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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 23, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
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If Cotchin receives one more fine, it's an automatic one-match ban.
VIDEO of clash: https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/911486516530094081
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Nah
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Nah
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Nah
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If he goes for that footy is stuffed
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nah, it was a split second thing in a contested ball, he was so quick, he got the ball first so Shiel should be fined for making reckless contact to Cotchin's shoulder with his face
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Let's be honest, it'll be looked at. Would be criminal to miss a GF for that though.
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Nup, absolute beat up! Didn't Basil Gimpless try talking it up? Every time there was a hard clash Basil wanted to run a poll about how long the suspension should be ... stuffin dork! :thumbsdown
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It's BS - the Giants player grabbed his shoulder after the incident, not his effing head.
If he was concussed he got it elsewhere.
Enjoy the week you long-suffering people lol
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To escape suspension, Cotchin would need to be cleared of any wrongdoing, with his actions deemed a reasonable attack on the ball.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-23/shiels-day-done-tigers-skipper-could-face-mrp
Leon Cameron just said he doesn't believe there's anything in it as both players were going for the ball. He also admitted Shiels copped a couple of knocks in the first quarter.
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well faaaaark me I might have to change my Avatar ....what a year. If Cotch goes Tex walker should go too coz he clubbed a Geebung player in the jaw with his elbow. No-one even blinked at that ffs.
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Hey may be gone due to stupid rules.
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Cotch will get off. Ellis will get a week though. Short will replace him and be good value
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Watching the replay and reckon he's alright. At the time I thought he was stuffed but ok now I've seen it properly.
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yeah nah
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Has anyone got vision on Ellis incident ? .
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It won't even get looked at, they both ran for the ball and Ellis didn't aim for or brace for contact he went straight for the ball the other player was coming in at 90 degrees to him and was unlucky, neither backed off it was legit 2 players running at ball, no bump attempt, eyes on ball.
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Good to hear.
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well faaaaark me I might have to change my Avatar ....what a year. If Cotch goes Tex walker should go too coz he clubbed a Geebung player in the jaw with his elbow. No-one even blinked at that ffs.
Sloane goes before Walker IMO
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Shiel had a further 5 to 7 touches after that with a direct assist.
What MUST be considered is that right before qtr time Shiel was crunched front on by Astbury just before the Patton handball over the top at qtr time. Shiel didn't play a minute after that.
Therefor medical report shouldn't be considered as no1 can categorically prove the concussion was from Cotchin incident.
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i get the feeling cameron and campo will try get him off, but its whether the afl wantg him off will determine what happens.
The giants will do everything to get him off
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No issue. It's the AFL remember. They won't want their day in the sun ruined
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The coaches' verdict on Cotch? Let him play
afl.com.au
24 September 2017
DAMIEN Hardwick and Leon Cameron think Trent Cotchin will be cleared by the Match Review Panel and lead Richmond into next week's Grand Final, with the rival coaches both describing the Tigers skipper as "a ball player".
Cotchin is almost certain to attract the attention of the MRP for his bump on Dylan Shiel during the first quarter of Saturday's preliminary final at the MCG.
Cotchin bumped Shiel 10 minutes into the opening term as the Giant was bending down to gather the ball. The Richmond captain was also contesting the ball, but went low and caught Shiel on the chin with his shoulder.
Shiel played out the remainder of the first quarter, but suffered a delayed concussion at the first break and was ruled out of the game midway through the second quarter.
Cotchin's situation is complicated by the fact he has already incurred two fines for low-level striking offences this season, which means that even if he escapes with a fine for the Shiel bump he will be ruled out of the Grand Final against Adelaide.
The Richmond skipper was fined $1000 for striking Fremantle midfielder Lachie Neale in round eight, and then $1500 for striking St Kilda’s Jack Lonie in round 16.
Asked after Saturday's game whether he thought Cotchin would be free to play against the Crows, Hardwick said: "I think so, at the end of the day (he's) a ball player."
Hardwick was reluctant to discuss the incident further, saying he hadn't seen a replay and had "no idea" whether Shiel's concussion would complicate matters for Cotchin.
The Tigers coach did say, however, Cotchin faced a nervous wait before the MRP released its findings on Monday.
"(It's) tough for any player I suppose, but the fact of the matter is he hasn't been reported," Hardwick said.
