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BREAKING: AFL shuts down 2020 season indefinitely as Gillon McLachlan to face the media
* March 22, 2020 4:31pm
* by Fox Sports
* Source: FOX SPORTS
The AFL season will be shut down with league chief Gillon McLachlan to speak at 4:30pm EDT.
It’s expected McLachlan will confirm the news the league will be suspended indefinitely amid the coronavirus crisis.
The league will likely announce a pause until May 31, but this is a target for a return rather than a confirmed date.
The news comes after Victoria and New South Wales announced they’ll be shutting down over the next 48 hours.
The AFL Women’s season will also be shut down and no premiership given out.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-live-coronavirus-updates/news-story/c8881de04a403df72431dfa7d8ae81fe
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No team training allowed from now on?
If so then it's effectively like the post-season 8-week off-season break. When the footy is eventually allowed to return, if there's not a few weeks of team training and scratch matches before the restart then teams will be rusty as anything and playing like they haven't had a preseason.
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Player training at each club will also be suspended.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/five-quick-questions-on-afl-suspending-the-2020-season/12079682
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I feel sorry for Greta, all her thunder has been stolen due to this dang virus thing
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footy wont be back this year
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footy wont be back this year
Yep will be a need a miracle
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footy wont be back this year
Yep will be a need a miracle
Thinking the same
oh well it's still Tigertime for another year.
Im one of the biggest Tigerheads going around and there is a bigger picture here, gunna be a real stuffing poo winter
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Hey %100 win loss ratio for the tiges. Best season we have ever had.
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Obviously much much bigger issues for our country than footy , but part of my is peeed off that a year of our prime will likely go down the drain. :-\
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Real shame for the Tiges. Given we were one of the premiership fancies, we have the most to lose!
Hope we can keep it rolling on into 2021.
Guys like Jack, Cotch, Edwards etc have limited time left :(
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5 day breaks x 16 H/A games = 80 days.
5 days x 4 weeks finals = 20 days.
Total = 100 days.
So the latest the season could be restarted is early September if the AFL is willing to play through to late December. September is still in our 'flu' season period.
A shorter alternative would be to split the League into two conferences like the AFLW and teams play each team in their respective conference once. Then only have two weeks of finals where the top 2 from each conference crossover in Prelims with the winners playing off in the GF.
5 days x 8 'H/A' games = 40 days.
5 days x 2 weeks finals = 10 days.
Total = 50 days.
This second option would allow an early November start at the latest. Sure it's compromised but the planned 17 rounds was already a compromised situation.
n.b. In both methods all finals would have to be played at Docklands so not to clash with the Cricket.
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They could run a mini knockout comp at the end of the year for shots n Giggle's.
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The NRL has also now shutdown their season.
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Heh...
https://twitter.com/Demonblog/status/1241866992774070272
:shh
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2020 is finished as a season. AFL should tell everyone to get ready for 2021.
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Tigers star Jack Riewoldt defends players after AFL legend’s ‘irresponsible’ pay cut criticism
* March 25, 2020
* Source: FOX SPORTS
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt says he’s disappointed in Leigh Matthews’ “irresponsible” comments about the playing group, as he strongly defended them from criticism surrounding pay cuts.
AFL legend Matthews poured fuel on the fire when he declared he had “lost respect” for today’s players because of the current debate over how much money should be withheld from them during the coronavirus hiatus.
The AFLPA has agreed to accept a 50 per cent pay cut, while the league is keen on a higher portion, given the lack of revenue coming into the AFL while games aren’t being played.
The players have said they’re working with the league to ensure the financial security of the competition, but that they need to be able to survive in the interim and to train fully for when the season resumes.
Riewoldt told AFL 360 the players are keen to re-evaluate the situation ahead of the May 31 target date for a possible return to normality, and fully understand they’re not going to be paid fully this year.
“I don’t think I can sit here and say one thing that would make everyone happy. That’s the crux of it,” Riewoldt said on Fox Footy.
“I was really disappointed by what Leigh Matthews said. ‘Disillusioned’ in the current playing list.
