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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 14, 2019, 06:51:45 PM
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Expect 90k+ to the season opener now if Betts plays round 1.
Good for us. It's our home game and we'll be unfurling another flag in front of the bluebaggers ;D.
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Thursday, March 19 @ 7:25pm.
Once again the season opener.
afl.com.au
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This season opener is becoming national flag day ;D.
Out of curiosity, where are all our flags kept/displayed? RFC Museum?
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8 point game..... :shh
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Carlton star Charlie Curnow has suffered yet another pre-season setback on his troublesome right knee — after another accidental incident away from the club.
The Blues released a statement on Thursday, confirming Curnow had suffered a fractured patella after slipping on tiles while walking upstairs on Wednesday afternoon.
Curnow’s fresh injury concern will keep him sidelined until the new year and puts the forward in severe doubt for the club’s Round 1 clash with Richmond.
The club said the incident occurred on the same knee, but the slip caused a high-level contraction to his quadriceps muscle. Consequently, a large force went through his whole knee that his patella could not tolerate.
The young Blue is slated to miss a number of months and won’t run until early 2020.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-charlie-curnow-knee-injury-slips-on-tiles-basketball-game-carlton-statement/news-story/b880ecf7e52ae374ec12981d2182b4f9
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Another Carlton tall who will have a limited preseason due to injury. This time it's McKay.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-22/another-blue-blow-tall-forward-on-modified-program-with-groin-issue
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All Betts are on for an upset in the blockbuster season-opener
Ben Collins
afl.com.au
8 December 2019
HE'S 33 and he's coming off two quiet seasons by his lofty standards, but could Eddie Betts be Carlton's good-luck charm in its bid to finally break its hoodoo against reigning premier Richmond in round one?
The veteran small forward, who has returned to the Blues after six seasons with Adelaide, boasts an extraordinary 16-3 record against the Tigers over the past 12 seasons.
What's more, Betts' average winning margin against Richmond is an emphatic 45 points.
Most tellingly, the last time Betts played for the Blues against the Tigers – in the 2013 first elimination final – resulted in Carlton's most recent victory over its old rival.
In their six seasons without Betts, the Blues haven't played another final and haven't beaten Richmond.
In fact, Carlton is enduring its longest losing streak against Richmond, succumbing in each of its past nine clashes by an average of 26 points.
In their past two encounters the Blues have been goalless at quarter-time, an area Betts might well rectify himself given he has kicked first-quarter goals in 10 of his previous 19 games against Richmond.
The little genius also enjoyed a strong record against the Tigers as a Crow, winning five of seven games. However, it must be pointed out that five of these contests were fought at Adelaide Oval, where the Crows prevailed 4-1.
The Crows' only other loss to the Tigers in this period was, of course, the crushing 48-point capitulation in the 2017 Grand Final.
Over the past 12 years Betts has been held goalless against Richmond just once, and that was in a winning team in round two, 2018, when Adelaide triumphed by six goals and exacted some degree of revenge for the Grand Final defeat.
Now that the popular Betts is back at Carlton and he has slipped back into his old No.19 guernsey, the Blues hope he can also recapture some of his old magic, while providing his young team with crucial leadership and big-game experience.
And it certainly promises to be a big game against the Tigers in round one.
Betts v Richmond while at Carlton 2008-2013
Result Margin When Venue Betts
W 30 R1, 2008 MCG 2.1
W 30 R14, 2008 MCG 2.1
W 83 R1, 2009 MCG 5.0
W 20 R15, 2009 MCG 1.1 & 3 GA
W 56 R1, 2010 MCG 3.3 & 2 GA
W 89 R20, 2010 MCG 2.2 & 3 GA
W 20 R1, 2011 MCG 3.3 & 3 GA
W 103 R15, 2011 MCG 5.2 & 2 GA
W 44 R1, 2012 MCG 2.3 & 2 GA
W 4 R18, 2012 MCG 4.1
L 5 R1, 2013 MCG 2.0
W 20 EF, 2013 MCG 3.2 & 1 GA
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11-1 45 ave. 34.19 & 16 GA
Betts v Richmond while at Adelaide 2014-19
Result Margin When Venue Betts
L 10 R21, 2014 AO 2.0
W 36 R19, 2015 AO 2.3
W 36 R3, 2016 Docklands 3.1 & 2 GA
W 76 R6, 2017 AO 1.1
L 48 GF, 2017 MCG 1.2
W 36 R2, 2018 AO 0.0 & 2 GA
W 33 R13, 2019 AO 2.0 & 1 GA
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5-2 43 ave. 11.7 & 5 GA
*GA – goal assists
Carlton v Richmond 2014-19
Result Margin When Venue
L 12 R2, 2014 MCG
L 27 R1, 2015 MCG
L 30 R15, 2015 MCG
L 9 R1, 2016 MCG
L 43 R1, 2017 MCG
L 26 R14, 2017 MCG
L 26 R1, 2018 MCG
L 33 R1, 2019 MCG
L 28 R21, 2019 MCG
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0-9 26 ave.
Information supplied by AFL statistician and historian Stephen Rodgers.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/266501/all-betts-are-on-for-an-upset-in-the-blockbuster-season-opener
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We'll flig them again. Tiges by 48 running away and doing it easy.
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We won in R1, 2008. That was Judd's first game for them and we upset their party with Richo kicking 5 from memory.
Even looking at those stats, Betts hasn't done anything against us since 2016. That's 4 seasons ago! He's now 33 not 23 and we're not the crap side of a decade ago which would easily crack in big games.
As for the Adelaide figures - we won when it mattered :veryhappy :rollin.
No wonder Crows fans sook about the MCG. How dare we actually play a game against them there over the past 5 years ::). Must be that #VicBias :nopity.
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Hilarious.
Gearing up for their 2020 R1 grand final.
Meanwhile Richmond will probably be nursing some bodies back in, playing some kids, easing into another premiership campaign...
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100 days until we unfurl the flag in Round 1 :thumbsup
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELYgkg5UUAE17Z_?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Carlton has confirmed emerging star Charlie Curnow will miss the start of the season as he recovers from knee surgery.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton/charlie-curnow-will-miss-start-of-season-harry-mckay-to-join-main-training/news-story/65df58552f75527873fee3be70528235
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Carlscum's premiership campaign off to a good start :D
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All Betts are on for an upset in the blockbuster season-opener
Betts v Richmond while at Carlton 2008-2013
Result Margin When Venue Betts
W 30 R1, 2008 MCG 2.1
W 30 R14, 2008 MCG 2.1
W 83 R1, 2009 MCG 5.0
W 20 R15, 2009 MCG 1.1 & 3 GA
W 56 R1, 2010 MCG 3.3 & 2 GA
W 89 R20, 2010 MCG 2.2 & 3 GA
W 20 R1, 2011 MCG 3.3 & 3 GA
W 103 R15, 2011 MCG 5.2 & 2 GA
W 44 R1, 2012 MCG 2.3 & 2 GA
W 4 R18, 2012 MCG 4.1
L 5 R1, 2013 MCG 2.0
W 20 EF, 2013 MCG 3.2 & 1 GA
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11-1 45 ave. 34.19 & 16 GA
Information supplied by AFL statistician and historian Stephen Rodgers.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/266501/all-betts-are-on-for-an-upset-in-the-blockbuster-season-opener
Stephen Rodgers got one thing wrong.
We won the opener in 2008 (Judds first game as a Blue).
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Stephen Rodgers got one thing wrong.
We won the opener in 2008 (Judds first game as a Blue).
Yes, and I will never forget the front page the day after.
It had a picture of Richo and said something along the lines of 'On Friday night XX,XXX people jammed into the MCG to see a superstar. Judd was there too...'
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Really looking forward to this now. Days are passing and we are getting closer.
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Toby Nankervis (groin surgery) and Jack Graham (shoulder reconstruction) are both on track to play in Round 1.
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-could-lead-the-charge-for-bushfire-relief-with-up-to-six-players-likely-chosen/news-story/3d69d9c68aec52526152ecf247fa1c6f)
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Only 5 weeks until round 1 :thumbsup.
