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Title: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on February 20, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
The 2020 AFL draft will be the most compromised ever

February 20, 2020 12:48pm
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS


The majority of the top draft prospects this year are already tied to AFL clubs, which means they’ll have first dibs on the star prospects when the draft rolls around.

The obvious signs this looms as the most compromised draft ever came on AFL Grand Final day in 2019, which was also when the All-Stars Under 17 match was held.

In the original squads selected, 17 of the 48 players picked were already linked to an AFL club, either as father-son, next-generation academy (NGA) or northern academy prospects.

Ethan Baxter (Richmond) – Next-Generation Academy

Luke Edwards (Adelaide) – Father/Son
James Borlase (Adelaide) – Next-Generation Academy
Tariek Newchurch (Adelaide) — Next-Generation Academy

Blake Coleman (Brisbane Lions) – Northern Academy
Saxon Crozier (Brisbane Lions) – Northern Academy
Carter Michael (Brisbane Lions) – Northern Academy

Reef McInnes (Collingwood) – Next-Generation Academy

Cody Brand (Essendon) – Next-Generation Academy
Josh Eye (Essendon) — Next-Generation Academy

Joel Western (Fremantle) – Next-Generation Academy
Brandon Walker (Fremantle) – Next-Generation Academy

Alex Davies (Gold Coast Suns) – Northern Academy
Joel Jeffrey (Gold Coast Suns) – Linked to the club via NT
Brodie Lake (Gold Coast Suns) – Linked to the club via NT

Joshua Green (GWS Giants) – Next-Generation Academy

Connor Downie (Hawthorn) – Next-Generation Academy

Kobi George (Melbourne) – Next-Generation Academy
Deakyn Smith (Melbourne) – Next-Generation Academy

Taj Schofield (Port Adelaide) – Father/Son
Lachlan Jones (Port Adelaide) – Next-Generation Academy

Braeden Campbell (Sydney Swans) – Northern Academy
Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) – Northern Academy

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs) – Next-Generation Academy
Cody Raak (Western Bulldogs) – Next-Generation Academy

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-most-compromised-draft-ever-jamarra-uglehagan-western-bulldogs/news-story/4e6d785fed195ca0645d67229e8446c3

They've left out Maurice Jnr as a father-son for us.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on March 24, 2020, 02:17:31 AM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl-tonight/will-the-afl-draft-go-ahead!770166
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on March 26, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
Talk of this year's draft being abandoned and pushing the minimum draft age out to 19. Allows this year's kids to be the ones drafted in November 2021 as well as fitting in with the idea of smaller (35 player) lists for 2021.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on March 26, 2020, 07:13:13 PM
Seems a pretty obvious thing to do now....particularly as clubs are probably going to have to to trim their list sizes as well....should also abolish the minimum of players you have to draft and allow clubs to pass the draft altogether if they want (though I reckon every club will still take at least one kid anyway) .. at least for a couple of years until things get back to full normality.... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 26, 2020, 10:09:19 PM
When is MRJ eligible?
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on March 26, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
This year... next year if they make the suggested changes to the minimum draft age....:shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on March 27, 2020, 10:16:49 AM
Imho they will allow all clubs to take at least 1 player this year possibly two. It will be limited to father son and academy selections.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2020, 02:37:14 PM
Some whispers the Academies could be dumped as a cost cutting measure.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2020, 03:24:54 AM
THE 2020 DRAFT, TRADE PERIOD?

With no certainty around when or if the season gets underway that is impossible to answer. The AFL will want a trade period as it is a commercially profitable period with high consumer interest, however the fluidity around contracts and player payments will add complexity. The timing of the national draft and how it is conducted has hardly been considered.

WHAT WILL DISAPPEAR?

Academies will be the biggest area in administrators’ sights while non-core activity such as the international rules, the AFL draft combine, study tours, community camps and other community projects, business-class travel for interstate trips and Marsh Series matches in far-flung locations could also come under review.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/what-happens-when-the-lights-go-back-on-20200327-p54emo.html
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on March 28, 2020, 02:26:25 PM
Some whispers the Academies could be dumped as a cost cutting measure.

Not that fussed as long that also includes the northern academies... :shh
Title: Recruiters to fly blind at AFL national draft: McLachlan (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on March 29, 2020, 03:36:10 AM
Recruiters to fly blind at AFL national draft: McLachlan

Peter Ryan
The Age
29 March 2020


Recruiters and list managers have been stood down temporarily at all clubs and there is an expectation that their ranks will be thinner when the game resumes, with the reduction in the soft cap forcing clubs to find cost savings throughout football departments.

However, there are huge number of issues list management teams will need to work through with the 50 per cent pay cut agreed to by players - that sources confirmed is across the board - even if the season does resume one of the more certain components of the space.

Clubs are unsure whether a new collective bargaining will be negotiated that reduces total player payments, which was set to be $13,013,257 million per club in 2020 and rising two per cent per annum until the broadcasting agreement expired in 2022.

They are also uncertain as to how existing contracts might be treated as a result of the economic calamity hitting football and whether long-term contracts might be renegotiated.

They were furiously working this week to develop new strategies if list sizes are reduced.

Sources said that a future CBA would take into account the disproportionate impact the 50 per cent cut would have on players such as Carlton's Jack Martin, who was set to earn $1 million in 2020 in a heavily front-ended five year deal, although it was uncertain exactly how the discrepancies would be addressed. Players have already received five months of their year's earnings.

Added to that is the need to identify underage talent without seeing them play in 2020 as well as the complications that were expected to arise at this year's national draft with a high number of father-son prospects and next generation academy graduates in the pool.

One experienced club recruiter said they were well placed to assess the form of players eligible for the draft for the first time this season.

"It would be obviously be more difficult but the work we have done in 2019 sets us up," the recruiter said.

He also said if list sizes were reduced clubs with experienced players coming out of contract at the end of 2020 would be in a good position to quickly adapt and potentially grab players from other clubs who might be delisted.

McLachlan indicated there were no definitive plans around how future pathways would be structured but he hinted that he suspected clubs might look at drafting more state league prospects at the end of the season because their form was more predictable.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/recruiters-to-fly-blind-at-afl-national-draft-mclachlan-20200328-p54etx.html
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: taztiger4 on March 29, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
When is MRJ eligible?

this year
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: mightytiges on March 30, 2020, 02:41:54 AM
Hard to see them having a draft even if they wanted to do blindly when they don't have a completed ladder to determine the draft order.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on March 30, 2020, 01:52:38 PM
A lottery draft would work.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on March 30, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
I'd actually raise the minimum draft age to 20 and have no draft next year either...let them play in state leagues for two years where they'll also have to get jobs and live in the real world for a bit and hopefully learn skills for life after footy...also having the best kids playing should also create more interest, even if just a little bit, in the state leagues who are going to need all the help they can get  and it should sort far more wheat from chaff before they get to the AFL than the current system does anf hence they shouldn't require as many resources like all the development coaches that take up so much space in the soft cap of footy departments ...would also pee off compulsory list changes/draft picks or at least only make them compulsory every second year and even then cut the minimum to just one or two, especially with reduced list sizes... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2020, 04:42:38 PM
Reckon Rookie lists are a thing of the past now

that's the first cut to AFL lists
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on March 30, 2020, 10:42:46 PM
Kane Cornes on Footy Classified trying to keep himself in work looking to have a trade period in next 4 week's.

Most ridiculous suggestion of all time. 

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on March 31, 2020, 03:32:03 AM
No MRJ in this top 20 draftee rankings.

AFL Draft Power Rankings: The top 20 prospects for 2020

Chris Doerre
ESPN
31 March 2020


The 2020 AFL season has been postponed, as have all junior, state league and lower level competitions across the country.

Despite no live action to assess, ESPN.com.au draft expert Chris Doerre has revealed his first Power Rankings of the 2020 draft, having scrutinised the prospects' 2019 seasons closely.

All future draft columns will depend on when footy resumes.

1. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs Next Generation Academy)

Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 194cm, 79kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 1-10

Rationale: He is like Lance Franklin with hops. Ugle-Hagan is the most unstoppable inside-50 threat that I've seen at this age and stage - unstoppable when launching at the football aerially, timing his jumps to perfection, leaping high and protecting the ball drop in the air so he can't be spoiled. Scouting reports will simply state: 'you can't give him a run and jump at the football, or he's taking the mark.'

Strengths:

Leap, timing of leaps at the ball aerially, body control in the air, protects the drop zone so he can't be spoiled, agility, speed, aerial marking, speed to create separation on the lead, freakish one-touch and instinctive when the ball hits the deck, takes advantage of opposition defenders when isolated one-on-one, scoreboard impact

Weaknesses:

Kicking penetration, set shot reliability, prone to dropping marks, endurance, unclear versatility
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan competes during the yo-yo test at the 2020 NAB League Testing Day. Martin Keep/AFL Photos via Getty Images

2. Will Phillips

Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 179cm, 78kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 1-10

Rationale: Impact for Oakleigh during the 2019 finals series was comparable to last year's top-two selections Matthew Rowell and Noah Anderson.

Strengths:

First possession winner at stoppages, contested ball-winning, tackling, acceleration with ball in hand, endurance, production

Weaknesses:

Kicking consistency, unclear versatility, scoreboard impact

3. Finlay Macrae

Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 184cm, 79kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 1-10
Rationale: Younger brother of Western Bulldogs star Jack, Finlay is a mirror image of his older brother in the way he moves and plays. He also finds the ball just as easily.

Strengths:

Class and composure in traffic, evasion, agility, speed, distribution by hand, clean ball user, production, improving contested ball-winner, improving inside midfield craft

Weaknesses:

Unclear versatility, scoreboard impact

4. Elijah Hollands

Best position: Midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 188cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Murray Bushrangers
Projected draft range: 1-10
Rationale: If not for an ACL injury, would be in the No. 1 mix and may have been No. 2 on this board otherwise.

Strengths:

Damaging both forward and through the midfield, high impact per possession, makes quick and sound decisions with ball in hand, moves the ball on quickly, takes ground balls on the move at speed, agility, evasion, avoids tackles in traffic, takes on the game aggressively with his run, long-range goalkicker, kicking penetration and hurt factor, composure under pressure, contested ball-winning

Weaknesses:

Improvement not as rapid as many of his peers in 2019, unclear best position, nclear scope to be a full-time midfielder
Despite a season-ending ACL injury, Elijah Hollands is still one of this year's brightest draft prospects. Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

5. Tanner Bruhn

Best position: General forward/inside midfield
Height, weight: 182cm, 73kg
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Projected draft range: 1-20
Rationale: One of the standout talents in this draft but has had his injury setbacks, sitting out most of last year due to a knee injury and has already had surgery to his meniscus in the same knee this season.

Strengths:

Precise ball user of left foot, composure with ball in hand, evasion, agility, speed, versatility to play forward or through the midfield, wins first possession at stoppages, contested ball-winning, scoreboard impact

Weaknesses:

Durability, limited exposed form due to ACL

6. Reef McInnes (Collingwood Next Generation Academy)

Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 191cm, 83kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 1-20
Rationale: A potential tall, ball-winning midfielder with the scope to play forward. Upside among the highest in the pool.

Strengths:

Contested ball-winning. marking threat inside-50, scoreboard impact, versatility to play midfield, forward or defence, mobility, clean skills

Weaknesses:

Unclear best position, unproven as a full-time midfielder against good opposition
Reef McInnes of the Chargers runs with the ball during the NAB League Grand Final match between Eastern Ranges and Oakleigh Chargers. Daniel Pockett/AFL Photos/via Getty Images

7. Riley Thilthorpe

Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 199cm, 96kg
Recruited from: West Adelaide
Projected draft range: 1-10
Rationale: Freakishly quick key forward who hits the scoreboard in bunches.

Strengths:

Scoreboard impact. contested marking, clean at ground level, endurance, speed, agility, leap, X-factor, versatility to play key forward, ruck or as a high leading forward

Weaknesses:

Ruck craft, accumulation

8. Jackson Callow

Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 192cm, 88kg
Recruited from: Tasmania Devils
Projected draft range: 10-40
Rationale: A key forward with a deceptively hard-to-defend game - his strength and one-on-one marking blending in nicely with his agility, work at ground level and capability to turn opponents inside out.

Strengths:

Overhead marking, one-on-one marking, contested marking, body size and strength, reading of the ball in flight, keeps his feet in the contest, clean at ground level, agility, turns opponents inside out

Weaknesses:

Athleticism, unclear versatility
Jackson Callow of team Dal Santo tackles James Borlase of team Brown during the NAB League 2019 All Stars match. Darrian Traynor/AFL Photos via Getty Images

9. Kaine Baldwin

Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 192cm, 89kg
Recruited from: Glenelg
Projected draft range: 1-20
Rationale: Playing only one game in 2019 due to a ruptured ACL, Baldwin is one of the most exciting players in this year's draft. Dominant in the Under-16s, Baldwin has proven he is damaging close to goal and had planned to show he has the versatility to push up the ground more this year.

Strengths:

Contested marking, one-on-one marking, strength, aerial marking, high leaper, scoreboard impact, creates separation on the lead

Weaknesses:

Ground level craft, speed, agility, endurance, unclear midfield capabilities

10. Jack Ginnivan

Best position: General forward/inside midfield
Height, weight: 180cm, 73kg
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Projected draft range: 3-25
Rationale: A smart forward who is just as effective through the midfield.

Strengths:

Precision ball user, kicks placed out in front of targets to lead onto, makes things happen with ball in hand, draws high frees, clean and dangerous at ground level, football smarts, dangerous around goal, forward pressure, contested ball-winning, endurance, work rate, agility, versatility to impact games either as a forward or midfielder

Weaknesses:

Size, capable but not threatening mark inside 50m

11. Sam Berry

Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 180cm, 82kg
Recruited from: Gippsland Power
Projected draft range: 5-40
Rationale: Exciting midfielder with enviable combination of ball-winning, clean skills and speed.

Strengths:

Contested ball-winning, first-possession winner at stoppages, acceleration with ball in hand out of stoppages, speed, kick placement on left foot out in front of targets to lead onto, composure with ball in hand, versatility to play midfield, defence or forward, tackling

Weaknesses:

Endurance, contested marking

12. Wil Parker

Best position: General defence
Height, weight: 180cm, 76kg
Recruited from: Eastern Ranges
Projected draft range: 5-35
Rationale: One of this draft's premier intercept marking defenders and one who scouts had hoped to see tried through the midfield this season.

Strengths:

Intercept marking, reading of the ball in flight, attacks the ball aerially, one-on-one strength, one-touch at ground level, evasive, classy with ball in hand, provides meaningful drive by foot from defence, precise kick placement out in front of targets to lead onto, wins a high proportion of ball in contested situations by position, scope to push through the midfield

Weaknesses:

Unclear versatility, endurance

13. Archie Perkins

Best position: General forward/inside midfield
Height, weight: 185cm, 87kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 3-30
Rationale: Strong medium marking forward who plays a high-impact-per-possession style of game but at this stage lacks the endurance to go through the midfield and can lacks the consistency of performance of those rated ahead of him.

Strengths:

Strength, one-on-one marking, aerial marking, impact per possession, contested ball-winning, takes on the game, line breaker, speed, damaging by foot, composure with ball in hand, capacity to impact games as a forward or midfielder

Weaknesses:

Endurance, consistency

14. Zane Trew

Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 184cm, 81kg
Recruited from: Swan Districts
Projected draft range: 3-30
Rationale: Prolific ball-winner and tackler who managed 40 disposals and 10 tackles in the WAFL Colts the last time he played. He missed most of 2019 due to a shoulder injury so has had less 2019 exposure than most of his peers.

Strengths:

Production, stoppage specialist, contested ball-winning, aggressive tackler, classy ball user, composure in traffic and with ball in hand, vision, precise ball user by hand and foot

Weaknesses:

Limited exposure due to shoulder surgery in 2019, speed, endurance

15. Nathan O'Driscoll

Best position: Inside midfield/general defence
Height, weight: 182cm, 75kg
Recruited from: Perth
Projected draft range: 5-35
Rationale: One of the best hard ball-winners in the draft.

Strengths:

Aggressive attack on the ball, tackles to hurt, versatility to play midfield or defence, one-on-one strength, intercept marking, run and carry, reliable ball user

Weaknesses:

Intercept marking, contested marking, speed, endurance

16. Sam Collins

Best position: General defence
Height, weight: 185cm, 75kg
Recruited from: Tasmania Devils
Projected draft range: 5-35
Rationale: One of this year's premier intercept marking defenders.

Strengths:

Intercept marking, reading of the ball in flight, one-on-one marking, attacks the ball aerially for marks, negatives the influence of his opponents, leap, clean at ground level, reliable kick, versatility to play defence or midfield

Weaknesses:

Low hurt factor, needs to generate more meaningful drive from defence

17. Denver Grainger-Barras

Best position: General defence/key defence
Height, weight: 192cm, 77kg
Recruited from: Swan Districts
Projected draft range: 3-15
Rationale: One of this year's premier defenders, Grainger-Barras is one of the best as both a shutdown defender and interceptor.

Strengths:

Intercept marking, reading of the ball in flight, one-on-one defence, shuts down opposition forwards, clean ball user, athleticism

Weaknesses:

Endurance, unclear whether future is as a key or general defender, pProduction

18. Alex Davies (Gold Coast Academy)

Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 189cm, 76kg
Recruited from: Gold Coast Academy
Projected draft range: 5-30
Rationale: One of this year's premier tall inside ball-winners.

Strengths:

Contested ball-winning, distribution by hand, evasion, movement through traffic, clean at ground level

Weaknesses:

Endurance, prone to rushing kicks rather than assessing and spotting options

19. Braeden Campbell (Sydney Academy)

Best position: General forward/inside midfield
Height, weight: 178cm, 71kg
Recruited from: Sydney Academy
Projected draft range: 10-30
Rationale: Awarded player of the match in the Under-17 All Star match.

Strengths:

Contested ball-winning, aggressive tackler, damaging left foot kick, acceleration, run and carry with ball in hand, scoreboard impact, best-on-ground in the 2019 AFL Grand Final curtain raiser., versatility to impact games forward or midfield

Weaknesses:

Height, contested marking

20. Errol Gulden (Sydney Academy)

Best position: General forward/outside midfield
Height, weight: 172cm, 68kg
Recruited from: Sydney Academy
Projected draft range: 10-30
Rationale: One of the best performed and most productive in this pool, but at his height and size is unlikely to have as much upside as many of his more highly touted peers.

Strengths:

One-touch pickups, high production, ready-to-go, one-touch at ground level, speed, agility, reads the play, gets to the right spot, natural crumber, finishing around goal, scoreboard impact, class, precision kicking, kicking out in front of inside 50m targets to lead onto

Weaknesses:

Height, size, limited scope to develop as an inside midfielder, unclear upside

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28968733/afl-draft-power-rankings-top-20-prospects-2020
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 05, 2020, 02:14:40 PM
The prospect of clubs playing games every four to six days once the 2020 season resumes means there is talk of a mini-draft to help teams add players to negotiate those periods.

However, many list bosses prefer a US-style waiver system, as AFL.com.au revealed in March, where reverse ladder order would be used.

