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Title: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Owl on July 21, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 21, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 21, 2018, 08:28:27 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
:clapping

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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2018, 01:40:29 AM
AFL Round 19

RICHMOND vs Collingwood


Saturday, July 28, 2018 @ the M.C.G.

Start time: 1:45 PM


Odds (Crownbet)
Richmond    $1.42
Collingwood $2.85

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/19/rich-v-coll
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2018, 08:11:23 AM
4 Points: Best of enemies working from the same playbook

Michael Gleeson
The Age
23 July 2018


Collingwood’s midfield, combined with their defensive method and approach across the ground, was so good that North were shut out of the game.

Richmond plays with a 1-5 forward set up, with Jack Riewoldt as the one. Riewoldt is in the best form of his career. If Moore can persuade his body to work for him not against him this week, he would most likely take Riewoldt, just because he would take on the best of the big forwards of any team.

Richmond tends not to play another tall forward, so wouldn't stretch Collingwood’s defence. But they have a spread of fast small forwards and these have been Collingwood’s Achilles heel more than tall forwards.

Collingwood’s attack is as unconventional as Richmond’s. Few other teams play with one key and a remainder of smalls like Richmond. No other team has a 213-centimetre American and a late-arriving journeyman VFL role player as their talls, and then a bunch of ‘‘tall-smalls’’, the 188-centimetre fast medium-sized forwards who are good overhead.

Mason Cox was missing last week and his return proved again how important he has become to Collingwood structurally to have that big target who marks, gets a free for arm chopping or holding, or brings the ball to ground.

Will Hoskin-Elliott was clearly still upset by his knee last week, but looked better on Saturday. Jaidyn Stephenson again hit the scoreboard against North, and Jordan de Goey built on the body of work that he is one of the most dynamic power players in the game. De Goey playing against Richmond will be like master and apprentice for him and Dustin Martin. Along with Cam Rayner, de Goey is the player who most closely resembles Martin’s style of game.

De Goey plays more forward than Martin and is as dangerous as the Tiger's star when playing as a forward. He has yet to prove he can be as reliably effective as a midfielder. Martin’s field kicking is better, he opens the game up and penetrates deep forward with 60-metre flat passes. Richmond’s approach has been to start Martin as a midfielder and then go forward from the bounce. Most teams tend to roll a midfielder off him, and a defender onto him when forward, but he loses opponents in transition.

Collingwood could consider playing Levi Greenwood on Martin all over the ground. Greenwood is a rare tagger strong enough overhead to be comfortable isolated deep in defence. Nathan Buckley tends not to like tagging one player (unless it is Greenwood on Joel Selwood) because of the effect it has on the positioning and roles of other players, but could consider it with Martin.

This game is a genuine blockbuster in a way so many of the games of big rivals on big days with big crowds are not. This is two big Victorian power clubs with big supporter bases who play the most watchable brands of footy, sitting one and three on the ladder on a Saturday afternoon at the MCG with the game not on free to air but only for the small pay-TV audience. A crowd of 90,000 would be expected.

The two teams play similar games after Collingwood borrowed almost entirely from the Tigers’ play book – finish 13th, have your coach clinging to his job, do a searching review, turn over assistant coaches and allied staff on advice of a grizzled footy director, get the coach to lighten up, simplify the game to defence first and pressure over the ground - then watch the wins mount up.

They both like fast ball movement and have been troubled by the slow possession games of other teams, but are unlikely to get that from each other. Richmond tends to handball the ball forward more than Collingwood, while Collingwood’s non-key forwards are mid-sized players and stronger overhead than Richmond’s. Collingwood doesn’t have an Alex Rance at the other end. But who does?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/4-points-best-of-enemies-working-from-the-same-playbook-20180722-p4zsyt.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: TFL on July 23, 2018, 08:16:21 AM
Tom Browne reporting on MMM that Sidebottom has a cracked jaw and expected to miss the game
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2018, 08:26:20 AM
Tom Browne reporting on MMM that Sidebottom has a cracked jaw and expected to miss the game
Sam McClure on SEN said Sidebottom's jaw is okay and he is a "certainty" to play against us [Garry Lyon added as long as he doesn't cop another knock to it at training].

