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Title: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 09, 2006, 06:44:41 PM
The RFC site is running a new poll asking how many games do you think Richmond will win in the 2006 season? 

The response so far is:
 
Less than 5: 1%
6 - 8: 7%
9 - 11: 30%
12 - 14: 42%
15 or more:  18%

Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 09, 2006, 08:30:06 PM
I'll admit to being one of the 42%  ;D :gotigers
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 09, 2006, 11:27:22 PM
I went with the 30%. We're still mostly a young side so IMHO the youngsters will probably need another year of experience at AFL level before they hit their straps collectively. Finals in 2007+ :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Razorblade on January 09, 2006, 11:33:39 PM
I'm thinking 9-11 aswell.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 10, 2006, 01:23:31 AM
I went with the 30%. We're still mostly a young side so IMHO the youngsters will probably need another year of experience at AFL level before they hit their straps collectively. Finals in 2007+ :thumbsup.

2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

2007+ = Bowden, Brown, Johnson etc. getting rather old
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: blx on January 10, 2006, 11:17:59 AM
2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

totally fine with the natural elimination of older players in fact i'm strangely looking forward to the day that we no longer need to rely on the richo's, gaspars and kellaways and start blooding the next generation of tiges.

bling it on  :thumbsup

(love all the new avatars)

 :jump
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 10, 2006, 06:32:22 PM
2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

Agree with blx. If we are still reliant on these three in 2 years time then we have not progressed at all.

Barring major injury, Bowden, Johnson and Browny still have a few years at their prime left in them. Playing mostly on flanks and in pockets as the youngsters take over the leading midfield roles will prolong their careers also.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: bluey_21 on January 11, 2006, 04:37:42 PM
2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

Agree with blx. If we are still reliant on these three in 2 years time then we have not progressed at all.

Barring major injury, Bowden, Johnson and Browny still have a few years at their prime left in them. Playing mostly on flanks and in pockets as the youngsters take over the leading midfield roles will prolong their careers also.

I reckon Richo will still be around by 2007, will probably be playing an Alastair Lynch type role though
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Moi on January 11, 2006, 05:32:21 PM
I reckon about 6 - 8 if we're lucky.  Say that because of all the interstate games and the general let down after playing interstate the week after.  Be more than happy if i'm wrong.

Eff the AFL and their fixturing.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Darth Tiger on January 12, 2006, 05:25:02 PM
I reckon about 6 - 8 if we're lucky.  Say that because of all the interstate games and the general let down after playing interstate the week after.  Be more than happy if i'm wrong.

Eff the AFL and their fixturing.

Yep, agree that this years fixture is a challenge to increase total wins, therefore predict 8 wins, and considerable development of the 2nd & 3rd year listed players.

Building, Building, Building ...
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Captain__Blood on January 12, 2006, 06:00:49 PM
2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

Agree with blx. If we are still reliant on these three in 2 years time then we have not progressed at all.

Barring major injury, Bowden, Johnson and Browny still have a few years at their prime left in them. Playing mostly on flanks and in pockets as the youngsters take over the leading midfield roles will prolong their careers also.

I reckon Richo will still be around by 2007, will probably be playing an Alastair Lynch type role though

Doubt his body will hold out for another 2 years let alone Lynch style.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 13, 2006, 03:03:26 AM
2007+ = no more Richo, Gaspar, Kellaway

Agree with blx. If we are still reliant on these three in 2 years time then we have not progressed at all.

Barring major injury, Bowden, Johnson and Browny still have a few years at their prime left in them. Playing mostly on flanks and in pockets as the youngsters take over the leading midfield roles will prolong their careers also.

I reckon Richo will still be around by 2007, will probably be playing an Alastair Lynch type role though

Doubt his body will hold out for another 2 years let alone Lynch style.

The only real issue is his knee which needed to be drained. If we can manage Richo through that then he's still got at least a couple of years left in him.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: cub on January 13, 2006, 09:34:51 AM
Me say 12-14, but I think that remains up to luck with injuries etc .... We have a tough start, but we are sposed to be on the improve now.
I am not expecting any miracles and we could finish with as little as probably say 7 or 8 wins (This would be dissapointing to say the least).

Just hoping for another strong season and hopefully start to end these floggings we keep getting from the sides up the top and in form when we play them and end some of these blockbuster humiliations we get. Then we are on our way somewhere.

Everyone keeps pumping up the doggies, but believe me we are right with them in the speed stakes and have the bigs to complement the smalls. Bulldogs Bulldogs bla bla bla - we have more of a chance of going ALL THE WAY in the next 3-4 years.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Puntroadroar on January 13, 2006, 11:07:20 AM
I think our draw will make this year a disappointing year, if we can get past the first month with a couple of wins then we are going extremely well. If we can hit the halfway mark of the season 50/50 then I think we will come home with our tails up and full of steam.