If that system came in, the club highest on the waiver order that bids on an eligible player would win his services.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/390818/how-will-the-afl-look-with-smaller-list-sizes-
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 13, 2020, 03:30:24 AM
FOOTY GREATS TO RETURN UNDER FORMER STAR’S RADICAL IDEA

Former AFL live wire Nathan Brown has suggested a ‘recently exited players draft’ that would allow some of the game’s greats to return to an AFL list one last time.

Brown believes the extended window before footy returns, along with what will be a shortened season, gives some former players the perfect opportunity to stage an AFL comeback.

Brown’s revealed his hypothetical list on Channel Nine.
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d878e6bbb3ebe4f76f16fbe6024babdc)
Nathan Brown’s radical draft idea would see several big names make a return to an AFL list.Source: Channel 9

Pressed on Brendan Fevola’s ability to play football at the elite level again, Brown suggested the extended break from the game would give him ample time to prepare.

“Brendan Fevola has played football since he retired, yes he’s a bit overweight at the moment but he can still play footy… I think if he got fit enough he could still play AFL football, it’s a stretch but we’re talking about an AFL season like no other,” he said.

“He’s got four months now to get fit, maybe even five months.”

Sources: Ch 9, Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-live-blog-coronavirus-covid19-richmond-tigers-afl-premiership/news-story/5c6a55c80cc72054005501e927f36e20)
Title: Two years of real life, then footy: Hardwick calls for draft rule change (Fox)
Post by: one-eyed on April 15, 2020, 02:22:42 AM
Two years of real life, then footy: Hardwick calls for dramatic draft rule change

April 15, 2020
by Max Laughton with AAP
FOX SPORTS


Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge said earlier on Tuesday raising the age from 18 was an “absolute no-brainer” decision.

But Hardwick went even further, arguing it would do draftees a world of good to spend two years out of high school before entering the AFL system.

“For the benefits of the kids coming through in future, I think I could probably go a little bit higher (than 19) … One year out of school is OK but two years would be even better for mine,” Hardwick said on Fox Footy Live.

“I understand it’s going to be detrimental to the kids that are possibly drafted now.

“What I do love about lifting the draft age is the players will have some sort of education or some sort of training behind them.

“The AFL career only averages out to about three or four years for most so at least they can fall back onto something.”

The Tigers coach argued players who were coming straight out of high school weren’t being given the right preparation for life outside the ‘AFL bubble’ if they were to flame out.

“We’re drafting kids at 18 years of age and they haven’t even experienced life really,” he said.

“The more we can give the experience about what it is to live a normal life and not in an AFL bubble is going to be very important for them for the back-end of their career.

“The life experience is so important.”

Football’s coronavirus shutdown, which has put all senior and underage competitions on hold, has created a unique opportunity to lift the draft age to 19 should the AFL so desire.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-damien-hardwick-says-raise-draft-age-to-20-afl-draft-fox-footy-live-coronavirus-shutdown/news-story/714ca2bb605a94891ee1c850c9c89274
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 15, 2020, 02:25:57 PM
The top 25 AFL draft prospects for 2020

Clubs might get little chance to see this year’s draft crop in action, but that doesn't mean there is a lack of power!

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/riley-thilthorpe-luke-edwards-and-more-who-are-the-afls-and-south-australias-best-draft-prospects-in-2020/news-story/4a0efce942c48fcfd81b3efde89b203a
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on April 15, 2020, 06:28:26 PM
Hardwick's right....but the  AFL will do nothing because - among other equally stupid reasons- the draft will provide them and the all-powerful broadcasters badly needed "content" this year...the next best compromise is to not make club participation in the draft mandatory this year & next or at least reduce the minimum to just one player...would be quite ludicrous IMO is clubs have to cut - if all the media speculation is to be believed- between 9-14 players likely including kids they only just drafted in thr last year or two and have to cut another three on top of that in order to bring in more kids or meet some stupid draft quota...   :shh

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 15, 2020, 08:21:38 PM
Hardwick's right....but the  AFL will do nothing because - among other equally stupid reasons- the draft will provide them and the all-powerful broadcasters badly needed "content" this year...the next best compromise is to not make club participation in the draft mandatory this year & next or at least reduce the minimum to just one player...would be quite ludicrous IMO is clubs have to cut - if all the media speculation is to be believed- between 9-14 players likely including kids they only just drafted in thr last year or two and have to cut another three on top of that in order to bring in more kids or meet some stupid draft quota...   :shh

 :clapping

That is the reason why lists should only be reduced to 42-44, if they have to be

Personal view is they shouldn't be but the 19th team on the comp always gets what it wants

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2020, 12:58:13 AM
They mentioned in passing on the news last night that the draft is expected to go ahead this year.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on April 16, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
For me there should be no draft but each club should be given a maximum of 3 x form 4s so each club can sign 3 kids outside of the draft system. This would allow our clubs recruiters to get 3 of the best kids available. Bring back the form 4s.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on April 16, 2020, 12:41:23 PM
Scrap the draft and bring back zones.... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2020, 05:05:24 PM
Gil said oday that there will be a draft this year and that there will be no change to the age limit.

No change to list sizes this year either.
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ON WHAT THE DRAFT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS YEAR …

"I'm very confident that the draft will go ahead. Clearly, there's a possibility that it will be in a different form. But we will need a draft. The draft age is being discussed by working groups. I know there are various views on all of that, but one thing I've heard in the last 24 hours from various people around football – and, again, this is trying to help without being definitive – is that the best 18-year-old kids are walking straight into very good teams and are having an impact straightaway. People are looking for the whole draft class to be more mature, but they certainly don't want to have less access to the best 18-year-olds. Hopefully that gives you a level of direction."

ON WHETHER CUTS TO LISTS WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR …

"No, there's certainly not anything I'm aware of where it would happen this year. For reasons that are obvious, all aspects of football are under review going forward. List sizes have come up, but I have no information that it would mean it would have any impact this year."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/391467/gill-on-longer-seasons-the-draft-and-when-footy-could-return
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2020, 05:57:09 PM
This year's AFL Draft might be held in 2021, with the League considering pushing the event back to January.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/391832/the-draft-in-january-rookie-draft-dumped-afl-considers-options
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2020, 03:08:00 PM
AFL draft state of play: Why clubs who’ll own the first round can breathe sigh of relief

April 23, 2020 12:51pm
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS


But at least club’s can breathe a sigh of relief, after AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan confirmed there will be a draft in some shape or form.

With final year school exams potentially pushed back around the nation due to the coronavirus crisis, it could well be the early stages of 2021 before any names are called out.

“I’m very confident that the draft will go ahead. Clearly, there’s a possibility that it will be in a different form. But we will need a draft,” McLachlan said.

“The draft age is being discussed by working groups. I know there are various views on all of that, but one thing I’ve heard in the last 24 hours from various people around football – and, again, this is trying to help without being definitive – is that the best 18-year-old kids are walking straight into very good teams and are having an impact straightaway.

“People are looking for the whole draft class to be more mature, but they certainly don’t want to have less access to the best 18-year-olds. Hopefully that gives you a level of direction.”

With uncertainty in recent weeks, some AFL clubs certainly would’ve been fearing the worst, following what they would’ve described as shrewd moves in last year’s trade and draft period.

Most recruiters around the country have been stood down until the AFL begins again, with underage fixtures needing to be revamped.

It might well be a draft with just one or two rounds.

YOUR CLUB’S PICKS – AND WHO THEY COULD TARGET

Richmond: 1x first-round pick, 1x second-round pick, 1x third-round pick, 1x fourth-round pick, 1x fifth-round pick

When you’ve won two premierships in three years, there isn’t a pressing need for the club at the draft. But there will be plenty of hype around small forward Maurice Rioli Jnr, who is a father-son prospect for the club. While very raw, the lively prospect might push himself up the draft board with a good season. Nevertheless, Richmond won’t need to use its top pick on the prospect.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-afl-draft-2020-afl-draft-top-prospects-draft-order-geelong-north-melbourne/news-story/be1c9373cdef2c24790960f0af72fbbf
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2020, 02:21:56 PM
A number of reports in the week leading up to the NFL Draft had suggested franchises would consider 'lesser' offers involving future picks on draft night, essentially trading better capital in this year's draft for more surety in the next.

Ultimately, NFL franchises largely held firm with 2020 picks across Friday, Saturday and Sunday's seven-round draft. However, would they have done so if there hadn't been a college football season precede it?

Thinking among clubs back home is perhaps not. It's why planning measures among AFL recruiters are already being drafted and tentatively thought about.

It has led to AFL clubs weighing up whether the risk of trading down into future drafts holds more value than staying put with better picks this year. That is due to clubs selecting prospects with less evidence of player improvement this season.

It has already reached the point where clubs are identifying rival teams who could potentially be looking to move between 2020 and 2021 drafts depending on their list positions.

One recruiter contacted by AFL.com.au mentioned teams in the premiership window potentially trying to profit from the situation by trading out of this year's draft for more capital next season.

Another noted that younger teams could also benefit, should they back in their recruiting staff in an otherwise uncertain draft year, by trading into this year's pool and getting more value.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/392072/why-afl-recruiters-eagerly-watched-the-nfl-draft
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2020, 02:32:48 PM
The draft age is set to remain at 18, but opening the competition to 19-year-olds would allow clubs to draft out of two age groups.

The talent panel includes senior coaches Alastair Clarkson (Hawthorn), Chris Fagan (Brisbane) and Luke Beveridge (Western Bulldogs), Brisbane chief executive Greg Swann and the AFL's Andrew Dillon and Tristan Salter.

A fourth coach – Richmond's two-time premiership leader Damien Hardwick – also provided his views within a meeting last week having been sought out.

Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/432408/eastern-seaboard-second-tier-comp-on-radar-concerns-for-neafl)
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2020, 07:27:09 PM
Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news tonight said 'lock in' a December draft.

He also said there may be 10 NAB League games this year and a mini-U18 Championship. So recruiters will at least get to see this year's U18 crop play a few games.
Title: Hardwick added to AFL's pathway task force (Fox)
Post by: one-eyed on May 07, 2020, 07:15:58 PM
Dual Richmond premiership coach Damien Hardwick has been added to the AFL's pathway task force, designed to help reshape football after COVID-19.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-afl-2020-afl-coronavirus-plans-damien-hardwick-afl-coronavirus-afl-covid19-afl-return-date-coronavirus/news-story/db9654eebf35fb285fce0746511df568
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2020, 03:51:30 PM
The mid-season draft is in danger of being scrapped after just one intake.

Clubs are yet to hear whether it will go ahead or not, but multiple high ranking club officials believe it is likely to be shelved in 2020 due to complications around Covid-19.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-covid19-coronavirus-updates-live-blog-afl-round-2-restart-eddie-betts-racism-darcy-parish-essendon/news-story/9bf4de733f1e8352180f0949e284fa21
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on June 15, 2020, 05:15:34 PM
Shouldn't be any drafts for the next two years ... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2020, 09:04:21 PM
Shouldn't be any drafts for the next two years ... :shh

I think the draft should go ahead BUT

Teams should have the option of whether they are part of it

Currently they have to use at least 3 picks

Think that should  be abolished for the next couple of years
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on June 15, 2020, 11:19:56 PM
Yes that at the very least....would be pretty absurd if they don't...was a stupid enough rule under normal circumstances as it was... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2020, 11:42:26 AM
Hopefully grassroots footy gets going again and these kids are given a chance to show their talents + get drafted.

Clubs should be allowed to spread their 6 mandatory picks over the next 2 years. Maybe take 1-2 this year and 4-5 next year.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2020, 02:53:46 PM
You cant delay the draft. The kids who are eligible should have a chance to be drafted. Maurie Jnr is on his way to Punt Road too.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on June 16, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
Can easily delay it for a year or two...AFL's not going anywhere...publicity & media content is the main reason they have it anyway and is the main reason they won't delay it...still no reason to enforce mandatory minimum participation though.... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on June 17, 2020, 08:01:01 AM
Strategically from our point of view of our list we need to bring in another 4 or 5 players. A couple of big names to take up the salary cap room Rance has left. I also belueve Nankervis could move on if he doesnt play all the time which he wont. Coleman-Jones will hopefully get his chance.

A big key position defender and a prime midfielder should be on the agenda and then 3 quality kids Maurie Jnr and 2 others to add to our youngster stocks.

To that end Stack, Ross, Callum-Jones, Balta and Dow could all come through with development this year. Another 3 to that list and we're set to for a much longer stint at the top than our rivals hope.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2020, 04:45:38 PM
THE AFL has settled on a six-round NAB League season after clubs were yesterday given further updates on the season.

The abbreviated male and female under-18 season will run from August to September, with the expectation a national championships tournament will take place in some form at the end of the AFL season.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/06/17/afl-settles-on-nab-league-season-structure-edmund/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Rampsation on June 27, 2020, 07:34:41 PM
We're going to have some decent picks this year. Anyobe know anything about the kids coming through.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2020, 07:44:26 PM
We're going to have some decent picks this year. Anyobe know anything about the kids coming through.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28968733/afl-draft-power-rankings-top-20-prospects-2020


We also have Maurice jnr as F/S of course.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2020, 02:15:12 PM
AFL recruiters descend on Sorrento for private camp

By Mitch Cleary
afl.com.au
2 July 2020


LIKELY No.1 pick Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and future father-son prospect Nick Daicos headline a host of draft hopefuls training before AFL recruiters in a private camp in Sorrento this week.

More than 20 players eligible for the 2020 and 2021 NAB AFL Drafts are taking part in the two-day program across Wednesday and Thursday run by management group Connors Sports.

The sessions are being coached by North Melbourne AFL pro scout and AFLW coach Darren Crocker – the father of Connors Sports client and Roos youngster Joel. 

With no junior matches currently being played for draft hopefuls due to the outbreak of COVID-19 in Victoria, the idea was implemented to showcase the talent to clubs.

It is believed Melbourne-based recruiters from more than a dozen AFL clubs are in attendance, with some clubs choosing to send multiple spotters given the lack of exposure to talent this year.

Clubs have in recent weeks been given the green light to start interviewing players over teleconferencing platforms such as Zoom.

However, they were told in April they were not allowed to meet with players and their families face-to-face for the immediate future.

When contacted, clubs in attendance at this week's training camp insisted they were adhering to social distancing guidelines.

Ugle-Hagan, who is tipped as the No.1 pick for this year's NAB AFL Draft, is a member of the Western Bulldogs' Next Generation Academy and has signed with Connors Sports.

Other clubs will have the right to bid on the 18-year-old, however given his links to the Dogs' zone in south-west Victoria, the Dogs will have first right to match and attain his services.

He is expected to be the highest player taken in a draft linked to a club after Callum Mills joined Sydney at pick No.3 in 2015 via the club's Academy.

Daicos, the son of Collingwood great Peter and brother of current Pie Josh, is seen as a possible top-five pick in next year's draft and is also taking part.

A host of underage players, like Daicos, are in attendance including Jake Soligo, Josh Sinn, Angus McLennan, Campbell Chesser, Tyler Sonsie – Vic Metro's MVP at last year's Under 16 carnival – and Josh Rachele – Kevin Sheehan Medallist for the carnival's best player.

It is understood this has left several rival agents questioning the camp by contacting the AFL Players Association for comment.

Players are allowed to officially sign with agents immediately after the draft in the year preceding their own draft eligibility, which will come later this year for the crop of 2021.

However, the first approach from agents to players can come from October 1 in their top-age year of under-16s.

Other players eligible for this year's draft at the camp include top hopefuls Bailey Laurie, Tanner Bruhn, Archie Perkins, Finlay Macrae (brother of Western Bulldog Jack) and Sam Witherden (brother of Brisbane's Alex).

Next Generation Academy prospects Reef McInnes (Collingwood) and Connor Downie (Hawthorn) are also taking part.

The program is being headed by the expanding management group including agents Paul Connors, Robbie D'Orazio, Nathan Freeman and Nick Gieschen who crossed from TLA ahead of this season.

Clubs in attendance spoken to by AFL.com.au said they would jump at any opportunity to watch young talent exposed in their draft year with access limited.

The SANFL under-18 competition returned last weekend, while the WAFL competition will return from July 18.

The NAB League will hold a six-week competition in Victoria from August 22.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/459929/afl-recruiters-descend-on-sorrento-for-private-camp
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on July 20, 2020, 05:57:06 AM
AFL recruiters face 'huge challenge' of judging draft prospects who can't demonstrate abilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/20-07-19/afl-recruiters-face-huge-challenge-to-judge-draft-prospects/12462594
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
Underage comps to change from U16s/U18s to U17s/U19s.

Draft age minimum to remain at 18.

VFL to merge with NEAFL.

source: Ch7 news.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Jonah Vark on August 24, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
Underage comps to change from U16s/U18s to U17s/U19s.

Draft age minimum to remain at 18.



source: Ch7 news.

So what's the stuffing point then? ::)

Quote
VFL to merge with NEAFL.

 :facepalm  :thumbsdown
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on August 24, 2020, 11:54:33 PM
What about the academy kid key defender Baxter come on a bit last season.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on August 27, 2020, 02:21:07 PM
I can't post the link from my phone but from Nat Edwards & Callum Twomey's latest podcast on the AFL website:

15:35 - Elijah Hollands discusses his time training with Richmond and his link to the Tigers.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on August 31, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
Who was that kid that was a 200cm ruck and supposedly lightning quick from a year or two ago. He didn't get drafted but there was a game where they moved him to fullback and he toweled up one of the King brothers I think(so it must've been two years ago) Brown? :huh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on August 31, 2020, 04:29:28 PM
What about the academy kid key defender Baxter come on a bit last season.

