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HAVE THE TIGERS MADE THEIR INTENTIONS CLEAR WITH TARRANT PURSUIT?
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
21 September 2021
Could Richmond challenge again in 2022?
The Tigers fell to 12th on the ladder this season following three premierships in four years, but have quickly made their intentions clear for next season.
With news that Robbie Tarrant has informed North Melbourne he hopes to join the Tigers as an unrestricted free agent, it shows that perhaps the 2017, 2019 and 2020 premiers are planning to pursue more success.
Healy is confident that Damien Hardwick’s side is still right in the window to challenge for another flag.
McClure asked: “Do you think that Richmond are a genuine chance of winning the flag next year?”
Healy replied: “I do, why wouldn’t they be?
“They had a poor year, they were entitled to have a poor year, Dusty (Martin) had an average year by his own standards. He started brilliantly.
“I thought they dropped right off in various areas, they probably lost a little bit of hunger, they got some injuries, lost a bit of focus.
“Nothing will sharpen them up more than missing out on finals like this. I think there’s at least another crack left in that group.”
Richmond will get Noah Balta and Nathan Broad back in 2022 after serious ankle injuries ended their 2021 season prematurely. Ben Miller, 22, is also on the list as a key defensive option but has played just one AFL game.
Alongside Astbury, the Tigers also lost Bachar Houli to retirement and appear to be looking to replenish their experienced stocks while the likes of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and Shane Edwards remain on the list.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/21/have-tigers-made-their-intentions-clear-with-tarrant-pursuit/
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Put a fit Meatie, Dusty, Lambda, Shedda,
Broad and Balta, top it off with Tarrent and hope like crazy the RCD can step into an elite level and we have the makings of a bounce.
Add a ready made pick 7, 15 and potentially 20 if we can wrench that off the Roos and we have some midfield x factor from the draft.
An extra 5 weeks off to freshen is just what the senior players would relish to come back hard next year.
I hope we rejuvenate the coaching ranks beyond Teague, reckon Dimma needs a foil tactically on match day.
Hopefully we have some money in the soft cap to help out there.
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Throw the sink boys.
I don't mind an extra decade in the wilderness if we can squeeze another flag out of this core.
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Hardwick, however, believes there is a definite silver lining to Richmond’s finals absence this year.
"It’s tough . . . even the first week of finals,” Hardwick told Fox Footy’s AFL 360.
"It (the season) comes to a sudden halt.
"Your mind’s just fully entrenched with what you’re doing and your program’s in place, your routine. And then, all of a sudden, it just stops."
"It is a challenge, but it makes you crave for it even more," he said.
"Look, it is good every now and then, to get a kick in the backside, and it’s what we have had this year . . .
"I’ll guarantee you we’ll come out hungry, and I can’t wait to get back into it already.
"Really excited about what we’re going to offer next year."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1019616/dimma-down-but-itching-to-get-back
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Barrett says 2022 will be Richmond going all in one more time given it will be Riewoldt's last season and that we're bringing in Tarrant to replace Astbury (which he likes). We'll be hoping we don't get all the injuries we got this year.
Listen at 6:45 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/news/682320/listen-confident-cat-has-the-talent-to-replace-cerra
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Hocking’s new rules have really hurt us. It’s all about midfield dominance now, especially winning centre clearances. It’s much harder to restrict teams and cause turnovers through team defense which was obviously our big strength. Dimma used to talk about not caring much about centre clearances as long as the opposition aren’t getting “clean” takeaways, but I doubt that he still feels that way. The Dees won on the weekend by dominating the middle of the ground from half way through the third term. Watching it made me more pessimistic about a “bounce” for us next year. I think we can be competitive, but I don’t think we have enough midfield quality to seriously challenge. I’m tipping that by the end of next year we will be more clearly in a “rebuild” phase and that’s OK. Hopefully we can find one or two of the next core group in this draft.
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The AFL & it's broadcasters basically just want a centre bounce game with minimum possessions per goal and maximum ad breaks. :shh
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It will be nearly all ads and cricket scores wth these rubbish rules
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The AFL & it's broadcasters basically just want a centre bounce game with minimum possessions per goal and maximum ad breaks. :shh
Yep. :(
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Five outsiders who could soar to premiership glory in 2022
Casey McCarthy
zerohanger.com
30 September 2021
Richmond
The Tigers have one eye on their long-term future after Trent Cotchin relinquished the captaincy for next year, but apart from Bachar Houli and David Astbury, the same names that won three flags in four years will go on again in 2022.
North Melbourne veteran Robbie Tarrant will join Punt Road next season, fitting in nicely for retirees Houli and Astbury.
The Tigers should remain a threat in the competition and won't be taken lightly after a lean season in 2021. They suffered numerous injuries, including star Dustin Martin, who was wiped out from Round 18 onward.
The Tigers re-invented the model for premiership success in 2017 by playing a high-pressure, selfless and hardened brand of football. They will expect to tweak that over the off-season to bounce back into the finals.
Richmond's 2021 playing list had an average age of 24.8 years and 73.7 games played per name, making them the fourth most experienced club in the league.
https://www.zerohanger.com/five-outsiders-who-could-soar-to-premiership-glory-in-2022-91668/
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Matt Rendell has urged other clubs not to forget about Richmond in 2022, tipping them to bounce back big time in his list analysis.
Listen here: https://media.whooshkaa.com/show/9121/episode/910585.mp3
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"They're going to rebound straight back up to the top 4 again, don't you worry about that."
"This team's a flag winning team, barring all the injuries."
"No doubt he [Dustin Martin] could kick 60 goals in a year playing as a forward."
"They're in a super position to regenerate with this draft hand they've got, there should be a really big watch on what they're going to do."
"Richmond are going to have their busiest offseason ever this year."
Matty Rendell's song for Richmond: Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A
- Stephen Silvagni on Richmond.
"They've done really well, to win three premierships and then have four picks inside the top 30. They've got the chance, if they pick well, to set their club up again."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column today:
IF ...
season 2021 didn't go to plan ...
THEN ...
a rejuvenated Dusty and four national draft picks inside the top 30 is the start of great hope for 2022.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/682652/sliding-doors-if-it-was-a-shock-to-some-that-big-boy-was-captain-for-2021-then
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Adam Cooney gives his thoughts on Richmond's premiership chances next year.
Listen: https://media.whooshkaa.com/show/9121/episode/911746.mp3
* 4 flags is the new dynasty number as a number of clubs have won three.
* Depth was tested this year. Young players that came in didn't have the impact unlike previous years. Add the fatigue factor too.
* Ticks for 2021:
Bolton - punch cost him the B&F.
Rioli across HB.
Graham
Baker
Grimes
Youngsters Dow, RCD, Ross playing more footy.
Short & Balta in defence.
* Question marks:
Pickett, Castagna, McIntosh, Broad - question marks over all of them.
Age/Injuries - Will Cotch remain in the midfield and how much footy has he got left? Prestia?
Will Vlastuin go to the next level as he needs to for them to contend?
Depth will be weakened again with Houli, Astbury, Chol & CCJ going.
* 2022:
Need to improve their clearance work (18th) and contested possessions (17th).
Do they go after a bigger body like Luke Dunstan to help with that?
* Strong draft haul. Even if they fall away next year they will set themselves up for the next 6-7 years.
* Captaincy - Grimes or Vlastuin.
* Prediction for 2022:
Sam Edmund - they'll make the top 8 but not challenge for the flag. Cruelled by injuries this year.
Cooney - top 8 but not top 4.
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Yeah yeah change the rules for a dynasty after we’ve achieved it.
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Biggest concern is the better players are all one year older and age is really showing with a lot of em.
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Lol at 4 being the new dynasty number. He really needs to get over Brownlow night
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On the thread topic i dont think we can but the club itself certainly is thinking that way.
Really need another big ball winning mid and a clearance machine to compliment what we have to even contemplate winning another flag imo.
Even with Tarrant we lose one key defender or one key forward and we have the ability to cover them.
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Yes a lot of our best players were drafted when we had top 20 picks, a very important draft this one
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Dal Santo on Fox Footy's Trading Day show tonight said Richmond struggled this year in the clearances and contested footy and to fix that they should go all out and get Tom Mitchell and Jaeger O'Meara. Richmond supporters would understand doing that to get a fourth flag in six years next year even if it leads to a decade in the wilderness after 2022.
Jon Ralph (the media's Tiger supporter) said he'd be happy if the club got Tom Mitchell. He could handle a decade out in the wilderness as we spent 1983-2016 in the wilderness which were bleak years.
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Media is obsessed with getting Tom Mitchell to Richmond
No thanks
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No from me as well. Lets just get 5 kids and Tarrant and look
forward yo 2022.
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Geelong had that great idea, get a few more 30 years olds in, sure to win a GF.
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What’s with all this “out in the wilderness” talk that’s been going around about us? As a supporter born in the early 90s I can categorically say that I would not be ok with another period of mediocracy like what I witnessed in the first 25 years of my life.
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I was not born in the 90's. I would happily watch the RFC come last in 2022, 2023, and 2024, if it meant getting the next Cotchin, Martin, Rance, and Riewoldt. We would have to get players as good as them though. No Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Aaron Fiora, or Kayne Pettifer's.
However, given what we have on our list I'd swap pick 7 for Mitchell. We have to fire bullets while we still have guns.
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I was not born in the 90's. I would happily watch the RFC come last in 2022, 2023, and 2024, if it meant getting the next Cotchin, Martin, Rance, and Riewoldt. We would have to get players as good as them though. No Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Aaron Fiora, or Kayne Pettifer's.
However, given what we have on our list I'd swap pick 7 for Mitchell. We have to fire bullets while we still have guns.
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Thanks for talking sense
Still talent on the list. Need to have a go next year and then probably pack it in when Cotch, Jack, Dusty, Grimes etc are done.
I doubt we'd ever see another period of mediocrity that long again. Club is much better run nowadays.
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Mitchell isnt the difference for us between winning or not winning the flag.
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Mitchell isnt the difference for us between winning or not winning the flag.
Is there any single individual that is?
I think he would help. Think I said it elsewhere - we need an extractor who takes the pressure off Cotch and Prestia + releases Dusty + Bolton to the forward line.
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Mitchell isnt the difference for us between winning or not winning the flag.
Is there any single individual that is?
I think he would help. Think I said it elsewhere - we need an extractor who takes the pressure off Cotch and Prestia + releases Dusty + Bolton to the forward line.
I question if he would help
For a long period of time we were critical of Cotch always kicking backwards or little dinky kicks forward.
Mitchell does that alot. I'd be interested in his metres gained stats for his 35-40 possessions per game
My personal view is he isn't worth pick 7. I'd only be giving up pick 7 if it means we use to it in a package to get a better first round pick
We have talent, we have kids that can play the inside mid role, they just need more games to get the experience to do it. I'd much rather back them and our ability to fast track their development rather than bring in a Tom Mitchell.
Best way for these kids to learn is to learn from the Cotchs, Dustys and Prestias not watching Tom Mitchell play AFL while they run around in the VFL
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We suck at clearances. Mitchell is elite at clearances.
Not necessarily saying we should get him, but I think there is a clear argument that he would improve our team.
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I also wouldn't use 7 WP.
15 yes.
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Ross did a good job playing Cotch's role against Hawthorn as the defensive Midfielder we don't need to give up a good pick to help Hawthorn rebuild.
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'Richmond have seven picks under 47, they're in an interesting phase. Do they go again or build for the future? With Tarrant coming in, I think they do a bit of both.'
- Matthew Lloyd
https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1445858648400424966
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To answer the question - Dustin Martin.
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Tigers have ‘no choice’ but to push for a flag NOW... even if it means ‘10 years’ of pain later
Ronny Lerner
Fox Sports
October 7th, 2021 4:07 pm
A pair of star Hawthorn midfielders could be just what Richmond need to win a fourth flag in six years next season, according to former St Kilda and North Melbourne star Nick Dal Santo.
After going back-to-back in 2020, and claiming their third premiership in four seasons, the Tigers became just the third reigning premiers in the past 20 years to miss out on the finals this year.
Injuries to numerous key players played their part in that, and Richmond still have a large core of premiership players on their list heading into next season.
Dal Santo reckons the acquisition of Tom Mitchell and/or Jaeger O’Meara could put them right back in contention for another premiership.
And with five picks in the first two rounds of this year’s draft (7, 15, 26, 28 and 38), Dal Santo thinks Richmond are in a good position to trade in at least one of those players.
“They have no choice but to go (for a flag) again,” Dal Santo told Fox Footy’s Trading Day.
“You can go in there (Hawthorn), knock on (new coach) Sam Mitchell’s door and say, ‘Can we please have one of your really good players?’ I’m thinking Tom Mitchell, I’m thinking O’Meara as well.”
As good as Richmond have been in the past five years, their stoppage work hasn’t been great, and Dal Santo believes that’s where Mitchell and/or O’Meara could step in.
“They (Hawthorn) have got two guys there that are a proven product,” he said.
“They love putting their nose over the football and they love giving it to people on the outside.
“I would not be angry or disappointed if I was a Tigers supporter. I’d say, ‘I get it, we’re going for four premierships in six years, if that means we’re not going to be great or competitive for 10 years, I can cop that’.
“Use one of those picks ... to go one more time.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-trade-news-2021-richmond-trade-plans-trading-for-tom-mitchell-or-jaeger-omeara-hawthorn-rebuild-using-draft-picks/news-story/a75f012c3b84aa2d32cd22a3d0e2ea8a
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We could end up in the wilderness again and alot longer than 10 years too. Essendon Carlton 2 prime examples. Take to the draft get the kids and do it the right way. Aint no guarantee we win the flag in 22 by bringing in Mitchell or O'Meara.
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Clubs deluding themselves that they are in contention when they are not and topping up their list at the expense of the draft is a one way trip into a long wilderness. We learnt that the hard way back in the 90s & 00s. Dal Santo clearly didn't learn this lesson despite being at two clubs (St Kilda & North) that made that exact same mistake.
No doubt we'll hope for better luck injury wise in 2022 and try to aim for another flag but it must not come at the expense of our next decade. Hit the pointy end of the draft and make sure we're on the path to rebuilding and contending with a new talented group later this decade. Sustained finals finishes leads to flags not desperate one hit hopes in wonder attempts.
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Absolutely right
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What we should be doing is looking at our northern development team to find the next Prestia.
Their salary cap must be bursting by now.
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I'd take Anderson, Bowes & Powell.... :shh
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Clubs deluding themselves that they are in contention when they are not and topping up their list at the expense of the draft is a one way trip into a long wilderness.
Agree, if they are deluding themselves. Were we deluding ourselves when we gave up pick six for Prestia? I thought we were at the time. Guess I was wrong in hindsight. We just needed that little bit more ommph and class that Prestia provided (Nank and Caddy did not hurt either), plus growth from our existing youngsters. We topped up rather than 'build' through the draft. Thank heavens we weren't in charge.
Sustained finals finishes leads to flags not desperate one hit hopes in wonder attempts.
No it does not. Geelong has had sustained finals finishes lately (no flag), North Melbourne did (no flag), St Kilda made the finals every year except 2006 from 2004 until 2011. They have still have not won a flag for 55 years.
To win a flag you need the right mix of players, at the right time, and a lot of luck. We have a mix that is pretty close to right for right now, as evidenced by winning 3 out of the last 5 premierships. I believe the RFC owes it to the players currently on the list to make one more big push to win another flag now, not sustain finals finishes. Who feels we had successful years when we were knocked out of the finals in week 1 in 2013, 2014, and 2015?
If we do not make finals for a few years but win the whole thing in 2022 I can live with a few more years in the wilderness.
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From Damien Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
IF ...
the Tigers think that without some big name additions they're going back to a Grand Final in 2022 ...
THEN ...
they're kidding themselves. Mind you, I said their 2019 flag chances were cooked the morning after Rance went down in round one that year, so I've been horrendously wrong on a claim about this mob before.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/683205/if-hawthorn-has-been-quiet-in-the-trade-period-then
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Clubs deluding themselves that they are in contention when they are not and topping up their list at the expense of the draft is a one way trip into a long wilderness.
Agree, if they are deluding themselves. Were we deluding ourselves when we gave up pick six for Prestia? I thought we were at the time. Guess I was wrong in hindsight. We just needed that little bit more ommph and class that Prestia provided (Nank and Caddy did not hurt either), plus growth from our existing youngsters. We topped up rather than 'build' through the draft. Thank heavens we weren't in charge.
Sustained finals finishes leads to flags not desperate one hit hopes in wonder attempts.
No it does not. Geelong has had sustained finals finishes lately (no flag), North Melbourne did (no flag), St Kilda made the finals every year except 2006 from 2004 until 2011. They have still have not won a flag for 55 years.
To win a flag you need the right mix of players, at the right time, and a lot of luck. We have a mix that is pretty close to right for right now, as evidenced by winning 3 out of the last 5 premierships. I believe the RFC owes it to the players currently on the list to make one more big push to win another flag now, not sustain finals finishes. Who feels we had successful years when we were knocked out of the finals in week 1 in 2013, 2014, and 2015?
If we do not make finals for a few years but win the whole thing in 2022 I can live with a few more years in the wilderness.
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Have said it before - I trust the current club management to make the right call.
If they throw the sink at another flag they have my support. But I really don't think we can do it without another solid mid or two, or at least a mid and decent medium forward.
I genuinely don't think the club will be crap for another 37 years again. Much more professionally run now.
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Our biggest issue won’t be going away next year.
Everyone is older and importantly slower. Clearances you would think would import be with soldo.
I just don’t see anyone stepping up with the exception of RCD.
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Tarrant is better than Astbury. Hopefully 2 or 3 of our next set of draftees coming up will play games and add depth.
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Jordan Lewis says: For me Richmond are clearly identifying they’re still in the window; I think they’re still in the window, they were hampered through the season with injuries. Sometimes there’s a player that comes along that just fits the specific need that you have as a football club and Robbie Tarrant was that player. They’ll be right up to it in their ears, they’re ready to go again, they’re realistic with where they’re at.
Foxfooty.com.au says: Traded in Tarrant for much-needed defensive reinforcement after the retirements of Bachar Houli and David Astbury, but lost promising key-position pair Chol and Coleman-Jones. Armed with arguably the best hand at this year’s draft with four picks inside the top 30, they’re angling for a fifth top-30 selection. Richmond also acquired a future second-round pick from the Kangaroos as part of the Tarrant deal. Salary cap pressure probably means they can’t afford to bring across a much-needed stoppage player like Hawthorn’s Tom Mitchell.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-expert-trade-verdict-on-every-club-stars-they-could-still-target/news-story/6d7bffbeae937bf3cf27ffd85d900782
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Personally, I think we made some cuts to the team that started to hurt morale and cohesion despite people thinking they were expendables. We had a tough fast unit and now we look like a bucket of poo that gets out Tigered by , well almost everyone this year. Personally I don't see us having another crack next year, the oldies are slowing down big time and Melbourne look ridiculously OP. If they maintain their run next year, they will come in at a canter without breaking a sweat. We are up to our necks in salary cap pressure with poachers sniffing around. Our problem is a lot of our players were well trained for roles and not super stars where teams like Melbourne and GWS have been plundering top draft picks for years. Fortunately, they mostly couldn't organise a chook raffle until recently.
I hope I am dead set wrong. Ill eat humble pie with glee, done it before.
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Personally, I think we made some cuts to the team that started to hurt morale and cohesion despite people thinking they were expendables. We had a tough fast unit and now we look like a bucket of poo that gets out Tigered by , well almost everyone this year. Personally I don't see us having another crack next year, the oldies are slowing down big time and Melbourne look ridiculously OP. If they maintain their run next year, they will come in at a canter without breaking a sweat. We are up to our necks in salary cap pressure with poachers sniffing around. Our problem is a lot of our players were well trained for roles and not super stars where teams like Melbourne and GWS have been plundering top draft picks for years. Fortunately, they mostly couldn't organise a chook raffle until recently.
I hope I am dead set wrong. Ill eat humble pie with glee, done it before.
At the end of every season, there’s always the notion that the premier is set for an era of dominance but that is very rarely the case. Since the formation of the AFL in 1990, across 32 seasons, only 4 teams (Adelaide 97-98, Brisbane 01-03, Hawthorn 13-15 & Richmond 19-20) have managed to defend their premiership the following year. Sure Melbourne look strong and they’ll rightly start flag favourites but history suggests it’s very unlikely that they’ll repeat.
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Personally, I think we made some cuts to the team that started to hurt morale and cohesion despite people thinking they were expendables. We had a tough fast unit and now we look like a bucket of poo that gets out Tigered by , well almost everyone this year. Personally I don't see us having another crack next year, the oldies are slowing down big time and Melbourne look ridiculously OP. If they maintain their run next year, they will come in at a canter without breaking a sweat. We are up to our necks in salary cap pressure with poachers sniffing around. Our problem is a lot of our players were well trained for roles and not super stars where teams like Melbourne and GWS have been plundering top draft picks for years. Fortunately, they mostly couldn't organise a chook raffle until recently.
I hope I am dead set wrong. Ill eat humble pie with glee, done it before.
You may be right or you never know. Like I say to other people we took our chance with 2 hands 3 flags and back to back now we need to rejuvenate and draft some kids no big deal.
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At the end of every season, there’s always the notion that the premier is set for an era of dominance but that is very rarely the case. Since the formation of the AFL in 1990, across 32 seasons, only 4 teams (Adelaide 97-98, Brisbane 01-03, Hawthorn 13-15 & Richmond 19-20) have managed to defend their premiership the following year. Sure Melbourne look strong and they’ll rightly start flag favourites but history suggests it’s very unlikely that they’ll repeat.
Very true. A lot has to go right.
Dees list hasn't changed massively between 2020-21, so most of their improvement came from within.
A harder draw in 2022, throw in an injury here and there, and they won't find it so easy being 'the hunted'.
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I think Tarrant is better than Astbury and we will improve in defence with him. Balta will come back, we need kids like Riley Collier Dawkins, Hugo Ralphsmith to develop further and add depth to midfield, Maurice Rioli to continue his development as well and we need at least our 2 first round draft picks this year to play games and and play to a high level. We need some luck. As long as Dusty comes back and is ok we are always a chance during finals. We are not out of it.
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Do we think there's another flag in the list with the likes of Cotch, Grimes, Dusty and Jack getting older?
Would Tom Mitchell and Jaeger O'Meara add the sort of midfield depth we need to have a crack? Clear weak spot for me. Depth here means guys like Dusty and Bolton stay forward more.
I'm not suggesting this but just putting it out there...
7 + 15 for Mitchell and JOM, with Hawks to pay half their salaries.
Swap our 38 + 40 to Pies for 27. Draft with 26 + 27 + 28. See if we could get guys like Freeman and Schlensog with late picks.
Grimes Tarrant Vlastuin
Broad Balta Rioli
Short Lambert KMac
Stack Lynch Bolton
Dusty Jack Baker
Fol Nank, Cotch, Prestia
IC Mitchell, O'Meara, Graham, Soldo
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Do we think there's another flag in the list with the likes of Cotch, Grimes, Dusty and Jack getting older?
Would Tom Mitchell and Jaeger O'Meara add the sort of midfield depth we need to have a crack? Clear weak spot for me. Depth here means guys like Dusty and Bolton stay forward more.
I'm not suggesting this but just putting it out there...
7 + 15 for Mitchell and JOM, with Hawks to pay half their salaries.
Swap our 38 + 40 to Pies for 27. Draft with 26 + 27 + 28. See if we could get guys like Freeman and Schlensog with late picks.
Grimes Tarrant Vlastuin
Broad Balta Rioli
Short Lambert KMac
Stack Lynch Bolton
Dusty Jack Baker
Fol Nank, Cotch, Prestia
IC Mitchell, O'Meara, Graham, Soldo
Sounds good, but where do Ross M Rioli and RCD fit into the plan, very frustrating for them to see that scenario, then they leave. I think that while a flag is the ultimate goal we need to see our internal players given games or else they will walk like CCJ
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Keep the picks people. Its the future of our club here. Trust in Clark to do a good job. His finally got a good draft hand to work with. Go the draft 100% committed.
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Have the Tigers had their last dance or is there another flag tilt awaiting?
Richmond has a strong draft hand, is it time to focus on the kids or go for one last premiership?
By Jake Benoiton
zerohanger.com
October 10, 2021
The Tigers fell from premiers to the middle of the road and out of the finals picture in 2021. It was a dramatic drop for the reigning champions who had become so reliable in the last five years.
Now in the off-season, they have lost a pair of young highly talented stalls and recruited a veteran defender. Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol departed the club for North Melbourne and Gold Coast respectively. While Kangaroo defender Robbie Tarrant has come across on a two-year deal.
The Tigers have a stacked draft hand as things stand, currently holding picks 7, 15, 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 and 83. It's the strongest draft hand- points-wise- in the competition.
So where to now for the Tigers? Have they had their last of the glory days at Tigerland or was 2021 the anomaly to a continuing dynasty of success.
Richmond CEO Brendan Gale boldly said in 2010 that the club wanted to win three premierships by 2020. They have fulfilled those desires.
Is that where the story ends? Has Richmond achieved all they can and do they now cast an eye to the future? The likes of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt aren't getting any younger.
Martin is 30, Cotchin will turn 32 early next season and Riewoldt will be 33 by the start of the season.
Bachar Houli retired at the end of this season, could he be the first of many premiership heroes a bid Punt Road farewell? Could he be the first cab off the rank in a big wave of change in coming seasons?
There is a definite argument that could be made for the fact that the Tigers just weren't as good as the best teams in 2021 and haven't done anything in the off-season thus far to make up that ground.
But to be fair on the Tigers, they did have a lot of injury trouble throughout 2021 and no one wins flags with injury trouble.
Dustin Martin missed the rest of the season after a nasty injury in Round 18 that all-but ruled Richmond out of the finals race despite a win that night. Trent Cotchin battled niggles and form throughout the season and star forward Tom Lynch was another who didn't meet his usually lofty standards.
Add in injuries to the likes of Dion Prestia, Ivan Soldo, Noah Balta and Kane Lambert, and there is plenty of upside for the Tigers if their list can stay even slightly healthier than this season.
But with such a strong draft hand, the Tigers could be tempted to hit the draft hard and invest in youth. Especially having lost two key position players this off-season, there are clear holes that need filling.
But the recruitment of Tarrant doesn't imply a massive focus on youth just yet from Damien Hardwick and his team. Could Richmond use that plethora of picks and look to bring in a big fish of sorts.
They have been linked almost all season with Hawthorn ball magnet Tom Mitchell and the Hawks are reportedly keen to gain a stronger draft hand. Could Richmond send over three of their five picks inside the top 40 for Mitchell? Would picks 15, 26 and 38 be enough?
To put a line through the Tigers based on 2021 would be done at one's own peril. If you're willing to use past evidence as a guideline for what to expect from this champion Richmond team, you need to use their longer body of work.
When fully fit, they have been the cream of the crop and head and shoulders above the rest. While they'll almost certainly not be as far above their competitors as a previous time, there is no doubt they can go again. One more time.
The losses of Coleman-Jones and Chol, while unfortunate, look more like a future problem for Richmond to deal with as opposed to one that will impact their 2022 premiership aspirations.
https://www.zerohanger.com/have-the-tigers-had-their-last-dance-or-is-there-another-flag-tilt-awaiting-92303/
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I think our game plan needs changing first.
Who said our Pick 7 & Pick 15 can't be in best 22 and in a Premiership team?
Hit the draft!
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100% our game plan needs fine tuning bigtime.
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Yep. Im sure Dimma and co can see that.
I'll trust that they'll be working on it this summer.
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They can't seriously hold on to the netball stand rule, it is a pox on the game and makes me sick
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They can't seriously hold on to the netball stand rule, it is a pox on the game and makes me sick
Agree. :thumbsup
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They introduced it to aflw for 2022 right? So I guess it’s here to stay because it knocked us out if the 8 and that’s how AFL hq rolls
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They introduced it to aflw for 2022 right? So I guess it’s here to stay because it knocked us out if the 8 and that’s how AFL hq rolls
Yes it is the only rule changes for the AFLW season 2022
So it appears it is here to stay on the short term
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Blair Hartley's view:
Can the Tigers challenge again in 2022?
“We are pretty confident we can. Not a lot went right for us this year and we are just looking forward to getting the guys back. We are pretty excited about the development time we can get into our guys, even pre-Christmas and seeing them jump again.
Young players to watch:
"It's the emergence of some of our young guys, like Collier-Dawkins, Ross and Dow and Ralphsmith and Maurice Jr, Samson Ryan."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/683990/trade-talk-live-interest-in-eagle-evaporates-forgotten-sun-ready-to-rise)
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Premiership windows: Expert view on how close all clubs are to winning a flag
Ben Waterworth and Max Laughton
Fox Sports
October 14th, 2021
RICHMOND
Leigh Montagna says: “Absolutely they can win another flag. They had a short pre-season and came off that significant success and had some injuries, but I think they’ve got another premiership left in them in the next two years. While they’ve still got Prestia and Lambert and Cotchin and Dusty and Riewoldt, they’ve got a good enough young core, if they can stay hungry and healthy – and we know their system stacks up – I can see them contending again.”
David King says: “They’re a club that’s really settled. They had an off year, they knew exactly where they were all year. You felt the finish of the year had to come quickly for them and it did.”
Premiership window: 2022-2023
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-premiership-predictions-2022-how-close-all-afl-clubs-are-to-a-flag-fox-footy-trading-day/news-story/837f40e6e1ec369249e59d535fd3e253
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I dunno, it feels like next year is the last shot in the locker for this group. Hard to say though as this year was such a stuff up, short preseason and multiple injuries. I'd be more confident about 2023 if our older guys get through this preseason relatively unscathed.
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Inside story: How hungry Tigers aim to reclaim the throne
The Tigers aren’t going anywhere. Find out how the club plans to bounce back from a tough 2021 and regain its contender status.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-dustin-martin-and-a-string-of-young-stars-can-reignite-the-richmonds-premiership-dreams/news-story/72a755a0a8ef6ff7451df1946988789d
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Inside story: How hungry Tigers aim to reclaim the throne
The Tigers aren’t going anywhere. Find out how the club plans to bounce back from a tough 2021 and regain its contender status.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-dustin-martin-and-a-string-of-young-stars-can-reignite-the-richmonds-premiership-dreams/news-story/72a755a0a8ef6ff7451df1946988789d
Anyone got the full article thanks.
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Inside story: How hungry Tigers aim to reclaim the throne
The Tigers aren’t going anywhere. Find out how the club plans to bounce back from a tough 2021 and regain its contender status.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-dustin-martin-and-a-string-of-young-stars-can-reignite-the-richmonds-premiership-dreams/news-story/72a755a0a8ef6ff7451df1946988789d
Anyone got the full article thanks.
Here you go, georgie.
Damien Hardwick, Dustin Martin and a string of young stars can re-ignite the Richmond’s premiership dreams
The Tigers aren’t going anywhere. Find out how the club plans to bounce back from a tough 2021 and regain its contender status.
Glenn McFarlane
HeraldSun
23 October 2021
Richmond is confident it can rebound from a challenging 2021 and resume its position among the leading AFL teams next year.
While externally some have forecast the end of the Tigers’ magnificent run of three flags in five seasons, the club’s general manager of football performance Tim Livingstone is buoyed by a number of factors he hopes will see the team well placed for a kick-start into 2022.
The reasons for optimism are many and varied: the health of the playing list compared to the corresponding time in recent years; the hunger that seems as strong as ever; tweaks to the playing and coaching groups; the development of the young core of players; and the likely return of one of the club’s strongest assets – the Tiger Army – at the MCG next year.
“We are excited internally as a group that we get to do this pre-season and we have got 15 or so kids under 22 who are really going to benefit from it,” Livingstone said.
“The other half of the list are experienced and talented players. Guys like Dion Prestia and ‘Nank’ (Toby Nankervis) are now getting full preseasons. We’ve also got ‘Broady’ (Nathan Broad), Noah Balta and Dustin (Martin) coming back from injury, which is exciting for us.”
For the first time in five years, Richmond will attack a full pre-season, having finished their 2021 campaign five weeks before the grand final clubs Melbourne and Western Bulldogs.
“Don’t get me wrong, we would absolutely want the program of a short pre-season if we had played into the last week,” he said.
“But the way it has worked out, we have a chance to set ourselves up.
“We are fortunate the majority of our players will be right to go (for the start of pre-season in late November/early December) and that sets you in good stead for the season coming.”
Tom Lynch is another who will appreciate a full pre-season after injuries impacted him.
“Tom has just been a wonderful acquisition for this club. He has been terrific on and off the field. On the field he has copped a couple of injuries that were not of his own making.
“But he is a great athlete and an absolute competitor. He is another who will benefit from a solid pre-season.”
The Tigers have had a steady stream of players coming into Punt Rd during the city’s lockdown period to work on their fitness base.
Others followed programs from their home states, including Liam Baker, who has a makeshift gym on the farm in Lake Grace, in Western Australia, while Shai Bolton and Matt Parker have been training in Perth.
“Most of the clubs have been doing it, but we have had most of the Melbourne-based players in regularly,” he said. “They would have normally been following their off-season programs at home, but because of the lockdown, they have been allowed to come into the club.”
HUNGER GAMES
If anyone thought the Tigers had been sated by their recent success, think again.
As Livingstone points out, nearly half of the Richmond list is 23 or under, but he is equally excited by what the experienced players can still achieve.
“There is plenty of hunger,” he said. “Our boys have a growth mindset.”
“They are always in the game to improve. They have had a taste of success but they definitely want to go again. All the people within the club and our fans and members are excited about what’s coming.”
That hunger extends to coach Damien Hardwick, who will lead the Tigers for a 13th season.
“He (Hardwick) is more than excited about a new, fresh full pre-season,” Livingstone said.
“We’ve got some new players coming into the team and we’ve changed the coaching (group) slightly. We think we are in a great position to launch into the pre-season and prepare ourselves for 2022.”
Richmond has added former Carlton coach David Teague to its coaching panel, while retaining Adam Kingsley, who came close to the Collingwood and Carlton senior positions.
“We have a wonderful group of coaches,” Livingstone said. “We’ve got Adam and David who have been in the system for a decade.
“David brings a new voice and a new wave of thinking to the group and I know he is looking forward to starting with us soon.
“They are surrounded by some excellent young coaches in Andrew McQualter, Xavier Clarke and Sam Lonergan, so we have great support for Damien.”
GENERATION NEXT
One positive in a frustrating season of injuries was that the club’s young core had a greater opportunity to taste regular senior football.
That can only benefit the club heading into 2022.
“We have got a good bunch of young kids who we think are the future of Tigerland and we look forward to seeing them take the next step as well,” Livingstone said.
“Jack Ross, Will Martyn and Ben Miller finished the season off really well and all contributed in that (Round 23) Hawthorn game.
Then you have Thomson Dow and Riley Collier-Dawkins and Hugo Ralphsmith, to name a few.
“The opportunity for those boys to play at senior level cannot be undervalued. It is so important to get that experience and understanding about what is required of them.
“If you had a look at our half-back line at stages of last year with Rhyan Mansell, Sydney Stack and Daniel Rioli moving back then, that’s exciting when you have champions like Bachar Houli departing the team.”
The upside for young gun Bolton, who turns 23 in December, is significant following the best season of his career to date.
“Shai was outstanding this year, he has got so much talent and we are really pleased with the way he has grown as a footballer and as a person. He will continue to get better.”
