One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on September 09, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
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Reckon we would blow West Coast off the park with our speed .
GWS would turn to water if we bring the same pressure as last night .
Port do have some weapons which could hurt us - they would be my least desired opponents.
Edit:
Second Preliminary Final
Richmond vs Greater Western Sydney
Saturday, 23rd September 2017
Melbourne Cricket Ground @ 4:45pm
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-16/who-plays-who-in-the-preliminary-finals
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I'd like nothing better than to rub Port's nose in it.
Can't see West Coast making it through to us. Too much travel ahead of them.
GWS most likely, but I'd fancy our chances there. They love playing half fit players on reputation, although they do have some bona fide match winners, which is what you want in finals.
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Out of GWS and the Eagles now.
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We couldn't have been given a better run to a GF. Still have to win but I hope we don't stuff it up from here.
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we bring the same intent, we win.
you have to remember if gws win the confidence will be higher when they face up.
Im hoping eagles win personally
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I actually thought the Eagles would be the better team to play before they beat Port, but only because they have so much travel in the two weeks before the prelim.
But not so sure now. I reckon the Eagles are much more of a 'team' than GWS, and that is really important in the finals. Their win over Port was as gutsy as it gets.
I think it is largely immaterial anyway. We have no say in it, and I do not like to barrack for results of other games too much because it always comes back and bites me.
And we will beat whoever we play.
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How good is this - I'm flying
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Most likely in the Prelim, probably Westcoast but that's just on how bad GWS were against he crows.
Don't matter much as we can beat anyone and Friday nite proved that.
So bring on westcoast or gws :thumbsup we're gonna reign down hell on them :gotigers
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Either way the crowd will be on our side.
I'm hoping it's GWS. There will be 94,000 supporting Richmond and 1,000 supporting GWS.
:cheers
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Either way the crowd will be on our side.
I'm hoping it's GWS. There will be 94,000 supporting Richmond and 1,000 supporting GWS.
:cheers
I guess we have no say in it but id like the GWS option for the same reason. But then i think wed probably have way better chance at a Grand Final if we played West Coast.
What will be will be i guess!!!
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West Coast are starting to have that Footscray "destiny" feel about them.... :shh
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There will be 94,000 supporting Richmond and 1,000 supporting GWS.
But the AFL doesn't have 1000 employees.
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[smasha]Gilligan has tipped GWS for the flag all year and desperately wants them to win....no doubt the umpires will be made aware of this... :shh [/smasha]
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Both a quality teams on there day gws and eagles.Eagles when on song can beat anyone dont discount them and not bad at mcg to even against us they matchup ok.
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Not going to be easy, but I'm confidant of at least making it for some reason
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What ever happens next week the Preliminary final is ours to lose .
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What ever happens next week the Preliminary final is ours to lose .
There no doubt about it.We play 4 qtrs of solid football and bring our best game we will be hard to beat ,but any intensity drop brings us to the pack :gotigers.I said it before this tiger team looks a lot different to ones in the past.
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Loving the belief - something Ive never experienced as a tigers man, ever.
Personally, for whatever reason Id rather GWS than the Weagles. The fairy tale stuff adds a bit to them, and their talls are an intimidating trio.
Can anyone confirm if Nik Nat would be some potential should they win?
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Cameron gone for the season.
Doubts on Mumford too.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-11/gun-giant-jeremy-cameron-out-for-season-doubts-on-mumford
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Either opponent will be dangerous....WC will have no pressure on them & nothing to lose and are playing their best footy for the year...GWS are the most purely talented list since the salary cap was introduced...don't forget also that when we knocked them off they had half the list injured , were in a form slump, lost Shiel during the match and it was wet which evened up the skill level....also think losing Cameron might be a good thing for them as it will force them not to go in as top-heavy as they normally do....and of course we still don't know if having two byes in three weeks is beneficial or detrimental....though last year suggests the latter.....speaking of which.....anyone hear if we'll be playing a scratch match next weekend to stay sharp? Heard Adelaide are....
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What worries me the most is the loss of momentum.
I wondee if WCE are tempted to play nic nat against us - I dont think he has played a wafl match .
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also think losing Cameron might be a good thing for them as it will force them not to go in as top-heavy as they normally do
losing cameron is a bad thing for them
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What worries me the most is the loss of momentum.
I wondee if WCE are tempted to play nic nat against us - I dont think he has played a wafl match .
no chance. A bit like us if it aint broke etc etc
also think losing Cameron might be a good thing for them as it will force them not to go in as top-heavy as they normally do
losing cameron is a bad thing for them
i cant make my mind up on this. On the surface it does but then they might load up on smalls as dio suggests
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He's a gun but he's also part of their main weaknesses....a top heavy structure and lack of forward defensive pressure..
..Mumford would arguably be a bigger loss....
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Mumford gone for the season.
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2017-09-11/mumford-injury-update
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Now that is a big loss....things have certainly been falling into place for West Coast these last few weeks... :shh
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Now that is a big loss....things have certainly been falling into place for West Coast these last few weeks... :shh
I pick West Coast over Sydney any day of the week.
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Start time for MCG prelim final dependent on Richmond opponent.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/906136053676859392
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Do we actually have any idea what time yet??
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I'd rather play WC they are poo on the G
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Do we actually have any idea what time yet??
Not yet but don't be surprised if it's a Saturday twilight game (say a 4pm start). The AFL usually wants to give both potential Grand Finalists at least a full 7 days from the Prelims to prepare. So they try to avoid having a Saturday night prelim now days. Adelaide's home prelim will be on the Friday night.
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From Barrett's "Sliding Doors" column:
RICHMOND
IF ... it's the Giants next week ...
THEN ... it'll be the cause of a restless build-up. If it's the Eagles, then it will be a week of nice sleep. Unless Nic Nat plays.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-15/sliding-doors-finals-week-two
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From Barrett's "Sliding Doors" column:
RICHMOND
IF ... it's the Giants next week ...
THEN ... it'll be the cause of a restless build-up. If it's the Eagles, then it will be a week of nice sleep. Unless Nic Nat plays.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-15/sliding-doors-finals-week-two
but the flog also says
If there was one contribution the Roos made to the AFL competition this season ... then it was financially haemorrhaging the Tigers in the near future during their unsuccessful, obsessive approach of Dusty.
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From Barrett's "Sliding Doors" column:
RICHMOND
IF ... it's the Giants next week ...
THEN ... it'll be the cause of a restless build-up. If it's the Eagles, then it will be a week of nice sleep. Unless Nic Nat plays.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-15/sliding-doors-finals-week-two
but the flog also says
If there was one contribution the Roos made to the AFL competition this season ... then it was financially haemorrhaging the Tigers in the near future during their unsuccessful, obsessive approach of Dusty.
Haters gotta hate and Barrett is a known Richmond hater. It must be eating Barrett alive inside seeing the polar opposite paths we and his bottom 2 Roos have taken over the past 12 months. North did what we use to do and topped up with the likes of Dal Santo, Higgins & Waite when they were nowhere near premiership material. Now they are paying big time for going the failed "quick fix". Also, the irony is lost on Barrett, given North will have to fork out a fortune to keep Ben Brown this time next year now that they are having to go into full rebuild mode with no finals prospects on the horizon in the short-mid term future.
ps. I'd hardly bother bringing up that we are likely to pack out the 'G against an interstate side next weekend (even if it's GWS), while North in the same scenario would be lucky to get 20k to rock up :whistle.
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From Barrett's "Sliding Doors" column:
RICHMOND
IF ... it's the Giants next week ...
THEN ... it'll be the cause of a restless build-up. If it's the Eagles, then it will be a week of nice sleep. Unless Nic Nat plays.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-15/sliding-doors-finals-week-two
but the flog also says
If there was one contribution the Roos made to the AFL competition this season ... then it was financially haemorrhaging the Tigers in the near future during their unsuccessful, obsessive approach of Dusty.
I'd like to know if there's ever been a side that wasn't a little nervous going into a prelim?
What a flog.
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From Barrett's "Sliding Doors" column:
RICHMOND
IF ... it's the Giants next week ...
THEN ... it'll be the cause of a restless build-up. If it's the Eagles, then it will be a week of nice sleep. Unless Nic Nat plays.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-15/sliding-doors-finals-week-two
but the flog also says
If there was one contribution the Roos made to the AFL competition this season ... then it was financially haemorrhaging the Tigers in the near future during their unsuccessful, obsessive approach of Dusty.
I'd like to know if there's ever been a side that wasn't a little nervous going into a prelim?
What a flog.
Yep. IIRC, didn't the dominant 2007 Geelong side only just get over the line in the Prelim against the Pies before smashing Port by 20 goals in the GF? Then there was the Hawks in 2014 on the way to back-to-back who just outlasted Port by 3 pts in their Prelim. Prelims are hard to win. One of the reasons we need to be 'on' again from the start and play out 4 quarters no matter who we end up playing.
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The very early forecast for Saturday week is a warm 25 degrees with a late change.
Source: Ch 7 news.
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Richmond AFL Finals: Preliminary final opponent GWS Giants or West Coast, who would fans prefer?
Al Paton,
Herald Sun
16 September 2017
SOME Victorian footy fans might find it hard to get too excited about tonight’s semi-final between GWS Giants and West Coast. Not Richmond fans.
They will be glued to the action knowing the winning team will face the Tigers next week for a spot in the Grand Final.
Who should they be barracking for?
Richmond has beaten both teams at the MCG this year and will start favourite against whoever wins tonight; TAB has Richmond $1.50 to make the Grand Final, the Giants at $3.25 and West Coast $8.
But this is Richmond we’re talking about, and both opponents could present potential pitfalls for the Tiger juggernaut.
Giants star Toby Greene has a difference of opinion with David Astbury. Picture: Michael Klein
THE CASE FOR GWS
Richmond has played the Giants twice this year for a 1-1 record.
That should have been 2-0, with Jeremy Cameron stealing victory in the final minute at Spotless Stadium in Round 9 after a Shai Bolton goal was overturned.
In Round 17 GWS was all over the Tigers early and led 3.4 to 0.2 at quarter-time. But Dustin Martin lifted in the second term to lead a Richmond fightback. By halftime the Tigers were seven points in front, they steamed away in the third term then held on as the heavens opened.
Dusty finished with 31 disposals, Trent Cotchin had 27 and Nick Vlastuin took 11 marks.
Callan Ward (37 disposals) and Zac Williams (28) were best for the Giants.
That was their only visit to the MCG this season. In their short history the Giants have played at the ’G 11 times for just one win, against Melbourne in 2014. Their overall record against Richmond is 2-6, but they have two of the past three clashes between the two teams.
Injuries have hit GWS at the wrong time with Cameron and Shane Mumford out for the year, allowing Toby Nankervis to breathe a big sigh of relief.
Toby Greene lost his cool, and his focus, against the Tigers last time and Richmond fans wouldn’t be too upset if the Eagles get under his skin tonight.
The extra spice in this one would be a first match-up against Brett Deledio, who left Richmond to win a premiership.
Daniel Rioli has the ball on a string against the Eagles. Picture: George Salpigtidis
THE CASE FOR WEST COAST
It will be a remarkable story if the Eagles make it to a prelim after scraping into the eight by 0.2 per cent in the last game of the home-and-away season.
Will playing what could he three successive heart-stoppers take their toll?
The Tigers won the only meeting between these teams at the MCG in Round 3, again coming from behind after a slow start.
Dustin Martin and Andrew Gaff each had 33 touches that day and Daniel Rioli produced some moments of magic including a banana goal that is one of three finalists for goal of the year.
The Eagles’ struggles at the MCG are well documented. They are 0-2 there this year and have won four times from 14 attempts since 2012, although one of those wins was against the Tigers in 2015.
Nic Naitanui dominated against Ivan Maric that night. Could Adam Simpson roll the dice on his fitness in the hope of repeating the dose against Nankervis?
Richmond would be a hot favourite against the Eagles, who are coming from eighth and would have played three tough matches in a row, including an extra 10 minutes of extra-time against Port Adelaide.
The Tigers should also have an edge against GWS, with the MCG providing a huge advantage in a genuine home game.
Players should be fresh after a week off, but no one really knows what the effect of playing one match in 26 days will be. Last year both qualifying final winners were knocked out in the prelim after the “double bye”.
It’s also noteworthy that the latter stages of Richmond’s matches against GWS and West Coast this year were both played in heavy rain, with the Tigers overpowering both opponents late. Heavy conditions didn’t hurt against the Cats last week, either.
Tiger fans could do worse than save their energy to barrack for a downpour about 5pm next Saturday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/would-richmond-rather-play-gws-giants-or-west-coast-in-the-preliminary-final/news-story/d3067e1d8f31df8d6e8c03474790b271
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Richmond and Geelong carry Victoria’s hopes into finals
STEPHEN DRILL,
Sunday Herald Sun
17 September 2017
RICHMOND and Geelong are carrying the hopes of Victoria in this year’s finals series, as fans prepare to scramble for preliminary final tickets tomorrow morning.
The Tigers and the Cats are the only remaining home-state teams in the finals, and face do-or-die finals this weekend.
Richmond must overcome either Greater Western Sydney or West Coast on Saturday night and Geelong makes the tough road trip to take on Adelaide on Friday night.
If both clubs win their preliminary finals it would be the first all-Victorian grand final since Geelong beat Collingwood in 2011.
