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Tigers’ Flea Amigos have special buzz
GLENN McFARLANE,
Herald Sun
March 30, 2017
JACK Riewoldt has dubbed them “The Three Amigos”.
Richmond small forwards Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna and Dan Butler have been tipped to play a big role in the club’s revival this season following a great start to 2017 against Carlton last week.
The three young cubs — each of them 182cm and below — have been charged with applying defensive pressure in attack this season. But they have also been urged to crank up the scoreboard pressure applied to opposition teams.
Each kicked two goals and had 15 or more pressure acts in the Round 1 win, and more is expected of them heading into Friday night’s clash against Collingwood.
Assistant coach Craig McRae praised the first-up efforts of Rioli, Castagna and Butler, saying it was a reward for their strong pre-seasons in forward defensive roles — an area the Tigers want to capitalise on this year.
“Daniel Rioli last year was a standout and now he has a couple of sidekicks to help him out as well,” McRae said.
“The game needs that pressure and forward-half turnovers, but the big thing with those roles is to put the pressure on and apply scoreboard pressure as well.
“It is only a small sample of the JLT Series and Round 1, but they have done well so far. There are going to be some ebbs and flows, but challenge is to remain consistent with your pressure.”
McRae, who played a similar role in his time with Brisbane, said the pressure applied by small forwards can be “infectious” for teammates.
“Jack (Riewoldt) had the (equal) most tackles he has ever had in a match (last week), it’s infectious, everyone buys into it,” he said. “All of a sudden the team is better for it.
“I am fortunate enough to see how hard those young guys have been working, the time and effort they put into getting better. They have worked on their kicking enormously. You don’t fluke these sort of things, it is all about the hard work you are willing to put in.”
McRae is confident 19-year-old Rioli, the smallest of the trio at 179cm, will become even more offensive this season after his strong debut season.
“He is impacting the scoreboard more than he did last year and getting the balance right (between defence and attack),” he said. “He is still a work in progress, but he is a great role model for our younger players with his enormous work rate.”
Twenty-year-old Castagna (181cm) was elevated off the rookie list last week to play his sixth game, and is working hard to grasp his opportunities.
And Butler (182cm), also 20, was a pre-season standout for the Tigers, rewarded for this with his debut match last week.
“If you had to rate pre-seasons, he (Butler) would be in the top two or three (at the club),” McRae said.
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e1cbf228a8a3ea04ab92ba5232dd65a0?width=650)
Daniel Rioli gets a lift from forward line mates Jason Castagna (left) and Dan Butler. Picture: David Caird
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmonds-three-amigos-daniel-rioli-dan-butler-jason-castagna-playing-key-role-for-richmond/news-story/79446238fe3c59383428065ce1169e98
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Let's hope all the publicity doesn't give them the head wobbles.
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We saw last night the lack of consistency you'd get/expect from young inexperienced players. They were all quiet for large chucks of the match. Having said that both Rioli and Butler kicked clutch goals under pressure and as I said in the matchday thread, the turning point in the game came when Butler took on his Collingwood opponent and was only stopped by being tripped up. We goaled from the resulting free and play and it woke the whole team up. We went from being stagnant and out of ideas to then moving the ball quickly and scoring freely.
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We saw last night the lack of consistency you'd get/expect from young inexperienced players. They were all quiet for large chucks of the match. Having said that both Rioli and Butler kicked clutch goals under pressure and as I said in the matchday thread, the turning point in the game came when Butler took on his Collingwood opponent and was only stopped by being tripped up. We goaled from the resulting free and play and it woke the whole team up. We went from being stagnant and out of ideas to then moving the ball quickly and scoring freely.
Agrew. Very important play.
I thought George was a bit fumbly/nervous tonight but Butts and Rioli were still dangerous.
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Castagna had a shocker - can't fault his effort but really needs to work on his disposal, handling & decision making, lacks a bit of composure at times...
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Castagna was average.
Butler and Rioli were also stinking the joint up for most of the night but came good when it mattered most .
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Castagna had a shocker - can't fault his effort but really needs to work on his disposal, handling & decision making, lacks a bit of composure at times...
Can't believe some actually rate his kicking despite all the evidence to the contrary :banghead :banghead
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Something something steel traps. Like Whoah!
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Butler sure is fast.
Keep playing them. More upside than Hunt, Conca, Houli, Morris etc as far as smalls go. Short too worth playing.
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I was a bit disappointed in Rioli last night. For someone with heaps of talent, he goes missing for really long periods of time. Needs to be able to get involved more. Although when he does get it he is very good.
Agree with most on George last night, he did fumble more than usual. But you have to like a kid that isn't afraid to take the game on with footy in hand. I can except him getting caught a few times if he keeps taking on opposition side with his run and carry. And that goes for any player.
Also thought Conca was disappointing. If you want to talk about poor disposal, Conca is the worst in the side.
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Thought Conca was ok by his standards and actually pretty good last week....still, if we're to ever become a serious football team then the likes of him should be depth players at best...
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All 3 amigos were good today.
Rioli had a direct say in about 5 of goals.
Georgie had 8 tackles along with 16 touches and 8 marks.
Butler's speed once again important. 17 possies and 2 goals.
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All hail the mighty amigos :bow :bow
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Keep playing them
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I read somewhere there's something that the opposition can't take alway from us and that's our pressure. These boys bring it. Hope they can keep it up coz it gets the rest of the team going
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Butler's 80m running goal :thumbsup
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-04-08/round-3-butlers-80m-run
Butler puts on the afterburners
Dan Butler was already a key member of the Tigers' trio of tearaways, along with Daniel Rioli and Jason Castagna, but he provided a none-too-subtle reminder. The 20-year-old from Ballarat gathered the ball on the wing as the first quarter entered time-on, saw an opening and did not hesitate to take it. Butler, playing his third game, charged past a series of Eagles, with Jeremy McGovern – the one tasked with chasing him down – left for dead. Butler's scintillating run pierced an empty attacking 50 and he bounced all the way to the square, thanks in part to a Rioli shepherd, before pumping through his fourth career goal. The Richmond faithful predictably roared in delight. Butler added a mid-air, karate kick goal later in the game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-08/five-talking-points-richmond-v-west-coast
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They may not be getting a heap of ball but I would prefer them any day of the week than some tall goal posts, surely eight posts on the field is enough #RIP Tigertit
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Question for OER posters.
Was Rioli's shepherd on Butlers running goal legal?
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It was pushing the boundaries of being an infraction and didn't need to be done
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It was pushing the boundaries of being an infraction and didn't need to be done
Yep. And the umpire knew Butler wouldn't be caught so it was play on. About the only borderline decision they got right all day
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I must say i was sweating on that one, the infraction i believe was using hands to shepherd rather than the body bump?
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Question for OER posters.
Was Rioli's shepherd on Butlers running goal legal?
It was barely legal
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So glad we have Rioli.
I've watched the replay of his goal like a gazillion times this morn. :bow
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Question for OER posters.
Was Rioli's shepherd on Butlers running goal legal?
It was barely legal
Was great
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It was pushing the boundaries of being an infraction and didn't need to be done
Yep. And the umpire knew Butler wouldn't be caught so it was play on. About the only borderline decision they got right all day
Doesn't matter if butler was gunna get caught. That's not part of the laws
Maggot just too gutless to pay it with tens thousands tigers fans going nuts
As per usual the umpiring was rubbish
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Question for OER posters.
Was Rioli's shepherd on Butlers running goal legal?
It was barely legal
Was great
That's what made it
Great
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It was a definite free kick
We were lucky for once
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13 goals 8 points so far for the Amigos - awesome stuff.
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If only Cas could kick :banghead worst kick in the AFL
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If only Cas could kick :banghead worst kick in the AFL
If he was cleaner with his disposal in the forward 50 he'd kick 2+ goals a game. Creates lots of opportunities and his energy/ pressure is fantastic. Much prefer his errors forward of centre than down back where they would cost goals.
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Another handy 7 goals from the 3 Amigos. Georgie the standout of the three tonight.
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Another handy 7 goals from the 3 Amigos. Georgie the standout of the three tonight.
Thought Butler was pretty ordinary.
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Another handy 7 goals from the 3 Amigos. Georgie the standout of the three tonight.
Thought Butler was pretty ordinary.
Yeah thought he struggled a lot
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20 Amigo goals in 4 games.
Average of 5 Amigo goals per game .
Fantastic stuff.
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
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Castagna kicked 4...... :whistle
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
He kicked 4 mate. But you are right he should have kicked a couple more. Stupid decisions a couple of times trying to be to unselfish.
But it wasn't just his goals tonight, he was very good with his run, tackling and pressure when we didn't have the footy.
He is growing in confidence with every game.
Proving a few wrong this year is Georgie.
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
He kicked 4 mate. But you are right he should have kicked a couple more. Stupid decisions a couple of times trying to be to unselfish.
But it wasn't just his goals tonight, he was very good with his run, tackling and pressure when we didn't have the footy.
He is growing in confidence with every game.
Proving a few wrong this year is Georgie.
:clapping
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Will be the one to go when Bolton's ready.... :shh
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Will be the one to go when Bolton's ready.... :shh
No need to dislike him just because you were wrong. :thumbsup
He played well yesterday, kicked 4 and hit the post with another from 50. Not too shabby from a guy that was a late rookie pick.
Credit where credit is due Dio.
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Will be the one to go when Bolton's ready.... :shh
Why not have both? :thumbsup
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Will be the one to go when Bolton's ready.... :shh
A long way ahead of Butler at the moment.
Castagna's mistakes are forgivable. Generally just from trying to take the game on or be unselfish. Butler's really frustrate me. Lairiising.
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Will be the one to go when Bolton's ready.... :shh
A long way ahead of Butler at the moment.
Castagna's mistakes are forgivable. Generally just from trying to take the game on or be unselfish. Butler's really frustrate me. Lairiising.
All 3 of Rioli, Bulter and George have been excellent this year at different times and the main reason we are 4 and zip. They are all setting the tone.
They are the ones kicking us a winning score along with our midfield.
Our KPF and medium forwards are nowhere!!
I still have hope for Lennon as a lead up forward- he is a mark, kick forward not a forward flanker.
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These guys make the games so much more interesting to watch.
Rioli is magic, excuse the cliche.
Love Butler's pace, personally think he's a smarter footballer than Castagna but not as well built.
Castagna obviously made a few decision errors but hopefully that will improve. Has been very good this year.
Clearly they enjoy playing together as well which is nice.
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“I just try and build my game on my pressure, but it was good to get on the end of a few goals,” Castagna told ‘Roar Vision’ post-match at the Gabba.
“That’s our role (he, Rioli and Butler) . . . just to put the pressure on and go from there.
“We get on the end of a few goals, but our main role’s our pressure . . .
“We’ll just keep pushing each other to do that, and we help each other when we do.”
Apart from his four goals against the Lions on Sunday, Castagna had seven inside-50s and took six marks – four of them inside 50.
Castagna, Rioli and Butler, between them, have scored 20 goals out of the Tigers’ overall total of 62 in the four rounds so far this season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-04-17/pressure-is-castagnas-key-focus
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
Decent kick at goal from the set shot. Don't think any of his other kicks have ever hit the target
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....and yet some still want him down back... :help
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20 Amigo goals in 4 games.
Average of 5 Amigo goals per game .
Fantastic stuff.
And an pretty even spread from all three.
Rioli 7 goals
Castagna 7 goals
Butler 6 goals
Only Jack and Dusty (8 goals each) have kicked more individual goals than the 3 amigos.
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Riewoldt is in the form of his life, kicking six exceptional goals as a deep forward surrounded by pressure forwards Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna and Dan Butler.
He says it is allowing him to thrive as the new-look forward line quickly gels.
