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Title: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: taztiger4 on August 29, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
Williams,Williams,Lade,Mellor & Smith

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-dump-five-coaches-as-afl-killing-season-erupts-20160829-gr40hd.html
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: The Machine on August 29, 2016, 08:25:30 PM
Good.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: wayne on August 29, 2016, 08:27:38 PM
Hardwick next please  :pray
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 29, 2016, 08:27:55 PM
Williams,Williams,Lade,Mellor & Smith

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-dump-five-coaches-as-afl-killing-season-erupts-20160829-gr40hd.html

Interesting
More to go tomorrow
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 29, 2016, 08:28:07 PM
Problem solved.
 :clapping
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: mat073 on August 29, 2016, 08:28:15 PM
Getting rid of that Port Adelaide connection.  :clapping
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 29, 2016, 08:29:42 PM
Hardwick next please  :pray

He is staying
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 29, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
So what.

It's like picking off a bit of the scab
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 29, 2016, 08:43:41 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_gCSBhcRPks/UAKAaycaYZI/AAAAAAAABs0/aAxiOVERYa8/s1600/20120706_miles_ddispatch.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: the claw on August 29, 2016, 08:44:14 PM
Jackson, Richardson and Hartley should have been the first gone.I wonder if they are hoping this little bit of  needed activity will distract from what the priority axings should be. 
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: DCrane on August 29, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
Why stop there?
Might as well sack Hardwick too.
What is the point of having him infect our new assistants with his 'brand' of footy, which consists of copying styles of footy that don't suit the team or that are way past their use by date, when he will probably get sacked half way through next year anyway.
It could get ugly and leave these fresh assistants exposed. Just sack him now.



Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: DCrane on August 29, 2016, 09:08:40 PM
Also, I hope Ernst and Young have recommended that someone different hires the assistants this time.
And how funny is the line by Caro that Francis Jackson is under pressure? Really, 3 first round picks playing in the reserves, he should have been the first one shown the door.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 29, 2016, 09:12:26 PM
Also, I hope Ernst and Young have recommended that someone different hires the assistants this time.
And how funny is the line by Caro that Francis Jackson is under pressure? Really, 3 first round picks playing in the reserves, he should have been the first one shown the door.

Great post
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on August 29, 2016, 09:23:48 PM
#DimmaIsCancer
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 29, 2016, 09:29:36 PM
Tiges leaking article to Caro first
Interesting
Fox Footy and Channel
7 will have to cancel there " punt Rd car park stop
" tomorrow
Although players find out there fate in the morning
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: DCrane on August 29, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Although players find out there fate in the morning

What are the whispers Jack?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 29, 2016, 09:31:16 PM
Omg.

It won't make a difference as long as stuffwit is coaching.
Title: Richmond Tigers dump five coaches (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 29, 2016, 09:31:37 PM
Richmond Tigers dump five coaches

Caroline Wilson
The Age
29 August 8:00pm


The shake-up at Richmond has begun with five assistant coaches expunged from their regular roles in the club's end-of-season reviews and strongly encouraged to seek opportunities elsewhere.

Port Adelaide premiership coach Mark Williams, Ross Smith, Brendon Lade, former Carlton and Footscray player Mark P. Williams and forwards coach Greg Mellor were not required to report for work at Tigerland on Monday. All five are out of contract.

Although the Tigers have guaranteed the contracted coach Damien Hardwick for at least one more season, the club has reacted savagely to its dismal 2016 season and will move to reshape its recruiting, development and assistant coaching personnel.

Although the final outcomes of the Ernst and Young review into the club's struggling football operation have not been tabled the above assistant coaches have known for some time that they could not be guaranteed contracts beyond the end of the season which for Richmond concluded with a 100-plus point loss to Sydney on Saturday.

Neither chief executive Brendon Gale nor football boss Daniel Richardson could be contacted on Monday as the review entered its final days.

Further dismissals are expected with calls for the club to consider bringing Neil Balme from Collingwood to mentor the less experienced Richardson.

Balme has been demoted by Collingwood and both him and the Magpies list manager Derek Hine have been left disenchanted with the appointment of Graeme Allan to the role of director of football — a move the club bosses had denied to them would happen after Allan returned to the Magpies in May.

However Brisbane, searching for an experienced director of football, has shown some interest in Balme and CEO Greg Swann is expected to contact his former Collingwood colleague in the coming days.

Richmond's recruiting manager Francis Jackson is also under pressure.

