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AFL ROUND 14
RICHMOND vs Carlton
Sunday, 25th June
3:20 PM AEST
@ the MCG.
No easy games and nowhere to hide in front of another massive crowd. Blues will be up and about after back to back wins. How we respond next week will say it all.
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Docherty believes the Blues have improved since their season opener against the Tigers.
“It’s alway good playing the Tigers. They got us in Round 1 so we are looking to put up a fight and continue a bit of momentum,” he said.
“They are playing some really good footy, they have lost a few games in the last few minutes of footy but they are playing really good four-quarter footy,’’ he told 3AW.
Tagger Ed Curnow will likely take on Dustin Martin after keeping Gary Ablett to 25 possessions while Liam Jones will be handed Richmond’s only tall forward in Jack Riewoldt.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton/sam-docherty-says-carlton-has-improved-significantly-since-round-1-loss-to-richmond/news-story/89c7d02e2e3231af78d64cb7431b250a
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Docherty believes the Blues have improved since their season opener against the Tigers.
“It’s alway good playing the Tigers. They got us in Round 1 so we are looking to put up a fight and continue a bit of momentum,” he said.
“They are playing some really good footy, they have lost a few games in the last few minutes of footy but they are playing really good four-quarter footy,’’ he told 3AW.
Tagger Ed Curnow will likely take on Dustin Martin after keeping Gary Ablett to 25 possessions while Liam Jones will be handed Richmond’s only tall forward in Jack Riewoldt.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton/sam-docherty-says-carlton-has-improved-significantly-since-round-1-loss-to-richmond/news-story/89c7d02e2e3231af78d64cb7431b250a
If Curnow goes to Dusty we should make it our objective for the day to crash into him as many times as possible. To the point of potentially going too far.
It's time we became the aggressor against poo teams like Carlton who try and drag you down to their level.
Make a stand Tigers.
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MCG website is expecting 60k to rock up on Sunday.
Opening times
Gates
Public 1.30pm
AFL Reserve 1.30pm
MCC Reserve 1.00pm
Parking
Gate 3: 11.00am
Gate 5: 12.00pm
Gate 6: 12.00pm
Gate 7: 9.30am
Other information
Estimated attendance
60,000
Sunday Funday - bring the kids!
Children aged under 15 are admitted free to see the match.
General admission seating
Great Southern Stand
M1-M2
Q1-Q4
Q5-Q15 (Rows P-DD)
Ponsford Stand
M28-M36
Q29-Q36
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q50 (Rows R-MM)
Q51-Q57
National Sports Museum
Get to the game early and visit the National Sports Museum before you watch your team run out.
NSM: 10.00am-12.30pm
NSM (event access): 1.00pm-3.00pm
No MCG Tours
Children aged under 15 are admitted free to the National Sports Museum (inside Gate 3) before the game.
Richmond legend Kevin Bartlett will make an appearance in the museum pre-match.
Cheer squad seating
Richmond: Bays M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Carlton: Bay M33 (Rows A-T)
http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/june/richmond-v-carlton-june-25
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80,000. they will smell blood
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We will win and win well . Reality check for them .
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80,000. they will smell blood
Not sure about 80k
But reckon 60k is understating, I thought about 70-72k
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Sunday afternoon always attracts a lot less than Saturday....
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Docherty believes the Blues have improved since their season opener against the Tigers.
“It’s alway good playing the Tigers. They got us in Round 1 so we are looking to put up a fight and continue a bit of momentum,” he said.
“They are playing some really good footy, they have lost a few games in the last few minutes of footy but they are playing really good four-quarter footy,’’ he told 3AW.
Tagger Ed Curnow will likely take on Dustin Martin after keeping Gary Ablett to 25 possessions while Liam Jones will be handed Richmond’s only tall forward in Jack Riewoldt.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton/sam-docherty-says-carlton-has-improved-significantly-since-round-1-loss-to-richmond/news-story/89c7d02e2e3231af78d64cb7431b250a
If Curnow goes to Dusty we should make it our objective for the day to crash into him as many times as possible. To the point of potentially going too far.
It's time we became the aggressor against poo teams like Carlton who try and drag you down to their level.
Make a stand Tigers.
I want this as much as anything, we look like peahearts at the moment losing so many close games, lets show some grit and hurt and beat this mob well.
Sunday afternoon always attracts a lot less than Saturday....
When this mob are not up and about they are likely to get a small crowd, but they are bandwagon supporters and when they win a few like they have, they'll come thinking they are a shot. Let's put them back in their box!