“The game is starting to shift that way. We need small forwards and we need them to put pressure on,’’ he told 3AW.
“Those kids are great characters and they work their butts off and I really just love playing with them.
“We have turned into a little family down there and their pressure is something that lets me play my game more and we all feed off each other.
“We were in a bad spot there as a group and at three quarter-time we sat down and had a heart-to-heart conversation about what might get us over the line and talked about our strengths and were able to get over the line.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-says-richmond-primed-for-litmus-test-against-adelaide/news-story/cdc4bde879035653623935d2a49dc21f
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Form of his life really ?
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Lmao at dumbfuck commentators and club members pronouncing it CaSTAGna?
#ThinkLasagne
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
Decent kick at goal from the set shot. Don't think any of his other kicks have ever hit the target
I reckon he is the most vulnerable of the 3. Bolton will be in the side by years end..... imho.
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Castagna kicked three and should have had 5 or 6..... made some horrible mistakes....better sides will punish him...both he & Butler need to pull their heads in a bit...
...so does Martin for that matter.... :shh
Decent kick at goal from the set shot. Don't think any of his other kicks have ever hit the target
I reckon he is the most vulnerable of the 3. Bolton will be in the side by years end..... imho.
Going to disagree with you there. Think Butler may be the most vulnerable. Has come across a bit fumbly and dare I say, not as interested?
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Damien Hardwick says small forwards are becoming the most important players
Ronny Lerner
The Age
29 April 2017
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick believes small forwards are gradually becoming the most important players in the game.
Having assembled his own brigade of small forwards this year – Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna and Dan Butler – with great effect, Hardwick knows first-hand how valuable a commodity they can be.
The trio have made a great start to 2017, combining for 23 goals, 44 tackles and an average of 40 disposals a game, and have played a key role in the undefeated Tigers' best start to a season since 1995.
"You've got to look at Hawthorn two weeks ago when [Paul] Puopolo, [Cyril] Rioli and [Luke] Breust didn't have an impact. All of a sudden Hawthorn get back on track, you know who's having an impact? Those three guys," Hardwick said at Punt Road Oval on Friday.
"I think they're important players to Hawthorn and, to be honest, they're important players to us as well.
"If we get a good balance of offence and defence from both our talls and smalls, we're going to be a better side as a result of it."
As Richmond prepare for their biggest challenge of the season to date against the ladder-leading Crows at Adelaide Oval on Sunday, Hardwick is looking forward to seeing how his young small forwards perform on the same stage as the game's best goalsneak – Adelaide's Eddie Betts.
"We're happy with what those guys have brought in this early part of the season," Hardwick said.
"Castagna, Butler and Rioli have probably formed a little bit of a contingent there that provide great pressure and averaging a good amount of shots on goal as well.
"Eddie's been doing his bit for a long time, so if we can get one of those guys to that sort of standard we'll be pretty happy.
"Our guys are relatively young and inexperienced so there's going to be ups and downs for those boys but if they keep the defensive element of the game up and going it's going to keep them in the game for longer."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/damien-hardwick-says-small-forwards-are-becoming-the-most-important-players-20170428-gvuguq.html
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Only Rioli is still playing good the other two have forgotten what got them all the accolades in the first place.
Time to bring Lloyd back in and Bolton too.
I've lost patience with C Ellis, just might be the softest player I've seen.
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
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George ball use and decision making is not good enough
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
Sadly (and I've been a huge wrap for this kid) his "efforts" at times today were ...well... pathetic
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
not dimwits fault though, nothing is right?
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All 3 were down today but that's more to do with the way the footy was brought in. To give these guys a chance the ball needs to move quickly otherwise our forward 50 gets to crowded.
Jack was played further up the ground leaving them to take uncontested marks in our forward 50.
We seem to lose all structure when things aren't going our way.
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Had no problem with D Rioli. Kids a star
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Had no problem with D Rioli. Kids a star
He needs to do more. It looks to me like he is pretty happy with itself at the minute.
He continually looks spent and continually plays with his hair.
I'm tipping if his last name wasn't Rioli, people would be a bit tougher on him.
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George fumbles and constantly drops easy marks. Butler needs a rest. Bring in Bolton/Stengle and Lloyd/Lennon.
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Had no problem with D Rioli. Kids a star
He needs to do more. It looks to me like he is pretty happy with itself at the minute.
He continually looks spent and continually plays with his hair.
I'm tipping if his last name wasn't Rioli, people would be a bit tougher on him.
He looks spent because he has usually just put in 6 or more defensive pressure efforts in a row while others around him do nothing. :whistle
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We aren't getting enough out of our smalls offensively, it's ok to say defensive pressure, defensive pressure but when you look at what Freos smalls as in Hill and Walters do offensively it's the difference. Butler and Castagna just don't do enough offensively, that needs to change if we are to turn this around
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Had no problem with D Rioli. Kids a star
He needs to do more. It looks to me like he is pretty happy with itself at the minute.
He continually looks spent and continually plays with his hair.
I'm tipping if his last name wasn't Rioli, people would be a bit tougher on him.
He looks spent because he has usually just put in 6 or more defensive pressure efforts in a row while others around him do nothing. :whistle
He definitely runs harder and quicker when he is chasing. He needs to have the same intent when the ball is there to be won.
His tackling pressure is first class but needs to get involved more. We don't need anymore highlight package players.
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Wouldn't be at all surprised if part of the issue with young Daniel is he is carrying an ankle injury at the moment
Player sponsor function yesterday morning at training, was favouring it
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Tigers' mosquito fleet proving hard to swat
afl.com.au
14 May 2017
RICHMOND'S trio of small forwards have looked to their Hawthorn counterparts to spur their improvement, with the similarities stretching beyond young gun Daniel Rioli and his brilliant uncle Cyril.
A key plank in the Hawks' 2013-15 premierships was the combination of Norm Smith medallist Rioli with Luke Breust and Paul Puopolo, with the trio combining their goal sense with defensive pressure.
Tiger Rioli and his sidekicks Dan Butler and Jason Castagna have taken the same path this season, with their tackling a backbone in a revamped Richmond game plan.
"We're quite similar to that trio of 'Junior', Puopolo and Breust, with myself, Dan Butler and 'Georgie' (Castagna)," Rioli told AFL.com.au.
"We do tend to look to those guys to get some tips.
"If you bring that X-factor, and small forwards can do that, that's a big part of the AFL right now."
Rioli, Castagna and Butler combined for just one goal against the Western Bulldogs in the Tigers' narrow round seven loss, but their tackling pressure has not dipped in the demanding roles they are playing.
While backing the group to rebound on the scoreboard against Fremantle, Rioli challenged the club's forwards not to let their defensive standards slip.
"Our forward pressure in our front half has been extraordinary, but we've got to keep that up," he said.
"We'll be pretty hard to beat if we keep that up. We've trained it all year this year, so we've got into that habit."
After being mentored by half-forward Shane Edwards in his first season, Rioli has taken young small forwards Shai Bolton and Tyson Stengle under his wing this season.
The 20-year-old hoped to see the pair pushing for senior selection later this season, with both hitting strong VFL form in round seven.
"Shane took me under his wing in my first year at the club and I've taken that onboard and now with young guys like Tyson and Shai at the club I can try and show them the ropes a little bit," Rioli said.
"Sometimes they're a bit hard to control, but they're going good … I can't wait and hopefully soon enough they'll get a gig. To play alongside them would be a really good feeling.
"They know what they're doing now, so I kind of let them loose a bit, but they still come up to me if they need anything."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-14/tigers-mosquito-fleet-proving-hard-to-swat
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on here but what was Rioli doing standing by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go?
They showed the footage tonight on one of the footy shows.
If that was one of the other "Flea Amigos" most on here would be demanding their heads.
There is definitely rules for one and rules for others when it comes to Rioli.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on here but what was Rioli doing standing by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go?
They showed the footage tonight on one of the footy shows.
If that was one of the other "Flea Amigos" most on here would be demanding their heads.
There is definitely rules for one and rules for others when it comes to Rioli.
We (OER) were the first to point out Rioli being all by himself on the wing in this thread: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=26219.0.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on here but what was Rioli doing standing by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go?
They showed the footage tonight on one of the footy shows.
If that was one of the other "Flea Amigos" most on here would be demanding their heads.
There is definitely rules for one and rules for others when it comes to Rioli.
The diff is he's a baby and probably the only one who will learn from it.
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The rest have cognitive disorders.
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
Imagine what he could be with consistency
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
The bottom would not be playing right now if we were a contender. That's the problem.
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
The bottom would not be playing right now if we were a contender. That's the problem.
Its tIme to swap Bolton for Castagna
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
The bottom would not be playing right now if we were a contender. That's the problem.
Its tIme to swap Bolton for Castagna
Agreed. George does some good things but he's just not clean enough at the moment.
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Time to bring Sammy boy in he kicked 35 last year and improved got to be in.our best 22.Not getting anything from George and needs to tidy his game.
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Stengle and bolton in for george and the servant. Need to keep a lean mean fightin' machine
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20 Amigo goals in the opening four games
9 Amigo goals in the following four games .
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I'm tipping if his last name wasn't Rioli, people would be a bit tougher on him.
Example 1. Jake King :shh
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
not dimwits fault though, nothing is right?
Oh yeah it's Dimmas fault if a player is scared of contact ::)
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
not dimwits fault though, nothing is right?
Oh yeah it's Dimmas fault if a player is scared of contact ::)
Of course. He'd have absolutely nothing to do with setting expectations and standards as the coach. ::)
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Or at least identifying the characteristic in one of his own which he hasn't, so I'd say it's a 3rd party issue.
Dimmer.
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He was speaking to me personally. No need to bring up that he was happy with our assistants. So I highly doubt that he was lying.
You're getting desperate now and your trolling is becoming tiresome. Give it a rest.
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
Rioli is a first round selection that averages 5 kicks per game, that stood by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go and watched us lose that game. That is pathetic and he deserves his right whack regardless of who is uncle was.
The kid is a long way from being a superstar.
The other two have come from much further back and have been just as good as Rioli this year.
The form of all 3 have dropped recently but that is because of the way the footy has been entering our forwardline.
Out of the 3, Rioli looks like he needs a rest more than the other two.
His body language at times is awful
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
Rioli is a first round selection that averages 5 kicks per game, that stood by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go and watched us lose that game. That is pathetic and he deserves his right whack regardless of who is uncle was.
The kid is a long way from being a superstar.
The other two have come from much further back and have been just as good as Rioli this year.
The form of all 3 have dropped recently but that is because of the way the footy has been entering our forwardline.
Out of the 3, Rioli looks like he needs a rest more than the other two.
His body language at times is awful
Disagree BT.
Rioli still chasing and tackling. Out of the three of them Rioli still is most threatening.
Out of the three lasagna is the most inconsistent and needs the rest.
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He was speaking to me personally. No need to bring up that he was happy with our assistants. So I highly doubt that he was lying.
You're getting desperate now and your trolling is becoming tiresome. Give it a rest.
Hey Y&BB, ask Benny why he went up to our player training camp for the first time in 7 years this pre season?
Perhaps he is happy with the assistants, what about the coach?
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Said it somewhere on FB a couple of weeks ago.
The kids are tired. Butler's pace is gone and Castagna isn't influencing games either.
They need a rest.
Bring in Miles + Lloyd. Or Lennon.
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Rioli will be a superstar.
Butler will be very good if inconsistent.
Castagna will be the next Nathan Gordon.
Rioli is a first round selection that averages 5 kicks per game, that stood by himself on the wing with 21 seconds to go and watched us lose that game. That is pathetic and he deserves his right whack regardless of who is uncle was.
The kid is a long way from being a superstar.
The other two have come from much further back and have been just as good as Rioli this year.