“We’ve only got to go back, what three weeks ago, and 45 or 50 of the best players of the game put their hand up and said we'll help Australia raise eight million dollars, and put our bodies on the line - which we do for a job and we love doing.
“We’ll do that, for what we want to do, we want to be apart of helping people who’ve been through bushfires.
“So for an AFL great of the game to say that about the current playing list I think is really disappointing. And Leigh has a strong opinion, and a well-heard voice, so I thought that was maybe a bit irresponsible.
“It's hard. We aren’t going to please anyone. I think the decision the PA has taken which is look, we’ve got 10 weeks, this is when we’re looking at getting the game up and going, any negotiations further on that need to be done when we actually know where the game’s going to be going.
“So at the moment we’ve put a position to the AFL that says let’s re-evaluate in 10 weeks’ time, probably six weeks’ time I think because we’ll know what’s going. People shouldn’t be under illusion that we’re gonna go, no no, we want to be paid fully then.
“If the game isn’t going, we understand that there’s a massive role for the players to take here. There'll be plenty of other cuts, we may see lists cut, we may see players’ jobs lost.”
Herald Sun lead football writer and AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson then suggested the AFLPA’s position had come out “combative”, in a time when the sides should be working together.
But Riewoldt defended the players and said they voted to play 22 games this year, rather than 17, because that would mean more money for the league as a whole - and save jobs.
“You think that we wanted to pay 22 games because we want all of our pay,” he said.
“It’s a direct correlation - 50 to 100 million dollars a round is lost when we don’t play footy. If we play five less rounds, say 250 million dollars, they’re the jobs that are being cut now.
“We’re not saying ‘we definitely want to play this’, we’re saying if you want us to play 22 games in a shortened time, we’re happy to do it. Because we don’t want jobs to be lost.
“It’s a pretty simple equation. More games, more money, more people have jobs.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tigers-star-jack-riewoldt-defends-players-after-afl-legends-irresponsible-pay-cut-criticism/news-story/4a3cb5d39392fa1a766c337e19b92136
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The players are a bunch of selfish pricks.
People are losing their jobs in their thousands each day and these pricks think they are special.
They’ll send the competition under if they don’t cop the same as everyone else
Jack ‘look at me’ Riewoldt is talking poo as usual also.
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Love Jack, but I don't believe for one moment the players are trying to save the jobs of others by playing more games.
Even without a bushfire + fundraiser the players would put their hand up for a state of origin match any day, just to say that they had the privilege to play against the best of the best.
It's all about money. AFL careers aren't usually that long and most players don't earn the big $$$. They're just like us - they plan their lives around their incomes, their mortgage, school for their kids etc. Unfortunately though they have dug their own grave on this one and because they wanted a piece of the profits now they have to take a piece of the losses.
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Problem for the players and Jack and now Dangerfield (his waffle on SEN this morning was insulting) don't realise is that their argument doesn't pass the "pub test" or as my law friend calls it "the reasonable person test"
To say they need more info is insulting....
Suggest they jump in their cars and drive past their latest Centrelink and look at the queues...
or better yet pick up the phone and call every person from their respective clubs who have already been stood down or lost their jobs for more info on how this impacting the game NOW.
Players on the big contracts wont lose their jobs.... so many of the co-workers wont be so lucky
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cant believe these blokes.
I must say as much as scott is a flog, what he did with clarko was fantastic
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Hardwick should do the same. All the coaches are loaded.
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Hardwick should do the same. All the coaches are loaded.
All coaches have taken a cut
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cant believe these blokes.
I must say as much as scott is a flog, what he did with clarko was fantastic
Agree Frankie
Well said
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The players are a bunch of selfish pricks.
People are losing their jobs in their thousands each day and these pricks think they are special.
They’ll send the competition under if they don’t cop the same as everyone else
Jack ‘look at me’ Riewoldt is talking poo as usual also.
