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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 14, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
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Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
AFL.com.au
Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
Ahh the off season giggle fest continues
Grigg - now 30 and clearly in decline yet he is still in our top 5 mids.
Edwards - Made A/A as a mid /fwd where he didnt have to be great in either role.As a fwd hes average at best and as a mid he has one redeeming attribute and thats his hands inside.Go compare him against someone like Robbie Gray in the roles. noew theres a AA Elite mid/fwd.
Nankervis - Blind fred can see he gets killed in the ruck most weeks. Granted he Does give us a good contest around the ground but how many ruckmen are in front of him.
Brandon as soft as they come Ellis - unbelievable!!! the bar doesnt have to be high in rating midfields it seems.
Jack glass half full Graham - theres more to the game than just laying tackles getting your hands on the pill is just one thing.
Lambert - nothing special about him just a reall solid contributor.
Prestia - very good player when he actually plays and is fit.
Cotchin - fair enough has all the runs on the board.
Martin - see cotchin in fact he is our best mid by some margin.
McIntosh - Mr fumbles himself. woulld also be nice if he could find a bit of ball for himself.
Menadue - done nothing menadue and has to be in the gun.
RC-D, English, Ross, and Turner who the last time i looked looked more like a hbf. All first yr players with no guarantee they will play a game this yr or even make it.
Soldo - played 8 games and who knows if he will make it has to be touch and go atm.
CC-J - A 19yo zero games who like the first yr players mentioned is probably miles away.
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Good call, Claw. None of those blokes will ever play in a premiership.
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:shh
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Good call, Claw. None of those blokes will ever play in a premiership.
And Craig remains the best Lambert to play AFL footy, can’t imagine Kane ever being top 3 in our B&F, let alone doing in a finals year or heaven forbid a premiership year.
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Exactly. Well said HRT :shh
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I think Higgins will play a lot of midfield this year
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I think Higgins will play a lot of midfield this year
That's what Dimma said was being planned....
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Claw wants Graham to get more of the ball. Would think that would also be what Graham and Hardwick are working on
in 23 games Graham has 320 disposals at an average 13.9 with 146 tackles at an average of 6
Ablett Jnr in his first 23 games had 264 disposals at 11.47 and 77 tackles at 3.34
Cousins had 329 at 14 and 24 tackles
Judd had 357 at 15.5 and 65 tackles at 2.8
Far too early to be making any call on Graham other than keep working hard son. Same for any of the first or second year players.
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Claw wants Graham to get more of the ball. Would think that would also be what Graham and Hardwick are working on
in 23 games Graham has 320 disposals at an average 13.9 with 146 tackles at an average of 6
Ablett Jnr in his first 23 games had 264 disposals at 11.47 and 77 tackles at 3.34
Cousins had 329 at 14 and 24 tackles
Judd had 357 at 15.5 and 65 tackles at 2.8
Far too early to be making any call on Graham other than keep working hard son. Same for any of the first or second year players.
Did any of those kick 3 goals in a GF in those first 23 games?
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Claw wants Graham to get more of the ball. Would think that would also be what Graham and Hardwick are working on
in 23 games Graham has 320 disposals at an average 13.9 with 146 tackles at an average of 6
Ablett Jnr in his first 23 games had 264 disposals at 11.47 and 77 tackles at 3.34
Cousins had 329 at 14 and 24 tackles
Judd had 357 at 15.5 and 65 tackles at 2.8
Far too early to be making any call on Graham other than keep working hard son. Same for any of the first or second year players.
Did any of those kick 3 goals in a GF in those first 23 games?
Lol!
That's check mate. :thumbsup
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Good call, Claw. None of those blokes will ever play in a premiership.
lmfao. So all premiership players are complete players and guns ahh wonderfully naieve.
:shh
the usual contribution to any debate, nothing.
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Good call, Claw. None of those blokes will ever play in a premiership.
And Craig remains the best Lambert to play AFL footy, can’t imagine Kane ever being top 3 in our B&F, let alone doing in a finals year or heaven forbid a premiership year.
So he is something more than a real solid contributor. What a gun iyo sheesh.
