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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 26, 2018, 11:40:27 AM
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The Bookies have the Crows favourite in the Grand Final rematch.
AFL Round 2
Adelaide vs Richmond
Thursday night, March 29 @ the Adelaide Oval.
Start time: 7:20 ACDT (7:50 AEDT)
Odds (Crownbet):
Adelaide $1.62
Richmond $2.30
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/2/adel-v-rich
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Half their team will be missing.
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The AFL website is tipping us to win by 20 points.
Match preview: Adelaide v Richmond
Lee Gaskin
afl.com.au
Mar 26, 2018 4:30PM
SUMMARY
This was already a huge game for Adelaide given its disappointing performance in last year's Grand Final, but takes on extra significance after the round one loss to Essendon. The Crows don't want to start the season 0-2, especially after seeing 2016 runners-up Sydney lose their first six games to start last year. Missing skipper Taylor Walker, forward Tom Lynch, midfielder Brad Crouch and recruit Sam Gibson, the Crows led the Bombers by 20 points at three-quarter time before being overrun in the last term. Playing in front of a parochial home crowd of more than 50,000 will be a welcome boost. The Tigers were pushed more than anyone expected by a gallant Carlton in the season opener before winning by 26 points. Their small forward line looks potent once again and Dustin Martin carried on his Brownlow Medal-winning form of last year. The Crows need to prove they've learned from the mistakes they made on Grand Final day.
WHERE AND WHEN: Adelaide Oval, Thursday, March 29, 7.20pm ACDT
LAST FIVE TIMES
GF, 2017, Richmond 16.12 (108) d Adelaide 8.12 (60) at the MCG
R6, 2017, Adelaide 21.14 (140) d Richmond 10.4 (64) at Adelaide Oval
R3, 2016, Adelaide 19.14 (128) d Richmond 13.14 (92) at Etihad Stadium
R19, 2015, Adelaide 11.22 (88) d Richmond 8.4 (52) at Adelaide Oval
R21, 2014, Richmond 10.19 (79) d Adelaide 9.15 (69) at Adelaide Oval
THE SIX POINTS
1. In last year's Grand Final, the Crows had more disposals, took more marks and laid more tackles than the Tigers, but were held to their lowest score of the season. The Tigers won the inside 50s, clearances and kicked their highest score in a final since 1982.
2. The Tigers' win in the Grand Final was their first victory over the Crows since 2014, ending a three-game losing streak. The Tigers haven't beaten the Crows in back-to-back games since 2013-14.
3. The Tigers have built their success around defence. They have kept their opposition to less than 100 points in their past 11 games.
4. The Crows were dominant at Adelaide Oval last year, winning 11 of 14 games on their home deck, with eight of those by more than 50 points. The Tigers have no issue travelling outside of Victoria, winning a respectable four of their six interstate games last year.
5. If the Crows lose, it will be just the second time they've lost their first two games of a season since 2011. The Tigers are aiming to be a perfect 2-0 for the second straight year.
6. Tigers key defender Alex Rance has reached a career-high 20th overall in the Schick AFL Player Ratings. Rance is the third highest-ranked player at the Tigers behind Brownlow medallist Dustin Martin (second overall) and Trent Cotchin (16th).
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR …
Nothing would top off the Trent Cotchin's 200th game like beating the Crows on their home deck. The skipper was an instrumental part of the Tigers' success last year and is one of the most respected leaders in the competition.
PREDICTION: Richmond by 20 points
www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-26/match-preview-adelaide-v-richmond
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This was always going to be a tough match to win at their home ground, and given the crows loss last week was probably unexpected, add to that the fact that they are going to want some serious revenge, how ever the game goes, I think we will have more in the tank than they will so we should run the game out for a fairly comfortable win.
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I’m expecting a win and I’m also expecting to hear a raft of excuses again from the crows as to why we beat them ::)
At least they can’t use the “we would have beat you if we played at home” excuse this time :shh
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A ‘cult-like’ pre-season camp debacle left senior Adelaide Crows players distressed
March 26, 2018 5:50pm
Tom Morris
@tommorris32
Source: FOX SPORTS
ELEMENTS of an emotionally distressing Gold Coast-based training camp left several senior Adelaide footballers shaken and frustrated in early February.
Foxfooty.com.au has been told multiple experienced Crows were bewildered and mentally distressed after the club’s first pre-season camp in seven years turned sour.