Going to go into bat here for Jack and partially retract my whack a couple of posts back
Jist Watched a snippet of him on AFL360 last night talk about the RFC and the people who've been stood down
He was incredibly emotional when talking out our Club and those terrific people who don't know of they are going to have job to go back to... he sounded crushed
But my whacks at Dangerfield stand. >:(
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Players
Whatever cut they take
Well the club can keep that % of my membership
Sounds fair to me
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'You live in a bigger bubble than I thought': Caroline Wilson rips Jack Riewoldt over bushfire comments
By Chris De Silva
Nine WWOS
26 March 2020
Veteran AFL reporter Caroline Wilson has ripped Richmond star Jack Riewoldt after he used the players' participation in the State of Origin for Bushfire Relief clash as evidence of players' selflessness.
Riewoldt issued the comments in response to AFL great Leigh Matthews saying that he was disappointed with the current crop of players for their involvement in the AFL's pay dispute.
"We've only got to go back three weeks and 45-50 of the best players of the game put their hand up said (they) will help Australia raise $8 million and put (their) bodies on the line," he told Fox Footy.
"We want to be a part of helping people that have been through bushfires."
However, Wilson, who admitted that Riewoldt was her favourite player, was left incredibly disappointed by the Richmond star's comments.
"This arrow is directed at whoever it was at the Players' Association who advised AFL footballers to use their participation in that bushfire relief game as a selfless act. Please," she told Footy Classified.
"Sure it was a great event and a lot of players gave up their time, as many did money, for a critical cause.
"Jack, and it pains me to say this, you are my favourite player, but bodies on the line? This was a fun, bruise-free kick and giggle. I would have thought to do so much good at a critical time was a privilege and a gift.
"Whoever it is, if you actually believe that what you did was a sacrificial act, then you live in a bigger bubble than I thought.
"What a pity you have used such a wonderful thing as a bargaining tool in a PR battle you are losing so badly."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/caroline-wilson-slams-players-for-using-bushfire-appeal-to-display-selflessness/64b43712-b05b-4d08-861e-6a3cc92e7e0e
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'You live in a bigger bubble than I thought': Caroline Wilson rips Jack Riewoldt over bushfire comments
By Chris De Silva
Nine WWOS
26 March 2020
Veteran AFL reporter Caroline Wilson has ripped Richmond star Jack Riewoldt after he used the players' participation in the State of Origin for Bushfire Relief clash as evidence of players' selflessness.
Riewoldt issued the comments in response to AFL great Leigh Matthews saying that he was disappointed with the current crop of players for their involvement in the AFL's pay dispute.
"We've only got to go back three weeks and 45-50 of the best players of the game put their hand up said (they) will help Australia raise $8 million and put (their) bodies on the line," he told Fox Footy.
"We want to be a part of helping people that have been through bushfires."
However, Wilson, who admitted that Riewoldt was her favourite player, was left incredibly disappointed by the Richmond star's comments.
"This arrow is directed at whoever it was at the Players' Association who advised AFL footballers to use their participation in that bushfire relief game as a selfless act. Please," she told Footy Classified.
"Sure it was a great event and a lot of players gave up their time, as many did money, for a critical cause.
"Jack, and it pains me to say this, you are my favourite player, but bodies on the line? This was a fun, bruise-free kick and giggle. I would have thought to do so much good at a critical time was a privilege and a gift.
"Whoever it is, if you actually believe that what you did was a sacrificial act, then you live in a bigger bubble than I thought.
"What a pity you have used such a wonderful thing as a bargaining tool in a PR battle you are losing so badly."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/caroline-wilson-slams-players-for-using-bushfire-appeal-to-display-selflessness/64b43712-b05b-4d08-861e-6a3cc92e7e0e
Full disclosure - I don't have a particularly high opinion of Caroline Wilson and her tendency to sneer and talk over guests on the show, and I watched Footy Classified last night as this arrow was launched I saw nothing to change my opinion. I often see things differently to the masses but when you watch the full segments Jack has participated in on AFL360 the last couple of weeks and then see just how out of context those comments were taken to create a story and when Eddie M is the one making sense well the world is being turned around.
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If they want to retain employees at their club then everyone should take a 50% paycut to support those guys being laid off.
