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Title: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: 🏅Dooks on January 20, 2017, 07:10:40 PM
Terrible day for Melbourne. The news in particular of children being killed and injured just breaks ones heart.

So far, 3 dead 25 injured. Many critical.

Alot unknown at this stage and things are still early on but im prepared to make 2 medium-long term calls from this.

1) this will bring into focus the police's largely 'hands off' chase policy. Multiple callers to 3aw have reported that Vic Police have been chasing the arrested culprit for most of the day, and have had ample chances to detain him. Watch the news the next few days onwards.
 
2) this will also bring into focus and perhaps form a catalyst as to the whole issues of drugs in society.

Thoughts with those fighting for life and their family and friends.
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: mightytiges on January 21, 2017, 04:15:25 AM
A 4th person has died  :(.

The killer was a complete and utter nutjob even before he committed such a evil act yesterday. He has a couple of facebook pages filled with bizarre rants and threats over recent weeks. Everything from conspiracy theories that the government is following him, being anti-police, anti-gay & anti-women, having religious delusions that he is god or like a god (apparently a follower of Yazdânism), etc ....

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Dimitrious Gargasoulas
December 30, 2016 at 12:56am ·

The next time you hear of a police officer being killed “in the line of duty,” take a moment to consider the very real possibility that maybe in that case, the “law enforcer” was the bad guy and the “cop killer” was the good guy. As it happens, that has been the case more often than not throughout human history.

stuff da police xoxoxo

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Dimitrious Gargasoulas
January 1 at 3:17pm ·

Illumamati are a whole bunch of dogs

I found out

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Dimitrious Gargasoulas
January 13 at 12:10am ·

Heaven and Hell IS REAL!!! WHO AGREES?

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Dimitrious Gargasoulas
January 14 at 1:04am ·

scientology is just science and some how some dog has intergrated a religion that is against GOD in all means is the work of satan i hold the truth and the proof and anyone who believes in either must try to come to understand this is not acceptable and shall be delt with in a seriouse manner SCIENTOLOGY IS ASSOCIATIONS OF ILLUMINATI THE DOGS WITCH ALSO ASSOCIATE WITH FREE MASON WITCH REALLY WILL DO ANYTHING IN THE POWER TO DOMINATE THE WORLD AND TAKE ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THAT WOMEN WILL RUN THE WORLD ITS UNBELIEVABLE BUT ITS TRUE AND THIS IS BECAUSE GODS LAWS ARE OVER WRITTEN BY HUMAN LAWS

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Dimitrious Gargasoulas
January 16 at 1:32pm ·

I DECLARE WAR ON TYRANNY TODAY YOU DOGS WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER BELIEVE IN ME AND HIS POSITIVE ENERGY HE OFFERS AND STAY FAITHFUL TO ME OR SERVE THE ONE WHO ENSLAVES YOU AT HIS FEET I OFFER FREEDOM NO WORK NO BILLS JUST THAT WE ALL KEEP FAITH AND BELIEVE IN THE ONE GOD THE ONE HIGHER BEING BEING FOR THE GOOD AND PROTECT THE ENERGY THAT HE GIVES WITH YOUR HEART GOD BLESS EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE XOXO

Warning: extreme language:
facebook page 1 (https://www.facebook.com/S1KUNT)
facebook page 2 (https://www.facebook.com/BIGBIZZOBOY)

One drugged up psychopath!
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 21, 2017, 07:42:19 AM
It's just a sad thing to happen for those families and for people who live in this city.

this city is just not safe anymore when you have ice addicts , pedos, Apex and lone wolfs amongst the population

Can anyone tell me what our army reserve do? Any chance we have them patrolling our city.
From what I can tell the justice system has let us down again, and police were too scared to shoot this animal down in flinders st.
This fool shouldn't have made it past young and jacksons pub, in fact he shouldn't have been bailed to begin with.

Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Penelope on January 21, 2017, 10:51:38 AM
lmao

you want armed soldiers patrolling the streets?

Which model should we follow?
Communist Russia?
Nazi germany?
Pinochet's Chile?
Myanmar?
North Korea?