But too many ifs for my liking and unfortunately feel 8 wins for the season is on the cards.  :-\
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 13, 2006, 06:52:40 PM
While the boys today did well following the run and carry gameplan Wallace is implementing, our skills as a whole team in sync still needs to improve before we move up the ladder. IMO still too many kicks and handballs just missing targets. Still it's only mid-January and Wallace has said himself we aren't ready to play a game of footy yet.   
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Mopsy on January 13, 2006, 09:10:37 PM
Interesting to read your analysis M.T.

Where the problems observed by you today attributable to the deliverer or the recipient or just plain both????
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 14, 2006, 06:27:47 PM
Where the problems observed by you today attributable to the deliverer or the recipient or just plain both????

I would say the deliverer Mopsy.  The only time Terry went crook at the forwards was when Pat Bowden stopped leading when he thought the other forward were in a better position to receive the ball. Terry told him you always have to keep presenting even if you're not used.

The running to position to receive the footy by either hand or foot was very good IMO. It was only drill work but we appeared to be a smarter footy side compared to last year. Some nice peripherial vision on display yesterday. The real stuff will see if that is kept up under game pressure.

Just every now and then there would be a sloppy handball which broke down the move although that improved over the session. The kicking was good in open play however the final kick inside 50 over say 30-40m would be just a tad off the mark too often for my liking given the lack of pressure compared to a real game. The occasional pass would be either just a bit too low at the feet or too high at the tips of fingers. A leading forward shouldn't either have to stop and prop to mark as if he had a defender on him the ball would be smacked away. It was a one of our main problems last year. We didn't capitalise from our inside 50s as we should had.

I was at the end where the forward set-up was so I noticed the final pass of the end-to-end move more. There was no one or two players you could point the finger at and young guys like White and Meyer didn't make a mistake. Inconsistency is the word that comes to mind more than anything else.   
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: PuntRdRoar on January 14, 2006, 09:06:20 PM
One more cleanout, one more new group to come through...Thorp Sellar whoever...Tiges are on their way...just not in 2006.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Tiger Spirit on January 17, 2006, 01:39:44 PM
While I was busy doing absolutely nothing the other week, I went through our draw and had a hard time coming up with 9 wins, which was being generous.

9 would be a reasonable result.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Razorblade on January 17, 2006, 02:07:58 PM
I just went through the draw then, i came up with 10 wins and about 4 maybe's.

For stuffing once we are playing Brisbane in Melbourne, although i would have preferred it to be at the MCG!
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: PuntRdRoar on January 17, 2006, 02:15:03 PM
When I did what you guys did recently I came up with 4 wins and 4 maybes for a maximum of 8 wins. If we only get 4 wins...do we get a priority and when is that priority available...pre first round or 2nd.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Razorblade on January 17, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
It's start of 2nd round now isn't it?

Question: Can the new priority picks be traded or are they like the old ones and are untradeable?
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 17, 2006, 04:57:20 PM
It's start of 2nd round now isn't it?

You're right Razor.

I think IIRC it becomes pre-first round if you have 2 years in a row of only 4 wins in a season.

Question: Can the new priority picks be traded or are they like the old ones and are untradeable?

The old ones were tradeable. Freo traded their priority pick (selection #1) to Hawthorn for Trent Croad lol in the 2001 super draft. Hawks then used it to pick up Luke Hodge.
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: mightytiges on January 17, 2006, 05:16:01 PM
While I was busy doing absolutely nothing the other week, I went through our draw and had a hard time coming up with 9 wins, which was being generous.

9 would be a reasonable result.


There are no certainties and there's always upset wins and losses (bloody Carlton  :scream) but when I did this I got the 6 wins + 10 other chances that could go either way on the day.

We have a good record against Sydney, our recent record over the past 2 years against the Lions at the Gabba has been good. The Freo game depends on which Freo side turns up. Same goes with the Dees. We played Melbourne when they were in their best form. With the the Roos I might be stretching it a bit as they always seem to lift just for us :banghead.   

Probables (6): Blues (x2), Bombers (x2), Hawks, Pies. 

Possibles (10): Dogs (x2), Swans (x2), Brisbane (x2), Freo, Roos, Dees, West Coast (in Melb). 

Unlikely (6): Saints (x2), West Coast (in Perth), Adelaide (last bet them in 99), Geelong, Port (at AMII).

As long as we go into every game with a winning mindset and give a competitive effort then I'll be happy. 
Title: Re: Wins in 2006?
Post by: Razorblade on January 17, 2006, 06:04:56 PM
It's start of 2nd round now isn't it?

You're right Razor.

I think IIRC it becomes pre-first round if you have 2 years in a row of only 4 wins in a season.

Question: Can the new priority picks be traded or are they like the old ones and are untradeable?

The old ones were tradeable. Freo traded their priority pick (selection #1) to Hawthorn for Trent Croad lol in the 2001 super draft. Hawks then used it to pick up Luke Hodge.
They changed the rule after that trade!