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I think Higgins will play a lot of midfield this year
I dont believe Higgins was mentioned in the article obviously they dont rate him.
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Claw wants Graham to get more of the ball. Would think that would also be what Graham and Hardwick are working on
in 23 games Graham has 320 disposals at an average 13.9 with 146 tackles at an average of 6
Ablett Jnr in his first 23 games had 264 disposals at 11.47 and 77 tackles at 3.34
Cousins had 329 at 14 and 24 tackles
Judd had 357 at 15.5 and 65 tackles at 2.8
Far too early to be making any call on Graham other than keep working hard son. Same for any of the first or second year players.
You want to hope Hardwick is working on it. 18yo OR 28yo in anyone's book 13.9 disposals a game is not good enough for a midfielder.
Ablett junior and Cousins played as fwds when they first played how many goals did they kick in their first couple of seasons.
Brandon Ellis averaged 15.7 and 18.5 in his first two seasons and he also played in a premiership and hes a dud.
Who making a call a blind man can see he need sto find more ball but hey lets not state the bleeding obvious because supporters might get cut up aboutit lol.
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Claw wants Graham to get more of the ball. Would think that would also be what Graham and Hardwick are working on
in 23 games Graham has 320 disposals at an average 13.9 with 146 tackles at an average of 6
Ablett Jnr in his first 23 games had 264 disposals at 11.47 and 77 tackles at 3.34
Cousins had 329 at 14 and 24 tackles
Judd had 357 at 15.5 and 65 tackles at 2.8
Far too early to be making any call on Graham other than keep working hard son. Same for any of the first or second year players.
Did any of those kick 3 goals in a GF in those first 23 games?
Ted Hopkins kicked 5 goals in a g/f in his 28th game and he went on to become a gun not.
All three of Ablett Cousins and Judd went on to become champion players they have the runs on the board Graham does not. But hey we camn live in hopeand ignore what hes not doing so well atm.
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That kid Graham will never stand up to the pressure of a big game.
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Embrace the horror lads... Back to bottom four this year.
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Good call, Claw. None of those blokes will ever play in a premiership.
And Craig remains the best Lambert to play AFL footy, can’t imagine Kane ever being top 3 in our B&F, let alone doing in a finals year or heaven forbid a premiership year.
So he is something more than a real solid contributor. What a gun iyo sheesh.
I’m using real stats, not the ones I see with my eyes.
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
AFL.com.au
Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
Ahh the off season giggle fest continues
Grigg - now 30 and clearly in decline yet he is still in our top 5 mids.
Edwards - Made A/A as a mid /fwd where he didnt have to be great in either role.As a fwd hes average at best and as a mid he has one redeeming attribute and thats his hands inside.Go compare him against someone like Robbie Gray in the roles. noew theres a AA Elite mid/fwd.
Nankervis - Blind fred can see he gets killed in the ruck most weeks. Granted he Does give us a good contest around the ground but how many ruckmen are in front of him.
Brandon as soft as they come Ellis - unbelievable!!! the bar doesnt have to be high in rating midfields it seems.
Jack glass half full Graham - theres more to the game than just laying tackles getting your hands on the pill is just one thing.
Lambert - nothing special about him just a reall solid contributor.
Prestia - very good player when he actually plays and is fit.
Cotchin - fair enough has all the runs on the board.
Martin - see cotchin in fact he is our best mid by some margin.
McIntosh - Mr fumbles himself. woulld also be nice if he could find a bit of ball for himself.
Menadue - done nothing menadue and has to be in the gun.
RC-D, English, Ross, and Turner who the last time i looked looked more like a hbf. All first yr players with no guarantee they will play a game this yr or even make it.
Soldo - played 8 games and who knows if he will make it has to be touch and go atm.
CC-J - A 19yo zero games who like the first yr players mentioned is probably miles away.
Nothing special about Lambert?
I think, like Edwards, you’re being good with your hand
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
AFL.com.au
Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
Ahh the off season giggle fest continues
Grigg - now 30 and clearly in decline yet he is still in our top 5 mids.
