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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 16, 2022, 06:12:41 PM
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Victoria bids to host 2026 Commonwealth Games in state's regions.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-commonwealth-games-2026-state-government-bid-to-host-event-in-regional-victoria/39ad9bb1-40bc-4736-903e-f5fb14a2d4e6
Ballarat is likely to be the home of the athletics events at the 2026 Commonwealth Games, which are expected to be held in March to avoid significant clashes with the AFL season.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/athletics/ballarat-likely-to-host-commonwealth-games-track-and-field-in-2026-20220216-p59wy3.html
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Considering Victoria is bidding against themselves and not one other place wants the games , this is an exciting moment lol
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Didn't you hear Damo there is a late player?
Tassie! They don't want to host the entire thing but they liked to be involved in hosting some events
Not sure being considered part of regional Victoria would go down well with some ;D
Very similar situation to Bris/Qld and the Olympics, they ended up being the only bid.
On a serious note don't ever recall a city being asked to bid by a Games Committee
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Victoria will host the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
Four regional hubs will be established in Geelong, Bendigo, Ballarat and Gippsland, each with an athletes’ village. Shepparton will also host events, and the MCG will host the opening ceremony to kick the games off in 2026.
Sport Proposed Venue
Aquatics (Swimming, Para Swimming & Diving) Geelong
Athletics & Para Athletics Ballarat
Badminton Gippsland
Boxing Ballarat
Beach Volleyball Geelong
Cricket T20 Geelong, Gippsland, Ballarat, Bendigo
Cycling Gippsland, Bendigo
Gymnastics Geelong
Hockey Geelong
Lawn Bowls & Para Lawn Bowls Bendigo
Netball Bendigo
Rugby Sevens Gippsland
Squash Bendigo
Table Tennis & Para Table Tennis Geelong
Triathlon & Para Triathlon Geelong
Weightlifting & Para Powerlifting Bendigo
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-to-host-2026-commonwealth-games-20220412-p5acsp.html
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Fantastic and I like the regional idea after the two years we've had.
Just hope they don't dump too much capital into projects that will just sit vacant afterwards. Really want the locals to be able to cash in!
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Victoria's 2026 Commonwealth Games closing ceremony will be held in Geelong at GMHBA stadium.
https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1586191094110224384
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Victoria's 2026 Commonwealth Games closing ceremony will be held in Geelong at GMHBA stadium.
https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1586191094110224384
Chris Scott will be happy
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LOL
Dan Andrews firstly spruiks winning rights to an event against no rival bidders
Then cancels 18 months later coz it will cost too much
One would think he would have planned things .. another great moment for Comrade Dan
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the usual cheerleaders wont have anything to say on this. Anyway how much is breaking this contract going to cost :shh
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the usual cheerleaders wont have anything to say on this. Anyway how much is breaking this contract going to cost :shh
Great job done by his advisors on what the costings would be
2.6bl when revised ballooning to 7bl lol 😂
Not even close!!
Also, what about all the money spent already .. I know a bloke that is currently building the gymnastics training facility in Ballarat .. that will obviously need to be finished and is now a wasted money pit
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the usual cheerleaders wont have anything to say on this. Anyway how much is breaking this contract going to cost :shh
:shh :shh
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Lmao - even The Age is getting stuck into 'em:
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/victoria-delivers-gold-medal-satire-but-not-a-commonwealth-games-20230718-p5dp45.html
:shh
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even his own parents would be getting stuck into him over the years. That's as if they want anything to do with him.
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Embarrassing
Poor Jerome is out of a job :rollin
Didn't want them originally, thought it was going to be a waste of money
It was going to be a waste of momey from the get go
At least they cancelled now rather going ahead for the sake of it
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Embarrassing
Poor Jerome is out of a job :rollin
Didn't want them originally, thought it was going to be a waste of money
It was going to be a waste of momey from the get go
At least they cancelled now rather going ahead for the sake of it
At least they cancelled now?