Unlike Melbourne’s debacle late last year, the cause for concern centred on the emotional wellbeing of players, especially half-a-dozen or so senior members of the team.
They were forced to adopt a mentality, described as ‘cult-like’ by one source, in the bush while the rest of the squad remained on the Gold Coast.
The club became aware of these concerns and was forced to address them in a team meeting shortly after the squad, medical staff and football department returned to Adelaide.
It’s understood the AFL Players’ Association was alerted but no formal complaint was made.
Not all players found the Queensland experience — which ran for a week from January 29 to February 2 — as distressing as a small group of senior footballers who endured the most emotionally intense aspects of mind training.
In addition, players were asked not to talk about the specifics of the emotional hardships they were forced to endure.
Adelaide’s playing list split up into two groups. One stayed on the Gold Coast for the week, while the more senior half-a-dozen or so players ventured to the bush on a “high gradient training” adventure that was designed to break them mentally for part of the camp.
Entitled the ‘Mankind Project’ and run by Collective Minds, players were asked to complete emotionally upsetting questionnaires, as well as a variety of tasks that sources say also had at least one assistant coach questioning the merits of the mental elements of the camp.
Ahead of the 2017 season, the Crows embarked on a multi-year program with Collective Minds to “unlock the next frontier of high performance” last pre-season and continued it over the recent summer.
“The value for us for mind training is that we have made a lot of progression in the physical side, whether it be a weights program, conditioning program, our skill and game program,” Adelaide coach Don Pyke said last year.
“The frontier that hasn’t been tapped into considerably is the mind space.
“A lot of our time is historically spent on the mind. And we think getting our players aware of the mind and the role that plays in performance was really vital. We’ve just unlocked the door and it’s an area we want to continue to expand on.”
Collective Minds have also worked with the South Sydney Rabbitohs in the NRL, plus worldwide brands Nestle and Lendlease.
Much of the training for the week was physical, but when senior players hopped in a bus and were blindfolded, sources have suggested that no medical professional accompanied them. One player in particular didn’t feel well but no doctors were there to assist. This process made some players — not all — question the club.
Speaking on AFL Nation on Friday evening, former St Kilda captain Danny Frawley shed more light on aspects of the training camp.
“I’m led to believe theirs was quite unique,” Frawley said.
“They went to a place in the Gold Coast and they thought they were going there. They had their shorts and they were in a bus and were basically blindfolded for about 24 hours in a bus.
“They were blindfolded and a guy was talking to them. They had food and didn’t know where they were going.
“It was more about the mind than physical … it was in the middle of Australia where they ended up.”
It’s believed the Adelaide Crows Board was not informed about the Gold Coast training camp and was only notified when at least one frustrated senior player mentioned it.
“There were elements of the camp where we deliberately through a little bit of confusion into it,” Adelaide chief executive Andrew Fagan told AFL Nation recently.
“Pykey has done a bit of that throughout the pre-season and just turned up and let the boys run training for themselves.
“They sort of wonder what’s going on. We want ensure the players are developing as leaders and coping with demands that are unplanned for.”
Some players are still “not in a good headspace” after the training camp, said one source.
Foxfooty.com.au has elected not to name the players who became distressed during and after the camp due to their mental wellbeing.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/a-cultlike-preseason-camp-debacle-left-senior-adelaide-crows-players-distressed/news-story/c49921a32fab6d7e6c672ab4f09ce805
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Cult practices
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Yeh they dont look normal
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They think they are mentally broken now, just wait til we have done them over again in front of thousands of their 'adoring' fans ... ;D :santa
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I reckon the ferals will set fire to the joint if we get up.
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I'd like to see Adelaide oval half full.
:lol
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I just painted an image of a lord of the flies scenario with the crows
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I am going over with my 2 kids for this game. Will be interested to see the reception we get as both a team or as tiger fans
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If anybody saw the game against Essendon last week they might of noticed that when the pressure was on Adeliade's structure and movement forward fell apart. Essendon got them kicking either blindly or rushed and Essendon were set up like we do to take advantage of this with a wall across the center. Just have to get into Adelaide's players heads that they have no time to get rid of it. Sometimes this takes a while but it usually works in the end.
Tigers to come from behind to win for me.
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Tigers expecting red-hot Crows for rematch
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Mar 27, 2018 4:47PM
RICHMOND is bracing for a "volatile" South Australian crowd for Thursday night's Grand Final rematch with Adelaide, which brings back Taylor Walker and Tom Lynch as it attempts to topple the reigning premiers.