Dangerfield whinging that players are still required to train FMD haha
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I wonder if the club will pause monthly membership payments themselves? That would probably be the right thing to do. They can keep my 2 memberships coming out as it doesn't really worry me but people will begin to struggle financially soon and this is a non essential expense.
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I wonder if the club will pause monthly membership payments themselves? That would probably be the right thing to do. They can keep my 2 memberships coming out as it doesn't really worry me but people will begin to struggle financially soon and this is a non essential expense.
One of the many things the Clubs and AFL are working through
If people want their payments stopped they can call the club and they will oblige
It's an individual call to make
Personally, have made the call that they can continue to take my monthly payments, so many great people at that are being stood down; just want to help
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AFL clubs hope to have membership options within a fortnight
Peter Ryan
March 26, 2020 — 10.26am
AFL clubs hope to be able to give their members a range of options to consider in the next fortnight as they scramble to make suitable arrangements for supporters in an interrupted season.
Club CEOs including Carlton's Cain Liddle and Richmond's Brendon Gale have been working together to create a uniform position across the 18 clubs with the clubs agreeing early in the piece that it would be not help anyone if wealthier clubs used their financial position to make offers to members that other clubs couldn't match.
The working group is understood to be considering offering members options such as credits on future memberships, converting memberships into tax deductible donations, as well as offering refunds where needed although nothing has been finalised as yet.
With the game suspended until at least May 31 (although few expect it to return that early) and a new fixture to be developed if the season does get underway, significant uncertainty remains as to what lies ahead with AFL CEO Gill McLachlan saying he is prepared for the season to extend until the end of the year to ensure the remaining 144 games plus finals are played.
Geelong CEO Brian Cook told a KRock podcast that the Cats had been overwhelmed with support from members as the industry dealt with the myriad of decisions required after the game was cancelled due to government restrictions in place to control the spread of the coronavirus.
"We’ve been working towards a common strategy for all clubs, and it will involve, eventually, several options for their members to consider," Cook said.
Cook expected club members would have about five options to consider once clubs and the AFL had approved the approach with the veteran CEO also anticipating it would need the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's tick of approval.
"I’m expecting [in] about a week or so, we’ll be able to go out to members and say, 'Look, here is our offer'," Cook said.
The AFL said at their season launch that one in 24 Australians are members of clubs. The range of membership options provided by clubs are enormous, ranging from three-game memberships to digital memberships, season ticket holders, reserve seats, season ticket holders and corporate packages or social club memberships.
Membership has been one of the game's biggest growth areas with club bosses describing members as the "lifeblood" of clubs before the coronavirus crisis.
Club officials have been heartened by the response of members with more people happy to leave their money with the club at this stage than wanting refunds. All clubs have had people buy memberships since the season cancelled too.
However they are also conscious there are many people, like clubs, who have suddenly been hit with significant financial troubles as jobs disappear so they are attempting to work out a suitable solution.
It's unclear at this stage what approach will be taken with AFL members.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-hope-to-have-membership-options-within-a-fortnight-20200326-p54e11.html
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Credit for 2021 is fine
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what i want to know is what are the afl doing with their memberships that we have paid for?
Those scumbags arent getting one cent from me. Club is a different discussion, but the afl screw them.
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Just so people are aware
Another way we can support the club is via merch sales if folks can afford it
The online shop is open for business and offering free shipping
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The media almost unanimously pushing for this shorter quarters(i.e. longer ad breaks) bollocks to be introduced permanently...stuff me drunk they really are all just a bunch of toadying AFL shills....but anyone with even half a clue already knew that... :shh
Hope Fatchison and his crockofshytemedia empire goes under too.... :shh :shh
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Players have accepted a 50% pay cut for the next 8 weeks and will accept further cuts if needed.
Source: Tom Browne Ch 7 news.
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Footy shutdown will cause "mental struggle" for AFL players: Murray
By Sammy Edmund
SEN
27 March 2020
High-performance mind coach Emma Murray has warned the AFL shutdown will hit some players hard, forcing them into a “mental struggle”.
