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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 19, 2020, 07:48:34 PM
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Apparently we got through unscathed (touchwood).
Fire away with your changes?
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Aarts looked seriously sore with his left shoulder.
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Chol Castagna and Lambert out.
Lynch, Bolton and Prestia in.
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INS: Bolton, Lynch (if fit),
OUTS: Ross (unlucky), Aarts
Risk to big to bring Prestia back in
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Chol out for me.
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INS: Bolton, Lynch (if fit),
OUTS: Ross (unlucky), Aarts
Risk to big to bring Prestia back in
Think Ross is showing good signs.
In Bolton Lynch Prestia
Out Aartz Chol Pickett
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Chol out for me.
He was useless
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Caddy is a tough choice. I’ve been talking up his selection all week and he didn't disappoint with 2 goals.
What was missing was his chasing and tackling pressure that as a team has made us who we are and the reason we rate it so highly.
1 pressure act and 0 tackles doesn’t cut the mustard for our team.
If Lynch is back I’d be surprised if he’s there for our first final.
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In: Bolton, Lynch, Prestia (assuming all fit)
Out: Ross and Chol. No idea who the last one would be, glad on not on the match committee.
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I thought Aarts was our best small forward tonight- I don’t think he will get dropped (unless he is injured)
Out- Chol - would rather take my chances with a part, part time ruckman.
Nank to ruck most of the day with Lynch and Jack rucking in our forwardline and Astbury and Bolts helping out in our backline. Nank to play between the archs.
Bolton in for Caddy
Lynch in for Chol
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Ross will be out before Aarts
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Impressive Tigers set to regain more stars for first final
Dion Prestia is firming to return for Richmond's first final, along with Shai Bolton and Tom Lynch
By Marc McGowan
afl.com.au
19 September 2020 10pm
RICHMOND'S reigning club champion Dion Prestia is on track to be one of three Tigers to return from injury for their first final in a fortnight.
Prestia underwent ankle surgery in July after suffering a syndesmosis setback in Richmond's round five win over Melbourne and hasn't played since, but is well on the way to being back.
Dual premiership coach Damien Hardwick said after his team's 44-point defeat of Adelaide on Saturday that the 27-year-old onballer planned to fit in match practice next week and was set to be ready for finals.
"Dion is a wonderful player – a best and fairest winner – and hasn't played for us for a long period of time, but he just makes us better by being out there," Hardwick said.
"If he's putting his hand up to play, I'm picking him."
Shai Bolton (corked calf) is certain to be available for the Tigers' qualifying final, while Tom Lynch (hamstring) should be as well, although Hardwick said they wouldn't risk him if there was any doubt.
In-game injuries to Josh Caddy (knee) and Jake Aarts (shoulder) aren't expected to rule them out.
The victory over the Crows sealed third spot for Richmond, extending the club's run of top-four finishes to four years as it hunts a third flag in that period.
Making the result sweeter was the successful returns of key pair Shane Edwards and David Astbury – last seen in rounds five and four, respectively – after Bachar Houli also came back in recent weeks.
With more talent incoming, the pressure for spots at Tigerland will be enormous come finals time.
"There are going to be some good players miss out, but you know your list has to run deep to go as far as you can," Hardwick said.
"We've earned the opportunity in the top four. Our guys have hung tough throughout the year and every player plays a role.
"Some will play in a final; some will help those guys playing in a final. The good thing about our playing group is they have a really good understanding of what makes us great."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/508375/impressive-tigers-set-to-regain-more-stars-for-first-final
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Chol wasn't great tonight but dropping him for Lynch isn't a straight swap. Lynch would come in for Caddy. Bolton in for Ross. If we play Prestia, Pickett misses. Tough calls. Not sure we can go into a final with just Nank in the ruck.
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Out
Chol
Ross
In
Lynch
Bolton
If Prestia is fit I'm not sure who comes out- maybe Caddy?
Ross stiff but like Broad and Markov, we have such a strong list someone makes way.
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Ross will be out before Aarts
Hard Aarts
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Chol wasn't great tonight but dropping him for Lynch isn't a straight swap. Lynch would come in for Caddy. Bolton in for Ross. If we play Prestia, Pickett misses. Tough calls. Not sure we can go into a final with just Nank in the ruck.
Pickett not going to get dropped that wing position is his and is versatile to play other positions you can see his born for finals.Hard on Ross our midfield last 2 weeks look better with him in there.
