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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Knighter on August 02, 2016, 06:39:26 PM
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Emma Q at the Age saying Prestia to Tigers all done
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why do we even want presti ? another small mid
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Meh
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Happy with but would love to retain our 1st round pick.
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Happy with but would love to retain our 1st round pick.
Who says we won't
We may trade a 1st round pick in as we trade someone out
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Happy with but would love to retain our 1st round pick.
Who says we won't
We may trade a 1st round pick in as we trade someone out
We might do that and i think we should do that. Young talent is a requirement year after year.
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Is mini wog gunna play ruck or CHB ?
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Is mini wog gunna play ruck or CHB ?
yessssssssssssssss :clapping
Oh and for the record it's The Human Meatball :thumbsup
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Is mini wog gunna play ruck or CHB ?
yessssssssssssssss :clapping
Oh and for the record it's The Human Meatball :thumbsup
Polpette! Fantastic!
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Happy with but would love to retain our 1st round pick.
Who says we won't
We may trade a 1st round pick in as we trade someone out
We may also trade next years first rounder if we think it may be less valuable (i.e. we finish higher than this year).
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
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i would only trade Pick 4 for Prestia if we could get a pick in return. They have that many picks they can give s back a late first rounder.
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
The question will remain though - do we think we will rise up the ladder significantly next year? If yes, then even if it's a super draft, pick 12 won't be better than pick 4. Depth is what separates drafts more than anything.
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
The question will remain though - do we think we will rise up the ladder significantly next year? If yes, then even if it's a super draft, pick 12 won't be better than pick 4. Depth is what separates drafts more than anything.
Thats my fear - I have little doubt internally we will think we will rise rapidly, reality though... :whistle
as stupid as it sounds I firmly believe we COULD HAVE done a quick cleanout and rebounded fast in a year or so IF we were able to get a Hurley and decent 1st ruck in, trade away some deadwood that still has currency and bounce back fast, but Hurley isnt happening, 1st rucks not looking likely and I doubt we will cut deep.
The more I think about it, the more I feel we just need to take the hard road for the next couple of years, cut deep and go hard in this years and next years drafts and then evaluate from there.
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
The question will remain though - do we think we will rise up the ladder significantly next year? If yes, then even if it's a super draft, pick 12 won't be better than pick 4. Depth is what separates drafts more than anything.
Thats my fear - I have little doubt internally we will think we will rise rapidly, reality though... :whistle
as stupid as it sounds I firmly believe we COULD HAVE done a quick cleanout and rebounded fast in a year or so IF we were able to get a Hurley and decent 1st ruck in, trade away some deadwood that still has currency and bounce back fast, but Hurley isnt happening, 1st rucks not looking likely and I doubt we will cut deep.
The more I think about it, the more I feel we just need to take the hard road for the next couple of years, cut deep and go hard in this years and next years drafts and then evaluate from there.
Agree. That's what I would do to. However, patience is not something the RFC has at all. :whistle
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
The question will remain though - do we think we will rise up the ladder significantly next year? If yes, then even if it's a super draft, pick 12 won't be better than pick 4. Depth is what separates drafts more than anything.
Thats my fear - I have little doubt internally we will think we will rise rapidly, reality though... :whistle
as stupid as it sounds I firmly believe we COULD HAVE done a quick cleanout and rebounded fast in a year or so IF we were able to get a Hurley and decent 1st ruck in, trade away some deadwood that still has currency and bounce back fast, but Hurley isnt happening, 1st rucks not looking likely and I doubt we will cut deep.
The more I think about it, the more I feel we just need to take the hard road for the next couple of years, cut deep and go hard in this years and next years drafts and then evaluate from there.
As I said somewhere in another thread.
Pick 4 means nothing if we choose the wrong player or stuff up his development like we've done chronically for the last 10 years.
Prestia is an A-grade player and suits our needs - a tough/tackling inside mid but he's also quick by foot. He's still got easily 7-9 years of footy left in him so even with pick four he's a great option.
Sure we could throw some players their way too and hope to get picks back but honestly if we trade our first round picks for proven players with longevity in them then it's worthwhile.
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Should be after Tomlinson....opinion seems fairly divided on him but I reckon he has the tools to be as good as Kennedy from the Swans in a few years, except he can genuinely play all three lines whereas Kennedy only plays mid & occasionally forward....
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Here's the full article:
Tigers look set to land Prestia
Emma Quayle
The Age
August 3, 2016
Richmond has firmed as the likely new home for Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia.
The Tigers appear poised to land the former top 10 draft pick, 12 months after missing out on Adam Treloar.
Prestia has been linked to Richmond for several months, but it is believed he has now unofficially committed to joining the club.
Gold Coast have not been informed of Prestia's plans beyond this year, but also suspect he is Punt Road-bound.
The Suns are holding onto some hope they will still be able to sign both him and fellow onballer Jaeger O'Meara to new contracts.
Gold Coast already hold Richmond's second-round pick in this year's draft, after it was worked into a three-club trade involving Port Adelaide and Charlie Dixon at the end of last season.
That trade helped the Tigers land Chris Yarran, who has not been sighted at senior level this year.
The Suns will likely push for the Tigers' first round selection as compensation for their vice captain, who will not play again this season because of a knee injury.
Prestia would add immediate pace, class and ball-winning ability to the Richmond midfield and be a significant signing for the club in what has become a difficult year.
The Tigers were right in the race for ex-Giant Treloar last year but missed out when he chose to play for Collingwood instead.
Prestia's season was ruled over after he underwent knee surgery four weeks ago.
The 23-year-old, who missed the second half of 2015 with a meniscus injury, was operated on after round 16.
His injury has forced the Suns to play on without their six standout midfielders: Gary Ablett, David Swallow, Jaeger O'Meara, Michael Rischitelli, Aaron Hall and Prestia.
Prestia has been one of Gold Coast's most consistent players since he was selected at pick 9 in the 2010 draft, finishing in the top three of their best and fairest in 2013 and 2014.
Richmond is one of a handful of clubs to have pursued the Suns' vice-captain to some degree, with Melbourne, Hawthorn and Carlton at times linked to the 95-game player.
O'Meara's return from a serious knee injury was held up again last week, after he pulled up sore in a reserves game.
The former Rising Star winner has not played a senior match since the end of 2014, and the Suns are believed unlikely to risk him again this year.
He had been building towards a return to the senior side when he developed soreness before half-time in the NEAFL game.
O'Meara played his first half of football in 15 months in round 14 and had hoped to increase his game time with a view to playing some senior football late in the season.
The seriousness of his injury and his struggle to return has made it difficult for the numerous rival clubs interested in him to determine how big a contract they can responsibly afford to offer him.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html
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Will be the biggest mistake they ever make. Has already done his knee previously & is a small mid around 175cm. Not sure on his weight but he be bordering approx 80kg.
RFC needs a taller mid 180cm at least & 87kg bulk to protect & destroy. We need a mid who can protect the Miles, Cotchin type. l tired of watching these small soft players
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Stop talking crap. Kid is a gun and also never done his knee.
We need class and he has that.
Welcome Dion :clapping
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While I prefer not giving up draft picks with the current recruiting department as it is there is no guarantee that they will get the selection right with a draft pick and even if they do we have chronic problems with developing players so any player we draft presently basically has to be a ready made player.
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I give him until June before he joins the illustrious group of average small players we have in the team.
Either that or tigeritis will hit him hard.
Will be a bad mistake to use pick 6 on him but then again it might be better than what old man hackson can find us
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I reckon he's a good mid but not great. Wouldn't part with a pick under 14-15.
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Will be great but not getting carried away until he has signed.
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has he got mental issues??
What due diligence has been done?
If he is coming to us he must be an idiot.
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Is he fantastic?
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As a club we seem to become fixated on a player linked to us, chase him, get him or nearly get him, high five ourselves for job well done and then pick up a useless delisted free agent in junk time.
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He's hot!
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Is he fantastic?
To quote Riewoldt, that's 'Borderline Hysterical'
But yes, he's
FFFFFAAAAAAAAANTASSSSTIC!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stop talking crap. Kid is a gun and also never done his knee.
We need class and he has that.
Welcome Dion :clapping
You stop talking crap, why do you think he isn't playing the rest of the season? :lol
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Meniscal tear. Not an ACL.
Just being accurate.
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In before he nominates Collingwood at the last minute.....
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Meniscal tear. Not an ACL.
Just being accurate.
Since when has ACL been the definition of "doing your knee" :lol
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has he got mental issues??
What due diligence has been done?
If he is coming to us he must be an idiot.
Clearly.
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He will be like the next thing to save the club since the last thing that was supposed to!
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Meniscal tear. Not an ACL.
Just being accurate.
Since when has ACL been the definition of "doing your knee" :lol
Never said it did. Just clarifying the discussion.
There are some around the traps that equate the two though. Incorrectly, I add.
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Meniscal tear. Not an ACL.
Just being accurate.
Since when has ACL been the definition of "doing your knee" :lol
Never said it did. Just clarifying the discussion.
There are some around the traps that equate the two though. Incorrectly, I add.
Don't think anyone was under the impression he did his ACL but thanks for the clarification anyway
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If this is gonna cost us our top pick, the erection will go flaccid. we need rigid foundations upon which to build this clubs future talent, no spending our top pick.
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Ben Ainsworth will be available at our pick so we need to keep this pick at all costs.
We cant give this away for Prestia
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Ben Ainsworth will be available at our pick so we need to keep this pick at all costs.
We cant give this away for Prestia
:gotigers
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Must be a "nice guy" or forget it. :snidegrin
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Brian Waldron now reckons he's off to Hawthorn.....mind you, he said he was off to Carlton last week and also that Rance was leaving the week before that....
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Fearless prediction: We fail to land anyone of note again and the incumbents at the club then come out and blame "distabilising influences from outside the club" for putting off the players we targeted.... :shh
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:-*declare four days out from the end of trade week we won't be landing anyone of note (again)
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Never fear,.....a fit Yarran & "natural improvement" as players "take the next step", will see us catapult back into top 8 contention... :gotigers
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Prestia and Collingwoods 1st rounder for Lids and Vickery thanks.
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
The question will remain though - do we think we will rise up the ladder significantly next year? If yes, then even if it's a super draft, pick 12 won't be better than pick 4. Depth is what separates drafts more than anything.
Thats my fear - I have little doubt internally we will think we will rise rapidly, reality though... :whistle
as stupid as it sounds I firmly believe we COULD HAVE done a quick cleanout and rebounded fast in a year or so IF we were able to get a Hurley and decent 1st ruck in, trade away some deadwood that still has currency and bounce back fast, but Hurley isnt happening, 1st rucks not looking likely and I doubt we will cut deep.
The more I think about it, the more I feel we just need to take the hard road for the next couple of years, cut deep and go hard in this years and next years drafts and then evaluate from there.
agree, we need to be realistic, can we compete next year with GWS for the Flag with stop gaps or do we need to step back, reload & have a decent crack in 3-4 yrs time? i reckon the latter is a better shot, the former is what Norf have tried & it's looking like it will backfire on them bigtime.
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Will be the biggest mistake they ever make. Has already done his knee previously & is a small mid around 175cm. Not sure on his weight but he be bordering approx 80kg.
RFC needs a taller mid 180cm at least & 87kg bulk to protect & destroy. We need a mid who can protect the Miles, Cotchin type. l tired of watching these small soft players
Meniscus tear, just an arthroscopic clean-up and that's it.
175cm and 82kg, very stocky for his height.
Not disputing that we need bigger mids though. I'd consider Barlow for 2-3 years while we draft/develop more.
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hope we don't give up our first round pick >:(
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Ben Ainsworth will be available at our pick so we need to keep this pick at all costs.
We cant give this away for Prestia
Very good player is Ben :thumbsup
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Stop talking crap. Kid is a gun and also never done his knee.
We need class and he has that.
Welcome Dion :clapping
If Prestia was such a gun player. How do you judge this :huh He has only played just over 20 games in the last 2 seasons. :lol
crap talker watch the game
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30 goals in 90 games. Dont expect a goal kicking mid so he will fit right in.
At least he tackles though
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He’s a first-round selection: Pelchen
Ben Higgins
News Corp Australia
August 3, 2016
RESPECTED list manager Chris Pelchen has given an insight into what club’s might be prepared to give up for this year’s hottest trade targets.
This year’s trade period kicks off on October 10, a week after the AFL Grand Final, with some big names expected to move clubs.
Pelchen is best known for helping build the current Hawthorn list that has gone onto win three consecutive premierships.
Dion Prestia is arguably the biggest name on the trade table this year with Richmond and Melbourne fighting for his services.
“In terms of a trade, well obviously he’s a player returning home, and he’s highly rated by Gold Coast there’s no doubt about that – I know the guys there still rate him highly,” he told SEN Radio.
“So he’s a first-round selection, he’s a player with immense talent and he’s actually what Richmond do need.
“They need to provide some more support to Dustin Martin and he’s the perfect player to do that, he is, he is a first-round selection yes.”
Fellow Sun, O’Meara is expected to remain at Metricon Stadium should Prestia depart but will still command plenty of attention during the trade period.
The injury-cursed midfielder returned from a long-term knee injury in the NEAFL last month but Pelchen said his talent was too hard to ignore.
“I’ve had several recruiting and list managers talking to me about that in the last month and again based on his potential when he was drafted in both character and performance he was outstanding,” he said.
“Injury problems are something you can’t ignore ... clubs will value Jaeger very differently, if he’s able to overcome injury he’s definitely worth even more than a stand-alone first-round selection.
“The problem is the same that clubs had with Selwood in the draft ... we were one at Hawthorn that bypassed Joel because of injury ... someone will ultimately take the chance on him if Gold Coast release him.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-pelchen-reveals-what-big-name-trade-targets-could-be-worth-in-afl-trade-period/news-story/102dc7365eeed93e3256ac56415174be
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
Disagree. I think your first rounder should always be on the table.
Regarding Prestia, I think pick five is approaching the mark. Id be upset with losing it, but if we bring in a few late first rounders (Vickery/Lids/Ellis) I think it might be the right move. Just my opinion.
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
Disagree. I think your first rounder should always be on the table.
Regarding Prestia, I think pick five is approaching the mark. Id be upset with losing it, but if we bring in a few late first rounders (Vickery/Lids/Ellis) I think it might be the right move. Just my opinion.
He is not worth pick 5. Pretty simple
You don't get many occasions to have such a good pick.
Jake Stringer was a pick 5 and if you are ever a chance to pick up a player like that kid with that pick you keep it. You can build a premiership team around a kid like that.
Not sure you can say the same about Prestia.
You have to be bold.
That's why the Conca pick has been so costly IMO. You take Heppell in that draft and your club is already a better place.
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Tigers urged to give up on Prestia
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
4 August 2016
RICHMOND has been urged to dump its plans to secure brilliant Gold Coast onballer Dion Prestia.
The Tigers have chased Prestia’s signature all season as part of a bid to top-up its list for a shot at a premiership.
But after a poor season, leading player manager Scott Lucas and Port Adelaide great Kane Cornes said the Tigers should change their approach and load up on fresh talent at the draft.
Prestia, 23, would almost certainly cost the Tigers their first-round draft pick, currently No. 6.
But after only seven wins this season, which has placed huge pressure on their contracted coach Damien Hardwick, a forthright Cornes said the Tigers weren’t in a strong enough position to go all-out for another mature-age star.
He said the Tigers should abort the Prestia move and rebuild properly with younger talent.
“To target Prestia now ... It’s not the right call, they’re not in the premiership window,” Cornes said on Fox Footy.
The Tigers have also already traded away their second-round pick (currently No. 24) in this year’s draft to Gold Coast.
Lucas said the Tigers should look to rebuild with young talent through the draft in an attempt to peak from about 2018 onwards.
“If you give up your first-round pick for Prestia, you are not actually in the draft until the third round,” Lucas said.
“The issue is from a list management and crystal balling, if next year is going to be a rebuild what does Prestia do? Does he help you win two extra games? Do you want that?
“Or would you rather keep your picks and have another couple of kids (in this year’s draft) that are in their prime in three or four years?
“They really should be looking over the next two or three years to acquire as many top-20 picks as they can however that has to happen.”
Prestia, who has played 95 games, would command a salary in excess of $650,000 a season at Punt Rd next season.
Hawthorn has also been linked to a move on Prestia, who has recently battled injury issues which have restricted him to 22 games in his past two seasons.
The Victorian last week said he is weighing up a tough decision whether to come home to a Melbourne club.
Lucas said the Tigers should look to bring in mature talent through free agency in the coming years, rather than trading away top picks now.
“Free agency (only) costs you the money (for player’s salary) and a list spot,” Lucas said on SEN.
“Trading costs you money, a list spot and the (draft) picks generally or the players you have to give up to get a player in.”
The Tigers have failed to secure a star midfielder in recent years, missing out on Adam Treloar, Patrick Dangerfield and David Armitage.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-urged-to-dump-plans-to-recruit-gold-coast-onballer-dion-prestia/news-story/34a753db0868b51d5e633e80af555fcb
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
Disagree. I think your first rounder should always be on the table.
Regarding Prestia, I think pick five is approaching the mark. Id be upset with losing it, but if we bring in a few late first rounders (Vickery/Lids/Ellis) I think it might be the right move. Just my opinion.
He is not worth pick 5. Pretty simple
You don't get many occasions to have such a good pick.
Jake Stringer was a pick 5 and if you are ever a chance to pick up a player like that kid with that pick you keep it. You can build a premiership team around a kid like that.
Not sure you can say the same about Prestia.
You have to be bold.
That's why the Conca pick has been so costly IMO. You take Heppell in that draft and your club is already a better place.
I would argue saving the pick and giving up Prestia is the softer option.
Conca draft, yep we screwed the pooch there, tough to argue that wasnnt a balls up (I think Caddy went after Conca as well?).
Just my opinion, but our list is in now way as bad a shape as the media and many of the OER punters would say. Put Prestia into that team, get Yarran up and running (Maybe Tomlinson as well) and guys like Lennon and C Ellis getting another preseason into the legs I still think we've got enough talent.
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Reckon we might not be as far away as some think, so much of the game is played above the shoulders also and inside our players heads at the moment is something close to scrambled eggs or fairy floss.
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A pick 4 or 5 for a player with two injury interrupted seasons, if his ceiling was elite maybe but not for a solid a grader.
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look at all these stuffing scumbags with an opinion on how to run our stuffing club with vested interests elsewhere. Here is a hot tip, stuff off and mind your business.
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A sane club would say no...a sane club, that is.
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look at all these stuffing scumbags with an opinion on how to run our stuffing club with vested interests elsewhere. Here is a hot tip, stuff off and mind your business.
:thumbsup
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much prefer to rely on FJ to pick a gem from the draft than take a solid a grade player.
No deal!
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Not worth pick 4-6. Not elite. Solid A grader who can have quiet games.
But then again, collingwood traded 2 first rounders for Treloar.
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Tigers urged to give up on Prestia
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
4 August 2016
RICHMOND has been urged to dump its plans to secure brilliant Gold Coast onballer Dion Prestia.
The Tigers have chased Prestia’s signature all season as part of a bid to top-up its list for a shot at a premiership.
But after a poor season, leading player manager Scott Lucas and Port Adelaide great Kane Cornes said the Tigers should change their approach and load up on fresh talent at the draft.
Prestia, 23, would almost certainly cost the Tigers their first-round draft pick, currently No. 6.
But after only seven wins this season, which has placed huge pressure on their contracted coach Damien Hardwick, a forthright Cornes said the Tigers weren’t in a strong enough position to go all-out for another mature-age star.
He said the Tigers should abort the Prestia move and rebuild properly with younger talent.
“To target Prestia now ... It’s not the right call, they’re not in the premiership window,” Cornes said on Fox Footy.
The Tigers have also already traded away their second-round pick (currently No. 24) in this year’s draft to Gold Coast.
Lucas said the Tigers should look to rebuild with young talent through the draft in an attempt to peak from about 2018 onwards.
“If you give up your first-round pick for Prestia, you are not actually in the draft until the third round,” Lucas said.
“The issue is from a list management and crystal balling, if next year is going to be a rebuild what does Prestia do? Does he help you win two extra games? Do you want that?
“Or would you rather keep your picks and have another couple of kids (in this year’s draft) that are in their prime in three or four years?
“They really should be looking over the next two or three years to acquire as many top-20 picks as they can however that has to happen.”
Prestia, who has played 95 games, would command a salary in excess of $650,000 a season at Punt Rd next season.
Hawthorn has also been linked to a move on Prestia, who has recently battled injury issues which have restricted him to 22 games in his past two seasons.
The Victorian last week said he is weighing up a tough decision whether to come home to a Melbourne club.
Lucas said the Tigers should look to bring in mature talent through free agency in the coming years, rather than trading away top picks now.
“Free agency (only) costs you the money (for player’s salary) and a list spot,” Lucas said on SEN.
“Trading costs you money, a list spot and the (draft) picks generally or the players you have to give up to get a player in.”
The Tigers have failed to secure a star midfielder in recent years, missing out on Adam Treloar, Patrick Dangerfield and David Armitage.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-urged-to-dump-plans-to-recruit-gold-coast-onballer-dion-prestia/news-story/34a753db0868b51d5e633e80af555fcb
Crap article.
They make it sound like Prestia is entering the twilight of his career.
Has at least 7 years of football in him, maybe even 8+. There's no reason we can't bring him into the side for a premiership push in 3-5 years.
If there's a way to secure him and keep our first round pick I'm all for it - and this is where I think we need to consider trading Deledio.
Arguably Lids won't fit the GCS because they're not in premiership contention, hence we should look at trading him to other clubs such as Hawthorn, Sydney, GWS, Adelaide and Geelong for their first round picks (say anywhere from no. 14-18) which we could then on-trade to GCS (+/- a steak knife?) for Prestia.
We have plenty of players with mid-range currency IMO. Vickery, B Ellis, S Edwards. High-end that I would trade include Lids and Cotchin.
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Not worth pick 4-6. Not elite. Solid A grader who can have quiet games.
But then again, collingwood traded 2 first rounders for Treloar.
Would you trade Lids straight up?
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
i'd like to get some picks back during trade period.
just Prestia then Draft at pick 40+ leaves us well short.
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A pick 4 or 5 for a player with two injury interrupted seasons, if his ceiling was elite maybe but not for a solid a grader.
in the Prospectus he was rated above ave & predicted to go elite.
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There is no way in hell you would give away pick 5 for Prestia, surely!
I have no problem if he nominates Tigerland as his club of choice but a trade of players would have to get it done IMO.
When I hear the club talking about landing a big fish with all this money we are supposed to have, I would hope it's for a free agent. Spend more than a player is probably worth (HURLEY FFS) money wise but get him for free in terms of picks or trades.
WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRST PICK NO MATTER WHAT!!
Deledio to GWS for Pick ~16 and ~32
Pick ~6 and ~16 to GC for pick ~4 and Prestia. Probably wouldn't get it done unless Prestia forced their hand.
We then finish with pick 4, 32 and Prestia
lost Deledio and pick 6
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Deledio to GWS for Pick ~16 and ~32
Pick ~6 and ~16 to GC for pick ~4 and Prestia. Probably wouldn't get it done unless Prestia forced their hand.
We then finish with pick 4, 32 and Prestia
lost Deledio and pick 6
We'll have to be creative. I'm not sure if we'd get that exchange for Prestia, but don't forget we can trade picks from 2017 as well.
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I don't think we should keep trading picks away that are years down the track if it's permitted, that will only set us up to fail more so than we have now. It's not sustainable.
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I don't think we should keep trading picks away that are years down the track if it's permitted, that will only set us up to fail more so than we have now. It's not sustainable.
Or it could force us to be bold and trade out dead wood to get those picks back.
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Not worth pick 4-6. Not elite. Solid A grader who can have quiet games.
But then again, collingwood traded 2 first rounders for Treloar.
Would you trade Lids straight up?
Given his body, and age, i think so
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Given the list and the likely time frame of building a top 4 then we should be trading into picks rather than out of them.
But wait a lot of people think it can be turned around quickly more fool them.
We could make finals next year if everything goes well, but bet your bottom dollar it will not be sustainable.
To build anything that is remotely sustainable you need depth, quality and a decent spread of high quality you dont get these things over night.
We have 5 or 6 top end players and then it is daylight with a wing and a prayer on what kids we have.
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Keep in mid our depth at the age of Prestia is arguably pretty poor.
If we do end up trading deledio vickery edwards et al and get some decent picks back it could be long term advantageous
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If we go Prestia we should be trying to use next years 1st, agree with trading into picks this year whether it be for the draft or for other trades
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If we go Prestia we should be trying to use next years 1st, agree with trading into picks this year whether it be for the draft or for other trades
Well we have to. No doubt.
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Size size size. At 175cm im asking myself is he the type we really need.
I keep on thinking we need a real big inside competitive beast. Plus not one but a shead load of talls before we need mids.
The thing that has me double guessing is Prestia is proven, He is a solid little bugger and He does win his fair share of C/P and when fit does most things well in most areas. But i am asking myself how will he go with so many other midgets around him.
I think he is indeed worth a top 10 pick but is he the type we need above all else.
FFS tiges go and target some talls.
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The more I think about it the more I think we should steer clear of Pestia.
We 100% need to keep our first pick but probably as important, we need to trade out our players for extra picks.
I respect what the club has done in recent times in terms of not signing every man and his dog for the sake of it.
Clean this list out and start to bring in kids.
Kids that are competitive beasts. No more shy, introverted, skinny kids.
Definite trades, delistings and retirements should be- Lids, Ellis, Conca, Griffiths, Grigg, Vickery, Houli, Hunt, Hampson, Moore, Townsend, Marcon, Batchelor, Morris, Chaplin, Maric, McKenzie
Thats potentially at least 7 extra draft picks for this coming draft.
There is a few there that should get us some picks under 30 too.
Which still leaves this side for next year with obviously a lot of new kids to pick from as well.
Hurley should be our main focus in the next 4 weeks. Get someone to sell him the dream and direction that we are about to start.
Short Rance Grimes
McIntosh HURLEY Yarran
Menadue Vlastuin Markov
C. Ellis Elton Lloyd
Rioli Jack Edwards
?? Cotch Martin (we need a decent ruckman)
Miles Lambert C. Moore Castagna
Lennon Chol Broad McBean Buttler Drummond Astbury
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Off to Hawks according to Barrett
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According to Barrett tonight,
Hawks are going after Prestia and threaten to pip Richmond. Clarkson has already met with Prestia when the latter was in Melbourne for medical treatment. Hawthorn planning to use this year and future picks to land both Prestia and the Swans' Tom Mitchell.
Edit: beat me too it, pmac :cheers.
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Those shrewd negotiators at Punt rod missed out again :scream
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stuff our club are stupid
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Might be a blessing in disguise...
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Agree....go after Tomlinson & Crouch now....
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Might be a blessing in disguise...
Commonsense would tell it would be the final nail in Dan and Blairs coffin. But more likely outcome is a contract extension and pay rise with Benny Hill and Peggy Sue in charge.
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Reckon Hardwick will pee in Clarkson's beer at their next BBQ if The Hawks steal him......not a chance. On the other hand Clarkson would be quick to tell Dudwick to pee off if it was the other way around.'it's why one is a 4 time premiership coach and the other is a hack
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i trust emma quayle alot more that barrett
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Deledio to GWS for Pick ~16 and ~32
Pick ~6 and ~16 to GC for pick ~4 and Prestia. Probably wouldn't get it done unless Prestia forced their hand.
We then finish with pick 4, 32 and Prestia
lost Deledio and pick 6
We'll have to be creative. I'm not sure if we'd get that exchange for Prestia, but don't forget we can trade picks from 2017 as well.
Yeah bit of a stretch but just an example of something that could possibly be conjured up. Not sure what concessions ect. they have and any other future picks either GWS or GC have. Also can try and use the academy to our advantage by trading our later picks to earlier ones in the draft.
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According to Barrett tonight,
Hawks are going after Prestia and threaten to pip Richmond. Clarkson has already met with Prestia when the latter was in Melbourne for medical treatment. Hawthorn planning to use this year and future picks to land both Prestia and the Swans' Tom Mitchell.
Edit: beat me too it, pmac :cheers.
He's gone. I just hope we're the club that have got him.
So your Hurley and your making yourself a cup of tea and there's a knock at the front door, you peek out the window and you see Dumma & Lard with a box of chocolates in hand & ones holding a brief case. Just while your contemplating answering the door you get another knock at the back door at you peek out the other window & it's Clarko & Ratten with a box of chocolates & a briefcase in hand.
What do you do?
Same scenario except your Prestia and not Hurley, what do you do?
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LOL
*Our recruiters are poo and stuff up more picks than they get right
*Dont trade away our first pick on a proven player about to enter our prime (such faith in our recruiters is heartwarming)
=> said player is reported to be going elsewhere
* Oh woe is us, Richmond can never get the players we target, even the ones we dont want them to get to start with
:blah :blah :( :scared :whine :whine
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Are you trying to bandy logic with the kids again ?
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Tomlinson yes, we need some size to structure up.
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LOL
*Our recruiters are poo and stuff up more picks than they get right
*Dont trade away our first pick on a proven player about to enter our prime (such faith in our recruiters is heartwarming)
=> said player is reported to be going elsewhere
* Oh woe is us, Richmond can never get the players we target, even the ones we dont want them to get to start with
:blah :blah :( :scared :whine :whine
It's too stuffing funny isn't it :lol
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According to Barrett tonight,
Hawks are going after Prestia and threaten to pip Richmond. Clarkson has already met with Prestia when the latter was in Melbourne for medical treatment. Hawthorn planning to use this year and future picks to land both Prestia and the Swans' Tom Mitchell.
Edit: beat me too it, pmac :cheers.
FMD if they land both Prestia and Mitchell their premiership tilt will never end...
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According to Barrett tonight,
Hawks are going after Prestia and threaten to pip Richmond. Clarkson has already met with Prestia when the latter was in Melbourne for medical treatment. Hawthorn planning to use this year and future picks to land both Prestia and the Swans' Tom Mitchell.
Edit: beat me too it, pmac :cheers.
FMD if they land both Prestia and Mitchell their premiership tilt will never end...
Especially if they can use late first rounders to snare these guys :help
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'We haven't got salary cap room': Clarko bemused by trade talk.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-05/we-havent-got-salary-cap-room-clarko
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Agree....go after Tomlinson & Crouch now....
Tomlinson be attainable whilst keeping deledio
Crouch would be good
The more I think about it the more I think we should steer clear ....
Clean this list out and start to bring in kids.
Kids that are competitive beasts. No more shy, introverted, skinny kids....
Definite trades, delistings and retirements should be- Lids, Ellis, Conca, Griffiths, Grigg, Vickery, Houli, Hunt, Hampson, Moore, Townsend, Marcon, Batchelor, Morris, Chaplin, Maric, McKenzie
Thats potentially at least 7 extra draft picks for this coming draft.
There is a few there that should get us some picks under 30 too.
Which still leaves this side for next year with obviously a lot of new kids to pick from as well.
Hurley should be our main focus in the next 4 weeks. Get someone to sell him the dream and direction that we are about to start.
Short Rance Grimes
McIntosh HURLEY Yarran
Menadue Vlastuin Markov
C. Ellis Elton Lloyd
Rioli Jack Edwards
?? Cotch Martin (we need a decent ruckman)
Miles Lambert C. Moore Castagna
Lennon Chol Broad McBean Buttler Drummond Astbury
Largely agree
Lids would make the team significant stronger over lambert
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From Footy Classified tonight:
Barrett said Gold Coast teammates of Prestia are openly talking about Prestia not being at the Suns next year.
Judd said pick 6 from Richmond is "a bit heavy" for Prestia. You'd expect something else in return on top of getting Prestia.
Judd also said you'd still do it if you believe Hardwick is the right man and back him in. If you don't believe Dimma is the right man then you'd trade players out instead and rebuild from the ground up.
Lloyd wouldn't take Prestia at pick 6 if he was Richmond. Prestia was pick 10 originally and you wouldn't say his value has gone up since then. Richmond's best players are those that they have grown on their own from early picks - Deledio, Cotch, Rance, Martin & Riewoldt - that's their top 5 players right there. Better to instead trade out Deledio, Vickery and Edwards and load up on as many top 20 picks to develop their own players. Chasing players from other clubs hasn't worked for Richmond.
Hutchy said Richmond should be chasing (trading for) pick 15 or thereabouts and use that on Prestia instead of giving up pick 6.
Barrett added that Hawthorn is sniffing around. Clarkson has apparently met with Prestia. Tom Mitchell is the Hawks' main target but Prestia is next on the list. The Hawks' order of preference is Mitchell, Prestia, Couch and O'Meara.
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Bad culture at the Gold Coast.
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The craziest one was Lloyd talking about Hurley.
Barrett said that in talking to his lawyer mates that Hurley could break the contract for next year solely due to Essendon having plead guilty over OH&S failings.
Hutchy then said that wouldn't happen, they'd just do a trade to keep everyone happy.
Lloyd then piped in and said he talked to someone down at Essendon and they want a player of equal ability to Hurley in exchange. Suggested it would be a massive deal and may involve three clubs to get it done. Essendon would hold firm and only trade for someone of the standing of Rance. (He did say that it wouldn't be Rance but someone of that calibre).
Now during the game on the weekend the commentators said that Rance was clearly the best defender in the game.
Then Lloyd spouts this crap that Hurley is equal to him ie the best defender in the comp. Why one of the other deadheads didn't point out this crap is anyone's guess?
Hurley isn't even in the top half dozen key defenders (Rance, Davis, Talia, Reid, Taylor, Lonergan, Birchall, McDonald, Thompson, McKenzie) and has lost a year.
Another stupid thing is the idea that anyone will trade a similar type player. You trade your extras for a shortage. Why trade a Rance for a Hurley? You're back in the same spot or worse.
For me, I'm not interested in Hurley. If you want a tall defender take a Marchbank who may be slightly shorter but is going to be a better player, is behind Davis and wants to come home to Victoria. If Hurley WANTS to come to Richmond, which is doubtful over a Bulldogs, then give them someone like a Lennon. A type who has underperformed and we've got a few of coming through. If Hurley wants to leave then they should have to take less than what he's worth. And still Essendon don't understand why no one wants to deal with them.
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Correct.
All these teams are weak as water giving them picks
Tey are free u dumbasses
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Well the Dons can't really play hardball. If they can't get the deal done, Hurley can just walk for free.
Interesting their thoughts on Prestia. I would have said around about a top 10, seems I was offering overs. If they could get it done for Vickery's compo pick we'll be laughing all the way to the (proverbial) bank.
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Well the Dons can't really play hardball. If they can't get the deal done, Hurley can just walk for free.
He cant walk, he's contracted to the EFC for 2017
He can appeal to have the contract made null and void due to the the supplement saga
But as it stands right now he is contracted and can only change clubs via an agreed trade
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He can walk
He contract is not valid
He's free
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Well the Dons can't really play hardball. If they can't get the deal done, Hurley can just walk for free.
He cant walk, he's contracted to the EFC for 2017
He can appeal to have the contract made null and void due to the the supplement saga
But as it stands right now he is contracted and can only change clubs via an agreed trade
As I said in my last post about Barrett.
Part of any contract is the club will provide a safe working environment.
They pled guilty to a Workcover charge of failing to provide such a workplace and were fined $300,000.
They also have their key medical person still in place even though he failed in his duties.
Regardless of what compensation is paid to the players for a year long suspension they will always carry the loss to their reputation of being drug cheats.
They have also paid the cost of a loss of reputation for not playing during their prime career.
All that is enough to void any contract.
Essendon cannot enforce the contract and will try to get the best trade deal instead.
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As I said in my last post about Barrett.
Part of any contract is the club will provide a safe working environment.
They pled guilty to a Workcover charge of failing to provide such a workplace and were fined $300,000.
They also have their key medical person still in place even though he failed in his duties.
Regardless of what compensation is paid to the players for a year long suspension they will always carry the loss to their reputation of being drug cheats.
They have also paid the cost of a loss of reputation for not playing during their prime career.
All that is enough to void any contract.
Essendon cannot enforce the contract and will try to get the best trade deal instead.
I understand all that. Yes the contract on request /appeal can declared void but the player has to request.
So unless he appeals to the AFL (Grievance Tribunal) to get the contract void he remains contracted for 2017, that was my point. The AFL want to avoid that scenario hence why the Bombers have said publicly any player requests a trade will be granted a trade
He can walk
He contract is not valid
He's free
Please see above
He is contracted, until he appeals to have his contract declared void he remains contracted
So he is not "free"
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He's free
Cause his contract is void
Cause efc a bunch of drug cheating drug cheats
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He will need to take them to court to be released, likelihood is he'd win as well.
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He will need to take them to court to be released, likelihood is he'd win as well.
Absolutely but until he does, he remains contracted
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He's free
Cause his contract is void
Cause efc a bunch of drug cheating drug cheats
I know this is really hard for you to comprehend but right now his contract is not void
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He's free
Cause his contract is void
Cause efc a bunch of drug cheating drug cheats
I know this is really hard for you to comprehend but right now his contract is not void
:lol
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Technically right is the best kind of right isn't it
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I think thats the point. If the option is there, then for all intended purposes he's a free agent, which is exactly my point. Essendon cant play hardball, the ball is firmly not in their court.
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Wp doesn't have the ability to understand he is in reality free. Essentially free. Efc would obviously lose and the contract invalid.
The mind of an accountant.
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Wp doesn't have the ability to understand he is in reality free. Essentially free. Efc would obviously lose and the contract invalid.
The mind of an accountant.
Have you ever heard a lawyer say you will win a case guaranteed? :whistle
Therein lies the difference. WP is talking about what is the star of play right now. You are talking about a hypothetical future state. It may be the case, but there are no guarantees. The AFL for one, will not want this tested as it will definitely set a precedent. :shh
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Wp doesn't have the ability to understand he is in reality free. Essentially free. Efc would obviously lose and the contract invalid.
The mind of an accountant.
Have you ever heard a lawyer say you will win a case guaranteed? :whistle
Therein lies the difference. WP is talking about what is the star of play right now. You are talking about a hypothetical future state. It may be the case, but there are no guarantees. The AFL for one, will not want this tested as it will definitely set a precedent. :shh
Essendon arn't likely to challenge a case they're likely to lose though :whistle :whistle
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They have been injected with possible; cancer causing , future deformed children producing PED
The contract is invalid. (Regardless of what tense you pedantically sorrowful types use).
There is a possibility the sky will turn green tomorrow too , a hypothetical future state. Doesn't mean it's a realistic scenario.
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Wp doesn't have the ability to understand he is in reality free. Essentially free. Efc would obviously lose and the contract invalid.
The mind of an accountant.
Have you ever heard a lawyer say you will win a case guaranteed? :whistle
Therein lies the difference. WP is talking about what is the star of play right now. You are talking about a hypothetical future state. It may be the case, but there are no guarantees. The AFL for one, will not want this tested as it will definitely set a precedent. :shh
Essendon arn't likely to challenge a case they're likely to lose though :whistle :whistle
Why? Seems like their insurance company has been paying for everything else! It is also up to Hurley to make the move to take it to court. What will his legal counsel tell him? They cannot say he will win for certain. The usual stance is that "you have a very good case here. Then, of course, there is no guarantee of victory…".
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They have been injected with possible; cancer causing , future deformed children producing PED
The contract is invalid. (Regardless of what tense you pedantically sorrowful types use).
There is a possibility the sky will turn green tomorrow too , a hypothetical future state. Doesn't mean it's a realistic scenario.
And yet if Essendon want to play hard ball, they can say they never forced anyone to take any of this. It was up to every individual player to decide what went into their body. Players like Zaharakis decided not to take the injections and were not punished…..
There is also no evidence that these drugs cause cancer. The onus is on the player to prove that they do.
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They have been injected with possible; cancer causing , future deformed children producing PED
The contract is invalid. (Regardless of what tense you pedantically sorrowful types use).
There is a possibility the sky will turn green tomorrow too , a hypothetical future state. Doesn't mean it's a realistic scenario.
And yet if Essendon want to play hard ball, they can say they never forced anyone to take any of this. It was up to every individual player to decide what went into their body. Players like Zaharakis decided not to take the injections and were not punished…..
There is also no evidence that these drugs cause cancer. The onus is on the player to prove that they do.
The contract says he has to be in a safe work place. Regardless of "never forcing anyone"
Ask WPs legal-eagles
A class action lawsuit claims the parties behind the anti-aging pill TA-65 are pushing the non-prescription drug on consumers with bogus claims about its effectiveness and safety, and hides the fact that it can cause tumors and cancer in people who use
The Defendants also failed to warn the public that opinions have been expressed in the scientific community that a year of continuous telomerase activation – such as through using TA-65 – could allow pre-malignant lesions in the human body to expand into larger tumors that then could mutate into fatal malignancies on their own, even after the drug is no longer taken
http://www.topclassactions.com/laws...-65-deceptive-marketing-class-action-lawsuit#
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Didn't the rugby kid dank got his hands on die
Richmond can get hurley free. No draft picks. That is the point.
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God I wish I could move to la la land where every hypothetical is guaranteed and people poo out rainbows
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There are different types of hypotheticals.
There is a chance the sun will send out a bean of light that wipe out earth next Thursday. Te chances are a small.
There is a chance hurley will be a chance to get at the cost of zero draft picks. Chances are high
I wish I could live in a land of less pedantic boring gits but we can all get what we want
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What if there were no hypothetical situations?
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They have been injected with possible; cancer causing , future deformed children producing PED
The contract is invalid. (Regardless of what tense you pedantically sorrowful types use).
There is a possibility the sky will turn green tomorrow too , a hypothetical future state. Doesn't mean it's a realistic scenario.
And yet if Essendon want to play hard ball, they can say they never forced anyone to take any of this. It was up to every individual player to decide what went into their body. Players like Zaharakis decided not to take the injections and were not punished…..
There is also no evidence that these drugs cause cancer. The onus is on the player to prove that they do.
The contract says he has to be in a safe work place. Regardless of "never forcing anyone"
Ask WPs legal-eagles
A class action lawsuit claims the parties behind the anti-aging pill TA-65 are pushing the non-prescription drug on consumers with bogus claims about its effectiveness and safety, and hides the fact that it can cause tumors and cancer in people who use
The Defendants also failed to warn the public that opinions have been expressed in the scientific community that a year of continuous telomerase activation – such as through using TA-65 – could allow pre-malignant lesions in the human body to expand into larger tumors that then could mutate into fatal malignancies on their own, even after the drug is no longer taken
http://www.topclassactions.com/laws...-65-deceptive-marketing-class-action-lawsuit#
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Didn't the rugby kid dank got his hands on die
Richmond can get hurley free. No draft picks. That is the point.
"Could allow" not "definitely allow".
Eating Rice Bubbles "could allow" it too. The onus is on you to prove that it does I would have thought.
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Well, I can't sit here listening to you two argue all day, I am off to pinch off a rainbow
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Could allow implies there is a strong possibility the contract would remain valid.
99% the contract will be proven void
Most of you simpletons understand this deep down yet being disingenuous for the sake of floggery
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Could allow implies there is a strong possibility the contract would remain valid.
99% the contract will be proven void
Most of you simpletons understand this deep down yet being disingenuous for the sake of floggery
Don't sugar coat it deary, tell us what you really feel :lol
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Wp doesn't have the ability to understand he is in reality free. Essentially free. Efc would obviously lose and the contract invalid.
The mind of an accountant.
Have you ever heard a lawyer say you will win a case guaranteed? :whistle
Therein lies the difference. WP is talking about what is the star of play right now. You are talking about a hypothetical future state. It may be the case, but there are no guarantees. The AFL for one, will not want this tested as it will definitely set a precedent. :shh
Essendon arn't likely to challenge a case they're likely to lose though :whistle :whistle
Why? Seems like their insurance company has been paying for everything else! It is also up to Hurley to make the move to take it to court. What will his legal counsel tell him? They cannot say he will win for certain. The usual stance is that "you have a very good case here. Then, of course, there is no guarantee of victory…".
I felt the sarcasm was pretty obvious but JIC I was actually being facetious.
I hear your point - He still actually has to challenge the contract in order to void it and therefore his current status still ties him to Essendon and requires a trade to move.
My point is that Essendon cannot play hardball as if this is exactly the case. They're not going to get a Rance type player in return. If they decide to become difficult, then a St.Kilda or a Bulldogs can pull out of negotiations and see if Hurley is willing to walk for nothing.
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They have been injected with possible; cancer causing , future deformed children producing PED
The contract is invalid. (Regardless of what tense you pedantically sorrowful types use).
There is a possibility the sky will turn green tomorrow too , a hypothetical future state. Doesn't mean it's a realistic scenario.
And yet if Essendon want to play hard ball, they can say they never forced anyone to take any of this. It was up to every individual player to decide what went into their body. Players like Zaharakis decided not to take the injections and were not punished…..
There is also no evidence that these drugs cause cancer. The onus is on the player to prove that they do.
The contract says he has to be in a safe work place. Regardless of "never forcing anyone"
Ask WPs legal-eagles
A class action lawsuit claims the parties behind the anti-aging pill TA-65 are pushing the non-prescription drug on consumers with bogus claims about its effectiveness and safety, and hides the fact that it can cause tumors and cancer in people who use
The Defendants also failed to warn the public that opinions have been expressed in the scientific community that a year of continuous telomerase activation – such as through using TA-65 – could allow pre-malignant lesions in the human body to expand into larger tumors that then could mutate into fatal malignancies on their own, even after the drug is no longer taken
http://www.topclassactions.com/laws...-65-deceptive-marketing-class-action-lawsuit#
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Didn't the rugby kid dank got his hands on die
Richmond can get hurley free. No draft picks. That is the point.
The rugby league player - Jon Mannah - that died had fought and beaten cancer and got the all clear to return to playing football.
However the disease returned and was aggressive and he couldn't beat it this time.
There were newspaper reports linking his death to the peptides given to the Cronulla players. Dank sued the paper stating that Mannah did not partake in the peptide program as he refused due to his health concerns.
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But Stalin found an article in the deep obscurity of the internet that had a photo and phony quote and everything. Surely it was telling the truth?
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I hear Ellis' wife is good mates with Prestia's daughter. She should be getting in her ear
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After the AFL tribunal found the Essendon 34 not guilty, the AFL's own CEO had this to say:
"Given the evidence the AFL collected, the ASADA interim report and Essendon's own report, it was clear breaches of the AFL's rules had occurred.
"The Essendon Football Club in 2013 accepted that it had engaged in practices that exposed players to risks to their health and safety as well as the unacceptable risk of using substances that were prohibited by the AFL anti-doping code and the world anti-doping code." McLachlan said he felt for the players but stopped short of suggesting they deserved an apology.
Secret report finds Essendon's drugs record-keeping was 'deplorable' (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/secret-report-finds-essendons-drugs-recordkeeping-was-deplorable-20150331-1mc8hi.html/)
Its all up to Hurley.
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Could allow implies there is a strong possibility the contract would remain valid.
99% the contract will be proven void
Most of you simpletons understand this deep down yet being disingenuous for the sake of floggery
Are you forgetting or ignoring the fact that Hurley has to decide? You're basing our stats all on if he decides he wants to leave
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Height: 1.75 m
Weight: 82 kg
Is not worth pick 6 in fact he wouldn't make a top 10 pick. He is a risk with his knee problems & we dont need a midfielder of that small size. We need a taller strong hip good mid to allow players first go at the ball. You have to also have the ruckman to be able to tap it too your players :snidegrin. Prestia is too small & too lite it would be like having another Miles out there or another Titch :lol
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Height: 1.75 m
Weight: 82 kg
Is not worth pick 6 in fact he wouldn't make a top 10 pick. He is a risk with his knee problems & we dont need a midfielder of that small size. We need a taller strong hip good mid to allow players first go at the ball. You have to also have the ruckman to be able to tap it too your players :snidegrin. Prestia is too small & too lite it would be like having another Miles out there or another Titch :lol
I'd have a midfield full of Miles' before a team full of Grigg's. Big bodies are good and all but give me talent before size. Oh, and I wouldn't say he has "knee problems"
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God. The crap I missed.
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Prestia...
Suns expect Dion Prestia to leave
Andrew Hamilton, Jeremy Pierce,
The Courier-Mail
15 August 8:00pm
GOLD Coast are planning for life after Dion Prestia.
The Suns are still to receive official word from Prestia about his intentions next year but insiders have told The Courier-Mail that the midfielder has told teammates he is leaving.
Richmond is his preferred destination.
Senior officials are resigned to losing the ninth pick from the 2010 draft but say they won’t lose hope until he or his manager makes it official.
The emergence of Touk Miler as a bona fide midfielder would soften the blow if Prestia did decide to walk out after six seasons.
While they accept he is exploring his options and has probably had contact with rival clubs, Gold Coast officials believe he would still weigh up a future elsewhere against one at a full strength Suns side next year before making a final decision.
Richmond’s future certainly looks no brighter than the Suns and the tenure of coach Damian Hardwick remains up in the air.
Football manager Marcus Ashcroft said the club had heard the speculation about Prestia but remained in the dark.
“All we can go on is what we have been told and that is he has not made a decision,’’ Ashcroft said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-expect-dion-prestia-to-leave-the-suns-at-the-end-of-the-season/news-story/b81c1f2f76801c787f5639daba791aba
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https://twitter.com/TheTigerArmyAFL/status/765128030297595904
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp5H4KzUMAARj0D.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TheTigerArmyAFL/status/765128030297595904
Too slow...
Just posted the link in the trade thread! ;D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp5H4KzUMAARj0D.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TheTigerArmyAFL/status/765128030297595904
Too slow...
Just posted the link in the trade thread! ;D
One-up on one-eyed!
Looking ever-the-more likely. I'm happy. Can we get it done without forfeiting our first-rounder is the big question?
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Looking ever-the-more likely. I'm happy. Can we get it done without forfeiting our first-rounder is the big question?
We need to trade in more picks.
Can land Prestia and keep our 1st rounder if we are daring enough at the trade table.
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https://twitter.com/TheTigerArmyAFL/status/765128030297595904
Too slow...
Just posted the link in the trade thread! ;D
Quick draw YaBB :thumbsup :cheers.
I've moved your Prestia article link to this thread if that's okay.
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Looking ever-the-more likely. I'm happy. Can we get it done without forfeiting our first-rounder is the big question?
We need to trade in more picks.
Can land Prestia and keep our 1st rounder if we are daring enough at the trade table.
Out: Deledio, Third Rounder, GWS First Rounder
In: Prestia, GWS First rounder, GWS Second Rounder
(GWS 1st rounder is same pick)
Thoughts?
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Looking ever-the-more likely. I'm happy. Can we get it done without forfeiting our first-rounder is the big question?
We need to trade in more picks.
Can land Prestia and keep our 1st rounder if we are daring enough at the trade table.
we all know what to do...
Trade B Ellis, Houli and Conca. Griff too but our big man stocks are so thin, we really can't, especially when Vickery will most likely go as a FA. Edwards and Grigg too.
But just expect the favourites to hang on. :banghead
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https://twitter.com/TheTigerArmyAFL/status/765128030297595904
Too slow...
Just posted the link in the trade thread! ;D
Quick draw YaBB :thumbsup :cheers.
I've moved your Prestia article link to this thread if that's okay.
Of course oh mighty Cyclops! ;D :bow :cheers
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Looking ever-the-more likely. I'm happy. Can we get it done without forfeiting our first-rounder is the big question?
We need to trade in more picks.
Can land Prestia and keep our 1st rounder if we are daring enough at the trade table.
we all know what to do...
Trade B Ellis, Houli and Conca. Griff too but our big man stocks are so thin, we really can't, especially when Vickery will most likely go as a FA. Edwards and Grigg too.
But just expect the favourites to hang on. :banghead
We will get compo for Ty. 2nd rounder easily
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Agree , thought Bachar was very good yesterday
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
I'm not going on what I saw yesterday. I'm going on what I've seen over the last three seasons including 3 elimination final debacles..... :whistle
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Agree , thought Bachar was very good yesterday
Another of the plethora whom can play a good game....for about 15% of the season.
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Agree , thought Bachar was very good yesterday
Another of the plethora whom can play a good game....for about 15% of the season.
Exactly. Our problem isn't that we have players who cannot play. It is we have too many players who are way too inconsistent. We need to replace those with players who have more consistency. Players that can execute under extreme pressure and make the right decisions in those situations. That is what we lack and the players I named are the main culprits.
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and dimmer thinks we have an iceberg.
Sadly it's an iceberg of Shitmen
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
I'm not going on what I saw yesterday. I'm going on what I've seen over the last three seasons including 3 elimination final debacles..... :whistle
Wouldn't trade him either but until he's depth rather than one of our better players we are going no where
Saying that, he at least can live with himself after the Port final. Was one of few who actually tried to give us something.
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So it looks as though this is happening for our first pick - all I'll say is I really do hope theyve done due dilligence on his knee - 2 interrupted seasons in a row now. I wont accept another yarran type debacle where we trade for a ready made player and he's not "cherry ripe"
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So it looks as though this is happening for our first pick - all I'll say is I really do hope theyve done due dilligence on his knee - 2 interrupted seasons in a row now. I wont accept another yarran type debacle where we trade for a ready made player and he's not "cherry ripe"
Peggy said that the board must ratify taking away a first draft pick. This is what Peggy said at a recent President's dinner. So they'll be sticking their neck out too if this happens.
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Ball use is extremely good??????????????????????
Did you actually watch the game?
Ball use by foot is average at best. (his kicking this season has deteriorated)
Still very reluctant to put his head over a ball.
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We'll be daring during draft week. Heard we are offering up Batchelor.
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We'll be daring during draft week. Heard we are offering up Batchelor.
Whoa! :gobdrop
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Ball use is extremely good??????????????????????
Did you actually watch the game?
Ball use by foot is average at best. (his kicking this season has deteriorated)
Still very reluctant to put his head over a ball.
Pretty sure he was #1 for clangers in the AFL before his injury.
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Ball use is extremely good??????????????????????
Did you actually watch the game?
Ball use by foot is average at best. (his kicking this season has deteriorated)
Still very reluctant to put his head over a ball.
Pretty sure he was #1 for clangers in the AFL before his injury.
But he was elite at clangers... :shh
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After what I seen yesterday
Wouldn't trade Houli
We are much better when he plays
Ball use and run is extremely good
Ball use is extremely good??????????????????????
Did you actually watch the game?
Ball use by foot is average at best. (his kicking this season has deteriorated)
Still very reluctant to put his head over a ball.
Pretty sure he was #1 for clangers in the AFL before his injury.
Correct
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FACT
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Trains good but
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Tom Mitchell wants to remain at the Swans.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/tom-mitchell-says-the-lure-of-a-victorian-homecoming-wont-be-enough-to-prize-him-from-sydney/news-story/c656e3b29cfd44a1839a89697c3fc4fa
So that may mean the Hawks will go harder after Prestia now.