Murray, Richmond’s master of mindfulness, is keeping in regular contact with the players, despite falling victim to widespread cost-cutting herself.
While she said the premiers were so far coping well, Murray is conscious of the different personalities and different levels of job security amongst the playing group over the longer term.
“I can’t speak for other clubs, but Richmond has done a lot of work in this space, so they’ve got a lot of tools to process things like this and they have the ability to shift their perspective,” Murray said.
“But you’re going to see different approaches. Some are going to get really busy because they’re such physical people and they’ll start renovating houses and doing their gardens. We’re seeing a lot of that because they need to be active and to expend energy.
“Then you’ll see others stop for the first time and think ‘What does it look like for me after football?’ and ‘What am I going to do and how am I going to do it?’
“It brings a reality of ‘this could all be over’. Some careers are going to be cut short by this.
“So far they are coping well. But I think we’ll see people coming to the end of their contracts or that middle tier of player who has been around for a couple of years, they haven’t quite cracked it, and this was the big year to break in. That’s where we’re going to see the mental struggle emerge.
“I would encourage them to get out of that story because that’s out of their control and to use the time to come back bigger, stronger, better.
“A break like this can hit them in the face.”
Murray started working with RRichmond players individually in 2016 before she was employed as part of the football program in 2017. Several Tigers have credited her for the growth of their careers.
“When this all started, I went into the club every day just to be there and once we were told on Sunday not to come in, I’ve started checking in on them a lot,” she said.
“That’s the Richmond way and I’m not the only one doing that. That’s how we go about it, it’s about connection and people and it’s deeper than just a job and that’s where our success has come from.”
Murray said she was telling players “you don’t need to have it all sorted tomorrow” and to expect disorientation after being snapped out of a heavily structured environment.
“That’s what every person around the world who is working from home is struggling with. Their routine has been ripped from them,” Murray said.
“The AFL world is governed by schedule. It’s drilled into them to be on time, do what they’re told and where to be every minute of the day. Without that, you’re going to see some guys cope well and others really struggle with it.
“Normally, the boys connect instinctively and keep each other on track, but not being able to see each other, it’s a bit like, ‘How do we do it now?’
“This is a different generation with different mental challenges.”
Murray is also eager to help the wider population through this time. She will provide tips and visualisations she used with elite athletes via her Instagram account, em.murray.1.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/27/footy-shutdown-will-cause-mental-struggle-for-afl-players-murray/
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Bank loan to 'save' football will be sealed within 24 hours.
Secured by Marvel Stadium.
Source: Ch 7 news.
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What happened to the future fund?
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The media almost unanimously pushing for this shorter quarters(i.e. longer ad breaks) bollocks to be introduced permanently...stuff me drunk they really are all just a bunch of toadying AFL shills....but anyone with even half a clue already knew that... :shh
Hope Fatchison and his crockofshytemedia empire goes under too.... :shh :shh
Fatchison. :ROTFL
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What happens when the lights go back on?
Peter Ryan
The Age
28 March 2020
The financial tsunami that swamped football when matches were cancelled to help stop the spread of the coronavirus will make the game vastly different to the one we imagined just a month ago.
We have already had a taste of it during a ghostly round one with shorter quarters and no crowds.
At some point, however, the game will return and eventually the crowds will stream in too. But other parts of the game will shrink, potentially creating a completely different experience to what we’ve been watching in the past decade.
One comment from Geelong coach Chris Scott on radio SEN summed up what lies ahead for football. ‘‘We need to prepare for a different environment in the seasons that come but it is just so hard to forecast exactly what the changes are going to be. We are going to have to ask for more from fewer people and to play our role in society,’’ Scott said.
What will the competition look like when the lights go back on?
WILL 18 CLUBS SURVIVE?
As soon as the financial impact of the coronavirus crisis became clear, maintaining an 18-club competition has been the AFL’s objective, with clubs directed to cut costs and work collaboratively to make this happen. Throughout football’s depression the AFL’s philosophy has been to shred staff and costs rather than clubs, prioritising the survival of each club – including Gold Coast and the GWS – so that when football resumes nine games will be played per round as per the broadcast agreement. Whether that remains the approach down the track no one knows but the AFL remains steadfast in wanting an 18-club competition.