Preliminary final tickets for all clubs will be on sale from 9am for members, with the public getting a chance from 2pm tomorrow.
AFL spokesman Patrick Keane said Geelong’s ticket allocation would be driven by demand for the Adelaide match.
He said the vast majority of tickets to the Richmond preliminary final would be allocated to Tigers fans for its MCG clash.
Five-time Richmond premiership player Francis Bourke said he was enjoying the Tigers’ success this season.
“I’m just so delighted by the way the boys have played and the way the club has conducted itself,” he said.
He urged the team to be patient as it tries to break its 37-year premiership drought.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/richmond-and-geelong-carry-victorias-hopes-into-finals/news-story/7b6e374ffba4d57cd3369e00522979c7
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Stuff these pretender's. So much time and space for them tonight. Every RFC must get tickets to this game and create the fiercest cauldron ever seen Saturday night
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Stuff these pretender's. So much time and space for them tonight. Every RFC must get tickets to this game and create the fiercest cauldron ever seen Saturday night
Yesssssssssssss lets do it big men :clapping
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Stuff these pretender's. So much time and space for them tonight. Every RFC must get tickets to this game and create the fiercest cauldron ever seen Saturday night
this.
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Stuff these pretender's. So much time and space for them tonight. Every RFC must get tickets to this game and create the fiercest cauldron ever seen Saturday night
Yesssssssssssss lets do it big men :clapping
Hell YEAH :thumbsup
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GWS it is.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :snidegrin
Stuff these pretender's. So much time and space for them tonight. Every RFC must get tickets to this game and create the fiercest cauldron ever seen Saturday night
Yesssssssssssss lets do it big men :clapping
Yep. We need to bring that defensive pressure and ferocious tackling from last Friday night again next week.
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It is going to be weird as poo for me seeing Deledio run out against us in that ugly orange guernsey. Although he might get dropped as he was quiet again
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Playing GWS in "The Traitor's" 250th match.
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Pictorial representation of the crowd next week.
Richmond:
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
GWS:
:surrender
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Week 3 Toyota AFL Finals Series
Friday, September 22
First preliminary final
Adelaide v Geelong at Adelaide Oval, 7.20pm ACST
Saturday, September 23
Second preliminary final
Richmond v Greater Western Sydney at the MCG, 4.45pm AEST
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-16/who-plays-who-in-the-preliminary-finals
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The crowd needs to be so loud and parochial to the extent that they'll be shell shocked. I couldn't care less what Deledio has been to Richmond in the past, this is war, we must give it to him at every opportunity! Stuff him
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So much for the bottom four teams of the final 8 having more of a chance with the bye after round 23 :lol
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Need to bring it all to the G next Saturday, GWS are a talented side but nothing they experienced tonight will be anything like the cauldron they will be dropped into next week. Am sure the coaches will have us ready and raring to go and given GWS's demolition of West Coast our players certainly wont be expecting an easy game so may the best team win. :gotigers
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So much for the bottom four teams of the final 8 having more of a chance with the bye after round 23 :lol
3 out of the top 4 made the PF's last year.....it's next week's results that opponents of the pre-finals bye are concerned about as last year both qualifying final winners lost..... :shh
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Pictorial representation of the crowd next week.
Richmond:
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
:invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion :invasion
GWS:
:surrender
Might want to rethink that post - GWS supporter only one with a flag.....
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depends how you see it.
wave the white flag.
"To offer a sign of surrender or defeat; to yield or give in"
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Playing GWS in "The Traitor's" 250th match.
We encouraged him to leave....hardly a "traitor".....which is a stupid & childish concept in professional sport anyway...
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West Coast let GWS get too much easy ball in the middle. If we bring our game that got us here then hopefully they won't be able to get their game going. But we really should have beaten them twice this year so hopefully we already know what to do.
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We don't play on the weekend yet still dominate the front page :gotigers.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ2T3fWUIAEeqOR.jpg)
Source: Herald-Sun website.
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Richmond v Greater Western Sydney: preliminary final preview
Daniel Cherny
The Age
17 September 2017
Whatever happens in this match it will be a breakthrough of sorts. Richmond – after more than three decades in the wilderness – are on the verge of returning to the grand final for the first time since 1982.
That they have even made it this far is a huge achievement for a club that until last weekend hadn't won a final in 16 years. You'd need to be trying hard to have ignored the freight train of momentum and excitement surrounding the Tigers, especially after they crushed Geelong in the qualifying final.
This is a team with many no-frills players, but Richmond have developed into a formidable side built around several stars of the competition. It is a stunning turnaround given only 12 months ago the club looked to be in the midst of a crisis, with assistant coaches heading out the door, veteran Brett Deledio off to the Giants, and a board challenge putting pressure on president Peggy O'Neal.
On the other side of the coin are the Giants, in just their sixth season in the AFL, and arguably burdened by immense external expectation, but despite an at-times torrid campaign in which they have dealt with a crippling injury list and somewhat patchy form, are also just two wins away from a premiership.
They were written off in some circles following the qualifying final loss to Adelaide, especially given the injuries to Jeremy Cameron and Shane Mumford, but having eliminated West Coast on Saturday night they remain in the flag hunt.
HISTORY LESSON
Richmond really should have beaten the Giants twice already this year, but a final-quarter capitulation at Spotless Stadium in round nine, a game in which the Tigers led by more than five goals deep in the third quarter, cost them.
Richmond thought they had iced the game when debutant Shai Bolton goaled 30 minutes into the last term, but that major was overturned on review, and the Giants whisked the ball down the other end, with Cameron kicking the winner.
Second time around though, the Tigers showed their top-four bona fides by holding GWS goalless for the best part of two quarters on the way to a 19-point win in the MCG wet in round 18. As usual, Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin led the way for the Tigers, racking up 58 disposals between them.
X-FACTOR
Not much thought had been given to Jacob Townsend until last month. He had been let go by the Giants and was no more than a fringe-dweller for the Tigers, but has been a revelation since earning a late-season senior recall, kicking 13 goals in three games, as well as nullifying the drive of Geelong defender Lachie Henderson in the qualifying final. He also claimed the Liston Trophy as the VFL's best-and-fairest player, and remarkably has the chance to play in a grand final, and prevent his former club from doing so. Based on Saturday night's performance, Steve Johnson's X-factor status is alive and kicking at the Giants, with a brilliant six-goal haul against West Coast.
TACTICS
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has employed a considerably more direct style of play this year, with the Tigers aiming to get the ball into their 50 fast and back the intensity of their small forwards to ensure the ball doesn't get out.
What shouldn't be ignored however is quite how resilient their defence has been, with Alex Rance, David Astbury, Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin all having excellent seasons. The Giants have generally controlled possession, winning the ball from the contest and using it better than their opposition.
PREDICTION
The Tigers look close to irrepressible. In Martin, Cotchin, Rance and Jack Riewoldt, they have leaders who appear capable of standing up when needed, and the win over the Cats will have eased nerves, and exorcised some September demons.
Still, this is uncharted territory for them. As shown by their response to the debate about a possible grand final jumper clash with Adelaide, Richmond are wary of getting ahead of themselves, even if that cannot be said of all of their supporters. The question of whether two weeks off in the past month will have a detrimental impact is also legitimate given last year's qualifying final winners, Geelong and GWS, were preliminary final losers in what was the first season of the post round-23 bye.
Things have not been plain sailing for GWS this year, but even when somewhat depleted they have quality players. The pain of last year's preliminary final loss to the Western Bulldogs should also act as a spur. Although a young club, the Giants know what finals heartbreak feels like. That won't be enough to stop the men from Punt Road though, who look destined for greatness.
Richmond by 27 points
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-v-greater-western-sydney-preliminary-final-preview-20170916-gyiujq.html
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Tickets will go on sale via Ticketek at the following times...
Competing Club Members*
Monday September 18, 9am-1pm
General Public
Monday September 18, 2pm
AFL Members
Tuesday September 19, 9am
*'Buy 2018 and get 2017 free' members from 11am-1pm
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/finals
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The crowd needs to be so loud and parochial to the extent that they'll be shell shocked. I couldn't care less what Deledio has been to Richmond in the past, this is war, we must give it to him at every opportunity! Stuff him
Stuffen sook will turn up his toes anyway. Least of our worries
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Anyone lining up tomorrow morning ? :jump
Or is everyone doing it online/phone ? :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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WC looked pretty insipid, must of been pretty tired after that game with Port, which was a good hard tussle. I don't think GWS looked that good to be honest, WC hardly competed, they barely chased, put no pressure on, and generally adopted witches hat positions for most of that game. Hopefully we can shell shock this afl confection when they turn up and we hit them with the blitzkrieg
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Who else wants to see lids cop it in the arse
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Anyone lining up tomorrow morning ? :jump
Or is everyone doing it online/phone ? :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
I personally like the line up option, my only option is on line :scream
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You can line up???
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WC looked pretty insipid, must of been pretty tired after that game with Port, which was a good hard tussle. I don't think GWS looked that good to be honest, WC hardly competed, they barely chased, put no pressure on, and generally adopted witches hat positions for most of that game. Hopefully we can shell shock this afl confection when they turn up and we hit them with the blitzkrieg
WC were totally insipid. Living in WA I enjoyed that aspect of the game.
GWS are very difficult to figure out. List chock full of talent that doesn't play as a team yet. Has happened with just about every list of any new team in my time watching the AFL. Port the only exception.
I have a theory that these new clubs need to go through at least half a generation of players before they actually develop the required cohesion amongst their playing group to be fully effective on the field.
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Who else wants to see lids cop it in the arse
I want their entire team bent over. Bloody concocted afl corporate disgrace.
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You can line up???
Yes ;D
At the limited Ticketek locations ::)
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Brownless on the Sunday Footy Show said we're overrated and he reckons GWS will beat us. He's not convinced about Richmond because there were "only" a couple of goals in it at 3/4 time against his Cats.
https://twitter.com/SunFootyShow/status/909224409847676928
Missed the last quarter did we, Billy? :facepalm :wallywink
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Play 4 qtrs of football and pressure and tackling and work hard and convert we have no issue not to win.Gws a talented no doubt but alot of media talking up there win against the eagles who didnt turn-up and played there final the week before and put no pressure at all and looked cooked.
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Media talking up Stevie J
Please spare me
Last two games against us this year goalless
And only 10 possessions each game
Watch him blow up next Saturday when he has to chase an opponent
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Who else wants to see lids cop it in the arse
nice guy etc etc but yes.
not to mention campbell too
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Media talking up Stevie J
Please spare me
Last two games against us this year goalless
And only 10 possessions each game
Watch him blow up next Saturday when he has to chase an opponent
i hope we silence him and that flog very early.
more importantly i hope we shut that shaws mouth up one and for all.
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Media talking up Stevie J
Please spare me
Last two games against us this year goalless
And only 10 possessions each game
Watch him blow up next Saturday when he has to chase an opponent
They played witches hats last night .
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Giants set to go from 14k crowd to 80k MCG blockbuster
September 17, 2017 3:19pm
FOX SPORTS
GREATER Western Sydney are confident they can perform in front of what looms as the biggest crowd in their seven-year history after hosting the smallest VFL-AFL finals attendance in 101 years.
The Giants’ 67-point semi-final caning of West Coast on Saturday night at Spotless Stadium was witnessed by just 14,865 fans, the smallest finals crowd since Fitzroy and Collingwood drew just under 10,000 to an MCG semi-final in 1916.
Next Saturday’s preliminary final between the Giants and resurgent Richmond is expected to draw at least 80,000 fans.
That would easily eclipse the previous best crowd for a Giants game of 60,222 who watched the all-Sydney qualifying final against the Swans last year at ANZ Stadium.
Tigers legend Matthew Richardson was quoted as saying: “It (next Saturday’s game) will be the most one-sided crowd in the history of the game.”
GWS coach Leon Cameron and his players are adamant their club can deal with an overwhelmingly hostile audience in addition to a red-hot Richmond side hungry for a first flag in 37 years.
“As soon as that ball bounces, it doesn’t matter whether there’s 85,000 Richmond supporters and 10 or 15 Giants supporters, it’s got nothing to do with the result,” Cameron said.
“The result will be determined by who has the best 22 on the day.”
Cameron said there was no way to prepare his players for the kind of atmosphere they would face next Saturday, but pointed out they had won in front of big, hostile away crowds.
‘We’ve won games in Perth this year. We’ve won games in places that no doubt the crowd is bigger than our home crowd,” he said.
“But I think our guys are absolutely itching to get to the MCG. We’ve come in a different way this year. Last year we were the ones that obviously had to wait.
“But I can’t see our players worrying about the enormous amount of support that the opposition will have because I know a lot of these guys are just born to play on the MCG in finals. I reckon they’re ready to go.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-giants-set-to-go-from-14k-crowd-to-80k-mcg-blockbuster-as-richmond-preliminary-final-awaits/news-story/2de5555fcd5a165dfd0ced0267d2cc8b
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'Tiger-mania' tipped to attract huge MCG crowd for Richmond vs GWS preliminary final
Anthony Colangelo
The Age
SEPTEMBER 17 2017 - 6:42PM
Richmond are set to play in front of more than 90,000 people for the second time in as many matches as the MCG braces for Tiger-mania in Saturday's preliminary final.