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At least 10 wins and their supporters will be first in line for Grand Final tickets at the start of next season....with Essendon supporters no doubt close behind them...
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I'm going to this game and haven't seen a live loss yet so we are all good.
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Guys I've got a seemingly very stupid question. I'm asking what the best way to buy about 9 tickets for GA would be? Purchase at the gate before the game or buy them online through the club? I've been a member since I was born so I've always had a reserved seat.
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I'm going to this game and haven't seen a live loss yet so we are all good.
...but now you've just mentioned it publicly and jinxed it....nice one.... >:(
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We talk about needing that second tall in our forwardline but in reality we need more scoring from the likes of Caddy (9), Cotchin (9), Grigg (8), Edwards (6)and obviously our small guys.
We get plenty of forward 50 entries we just need to isolate these guys throughout the game.
I notice we have gone away from having a player starting deeper of late.
Imo at every centre square contest, we should have someone start from the goal square.
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The Tigers will be looking to bounce back from the Sydney loss when they meet an in-form Carlton at the MCG on Sunday.
Richmond scored a 43-point win when the two sides met in Round 1 but Hardwick said with the Blues building, this game presented a very different challenge.
“Personnel wise they’re probably similar but they’re playing a more consistent brand of footy,” he said.
“Defensively they’re very good behind the ball. They’ve got some movers behind the ball like (Kade) Simpson and (Sam) Docherty and their good players are playing really well in (Patrick) Cripps, (Marc) Murphy and (Bryce) Gibbs. So if your good players are playing good football it generally drags you along with your form as well.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-hits-back-at-comments-from-danny-frawley-over-mental-disintegration/news-story/dca377a05b910e5c9f37b10edaa45e33
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Richmond enters their clash with Carlton this Sunday wary of Sam Docherty's influence. Docherty has averaged 28 touches across half back this season.
Hardwick indicated his side would look to curb the defender's impact behind the ball.
"He sets up really well, sort of like a goal keeper down there. They go back to him a lot and utilise his offensive prowess to get the ball moving," he said.
"We have to try and take their defence out of the game [and] negate Docherty's influence as best we can."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-rebukes-danny-frawley-over-mental-disintegration-claim-20170621-gwvfq9.html
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Match preview: Richmond v Carlton
afl.com.au
21 June 2017
SUMMARY
Richmond faces an in-form Blues outfit this weekend at the MCG with the Tigers coming off the back of a tough loss to the Swans after they gave up a six-goal lead. Carlton coach Brendon Bolton has the Blues' defensive set up firing, with Kade Simpson and Sam Docherty proving tough to shut down behind the ball in recent weeks. However, the Tigers' speedy small forward line of Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler and new addition Shai Bolton will be out to keep them honest. Dustin Martin's output was slightly down last game with 23 disposals so look out for a reply. Alex Rance will head into the clash with great confidence after blanketing Swans superstar Lance Franklin and keeping him to just one goal. If the Blues win this one, can they be talked about as a serious finals chance? The Tigers will head in as favourites in a game they should win if they want to cement themselves as a top-eight side.
WHEN AND WHERE: MCG, Sunday, June 25, 3.20pm AEST
LAST FIVE TIMES
R1, 2017, Richmond 20.12 (132) d Carlton 14.5 (89) at the MCG
R1, 2016, Richmond 14.8 (92) d Carlton 12.11 (83) at the MCG
R15, 2015, Richmond 10.11 (71) d Carlton 5.11 (41) at the MCG
R1, 2015, Richmond 15.15 (105) d Carlton 11.12 (78) at the MCG
R2, 2014, Richmond 14.14 (98) d Carlton 12.14 (86) at the MCG
THE SIX POINTS
1. Dustin Martin will be firmly on Brendon Bolton's pre-game radar. The Richmond superstar finished the club's round one clash with the Blues with 33 disposals and four goals in a best afield performance.
2. The Tigers head into round 14 ranked last for disposal efficiency, going at 70.9 per cent. The Blues sit only slightly better at 72.8 per cent, and whichever team can use the ball more effectively will go a long way to winning this one.
3. Carlton will be out to upset the trend on Sunday, with Richmond coming away victors in the last five meetings between the two clubs.
4. The Blues are ranked last for inside 50s in 2017, and they will want to give their forwards the best chance of kicking a winning score with Alex Rance patrolling the Richmond defence this weekend.
5. Carlton has found a way to win three from its four games decided by fewer than three goals this season. In contrast, Richmond hs played seven matches decided by three goals or less, winning only three of them.
