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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 26, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
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One or two forced changes you'd expect after today :-\.
Houli (groin)
Jack (concussed)
Prestia to miss again according to Dimma.
Fire away with your changes?
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Need to bring in someone to win some clearances.
Hoping Jack is okay to play.
In: Grimes, Miles, Castagna
Out: Houli (inj), Graham, Higgins
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You would like to keep young kids in for a few games but Menadue stank it up
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Yep has to be said- Menadue was woeful to the point he almost drew attention away from the shyte Conca & Bellis served up....almost....:shh
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jack wont play.
we need to find a forward and fast. Moore is not that person, not even close
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jack wont play.
we need to find a forward and fast. Moore is not that person, not even close
Sorry to say Jack is not replaceable have to persist either with him or bring Soldo and play Nank forward.
Edit: Fixed quoting tags
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Bring in Soldo or Chol and put Nank up forward because Bellchambers isn’t much chop around the ground and I reckon Soldo will do alright against him. Bellchambers currently has 1 possession in 3/4 of footy vs Lobb. :rollin
If it’s wet then go small and bring Miles in.
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Graham needs a spell for me 3 possies till 3 qtr time 7 in total.No shame in going to vfl.
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Ins- Bolton, Rioli, Stengle to join Shane Edwards to represent, in the Dreamtime!!
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I also noticed that Bellchambers just thumped the ball 10 to 15 metres forward at the stoppages around the ground and essendrugs had players set up ready to receive.
I reckon they’ll be utilising this especially if we try a small in the ruck.
The injections are playing fast footy and they are applying heavy pressure and are tackling pretty fiercely in the last two games.
It’s going to be nteresting to see how we perform considering we currently aren’t anywhere near the level we need to be at the moment. I hope to see Prestia back this week for midfield balance we seem to be missing him a lot.
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Bring in Milo!!!
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Conca stunk it up today.
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Where do you start with the outs; Higgins, Conca, Moore, Ellis, Menadue plus the two possible injuries
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Higgins needs to learn his craft in the VFL . Kicks the ball too high like Bolton.
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jack wont play.
we need to find a forward and fast. Moore is not that person, not even close
Jack chaired Grigg off the ground at the end of the game. You wouldn't think the club docs would allow him to do that if he was still suffering the effects of concussion. Here's hoping he plays next week :pray.
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Conca and Graham are struggling
As is Higgins
We never make wholesale changes but if we are are going to lose the unloserable game , it’s next week if we don’t make changes
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Ins- Bolton, Rioli, Stengle to join Shane Edwards to represent, in the Dreamtime!!
:clapping
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I reckon McIntosh needs to go.
His defensive effort in the last qtr that lead to Gresham's 6th goal was lamentable. I know the pressure was off and we had one, but that is not what this Tiger's team is about.
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I reckon McIntosh needs to go.
His defensive effort in the last qtr that lead to Gresham's 6th goal was lamentable. I know the pressure was off and we had one, but that is not what this Tiger's team is about.
I reckon his effort in the 1st with him against 4 is what the coaches would be rapted in. Outside of what you've mentioned when the game was done. It was his best game in a while
Anyways....
I believe Jack will play so....
INS: Castagna, Rioli (just reckon they will roll the dice), Grimes
OUTS: BEllis, Menadue, Moore
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I reckon McIntosh needs to go.
His defensive effort in the last qtr that lead to Gresham's 6th goal was lamentable. I know the pressure was off and we had one, but that is not what this Tiger's team is about.
I reckon his effort in the 1st with him against 4 is what the coaches would be rapted in. Outside of what you've mentioned when the game was done. It was his best game in a while
Anyways....
I believe Jack will play so....
INS: Castagna, Rioli (just reckon they will roll the dice), Grimes
OUTS: BEllis, Menadue, Moore
You think Houli will play WP?
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Stengle and C Ellis should be in the mix. Moore may be replaced by Townsend. Garthwaite should have played instead of Conca against the saints. Drop Conca, Higgins and Menadue. Hopefully George, Grimes and Jack can play.
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I reckon McIntosh needs to go.
His defensive effort in the last qtr that lead to Gresham's 6th goal was lamentable. I know the pressure was off and we had one, but that is not what this Tiger's team is about.
I reckon his effort in the 1st with him against 4 is what the coaches would be rapted in. Outside of what you've mentioned when the game was done. It was his best game in a while
Anyways....
I believe Jack will play so....
INS: Castagna, Rioli (just reckon they will roll the dice), Grimes
OUTS: BEllis, Menadue, Moore
You think Houli will play WP?
As said elsewhere, he is out for 1 to 2 weeks.
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jack wont play.
we need to find a forward and fast. Moore is not that person, not even close
Jack chaired Grigg off the ground at the end of the game. You wouldn't think the club docs would allow him to do that if he was still suffering the effects of concussion. Here's hoping he plays next week :pray.
