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RECRUITERS who have travelled to America to follow the NAB AFL Academy's high-performance camp say they have gained a valuable insight into what shapes as an exciting 2018 draft pool.
Leading scouts Derek Hine (Collingwood) and Stephen Conole (Brisbane Lions) were among nine recruiters on the 10-day trip, which has seen 29 prospects train in Florida and Los Angeles.
Fremantle, Geelong, Gold Coast, Greater Western Sydney, North Melbourne, Essendon and Richmond also sent recruiters to observe and study the players, who stayed at the IMG Academy in Bradenton before having several sessions at the University of California, Los Angeles.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-23/recruiters-start-to-piece-together-the-puzzle
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Superdraft or superhyped? Early view on 2018
Callum Twomey in Los Angeles
afl.com.au
Jan 24, 2018
The NAB AFL Draft is a long way off, but here are some early thoughts on the shape of the 2018 crop.
How does the group stack up?
Some recruiters last year suggested the 2018 pool will be the next 'Superdraft', but that seems a little premature at this stage. The grass is always greener in recruiting, the next draft always gets more hype than the current one.
Nevertheless, the Academy squad was impressive in its standard of training, and scouts in the US have left enthused about the talent available to clubs. The evenness of the group was evident in the 2km time trial results, with the winner running 6:07 minutes and the last coming in at 7:14 in a very solid set of numbers.
Talk on the 2018 crop has focused on the talls available, particularly Jack Lukosius and Max and Ben King. But the range of sizes and shapes for the top bunch is also appealing. Izak Rankine looks ready to play AFL now such are the half-forward/midfielder's skills and zip, Ian Hill is exciting and adds genuine speed, while Connor Rozee's versatility will appeal.
Sam Walsh is the standout midfielder, but others have also shown talent, including Curtis Taylor, whose kicking and smarts will be worth watching this season. Tarryn Thomas is all silk and a great size at 187cm, Bailey Smith works extremely hard, Jye Caldwell will dig in and find the footy and Chayce Jones has recovered from a serious ankle injury last year and is a trusty type.
It is difficult to compare this one draft to another but looking at last year's group against this one, there appear to be more talls near the top end in 2018 whereas midfielders dominated the early picks last season.
Who are the early contenders for the No.1 pick?
Lukosius' brilliant SANFL debut last year – when he booted four goals in a preliminary final – stamped him as one of the early favourites for the No.1 choice. He has a relaxed nature, but runs smartly in games and is a superb kick, both for goal and around the ground. Recruiters with early picks will be watching him closely all year.
Rankine and Hill are among the most talented, but are smaller-forward types who generally don't get taken with the No.1 pick. Nevertheless, they're among the top tier given their pace and skills and whenever the intensity stood up at training in match drills, Rankine and Hill were at the forefront.
The King brothers will dominate discussion and should be in this conversation as well, while Walsh, perhaps the most complete midfielder in the pool, will also be heavily spoken about as a possible No.1 pick.
He is a captain-in-waiting who starred last year for the Geelong Falcons on their way to the TAC Cup premiership and has most bases covered: he's tough, quick, wins it himself, kicks it well and has footy smarts. He looks a player who won't let you down.
Where will the players come from?
South Australia has gone two years without a top-10 pick, but it's hard to see right now how Lukosius and Rankine won't be in there come November this year. Rozee also did some exciting things as a bottom-ager last season, and they are three of six SA players in the Academy.
The Victorian contingent was again strong, with both Country and Metro having eight players in the group. Among them, Riley Bowman's tall frame but agile movement caught the eye at times during the tour, while midfielder Ned McHenry's bubbly and energetic personality matches his go-go-go style on the field.
There is genuine quality in the division two states, too. Nick Blakey (NSW-ACT) may be the best of the lot and will run out for the Allies alongside Bailey Scott (Queensland), while Jones and Thomas should turn around Tasmania's recent draft fortunes. From the Northern Territory, Matt Green is raw but was exciting at stages on tour with his movement for a taller type.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-24/superdraft-or-superhyped-early-view-on-2018
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Might be a good year to ta- er I mean have a "premiership hangover"..... :shh
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Damian Barrett just said 7 Victorian clubs are chasing Oscar Bradtke, son of former Aussie basketballer Mark Bradtke. He apparently has now chosen footy ahead of basketball despite being offered scholarships to US colleges.
As he hasn't played in a registered footy comp. for the past 3 years, he can go to the AFL club of his choice as a category B rookie. He is also 205cm tall. That's why 7 Victorian clubs are interested.
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Yipes! He'd be what, 19-20 now?
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wow nice n tall but is soldo the example of big basketballer with no footy experience on our list. they are a lot of work.
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Yipes! He'd be what, 19-20 now?
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I hear Max King did a knee yesterday
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I hear Max King did a knee yesterday
Might slip down to us then. :shh
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Callum Twomey's first mock draft of the year. He has Tom McKenzie going to us at pick 18.
1: Jack Lukosius (Carlton)
“He’s starred so far for the South Australian side at the Under 18 Championships, he’s a key forward who just marks it beautifully in the air.
“He’s one of the great kicks I’ve seen come through the draft and has a presence about him.”
2: Sam Walsh (Brisbane)
“Sam Walsh at the Lions would be a great fit. He’s a Lions supporter and a midfielder who just finds the footy.
“He’s probably more of an outside midfielder at the moment.”
3: Max King (St Kilda)
“Then there’s Max King at pick three, he grabs it well for a key position player.”
"He is currently recovering from a torn ACL.
4: Ben King (Gold Coast)
“The twin brother of Max, a key defender."
5: Tarryn Thomas (North Melbourne) (academy)
“This is taking into account where the bids might come. Tarryn’s a star and come through the academy at North and looks like being a really top prospect.”
6: Izak Rankine (Western Bulldogs)
“He’s got the star factor about him, been really good at the championships so far.”
7: Bailey Smith (Essendon)
“He’s a gun midfielder, that’s what the Bombers need, he can come in and play straight away.
“Smith’s been basically the in-form player of the championships so far.”
8: Nick Blakey (Sydney) (academy)
“Matching a bid from the Dockers for the father-son academy prospect.”
9: Bailey Williams (Fremantle)
“The Dockers need a tall forward, Williams can play in the ruck too.”
10: Connor Rozee (Adelaide)
“A local boy for the Crows with a tonne of talent.”
11: Jackson Hately (GWS)
12: Ian Hill (Hawthorn)
13: Isaac Quaynor (Collingwood)
14: Jye Caldwell (Port Adelaide)
15: Riley Collier-Dawkins (Geelong)
16: Curtis Taylor (Adelaide)
17: Chayce Jones (Gold Coast)
18: Tom McKenzie (Richmond)
D.O.B: 23/06/2000
Height: 184 cm
Weight: 76 kg
TAC Cup: Northern Knights
Club: Fitzroy FC / Ivanhoe Grammar
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2018/06/24/603573.jpg)
Watch it here: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/25/twomeys-first-round-afl-mock-draft/
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“We can talk about super drafts in terms of the players early,” Kevin Sheehan told SEN's KB and the Doc.
“I reckon the 20 will be as good as any 20 – put it that way.
“Has it got the depth? We don’t know that yet.”
AUDIO link at: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/25/afl-draft-top-20-as-good-as-any-says-sheehan/
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Just our luck for there to be a super draft while we're winning flags....
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I really liked the look of Number 29 Blanck who played full back for Vic Metro and Flanders for Vic Country as roughies
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Just our luck for there to be a super draft while we're winning flags....
I'll take it
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Just our luck for there to be a super draft while we're winning flags....
I'll take it
Me too. :shh
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I really liked the look of Number 29 Blanck who played full back for Vic Metro and Flanders for Vic Country as roughies
Another smokey to look out for is Tyron Smallwood from WA.
Currently a colts player with Claremont, 179 cms, 77kgs, very quick and is Robert Wiley like in front of goals. If he is anything like his father he'll also be as hard as a cats head.
Has missed a fair chunk of the season with the Colts with a broken jaw, which is to our advantage as he may miss the u18 champs because of it.
Highly rated by the WA u18 coaches.
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Just our luck for there to be a super draft while we're winning flags....
Hear the same crap every year super draft or weake draft etc plenty talent in draft it's how you use your picks simply.
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Currently, we hold picks 18, 36, 72, 90, ...
Indicative draft order after round 14
ROUND ONE
1. Carlton
2. Brisbane
3. St Kilda
4. Gold Coast
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Fremantle
7. Essendon
8. Adelaide
9. Greater Western Sydney
10. Hawthorn
11. North Melbourne
12. Geelong
13. Adelaide (received from Melbourne)
14. Port Adelaide
15. Collingwood
16. Gold Coast (received from West Coast)
17. Sydney
18. Richmond
ROUND TWO
19. Adelaide (received from Carlton)
20. Brisbane
21. Port Adelaide (received from St Kilda)
22. West Coast (received from Gold Coast)
23. Carlton (received from Western Bulldogs)
24. Greater Western Sydney (received from Fremantle)
25. Gold Coast (received from Essendon)
26. Carlton (received from Adelaide)
27. Essendon (received from Greater Western Sydney)
28. Hawthorn
29. North Melbourne
30. Gold Coast (received from Geelong)
31. Melbourne
32. Port Adelaide
33. Sydney (received from Collingwood)
34. West Coast
35. Sydney
36. Richmond
ROUND THREE
37. Adelaide (received from Carlton)
38. Brisbane
39. North Melbourne (received from St Kilda via on-trades)
40. Gold Coast
41. Western Bulldogs
42. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle)
43. Greater Western Sydney (received from Essendon)
44. Melbourne (received from Adelaide)
45. Greater Western Sydney
46. Hawthorn
47. Port Adelaide (received from North Melbourne)
48. Geelong
49. Melbourne
50. Port Adelaide
51. Collingwood
52. North Melbourne (received from West Coast via on-trades)
53. Collingwood (received from Sydney)
54. Geelong (received from Richmond)
ROUND FOUR
55. Geelong (received from Carlton)
56. Brisbane
57. St Kilda
58. Geelong (received from Gold Coast)
59. Western Bulldogs
60. Western Bulldogs (received from Fremantle)
61. Essendon
62. St Kilda (received from Adelaide via on-trades)
63. Greater Western Sydney
64. West Coast (received from Hawthorn via on-trades)
65. North Melbourne
66. Carlton (received from Geelong)
67. Adelaide (received from Melbourne)
68. St Kilda (received from Port Adelaide)
69. Collingwood
70. West Coast
71. Sydney
72. Richmond
ROUND FIVE
73. Carlton
74. Brisbane
75. St Kilda
76. Gold Coast
77. Western Bulldogs
78. Fremantle
79. Essendon
80. Adelaide
81. Greater Western Sydney
82. Hawthorn
83. North Melbourne
84. Geelong
85. Melbourne
86. Port Adelaide
87. Collingwood
88. West Coast
89. Sydney
90. Richmond
AFL DRAFT VALUE INDEX
ROUND ONE ROUND TWO ROUND THREE ROUND FOUR ROUND FIVE
Pick/Pts Pick/Pts Pick/Pts Pick/Pts Pick/Pts
1. 3000 19. 948 37. 483 55. 207 73. 9
2. 2517 20. 912 38. 465 56. 194 74. -
3. 2234 21. 878 39. 446 57. 182
4. 2034 22. 845 40. 429 58. 170
5. 1878 23. 815 41. 412 59. 158
6. 1751 24. 785 42. 395 60. 146
7. 1644 25. 756 43. 378 61. 135
8. 1551 26. 729 44. 362 62. 123
9. 1469 27. 703 45. 347 63. 112
10. 1395 28. 677 46. 331 64. 101
11. 1329 29. 653 47. 316 65. 90
12. 1268 30. 629 48. 302 66. 80
13. 1212 31. 606 49. 287 67. 69
14. 1161 32. 584 50. 273 68. 59
15. 1112 33. 563 51. 259 69. 49
16. 1067 34. 542 52. 246 70. 39
17. 1025 35. 522 53. 233 71. 29
18. 985 36. 502 54. 220 72. 19
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-26/indicative-draft-order-round-14-edition
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Just our luck for there to be a super draft while we're winning flags....
Hear the same crap every year super draft or weake draft etc plenty talent in draft it's how you use your picks simply.
Was clearly the year to have a proper premiership hangover #missedopportunity
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Whatever it takes.
Give them Graham, Menedue and our 1st round pick. A freak.
#whateverittakes
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Dreaming.
Would prefer Lukosius anyway.... :shh
Of the SA kids who might actually still be at our pick - Vilante, Grundy & Frederick. :shh :shh
Zak Butters from Metro with our second rounder. :shh :shh :shh
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Zak Butters from Metro with our second rounder. :shh :shh :shh
Realistically don't see him being their for our second round pick. Stocks rising fast.
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Mentioned him last year. Absolute freak.
The side that gets him will be in for one hell of an enjoyable ride!
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Very small looking player, but if he has the tank and speed, ... gee Bolton cant get a game for us and he was touted as a pretty special player. Look at the muscle on castagna, higgins, butler. Did they start that way?
Time will tell with Izak. Love the name.
Lukosius has that Aaron Fiora look?. :shh
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Zak Butters from Metro with our second rounder. :shh :shh :shh
Realistically don't see him being their for our second round pick. Stocks rising fast.
Butters going in for a shoulder reconstruction will help. Not overly impressed with what I've seen. Plenty better.
With live trading of draft picks looming, I'm dreaming of Rankine. Their will be none better. As for small, not sure who people have been watching but the guy is a bit of a bull. Explosive, takes pack parks, kicks them from everywhere, elusive. The list goes on. I'm calling it early. Best in the draft by a street.
Couple of SA boys look very good.
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Zak Butters from Metro with our second rounder. :shh :shh :shh
Realistically don't see him being their for our second round pick. Stocks rising fast.
Butters going in for a shoulder reconstruction will help. Not overly impressed with what I've seen. Plenty better.
With live trading of draft picks looming, I'm dreaming of Rankine. Their will be none better. As for small, not sure who people have been watching but the guy is a bit of a bull. Explosive, takes pack parks, kicks them from everywhere, elusive. The list goes on. I'm calling it early. Best in the draft by a street.
Couple of SA boys look very good.
SA does look to have a bumper crop of premium talent this year.
I know more about the WA boys. There are a couple in the group who could be real smokeys. A number of their best players have had interrupted prep for the Champs, so we might see a few slide a bit, although I think most recruiters would be all over it.
Our second pick is 36. Butters will be gone by then I'd have thought.
I get the Rankine love. Unless he slides though, hard to see how we could snare a high enough pick to get him. Smart clubs will be looking at the model for success we have built, 4-5 premium talent players with role players around them, and will be looking to use their picks on guys like Rankine, who is undoubtedly premium talent.
Assuming we can't get Rankine, but are looking at that type of player, Smallwood from WA could be the go. Broke his jaw playing for Claremont Colts 6 weeks ago, only just recovered in time for the Champs. Still made the team despite being underdone for match fitness, and is a very similar style of player to Rankine (thought not in that class at the moment).
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Callum Twomey's Top 20 --- (post U18 champs)
1. Sam Walsh ........ Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, DOB 2/7/00, From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
2. Jack Lukosius .... Tall Forward, 194cm, 85kg, DOB 9/8/00, From Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Izak Rankine ..... Half-For/Mid, 180cm, 76kg, DOB 23/4/00, From West Adelaide/SA
4. Max King ......... Tall Forward, 202cm, 86kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Bailey Smith ..... Midfielder, 185cm, 82kg, DOB 7/12/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
6. Ben King ......... Tall For/Def, 202cm, 85kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
7. Nick Blakey ...... Tall For/Mid, 195cm, 80kg, DOB 27/2/00, From Sydney Swans Academy/Allies
8. Tarryn Thomas ... Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, DOB 25/3/00, From Tasmania/Allies
9. Isaac Quaynor .... Half-back, 182cm, 82kg, DOB 15/1/00, From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
10. Connor Rozee .... Half-For/Mid, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 22/1/00, From North Adelaide/SA
11. Jackson Hately ... Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, DOB 21/10/00 From Central District/SA
12. Ian Hill ............. Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA
13. Jye Caldwell ..... Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, DOB 28/9/00, From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
14. Curtis Taylor .... Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
15. Rhylee West ...... Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, DOB 12/7/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
16. R. Collier-Dawkins Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
17. Bailey Williams .. Ruck/Tall For,198cm, 95kg, DOB 17/4/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
18. Chayce Jones ..... Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, DOB 14/1/00 From Tasmania/Allies
19. Zak Butters ...... Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, DOB 8/9/00 From Western Jets/Vic Metro
20. Will Kelly ........ Key Defender, 193cm, 83kg, DOB 16/8/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-05/afl-draft-phantom-form-guide-july-edition
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Said I'd like Butters with our second....first is a reach.....commentators yesterday reckoned he was a second or third rounder...
...would like a tall mid with our first for once - 188+, preferably 190+.....one of Hately or Collier-Dawkins from that list...
...though wouldn't be entirely unhappy if we snagged Bailey Williams either.... :shh
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Zac Foot to be a bolter. :shh
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Wouldn't mind Ian Hill - always handy to have a bass player to help with our tempo.... :shh
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Callum Twomey's latest Top 25 (early August)
1. Sam Walsh ........ Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, DOB 2/7/00, From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
2. Jack Lukosius .... Tall Forward, 194cm, 85kg, DOB 9/8/00, From Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Izak Rankine ..... Half-For/Mid, 180cm, 76kg, DOB 23/4/00, From West Adelaide/SA
4. Max King ......... Tall Forward, 202cm, 86kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Bailey Smith ..... Midfielder, 185cm, 82kg, DOB 7/12/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
6. Ben King ......... Tall For/Def, 202cm, 85kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
7. Nick Blakey ...... Tall For/Mid, 195cm, 80kg, DOB 27/2/00, From Sydney Swans Academy/Allies
8. Connor Rozee .... Half-For/Mid, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 22/1/00, From North Adelaide/SA (+2)
9. Jye Caldwell ..... Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, DOB 28/9/00, From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country (+4)
10. Tarryn Thomas ... Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, DOB 25/3/00, From Tasmania/Allies (-2)
11. Isaac Quaynor .... Half-back, 182cm, 82kg, DOB 15/1/00, From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-2)
12. Jackson Hately ... Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, DOB 21/10/00 From Central District/SA (-1)
13. Curtis Taylor .... Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+1)
14. Ian Hill ............. Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA (-2)
15. Rhylee West ...... Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, DOB 12/7/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
16. Zak Butters ...... Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, DOB 8/9/00 From Western Jets/Vic Metro (+3)
17. R. Collier-Dawkins Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-1)
18. Chayce Jones ..... Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, DOB 14/1/00 From Tasmania/Allies
19. Will Kelly ........ Key Defender, 193cm, 83kg, DOB 16/8/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (+1)
20. Connor McFadyen Midfielder, 190cm, 88kg, DOB 4/12/00 From Brisbane Lions Academy/Queensland/Allies (new)
21. Jez McLennan .... Half-back, 183cm, 81kg, DOB 7/9/00 From Central District/South Australia (new)
22. Jordan Clark ...... Half-back, 182cm, 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia (new)
23. Xavier Duursma .. Midfielder, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 7/7/00 From Gippsland Power/Vic Country (new)
24. Luke Valente ....... Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, DOB 8/5/00 From Norwood/South Australia (new)
25. Bailey Williams .. Ruck/Tall For,198cm, 95kg, DOB 17/4/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (-8)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-08/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-august
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The AFL has announced the AFL National draft will be held over two days (November 22-23) and for the first time there will be live trading of picks.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-08/twoday-draft-to-add-live-pick-trading
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/08/afl-draft-to-be-held-over-two-days-live-trading-of-picks-permitted/
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Tigers have spoken to Jordan Clark
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Hope we spoke to Thomas, Hately, Collier-Dawkins & Valente as well - need their type way more than yet another mid-sized rebounder.... :shh
Bailey Williams as well.... :shh :shh
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Vaente @25 would be our target. Continues the SA Captain connection
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Valente the one
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Collier-Dawkins for mine
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Callum Twomey says this year's draft isn't a "super draft".
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Future Stars co-host Callum Twomey has highlighted the point of difference in this year’s AFL draft.
While it isn’t likely to live up to the ‘super draft’ tag that has been thrown around, AFL.com.au draft guru Twomey thinks the slew of tall talent available at the top of the board will create a new sense of excitement.
“I think the point of difference around the top group in this year’s draft is the talls available,” Twomey told SEN’s Whateley.
“Jack Lukosius is there, Ben King has come on as a forward this year in the absence of his brother Max, who has gone down with an ACL injury.
“I think the fact there are three big talls right at the top of board makes it a little bit different and a little bit more exciting.
“I don’t think it’s a really, really, really special standout top 10.
“I wouldn’t say this draft has lived up to some of the hype it got for the last 12 months.
“It’s been talked about as a super draft, I don’t think it is that.
“I think most clubs are in opposition to the view that it is a super draft.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/22/twomey-highlights-the-point-of-difference-in-2018-afl-draft/
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So use our first round to trade in an inside mid??
