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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 06, 2019, 08:14:12 PM
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WATCH HERE: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-06/watch-dusty-in-hot-water-for-offtheball-hit
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RICHMOND superstar Dustin Martin could be in hot water with the Match Review Officer after an off-the-ball incident against Greater Western Sydney on Saturday.
With the Tigers preparing to kick the ball in after a behind, Martin appeared to collect a GWS player with high shot to the head.
It was spotted by the umpires with a free kick awarded to Brent Daniels in front of goal.
Martin has had a quiet start to the year by his standards and was locked in a running battle with tagger Matt de Boer during Saturday's clash.
The close attention from De Boer and his fellow Giants appeared to unsettle Martin, who gave a middle-finger gesture to an unknown GWS player during a heated verbal exchange in the second quarter.
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Ricky Nixon alleging that Dusty has been caught on film doing “something”
Check his twitter out, not much info but saying similar to what happened to him.
Who knows how much credibility it has
One things for sure, something isn’t right with him!!
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Nixon is notorious for trolling Richmond on twitter.... :shh
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Ricky Nixon alleging that Dusty has been caught on film doing “something”
Check his twitter out, not much info but saying similar to what happened to him.
Who knows how much credibility it has
One things for sure, something isn’t right with him!!
someone has to go back and look at the tape. is he talking about when he looked to give a sign of snorting something and then the bird to someone? Mumford it is and wgaf its true isnt it the druggo
i remember seeing something like that in the first half and thinking stuffin play the ball dusty whats wrong with you lad
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Nixon would wanna be a careful speaking malicious gossip if untrue.
Let's face it he has history lying.
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2 weeks min
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Dimma has had a go at the umps for not protecting Dusty as a ball-carrier.
The bird was given to Mumford who had been taunting Dusty.
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Hardwick pleads for protection as Dusty faces scrutiny
AFL.com.au
Adam Curley
Apr 6, 2019 8:47PM
DUSTIN Martin could be in hot water with the Match Review Officer after an off-the-ball incident against Greater Western Sydney on Saturday, but Richmond coach Damien Hardwick wants more protection for his superstar.
With the Tigers preparing to kick the ball in after a behind in the second term, Martin appeared to collect a GWS player with a high shot to the head.
It was spotted by the umpires with a free kick awarded to Brent Daniels in front of goal.
Martin has had a quiet start to the year by his standards and was locked in a running battle with tagger Matt de Boer during Saturday's clash.
The close attention from De Boer and his fellow Giants appeared to unsettle Martin, who gave a middle-finger gesture to an unknown GWS player during a heated verbal exchange in the second quarter.
Martin finished the game with just 15 disposals and six tackles as the Tigers went down by 49 points.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was just as agitated as his superstar onballer after the match and questioned his treatment by de Boer off the ball.
"Why do you reckon he might give away that free kick?" he said.
"At the end of the day people come to watch the No.4 play, let the bloke play the game and protect the ball carrier is what I'm saying.
"Don't get me wrong de Boer did a terrific job but geez, hmmm.
"I'm certainly frustrated and I'll be interested to see what the umpiring fraternity says about it."
Despite Hardwick's grievances, he said he won't be following it up with a phone call to the umpiring department this week.
"I don't bother mate, I don't bother," he said.
He did however make his feelings known to the whistle blowers during the match, when he left the coaches box to remonstrate with the emergency umpire over Martin's treatment.
"I was just asking (what is) their responsibility to the ball player," he said.
"I didn't get a response."
There was conjecture that Martin's angry gesturing was in response to taunting from GWS ruckman Shane Mumford.
Mumford said he didn't see Martin's response, but confirmed he had been sledging the champion Tiger.
"I've got no idea. No idea. I was abusing him from the other side of the field, I know that," Mumford said.
"Obviously there was (something) but I didn't see it so didn't have any effect."
GWS coach Leon Cameron defended de Boer, saying post-match he didn't see anything too out of the ordinary in terms of the Giant's physicality off the ball.
"I thought Matty did a terrific job, it was a good duel from ground level," he said.
"Until I have look at the behind the goals (vision I can't really comment), but I thought Matty played a good, fair game.
"He's a ball player, he just plays really tight.
"I thought we played the game in the right manner, we played it hard and tough, they played hard and tough, and we came out on top.
"I know you guys are going to speculate on it, but sometimes you lower your colours, and I thought Matty did an exceptional job."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-06/watch-dusty-in-hot-water-for-offtheball-hit
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And yet Mason Cox got off for something similar
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I thought he miust've spotted Ricky "I hate Richmond almost as much as I love drugs and jailbait" Nixon in the crowd when he made those gestures..... :shh
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If Dimma was serious he would make an offical complaint, not just speculate in the media.
pee weak otherwise.
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A couple of weeks enforced holiday could be good for Dusty.
Would allow him to go visit dad across the ditch.
As I said could be good.
:cheers
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What gets me is if a defender gave the same treatment to their immediate opponent inside 50 it would be a free kick every time. Why is it not a free kick else where on the ground. This is where we almost have zoned free kicks, okay to infringe on one part of the ground but can't do it somewhere else.
Having said this there have been some very good midfielders in the past who received similar attention and still influenced games. Dusty has been able to break tags before but has obviously lost his mojo at the minute so like others are saying maybe an enforced holiday is what he needs.
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Why Dusty should be 'disappointed' with coach
By Tim Elbra
WWOS.Nine.com.au
7 April 2019
Dustin Martin should be "disappointed" in Richmond coach Damien Hardwick's "poor" reaction to the tagging he copped from GWS's Matt de Boer, says AFL great Nathan Brown.
Martin cut a frustrated figure as he was heavily marked by de Boer in a blowout win for the Giants on Saturday, with his contribution limited to just 15 disposals. The Brownlow Medallist gave away a free kick at one stage for an elbow on an opponent, about 100m off the ball.
"Why do you reckon he might give away that free kick? At the end of the day, blokes come to watch the No.4 play," Hardwick said.
"Let the bloke play the game," he added. "Protect the ball-carrier, is what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong, De Boer did a terrific job, but geez. I'm certainly frustrated, I'd be interested to see what the umpiring fraternity says about it."
Brown said on The Sunday Footy Show that if he was Martin, he'd be unimpressed about his coach calling for him to be protected.
"A poor excuse, I would have thought. I'd be disappointed if I was Dustin Martin watching my coach defend my like that," Brown said.
"Because he needs to work through that. He's a wonderful player, Dustin Martin. Take him to the goal square, do something. He shouldn't be given any special treatment. Damien Hardwick is way off the mark on that one."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/dustin-martin-damien-hardwick-comments-nathan-brown-criticises-reaction/1d6cc0da-be2f-4ffb-8b89-a67d5e9d3ff2
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agree with all his 'passengers' bar Mcintosh. Only watched the 1st half but thought he was quite reasonable...?