6. Matthew Kreuzer started the year as the 14th-ranked ruckman in the Schick AFL Player Ratings. His recent form has seen him rise to 10th spot, and Richmond’s Toby Nankervis will have his work cut out stopping Kruezer’s influence around the ground.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR … Levi Casboult
The Blues' power forward has had a lean couple of weeks, kicking just the one goal in his last two outings. Casboult will face the best key defender in the game in Rance this week and will be in for a battle. Bolton’s game-plan makes it tough for his key forward to dominate, however if his form doesn't lift soon young Harry McKay is waiting in the wings at Carlton.
PREDICTION: Richmond by 19 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/match-preview-richmond-v-carlton
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Young Tiger could hold key to beating Blues
By SEN
22 June 2017
SEN footy analyst Terry Wallace has a simple message for Richmond coach Damien Hardwick as the Tigers prepare to tackle Carlton on Sunday.
“Stop Sam Docherty,” the former Tiger coach told SEN’s The Run Home.
“Carlton has been able to dictate and dominate everything they’ve wanted with a plus-one (player) in their defensive end of the ground.
“And it’s all centred around Sam Docherty, and to a lesser degree Kade Simpson.”
Wallace says tagging Docherty, who is averaging 28 disposals, is easier said than done given the Blues ability to switch pieces in order to sneak the club’s reigning best and fairest winner into different positions to break any defensive mechanism deployed to combat him.
“From a Richmond point of view they cannot allow this to happen,” he said.
“Kane Lambert, I think, is the perfect match for Docherty.”
Despite his influence in the Blues’ five wins this season, few sides have attempted to tag the former Brisbane Lion, perhaps because the thought process centres around beating the young and inexperienced Blues purely on talent.
But after upset wins over Greater Western Sydney and Gold Coast it’s likely the Tigers planning for Sunday’s MCG blockbuster takes in ways to short-circuit the Blues’ capacity to dictate the games’ tempo.
“Lambert can play high half forward and can play through the middle of the ground should Docherty move into the middle to break the tag,” Wallace said.
“You’ve go to be committed to send Lambert with him everywhere and also then be aware that Carlton will attempt to swing Simpson into that role behind the ball.
“It’ll be fascinating to watch.”
The Blues have lost the past five matches against the Tigers by an average of 24 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/06/20/young-tiger-could-hold-key-to-beating-blues/
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Can't stand Carlton, in fact I hate them so much Collingwood is my second team, must win game :pray :pray :pray
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Collingwood your second team? My goodness
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CARLTON will monitor important defender Sam Docherty in the lead-up to Sunday’s clash with Richmond, as he has been battling calf soreness.
The Blues expect the All-Australian contender to play against the Tigers on Sunday, but he was very sore following a kick in the calf during last week’s win over Gold Coast.
He hasn’t done a lot on the track so far this week and will have a last hit-out on Saturday morning.
Carlton insist he will be right to play.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/panic-room-late-afl-selection-whispers-for-round-14/news-story/5252b1616632d05e4f26c609ca1099b5
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Richmond v Carlton analysis: Fast-forward Tigers versus go-slow Blues
SAM EDMUND,
Herald Sun
24 June 2017
GAMES are won and lost in the midfield, coaches constantly tell us.
Occasionally they speak of the need to contain a rampant rival forward or quell a brilliant ball winner.
But it says everything about the unique manner in which Carlton is winning games in 2017 that Damien Hardwick didn’t say any of those things.
Instead, the Richmond coach this week uttered words rarely heard in this sport.
“We’ve got to take their defence out of the game as best we can,” Hardwick said.
Come again?
The Richmond coach took only 12 seconds to raise the topic of Carlton’s defence in his weekly press conference.
“Defensively they’re very good behind the ball, they’ve got some really good movers behind the ball in (Kade) Simpson and (Sam) Docherty and they’re good players are playing really well in (Patrick) Cripps, (Marc) Murphy and (Bryce) Gibbs,” he said.
“They defend well ... they’re using a strength of theirs to then counter-attack as well and when they do get through from the back half they score heavily.”
Richmond could be destined for the top four, the improving 5-7 Blues have won their past two and a crowd of 80,000 could pack the MCG tomorrow.
But this isn’t just another Richmond-Carlton blockbuster. It is also the fast-forward Tigers against the go-slow Blues. Fire versus ice, if you will.
Rejuvenated Richmond thrives on a manic forward line, whipped into a frenzy by a mosquito fleet — Jason Castagna, Dan Butler, Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli.
The Tigers lead the competition in creating forward-half turnovers (29.9 per game) and the scores that result from those turnovers account for an average 41 per cent of their total score — the biggest percentage of any team.