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I'd prefer we found a way to keep our first this year.....offer up next year's first instead.... :shh
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Tyrone Smallwood made his debut for Claremont yesterday in the WAFL. Kicked a goal from a good pack mark too.
I hope we are looking at this kid.
For me, he looms as a replacement for Bolton and I think he will be available with our second round pick.
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Liam Stocker's push up the draft order has had another boost after the Sandringham Dragon won this year's Morrish Medal as the best player in the TAC Cup.
Stocker missed the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with a broken jaw but his form throughout the season saw him named the best and fairest of Victoria's under-18 competition.
The midfielder collected 19 votes to beat Western Jets midfielder Connor Thar (16 votes) and Atu Bosenavulagi (Oakleigh), Campbell Hustwaite (Dandenong) and Sam Walsh (Geelong) who all polled 14 votes.
He averaged 23 disposals and five tackles a game in his 12 TAC Cup appearances this season, and had four three-vote games.
Stocker is an inside midfielder with an appetite for winning possessions himself and getting it out, and he could force his way into the top-20 selections on NAB AFL Draft night after his strong finish to the season.
He was also named in the TAC Cup team of the year, on the forward flank, and follows Jack Higgins (Richmond), Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane) and Clayton Oliver (Melbourne) as recent winners of the Morrish Medal.
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/Samples/528522-tlslargelandscape.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-03/dragons-draft-boost-after-morrish-medal-win
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Tigers have spoken to Jordan Clark
Looks a good young player from the highlights. From my perspective when we are at the top of the ladder we need to bring
in one or two good kids a year to keep us up there down the track. Clark looks a good option.
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Valente the one
Looks a good inside prospect but seems to lack a yard of pace when trying to breakaway from packs.
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THE 2018 Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal was won by Josh Corbett on Monday night, putting the talented Werribee forward in an ideal position to realise his AFL dream.
The past 12 winners of the prestigious VFL award, handed to the League's best player under the age of 24, have ultimately been picked up by AFL clubs somewhere down the track.
Seven of those 12 players were still on AFL lists in 2018, making valuable contributions at senior level, with clubs routinely using the award to pluck hidden gems from the VFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-11/want-an-afl-career-try-winning-this-award
Lambert was a part winner (2013).
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Collier-Dawkins for mine
I know bugger all about him, but he has great size for a midfield prospect.
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We currently have picks 18, 36, 72 & 90.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-16/indicative-draft-order-your-clubs-picks-as-they-stand
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Collier-Dawkins for mine
I know bugger all about him, but he has great size for a midfield prospect.
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/13RileyCollierDawkins.jpg)
POS: Midfielder
Ht 193cm, Wt 88kg, DOB 3/2/00
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
August ranking: 17
He might not be a big ball-winner at this stage of his development, but Collier-Dawkins can impact games through the midfield without dominating them. The big-bodied inside ball-winner was excellent, particularly early, in the Chargers' finals win over the Western Jets last week. He finished with 20 disposals and had three clearances, and is most comfortable using it by hand at this stage. Has upside.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-16/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-september
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Callum Twomey's latest Top 25 (mid September)
1. Sam Walsh ........ Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, DOB 2/7/00, From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
2. Jack Lukosius .... Tall Forward, 194cm, 85kg, DOB 9/8/00, From Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Izak Rankine ..... Half-For/Mid, 180cm, 76kg, DOB 23/4/00, From West Adelaide/SA
4. Max King ......... Tall Forward, 202cm, 86kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Bailey Smith ..... Midfielder, 185cm, 82kg, DOB 7/12/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
6. Ben King ......... Tall For/Def, 202cm, 85kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
7. Nick Blakey ...... Tall For/Mid, 195cm, 80kg, DOB 27/2/00, From Sydney Swans Academy/Allies
8. Connor Rozee .... Half-For/Mid, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 22/1/00, From North Adelaide/SA
9. Jye Caldwell ..... Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, DOB 28/9/00, From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
10. Jackson Hately ... Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, DOB 21/10/00 From Central District/SA (+2)
11. Isaac Quaynor .... Half-back, 182cm, 82kg, DOB 15/1/00, From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
12. Tarryn Thomas ... Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, DOB 25/3/00, From Tasmania/Allies (-2)
13. R. Collier-Dawkins Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (+4)
14. Ian Hill ............. Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA
15. Curtis Taylor .... Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-2)
16. Rhylee West ...... Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, DOB 12/7/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
17. Jordan Clark ...... Half-back, 182cm, 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia (+5)
18. Zak Butters ...... Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, DOB 8/9/00 From Western Jets/Vic Metro (-2)
19. Luke Valente ....... Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, DOB 8/5/00 From Norwood/South Australia (+5)
20. Liam Stocker ....... Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (new)
21. Jez McLennan .... Half-back, 183cm, 81kg, DOB 7/9/00 From Central District/South Australia
22. Chayce Jones ..... Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, DOB 14/1/00 From Tasmania/Allies (-4)
23. Xavier Duursma .. Midfielder, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 7/7/00 From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
24. Connor McFadyen Midfielder, 190cm, 88kg, DOB 4/12/00 From Brisbane Lions Academy/Queensland/Allies (-4)
25. Will Kelly ........ Key Defender, 193cm, 83kg, DOB 16/8/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-6)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-16/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-september
Dropped out:
Bailey Williams .. Ruck/Tall For,198cm, 95kg, DOB 17/4/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
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I'd go with Valente to keep the track record of drafting south Australian u18 captains.
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Is the draft noted for midfielders or more KP love to get some quality inside midfielders.
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I'd go with Valente to keep the track record of drafting south Australian u18 captains.
Ready-made too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtxa7Jtz1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6biGJzYgWkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbdzHawXULc
It seems Valente will be around our pick or even slip down the draft order for the similar reasons Graham did. Question marks on his pace although his state coach says it isn't an issue. Valente is also injured (bone bruising on his knee) so he won't be at the AFL Combine front and centre in front of club recruiters.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/injury-rules-luke-valente-out-of-afl-draft-combine-but-pace-not-an-issue-says-state-coach-tony-bamford/news-story/e99b707a8dbd23abe49e27c4207682b2
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I'd go with Valente to keep the track record of drafting south Australian u18 captains.
Another mid with good size.
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At least this thread will become more popular now
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Hope Port sack SPP and we pick him up as a DFA.... :shh
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been on the terps dio :shh
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SPP has.... :shh
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Callum Twomey on Ch 9's Future Stars show has Liam Stocker going to Richmond at pick 16 in his latest first round phantom draft.
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Wouldnt mind Hately if hes still available
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Our first pick should either be tall like Fyfe/Bontempelli, a brick like Wines/Viney or ideally both like Cripps... :shh
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The interesting one this year out of the mature state league players will be Mitch Grigg. Failed in his first go at AFL with the Crows (2013-16) but has won back-to-back Magarey medals playing for Norwood in the SANFL and today had 31 disposals and kicked 6 goals in a losing Grand Final team.
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Liked Grigg in his draft year but didn't set the world on fire at Adelaide only playing 20 games over 3 seasons.
Actually started getting some decent numbers in the later part of 2016 but then was delisted.
Potentially worth a shot as at worse he becomes midfield depth especially if we lose Miles Lloyd C Ellis and Conca this year.
Only thing not sure how to classify him as a midfielder. Didn't seem to win a high % of contested ball.
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Surely there is a few inside ball winning midfielders across the state leagues.Not sure Grigg is the answer.
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The AFL has given Carlton and Gold Coast first dibs at two state league players each, so one of them will now get Mitch Grigg.
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There will still be plenty to picjk from.....it's Gold Cost & Carlton so they'll probably stuff up three of the four picks up between them anyway..... :shh
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Our first pick should either be tall like Fyfe/Bontempelli, a brick like Wines/Viney or ideally both like Cripps... :shh
Exactly. :thumbsup
But he must be a fast brick.
I don’t want to see Caddy-like running efforts in the middle of the ground too. :shh
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Doesn't necessarily need to be greased lightning, just not slow... :shh
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AFL Academy Coach Luke Power: (On 2018 being a "super-draft") The top end of this draft is great. If you're drafting up to about pick 25, you're going to get a great player.
#NABTradeRadio
https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1046577053376630784
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Jordan Clark from Claremont firming as our likely first pick if available.
Combine results likely to see him available at our first pick. Not a super athlete but a natural footballer who just knows how to play the game. Think Graham or Higgins.
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Would love to nab Ian Hill from WA if he slides to us. Yes he is small an light but gee whiz can he play!!!!!! :pray
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Would love to nab Ian Hill from WA if he slides to us. Yes he is small an light but gee whiz can he play!!!!!! :pray
Was watching some WAFL U15 squad games this week, and Ian Hill's name came up in conversation.
A chap from East Fremantle was saying that apart from Hill's skills, he has never seen a player for his age with better body contact technique. He sticks tackles and makes them hurt, which is impressive for a lightly framed player. Good tackling technique, and a very good front on tackler which is not something you see a lot of in the AFL. How this translates to AFL is anyone's guess, but if he bulks up a bit he sounds like a ripper.
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No early picks on more midgets thanks.....
Jordan Clark from Claremont firming as our likely first pick if available.
Combine results likely to see him available at our first pick. Not a super athlete but a natural footballer who just knows how to play the game. Think Graham or Higgins.
Another medium size HBF- Clarke & Twomey always have us taking them....
My ideal drsft result:
Ist pick - Collier-Dawkins or McFadyen
2nd pick - Eli Smith
3rd pick - Riley Grundy
:shh :shh :shh
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No early picks on more midgets thanks.....
Jordan Clark from Claremont firming as our likely first pick if available.
Combine results likely to see him available at our first pick. Not a super athlete but a natural footballer who just knows how to play the game. Think Graham or Higgins.
Another medium size HBF- Clarke & Twomey always have us taking them....
My ideal drsft result:
Ist pick - Collier-Dawkins or McFadyen
2nd pick - Eli Smith
3rd pick - Riley Grundy
:shh :shh :shh
Collier-Dawkins looks a great prospect. Not sure he lasts until our first pick.
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So many good players this year. I'm sure their will be more gems even deeper in the draft. Can't wait!
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EPSN did a phantom draft the other day and had Collier Dawson going the pick after ours at #17
No allowance for compo picks or father son/academy picks though
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Live pick trading a draft boon
richmondfc.com.au
October 6, 2018
Richmond Recruiting Officer Luke Williams has outlined how the introduction of live trading of picks at this year’s AFL national draft will benefit the Tigers and other league clubs.
“It’s pretty exciting for the industry,” Williams told ‘Roar Vision’ at the completion of the annual four-day AFL draft combine.
“It gives us a bit of flexibility . . . Prior to this year, we’ve known which picks we’ve got, and in some cases you’re hopeful that a particular player will get to your pick.
“But this sort of flexibility gives us a chance to really hone in on some players that are a big focus for us and potentially work with some other clubs to push up the order or back down . . . whatever it might be.
“It gives us a better chance of landing the player that we are really after.”
The 2018 AFL national draft will be held over two days for the first time – on Thursday, November 22 and Friday, November 23 – at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne.
Live pick trading will enable clubs to exchange picks to move up or down the order while the draft is in progress.
Future picks from the following year can also be swapped, however, once a player is drafted, he can’t be on-traded to another club.
Williams highlighted the overall value of the draft combine for AFL recruiters, who this year were able to watch a total of 85 draft hopefuls compete in a variety of physical tests and had the opportunity to interview them.
“Nothing beats watching the players play football . . . ultimately this experience at the combine just confirms and complements the information that we’ve already gathered. So it ends up being quite crucial to our end decision-making,” Williams said.
“Coming into what is going to be our first experience of live trading, the more information we can gather, the better.
“So this year’s combine, in particular, has been really crucial for that.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-10-06/live-pick-trading-a-draft-boon
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The Tigers will top up their list with four picks in the national draft and half a dozen rookies.
DRAFT PICKS: 16, 34, 70, 88.
Source: Herald-Sun website (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ultimate-trade-guide-find-out-exactly-who-your-club-is-chasing-this-offseason/news-story/e0aa51703b7b7409b4ace6dc2fb936a2)
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The Tigers will top up their list with four picks in the national draft and half a dozen rookies.
DRAFT PICKS: 16, 34, 70, 88.
our pick 16 for two 2 rd picks mid twenties like we did last season.
Source: Herald-Sun website (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ultimate-trade-guide-find-out-exactly-who-your-club-is-chasing-this-offseason/news-story/e0aa51703b7b7409b4ace6dc2fb936a2)
I think we may have a few more picks and those 70 and 88 will be alot early with a swap of picks with suns and dogs.Maybe do a deal for
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Hope we're looking at this kid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=145&v=ApaU4BvnkP8
:shh
p.s. Time for a video embedding function here.... :shh :shh
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Hope we're looking at this kid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=145&v=ApaU4BvnkP8
:shh
p.s. Time for a video embedding function here.... :shh :shh
I had him down for 34 but sfter the combine he may be a bolter..... :shh
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Guys...like, whoa....:shh
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
May not be quick enough.
O'Halloran for mine :gotigers
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
May not be quick enough.
O'Halloran for mine :gotigers
Very agile for his size though. Something like 8.3 seconds for the agility test which was about 5th best IIRC.
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
May not be quick enough.
O'Halloran for mine :gotigers
O’Halloran is a dud, trust me. Not fast or skilfull at all! Goes missing in big games and doesn’t fly the flag.
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
May not be quick enough.
O'Halloran for mine :gotigers
O’Halloran is a dud, trust me. Not fast or skilfull at all! Goes missing in big games and doesn’t fly the flag.
You probably know him better than me but you're dead wrong about him not being quick.
Check out his combine results. Absolute elite in many categories, especially 20m sprint and agility.
Also wad made Captain of Vic Metro so surprised you say he doesn't fly the flag!
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Just to clarify - want Smith with our second....Collier-Dawkins (unlikely) or McFadyen(more likely) with our first...need big and/or tall mids , we have enough pace for now and we haven't lost any yet.....like to see Castagna, Butler, Bolton & Menadue all spending more time in the guts next year... :shh
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Sure we want Ely Smith?
ElyS......... :rollin
We haven’t done so well recruiting anyone with that name. :shh
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Hands like steel trap..... :shh
May not be quick enough.
O'Halloran for mine :gotigers
O’Halloran is a dud, trust me. Not fast or skilfull at all! Goes missing in big games and doesn’t fly the flag.
You probably know him better than me but you're dead wrong about him not being quick.
Check out his combine results. Absolute elite in many categories, especially 20m sprint and agility.
Also wad made Captain of Vic Metro so surprised you say he doesn't fly the flag!
Oakley-Nicholls was very quick in the testing too ... O'Halloran can play but isn't what you think he is.
JON Mark II
Edit: Fixed quoting tags
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Fix your damn quote torch.... ...no idea what you actually posted then... :huh
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Fix your damn quote torch.... ...no idea what you actually posted then... :huh
Good point. Fixed up.
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(https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/925640149.gif)
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Vice-skipper Aartsy looking sharp at last week’s VIC State Draft Combine😎 #gotiges
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpRCd0CU8AAXA2Q.jpg)
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/status/1050537705690390528
A potential rookie?
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Vice-skipper Aartsy looking sharp at last week’s VIC State Draft Combine😎 #gotiges
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpRCd0CU8AAXA2Q.jpg)
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/status/1050537705690390528
A potential rookie?
We are keen however have competition :shh
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Saw a few games both live and on TV. Can't see the attraction really? Nothing against him but we have quite a few of his type on the list already
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Meh...very good VFL player but that's his level...Mannagh a better prospect IMO....other state leaguers I hope we're looking at are Gibbons, Bewely, Rippon, Lok, Hind, Palmer, Jonty Scharenberg., Shane Nelson and the best ruck we can find... :shh
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Meh...very good VFL player but that's his level...Mannagh a better prospect IMO....other state leaguers I hope we're looking at are Gibbons, Bewely, Rippon, Lok, Hind, Palmer, Jonty Scharenberg., Shane Nelson and the best ruck we can find... :shh
Not sold on Shane Nelson (assume the West Perth version). Have seen him live a fair bit. He gets a lot of the footy but at WAFL level you really need to tear teams up when you do that, and he doesn't. He is good, but I am not sure he can step up to the next level, which given my track record of evaluating WAFL propsects suggests he wil become an gun at AFL level.
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BTW, if anyone is interested in monitoring a bolter for the draft, keep your eye out for Riley Morgan from Claremont.
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Mitch Grigg - late pick/rookie :shh
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Mitch Grigg - late pick/rookie :shh
Good player IMO.
Really surprised he didn’t get more opportunity at Adelaide when he was there.
100% worth another chance.
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Callum Twomey has Ian Hill at 17.
That would be a steal. In any other drafy he'd be top 10 easily.
My ideal:
Pick 17 - best available - Ian Hill (gives us skill, pace and beautiful delivery into the forward 50 and tackles!)
Pick 35 - best big mid available - Ely Smith (hope he slides to this pick)
Pick ? (trade pick from Stengle or Lloyd) - Riley Grundy
Pick 71 - Best ruck available at this pick
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Not sure how we see ourselves off for tall forward players but if we are looking for one Oliver Eastland might be a go.
At 196cm might be an inbetweener, but plays ruck for Claremont (and holds his own against much more mature players), and moves really well. Looks a promising type forward as well.
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That’s Ok as long as he isn’t over 200cm
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That’s Ok as long as he isn’t over 200cm
Lynch is 199cm. Thank goodness for that. :clapping
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Mitch Grigg - late pick/rookie :shh
Way tooooooo slow...makes Miles look like Bolt :shh
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Tigers have spoken to Jordan Clark
Looks a good young player from the highlights. From my perspective when we are at the top of the ladder we need to bring
in one or two good kids a year to keep us up there down the track. Clark looks a good option.
Any chance we will get this young man. He looks a good prospect and with Houli probably retiring next year we need a half back
who can direct play and get us moving. I hope we take Clark if we get the chance.
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Clark now a top 10 pick according to Twomey. Has risen 12 spots in the past two months.
Callum Twomey's latest Top 30 (mid October)
1. Sam Walsh ........ Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, DOB 2/7/00, From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
2. Jack Lukosius .... Tall Forward, 194cm, 85kg, DOB 9/8/00, From Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Izak Rankine ..... Half-For/Mid, 180cm, 76kg, DOB 23/4/00, From West Adelaide/SA
4. Max King ......... Tall Forward, 202cm, 86kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Bailey Smith ..... Midfielder, 185cm, 82kg, DOB 7/12/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
6. Ben King ......... Tall For/Def, 202cm, 85kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
7. Connor Rozee .... Half-For/Mid, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 22/1/00, From North Adelaide/SA (+1)
8. Nick Blakey ...... Tall For/Mid, 195cm, 80kg, DOB 27/2/00, From Sydney Swans Academy/Allies (-1)
9. Jye Caldwell ..... Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, DOB 28/9/00, From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
10. Jordan Clark ...... Half-back, 182cm, 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia (+7)
11. Jackson Hately ... Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, DOB 21/10/00 From Central District/SA (-1)
12. Tarryn Thomas ... Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, DOB 25/3/00, From Tasmania/Allies
13. Zak Butters ...... Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, DOB 8/9/00 From Western Jets/Vic Metro (+5)
14. Isaac Quaynor .... Half-back, 182cm, 82kg, DOB 15/1/00, From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-3)
15. R. Collier-Dawkins Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-2)
16. Curtis Taylor .... Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
17. Ian Hill ............. Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA (-3)
18. Liam Stocker ....... Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+2)
19. Rhylee West ...... Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, DOB 12/7/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-3)
20. Chayce Jones ..... Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, DOB 14/1/00 From Tasmania/Allies (+2)
21. Jez McLennan .... Half-back, 183cm, 81kg, DOB 7/9/00 From Central District/South Australia
22. Luke Valente ....... Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, DOB 8/5/00 From Norwood/South Australia (-3)
23. Sam Sturt ........ Half-forward, 188cm, 78kg, DOB 12/5/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (new)
24. Will Kelly ........ Key Defender, 193cm, 83kg, DOB 16/8/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (+1)
25. Connor McFadyen .. Midfielder, 190cm, 88kg, DOB 4/12/00 From Brisbane Lions Academy/Queensland/Allies (-1)
26. Edward McHenry Mid/Small For, 178cm, 71kg, DOB 13/7/00 From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (new)
27. Xavier Duursma .. Midfielder, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 7/7/00 From Gippsland Power/Vic Country (-4)
28. Bailey Scott ........ Midfielder, 186cm, 74kg, DOB 9/7/00 From Gold Coast Academy/Allies (new)
29. Ely Smith ........... Midfielder, 188cm, 86kg, DOB 13/9/00 From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (new)
30. Xavier O'Halloran Midfielder, 187cm, 83kg, DOB 11/7/00 From Vic Metro/Western Jets (new)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-14/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-october
Formerly in:
(August)
Bailey Williams .. Ruck/Tall For,198cm, 95kg, DOB 17/4/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
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Mitch Grigg - late pick/rookie :shh
Way tooooooo slow...makes Miles look like Bolt :shh
He'd likely just be inside depth with a late/rookie pick not first 22 on the wing...not as one dimensional as Miles either, bigger, taller, can take marks , play forward and kick goals....like the 6 he kicked in the SANFL GF on top of his 31 touches...back to back McGoo Medalist, Jack Oakley Medal (SANFL Norm Smith) and goal of the year for good measure.... at the very worst a better, more versatile version of Matt Thomas... :shh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6eHPISQkkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2myqahNqdoA
:shh :shh
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Mitch Grigg - late pick/rookie :shh
Way tooooooo slow...makes Miles look like Bolt :shh
He'd likely just be inside depth with a late/rookie pick not first 22 on the wing...not as one dimensional as Miles either, bigger, taller, can take marks , play forward and kick goals....like the 6 he kicked in the SANFL GF on top of his 31 touches...back to back McGoo Medalist, Jack Oakley Medal (SANFL Norm Smith) and goal of the year for good measure.... at the very worst a better, more versatile version of Matt Thomas... :shh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6eHPISQkkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2myqahNqdoA
:shh :shh
Yes - can play just being difficult :shh
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* We value this year's draft and want to keep our picks and add more.