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Pickett is overrated. Limited dusposal winner. How can getting the footy on a wing 8 times in a game be acceptable. People love the Pickett story but his output isnt up to AFL standard unfortunately. Deserves to be dropped based on performance.
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Pickett is overrated. Limited dusposal winner. How can getting the footy on a wing 8 times in a game be acceptable. People love the Pickett story but his output isnt up to AFL standard unfortunately. Deserves to be dropped based on performance.
Had 7 tackles too.
Won’t be dropped Ramps.
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IN: Lynch, Prestia, Bolton
OUT: Chol, Ross, Caddy (inj)
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Argument could be put forward that Pickett deserves to be dropped for pee weak efforts alone, not even worrying about getting 2 touches per quarter.
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Pickett is overrated. Limited dusposal winner. How can getting the footy on a wing 8 times in a game be acceptable. People love the Pickett story but his output isnt up to AFL standard unfortunately. Deserves to be dropped based on performance.
Had 7 tackles too.
Won’t be dropped Ramps.
Actually read in yesterday's HUN Pickett has laid the most tackles this season
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Argument could be put forward that Pickett deserves to be dropped for pee weak efforts alone, not even worrying about getting 2 touches per quarter.
Not sure why you dislike him but he is actually playing his role very well and i can't recall any pee weak efforts. He looks reasonably strong at the man and footy in my eyes and runs very hard both ways. Playing in the best team in the comp, me thinks he can play :shh
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Pickett or Aarts or even both may not go all the way.
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I would drop George before Aarts.
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Lynch & Bolton in
Chol & Caddy out
I'd give Prestia an extra week and not play him week one although if we win he then misses another week so it's a tough one.
If Prestia comes in you'd think Ross goes out.
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Assuming all of lynch, Bolton and Prestia are fit, I think most would agree chol and Ross will make way for 2 of the spots. The last spot is the one where people seem to be the most divided but it’s got to come from one of these 7 players who have at one point or another lost their place in the side (other than castagna):
McIntosh
Pickett
Graham
Aarts
Rioli
Castagna
Caddy
Whoever goes out is going to be super unlucky. I would fairly confidently say the first 3 are safe and the last out will be one of the smalls or Caddy. If I had to guess I would say Caddy based on team balance.
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Argument could be put forward that Pickett deserves to be dropped for pee weak efforts alone, not even worrying about getting 2 touches per quarter.
Not sure why you dislike him but he is actually playing his role very well and i can't recall any pee weak efforts. He looks reasonably strong at the man and footy in my eyes and runs very hard both ways. Playing in the best team in the comp, me thinks he can play :shh
His only pee weak efforts this season is his interest in chasing his other efforts have been good.
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McIntosh couldn’t be dropped , surely ????
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Argument could be put forward that Pickett deserves to be dropped for pee weak efforts alone, not even worrying about getting 2 touches per quarter.
Not sure why you dislike him but he is actually playing his role very well and i can't recall any pee weak efforts. He looks reasonably strong at the man and footy in my eyes and runs very hard both ways. Playing in the best team in the comp, me thinks he can play :shh
Don't dislike him, just think he's put in some ordinary efforts at times and think a little more consistency wouldn't go astray. I'd imagine his spot isn't totally secure. Someone has to make way for Prestia and the easy option is to drop the kid (Ross) but I reckon he's been good. Someone will be unlucky
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The Lions will be at full strength.
Harris Andrews set to make welcome return from hamstring injury in the club’s first final.
And in further good news for the Lions, key midfielder Jarrod Berry will be right to return from a shoulder injury against the Tigers.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/afl-brisbane-star-harris-andrews-set-to-make-welcome-return-from-hamstring-injury-in-the-clubs-first-final/news-story/6bd476990de6cc36d38b738b9752c2b1
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Good luck to them Andrews was graded on the worse of hammy bettervforvus they pick him.
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RICHMOND
The selection heat is on at the Tigers, with several key inclusions looming for the qualifying final against Brisbane.
Richmond will give Tom Lynch every chance to be declared fit from his Round 17 hamstring injury.
Dion Prestia is pushing to return from a Round 5 syndesmosis injury, with coach Damien Hardwick declaring: “He makes us better by being out there. If he’s putting his hand up to play, I’m picking him”.