It will be the first time the Tigers have returned to Adelaide Oval to face the Crows since they were humbled in a 76-point loss there in round six last season.
While the Tigers have the bigger and more recent bragging rights having spanked the Crows by 48 points in last year's decider, coach Damien Hardwick is wary of the punch the home team can deliver, especially after their opening-round loss to Essendon.
"After last week's performance, they had opportunities to win that game and (coach) Don [Pyke] was probably disappointed they didn't get over the line," Hardwick said on Tuesday.
"They're a really proud side and didn't quite play their best last week, so we expect them to come out on their home deck, and it's a pretty volatile environment at the Adelaide Oval.
"They gave us quite a touch up over there last time, so there's certainly some ammunition for us also.
"It's a great challenge for us against a really good side that's been a good side for a number of years. We'll be up for the fight, as will they."
Walker missed round one with a foot injury, while Lynch was out with a side strain.
Hardwick said they would plan for the duo to play, and would also put time into stopping the damaging skills of half-back Rory Laird and the midfielders Bryce Gibbs, Matt Crouch and Rory Sloane.
"They should get a few guys back, but that's not to say they're not an impressive unit," he said.
"Laird has just continued on from last year; we were watching him last night of how effective he is at getting the ball, he just finds himself in the right places at the right time.
"Bryce Gibbs has slotted in there nicely, he comes in and kicks two really important goals in the third quarter, and Crouch is just a ball magnet.
"He's like Tom Mitchell from Hawthorn, they just accumulate the ball and distribute it really well.
"They've got a really solid midfield with Rory Sloane through there as well, so we've got some headaches that we'll be planning for."
Hardwick has been impressed with the way his players attacked the pre-season after their premiership victory, but feels the Tigers have room to improve.
Having stalled early on against Carlton last week before going on to win by 26 points, he said the Tigers were under no illusions they needed to "re-establish" the late-season form that resulted in a flag.
"Our footy is to a good level at the moment, but it can certainly get better," he said.
"We've got players who will continue to improve, we'll improve our coaching … our best football is, I firmly believe, in front of us."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-27/tigers-expecting-redhot-crows-for-rematch
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Someone ask Michelangelo Rucci if Adelaide are still the perfect team .
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Does anybody know when the team is announced?
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Does anybody know when the team is announced?
:shh
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Adelaide forward Tom Lynch has been ruled out of Thursday night's blockbuster with Richmond at Adelaide Oval with illness, but skipper Taylor Walker is on track to play.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-03-28/lynch-ruled-out
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Does anybody know when the team is announced?
Tonight.
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Does anybody know when the team is announced?
Tonight.
Ta
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Don Pyke presser about the camp. "no apologies, can't keep everyone happy" :cheers :cheers :cheers :gotigers :gotigers It makes me happy! We have stuffed their club I think.
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Vluastin out
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Don Pyke presser about the camp. "no apologies, can't keep everyone happy" :cheers :cheers :cheers :gotigers :gotigers It makes me happy! We have stuffed their club I think.
Yeah, who'd have thought the Tigers, the subject of so much derision for the last 35 years, could psychologically annihilate a team like the Crows.
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Don Pyke presser about the camp. "no apologies, can't keep everyone happy" :cheers :cheers :cheers :gotigers :gotigers It makes me happy! We have stuffed their club I think.
Yeah, who'd have thought the Tigers, the subject of so much derision for the last 35 years, could psychologically annihilate a team like the Crows.
I think the Crows have developed a paranoia about us. This stance during finals was pure robotism, ludicrous, I hope some of these Crows players have the courage to come forward and expose this crap.
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Don Pyke presser about the camp. "no apologies, can't keep everyone happy" :cheers :cheers :cheers :gotigers :gotigers It makes me happy! We have stuffed their club I think.
Yeah, who'd have thought the Tigers, the subject of so much derision for the last 35 years, could psychologically annihilate a team like the Crows.
I think the Crows have developed a paranoia about us. This stance during finals was pure robotism, ludicrous, I hope some of these Crows players have the courage to come forward and expose this crap.
They were doing all season mate. Disaster
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What I find interesting is that both the Tigers and Crows were identified as being teams who were heavily invested in the mindfulness idea last season, and when both made the GF, it was being seen as a key that all clubs needed to look at.