* We'll draft some cheap mature age players 22+ y.o. looking for another Lambert.
* We'll draft 7 to 8 mids some of which will be mature picks.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-and-free-agency-discussion-2018-edition-iv.1207122/page-75#post-58464915
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Mids are obviouslly a priority as they should be this year but we shouldn't be totally ignoting KPP's....apart from the lack of ruck depth we basically have no gernuine, pure KPF's outside of Riewoldt & Lynch....they're either utilities like Moore & Balta (who are both strongest down back & weakest up forward IMO though that *might* change with Balta) ,potential swingmen who are currently defenders like Garthwite (CHF as a junior) & Miller or ruck/forward types like CCJ & Chol(and we don't even know if Chol will still be here and he looks better in defence IMO anyway...)..and Soldo who's just an old-style Diplodocus ruckman a bd a very ordinary one at that.....also take into account that the footy law of averages suggests it's a hihly unlikely that all them will even make the grade and I reckon we still need at least one more at each end - and of course another ruck.... :shh
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Big body and tall mods that can run and have skill PLEASE!
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Big body and tall mods that can run and have skill PLEASE!
I love a good typo.
"...tall mods that can run and have skill"
:snidegrin
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How tall are you WP? :lol
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According to wikipedia William Powell is 1.8m tall ;D.
Average height here which these days in footy is a small forward/mid :P. As my only decent footy skill was kicking straight I'd have to stick to the goalsquare Richard Lounder style ;D.
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Anyway, back on topic.
I've heard we're interested in Stocker.
18. Liam Stocker ....... Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
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Anyway, back on topic.
I've heard we're interested in Stocker.
18. Liam Stocker ....... Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Good size and weight, speedy?
Will build up our mid field Stockers :banghead
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Love Ian Hill but we must not draft another small forward purely as we have too many right now. Must draft 2 tall or well built mids with 17 & 37.
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Without knowing a single thing about any of these guys and just going based on their position and size listed above, Collier-Dawkins looks like the pick for me if he can slide a couple of places to 17.
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I think we just take the 2 best available at our picks. No point taking players if they are no good but have size.
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Without knowing a single thing about any of these guys and just going based on their position and size listed above, Collier-Dawkins looks like the pick for me if he can slide a couple of places to 17.
My thoughts exactly. I want a big mid who could be the next Cripps. Battering ram style. Someone 188-193cm with some size and tank.
Really wish we had tried to trade into the 2nd round, maybe by trading out someone who could have currency like B Ellis, to try to get into that 25-30 range.
GCS have picks 24 + 29. I wonder if they would have shown any interest in guys like B Ellis
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We can still trade picks on the night- future picks as well- and I suspect that could well be the plan.... :shh
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I think we just take the 2 best available at our picks. No point taking players if they are no good but have size.
So if the “best available” at pick 17 was a small forward you you take him?... I wouldn’t think so.
When you finish the home and away season on 18 wins you can afford to draft for needs more so than best available.
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I think we just take the 2 best available at our picks. No point taking players if they are no good but have size.
So if the “best available” at pick 17 was a small forward you you take him?... I wouldn’t think so.
When you finish the home and away season on 18 wins you can afford to draft for needs more so than best available.
I would then I would on trade down the track.
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I think we just take the 2 best available at our picks. No point taking players if they are no good but have size.
So if the “best available” at pick 17 was a small forward you you take him?... I wouldn’t think so.
When you finish the home and away season on 18 wins you can afford to draft for needs more so than best available.
I would then I would on trade down the track.
Shame you can't trade new draftees then...
We could take the 'best available' player at 17, then maybe on-trade to Brisbane for Connor McFayden with something coming back our way for example...
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I'd trade next year's frst and all our picks from 37-72 for GWS' picks 19, 25 & 55 - first round quality goes to 25-30 deep this year and that would gve us three picks inside the top 25...my only reservation would be that we'll probably need that first rounder next year to get one of Hopper, Cerra or SPP and we'll probably need to save our 2020 picks for MJ so we can't really use them next year either...alternatively we could trade 17 ,37 and maybe a late pick for 19 & 25 or even try and trade 37-72 for GC's picks 24 & 29 (they already have picks 2, 3 & 6 and will probably either need points or might want to draft some mature agers instead of all kids)...or even 17 & 37 and a late pick swap for WC's 20 & 22....the key is getting more picks inside the top 30 or better yet tiop 25.... :shh
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comment re mature agers
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-10-19/tigers-not-out-of-their-depth
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I'd trade next year's frst and all our picks from 37-72 for GWS' picks 19, 25 & 55 - first round quality goes to 25-30 deep this year and that would gve us three picks inside the top 25...my only reservation would be that we'll probably need that first rounder next year to get one of Hopper, Cerra or SPP and we'll probably need to save our 2020 picks for MJ so we can't really use them next year either...alternatively we could trade 17 ,37 and maybe a late pick for 19 & 25 or even try and trade 37-72 for GC's picks 24 & 29 (they already have picks 2, 3 & 6 and will probably either need points or might want to draft some mature agers instead of all kids)...or even 17 & 37 and a late pick swap for WC's 20 & 22....the key is getting more picks inside the top 30 or better yet tiop 25.... :shh
Adelaide and Port have multiple first round picks. Adelaide with 8, 13 ,16, and 21 and Port with 5, 10 and 15. And are reportedly looking to move up the draft top secure the top SA kids.
Suns could trade one or both of 2 and 3.
They could end up with 6, 8, 10, 15, 16 in a strong draft. This would then open up 24 and 29 for trades for lower picks to pick up the mature age players as you suggest above
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Phantom draft from the Roar website has Stocker going to us at our first pick (#17 -> #20 after F/S & NGA bids).
Pick 1 – Carlton Blues – Sam Walsh
Pick 2 – Gold Coast Suns – Jack Lukosius
Pick 3 – Gold Coast Suns – Izak Rankine
Pick 4 – St Kilda Saints – Connor Rozee
Pick 5 – Port Adelaide Power – Max King
Pick 6 – Gold Coast Suns – Bailey Smith
Pick 7 – Western Bulldogs – Ben King
Pick 8 – Adelaide Crows – Jackson Hately
Pick 9 – GWS Giants – Jordan Clark
Pick 10 – Sydney Swans – Nick Blakey (matching bid from Port Adelaide)
Pick 11 – Port Adelaide – Zak Butters
Pick 12 – GWS Giants – Riley Collier-Dawkins
Pick 13 – North Melbourne – Tarryn Thomas (matching bid from Geelong)
Pick 14 – Geelong – Curtis Taylor
Pick 15 – Collingwood Magpies – Isaac Quaynor (matching bid from Adelaide)
Pick 16 – Adelaide Crows – Jez McLennan
Pick 17 – Fremantle Dockers – Jye Caldwell
Pick 18 – Port Adelaide – Xavier Duursma
Pick 19 – Adelaide Crows – Sam Sturt
Pick 20 – Richmond Tigers – Liam Stocker
183cm, 83kg
Stocker won this year’s Morrish Medal as the best player of the TAC Cup. The inside midfielder is physically ready to play AFL and if the Tigers would like to get better at clearances next year, he could help with that.
Pick 21 – Brisbane Lions – Bailey Williams
Pick 22 – GWS Giants – Ned McHenry
Pick 23 – West Coast Eagles – Chayce Jones
Pick 24 – Adelaide Crows – Luke Valente
Pick 25 – Rhylee West – Western Bulldogs (matching bid from West Coast)
https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/10/19/afl-phantom-draft-2018-a-very-early-top-25/?comment_id=6563169
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I get the feeling this is the year we will get a player from our VFL side.
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Hopefully only on the rookie list and hopefully not at the expemse of the likes Gibbons, Mitch Grigg or Nelson if they're still available.
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Been told Gold Coast seriously considering the King boys at picks 2 and 3. Interesting move but could be the right move as they are honest and loyal young men.
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I get the feeling this is the year we will get a player from our VFL side.
Yes we're keen on Arts but we're not the only ones.
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I get the feeling this is the year we will get a player from our VFL side.
Yes we're keen on Arts but we're not the only ones.
wont get drafted, maybe as a rookie somewhere
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I get the feeling this is the year we will get a player from our VFL side.
Yes we're keen on Arts but we're not the only ones.
wont get drafted, maybe as a rookie somewhere
Keen as a rookie
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RICHMOND
Pick 17: Richmond has lost depth in its midfield stocks but could bring in a prospect who appears ready to go in Liam Stocker. The tough, dig-in, hands-on midfielder won the Morrish Medal at TAC Cup level this season and he's a good kick on both feet. He has the build and frame to be playing AFL next year.
Around the mark: Riley Collier-Dawkins, Chayce Jones, Luke Valente
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-21/your-clubs-first-pick-whos-in-the-mix
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The raging swapping of draft picks during the recent draft period, where 56 of the 94 draft picks were traded, and the insane appetite of fans around the country, tell us the most anticipated draft in history will soon be upon us.
For the first time, selections can be traded on the night.
It means the predictable — and boring — sequence of pick, name; pick, name; which has often been accurately predicted by football media in the first 10 selections and which has been the traditional draft process, has been revitalised.
“It creates the ability for it to be unpredictable and that creates excitement, so, really, it’s the unknown,’’ the AFL’s Josh Vanderloo said.
The machinations are endless.
“I’d also look further than that and say there may be a player available that a club thought they’d never be able to access, now suddenly they can say, ‘Righto, let’s put all our chips in and move ahead in the draft to get that player’.
“In the past, they never had that opportunity. We’ve had case studies in the past where clubs have said, ‘Gee, that player slipped, we wish we could’ve taken him,’ but their next pick was 15 away. This provides more list flexibility and clubs can be more strategic to achieve the outcomes they want.
Telecast by Fox Footy, the first-round extravaganza will be held on Thursday, November 22, and the remaining rounds the next day.
For the first time, club officials won’t be on the floor, they will be in separate rooms, where they will reveal their picks or trades via computer.
Cameras will be in each of the 18 rooms, but unfortunately not with volume.
Each club has five minutes to trade a pick or select a player, and if a trade is made, the selection has to be revealed in the same five-minute window.
In the unlikely case a club can’t make a future trade under AFL rules, because it has already traded away future picks, the draft program will reject a trade.
Logistics aside, the revamped national draft has all clubs in play.
“Certainly, every club is part of this draft no matter where their current selections lie,’’ Vanderloo said.
“Clubs will be looking at all scenarios, especially over the next five weeks leading up to the draft, and if they find one which works and the player they want is available, I definitely think there will be trades. Whether it happens in the first round, second round or third, there will be trades, definitely.’’
The AFL is hoping 5000 fans attend the draft at Marvel Stadium.
Full article: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-introduction-of-live-pick-trading-is-going-to-revitalise-the-afl-draft-writes-mark-robinson/news-story/0038b7c214011daee716876a6fd34695
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Not a Tiger question but I'd be taking Rankine with pick 1 without question. Pure match winner
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Pick 17: RICHMOND TIGERS
Sporting News
31 Oct 2018
Who will they be likely to draft?
Coincidentally Richmond had pick 17 last year and managed to snap up Jack Higgins. The Tigers will be happy if they can get another bargain this far down the list.
Chayce Jones (TAS): 180cm, 74kg
A hard-working mid who has no trouble getting his hands on the ball. And they love the Tassie Tigers down at Punt Road.
Luke Valente (SA): 186cm, 80kg
A mature young midfielder with a well-rounded game that suits Richmond’s draft style.
History of AFL draft pick 17
Most games played
313 James Kelly (Geelong, 2001)
Least games played
0 – Brendan Hehir (Geelong, 1990)
0 – Anthony Cole (Sydney Swans, 1991)
0 – Ezra Bray (Geelong, 1999)
0 – Billy Morrison (Collingwood, 2003)
Games by players selected with pick 17
Average: 74.4
Games played in completed careers
0-49: 10
50-99: 6
100-149: 4
150-199: 1
200+: 2
The best pick 17s
James Kelly (Geelong, 2001): 313 games (273 at Geelong, 40 at Essendon), All Australian (2011), three-time premiership player (2007, 09, 11)
Harry Taylor (Geelong, 2007): 237 games, two-time All Australian (2010, 13), two-time premiership player (2009, 2011)
Scott Welsh (North Melbourne, 1995): 205 games (36 at North Melbourne, 129 at Adelaide, 40 at the Western Bulldogs), premiership player (1999)
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/afl-draft-pick-17-richmond-tigers-james-kelly-harry-taylor-nab-national/1dgts6qemu0a51txdquq6pan1e
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First pick on either Collier-Dawkins, Smith, Valente, Stocker or Stack in that order - big N-O to Jones, particularly if we want immediate impact. :shh
Mitch Podhaski with a later pick would be excellent. :shh :shh
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Buckenara ranks Collier-Dawkins at our pick.
17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS
Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers
Buckenara says: There’s a lot to like about Collier-Dawkins because even though he’s 193cm, he’s a midfielder who can go forward and take a mark and kick a goal. That’s the prototype for the current-day midfielder and I think it will see him have a lot of clubs ready to pounce in the draft.
Plays like: Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenara-names-his-top-30-draft-prospects-ahead-of-what-has-been-labelled-the-next-super-draft/news-story/3e632480d76f92ab844973d18586c028
18. RHYLEE WEST
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Without knowing much about the other potential players around our first pick, this kid is precisely what we need.
He looks to have good pace, looks good below his knees for a player of his height and looks to have a good leg on him.
Put some meat on his bones and he could be the next Patty Cripps.
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Buckenara ranks Collier-Dawkins at our pick.
17. RILEY COLLIER-DAWKINS
Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, Oakliegh Chargers
Buckenara says: There’s a lot to like about Collier-Dawkins because even though he’s 193cm, he’s a midfielder who can go forward and take a mark and kick a goal. That’s the prototype for the current-day midfielder and I think it will see him have a lot of clubs ready to pounce in the draft.
Plays like: Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenara-names-his-top-30-draft-prospects-ahead-of-what-has-been-labelled-the-next-super-draft/news-story/3e632480d76f92ab844973d18586c028
18. RHYLEE WEST
193cm midfielder? yes please! Does he have a motor?
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:pray :shh
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:pray :shh
Correct. It would take a minor miracle for him to slip to us.
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..and knowing us we'd probably pass..... :shh
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Best availability for us at our pick will be sliders no doubt let's keep our mind open.I like that Foley kid WA. Love to get Lewis SA kid in second rd pick very good inside midfielder.
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Xavier Duursma moulds himself on Richmond premiership captain Trent Cotchin
November 3, 2018
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS
HE is the draft prospect who moulds himself on Richmond captain Trent Cotchin.
And there’s no surprise he is held in such high regard by not only AFL club recruiting departments, but the boys in the draft pool who have played alongside him.
Meet Xavier Duursma. The 18-year-old Vic Country prospect who looms as a potential first-round pick after a consistent season at both the TAC Cup and Under 18 Championships.
The Gippsland Power captain is one of the best leaders in the draft pool, and explained he looks up to Richmond’s 2017 premiership captain Trent Cotchin as a role model as to how best to lead a team.
“(I) probably (mould myself on) Trent Cotchin,” Duursma told foxfooty.com.au at the AFL draft combine.
“(Also) probably a bit of Isaac Smith. I think I’ve got a bit of balance of both, like my leadership and head in the whole sort of stuff, like Trent Cotchin and that’s all I can do.
“Also a bit of outside run and penetrating kicks like Isaac Smith, so I think I’ve got a bit of both which is good.”
Duursma averaged 22.8 disposals and 5.2 tackles during the TAC Cup, where he lead the Power to a Preliminary Final — their best result in over five years.
“I’ve been pretty happy with my year so far,” Duursma explained.
“Got Power to second spot on the ladder, I’m pretty happy with that. We went pretty deep into finals, so I would’ve liked to play in the Grand Final and gone all the way, but that’s footy — you’re going to get wins and losses.
“I think still it’s a pretty successful year for me and the team, I think I’ve played some good footy consistently.”
One of Duursma’s best performances for the season came on the MCG, where Vic Country and Vic Metro clashed ahead of the Collingwood and Carlton match in June.
The midfielder collected 19 disposals, seven inside 50s and five clearances as one of his team’s best players in the loss.
The 185cm prospect also has the capabilities to play across half back and reads the play well, where he can take a strong overhead mark.
“It was an amazing feeling getting out there on the ‘G. It’s a cauldron, you walk out and it’s there,” he said.
“To be able to play a good game there, it was pretty awesome. First time on the ‘G, can only hope for a few more and it was an amazing experience and great to play well there.”
Duursma has links to the AFL, after father Dean was on Melbourne’s list while Uncle Jamie also played 59 games for Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne.
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Clubs have asked Duursma how he would go away from family if they draft him, but his only major concern would be around his cooking situation.
“(Clubs) like to know how you’ll move away from home and how you think you’ll handle it. How would you cook for yourself? How would you try and clean? All that sort of stuff,” he said.
“Just how you’re going to handle the training, what example you’re going to set.”
But when prompted about his own cooking skills, Duursma said he had a lot to learn and would be hoping to move in with a player who knows their way around a kitchen.
“I’m not a good cook,” Duursma said with a laugh.
“I’ll have to practice it, try and find someone who can help me.”
Away from football, Duursma enjoys surfing and camping, where he can often be found spending many summer days in Wilsons Promontory on the east coast of Victoria.
Every AFL club could do with a leader like Duursma and there’s no surprise the talented teenager is in hot demand with less than four weeks until the draft.
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2018-xavier-duursma-moulds-himself-on-richmond-premiership-captain-trent-cotchin/news-story/6927e08c91211d7d26762737852ef34a
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Here are Foxsports's draft rankings 26-50.
So the draftees that are likely to still be available at our first two picks.
AFL Draft 2018: Power rankings, draft board, hidden gems, top prospects
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS
5 Nov 2018
THE clock is ticking down until the 2018 AFL national draft, which this year will be held over two days on November 22 and 23.
Some clubs have tasty first-round selections, while others have traded away their top picks, meaning they will be hunting the hidden gems in the draft pool.
Foxfooty.com.au presents its draft board with players ranked from 26 to 50, with players ranked 1 to 25 to be revealed in coming weeks.
NOTE: No mature-age prospects have been included in the rankings.
26. Luke VALENTE
Clubs: Norwood/South Australia
Position: Midfielder
Size: 186cm, 80kg
Bio: The inside midfielder captained South Australia in the Under 18 Championships. And after scoring an invite to the AFL draft at Marvel Stadium, he could well be drafted inside the first round. His contested ball winning ability is impressive and he won South Australia’s MVP at the carnival, averaging 22.8 disposals at 84 per cent efficiency.
27. Will KELLY
Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Position: Key defender
Size: 193cm, 83kg
Bio: The athletic defender is the son of former Collingwood player Craig and is eligible to join the Magpies as a father-son prospect in the draft. Kelly got better with every game he played in the Under 18 Championships, performing well on the MCG against Vic Country and showed off his marking ability right throughout the year. Kelly can also play as a key forward if needed.
28. Bailey WILLIAMS
Clubs: Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Position: Key forward/Ruck
Size: 198cm, 95kg
Bio: The athletic tall has a wide draft range, but could even be snapped up inside the first round. At his very best, Williams is hard to stop, where he leaps high above all other opposition players. His leap helps him pull down big marks, while he often dominates the ruck thanks to his height. He was also a member of the AFL Academy. Williams is very mobile when the ball hits the ground, he is as athletic as any general forward.
29. Xavier O’HALLORAN
Clubs: Western Jets/Vic Metro
Position: Midfielder
Size: 187cm, 83kg
Bio: The inside midfielder is one of the best leaders in the 2018 draft pool. The Vic Metro captain showed an extra string to his bow during the Under 18 Championships, pushing forward and booting multiple goals. The 18-year-old wins the contested ball and is strong at winning the clearances.