The Tigers played in front of 95,028 people in their qualifying final two weeks ago against Geelong - their first finals win since 2001 - and will on Saturday face the Greater Western Sydney Giants for a spot in their first grand final since their loss to Carlton in 1982.
And while Richmond fans significantly outnumbered Geelong fans at the MCG earlier in September, Melbourne's sporting colosseum will be even more parochial this time around with officials at the Giants don't "expect many fans" will make the trip to Victoria from New South Wales.
The biggest crowd the Giants have ever played in front of is 60,222 in their 2016 qualifying final win over Sydney at ANZ Stadium. However GWS wilted under the pressure of the Adelaide Oval's 52,805 crowd during the 2017 qualifying final loss to the Crows. Coach Leon Cameron is adamant his side won't be spooked.
"We've won games in Perth this year. We've won games in places that no doubt the crowd is bigger than our home crowds," Cameron said. "But I think our guys are absolutely itching to get to the MCG.
"I can't see our players worrying about the enormous amount of support that the opposition will have because I know a lot of these guys are just born to play on the MCG in finals. I reckon they're ready to go."
The Giants have lost four of their last five games at the MCG. Their last win was a 64 point triumph over Melbourne in 2014. They were beaten by Richmond in a wet second half in round 18 this year, losing by 19 points.
Only 14,865 people turned out to Spotless Stadium to watch the Giants trounce West Coast in Saturday night's semi final despite the club having just over 20,000 members. About 3,000 of those were Eagles fans who had travelled from Perth.
Richmond midfielder Josh Caddy told Channel Seven's Game Day program on Sunday morning that the Tigers were comfortable with the hype engulfing Melbourne.
"We have heaps of supporters and it's been a long time since they've been in this position ... we believe we are better off embracing it (the hype) and using the wave of emotion to our advantage."
Given the lack of GWS fans all Richmond members should be able to secure a ticket one way or another (either through sales to members or to the general public) while the overall crowd figure will depend, as is often the case at the MCG, on how many MCC members turn up.
In 2007 for the preliminary final between Geelong and Collingwood MCC members were turned away at the gate because the area had reached capacity. The crowd that night was a whopping 98,002. This was higher than other recent preliminary finals featuring big Melbourne clubs like Collingwood vs Hawthorn in 2011 (87,112) , Collingwood vs Geelong in 2010 (95,241), Collingwood vs Geelong in 2009 (87,258) and even Anzac Day in 2013 which attracted 93,373 fans.
Crowds gathered to queue outside the MCC five hours before bounce of the Geelong vs Richmond qualifying final two weeks ago, and it is expected that there will be similar scenes on Saturday, so fans are urged to arrive early to be inside the stadium by 4:45pm.
The game is being played in the twilight timeslot so GWS can make a flight back to Sydney as early as possible should they win and advance to the grand final.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigermania-tipped-to-attract-huge-mcg-crowd-for-richmond-vs-gws-preliminary-final-20170917-gyj836.html
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This is a left field statement, but I would bring Moore in for Castagna..
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Yeah not with GWS going small now I wouldn't...
...losing Mumford & Cameron blessings in disguse for them.... :shh
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...losing Mumford & Cameron blessings in disguse for them.... :shh
Agreed.
Don't know why they were going so tall through the season.
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Lol ....how much defensive pressure will Stevie J apply next week or Patton . Ball will be flying out .
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This is a left field statement, but I would bring Moore in for Castagna..
Moore is rookie and can't be promoted so cannot play
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This is a left field statement, but I would bring Moore in for Castagna..
Moore is rookie and cant be promoted so cannot play
Statement needs to be recategorised as out of field
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Will the Tiger train continue to run?
Michelangelo Rucci,
The Advertiser
18 September 2017
THE Advertiser’s Chief Football Writer Michelangelo Rucci takes a look at the giant task awaiting GWS against the Richmond at the MCG on Saturday.
PRELIMINARY FINAL
Richmond v GWS
MCG, Saturday, 4.15pm
RICHMOND
1. CAN THEY?
IT is the most-fascinating football - and life - story of the day: Richmond on the eve of its first AFL grand final since 1982.
This is the Tigers’ first preliminary final since 2001 (against Brisbane at the Gabba) and first preliminary final at the MCG since 1973 (a win against Collingwood in front of 98,652 fans).
Just a month ago, the key question was: Would Richmond win a final, after the recent elimination final failures?
Now the Tigers are one win from a grand final - and ending the longest absence from the “big dance”.
So there are still those questions of whether Richmond can be trusted ... and how do the Tigers deal with the burden of expectation and the look from those 90,000 faces in the crowd with that look that can make footballers freeze.
And didn’t Giants captain Phil Davis take up the opportunity - in the post-match on Saturday night - to remind the Richmond players of that expectation by noting: “There’s been 10 pages a day on Richmond down there (in Melbourne).”
2. CHAMPION TEAM?
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick will have noted the stark difference in the Greater Western Sydney finals performances against Adelaide in the qualifying final and a flat West Coast in the semi-finals:
The Giants love time and space. And, as has been well known, they do have many champion players who are still to prove they assemble as a champion team.
Hardwick has rebuilt Richmond with a sound defence around All-Australian captain Alex Rance, strengthened the Tigers midfield by adding significant “role” players around Brownlow Medallist Trent Cotchin and Brownlow Medal favourite Dustin Martin and created an intriguing attack with one main target in Jack Riewoldt and a squad of not-so-tall options who savour direct movement to the goalfront.
But is it enough to stand as the champion team of the season.
MEDICAL ROOM
N. Drummond (knee) season
THE ODDS
MATCH
Richmond $1.62
GWS $2.30
FLAG
Richmond $3
GWS $5.25
GWS GIANTS
1. ARE THEY GIANTS?
IT was a nice refresher course for the Giants as Greater Western Sydney danced through a “training drill” in the semi-final against an exhausted West Coast unit at Spotless Stadium in west Sydney on Saturday night.
But now it is to the MCG with 90,000 or more Richmond fans wanting to make the Giants appear very small.
The biggest “away” crowd outside of Sydney for the Giants players is the 52,305 at Adelaide Oval during the qualifying final played a fortnight ago - although the manic nature of the Crows players was more telling than crowd.
But this is the MCG - and it is the Richmond crowd.
Giants captain Phil Davis says his team is well-adjusted to dealing with hostile crowd - and well versed on taking crowds out of the game by setting the agenda on the field.
The MCG is often described as a field with “too much space” - that leads to visiting teams playing too wide. It will be a grand test of the Giants who have just one win in 10 games at the MCG - against Melbourne in August 2014.
The biggest crowd the Giants have faced at the MCG was 43,390 in the clash with Collingwood in June 2015.
2. STEVIE J ENCORE?
HE returned - and Steve Johnson proved, with his six goals against West Coast in the semi-finals, that there is still something left in those 34-year-old legs.
And, after missing last year’s home preliminary final against the Western Bulldogs by suspension, there is that extra edge of motivation as Stevie J holds onto that one last chance to add to his grand final record with Geelong with whom he won three premierships (2007, 2009 and 2011).
The Giants set-up is significantly different from the qualifying final by the loss by injury of ruckman Shane Mumford and key forward Jeremy Cameron.
The move of Rory Lobb to ruck and the reshape of the GWS attack around Jonathon Patton certainly paid off against the Eagles, particularly with the Giants rediscovering fast run from the outside of the contest.
Keeping such free ball movement would make the MCG become a very, very quiet place.
MEDICAL ROOM
M. Buntine (knee) season
J. Cameron (hamstring) season
A. Kennedy (knee) season
S. Mumford (foot) season
EARLY CALL
TIGERS by 17 points
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/will-richmond-steam-into-first-grand-final-since-1982/news-story/eb370618b1f40da8e18de4cac42b912c
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From today's Age
Michael Gleeson
18 September 2017
Deledio will no doubt play back again. He looked better there and it released Williams to play as a mid-forward. That had as big an effect as anything in the improved Giants ball movement and forward set-up.
Williams, like Deledio, has pace but Williams has a dancer's feet. Deledio, while fast, is a straight-line runner. He can run a diagonal but not with the light craftiness of Williams.
Ideally, this Saturday you want to see Deledio on Dustin Martin one out in the goal square at the Punt Road end, competing in front of a vocal yellow and black army. It's doubtful that will happen.
While Martin would be too strong for Deledio, the Giants would in any event not want Deledio deep in defence. When he plays behind the ball he plays high half-back, while Martin, when he is forward, tends to play deep in attack.
With Deledio, Leon Cameron, Wayne Campbell (football manager) and Craig Cameron (list manager), the Giants have a solid quartet of former Tigers for whom this match will carry extra sentiment.
The Giants lost last year's preliminary final against the Bulldogs in what was a confrontingly hostile home environment. And that was the Bulldogs at Spotless Stadium! Quite how they will then cope with a frothing 80 to 90,000 at the MCG is anyone's idea.
The Giants will hope the crowd creates a perverse pressure on Richmond, that it lifts the expectation. It is a thin hope.
For all the Giants' draft picks, this Richmond side has three star players superior in talent to anything the Giants have on this year's form. The Giants do not have an equal for Martin, Alex Rance or Trent Cotchin.
Equally, the Giants then have probably six or eight players – Josh Kelly, Toby Greene, Tom Scully, Jonathon Patton, Stephen Coniglio, Dylan Shiel, Lachie Whitfield – of arguably superior quality to Richmond's next-best bracket.
The query is whether the Giants have the depth in their midfield to better the greater quality of the Tiger stars. Deledio can make the introductions for them.
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Stevie Johnson can't be dropped now. Of course, when you kick six goals, and four in a quarter, that is not a big statement.
Whether his creaking, aching knees recover enough for him to back up for Saturday's prelim, something that has been a week-to-week question all year, is the only thing stopping him being picked now.
True, Johnson didn't kick his first goal until the Giants were seven goals up on Saturday but he was disruptive early on and he made the reconfigured Giants forward line more creative.
The Giants were too tall against the Crows and looked far better on Saturday for the forced changes injuries demanded. Rory Lobb played as a genuine ruckman and looked good where Shane Mumford was sore and immobile. Cameron would have played if fit and so Harry Himmelberg would have missed.
The Giants' forward line looked better when firstly they were able to move the ball with pace in the midfield, but then not bomb it long and dumb as they did early on and let Jeremy McGovern mark it. Once the ball started turning over in midfield and coming in fast and varied to the forwards McGovern – who has great hands but is not quick – didn't have time to get back or to get across to contests.
With Johnson, Patton and Greene as genuine targets they had choices, but they also had Zac Williams pressing forward with Deledio playing in defence. Wiliams gave them more speed and pressure but generally the Giants mindset seemed to shift to play with more urgency to defend in their forward line.
Ordinarily you would expect David Astbury to go to Jonathon Patton this week and Rance to play on the young Himmelberg.
The Tigers are rare in that they have a player in Dylan Grimes who is the ideal match up for Toby Greene. Grimes is quick enough for Greene but is taller and good overhead.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/4-points-time-for-extiger-to-lift-the-lid-for-giants-20170917-gyjavr.html
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Will GWS try to tag Dustin Martin? Can anyone stop Dustin Martin? Who will win, GWS or Richmond AFL Finals.
JON RALPH,
Herald Sun
18 September 2017
LEON Cameron could choose to run the gauntlet and not heavily tag Dustin Martin on Saturday night despite the hottest season in AFL history.
The GWS coach has an array of options, including run-with star Stephen Coniglio and hard-headed co-captain Callan Ward.
Yet Saturday’s preliminary final shapes as a clash free of heavy tags if recent history is any guide.
In Round 18, Martin was coming off his most dominant game of the season against Brisbane — 40 disposals, 12 inside 50s, 14 clearances and two goals.
Yet in that MCG clash the Giants allowed him to run around opposed to unheralded midfielder Matthew Kennedy for much of the game.
The result: another “triple double”, as Martin had 31 disposals, 11 clearances, 10 inside-50s and a goal in a 19-point Tigers victory.
The injured Coniglio did not play in that contest and as a tagger who made the All Australian 40 last year he seems the perfect candidate.
He runs hard, he can play inside and outside, he is strong enough to at least try to negate Martin’s power game.
But in the effortless win over West Coast, Cameron chose to prioritise ball movement over restricting the opposition’s stars.
He didn’t tag any of Luke Shuey, Andrew Gaff, Matt Priddis or Sam Mitchell.
This year Coniglio has tagged Jack Steven in Round 7, played on Patrick Dangerfield for 31 minutes in Round 23 and Matt Crouch for 44 minutes in the qualifying final.
None of them were pure tags, with Crouch one of Adelaide’s best players with 31 disposals.
In the Round 9 win over Richmond, Ward went head-to-head with Martin for 22 minutes when the Brownlow Medal favourite played in the midfield.
At Richmond Shaun Grigg shapes as the midfield cooler most likely to go to young star Josh Kelly.
But while the Tigers have used Grigg, Kane Lambert and even Dion Prestia in accountable roles they don’t run with a start-to-finish tagger.
Kelly wasn’t tagged in Round 9 and had 31 possessions, but Grigg went to him for 47 minutes in the Round 18 win.
Kelly had 11 touches to Grigg’s 10, a victory for the Tigers on what was a heavy MCG track.
Dylan Shiel cut West Coast to ribbons at Spotless Stadium but again history shows the Tigers won’t tag him.
