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Title: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on April 12, 2023, 04:39:37 PM
With Castagna retired and us having a fair few long-term injures, who should we target in the Midseason draft?

Can be a type or even name a state league player you like.

Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tiger Tragic on April 12, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
We could have two picks.

One for Castagna and, if Tarrant can't get himself going by mid season, he may pull the pin like the Griggs and Caddy's have done etc.

If so, I would be looking at a KPF and a mid.

I have good chills about Archie May. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: 1965 on April 12, 2023, 06:02:01 PM
Is Richo available?
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on April 12, 2023, 06:11:32 PM
Probably too late to get a kpf the horse has bolted.

Still the two most obvious list deficiency's  is a mature key forward and bigger mids. You only have to look at the magoos to see the dearth of afl listed mids.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Ricky on April 12, 2023, 09:25:52 PM
Archie May back training this week after wrist fracture and surgery. Would be good to see him play this week if available.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Ricky on April 12, 2023, 09:52:19 PM
Apologies for the dumb question.....is the mid-season draft on 4th May this year. The AFL website isn't exactly forthcoming on dates, and/or criteria. Is it correct that selections are based on ladder positioned at the draft date.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: JP Tiger on April 12, 2023, 10:00:41 PM
May the fourth huh?       ;D

Somebody call Obiwan ...     :thumbsup
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on April 12, 2023, 10:20:40 PM
I voted KPF.

Next option for me would be a mature ruck given that Nank is struggling, will be missing lots of footy, Ryan is still green and then there's basically nothing else other than the likes of Miller who should never be a full time ruck.

I think we are fine for inside mids - they just need time to work out how to play as a group IMO.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on April 13, 2023, 03:33:53 PM
Luckless ruckman Sam Naismith is in contention to earn a mid-season draft lifeline less than a year after he was delisted by Sydney.

The injury-riddled big man was restricted to just two senior games in five seasons after three anterior cruciate ligament reconstructions, but the 30-year has dominated in the VFL for Port Melbourne this year after “working his butt off”.

Putting his injury woes behind him, Naismith leads the competition for hit-outs (45 per game), hit-outs to advantage (13 per game) and is averaging 105 Champion Data ranking points across the first three matches.

It is understood four clubs have shown interest in the former Swan, who is viewed as a ready-made ruck replacement at 206cm and 108kg.

Collingwood and Richmond are among the clubs whose ruck stocks have been decimated, with 195cm forward Dan McStay leading the Magpies’ ruck division. Naismith recorded 66 hit-outs in round two up against Pies pre-season signing Oscar Steene.

The Tigers may be forced to turn to four-game tall Samson Ryan to lead them at stoppages in the short-term with Toby Nankervis and Ivan Soldo both sidelined.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/top-50-afl-draft-rankings-from-the-coates-league-after-round-3/news-story/6d04bf9fef9d1b94a28765ce90eb84bd
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: mightytiges on April 13, 2023, 10:02:22 PM
Apologies for the dumb question.....is the mid-season draft on 4th May this year. The AFL website isn't exactly forthcoming on dates, and/or criteria. Is it correct that selections are based on ladder positioned at the draft date.
Welcome to OER, Ricky. Yes, the MSD order is based on ladder positions at the time.

Last year it was after Round 11 (Wed, 1st June). So, if it's the same this year then it will on May 31st.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Ricky on April 13, 2023, 11:27:34 PM
Thank you Mightytiges
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 14, 2023, 09:28:51 PM
We need a mobile ruckman that can take a grab.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on April 18, 2023, 06:28:47 PM
CLUBS will not be able to replace a retired player at the AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft without a completed deed of release form, as the AFL tightens its inactive player rules.

The mid-season draft will be held on Wednesday, May 31, between rounds 11 and 12, with clubs again to make their selections via an online format and the draft to be conducted out of the AFL's Review Centre.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/907508/afl-tightens-inactive-player-rules-ahead-of-mid-season-draft

A season-ending ACL injury sustained to last year's first-round pick Darcy Jones will enable the Giants to create another list position, joining Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, Hawthorn, Richmond and the Western Bulldogs with mid-season vacancies so far.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/902207/tiger-wants-more-draft-bolter-rising-port-hopeful-on-young-duo
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2023, 03:12:00 PM
Gippsland Power forward Ryan Maric has thrust himself into the eyes of clubs as a potential mid-season rookie draft pick.