TRADE TIME
Richmond lost big men Callum Coleman-Jones to North Melbourne and Mabior Chol to Gold Coast, but key defender Robbie Tarrant will bolster the club’s defensive posts.
Tarrant is one of the most underrated defenders in the game when he is fit and firing and will help cover the retirement of David Astbury.
“Robbie will give us some strength in the backline and support guys like ‘Grimesy’ (Dylan Grimes), ‘Broady’ (Nathan Broad), Noah Balta and Nick Vlastuin,” Livingstone said.
The Tigers believe they have enough big men to cover the loss of Coleman-Jones and Chol, to work alongside experienced ruckman Nankervis.
“People forget Ivan Soldo is like a new draft pick for us next year, back from a year off with his knee injury,” Livingstone said.
“Then we have a couple of young guys in Samson Ryan and Mate Colina, who still has some development ahead of him as a Category B player.”
DRAFT HAUL
Four clubs have won three or more flags this century, but Richmond has been the only one to amass five selections in the top 30 of a draft in the year following their success.
A month out from the national draft, Richmond general manager of football talent Blair Hartley and recruiting manager Matthew Clarke have picks 7, 15, 26, 27, 28 and 83 at their disposal.
The Tigers are open to trading further into the pointy end of the draft, potentially packaging two of their current picks to move up the top ten order.
“We are really happy with our draft hand … to have five picks inside the top 30 and our first pick inside the top 10 since Nick Vlastuin (pick 9 in 2012) is exciting,” Livingstone said.
“We will be able to add some really good talent into the group. Blair and Matty have done a brilliant job and whether we use some of (those picks) to move up the draft, or whether we look to next year, it gives us a good bargaining hand.”
The ability of Clarke and Hartley to locate talent from different sources and backgrounds has played a significant role in the club’s success.
NEW SKIPPER
Trent Cotchin’s decision to hand over the captaincy and help foster the next wave of leaders at the club provides an opportunity.
But the process of selecting a new skipper isn’t a new thing.
Richmond has been doing it on an annual basis across the past few seasons in order to encourage new leaders to step forwards, even if everyone knew Cotchin would retain it.
“Even though it was a fait accompli (with Cotchin), we still went through the process,” Livingstone said.
“(Leadership consultant) Shane McCurry does a great job with it and we get all of the players’ involvement and our key staff as well.
“Normally we will determine (the captaincy) around the time of the pre-season games commencing or in the midst of those games. So around late February or early March is probably where we will come to our answer.”
He was reluctant to nominate individuals among the main contenders, saying the club felt it had a number of players capable of taking on the role.
“We have a good spread (of leaders), it is just about going through the process that we normally do and the right person will come to the fore.”
Among those likely to come under consideration are Dylan Grimes, Nick Vlastuin, Jack Graham and Martin (if he is keen to do it).
Cotchin, 31, will play a role in assisting the new captain during the transition period.
“Trent is an outstanding person and to have him around to support a new captain is a real advantage. It gives him the chance to really focus on his footy at this point of his career.”
HOW IS DUSTY TRACKING?
Richmond is confident Martin will be back in full running in early December with the club saying he is “as hungry as ever” to return to his best form following a serious kidney injury.
While externally some wondered if the injury might have had a long-term impact on his dominance – coupled with his dramatic weight loss following delicate surgery to repair a lacerated kidney – the 30-year-old triple Norm Smith Medallist can’t wait to get back into serious training.
Martin plans to play well into his 30s, well beyond the end of his current deal which expires following the 2024 season.
He has been one of the Tigers in at Punt Road across the past month, ensuring he is covering all bases as he prepares to launch his 2022 return to footy.
“Dustin is a really resilient player, so it was almost like it (the injury) was the only way you could bring him down,” Livingstone said.
“He is in excellent spirits. He is recovering brilliantly. He is just a super professional so he did what he thought was best to recover from this unique injury.
“He has started his cross training and he will be running fully in December.”
Martin suffered a lacerated kidney in a freak collision with Brisbane’s Mitch Robinson at Metricon Stadium in Round 18.
He was ruled out for the rest of the season, spent nine days in hospital and shed more than 10 kilos as he worked to overcome the injury.
The star midfielder/forward, who has been so durable since his 2010 debut, missed the connection with the playing group during his lengthy rehabilitation.
“He is absolutely as hungry as ever,” Livingstone said. “He is looking beyond the next couple of years, he wants to play for a long time and he is the sort of the guy who could do it.
“His body is so durable. He is the ultimate professional and he prepares himself accordingly. He loves being around the club and he loves his teammates and he can’t wait for 2022.
“He absolutely loves the game. Selfishly, I hope he plays for quite a few more years because people love watching guys like Dustin play.”
Martin will progressively build up some of the strength he lost, an asset that has made him one of the most powerful and dominant players across the past decade.
The club is confident he will have a strong pre-season with an eye to making his AFL return in the Round 1 clash against a new look Carlton before a huge crowd at the MCG in March.
“Progressively, he will put that strength back on. All the indicators are that he will be training in December, our fans should feel assured of that,” Livingstone said of Martin.
YELLOW AND BACK
It was one of Richmond’s not-so-secret weapons in the pre-Covid days of its premiership dynasty and it’s ready to roar back into action again.
Much of the Tiger Army — the contingent that calls the MCG home — has largely been silenced through much of the pandemic, even if the back-to-back 100,000-plus membership tallies in 2020 and 2021 has kept the club coffers strong at a critical point.
Their expected return in a likely Round 1 clash with Carlton in March and through a bumper fan-friendly 2022 fixture will almost certainly give the Tigers a psychological bounce.
“We can’t wait to be back at the ’G and play in front of our Tiger Army,” Livingstone said.
“We have had the opportunity to do that around Australia where we had great support. But I know the players can’t wait to get back to the ’G and play in front of a crowd.
“We were really proud and grateful for the loyalty of the Tiger Army, with over 100,000 members again this season, despite the fact that for the best part of a year, they couldn’t go to the games. All of our players and staff are really looking forward to seeing our fans back.”
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Nice fluff piece in unkle ruperts rag today.
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Double page spread in the offseason. Tiges sell papers :yep.
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Biggest question for 2022: RICHMOND
Its depth
As is the case with all successful sides, Richmond has lost a stack of its depth players in recent years, most recently Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman-Jones. The Chol and Coleman-Jones departures hurt even more so given the club is in a transitional phase and they both would’ve firmly been in the club’s future plans. And all of the Tigers’ losses has suddenly left them with a much thinner list. While Richmond was hit harder than most on the injury last year, it showed that its next wave of players weren’t ready to carry the mantle, leaving question marks over if the club could endure a similar situation in 2022.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-every-clubs-biggest-issue-2022-preview-analysis-strengths-and-weaknesses-list-review/news-story/a6ba0f9324db6f26d79123fa42694f73
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THE FLAG CONTENDERS
Richmond had an off year in 2021 highlighted by a wretched injury run, but can’t be discounted in 2022. The Tigers should benefit significantly from a longer pre-season, plus the acquisition of key defender Robbie Tarrant to replace the retired David Astbury. Richmond fans know what they’re going to get from their A-grade veterans, but they’ll be hoping Jack Graham, Shai Bolton and Noah Balta can elevate their games and that some of their relatively unexposed talent, like Jack Ross, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thomson Dow and Hugo Ralphsmith, can break into the best 22. One team from the bottom-10 generally leapfrogs into the top four the next season – and the Tigers would be the favourite to do that in 2022.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-predictions-2022-finals-chances-for-every-club-next-season-improve-or-decline-draft-picks-order/news-story/aa42fa8f41d0eed64bc055bb2bb92667
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Very early predictions for 2022
Look for the dad’s army at Richmond to give the premiership one last shake (refer Hawthorn 1991) before the fantastic team of the past five years really does become too old and too slow.
- Ash Browne
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The Tiger train to rumble back into the top four
Richmond was chasing a three-peat in 2021 and while the team huffed and puffed, in the end it didn’t quite go to plan.
Things were derailed by a mix of injury, exhaustion and just plain average form as they fell away in the second half of the season.
It is naturally the case that a dynasty team will drop off at some point and that could be the case for the Tigers.
However, the list is still in fairly good nick and if the Tigers can avoid the bulk injuries they suffered last season, then they can give things a shake in 2022.
It does depend on a few ‘ifs’ though.
If Dustin Martin can overcome his kidney injury. If Dion Prestia can stay on the park.
If Tom Lynch can fire. If Shane Edwards can gain continuity. If Ivan Soldo can ease the load on Toby Nankervis.
If Nick Vlastuin is not restricted again. If Nathan Broad and Noah Balta can return to their best. If Robbie Tarrant can hold down David Astbury’s key defensive post.
If the likes of Sydney Stack, Riley Collier-Dawkins and Rhyan Mansell can take the next step.
And perhaps even if Trent Cotchin can break the shackles of captaincy.
There’s a bit that needs to go right, but if they are afforded some luck on the injury front, then the Tigers can certainly challenge again while the window remains ajar.
If the above happens, then all aboard the Tiger train.
- Andrew Slevison
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/26/10-way-too-early-predictions-for-the-2022-afl-season/
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Will the Tigers return to finals?
afl.com.au
2 December 2021
Riley Beveridge and Sarah Black on today's AFL website podcast:
LISTEN HERE (from 5 min mark): https://www.afl.com.au/news/690110/listen-why-roos-can-bounce-will-tigers-return-to-finals-
* Finals have to be on the agenda for Richmond next year. Struggled with injuries in the second half of this year. A fully fit Balta and Broad returning will stabilised that backline a lot more with Tarrant will take over Astbury's role.
* There's a bit of a logjam now developing with Richmond's younger players. Talking about Ross, Dow, Martyn. Whether these new 5 draftees will jump them, Sarah Black wasn't sure.
* Love to see Gibcus play next year but not sure if there will be a hole there for him. We saw last year that the Tigers didn't have a lot of key defenders as back-up in their reserves. Garthwaite has been delisted while Miller has only played one game.
* Not as concerned about their ruck as compared to their key forward stocks. The Tigers have been pumping up Colina no end and are expecting him to be a really good prospect although he still has a lot to learn. The key forward stocks are the one Richmond's recruiters will look at in the upcoming years. Losing both Coleman-Jones and Chol out of their forward line will really hurt them for a few years.
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Chol and CCJ really haven’t done anything.
I reckon we’ve already seen the best of Chol and I’m sure Richmond would’ve traded Soldo had they thought CCJ was a better option.
So no, I don’t see this being something we will rue.
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Rise, hold or fall: The verdict on every AFL club’s list and its prospects for 2022
David Zita and Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
December 15th, 2021
Foxfooty.com.au analyses where every club’s list is at and assesses whether they’ll hold, rise or fall in 2022.
RICHMOND
Average age: 25.55 (3rd)
Average games played: 80.6 (3rd)
Richmond performed below expectations in 2021 — but you’d be a fool to discount the Tigers jumping back into contention in 2022. The Tigers should benefit significantly from a longer pre-season, while the acquisition of key defender Robbie Tarrant to replace the retired David Astbury, as well as a strong draft crop that included Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown and Tyler Sonsie, will boost the list. Their key forward depth might be a little exposed following the departures of Callum Coleman-Jones (North Melbourne) and Mabior Chol (Gold Coast), but there have been suggestions top draftee Gibcus could be used as a forward. Richmond fans will know what they’re going to get from A-grade veterans like Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch. So if Jack Graham, Shai Bolton and Noah Balta can elevate their games while some of the club’s relatively unexposed talent, like Jack Ross, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thomson Dow and Hugo Ralphsmith, can break into the best 22, the Tigers should, again, be an ominous force. One team from the bottom-10 generally leapfrogs into the top four the next season – and the Tigers would be the favourite to do that in 2022.
Rise, hold or fall? Rise
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Adelaide - Hold
Brisbane - Rise
Carlton - Rise
Collingwood - Hold
Essendon - Hold
Fremantle - Hold
Geelong - Fall
Gold Coast - Hold
GWS - Hold
Hawthorn - Fall
Melbourne - Hold
North Melb. - Hold
Port Adel. - Fall
St Kilda - Fall
Sydney - Hold
West Coast - Fall
W.Bulldogs - Hold
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-predictions-2022-rise-hold-or-fall-predicted-ladder-list-rankings-verdict-on-every-club/news-story/4869e6c19782fd510039854056f9e28b
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Fearless AFL predictions for 2022
David Zita, Max Laughton and Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
December 22nd, 2021
As the year draws to a close, it’s time to look ahead to the next one.
So, without the benefit of hindsight, we’ve taken a look at what footy in 2022 might hold.
Here are our 22 fearless predictions for 2022.
14) Richmond roars into the top four
A lot went wrong for the Tigers in 2021, but there’s at least one more big charge for Damien Hardwick’s side before they potentially fall back to the pack and regather themselves for their next window. Whether it be a lack of hunger or just the accumulation of so many short pre-seasons compared to much of the competition, Richmond looked to hit a wall in 2021, which wasn’t helped by a flurry of injuries to key players including superstar Dustin Martin. Structurally, the return of Ivan Soldo from injury at some point next year will be a big boost, while Sydney Stack showed a lot of promise in his late-season return. Missing the finals marked a horror finish for Richmond, but it could prove the best thing for the side given the amount of preparation time the players have enjoyed. By virtue of their 12th placed finish, the Tigers also get a much more appealing fixture than they’ve had in recent years, with double-ups against Carlton, Essendon, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide and West Coast. We move on very quickly in footy, but Richmond have all the capabilities to thwart Melbourne’s bid to become the next dynasty side.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2022-tips-22-fearless-predictions-by-fox-footy-for-2022-season-premiers-who-will-make-finals-awards-crystal-ball/news-story/334adddb32b3e8801273e6b9bdc5fe13
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SEN host Tim Gossage has named the clubs who he thinks will make the top eight in the 2022 AFL season.
Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Richmond, Fremantle, Carlton and Essendon are Gossage’s guaranteed finalists for the upcoming campaign.
The AFL Nation commentator thinks the Demons will win back-to-back premierships this year and has tipped the Dockers to jump into the top eight.
“I’ve been trying to come up with my eight. It’s a bit early, it’s only January,” Gossage told SEN Mornings.
“This is in no particular order, although I do think Melbourne is unbeatable, and they’ll win the flag.
“Guaranteed, take it to the bank – they (Fremantle) are making the eight.”
Below are the clubs Gossage thinks will make the finals in 2022, in no particular order:
1. Melbourne
2. Western Bulldogs
3. Brisbane
4. Richmond
5. Fremantle
6. Carlton
7. Essendon
8. Port Adelaide
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/01/19/gossages-top-8-and-guaranteed-finalists-for-the-2022-afl-season/
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The 10 AFL headlines you will read in 2022
Despite it still being summer, here are the stories that will have chins wagging over winter.
Ed Carmine
zerohanger.com
January 19, 2022
6. Tigers claw back into eight
To say that Richmond's defence of their 2020 premiership didn't go to plan is an understatement of Jim Lovell proportions.
Although the Tigers' 2021 rough ride home last season saw them fail to play finals for the first time since 2016, the factors behind the Punt Roader's slide were apparent for all to see.
With the likes of Martin, Cotchin, Edwards, Lambert, Nankervis, Broad, Vlastuin, Prestia, Lynch and Balta all unable to complete full campaigns, cynics will see 2021 as an act of foreshadowing.
But with each an every member of this hampered class set to return in 2022, as well as the fact that a vast majority of Damien Hardwick's cubs all saw senior action in their absence, a balanced, hungry and refreshed Richmond side is set to attack this season.
While fans of other creeds delighted in the fact that the Tigers' hiccup saw them unable to win a fourth cup in five years, any that hold that belief that their era is over are only deluding themselves.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-10-afl-headlines-you-will-read-in-2022-96692/5/
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Looking at Richmond, Cornes wonders whether they have another run in them and how Damien Hardwick will handle another season under pressure.
“Does this team have one last serious crack in them? Injuries, ageing stars, salary cap pressure, the opposition understanding the game style that they play, and how to shut it down,” he said.
“Key emerging players that have left in the off-season, which is the price you pay for success.
“The Tigers are fascinating to me. Can they do it? Is Hardwick going to be grumpy if they don’t?”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/02/03/kane-cornes-storylines-and-question-marks-for-seven-afl-teams/
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Can Richmond bounce back in 2022?
Ben Lawless
zerohanger.com
4 February 2022
While it feels like a lifetime ago, it was just over twelve months since the Tigers won their third premiership in four years. While dynasties such as Hawthorn's were never able to bounce back after they began to slide, this Richmond team appears different.
Comparing their current roster to their 2020 premiership list, only a few players are no longer on at Punt Road. From the 22 players that were named on grand final day, only Bachar Houli and David Astbury have departed.
While some players such as Cotchin and Riewoldt are starting to near the end, Jayden Short, Noah Balta, Jack Graham, Liam Baker and Shai Bolton are just a few of the players who have improved since 2020.
While there were a few reasons why the Tigers fell down the ladder, the major reason was injuries.
After battling through ailments for the past few seasons, the totality hit them hard in last year's campaign. Balta, Cotchin, Edwards, Lambert, Martin, McIntosh, Prestia, Stack and Vlastuin all missed at least five games last season. Given a better run of health, that should drastically improve the club's record in the upcoming season.
With a fully healthy list, the Tigers still have the talent and game plan to make another serious push for the flag. They are the only team who missed the finals last season that could make a genuine case for a top-four finish.
This season is looking like one of the tightest finals races in recent memory, but given the dominance of the club over the past five seasons, it is impossible to count the Tigers from playing deep into September.
Is the next generation ready to make the leap?
The Tigers still have a competitive list similar to their 2022 premiership team. Several of their key players, however, are hitting the tail end of their careers.
Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Dylan Grimes, Kane Lambert and Robbie Tarrant are all over 30 years of age heading into the upcoming season. Dion Prestia and Tom Lynch are other important pieces that are 29 years old.
While they are all capable of playing winning football, the Tigers will be looking towards the next chapter as those players continue to age.
Often sustained club success can make it difficult to rebuild and retool the list in the long term. This is due to clubs trading for win-now players, or not receiving high-level draft picks. Eventually, most teams hit a point where they need to invest in more youth.
Richmond has begun that thinking as evident by their 2021 draft. They were able to stockpile some assets allowing them to take five selections in the top 30. That included Josh Gibcus (#9), Tom Brown (#17), Tyler Sonsie (#28), Sam Banks (#29) and Judson Clarke (#30). While all these draftees have the potential to be valuable contributors in the future, most are unlikely to have a huge impact in the next few seasons.
Instead, they need a handful of talented players who are able to contribute now, while still able to play high-level football throughout the remainder of the decade. That is where the following few players come in.
Liam Baker, Jack Graham, Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Riley Collier-Dawkins and Sydney Stack are all going to be 22 to 24 in the early stages of 2022. They have all been developing in the Tigers system and have had to earn every game they have played.
Due to the challenges of 2021, it allowed more of their younger players to show their potential and what they could bring to the club moving forward. Last season became a career season for all these players who all benefited from increased opportunities.
Throughout 2021, Baker, Graham, Bolton and Balta all got the opportunity to be the number one option for the Tigers. The experience and confidence brought on by those opportunities will help their finals push as everyone gets healthy.
Their stats for 2021 are as followed:
Baker: 20.3 disposals, 2.8 tackles, 3.0 inside 50s, 1.4 clearances
Graham: 19.0 disposals, 5.6 tackles, 3.9 inside 50s, 1.8 clearances, 0.5 goals
Bolton: 19.7 disposals, 2.8 tackles, 4.8 inside 50s, 3.6 clearances, 1.2 marks inside 50, 1.2 goals
Balta: 13.1 disposals, 1.3 tackles, 3.1 rebound 50s, 1.4 marks inside 50
Collier-Dawkins: 14.7 disposals, 3.6 tackles, 2.3 inside 50s, 3.3 clearances
Stack: 16.7 disposals, 2.4 tackles, 2.6 rebound 50s, 1.9 inside 50s
While last season would give the Tigers confidence about their future, there are still a few questions that are left unanswered.
One area of concern for Richmond is whether their young players are able to produce at a high level while contributing to winning football. Balta and Collier-Dawkins both won 50% of their matches last season. The others all had more losses than victories.
There has been excellent football played by these players during Richmond's premiership runs. However, they are yet to prove that they can be one of the team's best few players, on a premiership level team.
The other area of concern is whether they all can play consistent football and remain healthy. While Baker, Graham and Bolton only missed two games between them, it was a different story for the other three. Balta, Collier-Dawkins and Stack only managed 30 games. Form, opportunities and health were all factors in missing over half the season.
The Tigers will need all these players to continue to develop and improve over the next couple of seasons. Getting to play in meaningful matches and finals will be crucial in their development and will help transition into the new era of Richmond football.
While the Tigers don't need them all to be stars in 2022, staying competitive past the next few seasons likely fall into the hands of the young guns.
https://www.zerohanger.com/captain-less-and-winless-after-round-one-five-burning-questions-richmond-tigers-97294/
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Injury-prone Lynch believes stars will align for resurgent tigers
So how does Richmond reignite its flag charge and topple Melbourne when some pundits might believe one superpower is falling and another is only just emerging?
“We are a bit younger than people perceive us on the outside. We have still got a good list together and those five draftees will come in. We have guys like Hugo Ralphsmith and Tom Dow. These guys are still young and will take big strides this year.
“You always want to play finals and to have a taste of what it’s like, you want to get back there so I think the boys are pretty excited and determined to get back there.”
No.9 draft pick Josh Gibcus has already made waves as a marking half back flank with great aerial ability and a huge desire to learn.
“He came in and stayed at Grimesy’s (Dylan Grimes) farm for a couple of weeks and Grimesy had him working on the farm and he said, bugger this, I am going to get out and go to a host family,” he laughs.
“He had got a beautiful leap, he jumps well, so he will be that third tall defender.”
No. 17 pick Tom Brown is another pacy half back who darts through traffic and is making an early impression.
Midfielder Tyler Sonsie (pick 28), Rebounding defender Sam Banks (29) and mid-forward Judson Clarke (pick 30) round out the early haul.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-richmond-news-stay-uptodate-with-the-tigers-preseason/news-story/9d4c1b5d978737995e53d57218f32572
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OVER OR UNDER - ASSESSING EACH AFL TEAM'S SEASON WIN LINES FOR 2022
By Nic Negrepontis and Andrew Slevison
SEN
18 Feb 2022
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Season Win Line: 13.5
After some flag success, the Tigers fell away in 2021, winning only nine games and drawing one.
So the line they’ve been set for 2022 does present some intrigue. In past years, 13.5 would be have been routine but this is a slightly different Richmond.
With some luck on the injury front, they’ll take care of that line, but if playing the percentages the under looks safer.
Verdict: Under
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Season win line:
Melbourne 16.5
W.Bulldogs 15.5
Brisbane 14.5
Port Adel. 14.5
Richmond 13.5
Geelong 13.5
Sydney 13.5
Essendon 11.5
GWS 11.5
West Coast 11.5
St Kilda 10.5
Carlton 9.5
Fremantle 9.5
Adelaide 7.5
Collingwood 7.5
Hawthorn 7.5
North Melb. 6.5
Gold Coast 5.5
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/02/18/over-or-under-assessing-each-afl-teams-season-win-lines-for-2022/
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From the HeraldSun's Supercoach facebook page:
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https://m.facebook.com/supercoach/photos/a.10151028183426440/10158435976011440/?type=3&m_entstream_source=timeline
It's been 14 years since we last finished ninth ::).
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TIGERS TIPPED TO BE “RIGHT ON THE EDGE” OF PLAYING FINALS IN 2022
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
23 Feb 2022
Adam Cooney is tipping Richmond to be “right on the edge” of playing finals in 2022.
The Tigers dropped off last year, finishing 12th with just nine wins and a draw, following a successful period of three premierships in four seasons.
Many are predicting Damien Hardwick’s side to fall away even further this year, given a group of their stars are into their 30s, while some believe they can recover quickly and contend again.
Richmond has made some key off-season moves, appointing co-captains Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis to replace Trent Cotchin who stepped down, while bringing in Robbie Tarrant from North Melbourne.
Brownlow Medallist Cooney acknowledges it was a tough season for the Tigers in 2021, while raising a few questions they must answer if they are to recoil.
“It’s fair to say that they hit the wall and they hit it hard,” he said on SEN SA Breakfast.
“The bounce back, the fight back didn’t happen. They had a lot of injuries, none bigger than Dustin Martin with five or six weeks left in the season, and they really struggled from there.
“It catches up with everyone. Being on top for that long is really hard to sustain.
“The question marks over the Tigers and can they get back into the top eight or the top four is how fit will Dustin Martin be? If he’s back to 100 per cent then he instantly makes them a better side.
“How will Noah Balta and Robbie Tarrant gel with the retirement of David Astbury?
“They’ve also lost a runner in Bachar Houli who used the ball so well and set them up.”
The former Bulldogs and Bombers midfielder assessed what could be ahead for the Tigers and what they need to do in order to improve this season.
He believes any upturn will come from a group of younger players who simply must step up and the return of ruckman Ivan Soldo who missed last year with a knee injury.
“The improvement from Richmond is going to have to come from Shai Bolton, Sydney Stack, Ivan Soldo coming back, Riley Collier-Dawkins, who was one of their shining lights in terms of the younger players. He needs two take his game to another level. Daniel Rioli needs to be the Bachar Houli replacement of half-back,” he added.
“If those players go to that next level and then the old boys, do they have enough left in the tank for one last crack at it before they retire?
“It’s probably going to be Trent Cotchin’s last year, Jack Riewoldt is still playing well, Shane Edwards is over 30, Kane Lambert is over 30, Martin is over 30 now, so it’s probably their last crack with this group.
“Can they go to the well one more time?
“If those players improve and the old boys get themselves up for one last go at it, then you can’t write them off.
“But it’s going to be really tough for Richmond to win a premiership again in 2022.
“They’ll have a better season than in 2021 because they’ve had some time off, some time to refresh and they’ll get players back.
“Can they get to the promised land again? I’m going to say no.”
How many wins for Richmond in 2022?
“11 wins for Richmond this year,” Cooney predicted.
“I don’t know if they’ll make the eight or not, I don’t know if 11 wins will get you there.
“I’ll say 11/12 wins, right on the edge of making finals.”
Co-host Andrew Hayes also made his prediction on the 2017, 2019 and 2020 premiers.
“I’ve got them for 10 wins. It purely depends on Dustin Martin and Tom Lynch,” he said.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/02/23/tigers-tipped-to-be-right-on-the-edge-of-playing-finals-in-2022/
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Fox Footy's season preview of us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYaUFQGT6EQ
Robbo thinks we're too old and gone and has us finishing 6th-7th.
King and Montagna have us bouncing back and making the top 4.
King called our 2021 "Glitchmond". Just too many injuries.
Robbo also reckons he's heard Dimma and the rest of our coaching staff are more than tweaking our gameplan due to the stand rule.
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Richo doesn't think we can win the flag this year.
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RICHMOND GREAT LISTS THE TEAMS WHO CAN AND CAN’T WIN THE FLAG IN 2022
SEN
3 March 2022
Richmond great and Sportsday regular Matthew Richardson believes only five clubs can win the premiership in 2022.
According to Richardson, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Brisbane, Sydney and the Western Bulldogs can win the flag this year.
The three-time All-Australian has ruled former club Richmond, perennial contenders Geelong and GWS out of the premiership race.
Richardson however has tipped the Tigers to make the eight after missing the finals for the first time since 2016 last year.
The teams who Richardson thinks can win the flag this year:
Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Brisbane, Western Bulldogs, Sydney.
The teams who Richardson thinks can’t win the flag this year:
North Melbourne, Collingwood, Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Carlton, Richmond, Fremantle, St Kilda, West Coast, Essendon, GWS, Geelong.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/02/richmond-great-lists-the-teams-who-can-and-cant-win-the-flag-in-2022/
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AFL predictions 2022: We analyse each club’s win/loss tally
Will the Tigers bounce back? Our experts give their over/under predictions.
Glenn McFarlane, Jay Clark and Scott Gullan
HeraldSun
March 3, 2022
RICHMOND
SCOTT GULLAN’S TIP: Over 13.5 wins ($1.95)
Don’t think for a minute last year’s debacle was a sign of the empire crumbling. Word out of Punt Rd is that a number of the stars - ie Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia, Toby Nankervis - are refreshed and reinvigorated while coach Damien Hardwick sounds like a man on a mission.
Wins
Melbourne Under 16.5
W.Bulldogs Over 15.5
Brisbane Over 14.5
Port Adelaide Over 14.5
Geelong Over 13.5
Richmond Over 13.5
Sydney Over 13.5
Essendon Over 11.5
GWS Under 11.5
St Kilda Under 10.5
West Coast Under 10.5
Carlton Over 9.5
Fremantle Over 9.5
Collingwood Over 7.5
Adelaide Under 7.5
Hawthorn Under 7.5
North Melb. Over 6.5
Gold Coast Over 5.5
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-predictions-2022-we-analyse-each-clubs-winloss-tally/news-story/f5f0166695c6079743be628090ac7a71
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This is going to be a very tough, even year. With expected improvement from Carlton, Essendon, Freo & Gold Coast, there won't be many "easy" games. We are due for a better run with injuries, but then again the usual suspects are a year older. It will come down to keeping good players on the park, improvement from young players that have been in the system a couple of years, and winning the close games. I'm tipping we finish 5-8th, and anything can happen from there.
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I expect to see us in the middle 6 and not contending for the flag.
A couple of good wins over top teams and a lot of losses to up and coming younger teams.
Then cliff. Hopefully briefly...
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All depends if our next generation breake out RCD Stack ,Miller ,Hugo etc they need to step up.
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All depends if our next generation breake out RCD Stack ,Miller ,Hugo etc they need to step up.
Agreed.
Problem is I don't think I've seen anything to suggest it will happen. Stack is always chasing form and fitness these days. Club might have decided RCD is a role player not a gun. Miller done zilch. Hugo, role player also.
Graham, Bolton, Baker and Balta are our only genuinely good young players IMO.
I think Mansell showed some promise.
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All depends if our next generation breake out RCD Stack ,Miller ,Hugo etc they need to step up.
Agreed.
Problem is I don't think I've seen anything to suggest it will happen. Stack is always chasing form and fitness these days. Club might have decided RCD is a role player not a gun. Miller done zilch. Hugo, role player also.
Graham, Bolton, Baker and Balta are our only genuinely good young players IMO.
I think Mansell showed some promise.
Did you see anything in 2016 to suggest that we would win 3 of the next 4 flags??
Said it back then and saying it again that the development is like solving a rubik cube. It looks like a mess and unsolvable then it all falls into place.
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I expect to see us in the middle 6 and not contending for the flag.
A couple of good wins over top teams and a lot of losses to up and coming younger teams.
Then cliff. Hopefully briefly...
Im sorta in this camp. Unlike a lot of tiger supporters i think we are one of the sides that can least afford injuries that and the fact the better players are all a year older.
Who have we bought in to immediately improve us??.
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All depends if our next generation breake out RCD Stack ,Miller ,Hugo etc they need to step up.
Agreed.
Problem is I don't think I've seen anything to suggest it will happen. Stack is always chasing form and fitness these days. Club might have decided RCD is a role player not a gun. Miller done zilch. Hugo, role player also.
Graham, Bolton, Baker and Balta are our only genuinely good young players IMO.
I think Mansell showed some promise.
Did you see anything in 2016 to suggest that we would win 3 of the next 4 flags??
Said it back then and saying it again that the development is like solving a rubik cube. It looks like a mess and unsolvable then it all falls into place.
No, however the acquisition of Prestia, Caddy and Nankervis was huge.
Also huge development from key roles (coach and captain).
If we already have established leadership and coaching panel, haven't traded any seasoned players in (bar Tarrant at 32) and have only hit the draft then I think it's a different scenario to 2016. The kids we have haven't shown much bar those ones I mentioned and the new 5 won't do much in their debut years as per usual.
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I expect to see us in the middle 6 and not contending for the flag.
A couple of good wins over top teams and a lot of losses to up and coming younger teams.
Then cliff. Hopefully briefly...
Im sorta in this camp. Unlike a lot of tiger supporters i think we are one of the sides that can least afford injuries that and the fact the better players are all a year older.
Who have we bought in to immediately improve us??.
Tarrant. That's pretty much it. He's an upgrade on Astbury but is also 32, however good tutelage and physical protection for the likes of Gibcus and Miller.
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AFL Season Preview 2022: Tigers top-four bound once again?
https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-season-preview-2022-richmond-tigers/
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Callum Twomey also predicting us to challenge for a top 4 spot.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/715262/richmond-s-season-preview-why-a-return-to-top-four-looms-young-cub-to-explode
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AFL Oracle: Which team stuck in footy’s ‘no man’s land’ can crack the top eight in 2022?
Tim Miller
theRoar.com.au
9 March 2022
Richmond
“This is the way the world ends; not with a bang, but a whimper.” T.S. Eliot might as well have written those words about Richmond in 2021, the three-time premiers’ reign coming to a sudden, crushing end midway through the season.
After treading water through much of the early rounds, most of us thought the real Tigers, much like the real Slim Shady, would soon stand up. But short of the occasional one-off reminder of their former glory – wins over the Western Bulldogs, West Coast and Brisbane all had hallmarks of the Tigers of old – their chances of a premiership threepeat never got off the launching pad.
Injuries wreaked havoc – Dustin Martin’s brutal kidney injury ruled him out for the final five weeks, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Nick Vlastuin and Kane Lambert all played roughly half the season, and knee soreness left Tom Lynch a shadow of his best despite more often than not fronting up to play.
The Tigers’ famous hunger, the manic intensity that willed them to three flags in four years, also disappeared. After ranking fourth, third and third for tackles in their premiership years of 2017, 2019 and 2020, that figure dropped all the way down to 13th in 2021. Without that means of turning the ball over, a hallmark to the so-called ‘Richmond way’, their disposals and inside-50 counts both fell to mid-table. The result? A seismic fall from grace.
Injuries are already beginning to bite again to start this season – new co-captain Dylan Grimes has undergone thumb surgery and is in grave doubt for Round 1, while a debilitating hip issue is set to cruel Lambert again. Jack Graham and Lynch are two others who are no certainties to play the early rounds.
The Tigers, though, might prefer that to last year, when the bulk of their blows came throughout the season. In 2019, they endured a nightmarish run of injuries in the early rounds – Alex Rance did a knee in Round 1 and Jack Riewoldt barely played before the bye, to name but a few – only to get virtually all of them back and firing for the second half of the season.
If the Tigers can so much as keep their heads above water in the early rounds, they will be primed to cash in on a favourable draw that sees them leave Melbourne just three times after April. Equally, the so-dubbed ‘three-headed monster’ of Riewoldt, Lynch, and defender-turned-forward Noah Balta in attack will trouble many a quality defence this year, with Balta’s mobility and one-on-one strength a lethal combination.
Most pundits expect the Tigers to return to finals in 2022, and I’m firmly in that boat. But with an ageing list, concerns over some injury-prone key pillars and the inescapable fact that Melbourne have dethroned them as the competition’s premier side, let’s not go too far and expect a return to premiership glory just yet.
Prediction: 7th
https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/03/09/afl-oracle-which-team-stuck-in-footys-no-mans-land-can-crack-the-top-eight-in-2022/
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13 AFL captains (excluding Nank/Grimes) have us making the finals and two have us in the Granny.
Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?
17 – Brisbane, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs,
16 – Port Adelaide
13 – Richmond, Geelong
11 – Sydney
9 – GWS Giants
5 – Essendon, Carlton
2 – Fremantle
1 – St Kilda
Which other club is most likely to reach the Grand Final?
6 – Melbourne
5 – Brisbane
3 – Western Bulldogs
2 – Richmond
2 – Port Adelaide
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716412/grand-finalists-brownlow-top-eight-afl-captains-make-their-2022-predictions
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Gerard Whateley on AFL 360 states he is not writing off the Tigers for the premiership in 2022, the era is not done yet!
Mark Robinson disagrees.
WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAzNGqbeiU4&t=1s
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How Richmond Bounce Back in 2022
David King and Leigh Montagna discussing Richmond on AFL360:
WATCH HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKct3IN3p_U
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These 5 rules predict who’ll crash out of the AFL top eight. There’s one big surprise
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
March 10th, 2022
So which teams jump in? That’s a much tougher question, but Richmond is the most popular pick among experts given how much went against them in 2021 (the late start due to 2020’s late finish, injuries, exhaustion on and off the field), and we know they’re good enough to make the top four.
Pointsbet’s top eight odds have just one change, Richmond replacing Essendon - we know there’ll be more than one, based on history.
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Full article here: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-season-preview-predicted-ladder-stats-analysis-rules-for-picking-top-eight-historic-results-who-misses-finals/news-story/a783b15321ac83793b7b2798ec212cd2
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FWIW, Dwayne Russell on SEN is tipping us to finish 3rd as well.
Dwayne Russell’s top eight for 2022 below:
Melbourne
Brisbane
Richmond
Port Adelaide
Sydney
Western Bulldogs
Geelong
Essendon
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/11/dwayne-russells-top-8-for-the-2022-afl-season/
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Barrett in his Sliding Doors column:
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IF ...
you go back to 1991 ...
THEN ...
you'll recall the Hawks won a flag they weren't really expected to win, adding a fifth title to an already-great premiership winning era. No reason the Tigers can't add a fourth to their already great streak.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/717151/if-you-re-one-of-the-many-critics-of-this-club-then
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Will all depend on injuries
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The Age journos' predictions for Richmond:
Jake Niall 8th
Michael Gleeson 3rd
Peter Ryan 2nd
Jon Pierik 3rd
Andrew Wu 4th
Greg Baum 9th
Sam McClure 9th
Caroline Wilson 1st
Avg. Age reader 4th
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What Jake Niall thinks
The Tigers are in a race against the clock, having bombed out in the latter half of 2021. The veterans are getting on – Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards are well past 30, while even Dusty Martin and new co-captain Dylan Grimes are 30. That said, there’s one more shot in the locker for these club heroes. To contend, as I predict they will, they’ll need Shai Bolton to shine again, Noah Balta to rebound from injury, some kids to push through and Dusty to stay upright. There’s a short-term window they can squeeze through and they should be more settled than in a messy 2021.
Why they can make the eight
After three premierships in four seasons, Richmond hit the wall after the bye last season when injuries piled up and the effort expended gave their opponents a chance to overrun them. Refreshed, with Dustin Martin healthy and other key players revitalised, the Tigers remain dangerous. After having such a settled line-up since 2017 the club sensibly went to the national draft to give young talent a chance to learn the game in the presence of seasoned veterans. They also have new skippers Toby Nankervis and Dylan Grimes and a desire to prove they are still the best. Star midfielder Dion Prestia is looking sharp after just 18 games in two seasons and Ivan Soldo’s return is welcome. - Peter Ryan
Why they can't make the eight
Having been at the top of the pile for so long, questions around their hunger remain relevant as it will only take a slight dip in their competitive edge to drop off the pace. Noah Balta has gone forward and they are trying to quickly transform former Kangaroo Robbie Tarrant and first-year player Josh Gibcus into their defensive pillars alongside Grimes. Jack Riewoldt is a champion but is in his twilight as is former captain Trent Cotchin. If their form drops at all then the Tigers, who are also likely to be without Kane Lambert, will be weakened. - Peter Ryan
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-season-preview-dees-tipped-for-another-flag-but-don-t-discount-the-tigers-20220310-p5a3e3.html
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Got love Sam McClure a carlton tragic.
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From today's The Age:
The most intriguing teams, besides the 2021 premiers, are Victorian rivals Richmond and Carlton, who will meet on Thursday before 80,000 or so.
Richmond and Carlton represent riddles of a different hue. For the Tigers, the question is whether they’ve got one more crack at a premiership, before time’s winged chariot hurries past.
I think they can return to the top four. A slowing Jack Riewoldt is still a force. New co-captain Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin are superb defenders and Noah Balta can fill a post at either end. Tom Lynch is in his prime.
And they’re a vastly improved team with Dustin Martin, a transformational footballer whose absence sank them late in 2021. Dion Prestia will be crucial in a midfield that isn’t top-four calibre.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/from-top-to-bottom-why-melbourne-richmond-and-carlton-are-the-clubs-to-watch-in-2022-20220313-p5a49a.html
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AFL website journos' predictions for Richmond:
Damian Barrett 5th
Riley Beveridge 4th
Sarah Black 7th
Nat Edwards 6th
Josh Gabelich 3rd
Sarah Olle 4th
Nathan Schmook 6th
Callum Twomey 4th
Michael Whiting 5th
Damian Barrett's Big call: Dusty to be Clarko's first signing at Gold Coast, De Goey his second.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/717215/crystal-ball-our-predictions-for-the-2022-afl-season-are-in
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Armchair Experts: Cameron Luke, Georgie Parker and Adam Cooney's preview of Richmond's 2022 season:
Click pic to watch:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/ArmchairExperts15032022.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgGmb1lLGI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgGmb1lLGI
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Armchair idiots is what they are.
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“I’ve got seven teams - Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, Geelong, Western Bulldogs, Port Adelaide and Richmond as locks,” Buckley said on SEN Breakfast.
“That’s seven of our top eight.
“I have Collingwood, GWS, Essendon, Fremantle, Carlton, West Coast and St Kilda in a second tier that are vying for that eighth spot.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/14/buckleys-top-eight-locks-plus-best-and-worst-case-scenarios-for-four-teams/
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If West Coke make the 8 , I will jump up and stay up
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Tom Morris on Fox Footy ...
And I firmly believe 2021 will prove to be an anomaly for the Tigers. Nothing went right for them last season and with a fit Dustin Martin and an extra month of pre-season, I expect them to be very difficult to overcome. Their dynasty may have another chapter yet.
LADDER PREDICTION
1. Brisbane Lions
2. Melbourne
3. Richmond
4. Port Adelaide
5. Sydney Swans
6. Western Bulldogs
7. Essendon
8. Carlton
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9. Geelong Cats
10. GWS Giants
11. St Kilda
12. Fremantle
13. Adelaide Crows
14. Gold Coast Suns
15. Hawthorn
16. North Melbourne
17. Collingwood
18. West Coast Eagles
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-tom-morris-predicted-ladder-every-club-ranked-analysis-season-preview-top-eight-finals/news-story/e8fe4d752022dac6cbda2e348c4ddf98
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Tigers fans look away now!
David Schwarz tips for the upcoming AFL season are in!
1. Melbourne
2. Port Adelaide
3. Western Bulldogs
4. Brisbane Lions
5. Sydney
6. Geelong
7. Carlton
8. GWS
https://www.3aw.com.au/the-ox-reveals-his-2022-predictions/
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Matthew Lloyd’s ladder for 2022:
1. Melbourne
2. Brisbane
3. Western Bulldogs
4. Sydney
5. Port Adelaide
6. GWS
7. Essendon
8. Richmond
https://www.3aw.com.au/matthew-lloyd-reveals-his-top-eight-for-season-2022/
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Fox Footy predictions:
Richmond to make the finals
Dermott Brereton, Jonathan Brown, Ben Cotton, Jason Dunstall, Cath Durkin, Drew Jones, David King, Max Laughton, Jordan Lewis, Chole Molloy, Cameron Mooney, Leigh Montagna, Tom Morris, Jon Ralph, Mark Ricciuto, Nick Riewoldt, Mark Robinson, Ben Waterworth.
Richmond won't play finals
Nathan Buckley, Nick Dal Santo, Brad Johnson, Garry Lyon.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-predictions-2022-who-wins-premiership-flag-fox-footy-tips-brownlow-medal-odds-rising-star/news-story/a7c008fcd754406b7df2d6a70a5f1a8e
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The six teams that can legitimately win the flag in season 2022
Rohan Connolly
ESPN
16 March 2022
Western Bulldogs
Melbourne
Brisbane
Port Adelaide
Sydney
Richmond
Whether 2021 was the beginning of the end for one of the modern game's greatest eras or just a temporary blip is one of this season's most fascinating questions. And after sticking with the Tigers a lot longer than many others last year, it won't surprise I think they're again a definite flag chance. In doing so, I'm putting much stock in the frankly ridiculous injury catalogue from last year which saw up to 10 key players miss an average of 10 games each, and choosing to largely ignore just two wins in the last 10 games, when the Tigers basically worked out the gig was up (for that season at least). With the third-oldest list in 2022, Richmond will need much better treatment at the hands of the injury gods, but you've only got to scan a list of names still including the likes of Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch, Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert, Dion Prestia, Dylan Grimes, Shai Bolton, Shane Edwards and Jaidyn Short to know these guys are still more than capable.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/33293676/afl-rohan-connolly-six-teams-legitimately-win-flag-season-2022
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Matty Lloyd now has us missing the finals when at the start of the year he had us in.
In the pre-season, Lloyd named Melbourne, Brisbane, Western Bulldogs, Sydney, Port Adelaide, GWS, Essendon and Richmond as his top eight – and has now made changes to the latter four.
Replacing them are the three breakout teams of the season thus far in Fremantle, St Kilda and Carlton, as well as Geelong.
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“That’s where Richmond is falling off the cliff. Not enough young talent coming through and their top-enders aren’t going as well.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/21/matthew-lloyd-makes-four-changes-to-his-pre-season-top-eight-prediction/
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Matty Lloyd now has us missing the finals when at the start of the year he had us in.
In the pre-season, Lloyd named Melbourne, Brisbane, Western Bulldogs, Sydney, Port Adelaide, GWS, Essendon and Richmond as his top eight – and has now made changes to the latter four.
Replacing them are the three breakout teams of the season thus far in Fremantle, St Kilda and Carlton, as well as Geelong.
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“That’s where Richmond is falling off the cliff. Not enough young talent coming through and their top-enders aren’t going as well.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/21/matthew-lloyd-makes-four-changes-to-his-pre-season-top-eight-prediction/
Cats please lool. We have plenty of youth and need one more draft to add to it.Even if not the case others teams sucked the system dry like demons and blues.
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A quarter into the season we're 12th and a game and % out of the Eight.
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Over a quarter of a way through the season, how are you feeling about your team so far? (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png)
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https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1518740385807298560
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if we look at all our losses, we were in the game until quite late into all of them. maybe clinging onto nothing but if we can bring a greater consistency in our performances over the full 4 quarters, we should be able to move up the ladder.
Carlton - leading to about halfway through the 4th
Saints - leading at 3 qtr time
Crows - leading halfway through the 3rd
Demons - leading about halfway through the 3rd
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I think the percentage says it all
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Should win the next 4 games. WC, Pies, Hawks & Bombers.
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Should win the next 4 games. WC, Pies, Hawks & Bombers.
There no guarantees there games we playing in patches at the moment can't put 4 quarters together.
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Should win the next 4 games. WC, Pies, Hawks & Bombers.
1 win will be expected, lucky to get 2, wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t win any
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Should win the next 4 games. WC, Pies, Hawks & Bombers.
1 win will be expected, lucky to get 2, wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t win any
We will beat the Eagles
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Get Dusty back, get Grimes back, get Lambert back were a 3 goal better team and we win all 4 of these.
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Should win the next 4 games. WC, Pies, Hawks & Bombers.
1 win will be expected, lucky to get 2, wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t win any
We will beat the Eagles
That’s 1 win, good job chief.
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I think the percentage says it all
Funny isn't it, we have similar % (albeit 1 less win) to the Hawks & Crows, we are being written off by all & sundry yet the media are drooling all over those other 2....
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if we look at all our losses, we were in the game until quite late into all of them. maybe clinging onto nothing but if we can bring a greater consistency in our performances over the full 4 quarters, we should be able to move up the ladder.
Carlton - leading to about halfway through the 4th
Saints - leading at 3 qtr time
Crows - leading halfway through the 3rd
Demons - leading about halfway through the 3rd
Looks can be decieving.
Carlton game they had it all over us and we hung in. inevitably the flood gates had to burst.
The Stkilda game really did flatter us it probably should have been much worse.
Demons well 31 shots to 14 says it all it could have been a demolition.
Adelaide well fair enough had our chances but could not get in front in the end they finished too strong for us.
Even the Bulldog game that we won it could have been over by half time - three quarter time
The only game we have had control in is GWS and look where they are at. Cameron must be pooting bricks atm he cannot keep his job surely.
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Can we challenge again. Then the question is at the end of the day who will Hardwick go with if we make finals.
It has been as clear as the nose on your face he will continually go back to the oldy well over kids. I think come finals the only two 23 and under will be Bolton and Balta. Balta will go back i think that is what they prefer and i think they want to play two ruckmen if they can.
If all are fit he has continually favored the following over kids and unless players are injured the kids will not get a gig. Even Gibcus will miss out if all are fit.
Vlastuin 28yo - Tarrant 33yo - Grimes 30yo
Broad 29yo - Balta 21yo - Rioli 25yo
Pickett 30yo - Martin 30yo - McIntosh 28yo
Nankervis 27yo - Cotchin 30yo - Prestia 29yo
Lambert 30yo - Riewoldt 33yo - Bolton 23yo
Castagna 26yo - Lynch 29yo - Soldo 26yo
Edwards 33yo - Short 26yo - Baker 24yo - Graham 24yo
Aarts 27yo.
Aarts as sub is probably the only questionable one when it comes to what Hardwick has done even then he has backed him in to the hilt.
Has any of these players outside of maybe three or 4 obvious ones in recent years actually been dropped.
The only ones missing from the 2020 flag are Houli and Astbury replaced by Tarrant and Soldo. That to me is a failure to evolve and keep moving fwd.
The other thing that i question and others do as well are there actually any kids who are actually better than any of those named. There is a few but most we have little to go by. The Gap between our mature players and 23 and unders in experience is huge.
This is a real conundrum and has been cause for much debate. Play the kids or make em really dominate.
The real worry and not many are saying it, the older blokes can no longer do it as well as they once did, not enough have come thru to even force regularly bad performers out. The middle tier is the biggest concern of all. the 24 25 thru 28 yr olds should be the ones taking over and there are too few capable of it.
Yep older players who can no longer win a flag for us and a ordinary middle tier. Imo the rebuild when we actually do embrace it will not be a short fix.
Can that team of players win a flag, clearly two seasons ago but not now imo. Two years is a hell of a long time in footy.Simply put imo who have failed to keep evolving.
When you look at it its time to ask should we be more positive and show more perseverence in picking kids. Is it time to be planning for the future rather than planning for a flag.
The answer to these questions should determine what you think we should be doing. What i do know is people will have differing views on it.
Its pretty clear i dont think we can win a flag and that there is too big a chasm between experienced older players and younger blokes with games behind them.
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Richmond
Maher: “There or thereabouts.”
Gaze: "Hanging around and dangerous.”
De Stoop: “Still have no idea if they’re any good.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/04/a-snapshot-of-all-18-afl-clubs-after-seven-rounds/
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“We’re starting to gel, we’re starting to connect,” Hardwick said.
The Tigers have not had more than five wins on the board after eight rounds in each of their past three flag-winning years and their injury list is short.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-misty-eyed-over-martin-as-magpies-put-loss-down-to-experience-20220507-p5ajco.html)
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We're still not yet at the standard to be a top 4 genuine contender but the results this weekend have opened up a spot in the top 4. Melbourne, Brisbane and Freo are a breakaway top 3 but we're only a game now behind 4th. An important couple of weeks coming up for us before the Bye to build some winning momentum. Drop a game and we're back in the pack trying to just scrape into the top 8.
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Damian Barrett is back on board. Reckons we can make the Top 4.
Matthew Lloyd said he initially didn't think much of us this year and at best we would just scrape into the top 8. Now he thinks with our stars all back and some naturally improvement (Short moved into the midfield, Bolton's class & Balta now back in defence) we can match every side bar Melbourne which we need to avoid.
David King still doesn't rate us. He said we are basically Essendon 2021. Good with the ball but our defending without it is still the issue.
Gerard Wheatley considered us for his current top 4 ranked teams but went for Carlton instead (along with Melb, Bris & Freo).
https://www.afl.com.au/video/758153/exclusive-vision-saints-coaching-lesson-tigers-for-top-four-
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/09/whateley-and-kings-top-4-seeds-after-round-8-2022/
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Honestly look at our run ahead.
A lot of winnable games.
Just need to be healthy and hungry in September and it may well be possible...
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Top 8 might be good just to give gibcus and mrj a taste of finals. I don’t think we have enough in the tank to go deep in sept but it will be good for development to get the kids there.
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Top 8 might be good just to give gibcus and mrj a taste of finals. I don’t think we have enough in the tank to go deep in sept but it will be good for development to get the kids there.
Anything is possible dogs made gf in 21 outside side top 4 and we're struggling going into finals.All you need to do is time that run of finals and we're proven we can you never know.For me dees or lions hold no fear at all.It's how we manage the season now consistency and injuries etc.
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I was optimistic pre season but lost a little faith after the Adelaide fiasco.
I'm starting to feel the vibe again . Next week should be our best team on paper.
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Power Rankings after Round 8
Foxsports
10 May 2022
8. RICHMOND (4-4, 116.5%)
Last week’s ranking: 11
The top seven isn’t locked, but it looks pretty solid, so there’s a race for eighth going on. If you want to make the case for the Tigers - other than the fact they own it right now - it’s about their weapons and scoring potential. Even with the huge West Coast win throwing out their numbers a bit, they’re still an exciting outfit at their best, and if Richmond does make it into the finals nobody is going to want to play them given their experience. We want to see them do it a few more times in a row before fully buying into them, though. After all we’re only a few weeks on from the Adelaide loss, which looks even worse now.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-afl-power-rankings-after-round-8-analysis-every-club-ranked-reaction-wrap-ladder-top-eight-predictions/news-story/f9650d36ec73b3b23897daeb7f1db15c
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Can the Tigers push for a top-four spot? (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f42f.png)
Catch up on this week's episode of Access All Areas (with Lloyd & Barrett):
Watch here: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1523814094859804672
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THE “SERIOUS QUESTIONS” CASTING DOUBT OVER RICHMOND’S CONTENDER STATUS
By Seb Mottram
SEN
10 May 2022
Two-time premiership Kangaroo David King remains unconvinced that Richmond are premiership material.
Despite their 4-4 record, top-eight position and dominant Round 8 win over rivals Collingwood, confusion reigns over what Richmond can do in 2022 given their rocky form in the last 12 months.
Their midfield appears thin on paper and the club's defence has conceded three 100+ scores this season, but the Tigers have won their last two in smart fashion to spark hopes in September.
However, King compared Damien Hardwick’s side to Essendon’s run in the 2021 season that netted no more than an Elimination Final.
“If you swap the sash, I think they’re Essendon of last year,” King told SEN’s Whateley.
“I think they’re brilliant with the footy, serious questions without it.
“Okay, they’ve had to leave Robbie Tarrant out, they’ve put Noah Balta back, we’ll have to see that for another block of three or four weeks and assess that.
“And they’re gettable at stoppage, so they’re still a long way from the version we know, and most of it is without the ball, they don’t win the ball back as much, intercepting the ball between the arcs as much as the previous five years.”
All things considered, he doesn’t believe they will be contending for their fourth flag in six years in 2022.
“So I don’t think they are (contenders). I’m going to love watching them play because it’s aggressive, they want the game to be fast, they want the game to be basketball because they are seriously dangerous.
“But for me, again, they are just another dangerous team.
“I understand the euphoria and excitement, but that’s not contender-type excitement for me.”
It’s an opinion shared by former AFL forward Josh Jenkins.
While admitting the Tigers play a dangerous brand of football, as evidenced by their strong 27-point win over the Magpies, he says there are too many unknowns surrounding Hardwick’s men to declare them in the race.
“We just don’t know (the Tigers),” he told SEN’s The Run Home.
“I still think a lot of us still think there is enough of those premiership stars that they can be dangerous, whether they can be any more than dangerous I’m not sure, whether they can be a contender or consistent contender, I’m not sure.
“But on their day they’re dangerous, they handled Collingwood on the weekend.”
Richmond’s percentage of 116.5 is some 11.6 per cent higher than ninth placed Collingwood, and the Tigers will look to lock in their place in the top eight when taking on Hawthorn on Saturday.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/10/the-serious-questions-casting-doubt-over-richmonds-contender-status/
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Best team or what i think they think their best team is.
Vlastuin - Tarrant- Gibcus/Broad
Rioli - Balta - Grimes
Pickett - Martin - McIntosh
Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia
Lambert - Riewioldt - Castagna
Bolton - Lynch - Martin
Graham - Short - Edwards - Soldo
Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia
The only change from 2020 is
out Astbury Houli retired
in Soldo Tarrant.
That team has been picked at every single opportunity apart from Soldo and We have put games into Gibcus.When they are fit we continue to play basically the 2020 premiership players.
It has already been shown just how ordinary we look when we cop our share of injuries and lo and behold we look decent with all or most of the oldies back.
Therin lies the conundrum. Keep playing the older players and a host of average players at the expense of playing kids and acknowledge they are going for a flag or Prioritise playing as many kids as possible in hopefully well balanced sides with enough experience around them.
Everyone knows what i think on it. Imo we cannot win another flag with the group so start to prioritise the younger players.
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RoCo's Rant: Richmond Tigers are fierce and firing again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAnciEgAhA4
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Best team or what i think they think their best team is.
Vlastuin - Tarrant- Gibcus/Broad
Rioli - Balta - Grimes
Pickett - Martin - McIntosh
Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia
Lambert - Riewioldt - Castagna
Bolton - Lynch - Martin
Graham - Short - Edwards - Soldo
Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia
The only change from 2020 is
out Astbury Houli retired
in Soldo Tarrant.
That team has been picked at every single opportunity apart from Soldo and We have put games into Gibcus.When they are fit we continue to play basically the 2020 premiership players.
It has already been shown just how ordinary we look when we cop our share of injuries and lo and behold we look decent with all or most of the oldies back.
Therin lies the conundrum. Keep playing the older players and a host of average players at the expense of playing kids and acknowledge they are going for a flag or Prioritise playing as many kids as possible in hopefully well balanced sides with enough experience around them.
Everyone knows what i think on it. Imo we cannot win another flag with the group so start to prioritise the younger players.
I think we're doing both blooding kids to.I would have Miller in.
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David King is wrong 97.68% of the time so his negative opinion of us is good for our chances this year
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Honestly look at our run ahead.
A lot of winnable games.
Just need to be healthy and hungry in September and it may well be possible...
Healthy and hungry are the keys
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Top-four contenders, finals hopefuls or no-hopers? Your AFL team reviewed
Cameron Rose
theRoar.com.au
11 May 2022
Richmond Tigers
The Tigers are still threatening to be the sleeping giant, finally sneaking into the eight for the first time this season after two wins in a row. Their loss to Adelaide feels like it could haunt them all year, potentially ruling out a top-four or top-six position come finals.
Richmond are the second-highest scoring team and will continue to be an offensive threat while Tom Lynch holds his present form. However, their defence has let them down, ranking tenth for points against and having several big runs of goals kicked against them.
The Tiges still have 21 premiership players running around and arguably the healthiest list in the competition. The ball is completely in their court from here.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/05/11/top-four-contenders-finals-hopefuls-or-no-hopers-your-afl-team-reviewed/
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Richmond
Maher: “Their best is still very good.”
Gaze: “Almost back.”
De Stoop: “Forward line ominous.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/11/a-snapshot-of-all-18-afl-clubs-after-8-rounds/
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Are the Richmond Tigers ready to roar once more in season 2022?
By Rohan Connolly
The Age
May 11 2022 - 7:39pm
There's an entirely understandable fascination in AFL football with "eras", specifically, teams that have proven their worth over a period of time with premierships. It means we talk about them endlessly, whether they're still powers or not.
Take Geelong, for example, whose status seems to have been the subject of ongoing debate for more than 10 years now, certainly since the Cats won their first flag in 2011.
Or going back a fair bit earlier, how about Hawthorn, famously written off after some dispiriting grand final defeats but which just kept rebounding against the odds and the consensus of the experts to the extent the Hawks dubbed the video of their 1991 premiership triumph: "Too old, too slow".
And into this discussion now jumps Richmond, which after three premierships over a four-season period from 2017-20, has certainly franked itself as one of the modern age's greatest teams. Are the Tigers still one of those, however? Or are we talking history? That is an intriguing question given the current state of the AFL season.
It's too easy sometimes to observe a fading power roll out a couple of vintage performances and yell: "Look out", ignoring the gradual erosion of their power and the rise of other contenders. Particularly when some absent stars return to the fold, as champion Dustin Martin did last week for Richmond.
But I'm starting to think there might be a few more roars left in the Tigers yet after their last two wins, not just a dismantling of an admittedly vulnerable West Coast by more than 100 points in Perth, but last Saturday's efficient dismissal of Collingwood at the MCG. Richmond had coughed and spluttered its way through the first six rounds of 2022. But its last two wins have put the Tigers back in the top eight for the first time since last June. And in both victories, there's been plenty of evidence the Tigers really do have their hunger back, the single quality most absent since their decline over the back end of last season.
That hunger has been apparent in the return of ferocious tackling pressure, which marked those mega-successful flag years of 2017, 19-20. And to that end, the performance particularly of Maurice Rioli and the heat he has been able to apply around the 50-metre arc has been significant.
The return of the Richmond appetite has been reflected also in the high rate of scores from turnovers forced from the Eagles and Magpies in both of those big wins. And it's also been obvious simply in Richmond's two highest scores of the season, an aggregate of 42 goals, Tom Lynch responsible for 13 of them and Jack Riewoldt half-a-dozen.
It's there also at the other end of the ground in a much more stable-looking and unflustered defensive set-up. Dylan Grimes' return from injury has clearly had a lot to do with it. But so has Noah Balta being freed to return to his valuable intercept defender role after having been forced to go forward.
With Lynch and Riewoldt having their kicking boots on, and Martin set to return to a role primarily as a goalkicking forward presence with more occasional stints in the midfield, there's a lot more flexibility for coach Damien Hardwick.
And, of course, Richmond's potential return as an entity to be feared is there in the shrinking absentee list, over the last few weeks the likes of Martin, Kane Lambert and Trent Cotchin back in the fold, and this coming weekend the considerable names of Dion Prestia and Nick Vlastuin almost certain to be added to the mix after illness.
The Tigers come up against Hawthorn this Saturday at the MCG, against whom they drew in the final home and away round last year. The Hawks have beaten Richmond just once in their last seven attempts, however, and in contrast with their opponent, have fallen away considerably in recent weeks.
In terms of how the rest of this season looks, for Richmond, it's pretty favourable. Including the Collingwood win, the Tigers have a run of seven games out of eight at their MCG home deck, 10 of the last 15, and only five games of the last 14 against teams currently in the top eight. That's a more than handy run home. So, are the Tigers ready to "Eat 'Em Alive" once more after a blip in transmission, and have a great era continue? It's still too early to say definitively. But the signs are sure starting to look ominous. And as different as the very top of the ladder is looking these days in the presence of the likes of Fremantle and Carlton, already I suspect the presence of Richmond in the lower half of the eight might be causing prospective finals opponents a little more anxiety.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7733650/are-the-richmond-tigers-ready-to-roar-once-more-in-season-2022/
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WHY A “REWIRED” RICHMOND COULD BE A “DANGEROUS” PROPOSITION
BY ANDREW SLEVISON - SEN
The critics are divided when it comes to Richmond.
Some believe they are not good enough to contend, some are indifferent and some are keeping the faith.
The analysis comes on the back of two straight wins which has seen the Tigers move into the eight as the competition’s second highest scorers - a stat which may have snuck under the radar.
On the back of their 27-point win over Collingwood last weekend, former Magpies coach Nathan Buckley dissected how Damien Hardwick has been able to turn things around after a subpar beginning to the season.
The Tigers lost to Carlton (Round 1), St Kilda (Round 3), Adelaide (Round 5) and Melbourne (Round 6), while beating GWS (Round 2) and the Western Bulldogs (Round 4), prior to successive wins over West Coast and the Pies.
Buckley has been impressed by the way Hardwick and his coaching staff have been able to “rewire” things at Punt Road.
“They got to a point where (people were saying) they don’t have this, they don’t have that and there was the slows on them,” Buckley said on SEN’s Whateley.
“I just reckon they have rewired really well.”
Buckley touched on a number of individual moves that have worked well for the Tigers, particularly in recent weeks.
“Dan Rioli wasn’t having an impact as a forward (last year) so he’s been schooled as a back. I reckon he’s playing the best footy of his career as a back,” he said.
“The last two weeks, we’ve had the second ruckman come in. So (Ivan) Soldo has come in with (Toby) Nankervis which gives you an extra (tall). It’s not just about the ruck role, it gives you an extra big body in the front half, and that’s allowed (Noah) Balta to go back.
“That may have always been the plan. ‘Noah was great at times forward, but we need to make sure we’ve got that intercept defender’. He’s played really well the last couple of weeks.
“They needed more pressure. (Liam) Baker went in behind the ball to solidify that. ‘We need more pressure because that’s what we base our game on’. Maurice Rioli has got the traits, he’s got a bit of up and go. That 10-minute period he played and you saw the excitement of his teammates to see those run-down tackles, to see the selfless play and setting up the goals.
“That could be anything. You’ve got the young kid now he feels like he belongs, he believes, is valued and trusted and his natural traits are going to make them better.
“Then you’ve got Dustin Martin sliding back in, Kane Lambert has slid back in. They still haven’t got Dion Prestia, still haven’t got (Nick) Vlastuin, (Dylan) Grimes is back in, (Josh) Gibcus is standing up as a back.
“Then Tom Lynch speaks about, ‘we just decided in the last couple of weeks to try and move the ball a little bit faster through the midfield’.
“So there’s not just the tinkering on personnel and the chess pieces, but there’s a little tinkering on the way they want to go about their offence that sets people up.”
Buckley believes the way things are turning for the Tigers makes them a “fascinating” side to watch as the season progresses and feels they could just be a “dangerous” proposition later in the campaign.
“Things are starting to open up. They’re not going to win it, they’re not going to be the same team, and they’ve acknowledged that. About a month ago, they acknowledged it, ‘we needed to make shifts’,” he added.
“The coaching staff, the connection with the players, this speaks to setting a new path forward, this is what we value you for, this is what we need you to do, this is your next challenge.
“I reckon they’re about to pop. They could well be a really dangerous team when we get to the end of the year as they continue to develop with this rewiring that’s taken place under our nose in the last month.
“The mechanic part of Richmond is fascinating at the moment and continues to take shape.
“I love seeing it from the outside in, when we see the evolution of the next best outfit just by shifting a few chess pieces around.”
The eighth-placed Tigers (4-4) will look to make it three wins on the trot when they take on 12th-placed Hawthorn (3-5) at the MCG this Saturday.
They then look ahead to the Dreamtime at the ‘G clash with Essendon the following weekend.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/11/why-a-rewired-richmond-could-be-a-dangerous-proposition/?fbclid=IwAR2oE7O8eK2XZ7WffUwD00nA0ptzCUj2IlRDCmRxp1jV2Yt30FZ_cblKhwU
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From Damian Barrett's Sliding Doors column today:
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IF ...
everyone has been doubting the flag credentials of the Tigers this year ...
THEN ...
I've held firm. And now that Dusty is back, reckon they are going to cause lots of damage in the next three months, and potentially go a long way.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/758806/if-tom-mitchell-is-being-managed-out-of-a-game-of-football-then
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AFL Power Rankings: Round 9
8. RICHMOND (5-4, 117.5%)
Last week’s ranking: 8
Tick, tick, tick. Three weeks in a row Richmond has looked impressive, first easily accounting for West Coast, then having it relatively simple against Collingwood and Hawthorn. It feels as if the Magpies and Hawks are sliding, so maybe those wins aren’t as good as they would’ve been a month ago, but you can’t criticise the Tigers for that. Assuming they get past an ailing Essendon - though the last time the Bombers copped this much criticism all week, they stormed home to win - things get a lot tougher for Damien Hardwick’s men, with Sydney, Port Adelaide, Carlton and Geelong on the docket. That's four games against the teams around them - four games that will dictate the pecking order as we head towards the season’s final months.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-9-analysis-every-club-ranked-reaction-highlights-wrap-ladder-top-eight-predictions/news-story/284d4a82c0d4811a3df8a9e914c95e26
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Have not beaten a team currently in the 8 and the last three Hawthorn,Collingwood and WCE will not make the 8 imo.
Basing the so called turn around on those three games is fraught with danger imo.
Looking at the draw we should make finals but winning it all. I don't think so. Then what for 2023?
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Have not beaten a team currently in the 8 and the last three Hawthorn,Collingwood and WCE will not make the 8 imo.
Basing the so called turn around on those three games is fraught with danger imo.
Looking at the draw we should make finals but winning it all. I don't think so. Then what for 2023?
Keep building and managing the list so as to keep it competitive and possibly challenge again.
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Have not beaten a team currently in the 8 and the last three Hawthorn,Collingwood and WCE will not make the 8 imo.
Basing the so called turn around on those three games is fraught with danger imo.
Looking at the draw we should make finals but winning it all. I don't think so. Then what for 2023?
Top 8 teams. Well we were in front of both Carlton and Saints in the last quarter. Only Dees beat us comprehensively (scoreboard flattered us).
Time will tell.
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For the younger brigade, say gibcus and mrj, making finals would be invaluable. I doubt we would have won 2017 if we didn’t experience 2013-15. I would also like to see if short is viable in the midfield during finals as well (praying he doesn’t pull a Baker post gws game) and that alone would give us good momentum for 2023 even if we get smashed in an EF
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If we get past Essendon first (don't deserve finals if we lose to them) and are 6-4, then the next 4 matches against sides also vying for the top 4/top 8 will be a decent guide and test for where we are at - Swans, Port, Blues and Cats. Win at least 3 and top 4 is a realistic shot; win 2 and it's the lower top 8; win 1 or less and we'll be struggling to scrape in and just be making up the numbers.
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Win 4 in a row yet go backwards in Foxsports' power rankings :huh3.
AFL Power Rankings after Round 10
Max Laughton
Foxsports
24 May 2022
9. RICHMOND (6-4, 120.4%)
Last week’s ranking: 8
It may not have the top-four stakes of Melbourne-Fremantle, nor the rivalry of Collingwood-Carlton, but the game we’re most keen to see this weekend is Richmond-Sydney on Friday night. We need to know if this four-game Tigers winning streak is actually them figuring things out, and getting to the level we thought they could reach pre-season, or if it’s them beating up on poor opposition (they’ve beaten 18th, 16th, 13th and 10th). The Swans in their current form aren’t a top four side but a solid fifth-to-eighth bunch, making this a perfect next step, though being without Tom Lynch will make it more difficult.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-10-analysis-every-club-ranked-reaction-highlights-wrap-ladder-top-eight/news-story/8f43cd5bafae16301ed04b29ba0411c9
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Looking at the rest of the season, I can only give us 4 definite wins on current form. We are going to need to win the next 2 against Port and Carlton to be any kind of chance of sneaking into the 8.