 ::)
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Diocletian on January 21, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
He apparently also studied the Book of Bents....



Quote
Dimitrious Gargasoulas
January 1 at 3:17pm ·

Illumamati are a whole bunch of dogs

I found out




Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: 🏅Dooks on January 21, 2017, 12:29:04 PM
lmao

you want armed soldiers patrolling the streets?

Which model should we follow?
Communist Russia?
Nazi germany?
Pinochet's Chile?
Myanmar?
North Korea?

 ::)




In all seriousness, as the rest of the world lurches to the right it wouldnt suprise me if we start to see a more traditionally right response to these sorts of incidents. Eg discussions on capital punishment on the agenda, harsher sentencing and something which resembles more of a police state with citizens rights.
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 21, 2017, 01:44:47 PM
lmao

you want armed soldiers patrolling the streets?

Which model should we follow?
Communist Russia?
Nazi germany?
Pinochet's Chile?
Myanmar?
North Korea?

 ::)


Why not? Fair chance those tyres would have been shot if one was stationed where those officers were at the biggest intersection in Melbourne. They all knew who he was.

Anyway you obviously haven't  travelled much recently, if you think in countries like Italy  you don't have soldiers patrolling the streets. Haven't been to Germany Greece or France recently but no doubt you will find them
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 21, 2017, 02:34:51 PM

From what I can tell the justice system has let us down again, and police were too scared to shoot this animal down in flinders st.
This fool shouldn't have made it past young and jacksons pub, in fact he shouldn't have been bailed to begin with.

The justice system let us down Angus not the police. Police opposed bail last weekend, bail justice granted it anyway. Just read he was supposed to be in the magistrates court yesterday while he was mowing people down. That's the system not the police

Police are damned if the do damned if they don't.  Shoot or ram him early and innocent people die they get whacked. Yes innocent people have lost thier lives due to this scumbag.

But How many times have we heard and read the cops getting whacked when pursuits have resulted in deaths?
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Penelope on January 21, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
and these places are any safer?

I dont want to live under the watchful eyes of the military. once you blur the line between policing and military you may as well give up.

I understand the narrow minded insecure cant accept that sometimes things happen, and need to find blame and excuses, but thats life. Bad things happen, always have and always will. if you feel safer in a police state, move to one, just dont try to force it upon the rest of us.

We could save a great many more lives by banning privately owned cars, which would also have prevented this. Why not call for that?

lol @ shooting his tyres out. Clearly your reality is influenced by movies and ignorance. Just imagine the carnage created when a bunch of excitable militia start firing automatic weapons in the CBD.

Hadnt the police been chasing him earlier and called the chase off? They had plenty of chances to shoot his tyres out if thats the case

Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 21, 2017, 08:24:02 PM

Hadnt the police been chasing him earlier and called the chase off? They had plenty of chances to shoot his tyres out if thats the case

Yes that's correct Pen. Fears for public safety meant they didn't ram him earlier
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Yeahright on January 22, 2017, 01:09:50 PM
Ramming his car or shooting his tyres is all well and good in hindsight but it could have just as easily caused his rampage down the sidewalk as he lost control of his car or tried to escape. No one knew he was going to do what he did before he did it.

On a sadder note, a 3-month old baby boy(?) has passed away bring the tally to 5
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Diocletian on January 22, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
*footpath
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Yeahright on January 23, 2017, 12:52:39 AM
*footpath
TBH I thought that'd get a reaction from you :lol
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 23, 2017, 08:13:19 AM

From what I can tell the justice system has let us down again, and police were too scared to shoot this animal down in flinders st.
This fool shouldn't have made it past young and jacksons pub, in fact he shouldn't have been bailed to begin with.

The justice system let us down Angus not the police. Police opposed bail last weekend, bail justice granted it anyway. Just read he was supposed to be in the magistrates court yesterday while he was mowing people down. That's the system not the police

Police are damned if the do damned if they don't.  Shoot or ram him early and innocent people die they get whacked. Yes innocent people have lost thier lives due to this scumbag.

But How many times have we heard and read the cops getting whacked when pursuits have resulted in deaths?