30. Connor McFADYEN
Clubs: Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies
Position: Midfielder
Size: 190cm, 88kg
Bio: McFadyen jumped onto the scene early in the season when he booted four goals in a trial match at Ikon Park. The inside midfielder missed the draft combine through injury, but showed his skills during the Under 18 Championships and was named in the All-Australian squad. He can win the football in the contest and works hard to get the ball inside 50.
31. Toby BEDFORD
Clubs: Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Position: Forward/Midfielder
Size: 176cm, 65kg
Bio: The Melbourne next generation academy prospect had a fine finish to the season, which helped him rise up draft boards. Bedford possesses outstanding speed and the indigenous prospect was a strong contributor at all levels. He is far from the finish product and has plenty of improvement left in him.
32. Luke FOLEY
Clubs: Subiaco/Western Australia
Position: Midfielder
Size: 187cm, 75kg
Bio: The 19-year-old was completely overlooked last year by all 18 clubs, but in 2018 he seems destined to have his name called out on draft night. The tall inside midfielder has battled multiple injury setbacks throughout 2018, but has shown at all levels he is capable of becoming a strong player at AFL level. He uses it well and has a strong athletic ability. Also kicks it well off his right boot.
33. Kieren BRIGGS
Clubs: GWS Giants Academy/Allies
Position: Ruck/Key forward
Size: 200cm, 98kg
Bio: The Greater Western Sydney Academy prospect had an outstanding season and was named in the All-Australia side after the national carnival. The ruckman is physical in the contest but can also be useful at ground level where he is mobile and reasonably clean below his knees. Briggs won the Allies’ MVP after averaging 24 hit-outs during the carnival.
34. Sydney STACK
Clubs: Perth/Western Australia
Position: Midfielder
Size: 177cm, 72kg
Bio: On talent alone, Stack is one of the more impressive prospects to come out of Western Australia. The indigenous midfielder jumped into the WAFL league for Perth this season, not looking out of place. Stack is good at the stoppages and in the contest, possessing good smarts and skills. He has the capability to do some eye-catching things that others in the draft pool cannot.
35. Buku KHAMIS
Clubs: Western Jets/Vic Metro
Position: Key defender
Size: 190cm, 81kg
Bio: The Sudanese key defender is linked with the Western Bulldogs via their next generation academy. Khamis is a tall defender who intercepts the ball with ease in the defensive 50. The left-foot kick was also named in the Under 18 All-Australian team, averaging 14.8 disposals and 3.8 marks per game.
36. Fraser TURNER
Clubs: Clarence/Tasmania
Position: Midfielder
Size: 186cm, 75kg
Bio: The wingman runs hard all day on the outside and is a real link-up player who can get the ball from half-back to half-forward. Turner averaged 23.8 disposals for the Allies in Division 1 and was a strong performer for Tasmania in the Under 18 Academy Series. He is a reasonable kick and competes well around the ground.
37. Jack ROSS
Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers
Position: Midfielder
Size: 186cm, 85kg
Bio: The strong-bodied midfielder does everything you want from an inside player: He tackles hard and wins the clearances. While he could polish up a few things in his game, his inside work is very attractive and he is a powerful prospect. Might be one of the few prospects who didn’t represent their state during the year that will get a chance in the draft.
38. Will HAMILL
Clubs: Dandenong Stingrays
Position: Utility
Size: 185cm, 70kg
Bio: Hamill has the capabilities to play anywhere on the ground, but looks most suited to playing as a defender. In defensive 50, he has the capabilities to break the lines and rebound the ball at speed. Hamill is a decent kick of the football and can mark well overhead. Was part of the Dandenong Stingrays’ TAC Cup premiership.
39. Ely SMITH
Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Position: Midfielder
Size: 188cm, 86kg
Bio: Smith’s mid-season form was so good that he was rushed into the Vic Country squad for their final match of the carnival. The contested bull averaged 23.5 disposals and 5.0 tackles at TAC Cup level and is a strong stoppage player. He proved any doubters over his running ability wrong at the AFL draft combine, performing well in the endurance events.
40. Jarrod CAMERON
Clubs: Swan Districts/Western Australia
Position: Forward
Size: 180cm, 69kg
Bio: The creative small forward has speed and goal nous, highlighted by his five goals for WA in the Under 18 Championships against Vic Country. The brother of Brisbane Lions’ Charlie has plenty of potential and is linked to the West Coast Eagles, via their next generation academy.
41. Laitham VANDERMEER
Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Position: Defender
Size: 180cm, 76kg
Bio: The over-ager narrowly missed out on being drafted last year after spending most of his time at Xavier College. But the defender has line-breaking speed which can be used to his advantage. He missed a chunk of the middle of the season after an Ian Hill sling tackle in the Under 18 Championships resulted in a broken collarbone and a concussion. He showed his capabilities at times up on a wing throughout 2018.
42. Harry REYNOLDS
Clubs: Brighton Grammar/Sandringham Dragons
Position: Midfielder
Size: 190cm, 75kg
Bio: The Brighton Grammar footballer’s fine season saw him jump into the eyes of recruiters after dominating the APS private school boy competition. The on-baller has plenty of upside and moves very well in the midfield. He also has a long arm span and can leap high in the air, meaning he has the ability to play forward, which he did during his junior football days. Was a late call-up to the Sandringham Dragons squad, playing four games and averaging 17.5 disposals.
43. Jack BYTEL
Clubs: Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Position: Midfielder
Size: 189cm, 80kg
Bio: It’s been a frustrating season for the inside midfielder, who was sidelined with a nasty back injury. But Bytel has enough runs on the board to suggest he should be drafted. The contested ball winner is good at the stoppages and has the ability to win plenty of the ball. Was a member of the AFL Academy.
44. Jacob KOSCHITZKE
Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Allies
Position: Key defender
Size: 196cm, 94kg
Bio: The tall defender is a strong contested mark and won All-Australian honours after a fine Under 18 Championships. The cousin of former St Kilda player Justin Koschitzke, he’s strong in one-on-one battles and took 49 marks this season in the TAC Cup.
45. Oscar BROWNLESS
Clubs: Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Position: Midfielder
Size: 186cm, 76kg
Bio: The son of Geelong great Billy is set to land at the club as a father-son selection. Brownless has shown his ability in 2018 playing mostly as a high half-forward, where he was a consistent performer at all levels. He has the ability to hit the scoreboard and can win the football in the contest.
46. Jacob KENNERLEY
Clubs: Norwood/South Australia
Position: Midfielder
Size: 184cm, 76kg
Bio: The running machine not only took out the 2km time trial at the AFL draft combine, he broke the record. Kennerley also has a good mix of speed, along with damaging skills. The midfielder is a big ball winner, blitzing the SANFL Under 18 competition for Norwood. He averaged 18.0 disposals for SA during the Under 18 Championships.
47. James ROWBOTTOM
Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Position: Midfielder
Size: 185cm, 78kg
Bio: The midfielder had a consistent season at all levels. While his foot skills is an area he can improve, his ball-winning nous and clearance work is his strength. He can win the contested ball and gets the ball inside 50 on multiple occasions during games.
48. Joe AYTON-DELANEY
Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Position: Defender
Size: 179cm, 68kg
Bio: The rebounding defender isn’t hard to miss during games, standing out not only with his red boots but his trademark run and dash from defensive 50. Ayton-Delaney has plenty of tricks and rebounds the ball well. He is very agile, but his small frame means he is likely to spend some time in the state leagues before AFL game time, if drafted. His very best, though, would make an impact at AFL level. He often had 20-plus disposals during the year in the TAC Cup.
49. Tom JOYCE
Clubs: East Fremantle/Western Australia
Position: Midfielder
Size: 181cm, 73kg
Bio: A hip injury curtailed Joyce’s season, but he has shown enough in the last three years to suggest he will find a home in November’s national draft. The small midfielder is a strong runner and his outstanding endurance means he can work hard all day in the middle of the ground. His tackling and pressure off the ball is also impressive. Was a member of the AFL Academy.
50. Josh KEMP
Clubs: PEGS/Calder Cannons
Position: Forward
Size: 184cm, 73kg
Bio: Kemp was a late riser after blitzing the AGSV schoolboy football competition, where he played for PEGS. Kemp booted multiple bags of goals and was called up to Calder’s TAC Cup squad, where he didn’t look out of place. Kemp showed off his strong marking ability and his mobility and goal sense. A club could well take a punt on the 18-year-old in the national draft.
https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-2018-draft-board-power-rankings-26-to-50-the-hidden-gems-that-loom-as-draft-bargains/news-story/9f1044dcf7c125149ed2139eaa5108e3?__twitter_impression=true
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The Tigers don’t exactly have a pressing need on their list, despite the Preliminary Final loss to Collingwood, and they will look to take the best available player. Half forward Sam Sturt could be the player to fall into their lap and the first-round bolter had a strong finals campaign for the Dandenong Stingrays.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2018-the-player-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/news-story/081efba0341aa28af27e5f0ae63feebc
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Tom Joyce is highly rated in WA football circles.
Strikes me as a Vlastuin type, although not as good overhead just yet.
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Looks like there is a fair few inside midfielders.Wouldn't mind a good half bank flanker to.
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The VFL young guns ready for next level
JAKE AARTS, 24, RICHMOND
AARTS has been kicking around for a while — originally from Beaconsfield, he started in the VFL at Bendigo Gold under Aussie Jones, and was included in the 2014 AFL Victoria VFL Academy.
When the regional club folded Aarts joined Richmond, where he’s developed into a small forward who fights and scraps to keep the ball in scoring territory.
He hit the scoreboard in nine of his 16 matches this year and picked up an invitation to the state combine.
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Michael Gibbons (175cm, Williamstown)
Nick Hind (22, Essendon)
Marty Hore (22, Collingwood)
Hayden McLean (19, 196cm, Sandringham)
Brett Bewley (23, Williamstown)
Cory Machaya (21, Casey)
Will Hayes (23, Footscray)
Ben Cararra (21, Williamstown)
Jack Charleston (25, Williamstown)
Corey Rich (22, 183cm, Frankston)
Corey Wagner (21, Casey)
Tom Jok (21, 193cm, Collingwood)
Lachlan Schultz (20, Williamstown)
Jay Lockhart (23, Casey)
Jesse Palmer (21, Northern Blues)
Marcus Lentini (19, Coburg)
Ethan Phillips (19, Port Melbourne)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/vfl/the-vfl-players-putting-their-hand-up-for-this-years-afl-drafts/news-story/8c4857e00c3eeb5437714e175a94ffd6
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The VFL young guns ready for next level
JAKE AARTS, 24, RICHMOND :thumbsdown
Michael Gibbons (175cm, Williamstown) :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Nick Hind (22, Essendon) :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Marty Hore (22, Collingwood) :thumbsup
Hayden McLean (19, 196cm, Sandringham) :thumbsup
Brett Bewley (23, Williamstown) :thumbsup
Cory Machaya (21, Casey)
Will Hayes (23, Footscray)
Ben Cararra (21, Williamstown)
Jack Charleston (25, Williamstown)
Corey Rich (22, 183cm, Frankston)
Corey Wagner (21, Casey)
Tom Jok (21, 193cm, Collingwood) :thumbsup
Lachlan Schultz (20, Williamstown)
Jay Lockhart (23, Casey)
Jesse Palmer (21, Northern Blues) :thumbsup
Marcus Lentini (19, Coburg) :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Ethan Phillips (19, Port Melbourne)
:shh
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Lentini the pick of the bunch.
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Just saw this bloke's name brought up over at BF.....
https://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-sets-its-sights-on-reformed-wafl-star-marlion-pickett/news-story/00eaea5b9f3c41846efe23a5caeaa404
He’s a contested ball-winner with a huge leap and line-breaking foot speed and is considered ready-made for AFL footy.
“He is carrying ‘the next Tim Kelly’ label but he’s a slightly different player.
“He’s a bit more of an inside midfielder and he’s a bit older than Kelly also.’’
:shh
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Lentini the pick of the bunch.
Yep. We need more good wog folk in the side. Especially with the departure of The Basin to Fremantle. Lentils fits that need. Hopefully if we draft Valente then Chesnuts can gtfo
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Apparently we have been looking at Ned McHenry.
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Geez I hope not....not only another midget but a decidedly underwhewlming one at that.... :shh
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Geez I hope not....not only another midget but a decidedly underwhewlming one at that.... :shh
Read it on the AFL website. Said the Crows and Melbourne were also interested.
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im not a fan
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Zak Butters plays a little like Richmond's Shane Edwards – not the big, hustling and bustling midfielder, but one who makes the most of his touches and brings others into the game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-09/tomorrows-heroes-zak-butters
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Twomey has us considering Collier-Dawkins.
Tomorrow's Heroes: Big-bodied midfielder with loads of potential
AFL.com.au
Callum Twomey
Nov 8, 2018 [/i]
RILEY Collier-Dawkins hasn't always been a big, ball-winning midfielder who leans on his size to rack up disposals.
It wasn't until a growth spurt in his 16th year – when he shot up about eight centimetres in the space of 12 months – that Collier-Dawkins had first call on the inside midfield role.
His new-found size took some getting used to this season, as he learnt ways to use his body at the stoppages and methods to make the most of his frame, and he was also used in the forward line while playing for Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.
Why They Should Pick Him
Collier-Dawkins can show his talent in flashes. It can be a tough pick-up at ground level, or a spinning handball in the middle of traffic, or standing up in a tackle and feeding the ball out. A lot of his best work is done under pressure because he's busy when the ball's there to be won.
His finals series for the Oakleigh Chargers showed his ability as a tall and strong midfield option for clubs.
He started with 20 disposals and a goal against the Western Jets in the elimination final, before he kicked a goal from 26 disposals in the preliminary final against Gippsland Power and had 19 touches and booted 1.2 in the Grand Final loss to the Dandenong Stingrays. His clearance work, power, size and speed from the stoppage means he has some genuine AFL traits.
The Query
Until the finals series, Collier-Dawkins had been an inside midfielder who had struggled to amass bigger numbers of the ball – which in theory should be his go-to trick.
He also much prefers handballing than kicking – he handballed twice for every one of his kicks in the TAC Cup this season – so could probably better balance that and have more confidence in his kicking which can also be sharpened up.
Plays Like
Everyone looks at Carlton's Patrick Cripps as the player Collier-Dawkins should aspire to be. Cripps also went through a growth spurt in his teenage years before maturing into the commanding player he is now, but with their similar size and strengths, the likeness is obvious.
Draft Range
Collier-Dawkins has plenty of admirers in the first round of the NAB AFL Draft. Clubs looking to add to their midfield stocks, such as Greater Western Sydney, Port Adelaide, Adelaide and Richmond look likely to consider him with top-20 choices.
Bottom Line
You're not looking at the finished product just yet with Collier-Dawkins, which is the exciting part. There's so much scope for development with the 18-year-old that he could blossom in a full-time environment. You don't have to look hard to see moments in the clinches that will translate to the way AFL is played.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-08/tomorrows-heroes-riley-collier-dawkins
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Geez I hope not....not only another midget but a decidedly underwhewlming one at that.... :shh
Read it on the AFL website. Said the Crows and Melbourne were also interested.
The 18-year-old Hill was understood to not be on the AFL's original list of players invited to the NAB AFL Draft at Marvel Stadium in two weeks' time, before scoring a ticket. More than 20 players will be at the venue for the opening night of the draft.
Included in that group is Gippsland Power's rangy midfielder Xavier Duursma, who now shapes as a top-20 smokey, and small forward/midfielder Ned McHenry, who has been linked to the Tigers, Crows and Melbourne.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-08/draft-prospect-hills-slide-may-be-west-coasts-gain
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The AFL website has done a list of state league players from around Australia who may be drafted:
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VFL
Jake Aarts
Height: 178cm
Weight: 77kg
DOB: 8/12/1994
Club: Richmond
Originally from the now defunct Bendigo Gold, Aarts had his best season at VFL level for Richmond in 2018. Playing as a small forward, the 23-year-old kicked 17 goals in 16 matches. After a couple of years in the Tigers' VFL's system, Aarts' body shape is now much more conducive to playing at the level and it was telling. His special trait is being able to stand up in tackles and he's got a few tricks with the ball. Applies good forward pressure as well, which is a fundamental part of the modern game. Projects as a rookie option for clubs in need of a dynamic small forward.
Brett Bewley
Height: 186cm
Weight: 83kg
DOB: 14/4/95
Club: Williamstown
Bewley was one of the strongest performers in the NAB AFL State Draft Combine and his test results – a 2.99 in the 20m sprint and a recorded time of 22.4 in the YoYo endurance test (the best out of the national and state testing) were testament to the work he puts into his craft. Bewley, 23, is a carpenter by trade and he enjoyed a productive season with Williamstown, gathering the fourth-most disposals in the competition. He's a strong body, he kicks the ball well and he's good overhead. A strong chance to be drafted.
Michael Gibbons
Height: 175cm
Weight: 73kg
DOB: 15/5/1995
Club: Williamstown
Gibbons has been around the draft mark for a number of years but his ability to consistently win the football – he led the VFL competition in disposals (28) – has many believing this could be his year to get picked up. Gibbons tied with then Tiger, now Sun Anthony Miles for the VFL's Liston Trophy, becoming just the eighth player in history to win the award twice. Projects as a late pick or rookie selection.
Nick Hind
Height: 181cm
Weight: 70kg
DOB: 19/8/1994
Club: Essendon VFL
Hind has speed and lots of it. His two-bounce running dash through the middle of the ground to set up James Stewart's semi-final winning goal against Richmond was spectacular and would have had recruiters sitting up to take notice. Reaffirming his pace, Hind ran 2.94 seconds over 20m at the state combine. Projects well at the next level given his upside and likely to earn an opportunity. The Bombers are believed to be keen on their state league product.
Marty Hore
Height: 189cm
Weight: 81kg
DOB: 5/3/1996
Club: Collingwood
Along with Sam Collins, who was selected by Gold Coast as a state league priority signing in October, Hore was the pick of the key defenders in the VFL this season. Won Collingwood's VFL best and fairest award in 2017 and backed it up again in 2018, with his ability to intercept mark the feature of his game. Uses the ball effectively and would be ready to play next year if called upon. Some recruiters see him more as a rookie chance, but could surprise and get picked in the national draft for clubs desperately seeking key defender depth.
Tom Jok
Height: 193cm
Weight: 80kg
DOB: 1/1/97
Club: Collingwood VFL
Jok was overlooked in the both drafts last season as top-age player, but made the most of his chance with the Magpies' VFL team in 2018. Split his time with VAFA club St Kevin's Old Boys, but had the chance to display his skillset in the latter half of the year. The 21-year-old has good athleticism and endurance, and he's versatile – he played on the wing, half-forward and half-back and even in the ruck for the Pies. Training with St Kilda in the lead up to the drafts and even won the club's time trial earlier in the week.
Jay Lockhart
Height: 176cm
Weight: 75kg
DOB: 3/2/96
Club: Casey Demons
Lockhart is a tough and rugged competitor who has the ability to play in the midfield or half-back. Played every game in his first season in the VFL after making the transition from the Tasmanian State League. Lockhart can find the footy and use it efficiently. His leadership ability has grown and despite only standing 176cm he is very strong overhead for a player of his height. At least one club is believed to be interested in securing the former Tasmanian.
Corey Wagner
Height: 180cm
Weight: 74kg
DOB: 23/3/1997
Club: Casey Demons
Played eight matches with North Melbourne in 2017 before being delisted at the end of the season. Went back to play at Casey and with brother Demons-listed player Josh and shone in a role through the midfield. Wagner is great with hands, makes good decisions with the football and is a tough competitor who is regarded as having a strong work ethic.
Hayden McLean
Height: 196cm
Weight: 93kg
DOB: 20/1/1999
Club: Sandringham
Along with Jok, McLean is the other player training with St Kilda in the lead up to the Draft. At 196cm, McLean plays predominantly as a tall forward but he can go into the ruck and pinch-hit when needed. Still only 19, McLean uses his body effectively in marking contests and he has a strong set of hands. Melbourne is another club that is reportedly interested in him after they delisted Mitch King and Lachlan Filipovic.
Will Hayes
Height: 180cm
Weight: 78kg
DOB: 5/6/1995
Club: Western Bulldogs VFL
Won the Bulldogs' VFL best and fairest enjoying the most consistent of his five seasons on the club's list. Finished fifth in the League for total disposals and has improved every year he has been at the club. Was invited to the State Combine after finishing fifth in the JJ Liston Trophy count. The son of horse trainer David looms as a possible rookie selection.
Tom Atkins
Height: 180cm
Weight: 85kg
DOB: 18/9/1995
Club: Geelong VFL
Atkins finished among the VFL competition's top ten players for handballs, contested possessions, score assists, hard ball gets and clearances. He also led the League for tackles, winning his second club best and fairest award in three years (he was runner-up in 2017). The 23-year-old is a bull at the contest and he has a well-founded ability to hit the scoreboard when breaking out of congestion.