The form of all 3 have dropped recently but that is because of the way the footy has been entering our forwardline.
Out of the 3, Rioli looks like he needs a rest more than the other two.
His body language at times is awful
Disagree BT.
Rioli still chasing and tackling. Out of the three of them Rioli still is most threatening.
Out of the three lasagna is the most inconsistent and needs the rest.
Are you disagreeing that Rioli standing alone on the wing with 21 seconds to go is not exceptable?
Or are you disagreeing that Rioli averages 5 kicks a game? 5 kicks in 100 minutes isn't enough.
Or are you disagreeing his body language isn't AFL standard at times.
He is a very good tackler but footy is about getting the pill. He needs to do more and again, if his name wasn't Rioli Im pretty sure you would agree.
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Example 2. Morris :shh
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
not dimwits fault though, nothing is right?
Oh yeah it's Dimmas fault if a player is scared of contact ::)
Of course. He'd have absolutely nothing to do with setting expectations and standards as the coach. ::)
Set all the standards you want, it's up to the player to not go soft when he joins the big boys
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I haven't seen a softer player ever than C Ellis and that includes McMahon who used to run away from players
I had high hopes for this kid but I'm losing all hope.
He's hopelessly soft and now I think it's too late for him.
not dimwits fault though, nothing is right?
Oh yeah it's Dimmas fault if a player is scared of contact ::)
Of course. He'd have absolutely nothing to do with setting expectations and standards as the coach. ::)
Set all the standards you want, it's up to the player to not go soft when he joins the big boys
Thanks for your input.
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
Stop the nonsense BT
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George Cantkickit & Martin's missed set shots early in the last wre far more criminal than anything Rioli did.
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George Cantkickit & Martin's missed set shots early in the last wre far more criminal than anything Rioli did.
BS!
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
He played an ok game. Focus on the pathetic set shots not Rioli who works his guts out.
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
He played an ok game. Focus on the pathetic set shots not Rioli who works his guts out.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
Rioli missed 3 goals before halftime.
Another 7 kick game and 2 tackles. Worked his guts out my arse!
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
He played an ok game. Focus on the pathetic set shots not Rioli who works his guts out.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
Rioli missed 3 goals before halftime.
Another 7 kick game and 2 tackles. Worked his guts out my arse!
I know its an emotional time ATM but please open your eyes and watch the game closely. Again, the easy missed shots at goal cost us the game.
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they both cost us, no excuses for jack, martin or costanza to miss from 20 metres out direct in front, and no excuses for rioli to drop a stuffing uncontested mark on our last thrust fwd. He marks that we go inside 50 - inexcusable
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I find it so disappointing that castagna probably puts himself in the best positions and gets the most ball out of all our small forwards but his decision making and kicking is just so poo.
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
He played an ok game. Focus on the pathetic set shots not Rioli who works his guts out.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
Rioli missed 3 goals before halftime.
Another 7 kick game and 2 tackles. Worked his guts out my arse!
I know its an emotional time ATM but please open your eyes and watch the game closely. Again, the easy missed shots at goal cost us the game.
That's pretty obvious but what has that got to do with what I think of Rioli game?
He averages LESS than 2 kick per quarter for the year. How is that exceptable??
People like you need to open your eyes and see him for the player he is at the moment and that's pretty bloody avaerage.
He missed 3 goals early in the game, then barley touched it after that before dropping a chest mark with about a minute to go.
Take the rose coloured glasses off mate, he was poo house today.
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they both cost us, no excuses for jack, martin or costanza to miss from 20 metres out direct in front, and no excuses for rioli to drop a stuffing uncontested mark on our last thrust fwd. He marks that we go inside 50 - inexcusable
Be careful Tony, you are not allowed to say anything negative about a Rioli. Untouchable.
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Rioli is the most overrated player on our list by far.
Another nothing game.
Dropped a chest mark late that my 4 year old daughter would have taken.
Getting a game because of his name.
Should be dropped.
He played an ok game. Focus on the pathetic set shots not Rioli who works his guts out.
Stop the nonsense BT
Let me guess, you think he played well??
Rioli missed 3 goals before halftime.
Another 7 kick game and 2 tackles. Worked his guts out my arse!
I know its an emotional time ATM but please open your eyes and watch the game closely. Again, the easy missed shots at goal cost us the game.
That's pretty obvious but what has that got to do with what I think of Rioli game?
He averages LESS than 2 kick per quarter for the year. How is that exceptable??
People like you need to open your eyes and see him for the player he is at the moment and that's pretty bloody avaerage.
He missed 3 goals early in the game, then barley touched it after that before dropping a chest mark with about a minute to go.
Take the rose coloured glasses off mate, he was poo house today.
Okay :thumbsup some people... :help
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
It's refreshing that some can see the game for what it is.
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George Cantkickit & Martin's missed set shots early in the last wre far more criminal than anything Rioli did.
Yep, they kick those games done and dusted
But Rioli dropping that mark :banghead
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Thought Rioli looked tired, needs a rest
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No one is immune at this club.
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Yes, he should have done this and that.......
He has played 27 odd games and is only 20............
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
If all you needed was "intent" Steve Morris would be getting a game.
You would hope a first round pick in his second season was giving you more than just intent.
Reality is he just isn't that good yet but overrated by some on here because of his last name. Please
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
If all you needed was "intent" Steve Morris would be getting a game.
You would hope a first round pick in his second season was giving you more than just intent.
Reality is he just isn't that good yet but overrated by some on here because of his last name. Please
That's just silly. He is clearly way more skilled than Morris and when he does get the ball he often does good things with it. He will get better at finding the ball.
Do you think he would benefit from playing in the vfl ? I don't see the point ( especially as there are no replacements really ) I think he needs to be played at the highest level and we need his fwd50 pressure. Perhaps some people overrate him because of his name but he is the least of our problems. By the way look at other 1st round picks in that draft and there's about 3 or 4 performing consistently. Have some patience.
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Thought Rioli looked tired, needs a rest
This. Promising start to the year but has looked sore for a few weeks. Play him in Dreamtime then give him a rest for a week.
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
If all you needed was "intent" Steve Morris would be getting a game.
You would hope a first round pick in his second season was giving you more than just intent.
Reality is he just isn't that good yet but overrated by some on here because of his last name. Please
That's just silly. He is clearly way more skilled than Morris and when he does get the ball he often does good things with it. He will get better at finding the ball.
Do you think he would benefit from playing in the vfl ? I don't see the point ( especially as there are no replacements really ) I think he needs to be played at the highest level and we need his fwd50 pressure. Perhaps some people overrate him because of his name but he is the least of our problems. By the way look at other 1st round picks in that draft and there's about 3 or 4 performing consistently. Have some patience.
i like him but what poos me is people overrate him, mostly due to his surname.
I agree that there isn't much in our twos to replace him but sometimes you need to teach the kids they have to earn the right to play AFL and more importantly play for the Tigers.
Do you think it would really hurt him to be dropped if that teaches him that. Stengle could replace him or Butler when fit.
Beverage at the Bulldogs does it weekly.
And just on the skill comment, you are 100% right but if you cannot get the footy is all a bit of a waste.
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If more of our players played with the intent of Rioli id say we would be 7-1.
Yes he doesn't get enough ball, but that you can certainly work on as a 2nd year player, his harassing, pressure and run is something that many of our players lack.
If all you needed was "intent" Steve Morris would be getting a game.
You would hope a first round pick in his second season was giving you more than just intent.
Reality is he just isn't that good yet but overrated by some on here because of his last name. Please
That's just silly. He is clearly way more skilled than Morris and when he does get the ball he often does good things with it. He will get better at finding the ball.
Do you think he would benefit from playing in the vfl ? I don't see the point ( especially as there are no replacements really ) I think he needs to be played at the highest level and we need his fwd50 pressure. Perhaps some people overrate him because of his name but he is the least of our problems. By the way look at other 1st round picks in that draft and there's about 3 or 4 performing consistently. Have some patience.
i like him but what poos me is people overrate him, mostly due to his surname.
I agree that there isn't much in our twos to replace him but sometimes you need to teach the kids they have to earn the right to play AFL and more importantly play for the Tigers.
Do you think it would really hurt him to be dropped if that teaches him that. Stengle could replace him or Butler when fit.
Beverage at the Bulldogs does it weekly.
And just on the skill comment, you are 100% right but if you cannot get the footy is all a bit of a waste.
I have no doubt Rioli knows you have to earn it, he tries his heart out week in week out so you can't fault him in effort and trying to earn it, I know you can't just have people who try in your team but my point is he will only get better from the experience and yes we could bring in Stengle but that's a valuable promotion we may need. if you fault him for not getting enough touches well I'd just say give him a while to learn the game better and be patient.
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Castagna’s goalden run
richmondfc.com.au
22 May 2017
Richmond’s livewire, young forward Jason Castagna is ranked equal second among the competition’s rising star contenders for total goals this season.
Castagna, who kicked two goals in the Tigers’ three-point loss to Greater Western Sydney at Spotless Stadium last Saturday night, has a tally of 11 after nine home-and-away rounds, just two behind the rising stars’ leading goalkicker, Brisbane’s Eric Hipwood.
The 20-year-old Tiger has scored multiple goals on three occasions in season 2017, with a best return of four against Brisbane at the Gabba in Round 4.
He is equal third on Richmond’s goalkicking alongside Daniel Rioli, 14 behind the Tigers’ top goalkicker Jack Riewoldt.
Castagna’s teammate Dan Butler, who missed the GWS clash because of a groin injury, is ranked fourth among rising stars for total goals, with nine.
That same pair is ranked first and second for total inside-50 entries among the AFL’s rising stars – Castagna has 28 and Butler 26.
To be eligible to be nominated for the AFL’s Rising Star award, a player must be younger than 21 years of age on 1 January of the award year and have played 10 or fewer senior games before the start of the season.
At this stage, neither Castagna nor Butler has received a Rising Star nomination.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-05-22/castagnas-goalden-run
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Ben Nason was our second highest goalkicker in his first season.... :shh
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they both cost us, no excuses for jack, martin or costanza to miss from 20 metres out direct in front, and no excuses for rioli to drop a stuffing uncontested mark on our last thrust fwd. He marks that we go inside 50 - inexcusable
Agree TM, few people are being blinded by their love/hate for Rioli and fail to see that all these players failed to execute when needed.
What irks me is the double standards by some posters. Barely any marks, touches, tackles and no goals are excusable because player X "creates a contest" after 6 years in the system but a couple of marks, goals and tackles isn't good enough for a second year players because "he doesn't get enough of the ball"
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Yeah there's a lot of that - Ive noticed once a player is labelled, thats it regardless of performances for the rest of their career.
For example, some posters including myself have been critical of maccas tackling technique throughout his career, but this season Ive noticed a huge improvement on that part of his game. He is nailing them and hurting opponents which I love to see, however, not one single positive comment about it from anyone else, yet the next time he misses a tackle you can rest assured someone will pop up highlighting it and labeling him a poo tackler. I hate that about our supporters.
I havent been a grigg fan over the years but fairs fair, over the last few seasons hes been a reliable contributor that deserves his spot, this season I feel he's gone to another level. Yes hes no star and his kicking is questionable, but as an overall package he brings a lot more positives to the table.
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they both cost us, no excuses for jack, martin or costanza to miss from 20 metres out direct in front, and no excuses for rioli to drop a stuffing uncontested mark on our last thrust fwd. He marks that we go inside 50 - inexcusable
Agree TM, few people are being blinded by their love/hate for Rioli and fail to see that all these players failed to execute when needed.
What irks me is the double standards by some posters. Barely any marks, touches, tackles and no goals are excusable because player X "creates a contest" after 6 years in the system but a couple of marks, goals and tackles isn't good enough for a second year players because "he doesn't get enough of the ball"
At least I have an opinion on our players, right or wrong, you just sit back and feed off everyone's else's opinions.