His main match-ups in those games were Prestia and Anthony Miles, both for just on 20 minutes.
Martin was able to get off the chain in the second half against Geelong when Cam Guthrie went down with a calf injury.
He once used to run out of gas in second halves but his brilliance this year has been his ability to secure mismatches as a forward with dominance after the main break.
Leon Cameron had a triumphant game from the coaches box against West Coast, with revitalised ruckman Rory Lobb shaping as a real concern for Richmond ruckman Toby Nankervis.
But if Coniglio affixes himself to Martin’s side from the first bounce, it will be a significant departure from Cameron’s strategies this season.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/jon-ralph-examines-leon-camerons-options-for-trying-to-stop-star-tiger-dustin-martin/news-story/af6bdffb8cee37080d77d81d557cef83
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Did the tiger's play their Grand Final last week???? that's what a Giant's fan on SEN is claiming
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Did the tiger's play their Grand Final last week???? that's what a Giant's fan on SEN is claiming
Most fans wouldn't know
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Did the tiger's play their Grand Final last week???? that's what a Giant's fan on SEN is claiming
Most fans wouldn't know
He's a Giants fan so gas no clue to start with :shh
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Did the tiger's play their Grand Final last week???? that's what a Giant's fan on SEN is claiming
He's in for a rude shock.
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WC looked pretty insipid, must of been pretty tired after that game with Port, which was a good hard tussle. I don't think GWS looked that good to be honest, WC hardly competed, they barely chased, put no pressure on, and generally adopted witches hat positions for most of that game. Hopefully we can shell shock this afl confection when they turn up and we hit them with the blitzkrieg
WC were totally insipid. Living in WA I enjoyed that aspect of the game.
GWS are very difficult to figure out. List chock full of talent that doesn't play as a team yet. Has happened with just about every list of any new team in my time watching the AFL. Port the only exception.
I have a theory that these new clubs need to go through at least half a generation of players before they actually develop the required cohesion amongst their playing group to be fully effective on the field.
They keep turning players over like a cattle yard because they have so many, they have done the same with admin and staff so how would anyone there feel any comraderie is beyond me...pick up your big paycheck and hope you get head hunted lol
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Did the tiger's play their Grand Final last week???? that's what a Giant's fan on SEN is claiming
He's in for a rude shock.
a cat nugget of wisdom from a fan of a cardboard cutout club in it's infancy. I would like to see his face when his team runs out next week and our crowd hit the brown note for em.
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Check out the comment by garrybarry. :o
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/second-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws-giants-saturday-september-23-mcg-4-45pm.1177446/page-2
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The MCG website says they are expecting 90k to turn up :gotigers.
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Opening times
Gates
Public 2.30pm
AFL Reserve 2.30pm
MCC Reserve 1.30pm
Parking
Gate 3: 12.00pm
Gate 5: 1.00pm
Gate 6: 1.00pm
Gate 7: 11.30am
Estimated attendance
90,000
Tickets
Tickets will be on sale to the general public from Monday September 18 at 2.00pm.
Reserved seats for AFL members go on sale on Tuesday September 19 at 9.00am. Note: Bronze AFL members do not have access to this match.
CAR PARKING ADVICE
With a large crowd expected, car parking in Yarra Park is limited.
Drivers should arrive as early as possible, or seek an alternative transport method, as space will fill before match time.
Special offer: Footy fans can also park at Le Garage (114 Flinders St) at a discounted rate of $8 by scanning your event ticket at the pay station.
Arrive early
Security measures such as bag checks and patron scanning will again be in place as fans make their way into the stadium.
This process will take time, so please be patient - and limit the number of bags you bring. Each bag will be inspected, so the more bags you bring the longer it will take.
It is recommended that fans arrive by around 3.00pm-3.30pm, as those who arrive later may miss the teams run out and/or the start of the match.
Help us help you
Security and event staff are doing an important job, so please help them by co-operating at all times.
Be our eyes and ears: If you see something you think is suspicious, immediately inform event staff, a security guard or police.
Cheer squad seating
Richmond: Bay M3
GWS GIANTS: Bay M33
http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/september/afl-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws-giants
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Warm-ish but gusty winds and showers on Saturday according to the Bureau:
Saturday 23 September
Summary
Min 11
Max 21
A few showers.
Possible rainfall: 1 to 6 mm
Chance of any rain: 70%
Melbourne area
Cloudy. High (70%) chance of showers developing from midday. Winds northerly 25 to 35 km/h turning west to northwesterly 20 to 25 km/h during the day.
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Despite just one game in 26 days, Richmond is confident its players are primed for Saturday's prelim final with GWS. @AyrtonWoolley #9News
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/909699730422112256
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Check out the comment by garrybarry. :o
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/second-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws-giants-saturday-september-23-mcg-4-45pm.1177446/page-2
I like the IanW response.
Spoken like someone who actually knows something about footy.
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Check out the comment by garrybarry. :o
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/second-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws-giants-saturday-september-23-mcg-4-45pm.1177446/page-2
I like the IanW response.
Spoken like someone who actually knows something about footy.
Interesting the post about only 1200 GWS tickets sold ;D
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crying to the umpires before the ball has bounced, fmd he has to be kidding.
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I am pumped! I was in a meeting and I was sweating about tickets but a mate hooked me up. I also happen to live in Richmond so a few pre drinks and travellers on the way to the G is in order. Can't wait to get amongst it!!!
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I am pumped! I was in a meeting and I was sweating about tickets but a mate hooked me up. I also happen to live in Richmond so a few pre drinks and travellers on the way to the G is in order. Can't wait to get amongst it!!!
:gotigers
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Kevin Sheedy backs Giants to handle Tiger Army ahead of club's first MCG final
Chris Cavanagh,
Herald Sun
19 September 2017
INAUGURAL GWS coach Kevin Sheedy says he would be disappointed if the Giants are overawed by an expected 90,000-strong Tiger army at the MCG on Saturday.
Ticket sale websites went into meltdown on Monday as more than 75,000 Richmond members snapped up seats for the match at a rate of up to 1200 a minute.
A record 95,028 fans attended the Tigers’ qualifying final against Geelong — most in yellow and black — and the Richmond roar around the MCG is set to be even louder this weekend with only a few thousand Giants fans set to travel south for the clash.
GWS has played in front of average crowds of 20,819 this season, with the biggest attendance it has ever had for a game being 60,222 for its qualifying final clash with Sydney at ANZ Stadium last year.
But Sheedy, who also played 251 games for Richmond, said the crowd would be only a small factor in the contest and GWS had to tackle the first MCG final in its short history sooner or later.
“I can only go back to when I played. I never worried about the crowd, I just worried about the ball,” Sheedy said.
“I’d be disappointed if they were (overawed), but it will be a great experience for them. They’re a six-year-old club. You’ve got to start sometime in the journey, coming to the MCG.
“The power of concentration is fantastic but a lot of people don’t talk about it. That’s all you’ve got to do in this situation. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a Giants player or a Richmond player, you just need total concentration on the ball when you have it and when you have to get it back.”
While GWS has won just one of 11 matches at the MCG in its short history, Richmond has made the ground a fortress this season both due to its game style and large supporter base.
The Tigers have won 10 of 12 games at the venue in front of average crowds of 62,959, with their two losses coming to Sydney (nine points) and Fremantle (two points).
Statistics show Richmond defends the MCG better than any other team, the club conceding an average of just 67.9 points a game which is more than 20 per cent better than the AFL average of 85 points.
The Tigers also rate better than the AFL average for restricting opposition inside-50 counts and end-to-end transitions at the ground.
Sheedy was coy when asked about his allegiance for Saturday’s match given his close ties to both clubs.
“I think I’ll wear a Collingwood scarf,” he joked.
RICHMOND AT THE MCG
P12 W10 L2 131.4%
1 Carlton — Won by 43
2 Collingwood — Won by 19
3 West Coast — Won by 11
5 Melbourne — Won by 13
8 Fremantle — Lost by 2
10 Essendon — Won by 15
13 Sydney — Lost by 9
14 Carlton — Won by 26
18 GWS — Won by 19
20 Hawthorn — Won by 29
23 St Kilda — Won by 41
41 QF Geelong — Won by 51
Source: CHAMPION DATA
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/former-gws-coach-kevin-sheedy-backs-giants-to-handle-tiger-army-ahead-of-clubs-first-mcg-final/news-story/3a298b612855c9d06183cfe6f80079b9
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Mega-preview: Second preliminary final, Richmond v GWS
afl.com.au
19 September 2017
SUMMARY
The fairytale team of this year's finals takes on the game's most talented list in what shapes as an intriguing battles of defence and offence. If defence wins premierships, Richmond is in the box seat to reach a historic Grand Final. But the hard run and slick attack of GWS can never be discounted and it travels to the MCG with experience in a preliminary final after last year's loss to the Western Bulldogs. The Tigers will go in with just one player (Josh Caddy) who has played this deep into September, but they are battering down hurdles this season and look like a team on a mission. With more than 90,000 fans set to cheer them on, it will take something special from GWS to stop the Tigers' charge.
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Saturday September 23, 4.45pm AEST
WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR?
Round nine: GWS 11.12 (78) d Richmond 10.15 (75) at Spotless Stadium
It was heartbreak for the Tigers, who lost their third straight match by less than a goal. GWS staged a stunning comeback, with Jeremy Cameron kicking a goal with just over a minute to play. The Tigers had looked like winners moments earlier when debutant Shai Bolton snapped a goal, only to have it overturned on review.
Round 18: Richmond 9.10 (64) d GWS 6.9 (45) at the MCG
The Tigers jumped back into the top four with a 19-point win in the rain at the MCG, coming back from 20 points down at quarter-time. Dustin Martin was the star with 31 possessions (17 contested) and 11 clearances. The rain suited the hard-tackling Tigers, who came into their own in the wet.
LAST FIVE TIMES
R18, 2017, Richmond 9.10 (64) d GWS 6.9 (45) at the MCG
R9, 2017, GWS 11.12 (78) d Richmond 10.15 (75) at Spotless Stadium
R19, 2016, GWS 17.9 (111) d Richmond 3.5 (23) at Manuka Oval
R14, 2015, Richmond 10.18 (78) d GWS 10.9 (69) at the MCG
R19, 2014, Richmond 13.11 (89) d GWS 8.14 (62) at the MCG
WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Richmond
1. Nick Vlastuin is the player Richmond will be attempting to play loose across half-back. He was magnificent against Geelong with 10 intercept possessions and 10 marks, and the Giants will no doubt try to keep him accountable.
2. Crucial in the Tigers' round 18 win was their ability to limit Josh Kelly's effectiveness. The smooth-moving Giant went at 69.6 per cent efficiency with the ball, with the Tigers pressuring him at every chance.
3. Locking the ball inside 50 is the Tigers' best form of defence. Watch for the midfielders to surge the ball forward with deep entries and let the small forwards go to work with their tackling pressure. They had 21 inside 50 tackles to four against Geelong.
Greater Western Sydney
1. Phil Davis will be looking to recreate his sterling job on Jack Riewoldt from round 18, when he restricted the spearhead to two goals and three marks. He'll have help from Aidan Corr, but will the Giants go in smaller in defence, using Adam Tomlinson elsewhere?
2. The Giants will need to get their running game going. In round 18 against the Tigers they had one running bounce for the match. They had 11 in the semi-final win against West Coast.
3. The Giants will target one of the Tigers' star midfielders as a group, but a hard tag on Dustin Martin is unlikely. The most defensively minded of the midfielders will be Stephen Coniglio, who still racked up 35 possessions against the Eagles.
THE SIX POINTS
1. The Giants have a statistical advantage with their clearance game. They rank No.1 for clearances (42.5 a game) and No.2 for centre clearances (14.0). The Tigers rank No.14 for clearances (42.5).
2. This will be the first finals meeting between these teams. Richmond’s win in round 18 ended a two-game winning run for the Giants. The Tigers had won the first five clashes between the sides, including two by more than 100 points.
3. The Tigers continue to be one of the best defensive teams this season, conceding only 74 points a game. The Giants have conceded 81 points a game.
4. Richmond will be playing in its first preliminary final since 2001 when it was thrashed by the Brisbane Lions. This is the second straight season the Giants will play in a preliminary final following last year's loss to the Western Bulldogs.
5. The Tigers have been impressive this season at the MCG winning 10 of 12 matches with their two losses by only two and nine points. GWS has played only 11 times at the MCG in their history for one win.
6. GWS has three players – Toby Greene (No.14), Dylan Shiel (No.17) and Zac Williams (No.20) – ranked in the top 20 of the Schick AFL Player Ratings. The Tigers have two – Dustin Martin (No.2) and Trent Cotchin (No.15).
WHAT THE COACHES SAY
Damien Hardwick: "It was certainly not a game we'll go and get back out of the archives, but from an intensity and effort [point of view] I thought it was terrific. The first quarter we looked a little bit off the pace, they probably didn't capitalise as much as they should have, but I thought the second and third quarters we really controlled proceedings." – after the round 18 win against GWS.