SANFL
Mitch Grigg
Height: 183cm
Weight: 83kg
DOB: 2/1/1993
Club: Norwood
The former Crow's standout game came in this year’s SANFL Grand Final when he was adjudged best afield in a losing side, gathering 31 disposals and kicking six goals in one of the most dominant displays ever seen in a state league decider. Winning back-to-back Magarey Medals in 2017 and 2018 is a huge vote of confidence for the 25-year-old to earn a second chance at AFL level. Grigg, who is damaging by foot, played 20 matches for the Crows between 2013-2016.
Darcy Fort
Height: 205cm
Weight: 99kg
DOB: 6/8/1993
Club: Central Districts
A lack of quality ruckmen in this year’s draft has Fort in the mix to be picked up by a club who needs big man depth. The 203cm ruckman missed six weeks with a wrist injury during the year but showed enough throughout the year to suggest he deserves a chance. Fort still has plenty of development left in him and is likely to benefit from being in a full-time program.
Callum Wilkie
Height: 191cm
Weight: 87kg
DOB: 10/3/1996
Club: North Adelaide
North Adelaide’s captain is one of the SANFL’s top defenders, particularly in the way he reads the football in the air and intercept marks. Improved his fitness markedly in the pre-season, winning the club’s best and fairest award in its premiership year. Attended South Australia’s state draft combine and looks like one of its most capable prospects.
WAFL
Jye Bolton
Height: 187cm
Weight: 84kg
DOB: 3/3/92
Club: Claremont
AFL.com.au reported on Friday that up to five clubs had met with Bolton, the reigning Sandover medallist and it’s not hard to see why. Bolton, a two-time winner of the League medal, averaged 30.8 disposals for the Tigers in 2018. The 26-year-old has been a model of consistency in his stint in the WAFL after spending time as a rookie at Collingwood. Sydney is one club which has shown interest in Bolton.
Jonathon Marsh
Height: 194cm
Weight: 89kg
DOB: 17/10/1995
Club: East Fremantle
The former Magpie retired at the end of 2016, with one year remaining on his contract, after his request to be traded to a WA club fell through following an ongoing mental health battle. Marsh went back to the WAFL and played two seasons for East Fremantle, coming into his own in 2018. The backman/midfielder has elite athleticism and would fit in well to an AFL defensive system because of agility and speed.
Marlion Pickett
Height: 183cm
Weight: 85kg
DOB: 6/1/1992
Club: South Fremantle
Considered by some recruiters as the most talented state league player in the country.Made the move into the midfield this season after playing across half-back and thrived this season. Pickett is skilful, he’s fast and he’s brave in the air. Gold Coast and West Coast have shown interest in the 27-year-old who has matured a lot in recent years after a stint in jail in his late teens. The Cats are another club who have been linked with the talented Pickett.
Zac Clarke
Height: 203cm
Weight: 85kg
DOB: 28/3/1990
Club: Subiaco
The former Fremantle ruckman is back on the AFL radar after a consistent season playing at Subiaco in the WAFL. The 28-year-old was delisted by the Dockers at the end of the 2017 season after a knee complaint impacted his chances. Starred with 50 hit-outs and 17 disposals in the WAFL Grand Final and may get an opportunity with Essendon and West Coast on the lookout for an experienced big man.
Matthew Parker
Height: 187cm
Weight: 79kg
DOB: 25/1/96
Club: South Fremantle
The 22-year-old is an exciting medium-sized forward with a thrilling highlights package. Parker has AFL qualities with his speed and ability to conjure a goal, booting 27 majors from 20 League games in 2018. Parker counts Pickett and Geelong’s Tim Kelly, a former teammate at South Fremantle, as strong influences in turning his career around after he was playing amateur football less than two years ago. The Swans and Essendon are two clubs who are understood to have shown interest.
NEAFL
Fraser Thurlow
Height: 199cm
Weight: 102kg
DOB: 6/1/1993
Club: Southport
Regarded by former Melbourne coach Paul Roos as a player who deserves a chance to be on an AFL list, Thurlow is a strong and physical ruckman out of Southport. After spending time on Essendon’s list a few years back, the 200cm big man has been one of the NEAFL’s most dominant ruckman.
Andrew Boston
Height: 180cm
Weight: 79kg
DOB: 23/3/1994
Club: Southport
Also out of Southport, Boston is one of the competition’s prime midfielders. Boston played 16 games for Gold Coast after being taken with pick No.55 in the 2013 Rookie Draft. Boston is a good accumulator of the footy through the midfield and at 24 understands the need to take his opportunity.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-11/who-is-the-next-tim-kelly-the-best-matureage-prospects
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Lentini from Coburg should be on that list hoping we draft him.
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Any 2-3 of Pickett, Fort, Lentini, Grigg, Bolton, Marsh, Gibbons. :shh
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AFL Phantom Draft: Rounds 1, 2, 3
Chris Doerre
ESPN
13 November 2018
The 2018 trade period is over, but clubs can still swap picks ahead of, and during, this year's AFL Draft.
For the first time, the draft will become a two-day event -- to be held on November 22 and 23 -- with live trading of picks available, adding an extra layer of intrigue and excitement.
The order of picks will almost certainly change but as things currently stand, ESPN's AFL draft expert Chris Doerre has reached into his crystal ball to predict the first three rounds of this year's event.
The following father-son and academy prospects are likely to attract bids inside the first or second round but were not included inside this phantom draft as their clubs either do not have a pick inside the first or second round, or a bid is expected to come after their selection:
17. Richmond
Liam Stocker (VIC)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 83kg
Profile: Prolific contested ball-winner with clean skills who runs all day. Awarded the Morrish Medal for the TAC Cup's best and fairest.
37. Richmond
Tom Sparrow (SA)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 81kg
Profile: Explosive, aggressive ball-winning midfielder. As courageous and relentless an attacker on the ball as any in the draft.
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1. Carlton
Sam Walsh (VIC)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 74kg
Profile: The most highly touted midfielder in the draft class. An elite endurance runner with as advanced a game as any in an inside or outside role.
2. Gold Coast
Jack Lukosius (SA)
Height, Weight: 194cm, 85kg
Profile: The next prototype key forward who covers the ground like Nick Riewoldt, sees the game unfold before it happens and hits impossible targets by foot like no key forward we have seen. A potential generational player.
3. Gold Coast
Izak Rankine (SA)
Height, Weight: 180cm, 76kg
Profile: Possessing comparable talent to ex-Adelaide great Andrew McLeod and Hawthorn veteran Shaun Burgoyne, Rankine can turn games like no one else in this draft. A season one-ready forward and midfielder with speed, skill, goal sense and ball-winning capabilities.
4. St Kilda
Max King (VIC)
Height, Weight: 202cm, 86kg
Profile: As difficult to defend inside 50m as any junior key forward in recent years. Kicked eight goals and took nine marks (six contested) in his only game this season before tearing his ACL.
5. Port Adelaide
Ben King (VIC)
Height, Weight: 202cm, 85kg
Profile: Versatile key position player who is a capable marking forward or a key defender who can play both as a stopper and rebounder. He is more versatile and effective up the ground than his twin Max, but the less dominant close to goal.
6. Gold Coast
Connor Rozee (SA)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 71kg
Profile: Athletic utility who is likely begin his career as a pressure forward before pushing up through the midfield. Combines clean skills with aerial ability and ground level prowess.
7. Western Bulldogs
Bailey Smith (VIC)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 82kg
Profile: Arguably the best and most complete midfielder in the draft. Smith is not only a high production midfielder but also offers the best combination of contested ball-winning, reliable kicking and acceleration in this draft.
8. Adelaide
Jye Caldwell (VIC)
Height, Weight: 184cm, 78kg
Profile: Caldwell has had limited exposure with just three TAC Cup matches due to hamstring troubles. He's a powerful ball-winning midfielder with a burst of speed.
9. GWS
Jordan Clark (WA)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 78kg
Profile: Precise kicking half-back flanker who reads the ball in flight and takes intercept marks. Averaged more than 15 disposals and five marks in his five WAFL League performances.
10. Port Adelaide
Chayce Jones (TAS)
Height, Weight: 180cm, 74kg
Profile: A tireless ball-winner and accumulator who runs all day. Has been one of Launceston's best players in six of his seven State League appearances.
11. GWS
Riley Collier-Dawkins (VIC)
Height, Weight: 193cm, 88kg
Profile: First possession winner who gathers the ball on the move and bursts out of stoppages. Possesses rare speed, agility, skills and clean hands for someone of his height.
12. Geelong
Sam Sturt (VIC)
Height, Weight: 188cm, 79kg
Profile: Dangerous medium marking forward who from his first TAC Cup game looked a class above. Possesses arguably the sweetest left foot kick to a target and on goal in this draft.
13. Adelaide
Jackson Hately (SA)
Height, Weight: 190cm, 81kg
Profile: Ready-to-go midfielder who is a consistent performer in the SANFL at League level. Balances contested ball-winning with outside accumulation and run.
14. Fremantle
Zak Butters (VIC)
Height, Weight: 181cm, 70kg
Profile: Shoulder surgery meant Butters missed the second half of the season. Possessing speed, agility and clean skills, he is a high-impact-per-possession midfielder who can push forward.
15. Port Adelaide
Xavier Duursma (VIC)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 71kg
Profile: One of the rare midfielders who plays an inside or outside role to a high standard. A speedy, smooth-moving midfielder with clean skills and ball-winning capabilities.
16. Adelaide
Curtis Taylor (VIC)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 79kg
Profile: Powerful marking forward with clean skills. Just as capable pushing through the midfield and winning his own ball.
17. Richmond
Liam Stocker (VIC)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 83kg
Profile: Prolific contested ball-winner with clean skills who runs all day. Awarded the Morrish Medal for the TAC Cup's best and fairest.
18. Brisbane
Jez McLennan (SA)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 81kg
Profile: A clean-kicking defender and effective intercept mark. Made the under-18 All-Australian team and played five SANFL League matches.
19. GWS
Ian Hill (WA)
Height, Weight: 175cm, 76kg
Profile: Explosive and damaging line-breaker who made a name for himself as an underager during the 2017 Under-18 Championships. One of this year's most exciting with ball in hand.
20. West Coast
Luke Valente (SA)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 80kg
Profile: Prolific ball-winning midfielder with clean skills. South Australian captain and MVP during the Under-18 Championships.
21. Adelaide
Luke Foley (WA)
Height, Weight: 187cm, 75kg
Profile: High production overager known for his speed and endurance. An improved contested ball-winner sees his desirability increase.
22. West Coast
Xavier O'Halloran (VIC)
Height, Weight: 187cm, 83kg
Profile: High-impact-per-possession athletic midfielder. Bursts away from stoppages and possesses clean skills.
23. Melbourne
Bailey Williams (VIC)
Height, Weight: 198cm, 95kg
Profile: Ultra athletic key forward who is difficult to stop when he can jump and fully extend his arms up towards the ball. Through the ruck he leaps so high his torso is often higher than his opponent's shoulders.
24. Gold Coast
Ned McHenry (VIC)
Height, Weight: 176cm, 71kg
Profile: McHenry is this year's premier forward pressure specialist, leading the Under-18 Championships in tackles and pressure acts as a small forward. An elite endurance athlete, McHenry can also push up the wings.
25. GWS
Ely Smith (VIC)
Height, Weight: 188cm, 86kg
Profile: Prolific inside extractor who wins first possession and dishes out by hand. Strong tackler and a surprise Draft Combine star.
26. Sydney *bid on Blakely likely to come 4-10
Nick Blakey (NSW - Sydney Academy)
Height, Weight: 195cm, 80kg
Profile: Has missed a lot of time with a stress reaction in his ankle and a stress fracture in his back in 2017. A rare talent with his athleticism, skills and ground level capabilities, he can play any position.
27. Western Bulldogs *bid on West likely to come 15-30
Rhylee West (VIC - Western Bulldogs father-son)
Height, Weight: 180cm, 80kg
Profile: Ball-winning midfielder with production on the board. Son of Scott, Rhylee is a prolific mid who starred for Vic Metro during the Under-18 Championships.
28. Melbourne
Fraser Turner (TAS)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 75kg
Profile: Outside accumulator who runs all day. A sound decision-maker with clean skills who was a consistent performer for the Allies during the Under-18 Championships.
29. Gold Coast
Jacob Koschitzke (NSW/ACT)
Height, Weight: 196cm, 94kg
Profile: Strong one-on-one key defender who takes powerful marks in defence. Cousin of ex-Saint Jacob Koschitzke.
30. Brisbane
Jacob Kennerley (SA)
Height, Weight: 184cm, 76kg
Profile: Outside accumulator who runs all day. Strong speed and endurance athlete who linked up and provided outside run for South Australia during the Under-18 Championships.
31. Fremantle
Boyd Woodcock (SA)
Height, Weight: 174cm, 68kg
Profile: A standout for North Adelaide during the SANFL League finals, kicking eight goals during the finals including three in the Grand Final. Woodcock is equally capable as a midfielder.
32. Western Bulldogs
James Rowbottom (VIC)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 78kg
Profile: Proficient stoppage player. Strong tackler who wins his own ball and has a burst of speed.
33. Sydney
Tom McKenzie (VIC)
Height, Weight: 184cm, 76kg
Profile: Skilful midfielder and winner of the 20m sprint at the AFL Draft Combine. An improved ball-winner who is versatile enough to push into defence.
34. Essendon
Jack Ross (VIC)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 85kg
Profile: First possession winner at stoppages with the strength and power to burst through tackles. Effective distributor who is clean by hand and foot and displays a solid work rate.
35. Brisbane *bid on McFadyen likely to come 20-40
Connor McFadyen (QLD - Brisbane Academy)
Height, Weight: 190cm, 88kg
Profile: The Allies' most dangerous marking forward and best ball-winning midfielder during the Under-18 Championships. Strong performances on the board during the second half of the season.
36. St Kilda
Zac Foot (VIC)
Height, Weight: 180cm, 71kg
Profile: Lively forward with pace and prowess at ground level. Applies heavy forward pressure and hits the scoreboard.
37. Richmond
Tom Sparrow (SA)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 81kg
Profile: Explosive, aggressive ball-winning midfielder. As courageous and relentless an attacker on the ball as any in the draft.
38. Sydney
Damon Greaves (WA)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 77kg
Profile: Exciting running backman and capable ball user. A consistent performer in the WAFL Colts averaging 23 disposals and only once dropping below 20 disposals from 12 matches.
39. Sydney
Jack Bytel (VIC)
Height, Weight: 188cm, 82kg
Profile: Powerful ball winner who has struggled for much of 2018 with back complaints. One of the most prolific stoppage players in the draft pool.
40. Sydney
Will Hamill (VIC)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 70kg
Profile: Line breaking and prolific marking defender. Starred at the draft combine in the speed, agility, endurance and leaping tests.
41. Collingwood *bid on Quaynor likely to come 10-20
Isaac Quaynor (VIC - Collingwood Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 82kg
Profile: Strongly built, ready-made lockdown defender. A powerful ground ball winner who may in time push up through the midfield.
42. North Melbourne *bid on Thomas likely to come 8-20
Tarryn Thomas (TAS - North Melbourne Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 189cm, 73kg
Profile: Exceptional defensively with his tackling and smothering as impressive as any in this draft. A ball winner who hits the scoreboard and uses the ball efficiently.
43. Fremantle
Sydney Stack (WA)
Height, Weight: 177cm, 72kg
Profile: One of this draft's most exciting and impactful players. A prolific ball-winner and tackler who hits the ball at speed and accelerates away.
44. Collingwood *bid on Kelly likely to come 20-40
Will Kelly (VIC - Collingwood father-son)
Height, Weight: 193cm, 83kg
Profile: Athletic key defender who shuts down his opponents. The son of Craig provides run from defence and possesses clean skills.
45. Western Bulldogs
Angus Hanrahan (VIC)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 68kg
Profile: Damaging forward who can push up through the midfield. Hurts the opposition with his kicking and run.
46. St Kilda
Xavier O'Neil (VIC)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 78kg
Profile: Hard working midfielder who is always on the move. O'Neil wins the ball at stoppages and possesses clean skills.
47. North Melbourne *bid on Scott likely to come 20-40
Bailey Scott (QLD - North Melbourne father-son)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 74kg
Profile: Hard working midfield accumulator. An elite endurance athlete, the son of Robert is clean at ground level and an effective ball user.
48. North Melbourne
Marlion Pickett (WA)
Height, Weight: 183cm, 85kg
Profile: A plug and play mature age prospect who can play midfield, back or forward. One of the most damaging players outside the AFL with damaging skills and athleticism.
49. North Melbourne
Mitch Maguire (ACT)
Height, Weight: 175cm, 76kg
Profile: A mature age ball winning midfielder with damaging skills, power and the capacity to hit the scoreboard. Won this year's NEAFL Rising Star.
50. Geelong *bid on Brownless likely to come 30-50
Oscar Brownless (Geelong - father-son)
Height, Weight: 186cm, 76kg
Profile: Son of Bill, Oscar is a well-rounded midfielder. Brownless balances winning the ball with evasion in traffic and impressive endurance.
51. Collingwood
Riley Grundy (SA)
Height, Weight: 195cm, 79kg
Profile: Athletic key defender who is best utilised as a stopper. Younger brother of Collingwood's Brodie.
52. GWS *bid on Briggs likely to come 30-50
Kieran Briggs (NSW - GWS Academy)
Height, Weight: 200cm, 98kg
Profile: Competitive and powerful ruckman who tackles aggressively and is a powerful overhead mark. This year's most promising ruck prospect.
53. Hawthorn
Kyle Reid (VIC)
Height, Weight: 193cm, 85kg
Profile: Athletic key defender who competes well one-on-one. Takes intercept marks and negates his opponent's influence.
54. Melbourne *bid on Bedford likely to come 30-50
Toby Bedford (VIC - Melbourne Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 176cm, 65kg
Profile: Line breaker who often runs the ball 30m at speed before disposing of the ball. Prolific tackler with his application of forward pressure among the best in the draft.
55. North Melbourne
Ben Jarvis (SA)
Height, Weight: 188cm, 77kg
Profile: Athletic, marking medium forward who reads the ball in flight well. Possesses the traits to play at either end of the field.
56. Brisbane
Thomas Berry (VIC)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 76kg
Profile: Explosive ball winning midfielder who plays with a hard edge. Younger brother of Brisbane's Jarrod.
57. Collingwood
Will Golds (VIC)
Height, Weight: 181cm, 68kg
Profile: Hard working outside runner who links up effectively. Stood out at the draft combine in the endurance testing.
58. North Melbourne
Charlie Sprague (VIC)
Height, Weight: 187cm, 79kg
Profile: Medium marking forward who is most dangerous close to goal. Displays a high work rate and football smarts.
The following father-son and academy prospects are likely to attract bids inside the first or second round but were not included inside this phantom draft as their clubs either do not have a pick inside the first or second round, or a bid is expected to come after their selection:
West Coast *bid likely to come 25-50
Jarrod Cameron (WA - West Coast Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 180cm, 69kg
Profile: Lively, forward with speed who applies heavy forward pressure and is dangerous around goal. Younger brother of Brisbane's Charlie.
Hawthorn *bid on Mosquito likely to come 40-60
Irving Mosquito (Hawthorn - Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 175cm, 69kg
Profile: Lively small forward and forward pressure specialist. Quick and does his best work at ground level.
Western Bulldogs *bid on Khamis likely to come 40-60
Buku Khamis (Western Bulldogs - Next Generation Academy)
Height, Weight: 190cm, 81kg
Profile: Springy defender who reads the ball in flight effectively and intercepts across half-back. Khamis is a very reliable kick, maintaining an impressive 81 percent kicking efficiency through the TAC Cup season.
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/25236179/afl-draft-phantom-chris-doerre-knightmare-first-three-rounds
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Another player who is understood to have received a late invitation to the draft is Curtis Taylor, who could be in the Eagles' sights with their pair of selections.
Taylor is a smart and crafty half-forward who plays in a similar fashion to retired Eagle Mark LeCras.
Richmond and Adelaide could also consider Taylor, who is viewed as one of the draft's best finishers close to goal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-13/clubs-line-up-for-late-draft-bolter-after-impressive-combine
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From a WA perspective, I will be surprised if:
Stack goes that late. Personally think he is a better prospect than Ian Hill.
Tyron Smallwood isn't drafted in the top three rounds. Not the quickest, not the hardest, not the biggest or strongest, just knows how to play the game. Great footy smarts.
Marlion Pickett lasts until pick 48. Can definately see him going to the Roos, but for an earlier pick. Have heard the Cats are very keen here as well.
Jordan Clark goes top 10. Too much athletic football talent ahead of him. 11-16 about his range in this field.
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Also, FWIW, I have heard that Sparrow is a pretty ropey kick, and decision making not great under pressure.
So he probably has elite disposal and a great footy brain, but anyways.....
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Twomey in his latest podcast on the AFL website has Stocker as fitting our needs best.
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Cal Twomey and AFL talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan simulate the first round of the draft by picking for the clubs based on their needs.
It is not a phantom draft but instead the guys focus on which player would suit the respective clubs.
