat & 18 for Deledio, Lennon & 27
18, 42 & Miles for Prestia & 24
Addendum: Could also be Stevens in the deal instead of Hrovat....
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Just heard this rumour:
Stringer, Hrovat & 18 for Deledio, Lennon & 27
18, 42 & Miles for Prestia & 24
That sounds more complicated than Dimmas game plan, probably as effective
Not really all that complicated, though Stringer's inclusion makes it somewhat hard to believe....
Is Prestia better than miles ? ...
Yes - and really would you give that much of a shyte if we kept pick 6, got a lower second round pick and Stringer? Hell, getting Stringer alone would almost be enough....
If you're ever going to go after Stringer now is the time. But that also says to me we're ready to give it another crack next season.
Stringer>>Lennon
Prestia>>Miles
Lids for pick 24 is actually not far off the mark.
Would be incredible, but won't happen. I'm sure the Stringer thing is a rumour.
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Stringer is primed .... To come to RIchmond and take over from Vickery as laziest prick
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Stringer would be our best pick up from another VFL/AFL club since Ian Stewart (Maurice was from the WAFL).....
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Flawed players shouldn't come to the RFC while dimmer is there
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He has been disappointiung to watch and when you dig deeper he has been disappointing statistically as well.
20 disposals and a goal a game isn't something to sneeze at.
Conca averages 18 for point of reference.
So you think Conca is as good as Caddy?
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Stringer another player who goes missing in finals ;)
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Stringer would be our best pick up from another VFL/AFL club since Ian Stewart (Maurice was from the WAFL).....
Agreed.
Stringer is a star.
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Ch 7 news last night claimed the Dogs said no can do re: Lids.
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Stringer another player who goes missing in finals ;)
Yes but he is younger than Lids so we have the added benefit if him going missing in finals for many more years to come ( finals are a pipe dream anyway).
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Get the feeling he wont be going anywhere.
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Ill :chuck if we off load him and pay part of his wage.
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Stringer another player who goes missing in finals ;)
Yes but he is younger than Lids so we have the added benefit if him going missing in finals for many more years to come ( finals are a pipe dream anyway).
:lol :lol
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Think its time to roll the dice .
Who won the Judd/Kennedy trade in the end . I'm thinking West Coast.
Deledio will probably be a superior player to Caddy in 2017.....but how about 2018 and beyond.
Lids may never overcome his injury issues.
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Caddy might get might by a tram
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Caddy might get might by a tram
Or Deledio and Caddy might get hit by the same train
But what is the most likely ::)
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Caddy might get might by a tram
Or Deledio and Caddy might get hit by the same train
But what is the most likely ::)
The one playing for Richmond.
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Hey about say Gellong FO
we keep him for another season then he can come and we get compo
Stop wasting our stuffing time we have real deals to do
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Deledio for Caddy straight swap turned down by Cats, they want pick 27 and lids for Caddy and 35.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru
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Deledio for Caddy straight swap turned down by Cats, they want pick 27 and lids for Caddy and 35.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru
I want Caddy. Allegedly this draft is shallow so is it worth dropping the 2nd round down a bit?
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Deledio for Caddy straight swap turned down by Cats, they want pick 27 and lids for Caddy and 35.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru
I want Caddy. Allegedly this draft is shallow so is it worth dropping the 2nd round down a bit?
I've heard its pretty deep from a few sources. I'm surprised Geelong have rejected the trade.
I potentially walk away from this one for a bit, lock in the Prestia deal. Geelong can get back to us later on. We're not in a desperate position to trade Lids.
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Deledio for Caddy straight swap turned down by Cats, they want pick 27 and lids for Caddy and 35.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru
Posturing. It will get done.
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Coming up on Ch7 news
Lids speaks
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Lids said
* no story here
* he didnt request a trade but open to it
* lot of water to pass under the bridge
* not popular on twitter at the moment
Steveo said he will be a cat by next Tuesday
Whatever
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news just said "it's a certainty that Deledio will be a Cat".
They then interviewed Lids and he said we'll know more by next week (Tuesday). He hasn't requested anything (any move) but he's looking at what is out there.
Ch 9 news also tried to interview Lids at some fashion show he's at now but the audio interference meant you couldn't hear what they were saying and Ch 9 had to cut the interview short.
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Bit disappointed with Lids leaving if he does. Actually it's all been pretty disappointing the way AFL is heading with the trade period.
I am a bit old school and I like to see the long term players like Lids and Mitchell finish off at the club they started at, I suppose that's just where the game has gone.
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think in time its only going to get worse and I think it will favour the bigger clubs more then the lower clubs... u look at where current players want to go hawks,cats why not have a few tigers sure dion wants to be a part of the club but for 600K a year id go to the tigers as well
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Bit disappointed with Lids leaving if he does. Actually it's all been pretty disappointing the way AFL is heading with the trade period.
I am a bit old school and I like to see the long term players like Lids and Mitchell finish off at the club they started at, I suppose that's just where the game has gone.
Maybe. I think Clubs are realising that the old school mentality gets in the way of winning flags.
I'll be shattered if (when) Lids goes, but fact is I'm glad to see RFC being a little aggresive, a little bold and getting something other than a parade for a modern great!
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Bit disappointed with Lids leaving if he does. Actually it's all been pretty disappointing the way AFL is heading with the trade period.
I am a bit old school and I like to see the long term players like Lids and Mitchell finish off at the club they started at, I suppose that's just where the game has gone.
Maybe. I think Clubs are realising that the old school mentality gets in the way of winning flags.
I'll be shattered if (when) Lids goes, but fact is I'm glad to see RFC being a little aggresive, a little bold and getting something other than a parade for a modern great!
Aggressive should have been trading Ellis and Edwards too.
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Bit disappointed with Lids leaving if he does. Actually it's all been pretty disappointing the way AFL is heading with the trade period.
I am a bit old school and I like to see the long term players like Lids and Mitchell finish off at the club they started at, I suppose that's just where the game has gone.
Maybe. I think Clubs are realising that the old school mentality gets in the way of winning flags.
I'll be shattered if (when) Lids goes, but fact is I'm glad to see RFC being a little aggresive, a little bold and getting something other than a parade for a modern great!
Aggressive should have been trading Ellis and Edwards too.
I dunno, is trading your B graders (and I say OUR B graders - C anywhere else) aggressive?
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Bit disappointed with Lids leaving if he does. Actually it's all been pretty disappointing the way AFL is heading with the trade period.
I am a bit old school and I like to see the long term players like Lids and Mitchell finish off at the club they started at, I suppose that's just where the game has gone.
Maybe. I think Clubs are realising that the old school mentality gets in the way of winning flags.
I'll be shattered if (when) Lids goes, but fact is I'm glad to see RFC being a little aggresive, a little bold and getting something other than a parade for a modern great!
Aggressive should have been trading Ellis and Edwards too.
I dunno, is trading your B graders (and I say OUR B graders - C anywhere else) aggressive?
Well I think Lids is A grade, certainly was prior to the injuries. Well many here said Edwards is "elite"...so surely he would have value.
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Yeah we should've traded Marcon instead of delisting him....clubs would surely pay up for other club's cream....
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maybe if we package up morris, hunt, townsend, moore we could get an early 3rd round pick
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Yeah we should've traded Marcon instead of delisting him....clubs would surely pay up for other club's cream....
Damien Hardwick;
“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.
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Lol at thinking our very last draftee (in rookie draft and all the drafts) is what Dimma meant by cream :lol
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Mail is mixed messages from the Tigers
Want draft pick for Lids, not want player ( caddy )
Who knows what's going on
Cats were going to move on two players for a draft pick in return, then on trade the pick to the Tigers for Lids
Now that we want a player ???
Well to be fair, it needs to be mixed messages because the possibilities are mixed. No point speculating on what pick we may get because they don't have one to give. The only thing they have is players and they need to trade them away for picks to give us or just trade the player straight to us.
I get the feeling that Lids has left his run too late.
Why are we not going for picks. Brisbane have openly said they are up for trading pick 2 for more picks.
lETS SEE WEE GET SAY PICK 18 FOR DELEDIO WHY NOT BUNDLE UP 18 AND 6 ADD A PLAYER IF NEED BE AND TARGET PICK 2.
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Tigers, Cats hit stalemate over Deledio and Caddy
AFL.com.au
14 October 2016
Talks between Richmond and Geelong have hit a stalemate, with any move to lure midfielder Josh Caddy out of the Cattery now appearing unlikely.
The Cats have insisted a straight swap for Tiger Brett Deledio is unfair, and only a drastic change in talks between the clubs would see Caddy included in any trade.
The developments on Friday leave Deledio, who is understood to have cleared out his locker and told the Tigers he wants to leave, in an awkward position.
The midfielder's management made it clear early in the NAB AFL Trade Period that Geelong was his preferred club, but the Cats are unable to absorb his lucrative salary without shedding a quality player.
In the now remote scenario that Caddy made his way to Richmond, it is almost certain that Deledio would be required to take a pay cut to play at Geelong.
Caddy, who is holidaying overseas, remains comfortable to play on at Geelong after joining the club from Gold Coast at the end of 2012.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/trade-wrap-tigers-cats-hit-stalemate-over-caddy-and-deledio
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Prestia could still reunite with former teammate Josh Caddy, who the Tigers are targeting from Geelong in exchange for Brett Deledio.
Caddy recently purchased a property in Geelong, but is open to a move to Richmond.
Caddy and Prestia have remained close friends since they were drafted to the Suns together in 2010.
Caddy was secured at No.7 and Prestia two picks later.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-still-expected-to-land-at-richmond-despite-delay-over-proposed-pick-swap/news-story/0bfaf351d0ba724c93813fa15ff0a097
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Take this as fact from a father in law of one of the players - after mad monday the only two lockers which were cleaned out were Vickerys and Deledios.
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Take this as fact from a father in law of one of the players - after mad monday the only two lockers which were cleaned out were Vickerys and Deledios.
True. I was also told this a while ago.
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Only at RFC could a player of Deledios ability have trouble finding a new club,if he's cleaned out his locker HTF can we be struggling to get
a trade done?
These morons have 12 months to get their poo together for the trade period and can't even get 1 stuffing trade done with out being bent over.
The incompetence of our recruiting team knows no bounds.
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Only at RFC could a player of Deledios ability have trouble finding a new club,if he's cleaned out his locker HTF can we be struggling to get
a trade done?
These morons have 12 months to get their poo together for the trade period and can't even get 1 stuffing trade done with out being bent over.
The incompetence of our recruiting team knows no bounds.
Exactly how have they been "bent over"?
No deal has been done and the club are standing firm on what they want and what they are prepared to give
Cats want Deledio and pick 27 for Caddy.
We are saying no,
If the cats want Deledio then they give us what we want in this case a straight swap player for player. If not then the cats don't get the player they want
So how is that being bent over exactly?
Deal cant be done and Lids stays and we move in
Club is handling this the right way (so far).
And yes i would take Caddy in a straight swap for Lids, he clearly has shown doesn't want to be there. So let him go. helps us in salary cap space too ;D
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
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Should have traded this bloke last year.
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
In 5 minutes
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
In 5 minutes
Must have been tough to trade him out. I imagine the call went along the lines of:
H: Hi west coast, would you want our 5 time BnF winner AA premiership captain for peanuts?
W.C: .... *faint sound of someone jigging*....**clears throat**
Look that might be something we can do.
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Yeh, Lids is/was only arguably our best player.
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
In 5 minutes
In fact that deal has been in the pipeline for 12 according to Mitchell on SEN.
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Only at RFC could a player of Deledios ability have trouble finding a new club,if he's cleaned out his locker HTF can we be struggling to get
a trade done?
These morons have 12 months to get their poo together for the trade period and can't even get 1 stuffing trade done with out being bent over.
The incompetence of our recruiting team knows no bounds.
Exactly how have they been "bent over"?
No deal has been done and the club are standing firm on what they want and what they are prepared to give
Cats want Deledio and pick 27 for Caddy.
We are saying no,
If the cats want Deledio then they give us what we want in this case a straight swap player for player. If not then the cats don't get the player they want
So how is that being bent over exactly?
Deal cant be done and Lids stays and we move in
Club is handling this the right way (so far).
And yes i would take Caddy in a straight swap for Lids, he clearly has shown doesn't want to be there. So let him go. helps us in salary cap space too ;D
Firstly the Deledio trade isn't the only trade of interest ATM WP.
Secondly we have a history of poor trading- 2 x 2nd round picks for a bloke who every other club steered clear of is our most recent FWIW.
Whether or not Caddy is what we want/wanted,this club has known for awhile that Deledio would be moved on but here we are still trying to work out a trade for a bloke who just bought a house in Geelong.
12 months our team has had to prepare for trade time and knowing for quite some time that Prestia wants to head our way but still can't make a trade of any sort to help get the Prestia/Deledio deals signed off.
I dare say that the ONLY reason we're going for Caddy is because of 2 very recent acquisitions in Balme /Caracella, if not for them we probably would've already done this trade and had Motlop on our list,another
that clubs will steer clear of.
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Is it because richmind is such a tough club, that they can't negotiate Deledio with any other club ?
Little baby wants to go to Geelong so rfc does what the little baby wants. Lol
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Keep him and play him in the vfl all year.
Now That'S richmond!
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
and the net return for that trade for them was pick 88 or something absurd..
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Sorry but the club is just like a jellyfish but without the sting.
They might make some trades next week but who cares, the reality is we are just poo on every level.
Time to put these hard earned $$ into a winter holiday from now on to avoid their putrid performamces.
Im just over it, some how i knew we'd act like a rabble st trade time but was optimistic. Time to grow up
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Sorry but the club is just like a jellyfish but without the sting.
They might make some trades next week but who cares, the reality is we are just poo on every level.
Time to put these hard earned $$ into a winter holiday from now on to avoid their putrid performamces.
Im just over it, some how i knew we'd act like a rabble st trade time but was optimistic. Time to grow up
Getting your tanty in well before trade week is over. A+ For efficiency.
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
they actually traded their BnF winner & 2 picks for 3 picks
In 5 minutes
Different scenario
Hawks needed to dump salary. We don't need to do that
We want decent picks or decent players
Seriously, deal would be done if they give up Caddy.
Or another way deal would be done if we'd take Motlop off them.
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Sorry but the club is just like a jellyfish but without the sting.
They might make some trades next week but who cares, the reality is we are just poo on every level.
Time to put these hard earned $$ into a winter holiday from now on to avoid their putrid performamces.
Im just over it, some how i knew we'd act like a rabble st trade time but was optimistic. Time to grow up
So please tell me what should we have done by now?
Traded Lids for who or whwt, remembering he has to agree any trade.
And the Prestia one?
Just appears no matter what they do they will get bagged
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probably right, Willy and whose fault is that?
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Or another way deal would be done if we'd take Motlop off them.
FMD, the guys has issues- NOBODY wants him including Geelong.
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Sorry but the club is just like a jellyfish but without the sting.
They might make some trades next week but who cares, the reality is we are just poo on every level.
Time to put these hard earned $$ into a winter holiday from now on to avoid their putrid performamces.
Im just over it, some how i knew we'd act like a rabble st trade time but was optimistic. Time to grow up
Getting your tanty in well before trade week is over. A+ For efficiency.
Yep im entitled too and I will
Or would you just like to see how things pan out :shh
History shows we're rubbish, or are you one of those optimistic defenders that has forgotten the last 36 years?? :lol
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Or another way deal would be done if we'd take Motlop off them.
FMD, the guys has issues- NOBODY wants him including Geelong.
You are missing my point
You are saying we've doen nothing, been bent over because we haven't trade Lids
I am saying that if we took what Geelomg want us to take for lids and thats is Motlop then the deal would be done and BTW then you could say we've been bent over. Because that deal would be crap
We want a certain player if cats gave us that player this would be over.
Club should not buckle and stick to their guns. IMHESHO thats not being bent over that's doing the best deal
Get it
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probably right, Willy and whose fault is that?
Would think that not being in that position is a good thong
And BTW have look at the Hawks right now. Mitchell thing has worked but struth they've in free fall with the Lewis situation
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Or another way deal would be done if we'd take Motlop off them.
FMD, the guys has issues- NOBODY wants him including Geelong.
You are missing my point
You are saying we've doen nothing, been bent over because we haven't trade Lids
Im not missing the point you are and your bending others post to make your point.
I said we cant get 1 deal done NOT the lids deal.
I've explained that we are completely poo at trading and get bent over as recently as our last trade.
And had we not been made to touch our toes Willy old chap we would have pick 26 also at our disposal to help get something happening but we don't do we, why is that?
We are in this position because we've been bent over so far we can see where the sun don't shine!
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Hawks trade their B&F winner in 5 minutes for three picks.
Are u serious WP.
Alright sweet lets do Deledio and picks 64 and 82 for picks 56, 74, 92. Good result for Richmond :clapping
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I don't know how trade week will turn out but history shows we are well off the pace.