Leon Cameron: "It's exciting for our footy club and I was at the Richmond footy club for four years so I know how big the army can become. It's great for footy but as soon as that ball bounces, it doesn't matter if there's 85,000 Richmond supporters and 10,000 Giants supporters, the result will be determined by the best 22 on the day." – after the semi-final win against West Coast.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR … Brett Deledio
The former Tiger comes up against his old club for the first time in what will also be his 250th game. Deledio played 243 games for the Tigers over 12 seasons, leaving at the end of 2016 on good terms. A favourite of the Tiger Army during his time at Punt Road Oval, he will be entering enemy territory now. The Giants used Deledio across half-back in their semi-final win against the Eagles and he will be keen to impress in the first preliminary final of his career.
PREDICTION: Richmond by 12 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-18/megapreview-second-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws
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Alot of media and afl fans saying we will get done as we don't have as much class and rely on tackling and pressure.Load of BS that is we have had one of the best backlines this season along with our midfield and a standout ruckman to.
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We need big games from Prestia,Caddy and Lambert against there midfield and one of the small forwards to kick a few.
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Thank stuff sheedy didn't back us, talk about the kiss of death ...
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Check out the comment by garrybarry. :o
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/second-preliminary-final-richmond-v-gws-giants-saturday-september-23-mcg-4-45pm.1177446/page-2
I like the IanW response.
Spoken like someone who actually knows something about footy.
Interesting the post about only 1200 GWS tickets sold ;D
AFL website saying now up to 3000.
They might get to 3500 by bounce down.
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Time for the Tigers to kick on
Richmond's dominance in the qualifying final against Geelong masked that seven players had fewer than 10 disposals.
It was the highest number of Tiger players with so few disposals in a game this season.
On the flipside, Richmond's 92 tackles was the side's most in a game since round four, 2015, when they laid 95 tackles.
Where the Giants have the edge in Saturday night's prelim …
It's likely the GWS line-up will take 35 games of preliminary final experience into the big clash against Richmond.
In contrast the only Tiger with previous preliminary final experience is former Cat Josh Caddy. He played in the Cats' 2013 and 2016 preliminary finals.
… and where they don't
Callan Ward is the only Giant to have played in each of the club's 11 games at the MCG.
The Giants' record at the venue ahead of Saturday night's clash? One win, 10 losses.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-19/stats-files-what-brodie-smiths-absence-means-for-adelaide
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Tigers should be very wary of Giants: Derm
By Justin Talent
SEN
20 September 2017
Five-time Hawthorn premiership star Dermott Brereton says that Richmond cannot afford to take the GWS Giants lightly in their upcoming preliminary final.
Despite the former Hawk believing that the Tigers' huge home ground advantage at the MCG will be a huge asset for them, with the vast majority of the expected 90,000-strong crowd to turn up in yellow and black, he believes the Giants can cause an upset and book their debut Grand Final appearance.
“I think it’s going to be a lot closer than people think. These kids believe,” Brereton told SEN’s The Run Home on Monday.
“Once they broke the West Coast Eagles, the ability to play football on their terms is outstanding. If Richmond drop off, the Giants will capitalise on that.”
The clash this weekend will set a new record for attendance in a game the Giants have played in, smashing their previous high of 60,222 at ANZ Stadium in their qualifying final win over the Sydney Swans last year.
However Brereton says that for the majority of the Giants players, the hostile atmosphere will not bother them.
“Some young kids don’t give a stuff. They have got a few, make no mistake about that,” the former Hawthorn forward said.
“There are a lot of top 10 picks there that know they’re good. They’ve always believed 'we’re going to make it'.
He also says that he would be pleased for the club if they breakthrough for their first appearance in the premiership decider, having been involved with the club in their formative years as a forwards coach.
"The first couple of years I was going up there, you’d go in there and see them coming in week-in, week-out, they were 100, 120 point lashings and these kids were walking in thinking ‘yeah alright, I know I’m alright compared to other kids my age, but how do we get through this?" said Brereton.
“These kids were walking into the club with their butts dragging along the ground, their bottom lip hanging down below their chest.
“You had to pick these kids up and they just kept fronting up. Now they are really good and accomplished players. They may be the privileged ones taken in the absolute top end of the draft, but they have earned their stripes.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/19/tigers-should-be-very-wary-of-giants-derm/
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Crow, Tiger fans should be nervous says former star Brad Ottens
By Ben Casanelia
SEN
20 September 2017
Triple premiership Geelong ruckman Brad Ottens rates preliminary finals harder to win than Grand Finals given the mental baggage attached to football’s penultimate weekend.
As Adelaide prepares to host Geelong at the Adelaide Oval, and Richmond does battle with GWS at the MCG, the retired Cat says the varying degree of pressure on each side, and the different factors underpinning that pressure creates unpredictability when it comes to determining results.
The Crows and Tigers are heavy favourites to progress to the Grand Final.
“It’s human nature to look forward, particularly the heavily favoured team and while there is a preliminary final to win there is a fraction of your mind that has had two weeks, to not only think ahead, but play the preliminary final over and over in your head,” he said.
“The winning semi-final teams have that broken up by the game last week so there has been potentially less nervous energy spent.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/20/crow-tiger-fans-should-be-nervous-says-former-star/
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GWS Giants' Steve Johnson completes training and set to play preliminary final.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/gws-giants-steve-johnson-completes-training-and-set-to-play-preliminary-final-20170920-gyl3tf.html
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Back to a Saturday forecast of warm and windy with a late shower or two.
Saturday 23 September
Summary
Min 16
Max 25
Shower or two. Very windy.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 1 mm
Chance of any rain: 60%
Melbourne area
Partly cloudy. Medium (60%) chance of showers and the risk of a thunderstorm, most likely in the afternoon and evening. Winds northerly 25 to 40 km/h increasing to 40 to 60 km/h during the morning then shifting cooler west to northwesterly 25 to 40 km/h during the afternoon.
Sun protection recommended from 9:50 am to 2:40 pm, UV Index predicted to reach 5 [Moderate]
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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If there are showers.... Bring in Miles!!!!!
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Richmond's pressure game the key to beating GWS Giants in preliminary final showdown
SAM LANDSBERGER,
Herald Sun
21 September 2017
PRESSURE.
It is the cornerstone of Richmond’s sizzling new game plan.
It is how forwards coach Justin Leppitsch grades Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna and Dan Butler every week.
“Our main role is to put pressure on for the team and provide supports for the midfielders and backs,” Butler said last week.
“The scrappier it is the better, because we’re always there to pounce and apply pressure and tackle.”
It is what engulfed Geelong in the qualifying final. And here’s the sweet part for Tiger fans - it is the one ingredient preliminary final opponent Greater Western Sydney cannot stomach.
The Giants have received more than 192 pressure points in four matches this season … for four defeats.
Against the Cats a fortnight ago, the Tigers applied a season-best 209 pressure points. Champion Data says that is off the charts.
Unsuspecting Cats players were spooked by the one-sided crowd and ultimately overawed by their opponents.
The number boffins assign a pressure rating to every disposal in every match and that night they were made to earn their keep.
The 2017 season average is 181 pressure points and anything north of 190 is regarding as hot football.
Breach 200 and you are sweating over almost every disposal as a sense of claustrophobia sweeps in.
If the Tigers can replicate that manic brand on Saturday they should be playing off in their first Grand Final since 1982.
The four clubs that have forced the Giants to wilt under the searing pressure are Sydney, St Kilda, Geelong and Adelaide.
They copped 207 pressure points from the Swans in Round 17 (lost by 13 points), 198 from the Saints in Round 7 (lost by 23 points) and 197 from both the Cats in Round 23 (lost by 44 points) and the Crows in the qualifying final (lost by 36 points).
When the Cats fielded their weakest team for the season and applied 191 pressure points in Round 15, they drew with the Giants.
West Coast applied just 175 pressure points to GWS in Saturday night’s semi-final, the fewest by any finalist so far.
For September, it was a timid standard in front of a tiny crowd at Spotless Stadium and that game looms as a far different setting to facing the Tigers in front of 95,000 at the MCG.
Perhaps MCG officials should press play on Queen’s 1982 hit Under Pressure when the Giants run onto the MCG.
Because that they will be.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmonds-pressure-game-the-key-to-beating-gws-giants-in-preliminary-final-showdown/news-story/2e5058293875fe7b6f8d0206020452b4
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Are small-ball Richmond Tigers revolutionising footy
Alex Malcolm
ESPN AFL
21 September 2017
And The Big Men Fly.
That was the name of Alan Hopgood's 1963 play about an Australian Rules Football team. The cover of the paperback version is an image of a Carlton player taking a contested mark. But this September has been devoid of them.
Three of the six finals played this year have featured less than 20 contested marks in total. Eight of nine finals last year featured more than 20, with 34 taken in the grand final. The aerial feats of Tom Boyd (six contested marks) and Jordan Roughead (three) for the Western Bulldogs in the decider were every bit as valuable as the run and dash of Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen.
But things have changed so far this September.
What has given rise to this year of small ball? For Richmond, it has been a feature all season and was established to best maximise the particular strengths of Richmond's list - the Tigers opted for a forward line that is built on smalls with great defensive pressure.
"We just try and put on as much pressure as we can and if we get touches and goals then great but all our foundation comes from great pressure," Richmond's Dan Butler told ESPN.
There are no surprises with what the Tigers will bring on Saturday against Greater Western Sydney. Tigers coach Damien Hardwick has described his side's defensive pressure as their "one wood," and they suffocated Geelong in a ground ball war of attrition in the qualifying final and will look do so again against GWS.
Do the Giants go toe-to-toe? They picked a smaller, quicker side against West Coast partly by design to exploit the Eagles' talls, but also due to the injuries to Shane Mumford and Jeremy Cameron.
Coach Leon Cameron was non-committal about whether picking a smaller side made the Giants better.
"Sometimes it does work and sometimes it doesn't, tonight it worked," Cameron said post-match last Saturday.
"Our main focus was being cleaner and absorbing pressure. We were poor against the Crows at absorbing pressure. And then maintaining our rage with our pressure, our tackle pressure. I thought we did that pretty well.
"From that, our ball movement was clearly better than it has been the last three or four weeks and we moved the ball in a manner that probably gave our forwards a better opportunity than what we have in the last couple of weeks. So that was pleasing but it all came off the back of the pressure that we provided."
Giants midfielder Tom Scully said the Tigers' pressure was the best in the competition.
"I think Richmond have set the benchmark of their forward pressure and their pressure all around the ground," Scully told ESPN.
"Obviously they've got a lot of smaller guys in there that are very, very quick and they apply great pressure and it's something that we've looked at. We've played a number of different sides where we've played probably a bit taller up in our forward line and some weeks we've gone a bit smaller.
"On the weekend we went a little bit smaller and it helped our ability to keep the ball inside our forward half and to apply pressure. We've got some flexibility down there and I'm sure whatever way we go it's going to help suit our game style."
There is a case to be made that Giants should attempt to stretch Richmond in the air particularly given that some of their rebound from defence won't be as unpressured as it was against West Coast. The likes of Nathan Wilson and Heath Shaw were able to rebound with impunity against the Eagles but defender Aidan Corr thinks it won't be that simple against Richmond.
"(Richmond's) small forward line for us backs puts a lot of pressure on," Corr told ESPN.
"They keep the ball in their forward half and it makes it very hard for us to ignite our ball movement. That's something we're concentrating on at the moment. You hope for a nice dry day so you can get a bit of aerial power.
"You just have to be switched on. You can't always run it out, sometimes you've just got to surge it out, quicker ball movement, quicker decisions, sometimes you'll have to just kick it out long because you're going to get run down from behind by a small forward."
In such a scenario, the outlet contested marking targets of Rory Lobb and Jonathon Patton become vital.
In fact, there is a case to be made that the Tigers can be attacked in the air - they have only lost two games by more than 14 points this season, with Adelaide and St Kilda taking 25 and 21 contested marks in 76- and 67-point wins respectively.
It might be in the Giants' interests to see the big men fly. Small ball at the MCG might suit the Tigers down to the ground.
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/20762278/are-small-ball-richmond-tigers-revolutionising-footy
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Giants to upset Tiger applecart says Eade
By SEN
21 September 2017
Four-time premiership player and former AFL coach Rodney Eade is tipping GWS to upset Richmond in Saturday’s preliminary final.
Despite the bookmakers marking the Tigers a raging favourite, Eade believes the Giants class and hard edge can rise to the challenge of beating a team in front of 90,000 hostile fans.
“I think they can win,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“I know it was easy last week and there wasn’t the pressure against West Coast, but if they can have their hard-edge mentality and bring that, and then match what Richmond bring, then the Giants cleanliness and talent around the ball and efficiency up forward can beat the Tigers.”
Eade is tipping a fiery opening, headlined by veteran Giant Steve Johnson.
“I love their mental edge,” he said.
“I expect Stevie Johnson to run through someone early and knock a few over.”
In last year’s qualifying final Johnson concussed Swans’ star Josh Kennedy with a front-on bump that earned him a one-week suspension.
The former Suns’ coach expects Leon Cameron to leave out defender Adam Tomlinson as he structures a defence to counter the small Tiger forwardline.
“He played well last week Tomlinson but he lacks the lateral movement to go with a Tiger small so I reckon he misses out,” he said.
“It’s all about balance.”
Eade is tipping an Adelaide and GWS Grand Final in what would be the first premiership decider to not feature a Victorian team since Sydney and West Coast played-off in 2006.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/21/giants-to-upset-tiger-applecart-says-eade/
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Will the Tigers tag Giant Nathan Wilson?