It remains unclear where the replacements in the coaching department will come from, although one possible new face looms in the recently retired Troy Chaplin. The pending dismissals signal a savage reaction to what has been identified as poor development of players.

Williams, who came to the club from GWS, has headed up the development program at the club.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-dump-five-coaches-as-afl-killing-season-erupts-20160829-gr40hd.html
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 29, 2016, 09:33:52 PM
Why stop there?
Might as well sack Hardwick too.
What is the point of having him infect our new assistants with his 'brand' of footy, which consists of copying styles of footy that don't suit the team or that are way past their use by date, when he will probably get sacked half way through next year anyway.
It could get ugly and leave these fresh assistants exposed. Just sack him now.

It's a huge stuffn rort.

Remove all the little germs but leave the queens.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 29, 2016, 09:34:53 PM
What a dog hardwick is. .
Throwing the blokes he wanted under a bus because he can accept that he's stuffed it more than anyone.

Total disrespect for this prck
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 1965 on August 29, 2016, 09:36:58 PM
What a dog hardwick is. .
Throwing the blokes he wanted under a bus because he can accept that he's stuffed it more than anyone.

Total disrespect for this prck


Sheedy did this for 25 years.





Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 29, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
It's a start :clapping
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Harry on August 29, 2016, 10:00:39 PM
What a dog hardwick is. .
Throwing the blokes he wanted under a bus because he can accept that he's stuffed it more than anyone.

Total disrespect for this prck


Sheedy did this for 25 years.

Sheedy won a few finals also. 

At least Troy Chaplin doesn't need to be brought up to speed with the game plan.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Willy on August 29, 2016, 10:02:41 PM
It's a start :clapping

Yep, good start.

May the axe swing long into this week!
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 29, 2016, 10:06:21 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Willy on August 29, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Yep. Fingers crossed.

Anyone heard any word on his future?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 29, 2016, 10:14:18 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Yep. Fingers crossed.

Anyone heard any word on his future?
Goneski but may be after the draft. Hartley too.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on August 29, 2016, 10:17:06 PM
What a dog hardwick is. .
Throwing the blokes he wanted under a bus because he can accept that he's stuffed it more than anyone.

Total disrespect for this prck


Sheedy did this for 25 years.

Sheedy won a few finals also. 

At least Troy Chaplin doesn't need to be brought up to speed with the game plan.

Another 5 yrs pointing at rance saying try harder
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 29, 2016, 10:29:33 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Yep. Fingers crossed.

Anyone heard any word on his future?
Goneski but may be after the draft. Hartley too.

Just guessing? Can't see Hartley going but that's just a guess
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 29, 2016, 10:33:16 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Yep. Fingers crossed.

Anyone heard any word on his future?
Goneski but may be after the draft. Hartley too.

Just guessing? Can't see Hartley going but that's just a guess
I've heard whispers. Not great sources though. However, you'd have to say that he is the mastermind of our predicament and the review would not have been kind to him.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Willy on August 29, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
Francois Hackson. The big name I'm waiting to hear what happens to

The rest is noise for me until this dud goes.

Yep. Fingers crossed.

Anyone heard any word on his future?
Goneski but may be after the draft. Hartley too.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: TigerMonk on August 29, 2016, 10:39:07 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 29, 2016, 10:54:42 PM

I've heard whispers. Not great sources though. However, you'd have to say that he is the mastermind of our predicament and the review would not have been kind to him.

Don't think I can argue with that but it'll be interesting to see if that's what the RFC will believe :shh
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 29, 2016, 11:03:18 PM
Sacking Hartley & Hackson after trade week & the draft?

A bit like putting the rubber on after sex.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 29, 2016, 11:05:52 PM
Sacking Hartley & Hackson after trade week & the draft?

A bit like putting the rubber on after sex.

Well why would you put it on bef......ohhhhh  :-\
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Harry on August 29, 2016, 11:11:32 PM
Sacking Hartley & Hackson after trade week & the draft?

A bit like putting the rubber on after sex.

correct.  why would they now give a stuff?  It's like when you give notice at work, you spend the last 4 weeks surfing the net, at the pub or taking extra long dumps in the toilet
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 29, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
Only at Tigerland.

Most other footy clubs sack their coach if the side doesn't play well, in our case we sack his assistants and keep the senior coach? Baffling to say the least.

Probably fair enough too, it's most likely their fault that after 7 years we cannot even win 1 final.