I wonder if will take him.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2020, 04:48:58 PM
Cal Twomey's Top 25 phantom draft guide

afl.com.au
1 September 2020


1. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan .... 194cm/84kg   4/4/02   Key forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Bulldogs)
2. Logan McDonald .......... 196cm/85kg   4/4/02   Tall forward  Perth/Western Australia
3. Elijah Hollands ...……….. 188cm/85kg  25/4/02   Mid/forward   Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
4. Riley Thilthorpe ...……... 200cm/99kg   7/7/02   Key forward   West Adelaide/South Australia
5. Denver Grainger-Barras  195cm/78kg  17/4/02   Key defender  Swan Districts/Western Australia
6. Tanner Bruhn .........…... 182cm/73kg  27/5/02   Midfielder    Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
7. Oliver Henry ......………... 188cm/76kg  29/7/02   Forward       Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
8. Braeden Campbell …...... 180cm/73kg   4/2/02   Midfielder    Swans Academy/Allies
9. Will Phillips ......…………... 180cm/79kg  22/5/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
10. Zach Reid ...………......... 202cm/82kg   2/3/02   Key defender  Gippsland Power/Vic Country
11. Lachie Jones ......…….... 185cm/88kg   9/4/02   Defender/mid  Woodville-WT/South Australia (NGA Port)
12. Finlay Macrae ...……...... 184cm/75kg  13/3/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
13. Alex Davies ......………... 191cm/85kg  18/3/02   Midfielder    Gold Coast Academy/Allies
14. Archie Perkins ...……..... 186cm/77kg  26/3/02   Mid/forward   Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
15. Errol Gulden ...………..... 171cm/71kg  18/7/02   Mid/forward   Sydney Academy/Allies
16. Reef McInnes ...……...... 192cm/84kg  12/12/02  Mid/forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Collingwood)
17. Heath Chapman .......... 193cm/81kg  31/1/02   Key defender  West Perth/Western Australia
18. Jack Carroll ...………...... 188cm/79kg  20/12/02  Midfielder    East Fremantle/Western Australia
19. Nathan O'Driscoll ……... 187cm/76kg  17/5/02   Midfielder    Perth/Western Australia
20. Joel Jeffrey ......………... 192cm/78kg  12/3/02   Fwd/defender  NT Thunder/Allies (Suns Academy)
21. Zane Trew ......……....... 187cm/78kg  26/4/02   Midfielder    Swan Districts/Western Australia
22. Brayden Cook ……........ 188cm/74kg  18/7/02   Forward/mid   South Adelaide/South Australia
23. Nik Cox .........………..... 199cm/82kg  15/1/02   Key fwd/def   Northern Knights/Vic Metro
24. Bailey Laurie ...……….... 178cm/76kg  24/3/02   Forward/mid   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
25. Connor Downie ...…..... 185cm/83kg  31/5/02   Midfielder    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (NGA Hawthorn)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/493042/cal-twomey-s-2020-phantom-form-guide-september-update
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2020, 02:59:51 PM
RICHMOND

Draft picks (pre-Round 18): 17, 31, 53, 71, 89, 107, 125

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-offseason-afl-list-changes-delisted-players-trades-draft-picks-retirements-indicative-draft-order-rookies-free-agents/news-story/023702f06e2e525faac9a3e8c9bfae10

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on September 15, 2020, 04:29:24 PM
Didn't we receive a second round from pies that belonged to saints.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Gracie on September 15, 2020, 04:50:37 PM
RICHMOND

Draft picks (pre-Round 18): 17, 31, 53, 71, 89, 107, 125

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-offseason-afl-list-changes-delisted-players-trades-draft-picks-retirements-indicative-draft-order-rookies-free-agents/news-story/023702f06e2e525faac9a3e8c9bfae10

Who is getting the extra pick?? 3rd on the ladder would normally be pick 16
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: JP Tiger on September 15, 2020, 05:46:32 PM
Riley Thilthorpe?  Sylvester the Cat wont be happy ....    :P
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on September 15, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Heard we're right into Hollands though obviously that would require trading up to a pick in the top 5 at least which will take some doing... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: wayne on September 15, 2020, 09:21:29 PM
Heard we're right into Hollands though obviously that would require trading up to a pick in the top 5 at least which will take some doing... :shh

Easy, Broad, our 2020 and 2021 first for Suns 2020 first and 2021 2nd.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on September 16, 2020, 03:27:16 AM
RICHMOND

Draft picks (pre-Round 18): 17, 31, 53, 71, 89, 107, 125

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-offseason-afl-list-changes-delisted-players-trades-draft-picks-retirements-indicative-draft-order-rookies-free-agents/news-story/023702f06e2e525faac9a3e8c9bfae10

Who is getting the extra pick?? 3rd on the ladder would normally be pick 16

Geelong gained pick 11 via trading last year for Gold Coast's 2020 mid-first-round priority pick.

https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/308919/cats-secure-future-first-round-pick

2020 First Round (as of Round 17).

1. Adelaide
2. North
3. Hawthorn
4. Sydney
5. Gold Coast
6. Essendon
7. Carlton
8. Fremantle
9. Adelaide
10. North
11. Geelong
12. W.Bulldogs
13. St Kilda
14. Collingwood
15. Geelong
16. Geelong
17. Richmond
18. Brisbane
19. Brisbane

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on September 16, 2020, 03:29:31 AM
Didn't we receive a second round from pies that belonged to saints.
Yep, we received the Saints' second rounder and gave the Pies ours. So our second rounder is now currently pick 31.


Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on September 23, 2020, 02:23:58 AM

9. Will Phillips ......…………... 180cm/79kg  22/5/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro


FWIW, Matt Rendell was on Open Mike tonight and said this kid's another Matty Rowell....:shh 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2020, 05:40:08 AM
How strong is this year’s draft pool?

Recruiters believe this year’s draft pool is strong, with good depth.

Key position stocks are particularly strong, while there are plenty of talented midfielders and smalls.

However, some recruiters believe after the first round there will be a lot of gambles taken on players.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2020-indicative-picks-order-key-questions-answered/news-story/0e6555cca4633bae7721fff4c3b15cbb
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on September 27, 2020, 08:41:21 AM
We need a few key positions with Jack getting on etc and maybe a young ruck  if one or Chol or CCJ go.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2020, 03:44:53 PM
Cal Twomey's Top 25 phantom draft guide - October update

afl.com.au
6 October 2020


1. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan .... 194cm/84kg   4/4/02   Key forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Bulldogs)
2. Logan McDonald .......... 196cm/85kg   4/4/02   Tall forward  Perth/Western Australia
3. Elijah Hollands ...……….. 188cm/85kg  25/4/02   Mid/forward   Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
4. Riley Thilthorpe ...……... 200cm/99kg   7/7/02   Key forward   West Adelaide/South Australia
5. Denver Grainger-Barras  195cm/78kg  17/4/02   Key defender  Swan Districts/Western Australia
6. Braeden Campbell …...... 180cm/73kg   4/2/02   Midfielder    Swans Academy/Allies   (+2)
7. Will Phillips ......…………... 180cm/79kg  22/5/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (+2)
8. Tanner Bruhn .........…... 182cm/73kg  27/5/02   Midfielder    Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-2)
9. Oliver Henry ......………... 188cm/76kg  29/7/02   Forward       Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-2)
10. Lachie Jones ......…….... 185cm/88kg   9/4/02   Defender/mid  Woodville-WT/South Australia (NGA Port) (+1)
11. Zach Reid ...………......... 202cm/82kg   2/3/02   Key defender  Gippsland Power/Vic Country (-1)
12. Finlay Macrae ...……...... 184cm/75kg  13/3/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
13. Archie Perkins ...……..... 186cm/77kg  26/3/02   Mid/forward   Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
14. Alex Davies ......………... 191cm/85kg  18/3/02   Midfielder    Gold Coast Academy/Allies (-1)
15. Heath Chapman .......... 193cm/81kg  31/1/02   Key defender  West Perth/Western Australia (+2)
16. Brayden Cook ……........ 188cm/74kg  18/7/02   Forward/mid   South Adelaide/South Australia (+6)
17. Joel Jeffrey ......………... 192cm/78kg  12/3/02   Fwd/defender  NT Thunder/Allies (Suns Academy) (+3)
18. Tom Powell ................ 183cm/74kg  02/03/02  Midfielder       Sturt/South Australia (new)
19. Reef McInnes ...……...... 192cm/84kg  12/12/02  Mid/forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Collingwood) (-3)
20. Jack Carroll ...………...... 188cm/79kg  20/12/02  Midfielder    East Fremantle/Western Australia (-2)
21. Nik Cox .........………..... 199cm/82kg  15/1/02   Key fwd/def   Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+2)
22. Errol Gulden ...………..... 171cm/71kg  18/7/02   Mid/forward   Sydney Academy/Allies (-7)
23. Connor Downie ...…..... 185cm/83kg  31/5/02   Midfielder    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (NGA Hawthorn) (+2)
24. Bailey Laurie ...……….... 178cm/76kg  24/3/02   Forward/mid   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
25. Zane Trew ......……....... 187cm/78kg  26/4/02   Midfielder    Swan Districts/Western Australia (-4)



Dropped out from September:
Nathan O'Driscoll ……... 187cm/76kg  17/5/02   Midfielder    Perth/Western Australia (19. --> outside 25)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/514307/cal-twomey-s-2020-phantom-form-guide-october-update
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on October 06, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
Love to see us trade up for a change... try and get a top tenner... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Beating St Kilda meant we didn't go backwards with our second pick which is tied to St Kilda's final ladder position.

Our current picks:  17, 32, 53, 71, 89

https://www.afl.com.au/news/514242/indicative-draft-order-your-club-s-picks-as-they-stand
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on October 15, 2020, 12:44:35 PM
https://www.afl.com.au/news/517646/listen-tigers-recruiting-boss-on-2020-plans-houli-s-future-and-another-rioli-

 :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on October 15, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
https://www.afl.com.au/news/517646/listen-tigers-recruiting-boss-on-2020-plans-houli-s-future-and-another-rioli-

 :shh
This week's episode guide

0:50 – How have the Tigers recruiting team kept involved with the club while outside the hub?

3:25 – A look at the best performers in the WA All Stars game and South Australian finals over the weekend.

7:25 – Clarke gives his take on this year's draft group and the players who have impressed.

9:20 – We get an insight into how Victorian prospects will be ranked, with Clarke naming the players he was keen to see in 2020 before COVID-19 struck.

13:00 – How many picks will Richmond use at the draft this year?

14:25 – Will Maurice Rioli Jnr end up at Richmond as a father-son pick? Clarke gives an update on the talent.

16:00 – How do the Tigers balance being in the premiership window while drafting? The methods of staying on top of list management.

18:30 – The latest on Bachar Houli and the Tigers' group of uncontracted players as the off-season approaches.

22:10 – How recruiting is going to change post-COVID.

27:15 – The back story to Richmond's drafting of emerging backline star Noah Balta.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/517646/listen-tigers-recruiting-boss-on-2020-plans-houli-s-future-and-another-rioli-
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2020, 12:47:32 AM
Who was that kid that was a 200cm ruck and supposedly lightning quick from a year or two ago. He didn't get drafted but there was a game where they moved him to fullback and he toweled up one of the King brothers I think(so it must've been two years ago) Brown? :huh

Was this kid....

https://draftprospects.prod.afl/prospect/1006029

:shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on October 22, 2020, 03:21:57 AM
We're is he playing now ?.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on October 22, 2020, 12:47:41 PM
Can't find anything on him now...seems to have disappeared... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Chuck17 on October 22, 2020, 01:32:24 PM
Stayed at his local Albury club
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on October 22, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Stayed at his local Albury club
Yep.

https://www.bordermail.com.au/story/6596290/promising-tall-ben-kelly-knocks-back-offers-to-stay-with-home-o-m-club/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 09, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Knightmare on BF:

Q. Just wanting your thoughts on best available KPF/FF thats the most suitable for the RFC at pick #22/23 or would it be better to go best available mid. 2 players I'm keen on are Liam McMahon & Eddy Ford. Where do you seen them going in the draft range and who in the current game do you see them most like

A. No key forwards I'd personally target at 22/23. Maybe Nik Cox is there and he's a worthy consideration, but my guess is he's gone and personally if I want a key position player I'd prefer Callow. I'd personally use that pick for something else and personally on a best available selection.

If Richmond want a key forward through the draft go get Jackson Callow or Kaine Baldwin at 36. One of them if not both will be there. Or that's what I'd do.

McMahon I see late second round onwards, Ford second round onwards also. Again, at 36 one, the other, if not both should be available. McMahon isn't on my draft board but Ford is, albeit lowish on my board.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmare-2020-draft-almanac.1234618/post-67887769
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 12, 2020, 01:43:12 PM
More draft rule changes ...

By Peter Ryan

This morning clubs have been told of two shifts in the rules relating to the draft being held in December.

The AFL have reduced the requirement that clubs take three selections at the draft to just one. Most clubs will make more than one pick but several clubs are considering adding one player from the total pool and then using the remaining points to put academy, father-son or NGA graduates on the list.

The second change is that clubs will be able to take selections into the national draft as if the primary list is still at 40. This is important as clubs have had to take as many picks into the draft as they had list spots available but the uncertainty around list sizes left them concerned about what they could do this season. Some clubs also wanted to potentially trade picks on the night so having an extra number would increase liquidity into the system.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-deadline-day-all-the-trades-and-all-the-drama-on-deadline-day-20201112-p56dvm.html
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Tiger Tragic on November 12, 2020, 02:10:45 PM
So will we be looking to just use one pick and taking MRJ as a rookie unless a bid comes for him? Can't see us taking more than 2 incl MRJ given we have so many rookies amount to be promoted to the senior list
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: taztiger4 on November 12, 2020, 02:23:26 PM
With Rance, Higgo, Lego, G Train and Jonny English off and Mate' Colina on, we currently have 40 total, 34 on main list & 6 rookies
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Tiger Tragic on November 12, 2020, 03:32:38 PM
With Rance, Higgo, Lego, G Train and Jonny English off and Mate' Colina on, we currently have 40 total, 34 on main list & 6 rookies

But how many of the rookies need to be upgraded? Baker and Pickett are two.  Which others?
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on November 12, 2020, 03:54:39 PM
So what's our draft position next 2 years now. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 12, 2020, 10:20:24 PM
So what's our draft position next 2 years now.
2020:  Picks 17, 36, 61, 79, 97, ...

2021:  One 1st rounder
          Two 2nd rounders (ours and St Kilda's)
          Two 3rd rounders (ours and Gold Coast's)
          No 4th rounders
          One 5th rounder, ....
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 16, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
Cal Twomey's Top 25 phantom draft guide - November update

afl.com.au
16 November 2020


1. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan .... 194cm/84kg   4/4/02   Key forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Bulldogs)
2. Logan McDonald .......... 196cm/85kg   4/4/02   Tall forward  Perth/Western Australia
3. Elijah Hollands ...……….. 188cm/85kg  25/4/02   Mid/forward   Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
4. Riley Thilthorpe ...……... 200cm/99kg   7/7/02   Key forward   West Adelaide/South Australia
5. Denver Grainger-Barras  195cm/78kg  17/4/02   Key defender  Swan Districts/Western Australia
6. Will Phillips ......…………... 180cm/79kg  22/5/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (+1)
7. Tanner Bruhn .........…... 182cm/73kg  27/5/02   Midfielder    Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (+1)
8. Braeden Campbell …...... 180cm/73kg   4/2/02   Midfielder    Swans Academy/Allies   (-2)
9. Lachie Jones ......…….... 185cm/88kg   9/4/02   Defender/mid  Woodville-WT/South Australia (NGA Port) (+1)
10. Archie Perkins ...……..... 186cm/77kg  26/3/02   Mid/forward   Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+3)
11. Zach Reid ...………......... 202cm/82kg   2/3/02   Key defender  Gippsland Power/Vic Country
12. Oliver Henry ......………... 188cm/76kg  29/7/02   Forward       Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-3)
13. Heath Chapman .......... 193cm/81kg  31/1/02   Key defender  West Perth/Western Australia (+2)
14. Alex Davies ......………... 191cm/85kg  18/3/02   Midfielder    Gold Coast Academy/Allies
15. Finlay Macrae ...……...... 184cm/75kg  13/3/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (-3)
16. Nik Cox .........………..... 199cm/82kg  15/1/02   Key fwd/def   Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+5)
17. Tom Powell ................ 183cm/74kg  02/03/02  Midfielder       Sturt/South Australia (+1)
18. Joel Jeffrey ......………... 192cm/78kg  12/3/02   Fwd/defender  NT Thunder/Allies (Suns Academy) (-1)
19. Brayden Cook ……........ 188cm/74kg  18/7/02   Forward/mid   South Adelaide/South Australia (-3)
20. Reef McInnes ...……...... 192cm/84kg  12/12/02  Mid/forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Collingwood) (-1)
21. Jack Carroll ...………...... 188cm/79kg  20/12/02  Midfielder    East Fremantle/Western Australia (-1)
22. Errol Gulden ...………..... 171cm/71kg  18/7/02   Mid/forward   Sydney Academy/Allies
23. Connor Downie ...…..... 185cm/83kg  31/5/02   Midfielder    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (NGA Hawthorn)
24. Zane Trew ......……....... 187cm/78kg  26/4/02   Midfielder    Swan Districts/Western Australia (+1)
25. Zavier Maher .............. 185cm/82kg    5/5/02   Midfielder     Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (new)

Dropped out from September:
Nathan O'Driscoll ……... 187cm/76kg  17/5/02   Midfielder    Perth/Western Australia (19. --> outside 25)

Dropped out from October:
Bailey Laurie ...……….... 178cm/76kg  24/3/02   Forward/mid   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (24. --> outside 25)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524401/cal-twomey-s-2020-phantom-form-guide-november-update
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 16, 2020, 01:48:26 PM
Chris Doerre (Knightmare on BF) has also had a go at the second round of the draft:

41. Richmond - Kaine Baldwin

Height, Weight: 193cm, 92kg

Profile: Suffering a second season-ending ACL, Baldwin is one of the most exciting players in this year's draft and if not for the second knee injury may have been in the top-10 draft mix. Dominating in the Under 16s, Baldwin has proven he is a strong marking force and damaging close to goal.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/30320300/afl-draft-chris-doerre-knightmare-espn-two-round-phantom-draft

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 17, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
Vic draft prospects may get extra chance to impress clubs.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524663


Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 18, 2020, 01:50:34 PM
Clubs have been informed that a significant change has been applied to this year's bidding system in light of the reduction in list sizes and the trading of future picks last year.

Under normal AFL rules, clubs who are matching bids for northern Academy, Next Generation Academy and father-son players are only allowed to use draft points from the amount of picks that is equal to the number of their available list spots.

This has been to stop clubs from stockpiling late draft picks with the intention of only using them to pay for highly rated draftees, even if they had more picks at the draft than they had list spots available, which was an early loophole of the live bidding system. 

But clubs will not be bound by that rule at next month's national draft after the League gave clearance for clubs to use points from draft picks even if they are not going to use the selections to draft players.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524802/swans-pies-among-clubs-buoyed-by-late-draft-rule-tweak
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Andyy on November 18, 2020, 08:42:57 PM
Another conspiracy against Richmond and MRJ.

Giving minnow clubs the chance to bit with their poo change picks.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 19, 2020, 02:55:57 PM
The National Draft will be on December 9 at 7pm.

The Pre-Season and Rookie Draft will be held the following day on December 10.

They will be virtual events.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524876/2020-draft-night-confirmed-afl-to-go-virtual-across-the-country
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 19, 2020, 03:03:20 PM
We're planning to use two or three of our picks in the draft according to the AFL website.



How many picks will your club use at the NAB AFL Draft?

Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
19 November 2020


AFL.com.au has found there is set to be a minimum of 50 picks used at the draft and a maximum of 63. Most clubs believe the number will finish in the mid-50s.

West Coast and Gold Coast are the only clubs weighing up whether to use a single pick at the draft, with the Suns to claim at least two Academy talents as automatic pre-selections before the event.

Geelong will use a maximum of two picks after sending its three first-round choices to the Giants for Jeremy Cameron, with St Kilda, Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond and the Western Bulldogs all to use either two or three picks.

Sydney and Melbourne will use three selections and Port Adelaide may do the same, with Adelaide and Fremantle favouring taking in four selections on the night.

After their busy Trade Periods, Collingwood, Essendon, North Melbourne and Greater Western Sydney all look set for the biggest investment in the 2020 draft pool by using either four or five picks.

The Hawks, too, are considering using up to five selections on the night but may be as few as three.

Plenty of clubs' decisions on picks will be kept fluid given the positioning of their later selections will be dictated by how early bids come for the assortment of Academy, Next Generation Academy and father-son players around the competition.

Many clubs are also considering taking an empty spot on their list into the summer period for players to train with them under the pre-season supplemental selection period rules.