Have already spent a fortune. Absolute jokers.
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Typical of a labor government, spend, spend spend, until they get booted and then some poor liberal party has to fix it up
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Embarrassing
Poor Jerome is out of a job :rollin
Didn't want them originally, thought it was going to be a waste of money
It was going to be a waste of momey from the get go
At least they cancelled now rather going ahead for the sake of it
At least they cancelled now?
Have already spent a fortune. Absolute jokers.
It's a massive Labor(sic)/Andrews stuff up so naturally WP has to downplay it. :shh
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Embarrassing. Deserves a whack over this even in the long run the infrastructure still being built benefits regional Victoria. Reminds me of the Transport supremo Yes Minister episode. While today's decision is the correct one, this Comm Games was a ticking bomb that no one else wanted so you don't let your ego get in the way and say yes unless you can do it. You just make someone else's problem yours otherwise.
Not sure who else wants it now? The Comm Games is dying a slow death. Sad for the athletes who won't ever make an Olympics, but the Comm Games no longer has the prestige it once did. Just a relic of a long dead Pommie Empire that has become increasingly irrelevant. The world's best athletes attend the Olympics and that's what attracts the world's eyeballs and sponsor dollars. Aussies winning a zillion goal medals at the Comm Games is great for each individual winner but it's really just a regional sporting competition these days without the big boys and girls to compete against. It may keep going for a little while (Canada apparently is considering putting in a national bid for 2030 rather than just one city) but when the CGA has to chase and beg someone to host it, then the competition's days are numbered.
Typical of a labor government, spend, spend spend, until they get booted and then some poor liberal party has to fix it up
Yeah, that's why the previous federal LNP government left the country with close to a trillion dollar debt and nothing to show for it. Their comeuppance is coming too over the Robodebt corruption scandal.
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LMAO - yeah the debt that blew out because of the pandemic measures which the ALP opposition wanted the government to throw even more money at. :shh
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Comm Games
Airport Link that is going to end up same as comm games bid
Lockdowns
Good on you Comrade Dan
You must be so proud
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the cost of living in the last 6 weeks has been something else :shh
https://twitter.com/Raf_Epstein/status/1681172518143668225
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:lol :lol typical MT. If I didnt know any better i would think he and 65 are father and son :shh
Anyway il give my own version to MT's reply.
" I personally really dont gaf about the comm games comrade is a champion. He really didnt put us into that much debt like robbo potatohead did. If he did it was to save the world. I also hate the Monarchy so good riddance to the comm games. I love harry and meghan though so i feel for them during this time.
:gotigers
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It's a massive Labor(sic)/Andrews stuff up so naturally WP has to downplay it. :shh
Not down playing it all
Just don't give a rats about the Comm games and glad they've been cancelled. Should never have put our hand for them after whichever South African city it was that pulled out because they couldn't afford it
I'd flick the Grand Prix too just quietly another waste of government money ;D
It is embarrassing for the State and folks have a right to be angry.
But with the costs of so many projects already blown out it's a relief that they have canned this.
Simple facts are the State can't afford it.
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Yeah Danny Boy's done a bang up job *checks notes* saving money to pay for all his other stuff ups & blow outs :clapping
Geez no wonder you always run cover for '65...birds of a feather... :shh
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It's a massive Labor(sic)/Andrews stuff up so naturally WP has to downplay it. :shh
Not down playing it all
Just don't give a rats about the Comm games and glad they've been cancelled. Should never have put our hand for them after whichever South African city it was that pulled out because they couldn't afford it
I'd flick the Grand Prix too just quietly another waste of government money ;D
It is embarrassing for the State and folks have a right to be angry.
But with the costs so many projects already blown out it's a relief that they have canned this.
Simple facts are the State can't afford it.
I feel the same.
Was arrogant and ambitious putting the hand up to begin with.
I see no other states offering to host.
Not happy about the method but I'm glad it's not going ahead.