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Looking at the rest of the season, I can only give us 4 definite wins on current form. We are going to need to win the next 2 against Port and Carlton to be any kind of chance of sneaking into the 8.
Yep I count 4 definate wins too but I don't see any definate losses We are a chance in every game from here on. . So we could be anywhere from 4-7 to 11-0 from here on. Let's hope the the later.
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Ahhh man rather than sitting 6th or 7th and a game clear in the eight heading into the bye, we instead finish the round off 9th. Not the end of the world looking at the big picture of our season but defs a downer.
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Ahhh man rather than sitting 6th or 7th and a game clear in the eight heading into the bye, we instead finish the round off 9th. Not the end of the world looking at the big picture of our season but defs a downer.
Doesn't our lower ladder position provide us with a higher pick in the midseason draft, a slight positive if the case?
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We get to spend the bye week sitting in 9th. Hope the coaches, players and club realize it was a massive opportunity lost and respond accordingly.
No more gifted games to favorites and ill discipline has to be punished
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David King believes the 2022 AFL premiership race has been blown wide open, with up to seven clubs capable of winning this year’s flag.
“Right now you look at the ladder there, you could mount a case all the way down to even a wildcard option of Carlton (in seventh spot) going crazy for a month or six weeks at the end of the season and winning the flag.
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‘LADDER WITH THE LOT’ — RECORD AGAINST TOP-EIGHT TEAMS IN 2022
1. Fremantle (4-2, 109.1%)
2. Collingwood (3-2, 109.1%)
3. Gold Coast (3-4, 93.7%)
4. Brisbane (2-2, 108.1%)
5. W.Bulldogs (2-3, 102.0%)
6. Sydney (2-2, 100.8%)
7. Geelong (2-3, 95.3%)
8. St Kilda (2-2, 89.4%)
9. Hawthorn (2-5, 84.1%)
10. Melbourne (1-2, 94.6%)
11. Carlton (1-2, 90.9%)
12. Richmond (1-4, 87.9%)
13. Port Adelaide (1-4, 78.1%)
14. West Coast (1-4, 50.6%)
15. Adelaide (0-6, 67.7%)
16. GWS Giants (0-7, 66.4%)
17. Essendon (0-6, 63.4%)
18. North Melbourne (0-7, 48.0%)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-ladder-2022-clubs-against-top-eight-teams-rankings-finals-chances-run-home/news-story/ebbeeb360c3b7e5be869f9210afa7af7
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Gold coast lol
Amazing that we've played 5 top 8, and Deez/Blues only 3. Some clubs 7 that's rough
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https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1533617825474289667
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THE RUN HOME: BREAKING DOWN THE TOP 8 CONTENDERS AND THEIR PATH TO SEPTEMBER
Nic Negrepontis
SEN
7 June 2022
Richmond
Current record: 6-5
Run Home: Port Adelaide (MCG), Carlton (MCG), Geelong (MCG), West Coast (MCG), Gold Coast (Met), North Melbourne (MS), Fremantle (MS), Brisbane (MCG), Port Adelaide (AO), Hawthorn (MCG), Essendon (MCG).
Decisive games: Carlton, Port Adelaide x2, Brisbane, Geelong, Fremantle.
Win range: 14-17
Ladder range: 4th to 8th
Richmond fans shouldn’t be too concerned by their current ladder position given their fixture from here. They get interstate teams like Port Adelaide, Fremantle and Brisbane on their home turf, and get Carlton at a good time given their injuries.
Geelong has a ‘home’ game against them at the MCG and they should pick up wins over the likes of West Coast, North Melbourne, Hawthorn and Essendon.
If things break right for the Tigers, they could easily finish with 16 wins and finish inside the top four.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/06/the-run-home-breaking-down-the-top-8-contenders-and-their-path-to-september/
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Reckon there is 6 teams playing for 7th 8th which includes Tiges, PA, WB, GC, CO StK.
Of the 5 the dogs have a horror run where they play Bris away, Syd away, Stk marvel, Melb marvel, Geel away, Freo home. Thats as tough a block of 6 games as you can get. Think they will struggle to get there but will deserve to if they win against that lot.
Sydney have 6 games you would normally pencil in as wins so i think they are safe.
StKilda have a difficult run. syd 2 bris 2 ca, fre, geel all once. Plus wb at a time they will be up and about looking to win every game.
Reckon they should win at least 5 to qualify though.
Carlton have a decent run home and should stay top 8.
Collingwood well they have melb twice carlton Sydney and no real gimme games apart from NM. They have GCS and Adelaide away and P/A who as they get players back will be coming hard at the 8 imo.They also have Essendon who always get up for these games.
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Every club's run home: Finals beckon Pies and Suns, Blues have it tough
Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
8 June 2022
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/776087/every-club-s-run-home-finals-beckon-pies-and-suns-blues-have-it-tough
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Ladder predictor: Perfect run has Tigers dreaming big
The top-eight will be looking nervously over its shoulder as Richmond primes itself for a finals tilt. Can the Tigers make it? And, who drops out? See our run home predictor.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-every-teams-run-home-rated-where-your-club-will-finish/news-story/4c1c1cd12574802b690445dc5c75aaf9
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How ‘ordinary’ Richmond became ‘Tigers of old’ by embracing chaos footy
Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
June 8th, 2022 10:19 pm
Fox Footy’s Leigh Montagna believes the “Tigers of old” have returned as Richmond start their run for finals after last week’s bye.
Richmond sit just one win outside of the top eight after 12 rounds, with games up their sleeve against bottom three West Coast, North Melbourne and Essendon.
Seven of their final 11 games are against teams currently outside the top eight – with just two of those games interstate.
“This team could be the sleeper,” Montagna warned on AFL360.
“I think this is the Tigers of old.”
Montagna said after an “ordinary” opening six rounds where the club really “struggled”, the club had turned a corner.
“They weren’t intercepting the ball,” he said.
“They were a bit more methodical and predictable. More kick-mark and playing more boundary.”
The former Saint said it appeared the Tigers said “this is not our DNA” and opted to go back to fast-flowing footy.
“They are now playing in chaos games – the highest turnover games in the competition,” he said.
“That is suiting how they want to play, their forward half game is off the charts.
“They are embracing the chaos.”
With only big forward Tom Lynch missing from their best 22, Montagna warned Richmond were going to come hard for a spot in the top eight.
“They’ve got their brand back,” he said. “It’s a scary proposition for the rest of the comp.”
Missing a host of premiership players including Nick Vlastuin, Dustin Martin and Kane Lambert early in the season, the Tigers were ranked 16th without the footy, 18th in clearances, 17th in intercepts and 12th in turnovers.
Since Round 7, Richmond are ranked number one in the competition for intercepts and turnovers, and sit first for teams with the footy.
It is no surprise Martin made his return from a mental health break in Round 8, and is now averaging 20 touches a game.
Lynch is expected to be just one more week away with his hamstring injury in promising signs for the club for the remainder 2022.
The Tigers have missed the finals just twice since 2013 – finishing with three premierships in that time.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/how-ordinary-richmond-became-tigers-of-old-by-embracing-chaos-footy/news-story/4bb148afb033af8d98554edb65400d73
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‘It’s Richmond DNA’: Tigers reveal tactical shift that helped spark resurgence
David Zita
Fox Sports
June 10th, 2022
The “Richmond way” is back and, for at least one of the side’s mainstays, not a moment too soon.
After a spluttering start to the year, the Tigers have now won five of their last six matches and, for the time being at least, are back in the top eight following a win over Port Adelaide.
Key to the side’s turnaround from a 2-4 start to the season has been a reversion to the turnover game that has served them so well over the last five years.
Since round seven, the Tigers are the best side in the competition at scoring both from intercepts and turnover.
Forward half intercepts also see the Tigers rank best in the competition - a position they held when they won the 2020 premiership - after being the second-best side in that area in 2019 and 2021.
A mainstay of the Richmond line-up, Nathan Broad was well and truly aware of the side’s tweaks in recent weeks.
“We went away from the Richmond way a bit (at the start of the year),” he told foxfooty.com.au after Thursday night’s win at the MCG.
We tried to change and were starting to be a bit more methodical, a bit slow, which isn’t us.
“We’re chaotic and fast, so we just went back to the old Richmond way; fast, chaotic footy, get it in our forward half and then set up and keep it in there.”
The Tigers coming into 2022 after a disappointing 2021, Broad said, had looked to change things up tactically, which had led to the markedly different game style that ultimately proved ineffective to start the year.
“Yeah (by choice) a little bit. We thought we needed to tweak the way we played a bit, we thought that might’ve been the way forward so through pre-season we trained it, but come round one it didn’t really work so we had to go back to our old ways,” he said.
“We feel we’re slowly building now, we’re getting troops out on the park, we’ll get Lynchy (Tom Lynch) back next week, we’ll be at full strength so hopefully we can hit the second half of the season hard.”
Belief has never been hard to come by for this modern Richmond side, but one gets the sense Broad truly believes his words when he paints a picture of their premiership hopes this season.
“I think in 2017 we were 13th at the bye, 2019 I think we were ninth or 10th at the bye, this year we’re ninth or 10th at the bye. We’ve been here before, we’ve got the evidence to back it up and I feel like we’re really building now we’re getting our old style of footy back,” he said.
“It took a few weeks to get used to being back to the old style but I feel like we’re really building now.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-richmond-tigers-win-over-port-adelaide-stats-finals-chances-fixture-change-in-game-style-nathan-broad-interview-damien-hardwick-press-conference/news-story/8772f457e7e0de4c475c6071f2ff8cbb
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WHY 2022 HAS A “SIMILAR FEEL” TO RICHMOND'S 2019 PREMIERSHIP RUN
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
10 June 2022
David King is bullish on Richmond as we enter the second half of the season, following their Thursday night win over Port Adelaide and the general health of their list.
The Tigers kicked out to an early lead against the Power and held them at bay in a low scoring, high pressure game.
King believes they’re starting to put the pieces together at the right time of the year.
“I thought (Richmond) was very good. It was a 12-point margin in the end, but they smashed them really. It felt like a 35–40-point win really,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“If Shai Bolton kicks a couple of those five points, he blows the game apart.
“I thought they were very good. They’ve got their game back. They’re really only waiting for Tom Lynch and they’re at absolute full health. There are very few teams who are full health at Round 14.”
Kane Cornes looked ahead to the Tigers’ draw, wondering whether they have a path to the top four and potentially a fourth flag in this era.
Richmond plays Carlton and Geelong in the next fortnight, as well as Fremantle and Brisbane in Victoria in the final few months.
“Richmond’s draw is wide open now. There’s only a couple that will really challenge them in Geelong and Carlton. They probably win at worst three out of their next five. They don’t miss finals from there,” Cornes said.
“Can they do damage? Is there a premiership there to steal? Melbourne is stumbling, you look at Brisbane and Sydney and Geelong and you’re not sure about them, where do Fremantle sit in all of this.
“Is there a premiership to steal or not?”
To which King responded: “Let’s look at Round 14, 2019. Where do you reckon Richmond was on the ladder? They were ninth.
“They were outside of the eight at Round 14 in the premiership year. I think this has got a similar feel to it.
“Get everyone back and healthy, not in terms of winning premierships, but in terms of the design of the season. Get everyone as healthy as you can, if there’s any risks rest them and get them 100 per cent right.
“Then make a charge in the back six or seven weeks of the season building into a finals series.
“Damien Hardwick knows that formula. They’ve been here before.
“Health is your best player. They are looming large.”
The Tigers are expecting to get Lynch back for next Thursday’s clash with Carlton, while Kane Lambert was the medical sub in his return from a hip injury.
They are the only two players on Richmond’s injury list at the present time.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/09/why-2022-has-a-similar-feel-to-richmonds-2019-premiership-run/
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There was a graphic last night on the fox footy broadcast that showed we were AFL no.2 for quarters won and AFL no.3 for time in front or vice versa. Maybe it’s just hopeful thinking but we are a better team than our ladder position and record suggests. Just need to stop switching off for quarters at a time and when we aren’t in control not allowing the opp to get a run of goals which we are magnificent at in the premiership years.
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I mean Melbourne were never in trouble and Carlton and St Kilda beat us by 5 goals, which doesn't happen by accident.
But the umpiring was atrocious in the Adelaide game (-20 differential from memory) and the Sydney game we threw away.
It would have been completely unremarkable for us to be 9-3 with a percentage of 120 right now, placing us in the top 4. From 4th, anything can happen in the last 6 weeks of the season.
We have sure been patchy though.
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
Yep and I think it's the youth + hunger that makes them overrun us.
This is why we need kids in the team that haven't tasted the ultimate success and are desperate to keep their spots. Gibcus, Ralph, Juddy etc
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“I CAN’T SEE IT”: DAL SANTO NOT OPTIMISTIC ON ANOTHER TIGERS PREMIERSHIP PUSH
By Ethan Clark
SEN
11 June 2022
Former St Kilda midfielder Nick Dal Santo is not convinced that Richmond will make a notable impact in the back end of the season, despite a 5-1 run in their last six outings.
The Tigers currently sit eighth on the AFL ladder with a 7-5 record but face a challenging upcoming fortnight against Carlton and Geelong.
Speaking on SEN’s Crunch Time Dal Santo specified what part of the yellow and black he feels is different from their recent premiership years.
“I’ve heard some commentary this week about the Tiges (and how they are) about to launch and it's only up from here, but I can’t see it,” he said.
“Take away the numbers for a split second, my eye doesn’t have the same feel and visual that it had.
“I think they’ve lost their punch.”
The 322-gamer says the killer instinct of Damien Hardwick’s men seems to have faded due to the ageing list that still remains as the core of the group.
“They kicked five goals in the first quarter and life’s pretty and they’ve got Port Adelaide exactly where they want them (on Thursday night). Then the next hour you sort of go, 'well, nothing really happened there', they didn’t even put on a couple of goals just to keep the scoreboard ticking over,” Dal Santo explained.
“They’re not what they once were, that’s not a knock on them it's just a reality of guys getting older, and your best is somewhere behind you.
“It's going to be hard; nothing is easy anymore for Richmond and that’s just a reality of the game.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/11/i-cant-see-it-dal-santo-not-optimistic-on-another-tigers-premiership-push/
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Probably not far from the truth is this.
If it doesn’t pan out the way we like we will know why.
I lay the blame squarely at the list managers for stuffing this up last year. Fancy not recruiting anyone to help Dusty after his injury or an ageing cotch.
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Well, in all fairness, RCD and Ross where meant to be those players, but they really haven't come on..... :o
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RCD hasn’t been given a decent crack at it.
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RCD hasn’t been given a decent crack at it.
Agree. The chatter I hear of well they haven’t performed at vfl so they don’t deserve a crack is laughable. We have seen many players not even perform at senior level yet still get gifted games so what’s the difference.
Give him a good block like Ross or aarts has been given and then we can decide.
Well, in all fairness, RCD and Ross where meant to be those players, but they really haven't come on..... :o
That’s another point. Whoever thought Ross would be that guy, vrs one of the mids who were selected and who performed most weeks at vfl level last year have completely stuffed up.
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RCD hasn’t been given a decent crack at it.
I'd like to see him play out the rest of the year so we can decide on him.
Hanging on to guys like Edwards and Lambert, who I acknowledge can still contribute sometimes, has potentially hurt our development.
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RCD hasn’t been given a decent crack at it.
I'd like to see him play out the rest of the year so we can decide on him.
Hanging on to guys like Edwards and Lambert, who I acknowledge can still contribute sometimes, has potentially hurt our development.
So how do you all explain that Lambert can go into the VFL for some hits and giggles for some match fitness and racks up possessions without getting out of second gear and as bad as Ross is, the VFL makes him look like he’s Lachie Neil :rollin
And then we have guys like RCD, Stack, Mansell and Martyn that can’t get the ball more than 15 times a game on a consistent level.
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Even Ben Miller is getting it 20 times a game and hes a key defender.
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
Geez we are a blinkered lot. They carlton held us goaless in the second and we managed just one in the last. 31 shots to 21 suggests it was a bigger loss than it was. Being absolutely smashed in areas we struggle in did not help.They are areas we just don't have coming thru to change it too much.
Everyone would agree Dow Ross RC-D and Martyn were supposed to be taking over that is the only way you can analyse why we have ignored big mids and mids in general.Trouble is no one will acknowledge at just how few have come thru in over ten years despite being successful.
The Saints game well Contested ball and clearances raised their ugly head again. We may well have hung in there but the game was only going one way.
all i hear is excuses about how we were still in the game late. No mention that we did well to still be there and were literally being belted in areas.
Funny no one mentions the WB game we won that one by a margin in the end but sheesh at the same time the better team lost and it could have been ugly. in the end they wasted so many opportunities it killed em off.
Its hard to have a decent conversation when we become so blinkered. To most tiger supporters all opposition is poo and we are just better no matter how bad we perform.
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
Geez we are a blinkered lot. They carlton held us goaless in the second and we managed just one in the last. 31 shots to 21 suggests it was a bigger loss than it was. Being absolutely smashed in areas we struggle in did not help.They are areas we just don't have coming thru to change it too much.
Everyone would agree Dow Ross RC-D and Martyn were supposed to be taking over that is the only way you can analyse why we have ignored big mids and mids in general.Trouble is no one will acknowledge at just how few have come thru in over ten years despite being successful.
The Saints game well Contested ball and clearances raised their ugly head again. We may well have hung in there but the game was only going one way.
all i hear is excuses about how we were still in the game late. No mention that we did well to still be there and were literally being belted in areas.
Funny no one mentions the WB game we won that one by a margin in the end but sheesh at the same time the better team lost and it could have been ugly. in the end they wasted so many opportunities it killed em off.
Its hard to have a decent conversation when we become so blinkered. To most tiger supporters all opposition is poo and we are just better no matter how bad we perform.
Mate we could dominate every single statistic and win comfortably and you’d still find something to downplay the result. Go have a look at our contested and clearance numbers in our premiership years. You do realise at 3 qtr time of the blues game we had the same scoring shots. It was an absolute crap final qtr that cost us that one.
Yeah thinking positively about your team as opposed to crapping on them at every single opportunity oh my what has the world come to.
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David King on Fox Footy's 'First Crack' last night:
'Richmond is now racking up 80+ turnovers per game which is ridiculous (AFL average is 70). As 60% of scores come from turnovers, if Richmond keeps this up for the rest of the season then they'll win the flag'.
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RCD hasn’t been given a decent crack at it.
I'd like to see him play out the rest of the year so we can decide on him.
Hanging on to guys like Edwards and Lambert, who I acknowledge can still contribute sometimes, has potentially hurt our development.
So how do you all explain that Lambert can go into the VFL for some hits and giggles for some match fitness and racks up possessions without getting out of second gear and as bad as Ross is, the VFL makes him look like he’s Lachie Neil :rollin
And then we have guys like RCD, Stack, Mansell and Martyn that can’t get the ball more than 15 times a game on a consistent level.
Simple. He's probably more talented.
However he's not going to play for another 10 years, which is what we need to figure out about some other kids. In fact I don't think we'll get 10 games out of Lambert from here.
I don't think it's worth playing a more talented guy for 10 games than a kid who could go 10 years if he has what it takes at this stage for our club, who are likely entering a rebuild of sorts.
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
Geez we are a blinkered lot. They carlton held us goaless in the second and we managed just one in the last. 31 shots to 21 suggests it was a bigger loss than it was. Being absolutely smashed in areas we struggle in did not help.They are areas we just don't have coming thru to change it too much.
Everyone would agree Dow Ross RC-D and Martyn were supposed to be taking over that is the only way you can analyse why we have ignored big mids and mids in general.Trouble is no one will acknowledge at just how few have come thru in over ten years despite being successful.
The Saints game well Contested ball and clearances raised their ugly head again. We may well have hung in there but the game was only going one way.
all i hear is excuses about how we were still in the game late. No mention that we did well to still be there and were literally being belted in areas.
Funny no one mentions the WB game we won that one by a margin in the end but sheesh at the same time the better team lost and it could have been ugly. in the end they wasted so many opportunities it killed em off.
Its hard to have a decent conversation when we become so blinkered. To most tiger supporters all opposition is poo and we are just better no matter how bad we perform.
Mate we could dominate every single statistic and win comfortably and you’d still find something to downplay the result. Go have a look at our contested and clearance numbers in our premiership years. You do realise at 3 qtr time of the blues game we had the same scoring shots. It was an absolute crap final qtr that cost us that one.
Yeah thinking positively about your team as opposed to crapping on them at every single opportunity oh my what has the world come to.
Hmm i see we don't kick a goal in the second quarter and its not a bad quarter.
We lost because the better team won and they could well have won by more and probably should have. It was a game where one end was the scoring end and they flogged for two quarters and belted us in CLEARANCES 40-22 C/P 135- 114 WHICH RESULTED IN A WHOPPING 64 - 40 INSIDE FIFTIES.
And here you are trying to tell us we were unlucky. Take the Blinkers off and come back and see me.
You know if you weren't so invested you would be able to take the rose coloureds off and take a more even approach.
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Contraversial...
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RICHMOND'S ROUND 13 WIN HINTS AT TIGERS GETTING BACK TO THEIR BEST
By Seb Mottram
SEN
13 June 2022
The Tigers came bounding out of the blocks after their bye against Port Adelaide, booting five goals to two in the first quarter to set up what would be a 12-point win.
In what was ultimately a battle of territory, the ball spent more of the time inside Richmond’s forward half to see them claim the inside 50 count 64-48.
The scrappy nature of the contest saw both sides demonstrate poor efficiency inside 50, Richmond’s 43.8 per cent and Port Adelaide’s 35.4 per cent both well down on season averages.
Entering a contest they needed to win to stay in touch with the top eight, Damien Hardwick had the game on his terms for larger stretches as the Tigers triumphed.
There’s been plenty of debate over the past week as to whether Richmond are back to the Tigers of old, and the footy world won’t truly know until the pointy end of the season.
However, their brand of desperation and surging it forward was evident on Thursday night. Richmond had 68 one percenters, some 13 above their season average, beating the Power’s tally of 47.
As to surging it forward, the Tigers took eight bounces compared to just one for Port Adelaide, Hardwick’s side showcasing their crucial trait of taking territory.
It was the Tigers of old in Round 13, now can they keep it up for the rest of the season?
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/13/richmonds-round-13-win-hints-at-tigers-getting-back-to-their-best/
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Pies winning today does not help us at all.
Back out the 8.
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Pies winning today does not help us at all.
Back out the 8.
We have a game in hand and so need to win next week. If we're good enough then the Pies winning today won't be an issue; if we're not then we don't deserve to be in it anyway and would be just making up the numbers.
Long term as far as the flag goes today's result is good in a way. This year's premiership is now wide open with Melbourne on the slide and back in the chasing top 4 pack. As we learnt the hard way as reigning premiers in 2018, it's the second half of the season that gets you as opposition sides coming at you week after week trying to prove themselves finally wears you down. Rather than bursting out of the blocks in the first half of year, you instead need to pace yourself and make sure the team is peaking when it matters in September.
As far as us goes, our comfortable win over the Pies looks more impressive now. We're actually doing the hard stuff well and our gamestyle is back up and working. It's the dumb unforced schoolboy errors and silly undisciplined frees/50s that are still costing us and keeping opposition sides in games. It ultimately cost us the Swans game and Carlton and Geelong will make us pay if we have that many stupid U10s moments again.
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I agree Melbourne falling today actually is a long term win (if we make the 8). It removes the lustre of the invincibility of say a 2000 Essendon and instead makes them look more like st kilda 04
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Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.
Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.
Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.
Geez we are a blinkered lot. They carlton held us goaless in the second and we managed just one in the last. 31 shots to 21 suggests it was a bigger loss than it was. Being absolutely smashed in areas we struggle in did not help.They are areas we just don't have coming thru to change it too much.
Everyone would agree Dow Ross RC-D and Martyn were supposed to be taking over that is the only way you can analyse why we have ignored big mids and mids in general.Trouble is no one will acknowledge at just how few have come thru in over ten years despite being successful.
The Saints game well Contested ball and clearances raised their ugly head again. We may well have hung in there but the game was only going one way.
all i hear is excuses about how we were still in the game late. No mention that we did well to still be there and were literally being belted in areas.
Funny no one mentions the WB game we won that one by a margin in the end but sheesh at the same time the better team lost and it could have been ugly. in the end they wasted so many opportunities it killed em off.
Its hard to have a decent conversation when we become so blinkered. To most tiger supporters all opposition is poo and we are just better no matter how bad we perform.
Mate we could dominate every single statistic and win comfortably and you’d still find something to downplay the result. Go have a look at our contested and clearance numbers in our premiership years. You do realise at 3 qtr time of the blues game we had the same scoring shots. It was an absolute crap final qtr that cost us that one.
Yeah thinking positively about your team as opposed to crapping on them at every single opportunity oh my what has the world come to.
Hmm i see we don't kick a goal in the second quarter and its not a bad quarter.
We lost because the better team won and they could well have won by more and probably should have. It was a game where one end was the scoring end and they flogged for two quarters and belted us in CLEARANCES 40-22 C/P 135- 114 WHICH RESULTED IN A WHOPPING 64 - 40 INSIDE FIFTIES.
And here you are trying to tell us we were unlucky. Take the Blinkers off and come back and see me.
You know if you weren't so invested you would be able to take the rose coloureds off and take a more even approach.
AFL no.2 for quarters won and AFL no.3 for time in front (or the other way round, can’t remember), now with those numbers would you expect us to be in/around the top4 rather than in/around the top8? Don’t know who is ahead of us in those 2 categories but I’d wager it would be Melbourne/lions/dockers. So what that tells me is that we’ve dropped a few games where we haven’t put our dominance on the scoreboard and then haven’t been able to contain the opponent when the game has swung the other way.
But hey that’s just the opinion of one ‘invested’ FAN of the RFC.
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Power Ranking after Round 13
Max Laughton
Foxsports
14 June 2022
9. RICHMOND (7-5, 117.5%)
Last week’s ranking: 9
We happen to know there’s optimism inside Tigerland that they can still make a top-four charge, despite Collingwood’s Queen’s Birthday win keeping them outside of the eight. Richmond has certainly improved over the last six weeks - winning five of their last six clearly tells you that, but they’ve also gone back to the more chaotic game style that worked so well for them in years gone by. Will it be the difference in their rematch with the Blues? Keep in mind back in Round 1, they led by almost three goals at three-quarter-time. It’s a pretty huge game - with a loss they’d only be one game out of the eight, but three games back of the top four, which is a tough gap to close.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-13-analysis-highlights-every-club-ranked-ladder-top-eight-predictions/news-story/1f0249132d9e833dc418fc17fca26419
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Robbo showed this on AFL360 last night.
Richmond's intercept stats since Round 7:
AFL Rank
Intercept possessions #1
Points from intercept possessions #1
Forward half intercepts #1
Points from forward half intercepts #1
Points from intercepts differential #1
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Triple premiership Tiger Prestia felt things were generally tracking well and saw parallels with the flag-winning years.
"We're changing little things throughout the season. I feel we did that a lot in our successful years, we came in with a plan and then changed a few things from pre-season to in-season," he said.
"We're starting to get the boys a lot healthier, I think last night was pretty much close to full-strength.
"It just changes the way that we defend and things going forward attacking wise.
"I think we had 76 inside 50s (against Carlton). We'd like to score a lot more from those inside 50s but I think we're doing a lot right and still tweaking things to sharpen up by the end of the year."
Source: AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/news/781211/tigers-not-done-yet-in-form-midfielder-sees-parallels-with-flag-winning-years)
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Win next week and I’ll really start believing.
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Have people noticed our second halves have been poor. That's a bad sign for a premiership contender. It's like we're not running out games, just holding on or breaking even. In 2017 our 3rd and 4th quarters we're key to running over teams.
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Have people noticed our second halves have been poor. That's a bad sign for a premiership contender. It's like we're not running out games, just holding on or breaking even. In 2017 our 3rd and 4th quarters we're key to running over teams.
Yes and no it's a concern the fade outs , but last 2 games we managed to win and fight it out that's a good sign for me.We need to get the balance right.
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Grand Final winners usually have aa very good 3rd quarter. Ours is somewhat average ATM. But we're winning so steady as she goes I guess.
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https://twitter.com/rohan_connolly/status/1537403246305693696
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This is shaping to be a great round for us!
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Weve moved into 6th now
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Top 8 play each other next week so beating the Cats is a must if we want to be top 4, just gotta tell them it's Finals week & we should be right ;)
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The Run Home: Where every AFL club will finish on the ladder, and who’ll play finals
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 20th, 2022
6. RICHMOND (8-5, 117.8%)
Remaining games
Round 15: Geelong Cats at the MCG
Round 16: West Coast Eagles at the MCG
Round 17: Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium
Round 18: North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 79%
Remaining fixture difficulty: 4th-easiest
Here come the Tigers, with six wins from their last seven games, and every chance they’ll make that nine from 11 at the very least.
With six games left against bottom 10 sides, it’d be a surprise if Damien Hardwick’s men didn’t reach that 13-win mark that looks like the minimum to play finals in 2022.
Really, they could be dreaming of a top-four berth, as they get Geelong, Fremantle and Brisbane all in Melbourne making those games quite a bit easier.
A 15-win season is within reach, if the Tigers continue to play at their recent level. And in particular if they beat Geelong, that’s likely to be enough for the double chance.
Fox Footy’s projection: 13.35 projected wins, finishing 7th
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVm34qqacAIBHMb?format=jpg&name=large)
PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Brisbane Lions (15.45 projected wins)
2. Melbourne (15.05)
3. Fremantle (15)
4. Geelong Cats (14.7)
5. Carlton (13.6)
6. Sydney Swans (13.5)
7. Richmond (13.35)
8. Collingwood (12.7)
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9. St Kilda (12.65)
10. Western Bulldogs (11.9)
11. Gold Coast Suns (11.85)
12. Port Adelaide (10.55)
13. Hawthorn (8.3)
14. Adelaide Crows (8 )
15. GWS Giants (7.8 )
16. Essendon (6.85)
17. North Melbourne (3.4)
18. West Coast Eagles (3.25)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Brisbane Lions vs Geelong Cats at the Gabba
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Sydney Swans vs Richmond at the SCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Melbourne vs Fremantle at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-14-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/da52e00eaee61d1bff6d3ccab331ec94
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The Run Home: Where every AFL club will finish on the ladder, and who’ll play finals
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 20th, 2022
6. RICHMOND (8-5, 117.8%)
Remaining games
Round 15: Geelong Cats at the MCG Tough game probably a loss they have won the last two fairly easy.
Round 16: West Coast Eagles at the MCG. Should be a win they are getting players back so it may not be a huge thrashing.
Round 17: Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium This is a danger game especially at metricon.
Round 18: North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium a win but marvel stadium has beeen a problem for us
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium. Tough game in melbourne but worry is marvrl stadium again.
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG tough game again and no guarantees here.
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval. We got over the line at the G this time around its in Adlelaide no guarantee.
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG should win
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG Should win
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 79%
Remaining fixture difficulty: 4th-easiest
Here come the Tigers, with six wins from their last seven games, and every chance they’ll make that nine from 11 at the very least.
With six games left against bottom 10 sides, it’d be a surprise if Damien Hardwick’s men didn’t reach that 13-win mark that looks like the minimum to play finals in 2022.
Really, they could be dreaming of a top-four berth, as they get Geelong, Fremantle and Brisbane all in Melbourne making those games quite a bit easier.
A 15-win season is within reach, if the Tigers continue to play at their recent level. And in particular if they beat Geelong, that’s likely to be enough for the double chance.
Fox Footy’s projection: 13.35 projected wins, finishing 7th
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVm34qqacAIBHMb?format=jpg&name=large)
PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Brisbane Lions (15.45 projected wins)
2. Melbourne (15.05)
3. Fremantle (15)
4. Geelong Cats (14.7)
5. Carlton (13.6)
6. Sydney Swans (13.5)
7. Richmond (13.35)
8. Collingwood (12.7)
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9. St Kilda (12.65)
10. Western Bulldogs (11.9)
11. Gold Coast Suns (11.85)
12. Port Adelaide (10.55)
13. Hawthorn (8.3)
14. Adelaide Crows (8 )
15. GWS Giants (7.8 )
16. Essendon (6.85)
17. North Melbourne (3.4)
18. West Coast Eagles (3.25)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Brisbane Lions vs Geelong Cats at the Gabba
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Sydney Swans vs Richmond at the SCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Melbourne vs Fremantle at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-14-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/da52e00eaee61d1bff6d3ccab331ec94
Think the bottom line for all teams is how healthy they can stay . Still think in this we are the most vulnerable as the gap between experience and games into juniors and development players is probably the largest in the comp.
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No pressure on meatballs but basically if he gets injured our season is over. If we can keep his body in check and make the 8 all teams will poo themselves playing us
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The finals audit: How the AFL contenders stack up, and the key stat that’ll decide their fates
Catherine Healey
Foxsports
20 June 2022 8pm
6. RICHMOND
In the last seven games, the Tigers are ranked #1 in the competition in points from turnover, points differential from turnovers, forward half turnovers created and points from forward half turnovers
The experts say:
Nick Riewoldt says Richmond’s stats are the “blueprint” that underpinned their successful run of three premierships.
“It can’t be happening again can it?” he said.
“They probably lost a bit of hunger last year … (but) a player like Balta comes in who is a freakish talent.
“Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Dion Prestia – if they can stay fit and healthy, I think they’ll be there again the Tiges.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-finals-audit-how-the-afl-contenders-stack-up-and-the-key-stat-thatll-decide-their-fates/news-story/9f5e4944bb69462574533d033f5aacd6
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Power Rankings after Round 14
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 21st, 2022
1. Fremantle
2. Melbourne
3. Brisbane
4. Geelong
5. RICHMOND (8-5, 117.8%)
Last week’s ranking: 9
The Tigers’ horrific inefficiency in their victory over Carlton is one of those glass half-full or half-empty situations. Half-full? You’ll pretty much win every week if you’re recording 76 inside 50s. Half-empty? How the heck do you not kick more than 11 goals from 76 inside 50s, against a Blues defence that seems to cop a new injury every five minutes? Conditions played a part but if they can just get a bit more cohesive, suddenly these Tigers look like a genuine top-four threat. Their midfield is just so much stronger with Dion Prestia in it, and their chaos game-style is back and powerful. A win over the Cats this weekend - live and exclusive on Fox Footy and Kayo! - combined with a pretty easy draw after that game would mean the double-chance is well and truly gettable.
6. Sydney
7. W.Bulldogs
8. Carlton
9. Collingwood
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Port Adelaide
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/big-changes-in-pecking-order-as-tigers-rise-saints-slump-before-race-to-13-power-rankings/news-story/dc92e4c94300b5b906319393ae1c7790
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Tigers show glimpses of 2020 form
Matthew Lloyd and Damian Barrett discuss Richmond's game style and premiership chances on Access All Areas:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/784136/tigers-show-glimpses-of-2020-form
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Dynasty not over yet: The signs 'Tiger Time' is upon us again
All the key Richmond indicators suggest the Tigers are primed for another premiership tilt
By Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
22 June 2022
FOR SO long, Manchester United sent teams through the ringer in 'Fergie Time'. For over a decade, Lewis Hamilton has put the foot down in 'Hammer Time'. And now, with the AFL season reaching its most crucial point, the League is about to enter 'Tiger Time'.