But it seems now that if you get it right, it is helpful, but if you get it wrong, it can be disastrous.
There seems to be a very fine line between mindfulness and self-absorbed, self-centered arrogance.
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There seems to be a very fine line between mindfulness and self-absorbed, self-centered arrogance.
And walk-er-ing over that line is called Tex :yep.
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There fills like there's been a total flip in who has most to lose tonight. All the pressure is now on Adelaide with the last year's GF defeat, their preseason camp being leaked and exposed in the media as a farce, and now them facing being 0-2 if they get done tonight. It's pretty much become a free hit for us. We can go out and play our natural high-pressure team game. Hopefully, we've learnt from round 6 last year how to play the ground better.
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NO LATE CHANGES
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Adelaide: Hugh Greenwood, David Mackay, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, Darcy Fogarty
Richmond: Jayden Short, Shai Bolton, Corey Ellis, Jack Graham
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-29/final-teams-adelaide-v-richmond
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All the guys need to stand up more who come in last week Bolton ,Ellis and Conca.
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how bout them umpies
love the illegal disposals lol
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how bout them umpies
love the illegal disposals lol
Crow throw back in vogue ::).
Quarter time
Richmond 4.2-26
Adelaide 4.4-28
Goals: Edwards, Lambert, Bolton, Martin
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We need to win contested possession and we will win easily. Our pressure looks good at the minute but we need to pick it up in close and even it up in the contest.
Those that are ball watching need to get busy
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A lot of players down. Conca is a liability. Houli unsighted. Grigg unsighted. Riewoldt down. Its not looking good.
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lot of bs holding going on Rance is getting sucked in
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Oh for Pete’s sake :banghead
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Half-time
Richmond 4.2 9.4-58
Adelaide 4.4 11.4-70
Goals: Martin 3, Caddy 2, Edwards, Lambert, Bolton, Townsend.
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Dimma will be doing his nut. Giving away dumb frees and dumb goals.
Defensive pressure is off. Too many Tigers flying through the contest and not protecting the defensive side of the contest.
2 forwards flying for the mark with no one down front and square to crumb.
Half-back line is getting sucked into the middle contest leaving open space inside Adelaide's F50 ahead of Jenkins. Aided by fumbles and dropped marks upfield.
Lots to tidy up. Thankfully 'only' two goals down despite the Crows kicking 7 straight.
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lot of bs holding going on Rance is getting sucked in
Got to love how protecting the 10m is non-existent tonight. Crows player on his own runs right past Caddy I think with the mark/free 70 out and no free.
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When does a team kick 7 straight?
Only against us?
Unbelievable.
We’ve got a few who can lift.
B Ellis needs to grow a pair. Dropped two chest Marks that quarter because he crapped his pants.
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Gee Rabbleaide are emotional tonight, anybody would think it was a Grand final.
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BEllis wearing his nappies again...
CEllis the invisible man again...
Conca :banghead Conca :banghead Conca :banghead
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Definately need to lift this half
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Our pressure and skills and tackling no way near good enough.With Conca and Ellis and even Bolton we are getting no output.
Few seniors need to lift Lambert Grigg Cotchin and Ellis I hope his not going back to his old ways.To many basic football errors.If we are off a couple percent we will sufffer as our game is based on pressure and run and carry and we aren't a highly skilled side.
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Any chance of getting a free kick.
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Any chance of getting a free kick.
We give away plenty of silly frees... :banghead
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Too many passengers today.
Pretty dumb forward entries too.
BLOODY KICK TO ADVANTAGE!
.......umpires aren’t helping us at all.
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Bolton is not able to compete against these blokes yet. Some of the others need a kick up the arse.
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We’re fooked.
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Grigg unsighted. Is he injured?
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I’d take a pack of twisties for Conca in a trade.
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To many passengers.What happen to hard work and desperation.Can't understand these guys won a flag and cruised in finals yet so many fumbles and dropped marks and poor skills and turn overs.Not enough guys doing hard work.
Not liking what I see first 2 games.A few players back to there old ways.Playing Conca and Ellis and Bolton not up to it.
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Astbury :banghead
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Come on tigers put these pretenders away :gotigers
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That sums up our night. Get back into it and then cough up a dumb goal through a schoolboy error (Astbury's shank in this case).
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FREE KICK ADELAIDE ::).
