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Title: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 20, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
Castagna out? Maybe Grigg out with a shoulder?

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 1885 on August 20, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
Sammy for Grigg  :gotigers
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: big tone on August 20, 2017, 09:17:44 PM
Yep another ordinary game from George. I'd definitely think about sending him back.

I still think we need to play another tall forward so I'd probably bring in Elton for George.

I'd also like to see McIntosh play off halfback. I think he is better when we give him a particular job on someone. And I like his size and strength in the backline.

Houli to a wing as he isn't getting dropped ever while Hardwick is coach.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 20, 2017, 09:20:47 PM
No changes.

After a 100 point victory you usually don't change a side unless there are injuries.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: The Machine on August 20, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
George would be my only change if any and i could see us playing Caddy and Townsend in the same forward set up to assist Jack come finals.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Yeahright on August 20, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
No changes.

After a 100 point victory you usually don't change a side unless there are injuries.

Even if someone has their third poor game in a row (Cas)?
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 20, 2017, 09:29:34 PM
No changes.

After a 100 point victory you usually don't change a side unless there are injuries.

Even if someone has their third poor game in a row (Cas)?
Well, maybe Bolton for Castagna. ;D
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Diocletian on August 20, 2017, 09:30:22 PM
Bolton Wanderer for Cantstandya
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 20, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
George was terrible again.

I'd bring in Bolton
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 21, 2017, 12:25:51 AM
Out: Castagna, Broad. Markov (Cotchin terrible again & on notice)

Ins: Lloyd, Short. Miles.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: georgies31 on August 21, 2017, 12:53:12 AM
We need Cotchin up and firing not missing come September like last 3 final campaigns.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Diocletian on August 21, 2017, 03:07:32 AM
(Cotchin terrible again & on notice)



Go watch the second quarter again when we started getting on top...was in no small measure due to him... :shh

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 21, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
(Cotchin terrible again & on notice)
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Chuck17 on August 21, 2017, 08:37:05 AM
We need Cotchin up and firing not missing come September like last 3 final campaigns.

Go watch the Blues EF again, he was one of our best
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 1885 on August 21, 2017, 09:26:49 AM
Chimp was not horribile 

People need to watch more close :bow

No changes.

After a 100 point victory you usually don't change a side unless there are injuries.

Pretty stiff to get 50 and 4 goals not get a gig in seniors.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: mat073 on August 21, 2017, 09:33:19 AM
Serious question- how strong is the VFL competition these days  ??

Seems like there are some pretty ordinary teams atm .

Didn't they get rolled by the WAFL this year  ??
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 1885 on August 21, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
Serious question- how strong is the VFL competition these days  ??

Seems like there are some pretty ordinary teams atm .

Didn't they get rolled by the WAFL this year  ??

Sandy are not mugs  :shh

Fairly impressive numbers by Miles and Samuel



Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
The Barometer - Round 23

Herald-Sun
21 August 2017


RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Are you serious? Jacob Townsend was a surprise selection against the Dockers and would ordinarily be first out, but six goals changes that. First-gamer Jack Graham laid 11 tackles and Oleg Markov was also good. The one player who could be on thin ice is Jason Castagna, who had just one kick against Fremantle and has been quiet for a few weeks. But his speed is important.

ON THE CUSP: Sam Lloyd picked a bad week to gather a mammoth 50 disposals and four goals in the VFL. Anthony Miles chimed in with 45 of his own in a big win against Sandringham.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: Are the planets aligning for the Tigers? One the same day they put Fremantle to the sword Ben Griffiths and Reece Conca made successful returns in the VFL, giving Damien Hardwick almost a full list to pick from going into finals — now guaranteed, which is an effort in itself. But the Tigers still need to win on Sunday to lock in the double chance and they won’t need reminding that last time they faced St Kilda was a debacle. Playing at the MCG should help.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-whos-hot-and-whos-hurt-after-round-22-2017/news-story/829a911ad2ba7d70acc55dc71bfbf67d
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 21, 2017, 02:31:43 PM
(Cotchin terrible again & on notice)



Go watch the second quarter again when we started getting on top...was in no small measure due to him... :shh
:lol
The second quarter was due to freo defensive structure going to crap and being totally non existent.

I'm a fan of Trent as an elite player that's why I won't accept substandard performances from him especially as captain.
As an elite player and a Brownlow medalist it's not acceptable to have these types of games and I don't care who it's against.

50% disposal efficiency - not good enough.
2 possessions first quarter - not good enough.
1 tackle in 4 quarters of footy - not good enough.
1 centre clearance - not good enough.

We can all bang on about soft hacks like Houli, B Ellis and helicopter man but I don't expect much from them and these blokes aren't going to ever win a final for the team and you know what your getting from them and I'll never expect more (but extremely surprised if they do).
But from an elite performer I expect much much better than what he's dishing out the last two weeks coming into a finals series where he has failed more time than he has reached the proper standard.
Cotchin isn't a young player trying to make his way. He's a Brownlow medalist! An elite player in the AFL and needs to be judged accordingly.
 