Forcing rivals into mistakes is a crucial measuring stick for Hardwick’s side. When the Tigers have created 27 forward-half turnovers or fewer this season, they’ve lost. In the seven games they’ve forced more than 27 forward-half turnovers, they are undefeated.
The challenge for Richmond this week is that it is running into a side that takes less risks than a librarian.
The Blues are the definition of safety-first coming out of defence. They average more kicks in the defensive half than any side, handball the least behind centre and take the second-most marks and uncontested marks in the defensive half.
Incredibly, Carlton still turns the ball over 26.3 times a game — ranked 15th — yet it only concedes 29.8 points from those mistakes — ranked second in the AFL.
So as quick as a clanger is committed, Blues defenders snap back into position to stop the score. It’s like getting bitten, but not copping the venom.
Carlton doesn’t do what legendary soccer manager Jose Mourinho famously termed “parking the bus”.
It presses like everyone else, but it goes slower and safer than almost everyone else. Two of Carlton’s most important players in Sam Docherty and Kade Simpson set the tempo here.
Docherty’s influence hasn’t been lost on Hardwick and amid all the talk of Ed Curnow tagging Dustin Martin, will the Tigers coach spring a negating surprise?
“He sets up really well, doesn’t he? He’s sort of like a goalkeeper there, they go back to him a lot and they use his offensive prowess to get the ball moving,” Hardwick said.
“We’ll look a him ... make sure we negate his influence as best we can.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-v-carlton-a-battle-between-tigers-pressure-forwards-and-blues-icecool-defenders/news-story/1b08e79452b36427f1ebaf3b0fd743d2
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STFU
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Can Tigers end their last-quarter blues?
Jon Pierik
The Age
24 June 2017
In the mixed emotions that pour forth in the grizzled hour after a defeat, Damien Hardwick has claimed a lack of courage, a "poor brand of footy", the need to win an arm-wrestle and even heart-break through his team's four losses by nine points or less over the past six rounds.
It's been one drama after another in a sometimes harrowing two-month stretch for a club which would be at least equal first on the ladder had it been able to split those losses. That's right – equal first. Here's a recount of the events so far.
R7: Western Bulldogs 11.14 (80) def Richmond 11.9 (75)
Tigers had led by 32 points early in second term.
Hardwick post match: "We probably lacked a little bit of courage towards the end of the last quarter when the game probably tightened up. In fairness, the pressure around the ball was pretty high. I think the Bulldogs' pressure rating soared through the roof that last quarter and it's why they sit where they do. We just probably couldn't get the ball out of defensive 50 cleanly enough to get a nice efficient shot on goal at the other end."
R8: Fremantle 10.12 (72) to Richmond 10.10 (70)
Tigers led by five goals at three quarter-time.
Hardwick post match: "I thought our first three quarters were pretty poor. We didn't play anywhere near as well as we would have liked. We didn't defend particularly well and you look at the last 20 seconds and there are some things we can do better in that situation, too. But the damage was done, really, in the first three quarters, where we played a pretty poor brand of footy, to be honest."
R9: GWS 11.12 (78) to 10.15 (75)
Tigers led by 25 points at three quarter-time
Hardwick post match: "It's tough. It's heartbreaking, to be honest. I thought our players gave great intent, great effort. We just couldn't close out the game. To have 61 inside 50s, win contested ball, win forward-half turnovers, win the pressure ... just didn't get the result. If you had have looked at it on face value, with our KPI indicators, we probably should have won."
R13: Sydney 12.8 (80) to 10.11 (71)
Tigers led by six goals early in second term.
Hardwick post match: "I think that [narrow margins] is what our side has to get used to. We're very competitive. We'll keep the games close. We're not going to win games by 10 goals. We're not going to lose games, hopefully, by 10 goals either. It is always going to be an arm wrestle. We didn't win today but we will learn a bit out of it and we will go forward and we attack Carlton next Sunday with vigour."
Fast forward to Sunday, and there's little doubt the Tigers will "attack" the contest against the Blues. They have done that all season. But the burning question remains – what happens if it's close come the final term?
There's every chance this will be an arm-wrestle, for the Brendon Bolton-led Blues have been built from defence, and are a far better unit than the one which took to the field in the season opener when Dustin Martin was rampant and the Tigers prevailed by 43 points.
The Blues have mastered what commentator Matthew Lloyd refers to as "parking the bus" behind the ball. That's having a free man to handball or kick to behind the ball, particularly in defence, easing the pressure when the ball has been won under pressure. Lloyd says "they never seem panicked with handball or pressure", and the Tigers will need to find a way to stop the first uncontested mark or possession, for the Blues enjoy controlling the tempo from that point.