September 21, 2017
Tom Morris
FOX SPORTS
But perhaps the real key to GWS’ chances at the MCG on Saturday rest on Nathan Wilson’s tattooed shoulders.
These are the facts:
Wilson averages just 17.7 disposals per game this year. He’s hardly prolific and nor is he overly defensively-minded.
But the devil is in the detail. From these 17.7 possessions, the 24-year-old Western Australian-product gains more metres than any other player in the AFL.
His 65-metre pinpoint stab kicks travel from A to B like a concord jet. Their difficulty is high but so is the reward when they come off as planned. According to Champion Data, Wilson attempts kicks that are laced with risk more often than any other Giant.
And now it’s Richmond’s problem to counter.
“I think they have to tag this man,” dual North Melbourne premiership player David King told Fox Footy’s On The Couch.
“Wilson’s kicking is next level from the rest of the competition. He’s playing with that genuine football arrogance that we love. He wants contact and wants ball in his hand.
“This is a guy that wants to hit the scoreboard.”
But as damaging as Wilson is, Richmond will not put a hard tag on him. Indeed, they are unlikely to tag any Giant this Saturday.
Consider the way the Tigers tried to stop Zach Tuohy - a similar player to Wilson - in the qualifying final.
Sam Butler spent 34 minutes on Touhy, Daniel Rioli 30 minutes, Jason Castagna 17 minutes, Kane Lambert 15 minutes, Jacob Townsend 10 minutes and Josh Caddy seven minutes.
Tuohy may have had 27 disposals but they came at an efficiency of just 63 per cent. Richmond prefered the team defence model rather than a one-on-one direct forward tag. Tuohy rarely had time with the ball and like many of his teammates, struggled to find options further afield.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2017-the-lesserknown-gws-giant-that-could-end-richmonds-premiership-hopes/news-story/17d418ed63307202aabe8cdbc55dcbb7
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It's about this time of every match day week you start to question whether we will win and this process of quiet confidence and then despair thinking we cannot cycles through your mind 1000 times a day.
It's not losing that kills you. It's the hope!! Heard this the other week, a great quote
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Gez there is not alot of love for us this week from so called football experts.It's like we played poorly against cats.They said the same before that game. :gotigers :gotigers
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Gez there is not alot of love for us this week from so called football experts.It's like we played poorly against cats.They said the same before that game. :gotigers :gotigers
The more we're doubted the better IMO.
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Actually agree with King - definitely need to minimise Wilson's influence.....
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I think we need to expose Johnson and Lids who aren't 100% fit and didn't even train much.Make them accountable to defend to.
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Actually agree with King - definitely need to minimise Wilson's influence.....
Totally agree need to win the middle to,but it seems like were only a team of hard workers they have to much class this week.Loving how no mention of Dusty and co this week.
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Rain, thunderstorm for AFL Tigers, GWS clash
Kathryn Bermingham and Christine McGinn
The Advertiser
September 21, 2017 1:53pm
Rain could be Richmond’s ticket into the AFL Grand Final on Saturday.
Rain and thunderstorms are expected to hit the MCG from 3pm into the evening on Saturday.
Winds will reach between 40km/h to 60km/h before they shift and ease to the west.
Richmond Football Club has proven its strength in the wet this year, while Greater Western Sydney fans could be in for a nailbiter as the team is highly skilful in drier conditions.
Senior forecaster Michael Efron said it was going to be very windy on Saturday in Victoria especially in Melbourne and Bayside suburbs.
“There will be a few spots of rain during the morning but they will tend to be focused to the afternoon and into the evening,” he said.
“The game could be affected by that activity. If the thunderstorms do cross it could be really wet.
“Strong winds could make it a bit swirly, so kicking goals could be a bit hard.”
Mr Efron said there was a 20 per cent chance of a thunderstorm over the ‘G on Saturday.
http://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/afl-finals-forecast-sun-for-crows-and-cats-clash-but-rain-thunderstorm-for-tigers-gws/news-story/f5491452a5713dbe8e44e9867829d0ba
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Have it on good authority that Dimma saw this coming and that's the real reason he changed the gameplan. :clapping
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Have it on good authority that Dimma saw this coming and that's the real reason he changed the gameplan. :clapping
The mastercoach :bow
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Caracalla has links to the Bureau of Meteorology.... :shh
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Caracalla has links to the Bureau of Meteorology.... :shh
Knew it wouldn't take long for someone to attribute Dimma's masterstroke to Caracalla!
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Caracalla has links to the Bureau of Meteorology.... :shh
Knew it wouldn't take long for someone to attribute Dimma's masterstroke to Caracalla!
Just recognised the carrot and didn't want to let you down... :shh
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Caracalla has links to the Bureau of Meteorology.... :shh
Knew it wouldn't take long for someone to correctly point out Dimma's masterstroke was actually Caracella's!
e.f.a
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Caracalla has links to the Bureau of Meteorology.... :shh
Knew it wouldn't take long for someone to attribute Dimma's masterstroke to Caracalla!
Just recognised the carrot and didn't want to let you down... :shh
You're a gem
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Richmond’s midfield aces throw up giant conundrum
The Australian
22 September 2017
They do not boast the international fame of Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson, but the Richmond midfield combination of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin have forced rivals on the back foot all year.
So much so that the Greater Western Sydney’s coaching hierarchy are the latest to ponder how best to approach the dynamic duo in tomorrow’s preliminary final against the Tigers at the MCG.
Giants assistant coach Lenny Hayes yesterday said Cotchin, the Richmond captain, was as pivotal in the Tigers’ qualifying final thrashing of Geelong as Martin, the Brownlow Medal favourite.
“They have some pretty good players. When you look at that first final, I thought Trent Cotchin was just as important as Dustin Martin in that game,” Hayes said.
“They are probably the two we have looked at the closest, but you also throw in some of their half-forwards who come up the ground, they go pretty well as well.
“Martin has had an outstanding year. Is he tag-able? I am not too sure. We still have a little bit to decide there but they are the two we have looked at the closest.”
Martin is a dominant favourite to win the Brownlow Medal and has already claimed the AFL Coaches Association and Players Association honours this season.
Barring anything untoward, the 26-year-old will pass 700 disposals for the season tomorrow.
He also sits second with 32 goals on the Tigers’ goalkicking list behind Jack Riewoldt.
Cotchin has gathered the third most possessions for the Tigers this year, just one disposal behind Shaun Grigg, and has also booted 17 goals when edging forward.
When analysing the match earlier this week, Melbourne coach Simon Goodwin pondered whether it might be better to attempt to stymie the influence of the Tigers skipper.
Former Richmond coach Terry Wallace made the same argument a month ago as the Tigers consolidated a spot in the top four.
“If I was coaching against the Tigers, I would go after Cotchin every single time, not Martin,” Wallace said.
“I think Martin is a lot more difficult with his dynamics to actually be able to really cut him out, where Cotchin his whole career, right back to the under-18s, it’s been one little weakness there, that you can actually lock him away.
“He’s had a great year, that’s why you go after him. Cotchin is the one you’ve got to go after.”
Both Richmond and the Giants opted against making any changes from the sides that won their most recent finals.
The Tigers have named Shaun Hampson, Shai Bolton and Corey Ellis, who are all involved in Richmond’s VFL grand final against Port Melbourne on Sunday, as emergencies.
Giants veteran Steve Johnson, who booted six goals in the semi-final victory over West Coast, has been named after a week of intrigue surrounding his fitness. Devon Smith, Sam Reid and Harry Perryman have been listed as emergencies for the GWS.
Richmond forward Shane Edwards, who admitted to dreaming about playing in a grand final, said the Tigers have tried to embrace the occasion as they seek to make their first decider since 1982.
“We’ve been a bit guilty of underplaying the game in (previous) years, shying away from what it’s going to be like and trying to think it’s another game, but it isn’t,” Edwards said.
“There’s a lot more on the line and we took that mindset into the last game we played and it seemed to go all right.
“(We’re) embracing the moment and it’s a great time to be playing footy.”
Giants coach Leon Cameron said this week that regardless of the respective strengths both sides have at either end of the ground, the team that gets the better of the midfield battle will prevail.
Hayes, who played against both Martin and Cotchin during a decorated career with St Kilda, believes the Giants have the quality to cope with Richmond’s renowned pressure.
“I think our contested ball gets probably overshadowed by what everyone sees with our outside run but if you look at the entirety of the year, we have one of the best contested ball differentials in the comp,” he told RSN Breakfast.
“We feel like if we can match them in that area, we are going to have to pressure them as well, we are hoping to match them inside and then over the length of the game get them on the outside.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-finals-midfield-aces-throw-up-giant-conundrum/news-story/7fee2d658f3ad4a4244dec91f7c19619
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Let GWS concentrate on Martin and Cotchin
And we will then applaud Lambert , Prestia, Grigg and Edwards😉🐯
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There a bit cocky no doubt about it players coaches and all.
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Tag Cotchin not Martin says Dees coach
By Justin Talent
SEN
22 September 2017
Simon Goodwin says that GWS should aim to tag Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin out of tomorrow’s preliminary final at the MCG instead of fellow star Dustin Martin.
The Melbourne coach says that Cotchin’s more consistent position in the middle of the ground makes the process of nullifying his impact as a Tigers leader and key distributor of the ball much easier than restricting this year’s Brownlow Medal favourite.
“It’s a really tough one, but I am probably going after Cotchin in terms of the midfield,” Goodwin told SEN Breakfast.
“If you can actually say that we have more chance of getting one, go after the one, and that would be Cotchin.
“He’s a leader. He’s more set in the position that he plays. You have actually got a target that you know you may potentially be able to get.
“Dustin is going to hover between midfield and forward and clearly you are going to have a matchup for him when going forward. In the midfield, you’re looking at ‘can we expose him the other way?’ and then really look at the influence of the game, but Cotchin is in the middle.
“You know you have one there. Go after the one you know is going to be there.”
Goodwin expects that Martin’s match-up when playing forward will be Aidan Corr, after his job in restricting West Coast spearhead Josh Kennedy to only a single goal in the Giants’ big semi-final win over West Coast.
“I think he played a very strong game last week on Josh Kennedy and I think he has got the attributes of size and strength to go with Dustin,” he said.
The Demons coach also touched on how he would target star Richmond defender Alex Rance, saying he would position his forwards deeper in attack to stop Rance’s impact up the ground.
“What he can do up the ground is that he can defend about three or four people,” said Goodwin.
“He is so good at coming off his man and he is so good at reading play. If you get him deeper, you just want to get him on a one-on-one and compete.
"When he can come off and impact and get a run at the ball, he’s an incredible player. He’s one of the best defenders in the competition."
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/21/tag-cotchin-not-martin-says-dees-coach/
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"When he can come off and impact and get a run at the ball, he’s an incredible player. He’s one of the best defenders in the competition."
Hmmmmm one of the best, oh well at least he rates him higher than Claw
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They do not boast the international fame of Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson,
Who?
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They used to play for the Perth Scorchers....
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Tiger army ready to roar
Peter Rolfe, Sophie Smith and Lauren Wood
Herald-Sun
23 September 2017
THE Tiger army is ready to roar, with long-suffering Richmond fans to fill the MCG for tonight’s do-or-die preliminary final against Greater Western Sydney.
A yellow and black chorus of Richmond fans will bring the stadium to life as a sold-out crowd cheers the Tigers towards their first Grand Final since 1982 and a shot at their first flag in 37 years.
A crowd of more than 95,000 is expected and the overwhelming majority will be wearing Richmond colours at the 4.45pm opening bounce.
Richmond legend Dale Weightman, who played in the club’s last premiership in 1980, said the team had been “training as though they were going to play’’ and were fired up to make history.
“We’ve got a hurdle to come and GWS are a formidable side ... but we’re ready to go,’’ Weightman said.
He said a vibe, not felt in years, had settled over Tigerland.
“They’re a good bunch of loyal supporters, the Tigers, and when they’re up and running they’re good to be around.’’
One of the most loyal supporters, Sam, 40, from Hawthorn, was the first in line at the MCG yesterday, some 28 hours before tonight’s preliminary final was due to start.
The Tigers had given him the “best year of his life”, he said, and if they were to win their first Grand Final berth in 35 years, he wanted the best seat in the house.
“The darkest era in Richmond’s history has been my lifetime,” he said.
“This is not an opportunity that I want to waste.”
He’d brought a camp chair and a bag of food along with him but said he didn’t anticipate getting through last night would be all that bad, having endured the long wait for Grand Final seats over the past 25 years.
“If you’ve got a seat, you’ll be able to sleep.”
Thousands of fans descended on Punt Rd Oval yesterday for an open training session, some cheering as though they were at the preliminary already.
“We couldn’t get tickets (to the game) so we thought we’d come down,” said mum Laurice Desilva.
“Everyone just seems happy and excited. I love the atmosphere. I’ve been waiting so long for them to get into the finals, so it’s very emotional.”
Players going through final paces were just as upbeat, with Alex Rance joking as he autographed shiny footballs.
“I hope these are good to kick because they’re shocking to sign,” Rance said.
Many fans had taken the day off work or school to make the most of the club’s current position.
“Everyone talks about it — the long-suffering Tigers fans — so it’s a surreal feeling to be deep in September,” supporter and sports commentator David McKenzie said.
Francis Bourke, who won five flags in 300 games for the Tigers and was the last man to coach Richmond in a Grand Final, said he had his fingers crossed. “I’m really thrilled they have progressed as far as they have.”