"Was there a free kick? I'm not even too sure, I've got no idea (there wasn't). I can't comment on it, so you can keep asking questions."
Cameron saw a replay of Cotchin's bump during the game and was confident the MRP would clear him.
"I only had a quick look at it for a split second just before quarter-time, but I think both of them were going for the footy," Cameron said.
"He's a ball player, Cotchin, and he's had a terrific year, so I wouldn't think there'll be anything in it."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-23/shiels-day-done-tigers-skipper-could-face-mrp
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Has anyone got vision on Ellis incident ? .
VISION: http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/brandon-ellis-richmond-tigers-mrp-match-review-panel-suspension-lachie-whitfield-gws-giants-preliminary-final/p88bmriauivx1s3w3ls9l84pl#share=true&playerID=06357e7f645644f41bfa45c30a.ht4orng8v8ij1jw491o80olh4&time=0&vid=1ffjvqovkcfgx1cl5195sniluj (http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/brandon-ellis-richmond-tigers-mrp-match-review-panel-suspension-lachie-whitfield-gws-giants-preliminary-final/p88bmriauivx1s3w3ls9l84pl#share=true&playerID=06357e7f645644f41bfa45c30a.ht4orng8v8ij1jw491o80olh4&time=0&vid=1ffjvqovkcfgx1cl5195sniluj)
Article: http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/brandon-ellis-richmond-tigers-mrp-match-review-panel-suspension-lachie-whitfield-gws-giants-preliminary-final/p88bmriauivx1s3w3ls9l84pl (http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/brandon-ellis-richmond-tigers-mrp-match-review-panel-suspension-lachie-whitfield-gws-giants-preliminary-final/p88bmriauivx1s3w3ls9l84pl)
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Shiel had a further 5 to 7 touches after that with a direct assist.
What MUST be considered is that right before qtr time Shiel was crunched front on by Astbury just before the Patton handball over the top at qtr time. Shiel didn't play a minute after that.
Therefor medical report shouldn't be considered as no1 can categorically prove the concussion was from Cotchin incident.
This!
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Exactly!!!
Any danger someone in the media can report this??? The flog arguably dominated the 1st qtr and then Astbury block sent him off for a concussion test yet everyone is talking about the Cotchin incident.
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Shiel had a further 5 to 7 touches after that with a direct assist.
What MUST be considered is that right before qtr time Shiel was crunched front on by Astbury just before the Patton handball over the top at qtr time. Shiel didn't play a minute after that.
Therefor medical report shouldn't be considered as no1 can categorically prove the concussion was from Cotchin incident.
This!
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As you can see the time is just before qtr time. Didn't play another minute. This incident was 25 minutes after the Cotchin incident.
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There were some huge hits out there yesterday from our boys
I also think that big softy Grimes smashed into Himmelburg
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There were some huge hits out there yesterday from our boys
I also think that big softy Grimes smashed into Himmelburg
God he's soft. Dylan 'Butter' Grimes....
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GWS will give Cotch a chop out I think. Pretty sure I read that Cameron said that Shiel copped a number of hits and it wasn't Cotchin's. Watching the replay it doesn't look that bad either. Same with the Ellis one. At the time I thought Ellis was in massive trouble but in the replay I missed it and had to rewind and it wasn't as bad as when I first saw it. Reckon both will be fine.
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Hasn't stopped all the haters getting on their soapbox insisting he gets rubbed out .
Look what was on my facebook this morning.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/the-tragedy-of-trent-cotchin---why-escaping-suspension-is-all-but-impossible-for-the-richmond-skipper-ng-b88608755z
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Nothing
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
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Doesn't it come down to intent, Cotch's hands are clearly on the ball before contact with Shiels is made. Therefore he was competing for the ball which is the cornerstone of the game we love, AFL. His intent was to win the ball and in doing so protect his own body from the impeding collision which is instinctive.
If competing for the ball resulting in injury to an opposition player is a reportable offence then there will be literally hundreds of similar cases every season. If a ruckman lifts his knee in a ruck contest and the opposition ruckmen gets a broken rib is that to be deemed intent, it opens Pandora's box.
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
Oxy we need some of your trademark brutal wit and borderline slander to make us all feel better about this.
Tell us more on your take......