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Astbury a big momentum killer
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so fumbly, such crappy tackling
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I'm at the game and the amount of fumbles and dropped marks was disgraceful at this level. We missed a second ruck tonight
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stuff Conca off
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Been really noticeable the skills a way down fumbles ,dropping of marks and turn overs and pressure like tigers of the past.So many seniors players down the backline is a mess midfield no pressue and forward line not functioning.
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free kicks 27 to 14
nothing to see here.
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ROFL look at Tex silly prick thinks he just won a Grand Final
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The ball was like a cake of soap for us. Adelaide was too clean. We were completely outplayed.
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Forget about free kicks, -46 in contested ball says it all.
Not to mention the terrible ball use going forward in the second half.
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Nice way for Cotch to celebrate his 200th
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Forget about free kicks, -46 in contested ball says it all.
Not to mention the terrible ball use going forward in the second half.
agreed
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Being at game we had a perculiar starting setup allowing 2-3 crows players free. Didn't change for whole game. Thought we might have went man on man at some stage
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Forget about free kicks, -46 in contested ball says it all.
Not to mention the terrible ball use going forward in the second half.
agreed
x20000000000000
Our worst effort since the Saints loss last year. Too many passengers, defensive work rate was poor, and plenty of dumb footy and schoolboys mistakes :banghead that continually gifted them easy goals.
Hopefully, a major wake up call that work-rate, pressure and 22 contributors are non-negotiable.
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Also Vlastuin for C Ellis.
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Terrible second half really.
Had an opportunity to flex the muscle and run over the top of them but let them have it with terrible disposal and allowed them to win contested ball.
Conca needs to go simple. He’s a liability. It’s better for everyone when he’s injured.
Grigg was terrible today not sure what he was trying to achieve out there today.
Our mistakes were crucial too.
Our leaders has terrible games but Rance stood up after half time.
Riewoldt and Cotchin has games they’d rather forget.
Castagna didn’t do one thing that I could say contributed to the team he was uselsss.
All round a promising first half I really thought we could run over the top of them but credit to them they outplayed us and wanted it more and had winners all over the ground even though they had injuries to crucial players. Fogarty looks a real good player.
Martin, Nankervis, Grimes and Rance in the second half only, The rest need to have a good look at themselves.
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Our defence has been poor last 2 weeks been.very unlike.Blues had 2 players both kick 5 and crows had one kick 4 and one 5.
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Just looked completely out of sorts tonight, can't remember us having such poor field kicking. I do think we needed to lose a game and maybe like the loss to them last season this is another kick in the pants they need to start doing the hard work again.
One thing that was very noticeable was our tackling seemed very poorly executed, we would outnumber them in close but time and time again they still managed to free their arms and get the ball out to a player running past.
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Completely outplayed tonight. So many basic errors from good players hurt us big time. The backline had no help from the mids tonight which is not what we normally do....the frees against us do hurt but we did get smashed in contested footy which hurts more. Not many highlight at all. It just didn't work tonight but we need to reset for a big game next week.
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Played like millionaires....thought they were broken & we just had to turn up (wouldn't be surprised if the hole "camp" controversy was just a ruse)....really should've rolled them easily after Crouch went down and then Talia as well not to mention Sloane on one leg ...too many missed tackles and failing to stop the handball (as with Carlton last week) ...forward pressurre disappeared.....no-one picking up their runners........decision making & execution going into the forward 50 was atrocious...way to much "cute" crap...just a lazy lairising effort all round...
Conca's a liabilty.....the Ellis sisters were useless again....Lambert's cheating would've made Dane Swan proud...
Another match that underlined just how much we miss Rioli....and Prestia for that matter.....probably Broad too...
Got killed in the air again....bring in Moore....
Oh & great move taking Martin off just as he starts tearing the game apart....
Umpire didn't help paying tiggy holding frees against us very two minutes and completely ignoring theirs...
Also never seen the bounce of the ball favour a side as much as it did Adelaide tonight...
Of course neither of those things were why we lost...Adelaide were just far more motivated...just hope we don't have to play them in the GF over there this time....oh no wait...we won't..... :shh :gotigers
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We got beaten by 10 goals at Adelaide oval last year. I'm not too concerned. Some big ins still to come in Prestia Rioli vlastuin.
Conca and c Ellis were putrid, not much from Bolton and castagna either. Particularly c Ellis, so many moments where he had to go and just didn't effect the contest.
