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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 19, 2017, 01:58:27 PM
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Big call, and hey Prestia, it's the right one
Damian Barrett
AFL.com.au
19 April 2017
Dion Prestia made the right call in choosing Richmond over Hawthorn.
DION Prestia saw it coming when no-one else did.
In late July last year, he quietly chose Richmond over Hawthorn as his new football home.
It was a decision that he would not confirm publicly for another five weeks, but one that elicited surprise from many in the football industry.
In the very week he made his decision, round 18 2016, Richmond was belted by Hawthorn by 70 points at the MCG.
The Tigers were in the middle of a nine-game season-ending stretch that yielded just two wins; the Hawks to that stage of 2016 had lost just three matches, sat atop the AFL ladder and were perfectly positioned for a fourth consecutive premiership.
Hawthorn was taken aback. Rejection didn't happen to it. The acquisitions of Shaun Burgoyne, Brian Lake, Josh Gibson, James Frawley, Jack Gunston, even David Hale and Ben McEvoy, had led the club to believe it could not lose when pitching for talent.
However, the Hawks moved on quickly and normal programming was restored when Jaeger O'Meara and Tom Mitchell accepted overtures. The cost was higher than normal, though, and saw the Hawks' first pick in last year's draft coming at No.88, and also saw it relinquishing first- and second-round picks in the 2017 NAB AFL Draft.
Prestia, having spent countless hours analysing the demographics and skill sets of the two clubs' lists, was confident he had chosen wisely in his post-Gold Coast life.
What he liked most when contrasting the Tigers' list with the Hawks' was the opportunity to work with Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin in the midfield. Alex Rance in the backline and Jack Riewoldt in the forward line appealed, too, in a way that trumped the Hawthorn sell.
Richmond rewarded Prestia very nicely for his decision with a five-year contract worth more than $3.5 million. For pick six in last year's national draft and a future second-round pick, the Tigers got Prestia and the 2016 No.24 pick.
North Melbourne and St Kilda also had meaningful discussions about Prestia, but the player himself, from early in 2016, had determined it was Hawthorn versus Richmond.
Many questions were raised when Richmond secured him, and given the new Prestia contract is just four games old, the jury remains out on all aspects.
This column queried the hefty wage being given to Prestia.
Matthew Lloyd said on AFL.com.au's Access All Areas program when assessing Richmond's 2016 season: "(Tigers) ... don't bring in any more recycled players and I'll go a step further – don't bring in Dion Prestia.
"Instead of paying someone $600,000 and giving away pick six in the draft, actually take a kid that you pay minimum wage who you hope will be better than Dion Prestia."
Kane Cornes on Fox Footy: "To target Prestia now, it is not the right call, they're not in the premiership window."
Scott Lucas on SEN: "The issue is from a list management and crystal balling [perspective]. If next year is going to be a rebuild, what does Prestia do? Does he help you win two extra games? Do you want that?
"Or would you rather keep your picks and have another couple of kids (in this year's draft) that are in their prime in three or four years?
"They really should be looking over the next two or three years to acquire as many top-20 picks as they can, however that has to happen."
There is a long way to go in season 2017 and in football terms, an eternity is still to run on Prestia's Richmond contract and Hawthorn's deal with Alastair Clarkson.
But the Tigers are 4-0, the Hawks 0-4. Prestia saw it coming.
Prestia, who will play his 100th AFL match against Melbourne on Monday night, has already emerged as crucial to the Tigers' set up with his hardness at every contest. There are smoother movers in the competition, and he can butcher the odd disposal, but he's averaging 23 of them a game (10 of those contested), along with an average five tackles and average 315m gained.
Prestia is a smart, level-headed 24-year-old who is wired to never get ahead of himself, but in the past month, and particularly the past fortnight, he would have been excused had he nodded knowingly to himself in a mirror, content that the opening rounds of 2017 was evidence he made the right call.
So too, Damien Hardwick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-19/big-call-and-hey-prestia-its-the-right-one
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seems the harshest judges of all are tiger supporters - most ive seen on various websites are underwhelmed with prestia to say the least - for mine, hes nowhere near his best but has been very important to us thus far imo
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seems the harshest judges of all are tiger supporters - most ive seen on various websites are underwhelmed with prestia to say the least - for mine. Hes nowhere near his best but has been very important to us thus far imo
He's clean, smart and has quick hands in the coal-face.
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Not sure I'd say he's clean which is probably his biggest knock.
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Not sure I'd say he's clean which is probably his biggest knock.
He is very clean with his hands. His kicking was good in Round 1 but not so good since.
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Not sure I'd say he's clean which is probably his biggest knock.
stop trolling
jackstar mkII
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Not sure I'd say he's clean which is probably his biggest knock.
He is very clean with his hands. His kicking was good in Round 1 but not so good since.
I agree re: hands being clean but overall as a player I don't think he's that clean because of his kicking skills. Round 1 was good but he gets a fair few clangers. He deserves to be cut some slack because of his role as an inside player but it would be nice to be cleaned up a bit...
As for being a troll (TM ::)), I'm not sure how having a different opinion on a player (which happens to be similar to what some posters and media personnel have said previously) constitutes as being a troll...
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YBB's comment was he was very clean with his handsand you replied that it's probably his biggest knock not being clean.
You then clarified it with your next comment about it relating to his kicking which is fair enough.
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What is this 'clean handsand' everyone keeps talkin about? Some sort of exfoliating liquid?