We'll find out who is right on Saturday.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 23, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 23, 2018, 01:46:15 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 23, 2018, 03:53:08 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: dwaino on July 23, 2018, 04:26:45 PM
I want revenge for the trade war and revenge for years of misery kicked off by these scum, I want their hopes snuffed out and crushed, that is all.
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Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mat073 on July 23, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
Collingwood certainly have that "Richmond 2017" feel about them . They looked ominous against North on the weekend . This is a real test on where we're at . Not sure if our run against witches hats on the weekend did us any good .
Must keep the MCG fortress record in tact .
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 23, 2018, 04:55:10 PM
Collingwood certainly have that "Richmond 2017" feel about them . They looked ominous against North on the weekend . This is a real test on where we're at . Not sure if our run against witches hats on the weekend did us any good .
Must keep the MCG fortress record in tact .
Both North and Sydney were flat after their game the week before. Both got beaten easily.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 23, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
Arrogant and Cocky bunch from players to coach and president and fans yet achieved nothing yet this mob.Already talk starting how pies can beat tigers in media same as previous game a moral 7 goal loss.We bring our A game pressure and tackling and run hard play 4 qtrs we win this.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: dwaino on July 23, 2018, 06:42:18 PM
Can't wait for big dog to go in and claim what's ours.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 23, 2018, 06:46:15 PM
Sidebottom in a bit of doubt as he is having a "Broad" operation......  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 23, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
confirmed because apparently its not the case as per channel 9?

not sure what it is about this mob but gee this clash and other than finals i'm not sure what would be sweeter than this 4 points come 430 saturday

Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 23, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
confirmed?

not sure what it is about this mob but gee this clash and other than finals i'm not sure what would be sweeter than this 4 points come 430 saturday
It is FACT even if they deny it...  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2018, 07:44:20 PM
The AFL website is tipping us to win by 22 pts.


Match preview: Richmond v Collingwood

Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Jul 23, 2018


SUMMARY

The anticipation for this clash began building after the Magpies' sixth win in a row in round 15 catapulted them to second on the ladder behind the top-placed Tigers. Since, their round 17 loss to West Coast has relegated them to third but the hype hasn't abated, and why should it? Two big Victorian clubs, in form and marching towards September, in what many hope is a preview to a hotly contested final, at the MCG on a Saturday afternoon. The Tigers have recent bragging rights, having won the last three, including their round six clash by 43 points, but both teams will go in full of confidence after comprehensive victories over St Kilda and North Melbourne respectively in round 18. The Pies expect to regain Darcy Moore and have declared Steele Sidebottom a likely starter despite a head clash on Saturday while the Tigers are a chance to see Bachar Houli return.   

WHERE AND WHEN: the MCG, Saturday, July 28, 1.45pm AEST

LAST FIVE MEETINGS

R6, 2018, Richmond 16.17 (113) d Collingwood 10.10 (70) at the MCG
R2, 2017, Richmond 14.15 (99) d Collingwood 11.14 (80) at the MCG
R20, 2016, Richmond 14.8 (92) d Collingwood 11.11 (77) at the MCG
R2, 2016, Collingwood 13.9 (87) d Richmond 12.14 (86) at the MCG
R21, 2015, Richmond 23.9 (147) d Collingwood 7.14 (56) at the MCG

THE SIX POINTS

1. The Tigers remain undefeated at the MCG this season, having won all 10 of their matches there. They've won 22 of their last 24 starts at the venue since the start of 2017.

2. The Magpies are also MCG tenants, but haven't been quite as formidable there this season. They've won six games and lost five in 2018, but their run of recent form sees five of those wins from their last six starts.

3. There's a reason these two teams are pacesetters. The Tigers are ranked second for scoring and the Pies third, but there's more of a discrepancy when it comes to defence. The Tigers are ranked first in that area and the Pies eighth.