Try having a thought of your own, it would be so much more enjoyable for the rest of us.
You seem like you would be a fun guy to hang around :lol
And just on your crap above, one is a tall forward who has played a handful of games who's main job was to make a contest and create opportunities for players like Rioli, George and Bulter as well as to let Jack play a little deeper. No one, including me ever said Elton was going to be a star but a lot of people on here have already labeled Rioli just that. But the truth is he is going just ok but he happens to be a Rioli.
George has outperformed or at the very least been on par with Rioli this year but some that got him wrong are to stupid to admit it. It's obviously not you because you don't really contribute much more than white noise.
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Don't think anyone wrote off George but there was plenty (originally me, not that that suits your theory ::)) that questioned his kicking and decision making and are continually proven CORRECT whether you want to admit it or not
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they both cost us, no excuses for jack, martin or costanza to miss from 20 metres out direct in front, and no excuses for rioli to drop a stuffing uncontested mark on our last thrust fwd. He marks that we go inside 50 - inexcusable
Agree TM, few people are being blinded by their love/hate for Rioli and fail to see that all these players failed to execute when needed.
What irks me is the double standards by some posters. Barely any marks, touches, tackles and no goals are excusable because player X "creates a contest" after 6 years in the system but a couple of marks, goals and tackles isn't good enough for a second year players because "he doesn't get enough of the ball"
And just on your crap above, one is a tall forward who has played a handful of games who's main job was to make a contest and create opportunities for players like Rioli, George and Bulter as well as to let Jack play a little deeper. No one, including me ever said Elton was going to be a star but a lot of people on here have already labeled Rioli just that. But the truth is he is going just ok but he happens to be a Rioli.
George has outperformed or at the very least been on par with Rioli this year but some that got him wrong are to stupid to admit it. It's obviously not you because you don't really contribute much more than white noise.
Gotta agree bt if anything rioli is not at an acceptable level yet but hey we all see the need to put games into him and with games and experience the improvement will come.
No one agrees with this but imo the three small fwd line is a problem especially with the output and goals we are getting from them. Not sure if they will even become top players
We play so many smalls not just fwd but right across the board and it hurts us in so many ways.
Interesting to note we have plaeyed up to 10 or was it 12 smalls in one game and none of them make significant consistent contributions and you could argue most are lacking and dont have too many outstanding attributes to fall back on. It is structurally poor and totally limits in how you can play.There is a reason why it appears we have no plan b its almost impossible to play differently than we do.There is little flexability with in the playing group.
A total opposite is the heirs apparent GWS just 6 smalls on their entire list its almost a total different dogma with them ah whats the point no one wants hear it.
All i can say is there is so much more to a player than just having pace and being able to apply a bit of pressure.
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Richmond put enormous amounts of forward pressure on and benefited from great cameos by second-game player Shai Bolton, with Jason Castagna, Bolton and Daniel Rioli laying 14 tackles between them.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-27/match-report-tigers-dreamtime-redemption)
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League Teams last night said we are on track to be the highest ever recorded pressure team in the forward half.
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League Teams last night said we are on track to be the highest ever recorded pressure team in the forward half.
How do you like them apples Craw? :o Hmmmmm?
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Luff: "Richmond is averaging forcing 30 forward half turnovers - the most ever recorded"
https://twitter.com/TheRunHome/status/875223707882364928
"Discussing forward press - Champion Data graph of time spent in forward half in 2017."
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCVrxD_U0AAswYZ.jpg)
https://twitter.com/TheRunHome/status/875224298947870720
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Could it be the 4 amigos? :shh
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Butler only had 4 disposals and Rioli 8. Not good enough
Yep, poor games from all 3 amigos. Georgie should have had 3 goals as he missed two gettable set shots.
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Got to get rid of 1 of them and bring in Lennon he at least can kick straight.
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Very poor game by all 3.
Rioli losing his feet late in the final qtr, summed it up
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Flea amigos run out of petrol after 1 quarter, claw has a valid point re talls, so you had all better listen to him you dwarf loving pole dancing hermaphrodites
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Tigeritis: - symptoms - Adult Macrocephaly - often the result of increased media attention
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If you want to be on the big stage...you have to be able to perform
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Always thought Castagna was a better shot for goal but he has been putrid lately.
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I don't have a problem with any of them. They have all preformed at different stages of this year. And a big reason we are where we are.
They are all young and inexperienced and dropping any of them should be just seen as part of their learning. It doesn't mean anything other than it's time for a rest or to get back some confidence.
I know we have just come back from a bye but sometimes it just a rest from the "big stage" not a rest from a game of footy.
Rotate them all on form and watch them realise that this isn't just going to happen. Hard work is needed both physically and mentally. I think this would benifit Rioli and and more so Butler as I already think George knows he needs to improve in most parts of his game.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with going back for a week or two to get some confidence.
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I can't stand Butler. He lairises around and some of his efforts/ errors are diabolical.
All 3 were ordinary but he'd be the first I'd drop.
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Butler needs to get rid of the stuffing pill instead of stuffing around with it, has done it every game needs that kicked out of him asap
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They were dominated by their opponents yesterday. Was a shocking performance. Please learn how to take a contested mark boys and compete..
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Rioli has been poor for 4-6 weeks.
Castagna's set shots for goal are terrible.
Butler's pace has deserted him.
You'd have thought a week off would do them wonders, but it did nothing.
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Tiger cubs continue to shine
Lively, young Richmond small forwards Jason Castagna and Dan Butler continue to feature prominently among the competition’s rising star contenders in a variety of key categories this season.
Castagna, who kicked two goals in the Tigers’ 26-point victory over Carlton at the MCG last Sunday, is second on the rising stars’ goalkicking list with an overall tally of 15 after 14 home-and-away rounds (13 games all-up), just three behind Brisbane’s Eric Hipwood.
The 20-year-old Tiger (he turns 21 on July 12) has scored multiple goals four times, with a best return of four against Brisbane at the Gabba in Round 4.
He is third on Richmond’s goalkicking list and is ranked first among rising stars for marks inside 50, third for inside-50 entries, fourth for contested possessions and seventh for tackles.
Butler, 21, is equal third among rising stars for goals, with a total of 13 goals (in 11 games), including two against the Blues last Sunday.
He’s also booted multiple goals on four occasions, is fourth on the Tigers’ goalkicking table, and ranks first among rising stars for total bounces, fourth for inside-50 entries, fourth for goal assists, fifth for marks inside 50 and fifth for tackles.
To be eligible to be nominated for the AFL’s Rising Star award, a player must be younger than 21 years of age on 1 January of the award year and have played 10 or fewer senior games before the start of the season.
Butler received a Rising Star nomination following an impressive two-goal performance in Richmond’s Round 11 victory over North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium.
Fellow Tiger skilful, speedy small forward Daniel Rioli, who was a Rising Star nominee late in his 2016 debut season of AFL football, has kicked 12 goals in 13 games this year and been a valuable contributor for the team through his strong defensive pressure.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-06-28/tiger-cubs-continue-to-shine
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Talk about resting / managing / dropping Amigos
They are making it quite difficult.
Butler looked ordinary last week - smashed it last night .
Castagna got us going last week .
Rioli has been quiet lately- but his goal last night was pure silk .
To borrow a cricket analogy - this is a case of " if Lillee doesn't get you Thommo will "
Almost 50 Amigo goals this year .
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Trying to find positives after watching 2 hours of slop :-\.
6 goals from our small forwards is at least one positive. Butler now with 20 goals for the year.
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Trying to find positives after watching 2 hours of slop :-\.
6 goals from our small forwards is at least one positive. Butler now with 20 goals for the year.
Yep a great result considering they were all just ok today. Strange game to watch...so many errors. Broard looked ok i thought.
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I thought Butler was a bit more than okay. Had a few bad moments (dropped mark comes to mind) but 3 goals, 16 disposals and 7 tackles is good by any standard
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I thought Butler was a bit more than okay. Had a few bad moments (dropped mark comes to mind) but 3 goals, 16 disposals and 7 tackles is good by any standard
Seriously good numbers but there is something NQR about this kid. At times he looks disinterested??
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with those numbers I would say he was mildly interested
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with those numbers I would say he was mildly interested
Do you not know what I mean?
Sometimes he might take on a tackler, but gets caught and just conceeds being holding the ball without so much as him trying to get a handball.
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Butler is the David Gower of the AFL..... :shh
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Butler can stay. I'd drop Rioli & Castagna because they've forgotten how to tackle. Bring in Stengle and Bolton.
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Cas officially THE worst kick in the AFL. I'd back Soldo running into an open goal before Cas
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Cas officially THE worst kick in the AFL. I'd back Soldo running into an open goal before Cas
Pretty tight with Shaun grigg
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Maybe he should kick at goal doing bananas all the time
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Cas officially THE worst kick in the AFL. I'd back Soldo running into an open goal before Cas
Pretty tight with Shaun grigg
At least Grigg can hit a target once in a while (even if it comes with snow on top)
Maybe he should kick at goal doing bananas all the time
I reckon he even stuffed that one up but it luckily went in :lol
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Maybe he should kick at goal doing bananas all the time
I reckon he even stuffed that one up but it luckily went in :lol
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No left foot.
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No right foot either
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Cas officially THE worst kick in the AFL. I'd back Soldo running into an open goal before Cas
Pretty tight with Shaun grigg
At least Grigg can hit a target once in a while (even if it comes with snow on top)
Maybe he should kick at goal doing bananas all the time
I reckon he even stuffed that one up but it luckily went in :lol
You are not wrong lucky. Given we had Jack in the square with no one near him, and I think Ellis nearby unattended as well, I'd have dropped him for the rest of the season if he had missed it.
This bloke's decision making is a real worry for mine. Maybe it will get better with time?
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No no Castagna's a great decision maker who always kicks to advantage according to OER's great footy sage ol' Mopsy Claws..... :shh
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..saw some interesting stats on the replay that showed Rioli has been our best pressure player and was responsible for the most scores for us from turnovers this season.... :shh :shh
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The Drill podcast: AFL statistics reveal Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Daniel Rioli pressure numbers
Herald Sun
3 August 2017
RICHMOND forward Jason Castagna has kicked 23 goals this season, but he says he isn’t judged on that by the club.
“It’s almost like a little competition between us small forwards when we’re playing, who can get higher pressure points,” Castagna said this week after winning the Round 19 Rising Star nomination.
“It’s always good to kick goals and get some crumbs, but our main role would definitely be just putting on pressure.”
The Tigers have been questioned over the lack of a second key forward, but they have found another way to score this season via an army of small forwards applying manic pressure to the opposition.
Champion Data statistics revealed in The Drill podcast show Richmond has five players ranked elite or above average for forward-half pressure: Daniel Rioli (elite), Dan Butler (elite), Shai Bolton (above average), Castagna (above average) and full-forward Jack Riewoldt (above average).
Rioli and Castagna rank in the top five in the AFL for creating forward-half turnovers, and for points generated from those turnovers.
TURNOVERS CREATED BY GENERAL FORWARDS
1 Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti 65
2 Alex Neal-Bullen 62
3 Jeff Garlett 59
4 Daniel Rioli 53
5 Jason Castagna 52
POINTS FROM TURNOVERS CREATED BY GENERAL FORWARDS
1 Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti 93
2 Alex Neal-Bullen 62
3 Jeff Garlett 61
4 Daniel Rioli 49
5 Jason Castagna 49
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/top-afl-forwardhalf-pressure-numbers-revealed-in-the-drill-podcast/news-story/ccfa5915beec1bedf0b446e0a486b268
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Interesting that melbourne have 2 small fwds ahead of our 2 in these respective stats but havent heard it mentioned in the media
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Because Butler is also very high in this stat so the three of them generate even higher numbers. Add Bolton when he is there and wow! :shh
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Pressure acts by the 3 amigos vs Hawthorn on the weekend:
Rioli 29 .... plus 7 tackles
Butler 22
Castagna 12
Source: The Age website
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Two of the three amigos - Rioli and Butler - have been named in the AFL players association's Best 22 Under 22 squad.