The 193cm forward nominated for last year's national draft but was overlooked, making him eligible for the mid-season intake on Wednesday, May 31.

And his performances have made him a player being assessed by clubs, with the polished kicker booting four goals in the opening round of the Coates Talent League and last weekend kicking three goals for the Power against Bendigo.

He has scored eight goals in three games in the under-18 competition and been a presence for Gippsland.

Eastern Ranges ruckman Clay Tucker and Claremont 21-year-old tall forward Jack Buller are among the other potential mid-season hopes to have leapt into contention to start the year.

– Callum Twomey

https://www.afl.com.au/news/907670/port-eye-new-deal-for-young-gun-clubs-watch-future-picks-crow-to-wait
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2023, 11:50:43 AM
SANFL FORWARD ON THE MSD RADAR

Noah Casalini emerging as a potential option for clubs


Casalini has since garnered a host of interest among clubs with free list spots, continuing an impressive run of form by winning the Bob Quinn Medal for best on ground in North Adelaide's Anzac Day victory over Norwood.

The 21-year-old Casalini, who is a 191cm marking forward, kicked six goals from 18 disposals and 10 marks in a dominant display to further enhance his credentials as a potential mid-season pick-up.

Casalini was a former Swans Academy player and also has ties with the Giants – who have multiple mid-year picks – having spent last season on their VFL list before crossing to North Adelaide over the summer.

Highlights: https://www.afl.com.au/video/912908/sanfl-showreel-r3-noah-casalini-highlights

Season-ending ACL injuries to Georgiades and Greater Western Sydney utility Adam Kennedy over the last fortnight means there are now nine list vacancies among eight clubs, with the Giants the only team with two free spots.

Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn all kept list spots open after last year's draft period, with GWS (Kennedy and Darcy Jones), Port Adelaide (Georgiades) and Richmond (Jason Castagna) also having vacancies.

– Riley Beveridge

https://www.afl.com.au/news/913030/flag-dee-in-talks-eagle-to-wait-sanfl-gun-on-draft-radar
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 27, 2023, 01:00:10 PM
SANFL FORWARD ON THE MSD RADAR

Noah Casalini emerging as a potential option for clubs


Casalini has since garnered a host of interest among clubs with free list spots, continuing an impressive run of form by winning the Bob Quinn Medal for best on ground in North Adelaide's Anzac Day victory over Norwood.

The 21-year-old Casalini, who is a 191cm marking forward, kicked six goals from 18 disposals and 10 marks in a dominant display to further enhance his credentials as a potential mid-season pick-up.

Casalini was a former Swans Academy player and also has ties with the Giants – who have multiple mid-year picks – having spent last season on their VFL list before crossing to North Adelaide over the summer.

Highlights: https://www.afl.com.au/video/912908/sanfl-showreel-r3-noah-casalini-highlights

Season-ending ACL injuries to Georgiades and Greater Western Sydney utility Adam Kennedy over the last fortnight means there are now nine list vacancies among eight clubs, with the Giants the only team with two free spots.

Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn all kept list spots open after last year's draft period, with GWS (Kennedy and Darcy Jones), Port Adelaide (Georgiades) and Richmond (Jason Castagna) also having vacancies.

– Riley Beveridge

https://www.afl.com.au/news/913030/flag-dee-in-talks-eagle-to-wait-sanfl-gun-on-draft-radar
Nothing wrong with another paisano at our great club.  :cheers
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2023, 01:07:57 PM
FORMER PIE, EX-SWAN IN MID-SEASON MIX

The Mid-Season Rookie Draft is fast approaching and there are a few interesting names in the mix.

May 31 is the date when those plying their trade in state leagues around the country will get their chance to be added to an AFL list.

Ryley Stoddart, who played six games for the Sydney Swans between 2018 and 2020, is averaging almost 30 touches per game in the VFL for Frankston across four games in 2023.

AFL Media’s Cal Twomey expects Stoddart to be on the radar of AFL clubs alongside Gippsland Power forward Ryan Maric and former Collingwood player Callum Brown, who is excelling with Box Hill in the VFL.