Well played RFC.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: tdy on August 29, 2016, 11:40:30 PM
If they were gonna sack jackson and hartley wouldn't it have made sense 12 weeks ago so your new recruiting team has some time to get up to speed.  The way Caro puts it the review reckons the problem is in development which may be right. Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on August 29, 2016, 11:45:12 PM
Pack
Of
Morons
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: RedanTiger on August 29, 2016, 11:53:49 PM
Only at Tigerland.

Most other footy clubs sack their coach if the side doesn't play well, in our case we sack his assistants and keep the senior coach? Baffling to say the least.

Probably fair enough too, it's most likely their fault that after 7 years we cannot even win 1 final.

Well played RFC.

The other point is that we are probably looking at getting rid of Vickery, Conca, Edwards, B Ellis and Lennon with talk of Lids and Jack.
I would say that every one of those players has shown enough talent over the journey to be good senior players at any other club.
So we decide to move on all those players and keep the coach that has caused the damage.

This board, its stupid decision and stubbornness in refusing to rectify it  is costing us in terms of players and money.
Sack the bloody cause of the problem - the senior coach and the board.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 1980 on August 30, 2016, 12:28:31 AM
Typical gutless cynical Richmond.

Blame the Indians so as to cover the ars of the Chiefs.

Same mistakes covered up over and over again. Never learn a thing.

And we let them get away with it every time.

Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 30, 2016, 12:50:52 AM
If they were gonna sack jackson and hartley wouldn't it have made sense 12 weeks ago so your new recruiting team has some time to get up to speed.  The way Caro puts it the review reckons the problem is in development which may be right. Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

Injuries. But I get your point
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2016, 06:17:41 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 30, 2016, 06:22:08 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: eliminator on August 30, 2016, 06:23:20 AM
Recruiting staff should be the next to go.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 30, 2016, 07:43:12 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017
I want to like this kid but let's be honest, he is as weak as pis5.. We are littered with guys that refuse and simply cannot tackle properly.
He has a lot of work to do IMO.
It's ok to be a good kick but if he ends up another Houli we are stuffed!!
WE NEED TO DRAFT COMPETITIVE BEASTS. NOT SHY SOFT BOYS.

The Melbourne footy club realised they had to do this about 4 years ago and have recruited really well in this department with some real tough completative kids coming through.
IMO they will make the finals next year.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: tdy on August 30, 2016, 07:54:29 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017

Ah I did not know he was injured.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 30, 2016, 07:55:22 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017
I want to like this kid but let's be honest, he is as weak as pis5.. We are littered with guys that refuse and simply cannot tackle properly.
He has a lot of work to do IMO.
It's ok to be a good kick but if he ends up another Houli we are stuffed!!
WE NEED TO DRAFT COMPETITIVE BEASTS. NOT SHY SOFT BOYS.

The Melbourne footy club realised they had to do this about 4 years ago and have recruited really well in this department with some real tough completative kids coming through.
IMO they will make the finals next year.

Like Morris and Hunt hey
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 30, 2016, 07:56:34 AM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017
I want to like this kid but let's be honest, he is as weak as pis5.. We are littered with guys that refuse and simply cannot tackle properly.
He has a lot of work to do IMO.
It's ok to be a good kick but if he ends up another Houli we are stuffed!!
WE NEED TO DRAFT COMPETITIVE BEASTS. NOT SHY SOFT BOYS.

The Melbourne footy club realised they had to do this about 4 years ago and have recruited really well in this department with some real tough completative kids coming through.
IMO they will make the finals next year.

Way ahead of Lennon
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: wayne on August 30, 2016, 08:08:18 AM
Hardwick next please  :pray

He is staying

Makes sense.

Get new assistants in, sack Dimma after we're 1-7 and the new coach is stuck with a bunch of assistant coaches he doesn't want.

 :help
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: tony_montana on August 30, 2016, 08:14:07 AM
Hardwick next please  :pray

He is staying

Makes sense.

Get new assistants in, sack Dimma after we're 1-7 and the new coach is stuck with a bunch of assistant coaches he doesn't want.

 :help

 :lol pee-er isnt it?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 30, 2016, 08:31:02 AM
Latest rumour Voss has been interviewed for an assistants role

That would be a great start, I mean he has done so well at his previous 2 clubs in a coaching role
Title: Re: Richmond Tigers dump five coaches (Age)
Post by: Penelope on August 30, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
Richmond Tigers dump five coaches

Caroline Wilson
The Age
29 August 8:00pm

Further dismissals are expected with calls for the club to consider bringing Neil Balme from Collingwood to mentor the less experienced Richardson.