If it wasn't for our stupid government not having room for these killlers then maybe the bail justice's would have thought differently. I mean why werent the bail laws changed at the same time the parole was.. Were they even reviewed?

Have you read the criteria of what is needed to become a bail justice. LMFAO. You have volunteers assigned to releasing this lunatics back into society.
I even read today that one former bail justice gave a eulogy at gangitano's funeral.

As for the police they had more one chance WP to end this and if it was good enough for 2 young kids to attempt to stop him, then its good enough for trained officers.

Still not blaming them at all, just thought somewhere one of them should have stood up, especially at the abandoned house, like the 2 youths tried to with bats.
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Chuck17 on January 23, 2017, 10:18:39 AM
I think coming to terms with innocent civilian casualties would be easier to accept if the police were actually doing something instead of sitting on their fat arses with their thumbs up their dates
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: tony_montana on January 23, 2017, 12:26:46 PM
No bail for repeat offenders!
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Yeahright on January 23, 2017, 06:14:59 PM
Found a bit of a conspiracy theory on this but not sure whether to post as it may attract a certain poster :shh
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Chuck17 on January 23, 2017, 07:54:52 PM
Found a bit of a conspiracy theory on this but not sure whether to post as it may attract a certain poster :shh

Where is he ?, did he get banned again?
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 23, 2017, 09:57:36 PM

If it wasn't for our stupid government not having room for these killlers then maybe the bail justice's would have thought differently. I mean why werent the bail laws changed at the same time the parole was.. Were they even reviewed?

Have you read the criteria of what is needed to become a bail justice. LMFAO. You have volunteers assigned to releasing this lunatics back into society.
I even read today that one former bail justice gave a eulogy at gangitano's funeral.


In answer to your first question - answer is no

See below

You obviously missed the part that said the current laws regarding bail justices was amended by the previous Napthine Govt in 2014 "protecting their rights" ensuring they remained
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 24, 2017, 12:53:27 AM
still if andrews thought they needed to be reviewed why has it taken this for him to wake the stuff up.

Didnt we have that price lunatic kill whilst on bail also.

These deaths are on our justice system, but specifically on our pathetic government in this state (past and present) Sadly change will come but too late to those who matter most.



Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: one-eyed on January 24, 2017, 04:19:44 AM
ACCUSED murderer Dimi­trious “Jimmy” Gargasoulas was wanted over a string of dangerous driving charges when he was freed by a bail justice days before the Bourke St massacre, court documents allege.

The explosive allegations are detailed in court documents released after Mr Gargasoulas was on Monday charged with five counts of murder.

The documents reveal Mr Gargasoulas had outstanding warrants for more than 20 charges for a string of alleged offending between April last year and January 10 when he was bailed at an out-of-sessions hearing on January 14.

Among them was a charge for breaching bail by allegedly failing to appear at court in April and charges relating to a near-deadly police pursuit in November.

He was facing a string of charges for dangerous driving, driving while disqualified, failing to stop for police, smashing a taxi windscreen and the theft of three motor vehicles and an EFTPOS machine. Charge sheets tendered to the court allege that, on November 19, he was involved in a police pursuit down the wrong side of St Kilda Rd.

The incident “may have placed person/s in danger of death,” charge sheets allege.

It is not known if the bail justice was made aware of the alleged offences when giving Mr Gargasoulas bail on January 14.

Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Monday heard warrants for some of the matters were executed following the 26-year-old’s arrest on Friday.

Mr Gargasoulas allegedly stabbed his brother before taking his girlfriend hostage on Friday, doing burnouts in his car outside Flinders St station and then mowing down dozens of people in Bourke St.

He refused to appear at court for a brief administrative hearing on Monday.

He is due back in court in August.

Even then he will only appear via videolink and will not step inside a courtroom until next year.

He will remain in custody while police and prosecutors build their case against him.

The police investigation is likely to take months.

Deputy Chief Magistrate Jelena Popovic set an earlier than normal committal mention date. Mr Gargasoulas will return to court on August 1 for a special mention.

