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Title: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: one-eyed on February 15, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
What are your expectations for KMac this year and what would be a good season for him to keep his spot in our best 22?


Career stats to date:
          Games  Kicks   Hballs  Disp.  Marks  Tackles  G.B    Clear.  In50   Re50   CP    UP   1%ers
2015      23     10.5     4.8     15.3    4.1      2.6       8.8     1.1     2.5     2.0     4.4  10.5    1.4
2016        6     12.2     5.8     18.0    5.0      2.3       0.1     1.0     2.0     4.0
2017      24       9.6     5.3     14.9    3.5      3.2       2.5     0.4     2.7     1.9
2018      21       9.4     4.5     13.9    3.1      2.0       9.3     0.8     3.0     1.8

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2508
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-richmond-tigers--kamdyn-mcintosh

Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: one-eyed on February 15, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
In his own words ....

The 24-year-old turned heads in last year’s qualifying win over Hawthorn with an electric three-goal performance. 

His 2018 season featured a total of nine goals, his best to date, sparking motivation to better it again this year.

“Kicking a few snags last year was pretty cool,” McIntosh said.

“It’s always nice to get that adrenaline pumping…. I’d like to kick a few more goals this year if I can.”

After reaching new heights this pre-season, it appears he is already on his way.

“I’m going into my seventh year now and to think I’m still hitting personal bests is just a credit to the fitness staff and the physio group we have here,” he said.

“At the moment, out on the track, I’m moving well and ready to start things off for the season.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-02-14/fit-and-firing-tiger-cubs-impress-mcintosh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: the claw on February 15, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
statistically horrible for a big mid.Throw in just 2 contested marks all yr and the constant fumbles and the last two seasons he has become a liability.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: lamington on February 15, 2019, 05:12:34 PM
He's an important link up. You wish he could break a few more lines because he's got some pretty good pace for a big man. I feel he is important when opponents go for the down the line kicks because his size helps us at least nullify the contest so we can get repeat entries.

Definitely a weakness of his game is when he has ball in hand. If he can be that little bit more damaging or at the very least get a few more metres gained per possession he would be an absolute asset
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: skiddymcghee on February 15, 2019, 05:30:42 PM
I'd be making sure that he gets his currency up this year and then parcel him up with a pick to Fremantle for Cerra in 2020!
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on February 15, 2019, 05:32:42 PM
I’ll say the same thing I said on this same thread before last season. He is in the bottom 3 players of the 22, improvement from those beneath him and the new boys drafted should see him lose his spot unless he can improve his own performances.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Slipper on February 15, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: MintOnLamb on February 15, 2019, 10:18:25 PM
He is an athlete first, footballer 2nd, personally I think hi
s skills are below par but when in full flight on the wing and cuts back inside, not many can stop him, if he could deliver from there....
IMHO In our best 18....just
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 16, 2019, 03:23:14 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 16, 2019, 03:43:08 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Slipper on February 16, 2019, 04:21:13 PM
It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

Yep. Could certainly be more damaging with the ball. Will be interesting to see if he gets better disposal going I50 with a second genuine tall target who can mark.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 16, 2019, 09:45:32 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

I honesty don’t know why you feel the need to chip in with your condescending opinions on others.
Do you think being a doctor and a coterie (or whatever you are) gives you some special power to judge others?
Mine is an opinion, like yours. If you and others don’t agree then fine - it’s a forum.
What I posted was far more about Slippers post, I just chose to contrast the quality of it to the others which in my opinion are far less insightful and overlook the other dimensions to KMac’s footy that aren’t stat related.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 17, 2019, 12:35:07 AM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

I honesty don’t know why you feel the need to chip in with your condescending opinions on others.
Do you think being a doctor and a coterie (or whatever you are) gives you some special power to judge others?
Mine is an opinion, like yours. If you and others don’t agree then fine - it’s a forum.
What I posted was far more about Slippers post, I just chose to contrast the quality of it to the others which in my opinion are far less insightful and overlook the other dimensions to KMac’s footy that aren’t stat related.
LMAO. You are the one who was condescending in the first place calling their posts superficial. Now you are getting personal too.

Why don't you pull your head in and not be rude? If you think that posts are superficial, just ignore them. Why even describe them that way? Just praise the good posts but don't denigrate others. See how you retaliated with a little criticism of yours?
If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Actually don't dish it out at all and we'd all be happy.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: skiddymcghee on February 17, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
Please move on - nothing to see here :scream
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 17, 2019, 07:24:23 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

I honesty don’t know why you feel the need to chip in with your condescending opinions on others.
Do you think being a doctor and a coterie (or whatever you are) gives you some special power to judge others?
Mine is an opinion, like yours. If you and others don’t agree then fine - it’s a forum.
What I posted was far more about Slippers post, I just chose to contrast the quality of it to the others which in my opinion are far less insightful and overlook the other dimensions to KMac’s footy that aren’t stat related.
LMAO. You are the one who was condescending in the first place calling their posts superficial. Now you are getting personal too.