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Yeah Danny Boy's done a bang up job *checks notes* saving money to pay for all his other stuff ups & blow outs :clapping
Geez no wonder you always run cover for '65...birds of a feather... :shh
Seriously, have no idea what you are on about
But whatever
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Yeah Danny Boy's done a bang up job *checks notes* saving money to pay for all his other stuff ups & blow outs :clapping
Geez no wonder you always run cover for '65...birds of a feather... :shh
Seriously, have no idea what you are on about
But whatever
WP
Respect you a lot , but seriously ?
He’s on about the fact that there is a handful of “labor can do no wrong” on the forum
My own opinion - too late to be pulling out now
Too much already invested
And as I said at the start of this thread , it was a joke .. imbecile comrade Dan was proud of beating thin air to win the games
Now he’s shat the bed and embarrassed the state
The bloke is a joke
Don’t even start me on the truth of his fall down the stairs.. I would love to tell the truth here , but it would get taken down
Let me roll with filthy grub of a human who got belted accordingly
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:lol :lol typical MT. If I didnt know any better i would think he and 65 are father and son :shh
Anyway il give my own version to MT's reply.
" I personally really dont gaf about the comm games comrade is a champion. He really didnt put us into that much debt like robbo potatohead did. If he did it was to save the world. I also hate the Monarchy so good riddance to the comm games. I love harry and meghan though so i feel for them during this time.
:gotigers
For someone obsessed with me you sure say some clueless daft crap at times :lol. LOL @ bringing up Harry and Meghan. Why would give a stuff about any of the Windsors?! :huh3. They are all a pack of infighting narcissists irrelevant to modern Australia :yep. You need to stop getting your "news" from New Idea and a crybaby wedding photographer turned internet conspiracy cooker and grifter :shh.
As for the Comm Games, I was just stating a fact. Cities & countries fall over themselves bidding for the Olympics or the World Cup despite the IOC & FIFA being corrupt, yet the CGA had to beg for someone to host their little B-grade sports carnival.
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Can read you like a book MT :shh
https://www.afr.com/companies/sport/not-a-difficult-decision-andrews-scraps-commonwealth-games-20230718-p5dp3f
Great read. The most important thing is how badly other projects were costed. Something the chear leaders haven't mentioned once.. If only 6 weeks ago it was a 2 billion dollar exercise that is now 6 plus I wonder how many other projects have been thrown into chaos . Even Jerome and our Peggy were on this grainy train of close to a mil you would think.
If those that want to go down the robodebt path (rightly so) why wont they also bring up the Victorians governments waste? :shh :thumbsdown
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Word is it is nothing to do with the $ but more an anti monarchy move to appease a certain minority and to push the political correctness barrow
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WP
Respect you a lot , but seriously ?
Damo,
my whatever comment was only about the accusation that I "always run cover for 65". That was a cheap shot
That's it.
I will repeat the state has been embarrassed
What has happened yesterday is shambolic and a disgrace.
But the bigger disgrace was agreeing to take the games on in the first place.
It was stupid idea, a costly idea one that with everything else going on Victoria could never afford.
TBBH that's what I'm more peeved about, that they took them on when they couldn't afford it.
So forgive me if I glad they've been cancelled
I get that people hate Andrews with a passion but the facts still remain his government won an election less than 8 months ago in another landslide. Granted the result probably says more about the opposition than the government
I can only imagine the outcry on here if the games had gone ahead and in 12 months we get told about another government coat blow out, folks would be baying for more blood than they are now.
Financially this State is in precarious position so deciding to not waste billions on the irrelevant Comm games is the right call. It is how it has happened that is the issue. And the how is an embarrassment
Clear enough :huh
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Reminds me of when the libs committed money to the east-west link, trying to control the state from opposition knowing that they were about to get the ass.
Then complained that Labor wasted all the money lol.
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Dunno if many heard his press conference but what a shocker, full of arrogance and secrets.
Would be incredulous if he won another term in office
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Most repugnant, disgraceful and arrogant politician I've seen and the most blatantly corrupt state premier since JBP or even Askin....:shh
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Dunno if many heard his press conference but what a shocker, full of arrogance and secrets.