The Tigers are not concerned about minor injuries suffered to Josh Caddy (knee) and Jake Aarts (shoulder) in the win over Adelaide.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-injuries-who-will-play-whos-hurt-for-2020-finals-series-ng-de568aa650ccf093cd39c0d4e2d8a688
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Assuming all of lynch, Bolton and Prestia are fit, I think most would agree chol and Ross will make way for 2 of the spots. The last spot is the one where people seem to be the most divided but it’s got to come from one of these 7 players who have at one point or another lost their place in the side (other than castagna):
McIntosh
Pickett
Graham
Aarts
Rioli
Castagna
Caddy
Whoever goes out is going to be super unlucky. I would fairly confidently say the first 3 are safe and the last out will be one of the smalls or Caddy. If I had to guess I would say Caddy based on team balance.
Last year this would have been an easy decision as Caddy was playing wing. One of Pickett or McIntosh would've made way. However, Kmac and Pickett are now ahead of Caddy as wingmen. Caddy came in last week as a marking forward with Lynch out. The issue for Dimma is he loves Caddy being in the side but there isn't a place for him unless he either replaces a small forward (Aarts or George) or replaces Pickett on a wing. Both are unlikely as Caddy is too slow in 2020 for either position.
Ross -> Prestia …. inside mid for an inside mid.
Caddy -> Lynch …. 'marking forward' for a marking forward.
Chol -> Bolton …. 2nd ruck who didn't do anything with another mid. A risk not having a 2nd ruck though.
The only alternative is to force a mid like Bolts or Lambert out to a wing to replace Pickett and then include a Broad or Caddy as the "2nd ruck".
Ross -> Prestia .… inside mid for an inside mid.
Caddy -> Lynch …. 'marking' forward for a marking forward.
Pickett -> Bolton … wing for a 'wing'.
Chol -> Broad* (or Caddy stays in instead). …. 2nd ruck who didn't do anything for a token 2nd 'ruck' which may or may not work either.
* If it's Broad and we are getting smashed in clearances when he is rucking then use Balta as 2nd ruck and push Broad into defence. So Broad may give us more flexibility as a 2nd ruck over Caddy.
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Despite his clear lack of speed, when asked to reinvent himself Caddy did more than prove himself on a wing just before and during the finals last season. His lack of speed wasn’t a worry at all. Not only did he fill the role adequately he also kicks goals.
Personally I think he adds more value than Pickett on a wing.
The beauty with Caddy is that Hardwick can pretty much ask him to play anywhere if needed.
Unfortunately, given the opportunity against Adelaide, I don’t think Caddy did provide the necessary pressure nor did he tackle enough to keep his spot in the team. Time will tell but I think Caddy is the type of player that has shown his worth in finals.
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Brisbane now has two very capable rucks so dropping Chol may not be a good idea. Obviously Lynch and Bolton in for Caddy and Ross. If Prestia is good then Aarts would be the one to go. Both Aarts and Caddy were injured so 100% fit players critical. Brisbane midfield is good so the strength of our existing mids plus Prestia and Bolton addresses that strength plus more. Remember they really struggle for a matchup on Dusty up forward so the extra mids become critical as he will play more forward and well and truely replace Aarts.
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Despite his clear lack of speed, when asked to reinvent himself Caddy did more than prove himself on a wing just before and during the finals last season. His lack of speed wasn’t a worry at all. Not only did he fill the role adequately he also kicks goals.
Personally I think he adds more value than Pickett on a wing.
The beauty with Caddy is that Hardwick can pretty much ask him to play anywhere if needed.
Unfortunately, given the opportunity against Adelaide, I don’t think Caddy did provide the necessary pressure nor did he tackle enough to keep his spot in the team. Time will tell but I think Caddy is the type of player that has shown his worth in finals.
I agree and I would want Caddy in the team but I highly doubt Pickett or Kamdyn get dropped considering the form they’ve been in the last 6 weeks. That only leaves one of the smalls you could get dropped in his place but would we lose our forward structure by only having 2 of Rioli, Castagna and aarts? Or could they be replaced by Edwards/Bolton while they rest forward after spells through the middle. Glad I’m not the one making the decision.
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Brisbane now has two very capable rucks so dropping Chol may not be a good idea. Obviously Lynch and Bolton in for Caddy and Ross. If Prestia is good then Aarts would be the one to go. Both Aarts and Caddy were injured so 100% fit players critical. Brisbane midfield is good so the strength of our existing mids plus Prestia and Bolton addresses that strength plus more. Remember they really struggle for a matchup on Dusty up forward so the extra mids become critical as he will play more forward and well and truely replace Aarts.