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Tom Mitchell wants to remain at the Swans.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/tom-mitchell-says-the-lure-of-a-victorian-homecoming-wont-be-enough-to-prize-him-from-sydney/news-story/c656e3b29cfd44a1839a89697c3fc4fa
So that may mean the Hawks will go harder after Prestia now.
Currently the Hawks have no cap room to fit Prestia. Of course one of their champs may retire at the end of the year....
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Prestia is injury prone, steer clear please
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Are we really thinking as supporters that this is our big fish?
I don't believe he is the one that is going to win us a flag or get us in final.
I just don't think he is great, he will be good inclusion but not GREAT. And including his injuries that have stopped him playing this year I'm just a touch defensive I guess on recruiting him.
I've given up being positive on any one that we will recruit any way which probably doesn't help.
Where is Yarran FFS, any kind of update from the club would be nice!
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FACT
STFU
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Oh look....
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It's a done deal and has been verbally done for some time.
Just waiting on season to end to start negotiating a deal with GC.
They'll be asking for our first round pick but won't be getting it....
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:clapping Will add so much to our mid structure whilst adding class. Edwards to GWS for a first round pick or a player?..... I hope not but it is floating around ATM.
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You hope we don't trade Edwards for a first rounder or GWS kid? Are you drunk?
Jeez...take it and stuffing run like the wind!
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You hope we don't trade Edwards for a first rounder or GWS kid? Are you drunk?
Jeez...take it and stuffing run like the wind!
The same wind that Cotchin should be traded/delisted because of?
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You hope we don't trade Edwards for a first rounder or GWS kid? Are you drunk?
Jeez...take it and stuffing run like the wind!
The same wind that Cotchin should be traded/delisted because of?
No - this one's a lot less likely to blow up in our faces....
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Gold Coast Suns coach Rodney Eade says Dion Prestia is likely to request a trade for family reasons
Tom Morris
FOX SPORTS
August 18, 2016 1:07pm
GOLD Coast Suns coach Rodney Eade has all but conceded Dion Prestia will not be at the club next year.
The 23-year-old is out of contract at season’s end and appears almost certain to request a trade home to Victoria.
”All the noise is that it looks like it (a request to be traded) is going to happen,” Eade said on Thursday.
“We’ve spoken to him and he’s sort of indicated family is a strong pull. I suppose like (Patrick) Dangerfield when he went back to Geelong.
“That’s a strong driver for him.”
But a trade is not as simple as it sounds, with Eade confirming the club would seek fair reparation for the former No. 9 draft pick.
“If that (a trade) happens, that’s fine,” he said.
“We will just drive a hard bargain to get compensation for him.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gold-coast/gold-coast-suns-coach-rodney-eade-says-dion-prestia-is-likely-to-request-a-trade-for-family-reasons/news-story/7a9cf3e3285fc4c779a26ec240a522ed
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He is not worth pick 6.
Not even close IMO.
Player swap only- Lennon maybe? Hardwick is here for 2 more years and refuses to play him regularly so may as well trade him.
We need to make some serious changes at this footy club-
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He is not worth pick 6.
Not even close IMO.
Player swap only- Lennon maybe? Hardwick is here for 2 more years and refuses to play him regularly so may as well trade him.
We need to make some serious changes at this footy club-
We will keep pick 6 if that's our pick at the end of next week and still get Prestia :whistle
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Prestia has nominated Richmond as the club he wants to play for next year.
Other clubs have been told he wants to play for Richmond. Hawthorn was the under bidder.
Suns will want Richmond's pick 6 but the Tigers will try to offer a later first round pick. How we do that is unknown at this stage.
Source: Damian Barrett on the Footy Show.
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THE BIG FISH
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How we do that is unknown at this stage.
Source: Damian Barrett on the Footy Show.
Quite easily i would have thought, be bold trade a Dimma favourite for a late first rounder
Ellis B or Edwards will get you that sort of pick...it ain't that hard
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Am I the only one not keen on Prestia ? Injury riddled, small mid. Not what we need imo. Could be an upgrade on bellis or conca but still, nothing special
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Can play
No superstar but can play
At least he wants to come to Richmond, which is a pleasant change
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No shortage of non super stars keen on Richmond.
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Prestia has nominated Richmond as the club he wants to play for next year.
Other clubs have been told he wants to play for Richmond. Hawthorn was the under bidder.
Suns will want Richmond's pick 6 but the Tigers will try to offer a later first round pick. How we do that is unknown at this stage.
Source: Damian Barrett on the Footy Show.
some BOLD trading will get it done
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Would hope we're at least perusing the GWS list for some nuggets....place is brimming with gold that won't cost the farm...although Moneyblair would probably still manage to only find more pyrite like Townsend...
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Am I the only one not keen on Prestia ? Injury riddled, small mid. Not what we need imo. Could be an upgrade on bellis or conca but still, nothing special
Just think of it as a straight swap for Ellis or Conca or Edwards. Win win*
*If they do that
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Tigers win race for gun Sun Dion Prestia
Damian Barrett
AFL.com.au
August 19, 2016
UNCONTRACTED Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia has nominated Richmond as his preferred club for 2017 and beyond.
Other clubs which had been bidding for Prestia learnt this week they had failed and that the Tigers had won the race.
It is believed Hawthorn was the under bidder.
Gold Coast has known for the past fortnight the 23-year-old would not be continuing his six-year tenure at the club beyond this season.
Based on current ladder positions, Richmond's first-round pick would be No.6, which the Suns will use as a starting point for negotiations.
Prestia averaged just under 26 disposals 14 games this year before a knee injury in round 16 ended his season early.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-18/tigers-win-race-for-gun-sun-dion-prestia
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https://www.facebook.com/AFLTRDON/photos/a.567080530025257.1073741828.567022600031050/1156385727761398/?type=3&theater
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FMD some people, if we can get Prestia and it doesnt cost pick 6 its a huge win
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I like the fact that he's said he'll go to the preseason draft if a trade doesn't get done with us. Gives us some leverage. Need to look to downgrade pick 6 for a lower rd 1 pick plus a good player.
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Musn't give away pick 6 in case Ainsworth or Brodie slide.
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Downgrade can be done with GWS for Steele
Looking like a good haul.
In: Prestia, Steele, Crozier, Cloke, Pick 24 (Vickery compo)
Out: pick 6, Vickery, Batchelor & Conca
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Musn't give away pick 6 in case Ainsworth or Brodie slide.
1st round - midget wog
2nd rounder - Townsend
3rd - trav cloke
:gotigers
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Downgrade can be done with GWS for Steele
Looking like a good haul.
In: Prestia, Steele, Crozier, Cloke, Pick 24 (Vickery compo)
Out: pick 6, Vickery, Batchelor & Conca
I'd like to keep 6 and I honestly think we could and still get a later pick for Prestia. I think it was WP that made a good point about trading one of the favourites for a middle rung 1st round pick and then using that for Prestia (or hell, even a straight swap if they so choose). Nice and easy.
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yep
conca - crozier
lennon or equivalent pick for prestia
Ellis or equivalent pick for Patton or Tomlinson(reckon both could get done for a mid to late first rounder)
Keep pick 6 in case there is a slider
keep vickery compo
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Musn't give away pick 6 in case Ainsworth or Brodie slide.
1st round - midget wog
2nd rounder - Townsend
3rd - trav cloke
:gotigers
Can never have enough wogs.
We already got Townsend.
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great news lets hope the club can do the right think for dion he will be good makes yah wonder what may happen with miles thu... corchin martin dion strong mid very strong ..
tomilosn is the one we would try and pinch or even steele...
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great news lets hope the club can do the right think for dion he will be good makes yah wonder what may happen with miles thu... corchin martin dion strong mid very strong ..
tomilosn is the one we would try and pinch or even steele...
Miles will hopefully maintain his spot and push another dud further down the pecking order.
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It's amazing how many idiots don't want Prestia because of his height alone.
Bloke is a gun player and very tough inside mid.
I'd like to keep pick 6 as well personally, but as I've said repeatedly - if we can't guarantee that we'll nail the pick then grabbing an 8-year A-grade player is surely the next best thing.
Would happily offer Deledio as part of the trade. He'd probably like playing alongside Lynch and Wright. Otherwise we could offer pick 6 and something else for Prestia and Wright...
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yeah Dion is a gun..but if i was dimma i would play lids at full forward next year...all year providing he is fit.
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Musn't give away pick 6 in case Ainsworth or Brodie slide.
Would love McGrath. He killed Ainsworth in the champs.
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Dion Prestia will sign five-year contract at Richmond if Gold Coast and Tigers agree to a trade
Jake Niall
Prestia, who has long been favoured to join Richmond, has confirmed the Tigers as his preferred destination in recent days, with his management informing other clubs that Prestia had nominated Richmond.
While the Suns and Tigers have not yet discussed the terms of any trade — and cannot lodge a deal until October — it is understood that the Tigers are willing to part with either their first draft pick this year (currently No. 6) or to give up next year’s first choice.
The Tigers will wait to see what the Suns demand and could even consider a deal involving a Richmond player. If the Suns snared Richmond’s first pick, they would have three picks inside the top 10, having picks No. 5 and 9 based on current ladder
Suns have indicated they will play hard ball in negotiations over Prestia, saying that the Adam Treloar deal — in which Collingwood gave up two first-rounders and received a second-round pick back from the Giants — had set the standard for Prestia and Jaeger O’Meara, should the latter out-of-contract midfielder also decide to leave.
Some observers have questioned Prestia’s choice of Richmond, given the club’s struggles this season, but Prestia — who wanted to return to Melbourne — is believed to have taken a long-term view, bearing in mind that he is still just 23-years-old.
A number of Melbourne clubs had registered an interest in the out of contract Prestia, whom the Suns had suspected was leaving for some time.
Richmond believes Tyrone Vickery, a free agent, has found a club and is likely to leave at season’s end. The Tigers are expected to re-sign Ben Griffiths, who has been preferred over Vickery lately as a forward supporting Jack Riewoldt.
Richmond, which has undertaken a searching review of its football operations, is set to make a significant number of changes to both its playing list and football staff in the post-season, but has said senior coach Damien Hardwick will keep his job in 2017.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dion-prestia-will-sign-fiveyear-contract-at-richmond-if-gold-coast-and-tigers-agree-to-a-trade/news-story/0895aea6667e3742f357de409068d8b4
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While the Suns and Tigers have not yet discussed the terms of any trade — and cannot lodge a deal until October — it is understood that the Tigers are willing to part with either their first draft pick this year (currently No. 6) or to give up next year’s first choice.
:banghead :help :banghead :help :banghead :help :banghead
.... :gotigers
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How we do that is unknown at this stage.
Source: Damian Barrett on the Footy Show.
Quite easily i would have thought, be bold trade a Dimma favourite for a late first rounder
Ellis B or Edwards will get you that sort of pick...it ain't that hard
Shed to crows or power
Bellen to anyone else
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How we do that is unknown at this stage.
Source: Damian Barrett on the Footy Show.
Quite easily i would have thought, be bold trade a Dimma favourite for a late first rounder
Ellis B or Edwards will get you that sort of pick...it ain't that hard
Shed to crows or power
Bellen to anyone else
GWS showing keen interest in Edwards.
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I would rather stuff of Houli, Grigg, Chaplin before any of the youth but you know..... Richmond Recycle kings and all :shh
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I would rather stuff of Houli, Grigg, Chaplin before any of the youth but you know..... Richmond Recycle kings and all :shh
I think Chaplin is safe....
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I'm not confident "DanTheMan" can get the best deal for us.
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I would rather stuff of Houli, Grigg, Chaplin before any of the youth but you know..... Richmond Recycle kings and all :shh
I think Chaplin is safe....
There is a rumour Chaplin is retiring apparently
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I would rather stuff of Houli, Grigg, Chaplin before any of the youth but you know..... Richmond Recycle kings and all :shh
I think Chaplin is safe....
He is safely perched next to Dimma next season
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Coach Chaplin's instructions to our backs: "When in doubt - play on..."
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I would not give up our first round pick!
Give player and our Compo Pick (25) we will get for Vickery.
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...which will get us a hearty "go & get stuffed" from Gold Coast, followed by a cheerful "thank you very much" from Essendon as he walks into the PSD...
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700k per season
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Prestia has changed his mind and has nominated any one but the RFC
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Prestia has changed his mind and has nominated any one but the RFC
Last second nominates Collingwood.... :shh
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pick 6 for prestia would be total madness.
There is no doubt, absolutely none what so ever, that our recruiters will find not only a better player in the draft, but one that can step straight into our midfield with this pick.
If we miss on prestia then so be it, but it is vital we keep pick 6, no matter what, and let our recruiters weave their magic
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The smart move will be to hand over next years first pick. If they are that sure we will improve then pick 6 2016 >>>pick 14 2017. The other point is with Patrick Naish coming along we will only have to give away a second rounder for him as we won't have a first rounder. :shh
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pick 6 for prestia would be total madness.
There is no doubt, absolutely none what so ever, that our recruiters will find not only a better player in the draft, but one that can step straight into our midfield with this pick.
If we miss on prestia then so be it, but it is vital we keep pick 6, no matter what, and let our recruiters weave their magic
100% Correct!
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absolutely.
glad i am not the the only one who can see just how good our recruiters are and have absolute faith in them
:cheers
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There's another Conca out there just waiting in the wings for FJ's midas touch.... :clapping
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There's another Conca out there just waiting in the wings for FJ's midas touch.... :clapping
Ben Ainsworth is the target & wants to come to Richmond
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The smart move will be to hand over next years first pick. If they are that sure we will improve then pick 6 2016 >>>pick 14 2017. The other point is with Patrick Naish coming along we will only have to give away a second rounder for him as we won't have a first rounder. :shh
Sounds good in theory.
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It's amazing how many idiots don't want Prestia because of his height alone.
I agree, it's like saying you wouldn't take Caleb Daniel either. Or we should never have played Miles
I'd like to keep pick 6 as well personally, but as I've said repeatedly - if we can't guarantee that we'll nail the pick then grabbing an 8-year A-grade player is surely the next best thing.
Would happily offer Deledio as part of the trade. He'd probably like playing alongside Lynch and Wright.
Wait, surely you aren't saying Deledio and pick 6 for Prestia? :gobdrop
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The smart move will be to hand over next years first pick. If they are that sure we will improve then pick 6 2016 >>>pick 14 2017. The other point is with Patrick Naish coming along we will only have to give away a second rounder for him as we won't have a first rounder. :shh
Not sure it works that way anymore. Need to use multiple picks to get the "points". Without knowing where he'll be ranked and how the points system fully works it might cost us our 2nd and 3rd rounder for example
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It's amazing how many idiots don't want Prestia because of his height alone.
I agree, it's like saying you wouldn't take Caleb Daniel either. Or we should never have played Miles
I'd like to keep pick 6 as well personally, but as I've said repeatedly - if we can't guarantee that we'll nail the pick then grabbing an 8-year A-grade player is surely the next best thing.
Would happily offer Deledio as part of the trade. He'd probably like playing alongside Lynch and Wright.
Wait, surely you aren't saying Deledio and pick 6 for Prestia? :gobdrop
Of course not. One or the other. I would rather trade Deledio for Prestia than pick 6 to be honest. I don't trust our recruitment team enough to use pick 6 well, but would rather keep it regardless in hope that we can not stuff it up.
Just saying Lids is cooked IMO. If he can play 50 games over the next three years he should consider himself lucky the way he's been going.
Poor guy deserves a chance at success and if he has currency I would consider trading him - better than having him warm the bench with Yarran half the year.
Pick 6 + Deledio to GCS would have to include something very useful coming our way with Prestia. Such as Peter Wright and maybe a ruckman or a KPD.
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The smart move will be to hand over next years first pick. If they are that sure we will improve then pick 6 2016 >>>pick 14 2017. The other point is with Patrick Naish coming along we will only have to give away a second rounder for him as we won't have a first rounder. :shh
No way YBB, next year is loaded with KP talent,I'd rather we held next years. Pretty sure we'll be in a similar position this time next year with one difference, hardwick will be sacked and we'll all be lamenting another wasted year. Can you imagine the uproar if we had traded next years first pick on top of that? :lol
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If we could get GWS picks 14 and 15 for Lids and ontrade one of those for prestia i reckon it would be a good outcome. Gws will have a heap of picks but this year will pay overs for premium talent for a tilt at a premiership.
Praying for a early second round compensation for Vickery.
Early second round for ellis (i thought he was worth pick 30 but apparently others rate him higher) and same for edwards.
FO conca for a pick around 30. West Coast have pick 31 atm.
Ins would leave us something like
Pick 6, 14, Prestia, 20, 21,22,31 and 42.
Gets rid of lids (old and injury prone) edwards (hot and cold, and starting to get on) and squibs Ellis and Conca.
Into the starting 22 side comes Prestia, McIntosh, Menadue, C Ellis. Debut the picks when ready.
Still hoping for a bit more of a clean out but not sure we will go harder than retirements plus Batch.
Basically my best case scenario outcome id wake up with half a chub if it went down this way .
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Old an injury prone but a lot better than Menadue / Mcintosh ... Going by yesterday c Ellis is a fair way behind too
What's the plan rebuild or try to win the flag inside the rance-time frame?
If option two, the side if a lot better with deledio than without
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Old an injury prone but a lot better than Menadue / Mcintosh ... Going by yesterday c Ellis is a fair way behind too
What's the plan rebuild or try to win the flag inside the rance-time frame?
If option two, the side if a lot better with deledio than without
I don't think we should trade anyone.
Think we look really good for next year with natural improvement and all.
Just you wait and see!!
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I'm really looking forward to sing this "human metaball" as they call him play along side Grigg, Houli, Hampson at the famous G in front of 40 odd thousand. Should be a jolly ol treat
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Will enable us to go sideways with more conviction
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Will enable us to go sideways with more conviction
Possibly, my favourite man over of Damien to watch is when we chip it sideways back and fourth and as the opposition forwards close in we get closer towards our goals till we fumble (give me a little fright) then eventually concede a behind. Personally there's nothing more exciting
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It's about time forcings back moved beyond the school playground and local footy training and started being played at a professional level for the paying public.....said no-one ever....
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Tigers tight-lipped on Prestia interest
By Jason Phelan
AAP
August 26, 2016, 5:55 pm
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick admits being a fan of Dion Prestia but he's tight-lipped about the Tigers' interest in the Gold Coast star.
Prestia has reportedly nominated Richmond as his destination of choice during the trade period, with some suggestion he has even discussed terms of a contract.
"We don't comment on those matters. He's an incredible player but we'll just wait and see what happens over the course of the next couple of months," Hardwick said on Friday.
"We're a big club so people always link good things and bad things to us at stages, but we'll just control what we can control.
"Our list management and trade philosophy we'll keep in house. We're always looking to better our list, but so are 17 other clubs in the competition."
Securing Prestia's signature would be a huge boost for a club in dire need of one after a disappointing season that followed on from their unsuccessful attempt to lure former Greater Western Sydney star Adam Treloar.
A busy off-season looms for Hardwick and his list management team.
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/a/32451949/afl-richmond-tigers-tight-lipped-on-prestia-interest/#page1
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Suns have said they want a like for like player trade for Prestia rather than a pick.
Im thinking Lennon and a swap of picks? I'd prefer Ellis, but realistically he's not going anywhere unfortunately
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
Lennon may go on to be a good player somewhere but it won't be at Richmond. Time to cut our losses with him.
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
Lennon may go on to be a good player somewhere but it won't be at Richmond. Time to cut our losses with him.
we gotta give up something if we want to keep pick 6.....
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First things first.
1. Get a better list management team.
2. Get a better recruiting team.
3. Get a better development team.
4. Get a better coach and assistants.
5. Get a better footy manager.
Then maybe we can get somewhere and not consistently make the same stupid mistakes.
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Neil Balme might be avaiable very soon.... :shh
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
Lennon may go on to be a good player somewhere but it won't be at Richmond. Time to cut our losses with him.
we gotta give up something if we want to keep pick 6.....
Deledio
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B.Ellis
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
not when you are giving a player who swans about like he thinks he was born with entitlements and is far from showing he has what it takes to make it, for a bloke who goes hard, has proven he can play at the level and gives his all.
Sure some will argue that Lennon hasnt had the opportunities that prestia has, but from what i have seen recently that would be due to the difference in their effort
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The issue I have with Prestia is he's played just 50% of games (22 from a possible 44) in the past two years. No way do you give up a first rounder who hasn't played close to a full season since 2014. Swapping Conca or Lennon for Prestia would actually be a fair swap - injury-prone footballer for injury-prone footballer. Can we actually chase someone who isn't injured most of the time?! :P.
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
not when you are giving a player who swans about like he thinks he was born with entitlements and is far from showing he has what it takes to make it, for a bloke who goes hard, has proven he can play at the level and gives his all.
Sure some will argue that Lennon hasnt had the opportunities that prestia has, but from what i have seen recently that would be due to the difference in their effort
The one AFL game you've seen recently on TV? You are aware he's missed half the season with an injured shoulder and the entire pre-season with glandular fever? How do you reckon his tank would be after that?
I'd suggest that after today that GC group of players might have a somewhat easier task changing Prestia's mind anyway....or he'll just choose another Melbourne club instead...
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injury, games played, whatever has nothing to do with effort.
I'm not talking about someone having trouble adjusting to the pace of the game as they step up, but someone giving hampson/vickery type effort.
standing back watching rather than hitting the pill.
standing by watching opponents run away with the ball.
standing by watching rather than working hard to get to the contest to help a team mate
these things are are non negotiable and i dont give compensation because of someone percieved natural ability.
didnt you make a comment about someones character and not giving 100%?
or do you only apply that depending on their skill set?
some of his efforts were insipid and embarrassing last week, and if what i saw is why he hasn't been getting a better go then it is well deserved.
it is inexcusable, and all the talent in world will never compensate for lack of effort in modern football.
It is exactly what contibutes to results like todays
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Giving up young talent like Lennon kind of defeats the purpose of bringing in blokes like Prestia....
...anyway could still yet all be moot....
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gold-coast-leadership-group-to-have-one-final-shot-at-convincing-dion-prestia-to-stay/news-story/10383cd4bee24fc0469aeaf2b4545e2f?
not when you are giving a player who swans about like he thinks he was born with entitlements and is far from showing he has what it takes to make it, for a bloke who goes hard, has proven he can play at the level and gives his all.
Sure some will argue that Lennon hasnt had the opportunities that prestia has, but from what i have seen recently that would be due to the difference in their effort
The one AFL game you've seen recently on TV? You are aware he's missed half the season with an injured shoulder and the entire pre-season with glandular fever? How do you reckon his tank would be after that?
I'd suggest that after today that GC group of players might have a somewhat easier task changing Prestia's mind anyway....or he'll just choose another Melbourne club instead...
After viewing a snap video of Prestia looking off his nut singing the Tigers song I'd say he's 100% committed already :whistle
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injury, games played, whatever has nothing to do with effort.
I'm not talking about someone having trouble adjusting to the pace of the game as they step up, but someone giving hampson/vickery type effort.
standing back watching rather than hitting the pill.
standing by watching opponents run away with the ball.
standing by watching rather than working hard to get to the contest to help a team mate
these things are are non negotiable and i dont give compensation because of someone percieved natural ability.
didnt you make a comment about someones character and not giving 100%?
or do you only apply that depending on their skill set?
some of his efforts were insipid and embarrassing last week, and if what i saw is why he hasn't been getting a better go then it is well deserved.
it is inexcusable, and all the talent in world will never compensate for lack of effort in modern football.
It is exactly what contibutes to results like todays
No in regards to character, I don't give more leeway to players with ability (see Vickery and any number of past "club champions" for starters. ) I do however give more leeway to immature kids for dropping their heads than I do experienced men who've been in the system for years and have made a career of it....sue me ...
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surely though, the example set by miles when he was carving it up in the VFL and getting ignored is what you want rather than sooking it up and putting in half arsed efforts?
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Prestia changes nomination to any other team but Richmond
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surely though, the example set by miles when he was carving it up in the VFL and getting ignored is what you want rather than sooking it up and putting in half arsed efforts?
Ideally yes. My original point was with regards to him being traded out though, not just dropped.
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Prestia officially tells Suns he wants a trade
AFL.com.au
28 August 2016
DION Prestia has joined Jaeger O'Meara in wanting out of Gold Coast, officially requesting a trade to a Melbourne club.
Prestia penned a letter on his official Facebook page to break the news to fans.
As they did when O'Meara's news dropped on Thursday, the Suns has again stated they expected an acceptable deal for a trade to be completed.
"It's with a heavy heart that I inform you that it is my intention to return home to Melbourne during the trade period," Prestia said in his letter.
"The club has also been very clear with me and my manger that they expect an acceptable trade to be facilitated.
"I understand that, and I also want the club that I represented with pride on 95 occasions to be compensated adequately."
Although expected for some time, Prestia's desire to leave is a big loss for the Suns on the back of O'Meara's request.
The 23-year-old is a vice-captain and was taken with the pick No.9 in the 2010 NAB AFL Draft.
"I will be forever grateful to the Gold Coast Suns for not only giving me an opportunity to play AFL but to allowing me to grow as a player and leader," Prestia said.
"I know I leave the club a better person than the day I walked through the door for the first time and that is a credit to everyone involved with the club."
When asked about O'Meara's departure following Saturday night's loss to Port Adelaide, Suns coach Rodney Eade was dismissive.
"Footy clubs move on," Eade said.
"He's a player and he's going, wants to go, doesn't mean he'll get to where he wants to go.
"I don't know what the hysteria is. He's gone or going, we'll find someone else."
Dion Prestia's Facebook letter to fans
Dear Suns fans,
It's with a heavy heart that I inform you that it is my intention to return home to Melbourne during the trade period.
My manager, Marty Pask, and I had been as transparent as possible with the club. We wanted to make sure we kept the club up to date with my thinking and finally, once I had made my decision, we declared my intent to request a trade.
As part of those discussions we agreed, that in the best interests of the Gold Coast Suns, we would keep my intention confidential until the end of the season and I thank the club for their understanding, support and confidentiality.
I really didn't want my decision impacting the playing group and to hold up my end of the bargain I gave a commitment to see out my contract to the best of my ability.
The club has also been very clear with me and my manger that they expect an acceptable trade to be facilitated. I understand that and I also want the club that I represented with pride on 95 occasions to be compensated adequately.
I will be forever grateful to the Gold Coast Suns for not only giving me an opportunity to play AFL but to allow me to grow as a player and leader. I know I leave the club a better person than the day I walked through the door for the first time and that is a credit to everyone involved with the club.
I've been lucky enough to have played with, been coached by, and have worked with a large number of great people. To each and everyone one of them I want to say thanks and I wish them and the club all the very best for the future.
To you, the fans, who have been so supportive I say thank you. To be an inaugural player with the Suns is something I will forever grateful for and those memories of the club's first ever game, our first win, our first game here on the Gold Coast and all the hard work that has been done to set up the Gold Coast Football Club is something I will never forget.
Thank you and farewell
Dion Prestia
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-28/dion-prestia-officially-tells-suns-he-wants-a-trade
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Richmond is understood to be in pole position to snare the star midfielder but Melbourne has also been mooted as a possible destination.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-signals-intent-to-leave-gold-coast-suns-and-move-back-to-victoria/news-story/564db812eb0f24d39d6713e1dc2ef376
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Richmond is understood to be in pole position to snare the star midfielder but Melbourne has also been mooted as a possible destination.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-signals-intent-to-leave-gold-coast-suns-and-move-back-to-victoria/news-story/564db812eb0f24d39d6713e1dc2ef376
DantheMan :clapping :rollin :clapping
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We are not even close. This would be another retrograde step if we give up our 1st pick for a serially injured player.
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will get both dion and jagar and they will set the 2017 season out :lol :lol :lol like yazza
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will get both dion and jagar and they will set the 2017 season out :lol :lol :lol like yazza
Yeah ...
Could still use a
Ruck
Key fwd
Key back
Non grigg midfielder
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We are not even close. This would be another retrograde step if we give up our 1st pick for a serially injured player.
What is we trade a player? Take your pick: Edwards, Ellis, Lennon etc. (Rance, Jack, Cotch and Martin untouchable). Or Deledio and pick 6 for Dion an pick 2-3 whatever it is they may have
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Deledio and pick 6 for Jaeger and Prestia?
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Okay I forgot GC got pick 4 so 6 --> 4 isn't substantial enough. I'd rather Deledio for Prestia and a 2nd rounder. But is that asking too much?
I think the only player I'd give 6 for is Fyfe. I'm sure there might be some other examples but you get my point. Otherwise we just need to keep it.
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Okay I forgot GC got pick 4 so 6 --> 4 isn't substantial enough. I'd rather Deledio for Prestia and a 2nd rounder. But is that asking too much?
I think the only player I'd give 6 for is Fyfe. I'm sure there might be some other examples but you get my point. Otherwise we just need to keep it.
You mean the 2nd rounder that GC already have?
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I keep hearing 700 - 750k a season. Yet we also still require quality up forward and back. It's a lot of dough for one player is he worth that coin?
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We are not even close. This would be another retrograde step if we give up our 1st pick for a serially injured player.
What is we trade a player? Take your pick: Edwards, Ellis, Lennon etc. (Rance, Jack, Cotch and Martin untouchable). Or Deledio and pick 6 for Dion an pick 2-3 whatever it is they may have
Offload players with currency over 26 and go to the draft.
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I keep hearing 700 - 750k a season. Yet we also still require quality up forward and back. It's a lot of dough for one player is he worth that coin?
Cloke and dawson have it covered :clapping
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I keep hearing 700 - 750k a season. Yet we also still require quality up forward and back. It's a lot of dough for one player is he worth that coin?
Cloke and dawson have it covered :clapping
Ain't that just FAAAAAANTASTIC!
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Mark Stevens tonight said "Prestia is going to Richmond on a 5 year deal".
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I keep hearing 700 - 750k a season. Yet we also still require quality up forward and back. It's a lot of dough for one player is he worth that coin?
Cloke and dawson have it covered :clapping
Ain't that just FAAAAAANTASTIC!
:lol
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Okay I forgot GC got pick 4 so 6 --> 4 isn't substantial enough. I'd rather Deledio for Prestia and a 2nd rounder. But is that asking too much?
I think the only player I'd give 6 for is Fyfe. I'm sure there might be some other examples but you get my point. Otherwise we just need to keep it.
You mean the 2nd rounder that GC already have?
Or the one we gave them, who cares it's a hypothetical so it surely doesn't matter does it? They actually have something like 4 2nd round picks.
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We are not even close. This would be another retrograde step if we give up our 1st pick for a serially injured player.
What is we trade a player? Take your pick: Edwards, Ellis, Lennon etc. (Rance, Jack, Cotch and Martin untouchable). Or Deledio and pick 6 for Dion an pick 2-3 whatever it is they may have
Offload players with currency over 26 and go to the draft.
yep, clean the middle tier out as well
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I cant believe how highy some of you rate our recruiters
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Mark Stevens tonight said "Prestia is going to Richmond on a 5 year deal".
Problems over then. :facepalm :facepalm
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It's official.... :rollin
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Good player. Hard at it and still young. Price is the key.
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Tigers set to offer Pick 6, five-year deal for out-of-contract Gold Coast Sun Dion Prestia
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
31 August 2016 2:20pm
WANTAWAY Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia will nominate Richmond as his preferred home.
Prestia, 23, told the Suns of his desire to return to his home state of Victoria at the weekend.
It had been expected he would nominate Richmond as his preferred home and the Tigers confirmed the news on this afternoon.
“At 23 years of age, Dion has shown that he’s both a quality player and person, and he would be a great addition to our list,” Dan Richardson, Richmond’s General Manager of Football told the Tigers’ website.
Richmond said they would work with the Suns and Prestia’s manager in a bid to come to a suitable trade arrangement.
Prestia could expect to earn $700,000-$750,000 and the Tigers are set to offer a five-year deal for the Assumption College graduate.
Richmond is set to offer Gold Coast Pick 6 in the national draft, which would leave the Tigers without a selection in the first two rounds of the draft.
The Tigers last year traded away their 2016 second-round pick as part of the Chris Yarran deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tigers-set-to-offer-pick-6-fiveyear-deal-for-outofcontract-gold-coast-sun-dion-prestia/news-story/80f4172c8e655073a26624efeaf9d061
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Hate to be a Debbie Downer but just have a bad feeling about this. Just feel the club is going through a period of bad luck in combination with bad football management.
First we stuff up with our draft picks over a number of drafts, then resigning Hardwick too early and then we shift our attention to free agency and stuff up with Yarran.
Supporters might be looking back in 10 years time and say how we essentially shot ourselves in the foot with this list of errors and lost a decade in the process, really hope i am wrong (in all honesty similar decison making has already cost us three decades anyway).
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So basically just a continuation of things?
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Lol
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According to SENS Courier Mail bloke (can't remember the name) pick 6 won't get the deal done with Prestia - they want a player.
Take your pick GC!
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Hate to be a Debbie Downer but just have a bad feeling about this. Just feel the club is going through a period of bad luck in combination with bad football management.
First we stuff up with our draft picks over a number of drafts, then resigning Hardwick too early and then we shift our attention to free agency and stuff up with Yarran.
Supporters might be looking back in 10 years time and say how we essentially shot ourselves in the foot with this list of errors and lost a decade in the process, really hope i am wrong (in all honesty similar decison making has already cost us three decades anyway).
You're right.
If the RFC was a country we would be having food air dropped by the UN.
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According to SENS Courier Mail bloke (can't remember the name) pick 6 won't get the deal done with Prestia - they want a player.
Take your pick GC!
Deledio
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According to SENS Courier Mail bloke (can't remember the name) pick 6 won't get the deal done with Prestia - they want a player.
Take your pick GC!
You mean the player GC already have?
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yep heres the list of players.
hunt
morris
ty
townsend
moore x 2
griffo
lennon
should I keep going
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According to SENS Courier Mail bloke (can't remember the name) pick 6 won't get the deal done with Prestia - they want a player.
Take your pick GC!
You mean the player GC already have?
Am I missing something, of whom are you speaking?
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Hate to be a Debbie Downer but just have a bad feeling about this. Just feel the club is going through a period of bad luck in combination with bad football management.
First we stuff up with our draft picks over a number of drafts, then resigning Hardwick too early and then we shift our attention to free agency and stuff up with Yarran.
Supporters might be looking back in 10 years time and say how we essentially shot ourselves in the foot with this list of errors and lost a decade in the process, really hope i am wrong (in all honesty similar decison making has already cost us three decades anyway).
You're right.
If the RFC was a country we would be having food air dropped by the UN.
stuff the u.n, forcing poverty amongst europe
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poverty is the cornerstone of capitalism.
Wash your dirty commie mouth out
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According to SENS Courier Mail bloke (can't remember the name) pick 6 won't get the deal done with Prestia - they want a player.
Take your pick GC!
You mean the player GC already have?
Don't want pick six? How about six players!
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poverty is the cornerstone of capitalism.
Wash your dirty commie mouth out
Don't ever call me commie pos
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:angel:
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:lol
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Prestia’s manager Marty Pask is hopeful a deal can quickly be done when the trade period commences on Monday October 10.
“Dion has had a desire to return to Victoria and play his football in Melbourne surrounded by friends and family,’’ Pask said.
“If you look at Richmond’s core group of players and their ages, it was appealing for Dion to join a group of strong footballers in the right hit zone in terms of their age.
Pask said Prestia would be ready for day one of the pre-season after a knee clean-out ended his season early.
The hard-running midfielder was second in Suns club’s best-and-fairest in 2013 and third in the 2014 season.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-lennon-has-requested-a-trade-out-of-richmond-after-three-seasons-at-the-club/news-story/7e573ba862668b99ae62ff9d1c707670)
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Richmond trading pick No.6 for Dion Prestia would be a mistake, says Kane Cornes
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
September 1, 2016
RICHMOND would be making a mistake trading pick No.6 for Dion Prestia in an attempt to bounce back quickly into the finals mix next season, according to Port Adelaide’s Kane Cornes.
The Tigers may part with their top selection for the 23-year-old Gold Coast midfielder, who nominated the Tigers as his preferred destination.
Cornes said Richmond clearly overrated its list and should follow St Kilda’s plan to rebuild through the draft.
“I worry with the language coming out of the club all year that they (Tigers) overestimate their list,” Cornes told the Herald Sun.
“And they seem to think they are a Dion Prestia away from a final series, but I don’t see that at all.
”I think they are a fair way back, and it can turn quickly, if you look at St Kilda and the way they have gone about it. That’s the way I would have gone.”
Richmond has already moved its second-round draft pick on to Gold Coast, meaning its first selection, after trading on pick No.6 for Prestia, would be in the third-round.
Cornes said the pressure on coach Damien Hardwick to perform next season was at odds with the state of the Tigers’ list.
Richmond they probably need to realise where their list is at and when you are that far behind, the best strategy is to go to the draft.
“It is just the wrong play for me because the thing you have to remember is clearly Hardwick is under pressure, so he needs improvement (straight away),” he said.
“So there’s two issues, there’s the coaching issue and the club as a whole.
“I think the best long-term strategy for the club is the one I’m suggesting, to go through the draft, but if you are Damien Hardwick, you probably can’t knock him for the way he is going because he needs improvement.”
Richmond has also been linked to veteran Collingwood spearhead Travis Cloke.
Cornes said Richmond needed as many early draft picks as possible to help rebuild back into a genuine premiership contender.
“Richmond they probably need to realise where their list is at and when you are that far behind, the best strategy is to go to the draft and there are a number of midfielders are available this year,” he said.
“To give up so much to get a 23-year-old (Prestia) who only played 22 games in the past two years and had some injury concerns when he was a kid, is risky.
“They should get as many first-round draft picks as you can, and trade out a (Ty) Vickery and (Reece) Conca and get those picks in return, because I don’t think the first-round picks that they have had in the past five years - I can’t see apart from (Dustin) Martin - the next star.”
Cornes said the Saints had shown teams can regenerate through the draft, while keeping some core senior players.
“They kept some of their older stars like (Nick) Riewoldt, (Leigh) Montagna and clearly Richmond has a whole of quality in that same department, so you keep on to (Alex) Rance and (Jack) Riewoldt and Dustin Martin,” he said.
“But if you look at those three and I think who is the next Dustin Martin at Richmond? There is no one coming through that I think is the next star of that football club.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-trading-pick-no6-for-dion-prestia-would-be-a-mistake-says-kane-cornes/news-story/5cdb40ec176ddae425a6e89c3f9931a0
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If we trade pick 6 for him we a basket case and nothing has changed. I have no cofidence in our board and football department.No way near worth a pick 6 he can pass for me.Sack the the lot of these clowns running the club.
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you must have confidence in the recruiters to find a better player than prestia than pick 6 though?
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Not worth Pick 6 at all!
2 second round picks and a player!
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We truly are a gift to the other 17 clubs. A gift that keeps on giving on and off the field.
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The pick we get for lennon plus an exchange of steak knives or stuff off
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Latest trade scenario being bandied about:
Richmond: Prestia
Port: pick six
Gold Coast: Hartlett
...sounds lubetastic Kochie...
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Could only be the $..... :shh
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
:lol
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Aren't they yours?
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Aren't they yours?
He's not getting paid 100s thousands for it but
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Aren't they yours?
He's not getting paid 100s thousands for it but
So? He didn't qualify the post so it still counts ;D
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Latest trade scenario being bandied about:
Richmond: Prestia
Port: pick six
Gold Coast: Hartlett
...sounds lubetastic Kochie...
How the stuff...
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Aren't they yours?
He's not getting paid 100s thousands for it but
yet he still does, go figure?
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Spot on
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Spot on
lol bloke would've made decision 12 months ago, we were doing pretty well then. Even if we have to rebuild now he will still be 27/28 when we challenge again so he's not losing out
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Spot on
lol bloke would've made decision 12 months ago, we were doing pretty well then. Even if we have to rebuild now he will still be 27/28 when we challenge again so he's not losing out
I'm afraid I don't share your faith and optimism in this club anymore. More so I am deeply suspicious of any of it's actions...and you can include the AFL hierarchy as well.
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Spot on
lol bloke would've made decision 12 months ago, we were doing pretty well then. Even if we have to rebuild now he will still be 27/28 when we challenge again so he's not losing out
I'm afraid I don't share your faith and optimism in this club anymore. More so I am deeply suspicious of any of it's actions...and you can include the AFL hierarchy as well.
I'm not optimistic about the club, it's stuffed. Reeks of back slapping and bargain basement sales.
I guess my point is he wouldn't have just decided last month oh stuff better pick a club and those poo pricks richmond will just do. We were heavily linked to him last trade period and probably got in his ear then.
And as I said while we stink now, we may not be that far away from a rebuild of sorts and new coach so if the list does get built again we would be in contention again when he's 28. ( though as I said who knows wtf that looks like)
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I'm suss on anyone who nominates RIchmond as they're prefered club.
Spot on
lol bloke would've made decision 12 months ago, we were doing pretty well then. Even if we have to rebuild now he will still be 27/28 when we challenge again so he's not losing out
I'm afraid I don't share your faith and optimism in this club anymore. More so I am deeply suspicious of any of it's actions...and you can include the AFL hierarchy as well.
I'm not optimistic about the club, it's stuffed. Reeks of back slapping and bargain basement sales.
I guess my point is he wouldn't have just decided last month oh stuff better pick a club and those poo pricks richmond will just do. We were heavily linked to him last trade period and probably got in his ear then.
And as I said while we stink now, we may not be that far away from a rebuild of sorts and new coach so if the list does get built again we would be in contention again when he's 28. ( though as I said who knows wtf that looks like)
It quite possible we are giving him far too much money hence he wants to come to circus fc
All that big fish key defender and ruck coin gotta go somewhe
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Now that we know what the important things in a footballer are, can anyone confirm or deny if Prestia signs a good autograph?
If he does the rest probably just falls into line.
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Now that we know what the important things in a footballer are, can anyone confirm or deny if Prestia signs a good autograph?
If he does the rest probably just falls into line.
I heard he steals from team mates lockers.
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ROFL
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Now that we know what the important things in a footballer are, can anyone confirm or deny if Prestia signs a good autograph?
If he does the rest probably just falls into line.
Mini wog was really nice to my kids on te plane
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It's not too late for him to reconsider his options.
I wonder what he's thinking now.
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Got to love this time of the year. Some idiot on SEN just rang in and claimed Jack Riewoldt would go to the Suns in a swap for Prestia :stupid.
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Yes no doubt another KPF would be a prime target for a side that already has Lynch & Wright and is about to lose two, possibly three of it's best midfielders....
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We tried last year, so this signing has been going on for 12 months. ;)
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
The way the guy was talking, it would be a huge story. Fyfe fits.
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
They way the guy was talking, it would be a huge story. Fyfe fits.
Dawson
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
The way the guy was talking, it would be a huge story. Fyfe fits.
it would also be a major coup for the current board. Freo needs a full rebuild and risk losing him to free agency at the end of 2017. But what deal would get him over the line this trade period? Actually, pick 6 and Conca might do it as next year they could lose him to a top side and get pick 18.....
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Actually, pick 6 and Conca might do it as next year they could lose him to a top side and get pick 18.....
Would be an absolute steal
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
The way the guy was talking, it would be a huge story. Fyfe fits.
"bigger than the Balme get" & would "blow FOF out of the water" tho they are doing that to themselves anyway...
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Caro said Richmond are trying to keep hold of pick 6 while at the same time getting Prestia.
On the superfooty podcast there is a mention of Gold Coast being interested Brandon Ellis and Lennon.
Also a mention of massive news for us this week. Apparently bigger than the Balme story.. Something to do with WA. Bit cryptic & apparently they had been looking into the story for 3 days.
Fyfe?
The way the guy was talking, it would be a huge story. Fyfe fits.
"bigger than the Balme get" & would "blow FOF out of the water" tho they are doing that to themselves anyway...
When do we find out!!!??? Wasn't this the same guy that said Dangerfield to Richmond?
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Sun Sets For Gun Mid
By Alex Mulholland
September 27, 2016
DION-PRESTIA
Current club: Gold Coast
Potential clubs: Dion Prestia has nominated Richmond as his destination of choice. The Suns midfielder will be looking to make an impact at the Tigers and help the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin in the engine room. Given his nomination, and Richmond’s desire to land a big fish, it’s unlikely that Prestia will end up anywhere else.
The original price: Gold Coast drafted Prestia at pick 9 in the 2010 national draft. Richmond had pick 6 in that draft and opted to select Reece Conca instead.
The Good: Dion Prestia has been a consistent part of the Gold Coast midfield since debuting in 2011, and has averaged over 25 disposals in every season since 2013. The inside midfield dynamo has been a model of consistency for the Suns, even when the team’s form hasn’t been the best. His work ethic on the inside make him desirable for opposition clubs, and he’s also a hard runner on the outside, creating space and options for his teammates.
The Bad: Prestia has had his fair share of injury troubles over his career, having played just 22 games over the last two seasons. He’s played every game just once in his six years, and has only managed 18 or more games on one other occasion. Amazingly, he’s missed so much football that he’s yet to bring up his 100-game milestone, and his disposal, while solid, is some way off elite.
What his club wants: The Suns have been talking about bringing in experienced players for the losses of Jaeger O’Meara and Prestia. But it’s likely they’ll accept a high draft pick for Prestia should it be offered, or entertain offers including both picks and players. Expect Richmond to get creative at the trade table to get the deal done.
What he’s worth: Richmond will argue that due to his injury worries over the last couple of years, that pick 6 is slightly too high for the Prestia, but there’s little doubt that he’s worth a first-round selection. He may not be an elite AFL midfielder, but he’s been one of the best players from his draft class, and he hasn’t dropped in value in his six years at the top level.
What we’d pay: Pick 7-11
Possible trade scenarios:
Richmond trade pick 6 to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and pick 40
Richmond trade their 2017 first-round selection to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia
Richmond trade pick 6 and Reece Conca to Gold Coast for Dion Prestia and pick 22
Star rating: 4.5/5
Prestia is a valuable commodity, one of the best midfielders on the market this year, and the Tigers will be forced to pay a hefty price to bring him in.
http://footyprophet.com/market-value-dion-prestia/
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The third option is the one I would chase.
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Freo are a basket case,
2nd most isolated city on earth FFs
Fyfe is somewhat realistic IMHO
Get him a helecopter
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Have we done our due diligence on this guy?
The last thing we need is an injury prone Mid.
If anything I would see what we have to do to get Fyfe (assuming he is fit) and throw the sink at him instead of stuffing around/
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Freo are a basket case,
2nd most isolated city on earth FFs
Fyfe is somewhat realistic IMHO
Get him a helecopter
your old mate grigg could help with that........
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Since when is this prick a big fish??
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Since when is this prick a big fish??
since he was in a small bowl
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Fair enough. :snidegrin
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Freo are a basket case,
2nd most isolated city on earth FFs
Fyfe is somewhat realistic IMHO
Get him a helecopter
And even then are a village rather than a city
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dud, delist
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Pick 6 and Conca to GCS for Prestia and 22.
Worth a look that.
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Have we done our due diligence on this guy?
The last thing we need is an injury prone Mid.
If anything I would see what we have to do to get Fyfe (assuming he is fit) and throw the sink at him instead of stuffing around/
My concerns also Mintie. No way should we cough up pick 6 on someone who has struggled to get on the park for the past two years and is hardly a guaranteed A-grader.
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Problem we have announced openly in the media that we want him at the club. Need to ensure we do not cave in to an unjustified cost in obtaining him.
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Problem we have announced openly in the media that we want him at the club. Need to ensure we do not cave in to an unjustified cost in obtaining him.
This is quite true Eliminator.
But could also work in our favour.
The more Prestia and the club talk it up, the less likely opposition clubs would be willing to throw their hat(s) in the ring. Thinking it is a fait accompli.
Could also push Sydney to accepting a deal that they would have earlier thought was unders.
Just another way of looking at it I suppose.
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Have we done our due diligence on this guy?
The last thing we need is an injury prone Mid.
If anything I would see what we have to do to get Fyfe (assuming he is fit) and throw the sink at him instead of stuffing around/
My concerns also Mintie. No way should we cough up pick 6 on someone who has struggled to get on the park for the past two years and is hardly a guaranteed A-grader.
Last two years?
Ive read that he hasnt played a full year coz of injuries in the last 6 years
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Pick 6 and Conca to GCS for Prestia and 22.
Worth a look that.
All that does is show just how dumb we were to pick Conca ahead of Prestia.
That trade is real ugly IMO
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Pick 6 and Conca to GCS for Prestia and 22.
Worth a look that.
All that does is show just how dumb we were to pick Conca ahead of Prestia.
That trade is real ugly IMO
Throw Caddy and Heppel into that conversation and Conca at 6 is as big a disaster since Tambling. Good stuff Tiges!
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Really don't want to give up pick 6 including shuffling to later picks to get him.
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Adelaide Gibbs "no comment"
Richmond " yeah we really like him we are so glad he has chooses us. Yeah na. Cream. Big fish
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Pick 6 and Conca to GCS for Prestia and 22.
Worth a look that.
All that does is show just how dumb we were to pick Conca ahead of Prestia.
That trade is real ugly IMO
Throw Caddy and Heppel into that conversation and Conca at 6 is as big a disaster since Tambling. Good stuff Tiges!
Good point dont think that has been brought up before, you should probably start a new thread
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Pick 6 and Conca to GCS for Prestia and 22.
Worth a look that.
All that does is show just how dumb we were to pick Conca ahead of Prestia.
That trade is real ugly IMO
Throw Caddy and Heppel into that conversation and Conca at 6 is as big a disaster since Tambling. Good stuff Tiges!
Good point dont think that has been brought up before, you should probably start a new thread
Im stark contrast to every other point made in every other thread.
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Adelaide Gibbs "no comment"
Richmond " yeah we really like him we are so glad he has chooses us. Yeah na. Cream. Big fish
The small difference being that Bryce Gibbs has 3 years to run on a contract and hasn't publicly requested a trade to Adelaide
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Adelaide Gibbs "no comment"
Richmond " yeah we really like him we are so glad he has chooses us. Yeah na. Cream. Big fish
The small difference being that Bryce Gibbs has 3 years to run on a contract and hasn't publicly requested a trade to Adelaide
3 years....that's a long time
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We need to make a play for Tom Mitchell. He is a bloody star and the exact type of player we need to help Cotch and Dusty in the middle. No frills, just a worker.
Forget Prestia, Mitchell is the one.
Thoughts??
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Mitchell is a gun. Would be better than Prestia but cost more IMO
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Mitchell is a gun. Would be better than Prestia but cost more IMO
Who cares?
You pay peanuts you get monkeys.
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
Lids is very overrated.
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
Lids going is the club's decision. He is happy to go if the club want him to.
I'm just wanting a good trade for him.
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Lids = underrated
Carried bunch of duds for a decade
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Lids = underrated
Carried bunch of duds for a decade
Lids has been a star for this club, no doubt!
Whatever he or the club decides to do is ok with me. I'd like to see him win a premiership before he retires.
But if he does stay I'd like to see him put on a bit of bulk and play deeper forward next year. His body cannot continue to do the extra work needed to be a mid.
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
Go on.....
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Goneski.
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Gone!
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Good luck sun
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
Go on.....
Mark Stevens said on game day or wahtever it is called that Lids definitely going to Geelong
Same Steveo that also said O'Meara was staying at GC and a week later O'Meara nominated Hawthorn
Brett Anderson saod on twitter deal not done. Tigers want more than Motlop, Motlop for lids is not enough
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Lol motlop
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crazy stuff. If Lids is going somewhere I'd want a shitload better compensation than motlop
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He can be depressed with yarren
How cute
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Cockie wants a cracker?
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Cocka and a decent pick would be more pleasant
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Cocka and a decent pick would be more pleasant
Geelong doesnt have a pick until the 30's
Cant see them giving up Cockatoo
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Let's just settle for yarren, I mean motlop. Then
Everybody luv everybody pls
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Lol at the rfc stuffing this up :clapping
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I honestly don't thiink we are going to trade lids for Motlop, that would be stupid.
if we are going to get Motlop itll be something like Lennon for motlop
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You would hope he can play with Lids going
Go on.....
Mark Stevens said on game day or wahtever it is called that Lids definitely going to Geelong
Steveo also said O'Meara was staying at GC and a week later O'Meara nominated Hawthorn
Brett Anderson saod on twitter deal not done. Tigers want more than Motlop, Motlop for lids is not enough
Thanks WP.
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Lol at the rfc stuffing this up :clapping
Lol nothing can be more certain. Worse still they'll all pat themselves on the back after the fact
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Lol motlop
Have you heard of anything more stuffin stupid from this club. FMD get that woman and fail out of this club now
Motlop. Hahahahahaha
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Cmon petals let's wait to something is actually done until we throw the toys out of the cot
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Is it on the website yet ?
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Lol motlop
Have you heard of anything more stuffin stupid from this club. FMD get that woman and fail out of this club now
Motlop. Hahahahahaha
It's good to know the CEO and president are responsible for who we trade for, I was unaware of that
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So let me get this right.....
The rumours are that we will trade a former number 1 draft pick, all Australian, 2 time club best & fairest winner for a another bloke that consistently goes missing in finals.
......yes that sounds like something we'd do. :rollin
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Lets just see what happens before we tee off on speculation. Its a big if at this stage but if lids did move on it will be a win win for both clubs. Think he stays FWIW.
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I think we should tee off now. Embrace the inevitable. :clapping
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Yeh let's do it now
Stuffing RFC screwing us fans over again, WTF is going on over there , are they all mentally deficient
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Yeh let's do it now
Stuffing RFC screwing us fans over again, WTF is going on over there , are they all mentally deficient
You didn't call anyone names or change their name to something funny and apt. Try again please.
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I think we should tee off now. Embrace the inevitable. :clapping
Driver 320 straight down the middle :clapping
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Prestia's manager was on Trade Radio about an hour ago:
Pask on Prestia: We fully expect him to get to Richmond
Pask on Prestia: I think that both parties (Suns and Tigers) have acted professionally so far
Pask on Prestia: We had to make a call on either the Hawks or Richmond, at the end of the day he wanted to go to the Tigers
Pask on Prestia: We're confident and satisfied that Richmond can get the deal done.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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so his last grab was hawks or tigers learning towards tigers so there is still a chance he may not end up at tigers omg anything is possible
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Rumours saying the deal is done. Swapping our first pick for 2017 and a few swaps of second picks. :whistle
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Dimwit saving his job for immediate gratification not worried about the future
:gotigers
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Rumours saying the deal is done. Swapping our first pick for 2017 and a few swaps of second picks. :whistle
So a likely top 4 pick for Prestia.
Nope!
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This is where Balme needs to step in and take the scissors away from the kids. Hardwick, Dan, Blair and Benny are all in survival mode thinking about their immediate future at the club and will sell our future for a quick bounce up the ladder. If Balme let's us trade our first rounder then he would have failed his first test as it will most likely be a top 5 pick.
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Does anyone think Prestia is worth a top 10 pick?