Would be incredulous if he won another term in office
Didn't see it.
Got a link?
I listen to ABC Radio a bit but otherwise avoid most news.
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Can read you like a book MT :shh
Yeah, that's why in your obsession you keep making wrong assumptions about me including my sex and which type of school I went to :rollin. You are so predictable. Don't say boo about LNP stuff ups but run on here frothing from the mouth as soon as it's a Labor stuff up. If hundreds of people were driven to suicide and allegedly up to 2000 died as a result of a Labor government policy illegally and corruptly attacking the most vulnerable in our society, you'd be posting every two mins about it. Yet, we didn't hear boo about the robodebt royal commission findings from you.
https://www.afr.com/companies/sport/not-a-difficult-decision-andrews-scraps-commonwealth-games-20230718-p5dp3f
Great read. The most important thing is how badly other projects were costed. Something the chear leaders haven't mentioned once.. If only 6 weeks ago it was a 2 billion dollar exercise that is now 6 plus I wonder how many other projects have been thrown into chaos . Even Jerome and our Peggy were on this grainy train of close to a mil you would think.
If those that want to go down the robodebt path (rightly so) why wont they also bring up the Victorians governments waste? :shh :thumbsdown
All projects around the world have been affected by the surge in inflation of the past 18 months. Victoria isn't alone. Having said here's my critique of each major project:
1. Comm Games - Embarrassing but right decision yesterday. The stupidity was agreeing to do it in the first place when no one else wanted it. Andrews has to wear this one. Ego got the better of him and he made someone else's problem his and the state's.
2. Westgate Tunnel - even without the massive PFAS delays, I don't support inner city tollroads as they don't solve congestion. Why I opposed the dud EWL. Rather had Metro 2 and improved PT to the western suburbs. Still got to appease the road lobby in this state sadly :P.
3. Metro Tunnel - at least a year ahead of schedule and possibly 18 months. Potentially completed by late next year if they keep going at this rate. Murdoch media reports are BS. The extra $3b costs reported were because additional and improved infrastructure was added to the original concept such as longer platforms along the metro lines for the longer MHCT high capacity trains (up to 9 cars long), high capacity signalling rather than the old block system so trains can automatically communicate their location inside the tunnel and run closer together (enables 2 min services), etc.
4. NE link - ring road is needed but hello costly retro-fitting in Melbourne! No forward planning from government nor corridors reserved for either rail or road over the previous 50-60 years = $19b fmd! All sides deserve blame given the multi-decade timeframe but it starts with Bolte.
5. Airport link - the problem has always been the government doesn't own/control the airport land and the road lobby (especially taxis) don't want the competition. The original design of the airport had set aside space for a future train station in the centre of the "square-ish bit" between Airport, Melbourne drives and Centre Road. That's why it's designed that way. Of course, the "car is god" mentality of the 70s saw that space taken up by a car park and now on top of that is a hotel. Now everything has to be retro-fitted and there's a barney between having an above ground (state/fed governments) and underground (Airport authority) station. My personal view is the airport should be part of a suburban line that continues on out north of Tullamarine so it has multiple usage but no one else is suggesting that. I think it's been put on the backburner for a year hoping by then this global inflation crisis is no more as correctly predicting and projecting costings for any project right now is futile. No guarantees with that given there's no end in sight in the conflict in Ukraine. 50 years and still waiting :boredom. Again blame on all sides and again starts with Bolte.
6. Level Xing removal program - ahead of schedule. Promised 50 by the end of the second term and delivered 65. Up to 70 now with another 40 planned or already under construction to go. Godsend in my area.