The young guns primed for a Round 1 debut
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
13 February 2020
RICHMOND
Uncapped second-year midfielder Riley Collier-Dawkins has had a flawless pre-season after an excellent VFL finals series and is ready to take the next step, but competition for spots in the midfield has never been harder.
As the Tigers joked yesterday, they will likely find a spot for one-gamer Marlion Pickett, while marking tall Callum Coleman-Jones has taken another step after a single game in 2019.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/the-players-primed-for-a-round-1-debut-from-your-club/news-story/232edc8acea8e1be9b41ce9a586fbc27
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Only two weeks to go :gotigers.
Ultimate guide: Your club’s best 22 for Round 1
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
5 March 2020
RICHMOND
B: Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Jayden Short
C: Kane Lambert, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy
HF: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton
F: Daniel Rioli, Tom Lynch, Jason Castagna
FOLL: Ivan Soldo, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Liam Baker, Callum Coleman-Jones, Marlion Pickett, Sydney Stack
WHO MISSED OUT
Patrick Naish, Jack Graham, Ryan Garthwaite, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Ross, Tom Dow, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Jack Higgins, Oleg Markov, Toby Nankervis, Noah Balta, Mabior Chol,
RALPHY SAYS
Brandon Ellis’ spot is up for grabs and Toby Nankervis’ slow summer with groin issues means it remains to be seen whether the club plays two rucks in Round 1 against Carlton.
Otherwise the Tigers appear well settled given the kids didn’t really take their chances in the loss to Collingwood in Wangaratta.
Jack Higgins isn’t yet in the best 22 by Damien Hardwick’s own admission, while Marlion Pickett is now clearly in the best side after a summer franking his Grand Final performance with quality match simulation showings.
Ryan Garthwaite is the next cab off the rank should one of the key defenders go down.
Riley Collier-Dawkins was poor last week but has had a massive summer, while the club’s first pick from last November looked at home late in that game but when the sting was clearly out of the contest.
Josh Caddy continues to play half back and wing 18 months after his dominant season as a medium-sized forward, but with Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch as the key pillars there just isn’t a spot for him up forward.
The club has huge hopes for Callum Coleman-Jones as a ruckman and marking forward.
Some insiders at the club believe he is a huge chance to stay in the team in Round 1 as the third tall who also plays second ruck behind Soldo.
Meanwhile Noah Balta and Mabior Chol have huge talent but again will need to work their way into the side when injuries hit.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/ultimate-guide-check-out-what-your-clubs-round-1-team-could-look-like/news-story/2253ce361b81659e3a3c31c59ba460d8
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Assuming Lambert and Bolts are okay :pray and that Nank & Graham don't play as they haven't played any Marsh series games.
CCJ & Stack in the round 1 side for Nank & Ellis from the GF side.
B: Broad Astbury Grimes
HB: Houli Vlastuin Short
C: Caddy Cotchin Lambert
HF: Bolton Riewoldt Rioli
F: Castagna Lynch Martin
R: Soldo Prestia Edwards
Int: Coleman-Jones, Baker, Stack, Pickett
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Blues fans' opinions on how they'll go against us in round 1 after Carlton coughed up a 4 goal lead to Brisbane yesterday to lose by 45 points.
Well, our form as a team is pretty ordinary at the moment.
You never know though...
Terrible preseason form but it's that preseason
Having said that can't see us beating many teams without H or Charlie playing forward
Let's hope they lift but underwhelmed at the moment
This could get ugly. Really ugly.
Ouch!
Tend to agree. Quite concerned.
https://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36801&sid=9fdb3ad4691152f7ac2592d40e34b1b9&start=60
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That’s pretty much this forum circa 2016 ......
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Assuming Lambert and Bolts are okay :pray and that Nank & Graham don't play as they haven't played any Marsh series games.
CCJ & Stack in the round 1 side for Nank & Ellis from the GF side.
B: Broad Astbury Grimes
HB: Houli Vlastuin Short
C: Caddy Cotchin Lambert
HF: Bolton Riewoldt Rioli
F: Castagna Lynch Martin
R: Soldo Prestia Edwards
Int: Coleman-Jones, Baker, Stack, Pickett
I agree - same players but slightly different:
Vlastuin Astbury Grimes
Stack Broard Houli
Bolton Pickett Caddy
Edwards Riewoldt Rioli
Cstagna Martin Lynch
Soldo Cotchin Prestia
Lambert Short Baker CCJ
:gotigers
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The Tigers now have an 11-day turnaround before the season opener and look likely to have their entire list available for selection.
"Toby Nankervis played full minutes yesterday in the VFL, Jack Graham and Kamdyn McIntosh also played some good minutes," Hardwick said.
"Kane Lambert had concussion today so he didn't play the remainder of the game, but other that than, I think we're a clean bill of health."
Source: AFL media (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/573696/tigers-still-have-room-to-improve)
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I hope they nurse Graham. He's injury prone but key.
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I hope they nurse Graham. He's injury prone but key.
This is why he is not my favourite player.
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Yeah I hate him because he's hard at the football. What a wanker, trade him
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I hope they nurse Graham. He's injury prone but key.
This is why he is not my favourite player.
He isn't injury prone >:(
Yeah I hate him because he's hard at the football. What a wanker, trade him
Yeah, you maybe right. Might be our only option. Two discolated shoulders... ::)
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B: Broad Astbury Grimes
HB: Houli Vlastuin Stack
C: Caddy Edwards Lambert
HF: Bolton Lynch Riewoldt
F: Castagna Martin Rioli
R: Soldo Prestia Cotchin
Int: Coleman-Jones, Baker, Short, Pickett
Honestly feel like we are spoiled for choice.
I'd be happy to see Dusty at FF, Lynch at CHF, Jack on a flank and pushing up the wing.
Not sure about Caddy and Lambert on the wings though...
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Remarkable Richmond have everyone available for round one
Jake Niall
The Age
11 March 2020
Premiership teams often carry surgeries and injuries into the following season but Richmond, remarkably, will enter the season with virtually no injuries and a full list, with the notable exception of retired champion defender Alex Rance.
At this stage, the Tigers expect to have every player – bar Rance – available for selection on their list for the season opener against Carlton, with recovering players Toby Nankervis and Jack Graham slated to play in a VFL practice game at Punt Rd on Friday.
Richmond's remarkable run with injury over the pre-season is somewhat of a contrast with the Blues, who will enter the season and the first game without key forwards Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay and with oft-injured tall defender Caleb Marchbank (knee) in doubt. Lachie Plowman (ankle and Sam Petrevski-Seton (quad) are listed as needing to undergo fitness tests.
For Carlton, the issue is not the number of injuries so much as the fact that they will not have either of their preferred key position forwards, and will rely on Mitch McGovern and possibly Levi Casboult to fill the breach, with Charlie Curnow expected to miss much of the opening half of the season due to a knee injury. McKay has a groin problem.
Richmond's Graham (shoulder) and Nankervis (adductor) are expected to play Coburg in a VFL practice match on Friday evening (7pm) at Pund Rd, along with Kamdyn McIntosh. Nankervis and Graham are still in the mix to play against the Blues in the AFL's season opener on March 19, with the Tigers having adopted a two-ruck set-up in their barnstorming run to the premiership last year, as Ivan Soldo and Nankervis formed a tandem.
Richmond's continued ability to keep most of their best team on the field has been instrumental in their run of success since 2017, the Tigers overcoming an early-season run of injuries last year – when Rance, then Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt were sidelined – then regained those players (Rance aside) for the final stretch of the home and away season and the finals.
Jack Higgins has recovered well from a worrisome head injury that included bleeding to the brain, having played at senior level in the Marsh series, but has little prospect of playing the Blues in the first game.
Second-year ruck Callum Coleman-Jones is also considered a chance to come in and play, depending on how Nankervis fares.
The Blues will bring in Gold Coast recruit Jack Martin, who can play a mix of forward and midfield. Martin showcased his considerable talent against the Brisbane Lions last Sunday night.