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Tom Browne's "estimate" is Dusty will cop a week for the elbow and a $5000 fine for the snort/finger sledge.
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Robbo's view:
DISLIKES
1. DUSTIN MARTIN
Forget the finger and the snort gestures because players torment each other in every game. The real talking points are Damien Hardwick’s plea with umpires to protect the ball players, and Martin’s errant elbow. Hardwick has a point. If the AFL is serious about clamping down on prohibited contact (cue Port’s Scott Lycett last week), then the ball winners should be paid 15 free kicks a game for the treatment they get off the ball. The checks, the elbows in the back, and the scragging all take place.
That said, Martin can’t be elbowing players off the ball. The Tigers are reeling with injuries, and Martin now faces suspension. Despite Hardwick’s defence of Martin’s elbow — “Why do you reckon he might give away that free kick?” he asked in the post-match — the coach should also be frustrated by Martin’s lack of discipline and leadership in a time of turmoil. Hardwick’s whinge should be noted, but so, too, should GWS coach Leon Cameron’s remark. “I thought Matty de Boer played a really good, fair game,’’ he said.
2. WHAT HAPPENS TO DUSTY?
The finger always attracts a fine, but that’s mostly when it’s directed at the fans. At another player is a rarity. It’s touch and go there. As for the snort gesture, surely that won’t be punished. If it was directed at Shane Mumford then remember Mumford got two weeks suspension and a $25,000 fine for snorting what is now known as a ‘’white substance’’.
This won’t be an integrity department issue and it won’t be an MRO decision, it will be one for Steve Hocking in the football department. Could you imagine if the AFL wants Martin to apologise?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-for-round-3/news-story/528e1732f6f9ff97d8731c52b6c7745b
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Why Dustin Martin deserves to be banned
Damien Barrett
afl.com.au
8 April 2019
DUSTIN Martin has been a trailblazer of so much good in the past five seasons.
But this week he presents as an AFL test case for the bad.
Two incidents from the Tigers' loss to GWS at Spotless Stadium on Saturday are moments he'd like to take back, and now need proper AFL-system scrutiny and sanction. Not lip service.
The AFL tells us it loathes behind-play hits. But too often it tolerates them – remember Ben Cunnington's punch in round one?
Martin's was worse. Grainy footage of a Martin forearm making contact with a Giants player at least 80 metres off the ball should result in a minimum two-game penalty. And please, Michael Christian, don't hide behind a medical report.
The flipping of the middle finger at Shane Mumford and words clearly referencing that player's video-recorded drug use are another matter. In the eyes of some, merely a fiery moment within a competitive game. Regardless, this too requires an official and public AFL stance.
Too often, the AFL lets such matters slide, particularly when the players don't want to lay a complaint, and Mumford isn't personally seeking admonishment.
When St Kilda's Jake Carlisle and Carlton's Marc Murphy traded ugly, personal words they later regretted in a May 2017 match, the AFL weakly turned away. It should have acted then under its respect and responsibility policies, as it now needs to against Martin.
Dozens of thousands of kids idolise Martin and his every move. Those kids need to know from the AFL that it is not an action that should be seen on any football field.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-07/barrett-why-dustin-martin-deserves-to-be-banned
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Damien Barrett... meh
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The umpiring department love all this poo, it draws attention away from all the garbage decisions and non decisions they make on the day
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The umpiring department love all this poo, it draws attention away from all the garbage decisions and non decisions they make on the day
Absolutely....
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Doesn't the match review dude put in his penalty day after the game. How come it's now Monday and no decision on suspension for the elbow?
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Doesn't the match review dude put in his penalty day after the game. How come it's now Monday and no decision on suspension for the elbow?
Usually put out late Monday afternoon unless it was a Thursday / Friday game.
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Dusty has been given 2 weeks with an early plea for that elbow.
He also has copped a $1500 fine.
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What a load of crap. We better be challenging that.
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Of course every other player looked at get's a fine or financial sanction.
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Challenge based simply on the Mitchell case.
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt isn't sure whether teammate Dustin Martin will be sanctioned by the AFL for his gesture to a GWS player on Saturday but there is precedent for him to escape penalty.
Martin flipped "the bird", delivered a foul-mouthed spray and accompanied that with a snorting motion during the loss to the Giants.
He was caught on camera, with the AFL investigating whether it should take action.
Hawthorn champion Sam Mitchell was involved in a similar sledging controversy in mid-2015 when he mimicked injecting himself as he had a crack at Essendon players over the drugs scandal.
He was not sanctioned by the AFL and Riewoldt says Martin's case is similar.
"I know the AFL are reviewing it at the moment," Riewoldt said. "But similar circumstances, or as similar as you could find, would be Sam Mitchell sledged a couple of the Essendon boys about the drugs saga maybe three or four years ago and he got off.
"I'm not sure, it's still under review from the AFL and Steve Hocking so no doubt we'll find out about that and talk about it tonight."
Triple Brisbane premiership player Jonathan Brown said Martin should be given a warning rather than a fine.
"The gesture wasn't great," Brown said on Nova100's Chrissie, Sam and Browny.
"This is the biggest problem – players get caught on video and sometimes on the audio saying stuff or doing stuff out on the field but it is part of the game.
"I would just send a warning out saying 'hey, we're not going to put up with this.' Just a little warning to Dusty, 'hey none of that, just cut it out boys'. A bit of common sense. People would be happy with that, wouldn't they?
"Do we really think they find Dusty $2000 that's really going to have an affect?"
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-monday-8-april-2019/live-coverage/6664a3f0a09d70672c30ed244da57a7e
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‘Suck it up’: Champion’s message for Tigers star
April 8, 2019
FOX SPORTS
Richmond star Dustin Martin needs to “suck it up” and learn to cope with being tagged, says St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt.
GWS tagger Matt de Boer kept Martin goalless and to just 15 disposals in the Giants’ win over Richmond, with the Tigers midfielder involved in a number of incidents during the contest as his frustrations became evident.
Coach Damien Hardwick spoke out in defence of Martin after the match, suggesting the umpires need to better protect players being tagged.
But Riewoldt believed de Boer played within the rules and Martin needed to deal with the added attention.
“No, I don’t think so,” Riewoldt said when asked if de Boer overstepped the mark.
“We’ve all been there as players who would’ve been tagged every week as key forwards, so the mids can probably suck it up a little bit and understand what it’s like to get tagged every week.
“De Boer didn’t, I think, overstep the mark in terms of unnecessary niggle, punches behind play, hits in the back — I didn’t think there was anything over the top.”
The Tigers star is having his worst season since signing a mega-contract at the end of 2017, with Martin averaging just 21.3 disposals in three games.