7. SRL - Fast cross-city transport between major suburbia hubs is needed but hello the need to retro-fit again = going to cost A LOT albeit spread over a generation. Not the reported media figure though which is just again more lazy/agenda driven media BS. The "$200b" figure comes from the Libs sending in their version of the SRL to the PBO which added an imaginary extra 30 years onto the construction timeframe (until 2084 instead of 2053) and included operating costs (which for the eastern section would commence in 2035). The PBO rightly costed this version being an independent body, but it doesn't make it any less made-up (I'm not blaming the PBO for doing their job). 2084 is over 60 years from now. All existing transport infrastructure and operations will need to be replaced and modernised to late 21st century standards by then but we don't lob it all together into one single figure, throw our hands up and not do it (of course we'll be all pushing up daisies by 2084 anyway).
ps. For the record, I don't care which side builds needed transport infrastructure. For instance, the NSW Libs deserve praise for getting on and building the NW Metro a decade ago. Sydney's rail network wasn't neglected and left to rot for decades from the late 1950s like Melbourne's was until more recent times. The only thing Melbourne did better back then than Sydney was keep its tram network.
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LMAO - yeah the debt that blew out because of the pandemic measures which the ALP opposition wanted the government to throw even more money at. :shh
The LNP doubled the debt before the pandemic before doubling it again :shh. The point being that the idea that the LNP are somehow better economc managers is a complete myth.
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LMAO - yeah the debt that blew out because of the pandemic measures which the ALP opposition wanted the government to throw even more money at. :shh
The LNP doubled the debt before the pandemic before doubling it again :shh. The point being that the idea that the LNP are somehow better economc managers is a complete myth.
It is.
At a federal level my 3yo could have made a surplus during the mining boom/Howards era.
They're largely all quite qualified and generally I reckon they would do as well or poorly as one another, just spending money on different projects to win or keep votes with certain groups.
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Dunno if many heard his press conference but what a shocker, full of arrogance and secrets.
Would be incredulous if he won another term in office
Didn't see it.
Got a link?
I listen to ABC Radio a bit but otherwise avoid most news.
Couldnt find one, maybe a snippet of it here
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/watch-live-daniel-andrews-tipped-to-scrap-victorias-2026-commonwealth-games/news-story/ef71f713c51eed4fd66938ec1d9c6fba
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the best thing to happen here is andrews is handballing it to the equally stupid but more incompetent Jacinta Allan. Lets see how long she lasts in the top job :lol :lol
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Can read you like a book MT :shh
Yeah, that's why in your obsession you keep making wrong assumptions about me including my sex and which type of school I went to :rollin. You are so predictable. Don't say boo about LNP stuff ups but run on here frothing from the mouth as soon as it's a Labor stuff up. If hundreds of people were driven to suicide and allegedly up to 2000 died as a result of a Labor government policy illegally and corruptly attacking the most vulnerable in our society, you'd be posting every two mins about it. Yet, we didn't hear boo about the robodebt royal commission findings from you.
https://www.afr.com/companies/sport/not-a-difficult-decision-andrews-scraps-commonwealth-games-20230718-p5dp3f
Great read. The most important thing is how badly other projects were costed. Something the chear leaders haven't mentioned once.. If only 6 weeks ago it was a 2 billion dollar exercise that is now 6 plus I wonder how many other projects have been thrown into chaos . Even Jerome and our Peggy were on this grainy train of close to a mil you would think.
If those that want to go down the robodebt path (rightly so) why wont they also bring up the Victorians governments waste? :shh :thumbsdown
All projects around the world have been affected by the surge in inflation of the past 18 months. Victoria isn't alone. Having said here's my critique of each major project:
1. Comm Games - Embarrassing but right decision yesterday. The stupidity was agreeing to do it in the first place when no one else wanted it. Andrews has to wear this one. Ego got the better of him and he made someone else's problem his and the state's.
2. Westgate Tunnel - even without the massive PFAS delays, I don't support inner city tollroads as they don't solve congestion. Why I opposed the dud EWL. Rather had Metro 2 and improved PT to the western suburbs. Still got to appease the road lobby in this state sadly :P.