He is expected to appear via videolink on that occasion and on December 15 at a committal mention hearing.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/bourke-st-mall-attack-dimitrious-jimmy-gargasoulas-interviewed-by-police/news-story/a66c2a16ff07470cb480989ea9f09136
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: one-eyed on January 24, 2017, 04:32:08 AM
More from his facebook page prior to evil act as well. He thought he was (some) god's "chosen one" ...


The next day, he wrote: “I know it’s shock just imagine when I found out I was the choosen one I did not know if I was being played as a fool or not nearly lost the plot but when I realised it was real I came back to adjust and now my powers are warming up also the more that believe the more power I get and I need as many believers as possible because the world has sinned 6x this hopefully wont be the 7th otherwise all man kind is doomed.”

He also hit out at “homosexuals”, writing “it is stated in my 10 commandments no homosexual shall rule the earth”.

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/rampaging-melbourne-drivers-troubling-facebook-posts-revealed/news-story/9f31c53361bee9ce2ab4982a496a9c5d

The news yesterday also claimed he had gone into St Francis Church in the city (cnr Lonsdale & Elizabeth Sts) and interrupted a mass service to rant and rave at the altar before walking out.
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Penelope on January 24, 2017, 12:41:51 PM
there will be a lot of people very disappointed that his religious based lunatic rantings dont centre around Islam

Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: 1965 on January 24, 2017, 12:58:41 PM
there will be a lot of people very disappointed that his religious based lunatic rantings dont centre around Islam

too soon to be making jokes
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Penelope on January 24, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
Who's making jokes??
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: 🏅Dooks on January 24, 2017, 01:37:08 PM
there will be a lot of people very disappointed that his religious based lunatic rantings dont centre around Islam

too soon to be making jokes

 :huh3
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 24, 2017, 09:57:54 PM
there will be a lot of people very disappointed that his religious based lunatic rantings dont centre around Islam

pretty sure there was an observer heard him yelling the 2 great words of the islamic good book. Not that i believe it just reporting what he said live on tv.

This is a workings of a ice induced lunatic, who was afraid of tyranny and everything that comes with it.



Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Ruanaidh on January 26, 2017, 12:02:38 AM
He should have been lying and dying in a pool of blood on the Bolte Bridge when the coppers had him cornered but decided to prevent an 'accident' from occuring and allowed him to escape. This scenario would not be allowed in the US.
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Damo on January 26, 2017, 09:30:27 AM
They do such a great job of law inforcement in America lol.

Hope we never lead down their path
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Ruanaidh on January 27, 2017, 06:56:04 AM
They do such a great job of law inforcement in America lol.

Hope we never lead down their path
5 people would be alive today if we did. The police union agees. This is the logical extension of SJW influenced police practices as a result of hyperventilation over police shootings some years ago. Take the Toys off the police, give them large calibre weopons and tell them to use them!


Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Chuck17 on January 27, 2017, 07:52:58 AM
X 2
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Harry on January 27, 2017, 05:23:37 PM
They do such a great job of law inforcement in America lol.

Hope we never lead down their path
5 people would be alive today if we did. The police union agees. This is the logical extension of SJW influenced police practices as a result of hyperventilation over police shootings some years ago. Take the Toys off the police, give them large calibre weopons and tell them to use them!

Agree. 
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Penelope on January 27, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
you blokes do know that Robo Cop wasnt a documentary?
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Yeahright on January 28, 2017, 12:27:49 AM
Found a bit of a conspiracy theory on this but not sure whether to post as it may attract a certain poster :shh

Where is he ?, did he get banned again?

Dunno, last time I repeated what I heard directly from the source I got attacked
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Diocletian on January 28, 2017, 03:12:38 AM
you blokes do know that Robo Cop wasnt a documentary?

Yes it was....I even met him up on the Gold Coast.....
Title: Re: Melbourne cbd incident - 20 Jan 17
Post by: Ruanaidh on January 29, 2017, 02:53:13 PM
Found a bit of a conspiracy theory on this but not sure whether to post as it may attract a certain poster :shh

Where is he ?, did he get banned again?

Dunno, last time I repeated what I heard directly from the source I got attacked
Put up or....you know the rest, petal.