1. Carl - Sam Walsh
2. GC - Jack Lukosius
3. GC - Izak Rankine
4. StK - Max King
5. Port - Ben King
6. GC - Connor Rozee (Kevin Sheehan reckons Adelaide will try to offer picks 13 & 16 for pick 6 here)
7*. Syd - Nick Blakey (match F/S Bid)
8. WB - Bailey Smith
9. Adel - Jackson Hately
10. GWS - Jye Caldwell
11. Port - Jordan Clark
12*. Coll - Issac Quaynor (match Academy bid)
13. GWS - Zak Butters
14. Geel - Chayce Jones
15* North - Tarryn Thomas (match F/S bid)
16. Adel - Riley Collier-Dawkins
17. Freo - Ian Hill
18. Port - Xavier Duursma
19. Adel - Luke Valente
20. Rich - Liam Stocker.
Tiges have lost some midfield depth. Stocker won the Morrish medal. Big body mid. Kicks well on both feet. Digs in in the midfield and delivers well. Needs to work on his running. Expects him to rise to the expected level of an AFL/Richmond midfielder.
21. Bris - Curtis Taylor
22. GWS - Sam Sturt
23*. WB - Rhylee West (match F/S bid)
24. WCE - Tom Joyce
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-13/podcast-team-reveals-their-mock-draft-for-the-first-round
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/champion-data-has-ranked-izak-rankine-no-2-but-he-should-be-no-1-says-sa-talent-chief-brenton-phillips/news-story/03a637dbda36c1e22c2fe2ff59257a7c
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RICHMOND TIGERS
Draft picks after the trade period: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74, 92
What Richmond needs
A trade period that saw Tom Lynch come in and a bevy of depth players go out sees the emphasis move from key forwards to midfielders at Tigerland.
The elite onballers are still at the club, but the loss of Reece Conca, Corey Ellis, Anthony Miles and Sam Lloyd doesn’t leave a lot in reserve, so running players capable of doing their apprenticeship in the back half will be a priority. There’s still no shortage of smalls up forward.
The ruck is another area of ongoing concern at Richmond as Toby Nankervis continues to shoulder the great bulk of the load.
Ivan Soldo and young Callum Coleman-Jones are capable footballers, but another understudy in the system wouldn’t hurt.
Richmond’s likely draftees
The Tigers did well with pick 17 last year, snatching Jack Higgins, and they’ll back themselves to get it right again.
Luke Valente is the type of midfielder Richmond has been targeting of late – hard working, ball winning and a natural leader. He captained the South Australian side to victory at the under-18 championships and impressed all good judges along the way.
Victorian Xavier Duursma is another that would seem right in yellow and black. Duursma will be an AFL midfielder in time, but has the game to be able to do a more-than-serviceable job as a running defender while he bulks up .
This year’s draft bolter could well be Sam Sturt, a natural forward with a beautiful left boot. Sturt started the year low in draft calculations but finished the year on a high and could catch the eye of the Tigers.
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/afl-draft-richmond-tigers-made-plenty-of-mistakes-early-in-the-draft/12dujg7w7pu901sjea5fov4ws2
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Sam Landsberger says Stocker will appeal to Richmond.
26. Liam Stocker (Sandringham Dragons)
H: 183cm, W: 83kg
Averaged only 18 disposals, 10 contested possessions and four clearances in first six matches before injury and then shot to 25 disposals, 14 contested possessions and six clearances from final nine games. Ranked in top five players for contested possessions and clearances across whole season.
SAM SAYS: Grew up in Hong Kong and has shot up draft boards since recovering from a broken jaw. TAC Cup Morrish Medallist will appeal to Richmond and GWS late in first round.
Plays like: Stephen Coniglio (GWS)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-stats-experts-champion-data-list-their-top-30-prospects-for-the-2018-draft/news-story/f30975777d5f7a67cf98f71c82898fe1
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So this bloke's old man went to a draft function....(wanker)....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-draft-watch-depth-chart-in-op.1201460/page-44#post-58817575
:shh
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So this bloke's old man went to a draft function....(wanker)....
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-draft-watch-depth-chart-in-op.1201460/page-44#post-58817575
:shh
I was there too..... :shh
That post is mostly correct. They asked us not to divulge anything said. However, the suggestions made on here are around the mark of what we're looking at. :shh
Ps. Matt Clarke said they rated Graham in the 20's in his draft year. :shh
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Just tell me the Lewis Taylor rumour isn't true....kid has Lennon/CEllis written all over him... :shh
Would rather trade next year's first then this year's...even though it will make getting Hopper and/or Cerra a lot harder.... :shh :shh
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Just tell me the Lewis Taylor rumour isn't true....kid has Lennon/CEllis written all over him... :shh
Would rather trade next year's first then this year's...even though it will make getting Hopper and/or Cerra a lot harder.... :shh :shh
Not looking at Taylor or at least he wasn't discussed.
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Here's the AFL draft machine with info and highlights of all the potential draftees:
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine
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Foxfooty has us also "particularly interested" in Stocker (they have him at pick 26 in their phantom draft).
They have O'Hallaron at our pick 17.
17. XAVIER O’HALLORAN
Clubs: Western Jets/Vic Metro
Position: Midfield
Size: 186cm, 84kg
Plays Like: Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
Champion Data says: O’Halloran placed third on the AFL Ratings at the Championships from just 13 disposals per match. He rated elite for both goals and assists and gained 24 metres per disposal. He had seven kicks inside 50 marked, with no other player above four.
foxfooty.com.au says: When you talk about the best leaders in the draft pool, it is hard to look past O’Halloran. The inside midfielder showed his versatility during the Under 18 Championships, pushing forward and booting goals. His contested ball numbers are very good and he is a player who impacts the game with plenty of clearances, inside 50s and tackles. Likely to get picked up in the second round of the draft.
26. LIAM STOCKER
Clubs: Sandringham Dragons
Position: Midfield
Size: 183cm, 85kg
Plays Like: Stephen Coniglio (GWS Giants)
Champion Data says: Stocker averaged just 18 disposals, 10 contested possessions and four clearances through his first six matches, but upon returning from injury he averaged 25 disposals, 14 contested possessions and six clearances from his final nine games. Across the entire season he ranked in the top five players for both contested possessions and clearances.
foxfooty.com.au says: The contested ball winner missed the Under 18 Championships due to a broken jaw. However he bounced back superbly in the TAC Cup to claim the Morrish medal as the competition’s best and fairest player. Coming out of stoppages, he can use the ball off either foot. His draft range lies somewhere between Picks 15 and 25, with Richmond particularly interested.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-izak-rankine-headlines-champion-data-top-30-draft-rankings-for-2018-class/news-story/b9af3ddea93b91913ca9d29a4e1fc105
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AFL national talent manager Kevin Sheehan is confident players like Sam Walsh, Jack Lukosius, Max King and Izak Rankine can have the sort of careers that will make this year’s national selection meeting known as Super Draft Mark 2 down the track.
Many AFL talent scouts believe there is a group of eight elite players right at the top of this draft with a gap between them and the rest.
Kevin Sheehan’s Top 40 AFL Draft prospects (in alphabetical order):
Nick BLAKEY
Kieren BRIGGS
Zak BUTTERS
Jack BYTEL
Jye CALDWELL
Jordan CLARK
Riley COLLIER-DAWKINS
Xavier DUURSMA
Jackson HATELY
Ian HILL
Chayce JONES
Tom JOYCE
Will KELLY
Buku KHAMIS
Ben KING
Max KING
Jacob KOSCHITZKE
Jack LUKOSIUS
Connor McFADYEN
Edward (Ned) McHENRY
Tom McKENZIE
Jez McLENNAN
Xavier O’HALLORAN
Isaac QUAYNOR
Izak RANKINE
Connor ROZEE
Bailey SCOTT
Bailey SMITH
Ely SMITH
Tom SPARROW
Sydney STACK
Liam STOCKER
Sam STURT
Curtis TAYLOR
Tarryn THOMAS
Fraser TURNER
Luke VALENTE
Sam WALSH
Rhylee WEST
Bailey WILLIAMS
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2018-kevin-sheehan-nominates-his-top-40-prospects-for-super-draft-mark-2/news-story/30b9362f2e99799c4a75d84b130103ed
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Twomey now has Curtis Taylor at our pick.
Callum Twomey's latest Top 30 (mid November)
1. Sam Walsh ........ Midfielder, 183cm, 74kg, DOB 2/7/00, From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
2. Jack Lukosius .... Tall Forward, 194cm, 85kg, DOB 9/8/00, From Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Izak Rankine ..... Half-For/Mid, 180cm, 76kg, DOB 23/4/00, From West Adelaide/SA
4. Max King ......... Tall Forward, 202cm, 86kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Bailey Smith ..... Midfielder, 185cm, 82kg, DOB 7/12/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
6. Connor Rozee .... Half-For/Mid, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 22/1/00, From North Adelaide/SA (+1)
7. Ben King ......... Tall For/Def, 202cm, 85kg, DOB 7/7/00, From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
8. Nick Blakey ...... Tall For/Mid, 195cm, 80kg, DOB 27/2/00, From Sydney Swans Academy/Allies
9. Jye Caldwell ..... Midfielder, 184cm, 78kg, DOB 28/9/00, From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
10. Jordan Clark ...... Half-back, 182cm, 78kg, DOB 16/10/00 From Claremont/Western Australia
11. Jackson Hately ... Midfielder, 190cm, 81kg, DOB 21/10/00 From Central District/SA
12. Zak Butters ...... Midfielder, 181cm, 70kg, DOB 8/9/00 From Western Jets/Vic Metro (+1)
13. Tarryn Thomas ... Midfielder, 189cm, 73kg, DOB 25/3/00, From Tasmania/Allies (-1)
14. Isaac Quaynor .... Half-back, 182cm, 82kg, DOB 15/1/00, From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
15. Chayce Jones ..... Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg, DOB 14/1/00 From Tasmania/Allies (+5)
16. R. Collier-Dawkins Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-1)
17. Curtis Taylor .... Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
18. Ian Hill ............. Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA (-1)
19. Liam Stocker ....... Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
20. Rhylee West ...... Midfielder, 180cm, 80kg, DOB 12/7/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
21. Sam Sturt ........ Half-forward, 188cm, 78kg, DOB 12/5/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (+2)
22. Luke Valente ....... Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, DOB 8/5/00 From Norwood/South Australia
23. Edward McHenry Mid/Small For, 178cm, 71kg, DOB 13/7/00 From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (+3)
24. Will Kelly ........ Key Defender, 193cm, 83kg, DOB 16/8/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
25. Xavier Duursma .. Midfielder, 185cm, 71kg, DOB 7/7/00 From Gippsland Power/Vic Country (+2)
26. Connor McFadyen .. Midfielder, 190cm, 88kg, DOB 4/12/00 From Brisbane Lions Academy/Queensland/Allies (-1)
27. Jez McLennan .... Half-back, 183cm, 81kg, DOB 7/9/00 From Central District/South Australia (-6)
28. Bailey Scott ........ Midfielder, 186cm, 74kg, DOB 9/7/00 From Gold Coast Academy/Allies
29. Xavier O'Halloran Midfielder, 187cm, 83kg, DOB 11/7/00 From Vic Metro/Western Jets (+1)
30. Kieren Briggs ...... Ruckman, 200cm, 98kg, DOB 6/10/99 From GWS Academy/Allies (new)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-16/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-november
Formerly in the top 30:
(October)
Ely Smith ........... Midfielder, 188cm, 86kg, DOB 13/9/00 From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
(August)
Bailey Williams .. Ruck/Tall For,198cm, 95kg, DOB 17/4/00 From Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
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cont:
Twomey has us interested in Collier-Dawkins, Taylor, Hill, Stocker & McHenry.
16. R. Collier-Dawkins
Midfielder, 193cm, 88kg, DOB 3/2/00 From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
After a growth spurt in recent years it took some time for Collier-Dawkins to know how to use his size and frame in the midfield this season. He felt it come together more in the back-end of the year and that came through in his finals series for the Oakleigh Chargers, when Collier-Dawkins was excellent and averaged 21 disposals and a goal over three games. A big-bodied midfielder whose flashes of brilliance at the stoppages take the eye and whose upside is promising.
Where does he go? The Giants have been linked to Collier-Dawkins, as have the Cats. It's unlikely he gets through to Richmond at pick 17 but if he does they'll consider.
17. Curtis Taylor
Half-For/Mid, 186cm, 79kg, DOB 6/4/00 From Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
The ability to make something out of nothing is something that can separate Taylor from many of his peers in this draft class. The classy half-forward battled some injury niggles across the year, but showed he has genuine class around goal and brilliant finishing skills. He leads well at the ball as a medium forward and can be trusted to convert his chances.
Where does he go?Has received a late call-up to the draft, so is in the mix for the top-20. West Coast will look at him at No.20 and 22, while he will also be in the mix for the Tigers (pick 17) and Giants (pick 19).
18. Ian Hill
Mid/Half-For, 175cm, 76kg, DOB 9/2/00, From Perth/WA
With genuine speed, dash and skills, Hill has traits that few in the draft possess. The West Australian started the season viewed as a potential top-five pick, but his year was also bookended by shoulder surgeries, which meant he never quite got going. But Hill has pace (he has run the 20m sprint in 2.82 seconds), he can jump on heads and take big marks and he's also clever around goal. The cousin of Fremantle pair Stephen and Bradley Hill is small and light, but he packs in plenty of ability.
Where does he go? Port and the Giants met with Hill recently, so he's a chance for their picks in the teens. Richmond will also look at him if he gets through to their selection, while he has been linked to West Coast.
19. Liam Stocker
Midfielder, 183cm, 83kg, DOB 23/1/00 From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
An excellent second half of the season saw Stocker storm home to take out the TAC Cup's Morrish Medal. He's a hard-bodied, big and strong inside midfielder who kicks the ball well on both feet. He's confident in his ability and averaged 22 disposals a game for the Dragons this year. Stocker has come from a little further back than others given he missed the national carnival with a broken jaw, but he made up for lost time to push himself into first-round contention.
Where does he go? Another who is a chance to end up as a Giant, while Richmond could also have a think about Stocker with their first choice. Melbourne looks a possible home at No.23 if he got that far.
23. Edward McHenry
Mid/Small For, 178cm, 71kg, DOB 13/7/00 From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
McHenry's relentless run and tireless work ethic underpins his game. He's a tough, competitive small forward/midfielder who works up and down the ground and uses his outstanding aerobic base to impact games. He averaged 21 disposals in eight games for the Geelong Falcons, and played a crafty role closer to goal for Vic Country. Can get in the face of opponents and always plays with enthusiasm and spark.
Where does he go? Richmond is interested in McHenry, and their pick 17 would probably be the earliest he could go. Adelaide is keen at No.21, while Melbourne's picks in the 20s will also be a chance.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-16/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-november
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No to Taylor, McHenry or Hill....not what we need.... :thumbsdown
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No to Taylor, McHenry or Hill....not what we need.... :thumbsdown
Unlikely to go for McHendry although he is in the mix. Taylor not in their calculations. Club rated Hill in top 5 at the start of the year but has slid and probably feel he is the best player that might be available at our pick but isn't what we necessarily need..... :shh
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Any of Ely Smith, Stocker, O'Halloran, Valente, McLennan and the hyphen.
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No to Taylor, McHenry or Hill....not what we need.... :thumbsdown
Happy with whoever we select but McHenry would be my selection. This kid has everything and I'm not worried about him being only 178cm.....can play :thumbsup
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Meet Ned McHenry: The draft prospect who goes for casual 30km runs
AFL.com.au
Callum Twomey
Nov 16, 2018
NED McHENRY went for a run this week, which is not an unusual practice for a draft prospect less than 10 days away finding out where he will start his AFL career.
Except this run went for 30km. He left his house in Geelong, headed for nearby suburb Highton and ended up at Barwon Heads on a warm Tuesday night.
"It probably was a bit of a weird thing to do," the Geelong Falcon told AFL.com.au.
"I go for a long run occasionally and I don't take any headphones, I just run. There were stages when I was thinking 'I could stop now, the road is pretty busy' but I didn't really want to stop."
Running underpins McHenry's nature as a footballer: he's a relentless prospect with a work ethic almost unmatched in this year's draft pool.
He won the Yo-Yo test at last month's NAB AFL Draft Combine (the endurance test that replaced the beep) and came sixth in the 2km time trial.
It's partly why some clubs, including Richmond, Adelaide and Melbourne, are considering taking the 178cm McHenry with top-25 picks when names are called at Marvel Stadium on Thursday night and Friday.
He's a tenacious tackler who can play forward, add pressure and create, and he can also move through the midfield and work up and down the ground. Which takes us back to the running.
McHenry wasn't always a dominant runner.
Growing up in Macedon before moving to Geelong in grade six. He spent years seven and eight at Geelong College, before his mum Sam decided it was a good idea for him to cross schools and spend year nine at Geelong Grammar's Mount Timbertop campus three hours out of Geelong.
Timbertop is a full-time boarding campus of the school where the full year level is isolated from family and friends in a bid to improve independence, with a wide outdoors curriculum. It was also where McHenry's running strength came alive.
"It was a crazy year. Footy was big to me so not being able to play that year was something I missed. But reflecting on it, Timbertop was amazing," he said.
Some of the challenges we had to face, like waking up really early and going hiking for six days with everything we needed on our backs, was huge
"We did a lot of running and at the start you think 'How am I going to get through this?' but everyone finds a way. They do a marathon that's about 30km at the end of the year, which you build up to, and I remember coming up that last hill and knowing it was the last time I'd do it. That's when I understood why it was all worth it."
McHenry won that marathon, by the way.
He became obsessed with his running, and was keen to follow a mentor at Geelong Grammar, Ross Hopkins, into completing a 100km surf coast run. Footy got in the way, though, as his Falcons pre-seasons started to take shape.
McHenry went back to Geelong College in year 10, where he has completed his schooling this year, but his running capacity continued to grow. The competitive 18-year-old sees it now as one of his major weapons as a player, knowing he can outwork whoever he's on. He also enjoys the freedom a run brings.
"Sometimes I run to clear my mind and sometimes I run to get my mind busy. I think about everything when I'm out there. I think about some weird stuff. I've got a list on my phone and a hard copy diary of ideas I have, so I might come across them when I'm running and then jot it down," he said.
"I have all kinds of things – ideas for businesses, ideas for inventions, ideas for things I want to do in my life, ideas for my coffee table I want to have when I'm older. I've got a massive list."
The coffee table, for what it's worth, would be see-through and would allow McHenry to see plants and cactus' grow inside it. "I reckon that'd be epic," he said.
He has other ideas. "Also, when I'm older, I once a fortnight want to have someone random over for dinner. It might be like a Thursday every second week, it might be someone I've met down at the newsagents," McHenry said.
"Don't you think that'd be epic? Doing that once a fortnight when you meet someone new in your life. You'd learn cooking with it. It'd be cool."
McHenry is an energetic, on-the-go personality. He's inquisitive and chatty, interested and interesting. He loves to get out on his boat and go fishing and next year is hoping to study a media course. Clubs enjoy his enthusiasm and natural spark, and have seen the impact he has on teammates.
"I've always enjoyed my footy and my personality's come out through that. Everyone's a little bit different. I've always been the more bubbly and positive person," he said.
"I don't know if [clubs] enjoy it. They probably hate it. I really just do try to be myself in interviews. I definitely just try to present as myself and that's just who I am. I don't try to be upbeat every morning, but usually I am excited about it all."
He has reason to be excited at the moment. He recently got a call from the AFL's national talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan asking him to attend the draft next week, and he can't help but wonder about what it would be like to hear his name called by an AFL club.
"I haven't necessarily been the most talented kid as a junior or even this year, but my intensity with my training and energy on and off the field is something I've really tried to bring," he said.
"I had a laugh to 'Shifter' when he was on the phone and he invited me to the draft and he said, 'Who would have thought this two years ago?' And I reckon it's true, in a way. I think I've earned this position to give myself a go."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-16/meet-ned-mchenry-the-draft-prospect-who-goes-for-casual-30km-runs
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* The pick ranges tell us that Riley Collier-Dawkins (12th to 30th) and Liam Stocker (11th to 26th) are two of the hardest players to predict currently.
* Luke Valente is notable as ranked 10th by Champion Data, and no higher than 16th by any of our draft watchers.
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http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31294
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RICHMOND
Dream draft according to Cal Twomey:
A strong midfielder could be the target for the Tigers, bringing Liam Stocker or Xavier Duursma into the equation. They could also add another small forward to their list, with Ian Hill and Ned McHenry on the radar.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-17/what-your-club-needs-at-this-years-draft)
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From BF:
some guy who has mail (taztiger) we will not take stocker at the draft we think he has no tank we have someone else in mind and want Ely smith with our second pick.
Is that you, taz?
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From BF:
some guy who has mail (taztiger) we will not take stocker at the draft we think he has no tank we have someone else in mind and want Ely smith with our second pick.