Free agency allows you to pick up top quality players for nix and yet over the last 3 years our return is Hampson for 32, Hunt, Townsend, Moore and Yarran for 19 ( or two second rounders)
We are actually better off not trading. #2 in Hampsons year could have picked up Nankervis (irony what?) Allir Allir or Ben Brown.
19 in Yarran's year could have picked up Dunkley or an extra second rounder this year would have been real handy.
Funnily enough we have the upper hand as Gold Coast really want pick 6 as it strengthens their ability to get the academy kids cheaper.
I'd suggest RFC would be aware of this and can wait them out. It's still likely they'll accept peanuts rather than go for the jugular.
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Ironic
That Dunkley spent at least 2 months training at Punt Rd
And then we didn't draft him
Must be good judges at Punt Rd
No idea I say and have said for years
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Ironic
That Dunkley spent at least 2 months training at Punt Rd
And then we didn't draft him
Must be good judges at Punt Rd
No idea I say and have said for years
Who do you prefer Rioli or Dunkley?
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
BINGO
Though I'd offer Ellis B first to see that will do it and then if not then throw in Lennon
Would use Lennon in another trade with another player to try an get a late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder
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B Ellis should've had some interest but perhaps thers not much interest in him or Lennon .
Agree those 2 should be put up with 6 for Prestia & 8.
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
I think most would say they walked out winners but I would do that in a heartbeat :clapping
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
I think most would say they walked out winners but I would do that in a heartbeat :clapping
Most people who are objective would say:-
Lennon is an unfulfilled dud with issues attitudinally
Bellis is a vanilla outside player who turns it over
Why do people who say we overrate our list overrate our list?
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Another one for you.Who would you prefer Heppell or Conca
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Another one for you.Who would you prefer Heppell or Conca
Can Conca take thymosin beta 4 plus other unnamed goodies to even it up?
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Can Heppel kick straight to the opposition to further even it up
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Received news lids to cats announced tomorrow. That's all i was told so i don't know who or what we will receive back.
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B.Ellis is staying
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B.Ellis is staying
Equality.
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B.Ellis is staying
That's a shame!
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B.Ellis is staying
Poor decision by the club if true
Extremely poor
Pathetic actually
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B.Ellis is staying
Poor decision by the club if true
Extremely poor
Pathetic actually
Hmm. Credit to you WP, you called for him to be traded last year - when his value was highest - and that would have been the correct move. Would have got a first rounder for him then.
Even if we could move him on now, a 2nd rounder would be overs. Shame we couldn't do a Pick 6 and Ellis for Prestia and pick 10 or something. :banghead
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B.Ellis is staying
Poor decision by the club if true
Extremely poor
Pathetic actually
Well he's still contracted, so the poor decision happened long before now...same with Shank - 2019 ffs......and we've further compounded this off-season with more idiotic, inexplicable & irresponsible list management...Hamspud, Grigg, Houli, Astbury. Griffiths.......with Conca still to come...
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Received news lids to cats announced tomorrow. That's all i was told so i don't know who or what we will receive back.
It's Caddy ;)
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Received news lids to cats announced tomorrow. That's all i was told so i don't know who or what we will receive back.
It's Caddy ;)
Just Caddy, or Caddy and some picks swapped?
Massive news if true :clapping :clapping
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Received news lids to cats announced tomorrow. That's all i was told so i don't know who or what we will receive back.
It's Caddy ;)
Just Caddy, or Caddy and some picks swapped?
Massive news if true :clapping :clapping
I pressed for further info but it was not forthcoming. I was told it will be announced tomorrow.
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Received news lids to cats announced tomorrow. That's all i was told so i don't know who or what we will receive back.
It's Caddy ;)
Just Caddy, or Caddy and some picks swapped?
Massive news if true :clapping :clapping
I pressed for further info but it was not forthcoming. I was told it will be announced tomorrow.
Great intel, will pass it onto my mates. Cheers mate :thumbsup
Edit: Just found this on BF
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/brett-deledio-watch-geelong-bound-rohcon-states-lids-may-be-rumored-to-be-interested-to-go-to-wbd.1145404/page-61
Not sure how to link to the exact post but its towards the bottom. ;D
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Straight swap Caddy for Lids is a win IMESHO
He doesn't want to be here anymore so let him go, if it doesn't cost a pick then it's a win
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
I think most would say they walked out winners but I would do that in a heartbeat :clapping
Most people who are objective would say:-
Lennon is an unfulfilled dud with issues attitudinally
Bellis is a vanilla outside player who turns it over
Why do people who say we overrate our list overrate our list?
Disagree
I think a lot would say
Lennon is a kid we don't know much about
Ellis is good he gets lots of the ball
There are a lot of nuffers out there :shh
Are you implying I'm overrating our list? Because on one hand I say "most people" which does not specifically mean I agree and on the other hand I say I'd do it in a heartbeat which means I obviously don't rate them as much as the others
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The Cats are also not advanced on a deal for Brett Deledio who could yet end up remaining at the Tigers.
Richmond has asked for Josh Caddy who said he was open to a move if Geelong wanted it, but that he was happy at the Cats.
Geelong is understood to want a second-round draft pick from Richmond, as well as Deledio, if they are to concede Caddy.
http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2016-jordan-lewis-and-hawthorn-in-stalemate-20161016-gs3eom.html
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Straight swap Caddy for Lids is a win IMESHO
He doesn't want to be here anymore so let him go, if it doesn't cost a pick then it's a win
Ditto
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I still think our pick 6 plus B Ellis and B Lennon for Prestia and GCS pick 8. They move up two rungs to get their desired academy pick and get two right age midfielders and we retain round 1 pick and get Prestia
I think most would say they walked out winners but I would do that in a heartbeat :clapping
Most people who are objective would say:-
Lennon is an unfulfilled dud with issues attitudinally
Bellis is a vanilla outside player who turns it over
Why do people who say we overrate our list overrate our list?
Disagree
I think a lot would say
Lennon is a kid we don't know much about
Ellis is good he gets lots of the ball
There are a lot of nuffers out there :shh
Are you implying I'm overrating our list? Because on one hand I say "most people" which does not specifically mean I agree and on the other hand I say I'd do it in a heartbeat which means I obviously don't rate them as much as the others
I'm not implying anything, I just cannot see how any club would see Lennon or Bellis as being anything more than most of us see by going most weeks.
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I'm not implying anything, I just cannot see how any club would see Lennon or Bellis as being anything more than most of us see by going most weeks.
Maybe you misinterpreted what I said. By most I meant the public and by they I meant GC :thumbsup
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I'm not implying anything, I just cannot see how any club would see Lennon or Bellis as being anything more than most of us see by going most weeks.
Maybe you misinterpreted what I said. By most I meant the public and by they I meant GC :thumbsup
All good, agree with general wazza - just look up footy wire and he averages 25 possessions so he's a gun. I just can see GC or any club being that under prepared to get sucked into his type of short comings
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Straight swap Caddy for Lids is a win IMESHO
He doesn't want to be here anymore so let him go, if it doesn't cost a pick then it's a win
I didn't believe this a week ago but I've swung around
Lewis is 30 and whilst he is slow, is only a year older than lids who is hampered by injury. Yet dees will get him for what pick 60. This is what we face next year if we hold him
A young player like Caddy who can tackle is a win, as Hardwick has ruined lids to the point he wants out.
Letting him go for Caddy is the best thing for this club. The question is will the cats do it?
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Straight swap Caddy for Lids is a win IMESHO
He doesn't want to be here anymore so let him go, if it doesn't cost a pick then it's a win
I didn't believe this a week ago but I've swung around
Lewis is 30 and whilst he is slow, is only a year older than lids who is hampered by injury. Yet dees will get him for what pick 60. This is what we face next year if we hold him
A young player like Caddy who can tackle is a win, as Hardwick has ruined lids to the point he wants out.
Letting him go for Caddy is the best thing for this club. The question is will the cats do it?
Do u think tardwick would realise he's the reason?
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I just read on twitter that if we had picks 22 (people suggesting will get that with prestia if we give up pick 6) & 27 then that would be enkught acadamey points for pick 8
Now i dont understand these Academy point calcs but i have to say that if those picks combined could get us back into the forst round then the prestia deal doesnt look so bad.
Point is anoyher reason why Caddy as a straight swap for Lids is the way tp go. Cats want pick 27, we need to keep it now more than every
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B.Ellis is staying
Poor decision by the club if true
Extremely poor
Pathetic actually
Hmm. Credit to you WP, you called for him to be traded last year - when his value was highest - and that would have been the correct move. Would have got a first rounder for him then.
Even if we could move him on now, a 2nd rounder would be overs. Shame we couldn't do a Pick 6 and Ellis for Prestia and pick 10 or something. :banghead
I knew BEllis was a dud in his second year.
And I hate him. :lol
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Bellis is kept for the same reason we have a female president.
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I just read on twitter that if we had picks 22 (people suggesting will get that with prestia if we give up pick 6) & 27 then that would be enkught acadamey points for pick 8
Now i dont understand these Academy point calcs but i have to say that if those picks combined could get us back into the forst round then the prestia deal doesnt look so bad.
Point is anoyher reason why Caddy as a straight swap for Lids is the way tp go. Cats want pick 27, we need to keep it now more than every
Too bad the academy points mean stuff all for us unless we wheel and deal with GWS to upgrade picks but they only have 2 (too high to get) or 15 (not worth giving up two picks in the twenties for)
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I'm not implying anything, I just cannot see how any club would see Lennon or Bellis as being anything more than most of us see by going most weeks.
Maybe you misinterpreted what I said. By most I meant the public and by they I meant GC :thumbsup
All good, agree with general wazza - just look up footy wire and he averages 25 possessions so he's a gun. I just can see GC or any club being that under prepared to get sucked into his type of short comings
Agree with that. Some might think it's coaching though and can get more out of him but usually once a squib always a squib
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If Lids clean out his locker at the end of the year like some are saying, why didn't he nominate a club of choice to lock them in a bit like we have with Prestia, Mitchell and Jagar did with Hawthorn and Hill did with Freeo.
Both clubs get plenty of time to sort out a trade and come trade week it's a simple deal.
I know why, at Tigerland we try and keep everyone happy- let's not upset the fans! Let's make out it's a last minute thing and hope the pain is short.
I know lying is the second language of the AFL but give us a bit of credit.
Most who have a clue know it's the right move for both parties.
But now what if it all falls apart?
Lids has to stay at a club he doesn't want to be at. Geekong know this and can play hard ball with us. Why wouldn't they? We are the ones left with our d1cs in our hands if a deal isn't struck.
Now I'm sure there are a couple of Richmond morons that will defend the club until they are blue in the face but again this has been handled badly by the RFC.
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If Lids clean out his locker at the end of the year like some are saying, why didn't he nominate a club of choice to lock them in a bit like we have with Prestia, Mitchell and Jagar did with Hawthorn and Hill did with Freeo.
Both clubs get plenty of time to sort out a trade and come trade week it's a simple deal.
I know why, at Tigerland we try and keep everyone happy- let's not upset the fans! Let's make out it's a last minute thing and hope the pain is short.
I know lying is the second language of the AFL but give us a bit of credit.
Most who have a clue know it's the right move for both parties.
But now what if it all falls apart?
Lids has to stay at a club he doesn't want to be at. Geekong know this and can play hard ball with us. Why wouldn't they? We are the ones left with our d1cs in our hands if a deal isn't struck.
Now I'm sure there are a couple of Richmond morons that will defend the club until they are blue in the face but again this has been handled badly by the RFC.
Couldnt disagree more mate. Ball appears to be firmly in our court. I dont think Lids will be upset if he stays, nay I think it may have been the club that approached him originally about the possibility of a trade.
Geelong know that if they want a quality player like Lids, they will have to cough up something more than steak knives. If the deal doesnt get done on our terms, he stays and we keep a quality player.
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If Lids clean out his locker at the end of the year like some are saying, why didn't he nominate a club of choice to lock them in a bit like we have with Prestia, Mitchell and Jagar did with Hawthorn and Hill did with Freeo.
Both clubs get plenty of time to sort out a trade and come trade week it's a simple deal.
I know why, at Tigerland we try and keep everyone happy- let's not upset the fans! Let's make out it's a last minute thing and hope the pain is short.
I know lying is the second language of the AFL but give us a bit of credit.
Most who have a clue know it's the right move for both parties.
But now what if it all falls apart?
Lids has to stay at a club he doesn't want to be at. Geekong know this and can play hard ball with us. Why wouldn't they? We are the ones left with our d1cs in our hands if a deal isn't struck.
Now I'm sure there are a couple of Richmond morons that will defend the club until they are blue in the face but again this has been handled badly by the RFC.
Couldnt disagree more mate. Ball appears to be firmly in our court. I dont think Lids will be upset if he stays, nay I think it may have been the club that approached him originally about the possibility of a trade.
Geelong know that if they want a quality player like Lids, they will have to cough up something more than steak knives. If the deal doesnt get done on our terms, he stays and we keep a quality player.
I'm actually wrapped for Lids for wanting to leave the abortion of a footy club. Our last 30 years has been pathetic and for Lids he has finally realised it's not going to happen for him at Tigerland. To the point he will play for less money for a chance at something we have been to stupid to achieve.
If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
I hope he gets to Geelong and wins a premiership as it would be nice to see.
Hopefully we get Caddy as a straight swap as I think it's a fair deal for both clubs.
Also must keep pick 6 no matter what.
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BT on the money
The bell is not in our court when you really think about it. They may well tell us to FO and get him in 12 months for nothing
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BT on the money
The bell is not in our court when you really think about it. They may well tell us to FO and get him in 12 months for nothing
Just our luck he will have a blinder of a year, get us to 9th, so we get another BEllis type, then leave to Geelong and we get a second rounder for him as compo because of his age or some sh/7.
Even better, they remove the compo for FA next year so we get f all.
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If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
When did he buy this house and how do you know that?
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Brett Deledio may be forced to stay at Richmond as Geelong struggle to clinch suitable trade deal
JAY CLARK
Herald Sun
October 17, 2016
RICHMOND star midfielder Brett Deledio could be forced to stay at Tigerland next year as the Cats struggle to clinch a trade deal for the veteran midfielder.
Deledio, 29, expressed a desire to be traded to Geelong but the Cats are reluctant to hand over onballer Josh Caddy in a straight swap.
It means Deledio may have to prepare to play the final year of his contract at Punt Rd next season before he becomes a free agent at the end of the year.
The Cats are happy to wait until the end of next season to claim the slick utility for nothing under free agency rules.
It is believed a deal for Carlton defender Zach Tuohy is more likely as the Cats look to inject more speed into their back half.
Carlton is keen on Geelong midfielder Darcy Lang, 20, in a deal that may also include one of Geelong’s future draft picks.
Deledio has played 243 AFL games but was limited to only 11 matches with some calf and Achilles problems this year.
His parents and brother, Matt, live on the Surf Coast.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-may-be-forced-to-stay-at-richmond-as-geelong-struggle-to-clinch-suitable-trade-deal/news-
story/ba503fc8fb62fcddf250c47828e59db2
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If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
When did he buy this house and how do you know that?
Maybe it was big tone's house!
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If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
When did he buy this house and how do you know that?
Maybe it was big tone's house!
Maybe the Cats bought him a house
There we go, that old trick gets us again
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If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
When did he buy this house and how do you know that?
Maybe it was big tone's house!
Maybe the Cats bought him a house
There we go, that old trick gets us again
The house Troy Taylor wanted?
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I'm actually wrapped for Lids for wanting to leave the abortion of a footy club. Our last 30 years has been pathetic and for Lids he has finally realised it's not going to happen for him at Tigerland. To the point he will play for less money for a chance at something we have been to stupid to achieve.
If you really think the ball is in our court than you are truely delusional. I know we don't have to trade him but what is the point of making a player like Lids who has given a hell of a lot to this club, who clearly wants out, stay.
He bought a house in Geelong for God's sake!! Can he been any more clear!!
I hope he gets to Geelong and wins a premiership as it would be nice to see.
Hopefully we get Caddy as a straight swap as I think it's a fair deal for both clubs.
Also must keep pick 6 no matter what.
So possible scenarios are:
A. We trade Deledio and pick 27 for Caddy and 38. That's a loss for us IMO. If that occurs, you were right and we buckled.
B. We trade Deledio for Caddy straight swap. Win for us.
C. We don't get the trade done and Lids stays. Win for us. He can walk to Geelong next year without needing a trade but A lot has to happen between now and next trade period. Would anyone REALLY have picked the Dogs to win the flag this time last year? If he does end up signed as a FA next year we would like receive an end of first round compensation pick even a first rounder (after our own pick). So really, the ball is firmly in our court. All this nonsense about him wanting to go is rubbish. He's open to a trade, he's doing the club a favour as much as we're doing him a favour.