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Hasn't stopped all the haters getting on their soapbox insisting he gets rubbed out .
Look what was on my facebook this morning.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/the-tragedy-of-trent-cotchin---why-escaping-suspension-is-all-but-impossible-for-the-richmond-skipper-ng-b88608755z
time to deliver them a turd pizza Matty.
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
Oxy we need some of your trademark brutal wit and borderline slander to make us all feel better about this.
Tell us more on your take......
In a nutshell, the prick was playing for the free
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
Oxy we need some of your trademark brutal wit and borderline slander to make us all feel better about this.
Tell us more on your take......
In a nutshell, the prick was playing for the free
:clapping
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
Oxy we need some of your trademark brutal wit and borderline slander to make us all feel better about this.
Tell us more on your take......
In a nutshell, the prick was playing for the free
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:clapping :clapping
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Plus the blokes knee bends (pic3) proving he lowered himself into Cotchin's trajectory hit.
Oxy we need some of your trademark brutal wit and borderline slander to make us all feel better about this.
Tell us more on your take......
In a nutshell, the prick was playing for the free
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Cotchin only had eyes for the ball, was more committed than the kid and that's it.
In the old days part of playing the game was to posess the skill to evade hits that are hard.
How can you be reported because the arch of your back brushed a players scone.
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Ox is right, no shoulder contact to head, his back hit him trying to protect the ball, so it should of been a free to cotch for in the back for a start and also for kneeing him and trying to injure our player when he had his head over the ball...prick
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Medical reports will clear Cotch. This isn't the incident that sent Shiel off. MRP care more about the result than the incident.
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Right. It wa the Astbury one.
Sequence coming
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See YA later, bitch
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O'l I can't believe he is butter Grimesy? yeah I know right? Dropped the Hindenburg like a burning airship
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Again, playing for a free
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They will all get off, as will Sloane and Walker.
It's grand final MF's. AFL wants the cream of the crop out there, and they love Richmond. We sell poo for them like it's the apocalypse.
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AFL owe us for what happened with Bachar Houli suspension. We have 2 games in lieu which means we use 1 for Ellis and 1 for Cotchin. All is even and square now.
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If Cotch goes then Sloane and Walker do too
He shouldn't but with MRP lotto who bloody knows
Leigh Matthews said on game day je shouldn't and it would be bad for the game of he did
Ellis will cop a fine for his bump. He should cop a suspension for reverting back to form in the 3rd for pulling out of a contest in the 3rd
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has anyone bumped someone and got away with nothing, not even a fine? is there a precedent?
Facts are you dont know if it was cotch's bump that hurt him or am i missing something here?
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If it was a home and away game cotch would be gone. They may show sympathy tho I reckon
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To escape suspension, Cotchin would need to be cleared of any wrongdoing, with his actions deemed a reasonable attack on the ball.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-23/shiels-day-done-tigers-skipper-could-face-mrp
Leon Cameron just said he doesn't believe there's anything in it as both players were going for the ball. He also admitted Shiels copped a couple of knocks in the first quarter.
Good sportsmanship from Cameron.
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Evryone just hates adelaide. :snidegrin
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has anyone bumped someone and got away with nothing, not even a fine? is there a precedent?
Facts are you dont know if it was cotch's bump that hurt him or am i missing something here?
They showed a Zac Jones bump on a Melbourne player which looked worse and didn't attract a suspension
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I think the astbury hit on shiel is worse.
The fact that astbury decided to bump and overran the ball looks bad. Sheil also didn't play on after the hit.
As far as Cotchin is concerned I think he attacked the footy and incidental contact was made to the head. Cotchin intent was the ball. Shiel gets 4 possessions after the Cotchin incident. Simply Cotchin gets off.
Astbury might be in trouble though.
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Astbury might be in trouble though.
I did wonder.
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Thought Astbury's was just a shirt front and Shiel got whiplashed.
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The Arseberry bump was what caused the damage imo, when Shiel was off he was pointing to his neck to the trainers, they can argue that he had a few big hits earlier and I think Cameron pointed that out himself.
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has anyone bumped someone and got away with nothing, not even a fine? is there a precedent?
Facts are you dont know if it was cotch's bump that hurt him or am i missing something here?