If that you, taz?
guilty
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From BF:
some guy who has mail (taztiger) we will not take stocker at the draft we think he has no tank we have someone else in mind and want Ely smith with our second pick.
Is that you, taz?
guilty
All good. Means it's reliable info :thumbsup.
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That is not what Matt Clarke said exactly the other night.... :shh
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DRAFT NEEDS
The Tigers made great use of their first pick last season, landing lively forward Jack Higgins at pick 17. The club have exactly the same selection this time around but they won't use it on a small forward, with a midfielder the more likely target, having used their first selection in four of the past five national drafts to land Higgins, Shai Bolton, Dan Rioli and Ben Lennon.
Hard-at-it midfielder Liam Stocker would be a good selection and become the second consecutive Morrish Medal winner picked by the Tigers at 17 if they went down that track. Stocker would be a safe pick and add depth to the Tigers' inside game where he could learn off some of the best in the business, while Riley Collier-Dawkins would be a good choice if still available. He showed his class with the Oakleigh Chargers in the finals, while Ian Hill would be a speculative selection with the creative, skilful midfielder likely to need some time to flourish.
It's also time for the Tigers to build some depth among the tall defenders with Alex Rance and David Astbury's resilience in recent seasons buying the Tigers some time. Western Australia's Damon Greaves could be tempting at pick 37, although the Tigers might dive in even later to get a back to develop such as Gippsland Power's Kyle Reid or the Eastern Ranges' James Blanck.
Richmond have also committed to picking up premiership forward Jacob Townsend as a rookie after he was delisted last month.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-club-by-club-guide-part-two-20181116-p50gjm.html
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Garthwaite, Balta and Miller in reserve with grimes, broad and to a lesser extent vlastuin all being able to fill a kpd spot.
Would draft inside minds, rucks, outside runners (wings, half back flankers) and kpf all before thinking about kpd.
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The website AFL Draft Central has done an 'Inside Footy' type draft guide with summaries of about 200 potential draftees.
https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/AFL-Draft-Central-2018-Draft-Guide.pdf (https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/AFL-Draft-Central-2018-Draft-Guide.pdf)
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Buckenara's top 50 draft list has Hill at 17 and Jacob Kennerley at 37.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-draft-2018-gary-buckenara-names-his-top-50-draft-prospects/news-story/fed0b035e5482fd13b98537578ea559a
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The Roar website has us getting Stocker at our first pick in their mock draft.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/11/19/afl-mock-draft-2018-top-30/
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Balmey will be presenting our jumper to our first pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-19/who-will-present-your-clubs-jumper-to-top-draftee
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Our picks have been finalised.
We'll have six picks: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74 & 88.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/final-draft-order-all-of-your-clubs-picks
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Balmey will be presenting our jumper to our first pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-19/who-will-present-your-clubs-jumper-to-top-draftee
maybe not, I heard him on Friday trying to convince Flea to do it
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Our picks have been finalised.
We'll have six picks: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74 & 88.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/final-draft-order-all-of-your-clubs-picks
Finalised?
With live trading and father and sons and academy picks our position will be fluid
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Our picks have been finalised.
We'll have six picks: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74 & 88.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/final-draft-order-all-of-your-clubs-picks
How many we using tho draft night ?.
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Hartley said we'll probably be taking 4 players in the national draft on the last Talking Tigers podcast.... :shh
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Ely Smith just got a last minute invite todraft night sounds lkike he's this year's late bolter.... :shh
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Ely Smith just got a last minute invite todraft night sounds lkike he's this year's late bolter.... :shh
Wont be getting him then. Clarke thought he had too many deficiencies when I asked specifically about him. Unless I convinced him otherwise..... :shh
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Francis Clarke.... >:(
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The Herald-Sun's phantom draft has us taking Stocker.
But then they also say:
Hawthorn is circling Liam Stocker and Jack Gunston-clone Noah Gown late in the draft order.
The Hawks are slated to enter the draft at No.53 and would have to trade their way up the order to land Stocker, who is tipped to go in the top 25.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/early-phantom-draft-adelaide-set-to-spoil-collingwoods-draft-plans/news-story/e959b32c8f4210ed49cacadcf2660c6a
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Callum Twomey on the AFL website also has us taking Stocker.
He also links us to McHenry, Hill and Sturt.
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/20PhantomDraftRich.jpg)
LIAM STOCKER
POS: Midfielder
Ht 183cm, Wt 83kg, DOB 23/1/00
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Stocker won the Morrish Medal in the TAC Cup after storming home in the back end of the season, having missed the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with a broken jaw. He's a big and strong midfielder who is great at the stoppages, a nice kick on both feet and will back himself to play plenty of senior footy next year. An articulate, confident character who might have been ranked a little higher if not for his interrupted first half of the season. The Tigers lost some depth in the midfield in the Trade Period and bringing in another ball-winner could be a priority.
If not him? The Tigers will look at Ned McHenry if he's there, while Ian Hill is also right in the frame if available. His ability may be too hard to pass up even if he's not exactly what the Tigers are after. Sam Sturt is a possibility although unlikely.
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/stocker201118.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/callum-twomeys-2018-phantom-draft
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AFL Draft preview: Richmond
November 20, 2018
by Peter Williams
afldraftcentral.com.au
THE 2017 premiers bowed out in disappointing circumstances in the preliminary final to a red-hot Collingwood, but then got the man they were after in Gold Coast’s Tom Lynch to boost the key forward stocks at the club. Richmond was often beaten at the stoppages, so big-bodied inside midfielders are the main priority at this year’s draft, as well as some depth on the outside, and likely another ruck.
List needs:
Big-bodied inside midfielder/s
Ruck
Outside midfielder depth
Draft Picks: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74, 92
Richmond is a fairly settled side heading into the AFL Draft but there are plenty of names being linked to the Tigers with their first selection. Expect it to be best available, though if that happens to be an inside midfielder, all the better. Liam Stocker seems to be the name mostly linked to Richmond at pick 17, while Luke Valente could be a chance given the pick is likely to be pushed beyond 20 with bids coming into play. With a late draft invitation today, Ely Smith could be the late bolter who Richmond turn to on the night. Perhaps the Tigers might opt for a more rounded Xavier Duursma, or they might look to the leadership of Ian Hill despite the need for bigger bodies. Do not be shocked if someone like a Richmond pulls the trigger on West Australian, Luke Foley, though with Stocker likely on the board, Richmond would be expected to opt for the Sandringham midfielder. Ned McHenry or Sam Sturt are others who are expected to be available and could be highly rated by the club.
With pick 37, there are likely to be plenty of inside midfielders available should the Tigers hold off on their round one selection. Or they could double dip taking Stocker, then selecting Calder Cannons co-captain, Jack Bytel with this selection. James Rowbottom could be there, although Essendon have strong interest in him at pick 34. Small in stature but bigger in body size, inside bulls Tom Joyce or Tom Lewis might come into consideration knowing neither will be there at Richmond’s next pick. Jack Ross is another player who the Tigers might look at as a more balanced option who is still more developed than most others.
With their remaining selections, expect the Tigers to take best available, which in our Phantom Draft, was Tom McKenzie, Harry Reynolds and Brayden Ham, all of whom are very different players and offer different skillsets for the Tigers. At these late picks it is hard to pick who will be there, but they could consider ruck, Riley Bowman potentially if he is still on the board, or if they are looking for some outside run and kicking, perhaps Gippsland Power’s Matthew McGannon, or Western Australia’s Damon Greaves. In the forward half, Tyron Smallwood or Angus Hanrahan might come into the Tigers’ thinking, or they could take a mature-age ruck in Darcy Fort potentially.
https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/2018/11/20/afl-draft-preview-richmond/
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Jack Bytel as a round two pick would be a good pick. A risk but a good pick. I think I remember him as being a potential top 10 a year ago.
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I'm tipping Valente for our first pick.
We love our U/18 SA captains
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I am tipping Ian Hill or Ned McHenry as pick one if still available
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Cripps like big-bodied midfielder Collier-Dawkins. Possibly gone before our pick though.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-21/i-can-see-how-its-not-typical-draft-prospects-family-tale
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Our picks have been finalised.
We'll have six picks: 17, 37, 64, 68, 74 & 88.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/final-draft-order-all-of-your-clubs-picks
How many we using tho draft night ?.
Hartley said we'll probably be taking 4 players in the national draft on the last Talking Tigers podcast.... :shh
Recruiting Weller means we will no longer have pick 88.
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List wise, we are going in at 38-6 rather than 40-4 according to the club.
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Forget what I said :booboo.
Weller becomes a Category A rookie listed player via the SSP rather than onto our senior list. So we still have pick 88 but if we go 38-6 as you say YaBB then we will use only 4 picks in the draft as we currently have 34 senior listed players.
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Jack Bytel as a round two pick would be a good pick. A risk but a good pick. I think I remember him as being a potential top 10 a year ago.
Already having back problems....pass... :shh
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Be rapt with any of Smith/LCD/O'Halloran and quite happy with Stocker or Valente , not so happy McHenry, midgets or flankers...and Curtis Taylor GTFO - not even with our second.. :thumbsdown
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Both the Herald-Sun and The Age have us going for Stocker in their respective phantom drafts:
21. RICHMOND — Liam Stocker (Sandringham Dragons)
183cm, 83kg midfielder
Tigers need to add to their midfield stocks and Stocker is a strong and accomplished ballwinner. Needs to build tank.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2018-sam-landsberger-and-jay-clark-predict-how-the-first-round-will-unfold/news-story/18de94c91a9c1896d16f70226ce387c6
20. RICHMOND
Liam Stocker (midfielder) 183cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons
Supreme competitor Stocker won the Morrish Medal after an excellent year for the Dragons despite missing the national championships due to injury. Ely Smith has been invited to the draft and is considered an outside chance here, while the Tigers are believed to like McHenry a lot.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/2018-afl-draft-first-round-predictions-20181121-p50hhl.html
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Twomey's late mail also has us going for Stocker.
LATE MAIL TOP 30
Pick 1 – Carlton – Sam Walsh
Pick 2 – Gold Coast – Jack Lukosius
Pick 3 – Gold Coast – Izak Rankine
Pick 4 – St Kilda – Max King
Pick 5 – Port Adelaide – Connor Rozee
Pick 6 – Gold Coast – Ben King
Pick 7 – Western Bulldogs – Bailey Smith
Pick 8 – Sydney (matching Adelaide's bid) – Nick Blakey
Pick 9 – North Melbourne (matching Adelaide's bid) – Tarryn Thomas
Pick 10 – Adelaide – Jye Caldwell
Pick 11 – Greater Western Sydney – Jackson Hately
Pick 12 – Port Adelaide – Jordan Clark
Pick 13 – Greater Western Sydney – Riley Collier-Dawkins
Pick 14 – Geelong – Chayce Jones
Pick 15 – Collingwood (matching Adelaide's bid) – Isaac Quaynor
Pick 16 – Adelaide – Zak Butters
Pick 17 – Fremantle – Ian Hill
Pick 18 – Port Adelaide – Xavier Duursma
Pick 19 – Adelaide – Ned McHenry
Pick 20 – Richmond – Liam Stocker
Pick 21 – Brisbane Lions – Ely Smith
Pick 22 – Greater Western Sydney – Sam Sturt
Pick 23 – West Coast – Curtis Taylor
Pick 24 – Greater Western Sydney (matching Adelaide's bid) – Kieren Briggs
Pick 25 – Collingwood (matching Adelaide's bid) – Will Kelly
Pick 26 – Adelaide – Luke Valente
Pick 27 – West Coast – Luke Foley
Pick 28 – Western Bulldogs (matching Melbourne's bid) – Rhylee West
Pick 29 – Melbourne – Xavier O'Halloran
Pick 30 – Gold Coast – Jez McLennan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-21/callum-twomeys-late-mail
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So Adelaide will be the only team bidding on players??
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Smith goes the pick right after ours..... :facepalm
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how is our pick seventeen bouncing around to pick 20 and 21... I have no idea wtf is going on are they saying we will trade it?
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how is our pick seventeen bouncing around to pick 20 and 21... I have no idea wtf is going on are they saying we will trade it?
Everytime there's a bid for a F/S or academy player then everyone else gets pushed down a spot in the draft. There's expected to be 3-4 bids before our first pick so our first pick could end up at 20 or 21.
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how is our pick seventeen bouncing around to pick 20 and 21... I have no idea wtf is going on are they saying we will trade it?
It's because of the bidding process for Academy players. If a club picks another team's Academy player at say pick 8 and the other team bids on it and has the necessary number of points, they then move their first pick to pick 8 and every one else is pushed down the order. As Adelaide has several picks in the top 20, it will be up to them to make the bids at their pick.If nobody picks these guys, they slip down and can be obtained with a clubs 2nd pick or later and so it's in every ones interest to bid for players and force the other club to use high picks on them. I hope that makes sense.
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https://twitter.com/FOXFootyLive/status/1065485521365819392
:shh :pray :shh
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Buckenara has Bailey Smith as his 6th best player in the draft.
Top 50: Buckenara’s mega draft preview
THIS year’s draft has been touted as the next “super draft” and while it would be unfair to place such big expectations on the draft class, the talent available in the first round in particular is especially strong.
I’ve watched these players since they were 16 and tracked them throughout this year during the various state-based competitions, the under-18 national championships and their testing at the draft combine.
The 2018 draft should produce a number of quality midfielders for the future as it’s especially strong for mid-sized onballers — both inside and outside players — while there are a number of talented halfbacks available. The number of nice midfielders and defenders should extend into the later rounds of the draft, where I expect some gems to be unearthed.
At the top end of the draft there are a few very nice key position players but the depth of talent available in that area does taper off.
For clubs looking for ruckmen, however, the news isn’t as good. There aren’t many options available so clubs will likely need to look to state leagues or recycled players to bolster ruck stocks for 2019.
17. Hill
18. Taylor
19. Stocker
20. West (F/S Dogs)
21. Valente
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-draft-2018-gary-buckenara-names-his-top-50-draft-prospects/news-story/fed0b035e5482fd13b98537578ea559a
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https://twitter.com/FOXFootyLive/status/1065485521365819392
:shh :pray :shh
RICHMOND has launched an audacious play to move seven spots up the AFL draft order to secure one of the best midfielders in the 2018 pool.
With live trading introduced for the first time this year, the Tigers are believed to be considering a deal in order to secure Vic Metro MVP Bailey Smith.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the Tigers are monitoring a situation that could see the midfielder slip down to Port Adelaide’s Pick 10, which may open the door for the Tigers to jump up the draft order.
Richmond currently holds Pick 17 and has the capability to trade its future first-round pick. A deal would likely only get done if the Tigers could satisfy the Power and if the Power weren’t locked in to the Sandringham Dragons leader with their second pick.
There is belief around the industry that the key to unlocking such a deal is the first move between the GWS Giants and the Western Bulldogs.
Both clubs are set to orchestrate a pick swap, which would see the Giants trade up to secure Pick 7 and the Bulldogs trade back to either Pick 9 or 11.
If it is the latter, the Tigers would elect to swoop and try and do a deal with the Power to take Smith.
It’s understood the Giants have put in ample time and research into Smith, who’s one of the draft class’ most dedicated trainers and top midfield prospects.
But it’s also believed the Giants are eyeing off Vic Country midfielder Jye Caldwell, who could be available at Pick 7, with several sources suggesting the top six is likely locked in.
Adelaide has also been fans of Caldwell, but may look to grab Tasmanian on-baller Chayce Jones with Pick 8.
The Western Bulldogs would be more likely to want to grab Pick 9 rather than 11, not leaving the Tigers an opportunity to deal with the Power.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2018-afl-draft-live-updates-order-results/news-story/465f2ca856c7c93f0db4c4372cf7c11b
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Off we go.
Carlton up first. In this format they get 5 minutes to decide.
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1. Carlton - Sam Walsh
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If each club takes its 5 minute allotment and they interview each kid then the first round will take 3 hours.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/3/31/Homer-twiddle-thumb.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150209103533)
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2. Gold Coast - Jack Lukosius
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3. Gold Coast - Izak Rankine
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4. St Kilda - Max King
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5. Port Adelaide - Connor Rozee
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6. Gold Coast - Ben King
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The expected ones are out of the way.
Dogs are next. Some phantom drafts have them picking Bailey Smith who is the kid we're interested in.
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7. Bulldogs - Bailey Smith
Well that's the end of the idea of us trading for pick 10 to try and get him.
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First live trade of picks:
Swans have traded pick 26 for the Eagles' 2019 third round pick.
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Pretty much exactly how Twomey had predicted....
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I wonder if we will now try to trade picks 17 & 37 for the Eagles (20 or 22) & 26 to get two picks in the 20s?
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Crows have selected Tarryn Thomas.
Now up to North to match the bid.
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North have matched the bid.
8. North - Tarryn Thomas
Our first pick moves down one to 18.
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9. Adelaide - Chayce Jones
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GWS have selected Nick Blakey.
Now up to the Swans to match it.
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Bid matched.
10. Sydney - Nick Blakey
Our first pick moves down one more to 19.
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2018 Top 10
1. Carlton - Sam Walsh
2. Gold Coast - Jack Lukosius
3. Gold Coast - Izak Rankine
4. St Kilda - Max King
5. Port Adelaide - Connor Rozee
6. Gold Coast - Ben King
7. W.Bulldogs - Bailey Smith
8. North Melb. - Tarryn Thomas (F/S matched bid)
9. Adelaide - Chayce Jones
10. Sydney - Nick Blakey (F/S matched bid)
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So with 2 bids matched we won't see our pick tonight?
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11. GWS - Jye Caldwell
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So with 2 bids matched we won't see our pick tonight?
I thought they are doing the full first round tonight.
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Swans have traded back the 2019 3rd round pick to the Eagles for pick 24.
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Picks 19 & 39 for the Eagles 22 & 28?
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12. Port Adelaide - Zak Butters
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Interesting that Port didn't go for the homegrown Hately.
GWS have bid for Isaac Quaynor.
Up to the Pies to match it.
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So with 2 bids matched we won't see our pick tonight?
I thought they are doing the full first round tonight.
Yes but the first round ends at pick 18 and because of the two matched bids so far our first pick is currently 19. :shh
EDIT:Now 20.
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Bid matched.
13. Collingwood - Isaac Quaynor
Our first pick now down to 20.
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So with 2 bids matched we won't see our pick tonight?
I thought they are doing the full first round tonight.
Yes but the first round ends at pick 18 and because of the two matched bids so far our first pick is currently 20. :shh
EDIT:Now 21.
The bids don't affect the first round classification AFAIK.
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14. GWS - Jackson Hately
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Jordan Clark still on the board. Some phantom drafts had him going top 10.
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Eagles are looking to trade up.
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15. Geelong - Jordan Clark
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2018 Top 15
1. Carlton - Sam Walsh
2. Gold Coast - Jack Lukosius
3. Gold Coast - Izak Rankine
4. St Kilda - Max King
5. Port Adelaide - Connor Rozee
6. Gold Coast - Ben King
7. W.Bulldogs - Bailey Smith
8. North Melb. - Tarryn Thomas (F/S matched bid)
9. Adelaide - Chayce Jones
10. Sydney - Nick Blakey (F/S matched bid)
11. GWS - Jye Caldwell
12. Port Adelaide - Zak Butters
13. Collingwood - Isaac Quaynor (Academy matched bid)
14. GWS - Jackson Hately
15. Geelong - Jordan Clark
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16. Adelaide - Ned McHenry
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whats this clubs matching then we move down the order?
how does that work?
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Not fussed on missing McHenry but I fear this could put Curtis Taylor in the frame... :thumbsdown
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Collier-Dawkins still on the board.
Freo may go for homegrown Hill?
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3 picks left
Stocker, valente and RCD still available. Will valente make
It past both SA clubs?
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whats this clubs matching then we move down the order?
how does that work?
The clubs matching F/S or Academy bids use lower picks to reach the points value of the pick of the bid. So they lose they later picks but everyone else moves down one for each bid matched. Hope that makes sense, FH.
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17. Fremantle - Sam Sturt.
That's a surprise.
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whats this clubs matching then we move down the order?
how does that work?
The clubs matching F/S or Academy bids use lower picks to reach the points value of the pick of the bid. So they lose they later picks but everyone else moves down one for each bid matched. Hope that makes sense, FH.
gotcha. Thanks
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So looks like the first round doesn't count bids and we will see our first pick tonight... :clapping
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17. Fremantle - Sam Sturt.
That's a surprise.
Do not understand this pick.
Maybe Hill's rumoured off field behaviour hasputthem off?
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This making each club take the full 5 minutes for their pick has knobs on it.
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18. Port Adelaide - Xavier Duursma
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Do we take Hill if available?
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Do we take Hill if available?
Do we need him with our current list. I think no
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One to go before ours (Adelaide).
Collier-Dawkins, Stocker and Valente still on the board.
Will the Crows go homegrown (Valente) or will they surprise and choose Hill who is also still available.
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Do we take Hill if available?
Do we need him with our current list. I think no
I'd say no too, although plenty in WA think he is a matchwinner at AFL level.