Tigers assistant coach Andrew McQualter said his men – that being small forwards Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler and Shai Bolton – would need to negate the rebound of Kade Simpson and Sam Docherty, the latter firmly in All-Australian calculations.
"They're smart defenders. If you run into a poor spot, they'll just get where the dangerous space is and be able to defend from there. It's helping their [Carlton's] defence a lot, but also offensively. As soon as you run to a poor spot, where you can't get the ball, these guys will look to drop off and be able to defend some more dangerous space," he said.
The Blues would also have taken note of the Tigers' scoring issues. In their five defeats, they have not posted more than 75 points. Only once, against West Coast at the MCG, have they won this this year with a score in the 70s – that being 76. Bolton's message will be to keep it tight.
The Tigers' dip in scoring is a worry, for they have dropped from averaging 102.8 points per game through the opening five rounds to 76.7 since – ranked 16th. They opened the season by splurging 132 points on the Blues. Last week that was cut to 71 by the Swans.
What has been of particular concern has been a lack of scoreboard impact in the final quarters. They managed 2.2 against the Dogs, just five points against the Giants and 1.4 against the Swans. It was only against the Dockers (5.5) that they enjoyed a run on.
In their wins over the past fortnight, the rebuilding Blues have held the potent Giants to 70 points and the Gold Coast Suns to 73. Little wonder the Tigers, ranked last in disposal efficiency, have worked diligently on their work inside 50 this week. Reclaiming the zest which led to high-volume scoring from turnovers – particularly the manic defensive pressure by their small forwards – is also a must.
Some would argue too much has been made of the Tigers' narrow defeats, amid claims from former coach Danny Frawley they are mentally fragile. They have won three games by 15 points or less. Did they handle the pressure on those days more because of clear coaching instructions or were the players already drilled in what to do?
Conversely, how much blame should the players or coaches take for the defeats? Surely, the leadership group was to blame for not having their teammates set up properly in the corridor for what proved to be a long Giants' kick in which led to Jeremy Cameron's match-winning goal inside the final minute? Should similar circumstances arise against the Blues, will the Tigers have learnt their lesson?
Even the greatest of teams can lose a string of tight games, with Hardwick pointing out through the week that the Brisbane Lions had four defeats by eight points or less between rounds 11 and 17 in 2003 – before going on to claim a third-straight flag. However, the credits in the Lions' bank at that stage were immense.
In the Tigers' case, a tumble from the top eight and another September vacation would almost certainly spark another round of rumblings.
Sunday's clash shapes as the most anticipated between the traditional rivals since the elimination final of 2013. On that Sunday afternoon before 94,690 fans, the Tigers led by 26 points at half-time. We know what happened from there. They would lose by 20.
Hardwick was typically upbeat at his weekly media conference this week, again declaring he was proud of his men.
"Out of 11 of the 12 games, we've been in them and we've won seven, lost five. I'm prepared to take that," he said.
But should there be more fourth-quarter woes, the chill in the air will surely return as it did on that September evening more than three years ago. That's something Hardwick would not be prepared to take.
WHERE HAS THE TIGERS' SCORING FURY GONE?
Rds 1-5 Rank Rds 6-13 Rank
Pts for: 102.8 5th 76.7 16th
Pts from Turnover Diff: +19.6 3rd -1.7 10th
Pts from Clearances Diff: +8.2 6th -0.8 9th
Marks Inside 50 Diff: +2.6 2nd +1.3 6th
Inside 50 Diff: +5.2 6th +4.7 6th
% Scores Times Inside 50: +9.4 2nd -5.2 16th
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-v-carlton-can-tigers-end-their-lastquarter-blues-20170623-gwx9mh.html
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Who edits these articles - like seriously.
This is the Age, they should get poo like this correct
R8: Fremantle 10.12 (72) to Richmond 10.10 (70)
Tigers led by five goals at three quarter-time.
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No one edits fairfax articles anymore they've all been fired.
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MCG website has increased the expected crowd to 67k.
http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/june/richmond-v-carlton-june-25
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lol
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NO LATE CHANGES
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Richmond: Shane Edwards, Jayden Short, Shai Bolton, Connor Menadue
Carlton: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Blaine Boekhorst, Jed Lamb, Nick Graham
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-25/final-teams-sunday-geelong-v-fremantle
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Stevic umpiring :thumbsdown
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C'mon Tiges! 4 qtr effort today.
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Just go for goal next time Cotch if you're gonna mis-kick short like that.