I don't, not even close. Pick 20 maybe IMO.
Tom Mitchell is though.
I'd be happy to hand over pick 6 for him.
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Does anyone think Prestia is worth a top 10 pick?
I don't, not even close. Pick 20 maybe IMO.
Tom Mitchell is though.
I'd be happy to hand over pick 6 for him.
I actually rate Prestia highly. His problem isn't talent, it's his body. He consistently has been getting injured the last few years. If he can stay fit, he wouldn't be that far behind Mitchell. It is ultimately hard to tell who is better because Mitchell is surrounded by the best midfield in the land while Prestia has been surrounded by guys that are either good but injured or just too junior. He probably gets the tag much more than Mitchell.
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Not a top 10 pick for me maybe between 18 and 25 that's all biggest concern is injury's to. Let's hope club handles this better then paying overs for Yarran.
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Why Prestia rejected Hawks for Tigers
Tom Boswell
Gold Coast Bulletin
October 4, 2016
AFL player agent Marty Pask has revealed client Dion Prestia rejected overtures from AFL powerhouse Hawthorn in favour of joining Richmond.
Park said a number of factors including the age demographic of Richmond’s midfield led to the Gold Coast Suns ball magnet to nominate the Tigers as his preferred destination.
Prestia is currently 23 and was attracted by the idea of building a long relationship with the likes of Tigers midfielders Trent Cotching, 26, and Dustin Martin, 25.
“We had to make a call on either the Hawks of Richmond. Both clubs presented very well but at the end of the day he wanted to go to the Tigers,” Pask said on AFL Trade Radio.
“There were a lot of factors that came into play in terms of the lifestyle, where he wanted to live, training every day, his teammates and a little bit of list analysis.
“With the age of Cotchin and Martin, he is jumping into a midfield that has fantastic cover there.
“There is a good nucleus for a good, strong midfield there for a long period of time.
“With all these things weighed up he felt very comfortable with making the decision to join the Richmond footy club.”
Pask said Prestia wasn’t deterred by speculation surrounding the future of coach Damien Hardwick.
“We were very comfortable when asking those questions with the answers we received,” Pask said.
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-rejected-offer-from-hawthorn-in-favour-of-joining-richmond/news-story/ef174d598d548000e7fed4e60038aecc
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Tigers target Prestia trade transaction
richmondfc.com.au
October 3, 2016
With the start of the AFL’s annual trade period now just one week away, Richmond’s focus turns to striking a deal with Gold Coast in exchange for talented midfielder Dion Prestia, who has nominated Tigerland as his preferred new football home.
“List management this time of the year is obviously crucial, and the number one priority is Dion Prestia, who is keen to come here,” the Tigers’ recently-appointed General Manager – Football, Neil Balme, told ‘Roar Vision’.
“We’re really pleased that he’s made that decision, and we’ll be doing everything to make sure that happens . . .
“That’s one of the things we’ll be making work.”
Prestia, who turns 24 next week (October 12), was taken by the Suns at pick nine overall in the 2010 National Draft after starring at TAC Cup level with the Calder Cannons, and also representing Vic Metro at the under-18 championships that year.
He has played 95 games, kicked 30 goals, and averaged 23.5 disposals per match in his six-season league career with Gold Coast.
In 2013, Prestia was runner-up in the Suns’ Best and Fairest award, and he was third the following year.
For the past three seasons, he served as a vice-captain of the Gold Coast’s team.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-03/tigers-target-prestia-trade-transaction
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Rumours saying the deal is done. Swapping our first pick for 2017 and a few swaps of second picks. :whistle
Swapping our first pick for what in 2017? Their first?
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Next year's tipped to be a bumper draft for talls...with that in mind, I'd prefer we kept our first pick....
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Dimwit saving his job for immediate gratification not worried about the future
:gotigers
#selfish
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Next year's tipped to be a bumper draft for talls...with that in mind, I'd prefer we kept our first pick....
Why?, talls need 3-5 years to mature, plus we couldn't develop a photo at office works
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Ok then, let's not bother drafting any talls ever again because we might stuff them up or have to wait a couple of seasons before they come good....sounds like a plan...
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Just recruit more Hampsons
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Or Batchelors, he plays tall apparently.
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Just recruit more Hampsons
Jackstars Holy Trinity
1) more players who train like hampson
2) more players who lift our winning %, like houli
3) not minding more coaching staff like Chaplin
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The Tigers' negotiations with Gold Coast for midfielder Dion Prestia have not gained any momentum, with each club understood to be waiting to see how the other values the 23-year-old.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-04/trade-wrap-lion-hanley-meets-with-suns-hartlett-flies-east
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Ok then, let's not bother drafting any talls ever again because we might stuff them up or have to wait a couple of seasons before they come good....sounds like a plan...
Fair enough, but if you could advise me the name of the last tall 18 year old we drafted who turned into a superstar or even played in our top 12 AT RICHMOND, then that would be great.
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Alex Rance. Jack Riewoldt.
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Dustin Martin?
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Alex Rance. Jack Riewoldt.
I mean tall as in a ruck tall
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Alex Rance. Jack Riewoldt.
I mean tall as in a ruck tall
Probably Brad Ottens. But in all fairness he was probably the only one we used any sort of decent on to aquire.
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Give the lids ( or currency acquired in a multi-team swap fest) and Bellis for Prestia and a 2nd round pick. Give Pies 2nd round pick for M Williams.
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...or better yet just keep the second round pick which is way more than Williams is worth anyway...
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...or better yet just keep the second round pick which is way more than Williams is worth anyway...
Yep.
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come on people Williams we have enough list cloggers we don't need anymore
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come on people Williams we have enough list cloggers we don't need anymore
:clapping
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Alex Rance. Jack Riewoldt.
I mean tall as in a ruck tall
Nice shifting of the posts there :lol
Brad Ottens. But in all fairness he was probably the only one we used any sort of decent on to aquire.
Sorry I think he meant talls as in 205cm+ talls ::)
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news also said Richmond is willing to trade pick 6 for Prestia.
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news also said Richmond is willing to trade pick 6 for Prestia.
:clapping Wow they've finally lost all their marbles :clapping
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apparently the list management team went through the process and rated prestia and all likely draftees out of 100 and have subsequently seen that Prestia is and will be better than anyone we'll pick up in the draft with pick 6.
Now bear in mind the list management team contains elite judges of skill including dimma, FJ and Blair...
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news also said Richmond is willing to trade pick 6 for Prestia.
Don't believe this will happen.
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news also said Richmond is willing to trade pick 6 for Prestia.
Get Stuffed RFC!!!!! I'm sick of being the most stupid stuffen club in the AFL!..........disclaimer - on the proviso this is true
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The Tigers will land Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia during the trade period. It is just a question of how the trade will be consummated. The Suns clearly would accept Richmond’s first pick, No. 6, but Richmond might request something in return for giving up that pick. They have offered Prestia a massive five-year deal.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-looking-to-secure-swans-ruckman-toby-nankervis/news-story/052f07bb17d18fca6cdce88062769085
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But they will trade away pick six. :snidegrin
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...or better yet just keep the second round pick which is way more than Williams is worth anyway...
I only mentioned it as they are well down the path to getting him regardless. TBH, I agree with you.
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
Don't think GC would be up for that unfortunately.
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hay we would do something like that hahahah....
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hahahahahahahahahaha
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
Don't think GC would be up for that unfortunately.
How about:
Pick 6 + B Ellis
for
Prestia + Pick 9
I'd still feel like we're winning that one hugely...
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
Don't think GC would be up for that unfortunately.
How about:
Pick 6 + B Ellis
for
Prestia + Pick 9
I'd still feel like we're winning that one hugely...
That's what id be offering
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would be a good trade
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would be a good trade
For us lol
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
Don't think GC would be up for that unfortunately.
How about:
Pick 6 + B Ellis
for
Prestia + Pick 9
I'd still feel like we're winning that one hugely...
That's what id be offering
Reckon they'd take it too
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:pray
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we might trade pick 6 get dion and GC pick 9 that would be great
Don't think GC would be up for that unfortunately.
How about:
Pick 6 + B Ellis
for
Prestia + Pick 9
I'd still feel like we're winning that one hugely...
That's what id be offering
Reckon they'd take it too
Then it's settled
Get it done Balmey :clapping
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keep pick 6 boys biut what we giv GC in return well we have issues I reckon the do need a tough player who gets 5 possies a game Morris yes.
they need a player who u turns and cant kick opposite side well grigg but signed dam it, bachar but signed dam it, hunt signed dam it...
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?
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I'm just as confused as you Chuckles
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keep pick 6 boys biut what we giv GC in return well we have issues I reckon the do need a tough player who gets 5 possies a game Morris yes.
they need a player who u turns and cant kick opposite side well grigg but signed dam it, bachar but signed dam it, hunt signed dam it...
Is your suggestion that we might have been able to swap any of Morris, Grigg, Houli or Hunt for Prestia. instead of trading pick 6?
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I think it infers that they're all poo.
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I think it infers that they're all poo.
Returning to the latent state of play :clapping
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Inside Football's Brett Anderson on SEN tonight reckons Richmond doesn't want to trade pick 6 for Prestia but may have to.
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Inside Football's Brett Anderson on SEN tonight reckons Richmond doesn't want to trade pick 6 for Prestia but may have to.
well stuff me if that aint a scoop ::)
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I wonder what other possible trades are available for pick 6?
I would rather offer pick 6 to Sydney for Naismith and keep Miles.
Prestia is injury prone IMO, Miles is a proven quantity and with some decent development could be improved.
We shouldn't be getting our panties in a twist just because Prestia (or any player for that matter) wants to come to RFC
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Inside Football's Brett Anderson on SEN tonight reckons Richmond doesn't want to trade pick 6 for Prestia but may have to.
We don't have to do anything. If we don't think he's worth pick 6 then don't stuffing do it.
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I wonder what other possible trades are available for pick 6?
I would rather offer pick 6 to Sydney for Naismith and keep Miles.
Prestia is injury prone IMO, Miles is a proven quantity and with some decent development could be improved.
We shouldn't be getting our panties in a twist just because Prestia (or any player for that matter) wants to come to RFC
I'd offer pick 6 for Patton or Lobb. Patton needed a season of consolidation after his injuries and damn he looked in the back half of the season, type of power fwd you build a fwd line around. He'd straighten us up and would take the heat off Jack. Add Deledio as our 3rd medium tall to round it off
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Like it Big Tone, better than my option, the d heads in charge are becoming prestiacentric, to the detriment of RFC
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Like it Big Tone, better than my option, the d heads in charge are becoming prestiacentric, to the detriment of RFC
LMAO that's the media not the RFC, it's not the clubs fault you listen to the media as gospel
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Like it Big Tone, better than my option, the d heads in charge are becoming prestiacentric, to the detriment of RFC
LMAO that's the media not the RFC, it's not the clubs fault you listen to the media as gospel
The only media i listen to is the one with the most street cred, most rubbish free and interestingly opinionated posters, OER RULES!!! :bow
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Like it Big Tone, better than my option, the d heads in charge are becoming prestiacentric, to the detriment of RFC
LMAO that's the media not the RFC, it's not the clubs fault you listen to the media as gospel
The only media i listen to is the one with the most street cred, most rubbish free and interestingly opinionated posters, OER RULES!!! :bow
Well that's fair enough the talk on here has definitely been Prestia centric
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:lol
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Like it Big Tone, better than my option, the d heads in charge are becoming prestiacentric, to the detriment of RFC
LMAO that's the media not the RFC, it's not the clubs fault you listen to the media as gospel
The only media i listen to is the one with the most street cred, most rubbish free and interestingly opinionated posters, OER RULES!!! :bow
As one of the site experts, id like to thank you. :thumbsup
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Atta boy, set unrealistic trades so it's easier to blame them later :thumbsup
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Prestia will be another sub 180 cm whipping boy, that is guaranteed
Forget him get Mitchell
:bow
Well said mate.
Trade out Lids for Cockatoo and use his wage to pay Mitchell.
So we gain two YOUNG GUN mids for the next 10 years, pay for them with Lids wage plus a bit more Cockatoo as he wouldn't be on big money yet, and lose pick 6 and a 30 year old HFF.
Player swap and maybe Vickery's compo for Prestia only if that can be done otherwise to bad.
Then I might think this club is heading in the right dirsection.
And no more signing of "depth" players like Batchelor and A. Moore.
Atta boy, set unrealistic trades so it's easier to blame them later :thumbsup
So what's unrealistic?
Lids for Cockatoo?
A team in a premiership window trading out a kid that has done not much for a 2 time AA that if he can get his body right, could play for another 3,4,5 years and maybe be the difference between winning and losing a premiership.
Or
Pick 25 and Griffiths/BEllis/Conca/Lennon/Edwards for a player that has play 20 odd games in 2 years that has said he is leaving.
You may rate Prestia higher than me but that is what I think he is worth.
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Lids for Cocka. I'll eat my hat but I cannot see Geelong doing that and if they do they're more delusional than us.
Prestia I'm reserving judgement, can't say I've watched him much but I want to keep pick 6 and his injury history makes me have reservations.
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Rubbish yr
Lids would be significantly more valuable to the cats than cocka
More so given the age of danger/Hawkins/selewood
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Lids for Cocka. I'll eat my hat but I cannot see Geelong doing that and if they do they're more delusional than us.
Prestia I'm reserving judgement, can't say I've watched him much but I want to keep pick 6 and his injury history makes me have reservations.
Shannon Grant for Wayne Shwass worked a while ago, IIRC they were roughly the same age when that trade happened.
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Rubbish yr
Lids would be significantly more valuable to the cats than cocka
More so given the age of danger/Hawkins/selewood
Not sure how you figure that ? Geelong need younger players. Deledio is just about cooked.
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Prestia is not worth a pick 6 as he has had limited football over the last 2 season it would be the clubs biggest downfall ever
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Apparently our players are worth much less than everyone else and so are our picks
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Apparently our players are worth much less than everyone else and so are our picks
If Richmond trade pick 6 :banghead l will walk away from the club as it's very important they keep picking up young talent from the draft.
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Prestia is not worth a pick 6 as he has had limited football over the last 2 season it would be the clubs biggest downfall ever
Love child of Conca/Yarran.
If you had to write a document on, how to run a club into the ground, this is it.
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Rubbish yr
Lids would be significantly more valuable to the cats than cocka
More so given the age of danger/Hawkins/selewood
Not saying Cocka is better just saying I can't see them trading a young player who has shown signs that they took a risk on for a broken down player. Don't think they're as close to a flag as they hope either
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Rubbish yr
Lids would be significantly more valuable to the cats than cocka
More so given the age of danger/Hawkins/selewood
Not sure how you figure that ? Geelong need younger players. Deledio is just about cooked.
Cause lids is good at football and Geelong window is open now
I was hoping we would draft cocka, he's a good prospect. Yet over the short-mid term deledio would be very handy to them
Cocka couldn't get a game. Lids would be elite
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This is the best one ..... Big fish my arse
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One junior i do like at Geelong is Jake Kolojashnij. We desperately need tall defenders and i reckon he is tracking along pretty well.
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One junior i do like at Geelong is Jake Kolojashnij. We desperately need tall defenders and i reckon he is tracking along pretty well.
Yes he is good, reckon they won't give him up though
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One junior i do like at Geelong is Jake Kolojashnij. We desperately need tall defenders and i reckon he is tracking along pretty well.
Yes he is good, reckon they won't give him up though
You mean to say they want an A grader but won't give up anything decent in return?
How surprising :whistle
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As opposed to u that gives away whatever we got no worries
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As opposed to u that gives away whatever we got no worries
Pray tell....
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Richmond is in discussions with Gold Coast over Dion Prestia, in a deal that will almost certainly involve the Tigers giving up pick six. They have told the Suns they want a pick back in return for number six as apart of the Prestia deal, which is expected to go through in the coming days.
Source: Foxsports (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-has-already-spoken-to-geelong-midfielder-josh-caddy-over-trade-for-brett-deledio/news-story/63bb2a86965726d8f45d23fe870d6a44)
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
If we want to give away pick 6, go after a star, not a short, injury prone, just average player.
I'd prefer to give Geelong pick 6 for Cockatoo or Darling from West Coast.
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BT what would you know? Club knows better remember
So McCartney heads to freo for a drop from 3 to 7, saints will grab Steele for sub 30 and we are considering offloading pick 6 for a standard 180 cmc b grade type player
Nice work.
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
If we want to give away pick 6, go after a star, not a short, injury prone, just average player.
I'd prefer to give Geelong pick 6 for Cockatoo or Darling from West Coast.
Way overs
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Circus fc
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Say that again way over pick 6 unless they give us 2 picks in mid 20 or early 20 or offer them a B.Ellis or S.Edwards straight swap.Injurys last 2 seasons doesn't our club learn every trade period sucked in.
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May as well go pick 6 for Omeara
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At least jäger has some potential
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Prestia. Italian for LMAO
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Prestia. Italian for LMAO
har har har har
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l don't even rate Prestia these days. If the club let P6 go for that spud. They are dumb as mule poo
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
If we want to give away pick 6, go after a star, not a short, injury prone, just average player.
I'd prefer to give Geelong pick 6 for Cockatoo or Darling from West Coast.
Way overs
Darling not worth pick 6?
To us he is worth pick 1 as we have Jack and Jack only as a forward.
Remember Conca was pick 6, Vickery was pick 8 and BEllis was pick 15.
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
If we want to give away pick 6, go after a star, not a short, injury prone, just average player.
I'd prefer to give Geelong pick 6 for Cockatoo or Darling from West Coast.
Way overs
Darling not worth pick 6?
To us he is worth pick 1 as we have Jack and Jack only as a forward.
Remember Conca was pick 6, Vickery was pick 8 and BEllis was pick 15.
Pick 6 for Darling would be a steal IMESHO
For Prestia, id go pick 6 and ellis b
For prestia and pick 9
Just posted an article in the Deledio thread by Jske Nisll he reckons deal will done in coming days and that Richmind wants picks in return as part of any deal
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Hahaha pick 6 yet he has been injured for 2 years :gotigers :gotigers
If we want to give away pick 6, go after a star, not a short, injury prone, just average player.
I'd prefer to give Geelong pick 6 for Cockatoo or Darling from West Coast.
Way overs
Darling not worth pick 6?
To us he is worth pick 1 as we have Jack and Jack only as a forward.
Remember Conca was pick 6, Vickery was pick 8 and BEllis was pick 15.
Pick 6 for Darling would be a steal IMESHO
For Prestia, id go pick 6 and ellis b
For prestia and pick 9
Just posted an article in the Deledio thread by Jske Nisll he reckons deal will done in coming days and that Richmind wants picks in return as part of any deal
Would you do pick 6 and pick 45 for Prestia and either of
- Pick 9
- Pick 22 & 23
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We give up pick 6 , I'd want pick 9 coming to us
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Yeah 22 and 23 or some FJ sweet spot picks
Balme do something ffs
If freo can only drop 4 to lake McArtney then a pick back around 10 is about right esp with the history of our recruiters
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Yeah 22 and 23 or some FJ sweet spot picks
Balme do something ffs
If freo can only drop 4 to lake McArtney then a pick back around 10 is about right esp with the history of our recruiters
You can imagine FJ basting that 22-23 sweet spot away. Its his special. A cheap butcher at the local bogan foodcourt. Like braising poorly selected ribs with a cheap glaze, and overcooking in a fit of self gratification.
The FJ Ribs special.
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:lol
Sent him an email yesterday hopefully the dud read it
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No one interested in M Barlow. Look i know he is 28 and falls outside most peoples ability to improve the list because of the age paranoia that pervades most peoples thinking, but if the club really thinks it is not far away then a player like Barlow would suit to a tee.
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Out spuds in Moore and Townsend
In Barlow
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Thrilled if we get Prestia...
for pick 4?
That's why I think they might trade next years first pick.
hmm, have heard next year is supposed to be a superdraft
Well we sat out of the last one in 2001 and it didn't hurt us one little bit so what's the problem
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Out spuds in Moore and Townsend
In Barlow
Give me time to think about that. Yes.
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I for one am loving dooks dining analogues.
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No one interested in M Barlow. Look i know he is 28 and falls outside most peoples ability to improve the list because of the age paranoia that pervades most peoples thinking, but if the club really thinks it is not far away then a player like Barlow would suit to a tee.
Didn't you say we are a middling side at best? That means we're not in contention so we should maybe say no.....
I personally like Barlow but is he right for us or will he just help us climb to ninth?
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Would he be better than grigg?
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Would he be better than grigg?
I think JON was better then Grigg and that's telling yah somehting :banghead :banghead :banghead
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we are considering offloading pick 6 for a standard 180 cmc b grade type player
Nice work.
And picks bro
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I think JON was better then Grigg and that's telling yah somehting :banghead :banghead :banghead
That's officially the dumbest statement I've read
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Would he be better than grigg?
I think JON was better on video then Grigg and that's telling yah somehting :banghead :banghead :banghead
EFA
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Q. Has the Prestia deal stalled or is it being held up because of the Deledio stuff? Thanks.
A. The latter
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/786512913905258497
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Would he be better than grigg?
I think JON was better on video then Grigg and that's telling yah somehting :banghead :banghead :banghead
EFA
:lol
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Out spuds in Moore and Townsend
In Barlow
good call barlow is 1000 times better then moore and townsend put togther he finds the ball and can hit a target unlike the other 2 who strut around thinking there tough please... why they are still contracted is beyond me they were hopeless this year hopeless
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I'm tipping this trade won't get done. Herald Sun reporting that Dion will just remain with the Suns.
He is not worth pick 6 so fair enough. Go after Marchbank & Pickett from GWS and trade pick 6 for that.
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I'm tipping this trade won't get done. Herald Sun reporting that Dion will just remain with the Suns.
He is not worth pick 6 so fair enough. Go after Marchbank & Pickett from GWS and trade pick 6 for that.
Got a link?
Can't find anything on it.
Edit:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-will-return-to-gold-coast-suns-if-no-trade-can-be-struck-with-richmond/news-story/8bfe93e54c501c3810c089c1045168cd
Sammy talks a fair bit of crap. The report says if it doesn't get done he'll stay, not that he will certainly remain.
Marchbank is almost certainly going to Carlton.
Pickett worse than Lennon regarding the #ticket factor. Laziest player at GWS.
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If that is a legit chance, we should also consider just taking a pick for Deledio, pick for edwards and going hard at the draft.
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marchbank would be the one develop him into a key CHB lets look at it really astbury not the best of footballer couldn't get a game all off 2015 and then was playing in a key position this year - hunt bachar on the othersides or morris it clearly shows we need some better backman
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Well twitter is in a flutter
Saying GC in discussions with Sydney as things with Tigers have stalled
Tiger fans saying looks like we are stuffing up again :rollin
Can only be stuffing up if you think Prestia is worth pick 6
Think both clubs are tying to call the others bluff
Who's going to blink twice
Balmey shpuld be used to it went through the saje thing last year over Aish with Brissie
Great entertainment is Twitter :laugh: ;D
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Well twitter is in a flutter
Saying GC in discussions with Sydney as things with Tigers have stalled
Tiger fans saying looks like we are stuffing up again :rollin
Can only be stuffing up if you think Prestia is worth pick 6
Think both clubs are tying to call the others bluff
Who's going to blink twice
Balmey shpuld be used to it went through the saje thing last year over Aish with Brissie
Great entertainment is Twitter :laugh: ;D
Time to walk for mine. Not worth pick 6
keep pick 6 or offer it up for another gun. Win/win
Not getting Prestia is not an issue for me and I won't look down on the club for having the balls to hold their ground.
Where I get annoyed with the club is over Lids deal, it appears to have sidetracked us for the entire week and whatever the outcome would've benefited the cats anyway or most probably.
so tell cats to FO, to gold coast to FO and have balls offer up these middle tier who keep failing us and let's go to the draft and start again.
I don't want another season of treading water.
Because Dimma is about as good as that Italian captain that drove the boat into the rocks
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the meatball isn't a pick six, GC can stuff off, moving on, pick 6 will help us rebuild.
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the meatball isn't a pick six, GC can stuff off, moving on, pick 6 will help us rebuild.
Yeah perhaps we can pick up another Conca...
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I still can't work out why we're not talking to Sydney about swapping pick 6 for 14 and 17.
They have openly said they would package both together to trade up.
The only thing I can think of is we're trying get get a pick less than 17 back from the Gold Coast.
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we want to keep our first round pick no matter what we should do is back ourselves and say were going to have a big year next year and offer GC next years first round pick and pick up a good player this year... take a risk
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Well twitter is in a flutter
Saying GC in discussions with Sydney as things with Tigers have stalled
Tiger fans saying looks like we are stuffing up again :rollin
Can only be stuffing up if you think Prestia is worth pick 6
Think both clubs are tying to call the others bluff
Who's going to blink twice
Balmey shpuld be used to it went through the saje thing last year over Aish with Brissie
Great entertainment is Twitter :laugh: ;D
I reckon this smacks of GC blinking now.
Reckon we'll get him for a trade down of pick 6.
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Don't budge tigers!
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Oh the drama
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what excitement this is just finish the deal FFS
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Breaking news everywhere here. RIC recruiting team is in meltdown. Sydney and GC locked in discussion. Update shortly
Richmond are incredibly close to losing Prestia here. Knifes edge. I'm told RIC no-showed a planned meeting with GC.
must be the reason why balmey couldn't be on @SENNews this morning. Apparently he had an URGENT meeting to attend.
GC/Syd discussion ongoing. One of the alleged participants in scuffle not present in meeting
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
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Brett Anderson on SEN says pick 6 will go. The issue is the Suns want pick 6 as a straight swap whereas Richmond wants something else in return the other way.
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Say no to straight swap for pick 6. Want somethink back.
Dont do it!
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Cmon offer them houli or grigg
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Again, how the stuff can Sydney afford Prestia for 700k when they let Mitchell go for 500?
Edit: If I was GC and I wasn't getting the deal I wanted for Prestia, I would do exactly this. Go and shop him around, talk to other clubs, try and cause a little panic.
Hold firm now Tiges!
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Breaking news everywhere here. RIC recruiting team is in meltdown. Sydney and GC locked in discussion. Update shortly
Richmond are incredibly close to losing Prestia here. Knifes edge. I'm told RIC no-showed a planned meeting with GC.
must be the reason why balmey couldn't be on @SENNews this morning. Apparently he had an URGENT meeting to attend.
GC/Syd discussion ongoing. One of the alleged participants in scuffle not present in meeting
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Why are we going up there?
They can come down here.
The more this goes on the worse it gets.
This guy is an injury prone player.
I think we should walk away
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This deal smelled like bs from the start, some injured player lobs up out of the blue and says he wants to play for us and GC want a top pick for him, what a magical alignment of the stars. Just like Yarran. RFC multiple trade molestation victim getting set up again.
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If that is a legit chance, we should also consider just taking a pick for Deledio, pick for edwards and going hard at the draft.
This is spot on.
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Brett Anderson on SEN says pick 6 will go. The issue is the Suns want pick 6 as a straight swap whereas Richmond wants something else in return the other way.
Gold coast have picks 22, 24 and 30. We need something back. Pick 22 would be a pass. Pick 30 probably not.
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https://youtu.be/SbBjtWpwNGk
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we want to keep our first round pick no matter what we should do is back ourselves and say were going to have a big year next year and offer GC next years first round pick and pick up a good player this year... take a risk
No way, next years draft is tipped to be very strong, we should not trade out of it. Also, were likely to have a top 4 pick 😉
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Well twitter is in a flutter
Saying GC in discussions with Sydney as things with Tigers have stalled
Tiger fans saying looks like we are stuffing up again :rollin
Can only be stuffing up if you think Prestia is worth pick 6
Think both clubs are tying to call the others bluff
Who's going to blink twice
Balmey shpuld be used to it went through the saje thing last year over Aish with Brissie
Great entertainment is Twitter :laugh: ;D
Time to walk for mine. Not worth pick 6
keep pick 6 or offer it up for another gun. Win/win
Not getting Prestia is not an issue for me and I won't look down on the club for having the balls to hold their ground.
Where I get annoyed with the club is over Lids deal, it appears to have sidetracked us for the entire week and whatever the outcome would've benefited the cats anyway or most probably.
so tell cats to FO, to gold coast to FO and have balls offer up these middle tier who keep failing us and let's go to the draft and start again.
I don't want another season of treading water.
Because Dimma is about as good as that Italian captain that drove the boat into the rocks
Yep agree... they're calling our bluff, don't blink tigers ffs!
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Well twitter is in a flutter
Saying GC in discussions with Sydney as things with Tigers have stalled
Tiger fans saying looks like we are stuffing up again :rollin
Can only be stuffing up if you think Prestia is worth pick 6
Think both clubs are tying to call the others bluff
Who's going to blink twice
Balmey shpuld be used to it went through the saje thing last year over Aish with Brissie
Great entertainment is Twitter :laugh: ;D
Time to walk for mine. Not worth pick 6
keep pick 6 or offer it up for another gun. Win/win
Not getting Prestia is not an issue for me and I won't look down on the club for having the balls to hold their ground.
Where I get annoyed with the club is over Lids deal, it appears to have sidetracked us for the entire week and whatever the outcome would've benefited the cats anyway or most probably.
so tell cats to FO, to gold coast to FO and have balls offer up these middle tier who keep failing us and let's go to the draft and start again.
I don't want another season of treading water.
Because Dimma is about as good as that Italian captain that drove the boat into the rocks
Yep agree... they're calling our bluff, don't blink tigers ffs!
Agreed....keep 6 if they want to play games. Prestia can go to the swans or stay if it means we pay overs. I think at the end of the day it gets done so all parties are happy.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
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Why are we going up there?
They can come down here.
The more this goes on the worse it gets.
This guy is an injury prone player.
I think we should walk away
What???
You don't need to be in the same room these days to have a meeting
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This deal smelled like bs from the start, some injured player lobs up out of the blue and says he wants to play for us and GC want a top pick for him, what a magical alignment of the stars. Just like Yarran. RFC multiple trade molestation victim getting set up again.
This!....it's a Yarran re-run and we will get bent over. Keep 6 and get Sam PS....screw any commitment made with Prestia. If he really wants to come to us walk him to the PSD.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
You may be right,but how Hill goes for pick 23 two time premiership player while we always get bent over or even Mitchell to hawks from swans for pick 14 both a lot better same age bracket to.Need to hold firm simple and walk away.
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Prestia is a very good B grader who is probably close to taking the next step.
He was runner up at the BnF in 2013 when Gaz won the brownlow, and 3rd the next year.
Has been Vice Captain since 2014.
His injuries, in particular in 2015 when he only played 8 games, concern me and in any other climate would reduce his trade value greatly. I would say GC are freaking out they're going to have a Brisbane esque situation if they don't stamp down on players quitting the club in great numbers.
Agree with Dooks, Pick six for Prestia and a reasonable return pick is about what his value is.
If the deal doesn't get done, I'm quite happy to go to the draft without getting Prestia.
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Yeah I think some people are underating Prestia here.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
You may be right,but how Hill goes for pick 23 two time premiership player while we always get bent over or even Mitchell to hawks from swans for pick 14 both a lot better same age bracket to.Need to hold firm simple and walk away.
Mitchell for 14 is a great trade by Hawthorn. Hill 19 games 11 goals in 2016. And not damaging by foot particularly. Not sure it's so great.
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"The fact the process was so smooth and seamless shows the level of professionalism and respect from all parties," he said in an Eagles statement.
Sam Mitchell.
#BenPeg
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Hawks already have targets with the rather late picks they got for Mitchell.
RFC can't even negotiate for lids.
stuff the lot of them
Right off.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
Have to agree to disagree on this Dooks. Due to unique circumstances involving the academy bids an absolute gun (in SPS) could slip to us. Imagine having Rioli on one wing and SPS on the other!..... We need to keep pick 6 at any cost....pffft pick 22, they'll just pick another Bachelor.
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
Have to agree to disagree on this Dooks. Due to unique circumstances involving the academy bids an absolute gun (in SPS) could slip to us. Imagine having Rioli on one wing and SPS on the other!..... We need to keep pick 6 at any cost....pffft pick 22, they'll just pick another Bachelor.
Let's see what happens.
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Wow so apparently our dealings have actually been ok and the club will give up pick 6 for prestia and 30 :thumbsdown
Im not happy with this, sorry dont mean to be negative but between thos and the Yarran deal. Conca, lennon etc we are just going no where
*sorry cant link but up on afl site
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Not sure i am happy with a possible pick 30 in return as part of the deal.
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Hawks already have targets with the rather late picks they got for Mitchell.
RFC can't even negotiate for lids.
stuff the lot of them
Right off.
It's not our fault Geelong have nothing to give for Lids.
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Wow so apparently our dealings have actually been ok and the club will give up pick 6 for prestia and 30 :thumbsdown
*sorry cant link but up on afl site
Weak pricks.
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Not sure i am happy with a possible pick 30 in return as part of the deal.
We have as much chance of nailing pick 30 as pick 6.
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Not sure i am happy with a possible pick 30 in return as part of the deal.
Disappointing. I would have hoped for 22 back as well at the very least.
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Not sold on Prestia, caddy
Trelor, t mitchel look a level higher :P
Losing #6, lids, Lennon etc not sure I the net gain will propel list to a flag under generals penny / Betamax / hardwick
Elephant in the room is no money, no ruck, no chf, no CHB, the sponser which gives no money plastered on half of punt rd
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Wtf are we meant to do with 26 and 30?
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Wow so apparently our dealings have actually been ok and the club will give up pick 6 for prestia and 30 :thumbsdown
Im not happy with this, sorry dont mean to be negative but between thos and the Yarran deal. Conca, lennon etc we are just going no where
*sorry cant link but up on afl site
Richmond's conversations with the Suns have been somewhat smoother in the past two days as it seeks to land midfielder Dion Prestia.
Despite reports on Friday, Prestia remains committed to joining the Tigers on a five-year deal and would not return to Gold Coast and sign a new contract if a trade was not completed.
Sources close to the negotiations said it was agreed Richmond's pick No.6 would go to the Suns, and the clubs were now haggling over the inclusion of Gold Coast's pick No.30.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/trade-wrap-tigers-cats-hit-stalemate-over-caddy-and-deledio
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Geelong are idiots
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Hawks already have targets with the rather late picks they got for Mitchell.
RFC can't even negotiate for lids.
stuff the lot of them
Right off.
It's not our fault Geelong have nothing to give for Lids.
Please, they have 40 players on their list to choose from. Plus this year's and next draft choices bar their first this year.
Everyone's talking down Lids this year as if he's Gumbleton number 2 when in reality 17 other clubs would take Lids in a heartbeat. Because he's a gun. Quality for quality or FO.
BTW Cats are better than us now, if we give them Lids they only get better and it's yet another year we can't beat them. So stuffing sad I say
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Hawks already have targets with the rather late picks they got for Mitchell.
RFC can't even negotiate for lids.
stuff the lot of them
Right off.
It's not our fault Geelong have nothing to give for Lids.
Please, they have 40 players on their list to choose from. Plus this year's and next draft choices bar their first this year.
Everyone's talking down Lids this year as if he's Gumbleton number 2 when in reality 17 other clubs would take Lids in a heartbeat. Because he's a gun. Quality for quality or FO.
BTW Cats are better than us now, if we give them Lids they only get better and it's yet another year we can't beat them. So stuffing sad I say
Sorry my post should have read, it's not our fault they have no picks to give nor players they want to give.
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If we do that deal pick 6 for him and in return pick 30 we might aswell close up shop we a basket case and I dont know why Balme was signed.
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No one can say Mitchell is not better then Prestia and he went at 14 and looks like Jager from the Suns going to hawks at 10 to.
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Wtf are we meant to do with 26 and 30?
Look what we did with 12
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Hawks already have targets with the rather late picks they got for Mitchell.
RFC can't even negotiate for lids.
stuff the lot of them
Right off.
It's not our fault Geelong have nothing to give for Lids.
Please, they have 40 players on their list to choose from. Plus this year's and next draft choices bar their first this year.
Everyone's talking down Lids this year as if he's Gumbleton number 2 when in reality 17 other clubs would take Lids in a heartbeat. Because he's a gun. Quality for quality or FO.
BTW Cats are better than us now, if we give them Lids they only get better and it's yet another year we can't beat them. So stuffing sad I say
Sorry my post should have read, it's not our fault they have no picks to give nor players they want to give.
I'm not having a dig, just frustrated thoughts in text. They're almost trying to extract him for peanuts.
at the end of the day out of 40 odd players he is in out top 5. He's not a fringe player, if we try to take away say a top 5 Norf or lions player for example we would have to pay the price.
Attitudes within media and supporters seem to be cmon Richmond don't be greedy let Lids go.
Anyone remember when we tried to get McIntosh from Norf? They wanted a premium in return and didn't even use him. Weve been too soft in the past, I hope now they say FO cats
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yep and now all over FB Im seeing articles saying things like, "they finally get a player that wants to go there(Prestia), if they dont do this deal, they'll tear the place down" I swear the media play us and see if we'll fold under mounting prssure, and when we invariably do, they laugh and high 5 each other down at HWT.
Stand strong and tell both the suns and the cats to GAGF. We are definitely seen as easy to strong arm, time to change that perception. Whats the worse that will happen? we'll keep pick 6 and miss out on Prestia big stuffing deal, its not like that decision is going to be the difference between a flag or just missing one
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GC have grown more and more frustrated with RIC's refusal to part w/ pick 6 for Prestia
From GC's perspective the deal is done, but RIC appear to be tentative, so much so that RIC officials actually no-showed a meeting w/ GC
While the reason RIC no-showed is unclear, GC swiftly struck up a chat w/ SYD, where the prospect of sending Prestia to Swans was raised
While it remains unlikely Prestia would change his preferred destination, the Swans showed keen interest in swooping on Prestia
The general perception among the majority of agents + officials is that RIC have had an oddly complacent and disorganised #AFLTrades period.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
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Dion Prestia still expected to land at Richmond despite delay over proposed pick swap
SAM LANDSBERGER
Herald Sun
October 14, 2016 8:36pm
RICHMOND’S desire to improve its standing in the second round of the draft has delayed its trade for Gold Coast midfielder Dion Prestia.
But the deal looks set to be finalised next week with the Suns poised to secure the Tigers’ No.6 draft pick.
That would deliver Gold Coast a draft bounty with three top-10 selections and academy star Jack Bowes, who has been likened to Simon Black.
The Tigers netted No.27 for departed free agent Tyrone Vickery and could try to rise higher into the second round, given that selection looms as their first choice on draft night.
The Suns hold picks 22, 24 and 26.
Under the AFL’s new draft system, a swap of pick 27 for 22 would deliver the Tigers a bonus 142 points.
That trade would see Richmond secure Prestia and pick 22 for picks six and 27.
Another trade being discussed is for Richmond to instead receive Gold Coast’s No.30 selection in exchange for a future second-round selection.
But the Suns have so far held firm that Prestia should command pick six in a clean trade.
The onballer has long committed to the Tigers on a five-year contract and his camp was last night supremely confident he would land at Punt Rd.
The Suns had held out some hope that if trade talks broke down, Prestia could stay at Metricon Stadium.
Suns football manager Marcus Ashcroft said he expected the clubs would broker a trade.
“Dion’s a little bit less complicated (than Jaeger O’Meara),” Ashcroft said.
“We’re quite confident we’ll get a deal done with Richmond sooner rather than later, and that all centres around their pick six.”
Prestia, 24, landed a rich offer from the Tigers after playing 95 games in six seasons at Gold Coast.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dion-prestia-still-expected-to-land-at-richmond-despite-delay-over-proposed-pick-swap/news-story/0bfaf351d0ba724c93813fa15ff0a097
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The general perception among the majority of agents + officials is that RIC have had an oddly complacent and disorganised #AFLTrades period.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
:lol
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Why must we give up pick 6 for Prestia but the Hawks will probably get O'Meara for next to nothing.
O'Meara was pick 1 & looks a better player.
.......Richmond FC, the joke that keeps one giving. :rollin
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yep and now all over FB Im seeing articles saying things like, "they finally get a player that wants to go there(Prestia), if they dont do this deal, they'll tear the place down" I swear the media play us and see if we'll fold under mounting prssure, and when we invariably do, they laugh and high 5 each other down at HWT.
Stand strong and tell both the suns and the cats to GAGF. We are definitely seen as easy to strong arm, time to change that perception. Whats the worse that will happen? we'll keep pick 6 and miss out on Prestia big stuffing deal, its not like that decision is going to be the difference between a flag or just missing one
Exactly :clapping
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Media whipping the Tiger army into a frenzy over this pick 6, last I heard we didn't even bother showing up to a meeting with the suns.
Hold firm boys & tell those GC chest beaters to GAGF.
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Media whipping the Tiger army into a frenzy over this pick 6, last I heard we didn't even bother showing up to a meeting with the suns.
Hold firm boys & tell those GC chest beaters to GAGF.
Yep, stuff them!!!
Pick 6 for Prestier and pick 30 is a Joke, let it go Tigers...
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The general perception among the majority of agents + officials is that RIC have had an oddly complacent and disorganised #AFLTrades period.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
:lol
Have to say Mr Whisper record thus far isnt great, made alot of sweeping statements that have been remotely close to final results
And when questioned or called out on it he just blocks people :lol
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If Gold Coast receives No.6 and 10 next week...
Suns' picks: 4, 6, 8, 10, 22, 24, 30, 44
Tigers' picks: 27, 46, 64
Hawks' picks: 57, 68, 70
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
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Why must we give up pick 6 for Prestia but the Hawks will probably get O'Meara for next to nothing.
O'Meara was pick 1 & looks a better player.
.......Richmond FC, the joke that keeps one giving. :rollin
how did they given up o'meara for next to nothing?
they gave up next year's 1st round + 2x 2nd rounds picks this year for that pick 10
last i checked, that's not nothing.
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Why must we give up pick 6 for Prestia but the Hawks will probably get O'Meara for next to nothing.
O'Meara was pick 1 & looks a better player.
.......Richmond FC, the joke that keeps one giving. :rollin
how did they given up o'meara for next to nothing?
they gave up next year's 1st round + 2x 2nd rounds picks this year for that pick 10
last i checked, that's not nothing.
:clapping
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Yeah Rough Trade Whisperer gets his snoz out of joint fast, little sensitive about Sheahan too, anyone who is worried about a senile village idiot like Sheahan is a bit tender lol
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Why must we give up pick 6 for Prestia but the Hawks will probably get O'Meara for next to nothing.
O'Meara was pick 1 & looks a better player.
.......Richmond FC, the joke that keeps one giving. :rollin
how did they given up o'meara for next to nothing?
they gave up next year's 1st round + 2x 2nd rounds picks this year for that pick 10
last i checked, that's not nothing.
:clapping
Never let the truth get in the way of a chance to bag the club.
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Walk away Tigers.
He isn't worth pick 6 so tell them to GF.
At the end of the day he wants out which makes it very difficult for them to play hardball.
Last I heard they wanted players, offer them BEllis and Edwards/Conca/Lennon
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If we cough up pick 6 without a first coming back I'll start stomping my feet with the guidos.
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The only reason they want pick 6 is because they observed how we were bent over (dont even argue the toe touching we got on that super deal) and they figure if Carltoon can do it why not them.
Then all the clubs have a big party, RFC doesn't get invited, and they all howl with laughter at our stupidity.
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should just hold firm, request pick 10 back or walk away.
let him go through to the PSD if we had to
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Pick 6 for a player injured last 2 year not even elite.While Hill goes to Freo for pick 23 from hawks twice the better player that's how you trade ,but this is Richmond get sucked in.Even in something in return as I said before we need 2 picks in the mid 20 if pick 6 going or walk away.
Pick 22 for Prestia and pick 6 would be OK.
Prestia is a decent player. He's not a gun but he's a pooot load better than most of our squib eye midfielders. Got runs on the board and if we get 16-18 games a year out of him he's worth pick 6 when 22 is coming back. Or about pick 14-16 straight up.
You may be right,but how Hill goes for pick 23 two time premiership player while we always get bent over or even Mitchell to hawks from swans for pick 14 both a lot better same age bracket to.Need to hold firm simple and walk away.
Hill is a soft outside player who played for the best team at the time. He's decent but he's not that good. Reminds me of Lewis Jetta, goes to an average team and hasn't been heard of since
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Unfortunately I have no trust in RFC that they would use pick 6 in the draft to get a gun kid...So I'm leaning to getting prestia with it,more a case of the devil you know
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You want pick 6 from my main man...
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/upKWoKaC7YpKE/200_s.gif)
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GC have grown more and more frustrated with RIC's refusal to part w/ pick 6 for Prestia
From GC's perspective the deal is done, but RIC appear to be tentative, so much so that RIC officials actually no-showed a meeting w/ GC
While the reason RIC no-showed is unclear, GC swiftly struck up a chat w/ SYD, where the prospect of sending Prestia to Swans was raised
While it remains unlikely Prestia would change his preferred destination, the Swans showed keen interest in swooping on Prestia
The general perception among the majority of agents + officials is that RIC have had an oddly complacent and disorganised #AFLTrades period.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/with_replies
Not that I believe this joke of a "source" but what exactly do the Swans have to offer? Correct me if I'm wrong but GC want picks and Sydneys first is 14? Funnily enough, that's about Prestia's value but I can't see how they would get it done if GC wanted our pick 6 so bad
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Sydney could not hold onto Mitchell because of cap pressure. How could they afford $750K for Prestia?
That guy is deluded.
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Would love Taranto but if we give up 6 and still can snag Powell -Pepper/Poholke & Willy Rioli with later picks I'll be happy...add Nankervis & Caddy....get Ratugolea, Darcy Cameron & Shane Nelson (an upgrade on plodders like Lambert & Marcon)...rookie Kirby...laughin'... :shh
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Richmond will receive a second-round draft pick as compensation for losing Ty Vickery as a free agent to Hawthorn but are yet to complete the trade for Dion Prestia from Gold Coast, a deal that will involve the Tigers' first pick (6).
Richmond is hopeful of getting another pick in the twenties back from Gold Coast – the Suns could end up with four top 10 picks as well as four in the 20s – as part of that trade.
http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2016-jordan-lewis-and-hawthorn-in-stalemate-20161016-gs3eom.html
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:help
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:help :help
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Would love Taranto but if we give up 6 and still can snag Powell -Pepper/Poholke & Willy Rioli with later picks I'll be happy...add Nankervis & Caddy....get Ratugolea, Darcy Cameron & Shane Nelson (an upgrade on plodders like Lambert & Marcon)...rookie Kirby...laughin'... :shh
Hmm, that's a lot of players just to make you happy ... did Santa look at you funny when you reeled off your list? :santa
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Dion Prestia is certain to get to the Tigers. The deal could happen today or the standoff could continue for another day. Pick No.6 is agreed to make its way to Gold Coast, but there has been haggling over later picks. The Tigers have been after the Suns' pick No.30 as well as Prestia. He won't be at the Suns' next year.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk
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This pick 6 is certain to be a genuine superstar
There is nothing more certain than this happening
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Prestia is a more accomplished player than Mitchell. Injury prone is my concern. We are also set to receive a decent pick in return.
Geez..... :-\
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Prestia is a more accomplished player than Mitchell. Injury prone is my concern. We are also set to receive a decent pick in return.
Geez..... :-\
You call pick 30 a decent pick when you a offering pick 6 not even for a A grader and as you said injury concerns. Pick 6 could be anything .Mitchell has proved his worth take him anyday over Prestia.
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Please use a bigger font, highlight and unerline all capitals and put them in italic or you will nor be heard.
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Reports of Lewis being traded to Melbourne for a 4th round pick.....Hawks must be a BUNCH OF CLOWNS. If the Tigers did a deal like this with Deledio could you imagine the meltdown. You don't think Prestia is close to Mitchell well in my eyes they are around similar quality. If we get back a pick in the 2nd round I'm fine with this :clapping
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If we give up pick 6 we should get pick their pick 22 back for it to be a win.
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Please use a bigger font, highlight and unerline all capitals and put them in italic or you will nor be heard.
How ironic coming from the biggest sook :shh
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Reports of Lewis being traded to Melbourne for a 4th round pick.....Hawks must be a BUNCH OF CLOWNS. If the Tigers did a deal like this with Deledio could you imagine the meltdown. You don't think Prestia is close to Mitchell well in my eyes they are around similar quality. If we get back a pick in the 2nd round I'm fine with this :clapping
How Lewis comes in to this I dont know one is a 29 year end of career.The club has tryed this recruiting from other clubs and been burned paying way overs Yarran Hammer etc .Tell me a you happy to go to the draft with first picks at 27 and 30 considering the year we had and our list????.
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Please use a bigger font, highlight and unerline all capitals and put them in italic or you will nor be heard.
How ironic coming from the biggest sook :shh
Well said !.Some fans here want the football department gone and cleaned up yet support poor decisions like this.
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Please use a bigger font, highlight and unerline all capitals and put them in italic or you will nor be heard.
How ironic coming from the biggest sook :shh
STOP IT.
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Prestia is a nobody who sits in the stands :rollin Forget about him. He will become a list clogger like Edwards
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Is Prestia our "big fish"?
Are we just scared to go through another trade period not picking up anyone worth while?
Surely this must be the case as he is not worth pick 6 going off his last 2 years.
Do we still have a war chest of cash?
If so we have pick 6 and heaps of cash, we should be able to do better than Prestia.
Offer West Coast pick 6 for Darling and pay him $800k a year.
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This is what happens when you agree to terms too early and become committed to the player. GC now have us by the balls.. We really need to walk away but we can't due to the previous committement. Harwick has his fingers all over this as he has been heavily involved in this Prestia trade. We will do it at the expense of pick 6 in a very good draft...
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If anything RFC need to trade Pick 6 for a Ruckman, Backman or Forward. They desperately need a Ruck cause Hampson is a opposition tap merchant :snidegrin
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Is Prestia our "big fish"?
Are we just scared to go through another trade period not picking up anyone worth while?
Surely this must be the case as he is not worth pick 6 going off his last 2 years.
Do we still have a war chest of cash?
If so we have pick 6 and heaps of cash, we should be able to do better than Prestia.
Offer West Coast pick 6 for Darling and pay him $800k a year.
The war chest will be needed to pay out Dudwick next year thanks to an imcompetent board
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This is what happens when you agree to terms too early and become committed to the player. GC now have us by the balls.. We really need to walk away but we can't due to the previous committement. Harwick has his fingers all over this as he has been heavily involved in this Prestia trade. We will do it at the expense of pick 6 in a very good draft...
we seem to do this time and again
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Circus
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As if the rfc will come out on top in any given circumstance where they are forced to match wits with
anyone or anything. :shh
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This is what happens when you agree to terms too early and become committed to the player. GC now have us by the balls.. We really need to walk away but we can't due to the previous committement. Harwick has his fingers all over this as he has been heavily involved in this Prestia trade. We will do it at the expense of pick 6 in a very good draft...
Worth quoting again
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WHAT A JOKE OF CLUB PICK 6 ONLY AT RICHMOND NO WONDER CLUBS LAUGH AT US.HAWKS PICKUP MITCHELL WITH 14 AND WERE GIVING UP 6 FOR A PLAYER NOT CLOSE TO HIM.SO WERE GOING TO THE DRAFT WITH NOT EVEN ONE PICK IN THE TOP 20 AFTER A DISASTER OF YEAR BUNCH OF CLOWNS :banghead :banghead
Please use a bigger font, highlight and unerline all capitals and put them in italic or you will nor be heard.
How ironic coming from the biggest sook :shh
STOP IT.
JK :)
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AFL website via twitter reporting
Prestia deal getting closer, finer details being nutted out
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"Dion we think will be similar, we're not too far away from getting him locked in," Ashcroft said.
Gold Coast wants a straight swap for Richmond's No. 6 selection in return for Prestia, while the Tigers want to bring in a second-round pick. Gold Coast currently holds picks No. 24 and 26.
It lost No.30 to Port Adelaide in the three-way deal that saw Hanley leave the Lions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-18/gun-suns-nearly-done
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Tigers poised to land Dion Prestia
Emma Quayle, Michael Gleeson
The Age
18 October 2016
Richmond are poised to finally secure Dion Prestia from Gold Coast as the trade period draws to a close.
The Suns and Richmond were close to closing a deal in which the Tigers would concede pick 6 for the former top 10 draft pick.
Under the deal, Richmond would give the Suns their first pick, as well a future second-round pick.
The Tigers would gain Prestia as well as a second-round selection this year, strengthening their position in the coming draft.
The clubs were negotiating over whether the pick returned to Richmond would be 24 or 26.
But both were confident on Tuesday night that a deal was extremely close to being done.
The Tigers already hold one second-round pick, the compensation for Tyrone Vickery's move to Hawthorn as a free agent.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-tigers-poised-to-land-dion-prestia-20161018-gs51ll.html
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As well as a future secnd rounder. :lol
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They think they're at Hawthorn level :shh
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lol at Dan staring them down refusing to budge on pick 24 instead of 26 regardless of the fact we are getting screwed overall.
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As well as a future secnd rounder. :lol
Ouch
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It's lube time again. Just close your eyes and it'll be over before you know it.
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They are like politicians Betamax penny Dimma
Selling the future like it doesn't matter cause they'll be dead / not here
Short term gain
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Tigers poised to land Dion Prestia
Emma Quayle, Michael Gleeson
The Age
18 October 2016
Richmond are poised to finally secure Dion Prestia from Gold Coast as the trade period draws that o a close.
The Suns and Richmond were close to closing a deal in which the Tigers would concede pick 6 for the former top 10 draft pick.
Under the deal, Richmond would give the Suns their first pick, as well a future second-round pick.
The Tigers would gain Prestia as well as a second-round selection this year, strengthening their position in the coming draft.
The clubs were negotiating over whether the pick returned to Richmond would be 24 or 26.
But both were confident on Tuesday night that a deal was extremely close to being done.
The Tigers already hold one second-round pick, the compensation for Tyrone Vickery's move to Hawthorn as a free agent.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-tigers-poised-to-land-dion-prestia-20161018-gs51ll.html
A future 2nd rounder GAGF'd Dan u stuffen dud. Stuff me can we be any more stupid
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That's about the same as the Scum paid for Treloar FMFD our club is stupid
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Actually think it's a good deal.
Originally GC offered pick 30
22 or 24 coupled with pick 27 gives the opportunity to trade back into the 1st round
Have said it before wouldn't matter what the deal was the club will get bagged / whacked for it.
Some laughable talk about Prestia.
Kid is a gun inside mid.
Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.
Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.
Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.
Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert :lol :lol :lol
Watch him play, look at his numbers. And he's the type of inside midfielder we sorely need.
On what would you suggest he isn't a gun?
No need to be a bully just because you have nothing constructive to say!
this was posted an the other Prestia thread and I agree
He is an upgrade on so many on our list it's scary. First player I can think of is Miles. I love the way Miles goes about it but I reckon prestia is makred improvement on him
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
get your point Willy
and I don't want to be sounding like I am defending the club here
But this is one deal....