Jack chaired Grigg because they hoped the effects of concussion would lead to him dropping Grigg
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I reckon McIntosh needs to go.
His defensive effort in the last qtr that lead to Gresham's 6th goal was lamentable. I know the pressure was off and we had one, but that is not what this Tiger's team is about.
I reckon his effort in the 1st with him against 4 is what the coaches would be rapted in. Outside of what you've mentioned when the game was done. It was his best game in a while
Anyways....
I believe Jack will play so....
INS: Castagna, Rioli (just reckon they will roll the dice), Grimes
OUTS: BEllis, Menadue, Moore
You think Houli will play WP?
As said elsewhere, he is out for 1 to 2 weeks.
Ok if that's the case
Add Houli to the outs and Townsend to the ins
And BTW Higgins lucky
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Houli inj Moore . Menadue and Higgins out
Ins .Georgie . Grimes .Stengle and Rioli
Pressure has been down last few weeks so
Rioli might be considered
Jack Graham would need to extract the digit very very soon I reckon
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Houli inj Moore . Menadue and Higgins out
Ins .Georgie . Grimes .Stengle and Rioli
Pressure has been down last few weeks so
Rioli might be considered
Jack Graham would need to extract the digit very very soon I reckon
Graham won't be dropped. He is given the shutting down assignment by Dimma each week. He has been good rather than great at it. Opponents have been getting plenty of possessions but they are always under the hammer and rarely do anything destructive with their possessions so he stays. Not many of our players can run with others. Graham can.
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He should be dropped on current form.
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Here's my two cents worth
In Grimes, Castagna, C Ellis
Outs, Houli, Moore, Higgins
Keep Menadue for his speed and he needs a few weeks at the level to get used to it. Higgins looks a little out of it and could use some vfl time.
It's going to be wet so go smaller and pressure the bombers so they have no space.
If reiwoldt doesn't come up, keep Moore in.
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Also Rioli probably needs a few weeks in the vfl and after the bye for him.
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Here's my two cents worth
In Grimes, Castagna, C Ellis
Outs, Houli, Moore, Higgins
Keep Menadue for his speed and he needs a few weeks at the level to get used to it. Higgins looks a little out of it and could use some vfl time.
It's going to be wet so go smaller and pressure the bombers so they have no space.
If reiwoldt doesn't come up, keep Moore in.
at this stage its not going to be, but its melbs and that may change
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Houli inj Moore . Menadue and Higgins out
Ins .Georgie . Grimes .Stengle and Rioli
Pressure has been down last few weeks so
Rioli might be considered
Jack Graham would need to extract the digit very very soon I reckon
Graham won't be dropped. He is given the shutting down assignment by Dimma each week. He has been good rather than great at it. Opponents have been getting plenty of possessions but they are always under the hammer and rarely do anything destructive with their possessions so he stays. Not many of our players can run with others. Graham can.
Tackling and pressure is great but he’s part of our midfield group so he either needs to find more of the ball or actually shut the down the opposition mid. Sub 10disposals while pressuring an opposition mid all the way to 40 disposals isn’t enough value to hold a midfield spot.
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Houli inj Moore . Menadue and Higgins out
Ins .Georgie . Grimes .Stengle and Rioli
Pressure has been down last few weeks so
Rioli might be considered
Jack Graham would need to extract the digit very very soon I reckon
Graham won't be dropped. He is given the shutting down assignment by Dimma each week. He has been good rather than great at it. Opponents have been getting plenty of possessions but they are always under the hammer and rarely do anything destructive with their possessions so he stays. Not many of our players can run with others. Graham can.
Tackling and pressure is great but he’s part of our midfield group so he either needs to find more of the ball or actually shut the down the opposition mid. Sub 10disposals while pressuring an opposition mid all the way to 40 disposals isn’t enough value to hold a midfield spot.
At least the majority of his own disposals are quality ones that open the game. I think you can get too hung up on the numbers without looking at what the disposal actually does. Like when Cotchin was getting a million ring around the rosy possessions versus now getting less overall but they are far more damaging.
Only the coaches know if Graham is doing his job.
I for one thought he was average in game one but was shocked to hear that Graham's game against Carlton was the only time any player has got over 100 pressure points all season from any team.
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Hearing that Jack's a good chance not to get up Saturday night.
If that's the case, thoughts on Chol coming in for him?
From what I saw in the VFL he's looking much closer to it than previously. I'd have him ahead of CCJ and Balta.
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Balta for mine if I had a choice....
However, they are too conservative to take a punt like that in a big game IMHO.
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Good win by the boys under the circumstances.
Out
Houli
Higgins
In
George
Grimes
Should Jack not get up bring in Soldo and play Nank deep forward.