Tigers great Matthew Richardson said fans who had stuck with the club through thick and thin “deserve a little bit of success’’ and the team was in prime position.
“They’ve played good footy all year, they’ve played consistent footy, it’s a good brand of footy to watch and I think that’s why the fans are enjoying it,’’ Richardson said.
He said the thought of premiership celebrations in Richmond was alluring.
“We’ll worry about the prelim first but I guess if that was to happen then I’m sure they would enjoy it,’’ he said.
Richmond cheer squad president Gerard Egan said he was nervously excited about the prospect of finally seeing his team qualify for a Grand Final.
“I would actually like to know how far away they hear the roar at the final siren if we win,’’ he said.
Men, women and children of all ages were three-deep in some places along the sideline, with motorists in passing cars tooting and shouting, ‘Go the Tigers’ as they drove past.
One boy sported a ‘Dustin Martin haircut’ as kids kicked footballs and loyal supporters became emotional talking about their club’s finals run.
Laurite Desilva, from Cranbourne, let her son skip school to see the training and hopefully get his footy signed.
“We couldn’t get tickets so we thought we’d come down,” Ms Desilva said.
“There’s a lot of people but I was expecting that. Everyone just seems happy and excited. It’s great. I love the atmosphere.
“I’ve been waiting so long for them to get into the finals so it’s very emotional for my family.”
Sports commentator David McKenzie attended with his family, all showing support.
“It’s been 35 years since we’ve made a final and 37 years since we’ve won one,” Mr McKenzie said.
“Everyone talks about it — the long-suffering Tigers fans — so it’s a surreal feeling to be deep in September.
“When you’ve grown up with it and it’s in your veins — you’ve got to embrace it.”
Bek Demicoli said she was surprised by the season the Tigers have had.
“I didn’t think we’d make it this far. We just want to support them.”
Triple premiership Brisbane Lions legend Jonathan Brown said the Tigers’ premiership threat was genuine and they “can definitely win it’’.
Fans have been urged to arrive earlier than usual and take public transport to tonight’s match, with extensive security procedures in place.
MCC spokesman Shane Brown said fans arriving close to game time risked missing the teams run onto the ground, as well as the first bounce.
Car parking will be restricted to about half normal capacity at Yarra Park.
Public and AFL Reserve gates open at 2.30pm, the MCC Reserve at 1.30pm
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond/richmonds-final-training-session-before-mcg-showdown-with-gws-attracts-thousands-of-fans/news-story/5285c59cedef9168bdf1127acbc35cf3
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Interesting how the weather affects today's game. It's going to be a warm 29 degrees, windy and with a chance of showers/thunderstorms.
Saturday 23 September
Summary
Min 16
Max 29
Windy. Late change.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 1 mm
Chance of any rain: 60%
Melbourne area
Partly cloudy. Medium (60%) chance of showers in the afternoon and evening. The chance of a thunderstorm in the afternoon and evening. Winds northerly 20 to 30 km/h, increasing to 30 to 40 km/h during the morning, shifting cool and gusty westerly 40 to 50 km/h in the afternoon then easing in the evening.
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Eat em alive.
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Eat em alive.
:clapping x2
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:gotigers need a good solid start and bring the crowd with us to.
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OH
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Melbourne temperature, weather: Richmond v GWS forecast
BRIANNA TRAVERS
Herald-Sun
23 September 2017
IT’S currently looking like perfect footy weather, but the sun might not be out by the time the Tigers get onto the MCG. Here’s what to expect and how the conditions could affect the game.
SPRING is officially here.
Melbourne can expect a top of 29C around 3pm today, 12C above the average September temperature.
At 9.30am, Melbourne was already cooking at a warm 23C.
Footy fans however can expect “blustery” conditions for this afternoon’s preliminary final between Richmond and the Giants.
“We’re forecasting northerly winds to increase throughout the afternoon ahead of a squally north westerly wind change between 3pm and 5pm,” Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Rod Dickson.
”There’s a slight chance of a shower and thunderstorm during the afternoon, however there won’t be much rainfall because it’s very dry.
“The weather will drop sharply once the change comes in ... they’ll be pretty blustery conditions.
“We’re expected squally winds, with gusts of up to 100km/h possible.”
The SES has warned Victorians to be prepared for storm conditions.
http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-weather-september-heat-shock-but-change-coming/news-story/7e248860f1f8310cbd9ac4ca829e4e6b
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Severe winds, potential thunderstorms to strike Melbourne during Tigers versus GWS final
Joe Hinchliffe
The Age
September 23 2017
Football fans are being warned to expect strong winds and potential thunderstorms ahead of Saturday afternoon's sold-out preliminary final at the MCG after a day when the mercury will hit 29 degrees.
Melbourne residents of high-rise apartments have been advised to bring in objects from balconies after a severe weather warning was issued for much of the state on Saturday.
Bureau of Meteorology duty forecaster Stuart Coombs said gusts of up to 100km/h were possible as strong northerly winds build throughout the day.
The winds are likely to hit hardest in elevated areas of the CBD, as well as central Victoria, and areas on Melbourne's outskirts such as King Lake and the Dandenong Ranges.
More than 90,000 Richmond fans are expected to fill the MCG to see the Tigers play Greater Western Sydney for the chance to play the Adelaide Crows in the AFL grand final from 4.45pm on Saturday afternoon.
The BoM forecaster said the unstable atmospheric conditions would bring with it the chance of thunderstorms, with the risk highest between 2pm and 7pm.
Mr Coombs said the hot air coming in from central Australia could raise temperatures to 29 degrees on Saturday, before a blustery south-west change came through between 4pm and 6pm in the afternoon.
As the winds pick up, there will be a cool change before the game, dropping the temperature to mid-teens just as crowds descend on the 'G.
"Both the northerly and south-westerly are of some concern and both will have wind gusts which could produce damage," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/severe-winds-potential-thunderstorms-to-strike-melbourne-during-tigers-versus-gws-final-20170922-gynb0f.html
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The key issues ahead of Tigers v Giants
afl.com.au
23 September 2017
GREATER Western Sydney will be aiming to notch its second win in just 12 games at the MCG when it plays a rampant Richmond in Saturday's preliminary final.
The Tigers have all the momentum after a 51-point qualifying final win over Geelong, and will have an army of 95,000 supporters hoping to cheer them into the club's first Grand Final since 1982.
Dustin Martin won't be fussed by the hype, and skipper Trent Cotchin can be relied upon for a big performance given his form this season. He has been brilliant at setting the tone and attacking the contest. Alex Rance can be expected to hold the defence together. For the rest of the Tigers, it is about applying enough pressure to force turnovers and then score.
It's a formula that works in finals much better than the system Greater Western Sydney adopts, which relies on ball movement and outside running.
It's always more difficult to build than break down opponents when it comes to performing under pressure, which is why the Tigers should prevail.
AFL.com.au has taken a look at five key issues leading into Saturday's clash.
1. Richmond must bring the pressure
Against Geelong two weeks ago in the qualifying final, the Tigers recorded their highest tackle count for the season (92). Replicating that sort of pressure is never easy, but Richmond will have to hit Greater Western Sydney with the same level of intensity as it did against the Cats to progress. It knows such pressure works, with its round 18 comeback win against the Giants built on the back of 23 second-quarter tackles, which stifled Greater Western Sydney's ball movement.
2. Can the Tigers kick straight?
It has been feast or famine in front of goal for the Tigers this season, having kicked more goals than behinds just seven times this season. Kicking straight was an issue in the qualifying final, and it kept the Cats in the game for longer than they deserved. The Tigers can't allow goalkicking to be a problem in the preliminary final, as inaccuracy will raise the pressure and give the Giants a sniff. The Tigers must take their chances.
3. Will Stevie J back up after six goals in the semi-final?
The Giants won't be expecting a bag from Steve Johnson, but they will hope for a contribution. His experience in the MCG furnace will be useful, as he will be able to assist his teammates to prepare for the game and adapt to the atmosphere once the contest is underway. A couple of opportunistic goals from Johnson is a realistic objective, but the number of goals he kicks doesn't matter as much as a preparedness to do what is best for the team.
4. Stephen Coniglio is vital for the Giants
After Richmond defeated Greater Western Sydney in round 18, coach Leon Cameron identified contested ball and pressure as the two components missing from the Giants. The next week, Coniglio returned from an ankle injury and the Giants began to find those elements. In three of the six games since they played Richmond, Coniglio has led the team for contested possessions or tackles. He sets the tone, and will relish the chance to stop Martin.
5. Is it worth trying a left-field move to stop Rance?
The Giants' chances evaporate if Rance controls the Tigers back half. Harrison Himmelberg seems a logical choice to play as a defensive forward, but the Giants could spring a surprise and throw Adam Tomlinson the big challenge, as he does not have a natural match-up inside the forward 50. It would be a bold move but it could work, leaving Phil Davis and Aidan Corr as the only tall Giants in defence.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-23/the-key-issues-ahead-of-tigers-v-giants
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NO LATE CHANGES
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Richmond: Shane Edwards, Jack Graham, Nathan Broad, Jason Castagna
Greater Western Sydney: Tom Scully, Tim Taranto, Nathan Wilson, Matt de Boer
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-23/final-teams-richmond-v-greater-western-sydney
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKY3tIhUMAALfbV.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKY3tIqV4AUU3BR.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Potts40/status/911477245130055681
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To win we need that game focus, intensity, pressure, tackling ferocity, win hard ball, run hard in numbers 4 each other, and nail our shots on the scoreboard.
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Cotch (free) long. Dusty crumbs to Lambert = goal :gotigers
Rich 6
GWS 0
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Gaints player freezes on the wing. Dusty again. Caddy marks in the pocket. Goal :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
GWS 0.0-0
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Good pressure. HTB. Dusty from 55 = misses.
Rich 13
GWS 0
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Grr! Can't allow that easy coast to coast transition.
13 - 6
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Surging forward is fine but we've got to be tighter defensively so we don't get caught with an open Giants forward line.
13 - 12
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AHHHHH. SHould have kicked that Edwards.
14 - 13
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:banghead
We're not stopping their run because they are winning the 50/50 contests.
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Cotch weaves past 3 Giants but snap bounces the wrong way.
19 - 15
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You can't fumble :banghead
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So you hold a player without the ball and then land on his back? ::).
15 - 21
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Free to prestia in the middle. Long and Rioli 45m out is pushed. Goal :gotigers
Boy, did we need that one!
3.3-21 a piece.
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Fumble each way. We get it and it's long to Dusty 35 out. He passes to Caddy 15m out. Over the top to Georgie= goal :gotigers
Rich 4.3-27
GWS 3.3-21
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What dumb stupid fumbling miss simple targets slop in the last 45 secs by us :banghead. Almost costed us a goal :banghead.
Lucky Patton returned the favour playing on with 2 secs to go rather than taking the set shot. Very VERY lucky.
Quarter time
Richmond 4.3-27
GWS 3.3-21
Goals: Castagna, Lambert, Rioli, Caddy.
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how are we leading? stuff me we will need to play alot better to break even.
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how are we leading? stuff me we will need to play alot better to break even.
Agreed
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Good running from HB. Jack clever kick to Georgie 20m out. Misses around the body :huh3 :scream.
Drop punt directly in front, Georgie!
28 - 21
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how are we leading? stuff me we will need to play alot better to break even.
x2
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Georgie marks again 40m out. Across the face and it's a throw-in. Giants then clear.
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Terrible defending defensive side of that stoppage. Cotch had no one to hand it back to even if he made the clean handball.
28 - 27
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Some of our decision making is just bizarre as much as it is dumb :huh3.
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You're very lucky there Houli. That pass to Floss had to hit.
28 a piece.
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Good transition from defence. Lambert hits up Graham 40 out on a wide angle. OOTF.
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Haven't seen it, but radio saying cotch in trouble for knocking Shiel out ?
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They are killing us once they rebound out of our forward line :banghead. Just low percentage stuff by us not going for the stoppage and keeping it in there :banghead
28 - 34
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Haven't seen it, but radio saying cotch in trouble for knocking Shiel out ?
Cotch got Shiel in the shoulder.
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Dusty saved the day on the wing. Butler to Townsend 45 out. Misses left.
Rich 4.5-29
GWS 5.6-36
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Dusty 3 don't argues. Swings around and floats it to Prestia 35 out. Doesn't make the distance and Davis marks uncontested on the line :banghead.
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Lack of pressure and intensity to many passengers out there need to lift got to hit the score board kick straight.
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Brilliant Rioli. 1-2 with Prestia and runs to 45 and nails it :gotigers
Rich 5.5-35
GWs 5/6-36
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Downfield free to us (Rioli held after disposal). Dusty from 35 and misses :P.
Scores level. 5.6-36 a piece.
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Shiel off with "delayed concussion".
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Caddy high to the square and it's rushed.
We're back in front.
37 - 36
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Kick straight tigers !.
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Half-time
Richmond 4.3 5.7-37
GWS 3.3 5.6-36
Goals: Rioli 2, Caddy, Castagna, Lambert
Still trying to work out how we are in front on the scoreboard :huh3.
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gws are WAAYY cleaner by foot and hand.
our finishing is shocking.
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How are we ahead?
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Lack of pressure and intensity to many passengers out there need to lift got to hit the score board kick straight.