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/afl-players-22under22-voting-opens1/
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Pressure acts by the 3 amigos vs Hawthorn on the weekend:
Rioli 29 .... plus 7 tackles
Butler 22
Castagna 12
Source: The Age website
I know hes not in the fwd line ut at 181cm and with 11 tackles, Graham is the Amigo of the midfield
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Dan Butler (Richmond)
His speed has been instrumental in getting the Tigers into the top four and he is fourth at Richmond for forward 50 pressure acts per game.
Jason Castagna (Richmond)
The other half of the dynamic Butler-Castagna duo ranks fourth in the competition for pressure acts applied inside the forward 50.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-29/the-stats-files-what-makes-your-rising-star-stand-out
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Butler has been terrific the last month or so.
Ball use has been excellent, finding a target inside 50 and making the right decision.
You can tell he's been working on decision making after getting caught out a few times during the year. It also seems like he's breaking a few tackles that he wasn't earlier on. I think he's had the best year out of the amigoes. Another pre season, more fitness and strength and he will be very dangerous imo.
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Butlers set shot for goal has been very reliable lately .
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Pressure first, goals second for Tiger smalls
afl.com.au
10 September 2017
RICHMOND'S small forwards know a lack of goals won't cost them their spots in the team this September as long as they keep applying the fearsome defensive pressure that rattled Geelong on Friday night.
Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli combined for just two of the Tigers' 13 goals in Friday night's win, but their defensive pressure was a standout feature in a win that has sent the Tigers through to a home preliminary final.
In a game that was played between the arcs for long periods, they still combined for 48 pressure acts, with Richmond laying 21 tackles inside 50 to Geelong's four.
Butler said the Tigers' coaches viewed goals and possessions from their small forwards as a bonus, giving the trio the freedom to focus on a defensive aspect of their games they know they can deliver every week.
"They (the coaches) just speak about playing the game and playing on our talent and to our strengths, but all they're worried about is how much pressure we put on," Butler told AFL.com.au.
"We have weeks where we have three or four touches but we apply good pressure, so that's why we stay in the team.
"We played our role pretty well (against the Cats). All we try and do is put pressure on and then if we get kicks, marks, handballs, goals that's just a bonus.
"Our main role is to put pressure on for the team and provide supports for the midfielders and backs."
Coach Damien Hardwick praised his group's defensive pressure on Friday night and the ability to create seven forward-half turnover goals against the Cats.
With a game-plan based on defence, Butler said the small forwards could take their pressure to higher levels if the Tigers' preliminary final against Greater Western Sydney or West Coast is more contested.
"The scrappier it is the better it is for us as small forwards, because we're always there to pounce and apply pressure and tackle," he said.
"I think we've played in all different conditions this year and played well.
"But that was the highest pressure game I've played in, especially with the crowd … it was definitely hard to block out but it was a pretty exciting night."
Butler said he could not have imagined having the impact he has this season when he made his debut in round one, after missing his first year (2015) because of a knee injury and spending last year in the VFL.
The 21-year-old has missed only two games because of a groin injury this season and kicked 27 goals, also averaging 4.7 score involvements a game.
Richmond's small forwards against Geelong
Dan Butler
Pressure acts: 13
Tackles: five
Tackles inside 50: three
Score involvements: three
Disposals: nine
Scores: 1.1
Daniel Rioli
Pressure acts: 16
Tackles: four
Tackles inside 50: two
Score involvements: five
Disposals: eight
Scores: 0.0
Jason Castagna
Pressure acts: 19
Tackles: four
Tackles inside 50: two
Score involvements: two
Disposals: six
Scores: 1.0
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-10/pressure-first-goals-second-for-tiger-smalls
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Pressure first, goals second for Tiger smalls
afl.com.au
10 September 2017
RICHMOND'S small forwards know a lack of goals won't cost them their spots in the team this September as long as they keep applying the fearsome defensive pressure that rattled Geelong on Friday night.
Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli combined for just two of the Tigers' 13 goals in Friday night's win, but their defensive pressure was a standout feature in a win that has sent the Tigers through to a home preliminary final.
In a game that was played between the arcs for long periods, they still combined for 48 pressure acts, with Richmond laying 21 tackles inside 50 to Geelong's four.
Butler said the Tigers' coaches viewed goals and possessions from their small forwards as a bonus, giving the trio the freedom to focus on a defensive aspect of their games they know they can deliver every week.
"They (the coaches) just speak about playing the game and playing on our talent and to our strengths, but all they're worried about is how much pressure we put on," Butler told AFL.com.au.
"We have weeks where we have three or four touches but we apply good pressure, so that's why we stay in the team.
"We played our role pretty well (against the Cats). All we try and do is put pressure on and then if we get kicks, marks, handballs, goals that's just a bonus.
"Our main role is to put pressure on for the team and provide supports for the midfielders and backs."
Coach Damien Hardwick praised his group's defensive pressure on Friday night and the ability to create seven forward-half turnover goals against the Cats.
With a game-plan based on defence, Butler said the small forwards could take their pressure to higher levels if the Tigers' preliminary final against Greater Western Sydney or West Coast is more contested.
"The scrappier it is the better it is for us as small forwards, because we're always there to pounce and apply pressure and tackle," he said.
"I think we've played in all different conditions this year and played well.
"But that was the highest pressure game I've played in, especially with the crowd … it was definitely hard to block out but it was a pretty exciting night."
Butler said he could not have imagined having the impact he has this season when he made his debut in round one, after missing his first year (2015) because of a knee injury and spending last year in the VFL.
The 21-year-old has missed only two games because of a groin injury this season and kicked 27 goals, also averaging 4.7 score involvements a game.
Richmond's small forwards against Geelong
Dan Butler
Pressure acts: 13
Tackles: five
Tackles inside 50: three
Score involvements: three
Disposals: nine
Scores: 1.1
Daniel Rioli
Pressure acts: 16
Tackles: four
Tackles inside 50: two
Score involvements: five
Disposals: eight
Scores: 0.0
Jason Castagna
Pressure acts: 19
Tackles: four
Tackles inside 50: two
Score involvements: two
Disposals: six
Scores: 1.0
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-10/pressure-first-goals-second-for-tiger-smalls
All really simular numbers.... and it's been the same all year
That's why I don't get why people want George dropped and not Rioli or even Buttler??
Anyway there is no way in hell any of them get dropped regardless of how Bolton is going in the twos. He will get his chance at some stage but unless there is an injury it won't be this year.
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Its simple; Castanga is the worst kick out the three and fumbles the most
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Its simple; Castanga is the worst kick out the three and fumbles the most
Yep that sums it up well
Throw in decision making and Rioli & Butler are ahead by a fair way
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Agree. Having said that he has the biggest body out of the three and is probably the fastest in a flat out foot race.
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If it ain't broke why fix .
Bolton could turn out to be the best , his time will come in 2018 and beyond.
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If it ain't broke why fix .
Bolton could turn out to be the best , his time will come in 2018 and beyond.
because we need to be proactive and not assume oh we won so no changes need to be made. If we say hypothetically were playing Adelaide or Sydney next week, you would think the club will try and bring in more contested ball winners. It is still crazy to me that the club only makes serious-ish changes when we lose by 10+ goals.
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Would be a bit sad if George goes to Carlton but its nice to have Bolton & the other aboriginal wizard waiting in the wings :shh
I doubt the club would allow Lennon, George, Lloyd to all leave?
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If it ain't broke why fix .
Bolton could turn out to be the best , his time will come in 2018 and beyond.
because we need to be proactive and not assume oh we won so no changes need to be made. If we say hypothetically were playing Adelaide or Sydney next week, you would think the club will try and bring in more contested ball winners. It is still crazy to me that the club only makes serious-ish changes when we lose by 10+ goals.
Well said :bow
It isn't 1955 any more. The if it ain't broken don't fix it mentality is outdated. We should be playin the strongest team whatever that is
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Its simple; Castanga is the worst kick out the three and fumbles the most
Yep that sums it up well
Throw in decision making and Rioli & Butler are ahead by a fair way
I can't argue with what Chunky said but I don't think Butler is a better decision maker. He gets caught holding the ball the most in our side per touch imo.
Also George does things the other two don't and it was evident the other night and that's he gives us a contest in the air. I counted at least 3 times the ball came in high and he made a contest and brought the footy to ground and even took one then went on to kick the goal.
I don't want Rioli dropped but the think his output is so far ahead of George is ridiculous and yet only a few can see it.
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Its simple; Castanga is the worst kick out the three and fumbles the most
Yep that sums it up well
Throw in decision making and Rioli & Butler are ahead by a fair way
I can't argue with what Chunky said but I don't think Butler is a better decision maker. He gets caught holding the ball the most in our side per touch imo.
Also George does things the other two don't and it was evident the other night and that's he gives us a contest in the air. I counted at least 3 times the ball came in high and he made a contest and brought the footy to ground and even took one then went on to kick the goal.
I don't want Rioli dropped but the think his output is so far ahead of George is ridiculous and yet only a few can see it.
That is a key thing too - when we are such a small team
George is also harder and more loco than rioli/butler :thumbsup
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Two of the three amigos - Rioli and Butler - have been named in the AFL players association's Best 22 Under 22 squad.
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/afl-players-22under22-voting-opens1/
Rioli has been named tonight on the bench in the Best 22 Under 22 team:
(http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/22under22image.jpg)
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/22under22-for-2017-revealed/
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Rioli :cheers
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LMAO Big Note has just had a coronary
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Only got in because of his surname..... :shh
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
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Didn't realise Ollie Wines was that young
Gun
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
Boom tish....
Nice deflection.
Simple question- do you think Daniel Rioli has had a year to deserve to be in that side?
Come on, you can say it....
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Yes.
Who do you think should've been selected ahead of him?
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Yes.
Who do you think should've been selected ahead of him?
Inbefore Georgie boy...
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I say well done Daniel.
Why would you blokes be a bunch of haters and not accept Daniels good fortune?
He brings it every week with pressure acts and just because he doesn't get 45 meaningless possessions every week you think his spot is undeserved.
You really do need to look more closely at what Daniel brings to the table.
We are lucky to have such a quality player and individual at RFC.
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
Boom tish....
Nice deflection.
Simple question- do you think Daniel Rioli has had a year to deserve to be in that side?
Come on, you can say it....
Come on bt.
The players themselves picked the team. I would think they would know better than the rest of us .......
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I say well done Daniel.
Why would you blokes be a bunch of haters and not accept Daniels good fortune?
He brings it every week with pressure acts and just because he doesn't get 45 meaningless possessions every week you think his spot is undeserved.
You really do need to look more closely at what Daniel brings to the table.
We are lucky to have such a quality player and individual at RFC.
:clapping :clapping
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I say well done Daniel.
Why would you blokes be a bunch of haters and not accept Daniels good fortune?
He brings it every week with pressure acts and just because he doesn't get 45 meaningless possessions every week you think his spot is undeserved.
You really do need to look more closely at what Daniel brings to the table.
We are lucky to have such a quality player and individual at RFC.
:clapping :clapping
Well it is just one hater
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
Boom tish....
Nice deflection.
Simple question- do you think Daniel Rioli has had a year to deserve to be in that side?
Come on, you can say it....
Come on bt.
The players themselves picked the team. I would think they would know better than the rest of us .......
The "fans" voted for that side, not the players.