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B. is a win for everyone really. Geebung get Lids, the bloke will be sublime in a good side. Caddy goes alright and is young but he isn't Lid's sak skin yet.
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If we are also looking at Nankervis pick 38 would achieve that. So in effect it would be Lids and 27 for Caddy and Nankervis.
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Something happened since last night?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-17/deledio-likely-to-stay-a-tiger
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B. is a win for everyone really. Geebung get Lids, the bloke will be sublime in a good side. Caddy goes alright and is young but he isn't Lid's sak skin yet.
After all, Owls are supposed to be wise right?
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id be doing what we can to move lids across to have someone play for us for a year and then walk away for nothing next year???? will his heart be in it there are a lot questions to be answered...
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Q. What's the best result for Richmond in regards to Deledio from here?
ASHLEY BROWNE: I think he plays on for the Tigers next year but even now, five months out, it shapes as a 'lame duck' season before he moves on to Geelong in 2018. If the Cats had any currency at the draft, they'd do the deal, but they have none.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk
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Tiger deal looks a long shot
NICK WADE
Geelong Advertiser
17 October 2016
GEELONG is almost resigned to missing out on Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio as the standoff between the Cats and Tigers lingers into a second week.
Deledio, 29, is looking increasingly likely to remain at the Tigers next season unless negotiations between the two clubs take an unexpected twist before Thursday’s deadline.
The Cats do not have high draft picks that would appeal to the Tigers and they are also unwilling to part with Josh Caddy in a direct swap.
“The main thing is it’s not suiting Richmond because they’re not willing to trade a contracted player,” Geelong recruiting manager Stephen Wells said obn Sunday night.
“(The trade) is as unlikely as it was at the start of the trade period. It’s no more likely to happen now than it was at the start of last week.”
Deledio becomes a free agent at the end of next season.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-cats-brett-deledio-trade-deal-looks-unlikely/news-story/36c866555037be0e0e43755f1c22f098
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Carlton want Cockatoo for Touhey....would actually prefer him from Geelong than Caddy - kid will be a gun...
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Rumour is Geelong can't afford Lids' full annual salary (similar to Selwood & Dangerfield's) and so if a trade is to be done, we would need to pay part of Lids' salary for 2017.
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Just our luck for Deledio to nominate a club whose first pick is 38....
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Why not Trade Lids to Geelong and Lennon to Carlton. With Caddy to us and pick 38 and Touhy to Geelong.
Pay $200,000 of Deledio's wage next year. We have to pay him if he stays.
we use 38 on Nankervis.
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Sounds like Discount Dan isn't going to get this one done. No surprise really.
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Sounds like Discount Dan isn't going to get this one done. No surprise really.
building up quite the resume is this dud.
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Like I sad days ago, he ain't going anywhere.
The club can't make ANYTHING happen.
stuffn useless, weak pricks.
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We should get special dispensation from the AFL to force opposition clubs to do trades that we want
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Gee - I thought trade period finished on Thursday at 2pm.
The way you guys carry on its all over.
If they stuff it up after that then fair enough.
But you guys are way OTT with the Chicken Little hysteria.
With 3 days to go.....
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Gee - I thought trade period finished on Thursday at 2pm.
The way you guys carry on its all over.
If they stuff it up after that then fair enough.
But you guys are way OTT with the Chicken Little hysteria.
With 3 days to go.....
Yep heaps of time left. Dan and Blair can press the snooze button a few more times
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Gee - I thought trade period finished on Thursday at 2pm.
The way you guys carry on its all over.
If they stuff it up after that then fair enough.
But you guys are way OTT with the Chicken Little hysteria.
With 3 days to go.....
this is a moaning, whinging and whining forum sir
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Gee - I thought trade period finished on Thursday at 2pm.
The way you guys carry on its all over.
If they stuff it up after that then fair enough.
But you guys are way OTT with the Chicken Little hysteria.
With 3 days to go.....
If we only spoke about facts this forum wouldn,'t exist, but you are correct
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I thought it was being announced today?
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Mmmmm this was the info i received last night but it doesn't look likely at this stage.
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We should get special dispensation from the AFL to force opposition clubs to do trades that we want
:lol
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Mmmmm this was the info i received last night but it doesn't look likely at this stage.
Don't panic, There's still 5 hours and 15 minutes to go :thumbsup
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Anthony Hudson on SEN just before still reckons the Lids trade will be done in the end.
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Rumour is Geelong can't afford Lids' full annual salary (similar to Selwood & Dangerfield's) and so if a trade is to be done, we would need to pay part of Lids' salary for 2017.
Or Lids could take a paycut and restructure his current deal.
I'd agree to paying some of his salary for next season just move him on and hold onto pick 27
Gee - I thought trade period finished on Thursday at 2pm.
The way you guys carry on its all over.
If they stuff it up after that then fair enough.
But you guys are way OTT with the Chicken Little hysteria.
With 3 days to go.....
:clapping
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Too bad the academy points mean stuff all for us unless we wheel and deal with GWS to upgrade picks but they only have 2 (too high to get) or 15 (not worth giving up two picks in the twenties for)
There are other clubs who have academies and other clubs that want the points
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On the contrary
I want more blokes traded out but until these 2 deals are done nothing else will happen
Sadly
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Wasn't "DanTheMan" a former player manager? Wasn't all the talk that because he knows the ins & outs of player contract negotiations he'd be able to easily weave his magic and get deals done more effectively & efficiently than most in the AFL?
What has this dud done for us since he's been at the club besides resigning dud players that no one wants & negotiating the Yarran deal last year?
Is he just another one of Gale's mates that needed a job?
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Cats waiting on Richmond to get pick 30 from goldcoast. Deal will be deledio and 30 for caddy and 42.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeGuru
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So it's pick 6 and deledio for Prestia, Caddy and 42. Could have done better but I'm not too unhappy honestly. Lids is worth nothing to us in his current health and pick 6 is only potential. Prestia and caddy are both good players.
Go to draft with 27 our first pick. Shame about this regardless of the risks...
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That's embarrassing first pick at 27 considering our bad year and list at the moment this club never learns.
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Could easily get one a bit earlier if we were willing to move players like Ellis and Edwards
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Pretty sure it doesn't matter what the deal (this one or any others) a lot of people wont be happy
Could easily get one a bit earlier if we were willing to move players like Ellis and Edwards
So true but I suppose clubs have to want them.... and in the case of both they have to agree
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Yeah like they offered up Edwards or Bellis
Both players rated highly by our club and would never be put up as trade
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If Lids is happy to look at Dogs or Cats for a better chance at a flag etc.
Why isn't GWS an option, they have picks to burn and its what we want. Surely Lids can be persuaded to go to GWS where he's almost guaranteed a flag in his last 3-4 years. Or is he happy being safe at the Cats in Melbourne and just making up numbers in finals.
GWS don't need picks, they need a Lids. Go to GWS Brett for everyones sake.
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Would be a good fit
Would of been handy last 15 m of te prelim
Level or two above Stevie j
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He's on too much coin.
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Think it is more to do with Lids having kids now and being near family and not isolated interstate is the priority in life.
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He's on too much coin.
Gws cap space is like quantum physics.
Normal laws do not apply
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Think it is more to do with Lids having kids now and being near family and not isolated interstate is the priority in life.
And fair enough too methinks.
:thumbsup
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Because no amount of money is worth living in Shytney....
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight said Lids is likely now to stay.
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Pretty sure it doesn't matter what the deal (this one or any others) a lot of people wont be happy
Could easily get one a bit earlier if we were willing to move players like Ellis and Edwards
So true but I suppose clubs have to want them.... and in the case of both they have to agree
People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
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Why does he want to go?
Cause the clubs a shambles?
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
To summarise,
The club consists of players that no other club will touch in a trade because they're rubbush and former number one picks that don't want to play for the club.
Lol.
and u reckon why can can come up with a win... :snidegrin
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STUFF GEELONG!
Take Bulldogs' Pick 18!
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
finals football in 2017?
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If god watches over rance and dusty
Hopefully if we lose lids we are properly reimbursed as it's looks ok currently on paper
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
finals football in 2017?
Wow, wouldn't some here have to backpeddle. Personally I would love that., I mean who on here wouldn't like to see the Tigers back in the finals next year. Lol
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
finals football in 2017?
Wow, wouldn't some here have to backpeddle. Personally I would love that., I mean who on here wouldn't like to see the Tigers back in the finals next year. Lol
They made finals 3/4 last years
It's hardly impossible.
Honourable elimination finals loses the dream
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Will at least make a nice change from the dishonourable finals losses...
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
finals football in 2017?
Wow, wouldn't some here have to backpeddle. Personally I would love that., I mean who on here wouldn't like to see the Tigers back in the finals next year. Lol
Are we a better option to break into the top 8 than st kilda or Melbourne? What if the GC get their act together?
Who are we going to kick out?
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Hawthorn
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Perfect. We can package the pick 24 from GC with deledio to get caddy. Dan and Blair have it all planned out fellas. Don't stress.
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lol igggzakly
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Prestia is officially a tiger
Keep lids
Mids of martin. Cotchin. Deledio. Prestia.
Not bad
:shh
finals football in 2017?
Wow, wouldn't some here have to backpeddle. Personally I would love that., I mean who on here wouldn't like to see the Tigers back in the finals next year. Lol
Are we a better option to break into the top 8 than st kilda or Melbourne? What if the GC get their act together?
Who are we going to kick out?
Many teams make finals it's possible - Rance. And martin are pretty much good enough to carry us pretty far, If the Dimma to dud selection ratio is not heinous.
Saints and dees shaping up pretty well however. Everyone has gone past is pretty much IMHO from a Long term view ... :). Other clubs seem to have plans
List management is horrendous. Lids can see the light
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
Caddy is slightly better than Conca. He is slow and lacks endurance. Will be another list clogged in a few years bank on it
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
Caddy is slightly better than Conca. He is slow and lacks endurance. Will be another list clogged in a few years bank on it
Ah crap
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
Caddy is slightly better than Conca. He is slow and lacks endurance. Will be another list clogged in a few years bank on it
Caddy is better than that mate.
I'd take Caddy over Prestia any day.
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Caddy total Brownlow votes = 8
Prestia got 13 in 2014 alone.
The computer says Caddy plodder, Prestia good and Big Tone wrong
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
Caddy is slightly better than Conca. He is slow and lacks endurance. Will be another list clogged in a few years bank on it
Caddy is better than that mate.
I'd take Caddy over Prestia any day.
You'd be about the only one. Caddy and Prestia both had promising early years. A few years later and Prestia was VC behind Gaz and Caddy had moved to Geel and averaged barely 20 pos per game in a very good midfield.
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People aren't happy with our deals because they suck.
So you think Lids (who wants to go) and a straight swap for Caddy isn't a good deal for us?
or would you rather the club cave into geelong's demand of Lids + pick 27 for Caddy and say that's a better deal?
Or perhaps you want them to do a Hawthorn'esq deal for Lids? Pick 50 odd?
Caddy for Lids is a win for us.
Nothing wrong with that deal it doesn't suck.
Simple facts are (1) if Geelong want him it's on our terms not their's. If they wont' accept a fair a reasonable trade then Lids comes back, re stocks his locker and we move on
And (2) we can throw up the likes of Edwards, Ellis B, Lennon, etc but if no one wants them or they don't agree to a trade then they don't go
Geelong not prepared to do that deal is not the Club's fault
Caddy is slightly better than Conca. He is slow and lacks endurance. Will be another list clogged in a few years bank on it
Caddy is better than that mate.
I'd take Caddy over Prestia any day.
:gobdrop
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Who's your Caddy?
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Presta>Caddy >Conca
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Who's your Caddy?
Very clever, did you think that one up?
:thumbsup
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Prestia>Caddy>>>>>Conca
EFA :thumbsup:
And FWIW on Brownlow votes:
Prestia - 23 from 95 games @ 0.24/game
Caddy - 8 from 95 games @ 0.09/game
Conca - 3 from 80 @ 0.04/game
All debuted the same year too...
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WGAF brownlow votes
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Right GWS give us that mid teen pick for lids
Cats FO
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
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Right GWS give us that mid teen pick for lids
Cats FO
This was the one I felt was the right fit for both Lids and GWS. If it happens, we will get better compensation than what the cats can offer us and Lids gets a good chance to experience ultimate success.
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Prestia>Caddy>>>>>Conca
EFA :thumbsup:
And FWIW on Brownlow votes:
Prestia - 23 from 95 games @ 0.24/game
Caddy - 8 from 95 games @ 0.09/game
Conca - 3 from 80 @ 0.04/game
All debuted the same year too...
Yep. Im pickin up what you're putting down :thumbsup
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
What picks do GWS have to offer?
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It's on
Forza lids
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
What picks do GWS have to offer?
Youd get a quicker answer if you asked "which picks don't GWS have to offer?"
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He will win a flag there, either in the NEAFL or the AFL.
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Or 3
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At least we might get a better deal from GWS out of this maybe ask for merchbank or tomilson..
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
What picks do GWS have to offer?
Youd get a quicker answer if you asked "which picks don't GWS have to offer?"
reckon that deal would be better for the tigers then dealing with geelong
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IIRC I think they have pick 13 and 15
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Stuff Geelong
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Get a couple .2nd / 3rd year players :shh
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I'd take 15 and run with it just to get it done. That's 15, 27 and whatever GC's is for Prestia (22 or something?). We can go forward with that, 44 for Nank if that's in fact coming our way. Not too shabby. Just need to work on getting back into the second next year. Can be done.
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LOL GAGF'd Geelong. Keep your plodder Caddy!
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They have pick 13 and 15 to offer i think
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This was my initial preferred destination for Lids.
Great young team, high probability of premiership success, and lots of currency to come back our way.
Would have offered Deledio + ?pick 27? for Tomlinson and Marchbank, but with Steele and WHE also departing there's so much we could have done here.
In fact we could have even gone as far as pick 6 + Deledio for all four of those players or more and I'd have been happy. Would address our midfield and KPP depth immediately and within the perfect age brackets too.
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The story may be pick 13 to us, Lids to GWS and Marchbank to Carlton (assuming the Gibb trade gets done).
We're the losers out of that one IMO.
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The story may be pick 13 to us, Lids to GWS and Marchbank to Carlton (assuming the Gibb trade gets done).
We're the losers out of that one IMO.
Caleb Marchbank
Pick 6
19 yrs old
193 key defender
Get him for fs
Caleb Marchbank and Weitering will kick ass :P
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This was my initial preferred destination for Lids.
Great young team, high probability of premiership success, and lots of currency to come back our way.
Would have offered Deledio + ?pick 27? for Tomlinson and Marchbank, but with Steele and WHE also departing there's so much we could have done here.
In fact we could have even gone as far as pick 6 + Deledio for all four of those players or more and I'd have been happy. Would address our midfield and KPP depth immediately and within the perfect age brackets too.
Aye tis. A Shame the club are stupid
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National 1 4 Jarrod Pickett
National 1 6 Caleb Marchbank
National 1 7 Paul Ahern
National 2 23 Patrick McKenna
National 2 24 Jack Steele
National 1 7 Jacob Hopper
National 1 13 Matthew Kennedy
National 1 16 Harrison Himmelberg
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
It's not that bad he'll be right
Ciao lids
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
It's not that bad he'll be right
Ciao lids
Surprised we didn't offer Houli to GWS given the demographic up there (although maybe we did?).
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The story may be pick 13 to us, Lids to GWS and Marchbank to Carlton (assuming the Gibb trade gets done).
We're the losers out of that one IMO.
What if we then send 13 to GC for Prestia and keep #6?
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The story may be pick 13 to us, Lids to GWS and Marchbank to Carlton (assuming the Gibb trade gets done).
We're the losers out of that one IMO.
What if we then send 13 to GC for Prestia and keep #6?
Lids for Prestia.
Would do.
However if we trade with GWS we should get players. They have so much unused talent up there...
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
It's not that bad he'll be right
Ciao lids
Surprised we didn't offer Houli to GWS given the demographic up there (although maybe we did?).
Don't think your allowed to say that :shh
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Can we get the caddy flog out of title pls O great mods
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
Have you been to Bankstown?
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Yeah Syrians everywhere
Was like wtf
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
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Is 6 still technically ours?
People kept saying "officially" last night hence I don't know
But if they are still negotiating pick 49 going to RFC it cannot be finalised yet
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
Please please please please..... :pray
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:rollin
Let the fun begin
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
Prestia
AND
omera
would be good
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
Prestia
AND
omera
would be good
Yes & what will they do at Tigerland. They do nothing at Gold Coast Suns & they are not playing finals :snidegrin
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Rance and march bank ....
*faints*
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Rance and march bank ....
*faints*
:lol
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Yeah tell Geelong to GOGF. As long as he doesn't go there I will be happy.
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Yeah tell Geelong to GOGF. As long as he doesn't go there I will be happy.
Cocka and a top 20 pick or gtfo
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Rance and march bank ....