Former Saint Jack Newnes is a strong chance to make his debut for Carlton against Richmond.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/remarkable-richmond-have-everyone-available-for-round-one-20200311-p548yi.html
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AFL considers postponing opening round
By Mark Robinson
Herald-Sun/Australian
March 13, 2020
The AFL is considering all options in the face of the escalating coronavirus crisis, including the extreme measure of postponing round 1.
While the league is still preparing for the season-opener to go ahead next Thursday before paying fans, chief executive Gillon McLachlan is chairing daily emergency briefings with clubs, the government and health groups.
But with the growing threat of coronavirus, it is understood that, as of last night, the AFL couldn’t guarantee Thursday’s match between Richmond and Carlton will go ahead.
“This is not moving by the day, this is moving by the hour,’’ an AFL source said. “There are some big calls to make.
“We are continuing to take advice from government and from the relevant medical authorities and we are planning for the season to go ahead on March 19.’’
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-considers-postponing-opening-round/news-story/14eb562820aab901e57644e7e31ada6a
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MOCK TEAMS: Who's in the 22 for R1? We make the call
Jennifer Phelan & Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
13 March 2020
RICHMOND
B: Dylan Grimes, David Astbury, Nathan Broad
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Jayden Short
C: Josh Caddy, Dion Prestia, Shane Edwards
HF: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Kane Lambert
F: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Jason Castagna
Foll: Ivan Soldo, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin
I/C: Callum Coleman-Jones, Marlion Pickett, Sydney Stack, Liam Baker
EMERG: Riley Collier-Dawkins, Noah Balta, Jack Ross, Jack Higgins
NEW: Nil
UNAVAILABLE: Jack Graham (shoulder) Kamdyn McIntosh (ankle), Toby Nankervis (groin)
NOTES: Graham, McIntosh and Nankervis are set to play a VFL practice match the weekend ahead of round one and are building after pre-season injuries but look to have narrowly run out of time for the season-opener. Coleman-Jones is deserving of a spot after an impressive summer and has edged out Balta and also Mabior Chol while Collier-Dawkins is stiff to miss but will play at some stage this year. Ross will work his way back into the team when the opportunity arises after being strongly considered for the Grand Final.
CARLTON
B: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman
HB: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Liam Jones, Kade Simpson
C: Sam Walsh, Patrick Cripps, Will Setterfield
HF: Jack Martin, Mitch McGovern, Zac Fisher
F: Michael Gibbons, Levi Casboult, Eddie Betts
FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
I/C: Nic Newman, Jack Newnes, Jack Silvagni, Paddy Dow
EMERG: Tom Williamson, Marc Pittonet, Matthew Kennedy, David Cuningham
NEW: Jack Martin, Eddie Betts, Jack Newnes
UNAVAILABLE: Harry McKay (groin), Brodie Kemp (knee), Caleb Marchbank (knee), Charlie Curnow (knee)
NOTES: The big concern has shifted from McKay, who will almost certainly miss round one through a groin injury, to Marchbank. The key defender is battling a knock to the knee, which could prove one hurdle too far after a pre-season that was delayed by a neck injury. Petrevski-Seton is likely to make the team, having played a half in a VFL practice match last week as he returns from a quad problem. Newman should win the seventh defensive spot ahead of Williamson and Cam Polson, while the versatility of Silvagni and Dow might edge them ahead of emergencies Kennedy and Cunningham. Fellow first-round picks including Liam Stocker, Sam Philp and Lochie O'Brien will be in reserve. Casboult will support Kreuzer as the second ruckman, with Pittonet just ahead of Tom De Koning as an emergency.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/384196/mock-teams-who-s-in-the-22-for-r1-we-make-the-call
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hard to see round 1 happening now
:banghead
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Certainly won't be any fans attending you wouldn't think.
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I can't see it stopping at round one either. Certainly the first month would be in doubt if this continues to spread.
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I can't see it stopping at round one either. Certainly the first month would be in doubt if this continues to spread.
This would give a huge advantage to the fitest team with the smallest injury list.
😁
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Certainly won't be any fans attending you wouldn't think.
^^^^ this
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
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This is going to cost clubs millions of dollars in lost gate takings
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AFL meeting on now.
The AFL is expected to reveal the fate of round one and the start of the 2020 season in a phone hook-up with its 18 clubs at 2pm on Friday afternoon.
... unconfirmed reports from industry sources this afternoon suggested the AFL was already leaning towards postponing the start of the season.
The preferred model would see the opening games postponed until late April.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/d-day-arrives-afl-set-to-inform-clubs-of-seasons-fate-with-2pm-hook-up-c-743345
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
I cant find this. Can you please quote your source.
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
I cant find this. Can you please quote your source.
Reporting this on SEN.
Also mentioned here: https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351
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SEN saying the AFL's preference is to still start the season which would mean in front of empty stands.
Apparently a player at a "big Melbourne club" was sent for testing last night but it came back negative. He just had an ordinary cold.
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Balmey this morning (before the crowd ban):
“What the hell do we do then?”: Balme admits Tigers in precarious position
By SEN
13 March 2020
Neil Balme says the major worry with coronavirus is that if just one player contracts the virus, the whole AFL competition could be called off or postponed.
As COVID-19 continues to wreak havoc with the sporting landscape, there is enormous uncertainty surrounding the 2020 season which is due to kick off on Thursday, March 19 when Richmond host Carlton at the MCG.
Balme, Richmond's Senior Club Advisor, expects the season opener to go ahead in front of a crowd but is none the wiser as to what will happen thereafter.
“I think there will be (a crowd) then but I can’t guarantee anything after that,” he said on SEN SA Breakfast.
“It’s a crazy thing and it’s hard to manage. It’s hard to know what the impact on the community is going to be.
“The scary thing for us is that if all of a sudden one of our players came down with the disease, what the hell do we do then?
“Everyone is kind of then involved and everyone sort of can’t play, if you know what I mean.
“That’s the thing from our point of view. We’ll be over-conservative, try and make sure we protect our playing group and our coaches etc from having to be involved in too many other things out in the community, just in case.
“There’s a certain inevitability about most of us seeing the disease at some stage but as long as we’ve got the facilities to look after it.
“Essentially, what we are trying to do is put off anything too serious. All of a sudden if everyone needs to be treated, we are probably not going to be able to do it (play).
“Part of our strategy is just to try and minimise as much as we can and see what happens.
“None of us really know the answer or know what’s going to happen.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/12/what-the-hell-do-we-do-then-balme-admits-tigers-in-precarious-position/
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
I cant find this. Can you please quote your source.
Reporting this on SEN.
Also mentioned here: https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351 (https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351)
OK "expected to"
A fast moving mass of goo is what we have.
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Mark Stevens (@Stevo7AFL) · Twitter
Financial losses to clubs playing in empty stadiums so great, hearing a 4-6 week delay more palatable. Whatever, footy finds a way.
Four week delay or no crowds. Crunch coming. What would you, the fan, prefer? Two byes mid season and pre finals gives wriggle room.
https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
I cant find this. Can you please quote your source.
Reporting this on SEN.
Also mentioned here: https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351 (https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351)
OK "expected to"
A fast moving mass of goo is what we have.
If Murphy says mass gatherings (>500 people) should be cancelled then they will be cancelled. All governments are adhering to the medical advice. There's a Fed presser soon (Morrison & Murphy) to officially confirm it.
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Don't think this will be over in 2 months so i'm not sure the '2 months delay' thing will work.
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All mass gatherings banned by the Feds.
So this won't go ahead unless it's played in an empty MCG.
I cant find this. Can you please quote your source.
Reporting this on SEN.
Also mentioned here: https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351 (https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-mass-gatherings-of-more-than-500-expected-to-be-banned-c-743351)
OK "expected to"
A fast moving mass of goo is what we have.
If Murphy says mass gatherings (>500 people) should be cancelled then they will be cancelled. All governments are adhering to the medical advice. There's a Fed presser soon (Morrison & Murphy) to officially confirm it.
Mass gathering ban starts Monday.
“We will be advising against organised, non-essential gatherings of 500 persons or greater from Monday,” Prime Minister Scott Morrison said.