I think Nank has played on Martin before and did well in the ruck.they have another kid who pushes forward to .
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B: Balta, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Baker, Vlastuin, Short
C: Mc, Cotchin, Bolton
HF: Lambert, Jack, Rioli
F: Dusty, Lynch, Caddy
Foll: Nank, Edwards, Prestia
Int: Graham, Chol, Aarts, Pickett/Castagna
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The club's biggest selection headache ahead of the Lions clash is expected to centre on whether back-up ruckman Mabior Chol keeps his place with Lynch returning.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/510528/gun-tiger-faces-crucial-test-to-prove-finals-fitness)
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Since last year's finals series the Tigers' preferred structure has been to play four talls, and so you would think Mabior Chol survives, even if Lynch returns.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/afl-ladder-live-2020-who-will-play-finals-as-we-head-into-the-last-round-of-the-year/news-story/81f40704a9e2ea7814e7807ff024d7b6
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Handy 'headache': top Tigers return for Hardwick
By Peter Ryan
The Age
September 27, 2020 — 4.24pm
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick faces a massive selection "headache" ahead of Friday night's qualifying final, says his spearhead Jack Riewoldt, with three premiership stars set to return from injury.
Riewoldt expressed confidence on Sunday that his partner-in-crime Tom Lynch will recover from a hamstring injury suffered against Geelong exactly 21 days before the qualifying final while last year's best and fairest Dion Prestia and emerging midfield weapon Shai Bolton are also in the frame.
Prestia has not played since suffering an ankle injury in round five but impressed in a solid hitout on Saturday that indicated his syndesmosis problem was behind him.
Bolton has been among the Tigers' best this season after replacing Prestia in the middle with his clearance work a key factor behind Richmond's improved form since arriving in Queensland. He was managed for the Adelaide match and is certain to return.
"One of the injuries we don't speak about is the headache 'Dimma' is going to have when it comes to selection," Riewoldt said.
"It's obviously a tough one for players who have to make way for those three."
Riewoldt said every day was important to Lynch's recovery but he was on track to take on All-Australian Lion Harris Andrews, who was also recovering from a hamstring injury of his own.
"He's trained strongly on Saturday [doing] some high-speed running," Riewoldt said.
"He's given himself every chance to play. He'll train with the group on Monday and build his case from there."
Lynch, who kicked three goals against the Brisbane Lions when they met in round two, would likely replace Mabior Chol, while the unlucky Jack Ross could make way for Prestia.
Josh Caddy could also be under pressure to hold his spot with Kamdyn McIntosh bouncing back well from the disappointment of missing last year's finals to play every game since round four.
Riewoldt was looking forward to getting Prestia back into the team.
"Dion is right to go ... he has put himself in a great position to play," Riewoldt said.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/handy-headache-top-tigers-return-for-hardwick-20200927-p55zp2.html
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I reckon if Lynch doesn't play, Miller does.
So out: Chol, Ross, Caddy/Pickett
In: Miller/Lynch, Prestia, Bolton.
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CCJ! What an idiotic thing you’ve chosen to do. :rollin
Possibly could’ve been a finals revelation and new tiger star.
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Kmac & Pickett are locks. So the changes will be at the expense of Chol, Caddy & Ross.
Dimma said if Lynch doesn't come up then at this stage Chol or Caddy are there to play that role.
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I reckon if Lynch doesn't play, Miller does.
So out: Chol, Ross, Caddy/Pickett
In: Miller/Lynch, Prestia, Bolton.
Pickett is a starter for me.
Caddy if he's fit.
Chol and Ross out for Lunch and Prestia.
Bolton in for Castagna I would like to see.
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Pickett, like Rioli is a finals player...you don't drop them this time of year... :shh
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Who misses out at Richmond if Prestia, Lynch and Bolton come back in?
By SEN
28 September 2020
Selection headaches will be the big theme of this week heading into the first round of finals.
Chief among the teams with worries is Richmond, who need to slot Tom Lynch, Shai Bolton and Dion Prestia back into their line-up.
Lynch has missed time with a hamstring issue, Prestia hasn’t played since Round 5 with an ankle injury and Bolton had a minor calf complaint at the end of the season.
Bringing players in obviously means players come out and some will be unlucky to. Tim Watson believes in this “brutal” time of the year, you simply need to pick your best players.
“As a coach, this has to come into your mind, all those players that have got the job done during that period of time … those would be all the things you’re weighing up as a coach,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.