“I think it’s going to be an interesting mid-season group,” Twomey said on SEN Breakfast.

“We spoke about Ryan Maric a few weeks ago. He’s shaping as the potential number one pick, a tall forward from Gippsland.

“Ryley Stoddart has come through the system already for the Swans.

“He’s played some reasonable footy in the VFL so he’s a player that will get looked at.

“Another player to keep an eye on is Cal Brown.

“Josh Gabelich wrote today in Inside Trading that he’s got some interest while playing at Box Hill. The former Collingwood player of course. Nearly signed with Hawthorn as a pre-season pick too.

“There is a Young Guns game on the weekend. This is where Jai Culley and Massimo D’Ambrosio dominated last year and both got themselves drafted out of these Young Guns games.

“They’ll tell a bit of a story, but at this stage we’re expecting a smaller mid-season pool this year.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/04/former-pie-ex-swan-in-mid-season-mix-and-an-early-look-at-the-2023-draft/
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on May 04, 2023, 01:57:04 PM
I will attempt to place em in what i think is their best and primary role.
Key back - Tarrant, Balta, Gibcus, Young, Nyuon, Miller. Tarrant likely retirement and Young a battler, Nyuon probably gone as a defender and Miller they refuse to play there. Definate   need for another because of retirement and the lack of development progress with others in the role.. One type id like is a 200cm Harris Andrews type who can play on the real tall fwds and rucks.

Tall Back -  Grimes, Broad. Both in their 30's need at least one preferably two. Both good runners and interceptors.

Small/medium defender - Rioli, Short, Mansell, Smith, Banks, Brown, Vlastuin. Have invested good picks on Brown and Banks.

Wingers - Pickett, McIntosh, Ralphsmith. Really need a SKILLED hard running mid who makes good decisons and uses the ball well.

Midfielders - Cotchin, Prestia, Martin, Ross, Dow. Taranto, Hopper, Bolton, Sonsie, Graham, Green.
Imo its dire. It is not unrealistic to say the first 5 could be gone in the next few seasons. From that you can see why Taranto was a must get and why Hopper is a good fit though we paid too much and should have gone the other route with him.

Ruckmen - Nankervis, Soldo, Colina, Ryan. Reckon we lack a ruckman who can hold his own against all comers in the ruck contest and give us an aerial marking presence around the ground. Ryan is young and shows some promise the rest all have short comings.

Small /med forward - MRJ, Clarke, Cumberland, Bolton, Campbell. Notice there are only small fwds or Tall/kp forwards no mediums. Bolton well what is he primarily a forward or primarily a mid.

Tall/kpf - Lynch, Riewoldt, Bradtke, Bauer. Again dire Bauer is being played in defense and Riewolt will retire. Bradtke we dont know about and Lynchy is no spring chicken.

Hmm the question should be what do we need the answer to that is almost everything.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2023, 12:23:19 PM
MULTIPLE CLUBS INTERESTED IN EX-CAT NARKLE / NAISMITH ON MID-SEASON RADAR

Andrew Slevison
SEN
5 May 2023


Former Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle is the subject of interest from multiple AFL clubs ahead of the 2023 Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

The 25-year-old trained with Richmond over pre-season and was close to landing a spot on the list during the Supplementary Selection Period (SSP), but the Tigers opted to go with 21-year-old forward Kaelan Bradtke instead.

Narkle is playing well for Essendon in the VFL so far in 2023, averaging 18 disposals and five tackles, and is on the radar of a number of clubs including West Coast, the Western Bulldogs, the Tigers and the Bombers.

AFL Media’s Josh Gabelich says the Tigers were keen to add the Western Australian native following the retirement of Jason Castagna in February, but the AFL did not allow the list addition.

“If Richmond got their way with the AFL he would be on Richmond’s list already,” Gabelich said on SEN’s Sportsday.

“Jason Castagna retired three or four days after the SSP deadline closed and they pitched to the AFL to get Quinton Narkle for that spot. They only had one spot and went with Kaelan Bradtke instead of Narkle, then Castagna retired.

“He’s been playing for Essendon’s VFL side and there is interest around the competition.

