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Title: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 08, 2018, 08:00:42 PM
No Tigers in the 31-50 range.

50. Nic Naitanui
49. Rory Laird
48. Ollie Wines
47. Adam Treloar
46. Steele Sidebottom
45. Shaun Higgins
44. Tom Scully
43. Seb Ross
42. Dane Rampe
41. Steven May

40. Dyson Heppell
39. Michael Walters
38. Shaun Burgoyne
37. Bradley Hill
36. Dan Hannebery
35. Marc Murphy
34. Michael Hurley
33. Jeremy McGovern
32. Clayton Oliver
31. Jeremy Cameron

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-08/afl-players-top-50-jeremy-mcgovern-4031
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: lamington on March 08, 2018, 11:38:21 PM
Rance riewoldt Martin Cotchin to be shoe ins for sure. I reckon Lambert will make an appearance for his blue collar attitude to football. He is our Scully except he has a premiership medal
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 08, 2018, 11:43:30 PM
Bradley Hill at 37 seems a reach
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 09, 2018, 11:05:11 AM
Cotch named at #23.

30. Callan Ward
29. Matt Crouch
28. Cyril Rioli
27. Patrick Cripps
26. Dayne Beams
25. Max Gawn
24. Luke Parker

23. Trent Cotchin
Richmond
Midfielder
Last year's ranking: 9
Official AFL Player Rating: 15
Debut: 2008
Games: 198
AFL Fantasy value: $673,000

There have been doubts around how good the Richmond captain is but he dispelled those last year, adding premiership captain to his list of accolades, alongside the 2012 Brownlow Medal. Cotchin's physicality in the finals set the standard for the Tigers and they followed his example. If he spends more time in attack as has been mooted, averaging a goal a game is conceivable.

22. Dylan Shiel
21. Toby Greene

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-09/afl-players-top-50-toby-greene-3021
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: lamington on March 10, 2018, 01:24:42 AM
GET STUFFED!!! How many premierships did Sniper Greene and Shiel captain or how many brownlow medals did they win? Cotch easily in the top 20
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Owl on March 10, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
consolation prizes, they can keep their top 50, we can win another premiership, suits me fine.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 10, 2018, 08:49:26 AM
consolation prizes, they can keep their top 50, we can win another premiership, suits me fine.

We would have to be the most underrated premiers for a long time.

Which should suit us perfectly.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on March 10, 2018, 09:51:26 AM
Dont forget this is the player voted top 50 - not some flog with an opinion *cough Robbo cough*.

But agreed, much rather have Cotch running around for us than Toby "prelim coward" Greene or his mate Dylan Shiels
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: The Machine on March 10, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
consolation prizes, they can keep their top 50, we can win another premiership, suits me fine.

 :clapping we should not give a rats about these silly trivial opinions....we are the premiers  :gotigers
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: The Machine on March 10, 2018, 09:57:09 AM
Dont forget this is the player voted top 50 - not some flog with an opinion *cough Robbo cough*.

But agreed, much rather have Cotch running around for us than Toby "prelim coward" Greene or his mate Dylan Shiels

Could it be as simple as jealousy? feeling resentment because of another's success?
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Damo on March 10, 2018, 10:06:58 AM
Last years ranking 9.

Dispelled the doubts.

And then ranked 23 lol.

Seriously though, who gives a continental
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Yeahright on March 10, 2018, 10:46:35 AM
Last years ranking 9.

Dispelled the doubts.

And then ranked 23 lol.

Seriously though, who gives a continental

Does seem a bit odd but wait and see. Can imagine outside teams voting for Martin over Cotchin and stealing a lot whereas last year it may have swayed in Cotchins favour
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: dwaino on March 10, 2018, 12:47:28 PM
I stopped at Nic Nat at 50.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 10, 2018, 01:44:43 PM
I stopped at Nic Nat at 50.

Then I started (laughing) when Cyril popped up next to Cotchin. At this rate Gaz will be no 1
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: tdy on March 11, 2018, 10:31:45 PM
I stopped at Nic Nat at 50.

NicNat is never on the field. He's lucky to be top 50 with the number of games he plays. Hey I just checked up he didnt play last year WTF how do you get a top anything Guernsey without playing a game.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 11, 2018, 11:24:08 PM
Braden Quartermaine, in todays Sunday times in Perth, has listed his top 50. Check out his top 10

1. Dangerfield
2. Martin
3. Fyfe
4. Franklin
5. Ablett
6. Tom Mitchell
7. Rance
8. Kennedy (Eagles)
9. Kelly
10. Zorko

He states that little seprates Danger and Martin statistically, but that his list isn't based on numbers. But then he says Mitchell has a record number of possessions.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: wayne on March 12, 2018, 07:20:26 AM
Ablett  :lol
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2018, 03:41:19 PM
AFL website's 16-20:

20. Dayne Zorko
19. Joe Daniher
18. Zach Merrett
17. Eddie Betts
16. Tom Mitchell

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-12/players-top-50-big-joe-danihers-secret-weapon
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: yandb on March 12, 2018, 04:09:13 PM
We have a Premiership so all we have to do is shake our heads and smile as they under rate us again this season.