In 2017, Martin averaged 29.8 disposals, 3.5 tackles and 1.5 goals per game. But the midfielder was unable to produce those numbers last season as Richmond made it all the way to the Preliminary Final.
His numbers dropped to 25.4 disposals, 2.2 tackles and 1.4 goals per game in 2018.
“The off-the-ball spray — he’s unlucky in that situation that the camera was just on him because that sort of stuff happens,” he told SEN.
“People might say ‘we don’t want to see that in our game’, well you might be right but it happens a lot out on the field.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-dustin-martin-needs-to-suck-it-up-when-taggers-come-to-him-says-nick-riewoldt/news-story/17f1d58d0d9d4cad9415f2c1e0a0e87b
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Dusty hit with two week ban
afl.com.au
8 April 2019
RICHMOND'S raft of injury problems have been compounded further at the Match Review, with superstar Dustin Martin copping a two-match suspension for his off-the-ball strike on Greater Western Sydney's Adam Kennedy.
In a dirty afternoon for a frustrated Martin, he caught Kennedy with an elbow to the back of his head in an incident that occurred around 100m from the ball.
It was graded by Match Review Officer Michael Christian as intentional conduct, with medium impact to the head, which will see him banned for two matches and miss the club's games against Port Adelaide and Sydney.
Christian said the question of impact was the sticking point in extending the length of Martin's ban to two matches.
"Taking into account the visual look of the incident, the player reaction, the medical report and the potential to cause a more serious injury … we decided the appropriate grading was medium in this case," Christian told AFL.com.au's The Verdict.
Making matters worse for Martin, he was also handed a $1500 fine for striking Matt de Boer, having caught the GWS tagger with an elbow to the midriff.
He could also face further scrutiny from the AFL for a pair of untoward gestures to Giants players later in the game.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-08/dusty-hit-with-ban-star-pie-in-the-clear-for-late-bump
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Challenge based simply on the Mitchell case.
The article on the AFL website says the MRO haven't yet made their decision about Dusty's bird/snort gesture. So Dusty could still cop even more punishment.
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2 weeks with an early plea what a load of crap! What did the grade the force for it to be that? Agree should be challenged within a second.
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2 weeks with an early plea what a load of crap! What did the grade the force for it to be that? Agree should be challenged within a second.
It was graded ... as intentional conduct, with medium impact to the head ...
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-08/dusty-hit-with-ban-star-pie-in-the-clear-for-late-bump
Being off the ball would've come into account too.
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Medium impact hahahahahaha
They came to that conclusions based on their severely pixelated video footage and the opposition player continuing without a care in the world did they?
In other news, Taylor Adams late bump, head high contact, player went to ground, no charge.....
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i couldnt imagine a gws club with leon cameron and our former captain giving a not so glowing medical report
i call bs christian u c.............head. tiger should challenge
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New rule comes out....
"It potentially could have caused more damage."
Well every hit seen this year that got off could have potentially caused more damage.....
What the heck is going on?
I think that they should challenge and get it down to a week which is what it deserved....
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Taking into account the visual look of the incident, the player reaction, the medical report and the potential to cause a more serious injury … we decided the appropriate grading was medium in this case," Christian told AFL.com.au
Is this guy for real? Visual look....potential to cause more serious injury....when have these ever been taken into account before? I’ve never studied a single day of law and even I could get that charge downgraded if that’s how it’s been decided.
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:lol
what a season this is turning out to be.
challenge it. i don't know why we cop this BS from the AFL year after year. we may as well savage the pricks, not like we've got anything to lose now.
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The MRP make up the rules as they go along, one minute the penalty is heavily based upon the severity of injury caused to the player, now it seems its the extent of injury that could have resulted. Funny how the interpretation changes always seem to affect us. If they are going to base a decision on the visual look of an incident then the whole system is doomed to fail. The better you conceal your attack on an opponent the less likely you are to get suspended even though its still caught on camera and the result is the same.
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Dusty plays better as a matyr not a hero. 2017, he was a villain to comp with his Dad, chopsticks etc. Since then he's been loved by the outside too much for mine.
Get that negative outside stuff back and a bit more mongrel, little less flair and we might have old Dusty back with a vengence in 2 weeks.
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Be Boer probably didn’t do too much wrong other than give away a free kick every time he put his arms around Dusty to stop him running where he wanted to.
If the umpires pay a few early that incident doesn’t happen.
If the AFL want to take that look out of the game, protect the guy going the footy first and foremost.
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‘I’d lash him’: AFL greats’ fiery bake for Martin over ‘cheap shot’ ban
April 8, 2019 9:14pm
Anna Harrington
FOX SPORTS
Brisbane legend Jonathan Brown and Melbourne great Garry Lyon have slammed Dustin Martin for getting suspended when Richmond needed him most.
Martin was served a two-game suspension for a high elbow on GWS’ Adam Kennedy behind the play.
A frustrated Martin was struggling with a tag from Matt de Boer when he lashed out at Kennedy in the second term of the Tigers’ loss.
The Tigers were without Alex Rance and Jack Riewoldt heading into the game, while skipper Trent Cotchin injured his hamstring in the third term. Now they will be without their big four for at least the next two weeks, for the first time since Martin’s debut in 2010.
“A bloke who is on $1.4m, he’s an experienced footballer, he’s just seen his captain go down, he’s seen Rance go down, he’s seen Riewoldt go down and then that is his response — to a team who are vulnerable, who are without their best players and leaders because he got a bit frustrated — he let himself do that?” Lyon said on Fox Footy’s On the Couch.
“I mean, I don’t sit him down, I’d lash him.
“With the greatest respect, we’ve sat here with Dustin Martin, and absolutely lauded him as one of the great footballers of the modern era, that was irresponsible to the max.
“You might not want to be a leader, Dusty, and he may not feel comfortable doing it but you’ve got your four big guns out and at very worst, you can’t do that, on that occasion.”
Martin struggled with a tag against Collingwood, then again against the Giants — with de Boer limiting him to 15 touches, while Martin also gave away three free kicks.
Brown said Martin needed to learn how to “conquer” a tag.
“For me the biggest problem (is) he’s distracted at the moment,” Brown said on Fox Footy’s On the Couch.
“No, I’m not going to worry about the offield stuff — there’s been a lot of talk in the last 24 hours (about) his mental state or where’s his hunger at — I’m not going to worry about that.
“All we can judge him on is what;’ s going on, on the field and the last fortnight, especially, he’s been tagged by Levi Greenwood, this week Matt de Boer.
“He is not coping with the tag, full-stop. now he wants to go down as an all-time great — which he is not an all-time great yet — he needs to be able to conquer this tag.