*faints*
..even Aiden Corr as steak knives would be handy.....
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
Prestia
AND
omera
would be good
Yes & what will they do at Tigerland. They do nothing at Gold Coast Suns & they are not playing finals :snidegrin
They do nothing because they've been mostly sitting in the grandstand over the past two years.
Giving up Lids and a first and second pick for two injury-prone players would be crazy.
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Brett Anderson on SEN just before initially said Deledio is likely to stay at Richmond (i.e. not going to Geelong) but then added a third club will need to get involved and Lids could now be mixed in with the Marchbank, Gibbs and GWS trades.
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How many games has Lids played vs Prestia?
Effectively it would be:
Out: Pick 6, Lids and Vickery
In: Prestia and OMeara
If we hold onto Lids he'll leave next year in FA for nothing.
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
Prestia
AND
omera
would be good
Yes & what will they do at Tigerland. They do nothing at Gold Coast Suns & they are not playing finals :snidegrin
They do nothing because they've been mostly sitting in the grandstand over the past two years.
Giving up Lids and a first and second pick for two injury-prone players would be crazy.
What l been saying all along these players are not worth any 1st round pick. The talent & long term benefit is in the draft for Richmond.
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How many games has Lids played vs Prestia?
Effectively it would be:
Out: Pick 6, Lids and Vickery
In: Prestia and OMeara
If we hold onto Lids he'll leave next year in FA for nothing.
lMO Deledio 2017 season will be his last
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Tm
The young players on gws list are pretty good
Lots of potential long term good to snag a couple
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Keep dreaming fellas, we won't be getting both :lol
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Keep dreaming fellas, we won't be getting both :lol
We will get something for lids ...
Prestia sound doneish for 6
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Lids for Pick 15.
Pick 6, 15 and 26 for Prestia and OMeara?
know wouldn't that stir the pot balme working magic maybe
Prestia
AND
omera
would be good
Yes & what will they do at Tigerland. They do nothing at Gold Coast Suns & they are not playing finals :snidegrin
They do nothing because they've been mostly sitting in the grandstand over the past two years.
Giving up Lids and a first and second pick for two injury-prone players would be crazy.
Sadly Prestia -> 6 looks done (??)
Tbf there are not many 22 yoa former pick 1. Jäger arguably lots of upside.
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Talk is gws waiting for Carlton to get pick 13 for Gibbs then they receive that for march bank then give it to us for Lids. I would hold on Prestia then give that pick 13 to GC for Prestia and pick 6
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Tm
The young players on gws list are pretty good
Lots of potential long term good to snag a couple
l'm not disputing the young GWS players are good. We know that from their performances & that is even more reason for RFC to go into the draft holding that #6 pick. There are some fantastic own ball winners in there with great kicking skills like Ben Ainsworth who l coached from day dot & have watched his whole career. He was playing senior football at a very young age & took all his chances given to him. Gippsland Power & Casey Scorpions player & TAC Championships. There are many others who are great youngsters. These players are AFL ready & can fit into any side in many positions not just the ones they play in. 10 year players compared to burnt out players l know what l be wanting if l was the list manager
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Talk is gws waiting for Carlton to get pick 13 for Gibbs then they receive that for march bank then give it to us for Lids. I would hold on Prestia then give that pick 13 to GC for Prestia and pick 6
Did you mean pick 13 to GC for Prestia instead of pick 6, TM?
Effectively, us swapping Lids for Prestia.
Adel -> Gibbs (Carl)
Carl -> Marchbank (GWS) + Charlie Cameron (Adel)
GWS -> Deledio (Rich)
Rich -> Prestia (GC)
GC -> Pick 13 (Adel)
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nothing will happen we will have player's who want out like lennon and lids play for us for a year and walk away next year for nothing... lids GWS should be able to give us something worthwild in this swap
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The story may be pick 13 to us, Lids to GWS and Marchbank to Carlton (assuming the Gibb trade gets done).
We're the losers out of that one IMO.
Pick 13 for Deledio would be a good result IMO
Can't see 13 getting us Prestia (even though it's more his value) considering GC won't even take 6 on its own. 13 and next years 2nd rounder would be a pretty good result IMO
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agreed yeahright
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Another club moves into the race for Tigers gun Brett Deledio
By Michael Oxford
Published on Oct. 18, 2016
GWS have reportedly made a play for Richmond midfielder Brett Deledio on the penultimate day of the AFL trade period.
The Giants are keen to bolster their squad with more experience after their narrow preliminary final loss to eventual premiers the Western Bulldogs, according to AFL.com.au's Damien Barrett.
Deledio is open to a move away from Tigerland, with Geelong also interested in acquiring the 29-year-old.
The Cats are missing the currency to snare Deledio after their 2015 move for Patrick Dangerfield, but the Giants have picks 2 and 15 and are also likely to acquire either 5 or 13 from Carlton for Caleb Marchbank.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/another-club-moves-into-the-race-for-richmond-tigers-gun-brett-deledio-gws-giants-geelong/lfs0m6zlmrgl13aanolvlgiex
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
It's not that bad he'll be right
Ciao lids
Surprised we didn't offer Houli to GWS given the demographic up there (although maybe we did?).
Should we send all our Anglos to Brisbane too?
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From Mark Stevens twitter
Josh Caddy to Tigers. Jungle drums now beating very loudly, despite assumptions he'd stay a Cat. @7NewsMelbourne
:rollin
It's getting funneir now
Meltdown time :lol
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Why does no one like us
Lids
Lennon
Yarren
My guess cause Dimma and friends are morons.
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Oh no
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More gold
Double meltdown time
From STeveo's twiiter a few minutes ago
Murmurs that Tigers' pick 27 involved in Caddy deal ... If that pick alone, a bargain. @7NewsMelbourne
:rollin
Loving this
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Yeah the same Mark Stevens that said Lewis was staying at Hawthorn about an hour before he was traded to Melbourne....
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
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Yep, SEN saying Giants now into Lids.
Yeah but would Lids move up there with his family?
So much talent there. Tomlinson and Marchbank MUST be targeted. Lids + pick 27 for both.
People carrying on likes it's Syria.
It's not that bad he'll be right
Ciao lids
Surprised we didn't offer Houli to GWS given the demographic up there (although maybe we did?).
Should we send all our Anglos to Brisbane too?
Nope.
Just saying that Houli is a cultural ambassador for the AFL and prominent Muslim figure. Would have thought the AFL would even pay him to do ambassadorial work in that area as an extra incentive.
Nothing wrong with saying that - horses for courses :)
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
Yep....
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
If that happens, cue the pitch forks and light the torches
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
Yep....
Picks 13 & 27 for Caddy and Nakia Cockatoo?
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nah...tyrone's pick to cats
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Deledio has arrived at Sydney airport. Meeting with GWS officials and having a lookbat the facilities.
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Deledio has arrived at Sydney airport. Meeting with GWS officials and having a lookbat the facilities.
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
Lids + pick 27 for Tomlinson and Marchbank!
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I hope Lids joins GWS, i hate geelong and would rather see Lids enjoy success at a newer club like GWS.
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Deledio has arrived at Sydney airport. Meeting with GWS officials and having a lookbat the facilities.
He better like them facilities
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I hope Lids joins GWS, i hate geelong and would rather see Lids enjoy success at a newer club like GWS.
YEP I HEAR YAH NOTHING WORSE THEN GOING TO GEELONG BE LIKE GOING TO COLLINGWOOD. HAPPY TO GO TO GWS
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nah...tyrone's pick to cats
Yep
Caddy for pick 27
Seems Geelong’s salary cap pressure is worse than thought
They have to offload
And Caddy is the player :rollin
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nah...tyrone's pick to cats
Yep
Caddy for pick 27
Seems Geelong’s salary cap pressure is worse than thought
They have to offload
And Caddy is the player :rollin
If that happens, that's very very good work by the club
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nah...tyrone's pick to cats
Yep
Caddy for pick 27
Seems Geelong’s salary cap pressure is worse than thought
They have to offload
And Caddy is the player :rollin
If that happens, that's very very good work by the club
Yep twitter is all a flutter about
First it was Steveo
Now all of em have jumped on it :lol
Hence why Lids to Gws is now on the cards.
Great chance we get back in 1st round around pick 13 they're saying :clapping
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10 -15 Griffin Logue territory.... :shh
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So we could end up nailing this trade period?
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Caddy for pick 24 would be insanely good.
Effectively Caddy and Prestia for 6 & next years 2nd rounder.
:clapping
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see boys the tigers had it all under control if it pans out that way :lol :lol :lol :lol
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So we could end up nailing this trade period?
If we get caddy for that and if we get nankervis on the cheap and if we get the first rounder for Lids then yep I reckon we've nailed it
Lots of ifs to get through
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
If that happens, cue the pitch forks and light the torches
I'll even join you if they were stupid enough to do that
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Apparently Footscray are back in the picture.....
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If Lids goes to Gws and we get 13 watch the duds pass it on for Caddy.
If that happens, cue the pitch forks and light the torches
I'll even join you if they were stupid enough to do that
Alright.....but you have to do exactly as i say.
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Apparently Footscray are back in the picture.....
Dan Richardson reckons its only GWS now.
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We need to get this deal done. Best for all parties. stuffn make it happen Dan.
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If we get Caddy for pick 24 I would be trying to trade Lids and pick 27 to GWS for Marchbank and Tomlinson.
Pick 43 to Syd for Nankervis.
So we grab Prestia, Caddy, Tomlinson, Marchbank and Nankervis for Deledio, pick 6, Vickery, and 2017 2nd rounder.
Very worth it.
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Some bloke on SEN said that Devon Smith wants out and would leave next year anyway. Surely we can work something out.
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Yes pls
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Some bloke on SEN said that Devon Smith wants out and would leave next year anyway. Surely we can work something out.
that was diocletian
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Wasn't me - was Jonah Vark.....
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SEN & Fox Footy both saying Deledio has nominated GWS....
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SEN & Fox Footy both saying Deledio has nominated GWS....
It's all coming together!
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I was always confident it would
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Just a thought,
Lids knew he didnt want to stay at RFC half way through this season because of hardwick so he has been getting himself right for next year and will come out like a new recruir wherever he goes to, but does 100% not want to play at RFC.
Any takers?
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How many clubs can a bloke nominate in one trade period?
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Just a thought,
Lids knew he didnt want to stay at RFC half way through this season because of hardwick so he has been getting himself right for next year and will come out like a new recruir wherever he goes to, but does 100% not want to play at RFC.
Any takers?
I posted earlier in the year about some mail I got from someone close to Lids that pretty much said that he was sick of Dimma and wanted out.
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Well he never actually officially nominated Geelong nor anyone else....
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Well he never actually officially nominated Geelong nor anyone else....
That's right. He was 'interested.'
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SEN & Fox Footy both saying Deledio has nominated GWS....
It's all coming together!
Yep in so many ways :thumbsup
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GONEEEEEE
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I think he wants a shot at finals. Sick of the usual RFC rubbish. I don't blame him he's had 10 years of this crap. The only thing that kept him was the finals 3 years running. If we'd failed to make 8th I reckon he would have gone 2 years ago or was it 3.
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he's goneski
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Just a thought,
Lids knew he didnt want to stay at RFC half way through this season because of hardwick so he has been getting himself right for next year and will come out like a new recruir wherever he goes to, but does 100% not want to play at RFC.
Any takers?
I posted earlier in the year about some mail I got from someone close to Lids that pretty much said that he was sick of Dimma and wanted out.
Pretty sad, hope he goes well but a fit lids is an amazing pick up for someone
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Lids has signed a 3-year deal with GWS. Now up to us and the Giants to get a trade done. Pick 15 to us according to Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news.
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Mark Stevens also said Lids met with Luke Beveridge this week. But Lids has decided to go to the Giants.
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Caddy and Prestia buffer losing him a fair bit ...
Good luck son may you win many flags thanks for te fine service
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Thanks for the service, champ.
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Hope he wins a flag and carves us up.
The only one had the balls to go. :cheers
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Loves the club & went with tweaked calves :snidegrin Your a champion Lids. Thanks for the great service. :clapping
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Laters sucker.
Stuff wanting him to win any flags - I want Richmond to win them
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Laters sucker.
Stuff wanting him to win any flags - I want Richmond to win them
Yeah, right.
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Hope he wins a flag and carves us up.
The only one had the balls to go. :cheers
I dont begrudge him for this reason. He was ruined by the coach and no wonder he wanted out.
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Throw in Lennon and get pick 8!
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Laters sucker.
Stuff wanting him to win any flags - I want Richmond to win them
LMAO
GWS so far ahead don't bother
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Rumours doggies back in for lids
Beveridge returned from holiday to meet with him
Forza lids
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More gold
Double meltdown time
From STeveo's twiiter a few minutes ago
Murmurs that Tigers' pick 27 involved in Caddy deal ... If that pick alone, a bargain. @7NewsMelbourne
:rollin
Loving this
If Caddy arrives via pick 27.
Then someone has played the cats.
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Talk now is that GWS will offer next year's first round pick not this year's.....
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nah...tyrone's pick to cats
Yep
Caddy for pick 27
Seems Geelong’s salary cap pressure is worse than thought
They have to offload
And Caddy is the player :rollin
They have personality dramas at the Cattery
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Just a thought,
Lids knew he didnt want to stay at RFC half way through this season because of hardwick so he has been getting himself right for next year and will come out like a new recruir wherever he goes to, but does 100% not want to play at RFC.
Any takers?
I posted earlier in the year about some mail I got from someone close to Lids that pretty much said that he was sick of Dimma and wanted out.
Might not be Damien :shh
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Just a thought,
Lids knew he didnt want to stay at RFC half way through this season because of hardwick so he has been getting himself right for next year and will come out like a new recruir wherever he goes to, but does 100% not want to play at RFC.
Any takers?
I posted earlier in the year about some mail I got from someone close to Lids that pretty much said that he was sick of Dimma and wanted out.
Might not be Damien :shh
Oooo please tell!
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Had a fight with grigg
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Talk now is that GWS will offer next year's first round pick not this year's.....
18 no thanks.
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Had a fight with grigg
Grigg, isnt he sponsored by Sidchrome?
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
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pay up pricks
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Talk now is that GWS will offer next year's first round pick not this year's.....
18 no thanks.
Why would GWS risk that? They already have great picks in 2 and 15 with 13 likely on the way. Doesnt make any sense to me.
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
Yeah I known it's just very rude
Motlop or caddy
27, lids and 800000$
GTFO Geelong
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
I can live with that as we only have about 5 players we should be paying anyway playing for us, but even saying that, we should be getting an even sweeter deal to compensate for that.
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
Ive heard we'll have to pay a large chunk of his salary for next season, hence why they are offering such a high pick.
The first round pick is in part payment for us paying his salary as well.
Now let's get them to throw in Hoskin-Elliot as steak knives to sweeten the deal :P
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
Ive heard we'll have to pay a large chunk of his salary for next season, hence why they are offering such a high pick.
The first round pick is in part payment for us paying his salary as well.
Now let's get them to throw in Hoskin-Elliot as steak knives as well :P
Rather Devon Smith than WHE
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Devon
Caddy
Prestia
Nankervis
In one trade period would be solid
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Major driver for Cats is they have salary cap problems
That's why they wanted to offload Motlop - salary
Now they need to offload players
Smedts to carlton and Caddy to tigers does that
We are helped by Prestia and Caddy being close mates
So how did the morons intend of paying deledios contract
Wanted us to pay most of it next season and pay cut season after
BTW we will likely being pay part of Lids salary at GWS next season
Ive heard we'll have to pay a large chunk of his salary for next season, hence why they are offering such a high pick.
The first round pick is in part payment for us paying his salary as well.
Now let's get them to throw in Hoskin-Elliot as steak knives as well :P
Rather Devon Smith than WHE
If we got Smith and a first round pick for Lids we could potentualy be charged with rape :o
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This is poo, go to a plastic club for a flag. Can't hold it against you lids but means Jack stuffing poo to me stuffing afl fool Competion, lost all its soul!
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Emma Quayle from the age who i rate extremely highly in the journo stakes
Is saying it will likely be a future 1st rounder
Whicj if that means next years draft, that's a win because they are saying next years is going to be a bumper draft. Two 1st rounders would be great result
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Deledio will be rapt to play for GWS....he should be able to get the signing of autographs, posing for pictures & meet & greets with their entire fan base out of the way after only the first couple of home matches.....
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Emma Quayle from the age who i rate extremely highly in the journo stakes
Is saying it will likely be a future 1st rounder
Whicj if that means next years draft, that's a win because they are saying next years is going to be a bumper draft. Two 1st rounders would be great result
Just doesn't sit comfortable with me that we only have 24/27 and not another pick until 1,365,821 this year.