WHO WILL LOSE MOST?
Football departments will never be the same again with assistant coaches, data analysts and recruiting experts to feel the hit the hardest. Already forced to shave $1 million off their budgets for 2020 there will be $3 million less around in 2021 when the soft cap sits at $6.7 million a club. Some clubs had a dozen coaches and recruiting teams of at least four. Expect that figure to be halved with all coaches needing to, as one AFL source said, ‘‘play tall and small’’ to flourish in the future. The AFL won’t mind because there has been a view that clubs employed too many coaches anyway, stifling the game. However the effect on individuals will be very real as they look to find new careers in other parts of football clubs or outside the industry. The level of statistical analysis from organisations such as Champion Data will also be reviewed.
WHAT ABOUT PLAYERS?
In the short term, cloth has been cut to accommodate the new reality as the AFL strikes an interim deal with the players to ride out the economic storm. The expected TPP per club of $13,013,257 for 2020 is now a distant dream and no one knows for certain what a club’s TPP will look like in 2021 and beyond with no visibility on when the game resumes. Very few list managers expect list sizes to remain the same however, with most anticipating list numbers, that currently sit between 40 and 44 (Gold Coast have a list of 51 in 2020), will reduce to 35 per club. Yesterday, conversations began between the AFL and clubs to determine how existing contracts will be handled with player agents believing every option between retaining the status quo to renegotiating all contracts under a revised CBA were being considered.
HOW MANY GAMES WILL WE GET?
As time ticks by, the prospect of playing 144 plus finals becomes increasingly uncertain. However, AFL planning – shorter games and the flagging of consecutive games being played with fewer days break in between – has occurred to give them maximum flexibility to complete that schedule before the new year. Double-headers, back-to-back games on the road, five-day breaks and games played every night of the week are all possibilities. Ground availability will not stop the season as the television dollars remain the most critical revenue source rather than selling out the MCG, which is unavailable from mid-October until late November due to cricket’s Twenty20 World Cup. The AFL will want to please broadcasters so an expanded finals series and a night grand final are possibilities depending on the time available. In 2021, a 22-round season will be maintained.
HOW WILL GAMES CHANGE?
Quarters of 16 minutes plus time-on will make games tighter late and keep the stars on the ground longer. Nat Fyfe was on the ground for the entire last quarter in the round-one clash with Essendon. Shorter breaks between games will see clubs rotate players to keep them fresh and match fit with form not being the only criteria for selection. The players will push for more interchange rotations and flexibility but the AFL has held firm on that. Fewer coaches will also probably lead to freer scoring.
THE AFLW?
Some might view the AFLW as a luxury item but there has been sponsorship interest and positive cultural change as a result of the competition. Expansion beyond the 14 teams appears unlikely for the time being.
STATE LEAGUES?
No one knows what structure will be in place for the second-tier competition in 2021. Many consider it more likely in 2020 that a series of practice matches would be played to support the AFL squads rather than resuming the postponed VFL season.
WILL THE GAME SURVIVE FINANCIALLY?
Clubs and the AFL will be in debt for the foreseeable future as they open a line of credit close to $600million. The positive side has been the reaction of individuals within the game as people worked together at a time of the year when they would otherwise be in fierce battle and the AFL looked to support the mental health and wellbeing of players and staff at clubs hit by the shock of stand downs and economic uncertainty.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/what-happens-when-the-lights-go-back-on-20200327-p54emo.html
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The competition would gett stonger if North St Kilda Melbourne and Gold Coast leave the competion
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The competition would gett stonger if North St Kilda Melbourne and Gold Coast leave the competion
Merge the Dees and Norf, pee GWS off and move the Saints to Tassie
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The list reductions are going to be harsh if they settle on 35...that's 9 players that will need to be cut plus the ones to make room for draftees if the draft goes ahead and that's before you even get to trades...likes of McIntosh, Chol, Miller, Aarts, Garthwaite will no doubt be sent packing but we're probably also going to see kids like RCD, Eggmolese-Smith, Biggie, Ralphsmith and possibly even Ross & Dow all get the arse.... :shh
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RCD is lazy I’ve seen his type for years. Unless something clicks he will never make it to the next level.