“If I’m an opposition coach coming in now, I’m saying ‘go out there and annoy Dustin’ because he’s distracted and for whatever reason he’s distracted, who cares, he’s distracted — he’s not coping with that at all.
“So he needs to be able to conquer that and get over it and as Garry said, no greater time than now.
“The side needed him and needed him to be responsible.”
Brown said the hit on Kennedy was a “cheap shot” that thoroughly deserved its suspension.
“It was a pretty solid hit behind the ball. It wasn’t on de Boer, he was just running away and the bloke (Kennedy) was standing in front of him, so he just elbowed him — he lost the plot,” Brown said.
“That’s just a blatant elbow to the head.
“It’s a cheap shot, it’s a cheap shot by Dusty — he should be disappointed with that and I think that deserves two weeks.”
Lyon perhaps summed up the situation best:
“Bottom line is, they’ve got a fit Dustin Martin sitting on the sideline for two weeks, in a time when in the last two years they can least afford it,” he said.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jonathan-brown-and-garry-lyon-slam-dustin-martin-for-getting-suspended-for-a-cheap-shot/news-story/bbb85656c67bad8ccf3f60c8972772a1
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Martin pushed over the edge: manager
Mark Robinson,
Herald Sun
9 April 2019
Dustin Martin’s brain-fade elbow was uncharacteristic and brought on by extra attention he has been receiving from opponents, according to his manager Ralph Carr.
Carr echoed Richmond coach Damien Hardwick’s belief Martin was provoked against GWS on Saturday.
Martin was suspended for two matches for his high elbow hit on Giant Adam Kennedy.
A week earlier, Martin’s teammate Dylan Grimes was suspended for a week for a similar incident, and arguably with the same potential to cause injury to Collingwood’s Jamie Elliott, but only received a one-game suspension.
Any penalties for his one-finger salute and snorting gesture against GWS are still to be determined by the AFL.
Carr told the Herald Sun Martin was “pushed and shoved’’ constantly.
“It was uncharacteristic from him, he’s never done it in his career,’’ Carr said.
“It’s very un-Dustin Martin like, I have never seen him argue with an umpire or retaliate before.
“He’s getting far more attention these days — have you seen the extra attention, it’s unbelievable.
“The footage shows they pushed and shoved him all day and whatever else they did.’’
Carr stressed Martin, who was tagged out of both the Round 2 (Collingwood) and Round 3 (GWS) matches, was in great shape.
“I don’t think I’ve seen him a better place,” he said.
“All he talks about is winning another flag for Richmond.”
To those who had questioned Martin’s desire, Carr said: “Think about all those times over the years they’ve written off a champion. You can’t write off a champion.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/manager-ralph-carr-explains-why-dustin-martin-lost-his-composure-against-gws/news-story/bd886600c3f3a18ec1d3a3c57da3f880
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Tigers set to challenge Martin ban, while 'please explain' issued
Daniel Cherny, Jake Niall
The Age
9 April 2019
Richmond are set to contest Dustin Martin's two-match sanction for striking at the tribunal on Tuesday night, while Martin has until the close of business on Tuesday to answer a "please explain" issued in relation to gestures made by the superstar in Saturday's loss to Greater Western Sydney.
The Tigers are staring at the prospect of being without their "fab four" of Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Alex Rance and Trent Cotchin, the last of whom is set to miss two to three matches with a hamstring injury, for the first time in a decade when they confront Port Adelaide this week.
Match review officer Michael Christian graded Martin's off-the-ball elbow to the head of Giant Adam Kennedy as an intentional high strike with medium impact.
The Tigers are poised to argue that the impact of the hit was low, rather than medium.
A reduction in the grading of the impact from medium to low would reduce Martin's suspension from two games to one.
Asked on Monday about the decision to grade the impact as medium, Christian said: "Three things that are considered with respect to impact. Player reaction, medical report, and also the visual look of the strike. And in combination with the potential to cause more serious injury it was thought that the most appropriate grading was medium."
While Christian reiterated that he was unable to go into specifics about the Giants' medical report for confidentiality reasons, Kennedy played out Saturday's game and is understood to have pulled up well.
Late on Monday afternoon the AFL's football operations department issued Martin a "please explain" in relation to the raised middle finger, snorting gesture and seemingly obscene comments he directed towards a Giants opponent during the game.
Should Martin be unable to provide an adequate explanation, it's expected he would be fined, as typically happens in these sorts of situations.
Had Martin merely raised his middle digit the matter would have been one for the MRO, but the snorting gesture led the AFL to direct the issue to its broader football operations and integrity teams.
Christian, meanwhile, offered Martin a $1500 fixed sanction for striking Giant Matt de Boer in a separate incident during GWS' win over Richmond on Saturday at Giants Stadium.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-expecting-richmond-to-challenge-two-match-ban-for-dustin-martin-20190408-p51c4e.html
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Richmond to appeal Dustin Martin ban to reduce sentence
Jake Niall
The Age
9 April 2019
Richmond will appeal Dustin Martin's two-match ban at the AFL tribunal on Tuesday night.
The Tigers are set to challenge the level of impact after Martin was found to have used medium force in striking Giant Adam Kennedy high during Saturday afternoon's match at Giants Stadium.
It is expected that the challenge will only seek to reduce the ban from two games to one, because Martin can only realistically challenge level of impact.
The match review officer, Michael Christian, had found that Martin struck Kennedy intentionally and high, classifications that are difficult to overturn.
The Tigers decided to challenge in a meeting on Tuesday morning but the AFL was expecting a tribunal case involving Martin, who is also facing a potential fine over gestures and language directed at GWS' Shane Mumford during the same game.
Martin has been issued with a please explain.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-to-appeal-dustin-martin-ban-to-reduce-sentence-20190409-p51c9i.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
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"He'll bounce back": Grigg trusts Martin to regain top form
Grigg knows Martin is struggling with the tag, but expects him to go and work on his game behind closed doors for the next two weeks.
“He is frustrated,” Grigg told The Oval Office.
“It’s not something new that he’s faced, he’s obviously a superstar and he’s been tagged for a couple of years and obviously played well.
“He’s just like a normal player, he wants to play better.
“Dustin had a bit of a down day on Saturday, so did our whole team.
“He works hard, he’ll work on his game in the next couple of weeks now that he’s out and he’ll bounce back.”
Carlton defender Dale Thomas also has faith in Martin to rebound from a bout of poor form, but believes his teammates need to help him out in doing so.
“The teammates have the greatest responsibility obviously,” Thomas said.
“If the umpires aren’t going to jump in and intervene if there’s untoward behaviour going on… I think as a teammate you have some sort of duty to try and help him out.
“In Dustin’s case, it’s probably give him the ball and let him do what he does best.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/08/hell-bounce-back-grigg-trusts-martin-to-regain-top-form/
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People are saying it was Matt De Boer that he hit?