Apparently there's one in 2014 with Hannabery but I haven't seen it so not too sure the similarities. Just read he got away with it because he was going ball and protected himself so had no other reasonable options
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Five questions for the MRP on Cotchin clash
afl.com.au
24 September 2017
RICHMOND captain Trent Cotchin will dominate the first 48 hours of Grand Final week as the Tigers sweat on his availability to face Adelaide. Cotchin's collision with Greater Western Sydney opponent Dylan Shiel has divided experts, so how will the Match Review Panel make sense of it?
These are the questions that need to be asked when the Panel sits on Monday.
1. Is this rough conduct or forceful front-on contact?
The difference between rough conduct and forceful front-on contact is critical. To be charged with rough conduct the MRP has to find that Cotchin elected to bump. If his actions aren't viewed as a bump then they can rule out rough conduct. To charge a player with forceful front-on contact, however, a player does not need to have elected to bump. They just need to have made forceful front-on contact to a player who has his head over the ball. In this case, Shiel has his head over the ball and forceful front-on contact is the most likely charge.
2. Was Cotchin contesting the ball?
This is the question that should ultimately clear Cotchin. If the MRP decides he was contesting the ball and had no realistic alternative way to contest the ball, he will be cleared of both rough conduct and forceful front-on contact. This is the question the Panel members will spend most of their time debating on Monday. It is easy to say Cotchin was contesting the ball, because he ultimately won it. But there is the possibility the MRP will say he was first clearing a path to win the ball. What he is doing with his arms will be interesting. His right arm is tucked, an action that suggests Shiel is his focus, but his left arm is attempting to collect the ball. That should be enough to give the midfielder the benefit of the doubt.
3. Does Cotchin breach his duty of care to Shiel?
The argument to suspend Cotchin will centre on his duty of care to Shiel, who suffered late onset concussion and was unable to play the last three quarters of the preliminary final. It's a heavy price to pay for sticking your head over the footy. Shiel was first to the ball and, as a courageous ball-winner, he left himself exposed and vulnerable. In that situation the onus is on Cotchin to approach the contest with a reasonable duty of care to his opponent. Cotchin cannons into the contest low and at ferocious speed. In a game of millimeters, with the ball in dispute, that should be considered reasonable.
4. Are there precedents?
The first incident that comes to mind is a collision between Sydney's Dan Hannebery and Essendon's Michael Hurley in 2014. Hannebery is one of the best in the game at protecting himself while winning a disputed ball. In this contest, he turned his body while Hurley came at the ball front on with his head down, coming off second best. Hannebery was cleared because the MRP deemed he had no alternative way to contest the ball.
5. Does Cotchin's bad record impact any penalty?
Cotchin's two fines for low-level offences this season will be irrelevant when the MRP sits on Monday. Given Shiel was concussed, the most lenient grading Cotchin could hope for if charged would be careless conduct with medium impact to the head. That would carry a two-match suspension, down to one with an early guilty plea, before any bad record is factored in. It would take a grading of low impact for Cotchin to be fined, then bringing his record into play and elevating the penalty to a one-match suspension for a third strike.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/five-questions-for-the-mrp-on-cotchin-clash
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Patrick Keane has also tweeted Cotchin in the clear and no other cases.
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RICHMOND captain Trent Cotchin is free to play in the AFL grand final, according to a report.
The star midfielder’s high bump to the head of Giants gun Dylan Shiel was reviewed by the AFL Match Review Panel on Monday morning.
Cotchin collected Shiel across the chin with his shoulder while cannoning into the contest to try and win a disputed ball in the first quarter of Richmond’s preliminary final victory of GWS at the MCG.
Channel 7 reported on Monday morning that Cotchin has been cleared, less than two hours after MRP members began their review of reportable offences across both preliminary finals.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/afl-match-review-panel-announces-trent-cotchin-grand-final-fate/news-story/b75273764d6d81a41dcbfbdaca7f7af0?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF
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On RFC Twitter also.
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Correct decision
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My day just got a whole lot better.
Funnily enough I reckon as good as he's been so far, Cotch might find another gear on Saturday.
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My day just got a whole lot better.
Funnily enough I reckon as good as he's been so far, Cotch might find another gear on Saturday.
agree dougey, has enhanced his rep enormously this finals series, is playing like an enforcer like a Hodge or Voss, setting the tone physically for the rest of the side. Gun!!
