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Title: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 13, 2016, 05:02:58 PM
1. Frawley
2. Wallace
3. Dimma
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Diocletian on July 13, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
Frawley finished top 4 and won a final in one year but was hopeless in the four other years, with half the resources that Wallace had who achieved our best 9th ever with half the talent and resources that Halfstep has who's made three finals but can't win one.

In sum - They were/are all shyte.



Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Stalin on July 13, 2016, 05:38:39 PM
If browns legs didn't snap anythin could of happened.

One gets the feeling Wallace (or any half decent coach) would get more out of the current list
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Knighter on July 13, 2016, 05:57:25 PM
1. Frawley
2. Wallace
3. Dimma

I tried to do this but broke out in a cold sweat and started shaking uncontrollably when trying to pick a no.1. Spud the Dud, Wallet and Softwick are all deserving of bottom place
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 13, 2016, 06:05:32 PM
1. Frawley
2. Wallace
3. Dimma

I tried to do this but broke out in a cold sweat and started shaking uncontrollably when trying to pick a no.1. Spud the Dud, Wallet and Softwick are all deserving of bottom place
:clapping
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 13, 2016, 06:29:34 PM
1. Frawley
2. Wallace
3. Dimma

I never thought i would see this day... :facepalm :chuck
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 13, 2016, 06:49:31 PM
1. Frawley
2. Wallace
3. Dimma

I tried to do this but broke out in a cold sweat and started shaking uncontrollably when trying to pick a no.1. Spud the Dud, Wallet and Softwick are all deserving of bottom place
:clapping
:clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 13, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Frawley had the least resources of any of them but was still able to get us a final win against the Scum cheats.
Wallace thought he was a great coach and the football club was able to enlighten him and bring him back to reality.

Dumma has had more money, resources than any coach in the clubs history. He's had more time and support than any coach could have ever imagined. He told us he had a "blueprint" for success and knew what it takes to win a premiership because unless a player can win his own ball he won't be playing in the jumper.  :rollin

I think it's pretty easy question to answer.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: mat073 on July 13, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
Frawley inherited the best list by a country mile .

Richo
Knights
Campbell
Gasper
Broderick
Gale
The Kellaways
Ottens
Cameron
Bowden

All in their prime.


Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on July 13, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
Frawley inherited the best list by a country mile .

Richo
Knights
Campbell
Gasper
Broderick
Gale
The Kellaways
Ottens
Cameron
Bowden

All in their prime.
Agreed, Frawley last by a long way. They had no resources but weren't that far behind the comp with regards to this.

Dimma took us from a genuine basket case to a team that deserves respect. That gets my vote.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: JP Tiger on July 13, 2016, 08:33:04 PM
Comparing club resources from 20 years ago to today's figures involves some serious misunderstanding of practically everything ...   
For example, take the broadcasting rights deal from 20 years ago & compare that figure to the current deal ...  :o   
See what I mean?   
Our raw numbers might look bigger than 20 years ago, or ever, but that's economics for you!  Plus, bigger numbers in our own figures doesn't mean we are keeping pace with the other 17 teams in the competition!  Hardwick might be doing better than you even realize ... 
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on July 13, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
Spud had a simple game plan
The other two confused the playing group
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Diocletian on July 13, 2016, 08:50:03 PM


Frawley inherited the best list by a country mile .

Richo
Knights
Campbell
Gasper
Broderick
Gale
The Kellaways
Ottens
Cameron
Bowden

All in their prime.
Agreed, Frawley last by a long way. They had no resources but weren't that far behind the comp with regards to this.

Dimma took us from a genuine basket case to a team that deserves respect. That gets my vote.

Nope & nope.


Comparing club resources from 20 years ago to today's figures involves some serious misunderstanding of practically everything ...   
For example, take the broadcasting rights deal from 20 years ago & compare that figure to the current deal ...  :o   
See what I mean?   
Our raw numbers might look bigger than 20 years ago, or ever, but that's economics for you!  Plus, bigger numbers in our own figures doesn't mean we are keeping pace with the other 17 teams in the competition!  Hardwick might be doing better than you even realize ... 