Think about it and be honest, if Grigg had the same numbers as Cotchin would you be screaming for him to be dropped?

I judge our captain with the standard he has set himself by his elite performances in his career and by what feats he has achieved on the footy field and that's why I expect more from him and won't accept substandard below par performances. That's why he should be judged harsher than the lesser players because he is better. 
Facts are we are going to need him at his best come finals and hopefully we don't see a repeat of EF 2014/2015. These types of performances might be acceptable to you but not to me especially when your a Brownlow medalist, an elite midfielder of the afl, a club captain and haven't yet won a final.

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Knighter on August 21, 2017, 02:44:05 PM
Chimp better get his head around the fact that some thug is going to sit on him and belt him all arvo come finals time, given his form in the North elimination final
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Lozza on August 21, 2017, 03:07:37 PM
Just have a gut feel that a Tiger will get reported this week and it could just be Cotch, looked very frustrated against Freo.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: georgies31 on August 21, 2017, 03:59:32 PM
Cotch needs to have more impact needs to learn shake a tag to.BNeeds to step it up.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: eliminator on August 21, 2017, 03:59:41 PM
Given the importance of the game against St. Kilda resting players is not an option. Nor should underdone players such as Hampson, Conca and Griffiths be rushed into the team. Miles and if fit Caddy should be considered but at whose expense is the critical question.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: tony_montana on August 21, 2017, 04:09:24 PM
Agree, there is no way id bring in Conca, Griff or Hampson.

We need a match hardened side in this week. I'd only consider bringing in Miles but dont know for who. I wouldnt drop castagna, Markov, Graham or any other kid. Grigg was back to 1st half of the season form which was very respectable so wouldnt drop him either. and we know houli doesnt get dropped for poo performances let alone when he has had a reasonable game, so hes not going anywhere.

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 21, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
I'd be tempted to bring Conca in for someone this week. If he found his early season form he'd be worth it imo.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 21, 2017, 04:33:34 PM
I'd be tempted to bring Conca in for someone this week. If he found his early season form he'd be worth it imo.
No thanks. Miles should play and deserves a spot
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 21, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
I'd be tempted to bring Conca in for someone this week. If he found his early season form he'd be worth it imo.
What?
The guy has had a long lay off and has played one game at VFL level. He was poor too with many turnovers. Needs to show a hell of a lot more if he is to force his way into the side....
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 21, 2017, 04:56:28 PM
I'd be tempted to bring Conca in for someone this week. If he found his early season form he'd be worth it imo.
What?
The guy has had a long lay off and has played one game at VFL level. He was poor too with many turnovers. Needs to show a hell of a lot more if he is to force his way into the side....
If its not this week then he doesn't play finals. That's why I'm tempted.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Diocletian on August 21, 2017, 05:16:47 PM
Haha what the hell sort of logic is that?

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Yeahright on August 21, 2017, 07:49:42 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 21, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
Conca should only be considered as back up for our back ups.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: mat073 on August 21, 2017, 09:21:23 PM
There's no way Conca will be considered. 

He was holding his spot early in the year without dominating but the bloke has missed too much footy .

Hope he has a good pre season and can get a decent crack at it .



Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 22, 2017, 06:23:29 AM
Conca should only be considered as back up for our back ups.

lol true

Did you see him on Saturday? Gee wiz the bloke proved why he shouldn't even be on any list let alone ours

Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: tony_montana on August 22, 2017, 08:55:02 AM
I agree with the Conca sentiment - unlucky for him but there is no way he should even be in consideration for finals(way underdone), so too Hammer and Griff for that matter, but I have this sick feeling that Hammer at the very least will be played maybe even this week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 22, 2017, 10:28:22 AM
I agree with the Conca sentiment - unlucky for him but there is no way he should even be in consideration for finals(way underdone), so too Hammer and Griff for that matter, but I have this sick feeling that Hammer at the very least will be played maybe even this week.

I get that feeling too
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2017, 06:14:39 PM
In the Mix - Round 23

Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
22 August 2017


RICHMOND

Forward Sam Lloyd, who has played eight games this season, racked up a massive 50 possessions and booted four goals in the VFL, but there are no obvious candidates to make way after a 104-point thumping of Fremantle on Sunday.

Midfielder Anthony Miles also racked up 45 possessions in the VFL win over Sandringham to push his case.

The other conundrum at selection will be with ruckman Shaun Hampson, who had 21 hit-outs to go with his two goals in his second game back from a long-term back injury, opening the possibility of a two-ruck structure at AFL level.

Tall forward Ben Griffiths and defender Reece Conca will likely require more time at VFL level after returning from injury in the state league.