4. Josh Caddy, Jack Riewoldt and Dan Butler combined for 10 goals in round six. It was the first of four times this season Caddy has kicked four or more goals in a year that has him second at the club with 34 behind Jack Riewoldt (41).

5. There's been a big difference in the way these two teams play. The Pies continue to be the highest-disposal side with an average of 407 per game – and are the highest ranked uncontested possession team – while the Tigers are 13th with an average of 367.5. 

6. Fatherhood has agreed with Will Hoskin-Elliott this season with the former Giant enjoying a solid year. He put two quiet games behind him on the weekend to kick three against the Kangaroos and rise in the Schick AFL Player Ratings to 121st overall.

IT’S A BIG WEEK FOR…

Toby Nankervis and Brodie Grundy fought out an enthralling battle back in round six, with the Tigers' big man winning the battle around the ground and the Magpie claiming the points in the ruck contests. Nankervis fought back after Grundy got the early jump, so both will be keen to assert themselves on the contest from the word go.


PREDICTION: Richmond by 22 points


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-23/match-preview-richmond-v-collingwood
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 24, 2018, 11:15:26 PM
We're now everybody's Grand Final ...



Collingwood utility Tom Phillips says this weekend’s mouth-watering clash against top-of-the-table Richmond is like a “mini Grand Final.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/24/magpies-star-phillips-describes-tigers-blockbuster-as-a-'mini-grand-final'/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: cub on July 25, 2018, 07:47:25 AM
confirmed because apparently its not the case as per channel 9?

not sure what it is about this mob but gee this clash and other than finals i'm not sure what would be sweeter than this 4 points come 430 saturday
Yep, the only reason Im worried is because I cant stand losing to this mob.
That said I reckon we have them covered and if we bring it, quite easily!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 25, 2018, 09:42:51 AM
Sidebottom didn't need plating in the end. Just needed the fracture reduced. So pretty likely he'll play.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
Seems the Pies gameplan this week is to try to win it out of the middle cleanly and kick it to Mason Cox one out hoping to bypass Rance. Good luck with that lol :whistle.

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Saturday will mark the second time in 2018 the Magpies and Tigers have faced off at the MCG. A round six match-up resulted in a 43-point Richmond win, despite Collingwood holding a half time lead.

Pendlebury believes the lessons learned will be crucial to overcoming the reigning premiers this time around.

While star defender Alex Rance poses a constant threat, the five-time Copeland Trophy winner is more focussed on what’s expected to be a star-studded midfield match-up.

“For us, the battle starts way before that battle with Rance. It starts around the footy,” he said.

“We can’t afford to be sloppy with our ball use and switch off and let Rance just roll over and help out a teammate by taking a mark.

“(But) you can’t get preoccupied with where he is... If we see him one-on-one with Mason Cox this weekend, we have to take that. That’s a good look for us inside 50 and we need to make him defend.”

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2018-07-24/pendlebury-how-we-can-beat-the-tigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 25, 2018, 10:33:11 AM
confirmed because apparently its not the case as per channel 9?

not sure what it is about this mob but gee this clash and other than finals i'm not sure what would be sweeter than this 4 points come 430 saturday
Yep, the only reason Im worried is because I cant stand losing to this mob.
That said I reckon we have them covered and if we bring it, quite easily!


Correct. If it were any other club in the 8 I wouldn’t be that worried but something about losing to this scum in such a big game doesn’t sit well with me

8 point game for 2 reasons but the biggest is to send eddie and his stooges back where they belong and snuff out any hope of a 2017 type September surge 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on July 25, 2018, 11:25:59 AM
That big American dude is much improved but the Rance at his best will take him to the cleaners if we put enough pressure on their mids when delivering inside 50
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: pmac21 on July 25, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
That big American dude is much improved but the Rance at his best will take him to the cleaners if we put enough pressure on their mids when delivering inside 50

Astbury will play on Cox. 

Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 25, 2018, 12:19:59 PM
Easy. Just work him under the ball and Our backs are expert at doing this.

If it’s raining then it’s going to be easier for us anyway.