Once it's done who's to say there won't be more and we get that pick back?
that's why I am prepared to wait until Thursday at 2pm to cast judgement
So much more can happen.... there's the Nankervis deal to be done etc
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Cause we signed up all the duds
There is little left to give away
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Cause we signed up all the duds
There is little left to give away
Actually can think of couple of non duds that would get us decent picks and I am not talking about the remaining top 4 (Rance / Martin / Reiwoldt / Cotchin) but I doubt we'd be that game
And some on here would go into meltdown, worse than have these past 7 days ;D
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
get your point Willy
and I don't want to be sounding like I am defending the club here
But this is one deal....
Once it's done who's to say there won't be more and we get that pick back?
that's why I am prepared to wait until Thursday at 2pm to cast judgement
So much more can happen.... there's the Nankervis deal to be done etc
That's ridiculous logic. Any other deal would be seperate to this deal. If we get another second rounder back through another trade then all that means is that we could have had two second rounders.
You have to judge each trade on its merits and in this case the suns have done a number on us.
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
Hope we don't give up that Pick 24 for the Sydney Ruckman!
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
Dont like it at all. Our 2nd rounder next year is too much.
Unless.of course we're getting another 2nd rounder in FA...
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Surely we wouldn't :o
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Welcome to tigerland
An expensive investment good luck
Midfield looks stronger on paper: martin - Cotchin - Prestia - deledio?/caddy?
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
As a stand alone deal I'm not sure I like it. If it allows us to complete some other deals then I will look at the overall.
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Cause we signed up all the duds
There is little left to give away
Actually can think of couple of non duds that would get us decent picks and I am not talking about the remaining top 4 (Rance / Martin / Reiwoldt / Cotchin) but I doubt we'd be that game
And some on here would go into meltdown, worse than have these past 7 days ;D
Miles?
Pretty much anyone bar rioli should be thought about
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In early Bents! Clever.
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When do we start a "trade Prestia" thread?
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Dud, delist.
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Will be like a new recruit
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Good bloke
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Good bloke
Drinks rum and coke
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6 games in 2017 :clapping :clapping
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And Yarran to jog laps because hes 'not quite feeling right' again
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Grimes. Rance. Mcintosh
Yarren. Astbury. Markov.
Deledio. Prestia. Cellis.
Rioli. Jack. Cotchin.
Martin. Griff. Kirby.
Nark. Vlastuin. Miles.
Chol
Short
Menadue
Canstandya
:shh
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Fantastic person. ;D
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Cause we signed up all the duds
There is little left to give away
Actually can think of couple of non duds that would get us decent picks and I am not talking about the remaining top 4 (Rance / Martin / Reiwoldt / Cotchin) but I doubt we'd be that game
And some on here would go into meltdown, worse than have these past 7 days ;D
S lloyd?
If so good time to sell - while his value is high
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Trains well apparently
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
get your point Willy
and I don't want to be sounding like I am defending the club here
But this is one deal....
Once it's done who's to say there won't be more and we get that pick back?
that's why I am prepared to wait until Thursday at 2pm to cast judgement
So much more can happen.... there's the Nankervis deal to be done etc
That's ridiculous logic. Any other deal would be seperate to this deal. If we get another second rounder back through another trade then all that means is that we could have had two second rounders.
You have to judge each trade on its merits and in this case the suns have done a number on us.
Again get your logic
But will have to agree to disagree
My take is if getting this deal done now enables us to move onto other possible deals that gets us back into the 1st round then this deal would have been worth it (even though right now I reckoj its worth it). Hypothetical if we can package up say a Miles or Edwards plus pick 27 to get back on the 1st round, then this Prestia deal is a win / win.
Is it possible? Yep i think it is. Will it happen? Dont know and won't until 2pm on Thrusday. So until i see what are final picks are cant see the point of bagging any deals.
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Miles for 27
For 17 or something
Seems a pretty weak deal to me ...
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Miles for 27
For 17 or something
Seems a pretty weak deal to me ...
Read what I wrote
I said miles + pick 27 (Vickery compo pick) packaged up tp get a 1st rounder
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Miles AND 27
For 17, or something like that
Seems a pretty weak deal to me ...
Prestia reinforces the mids. Losing miles you are almost back to were u started. And without #6 ...
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gee wiz.. :(
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
get your point Willy
and I don't want to be sounding like I am defending the club here
But this is one deal....
Once it's done who's to say there won't be more and we get that pick back?
that's why I am prepared to wait until Thursday at 2pm to cast judgement
So much more can happen.... there's the Nankervis deal to be done etc
That's ridiculous logic. Any other deal would be seperate to this deal. If we get another second rounder back through another trade then all that means is that we could have had two second rounders.
You have to judge each trade on its merits and in this case the suns have done a number on us.
Again get your logic
But will have to agree to disagree
My take is if getting this deal done now enables us to move onto other possible deals that gets us back into the 1st round then this deal would have been worth it (even though right now I reckoj its worth it). Hypothetical if we can package up say a Miles or Edwards plus pick 27 to get back on the 1st round, then this Prestia deal is a win / win.
Is it possible? Yep i think it is. Will it happen? Dont know and won't until 2pm on Thrusday. So until i see what are final picks are cant see the point of bagging any deals.
Yep, agree to disagree.
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Miles AND 27
For 17, or something like that
Seems a pretty weak deal to me ...
Prestia reinforces the mids. Losing miles you are almost back to were u started. And without #6 ...
Perhaps better than 17?
Prestia is an upgrade on Miles, better player IMESHO. Actually been wondering where Miles now falls in the pecking order...
Deep draft, experts saying not much betwenn the first 25. Get back in first round is the key
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Welcome to tigerland
An expensive investment good luck
Midfield looks stronger on paper: martin - Cotchin - Prestia - deledio?/caddy?
You forgot to add conca, BEllis, CEllis and grigg woah :dancing
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stuff me if we do, I will lose it like the old days
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Welcome to tigerland
An expensive investment good luck
Midfield looks stronger on paper: martin - Cotchin - Prestia - deledio?/caddy?
You forgot to add conca, BEllis, CEllis and grigg woah :dancing
Prestia
Deledio / caddy
Martin
Cotchin
C Ellis
Miles
Looks ok
Bellis and grigg should be shot
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
Hope we don't give up that Pick 24 for the Sydney Ruckman!
Royal reaming
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There is some d1(kneads running our club at the minute but anyone that can defend this trade, if what they are reporting is true, is just as stupid.
Pick 6 should be untouchable just like Dusty, Jack, Rance and Cotch.
Funny enough they are our best players and all we're top 10 selections other than Rance who was still a first round selection at 18.
One minute it's pick 6 for Prestia and their second rounder, now we are giving away our second round pick next year in a better draft with a massive possibility that our draft position will be better than this year because we are coached and ran by imbeciles... and defended by them.
It doesn't matter what other trades we make, this one will still be the one we remember- just like the Hampson trade.
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arse tearing trade that one, the Deledio deal will turn out a spit roast just to one up this reaming lol
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:santa
There is some d1(kneads running our club at the minute but anyone that can defend this trade, if what they are reporting is true, is just as stupid.
Pick 6 should be untouchable just like Dusty, Jack, Rance and Cotch.
Funny enough they are our best players and all we're top 10 selections other than Rance who was still a first round selection at 18.
One minute it's pick 6 for Prestia and their second rounder, now we are giving away our second round pick next year in a better draft with a massive possibility that our draft position will be better than this year because we are coached and ran by imbeciles... and defended by them.
It doesn't matter what other trades we make, this one will still be the one we remember- just like the Hampson trade.
Agreed
Should be aiming for at least the 6th best player in the pool and growin a star
Very strange
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Do they actually think we are a top 8 side!!
Why would we trade away pick 6 while we are where we are!!
Surely there is someone in their that has a brain and can see we need to keep this pick. For a long time now we have fought to keep our first pick because we new the importance of it- now with us going backwards we decide to trade it away.
NFI the club.
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locked & loaded
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Don't worry people, we got Neil now. All's good.
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Locked and loaded for Halfstep's "quick bounce" back into the finals... :gotigers
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And it only cost the future
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:snidegrin lolz
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There is some d1(kneads running our club at the minute but anyone that can defend this trade, if what they are reporting is true, is just as stupid.
Pick 6 should be untouchable just like Dusty, Jack, Rance and Cotch.
Funny enough they are our best players and all we're top 10 selections other than Rance who was still a first round selection at 18.
One minute it's pick 6 for Prestia and their second rounder, now we are giving away our second round pick next year in a better draft with a massive possibility that our draft position will be better than this year because we are coached and ran by imbeciles... and defended by them.
It doesn't matter what other trades we make, this one will still be the one we remember- just like the Hampson trade.
You forgot the McMahon trade, Biddiscombe trade, Hilton trade, Fatty Farmer trade Ottnes trade......in fact the vast majority of our trades. A stuffen dud club run by a bunch of stuffwits
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But we lose a future second rounder. So it's basically Prestia for pick 6.
I want Prestia but he's not worth pick 6.
No way, his recent knee injury makes him a late 1st rounder at best.
With all of our B graders really being C graders, you could see how the player side of the negotiations would be difficult.
But, in our favor, GCS are already loaded with picks, here's a player who has had a 'clean out' of his knee at age 23, and here's a player they could end up with nothing for. RFC has the upper hand in this negotiation and need to harden up.
2nd round pick and a player or he is off to Essendon.
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Dude we already gave 6 for him
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Well if so then the other bargaining chip we had, being able to withdraw from this at any time, was also wasted!
Poor negotiations.
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(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/biggest-catfish-ever-caught.jpg)
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Does he sign a good autograph
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Also, they are offering us the pick that we gave them for the Yarran upgrade, which is rubbing our faces in it harder than Karmichael Hunt did.
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(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/biggest-catfish-ever-caught.jpg)
:cheers
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:nope
(http://www.littlefish.org.uk/files/littlefish-hand-logo-2.jpg)
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A bit short to be seen in the car park.
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
Hope we don't give up that Pick 24 for the Sydney Ruckman!
Royal reaming
Is that better than peasant or commoner reaming?
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Get him a box
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Done Deal
Apparently ...
Prestia and Pick 24 FOR Pick 6 and 2017 2nd Round Pick
Hope we don't give up that Pick 24 for the Sydney Ruckman!
Plus GC pick 44 is the rumour
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So if my numbers are right we will effectively give GC more than what Hawks eventually hand to them for omeara and swans for Mitchell
Another scintillating draft period by the RFC. Balme has certainly weaved his magic.
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So if my numbers are right we will effectively give GC more than what Hawks eventually hand to them for omeara and swans for Mitchell
Another scintillating draft period by the RFC. Balme has certainly weaved his magic.
Would argue no (and btw the O'Meara deal is close to falling over) only because something = 2 picks are coming back our way
but keep on a whacking ;D
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Pick 44 in return from GC we must be mad :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Pick 44 in return from GC we must be mad :banghead :banghead :banghead
If it gets us Nankervis, the pick is good.
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If swans want me than that they are cheeky pricked
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So if my numbers are right we will effectively give GC more than what Hawks eventually hand to them for omeara and swans for Mitchell
Another scintillating draft period by the RFC. Balme has certainly weaved his magic.
Would argue no (and btw the O'Meara deal is close to falling over) only because something = 2 picks are coming back our way
but keep on a whacking ;D
How can you defend these morons when they have done SFA.
outstanding really.
unless that pick is late teen or early 20's and not a future going back to them then this trade is bungled
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Don't worry guys, we got this under control.
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Well, getting an extra later pick back would improve the deal slightly for us. It's still in GC's favour though.
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Pick 44 in return from GC we must be mad :banghead :banghead :banghead
Thought GC were using pick 44 to get Wilts from the Magpies?
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I hope its not pick 44 what the hell will we do with that send it to Sydney for nankervis
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Paperwork about to be lodged. Sounds like its done.
I hope its not pick 44 what the hell will we do with that send it to Sydney for nankervis
Yes. But i want pick 22 and 44.
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Excuse my ignorance but is the deal done?
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Excuse my ignorance but is the deal done?
should be by 2pm tomorrow still trying to work out some finer details :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Excuse my ignorance but is the deal done?
Hope not
Give 6 / lids and rape gws :pray
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Excuse my ignorance but is the deal done?
Hope not
Give 6 / lids and rape gws :pray
Keep Pick 6 give Lids & Titch & rape GWS
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done deal. No matter which way you sugar coat it its prestia for 6.
Well done Balme u flog. Should have stayed where you are.
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done deal. No matter which way you sugar coat it its prestia for 6.
Well done Balme u flog. Should have stayed where you are.
:rollin
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done deal. No matter which way you sugar coat it its prestia for 6.
Well done Balme u flog. Should have stayed where you are.
:rollin
I feel like WP knows something. :shh
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Something is a flutter perhaps
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It's done
Pick 6 and next years second rounder for
Prestia and pick 24.
Theory is whilst next year is a stronger draft at the top, this draft bats deeper.
Really hope we get a ripper deal for kids especially given we'll be paying part of his wage for one or two years
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done deal. No matter which way you sugar coat it its prestia for 6.
Well done Balme u flog. Should have stayed where you are.
:rollin
I feel like WP knows something. :shh
Nah she probably just thinks it's funny that Balme is getting abused already :lol
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It's done
Pick 6 and next years second rounder for
Prestia and pick 24.
Theory is whilst next year is a stronger draft at the top, this draft bats deeper.
Really hope we get a ripper deal for kids especially given we'll be paying part of his wage for one or two years
has it been officially confirmed?
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Yes
ESPN Australia & NZ
Twitter › ESPNAusNZ
BREAKING: Dion Prestia set to be announced as a @Richmond_FC player. es.pn/2efaKcR #AFLTrades
7 mins ago - Twitter
FOX SPORTS News
Twitter › FOXSportsNews
DION A DONE DEAL: @Richmond_FC secure midfielder Dion Prestia and pick 24, while @GoldCoastSUNS receive pick 6 in t… twitter.com/i/web/st…
3 mins ago - Twitter
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Just confirmed on Fox Sports News....
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Really hope we get a ripper deal for kids especially given we'll be paying part of his wage for one or two years
Can only be paying for it for one year as that's all he's contracted for? I'm not concerned about it because whether we get a draft pick or a player they will be on less and we'll be paying the same, if not less than if he were to remain anyway. I'm sure the guidos will pee and moan but that's their hobby.
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The reset has been delayed once more. The 'save our skins' motto has been internalised. At least he'll have plenty of perennially injured mates (Conca,Cellis and Yarran) in the rehab group.
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See you in two years Taranto/Brodie/SPS.....develop him well GC.....
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Pick 6 for Prestia?
We just bent over and took it quietly.
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See you in two years Taranto/Brodie/SPS.....develop him well GC.....
Makes me sick! SPS is exactly what we need.
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See you in two years Taranto/Brodie/SPS.....develop him well GC.....
Makes me sick! SPS is exactly what we need.
Francis Jackson - "Who's SPS?"
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im not fussed....past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour
on that basis we would've f**ked up pick 6 anyway..let alone another kid's future
we will have prestia pick 15, 24 caddy and toby
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im not fussed....past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour
on that basis we would've f**ked up pick 6 anyway..let alone another kid's future
we will have prestia pick 15, 24 caddy and toby
Pick 15?
Rest I agree with
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lids to GWS for 15
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
THATS A CRAP DEAL. BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
THATS A CRAP DEAL. BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
If we finish top four next year then our second rounder is late 30s (not 22)
:thumbsup
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
Theyre a pack of arseholes that club
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
Read the last line of the quote.
At least yarren and Prestia are a grade talent
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
stuff YOU MEMBERS YOU PACK OF stuffwits !!!!!
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Still up on the club website....clearly mocking us....
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-10-13/potential-pick-6-jrz
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It's done. Confirmed by club in an email.
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members supporters! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
stuff YOU MEMBERS supporters YOU PACK OF stuffWITS !!!!!
EFA for you blokes
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:bow :bow :bow we have signed someon in this trade period dion to speak at 4pm today
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WHY THE HELL DID WE GIVE UP NEXT YEARS SECOND ROUNDER?
SO ITS BASICALLY STRAIGHT SWAP PICK 6 FOR PRESTIA.
BLOODY NOT HAPPY :banghead :banghead :banghead
But don't you know.....it's the fault of the members! Remember, the club stated that they couldn't cope with a full reset.
Read the last line of the quote.
At least yarren and Prestia are a grade talent
A grade for screwing Richmond over.
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I think we got jibbed
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Deal:
🐯⬅️ Prestia, 2016 Pick 24
☀️⬅️ 2016 Pick 6, 2017 second round pick.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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Tigers land Prestia
richmondfc.com.au
October 19, 2016 2:12 PM
Richmond has secured talented midfielder, Dion Prestia from the Gold Coast Suns on a five-year contract, in exchange for pick six in this year’s National AFL Draft, and Richmond’s future second round selection in the 2017 Draft.
The Club also receives the Suns’ second round selection, no. 24 in the 2016 Draft as part of the deal.
The out-of-contract midfielder nominated Richmond as his preferred destination at the end of the 2016 home-and-away season to continue his football career.
The 24-year-old was drafted to the Gold Coast Suns with the Club’s first round selection (no. 9 overall) in the 2010 National AFL Draft, he has played 95 games and kicked 30 goals in his six seasons at the Suns.
In the 2016 home-and-away season, the inside midfielder averaged 25.9 disposals (10.4 contested), 5.4 tackles, and 4.2 clearances per game.
Richmond’s General Manager – Football Talent, Dan Richardson said the Club is thrilled to secure Prestia to Tigerland.
“We identified Dion earlier this year as a player that we wanted at our football club, he’s a power runner, highly competitive and impacts games significantly,” Richardson said.
“Dion’s management made it clear to us that he was keen to return to Victoria to be closer to his family, and we’re really pleased for our Club that he chose Richmond as his preferred destination.
“At 24 years of age, Dion has many years of good football ahead of him, he’s also a person of great character, and being vice-captain at the Gold Coast Suns, he has great leadership qualities also.
“We thank both the Gold Coast Suns and Dion’s manager, Marty Pask for their cooperation in getting the deal done, and we look forward to seeing Dion running around in the Yellow and Black very soon.”
Dion Prestia will speak to the media at approximately 3.45pm on Wednesday afternoon.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-19/tigers-land-prestia-jrz
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so he's not really that small?
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Well seen it's done it's no use bitching about it. Glad the trade weeks were not wasted
Welcome to Tigerland Dion Prestia.
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Biggest recruit since N Brown.
Better go touch some wood.
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Francis looks good, Marchbank I don't know about but he's obviously rated but both are a bit early to tell
Schanrenberg can't get on the park, Macrae is Ellis mk 2, Wingard is good
The rest are pretty much duds - Rohan can go alright but inconsistent
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Dion Prestia: I always knew I would end up at Richmond. Since I made my decision and talked to the Club I knew it was going to happen.
DP: Coming home was a big factor. Picking Richmond, it was probably their list. Being able to play with the likes of Martin, Cotchin....
DP: Myself and the Club (Gold Coast) agree it was all good terms. We kept them in the loop the whole time.
DP: on his knee, I just had an arthroscope. I've started running... I'm sure I'll be eased into the pre-season and be right to go Round 1
DP: I've known (Caddy) since I was about 13 through junior footy, then we lived together on the coast for a few years
DP: (Richmond) is such a big Club and they've got a massive fan base... I'm excited to play at the MCG in front of big crowds
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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I'd take marchbank, McRae and Rohan any day of the week.
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Prestia is a gun - welcome :clapping
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Dion Prestia: I always knew I would end up at Richmond. Since I made my decision and talked to the Club I knew it was going to happen.
DP: Coming home was a big factor. Picking Richmond, it was probably their list. Being able to play with the likes of Martin, Cotchin....
DP: Myself and the Club (Gold Coast) agree it was all good terms. We kept them in the loop the whole time.
DP: on his knee, I just had an arthroscope. I've started running... I'm sure I'll be eased into the pre-season and be right to go Round 1
DP: I've known (Caddy) since I was about 13 through junior footy, then we lived together on the coast for a few years
DP: (Richmond) is such a big Club and they've got a massive fan base... I'm excited to play at the MCG in front of big crowds
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
LMAO
Who wrote that for him
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so he's not really that small?
Hmmm is that a tiger new sponsor i see on the footy ;D
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Looks like a small 'Garbo'.
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Welcome to Tiger land Dion
Great result, good trading
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Francis looks good, Marchbank I don't know about but he's obviously rated but both are a bit early to tell
Schanrenberg can't get on the park, Macrae is Ellis mk 2, Wingard is good
The rest are pretty much duds - Rohan can go alright but inconsistent
What a horrible thing to say about Macrae. That's just mean.
And Francis looks pretty special too.
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Glad we drafted a fellow wog. We play with passion.
We need more. Especially with deledio heading off.
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Glad we drafted a fellow wog. We play with passion.
We need more. Especially with deledio heading off.
:clapping
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Glad we drafted a fellow wog. We play with passion.
We need more. Especially with deledio heading off.
Good to see you've come around - can play mini wog
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Francis looks good, Marchbank I don't know about but he's obviously rated but both are a bit early to tell
Schanrenberg can't get on the park, Macrae is Ellis mk 2, Wingard is good
The rest are pretty much duds - Rohan can go alright but inconsistent
What a horrible thing to say about Macrae. That's just mean.
And Francis looks pretty special too.
Maybe a bit harsh but that's the impression I get from my doggies mates. Their complaints are the exact same as ours.
Yeah I mentioned he looks good but as I also said, bit early to tell
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Francis looks good, Marchbank I don't know about but he's obviously rated but both are a bit early to tell
Schanrenberg can't get on the park, Macrae is Ellis mk 2, Wingard is good
The rest are pretty much duds - Rohan can go alright but inconsistent
What a horrible thing to say about Macrae. That's just mean.
And Francis looks pretty special too.
Maybe a bit harsh but that's the impression I get from my doggies mates. Their complaints are the exact same as ours.
Yeah I mentioned he looks good but as I also said, bit early to tell
Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
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McCrae is a gun. More outside than in, but can work inside too quite well for a light frame. As opposed to BEllis, he rarely misses a target by hand or foot.
I follow him closely because he is a friend of some of my daughters friends. Not sure why people are criticising him.
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McCrae is a gun. More outside than in, but can work inside too quite well for a light frame. As opposed to BEllis, he rarely misses a target by hand or foot.
I follow him closely because he is a friend of some of my daughters friends. Not sure why people are criticising him.
Agree
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He's pretty inside too
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
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McCrae is a gun. More outside than in, but can work inside too quite well for a light frame. As opposed to BEllis, he rarely misses a target by hand or foot.
I follow him closely because he is a friend of some of my daughters friends. Not sure why people are criticising him.
Gun kid and gun player!
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
What a carry on
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I with the Gaelic Grump on McCrae, however one should never, ever cite fantasy football stats in a argument....
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
Sorry, what? Not sure how I came into your headspace and am now cowering but if that's how you feel, then good for you. I'm glad you feel some sort of superiority for disagreeing with someone on the internet. Wonder why that is?
Hey I didn't have Johannisen as my pick for Norm Smith but I guess simple minds just assume because I don't agree with one thing, it means I agree with the other. I would have picked a few others before him, one of them being Boyd ;), alas.
Lastly, that post had nothing to do with you except you were one of two people who mentioned 'members', assuming I'm thinking of the right one. Rather, it was a tongue in cheek comment directed towards ol' mate YBB. I know it's difficult for you to think that maybe I didn't even realise it was you who posted because I don't love you as much as you love yourself but it's true.
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Kennedy should've won the Norm Smith....was easily as good Ablett Sr, Buckley & Judd were, if not Maurice.... BOG by a mile.....
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I with the Gaelic Grump on McCrae, however one should never, ever cite fantasy football stats in a argument....
Ha Ha....first time in my life that I've been called a "grump"....but I'll cop that sweet. I take your point regarding DT points, that's why I coupled them with actual stats in context.
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
Sorry, what? Not sure how I came into your headspace and am now cowering but if that's how you feel, then good for you. I'm glad you feel some sort of superiority for disagreeing with someone on the internet. Wonder why that is?
Hey I didn't have Johannisen as my pick for Norm Smith but I guess simple minds just assume because I don't agree with one thing, it means I agree with the other. I would have picked a few others before him, one of them being Boyd ;), alas.
Lastly, that post had nothing to do with you except you were one of two people who mentioned 'members', assuming I'm thinking of the right one. Rather, it was a tongue in cheek comment directed towards ol' mate YBB. I know it's difficult for you to think that maybe I didn't even realise it was you who posted because I don't love you as much as you love yourself but it's true.
If only you could progress an argument as adeptly as you regress one....sigh....
I'll let you in on a little secret.....come close now.......(whisper behind a cupped hand) - "I don't take any of this too seriously", myself included.
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
You have put a lot of thought and energy and psychotropic drug abuse into this post... for some reason
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
You have put a lot of thought and energy and psychotropic drug abuse into this post... for some reason
Not really, it just rolled off the tongue whilst perusing a tender, watching the US debate and listening to trade radio. My drug of choice is a cup of coffee but if you're willing to share some of your 'stash' PM me.
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The Prestia deal looks even pootier now that we don't have a first round pick in what some experts say is a very good draft.
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The Prestia deal looks even pootier now that we don't have a first round pick in what some experts say is a very good draft.
WTF would they not insist on a higher pick in this draft. Unless they know dimwit is out the door and the new coach will be armed with 2 inside 20 next year and 4 inside when we lose dusty.
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Comparing McCrae to Ellis says leagues about your footy acumen. He or Boyd should have won the Norm Smith in the Granny.
:lol :lol if you don't think he's an improved Ellis then you've obviously got your blinkers on. Saying he deserved the Norm Smith doesn't even deserve a response :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh really?.....You came into my headspace and once again you cower and I win...I do pay the price of feeling a bit dumber having conversed with you though.....but I'll get over it.
On McCrae, his stats weren't bolstered by clearances following chip kicks to oneself after kicking out from opposition points. He also had 4 crucial clearances and almost double the contested possessions of Johannisen. He was a close 2nd to Johannisen re DT points but was much more effective when in counted . All nuanced thinking I know, but try to squeeze some energy out of your necrotized neurons pleeaasssse.
By the way you referred to me as a 'supporter' in a recent post.....I prefer the term 'reformed member'.
Sorry, what? Not sure how I came into your headspace and am now cowering but if that's how you feel, then good for you. I'm glad you feel some sort of superiority for disagreeing with someone on the internet. Wonder why that is?
Hey I didn't have Johannisen as my pick for Norm Smith but I guess simple minds just assume because I don't agree with one thing, it means I agree with the other. I would have picked a few others before him, one of them being Boyd ;), alas.
Lastly, that post had nothing to do with you except you were one of two people who mentioned 'members', assuming I'm thinking of the right one. Rather, it was a tongue in cheek comment directed towards ol' mate YBB. I know it's difficult for you to think that maybe I didn't even realise it was you who posted because I don't love you as much as you love yourself but it's true.
If only you could progress an argument as adeptly as you regress one....sigh....
I'll let you in on a little secret.....come close now.......(whisper behind a cupped hand) - "I don't take any of this too seriously", myself included.
I think you do
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essentially we got Prestia and Caddy for pick 6 and future 2nd rounder
pretty solid deal.
esp when you consider we will pick up another 1st rounder and 3rd rounder next year for Deledio
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Did we do a full due diligence (body and mind) on prestia and caddy?
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Get the rubber gloves out
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Get the rubber gloves out
:lol
(http://davenaves.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/fletch-moon-river.jpg)
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You using the whole fist doc?
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You using the whole fist doc?
Nah!
Look! No hands!
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You using the whole fist doc?
Nah!
Look! No hands!
Elimination final memories....
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haha
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The Prestia deal looks even pootier now that we don't have a first round pick in what some experts say is a very good draft.
But we have 2 first round picks in next years SUPER draft :clapping
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The Prestia deal looks even pootier now that we don't have a first round pick in what some experts say is a very good draft.
But we have 2 first round picks in next years SUPER draft :clapping
I always treat it with trepidation when one draft is called a strong draft and others a weak one. The only stand-out was the '01 draft, which didn't really prove itself until 5-6 years afterwards.
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Richmond’s star recruit Dion Prestia will be able to complete a full pre-season with the Tigers
JON RALPH
Herald Sun
5 November 2016
RICHMOND’S star signing Dion Prestia will be fit to complete a full pre-season at Punt Road as the Tigers prepare for the return of Chris Yarran.
The Tigers pre-season will start on Monday for their first-to-fourth-year players with Yarran committed to returning early after injury and mental health injuries.
Prestia, out since Round 16 following knee surgery, should quickly progress from the rehab group into full training.
He battled for most of the season with knee pain as the Gold Coast’s injury crisis worsened, but eventually succumbed to the problem.
That cartilage issue kept him out for the rest of the year, but Richmond says he is in good shape.
New football boss Neil Balme said Prestia would quickly progress once the club’s senior players returned to training.
“He will still be in the rehab group to start with, but it will only take him a little while to get out of it. It was a little cartilage issue,’’ he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmonds-star-recruit-dion-prestia-will-be-able-to-complete-a-full-preseason-with-the-tigers/news-story/d8526086fa69a69b2e8eca7e1398a798
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Prestia pumped at Punt Road
richmondfc.com.au
25 November 2016
Prestia's first week Richmond recruit, Dion Prestia speaks to Channel 7 about his first week at Punt Road.
In his first week on the training track at Richmond, talented mature-age, midfield recruit Dion Prestia spoke to Channel Seven about life as a Tiger. Here are his thoughts . . .
Great to be home and with the Tigers
“Being in Melbourne, back with the family, is probably the biggest difference I’m going to find now. I was able to go home and see them last night and over the weekend . . . That was the reason I wanted to get back home – to be closer to my family. I’ve only been here (at Richmond) a couple of weeks, but I’m really looking forward to seeing what new things I can learn and things I can bring to the table here.”
Top times ahead
“I still think their list is very exciting. I feel they had an off year . . . the previous years before that, they were going really well . . . It seems like they’re pretty self-driven. So, hopefully, we get some success.”
Finals focus
“I think every team expects to make finals, so it’ll be definitely our goal and something we’ll be striving to do.”
Aims and aspirations
“A whole pre-season at the moment is my plan . . . I’ve been working pretty closely with the rehab staff here and just getting through this period. I’ll try and get as fit as I can and then, after Christmas, it looks like I’ll be able to go full-on with the main group. I just want to keep trying to play consistent footy . . . grow my game on and off the field here, which I think I have a great opportunity to do.”
On top of his knee problems
“I feel right now it’s at the best stage it probably has been over the last two years . . . I’ve been eased into it (pre-season training). Obviously, we’ve got a pretty long pre-season ahead of us, so there’s no need to be rushing in at the moment. So, just get the body right and, hopefully, I can play a good 25 games.”
Being handed the Tigers’ No. 3
“I understand who’s worn it in the past and I know they’ve been great for the Club . . . I’m just proud to be able to wear the Richmond colors and, hopefully, I’ll do them proud.”
Working closely with Cotchin and Martin
“I know they’ve been around for a while, but they’re still got a lot of years still ahead of them. And I just hope that they can improve me and I can improve them. I think the midfield depth is really good . . . it’s going to grow my game.”
Invigorated by change
“A fresh start for me, has been really good . . . just finding out new things and new ways to improve. Obviously, I wasn’t here before, but everything seems to be going really well at the moment. I’m excited by it and I’m finding it really good.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-24/prestia-pumped-at-punt-road
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Good news
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-recovery-from-knee-injury-on-track-for-preseason-competition/news-story/5c746adbc8954244f5c924fe2b9c6418
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I heard he's feeling depressed
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JUST 20 SLEEPS TO GO...
Richmond recruit Dion Prestia is used to playing in front of home crowds of about 15,000 - but that is about to change in a big way.
The former Gold Coast Sun is counting down the days until he runs out on to the MCG to face Carlton in front of possibly 80,000 fans.
"It's pretty much all I think about at the moment," he told Fox Sports.
"I'm trying to go week by week but I'm really pumped for that Round 1 hitout against Carlton, I actually don't know what to expect.
"That's the whole reason I wanted to move down (to Richmond), it will be an awesome experience to play in front of that many (fans) and hopefully get a win."
Prestia said he didn't feel the Tigers were under any extra pressure this year and predicted a return to September action.
"Every club at the moment is thinking they're going to play finals and I definitely think Richmond are a chance to make the top eight. We might have had a poor year last year but I'm really confident in what we can do in 2017."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/51deeda7dc1ef763d55a527a0e163bcb
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Polished Prestia repays trade faith
Lauren Wood,
Herald Sun
24 March 2017
IT was footy in Melbourne all over.
Opening round, 73,000 at the MCG. Punt Rd gridlock, Swan St buzzing and scarfs out car windows. This was what getting to Melbourne was all about for Dion Prestia.
They don’t do it like this on the Gold Coast.
Prestia, 24, had only played on the MCG seven times before Thursday night, for just two wins.
Out there for number eight, this time in yellow and black, he looked right at home.
“It was a great win for the boys, and great to see the crowd out here,” he said.
“73,000 is just awesome.”
He was one of the biggest fish of the trade period and gets called “meatball”. But boy, is there substance to him — some serious flavour and flair.
He entered the game with some concerns — he’d been missing from a few training sessions this week — and he was taking the number of a much-loved former Tiger that many were sad to see shift harbourside, Brett Deledio.
Commentators have talked the talk about the top-10 pick, despite knee injuries that have curtailed his past two seasons, and he proved on Thursday night that walking the walk is no trouble.
A couple of goals, a pinch of pressure and a touch of class — and the recipe came together beautifully under heat.
He even cleans up afterwards, his work out of defence polished.
A guy named Dustin Martin stole the show, but every superstar has their sidekick.
And what a pair those two made — 51 touches between them and five goals.
Attack proved brutal for the Tigers.
“We did a lot of work over the pre-season — a lot of new players and new coaches coming in,” Prestia said on Channel 7.
“I think we’re a lot different to what (they) were last year — so we looked pretty good tonight. We need to keep backing it up.”
Soon after, Prestia and fellow former Sun and housemate Josh Caddy had their first of many drives home together from the MCG.
Reckon it was one to remember.
“We were looking for each other but I was pumped when he came down to Richmond (from Geelong),” Prestia smiled.
“It’s awesome being with him and being back — it’s a bit of a love story, which is nice.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-delivers-polished-performance-in-first-game-for-richmond/news-story/b924b8574ba5076d39c5bae25e629c68
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Gun :bow
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Has real poise. Doesn't rush his disposals. Just takes the right option and hits it.
Prestia. Martin. Cotchin. Nank. Pretty good centre square.
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Quality :clapping
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Worth pick 6 easily
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
I counted four times last night that Prestia was trapped on his non preferred foot three times he scrubbed a right foot kick and the fourth time he eventually used his left and hit a Carlton player lace out.
Gun players have a reasonable non preferred foot Prestia does not.
His game last night was very good but to call him a gun is a stretch.
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
I counted four times last night that Prestia was trapped on his non preferred foot three times he scrubbed a right foot kick and the fourth time he eventually used his left and hit a Carlton player lace out.
Gun players have a reasonable non preferred foot Prestia does not.
His game last night was very good but to call him a gun is a stretch.
I counted 28 disposals. 4 bad kicks out of 28 = 85.7% disposal efficiency (elite) :clapping
Like Chuck said, hang your heads in shame peoples :clapping
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
I counted four times last night that Prestia was trapped on his non preferred foot three times he scrubbed a right foot kick and the fourth time he eventually used his left and hit a Carlton player lace out.
Gun players have a reasonable non preferred foot Prestia does not.
His game last night was very good but to call him a gun is a stretch.
I counted 28 disposals. 4 bad kicks out of 28 = 85.7% disposal efficiency (elite) :clapping
Like Chuck said, hang your heads in shame peoples :clapping
Hang them low as well you ordinary charachters
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Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia's training load to be managed due to knee issues
Daniel Cherny
The Age
7 April 2017 1:08pm
Richmond will continue to manage Dion Prestia's training load as their star midfielder attempts to play a full season for the first time in three years. While the Tigers insist Prestia has been doing the majority of work at closed sessions, he has been on lighter duties later in match weeks as he manages the knee issue that hampered his final two seasons at Gold Coast.
Richmond are adamant that Prestia is not expected to miss any games because of his knee, although the club concedes he may need to be managed on the training for the remainder of the year,
Prestia, 24, was traded to Punt Road last October after his 2016 campaign ended prematurely due to knee surgery. He played 14 games last season at the Suns, following just eight the previous year. His output diminished too, polling just one Brownlow vote across his last two years at Gold Coast after 22 over the previous two seasons.
While Prestia began his time at Richmond in the club's rehab group, he soon began working with the bulk of the squad. The nuggety on-baller appeared in the pre-season JLT Community Series, and has played in both of the Tigers' matches this season. He was particularly impressive in the club's win over Carlton in round one, playing second fiddle to Dustin Martin with 28 disposals and a goal. Prestia's output was somewhat diminished in the second-round victory over Collingwood, although he still had 24 disposals, even if his ball use left something to be desired.
http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-midfielder-dion-prestias-training-load-to-be-managed-due-to-knee-issues-20170407-gvg2w1
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
I counted four times last night that Prestia was trapped on his non preferred foot three times he scrubbed a right foot kick and the fourth time he eventually used his left and hit a Carlton player lace out.
Gun players have a reasonable non preferred foot Prestia does not.
His game last night was very good but to call him a gun is a stretch.
I counted 28 disposals. 4 bad kicks out of 28 = 85.7% disposal efficiency (elite) :clapping
Like Chuck said, hang your heads in shame peoples :clapping
Hang you head in shame Dookie your boy is going backwards at a rate of knots.
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From Barrett's lastest 'Sliding Doors' column:
IF .... the numerous people who laughed last year when it was revealed Prestia had chosen the Tigers are to be honest with themselves ...
THEN .... they'll be admitting right now they were wrong. Already looming as crucial to this rebirth.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-14/sliding-doors-round-four
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Disagree with 'Damo' there - to an extent. He had a solid game against Carlton when we really had control of it for most of the game. He was okay against the Pies and quieter than I'd have hoped against WC. Wouldn't brand him as 'crucial' to the 'rebirth'.
Having said that, I think his set-up at stoppages may be a factor I need to acknowledge (big body, takes a good player away from Cotch/Dusty etc). Kinda like a big power forward that isn't much chop - the op still need to man them up and cover the ground.
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Bit of a turnover merchant today, needs to improve that part of his game. Expect better from him, against better teams he and his mate Houli are going to be the difference in a close game with their regular clangers.
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Bit of a turnover merchant today, needs to improve that part of his game. Expect better from him, against better teams he and his mate Houli are going to be the difference in a close game with their regular clangers.
I'm still not sold, how Miles is still sitting in the twos whilst this guy is just getting through games is beyond me.
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Thought he was much better than last week but still only serviceable. Does some good work in in tight but his foot skills are a worry.
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How was he at GC kicking skills ?.Could it be coming back from injury even so for the $$$ and pick we gave up needs to step it up.
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Was very good before his injuries....was arguably GC's second best mid after Ablett...unfortunately he's a bit of a turnover merchant at the moment.......
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His kicking does need improving but he goes in. On a night when most others were lairising and not doing the things that got them to 3 wins in the first place.
His 7 tackles and 20 pressure acts led the team where unfortunately, our leaders lowered there colours.
The team won't get away with that in the next few weeks that's for sure.
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Looks to me like he's trying too hard....
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Has to be injured to the point it's effecting his game. An idea would have been to rest him this week.
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Has to be injured to the point it's effecting his game. An idea would have been to rest him this week.
He has rested enough in the last 2 years. He needs to play and play well as we have given up a heap to get him.
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Yeah lets just burn him out and stuff his knee beyond repair in his first year because he's missed a chunk of the past 2 years and we paid a lot to get him. Brilliant stuff :clapping
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Has to be injured to the point it's effecting his game. An idea would have been to rest him this week.
He has rested enough in the last 2 years. He needs to play and play well as we have given up a heap to get him.
Looks like Prestia is a bust but just because we gave up heaps this is no reason to play him if Miles will give us a better performance.
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underwhelming
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Will get much better I reckon.
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Rest him, put Miles in, it is obviously the correct move.
While we are resting players Daniel "the man" Rioli looked a little proppy. Rest him as well.
Ellis and Morris need a permanent rest, put in Lloyd and Lennon. Bolton could be given a run and Stengel as well
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Will get much better I reckon.
Not something you say about a 700k player you have just given up pick 7 for.
Richardson has a lot to answer for.
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On current form not worth pick 6 not even a top 20 pick.Weither he is injured or not I'm not sure but has to improve dramatic to warrant $$ and pick 6.
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Heart transplants aren't covered by the club's medical insurance.
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worst game by a considerable margin - can any trackwatchers confirm whether this bloke is actually training at all? Had the distinct look of a player who has no conditioning
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Has always had questionable foot skills.
His conditioning/ explosiveness is something that should hopefully change for the better though. 2 good games out of 6 (Carlton and Brisbane) is a disappointing return at this point.
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Has always had questionable foot skills.
His conditioning/ explosiveness is something that should hopefully change for the better though. 2 good games out of 6 (Carlton and Brisbane) is a disappointing return at this point.
So we basically paid a top part first round pick for another Foley complete with injuries
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Has always had questionable foot skills.
His conditioning/ explosiveness is something that should hopefully change for the better though. 2 good games out of 6 (Carlton and Brisbane) is a disappointing return at this point.
So we basically paid a top part first round pick for another Foley complete with injuries
But without foleys pace
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NO KNEE ISSUES FOR STAR TIGER
Chris Cavanagh
Herald-Sun
2 May 2017
RICHMOND has quashed suggestions Dion Prestia is still being hampered by knee issues that have plagued him in recent years and backed the high-profile recruit to build on his start to the season.
Prestia made an impressive debut in the yellow and black in Round 1 with 28 disposals and a goal against Carlton but has been noticeably quiet in recent weeks.
The former Gold Coast midfielder averaged 106 SuperCoach points a game in 2014, 101 in 2015 and 93 last year but has averaged just 80 points in his first six games for his new club.
His kicking efficiency is a career-low 44 per cent.
While not wanting to make public comment on Prestia’s form, Richmond yesterday flatly denied its prized recruit was being troubled by his knee or playing sore and said he had been fully training on an individual program.
Prestia played just eight games in 2015 before suffering a torn lateral meniscus in his left knee and managed only 16 games last year before having further knee surgery last July.
The Tigers signed the 24-year-old on a five-year deal last October, reported to be worth more than $3.5 million, and carefully managed him over a limited pre-season as he continued his recovery from surgery.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/7ee78dbca2a5454f624bb78870834536
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If they are denying it then it is most definately true.
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He is on an individual program so he is either on catch up to fitness due to an interrupted pre-season or he is still carrying effects of the injury.
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He is on an individual program so he is either on catch up to fitness due to an interrupted pre-season or he is still carrying effects of the injury.
Yep, most likely barely training from match day to match day bc of soreness hence his conditioning is getting worse which is coinciding with his performances getting worse by the week.
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He is on an individual program so he is either on catch up to fitness due to an interrupted pre-season or he is still carrying effects of the injury.
I saw him grab at his knee in the night game against Collingwood so I reckon he's done something in that game
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He is on an individual program so he is either on catch up to fitness due to an interrupted pre-season or he is still carrying effects of the injury.
I saw him grab at his knee in the night game against Collingwood so I reckon he's done something in that game
I seen him kick an absolute shank last week so something must be wrong
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He is on an individual program so he is either on catch up to fitness due to an interrupted pre-season or he is still carrying effects of the injury.
I saw him grab at his knee in the night game against Collingwood so I reckon he's done something in that game
I seen him kick an absolute shank last week so something must be wrong
His kicking has been flakey all year.
And that is his right foot his left foot is about as good as an u/10 midget's left foot.
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#Duped #NotHard #Karma
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Another great trade by Dud Richardson. He can add this next to Yarran on his CV. Big Fish. How is this fool still at the club.
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What's the bet the club comes out in about 4 weeks and say he hurt his knee in the game just played.
Then proceed to say it's not serious and he should be back in a couple of weeks only to say about 6 weeks later that he has had a setback and is indefinite.
Then decide not to operate until midway through the next years preseason so he doesn't complete yet another preseason.
At best he will be a solid, safe player but pick 6 and $700k a year?? Not even close to be worth that.
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What's the bet the club comes out in about 4 weeks and say he hurt his knee in the game just played.
Then proceed to say it's not serious and he should be back in a couple of weeks only to say about 6 weeks later that he has had a setback and is indefinite.
Then decide not to operate until midway through the next years preseason so he doesn't complete yet another preseason.
At best he will be a solid, safe player but pick 6 and $700k a year?? Not even close to be worth that.
Can just see it panning out like so bt
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(http://68.media.tumblr.com/a48cf8839d4615145e20a32ff41c0626/tumblr_muzk0jfZGJ1slcakvo1_500.gif)
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Recruit watch: How are you new players going?
afl.com.au
3 May 2017
Dion Prestia (six games): Has looked sore at times and his performances have been up and down, averaging a five-year low of 21.3 possessions and kicking poorly in some games.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-03/recruit-watch-how-are-your-clubs-new-players-going
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There's a strong chance this fellow or his boyf might become our new whipping boy
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I am thinking Miles is better value for money, Is Miles better than Prestia??
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I am thinking Miles is better value for money, Is he miles better than Prestia??
Question EFA.
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Ive been one to have Prestia's back on this forum and in the non-internet world, but patience is wearing thin. If hes injured then dont play him. If not, what the hell is going on?
The Honeymoon is over.
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Ive been one to have Prestia's back on this forum and in the non-internet world, but patience is wearing thin. If hes injured then dont play him. If not, what the hell is going on?
The Honeymoon is over.
Exactly, is it going to be one of those famous quotes in yrs to come from the club where they say "we'd just gone out and spent 700k per season plus pick 6 on this bloke, we felt the notoriously impatient tiger fans weren't going to cop having him not play so we felt pressured to play him injured"
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Ive been one to have Prestia's back on this forum and in the non-internet world, but patience is wearing thin. If hes injured then dont play him. If not, what the hell is going on?
The Honeymoon is over.
Exactly, is it going to be one of those famous quotes in yrs to come from the club where they say "we'd just gone out and spent 700k per season plus pick 6 on this bloke, we felt the notoriously impatient tiger fans weren't going to cop having him not play so we felt pressured to play him injured"
Yep the supporters fault for demanding a big signing and the supporters fault for demanding him play even if injured.
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Some have claimed he is clean by foot :shh
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Some have claimed he is clean by foot :shh
So no tinea? :lol
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Some have claimed he is clean by foot :shh
So no tinea? :lol
Spends his fair share of time at the salon does Prestia :shh
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Can we also have confirmation whether he can kick the football please
Some have claimed he is clean by foot :shh
So no tinea? :lol
lol at laughing at your own joke
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Knee obviously bothering him despite the crap coming from the club that he's out due to a hamstring. Kneestring. Looking like a worse trade than Yarran.
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Yep. His knee is still fudged. He barely trains.
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Matty Rogers was better.
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From Sam McClure's twitter:
"Did it in the last drill of training. Richmond confident it's just a minor strain."
https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/860414513585180672
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Conca's heir ?
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someone on BF says hes out for 3 weeks
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someone on BF says hes out for 3 weeks
"Small strain" is not enough to sure but I'd suggest 3 weeks could be pretty accurate based on that
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Wont lose much , He's been proppy and butchering the ball since round 1.
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After* round 1
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Wont lose much , He's been proppy and butchering the ball since round 1.
I actually think Caddy has been better, considering the high pick.
For what we gave up I expected him to be elite, but the only thing he has elite at is getting a facial and his hair done at the local barbieri
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:lol
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Wont lose much , He's been proppy and butchering the ball since round 1.
I actually think Caddy has been better, considering the high pick.
For what we gave up I expected him to be elite, but the only thing he has elite at is getting a facial and his hair done at the local barbieri
I don't think this forum is an appropriate place to be discussing sudoku and bukkake and stuff
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Omera and Prestia, the Suns stooges both clubs
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His injuries are my main concern, not his ability.
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His injuries are my main concern, not his ability.
If you had the final say on last years trade going through or not, what would you do?
So it was pick 6 basically and about $700k
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Keep pick 6 and tell Gold Coast to stick it.
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Keep pick 6 and tell Gold Coast to stick it.
:cheers
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Keep pick 6 and tell Gold Coast to stick it.
Looking at the draft with the knowledge of who was taken prior to "our" pick 6, who would you have taken?
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Of who was still on the board....probably Scrimshaw, then Brodie then Florent....I also liked Logue but thought he was a mid-teens pick..was big on Powell-Pepper but early first round was considered a reach given the question marks over his footskills and there was even a slight chance he'd still be there at 29....so I'd be lying if I said I would have taken him or Logue at 6.....
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Jon Ralph in the Herald-Sun is calling the recruitment of Prestia as bust.
BUSTS SO FAR
Dion Prestia (Richmond): Has barely trained with a knee issue that is affecting his kicking and productivity. Going at 41 per cent by foot, and averaging only 21 touches. Now sidelined with hamstring/knee.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/we-rate-every-clubs-offseason-trade-and-free-agency-recruits-after-seven-weeks/news-story/00dd33706aff1a504f01b13957f828dd
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Hahaha. Wait till the second half of the season. I'm tipping he'll be in great form.
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The first pages of this thread show how the general public saw Prestia as a busted choice from day one.
How fdk R rfc employees....
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The first pages of this thread show how the general public saw Prestia as a busted choice from day one.
How stuffed R rfc employees....
Edited for swear filter to do its stuff
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The first pages of this thread show how the general public saw Prestia as a busted choice from day one.
How fdk R rfc employees....
As long as helps us "make" a final all is good
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Who was it singing his and the clubs praises after the first couple of rounds?
If he ever gets fully fit he will be a good solid player for us- but pick 6 and $700k is a touch overs I would say and did.
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I think you're gonna be paying overs for any good player these days. And anyway it might not be overs in a few years.. not sure how long his contract is though. A fit Prestia will make a world of difference to our team I reckon.
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Hahaha. Wait till the second half of the season. I'm tipping he'll be in great form.
Based on what Simon?
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Gut instincts mate the most important thing of all :shh
But really if he doesn't play next week he'll have a chance to have a mini pre season and gain some fitness. That along with just building fitness over the course of the season and increasing training load. He was starting to become a beast when fit at Gold Coast in recent years.
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Gut instincts mate the most important thing of all :shh
But really if he doesn't play next week he'll have a chance to have a mini pre season and gain some fitness. That along with just building fitness over the course of the season and increasing training load. He was starting to become a beast when fit at Gold Coast in recent years.
The problem is Simon that Prestia has had 9 months to recover from the operation on his knee.(presuming that the knee operation was just a minor clean up as suggested)
If he is unable to train and play to his full ability after 9 months then 11 months will make no difference.
By the way that beast hasn't been sighted since 2014 and believe to be now extinct.
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Gut instincts mate the most important thing of all :shh
But really if he doesn't play next week he'll have a chance to have a mini pre season and gain some fitness. That along with just building fitness over the course of the season and increasing training load. He was starting to become a beast when fit at Gold Coast in recent years.
The problem is Simon that Prestia has had 9 months to recover from the operation on his knee.(presuming that the knee operation was just a minor clean up as suggested)
If he is unable to train and play to his full ability after 9 months then 11 months will make no difference.
By the way that beast hasn't been sighted since 2014 and believe to be now extinct.
That is concerning if that is the case, but my understanding is, he was on the road to recovery and building nicely when he tweaked it in the collingwood game, went for scans straight after that game.
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He played some really good footy in 2015. He has the capability to be a top mid it's all just about his knee really. Which I think (hope) will come good.
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Need this guy up and firing
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You can't change soft.
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On the bright side he'll be like a new recruit in 2018
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LMFAO
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LMFAO
:lol
Did he even play?
Wait for the excuses.
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LMFAO
:lol
Did he even play?
Wait for the excuses.
but caddy is the problem aye? :lol :lol
fmd what a dud this bloke is turning out to be
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Haven't written him off yet...but geez, it's not looking very good....
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Haven't written him off yet...but geez, it's not looking very good....
Our best draft pick for some years and we give it away for this bloke. Only at Richmond.
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Haven't written him off yet...but geez, it's not looking very good....
same....same...
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What's the difference?
Betamax Jackson would've found one of his "surprise" administrator-mummy-boy picks he's got up his sleeve. Don't worry about footy smarts because they are exemplary citizens, always willing to help a little old lady cross the street. :rollin
He continues to baffle all the experts every time. Long live FJ. :clapping
BJ Hartley and his list management wizardry is so good he has everyone in the AFL spellbound. :bow
DanTheMan Richardson is so very proud of their work his head is glistening. :dancingpickle :dancing
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Massive doubts about this guy body can stand up or its cooked pick 6 not even a pick in the mid twenties :banghead.
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Like Yarran, same but differrnt
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Wonder how much diligence we have done with Prestia over his knee injury. A lot has been said about O'Meara and his loss of kicking skill after his knee surgery. Prestia can't kick. Handball is elite but by foot is well below standard.
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His kicking this season makes Luke McGuane look like Maurice Rioli, abominable, that kick from a standing start on the wing that went OOTF by about 10 metres was comical.
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His kicking this season makes Luke McGuane look like Maurice Rioli, abominable, that kick from a standing start on the wing that went OOTF by about 10 metres was comical.
Was thinking Duncan Kellaway
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Wonder how much diligence we have done with Prestia over his knee injury. A lot has been said about O'Meara and his loss of kicking skill after his knee surgery. Prestia can't kick. Handball is elite but by foot is well below standard.
Not much. They were too busy tapping each other on the back that they have finally nabbed the "big fish" where they really got the big dud
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Wonder how much diligence we have done with Prestia over his knee injury. A lot has been said about O'Meara and his loss of kicking skill after his knee surgery. Prestia can't kick. Handball is elite but by foot is well below standard.
Not much. They were too busy tapping each other on the back that they have finally nabbed the "big fish" where they really got the big dud
Fairs fair, he is not a dud.
But pick 6 and a second rounder is "diabolical"
On a side note, Tom Mitchell racked up 50 last night and cost them way less.
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We gave away too much. This is obvious. And we'll do the same for schache also.
Prestia was worth a second rounder only due to injury history
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BT so far imo he is a dud.
Compare his stats to bellis. You will find they are very similar and some will say bellis has performed better.
How the stuff can u kick it out on the full with no pressure at all.
Bloody thief that kid is stealing 750k from a club and then having the nerve to produce that skata
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BT so far imo he is a dud.
Compare his stats to bellis. You will find they are very similar and some will say bellis has performed better.
How the stuff can u kick it out on the full with no pressure at all.
Bloody thief that kid is stealing 750k from a club and then having the nerve to produce that skata
Far from a dud but as I said before we drafted him he was never worth our pick 6.