If the opposition players under rate us we are already in front of the other teams before the season starts.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 12, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
I really don't get the love for Tom Mitchell.

Gets a lot of it for sure, but his use of the footy wouldn't scare my 6 year old daughter.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: lamington on March 12, 2018, 11:07:31 PM
Tom Mitchell was the rockliff of 2017.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: georgies31 on March 13, 2018, 01:57:42 AM
Same thing guys being underated just how we love it.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 13, 2018, 12:54:03 PM
The Top 10 must be all Tigers  :whistle.


11-15:

15. Marcus Bontempelli
14. Josh Kennedy (WCE)
13. Tom Lynch
12. Robbie Gray
11. Scott Pendlebury

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-13/2018-players-top-50-can-marcus-bontempelli-and-the-bulldogs-bite-back
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 13, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
The Top 10 must be all Tigers  :whistle.


11-15:

15. Marcus Bontempelli
14. Josh Kennedy (WCE)
13. Tom Lynch
12. Robbie Gray
11. Scott Pendlebury

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-13/2018-players-top-50-can-marcus-bontempelli-and-the-bulldogs-bite-back

:lol
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Tiger Khosh on March 13, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
Jack not getting in the 50 is just wrong
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 14, 2018, 11:15:46 AM
Rance is listed at 6.


10. Josh Kennedy (Swans)
9. Rory Sloane
8. Joel Selwood
7. Gary Ablett jnr

6. Alex Rance
Richmond
Defender
Last year's ranking: 10
Official AFL Player Rating: 22
Debut: 2009
Games: 175
AFL Fantasy value: $458,000

The game's best key defender had another cracker of a season in 2017 where he played every game and added a premiership medal to his trophy cabinet. Earned his fourth consecutive All Australian guernsey, and was named captain of that all-star team. Easily ranked No.1 in the competition for intercept possessions but was also a force when it came to one-on-one contests. A proven match winner for the Tigers and a crucial cog in their defence.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-14/players-top-50-the-unbreakable-rory-sloane
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Tiger Khosh on March 14, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
So the top 5 is gonna be dusty, danger, fyfe, kelly and..... Can anyone guess the fifth?
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Tiger Khosh on March 14, 2018, 01:51:37 PM
Don't worry forgot about buddy.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: georgies31 on March 14, 2018, 03:59:36 PM
Seriously Gary Ablett hasn't been on the park last 2 seasons lol just sooking at the suns.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 14, 2018, 08:49:15 PM
I don't see how Fyfe is top 10, let along Top 5.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 14, 2018, 09:24:43 PM
In what world is Stephen May better than Jack Riewoldt?
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Damo on March 14, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
I don't see how Fyfe is top 10, let along Top 5.

You will see this year. When firing he’s top three. Absolute jet!
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: lamington on March 14, 2018, 10:28:42 PM
I don't see how Fyfe is top 10, let along Top 5.

You will see this year. When firing he’s top three. Absolute jet!

IIRC that year Freo were yet to drop a game, not only did the tigers end their winning streak I think Martin beat Fyfe head to head?
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 15, 2018, 02:02:06 AM
I don't see how Fyfe is top 10, let along Top 5.

You will see this year. When firing he’s top three. Absolute jet!

The issue is when he is firing.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: one-eyed on March 15, 2018, 03:20:32 PM
Dusty No.1 but no Jack in top 50  :huh


5. Josh Kelly
4. Lance Franklin
3. Nat Fyfe
2. Patrick Dangerfield

1. Dustin Martin
Richmond
Midfielder
Last year's ranking: 12
Official AFL Player Rating: 2
Debut: 2010
Games: 178
AFL Fantasy value: $800,000

WHAT else can Dustin Martin achieve? How else can he be used? And can teams find a way to stop the most devastating player in the game? They are the three questions set to be answered in what shapes as an intriguing 2018 season for the most exciting player in the game. 

Martin completed what Leigh Matthews described as the greatest individual season in the game's history in 2017, winning Brownlow, Norm Smith and premiership medals all in one year – a feat never before achieved.

Ahead of the new season, he has been recognised by his peers as the game's best player, vaulting from No.12 in 2017 into top spot in the Players' Top 50 poll.

Players 5-1 are revealed below, and you can click here to see the full 2018 Players' Top 50.