I think it’s the middle where we need to be at our best. They have some real good mids even without Treloar and we need to be on our pressure game from the outset. Youngster Graham is a big loss in that respect because he pounds them all game. I’m not too worried but if we are 5%off that could be a massive problem.

I also think we are due to kick straight, if that occurs we will win easily. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 25, 2018, 01:00:22 PM
I agree Astbury will take him and Rance or Broad coming in to help him when they can.As someone said work him towards the ground and ground ball we a very good at.Starts from the middle tho not given them easy ball and locking it in pressure and tackling.Also going forward not bombing it in for Howe easy marks make him accountable.Looking up and hitting targets.We can expose there undersize backline.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on July 25, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
That big American dude is much improved but the Rance at his best will take him to the cleaners if we put enough pressure on their mids when delivering inside 50

Astbury will play on Cox.
Possibly. Rance will stand him at different times you'd think, like any other time we've played against big Cox
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Diocletian on July 25, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
Cox may not even play..... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2018, 08:32:08 PM
Magpies won’t get “cute” during Tigers clash says Buckley

By SEN
25 July 2018


Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley says the Magpies won’t be getting “cute” with match-ups and structure in this Saturday’s clash with Richmond.

With some projecting the Pies and Tigers could clash in a late September blockbuster in this season’s finals series, Buckley has confirmed potentially hiding or trialling certain match-ups isn’t on the agenda.

“I don’t think we are in a position to be too cute with that and we won’t be,” he told SEN’s Whateley.

“We will play the game on its merits and we will continue to tip into what we think works for us.

“We have said it consistently, whether we are coming up against Richmond or Sydney the week after or Brisbane the week after that, we will continue to look at us and to look at our strengths and how we can apply that against any opposition.

“We won’t be too cute about projecting too far forward.”

Buckley also confirmed Steele Sidebottom and Mason Cox are certain starters for the clash.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/25/magpies-won't-get-cute-during-tigers-clash-says-buckley/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2018, 01:26:21 PM
DE GOEY RULED OUT...

HUGE!!

Now lets send them to the cleaners
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: 1965 on July 26, 2018, 01:27:09 PM
DE GOEY RULED OUT...

HUGE!!

Now lets send them to the cleaners


https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jordan-de-goey-out-for-at-least-two-weeks-20180726-p4ztq8.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 26, 2018, 01:40:32 PM
The clash between the top-of-the-table Tigers and the third-placed Magpies is the match of the round, with Hardwick wary of the improvement the Pies have added to their game since their last clash earlier this season.

"They've been terrific. I remember after we played them in round six, I thought they were an outstanding side then," he said.

"We took some things we thought they were doing really well, we looked at those and added a few of those dynamics to our game as well.

"Bucks is coaching them really well and they're playing really well, they're really tough to beat, they've got a great system in place and they play that system really well.

"It's going to be an incredible challenge for us to try and beat them but we certainly look forward to that, there are some things in our game we look forward to challenging ourselves against and seeing how the game pans out."

Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-26/tiger-houli-set-for-mini-preseason)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: pmac21 on July 26, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
De Goey didn't look like getting near it last time on Grimes but in saying that handy out although it would nice to beat them with no excuses.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Diocletian on July 26, 2018, 02:49:15 PM
Surely we're now beyond the days of being scared of playing against full-strength line-ups.... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on July 26, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
Agree with that. Would prefer JDG to line up for them.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: dwaino on July 26, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Would rather play them full strength so we don’t have to our up with their crap about having injuries.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2018, 06:45:35 PM
Would rather play them full strength so we don’t have to our up with their crap about having injuries.

didnt we play them full strength last time and won?

stuff em mate, we need to bury them
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: dwaino on July 26, 2018, 06:48:19 PM
Would rather play them full strength so we don’t have to our up with their crap about having injuries.

didnt we play them full strength last time and won?

stuff em mate, we need to bury them

I don’t know. I made the mistake of venturing to the footy boards on BigFooty and apparently they’re a 40 point better side with their outs back in.