The AFL has also indicated it will open up signing periods after rounds four, eight and 12 next year instead of a mid-season draft for clubs with open list spots to take some of the talents who have been overlooked at this year's draft intake.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/524855/how-many-picks-will-your-club-use-at-the-nab-afl-draft-
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: The Machine on November 19, 2020, 09:30:47 PM
Finlay Macrae looks to be a ripper and could be available for our first selection if we don't go tall.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 24, 2020, 03:04:45 AM
Jackson Trengove

If Richmond needs a back-up ruckman to cover for Ivan Soldo in 2021 and provide a contingency if Toby Nankervis goes down, Trengove could be a great short-term addition. The Tigers have never needed the best player in any position, rather they find the best role player and it just works like a charm.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2020-delisted-free-agency-best-delisted-free-agents-lewis-jetta-heath-shaw-jackson-trengove/news-story/70c7ef200d2626245cbe60a87a401fff

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Knighter on November 24, 2020, 09:50:32 AM
Well past his used by date.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on November 24, 2020, 10:10:41 AM
No way. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on November 24, 2020, 02:44:23 PM
Scharenberg is the only DFA I'd even remotely consider and I'd still rather not..... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 24, 2020, 03:03:08 PM
Some caller on SEN today was linking us to delisted Saint Matthew Parker.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on November 24, 2020, 04:08:11 PM
Wrong Parker...  :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Andyy on November 24, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
Some caller on SEN today was linking us to delisted Saint Matthew Parker.

Oodles of talent but a prick of the highest order according to Saints board on BF.

Apparently he was dropped and got dirty with the club and refused to earn his spot back because he thought he was better than some of the guys playing AFL.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on November 25, 2020, 11:41:21 PM
Poster on BF reckons Ethan Baxter has chosen cricket over footy... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Andyy on November 26, 2020, 12:03:45 AM
Poster on BF reckons Ethan Baxter has chosen cricket over footy... :shh

I'm hoping my son does both.

Tigers aged 18-31 or so.

Aus test team 31-38.

Prime minister in his 40's.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2020, 01:49:11 AM
THE AFL DELISTED FREE AGENTS YOUR CLUB SHOULD TARGET

By Andrew Slevison
SEN
26 November 2020


RICHMOND

Matt Parker (St Kilda)

The Tigers are highly unlikely to get involved with delisted free agents given the current strength of the list. If anything, some added depth in the forward line wouldn’t hurt.

Perhaps a punt on a player like Matt Parker could work.

He has plenty of raw ability and showed in his 17 games in his debut season in 2019 that his best is more than competitive at the elite level.

While it is fairly implausible that he will end up at Richmond, Parker is the type of player who could potentially prosper at a great club.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/11/25/the-afl-delisted-free-agents-your-club-should-target/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2020, 02:32:43 PM
KEVIN SHEEHAN'S TOP 40 AFL DRAFT PROSPECTS

BY SEN
26 November 2020


AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan has released his top 40 draft prospects ahead of the 2020 AFL Draft on December 9.

“From nearly 1000 nominations for the NAB AFL Draft from clubs across the nation, I’ve settled on my top 40 prospects for what will be the 35th NAB AFL National Draft. An integral part of our AFL competition and its competitive balance across all 18 clubs,” Sheehan said in a statement.

"We look forward to celebrating the best of the best from around Australia on NAB AFL Draft Night."

Below is Sheehan's top 40 draft prospects in the 2020 AFL Draft:

Ryan Angwin

Gippsland Power, NAB League / Foster FC
Height: 184cm
Weight: 72kg
12/12/02
Weapon: Ability to find space and create
Player comparison: Christian Salem, Melbourne

Sam Berry

Gippsland Power, NAB League / Maffra FC / Melbourne Grammar
Height: 181cm
Weight: 80kg
12/02/02
Weapon: Contested ball winning
Player comparison: Josh Dunkley, Western Bulldogs

Jake Bowey

Sandringham Dragons, NAB League / Highett FC
Height: 175cm
Weight: 67 kg
12/09/02
Weapon: Field kicking on right and left
Player comparison: Shai Bolton, Richmond

Tanner Bruhn

Geelong Falcons, NAB League / Newtown FC / Geelong Grammar
Height: 183cm
Weight: 74kg
27/05/02
Weapon: Decision making and composure
Player comparison: Taylor Adams, Collingwood

Braeden Campbell

Sydney Swans Academy / Westbrook / Pennant Hills / Allies
Height: 181cm
Weight: 75kg
04/02/02
Weapon: Dynamic left foot
Player comparison: Michael Walters, Fremantle

Jack Carroll

East Fremantle, WAFL / Geraldton
Height: 187cm
Weight: 76kg
20/12/02
Weapon: Footy Nous- speed and run and carry
Player comparison: Josh Kelly, GWS GIANTS

Heath Chapman

West Perth, WAFL / Joondalup-Kinross FC
Height: 192cm
Weight: 81kg
31/01/02
Weapon: Aerial strength and rebound
Player comparison: Jordan Ridley, Essendon

Blake Coleman

Brisbane Lions Academy / Morningside
Height: 180cm
Weight: 79kg
06/08/02
Weapon: Aerial ability and goal sense
Player comparison: Liam Ryan, West Coast Eagles

Sam Collins

Tasmanian Devils, NAB League / North Hobart FC
Height: 187cm
Weight: 82kg
06/01/02
Weapon: Intercept marking
Player comparison: Brad Sheppard, West Coast Eagles

Brayden Cook

South Adelaide, SANFL / Happy Valley FC
Height: 189cm
Weight: 80 kg
18/07/02
Weapon: Innate goal sense
Player comparison: Alex Sexton, Gold Coast SUNS

Nik Cox

Northern Knights, NAB League / Montmorency FC / Ivanhoe Grammar
Height: 200cm
Weight: 87kg
15/01/02
Weapon: Athletic ability and versatility
Player comparison: Marc Blicavs, Geelong

Alex Davies

Gold Coast Academy / Cairns Saints / Broadbeach Cats
Height: 192cm
Weight: 85kg
18/03/02
Weapon: Clean hands around stoppages
Player comparison: Patrick Cripps, Carlton

Connor Downie

Eastern Rangers, NAB League / Vermont FC
Height: 185cm
Weight: 82kg
31/05/02
Weapon: Explosive speed and raking left foot
Player comparison: Bachar Houli, Richmond

Luke Edwards

Glenelg, SANFL / Henley HS
Height: 188cm
Weight: 83kg
12/01/02
Weapon: Composure and ball use
Player comparison: Andrew Brayshaw, Fremantle

Eddie Ford

Western Jets, NAB League / Yarraville-Seddon FC
Height: 189cm
Weight: 84kg
21/06/02
Weapon: Aerial skills and innate goal sense
Player comparison: Jack Gunston, Hawthorn

Denver Grainger-Barras

Swan Districts, WAFL / Kalamunda FC
Height: 194m
Weight: 78kg
17/04/02
Weapon: Intercept marking
Player comparison: Jeremy McGovern, West Coast Eagles

Errol Gulden

Sydney Swans Academy / Maroubra Saints FC / Allies
Height: 175cm
Weight: 75kg
18/07/02
Weapon: Game sense and relentless running
Player comparison: Andrew Gaff, West Coast Eagles

Oliver Henry

Geelong Falcons, NAB League / St Marys FC / St Joseph’s College
Height: 188cm
Weight: 77kg
29/07/02
Weapon: Aerial skills
Player comparison: Jeremy Howe, Collingwood

Elijah Hollands

Murray Bushrangers, NAB League / Wodonga FC
Height: 189cm
Weight: 85kg
25/04/02
Weapon: Innate goal sense and step through traffic
Player comparison: Jordon De Goey, Collingwood

Joel Jeffery

Wanderers, NTFL / GCS Academy / Allies
Height: 192cm
Weight: 80kg
12/03/02
Weapon: Intercept marking
Player comparison: Tom Stewart, Geelong

Lachie Jones

WWT, SANFL / Bute Paskville FC
Height: 186cm
Weight: 89kg
09/04/02
Weapon: Contested ball winner
Player comparison: Tom Jonas, Port Adelaide

Brodie Lake

Southern Districts, NTFL / Central Districts, SANFL
Height: 185cm
Weight: 79kg
16/05/02
Weapon: Speed and game sense
Player comparison: Hugh McCluggage, Brisbane

Bailey Laurie

Oakleigh Chargers, NAB League / Beverley Hills / Caufield Grammar
Height: 179cm
Weight: 78kg
24/03/02
Weapon: High footy IQ
Player comparison: Brent Daniels, GWS GIANTS

Finlay Macrae

Oakleigh Chargers, NAB League / Xavier College
Height: 186cm
Weight: 78kg
13/03/02
Weapon: Composure and ball use
Player comparison: David Zaharakis , Essendon

Zavier Maher

Murray Bushrangers, NAB League / Shepparton Bears FC / Caulfield Grammar
Height: 185cm
Weight: 82kg
05/05/02
Weapon: Burst from stoppage

Player comparison: Luke Shuey, West Coast Eagles

Reef McInnes

Oakleigh Chargers, NAB League / Surrey Park FC / Scotch College
Height: 193cm
Weight: 86kg
12/12/02
Weapon: Versatility and athleticism
Player comparison: Jarrod Berry, Brisbane Lions

Logan McDonald

Perth FC, WAFL / Aquinas College
Height: 196cm
Weight: 86kg
04/04/02
Weapon: Overhead marking and repeat efforts
Player comparison: Jack Riewoldt, Richmond

Carter Michael

Brisbane Lions Academy / Maroochydore FC
Height: 188cm
Weight: 74kg
22/05/02
Weapon: Dynamic left foot kick and pace
Player comparison: Daniel Rich, Brisbane Lions

Shannon Neale

South Fremantle, WAFL / Leeming SHS
Height: 202cm
Weight: 91kg
25/7/02
Weapon: Rare athleticism
Player comparison: Rhys Stanley, Geelong

Nathan O’Driscoll

Perth, WAFL / Northern Saints FC
Height: 188cm
Weight: 79kg
17/05/02
Weapon: Ball winning ability
Player comparison: Dom Sheed, West Coast Eagles

Archie Perkins

Sandringham Dragons, NAB League / Brighton Grammar
Height: 188cm
Weight: 79kg
26/03/02
Weapon: X-factor overhead and power
Player comparison: Tim Taranto, GWS GIANTS

Will Phillips

Oakleigh Chargers, NAB League / Beverley Hills JFC / Caulfield Grammar
Height: 180cm
Weight: 80kg
22/05/02
Weapon: Footy smarts and athletic ability
Player comparison: Lachie Neale, Brisbane Lions

Caleb Poulter

WWT Eagles, SANFL / Ardrossan FC
Height: 192cm
Weight: 79kg
12/10/02
Weapon: Footy IQ
Player comparison: Dyson Heppell, Essendon

Tom Powell

Sturt, SANFL / Scotch College
Height: 183cm
Weight: 74kg
02/03/02
Weapon: Clean hands and vision
Player comparison: Tom Mitchell, Hawthorn

Zac Reid

Gippsland Power, NAB League / Leongatha FC
Height: 202cm
Weight: 83kg
02/03/02
Weapon: Overhead marking and absolute reach
Player comparison: Harris Andrews, Brisbane

Conor Stone

Oakleigh Chargers, NAB League / St Kevin’s College
Height: 189cm
Weight: 83kg
22/04/02
Weapon: Versatile type who takes game on
Player comparison: Callum Mills, Sydney

Riley Thilthorpe

West Adelaide FC, SANFL / Goodwood Saints FC
Height: 201cm
Weight: 100kg
07/07/02
Weapon: Contested marking
Player comparison: Tom Lynch, Richmond

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

Oakleigh Chargers / South Warrnambool FC
Height: 195cm
Weight: 90kg
04/04/02
Weapon: Innate goal sense and athleticism
Player comparison: Lance Franklin, Sydney Swans

Brandon Walker

East Fremantle, WAFL / Kardinya Kats FC
Height: 183cm
Weight: 75kg
17/10/02
Weapon: Dazzling speed
Player comparison: Jason Johannisen, Western Bulldogs

Henry Walsh

Geelong Falcons, NAB League / St Marys FC / St Joseph’s College
Height: 203cm
Weight: 87kg
27/06/02
Weapon: Elite reach in ruck and marking contests
Player comparison: Ivan Soldo, Richmond

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/11/26/kevin-sheehans-top-40-afl-draft-prospects/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: camboon on November 28, 2020, 12:52:22 PM
Have a look at Liam Kolar and let me know your thoughts ( late round)
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on November 29, 2020, 09:27:00 AM
Heard Thilthorpe of road to the draft podcast.  Sounded like a bit of a figjam. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2020, 02:52:49 AM
Stars and smokies: Ultimate 2020 draft guide

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2020-stars-smokies-and-all-the-kids-you-need-to-know/news-story/24279c915ee94a4d61ce67fb3cc6f506

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
The steals and bargains YOUR club could snap up in the AFL draft

Matt Balmer
November 30, 2020
Source: FOX SPORTS


Not every club will walk into next month’s national draft with classy top selections.

So it means plenty will need to be creative and do their homework after a season like no other.

Foxfooty.com.au looks at some of the big bargain prospects for clubs looking outside the top 20.


Matthew ALLISON

Clubs: Calder Cannons/Vic Metro

Position: Key Forward

Size: 194cm/81kg

Teams that may suit: Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond

Bio: Allison has been a big riser for clubs on their draft boards across the year, with the tall having the potential to burst into first round. The 18-year-old might be very raw given his limited output for the Cannons in the NAB League last year, but has plenty of scope for development. At the Vic Metro combine, he ran 2.97s in the 20m sprint and ran a good 2km time trial (6:17).


Kaine BALDWIN

Clubs: Glenelg/South Australia

Position: Key Forward

Size: 193cm/90kg

Teams that may suit: Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond

Bio: Baldwin has had a tough run with injuries and could end up as a bargain for a club outside of the first round. His talent was clear at the Under 16 championships for South Australia, but has hardly been seen since. He tore his ACL at the start of 2019, before partially tearing the same ligament during a trial game at the beginning of this season. His contested marking and strength is the key traits that makes Baldwin standout, with the forward able to have an impact on a game and push further up the ground. He recently tested at the SA combine and is ready to hit an AFL pre-season hard.


Conor STONE

Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

Position: Forward

Size: 188cm/81kg

Teams that may suit: Essendon, Geelong, Richmond

Bio: Clubs pouring through vision of Stone in 2019 will be coming across one standout match, given the forward slotted five goals on NAB League debut for the Chargers. His acceleration can help him get ahead of his opponent close to goal, with the medium tall possessing good overhead marking ability. Stone has smarts and has pinpoint accuracy from set shot attempts. Given his athletic capabilities, clubs might try and develop him to play further up the ground in the future.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-draft-prospects-bargains-sliders-bolters-steals-afl-draft-order/news-story/54b9e4f23bc30181bef3abea090ffcae
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on November 30, 2020, 02:59:15 PM
Have a look at Liam Kolar and let me know your thoughts ( late round)
Liam Kolar

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Image Credit: Andy Brownbill/News Corp

Height:            195cm
Weight:             82kg
Current Team:   Northern Knights
Birthday:          April 23, 2002

POSITION: Key Forward/Wing

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “A raw multi-sport athlete with high scope for improvement, Kolar looms as a prospective bolter in this year’s draft pool.” – Michael Alvaro

Having transitioned to football from a soccer and athletics background, Northern Knights prospect Liam Kolar has enjoyed a steep rise in his short career. The 195cm athlete made the most of a late call-up on NAB League debut last year, showing glimpses of his potential up forward and even rotating through the ruck. His form was enough to warrant playing out the remaining two games with Northern, but a couple of strong preseason outings in 2020 truly cemented Kolar’s spot on the AFL Draft radar. The 18-year-old’s testing data would have turned heads, and makes for a solid base for him to improve his football upon. Though unable to show his wares on-field as a top-ager, Kolar earned a National Combine invite and is a talent to keep an eye on.

STRENGTHS:

Vertical leap
Athleticism
Endurance
Versatility
Scope

IMPROVEMENTS:

Raw/strength
Football craft

Despite the small sample size provided, it is clear that Kolar boasts all the athletic attributes which recruiters value. He ticks every box; as a lead-up key forward he is quick off the mark and has a sizeable vertical leap, while also proving agile enough to operate further afield and impact at ground level. His endurance base, highlighted by preseason results of 6:09 across 2km and 21.7 in the yo-yo test, also suits the modern game in a range of roles. It ultimately plays into Kolar’s versatility, with the potential to utilise that running capacity and speed up on a wing once his game sense improves. His effort to come into Northern’s side so late last season, adjust to the rigours, and compete against players who had been out there consistently is also testament to his elite athletic attributes – not to mention a high rate of improvement.

Outgoing Knights talent manager Rhy Gieschen identified Kolar as one to watch during preseason, noting his unique all-round athleticism and raw potential. One particular moment in preseason stood out, playing against reigning the NAB League premier, Oakleigh. In a Northern win, Kolar dashed forward with multiple running bounces, burned an opponent and thumped home one of his two goals from 50 metres out. Having returned a relatively low output in his initial Under 18s stint, such eye-catching plays are what make those at the top level take notice.

While he would prove somewhat of a speculative choice come draft time, Kolar could really be anything if provided the right support. The next and most significant step in his development will be to hone his football knowledge and craft, things which typically come with experience. After all, it is all well and good being able to run, jump, and weave, but you must be able to play the game above all else. Kolar has adjusted well to the elite Under 18s pathway, so should have confidence in his ability to maintain that trend as he climbs the ranks. Whether Kolar develops into a modern day centre half-forward, wingman, or mobile utility, there is plenty for AFL clubs to work with.

There are still a few things Kolar may look to enhance as he improves his overall craft. Somewhat rangy and lightly built, his one-on-one positioning and strength will be important for key position roles, while also allowing him to utilise his athleticism more effectively. His speed off the mark and vertical leap would be an unstoppable combination when presenting at the ball, but Kolar is sometimes caught behind or in a spot where he is unable to leap at the ball. These are things a few preseasons and experience at the top level will easily fix. Understanding the right leading patterns and when to take the game on from further afield will also come more naturally to him over time, hopefully aiding his overall output and consistency in the process.

DRAFT PROJECTION: Late-Rookie

It would take a brave club to back in the Northern Knights product with just three games of NAB League football under his belt, though Kolar’s elite athletic base across each department has many high on his potential. Having earned a National Combine invite, Kolar is clearly in the frame as a draft chance and has piqued the interest of recruiters. His lack of runs on the board has him pitted as a very late or rookie possibility at this point, and he would be a long-term choice made on upside. Given the NAB League’s extension to an Under-19 competition, Kolar could also be one to set the Victorian ranks alight should he miss out in 2020.

HIGHLIGHTED TESTING RESULTS:

Preseason:
Running Vertical Jump (R/L) – 83cm/82cm
Speed (20m) – 3.04 seconds
Endurance (yo-yo) – 21.7

NAB League Boys
Season   Team   K   HB   D   M   CP   UP   T   HO   CLR   I50   R50   GL   GM   K   H   D   M   HO   T   G   DC
2019   Northern Knights   10   6   16   8   3   12   4   1   0   5   0   1   3   3.3   2.0   5.3   2.7   0.3   1.3   0.3   28

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/liam-kolar/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2020, 02:23:28 PM
AFL to have one mid-season rookie draft in 2021

Peter Ryan
The Age
December 1, 2020 — 1.55pm


The mid-season rookie draft will remain in similar format to 2019 after the AFL consulted clubs and the AFL Players Association about the feasibility of running three in 2021.