Actually the only one i would be keen to keep from that list would be Ross.
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RCD is lazy I’ve seen his type for years. Unless something clicks he will never make it to the next level.
Whether he'll come good or not is probably moot now anyway...for the foreseeable future, clubs simply won't be able to afford the luxury nor have the list space nor resources to carry slow burners like RCD for years or draft project players like Chol or even the next Soldo trying to develop them into AFL-standard players...... :shh
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I dunno.
I mean this whole thing may cause a lot of grief for a while but eventually they will be the money guzzlers they’ve always been.
Junket trips to the USA to see what Pittsburgh Steelers are doing compared to the Oakland Raiders compared to the Texans compared to the Cowboys etc etc.
Won’t be long till they find it inventive and essential to conduct preseason training at some exotic mountain in Peru because the mindfulness assistant to the second tier skills analyst thinks so. :rollin
Hasn’t stopped a club before even when some were broke what will stop them in the future.
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The list reductions are going to be harsh if they settle on 35...that's 9 players that will need to be cut plus the ones to make room for draftees if the draft goes ahead and that's before you even get to trades...likes of McIntosh, Chol, Miller, Aarts, Garthwaite will no doubt be sent packing but we're probably also going to see kids like RCD, Eggmolese-Smith, Biggie, Ralphsmith and possibly even Ross & Dow all get the arse.... :shh
Rance, Nankervis, Turner, Markov, English, McIntosh, W.Martyn, Aartz, Garthwaite, Miller, Biggy, Naish.
happy to keep Rance if he plays, Nank traded, McIntosh traded. the others not worth much in trades.
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Can't see the club turfing Nank and keeping Chol (Though that's what I'd do if it was a choice, still reckon the a CCJ/Chol combo is the way forward long-term, if CCJ stays put that is) ...based on output so far Turner stiff if he goes before RCD -looked very promising at stages last year before injury set him back....Houli should retire...then you have to consider our depth in areas like key defenders and will we really dump blokes we've just drafted before they've even kicked a ball in anger? Who knows? Then if even just one or two clubs fold it will really throw the cat among the pigeons re: list management and if it's the expansion clubs then there's going to be absolute carnage across the entire comp...will be very tricky keeping morale up too if club favourites suddenly get cast aside in order to make room for all the guns and future guns that would suddenly come on the market...hell if Rowell, Anderson, King, Greene, Green.,Kelly, Hopper, Coniglio, Whitfield, Tarranto, Taylor ,Williams , Cameron etc were all up for grabs you'd be seriously tempted to clear the decks of almost everyone bar your best 5-6 players and maybe even 1 or 2 of them as well just to get 4 maybe 5 of those names... :shh
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Club CEOs willing to share IP to get through this.
Benny Gale on the membership working group given our AFL record 100k+ membership.
'Stunning' move as AFL club bosses join ranks
Sam McClure
The Age
31 March 2020
The AFL’s 18 crisis-stricken clubs have joined forces to create a survival plan to ensure their long-term existence.
Working in unison for the first time, club bosses have put aside their own agendas to share ideas and intellectual property to help each other stay afloat. The chief executives have devised three crucial elements to help survive the game’s economic disaster: finance, membership and state leagues.
Gold Coast boss and former head of football at the AFL Mark Evans will lead the financial working group, alongside fellow heavy hitters Gary Pert (Melbourne), Tom Harley (Sydney) and Trevor Nisbett (West Coast).
Evans will also lead a smaller subcommittee in the financial working group that will concentrate on the best way to deal with a reduced football department soft cap for 2021 on.
He told The Age that the 18 senior club figures had taken a collegiate approach to ensure their survival.