This game was massive for Adelaide, another game for us.
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Losing sucks. One team had demons to slay, for the other it was round 2.
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smasha's dumb paranoid hashtag is actually true this year...... :shh
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The Crows had 12 players with 20 or more disposals, while Martin was the only one for the Tigers.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-29/match-report-strong-crows-win-soured-by-injury
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A lot of players down. No need to panic - need Prestia & Vlastuin back though. Maybe Miles to add some inside grunt. McIntosh might need a rest in the VFL.
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A lot of players down. No need to panic - need Prestia & Vlastuin back though. Maybe Miles to add some inside grunt. McIntosh might need a rest in the VFL.
2 weeks in a row we've been out hunted when the hard ball is there to be won. We also have struggled to close down opposition space when they have possession
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Losing sucks. One team had demons to slay, for the other it was round 2.
Pretty much felt like that
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Losing sucks. One team had demons to slay, for the other it was round 2.
Pretty much felt like that
I can't remember which replay it was for, might have been Hawks v Swans, and Cam Mooney was asked on 360 if the players look forward to the replays as much as the fans. He said for the loser they would look for it the moment the draw is released. For the winner it's just another round. I kind of felt that way myself. If you take how rapt we were last year, they would have been equally burning. That's huge motivation. For us it's round 2 and going through the motions. We better fix it up though and not let any wins slip away. Doesn't matter how we get the points the first half of the year, as long as we're in touch for the second half when the genuine contenders start turning it on.
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Ball use was awful, mistake after mistake, fumbles and dropped marks a plenty, pretty much why we lost :banghead
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Might be rd 2 to early but where not playing like we did early rounds last season quick ball movement,working for each other pressure and tackling smart decisions and excellent skills.
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its only early days and im not really fussed.
I noticed the lack of pressure last week and its continued on this week. Missed tackles, 1 handed grabs at a mark, terrible decision making etc
I get the feeling its because we are seeing duds like conca and c ellis out there.
Once those 2 remove themselves from the best 22 we may start to see 2017 form.
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Exceptionally disappointing night.
We looked slow and we were bullied and some of our blokes dont like getting roughed up
BEllis was terrible again. Bad BEllis is back with a vengeance
CEllis is just such a disappointment o so many levels
Conca... thank goodness Vlastuin is back next week
Bolton back to the VFL. Who cares if you've put off contract talks..you price goes down weekly with "efforts" like that
Catagna did he play? :o
Reiwoldt & Cotchin both poor games. Rance improved in the 2nd half
We had so many poor players tonight thats the disappointing thing
Thought Grimes & Short were terrific
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Exceptionally disappointing night.
We looked slow and we were bullied and some of our blokes dont like getting roughed up
BEllis was terrible again. Bad BEllis is back with a vengeance
CEllis is just such a disappointment o so many levels
Conca... thank goodness Vlastuin is back next week
Bolton back to the VFL. Who cares if you've put off contract talks..you price goes down weekly with "efforts" like that
Catagna did he play? :o
Reiwoldt & Cotchin both poor games. Rance improved in the 2nd half
We had so many poor players tonight thats the disappointing thing
Thought Grimes & Short were terrific
Imagine the upside then.
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Leaders had a shocker.
Cotchin was fearless but didn’t get it enough.
Riewoldt was terrible.
Rance was terrible but good second half and the best of the leaders.
Grigg was MIA.
Edwards was fumbly.
Houli was rusty.
Can’t see them having two games like this I’d expect them to bounce back next week.
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First two games we’ve gone back to the old boot it long at all times ways. This was one of my concerns last year but towards the end of the season when we really started winning by large margins we were much more efficient getting our heads up and finding short targets inside 50 or kicking to advantage. Kicking it long is ok when it’s going to a genuine contest but so many times they would just throw it on the boot when there was a better option close by. Our defensive setup has been poor these past two games, rance got an absolute bath that first half need vlastuin straight back in and looks like broad was more important then most of us thought.
Thought dusty and nank were fantastic with caddy and short very good. A lot of passengers tonight and I’d expect 3-4 changes for next game but hopefully they take something away from this and come out firing next Sunday :gotigers
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I am not phased one bit. Every time we kicked a goal, the umpy found a free kick at the next stuffing play to let them kick one the other way in the first half. The second half we went to pot and gave up. Round 2 couldn't give a poo, we got some blokes to come back. We will run into form and these clowns will be witches hats next time we play em.