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Emma Quayle from the age who i rate extremely highly in the journo stakes
Is saying it will likely be a future 1st rounder
Whicj if that means next years draft, that's a win because they are saying next years is going to be a bumper draft. Two 1st rounders would be great result
2 first rounders?
Come on
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Emma Quayle from the age who i rate extremely highly in the journo stakes
Is saying it will likely be a future 1st rounder
Whicj if that means next years draft, that's a win because they are saying next years is going to be a bumper draft. Two 1st rounders would be great result
2 first rounders?
Come on
What?
If GWS trade us a future 1st rounder for Lids it means we will have 2 first round picks in 2017
The one we get for our ladder position and then the one from GWS = 2 1st round picks
What part don't you get :huh
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Sorry I misunderstood Willy . Got it
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AFL website says GWS will trade us the pick they get from Carlton for Marchbank for Deledio.....
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AFL website says GWS will trade us the pick they get from Carlton for Marchbank for Deledio.....
And isn't that the pick they (Carlton) get for Gibbs? This could be real 11th hour stuff.
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AFL website says GWS will trade us the pick they get from Carlton for Marchbank for Deledio.....
And isn't that the pick they (Carlton) get for Gibbs? This could be real 11th hour stuff.
Heres to GWS accepting something pox from the blues knowing it gets fed to us at the last minute
Blues win again.....
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Might be pick 5....... :shh
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AFL website says GWS will trade us the pick they get from Carlton for Marchbank for Deledio.....
And isn't that the pick they (Carlton) get for Gibbs? This could be real 11th hour stuff.
Heres to GWS accepting something pox from the blues knowing it gets fed to us at the last minute
Blues win again.....
Explain to me how pick 13 is pox?
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We will be paying a large chunk of the salary as the Giants are nearly over their cap of 32million. :thumbsdown
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We still may get him back with a future first rounder
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Dear GWS,
Hand over your Pick 15 for Deledio and it is a deal!
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The Age is saying the pick traded back to us in exchange for Lids will be GWS's 2017 first rounder. Given the Giants are likely top 2 finishers next year then that would be a late first rounder.
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Giants grab Deledio
Michael Gleeson
The Age
20 October 2016
Richmond ... will send star veteran Brett Deledio to Greater Western Sydney for a future first-round pick on the final day of the trade period.
Hours after the Tigers secured Dion Prestia from Gold Coast, their vice-captain Deledio agreed to join the Giants on a three-year $1.5million deal.
Deledio flew to Sydney on Wednesday to tour the club and meet the coach, football staff and doctors. He was contracted to Richmond for next year on about $800,000.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2016-deledio-to-giants-as-tigers-move-on-caddy-20161019-gs62cu.html
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The Herald-Sun, though, is saying pick 15 for Lids.
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Brett Deledio announces GWS Giants as preferred destination as trade deadline looms
SAM EDMUND AND SAM LANDSBERGER
Herald Sun
October 20, 2016
BRETT Deledio has demanded a trade to Greater Western Sydney, despite an 11th hour contract offer from the Western Bulldogs.
The wantaway Richmond star was on Wednesday night agonising over the two clubs, with Geelong recruiting manager Stephen Wells declaring the Cats’ bursting salary cap had ruled it out of contention.
Sources close to Deledio said the relationship between he and Richmond had become untenable.
The All-Australian is desperate to put two years of nagging calf and Achilles problems behind him with a fresh start at a new club and was uncertain over his Punt Rd future beyond 2017.
Yet the Tigers will seek a first-round draft pick as compensation for a two-time best-and-fairest winner who has played 243 games in 12 seasons.
The Giants are armed with picks No.2 and 15 and will haggle for another early selection from Carlton for Caleb Marchbank.
The Blues could send Geelong’s future first-round pick to the Giants to seal Marchbank’s arrival, but GWS would still be able to land Deledio with this year’s pick 15.
The Bulldogs came hard for Deledio, completing medical examinations on the 29-year-old on Wednesday.
The premiers had arranged a medical with Deledio a few weeks ago, but pulled out when coach Luke Beveridge went cold on the idea. However, they were keen to add Deledio’s finishing class to a side tailor-made to his abilities.
Deledio was in Sydney on Tuesday for meetings with GWS coach Leon Cameron and head of football Wayne Campbell, a former teammate.
Two months ago he had laughed off talk of a move to the burgeoning Giants.
“I was watching ‘Dimma’ on On The Couch the other night and it come up about GWS and my wife only caught the end of it and she goes, ‘I don’t think I can move to GWS, I don’t know anyone up there, we’re going to have another child, I’m not going to have any support or anything like that’,” Deledio said.
But star Giant Stevie Johnson foreshadowed Deledio’s shock defection on Instagram.
On Sunday Johnson commented on Deledio’s post: “Deledio to Giants, heard it here first!! #talkedhimintoit”.
The boom trade means Giants’ coach Leon Cameron can slot Deledio and Johnson into the team which narrowly fell to the Western Bulldogs in the preliminary final.
The Giants have been installed favourites to win the premiership in just their sixth season.
Deledio will be the fourth No.1 pick on the Giants list, but will likely have the final year of his lucrative contract reworked to comply with the Giants 2017 salary cap. GWS may also demand Richmond pay some of his salary.
He will join fellow stars Johnson, Heath Shaw and Ryan Griffen in wanting to finish their careers at Spotless Stadium and will add further silk to a side blessed with transition power.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-announces-gws-giants-as-preferred-destination-as-trade-deadline-looms/news-story/3312dc68bdc1e9dad9d0e7a8f7afd00b
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"I've heard that WHE is involved in the Deledio trade as a Pie man please tell me that's not true."
https://twitter.com/billyP1969
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"I've heard that WHE is involved in the Deledio trade as a Pie man please tell me that's not true."
https://twitter.com/billyP1969
I hope it is and it is a bit of payback for Adam Treloar.
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The Herald-Sun, though, is saying pick 15 for Lids.
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Brett Deledio announces GWS Giants as preferred destination as trade deadline looms
SAM EDMUND AND SAM LANDSBERGER
Herald Sun
October 20, 2016
BRETT Deledio has demanded a trade to Greater Western Sydney, despite an 11th hour contract offer from the Western Bulldogs.
The wantaway Richmond star was on Wednesday night agonising over the two clubs, with Geelong recruiting manager Stephen Wells declaring the Cats’ bursting salary cap had ruled it out of contention.
Sources close to Deledio said the relationship between he and Richmond had become untenable.
The All-Australian is desperate to put two years of nagging calf and Achilles problems behind him with a fresh start at a new club and was uncertain over his Punt Rd future beyond 2017.
Yet the Tigers will seek a first-round draft pick as compensation for a two-time best-and-fairest winner who has played 243 games in 12 seasons.
The Giants are armed with picks No.2 and 15 and will haggle for another early selection from Carlton for Caleb Marchbank.
The Blues could send Geelong’s future first-round pick to the Giants to seal Marchbank’s arrival, but GWS would still be able to land Deledio with this year’s pick 15.
The Bulldogs came hard for Deledio, completing medical examinations on the 29-year-old on Wednesday.
The premiers had arranged a medical with Deledio a few weeks ago, but pulled out when coach Luke Beveridge went cold on the idea. However, they were keen to add Deledio’s finishing class to a side tailor-made to his abilities.
Deledio was in Sydney on Tuesday for meetings with GWS coach Leon Cameron and head of football Wayne Campbell, a former teammate.
Two months ago he had laughed off talk of a move to the burgeoning Giants.
“I was watching ‘Dimma’ on On The Couch the other night and it come up about GWS and my wife only caught the end of it and she goes, ‘I don’t think I can move to GWS, I don’t know anyone up there, we’re going to have another child, I’m not going to have any support or anything like that’,” Deledio said.
But star Giant Stevie Johnson foreshadowed Deledio’s shock defection on Instagram.
On Sunday Johnson commented on Deledio’s post: “Deledio to Giants, heard it here first!! #talkedhimintoit”.
The boom trade means Giants’ coach Leon Cameron can slot Deledio and Johnson into the team which narrowly fell to the Western Bulldogs in the preliminary final.
The Giants have been installed favourites to win the premiership in just their sixth season.
Deledio will be the fourth No.1 pick on the Giants list, but will likely have the final year of his lucrative contract reworked to comply with the Giants 2017 salary cap. GWS may also demand Richmond pay some of his salary.
He will join fellow stars Johnson, Heath Shaw and Ryan Griffen in wanting to finish their careers at Spotless Stadium and will add further silk to a side blessed with transition power.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-announces-gws-giants-as-preferred-destination-as-trade-deadline-looms/news-story/3312dc68bdc1e9dad9d0e7a8f7afd00b
Hmmmm..that doesn't look good for the club if true... does this suggest that Lids was pushed out???
Maybe just wants to taste a premiership ands almost guaranteed that at GWS. Knows he wont win one here. Unfortunately
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Sources close to Deledio said the relationship between he and Richmond had become untenable.....
Hmmmm..that doesn't look good for the club if true... does this suggest that Lids was pushed out???
Maybe just wants to taste a premiership ands almost guaranteed that at GWS. Knows he wont win one here. Unfortunately
What it shows is that in the last 4 weeks a lot of porkies have been told by both sides
End of the day he wants to go, let him go and we move on
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Sources close to Deledio said the relationship between he and Richmond had become untenable.....
Hmmmm..that doesn't look good for the club if true... does this suggest that Lids was pushed out???
Maybe just wants to taste a premiership ands almost guaranteed that at GWS. Knows he wont win one here. Unfortunately
What it shows is that in the last 4 weeks a lot of porkies have been told by both sides
End of the day he wants to go, let him go and we move on
Agreed.
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Sources close to Deledio said the relationship between he and Richmond had become untenable.....
Hmmmm..that doesn't look good for the club if true... does this suggest that Lids was pushed out???
Maybe just wants to taste a premiership ands almost guaranteed that at GWS. Knows he wont win one here. Unfortunately
What it shows is that in the last 4 weeks a lot of porkies have been told by both sides
End of the day he wants to go, let him go and we move on
Do you really expect lids to say to te media Dimma is a moron and I dislike him?
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Dimma seems to get criticised for being a 'fantastic bloke' on one hand then criticised for not being one on the other. It's easy to whack Dimma for Lids wanting to leave but maybe Lids is being a bit precious too? For all Lid's qualities he has been a part of the RFC problem for longer than anyone else.
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Disagree
Lids has never been "the problem"
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Dimma seems to get criticised for being a 'fantastic bloke' on one hand then criticised for not being one on the other. It's easy to whack Dimma for Lids wanting to leave but maybe Lids is being a bit precious too? For all Lid's qualities he has been a part of the RFC problem for longer than anyone else.
Well I never!
OER posters contradicting themselves? Preposterous!
Hypocrisy, manifest!
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Disagree
Lids has never been "the problem"
Failed to fire in finals regularly. Doesn't sign kids autographs (lol). Holds himself in great esteem and everyone else in passive contempt. It is almost like he was on this forum and posting under multiple names
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Disagree
Lids has never been "the problem"
You're allowed to, I know my point is a bit contentious. I did, however, say that Lids was a part of the problem as opposed to the problem.
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I don't think lids was part of the problem. Signed a 5 year deal with us when the expansion clubs were coming into play. Stuck with us the whole way through good and bad.. well through bad and bad honestly. Never tasted success, don't blame him at all for wanting to move on. Will always be loved by the Tiges as he was a great servant of the club. Sad to see him go. Wasn't a rough, tough, bash and crash kinda player but he's the kinda player who wins you games and that's something every club wants.
All that being said he still might not go.
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Disagree
Lids has never been "the problem"
Failed to fire in finals regularly. Doesn't sign kids autographs (lol). Holds himself in great esteem and everyone else in passive contempt. It is almost like he was on this forum and posting under multiple names
:lol
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Lids is a rolls royce player. No question. He has a sore back from carrying the side so much
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Emma Q now saying we are giving GWS a pick also along with Lids.
Just when I think they might get a trade rite they go and f*^+ it up!!!!!
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Emma Q now saying we are giving GWS a pick also along with Lids.
Just when I think they might get a trade rite they go and f*^+ it up!!!!!
maybe for an upgrade or a player....
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Emma Q now saying we are giving GWS a pick also along with Lids.
Just when I think they might get a trade rite they go and f*^+ it up!!!!!
Unless it's bellis then it's a win
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Dimma seems to get criticised for being a 'fantastic bloke' on one hand then criticised for not being one on the other. It's easy to whack Dimma for Lids wanting to leave but maybe Lids is being a bit precious too? For all Lid's qualities he has been a part of the RFC problem for longer than anyone else.
So it is Lids fault now?
How pathetic is this statement. " For all Lid's qualities he has been a part of the RFC problem for longer than anyone else"
He has been one of the most consistent performers for the last 12 years and you claim he is the problem.
That would have to win the bonehead statement of the year award.
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His major issue has been standing up in finals.
Has not played one good finals game IIRC.
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So if Lids goes for future first rounder and assuming Caddy comes in for 27 that means we hold picks 24, 64, 82 & 100 in what is a deep draft!!
We obviously don't rate this draft as much as others?? I was hoping for Griffen Logue at 15 (from GWS)
Outs Deledio, Vickery plus picks including 6 and next years second rounder
In Prestia, Nankervis, Caddy, First Round 2017
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His major issue has been standing up in finals.
Has not played one good finals game IIRC.
One of our best in the demolition port pulled on us. Played okay in the Carlton game if I remember correctly, nothing special though.
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His major issue has been standing up in finals.
Has not played one good finals game IIRC.
One of our best in the demolition port pulled on us. Played okay in the Carlton game if I remember correctly, nothing special though.
16 kicks
4 tackle
4 inside 50
Wasn't the worst vs Carlton
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So if Lids goes for future first rounder and assuming Caddy comes in for 27 that means we hold picks 24, 64, 82 & 100 in what is a deep draft!!
We obviously don't rate this draft as much as others?? I was hoping for Griffen Logue at 15 (from GWS)
Outs Deledio, Vickery plus picks including 6 and next years second rounder
In Prestia, Nankervis, Caddy, First Round 2017
We do rate the draft
They are just not very bright
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Lids for pick 15.
Or throw in WHE and we will take the 2017 first pick.
Or throw in Tomlinson and we'll throw in 24/27.
So many options and I reckon they won't go near any of them.
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Delidio and 24 for 15 and Devon Smith
27 for Caddy
15 for Rockliff
Prestia Caddy Smith Rockliff Nankervis
Locked and Loaded and ready to cream it up.
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Delidio and 24 for 15 and Devon Smith
27 for Caddy
15 for Rockliff
Prestia Caddy Smith Rockliff Nankervis
Locked and Loaded and ready to cream it up.
Like your idea.
Couple of issues though.
Geelong will want 24 for Caddy knowing that we have it.
Rockliff isn't leaving Brisbane and 15 is too cheap to get him out of there anyway.
Could try Lids + 27 to GWS for 15 + Smith if they'll get Smith go that cheap but I'd prefer Tomlinson personally.
24 to Geelong for Caddy.
15 + 62 for Rockliff still wouldn't be enough - would offer any of Lennon, Conca, B. Ellis or S. Edwards to sweeten the deal. Pick 62 is worth 100 odd points and effectively bumps the academy value of pick 15 to pick 13.
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Who whe?
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Who whe?
Will Hoskin Elliot
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Jeepers the praying mantis, we don't like the gym aye!
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So it is Lids fault now?
How pathetic is this statement. " For all Lid's qualities he has been a part of the RFC problem for longer than anyone else"
He has been one of the most consistent performers for the last 12 years and you claim he is the problem.
That would have to win the bonehead statement of the year award.
I did, however, say that Lids was a part of the problem as opposed to the problem.
I'm sure GR12 doesn't want to keep repeating himself
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Thanks YR. :thumbsup
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Nick Bowen reporting that Lids likely to be done for pick 15 now.
https://twitter.com/Nick_Bowen
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WHE is going to the the scumwood... They should just rename themselves the collingwood giants or the Giant '....s
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WHE is going to the the scumwood... They should just rename themselves the collingwood giants or the Giant '....s
Careful, don't do a bents!
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pricks? Oh you can say that
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Here we go.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/788922192712962048?lang=en
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Damo: I'm just being told that the Deledio deal to GWS will get done. There is an agreement it will get done
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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20 minutes :shh
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SEN just said the Deledio deal will go through. They are just waiting for the Gibbs deal to be done first.
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SOS holding us up, the Bluebagger flog....pretty sure we can ask for an extension though....
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From twitter:
BREAKING: Brett Deledio has been traded from Richmond to GWS.
https://twitter.com/AFLTrade
Deledio to GWS is done.
https://twitter.com/AFLtradetalk
Doesn't say what was traded.
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Hold onto your butts
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/788936729851940865?lang=en
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3aw and SEN saying it's done. Details to follow.
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From twitter:
BREAKING: Brett Deledio has been traded from Richmond to GWS.
https://twitter.com/AFLTrade
Deledio to GWS is done.
https://twitter.com/AFLtradetalk
Doesn't say what was traded.