Would love to play them in the finals and fist them without lube for the third time in the same season.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 27, 2018, 01:46:24 AM
Can Collingwood catch Tigers and flag their grand intentions?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/can-collingwood-flag-their-grand-intentions-against-richmond-20180726-p4zttl.html

The more the media pump up the Pies, the sweeter it will be when we deflate them by giving Collingwood another reality check :yep.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Slipper on July 27, 2018, 09:13:19 AM
De Goey didn't look like getting near it last time on Grimes but in saying that handy out although it would nice to beat them with no excuses.

Beating Collingwood with no excuses is impossible.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on July 27, 2018, 02:24:54 PM
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https://twitter.com/AFLrecord
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Buddysucks on July 28, 2018, 02:05:19 PM
So apparently no prior opportunity doesn’t apply if you’re wearing yellow and black?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: JP Tiger on July 28, 2018, 02:10:42 PM
SHORTYYYY!!!  x2 ...     ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 02:17:25 PM
Shorty making sure this year he's doesn't get dropped late in the season. Been on fire.

So apparently no prior opportunity doesn’t apply if you’re wearing yellow and black?
Pick the umpire pets club that has the best free kick differential compared to us which has the worst.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 02:22:17 PM
Quarter time

Richmond  5.2-32
Coll'wood   2.1-13

Goals: Short 2, Riewoldt, Castagna, Townsend.


On top in the last 15 mins. Makes a massive difference when you kick straight (yes Georgie).

Got to love those massive bombs from Shorty  :bow :clapping.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 28, 2018, 02:49:38 PM
Got to keep it going good strat kicking straight keep pressure and hard running up  :gotigers.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 02:59:14 PM
Half time

Richmond    5.2   8.3-51
Coll'wood     2.1   7.1-43

Goals: Short 2, Riewoldt 2, Martin, Castagna, Townsend, Caddy.

Thank gawd for that last second goal to Dusty. A crap last 10 mins. Lost too many 1-on-1s which we were winning in the first quarter. Dimma will give them a blast during the break.

ps. Umps wearing B&W. Head high tackles allowed against us  ::).
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 28, 2018, 03:01:39 PM
Dusty is getting his pants pulled down by Adams and the Pies players are letting him know all about it. Let’s hope he gets his head right and that late goal gives him some confidence.

As a team it would be nice to get some midfield dominance so we can take advantage of Howe not in defence. We should start to flex the muscle now.

Nank leading our clearances atm

Lambert has done nothing.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 28, 2018, 03:24:03 PM
Last 10 minutes lost our way have come firing in 3 rd qtr.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
How about Higgo's freakish goal  :o.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 28, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
Ramp it up tigers defence been a bit sloppy.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: pmac21 on July 28, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
Midfield is getting an absolute hiding out there today.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 03:49:23 PM
3/4 time

Richmond    5.2    8.3    11.6-72
Coll'wood     2.1    7.1    11.2-68

Goals: Short 2, Riewoldt 2, Martin 2, Castagna 2, Townsend, Caddy, Higgins.



We butchered chances inside our forward 50 while they couldn't miss (until that last second shot). We need to be smarter and cleaner going forward. Too many kicks forward ending up in Collingwood hands for rebounds off their HB line.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 28, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
3/4 time

Richmond    5.2    8.3    11.6-72
Coll'wood     2.1    7.1    11.2-68

Goals: Short 2, Riewoldt 2, Martin 2, Castagna 2, Townsend, Caddy, Higgins.



We butchered chances inside our forward 50 while they couldn't miss (until that last second shot). We need to be smarter and cleaner going forward. Too many kicks forward ending up in Collingwood hands for rebounds off their HB line.

Agree look up not just kick in our 50 and take our chances.Midfield needs to regroup to to easy where is the pressure and tackling and drive.Dimma should give them a rocket.Defence been clumsy at times to.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 04:21:43 PM
:gotigers

Final Score

Richmond    5.2    8.3    11.6     16.9-105
Coll'wood     2.1    7.1    11.2     12.5-77

Goals: Martin 3, Riewoldt 3, Short 2, Castagna 2, Townsend 2, Caddy, Higgins, Edwards, Rioli.