Richmond is, once again, hitting its post-bye peak. In all three of the club's recent premiership campaigns – 2017, 2019 and 2020 – the Tigers began hitting their straps after a mid-year week off. This season may be no different.
Damien Hardwick's side went 11-3 after the bye in 2017, winning nine of its last 10 games on its way to a drought-breaking flag. It then went 12-0 after the bye in 2019 to emerge as the most dominant side in the competition. In 2020, the Tigers went 5-1 after the bye but enjoyed nine wins from their last 10 games.
This season, Richmond has only gone 2-0 since the bye. However, for a larger sample size, it has six wins in its past seven games and is undoubtedly one of the form teams in the competition. The profile of its performance also suggests there is more to come.
In every key Richmond-centric metric accumulated by Champion Data, the Tigers are replicating their '17, '19 and '20 best. It's the clearest indication yet that the 'Dimma Dynasty' might not be over.
In three important categories central to Hardwick and Richmond's recent premiership success – territory, scoring and defence – the Tigers have dominated the competition over the past two months.
In each of 2017, 2019 and 2020, Richmond ranked top four in the League for territory indicators including inside-50 differential, time in forward-half differential and the underrated stat of handball metres gained. From round seven onwards, the Tigers rank No.2 for inside-50 differential (+14.1), No.1 for time in forward-half differential (+11.57 minutes) and No.1 for handball metres gained (390.8m).
TERRITORY 2017 2019 2020 Rd 7-14, 2022
Inside-50 diff. #4 #3 #2 #2
Time in fwd-half diff. #3 #4 #1 #1
Handball metres gained #1 #1 #1 #1
In each of its three premiership seasons, Richmond has also ranked top five in the AFL for scoring indicators including scores from turnover differential, forward-half possession gains and scores from forward-half possession gains. In their past eight matches, the Tigers rank No.1 in all three categories.
They also rank No.1 for points scored in that same time period (104.7 points per game) and No.5 for scores per inside-50 entry (44.4 per cent), significantly improved numbers even when compared with their trio of premiership seasons.
SCORING 2017 2019 2020 Rd 7-14, 2022
Scores from turnover diff. #5 #2 #1 #1
Fwd-half possession gain #2 #3 #2 #1
Scores from fwd-half possession gain #5 #2 #5 #1
Then there's crucial defensive indicators including intercept marks and scores against per inside-50 entry, in which Richmond ranked top three in the League in two of three premiership seasons. This year, in its past eight games, it ranks No.2 for intercept marks (18.4) and No.6 for scores against per inside-50 entry (40.6 per cent).
DEFENCE 2017 2019 2020 Rd 7-14, 2022
Intercept marks #3 #7 #2 #2
Scores against per inside-50 % #1 #2 #6 #6
But there are also areas of Richmond's game, which weren't necessarily a strength of the Tigers throughout their recent premiership campaigns, that have drastically improved during the current season and in the past eight weeks in particular.
Not a proven ball-winning team – particularly in 2019 when the side ranked bottom four in the League for disposal differential, contested possession differential and clearance differential – Richmond has grown considerably in those areas throughout this year.
Led by Dion Prestia, since round seven the Tigers have ranked No.5 in the AFL for disposal differential (+14.4), No.6 for contested possession differential (+5.9), No.6 for uncontested possession differential (+7.9) and No.5 for clearance differential (+3.0). Never has that been more important than in their last game, when they overwhelmed the Blues' star-studded midfield on their way to another victory.
If you combine the ever-improving statistical comparisons to the continually shrinking injury list – Richmond's injury report featured just one player last week, an unwell Dustin Martin – then every signpost is pointing in the right direction at Punt Road.
And, once Martin returns – which could happen as soon as this week's crucial encounter with Geelong – focus will then shift to ensuring the triple Norm Smith Medal winner can build his loads in time for another September burst.
That, in itself, is yet another daunting prospect with 'Tiger Time' only just beginning.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/784388/dynasty-not-over-yet-the-signs-tiger-time-is-upon-us-again
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https://omny.fm/shows/marty-sheargold-show/nick-riewoldt-on-joining-the-sunday-rub-this-week
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Gerard Whateley’s top 5 most intriguing teams
3. Richmond
“I’ve gone the other way on the Saturday game, I’ve gone Richmond.
“Are they slugging away in the bottom part of the eight, or are they making a run at adding to the dynasty?”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/23/pearce-and-whateleys-top-5-most-intriguing-teams-for-round-15/
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AFL ladder predictor
Here’s how the ladder will look at the end of the year and the key contests that will shape it👇
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
June 23, 2022 - 3:50PM
At the conclusion of the three bye rounds we can now set our focus on the remaining nine weeks of the 2022 AFL home and away season.
81 matches will take place across the coming months and will decide who makes the cut for September and who will head back to the drawing board in the first month of Spring.
As things currently stand, Brisbane have their necks narrowly out in front of the finals pack, separating themselves by a matter of percentage over fellow premiership contenders Melbourne and Fremantle.
And while spots at the top of the ladder may also be in high demand - with Geelong, Sydney and Carlton circling - there is a logjam for clubs on the periphery of the finals frame that are looking to squeeze themselves into the calculations.
Ahead of Round 15, in what shapes to be a weekend that may decide the seasons for several clubs, we predict how the remaining round mat play out, predicting each club's final record and spot on the ladder some the cessation of Round 23.
1. Brisbane 18-4 129.0%
2. Melbourne 17-5 127.2%
3. Geelong 17-5 126.7%
4. Fremantle 17-5 122.1%
5. Sydney 16-6 117.3%
6. Carlton 15-7 112.4%
7. Richmond 14-8 116.1%
8. Collingwood 14-8 108.8%
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9. St Kilda 12-10 108.2%
10. Gold Coast 12-10 107.8%
11. W.Bulldogs 10-12 107.2%
12. Port Adelaide 9-13 98.4%
7. Richmond
Current Record: 8-5
Run Home: GEEL, WCE, GCS, NM, FRE, BRIS, PORT, HAW, ESS
Predicted Final Record: 14-8
Estimated Percentage: 116.1
With the Blues placed one spot above Richmond at sixth in our predictor, the two Victorian behemoths will clash heads in what would be a mouth-watering elimination final within this hypothetical.
To get there, the Tigers will pull in six wins and three losses, with matchups against the Cats, Dockers and Lions set as the biggest hills Damien Hardwick will need to climb.
Favoured to claim wins against the Power, Hawks and Bombers in the final three rounds may see the Tigers pounce up a spot or two on our ladder across the last few weeks of the season, booking themselves a place against Carlton at the MCG in September.
A win there would see them face the loser of Geelong and Melbourne, another contest at their heartland home ground.
https://www.zerohanger.com/one-club-falls-from-the-top-eight-as-hawks-secure-bottom-half-sweet-spot-afl-ladder-predictor-122240/
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‘Genuine chance’: Why the Tigers are in the premiership mix
Jon Pierik
The Age
June 25, 2022
While Michael Voss was left to rue that his Blues had been “out-toughed”, for Tigers past and present, there may have been no better compliment after they had dug deep on a chilly Thursday night at the MCG.
“When it comes down to it, they brought a better hunt, a better appetite to the contest and we weren’t able to absorb that for long enough. So, if you are not winning contests and you are losing territory, it’s a hard day,” Voss said after the Blues were beaten by 15 points last week.
Toughness, appetite, hunt … now that’s something the Tigers of yesteryear under coach Tommy Hafey and powerbroker Graeme Richmond were renowned for, and traits the grand era under Damien Hardwick has also encapsulated.
The Tigers have been building in recent weeks, this coming not long after The Saturday Age in April posed the question: Dynasty debate: Can the Tigers roar back?
After the Tigers slipped to a 1-2 start, Brisbane great Jonathan Brown, recalling the end-of-the-era Lions of 2005, also posed the question: “Can you scrap and fight and hang in there when you know your best is past you?”
It was a fair question at the time, but it’s now dated. Six wins from their past seven matches — this would have been a clean sheet had they not squandered a five-goal lead to the Swans — has the Tigers arguably the form team of the competition heading into Saturday’s twilight blockbuster against fellow heavyweight Geelong at the MCG.
The Cats, too, have been in good touch, a lethargic victory over West Coast last weekend coming amid a heavy training program ahead of tapering for the run home.
They, however, were a favoured pre-season bet to again finish in the top four. The Tigers, premiers in 2017, 2019 and 2020, missed the finals last year, with debate over whether their dynasty was over. But the manner in which they scalped the reborn Blues confirmed they are again the real deal.
Richmond had 94 intercept possessions, the eighth most in club history, and had season highs in forward-half intercepts (44), inside 50s (76) and time in forward half (plus-17.03 minutes).
Then there’s the “game of inches” Hardwick craves, praising his men for the “Richmond-man behaviours” they have shown in tackling and reclaiming loose balls.
Tigers’ senior football advisor Neil Balme said the Tigers were in a good place.
“I think we have played reasonably well throughout the whole year without necessarily getting the results. To play Geelong is a really big game for us. If we can get up in that one, we are a genuine chance [of winning the flag], I think,” Balme said.
That bid has only strengthened with Dustin Martin returning from illness. It’s been a mixed year for the three-time Norm Smith medallist, having also missed six weeks after round one through personal leave, and he hasn’t enjoyed his best form. But if he can enjoy a strong run from here, the Tigers have the game-breaker they need.
There are, however, questions. Maurice Rioli jnr was used as the substitute against the Blues and provided immediate impact when injected into the game in the final term after Noah Balta was hurt. Does he deserve to be permanently in the starting 22? And what about Shane Edwards? He appeared tired against the Blues. Has time caught up with one of the team’s key heartbeats?
Former Kangaroo Robbie Tarrant, dealing with a surgically repaired hand, appears settled in defence, but the Tigers continue to debate whether they need a specialist ruck to back up co-captain Toby Nankervis, particularly if they feel the Demons, come September, could work him over with Max Gawn and Luke Jackson.
“I think you probably do, that’s what we are aiming for, but we go week by week,” Balme said.
That the Tigers had 76 inside-50 entries against the Blues but only 11 goals continued a theme that has frustrated Hardwick. On one hand, creating those opportunities reinforced how strong their robust work was upfield. On the other, there needs to be greater symmetry inside attacking 50.
“They do like to go long, but it can be hard not to when you have [Tom] Lynch and [Jack] Riewoldt there,” one rival football-department figure said.
Lynch has 34 goals while Riewoldt, showing all the signs of playing on next year, has 24. Add electrifying high half-forward Shai Bolton (23 goals for the season; nine score involvements against the Blues) into the mix, and it’s no wonder the Tigers are keen to go long as they have aerial and ground weapons.
Opponents also point out the game of chess they face at stoppages when the Tigers push extra numbers up to the ball, including Bolton and the athletic Lynch, who can then beat their man on the dash back to attacking 50 should the Tigers win possession.
Rivals can choose to hold numbers back, but that gives the Tigers the advantage up the field.
At the other end of the ground, rebounding half-back Nick Vlastuin (10 intercept marks against the Blues) is pivotal, generating the run that Cats’ veteran Zach Tuohy says his team must be careful to not be lulled into consistently copying. Then there’s Tigers’ co-captain and key defender Dylan Grimes, who has arguably the most important job on Saturday in attempting to curb Jeremy Cameron. The former Giant averages four goals in Cats’ wins, but only one in defeats.
Hardwick, forever digging into detail, said Richmond know the blueprint they need to adopt.
“We are doing a lot of things right, but our scoring profile is probably not where we need it to be. We are getting a lot more inside 50s than our opposition, in fairness that’s been a staple of when we have had success,” he said.
“So, we know what the game looks like if we want it to look like a certain way, but we just have to get better at generating more shots on goal.”
The Tigers will miss Balta and former skipper Trent Cotchin (broken collarbone) but it’s their system that while relatively simple to explain is still, as Tuohy says, so hard to stop.
Defeat in this latest “feline frenzy” should not mean their charge ends. West Coast, Gold Coast and North Melbourne await over the ensuing three weeks, so at least two wins through this period should almost be guaranteed.
The Tigers were confident over summer there was another run in their premiership core. There’s little to suggest, certainly right now, they weren’t on the money.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/genuine-chance-why-the-tigers-are-in-the-premiership-mix-20220621-p5avaj.html
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With the ladder so tight it feels today game's is an early final. A season defining game almost even though there's still two months to go before finals. Win and the top 4 opens up for us and the media will be pumping us up for the flag; lose and we'll most likely be sitting out of the Eight and we'll be dismissed as a flag chance.
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One more goal against both the Swans and Cats and we'd be sitting top 4 tonight. Could've, would've, should've :-\.
Will need a repeat of 2019 going undefeated from here to do it. Can only see us finishing top 4 now but winning all of our 8 remaining H/A games.
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I'm not deterred on our chances if top 4 isn't possible. We should win our remaining games anyway. We'd be fav going into every one of them.
I'm happy winning a flag from 5th or 6th.
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We will win it
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After tonight I’m backing us in as long as we make finals, top4 or not*
Assuming we go into finals with a healthy list
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In another Universe we should currently be sitting on top of the ladder this year .
All the ingredients are there - just something is a little off .
Too many wins have been left on the table.
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We will give it one helluva shake not matter where we finish
Have always believed we will make finals , haven't deviated from that.
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The run home after Round 15
Ben Sutton
afl.com.au
26 June 2022
9. Richmond
32 points (eight wins, six losses), 116.2 per cent
The Tigers missed a golden chance to close the gap on the top four with Saturday's heartbreaking loss to the Cats. The good news is they have a relatively good run home with only two matches against two top-eight sides – both of which are in Melbourne. Tricky clashes against Gold Coast and Port Adelaide on the road will be crucial, but the Tigers should do enough to make finals and no one will want to face them in September.
The run home
R16: West Coast @ MCG
R17: Gold Coast @ Metricon Stadium
R18: North Melbourne @ Marvel Stadium
R19: Fremantle @ Marvel Stadium
R20: Brisbane @ MCG
R21: Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
https://www.afl.com.au/news/784927/the-run-home-blues-massive-boost-lions-cop-reality-check
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The Run Home after Round 15: Six teams fighting for last two spots in the top eight
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 27th, 2022
9. RICHMOND (8-6, 116.2%)
Remaining games
Round 16: West Coast Eagles at the MCG
Round 17: Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium
Round 18: North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 64%
Remaining fixture difficulty: Easiest
They’re out of the eight after Collingwood’s win on Sunday afternoon, but the Tigers showed more than enough to prove they remain a genuine contender in 2022.
After all a game as close as theirs against Geelong was a coin flip - and if Tom Stewart hadn’t done something so terrible, that could’ve turned it from heads to tails. Alas, the send-off rule was not implemented midgame, and so Richmond loses the eight-pointer.
We’re still feeling pretty good about their finals chances. They should go into their next three games (at least) as favourites, arguably all eight depending on how you feel about Fremantle and Brisbane on the road compared to at home.
At worst, the Tigers should win five of six against the Eagles, Suns, Kangaroos, Power, Hawks and Bombers - something would have to go terribly wrong for them to do any worse. That’s 13 wins and, with a strong percentage, they’d be safe.
St Kilda’s apparent collapse is one fewer team for them to pass. The Tigers just have to hope Collingwood slips up one or twice, or that the Bulldogs don’t bulldoze through their murderer’s row of a fixture. The latter seems more likely.
Or Richmond could win seven or eight of their last eight games and threaten a top four spot. They’re two games back but we wouldn’t put it past them.
Fox Footy’s projection: 13 projected wins, finishing 8th
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PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Melbourne (15.55 projected wins)
2. Geelong Cats (15.1)
3. Brisbane Lions (14.95)
4. Fremantle (14.45)
5. Carlton (14.25)
6. Sydney Swans (14)
7. Collingwood (13.15)
8. Richmond (13)
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9. Western Bulldogs (12.2)
10. St Kilda (12)
11. Gold Coast Suns (11.5)
12. Port Adelaide (10.95)
13. Adelaide Crows (8.3)
14. Hawthorn (7.95)
15. GWS Giants (7.35)
16. Essendon (6.1)
17. West Coast Eagles (4.25)
18. North Melbourne (2.95)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Melbourne vs Fremantle at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Sydney Swans vs Collingwood at the SCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Geelong Cats vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-15-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/e018ddea0ffbb9243a22c2145e95ac51
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David King and Gerard Whateley have named their top six seeds after Round 15 of the 2022 AFL season.
KING:
1. Melbourne
“They’re back.
“We’ve made alterations all year with Melbourne, and we shouldn’t have.”
2. Geelong
“Five in a row. Playing some serious footy.
“Measured approach to winning the flag this year.”
3. Brisbane
“I’m maintaining the faith.
“I just think up there they’re going to be a different team.
“They’ve got a winnable month.”
4. Carlton
“I think they’ve got reasons why they can challenge at the end of the year.
“Lots of stocks to come back.”
5. Richmond
“That was a cracking game of football.
“They’ve been in great form the Tigers. Their intercept game is through the roof. If (Dion) Prestia plays they win that game.”
6. Fremantle
WHATELEY:
1. Melbourne
“Melbourne are my number one seed as well.”
2. Carlton
“I love the way they’re playing.”
3. Geelong
“The first time they’ve been in my four.
“But with (Tom) Stewart to come out, that’s to be revised.”
4. Richmond
“I had a play-in game. They both played so well they’ve both gone in.
“For an hour they looked like the Richmond that I know and fear.”
5. Fremantle
“Overly harsh, but I really like my four up above.”
6. Collingwood
“You win five in a row, you roar up in my estimations.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/27/king-and-whateley-top-6-seeds-after-round-15-2022/
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Power Rankings after Round 15
Max Laughton
Foxsports
28 June 2022
1. Melbourne
2. Fremantle
3. Geelong
4. Brisbane
5. Sydney
6. RICHMOND (8-6, 116.2%)
Last week’s ranking: 5
It feels weird having so much confidence in a team that isn’t even in the top eight, but it’s hard not to believe in a Tigers side that easily could’ve (should’ve?) beaten Geelong. And remember the controversial finish to the Sydney game? Those are Richmond’s only two losses since Anzac Day. It’s clear at this point we almost need to throw out their first six weeks, as they weren’t playing this chaotic game style that worked so well for them in the past and is working wonders once again. They’ll probably need to make a run from the bottom half of the eight, but it’s very easy to imagine these Tigers in a preliminary final - beat Carlton in an elimination final, then Geelong in a semi-final, or something? - and from there anyone can win the whole damn thing. (Imagine saying the team in ninth can win the flag! What a stupid, great season this is.)
7. Carlton
8. W.Bulldogs
9. Collingwood
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Port Adelaide
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/every-topeight-spot-changes-after-afls-biggest-round-now-who-can-win-the-flag-power-rankings/news-story/72fb81dff6006bb4b2d8d64ead388c97
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Richmond fell out of the top eight with their heart-breaking loss to the Cats last Saturday, but they lost no friends in the process.
“That game had everything; just as a spectacle of Australian football, I can’t think of too many better games in recent times,” Matthew Richardson said.
In fact, such was the manner in which the Tigers went down in the MCG classic, many are saying they’re actually better placed for a tilt at a flag, despite the loss.
Richardson says the Tigers can compete with the best, but there’s one obvious obstacle in front of them first.
“I think the Tigers’ best footy is right up there with anyone at the moment,” he said.
“There hasn’t been a game this year where they haven’t been in front. They’ve had some bad quarters here and there, but overall, I think their form stacks up, I think their game plan stacks up to big September footy.
“I think they’ll be thereabouts, but the problem is: you’ve got to make the finals first. There are so many teams putting their hands up to make it because you’ve got a couple of teams at the bottom not winning, so you’re going to probably need 13 wins to make it.
“If they make it, I think Richmond’s game plan’s good enough to win a final for sure.”
Source: 7news (https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-legend-matthew-richardson-says-tigers-must-sign-liam-baker-c-7327367).
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Back in the 8 without lifting a finger :thumbsup
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My ladder predictor has us beating geelong in a qualifying final then smashing geelong again the grand final. Mark it down. Cup 14 will be in the trophy cabinet soon.
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My ladder predictor has us beating geelong in a qualifying final then smashing geelong again the grand final. Mark it down. Cup 14 will be in the trophy cabinet soon.
The stuff dreams are made of. Wouldn't mind beating Lions in a prelim while we're at it :D
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My ladder predictor has us beating geelong in a qualifying final then smashing geelong again the grand final. Mark it down. Cup 14 will be in the trophy cabinet soon.
Beating Geelong twice in the same finals series. Now that is next level and we would be in Geelong's and Salty's head for many years to come.
Make it so Richmond
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AFL run home: Who makes finals? And what will the top four look like?
Aidan Cellini
The Sporting News
1 July 2022
9. Richmond
32 points (8-6 - 116.2 per cent)
Stiff not to be in the eight, Richmond's last two months have been near faultless, with losses only coming from Sydney (six points) and Geelong (three points).
We are now witnessing the Tiger of old that saw the club break a 37-year drought in 2017, which was followed up with another two flags in three years.
Their stars are firing on all cylinders and are a very strong chance to push toward the top four, if they don't stumble against teams they should beat.
Taking on Fremantle and Brisbane in Melbourne, punters will predict Richmond's rise up the ladder to be dramatic, causing mayhem as they surpass their rivals.
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Predicted Finish
Geelong
Melbourne
Brisbane
Fremantle
Carlton
Sydney
Richmond
Collingwood
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Western Bulldogs
Gold Coast
St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Hawthorn
GWS Giants
Adelaide
Essendon
West Coast
North Melbourne
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/afl-run-home-who-makes-finals-and-what-will-top-four-look/oka98nwdunaffnpy8bciqnvd
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Back in the 8 without lifting a finger :thumbsup
And back out of the 8 without lifting a finger :thumbsdown
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Big 4 points if we can get over the line with the doggies, blues and swans now losing. Even more so if suns manage to get up over the pies.
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I genuinely believe we can win the flag
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I genuinely believe we can win the flag
Agree
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Not sure if Pies winning good for us or not. 2 injuries to the suns late might help next week if we can get over the line tomorrow
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Not sure if Pies winning good for us or not. 2 injuries to the suns late might help next week if we can get over the line tomorrow
Hopefully the Suns have a bit of a downer given they needed to win last night to keep their finals chances alive. They've also lost another defender.
Pies lose Moore which is a big loss. A team with quality KPFs will expose them. Chol was pushed aside too easily in the contest last night. A frustrating trait he had when he was with us.
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Pies have a very winnable next month starting with north next week. They have 3 tough games to close the season though. We just need to win out for the rest of the season which I think we are capable of injuries permitting.
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One game at a time let's control our own full 4 walls rest will look after itself.
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The Run Home after Round 16, predicted ladder, top eight, finals, ladder predictor, analysis, fixture
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 3rd, 2022 8:12 pm
7. RICHMOND (9-6, 117.8%)
Remaining games:
Round 17: Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium
Round 18: North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 77%
Remaining fixture difficulty: 15th-hardest
It was a hell of a lot closer than the win over the Eagles earlier this year, but the Tigers catapulted themselves back into the eight, taking advantage of loses by Sydney and the Bulldogs.
And this is why we were so confident in Richmond last week, even when they were ninth. They’ll be favoured in at least five of their last seven games and their percentage is the fifth-best in the comp.
Gold Coast next week isn’t a shoe-in, and the games against Port, Hawthorn and Essendon aren’t automatic either (especially playing Port away), but we’d be floored if Richmond didn’t get to 13 wins from here.
The Dockers and Lions games have become eight-pointers which give the Tigers a sneaky chance of cracking the top four.
Fox Footy’s projection: 13.3 projected wins, finishing 7th
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PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Melbourne (15.85 projected wins)
2. Geelong (15.3)
3. Brisbane (15.25)
4. Fremantle (14.8 )
5. Collingwood (13.85)
6. Carlton (13.7)
7. Richmond (13.3)
8. Sydney Swans (13.25)
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9. St Kilda (12.55)
10. Western Bulldogs (11.85)
11. Gold Coast Suns (10.9)
12. Port Adelaide (10.6)
13. Adelaide Crows (8.05)
14. GWS Giants (7.85)
15. Hawthorn (7.55)
16. Essendon (6.8 )
17. West Coast Eagles (4)
18. North Melbourne (2.55)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Melbourne vs Fremantle at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Collingwood vs Sydney Swans at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Geelong Cats vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Note: It was reported in 2018 the AFL would consider playing finals on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday if all four games “should” be at the MCG, rather than the usual Thursday, Friday, two on Saturday format.
The most likely alternative would be playing one at Marvel Stadium, because Geelong’s GMHBA Stadium is mid-development, though it’s hard to work out which game would move (since you wouldn’t want to shut out 40k Blues and Tigers fans). Four at the ‘G seems more likely.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-16-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/078b70593830142b4f3fbadcac9ec91f
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Matthew Lloyd has us now ranked third best in the competition behind Melbourne and Geelong.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/RichmondFormSinceR72022.png)
Source: Lloyd and Barrett on the AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/video/793824/freo-star-s-uncertain-future-key-kangas-on-rivals-radar?videoId=793824&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1656895473001)
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Matthew Lloyd has us now ranked third best in the competition behind Melbourne and Fremantle.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/RichmondFormSinceR72022.png)
Source: Lloyd and Barrett on the AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/video/793824/freo-star-s-uncertain-future-key-kangas-on-rivals-radar?videoId=793824&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1656895473001)
Melbourne and Geelong*
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Melbourne and Geelong*
Ta for the correction, TK. I'll blame my subconscious aversion to the snipers :snidegrin.
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At the end of round 16-
2017: 9-6
2019: 9-6
2020: 10-1-4
2022: 9-6……
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At the end of round 16-
2017: 9-6
2019: 9-6
2020: 10-1-4
2022: 9-6……
Gez common pattern, but cannot remember if injuries we're the same at this point.
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At the end of round 16-
2017: 9-6
2019: 9-6
2020: 10-1-4
2022: 9-6……
Gez common pattern, but cannot remember if injuries we're the same at this point.
We have a relatively clean bill of health currently
Been very lucky really and have avoided long term injuries , touchwood
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We need to find a player like we found Townsend in 2017. Someone who comes out of nowhere and starts making big contributions. I think Stack can be that player. Hes got class and a bit of spite. Townsend came in r17 of 2017 lets bring Stack in against Norf Hopefully he kicks 6 playing in the forward line and gives us this one last piece in the drive to winning this flag.
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Power Rankings after Round 16
Max Laughton
Foxsports
5 July 2022
1. Melbourne
2. Geelong
3. Brisbane
4. Fremantle
5. RICHMOND (9-6, 117.8%)
Last week’s ranking: 6
It’s not that the Tigers were terrific against West Coast, because they weren’t (allowing 93 points at the MCG is a bit of a worry). And they certainly can’t take Gold Coast lightly, especially without Dustin Martin and potentially Nick Vlastuin too. But when you’ve lost two games by a combined nine points since Anzac Day, you’re clearly very good. If the Tigers can fully capitalise on their kind remaining draw, the top four is not beyond them. And even if they’re in an elimination final - look at this way, if you know going into September they’d have to beat (for example) Collingwood (MCG), Brisbane (Gabba), Geelong (MCG) and Melbourne (MCG), would you be willing to say they couldn’t?
6. Sydney
7. Collingwood
8. Carlton
9. W.Bulldogs
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Port Adelaide
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dynasty-revival-looms-at-tigers-quiet-problem-for-afls-biggest-risers-power-rankings/news-story/15927d442d9ecf0c7b504258dc7cde00
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Power Rankings after Round 16
Max Laughton
Foxsports
5 July 2022
1. Melbourne
2. Geelong
3. Brisbane
4. Fremantle
5. RICHMOND (9-6, 117.8%)
Last week’s ranking: 6
It’s not that the Tigers were terrific against West Coast, because they weren’t (allowing 93 points at the MCG is a bit of a worry). And they certainly can’t take Gold Coast lightly, especially without Dustin Martin and potentially Nick Vlastuin too. But when you’ve lost two games by a combined nine points since Anzac Day, you’re clearly very good. If the Tigers can fully capitalise on their kind remaining draw, the top four is not beyond them. And even if they’re in an elimination final - look at this way, if you know going into September they’d have to beat (for example) Collingwood (MCG), Brisbane (Gabba), Geelong (MCG) and Melbourne (MCG), would you be willing to say they couldn’t?
6. Sydney
7. Collingwood
8. Carlton
9. W.Bulldogs
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Port Adelaide
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dynasty-revival-looms-at-tigers-quiet-problem-for-afls-biggest-risers-power-rankings/news-story/15927d442d9ecf0c7b504258dc7cde00
I'd enjoy watching those 4 Finals over summer no problem
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Jack on AFL360 last night said he thinks Melbourne's best footy is still the best but there's a large pack next whose best can beat anyone on their day. He feels we're playing pretty good footy at the moment and hopes to get the gang back together in the coming weeks so they/we are prime for the latter stages of the season.
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GARRY LYON NAMES THE SIX CLUBS HE BELIEVES CAN WIN THE 2022 PREMIERSHIP
Watson: “You’ve got Melbourne? They’re still in it?”
Lyon: “Yep.”
Watson: “Brisbane?”
Lyon: “Yep.”
Watson: “Carlton?”
Lyon: “I have, yep.”
Watson: “Geelong?”
Lyon: “Yes!”
Watson: “Fremantle.”
Lyon: “Yep.”
Watson: “Richmond?”
Lyon: “Yep.”
Watson: “St Kilda?”
Lyon: “Nope.”
Watson: “Collingwood?”
Lyon: “Not for me.”
Watson: “The Dogs?”
Lyon: “No.”
Watson: “Sydney?”
Lyon: “No, I don’t think so.”
That leaves Melbourne, Brisbane, Carlton, Geelong, Fremantle and Richmond.
The Demons, who won last year’s flag, are the current premiership favourites, ahead of the Cats, Lions, Dockers, Tigers, Blues and Magpies.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/07/lyon-names-the-six-clubs-he-believes-can-win-the-2022-premiership/
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Tonight's result shows again that this year's flag is wide open. For us is about having near our best 22 come September and not dropping winnable games before then. Our best footy is good enough to win it.
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Fremantle and lions cannot win it. Forget them.
I have it down to cats, dees, us, blues once they get their players back.
Does anyone in their right mind think Fremantle will do the job in front of 90k yelling at them. No chance.
Lions with their softness same thing.
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Injuries will only get in our way and we are getting them and niggling ones to.
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In 2017 we got rolling in r17 this week is hard against Suns we just need to win. What we need to do is spiflicat North by 20 to 25 goals build everyones confidence in r18 and make tjat the starting point in our run in towards winning it all in the finals. Getting players rested over injuries and firing late in the season when others will start to slide away.
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The Melb loss in geelong has given me hope we might be able to sneak in. It’s a lot more even than it was at the start of the year. Our best is definitely good enough. If we can get our best 22 fit by the and and make the 8 we can seriously win this.
It would be epic if geelong finish 1st we sneak into 4th and belt them in a qualifying final and then watch them lose in straight sets :pray
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Kane Cornes and David King today said it was down to three - Geelong, Melbourne and Brisbane.
Cornes: “Richmond would be the other one that I like.
“But you have to finish top four.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/08/cornes-and-king-narrow-the-premiership-race-to-three/
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Kane Cornes and David King today said it was down to three - Geelong, Melbourne and Brisbane.
Cornes: “Richmond would be the other one that I like.
“But you have to finish top four.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/08/cornes-and-king-narrow-the-premiership-race-to-three/
We will probably finish top 4 but we can win it from outside too.
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Finishing out of top 4 no issue for me dogs did in 2016 and made the GF last year to all you have to is peake for those 4 or 5 games and we're a specialist in that area.
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Finishing out of top 4 no issue for me dogs did in 2016 and made the GF last year to all you have to is peake for those 4 or 5 games and we're a specialist in that area.
100% spot on
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Finishing out of top 4 no issue for me dogs did in 2016 and made the GF last year to all you have to is peake for those 4 or 5 games and we're a specialist in that area.
100% spot on
Absolutely.
Also don't see the difference compared to our 2020 flag when we had to play 4 finals anyway. Same same.
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Cats are peaking now, 2 months before Finals start, what could possibly go wrong....
We just have to bank the wins & peak at the right time & we are right in the mix.
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One of Peggy O'Neal's last acts as President will be doing a photo shoot with her standing behind a table in the boardroom with 4 premiership cups on it. :shh
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Absolutely.
Also don't see the difference compared to our 2020 flag when we had to play 4 finals anyway. Same same.
Ref: above comment.......It's not the same., the difference was in 2020 we lost the Qualifying final to Brisbane (gave away too many free kicks as usual) but because we were Top 4, we had a second chance and the rest is history.
If we don't make the Top 4 this year, we don't have a second chance, so we need to win 4 finals in a row (includes the GF), much much harder.
I'm surprised nobody picked this up...
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Absolutely.
Also don't see the difference compared to our 2020 flag when we had to play 4 finals anyway. Same same.
Ref: above comment.......It's not the same., the difference was in 2020 we lost the Qualifying final to Brisbane (gave away too many free kicks as usual) but because we were Top 4, we had a second chance and the rest is history.
If we don't make the Top 4 this year, we don't have a second chance, so we need to win 4 finals in a row (includes the GF), much much harder.
I'm surprised nobody picked this up...
I'm aware of that.
Just don't think it's impossible for us to do it outside top 4 by winning all 4 finals.
I think nobody else said anything because they understand that.
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Premiership Hawk Campbell Brown believes Geelong is the team to beat this year.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/09/campbell-brown-names-the-side-to-beat-in-2022/
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Then only injuries can beat us coz weve got Geelong covered.
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Blew it tonight! Just couldn't afford bad slip ups. 40 points up and we throw it away :banghead.
Fifth game this year we were in front in the last quarter and lost :banghead.
Compare that to the Pies who won their 5th game by under two kicks.
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Blues, Saints, Swans, Cats, Suns.
5 games we have $#!+ The bed big time.
peeweak. The killer instinct is long gone and we are playing spuds trying to stay relevant instead of kids to move forward.
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NO!
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We are nowhere near it, we lack composure under pressure, and more importantly heart.
We are a shell of the team we have been and simply not good enough with too many players being selected just not afl quality
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9-7, 5 of those losses we’ve given up 20+ point leads in the 4th qtr :chuck
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There's a fine line where self belief and confidence tips into arrogance and complacency. We've found that line this season.
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There's a fine line where self belief and confidence tips into arrogance and complacency. We've found that line this season.
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We got 40 points up and we got arrogant and showed the Suns little respect at that point and let them back in
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The run home: Tigers' top-four hopes fade
Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
11 July 2022
8. Richmond
36 points (nine wins, seven losses) 116.4 per cent
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory against Gold Coast could really come back to bite the Tigers as they're now in the clutch of teams battling for the top eight. They're now two wins, plus percentage, outside the top four, but more notably have a host of teams breathing down their neck. They should gain some breathing space with a win over the battling Kangaroos next week, but the injury prognosis on Toby Nankervis, Ivan Soldo and Tom Lynch, along with the already-missing Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Kane Lambert will be critical.