Balme has been demoted by Collingwood and both him and the Magpies list manager Derek Hine have been left disenchanted with the appointment of Graeme Allan to the role of director of football — a move the club bosses had denied to them would happen after Allan returned to the Magpies in May.


We dont have a director of football (although I thought that was Tony Frees role for a while. ?)

At collingwood, Balme was director of football.

The football manager is someone by the name of Marcus Wagner
Title: Re: Richmond Tigers dump five coaches (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2016, 01:31:32 PM
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We dont have a director of football (although I thought that was Tony Frees role for a while. ?)

At collingwood, Balme was director of football.

The football manager is someone by the name of Marcus Wagner

Tony Free is the board member "responsible" for footy so is/was called referred to as the Footy Director not Director of Football

Balme doesn't sit on the pies baord just like Free isnt a paid employee of the club.

The equivalent role at the RFC is the GM of Football being Richardson. Bascially head honcho of the footy department

We currently dont have a footy manager as such. 
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Penelope on August 30, 2016, 01:37:45 PM
i never said balme sat on the board. where does that come from

Quote
Football Department

Neil Balme - Director of Football

Marcus Wagner - Football Operations Manager
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/staff

Quote
General Manager of Football    Dan Richardson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

Football operations manager and general manager of football are basically the same things



Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2016, 01:41:07 PM

Quote
General Manager of Football    Dan Richardson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

Football operations manager and general manager of football are basically the same things

Not at Richmond,  GM of Footy is the equivalent of a Director of Footy at other clubs (source B Gale at a function)

We don't have a footy ops manager, Richardson covers that role, again as per Gale
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 30, 2016, 01:47:14 PM
Why is it, that people who have stuffed this club NOW get the chance to stuff it again, with their inept
Judgement and egotistical justifications?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 30, 2016, 01:48:12 PM
Would Balme be a good pick up for the club?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 30, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
Blame is probably ok to hire but bear in mind it was a long time ago he kicked any goals
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 30, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Blame is probably ok to hire but bear in mind it was a long time ago he kicked any goals
But he can still belt the living daylights out of those Carltank players.... :clapping
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Penelope on August 30, 2016, 02:09:54 PM

Quote
General Manager of Football    Dan Richardson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members

Football operations manager and general manager of football are basically the same things

Not at Richmond,  GM of Footy is the equivalent of a Director of Footy at other clubs (source B Gale at a function)

We don't have a footy ops manager, Richardson covers that role, again as per Gale
lmao
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: RedanTiger on August 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Not at Richmond,  GM of Footy is the equivalent of a Director of Footy at other clubs (source B Gale at a function)

We don't have a footy ops manager, Richardson covers that role, again as per Gale

Football Department

General Manager of Football Dan Richardson -  SACK
General Manager of Player Personnel & List Management Blair "BJ" Hartley - SACK
Head of Coaching & Football Performance Tim Livingstone - SACK

Wonder if we could organise it so Balme would take over Livingstone's job.
Would be a much closer fit to what we want by that job description.
I understand people want to sack Dan but I think his job should be what he's used to - contracts and organisational.
Balme's should be what he's best at and what he's used to - Coaching and performance.
Obviously Balme would have a lot more power and independence (reporting direct to the board) given to him than the current job while Dan's role would be diluted.
It would be similar to the COO and CFO roles.
COO - Chief Operating Officer
CFO - Chief Financial Officer

Livingstone was promoted from Player Development to his current role and you would have to say he's failing badly by that job title.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 30, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017
I want to like this kid but let's be honest, he is as weak as pis5.. We are littered with guys that refuse and simply cannot tackle properly.
He has a lot of work to do IMO.
It's ok to be a good kick but if he ends up another Houli we are stuffed!!
WE NEED TO DRAFT COMPETITIVE BEASTS. NOT SHY SOFT BOYS.

The Melbourne footy club realised they had to do this about 4 years ago and have recruited really well in this department with some real tough completative kids coming through.
IMO they will make the finals next year.

Like Morris and Hunt hey
Hunt isnt any of those things I think we should be after.
And as much as Morris has limitations, I'd play him before Houli, Grigg or Hunt everyday of the week.
And to be totally honest I'd get rid of the lot of them today if possible.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 30, 2016, 02:36:39 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 30, 2016, 04:03:21 PM
Townsend still has a year to run on his contract....Moore should be the first gone but given he was getting games at the end of the season (not to mention the idiotic extensions we've been handing out recently), I have bad feeling we'll be stupid enough to re-sign him...
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
Wonder if we could organise it so Balme would take over Livingstone's job.