Idiots like Chunky71 that paint their face and wear a yellow wig that don't even go to the games.
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Yes.
Who do you think should've been selected ahead of him?
Without even looking, Lachie Hunter
Thoughts?
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I say well done Daniel.
Why would you blokes be a bunch of haters and not accept Daniels good fortune?
He brings it every week with pressure acts and just because he doesn't get 45 meaningless possessions every week you think his spot is undeserved.
You really do need to look more closely at what Daniel brings to the table.
We are lucky to have such a quality player and individual at RFC.
:clapping
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
>:(
What rubbish are you babbling on about. Rioli is very good
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
>:(
What rubbish are you babbling on about. Rioli is very good
"Rioli is good"
Now that was well thought out, intelligent and well said.
Thanks for your input. :wallywink
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Just for a reasonability test can anyone else actually confirm if they don't think Rioli should have made it.
As I make it at the moment we have about 10 that think he should have and one that thinks he shouldn't have
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Just for a reasonability test can anyone else actually confirm if they don't think Rioli should have made it.
As I make it at the moment we have about 10 that think he should have and one that thinks he shouldn't have
11
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Just for a reasonability test can anyone else actually confirm if they don't think Rioli should have made it.
As I make it at the moment we have about 10 that think he should have and one that thinks he shouldn't have
Big deal!
It took most on here about 5 years to realise BEllis is a scared little girl. Houli too.
Now most agree with me. Francis Hackson is still in love but I think it has more to do than just his footy ability. :thumbsup
It's time to grow up mate, you have definitely cut the stupid dad jokes back but now it's time to stop all your other baiting crap.
You and another poster this week basically made up a whole lot of poo about me being related to young Goroge just because I happen to think he has been better than Rioli this year. Just childish crap!
Is it ok if I think Rioli is massively overrated without you jumping on everything I say?
I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on why you think Rioli has been so good this year but all you do is snipe from the cheap seats and never really discuss your opinion. Your argument is you disagree with me? Add something buddy, it's so much more enjoyable for everyone else.
I have said this many times, I don't dislike Rioli but I think he gets afforded more concessions than other players with the same or better output. Blind Freddy can see that.
Over to you Chunky71
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Just for a reasonability test can anyone else actually confirm if they don't think Rioli should have made it.
As I make it at the moment we have about 10 that think he should have and one that thinks he shouldn't have
Big deal!
It took most on here about 5 years to realise BEllis is a scared little girl. Houli too.
Yeah but you also thought George was a good kick
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Just for a reasonability test can anyone else actually confirm if they don't think Rioli should have made it.
As I make it at the moment we have about 10 that think he should have and one that thinks he shouldn't have
Big deal!
It took most on here about 5 years to realise BEllis is a scared little girl. Houli too.
Yeah but you also thought George was a good kick
And for a scared girl, he made a decent fist of confronting Danger head on last Friday.
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What happened to my post about Castagna thanking Zio Antonio?
Was it deleted? What the hell for?
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Would seriously consider Bolton for George nest week.
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Need them to all to contribute and kick a few goals and stop there man to.
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we get a bit of success and the blinkers go on with most people.
All three of the little fellas have been okay but have also been poor in areas. they have beenvery good with one aspect of the game thats pressure. Unfortunately for all three there is more than just one element to the game.
consistently getting a bit of ball consistently kicking goals and actually laying effective tackles and if people think the three have been outstanding when it comes to tackles then they need to think again.
We can be better but we can only be better if these players improve those elements of their games that are lacking.
We have struggled to kick goals far too often especuially against top 12 teams or there abouts i dont think anyone can deny that.
PEOPLE ARENT HAVING A SHOT THEY ARE JUST POINTING OUT WHAT THEY HAVE NOT DONE WELL so stop being so precious about players and raise your expectations.
Have said all yr why cant or couldnt we play C Moore and expect the same sort of pressure he sure has similar pace to the three little fellas.
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
not sure you watch games at all.How can people talk our own up so much yet talk down others who have clearly been better.Fmd most around here were talking about giving him a spell because of his poor form.he has basically played at or near that level all yr apart from the odd game here or there.
One criticism of Rioli is his inability to get the ball sicilys last 7 games alone he accumulated 25, 25 26, 27, 29, 29 and 31. numbers rioli at this stage can only dream of.
Those pesky stats just making fools of people.
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Pick the odd one out of that team... :lol
It's laughable.
Not even you two would agree his year has warranted that.... surely?
Even Rioli would be embarrassed
I agree, Sicily was extremely lucky and indeed, even Cyril would be embarrassed for his teammate....
not sure you watch games at all.How can people talk our own up so much yet talk down others who have clearly been better.Fmd most around here were talking about giving him a spell because of his poor form.he has basically played at or near that level all yr apart from the odd game here or there.
One criticism of Rioli is his inability to get the ball sicilys last 7 games alone he accumulated 25, 25 26, 27, 29, 29 and 31. numbers rioli at this stage can only dream of.
Those pesky stats just making fools of people.
1 Rioli possesion = 10 Sicily possessions.....
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Sicily actual last 7 games
14 - 29 - 26 - 29 - 27 - 13 - 31
Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
So I will start by pointing out that they are complete rubbish.
Secondly, what is the relevance?
Sicily tackles last 7 games
1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0
Rioli tackles last 7 games
1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2
Sicily kicked 1 goal 1 behind in the 7 games.
Rioli kicked 8 goals 3 behinds in the 7 games.
One is a tall playing loose in defence, the other is a small forward.
Why don't we compare how many hitouts Max Gawn gets compared to Eddie Betts. It's about the same relevance.
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Sicily actual last 7 games
14 - 29 - 26 - 29 - 27 - 13 - 31
Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
So I will start by pointing out that they are complete rubbish.
Secondly, what is the relevance?
Sicily tackles last 7 games
1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0
Rioli tackles last 7 games
1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2
Sicily kicked 1 goal 1 behind in the 7 games.
Rioli kicked 8 goals 3 behinds in the 7 games.
One is a tall playing loose in defence, the other is a small forward.
Why don't we compare how many hitouts Max Gawn gets compared to Eddie Betts. It's about the same relevance.
Those pesky stats just making fools of people.
:shh
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Sicily actual last 7 games
14 - 29 - 26 - 29 - 27 - 13 - 31
Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
So I will start by pointing out that they are complete rubbish.
Secondly, what is the relevance?
Sicily tackles last 7 games
1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0
Rioli tackles last 7 games
1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2
Sicily kicked 1 goal 1 behind in the 7 games.
Rioli kicked 8 goals 3 behinds in the 7 games.
One is a tall playing loose in defence, the other is a small forward.
Why don't we compare how many hitouts Max Gawn gets compared to Eddie Betts. It's about the same relevance.
Those pesky stats just making fools of people.
:shh
:lol
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:snidegrin
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Sicily actual last 7 games
14 - 29 - 26 - 29 - 27 - 13 - 31
Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
So I will start by pointing out that they are complete rubbish.
Secondly, what is the relevance?
Sicily tackles last 7 games
1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0
Rioli tackles last 7 games
1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2
Sicily kicked 1 goal 1 behind in the 7 games.
Rioli kicked 8 goals 3 behinds in the 7 games.
One is a tall playing loose in defence, the other is a small forward.
Why don't we compare how many hitouts Max Gawn gets compared to Eddie Betts. It's about the same relevance.
One of the great takedowns. Bravo :bow
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Sicily actual last 7 games
14 - 29 - 26 - 29 - 27 - 13 - 31
Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
So I will start by pointing out that they are complete rubbish.
Secondly, what is the relevance?
Sicily tackles last 7 games
1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0
Rioli tackles last 7 games
1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 2
Sicily kicked 1 goal 1 behind in the 7 games.
Rioli kicked 8 goals 3 behinds in the 7 games.
One is a tall playing loose in defence, the other is a small forward.
Why don't we compare how many hitouts Max Gawn gets compared to Eddie Betts. It's about the same relevance.
:clapping
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lol Sicilys yr after the bye playing mainly as a hbf.
rnd 14 - 25
rnd 15 - 25
rnd 16 - 22
Rnd 17 - 14 my bad its still more disposals than Rioli gets.
rnd 18 - 29
rnd 20 - 29
rnd 21 - 29
rnd 22 -13
rnd 23 - 31
no one can deny unlike Rioli he has shown he can CONSISTENTLY get his hands on the ball.THOse a good stats for any player as well
Before rnd 14 he played mainly as a medium sized marking fwd ah a period where we can compare
RND 1 - 11 disposals 0 goals and was dropped for poor performance something that should have happened to Rioli through the yr but didnt.
RND 2 - dnp
rnd 3 - dnp
rnd 4 - 15 disposals two goals ten marks three of them contested more than did his job id say
rnd 5 - 17 disposals zero goals five marks
rnd 6 - 12 disposals one goal six marks two of them contested.
Rnd 7 - 7 disposals 0 goals three marks two contested
Rnd 8 - Dnp most likely got dropped but could have been injury.
rnd 9 - 12 disposals 3 goals 3 marks one contested.
rnd 10 - 13 disposals 1 goal 3 marks zero contested.
rnd 11 - 11 disposals 2 goals 3 marks two contested
rnd 12 - 13 disposals zero goals 3 marks zero contested.
rnd 13 bye.
and this at a time when they were getting belted and not a lot of ball getting fwd in a lot of games.
Simple fact is sicily has performed just as well Rioli as a fwd yeah rioli wins in the defensive stakes but sicily wins in the airOn top of that he has been very good as a defender.
Unlike Rioli Sicily actually got dropped for poor performances.
What i dont get is the ability of our supporters to talk up a player who has done jack poo so far and was horrible for big chunks of the yr but then stick the boots into a bloke who has done just as much and much more when he went back and played as a defender.Why are our supporters such a closed book is it an inferioity complex or what.
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those amigos a really special arent they.
not a lot of ball not a lot of goals and unlike the gullible who think they are tackling machines their tackling numbers are just average.
Hmm Butler
11.6 dis
1.3 gls
3.4 tckls
Castagna
11.3 dis
1.0 gls
3.0 tcls
Rioli
10.7 dis
0.8 gls
3.2 tckls
AND THEY ARE TALKED UP AS SOME SORT OF PHENOMENON.
Good for just 3 goals a game between them.Dont get a lot of ball averaging just 11 . 2 disposals each per game as a collective. And fmd the much hyped about tackling pressure their tackling is average and the numbers are not huge.
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they must be doing something right claw ?
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those amigos a really special arent they.
not a lot of ball not a lot of goals and unlike the gullible who think they are tackling machines their tackling numbers are just average.
Hmm Butler
11.6 dis
1.3 gls
3.4 tckls
Castagna
11.3 dis
1.0 gls
3.0 tcls
Rioli
10.7 dis
0.8 gls
3.2 tckls
AND THEY ARE TALKED UP AS SOME SORT OF PHENOMENON.
Good for just 3 goals a game between them.Dont get a lot of ball averaging just 11 . 2 disposals each per game as a collective. And fmd the much hyped about tackling pressure their tackling is average and the numbers are not huge.
Pressure acts include much more than tackling claw.
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lol Sicilys yr after the bye playing mainly as a hbf.
rnd 14 - 25
rnd 15 - 25
rnd 16 - 22
Rnd 17 - 14 my bad its still more disposals than Rioli gets.
rnd 18 - 29
rnd 20 - 29
rnd 21 - 29
rnd 22 -13
rnd 23 - 31
no one can deny unlike Rioli he has shown he can CONSISTENTLY get his hands on the ball.THOse a good stats for any player as well
Before rnd 14 he played mainly as a medium sized marking fwd ah a period where we can compare
RND 1 - 11 disposals 0 goals and was dropped for poor performance something that should have happened to Rioli through the yr but didnt.