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I think we are missing Rioli up forward.
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Grigg & B Ellis both have same issue. Throw the ball on the boot when they feel the slightest pressure.
The sun has come up today. No need to panic. Always hard to win over there
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Not worried at all . Was thinking we needed a loss because there has been far too much showboating going on .
To me the game was lost when Jack kicked it out on the full in the third . Very ordinary effort.
You could see how well the Crows play Adelaide oval - suits their big talls .
Bolton is all sizzle and no sausage at the moment.
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We're not playing well, it's a concern given our form in JLT but I guess that was hugely misleading given Essendon's preparation and Nof.
We were hammered in contested footy last night and only broke even on that stat last week. Missing meatball and replacing him with Cellis instead of Miles a huge mistake imo.
Bolton ahead of Higgins or Stengle also an error.
Finally, teams have worked out the single ruckman thing and so we going to need a proper contest in the Ruck.
Vlas missing hurt us down back last night but they are such a good kicking side, I'm not sure it would've made much difference - pushing them to the wings has little consequence at Adelaide Oval as they (and we) can take advantage of those deep pockets that are much easier to score goals from
set shots.
Last night was a good straighten up - players, coaches and match committee. We've got 10 days to kick our wounds and smash the Hawks
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It was a necessary loss to bring the team back to reality. Need all 22 players that cross the line to bring heat to the contest and not play like millionaires. It was a bit disappointing to see that too much was left to too few. I am confident the team can straighten up like they did after the St Kilda spanking
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
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You could see how well the Crows play Adelaide oval - suits their big talls .
I think you are right. Walker and particularly Jenkins looked like different players last night.
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They simply wanted it more and we were pee poor. The End.
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What I was surprised with first 2 rds that we had to many panic merchants cracking under pressure with poor skills,fumbles,poor decisions lack of pressure etc like old tigers.Certain senior players habits coming back.There was erased last season and we seen little of it as we looked always confident.
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They simply wanted it more and we were pee poor. The End.
This^^
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They simply wanted it more and we were pee poor. The End.
This^^
Yep :clapping
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. Our win against Carlton has now also been exposed as an average win as Carlton got flogged by
Gold Coast. A lot of work to do and maybe its time to start playing a 2nd tall in attack now.
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. Our win against Carlton has now also been exposed as an average win as Carlton got flogged by
Gold Coast. A lot of work to do and maybe its time to start playing a 2nd tall in attack now.
Agreed although we’d have beaten the
Scum by 100 I’d they had have dishes up that poo last week
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One thing that really annoys the hell out of me is when a player doesn’t kick to advantage of their teammate when kicking inside forward 50. Drives me bonkers. :banghead
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. Our win against Carlton has now also been exposed as an average win as Carlton got flogged by
Gold Coast. A lot of work to do and maybe its time to start playing a 2nd tall in attack now.
The scum trained all off season with the view of starting well. Came out all hyper and kicked the first 5 goals. Emotion only gets you so far.
From the 12 minute mark of the game we out scored them 120 to 65
It is just round 2. Will wait until we see how the next 5 weeks unfolds. Hawks, Brisbane, Melbourne, Collingwood and Freo all at MCG.
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. Our win against Carlton has now also been exposed as an average win as Carlton got flogged by
Gold Coast. A lot of work to do and maybe its time to start playing a 2nd tall in attack now.
The scum trained all off season with the view of starting well. Came out all hyper and kicked the first 5 goals. Emotion only gets you so far.
From the 12 minute mark of the game we out scored them 120 to 65
It is just round 2. Will wait until we see how the next 5 weeks unfolds. Hawks, Brisbane, Melbourne, Collingwood and Freo all at MCG.
Don’t spoil the early season melt down
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Back to back or Hardwick gets the sack....
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Main concern is that they still managed beat us fairly comfortably with one of their two best mids missing for most of the match, the other on one leg for a large part of it and down a KPD and two rotations for most of the second half.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. Our win against Carlton has now also been exposed as an average win as Carlton got flogged by
Gold Coast. A lot of work to do and maybe its time to start playing a 2nd tall in attack now.
The scum trained all off season with the view of starting well. Came out all hyper and kicked the first 5 goals. Emotion only gets you so far.