Moore and Menadue played a role and don't forget it normally takes a few games to adjust from VFL to AFL.
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A bit hard on Moore to drop him considering he was our only tall forward . He was double teamed all night and ended up with 14 possessions
We lacked tackle pressure in our forward line against the Saints which will influence if players keep a spot.
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IMO,
IN: Rioli, Castanga, Miles, Grimes
OUT: Conca, Graham, Menadue, Higgins
Conca - turns it over
Graham - out of form
Rioli, Castanga, Bulter to apply that tackling pressure I50.
Miles’ last chance to proof he can also have an outside game.
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If Jack doesn't come up, then I think Moore stays. But he will need some taller support.
It wouldn't suprise me if we threw Astbury forward and got one of our promising talls (Balta, Miller, Chol) to come in and have a run in defence.
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It wouldn't suprise me if we threw Astbury forward and got one of our promising talls (Balta, Miller, Chol) to come in and have a run in defence.
That's what we should be doing anyway.... :shh
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Bring in the Soldo man...
Nank foward.
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Outs: BEllis (kick the bloody thing FORWARD more than 20 metres! it’s not 2016!),
Conca (he is what he is),
Houli (groin),
Broad (has been rubbish the last two weeks)
Ins: Miles (extractor, we need to get more clearances),
Markov (show BEllis how he should play),
Grimes (our backline isn’t complete without him),
Castagna (we need more pressure inside F50)
I dream of a team with Miles and without Conca and BEllis :rollin
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I think Ellis will get another game, especially with Houli out. Don't think Markov has got footy in him since coming back from injury yet.
I would think
INS:
Grimes
Stengle
George
OUTS:
Houli
Higgins
Menadue
Rioli would clearly want to play but they will hold him back and take no chances with him
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A bit hard on Moore to drop him considering he was our only tall forward . He was double teamed all night and ended up with 14 possessions
We lacked tackle pressure in our forward line against the Saints which will influence if players keep a spot.
Agree.
I thought he did pretty good. Competed hard and brought the footy to ground. Presented well and wasn’t lazy. The only knock is that he has a terrible ball drop and that’s why you never know where the ball is going to end up. Three shots at goal was a pretty good return although it would’ve been better if he kicked a couple. He did have a hand in two goals though.
What was pleasing was that he took 6 marks as the only tall inside F50.
I’m not sure what we are expect him to be? He’s no Jack but he did ok, problem is we don’t have two Jack Riewoldts. If he apply more pressure no reason he can’t stay there for a few more games.
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Calling for Brandon to come out :lol
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Calling for Brandon to come out :lol
Second most frustrating player next to Reece Conca.
.......And softer than marshmallows.
He was good in last years finals but for some reason he’s gone back to his standard fair which is extremely safe. He also is gone into his shell in terms of timidity. Too scared to attack the contest like its his last.
I thought we had seen the last of BEllis after last years finals series but he’s back and the whole team is worse for it. Personally I’d like to see him play wing but if he’s going to shirk contests and kick 20 metre sideways options I’d rather have him play vfl or play in someone else’s team.
Look, I’m not the only one that sees it. The match committee saw it too and the only reason he’s back is because of injuries not form.
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Wasn't dropped entirely due to form actually :shh
He gave us some good run on the weekend at times & he did put in some brave efforts too. You lads mark him harshly because of how good he's been for the club, you expect better and I don't mind that. But just be patient, it'll come boys.
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Calling for Brandon to come out :lol
...of the closet? :shh
Wasn't dropped entirely due to form actually :shh
He gave us some good run on the weekend at times & he did put in some brave efforts too. You lads mark him harshly because of how good he's been for the club, you expect better and I don't mind that. But just be patient, it'll come boys.
You need to accept the fact the club's gone his type....higher standards now... :shh :shh
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Calling for Brandon to come out :lol
...of the closet? :shh
Wasn't dropped entirely due to form actually :shh
He gave us some good run on the weekend at times & he did put in some brave efforts too. You lads mark him harshly because of how good he's been for the club, you expect better and I don't mind that. But just be patient, it'll come boys.
You need to except the fact the club's gone his type....higher standards now... :shh :shh
Gotta get spellcheck on my man :shh
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Fixed...now sod off & stick to the spamming the politics thr...oh wait you're not '65.... :shh
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:shh
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The Barometer - Round 11
Herald-Sun
28 May 2018
ON THE BLOCK: First-year small forward Jack Higgins has failed to kick a goal from his past two games (he wasn’t helped by the score review) and had limited impact against the Saints on Saturday. Bachar Houli (groin) and Jack Riewoldt (concussion) are in doubt for Saturday night’s clash with Essendon after both sat out the second half against St Kilda. The Tigers say they’ll monitor Riewoldt this week, the club to undergo “correct protocol”, but the full forward was spotted up and about in the rooms after receiving a heavy bump.