The decision means clubs will still have next week's national draft, the pre-season and rookie drafts, the pre-season supplemental selection period and the mid-season rookie draft available as opportunities to add players to their lists between now and the middle of the season.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-to-have-one-mid-season-rookie-draft-in-2021-20201201-p56jjx.html
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 01, 2020, 02:27:47 PM
Draft Central twitter
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Check it out 👀⬇️

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https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020-afl-draft-guide/
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2020, 12:58:13 PM
Cal Twomey's Top 30 phantom draft guide - December update

afl.com.au
2 December 2020


1. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan .... 194cm/84kg   4/4/02   Key forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Bulldogs)
2. Logan McDonald .......... 196cm/85kg   4/4/02   Tall forward  Perth/Western Australia
3. Elijah Hollands ...……….. 188cm/85kg  25/4/02   Mid/forward   Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
4. Riley Thilthorpe ...……... 200cm/99kg   7/7/02   Key forward   West Adelaide/South Australia
5. Denver Grainger-Barras  195cm/78kg  17/4/02   Key defender  Swan Districts/Western Australia
6. Will Phillips ......…………... 180cm/79kg  22/5/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
7. Archie Perkins ...……..... 186cm/77kg  26/3/02   Mid/forward   Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+3)
8. Braeden Campbell …...... 180cm/73kg   4/2/02   Midfielder    Swans Academy/Allies   
9. Lachie Jones ......…….... 185cm/88kg   9/4/02   Defender/mid  Woodville-WT/South Australia (NGA Port)
10. Tanner Bruhn .........…... 182cm/73kg  27/5/02   Midfielder    Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-3)
11. Zach Reid ...………......... 202cm/82kg   2/3/02   Key defender  Gippsland Power/Vic Country
12. Nik Cox .........………..... 199cm/82kg  15/1/02   Key fwd/def   Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+4)
13. Oliver Henry ......………... 188cm/76kg  29/7/02   Forward       Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-1)
14. Heath Chapman .......... 193cm/81kg  31/1/02   Key defender  West Perth/Western Australia (-1)
15. Finlay Macrae ...……...... 184cm/75kg  13/3/02   Midfielder    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
16. Alex Davies ......………... 191cm/85kg  18/3/02   Midfielder    Gold Coast Academy/Allies (-2)
17. Tom Powell ................ 183cm/74kg  02/03/02  Midfielder       Sturt/South Australia
18. Brayden Cook ……........ 188cm/74kg  18/7/02   Forward/mid   South Adelaide/South Australia (+1)
19. Reef McInnes ...……...... 192cm/84kg  12/12/02  Mid/forward   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (NGA Collingwood) (+1)
20. Joel Jeffrey ......………... 192cm/78kg  12/3/02   Fwd/defender  NT Thunder/Allies (Suns Academy) (-2)
21. Jack Carroll ...………...... 188cm/79kg  20/12/02  Midfielder    East Fremantle/Western Australia
22. Connor Downie ...…..... 185cm/83kg  31/5/02   Midfielder    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (NGA Hawthorn) (+1)
23. Bailey Laurie ...……….... 178cm/76kg  24/3/02   Forward/mid   Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (back into top 25)
24. Errol Gulden ...………..... 171cm/71kg  18/7/02   Mid/forward   Sydney Academy/Allies (-2)
25. Nathan O'Driscoll ……... 187cm/76kg  17/5/02   Midfielder    Perth/Western Australia (back into top 25)
26. Connor Stone ............. 189cm/83kg  22/4/02   Forward      Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro (new)
27. Caleb Poulter .............. 192cm/79kg  12/10/02  Midfielder   Woodville West Torrens/South Australia (new)
28. Blake Coleman ............ 180cm/79kg   6/8/02    Forward      Brisbane Academy/Morningside
29. Zavier Maher .............. 185cm/82kg    5/5/02   Midfielder     Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-4)
30. Zane Trew ......……....... 187cm/78kg  26/4/02   Midfielder    Swan Districts/Western Australia (-6)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/526016/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-december-update
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2020, 01:15:04 PM
Every pick your club has and who they should draft with them

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2020-every-pick-your-club-has-and-who-they-should-draft-with-them/news-story/8f3119b89b78401a4e25eb85581feb1b


ps. If someone can post the Richmond part it would be much appreciated :).
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on December 02, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
Here ya go:

Quote
RICHMOND

DRAFT PICKS: 17, 36, 61, 79, 97

Imagine being the back-to-back reigning premiers and getting the opportunity to have Maurice Rioli Jr walk through the doors. Is it any wonder Richmond fans are buoyed by the club’s chances of a hat-trick next year? Rioli had the choice of three clubs – the Tigers and Fremantle under the father-son rule and Essendon via its Next Generation Academy. But the lure to play alongside his cousin Daniel has always been strong. Clubs can still bid on Rioli Jnr at the draft but Richmond has the option to match those bids. The Tigers could also look to speculative picks in order to seek long-range replacements for Bachar Houli and Jack Riewoldt in years to come.

– Glenn McFarlane


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2020-every-pick-your-club-has-and-who-they-should-draft-with-them/news-story/8f3119b89b78401a4e25eb85581feb1b

PRO TIP : For some reason it's a lot easier to find programs that get around the Daily Telegraph's paywall than it is the HUN's... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
Cheers for that, Dio  :cheers.

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Foxfooty.com.au has found there will be approximately 53 selections taken on draft night, with 12 of them likely to be bids on players already tied to AFL teams.

Richmond: 17, 36, 61, 79, 97 (likely to use two or three picks)

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-afl-draft-order-draft-picks-afl-draft-prospects-best-players-pick-1-contenders-list-of-academy-and-father-son-picks/news-story/5c39f40820b2f54c591b471c957d3a74
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 02, 2020, 06:57:59 PM
Pics of today's training session for Victorian draftees in front of AFL club recruiters:

https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202020%20Media%20-%20NAB%20AFL%20Draft%20Victoria%20Training%20Day

No MRJ from the photos.

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 03, 2020, 02:55:10 PM
Callum Twomey in his draft live chat today reckons we'll only use two picks (including MRJ). So that's just one live pick.

He also thinks we may be one of the clubs on draft night looking to do a live swap of pick(s) for a future (2021) pick.

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Q. Cal, I believe it's great karma for my beloved Tigers to snare another big kid from Tassie, what are your thoughts re: Jackson Callow?

Twomey: Tigers might only take two picks, and one of those might be Maurice Rioli Jr, so I can't see Callow being an early option.

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Twomey: Would be smart for Hawks to try to push up but the issue is clubs have gone cold on going back down the order. Most are actually looking to swap picks into the future - the Crows and Melbourne are a couple who could look at that, as may Richmond. But that takes a buyer who wants to trade a future pick, and at the moment Collingwood is the only one.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/527152
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 03, 2020, 04:44:22 PM
Unless they think a bid will come early for MRJ I would be disappointed if we traded out of this draft.  There looks to be some good mids available at 17 based on the phantoms.
I do think pick 17 plus MRJ would do though.  Keep a spot open or go in with the minimum list.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 03, 2020, 08:35:12 PM
Scouting notes: Who impressed at Vic draft trial?

More than 50 of Victoria’s best draft hopefuls were put through their paces in front of a crowd of AFL recruiters. Who were the standouts?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2020-player-manager-colin-youngs-nervous-wait-as-son-logan-becomes-a-contender/news-story/88d76abaa7586821d9c50ce2db303f1f
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 03, 2020, 08:35:40 PM
Revealed: Every player in 2020 AFL national draft

More than 1000 players have put their names forward for this year’s AFL national draft.

Search our database for every single one of them.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/more-than-1000-players-nominate-for-2020-afl-national-draft/news-story/120858c6a791bd97d70db0a2c058506f
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on December 04, 2020, 10:33:11 PM
Poster on BF reckons Ethan Baxter has chosen cricket over footy... :shh

BF poster was apparently wrong...has nominated for the draft...good chance we'll take him as a Cat B rookie... :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Knighter on December 04, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
Poster on BF reckons Ethan Baxter has chosen cricket over footy... :shh

BF poster was apparently wrong...has nominated for the draft...good chance we'll take him as a Cat B rookie... :shh

Sounds like a game of cat and mouse going on
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 05, 2020, 12:00:34 PM
The glaring need every AFL club simply must fill at the Draft

December 5, 2020
by David Zita
FOX SPORTS


As the draft draws closer, each club will be most likely be looking to address one or more glaring weaknesses and future-proof itself as veteran stars depart.

Despite the success of some clubs, there’s always room to improve and always a diamond in the rough waiting to be found.

Foxfooty.com.au has assessed every club’s need in the upcoming draft, with the help of Champion Data.

RICHMOND

Not too much ... life after Jack

Ranked 15th for points from stoppages and 17th for clearance differential. With a club that’s won three of the last four premierships, though, it’s not exactly a glaring need to address these issues, particularly when the Tigers have shown the ability to alter their output as needed. It’s not a pressing issue yet, but getting another tall forward prospect in for life after Jack Riewoldt could be good recruiting, with Matt Allison one that could tempt the Tigers.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-what-every-club-needs-in-the-draft-draft-order-club-by-club-predictions-analysis-lists/news-story/336c96c6a3faca69c470b4d86f574561
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 05, 2020, 12:02:10 PM
Talk over past couple of days has been that Melbourne and Richmond are looking to trade top-30 picks.

Just to clarify, Dees and Tigers not necessarily trading with each other. Details in article (below).

https://twitter.com/DanielCherny

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RICHMOND

PICKS: 17, 36, 61, 79, 97.

KEY DEFENDERS: Noah Balta, David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Ryan Garthwaite, Ben Miller.
SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Jayden Short, Bachar Houli, Liam Baker, Sydney Stack, Patrick Naish.
MIDFIELDERS: Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia, Shane Edwards, Shai Bolton, Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett, Jack Ross, Thomson Dow, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Will Martyn, Hugo Ralphsmith.
KEY FORWARDS: Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt, Mabior Chol, Bigoa Nyuon.
SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli, Jake Aarts, Josh Caddy, Noah Cumberland.
RUCKS: Toby Nankervis, Ivan Soldo, Callum Coleman-Jones.


The Tigers are still reaping the rewards of outstanding drafting over a period spanning more than a decade. Their three premierships in four years serve as a reminder of what can happen if enough picks are nailed and players kick on in a good environment. Richmond traded up slightly in their deal with St Kilda in which Jack Higgins became a Saint, leaving the Tigers with pick 17. However industry sources say Richmond are actively looking to trade that selection, so keep an eye out come draft night. If they end up holding onto the selection, the likes of Brayden Cook and Bailey Laurie should fall around this neck of the woods.

The romance of the draft for Richmond comes from their impending acquistion of Maurice Rioli jnr, who chose the Tigers over Fremantle, with whom he was also eligible as a father-son player. The Northern Territory product won't, however, be taken until deep in the draft, or perhaps even as a rookie. While Jack Riewoldt played plenty of good football this year he is heading towards the twilight of his career, so perhaps a key forward like Jackson Callow or Kaine Baldwin would be a good idea deep in the draft.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/how-your-club-stands-ahead-of-the-2020-afl-national-draft-20201201-p56jpd.html
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 03:08:02 AM
AFL draft power rankings 21-40: Hidden gems your club can nab for a bargain

Matt Balmer
December 7, 2020
FOX SPORTS


Clubs are frantically doing their final preparation on draft prospects with three sleeps until the 2020 national draft.

Some clubs have tasty first-round selections, others have traded away their top picks, meaning they will be hunting the hidden gems in the latter stages of the draft pool.

Foxfooty.com.au presents its draft board with players ranked 21 to 40, with players ranked 1 to 20 to be revealed in coming days.

21. Bailey LAURIE

Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

Position: Small Forward/Midfielder


Size: 179cm/78kg

Bio: Laurie is one of the better forward half players in the draft pool and has the uncanny ability to catch the eye. His agility in tight is exceptional and has the ability to make good decisions with ball in hand. His skills are very good and he has the X-Factor many teams in 2020 are crying out for. His defensive work is also solid and Laurie is a player you can trust with ball in hand.

22. Joel JEFFREY

Clubs: Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies

Position: Key Utility

Size: 192cm/80kg

Bio: The Suns are able to pre-list Jeffrey given the concessions given to the club, making him one of two top 25 steals for the club. A key area of his game is his speed and agility, where he can provide a tough player to stop at either end of the ground. He has mostly played behind the ball, using his footy IQ and intercept skills when required. He averaged 21.7 disposals and 6.7 marks in the NAB League last season and is the son of former St Kilda and Brisbane Bears player Russell.

23. Conor STONE

Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

Position: Medium Forward

Size: 188cm/81kg

Bio: Clubs pouring through vision of Stone in 2019 will be coming across one standout match, given the forward slotted five goals on NAB League debut for the Chargers. His acceleration can help him get ahead of his opponent close to goal, with the medium tall possessing good overhead marking ability. Stone has smarts and has pinpoint accuracy from set shot attempts. Given his athletic capabilities, clubs might try and develop him to play further up the ground in the future.

24. Brayden COOK

Clubs: South Adelaide/South Australia

Position: Medium Forward

Size: 189cm/82kg

Bio: A real bolter in recent months, with Cook having a number of outstanding efforts for South Adelaide. While he has booted multiple bags of goals this season, he likely has a future in a role similar to the one Richmond’s Kamdyn McIntosh playing on the outside. He covers the ground well and his extra versatility will make him appeal to clubs in the first round.

25. Nathan O’DRISCOLL

Clubs: Perth/Western Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 187cm/78kg

Bio: The 18-year-old is a bigger frame that is made for the centre of the ground. He has a long kick and bashes his way through the contest, averaging 6.7 tackles and 16 disposals in the Under 18 Championships last year. His work at WAFL level this year has impressed AFL club recruiters and he has shown a good ability to rack up the disposals.

26. Caleb POUTLER

Clubs: Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 192cm/79kg

Bio: Poulter is one of the players who were able push their case in 2020, with the 18-year-old having a very impressive year in South Australia. The extra height will appeal to clubs with the 192cm midfielder gliding through the centre and averaging 25 disposals. He has a long kick and has shown he can hit the scoreboard. He tested reasonably well and looms as a player with plenty of upside for a club in the 15-30 mark.

27. Zane TREW

Clubs: Swan Districts/Western Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 186cm/80kg

Bio: Trew is a consistent ball winner and averaged over 24 touches in the WAFL Colts this season. His work on the inside is a big strength where he uses a good pair of clean hands to clear the ball from the stoppages. The 18-year-old also tackles hard and relishes the contest, standing up at multiple stages at key points in games.

28. Kaine BALDWIN

Clubs: Glenelg/South Australia

Position: Key Forward

Size: 193cm/90kg

Bio: Baldwin has had a tough run with injuries and could end up as a bargain for a club outside of the first round. His talent was clear at the Under 16 championships for South Australia, but has hardly been seen since. He tore his ACL at the start of 2019, before partially tearing the same ligament during a trial game at the beginning of this season. His contested marking and strength is the key traits that makes Baldwin standout, with the forward able to have an impact on a game and push further up the ground. He recently tested at the SA combine and is ready to hit an AFL pre-season hard.

29. Connor DOWNIE

Clubs: Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro

Position: Medium Defender

Size: 185cm/83kg

Bio: The Hawthorn next-generation academy member is one of the better rebounding types in the draft pool, with the 18-year-old possessing a fine left foot kick coming out of defensive 50. He has speed to burn and is willing to break the lines and get the ball moving forward at pace. Hawthorn might see a future on the wing for Downie, but he is sure to find a need at the club early in his career. His line-breaking ability should result in a bid coming for the Hawk in the second round.

30. Luke PEDLAR

Clubs: Glenelg/South Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 183cm/80kg

Bio: Pedlar is one of the stronger contested bulls in the draft pool. He has power that many other prospects don’t have, willing to fight hard to win the ball for his side. He averaged 5.3 tackles in the SANFL U18s this year and averaged 21.8 disposals. He still has some work to do on his finishing with ball in hand, but Pedlar’s key role is the win the ball from the stoppages and get it moving to goal.

31. Zavier MAHER

Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country

Position: Midfielder

Size: 184cm/83kg

Bio: The inside midfielder has plenty of interest from clubs outside the top 20 and has a really solid case. His speed and acceleration helps him burst from stoppages, while a long kick helps him get it inside 50 on regular occasions. A large chunk of his touches in 2019 were in contested situations, with the midfielder one of a number of Victorians unable to get a strong amount of runs on the board due to COVID.

32. Brandon WALKER

Clubs: East Fremantle/Western Australia

Position: Medium Defender

Size: 183cm/75kg

Bio: The Fremantle next-generation academy member has a number of key traits that have caught the eye of recruiters around the country. Walker averaged 18.5 disposals and 4.9 tackles in the WAFL Colts this season, catching the eye with his moment in the defensive half of the ground. He has a fine vertical leap which can allow him to intercept when required, while his speed also can help him break the lines.

33. Eddie FORD

Clubs: Western Jets/Vic Metro

Position: Midfielder

Size: 189cm/83kg

Bio: The forward-midfielder has plenty of X-Factor and loves to win the contested ball. He has a great ceiling and is far from the finished product. Clubs will look at Ford and think there are plenty of elements to his game they can improve, after he was unable to get on the field this season. Ford ran a sub 20m sprint at the recent combine and has shown his clean hands on the inside during games.

34. Matt ALLISON

Clubs: Calder Cannons/Vic Metro

Position: Key Forward

Size: 194cm/81kg

Bio: Allison is one of the top talls who has a stack of scope for improvement. He can get up and down the ground using his strong endurance base, which is also matched by a good acceleration when on a lead. He has been used as a midfielder on the outside at times and still has untapped potential there if a club think they can develop him further. He is very raw and his numbers in the NAB League suggest that, but there are plenty of clubs tracking the Victorian.

35. Blake COLEMAN

Clubs: Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies

Position: Small Forward

Size: 180cm/79kg

Bio: Coleman is one of the first round bolters and caught the eye of the Magpies this season. He is explosive and has speed to burn in the attacking half of the ground. He is a goal sneak and has a good footy IQ. He is the brother of Brisbane’s Keidean. Coleman’s endurance still has work to do but he is a burst player for the moment.

36. Jake BOWEY

Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

Position: Small Forward/Midfielder

Size: 175cm/67kg

Bio: Bowey is the son of former St Kilda player Brett, with the Victorian falling 15 games off being eligible to join the Saints. His classy skills in recent seasons have been one trait that has impressed clubs, with the small also performing exceptionally well in the speed and endurance tests. He has the ability to hit the scoreboard close to goal, but isn’t afraid to put his body on the line when he plays in the midfield. His stoppages work is very good and despite his size he might be pushing to play senior football in 2021.

37. Sam BERRY

Clubs: Gippsland Power/Vic Country

Position: Midfielder

Size: 181cm/80kg

Bio: Every week you know what you are going to get from Berry as the 18-year-old puts his head over the ball and wins it in the contest. He does his best work at the stoppages and wins a plethora of clearances each week, tackling hard to win it back. An elite endurance base means he can run hard all day, with Berry having averaged 17.7 disposals and 4.4 clearances.