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No Hampson taps please Nanks. That was a perfect tap back into the central corridor for the Blues :-\.
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Protect the goalsquare for goodness sake :facepalm
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Dusty (free) hits up Jack 55m out. Goes short to Grigg 40m out. Misses.
Rich 1
Carl 6
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These unforced turnovers (Grigg this time) just kill us. Two goals to them from our schoolboy mistakes :banghead.
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Good forward pressure by Bolton & Rioli. Rioli misses. Another set shot missed :banghead.
2 - 12
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already turned it off, we will lose today and I just cbf
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Carlton played laid out. Houli backhander while shepherding.
Bachar's been reported.
We were away inside 50 too. Just dumb dumb footy so far.
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Benny Hill stuff from us going inside F50. Lucky to get a free to Georgie in the square. Finally on the board :gotigers.
Rich 8
Carl 12
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Can we fumble any more in a game?
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No talking!
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Dusty to Cotch inside 50 and Georgie marks 35m out. Plays on and nail it :gotigers.
Can't believe we're in front!
Rich 14
Carl 13
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Georgie on Jones and he's took quick on the lead. Passes to Caddy 40m out who stuffs his kick :facepalm.
Sums us up so far :banghead.
That turnover gifts Carlton their 3rd and the lead back :banghead
14 - 19
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Can we turn the simple into anything more difficult? Another stuffed up goal chance (point to Rioli)
15 - 19
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It was more dumb over-handball but that wasn't a throw. Other ump guessed and overruled ::).
Then Astbury clearly pushed into the back not called. Gift to Carlton.
15 - 25
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:sleep :sleep too many sleeping.
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How is that advantage? Rioli didn't know it was a free as he kicked it ::)
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:sleep :sleep too many sleeping.
No 2nd tall yet we're playing as if we have one.
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Coast to coast. Ellis goal.
Rich 21
Carl 25
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Quarter time
Richmond 3.3-21
Carlton 4.1-25
Goals: Castagna 2, Ellis.
Lucky to be this close with all the dumb mistakes we've made.
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Feel like throwing up.
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Fingered by the umps.
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Don't know about anyone else but when I see Dusty clear and with the ball running into 50 I want to see him kick it through the big sticks. When he tries to be unselfish it invariably ends up as a rebound to the opposition.
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4 of our 5 goals have come from D50 on the counter.
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13 scoring shots to 6 yet just two goals up. Our bloody set shot goalkicking :banghead.
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We've kicked 6 behinds from scores from clearances.
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Houli to Cotch in the pocket. Another miss :scream.
39 - 26
Inside 50s: 32 - 16
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Half-time
Richmond 3.3 5.10-40
Carlton 4.1 4.2-26
Goals: Castagna 2, Riewoldt, Ellis, Lambert.
70% of that quarter in our forward half yet we kick 2.7 for the qtr. A people wonder why we lose tight games :banghead.
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Honestly think we are simply p poor kicking for goal, seriously can't see where improvement can come from as the foot skills around goal from both a snap or set shot is nothing short of below VFL standard.
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Cotchin has 3 effective possessions in a half of footy. :clapping
Having the Captains game we've come to expect again :rollin
Edwards has three and he's supposed to be our elite player. :rollin
Poofter-Prestia has 5 disposals. :rollin
Meanwhile Docherty is allowed free reign. :banghead
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Honestly think we are simply p poor kicking for goal, seriously can't see where improvement can come from as the foot skills around goal from both a snap or set shot is nothing short of below VFL standard.
Make modern tactics and sports science chasing that 1% extra edge irrelevant when you can't do the fundamentals like put the Sherrin between the two big sticks :banghead.
We've had 12 marks inside F50 yet haven't put that huge advantage on the scoreboard..
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Martin, Cotchin, Edwards and Prestia not having an impact thus far so you would assume they will lift as will we in the second half :gotigers
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When the softest player is your toughest player on the day then your truly in trouble. :help
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Cotchin has 3 effective possessions in a half of footy. :clapping
Having the Captains game we've come to expect again :rollin
Reckon Cotch has been too unselfish today and given off possession when he didn't have to.
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Fumble fumble fumble :facepalm
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Back to 2016 handball handball handball :banghead
JUST GO AND KICK THE BLOODY THING!
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Jack must be getting ticked off with the smalls trying to collide with him on open leads.
Georgie marks and of course we miss another set shot ::).
2.7 from set shots today.
41 - 33
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Someone take Edwards out back and shoot him.
Ducking dud!
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Lambert miss.
2.8 now from set shots ::).
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Deja vu of deja vu of deja vu......etc....etc
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Jack marked that. Not paid.