Its the club's fault we gave away pick 6 and pay him $750k, not his.
He will get better imo and will help us improve but clearly we got duded in the deal.
It is what it is now but I hope we don't do the same this post season.
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Pick 6 is for a elite player he is not even half of that our club never have the balls to walk away during trade period.
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Pick 6 is for a elite player he is not even half of that our club never have the balls to walk away during trade period.
Yep unfortunately a lot of supporters were putting the pressure on for a big fish and to their limited thinking it was the panacea for everything
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We paid too much for him. (Pick 6)
We are paying him too much. (contract)
So Conca, B.Ellis and trading Pick 6 for Prestia are a bust, and potentially C.Ellis.
Great ...
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What. U mean, he's not a dud ?
I don't think I seen a bigger chicken in the yellow and black.
Would rather handball to a team mate under the pump than have to take a knock.
Worse than Ellis, Conca and Houli.
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We paid too much for him. (Pick 6)
We are paying him too much. (contract)
So Conca, B.Ellis and trading Pick 6 for Prestia are a bust, and potentially C.Ellis.
Great ...
You forgot Lennon.
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So did the coach....
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What. U mean, he's not a dud ?
I don't think I seen a bigger chicken in the yellow and black.
Would rather handball to a team mate under the pump than have to take a knock.
Worse than Ellis, Conca and Houli.
Nah Houli is a bigger squib. Hates the contest
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Prestia is a dud. Pick stuffen 6. U bloody believeable
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What. U mean, he's not a dud ?
I don't think I seen a bigger chicken in the yellow and black.
Would rather handball to a team mate under the pump than have to take a knock.
Worse than Ellis, Conca and Houli.
Nah Houli is a bigger squib. Hates the contest
Prestia is Worse
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Reckon he's taking jabs for his knee and is kicking like his leg is numb and asleep.
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How's Pretrevski-Seton going?
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He went one pick before what would've been ours....Gold Coast then took Scirmshaw with the pick we gave them, with Logue, Brodie, Bowes (GC academy) & Florent the picks immediately after that....on a side note, Jy Simpkin who would've been classified as a Richmond academy player had he been in this year's draft went at 12 and Harry Perryman, the GWS first gamer who touched Bolton's kick went at 14....
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He went one pick before what would've been ours....Gold Coast then took Scirmshaw with the pick we gave them, with Logue, Brodie, Bowes (GC academy) & Florent the picks immediately after that....on a side note, Jy Simpkin who would've been classified as a Richmond academy player had he been in this year's draft went at 12 and Harry Perryman, the GWS first gamer who touched Bolton's kick went at 14....
Brodie and scrimshaw are having good yrs in the neafl bowes ainsworth and scheer have been are playing seniors or were until injury.
Reckon all will play plenty in the back half of the season Brodie bowes and Scheer will fix their inside game for yrs to come and scrimshaw though tall a rebounding defender should play midfield in time as well as the classy sml fwd in ainsworth.
The one i liked was Parfit who went to geelong with a pick in the 20's
As i argued at the time keep 6 do whatever it takes to trade into the top 10 and utilise the picks we had there was a chance to have at least two second round picks and with some imagination even 3.
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5. Former Sun shines
Richmond recruit Dion Prestia has been slow to find his feet at his new club but the former Gold Coast midfielder produced perhaps his best performance in the yellow and black, gathering a season-high 35 possessions. In a sign that he's building towards his best form, the man they call 'Meatball' was a solid in-and-under ball-winner and linkman. If the 24-year-old can continue his form, he will add another dimension to the Tigers' running brigade because it enables Martin to spend more time forward.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-03/five-talking-points-north-melbourne-v-richmond
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Gee wiz his kicking though. Heart in mouth type stuff
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Ball wasting, one way runner who never lays a decent tackle or shepherd.
Is often running free because his direct opponent is.
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Terrific game last night.
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hate people that cant let go of the past.....especially debt collectors :snidegrin
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Started to see glimpes of why he was generally regarded as the best Gold Coast player behind Ablett a few years ago...:shh
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Might be a very important player for us in the run home.... :shh
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I've noticed he does a lot of work at 'set up' situations. Ensuring Cotch and Dusty get a clear crack at it.
I think its no coincidence that Cotch is finding brownlow form this year with Prestia in the side.
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Needs a stint in the VFL....works hard and clears space for teammates but his disposal, ball-handling & decision making are just too much of a liability atm....
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Hoping a full pre-season will mean a different player. Don't have high expectations for the rest of this season based of what he's produced.
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Needs a stint in the VFL....works hard and clears space for teammates but his disposal, ball-handling & decision making are just too much of a liability atm....
Wow :gobdrop
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his finger looked like the mark of zorro when he dislocated, hope that pulls up alright next week, think his piano days are over
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If this bloke isn't dropped it'll say to me that appearances are more important than performances and that there's truly is no even application of standards...was at least trying before but last night wasn't even doing that....has become a liability....
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Still unfit/injured whatever. Didn't complete the last training before the game ? Why not just rest him for a few weeks over a steady load of fitness work
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Still unfit/injured whatever. Didn't complete the last training before the game ? Why not just rest him for a few weeks over a steady load of fitness work
Why continue to make excuses for him?
If you are not fit at this stage of the season a couple of weeks of steady fitness load will make very little difference.
Prestia was not fatigued in the first 1/4 when he botched those two regulation handballs.
We just have to admit it we have purchased a sports BMW only to find the drivetrain is stuffed and the parts are no longer available for that model.
So as good as the motor is the only performance we can get out of it is equal to a Toyota Corolla.
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Whatsse?
They chose him or he plays for us?
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Still unfit/injured whatever. Didn't complete the last training before the game ? Why not just rest him for a few weeks over a steady load of fitness work
Why continue to make excuses for him?
If you are not fit at this stage of the season a couple of weeks of steady fitness load will make very little difference.
Prestia was not fatigued in the first 1/4 when he botched those two regulation handballs.
We just have to admit it we have purchased a sports BMW only to find the drivetrain is stuffed and the parts are no longer available for that model.
So as good as the motor is the only performance we can get out of it is equal to a Toyota Corolla.
I'm just stating the fact that he did not complete training.. suggests something is wrong doesnt it ?
I'll give him a full pre season before making my final judgement on the trade, but this year certainly hasnt been great.
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As long as his body holds up there will be some posters that should hang there head in shame for their comments
Exactly.
These 2 went the early crow. Looking extremely foolish now.
Pick 6... classic :lol
Let's hear the excuses??
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*hear*
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*hear*
:lol
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Gives us something Chunky!
Even one of your dad joke would suffice.
We need a laugh after last night.
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Yep fair enough. Needs a rest. Id bring in Batchelor personally.
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He was pathetic last night and needs to be dropped or rested. I believe he is a good player and happy to have him but his form thus far is way off.
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Justin Blumfield mk 2
FHO
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Gives us something Chunky!
Even one of your dad joke would suffice.
We need a laugh after last night.
I've got nothing
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Perhaps we could discuss his walk in starts instead?
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Gives us something Chunky!
Even one of your dad joke would suffice.
We need a laugh after last night.
I've got nothing
:thumbsup
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Ive been sticking up for prestia since we got him. Last nights efforts were unacceptable. He needs to be dropped to show that this club has standards that need to be met to play in the side.
We are our own worst enemy allowing certain players more leeway to find form than others.
I mean stating that hunt deserves to be in bc we like to reward form is a slap in the face to Miles who is averaging about 35 possessions a game at vfl and cant get a look in
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There is something not right about The Penguin
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Robbo's view:
Dislike No.2: DION PRESTIA
Poor night from the prized recruit and a poor season from the prized recruit on major dollars at Punt Road. Yes, there’s acclimatisation for any player at a new club, but let’s dispense with the excuses. No such problem for Tom Mitchell at Hawthorn. Or a host of first-year players such as Sam Powell-Pepper. Or Michael Hibberd after 12 months suspended. Winning games covers cracks and Prestia has been a crack this season. The upside is if he can find consistency and urgency, the Tigers will only get better.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-reveals-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-a-huge-round-16/news-story/625faae229283ef5ec3695ce212b49ef
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From AFL Game Day@ 7aflgameday twitter:
Dion Prestia says his knee is as good as it's been since he moved to @Richmond_FC in the off-season.
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/7aflgameday/status/883959038567890944
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From AFL Game Day@ 7aflgameday twitter:
Dion Prestia says his knee is as good as it's been since he moved to @Richmond_FC in the off-season.
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/7aflgameday/status/883959038567890944
Wonder why he didn't complete training then
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Similar to Oxy's call on vickery, whats the bet he will develop depression?
Bookmark it.
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Similar to Oxy's call on vickery, whats the bet he will develop depression?
Bookmark it.
With the meltdown threads and posts on here over the last two days I think a few posters have 'developed' depression also.
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Similar to Oxy's call on vickery, whats the bet he will develop depression?
Bookmark it.
We should encourage him to come out of the closet and Peggy & Benny can milk the diversity cow for all it's worth. Our club once again the forefront of everything that's non footy related. :clapping
He and Caddy could have a marriage ceremony before the game and could come on the field on horseback. The drummers could beat the drums really loud and we could have transgender Tigerettes dancing around the altar as nonbinary non gender specifics hold hands and sing. :rollin
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Has there ever been an instance where a player who was not fit to play did the team thing and said they weren't feeling game ready and allowed for someone else to fill in for them?
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Similar to Oxy's call on vickery, whats the bet he will develop depression?
Bookmark it.
We should encourage him to come out of the closet and Peggy & Benny can milk the diversity cow for all it's worth. Our club once again the forefront of everything that's non footy related. :clapping
He and Caddy could have a marriage ceremony before the game and could come on the field on horseback. The drummers could beat the drums really loud and we could have transgender Tigerettes dancing around the altar as nonbinary non gender specifics hold hands and sing. :rollin
😂😂
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Similar to Oxy's call on vickery, whats the bet he will develop depression?
Bookmark it.
It's made me a fraction depressed :-X
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Spolit little Malaka.
FHO
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Prestia should be ok though - he and his captain have an #insaneconnection
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Prestiageehesunco
Prestiaplaysinslomo
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Prestia will only get better: Hardwick
afl.com.au
14 July 2017
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick expects Dion Prestia to hit top gear towards the end of the season
AFTER being hampered by a limited pre-season, boom recruit Dion Prestia will only get better as the season rolls on, according to Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
The 24-year-old only began training twice a week in the last month, after arriving from the Gold Coast Suns with knee problems.
However, as Richmond head towards a likely finals berth, Hardwick is confident the midfielder will continue to improve.
Prestia is averaging 22 disposals and three tackles a game since his move to Punt Road on a five-year deal.
"He's getting better," Hardwick said on Friday morning.
"He's probably only started training twice a week for the last 3-4 weeks. He certainly can play better, we know that.
"The stats generally show if you have a full pre-season your season is generally consistent, and Dion didn't have that, so he's been trying to catch up and you're probably never going to do that throughout the course of an AFL season.
"We know his best is going to be at the back-end of the season, (and) we're really excited with what he's going to bring."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-14/prestia-will-only-get-better-hardwick
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Well he couldn't get much worse
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"We know his best is going to be at the back-end of the season, (and) we're really excited with what he's going to bring."
Yeah...his mamma's lasagne and a case of Lambrusco to Mad Monday....
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And of those 22 disposals he gives 5 back to the opposition.
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#polpettaumana
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"Yeah look he's not gonna kick 10 goals but he's not gonna give 10 away either"
💩man
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Backing him in, reckon he's going to put in a big one this week :shh
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By his standards?
That means hitting a target once.
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Ainsworth looking good..... :shh
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By his standards?
That means hitting a target once.
Nope, by anyones standards. :shh
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#polpettaumana
#blueoysterbar
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Proud Prestia hits back
The big-name recruit came to the club from Gold Coast with plenty of fanfare after the Tigers nabbed him in a trade at the end of last year. His training load has had to be managed after a limited pre-season, his 2016 campaign having been ended early with knee surgery. After some scrutiny during the week, Prestia looked as if he was assigned to some of the star Lions – Zorko and Dayne Beams in particular. That pair had quiet days while Prestia picked up 19 disposals and a goal in a display that might not have been the reason Richmond traded for him, but was nevertheless encouraging.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-16/five-talking-points-richmond-v-brisbane-lions
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Ainsworth looking good..... :shh
Good on him...not a given we would have selected him anyway. Still take Prestia :thumbsup
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Much better today
Played the role given very well
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Yep. Was good today.
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So his two passable games have been against the Blues and the Lions
Impressive
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Backing him in, reckon he's going to put in a big one this week :shh
I'm not one to say I told ya so but does anyone know how to change my username to "Alwaysright"? :shh
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he was good today the meataball.
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So his two passable games have been against the Blues and the Lions
Impressive
Has finaly arrived..... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
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700K for a tagger :gotigers
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Can build from this. Tipping these last games of the season will be his best
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Can build from this. Tipping these last games of the season will be his best
How so as last week was arguably his worst.
His two best performances have been against bottom sides.
I would like to believe that Prestia will build from here so let's see how he goes against GWS
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I can't see how he couldn't but build from this year so far.
Surely he couldn't get any worse.
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lets see how he goes V GWS
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Will tag Kelly out of the game..... :clapping
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Will tag Kelly out of the game..... :clapping
If he can do what he did last week...well i am happy with that :clapping
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Can build from this. Tipping these last games of the season will be his best
:lol
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Can build from this. Tipping these last games of the season will be his best
:lol
I honestly don't see why you bother writing such comments to go along with all your other dribble ?
Boredom?
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Yours was a comment.
Mine, an emoji
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Little baby.
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He seemed to love to tag comes very natural to him. I think this game was a real "coming out" game for him. :clapping
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Looks like Prestia is our Scully and to only way to recoup part of the money we are paying him is to use him as a tagger.
The difference is Scully can hit targets by foot regularly.
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I don't blame him For the club being stupid enough to pay that much.
I blame him for being poo and getting gifted games because of his financial price tag
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Can build from this. Tipping these last games of the season will be his best
:lol
I honestly don't see why you bother writing such comments to go along with all your other dribble ?
Boredom?
Hes entitled to his opinion and hes free to disagree with you.
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Looks like Prestia is our Scully and to only way to recoup part of the money we are paying him is to use him as a tagger.
The difference is Scully can hit targets by foot regularly.
Huh?
Scully is a freak
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Looks like Prestia is our Scully and to only way to recoup part of the money we are paying him is to use him as a tagger.
The difference is Scully can hit targets by foot regularly.
Huh?
Scully is a freak
Maybe in the early years at GWS he was but in the last couple of years he has earnt his money
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I'm saying Scully is a steal, he's an absolute freak of which hitting targets is one of several strings..
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I'm saying Scully is a steal, he's an absolute freak of which hitting targets is one of several strings..
My bad on the quoting I was really replying to YandB
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In his first three seasons at GWS Scully struggled big time so they gave him the tagging role.
$1000k per season for a tagger????????????
In the last two seasons he has been delivering very consistent performances.(still not worth 1000k per season)
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In his first three seasons at GWS Scully struggled big time so they gave him the tagging role.
$1000k per season for a tagger????????????
In the last two seasons he has been delivering very consistent performances.(still not worth 1000k per season)
Actually saves them a rotation as he spends something like 97% of time on ground. Hardly stagger, best 2 way runner in the comp
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God he's horrible
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Don't normally jump into defend blokes but he's coming off a long layoff.
I noticed today his kicking lacks pentration. Thick he will get that back in time.
If he stays fot and gets a good pre deason under his belt will be much better for it next season
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He'll be like a new recruit! :shh
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He was good again today.
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Wasn't the worst senior player out there today. >:(
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He was good again today.
I usually like your positive attitude but gee wiz man he was average at best. He couldn't even tag effectively this week
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His first quarter was abysmal....haven't heard a Richmond crowd turn on one of our own with such fury since the glory days of Bling.... ......to his credit he did ok after that - crappy conditions suited him.....his pre-season though should be nothing but skill drills....
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I think he's tracking at about $5000 for every effective disposal he manages :rollin
This guy is laughing all the way to the bank. :rollin
And what did we give up for him? Worth every cent?
Why do we put up with this crap?
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We do not have a choice......
We are Opus Dei type supporters.... :rollin
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I thought he was good yesterday, won a lot of 50/50 contests.
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He's stuffn poohouse and doesn't give a poo.
I can't stand the bastard
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Bunch of Debbie Downers. :lol
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Bunch of Debbie Downers. :lol
Careful......lets not revert to that past chapter
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Watching the replay he wasn't that bad actually, just some of his turnovers were atrocious.
He didn't have a preseason, I'll cut him a bit of slack based on that.
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Watching the replay he wasn't that bad actually, just some of his turnovers were atrocious.
He didn't have a preseason, I'll cut him a bit of slack based on that.
He is running 15 km a match so I don't think his fitness has anything to do with his poor disposal skills.
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Watching the replay he wasn't that bad actually, just some of his turnovers were atrocious.
He didn't have a preseason, I'll cut him a bit of slack based on that.
He is running 15 km a match so I don't think his fitness has anything to do with his poor disposal skills.
He maybe pushing himself to run 15km.....
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I thought he was ok but below what youd want for his price obviously
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I thought he was good yesterday, won a lot of 50/50 contests.
Yes I must admit I thought he was ok yesterday.
I think it's pretty clear, and in saying that I thought it was pretty clear even before we traded for him, that he is solid at best.
He is never going to live up to the pick 6 we gave up for him or the money we are paying him but he is in our best 22 imo.
I would happily take him over BEllis, Grigg and Houli any day of the week.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
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I thought he was good yesterday, won a lot of 50/50 contests.
I thought his name was Dion Hysteria given the unnecessary feedback on his season. Kept Sheil quite after he started his game like a shot out of a cannon
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Except for the fact he was moved off Shiel after about 20 minutes because it wasn't working and they were outnumbering us at the contest and then Shiel got injured... :shh
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Except for the fact he was moved off Shiel after about 20 minutes because it wasn't working and they were outnumbering us at the contest and then Shiel got injured... :shh
But we can't let facts get in the way of a good story :lol
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Conca Mk II
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Conca Mk II
Except the fact that Conca could hit a target on his left foot and has a good left hand handball.
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Conca Mk II
Pronca.
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Conca Mk II
Except the fact that Conca could hit a target on his left foot and has a good left hand handball.
Too bad he regularly missed targets with his right foot.... :whistle
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Conca Mk II
Pronca.
:lol
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Conca Mk II
Pronca.
😂😂
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lol do they have cream for that?
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Conca Mk II
Except the fact that Conca could hit a target on his left foot and has a good left hand handball.
Too bad he regularly missed targets with his right foot.... :whistle
And yet he is Cotchin like with is right compared to Prestia
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How do people think Pronca :lol will go against his old side?
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How do people think Pronca :lol will go against his old side?
At least he should try hard
Disposal will probably still be crap though
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It will be the best game he's ever played for them.
I hope they smash him
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It will be the best game he's ever played for them.
I hope they smash him
In b4 retaliatory meltdown
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It's just not worth any retaliation......
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
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What about recent Hawks recruit Tyrone "the Bone Collector" Vickery?
Or Swans premiership player Lewis "out of my way" Jetta!
Hard as nails those blokes.
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How about Guthrie from Geelong? Makes Bellis look like a superstar
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It's just not worth any retaliation......
That's what Pronca says
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Hard bastards like David McKay from the Crows would simply refuse to line up alongside Brandy.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
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How about Guthrie from Geelong? Makes Bellis look like a superstar
Not even sure why I'm replying to such a stupid comment but surely you don't think Guthrie is soft?
Looking forward to your answer
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What about recent Hawks recruit Tyrone "the Bone Collector" Vickery?
Or Swans premiership player Lewis "out of my way" Jetta!
Hard as nails those blokes.
Tyrone is many things but soft isn't one.
And Lewis Jetta plays very much outside but I wouldn't call him soft, and at least he has the balls to take the game on. BEllis kicks it sideways because he is scared of making a mistake. The worst kind of soft imo.
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Hard bastards like David McKay from the Crows would simply refuse to line up alongside Brandy.
There is a massive difference between being soft and scared (BEllis) and not being a inside mid.
McKay isn't one of my favourite players and like Jetta, has the balls to take the game on.
Massive difference as I said.
BEllis will try to avoid body contact 99% of the time.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
Not my opinion but that of every hawk supporter I know. They say he is fast and can run but is afraid of body contact and since they watch him all the time, I'll take their word over yours for it. Sorry.
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How about Guthrie from Geelong? Makes Bellis look like a superstar
Not even sure why I'm replying to such a stupid comment but surely you don't think Guthrie is soft?
Looking forward to your answer
Guthrie is the softest, most useless footballer to pull on a pair of boots. He can run a little but that's it. Geelong are the most top heavy team in talent in the AFL, surely you see that?
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Also kicking sideways isn't soft, it's timid. Not putting your body on the line when you need to is soft.
It is much easier to teach/instruct someone to be bold and kick long and direct than to give them bravery when it comes to self preservation.
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It's just not worth any retaliation......
That's what Pronca says
Brion Pronca
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BT, I think your blind disdain for Bellis is causing you to overstate his softness and understate the softness of opposition players.
Literally all clubs carry soft players if their other attributes offset their soft tendencies. I think this is the case with Bellis on this year's form (on last year's form I would have dropped him).
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He will kill us
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How to kill debate on Prestia.
Hijack the thread and talk about another player.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
Not my opinion but that of every hawk supporter I know. They say he is fast and can run but is afraid of body contact and since they watch him all the time, I'll take their word over yours for it. Sorry.
Good for you.
Maybe watch a game yourself and make up your own mind. Now there's a thought.
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
Not my opinion but that of every hawk supporter I know. They say he is fast and can run but is afraid of body contact and since they watch him all the time, I'll take their word over yours for it. Sorry.
Good for you.
Maybe watch a game yourself and make up your own mind. Now there's a thought.
I do watch hawks games on TV and watch Hartung. They watch him live. Do you go and watch him live every week?
I doubt it.
That's why I back their view against yours. Maybe you're wrong. Can you admit that?
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Also kicking sideways isn't soft, it's timid. Not putting your body on the line when you need to is soft.
It is much easier to teach/instruct someone to be bold and kick long and direct than to give them bravery when it comes to self preservation.
The reason I don't like BEllis is because he is too scared to take the game on. Use whatever word you want.
He has done it from basically game one. He will never change.
He is also one of Dimma's favourites as we all saw last year when his form was even worse than usual.
Some people can see past the stats and see how he does more harm than good.
Even when he decides to tackle, he buries his head and goes down with the player being tackled with no care where the ball ends up. He thinks by going to ground in the tackle his job is done. The idea of a tackling is to get the ball back, not just so you can seem to have tackled.
He is a liability imo
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Its like Tony Greg vs Bill Lawry in the 90's
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Its like Tony Greg vs Bill Lawry in the 90's
Who is who? 😁
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
Not my opinion but that of every hawk supporter I know. They say he is fast and can run but is afraid of body contact and since they watch him all the time, I'll take their word over yours for it. Sorry.
Good for you.
Maybe watch a game yourself and make up your own mind. Now there's a thought.
I do watch hawks games on TV and watch Hartung. They watch him live. Do you go and watch him live every week?
I doubt it.
That's why I back their view against yours. Maybe you're wrong. Can you admit that?
My brother barracks for the Hawks and my best mate played for them so yes I have a soft spot for them, and yes I do go and watch them sometimes. In fact Ive seen all 4 of their premierships live since 2008. So if there is any team other than Richmond I would know a bit about its Hawthorn.
Its hard having a conversation with you on a player from another club when your opinion isn't even your own.
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Its like Tony Greg vs Bill Lawry in the 90's
Who is who? 😁
Who of you two has the biggest honker?
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Its like Tony Greg vs Bill Lawry in the 90's
Who is who? 😁
Who of you two has the biggest honker?
Mine is regulation size...
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Ah Dion Prestia just another softie with limited skills.It amazes me no one talks about how often he pulls up short or out all together.
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Ah Dion Prestia just another softie with limited skills.It amazes me no one talks about how often he pulls up short or out all together.
I've seen it.
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At least he is not as bad as Jaegar bomb for worst kick from GCS?
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Ah Dion Prestia just another softie with limited skills.It amazes me no one talks about how often he pulls up short or out all together.
I do
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Haven't been a fan of Pansy Prestia but thought he was really good today. If he plays normally like this i guess it wouldn't be so bad. Had a crack today I thought. :thumbsup
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I couldn't believe he slotted that Goal on the run!
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Played a very good game.
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Was bog i reckon, had more influence on the game than Mitchell, thought his first qtr was exceptional and was very good for the remainder of the game.
Prestia, Dusty, Caddy, Grimes, Astbury, Lambert our best
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Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia reflects on his first season at club and excitement of first finals campaign
Sarah Olle,
FOX SPORTS
7 August 2017
OVERLOOKING Richmond’s victorious huddle in the changerooms on Sunday evening is a photo of another successful night 19 rounds ago.
The Tigers had dismantled Carlton to the tune of 43 points in the season opener at the MCG and debutants Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy, Toby Nankervis and Dan Butler were singing the club song in all its powerade-soaked glory.
For Prestia, it’s a reminder of how far he and Richmond have come this season.
“The first game was pretty special for us. I was just happy to get a win,” Prestia says.
“The position we’re in at the moment is unbelievable. No one really thought we’d be here at this time of year. Hopefully we can keep building for finals.”
While Richmond has been reticent to use the “f” word this season, Sunday’s 29-point win over Hawthorn has all but secured the Tigers a spot in the top eight — indeed, in the top four.
After six fruitless seasons at the Gold Coast Suns, it will be Prestia’s first tilt at September action since being drafted into the AFL system at the end of 2010.
“We’ve still got a couple of games to go, but it’s looking like it will be my first finals series, which is great,” Prestia says.
“We play Geelong next week so that’s a big game to set up that top four. We keep showing up every week. We’ve done it all year except for probably two games.”
Prestia’s life has changed remarkably in 2017.
Not only has he been reunited with best mate Josh Caddy, but gone from playing in front of half-sold crowds on the Gold Coast to sold out crowds at the MCG.
There’s no anonymity being a Tiger - especially when the yellow and black are winning.
“Richmond is probably the biggest club in Melbourne so it is a different experience,” he reflects.
“It’s a different world on and off the field. Winning is different as well.
“We didn’t really have any success or finals up on the Gold Coast so this is another world for me.”
Despite this, Prestia hasn’t completely freed himself of the Suns.
Instead, he’s brought an element of his old club to his new club, creating a link between his identity at the Suns and Richmond.
And it all comes down to his “run with” roles - selfless jobs that have given Prestia a new lease on life in the backhalf of the season.
“It was just a role I did up on the Gold Coast a couple of times,” Prestia says.
“It’s when we need to negate someone rather than tag them and I was happy to do it.
“I did it against Dayne Zorko a couple of weeks ago which was good. I had Tommy Mitchell today, which was a bit harder.”
The role has brought out the best in Prestia’s footy, exploiting his elite running capacity.
While Mitchell finished Sunday’s match with 35 touches, only nine were kicks. Prestia, conversely, racked up 31 touches — 17 of which were kicks — as well as two goals.
“I like going to players and working on them defensively and be able to get forward and use my running ability,” Prestia says.
“It’s a little challenge for me and that’s why it feels like it works.”
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was full of admiration for Prestia in what was arguably his best performance to date for the club.
“Dion missed last week and comes back in this week and looks really impressive, comes in and does a really good job on Mitchell,” Hardwick said.
“Mitchell is always going to find the ball. He’s incredible at doing that. It probably limited his effectiveness a little bit and I thought Dion was pretty solid for us as well.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/the-picture-that-speaks-1000-words-how-dion-prestia-and-richmond-have-turned-fortunes-around-in-2017/news-story/427e0bc46f7a93a5a3ad919313931d7b
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His first match to even approach his best work at Gold Coast.... :shh
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His spot should have been better filled considering he's had stuff all form for twenty rounds.
It's not something that should be ignored.
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He's playing like a new recruit! :shh
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His spot should have been better filled considering he's had stuff all form for twenty rounds.
It's not something that should be ignored.
yeah but the bottom line is, even with his average form we are now sitting 3rd, isnt it better to look fwds and not back?
Im a fan of prestia but i'll be the first to say his form has been poohouse this season, however I also think we're a better side with him in it even in poo form - there is no doubt about that for mine. (Caddys in the same boat)
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We wont win it even fluke a flag with unaccountability
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His spot should have been better filled considering he's had stuff all form for twenty rounds.
It's not something that should be ignored.
yeah but the bottom line is, even with his average form we are now sitting 3rd, isnt it better to look fwds and not back?
Im a fan of prestia but i'll be the first to say his form has been poohouse this season, however I also think we're a better side with him in it even in poo form - there is no doubt about that for mine. (Caddys in the same boat)
Caddy is the effing captain of that boat. HMAS Poowaft
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Dion Prestia thriving in ‘a different world’ after joining Richmond from Gold Coast
ELIZA SEWELL,
Herald Sun
August 11, 2017 7:00pm
DION Prestia had forgotten how mad Melburnians are for footy.
Six years of relative anonymity on the Gold Coast will do that to you.
“It’s just a different world,” Prestia said this week.
The depth of feeling in the heartland hit him hard and early, after he signed for the Tigers at the end of last season.
“When you get Richmond supporters seeing you and saying thanks so much for choosing Richmond and I hope you go well, that’s the best thing,” Prestia said.
“There’s Richmond supporters everywhere, everywhere you go.
“On the Gold Coast it’s a newer club and they’re trying to build the brand, there’s obviously not as many members. It’s just so different.
“I knew when I decided to come to Richmond it was something I’d have to get used to.
“Even fans coming down to the captain’s run — we get a couple of hundred — which is crazy. People just love seeing you run around.”
Prestia was drafted to the Suns with pick No. 9 in 2010. But after six seasons, home — his family still lives in Craigieburn — was calling and Victorian clubs circled.
He chose the Tigers — Hawthorn was also interested — partly because he was keen to pair up with top-rung midfielders Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin. Things are turning out pretty well so far.
And while his family is rapt to have him back in town, his dad Osvaldo would still prefer he was wearing different colours.
“He’s Melbourne, 100 per cent,” Prestia said of his dad.
“He’ll come to the games, but he still goes for Melbourne. I’d be interested to see, if it came down to us two in the Grand Final (who he’d choose).
“When we played them and we beat them, he wasn’t very happy about that.
“Even when I’d decided I was at Richmond he was like, ‘Is Melbourne still a chance?’.”
Prestia had knee surgery midway through last year and it has been a slow burn at Punt Rd as the season has progressed, building to the sort of form that won rave reviews against the Hawks last weekend.
And there have been reasons beyond what the club may have released in weekly bulletins.
He has been carefully managed. From Rounds 1-8 he would train twice a week in standard sessions rarely — just once a month.
And even now he’s being kind to his body — he didn’t play against the Gold Coast in Round 19 as he rested an Achilles niggle.
But he insists his knee hasn't troubled him at all this season.
“I don’t do the captain’s run, the day before the game, just so I’m not doing three days in a row on my legs,” he said.
“At the start of the year I would, probably once a month, train twice a week and the other times I would be on an AlterG (anti-gravity machine) just so you run at 70 per cent of your body weight, or I’d not train, just do swimming off legs, just to manage yourself.
“I hurt my hamstring (in Round 6) and once I came back (in Round 9) we decided my knee’s got to be able to cope with training twice a week and I needed to do it for my soft tissues, my calves and my hammies, so let’s just do it.
“I’ve reacted really well to it. My knee, it’s the best it’s been since I got the initial injury and my body’s going really well.”
Prestia has gone to Lion Dayne Zorko and Hawk Tom Mitchell in recent times. He describes it not as a “full-on” tagging role, but he’s there, paying attention.
“I know I’m not going to keep them to 10 disposals or anything like that, it’s just a negating role,” he said.
“I limit their damage. Tom Mitchell, I know he might cop a bit of criticism for just getting handballs, but he gets it out to his teammates in good spots, that’s where I just tried to limit his influence.
“Zorko, he was probably a good get for me. He’s a really good player, a real burst player, so I just tried to keep him in front of me. It’s something I did on the Gold Coast in my first couple of years, just to kind of learn.
“I’d do like a Jobe Watson or Dane Swan, just to learn how they go about it, their running patterns.
“We kept doing it and I was able to find the footy as well. I enjoy the role because it gives you a bit of a challenge.
“I don’t know if I’ll go Danger, he’s probably a bit too big for me (laughing) … if I do get him it should be a good experience and a lot different challenge to what I’ve faced.”
Prestia plays at Richmond and lives in Richmond too, with teammate and good friend Josh Caddy.
The pair first played together in under-13s in a Diamond Valley representative team, started their AFL careers at the Suns together and reconnected at the Tigers this season.
In Round 5 they played their 100th games together.
“When my trade was getting done and there were all the rumours flying that I was going to Richmond he gave me a call and was like, ‘Are you going to Richmond?’,” Prestia said.
“I let him know and he was like, ‘I’m thinking of going as well’. I’m like, ‘Mate, it would be awesome if you did’.
“As soon as I heard that I was getting into the club as well.
‘We live together. We work off each other a lot. We’re pretty similar types off the field, we’re pretty cruisy.”
Prestia is now well acclimatised to his new world order. He smiles when he thinks about what might happen at Tigerland come September.
“We’ll be playing in a finals series in four weeks’ time — who would have thought (that) at the start of the year.
“It’ll be pretty crazy if we keep going, which I’m pretty confident that we will. It’ll be pretty crazy here in September.”
TIGERS SPREAD THE LOAD
GUN recruit Dion Prestia says he came to Richmond to play with superstars Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin, but all-over input is driving the Tigers.
Third-placed Richmond plays Geelong (fourth) at Simonds Stadium on Saturday, trying to break a hoodoo at the Geelong fortress that stretches across four decades.
Richmond goes in favourite and ex-Sun Prestia played his best game for the season in last week’s win over Hawthorn.
While midfield bull Martin — the raging Brownlow favourite — has been the Tigers’ shining light, Prestia said he wasn’t solely responsible for the club’s rise up the ladder.
“I feel like our forward line, we always have a couple of blokes who step up at the right time, it might not be their week one week, but they keep working hard and it works,” Prestia said.
“I find the midfield to be the same. I’ve had a couple of games where I’ve been a bit quiet and a couple of really good games, but I think it’s been the same pretty much with all of us, besides Dustin. Dustin’s probably been good every week.
“But I think that’s the strength of our football club. We don’t rely on anyone to win us games and be the one we rely on every week, we’ve always got other blokes who step up and share the load.”
Prestia, an Assumption College old boy, said he had been stunned by the mania surrounding his new club.
“I could have easily stayed up on the Gold Coast and been comfortable with how I was going but decided to make a move and play with the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin — it’s one of the reasons I wanted to come here.
“At the moment it looks like a really good move.
“I knew it was going to, not hinder my performance, I knew I still had a big role to play in the team, but I knew I had other blokes around me who are very capable of putting the team on their back and winning games for us.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-thriving-in-a-different-world-after-joining-richmond-from-gold-coast/news-story/963266ae10009a98f8a44caef25de452
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Warming up nicely :clapping
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If this bloke sticks to the current trajectory.....
We goin to Sizzler!
Foot skills on the improve. Another weeks rest.
Will be huge for us.
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Hopefully no injuries so he can get a full preseason and we get this from round 1 next year.
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Not sure how much of it was skill vs fluke but that skidder goal tight on the boundary was great
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Did we go early on this bloke?
Maybe I did not sure about the rest of you. His last 2 games have been incredible
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Really showed his value tonight.
If he can learn how to kick he could be elite.
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So happy to see him now showi why he was so highly regarded. There's still plenty of improvement left in him too. Was close to best on.
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Backed him all way the way. Knew the best was to come. Stuff me the prelim will be interesting
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Worth every $
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Not as flashy as Lids but way more effective for the team. Great trade :thumbsup
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Really showed his value tonight.
If he can learn how to kick he could be elite.
::)
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Has delivered in spades when it counted . Meatball rocks .
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He stood out for me last night.
Was in everything, even with a busted ankle. :thumbsup
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If this bloke sticks to the current trajectory.....
We goin to Sizzler!
Foot skills on the improve. Another weeks rest.
Will be huge for us.
I havent been to Sizzler in like 25 years :chuck
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I thought he said Sziller for a minute.
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Dion Prestia says Richmond has plenty of improvement, which is a scary prospect for rivals
GLENN McFARLANE,
Herald Sun
September 9, 2017
RICHMOND midfielder Dion Prestia has declared the Tigers have considerable improvement left in them ahead of Saturday week’s MCG preliminary final, saying that’s a “scary” prospect going forward.
While he is mindful the team still has a lot of work ahead of them, Prestia said the 51-point qualifying final victory over Geelong gave an indication of what they can collectively do when they play to their optimum level.
“It’s definitely not unexpected,” Prestia said of the belief and trust the players have in each other. “We know we can go to that level and playing like each week.”
“I think we are just improving every week, (and) that’s a scary thing.
“We knew we had this in us. We are over the moon with our list and with the VFL boys ... I feel like we are really on a good track and I am sure we can go to another level.”
The 24-year-old continued his outstanding form on Friday night, having 31 touches (with 18 contested), and only being marginally behind Dustin Martin in the Herald Sun’s votes. He was a wrecking ball in close and still had the presence of mind to find space when it mattered — nailing a goal at the end of the third term after edging his way forward.
He is thriving in his first year at Punt Rd, after a slower-than-expected start to the season, but his recruitment has been paying dividends for months now.
“I feel like I am coming into pretty good form at the moment,” he said. “I felt like I was still playing my role at the start of the year, and obviously some people weren’t happy about the way I was going.”
“But I was just able to get to know how we play and get to know the players better. Inside the club I was an important part of the group and it was just about getting the rewards for the hard work.”
The former Gold Coast player said it hadn’t really sunk in that he was now about to play in a preliminary final for the chance to go into what would be the club’s first premiership playoff in 35 years.
“We will take the next couple of days off and probably celebrate it, and really let it sink in,” he said. “But by the time next week comes around, it is all about going to the next stage.”
Prestia said the roar of the Tiger Army was something he had never experienced before. He said it had a significant impact on the players from the moment they ran out to take on the Cats.
“Even when we ran out before the game, it was pretty crazy,” he said with a smile. “Once the ball is bounced, it is just another game. But when we had it sealed in the last quarter, you sort of start to take it all in a bit. It was awesome.”
“We try to take every moment as it comes, and every contest as it comes. I think that is why we have able to withstand a couple of challengers. Geelong came at us pretty hard in the third quarter, and we were able to stand up to it and get the job done. The way we played was just so good.”
Prestia praised captain Trent Cotchin for his contribution to the team: “He is awesome. Whenever we need someone to stand up, he is the one. He cares about everyone as a person and as a footballer. He is an awesome captain.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-says-richmond-has-plenty-of-improvement-which-is-a-scary-prospect-for-rivals/news-story/a5aa240d6a4dfe3bbf95fb6a6040fbdf
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Heh...so that's why we got him.....
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Why Dion Prestia chose to continue his career at Richmond
SAM LANDSBERGER,
Herald Sun
September 12, 2017 8:21pm
DION Prestia chose to continue his career at Richmond because of the club’s cool leadership as a rival ticket threatened to overthrow president Peggy O’Neal’s board.
Prestia, 24, met chief executive Brendon Gale and football boss Dan Richardson last year before the contested midfielder inked a five-year contract.
Prestia’s camp also completed an independent list analysis — which countered the popular belief that Richmond’s slide down the ladder would continue.
The former Gold Coast ball winner collected 31 disposals, five clearances and six tackles as Richmond won its first final in 16 years on Friday night.
After a turbulent 2016, the Tigers also struck deals for Josh Caddy (Geelong) and Toby Nankervis (Sydney) to help catapult the club into premiership mode.
“A lot of credit needs to go to Dan Richardson,” Prestia’s manager, Marty Pask, said.
“There was a lot of talk at the time, which was probably unhelpful for Richmond, with the board challenge.
“That challenge could’ve potentially prevented that player, or any player, going to a club.
“So full credit to Dan and Brendon Gale, who worked really hard to alleviate a lot of that concern.”
Pask and Prestia wanted to know which coaches and board members were likely to be appointed.
“I can remember being told quite categorically that everyone’s fine and they’d back their people. That was good enough for us, and that’s exactly what happened.”
Pask told Suns list manager Scott Clayton at about Round 12 last year that Prestia was a chance to return to Melbourne and then indicated at about Round 18 or 19 he was likely to elect Richmond.
Prestia’s season ended with a knee injury in Round 16, allowing him to return home and plot his future.
“We felt it was appropriate to the Gold Coast Suns that they were notified what Dion’s intentions were,” Pask said.
“That’s fair to them because they need to plan appropriately, and the last thing Dion wants is to leave Gold Coast in an uncomfortable decision.”
Prestia met with four clubs but decided his talents would be best harboured at Punt Rd.
The previous year, Richmond missed out on Adam Treloar because he believed Collingwood was closer to a flag.
“Alex Rance, 27, was contracted (until 2019), Trent Cotchin, 27, was contracted (until 2019), Jack Riewoldt, 28, was contracted (until 2018) and Dustin Martin (is now contracted until (2024),” Pask said.
“If he was going to sign a long-term deal with a footy club, he was going to be signing it with a core group of players that were going to be in similar time frames.
“It’s probably a three-year window where they’re going to be playing together, and that’s 70 per cent of his time in this (five-year) contract.”
Pask details Prestia’s journey as part of The Agents documentary, which screens on Fox Footy at 9pm tonight.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/why-dion-prestia-chose-to-continue-his-career-at-richmond/news-story/27205835c7254eefd94375908d6d32f6
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Last 8 weeks been awsome.
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Nothing wrong with his game last night but I hope that becomes the standard of his average games. Contributed without being dangerous
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Dion Prestia says it took time getting used to Richmond style but now he knows his role
GLENN McFARLANE,
Herald Sun
September 27, 2017
RICHMOND midfielder Dion Prestia is prepared to sacrifice his own game to take a tagging role if required to help quell Adelaide’s damaging midfield in Saturday’s Grand Final.
Fresh from limiting Giant Josh Kelly’s impact in the second half last week, Prestia said he was ready for a similar role if coach Damien Hardwick issued him with a lockdown challenge.
“I’m happy to do what’s needed,” Prestia said. “I guess from the game against Brisbane (in Round 17) I was able to shutdown (Dayne) Zorko and I was able to start playing that role.”
Prestia has played on a number of “explosive midfielders” in the back end of the season, but in-and-under Crows Rory Sloane and Matt Crouch present different propositions for him.
“I did a little bit of it on the Gold Coast, more on explosive midfielders, like a Zorko type who can break lines, or a Kelly, who can do that, or Zach Merrett, who is a good user.
“Rory (Sloane) is hard in-and-under, and so is Matty Crouch, so I am not really sure which way we will go.”
The Tigers have only played the Crows once this year, in Round 6, when Adelaide won by 76 points. Prestia had a number of different opponents in that game, spending some time on Sloane, as well as Brad and Matt Crouch, but admits that won’t provide much insight into what will happen on Saturday.
“I could even do a similar thing to last week, seeing how the game goes, and I can go to someone if I need to,” he said. “They have got a very talented midfield and so do we.
“Round 6 is a totally different ball game. We play differently now.”
The 24-year-old can barely believe how his first year at Punt Rd has panned out, after seeking a trade from Gold Coast to be closer to his parents, and two sisters.
“I was always confident we would make the finals,” he said. “(But) to be honest, if you told me this time last year that we would be playing in a Grand Final, I probably would have laughed.”
Prestia shrugged off a slow start to the season, knee soreness and unfair external criticism to become one of the key reasons behind Richmond’s resurgence, working in tandem with Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and others in the midfield.
“I knew within myself I could play better,” he said. “I was always playing my role and still helping the team. But it was a different game plan to the one on the Gold Coast.
“It was always going to take a bit of time to learn the strengths of my teammates. The best thing I did was to get rid of all social media.”
“I saw some of the criticism, but it was all about how many possessions I was getting ... that’s not the thing that matters. If I can get 20 possessions, and we win, then I’m happy.”
Prestia said the chance to play in a Grand Final alongside Josh Caddy — whom he has known since he was 13 — was special, given their parallel football journeys.
“I was only talking to Josh about it the other day, and thinking 12 months, I was hopeful of coming to Richmond, and he wasn’t here, now we’re about to play in a Grand Final,” he said.
“It’s pretty crazy coming from (playing at the) Gold Coast to Richmond.
“It is a totally different environment when you are winning. Even when we lost those three games in a row, nothing changed, our reviews were all the same. That was our biggest learning experience. I am so pumped about the situation we are in right now.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-says-it-took-time-getting-used-to-richmond-style-but-now-he-knows-his-role/news-story/2d2fe2a371219d7d66849075f74e8e61
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I was on and then off and then back on the meatballs train.
Thought the last two weeks he has been our best at half time.
We have been blessed with two recruits of the year in Nanks and meatballs
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had a great game!
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👏👏👏
Welcome to Tiger Land!
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Outstanding four quarter game.
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Look forward to seeing him with a full preseason.
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last 8-10 weeks were great - massive in the finals
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Can't wait til we play Colonwood again and Cotch can tussle Treloars hair, Dion can thank him for nominating Colonwood so he could slot in and win a granny bhahaha
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Only genuine knock was his disposal by foot, and for anyone that's been watching he appears to have been gaining more penetration in his kicking week by week.
Think, fingers crossed if free again from injury his preseason will be huge and can step up another gear.
Wouldn't mind if he called his mate at the Gold Coast who is uncontracted soon...
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Bellis is having a good year. Pea-heart or not. He would get a game at every club in the league.
Sorry Willy I don't agree with that.
For a start, no way would he get a game for Sydney, Adelaide or Hawthorn... ever!
Those clubs have coaches that don't put up with soft, poo footballers. And regardless of how many sideways kicks he gets, that wouldn't change that.
The sooner we get a coach that doesn't put up with the Griggs, the Houlis or the Bellis', the better our club will be.
All 3 are frauds imo.
I can have any other player on our list but those 3 are the pits.
Do you think Billy Hartung is a good hard footballer? If he played for Richmond, you'd be the first to put a line through him and group him with Bellis and Houli. 100% sure of that.
What crap!
Hartung isn't the most skillful footballer but he has a crack. Do you think he is soft?
Try just giving us your opinions and I'll give mine. You telling me what I would do makes you look arrogant. (And I cleaned that up)
Not my opinion but that of every hawk supporter I know. They say he is fast and can run but is afraid of body contact and since they watch him all the time, I'll take their word over yours for it. Sorry.
Good for you.
Maybe watch a game yourself and make up your own mind. Now there's a thought.
I do watch hawks games on TV and watch Hartung. They watch him live. Do you go and watch him live every week?
I doubt it.
That's why I back their view against yours. Maybe you're wrong. Can you admit that?
My brother barracks for the Hawks and my best mate played for them so yes I have a soft spot for them, and yes I do go and watch them sometimes. In fact Ive seen all 4 of their premierships live since 2008. So if there is any team other than Richmond I would know a bit about its Hawthorn.
Its hard having a conversation with you on a player from another club when your opinion isn't even your own.
Just on Hartung, I wonder why he was let go by the hawks
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Because he’s both soft and poorly skilled.
That didn’t fit with BT’s narrative though.
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Because he’s both soft and poorly skilled.
That didn’t fit with BT’s narrative though.
Oh OK Thanks
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'I didn't cramp at all': Injury-hit Tiger pulls up OK
Sarah Black
afl.com.au
Apr 15, 2018 11:00AM
RICHMOND had the luxury of easing premiership midfielder Dion Prestia back into the senior line-up during its 93-point smashing of Brisbane on Saturday.
Prestia missed the first three games of the season with hamstring and glute injuries, but said he pulled up well from his first AFL match of the year.
"I'm feeling really good. I got managed a bit to get through the game, started the quarters on the bench and that," Prestia told AFL.com.au.
"I didn't cramp at all and thought I might, so that was really good."
Prestia played just 77 minutes of the match and finished with 23 disposals and an equal game-high seven clearances (along with Lions ruckman Stefan Martin). By comparison, fellow midfielder Shaun Grigg played 94 minutes and had 26 touches.
The 25-year-old is no stranger to sitting on the sidelines, managing 22 games across his final two seasons at Gold Coast with serious knee injuries, before crossing to Richmond at the end of 2016.
"You do get frustrated not being able to play. But looking at it in a positive way, hopefully I build my season up after missing the first three.
"I think we're in a good position at the moment, being three [wins] and one [loss]. You want to play the first couple of games but it's a long season and I've missed plenty of footy before, so as long as I'm there if we're playing on Grand Final day, that'd be good."
Brisbane didn't score a goal until the 27-minute mark of the third term and only kicked two for the match.
It was a four-quarter performance from the Tigers, who have been inconsistent at times this season.
"The way we defended and set up the ground had something to do with [Brisbane's scoring]," Prestia said.
"They didn't kick a goal in the first half which was awesome for us. We probably got back to what we were doing really well last year in our defensive pressure.
"The way we were setting up the ground was back to where we wanted it to be."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-15/i-didnt-cramp-at-all-injuryhit-tiger-prestia-pulls-up-ok
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How Dion Prestia's return changes the Tigers
Sarah Black
afl.com.au
Jun 28, 2018
RICHMOND is the reigning premier, first on the ladder with a nine per cent buffer over second place.
And with the return of Dion Prestia for Thursday night's top-of-the-table clash with Sydney, the Tigers have the potential to be even better.
TEAMS Tigers cull flag star, Swans lose goalsneak
Prestia has played only four games in 2018, but statistics show Richmond is a better side with the aggressive onballer on the field.
A hamstring injury suffered in the pre-season kept him out until round four; before his latest setback, a calf injury, saw him sidelined for seven weeks.
But when the 25-year-old played, the Tigers were much more effective around the ball, an area they have struggled with (particularly clearances, where they average only above St Kilda) this year.
It is form carried over from 2017, when Prestia had the third-highest average clearances and contested possessions for the club, behind only Brownlow medallists Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin.
Getting the hard ball
With Prestia (Rounds 4-7) Without Prestia in 2018
Clearance differential -1 -5
Contested possession differential +4 -12
Prestia's absence has seen Reece Conca and youngster Jack Graham spend much more time on the ball.
Although the pair have been solid, they often require more support from captain Cotchin and Martin than Prestia.
Impact on the stars
Richmond was desperate to lure Prestia to Punt Road, giving Gold Coast pick six in 2016 (which was then used on Jack Scrimshaw), after the Victorian had played 95 games for the Suns.
An integral cog in the midfield, Prestia's presence allows star ball-users like Cotchin and Martin to spend more time causing chaos up forward.
He also has the ability to play a run-with role if an opponent is running rampant, last year holding Brisbane gun Dayne Zorko to just 11 disposals while having 19 himself.
After Prestia's first game for the club – Richmond's first-round win against Carlton in 2017 – coach Damien Hardwick foreshadowed the importance the inside bull was going to have on the forward half as a whole.
"We probably haven't been afforded that luxury [of playing Cotchin and Martin forward], ever since the loss of (Shane) Tuck and (Daniel) Jackson (in 2013 and 2014)," Hardwick said.
"All of a sudden, you bring in those two quality players (Prestia and Josh Caddy), it allows Dusty and Trent to play a bit more time forward.
"It increases our potency and takes the reliance off Jack (Riewoldt) a little bit."
When Prestia has played this season, there's been an obvious difference in the way Richmond structures its forward line.
Percentage of time spent up forward in 2018
With Prestia (Rounds 4-7) Without Prestia
Trent Cotchin* 19.8% 11.0%
Dustin Martin 30.6% 24.2%
*Cotchin missed round 7 with a knee injury
In the period Prestia played, Martin kicked seven of his 17 goals for this season (although six came in one match against the struggling Brisbane) and Cotchin kicked one out of a season tally of three.
Average Goal Assists in 2018
With Prestia (Rounds 4-7) Without Prestia
Trent Cotchin* 1.3 0.8
Dustin Martin 1.0 1.0
*Cotchin missed round 7 with a knee injury
Although the duo's goal assist numbers don't change much whether Prestia is playing or not, when they play forward they draw high-calibre defenders away from teammates like Daniel Butler, Jason Castagna and Josh Caddy.
Others get rewards
With Prestia (Rounds 4-7) Without Prestia
Average Disposal Average Goals Average Disposal Average Goals
Jason Castagna* 14.5 2.0 9.1 1.6
Josh Caddy 19.7 2.0 17.1 2.75
Dan Butler 12.8 0.8 11.8 1.3
*Castagna missed rounds 10 and 11 with knee soreness
With Prestia and key defender David Astbury re-joining the side this week after recovering from injury, it leaves just Bachar Houli (groin), and Jacob Townsend and Kamdyn McIntosh (both dropped) out of the premiership 22.
After a seven-week absence, Hardwick said he is looking forward to seeing what damage Prestia can do.
"He's such a vital player … I can't wait to have him back."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-28/why-this-player-is-so-important-to-the-tigers
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No surprise we look a better side and played our best footy of the season with Prestia back in. Allows Cotch & Dusty (who kicking was a bit off tonight) to do their thing.
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No surprise we look a better side and played our best footy of the season with Prestia back in. Allows Cotch & Dusty (who kicking was a bit off tonight) to do their thing.
Dusty doesnt look right. I think it’s groin issues. Probably did it in the off season.
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No surprise we look a better side and played our best footy of the season with Prestia back in. Allows Cotch & Dusty (who kicking was a bit off tonight) to do their thing.
Dusty doesnt look right. I think it’s groin issues. Probably did it in the off season.
It's a weird one as Dusty has had two of the past three weeks off but he still looks to be lacking power in his kicking.
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Lambo turns into a machine when Prestia is in the side.
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Welcome back :clapping
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Lambo turns into a machine when Prestia is in the side.
I think a lotta players lika the meatball
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Was fantastic after such a long break
Stood out like a beacon, how valuable he is and how much we had missed him
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Was a little rusty, but geez we structure up sooo much better with Dion in the team.
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Was a little rusty, but geez we structure up sooo much better with Dion in the team.
I thought that too. It is like the structural improvement we get defensively when Astbury is in the side.
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I can't remember who came at him but his confidence to stand firm and break the tackle was First class
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Lambo turns into a machine when Prestia is in the side.
This.
Rusty first quarter, precision under pressure for the rest of the game.
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No coincidence that Lambo had a blinder.
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Dion Prestia, comeback from calf injury
“He’s done a great job. His preparation and attitude towards it was very good. He’s pulled up really well from that game (v Sydney last Thursday night) . . .”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-02/round-16-injury-update
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What ever he did on his rehab he should keep doing it, his kicking compared to last year is sublime.
I have been one of his harshest critics due to his poor kicking.
This year he is "a spicy meataball" to quote Jim Carey (The Mask) :lol :lol :lol
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Dion B.O.G. for mine tonight. Clean in tight all night and when we needed a spark after 3/4 time he won 3 clearances in the last for 3 goals to us. He just makes a huge difference for us when he's playing.