ON THE CUSP: Corey Ellis was Richmond’s best in the VFL on Saturday with 28 disposals. In his second game back from a broken foot, Daniel Rioli stepped up his game time to record 12 disposals while Sam Lloyd (33 disposals, four goals) and Jacob Townsend (22 disposals, two goals) responded strongly after being dropped. Jason Castagna was rested for the Saints clash and should come straight back in.
CHRIS CAVANAGH’S FORECAST: Essendon on Saturday night in the Dreamtime game will not be the easy kill it looked set to be a few weeks ago after impressive consecutive wins by the Bombers, over Geelong and GWS. The Tigers have won their past 14 games at the MCG and will still be favoured to make that 15, but it will be a tough task especially if Riewoldt misses.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/barometer-every-clubs-injury-list-plus-who-might-be-going-in-and-out-of-your-afl-team-for-round-11/news-story/96cd04fae3eb2ecbb990245b13cb792f
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I’d drop Moore and Menadue for the game against the Dons. The heat will be on and those two aren’t up to it yet physically.
We will need strong bodies.
Jack will play...
Outs- Moore, Manadue, Higgins, Houli
Ins- Grimes, Georgie, Townsend, Stengle
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I’d drop Moore and Menadue for the game against the Dons. The heat will be on and those two aren’t up to it yet physically.
We will need strong bodies.
Jack will play...
Outs- Moore, Manadue, Higgins, Houli
Ins- Grimes, Georgie, Townsend, Stengle
Like it. :clapping
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Forward Jack Riewoldt is looking good to return against Essendon on Saturday night after being concussed against the Saints, with Thursday's training session to prove critical.
Defender Dylan Grimes will return from back soreness if he trains fully this week while Jason Castagna is "50-50" as he recovers from a hyperextended knee.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-28/double-blow-for-tigers-running-brigade
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Jack trained today :thumbsup.
Still no certainty to play as he is still following "concussion protocols" but a good sign nevertheless.
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Leave Moore in was serviceable was always involved and didn't have Jack there to help him to.Need to give him a block of games built confidence we desperately need to develop another tall by rd 22 to give our game another dimension to.
Graham needs a spell to guys no shame in that pressure acts are not enought isn't getting his hands on the footy at all needs to go to vfl and earn his spot again.
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Richmond medical report
Dr Greg Hickey: Riewoldt treated for concussion. Required immediate assessment by a doctor. Left playing surface because of incident.
No ongoing treatment required. No days missed training. not expected to miss a game.
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Richmond medical report
Dr Greg Hickey: Riewoldt treated for concussion. Required immediate assessment by a doctor. Left playing surface because of incident.
No ongoing treatment required. No days missed training. not expected to miss a game.
Interesting. Source?
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Richmond medical report
Dr Greg Hickey: Riewoldt treated for concussion. Required immediate assessment by a doctor. Left playing surface because of incident.
No ongoing treatment required. No days missed training. not expected to miss a game.
Interesting. Source?
Tribunal transcript
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Thanks TT.
I heard otherwise, but excellent news :thumbsup
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Agree with Georgie, Thought Moore was ok for first game of the year, would like to let him get a few more, I was happy with Menadue as well, Graham did look a bit tired but he doesn't quit.
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Agree with Georgie, Thought Moore was ok for first game of the year, would like to let him get a few more, I was happy with Menadue as well, Graham did look a bit tired but he doesn't quit.
Thought Menedue couldn't have done much more to send himself back to the VFL, but agree with others that you need to give them more than one game to settle.
He wouldn't want to repeat that again though as his ball handling was putrid
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I'd go:
Out: Houli, Graham (managed), Higgins
In: Grimes, Miles, Castagna (if fit)
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Grimes and Jack deemed fit to play.
Grimes in for houli.
Higgo out for Rioli (have a sneeky feeling about him being selected)
Not sure if george gets up.
Go the tiges! Sheez i hate this mob.
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Grimes and Jack deemed fit to play.
Grimes in for houli.
Higgo out for Rioli (have a sneeky feeling about him being selected)
Not sure if george gets up.
Go the tiges! Sheez i hate this mob.
I am wrong It seems, no Rioli.
Either George or Stengle for Higgo.
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Grimes and Jack deemed fit to play.
Grimes in for houli.
Higgo out for Rioli (have a sneeky feeling about him being selected)
Not sure if george gets up.
Go the tiges! Sheez i hate this mob.
I am wrong It seems, no Rioli.
Either George or Stengle for Higgo.
Stengle was on one leg last VFL match. Also George said that he would be back this week.
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George for young Jack then.
Looking forward to this game. Should be a good challenge given the Bombers are travelling okay at the minute