Why don't you pull your head in and not be rude? If you think that posts are superficial, just ignore them. Why even describe them that way? Just praise the good posts but don't denigrate others. See how you retaliated with a little criticism of yours?
If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Actually don't dish it out at all and we'd all be happy.

If we all ignored posts because we didn’t like them, we’d barely have a forum. How am I denigrating anyone? I called the posts superficial, not the person. And they are superficial posts - particularly Claws.
 That’s not denigrating any person which makes you wrong.
Read it again.
Think.



Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 17, 2019, 07:44:08 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

I honesty don’t know why you feel the need to chip in with your condescending opinions on others.
Do you think being a doctor and a coterie (or whatever you are) gives you some special power to judge others?
Mine is an opinion, like yours. If you and others don’t agree then fine - it’s a forum.
What I posted was far more about Slippers post, I just chose to contrast the quality of it to the others which in my opinion are far less insightful and overlook the other dimensions to KMac’s footy that aren’t stat related.
LMAO. You are the one who was condescending in the first place calling their posts superficial. Now you are getting personal too.

Why don't you pull your head in and not be rude? If you think that posts are superficial, just ignore them. Why even describe them that way? Just praise the good posts but don't denigrate others. See how you retaliated with a little criticism of yours?
If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Actually don't dish it out at all and we'd all be happy.

If we all ignored posts because we didn’t like them, we’d barely have a forum. How am I denigrating anyone? I called the posts superficial, not the person. And they are superficial posts - particularly Claws.
 That’s not denigrating any person which makes you wrong.
Read it again.
Think.
Calling people's posts superficial is pretty condescending. If you don't realise that, then you have no hope of recognising the effects your posts have on others.
Yet you call me condescending without citing a single example showing this. Well I'm sorry, but accusations without good evidence is a pretty pathetic form of behaviour.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 17, 2019, 10:06:24 PM
I’m not getting into a circular debate with someone who has a track record of not shifting ground on a topic but I’ll say this:-
1) definition of superficial is “existing or occurring on the surface”. That’s exactly what those first couple of posts were - on the surface that might be a good summary of kmac. The subsequent post that I and you ironically agreed with picked a little beneath that surface and suggested he played a less obvious but valuable role which I agree.  It’s neither condescending or denigrating anyone - it’s describes the post I’d disagreed with in one word.
2) I think you make a point of chipping into forums like a moderator because you appear to think you’re better than others because you know the moderators. I don’t like that behaviour. If you don’t like it, take your own advice and move on - you too don’t have to respond

Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 18, 2019, 07:02:36 AM
"Chipping into forums like a moderator".
"You appear to think you are better than others".

Your so called opinion is both incorrect and obnoxious. Again, you continue to make accusations without any evidence.

I post here like everybody else. I don't "chip in like a moderator". Sometimes I share information that I have gathered from the club. Yes, I do have contacts at the club. I actually thought people might appreciate that. This is a forum about our footy team and people continue to discuss things that they've heard. That's the whole bloody point of being here!!!! I don't post these things because I want to feel superior in anyways whatsoever.  The fact that you feel that I do says a lot more about your insecurities than it says about me. Just think about that for a moment.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: the claw on February 18, 2019, 05:21:33 PM
I get the knock on this fella, but I think his value to Dimma's game plan should not be underestimated.

He has good pace and a massive tank. I think a big part of his role is to fill space defensively when we don't have the ball (his low tackle numbers suggest this anyway). This helps infer pressure on the ball carrier so that those guys attacking the ball carrier have a better chance of creating the turnover, either at the contest or when the ball carrier disposes of the ball.

I understand that Broad's role/value to the team is similar.

I am not suggesting for a minute that our newer players can't do this, but McIntosh has a few preseasons on them.

This post is spot on, the rest are superficial posts
I wouldn't call them superficial. They are just opinions. Just because you may not agree with them doesn't make them superficial. And that isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

As an aside, I agree with Slipper on his role in the team. He obviously carries out the orders given to him by the coaches and thus he continues to be selected. That is the number one criteria for selection - the ability to perform the role you have been instructed to perform. It would be, however, nice to see him improve his disposal efficiency, as he is a good kick and that will elevate him to be a far better player for us.

I honesty don’t know why you feel the need to chip in with your condescending opinions on others.
Do you think being a doctor and a coterie (or whatever you are) gives you some special power to judge others?
Mine is an opinion, like yours. If you and others don’t agree then fine - it’s a forum.
What I posted was far more about Slippers post, I just chose to contrast the quality of it to the others which in my opinion are far less insightful and overlook the other dimensions to KMac’s footy that aren’t stat related.
LMAO. You are the one who was condescending in the first place calling their posts superficial. Now you are getting personal too.