Crowd: 88,180


Broke the opposition again in the last quarter  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2018, 04:48:53 PM
The main positive today for mine was we won without our big guns having their usual influence. Cotch, Rioli, Rance and Dusty (aside from his 3 goals playing deep forward) were contained. Compare that to Collingwood who still lost despite Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Phillips, Adams & Thomas getting a stack of it.

Thought Broad & Astbury were our best today. Jack our best of those forward of the ball.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Slipper on July 28, 2018, 05:01:05 PM
Collingwood certainly have that "Richmond 2017" feel about them . They looked ominous against North on the weekend . This is a real test on where we're at . Not sure if our run against witches hats on the weekend did us any good .
Must keep the MCG fortress record in tact .


The Pies still haven't beaten a quality team this year.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: pmac21 on July 28, 2018, 05:05:21 PM
Bests Broad, Edwards, Reiwoldt
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: georgies31 on July 28, 2018, 06:08:58 PM
The main positive today for mine was we won without our big guns having their usual influence. Cotch, Rioli, Rance and Dusty (aside from his 3 goals playing deep forward) were contained. Compare that to Collingwood who still lost despite Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Phillips, Adams & Thomas getting a stack of it.

Thought Broad & Astbury were our best today. Jack our best of those forward of the ball.

Hit the nail on the head.Take the 4 pts and win move on.Can't play pretty all the time have to dog out games sometimes.Good sign when our big guns don't all fire we still capable.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: mat073 on July 28, 2018, 06:24:25 PM
Collingwood at full strength scare me a little - hopefully they are knocked out before they get to us .
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Rampsation on July 28, 2018, 07:43:10 PM
I felt Collingwood gave us their best shot. They were missing Treloar and Degoey which means they were seriously hampered and they lost two players during the game. I thought they were really good. and yes they could pose a problem, but we are missing players too.
I felt we needed a big man up forward, a Callum Coleman Jones type who could take advantage of the pies midget defence and also help
out Nank in the ruck. In finals we will not be able to go against Collingwood with only 1 ruck, they did us over whenever Nank was off the ground. ANYWAY it was a good win and now we have an extra game break on Collingwood. It was an important win for us and hopefully
our players will go on with it from here.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 28, 2018, 08:42:05 PM
I to thought Collingwood were very impressive. Really like their midfield. But for all their midfield dominance they still failed.

We were poo for the second and third quarter. Lost every facet of the game but we were still in front.

This means we have a lot of improving to do and I believe come finals we will turn it up a notch like last year.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 28, 2018, 09:09:30 PM
Bests Broad, Edwards, Reiwoldt

Thought broad was great! Would also throw in astbury and prior to that massive hit Prestia was all over it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 28, 2018, 09:19:01 PM
And also be prepared for the weekly headlines/tv segments/talkback radio to be praising Collingwood in defeat rather than us in victory.....
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: big tone on July 28, 2018, 09:26:21 PM
I haven’t read much of this thread and I apologise if the answer has already been given, but who was playing on Thomas today?
He kicked 4 but he also ran around by himself all day.
I would hope if an opposition forward has 3 goals on the board, Dimma would lock someone down on him from that point.
You put Grimes on him and his day is over.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Chuck17 on July 28, 2018, 09:28:27 PM
Seen Baker on him once but he wouldn’t have been on him all game

Not sure who was but I guess it would be Short or Ellis
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: big tone on July 28, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
Seen Baker on him once but he wouldn’t have been on him all game

Not sure who was but I guess it would be Short or Ellis
Yer I saw Short stand next to him after one of his goals but I don’t think he played on him all day.

I’d like to blame Ellis as I can’t stand him but that’s probably not real fair.  :whistle
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 28, 2018, 10:06:16 PM
Seen Baker on him once but he wouldn’t have been on him all game

Not sure who was but I guess it would be Short or Ellis
Yer I saw Short stand next to him after one of his goals but I don’t think he played on him all day.