“These events that we are seeking to advise against and restrict are for non-essential gatherings.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/coronavirus-impact-on-sport-latest-coronavirus-news-impact-on-sports-leagues-afl-nrl-tokyo-olympics-football-tennis-f1/news-story/af35f4955b010d3222809f06a224b6b1
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AFL presser at 5:30pm.
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It's being reported that the NRL will continue to play their games after this weekend (from round 2 onwards) behind closed doors.
So that's a potential portent to what the AFL will do.
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AFL presser at 5:30pm.
The presser has been cancelled. Media down at AFL HQ for nothing.
SEN now saying the AFL will think about it over the weekend and will wait until Monday to make a decision.
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Whateley on SEN just said his "intimate source that's close to this sort of thing" is saying that the favoured option as of now is to proceed with the season as is but with no crowds.
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Whateley on SEN just said his "intimate source that's close to this sort of thing" is saying that the favoured option as of now is to proceed with the season as is but with no crowds.
Selfishly, that would be my preference
I've got 6 interstate flights & accommodation booked as well as RFC Functions paid for @ GWS,Brisbane & GC games, hopefully the threat will be dealt with soon
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Confirmed by the AFL. Round 1 to go ahead but without crowds (for now).
THE AFL plans to play round one of the 2020 season as scheduled, but without spectators in stadiums.
After a series of meetings which began before 7am Friday, the AFL commission on Friday evening told its clubs it intended to play all nine matches of round one, as fixtured, as the first part of the contingency plans required to deal with the Coronavirus outbreak which is sweeping the world.
It has, though, reserved the right to revisit that decision as new information from federal and state governments, and medical health authorities, comes to hand.
The AFL is preparing to reschedule all matches beyond round one, as it knows it will almost certainly have to indefinitely shut down its competition to deal with the Coronavirus outbreak.
There are effectively four weeks of wiggle room for the AFL in the 2020 season, in order to squeeze in the 198 matches – the two bye rounds (the one each club gets midway through the season and the one post round 23) as well as the two weeks after the Grand Final (September 26), before the MCG needs to be handed back to cricket authorities for a T20 World Cup tournament.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/384878/coronavirus-crisis-afl-makes-call-on-round-one
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With still 6 days to go and how fast this is progressing, it wouldn't surprise me if this changes again before then. This time last week the Grand Prix was going ahead with crowds and now it's been cancelled. Only takes one player to catch it before Thursday night and the start of the season will mostly likely be postponed.
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Would’ve made more sense to start the season 5 rounds late and trial the 17 round year at the same time.
Anyways, I’ll be interested to see how the Eagles go getting free kicks at home with no one in it
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This is going to be going on for months, especially given the southern hemisphere is entering flu season soon as opposed to the top end. The symptoms are identical so it will be a nightmare once that hits too.
I can see no crowds for half or more of the year, no problem. If players etc get sick it wouldn't surprise me if the season goes on hold.
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Essendon fans should be getting excited.... the May Premiership could constitute the actual Premiership this year..... :shh
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Lockdown coming.
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Would’ve made more sense to start the season 5 rounds late and trial the 17 round year at the same time.
Anyways, I’ll be interested to see how the Eagles go getting free kicks at home with no one in it
This will go on until they find a vaccine. Even if they find one now there are protocols to test which takes months and then live trials that takes even more months. The best guess as to when one will be available is this time next year.
2 weeks 5 weeks or 10 weeks is not going to long enough.
Only two courses of action is to cancel the season or start with no crowds and see how this all unfolds
The biggest defence against many many deaths is to limit the speed of the spread of the contagion so that our medical capabilities are not overwhelmed
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Would’ve made more sense to start the season 5 rounds late and trial the 17 round year at the same time.
Anyways, I’ll be interested to see how the Eagles go getting free kicks at home with no one in it
This will go on until they find a vaccine. Even if they find one now there are protocols to test which takes months and then live trials that takes even more months. The best guess as to when one will be available is this time next year.
2 weeks 5 weeks or 10 weeks is not going to long enough.
Only two courses of action is to cancel the season or start with no crowds and see how this all unfolds
The biggest defence against many many deaths is to limit the speed of the spread of the contagion so that our medical capabilities are not overwhelmed
im betting against this, and predicting it will be all over or at least grinds to a halt within 2 months. :gotigers
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Worse comes to worst the AFL should just reschedule the season so everyone plays each other only once , that makes the season as fair as possible, is only five less games and with the bye/split rounds, allows for a six week shut down window, which should be more than enough...of course if we then go back to back cue the chorus of "not a real flag" from salty oppo flogs..... :shh
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Playing in front of crowds should at least give North a massive advantage... :shh
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Fans to get refunds for round one tickets
By Adam Curley
afl.com.au
14 March 2020
In a statement released by League boss Gillon McLachlan, the AFL said that spectators who have purchased tickets for round one via Ticketmaster and Ticketek will receive a refund.
No decision has been made on how members of any club, AFL or venue will be affected, but the statement said that those involved will be informed in coming days.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/385056/fans-to-get-refunds-for-round-one-tickets
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I now favor a 17 game season and then a final 5 finals series.
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Eddie Betts out.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/385122/blue-blow-veteran-goalkicker-to-miss-opening-rounds-of-season
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New document reveals updated ‘shutdown’ timeline as AFL plots drastic measures
Glenn Valencich and Tom Browne
7 News
Saturday, 14 March 2020 5:21 pm
Concerned about a government-enforced shutdown, the AFL is attempting to secure fast-turnaround coronavirus tests to safeguard the league against an outbreak that could prematurely postpone the season.
The AFL is preparing to radically adjust upcoming games and the 2020 fixture to complete as many games as possible in a short space of time.
While previous predictions have suggested April and May could be the peak infection period, the AFL’s timeline for a potential government-enforced break focuses on June and July.
That expectation has forced mass changes to contingency plans for the coming months, with league headquarters itself weighing up separating employees into ‘A’ and ‘B’ teams to limit the effect of an outbreak.
A number of proposals have been circulated in a document obtained by 7NEWS on Saturday.
With the primary aim protecting broadcast funds in the wake of lost game-day revenue, 7NEWS understands the key measures include:
Forcing teams to play 4-5 games in a three-week period
Squeezing the fixture to play all 198 home-and-away games
Shortening games, adding rotations and extending the interchange bench
Informing players they must stay home from university and study online
Promoting good hygiene and social distancing to limit the spread
Round one will begin on Thursday behind closed doors after the league was forced to close the gates, with the Australian government recommending the cancellation of non-essential gatherings of 500 people or more.
Source: 7 News website
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Should the AFL have some ambient noise playing through their speaker system like crowd noise after a goal??
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Playing in front of crowds should at least give North a massive advantage... :shh
And Hawthorn now that they aren’t winning premierships “supporters” aren’t attending anymore :rollin
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Pendlebury is in self-isolation.
Pies' AFL skipper reportedly in self-isolation
AAP
16 March 2020
Collingwood captain Scott Pendlebury is reportedly in self-isolation away from his teammates after exhibiting flu-like symptoms.
It is unknown whether the 32-year-old has been tested for COVID-19.
According to a News Corp report, Pendlebury has missed two training sessions.
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Tigers captain Trent Cotchin said the cancellation and postponement of sporting competitions around the world "raises an alarm" for the AFL.
He predicted it would be an "eerie" feeling to play in front of no fans.
"For me, first and foremost, the health and safety of our players is absolutely paramount and then that obviously extends to our families and so forth as well," Richmond skipper Cotchin told SEN on Monday.
"So I would like to think that the decisions that are being made are purely the safest decisions and not based around just getting just a show on for our fans."
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28908165/pies-afl-skipper-reportedly-quarantine
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Richmond has the most to lose in 2020, being the frontrunner...
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Quick let's panic load up at coles as pendles has the uumm flu
What a massive load of poo of this game doesn't go ahead behind clothes doors
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What a massive load of poo of this game doesn't go ahead behind clothes doors
Bit hard to play footy in a wardrobe...:shh
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Gill presser @ 5:30pm.