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-10/coaches-corner-dion-prestia
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Prestia missed a couple of months with a calf complaint, and was given a mini pre-season in preparation for his comeback.
He’s subsequently slotted seamlessly back into Richmond’s line-up over the past three matches (v Sydney, Round 15, v Adelaide, Round 16 and v GWS, Round 17).
He’s averaged 27 disposals, 10 contested possessions, 4 inside-50s, 3.6 clearances and 3.3 tackles in those three games and provided the Tigers’ midfield with a major boost.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-17/tiger-duos-ripping-return
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‘The Human Meatball’ makes mincemeat of Saints
Dion Prestia has endured some injury issues this year but the Richmond midfielder is building impressive momentum towards another premiership assault. The ex-Sun, in his second season as a Tiger, was back to his damaging best against St Kilda, gathering 26 possessions and kicking a career-high three goals. The hard-nosed runner was stiff not to have a fourth major, snapping truly in the second term only for the boundary umpire to deem that Callum Moore had handballed to Prestia while the ball was out of play. Prestia also had a hand in many other scoring thrusts and was one of the most influential players afield.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-20/five-talking-points-st-kilda-v-richmond
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BOG last night IMO.
He has been sensational since he has returned.
I like the fact he doesn’t try to do to much when he gets the footy. He does the simple things really well and is just a really hard worker.
Very much like Lambert in that way.
2 players you can rely on whomever you are playing against.
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BOG last night IMO.
He has been sensational since he has returned.
I like the fact he doesn’t try to do to much when he gets the footy. He does the simple things really well and is just a really hard worker.
Very much like Lambert in that way.
2 players you can rely on whomever you are playing against.
Agreed
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BOG last night IMO.
He has been sensational since he has returned.
I like the fact he doesn’t try to do to much when he gets the footy. He does the simple things really well and is just a really hard worker.
Very much like Lambert in that way.
2 players you can rely on whomever you are playing against.
Agreed
Grimes is also one of those players, hard as nails and just gets the job done
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Dion Prestia is primed for September
It must be nice to be the third or fourth-string midfielder in Richmond’s engine room. Prestia is one of those for the Tigers, behind key pair Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin, and on Friday night he had the biggest impact of the lot with three goals from 26 disposals. Prestia has been missing in action for much of the season with injury issues since last year’s Grand Final win. The Tigers have rolled on well without him, but since Prestia has been back he has added extra depth and talent to an already loaded midfield. He’s set to play another huge role in the finals as Richmond attempt to go back-to-back. - Callum Twomey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-22/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-18
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Tiger ready for more ups than downs this September
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Aug 28, 2018 1:27PM
DION Prestia believes his body is strong enough now to withstand the finals pressure-cooker and he's relieved to have put his injury concerns behind him at the pointy end of the season
With Richmond to begin its finals campaign next week against Hawthorn – and with Prestia admitting he'll relish the mandated pre-finals break this weekend – the 25-year-old is set for a big September after overcoming a number of complaints this season.
"In the games I've played I've come back and played my role, and I feel like I've played some pretty good footy when I have been out there," Prestia told AFL.com.au.
"I've kind of felt like I've come back and been able to play my role pretty well.
"It's just the consistency of getting my body right and getting that continuity.
"I'll enjoy the week off and then roll into the first final."
Minor ankle surgery after the Grand Final last year on an injury he'd carried for much of the season should have had him back on the track for the majority of summer training.
The operation itself wasn't an issue. He had the injury repaired and was back running when the senior players returned to the club at the start of December.
Prestia was eased back into the main group after the festive break and had his sights set on the season opener against Carlton on March 22, but he pinged a hamstring at the end of February and subsequently didn't take part in any of the Tigers' pre-season matches.
Then the injury lingered into the season proper and robbed him of the first three games.
"You're here to play footy, so it has been frustrating," he said.
"I then had ankle surgery, so that set me back a bit, but then I got a few niggles here and there in the pre-season.
"Hopefully I'll be surgery-free at the end of this season and I can just roll straight into a normal program."
Prestia's return to the senior side was short-lived. In round seven against Fremantle, he hurt his calf, and while the Tigers were initially hoping it wouldn't be a lengthy lay-off, it ended up costing him a large chunk of football.
Given it was his second soft tissue injury of the year, and taking into consideration the weeks of summer training lost to the hamstring, he was directed to focus on a strict training block rather than getting back onto the field.
"Having to do a mini pre-season was challenging halfway through the year," he said.
"I guess that's another challenge I've had to face, and it has been frustrating, but hopefully I've come good now."
Prestia came back in round 15 against Sydney and stayed fit until a brutal collision with Collingwood's Travis Varcoe four weeks later broke a couple of ribs and cost him the round 20 clash with Geelong.
He came back for their round 21 trip to Queensland to face Gold Coast but missed the following week with hamstring soreness in a conservative pre-finals move.
Then, in what he hopes is the final peak-and-trough of a rollercoaster season, Prestia played in the season-closer against the Western Bulldogs on Saturday.
"I was pretty desperate to play last week but they wouldn't let me," he said of the round 22 clash with Essendon.
"It's been a bit interrupted, but I've pulled up fine, and the week off is actually going to suit me.
"Not many like having the week off leading into finals, but hopefully I'll get a good run in the next couple of games."
Prestia is also hoping to escape the operating theatre when the season ends for the Tigers, so he can avoid the kind of year he's endured in 2018.
"I've had off-season surgery for the last four years so it's something I want to get right, and will do everything I can for the next couple of weeks and leading into next year, go surgery-free and get a decent pre-season in."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-28/tiger-ready-for-more-ups-than-downs-this-september
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626 metres gained by Richmond's Dion Prestia is comfortably the most of any player on the ground.
26 disposals, 5 clearances, 7 inside 50s and a goal too.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/rich-v-haw
:clapping
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So damn good, imagine if he could get his body right.
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So damn good, imagine if he could get his body right.
Maybe having half the season off gets him cherry ripe for the finals
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So damn good, imagine if he could get his body right.
Maybe having half the season off gets him cherry ripe for the finals
I’ll take it!
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I think he played an awesome game. He is really just is so cool under pressure and loves getting the ball inside 50.
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Makes us better....disposal always seems to improve as the match wears on ... :shh
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Think we all now understand why we got him
He's now played 4 finals and been in our best 4 in all of them :clapping
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Mr September.
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Didn’t think he could kick it outside 50
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"I thought (Prestia's) game tonight was outstanding and he had a lot of clearance and contested ball numbers – those things were very high," Hardwick said.
"He's just growing in stature, I think, as our season progresses."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-20/incredible-martin-young-guns-put-smile-on-dimmas-face)
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Terry Wallace on SEN gave him best last night.
I thought he was good but I had about 5 players in front of him for BOG.
Not that it’s matters...
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Not sure why but has some horrible shank kicks at times, if he can address his disposal issues he could be even more damaging.
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Was huge in the centre....now if he could just start actually hitting his teammates with more than one out of every half dozen kicks..... :shh
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He’s a beast in the centre, I’m hoping his kicking improves as the season progresses like it did in 2017
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Prestia had 10 clearances and 9 first possessions last night in his 30 possies (18 contested) :o.
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Was huge in the centre....now if he could just start actually hitting his teammates with more than one out of every half dozen kicks..... :shh
That one in the third last night to Neale-Bullen was an absolute coach killer.
He's playing well but has to be better than that.
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I think the coaches need to address his constant kicking clangers, seems to me that he leans back on occasions so is not properly balanced. If he can sort that part of his game he could be so damaging.
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“Having Trent out of the team for the last couple of weeks, I just thought it was a good time to stand up,” Prestia told 3AW.
“Getting more time (in the midfield), and helping out blokes like Jack Ross and Jack Higgins, who’s been spending more time in the midfield, it’s probably been why I’ve been playing better.
“I’ve just been focusing on how they’re going and helping them as much as possible.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/prestia-prospers
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Prestia on MMM now said this year was the first time he could do at least 80% of the preseason and he has only missed one session due to soreness.
He's averaging 25 disposals per game this year and racked up another 25 possies last night.
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His goal last night was simply amazing. A rare highlight in a scrappy affair
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Dion apparently had 10 score involvement today on top of his 29 disposals and 11 contested.
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Would be leading our B&F at the moment...
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Would be leading our B&F at the moment...
Hmmmm top 3 yes, leading doubt it
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Leading from Grimes, Stack & Mack...:shh
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Assistant coach Adam Kingsley's insight into Prestia's 2019.
No. 1 ranking at Richmond for disposals and clearances this year
"They're great (numbers), and that’s probably not the strength of his game. He’s a fantastic transition player, his ability to get back and support his defence and get forward and hit the scoreboard has been really important for us."
His two-way running ability
"I think it’s one of the best in the AFL. As I said, his ability to get back and support his defence, and he goes with speed, which is really important. It not only helps us defend but then gets our ball use up and going. And his ability to get forward, he’s just a fantastic runner. There’s not too many midfielders in the competition who can run both ways with him."
Leadership qualities
"He’s really taking control of the midfield (in Cotchin's absence), certainly around stoppage and the structural part of the game, his ability to communicate, and get organised and get his teammates organised is really important for us, he’s done a great job."
His balance
"I think that's why they call him the little meatball... he’s short, stout and very hard to tackle, and really well balanced."
Goal kicking
"He gets forward at the right time, it’s just a matter of when to go and when to stay. He's got a pretty good balance of both. But certainly, if we can tidy up our ball use and help transition it a little better, he’ll get involved (in scoring goals)."
Read more: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-07-02/coaches-corner-dion-prestia
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Kane Cornes Cooked It
Richmond/Prestia
Going back a while, but Cornes did say at the end of 2016 in the trade period that: "Richmond aren’t in the premiership window and therefore wouldn’t trade for Gold Coast's Dion Prestia."
Whoops.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/07/19/kane-called-it-kane-cooked-it/
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The riser
Dion Prestia
Pre-season ranking: 102
Current ranking: 40
No one in the competition has more loose-ball gets than the former Sun, while he is No.9 in the AFL for pressure acts. He's been integral to keeping the Tigers afloat while injuries have plagued them.
The standout performance
A Tiger in a rich vein of form features here. Dion Prestia (29.8 Player Ratings points) filled the stats sheet with 32 disposals, 14 contested possessions, 10 inside 50s, eight clearances and 561m gained when Richmond defeated Sydney in round five.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-24/player-ratings-who-are-your-clubs-risers-and-sliders
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Another 30+ possessions.
Neck and neck between him and grimes for the b&f.
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500/1 for the brownlow on sportsbet :shh
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Prestia's 150th on Sunday :clapping.
Gold Coast 95 games (2011-16)
Richmond 55* games (2017- )
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Total 150* games
Prestia is averaging 27 disposals per game this year.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/D/Dion_Prestia.html
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Is Dion Prestia Richmond's most underrated player?
In game 150, the midfielder affectionately known as "the human meatball" by his teammates was first class. In an onball brigade missing leaders Trent Cotchin (hamstring) and Dustin Martin (soreness), Prestia relished the wet conditions against Carlton on Sunday. With 17 disposals to half-time, Prestia didn't slow up, finishing with 35, a whopping 11 clearances and nine inside 50s. Previously plagued with soft-tissue injuries, an uninterrupted pre-season has done wonders for the 26-year-old, averaging 27 touches this year. Shane Edwards is often mentioned as an underrated player, but Prestia may just have slipped under the radar. - Sarah Black
Dion Prestia*
Kicks 14.8 Above Avg
Handballs 12.0 Above Avg
Contested Possessions 11.3 Above Avg
Tackles 4.8 Above Avg
Clearances 5.7 Above Avg
Inside 50s 4.8 Above Avg
*AFL Premiership 2019 statistics as at Round 21
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-11/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-21
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His agility and lateral movement this year has been a real improvement and feature
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Absolutely beasting it this season
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On B&F pace right now, one of the best players in the comp over the last 6 weeks
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Brownlow smokey.... :shh
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Brownlow smokey.... :shh
250 to 1 ....... :shh
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On B&F pace right now, one of the best players in the comp over the last 6 weeks
Proved it again today. Great game :clapping.
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Brownlow smokey.... :shh
actually agree with that
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was magic today
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The guy is just a ball magnet and is hard to tackle. Having a cracking season. :clapping
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Elite ball winner & clearance machine, underrated evasive skills and abilty to break tackles which all more than make up for the "enigmatic" disposal... :shh
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was a beast today, last quarter was massive
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Said it previously but this guy's agility has improved so much. Very evasive now, lots of hip strength also, difficult to tackle.
B&F for me.
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Tigers' Prestia fit for AFL finals
Anna Harrington
Busselton Mail
September 3 2019
Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia says he'll be fit to face Brisbane in Saturday's AFL qualifying final.
Prestia walked laps at training on Friday as he dealt with some Achilles soreness but is expected to face the Lions.
"Definitely. I don't think I'll be missing a final game from soreness, that's for sure," Prestia told AAP.
"Yeah just fine, ready to go."
Prestia said he'd pulled up sore after recent games in wet weather but had been able to train this week.
"It just got sore after the game and probably the last two weeks playing in the wet," he said.
"Yeah it's been probably good having the week off this week and just able to manage that through.
"But (I've) been able to train Saturday, today and Thursday as well, we'll have another session. "
After an injury-free off-season, Prestia played all 22 of Richmond's home and away games this year, the first time he'd achieved that since 2014.
"I guess looking at my two years before that, it's just being able to roll into a normal off-season, so no off-season surgery for me this year and I was able to just slowly build up instead of having to catch up in December or January and try to get to round one in a couple of weeks," he said.
"So I think that was just the main part, why I've been able to stay consistent. Haven't really missed any training throughout the week and just been consistent.
"Even if it's just doing strides on the sideline or coming out of a few drills here or there, I've been able to really stay consistent throughout the year."
With the likes of Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt missing significant chunks of the season through injury - and Alex Rance out for the year - Prestia is among the Tigers to have stepped up.
"I definitely probably see it as my best year so far," Prestia said.
"I guess being in a successful team allows you to help that but probably just having more of a role I guess, having a lot of injuries to our senior players like (Trent) Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and 'Rancey' as well.
"So just having to step up and I guess take a little bit more on myself instead of letting them do it in a way has probably helped me through the midfield especially."
https://www.busseltonmail.com.au/story/6365502/tigers-prestia-fit-for-afl-finals/?cs=10478
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A little untidy but was still massive tonight. 30 disposals, 17 contested and 10 tackles.
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Any word on his Achilles? Played it out but apparently was a bit sore.
Another week of recovery :)
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Dion Prestia has had a big game for the Tigers. He has a team-high 32 disposals, including 19 contested possessions, ten tackles, nine clearances and six score involvements, with 555 metres gained.
Dion Prestia has forced the opposition to commit 97 turnovers as a result of his pressure acts this season, ranked second in the AFL. Once again tonight, Prestia has led the way for the Tigers in the pressure stakes, with a game-high 27 pressure acts, including an equal game-high ten tackles.
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/24/bl-v-rich#/summary
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One of the best recruits I’ve seen come over from another club.
Works his arse off. If he was a better kick he’d be the complete midfielder.
Will probably win our B & F.
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He'd be arguably the best pure midfielder in the comp if he could kick... :shh
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Prestia, 26, gathered a game-high 32 disposals and 10 tackles in what was the Tigers’ first interstate finals victory.
He has been battling achilles soreness in recent weeks, conceding it was “pretty sore” over the bye weekend.
Such an injury can be troublesome and Prestia admitted there had been reminders of horror stories, but Saturday night’s performance had boosted his confidence.
“Being able to manage it (in the bye week) was the best thing. I was still able to train three or four times … but it was pretty sore,” he said.
“We go again hopefully two more times.
“I always think of when (basketballer) Kobe Bryant snapped his achilles … but I’ve been able to manage it over the last couple of weeks and (how I played) gave me a lot of confidence going into the prelim.
“Being able just to play the way I did and change direction and going on long runs is probably the hardest thing and you’ve got to think about it. I’m really happy with how it’s going.”
Richmond will face either West Coast or Geelong in its home preliminary final in a fortnight and might be favourite to win this year’s premiership, but Prestia stopped short of declaring the feeling was similar to that of the team’s 2017 glory.
“I don’t want to jinx us or anything,” he smiled.
“Having the week off will be good to see who we come up against.
“We obviously got West Coast a couple of weeks ago (in Round 22) and Geelong knocked us off in the middle of the year, so it should be very interesting that game.”
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/captain-trent-cotchin-motivates-tigers-by-reminding-teammates-of-those-out-of-the-finals-race/news-story/83ebce5296efbfc8b883de1d36038032)
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From Robbo's "Likes" column:
2. Dion Prestia
Dustin Martin was the terminator and Shane Edwards the architect, and Prestia slips by with another 30-plus possession game. Prestia has become a critical player for the Tigers. His past seven games have delivered 32, 30, 39, 35, 31, 35 and 30 disposals. Prestia’s role in the midfield has allowed Martin to play more forward. It will be interesting to see where Prestia finishes in the club best-and-fairest. Top three?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-heat-turns-up-on-chris-scott-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-finals-week-one/news-story/f59ddafdc75f046028aafa39a198e451
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28 possies and 2 goals. Hand Prestia the B&F now :clapping.
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Just edged out by Lynch for best on ground for mine. Pick 6 what a bargain!
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Better than whoever wins this year's Brownlow. :shh
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He is so good. One of our best recruits ever.
Without him we were stuffed.
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another terrific performance
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Dion Prestia – 8
A huge game for the human meatball, kicking two goals to go with 28 disposals to top off an outstanding effort. The dominant midfielder on the ground with his strong clearance work and ability to burst away from stoppages. His goal in the last quarter punched the Tigers' Grand Final ticket.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-20/every-tiger-rated-from-the-preliminary-final
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Dion Prestia has been an unsung hero for Richmond tonight. The Tiger midfielder has 28 disposals, 13 contested possessions, seven clearances, five tackles, two goals and a team-high 744 metres gained.
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/26/rich-v-geel#/summary
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He has been sensational since we got him. Worth the pick and the money he is getting.
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Should (rightly) win the JD medal in just over a week
Absolute gun
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has become the linchpin really, he has been amazing, reliable, and durable.
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I thought he was our equal best with Lynch. His finishing went up a level too. :clapping
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Outstanding game. His tackling was brilliant. The goals he kicked were critical.
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Dion Prestia – 7
Started like a house on fire with 11 first-quarter disposals, forcing the Giants to move de Boer from Martin over to him. Was quieter as the match wore on, but would have taken great delight in putting the ball on the chest of his former Gold Coast teammate Tom Lynch for a third-quarter goal.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-28/player-ratings-richmond
DION PRESTIA 8
Capped a brilliant finals series with another blistering ballwinning performance. Had de Boer riding him early but shrugged off the attention to be one of the Tigers’ highest possession-getters, yet again.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/afl-grand-final-player-ratings-dustin-martin-and-bachar-houli-shine-toby-green-phil-davis-flop/news-story/3b13f40fe020027c0e71ae275f356ff2
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"It's nearly the best accolade in footy, winning a best and fairest in a premiership year. And Prestia had a big finals series as well"
- Matthew Lloyd re: Dion Prestia's best and fairest win for the Tigers
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Richmond trading pick No.6 for Dion Prestia would be a mistake, says Kane Cornes - Herald Sun, September 1, 2016
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-trading-pick-no6-for-dion-prestia-would-be-a-mistake-says-kane-cornes/news-story/5cdb40ec176ddae425a6e89c3f9931a0
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF1IHLsU4AEweEg?format=png&name=small)
;D
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"they're not in the premiership window"
3 years and 2 premierships later....
Just to reiterate. With Pick 6 (and a second rounder) we were able to bring in Prestia, Caddy & Jack Graham.
Anyway...
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Congratulations to him. Well deserved.
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Great bump!!!
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Just to reiterate. With Pick 6 (and a second rounder) we were able to bring in Prestia, Caddy & Jack Graham.
Anyway...
2016:
Pick 6 (became 7 – Scrimshaw) & 2017 second rounder (38 – Pettrucelle) for Prestia (2 flags & 2019 JDM) & 2016 pick 24.
Pick 24 (Parfitt) then traded for Caddy (2x flags) & pick 51 (Jack Graham, 1 flag, Francis Bourke Medallist, Legend).
Good shooting. #gotiges
— Simon Wallace (@rfcswallace) October 1, 2019
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1179157470201073665
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Dion Prestia is ready to go for 2020
Chris Cavanagh
Herald Sun
15 February 2020
Prestia’s availability ... is good news for Tigers fans, given the 27-year-old has spent a fair portion of pre-season in the club’s rehabilitation group.
Prestia produced his remarkable 2019 season and won his first Jack Dyer Medal despite battling an achilles issue in the second half of the year.
Fighting through the injury, he managed to play all 25 games and averaged a career-high 27.4 disposals, along with 4.9 inside-50s, 6.5 score involvements and 4.9 tackles.
“I haven’t been with the main group for the entire pre-season because I carried achilles soreness throughout most of the back end of last year,” he said.
“We pushed my program back a bit more to give me more time off after the season finished and it’s been more of a slow build-up for me.”
Prestia has ramped up his program in the past few weeks, joining the gruelling pre-season camp on the Gold Coast.
“The humidity and the heat was absolutely terrible,” he said.
Like 14 current teammates, Prestia played in a second premiership in three years for the Tigers last year.
But he is hungry for more and has seen enough over summer to suggest the rest of the playing group is, too.
“In training, even just the last few weeks, our defence is so good and in-your-face,” Prestia said.
The term “dynasty” has been thrown around in the conversation about Richmond since Hardwick’s side crushed Greater Western Sydney by 89 points on Grand Final day.
Former Brisbane Lions coach Leigh Matthews, who led the Lions to a three-peat of flags from 2001-03, says a dynasty requires three premierships in “a relatively confined period of time”.
“You look at dynasties and think about Brisbane when Leigh (Matthews) was coaching them and Hawthorn of the early 2010s,” Prestia said.
“We’re so lucky to have been able to play in one premiership, let alone two. If we can get another one it would be absolutely amazing.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-is-ready-to-go-for-2020-and-wants-to-play-in-state-of-origin-game/news-story/48cdfa592d913e2c5af520584185d003
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Has become a gun. Pick 6 for him has ended up being a bargain price.
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Has become a gun. Pick 6 for him has ended up being a bargain price.
Imagine if we kept the pick and got Scrimshaw :chuck
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Absolutely vital
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Has become a gun. Pick 6 for him has ended up being a bargain price.
Sure has, but it's worth remembering that he was struggling with knee issues at the time wasn't he?
Has been very well managed at RFC. At his current output, pick 6 appears to be unders. But at the time pick 6 was considered potentially overs.
Brilliant job by the club :)
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Pick 6 and an exchange of lower picks i believe
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When you add in the extra value of the picks exchanged we got Dion for pick 8.
Great trade by the recruiting dept. I must confess I was a skeptic for the first year but an am an abashed convert.
Go Dion.
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Pick 6 and an exchange of lower picks i believe
6 and 24 for Prestia and a 2017 2nd rounder.
Traded 24 for Caddy
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Like most people at the time, isnt hindsight great for some here, I was of the Kornes opinion and felt we needed to continue to go hard at the draft.
Always felt Prestia was a B grade player, for me thats a good to very good player at least, Im happy to say i probably underestimated him.but the timing and circumstance was wrong for me. Another thing we did get right was the age we got hm as a just turned 24 yr old theres also a lesson there.
Imo his best season to date and he only played the first 8 games was 2015 he was an absolute contested ball winner and clearance machine in those games.
If anyone puts his hand up and says 2017 was not a surprise then id say they are liars.The majority of supporters were also in the Kornes camp.
With hindsight im very glad we got him and the lesson is there for everyone if your going to use high picks in trades for players make sure they are very good proven players and are going to be around for awhile.
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What are we paying this guy again? LIke $700,000/year?
Bargain FMD
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My Story: Dion Prestia opens up on his move to Richmond, his nickname and the best player he’s played with
Dion Prestia
Herald-Sun
31 May 2020
EARLY DAYS AT GOLD COAST
I SPENT most of my draft year in 2010 thinking I wouldn’t be selected.
The taller athletic types seemed to be all the rage at the time, so I didn’t like my chances.
My height was a big knock and clubs questioned whether I’d be able to compete with the taller mids.
I couldn’t do anything about my height, so I always made sure I was one of the fittest as that was something I could control. Same with my skills.
The draft was on the Gold Coast and it wasn’t until I got invited to attend with about 15 others that I thought it was going to happen.
My manager Marty Pask also had Dyson Heppell as a client and there was a bit of talk the night before the draft he would go to Essendon at pick No.8.
That’s where I thought I may have been going and, at the time, joining Essendon would have been amazing.
I probably would still be living at home in Craigieburn had I become a Bomber, but going to Gold Coast was my next choice and they took me one pick later.
I’d finished my exams at Assumption College, the next week I was drafted and two days later I was on the Gold Coast living with a host family.
SUNS DEBUT
My AFL debut was memorable for a few reasons.
It was Gold Coast’s first game so it was a big occasion, and I was to debut with 11 other players that night.
We all thought we were a fair chance heading into the clash with Carlton at the Gabba, but we were thrashed. It was a fast reality check.
I remember spending some time on Chris Judd, which felt unbelievable as an 18-year-old who had admired him for years.
He once tackled me too high and the umpire blew the whistle.
“I just won a free kick from Chris Judd, that’s unbelievable,” I thought.
My first win came against Richmond and so was my second win the following year in Cairns when Karmichael Hunt goaled after the final siren.
That’s a feeling I’ll never forget, even though Richmond is my team for life now.
They were the only two wins I experienced in my first two seasons.
COMING HOME
I enjoyed the Gold Coast, but the lure of playing for a big Melbourne club had been a lifelong dream.
I grew up in a Demons family and we’d often go to games at the MCG.
I could never really see from our seats, so I’d take a footy with me and often sneak off to the back of the seating section with my cousin for a kick.
As I got older I noticed the atmosphere more and I always wanted to know what that felt like.
The thought of playing in front of the huge Tiger army drew me to Richmond.
That move at the end of 2016 worked itself out in the end.
Richmond was the best deal to get done for the Suns and I did everything I could to let them know of my intentions.
Staying at the Suns remained an option, but I’d spent six years there and had given it a massive crack.
It was time to come home to Melbourne.
HUMAN MEATBALL
These days everyone seems to think the nickname was coined by Brian Taylor.
It was actually given to me by Gold Coast teammate Michael Rischitelli in my first season, back when I was a few kilos heavier than I am now.
He just started calling me “The Human Meatball”, it made its way down to Melbourne and “BT” ran with it.
I went to school with BT’s second-oldest son, Jordan, at Assumption College, and I think that’s why he doesn’t mind pumping me up a fair bit on the commentary.
I don’t mind the nickname.
The best thing is when kids during games or at training yell out “Meatball!”
It’s certainly a good icebreaker at junior clinics.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/my-story-dion-prestia-opens-up-on-his-move-to-richmond-his-nickname-and-the-best-player-hes-played-with%2Fnews-story/8918cb309d22f1eb87f053eed241afa1
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Is Dion playing sore or carrying some injury? He may just simply be out of form like most of the team but hearing whispers he isn't right.
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The way Prestia being consolled on the bench by Dimma it seemed like an ACL but Prestia in the post-game interview said it's an ankle.
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The way Prestia being consolled on the bench by Dimma it seemed like an ACL but Prestia in the post-game interview said it's an ankle.
Good news I guess. Now need to wait for the scans.
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The way Prestia being consolled on the bench by Dimma it seemed like an ACL but Prestia in the post-game interview said it's an ankle.
I reckon they’re playing mind games.
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not sure if he had done his acl he would be walking around without crutches
where is the doc when you need him?
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Radio says syndesmosis, same as Nank. A month out.
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not sure if he had done his acl he would be walking around without crutches
where is the doc when you need him?
You can actually
Know someone who did their ACL, terrible pain when it first happened but within in couple of hours walking arpund normally
But will trust the club on this, Dion said ankle believe him
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whatever it is WP, it is.
for the first time im actually really not worried. We cant lose the talent we lost last year and be all that concerned with anything else that comes our way.
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not sure if he had done his acl he would be walking around without crutches
where is the doc when you need him?
You can actually
Know someone who did their ACL, terrible pain when it first happened but within in couple of hours walking arpund normally
But will trust the club on this, Dion said ankle believe him
If it was an ACL he would definitely be on crutches. If it was a serious ankle he would have been on crutches also. I’d say low grade so 2-3 weeks. Nank looked a little more serious which is a shame. He was arguably playing the best footy since his 1st year at the club
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Prestia has had a minor procedure on his injured ankle.
source: RFC website
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Wonder if he's done for the year?
I think we'll struggle to do it without him.
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Dion won't be back now until the start of finals.
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Hopefully he can get back for the bye (Crows game).
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Gez him and Dave both had to have minor procedures while returning from injury not to my liking from fitness staff get it right first time.
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It could be worse georgies, we should be lucky we aren’t the pies or the bombers both with horrid runs of injuries to key players.
Lynch breaks his finger and doesn’t miss a beat.
DeGoey breaks his finger and will miss 10 weeks.
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If I heard right, Mark Stevens said it's going to be race to get Prestia right for the finals after getting an infection in his foot.
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If I heard right, Mark Stevens said it's going to be race to get Prestia right for the finals after getting an infection in his foot.
You heard right
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Ch7 showed vision of Prestia on a tethered IV drip while walking laps at training. The procedure he had was to treat an infection in his injured ankle and the drip is to aid his recovery. He is expected to start running tomorrow. No word yet on when he will return to the side.
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Healy on the couch said something about aiming to play R18 vs crows
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Dion Prestia started running on Tuesday with an eye to returning in the first week of finals.
The reigning best and fairest has been connected to an intravenous drip in an attempt to flush out an infection stemming from his latest bout of ankle surgery late last month.
“He started running today with the IV drip still in, so he’s got a couple more days with that before it’s taken out,” Hardwick said.
"It’s starting to progress well. It's not the injury itself that's going to need a little bit of time, it's just everything around the injury," Hardwick said.
"With the soft tissue nature of the game, it will be the one thing we'll need to make sure we get Dion back to full fitness.
"We're hoping the bye at the front-end of the finals will be a blessing for him and give him another week of prep.
"Fingers crossed he gets some footy towards the back-end of the home and away season, but probably more likely the first couple weeks of finals."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/494478/premiership-midfielder-to-join-grimes-out-of-tigers-side
http://www.krockfootball.com.au/afl-news/injury-curse-worsens-tigers/
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"Dion's probably [aiming for] the first week of finals", coach Damien Hardwick said.
Prestia is expected to play at practice match level next week during the bye as he recovers from his ankle injury before the Tigers hope to have him back for their first final.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/507596/premiership-pair-set-to-return-for-tigers-stars-on-track-for-first-final)
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Gun Tiger faces crucial test to prove finals fitness
Richmond's Dion Prestia faces one last test before the Tigers' opening final.
By Mitch Cleary
afl.com.au
24 September 2020
A SCRATCH match on Saturday will determine whether reigning Richmond best and fairest Dion Prestia has done enough to play in the Tigers' qualifying final against Brisbane.
Prestia, 27, hasn't featured at AFL level since suffering a syndesmosis injury in round five that required surgery and required a follow-up procedure in August after an infection was discovered in the wound.
The Tigers are treading carefully with their gun midfielder and their caution could see him put on ice until the second week of finals if they deem he hasn't completed enough conditioning.
The match practice against a yet-to-be-confirmed opponent on Saturday will fall just six days out from their finals bout with the Lions at the Gabba.
"That'll be a challenge as to how we deal with both of them," Tigers senior club advisor Neil Balme told the club's podcast.
"We love Dion as a player, whether he's done quite enough (remains to be seen).
"We will then make the judgements of how well he's going (after match practice) and how well he feels and is he right from a conditioning point of view to play.
"If he is right, we'll want to play him but it'll be a challenge to fit him into the team.
"I think he's a reasonable chance, almost a certainty to play at some stage in the finals, it's still up in the air whether he plays the first one.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/510528/gun-tiger-faces-crucial-test-to-prove-finals-fitness
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Richmond had planned to play a scrimmage on Saturday and test Dion Prestia in that game, but that won't happen now. Club confident it won't change Prestia's chances of playing in QF next week. Tigers will train fully tomorrow and Prestia will be put through his paces then.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1308998378752290819
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I think Prestia has missed a lot of footy and I wouldn’t be upset if he wasn’t picked for the first final.
If it’s touch and go, why would you take the risk?
Bringing in Lynch and Bolton is enough IMO for a final.
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It's Brisbane. I reckon we can afford to carry and underdone Meatball against those pussies.
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It's Brisbane. I reckon we can afford to carry and underdone Meatball against those pussies.
Agree. Ease him in with 65% game time. With Graham doing the bullocking work inside and now Bolton proven as a midfielder and don’t forget we have Edwards back. Cotchin steps up to ease the burden so Dusty can move forward when feeling a goal is coming on. Lambert can run through their also and Ross if he’s still in the team.
I don’t see why Prestia wouldn’t play.
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It's Brisbane. I reckon we can afford to carry and underdone Meatball against those pussies.
Agree too. I'm prepared to carry him for a game to get him up to speed. Bring on the Meatball! :gotigers
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Richmond star Dion Prestia stepped up his bid for a finals return with a strong training session as he returns from ankle surgery.
@_AMcCormack7 #7NEWS
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1309415820825522179
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its a no for me, unless lynch is 100% fit with no restrictions at all.
then we could i guess take a slight risk with prestia, but not with both of them not at 100%.
Bolton in.
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its a no for me, unless lynch is 100% fit with no restrictions at all.
then we could i guess take a slight risk with prestia, but not with both of them not at 100%.
Bolton in.
If the club picks them then they’re fit to play.
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Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia reveals how he recovered from golden staph infection to return for finals.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-timing-premiership-tilt-to-perfection-again-hitting-top-form-heading-into-finals/news-story/20961f83d8d22342be0889aa85325e05
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How did we all see Prestia's first game back in almost 3 months?
20 disposals (7k, 13h, 7c, 13u, 70% eff.)
0 marks
4 tackles (1 tackle in50)
2 clearances (1 centre)
3 inside 50s
1 intercept
223 metres gained
2 score involvements
Dion Prestia
A phenomenal effort having not played a game since Round 5. Just the six contested possessions but got involved as much as you could ask for first up.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-second-qualifying-final-reviews-stats-tigers-best-and-worst-players/news-story/156df1b76297836ac1f12af8237ff86c)
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One of our best people complaining should not have played :banghead.
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One of our best people complaining should not have played :banghead.
He wasn't match fit and it showed. At times struggled with the pace of the game and he was slow at times
Momentum killer moment in the last when he was caught, simply because he was slow to react. We were moving it forward quickly early in the last and he got pinged, had someone out in front just to slow to react. HTB.
Will be better for the run but still question of it was the right call playing him after one scratch match, thst let's be honest was a game but just extended match simulation
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I’m shocked to be honest by your assessment.
Despite being underdone did much better than most others In the midfield.
Probably our second best after Graham. Did he make some errors sure but he wasn’t our worst.
He needed the game and he will be better for it.
Has the runs on the board and deserved the call up.
Right call in my opinion.
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Star midfielder Dion Prestia has pulled up in good shape after his first match since July.
"He'll get better again," Hardwick said of the reigning best-and-fairest winner.
"You can do as much training as you want, but the reality is as soon as you start playing games it's a different kettle of fish."
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/lynch-rated-definite-starter-in-afl-semi-c-1369930
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I’m shocked to be honest by your assessment.
Despite being underdone did much better than most others In the midfield.
Probably our second best after Graham. Did he make some errors sure but he wasn’t our worst.
He needed the game and he will be better for it.
Has the runs on the board and deserved the call up.
Right call in my opinion.
Graham was stuffing putrid
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No fan boy but I had Graham BOG for us.....Prestia on the other hand was crap like he always is when he comes back.....:shh
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Maybe Graham was alright, I'd had a couple
All I remember was him chasing tail
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I had Graham our best last week too.
Provided we win on Friday night, Prestia getting a chance to gain more match fitness before the Prelim is probably the only good thing to come out of us losing the QF.
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Graham, Shedda and Astbury will all benefit. Meaty, hmm, he’s not normally been a 1 match straight up to scratch type of player but I hope I’m wrong
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Dion Prestia
Wasn’t as influential as he has been in previous finals in recent years, but looks like he is ready to explode after missing majority of the season through injuries.
Rating: 5
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-st-kilda-second-semi-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/afdeaa6b7f13cced41d21c91e03b900e)
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Getting better every game.
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Seemed to have picked up a yard of pace from last week... :shh
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Dion Prestia
Got plenty of the footy but did have the six turnovers. No one per centers and just two tackles. Still, 22 contested possessions and six clearances.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
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No surprise our clearance stats improve when he is in the side
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Dion Prestia – 7
Not many would have had Prestia for first goalkicker, but the hard-nosed midfielder duly saluted after nearly 10 minutes of play. Bobbed up again to kick the ever-crucial first goal of the fourth term and finished with 14 touches.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/521174/tigers-player-ratings-no-passengers-on-the-tiger-train)
Dion Prestia
The Richmond midfielder booted the opening goal of the match after an action packed first 10 minutes. The ‘meatball’ was right in the thick of the contest after half-time when the Tigers needed a player to lift. He booted the first goal of the last.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-dustin-martin-player-ratings-tigers-stats-best-and-worst-players-afl-finals-gabba/news-story/2c23bd9c6b85150e3f828938dc9c0006)
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A lot people question him returning to our side because of his injury enough said.
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Not a lot of ball, but loads of grunt.
Hope he stays fit over summer and kills it again next year.
Normally suspect kicking for goal too, so nice to see him make it hurt.
Love him
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What did we give up for this guy? Pick 6? Absolute bargain!!!
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kicked two really nice goals. Last one being critical.
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What did we give up for this guy? Pick 6? Absolute bargain!!!
Exactly 3 flags :o
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Just heard on the news he suffered a setback in training to his ankle which the club are downplaying.
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Never like it when they down play these injuries, hope he's ok.
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Burge says it is only a minor tweaked ankle) and Prestia will be back to full training next week :pray.
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As far as mids go imo he is one of the big three for us.
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Hearing he's done his hammy. :(
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Hearing he's done his hammy. :(
Yep.
Scans on Dion Prestia's hamstring have shown a medial strain. It's expected to be a short-to-medium term injury.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1362609981573398542
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RICHMOND STAR IN DOUBT FOR ROUND 1 AFTER HAMSTRING SETBACK
Sam Edmund
SEN
19 February 2021
RICHMOND star Dion Prestia looks set to miss the start of the season after suffering a hamstring injury.
Prestia is expected to be sidelined for 3-4 weeks with the soft tissue strain, making him an unlikely starter for the Tigers’ AFL season-opener next month.
Richmond is set to unfurl two premiership flags against Carlton at the MCG on March 18 in a match likely to be the first in Melbourne with fans since the 2019 Grand Final.
While many sides have been hit by injuries in a condensed pre-season, the Tigers had enjoyed a charmed run over summer.
But Damien Hardwick and co. will most likely have to make do without Prestia – the club’s 2019 best and fairest winner - for the season start.
It’s a frustrating setback for Prestia, whose 2019 campaign was hit by a syndesmosis injury that sidelined him for three months.
Yet he returned for Richmond’s finals campaign, playing all four finals and kicking two goals in the Grand Final against Geelong to claim his third premiership medal.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/02/19/richmond-star-in-doubt-for-round-1-after-hamstring-setback/
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FFS :-\
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A medial hammy seems unusual. That's the inner thigh rather than the typical back of the thigh hammy.
There appears to be a fair few injuries across the clubs this preseason. Wonder if it's due to the extra training loads given games are returning to the normal length this year and player's bodies aren't yet use to it.
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Prestia returned from ankle surgery last year and complications to feature in the club's back-to-back flag win but has had an interrupted pre-season, with a recent hamstring injury ruling him out of Richmond's lead-in games.
"Dion's had a bit of a stagnated period. He's probable at this stage for round one. He probably won't play any of our practice matches at this stage just to make sure he does get right," Hardwick said.
"He's got some tightness in the medial hamstring, which is not severe. We're not overly worried about it, we just have to manage that along the way."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/550654/can-dusty-get-even-better-superstar-primed-after-incredible-pre-season)
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Of the hamstring strain he incurred late last week, Prestia said: "It is just a little hamstring – it is in a good spot if you are going to do a hamstring.
"I'll be good for round one, it is just a little hiccup. The pre-season was really good until that, but this happens."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/552096/locked-and-loaded-huge-deals-for-triple-premiership-tigers)
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Your club's underrated performance: Round 2
Rhys Knight
theRoar.com.au
29 March 2021
Richmond – Dion Prestia
The man affectionately known as the ‘Human Meatball’ did struggle in the pre-season with a hamstring injury but he is getting back to his best form.
A winner of a best and fairest during the premiership year in 2019, with Dustin Martin mostly taking up the media’s attention, even on Sunday afternoon, Prestia topped the Tigers’ disposal count with 29.
He had a handful of inside 50s, took four marks and laid four tackles and for someone who isn’t known as an elite ball user, he went at 82 per cent and was fantastic.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/03/29/your-clubs-underrated-performance-round-2/
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'Prestia's done a hammy. It’s too early to say but he didn’t finish the game so there’s a fair chance he’ll miss multiple weeks moving forward.
We did miss Dion as he is one of the best transitional mids in the game but Sydney showed us up in the area of the game. They worked incredibly hard. We know their contest to contest work is strong. The players they've brought into the side only increases that. They've got a really good mix and are playing a really good brand of footy at this stage'.
- Dimma post-game.
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Dion Prestia is also set for three to four weeks on the sidelines after scans revealed the Tigers onballer suffered a typical hamstring strain in Saturday’s loss.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-to-have-knee-surgery-20210404-p57gdw.html)
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These are really concerning.
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He somehow manages to get up for finals which is handy.
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Fox Footy tonight said Dion will miss 4 weeks.
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Prestia had been nursing a hamstring strain but suffered the calf setback last week.
"He had a bit of calf tightness last week so just as we thought we were getting him back he's had that so how far that puts him back we're not too sure, but he won't play next week," Hardwick said.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/600003/another-one-bites-the-dust-martin-among-injured-tigers-who-will-miss-date-with-dogs)
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Missing him big time.... :shh
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Missing him big time.... :shh
Yes we really are. I think we would have beaten Port if he was playing.
His injuries have always been a concern but personally I can see this crippling his career. Maybe 15 games/year for him at best.
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Missing him big time.... :shh
Totally agree. Missing Nick as well big time.
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Yep really missed. Yet we refuse to bring in and give good game time to an inside ball winner like him. That problem is now exacerbated with the loss of Lambert and Dusty.We really need to pick genuine mids.
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How did we all see Prestia's game on return?
19 disposals (10k, 9h, 11c, 9u, 78.9% eff.)
2 marks
5 tackles (1 tackle in F50)
3 clearances (2 centre)
3 inside 50s
124 metres gained
3 intercepts
4 score involvements
74% time on ground
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Terrific after such a long time out :clapping
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Arguably our most important player
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Stats not amazing but what a huge difference he and Cotch made in the middle FMD.
Took 3 of those bee atches to bring him down every time.
Draws mids, wins hard ball. Love the guy. I hope he keeps his body right from now til October.
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Terrific after such a long time out :clapping
Agree - usually takes him couple of matches to shake of the rust...but not today,,, :shh
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Any update on Dion's injury? Can't find anything specific anywhere :huh.
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It looked precautionary for me.
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It looked precautionary for me.
To give Rioli a few minutes?
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It looked precautionary for me.
Can you use the sub for precautionary reasons? I thought it had to be a genuine injury to be subbed off.
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Sam Lansburger from the HUN saying on Twitter that it was hamstring tightness with Dion
Suggested Lambert will come in for Prestia
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Sam Lansburger from the HUN saying on Twitter that it was hamstring tightness with Dion
Suggested Lambert will come in for Prestia
Yep. Confirmed by Dimma.
Midfielder Dion Prestia was substituted out of the game in the fourth quarter complaining of hamstring tightness and is in doubt for the West Coast clash, Hardwick said.
Source: AFL website.
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No ping, no tear, no strain. Purely precautionary as he felt the hammy tighten up. Will probably miss Sunday (could play if a Prelim/GF with the right management/treatment) and with the bye he’ll have 2 weeks off and he’ll be cherry ripe.
https://twitter.com/AnthChristo/status/1401167101180608517
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No ping, no tear, no strain. Purely precautionary as he felt the hammy tighten up. Will probably miss Sunday (could play if a Prelim/GF with the right management/treatment) and with the bye he’ll have 2 weeks off and he’ll be cherry ripe.
https://twitter.com/AnthChristo/status/1401167101180608517
Thanks goodness. Great news!
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Tom Browne said Dion is having a scan tomorrow on his hammy. He won't be playing next week.
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Tom Browne said Dion is having a scan tomorrow on his hammy. He won't be playing next week.
Browneye is clueless - that’s a guess as no one talks to him
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Well Tom Browne on 7news tonight is now saying Prestia will miss "a couple of weeks".
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1401462917673877504
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Broady said Dion is feeling good and had a run around today. Doesn't think anything was there and scans weren't needed. Hoping Dion gets up for this week.
Go to 5 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/954662/-the-boys-really-create-energy-off-each-other-broad
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Broady said Dion is feeling good and had a run around today. Doesn't think anything was there and scans weren't needed. Hoping Dion gets up for this week.
Go to 5 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/954662/-the-boys-really-create-energy-off-each-other-broad
Is he allowed to play via medical sub rule??
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Well Tom Browne on 7news tonight is now saying Prestia will miss "a couple of weeks".
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1401462917673877504
The clueless one strikes again. How the hell does he stay employed?
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Is he allowed to play via medical sub rule??
IIRC it's not a hard fast rule. As long as the medico "reasonably determines" during the game that it's a likely 12-day injury can the sub be used. However, if it later turns out it's not as serious as first thought then that player can play the following week. Only if it was concussion is it mandatory to not play for 12 days.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/563193/afl-statement-on-new-medical-sub-rule
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Star midfielder Dion Prestia was subbed out of last weekend’s Dreamtime win over Essendon with another soft tissue issue, but according to his coach is some chance of getting up for the Eagles clash.
However, with Prestia’s history of calf and hamstring injuries, the club will be taking a cautious approach especially with the bye next weekend.
“Yeah, there’s a chance,” Hardwick said of Prestia.
“He’ll do some running today and then we’ll have a better understanding on Friday.
“He had some tightness which is obviously a worry with Dion. He was coming back off a calf and an early hamstring.
“It’s one of those ones that’s touch and go. We’re pretty conservative with our injuries and he’s a very important player so we won’t push the envelope if there’s any doubt at all.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/08/star-midfielder-a-chance-as-key-tigers-prepare-to-return/)
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
"the point" would be to help win this important game against a top 8 rival.
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If the club thinks he's fit I would play him
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
If they play him we know the subbing was a ruse
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Dion named. So at this stage he is playing.
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
If they play him we know the subbing was a ruse
I would have chosen someone different
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
If they play him we know the subbing was a ruse
I would have chosen someone different
There would literally be no reason for this. If the game was still in the balance why would we sub out one of our best players if not for injury. From what I can remember the game was over by then so why wouldn’t they just leave him on the bench and play a rotation down for 2 minutes instead of risking it?
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He’s the guy you’d rest late in a game. Don’t ask me why but it feels like they’ve chosen to play Maurice Jnr’s nephew to indulge him kicking a cheapie when the game was over
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No point risking Prestia for one game. Give him the week off which with the bye then allows his hammy no matter how minor a full three weeks between games to fully be right. Dion's too important to risk on one H/A match.
If they play him we know the subbing was a ruse
Not necessarily. A doc has to approve the substitution so it's on the doc's reputation as well. Dion said he felt hammy tightness and probably couldn't play on. Why would we take a key mid off if he was fine when the game was still up for grabs?
Edit: TK beat me to it.
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Listening to Dimma's presser today, it sounds like Prestia won't play. Might be shadow boxing but he's not normally one to do that.
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Listening to Dimma's presser today, it sounds like Prestia won't play. Might be shadow boxing but he's not normally one to do that.
Yep, it sounds doubtful Dion will play.
"He's questionable at this stage, we'll see how he goes at training but we're hopeful he can get up and play the game for us," Hardwick said.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/629180/dimma-backs-24-7-delisted-free-agency-after-big-scare)
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As mentioned in the team thread, Prestia is a late withdrawal according to SEN just now.
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Ch 9 said Prestia was moving freely at training but clearly we didn't want to risk him.
Watch from 1:20 min mark: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1403273662665527298
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Out with hamstring tightness again.
Source: SEN (via Dimma).
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"Dion unfortunately won't play either, he's pulled up a bit tight from a hamstring injury, which we just haven't seemed to – it just keeps moving from side to side, so he's another guy who won't play this week," Hardwick said.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/639362/another-star-tiger-down-as-dimma-ponders-debutant-to-face-suns)
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Hopefully Prestia is only a week away if he's back training with the main group :pray.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E699KlIVIAE0HO6?format=jpg&name=large)
Source: RFC twitter.
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Hopefully Prestia is only a week away if he's back training with the main group :pray.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E699KlIVIAE0HO6?format=jpg&name=large)
Source: RFC twitter.
I think they said recently that they wanted him to train with the main group for two weeks before playing, so maybe 2 weeks away.
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Put Maurice Rioli Jnr in the middle and tell him he has to play as good as his dad. :rollin
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IF MJR can stick a tackle then he's already ahead of the majority of our list... :shh
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Dimma said Prestia played a half in the scratch match today.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1265688488185180160/o4gsG_FE.jpg)
Understatement to say we need Dion badly back in our midfield. Touchwood his hammies hold up :pray.
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"(Dion) hasn't had the year both he and I would like, but the fact of the matter is he's back and available to play this week," Hardwick said.
"He's such an important player to us, a best and fairest winner. They're so important, those transition mids. They're very hard to find and we've got one of the bests in the league.
"So, it's a welcome relief to have him back and we look forward to him building on the last four games plus whatever it may be at the end of the season."
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/989460/round-20-team-announcement/)
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How did we all see Prestia's return game?
31 disposals (11k, 20h, 10c, 22u, 74.4%)
5 marks
5 tackles (3 inside F50)
1 clearance
4 inside 50s
371m gained
9 score involvements
5 intercepts
80% time on ground.
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Showed again how badly he's been missed this year.... :shh
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Helping The Tigers’ cause to keep their finals run alive is the return of Dion Prestia, who played just his seventh game for the season on Sunday.
He was one of Richmond’s best, with 31 possessions (10 of those contested) and five tackles.
Hardwick said Prestia just hasn’t been available enough this season.
“It’s reflective of our season. He helps us, there is no doubt about that,” he said.
“Those transitional mids are damaging. On the other side, (Andrew) Brayshaw, (Adam) Cerra and David Mundy, who is 45 years of age, keep getting the job done.
“They move from contest to contest. Those players are hard to find and when you get good ones, they make an incredible difference.
“We have Dion, who has been available at stages throughout the year, but it hasn’t been enough for us.”
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.couriermail.com.au/remote/check_cookie.html?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.couriermail.com.au%2fsport%2fafl%2ffremantle-dockers-all-but-end-richmond-tigers-afl-finals-hopes%2fnews-story%2ff3115f8ecc553444489bc8a8aa40d402)
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THE PLAYER AT YOUR CLUB WHO COULD BE A BIG FACTOR IN 2022
Andrew Slevison
SEN
26 October 2021
All the talk at this time of year has surrounded the new recruits your club has brought through the doors, but what about the ‘new recruits’ already inside?
These are the players who were not factors in 2021 for various reasons, but could be big factors in 2022.
Whether it’s a serious injury, greater opportunities or a new role opening up, these are the players at all 18 clubs who will be greatly welcomed back in 2022.
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Dion Prestia
The 2019 best and fairest has struggled to consistently make an impact over the past two years.
Yes, Dion Prestia helped the Tigers win a third flag in 2020, but he only managed nine games. The same this year.
In 2021 it was the soft tissue curse which struck, with his calves and hamstrings playing up again.
He missed a large portion of the first half of the season, failing to grace the field between Rounds 3 and 11, before playing just four times from Round 15.
Prestia is so vital to Richmond through the middle with his two-way running and clever hands the main features of his game. His contested ball winning ability was also clearly missing.
A full season will help right many of the wrongs the Tigers have experienced in the midfield of late.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/26/the-player-at-all-18-clubs-who-could-be-a-big-factor-in-2022/
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At his age and injury profile I doubt we get 15 games from him. I would start him late and rest him a lot.
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At his age and injury profile I doubt we get 15 games from him. I would start him late and rest him a lot.
Works OK if we're winning...
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Dion Prestia, who played only nine games after repeated calf and hamstring issues
“Dion had a really interrupted year and it was frustrating for us and him. In the last 13 weeks he’s been in here training nearly every single day and he had a fantastic base until he got Covid the other week. But he was back today. He is giving himself every possible chance. Sometimes players just get in a cycle where one soft tissue injury leads to another but we learnt a bit we can put into action this year.” - Peter Burge.
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-follow-the-latest-offseason-injury-news-and-updates/news-story/b5a5bf03c94f23b42458717e9196ae36)
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At his age and injury profile I doubt we get 15 games from him. I would start him late and rest him a lot.
Works OK if we're winning...
The bloke has played all games just three times in eleven seasons. He is closing in on 30 next year and the injuries are not likely to go away.
Better to have him for limited game time making an impact than not at all weather we are winning or losing i reckon he is at an age where managing him has become even more important.
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Dion Prestia has produced his most comprehensive pre-season since moving to Tigerland at the end of 2016, with those inside the football department thrilled with his output following an injury-interrupted period for the midfielder.
Prestia has been riddled by soft-tissue issues during his time at Richmond, with the 29-year-old managing only nine games in 2021 after just nine the year before.
But after banking a solid training block in October and November ahead of Richmond's official return to training, Prestia has strung together an eye-catching December and January to lay the foundations for a big season.
Richmond is expected to now dedicate more time on match simulation ahead of next month's practice match against Geelong and the Tigers' AAMI Community Series game against Hawthorn on March 5.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/700054/dust-right-tigers-superstar-finally-ready-to-return-to-full-training)
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I really hope the hype is true. He needs a nice big year. Something like 2019.
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Just needs to stay fit & he'll be right
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Richmond Physical Performance Manager Peter Burge said 2019 best and fairest Dion Prestia had had his best pre-season with the club after being hampered by soft tissue injuries which have restricted him to 18 games across the past two years.
“Last October or November he set out to really get some work into himself so when he came back he was well ahead of everyone else,” Burge said of Prestia.
“He couldn’t have gone about it any better, to be honest. He had a real determination in his pre-Christmas stuff to give himself every chance and give himself every chance with his work on the track and in the gym as well. There’s some things we have altered with his gym program to try and prevent some of the issues he’s had the last year or two. But if you just get some continuity through December and January it really does set you up to play more games.”