Yep. Too many passengers in the first half. Dusty, Rioli and Rance keeping us in it.
Add too much dumb footy and fumbling by the usual suspects as well.
Our defensive set-up behind the ball when the ball goes inside F50 has been ordinary. We haven't been able to hold it in there. Too much trying to keep the ball alive even when it's a very low percentage option. The Giants have killed us on the HB rebound.
Finally, our set shot goalkicking has been crap again :banghead.
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Good thing that we are getting beaten in the stats but ahead on the board as it means if we fix it up we've got this. Reckon the biggest thing is allowing GWS to run it out of our forward line too easy. Need to get that forward pressure happening.
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How are we ahead?
good question
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Lack of pressure and intensity to many passengers out there need to lift got to hit the score board kick straight.
Yep. Too many passengers in the first half. Dusty, Rioli and Rance keeping us in it.
Add too much dumb footy and fumbling by the usual suspects as well.
Our defensive set-up behind the ball when the ball goes inside F50 has been ordinary. We haven't been able to hold it in there. Too much trying to keep the ball alive even when it's a very low percentage option. The Giants have killed us on the HB rebound.
Finally, our set shot goalkicking has been crap again :banghead.
Good summary.
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And yet we could (should) have had about 3 more that Quarter. Georgie competing hard but ffs can he drill one please?
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That's holding the ball!
Dusty had a shot anyway and misses.
38 - 36
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Dusty kicking at goal has gone use to drill them.
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Rioli snap is a goal :gotigers
Rich 6.8-44
GWS 5.7-37
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How is that not holding the ball on Himmelberg? ::)
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I hope we settle and use the crowd to advantage.We need everybody this half to lift.
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Rioli free and goes long. No one could get a boot to it. Rushed.
45 - 38
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Almost stuffed it but a chain of hands starting from wing eventually gets to Townsend = goal :gotigers
Rich 7.9-51
GWS 5.8-38
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What was that kick, Butler? :scream
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Butler's turnover at HF followed by us allowing their F50 kick to go over the back of the pack gifts the Giants a goal :banghead.
51 - 45
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Grimes marks the quick defensive Giant kick 45m out. Misses.
52 - 45
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Rioli No.4 :gotigers
Rich 8.10-58
GWS 6.9-45
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You've got kill the ball there on the wing :banghead. Thankfully they kicked it OOTF.
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:gobdrop :gotigers lets cut the silly mistakes play smart footy.
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Bulldust that was in the back!
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Of course it wasn't in the back to us (Dusty) ::)
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Edwards to MAcca who misses on the run from 55.
59 - 45
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Play smart footy tigers cut out mistakes. :gotigers
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Not sure if we knew what we were actually doing there. Jack eventually finds Lambert 45 out, who chips to Edwards 35 out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 9.11-65
GWS 6.9-45
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Come on kick straight were going keep them in itm
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Pressure tigers intensity no silly football last couple minutes of qtr.
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Grigg high to the square and Dusty is paid the mark. On an acute angle. Goal :gotigers
Rich 10.11-71
GWS 6.9-45
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Too easy, Tiges. They should never have got out of HB. :banghead
Shanked it lol.
71 - 46
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That was an illegal hold on Georgie :banghead
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Rance saving mark. We transition well. Caddy goes long and Dusty is paid the free. GoAL! :gotigers
Rich 11.11-77
GWS 6.10-46
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3/4 time
Richmond 4.3 5.7 11.11-77
GWS 3.3 5.6 6.10-46
Goals: Rioli 4, Martin 2, Caddy, Lambert, Castagna, Townsend, Edwards.
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YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Still making dumb decisions at times but worked harder as a team that qtr and it paid off.
This could end up Rioli's break out game with 4 goals.
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DUSTY! :gotigers
Rich 12.11-83
GWS 6.10-46
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C'mon Tiges, don't give them easy ones :banghead.
83 - 55
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Georgie snap is OOTF :P.
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Cut out the dumb overuse stuff Tiges :banghead.
Point to Caddy.
84 - 55
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:banghead
84 - 61
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Nank pushed in the back in the ruck = no free.
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Come on tigers smart footy.
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Rioli clever on the wing. To Lambert who goes long. Dusty gathers on the boundary. Lovely weighted kick to Jack's advantage who takes the contested mark 30 out.
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! :gotigers
Needed that steadier.
Rich 13.12-90
GWS 9.7-61
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Butler :gotigers
Rich 14.12-96
GWS 9.7-61
What was that chip nothing kick, Brandon btw? :huh3
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Some Benny hill stuff tonight.
Georgie handballs over the goal line to Butler :P.
97 - 61
3:20 to go.
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Butler :gotigers
Rich 15.12-102
GWS 9.7-61
We're in the Granny :gotigers
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Ellis hurt his shoulder trying to take on the tackler rather than kicking it. Hopefully not serious.
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10 secs to go.
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YOU BLOODY BEAUTY :gotigers
ONE TO GO! :gotigers
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WHo was the idiot playing the Giants theme song :lol.
That's better ..... YELLOW AND BLACK!
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Final Score
Richmond 4.3 5.7 11.11 15.13-103
GWS 3.3 5.6 6.10 9.13-67
Goals: Rioli 4, Martin 3, Butler 2, Castagna, Caddy, Lambert, Townsend, Edwards, Riewoldt.
:gotigers :woohoo :congrats :wavetowel :phew :invasion
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(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/RICHvGWS_MR_FINAL.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/
:gotigers
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The granny is obviously what we all want. But win lose or draw next week, I think we can be proud of the boys and the club. What a turnaround.
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Weird feeling , to be honest I just feel relief .
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Who's BOG ? Rioli cotch and Martin are all there for mine.
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Who's BOG ? Rioli cotch and Martin are all there for mine.
Cotchin
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Holy poo, how awesome was that I don't think the reality has sunk in yet.
3/4 Tigers - Premiership quarter.
Bring on the crows and beat us if you can.
Great job jobs, win or lose next week you're all still heroes to me :bow :thumbsup :gotigers :clapping :cheers :cheers :bow :cheers :clapping :gotigers
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What a great game. Awesome atmosphere. Nerves were shot and I couldn't relax at any stage of the game as it was so intense. I reckon my heart stopped beating a few times during that game.
Anyway I just want to say.............
YOU BLOODY RIPPER! :gotigers :gotigers
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How bloody good !!!
Proud of every single player out there today.
Of course we had a few fumbles and brain fades during the game but gee we held our nerve.
Stevie j had a mare. Probably set our momentum going in the third.
Fingers crossed we dont cop the wrath of the MRP this week.
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All year they said we havent won against a top side,you won't make the 8,you wont make top 4,you wont win a final, and now wait till you meet crows. :gotigers
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(http://i64.tinypic.com/258ui43.jpg)
Get on the plane and stuff off.
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Unsure what has been said about Lids at all but the vision of Lids is heartbreaking. It won't ruin any of the positivity of the result but footy can be awfully cruel sometimes.
Class act Cotchin running up to him straight away from other side of the ground.
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what vision? When he walked into the cattery asking for a trade?
Nice guy but he has 2 yrs to play off in a granny which he just might.
Its tiger time not giants time. Speaking of which whose decision is it to play that pathetic song when giants score a goal? What a disgrace.
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Agree Jacko what idiot at the afl OKd that? Did Cats have a cats signal at Adelaide oval when they kicked a goal? Pathetic IMO.
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what vision? When he walked into the cattery asking for a trade?
Nice guy but he has 2 yrs to play off in a granny which he just might.
Its tiger time not giants time. Speaking of which whose decision is it to play that pathetic song when giants score a goal? What a disgrace.
They also started the Giants' song after the final siren before correctly putting ours on.
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what vision? When he walked into the cattery asking for a trade?
Nice guy but he has 2 yrs to play off in a granny which he just might.
Its tiger time not giants time. Speaking of which whose decision is it to play that pathetic song when giants score a goal? What a disgrace.
They also started the Giants' song after the final siren before correctly putting ours on.
Yeh WTF was going on there
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Il tell you what's going.
The political whores that are the afl led by that tree hugger Gil did everything to get the giants to win and it backfired in his face.
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what vision? When he walked into the cattery asking for a trade?
Nice guy but he has 2 yrs to play off in a granny which he just might.
Its tiger time not giants time. Speaking of which whose decision is it to play that pathetic song when giants score a goal? What a disgrace.
Two faced prick.
I love it.
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(http://i64.tinypic.com/258ui43.jpg)
Get on the plane and stuff off.
$hifty mercenary who has to end his Capitali$m tour early becau$e of unforseen $hell $hock.
Get on the stuffing plane indeed Dollar Boy
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AFLCA Gary Ayres Award: Votes, finals week three
RICHMOND v GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
8 Dustin Martin (Rich)
8 Daniel Rioli (Rich)
7 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
4 Callan Ward (GWS)
2 Alex Rance (Rich)
1 Adam Tomlinson (GWS)
GARY AYRES AWARD LEADERBOARD
17 Dustin Martin (Rich)
15 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
14 Callan Ward (GWS)
11 Brad Crouch (Adel)
10 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel)
10 Josh Kennedy (Syd)
10 Luke Shuey (WC)
9 Charlie Cameron (Adel)
8 Eddie Betts (Adel)
8 Stephen Coniglio (GWS)
8 Mitch Duncan (Geel)
8 Rory Laird (Adel)
8 Jeremy McGovern (WC)
8 Luke Parker (Syd)
8 Daniel Rioli (Rich)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-25/aflca-gary-ayres-award-votes-finals-week-three
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Can't believe Cotchin wasn't voted as best on ground
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Get on the plane and stuff off.
After watching the replay last night for the 4th time it really made me think what a great decision it was to get rid of Lids. The bloke is shot!
I just hope the RFC can see after getting to where we have, that sometimes making the hardest calls of all are sometimes the best for the club.
Does anyone think if Lids didn't decide he had had enough of Dimma and his game plan, we would have moved him on?
Win or lose on Saturday I hope the club goes into the trade period with its head and not its heart because if for example we could get say Jake Lever, we shouldn't not consider giving up someone that maybe has a premiership medal if we consider we maybe have an excess of them on our list. Ie- small forwards, as I'm tipping clubs are going to be screaming out for them after seeing what they can do.
Thoughts??
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I've heard Jake Lever has already agreed in principle to play with Melbourne next year......
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
:thumbsup
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
:thumbsup
I didnt manage to get to any of the grand finals but I don’t think any had a roar quite like what I heard when lambert kicked the first goal of the game. Honestly felt like the ground was shaking.
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Sorry to hear TK. It's a real shame and I hope there's another one for you next year.
I was very fortunate and managed to get to all 3 the finals that year and the PF/GF in 2019. I feel very lucky. Got both GF's through the ballot.
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
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I didnt manage to get to any of the grand finals but I don’t think any had a roar quite like what I heard when lambert kicked the first goal of the game. Honestly felt like the ground was shaking.
Tiger Khosh, Me too, that was the most unbelievable day, will treasure it always
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Sorry to hear TK. It's a real shame and I hope there's another one for you next year.
I was very fortunate and managed to get to all 3 the finals that year and the PF/GF in 2019. I feel very lucky. Got both GF's through the ballot.
I don’t know if I’d be able to cope on grand final day tbh, bad enough watching from let alone being there. How awesome it would be once the game is over and won though.
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
:thumbsup
I didnt manage to get to any of the grand finals but I don’t think any had a roar quite like what I heard when lambert kicked the first goal of the game. Honestly felt like the ground was shaking.
Tiger Khosh, Me too, that was the most unbelievable day, will treasure it always
Same mate will never forget it.
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Sorry to hear TK. It's a real shame and I hope there's another one for you next year.
I was very fortunate and managed to get to all 3 the finals that year and the PF/GF in 2019. I feel very lucky. Got both GF's through the ballot.
I don’t know if I’d be able to cope on grand final day tbh, bad enough watching from let alone being there. How awesome it would be once the game is over and won though.
Just felt like vomiting haha. Reminds me of my wedding and the day my first kid was born via C section. Terrifying!
At quarter time I was still convinced we had no hope.
Half time I was surprised to be basically even.
3qt I thought we had it but was still super nervous.
Final siren I was just crying.
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Four years ago tonight :thumbsup.
A roar like no other & a win we'll never forget (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1440823238318125059
:thumbsup
I didnt manage to get to any of the grand finals but I don’t think any had a roar quite like what I heard when lambert kicked the first goal of the game. Honestly felt like the ground was shaking.
The roar at that game was definitely the loudest I have ever heard in particular in the third quarter.
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Yep Lambert goal exploded. Reckon channel 7 got it wrong that Riolis running goal from 50 was apparently louder than Lambert's but I disagree, Lambert's was enormous.
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The response to Lamberts goal was unbelievable.
Loudest thing I’ve ever heard.
Mind you, the booing when the Cats ran out 2 weeks earlier almost topped it.
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I remember Martin's goals in last minutes of the third and Butler's first goal in the fourth brought enormous roars.
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I remember Martin's goals in last minutes of the third and Butler's first goal in the fourth brought enormous roars.
Martins Goal, was getting a couple of beers saw it onone of the tellys had to put the beers down on a bin and the tears flowed i Knew we had made a Grand final at last!
what a year what a month, so glad we did it before allthe poo going on now, including Covid :lol