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Title: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2018, 04:03:56 PM
Broad looked like he copped a corky (?) in the upper thigh but played out the game.

Prestia and Grigg should be close to returning by next week.

Fire away with your changes, if any?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: torch on May 13, 2018, 04:08:26 PM
Lambert?
Broad?

Both either cramped up or?

Martin needs a rest! tagged out and must be carrying an injury?

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 13, 2018, 04:08:42 PM
Out - Butler (needs a stint in the two to find form)
In - Stengle or Bolton
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 13, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
Out - Butler (needs a stint in the two to find form)
In - Stengle or Bolton

This would be my only forced change although Macintosh can’t be far off the chopping block.

Would bring in Prestia for Lloyd if he’s fit but wouldn’t risk him if they’re not sure.

Think lambo and broad copped corkies looks like they’ll be a few sore boys given how physical it was but hopefully no injuries.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: lamington on May 13, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
I think McIntosh could be a straight swap for Ellis. I think towner might be at a risk of losing his spot just for no scoreboard impact. He does crash the packs which is great but I think 11 possessions and zero goals is poor for someone in his position.

How far until Rioli is fit?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 13, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
Out - Butler (needs a stint in the two to find form)
In - Stengle or Bolton
Agree. He was   :chuck
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 13, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
No more Snags
In Stengle . Grigg and Prestia
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 13, 2018, 06:18:51 PM
Out: Butler, Tonka Shytetruck, Higgins, Lloyd

In: Stengle, Baker, Bolton, Menadue

I wouldn't bring Prestia back on the Optus Concrete.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Slipper on May 13, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Not sure on ins and outs at this stage, but the more pace we can get into the team for the next game in Perth, the better.

I reckon we can expose the Eagles with a lot of pace in the team.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 13, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Out: Butler, Tonka Shytetruck, Higgins, Lloyd


Yep all four could go but Conca won’t, reckon Higgins and Butler the likely ones to go
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 13, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
OUTS: Higgins, Lloyd

INS: Miles (if Prestia is not ok to go), Stengle

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 13, 2018, 07:40:35 PM
Didn't think Lloyd was near our worst. Butler played one of the worst games of footy possible, did kick a crunch goal for us though.

Badly need Rioli back.

Can we get by with 2 quick small forwards? If so, Higgins/Butler out - the Bellis to return for some wing action.

You also can't tell me Anthony Miles hasn't kicked the door down and demanded a game in the seniors after a 40+ possession game & 2 goals.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: dwaino on May 13, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Higgins needs a rest. Miles would be a great inclusion, if not Prestia, so Dusty can sit forward while he gets through whatever it is he is carrying.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 13, 2018, 08:02:16 PM
Didn't think Lloyd was near our worst. Butler played one of the worst games of footy possible, did kick a crunch goal for us though.

Badly need Rioli back.

Can we get by with 2 quick small forwards? If so, Higgins/Butler out - the Bellis to return for some wing action.

You also can't tell me Anthony Miles hasn't kicked the door down and demanded a game in the seniors after a 40+ possession game & 2 goals.
The thing I’ve noticed with Butler / Castagna is that just when you write one off for poor performances the next week he has a blinder. It’s like they both change personalities from week to week and your glad they weren’t dropped.
Higgins needs a rest in the twos though.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: pmac21 on May 13, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
So hard to drop bloke's so I'm going to say let's rotate out Higgins, Broad, Townsend
In Prestia, Grigg, Miles

Miles deserves a game.  41 touches, 2 goals. 
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 13, 2018, 11:47:29 PM
Didn't think Lloyd was near our worst. Butler played one of the worst games of footy possible, did kick a crunch goal for us though.

Badly need Rioli back.

Can we get by with 2 quick small forwards? If so, Higgins/Butler out - the Bellis to return for some wing action.

You also can't tell me Anthony Miles hasn't kicked the door down and demanded a game in the seniors after a 40+ possession game & 2 goals.
The thing I’ve noticed with Butler / Castagna is that just when you write one off for poor performances the next week he has a blinder. It’s like they both change personalities from week to week and your glad they weren’t dropped.
Higgins needs a rest in the twos though.

George has been very good this season was quiet today but butler was just plain poor apart from that super clutch goal in the fourth. Don’t think butler has been up to it so far this year which is disappointing because he started extremely well in round 1.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on May 14, 2018, 06:19:52 AM
Higgins needs a rest. Stengle, Bolton and Miles deserve to be brought in but not sure who else they will drop.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Knighter on May 14, 2018, 06:35:43 AM
Out; Higgins, Butler
In: Bolton, Wombo
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: georgies31 on May 14, 2018, 07:06:55 AM
Gez Macintosh killing us with turnovers to and kicking.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on May 14, 2018, 11:11:01 AM
Lloyd was decent yesterday. Many to be dropped before him.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 14, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Lloyd was decent yesterday. Many to be dropped before him.
  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: mat073 on May 14, 2018, 12:07:51 PM
Rest Nank and Dusty .