Josh Caddy will need one more week on the sidelines to recover from a hamstring injury.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-22/in-the-mix-whos-pushing-for-selection-in-round-23
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2017, 06:16:01 PM
Selection dilemmas for Tigers

richmondfc.com.au
22 August 2017


The Richmond selectors will be burning the midnight oil this week, as they try to figure out the Tigers’ best line-up to tackle the business end of season 2017.

There are several players in Richmond’s VFL team knocking strongly on the door for senior selection – led by Sam Lloyd and Anthony Miles.

Lloyd had nearly 50 disposals and kicked four goals in the 70-point win by the Tiger ‘twos’ against Sandringham last Sunday, while Miles had a ‘lazy’ 45.

Experienced trio Ben Griffiths, Reece Conca and Steven Morris all returned to the playing field with the VFL side, following their respective stints on the sidelines through injury, while ruckman Shaun Hampson had his second game back after recovering from a severe back complaint.

Throw in talented young players such as Jayden Short, Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue, Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Ivan Soldo, plus the imminent return from a minor hamstring injury of key mature-age midfielder Josh Caddy and you can understand why the Richmond selection meetings are likely to drag on for quite some time in the foreseeable future.

“Our VFL boys are playing some great footy, so we’ve got some selection decisions to make going forward,” said Tigers coach Damien Hardwick.

“Shaun (Hampson) was very good at VFL level, (Ivan) Soldo’s a young, learning type of ruckman, Ben Griffiths got through another game.

“Do we go with the one ruck? Do we need two?

“It might be dependent on the opposition.

“But they’re good problems to have at the moment.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/selection-dilemmas-for-tigers
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 22, 2017, 10:07:56 PM
I'd take miles ahead of Lloyd no problems
The non selection of miles and caddy going down were costly against geelong.
Lloyd has had some good games but im not convinced we need him in this forward line
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: big tone on August 23, 2017, 05:53:59 PM
I'd like to see us start like this


Vlastuin  Rance  Grimes
McIntosh  Astbury  Markov
Short  Prestia  Lambert
Rioli  Townsend  Miles
Edwards  Jack  Butler

Nank  Cotchin  Dusty

Graham Grigg Houli BEllis

Outs- George  Broad
Ins- Short  Miles


Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: georgies31 on August 23, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
No way Lloyd in nothing more then vfl player doesn't step up in afl had enough chances this year.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 23, 2017, 07:02:01 PM
Broad stays.
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Diocletian on August 23, 2017, 07:25:26 PM
Agree - upgrade on Batchelor.....:clapping
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 23, 2017, 07:37:05 PM
Agree - upgrade on Batchelor.....:clapping
:lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 23, 2017, 08:09:05 PM
Agree - upgrade on Batchelor.....:clapping

Taught him everything he knows  :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 23, 2017, 08:16:20 PM
Agree - upgrade on Batchelor.....:clapping

Taught him everything he knows  :clapping

Selfless which is what landed him OER player of the year...
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: pmac21 on August 23, 2017, 08:43:39 PM
No change. 
Title: Re: Changes for the Stk game?
Post by: pmac21 on August 23, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
Play Townsend on Dylan Roberton as a defensive forward. 
The mids were embarrassed last time we met and need to dominate possession.
Title: Richmond's Josh Caddy likely to miss clash with St Kilda Saints (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2017, 12:16:58 AM
Richmond's Josh Caddy likely to miss clash with St Kilda Saints

Michael Gleeson
The Age
24 August 2017


The pre-finals bye is likely to be too tantalising for Richmond to push to have Josh Caddy return for the Tigers' critical final-round clash with St Kilda.

Richmond had hoped that the powerful midfielder would be back for the final game after he picked up a minor hamstring strain in the first term of the loss to Geelong at Simonds Stadium on August 12 but that seems less likely now.

A decision is till yet to be made on Caddy, but indications were it was unlikely he would come into the team, especially with the extra week because of the bye after the match.

While Richmond is safely in the eight, they would drop out of the top four if they lost to the Saints and Port Adelaide beat struggling Gold Coast. If the Tigers were to win, their exact position in the top four would also depend on the outcome of the Geelong-Greater Western Sydney game and could come down to percentage.

Sam Lloyd had an astonishing 50 touches in the VFL but even that is unlikely to press his case for a recall to the senior team given the Tigers' small forwards have done nothing to deserve to be left out, with the team coming off a 104-point belting of Fremantle.

Ruckman Shaun Hampson is only two games back from long-term injury and is building towards being available in the finals but he needs more game time to be able to be picked, as does small defender Reece Conca .

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick had been confident or at least hopeful after the Geelong loss that Caddy would be fit for the Saints, who defeated Richmond the first time they met this year.

"We think it's on the minor end. … we just hope he gets back within a couple of weeks," Hardwick said at the time.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/richmonds-josh-caddy-likely-to-miss-clash-with-st-kilda-saints-20170823-gy2q6i.html