I’d like to blame Ellis as I can’t stand him but that’s probably not real fair.  :whistle
Yes. I blame Ellis and also I reckon Dusty was channeling Conca with his field kicking today just so the boys don’t forget what they had when the redwog was at his turnover best.  :rollin
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 28, 2018, 10:11:04 PM
I think our forward line is missing Butler big time. Our pressure inside 50 went awol for the second and third quarters especially as did our mids. Prestia fought hard all day. Most of the rest were way down on the required output and pressure.

I suppose we miss the youngster Graham more than I realise. Does the hard work at harassing the opposition mids. We really miss that atm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: cub on July 28, 2018, 11:09:00 PM
stuff that feral poo club
All the luck today, they can pee off
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 29, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Big win for the team yesterday, we were obliterated through the midfield for the most part and it highlighted just how good our backline is along with how poor Collingwood kick the ball i50. The second Ruck issue has the potential to cost us a final. It doesn’t have to be another ruck but it cannot be an ageing midfielder.
I think Collingwood desperately need a key forward. Jack was again under valued yesterday.
Our last quarter was incredible - it cannot be an accident and I wonder if our rotations set us up in the last quarter? Not unlike some of the big NBA clubs like Golden State and the Celtics.
I’d like to see us step up soon for 4 q, while we are the best side in the comp, our current football isn’t winning us a flag. To come this far in the season and not win back to back would be shattering
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Lebowski on July 29, 2018, 12:16:31 PM
Big win for the team yesterday, we were obliterated through the midfield for the most part and it highlighted just how good our backline is along with how poor Collingwood kick the ball i50. The second Ruck issue has the potential to cost us a final. It doesn’t have to be another ruck but it cannot be an ageing midfielder.
I think Collingwood desperately need a key forward. Jack was again under valued yesterday.
Our last quarter was incredible - it cannot be an accident and I wonder if our rotations set us up in the last quarter? Not unlike some of the big NBA clubs like Golden State and the Celtics.
I’d like to see us step up soon for 4 q, while we are the best side in the comp, our current football isn’t winning us a flag. To come this far in the season and not win back to back would be shattering

First quarter and last qtr I thought we were very good. 2nd and 3rd their midfield tore us a new one around the stoppages. We were -3 in contested at qtr time, -13 at half time, -23 at 3/4 time and finished -12 after going +9 in the last. -23 in 3 qtrs is a belting, im glad we ramped it up in the last.

When we are hungry and hard at the contest Im convinced no side can get anywhere near us, its the large parts of the season where we get beaten in contested possessions sometimes smashed that concerns me.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Lozza on July 29, 2018, 12:55:24 PM
Most damage occurred when Grigg was in the ruck, just non competitive which yesterday just allowed the pies to gain the ascendency hence the ebb and flow of the game. If statistically charted against when Grigg and Nanks were in the ruck i am sure it will show a definite pattern. Our back six had to repel an onslaught for periods which kept us in the game.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Owl on July 29, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
we just soak up their best shots, stay in touch, keep running em around for most of the game.  Look to set up the knock out for the fourth... keeps working...  I cannot believe how fit our team is.  We are fast, but Collingwood were fast too, they just died in the arse first.  Eagles are fast as well.  With two teams playing a similar style a lot of it becomes down to several factors, endurance (mental and physical), and pure arse ...chaos ball falling into your lap, poo umpiring decision going against you or and idiot magpie muai thai kneeing his team mate in face, (I would of paid double if I knew he was gonna do that)  ...
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: tdy on July 29, 2018, 06:51:58 PM
When is butler due back,?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: taztiger4 on July 29, 2018, 07:22:54 PM
When is butler due back,?

2-3 weeks he said yesterday
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on July 29, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
We either weren't at 100% or Collingwood are much better than we give them credit for. Thought they controlled large amounts of that game, and we just pinched goals against the run to hold the lead. Concerning.

We needed a really competitive hit out, and to snag the points was pretty important, especially with the Weagles losing today.