Almost stuffed it up again. Bolton finally snaps a goal :gotigers
Rich 48
Carl 33
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Bolton isn't sticking to script :banghead
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Hey! Surely that is reviewed.
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Yep TM. Edwards is having a shocker.
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Butler drops a sitter :facepalm.
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Dusty to Cotch 50m out. Rushed (was missing anyway).
49 - 35
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Rioli has a dislocated finger.
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Another stuffed up goal chance.
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Lambert long and Dusty takes a strong mark between the posts. Over the Jack = goal :gotigers.
Rich 55
Carl 36
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And we keep them in it :banghead.
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.3 5.10 7.13-55
Carlton 4.1 4.2 6.6-42
Goals: Riewoldt 2, Castagna 2, Ellis, Lambert, Bolton.
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Its like our games are scripted and it cant be changed, same clangers, same easy shots at goal missed, same fumbles under pressure. At least we are consistent, Blues now know they are always in the game with us so just chip away and wait for us to make the error. Can some of the Tiger players please take some responsibility and ram home a few in the last, i know we have to lower our eyes inside 50 but if already in there and facing goal have a friggin shot.
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We dominated most of that qtr in general play yet again but we again fail to put it on the scoreboard. In fact, Carlton won the qtr by a point ::).
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Its like our games are scripted and it cant be changed, same clangers, same easy shots at goal missed, same fumbles under pressure. At least we are consistent, Blues now know they are always in the game with us so just chip away and wait for us to make the error. Can some of the Tiger players please take some responsibility and ram home a few in the last, i know we have to lower our eyes inside 50 but if already in there and facing goal have a friggin shot.
Exactly.
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Grigg completely misses the free ball.
Grimes couldn't rush it so kicks it OOTF.
McIntosh drops easy mark.
Lucky Gibbs misses.
55 - 43
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Thank gawd Dusty is playing. An eagle soaring amongst turkeys.
Butler with the set shot. Hooray we actually kicked one :gotigers.
Rich 61
Carl 44
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Shank kick by Cotch fortunately lands in Jack's waiting arms. Goal :gotigers.
That's better set shot goalkicking.
Rich 67
Carl 44
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That's blatantly deliberate. Shows what a stupid rule it is.
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Edwards hasn't hit a handball target all day. FMD how can you miss 6 handballs
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As Lozza was saying.
We keep them it with dumb footy.
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Message to Dusty....be selfish occasionally, for God's sake, had the opportunity to finish them off and goes for a lottery short pass
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Let off there. Gibbs overkicked it and we've rebounded coast to coast to Butler for a goal :gotigers.
12 point play.
Rich 74
Carl 51
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Another goal to them from us coughing up the ball (Caddy this time).
74 - 57
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We will lose this
Blues know they're in it, you can see it in the body language
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This is where the mental demons come in, do we save the game or keep attacking. I think we tighten up and play safe hence why we get overrun.
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Menadue has been good today with these runs. Finds Jack on the lead 45m out. Doesn't make the distance.
We get it back but from a tight angle Caddy misses.
75 - 58
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LOL. Ump pulls out hands in the back while taking a speckie. Technically there but there hasn't been one paid all year ::).
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We get it back and Jack is paid the mark by the boundary. Misses.
76 - 58
3:37 to go.
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We get it back via a free to Lloyd. Inside 50. Prestia gathers but bananas it OOTF when it was easier to kick to goal :huh.
77 - 58
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I don't think even we could lose it from here. 1:30 to go.
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Game saving mark by Astbury. Gets 50 after Levi drags him to the ground. He gets it to Dusty who goes long and Nanks gets the free. That's the sealer! :gotigers
Rich 83
Carl 58
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Yeah! We win by 26 pts :gotigers.
Not at all pretty and still the same dumb mistakes and crap goalkicking but we'll take it.
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Final Score
Richmond 3.3 5.10 7.13 11.18-84
Carlton 4.1 4.2 6.6 8.10-58
Goals: Riewoldt 3, Castagna 2, Butler 2, Ellis, Lambert, Bolton, Nankervis.
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We didn't play super well but we did enough against a pretty competitive team. I'm happy.
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18:11 and it's a very comfortable percentage boosting win. A very long way from being clinical in front of goal, really need to work hard to overcome the jitters.
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Credit where it's due. Good win in the end. I particularly liked Menadue's run at crucial times in the 2nd half.
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It's going to click soon and we will look a million bucks.
Maybe next week :pray
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Very average game to watch but happy to just get the 4 points.
Lloyd needs to go and Butler needs a spell imo.