38. Harry SHARP

Clubs: GWS Rebels/Vic Country

Position: Midfielder

Size: 183cm/69kg

Bio: Sharp is the running machine of the 2020 draft pool with the 17-year-old smashing the record for the 2km time trial. It took the former underage Australian steeplechaser just 5:28 to finish, beating Jay Rantall’s record by 22 seconds. His outside game is based on his running as he covers plenty of ground week in, week out. He also is very agile and it helps him when under pressure. Sharp is far from the finished product but he will have little catching-up to do on his running at the AFL level.

39. Liam KOLAR

Clubs: Northern Knights/Vic Metro

Position: Utility

Size: 195cm/81kg

Bio: AFL clubs certainly have plenty of interest in the 18-year-old who has turned all of his attention from soccer to AFL. The ceiling on Kolar is high and he could well end up as a top 30 selection come draft night. He has tested strongly in the endurance and speed categories in recent seasons, showing he can play as a key tall at either end or even end up on a wing. He averaged 5.5 marks in the NAB League last season.

40. Isiah WINDER

Clubs: Peel Thunder/Western Australia

Position: Small Forward/Midfielder

Size: 180cm/79kg

Bio: If clubs are looking for an explosive small forward, Winder might just be at the top of their list. The Peel Thunder prospect tested exceptionally well in the vertical leap, 20m sprint and agility test, where he finished inside the top 10. In five WAFL Colts games he averaged 28 disposals, 5.2 clearances and 5.2 tackles showing off his ability in the midfield. In the Colts Grand Final last year he slotted two goals, with clubs certainly getting a tough player with a pick outside the first round. His work in traffic is exceptional and as a defender, you will need to keep a very close eye on Winder given his ability to slot goals with ease.

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Title: Gary Buckenara’s top 50 draft prospects
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 03:11:56 AM
Buckenara ranks Maurice Rioli Jnr at 46.


Revealed: Gary Buckenara’s top 50 draft prospects

Recruiter Gary Buckenara reveals and profiles his top 50 draft prospects in order, plus names others to keep an eye on. See the most comprehensive draft talent list here, with 66 names included.

Gary Buckenara
HeraldSun
7 December 2020


We turn up the heat on some of this year's top AFL draft prospects ahead of the big day!

Key position players are set to dominate this year’s draft with several quality tall forwards and defenders expected to be taken in the top 10.

There are also a number of quality big-bodied midfielders around the 185cm-190cm mark likely to be taken reasonably early as AFL clubs look for the next Patrick Dangerfield and Dustin Martin type.

This year’s draft will be very difficult for clubs to navigate but despite cancelled seasons there’s enough exposed form for clubs to be excited about the talent available.

AFL recruiters watch and closely follow players from as early as under-15s, so clubs have had up to three years of watching these players to base their judgments on those who didn’t get the opportunity to play in 2020.

A lot can change in 12 months, however, especially in the under-18s so recruiting staff will be tested like never before on how good they are at identifying talent.

Those who have relied on videos and stats over watching players live could be exposed, while clubs that have invested in sending staff to watch games live over a long period will be far better placed to make assessments on players and will be able to produce better talent flow lists.

With no under-18s footy played in Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland and Tasmania and limited footy played in the Northern Territory, we could see more talent drafted out of South Australia and Western Australia compared to previous years, purely because players were able to showcase their skills.

An intriguing aspect of this draft surrounds mature-aged players. There are a number of recent AFL success stories in players drafted from state leagues – look no further than Tim Kelly and Rowan Marshall as examples – but with list sizes cut and little state league footy played this season, I believe mature-aged players will be the ones who suffer.

For that reason I haven’t included many state league players in my top 50 this year as opposed to previous years, with clubs likely to target delisted players for any required depth.

While it’s been difficult to make judgments, I’ve been able to put together my top 50 prospects again this year based on where I rank every player – this is not a phantom draft and doesn’t take into account which clubs have which picks.

My rankings are based purely on talent and who I rate as the best players in this draft.

In the last three drafts, approximately 45 players from my top 50 have either been drafted or rookie-listed each year, which is a pretty good strike rate, but this year is much tougher.

Good luck to all the players who have nominated, I’m excited to see who gets to live their dream.

GARY BUCKENARA’S TOP 50 DRAFT PROSPECTS

1. JAMARRA UGLE-HAGAN

194cm, 84kg, Oakleigh Chargers/South Warrnambool, key forward

Ugle-Hagan has all the strengths to be a brilliant key forward. What makes him such an exciting prospect is that he’s very quick and agile for a player of his size and he possesses a big leap, which makes him even harder to defend in the air. These attributes are very hard to find in players over 190cm, so he’s an extremely exciting prospect and it’s why the consensus is that, at this stage of development, he’s the most talented player in the draft. What a gift this is for the Bulldogs as a Next Generation Academy product.

2. RILEY THILTHORPE

201cm, 100kg, West Adelaide/Goodwood Saints, key forward

A tall, versatile and athletic key position player, Thilthorpe is clearly among the best players in this draft. He played senior football in the SANFL this year, which has provided very good grounding for him as he prepares to enter the elite level. He’s had some groin issues but they appear to be under control. I expect Adelaide will pick him after placing a bid with pick No.1 on Ugle-Hagan, which the Bulldogs will match. Lock this South Australian away, Crows.

3. DENVER GRAINGER-BARRAS

195cm, 78kg, Swan Districts/Kalamunda, key defender

Grainger-Barras has the traits AFL recruiters are looking for in key defenders – he’s competitive, very good in the air, reads the play well and has that burst of speed all good defenders have. He’s got the attributes to develop into a quality key defender at AFL level. An exciting prospect.

4. LOGAN McDONALD

196cm, 86kg, Perth/Aquinas College, key forward

The top end of this draft features a number of quality key position players and McDonald is another one. His biggest assets are his marking ability and his willingness to compete. I like his potential as he’s a very good all-round player who reads the flight of the ball extremely well and while he needs to add some muscle to his frame, he’s one of the best key forwards in this draft even though I’ve rated two others ahead of him.

5. OLIVER HENRY

188cm, 76kg, Geelong Falcons/St Marys/St Joseph’s College, forward/utility

Brother of Geelong defender Jack Henry, Oliver can play in multiple positions including in defence and through the midfield but he’s best suited as a medium forward. He’s a dangerous player at ground level, can take a good mark, is a clean ball handler and makes good decisions. He’s the type of player you want in attacking positions.

6. ELIJAH HOLLANDS

189cm, 85kg, Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga, midfielder

Hollands is a real talent. At one stage he was considered the potential No.1 pick before he unfortunately tore his ACL last year, which puts a little question mark on him. I still see him as the best midfielder in this draft – his penetrating kick is a great weapon and he’s got the footy smarts to match, so he can use it to really hurt the opposition by creating opportunities for his teammates. He’s an outstanding prospect.

7. ZACH REID

202cm, 82kg, Gippsland Power/Leongatha, key defender

Reid was used at both ends of the ground and in the ruck for Gippsland Power in 2019 but he seems most comfortable behind the ball as a defender. He’s a competitive tall who uses his height and strength well and has a good pair of hands. At 202cm, his height makes him an interesting and exciting prospect and it will be intriguing to see where he ends up from a positional point of view at AFL level. He could be a valuable defender if he can adapt his skillset to the elite level and become the defender all clubs wish they had to play on the really tall forwards like Tom Lynch, Joe Daniher and Eric Hipwood.

8. ARCHIE PERKINS

186cm, 77kg, Sandringham Dragons/Brighton Grammar, midfielder/forward

Perkins has really good traits. Whether it be his speed, competitiveness or kicking ability, he brings a lot to the table as a dangerous midfielder or clever forward. I have no doubt he’ll be taken early in this draft, I like him a lot.

9. BRAEDEN CAMPBELL

180cm, 73kg, Sydney Swans Academy, midfielder

Once again the Swans have a very exciting prospect coming through their Academy and ready to join Isaac Heeney and Callum Mills as graduates taken in the top 10. Campbell has great kicking skills, speed, endurance and is exactly the type of player Sydney really need in their list model. His traits are exciting and he’ll be a nice addition to the midfield alongside Heeney, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker and James Rowbottom.

10. TANNER BRUHN

183cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons/Newtown/Geelong Grammar, midfielder

Bruhn is a classy player with great footy nous – a trait that can be underrated in today’s footy due to an over-reliance on stats. He had a few problems with his knee in 2019 but the cancellation of the NAB League season would have done him no harm as it’s provided him with plenty of time to get that right. While it’s always a worry for clubs when a young player injures his knee, his class will see many overlook that. A lock to be taken in the first round.

11. ALEX DAVIES

191cm, 85kg, Gold Coast Suns Academy, midfielder

Davies is a tall inside midfielder with good hands and a large frame, so looks an ideal type to play as a big-bodied midfielder. He has a basketball background and is very agile – two aspects we know are really handy in the AFL. He looks to be a nice prospect and the Suns won’t let him slip, they’ll match the bid placed.

12. LACHLAN JONES

185cm, 88kg, Woodville-West Torrens/Bute Paskville, defender/midfielder

A defender/midfielder, Jones has been playing and seemed comfortable in the SANFL as a defender. He has a strong body, is a good kick and makes good decisions with the ball, which is what you want from a player in your back half. Port Adelaide has first option to draft him as a Next Generation Academy prospect.

13. WILL PHILLIPS

180cm, 79kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Caulfield Grammar, midfielder

Phillips is a quality midfielder who uses the ball well and makes good decisions. He played well in last year’s NAB League Grand Final and there’s no doubt recruiters will look favourably on that performance as clubs are always looking for players who can perform in big games. He’s had a niggling knee injury but overall the rest this year won’t hurt him – he’s got some good form on the board from previous years. Recruiters will like what he brings to the table.

14. REEF McINNES

192cm, 84kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Scotch College, midfielder

McInnes is a tall, agile and big-bodied midfielder who can also play as a forward. That versatility combined with his size at 192cm, means there’s a lot to like and be excited about as a player I can see developing into a strong AFL player in the future. Collingwood has first option on him as a member of their Next Generation Academy and I’m sure they’ll match the bid that comes.

15. FINLAY MACRAE

184cm, 75kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Xavier College, midfielder

The younger brother of Bulldogs star Jack Macrae, Finlay possesses a lot of similar traits. He uses the ball very well and generally makes good decisions in traffic without panicking. I like the look of him and I’m sure he’ll have plenty of admirers.

16. ERROL GULDEN

175cm, 75kg, Sydney Swans Academy/Maroubra Saints, midfielder/forward

Gulden is very small but he makes up for his lack of size with footy smarts similar to Bulldog Caleb Daniel. He’s already played senior NEAFL football and was very good for the Allies and Sydney Academy. The Swans will obviously take a very close look at him as he has a lot to offer with his footy nous and is a very nice user of the ball.

17. JOEL JEFFREY

192cm, 80kg, Wanderers/Gold Coast Suns Academy, forward/defender

Jeffrey is a talent and will be eligible to join Gold Coast as an Academy player after the Suns gained access to Darwin through list concessions from the AFL. He’s a very nice size at 192cm, while he’s quick, agile and has reasonable skills. There is an x-factor about him and while he’ll take some time to develop and mature, I expect the Suns will snap him up.

18. NIK COX

199cm, 82kg, Northern Knights/Montmorency, key forward/defender

An athletic tall with big upside, in time I think Cox will be the perfect forward/ruck prospect every club is desperate to find. He’s a project player because he has a very light frame and needs to put on some size but these types of players are extremely hard to find and a club will be keen to lock him away early due to his potential. Patience will be the key here but the upside looks really good.

19. HEATH CHAPMAN

193cm, 81kg, West Perth/Joondalup-Kinross, key defender

Chapman is a nice third tall defender for the future. He reads the play well and uses that to get into good positions to take intercept marks, which is one of his biggest strengths. He has a good degree of footy intelligence and looks a nice prospect.

20. BRAYDEN COOK

188cm, 80kg, South Adelaide/Happy Valley FC, utility

Cook has certainly made the most of the opportunity to show off his credentials this year when many others have had their seasons cancelled. He was a standout at under-18 level for the Panthers and has a bit of x-factor. Cook has shown a lot of traits that will appeal to clubs, particularly his running ability, strong marking and good skills. He looks as though he’ll fill out and be a really nice size for an AFL player.

21. NATHAN O’DRISCOLL

187cm, 76kg, Perth/Northern Saints, midfielder/defender

O’Driscoll is a tough, strong-bodied midfielder who is good at stoppages but can also be used as a rebound defender because he’s a clever player who generally makes smart decisions with ball in hand. He’s a really competitive type and clubs will like that about him.

22. ZANE TREW

185cm, 80kg, Swan Districts/Hill Rangers, midfielder

A strong-bodied inside midfielder who is very competitive and has great repeat efforts, Trew knows how to find the footy and rack up big numbers. He’s one of a strong group of midfielders available this year.

23. CALEB POULTER

191cm, 77kg, Woodville-West Torrens/Ardrossan, midfielder/defender

Poulter has been very good this year and to me looks an ideal rebound defender. He’s an elite kick, reads the play well and is a real playmaker as things tend to happen when he has the ball in his hands. I’m sure he’ll have many admirers come draft night.

24. TOM POWELL

180cm, 73kg, Sturt, midfielder

Powell is one of the best midfield prospects coming out of South Australia and reminds me of a young Lachie Neale. He finds the ball well and is a playmaker who plays just as well as an inside midfielder as he does as an outside runner. He still has a few flaws in his game and can tend to overuse the footy by hand but he’s a natural footballer who had a very good 2020 season.

25. JACK CARROLL

188cm, 79kg, East Fremantle/Geraldton, midfielder/defender

Carroll is a bit of a bolter and is one who greatly benefitted from being able to play this year. At 188cm he looks a nice prospect who should end up being a good size for an AFL player. I think he’ll play as a rebound defender or an outside midfielder as he uses the ball well, a trait clubs are obviously looking for in today’s footy.

26. KAINE BALDWIN

193cm, 92kg, Glenelg/Henley, key forward

Baldwin is a real talent but after two serious knee injuries there’s a big question mark on him. He’s shown so much ability when he’s played in previous years and without those injuries, he’d be a monty as a first-round selection. He’s a tough contested player with great hands, reads the play very well, is athletic and has good skills that make him a very nice potential key forward or even high half forward. I’m sure he’ll be drafted but the club that picks him will need to be patient and give him time to get his knee right.

27. BRANDON WALKER

184cm, 75kg, East Fremantle/Kardinya Cats, defender

Walker is a Fremantle Next Generation Academy player. The Dockers will try to downplay his potential to discourage an early bid but with speed, agility, good vertical leap, clean hands and nice skills, it’s hard not to see an early bid coming. Fremantle would be mad not to match.

28. CODY BRAND

195cm, 85kg, Calder Cannons/PEGS, key defender

A developing tall defender who brings competitiveness, a good pair of hands and nice skills, Brand also reads the play well. As an Essendon Next Generation Academy player, he’s exactly what the Bombers need for their future list model. I can see him developing nicely and becoming a good key position defender.

29. LUKE EDWARDS

187cm, 83kg, Glenelg/Henley, midfielder/defender

The son of dual Adelaide premiership player Tyson Edwards, Luke was eligible as a father-son selection for the Crows but the club didn’t nominate him. He had a very good NAB carnival as a bottom age player in 2019 and this year has played some senior footy in the SANFL. He’s a good decision maker with nice skills and overall looks to be a promising player.

30. ZACH DUMESNY

187cm, 79kg, South Adelaide/Sacred Heard College, utility

Dumesny played at senior level for South Adelaide this year where he showed just how versatile he is by playing in all three areas of the ground. He’s a genuine utility, which provides him with a leg up when recruiters are assessing players and weighing up who to pick – clubs love players who provide flexibility. What also makes him an attractive prospect is that he reads the play well and uses the ball to good effect.
Title: Re: Gary Buckenara’s top 50 draft prospects
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 03:12:55 AM
Continued:

31. SEAMUS MITCHELL

181cm, 74kg, Bendigo/Robinvale Euson FC, midfielder

Mitchell will have plenty of admirers in this draft and it won’t surprise me if he goes earlier than this. He’s been likened to Zac Williams as he has lots of exciting traits with his speed, evasive skills, ball use and his love of taking the game on. He’s a bit of a wildcard but I’m sure he’ll find a spot on an AFL list for 2021.

32. NICK STEVENS

191cm, 82kg, Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Geelong Grammar, midfielder/defender

Stevens is a really nice player who combined playing for Geelong Grammar with NAB League last year. He looks to be a very nice prospect as he reads the flight of the ball well, is disciplined, competitive, makes good decisions and from all reports is a good lad who’s very professional in preparing to get the best out of himself. He’ll be a nice rebound defender or midfielder.

33. CHARLIE HAM

181cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons/St Marys, defender/midfielder

Brother of Essendon midfielder Brayden Ham, Charlie is a potential midfielder or wingman. He has some exciting attributes that will be attractive to clubs – he likes to take the game on when he wins the ball, is a nice left foot kick and has genuine speed.

34. ZAVIER MAHER

184cm, 82kg, Murray Bushrangers/Caulfield Grammar, midfielder

Maher played at the Bushrangers last year and also won the best and fairest for Caulfield Grammar. An inside midfielder with speed and strength, a slight knee injury limited his start to pre-season but the cancelled season would have given him the opportunity to get himself right. There’s a fair bit of interest in him from clubs.

35. JACK GINNIVAN

182cm, 76kg, Bendigo Pioneers, forward/midfielder

Ginnivan has been likened to Toby Greene with his football nous and uncanny traits. He’s still very raw and will need time but he does look a nice prospect who’s already received a lot of interest from clubs. He might need to put on some size but there’s an x-factor about him and he has big upside as a forward or midfielder.

36. COREY DURDIN

173cm, 72kg, Central District, forward/midfielder

Durdin has been playing senior SANFL footy since midway through 2019 and while he’s very small at just 173cm, he has displayed some quality football, particularly with his decision making and footy smarts. He’s not unlike Caleb Daniel in size and the way he plays – he’s quick, has good skills on both sides and is dangerous around goal. There is a need for this type of player on all lists and I’m sure clubs will give him a lot of consideration.

37. MANI LIDDY

183cm, 77kg, Sturt, midfielder/forward

Liddy will be on the radar of several clubs after playing well in the under-18 competition in South Australia this year. He’s a smart player and as a goalkicking midfielder, he’ll have plenty of admirers as we know how valuable it is to have midfielders in your team who kick goals. He should develop a nice frame in time and from all reports is a very professional young man that leaves no stone unturned in his preparation to get the best out of himself and his teammates.

38. OLIVER DAVIS

182cm, 75kg, Tasmania Devils/Clarence, midfielder

A strong and hard at it midfielder, Davis won the best and fairest for Tasmania in the NAB League last year and has impressed this season playing senior football for Clarence. He’s very competitive, has good skills and makes good decisions. He’s one of Tasmania’s best chances of getting an AFL opportunity this year.