“West Coast is a club that has monitored him, the Bulldogs, Richmond, Essendon, so there’s every chance that Quinton Narkle might be back in the system by the end of this month.”

.....

Another player who has been spoken about frequently in mid-season draft circles is ruckman Sam Naismith.

The 30-game former Sydney Swan, who has dealt with several ACL injuries over the course of his career, is starring for Port Melbourne this year and is a possible target for the likes of Collingwood and Richmond, according to Gabelich.

“Sam Naismith is the other one,” he said of the 30-year-old.

“I’d expect Sam Naismith to be recruited mid-year. Collingwood have shown some interest.

“I know Richmond are looking at ruckmen at the moment so whether they go for a 30-year-old in Naismith, or someone like Clay Tucker, who is 19. Time will tell.

“Naismith was a very popular figure in Sydney. They didn’t want let him go. You can understand why they needed to in the end.

“But he’s bounced back after two years out of the game and had a really strong start to the year at Port Melbourne.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/04/multiple-clubs-interested-in-ex-cat-as-delisted-trio-appear-on-mid-season/
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 09, 2023, 05:05:42 PM
Draft rankings: Every SuperCoach score from Young Guns clash

Which mid-season draft prospects caught the eye of AFL recruiters on Sunday in the Young Guns clash?

HeraldSun
9 May 2023


The Young Guns side featured a host of AFL mid-season draft prospects, looking to push their cases for selection under the watchful eyes of recruiters from across the competition.

Jedd Longmire was impressive through the midfield across the day with 23 disposals, five clearances, five tackles and seven inside-50s.

Longmire, who stands 188cm tall, has been playing for Collingwood’s VFL side this year after being overlooked in his top-age draft year in 2022.

In the forward line, Dandenong Stingrays 19-year-old Ziggy Toledo-Glasman was a threat as he kicked three second-half goals among 13 disposals and six marks.

Inside midfielder Mitch Szybkowski (20 disposals, three clearances) worked hard, as did another player who was considered unlucky to miss out on selection in last year’s drafts in Luke Teal (18 disposals).

Forward Ryan Maric (nine disposals, 1.3) and ruckman Clay Tucker (seven disposals, 13 hit-outs) both had some good moments after attracting mid-season draft interest in recent weeks.

Maric worked hard up the ground as a leading forward and won some nice ground balls for a player who stands 193cm tall.

The Young Guns will play a second match against Vic Country this Sunday, ahead of the mid-season draft on May 31.

KFC SUPERCOACH RANKING POINTS

YOUNG GUNS


115 – Jedd Longmire

111 – Ziggy Toledo-Glasman

92 – Tom Bower (Richmond VFL)

90 – Mitch Szybkowski

90 – Paddy Cross

90 – Hamish Pierson

85 – Nicholas Newton

83 – Beau Tedcastle (Richmond VFL)

83 – Jack Cleaver

79 – Luke Teal (Richmond VFL)

70 – Archie Sinnott

62 – Ryan Maric

60 – Jovan Petric

58 – Tom Stern

54 – Archer May (Richmond VFL)

50 – Rye Penny

50 – Levi Young

44 – Clay Tucker

43 – Ethan Stanley

37 – Michael Kiraly

24 – Mitch Dodos

20 – William Elliott

19 – Flynn Riley

16 – Joziah Nannup

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-midseason-draft-top-performers-stats-from-young-guns-v-vic-metro-exhibition-match/news-story/04725c72c87602a29abcd2f401812cca
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on May 09, 2023, 08:35:44 PM
Key position player for me. Preferably forward.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 10, 2023, 03:49:21 PM
VFL’s best prospects for the AFL’s mid-season draft, featuring young guns and mature-agers

The brother of a young Saint, a former Swan and a roughie from Richmond are among the VFL’s top mid-season draft hopes, writes PAUL AMY.

Paul Amy
HeraldSun
May 10, 2023


The AFL’s mid-season draft is three weeks away and recruiters are running an eye over the state-league players capable of joining lists.

Here are some hopefuls from the VFL.

Mutaz El Nour, Richmond

The tall defender was considered a mid-season draft hope last year as a Northern Bullant and was disappointed when he was overlooked.