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Do we take Hill if available?
Do we need him with our current list. I think no
I'd say no too, although plenty in WA think he is a matchwinner at AFL level.
I'm guessing it'll depend if we are looking for 2019 or choosing someone for the future.
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Adelaide has traded the pick to Carlton.
19. Carlton - Liam Stocker.
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Pipped at the post if we wanted Stocker.
Still Collier-Dawkins and Valente on the board.
We're next.
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Wow, I reckon Carlton have paid big for that pick.
Traded a future first to Adelaide. Likely to be a top 4 pick!
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Adelaide has traded the pick to Carlton.
19. Carlton - Liam Stocker.
Adelaide just got potentially pick 1 next year or at the very least top 3 pick for 19 and adelaides first next year.....
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Wow, I reckon Carlton have paid big for that pick.
Traded a future first to Adelaide. Likely to be a top 4 pick!
Talk about going all in.
The Blues must rate Stocker equivalent to a top 4 pick next year :o.
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Some good players available to us now.
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Dorkins
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Dio will be happy
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TWO MUMS!!!! YESSSS!!!! :clapping :gotigers :clapping :dancing :dancing :dancing
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Wow, I reckon Carlton have paid big for that pick.
Traded a future first to Adelaide. Likely to be a top 4 pick!
Talk about going all in.
The Blues must rate Stocker equivalent to a top 4 pick next year :o.
Not quite, they got Adelaide's future first rounder in return as well.
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21. Brisbane - Ely Smith
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22. GWS - Xavier O'Halloran
That's the end of the first round. The rest of the draft tomorrow.
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If WCE don't grab Hill, it will really say something about his slide.
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Wow, I reckon Carlton have paid big for that pick.
Traded a future first to Adelaide. Likely to be a top 4 pick!
Talk about going all in.
The Blues must rate Stocker equivalent to a top 4 pick next year :o.
Not quite, they got Adelaide's future first rounder in return as well.
Cheers, Slipper. So they'll be hoping for Tex and co. to have another shocker on the bus in 2019 ;D.
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whens our next pick?
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Adelaide top 4
Carlton bottom 4
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Would have been interesting if sticker was still available - do you think we would have taken him over RCD?
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Was excruciating watching the 5 mins go by for each pick. Can see why they to separate the rest of the picks!!. It's not a great tv product.
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Adelaide top 4
Carlton bottom 4
So if you assume this Adel have traded Pick 19 this year for Pick 1-4 next year.
Carlton get Pick 19 this year and pick 14-18 next year for Pick 1-4 next year.
Hard to evaluate. Two late first round picks for a high first round pick.The more I think about the more I am unsure who got the best deal. That probably means it was a even trade.
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I was worried they might go for Hill
Jackson would have in the past
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Hackson would've definitely picked Taylor. :shh
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Our recruiting crew in the bunker tonight:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsmGHfBVsAEQkmk.jpg)
Source: RFC twitter
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Day 2 about to start.
Eagles up first with pick 23.
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Suns trade Picks 27 + 32 to the Eagles for Pick 23 and a 2019 5th Rounder to start the day.
Very keen to land McLennan evidently.
https://twitter.com/BenCrawford__
23. Gold Coast - Jez McLennan
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Second trade of the day
Adelaide trade pick 24 & 2019 5th rounder to the Giants for pick 28 & 2019 second rounder.
24. GWS - Ian Hill
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25. Sydney - James Rowbottom
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Melbourne have bid for Doggie's F/S Rhylee West.
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Bid matched.
26. Bulldogs - Rhylee West (F/S)
Our next pick moves down one.
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27. Melbourne - Tom Sparrow
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Another trade of picks:
Dogs receive: picks 30 and 57.
Fremantle receive: picks 34 and 41.
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28. West Coast - Xavier O'Neill
Crows have made a bid for Pies' F/S Will Kelly.
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Bid matched.
29. Collingwood - Will Kelly (F/S)
Our next pick moves another spot down. Now at 42.
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30. Adelaide - Will Hamill
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31. West Coast - Luke Foley
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32. Fremantle - Luke Valente
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First ten gone today:
23. Gold Coast - Jez McLennan
24. GWS - Ian Hill
25. Sydney - James Rowbottom
26. Bulldogs - Rhylee West (F/S matched bid)
27. Melbourne - Tom Sparrow
28. West Coast - Xavier O'Neill
29. Collingwood - Will Kelly (F/S matched bid)
30. Adelaide - Will Hamill
31. West Coast - Luke Foley
32. Fremantle - Luke Valente
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33. Melbourne - James Jordan
One out of nowhere.
Eagles have made a bid for Giants' academy player Keiran Briggs.
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Bid matched.
34. GWS - Keiran Briggs (Academy)
Our next pick moves down again.
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North Melbourne has traded pick 51 to St Kilda for a 2019 third-round selection.
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35. West Coast - Bailey Williams
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36. Brisbane - Thomas Berry
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37. Bulldogs - Laitham Vandermeer
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Essendon has made a bid for Hawthorn's academy player Irving Mosquito.
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Hawks haven't matched it.
38. Essendon - Irving Mosquito
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Two to go before us at 41.
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Pick 39 | @WestCoastEagles have matched @brisbanelions' bid for Jarrod Cameron. They also gain pick 69 and lose picks 54 and 67.
39. West Coast - Jarrod Cameron
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40. Brisbane - Tom Joyce
One more before us at 42.
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41. St Kilda - Jack Bytel
We're next.
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We've bid on Brisbane's academy player Connor McFadyen.
Matched by Brisbane.
42. Brisbane - Connor McFadyen (Academy)
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We get another go at 43.
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43. Richmond - Jack Ross (see other thread)
44. Sydney - Justin McInerney
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46. North - Curtis Taylor
47. St Kilda - Matthew Parker
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48. Geelong - Ben Jarvis
49. North - Bailey Scott (F/S matched bid)
50. Geelong - Jacob Kennerley
51. Sydney - Zak Foot
52. Hawthorn - Jacob Koschitzke
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53. Melbourne - Aaron Nietschke
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54. St Kilda - Nick Hind
55. Brisbane - Noah Answerth
2 to go before our next pick (58).
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That's the end of Round 3.
Round 4 coming up:
56. Melbourne
57. Fremantle
58. Richmond
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56. Melbourne - Marty Hore
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57. Fremantle - Lachlan Schultz
We're next.
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58. Richmond - Fraser Turner (see other thread)
We're gone for 3 mids. No ruck yet.
59. Fremantle - Brett Bewley
60. Essendon - Noah Gown
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LIVE TRADE | @stkildafc lose pick 61 and gain two round 4 2019 picks. @GWSGIANTS get pick 61 and lose two round 4 2019 picks.
61. GWS - Connor Idun
62. Richmond - Luke English
Make that 4 mids.
LIVE TRADE | @Adelaide_FC get pick 64 and lose pick 67 and a round 5 2019 pick. @CarltonFC lose pick 64 and gain pick 67 and a round 5 2019 pick.
LIVE TRADE | @CollingwoodFC lose pick 63 and a round 5 2019 pick and get a round 4 2019 pick. @HawthornFC get pick 63 and a round 5 2019 pick and lose a round 4 2019 pick.
63. Hawthorn - Mathew Walker (Giants didn't match bid)
64. Adelaide - Lachlan Sholl
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65. Geelong - Darcy Fort
I think two more to go to our next pick (68).
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66. Carlton - Finbar O’Dwyer
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I (& Foxsports live site) was wrong. 68 isn't our pick.
LIVE TRADE | @CarltonFC lose pick 67 and get a round 4 2019 pick as well as pick 75. @stkildafc lose a round 4 2019 pick and pick 75. They receive pick 67.
67. St Kilda - Robert Young
68. Geelong - Jake Tarca
69. West Coast - passed.
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Did we also pass?
69. North - Joel Crocker
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We traded pick 68 to Geelong for their 2019 4th rounder.
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70. Carlton - Ben Silvagni
Bulldogs, North & Blues have all passed their next picks.
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Foxsports has our next pick at 82.
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71. Gold Coast - Caleb Graham
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Adelaide pass.
72. Essendon - Brayden Ham
73. Port Adelaide - Riley Grundy
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74. Geelong - Oscar Brownless (F/S)
Swans & Giants have passed.
Our pick into 77 I think now.
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Hawks have passed as well.
75. Melbourne - Toby Bedford
We're next.
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We've passed at 76.
So that's all for us.
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Essendon have passed.
76. Port Adelaide - Boyd Woodcock
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Catch-up: We traded pick 68 so that's why we didn't have it.
Geelong, Melbourne, Carlton and Suns have all passed.
We've got the next pick according to SEN even though we passed before.
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We've passed again. So that's definitely it for us.
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77. Collingwood - Atunaisa Bosenavulagi (Academy)
Melbourne and us pass again.
Every club left (including us - one more pick) has already passed at least once. So you'd expect that's the end of the National draft.
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Hartley said we would only be taking four in the main draft and no mature age players and that's how its panned out. :shh
Rookie draft should be interesting 4 spots after Weller & Townsend , 3 if we re-rookie Chol.,,,got a feeling we might leave a spot free for the mid-season draft... :shh :shh
Quality state leaguers like Gibbons, Lentini, Grigg, Pickett all still available...Jordan Sweet if we dont re-rookie Chol.. and big sliders like Stack, Grundy , Lewis and Podjhalski or however you spell it.... :shh :shh :shh
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78. Bulldogs - William Hayes (Footscray VFL)
That's definitely the end of the National draft.
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Hartley said we would only be taking four in the main draft and no mature age players and that's how its panned out. :shh
Rookie draft should be interesting 4 spots after Weller & Townsend , 3 if we re-rookie Chol.,,,got a feeling we might leave a spot free for the mid-season draft... :shh :shh
Quality state leaguers like Gibbons, Lentini, Grigg, Pickett all still available...Jordan Sweet if we dont re-rookie Chol.. and big sliders like Stack, Grundy , Lewis and Podjhalski or however you spell it.... :shh :shh :shh
you are forgetting Baker on rookie list, we can
Have 6 on Cat A Rookie list - Already have Bakes & Weller & possibly Towner & Marbs so max 2 more
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3 on Cat B - Already have Derek Smith so max another 2
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For some reason I thought Baker git upgraded when Moore did....
Surpised the likes of Grundy, Stack, Podhalski & Lewis didn't even get rookied...
...and State Leaguers that were being highly rated this year like Grigg, Gibbons, Lentini, Pickett, Rippon, Lok abd West Coast GF hero Woodward didn't get a gig either.... :shh
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I still reckon on what I have seen that Stack is a better prospect than Hill.
Also am suprised that Jye Bolton didn't get picked up by Gold Coast. Reckon they could have done with a nice big bodied bloke to go into the middle, and he is a dual Sandover medallist.
I'd have liked us to have picked up Tyron Smallwood as a rookie. Lot of upside.
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For some reason I thought Baker git upgraded when Moore did....
Surpised the likes of Grundy, Stack, Podhalski & Lewis didn't even get rookied...
...and State Leaguers that were being highly rated this year like Grigg, Gibbons, Lentini, Pickett, Rippon, Lok abd West Coast GF hero Woodward didn't get a gig either.... :shh
Grundy was selected by Port in the main draft.
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Huh so he was.....pick 73 ...after our last pick.....no wonder I missed it .... :shh
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Gotta pay this effort from old mate tigs over at BF:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-draft-watch-depth-chart-in-op.1201460/page-121#post-58920494
:clapping :bow :clapping
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From watching the clips of our first 3 picked, I would say 3 pretty solid safish picks. Ross looks the most ready for AFL IMO and not just on size and body shape.
No real weapons to see at this stage but you never know. (I though the same about Vlastuin when we first drafted him and how wrong I was- Star!!)
I still hate seeing FJ anywhere near the club. I wish the old fool would FRO.
Also wrapped that Townsend is still a Tiger but think Chol and even more so Aarts are extremely lucky. Think we could have better there.
Anyway looking forward to seeing them all develop over the next 4 or so months during preseason.
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Was initially annoyed we didn't trade back into the top 30-40 but not so much now...and maybe we tried but were gazumped - who knows... :shh
RCD made the draft and the off-season for me....club took my first choice with it frst pick for once.....as stoked -as the kids woulds say- about it as getting Lynch, maybe even moreso.... :shh
Can't say Ross was in any of my pre-draft thoughts but he looks the right size & AFL ready... :shh
English was a steal..... :clapping
Fitter and Turner is a clearly wake up call to Menadue and possibly Markov too .....personally I would've gone Darcy Fort with this pick....and delisated Soldo and got Grundy - the absolute steal of the draft IMO (though we probably could've dome that and still picked Thomas or even an earlier pick had either Menadue been traded or delisted or Grigg retired like they should've been).. ..Grundy, Balta & Gathwaite would've made the transition from Rance, Grimes & Astbury seemless... :shh
Rookie draft - would've gone Lentini, Gibbons, Stack or at least Mannagh if we insisted on drafting from within over Aarts or even Sweet for more ruck depth and Mitch Grigg over Weller.... :shh
p.s. Carlton not realising we were only taking Stocker because we assumed RCD wouldn't still be there - gold! :clapping :shh
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p.s. Carlton not realising we were only taking Stocker because we assumed RCD wouldn't still be there - gold! :clapping :shh
Makes a good story because it hurts the Blues but...…...not sure if it is actual true.
I have it from a good source that West Coast forced this trade.
Apparently Stocker was firmly in the Eagles sights. Both the Eagles and Carlton knew that the Tigers would grab RCD if he was available. It is no doubt true that the Tigers didn't think he would last to our pick.
When it became apparent that RCD would be available to the Tigers, the Blues acted. The couldn't get a trade done with the Tigers, who were not prepared to miss on RCD. Ditto the Lions who wanted Smith and wouldn't trade. The Eagles deal with GWS included a commitment that the Giants would not take Stocker, so the Eagles were set to pounce with pick 23.
So Adelaide got the lollies from the Blues. The Eagles then traded down with GC, who badly wanted McLennan.
The Eagles, apparently, did not have that great of a draft as per what they hoped to achieve. They did some live trading early to try and get a pick in the 11-15 range, but couldn't get it done. Not sure who their target at that stage was. They missed on Stocker as well.
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Carlton thought Balmey was really upset that they beat us to Stocker
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We also had 12 players who we knew wouldn't get to us. Jordan Clark was the last one drafted. He went to Geelong.
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We also had 12 players who we knew wouldn't get to us. Jordan Clark was the last one drafted. He went to Geelong.
I think you will find that of the 12 players that we knew wouldnt get to us, RCD was one of those 12, and he did.
RCD was a huge surprise that he lasted.
This is FACT
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We also had 12 players who we knew wouldn't get to us. Jordan Clark was the last one drafted. He went to Geelong.
I think you will find that of the 12 players that we knew wouldnt get to us, RCD was one of those 12, and he did.
RCD was a huge surprise that he lasted.
This is FACT
Incorrect. RCD was in the next batch of 13 players who were a possibility of being drafted. However, Matt Clarke didn't think he would get to us and felt Stocker and a few others would. So he rated RCD higher than Stocker. He felt Stocker needed to work a lot on his running.
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We also had 12 players who we knew wouldn't get to us. Jordan Clark was the last one drafted. He went to Geelong.
I think you will find that of the 12 players that we knew wouldnt get to us, RCD was one of those 12, and he did.
RCD was a huge surprise that he lasted.
This is FACT
Incorrect. RCD was in the next batch of 13 players who were a possibility of being drafted. However, Matt Clarke didn't think he would get to us and felt Stocker and a few others would. So he rated RCD higher than Stocker. He felt Stocker needed to work a lot on his running.
So RFC had RCD rated somewhere between 13 - ?
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Probably 13 to 15.
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Probably 13 to 15.
Excellent. Thank you!
Anything else you can tell us about our preferences? We're we as hot on Bytel as some people are suggesting? And lastly any commentary on Bailey Williams?
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Probably 13 to 15.
Excellent. Thank you!
Anything else you can tell us about our preferences? We're we as hot on Bytel as some people are suggesting? And lastly any commentary on Bailey Williams?
There was very little discussion on draft picks past round 1. I asked about Ely Smith and Clarke said he thought that he may go anywhere between 30 and 50. This is before Brisbane asked him to be invited to the 1st round draft night.
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Probably 13 to 15.
Excellent. Thank you!
Anything else you can tell us about our preferences? We're we as hot on Bytel as some people are suggesting? And lastly any commentary on Bailey Williams?
There was very little discussion on draft picks past round 1. I asked about Ely Smith and Clarke said he thought that he may go anywhere between 30 and 50. This is before Brisbane asked him to be invited to the 1st round draft night.
Cheers Y&B. Appreciate you opening the vault a little.
From your perspective who do you think the club expected to draft with our first pick?
Do you think we had
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Probably 13 to 15.
Excellent. Thank you!
Anything else you can tell us about our preferences? We're we as hot on Bytel as some people are suggesting? And lastly any commentary on Bailey Williams?
There was very little discussion on draft picks past round 1. I asked about Ely Smith and Clarke said he thought that he may go anywhere between 30 and 50. This is before Brisbane asked him to be invited to the 1st round draft night.
Cheers Y&B. Appreciate you opening the vault a little.
From your perspective who do you think the club expected to draft with our first pick?
Do you think we had
Realistically they were hoping RCD would slide but weren't hopeful. They also had Hately up high and possibly gettable but again unlikely to get to them. The rest included Valente (great character and leadership), Stocker obviously, Briggs (GWS academy and thus unlikely), Hill (not what they wanted although rated very highly), Sam Sturt and a few others like McHendry.
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CARLTON draftee Liam Stocker recently described a "confronting" interview with Richmond, where the Tigers challenged the midfielder on his lack of endurance.
Should he earn a round one debut, the big-bodied onballer is ready to show the Tigers how much he has improved his running base since they last met.
"I've always played with a chip on my shoulder," Stocker said.
"I don't mind it when I've got a little bit more motivation to go with it.
"They certainly made me very aware of what my weaknesses were, and I think I probably needed it at that stage. You can go too far in TAC Cup footy getting told how good you are and not getting told what your weaknesses are, so I certainly needed it."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-26/stockers-docker-new-blue-on-the-run-with-opponent
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The AFL website reckons we would've taken Hill if Collier-Dawkins hadn't been available.
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If the Dogs had taken Caldwell, Smith would have gotten past Adelaide and the Giants, and Port Adelaide would not have drafted him either.
It's why Richmond, who started the draft back at pick 17, were in touch with Port Adelaide on draft day and were monitoring the situation if Smith became available. A trade offer for Port's second pick was likely if Smith slipped past the Dogs.
But Smith didn't drop.
Port weighed up Clark with its second choice (No.12) before going with Butters, but that selection had implications. Geelong (No.15) chose between Clark and Riley Collier-Dawkins, having called Clark five times during his flight from Perth to Melbourne on Thursday. They wanted to triple-check he was fine about relocating, but after he gave his assurances, chose him that night ahead of Victorian Collier-Dawkins.
Had Port picked Clark, Geelong would likely have chosen Collier-Dawkins and Richmond, back at their No.20 pick, would have had a much different night given they were relieved Collier-Dawkins was still available at their spot.
Adelaide (No.16) wanted McHenry for a long time and weighed up trying to slide him through to their third pick. However, Port would have taken the small forward with the following selection, and the Tigers loomed large too, so the Crows pounced.
Collier-Dawkins was at this point falling down the order, which made other clubs jump to attention. St Kilda was particularly active in trying to get back into the first round, with Collier-Dawkins believed to be on their radar. They offered the Crows a similar trade to Carlton for that pick 19, including the Saints' top pick next year, but Adelaide knocked it back.
He wasn't in the minds of Port with their third pick (No.18), and neither was Stocker, with the club believing it had enough bigger-bodied midfielders.
Carlton surprised many when it traded its first-round pick for next year to Adelaide for the Crows' pick 19 this year and their first-rounder next year, so they could jump up to take midfielder Liam Stocker, who had fallen down the draft board.
The Blues rated Stocker as the sixth best player in the 2018 crop, and wanted another midfielder to bring in alongside their No.1 choice Sam Walsh.
Richmond spoke to Collier-Dawkins in the days before the draft but had he not gotten through to them, the Tigers would likely have chosen Hill of the remaining players, his talent too hard to pass up despite the Tigers not necessarily being desperate for another small forward. The Tigers had more calls for that selection but held it and added to their midfield.
Further proof that, in the early stages of the draft at least, every pick has an implication for the next, and the next and the next.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-29/how-2018s-biggest-draft-shock-almost-didnt-happen
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The draft club videos are quite funny to watch. In particular CC from the Suns posturing and the boys saying how well they had done forgetting the only reason they have early picks is due to their horrendous performance and inability to hold onto players. I could have rocked up there and got their first 3 spot on. Also turning 2 picks into 1 for a player rated 25ish and may have gone later. I guess that's what live trading is all about.
I am not sure what clubs have to gain by making these public knowledge? I guess they have no choice as they are an AFL production.