3. Metro Tunnel - at least a year ahead of schedule and possibly 18 months. Potentially completed by late next year if they keep going at this rate. Murdoch media reports are BS. The extra $3b costs reported were because additional and improved infrastructure was added to the original concept such as longer platforms along the metro lines for the longer MHCT high capacity trains (up to 9 cars long), high capacity signalling rather than the old block system so trains can automatically communicate their location inside the tunnel and run closer together (enables 2 min services), etc.
4. NE link - ring road is needed but hello costly retro-fitting in Melbourne! No forward planning from government nor corridors reserved for either rail or road over the previous 50-60 years = $19b fmd! All sides deserve blame given the multi-decade timeframe but it starts with Bolte.
5. Airport link - the problem has always been the government doesn't own/control the airport land and the road lobby (especially taxis) don't want the competition. The original design of the airport had set aside space for a future train station in the centre of the "square-ish bit" between Airport, Melbourne drives and Centre Road. That's why it's designed that way. Of course, the "car is god" mentality of the 70s saw that space taken up by a car park and now on top of that is a hotel. Now everything has to be retro-fitted and there's a barney between having an above ground (state/fed governments) and underground (Airport authority) station. My personal view is the airport should be part of a suburban line that continues on out north of Tullamarine so it has multiple usage but no one else is suggesting that. I think it's been put on the backburner for a year hoping by then this global inflation crisis is no more as correctly predicting and projecting costings for any project right now is futile. No guarantees with that given there's no end in sight in the conflict in Ukraine. 50 years and still waiting :boredom. Again blame on all sides and again starts with Bolte.
6. Level Xing removal program - ahead of schedule. Promised 50 by the end of the second term and delivered 65. Up to 70 now with another 40 planned or already under construction to go. Godsend in my area.
7. SRL - Fast cross-city transport between major suburbia hubs is needed but hello the need to retro-fit again = going to cost A LOT albeit spread over a generation. Not the reported media figure though which is just again more lazy/agenda driven media BS. The "$200b" figure comes from the Libs sending in their version of the SRL to the PBO which added an imaginary extra 30 years onto the construction timeframe (until 2084 instead of 2053) and included operating costs (which for the eastern section would commence in 2035). The PBO rightly costed this version being an independent body, but it doesn't make it any less made-up (I'm not blaming the PBO for doing their job). 2084 is over 60 years from now. All existing transport infrastructure and operations will need to be replaced and modernised to late 21st century standards by then but we don't lob it all together into one single figure, throw our hands up and not do it (of course we'll be all pushing up daisies by 2084 anyway).
ps. For the record, I don't care which side builds needed transport infrastructure. For instance, the NSW Libs deserve praise for getting on and building the NW Metro a decade ago. Sydney's rail network wasn't neglected and left to rot for decades from the late 1950s like Melbourne's was until more recent times. The only thing Melbourne did better back then than Sydney was keep its tram network.
"if you only knew which school i went to" I believe was your comment back way when. Like a gaf, know or care so my reply was accurate.
Anyway of course you dont care about blowouts as its Victorian blowouts. Ask yourself why our debt is more than any other state?
The payout over this comm games fiasco. Again who cares right. The costing stuff up by Jacinta Allan no biggie right? If she costed this only a few months ago imagine the stuff ups on the projects you have mentioned. :shh
Also if every country faced inflationary issues then every country is in debt as well like ours , or are we alone riddled with debt post covid :shh
Robodebt is in the same category as every other stuff up ANDREWS has done IMO. I suspect the payout of robodebt may match the comm games payout on its own, let alone every other one of his stuff ups which includes ripping up that other billion dollar contract.
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Sorry Frankie, I'm confused
Are you saying Robodebt is Andrews' stuff up?
It was an illegal federal scheme overseen by former PM Scomo
Or have I read your comment wrong?
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I don't think that's what FJ meant. More a comment on the relative costs. Just ignore the suicides Robodebt caused.
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I don't think that's what FJ meant. More a comment on the relative costs. Just ignore the suicides Robodebt caused.