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Official 17 round season :shh
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Know within 24 hours if round 1 goes ahead.
17 round season. First 4 rounds as currently fixtured. Gives AFL time to regig rest of draw.
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If a player contracts corona then that round suspended and they don't restart for 14 days.
Supplementry lists to be made available.
State leagues suspended until May 31.
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AFL Players to hook up tonight to decide if they want to play.
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Mark Stevens on Talking Footy:
16 min quarters + time on according to a club source.
50 players per list.
No guarantee Grand Final will be at the MCG.
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Pure stupidity by afl suspend the league easily solved just opens can.of worms now.
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Players have just agreed to play.
source: sam mcclure footy classified
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Let us play: Blues and Tigers keen to ‘get this show on the road’
March 17, 2020
Ben Waterworth
FOX SPORTS
Both Richmond and Carlton have declared they’re both prepared and willing to kick-off the 2020 AFL season on Thursday night.
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan confirmed on Monday that the scheduled 23-round season would be reduced to 17 games, with every team to play each other once.
The match-ups and venues for the first scheduled four rounds won’t change, allowing the league to adjust the fixture for remaining 13 rounds.
However McLachlan stopped short of guaranteeing that the Tigers and Blues would play on Thursday night.
But speaking on Fox Footy’s AFL 360, Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said he and his team were keen to play sooner rather than later.
“I think from my perspective and our team’s perspective, I’d love for it to go ahead. I know the situation and the broader role we have to play in that. But I think it’ll be great to get up and going and get the season started,” Hardwick told AFL 360.
“Our players have done a hell of a lot of work and we understand the reason and the broader risks to the greater community and the health and wellbeing of our players. But we’d love to play.
Hardwick later added: “The great thing about the AFL environment is our ability to accept. We understand the season is going to be compromised in some way, but what we do is we play our part and we’re prepared to put on the season and give it our best shot.
“We’ll do whatever we can to do our part and get this show on the road.”
Teague said he’d asked several Carlton players about the possibility of playing Thursday and “so far everyone was really keen to play”.
“You do a lot of pre-season and these guys have put a lot of work in, so they’ve been looking forward to this moment. My gut feeling is most of them are really keen to get out there and play this weekend,” Teague told AFL 360.
Teague said he didn’t believe his players feared running out onto the MCG Thursday night.
“I know there’s a lot of information going around at the moment. To be honest, I think the players are taking that in,” he said.
“The uncertainty and the fact it’s changing, there maybe some players that do have some doubts and some thoughts about it. But none of that has come forward in our groups — and we’ve given them the opportunity to speak up.
“We’re preparing to play Thursday night. If it changes it changes and whenever the next game is — if we do play Thursday — we’ll just need to make sure we’re ready. But everyone’s going to be in the same boat.”
If the two teams do play on Thursday night, Blues veteran Eddie Betts won’t be there due to a calf injury.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-richmond-v-carlton-round-1-mcg-damien-hardwick-david-teague-afl-360/news-story/3c5e5132bb1d4069ead2e0bfc5015383
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Dimma said he will coach from the boundary as he can yell out to the players without the crowd. So more like park footy.
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Houli out
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Houli out
Here we go...cue the soft tissue injuries, next minute he's cooked :( :( :( :( :(
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Yes just ask Lids what it's like to have calf issues over 30. Who comes in??
Baker back to defence and Ross comes in maybe?
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So what if the AFL makes sure all players and club officials under 50 contract the virus in one hit/at same time and have a 5/6 week delay then start the season?
Only works if once you get it you are immune from re-infection
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So what if the AFL makes sure all players and club officials under 50 contract the virus in one hit/at same time and have a 5/6 week delay then start the season?
Only works if once you get it you are immune from re-infection
Unfortunately you’re not immune from getting it twice!
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So what if the AFL makes sure all players and club officials under 50 contract the virus in one hit/at same time and have a 5/6 week delay then start the season?
Only works if once you get it you are immune from re-infection
Haha, the rate of infection is 2-3 people per case, so by voluntarily infecting close to 1,000 people you would be more or less directly causing the deaths of 10-50 people!
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So what if the AFL makes sure all players and club officials under 50 contract the virus in one hit/at same time and have a 5/6 week delay then start the season?
Only works if once you get it you are immune from re-infection
Haha, the rate of infection is 2-3 people per case, so by voluntarily infecting close to 1,000 people you would be more or less directly causing the deaths of 10-50 people!
Not so. Young fit people without any of the pre illness conditions are reportedly likely not to have much of a concern.
Older people over 70 and with existing illnesses make up the bulk of deaths. Death rate in this group is over 20%.
But if you can be re-infected it is not an option.
England is going about this in a completely different way. They have quarantined all older people and are willing to let the virus work its way through the younger population.
Time will tell if they are right
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Tomorrow is the day,. Round one no chance. If that happens you can kiss the first 4-6 weeks goodbye.
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So what if the AFL makes sure all players and club officials under 50 contract the virus in one hit/at same time and have a 5/6 week delay then start the season?
Only works if once you get it you are immune from re-infection
Haha, the rate of infection is 2-3 people per case, so by voluntarily infecting close to 1,000 people you would be more or less directly causing the deaths of 10-50 people!
Not so. Young fit people without any of the pre illness conditions are reportedly likely not to have much of a concern.
Older people over 70 and with existing illnesses make up the bulk of deaths. Death rate in this group is over 20%.
But if you can be re-infected it is not an option.
England is going about this in a completely different way. They have quarantined all older people and are willing to let the virus work its way through the younger population.
Time will tell if they are right
If the infection rate is 2-3 people per case, and you are intentionally infection up to 1,000 young males, then they will infect a further 2-3,000 people in general - which will result in probably 50-odd deaths most of which will likely be older people.
Fwiw I am basically on the front line as a nurse unit manager in a hospital run by the largest health provider in the state!
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The feds may decide what happens next for the AFL. Talk of reducing mass gatherings further to <100.
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The AFL will wait until Wednesday to make a decision on whether round one goes ahead as planned amid ongoing uncertainty surrounding the coronavirus crisis, as the players push for a full home-and-away campaign of 22 matches per club.
"The players want to play, the players will do everything they can," Mr Marsh said.
"They still have optimism of a 22-game season here.
"We've got a 40-week window and players will make sacrifices around scheduling and leave, and everything else to try to give the industry a chance of surviving this or getting through this."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-afl-delays-decision-on-season-opener/12063152
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Won't/shouldn't happen.
They should push the season back 2 months and cut to 17 rounds with no bye - try to finish things up in Oct/Nov instead of Sept. But even that would be optimistic IMO.
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why shouldnt it happen? Bizarre comment
36 blokes running around vrs gatherings of 100/500 what is the difference. Either they do it properly or stfu and let them play
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why shouldnt it happen? Bizarre comment
36 blokes running around vrs gatherings of 100/500 what is the difference. Either they do it properly or stfu and let them play
Exactly. Do it properly > lockdown.
I want my footy season as much as anyone but pushing to continue at the moment is absurd, and from the AFL + player's perspective is 100% driven by money.
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all for the lockdown, to end this charade, but as it stands right now there isnt one so why not play on.
I find it quite funny that we are trying to lock down this and lock down that and on saturday i was a bar with 300 people in it.
Italy are a good example of what not to do and thats just delay the inevitable, but trying to plug holes. Go hard lock us up or shut the stuff up
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No change to <500 ppl rule for outdoor gatherings.
<100 ppl rule for non-essential indoor gatherings now introduced by the Feds.
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ps. Feds now saying they expect this will most likely last for at least 6 months.
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Government going to leave the decision to play matches to the AFL.
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3aw saying there will be decision at midday.
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Paul Marsh said round 1 is unlikely to go ahead based on the PM's announcements today.
source: 3aw/nine news at noon.
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I'd be surprised if the season started in the next few months
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Yeah this ain't happening anytime soon.... :shh
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Foxsports reporting that Richmond players have been told 'game on'.
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Government will decide not the AFL..... :shh
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Government will decide not the AFL..... :shh
The Government basically gave it the go ahead this morning....
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Government will decide not the AFL..... :shh
The Government basically gave it the go ahead this morning....