39. JAMES ROWE

173cm, 73kg, Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia, forward

Rowe is one of those clever small players who has missed out on being drafted for the past three years and his story is another one of persistence. He hasn’t given up on his dream despite being overlooked. He played very well this year and any club in the market for a young but mature small forward with great goalkicking ability – he’s a beautiful kick and accurate set shot – should take a good look at him.

40. HENRY WALSH

202cm, 86kg, Geelong Falcons/St Joseph’s College/St Marys, ruckman

Walsh is the brother of Carlton’s Sam Walsh and at 202cm they’re obviously completely different players. Henry has developed well over the last year or so and was a member of the under-17 AFL Academy. Given his size and potential, clubs will definitely look at him closely as a developing young ruckman but he’ll take a bit of time as most young developing talls/rucks do. He has pretty good skills for a big lad, so I’m sure he’ll find a home.

41. JOSH TREACY

193cm, 95kg, Bendigo Pioneers/Cohuna FC, key forward

Treacy is a real competitor who played as a key forward for Bendigo in the NAB League last year but I think he’ll be more of a third tall forward option at AFL level. A member of the under-17 AFL Academy, he brings real competitiveness to his game, is a nice kick and has very strong hands. He’s a likely type that will be on the radar of clubs looking for a competitive high half forward.

42. ZAC PHILLIPS

200cm, 80kg, Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia, ruckman

Phillips is a project ruckman who might have a very big upside but will take a while to develop as he’s very raw at present. For his size he’s an incredible athlete and clubs looking for a developing ruckman will definitely be looking at him. He’s most likely going to go a lot earlier than my ranking as he did very well in the testing.

43. SAM BERRY

180cm, 82kg, Gippsland Power/Melbourne Grammar, midfielder/forward

Berry is a good inside midfielder who distributes best by hand. He was very impressive as an under-age player last year for Gippsland in the NAB League but the area of concern is his kicking ability – if he wants to become an AFL player that’s the area he must improve. He’s similar to Ed Curnow, while hard at it his disposal in his early days let him down but he worked on it and has become a satisfactory kick. This is what Berry needs to work on.

44. BLAKE COLEMAN

180cm, 78kg, Morningside/Brisbane Lions Academy, forward

Coleman is a very exciting prospect. He’s a really classy finisher and just looks like a natural footballer much like his brother, Lion Keidean Coleman. He’ll take some time to develop but as a Brisbane Academy player, the Lions will be excited by his talent and I’m sure will match a bid to have him join his brother at the club.

45. BAILEY LAURIE

180cm, 75kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Beverley Hills/Caulfield Grammar, utility

Laurie could go much earlier than this. He developed into a very good utility for the Oakleigh Chargers last year and players who can play in a variety of positions are always highly sought after because having these types on your list provides so much flexibility. He needs to grow a bit and put on some size but as a mid-sized utility who’s very competitive and uses the ball well, clubs will be interested.

46. MAURICE RIOLI (JUNIOR)

179cm, 75kg, St Marys/Scotch College, forward

Rioli is a small forward who has a bit of that Rioli magic but still has a lot of areas to improve on in his game. He has potential upside – speed, smarts, skill and x-factor – and as the son of Richmond and South Fremantle great Maurice Rioli, he was eligible at both the Tigers and Dockers under father-son rules. He’s chosen Richmond and I’m sure the Tigers will snap him up but it will be interesting to see where a bid comes.

47. CONOR STONE

188cm, 82kg, Oakleigh Chargers/St Kevin’s, forward

Stone is a player that has really good athleticism and football ability that could be worth looking at as a developing project player who could eventually play as a third tall forward or defender. At 188cm and 82kg he has a nice frame that will get really strong once in an AFL environment, while his speed and leap are there for clubs to crystal ball on how he might look in 3-4 years. A smokey but there could be big upside.

48. DOMINIC BEDENDO

188cm, 74kg, Murray Bushrangers/Myrtleford, midfielder

Bedendo is a wingman who has real x-factor with his athleticism. He had a good bottom age year with the Murray Bushrangers last year and was impressive at the Victorian National Combine where he showed his athletic ability. A project player who will need time to put weight on his frame but he’s got some class.

49. SAXON CROZIER

190cm, 80kg, Morningside/Brisbane Lions Academy, midfielder

Another Brisbane Academy player, Crozier is a tall midfielder who shows good dash and likes to take on his opponents with his run and long kicking. He showed some nice athletic traits at the combine testing and I’m sure Brisbane will be looking closely at him.

50. CLAYTON GAY

184cm, 78kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Hastings, midfielder/forward

Gay has a lovely penetrating kick and a very good pair of hands for his size. He has a bit of class and with his footy smarts, can be very dangerous as a forward. He’s a player I see as having genuine upside in a full-time football environment.



OTHER PLAYERS IN THE MIX TO BE DRAFTED OR ROOKIE LISTED (Listed in no particular order)

ISIAH WINDER

179cm, 79kg, Peel Thunder/Eaton Boomers, forward/midfielder

Winder has raw ability and exciting traits, particularly in the defensive side of his game with his speed to apply pressure and leap. He definitely has x-factor and if he gets himself fit, he might just be the real smokey of this draft. Played some WAFL footy this year.

BRODIE LAKE

185cm, 79kg, Southern Districts/Central District, midfielder

Lake has done everything right in 2020. He played some good SANFL footy for Central Districts and was one of the best players in a trial game late in the year. He’s super quick with great agility, traits that will excite clubs. I expect some strong interest in him.

TARIEK NEWCHURCH

185cm, 72kg, North Adelaide/Port Augusta, midfielder/forward

Newchurch is a very talented and exciting prospect who is eligible to be picked by Adelaide as part of their Next Generation Academy. He’s very raw at the moment but if he can dedicate himself to his football, the sky is the limit for him. His highlight package is very impressive but of course they’re “highlights” and it takes far more than a good highlights package to be successful in the AFL. If the Crows can nurture and develop him, they could have a star in the making.

CARTER MICHAEL

188cm, 74kg, Maroochydore/Brisbane Lions Academy, midfielder

Michael is a nice left foot kick, has good pace, footy smarts and generally makes good decisions. He’s eligible to join Brisbane as an Academy player and I’d be surprised if the Lions passed on him. He’s the prototype midfielder with a body that should develop nicely in time.

SAM COLLINS

187cm, 79kg, Tasmania Devils/North Hobart, defender

Collins is a potential third tall defender with really good kicking skills. His ability to read the ball in flight is one of his biggest strengths, so I believe he could be a good intercepting defender similar to Geelong’s Tom Stewart. He’d be a nice project player to have on your list as intercept defenders are worth their weight in gold.

JACKSON CALLOW

194cm, 101kg, Tasmania/North Launceston, key forward

Callow played well for Tasmania during the under-18 Academy Series. He’s one of the stronger key forwards in this draft and is also clean at ground level. The question mark is on his repeat efforts and fitness to be able to play as a high half forward and cope with the stronger bodies at AFL level. While he was able to monster players of his own age due to his strength, it will be harder to do that at AFL level but he has some nice attributes to work with and it would be no surprise to see a club give him an opportunity.

JAKE BOWEY

175cm, 66kg, Sandringham Dragons/Highett, forward/midfield

Bowey is an elite kick who has great awareness and even though he has a very light frame at present, I think he’s a nice longer-term project. He’s the son of former Saint Brett Bowey but does not qualify as a father-son selection. He’s a smart forward and a playmaker when in the midfield.

SHANNON NEALE

202cm, 91kg, South Fremantle/Leeming SHS, ruck/forward

Neale is one of the ruck/forward options in this year’s draft. He’s a mobile type who’ll definitely be a project player but given the need for developing ruckman around the competition, I’m sure many clubs in the market for a developing ruckman with a long-term view will have him on their list as a potential recruit.

JOEL WESTERN

171cm, 64kg, Claremont/Western Tigers, midfielder

Western is a potential Academy player for Fremantle who had a solid season this year playing at Claremont in the Colts competition and was one of the best afield in a losing team in the grand final. He’s a neat player but lightly framed, so I think he’s a rookie chance as it’ll take a while for him to put on size.

NOAH GRIBBLE

180cm, 75kg, Geelong Falcons, midfielder/forward

Gribble is a small midfielder/forward who reads the game well and uses his running power and footy smarts to set up the play. He’s a ball magnet who unfortunately did his ACL during the pre-season but should be right to go by the start of the 2021 season. It will be interesting to see whether a club will take him or wait to see a full year of football from him.

EWAN MACHPERSON

179cm, 82kg, Northern Knights/Diamond Creek, defender/midfielder

Macpherson is a small defender/midfielder who reads the flight of the ball very well and has the ability to intercept, defend his man and provide good rebound as I like his kicking skills. The son of former Western Bulldogs star Steve Macpherson and brother of Gold Coast’s Darcy, he’s eligible under father-son rules at the Bulldogs.

COREY PRESTON

182cm, 77kg, Eastern Ranges/Ferntree Gully, forward/midfielder

Preston is a medium-sized forward/midfielder who is a smokey in this draft. He really showed some good traits in the trial matches for the Eastern Ranges this year before the COVID shutdown. He takes a strong mark and has very good kicking ability and goal sense.

MAX HOLMES

189cm, 74kg, Sandringham Dragons/Melbourne Grammar, defender/midfielder

Holmes is the son of dual Olympian and Commonwealth Games Gold Medallist Lee Naylor. He’s an elite athlete, which was his path early on before deciding to have a crack at footy where he’s shown enough talent to become a player who, given his athletic traits, could have big upside.

TAJ SCHOFIELD

178cm, 72kg, Woodville-West Torrens/Henley, midfielder/forward

Schofield is a midfielder/forward who’s a clever player but will take some time to develop a body ready for AFL footy. The son of former West Coast and Port Adelaide player Jarrad Schofield, he’s eligible under father-son rules at the Power.

PHOENIX SPICER

173cm, 64kg, South Adelaide/Morphettville Park, midfielder/forward

A small midfielder/forward who has elite pace and agility, Spicer has traits that could excite clubs. He’s a project player as he’s very slight at just 64kg, so will need time to adjust to playing against bigger bodies. He showed some nice traits in 2019 and is a smokey in this draft.

THOMAS GRAHAM

192cm, 85kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Central Districts, utility

The son of former Hawthorn and Richmond player Mark Graham, Thomas is a very late developer who has flown under the radar as he’s only been playing footy seriously for a couple of years. He played a few games for Oakleigh last year and after the NAB League season was cancelled this year, he went over to Adelaide to play with John Platten’s Central Districts in the reserves. He has great athleticism and can play just about anywhere – he even played in the ruck as he has a great leap. Given he’s a late developer, he’s a project player at 20 years of age who’d definitely be a good rookie option. He’s gone up to Darwin to play NTFL with the Waratahs to get more game experience before Christmas.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/recruiter-gary-buckenara-names-his-top-50-prospects-for-the-2020-afl-draft/news-story/80f564a4e5c1efa9f037b83031bda197
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 03:13:30 AM
AFL Draft tier list and top-50 (really top-75) power rankings 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INiMxTZm3i4
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
RICHMOND

Is this their chance to find Jack Riewoldt’s eventual replacement?


The Tigers didn’t do much in the trade period, but they did use the Jack Higgins trade to upgrade their first-round pick, moving from 21 up to 17. That’s right around the range they nabbed a future triple Coleman medallist back in 2006. It would make sense to try and find a Jack Riewoldt type with their selection, and given they’ve got an incredibly strong and deep list, they can opt for a tall who won’t be ready right away. The 194cm Matt Allison, who has shown flashes and athletic talent but needs more time to develop, makes some sense.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-burning-draft-questions-analysis-every-clubs-biggest-question-draft-picks-top-prospects-latest-news/news-story/a4508792c0a492161336c6ee430b3095
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 01:52:29 PM
Unless they think a bid will come early for MRJ I would be disappointed if we traded out of this draft.  There looks to be some good mids available at 17 based on the phantoms.
I do think pick 17 plus MRJ would do though.  Keep a spot open or go in with the minimum list.
This may be the reason (if we are) as to why we are considering trading out of this year's draft for the 2021 draft.

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One expert said players selected from 11-20 on Wednesday would probably fit in around pick 30-40 next year.

“I would say next year’s group exceeds this year’s group by a whole round,” he said.

The 2021 crop is already choc-full of gun midfielders, including Jason Horne (South Adelaide), Tyler Sonsie (Eastern), Josh Sinn, Campbell Chesser, Blake Howes (Sandringham), Ben Hobbs (Ballarat) and Cooper Murley (Norwood).

Source: HeraldSun
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: mightytiges on December 07, 2020, 02:42:38 PM
Unless they think a bid will come early for MRJ I would be disappointed if we traded out of this draft.  There looks to be some good mids available at 17 based on the phantoms.
I do think pick 17 plus MRJ would do though.  Keep a spot open or go in with the minimum list.
This may be the reason (if we are) as to why we are considering trading out of this year's draft for the 2021 draft.

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One expert said players selected from 11-20 on Wednesday would probably fit in around pick 30-40 next year.

“I would say next year’s group exceeds this year’s group by a whole round,” he said.

The 2021 crop is already choc-full of gun midfielders, including Jason Horne (South Adelaide), Tyler Sonsie (Eastern), Josh Sinn, Campbell Chesser, Blake Howes (Sandringham), Ben Hobbs (Ballarat) and Cooper Murley (Norwood).

Source: HeraldSun
Collingwood's 2021 first rounder would be the one to chase if we go down that path. They don't need it to draft the next Daicos brother as F/S and the Pies could easily fall away next year given their senior player firesale.

A potential swap could be our pick 17 (which will be pick 21 after bids) for their future first rounder. If we need to we could also throw in a future 3rd as we have two of them (our own & St Kilda's).


All up from the swap we would get two first rounders in next year's strong draft including the possibility of a top 10 or even top 5 if the Pies have a shocker in 2021. This would be in addition to getting the youngest Naish as F/S. Allow us to stock up our list with the best youth on the run while we are still challenging and avoid the 'cliff'.

The Pies would still get Daicos in next year's draft matching any early first round bid with the points from later picks and if we chuck in a future 3rd they could use that as points towards drafting Daicos. They could also use this year's 16+17 for a swap with say Essendon's pick 8 to move up the draft order as reported they want to do.

I hate the idea of helping the Pies but it would be a favourable offer they would seriously consider and it would be a win-win situation IMV. Long term it would be beneficial for us. Help us towards a quicker rebuild for when we will need to replace all our veteran stars once this premiership(s) window shuts.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 04:47:44 PM
Have a look at Liam Kolar and let me know your thoughts ( late round)
Liam Kolar

(https://cdn.draftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2002/04/Liam-Kolar-NK-2019-NAB-League.jpg)
Image Credit: Andy Brownbill/News Corp

Height:            195cm
Weight:             82kg
Current Team:   Northern Knights
Birthday:          April 23, 2002

POSITION: Key Forward/Wing

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “A raw multi-sport athlete with high scope for improvement, Kolar looms as a prospective bolter in this year’s draft pool.” – Michael Alvaro

Having transitioned to football from a soccer and athletics background, Northern Knights prospect Liam Kolar has enjoyed a steep rise in his short career. The 195cm athlete made the most of a late call-up on NAB League debut last year, showing glimpses of his potential up forward and even rotating through the ruck. His form was enough to warrant playing out the remaining two games with Northern, but a couple of strong preseason outings in 2020 truly cemented Kolar’s spot on the AFL Draft radar. The 18-year-old’s testing data would have turned heads, and makes for a solid base for him to improve his football upon. Though unable to show his wares on-field as a top-ager, Kolar earned a National Combine invite and is a talent to keep an eye on.

STRENGTHS:

Vertical leap
Athleticism
Endurance
Versatility
Scope

IMPROVEMENTS:

Raw/strength
Football craft

Despite the small sample size provided, it is clear that Kolar boasts all the athletic attributes which recruiters value. He ticks every box; as a lead-up key forward he is quick off the mark and has a sizeable vertical leap, while also proving agile enough to operate further afield and impact at ground level. His endurance base, highlighted by preseason results of 6:09 across 2km and 21.7 in the yo-yo test, also suits the modern game in a range of roles. It ultimately plays into Kolar’s versatility, with the potential to utilise that running capacity and speed up on a wing once his game sense improves. His effort to come into Northern’s side so late last season, adjust to the rigours, and compete against players who had been out there consistently is also testament to his elite athletic attributes – not to mention a high rate of improvement.

Outgoing Knights talent manager Rhy Gieschen identified Kolar as one to watch during preseason, noting his unique all-round athleticism and raw potential. One particular moment in preseason stood out, playing against reigning the NAB League premier, Oakleigh. In a Northern win, Kolar dashed forward with multiple running bounces, burned an opponent and thumped home one of his two goals from 50 metres out. Having returned a relatively low output in his initial Under 18s stint, such eye-catching plays are what make those at the top level take notice.

While he would prove somewhat of a speculative choice come draft time, Kolar could really be anything if provided the right support. The next and most significant step in his development will be to hone his football knowledge and craft, things which typically come with experience. After all, it is all well and good being able to run, jump, and weave, but you must be able to play the game above all else. Kolar has adjusted well to the elite Under 18s pathway, so should have confidence in his ability to maintain that trend as he climbs the ranks. Whether Kolar develops into a modern day centre half-forward, wingman, or mobile utility, there is plenty for AFL clubs to work with.

There are still a few things Kolar may look to enhance as he improves his overall craft. Somewhat rangy and lightly built, his one-on-one positioning and strength will be important for key position roles, while also allowing him to utilise his athleticism more effectively. His speed off the mark and vertical leap would be an unstoppable combination when presenting at the ball, but Kolar is sometimes caught behind or in a spot where he is unable to leap at the ball. These are things a few preseasons and experience at the top level will easily fix. Understanding the right leading patterns and when to take the game on from further afield will also come more naturally to him over time, hopefully aiding his overall output and consistency in the process.

DRAFT PROJECTION: Late-Rookie

It would take a brave club to back in the Northern Knights product with just three games of NAB League football under his belt, though Kolar’s elite athletic base across each department has many high on his potential. Having earned a National Combine invite, Kolar is clearly in the frame as a draft chance and has piqued the interest of recruiters. His lack of runs on the board has him pitted as a very late or rookie possibility at this point, and he would be a long-term choice made on upside. Given the NAB League’s extension to an Under-19 competition, Kolar could also be one to set the Victorian ranks alight should he miss out in 2020.

HIGHLIGHTED TESTING RESULTS:

Preseason:
Running Vertical Jump (R/L) – 83cm/82cm
Speed (20m) – 3.04 seconds
Endurance (yo-yo) – 21.7

NAB League Boys
Season   Team   K   HB   D   M   CP   UP   T   HO   CLR   I50   R50   GL   GM   K   H   D   M   HO   T   G   DC
2019   Northern Knights   10   6   16   8   3   12   4   1   0   5   0   1   3   3.3   2.0   5.3   2.7   0.3   1.3   0.3   28

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/liam-kolar/

"Seems like we are keen on Liam Kolar.
This would mean, if I am reading the tea leaves correctly, that we are willing to trade our pick 17 for pick in next year's draft and take Kolar with a downgraded pick.
That would mean we would take two 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders into the 2021 draft."


https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-2020-discussion.1251427/post-68195158
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: camboon on December 07, 2020, 04:49:45 PM
I also think some good player may slip through this year as we don’t know what level the Vic kids are at. Take a punt with a late pick may pay off
Our recruiters are very good these days
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2020, 04:50:26 PM
Q. How big is the talk that the tigers are going to trade off their first pick for extra picks this year or next year? Would think that we need to take at least a tall to start to develop.