I'd prefer Balme to take over Richardson's job
 
Richardson to take over from Hartley; more his area

Quote
Livingstone was promoted from Player Development to his current role and you would have to say he's failing badly by that job title.

Yep would look at moving him back to development though my gut feel is he might be goneskis too

As for my mate Blair

Bye ;D
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?


Maric hasn't retired unless I've missed something

Been no announcement

Townsend still has a year to run on his contract....Moore should be the first gone but given he was getting games at the end of the season (not to mention the idiotic extensions we've been handing out recently), I have bad feeling we'll be stupid enough re-sign him...

Correct Townsend was signed for 2 year

But if it isn't a big contract $$ wise you could delist him and use it on a kid
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: the claw on August 30, 2016, 06:59:29 PM
Why isn't C Ellis a gun player by now or at least a regular. We know he can kick well.

C Ellis  :huh3

2nd year in the system? Been injured the 2nd half of this season and missed a number of games. So he wasn't exactly available

Extremely harsh singling this kid  :-\

Class footballer
Smart
Put his head over the ball
In starting 18 in 2017

Everyone does nothing but talk the kids up.
Two or three  things jump out and hit ya that are not great about this kid but i will leave it for someone else to cop the abuse that will come for mentioning them.

All i will say is there is no guarantee he will become a top line player,  i wont go as far to say he wont make it,  that call will have to wait   a couple of years and we see what he can produce.  in a few years we will know for sure if hes good enough or not.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: tdy on August 30, 2016, 07:55:35 PM
Ok I'll bite.
To me he looked slow and didn't get possessions when he first arrived. But looking at his stats this year he has increased his possession count until his injury. Speed can also be illusory and might have been due to inexperience. Sayin all that he hasn't stood out like Martin Cotch or rioli did in their first years or year in rioli s case.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: The Machine on August 30, 2016, 08:16:02 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.


Young Soldo signed a 3 year rookie contract so will be at the club next year.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 30, 2016, 09:08:59 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?


Maric hasn't retired unless I've missed something

Been no announcement

Townsend still has a year to run on his contract....Moore should be the first gone but given he was getting games at the end of the season (not to mention the idiotic extensions we've been handing out recently), I have bad feeling we'll be stupid enough re-sign him...

Correct Townsend was signed for 2 year

But if it isn't a big contract $$ wise you could delist him and use it on a kid
Yer Maric will get a 5 year deal.
We went down the Hampson path for a reason and it's not because he is a decent player- it's because Maric has a fork in him, he is done.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 30, 2016, 09:12:01 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.


Young Soldo signed a 3 year rookie contract so will be at the club next year.
Leppa had a contract too.
I'd make a call to Balwyn and see if they have room for him to develop there.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: georgies31 on August 30, 2016, 09:42:11 PM
Only at Richmond all the assistant's get sacked and the senior coach stays laughable when he is the main man  :banghead.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Tiger Tragic on August 30, 2016, 10:43:36 PM
Only at Richmond all the assistant's get sacked and the senior coach stays laughable when he is the main man  :banghead.

Only at Richmond do coaches get sacked one day and have 1 year deals on the table the next day.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 30, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
Only at Richmond all the assistant's get sacked and the senior coach stays laughable when he is the main man  :banghead.

Unaccountable loser.

SHuffling the cards for another bad deal.

Like all the other duds-He Chose them!!

Further proof, not that we needed any, of the incompetence due to basic cluelessness
at a professional level.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: one-eyed on August 31, 2016, 03:56:54 AM
Richmond assistant coaches left in limbo

AFL.com.au
30 August 2016



RICHMOND'S assistant coaches are yet to be told their fates as the club waits on a comprehensive review of its football department to be completed.

As of Monday night, one Tigers assistant AFL.com.au spoke to was still unaware if he would be at the club in 2017.

The assistants, who started their player reviews last week, were not required to continue those duties on Monday as players were off-site for their end-of-season Mad Monday at a Richmond bar.

It was reported on Monday night that five Richmond assistants – Brendon Lade, Ross Smith, premiership coach Mark Williams, Greg Mellor and Mark P. Williams – had been removed from their roles in end-of-season reviews.   

Lade's manager, Craig Kelly of TLA Australia, said it was still possible the midfield stoppages coach would be with the club in 2017.   

"The club has offered us a one-year deal and also given us permission to look at the market," Kelly told AFL.com.au.

"There will be a timeframe to look at those options but if not there will be a one-year offer on the table."