Superstars Patrick Dangerfield and Nat Fyfe will be coming for Martin's crown as the game's best player, and we're in for a treat if that Brownlow winning pair can play at their best this year.

Many opponents are lucky to lay a glove on Dusty, let alone stop him. Picture: AFL Photos
So how does Martin hold them back?

The first factor is the freedom he will have without the constant speculation about his playing future, after signing a contract extension on the eve of last year's finals series.

"The two hours when you play footy is freedom … you don't have to worry about anything else. That's what I love doing," Martin said after last year's Grand Final.

Anything that gives the Tigers superstar more freedom can only help him and the focus in 2018 will be purely on his football, rather than a bidding war for his services.

Dustin Martin's 2017
25 games    
29.8 avg disposals
37 goals    
Brownlow Medal
All Australian    
Norm Smith Medal
AFL Players' Association MVP    
AFL Coaches' Association Player of the Year
Premiership winner    
Club best and fairest

How about his role?

Damien Hardwick showed a willingness to play Martin as an isolated forward last year, and the powerful midfielder has the authority to move where he thinks he is needed at any time.

As he gets better at using that authority in games, and harnesses his ability as an anchored forward at key points of matches, his influence could grow again.

Martin kicked a career-high 37 goals last year and, with his ability to kick multiple goals in 13 of those games, there's nothing to suggest that tally can't shoot past 50 in 2018 if he plays longer periods forward. 

Having won everything there is to win, what else can Dusty achieve?

Leadership stands out.

Entering his ninth season, Martin has never looked like a natural fit for the Tigers' leadership group before now, and a three-man set-up worked a treat for the club last year. 

But Martin's growth on and off the field could see him take on more responsibility in 2018, and that could impact both his and his team's performances if he relishes the opportunity.

The question of how teams stop Martin this year can't be answered right now. It will be fascinating to see what they try, but taggers don't work, and there is only one defender in the game that might feel comfortable manning him one-on-one inside 50.

Unfortunately for the rest of the competition, he wears the same jumper as the No.1 player in the game.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-15/players-top-50-can-dustin-martin-fend-off-the-pack
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: georgies31 on March 15, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
I would rate Jack in the top 20 players by a mile.Haven't seen a footballer player like him with the smarts snd football brain he's got and the way he has involved in our different game plans all his career.Very underated and was huge in 2017.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: wayne on March 15, 2018, 09:20:50 PM
We have one forward in the top 20  :shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 15, 2018, 10:08:45 PM
I would rate Jack in the top 20 players by a mile.Haven't seen a footballer player like him with the smarts snd football brain he's got and the way he has involved in our different game plans all his career.Very underated and was huge in 2017.

Jack is the most unselfish key forward of his generation.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: mat073 on March 16, 2018, 10:49:35 AM
Jack was the standout key forward on Grand final day . Tex and Jenkins were an embarrassment to their club.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 16, 2018, 11:24:10 AM
We have one forward in the top 20  :shh

:lol
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on March 25, 2018, 09:27:50 PM
I don't see how Fyfe is top 10, let along Top 5.

You will see this year. When firing he’s top three. Absolute jet!

Not the best of starts for him Damo.

I don't doubt his skill, but he has been some way from his best for some time now IMO.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Diocletian on March 26, 2018, 03:22:53 AM
Fyfe is cooked....needs a fresh start...perhaps playing for a club closer to his heart than his home.... :shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on March 26, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
Fyfe is cooked....needs a fresh start...perhaps playing for a club closer to his heart than his home.... :shh

 :shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Damo on March 26, 2018, 06:23:30 PM
He was their second best player Fyfe
Bit early to be on his case
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Damo on April 01, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
Fyfe seemed ok in a BOG performance this week
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 01, 2018, 11:03:29 PM
Fyfe seemed ok in a BOG performance this week
Pumping up his value for when he meets with the premiers  :shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Damo on April 08, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
Fyfe still cooked?

Stays fit and is a superstar

Would love him at tigerland
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Slipper on April 08, 2018, 05:13:43 PM
Fyfe still cooked?

Stays fit and is a superstar

Would love him at tigerland

I'd like him at Tigerland too, although he'd need to take a very big pay cut.

Very good in his last 2 games I must say, albeit one of which was playing GC at home.

Can he sustain it? Guess we will see.
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 08, 2018, 06:21:17 PM
Fyfe still cooked?

Stays fit and is a superstar

Would love him at tigerland

Fyfe seemed ok in a BOG performance this week
Pumping up his value for when he meets with the premiers  :shh
:shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: Diocletian on April 08, 2018, 11:33:40 PM
 :shh :shh
Title: Re: AFL website's Top 50
Post by: lamington on April 09, 2018, 01:05:25 AM
 :shh :shh :shh