“You know you’ve got a mature player in Prestia and if he is physically right to play, he is a big time performer and he was one of their best in last year’s finals series.
“You know the bloke just gets the job done at the business end of the season.
“I would think culturally, given what they’ve been able to build over the last four years, they’re great in that area given the way they have handled these situations.
“But they’re still going to have the bloke who goes out (of the team) thinking ‘oh, well I got us here’.
“It is bad luck. When it comes down to it, this is brutal. It’s about playing your best team and this point of the year.”
Watson feels Jack Ross and Mabior Chol will miss out for the Tigers, with the third opening coming down to Josh Caddy or Marlion Pickett.
The former Essendon captain believes Caddy did enough in the final round of the season to hold his spot.
“Josh Caddy played that last game in the home and away series like somebody had told him unless you smash them you won’t be playing in that first final,” he said.
Garry Lyon agreed saying “Pickett at this stage” would be the Tiger who misses out.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/27/who-misses-out-at-richmond-if-prestia-lynch-and-bolton-come-back-in/
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Outs: Chol. Jack Ross (super unlucky), Jake Aarts (unlucky)
Ins: Lynch. Prestia. Bolton.
B: David Astbury, Dylan Grimes, Noah Balta
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Liam Baker
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett.
HF: Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards, Shai Bolton.
F: Jason Castagna, Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia.
I/C: Jayden Short, Daniel Rioli, Kane Lambert, Josh Caddy(lucky but proven in finals)
Emg: Oleg Markov, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Nathan Broad, Ben Miller, Mabior Chol, Jack Ross, Jake Aarts
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MOCK TEAMS: Who's playing finals, who's unlucky? We make the call
afl.com.au
28 September 2020
Friday, October 2
QUALIFYING FINAL TWO
Brisbane v Richmond, Gabba, 7.50pm AEST
Richmond
B: Dylan Grimes, David Astbury, Noah Balta
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Liam Baker
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett
HF: Jake Aarts, Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin
F: Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Rioli
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Shai Bolton
I/C: Jayden Short, Dion Prestia, Kane Lambert, Jason Castagna
Emerg: Josh Caddy, Oleg Markov, Jack Ross, Nathan Broad
In: Tom Lynch, Shai Bolton, Dion Prestia
Out: Josh Caddy, Mabior Chol, Jack Ross
UNAVAILABLE: Ivan Soldo (knee), Sydney Stack (suspension), Callum Coleman-Jones (suspension)
NOTES: Prestia is in the frame after he was finally declared fit from his ankle injury, which means Ross is the unlucky one. Rioli, Castagna and Aarts combined well at the right time of year against Adelaide, forcing Caddy out for Bolton. The tall/ruck situation is interesting. The Tigers have shown a preference for playing two rucks, but Chol was quite poor last week and Lynch needs to fit in somehow. - Sarah Black
Brisbane
B: Brandon Starcevich, Harris Andrews, Noah Answerth
HB: Grant Birchall, Darcy Gardiner, Daniel Rich
C: Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry, Mitch Robinson
HF: Dayne Zorko, Dan McStay, Cam Rayner
F: Oscar McInerney, Eric Hipwood, Charlie Cameron
Foll: Stefan Martin, Lachie Neale, Jarryd Lyons
I/C: Ryan Lester, Zac Bailey, Callum Ah Chee, Lincoln McCarthy
Emerg: Jack Payne, Mitch Hinge, Cam Ellis-Yolmen, Keidean Coleman
In: Harris Andrews, Noah Answerth, Jarrod Berry
Out: Jack Payne (omitted), Cam Ellis-Yolmen (omitted), Keidean Coleman (omitted)
UNAVAILABLE: Marcus Adams (foot)
NOTES: Andrews will have to get through training in the next few days to prove he's over his hamstring injury, while Berry (shoulder) is assured of playing. The tough decision comes with whether to reinstate Answerth in defence, who was managed in the final round, or stay with pressure forward Coleman, which would force in-form Ah Chee to switch from defence to the forward line. There's no wrong answer, but countering Richmond's fleet-footed forwards is critical to defeating them and could give Answerth the nod. - Michael Whiting
https://www.afl.com.au/news/510444/mock-teams-who-s-playing-finals-who-s-unlucky-we-make-the-call
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Hardwick bullish on Prestia finals impact
Shayne Hope
The Flinders News
28 September 2020
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has no concerns about throwing Dion Prestia straight into a high-pressure AFL qualifying final after a three-month injury lay-off.