Here he is
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Can read you like a book MT :shh
Yeah, that's why in your obsession you keep making wrong assumptions about me including my sex and which type of school I went to :rollin. You are so predictable. Don't say boo about LNP stuff ups but run on here frothing from the mouth as soon as it's a Labor stuff up. If hundreds of people were driven to suicide and allegedly up to 2000 died as a result of a Labor government policy illegally and corruptly attacking the most vulnerable in our society, you'd be posting every two mins about it. Yet, we didn't hear boo about the robodebt royal commission findings from you.
https://www.afr.com/companies/sport/not-a-difficult-decision-andrews-scraps-commonwealth-games-20230718-p5dp3f
Great read. The most important thing is how badly other projects were costed. Something the chear leaders haven't mentioned once.. If only 6 weeks ago it was a 2 billion dollar exercise that is now 6 plus I wonder how many other projects have been thrown into chaos . Even Jerome and our Peggy were on this grainy train of close to a mil you would think.
If those that want to go down the robodebt path (rightly so) why wont they also bring up the Victorians governments waste? :shh :thumbsdown
All projects around the world have been affected by the surge in inflation of the past 18 months. Victoria isn't alone. Having said here's my critique of each major project:
1. Comm Games - Embarrassing but right decision yesterday. The stupidity was agreeing to do it in the first place when no one else wanted it. Andrews has to wear this one. Ego got the better of him and he made someone else's problem his and the state's.
2. Westgate Tunnel - even without the massive PFAS delays, I don't support inner city tollroads as they don't solve congestion. Why I opposed the dud EWL. Rather had Metro 2 and improved PT to the western suburbs. Still got to appease the road lobby in this state sadly :P.
3. Metro Tunnel - at least a year ahead of schedule and possibly 18 months. Potentially completed by late next year if they keep going at this rate. Murdoch media reports are BS. The extra $3b costs reported were because additional and improved infrastructure was added to the original concept such as longer platforms along the metro lines for the longer MHCT high capacity trains (up to 9 cars long), high capacity signalling rather than the old block system so trains can automatically communicate their location inside the tunnel and run closer together (enables 2 min services), etc.
4. NE link - ring road is needed but hello costly retro-fitting in Melbourne! No forward planning from government nor corridors reserved for either rail or road over the previous 50-60 years = $19b fmd! All sides deserve blame given the multi-decade timeframe but it starts with Bolte.
5. Airport link - the problem has always been the government doesn't own/control the airport land and the road lobby (especially taxis) don't want the competition. The original design of the airport had set aside space for a future train station in the centre of the "square-ish bit" between Airport, Melbourne drives and Centre Road. That's why it's designed that way. Of course, the "car is god" mentality of the 70s saw that space taken up by a car park and now on top of that is a hotel. Now everything has to be retro-fitted and there's a barney between having an above ground (state/fed governments) and underground (Airport authority) station. My personal view is the airport should be part of a suburban line that continues on out north of Tullamarine so it has multiple usage but no one else is suggesting that. I think it's been put on the backburner for a year hoping by then this global inflation crisis is no more as correctly predicting and projecting costings for any project right now is futile. No guarantees with that given there's no end in sight in the conflict in Ukraine. 50 years and still waiting :boredom. Again blame on all sides and again starts with Bolte.
6. Level Xing removal program - ahead of schedule. Promised 50 by the end of the second term and delivered 65. Up to 70 now with another 40 planned or already under construction to go. Godsend in my area.