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Adam Kennedy?
Was there footage of that? I have only seen the Matt De Boer one?
Kennedy was the "elbow to the head" & 2 weeks
De Boer was a fine for a love tap
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Adam Kennedy?
Was there footage of that? I have only seen the Matt De Boer one?
Kennedy was the "elbow to the head" & 2 weeks
De Boer was a fine for a love tap
Thought so!
Some reports got it wrong with the player and looking at the footage it was Kennedy!
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Must say our players been weak of late no support or protection for Dusty at all.
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Thst's a sure sign of everyone worrying too much about themselves and their own game.... :shh
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Tribunal coverage is here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-09/live-from-430pm-aest-dustin-martin-at-the-tribunal
Martin will be represented by father-son duo Michael Tovey QC and Sam Tovey, while Jeff Gleeson will act as the AFL's legal counsel.
The Tribunal will be made up of David Jones (chairman), David Neitz, Shane Wakelin and Paul Williams.
We're expecting Martin to attempt to have the impact grading of his charge reduced from medium to low, which will see his ban downgraded from two matches to one game.
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The Tribunal hearing is underway, with Martin accompanied by Richmond footy boss Neil Balme.
As predicted, Martin will be attempting to argue that the impact grading should be low and not medium. That means he will be attempting to reduce his ban from two matches to one game.
Greater Western Sydney's medical report says Kennedy required no treatment, with no ongoing treatment required.
Umpire Nathan Williamson, who made the report during the game, is on the phone.
Williamson, who believes he was 25-30m from Martin, says he saw the Richmond player raise his arm and hit Kennedy with his arm.
Williamson says he believes the strike was forceful enough to constitute a report, labelling the level of the force as 'medium'.
Kennedy told Williamson that he was fine and told the umpire that he didn't believe the strike was malicious.
Adam Kennedy is now being called to provide evidence.
There was much conjecture over whether Kennedy should be allowed to be called. The AFL's legal counsel, Jeff Gleeson QC, argued he shouldn't on the grounds that the impact grading was raised from low to medium due to the potential to cause serious injury. Gleeson argued Kennedy could not provide evidence on that, but was overruled.
Kennedy says he tried to get in Martin's way to be "a nuisance". He says the initial contact came to the middle of his shoulder.
Kennedy says he didn't feel any pain as a result of the strike.
Kennedy says he wasn't expecting contact to his head and was in "a bit of shock" as a result of the strike. He says "it was a good knock".
In summary, Gleeson tells the Tribunal strong consideration must be given to the potential to cause injury.
Gleeson is pointing to the clauses in the AFL's guidelines that say strikes such as these will "not usually" be graded low impact, due to their potential to cause serious injury.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-09/live-from-430pm-aest-dustin-martin-at-the-tribunal
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Tovey describes Martin's actions as a "get out of my way" motion.
Ch 7 saying the tribunal are deliberating. A decision in about 20 mins.
Dusty didn't give evidence. He sat at the back of the room.
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Adam Kennedy says he saw Martin coming and braced for impact.
"I sort of just moved backwards a little bit. Just to get in his path a little bit – something we’re told to help our teammates … I stepped back in his path to be a little bit of a nuisance," he says.
"Yep (I ended up in his path).
"Yep (I saw him coming towards me).
"Yep (I was expecting impact).
"Yep (there was impact)."
He confirmed that the initial impact was on his shoulder, “pretty much right in the middle of the shoulder … just like that shoulder muscle, right in the middle of that”.
“The part that’s vertical … yeah”.
"Yes (I was looking at him). Yeah pretty much when I stepped back, I knew I was getting in his way, so I was expecting contact so I was ready to be bumped."
He said "everyone was getting worked up" and that he "told everyone to chill out a little bit" and played out the game, and despite the blow glancing upwards to "the side of my head … ear level", he had no pain or further issues.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-tuesday-april-9-2019/live-coverage/711ae50496a6bb19a9253518e1bf8416
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We’re into closing statements.
The AFL’s counsel, Jeff Gleeson, says the tribunal guidelines determine that the panel must give strong consideration to the potential to cause serious injury, as is required with high strikes with “swinging clenched fists, raised forearm or elbow”.
He says they’re normally characterized as medium, and that the panel must consider what about this one is different.
“The answer … is nothing,” he said.
“On any view, it was at a location on the shoulder that could – and we know did – result in a blow to the head.
“Does that take it out of the usual case? In my submission, it doesn’t.
“This was a strike that was landed by a player who was running, who raised his arm and who threw his elbow. It wasn’t a static position … a brace. He threw his elbow. It’s not static. And when you’re running … and you throw an elbow at or close to the head, you are squarely in the ‘usual’ scenario. That is, you have the potential to cause serious injury.
“There was the potential for concussion. There was potential for damage to the jaw. There was potential for damage to the temple. There was potential for damage to the cheekbone.”
He also argues that despite Kennedy's assertion, he was stepping into Martin's path but was trying to impede the run – maybe not expecting a bump and definitely not an elbow.
The AFL says there are two parts of Kennedy's evidence that were telling – that he said "he went to elbow me and it slipped up", suggesting Martin went in with the elbow.
He was also asked whether the force was enough to knock him sideways.
"Yeah," Kennedy said.
"It was a good knock."
Ben Broad
They're now citing the example of an intentional, low impact, high hit – Mitch Robinson on Seb Ross.
It doesn't look like we'll be hearing from Dusty…
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-tuesday-april-9-2019/live-coverage/711ae50496a6bb19a9253518e1bf8416
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Richmond is giving its closing statement.
"It is a horizontal lifting of the forearm, not siding with the elbow which immediately alerts you to the possibility to serious injury occurring," Tovey says.
"This was a thrusting, prodding motion with the forearm. It was a ‘get out of my way’ motion."
The Tigers also say impact was anticipated and that Kennedy "deliberately got in Martin's way".
"It wasn't a direct hit," he says.
"This was not a case of players hurtling towards each other at speed," he says.
"There's very little velocity. It wasn’t as if Martin was running at Kennedy. He was basically trotting past and appears that he was about to head off the field."
He has also referenced Kennedy's comment that there had been no malice.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-tuesday-april-9-2019/live-coverage/711ae50496a6bb19a9253518e1bf8416
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Down to one......:clapping
Edit: Updated thread title. OE.
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Down to one......:clapping
stuff yeah. Stick that up your arse Christian you incompetent piece of poo
Edit: Updated thread title. OE.
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Jury deliberated for 15 mins.
Dustin Martin successful in having the level of impact downgraded to low. His ban has been reduced to one match.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-09/live-from-430pm-aest-dustin-martin-at-the-tribunal
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Looking forward to Go Cats Wankley & Slobbo sooking it up now...... :shh
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nice. go stuff urself christian u collingwood flog
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At last common sense prevails. You just cannot upgrade impact based on the potential to be a worse hit.