Edwards - Made A/A as a mid /fwd where he didnt have to be great in either role.As a fwd hes average at best and as a mid he has one redeeming attribute and thats his hands inside.Go compare him against someone like Robbie Gray in the roles. noew theres a AA Elite mid/fwd.
Nankervis - Blind fred can see he gets killed in the ruck most weeks. Granted he Does give us a good contest around the ground but how many ruckmen are in front of him.
Brandon as soft as they come Ellis - unbelievable!!! the bar doesnt have to be high in rating midfields it seems.
Jack glass half full Graham - theres more to the game than just laying tackles getting your hands on the pill is just one thing.
Lambert - nothing special about him just a reall solid contributor.
Prestia - very good player when he actually plays and is fit.
Cotchin - fair enough has all the runs on the board.
Martin - see cotchin in fact he is our best mid by some margin.
McIntosh - Mr fumbles himself. woulld also be nice if he could find a bit of ball for himself.
Menadue - done nothing menadue and has to be in the gun.
RC-D, English, Ross, and Turner who the last time i looked looked more like a hbf. All first yr players with no guarantee they will play a game this yr or even make it.
Soldo - played 8 games and who knows if he will make it has to be touch and go atm.
CC-J - A 19yo zero games who like the first yr players mentioned is probably miles away.
Nothing special about Lambert?
I think, like Edwards, you’re being good with your hand
You tell us all what he does that makes him such a special player. He is a solid player nothing more nothing less.
Edwards is just about the most frustrating player i have ever laid eyes on. How about we compare his body of work with Robbie Gray both mid fwds and they are so far apart it aint funny.
You want to chatter about a truly elite mid/fwd then perhaps we need to poach Robbie from the cesspit that is P/A.
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Edwards clearly a spud because he's not on Robbie Gray's level.
Used to hate it when we terrible in the 2000's. Seeing spuds like Mark Coughlan run around, he wasn't as good as Mark Riccuito yet he won a B&F!!!! Joel Bowden winning B&F's and AA's....not as good as James Hird, should have been delisted
harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
YA YA TIGERS YA YA TIGERS
HARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
stuff me dead this bloke makes you want to kill yourself
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
AFL.com.au
Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
Ahh the off season giggle fest continues
Grigg - now 30 and clearly in decline yet he is still in our top 5 mids.
Edwards - Made A/A as a mid /fwd where he didnt have to be great in either role.As a fwd hes average at best and as a mid he has one redeeming attribute and thats his hands inside.Go compare him against someone like Robbie Gray in the roles. noew theres a AA Elite mid/fwd.
Nankervis - Blind fred can see he gets killed in the ruck most weeks. Granted he Does give us a good contest around the ground but how many ruckmen are in front of him.
Brandon as soft as they come Ellis - unbelievable!!! the bar doesnt have to be high in rating midfields it seems.
Jack glass half full Graham - theres more to the game than just laying tackles getting your hands on the pill is just one thing.
Lambert - nothing special about him just a reall solid contributor.
Prestia - very good player when he actually plays and is fit.
Cotchin - fair enough has all the runs on the board.
Martin - see cotchin in fact he is our best mid by some margin.
McIntosh - Mr fumbles himself. woulld also be nice if he could find a bit of ball for himself.
Menadue - done nothing menadue and has to be in the gun.
RC-D, English, Ross, and Turner who the last time i looked looked more like a hbf. All first yr players with no guarantee they will play a game this yr or even make it.
Soldo - played 8 games and who knows if he will make it has to be touch and go atm.
CC-J - A 19yo zero games who like the first yr players mentioned is probably miles away.
Nothing special about Lambert?
I think, like Edwards, you’re being good with your hand
You tell us all what he does that makes him such a special player. He is a solid player nothing more nothing less.
Edwards is just about the most frustrating player i have ever laid eyes on. How about we compare his body of work with Robbie Gray both mid fwds and they are so far apart it aint funny.
You want to chatter about a truly elite mid/fwd then perhaps we need to poach Robbie from the cesspit that is P/A.
What Lambert does better than most is run, accumulate and link up. He creates play and also kicks goals. 2nd and 3rd in B&Fs in an all star team tells me our coaches know something about football.