While players are expected to learn of their futures by late this week, the Tigers do not have a timeframe to confirm changes to their off-field personnel.

Richmond has been undertaking a wide-ranging review with the help of accounting firm Ernst and Young as it deals with the fallout from an eight-win season that ended with an uncompetitive 113-point loss to the Sydney Swans.

Coach Damien Hardwick had his contract extended until the end of 2018 back in March, but the majority of his assistant coaches were left without guaranteed deals beyond this season.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-30/richmond-assistant-coaches-left-in-limbo
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on August 31, 2016, 11:15:53 AM
Half pregnant

Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 31, 2016, 11:29:38 AM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.

So who do you replace Soldo with?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 31, 2016, 11:41:52 AM
Zac Clarke if the rumours are true....

Him & Hamspud in the same side....can't wait..... :gotigers
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Willy on August 31, 2016, 11:45:46 AM
Zac Clarke if the rumours are true....

Him & Hamspud in the same side....can't wait..... :gotigers

Geez, please no.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Penelope on August 31, 2016, 11:45:57 AM
One potato, two potato.....
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 31, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
Zac Dawson anyone?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 31, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
So, we are how many days in and how many have been comprehensively fired?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 31, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
All got one year deals if no-one else wants them.....and Ben Lennon has asked to leave....
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 31, 2016, 04:47:05 PM
So, we are how many days in and how many have been comprehensively fired?

4 days and 0 firings
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 31, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
All got one year deals if no-one else wants them.....and Ben Lennon has asked to leave....

What a poohole of a company.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Penelope on August 31, 2016, 04:48:37 PM
All got one year deals if no-one else wants them.....and Ben Lennon has asked to leave....

...and Neil Balme said no thanks. Dereck Hine not even returning calls
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 31, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
The club is run worse than a division 4 country league club

L-M-F-A-O

Keep an eye out for the chook raffle
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Diocletian on August 31, 2016, 04:54:42 PM
All got one year deals if no-one else wants them.....and Ben Lennon has asked to leave....

...and Neil Balme said no thanks. Dereck Hine not even returning calls

...and now Prestia's dropped out....
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on August 31, 2016, 04:56:14 PM
All got one year deals if no-one else wants them.....and Ben Lennon has asked to leave....

...and Neil Balme said no thanks. Dereck Hine not even returning calls

Wow.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: big tone on August 31, 2016, 08:05:27 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.

So who do you replace Soldo with?
Anyone that can actually play the game at a decent level.
Jobs for mates/cousins
Soldo is a putrid footballer
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Yeahright on August 31, 2016, 11:46:14 PM
Other than Maric, Chaplin and McKenzie all retired who else do we think will be delisted?

All the duds I'd hoped for have contracts. Houli, Grigg, Hunt, Hampson

I'd say Soldo and Marcon should go. Both not AFL standard and never will be IMO.

And maybe Townsend and Moore.

So who do you replace Soldo with?
Anyone that can actually play the game at a decent level.
Jobs for mates/cousins
Soldo is a putrid footballer

Isn't a great look hiring someone because he's a players cousin but I think you may expect a bit much from a category B rookie
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: georgies31 on September 01, 2016, 06:37:04 AM
Sacked one day then offered 1 year deals and can explore options.FFS make the hard calls sack them all with Dimma an d make hard decsions I have no faith in these ppl running the club.Clowns !!!!!.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: tony_montana on September 01, 2016, 10:10:01 AM
mind boggling -
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on September 01, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
Sacked one day then offered 1 year deals and can explore options.FFS make the hard calls sack them all with Dimma an d make hard decsions I have no faith in these ppl running the club.Clowns !!!!!.

They've all been offered i year?

FMD.
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on September 01, 2016, 10:20:45 AM
Sacked one day then offered 1 year deals and can explore options.FFS make the hard calls sack them all with Dimma an d make hard decsions I have no faith in these ppl running the club.Clowns !!!!!.

They've all been offered i year?

FMD.

Lade has been

Circus fc
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 01, 2016, 03:16:23 PM
Sacked one day then offered 1 year deals and can explore options.FFS make the hard calls sack them all with Dimma an d make hard decsions I have no faith in these ppl running the club.Clowns !!!!!.

They've all been offered i year?

FMD.

Lade has been

Circus fc

Imposters the lot of em.
Title: 'Choco' among three Tiger assistant coaches dumped (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
'Choco' among three Tiger assistants dumped

Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
September 1, 2016


RICHMOND has dumped three assistant coaches as part of its football department reshape, with premiership coach Mark Williams shown the door.