The run home
R18: North Melbourne @ Marvel Stadium
R19: Fremantle @ Marvel Stadium
R20: Brisbane @ MCG
R21: Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
https://www.afl.com.au/news/795099/the-run-home-tigers-top-four-hopes-fade-lions-need-a-win
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Losses cut deep for Tigers, Lions
Damian Barrett
afl.com.au
11 July 2022
Richmond will almost certainly be left to rue the final quarter of that match against the Suns.
What had been looming as a potential passage to a top-four finish has instantly become a genuine fight to just stay in the eight.
The Tigers had done more than enough to win, and while injuries and suspension before (Dustin Martin, Noah Balta, Trent Cotchin, Nick Vlastuin) and injuries during (Tom Lynch, Toby Nankervis and Ivan Soldo) certainly didn’t help their cause, they weren’t the reason for defeat.
Losing matches that should have been won is now a Richmond theme of 2022. They led by 40 against the Suns, by 17 in the final quarter against Geelong in round 15 and by 33 points against Sydney in round 11.
It seemed real, the Tigers’ most unlikely of premiership tilts. It might still be, if Dusty, Lynch, Balta and Cotchin get back soon. But not for the first time this season, they have made an already tough task a whole lot tougher.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/797845/barrett-27-years-on-another-queensland-fairytale-looms
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‘Come back to haunt them’: Damning Tigers trend plays out a FIFTH time in ‘trauma’ loss
Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
July 10th, 2022 9:24 pm
Richmond has been called out for its fourth-quarter fade-outs, with dual All-Australian Leigh Montagna concerned it could cost the club a finals berth.
The Tigers were up by 42 points against the Suns at one stage of Saturday night’s clash including 28 points in the fourth quarter, but were overrun down the stretch culminating in Noah Anderson’s epic goal after the siren.
It came in a game where Tom Lynch (hamstring), Ivan Soldo (broken thumb), Toby Nankervis (PCL) were all struck down with injury, joining Dustin Martin (hamstring) and Trent Cotchin (clavicle) on the sidelines, while Nick Vlastuin also missed through suspension.
And now the Tigers’ spot in the top eight is vulnerable, sitting on equal wins to the ninth-placed Saints and a game ahead of the Western Bulldogs, Suns and Port Adelaide.
Speaking on Fox Footy’s First Crack, Montagna called the “trauma” loss to Gold Coast a “devastating blow” for Richmond for several reasons, but believes another fourth-quarter fade out would be the most frustrating element.
“One, they’ve blown four points. Two, they’ve left the door ajar for five teams to fit into one spot (in the top eight), they could’ve closed the door … the injuries,” he said.
“The frustrating part for Damien Hardwick — they’ve won the third-most quarters — only Geelong and Melbourne have won more quarters for the season than Richmond, but yet they are just clinging onto eighth spot because of poor performances particularly in just one quarter.”
In five of Richmond’s seven losses this year (Round 1 vs. Carlton, Round 3 vs. St Kilda, Round 11 vs Sydney, Round 15 vs. Geelong and Round 17 vs. Gold Coast) its led in the fourth quarter only to get run over the top of.
“This has become a bit of a trend for them this season, this fade out in the fourth quarter,” Montagna added.
“This could come back to the haunt them if they do end up missing the eight. They don’t have those wins banked, injuries become a bit of a factor.”
“All of a sudden having one more tilt at a flag — which we all thought was possible with the way they were playing through the middle part of the season — they’ve now left themselves vulnerable, and they’ll be kicking themselves if they either miss the eight or get knocked out in the first week.
“I still think they’ll be OK, but gee whiz they wouldn’t want to miss finals and not have one more crack with this team, this amazing side and another tilt at a fourth flag.”
It comes ahead of Richmond’s run home against North Melbourne (Marvel Stadium), Fremantle (Marvel Stadium), Brisbane (MCG), Port Adelaide (Adelaide Oval), Hawthorn (MCG) and Essendon (MCG).
North Melbourne legend David King did note that the missing Tigers stars were a “little rider” on the loss to Gold Coast.
“All of a sudden they’ve gone from being full bill of health, which we thought was their secret weapon, to now all of a sudden being injury riddled again,” Montagna said. “And they haven’t got enough wins banked to make sure they make the finals.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-richmond-tigers-fourth-quarter-fadeouts-trend-loss-to-gold-coast-suns-noah-anderson-goal-after-the-siren-run-home/news-story/f205532151ab737c538dde5ec993dbde
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Bad losses happening too often
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Form Ladder: Rounds 11-17
W-L %
Geelong 6-0 158.5
Collingwood 6-0 113.6
Fremantle 5-1 117.8
Gold Coast 4-2 139.2
Sydney 4-2 120.6
Port Adel. 4-2 118.8
Carlton 3-3 121.0
W.Bulldogs 3-3 110.0
Richmond 3-3 109.9
Essendon 3-3 100.4
Brisbane 3-3 97.8
Melbourne 2-4 97.6
GWS Giants 2-4 94.3
Adelaide 2-4 88.6
St Kilda 2-4 84.2
Hawthorn 1-5 78.5
West Coast 1-5 64.5
North Melb. 0-6 48.6
https://www.afl.com.au/video/798220/-tensions-rising-for-flag-hope-blues-can-bring-cats-down
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THE DAMNING STATS BEHIND RICHMOND’S ‘ALMOST’ SEASON
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
11 July 2022
Richmond has so far endured a season of missed opportunities.
The Tigers only have themselves to blame for their current predicament which has them sitting inside the eight with four sides right behind and in hot pursuit.
On Saturday evening, they lost the near-unlosable to Gold Coast.
At one stage, Damien Hardwick’s side led by 40 points in the third quarter and 28 points at the final change, but capitulated in an almost comical way.
A lack of discipline, which has plagued them for a few years now, as well as fundamental skill errors from senior players cost them dearly.
Some inexperience and a few unlucky injuries didn’t help, but largely the damage was done by players who should know and execute better.
(And how handy would Nick Vlastuin have been against the Suns if he was not suspended for an undisciplined act).
It was the most recent mishap in a season that at times has promised plenty but has disappointed just as frequently.
The Tigers have led at three-quarter time in 14 of 16 matches this year and only have a record of 9-7 to show for it.
On five occasions they have coughed up significant leads in the third or fourth terms and lost.
Carlton (Round 1): 21 points ahead in fourth quarter. Lost.
St Kilda (Round 3): 25 points ahead in third quarter. Lost.
Sydney (Round 11): 32 points ahead in third quarter. Lost.
Geelong (Round 15): 17 points ahead in fourth quarter. Lost.
Gold Coast (Round 17): 40 points ahead in third quarter. Lost.
They also led Melbourne by nine points in the third quarter of their eventual defeat to the reigning premiers.
Then there are the opposition blowouts in games they eventually won after leading comfortably.
Collingwood, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Carlton (the Round 14 version) and West Coast all ate into larger deficits with late blasts.
It’s almost the opposite of their premiership years when they would grind teams into the ground before blowing them away late.
Take into account their three most recent defeats to Sydney by six points, Geelong by three points and the Suns by two points.
If those games went the other way, the Tigers would be on 12 wins and battling for a top four position.
But the footy gods don’t care about ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’. Actual results only, please.
Only the top two teams, Geelong and Melbourne, have won more quarters this season.
Only fourth-placed Brisbane have scored more points.
But none of that matters if you don’t capitalise on the chances you create for yourself or if you fail to make the most of it in big moments.
On top of the missed opportunities, there are injuries to deal with.
Tom Lynch is expected to miss some weeks with a hamstring, Ivan Soldo has a thumb issue, Dustin Martin and Noah Balta remain hamstrung, Trent Cotchin is nursing a broken collarbone and Kane Lambert is a week-to-week proposition with his troublesome hip.
The club is also sweating on the fitness of co-captain Toby Nankervis who hurt his knee late in the loss to the Suns.
His fitness is paramount to the fortunes of this team. Any time spent on the sidelines would be heavily felt.
“They’re getting maximum out of four or five players, they’re just waiting for some of the senior core troops to come back,” David King noted on SEN’s Whateley.
Next up is the lowly North Melbourne who were good value for a win over Collingwood on Saturday, but just forgot how to win at the death. Sounds familiar.
The Kangaroos will be chipper after that and no doubt be keen to take a scalp or two on the way home. They will present a challenge.
After that it is Fremantle, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn and Essendon. Wins are required.
Getting the season back on track after such a heartbreaking defeat is one of the biggest tests Hardwick, his coaching staff and players have faced of late.
In past years, you would have faith that the Tigers could answer the challenge.
With what has gone on at stages this year, who knows?
“All I know is you don’t want to play Richmond in September,” King added.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/11/the-damning-stats-behind-richmonds-almost-season/
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The Run Home after Rd 17
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 11th, 2022
8. RICHMOND (9-7, 116.4%)
Remaining games
Round 18: North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 67%
Remaining fixture difficulty: 14th-hardest
We’re still relatively confident the Tigers will play finals - that 0.7 projected win gap between themselves and the Saints, given they’re currently on the same win total, is huge.
But their fall-from-ahead loss to Gold Coast keeps them vulnerable if they get bogged down in that tricky three-week stretch against Fremantle, Brisbane and Port Adelaide, clearly the three hardest games left on their fixture.
Win just one and Richmond should play finals, with a very healthy percentage and a likely haul of 13 wins once they account for the Kangaroos, Hawks and Bombers.
But lose all three and they could be passed if St Kilda gets its act together, or by the Suns who have four very winnable games left and would only need one upset to reach that magical 13.
Things are at least a little bit nervy now, when if they’d held onto even some of that 40-point lead, they would’ve essentially been safe.
Fox Footy’s projection: 12.8 wins, finishing 8th
PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Geelong (15.8 projected wins)
2. Melbourne (15.4)
3. Fremantle (15.3)
4. Brisbane (14.5)
5. Collingwood (14.05)
6. Carlton (14)
7. Sydney Swans (13.75)
8. Richmond (12.8 )
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9. St Kilda (12.1)
10. Gold Coast Suns (11.45)
11. Western Bulldogs (11.2)
12. Port Adelaide (10.95)
13. Hawthorn (7.9)
14. Adelaide Crows (7.65)
15. Essendon (7.5)
16. GWS Giants (7.4)
17. West Coast Eagles (3.8 )
18. North Melbourne (2.35)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Geelong Cats vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Collingwood vs Richmond at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Carlton vs Sydney Swans at the MCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Melbourne vs Fremantle at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-17-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/92246e7d44b922cf06899c43452f83a1
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The very optimistic view ...
It’s actually pretty straightforward. #Top4Tiges
We run the table.
Pies lose 2 of their last 3.
Blues drop to Lions & Cats.
Lions dusted by us & Dees.
Swans (away) get eaten by Freo
= Geelong hosting us at the G in a QF. Giddy up
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1546356951604310017
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Kingy makes some very good points here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAaYOGp56-I
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Yeah that's fair.
Although if Nank can get up I wonder if we play him vs North just so that Soldo is back the week after and then rest him.
Ryan will get mauled by Goldy and Xerri
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There’s a week bye before first week finals right? We still need buffer to stay in the 8. Also being in the 8 I believe is good for the club financially? So it’s of my opinion we can’t be to cavalier with resting key players. I’m not saying play injured players, that’s terrible for the long term for both club and players but say if a player was 95% right I wouldn’t say take a week off to freshen up with us barely in the 8.
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Power Rankings after Round 17
Max Laughton
Foxsports
12 July 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Fremantle
4. Brisbane
5. RICHMOND (9-7, 116.4%)
Last week’s ranking: 5
Look, that was a bad loss given the context of holding a 40-point lead. But we’re buying Richmond stock if you’re selling it. The Tigers still should’ve beaten the Suns - they won by 25 points on expected score - and it’s worth remembering just how bad their outs were for that game. Throw Vlastuin, Dusty or Lambert back into that side and they probably hold on. They may be without a veteran ruckman for this week but it’s an OK week to cop that sort of injury crisis. The Tigers are pretty unlikely to make the top four at this point, but they’ve only lost three games since Anzac Day - and all three by a kick.
6. Sydney
7. Carlton
8. Collingwood
9. Gold Coast
10. W.Bulldogs
11. St Kilda
12. Port Adelaide
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-17-analysis-highlights-ladder-top-eight-every-club-ranked-predictions/news-story/d344a8af9b50421b8e9c7ea2ff1fb36e
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The run home: Where the contenders stand in the race for the top eight
Jon Pierik
The Age
July 12, 2022
8 Richmond
Eighth, 9 wins, 7 losses
36 points, 116.4%
Run home:
North Melbourne (Marvel) W
Fremantle (Marvel) W
Brisbane (MCG) W
Port Adelaide (AO) L
Hawthorn (MCG) W
Essendon (MCG) W.
We say: They suddenly appear wobbly. The post-siren loss to the Suns could be haunting, exacerbated by injuries to key big men, but they do have a favourable draw. However, they need to find a way to secure at least three, possibly four, more wins and even rely on percentage. That should begin against the Kangaroos, but a potentially bruising three weeks then await against the Dockers, Lions, and a pivotal trip to face the hungry Power.
How the ladder might look
Jon Pierik's predicted ladder at the end of the home-and-away season.
Team Points
Geelong 72
Fremantle 68
Melbourne 64
Brisbane 64
Sydney 60
Carlton 56
Collingwood 56
Richmond 52
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Gold Coast 48
St Kilda 48
Port Adelaide 44
Western Bulldogs 40
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-run-home-where-the-contenders-stand-in-the-race-for-the-top-eight-20220709-p5b0cc.html
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Someone tell the writer that 36 + 4 x 5 = 56 not 52. Would probably have us finishing 6th.
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I see a 10 goal thumping of North incoming. Somehow, with the Doggies smashing the Saints, we are going to end up a game inside the 8 with a percentage of 120+. Long story short--we will be making finals from here. They need to get everyone's bodies right and then play a four-game season and see what happens.
The best I can see is losing in a prelim at this stage. We don't have the steel to get it done this year. A wasted year. (Could have finished top of the ladder very easily.)
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I see a 10 goal thumping of North incoming. Somehow, with the Doggies smashing the Saints, we are going to end up a game inside the 8 with a percentage of 120+. Long story short--we will be making finals from here. They need to get everyone's bodies right and then play a four-game season and see what happens.
The best I can see is losing in a prelim at this stage. We don't have the steel to get it done this year. A wasted year. (Could have finished top of the ladder very easily.)
Great outcome tonight
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I see a 10 goal thumping of North incoming. Somehow, with the Doggies smashing the Saints, we are going to end up a game inside the 8 with a percentage of 120+. Long story short--we will be making finals from here. They need to get everyone's bodies right and then play a four-game season and see what happens.
The best I can see is losing in a prelim at this stage. We don't have the steel to get it done this year. A wasted year. (Could have finished top of the ladder very easily.)
If we make it a 4 week season and we have our players right mentally and physically we can still win it all but my doubt is that we dont close sides out when we are 4 or 5 goals up so we cant be sure of ourselves mentally.
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Can’t beat the bottom side, says it all really
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Close thread. Its all over.
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We survive in the Eight for another week only because all four sides below us lost as well.
The Run Home after Round 18:
afl.com.au
17 July 2022
8. Richmond
36 points (nine wins, eight losses) 115.0 per cent
Saturday's shock defeat to North Melbourne shapes as being particularly costly for the Tigers, who have a difficult run of games in the next three weeks. They return to Marvel Stadium, where they have lost their past four, to take on Fremantle on Friday night before a clash with Brisbane at the MCG and a trip to face Port Adelaide. A slightly more comfortable finish follows with clashes against Hawthorn and Essendon, but Richmond looks set to need to win at least two of its next three – and beat the Hawks and Bombers – just to avoid missing the finals. – Dejan Kalinic
The run home
R19: Fremantle @ Marvel Stadium
R20: Brisbane @ MCG
R21: Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
https://www.afl.com.au/news/798736/
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Race for eighth ON but Tigers let off hook: Run Home after Round 18
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 18th, 2022
8. RICHMOND (9-8, 115%)
Remaining games
Round 19: Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: 46%
Remaining fixture difficulty: 9th-hardest
Oh dear.
An almost automatic win against North Melbourne has been baked into Richmond’s projections for a while; they should’ve won (on expected score they won by four-plus goals), but poor goalkicking and more late-game brainfades cost them another close one.
This is why we had been saying Richmond was the strong favourite for eighth... as long as nothing went catastrophically wrong. Well, losing from 40 points up one week, then losing to one of the worst teams since the competition went national, counts as things going catastrophically wrong.
The only good news was Gold Coast’s loss to Essendon, which makes it much harder for anyone below the Tigers to reach 13 wins.
The Tigers are still our favourites for eighth, but barely, facing the same equation as the other nine-win teams St Kilda and the Bulldogs - two games against the bottom six, then three tough ones.
Getting to 13 wins would now be an accomplishment - they would either need to beat two top four teams, or one and a Port Adelaide side in Adelaide, where they’ve beaten the Swans, Suns and Dogs at home.
But they probably don’t need to reach 13. It’d help. 12 may be enough, as long as the wins are by big enough margins, and the Suns don’t blow out North Melbourne by 100 in the final round or something crazy.
The Tigers have the edge. We’d still be surprised if they missed the eight from here - but not shocked. It’s a genuine race.
Fox Footy’s projection: 11.9 wins, finishing 8th
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PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Geelong Cats vs Fremantle at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Collingwood vs Richmond at the MCG
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Sydney Swans vs Carlton at the SCG
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Melbourne vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-18-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/86fc0ba0c3f5024897209175dcbabe32
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Buckley still thinks we will make the finals and finish 7th.
Nathan Buckley’s top eight below:
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. Brisbane
5. Collingwood
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Carlton
“I’ve got the Dogs, Gold Coast and St Kilda missing out by a game or two games,” the former Collingwood coach told SEN’s Whateley.
“For whatever that’s worth, that’s where I got to.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/19/buckleys-predicted-top-8-for-season-2022/
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SEN host Gerard Whateley has pinpointed 12 “swing games” that will shape the top eight come the end of the home and away season.
“Do Richmond set things right against Fremantle? ..."
Round 19
Richmond vs Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne at Marvel Stadium
Round 20
Fremantle vs Melbourne at Optus Stadium
Geelong vs Western Bulldogs at GMHBA Stadium
Richmond vs Brisbane at the MCG
Round 21
Melbourne vs Collingwood at the MCG
Western Bulldogs vs Fremantle at Marvel Stadium
Brisbane vs Carlton at the Gabba
Round 22
Melbourne vs Carlton at the MCG
Sydney vs Collingwood at the SCG
Round 23
Brisbane vs Melbourne at the Gabba
Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/19/the-12-swing-games-that-will-shape-the-top-eight/
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Power Ranking after Round 18
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 19th, 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Brisbane
4. Fremantle
5. Sydney
6. RICHMOND (9-8, 115%)
Last week’s ranking: 5
Yes, we still believe in the Tigers. After all it doesn’t take someone with the footy intellect of Daisy Pearce to know they were the better side against North Melbourne... with the notable exception of their goalkicking. Champion Data’s Expected Score said Richmond should’ve won by five goals and if the game was purely about getting it inside 50, they would’ve won by infinity. Instead the Kangaroos took their chances and the Tigers copped a brutal loss. They should still play finals - the Suns’ loss to Essendon was massive for them - but without Dustin Martin and Tom Lynch, it’ll be much harder to knock off Fremantle this Friday night. And if they don’t beat the Dockers, they have to beat at least one of Brisbane or Port Adelaide (away). Again, we think they’re good enough, and if they sneak into eighth whoever finishes fifth won’t be happy.
7. Carlton
8. Collingwood
9. W.Bulldogs
10. Port Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. St Kilda
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-18-analysis-highlights-ladder-top-eight-every-club-ranked-predictions/news-story/5c845590ab0e548e37e57427ab1b7f93
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LUKE HODGE'S TOP EIGHT PREDICTION AFTER 18 ROUNDS
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Brisbane
4. Sydney
5. Fremantle
6. Carlton
7. Collingwood
8. Richmond
“For the final spot, and a game and percentage clear, I’ve got Richmond. Which will make all the teams above them, whether you think they’re good enough to make a Grand Final or not, that’s going to make every team above them nervous.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/20/luke-hodges-top-eight-prediction-after-18-rounds/
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Tigers’ burning question: Can they beat a contender?
Of Richmond’s nine wins in season 2022, seven of those have come against teams outside the top eight: The Giants, Western Bulldogs, West Coast (twice), Hawthorn, Essendon and Port Adelaide. But they’ve fallen in matches to Carlton, Melbourne, Sydney and Geelong. The Tigers are still considered a finals threat, despite only clinging to eighth spot on the ladder by percentage, sitting 9-8 along with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda and two wins behind seventh-placed Carlton. Beat Fremantle and it’d be a big step in the right direction after last week’s shock loss to the Roos. Make finals and they loom as a “shocking match up” come September, according to David King, who told First Crack: “There’s going to be an unlucky team in fifth who is going to run into Richmond.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tipping-round-19-2022-the-blowtorch-fox-footy-commentators-afl-news-every-club-round-19-burning-question/news-story/00c2ea7bcc8eb86d1a980f10be198f4d
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Games remaining vs sides currently inside 8
4 - MELB
3 - BRIS CARL COLL GWS PORT STK WBD
2 - ADEL ESS FREM GCS RICH WCE
1 - HAW NTH SYD
0 - GEEL
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1550107128345817089
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Last couple weeks dissapointing
BUT
We know we can do it, always say you need that touch of luck come finals and if we make it - Well we can beat anyone and there will be a lot of nervous teams
I'd take an elim against the Skunks in a heartbeat and if we could play the Kitty Cats 'Would make my day' they would crumble
Oh it aint over yet people NOT YET!!!!
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One game at a time for me get the 4 points I just hope penny has dropped or it's a wasted season.
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Buckley still thinks we will make the finals and finish 7th.
Nathan Buckley’s top eight below:
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. Brisbane
5. Collingwood
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Carlton
“I’ve got the Dogs, Gold Coast and St Kilda missing out by a game or two games,” the former Collingwood coach told SEN’s Whateley.
“For whatever that’s worth, that’s where I got to.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/19/buckleys-predicted-top-8-for-season-2022/
If that was the final ladder we would go to Perth to play Freo - win that it is to Sydney (assuming Melbourne beats Swans) to play Sydney - win that it is PF v Geelong
Tough run
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Given the Dogs won tonight and they've only got one game left you would think they are likely to drop (Cats next week at Kardinia Park), we've really only got a chance of still making finals by winning all 4 remaining games. Not likely the way we are playing :help.
8. Dogs: Geel (KP) Freo (Marvel) GWS (Marvel) Haw (Launceston) ..... expect them to beat Freo at Marvel.
9. St K: Haw (Marvel) Geel (KP) Bris (Marvel) Syd (Marvel) ...... assuming they win tomorrow.
10. Rich: Bris (MCG) Port (Adel) Haw (MCG) Ess (MCG)
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Reckon it's out if us and the Doggies for 8th
But the last 3 weeks have cost us. How much? Well we will know in a fortnight
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Carlton aren't home and hosed yet. They will beat GWS but then have Adelaide away, Brisbane away, Melbourne and Collingwood. Could conceivably lose all 4, or at least 3. Having said that, I don't think we make it on current form.
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If you to a side like North you don’t deserve to make the eight, if they turn it around from here it will be a minor miracle
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A month ago I was convinced we'd make finals and give it one helluva shake
Now, especially after last night's result I highly doubt we will make the 8 :'(
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Shocking it' been last 3 games no confidence whatsoever and it aren't decline that's cost us it's ourselves our stupidity , leadership , composure and footy smarts , selection , undisciplined , fitness and medical and Dimma hasn't coached well.
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Kane Cornes discussing us and our finals chances today:
* It's not meant to be.
* Don't have the leadership out on the ground to direct and show the younger players what they have done in the past.
* Nankervis up forward was an absolute disaster. Not sure what Damien Hardwick was trying to get out of that. Clearly they were far too tall and half way through the last quarter they scrapped that.
* Some key personnel out. They have a hamstring epidemic and a soft tissue epidemic at that football club and have done for a long time.
* They are around the mark and still will be hard to beat and can cause some chaos. However, you line their team up with the Bulldogs for that last spot and it's chalk and cheese.
Source: AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/video/805790/revealing-angle-in-balta-brain-fade-swans-secret-weapon-fires?videoId=805790&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1658585755001)
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He's a flog but 100% correct.
This year has been an abomination from round one.
It's been really hard to watch all year.
Our fitness and conditioning has been an absolute disaster and I'm glad there's change coming.
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Kane Cornes discussing us and our finals chances today:
* It's not meant to be.
* Don't have the leadership out on the ground to direct and show the younger players what they have done in the past.
* Nankervis up forward was an absolute disaster. Not sure what Damien Hardwick was trying to get out of that. Clearly they were far too tall and half way through the last quarter they scrapped that.
* Some key personnel out. They have a hamstring epidemic and a soft tissue epidemic at that football club and have done for a long time.
* They are around the mark and still will be hard to beat and can cause some chaos. However, you line their team up with the Bulldogs for that last spot and it's chalk and cheese.
Source: AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/video/805790/revealing-angle-in-balta-brain-fade-swans-secret-weapon-fires?videoId=805790&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1658585755001)
Actually don't agree with the last paragraph. The Dog's have a good midfield but overall our list is better.
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Yeah agree Dogs are no good. Stop Bont and MacRae and they are a bottom 6 side.
Actually give Suns a fair chance. Maybe not ready yet but will go past a few clubs very soon.
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The run home: Will Tigers miss out?
Nick D'Urbano
afl.com.au
25 July 2022
10. Richmond
38 points (nine wins, eight losses, one draw) 114.5 per cent
Two points are better than none, but four would've been worth their weight in gold as Richmond remains in the dogfight for the final spot in the top eight. The Tigers now sit just outside the top eight, two points adrift of the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda, heading into the final four games of the season. Richmond only plays one more side in the top eight during the run home - with that coming next weekend at home against Brisbane - but its remaining three come against difficult opposition. Port Adelaide is still gunning for a finals berth while Hawthorn and Essendon have been no easybeats of late. In positive news, the Tigers should regain Tom Lynch for the huge contest against the Lions.
The run home
R20: Brisbane @ MCG
R21: Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
https://www.afl.com.au/news/803050/the-run-home-swans-eye-top-two-will-tigers-miss-out-
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Foxsports has us now finishing Ninth :P.
Dogs’ upset puts Tigers on the brink: Run Home after Rd 19
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 25th, 2022
10. RICHMOND (9-8-1, 114.5%)
Remaining games
Round 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: Between 69% (10-8) and 32% (9-9)
Remaining fixture difficulty: 10th-hardest
Whichever of the Bulldogs and Tigers doesn’t play finals will be one of the best teams to miss the eight in years. But they’ll only be able to blame themselves.
Yet another failure to close out a winnable, close game means for the first time this year we’re not projecting Richmond to play finals. But it’s still incredibly close.
The draw doesn’t really help them - it’s like having a percentage of a billion, so as long as they finish level on wins with the Bulldogs (and/or Saints) they’ll be OK... it’s just a question of whether they can do that.
You would expect the Dogs to reach at least 12 wins by beating GWS and Hawthorn, so the Tigers must win three of their last four. That’s certainly doable; they’re still to play three teams below them on the ladder. (Though Port Adelaide and Essendon are way scarier than their ladder positions suggest.)
Look. If either team deserved the win on Friday night, it was Richmond. They are clearly still a high-quality team, and if we do the traditional ladder predictor and tip every game, we still have the Tigers playing finals (on 12 wins and a draw, with the Bulldogs on 12).
But in the last five minutes of games, they turn into a Benny Hill skit. And we don’t think he ever played finals.
Fox Footy’s projection: 11.85 wins, finishing 9th
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PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Geelong Cats (16.8 projected wins)
2. Melbourne (15.2) [ahead on percentage]
3. Brisbane Lions (15.2)
4. Fremantle (14.8 )
5. Collingwood (14.75)
6. Sydney Swans (14.65)
7. Carlton (13.95)
8. Western Bulldogs (12.2)
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9. Richmond (11.85)
10. St Kilda (11.8 )
11. Gold Coast Suns (10.45)
12. Port Adelaide (10.2)
13. Hawthorn (8.5)
14. Essendon (8.05)
15. Adelaide Crows (7)
16. GWS Giants (6.55)
17. West Coast Eagles (3.1)
18. North Melbourne (2.95)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-19-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/0e9fd16b9f5e1c8be5d09899afdef6ce
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The AFL website is predicting us to finish 9th :P.
Our reporters' predicted final ladder
Richmond's draw with Fremantle in round 19 proved costly as the Tigers missed the eight.
1. Geelong
2. Brisbane
3. Sydney
4. Fremantle
5. Melbourne
6. Carlton
7. Collingwood
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Richmond
10. Port Adelaide
11. St Kilda
12. Gold Coast
13. Hawthorn
14. Essendon
15. Adelaide
16. Greater Western Sydney
17. West Coast
18. North Melbourne
https://www.afl.com.au/news/806938/top-eight-double-chance-who-misses-we-predict-the-ladder
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Power Rankings after Round 19
Max Laughton
Foxsports
26 July 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. Brisbane
5. Fremantle
6. Collingwood
7. Carlton
8. RICHMOND (9-8-1, 114.5%)
Last week’s ranking: 6
It’s hard to come up with something fresh to say about the Tigers when we feel the same way as we have for weeks - they’re better than their record, and they’ve had plenty of bad luck. But their record is going to cost them finals if they don’t beat at least one of Brisbane or Port Adelaide over the next two weeks. At the very least it’s inevitable that a very good team (Richmond or the Bulldogs) will miss the eight, summing up how long the list of contenders is this season. They’re totally good enough to beat the Lions this weekend; but Kane Lambert’s retirement feels like a bit of an end of an era, doesn’t it? He was so crucial to their premiership years, and more exits are surely coming. They need to take this chance to play finals because even if their luck turns next year, they surely won’t be as good of a side.
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Port Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. St Kilda
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-19-analysis-highlights-ladder-top-eight-every-club-ranked-predictions/news-story/fe2add38282e1a6505979b855689ef13
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On the Couch and AFL 360 last night had a few more stats about Richmond.
Quarters won:
1. Geelong 69 (1st)
2. Melbourne 67 (2nd)
3. Richmond 62 (10th) :P
Opposition scores per inside D50:
Richmond 2022 9th
Recent premiership teams have been top 4 in this stat.
Richmond 2017 3rd
Richmond 2019 1st
Richmond 2020 4th
West Coast 2018 1st
Melbourne 2021 1st
Finally, Nick Riewoldt reckoned given our recruiting last year (5 picks inside the top 30) and us debuting 14 players over the past two years while our premiership champions are still around to teach them successful habits, we won't bottom out in the medium term and will mostly remain in contention like Geelong and Sydney have over the past 15 or so years.
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On the Couch and AFL 360 last night had a few more stats about Richmond.
Quarters won:
1. Geelong 69 (1st)
2. Melbourne 67 (2nd)
3. Richmond 62 (10th) :P
Opposition scores per inside D50:
Richmond 2022 9th
Recent premiership teams have been top 4 in this stat.
Richmond 2017 3rd
Richmond 2019 1st
Richmond 2020 4th
West Coast 2018 1st
Melbourne 2021 1st
Finally, Nick Riewoldt reckoned given our recruiting last year (5 picks inside the top 30) and us debuting 14 players over the past two years while our premiership champions are still around to teach them successful habits, we won't bottom out in the medium term and will mostly remain in contention like Geelong and Sydney have over the past 15 or so years.
I agree on this last part, looking at our season, it's guys like Baker, Short & Bolton who have stepped up to be our main guys. pretty much all of the kids we have played have shown something also.
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Race for eighth: An AFL finals spot is heating up
Peter O'Keefe
theinnersanctum.com.au
29/07/2022
Richmond – 10th (9-8-1 W/L/D, 114.5%)
As referenced by coach Damien Hardwick himself, the Tigers themselves are shooting themselves in the foot. If scenarios played out differently, we could be evaluating them as one of, if not the best team in the league.
Over the past three weeks, Richmond has conceded a 40-point lead to Gold Coast, inexplicably lost to North Melbourne, then missed late opportunities in a draw with Fremantle.
The Tigers rank third in scoring this season, but are ranked 10th in points against. Opposing teams have been able to take advantage of momentum and reel in large margins, evident in multiple fourth quarter fade-outs this season.
They have another massive clash this weekend against Brisbane, before finishing with Port Adelaide, Hawthorn and Essendon.
Anything could happen in that stanza of games, but don’t be surprised if the Tigers find a rhythm and win all four of them. Given their experience and recent successes, this is not a team the opposition will want to face in the first week of finals.
What’s the outcome?
St Kilda’s tough fixture makes things incredibly difficult for them, leaving the spot to either the Tigers or Bulldogs. Richmond’s draw against Fremantle means percentage is unlikely to play a factor.
The Bulldogs’ next two games might prove the difference either way, while the Tigers, despite their poor recent form, could foreseeably go in as favourites in all four of their matches.
For this reason, and given their premiership experience, expect Richmond to have one more finals campaign in it despite its position below the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda currently.
https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-finals-dogs-saints-tigers/
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Um the loss to North really was the final straw
I’m not sure why they still think we are able to beat top eight teams when we haven’t looked close all year and we struggled beat the worst team since Fitzroy. :help
I think mentally we were probably gone with the close loss to the cats at the G.
The biggest disappointments this year have been our new captains for lack of leadership and stupid decision making that has effected the whole team.
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The Run Home after Round 20
Trent Masenhelder
afl.com.au
31 July 2022
9. Richmond
42 points (10 wins, one draw, eight losses) 114.0 per cent
The Tigers’ season looked dead and buried at half-time on Sunday, but the pre-eminent team since 2017 pulled (another) one out of fire to keep their season alive. Their once-unlikely victory keeps them within reach of the eight, ahead of a tough challenge against Port in Adelaide on Saturday night. The Power are playing well without winning, and will doubtless be hungry for some late-season redemption. If Richmond can get past Port, they are a big chance to make the top eight, with their last two opponents being Hawthorn and Essendon at the MCG. Put simply, the Tigers can’t afford any missteps.
The run home
R21: Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
https://www.afl.com.au/news/808089/the-run-home-lions-double-chance-blow-blues-could-miss
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The way we are playing could win all 3 and equally likely could lose all 3. It really is the age old saying ‘one week at a time’
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Gotta get Dustys hammy 100% right before finals.
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Gotta get Dustys hammy 100% right before finals.
Agreed. I've got 8/1 on Dusty's hammy winning the Norm Smith.
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You took unders. Shoulda asked for 20s
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You took unders. Shoulda asked for 20s
Mate it's a shoe-in. :snidegrin
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Need to drop Edwards and play a kid.
The kids are hungrier and that's the bottom line.
If everyone gets fit - Gibcus, Dusty, Grimes.
Maybe we could give things a shake if we have our day.
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Foxsports now tipping us to finish 8th (provided we beat Port).