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-preseason-news-every-injury-and-selection-issue-at-your-club-for-the-2022-season/news-story/c8745e6b31d530ed830f99bd733071d1)
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Still in rehab group.
Mmm.
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‘I feel as good as I have felt’: Prestia back in mix after Tigers change approach
Michael Gleeson
The Age
February 6, 2022
The missing pieces of the Richmond puzzle are slowly falling back into place with midfielder Dion Prestia warning rumours of the death of the Tigers’ midfield are premature.
Prestia said he is back to full fitness and backed Jack Riewoldt’s assertion that the Richmond era is not yet over.
He believes Richmond’s midfield will be at full strength again, which should mean the fall from finals last year was an aberration and a consequence of the toll of a long time at the top.
A best and fairest winner in Richmond’s 2019 premiership year, Prestia missed almost all of last season with calf and hamstring injuries but says a new strength program has changed the way he trains, and he is now running as well as ever.
With Dustin Martin last year also out at length after he lacerated his kidney, and veterans Shane Edwards and Trent Cotchin both missing a handful of games each, Richmond’s midfield was thin and heavily reliant on Shae Bolton.
This year Martin and now Prestia are both fully fit and ready to return.
“I definitely believe we are right in the mix this year that’s for sure. Look at the midfield we have still - Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton had an amazing year, Shane Edwards, myself, Trent,” Prestia said
“I look at that midfield and think we are one of the top midfields in it still. And then we have [Ivan] Soldo coming back as well. Nank [Toby Nankervis] had to take a lot of the workload last year. Jack [Riewoldt] said the other day, ‘Do not write us off too quickly’ and I agree with him.”
Richmond’s midfield is returning to a more familiar look, with Martin and Prestia back. Edwards and Cotchin are in the twilight of their careers, but the Tigers are still looking strong behind the ball.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/i-feel-as-good-as-i-have-felt-prestia-back-in-mix-after-tigers-change-approach-20220206-p59u6m.html
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9 news reporting he has an ankle concern and had scans. Said just precautionary but this is very worrying news.
Anyone know anything further
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Prestia walked a couple of laps at training yesterday. We next train tomorrow morning. I'm guessing he'll missing the Hawthorn game.
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Anyone heard anything about meatball? Looks like he has been named flr
tomorrows game so hopefully it’s a non issue now.
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Anyone heard anything about meatball? Looks like he has been named flr
tomorrows game so hopefully it’s a non issue now.
Prestia trained fully in yesterday's 1.5 hr main session. Did every drill with no issues. He walked just a few laps apparently today but it was only the Captain's run. He's been picked for tomorrow so it sounds like he's fine (touchwood).
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Fantastic. Thought it may have been a typo but glad it wasn’t.
We need him.
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Dimma on Talking Tigers said if Dion hadn't missed so much footy over the past two years after winning the 2019 B&F, he would've won our past two B&Fs (2020-21) as well. That's how much Dimma said he rates Dion.
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Confirmed Dion has done a hamstring.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1504385596839858178
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Hes just about done. Its happening too often. Is this his last year on contract. He should only get 1 year contracts from here on imho.
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Hes just about done. Its happening too often. Is this his last year on contract. He should only get 1 year contracts from here on imho.
2 more to go.
We were way too generous
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Thats poor list management.
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He will be lucky to play 5 games a year, he will be on good dollars I would believe
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He will be lucky to play 5 games a year, he will be on good dollars I would believe
You'd think 6-800,000
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Hardwick said Prestia was devastated by another setback and will undergo scans on Friday to determine the severity.
"It's just disappointing; he's had as good a pre-season as he's had. He is so important to the way we play. I feel like he's barely played for two and a half years," he said.
"To get 10 touches in the first quarter and lo and behold we're up and going and then he goes out. He is a significant loss. I just really feel for the kid. He is so important to the way we play and the culture of the place as well.
"He was really disappointed and I'm disappointed for him. We want to see him on the field and up and about. It’s a challenging stage for him."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1080078/injury-concerns-for-key-tiger-duo
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Dion Prestia's latest injury an unmitigated disaster: Jon Ralph
“Lets not sugarcoat this, Richmond‘s latest hamstring injury with Dion Prestia is an unmitigated disaster ... hey just can’t trust his body anymore,” Herald Sun reporter Jon Ralph said.
“They’d believed they’d bulletproofed him, he had a flawless pre season. Only nine games last year off a calf injury and multiple hamstring injuries. They felt they’d actually cracked the code.”
Leigh Montagna, like many, felt for Prestia.
“He‘s done all pre-season, he’d be so keen. He’s so important to this team,” he said.
“Those contest numbers and ground ball numbers really dropped away in the second quarter and Dion Prestia had such a good first term.
“You feel for the young man, to miss that much footy in the last 18 months, it’d be driving him nuts.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/live-afl-2022-carlton-blues-vs-richmond-tigers-round-1-live-scores-updates-stats-video-stream-news-blog/news-story/65f9f66b80a4c4c36cae55bcabcf79ff
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He was initially contracted until end of 2021.
A year ago we extended him by 3 years until end of 2024, despite having significant injuries in 2020.
He then went on to have a crippled 2021 as well.
This is poor list management, offering a guy with injury concerns a healthy extension at least 6-8 months before the call needed to be made. Club at least should have waited until mid-year 2021.
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Dion to miss a month according to 7news.
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We used to be good enough to be able to cover for Prestia to be cherry ripe for finals where he always played brilliantly. Unfortunately we aren’t strong enough in the middle without him anymore. He had more than half the disposals of everyone not named short or dusty last night and only played 1 qtr. will be a massive massive loss.
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Bloke should hang em up. You'd think he's getting at least $2mil over his last 3 years.
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Bloke should hang em up. You'd think he's getting at least $2mil over his last 3 years.
Why should he?
You wouldn’t
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Bloke should hang em up. You'd think he's getting at least $2mil over his last 3 years.
Why should he?
You wouldn’t
I have a 4th kid coming this Friday haha.
Prestia has none.
Honestly we shouldn't have extended him so early.
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Bloke should hang em up. You'd think he's getting at least $2mil over his last 3 years.
Why should he?
You wouldn’t
I have a 4th kid coming this Friday haha.
Prestia has none.
Honestly we shouldn't have extended him so early.
Agree
It’s a club mistake.
More importantly, congrats and good lucky man. Hope mum and bub get through it all safe and sound.
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Dion to miss a month according to 7news.
So in club supporter time that equates to 8 weeks as I understand.
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Bloke should hang em up. You'd think he's getting at least $2mil over his last 3 years.
Why should he?
You wouldn’t
I have a 4th kid coming this Friday haha.
Prestia has none.
Honestly we shouldn't have extended him so early.
Agree
It’s a club mistake.
More importantly, congrats and good lucky man. Hope mum and bub get through it all safe and sound.
Thanks mate very kind of you. Excited not to be pregnant anymore. This one has been really hard on her.
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Congrats little Andy and Bub! A OE salutations to mum also for doing the heavy lifting
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Good luck with the new tiger.
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Congratulations on your little miracle
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Gun Tiger grounded by ANOTHER soft-tissue injury
Dion Prestia is expected to miss multiple weeks with a hamstring tear
By Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
21 March 2022
RICHMOND will be without Dion Prestia for the next few weeks after scans confirmed on Monday the star midfielder has suffered a hamstring tear.
The 29-year-old was substituted out of last Thursday night's round one loss to Carlton early in the second quarter, continuing his frustrating history of soft tissue issues.
Prestia was hampered by repeated hamstring issues throughout last season and has managed only nine games in 2021 after playing nine times in 2020.
AFL.com.au understands the former Sun isn’t suffering strains in the same spot, rather strains low, high and on the belly of the hamstring making the issue even more frustrating for Prestia and the high performance department at Richmond.
The three-time premierships midfielder looked set to turn the corner in 2022 following a standout pre-season that many inside the Swinburne Centre had labelled among the top few trainers on the track over the summer.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick expressed his disappointment for Prestia in the aftermath of the season-opener fade out at the MCG, a sentiment shared by the football department who had hoped the Victorian would get a clean run at it this season.
Prestia accumulated 10 touches in the opening quarter and was a key reason why the Tigers had burst out of the blocks against the Blues at the MCG.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/724557/gun-tiger-grounded-by-another-soft-tissue-injury
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Would that Doc in Germany with the calf blood injections be of use? :-\ Seemed to help Grimesy earlier in his career with his continual hamstring problems.
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Would that Doc in Germany with the calf blood injections be of use? :-\ Seemed to help Grimesy earlier in his career with his continual hamstring problems.
Burge doesn't believe in him. Doesn't think anyone knows more than him. He is starting to look like part of the problem not the solution.
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Update from Peter Burge:
Dion Prestia, hamstring
"It's quite a frustrating injury for us... Dion's had a fantastic preparation this year, uninterrupted, done a lot of work, put a lot of kilometres in, done a lot of strength work, and we've ended up with a soft tissue injury. It is on the minor side which is good news, he was out running today... With hamstring injuries, typically you injure the biceps muscle which is the large hamstring muscle and there are two other muscles that support that, the semitendinosus and semimembranosus. He's injured the semimembranosus component of his hamstring and the lower third of that, so it's on the minor side. Typically they turn around fairly quickly and that's what we're hoping will happen in this case. We're hoping to progress his running later in the week and then we'll have a more definitive timeline, but we're hoping it's fairly short-term."
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1083906/injury-report-round-2-2022)
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7news tonight showed vision of Prestia running at training today with Kmac and Floss. Saying he could be back by round 4.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1506177288584380416
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RICHMOND HOPEFUL DESPITE “FRUSTRATING” PRESTIA INJURY
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
25 March 2022
Richmond assistant coach Adam Kingsley says the club remains hopeful regarding Dion Prestia.
The three-time premiership midfielder suffered a hamstring injury in last week’s season-opening loss to Carlton and is out of the line-up for Sunday’s Round 2 meeting with GWS.
It is yet another soft tissue issue for Prestia who has played just 19 matches since the beginning of the 2020 season, also dealing with a syndesmosis injury in that year.
The 2019 best and fairest is arguably the Tigers’ most important player, especially around the ball, and there remains confidence that the 29-year-old can have a major impact in 2022 and beyond.
“Dion’s had a couple of issues in the last couple of years,” Kingsley said on SEN Breakfast.
“He’s had a syndesmosis in his ankle and then a few hamstrings. We haven’t yet lost confidence in Dion, but just the inconsistent nature of missing a couple, coming back, playing a chunk, missing a couple. Last year was a bit disappointing. The whole shortened pre-season really compromised his preparation to be fair.
“We’re hoping that this is just a hamstring injury that’s quite incidental and then he can move on because he has had a really strong pre-season.
“He was the one guy that we thought was really going to jump back to where he’s been in the past. You could argue in the first quarter-and-a-half that he played (against Carlton) he was outstanding.
“It’s a frustrating one. We’d love to have Dion out there each and every game, but we haven’t this week and we’ll see what that means moving forward whether he can get back.
“It is minor so whether we’re cautious with it and make sure or whether we get him back in for round three, I’m not sure what the planning is.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/24/richmond-hopeful-despite-frustrating-prestia-injury/
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Dion will be back this week according to Burge.
:pray
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Will enjoy his quarter immensely
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..and his subsequent retirement.... :shh
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Don't care what anyone says but simulated training methods and the real thing are so different when it comes to testing these sorts of injuries. Only seems to take a little extra stretch in the heat of the moment during real game time and ping it's gone again. Have no confidence in him stringing two games together but wish him the best of luck trying.
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Don't care what anyone says but simulated training methods and the real thing are so different when it comes to testing these sorts of injuries. Only seems to take a little extra stretch in the heat of the moment during real game time and ping it's gone again. Have no confidence in him stringing two games together but wish him the best of luck trying.
Lozza, tend to agree but good luck Dion
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Injuries happen. Here’s to a healthy 2022 for Prestia. Will make a huge difference !
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Dion's back :thumbsup
Now touchwood he can get through an entire game :pray.
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We just a better team with him there.
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Just a lazy 30 disposals and 1 goal :bow
Imagine if he didn’t have to constantly worry about his body letting him down.
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Maybe he should just keep his kicks short like Cotchin
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I think Cotchin once said it’s all the crouched running? But yes for the love of god I hope his hamstrings get looked after every minute of every day. The team is x100000 better with him in it
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I think Cotchin once said it’s all the crouched running? But yes for the love of god I hope his hamstrings get looked after every minute of every day. The team is x100000 better with him in it
He was always a massive sloucher when he ran haha. There used to be a FB page dedicated to his running style.
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Just a lazy 30 disposals and 1 goal :bow
Imagine if he didn’t have to constantly worry about his body letting him down.
Imagine if we had to worry about him handing our arse to us on a platter like he did in 3 GF’s?
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Just a lazy 30 disposals and 1 goal :bow
Imagine if he didn’t have to constantly worry about his body letting him down.
Imagine if we had to worry about him handing our arse to us on a platter like he did in 3 GF’s?
:huh
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Just a lazy 30 disposals and 1 goal :bow
Imagine if he didn’t have to constantly worry about his body letting him down.
Imagine if we had to worry about him handing our arse to us on a platter like he did in 3 GF’s?
:huh
I think what he's saying is Prestia played a big role in 3 flags when it mattered and we are fortunate he was with us and not against us.
If not, stuff knows
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Just a lazy 30 disposals and 1 goal :bow
Imagine if he didn’t have to constantly worry about his body letting him down.
Imagine if we had to worry about him handing our arse to us on a platter like he did in 3 GF’s?
:huh
I think what he's saying is Prestia played a big role in 3 flags when it mattered and we are fortunate he was with us and not against us.
If not, stuff knows
That’s what I thought but I don’t get the context as a response to what I said
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AFAIK GC never played him in other positions to "work on weaknesses" or "develop his game" early in his career.....pure inside mids are important to have on your list...take note coaching staff... :shh
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Dimma's post-game comments about Prestia:
Dimma: "Hope people realise what a special player he is. Not only to us but to the AFL in general. He's wonderful at what he does. We missed him."
Journo: "Are you doing anything different with Prestia?"
Dimma: "It's a good question but we were pleased with the tough training blocks he had. So while it was an injury to his hamstring it probably was one we felt reasonably comfortable with given the work he's done over the preseason. We've put him under stress to make sure he can withstand the rigours of an AFL season. Push come to shove we could have played him last week but we just wanted to make sure to get him right given how special he is and how important he is to us."
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1100121/round-4-hardwick-post-match)
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Prestia is as important as any Tiger
Don't let the hamstring setbacks or soft-tissue concerns of recent times cloud your memory - Prestia remains a huge cog in Richmond's hopes this season. The gun midfielder was as good as anyone on the ground in Saturday night's win over the Western Bulldogs, returning from his slight hamstring concern to have 30 disposals and a goal in Richmond's strong win. Prestia could have played in round three but the Tigers took a cautious approach with their star, and his impact upon being back was big. If he can stay fit for the rest of the season the complexion of Richmond's midfield looks very different. – Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/736744/nine-things-we-learned-2022-s-hottest-free-agent-could-be-a-lion
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Dion Prestia might be Richmond’s most important player
Richmond’s midfield looked at sea against Carlton and St Kilda in Rounds 1 and 3 and things weren’t shaping up well against a Bulldogs side that on paper runs deeper than any on-ball.
While that was probably the area most felt the game would be won or lost, many also forgot what the returning Dion Prestia offers the Tigers’ contested unit.
The 29-year-old picked 30 quality disposals, kicked a goal, and had a massive seven score involvements in his first game back from a hamstring injury - almost certainly attracting Brownlow votes for his performance.
Prestia gives the Tigers much-needed grunt at the stoppage and he may be the missing link between their best and worst footy – which we’ve seen close to both of this year.
If the inside bull stays fit, expect Richmond to win comfortably more games than they lose – that’s how critical he is to his side’s success.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/10/the-six-things-we-learned-from-round-41/
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Bet the umpires give votes to the doggies players with 35+ rather than dion who was better than all.
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Premiership Tiger Dion Prestia has revealed how he's overcome his nagging hamstring problems.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1514164710266261504
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Let’s all hope this is true but I dunno if I’d be making this claim 1 week after returning from a hamstring injury.
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Prestia press conference:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1103326/prestia-press-conference
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Do i have it right hes claiming meditation is the key to stop his body breaking down !!!!!!. History says his body will continue to break down and no amount of wishful thinking will prevent that.
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I thought he was taking the pee
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He is just one player but the question really is can we win against in form better sides without him and it seems the answer is no.
The reliability on one player is wrong.
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He is just one player but the question really is can we win against in form better sides without him and it seems the answer is no.
The reliability on one player is wrong.
If say the reliance on his has increased without Dusty and Lambert.
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Do i have it right hes claiming meditation is the key to stop his body breaking down !!!!!!. History says his body will continue to break down and no amount of wishful thinking will prevent that.
Nope you don't have it right. He said the meditation helped him get though the nerves during the week. And even if he did think it helped then so be it. If it works for him in his mind then it works full stop.
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The Tigers did lose injury-prone Dion Prestia to a worrying lower leg issue, subbing him out at three-quarter time, although Hardwick wasn’t clear on the severity.
"Prestia has some Achilles and soleus tightness as well," he said.
"He reported it at half-time. He's so important we nearly subbed him then and there, but he wanted to give it one more go. It was just getting sorer."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/750420/-so-many-areas-to-fix-simpson-predicts-pain-ahead-for-eagles)
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THE PLAYER AT ALL 18 CLUBS WHO WILL BE LIKE A NEW RECRUIT IN THE SECOND HALF OF 2022
Andrew Slevison
SEN
11 May 2022
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Dion Prestia
While Dion Prestia has already played five games this season, the Tigers will be praying for some continuity.
He most recently graced the field in Round 7 before missing last weekend’s win over Collingwood with illness.
So he doesn’t quite fit the exact brief of this article, but with the Tigers sporting a fairly clean bill of health, he is the one they want out there consistently.
Soft tissue injuries have plagued him in recent years and he just never seems to get a fair run at it.
When up and going, Prestia is one of Richmond’s most important players and a consistent contribution in the second half of the season could have a significant say in what his side ends up this year.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/11/the-player-at-all-18-clubs-who-will-be-like-a-new-recruit-in-the-second-half/
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Massive game today from Dion :clapping. Showed again how much we miss him in the guts when he's not there.
28 disposals (14k, 14h, 9c, 19u, 75% eff.)
5 marks
2 tackles
8 clearances ... ( 4 centre clearances )
7 inside 50s
510 metres gained
11 score involvements
1 goal assist
81% time on ground
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A win and dion getting through the game injury free :bow
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Just so important for us.
Brilliant today
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“It was nice having a week off and not be injured or anything like that, just actually have a rest,” Prestia told ‘Richmond Media’ post-game.
“I was excited to come back in, I felt fresh during the week . . .
“My body feels really good, finally, and hopefully I can just continue on.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1128523/prestia-a-master-of-the-seamless-return
:pray
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A great performance from Dion Prestia to take home the 2022 Yiooken Award (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f31f.png)
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https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1527996000799170566
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Up there with our most important players. Or possibly our outright MOST important.
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Our No.1 midfielder now days. 33 disposals and 13 clearances including 6 centre clearances :o. Showed last night how much we missed him in round 1 when he went off at 1/4 time in that game. Just got to hope his body holds together [touchwood] :pray.
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Only injuries are stopping him from getting more individual accolades. Absolute gun.
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Tigers not done yet: In-form midfielder sees parallels with flag-winning years
Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia is enjoying a fine run of form after his troubles with injury
By AAP
17 June 2022
IN CAREER-BEST form amid his best injury run in years, Richmond gun Dion Prestia believes the Tigers are again on the verge of something special.
Prestia starred with 33 disposals, 19 contested possessions and 13 clearances as the Tigers fought past Carlton on Thursday night to seal their sixth win in seven matches and leap into the top eight.
The 29-year-old has been central to Richmond's form, averaging nearly 26 disposals per game.
"Yeah, I think so (it's career-best form). It's probably one of the fittest I've been," he said.
"Obviously 2019 I had some good games but in the last few years I feel like I'm playing some really good footy and I just try to stay consistent."
Crucially, Prestia has stayed fit for most of the 2022 campaign after two injury-filled seasons.
His nine games already matches his total appearances in each of the 2020 and 2021 campaigns.
He credited the work he and Richmond's medical staff had put into strengthening his legs in pre-season and after a hamstring injury suffered in round one.
"I feel like I'm in pretty good form at the moment and just being able to consistently play games and consistently train has really put me in good stead," he said.
"We implemented a few things after round one when I got injured. So it's working.
"I feel like we've got something that's really working for myself, at least.
"So yeah, really confident I can run out games. I'm playing more game time than I probably ever have in the last few weeks as well. So confident in everything and how it's going."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/781211/tigers-not-done-yet-in-form-midfielder-sees-parallels-with-flag-winning-years
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no Prestia no Richmond i think
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no Prestia no Richmond i think
I concur
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Didn't see the alleged cheap shot he gave Cripps but I loved how sooky Cripps got and how absolutely unconcerned meatball was when Cripps tried to push him around haha.
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Didn't see the alleged cheap shot he gave Cripps but I loved how sooky Cripps got and how absolutely unconcerned meatball was when Cripps tried to push him around haha.
Just a weekly occurrence
Was in the wet and Dion was really mov8ng him forward to position, yes it was a push but he would never have intended to push him into the knee or foot of Walsh (I think)
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Didn't see the alleged cheap shot he gave Cripps but I loved how sooky Cripps got and how absolutely unconcerned meatball was when Cripps tried to push him around haha.
Just a weekly occurrence
Was in the wet and Dion was really mov8ng him forward to position, yes it was a push but he would never have intended to push him into the knee or foot of Walsh (I think)
Wouldn't he, though? Haha
Sometimes I think Dion gets a little nasty and I love it.
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no Prestia no Richmond i think
I concur
I also Reece
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Dion Prestia's grunt is key to Richmond's hopes
If the Tigers were to knock off Carlton on Thursday evening, they had to match the Blues' effort at the coalface. That's exactly what the Tigers did from the off and it was led in part by Dion Prestia who was sensational all evening at stoppages. In Richmond's round one loss to the Blues, Prestia hurt his hamstring, which was a significant blow to the midfield stocks against the plethora of Carlton midfield stars who ran all over them on the night. However, on this occasion, the three-time premiership star was available for the entirety of the game and his inclusion paid major dividends. Prestia was everywhere, accumulating 33 disposals (19 contested) and winning a whopping game-high 13 clearances - which was eight more than any of Carlton's midfielders. - Nick D'Urbano
https://www.afl.com.au/news/782199/six-things-we-learned-there-s-a-new-contender-for-max-s-crown
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Dion Prestia might be Richmond’s most important player
Richmond’s midfield bull Dion Prestia was immense on Thursday night against Carlton.
Against a Blues midfield that’s been hailed all year as one of the competition’s best, Prestia wrestled control on the inside for his side picking up 13 clearances to give Richmond a 41-28 win in that area.
With his influence early on helping the Tigers to a five-goal lead, Prestia was probably the difference in a game that tightened up late.
Although Dustin Martin is Richmond’s best player, Prestia’s inside ball-winning ability for a side that doesn’t typically dominate in that area might make him the player the Tigers can ill-afford to lose on the road into finals.
We know he’s had troubles with his body in recent years, but if the 29-year-old stays fit, there’s no ceiling on where this side can go in 2022. - Lachlan Geleit
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/19/the-six-things-we-learned-from-round-14-1/
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THE TIGER “WE DON’T TALK ABOUT ENOUGH”
By Alex Zaia
SEN
23 June 2022
Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia is flying under the radar, according to Garry Lyon.
Prestia underlined his importance to the Tigers with a superb display in last week’s win over Carlton finishing with 33 disposals, 19 contested possessions and 13 clearances.
The 29-year-old, who has missed a lot of football over the past three years due to soft tissue injuries, is an irreplaceable cog in Richmond’s midfield when fit.
Lyon thinks the triple-premiership Tiger is a player that doesn’t get spoken about enough.
Lyon said on SEN Breakfast: “The other player we don’t talk about enough is Dion Prestia.”
Tim Watson replied: “He was outstanding again last week too.”
Lyon added: “I put my hand up … I’ve known and appreciated how good a footy player he’s been.
“But when he’s going, how good is he?”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/22/the-tiger-we-dont-talk-about-enough-and-the-star-having-a-huge-impact/
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Dimma was asked post-game how Prestia was feeling.
Hardwick: "Dion is up and about [i.e. physically upright] so he's okay at this stage. Let the doctors worry about it. Not my place to comment on the incident. You guys will do enough."
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Body was like jelly for a decent period after. Looked horrible.
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The trainers were brilliant in showing care for him. But the decision to not call for a stretcher is a really poor one.
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I will now watch the replay as I had only eyes for Dion being at the ground, but did any of our players slam that idiot of a thing Stewart at this time? Let’s not forget what they did to Nick V in the grand final.
Enough is enough.
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The trainers were brilliant in showing care for him. But the decision to not call for a stretcher is a really poor one.
Agree - stupid decision
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Looking at the vision Stewart wasn’t even watching the ball, eyes only on the man, head high, intentional, 4 weeks at least, that is a glaring reason why there should be a red card system
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The Umps could have stopped the play but didn't :thumbsdown.
Barrett just said the umpires do have the discretionary power to stop the play. He added the AFL will be investigating why play was allowed to continue up to Stengle's goal.
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The Umps could have stopped the play but didn't :thumbsdown.
Barrett just said the umpires do have the discretionary power to stop the play. He added the AFL will be investigating why play was allowed to continue up to Stengle's goal.
Well I stand corrected
I have always been told that play cannot stop unless a stretcher is called of of the ball is within a certain vicinity
And let's be honest that is the only thing the AFL should be investigating after last night's shambolic umpiring
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Maybe the AFL will come out with a statement citing common sense should have been applied….
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I will now watch the replay as I had only eyes for Dion being at the ground, but did any of our players slam that idiot of a thing Stewart at this time? Let’s not forget what they did to Nick V in the grand final.
Enough is enough.
Spot on with this. Had a heated chat with my brother on way home. Where was an all in brawl? Same with when Cameron was mounting Pickett who flew the flag for when Cameron decked Bolton. Was very happy with how we responded play wise but ge any danger of someone getting in Stewarts face.
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I don't think our players saw it. That's how late and off the ball the thuggish hit was.
I wasn't at the ground but I've read the hit wasn't replayed on the scoreboard. IIRC incidents involving an on ground report aren't allowed to be replayed on the scoreboard. I'd doubt our players really knew actually what happened until after the game.
Dimma's not so subtle post-game comment "we'll look forward to hopefully meeting them again" (in the finals) makes me think we'll leave our revenge for next time as a dish best served cold and hopefully when there's no tomorrow and it matters more to just beat those head hunting thugs when it hurts them the most. No point getting rubbed out retaliating in round 15 and only hurting ourselves in the coming weeks with healthy players sitting in the stands.
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No Dion no Tiges well not this week they really did well with out him.
Geez i wish it was the 80's still. Rather than Stewart i woukld have gone thru Stengle and a soft prick like Smith just to let em know what goes around comes around.
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"Tigers will know more about Prestia's outlook tomorrow after he checked in for scans".
0:43 min mark: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1541345826160656384
ps. Dangerfield despite being president of the AFLPA is hardly a neutral voice in this matter by the way.
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Jon Ralph on the Couch tonight:
The AFL say the game wasn't stopped because there was no stoppage in the play to stop it.
Ralph added they could have stopped it from the moment Prestia was hit.
Balmey told Ralph the Club should have called the stretcher to stop the play so yeah it can be said it was on us. It would have cost Prestia 20 mins on the bench but he wasn't coming back on anyway.
Jonathan Brown said it shouldn't be on a club to stop the play.
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Clubs should get together and start a tradition where the ball is kicked out of bounds to stop play in similar situations, a la soccer. It's utterly ridiculous that there needs to be a stop in play to halt the game.
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Totally agree the game should have been stopped. To not stop the game in such circumstances is grossly negligent.
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‘Cut the crap’: Great fumes after AFL ticks off play continuing over ‘unconscious’ Tiger Dion Prestia
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 27th, 2022 7:09 pm
Melbourne great Garry Lyon was left baffled by the AFL’s explanation regarding play continuing when Richmond’s Dion Prestia was concussed against Geelong.
The Tigers midfielder was collected by Cats defender Tom Stewart - in a bump likely to earn the All-Australian a month-long ban - but play continued for another two minutes as Prestia was helped off the field.
As Lyon flagged on Fox Footy’s On the Couch, that saw being kicked “over Prestia’s head” even as trainers attended to the concussed player.
“When we have a look at this sequence ... the trainer puts his hand up straight away. Play in the vicinity,” Lyon said.
“One of them is trying to work out (what’s happening), Tom Hawkins goes across (to Prestia), the play is right there. Stop it right there. You’ve still got players in the area. Ball goes back (over him).
“How they can say that’s not in danger - it’s gone over his (Prestia’s) head! We’re not making light of this, it goes over his head again. We’ve got a Richmond player and a Geelong player there again. So why didn’t they stop the game?”
As St Kilda champion Nick Riewoldt pointed out, Prestia and the trainers were in the protected area for a Tigers teammate as play continued.
“The umpire’s right there telling them to get out of the protected area. Guess what, he can’t, he’s unconscious!” Riewoldt said.
Herald Sun AFL reporter Jon Ralph said the league had ticked off the way the umpires handled the situation.
“They’ve said the umpires department is comfortable with how it played out, and that the ball moved away from the stoppage,” Ralph said on On the Couch.
Lyon interrupted to add: “No it didn’t. No it didn’t.”
Ralph continued: “They say there wasn’t a stoppage that would’ve allowed for the game to be stopped.
“That’s the AFL’s response, I thought, let’s cut the crap. Let’s go to (Richmond senior club advisor) Neil Balme.
“He says you’re right, the club was thinking about the player rather than the big picture. In hindsight we absolutely should’ve taken the stretcher out, which would’ve officially stopped the game. 20 minutes off for Prestia who was never coming back anyway.
“So he says that’s probably on us (Richmond), but all of us believe they should’ve stopped it.”
But Lyon suggested it shouldn’t be up to the club involved to work around the rules to force a stoppage of play.
And he pointed out the lack of stoppage meant Richmond was down a man, through no fault of their own, which directly led to a Geelong goal.
“Balmey’s a pragmatic, sensible man who says yeah, it’s our fault,” Lyon said.
“To try and deny culpability - the other issue is, and this is why Richmond would be reviewing it I would imagine, is for two minutes it’s 17 v 18.
“We have a look at the play here. Dion Prestia who’s obviously a midfielder, we see him being walked off the ground, but have a look through the middle of the ground - Joel Selwood was his nominal opponent (and he’s free).
“And then they’re out everywhere (leading to the Stengle goal), in a game decided by less than a goal.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-dion-prestia-concussion-tom-stewart-play-continues-richmond-vs-geelong-reaction-video-on-the-couch/news-story/575eac5482f6543d2905e144bca6cb3c
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"Tigers will know more about Prestia's outlook tomorrow after he checked in for scans".
0:43 min mark: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1541345826160656384
ps. Dangerfield despite being president of the AFLPA is hardly a neutral voice in this matter by the way.
Dangerfield thinks it will be “yesterday’s news” in a few days. Got news for him. We won’t forget.
https://twitter.com/WolfChildsBlues/status/1541342681523421184
:yep
The Tiger Army has a long memory.
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I'm not sure which thing has me more steamed up - Prestia getting KO'd in such a callous way, or the umpire allowing play to continue all over the top of him without once even thinking of the injured player (and trainers in the area). To top it off Geebung score a goal while we are a man down. Its hard to connect the dots & say that that goal was the difference in the match (because 3 quarters later the game came down to the wire), but I will say having to find one less goal might have been a big help when we were running out of legs late in the game. Of course having our best mid for the whole game would've made some difference too.
That is the main reason why Geebung should lose their player for at least 6 weeks! Let it affect them as much as this affected us! :pray
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Herald Sun AFL reporter Jon Ralph said the league had ticked off the way the umpires handled the situation.
“They’ve said the umpires department is comfortable with how it played out, and that the ball moved away from the stoppage,” Ralph said on On the Couch.
Lyon interrupted to add: “No it didn’t. No it didn’t.”
Ralph continued: “They say there wasn’t a stoppage that would’ve allowed for the game to be stopped.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-dion-prestia-concussion-tom-stewart-play-continues-richmond-vs-geelong-reaction-video-on-the-couch/news-story/575eac5482f6543d2905e144bca6cb3c
Oh course the AFL ticked it off. When have they not when it comes to Richmond ::).
Who cares if it compromised player and staff safety and meant a team was playing a man down for 3 minutes while benefitting the side that dished out the thug act in the first place :thumbsdown.
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But if we call for a stretcher they have to stop the game don’t they?
So maybe our own fault??
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Prestia had scans on Monday and was back at Punt Road, with Tigers sources insisting he was “fine”.
The medical report supplied by the Tigers to the tribunal panel could shape the length of Stewart’s suspension.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/it-still-sits-in-my-gut-sorry-stewart-urged-to-strike-a-deal-over-prestia-bump-20220627-p5awzr.html)
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Mitch Cleary says Richmond docs have told him Prestia has no structural damage to his face.
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=1014344
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AFL’S PRESTIA CALL BLASTED AS “BLATANTLY WRONG”
By Seb Mottram
SEN
28 June 2022
The AFL has ticked off the umpires’ handling of Dion Prestia’s concussion on Saturday afternoon.
Play continued for a further two minutes after Prestia was collected by Tom Stewart, with the Richmond star struggling to get to his feet and leaning on trainers in confronting scenes.
The Tigers did not call for the stretcher – senior advisor Neil Balme later admitting to Fox Footy that was a mistake – and the umpires did not stop play, with the ball coming close to Prestia and the club doctors in the following plays.
SEN Breakfast co-hosts Garry Lyon and Tim Watson couldn’t believe the AFL didn’t admit their fault.
Lyon said: “This is what annoys me when AFL umpires come out and say, ‘no, we’ve ticked the box on Prestia, there was no danger, we didn’t need to stop the game’, that’s just blatantly wrong.
“Why couldn’t they own up and say, ‘yeah, we got that wrong’.
“They’ve got a blatant inability to say, ‘we got that wrong’.”
Watson added: “At the time… you’re thinking, ‘why isn’t there a common-sense rule being applied here’.
“You’ve got a bloke there who’s in the hands of the trainer… I know (Richmond) took a little bit of heat and said it was (their) fault, but they were down a player, it wasn't to their advantage.”
Kane Cornes shared a slightly different view on SEN’s Whateley, suggesting Richmond should also accept some fault.
If the Tigers had called for the stretcher then Prestia would have been ruled out for the game, although Balme admitted it was clear the 29-year-old was never going to return to the field.
“Richmond in hindsight should have called for the stretcher and stopped the game because he was on the other side of the ground,” he said on SEN’S Whateley.
“I reckon if you ask them and their medical team, they also made a mistake.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/28/afls-prestia-call-blasted-as-blatantly-wrong/
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NO FRACTURE
AFL confirms that Richmond has provided a subsequent CT scan to the match-day assessment of Dion Prestia and confirmed that no fracture of the cheek was present.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/789194/follow-it-live-stewart-facing-the-tribunal-now
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Surprise, surprise, Stewart wants his “remorse” considered. It’s going to be 3 weeks. Take it to the bank.
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Jack Riewoldt on AFL360 last night said he repeatedly asked the umpires to stop the game but they just ignored him.
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‘Really didn’t like that’: Tigers gun recounts ‘stop the game’ pleas after star teammate’s concussion
David Zita
Fox Sports
June 28th, 2022 9:47 pm
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt believes play should’ve been stopped more quickly in the aftermath of Dion Prestia’s concussion during Saturday’s blockbuster against Geelong.
As medical staff convened around Prestia, play continued to resume, with the Fox Footy commentary team baffled at the continuation, which eventually resulted in a goal to Cats forward Tyson Stengle.
“I was screaming at the umpires, I think there was probably a few of us saying ‘stop the game’ because clearly he was knocked out,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.
“I’m a bit flat about the minute-and-a-half of play after this; there were multiple times to stop the game. Blokes are kicking the ball over the top of him and the doctors. I thought that could’ve been handled a lot better.
“It’s the duty of care ... you’ve got three medical people looking over a player that’s knocked out in the vicinity of play in the protected zone - it could’ve nearly been 50 metres, he was in the protected zone - and we continued to play that game.
“From a safety point of view I really didn’t like that.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-tom-stewart-hit-dion-prestia-concussion-why-didnt-umpires-stop-the-game-jack-riewoldt-interview-video-richmond-vs-geelong/news-story/eea1bd5fe9b9eddc1010b22196adb3ba
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From Peter Burge's injury update:
Dion Prestia, concussion
"Dion's progressing well. He obviously pulled up not 100 per cent the day after the game, and the doctor has assessed him and he's now going into that 12-day concussion protocol, which is quite progressive. So, we're preparing him for the Gold Coast game next week. He'll move into some lighter exercise during the rest of this week and then progress into some non-contact training early next week. By the end of that week, we'll be able to move into that final stage of contact hopefully leading into the Gold Coast game. We feel pretty confident that he'll be right to play in that game in a fortnight."
Source: RFC website. (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1159499/pilot-medical-update-round-16-2022)
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Jack Riewoldt on AFL360 last night said he repeatedly asked the umpires to stop the game but they just ignored him.
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‘Really didn’t like that’: Tigers gun recounts ‘stop the game’ pleas after star teammate’s concussion
David Zita
Fox Sports
June 28th, 2022 9:47 pm
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt believes play should’ve been stopped more quickly in the aftermath of Dion Prestia’s concussion during Saturday’s blockbuster against Geelong.
As medical staff convened around Prestia, play continued to resume, with the Fox Footy commentary team baffled at the continuation, which eventually resulted in a goal to Cats forward Tyson Stengle.
“I was screaming at the umpires, I think there was probably a few of us saying ‘stop the game’ because clearly he was knocked out,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.
“I’m a bit flat about the minute-and-a-half of play after this; there were multiple times to stop the game. Blokes are kicking the ball over the top of him and the doctors. I thought that could’ve been handled a lot better.
“It’s the duty of care ... you’ve got three medical people looking over a player that’s knocked out in the vicinity of play in the protected zone - it could’ve nearly been 50 metres, he was in the protected zone - and we continued to play that game.
“From a safety point of view I really didn’t like that.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-tom-stewart-hit-dion-prestia-concussion-why-didnt-umpires-stop-the-game-jack-riewoldt-interview-video-richmond-vs-geelong/news-story/eea1bd5fe9b9eddc1010b22196adb3ba
Well said Jack. It was disgraceful and ridiculous umpiring. A safety risk as well as blatantly unfair to have one team a man down for so long that it gifts the perpetrator's side a bonus goal in a game decided by less than a kick :thumbsdown.
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Jack Riewoldt on AFL360 last night said he repeatedly asked the umpires to stop the game but they just ignored him.
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‘Really didn’t like that’: Tigers gun recounts ‘stop the game’ pleas after star teammate’s concussion
David Zita
Fox Sports
June 28th, 2022 9:47 pm
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt believes play should’ve been stopped more quickly in the aftermath of Dion Prestia’s concussion during Saturday’s blockbuster against Geelong.
As medical staff convened around Prestia, play continued to resume, with the Fox Footy commentary team baffled at the continuation, which eventually resulted in a goal to Cats forward Tyson Stengle.
“I was screaming at the umpires, I think there was probably a few of us saying ‘stop the game’ because clearly he was knocked out,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.
“I’m a bit flat about the minute-and-a-half of play after this; there were multiple times to stop the game. Blokes are kicking the ball over the top of him and the doctors. I thought that could’ve been handled a lot better.
“It’s the duty of care ... you’ve got three medical people looking over a player that’s knocked out in the vicinity of play in the protected zone - it could’ve nearly been 50 metres, he was in the protected zone - and we continued to play that game.
“From a safety point of view I really didn’t like that.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-tom-stewart-hit-dion-prestia-concussion-why-didnt-umpires-stop-the-game-jack-riewoldt-interview-video-richmond-vs-geelong/news-story/eea1bd5fe9b9eddc1010b22196adb3ba
Well said Jack. It was disgraceful and ridiculous umpiring. A safety risk as well as blatantly unfair to have one team a man down for so long that it gifts the perpetrator's side a bonus goal in a game decided by less than a kick :thumbsdown.
A shame circus of a organisation let's it's ego get in the way from common sense and protects the umpires those 3 should have been dropped this week no accountability.
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AFL dodges response over ‘ridiculous’ Dion Prestia moment slammed by Richmond legend Matthew Richardson
League headquarter has chosen to let slide a bizarre passage of play that has AFL greats furious.
Harrison Reid
7news
30 June 2022
The AFL has refused to comment whether play should have been stopped while Dion Prestia was dazed and concussed on the ground during the Tigers’ thriller with the Cats on Saturday.
Tom Stewart was sent directly to the tribunal for a sickening hit that floored Prestia and has accepted his four-game ban.
While Prestia is believed to be recovering well, he was in serious trouble immediately after the hit and struggled to find his feet as trainers rushed in.
The footage that followed was hard to watch as the umpires made the bizarre decision to let play continue around Prestia, who was seeing stars.
When asked by 7NEWS.com.au why play wasn’t stopped, or if it was the correct decision to let play continue, an AFL spokesperson said the league was choosing not to comment.
Richmond legend Matthew Richardson told 7NEWS.com.au he couldn’t believe that play wasn’t stopped in the extreme circumstances.
“That was just ridiculous,” he said.
“Let’s be honest here, how can you have play going on when a player is distressed on the ground like that? We’ve got to have some common sense there – mainly for Dion Prestia and his health and well-being.”
The umpires’ first opportunity to stop play came just seconds after the hit, with Jack Graham being awarded a free kick just metres from Prestia.
But play wasn’t stopped and the ball went over Prestia’s head twice as subsequent opportunities to stop play came when marks were taken by Dylan Grimes and Tom Hawkins, all within kicking distance of Prestia who was yet to find his feet.
Ricahrdson said the risk to Prestia’s safety was clearly the main concern, but another element was the almost two minutes during which Geelong had one extra active player on the ground - from the moment Prestia was hit to when Cats forward Tyson Stengle made the Tigers pay with a crucial goal.
“It penalised Richmond,” Richardson told 7NEWS.com.au.
“They were playing 17 on 18 for what felt like a couple of minutes, and Tyson Stengle kicks a goal while Prestia’s lying on the ground.
“Play had to be stopped there – that’s just ridiculous that Richmond could be penalised like that.
“If we can’t have a game where the umpire can blow the whistle and say, ‘We have to stop the game’ when the ball is still near a guy in the state that Prestia was in – there is no common sense in that.”
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-dodges-response-over-ridiculous-dion-prestia-moment-slammed-by-richmond-legend-matthew-richardson--c-7341249
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Funny how common sense umpiring is currently not in vogue
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Common sense ask Brad Scott what happened to Mr tuff guy.
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What problem does Dion have with common sense? Or rather, the other way around ... common sense seems to have a massive problem with Dion!
Firstly, Dion is denied a chance to kick the winning goal because common sense said that the Swans can kick the ball into the crowd after the siren even though Dion had been awarded a free kick on the wing. Common sense seems to have had the last laugh that day.
Then secondly, Dion is knocked senseless by a 'nice guy' running past the ball. But common sense pops in to convince the umpire there was nothing to see here, no free kick paid & while Dion is struggling to stand up the umpire thought it was common sense to let the game go on, even though the ball landed next to the semi-conscious Dion. Even when the ball was kicked over Dion's spinning head common sense flapped his hands & called 'play on'! Common sense even waited patiently for Geelong to kick a goal before letting Dion stagger off the ground!
Now Dion, if you ever want to cross the road be really careful, ok. Out there somewhere is a truck with a rego plate that says COMMON SENSE! Or a tram (streetcar) named COMMON SENSE. Either way, its odds on they are gunning for you! :o
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:
IF ...
the matches missed by Dion Prestia due to the Tom Stewart hit cause him to fall short of winning a second Tigers' best and fairest award ...
THEN ...
that lost status and money (there are always contractual cash incentives attached to winning such awards) will be added to the toll of that very heavy concussion.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/789338/if-only-18-months-ago-some-at-the-club-wanted-the-coach-gone-then
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Just how important is Dion Prestia to Richmond?
Much has been said of Tom Stewart’s upcoming absence, but the Tigers will lose an equally important part of their system.
Anthony Talliopoulos
zerohanger.com
July 2, 2022
Dion Prestia's gruesome concussion in the Tigers' clash against the Cats on Saturday has been greatly publicised over the past week.
As a result of his head-high bump on Prestia, superstar defender Tom Stewart was given a four-week suspension.
Since the bump, there has been much speculation about what would have occurred if he had decided not to bump.
Would Tyson Stengle have kicked the goal immediately after in a game decided by under a goal? Would Prestia have made the difference in the game? Did that game cost Richmond a top-four spot?
Unfortunately for such questions, we will never be able to truly know what would have happened in the game as there are literally thousands of moments that make up all four quarters.
For all we know, one little tap in the middle of the game made all the difference in the match.
However, one thing that is more quantifiable is what sort of impact Dion Prestia has on a game of football.
Since arriving at the club in 2017, the man they call the 'human meatball' has gone on to win three premierships and a Jack Dyer Medal for the Tigers.
DION PRESTIA
Midfield
Richmond
2022 SEASON AVG
23.7 Disposals
2.7 Tackles
5.2 Clearances
The star midfielder has played 11 games thus far in 2022, three of which he left early with injury.
In the nine games where Prestia has played at least a half of football, Prestia has helped Richmond to six wins.
Without Prestia, the Tigers have only won two of their five matches.
Whilst this does give a decent indication of Prestia's importance, this sample size simply isn't big enough to make any conclusions.
Looking further into the numbers, last year the Tigers won 71.4% of their games with Prestia playing a full game and only 28.6% of their games without him.
Whilst there are so many other factors that affect performance, those numbers are absolutely absurd.
Without Prestia, Richmond is a very poor clearance side, finishing 16th in clearances in 2021 and sitting in 16th currently.
However, with Prestia, the Tigers average 9.28 more clearances a game. Now, these are not all accredited to him but the fact that he can free up other stoppage players makes him a massive player for Hardwick's side.
The ex-Sun embodies Dimma's game style of constantly moving the ball forward in a 'surge' like manner.
His ability to get clearances and put pressure on opposition midfielders is of extreme importance for the Yellow and Black.
Without getting the ball forward, the Tigers cannot apply pressure and without pressure, their backline is unable to peel off and intercept the ball.
It is also worth noting that Prestia hasn't dropped below 25 disposals for matches he has been healthy in this year.
This delineates that whilst the Jack Dyer medallist is damaging on the inside, he can also hurt you on the outside.
Dimma has also gone into the effort of praising Prestia's off-field influence on the club on previous occasions.
Prestia kickstarts their game and thus is one of their most pivotal players, if not their most pivotal.
As Hardwick said after Prestia's Yiooken Medal in 2021... "He is just so important to the way (they) play."
https://www.zerohanger.com/just-how-important-is-dion-prestia-to-richmond-122701/
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32 possies (23 contested) and a whopping 10 clearances for Meatball tonight :clapping.
32 disposals (16k, 16h, 23c, 9u, 53.1% eff.)
2 marks
5 tackles (2 F50 tackles)
10 clearances
4 centre clearances
5 inside 50s
4 intercepts
476 metres gained
8 score involvements
1 goal assist
84% time on ground
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Our most important player. Stay healthy please meatball.
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BOG
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BOG
Agree. He was brilliant in the contest and a clearance machine
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Beast
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Prestia drew plenty of praise post-match from Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
“He’s just crucial to have on the park. Good players don’t grow on trees, especially ones that can transition the way Dion does, and the way he goes about his footy,” Hardwick said in his press conference.
“His ability to bring others into the game is really important.
“We get to see it every week and it’s great to see 60,000 people here today to witness what a great player he is and what a significant contributor he’s been to our footy club since he got here.
“We value him highly in a lot of aspects of his game. . . I think probably outside of our four walls, so to speak, he’s regarded, but he’s not as highly regarded as what we see . . .
“He’s a Best and Fairest winner in a premiership year (2019) and if you think about it, he’s had significant injury over the last couple (of years), but on average, he probably wins those Best and Fairests if he had have played.
“So, we know how good a player he is and it’s important, I think, people are starting to understand what value this guy brings to our footy club.”
The triple Tiger premiership star dominated throughout the four quarters, finishing the match with 30 disposals, 16 contested possessions, a game-high 11 clearances, game-high five centre clearances, game-high six stoppage clearances, two goals, seven score involvements, four tackles and 436 metres gained.
This season, Prestia is averaging 25.2 disposals, 11.7 contested possessions, 6.0 clearances, 3.8 inside-50s, 6.0 score involvements, 3.3 marks, 3.1 tackles and 382.4 metres gained per game.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1199696/prestia-the-personification-of-poise-and-precision
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Probably equal most important player with Lynch. Our record when Prestia was injured was woeful.
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Our win/loss record with and without Prestia.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/players/PrestiaWinLossRecord.png)
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RFC twitter says it's a hammy.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbkGKVjXgAA290r?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1565287101951668224
https://twitter.com/abcsport/status/1565289124898246657
:(
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No ice. What is going on.
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We aren’t going anywhere without this bloke.
Biggest loss in our team.
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Abby Holmes on 7 says the Club told her it's a "bad hammy".
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FFS can someone condition this bloke to a point where he plays each week.
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FFS can someone condition this bloke to a point where he plays each week.
Will never happen unfortunately
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FFS can someone condition this bloke to a point where he plays each week.
TBH we got 18 games out of him this year which was pretty good considering what he's been thru.
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The unfortunate thing is that when Dion is out there’s nobody who can fill that gap .. not yet anyway
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Poor Dion I feel for him.
Hopefully Taranto takes the pressure off a bit. And Sonsie with more maturing.
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…..But what about RCD? :lol :rollin
The Cotchin role apparently. :help
If Ross can consistently get games ahead of him there’s not much hope for the guy with two Moms.
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…..But what about RCD? :lol :rollin
The Cotchin role apparently. :help
If Ross can consistently get games ahead of him there’s not much hope for the guy with two Moms.
Ross is miles ahead of RCD when he went back to vfl always performed.
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…..But what about RCD? :lol :rollin
The Cotchin role apparently. :help
If Ross can consistently get games ahead of him there’s not much hope for the guy with two Moms.
Why yet again the comment comment about "two Mums" ? You seem to have a borderline obsession with it, have since he got drafted
What has that got to do with his football ability :huh
If you haven't worked out why Ross has been given games or not dropped when he's played poorly by n0w you never will
I could say a lot more but won't >:(
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Happy 30th birthday, Dion! :birthday
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe0fFhracAEkybA?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1579955290191319040
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…..But what about RCD? :lol :rollin
The Cotchin role apparently. :help
If Ross can consistently get games ahead of him there’s not much hope for the guy with two Moms.
Why yet again the comment comment about "two Mums" ? You seem to have a borderline obsession with it, have since he got drafted
What has that got to do with his football ability :huh
If you haven't worked out why Ross has been given games or not dropped when he's played poorly by n0w you never will
I could say a lot more but won't >:(
:lol
I just read this reply
WP why are you perplexed about the fact that this kid has two Mums?
We were told about it by the media several times before and after he was drafted.
It sounds like you don’t want to celebrate the fact, not very tolerant of you that you don’t want to even mention it.
We can’t celebrate anything now nor can we banter or give someone a nickname?
I was WOG playing footy as a junior then I when WOG became trendy I was then called Skeg because I used to surf. It was a name that celebrates you as a person because it’s part of your life.
Nicknames are hateful violence now :rollin
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
Really orphanages now? :help.
Are YOU trying to be funny?
In this case I wasn’t trying to be funny as I was just asking WP a question and making a point after just reading the reply to me.
You must be a real ball of fun at parties. :rollin
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I think the expression is “trolling”. Sooooo 2016….
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
If Leslie Nielsen set it on fire accidentally, I would still laugh. That man knew a good beaver when he saw one. Talking about fires, this thread's heating up; so, like a dwarf using a urinal, I'm going to have to stay on my toes.
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
If Leslie Nielsen set it on fire accidentally, I would still laugh. That man knew a good beaver when he saw one. Talking about fires, this thread's heating up; so, like a dwarf using a urinal, I'm going to have to stay on my toes.
:lol :rollin
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
Really orphanages now? :help.
Are YOU trying to be funny?
In this case I wasn’t trying to be funny as I was just asking WP a question and making a point after just reading the reply to me.
You must be a real ball of fun at parties. :rollin
I don't go to parties with your kind mate.
You're not funny, you're just trying to wind up WP for calling you out on your weird fixation on RCD having gay parents. It's transparent, it's not remotely funny and it's just pee weak trolling.
I love a good wind up and I do it with some tact. Learn from me mate.
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You're as funny as a burning orphanage
Really orphanages now? :help.
Are YOU trying to be funny?
In this case I wasn’t trying to be funny as I was just asking WP a question and making a point after just reading the reply to me.
You must be a real ball of fun at parties. :rollin
I don't go to parties with your kind mate.
You're not funny, you're just trying to wind up WP for calling you out on your weird fixation on RCD having gay parents. It's transparent, it's not remotely funny and it's just pee weak trolling.
I love a good wind up and I do it with some tact. Learn from me mate.
I like a good joke and I don’t take myself too seriously but like I said I wasn’t trying to be funny I was just making a point about RCD taking over from Cotchin.
WP was the one going on about me saying he’s got two Mums as we were told many times by the media when he was drafted. I personally don’t see a problem with using it as his nickname I didn’t even come up with it but I thought it was apt. For some reason it’s not PC to use nicknames when someone has two Mums. :help
I personally don’t rate RCD and has nothing to do with any of his mums.
I don’t think he has what it takes. Hopefully he proves me wrong and I’ll be the first to say I was wrong
There was some talk about him taking over from Cotchin in that role but I can’t see it and I watched him in the VFL in the hope I’d see it too but he’s nowhere near it.
Who knows, maybe he’s a late bloomer and smashes it next year.
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Nothing wrong with nicknames mate and I don't rate him either, but maybe ask the kid yourself if he's all good with that as a nickname. If the answer is no then I wouldn't go around using it.
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'RCD' is a good nickname.
Two mums is just a poke at his personal life and the sexuality of his mothers. I certainly don't think the media can be relied on for having good taste either.
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'RCD' is a good nickname.
Two mums is just a poke at his personal life and the sexuality of his mothers. I certainly don't think the media can be relied on for having good taste either.
Agreed on all front there Andyy although I ended up calling him RCD2’s :lol
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'RCD' is a good nickname.
Two mums is just a poke at his personal life and the sexuality of his mothers. I certainly don't think the media can be relied on for having good taste either.