Yay......and hope we screwed Carlscum's plans in the meantime.
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AFL are allowing Silvagni to continue trading after the deadline.
Standard.
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Still unconfirmed on the Lids trade.
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Gibbs deal didn't get done :lol
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Deledio got done to GWS.
Future 1st from Cats passed on along with GWS' future 3rd to Tigers
https://twitter.com/mickgleeson
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Deledio got done to GWS.
Future 1st from Cats passed on along with GWS' future 3rd to Tigers
https://twitter.com/mickgleeson
Hmm.... We got done there.
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So no first round pick for us this year :P.
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Bummed not having a first this year now.
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Deledio got done to GWS.
Future 1st from Cats passed on along with GWS' future 3rd to Tigers
https://twitter.com/mickgleeson
So did we get the Cats 2017 first round pick? Likely 15-18 assuming they finish top four.
And some poo change from GWS.
Shame we really should have gotten something we could use now, like pick 15 or Marchbank +/- Tomlinson etc.
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Steven Wells from Geelong saying on SEN that Richmond told Geelong 8 days ago that we wouldn't trade Deledio to them for what they were offering.
Also said Cats never offered Caddy as part of the now failed Deledio trade was his management & Richmond who suggested it.
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Not happy with this...we needed to get into the first round this year.
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I'm coming around a little.
Worst case scenario we get pick 18, which IS unders, but maybe not that much. If its a strong draft, as some are calling it, its not the worst result to have two first rounders next year (#fyfe :shh)
Best case scenario, Geelong have a shyte year and we get a really good pick in a good draft.
I'm shattered Lids has left, but we move on.
Overall a very strong trade period from us.
NB: Lids trade details are STILL not officially known.
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DELEDIO CONFIRMED
Richmond receive GWS's future first-round pick (originally from Geelong) & future third-round pick.
Giants get Deledio.
https://twitter.com/superfooty (Herald-Sun)
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I'm coming around a little.
Worst case scenario we get pick 18, which IS unders, but maybe not that much. If its a strong draft, as some are calling it, its not the worst result to have two first rounders next year (#fyfe :shh)
Best case scenario, Geelong have a shyte year and we get a really good pick in a good draft.
I'm shattered Lids has left, but we move on.
Overall a very strong trade period from us.
NB: Lids trade details have STILL not officially known.
Agreed. Cats first next year could be quite a good pick. I reckon they might slide.
First rounder this year vs next year is much of a muchness for me. Plus we got a third rounder as a sweetener.
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Good currency next year at least. Can trade one and still keep one.
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I'm coming around a little.
Worst case scenario we get pick 18, which IS unders, but maybe not that much. If its a strong draft, as some are calling it, its not the worst result to have two first rounders next year (#fyfe :shh)
Best case scenario, Geelong have a shyte year and we get a really good pick in a good draft.
I'm shattered Lids has left, but we move on.
Overall a very strong trade period from us.
NB: Lids trade details have STILL not officially known.
Agreed. Cats first next year could be quite a good pick. I reckon they might slide.
First rounder this year vs next year is much of a muchness for me. Plus we got a third rounder as a sweetener.
Remember, Geelong had a very easy run last year off the back of a mediocre 2015. I wouldn't have them as locks for top four next year. Especially with Adelaides and West Coasts looking really strong.
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Confirmation by GWS:
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2016-10-20/trade-deledio-a-giant
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So in a draft supposedly full of talent up to 30, even 40 ...we have one pick before 60... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
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Geelong finish 6th-8th and we get pick 10.
Plus we will finish low and get a pick around 4-8 and a second rounder 22-26.
Looking ok
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Next years draft is reportedly stronger than this years
So for mine would rather have two 1st rounders in 2017 than one this year and next
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yeah, dunno, seeing him a Giants jumper kinda bums me out. Ahh well, times have changed.
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I reckon we got done. Deledio is worth more.
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I reckon we got done. Deledio is worth more.
When you look at the fact that Hawthorn got a 3rd round pick for Lewis and Lids is out of contract at the end of next year I think we've done ok.
Let's hope Geelong have a large fall from grace and don't make the 8 next year :gotigers
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Should've at least got a half-decent player back as steak knives...
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I reckon we got done. Deledio is worth more.
Jordan Lewis go traded for basically nothing so I think we did alright.
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Interesting AFL trade radio and website reporting its GWS first rounder next year. Would like to know what it actually is..
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I reckon we got done. Deledio is worth more.
Not at his age and with his injuries he ain't.
Fair deal.
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Just hope Willy Rioli's still on the board at 62 or whatever our second pick is now...
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2 picks in top 10/12 next year in a draft talent laden with KPP's - yeah I'm happy with that. Very happy
Geelong won't get near top 4 next year - look at their outs and look at what's still there at the wrong end of 30
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Where did GWS get Cats' first next year from?
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Where did GWS get Cats' first next year from?
Marchbank deal.
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2 picks in top 10/12 next year in a draft talent laden with KPP's - yeah I'm happy with that. Very happy
Geelong won't get near top 4 next year - look at their outs and look at what's still there at the wrong end of 30
They will have a tough draw too.
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Deledio got done to GWS.
Future 1st from Cats passed on along with GWS' future 3rd to Tigers
https://twitter.com/mickgleeson
Hmm.... We got done there.
If the Cats team (Selwood and Dangerfield) is ravaged by injury, it might be ok....
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So the worse Geelong do the better for us yeah?
And GWS 3rd round what would that be?
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I'd be selecting Jacob "The Bodyguard" Townsend for our match/es v Geelong next year and giving him a couple of very specific tasks.... :shh
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2 picks in top 10/12 next year in a draft talent laden with KPP's - yeah I'm happy with that. Very happy
Geelong won't get near top 4 next year - look at their outs and look at what's still there at the wrong end of 30
The problem Tony is that this year is laden with the best crop of mid's since the Hodge/Judd superdraft.
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2 picks in top 10/12 next year in a draft talent laden with KPP's - yeah I'm happy with that. Very happy
Geelong won't get near top 4 next year - look at their outs and look at what's still there at the wrong end of 30
The problem Tony is that this year is laden with the best crop of mid's since the Hodge/Judd superdraft.
Prestia and Caddy will help a fair bit and lets face it, mids are dime a dozen, easier to find than good bluechip KPP's. Reckon those 2 are probably as good or better than anything we wouldve drafted.
Our KPP stocks are in worse shape imo and need urgent attention. They are already talking up next years draft KPP talent as the best in years. Think we made the right call
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When Taranto turns out to be the next Bontempelli & SPS the next Mcleod you might change your tune... :shh
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When Taranto becomes the next Bontempelli & SPS the next Mcleod you might change your tune... :shh
well you could take it to the bank that we wouldnt have drafted them then ;)
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When Taranto becomes the next Bontempelli & SPS the next Mcleod you might change your tune... :shh
well you could take it to the bank that we wouldnt have drafted them then ;)
Ouch and double ouch!
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When Taranto becomes the next Bontempelli & SPS the next Mcleod you might change your tune... :shh
well you could take it to the bank that we wouldnt have drafted them then ;)
what do you mean TM? We have Clarke now didnt you know and hackson has been sacked, sorry demoted.
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Apparently Mrs Lids isn't happy at all 😉
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Apparently Mrs Lids isn't happy at all 😉
Probably never worked a day in her life.
2-3 years up in Sydney won't hurt.
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Heard some stuff abt Lids today, evidently has massive tickets on himself and not a team player.... comments?
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As someone who has never met him, spoken to him, knows nothing about him I agree wholeheartedly
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Hearing we are paying some of his contract ... that is poor!
And not getting a 1st round pick this year is annoying!
To be in the draft at Pick 27 is harder.
Hope we do not trade out any of our two picks next year!
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As someone who has never met him, spoken to him, knows nothing about him I agree wholeheartedly
A mate a mines daughter has a crush on him, thats as close as ive got
:shh
And no rolfie h stuff going on!!!
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:lol
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As someone who has never met him, spoken to him, knows nothing about him I agree wholeheartedly
har har har
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Think we'll have to update the site banner now, with 2/5s of the players no longer playing for us.
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Richmond's list boss Dan Richardson said it was disappointing to lose one of the club's favourite sons, but Deledio's exit paved the way for the Tigers to get former Geelong midfielder Josh Caddy to Punt Road.
"It's a byproduct of free agency," he said.
"He (Deledio) seemed ready for a fresh start and in the end, to get a first- and third-round pick next year was a fair deal.
"We've got to balance between immediate needs for next year and future needs with draft picks coming in for next year as well.
"We were comfortable from the outset of doing a straight swap for Brett if he wanted to go to Geelong.
"That fell through, but through those discussions with Josh (Caddy) and Geelong, it became apparent that Josh had a strong interest in joining us if the opportunity arose."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-20/giants-grab-star-tiger-brett-deledio-in-final-hour
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I think there's definitely I strong chance Lids will get a premiership medallion before his body finally carks it.
Will always be a tiger.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
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I reckon Lids will play a max 12 games next year. Body is stuffed and can't handle a pre-season running workload anymore. Never the best endurance athlete he will have to play the rest of his career as a stay at home forward which doesn't suit the modern game.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
Don't hold your breath unless someone pays him to do it.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
Should get the guy who wrote Lennon's letter. :shh
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
So you can whack off over it In tears and smiles ?
Seriously,how old are you
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
So you can whack off over it In tears and smiles ?
Seriously,how old are you
9, does that change anything ? We can still be friends right ?
I'd like a letter explaining why he wanted to leave. Plenty of good players went down with the sinking ship that is Richmond instead of chasing a premiership, wonder why he is different ( likely smarter )
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
So you can whack off over it In tears and smiles ?
Seriously,how old are you
Well to be fair, we all had the Tyrone trade to five knuckle shuffle over
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I reckon Lids will play a max 12 games next year. Body is stuffed and can't handle a pre-season running workload anymore. Never the best endurance athlete he will have to play the rest of his career as a stay at home forward which doesn't suit the modern game.
If he only plays 12 games next year, it won't be because of his injuries.
His achilles has been well rested for over a year. That's been his only serious injury concern throughout his career and it should be fine to go.
I'd expect him to play 15 - 20 games.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
So you can whack off over it In tears and smiles ?
Seriously,how old are you
9, does that change anything ? We can still be friends right ?
I'd like a letter explaining why he wanted to leave. Plenty of good players went down with the sinking ship that is Richmond instead of chasing a premiership, wonder why he is different ( likely smarter )
A letter from Lids would only have the usual clichéd crap. "I want to thank the fans" " I have made lifetime friends" " Richmond will always hold a special place in my heart" blah blah blah.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
So you can whack off over it In tears and smiles ?
Seriously,how old are you
9, does that change anything ? We can still be friends right ?
I'd like a letter explaining why he wanted to leave. Plenty of good players went down with the sinking ship that is Richmond instead of chasing a premiership, wonder why he is different ( likely smarter )
A letter from Lids would only have the usual clichéd crap. "I want to thank the fans" " I have made lifetime friends" " Richmond will always hold a special place in my heart" blah blah blah.
"I'm going to miss signing all those autographs"
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The simple reason Tigers traded Deledio
Herald Sun
21 October 2016
BRETT Deledio had a year left on his Richmond contract but when he asked for a trade the Tigers followed a footy rule that Neil Balme says “hasn’t changed since 1858”.
The new Richmond footy boss today revealed the reason the club let go a dual best-and-fairest winner and one of the Tigers’ ‘big five’ — leaving Alex Rance, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin as the fab four at Punt Rd.
And the reason is comes into sharper focus with Carlton’s refusal to do a deal with Adelaide to allow contracted midfield star Bryce Gibbs to go home to South Australia.
“In some ways you could say, ‘Shouldn’t we have been hard on it and say you’ve got a contract, that’s it, or do we listen to what a player says?” Balme said on SEN.
“One thing in footy that hasn’t changed since 1858 is you’ve got to have guys who really want to play for you.”
Deledio was traded to GWS in the final minutes of the trade period for first and third-round picks in next year’s draft.
Gibbs — who has three years to run on his contract compared to Deledio’s one — will have to make peace with the Blues after they couldn’t make a deal with the Crows.
“To be fair to Brett, he always said he’d be happy for his contract to be his contract, it wouldn’t have been a problem getting him to buy in ... but he said with all these other things going on he’d like to be reinvigorated and he’d like an opportunity somewhere else,” Balme said.
“At first he’d spoken to Geelong, so obviously we spoke to Geelong and for different reasons they weren’t able to do anything ... and then GWS got involved which was out of the blue for us.
“Earlier on we heard the Bulldogs but they claimed they had no interest then all of a sudden they did, which was a bit unusual.
“Then it was up to him to decide, but we had the whip hand in that he was contracted and we were confident that if we were to insist he would have been still a valuable player for us and happy to play. But at the same time we were trying to help him do what he wanted to do.”
The Tigers have another wantaway player in Ben Lennon, who requested a trade to reboot his career but found no suitors in the trade period. He signed a two-year contract at the end of last season.
Balme also said he couldn’t say when Chris Yarran — the Tigers’ star recruit in last year’s trade period — would play again.
“He is training, he’s got a fair bit of work to do, and we’re hopeful that will all work itself out.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/neil-balme-reveals-why-richmond-traded-brett-deledio-to-gws-giants/news-story/c4af5a7ddbfed75603ddd257c6961254
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Good luck to him. Never questioned his endeavor on the field. Off field whatever it's the game that counts.
Hopefully gets his body right and does a Stevie J, plays 20-odd games and kicks 40-odd goals. Fingers crossed he wins a flag even. Next best thing to RFC doing it...
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Apparently Mrs Lids isn't happy at all 😉
Probably never worked a day in her life.
2-3 years up in Sydney won't hurt.
could say the same about you.
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Apparently Mrs Lids isn't happy at all 😉
Probably never worked a day in her life.
2-3 years up in Sydney won't hurt.
could say the same about you.
Oh yeah, how do you figure that? :wallywink
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Who stuffin cares what his missus thinks? What is this, Housewives of the OER?
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Who stuffin cares what his missus thinks? What is this, Housewives of the OER?
Could make a soap opera. Plenty of lead roles already filled.
Cotch's missus as the overly opinionated one constantly defending Cotchin against everyone.
Peggy Sue as the Matriarch.
Nurse Brandene avoiding conflict.
Reece Eating too much hospital food
Lmfao
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Balme went into detail how the Brett Deledio trade to the GWS Giants was carried out by the club.
“He said with all these other things going on, he wants to be reinvigorated and would like an opportunity somewhere else,” said Balme.
“At first he spoke with Geelong and obviously for different reasons they weren’t able to do it themselves to make all these things happen.
“Then GWS got involved which was out of the blue for us but they came to us and obviously went to him and said we could make something happen.
“Earlier on we heard the Bulldogs but they claimed they had no interest and then all of a sudden they did which was a bit unusual but that’s what happened.
“Then it was up to him to decide kind of what he wanted to do…we were happy to help him in some way with what he wanted to do and when he said I’m keen to have a look at the GWS thing, once there was a reasonable deal to be done it could be done.”
Balme says that Richmond could have told other clubs that they would not trade Deledio and he would have then expected the 29-year-old to be a committed Tiger, but decided it was best to let him move.
“To be fair to Brett, he always said he was happy to play on, he’s happy for his contract to be his contract. It wouldn’t have been a problem getting him to buy in I think,” he said.
“We were confident that if we were to insist he would have still been a valuable player for us and been happy to play.
“Should we have been hard on it and say you have a contract and that’s it? Or do we listen to what a player says? I think one of the things in today’s footy which hasn’t changed since 1858, you’ve got to have guys that really want to play for you and when a player says they want to go, obviously you have to take that into account by some degree.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/10/21/neil-balme-talks-yarran-and-why-the-tigers-let-go-of-lids/
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If they listened to what players said, dimmer would be homeless
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Heard some stuff abt Lids today, evidently has massive tickets on himself and not a team player.... comments?
We are meant to comment about what you've heard although we have no idea what you heard because you haven't told us? :lol
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
Do tell.
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
you dont play the well we did for things to be rosy. I would think most players have had enough of the coach
I just hope dusty hangs around, or we are looking at 4 first rounders next year and a complete rebuild which when you look at it might not be such a bad thing.
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
Well you got what you wished for
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Apparently Mrs Lids isn't happy at all 😉
Probably never worked a day in her life.
2-3 years up in Sydney won't hurt.
could say the same about you.
Oh yeah, how do you figure that? :wallywink
The same way you did ;)
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Wouldn't mind a letter to the fans from
Lids.
Well you got what you wished for
Yep.
Great stuff from Lids.
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Richmond's 'special place in my heart': Lids
Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
October 24, 2016 10:07 AM
GREATER Western Sydney recruit Brett Deledio has bid farewell to his former club, declaring Richmond "will always hold a special place in my heart".