Give Stengle another go at the expense of Higgins. 

If Prestia can't get up play Miles .

Grigg will probably come in for Townsend .
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 14, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
Lloyd was decent yesterday.

No he wasn't.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on May 14, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Lloyd was decent yesterday.

No he wasn't.

Yes, he was. 
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: pmac21 on May 14, 2018, 03:08:20 PM
Prestia needs to play as he releases one of either Dusty or Cotch. 
Miles has to come in. Plain and simple. 
Townsend should play to negate Hurn. 
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 14, 2018, 03:33:59 PM
Lloyd was decent yesterday.

No he wasn't.

Yes, he was.

Nope, wasn't.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 14, 2018, 04:00:35 PM
Higgins out,  stengle in
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on May 14, 2018, 04:37:32 PM
Lloyd was decent yesterday.

No he wasn't.

Yes, he was.

Nope, wasn't.

Well, now ya put it that way....
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 14, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
 :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 15, 2018, 01:06:43 PM
Grigg back this week but doubts over Broad and Castagna due to knocks. Prestia to miss again.

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The Tigers believe Shaun Grigg will be available for Sunday's top of the table clash with West Coast at Optus Stadium after missing the last two games with a hamstring injury, but are expected to maintain a conservative approach with Dion Prestia, with the midfielder likely to miss a second week with a calf strain.

Scans have cleared Jason Castagna of serious knee damage after a knock during the Tigers' 10-point win over North Melbourne on Sunday.

However, his availability this week will hinge on how he trains and how the knee settles.

Defender Nathan Broad is also in some doubt after suffering a corked glute in the fourth quarter and will have to prove his fitness this week if he's to travel to Perth.

If Broad misses, it could open the door for fellow premiership backman and his housemate Brandon Ellis, who had 23 possessions in the VFL on Sunday.

Ellis hasn't played senior football since round five, with Broad and the much-improved Jayden Short squeezing him out of the side.

Young defender Ryan Garthwaite should also be available despite stretching his shoulder in the VFL, after being named as an emergency for the clash with the Roos, and midfielder Anthony Miles was unconcerned after precautionary scans on Monday following his 41 VFL disposals.

Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-15/flag-hero-pencils-in-vfl-return-on-saturday#/)
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: pmac21 on May 15, 2018, 01:44:28 PM
Ok, after reading that
Out Broad, Castagna, Higgins rest them all
In B Ellis, Grigg, Miles

Shame about Prestia
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 15, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
If Broad doesn't play I'd bring in Garthwaite, Miller or Moore.

The obvious replacements for Castagna & Higgins are Baker & Stengle.

I'd keep Prestia on ice until after the bye.  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on May 15, 2018, 02:21:06 PM
Corked glute? Surely can get up for this week, that's barely "general soreness"?

Broad plays if he can get up. We need him, their forward line is disgustingly potent.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on May 15, 2018, 02:36:03 PM
Castagna might get a rest for this one or higgins i suppose and they might bring in shai bolten to show case him to the eagles and Dockers. I am of the opinion that he will be looking for a trade home to the west at seasons end.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 15, 2018, 03:26:15 PM
In the Mix - Round 9

Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
15 May 2018


RICHMOND

Get them in: Shaun Grigg should be available after missing two weeks with a hamstring injury. Brandon Ellis will be considered after a solid VFL game, particularly if Nathan Broad doesn't recover from a corked glute. Daniel Rioli is set to play his first game since the Grand Final, but at VFL level.

Under the pump: Another even performance from the premiers means injuries and management are more likely to prompt changes. Jack Higgins was quiet but forced omissions might save him. 

Medical room:
Dion Prestia will likely miss again as the Tigers go conservative with his calf injury while Jason Castagna and Broad have to prove their fitness after copping knocks in Sunday's win. Grigg should be right to go while Ryan Garthwaite is also expected to be available after stretching a shoulder in the VFL.

Verdict:
Grigg returns, Castagna and Broad in doubt, Ellis well and truly in the mix, and maybe Ivan Soldo is considered if playing load is catching up with Toby Nankervis. Small forward Tyson Stengle has kicked 11 goals in five games and could be discussed.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-15/in-the-mix-round-nine
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: georgies31 on May 15, 2018, 06:10:02 PM
Wouldn't be against bringing Menadue in for this one give us some more pace on big ground.Need Broad this week with his flexibility and there tall forward line.Higgins needs a spell Stengle or Bolton in.Towner needs a spell to no score impact.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on May 15, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
If Broad out would try Garthwaite. Bolton or Stengle would bring x factor.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Slipper on May 15, 2018, 06:49:52 PM
I'd go for the quickest small forward we have as an in. Most likely to be Bolton.

He looks tailor made for Optus.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 15, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
If Broad doesn't play I'd bring in Garthwaite, Miller or Moore.

The obvious replacements for Castagna & Higgins are Baker & Stengle.