From the 12 minute mark of the game we out scored them 120 to 65
It is just round 2. Will wait until we see how the next 5 weeks unfolds. Hawks, Brisbane, Melbourne, Collingwood and Freo all at MCG.
Don’t spoil the early season melt down
no melt down just disappointed by the style of play and how we went about it on the night. we were so far off our best it wasn't funny.
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I have a feeling we are struggling to maintain hunger.
A few soft efforts on Thursday, a few losses of concentration and a few smiles when Cotchin was being chaired off.
All little signs that we aren't quite the machine we were last year.
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I have a feeling we are struggling to maintain hunger.
A few soft efforts on Thursday, a few losses of concentration and a few smiles when Cotchin was being chaired off.
All little signs that we aren't quite the machine we were last year.
Hello TBR
We really were not a well oiled machine until round 22.
After the byes rounds last year we were one game and a small bit of percentage from being in 11th. We were 7 wins 5 losses at that time. Then won 8 and 2 from that point
Only round 2 right now.
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I have a feeling we are struggling to maintain hunger.
A few soft efforts on Thursday, a few losses of concentration and a few smiles when Cotchin was being chaired off.
All little signs that we aren't quite the machine we were last year.
Hello TBR
We really were not a well oiled machine until round 22.
After the byes rounds last year we were one game and a small bit of percentage from being in 11th. We were 7 wins 5 losses at that time. Then won 8 and 2 from that point
Only round 2 right now.
I reckon our game plan kicks in over the winter when the ball hits the deck more often and precise kicking skills.
We're not beating Adelaide in their home deck in perfect conditions. It's like expecting a fast bowler to rip through the top order on day 3 at Bellerive Oval.
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7 minute mark of the final term Dusty kicks his second of the term and inexplicably runs off the ground the crows look toast despite most of our leaders, elder statesmen, second tier players and juniors all playing poo as well as getting smashed in contested possession.
Astbury kicks off the side of his boot which practically bounces into the arms of tex who goals. Then BEllis kicks one oof and Sloane on one foot kicks truly from the boundary line.
We had our chance and fluffed it.
They took their chances and had more contributors on the night.
Even still we could’ve won it. They just arsed all their chances at goal and we didn’t.
The worry is contested possession and why Dusty ran off the ground when he was literally on fire and unstoppable.
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From Robbo's 'dislikes' column today:
9. LAMENTABLE RICHMOND
Ross Lyon said in Round 1 the Dockers couldn’t tackle Port Adelaide because they couldn’t catch them. In Round 2, Richmond couldn’t put pressure on Adelaide because Adelaide didn’t allow them to. It was smart play from Crows coach Don Pyke who devised a plan which denied Richmond their key asset — pressure. The Crows took 61 uncontested marks in the second half and the result was Richmond’s pressure factor for the half was 155. In the finals last season, their average pressure factor was 199 and throw in a record -48 in contested possession. It was amazing the Tigers only lost by six goals.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-looks-at-the-highlights-and-lowlights-of-round-2/news-story/b78f1ca0858d7bea89b14459a6bd66e1
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Pyke)
ADELAIDE v RICHMOND
10 Rory Laird (Adel)
7 Josh Jenkins (Adel)
7 Dustin Martin (Rich)
4 Rory Sloane (Adel)
1 Bryce Gibbs (Adel)
1 Hugh Greenwood (Adel)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-03/aflca-votes-round-two-seven-perfect-10s
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7 minute mark of the final term Dusty kicks his second of the term and inexplicably runs off the ground the crows look toast despite most of our leaders, elder statesmen, second tier players and juniors all playing poo as well as getting smashed in contested possession.
Astbury kicks off the side of his boot which practically bounces into the arms of tex who goals. Then BEllis kicks one oof and Sloane on one foot kicks truly from the boundary line.
We had our chance and fluffed it.
They took their chances and had more contributors on the night.
Even still we could’ve won it. They just arsed all their chances at goal and we didn’t.
The worry is contested possession and why Dusty ran off the ground when he was literally on fire and unstoppable.
Does anyone know the theory behind why they take players off the ground in these situations?
ie When a player kicks a goal they sprint to the interchange.
It seems to happen often not only with Richmond but other teams also.
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Its to do with resting time off the ground. Usually players, particularly your jets and midfielders, dont spend more then 3 minutes off during any change. After a goal is kicked, theres about 1 minute of dead time while waiting for play to start again in the middle. So you basically spend less "live" gametime off the ground.