Yep.
The onus is now squarely on the AFL to make a call on Round 1, according to Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison.
“Whether it is the AFL or NRL, that is a decision for them to make in accordance with the rules that have been established,” Mr Morrison said.
“They need to make their own decisions on how they manage that, we will focus on our responsibilities as Prime Minister’s, chief ministers and Premiers, and the commissioners of the NRL and the AFL can make their decisions on what they believe is best for their game.
“But they must comply, obviously – which they will, with the health rules and guidelines that are being established.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-coronavirus-news-covid19-live-updates-will-round-1-be-postponed-mass-gatherings-ban-western-australia-travel-ban/news-story/00149492a0c75b9d02a9b522e1a6c277
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1.45PM — AFL COMMISSION MEET TO DETERMINE SEASON
Tom Morris reports ...
A Wednesday afternoon AFL Commission meeting will determine whether Round 1 goes ahead or not.
League heavyweights are currently in discussions at AFL headquarters.
The AFL Commission consists of chairman Richard Goyder, Gillon McLachlan, Travis Auld, Jason Ball, Paul Bassat, Robin Bishop, Professor Helen Milroy, Andrew Newbold, Gab Trainor, Simone Wilkie and Kim Williams.
An outcome is expected before the close of business.
Players, managers and broadcasters are all in the dark, but clubs have been told to prepare to play unless they are told otherwise.
1.30PM — PLAYERS PREPARING TO PLAY
Richmond players have been told the 2020 AFL season will begin on Thursday night.
However the Blues have yet to be told if they are playing, creating more uncertainty around Thursday night’s season opener.
Foxfooty.com.au understands both Tigers players and coaches are preparing to face Carlton at an empty MCG.
Earlier, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said if the game went ahead, he expected the teams to play 16-and-a-half quarters plus time on from Thursday night.
Hardwick said every Richmond player would be available for selection, except veteran Bachar Houli (minor calf injury). Young ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones is “seriously in the mix”.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-coronavirus-news-covid19-live-updates-will-round-1-be-postponed-mass-gatherings-ban-western-australia-travel-ban/news-story/00149492a0c75b9d02a9b522e1a6c277
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Government will decide not the AFL..... :shh
The Government basically gave it the go ahead this morning....
Yes that's this morning ...match is still over 24 hours away which might as well be a week under the current circumstances.....:shh
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Snip!
Firstly, this Richmond Rant board is NOT a politics board. Leave the political commentary for the politics threads on the General Discussion board.
Secondly, cut out the namecalling and insults >:(.
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Anyway, back to the footy discussion:
1. All 18 clubs have told the AFL they want to play on.
2. The AFL is expected to have a presser before or around 5pm to announce what is happening.
Ch 7 saying the AFL is worried about the image of the game (re: playing in empty stadiums).
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Can I add my 10c worth
Insults that include using any word and then adding "tard" or "tards" to the end of it is offensive to the majoirty and totally unacceptable
It is clear what the meaning of the insult is trying to achieve.
Cut it out or we will be handing out penalties under the 3 strikes policy.
This is how out of hand this behaviour has become >:(
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After 5pm and still waiting.
Given how quickly this coronavirus crisis is changing from day-to-day, the AFL can't really be definite about things until this time tomorrow. Normally, if they were holding off this long then it would be a sign it wasn't going ahead but this is a different situation.
There was a (false) rumour going around today about the AFL was waiting for Higgo's test results to come back but the RFC has said that rumour was rubbish.
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I won't believe it's going ahead until after the first bounce.. surely the AFL also need to consider if they'll be able to complete the entire round...things could easily change again anytime from Friday to Sunday... :shh
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Phone hook up between AFL head honchos and club CEOs about to start. That's what's been the hold up according to SEN.
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Tony Jones on Ch 9 news saying a decision will be made some time tonight (even as late as midnight).
Eddie said the legal issues were very complex and things were changing from hour to hour at the meeting today. Not related to the players' salary cut according to Eddie.
Mark Stevens on Ch 7 said both sets of players at Richmond and Carlton still don't know whether they are playing tomorrow night.
Stevens was backing the game would go on rather than not while the other Ch 9 reporter was predicting it wouldn't. So the media don't know anything either.
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Gill just said it's ON!
So our premiership defence starts tomorrow night.
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:jump :dancing :wavetowel :newyear :spudnikbackflip :highclap :woohoo :gotigers
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AFL season to begin on Thursday night
Jake Niall, Michael Gleeson, Sam McClure
The Age
18 March 2020 8pm
The AFL has decided that the season will go ahead, as it had proposed last week, with Richmond and Carlton to begin the season in an empty MCG.
The AFL made the momentous decision - one of the biggest in the game's history - to continue their reduced 17-game season on Wednesday after much deliberation and consultation with clubs and the federal government, which had earlier announced a ban on gatherings of more than 100 people indoors, but still allowed gatherings of less than 500 outside.
Round one will go ahead as scheduled this weekend.
“The first four [rounds] will stay the same," AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said.
“It’s going to be day by day. If we can accelerate we will."
"It's going to be a long year. It's going to be a long journey in what is an unprecedented time.
"We can't lock ourselves in our house."
He said he was comfortable Marvel Stadium would fit the protocols for indoor gatherings because of having people in different rooms.
McLachlan acknowledged that the entire AFL season could be played behind closed doors. "It feels like a possibility," he said.
He said the league knows it will need to stop at some point during the season and the year ahead will be a long journey.
After a day of anticipation, the AFL finally announced it will play the whole of round one as planned - the Bulldogs hosting Collingwood on Friday night at Marvel Stadium in the second game - without crowds in any match, but the league has said it will shut down the competition if a player tests positive to the coronavirus and there is an expectation that the games will be called off at some stage.
The AFL fixture though is set to be revised with games compressed and shorter breaks between matches. Games will have quarters that are only 16 minutes plus time-on, but with the same number of interchange rotations and players on the bench.
The AFL's call makes it one of the few sporting bodies to continue playing games, with major international and local sports largely shutting down, though their major rival, the NRL, is also set to play. Local football leagues have almost uniformly ceased playing. The AFL is sure to receive a backlash from some quarters for playing on, but the clubs and players were strongly of the view that they should play this weekend.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-season-to-begin-on-thursday-night-20200318-p54b7l.html
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The AFL website is tipping us by around 4 goals.
Match preview: Richmond v Carlton
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
19 March 2020
Where and when: MCG, Thursday March 19, 7.25pm AEDT
Last time they met: MCG, round 21, 2019: Richmond 11.7 (73) defeated Carlton 6.9 (45)
What it means for Richmond: A win – and a big one – will declare that the strong force that stormed to last year's premiership is just as motivated and gunning for another.
What it means for Carlton: It would be a massive statement to upend the premiers in the season-opener, especially given it hasn't won the round one clash since 2012.
The stat: Will Dustin Martin get off the chain? In the last three season-openers, he's cleared 30 disposals and been an influence, especially in 2017 when he booted four goals as well.
The match-up: Trent Cotchin v Patrick Cripps
They starred in last year's opening round, so we're looking forward to seeing the competition's No.43-ranked midfielder from 2019 (Cotchin) versus the No.6 overall (Cripps).
In the spotlight: Jack Martin
He had to go the long way around to get to the Blues from Gold Coast, and he'll be keen to show he was worth all the trouble when he runs out on the big (fan-less) stage.
Big call: Marlion Pickett to kick the game's first goal (and four for the night), starting his season on the same fairytale note he ended his 2019 campaign on.
Prediction: Tigers by 23 points
https://www.afl.com.au/news/385892/match-preview-richmond-v-carlton
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Now that it is going ahead I'm pumped that footy and especially the Tiges are back playing but it's going to be a weird game to watch with no crowd atmosphere in a 100k capacity stadium. It won't surprise me that people especially neutrals will whinge tomorrow that the game was flat.
ps. It would be hilarious if the AFL now fixtures us to play at the MCG for all 17 games plus finals to avoid non-necessary plane flights. Opposition supporters would go into full on meltdown :lol.