In an Instagram post on Monday morning, the first player drafted in 2004 thanked the Tigers.
"I would like to take this opportunity to thank the RFC (Richmond Football Club) for all that they have done for me since I arrived in 2004," Deledio said.
"I am incredibly grateful for the support, faith and guidance the club has shown in me.
"Not only developing me into an AFL footballer, but also helping me turn into the person I have become."
The comments were posted alongside a picture from his younger days, featuring longer hair and blond tips.
Deledio shared the vice-captaincy this year with ruckman Ivan Maric.
"To the Tiger faithful, thank you for sticking with me and the club through thick and thin in the time I have been at the club," he said.
"We have had some ups and downs but there you were, every weekend, cheering on the boys with that famous Tiger roar that always sent chills down my spine whenever we were making a charge at the MCG.
"While I have decided to have a fresh start, Richmond will always hold a special place in my heart and I will always be forever grateful of the influence the club has had on me."
Deledio, 29, took a pay cut to sign a three-year deal at the Giants.
He was restricted to 11 games this year after a season bookended by quad and calf injuries.
The dual All Australian had been adamant throughout the season he would stay at the Tigers despite speculation he would leave, and was contracted at the club until the end of 2017.
A trade saw Richmond receive a first- and third-round selection for next season, with the first-round pick tied to Geelong.
Hello everyone, From blonde tips and skinny arms to twelve years later and a fresh start. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the RFC for all that they have done for me since I arrived in 2004. I am incredibly grateful for the support, faith and guidance the club has shown in me. Not only developing me into an AFL footballer, but also helping me turn into the person I have become. I've met so many wonderful people at Tigerland over the years, many of which I am proud to call my close friends. To the Tiger faithful, thank you for sticking with me and the club through thick and thin in the time I have been at the club. We have had some ups and downs but there you were, every weekend, cheering on the boys with that famous Tiger roar that always sent chills down my spine whenever we were making a charge at the MCG. While I have decided to have a fresh start, Richmond will always hold a special place in my heart and I will always be forever grateful of the influence the club has had on me. I have always relished a challenge and I can't wait to embark on a new journey with the Giants. I hope the experience will be a successful one, but most importantly, it's a chance for me to learn some new things about our great game from a different perspective. Thanks again, Lids
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/brett-deledios-heartfelt-farewell-to-richmond-supporters
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
absolutely untrue
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
absolutely untrue
Your source?
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
absolutely untrue
Your source?
I have heard that Jack Reiwoldt and Trent Cotchin dislike each other.
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
absolutely untrue
All righty. Just passing on what he told me.
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
Do tell.
Sorry Dooks. Don't have any more than that. He didn't go into detail.
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Not sure if it's related or now, but I heard from a bloke who works at the club that there was a big rift in the playing group this year.
absolutely untrue
Your source?
There is absolutely no way that rifts wouldn't develop between players at some point.
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C'mon - why wouldn't 44 blokes mostly under 30 from different backgrounds and with many in direct competition with each other for spots in a high pressure enviroment with low job security all get along swimmingly 100% of the time?
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Apparently they realised he wasn't as injured as he was saying.
Soft lazy prick :snidegrin
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so lid's heart wasn't really in it this year. Funny i thought it was only the lennon vickery types that didnt try :shh
that letter the other day written by his manager was lovely now FO to the plastic factory
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(https://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2016/10/303948_0929dca7c8f6920e41e94af46a6937a1.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/4DI026U.jpg)
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Looks uglier and older LOL
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C'mon - why wouldn't 44 blokes mostly under 30 from different backgrounds and with many in direct competition with each other for spots in a high pressure enviroment with low job security all get along swimmingly 100% of the time?
Once again you amd dogged are right and I'm wrong. I sincerely apologise, I don't know how I was so stupid!
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Don't feel bad - only a very select few have played at the highest level like we have....
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Deledio fell out of love with Tigers
Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
October 26, 2016
BRETT Deledio’s waning motivation and “love of the game” at Richmond triggered his decision to walk out after 12 decorated seasons.
The Tigers’ vice-captain only decided on the eve of trade deadline he wanted to join Greater Western Sydney and a trade was lodged just minutes before Thursday’s 2pm deadline.
The dual best-and-fairest winner tracked the frantic finish from a chemist in Torquay as he sought treatment for his young daughter’s rash before his sister’s wedding.
The two-time All-Australian’s close ties with Giants football boss Wayne Campbell and a blossoming friendship with coach Leon Cameron helped him choose the league’s baby club after an 11th-hour offer from premier Western Bulldogs.
Deledio and Campbell were teammates in 2005 while he met Cameron at a wedding a couple of years ago and then crossed paths on a Port Douglas holiday last year.
Giants’ star Stevie Johnson and Deledio recently attended mutual Kyabram friend Zane Coventry’s wedding together in Wangaratta and the former Geelong champion also helped coax him into a move north.
“It started with (Johnson) trying to take a hangar on me on the dancefloor, to him telling me that I should be up there,” Deledio said today.
“He’s taken a little bit of credit for it, but he’s been fantastic since on the phone and reassuring me that the nervous feelings will go away and you’ll settle in pretty quick.”
Johnson commented on a Deledio Instagram post: “Deledio to Giants, heard it here first !! #talkedhimintoit” days before the Giants’ interest became public.
Deledio has missed 16 games in the past two years after sitting out just seven in his first 10 seasons, further encouraging his decision to start afresh.
“I started to lose a bit of … I wouldn’t say passion, but I lost motivation and the love of the game,” the 243-game superstar said.
“I just wanted to reinvigorate myself and get back out there and play for the love.
“There were some trying times certainly this year when the side’s not going so well and you’re injured yourself.
“It’s something I never saw myself doing, but it wasn’t a decision I made on the toss of a coin.”
Deledio revealed that once he requested a trade Tigers coach Damien Hardwick pushed him to join the Giants, reflecting on his move from Essendon to Port Adelaide late in his career.
“(Hardwick) completely understood that after 12 years I needed something new and a handshake and a beer and away we went,” Deledio said.
But when Deledio and Hardwick caught up last Monday, the former No.1 draft pick thought he would be staying at Punt Rd.
Deledio and wife Katie toured the Giants’ facilities early last week, but he slept on a decision on Monday and Tuesday night. He then met the Dogs late on Wednesday, just hours before locking in GWS.
The silky half-forward said “it felt a bit rushed with the Bulldogs”, while he explained his recent change of heart on the Giants.
“My wife goes, ‘I don’t think I can move to GWS, I don’t know anyone up there, we’re going to have another child, I’m not going to have any support or anything like that’,” Deledio said in August.
But he said today wife Katie “has been so supportive and backed me in to try something new and to continue my love of the game”.
Deledio was the No.1 pick in the 2004 draft and joins Ryan Griffen, the No.3 pick, at GWS.
The No.5 pick that year — Lance Franklin — was also touted to join the Giants, before blindsiding the football world with a move to Sydney after the 2013 season.
The Tigers received Geelong’s 2017 first-round selection and the Giants’ 2017 third-round selection for their 2005 Rising Star winner.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/brett-deledio-speaks-candidly-about-why-he-moved-from-richmond-to-gws-giants/news-story/306d23b62692617904542a2dd2fa28cb
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From the AFL website
The opposite forces were at work when it came to the trading of Tigers star Brett Deledio.
The Tigers weren't going to let the 29-year-old walk out the door without a significant return coming back the other way.
But they were prepared to pay a price to make it happen.
So with the Giants an interested buyer at the right price – and with a prized first-round pick available to Richmond in return – the two clubs needed to work out a deal satisfactory to both parties.
Industry sources suggest the Tigers agreed to pay about $150,000-200,000 a year of Deledio's wage (which was estimated to be $800,000 in 2017 if he stayed at the Tigers) over the next three years to get a deal over the line.
As a result Richmond gained next year's first-round pick (tied to Geelong's finishing position) and a future third-round pick.
It was not an unreasonable price for the Tigers to pay to be at the pointy end of the draft, albeit next season.
That's a good deal for both clubs with the Tigers bringing in new talent for Deledio and the Giants getting a very good player relatively cheaply, being able to absorb what the 29-year-old expected this season into a three-year deal.
Incidental to the mechanics of the trade, Deledio has agreed to less than he is probably worth in order to chase a flag.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-26/comment-the-trade-periods-hidden-agenda
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Looks uglier and older LOL
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Galleries/Features/2016/AFL%202016%20Media%20-%20Brett%20Deledio%20Press%20Conference/478198_gp.jpg)
Looks fine. I expect him to have a stronger 2017 than Hunt, Morris, Lambert ..
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Fell out of love with tigers = Hardwicks ridiculous game plan .
Most of us feel the same . We love the tigers but at the moment are not in love with the tigers.
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Looks uglier and older LOL
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Galleries/Features/2016/AFL%202016%20Media%20-%20Brett%20Deledio%20Press%20Conference/478198_gp.jpg)
Looks fine. I expect him to have a stronger 2017 than Hunt, Morris, Lambert ..
You forgot to mention his best mate Grigg....
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
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Looks uglier and older LOL
Looks fine. I expect him to have a stronger 2017 than Hunt, Morris, Lambert ..
You forgot to mention his best mate Grigg....
All of whom GWS gladly would have traded first round picks in this years "super draft" for... :rollin
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
Called it a long time ago and agree it will be seen as a great list management decision. Saying that however, I don't think it'll go down as a bad one for the Giants as Deledio should be fit and firing by finals time, something we didn't need to consider :shh
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Lids looks well and truly cooked and even if he pulls a rabbit out of the hat late in the season at GWS, I can't see him being there next year.
Which begs the question would he be worth talking a punt on as a free agent if he doesn't retire?
I am guessing that he might well not be interested in coming back to Richmond, but from a footy perspective, would you take a punt on him?
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I wouldn't it's a waste of a list spot for 12 games at best and probably only 6 would be good as he'd take time to get up to speed.
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I think we got rid of the kids balls for him to kick, would have to buy some more
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Lids looks well and truly cooked and even if he pulls a hat out of the rabbit late in the season at GWS, I can't see him being there next year.
Sounds painful for the rabbit....
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Lids looks well and truly cooked and even if he pulls a hat out of the rabbit late in the season at GWS, I can't see him being there next year.
Sounds painful for the rabbit....
OOPS
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This just in......
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-11/giant-blow-as-key-recruit-suffers-another-injury
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
Called it a long time ago and agree it will be seen as a great list management decision. Saying that however, I don't think it'll go down as a bad one for the Giants as Deledio should be fit and firing by finals time, something we didn't need to consider :shh
Chuck was the first to call it on this website.
This being the case, lets put the matter to bed and focus on the topic.
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I was actually first to call it (along with Dan Butler)
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I called both when I was born, and I'm older than most here! ;D
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:cheers
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Ill give you lot the drum theres some freaky benjamin button types on this site.
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
Called it a long time ago and agree it will be seen as a great list management decision. Saying that however, I don't think it'll go down as a bad one for the Giants as Deledio should be fit and firing by finals time, something we didn't need to consider :shh
Chuck was the first to call it on this website.
This being the case, lets put the matter to bed and focus on the topic.
Thanks Dooks
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
Called it a long time ago and agree it will be seen as a great list management decision. Saying that however, I don't think it'll go down as a bad one for the Giants as Deledio should be fit and firing by finals time, something we didn't need to consider :shh
Chuck was the first to call it on this website.
This being the case, lets put the matter to bed and focus on the topic.
Actually, with all due respect to Chuck, I was the first.
Oh, and that is on topic :shh
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Sadly it is probable that Lids will never get back to his best and injuries will cut short his career.
Offloading him for the picks we got will in time prove to be one of the best list management decisions done in ages
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/brett-deledio-making-slow-progress-from-calf-injury-but-plans-to-play-round-1-for-gws/news-story/129c86869a3d6dcb884c92d68246ef2f
The 29-year-old’s preparation again hit a hurdle at his new home when the problem resurfaced in early February.
“The calf’s going well. I’ve made a fair bit of progress (but) it’s been very slow and steady,” Deledio told Fox Footy on Monday.
Called it a long time ago and agree it will be seen as a great list management decision. Saying that however, I don't think it'll go down as a bad one for the Giants as Deledio should be fit and firing by finals time, something we didn't need to consider :shh
Chuck was the first to call it on this website.
This being the case, lets put the matter to bed and focus on the topic.
Actually, with all due respect to Chuck, I was the first.
Incorrect.
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I prophesied it when Moses had just crossed back into canaan but the papyrus I wrote it on got stolen by some hitittes.
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I prophesied it when Moses had just crossed back into canaan but the papyrus I wrote it on got stolen by some hitittes.
I heard it from Moses' great grandfather. :shh
Actually it was a guy called Adam before he went apple picking!
Ps. Told me this and also said someone called God was taking him out for spare ribs. Said he'd love the surprise at the end of it!
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Lids on the sidelines for another 8-10 weeks .
This trade really did work out beautifully for us .
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Lids on the sidelines for another 8-10 weeks .
This trade really did work out beautifully for us .
Off the top of my head: Caddy, Coleman-Jones & Balta in?
Unfortunately for Lids, he is continually getting age related soft tissue injuries. His calves were an problem that had him missing the first 8-10 weeks of a season in his last two years with us.
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Win for the Tigers
Reckon we dodge a bullet with his injury woes
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I would be shocked if he didnt retire at the end of this year
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Win for the Tigers
Reckon we dodge a bullet with his injury woes
I've probably already said this before in this thread, but I don't think we win the flag last year if Lids stays.
So BIG win for the Tigers. All minor victories are just an added bonus.
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Lids on the sidelines for another 8-10 weeks .
This trade really did work out beautifully for us .
Off the top of my head: Caddy, Coleman-Jones & Balta in?
Unfortunately for Lids, he is continually getting age related soft tissue injuries. His calves were an problem that had him missing the first 8-10 weeks of a season in his last two years with us.
Caddy is an absolute star and is at the peak of his powers . Could kick 40 goals plus . We are all thinking ( but not saying) that Balta will be Rances replacement and CCJ could be anything .
Lids should get a statue.
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Balta could be anything from Rance to Kouta to Buddy..... :shh
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I would be shocked if he didnt retire at the end of this year
Still got another year to go on his contract though.
Back to Richmond on the cheap? ;D
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I would be shocked if he didnt retire at the end of this year
Still got another year to go on his contract though.
Back to Richmond on the cheap? ;D
So he can play 6 games a season ?? . No thanks . He's cooked .
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I would be shocked if he didnt retire at the end of this year
Still got another year to go on his contract though.
Back to Richmond on the cheap? ;D
So he can play 6 games a season ?? . No thanks . He's cooked .
Only needs to play 1, champ.
:lol
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I would be shocked if he didnt retire at the end of this year
Still got another year to go on his contract though.
Back to Richmond on the cheap? ;D
I reckon they will reach some sort of settlement
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Win for the Tigers
Reckon we dodge a bullet with his injury woes
I've probably already said this before in this thread, but I don't think we win the flag last year if Lids stays.
So BIG win for the Tigers. All minor victories are just an added bonus.
Said exactly the same thing in another thread last week
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Lids has so far been a terrible big game player, so yeah
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Lids has so far been a terrible big game player, so yeah
Was one of our best in 2013 and 2014 final and was ok in 2015 final. He’s bodies obviously cooked so not gonna judge him on last year. I know people are still bitter about him leaving and I was definitely booking along with the rest of the 95k crowd in the prelim but let’s not rewrite history. He was a very good player for us and his trade request ended up benefiting us greatly as mentioned above.
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we won a flag when he left. How can anyone be bitter after winning a flag.
I hope he makes it back. Doesnt matter how hardened you are, that would have been a difficult decision leaving and then watching us win a flag was even worse.
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Lids has so far been a terrible big game player, so yeah
Was one of our best in 2013 and 2014 final and was ok in 2015 final.
Geez not this myth again - NOT IN THE SECOND HALF WHEN IT MATTERED, NOT IN THE FiRST HALF WHEN IT MATTERED and NO HE WAS BLOODY AWFUL.:facepalm
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Lids has so far been a terrible big game player, so yeah
Was one of our best in 2013 and 2014 final and was ok in 2015 final.
Geez not this myth again - NOT IN THE SECOND HALF WHEN IT MATTERED, NOT IN THE FiRST HALF WHEN IT MATTERED and NO HE WAS BLOODY AWFUL.:facepalm
So by that reckoning every single player was awful.
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Yeah if you say so- can't be arsed explaining it for the umpteenth stuffing time, let alone reliving those three disasters yet again...
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I don't recall Lids being good in either final or any final to date. His normal games are great but I think he gets nervous in finals.
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
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I feel for the guy - he was very loyal for a long time, when he could have left for success or money.
Truth is it was probably in both his and the club's best interest that he left. Club got something for him (GWS paid too much lets be honest lmao) and he got what he thought was a shot at a flag.