Agreed on all front there Andyy although I ended up calling him RCD2’s :lol
Lol that's pretty good. Wish he'd stuck around now. :lol
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Wondered why @dionprestia3 is called “the meatball” or “the human meatball?”
Well here is the reason why! :laugh:
Watch here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CmI4J01Br7T/
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Full interview:
This week we catch up with 3x premiership player Dion "the meatball" Prestia and have a really cool chat about life, NFL, footy, off season travel, school, growing up in Craigieburn and more.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1VBXg7mOjbo/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VBXg7mOjbo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VBXg7mOjbo
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2022 with a chance of meatballs
Take a look back at Dion Prestia's highlights in the 2022 AFL season.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1259572/2022-with-a-chance-of-meatballs
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Crucial.
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Rumour he got injured today? Does anybody have an update?
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Rumour he got injured today? Does anybody have an update?
We've got our camp next week I believe. So, we'll find out if there's anything to this if Prestia doesn't go. The report is he left the track early. McQualter said we didn't do centrebounce work in full context today so it's either Dion has done something or it could be that his training workload is being managed as the older blokes don't do every session.
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Yes training camp next week. There's a line about it in the article summarising Dimma's video
Going by previous camps all players go even those injured or on modified programs
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In the rebab group this morning at training.
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No sub for Meatball: Why Prestia remains Richmond’s top Tiger despite off-season additions
The unheralded star is primed for another influential campaign.
Jack Jovanovski
zerohanger.com
February 28, 2023 - 4:51PM
Dion Prestia has long been the overlooked x-factor that unlocks the success of Richmond's midfield group, and that fact will not change in 2023 despite his club's high-profile additions of midfielder pairing Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper during last year's trade period.
After making the southern trek from the Gold Coast Suns at the end of 2016, 'The Human Meatball's immense presence and involvement in the engine room played an extremely integral part in securing the yellow and black's 2017, 2019 and 2020 premierships.
Prestia's profile at the Suns was obvious and has only been further exemplified throughout his Tigers tenure: a contested-ball addict who perpetually puts his body on the line in order to secure possession and forward movement for his side.
Shadowed by peak-performing finals master Dustin Martin and Brownlow medallist Trent Cotchin - not to mention the likes of Shai Bolton in more recent times - in Richmond's daunting midfield brigade during the club's dynasty period, Prestia's works have gone largely unheralded by those outside the four walls of Tigerland.
Across Prestia's 22 games in his 2017 debut campaign, the then-25-year-old's contested possessions (9.5 per game), ground-ball-gets (7.5) and total clearances (4.0) numbers trailed only the mercurial Martin and Cotchin at Punt Road, demonstrating the immediate and crucial impact the ex-Sun had on Richmond's midfield operation.
Over the course of the Tigers' subsequent premiership journey in 2019, throughout which he featured in every match, Prestia was again a major source of propulsion, as his disposal mean of 27.4 rated second-best at the club behind Bachar Houli, while his contested game (11.6 possession per game), ground-ball-gets ( 8.5) and total clearances (5.8 ) led all Tigers.
The hearty bull's influence was plain to see. Maybe Prestia worked better in the shadows of the big-name stars.
In his age-29 season last year, with Martin gradually departing the midfield picture and Cotchin's career continuing to tick toward a close, Prestia trailed only dashing-defender-turned-midfielder Jayden Short in total disposals at Punt Road, and was top-five in a host of statistical categories; including contested possessions, uncontested possessions, score assists, tackles, and inside-50s, as well as leading all Tigers in total clearances.
Prestia's prolific campaign landed him a third-place finish in the Jack Dyer Medal as he polled a career-best 19 Brownlow Medal votes.
However, he is now confronted with a sense of déjà vu, as he is once again inadvertently placed in the background of two midfield stars.
Richmond's list management department orchestrated gargantuan trade deals for former GWS Giants Hopper and Taranto at the conclusion of last season, undeniably restoring the Tigers' flag-contending stature heading into 2023.
The 25-year-old Taranto's career disposals (23.4 per game) and total clearances (4.0) numbers are rated elite among midfielders according to AFL Stats, while Hopper, 26, managed only seven appearances in 2022 but was damaging at stoppages when he did get on the park.
The incessant pre-season hype, whilst warranted due to the duo's irrefutable on-field influence, casts a familiar shade over Prestia, who, health-permitting, is looking poised to deliver another prominent campaign at Punt Road.
Subsequent to Martin and Cotchin occupying more permanent residency in Richmond's forward sector this pre-season, Prestia appears freed up in the middle of the ground alongside the newcomers, ready to assert himself on each contest he encounters; the only way he knows how.
Stalwart Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt was recently heard on SEN radio waves discussing the impact the recent transactions had on liberating Prestia's game, claiming the 30-year-old is exuberant about the new arrivals.
"The two guys we've gone and picked up, Jacob (Hopper) is more of that inside bull, extractor type, which takes a bit of pressure off Dion in that aspect," Riewoldt said.
"Tim (Taranto) has got a little bit of outside class and the ability to spread and run from [the] contest, which once again has probably been lumped on Dion.
"He's probably the happiest man at the footy club, Dion Prestia. The riches he's got around him now to help us in the short term and then for him to go into more of a mentor role for the young kids who we believe are going to be good players for us in the midfield in the coming years."
If Prestia is, as Riewoldt claims, the happiest man at Tigerland, it looks like Meatball's on the menu again in 2023.
https://www.zerohanger.com/no-sub-for-meatball-why-prestia-remains-richmonds-top-tiger-despite-off-season-additions-133545/
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Fox said it's not a shoulder. Prestia has a strained left pec. Should be okay for round 1 they are saying. They showed Dion doing some sprinting drills on the ground during the half-time.
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"It's some type of pec injury. We'll get him scanned during the week, I'm not sure at this stage, hopefully it's not too serious," Richmond assistant coach Andrew McQualter said.
"A thumbs up from Dion is a good sign, if we've got him happy on the bench, it's better than grumpy Dion. Hopefully it's not a bad result."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/879354/dees-tall-duo-sets-up-big-win-another-injury-worry-for-star-tiger)
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Pecs take ages to heal, hope it's minor
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Pec my ass it was a shoulder.
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Pec my ass it was a shoulder.
Make your mind up, ass or shoulder 😂😂
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Pecs take ages to heal, hope it's minor
T J Watt from the Steelers missed 7 weeks with a pec strain early this season almost carbon copy of the Prestia tackle :help
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Pec my ass it was a shoulder.
Make your mind up, ass or shoulder 😂😂
I think it was an invitation to peck him on the ass
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7news last night said the Club will find out today if Dion misses games or not.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1632289969472688129
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Scans have confirmed midfielder Dion Prestia suffered a strained pectoral muscle in Saturday's practice match against Melbourne at Casey.
Prestia remains a chance to play in the Round 1 clash against Carlton at the MCG on March 16.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1279255/prestia-short-injury-update
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Round 1 chance huh?
Wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being a month or more.
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I feel sorry for Dion , it seems if a fly lands on him it’s a few weeks out. He just can’t take a trick
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I feel sorry for Dion , it seems if a fly lands on him it’s a few weeks out. He just can’t take a trick
This. Thought his soft tissue issues were confined to his leg - calf, hammy and quad. Now his upper body is getting into the act too. Such a shame, he’s such a gun but can’t play more then 14-15 games.
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I feel sorry for Dion , it seems if a fly lands on him it’s a few weeks out. He just can’t take a trick
This. Thought his soft tissue issues were confined to his leg - calf, hammy and quad. Now his upper body is getting into the act too. Such a shame, he’s such a gun but can’t play more then 14-15 games.
Well he did manage 19 games last year. ;D
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I feel sorry for Dion , it seems if a fly lands on him it’s a few weeks out. He just can’t take a trick
This. Thought his soft tissue issues were confined to his leg - calf, hammy and quad. Now his upper body is getting into the act too. Such a shame, he’s such a gun but can’t play more then 14-15 games.
Well he did manage 19 games last year. ;D
Played in 18 during the H&A season and was subbed out in 3 of them although 1 was due to concussion rather than a soft tissue injury. Then was also subbed out in the elimination final through injury.
Also only topped 15 games in 2 of the previous 7 seasons before that.
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Hmm played 25 games in 2019 and 22 in 2017!!! look just having a bit of fun. Soft tissue has always been a bit of a problem we agree.
But three of the 6 years we have had him he has played 19, 22, and 25 games. As few games he has played in 2015, 2021 and 2022 he still averages 16 games a season.
Reckon id take 16 games a season from him with his history of soft tissue injury.
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Averages a tick under 14 games in his 6 seasons with us during the home and away season. Numbers boost up a bit if you include finals as he’s always managed to get his body right for them.
Look I got 0 issues with dion, he was an absolute gun recruit and he’s paid off that trade 100 times over. All I was trying to say with my original comment is that it’s a shame he regularly happens to have soft tissue injuries because similarly with lynch, if they could play 22 games they would absolutely dominate and start getting the outside recognition they deserve.
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Prestia escapes serious injury
Michael Gleeson
The Age
9 March 2023
Richmond’s talismanic midfielder Dion Prestia has escaped serious injury to his pectoral muscle and is now set to play against Carlton in the blockbuster season-opener, with the Tigers also looking to play a debutant key defender against the Blues.
Sources added that scans revealed barely any damage to the muscle, that Prestia was pain free and is now almost certain to play against the Blues in what is already a sellout match at the MCG.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/north-s-mckay-out-for-start-of-season-premiership-cats-set-to-miss-20230308-p5cqf8.html
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nice.
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Good news for Tigers fans Dion Prestia trained fully this morning.
Left shoulder strapped but moved freely and showed no signs of pectoral issue suffered in final practice match.
Looks a lock for Thursday night
@7NewsMelbourne @7AFL
https://twitter.com/_AMcCormack7/status/1634702294708269056
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Nice.
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Dodged a bullet.
Now watch those hammies mate.
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Prestia training fully today. The vision here shows him involved in full contact match sim. Just needs to get through the main session on Tuesday morning to be completely ticked off to play.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1634824655105146881
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Not a great day from meatball today.
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Worst game I can recall, thank God for Hopper. Just didn't rock up Dion against a real crap and raw midfield should have filled his boots today like Hop did.
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Prestia playing his 100th game for the Tigers on Friday night :clapping.
Games
2017 22 ...... First year a Tiger and delivers a flag.
2018 13
2019 25 ...... B&F and flag #2.
2020 9 ...... Missed most of the H/A season but returned for the finals and nailed flag #3.
2021 9
2022 19 ...... Career high 19 Brownlow votes (8th in the count overall) despite missing 4 games and KOed early vs the Cats.
2023 3*
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Total 100* RFC games
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/D/Dion_Prestia.html
Dion plays his 200th in six weeks time (barring injury - touchwood not!).
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What a pickup!
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One of the very best mids going around.
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Not his usual game. Very disappointing IMHO.
Obviously trying to find the right balance with Tim and Jacob in the guts but you'd expect a better outcome in clearances but not so.
1 clearance isn’t enough from our most effective clearance machine.
I would’ve thought they would have found the right balance by now but it was a sub standard game by the one player that was normally our most effective barometer
Is he injured?
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Has been poor the past few weeks which is very very unlike him. Not sure what’s going on.
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Wonder if they're figuring out the midfield chemistry a bit but it's the worst I've seen him play in his whole RFC career.
Hope they work it out and all lift collectively.
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Definitely not fit.
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Fit or not fit
I’ve never seen him fumble like he is currently
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Has been poor the past few weeks which is very very unlike him. Not sure what’s going on.
Agree here. last few weeks have been very unlike Dion.
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A shadow of his former self.
Almost like he’s not even there. Don’t notice him anymore.
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Looks hurt, ok in / around the contested stuff but the run and spread isn’t there at the moment.
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Copped a knock in the 3rd qtr. Looked sore. Only had two possies that quarter and eight in total for the second half.
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Prestia on 7news tonight said he will be one of those 'rested' sometime over the next 4 matches along with Cotch and Jack.
We've got three 6-day breaks in a row coming up after the Melb game (we play Suns, Eagles and then Geelong).
Go to the 2:04 min mark: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1648610726175711233
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30 year olds being rested.. unsure about this. I guess Prestia has injury history but I hate the idea of not having our best 22 playing.
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This guy is playing as bad as vlastuin.
Love them both but gee they look terrible so far this year.
Dunno what it could be but he's fumbling, poor disposal, struggling to get to contests etc. Could it have anything to do with T & H inclusions?
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rested laughable. Its not April fools.
cotch Jack fine, but bloody hell are these guys 40 year olds or something. Must have been all the non footy handling drills they all did over the last few years.
It appears to have tired them all out.
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Prestia to miss Suns clash
By Richmond Media
27 April 2023
Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia will not play in Sunday’s match against Gold Coast at Marvel Stadium.
The 30-year-old will miss the game through management as the Tigers prepare for consecutive six-day breaks.
Richmond High-Performance Manager Luke Meehan said Prestia had reported soreness this week.
“Dion has been fantastic this year with his ability to present himself to play. However, given his history and the upcoming short turnarounds, we think the right decision is for him to miss Sunday’s game,” he said.
“Our indicators suggest that pushing him too far could result in us losing him for longer, so we are taking this necessary approach.”
At a recent media conference, Prestia said that his body may need rest in the coming weeks.
“It has been a pretty full-on season already, having two travels and probably going off my history and having six-day breaks- I think it is pretty smart to have a rest,” he explained.
“I think it is a smart idea to do that.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1317182/prestia-to-miss-suns-clash
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Felt like he was just starting to get a bit of touch back and we rest him. Oh well.
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He’s been as useful as a chocolate frypan this season so won’t be missed
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Doesn’t like right to me.
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The Richmond coach said star midfielder Dion Prestia would have a “welcome rest” this weekend, revealing the 30-year-old has been playing under duress following a pectoral strain on the eve of the season and a series of heavy knocks during games.
“He’s been really brave and being completely honest, he’s been playing hurt for quite some time, but we just haven’t had the numbers on the park,” Hardwick said.
“So he’s put his hand up to play and we could have quite easily not played him two or three times, but he wanted to put his hand up.
“We could push him this week, but we’d rather just take the one week … it’s a risk we’re willing to take instead of losing him for three or four.”
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-plots-tiger-surge-in-second-half-of-afl-season/news-story/f07f5a6711bcebd97f949d4c784de79c).
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If he’s been hurt then play martin or Bolton in the middle? Why is he only being rested now?
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If he’s been hurt then play martin or Bolton in the middle? Why is he only being rested now?
Three 6 day breaks in a row is the reason given.
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Maybe I'm missing something but if Prestia has been sore for a few games then why didn't rest him last week in a game we were unlikely to win (and lost anyway) and have him right for the more winnable game this week. Let's hope it doesn't backfire like it did when we stupidly 'rested' Jack against the Dogs rather than versus the Pies and lost both games :P.
If it was me:
Dees - rested Prestia
Suns - play
Eagles - play
Geel - rest (3rd six break in a row)
Ess - play
Port @ G - play
GWS - play
Focus on playing the best available team in the winnable games and we'd be 5-1-5 by the midpoint of the season and our season still alive with the troops returning.
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I think the off field management of the team has been poor for a couple of seasons.
The mantra from Dimma was “take the stairs” but we have barely climbed any floors :lol
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it says a lot about all our off field departments I mean who has a player playing half banged up, especially one that is doing nothing when he plays. What kind of amaeturs are running the conditioning department letting players override them?
It also says a lot about Dimma and co and how they view guys like Ross. They would rather a banged up Prestia than a fully fit ross. On prestias numbers i would say ross would have made more impact this year, and thats saying something considering my thoughts on Ross.
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I hate this resting stuff. This is done and is fine when you are top 4. Not when you are 1-1-4.
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Massive risk not playing him. Hope it doesn't back fire.
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Massive risk not playing him. Hope it doesn't back fire.
Massive? Not so sure. Prestia hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire.
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Meh. He’s been average this season anyway.
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Agree with others. In seasons past he would have been a massive massive loss. His form this season has been avg to say the least and he has plenty of company in that respect.
If we’re not good enough to beat the suns without him they we wouldn’t be good enough to beat them with him.
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Massive risk not playing him. Hope it doesn't back fire.
It has. Second time this year the match committee has rested a player in the wrong game and it's backfired. First was playing Jack against Collingwood and not the Dogs (lost both). Now Prestia - played against Melbourne and not the Suns = lost both games again :banghead.
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Massive risk not playing him. Hope it doesn't back fire.
It has. Second time this year the match committee has rested a player in the wrong game and it's backfired. First was playing Jack against Collingwood and not the Dogs (lost both). Now Prestia - played against Melbourne and not the Suns = lost both games again :banghead.
MT, we would have lost with 5 Prestias out there yesterday.
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Fettuccine never use cream. :shh
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Massive risk not playing him. Hope it doesn't back fire.
It has. Second time this year the match committee has rested a player in the wrong game and it's backfired. First was playing Jack against Collingwood and not the Dogs (lost both). Now Prestia - played against Melbourne and not the Suns = lost both games again :banghead.
Agree. Took a chance shouldn't have and paid the price.
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Wouldn’t have changed anything
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Agree doubt it would have changed the result
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We played our way - Prestia:
WATCH: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1323806/we-played-our-way-prestia
Prestia's hat-trick gets the 'G going at last:
WATCH: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1323524/round-8-prestia-s-outrageous-hat-trick-gets-g-going-at-last
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“He is a pretty special player, Dion, and he played really hurt at the start of the year, and he put his hand up to play,” said Hardwick.
“We didn’t really have a lot of other magnets to promote opportunity, so for him to come back, have a rest and rejig, I thought was pretty important today. For him to hit the scoreboard when it mattered, it sort of broke the game open from there.”
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/bolton-prestia-take-charge-as-tigers-topple-eagles-20230505-p5d66d.html).
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I was shocked he kicked one at all, he's often a bit ordinary in front of goal.
Kicking 3 I was laughing myself silly.
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“He is a pretty special player, Dion, and he played really hurt at the start of the year, and he put his hand up to play,” said Hardwick.
“We didn’t really have a lot of other magnets to promote opportunity, so for him to come back, have a rest and rejig, I thought was pretty important today. For him to hit the scoreboard when it mattered, it sort of broke the game open from there.”
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/bolton-prestia-take-charge-as-tigers-topple-eagles-20230505-p5d66d.html).
Dow? :rollin
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Playing in a unique half forward/midfield role, Prestia did maximum damage during the Tigers surge that was ultimately the difference between the two sides.
“It was this man who did the damage,” triple-premiership Lion Jonathan Brown said of Prestia on Fox Footy.
“He’s been playing 60 per cent time as a forward, but it’s essentially an extra forward.
“He’s a half forward that’s coming up to the stoppage.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-afl-2023-richmond-tigers-vs-west-coast-eagles-round-8-live-scores-updates-stats-video-stream-result-news-blog/news-story/83e446c0c2ee8c986f6fe729e5cefb40
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Prestia's 200th this week :clapping.
Gold Coast (R2, 2011 - R16, 2016) 95
Richmond (R1, 2017 - R9, 2023*) 105*
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Total 200* games
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2023/141820230506.html
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Browny he had a purple patch in one quarter. If he has been playing 60% forward for most of the year then his goal yield for those other games is exactly Zero !!!!!! that has been a huge success not.
Fmd morons like Brown no jounalistic skills whatever. but hey he was a good footballer who a lot of the time shows he has nfi despite having played the game real well.
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Highlights: Dion Prestia 200 games
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1656186914800820224
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Prestia's full interview on SEN with Andrew Gaze and Andy Maher:
LISTEN: https://megaphone.link/NTETP2501865681
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PRESTIA: My good mate Steven May is also playing his 200th game this weekend so I'm pretty excited for us both
PRESTIA: Injuries are a part of the game but I have probably spent more time in the rehab group than most. I feel like it's shaped me and if you are going to play for a long time in the AFL this is going to happen. I had a few niggles earlier this season but feeling good now
PRESTIA: When you sit down with your line coaches we talk about having more scoreboard impact. It's not necessarily about kicking goals but score involvements. I had 13 on the weekend which I think is the most I have had in my career
PRESTIA: I wouldn't know much about spoiling. Don't think I have had one in my career! I don't think the incident with Jacob Van Rooyen will change the game too much. Other rules such as slide rule have had far more impact
https://twitter.com/TheRunHomeSEN
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From the Age article about Prestia's 200th by Michael Gleeson:
The return match against the Cats, and Stewart, deflects from a celebration of Prestia’s career. He plays his 200th game. Coincidentally, it is also the 200th game this week of his former Gold Coast Suns teammate and still-close friend Steven May.
It feels a world away from then to consider May and Prestia as Suns players, indeed May as the captain. Since leaving they have won four flags between them at their new clubs, been All-Australian (May) and won a best and fairest in a premiership year (Prestia). It’s a reminder of what might have been at Gold Coast when you also consider other former young Suns Tom Lynch, Jaeger O’Meara, Jack Martin, Charlie Dixon and Tom Hickey are still toiling and performing at other clubs.
“I absolutely loved my time on the Gold Coast. I have so many friends who live with up there who are still there or moved clubs as well. We learned how to grow up together and everything like that. So that’s why you always have that connection,” Prestia said.
“Big Steve May’s playing his 200th this week as well. I’m real close with Steve, like, we pretty much bonded as soon as we met each other up there.”
One of the more remarkable things about Prestia is he is essentially the same build now as he was then.
“I was looking at of photos from my Calder Cannons year. I’m like, I actually haven’t really changed all that much,” he said. Which partly explained why he quickly earned the nickname “Meatball” at the Suns.
Though Lynch, his teammate at Richmond and the Gold Coast, said he also picked up another nickname at the Suns - “The Box”. He was just a block.
Lynch recalled that the Suns told Prestia when he came to Melbourne for games and went home to Craigieburn that he had to tell his mum not to load him up with so much pasta because he had to trim down, not bulk up.
“I look for my first goal against West Coast, I’m actually pretty big there,” Prestia said.
But the home cooking hasn’t rubbed off on Prestia.
“I’ve lived with him for two years, and he has cooked me a meal once,” said teammate Ivan Soldo. Though the ruckman is not complaining, he joins Prestia at the Craigieburn family home for meals once or twice a week and always comes home with a big spread of left-overs.
Often the man-child in football can come to earth when the other teenagers catch up, and the physical edge the teenager has diminishes. That hasn’t happened in Prestia’s case, primarily because while his strength gave him an edge, so too did his explosive pace. And if you have pace, you don’t lose an edge.
Now he has a very tailored gym program and doesn’t do any upper body weights at all because he gets too big.
The other reason Prestia has retained an edge is that he has an intuitive understanding of the game. Soldo reckons he will be a coach when he finishes playing.
Andrew McQualter, one of the assistant coaches at Richmond who also played with him briefly at the Suns, had little doubt he would transition to coaching because he is already doing it now.
Prestia is one of the conduit players on the ground. He sees problems on the field in real time, and makes changes he knows the coaches will want before messages are sent.
“His ability to see the game is incredible. Him, Shane Edwards and Kane Lambert are the smartest players I have seen. He helps the group understand what it is we are doing,” McQualter said.
“But if we ever do anything at training that he thinks doesn’t relate to the game he pulls us up straight away. He gets grumpy. You get ‘Grumpy Dion’ and ‘Happy Dion’ and if we have ‘Happy Dion’ we are all happy.”
His football intelligence was one of the reasons that Tigers coach Damien Hardwick re-deployed him from the midfield last week into the forward line with a very simple instruction: you will work it out.
“I was actually pretty lucky, ‘Dimma’ kind of gave me a blank canvas and said ‘You’re smart enough to know the role, see how you play that role’,” Prestia said.
It worked out OK. Prestia kicked three goals in minutes and turned the game.
“The first one was like, ‘Finally I’ve kicked a goal this year’. And then I think by the end of it we were all like half laughing at it because it’s such a rare thing for someone to do let alone a midfielder who isn’t known for kicking goals.
“I did say to them [the other forwards], ‘It’s not that hard’.”
Surprisingly, he ran further and at a high pace for longer than he did as a midfielder. But he didn’t get knocked around in packs quite the same way.
Managing his body has been an ongoing thing. The frustration for Richmond fans, as much as for Prestia, is how noticeable it is when he isn’t there. He is a talismanic player.
“The way I play probably exposes me more to injury issues. Being more explosive and things like that it’s accepting that injuries are a part of the game,” he said.
“I haven’t had anything with my knees since I’ve been at Richmond. Touch wood the body is in good shape. That’s why I feel like I’ve still got a fair bit of footy left in me.”
After 200 games, the former Sun is still rising.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/he-should-have-got-more-but-prestia-not-holding-a-grudge-over-stewart-hit-20230510-p5d7fs.html).
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Must have been a sweet win for Dion in so many ways :thumbsup.
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/b85a35b2dd1e89bb422b667a8192130b)
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I dunno Bakes, match up with an Oompa Loompah next time you try to chair somebody off the ground .... :snidegrin
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Ever wondered why Dion Prestia is nicknamed 'The Meatball?'
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1656948229395865601
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Gutless effort tonight Dion. 11 touches. Saw you jogging and had back to play many times. Broken tackles.
No Parish, No Shiel, No Setterfield. Not good enough.
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Gutless effort tonight Dion. 11 touches. Saw you jogging and had back to play many times. Broken tackles.
No Parish, No Shiel, No Setterfield. Not good enough.
Wort game he has played by a mile.
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Gutless effort tonight Dion. 11 touches. Saw you jogging and had back to play many times. Broken tackles.
No Parish, No Shiel, No Setterfield. Not good enough.
Yep wasn't attacking the ball. Or the man actually.
Absolutely half arsed.
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Stick a fork in him.
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Seemed disinterested
But wasn't alone
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When does his contract end? Hopefully now.
Thanks Dion now go away and enjoy your retirement.
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When does his contract end? Hopefully now.
Thanks Dion now go away and enjoy your retirement.
There is zero doubt he’s playing severely injured
Wouldn’t you think he has enough runs on the board to see how it plays out?
As opposed to just saying ooroo, off ya trot, and don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out
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He is done perhaps I should have said stick a fork in him he his cooked??
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He looks overweight.
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He looks overweight.
He looks cooked. Was woeful
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Quite bizarre how bad he was last night.
If he’s really that injured then don’t play him.
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What was his midfield time last night? I really don’t understand playing Prestia of all people as a fwd.
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He looks overweight.
He looks cooked. Was woeful
Looks too bad to be true
Clearly isn’t right
And if that’s the case he shouldn’t be playing
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Best half of footy this year was as a forward against the West Coast Auskickers. :shh
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What has happened to Dion? Was a key to us playing well previously but atm it's as if he has lost all confidence. Injury ? Change in players around him? Changed role ? I just don't know but he can't seam to pick it up, make the right choice or hit targets. Something is off.
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Actually thought it was one of his better games for the season (atleast for the first 2-3 qtrs) although that isn’t really saying much.
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I know this is not a really popular opinion but I just think Dion and many others have gotten drunk on success and their desire and hunger is no longer there, and when you add age and subsequent injuries the end result is plain for all to see
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Must be injured.
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We need to be looking at Jack first
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Thought his game was ok and almost his best for the year.
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Prestia had 29 disposals (second most for us):
29 disposals (12k, 17h, 10c, 18h, 62.1%)
no marks
2 tackles (1 F50 tackle)
5 clearances
3 inside 50s
232 metres gained
1 intercept
5 score involvements
83% time on ground
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Thought he was good, which made last week even worse.
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I thought he was OK
Couple of times he refused to attack contests
That's not the Dion we are used to seeing
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Play him as a small forward - would be an upgrade on Morris Mansell. :shh
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Seems to be significantly slower than he used to be.
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Did he play full time on ball second half? Looked like the meatball of old.
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This was with only seconds left... was Dion taking the pee because of what happened a couple of games back [ed. last year] with the swan guy kicking the ball out at the siren?
#gotiges
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/GrantLPollerd/status/1677113143116566529
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Champion Data’s Daniel Hoyne joined SEN’s Sportsday to discuss the performances from Round 17 which may have been overlooked in the coaches’ votes.
Dion Prestia (Richmond)
“We’ve got Dion Prestia here.
“He didn't get a vote from the coaches, and we had him as the fifth-highest rated player on the ground.
“It was actually his second-highest rated game for the season.
“He had 22 disposals and his ball use, which is probably sort of not often a real strength area of his game, was his best of the season.
“He was playing a slightly different role on Friday.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/12/the-round-17-performances-that-flew-under-the-radar-according-to-champion/
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Dion once again showed why he is very important to our midfield structure and wins over the past two weeks with him back in the side. Does the bread and butter stuff. Almost 500m gained as a mid yesterday too.
21 disposals (11k, 10h, 7c, 13u, 66.7% eff.)
3 tackles (2 F50 tackles)
4 clearances (1 centre clearance)
7 inside 50s
496 metres gained
8 score involvements
1 goal assist
1 goal
83% time on ground
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FRIDAY KNOCK OFFS: How Prestia became a Tiger, change at Punt Rd, 'Mini' praise
Dion Prestia tells Dylan how he ended up at Tigerland, what's changed since Dimma's departure, and why he endorses 'Mini' for the job.
WATCH HERE: https://www.afl.com.au/video/982704/friday-knock-offs-how-prestia-became-a-tiger-change-at-punt-rd-mini-praise
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Mini said we should all thank Meatball :thumbsup.
28 disposals (14k, 14h, 8c, 20u, 75% eff.)
4 marks
7 tackles
4 clearances (2 centre clearances)
5 inside 50s
419 metres gained
2 intercepts
6 score involvements
1 behind
77% time on ground
Quirky stat: When Prestia has had more than 20 disposals this year, our record is 8 wins, 2 losses and a draw.
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Looked back to his normal self these last couple of weeks.
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Champion Data says we are a +26 point better side when Prestia is on the ground (12th best in the AFL).
Dion Prestia (RICH)
Mins On: 1590
Mins Off: 658
Net scores per 100 mins On: +7.67
Net scores per 100 mins Off: -18.85
+/- difference: +26.52
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/38110620/afl-players-most-impact-their-team-looking-nba-style-plus-minus
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Sam Edmond reporting that Dion Prestia allegedly would like to finish his career in QLD
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When's his contact up and what money is he on?
31 in October and doesn't really owe us much.
Would hate to lose him but might free up money for FA.
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Alternatively, would GCS entertain a trade for 7 if we're paying his wage and send them some lower picks for academy players?
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I would say this has more truth to it than any Dusty rumour.
has close friends in Goldy and i know at least one of them :shh
he is contracted so Pick 7 would have to be part of it.
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When he's on song we win more often than not but he's also injury prone , over 30 and playing less & less of those match winning games each year. As long as it's not for peanuts, then let him go. :shh
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Why didn't he just stay there then. Doesn't make a lot of sense other than players jumping from a sinking ship
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When he's on song we win more often than not but he's also injury prone , over 30 and playing less & less of those match winning games each year. As long as it's not for peanuts, then let him go. :shh
Agree.
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Why didn't he just stay there then. Doesn't make a lot of sense other than players jumping from a sinking ship
Probably the 3 flags
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Here's the SEN article about Prestia:
SUNS AND LIONS AWARE OF RICHMOND STAR’S APPARENT INTEREST IN QUEENSLAND RETURN
Andrew Slevison
SEN
23 August 2023
Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia is reported to have “some interest” in returning to Queensland.
According to SEN’s Sam Edmund, the 30-year-old triple premiership player is believed to have spoken about his desire to finish his career up north.
Prestia, of course, left Gold Coast to join the Tigers in 2016. The news comes after three-time flag winning coach Damien Hardwick took the job at the Suns which has also linked Dustin Martin to the club.
It is understood that the Brisbane Lions are also aware of Prestia’s apparent inclination.
“There’s a lot of speculation about whether Dustin Martin would or even could join his former coach Damien Hardwick up at the Gold Coast Suns,” Edmund said on SEN Breakfast.
“But there’s also been quite a few whispers about another Tiger, maybe, being keen to move back to the Sunshine State.
“That’s Dion Prestia who left the Suns for Richmond back in 2016.
“My understanding is Prestia has privately discussed the prospect of finishing out his career up north. That feeling is something both Queensland clubs have also heard and are aware of.”
Edmund has been in touch with Prestia’s management team who seemingly poured cold water on the suggestions.
But there is a wrinkle in that Kapital Sports look after Gold Coast’s academy young guns - Jed Walter, Ethan Read and Jake Rogers - who all be drafted by the Suns this year.
That makes it even trickier if Prestia, who is contracted for 2024, did seriously want to make a shift late in his career.
“I contacted Prestia’s management yesterday. They say for their part they’re unaware of any serious desire to change clubs,” he added.
“Prestia is contracted for one more year at Richmond.
“His management company, Kapital Sports, also happen to represent the three Suns academy kids in Jed Walter, Ethan Read and Jake Rogers, who are all going to be taken at the pointy end of the draft, and therefore will require significant draft pick capital from the Suns to match those rival bids.
“So bringing in established big names like Dion Prestia and the like from rival clubs for the Gold Coast Suns is all very difficult and unlikely, even they’re even interested in going down that path. They’re going to trade their first pick though, we know that. They don’t want that to be absorbed in the academy pick up.
“But the Suns can also trade future picks and players if they are of that mind. As I said, unlikely, and cap space might also be a problem.”
Edmund is unaware why Prestia would want to return to Queensland, but does insist there is some interest.
“I don’t know the motivation for the interest, who knows what else is going on there,” Edmund said further.
“All I can tell you is that he has told people privately that he’s got some interest.
“Is that tongue-in-cheek like his management company suggests? Is it legitimate? Is it just a pipe dream that will never happen?
“But it’s certainly been doing the rounds up there (in Queensland) for a while.”
The 2019 Jack Dyer Medallist has played 20 games this season, averaging close to 22 disposals and four clearances.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/22/suns-and-lions-aware-of-richmond-stars-apparent-interest-in-queensland/
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I’d love to get a first rounder for him
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Lets be realistic here. He's 30+ and injury prone.
We'd be lucky to get a second rounder.
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Lets be realistic here. He's 30+ and injury prone.
We'd be lucky to get a second rounder.
He’d 100% get a first rounder. He’s under contract that they’d need to pay overs but we might throw in some late rounders to give them draft points to get their academy picks
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Granted my age limits me to the mid 90s onwards, but he’s gotta be up there with one of the greatest trades in the clubs history? 3 x Premiership player, 1 x BnF (in a premiership year), Norm Smith votes in 2 of the 3 grand finals. In my eyes, when fit was one of the best mids in the comp (other than maybe this year) and I don’t think he gets the credit he deserves outside of our club.
In saying all of that, if he actually does want to leave, then this would be one that would benefit both parties. As people above have mentioned, he’s getting on in age, is quite injury prone and his game winning performances are much less frequent. If we can grab gold coasts first rounder which they don’t want anyway as they’ll be taking 2 top 10 players out of their academy anyway (probably giving them a second rounder or something like that back), shed his salary even if we have to pay a bit of it (it’s only 1 more season), then I’d take that as a win for us.
In saying all that, if this is all media BS then would love to see him see out his career in the y&b.
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Is this a case like Hardwick of another who can see the writing on the wall. Just asking thats all and why wouldn't ya.
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Midfielder Dion Prestia will miss the Round 24 match due to a minor knee complaint that the Club will take no risks on.
Source: RFC website.
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Getting him ready for the Lions in round one 2024. Lol.
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Midfielder Dion Prestia will miss the Round 24 match due to a minor knee complaint that the Club will take no risks on.
Source: RFC website.
Seems like he is being rested so as not to risk his trade value. Club has obviously made the decision to keep Dusty and trade Dion to free up some salary cap room.
Wonder what pick we'll get for Dusty next year as a free agent. Probably end of 2nd round knowing the AFL for the greatest finals player in the history of the game.
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“NO INTENTION OF LEAVING”: TIGERS INTERIM COACH MCQUALTER TALKS DOWN PRESTIA TRADE REPORTS
Paddy Sinnott
SEN
27 August 2023
Richmond interim coach Andrew McQualter has shut down reports that midfielder Dion Prestia is seeking a trade back to Queensland.
SEN’s Sam Edmund recently reported that Prestia was open to returning to Queensland, with his former club Gold Coast and Brisbane both aware of the possibility.
Rumours intensified when Prestia was managed for Richmond’s final match of the season against Port Adelaide, however McQualter cited a knee concern as the reason, not trade talk.
“Dion’s been managing a knee for a few weeks now and it just blew up a little bit after last week’s game,” he told SEN’s Crunch Time.
“The reality is he could’ve played if it was a Grand Final, but we just thought that it was not worth taking the risk with Dion if he wasn’t going to be fully fit.
“We were really keen to bring a fit and hungry side over here, so that’s what we’ve done.
“I’m not sure where that report came from about Dion or who reported it, but Dion’s a contracted player with us and he has no intention of leaving.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/27/no-intention-of-leaving-tigers-interim-coach-mcqualter-talks-down-prestia/
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If the deal is there do it.
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Nathan Broad’s Blunt Response to Dion Prestia Trade Gossip
Go to 9:00 min mark: https://articles.listnr.com/sport/nathan-broads-blunt-response-to-dion-prestia-trade-gossip/
Broad: "That's the media isn't it. They write these things, there are no consequences, and we just move on until the next story that comes out."
Dion is staying and he was peeed off by the media report. Rumour is "squashed"!
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Meatball is 31 today :birthday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8Md7CxbQAAzUIQ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1712245310309969994
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Tigers mid to miss match sim after hamstring setback
Dion Prestia will train away from the main group after suffering a minor hamstring injury
afl.com.au
2 February 2024
RICHMOND midfielder Dion Prestia will miss the club's match sim against Melbourne on February 18 after suffering a minor hamstring injury.
However, the club is hopeful the 31-year-old will be available for the following week's AFL Community Series hitout against Collingwood.
Prestia, who has a history of soft-tissue injuries, left the track early on Wednesday night during the Tigers' intraclub match simulation.
Physical performance manager Luke Meehan said the injury was minor and would only restrict Prestia from training fully for the short term.
"Dion unfortunately had some hamstring awareness early in Wednesday's match simulation, which, following scans, we have decided will require a short rehabilitation period," he said.
"We anticipate he will be back training fully in a couple of weeks."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1074696/tigers-midfielder-dion-prestia-to-miss-match-sim-after-hamstring-setback
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Sigh
Here we go
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Hang 'em up son - ya got nothin' left to prove... :shh
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Groundhog Day
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Cooked. :shh
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Totally
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tend to agree.
Atm id say he should not be playing round first round which by the way is not zero but freakin round 1. :o
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Prestia wants a new contract. So obviously he's looking to play on beyond this year.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1500126/bring-it-on-prestia
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..and we'll be dumb enough to give him one.... :facepalm
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Prestia wants a new contract. So obviously he's looking to play on beyond this year.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1500126/bring-it-on-prestia
Conditions based project maybe but would not be paying much
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No.
Wait until mid-year minimum.
This guy could year a hammy or calf and be done and retired by then.
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Sadly, Dion's hammies are now like tissue paper :(. Regular soft tissue injuries are the bane of older players.
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All the best for future Dion.
Body is finished. Was awful last week at a jog.
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Just retire !
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I’m sure he cares but his admission last week that he will do his hammy again shows he probably has accepted defeat mentally, if he’s only good for 5-10 games a year what’s the point
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What a pickup he was. Worth every penny of his contract and pick we gave up.
Sadly his time is up.
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Agree with all sentiments.
Time to retire Dion and thanks for everything.
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Who was the idiot that decided it was a good idea to play Prestia off a 5 day break after a hammy in our 1st practise match? Dumb campaigner should be sacked tonight
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well that idiot is called Luke. With prestias history you would think he had a massive say.
absolute dud that bloke and tbh i wouldnt even rule out of the acl to gibcus had something to do with his overloaded training.
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FFS just pull the plug Dion...you were a champ but it's over.... :shh
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I think Dion needs to be tapped on the shoulder this year . He’s been a champion for us but currently his ROI is at rock bottom.
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Who was the idiot that decided it was a good idea to play Prestia off a 5 day break after a hammy in our 1st practise match? Dumb campaigner should be sacked tonight
Great comment
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Unfortunately it appears his body can't handle playing football at this level anymore
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Missed half of 2018
Played most 2019
Missed half of 2020
Gets a 3 year contract extension
Missed more than half of 2021
Left the field early 4 times in 19 games 2022
Did 20/23 games on managed minutes in 2023
Looks set to miss plenty in 2024
So not a complete disaster but you have to question the logic and timing of that 3 year extension
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Sheesh I’d hate to go into battle with some of you blokes , it’s panic stations and head for the hills all round.
Dion may well be cooked but round two is not the time to throw the baby out with the bath water At the end of the season with a full season behind is the time for such decisions .And as Trent mentioned recently and I’m paraphrasing here these blokes like Dylan and Dion have runs on the board.
And to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby , such decisions are made in the fullness of time otherwise they are termed as courageous decisions ie silly
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Sheesh I’d hate to go into battle with some of you blokes , it’s panic stations and head for the hills all round.
Dion may well be cooked but round two is not the time to throw the baby out with the bath water At the end of the season with a full season behind is the time for such decisions .And as Trent mentioned recently and I’m paraphrasing here these blokes like Dylan and Dion have runs on the board.
And to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby , such decisions are made in the fullness of time otherwise they are termed as courageous decisions ie silly
You for real?
He's 32 at year's end.
Out of contract.
List/club rebuilding or needs to be.
He's had soft tissue injuries on multiple occasions virtually every single year he's been with us. He's missed about 40 games in 7 years and will clearly miss plenty more in 2024.
Better a year early than a day late, as they say. Or in this case, probably call it for MSD, try to get back for a farewell game (maybe Anzac eve vs Dees?), bathe in the glory of his numerous career achievements, and step aside so we can take a punt on a kid before year's end.
There's a very good chance he would otherwise only manage 10-15 games this year when we know we won't make or impact finals and the appropriate thing for both club & player at year's end will be to amicably part ways.
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I appreciate Grigg more as each day passes calling it quits when he knew he was cooked.
I love this guy for what he has done, but he is so cooked. With no injury and a clear run at games he is still slow and a shadow of his former self.
The only reason for playing him , Pickett and Macca is our youth is so bad they aren't even worth it. This could be a possibility when you look at some of them.
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Sheesh I’d hate to go into battle with some of you blokes , it’s panic stations and head for the hills all round.
Dion may well be cooked but round two is not the time to throw the baby out with the bath water At the end of the season with a full season behind is the time for such decisions .And as Trent mentioned recently and I’m paraphrasing here these blokes like Dylan and Dion have runs on the board.
And to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby , such decisions are made in the fullness of time otherwise they are termed as courageous decisions ie silly
You for real?
He's 32 at year's end.
Out of contract.
List/club rebuilding or needs to be.
He's had soft tissue injuries on multiple occasions virtually every single year he's been with us. He's missed about 40 games in 7 years and will clearly miss plenty more in 2024.
Better a year early than a day late, as they say. Or in this case, probably call it for MSD, try to get back for a farewell game (maybe Anzac eve vs Dees?), bathe in the glory of his numerous career achievements, and step aside so we can take a punt on a kid before year's end.
There's a very good chance he would otherwise only manage 10-15 games this year when we know we won't make or impact finals and the appropriate thing for both club & player at year's end will be to amicably part ways.
He won’t retire. He was recently talking about getting a contract for next year. Have to say I would be very surprised if he gets a contract with rfc
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Sheesh I’d hate to go into battle with some of you blokes , it’s panic stations and head for the hills all round.
Dion may well be cooked but round two is not the time to throw the baby out with the bath water At the end of the season with a full season behind is the time for such decisions .And as Trent mentioned recently and I’m paraphrasing here these blokes like Dylan and Dion have runs on the board.
And to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby , such decisions are made in the fullness of time otherwise they are termed as courageous decisions ie silly
You for real?
He's 32 at year's end.
Out of contract.
List/club rebuilding or needs to be.
He's had soft tissue injuries on multiple occasions virtually every single year he's been with us. He's missed about 40 games in 7 years and will clearly miss plenty more in 2024.
Better a year early than a day late, as they say. Or in this case, probably call it for MSD, try to get back for a farewell game (maybe Anzac eve vs Dees?), bathe in the glory of his numerous career achievements, and step aside so we can take a punt on a kid before year's end.
There's a very good chance he would otherwise only manage 10-15 games this year when we know we won't make or impact finals and the appropriate thing for both club & player at year's end will be to amicably part ways.
He won’t retire. He was recently talking about getting a contract for next year. Have to say I would be very surprised if he gets a contract with rfc
Hopefully he doesn't do a Houli and get a bit pissy about it. Would be a sad way to end a great thing.
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Sheesh I’d hate to go into battle with some of you blokes , it’s panic stations and head for the hills all round.
Dion may well be cooked but round two is not the time to throw the baby out with the bath water At the end of the season with a full season behind is the time for such decisions .And as Trent mentioned recently and I’m paraphrasing here these blokes like Dylan and Dion have runs on the board.
And to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby , such decisions are made in the fullness of time otherwise they are termed as courageous decisions ie silly
Oh you mean like at the end of 2023 where he played most games and was mostly awful. He was cooked last year and nothing looks like it has changed.
Yep lets just do it all again. Just crazy talk if you think this is only about two games this year. Another old quote goes. It is madness to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
Id hate to go to war with you in charge you would be just like the British officer class in the first world war where it was quite alright to just keep throwing men against machine guns just to get slaughtered.
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Prestia Grimes and McIntosh should have all been let go last year . Wgaf about past history, clubs can never fall into the trap of holding on to players for sentimental value.. need to be respectful but RUTHLESS.. We ere never going to compete for the GF this year . Just f them off and get games into kids
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Questionable decision to play Prestia
By Adem Yze’s own admission, the Tigers might have erred in playing Dion Prestia (hamstring) off a five-day break.
The 31-year-old has a history of soft tissue injuries and perhaps should have been rested for the Blues clash, especially considering Dustin Martin was returning.
It’s easier said in hindsight, but the fact Yze admitted it was a risk suggests the Tigers might have got this one wrong. As the coach said, they’ll “live and learn”.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/18/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-each-clubs-wins-and-woes-from-round-1/).
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Questionable decision to play Prestia
By Adem Yze’s own admission, the Tigers might have erred in playing Dion Prestia (hamstring) off a five-day break.
The 31-year-old has a history of soft tissue injuries and perhaps should have been rested for the Blues clash, especially considering Dustin Martin was returning.
It’s easier said in hindsight, but the fact Yze admitted it was a risk suggests the Tigers might have got this one wrong. As the coach said, they’ll “live and learn”.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/18/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-each-clubs-wins-and-woes-from-round-1/).
Yes "live and learn" from the thing everyone saw coming based on a small sample size of only *checks notes* the previous 4 seasons.... :joker :propeller :facepalm
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I don't blame Yze for this but the blokes at the helm for last 4 years that should have known better. Performance manager for one.
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Luke Meehan is an absolute disgrace. We hired him without interviewing anyone else.
He messed up with lynch, and this is icing on the cake
His conduct is very questionable.
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Luke Meehan is an absolute disgrace. We hired him without interviewing anyone else.
He messed up with lynch, and this is icing on the cake
His conduct is very questionable.
The thing that amazes me is that they waited a year to send Gibcus overseas to some Guru.
Why didn’t they send him sooner??
Also the Lynch debacle and now we have him overseeing other injuries to young kids.
PHO.
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I don't blame Yze for this but the blokes at the helm for last 4 years that should have known better. Performance manager for one.
:lol :lol so you're saying the Senior Coach doesn't have the final say in selection
Luke Meehan is an absolute disgrace. We hired him without interviewing anyone else.
He messed up with lynch, and this is icing on the cake
His conduct is very questionable.
On queue :clapping :clapping
:jump
The thing that amazes me is that they waited a year to send Gibcus overseas to some Guru.
Why didn’t they send him sooner??
Also the Lynch debacle and now we have him overseeing other injuries to young kids.
PHO.
And who was the one that found the guru after all the "experts" in Australia couldn't work out what the Gibcus issue was? Asking for a friend :rollin
And just another question don't surgeons need to be held to account too, when things they should happen doent happen? Asking for another friend ;D
:invasion :jump :outtahere
:sarcasm
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I don't blame Yze for this but the blokes at the helm for last 4 years that should have known better. Performance manager for one.
:lol :lol so you're saying the Senior Coach doesn't have the final say in selection
Luke Meehan is an absolute disgrace. We hired him without interviewing anyone else.
He messed up with lynch, and this is icing on the cake
His conduct is very questionable.
On queue :clapping :clapping
:jump
The thing that amazes me is that they waited a year to send Gibcus overseas to some Guru.
Why didn’t they send him sooner??
Also the Lynch debacle and now we have him overseeing other injuries to young kids.
PHO.
And who was the one that found the guru after all the "experts" in Australia couldn't work out what the Gibcus issue was? Asking for a friend :rollin
And just another question don't surgeons need to be held to account too, when things they should happen doent happen? Asking for another friend ;D
:invasion :jump :outtahere
:sarcasm
You have changed your tone in Meehan. Never liked this decision hiring within . There has been too many injuries and inconsistencies. Last year's preseason was amateur like.
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You have changed your tone in Meehan. Never liked this decision hiring within . There has been too many injuries and inconsistencies. Last year's preseason was amateur like.
I haven't actually been very consistent in my views
He has got alot wrong, alot
But I will not whack him for things that were out of his control. If a surgeon gives the Club a post surgery plan for a player to follow and the S&T and club doctors team follow that to the letter I fail to see how one person can be blamed when the recovery doesn't go to plan.
But whatever, way of the world these days it's always someone else's fault ;D
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You have changed your tone in Meehan. Never liked this decision hiring within . There has been too many injuries and inconsistencies. Last year's preseason was amateur like.
I haven't actually been very consistent in my views
He has got alot wrong, alot
But I will not whack him for things that were out of his control. If a surgeon gives the Club a post surgery plan for a player to follow and the S&T and club doctors team follow that to the letter I fail to see how one person can be blamed when the recovery doesn't go to plan.
But whatever, way of the world these days it's always someone else's fault ;D
I agree on that point if the surgeon recommends something and then it goes off track it's not on him , but let's be honest how many times has this happened maybe the Gibcus issue last year. Playing Prestia last week again was a poor decision on him and the match committee.
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Bone infections are very serious and difficult to treat. Often not the fault of someone like Meehan.
The risk of infection and complications is so high that orthopaedic surgery is done in something similar to a ventilated space suit rather than just sterile gowns and hair nets with masks.
I've scrubbed for surgeries like ACLs, joint replacements etc. It's brutal stuff haha
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8-10 weeks for dion. He’s completely done
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From the CLub website
"Scans have confirmed that midfielder Dion Prestia suffered a significant hamstring strain in Thursday night’s loss to Carlton.
Prestia felt the injury to his right leg late in the opening term and was subsequently substituted out of the game.
The Club anticipates Prestia will miss the next 8-10 weeks due to the injury."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1510705/injury-report-round-2-2024
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A legend of our dynasty era and although not official, if the Carlton game was his last game it’s a sad way to see him bow out of the game. The human meatball is forever a premiership hero and also, who’s to say we ever land lynch if he wasn’t at the tigers?
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It’s probably too late but why haven’t they sent Dion to the same guru they sent Gibcus to??
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From the CLub website
"Scans have confirmed that midfielder Dion Prestia suffered a significant hamstring strain in Thursday night’s loss to Carlton.
Prestia felt the injury to his right leg late in the opening term and was subsequently substituted out of the game.
The Club anticipates Prestia will miss the next 8-10 weeks due to the injury."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1510705/injury-report-round-2-2024
Poor decision who allowed him to play after a 5 day break really poor management. Still maintain our fitness and conditioning needs a revamp.
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surely the writing is on the wall now, even for him with his denial
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From the CLub website
"Scans have confirmed that midfielder Dion Prestia suffered a significant hamstring strain in Thursday night’s loss to Carlton.
Prestia felt the injury to his right leg late in the opening term and was subsequently substituted out of the game.
The Club anticipates Prestia will miss the next 8-10 weeks due to the injury."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1510705/injury-report-round-2-2024
Poor decision who allowed him to play after a 5 day break really poor management. Still maintain our fitness and conditioning needs a revamp.
if that was burge WP would be going to town, but its her cousin or long lost friend so play on.
Disgrace that he amongst a few more allowed it to occur. If it was Yze's decision which i very much doubt then he is off to a bad start.
Grinding a champ to the ground, who is playing b grade footy when there was no need at all is crazy amateur stuff.
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Granted I generally agree that it was unwise to play him, however, if youre needing to rest 2 rounds into the season, then the writings on the wall.
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Coming off an injury in the pre season don't forgot - is cooked though and should've hung em up when that happened afaic....... :shh
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Coming off an injury in the pre season don't forgot - is cooked though and should've hung em up when that happened afaic....... :shh
He is pretty much always coming off an injury
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What's the go with Tim Livingston ??. Is he having to much say etc bit of noise coming out. I have never been impressed with him. It was Balme who shook up.the footy department.
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Another year where he plays half the season .
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Okay who gets his spot and role. Dow lol, Ross even funnier. There is McAuliffe. What does that say about our recruiting.
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Gotta say im already looking at next week
Surely Kane McAuliffe gets a game,after that performance. its criminal that he is not playing seniors this week.
Reckon Sonsie should get a game next week as well. He dominated the first half but ran out of puff a bit in the last. will will be much better for the run. We are screaming out for his skills.
Naismith was very good again as well.
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We were tacking bets on when Prestia would ping the hamstring. It was mindboggling the risk would be taken.
That's what you get by paying peanuts for Peanuts. With all the issues we've had since this bloke took over fitness department. Has he got peanuts for brains?
Who is that fitness bloke we let go to the Swans because we weren't prepared or too scrared to pay the extra money?
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We were tacking bets on when Prestia would ping the hamstring. It was mindboggling the risk would be taken.
That's what you get by paying peanuts for Peanuts. With all the issues we've had since this bloke took over fitness department. Has he got peanuts for brains?
Who is that fitness bloke we let go to the Swans because we weren't prepared or too scrared to pay the extra money?
dont go there please. Someone may have a hissy fit again on the topic.
it costs us money you know, not as much as losing players and matches though :shh :shh
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Yze said the latest setback for 31-year-old Prestia, who is also out of contract at the end of this season and has a history of hamstring issues, was “shattering” but he would look to use his smarts to aid the Tigers who have lost their opening two games of the season.
“He’s got a little bit of a tendon issue and so it’s going to be 10 weeks. He’s obviously frustrated,” he said.
“He’s a quality person, a quality player and a leader of our footy club. He’ll help our midfield … he’s a smart player, he’ll help with our stoppage set-ups.
“We can’t wait to get him back later in the year.”
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-richmond-vicecaptain-liam-bakers-wa-house-purchase-raises-questions-about-future/news-story/8c3d62a20e5a6e9e1abd43dea12981fd)