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Title: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2018, 11:07:24 PM
Dimma said post-game that we're going to play as close to our best side as possible against the Dogs.

So fire away with your changes?

Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Conca out please

Baker and Lloyd will go out due to ins

And obviously Astbury for Garthwaite
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 17, 2018, 11:45:00 PM
Outs: Conca. Garthwaite. Lloyd (unlucky)

Ins: Cotchin. Prestia. Astbury.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2018, 03:12:37 AM
Next week, for their final round clash with the Western Bulldogs at the MCG, the League leaders hope to select a near full-strength side in their last hit-out before the finals.

Hardwick said his team would regain skipper Trent Cotchin (hamstring), fellow midfielder Dion Prestia (hamstring) and defender David Astbury (Achilles) for the Saturday afternoon clash, while Kane Lambert (ankle) and Dan Butler (ankle) are likely to be available for the club’s first final.

"Dion trained today and ran well, 'Cotch' trained today and ran well, and Dave the same, so those three will come back," he said.

"Lambert will probably miss another one, I'd say. 'Butts' is probably a couple of weeks away as well. They're on the mend."

Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-18/jack-doesnt-get-much-from-umps-dimma)
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on August 18, 2018, 06:57:20 AM
Out. Baker . Garthwaite and Lloyd
Ins   Cotchin . Astbury.Prestia

Then the following week bar injuries
The ins will be Lambert and Butler
The outs.   Who knows . Maybe McIntosh and Conca
You wouldn’t want to play an absolute stinker next week if you were these two
Does Butler come in  ? Missed a lot of footy and can’t play VFL
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: torch on August 18, 2018, 08:59:09 AM
Out. Baker . Garthwaite and Lloyd
Ins   Cotchin . Astbury.Prestia

Then the following week bar injuries
The ins will be Lambert and Butler
The outs.   Who knows . Maybe McIntosh and Conca
You wouldn’t want to play an absolute stinker next week if you were these two
Does Butler come in  ? Missed a lot of footy and can’t play VFL

x2

As much as i don’t think Grigg has done enough, he has been good the last 2 matches.

I would not play Bulter. It’s either drop Conca (which it seems like they will not based on that rotation in the midfield) or Higgins.

Looks like Townsend and Bulter will miss out from our Premiership side.

Obviously Short is a lock.

So IMO it’s Higgins or Conca that will play.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Owl on August 18, 2018, 09:07:00 AM
I think it will be horses for courses even through the finals cept for the untouchables if fit.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 18, 2018, 11:50:33 AM
Unfortunately the love for Conca might get him the gig this year regardless of his poor record in finals including last years vfl series or any previous afl final.  :banghead

Whilst other players absolutely dominate vfl games week in week out despite a heavy tag, be amongst the best throughout last years vfl finals series, have decent form in any afl game they’ve played to date including previous afl finals games but still be left on the outer because the coach doesn’t like them as much as others. It really sucks to be one of those players.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 18, 2018, 02:17:18 PM
Who absolutely dominates VFL week in week out? I can think of one guy. And while I agree he's copped a raw deal, it's not that hard to realise his style of play & his role is completely different to the likes of Conca and anyone else you want to poo can.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 18, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
Higgins would be incredibly unlucky to be squeezed out due to Conca.
I think he has shown more than enough to be at this level
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: georgies31 on August 18, 2018, 08:52:14 PM
Who absolutely dominates VFL week in week out? I can think of one guy. And while I agree he's copped a raw deal, it's not that hard to realise his style of play & his role is completely different to the likes of Conca and anyone else you want to poo can.

Can't agree more said it perfect.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: cub on August 18, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
I'll probably drink too much and just enjoy myself
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 18, 2018, 09:10:31 PM
Conca out  :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 18, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
Gath, Lloyd and Baker out unless we have an injury or two from the game.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2018, 10:14:29 PM
Conca out 


Agree.  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 18, 2018, 10:21:20 PM
Conca stays


Agree.  :shh


About time :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2018, 10:30:01 PM
Conca stays out for good


Agree.  :shh


About time :shh

 :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 18, 2018, 10:35:15 PM
Conca stays in for good


Agree.  :shh


About time :shh

 :shh

Stop agreeing with me...you drunk?
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2018, 11:02:40 PM
Conca stays out for good


Agree.  :shh


About time :shh

 :shh

For once I'm not drunk....