Just ironic how things work out.
Apparently the guy is a real wanker but all the same I wish him the best and want to see him tearing it up on the field tbh.
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
Think you’re forgetting about pick 19 for Chris Yarran.....
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Yeah if you say so- can't be arsed explaining it for the umpteenth stuffing time, let alone reliving those three disasters yet again...
Always had a problem with fearless RFC heroes :shh
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
I'd say 2016 pick 6 and 2017 second rounder for Prestia, Caddy and the pick that would be Graham was our best trade by a long way.
Especially if the former 2 help land Lynch :shh :shh
But that's why we post on OER right? To hash these things out. :gotigers
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
I'd say 2016 pick 6 and 2017 second rounder for Prestia, Caddy and the pick that would be Graham was our best trade by a long way.
Especially if the former 2 help land Lynch :shh :shh
But that's why we post on OER right? To hash these things out. :gotigers
What about October 1993, when Tiger captain, Jeff Hogg, went to Fitzroy in exchange for three Lion players – Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew Dundas. :shh
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
I'd say 2016 pick 6 and 2017 second rounder for Prestia, Caddy and the pick that would be Graham was our best trade by a long way.
Especially if the former 2 help land Lynch :shh :shh
But that's why we post on OER right? To hash these things out. :gotigers
What about October 1993, when Tiger captain, Jeff Hogg, went to Fitzroy in exchange for three Lion players – Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew Dundas. :shh
don't forget the football net also went in that trade.
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Prestia was part of this trade wasn't he?
If yes, ironic, both are injured with a similar calf prob.?
I hope Prestias injury is sorted out soon.
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Best trade we ever did by a long long way......
I'd say 2016 pick 6 and 2017 second rounder for Prestia, Caddy and the pick that would be Graham was our best trade by a long way.
Especially if the former 2 help land Lynch :shh :shh
But that's why we post on OER right? To hash these things out. :gotigers
What about October 1993, when Tiger captain, Jeff Hogg, went to Fitzroy in exchange for three Lion players – Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew Dundas. :shh
If that had won us a premiership, then yes, but it didn't, so I say no. :shh
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Prestia was part of this trade wasn't he?
If yes, ironic, both are injured with a similar calf prob.?
I hope Prestias injury is sorted out soon.
Not directly no. But both moved in the same trade period.
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What about October 1993, when Tiger captain, Jeff Hogg, went to Fitzroy in exchange for three Lion players – Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew Dundas. :shh
That wasn't really a trade, more like a mugging.
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Lids has announced he's retiring at the end of this season.
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“I’m really proud of what I’ve been able to achieve in my career,” Deledio told the Giants' website.
“I’d like to thank the players and staff both past and present at the Richmond footy club, which was my home for over a decade.
“I’m so proud to have played 243 games in the yellow and black and to have achieved two best and fairests and two All Australians there.
“I played my best footy as a Tiger but I’m so grateful for the opportunity the Giants presented me at the end of 2016.
“It’s no secret I needed a fresh start and to be able to do that at a new club like the Giants has been unbelievable for me.
“I would have loved to have played a lot more footy in the orange guernsey but it wasn’t to be and it taught me the influence I can have on the group without being out on the field.
“I’d like to thank everyone at the GIANTS, particularly the medical staff, for their support over this period.
“The past few years have been really tough, both on and off the field. But it showed me that football isn’t everything and I’m really looking forward to the next chapter of my life with my family.”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/giants-veteran-deledio-announces-afl-retirement-20190815-p52hay.html
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He was always one of my favourite tigers. He stuffed me off so badly when he said he didn’t watch the GF but a part of me really appreciates giving the fans some hope when the divide between our stars and our bottom 6 was wider than the Nullarbor
I feel like if we had got Balme and Caracalla in 2013 he would have benefitted greatly from the surge style football we currently play
Edit: you beat me to it with posting the link!
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Geez 270+ games. Can you imagine what he could have got to if his body didn’t quit on him in the past 4 years.
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Thanks Brett.
Used to be one of my faves in your early-mid years. The move to GWS may have come a year too late but it was probably good for the club.
All the best!
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If you divide 270 by the number of quarters he went missing, it's actually only about 90 matches.. :shh
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:lol
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Unlike the other “leaders” at Richmond, he wasn’t able to redeem his poor performance in the 2013 elimination final loss against the 9th placed Cheats which is our worst loss ever in my opinion (I still hear about it :banghead).
That one loss had undone all the great games I watched him play since he was drafted
Should’ve played better that game and never allowed us to lose to them, someone other than Judd had to stand up and unfortunately for Deledio and us it wasn’t him. Bad luck and good retirement where he can count all his money he got at GWS for rehabbing in the gym. :whistle :clapping
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He served us well for a long time. He deserves better than for our supporters to be rubbishing him or his contribution to our club.
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If you divide 270 by the number of quarters he went missing, it's actually only about 90 matches.. :shh
I hope they don't work out father son with your formula!
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If you divide 270 by the number of quarters he went missing, it's actually only about 90 matches.. :shh
I hope they don't work out father son with your formula!
Doesnt he have two daughters?
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If you divide 270 by the number of quarters he went missing, it's actually only about 90 matches.. :shh
I hope they don't work out father son with your formula!
Doesnt he have two daughters?
So far..... :shh
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A pity , will always be a Tiger to me.
I wish him all the best ( as long as they don't play us)
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Unlike the other “leaders” at Richmond, he wasn’t able to redeem his poor performance in the 2013 elimination final loss against the 9th placed Cheats which is our worst loss ever in my opinion (I still hear about it :banghead).
That one loss had undone all the great games I watched him play since he was drafted
Should’ve played better that game and never allowed us to lose to them, someone other than Judd had to stand up and unfortunately for Deledio and us it wasn’t him. Bad luck and good retirement where he can count all his money he got at GWS for rehabbing in the gym. :whistle :clapping
I think that’s a bit rough. That EF was lost from team selection when they played petard over foley. He more than made up for it when he helped us win 9 in a row to sneak into 8th and he actually had a crack against port. His effort against north wasn’t the best but every A grader we had that day was down bar Jack.
It was really the rejuvenation we got from Hardwick Balme and Caracalla from 2017 which allowed everyone to redeem themselves. 2012-2015 Deledio would have kicked 50 goals with our current game plan and midfield depth.
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He would be a weapon in our current team and game plan.
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He served us well for a long time. He deserves better than for our supporters to be rubbishing him or his contribution to our club.
:clapping
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Unlike the other “leaders” at Richmond, he wasn’t able to redeem his poor performance in the 2013 elimination final loss against the 9th placed Cheats which is our worst loss ever in my opinion (I still hear about it :banghead).
That one loss had undone all the great games I watched him play since he was drafted
Should’ve played better that game and never allowed us to lose to them, someone other than Judd had to stand up and unfortunately for Deledio and us it wasn’t him. Bad luck and good retirement where he can count all his money he got at GWS for rehabbing in the gym. :whistle :clapping
I think that’s a bit rough. That EF was lost from team selection when they played petard over foley. He more than made up for it when he helped us win 9 in a row to sneak into 8th and he actually had a crack against port. His effort against north wasn’t the best but every A grader we had that day was down bar Jack.
It was really the rejuvenation we got from Hardwick Balme and Caracalla from 2017 which allowed everyone to redeem themselves. 2012-2015 Deledio would have kicked 50 goals with our current game plan and midfield depth.
Pfft! Would have - Should have
You snooze you lose. He can count his money whilst we count premiership cups. He didn’t have to leave no one had a gun to his head. Could’ve been him but now Townsend has the medal he would’ve wore. He left for glory and it kissed him in the arse. You wanna leave the club we love?.....I say good riddance and suffer in ya jocks! :rollin
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Hardwick salutes ex-Tiger Brett Deledio
Ben McKay
AAP
August 16 2019 - 1:31PM
Brett Deledio might have spent 2017 grand final day at Taronga Zoo rather than watching his long-term AFL club win a flag, but he'll always be welcome at the Richmond Football Club.
"He's a Tiger through and through," coach Damien Hardwick declared after hearing of Deledio's retirement from the AFL.
Deledio was taken by the Tigers with pick one in the 2004 national draft, staying at Punt Road for 12 years and 243 games of toil.
During that time, he never won a final.
A desire for a fresh start led him north to GWS ahead of the 2017 season; the same year Richmond roared to a come-from-the-clouds premiership.
As fate would have it, Deledio clocked his 250th game in the preliminary final that season, lost to the Tigers.
The next week, Deledio famously took his children to Sydney's zoo on grand final day rather than face the pain of watching his former teammates salute.
Two years and just 24 games later, the sublimely talented forward is hanging up his boots.
Hardwick, who supported his move to the Giants, said he felt for the 32-year-old after battling with calf injuries through his final years.
"It's hard and especially for guys such as Brett. He barely missed a game up until he was 28 or 29 and then the injuries have really cut him down in what really should be the peak of his career," he said.
"There's no doubt he's still capable of playing AFL footy.
"Unfortunately sometimes your body just deserts you.
"I've incredible admiration for a guy that was here for a really difficult first part of his career.
"He'll always be a Richmond man to us. He's a Tiger through and through ... and will go down as one of the greats of the game."
https://www.macarthuradvertiser.com.au/story/6332603/hardwick-salutes-ex-tiger-brett-deledio/
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.....During that time, he never won a final. :shh
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Get over it, boy.
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At the end of the day, Lids wanted to go and on top of winning the flag the year after, it looks like we've done well out of the trade. We traded the pick we received for Lids (pick 15) to Brisbane for two picks (picks 20 & 25) and drafted CCJ and Balta with them who are both potential athletic talls for the next decade.
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.....During that time, he never won a final. :shh
I didn't notice due to all the mouth breathers blaming Cotchin for it at the time, many doing so while also talking up Deledio's too-little-too-late second half effort v Port .... :shh
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I was under the impression Deledio didn’t really want to go but was talked into it so the club could get some picks.
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Clearly wanted to go IMO. And go anywhere potentially successful...
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I was under the impression Deledio didn’t really want to go but was talked into it so the club could get some picks.
He wanted to go, he agreed to go. Geelong wanted him originally and his manager was happily talking to them but they didn't have the cap space
End of the day He could have said " no I'm staying" but didn't
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.....During that time, he never won a final. :shh
I didn't notice due to all the mouth breathers blaming Cotchin for it at the time, many doing so while also talking up Deledio's too-little-too-late second half effort v Port .... :shh
I personally was critical of every player that played in that disastrous ‘13 EF loss. A little less critical of the ‘14 loss and again very critical ‘15 loss but not as critical as the first loss (which is the worst loss in our history).
I was under the impression Deledio didn’t really want to go but was talked into it so the club could get some picks.
He wanted to go, he agreed to go. Geelong wanted him originally and his manager was happily talking to them but they didn't have the cap space
End of the day He could have said " no I'm staying" but didn't
Yes WP.
Which makes him a turncoat traitor of the nearly highest order (the highest would be if he went to the cheats). :rollin
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Deledio was pretty much the best player at the club from the moment he walked in the door at Richmond.
He played in some of Richmond's worst ever losses and was usually one of the only ones that could hold his head high in some of those absolute shockers. You don't know what it takes out of you to keep having to carry a bunch of plodders and I think he earned the right to go. While he had a couple of form lapses in his career, and went missing from time to time, in the end he lived up to his billing as a No.1 draft pick, especially when you factor in the draft picks we got for him. An RFC Hall of Famer.
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Agree DC
He had his faults off field (sour puss) but back in the day it was him Richo and daylight who carried the flag.
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He was a champion. Best wishes for him in retirement. His kicking was elite.
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I also seem to recall that he turned down some pretty decent offers from rival clubs in his earlier years.
Whether we like the fact he wanted to leave or not, his leaving played a big part in us winning a flag.
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Lids' career is over. Despite GWS winning, He re-injured his calf. He was in tears after the game.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-07/veteran-giant-in-tears-after-another-calf-injury-ends-his-career
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11 possies in %63 game time. He was always terrible in finals.
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You can come back now, you will be welcome
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You can come back now, you will be welcome
Yes, he can polish Prestia’s boots before the game. :shh
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More tears.
Gee this guy really pities himself doesn't he...?
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11 possies in %63 game time. He was always terrible in finals.
Hurt the calf early on, played on and didn't tell his teammstes
I thought he was just having a typical Deledio finals game.
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I see he is going to be on the mark telling his story about our GF win
I think it has some merit if he was dropped or missed through injury, but ffs he left for cash and glory , and it backfired
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I see he is going to be on the mark telling his story about our GF win
I think it has some merit if he was dropped or missed through injury, but ffs he left for cash and glory , and it backfired
Just a other Deledio self pity party.
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‘I was a mess’: Deledio reveals prelim heartbreak
Al Paton,
Herald Sun
19 Sep 2019
A raw Brett Deledio has revealed he apologised to his wife after Richmond defeated his new club GWS in the 2017 preliminary final.
He repeated the apology “10 times” after the Tigers won the flag the year after Deledio left Punt Rd following 12 seasons in yellow and black.
The retiring Giants midfielder has opened up about a brutal three years that included the prelim final heartbreak, repeated soft-tissue injuries and family tragedy including losing a two-year-old nephew to a rare form of brain cancer.
He has also had to say goodbye to his grandfather, aunty Trish (who he regarded as “a second mum”) and sister-in-law Sara in that time.
“I remember as soon as the siren went (in the prelim) it hit me, just the enormity of everything, and then I saw my family after it and I said, ‘I’m so sorry’. I was a bit of a mess,” Deledio says on an interview that will screen tonight on Fox Footy’s On The Mark.
“It (the bad news) just kept on coming. On the Tuesday we got news that little (nephew) Alfie, would you believe, that he had brain cancer as well. A two-year-old, that’s not meant to happen, is it? They found a pear-shaped tumour in his brain ... a one in three million chance.
“I talk about it being unfair with a footy final, how is this fair?”
Deledio wiped away tears as he recounted Grand Final day 2017, when he went to the park to escape his Richmond ghosts, only to run into a man watching the match on his phone.
“I remember checking my phone ... I had almost convinced myself that it was too unfair for it to happen, for them to win without me after everything that I’d gone through and done, for it to be the year later, I was like, ‘That can’t possibly happen’,” he said.
“I remember it just broke my heart.
“That scene in The Simpsons when you can see Ralph’s heart break — that was me.
“I think I apologised Katie 10 times in the next 20 minutes, I said, ‘I’m so sorry for dragging you up here’ ... She said, ‘Don’t you dare’. I was saying this with tears running down my face, I was just angry, because it just felt so unfair.
“I know that’s probably going to cause a stir and everyone will say, ‘You had the choice’, but I did what I thought was right at the time for my own mental state of mind.”
Deledio said he made the tough decision to leave the Tigers after a 2016 season in which the club won just eight games after making the finals in the three previous years.
“I thought, ‘Right, ’16 is the year, here we go, we’re going to launch here’, and I did my quad about two weeks from Round 1.
After a demoralising loss to Port Adelaide, he said: “I remember driving home in the car just thinking, ‘Where is this going?’ ... tears just started pouring down, (I was thinking) ‘I don’t know how much longer I can do this for, we’re supposed to be better than this’.
“I had fallen out of love with the game.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/brett-deledio-speaks-about-his-footy-heartache-family-tragedy/news-story/475dadf2ff04e978d68b54219fb6c199
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I understand the disappointment but he needs to get over it for his own mental well being.
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But there is no more devastating a tale than that of Deledio – a great of the Richmond football club and a stalwart of GWS – who beneath his selfless pride for teammates past and present, has had his dream replaced by a personal nightmare.
Deledio walked out on his beloved club Richmond to chase a premiership in the twilight of his career at GWS, only for the Tigers to climb Everest the year after he left.
He was at the MCG when GWS were beaten by the premiership-winning Tigers back in 2017, and couldn’t even bring himself to watch the grand final.
In a powerful interview with Fox Footy’s Neroli Meadows last week, Deledio – gone for the year with a calf injury – thought he would be better this time around if Richmond went onto win another flag without him – but there was no preparing for the gut-wrenching anguish of how it has now played out.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/brett-deledio-speaks-about-his-footy-heartache-family-tragedy/news-story/475dadf2ff04e978d68b54219fb6c199
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The thing I got out of that interview on Fox was yes he and his family had had a completely poo time over the past 12 months or so with the deaths in the family but for me it didn’t excuse the fact that he left us (which I am totally ok with) but to say he couldn’t watch the GF and be happy for his mates who he had spent 10 years with disgusted me. They teach you to be selfless at AFL clubs and to me Lids hadn’t learnt a thing. And I reckon he played like that too.
As much as he wasn’t a Tiger anymore he should have swallowed his self pity and been happy and proud of his mates.
Just my take.
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He's always been a jerk. Good player but a jerk. Selfish and self-obsessed.
It's all a big pity party. What about meeee?
Complete opposite of Richo!