Yeah....nah....

Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Stalin on July 13, 2016, 08:54:15 PM

  Hardwick might be doing better than you even realize ...

Oy Vey...
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 13, 2016, 09:16:10 PM
Comparing club resources from 20 years ago to today's figures involves some serious misunderstanding of practically everything ...   
For example, take the broadcasting rights deal from 20 years ago & compare that figure to the current deal ...  :o   
See what I mean?   
Our raw numbers might look bigger than 20 years ago, or ever, but that's economics for you!  Plus, bigger numbers in our own figures doesn't mean we are keeping pace with the other 17 teams in the competition!  Hardwick might be doing better than you even realize ...

Erm no
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: mat073 on July 13, 2016, 11:23:52 PM


Frawley inherited the best list by a country mile .

Richo
Knights
Campbell
Gasper
Broderick
Gale
The Kellaways
Ottens
Cameron
Bowden

All in their prime.
Agreed, Frawley last by a long way. They had no resources but weren't that far behind the comp with regards to this.

Dimma took us from a genuine basket case to a team that deserves respect. That gets my vote.

Nope & nope.


Comparing club resources from 20 years ago to today's figures involves some serious misunderstanding of practically everything ...   
For example, take the broadcasting rights deal from 20 years ago & compare that figure to the current deal ...  :o   
See what I mean?   
Our raw numbers might look bigger than 20 years ago, or ever, but that's economics for you!  Plus, bigger numbers in our own figures doesn't mean we are keeping pace with the other 17 teams in the competition!  Hardwick might be doing better than you even realize ... 

Yeah....nah....

I know you hate the current regime.....but baffled you could could disagree with this
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Penelope on July 13, 2016, 11:58:57 PM
one thing that sticks in my mind was a training report from one of hardwicks first sessions that mentioned how often they had to stop because they didnt know the little things, probably that he took for granted at hawthorn.

Wallace was trying to get his players to implement numerous very different game plans, while hawks and cats were perfecting one and its varients.

Wallace left us in the dark ages of football, riding horses and goats while they were developing the sports car.

Must be at the bottom of the list.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Rodgerramjet on July 14, 2016, 04:14:01 PM
They all faced different problems and failed accordingly.

I think the key to hardwicks success, if you can call it that, has been the stability of the administration, they have done a pretty good job off field but then at the same time allowed a football dept to utterly sabotage them at every turn.

The key weakness of the administration and will bring about their eventual demise has been the inability to confront or even more correctly RECOGNIZE the incompetence's of the football dept.

The problems were recognizable 2 years ago.

One of the first things i would do is get Wayne Campbell back.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 14, 2016, 05:11:53 PM
They all faced different problems and failed accordingly.

I think the key to hardwicks success, if you can call it that, has been the stability of the administration, they have done a pretty good job off field but then at the same time allowed a football dept to utterly sabotage them at every turn.

The key weakness of the administration and will bring about their eventual demise has been the inability to confront or even more correctly RECOGNIZE the incompetence's of the football dept.

The problems were recognizable 2 years ago.

One of the first things i would do is get Wayne Campbell back.

I'd argue that things football have taken a back seat to establishing a politically correct brand, in the belief that such perceived stability would ultimately lead to longevity and success on field.

Basically they fail on all levels.

It's a football club.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Diocletian on July 14, 2016, 05:23:07 PM
One of the first things i would do is get Wayne Campbell back.

Like stuff......Cancer Campbell should stay as far away from the club as possible.......
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 14, 2016, 11:31:29 PM
Wallace
Frawley
Dimwit. Last

I challenge anyone to find a game they were more embarrassed to follow this club, than the GC loss after the siren and blues loss in the final.



Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 14, 2016, 11:43:42 PM
Wallace
Frawley
Dimwit. Last

I challenge anyone to find a game they were more embarrassed to follow this club, than the GC loss after the siren and blues loss in the final.
Hafey tribute game is worse than the GC loss.
The EF loss against the scum was the worse loss in the clubs history.

But there is a common denominator in all of them.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: mat073 on July 15, 2016, 01:13:41 AM
The 157 point loss to Geelong 2007.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2016, 03:28:29 AM
The 103 point loss v Carlton in the FTF match was pretty woeful.

The 157 point loss to Geelong 2007.

Geelong was a gun side that we caught at the precise moment the juggernaut clicked into top gear.

GC was Ablett with a bunch of teenagers and cokehead from the NRL.

Carlton was 9th.


Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: jammo3368 on July 15, 2016, 04:02:17 AM
They have all been ordinary but Hardwick is the worst. And the other 2 were terrible. Hardwick has had better resources but has misjudged his players, elevating a series of losers and not giving other's a fair go, and he has lacked any creativity with his game plans - he seems always to be a few years behind other coaches despite having numerous excellent players and far more than the other 2 had.
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 15, 2016, 06:07:01 AM
They have all been ordinary but Hardwick is the worst. And the other 2 were terrible. Hardwick has had better resources but has misjudged his players, elevating a series of losers and not giving other's a fair go, and he has lacked any creativity with his game plans - he seems always to be a few years behind other coaches despite having numerous excellent players and far more than the other 2 had.

Well said Jammo  :clapping
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 15, 2016, 06:41:13 AM
The 103 point loss v Carlton in the FTF match was pretty woeful.

The 157 point loss to Geelong 2007.

Geelong was a gun side that we caught at the precise moment the juggernaut clicked into top gear.

GC was Ablett with a bunch of teenagers and cokehead from the NRL.

Carlton was 9th.

Correct. Dimwit and his little fairies find new ways to embarrass the club and its fans
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 15, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
Hardwick's obsession with contested ball is way over the top too. Yes, it is great to win the contested ball, but not at the cost of many other facets of the game - pressuring, tackling, shepherding, blocking, tapping the ball on to advantage and kicking to the fat side going forward (hi big tone!) to name a few.
Just look at the hawks. They lost the contested ball to Sydney by 30+ and still won the match!!!!!

Just another way that he is lagging behind trendsetters like Clarkson. :whistle
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Penelope on July 15, 2016, 11:22:11 AM
The 103 point loss v Carlton in the FTF match was pretty woeful.

The 157 point loss to Geelong 2007.

Geelong was a gun side that we caught at the precise moment the juggernaut clicked into top gear.

GC was Ablett with a bunch of teenagers and cokehead from the NRL.

Carlton was 9th.
C'mon Dio, that is seriously appologist excuse making.

That highlighted just how far behind the best clubs, and i say club rather than team, we had slipped behind in how we went about football.

That was the ferrari racing the horse and buggy.

that wasnt a group of kids getting beat up on by team of match hardened footballers, that was a club leading the way on how to manage and play the modern game, against club still in the 80s

That was a club perfecting one basic game plan and its variants, against a club winging it week to week.

what was it Jack said when hardwick took over? something a long the lines of it was like going from primary school to high school?

Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Not apologizing for anything....as one of the few who stayed until the bitter end, the Docklands massacre was still a disgrace, any time you concede over 200 and/or lose by 157 points is, unless you're a new club or in the first year of a full rebuild.....just think losing to kids who hadn't won a match all year and blowing a 6 goal lead in a final to a team only there by default were worse.....anyway, you'll notice I said all three coaches were/are shyte....
Title: Re: Rank the following Richmons senior coaches best to worst
Post by: tdy on July 15, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
Why don't we add in a few more coaches pre frawley
The Geisch
K BARTLETT
Robert Walls at the Tiges
Norther