Williams, who joined the Tigers at the end of 2012 to head up the club's development program, was joined by forwards coach Greg Mellor and defensive coordinator Ross Smith.

All three were out of contract and victims of a wide-ranging review into the club's football department undertaken with the help of accounting firm Ernst and Young.

"We thank all of these coaches for their commitment to the club, its players and our football program, and we wish all of them and their families the very best for their future endeavours," football manager Dan Richardson said.

Former Carlton and Footscray player Mark P. Williams survived the initial cull, while assistant coach Brendon Lade is understood to have a one-year offer to stay.

"The club has offered us a one-year deal and also given us permission to look at the market," Lade's manager Craig Kelly told AFL.com.au this week.

Also remaining as part of the Tigers' senior panel is highly-rated assistant Ben Rutten, who they are keen to retain.

Development coaches Andrew McQualter, Ryan Ferguson remain with the club, while retired defender Troy Chaplin has been transitioning into coaching since his last game in round 16.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-01/mark-williams-among-three-richmond-assistant-coaches-shown-the-door
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 01, 2016, 05:51:37 PM
Lol club still raiding through Myer bargain basement sales  :shh
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on September 01, 2016, 05:54:31 PM
We thank all of these coaches for their commitment to the club, its players and our football program, and we wish all of them and their families the very best for their future endeavours," football manager Dan Richardson said.


L M A O
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 01, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
Dangerous Dan with his usual poomouth
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: TigerLand on September 01, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Taking off rose coloured 'hate Hardwick' glasses for a second.

It there any possible chance that any sporting organisation sack the lot of their middle management 'assistant coaches' and not the head coach and be successful the next year.

We have next to know chance to implement a new game plan under a new regime that is lead by the old boss. Hardwick will be sacked by August next year. Making next year as pointless as Essendons year this year. Just effing sack him, bring in Ratten or Thompson or Roos and let them build THEIR assistants around them.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Diocletian on September 01, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
'Choco' among three Tiger assistants dumped

Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
September 1, 2016


RICHMOND has dumped three assistant coaches as part of its football department reshape, with premiership coach Mark Williams shown the door.

Williams, who joined the Tigers at the end of 2012 to head up the club's development program, was joined by forwards coach Greg Mellor and defensive coordinator Ross Smith.

All three were out of contract and victims of a wide-ranging review into the club's football department undertaken with the help of accounting firm Ernst and Young.

"We thank all of these coaches for their commitment to the club, its players and our football program, and we wish all of them and their families the very best for their future endeavours," football manager Dan Richardson said.

Former Carlton and Footscray player Mark P. Williams survived the initial cull, while assistant coach Brendon Lade is understood to have a one-year offer to stay.

"The club has offered us a one-year deal and also given us permission to look at the market," Lade's manager Craig Kelly told AFL.com.au this week.

Also remaining as part of the Tigers' senior panel is highly-rated assistant Ben Rutten, who they are keen to retain.

Development coaches Andrew McQualter, Ryan Ferguson remain with the club, while retired defender Troy Chaplin has been transitioning into coaching since his last game in round 16.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-01/mark-williams-among-three-richmond-assistant-coaches-shown-the-door


FACT. :clapping :gotigers  :clapping
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Simonator on September 01, 2016, 07:48:30 PM
Why was chocco sacked ? Though he was doing well. Obviously had a big influence on martin
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: The Machine on September 01, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Why was chocco sacked ? Though he was doing well. Obviously had a big influence on martin


Head of development says it all I'm afraid. Did well with Martin but couldn't develop others with his old style teaching.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Simonator on September 01, 2016, 08:28:43 PM
Why was chocco sacked ? Though he was doing well. Obviously had a big influence on martin


Head of development says it all I'm afraid. Did well with Martin but couldn't develop others with his old style teaching.

Is that FACT ? Or speculation ?
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 01, 2016, 08:43:24 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: The Machine on September 01, 2016, 08:44:44 PM
Well it's not speculation from my point of view, however was/is well liked amongst the group but time to move on.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: The Machine on September 01, 2016, 08:58:27 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.


Lade is rated very highly believe it or not......
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 01, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.

Cant totally understand the board challenge now
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: blaisee on September 01, 2016, 09:44:13 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.


Lade is rated very highly believe it or not......
hopefully by port, so he can Fack off
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 01, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
Reading through this thread is the best entertainment, I just need some popcorn
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on September 01, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.