RND 2 - dnp
rnd 3 - dnp
rnd 4 - 15 disposals two goals ten marks three of them contested more than did his job id say
rnd 5 - 17 disposals zero goals five marks
rnd 6 - 12 disposals one goal six marks two of them contested.
Rnd 7 - 7 disposals 0 goals three marks two contested
Rnd 8 - Dnp most likely got dropped but could have been injury.
rnd 9 - 12 disposals 3 goals 3 marks one contested.
rnd 10 - 13 disposals 1 goal 3 marks zero contested.
rnd 11 - 11 disposals 2 goals 3 marks two contested
rnd 12 - 13 disposals zero goals 3 marks zero contested.
rnd 13 bye.
and this at a time when they were getting belted and not a lot of ball getting fwd in a lot of games.
Simple fact is sicily has performed just as well Rioli as a fwd yeah rioli wins in the defensive stakes but sicily wins in the airOn top of that he has been very good as a defender.
Unlike Rioli Sicily actually got dropped for poor performances.
What i dont get is the ability of our supporters to talk up a player who has done jack poo so far and was horrible for big chunks of the yr but then stick the boots into a bloke who has done just as much and much more when he went back and played as a defender.Why are our supporters such a closed book is it an inferioity complex or what.
Haha!...You are wasting your time mate when it comes to the untouchable Rioli.
According to Chunky71 and his band of merry men, he is our best player. After all the "fans" voted him into the AA under 22 side. :wallywink
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those amigos a really special arent they.
not a lot of ball not a lot of goals and unlike the gullible who think they are tackling machines their tackling numbers are just average.
Hmm Butler
11.6 dis
1.3 gls
3.4 tckls
Castagna
11.3 dis
1.0 gls
3.0 tcls
Rioli
10.7 dis
0.8 gls
3.2 tckls
AND THEY ARE TALKED UP AS SOME SORT OF PHENOMENON.
Good for just 3 goals a game between them.Dont get a lot of ball averaging just 11 . 2 disposals each per game as a collective. And fmd the much hyped about tackling pressure their tackling is average and the numbers are not huge.
Pressure acts include much more than tackling claw.
PPFFTT pressure acts have you seen what is included in those stats.
I keep saying it we can do better because atm we are getting just a small part of the whole from all three. they are literally glass half fulls or empty depending on how you look at it.
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those amigos a really special arent they.
not a lot of ball not a lot of goals and unlike the gullible who think they are tackling machines their tackling numbers are just average.
Hmm Butler
11.6 dis
1.3 gls
3.4 tckls
Castagna
11.3 dis
1.0 gls
3.0 tcls
Rioli
10.7 dis
0.8 gls
3.2 tckls
AND THEY ARE TALKED UP AS SOME SORT OF PHENOMENON.
Good for just 3 goals a game between them.Dont get a lot of ball averaging just 11 . 2 disposals each per game as a collective. And fmd the much hyped about tackling pressure their tackling is average and the numbers are not huge.
Pressure acts include much more than tackling claw.
PPFFTT pressure acts have you seen what is included in those stats.
I keep saying it we can do better because atm we are getting just a small part of the whole from all three. they are literally glass half fulls or empty depending on how you look at it.
Sure they have plenty of improvement left and that's exciting. But even you have to admit, our small forwards as a group have been a massive part of our resurgence this year
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those amigos a really special arent they.
not a lot of ball not a lot of goals and unlike the gullible who think they are tackling machines their tackling numbers are just average.
Hmm Butler
11.6 dis
1.3 gls
3.4 tckls
Castagna
11.3 dis
1.0 gls
3.0 tcls
Rioli
10.7 dis
0.8 gls
3.2 tckls
AND THEY ARE TALKED UP AS SOME SORT OF PHENOMENON.
Good for just 3 goals a game between them.Dont get a lot of ball averaging just 11 . 2 disposals each per game as a collective. And fmd the much hyped about tackling pressure their tackling is average and the numbers are not huge.
Pressure acts include much more than tackling claw.
PPFFTT pressure acts have you seen what is included in those stats.
I keep saying it we can do better because atm we are getting just a small part of the whole from all three. they are literally glass half fulls or empty depending on how you look at it.
Sure they have plenty of improvement left and that's exciting. But even you have to admit, our small forwards as a group have been a massive part of our resurgence this year
Not sure i can agree with that on one hand they have helped and on the other been a part of a big problem.
Look we had to improve our ball movement and our pressure not just in the fwd half but all over the ground.. they have helped in the pressure and tackling stakes but fmd it had to improve because it could be no worse than what it was.
Fmd Vickery, Griffiths Riewoldt all slow for talls and two of em id classify dinosaurs. throw in LLoyd a slowish sml fwd lennon another slow medium fwd and it was never going to be hard to IMPROVE fwd half pressure and tackling.
So yes they have helped immensely but they are glass half fulls and only address the defensive side of the equation.
I think they are over hped and their performance over rated.Im certainly hoping we are looking at blokes who can kick 35 50 goals a yr find a decent amount of ball and hopefully spend some time as a part of rotations.
but they do need to tackle and harass i would have thought that is a given. I suppose these things have been so rare at tigerland that when we get em we forgive what is poor.
Maybe rioli castagna and butler can round their games out but atm it is a bit of give and take we get pressure but dont get scoreboard impact or a lot of ball in hand.
Win lose or draw this yr it is something that needs to be addressed.
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Claw BS Sicily last 7 games
25 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 29 - 29 - 31
Claw was actually just trying to show us he can count from 25 to 32 but he got a little confused along the way
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Rioli bump Claw
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A couple posters look as dumb as dog poo now
Go Rioli
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go rioli :gotigers
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Tonight a prime example of what everyone saw in the Rioli vs Castagna debate (apart from Big Note)
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Castagna is better than Rioli :shh :shh :shh
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I thought castagna was brilliant early. Rioli converted. Riolis best game easily
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Rioli is heaps cleaner, deadlier near the goals, Castagna is much better in the air for mine and both put great pressure on, Rioli is a better tackler. Castagna fumbles a lot and misses sodas but seems to win more ball.
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Funny game footy.
I thought Castagna was very average today. He is competitive and has a real crack, but his decision making is going to cost us big time sometime, and I pray it isn't next week.
He must read the play very well because he is often around the ball when it is in our forward half, which makes his ropey decision making all the more difficult to understand.
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I'm more than happy for Castagna to play as it works but bugger me he is a crap set shot for goal, general kick and hand passer lol.
God love him but he has had some serious clangers the last few weeks. I'll back him but ge wiz
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Dont think George was that bad.One thing tho finds the footy more then others.
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Just waiting on the combined stats for the amigos followed by a rant on how they aren't getting enough possessions
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Just waiting on the combined stats for the amigos followed by a rant on how they aren't getting enough possessions
Keep in mind Sicily would have had 30
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Just waiting on the combined stats for the amigos followed by a rant on how they aren't getting enough possessions
Keep in mind Sicily would have had 30
Stuff yeah he is such a good player that Sicily I wish I was a Hawks supporter just so I could barrack for him
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Castagna is a competitor but he is the absolute worst decision maker in the team.
Time and again he makes the wrong decision and his foot skills are atrocious.
Doesn't have a footy brain that's for sure. Really just a dumb arse in a footy sense.
I wouldn't blink if he was dropped for Bolton. Actually I'd be relieved.
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Just waiting on the combined stats for the amigos followed by a rant on how they aren't getting enough possessions
Keep in mind Sicily would have had 30
i think we should look at a trade - direct swap
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A couple posters look as dumb as dog poo now
Go Rioli
They always did......legends in their own minds..... :shh
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George almost took mark of the century :lol
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How funny was the handball that Castagna received with his face? In all fairness he is dangerous around the contest and his ground ball gets are fantastic. Not bad in the air either. But his set shot kicking.......Geez Geez!
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How funny was the handball that Castagna received with his face? In all fairness he is dangerous around the contest and his ground ball gets are fantastic. Not bad in the air either. But his set shot kicking.......Geez Geez!
There were some real Benny Hill moments, that handball over the line was pretty funny
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A couple posters look as dumb as dog poo now
Go Rioli
They always did......legends in their own minds..... :shh
How is Lambert travelling Dio?
What was it again, AFL dud?
If you don't remember I know a sad little man that will go searching through old posts for kicks :wallywink
Went out on a limb calling a rookie a dud and it's made you look like a fool....
:lol
Too funny!
AFL dud- classic!!
Come on, gives some feedback on the AFL dud, with a slice of humble pie.
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I think Lambo is a gun, questioned why he was in the team at the beginning of the year. Equally, Rioli basically kept us in the game - each goal was crucial which we all know George would or couldn't do.
I guess my point is that we all get it wrong every now and again. It's to be human
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A couple posters look as dumb as dog poo now
Go Rioli
They always did......legends in their own minds..... :shh
How is Lambert travelling Dio?
What was it again, AFL dud?
If you don't remember I know a sad little man that will go searching through old posts for kicks :wallywink
Went out on a limb calling a rookie a dud and it's made you look like a fool....
:lol
Too funny!
AFL dud- classic!!
Come on, gives some feedback on the AFL dud, with a slice of humble pie.
"suburban footballer" wasn't it :shh
Nope, jet
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hand pass receive by face should be a new stat they keep
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The tiny tiger who typifies Richmond's new brand of footy
September 26, 2017
Sarah Olle
FOX SPORTS
JASON Castagna typifies the brand of footy Richmond has stamped as its own in 2017.
A small forward who prides himself on pressure, he will often go through matches without impacting on the scoreboard.
In the qualifying final against Geelong he fumbled the ball and loomed as a possible omission against the Giants on Saturday at the MCG.
But he kept his spot.
And opened the match with a blistering first quarter that validated the belief Damien Hardwick has had in him, and his vertically challenged teammates, all year.
“I think ‘Dimma’ has had a lot of confidence in us players, and has kept playing us, but I guess we’ve been inconsistent at times,” Castagna told foxfooty.com.au.
“Everyone has that and then they find their form and it pays off.
“I had a couple of quiet weeks. I thought it picked up a little bit last week and I just want to keep on building and hopefully can keep on building towards the Grand Final.”
When Hardwick told Fox Footy’s On The Couch that Richmond would play finals in 2017, few expected the coach to back up his words with action.
Making the Grand Final — after finishing 13th last season — puts the achievement in another stratosphere altogether.
A lot has been made of the new open culture at Punt Road this season, one that has fostered a sense of unity and belonging.
But Castagna said that was only the tip of the iceberg.
“We’ve just built this belief over the season from evidence of good footy,” he said.
“We’ve always said, ‘why not us?’ but we’ve just focused one week at a time. We’ve made it here to the Grand Final. Now we just look forward to that.
“I feel like we’ve been building and building and getting towards our best footy.
“Hopefully we can keep building next week.”
The Richmond ‘mosquito fleet’ — consisting of Castagna, Daniel Rioli and Dan Butler — has undermined the theory that a functioning forward line requires two talls.
And while the Tigers have relied on some input from the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin — and in the latter part of the year Jacob Townsend — to create a winning score, it’s the mosquito fleet, along with Jack Riewoldt, that has been a constant.
“The main thing we focus on is our pressure,” Castagna said.
“Sometimes our offensive output isn’t as high for some of us, but it kind of evens out over the whole season.”
On Saturday it was Rioli who impacted the scoreboard, kicking four goals in a match that only enhanced the reputation of his famous football family.
Castagna said he wasn’t surprised to see his mate have a breakout game, having witnessed his supreme skill at training all year.
“He was pretty special today. He kicked four goals and his pressure was still amazing as well. His pressure was awesome,” Castagna said.
“We know he has so much skill and he can do some pretty amazing things.
“He got on the end of a few today, which he could have easily done in other weeks, but he loves passing off. He was great.”