Absolute disgrace by the lynch mob who Christian obviously was heavily influenced by.
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Looking forward to Go Cats Wankley & Slobbo sooking it up now...... :shh
Actually, that Bald knob Slobbo actually defended Dusty. Wankey will definitely sook and will probably try and get the rules changed again.
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Did these guys seriously have a medical report that said he received no treatment during or after the game and made no complaints of any pain and still grade it as medium impact???
Just hoping we wouldn’t appeal so they wouldn’t have to divulge that information. Honestly would save a lot of time and money if they just used common sense to begin with.
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Hats off to Kennedy. Good to see blokes still looking out for each other
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Did these guys seriously have a medical report that said he received no treatment during or after the game and made no complaints of any pain and still grade it as medium impact???
Just hoping we wouldn’t appeal so they wouldn’t have to divulge that information. Honestly would save a lot of time and money if they just used common sense to begin with.
Interestingly they (Christian /MRO) clearly lied when they first announced the suspension as they said that it was medium impact after taking account of the medical report.......... :gobdrop
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Drain the swamp
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Hats off to Kennedy. Good to see blokes still looking out for each other
Finally we agree on something. :shh
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FWIW and it seems to get lost a fair bit
One S Hocking signs off all MRO reports
#JustSayin
#NufSaid
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Hats off to Kennedy. Good to see blokes still looking out for each other
Agreed think it had more to do with the former played running things uo there
Well played regardless
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Martin lucky to have ban overturned say Cornes, Blight
By SEN
10 April 2019
Richmond star Dustin Martin was extremely lucky to have his ban downgraded, according to Kane Cornes and Malcolm Blight.
Martin was cited for striking GWS’ Adam Kennedy off the ball in Round 3 last Saturday and as a result was handed a two-week suspension by Match Review Officer (MRO) Michael Christian.
On Tuesday night, the sanction was cut in half to one week by the AFL Tribunal after the Tigers appealed but that decision does not sit well with Cornes.
“It’s one of the dirtier things I’ve seen on a football field,” Cornes said on SEN SA Breakfast.
“If that is only worthy of a one-week suspension? I’m not happy with that.
“I think there needs to be some room for feel in the game and I think Michael Christian got that one spot one.”
Cornes referenced Martin’s teammate Dylan Grimes who received a one-week suspension for his forearm to the head of Collingwood’s Jamie Elliott in Round 2.
“I was disappointed that (Martin) got downgraded from two to one because it wasn’t the same as what Grimes did to Elliott, which was in play, it was high,” he added.
“This was behind the ball, 100 metres off the ball and had the ability to cause significant injury.
“So for that to be only one week is disappointing.”
Blight was also critical of the Tribunal’s decision to reduce the penalty.
“I think he’s a very lucky boy,” he said on SEN’s Whateley.
“Elbows have no part in our game whatsoever and I think that the tribunal got it wrong.
“It should have kept the two weeks.”
Regarding Martin's reaction to Matt de Boer's tagging job, Blight feels it is a part of the Brownlow Medallist's game he must improve so he doesn’t lash out again.
“I didn’t think there was too much untoward (from de Boer),” he added.
“In fact, Dusty threw another elbow at one stage and probably should have got a week for that.
“If that’s what you are going to start doing, that means they’ve got you, so he’s got to learn another approach.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/04/10/martin-lucky-to-have-ban-overturned-says-cornes-blight/
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AFL Twitter saying Dusty received a "Big Fine" for his gesture
He's been fined $7.5k with $5k suspended until 2020, so he has to pay $2.5k ::)
Not sure a $2.5k fine for a bloke on over a million a year is a "Big Fine"
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stuffing joke he got fined at all.... :shh
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Kane Cornes :lol
I see dirtier acts in an Auskick game.
If there was actually any chance of injury there Kennedy wouldn't have protected him. Was just an elbow with enough force to get Kennedy out of the way. Not much in it
Let's move on.
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Nankervis issued a rallying cry for his teammates to get around Brownlow Medallist Martin who has publicly apologised for his meltdown against Greater Western Sydney.
Martin had a two-game suspension for striking Giants’ opponent Adam Kennedy downgraded to one-match at the AFL tribunal on Tuesday night which means he will miss Saturday’s clash against Port Adelaide.
He was also fined $2500 by the AFL for directing abusive gestures towards GWS opponents, including raising his middle finger and simulating a drug-snorting gesture. A further $5000 suspended fine has been put in place by the AFL until the end of 2020, should Martin slip up again.
Martin posted on Twitter after the fine was handed down.
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Nankervis said the midfield group also had a role to play in helping Martin through heavy tags in future.
“He probably has copped it for a few years, Dusty,” Nankervis said.
“He’s such a good player that most sides look to him. But it’s probably about us. We probably could have done more to help him as well. But we’ll move on from it and learn from it, both Dusty and us as a team.
“I think us as a whole midfield group haven’t been playing our best footy either. It’s not just Dusty, it’s us. But hopefully we can improve that.”
Nankervis said Martin had fronted up for training on Tuesday and performed well, seemingly unaffected by the scrutiny on him.
“He’s really unselfish in the way he goes about it,” Nankervis said.
“He hasn’t made it about him at all which is his character. It’s a credit to him.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/no-captain-obvious-for-tigers-as-richmond-ruckman-toby-nankervis-issues-rallying-cry-for-dustin-martin/news-story/0abc41945a176c0b7f802886be02760e
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‘What a joke’: Dusty’s response slammed
News.com.au
11 April 2019
Dustin Martin has been slammed for his “wishy-washy” apology after the Richmond star used social media to say sorry for a sledge towards GWS ruckman Shane Mumford during the Tigers’ loss on the weekend.
Co-host of Fox Footy’s AFL 360 and chief football writer for the Herald Sun Mark Robinson lashed Martin for his lack of sincerity while acknowledging he was wrong for making references to Mumford’s drugs controversy.
Last year a video of Mumford snorting a white powder emerged and he was suspended for two weeks and fined $25,000 as he prepared to return to the AFL with the Giants in 2019.
A frustrated Martin flipped him the bird and made a snorting gesture with his finger and nose during the match in Sydney on Saturday, appearing to say: “Have another line you loser.”
Martin tweeted out an apology for his behaviour on Wednesday — the first tweet he’s sent since August 2018.
But Robinson wasn’t buying the remorse, blasting the 2017 Brownlow Medallist for taking so long to issue what he claimed was a “joke” of a response.
“How wishy-washy is that? What a joke. The whole thing’s been a joke,” Robinson said on AFL 360. “Twitter, I don’t know, how many people on Twitter in Australia follow footy? What a joke. What a joke.