Lade is rated very highly believe it or not......

Lade has no idea
Bailed him up at the airport after the Port smashing us in the final a years back
He said the captain kicked with the wind
FNI
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 02, 2016, 12:33:41 AM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.


Lade is rated very highly believe it or not......

And what do you think?
Title: Re: 5 assistants gone
Post by: Stalin on September 02, 2016, 09:51:10 AM
Sacked one day then offered 1 year deals and can explore options.FFS make the hard calls sack them all with Dimma an d make hard decsions I have no faith in these ppl running the club.Clowns !!!!!.

They've all been offered i year?

FMD.

Lade has been

Circus fc

Imposters the lot of em.

Worlds softest sporting organisation?

Mind boggling
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: georgies31 on September 02, 2016, 11:22:28 AM
Were do you start we a worse then a circus or a amature club.How does the other Williams survive? ? Mind blowing and Lade Dimmas side kick ??.Development coaches to this board and football department a clueless we need that challenge at board.The club has lost me no direction and no faith.One minute there all gone now offered 1 year deals 2 of them.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 02, 2016, 11:25:27 AM
Were do you start we a worse then a circus or a amature club.How does the other Williams survive? ? Mind blowing and Lade Dimmas side kick ??.Development coaches to this board and football department a clueless we need that challenge at board.The club has lost me no direction and no faith.One minute there all gone now offered 1 year deals 2 of them.
Lol. We can't even sack properly! :lol
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Stalin on September 02, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Were do you start we a worse then a circus or a amature club.How does the other Williams survive? ? Mind blowing and Lade Dimmas side kick ??.Development coaches to this board and football department a clueless we need that challenge at board.The club has lost me no direction and no faith.One minute there all gone now offered 1 year deals 2 of them.
Lol. We can't even sack properly! :lol

It wouldn't be stable to sack without a plan b
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Yeahright on September 02, 2016, 04:42:39 PM
Totally mind boggling that our administration are offering Lade another year if he wants it. The depth of incompetency and indecision, flip flopping is staggering.


Lade is rated very highly believe it or not......

Lade has no idea
Bailed him up at the airport after the Port smashing us in the final a years back
He said the captain kicked with the wind
FNI

stuff I'm sure everyone there must love you, can't even get on a plane or go to training without you stalking them
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: tony_montana on September 02, 2016, 04:43:56 PM
Were do you start we a worse then a circus or a amature club.How does the other Williams survive? ? Mind blowing and Lade Dimmas side kick ??.Development coaches to this board and football department a clueless we need that challenge at board.The club has lost me no direction and no faith.One minute there all gone now offered 1 year deals 2 of them.
Lol. We can't even sack properly! :lol

It wouldn't be stable to sack without a plan b

we have a plan B for that
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on September 02, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
If these duds can't be sacked outright then they had insurance clauses in their contracts to the betterment of their own well being.

More inept admin from a board of Lawyers.

LMAO U stuffn morons.
Title: 'It was a bit awkward': Mark Williams surprised by Tigers sacking (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on September 16, 2016, 06:30:41 PM
'It was a bit awkward': Mark Williams surprised by Tigers sacking

afl.com.au
September 16, 2016


FORMER Richmond assistant coach Mark Williams is surprised he wasn't offered a contract by the club for the 2017 season.

Williams was one of three support staff let go by the Tigers at the end of the season, ending a four-year tenure as head development coach.

"That was their decision, it was a bit tough," he told SEN radio on Friday morning.

"Based on my role and what I had done, I thought that I had done a pretty good job. And they all said that."

The 2004 premiership-winning Port Adelaide coach was told his contract would not be renewed during a telephone conversation with the Tigers' football manager while he was interstate for a funeral.

"It was a bit awkward," he said.

"I had a previous meeting where it was indicated I might have to take a pay cut and maybe a change of role. But it didn't eventuate that way."

Williams says he has spoken to several AFL clubs, but was struggling to lock in a position for next season with a cap on football department spending.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-16/it-was-a-bit-awkward-mark-williams-surprised-by-tigers-sacking
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: TigerMonk on September 16, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
Never got a contract because of conflict  ;D
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: big tone on September 16, 2016, 08:16:36 PM
I have no problem with him being given the arse, but over the phone!! He deserved better than that. This club is just poo at the moment! It's been the worst year all round that I can remember. One poo call after another.
Title: Re: 3 assistants gone - Choco, Mellor & Smith [updated]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 16, 2016, 08:41:57 PM
Lets burn our memberships