Why don't you pull your head in and not be rude? If you think that posts are superficial, just ignore them. Why even describe them that way? Just praise the good posts but don't denigrate others. See how you retaliated with a little criticism of yours?
If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Actually don't dish it out at all and we'd all be happy.

If we all ignored posts because we didn’t like them, we’d barely have a forum. How am I denigrating anyone? I called the posts superficial, not the person. And they are superficial posts - particularly Claws.
 That’s not denigrating any person which makes you wrong.
Read it again.
Think.
Speaking the truth about players and their short comings sure brings the CLAWS out. hhhhaaaarrrrgggggghhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on February 19, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
The Flog Off is complete
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: the claw on February 19, 2019, 11:02:42 AM
The Flog Off is complete
It wasnt quite but it is now ;)
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on February 19, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
:shh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Andyy on February 20, 2019, 08:56:07 PM
This guy needs to smash more people.

If I was that big and athletic, running around in the Y&B, every opponent would have a target on their back...
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Slipper on February 20, 2019, 09:26:56 PM
The Flog Off is complete
It wasnt quite but it is now ;)

:lol
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Diocletian on February 20, 2019, 09:53:26 PM
This guy needs to smash more people.

If I was that big and athletic, running around in the Y&B, every opponent would have a target on their back...

Looks like Tarzan..... :shh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Diocletian on March 21, 2019, 11:34:34 PM
Best game for ages....stronger in the contest s and decision making and disposal by hand at least was the best I've eer seen from him....not as many hurried hospital handballs to nowhere.... :shh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Damo on March 21, 2019, 11:36:32 PM
Was good
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Slipper on March 21, 2019, 11:38:14 PM
Best game for ages....stronger in the contest s and decision making and disposal by hand at least was the best I've eer seen from him....not as many hurried hospital handballs to nowhere.... :shh

Looked confident I reckon, which is not something I think we have seen in him in the past.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 22, 2019, 01:07:22 PM
Terrific game.

Wonder if knowing their are blokes breathing down his neck for his spot is havong an impact?
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: lamington on March 22, 2019, 03:48:37 PM
How good was his banana kick pass!!!!
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: the claw on March 22, 2019, 07:19:05 PM
thought he was just okay and i certainly thought he still fumbled a bit. We dont have a lot of tall big mids so i suppose in that regard he is safe.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 21, 2019, 07:56:41 AM
There was good and bad last night, I must say I enjoy his doggedness and athleticism.
You cannot question his determination.
I gave him a pass last night.
Will he play against the D's?
I hope so.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: big tone on April 21, 2019, 09:43:51 AM
There was good and bad last night, I must say I enjoy his doggedness and athleticism.
You cannot question his determination.
I gave him a pass last night.
Will he play against the D's?
I hope so.
Can i ask if you were at the game? (Not being smart)

I haven’t finished watching the replay but watching it live last night he was very very good.
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2019, 09:47:49 AM
 Reckon he's having a very good year.

Would be in the top 5 of our B&F, been very consistent
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 21, 2019, 11:55:38 AM
His effort against Aliir and one other Swan was simply breathtaking. Absolute beast this boy at times.

Shows you can have a huge impact on games without getting 20+ touches.

Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 21, 2019, 01:14:59 PM
There was good and bad last night, I must say I enjoy his doggedness and athleticism.
You cannot question his determination.
I gave him a pass last night.
Will he play against the D's?
I hope so.
Can i ask if you were at the game? (Not being smart)

I haven’t finished watching the replay but watching it live last night he was very very good.
No wasn't there, so only see what happens on the ball
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Diocletian on April 21, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
Save a shocking couple of minutes v Port has been mighty this season... :shh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 12, 2019, 09:23:57 PM
This guy is up there in our b&f. Very underrated year if you ask me, but he is having a great year IMO
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 12, 2019, 10:11:28 PM
This guy is up there in our b&f. Very underrated year if you ask me, but he is having a great year IMO

 :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2019, 12:04:12 AM
(https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/c0dcc8e6-5837-4ae4-9680-cf88f1d177b5.png)
https://twitter.com/NCreely/status/1127521096490569728
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 13, 2019, 10:48:12 AM
yes he is Nick. How was the push against the freo player to take that mark on the 50th. Top shelf :thumbsup

Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 13, 2019, 11:01:49 AM
Refining his game to the point he is going to lose the "Hackingtosh" nickname....  :clapping
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 13, 2019, 01:24:20 PM
Literally never heard anyone call him that
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Diocletian on May 13, 2019, 01:57:11 PM
 :santa :shh

Good return to form after two below par games.... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Kamdyn McIntosh - 2019 expectations?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 13, 2019, 05:16:38 PM
Literally never heard anyone call him that

Me neither.