“And he only did it because he was told. If he was going to apologise he would have apologised an hour after the game.
“If you’re going to apologise, Dusty, apologise after the game. Not some wishy-washy tweet on a Wednesday. What a joke.”
Robinson’s co-host Gerard Whateley was also sceptical of how genuine Martin’s apology was, adding: “He took to Twitter with, I’m not sure if I’d call that an apology or not, but whatever was required he obviously did.”
The AFL asked Martin for a “please explain” over the incident and he was fined $7500 — $5000 of which is suspended until 2020.
Robinson also took aim at the severity of the Richmond midfielder’s punishment, unable to comprehend such a heavy financial hit in comparison to Mumford’s $25,000 penalty for actually being filmed snorting the substance.
“Just a little bit out of whack, you think? Just a fraction out of whack?” Robinson said of Martin’s punishment in relation to Mumford’s. “One’s pretending, the other one’s real and gets two weeks and $25,000 and this one gets $7500. That is out of whack, Gerard. That is completely and utterly out of whack.”
Australian basketball legend and Richmond fan Shane Heal didn’t have a problem with Martin sticking his middle finger up at Mumford but understood it wasn’t a good look.
“I saw he gave the bird but it would be a bit hypocritcial of me to be criticial of that,” Heal told the At Odds program as he recounted an instance from his playing days where he did the same thing to opposition fans.
“That’s alright, obviously it’s not in the best interests of the AFL and his own brand as well.”
The sanctions for his gesture come after Martin was suspended for a week for his off-the-ball elbow that clanged into GWS star Adam Kennedy’s head. The outburst from the normally unflappable Martin came during a game in which he was checked closely by relentless GWS tagger Matt de Boer, having also been targeted the week before by Collingwood’s Levi Greenwood.
Martin will miss Saturday’s clash with Port Adelaide but is free to face Sydney the following week after successfully having his two-game ban for striking downgraded by the AFL tribunal.
While Martin didn’t give evidence, his lawyers successfully argued the incident deserved to be classified as low impact, rather than medium.
While Richmond has complained of a perceived lack of protection for Martin, the club is well aware its star midfielder also has a responsibility to manage his emotions.
“He’s just got to take a breath,” Tigers football boss Neil Balme told reporters. “He’s a very, very good player. He gets the treatment because that’s what he is.
“He’s just got to get past it and we’ve got to help him a bit with it.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/dustin-martin-slammed-for-joke-of-an-apology/news-story/e3f90e8be5fbbf7d58c24f5ea1f48a6e
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So Slobbo thinks pretending to do lines of coke is the same as actually doing it!
Get a grip you peanut.
The only people Dusty should apologise to is his teammates and the fans.
He didn’t have to apologise to Mumford. I’m sure they both gave as good as they got.
Slobbo is embarrassing and makes me sick.
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So Slobbo thinks pretending to do lines of coke is the same as actually doing it!
Get a grip you peanut.
The only people Dusty should apologise to is his teammates and the fans.
He didn’t have to apologise to Mumford. I’m sure they both gave as good as they got.
Slobbo is embarrassing and makes me sick.
Believe he’s saying that Dusty’s fine is too high considering it’s over 25% of what Mumford got for actually doing a line when all he did was mimick it.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column...
IF ... Dusty wants to go round dishing out an elbow to an opponent 80 metres off the ball ...
THEN ... he deserves a three-week ban, not one.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-12/sliding-doors-round-four
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column...
IF ... Dusty wants to go round dishing out an elbow to an opponent 80 metres off the ball ...
THEN ... he deserves a three-week ban, not one.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-12/sliding-doors-round-four
Fair bit of difference between ‘throwing an elbow’ and putting a forearm up to get an opponent out of the way. Love how it’s been widely reported as an elbow based on that pixelated crap they call video evidence. If they wanna see an elbow go back and look at concas on Smith.
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IF.... Damien Barrett keeps writing poo articles
THEN ... I will want to punch him in the face 3 times, not once
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
Just seen the footage. Low impact, but intentional.
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I hope Christian gives him 2 weeks based on “how it looked” and the “potential to cause serious injury”
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
Just seen the footage. Low impact, but intentional.
The umpire saw it and didn't even pay a free kick.....
The blow to the body was the harder of the two and that may attract a fine.
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
talk me through the difference between that and dustys hit?
100% deserves a week, but wont get it because its geelong
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
talk me through the difference between that and dustys hit?
100% deserves a week, but wont get it because its geelong
Dusty’s hit was high, low impact and intentional. One week. Can you spot the difference? Clue is the main hit wasn’t high....
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
talk me through the difference between that and dustys hit?
100% deserves a week, but wont get it because its geelong
Dusty’s hit was high, low impact and intentional. One week. Can you spot the difference? Clue is the main hit wasn’t high....
sorry think you need to watch it again. Bloody oath it was high and it was off the ball.
They will argue intent, not if it was high as the back elbow hit him in the head. he will get off because its dangerfield and they can argue it was not intentional.
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I see they are saying that Dangerfield is likely to come under scrutiny for a hit on guess who.....de Boer.
I haven't seen the footage, but this is going to be very interesting to see how it pans out.
Not much in it at all IMHO.
talk me through the difference between that and dustys hit?
100% deserves a week, but wont get it because its geelong
Dusty’s hit was high, low impact and intentional. One week. Can you spot the difference? Clue is the main hit wasn’t high....
The high hit was the second hit and it was just a glance. The player said it was the low blow that winded him.
sorry think you need to watch it again. Bloody oath it was high and it was off the ball.
They will argue intent, not if it was high as the back elbow hit him in the head. he will get off because its dangerfield and they can argue it was not intentional.
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Because it's Dangerfield it will be a fine only or really should be two fines for the double hit, one to the stomach and one to the head plus way off the ball. I know they will argue it was unintentional to the head but where is the line between what you mean and what happened? Last week for Dustin Martin the first impact was to the back of the shoulder so it could be argued there was no intent to make high contact yet high contact was the outcome. Looks the same for Dangerfield, no intent but the outcome was still high.
I think it's likely to be $1500 for the first hit and $2500 for the second if they have to increase the fine for second offence. Will be very interesting to see if the same level of vitriol gets thrown at Danger this week compared to Dusty last week.
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Can't argue unintentional, look what happened to Houli.
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
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What happened to the look of the game this week? :whistle
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Can't argue unintentional, look what happened to Houli.
Apparently didn't make contact..... :gobdrop
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Dusty will have a blinder this week. I'm backing him to play more forward and kick >4 goals.