“The best thing that’s come out of this entire situation is the way the CEOs and the AFL have banded together. It’s been stunning,’’ Evans said yesterday.
“It’s been completely the opposite to how it would usually be. Where you would protect the absolute intricacies of your program ... this has been the complete opposite.”
Reigning premiership CEO Brendon Gale will work alongside former colleague and now Carlton boss Cain Liddle to help clubs keep their membership base. In their time together at Richmond they grew the Tigers’ membership base to become the largest in the AFL.
Hawthorn chief Justin Reeves, newly instated Fremantle CEO Simon Garlick, Collingwood’s Mark Anderson and North Melbourne’s Ben Amarfio also form part of the membership group.
Experienced Brisbane Lions boss Greg Swann will help guide the clubs through the problems surrounding the game’s state leagues, helped by Geelong figurehead Brian Cook, Bulldogs chief Ameet Bains, Port Adelaide’s Keith Thomas and St Kilda’s Matthew Finnis.
The 18 club chiefs have also set up a WhatsApp message group, where each can share their ideas.
The Age has been told the idea for working groups started when all 18 club bosses got together two weeks ago on a Saturday morning, the day after the Formula One grand prix was cancelled.
It’s understood the AFL began to contact clubs that afternoon, flagging that the impending season would be vastly different. The club heads agreed they needed to devise a plan of attack, given how financially impacted each would be.
AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan announced the following Monday that the season would be reduced to 17 games plus finals.
The working groups are now more important than ever, given the possibility of a further reduced – or possibly even abandoned – season.
Several have told The Age the closer bond the club bosses are creating will help portray a unilateral view towards the game’s longevity and will also help clubs to continue to present their own identity.
WORKING GROUPS
FINANCE: Dave Matthews (GWS), Trevor Nisbett (WC), Tom Harley (Syd), Andrew Fagan (Adel), Mark Evans (GC), Xavier Campbell (Ess), Gary Pert (Melb)
MEMBERSHIP: Brendon Gale (Rich), Cain Liddle (Carl), Justin Reeves (Haw), Simon Garlick (Frem), Mark Anderson (Coll), Ben Amarfio (NM)
STATE LEAGUES: Greg Swann (BL), Keith Thomas (Port), Brian Cook (Geel), Matthew Finnis (StK), Ameet Bains (WB).
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/stunning-move-as-afl-club-bosses-join-ranks-20200330-p54fem.html
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Despite being a powerhouse I wouldn't be too worried about seeing other clubs fold.
In fact the Schadenfraude inside of me would be delighted.
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Gill on Ch7 news tonight said North will remain in Melbourne.
He's also still expecting the season to resume later on in the year.
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If the AFL were smart they'd drop this "18 teams or bust: charade now while the supporters of the soon-to-be-culled clubs can't get out on the street & protest..mind you, I'm sure the Norf supporter base could still do it without breaking the ban on public gatherings of more than two people... :shh
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Gill on Ch7 news tonight said North will remain in Melbourne.
He's also still expecting the season to resume later on in the year.
yet in the same sentence will be asking us members not to seek a refund on our afl memberships?
FO Gil. You have poorly managed the poorer sides and now will have to pay the price. I hope every AFL member seeks a refund from those scum bags
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Clubs believe the month of August is football’s most likely return period following discussions with the AFL on Thursday night.
And Foxfooty.com.au understands the league offered further direction to at least one club on Friday reiterating they prepare for a mid-August recommencement.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-afl-clubs-preparing-for-an-august-return-coronavirus-updates-league-shutdown/news-story/2118a52031a929132d601d2c88abb758
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Former commissioner claims AFL is way better placed than NRL to deal with this crisis. Here’s why ...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-nrl-news-coronavirus-postponed-arl-commission-graeme-samuel/news-story/bacdec0b5d2f3d1af6628be1ba426ba3
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Clubs preparing for a May 4 return to training (pending AFL advice).
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-coronavirus-updates-mega-hub-season-postponed-resumes-steve-hocking-gillon-mclachlan/news-story/88a4c86c308099cb701f7fb8d6122c39