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Every club’s Round 1 burning question
March 19, 2020
Sarah Olle and David Zita
FOX SPORTS
RICHMOND v CARLTON
Thursday 19 March, 7.25pm at the MCG
How to watch on Fox Footy: Channel 504 from 6.30pm, hosted by Eddie McGuire with Garry Lyon, Jonathan Brown, Nick Riewoldt, Kelli Underwood, Dermott Brereton and Jon Ralph with news
Richmond’s burning question: Does the hunger still burn?
It was a near-formality the Tigers would go back-to-back in 2018 after a dominant run in the home-and-away season, before Mason Cox broke yellow-and-black hearts. The Tiger army regrouped and found vindication in 2019, overcoming the loss of Alex Rance and a spate of early-season injuries. With a prestigious place in footy history already reserved for these triumphant Tigers, can they maintain the rage that has fuelled their manic attack on the footy and their opponents throughout their successful premiership campaigns? Since the start of the 21st century, only two teams have won at least two premierships back-to-back, with the Brisbane Lions and Hawthorn arguably two of the greatest dynasties in this sport’s history … can the Tigers join them?
Carlton’s burning question: How will the Blues kick a winning score?
With Charlie Curnow ruled out indefinitely, Harry McKay joining him on the sidelines, and Eddie Betts the latest to sustain injury, there are serious concerns over scoring power at the Blues. Levi Casboult reinvented himself as a defender towards the back end of last season, and even though Mitch McGovern cuts a leaner figure than last year, questions remain over his consistency. New recruit Jack Martin may have to bear more of the load than he signed up for, and Patrick Cripps may have to spend more time forward as the Blues try and find their scoring panacea.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-round-1-teams-tips-preview-every-clubs-burning-question-analysis-the-blowtorch/news-story/de4882e35bc7e679d5fed7b8543d79c0
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‘We are the Tiger Army’: Special tribute to locked-out MCG fans
March 19, 2020 4:12pm
by David Zita
FOX SPORTS
More than 85,000 fans packed the MCG last year to watch Richmond take on Carlton to kick off the AFL season.
Tonight will occupy a peculiar place in the annals of footy history, with deserted stands the backdrop to one of the most anticipated games of the AFL season.
Still, the Richmond Football Club are determined to have the yellow-and-black army represented in one way or another, and have made a symbolic gesture to their nearly 100,000 members ahead of tonight’s season opener.
A giant banner will be placed over the seating bay usually occupied by Richmond cheer squad members (the Punt Road-end goals) simply reading, “WE ARE THE TIGER ARMY”.
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The Richmond cheer squad section at the MCG, covered by a special club banner.Source: FOX SPORTS
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Another view of the Richmond banner in the cheer squad section.Source: FOX SPORTS
The club says it’s “a simple symbolic gesture that the Tiger Army are always behind the team, no matter where they are.”
It is one unique gesture that will occupy a season like no other.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/we-are-the-tiger-army-richmonds-special-tribute-to-absent-mcg-fans-for-season-opener/news-story/bf7135e37dbb9a3b6b24cec1d200db39
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No late changes to either side according to the AFL website.
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1240543382671200256
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https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202020%20Round%2001%20-%20Richmond%20v%20Carlton&image_id=743107
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No late changes. So Nank is playing.
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Richmond: Daniel Rioli, Toby Nankervis, Sydney Stack, Marlion Pickett
Carlton: Kade Simpson, Zac Fisher, Michael Gibbons, Will Setterfield
https://www.afl.com.au/news/386613/final-teams-richmond-v-carlton
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Carlton out first.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ;D
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Out we come :veryhappy :highclap :wavetowel :bow :thumbsup :gotigers.
:invasion
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50 to sheds. 45 out. Goal!
6 - 0
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Pickett to lambert tn george goal.
12 -0
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Sheds lace to lynch 40 out. Goal!
18 - 0
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Lambert 50. Goal!
24 - 0
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Baker good contest at HF. Jack mark and goal
blues get it back
30 - 6
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Jack got another
30-0
Now Blues get one, poor by Broad soft free
30- 6
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Stack lace out to jack. Misses
31
6
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Another soft free given away this time by Astbury
Goal blues
32-13
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Cotch miss on the run from 45.
up the other end free & goal to carlton
32
13
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Great movement and hands by Bolton. Jack on fire, hot hands tonight. Gave it off to George, should have kicked it IMO.
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Bolts finds jack off to george. Goal
38
13
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Ruck Free to soldo. Caddy to bolts. Goal!
44
13
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1/4 time
Richmond 7.2-44
Carlton 2.1-13
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It is kinda weird - no fans, no cheering, no banners & no opposition! :gotigers
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We are going to flog these jabronies
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Prestia 7
lambert 6
cotch 6
Jack on fire. 2 goals and gave one off.
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Free and goal to them
44
19
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Blues get the 1st of the 2nd
Another bad free given away by Astbury on Silvagni of all players >:(
44 - 19
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We've switched off.
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Lynch banana miss
45
22
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Lynch free 70 out. Goes long. Rioli out the back goal
51
22
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We seem to have switched on again
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Clever tap dusty. Bolts classy goal
57
22
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How about that blind handpass by dusty to jack! Goal
and dusty gets one himself
69
23
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Half-time
Richmond 11.3-69
Carlton 3.5-23
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Nank having a shocker.
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A class above. We were asleep for most of that quarter yet still kicked 4 goals to 1.
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Martin just taking the pee...Bolton looks set for a big year.... :shh
Astbury & Nank = W.O.G closely followed by Shortsteps McTurnover who's already shyte himself at least three times... Lynch still looks out if touch...:shh :shh
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Killing em
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Jack Martin looks a good pickup for the Blue baggers.I never really paid much attention to him before. What do people think?
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All their goals from frees ... Grrr!
69
29
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He's been their best, tdy.
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Geez I’d love us to get half the soft free kick that get paid against us.
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Weiterimg has done really well against Lynch too.
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Another really poor start this qtr
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Paddy Dow can't kick thank goodness.
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Lol george gets his 3rd
75
31
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Rioli no free but still snaps the goal
81
31
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Someone nobble Jack Martin could they, just a Mathewsesque king hit behind play please.
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Floss off. Concussion?
last 2 goals to them
81
43
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This is painful, these umpires are blowing the pea out of the whistle.
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That was a nothing kick by sheds.
cotch snap miss
82
43
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That was awful by Cotchin. To casual
Getting annoyed watching this
And got to feel for the Suns, Jack Martin never showed this much effort for them in the last 2 years
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Does Casboilt have the biggest ball drop in the history of football? Anybody know anyone else who's dropped it further? I've seen little league kids chuck it in the air and swing their hoof at it more accurately than him.
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Making jack martin bog
82
49
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That was awful by Cotchin. To casual
Getting annoyed watching this
And got to feel for the Suns, Jack Martin never showed this much effort for them in the last 2 years
Very frustrating
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Prestia gets one back
88 - 49
Need to stay switched on.
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Nice finish prestia
88
49
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You gotta wonder about the sun's culture if Martin moves to Carlscum and pulls the finger out.
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Thanks for the point blues
89
49
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Astbury dishes up another pathetic gift to the Blues, this time a 50
He's been poor tonight
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Put the whistle away for crying out loud!
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Bolton still thinks he's Martin. He's talented but not that good.
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Really disappointing quarter
89 - 55
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What are we doing, too busy fighting.
Just play and we'd be up by 70 points. Anything less than a 50 point win is disappointing.
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3/4 time
Richmond 7.2 11.3 14.5-89
Carlton 2.1 3.5 8.7-55
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Yup, really wanted this to blow out to 70-100 points but crappy cue in the rack quarters like that just drive me crazy
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Hardwick should give them a bit of a spray. Got sucked into some off the ball stuff and the umps can't blow quick enough. Every season we threaten to blow the scum out of the water and just take the foot off the gas trying too much globetrotter moves. How many goals for them have come from free kicks?
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Just no one get reported
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Whistle happy umps causing players frustration and niggle. Then the umps pay more frees for the niggle.
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Floss out 4 rest of the game.