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My day just got a whole lot better.
Funnily enough I reckon as good as he's been so far, Cotch might find another gear on Saturday.
agree dougey, has enhanced his rep enormously this finals series, is playing like an enforcer like a Hodge or Voss, setting the tone physically for the rest of the side. Gun!!
What beautiful attack at the ball :bow
Almost took off the blokes head , a limb off and got the ball.
Just a shame scully got him :shh
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They have loosened his leash and he's showing what made him a brownlow medalist :clapping
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Word is he has been holding back a bit lately so he wouldnt get a ban and now is ready to unleash the full beast for the GF
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My day just got a whole lot better.
Funnily enough I reckon as good as he's been so far, Cotch might find another gear on Saturday.
agree dougey, has enhanced his rep enormously this finals series, is playing like an enforcer like a Hodge or Voss, setting the tone physically for the rest of the side. Gun!!
Lethal compared him to Voss just yesterday. :shh
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Heh....it's like the salt mines of Siberia on the BF main board....
....one prominent North flog has even changed his team to Adelaide for the week..... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
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Word is he has been holding back a bit lately so he wouldnt get a ban and now is ready to unleash the full beast for the GF
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Ellis cleared also.
Match Review Panel full statement: preliminary finals
Contact between Richmond’s Trent Cotchin and the GWS Giants’ Dylan Shiel from the first quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. The ball is loose between Cotchin and Shiel. Both players are seeking to win possession and are coming towards each other from right angles. Cotchin moves down low and braces for contact as Shiel approaches to pick up the ball. It was the view of the panel that Cotchin was seeking to win possession as his line of direction was always towards the ball and not his opponent. The panel determined that Cotchin was seeking to contest the ball and therefore contact was not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken.
Contact between Richmond’s Brandon Ellis and the GWS Giants’ Lachie Whitfield from the fourth quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. The ball was loose with both players coming to the contest. Ellis runs through the line of the ball and seeks to win possession as Whitfield approaches the contest. Ellis braces for contact with Whitfield and high contact is made to the Giants’ player. It was the view of the panel that Ellis was contesting the ball and no further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-25/match-review-panel-full-statement-preliminary-finals
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Relieved Cotchin feared for Grand Final dream
afl.com.au
25 September 2017
A RELIEVED Trent Cotchin admits there were times over the weekend when he feared he could miss Richmond's Grand Final through suspension before he was cleared by the Match Review Panel on Monday.
Cotchin was scrutinised for his clash with Greater Western Sydney's Dylan Shiel in the clubs' preliminary final on Saturday, when the pair collided contesting the ball and left Shiel with concussion.
However, the MRP ruled that the Tigers skipper had no case to answer and would be free to play in Saturday's premiership decider against Adelaide after deliberating on Monday morning and then delivering the news to the club.
"I was cross-training at the time," Cotchin said on Monday about when he was told he was given the all clear.
"[I was] obviously relieved in a sense, given there was so much attention about it, but as it always has been, it's about the process and we're looking forward to a big week on the track and hopefully an even bigger Saturday."
Cotchin, who has had a brilliant finals series and gathered 26 disposals against the Giants, said he hadn't spent all of Sunday stressing about the MRP's decision.
"I was pretty relaxed. My intention was always to go for the footy, so I was glad that was the way they ruled it and that's about all that was in my control," he said.
"It was my three-year-old's birthday earlier in the week, but obviously there was a bit of distraction going on so we celebrated that yesterday, and obviously had the VFL Grand Final as well.
"It was out of my control so there was no point worrying about it and sitting there concerning myself with what could be or couldn't be. I just wanted to show up and do what I normally do."
However, he did concede that there were times when the thought of missing the club's first Grand Final since 1982 flashed through his head.
"It comes and goes [that thought], but the reality was the decision was going to be made today, so there was no point worrying about it," he said.
The MRP stated its view that Cotchin was attempting to win the ball, that his line of running was always towards the ball and not Shiel, and that the contact was "not unreasonable".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-25/relieved-cotchin-feared-for-grand-final-dream
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Robbo is a fat flog
"I think it's outrageous" so is your face
Scott too is a loser. Salty salty
Richo saints coach smart man :shh
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Geez Scott is salty.