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Age of lists not so different
Plenty is made of the youthfulness of Carlton's line-ups this year under Brendon Bolton, but perhaps not enough attention is on Richmond in the same area. The Blues were younger than Richmond on Sunday, but not by as much as many would think. They each fielded six players aged 21 years or younger and the Tigers had 12 between the 22-to-27 bracket to Carlton's 11. The difference is Richmond's quality through that mid-bracket, with the likes of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance, Brandon Ellis and David Astbury. The best Blues in that mix? Patrick Cripps, Sam Docherty, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow and Lachie Plowman. The youngest footballer out there was the Tigers' 18-year-old forward Shai Bolton, who looks a top prospect.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-25/five-talking-points-richmond-v-carlton
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Carlton has beaten Essendon, Collingwood, Sydney and GWS this year .
Happy to get the points .
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Who got the 3 votes today ??
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Who got the 3 votes today ??
Between Cripps, Dusty and Rance I would have thought.
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already turned it off, we will lose today and I just cbf
Bump. Didn't miss much but we won
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Bolton continues to impress.
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Bolton continues to impress.
Thought he was a bit headless,chook wise.
Got In the way of Jack twice which cost us goals.
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Bolton continues to impress.
Thought he was a bit headless,chook wise.
Got In the way of Jack twice which cost us goals.
Yep agree
thought he looked lost yesterday and way off the pace of the game.
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Bolton continues to impress.
Thought he was a bit headless,chook wise.
Got In the way of Jack twice which cost us goals.
Saw that and yeah it was frustrating but he wants to be involved and is fearless in the contest - great attributes to work with. Leading heirachy and patterns can be worked out over time. The boy is the youngest player in the AFL ATM so we need to cut him some slack. Shia plays footy like we all did as kids and that's why he will become a tiger favourite.
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Bolton continues to impress.
Thought he was a bit headless,chook wise.
Got In the way of Jack twice which cost us goals.
Yep agree
thought he looked lost yesterday and way off the pace of the game.
Look at his kick in the backline. Can't recall which quarter it was which was good under pressure where others were turning it over at will. He only got in Jack's way once and he was not the only player to do so. Furthermore he kicked a critical goal in the third quarter where others had missed gettable chances. He is in no way lost at this level.
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Thought Lambert played a good game. Also thought Short played a good game. I am not the biggest fan of Ellis but he deserves credit for the way he played against Carlton. Menadue played much better than the previous week. Rance, Astbury and Grimes all played well. I thought our tackling was very good. It is a real worry regarding our kicking for goal. Caddy seemed out of touch.
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Caddy has looked out of touch for a few weeks now. And that short "kick" in the first quarter....
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Should have won by 60 odd points but "we don't win games like that".
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Was good to win without Cotch and Dust dominating. Good contributions from lesser lights.
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Was good to win without Cotch and Dust dominating. Good contributions from lesser lights.
I thought Dusty was superb. Sliced through Carlton like a hot knife through butter.
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Was good to win without Cotch and Dust dominating. Good contributions from lesser lights.
I thought Dusty was superb. Sliced through Carlton like a hot knife through butter.
Dusty was awesome.
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Yeah he was pretty damn good wasn't he. Disregard that last comment.
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Bolton)
RICHMOND v CARLTON
10 Dustin Martin (Rich)
5 Matthew Kreuzer (Carl)
5 Kane Lambert (Rich)
4 Alex Rance (Rich)
3 Patrick Cripps (Carl)
3 Shaun Grigg (Rich)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-26/aflca-votes-round-14-superstars-surge-to-the-top
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5 votes for Lambert.... :huh
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Lambert was very good
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Lambert was very good
Yep.
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Not even close to being our second best player, let lone equal second BOG...
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Not even close to being our second best player, let lone equal second BOG...
I thought he was our 3rd or 4th best last Sunday....
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Lambert and Miles need to pair up.
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Not even close to being our second best player, let lone equal second BOG...
Easily in our best 3 on the weekend behind Rance and Dusty.
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Captain had a his typical captains game. :shh
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Not even close to being our second best player, let lone equal second BOG...
Easily in our best 3 on the weekend behind Rance and Dusty.
Yeah...nah....
Captain had a his typical captains game. :shh
Agree....tried his guts out..... :shh :shh
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Not even close to being our second best player, let lone equal second BOG...
Easily in our best 3 on the weekend behind Rance and Dusty.
Yeah...nah....
Captain had a his typical captains game. :shh
Agree....tried his guts out..... :shh :shh
Yeh agree thought our midfield did very well against Murphy, Cripps and Gibbs