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Another goal from a free to them :rolleyes
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Not sure why we are playing Nank
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WTF Bolton you idiot!
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Disgraceful by Bolton
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We’re in trouble
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I'm ready to throw the remote
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We've been pathetic
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What was that kick bolts?
slack footy
89
68
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Half their goals from frees
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They get another compliments of Boltons stupidity
21 points
89 - 68
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Wake up
This is embarassing
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stuff!!
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We’re in trouble
Big trouble
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We are C O O K E D!!!
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Really poor. Tackling poor
89
74
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Picket thank god
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Dusty rolling poster.
pickett class pass to bolts. Goal
96
74
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Gee we needed that
Bolton partly makes up for his pathetic effort before
96 - 74
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Hey we got a free
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Nice tackle and then a throw, play on!!!
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Doh Soldo bad luck
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Graham and Nank are not fit. Poor choices. Maybe a decision based on the lack of VFL tho.
Should have played CCJ and maybe one of Ross, RCD...
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One handed handpass curnow = no free :rolleyes
soldo poster.
97
74
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Gee were in 3rd gear ATM
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I'm still frustrated
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Goddam
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Goal to them
98
80
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Too far for Jack
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You know what's worse than your team falling asleep?
Seeing dud players like Silvagni get soft goals because no one bothers to tackle
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Prestia to jack 45 out then kicks it over dusty's head ootf.
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Hey a second free. We are lucky
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Our ruck work is atrocious. Zero advantage after Kruezer went down.
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All it deserved.he was off
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50 and point to them
98
81
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Riloi you beauty!
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Rioli just blows them away
104
81
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We win
But....
Struth it is frustrating
50 points up to only win by 24 is annoying
It's a win
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Bolts misses a sitter on the run.
siren. Won by 24 pts.
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Lots to work on, looked tired after half time, maybe the later pre season will take a while to get over. We certainly need to pace ourselves assuming the season is played out in its entirety.
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Final score
Richmond 7.2 11.3 14.5 16.9-105
Carlton 2.1 3.5 8.7 12.9-81
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Just another win. Plenty to work on which is good imo.
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Gee Cotch is a good bloke. Mentioning Kruesers missus and kid, you just know he has has dinner with them, probably had them round for a BBQ.
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Serve that shyte up against the Wobbles next week (or in July/whenever) and they'll flog us.... :shh
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Nank and Graham not match fit.
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We had 30 more tackles... I'm surprised by that, it looked very bruise free.
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Astbury worst on...directly cost us at least 4 goals..... :shh
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We had 30 more tackles... I'm surprised by that, it looked very bruise free.
..and missed about another 30 more... :shh
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6-7 from frees. Pathetic.
Did the job, blew them away then hit the cruise control.
We'll get the usual 'we pushed you to the end' spiel
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Astbury worst on...directly cost us at least 4 goals..... :shh
Agreed. He was awful.
Very patchy game from us but it’s hard to get up for the minnow clubs sometimes...
We just did enough in the end.
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Prestia 25
Dusty 24
Cotch 19
Goals: Bolton 3, Castagna 3, Rioli 3, Riewoldt 2, Prestia, Martin, Lambert, Edwards, Lynch.
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Just like round 1 last year. 5 goals, let them back in, chance to smack them missed.
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A wins a win which are more important than ever.
Our tackling was near non existent in the second half.
We need to remember we want to peak at seasons end not now. It’s important to ease our way and build as the season progresses honing the game plan.
We don’t even look fit yet which is fine as long as we win.
Good training drill
:gotigers
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Just like round 1 last year. 5 goals, let them back in, chance to smack them missed.
Was like most of our matches v them since the 2013 EF....piddly little 4-5 goal victories that really should've been 10-15 goal thumpings... >:(
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We really need the percentage though. I think we turned it on against Gold Coast and clawed our way back up but the team needs to remember percentage is crucial for a top 4 berth
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Lucky for us they were shortened quarters.... :shh
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Just like round 1 last year. 5 goals, let them back in, chance to smack them missed.
Was like most of our matches v them since the 2013 EF....piddly little 4-5 goal victories that really should've been 10-15 goal thumpings... >:(
Guess we’re in premiership form then :shh
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Just like round 1 last year. 5 goals, let them back in, chance to smack them missed.
Was like most of our matches v them since the 2013 EF....piddly little 4-5 goal victories that really should've been 10-15 goal thumpings... >:(
Guess we’re in premiership form then :shh
A Carlton fan of all people who called into SEN after the game mentioned this. The host was saying Carlton's second half comeback was a positive for Blues fans and the caller said "same old same old ... the game was a repeat of both Rich vs Carl matches last year". We crush their hopes but tormenting them with narrow wins against them ;D.
No doubt we're pacing ourselves so there isn't a repeat of 2018 when we fell away in form when it mattered. The game was pretty bruise free and our intensity was off after 1/4 time. We did what we had to do to win.
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Out of interest we're sitting 6th after round 1.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/live-scores/ladder
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A Carlton fan of all people who called into SEN after the game mentioned this. The host was saying Carlton's second half comeback was a positive for Blues fans and the caller said "same old same old ... the game was a repeat of both Rich vs Carl matches last year". We crush their hopes but tormenting them with narrow wins against them ;D.
No doubt we're pacing ourselves so there isn't a repeat of 2018 when we fell away in form when it mattered. The game was pretty bruise free and our intensity was off after 1/4 time. We did what we had to do to win.
Good, sounds like they're getting used to it.
In other news, obviously their main ruck has gone down for 16 weeks. Newman and McGovern looked like they got minor booboos too.
Business as usual. Carltank throwing their bodies on the line for the R1 grand final just to come up with another 'honourable loss' to the mighty Tiges who were basically treating it like a praccy match by playing two under done key players in Nank and Graham :D
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Every AFL club’s Round 1 graded
* March 23, 2020
* by Fox Sports
RICHMOND
A five-goal blitz to open the game was more than enough for the Tigers to make it 13 consecutive victories, but it wasn’t all smooth sailing for Damien Hardwick’s side. The premiers were 50 points up at one stage before collapsing and being seriously threatened by a Carlton side with very few forwards worth naming. When Nick Vlastuin was forced out of the game with a feared concussion, things didn’t look great in defence, and if it wasn’t for some brilliant bursts of play across the second and third quarters, this could’ve been a boilover. Yes, they still won by four goals, but this should’ve been bigger.
IN THE VOTES
The still-underrated Dion Prestia finished with a team-high 25 disposals while the ever-present Dustin Martin had 24, and both men kicked a goal. But it was the crafty forwards who were the difference on Thursday night, turning minimal chances into maximum scoreboard impact. Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli and Shai Bolton all finished with three goals.
ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT
As mentioned, the defence struggled once Nick Vlastuin went down, and they had no answers for Jack Martin in his four-goal third quarter. Tom Lynch was very quiet with just the one behind to his name, clearly losing his battle with Jacob Weitering.
GRADE
B
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/risers-sliders-and-question-marks-every-afl-clubs-round-1-graded/news-story/dedd9fb7d8a48dd5b042609ecca0199d?nk=33f7fd99cd8d6ace43bff0b7fbc10114-1584929240
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Coaches votes for Round 1:
9 Dion Prestia (RICH)
5 Jack Martin (CARL)
5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
4 Daniel Rioli (RICH)
4 Dustin Martin (RICH)
3 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/581310/three-tigers-feature-in-round-1-coaches-votes
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So one of Jack Martin or Cripps was given max votes by 1 coach and 0 by the other :huh
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Malthouse wants the round 1 results scrapped.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/coaching-legend-mick-malthouse-says-afl-should-scrap-round-1-points-start-again-when-play-eventually-resumes%2Fnews-story/c494a35f0de7f9642050d6dc4beb4efd
Despite Carlton losing to Richmond, Teague said the result should stand.
“We went out there to win and Richmond were too good on the day so I’m comfortable with them starting with four points and us with zero,” Teague said.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-live-blog-coronavirus-covid19-richmond-tigers-afl-premiership/news-story/5c6a55c80cc72054005501e927f36e20