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What did Scott say?
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What did Scott say?
He intimated that the MRP cheated which is almost as outrageous as Robbo being considered a chief football writer, let alone an orator on TV.
Chris Scott is a bitter, twisted, knob who refuses to let magnaminy get in th way of self interest.
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Shiel was 'cheated' by Cotchin non-citing
Nine Wide World of Sports
By AAP
26 September 2017
Dylan Shiel feels "cheated" by the AFL's judicial system after Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin dodged suspension for a high bump that concussed the Greater Western Sydney star.
Former Richmond assistant coach Mark Williams - whose daughter is dating Shiel - said there was no doubt the Cotchin incident was the cause, adding that the Tiger "100 per cent" deserved to be suspended.
"(Shiel) feels cheated. I've talked to him," Williams told SEN Radio on Monday.
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"Did he get concussed? Yes he did.
"Did he get concussed in the first collision with Cotchin? Yes he did.
"He could not see properly after that. There was an opportunity where he goes for a mark and completely misses it.
"I feel for him, he has been completely cheated by the system."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/25/18/36/shiel-was-cheated-by-cotchin-non-citing
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Shiel was 'cheated' by Cotchin non-citing
Nine Wide World of Sports
By AAP
26 September 2017
Dylan Shiel feels "cheated" by the AFL's judicial system after Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin dodged suspension for a high bump that concussed the Greater Western Sydney star.
Former Richmond assistant coach Mark Williams - whose daughter is dating Shiel - said there was no doubt the Cotchin incident was the cause, adding that the Tiger "100 per cent" deserved to be suspended.
"(Shiel) feels cheated. I've talked to him," Williams told SEN Radio on Monday.
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"Did he get concussed? Yes he did.
"Did he get concussed in the first collision with Cotchin? Yes he did.
"He could not see properly after that. There was an opportunity where he goes for a mark and completely misses it.
"I feel for him, he has been completely cheated by the system."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/25/18/36/shiel-was-cheated-by-cotchin-non-citing
Why was shields allowed to continue on the ground?
So astbury could smash him... Very very dangerous with all the PC rubbish these days, concussion tests and brain related commentary.
Gws doc should be in trouble?
Otherwise sounds like lying and salt :shh
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Thought the same thing. Was almost Stalin like the way they put Shiel back on the field with no regard to his health and safety after he apparently couldn't see
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Life lesson for the little bastard.
For now Tho , stfu with the sour grapes.
stuffn pooftas
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it seems like young dylan needs to grow a pair and realise that the pathetic club he chose a few years, is nothing else but a bunch of pretenders with big ego's
as for his father in law. who is he again?
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Massively underrated game from the skipper...,,threw himself at everything again and set the tone again.... :clapping
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I'm surprised there's hasn't been more angst directed at that south Australian flog Chocco trying to stay relevant in the AFL by sharing his worthless meaningless opinions with the world.
Well I for one am sick of this bloke. Wish he never came to our club. No surprise we are a completely better team without him st the club.
How's this bloke get away with trying to stitch up our captain? :banghead
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Massively underrated game from the skipper...,,threw himself at everything again and set the tone again.... :clapping
What a final series and what a year Dio. Martin clearly took the p all year. But this was better than his 2012 year.
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I'm surprised there's hasn't been more angst directed at that south Australian flog Chocco trying to stay relevant in the AFL by sharing his worthless meaningless opinions with the world.
Well I for one am sick of this bloke. Wish he never came to our club. No surprise we are a completely better team without him st the club.
How's this bloke get away with trying to stitch up our captain? :banghead
This deserves its own thread.
I've thought exactly the same the last couple of week, his comments about how Delidio would be hurting and what was the club doing to support him were pathetic!
Should we also be supporting Tralor who nearly came to the club but opted to go to Collingwood?
What about Andrew Collins who if we didn't trade for Grigg may now be a premiership player (Not lol)
The guy has clearly lost the plot.......
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I'm surprised there's hasn't been more angst directed at that south Australian flog Chocco trying to stay relevant in the AFL by sharing his worthless meaningless opinions with the world.
Well I for one am sick of this bloke. Wish he never came to our club. No surprise we are a completely better team without him st the club.