Prestia went through complications after surgery on his ankle syndesmosis injury and has not played a senior match since round five.
But the Tigers' reigning best-and-fairest has impressed at training and in match simulation over the past few days.
He has been cleared to play against Brisbane at the Gabba on Friday night.
"He was very good in our scrimmage that we had on the weekend and trained strongly again today," Hardwick said on Monday.
"He hasn't played for a long period of time but he's got a fair base behind him.
"He's been in the system for 10-odd years, so he's got a good understanding of what he can and can't do.
"The shortened quarters and the same numbers of interchange will certainly be of benefit, but we're very confident he'll play a good brand of footy for us."
Key forward Tom Lynch (hamstring) is also pushing to return from injury and resumed high-speed running over the weekend.
He ticked another box on Monday when he completed everything required of him at a skills session on the Gold Coast.
"We'll have another session on Wednesday which will answer a few more of those questions, but at the moment it's looking promising," Hardwick said.
"He's obviously a very important player to the way we structure up and the way we play.
"Our medical staff will make the right call, whether they deem it's appropriate that he plays or not."
Hardwick said Mabior Chol and Josh Caddy are leading the race to take Lynch's spot if Richmond's equal-leading goalkicker is not passed fit.
It will then come down to a question of structure as the Tigers weigh up how many talls to take into the match.
"We've got an ideal look that it may be, but that's not to say that it won't differ with different personnel with those guys coming back," Hardwick said.
"We're working our way through that at this stage.
"We'll wait until we've got some more information with regards to Tom and how he progresses on Wednesday."
https://www.theflindersnews.com.au/story/6944931/hardwick-bullish-on-prestia-finals-impact/
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Lynch officially out. So do they stick with a out of form Chol, or spring the Miller surprise?
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Lynch officially out. So do they stick with a out of form Chol, or spring the Miller surprise?
Or play Caddy forward?
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Lynch officially out. So do they stick with a out of form Chol, or spring the Miller surprise?
Or play Caddy forward?
Maybe, but personally I'd stick with a tall as back-up for Nank and forward option. Leaving Pickett out gives us both options. Tough on Marlion tho.
I like the early rule out of Lynch - gives us certainty and pressures Brisbane on Andrews - do they leave him out too with Lynch not playing or take the risk?
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Strange call Dimma said ticked all the boxes and tracking well and has till Wednesday.Gez we copped so much injuries this year.
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In: Bolton, Prestia
Out: Ross, Chol (or caddy if he’s unavailable)
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If his not fit right call.As much as I wasn't happy with Chol 's intensity he has to play.We need that tall that's been our setup all year even if he plays still one tall short from normal.I would have Chol relief Nank ruck and push Nank forward who is more then capable up there and vice versa.Chol looked lost sitting permanent forward give him spirts.
Then Caddy up forward he works well with Jack and takes a good defender is he over his injuries tho.Martin can play forward at times as midfield is loaded now.I wouldn't drop Ross tho he that extra hard body we need in and under.
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Interesting times for selection. I would be happy to leave Caddy in the team to play forward. This would be in addition to Chol playing deep and ruck. I just think this would make their backs work harder and not be all over Jack.
So who comes out for Bolton and Prestia?
Ross?
Who?
Or maybe we revert to the 2017 forward model...
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We could just play Dusty forward most of the game as Bolton and Prestia will provide extra midfield polish...
Caddy to miss in this instance.
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We could just play Dusty forward most of the game as Bolton and Prestia will provide extra midfield polish...
Caddy to miss in this instance.
Wouldn't drop Caddy if fit works well with Jack plays like a tall takes a good defender and make a them accountable his proven it in past.
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In Bolton, Prestia
Out Houli, Caddy
Think Chol has to play to keep structure
Ross & Aarts keep there spots.
Going to be interesting
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Would people consider this , would have said no to it cause he looks home at fullback Balta but Lynch out and with Dave there and Grimes lions big forward is Hippwood and the young ruck who pushes there doesn't scream out dangerous maybe flick the switch if need to or others suggest Broad in took Hippwood to cleaners last time and Balta moved.
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Would people consider this , would have said no to it cause he looks home at fullback Balta but Lynch out and with Dave there and Grimes lions big forward is Hippwood and the young ruck who pushes there doesn't scream out dangerous maybe flick the switch if need to or others suggest Broad in took Hippwood to cleaners last time and Balta moved.