But he’s presented again as a Tiger, negating with hard spoils or creating with his intercept marking, and there’s a touch of class to whatever he does.

James Trezise, Richmond

The Tigers have latched on to a good prospect in 21-year-old Trezise, who featured in West Gippsland club Tooradin-Dalmore’s premiership last season alongside former AFL Magpies Brent Macaffer and Adam Oxley.

“Needs to be on an AFL list,’’ Oxley declared on social media last month after Tigers VFL coach Steve Morris called the 20-year-old a “super exciting player’’.

Trezise is 188cm and versatile enough to play any position on the ground; he’s even done some ruck work for the Tigers this season.


Jye Chalcraft, Geelong

The 22-year-old won the Cats’ VFL best and fairest in 2022 as an inside midfielder and there’s a good chance he’s leading the count this year.

Coach Mark Corrigan has used Chalcraft at half forward at times “just to try to add another string to his bow and I guess add to the appeal from a draftable point of view’’.

“He’s a beautiful ball-user, he finishes his work, he’s clean, he’s tough and he’s got enough power, his tank is good enough … he’s a very good player,’’ Corrigan declares. “If you put him in a full-time program you’ll see him go to another level.’’

The midfielder is from Shepparton United, went through the Murray Bushrangers and became a VFL Cat in 2021.

Aaron Clarke, Coburg

There aren’t many tall forwards kicking around the VFL. The Lions have one in 23-year-old Clarke, 195cm and 100kg, who can take a contested mark and is a reliable kick.

He has a chance to see how he stacks up against Northern Bullant Brandon Ryan in this week’s Battle of Bell Street at Coburg City Oval.

Mitch Cox, Williamstown

The powerful right-footer spent last year on Brisbane’s list as a selection in the pre-season supplemental period.

He hasn’t quite shown his best for the Towners as he makes the transition back to part-time footballer, but he’s a dynamic player and started May the right way, having 23 touches and kicking a goal against Collingwood.

Felix Flockhart, Port Melbourne

There were quiet raps on the young ruckman after his late rise at the Sandringham Dragons, and he’s back in the thoughts of clubs now that he’s overcome injuries (groin last year, ankle in the 2023 pre-season) and served as Sam Naismith’s back-up.

His athleticism is apparent with his ability to play forward and his skill at ground level.

“He’s turning himself into a competitive footballer,’’ Borough coach Adam Skrobalak says.

Marcus Herbert, Geelong

The Cats have a high opinion of the former Greater Western Victoria Rebel, who sat out a few games with concussion and has impressed since his return to the half back line.

“I look at him and I think he’s got attributes that could go to another level,’’ Geelong coach Mark Corrigan says. “Beautiful ball user, really clean, he changes the game when he gets the ball in his hands.

“But he also defends really well. He’s not just a purely offensive-minded player. He’s really good in the contest, he finds his way out of traffic quickly and he dilutes the pressure situations for us.’’

Herbert, 20, joined Geelong VFL in 2021.

Marty Hore, Williamstown

It’s believed two AFL clubs have contacted Willy about the 14-game former Demon.

Hore, 27, joined the Seagulls this year from North Melbourne VFL and has averaged 21.7 disposals across six games.

Ben Jepson, Coburg

The Lions knew they were getting a good player when they recruited Jepson from Old Carey three years ago.

At 21 and with more confidence, his football has taken off this season; he’s the best decision-maker and kick in the Coburg team.

Jepson is averaging 23 possessions across his first six matches, boosted by 34 and 30-disposal hauls in his past two outings.

“His last fortnight has been awesome, and hopefully he can carry that all the way into the mid-season draft and be a realistic chance,’’ Coburg coach Jamie Cassidy-McNamara says.

Sam Lowson, North Melbourne

Roos coach Tom Lynch calls the small forward “the most dynamic player in the VFL’’.

Touted as the No.1 mid-season pick in 2019, only to pick up an injury before the draft, Lowson has kicked 16.10 for the Roos this season since crossing from Coburg.

Trent Mynott, Frankston

Few VFL midfielders are going as well as Frankston’s co-captain, who led his team to its first victory of the season with four goals and 23 possessions against Sandringham in Round 4.