The last and only time Richmond met Adelaide this year was way back in Round 6, when Don Pyke’s men were victorious by 76 points.
It was one of only two poor losses for the club for the season, the other coming at the hands of St Kilda in Round 16.
Castagna only had eight touches that day, while Butler and Rioli combined for three majors.
Despite the huge margin that Sunday evening, Castagna said Richmond held no fear of meeting the Crows for the big dance.
“Most teams we’ve lost to we’ve come back the second time and had a good outing so we’ll be looking to do that against Adelaide,” Castagna said.
“They were pretty impressive (against Geelong), but at the moment we’re playing a good brand of footy and we’re feeling up for anything. It should be a good game.”
Aiding Richmond’s cause is the location of the match: at home on the familiar MCG turf, a distant cry from the parochial Adelaide Oval cauldron.
“I can’t wait to hear that roar again,” Castagna said.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-tiny-tiger-who-typifies-richmonds-new-brand-of-footy/news-story/592a6ab7c2adb896e388e21eee685393
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A small forward who prides himself on pressure, he will often go through matches without impacting on the scoreboard.
I think he would impact more if he stopped hand balling through the goals, kicking out of bounds on the full, kicking around the body from straight in front and converting easy shots.
All that being said i am a fan of his general play and hope he can tidy up the conversion part of his game.
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A small forward who prides himself on pressure, he will often go through matches without impacting on the scoreboard.
I think he would impact more if he stopped hand balling through the goals, kicking out of bounds on the full, kicking around the body from straight in front and converting easy shots.
All that being said i am a fan of his general play and hope he can tidy up the conversion part of his game.
I thought he was really important on the weekend. I know I have a soft spot for the kid but if anyone watches the replay again, watch George closely. He must have halved about 6 high kicks into our forwardline and very nearly took a couple.
I hope he has a great grand final and we have a win.
There is a lot to like about George.
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Credit where it's due, I think he was probably one of our best in the first quarter and maybe half. Was the only bloke looking dangerous at that point of time. Don't know why he went around the corner for goal though, he's not a horrible set shot (especially compared to his general play kicking). Unfortunately though, he is a bloke we need to look to improve on and I can see Shai taking his spot as early as next year.
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Credit where it's due, I think he was probably one of our best in the first quarter and maybe half. Was the only bloke looking dangerous at that point of time. Don't know why he went around the corner for goal though, he's not a horrible set shot (especially compared to his general play kicking). Unfortunately though, he is a bloke we need to look to improve on and I can see Shai taking his spot as early as next year.
Because he's got no footy brain. He's a hard worker and goes in without thinking but he's one of the worst decision makers I've ever seen. He makes decisions like he fumbles the ball.
If someone can teach him how to think properly and he actually improves his kicking and he learns to choose the correct option he'd be Eddie Betts. :rollin
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Where's Claw
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CAN TIGERS' YOUTHFUL SMALL FORWARDS STAND THE HEAT?
Jay Clark
Herald-Sun
28 September 2017
COACHING legend Malcolm Blight has questioned whether Richmond’s youthful small forwards can stand the heat of Saturday’s Grand Final.
Blight, who coached the Crows to two flags, said the inexperience could be a factor for the Tigers as they attempt to win a drought-breaking flag.
Speedsters Daniel Rioli, 20, Dan Butler, 21, and Jason Castagna, 21, and hard nut Jacob Townsend, 24, have played a key role in the stunning revival this year.
Castagna’s bright opening the crushing win over Greater Western Sydney last weekend has bolstered claims for an improved contract deal next season.
But with a combined total of 129 senior games between then, Blight was unsure of the Tigers mosquito fleet could sizzle again in the decider.
“Richmond have done a remarkable job … but they have got four kids in the forward line,” Blight said.
“Last week they kicked eight goals between them, but for the year they have averaged only one goal each (a game).
“Can they repeat that on Grand Final day?
“The forward youngies, they’re terrific players, but it is hard for 25 or 30-game players to bob up on Grand Final day and consistently through finals.
“That might be the slight difference, because other than that they look really evenly matched.”
Richmond’s small forwards have helped the Tigers become one of the AFL’s top pressure sides but Blight, who was made an AFL Coaches Association legend on Tuesday night, predicted a Crows victory based on their evenness.
Castagna remains unsigned beyond next season and is pushing for a new deal to stay at Punt Rd beyond next season.
While his pace and pressure is believed to have some attracted rival interest, the Warrandyte speedster can go a long way to inking a new agreement with another strong performance at the MCG this weekend.
He has averaged 11 possessions and five score involvements a game this season, but is rated above average for forward line pressure, according to Champion Data.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-september-27-2017/news-story/7c704d3fb5226287806060571f725c3b
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A small forward who prides himself on pressure, he will often go through matches without impacting on the scoreboard.
I think he would impact more if he stopped hand balling through the goals, kicking out of bounds on the full, kicking around the body from straight in front and converting easy shots.
All that being said i am a fan of his general play and hope he can tidy up the conversion part of his game.
I thought he was really important on the weekend. I know I have a soft spot for the kid but if anyone watches the replay again, watch George closely. He must have halved about 6 high kicks into our forwardline and very nearly took a couple.
I hope he has a great grand final and we have a win.
There is a lot to like about George.
I like George too. His tackling is fantastic. His speed is a real asset and he does not shirk from a contest. He does need to work on his kicking particularly for goal. His marking is good. We need him to have an enormous game against the crows.
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Dermott Brereton explains why Richmond’s small forwards hold the key to winning the Grand Final
Dermott Brereton,
Herald Sun
September 29, 2017
SO much has been made of the express pace in the Richmond forward line.
And although the club’s forwards have some genuinely slick wheels, it is another physical attribute that is not getting mentioned that I believe is the reason why the Tigers can win on Saturday.
That is endurance, the raw ability to keep running at full tilt while your opponent drifts behind.
The speedy tackling and pressure players in the forward line like Dan Rioli, Jason Castagna,
Dan Butler and Kane Lambert (when he pushes down through the midfield) are not only quick, but have massive tanks on them.
Trusting the eye, I could see that Rioli has endurance. So when this piqued my interest, it was not surprising to learn that he excelled at the Draft Combine as an 18-year-old.
He had elite speed sure, but he also blitzed the field for the repeat 30m sprint exercise.
Meaning that even before Richmond has built his tank with a couple of years of pre-season training, he had top-end elite stamina and endurance.
I looked at Castagna and the first item that jumps off the page with his combine results is a 15.2 beep test. That is an awesome number, a number that says the boy has endurance in his genes.
If you look at Butler’s scouting profile from the Ballarat Rebels it suggested that he was a tackling machine who ran all day. He averaged six tackles a game as a 17-year-old and had 17 alone in one game.
He was the small forward type that the Tiges were looking for when they were trying to turn Stephen Morris into a pressure forward a few years back.
So you can see the common traits between all these lads — all are lightning fast, but all are endurance beasts.
It’s worth noting that last weekend, in the third quarter when the game was up for grabs, the Giants’ fastest defender Nathan Wilson had to go to the bench to suck in some air and recuperate.
His Richmond opponents did not need to do the same.
And that is what these Richmond small forwards do, they run their opponents to exhaustion.
The class might be there led by Rioli, but don’t be fooled, these guys are fans of the grind.
Since the St Kilda debacle back in Round 16, the Tigers have torn apart the game.
With only one blemish, against Geelong at the narrow Simmonds Stadium arena in Round 21, the Tigers have averaged over 100 points per game since Round 16, which gives them much the same scoring potential as the Crows.
But it is the “grind” that has won me over.
In week one of the finals, Geelong was pretty brave, held at bay by around two goals for most of the match until the last break. Then the Cats just simply could not go with Richmond in the final quarter.
The endurance capabilities of those Richmond forwards were relentless and Geelong, as brave as they were, simply could not run with them or match their intensity.
Against the Giants, if you take out the Tigers’ two opening goals (literally kicked in the opening seconds), the Giants in a game sense were the better team until halfway through the third term. But then the Tigers put the foot down and once again their opponents could not go with them.
In nearly every game of AFL football two teams come out onto the field and go at each other. The first team to blink and drop their pressure gets scored against and that, then, is the game.
Similarly, 99 per cent of teams drop their pressure in the second half, by a lot or if you are a good team, just by a little.
But since Round 17, the Tigers have turned this footy truth on its head. It’s freakish.
Champion Data statistics show us that Tigers’ pressure actually goes up in the second half.
For me there are two major “if’s” for Saturday.
If the Crows blow the Tigers’ defence away in the first half, that is their best chance of success.
But if the Tigers are with hope and within striking distance at three-quarter time, they will overrun the Crows and the cup goes to Punt Rd.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dermott-brereton-explains-why-richmonds-small-forwards-hold-the-key-to-winning-the-grand-final/news-story/e06291dca9a58f63ae94aa31dc0e46e4
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Never been a fan of Dermie after he punched Tony Free from behind 50 metres off play, but enjoyed the facts in that article
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Never been a fan of Dermie after he punched Tony Free from behind 50 metres off play, but enjoyed the facts in that article
There is no way that DH came up with those stats.
Very interesting though
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I have been saying this for ages, it defies belief that they can sprint so much and keep going and that has ground teams into the dirt, with good tall marking sides, it can backfire if they are on and the weather is good because they move it around a lot and it back fires. Saints and Crows got us like that when they dismantled us I reckon. I noticed that we will force sides every now and then to chase kicks around a bit to run em ragged not to chew up time. I saw Geebung and GWS die in the arse at 3/4 time, totally spent. We can turn it around just like we did with the saints and give em a rogering
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He's a bit of a flog but I usually rate Dermies opinion. Seems to know what he's talking about a lot of the time
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Adelaide coach Don Pyke boasting he's not only going to stop our small forwards but use them to the Crows' advantage.
ADELAIDE coach Don Pyke believes the Crows' backline can expose Richmond's mosquito fleet forwards with their superior height in Saturday's Grand Final at the MCG.
Pyke said the Crows thought about making a change, but backed in the likes of Kyle Hartigan and Jake Lever having the pace to compete when the ball hits the deck, while also picking off anything in the air.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-29/pyke-has-the-answer-for-tigers-mosquito-fleet
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Clearly, Adelaide will aim to try to control the corridor and force us wide down the line. Not only to set up Jacobs a kick behind the play but to slow us down and bomb the ball high into our F50. We've counted that in the other finals so far by surging in numbers around the contest and keeping the ball moving forward. That's brought our small forwards into the games and allowed them to have scoreboard impact on top of their collective forward defensive efforts.
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I think when going inside 50 and under pressure we need to basically kick a ground ball rather than just bombing it in.
A mongrel ball at ground level will trouble their defence so much more as it gives our mosquito fleet more opportunity to do their stuff. We have been doing this pretty well up til now and Pyke can say what he wants but such a tactic is extremely hard to counter.
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Laird is another one who competes well in the air. We're going to be pushing poo uphill but where there is a will there is a way.
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picked em like a booger
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"Learning to be an expert kick takes a long time and if you start now, the better prepared you will be when the season starts," said Williams whose last full-time AFL role was as Richmond's head of development. "It's not just a ball for beginners. This ball helped the likes of (Richmond premiership players) Jason Castagna and Dan Butler get right up to AFL standard."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-10/game-changers-why-flags-are-built-in-december
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First time back together this year: 5 goals combined and our famed forward pressure was back in vogue.
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First time back together this year: 5 goals combined and our famed forward pressure was back in vogue.
Rioli seems to be the key component on today's effort.
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The talented trio had a collective tally of 15 tackles, 16 score involvements and five goals (out of the team’s total of 12).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-19/tiger-band-hasnt-missed-a-beat
That's 16 out of a total of 23 :o.