I also enjoyed the saltyness from Collingwood supporters. My favourite included attributing the loss the their outs stating that if we had similar outs to theirs we would be nowhere with a like for like comparison of:

Treloar = Cotch
De Goey = Dusty
Elliot = Edwards
Dunn = Rance
Howe = Grimes

I poo you not.  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: dwaino on July 29, 2018, 09:07:02 PM
Every week that teams stick with us until 3/4 time they claim they could have won. Except it happens every time and unless you can play us for four quarters then you've got little chance.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Owl on July 29, 2018, 09:52:23 PM
salty Collingwood tears go good in a Marguerita
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Tiger Tragic on July 30, 2018, 01:25:57 PM
We either weren't at 100% or Collingwood are much better than we give them credit for. Thought they controlled large amounts of that game, and we just pinched goals against the run to hold the lead. Concerning.

We needed a really competitive hit out, and to snag the points was pretty important, especially with the Weagles losing today.

I also enjoyed the saltyness from Collingwood supporters. My favourite included attributing the loss the their outs stating that if we had similar outs to theirs we would be nowhere with a like for like comparison of:

Treloar = Cotch
De Goey = Dusty
Elliot = Edwards
Dunn = Rance
Howe = Grimes

I poo you not.  :lol :lol :lol

Treloar / Cotch - close but Cotch has more class (but less leg speed).  Cotch also has 100 times more leadership that Treloar
De Goey / Dusty - LOL.  Probably Dusty of 4 or 5 years ago but not the Dusty that we saw last year (albeit he has dropped off this year)
Elliott / Edwards - close, good player is Elliott. But when he can open the play up like Edwards does from a handball nobody sees, come and see me.
Dunn / Rance - LMFAO, deserves no commentary
Howe / Grimes - Howe is better at sitting on heads and that's where it stops unfortunately.

My comparisons would be:

Treloar / Prestia
De Goey / Caddy
Elliott / Butler
Dunn / Astbury
Howe / Broad
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: cub on July 30, 2018, 01:47:47 PM
We either weren't at 100% or Collingwood are much better than we give them credit for. Thought they controlled large amounts of that game, and we just pinched goals against the run to hold the lead. Concerning.

We needed a really competitive hit out, and to snag the points was pretty important, especially with the Weagles losing today.

I also enjoyed the saltyness from Collingwood supporters. My favourite included attributing the loss the their outs stating that if we had similar outs to theirs we would be nowhere with a like for like comparison of:

Treloar = Cotch
De Goey = Dusty
Elliot = Edwards
Dunn = Rance
Howe = Grimes

I poo you not.  :lol :lol :lol

Treloar / Cotch - close but Cotch has more class (but less leg speed).  Cotch also has 100 times more leadership that Treloar
De Goey / Dusty - LOL.  Probably Dusty of 4 or 5 years ago but not the Dusty that we saw last year (albeit he has dropped off this year)
Elliott / Edwards - close, good player is Elliott. But when he can open the play up like Edwards does from a handball nobody sees, come and see me.
Dunn / Rance - LMFAO, deserves no commentary
Howe / Grimes - Howe is better at sitting on heads and that's where it stops unfortunately.

My comparisons would be:

Treloar / Prestia
De Goey / Caddy
Elliott / Butler
Dunn / Astbury
Howe / Broad

Geez Astbury and Braod a bit undersold there. Prestia is silk compared Treloar just keeps getting injured a clear run would see him all over this showboat.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Owl on July 30, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Just confirmed that Prestia has cracked rib/ribs....
Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 30, 2018, 10:12:29 PM
Yeah out for 1. Check out the burge injury interview on the RFC site

Title: Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the M.C.G., Round 19, 2018
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2018, 04:10:25 AM
Coaches votes (Hardwick & Buckley)

RICHMOND v COLLINGWOOD

10 Brodie Grundy (COLL)
7 Scott Pendlebury (COLL)
4 Shane Edwards (RICH)
4 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)
4 David Astbury (RICH)
1 Dion Prestia (RICH)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-30/aflca-votes-round-19-leading-trio-leap-clear-of-pack