I'd keep Prestia on ice until after the bye.  :shh
Baker?  Why not Bolton or is that what you meant and it was a case of auto correct? I ask because I haven’t seen him and I would’ve expected Bolton to be first off the cab.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Lebowski on May 15, 2018, 07:41:13 PM
Hopefully Broad plays, but if he misses bc of the corky id bring in Garthwaite to replace him - we need the talls to combat west coasts tall timber, but likely wont happen and we'll bring in Grigg.

Hopefully George pulls up ok, but if we need to rest him bring in Stengle or Bolton.

BEllis needs to do more before coming back
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on May 15, 2018, 09:09:44 PM
If Broad doesn't play I'd bring in Garthwaite, Miller or Moore.

The obvious replacements for Castagna & Higgins are Baker & Stengle.

I'd keep Prestia on ice until after the bye.  :shh
Baker?  Why not Bolton or is that what you meant and it was a case of auto correct? I ask because I haven’t seen him and I would’ve expected Bolton to be first off the cab.


Baker is in ripping form. He is a pure player who kicks well both sides and knocks up getting the pill...something good happens when he is involved. He or Stengle could come in no problem.

Menadue for Broad should he not get up.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 15, 2018, 10:21:53 PM
Yes Baker - if Castagna or Butler don't play we need to replace them with someone not just of similar pace but also work rate, aggression and defensive pressure.....not a bloke with no tank who's more concerned with winning mark and goal of the year.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 17, 2018, 01:18:03 AM
Richmond big man misses training, in doubt for Eagles clash

Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 16, 2018


RICHMOND may be set to take on West Coast and gun ruckman Nic Naitanui without its No.1 big man with Toby Nankervis failing to train on Wednesday morning.

Nankervis wasn't sighted during the hit-out at Punt Road after appearing to injure his right wrist in the third quarter against North Melbourne on Sunday.

The 23-year-old landed awkwardly after contesting a centre bounce against Todd Goldstein shortly before three-quarter time and looked to be in discomfort when he grabbed his wrist.

However, he played out the game and even took a mark in the minutes that followed.

Former rookie and seven-gamer Ivan Soldo did train on Wednesday and looms as the likely replacement for Nankervis if he fails to get up in time for Sunday's game.

"I think [Nankervis] has got a couple of sore spots but I'm not too sure what it is," defender Nick Vlastuin told AFL.com.au.

"Ivan Soldo has been playing really well in the twos, so I'm not sure what selection is but if 'Nank' doesn't pull up, and I think he'll be alright, but if he doesn't pull up well I suppose Soldo will come in and fill a role.

"He's been following up really well at ground level in the twos so I'll be excited if 'Nank' doesn't pull up that Soldo gets a go but either way we're confident that our midfielders can probably nullify Nic Nat around the ground."

A fresh Naitanui is set to come into the Eagles' side after missing last week's win over Greater Western Sydney due to a one-game suspension for tackling Port Adelaide's Karl Amon.

The high-flying ruckman has been on reduced minutes in his seven games this season after missing all of 2017 following a knee reconstruction.

Coach Adam Simpson has already indicated the week off may allow for him to play for longer against the Tigers.

Back-up ruckman Shaun Grigg also trained on Wednesday and looks set to reclaim his place in the Richmond side after missing the past two games with a hamstring injury.

Forward Jason Castagna (knock to the knee) missed the session and also appears to be in doubt, while defender Nathan Broad – who has a corked glute – mainly ran laps.

Fellow backmen Bachar Houli and Dylan Grimes were on light duties with veteran ruckman Shaun Hampson, who is struggling with an on-going back issue.

Dion Prestia didn't train and is likely to miss a second game because of the calf injury he picked up against Fremantle in round seven.

The Tigers will train again on Friday before holding their captain's run at Perth's Optus Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-16/tigers-ruckman-in-doubt-to-face-eagles
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on May 17, 2018, 10:25:28 AM
If George, Broad, Nank don't pass fitness tests would bring in Soldo, Garthwaite and Stengle. Would bring in Miles and Bolton and rest Higgins and Conca. Know this will never happen and that it is wishful thinking but mindful of the effects of travelling on players after the recent playing schedule.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 17, 2018, 01:40:20 PM
Replacing Castagna with Stengle & bringing in Soldo reduces our overall pace a fair bit.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 17, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
The Tigers look very much like travelling without Toby Nankervis after the ruckman hurt his wrist against North Melbourne last week. Richmond is keen to give Nankervis a rest at stages through the season and the injury, combined with long flights, will most likely see him given a break this week.

The taller and heavier Ivan Soldo will possibly be a better mix to take on Nic Naitanui as well.

Tigers fans will have to keep waiting for Dion Prestia’s return but Shaun Grigg will be back.

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/the-afl-rovers-early-word-on-round-nine-teams-a-couple-of-captains-come-back/15dwpl59r6zio1s9hwk3adttu2