Chris Doerre (Knightmare on BF): Talls at 17 are uninspiring. Late draft is where I'd be recommending Richmond take talls. Callow should be available late. Baldwin could be there late second round.

I see Richmond exploring their options if not satisfied with options at 17 and talking about a trade if there is something suitable. Some have connected Matt Allison to Richmond with their first pick, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was there at the second pick.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmare-2020-draft-almanac.1234618/post-68195067
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 08, 2020, 03:27:50 AM
Our later picks according to Callum Twomey on the AFL website:

RICHMOND

Picks: 17, 36, 61, 79, 96, 108 (likely to use two or three selections)

The Tigers will be a club to keep an eye on with their picks. They could still slide out of the first round and trade into the future depending which players are available. If they hold their selections, Richmond will weigh up whether to use one or two more after the first-rounder. They will snap up father-son pick Maurice Rioli jnr with their last pick if no bid comes for the talented youngster, while the Tigers have also had a look at Tariek Newchurch, who is tied to Adelaide's Next Generation Academy. Richmond hasn't been afraid to dip into rival Academies before. Wingman Ryan Angwin is another potential option, while Max Holmes will be considered in the chance he's available in the 30s. The Tigers were interested in adding to their ruck division during the Trade Period, and Queenslander Samson Ryan could be a shot late.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/527263/cal-twomey-s-2020-phantom-draft-top-30-late-picks-your-club-s-whispers
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 08, 2020, 10:23:43 PM
FOXSPORTS: Full AFL phantom draft: Every pick by every club predicted by our draft expert

The 2020 AFL national draft is finally here.

But getting information this close to the event is the hardest it’s been in recent years, given the lack of games and clubs wanting to keep their cards close to their chest.

Don’t rule out a number of major changes to the order as clubs do shrewd trades during the event - and all the night needs is one bolter to shake up everyone’s options.

In this mock draft, Academy and father-son bids have been included, which will see clubs slide up and down the draft order. Passes have also been removed, with a record low number of picks likely to be taken.

Foxfooty.com.au predicts the entire draft and how it will pan out, with the inside word on who your club could be taking and why.

PICK 1: WESTERN BULLDOGS – JAMARRA UGLE-HAGAN (BID MATCHED)

PICK 2: ADELAIDE CROWS – LOGAN MCDONALD

PICK 3: NORTH MELBOURNE - ELIJAH HOLLANDS

PICK 4: SYDNEY SWANS – DENVER GRAINGER-BARRAS

PICK 5: HAWTHORN - RILEY THILTHORPE

PICK 6: GOLD COAST SUNS - WILL PHILLIPS

PICK 7: ESSENDON – ARCHIE PERKINS

PICK 8: ESSENDON – NIK COX

PICK 9: SYDNEY SWANS – BRAEDEN CAMPBELL (BID MATCHED)

PICK 10: ESSENDON - TANNER BRUHN

PICK 11: ADELAIDE CROWS – FINLAY MACRAE

PICK 12: GWS GIANTS - ZACH REID

PICK 13: NORTH MELBOURNE – TOM POWELL

PICK 14: FREMANTLE – HEATH CHAPMAN

PICK 15: PORT ADELAIDE – LACHIE JONES (BID MATCHED)

PICK 16: COLLINGWOOD – REEF MCINNES (BID MATCHED)

PICK 17: GWS GIANTS – OLIVER HENRY

PICK 18: GWS GIANTS – BAILEY LAURIE

PICK 19: COLLINGWOOD – CONOR STONE
PICK 20: RICHMOND - CALEB POULTER

Clubs: Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 192cm/79kg

Bio: Poulter is one of the players who were able push their case in 2020, with the 18-year-old having a very impressive year in South Australia. The extra height he possesses will appeal to clubs with the 192cm midfielder gliding through the centre and averaging 25 disposals. He has a long kick and has shown he can hit the scoreboard. He tested reasonably well and looms as a player with plenty of upside for a club in the 15-30 mark.

In the mix: The Tigers are wanting to trade out this selection if possible, with Hawthorn and St Kilda among the potential suitors.

PICK 21: MELBOURNE – JACK CARROLL

PICK 22: SYDNEY SWANS - ERROL GULDEN (BID MATCHED)

PICK 23: MELBOURNE – BRAYDEN COOK

PICK 24: GWS GIANTS – LUKE PEDLAR

PICK 25: ST KILDA – NATHAN O’DRISCOLL

PICK 26: ADELAIDE CROWS - LIAM KOLAR

PICK 27: ADELAIDE CROWS - ZANE TREW

PICK 28; HAWTHORN - MAX HOLMES

PICK 29: HAWTHORN - CONNOR DOWNIE (BID MATCHED)

PICK 30: BRISBANE - TOM HIGHMORE

PICK 31: GWS GIANTS - ZAVIER MAHER

PICK 32: BRISBANE LIONS - BLAKE COLEMAN (BID MATCHED)

PICK 33: GEELONG - KAINE BALDWIN

PICK 34: FREMANTLE - BRANDON WALKER (BID MATCHED)

PICK 35: MELBOURNE - JAKE BOWEY

PICK 36: NORTH MELBOURNE - MATT ALLISON

PICK 37: CARLTON - RYAN ANGWIN

PICK 38: RICHMOND - JACKSON CALLOW

Clubs: North Launceston/Tasmania/Allies

Position: Key Forward

Size: 194cm/100kg

Bio: Just as the career of one Tasmanian appears to be coming to an end, another door opens. If the Tigers want a key forward this late in the draft, Callow might be the most obvious name. The strong bodied tall clunked plenty of contested marks each game and is a strong kick for goal. While he has some work to do athletically, there’s plenty to like about his game.

In the mix: A key forward would be a great addition to Richmond’s list giving the club options when Jack Riewoldt eventually finishes up his stellar career.

PICK 39: CARLTON - JAMES ROWE

PICK 40 NORTH MELBOURNE - HARRY SHARP

PICK 41: ESSENDON - CODY BRAND

PICK 42: HAWTHORN - LIAM MCMAHON

PICK 43: GEELONG - OLIVER DAVIS

PICK 44: FREMANTLE - ISIAH WINDER

PICK 45: FREMANTLE - JOEL WESTERN

PICK 46: PORT ADELAIDE - FRASER ROSMAN

PICK 47: RICHMOND - MAURICE RIOLI JNR

Clubs: Oakleigh Chargers/NT Thunder/Allies

Position: Small Forward

Size: 173cm/73kg

Bio: The son of a gun will join his cousin Daniel on an AFL list with the Tigers appearing certain to match the father-son prospect’s bid if it comes. He has elite speed but was unable to complete his 2km time trial recently after being attacked by a group of plovers on his run. He has shown a strong tackling ability and has the hunger when the ball is close to goal. He is far from the finished product but his flashes are mighty impressive.

In the mix: Rioli might be Richmond’s last selection on the night, but there has been interest in the small forward - the Bombers have met with him - which may force them to match a bid instead.

PICK 48: WEST COAST EAGLES - TYLER BROCKMAN

PICK 49: ESSENDON - JOSH EYRE

PICK 50: ST KILDA - HENRY SMITH

PICK 51: COLLINGWOOD - COREY DURDIN

PICK 52: BRISBANE LIONS - HENRY WALSH

PICK 53: COLLINGWOOD - SHANNON NEALE

PICK 54: COLLINGWOOD - SAM BERRY

PICK 55: COLLINGWOOD - EDDIE FORD

PICK 56: WESTERN BULLDOGS - JACK GINNIVAN


https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2020-final-phantom-draft-mock-draft-every-draft-pick-predicted-analysis-matt-balmer-draft-order-bids-best-players/news-story/3d410d87c8889b4a46cc20a2b5997941


Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: mightytiges on December 09, 2020, 02:36:04 AM
If we go for a mid I don't see us going for another tall one as we already have RCD. More around the 6 ft mark with Cotch & Sheds now vets. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 10:23:07 AM
I love how we normally take a player that no one has been talking about us being linked to.  Shows we don't let our secrets out. 
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Lions bid on Rioli as payback for last year. 
I am on the Macrae bandwagon, just what we lack on the list.  Go tall with speculative picks from there. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: the claw on December 09, 2020, 11:13:09 AM
If we go for a mid I don't see us going for another tall one as we already have RCD. More around the 6 ft mark with Cotch & Sheds now vets.
6FT = 183CM

RCD is the only tall mid we have if you dont include McIntosh who is a winger. What if Rcd doesnt make it?

We dont have a huge amount  of genuine medium players at all 183 - 189cm.
Vlastuin 187, Ross 187, Cotchin 185cm,Cumberland 183, Caddy 186, Martin 187, Ralphsmith186, Martyn 186, Pickett 184.
Thats nine mediums to cover all the ground in both seniors and seconds.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: mightytiges on December 09, 2020, 04:17:22 PM
I agree Claw we need to add to our medium mids. That's why I don't see us picking a 192cm tall mid like Poulter.

pmac, I hoping one of Macrae or Tom Powell slips to our pick. Unlikely though by the sound of it.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:03:08 PM
Draft about to start.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: The Machine on December 09, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
Stone or Macrae at our selection if we keep it.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:18:59 PM
Still waiting for it to start. Meant to begin at 7:10 according to SEN.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:29:41 PM
Adel - bid on JUH

1. WB - JUH
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:35:31 PM
2. Adel - Thilthorpe
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:40:12 PM
3. Norf - Phillips
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
4. Syd - McDonald 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 09, 2020, 07:51:24 PM
This is awful...

Why the need to drag these picks out.

You can't tell me thst each club needs 4 mins to make a selection

Even with bidding, it shouldn't drag on like this  :sleep :help
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 07:51:54 PM
Haw - bid on Campbell

5. Syd - Campbell
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: georgies31 on December 09, 2020, 07:56:02 PM
Joke honestly laughable gez move it on.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:00:35 PM
6. Haw - Grainger-Barras

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:01:38 PM
7. GC - Hollands
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:05:30 PM
Swans in trouble points wise if an early bid comes for their other academy kid Gulden.

Hawks & Pies have done a swap of 2nd rnd and later picks.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:06:30 PM
8. Ess - Cox
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:08:48 PM
Wonder if Dodoro will be a prick to us now and bid for Rioli inside the top 10 ::).
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:11:03 PM
9. Ess - Perkins
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 08:12:22 PM
Have clubs been told to use the full 5 minutes. This is so boring
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:16:29 PM
10. Ess - Reid

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:20:55 PM
Phillips going top 3 has thrown clubs' plans out of whack.

Hopefully a higher rated kid falls to us.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:21:42 PM
11. Adel - Pedlar
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: wayne on December 09, 2020, 08:24:26 PM
Have clubs been told to use the full 5 minutes. This is so boring

It's going to finish at 3am at this rate
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:24:30 PM
12. GWS - Bruhn
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:29:13 PM
13. Norf - Powell
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:35:24 PM
14. Freo - Chapman
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:36:12 PM
15. GWS - Stone
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
Powell and now Stone gone. Looks like we're gonna just miss out on Macrae too unless we get very lucky.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:40:15 PM
Coll bid on Jones. Matched.

16. Port - Jones
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:42:25 PM
17. Coll - Henry
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:44:38 PM
Let's hope GWS now bid on McInness so the Pies have to use their pick before us on him.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:47:02 PM
18. GWS - Angwin
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
We're next after the Pies. If the Pies take Macrae blame GWS. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 08:50:42 PM
19. Coll - Macrae

thanks Giants for that gift to the Pies.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 09, 2020, 08:56:07 PM
No pick for us we trade pick 20 to Geelong for their future 1st rounder in 2021 I think the AFL website just said



Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 08:57:09 PM
Is that it?  Nothing else involved?  A straight swap
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
Rendell on SEN said we would've taken Holmes if we had kept our first. Geelong took him with that pick (20).

21. Melb - Bowey
22. Melb - Laurie
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 09:05:07 PM
Unfortunately Matt has no clue. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:08:20 PM
GWS bid now for McInness ::).

Pies match it.

23. Coll - McInness
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 09, 2020, 09:10:54 PM
Is that it?  Nothing else involved?  A straight swap

Yep
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:16:44 PM
Coll traded future first rounder for this next pick off GWS.

Pies bid on Coleman.

Matched after Bris pick swap with Freo.

24. Bris - Coleman
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:25:19 PM
pies swap with the Crows

25. Adel - Cook
26. StK - Allison
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 09:35:38 PM
Ned Guy doing his best Kevin Costner In Draft Day.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:38:20 PM
Coll swap picks with Freo.

27. Freo - O'Driscoll
28. Adel - Berry
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:43:41 PM
29. Haw - Seamus Mitchell
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: tdy on December 09, 2020, 09:45:37 PM
Nearing our first. 36 isn't it?
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:47:31 PM
30. Coll - Poulter
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 09:58:45 PM
tdy, the picks have been pushed back by about 5-6 spots due the academy bids. So our 2nd is now in the early 40s.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: wayne on December 09, 2020, 09:59:38 PM
This is torturous to watch...  :sleep
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:01:57 PM
31. Coll - McMahon
32. Syd - Gulden (matched bid)
33. Geel - Neale
34. Melb - Rosman
35. Haw - Dowey (matched bid)
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 09, 2020, 10:05:26 PM
This is torturous to watch...  :sleep

I gave up at 8.30

Fox coverage was supposed to finish at 10pm. The way it's going it won't finish until Xmas day (if we're lucky)
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:07:49 PM
SEN has given up.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:10:51 PM
We're next apparently at 39
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:12:22 PM
We've bid on Eyre (Ess NGA).
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
Essendon match it.

So we're up again at 40.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
40. Rich - Ryan
41. Carl - Carroll
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 10:43:14 PM
42. Norf - Spicer
43. Bris - Sharp
44. Coll - McCreery
45. StK - Highmore
46. Haw - Brockman
47. Geel - Stevens
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 11:04:45 PM
48. Bris - Smith
49. Port - Lord
50. Freo - Walker (matched bid)
51. Rich - Rioli (matched bid)
52. WCE - Edwards
53. Ess - Brand (matched bid)
54. Freo - Western
55. WB - Bedendo

We've passed on our next pick  apparently so we are done.

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 09, 2020, 11:06:32 PM
So we now have:
Collina -213cm
Soldo - 204cm
Ryan - 203cm.  Other reports 206cm
Coleman Jones - 201cm
Chol - 200cm
Nankervis - 199cm

6 ruckmen.  I'm a bit confused
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: camboon on December 09, 2020, 11:28:02 PM
What’s the obsession with Brisbane linked players
Not sure why we didn’t look for a key forward or Backman
I’m a bit down, seem we only participated because we had to this year
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 11:29:23 PM
56. Norf - Ford
57. WCE - Winder
58. GWS - Fleeton
59. GWS - Weir
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Knighter on December 09, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
What’s the obsession with Brisbane linked players
Not sure why we didn’t look for a key forward or Backman
I’m a bit down, seem we only participated because we had to this year

Most people only participated in 2020 because we had to. Goes with the theme of the year
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 09, 2020, 11:40:15 PM
Finally over.

Took 4 hours to do just 59 picks :-P. Went an hour and a half overtime.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Diocletian on December 10, 2020, 12:07:08 AM
So we currently have the fourth strongest hand in next year's "super draft"(Based on this year's ladder):

(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2020-12-09-at-22-40-20-1-png.1025552/)

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-picks-2021-draft-order-up-to-date-with-official-confirmation-of-final-trades.1251001/post-68234960

 :shh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Andyy on December 10, 2020, 12:44:51 AM
I'm fine with this.

Plenty of picks for 2021's allegedly deep draft.

Got our boy MRJ.

Development ruck at 206cm, about 20yo already and from Brisbane academy so he should be a step ahead of the pack.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Owl on December 10, 2020, 08:31:31 AM
The big fella looks good, takes a good mark, not afraid of taking a crude hit or two.  Pretty happy with this pick.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on December 10, 2020, 11:25:19 AM
The club obviously didn’t want to take this draft seriously.

If you can make Soldo a decent premiership ruckman than skies the limit for this
young kid that was not on any pre draft listing and was described as a massive surprise mover in the draft order according to those “experts” on Fox footy.

Obviously this draft had a bunch of meh players, the same players teams like the filth and the drug cheats are salivating over.  :rollin

I can only trust the club knows best as proven time and time again.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: pmac21 on December 11, 2020, 09:24:49 PM
Just reading Collingwood's war room article explaining how they ended up getting 5 picks inside 40 odd.  In a draft we clearly didn't rate after pick 20 it pleases me that other clubs are falling over themselves to pick up these player's. 
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Owl on December 11, 2020, 09:28:50 PM
I was enjoying the fact that they have to still count an extra million on their salary cap for Treloar for the next 5 years LOL, belly laugh of the decade.  Trade war II electric boogaloo
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: wayne on December 12, 2020, 06:34:14 AM
Just reading Collingwood's war room article explaining how they ended up getting 5 picks inside 40 odd.  In a draft we clearly didn't rate after pick 20 it pleases me that other clubs are falling over themselves to pick up these player's.

They're called the big winners at the draft... it's like when your mate says he just won $300 at the pokies, but put $2k through the machine.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 13, 2020, 10:24:18 PM
AFL website suggesting that the RFC may invite Derek Eggmolesse-Smith to train over the pre-season with a view to re-draft him as rookie  :gobdrop
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Damo on December 13, 2020, 10:32:51 PM
AFL website suggesting that the RFC may invite Derek Eggmolesse-Smith to train over the pre-season with a view to re-start him as rookie  :gobdrop

 :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: one-eyed on December 14, 2020, 01:27:45 AM
Foxsports website says we have two rookie spots still open.

It also says AFL clubs can have up to 6 players train with them from Jan.

Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: wayne on December 14, 2020, 12:27:14 PM
I hope not....

Surely there are plenty of other kids we could rookie...  :huh
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: mightytiges on December 15, 2020, 10:27:59 AM
Eggy would presumably remain a Cat B rookie. So we would still have two Cat A rookie spots free.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: Knighter on December 15, 2020, 01:25:36 PM
I hope not....

Surely there are plenty of other kids we could rookie...  :huh

Egg was BOG against GC this year.  None of the rookies available now are likely to even get a game in the next 2 years let alone give a BOG performance.
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: camboon on December 15, 2020, 01:33:04 PM
He hasn’t played a lot of seniors games, and I believe like all players will get better with experience and confidence ,
We have let players go ,that can play small back, so at the very least he is not the worst back up
Title: Re: 2020 AFL Draft
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 15, 2020, 01:49:46 PM

Egg was BOG against GC this year.  None of the rookies available now are likely to even get a game in the next 2 years let alone give a BOG performance.

He BOG against N0rt the night he won the TV. He was Ok against the Suns and was terrible against WCE... against top quality opposition he is miles off... can't handle pressure whether that is actual or inferred

As I posted when he was delisted, most of us on here could have got BOG honours against N0rt they were that pathetic  ;D So I am not sure holding up that game as a beacon for him is that great a recommendation

but each to their own  :thumbsup