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
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Or maybe he's a good tagger ala Crowley
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
Well technically he hit both :shh 2 weeks reduced by tribunal down to 1 for the hit on Kennedy and $1500 for the elbow jab to the stomach of De Boer. Danger got $2000 for the first elbow jab (obviously $500 bucks harder hit!) and got nothing at all for the second hit which apparently (very luckily for Danger) missed the target.
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
Well technically he hit both :shh 2 weeks reduced by tribunal down to 1 for the hit on Kennedy and $1500 for the elbow jab to the stomach of De Boer. Danger got $2000 for the first elbow jab (obviously $500 bucks harder hit!) and got nothing at all for the second hit which apparently (very luckily for Danger) missed the target.
What about the look of the second hit and potential to cause harm
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
Well technically he hit both :shh 2 weeks reduced by tribunal down to 1 for the hit on Kennedy and $1500 for the elbow jab to the stomach of De Boer. Danger got $2000 for the first elbow jab (obviously $500 bucks harder hit!) and got nothing at all for the second hit which apparently (very luckily for Danger) missed the target.
Yes, the elbow only warranted a fine but then the backhander was deemed to have missed! So if the backhander missed then why did de Boer go down like a shot Indian holding his head? If the backhander connected then Danger is up for an intentional strike behind play, but if it missed then shouldn't de Boer be up for staging & disrepute? Something went missing this week .... but which one? :huh
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
Well technically he hit both :shh 2 weeks reduced by tribunal down to 1 for the hit on Kennedy and $1500 for the elbow jab to the stomach of De Boer. Danger got $2000 for the first elbow jab (obviously $500 bucks harder hit!) and got nothing at all for the second hit which apparently (very luckily for Danger) missed the target.
What about the look of the second hit and potential to cause harm
It looks bad and can only potentially cause harm only if you have tattoos and wear yellow and black...... :shh
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Dangerfield copped a fine.
Dangerfield was far more fortunate, escaping with a $2000 fine following a spiteful duel with Greater Western Sydney tagger Matt de Boer on Saturday.
The first incident, where Dangerfield caught de Boer with an elbow to the stomach, was graded as intentional conduct with low impact to the body by Michael Christian.
However, Christian chose not to sanction the Cats superstar for the second motion in the same incident, where Dangerfield narrowly missed de Boer's head with a swinging arm.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-15/danger-charged-roo-and-blue-cop-bans
Christian is basically guessing at the moment.
One week it’s the potential to case damage, the next week it’s not even spoken about.
AFL scared of Brownlow night as always.
Imo if Dusty got a week then so should have Dangerfield.
It also tells me that 2 stars in as many weeks that aren’t known for belting blokes have had a go at the same tagger. Could it be he is not playing by the rules??
The only problem is Dusty didn’t hit De Boer, he hit Kennedy.....
Well technically he hit both :shh 2 weeks reduced by tribunal down to 1 for the hit on Kennedy and $1500 for the elbow jab to the stomach of De Boer. Danger got $2000 for the first elbow jab (obviously $500 bucks harder hit!) and got nothing at all for the second hit which apparently (very luckily for Danger) missed the target.
What about the look of the second hit and potential to cause harm
It looks bad and can only potentially cause harm only if you have tattoos and wear yellow and black...... :shh
ohhhhhhhhhhh
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Ablett got a week for his high elbow. So the same penalty as Dusty. The MRO actually showing some consistency :o.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct with Low Impact and High Contact.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-06/match-review-officers-full-report-round-seven
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Ablett got a week for his high elbow. So the same penalty as Dusty. The MRO actually showing some consistency :o.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct with Low Impact and High Contact.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-06/match-review-officers-full-report-round-seven
Dusty got 2 weeks he appealed it down to 1.
Medium impact, it looked bad, potential to cause serious injury don’t apply to Gaz.
No consistency at all.....
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God boy doesn't have tantrums, obviously
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The most infuriating thing about Ablett getting off, is that we all knew he would get off. They were never going to suspend the little homophobe.
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The most infuriating thing about Ablett getting off, is that we all knew he would get off. They were never going to suspend the little homophobe.
Didn’t deserve to be suspended IMO.
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Dusty was off the ball & clearly deliberate. Deserved a week.
Ablett's I would say was legit wreckless at worst and largely in play. Glad he got off in that sense...
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nothing in either of those incidents. If im to take my rfc goggles off dustys was worse, but both deserved a fine
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Fyfe and Ablett again ::) with a high forearm/elbow. Will the MRO go soft on them again?
Fyfe's hit on Lynch: https://twitter.com/AFLcomau/status/1127509493288321024
Ablett's hit: https://twitter.com/AFLcomau/status/1127429975471091712
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Ablett has to be intentional, went straight for his head.
1 for the elbow, 3 for stupidity in doing it again a week after he was cleared.
Fyfe has to get a week too.
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Can Christianson explain how he gave Ablett a suspension last week and nothing this week for the exact same thing? The fact he was cleared at the tribunal shouldn’t make any difference if they are independent of each other like they say they are....
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Protected species these blokes....both Fyfe & Ablett's elbows were far worse than Durdin's bump....perhaps we should just count our blessings after Stack wasn't reported and suspended for injuring Viney.... :shh
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i reckon Ablett gets the benefit of the doubt for last weeks high forearm but not this week. Should have got a week IMO.
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Can Christianson explain how he gave Ablett a suspension last week and nothing this week for the exact same thing? The fact he was cleared at the tribunal shouldn’t make any difference if they are independent of each other like they say they are....
I would class last weeks as worse than the one on Shiels the week before.
Clear cut, 2 weeks down to one.
Amateur hour, although that’s par for the course.
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Watch the video of scablett, after whatsis name Norf player handballs , he literally ignores the ball, and lines the prick up. Do they think we are all stupid arseholes? Cameron Ling looking after his old team mate. What a feed of poo!
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Interesting to watch if Dimma gets on the front foot this week over De Boer's scragging last time he played on Dusty. He wasn't happy after the round 3 loss with the umpiring that day.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was just as agitated as his superstar onballer after the match and questioned his treatment by de Boer off the ball.
"Why do you reckon he might give away that free kick?" he said.
"At the end of the day people come to watch the No.4 play, let the bloke play the game and protect the ball carrier is what I'm saying.
"Don't get me wrong de Boer did a terrific job but geez, hmmm.
"I'm certainly frustrated and I'll be interested to see what the umpiring fraternity says about it."
Despite Hardwick's grievances, he said he won't be following it up with a phone call to the umpiring department this week.
"I don't bother mate, I don't bother," he said.
He did however make his feelings known to the whistle blowers during the match, when he left the coaches box to remonstrate with the emergency umpire over Martin's treatment.
"I was just asking (what is) their responsibility to the ball player," he said.
"I didn't get a response."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-06/watch-dusty-in-hot-water-for-offtheball-hit