7. SRL - Fast cross-city transport between major suburbia hubs is needed but hello the need to retro-fit again = going to cost A LOT albeit spread over a generation. Not the reported media figure though which is just again more lazy/agenda driven media BS. The "$200b" figure comes from the Libs sending in their version of the SRL to the PBO which added an imaginary extra 30 years onto the construction timeframe (until 2084 instead of 2053) and included operating costs (which for the eastern section would commence in 2035). The PBO rightly costed this version being an independent body, but it doesn't make it any less made-up (I'm not blaming the PBO for doing their job). 2084 is over 60 years from now. All existing transport infrastructure and operations will need to be replaced and modernised to late 21st century standards by then but we don't lob it all together into one single figure, throw our hands up and not do it (of course we'll be all pushing up daisies by 2084 anyway).
ps. For the record, I don't care which side builds needed transport infrastructure. For instance, the NSW Libs deserve praise for getting on and building the NW Metro a decade ago. Sydney's rail network wasn't neglected and left to rot for decades from the late 1950s like Melbourne's was until more recent times. The only thing Melbourne did better back then than Sydney was keep its tram network.
"if you only knew which school i went to" I believe was your comment back way when. Like a gaf, know or care so my reply was accurate.
Anyway of course you dont care about blowouts as its Victorian blowouts. Ask yourself why our debt is more than any other state?
Victoria is building far more infrastructure (especially transport) than any other state. We wouldn't have needed to if we hadn't needed to retrofit and play catch up after decades of neglect going back to the late 50s & 60s (starting with Bolte). The metro tunnel for instance would've been finished by now if the Baillieu/Napthine LNP govt hadn't reneged on their 2010 election promise to build it ::). When it finally started under the Andrews govt it became an urgent item to build as the existing city loop was reaching its capacity limits and the rail network would not be able to handle the demand by 2026.
I have no issue with debt being used to build transport infrastructure as it is ultimately needed and returns a far greater socio-economic benefit in the long run. Not building these projects will cost the city more in the long run as we've learnt the hard way. I'm not saying all cost overruns are justified but virtually every large scale major project has/had similar issues :-\. The NSW govt. is currently assessing the SW Metro project given the cost blowouts (under the previous govt). Going back in time, the West Gate Bridge took 10 years to build due to its poor structural planning/design and the tragic collapse two years into the build. With the Sydney Harbour Bridge construction costs, it took 56 years to pay off the debt. Future generations care more about the infrastructure being there for them than how much it cost at the time of construction. We are paying $$$ now because past generations and their govts failed to plan and especially build the required transport infrastructure for a 21st century Melbourne. Idiots who ripped up more transport infrastructure than they built blindly following 1960s vandals like Beeching in the UK or the tollroad-loving USA, rather than following the lead of European major cities.
The payout over this comm games fiasco. Again who cares right. The costing stuff up by Jacinta Allan no biggie right? If she costed this only a few months ago imagine the stuff ups on the projects you have mentioned. :shh
I've already said it was stupid and criticised Andrews' decision to sign up to it in the first place given it's not being delivered. The right decision was made in the end though to dump it.
Other states/provinces/countries around the world are dumping their Comm Games bids given the rising costs of hosting them. The Comm Games future and existence is seriously under question now.
Canadian province Alberta cancels bid for 2030 Commonwealth Games
The government of Alberta has pulled its support for a bid to host the 2030 Commonwealth Games due to rising costs.
Tourism and Sport Minister Joseph Schow said the bill was estimated at C$2.7bn (£1.5bn; US$2bn, A$3.1bn) - a burden "too high for the province to bear".
Alberta's withdrawal means there are currently no other firm bids to host the 2030 Games.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66402140
Also if every country faced inflationary issues then every country is in debt as well like ours , or are we alone riddled with debt post covid :shh
The previous LNP govt. doubled the debt before covid with nothing to show for it.
Robodebt is in the same category as every other stuff up ANDREWS has done IMO. I suspect the payout of robodebt may match the comm games payout on its own, let alone every other one of his stuff ups which includes ripping up that other billion dollar contract.
Wow! Robodebt was an illegal scheme that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people in our society based on false LNP govt. claims for purely political capital (aided by the Murdoch media and radio shockjocks). They drove 100s of these vulnerable people to suicide. Nothing by any previous govt. of either persuasion compares anywhere near to Robodebt. So much for its architects Morrison, Dutton, Roberts and co. claiming to be "Christians" btw! ::)