Mynott was an Essendon rookie in 2018-19 but he’s still only 23 and there are Dolphins officials who will tell you he’s their most influential and important player.

Sam Naismith, Port Melbourne

Clubs needing to bolster their ruck divisions will look at the former Sydney 30-gamer, who has proved his fitness this year as a dominant big man in the VFL.

He’s averaging 43.2 hit-outs and 15.7 disposals per game, and his leadership has been exemplary.

“He’s been really solid in his performances. His ruck work has been outstanding and he’s building his around-the-ground game,’’ Borough coach Adam Skrobalak says.

“As a person and player, his buy-in at our club has been exceptional. He’s getting through week to week and he’s covering a lot of ground and he’s crashing and bashing. He’s doing all the things I would think an AFL club would want to see.’’

Kai Owens, Frankston

The 23-year-old is the older brother of fast-rising Saint Mitch, and his move into the midfield this season has been the making of him.

Previously a forward lending an occasional hand in the ruck, Owens (192cm) has flourished as an onballer alongside Will Fordham and Trent Mynott, averaging 24 disposals and seven tackles.

“Kai’s got that bit of swerve and curve about him that comes from his basketball background and he’s also got hops – he can really jump. He’s in good nick because his game’s in good shape and he’s bubbling along off some of the buzz around his brother,’’ Dolphins coach Danny Ryan told CODE Sports last week.

Fraser Rosman, Port Melbourne

Drafted during the Covid period and delisted after two years at Melbourne, the athletic and sure-handed Rosman is relishing his move to Port Melbourne.

With his spring and speed, the 194cm defender is capable of playing on opponents of all shapes and sizes.

Brandon Ryan, Northern Bullants

No VFL player has risen as quickly this year as 25-year-old Ryan, a 200cm forward who joined the Ants from Essendon District league club Maribyrnong Park.

The strong-marking left-footer caught the eye in the state-alone practice-match carnival in Craigieburn – “Who is No 12 for Bullants? He’s not on the team sheet?’’ a recruiter asked on the day – and has since kicked 17 goals from six matches, including five against Sydney.

Ryan is raw but has a lot of natural ability.

Ryley Stoddart, Frankston

In his second year with the Dolphins, the 23-year-old former Sydney Swan will be some chance for a second AFL listing if he maintains his slashing start to the season.

His left-foot kicking has been on show from half back, spearing Frankston forward, and he’s displayed plenty of dash and aggression too.

He had 37 touches against Port Melbourne in round five and is averaging 29 disposals from five matches.

Shaun Mannagh, Werribee

The dynamic Mannagh hurtled into the headlines with his round three performance for Werribee, when he stacked up 40 possessions and booted four goals against Southport.

“He’s a matchwinner. He’s special,’’ Sharks coach Steve Daniels declared after the game.

The 25-year-old had 31 touches against Essendon last Sunday and is averaging 27.6 disposals per outing as he pushes for the next level.

“He’s a jet,’’ a VFL coach says of the former Murray Bushranger.

Oscar McDonald, Williamstown

At 27, McDonald appears set to join a third AFL club, with talk around that Sydney will seek to strengthen its defence with the former Demon and Blue.

His performances and professionalism have been everything Willy expected of him, and they’re resigned to going into the second half of the season without their No.1 backman.

Tom Phillips, Essendon

The former Magpie and Hawk is building towards his best after recovering from a minor knee injury. The left-footer had 20 touches on a wing in the round seven loss to Werribee.

“He’s good enough to play AFL again,’’ Bombers coach Leigh Tudor says. “He’s still really determined and doing everything right. He’s still got that belief.’’

Jack Sexton, Southport

Sharks coach Steve Daniel says he’s taken calls from AFL clubs about his small forward, who joined the club this year after a stint with Richmond VFL.

“He’s quick, he’s tough, his tackle-pressure is through the roof, he uses the ball really well and he’s quite smart,’’ Daniel says of the 178cm, who came out of Finley Cats juniors and took some star turns for Yarrawonga last year in the strong Ovens and Murray league.

Ethan Stanley, Box Hill Hawks

The 188cm, 81kg Stanley has been a surprise package this year for the Hawks.