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Run Home after Round 20
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
July 31st, 2022 7:59 pm
- Richmond’s comeback over the Lions puts them back as favourites for eighth, but if they lose to the Power next week and the Western Bulldogs beat Fremantle, that’ll flip once again. And both teams can make it if the Blues finish 0-3;
9. RICHMOND (10-8-1, 114%)
Remaining games
Round 21: Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval
Round 22: Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 23: Essendon at the MCG
Historic chance of playing finals from current record: Not enough data (82% from 11-8, 47% from 10-9)
Remaining fixture difficulty: 13th-hardest
And breathe, Richmond fans.
Finally winning a close one - that sure as hell wasn’t close in the second term - has the Tigers back as our favourites for eighth.
Now the draw actually comes in handy, as it’s like holding an infinite percentage lead over the Bulldogs (though a win obviously would’ve been better).
The Tigers should only need to match the Dogs’ record over the next three weeks to play finals. On paper, both look good chances of going 2-1, which would be enough for Damien Hardwick’s men to sneak in.
They’ll know heading into Saturday night’s game against the Power what they need, because the Bulldogs play Fremantle earlier in the day. If the Dogs win and the Tigers lose, then the Dogs become favourites for eighth again.
The Saints, the actual holders of eighth, could obviously ruin all of this but if you’ve watched them play and think they’re going to beat two of Geelong, Brisbane and Sydney... well, that sounds optimistic.
As long as they go 2-1 they could also pass an 0-3-finishing Carlton, so that’s another door that’s open to Richmond even if they lose to Port Adelaide.
Fox Footy’s projection: 12.35 wins, finishing 8th
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PROJECTED FINAL LADDER
1. Geelong Cats (17.2 projected wins)
2. Melbourne (15.75)
3. Sydney Swans (15.15)
4. Collingwood (15.15)
5. Brisbane Lions (14.75)
6. Fremantle (14.3)
7. Carlton (13.35)
8. Richmond (12.35)
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9. Western Bulldogs (12.05)
10. St Kilda (12)
11. Gold Coast Suns (10.7)
12. Port Adelaide (9.75)
13. Essendon (8.35)
14. Hawthorn (8.1)
15. Adelaide Crows (7.55)
16. GWS Giants (6)
17. West Coast Eagles (2.85)
18. North Melbourne (2.65)
PROJECTED WEEK 1 OF FINALS
First Qualifying Final (1st hosts 4th): Geelong Cats vs Collingwood at the MCG
First Elimination Final (5th hosts 8th): Brisbane Lions vs Richmond at the Gabba
Second Elimination Final (6th hosts 7th): Fremantle vs Carlton at Optus Stadium
Second Qualifying Final (2nd hosts 3rd): Melbourne vs Sydney Swans at the MCG
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-the-run-home-after-round-20-predicted-ladder-top-eight-finals-ladder-predictor-analysis-fixture/news-story/8bef43cce0c7b8e41be3c1d29ad65b24
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZEF2EuaMAA9ncd?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/sope_creations/status/1554029775727267840
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Love that. :)
Go you good things. :gotigers
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"What hasn't been spoken about enough is that Richmond are a bloody good team.
"They're certainly up there with the best and they brought that on the weekend. I don't think the ladder position represents where they're at."
- Eric Hipwood.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/812076/lions-remaining-optimistic-despite-sunday-heartbreaker-says-tall-forward
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AFL Power Rankings after Round 20
Max Laughton and Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
2 August 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. Brisbane
5. Collingwood
6. Fremantle
7. RICHMOND (10-8-1, 114.0%)
Last week’s ranking: 8
That was one mightily impressive comeback. Just when we thought Richmond had completely lost the ability to close out tight games, it produces the comeback of 2022, turning a 42-point deficit into a seven-point win. Noah Cumberland has added an exciting edge to the Tigers’ forward 50, while Shai Bolton … well, some believe he’s now the best player in the competition. There’s still a mini watch on their defence – they’ve 89 points or more in five of their past six games – while the fact they’re ranked 18th for pressure applied across those past six matches is a concern. Still, you wouldn’t want to play the Tigers in an elimination final …
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Carlton
10. Port Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. St Kilda
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-20-fox-footy-ladder-analysis-highlights-top-eight-every-club-ranked-predictions/news-story/7cea3a11d7bba38b5ba90887a18f2f54
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While Richmond is well and truly in finals survival mode, a loss to Port Adelaide will put a serious dent in its chances of jumping into the eight.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/812026/the-10-games-to-watch-crucial-clashes-that-will-shape-the-eight
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Pts R21 R22 R23
7. Carlton 48: Bris (Gabba) Melb (MCG) Coll (MCG)
8. St Kilda 44: Geel (KP) Bris (Marvel) Syd (Marvel)
9. Richmond 42: Port (Adel) Haw (MCG) Ess (MCG)
10. Bulldogs 40: Freo (Marvel) GWS (Marvel) Haw (Launceston)
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AFL website's Top 8 predictions:
Sarah Olle & Callum Twomey:
Geelong 72
Melbourne 64
Sydney 64
Brisbane 64
Fremantle 62
Collingwood 60
Richmond 54
W.Bulldogs 52
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Carlton 52
Riley Beveridge:
Geelong
Melbourne
Sydney
Brisbane
Fremantle
Collingwood
W.Bulldogs
Carlton
https://www.afl.com.au/video/812187/who-finishes-in-the-eight-after-round-23
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Us making it at the expense of Carlton would be absolutely gold
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Us making it at the expense of Carlton would be absolutely gold
Very much so.
One of the few potential Schadenfreude items that would make me happy enough without winning the flag.
Also includes:
Geelong not winning the flag
Brisbane not winning the flag
Collingwood not winning the flag
Melbourne not winning the flag (less so than the above 3)
So yeah, kinda hoping that someone like Freo, Swans or Saints get up and win it despite my mild nausea.
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Us making it at the expense of Carlton would be absolutely gold
Very much so.
One of the few potential Schadenfreude items that would make me happy enough without winning the flag.
Also includes:
Geelong not winning the flag
Brisbane not winning the flag
Collingwood not winning the flag
Melbourne not winning the flag (less so than the above 3)
So yeah, kinda hoping that someone like Freo, Swans or Saints get up and win it despite my mild nausea.
fantastic post and in fact its like i wrote it myself
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Collingwood pull another one out their arse.
15.6.96.
Wish we could kick like that!
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:We're a 6 goal better side than them. Unbelievable
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:We're a 6 goal better side than them. Unbelievable
Are we? We can’t tackle for poo this year on all areas of the field
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Collingwood pull another one out their arse.
15.6.96.
Wish we could kick like that!
I wouldn’t say that.Collingwood had 70 tackles tonight and their pressure is elite. This winning style can make any ordinary team successful.
Fly has instilled the Richmond dna into this group with the secret ingredient that made us so successful but that has seemed to have been lost to us for most of this year and last year and because of it we now look very ordinary losing close games even to the likes of Norf. :facepalm
I blame;
1) attitude of both players and coaches
2) lowering of standards by coaches and players
3) poor fitness
4) poor development
5) skimping in football department with the loss of quality people to other clubs who obviously can afford them :banghead
As much as it irks me to see Collingwood successful you have to be impressed with their commitment to raise the standard especially when it’s needed. They also didn’t skimp on professional coaches that are highly regarded that obviously know what is required for success.
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Collingwood pull another one out their arse.
15.6.96.
Wish we could kick like that!
I wouldn’t say that.Collingwood had 70 tackles tonight and their pressure is elite. This winning style can make any ordinary team successful.
Fly has instilled the Richmond dna into this group with the secret ingredient that made us so successful but that has seemed to have been lost to us for most of this year and last year and because of it we now look very ordinary losing close games even to the likes of Norf. :facepalm
I blame;
1) attitude of both players and coaches
2) lowering of standards by coaches and players
3) poor fitness
4) poor development
5) skimping in football department with the loss of quality people to other clubs who obviously can afford them :banghead
As much as it irks me to see Collingwood successful you have to be impressed with their commitment to raise the standard especially when it’s needed. They also didn’t skimp on professional coaches that are highly regarded that obviously know what is required for success.
U say we skimped etc, IMO Macrae can't ask for the same $$$ as Dimma as a snr Coach when they signed him up. This is where the soft cap has hurt us.
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Some good points
Collingwood are using the Richmond blueprint in every way , culture ,game style, enjoying the game ,team first with Mcrea and Leppa there how could they not
Leppa imo was our greatest coaching loss, his no bs attitude complimented the other coaches
I still can’t believe we didn’t go hard for Paddy Lipinski, anyone still think he wouldn’t have been a good pick up for us
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Some good points
Collingwood are using the Richmond blueprint in every way , culture ,game style, enjoying the game ,team first with Mcrea and Leppa there how could they not
Leppa imo was our greatest coaching loss, his no bs attitude complimented the other coaches
I still can’t believe we didn’t go hard for Paddy Lipinski, anyone still think he wouldn’t have been a good pick up for us
we didn't go hard for anyone Cam. It was a terrible off season for us culminating in contract extensions for disposable players like George.
Tigeritis is 100% right. Too many blokes or girls on the payroll that could have been flipped for an extra assistant.
Back to the pre 2016 set up we have gone.
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Some good points
Collingwood are using the Richmond blueprint in every way , culture ,game style, enjoying the game ,team first with Mcrea and Leppa there how could they not
Leppa imo was our greatest coaching loss, his no bs attitude complimented the other coaches
I still can’t believe we didn’t go hard for Paddy Lipinski, anyone still think he wouldn’t have been a good pick up for us
Terrible decision not getting Lipinski he went for what a 3rd rounder?
Honestly I'd have taken a guy like Casboult too given he was completely free - after the loss of CCJ and Chol, Soldo coming back from a knee, Ryan being a bean pole and Nank getting regularly injured.
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Pies aren't nothing special , but McRae has them playing as a team with non negotiable and working hard with quality football people around the coach to. Pies a not fluking nothing.
As the previous post said our standards have dropped on and off the field.
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How anyone thinks we had a terrible offseason last year is heyond me.
Ill take Gibcus, Brown, Sonsie, Banks and Clarke over Lipinski or any other C grader any day of the week for an offseason recruitment result. Time to go vack to tje draft and get another 3 or 4 kids and then start bringing in free agents and trade in players.
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I don’t think Lipinski is a hack and he is playing good football to anyone who has watched any Collingwood games. He is just a little older than the kids would have been better value for a third round pick than a lot of them as most are yet to prove they will make it to the seniors
Im not sure who saying the off season was a disaster but Im not sure why we got 3 back flankers and a small forward when we clearly needed tall forwards and mids like Lipinski
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All our 5 kids from last year will make it imho. We took best available. Theres no point taking a player in the draft to fill in a position if the young man isnt going to make it.
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How anyone thinks we had a terrible offseason last year is heyond me.
Ill take Gibcus, Brown, Sonsie, Banks and Clarke over Lipinski or any other C grader any day of the week for an offseason recruitment result. Time to go vack to tje draft and get another 3 or 4 kids and then start bringing in free agents and trade in players.
we did mate, not in terms of the kids i should have said in terms of FA or otherwise.
what did we do? Ageing midfield and forward lines and who did we get? What we did was extend contracts to George.
That IMO is poor decision making.
Always happy to go to the draft, but IMO the club mistakenly thought we had the goods to contest so didnt really look around for anyone like the names mentioned.
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I don’t think Lipinski is a hack and he is playing good football to anyone who has watched any Collingwood games. He is just a little older than the kids would have been better value for a third round pick than a lot of them as most are yet to prove they will make it to the seniors
Im not sure who saying the off season was a disaster but Im not sure why we got 3 back flankers and a small forward when we clearly needed tall forwards and mids like Lipinski
Bingo and good point. Another mistake.
Without looking at our draftees are they any good? Outside of Gibcus of course.
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Well Sonsie has been terrific in his games for a kid, Clarke has shown he knows how to kick goals in games when he played seniors, Brown is really coming on in terms of his development in the twos and Banks I think hes going to be terrific in the midfield in the future, just a really classy kid with the footy.
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Our path to the finals can get easier if Freo keeps going
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Our path to the finals can get easier if Freo keeps going
Our path was pretty easy but we stuffed it by losing to Geelong, Gold Coast and the worst loss to Norf :banghead. And the ridiculous draw with Freo :help.
Absolutely our own fault.
Why we have abandoned what made us successful is mindboggling.
And our fitness this season has been below standard as we can’t compete for 4 quarters.
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All the result so far this weekend have gone our way :thumbsup. Now we don't have to rely on anyone else. Just got to make sure we do our part focusing on beating Hawthorn next week.
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Anyone else thinking that if we win next week and Saints lose to Brisbane we rest a dozen players in the last round to give them two weeks off to get fit for a four game post-season?
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Anyone else thinking that if we win next week and Saints lose to Brisbane we rest a dozen players in the last round to give them two weeks off to get fit for a four game post-season?
Yep
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Anyone else thinking that if we win next week and Saints lose to Brisbane we rest a dozen players in the last round to give them two weeks off to get fit for a four game post-season?
Nope
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No chance.
One week off and that’s it. If Burge did his job properly one would be enough.
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I can't remember a time when it's worked. Recent examples I can think of are North Melbourne 2015 (prelim) and Fremantle under Ross Lyon in 2013 (grand final loss).
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I can't remember a time when it's worked. Recent examples I can think of are North Melbourne 2015 (prelim) and Fremantle under Ross Lyon in 2013 (grand final loss).
Can you recall if there was a week off after H&W in those examples?
I actually can’t remember.
I see cats have already started to rest players over the weekend. Different position to ourselves obviously.
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Need to win next two matches.
Don’t flirt with form.
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No rest for me unless someone key to our structure is limping week to week. Bye before finals is more than enough.
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Not sure about challenging again in 2022, but hopefully we can wave to Carlton as we overtake them next week ...
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The Run Home
afl.com.au
7 August 2022
7. Carlton
48 points (12 wins, eight losses) 109.6 per cent
There are nervous times ahead for Blues fans following Sunday's loss to Brisbane. Although teams outside the eight stumbled at the weekend, Carlton still needs one more win to lock away a berth in the finals. They should regain ruckman Marc Pittonet to face Melbourne next Saturday night, but will wait nervously for the MRO's findings on skipper Patrick Cripps. It all could boil down to an absolute blockbuster final Sunday afternoon of the home-and-away season against arch rival Collingwood at the MCG. - Michael Whiting
The run home
R22: Melbourne @ MCG
R23: Collingwood @ MCG
8. Richmond
46 points (11 wins, eight losses, one draw) 115.8 per cent
Despite a horror patch last month, consecutive wins against Brisbane and Port Adelaide mean Richmond's finals destiny is back in its own hands. The Tigers have a two-point buffer on St Kilda, and are six points clear of the Western Bulldogs in 10th. Hawthorn and Essendon have both thrown up a few curveballs throughout the season, so it's not the straightest run to September, but the Tigers should be good enough to scrape through. - Sarah Black
The run home
R22: Hawthorn @ MCG
R23: Essendon @ MCG
9. St Kilda
44 points (11 wins, nine losses) 101.1 per cent
The loss to Geelong on Saturday night, coupled with Richmond's win over Port Adelaide, means the Saints have fallen to ninth and sit two points behind the Tigers heading into the final two games of the season. Now, a horror fortnight awaits the Saints who quite simply need to beat Brisbane at Marvel Stadium under the bright lights of Friday night football. After that, another monster clash against top-four fancy Sydney awaits in the final game of the home and away season. But two wins still may not be enough for Brett Ratten's charges, who require one of Hawthorn or Essendon to upset the Tigers in the final fortnight, or for Carlton to go winless in the final fortnight. It's a big ask, but there's still a chance. - Nick D'Urbano
The run home
R22: Brisbane @ Marvel Stadium
R23: Sydney @ Marvel Stadium
10. Western Bulldogs
40 points (10 wins, 10 losses) 107.9 per cent
Following their loss to Fremantle, the Western Bulldogs will need to win both games across the final fortnight to play in September. And even then, Luke Beveridge's side will need other results to fall in their favour after back-to-back losses against premiership contenders Fremantle and Geelong. The past three games were always the challenge, but now they must beat Greater Western Sydney and Hawthorn – who both won on the weekend – if they are going to feature in the finals. - Josh Gabelich
The run home
R22: Greater Western Sydney @ Marvel Stadium
R23: Hawthorn @ UTAS Stadium
https://www.afl.com.au/news/812637/the-run-home-five-teams-three-spots-who-misses-top-four-
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Should win our two comfortably. Don't deserve to make finals if we can't beat them.
Can comfortably see Carlton and Saints lose their last two.
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Finals equation for all 10 contenders
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
August 8th, 2022
8. RICHMOND (11-8-1, 115.8%)
To play: Hawthorn at the MCG, Essendon at the MCG
Easiest path to top eight: Win both games
Best case: Finish 6th if they go 2-0 and Carlton goes 1-1 or worse and Fremantle goes 0-2
Worst case: Miss finals
Analysis:
It was a great weekend for the Tigers, who would need to fall back into their “how did they lose that?!?!” ways to miss the eight from here, in our view. As long as they win one of their next two they should play finals, since the Bulldogs would be eliminated and the Saints would need to finish 2-0 to pass them. Win both - and they’ll be favourites in both - and they can pass Carlton too. That scenario that sees them sixth is probably a bit too hard, because the Dockers would need to lose to the Eagles and Giants, and that means an interstate elimination final is on the cards. But that’s the cost of their bad losses.
Our prediction: Finish 7th, face Brisbane in an elimination final
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PREDICTED FINAL LADDER
1. Geelong Cats (18-4)
2. Sydney Swans (16-6)
3. Melbourne (16-6)
4. Collingwood (16-6)
5. Fremantle (15-6-1)
6. Brisbane Lions (15-7)
7. Richmond (13-8-1)
8. Western Bulldogs (12-10)
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9. Carlton (12-10)
10. St Kilda (11-11)
11. Gold Coast Suns (10-12)
12. Port Adelaide (9-13)
13. Hawthorn (8-14)
14. Essendon (8-14)
15. Adelaide Crows (8-14)
16. GWS Giants (6-16)
17. West Coast Eagles (2-20)
18. North Melbourne (2-20)
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2022-the-run-home-after-round-21-predicted-ladder-top-eight-news-predictor-what-contenders-need-to-play-finals/news-story/20c2807b895a007f58ab444f787ad9ad
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Why would that game be at the gabba ?.
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whoever finishes higher gets a home final, unless its cats vrs a melbourne team :lol
Should we play an interstate team in the second week its also going to be interstate. Only if they finish higher than us, which they most likely will.
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Why would that game be at the gabba ?.
LOL . Why wouldnt it be?
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So interstate final v Brisbane then potentially interstate again v Sydney
Get through that then Pre Lim v Geelong before Melbourne in GF
Win all the way would be one of the greatest premierships ever
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I’m very happy with that pathway
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I reckon we should beat Hawthorn and Essendon first.
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Provided we win both of our final H/A games, I got (rigged ;D ) from the ladder predictor (https://predictor.squiggle.com.au/):
1. Geelong 72
2. Sydney 64
3. Collingwood 64
4. Fremantle 62
5. Melbourne 60
6. Brisbane 60
7. Richmond 54
8. W.Bulldogs 48
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9. Carlton 48
10. St Kilda 48
EF: Brisbane @ Gabba
SF: Collingwood @ MCG
PF: Geelong @ MCG
GF: Sydney @ MCG
So only one interstate trip.
I reckon we should beat Hawthorn and Essendon first.
Spot on. Need to get there first.
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One game at a time the rest will take care of it's self.
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Interesting stat on First Crack last night in terms of form against the top sides this year.
Quarters won/lost against the top 8: (ties not included)
W L Diff
Geelong 16 10 +6
Sydney 14 9 +5
Richmond 17 14 +3
Collingwood 15 12 +3
Melbourne 17 15 +2
Brisbane 12 14 -2
Bulldogs 19 23 -4
Carlton 12 20 -8
Fremantle 13 22 -9
St Kilda 14 26 -12
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Should win our two comfortably. Don't deserve to make finals if we can't beat them.
Can comfortably see Carlton and Saints lose their last two.
Isn’t the whole ‘don’t deserve to play finals’ theory debunked after our loss to the kangas lol
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WHY IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR “DANGEROUS” TIGERS TO DO “DAMAGE” IN FINALS
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
8 August 2022
Can Richmond actually make an impact in this year’s finals series?
The Tigers have been spoken about as a team who might just be able to do some damage if they happen to make the top eight.
Damien Hardwick’s side managed to return to eighth spot with an impressive 38-point win over Port Adelaide in Adelaide on Saturday night.
The result came after the 10th-placed Western Bulldogs had been beaten by Fremantle and on the same night St Kilda, who were holding eighth, fell to Geelong.
With the Tigers now the keepers of their own destiny with two home and away fixtures remaining, the question was asked - Can they win the flag? (Provided they make the finals, of course).
Nathan Buckley and Garry Lyon discussed the Tigers on SEN Breakfast and what they may or may not be capable of.
Buckley believes the 2017, 2019 and 2020 premiers will make the eight given they play Hawthorn and Essendon in Round 22 and 23.
“I think of the balance of it now, they will get there,” Buckley said.
“Can they do any damage at all?”
While Lyon acknowledges how good the Tigers have been, he says injuries to Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin, as well as the ongoing absence of Dustin Martin, will make it difficult for them to seriously contend.
He says while there are good signs through the form of Shai Bolton and Tom Lynch, overall it will be an extremely tricky task for Richmond to make a serious dent in the finals.
“I think they’ve been one of the teams of the last half-century, but I think it’s going to be a challenge for them,” Lyon said.
“You lose Grimes from that group and if Vlastuin doesn’t play, Martin’s out of the side, of course it’s going to test you.
“It’s tested to the fact that they can keep coming up and Bolton is stepping into Dustin’s shoes. Whenever they need a lift he’s able to give them something.
“Tom Lynch the last few weeks reminds you of how good a player he is.
“Of course they’re a dangerous, dangerous floater, but can they win it? I think that the injuries might just take a toll.”
Buckley likes what he sees of the regeneration on the run which is occurring under Hardwick, citing the impact of lesser known players such as Ben Miller, Tyler Sonsie, Jack Ross and Noah Cumberland, among others.
“What about some of these names - Miller, Sonsie, Ross, who has been a fringe player for a while, Cumberland, who has come in of late,” Buckley added.
“They’ve got a lot of young players who are coming in and playing roles nearly above and beyond their time.”
Lyon said: “It’s going to hold them in great stead beyond this year.”
Buckley continued, highlighting the absence of Kane Lambert, who along with superstar Martin, have helped take Richmond to the next level across the last handful of seasons.
“I love what Richmond have been able to do this year. They rewired early,” he said further.
“Lambert and Martin, that one-two punch, was as important as any one-two punch over the last five years. To win their flags, those guys were as pivotal as any.
“They’ve done really well to be in this position. I still think their best footy actually really challenges.
“It’s just whether they can do it for four quarters consistently enough against the best opposition.”
Lyon added: “I think that’s absolutely fair but can they win four finals and take them to a premiership?”
Buckley: “I think that’s a stretch but can they win a final or two?”
Lyon: “Yeah of course they could, given their pedigree and the players that they will have available.
“It’s what makes the anticipation of this finals series so real.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/08/why-it-will-be-a-challenge-for-dangerous-tigers-to-do-damage-in-finals/
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whoever finishes higher gets a home final, unless its cats vrs a melbourne team :lol
Should we play an interstate team in the second week its also going to be interstate. Only if they finish higher than us, which they most likely will.
The rule is "home state Final" & Cats ground isn't big enough to accommodate big games ala Finals.
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So interstate final v Brisbane then potentially interstate again v Sydney
Get through that then Pre Lim v Geelong before Melbourne in GF
Win all the way would be one of the greatest premierships ever
I'll enjoy watching all those games back many times over summer
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If we get to a prelim, i reckon we’ll win it.
Caveat is we can’t lose more players and must have either Grimes or Vlas and we must have Dusty - even at 80% fit with Bolton’s improvement a huge threat inside our f50
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https://twitter.com/ForeverRichmond/status/1556566376373858306
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Driving behind a truck today with the number plate TG1413 (semi), so I concluded we will at least make it to a semi final in which we will kick 14.13.97. Just not sure if that's the winning score. Heard it here first. :shh
Go all in on this one. I'm not, but you should.
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AFL Power Rankings after Round 21
Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
10 August 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. Collingwood
5. Brisbane
6. Fremantle
7. RICHMOND (11-8-1, 115.8%)
Last week’s ranking: 7
That’s a draw and two wins from their past three games, with Tom Lynch and Dion Prestia returning to form, Shai Bolton firing and Noah Cumberland surprising. And with ‘winnable’ games to come, the Tigers are set to return to September this year. But while the Tigers have returned to their winning ways in recent weeks, they keep losing players along the way, with Nick Vlastuin joining Dylan Grimes and Dustin Martin on the injury list. Ultimately, the 2022 season could be remembered as a ‘what could have been’ campaign for the Tigers after losing so many close games. At the same time, you wouldn’t want to play Richmond in a final.
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Carlton
10. Port Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. St Kilda
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-21-fox-footy-ladder-analysis-highlights-top-eight-every-club-ranked-predictions/news-story/14f201429cb51381d9ba4ef5f2952720
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Health check on 10 teams’ finals chances... and the expert verdict on the contenders and pretenders
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
August 10th, 2022 2:15 pm
8. RICHMOND (11-8-1, 115.8%)
Past six games: Defeated West Coast Eagles by 35 points, lost to Gold Coast Suns by 2 points, lost to North Melbourne by 4 points, drew with Fremantle, defeated Brisbane Lions by 7 points, defeated Port Adelaide by 38 points.
Final two games: Hawthorn at the MCG, Essendon at the MCG
Injuries: Nick Vlastuin (ribs – test), Shane Edwards (general soreness – test), Thomson Dow (concussion – 1-2 weeks), Dustin Martin (hamstring – 2-3 weeks), Dylan Grimes (hamstring – 2-3 weeks)
Foxfooty.com.au analysis: Their injury list is small, but the issue is there’s a lot of important players on there, namely defenders Vlastuin and Grimes, as well as superstar Martin. Importantly, though, they’ve flipped the script on the close game narrative around them in the past couple of weeks. They narrowly lost to Sydney, Geelong, Gold Coast and even North Melbourne, while they drew with Fremantle. But a comeback win against Brisbane, as well as a professional victory over Port Adelaide last weekend, might give them timely belief ahead of, what appears now, a likely finals campaign.
Nick Dal Santo’s expert verdict (via Fox Footy’s AFL Tonight): “They executed really well against Port Adelaide. Yes they’ve lost some close games in the last month or so, but the way they controlled that game was really impressive away from home. There’s still a little bit of aura about them. It’s not what they once were a few years ago, but they still have the capabilities of just flicking that switch. Shai Bolton has been brilliant and opposition clubs need to put more time into him. I think from here the Tigers sneak into finals.”
Foxfooty.com.au’s The Run Home prediction: Finish 7th, face Brisbane in an elimination final
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-injury-list-ladder-predicted-finals-match-ups-whether-10-teams-are-pretenders-or-contenders/news-story/4be3fc7ef3a44a8e890a501a1ed7111d
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Just 1 win required from last 2 games to lock in top8 given tonight’s result.
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Yep, a bonus other results in the past couple of weeks have gone our way.
Just got to make sure now we turn up to play on Sunday to get the job done and don't think it's just going to happen.
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Is Geelong even beatable?
We have the stats to suggest how opposition clubs might be able to get it done.
https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1557862158775382016
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-mcguane-the-keys-to-success-for-every-finals-contender/news-story/e2880063fc80030b0801d7c97bad52d2
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If we don't take advantage of a physical rest by beating Hawthorn we have to take advantage of a mental one. Few teams just go bang bang bang bang and win 8+ games in a row to end the year. We need a stress-free game against Essendon to get out of this "every game is an elimination final" mentality which never works.
Let's do the work this week and take the vacation next week.
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Geelol would crap a brick if we lined up against them in a final. We were about 3 goals up in the last quarter and have ruined their season almost every year the last 5
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Bulldogs losing keeps the pressure on us, but it also keeps alive the prospect of Carlton tragically finishing ninth after spending all season in the 8. :rollin
#torn
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Dogs winning doesn't really affect us as long as we get that one more win :pray.
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Here comes September! :thumbsup :gotigers
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With a bit of luck, we can definitely do damage.
No team in the top 8 is flawless. It’s pretty even.
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Doubt any team would want to be playing us especially with Dusty due to return soon.
Need to keep everyone healthy and hungry but seriously having some kids in the team really helps keep them hungry.
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Sounds silly after winning three flags, but I reckon the team will want to win an elimination final after 2013-2015. Also, hearing Dimma saying "sometimes you don't choose the mountain; sometimes the mountain chooses you," I reckon he'll have a pretty cool message to get 'em up to do it all again a different way.
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Finals again fellas! You beauty! :gotigers
I reckon we will most likely play Melbourne or Brisbane.
There’s a chance that we play Pies too.
I’d be happy to take any of them.
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Finals again fellas! You beauty! :gotigers
I reckon we will most likely play Melbourne or Brisbane.
There’s a chance that we play Pies too.
I’d be happy to take any of them.
Yup assuming we win we’ll get the loser of Melbourne v lions or the pies if blues manage to beat them. Although I wouldn’t rule out the dockers losing to the giants away from home in which case we’d be playing them.
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Finals again fellas! You beauty! :gotigers
I reckon we will most likely play Melbourne or Brisbane.
There’s a chance that we play Pies too.
I’d be happy to take any of them.
Yup assuming we win we’ll get the loser of Melbourne v lions or the pies if blues manage to beat them. Although I wouldn’t rule out the dockers losing to the giants away from home in which case we’d be playing them.
Yep, assuming other results in the last round go as expected, our Elimination Final will be either against the loser of next Friday's game between Brisbane and Melbourne OR the Pies if Carlton beats them.
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The Run Home:
Ben Somerford
afl.com.au
14 August 2022
7. Richmond
50 points (12 wins, eight losses, one draw) 118.7 per cent
The Tigers have locked in a finals berth with three straight wins, having gone winless across three rounds prior to that. Richmond can finish no higher than seventh, but can drop to eighth if they lose to Essendon at the MCG on Saturday night and eighth-placed Carlton beats Collingwood on Sunday in round 23. The Tigers will be confident, having not lost to the Bombers since 2014, but they will still be without Dustin Martin and Dylan Grimes.
The run home
R23: Essendon @ MCG
Richmond's attacking weapons are scary
The Tigers may be sitting seventh on the ladder but they're second in the League for scoring overall. Sunday's rout of Hawthorn showcased their forward-line weapons, as they registered a 100-plus score for the third straight week. No side has scored more across the past three rounds than the Tigers. While Tom Lynch got the spotlight with an eight-goal haul, relative newcomers Noah Cumberland and Maurice Rioli jnr had two goals and nine score involvements each. Veteran Shane Edwards added two majors with three goal assists. The scary thing is Jack Riewoldt and Shai Bolton had quiet days and Dustin Martin is due back for the finals. They're going to be tough to stop in September
https://www.afl.com.au/news/817746/the-run-home-pies-hit-the-wall-huge-r23-on-the-cards
https://www.afl.com.au/news/817747/nine-things-we-learned-lions-find-their-finals-x-factor
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Last couple weeks dissapointing
BUT
We know we can do it, always say you need that touch of luck come finals and if we make it - Well we can beat anyone and there will be a lot of nervous teams
I'd take an elim against the Skunks in a heartbeat and if we could play the Kitty Cats 'Would make my day' they would crumble
Oh it aint over yet people NOT YET!!!!
Hi non believer’s
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No one will want to play Richmond in September
After weeks of uncertainty, Richmond has finally booked their September ticket.
While they’ve proven inconsistent in the back of the year (see losses to North Melbourne and Gold Coast), their best is almost as good as any and that was proven with their 128-67 win over Hawthorn on Sunday.
Although the Hawks sit 13th, their percentage of more than 90 proves they’re no easy beats, putting them away in that fashion could be a sign of things to come.
With the likes of Shai Bolton and Tom Lynch in career-best form, it wouldn’t shock many to see the Tigers beat anyone on their day in September, particularly if Dustin Martin comes back.
The Bulldogs proved you can win it from outside the top four in 2016, and this Richmond side is probably the only outfit you feel can repeat that history this time around.
There’s going to be an unlucky side that faces them in an elimination final.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/14/the-six-things-we-learned-from-round-22-1/
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Whateley now has Richmond number 2 in his seedings .
Kingy - has them 4th
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I’m certainly not confident, we have had some absolutely terrible games this year. If we play to oh ur absolute best we can win it all. Most importantly it’s great experience for the young blokes who should absolutely not get dropped no matter what.
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A scary flag ‘wildcard’ has emerged… and it could spell ‘heartbreak’ for three BIG contenders
Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
August 15th, 2022
Fox Footy’s First Crack team have dubbed Richmond a premiership “wildcard” this September amid fears of “heartbreak” for the team who finishes sixth and plays the Tigers in the first week of finals.
It comes ahead of an intriguing final round of the home and away season where either the loser of Melbourne and Brisbane’s blockbuster clash could tumble down to sixth place — unless Sydney, Collingwood or Fremantle fall to St Kilda, Carlton and GWS respectively.
There’s still much to play out — and this season has already been so very unpredictable — but the prospect of facing an in-form Richmond side in a knockout final at the MCG certainly looms as a massive danger game.
“They are coming with a rush the Tigers … I think there’s going to be heartbreak for whichever team finishes sixth at the end of this round,” Saints great Leigh Montagna said on First Crack.
“If it’s the Brisbane Lions finishing sixth, I don’t think they’ll beat the Tigers, and we know about their finals record (1-5 under Chris Fagan) and they are going to come under scrutiny.
“If Melbourne finish sixth the reigning champs are going to take on Richmond at the MCG. Richmond are in better form, playing better football, I’d be taking the Tigers.
“If it’s Collingwood and they happen to lose to Carlton and lose two on the trot and play Richmond at the MCG in an elimination final, it could spell the end of a fairytale that’s been an unbelievable ride.
“Richmond are a force … they are humming and coming along really nicely. You don’t want to play Richmond first week of finals, and for one of those three (teams), it’s going to spell heartbreak.”
It comes after the Tigers won their third-straight game in a 61-point demolition of Hawthorn on Sunday at the MCG behind a monster — and equal career-high — eight-goal haul from Tom Lynch.
Richmond is third on the form ladder since Round 7 and has only suffered four narrow losses since — against North Melbourne (by four points), Gold Coast (two points), Geelong (three points), Sydney (six points) as well as a draw with Fremantle.
Fox Footy commentator Anthony Hudson believes Damien Hardwick’s side has all the tools to emulate the Western Bulldogs’ 2016 heroics and win the flag from outside the top four — a feat only achieved once previously to that by the Adelaide Crows in 1998.
“I actually think they can (win the premiership) — not taking today because they played Hawthorn, who is probably tiring, but it just showed again that they have the weapons,” he said.
“They have the experience — they’ve won three flags, they know how to win. They know how to time their runs — 2018 they learned that the hard way how not to do it, since then they’ve shown how to build and build and build.
“They’ve shown their good enough against the good teams, they should’ve won more games than they have, and the weapons they have they’re added to.
“Lynch has hit career-best form, Jack Riewoldt and now Noah Cumberland has come in as the supporting forward. Shai Bolton is as dangerous as anyone in the competition, and Maurice Rioli, not just without the ball, but today we saw an emergence of him with the ball as well. Then there’s the wildcard — Dusty (if he returns from a hamstring injury).