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What is this 'clean handsand' everyone keeps talkin about? Some sort of exfoliating liquid?
You should try it. Softens them to and helps you with manscaping that eagles nest of yours. :lol
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YBB's comment was he was very clean with his handsand you replied that it's probably his biggest knock not being clean.
You then clarified it with your next comment about it relating to his kicking which is fair enough.
Um, no. The original comment was from Wayne who said "he's clean, smart and has quick hands" which to me reads as he's a clean player overall as he singled out his quick hands as a later point. Whether that is what he meant is up for him to decide. YBB's comment was AFTER I said Prestia isn't a clean player. I suggest you re-read the order of events and understand what is being talked about before you start calling people a troll :wallywink
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thats open to interpretation - For mine, when talking about clean it relates to being a clean one grab player with hands, not kicking. At least thats how my coaches in the day used to talk about it. Lets be honest, you are a bit of a baiter/troll :wallywink
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thats open to interpretation - For mine, when talking about clean it relates to being a clean one grab player with hands, not kicking. At least thats how my coaches in the day used to talk about it. Lets be honest, you are a bit of a baiter/troll :wallywink
What he meant is up to interpretation unless he clarifies but to say I responded to YBB (when he in fact responded to me) is just twisting the story? Perhaps you were trying to troll me? :shh
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thats open to interpretation - For mine, when talking about clean it relates to being a clean one grab player with hands, not kicking. At least thats how my coaches in the day used to talk about it. Lets be honest, you are a bit of a baiter/troll :wallywink
What he meant is up to interpretation unless he clarifies but to say I responded to YBB (when he in fact responded to me) is just twisting the story? Perhaps you were trying to troll me? :shh
umm no.. Its open to interpretation to anybody who reads it - for me I took it clearly that he meant clean hands for the reason I mentioned in the previous post. Whether he meant something else - i have no issue with that - im talking about my interpretation. I wouldnt waste my time tbh
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err EXCUSE me, I too would like to wade into this pile of horse shizer, just lemme think about what I am gonna say >:(
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lets have ourselves a good ol fashioned jamboree
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thats open to interpretation - For mine, when talking about clean it relates to being a clean one grab player with hands, not kicking. At least thats how my coaches in the day used to talk about it. Lets be honest, you are a bit of a baiter/troll :wallywink
What he meant is up to interpretation unless he clarifies but to say I responded to YBB (when he in fact responded to me) is just twisting the story? Perhaps you were trying to troll me? :shh
umm no.. Its open to interpretation to anybody who reads it - for me I took it clearly that he meant clean hands for the reason I mentioned in the previous post. Whether he meant something else - i have no issue with that - im talking about my interpretation. I wouldnt waste my time tbh
What you on about fool? You said it's up for interpretation, I agreed it was up for interpretation but questioned if you were twisting the story by saying I responded to someone who actually responded to me and now you're arguing (while actually agreeing?) that it's up for interpretation. Underlined is my main issue in case you struggle again :wallywink
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I've never heard the expression "clean by foot"
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thats open to interpretation - For mine, when talking about clean it relates to being a clean one grab player with hands, not kicking. At least thats how my coaches in the day used to talk about it. Lets be honest, you are a bit of a baiter/troll :wallywink
What he meant is up to interpretation unless he clarifies but to say I responded to YBB (when he in fact responded to me) is just twisting the story? Perhaps you were trying to troll me? :shh
umm no.. Its open to interpretation to anybody who reads it - for me I took it clearly that he meant clean hands for the reason I mentioned in the previous post. Whether he meant something else - i have no issue with that - im talking about my interpretation. I wouldnt waste my time tbh
What you on about fool? You said it's up for interpretation, I agreed it was up for interpretation but questioned if you were twisting the story by saying I responded to someone who actually responded to me and now you're arguing (while actually agreeing?) that it's up for interpretation. Underlined is my main issue in case you struggle again :wallywink
You're a special kind of stupid arent you? If you really cant understand my point, then youre a bit dumb or a troll, take your pick :shh
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I've never heard the expression "clean by foot"
I dont think many have HRT except for our esteemed site expert - expert on being a backtracking :wallywink
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:lol :lol never said "clean by foot". Said clean as an overall term - including kicking. But once again you continue to twist things to suit your own agenda. :wallywink
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You never said clean by foot but you're including it in your interpretation of clean, ok :lol
:rollin
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You never said clean by foot but you're including it in your interpretation of clean, ok :lol
:rollin
I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt of just being a troll but the reality is I think he is just a special kind of stupid.
Don't waste your time Tony on the peanut.
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Eff me if we were infighting on this forum when we are 4-0, I hate to think what will happen after our first loss or string of lossess :help
Time to bring back one of Ol' Dookie's staples:-
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:lol :lol never said "clean by foot". Said clean as an overall term - including kicking. But once again you continue to twist things to suit your own agenda. :wallywink
I've only ever heard the term "clean by hand" but I get your point, it's seems a touch revisionist to me but could be wrong...
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You never said clean by foot but you're including it in your interpretation of clean, ok :lol
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The fact you don't know the difference speaks volumes. You can join Big Note on the 'don't disagree because they can't handle it list'.
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Prestia looked pretty clean by foot last night :shh
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Looks like he's just plodding along at the moment.
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His toughness was very useful, as well as Caddy. Would like to see them in the middle together a bit more often.
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Thought he was good the other night. Used it well going inside 50.