Recruited from local club Frankston YCW, where he played some senior games last year but mostly in the Under 19s, he has made four appearances as a wing and flanker.

He also turned out in last Sunday’s Young Guns game at Sandringham, performing handily in tough conditions.

“We’ve been rapt with him,’’ says Box Hill Hawks coach Zane Littlejohn.

“There was no expectation on him when he came here – he’s never been a pathways kid, just played local footy with his local club – and he’s been a breath of fresh air, I guess.

“He’s excited, he wants to learn, he’s hungry. He’s played four games as the 23rd player, but we’re arguably missing him and he’s going to be a big chance to play regardless of the 23rd. He can play a variety of roles – wing, half back, half forward, inside – he’s got athleticism and running power, and he’s a beautiful user of the footy.’’

Lachie Sullivan, Footscray Bulldogs

The Dogs’ VFL captain is one of the league’s most consistent players, rarely leaving the ground without having handled the ball 25 times. He won the Dogs’ best and fairest and was in the VFL team of the year in 2022.

Unheralded but not to be underestimated, Sullivan might appeal to a club keen to add another number to its midfield.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/state-leagues/vfls-best-prospects-for-the-afls-midseason-draft-featuring-young-guns-and-matureagers/news-story/98b5c9caafeff55d0b2db7397468cb59
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 11, 2023, 11:29:35 AM
Overlooked in his draft year, Claremont key forward Jack Buller set to work on his fitness and is now a leading contender for this year's Mid-Season Draft.

Buller has emerged as a leading option for AFL clubs on the hunt for a key forward this year, with several Victorian clubs showing strong interest in the 99kg big man, who models his game on powerful Port Adelaide forward/ruck Charlie Dixon.

The Claremont forward, who will return from a minor leg niggle this week, surfaced as an improved player in round one for the Tigers with 10 marks and 1.4 before shooting to prominence with AFL recruiters the following week with the most complete performance of his career, dominating South Fremantle with 22 disposals, 14 marks, and four goals.

The key has been his improved fitness after working with Australian Commonwealth Games runner Matt Ramsden during the off-season, having realised last year how much better he could be when he got to more contests.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/922439/penny-drops-for-wafl-mid-season-hope-after-draft-year-unravelled-


Round 2 WAFL highlights: https://www.afl.com.au/video/905340/wafl-showreel-r2-jack-buller-highlights
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 16, 2023, 02:23:58 PM
TOP MID-SEASON PROSPECTS

Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
May 16th, 2023


A host of Victoria’s top mid-season draft prospects have had a chance to push their cases across the past fortnight in the 2023 Young Guns Series.

The two-game series pitted the ‘Young Guns’ — a team made up of eligible mid-season draft prospects (eligible for the AFL draft prior to this year and aged 19 or under as of January 1, 2023) selected by AFL recruiters — against a selection of Victoria’s best country and metro Under 18 boys footballers.

Ample eyes were on Gippsland Power’s Ryan Maric (193cm), who’s the prospect that has excited recruiters the most with his goal nous and efficient kick. Maric didn’t have his kicking radar on in the first game against Vic Metro (1.3 from 9 disposals), but impressed as a defender against Vic Country, racking up 23 disposals, seven marks and eight rebound 50s while going at 76 per cent by foot.

Eastern Ranges’ 204cm ruck Clay Tucker had a strong second game against Country, pushing forward to kick two goals while also finishing with 13 disposals, five marks and 14 hit-outs. He’s a strong chance to be taken by an AFL club in a fortnight’s time.

Maric and Tucker are viewed as the two best Young Guns prospects and should get picked up. 203cm Oakleigh Chargers big man William Elliott – the son of former Australian Test cricketer Matthew Elliott – also has AFL attributes. After kicking one goal in each game for the Young Guns, he’s still a chance to get picked up.

Richmond VFL’s Luke Teal was one of the most impressive performers across both Young Guns games. A 188cm prospect that played as a defender in previous years, Teal racked up 18 disposals, eight tackles and three clearances as a midfielder against Metro before collecting a whopping 32 touches, 12 contested possessions and eight marks (three contested) against Country. Teal was considered one of the unluckiest not to get picked up in last year‘s drafts after his 18th year was curtailed by injury.