The first step is admitting you had a problem.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 19, 2018, 01:02:48 AM
 :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
INS: Cotchin, Prestia, Astbury, Townsend

OUTS: Lloyd, Baker, Garthwaite, Grigg (just too slow & we need speed) or Conca
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 19, 2018, 11:50:25 AM
INS: Cotchin, Prestia, Astbury, Townsend

OUTS: Lloyd, Baker, Garthwaite, Grigg (just too slow & we need speed) or Conca

You say Grigga is too slow and we need speed but then go on to replace him with another slow player.... He is absolutely no chance of being dropped and has honestly had a good year and earned his spot.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 19, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
Grigg is a very smart footballer. I actually think he's improved in the latter stages of his career.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2018, 03:11:37 PM
INS: Cotchin, Prestia, Astbury, Townsend

OUTS: Lloyd, Baker, Garthwaite, Grigg (just too slow & we need speed) or Conca

Might be an idea then to actually replace Grigg with a quick player....just sayin'.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 19, 2018, 03:26:20 PM
Towner can do no wrong apparently :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
Especially now he's gained that extra yard.....(https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/4083453662.gif)

 :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: georgies31 on August 19, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
Towner has had his chances and being dropped last 2 games says coaching group not happy with him.Yeah brings pressure and tackling,but were not seen him hit the scoreboard his other job.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: pmac21 on August 19, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
Based on what I saw of the dogs today we could afford to rest another 2-3 players and still win by 40+ points.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2018, 06:22:19 PM
INS: Cotchin, Prestia, Astbury, Townsend

OUTS: Lloyd, Baker, Garthwaite, Grigg (just too slow & we need speed) or Conca

Might be an idea then to actually replace Grigg with a quick player....just sayin'.... :shh

Put Townsend -v- Grigg in 100 metre sprint and i know who'd win

Also, Townsend's tackles stick, Grigg's do not

Towner, can do the 2nd ruck job and will actually make a contest at each contest. Grigg is no longer doing this. Have a look at the Bellchambers' goal in the last and you'll get the picture
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 19, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
While your first line may be true, it ain't out about the 100m sprint. It's about knowing where to go, getting to the right spots & getting the footy in your hands. Grigga still does this better than Towner ever has. Partially because Towner plays inside & Grigg does a bit of inside/outside work :shh

I have never seen Towner play 2nd ruck & I don't want to change the structure of the side with 1 game to go just to find out if you're correct :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: eliminator on August 19, 2018, 07:13:40 PM
Based on what I saw of the dogs today we could afford to rest another 2-3 players and still win by 40+ points.

I would not underestimate the Dogs. They have a good record against us and their midfield contains some very good players eg the Bont.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 19, 2018, 08:04:14 PM
Should play our best 22 in preparation for the finals. Need to find that final quarter domination like last year. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: big tone on August 19, 2018, 08:34:18 PM
This would be my side heading into the finals

Grimes  Rance  Astbury
Short  Vlastuin  Broad
McIntosh  Cotchin  Grigg
Edwards  Caddy  Lambert
George  Jack  Dusty

Nank  Graham  Prestia

Butler Higgins  Townsend Rioli

Em- Lloyd  Baker  Houli  Ellis 

(Obviously I’m not a fan of Ellis and Houli)



Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: The Machine on August 19, 2018, 08:47:08 PM
This would be my side heading into the finals

Grimes  Rance  Astbury
Short  Vlastuin  Broad
McIntosh  Cotchin  Grigg
Edwards  Caddy  Lambert
George  Jack  Dusty

Nank  Graham  Prestia

Butler Higgins  Townsend Rioli

Em- Lloyd  Baker  Houli  Ellis 

(Obviously I’m not a fan of Ellis and Houli)


Good team but we know Houli and Ellis will play. Therefore Townsend and Butler out...Butler will need a run in the VFL you would think. Our backs are our rock!
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Dont Argue on August 19, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
This would be my side heading into the finals

Grimes  Rance  Astbury
Short  Vlastuin  Broad
McIntosh  Cotchin  Grigg
Edwards  Caddy  Lambert
George  Jack  Dusty

Nank  Graham  Prestia

Butler Higgins  Townsend Rioli

Em- Lloyd  Baker  Houli  Ellis 

(Obviously I’m not a fan of Ellis and Houli)

You're not serious are you?
Houli almost won the Norm Smith and you're not a fan?
Thank god the closest you'll ever get to picking the team is on here.
Haters gotta hate

Houli is a proven finals player.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 19, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
This would be my side heading into the finals

Grimes  Rance  Astbury
Short  Vlastuin  Broad
McIntosh  Cotchin  Grigg
Edwards  Caddy  Lambert
George  Jack  Dusty

Nank  Graham  Prestia

Butler Higgins  Townsend Rioli

Em- Lloyd  Baker  Houli  Ellis 

(Obviously I’m not a fan of Ellis and Houli)


Good team but we know Houli and Ellis will play. Therefore Townsend and Butler out...Butler will need a run in the VFL you would think. Our backs are our rock!