I'd like to get broad in as 3rd tall.
Balta backup ruck/try forward maybe.
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Will keep the lions guessing till names announced our forward structure a few options.
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Hutchy said with Lynch out, he would play Andrews on Dusty (when forward) and Starcevich on Jack as Jack hasn't had that good a year.
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B: Balta, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Baker, Vlastuin, Short
C: Mc, Cotchin, Bolton
HF: Lambert, Jack, Rioli
F: Dusty, Chol, Caddy
Foll: Nank, Edwards, Prestia
Int: Graham, , Aarts, Pickett,Castagna
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Predicted teams: AFL finals week 1
September 29, 2020
Max Laughton
FOX SPORTS
TIGERS
B: David Astbury, Dylan Grimes, Noah Balta
HB: Liam Baker, Nick Vlastuin, Bachar Houli
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett
HF: Dion Prestia, Kane Lambert, Jake Aarts
F: Mabior Chol, Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin
FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Shai Bolton, Jason Castagna, Jayden Short, Josh Caddy
Analysis:
As always, the Tigers are spoiled for choice, and it makes tipping who’ll miss very difficult. Dion Prestia is expected to be fit and would probably replace Jack Ross, while Shai Bolton needs a spot too. Is Josh Caddy the unlucky one, or perhaps Jake Aarts or Daniel Rioli? Caddy played hard in the final round to make his case. It could also be Marlion Pickett, even though he and Kamdyn McIntosh have locked down those two wing spots. It’ll be tricky to squeeze Tom Lynch into this side once he’s fit, because the Tigers have gone with two rucks in every game since Round 5, but he was ruled out on Monday
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Still in a quandary over who will replace Lynch.
From a structural point of view, it can only be Chol as he can ruck and play forward. However, his lack of competitiveness in the Adelaide game was so unacceptable he deserves to be dropped.
Caddy, on the hand, is mostly reliable and always gives a contest (Dimma loves him too). Yet he changes the team structure we've had all year if he plays forward and Jack is the sole genuine tall forward and Nank is our sole ruckman.
Got a feeling given we've got the double chance, Dimma will back Chol to respond after a bad game to preserve our team structure as that will be seen as most important. We always seem to back our team structure no matter what and no matter who the individual players in the team are. Dimma to give Mabs a pre-game rocket to stand up and compete in every contest. Either it will be the making of him and he gets to play in a flag as 2nd ruck even upon Lynch's return or Mabs won't be at Punt Rd in 2021.
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Still in a quandary over who will replace Lynch.
From a structural point of view, it can only be Chol as he can ruck and play forward. However, his lack of competitiveness in the Adelaide game was so unacceptable he deserves to be dropped.
Caddy, on the hand, is mostly reliable and always gives a contest (Dimma loves him too). Yet he changes the team structure we've had all year if he plays forward and Jack is the sole genuine tall forward and Nank is our sole ruckman.
Got a feeling given we've got the double chance, Dimma will back Chol to respond after a bad game to preserve our team structure as that will be seen as most important. We always seem to back our team structure no matter what and no matter who the individual players in the team are. Dimma to give Mabs a pre-game rocket to stand up and compete in every contest. Either it will be the making of him and he gets to play in a flag as 2nd ruck even upon Lynch's return or Mabs won't be at Punt Rd in 2021.
Our structure can remain the same if Chol plays with 2 talls.Nsnk.or Chol rest up there with Jack.
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Still in a quandary over who will replace Lynch.
From a structural point of view, it can only be Chol as he can ruck and play forward. However, his lack of competitiveness in the Adelaide game was so unacceptable he deserves to be dropped.
Caddy, on the hand, is mostly reliable and always gives a contest (Dimma loves him too). Yet he changes the team structure we've had all year if he plays forward and Jack is the sole genuine tall forward and Nank is our sole ruckman.
Got a feeling given we've got the double chance, Dimma will back Chol to respond after a bad game to preserve our team structure as that will be seen as most important. We always seem to back our team structure no matter what and no matter who the individual players in the team are. Dimma to give Mabs a pre-game rocket to stand up and compete in every contest. Either it will be the making of him and he gets to play in a flag as 2nd ruck even upon Lynch's return or Mabs won't be at Punt Rd in 2021.
Our structure can remain the same if Chol plays with 2 talls.Nsnk.or Chol rest up there with Jack.
I agree with that, georgies. Our structure would not remain if Chol doesn't play.