“They are a massive wildcard heading into September.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-richmond-tigers-premiership-odds-wildcard-heartbreak-for-team-that-finishes-sixth-elimination-final-matchups-fixture-melbourne-demons-brisbane-lions-collingwood-magpies/news-story/260a8e39db15f1fa1e36e9c57a67472d
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Theyre all pooting themselves
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Settle down one game at a time. :rollin
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Since round 6: 10W-1D-4L. Losses have been by margins of 6, 3, 2 & 4. Have been inconsistent within games for sure but our overall form has been strong for a while now.
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As we learnt the hard way in 2018, for all sides there's no certainties and injuries to key players at the wrong time can have a big say and stuff up your year.
Breaking - Huge blow for Geelong.
Jeremy Cameron has suffered a new hamstring injury.
It’s the right side - same side he injured three times last year.
Club hopeful he’s OK for first final, given it’s ‘low-grade’.
But with his history will remain a big watch
https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1559099851249332224
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God a geelong straight sets exit would be a dream come true. But more importantly go tigers! I believe if this team can rally they can lift the cup again and nothing would make me happier than everyone having a sook about the tigers dynasty
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Funny isn't it, our haters have all written us off yet are worried about us. I know Cats fans that are pooting themselves at the thought of playing us.
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Whateley now has Richmond number 2 in his seedings .
Kingy - has them 4th
KING:
1. Geelong
“We always talk about who’s best is the best, it’s miles better than the rest.”
2. Sydney
“I think they’re the biggest threat to Geelong right now.
“Super healthy, playing a brilliant, basic brand of defensive footy that’s got flair once they win the ball and wildcards forward of centre.
“They’re right in the fight.”
3. Melbourne
“I’ve got Melbourne at three with not a lot of love and low confidence.
“Low confidence in my four and low confidence in my three.”
4. Richmond
“I don’t think they can win it because I think defensively the gaps are too big.
“But of the rest, they’re the most dangerous, their system is still very good when they play the turnover game.”
WHATELEY:
1. Geelong
“We’ve both for Geelong at one.”
2. Richmond
“This is my overreaction of the week.
“Straight to two. There’s something going on there.”
3. Sydney
“There was so much that made sense yesterday (Sunday).”
4. Melbourne
“Kudos for winning, I’m not all-in on Melbourne just at the moment.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/15/king-and-whateleys-top-4-seeds-after-round-22-2022/
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And, of course, those 4 losses & draw were only by a combined 15 points.
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Happy to make finals and enjoy the ride. I do look forward to see what kind of defensive pressure we apply in the elimination final more than anything.
That is thing that is going to make us impress in September, and its been pretty poor at times this year. Last weeks game was a good result, but hawks gave us nothing and i suspect if there isn't a change of coach this week then the same will apply.
MRJ and Dusty are our wild cards. I wonder if Stack has been ear marked as another.
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MRJ and Dusty are our wild cards. I wonder if Stack has been ear marked as another.
If we do it, it will definitely be more of a 2017 horses for courses team--guys like Townsend, Graham, even Butler. It's funny, but I reckon the team knows they're just a little bit past it now, and sometimes the most important thing to do is convince yourself that you're capable. That's why I think we need wildcards like you said. Miller, MRJ, Sonsie, Cumberland have mercifully come in right in the nick of time and restored a little belief to an older team that thought they didn't have it in them anymore. A couple more young wildcards and a returning superstar and we could just ride the wave. The belief just wasn't there with the Soldo (for Miller), Aarts (for MRJ), Castagna (for Cumberland) and Ross (for Sonsie) lineup. We're not afraid to make these decisions (Pickett 2019) so I hope they make them again.
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AFL 2022 watch Pure Footy: Richmond won’t win premiership, says David King
David King and Daniel Hoyne look at the latest trends in the AFL after round 22.
Richmond is on the charge, and fans of other finalists are worried. But a stats guru says there is one huge flaw that rules out another Tiger premiership.
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
August 16, 2022 - 3:31PM
The Tiger train is coming. But one serious flaw will prevent Richmond claiming a fourth premiership in six years, according to the stats gurus.
Richmond’s era looked over when it trailed Brisbane by 42 points in the second quarter in round 20. But after roaring back to steal victory, the Tigers have backed it up with convincing wins against Port Adelaide and Hawthorn to lock in a return to finals.
They are widely seen as the most dangerous challenger in the bottom half of the eight with a forward line boasting Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton and surprise packet Noah Cumberland.
But the club’s biggest issue all year has been at the other end of the ground, and is set to be exposed in September according to Champion Data analyst Daniel Hoyne and North Melbourne champion David King.
“It’s very easy in this industry to get sucked in to teams winning a couple of games and looking good, especially those teams that have had success in previous campaigns,” Hoyne said on Pure Footy, the weekly AFL analysis show exclusive to heraldsun.com.au.
He said Richmond’s attack was the fourth-best in the competition, but the Tigers ranked 13th without the footy and 12th for clearances – a very similar profile to Essendon last season and West Coast in 2019.
“They were both offensively strong ... but in terms of what they were doing without the footy, it was a concern – and week one of finals, they’re out. And Richmond is that team this year.
“What they are doing with the footy is the reason they are dangerous. In the first final if you’re not on and you have a bad day defensively, they will get through you and they will beat you because they are so dangerous.
“But if you’re switched on and you are there defensively, they give you a sniff going back the other way.
“Their defensive profile is something that they haven’t had in their successful finals campaigns. They will have to do it in a totally different way to how they did it from 2017-20.”
King was emphatic: “I’m telling you they’re not winning it because their defensive profile doesn’t stack up. I think they know that and they are embracing the shootout.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/pure-footy-david-king-and-daniel-hoyne-look-at-the-latest-trends-in-the-afl-after-round-22/news-story/b9141b81574130709a9e970fe41898e5
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King says that today but had us 4th in his seedings yesterday. a bit confusing...
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Richmond Tigers stalk premiership
Rohan Connolly
The Age
August 17 2022 - 2:22pm
Geelong might already have top spot wrapped up, but the other seven positions in the final eight are still up for grabs, 10 teams with at least a mathematical chance of playing finals.
There's a new level of evenness among the various flag contenders this season, too, for a couple of reasons.
One is that the pre-finals bye in place since 2016 has diluted the advantage the double chance the top four teams once had via an extra week's rest and recovery, the Western Bulldogs winning a flag from seventh in 2016, Greater Western Sydney reaching a grand final from sixth in 2019.
But the other factor, though, is a massive premiership wildcard specific to this season. And its name is Richmond.
The Tigers are again building a full head of steam towards a serious tilt at what would be a fourth AFL premiership in six seasons.
You wouldn't have thought it possible just three weeks ago when they had won only one of their past five games and were 10th on the ladder. But that was a very fine line which included a draw and three defeats by a combined nine points.
The second-half comeback against Brisbane which followed has woken the sleeping giant. And there wouldn't be a team in the top eight not now looking very anxiously over their shoulders at the yellow and black surge coming from Punt Road.
Richmond has upped the ante and is again playing to a level it hasn't reached arguably since taking out the 2020 flag.
In midfield, Dion Prestia is starring, skipper Trent Cotchin has got back to his best, and there's still a huge September wildcard in Dustin Martin to be added to the mix.
But things have changed most dramatically on the scoreboard. Richmond's famous fanatical forward half pressure is back to its best with the likes of Maurice Rioli pivotal to that improvement. So has been the introduction of the energetic Noah Cumberland. And Tom Lynch is in superb nick with 16 goals in the past three games.
You could have had considerable odds only a month or so ago about both Rioli and Cumberland becoming critical parts of the equation. But Cumberland has averaged 2.5 goals per game over a half-dozen appearances now.
And Rioli's influence on that famed Richmond pressure on the opponent has already become profound.
Prior to last week, Champion Data had Rioli leading the AFL for points created from turnovers forced by pressure acts from just a dozen games this season. The next four players on those rankings all had fewer points but from eight more games. Rioli's pressure has been that good.
The cumulative impact is that the Tigers are hitting the scoreboard a lot harder, having topped 100 points in each of the past three games after passing that mark just once in the previous seven games.
If this is ringing a few bells for people, it was a similar story late in Richmond's famous drought-breaking 2017.
That year, the Tigers' capacity to turn that pressure into tangible scoreboard returns went to a whole new level at precisely the right moment, topping the 100-point mark four times in their last five games, including the preliminary and grand finals, after having managed to do so only once in the preceding nine games.
Some new faces similarly injected some more spark into the line-up, Jacob Townsend, like Cumberland, becoming a surprising new source of goals, and Jack Graham, like Rioli now, helping Richmond ramp up the pressure.
Which isn't to suggest, of course, that 2022 will go the same way. The Tigers are doing it harder defensively these days, without the class and experience of the likes of David Astbury and Bachar Houli, and Dylan Grimes' hamstring issues haven't helped, the defensive general expected to miss the first week of finals at least.
But Richmond's renewed scoreboard potency has it sitting second on the rankings for points scored, behind only Brisbane. The Tigers never ranked any higher than fifth in any of those premiership years of 2017, 19 or 2020. Who's to say they can't climb the mountain for a fourth time a different way this time? They know what it takes. They're hitting form at exactly the right moment again.
And at the very least, those top teams when the final eight is sorted out once and for all come Sunday will have every reason to fear a very large presence looming just a little lower on the ladder.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7864370/richmond-tigers-stalk-premiership/
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THE CONCERNING STAT FOR RICHMOND HEADING INTO THE FINALS
By Hugh Fitzpatrick
SEN
17 August 2022
Richmond looms as the dark horse heading into the 2022 finals.
Their current form is frightening, winning their last three games by an average of six goals, playing a style of footy that is giving AFL fans flashbacks to the Richmond of 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 - years that saw them win three premierships.
Tom Lynch is playing like Wayne Carey, Dion Prestia looks fit and healthy, Shai Bolton is out of this world and Dustin Martin has been declared fit for the finals – it’s all coming together down at Punt Road.
Despite their form, there is one aspect of their game that is alarming, according to Champion Data analyst Daniel Hoyne.
Richmond has scored the second most points in the competition - but are ranked 13th without the footy - a stat that doesn’t bode well for sides in the finals.
“Daniel Hoyne from Champion Data says there’s one stat at the moment that is a little bit concerning if you’re a Richmond fan,” Tim Watson told SEN Breakfast.
“They’re ranked 13th in the competition without the footy, he says that profile with that particular stat doesn’t go well for you in the finals series.
“What does that mean to the layperson?”
Garry Lyon explained what that statistic means.
“Kingy (David King) and Hoyney are big on this one,” Lyon said.
“It’s the way they defend without the footy basically, conceding balls inside 50 and all that sort of stuff. It stacks up.
“I don’t study it as deeply as those guys do on that particular stat.
“They can score, that’s the big thing if you’re a Tiger fan. They can score.”
Damien Hardwick’s side sits ninth in the league for points conceded, but average 96.3 points per game including scores of 100+ in their past three outings.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/17/the-concerning-stat-for-richmond-heading-into-the-finals/
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Power Rankings after Round 22
Max Laughton
Foxsports
17 August 2022
1. Geelong
2. Sydney
3. Melbourne
4. Brisbane
5. Collingwood
6. RICHMOND (12-8-1, 118.7%)
Last week’s ranking: 7
As frequent readers of this column know, we’ve been Richmond believers for a while - the whole ‘being 9-8 with a draw after three winless weeks’ thing forced us to drop them a bit - and when you look at the big picture it’s not hard to see why opposition clubs might be frightened of them come September. The Tigers’ combined losing margin in all of their losses since Round 7 is 15 points. Throw in the draw against Freo, and they’re three goals from being undefeated since Anzac Day. So yeah, they’re pretty good. They’re also going to have to win four ‘away’ finals to win a flag - though at least a couple would be at the MCG - but if anyone is capable, it’s them.
7. Fremantle
8. Carlton
9. Western Bulldogs
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-22-analysis-highlights-ladder-top-eight-predictions-every-club-ranked/news-story/85af5ca8b508976a2361c395decedcce
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I do agree we need to tighten up defence wise especially come finals that was our blueprint keeping teams under 70 points.
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The AFL is starting to map out its full finals fixture, and one big change could make it easier for elimination finalists like Richmond to progress deep into September, reports @RalphyHeraldSun
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-finals-fixture-how-week-one-could-play-out/news-story/c9a980b2925e1ffc72c44d3afb26eb3b
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There is more to this story ... apparently.
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The AFL is starting to map out its full finals fixture, and one big change could make it easier for elimination finalists like Richmond to progress deep into September, reports @RalphyHeraldSun
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-finals-fixture-how-week-one-could-play-out/news-story/c9a980b2925e1ffc72c44d3afb26eb3b
What this all about as soon as we make it bang change from this corrupt organisation.
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Why it's Tiger Time once again
Dem Panopoulos
theroar.com.au
19 August 2022
It’s time to take Richmond more seriously.
Throughout the season, the club has been ticking along and given a stretch of games with almost laughable conclusions, they’ve spent periods as the punchline to many a joke.
In late May, we asked the simple question: are the Tigers any good?
In the 11 games since that point in time, they’ve had six wins, four losses and a draw. Take it back an extra month and you can add four wins to the tally.
There was genuine heartbreak in the Gold Coast game, while being beaten by the “new coach bounce” of North Melbourne was more expected than non-Richmond supporters may think, without reducing the level of embarrassment suffered.
Yet for all the headlines and mockery, Richmond’s worst result since Round 6 has been a six-point loss.
Understandably, at the time the question had been posed, many were curious as to the validity of the club’s four-game winning streak, given it had been over West Coast, Hawthorn, Essendon and Collingwood, which we now know was a good win.
Maybe it’s uncool to rate Richmond. Maybe there should always be a grain of salt taken when discussing their results.
Many don’t realise just how impressive the team’s record has been for the majority of the season, or perhaps they choose to ignore it due to a lack of perceived fixture difficulties.
In these last 11 games that we’re focusing on, the Tigers have played Sydney, Geelong, Brisbane, Fremantle and Carlton. Port Adelaide featured twice too as last year’s second-placed team, which would indicate the draw wasn’t designed to be a cakewalk for the team.
In essence, to answer the aforementioned question, yes the Tigers are pretty good.
Against really good opposition, they’ve played strong footy. In every one of their last 15 games, they’ve been in winnable positions.
During this time, they’ve had games missed from Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia, Dylan Grimes, Tom Lynch and Nick Vlastuin among others, the most important players to the team’s structure.
What got masked in that three-week block of winless ridiculousness was the fact the Tigers played better footy than their opponents for the majority of those games. It’s the tale of the season for Richmond and speaks volumes to putting more weight on the process of winning rather than the immediate result.
Since Round 11, the Tigers are averaging 95 points per game, including breaking the triple-figure barrier against Brisbane and Sydney, two teams that pride themselves on strong defence.
It truly has been peak Richmond, with the team seemingly firing on all cylinders.
Everything that made them so dangerous in years gone by has re-emerged, with a lot of young talent leading the way.
There’s speed and pressure all over the ground, there’s the desire to send the ball forward at all costs and there’s the never-say-die attitude – the Lions lead the Tigers by seven goals during the second quarter of their Round 20 clash.
Most importantly, though, there’s an evenness in the forward half of the field that suits the unpredictability the Tigers love to play with.
Lynch is the main target and has been rewarded with 55 goals in 17 matches. Jack Riewoldt is more of a secondary, tap-on type of player these days, roaming around nearly as a half-forward across the arc at times. He has 36 goals in 19 games.
Shai Bolton’s incredible season has continued, with 40.39 and 16 goal assists, while still being one of the league’s best centre clearance players.
But the real X-factor has been the emergence of Noah Cumberland, whose combination of goal smarts, strength and mobility has forced teams to put a strong defender on him. He kicked five goals on lauded defender Darcy Gardiner.
On the other side of the equation is the defence, where they’ve conceded 81.09 points per game during the same period of time.
Defensive shortcomings are the main thing that separates Richmond from becoming true contenders, or at least what will have many rule them out of being a genuine threat.
A quick glance at the points conceded column will tell you that the Tigers are trying to win in shootouts, by outscoring the opposition without much care for the defensive side of the ball.
Sure, letting the opposition get 81 points per game is hardly going to result in guaranteed wins, but again, Richmond’s very much a processs-driven team rather than one that overreacts, as those outside the club do.
On the season, they’ve conceded scores in 44.3 per cent of inside 50s which is really quite bad. It’s a worse rate than Hawthorn and Adelaide.
However since Round 11, they’ve tightened up slightly, with the percentage dropping to 42.88 per cent. It’s hardly revolutionary, but it’s an improvement.
It has coincided with the resurgence of Robbie Tarrant’s reading of the play, peeling off and helping to double-team at times, while the positional switch between Noah Balta and Ben Miller has looked more natural.
Given the absence of Grimes, one of the league’s best one-on-one defenders, this improvement should be given more attention.
The numbers are still average for the Tigers, yet in terms of firepower and tactical nous, no team is quite as dangerous offensively as Richmond with the exception of Craig McRae’s yellow-and-black inspired Collingwood.
On paper, all of this points towards a dangerous team, but maybe not one that can win it all.
Given the golden era wasn’t long ago, we can quickly compare the numbers.
For all of Richmond’s greatness, this is exactly how they were successful. Overwhelm the opposition with pressure, get the ball forward at all costs and outscore everyone.
In 2019, they conceded a score in 42.65 per cent of entries – sound familiar?
There’s also been a big misconception that Richmond’s tackling is what made them so successful but rather, it’s the pressure applied that has suffocated the opposition.
Between 2017 and 2020, they were ranked seventh, 14th, 11th and eighth for tackling in the league.
In 2019 and 2020, they were ranked 11th and 18th respectively for tackles inside 50.
Much has been made in recent times of Maurice Rioli Jnr’s incredible season, averaging over 10 points per game created through his pressure acts, yet the Tigers are ranked 17th and 15th respectively for tackles and those completed inside 50.
Other key indicators are lining up nicely.
They’re ranked first for metres gained, third for intercepts and marks inside 50 and fourth for contested marks. For those playing at home, they’ve also committed the fourth-most turnovers and guess which team lead that statistic in the four years they were the best team in the league?
But perhaps more interestingly, the tackling statistic that holds more weight for this team is how many times they get caught per game.
Because unlike different teams that concede the fewest in the league, who either don’t have enough of the ball to be caught, or play an uncontested, retentive style, the Tigers are at their best when they get the ball forward.
If you consider the mix of ranking highly for metres gained, marks inside 50 and contested marks with conceding the second-fewest tackles, you have the triple-Premiership mix that Richmond relied upon.
2021 was a disjointed effort between offence and defence, a down year where things didn’t flow as easily.
This season, all the key indicators are back up and Richmond finds themselves ranked highly in all the key statistics that brought them such great success.
More than anything, though, the Tiger aura is back.
Opposition fans aren’t wanting to play against them and coaches know that this team has started to fire on all cylinders.
And if you don’t believe that there’s a bit of déjà vu at play here, Trent Cotchin last month of football has seen him average 27 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 5.5 clearances, 5.3 tackles, 4.3 inside 50s and contribute five goal assists – not bad for a player written off by the entire football public.
While they’ve hovered on the fringes of the top eight for the majority of the season, the Tigers have rejuvenated their list with young talent getting plenty of game time and have recaptured the scintillatingly dangerous football that took them to the promised land.
It’s a team that hasn’t lost by more than a goal for four months and will look to bring back Dustin Martin and potentially Dylan Grimes into the team for finals.
A tumultuous three-week period brought great joy to opposition fans but look beyond the surface and maybe the team should’ve been taken more seriously earlier on.
The Tigers are back to their best and are a true Premiership contender in 2022.
Tiger time isn’t over yet.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/08/19/why-its-tiger-time-once-again/
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Richmond's attacking weapons are scary
The Tigers may be sitting seventh on the ladder but they're second in the League for scoring overall. Sunday's rout of Hawthorn showcased their forward-line weapons, as they registered a 100-plus score for the third straight week. No side has scored more across the past three rounds than the Tigers. While Tom Lynch got the spotlight with an eight-goal haul, relative newcomers Noah Cumberland and Maurice Rioli jnr had two goals and nine score involvements each. Veteran Shane Edwards added two majors with three goal assists. The scary thing is Jack Riewoldt and Shai Bolton had quiet days and Dustin Martin is due back for the finals. They're going to be tough to stop in September. - Ben Somerford
https://www.afl.com.au/news/817747/nine-things-we-learned-hungry-tigers-will-take-some-stopping
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Did they forget to update their writing from last week? Lol
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During their ascendency, Richmond were considered the best third quarter team in the league.
Their last four third quarters:
6 goals to 2
9 to 1
7 to 3
6 to 2
“Premiership quarter” indeed.
https://twitter.com/LastLaughBlog/status/1561233688955871233
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Carlton aren't home and hosed yet. They will beat GWS but then have Adelaide away, Brisbane away, Melbourne and Collingwood. Could conceivably lose all 4
Narrator: And so it came to pass.
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Carlton aren't home and hosed yet. They will beat GWS but then have Adelaide away, Brisbane away, Melbourne and Collingwood. Could conceivably lose all 4
Narrator: And so it came to pass.
One of modern times greatest travesty's
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Now they know how we felt watching Judd destroy us in that elimination final. A real shame.
all we need is for the pies the dirty pricks to get booted out, and us to take the flag from the cats and our decade is complete.
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In some dimension/universe there’s a Richmond vs Collingwood grand final where Richmond wins by a kick and it’s the best stuffing premiership in the Dimmasty
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RICHMOND’S “HUGE ASSET” AHEAD OF FINALS SERIES
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
22 August 2022
Richmond heads in to the 2022 finals series armed with an attacking arsenal that could do some damage, according to David King.
The Tigers enter the finals on the back of four straight wins in which they scored 100 points or more in each.
They finished the home and away season as the highest scoring team with the fourth best percentage, but had to settle for seventh position after dropping some close games.
As the Tigers prepare to take on the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba in an Elimination Final on Thursday week, King identified their ball movement, scoring power from possession and the possible return of superstar Dustin Martin as their greatest assets.
“The Tiges have mastered ball movement,” King said on SEN’s Whateley.
“I keep saying this - their system is the best system in the comp because it does allow them to score with that rapid, wing-line, brilliant handball game.
“They’ve got spark players forward of centre that are in some serious form. Then they add the youngster in (Noah) Cumberland in there and all of a sudden you go, ‘Wow, we’ve got another threat’.
“Martin coming back, another threat. He doesn’t have to come back in career-best form, he just has to come back and be another soldier forward of centre.
“They’re the number one team in the competition for any time they’ve got their hands on the ball in the last six weeks of footy, being able to turn a possession into a score anywhere on the ground.
“That’s Richmond - number one. That’s a huge asset.”
King outlined the areas in which the Tigers are number one, but did highlight the fact they are beaten without the ball which is not customary for a Damien Hardwick-coached side.
“They’re number one at moving the ball from defensive 50 to forward 50, number one when it goes inside 50 at covering that into a score. It’s a picket fence - one, one, one, one,” he added.
“It’s amazing what they’re doing with the ball, but without the ball you can get them.
“And this is unlike Richmond. We haven’t seen this before under Damien Hardwick. They’re rated bottom five or six in the competition without the footy.
“It’s going to rely a lot on their brilliance this campaign, but they are bloody brilliant.”
In good news for their in-form attack, the Tigers have confirmed the fitness of key forward Tom Lynch, who was subbed out in the final quarter of the weekend’s 66-point win over Essendon with a groin complaint.
Lynch has kicked 60 goals in 18 games this season, including 21 in his past four outings, four of which came against the Lions in a come-from-behind seven-point win in Round 20.
He will be fit to travel to Brisbane to take on the Lions at the Gabba.
It is the third final between the two clubs over the last four years with the head-to-head at 1-1.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/22/richmonds-huge-asset-ahead-of-finals-series/
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The key stat around Richmond’s scoring
Nathan Buckley
SEN
22 August 2022
“Don’t underestimate Richmond.
“There’s one stat that stacks up in regards to their capacity to score from turnover that is going to have a lot of sides worried going into September.
“The numbers that Damien Hardwick is talking about is controlling turnover. So it’s your balance of offence and defence and after Geelong and Sydney, Richmond are the next best team.
“Richmond scored 200 goals from turnover this year, that’s the highest number of goals scored from turnover. They’ve put together an offensive profile that’s going to worry a lot of sides.
“The last time a team kicked 200 goals from turnover was in 2018 and Richmond kicked 210.
“Richmond, the only team that’s kicked 200 (goals) off turnover, and that’s heading north as well in the last period of time.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/21/the-buck-stops-here-buckleys-five-takeaways-from-round-23/
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Power Rankings after H&A season
Max Laughton
Foxsports
23 August 2022
1. Geelong
2. Melbourne
3. Sydney
4. RICHMOND (13-8-1, 121.6%)
Last week’s ranking: 6
There's a difference between being the fourth-best team in it, as we think Richmond are, and being the fourth-most likely to win the flag. We’re fully on board the Tigers bandwagon - as we’ve mentioned, in their last 16 games their combined losing margin is 15 points, which is better than everyone bar Geelong (13 points). But a poor start to the season, those close losses and strong win-loss records for the teams above them mean the Tigers are having to try and win the flag from seventh. We know that can be done - the Bulldogs in 2016 were in a similar situation where their ladder position belied how good they were. But not only will the Tigers need to win four finals, potentially two of them interstate, but the way the finals bracket fell is much harder for them. We think Collingwood, Fremantle and the Bulldogs are the three weakest teams in the final eight - the Tigers can’t play the Dockers or Dogs until a Grand Final, and can’t play the Magpies until the prelim at best. Instead if everything goes as seeded, the Tigers’ path would Brisbane at the Gabba, Sydney at the SCG, Geelong at the MCG and Melbourne at the MCG. That’s so, so tough.
5. Brisbane
6. Collingwood
7. Fremantle
8. Carlton :snidegrin
9. Western Bulldogs
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-23-end-of-season-analysis-highlights-every-club-ranked-ladder/news-story/e0e1f9dea829524d65b900b084f24d8a
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To snare a fourth premiership in six years, Richmond will have to take the long way via an elimination final, but triple-premiership player Nankervis was confident the Tigers had the mettle.
"It's different but we've given ourselves a chance," Nankervis said.
"Really grateful to be playing footy at this time of year.
"It's so hard to get to the finals and give yourself a chance and I think any team within the eight is a real show, especially this year, with the evenness of the competition, which is great.
"It's different than being in the top four but we're still as much a chance as anyone."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/829750/young-tiger-suffers-injury-scare-at-training-dusty-poised-for-return).
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Premier’s H&A ladder position (since 2000 when current finals format began)
1st: 7 (Melbourne 2021, Hawthorn 2013, Collingwood 2010, Geelong 2007, West Coast 2006, Port Adelaide 2004, Essendon 2000)
2nd: 7 (West Coast 2018, Hawthorn 2014, Geelong 2011, Geelong 2009, Hawthorn 2008, Brisbane 2002, Brisbane 2001)
3rd: 7 (Richmond 2020, Richmond 2019, Richmond 2017, Hawthorn 2015, Sydney 2012, Sydney 2005, Brisbane 2003)
4th: 0
5th: 0
6th: 0
7th: 1 (Western Bulldogs 2016)
8th: 0
Also for Geelong - the last 3 clubs to finish top of the ladder two games clear failed to win the flag.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/luck-of-a-black-cat-the-problem-with-finishing-first-and-whos-really-flag-favourite/news-story/630209ddbc84b16db89d110d8843d518
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If we go all the way then Bachar will be presenting us with the Cup :thumbsup.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-grand-final-award-presenters-nathan-buckley-norm-smith-medal-bachar-houli-premiership-cup-ambassador-mcg/news-story/3d8073740bbbe88456d7b2a0424e9f8f
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If we go all the way then Bachar will be presenting us with the Cup :thumbsup.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-grand-final-award-presenters-nathan-buckley-norm-smith-medal-bachar-houli-premiership-cup-ambassador-mcg/news-story/3d8073740bbbe88456d7b2a0424e9f8f
Think this just means he’s the person who will bring the cup onto the field pre-game. The clubs usually pick the people who will present the cup to the winning captain/coach once the grand finalists have actually been determined. I guess there’d be nothing stopping the club from picking bachar to do that too though should we make it.
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Flag or bust? Finalists ranked 1-8 on pressure gauge, and their September pass mark
Catherine Healey and Max Laughton
Fox Sports
August 29th, 2022
4. RICHMOND
Pass mark: Make a preliminary final
There’s a big gap between third and fourth in these rankings, but father time forces Richmond above the rest - because is this it?
Coming into this year the hope at Tigerland was they could recover the form they shockingly lost in 2021 and return to contention, before the superstars who led them to three flags hang up the boots or simply depart.
They did just that, but they dropped a few games they shouldn’t have - both at the start of the season, and some tight ones later in the year - and it means the Tigers are going to have to win a flag from seventh.
If any team can do it, it’s them, and the Bulldogs in 2016 proved it’s possible.
But the path will be bloody tough. Brisbane away, despite the Lions-Demons game just over a week ago, is one of the trickiest tasks in footy - and remember Richmond lost their first-week final there in 2020.
Then it’d be either Melbourne or Sydney in a semi-final, potentially on the road at the SCG, and either flag favourites Geelong or team of destiny Collingwood in a massive preliminary final. And then of course the Grand Final itself.
The Tigers are good enough to win each of those games but winning all of them will be very tricky - you’re arguably looking at four straight 50-50s. Try flipping a coin right now to see if you get heads four times in a row.
So while it’s understandable if they don’t make a preliminary final from 7th, they are talented enough to get there - and they may not be this talented again for a while.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2022-pressure-gauge-teams-under-pump-in-finals-analysis-pass-marks-geelong-must-win-flag-news/news-story/e69e648bfa7b9c1e6d76997bb5bd2332
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If we go all the way then Bachar will be presenting us with the Cup :thumbsup.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-grand-final-award-presenters-nathan-buckley-norm-smith-medal-bachar-houli-premiership-cup-ambassador-mcg/news-story/3d8073740bbbe88456d7b2a0424e9f8f
Think this just means he’s the person who will bring the cup onto the field pre-game. The clubs usually pick the people who will present the cup to the winning captain/coach once the grand finalists have actually been determined. I guess there’d be nothing stopping the club from picking bachar to do that too though should we make it.
Sorry, yeah you're correct TK :). Hopefully we let Bachar do it.
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https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202022%20Media%20-%20Finals%20Series%20Launch&image_id=999576
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Ultimate finals form guide: Every club’s premiership profile rating
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
August 30th, 2022
RICHMOND (7th, 13-8-1, 121.6%)
Past five games:
4-0-1, 147.5% (Drew with Fremantle, defeated Brisbane Lions by 7 points, defeated Port Adelaide by 38 points, defeated Hawthorn by 61 points, defeated Essendon by 66 points)
Strength: Turnover game
The Richmond DNA is back. Not only were the Tigers the league’s best offensive team during the home and away season, they also ranked first for both average points from turnover (61.8 ) and average points from forward-half intercepts (34.5). They were the categories the Tigers ranked high in during their premiership run between 2017 and 2020. That means there isn’t one team that wants to face the Tigers this September.
Weakness: Stoppages
Richmond’s work at the coalface has never been its strong suit, but the team has managed to succeed by breaking even with its opposition and restricting rival teams’ ability to score from stoppages. That, however, hasn’t been the case to date in 2022 overall. The Tigers are ranked 15th for both clearance differential (-2.7) and average points against from stoppages (33.9), while they’re also 12th for contested possession differential (-2.5).
Player in hot form: Tom Lynch
One of the unluckiest players to miss out on the All-Australian side, Lynch looms as Richmond’s big match-winner this September. The 29-year-old has booted 21 goals from his past four games — including a haul of eight against the Hawks — while also averaging 17.0 disposals and 4.8 contested marks in the same timeframe. That led to a player ratings points average of 21.1 — well up from the 11.0 he averaged across the first 14 games he played.
Player who needs a lift: Jack Graham
A slight late-season form dip from the triple premiership Tiger, who’s had 11, 11, 19 and 11 disposals from his past four games respectively. But nothing to be too alarmed about.
Premiership profile rating: 7th of the 8 finalists
— Clearances: 12th
— Post-clearance contest: 10th
— Ball movement: 3rd
— Defending ball movement: 12th
Nick Riewoldt’s reason for optimism:
“They are moving the ball as well as they have. When we’ve spoken about Richmond in the past, it’s been on the back of their defensive attributes. it’s flipped around a little bit, so they’re not as strong as they were defensively, but with the footy in hand they’re much more potent. The Richmond forward line is complete with the attributes of the players: The craft of Riewoldt, the power of Lynch, the flair of Bolton and the pressure of Rioli — it’s a very well-balanced front half.”
Jonathan Brown’s reason for concern:
“We know it’s a fast deck at The Gabba, so centre bounce goals are pretty important and at a premium there. They’ll want to be a little bit better than those (clearance) numbers, but I think they’ve had a decent record there.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-ultimate-finals-form-guide-tips-predictions-sydney-swans-have-best-premiership-profile/news-story/9646b6fb05ec24f2627c93f23b69aa51
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DID THE LIONS AWAKEN THE BEST OF THE TIGERS' FORM?
By Vas Shipp
SEN
31 August 2022
Ex-Hawks and Lions star Luke Hodge believes it was Richmond’s Round 20 comeback win over Brisbane which kickstarted their hot run of form, as the two sides prepare to face off in the finals series at the Gabba on Thursday Night.
Brisbane led by as much as 42 points during the game at the MCG on July 31st, before the Tigers stormed home with a 10 goal to three second half.
Hodge pointed squarely to the game as the instigator for the scintillating form of Damien Hardwick’s team across the last month of the season.
“It’s a big game tomorrow night, this is a side that has got a big history against Richmond, and Richmond are in form. Let’s be honest, when they played in Round 20 it was the Lions who kicked them into a little bit of form that day,” Hodge told SEN's Pat and Heals.
“If you look prior to that Round 20 game, they lost to the Suns by two points, they lost to North by four points and they drew with Freo. Then all of a sudden they’re down by 42 points during the third quarter against the Lions.
“Since then they’ve beaten Port, beaten Hawthorn, beaten Essendon, so if you’re looking at confidence going into tomorrow night’s game, Richmond are a team full of confidence and the Lions after their performance against Melbourne are just a little bit shy I think.”
In contrast, the Lions have stumbled down the stretch in season 2022, a disappointing second-half of their campaign culminating in an embarrassing 58-point loss to Melbourne in the final round which cost them a top-four spot.
With all the momentum seemingly on the visitors' side, Hodge believes his former team can pull off the upset, provided there is a unified sense of belief within the locker room.
“It does sound all doom and gloom, but the Lions have to sit back, it’s that notion of belief, that the Lions believe that even after (the Demons loss) that they can bounce back and beat the Richmond football club (on) their home deck tomorrow night,” he said.
“I believe they’ll take a lot of confidence out of what they did in the first half against Richmond to get that 40 points up. They looked at what they did wrong against Richmond in the second half and how they got their scores, Shai Bolton got a bit free from stoppages, they’ll be ready for that.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/30/did-the-lions-awaken-the-best-of-the-tigers-form/
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Omen for September? ;D
The long term weather forecast for September is looking pretty damn good according to @abcnews 7pm Victoria.
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https://twitter.com/NedsDylan3Votes/status/1564555542705864709