Think will be the same 22 as last season other than short a defs in and with Townsend not considered this past week you would think he’s not in the selectors mind. Based on team selections this season the only other changes from last year would be Higgins and/or Conca with belles and kmac the only 2 premiership players whose positions look vulnerable.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: torch on August 19, 2018, 10:50:48 PM
INS: Cotchin, Prestia, Astbury, Townsend

OUTS: Lloyd, Baker, Garthwaite, Grigg (just too slow & we need speed) or Conca

Might be an idea then to actually replace Grigg with a quick player....just sayin'.... :shh

Put Townsend -v- Grigg in 100 metre sprint and i know who'd win

Also, Townsend's tackles stick, Grigg's do not

Towner, can do the 2nd ruck job and will actually make a contest at each contest. Grigg is no longer doing this. Have a look at the Bellchambers' goal in the last and you'll get the picture

AGREE!

But they will not drop Grigg as his Hardwick’s favourite!
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: georgies31 on August 20, 2018, 12:58:01 AM
Can't understand with the dropping of Grigg that's how we played all year why would we drop that formula now with him second ruck he has been playing well last month to.I only think another big man has to come in against sides with 2 dominant rucks like eagles etc.
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: lamington on August 20, 2018, 09:17:04 AM
Need to play best 22 to get Jack the Coleman!!!
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2018, 12:51:15 PM
Balme stressed no players were “rested” against the Bombers last week, and said the Tigers expected to have Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia and David Astbury back for their final home-and-away game. Cotchin missed his second game of the season with hamstring soreness, an issue that also kept Prestia out. Astbury is also scheduled to return after missing last week’s win because of achilles soreness.

Balme said Kane Lambert, who underwent minor ankle surgery, remained on target to miss two games and resume in the first week of the finals. Dan Butler (ankle surgery) is expected to be available soon after, but he has not played since round 16.

Richmond are unbeaten in 13 games at the MCG this year and have stretched their winning ­sequence at their home ground to 20. Their most recent loss at the MCG was against Sydney in round 13 last year. The Tigers’ average winning margin at the MCG this season is 31 points. They have lost their past four games to the Western Bulldogs, but they have not played them since a five-point loss in round seven last year at Etihad Stadium.

Premiership defender Nathan Broad yesterday accepted a $1500 sanction for engaging in misconduct against Essendon’s Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti in the second quarter last Friday night.

Source: The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-wont-change-game-plan-for-jack-riewoldts-coleman-challenge/news-story/c26defcf5e7ae4455f2c9f558077b480)
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2018, 06:52:38 PM
In the Mix - Round 23

Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
21 Aug 2018


RICHMOND

Get them in: Trent Cotchin and David Astbury will return after managing minor sore spots while Dion Prestia is rated a good chance. Anthony Miles, Connor Menadue and Corey Ellis remain on the cusp while Jacob Townsend and Tyson Stengle are also available.

Under the pump: With a bye on the weekend, there were no blistering performances in the VFL to see anyone dislodged so omissions will come down to who returns from injury. Ryan Garthwaite, Sam Lloyd and Liam Baker, through no fault of their own, will probably be the unlucky ones feeling the heat after coming in for the injured trio last week.

Medical room:
Jason Castagna was treated for a corked quad in the second quarter against the Bombers and will be sore this week but the Tigers have said he should be ok. Same goes for Dylan Grimes, who had his back worked on during the game. Kane Lambert should become available over the bye round while Dan Butler won't be far behind him, which will throw up a selection conundrum for the first week of finals.

Verdict: Garthwaite for Astbury, unless another defender needs a week to manage an injury, and Lloyd for Cotchin. Baker for Prestia, unless Jack Higgins could do with a break before finals, although the bye could suffice. Townsend or Stengle could be considered if Castagna doesn't come up.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-21/in-the-mix-round-23
Title: Re: Changes for the Dogs games?
Post by: one-eyed on August 23, 2018, 04:19:20 PM
Richmond rested a number of stars last week to avoid the disruption of consecutive weeks sitting at home. The reigning premiers will bring back captain Trent Cotchin and full back David Astbury to face the Western Bulldogs on Saturday. As much as they’d love to get some game-time into Dion Prestia’s legs they’ll opt on the side of caution and save him for the first week of finals, along with Kane Lambert. Dan Butler won’t be back till the second week or prelims if the Tigers get straight through.

The Bulldogs are at the other end of the stick with another year finishing early. They won’t fancy their chances of finishing on a high against Richmond and so will put star Marcus Bontempelli in cotton wool as he nurses a hip injury.

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/the-afl-rovers-early-word-on-teams-the-tough-call-each-club-needs-to-make-before-finals/qvgd818eqb4j1r1yww8hvm01t