Re Edwards. Creates, creates, creates. AA. and most importantly worthy of almost taking out Norm Smith in the G.F. Never seen Gray do that. Let me know when he does.
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Edwards clearly a spud because he's not on Robbie Gray's level.
Did i call him a dud? clearly not. Just another supporter all cut up because a favorite player is not rated high enough for them.
LMFAO at people thinking Edwards is better than Gray thats some set of blinkers they have on.
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lol @ you thinking Edwards is one of my favourites. I've ridden him harder than most but do so objectively....eg not comparing him to one of the very best players in the comp as if that's the standard.
Edwards will never play in a premiership though, you are correct there :shh
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YA! YA!
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Who has the best onballers? We rank every club
AFL.com.au
Nat Edwards, Travis King, Michael Whiting, Riley Beveridge and Mitch Cleary
14 Jan 2019
IT'S NO great surprise to that Collingwood boasts the best midfield in the League.
With Brodie Grundy's handy work, tapping it down the throats of Steele Sidebottom, Scott Pendlebury, Adam Treloar and in 2019, Dayne Beams, the Magpies' engine room is going to be fueled up and ready to go.
1. Collingwood
2. RICHMOND
Narrowly pipped as the AFL's best midfield, Richmond still boasts one of the most talented on-ball groups in the land. Dustin Martin remains one of the competition's most influential players, with his ability to also go forward just as crucial as his work out of the centre. Shane Edwards made the All Australian team last year, while Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia are proven ball winners out of the middle. But why aren't they number one? Perhaps it's down to the loss of key depth players during the most recent NAB AFL Trade Period. A lot could rely on youngsters like Jack Graham, Connor Menadue and perhaps even Riley Collier-Dawkins should injury strike in 2019.
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Brandon Ellis, Kane Lambert, Jack Graham
Midfield depth: Kamdyn McIntosh, Connor Menadue, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Luke English, Jack Ross, Fraser Turner
Ruck depth: Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones
3. GWS
4. Melbourne
5. West Coast
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Brisbane
12. Port Adelaide
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn (8th with Mitchell)
16. St Kilda
17. Carlton
18. Gold Coast
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-12/who-has-the-best-onballers-we-rank-every-club
Ahh the off season giggle fest continues
Grigg - now 30 and clearly in decline yet he is still in our top 5 mids.
Edwards - Made A/A as a mid /fwd where he didnt have to be great in either role.As a fwd hes average at best and as a mid he has one redeeming attribute and thats his hands inside.Go compare him against someone like Robbie Gray in the roles. noew theres a AA Elite mid/fwd.
Nankervis - Blind fred can see he gets killed in the ruck most weeks. Granted he Does give us a good contest around the ground but how many ruckmen are in front of him.
Brandon as soft as they come Ellis - unbelievable!!! the bar doesnt have to be high in rating midfields it seems.
Jack glass half full Graham - theres more to the game than just laying tackles getting your hands on the pill is just one thing.
Lambert - nothing special about him just a reall solid contributor.
Prestia - very good player when he actually plays and is fit.
Cotchin - fair enough has all the runs on the board.
Martin - see cotchin in fact he is our best mid by some margin.
McIntosh - Mr fumbles himself. woulld also be nice if he could find a bit of ball for himself.
Menadue - done nothing menadue and has to be in the gun.
RC-D, English, Ross, and Turner who the last time i looked looked more like a hbf. All first yr players with no guarantee they will play a game this yr or even make it.
Soldo - played 8 games and who knows if he will make it has to be touch and go atm.
CC-J - A 19yo zero games who like the first yr players mentioned is probably miles away.
I really are at a loss as to you continued posts denigrating most of our players. Sure most are not A Graders but that is a product of the Salery Cap, the Draft and trade rules. All teams have this mix and not only is it universal but unaviodable. The results over the last few years show that we have one of the best lists if not then the best list. It's a team game and is not won by individual stats especially since most of us are not aware of the jobs given to each player each week. If they do their jobs we win and we have done lots of that in the last few years.
Why can't you just accept we have a good list, sure it's not perfect but continued denigration does nothing but make you look lkke some sort of troll. It's our team our player, how about supporting them ?