How's this bloke get away with trying to stitch up our captain? :banghead
This deserves its own thread.
Can bring it up in this one if you want
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=20397.0
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Giant 'happy' for Cotchin despite prelim KO
afl.com.au
7 January 2018
GREATER Western Sydney star Dylan Shiel is "really happy" Richmond captain Trent Cotchin was free to play in last year's Grand Final.
Cotchin was involved in a controversial incident in the Tigers' preliminary final win over the Giants, when the skipper's first-quarter bump left Shiel – who had racked up seven possessions in the opening term – concussed and ruled out of the match at quarter-time.
The Tigers went on to win the game by 36 points to book a date with Adelaide in the decider.
If the Match Review Panel had charged Cotchin with any offense, he would have been suspended because of his bad record, but he was cleared of any wrongdoing and went on to lead Richmond to a famous flag.
Shiel told AFL.com.au the way his season finished was extremely disappointing, but he has no problem with Cotchin or the MRP's decision to not issue a ban.
"To go down early and have to watch my teammates go on and suffer the way they did, it was definitely hard," he said.
"But that’s footy and I don't hold anything against Trent for what happened.
"It probably warranted a free kick but that's it and doesn't matter now, it's done and dusted.
"People have asked me if I wanted to see him suspended and I tell them absolutely not.
"I'm actually really happy that he got to play on; he messaged me the next week to see if I was OK and I really respected that.
"We play a ruthless game and I think every player accepts that when they cross that white line anything can happen.
"I love the game we play and I don't want to see it changed from the exciting game our fans love to watch."
Shiel's view on the hit that took one of the Giants' biggest stars out of the game was at odds with that of his former assistant coach and father of his partner Georgie, Mark Williams, who made his position on the non-suspension well known.
Speaking on SEN radio after the MRP's ruling was announced two days after the match, Williams didn't hold back.
"He (Shiel) feels cheated. I’ve talked to him," he said at the time.
"Did he get concussed? Yes he did. Did he get concussed in the first collision with Cotchin? Yes he did. He could not see properly after that. There was an opportunity where he went for a mark but completely missed it
"He got hit in the head from Cotchin and he didn’t get a free kick. He got hit in the head again by David Astbury, didn’t get a free kick. What is going on?
"I feel for him, he has been completely cheated by the system."
Shiel had no issue with Williams' passionate response, and said his comments had no effect on him whatsoever.
"It's his job to be an outspoken figure in the AFL scene and he's entitled to say what he wants," he said.
"All I know is that Mark has my best interests at heart and he's been a fantastic mentor and father-figure for me.
"He supports me and has my back and support him 100 per cent in what he does."
The GWS gun also hurt his shoulder in the collision with Cotchin, aggravating an issue he'd carried for most of the year and had surgery to fix when the season ended.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-06/giant-happy-for-cotchin-after-prelim-ko
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Not according to the great "Chocco"
Sheil is obviously lying because "Chocco " is great and cant say or do anything wrong :clapping :whistle
Shiel was 'cheated' by Cotchin non-citing
Nine Wide World of Sports
By AAP
26 September 2017
Dylan Shiel feels "cheated" by the AFL's judicial system after Richmond skipper Trent Cotchin dodged suspension for a high bump that concussed the Greater Western Sydney star.
Former Richmond assistant coach Mark Williams - whose daughter is dating Shiel - said there was no doubt the Cotchin incident was the cause, adding that the Tiger "100 per cent" deserved to be suspended.
"(Shiel) feels cheated. I've talked to him," Williams told SEN Radio on Monday.
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"Did he get concussed? Yes he did.
"Did he get concussed in the first collision with Cotchin? Yes he did.
"He could not see properly after that. There was an opportunity where he goes for a mark and completely misses it.
"I feel for him, he has been completely cheated by the system."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/25/18/36/shiel-was-cheated-by-cotchin-non-citing
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Giant 'happy' for Cotchin despite prelim KO
afl.com.au
7 January 2018
Shiel had no issue with Williams' passionate response, and said his comments had no effect on him whatsoever.
"It's his job to be an outspoken figure in the AFL scene and he's entitled to say what he wants," he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-06/giant-happy-for-cotchin-after-prelim-ko
Straight from the horse's mouth, although I don't really agree that Chocco is entitled to say what he wants.