My quandary is that if Mabs dishes out another Adelaide MIA game on Friday night then we're effectively a man down again. If he plays, Mabs needs a pre-game rocket from Dimma that his AFL career is on the line or at least throw the carrot that there's a premiership medallion for the taking in 3 games time. Don't end up like CCJ regretting a missed opportunity (albeit the latter was due to off-field antics). We just need Mabs to realise he needs to turn up and compete.
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Still in a quandary over who will replace Lynch.
From a structural point of view, it can only be Chol as he can ruck and play forward. However, his lack of competitiveness in the Adelaide game was so unacceptable he deserves to be dropped.
Caddy, on the hand, is mostly reliable and always gives a contest (Dimma loves him too). Yet he changes the team structure we've had all year if he plays forward and Jack is the sole genuine tall forward and Nank is our sole ruckman.
Got a feeling given we've got the double chance, Dimma will back Chol to respond after a bad game to preserve our team structure as that will be seen as most important. We always seem to back our team structure no matter what and no matter who the individual players in the team are. Dimma to give Mabs a pre-game rocket to stand up and compete in every contest. Either it will be the making of him and he gets to play in a flag as 2nd ruck even upon Lynch's return or Mabs won't be at Punt Rd in 2021.
Our structure can remain the same if Chol plays with 2 talls.Nsnk.or Chol rest up there with Jack.
I agree with that, georgies. Our structure would not remain if Chol doesn't play.
My quandary is that if Mabs dishes out another Adelaide MIA game on Friday night then we're effectively a man down again. If he plays, Mabs needs a pre-game rocket from Dimma that his AFL career is on the line or at least throw the carrot that there's a premiership medallion for the taking in 3 games time. Don't end up like CCJ regretting a missed opportunity (albeit the latter was due to off-field antics). We just need Mabs to realise he needs to turn up and compete.
Yep correct my only concern his intensity and desire.Hopefully rocket by Dimma wakes him up.Talent there just work rate and confidence.If you told me we had a shot after the siren who would it be I tell you Chol.All we need is a contest and urgency.I don't like him as a permanent forward gets lost the ruck and drifting role suits him.
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Still in a quandary over who will replace Lynch.
From a structural point of view, it can only be Chol as he can ruck and play forward. However, his lack of competitiveness in the Adelaide game was so unacceptable he deserves to be dropped.
Caddy, on the hand, is mostly reliable and always gives a contest (Dimma loves him too). Yet he changes the team structure we've had all year if he plays forward and Jack is the sole genuine tall forward and Nank is our sole ruckman.
Got a feeling given we've got the double chance, Dimma will back Chol to respond after a bad game to preserve our team structure as that will be seen as most important. We always seem to back our team structure no matter what and no matter who the individual players in the team are. Dimma to give Mabs a pre-game rocket to stand up and compete in every contest. Either it will be the making of him and he gets to play in a flag as 2nd ruck even upon Lynch's return or Mabs won't be at Punt Rd in 2021.
Our structure can remain the same if Chol plays with 2 talls.Nsnk.or Chol rest up there with Jack.
I agree with that, georgies. Our structure would not remain if Chol doesn't play.
My quandary is that if Mabs dishes out another Adelaide MIA game on Friday night then we're effectively a man down again. If he plays, Mabs needs a pre-game rocket from Dimma that his AFL career is on the line or at least throw the carrot that there's a premiership medallion for the taking in 3 games time. Don't end up like CCJ regretting a missed opportunity (albeit the latter was due to off-field antics). We just need Mabs to realise he needs to turn up and compete.
Yep correct my only concern his intensity and desire.Hopefully rocket by Dimma wakes him up.Talent there just work rate and confidence.If you told me we had a shot after the siren who would it be I tell you Chol. All we need is a contest and urgency. [/b]I don't like him as a permanent forward gets lost the ruck and drifting role suits him[/b].
Agree georgie. As you suggested Mabs needs to rotate with Nank between ruck and the forward line. He's better suited to the follower role and then pinch-hitting up forward.
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Captain's run now [see training thread for training vision link] has the 22 from last week plus Prestia, Bolton, Broad & Markov.
Defenders: Astbury, Baker, Balta, Broad, Grimes, Houli, Markov, Short, Vlastuin.
Mids: Bolton, Cotch, Edwards, Graham, Lambert, Kmac, Nank, Pickett, Prestia, Ross.
Forwards: Aarts, Caddy, Castagna, Chol, Martin, Riewoldt, Rioli.