Jedd Longmire, a 188cm prospect who’s been playing for Collingwood’s VFL side this year after being overlooked in his top-age draft year in 2022, had a big game in the wet against Vic Metro, finishing with 23 disposals, five clearances, five tackles and seven inside 50s. He backed it up with 17 disposals and 10 contested possessions against Country.

Geelong Falcons’ Archie Sinnott — a winger with a booming left foot kick and turn of speed — had 23 and 17 disposals respectively in the two games.

Defender Jack Cleaver (188cm), who’s been with Essendon’s VFL side this year, also had two solid games, finishing with 18 disposals and six marks against Metro before a 27-disposal display against Country. Could the Bombers upgrade him from their VFL list to their AFL list?

Nicholas Newton (187cm, Murray Bushrangers) impressed as a midfielder across both games, Rye Penny (186cm, Calder Cannons) provided good drive to do his chances no harm and Archie May peppered the goals with 1.4 and 2.1.

Of the state league players in the mid-season draft mix, luckless ex-Swan Sam Naismith is a good chance to get picked up after three knee reconstructions during his stint at Sydney. Geelong has been heavily linked to Naismith, who’s become one of the VFL’s most dominant rucks this season, while Collingwood and Sydney are also monitoring.

However the Swans have also been linked to ex-Demon and Blues utility Oscar McDonald, who’s had a strong start to his 2023 VFL campaign with Williamstown.

North Adelaide 191cm forward Noah Casalini, who won the best on ground medal for six-goal, 10-mark display in an Anzac Day victory over Norwood, is one of the SANFL’s best chances, while 199cm Claremont key forward Jack Buller reportedly has interest from the two WA clubs.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2023-prospects-order-midseason-draft-date-gold-coast-suns-trade-out-firstround-pick-jake-rogers-jed-walter-harley-reid-concussion-ryan-maric/news-story/f83e2a0da3700b40a242a85be7e2b390
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 16, 2023, 03:16:43 PM
Imagine the groans if we pick Trezise or Teal who are both half backs by the look of their profiles. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on May 16, 2023, 10:44:21 PM
Good friend of mine who is a keen watcher of young blokes in the wafl has big wraps on Buller reckons WCE  would be mad not to give him a try.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 18, 2023, 03:18:25 PM
Ex-VFL Tiger?


Rival teams are eyeing Essendon defender Massimo D’Ambrosio as one of 13 players from last year’s mid-season rookie draft coming out of contract, reports AFL Media.

Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-push-for-clubs-to-be-able-to-buy-draft-picks-using-salary-cap-space-fourth-trade-currency-massimo-dambrosio-midseason-draft-prospects-out-of-contract/news-story/514b885dfce1f5deaccf5081d2d44a66).
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2023, 03:32:38 AM
MID-SEASON ROOKIE DRAFT MEDICALS LIST

Clay Tucker (Eastern Ranges)
Ethan Stanley (Box Hill)
Flynn Riley (Northern Bullants)
Jack Buller (Claremont)
Jaiden Hunter (Perth)
James Trezise (Richmond VFL)
Mutaz El Nour (Richmond VFL)
Robert Hansen jnr (Subiaco)
Ryan Maric (Gippsland Power)
Rye Penny (Calder Cannons)
Will Elliott (Oakleigh Chargers)

The AFL informed clubs on Thursday that the group of players had received multiple draft nominations to complete medical screenings and psychometric testing by likely the end of next week before names are called on Wednesday, May 31.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/928006/son-of-ex-aussie-cricketer-among-11-set-for-medicals-ahead-of-msd
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2023, 03:54:05 PM
There were 19 players in the first group of players who nominated for the Mid-season Draft under longer-term contract lengths through to the end of 2024. Players who nominate for the 18-month term cannot be offered a shorter term by the club that selects them.

Some of those wanting longer-term contracts:

Luke Teal (Richmond VFL)
Beau Tedcastle (Richmond VFL)
Brayden Ham (ex-Essendon, Geelong VFL)
Connor McFadyen (ex-Brisbane, Sturt) - defender
Ben Ronke (ex-Sydney, Carlton VFL) - small forward
Ryley Stoddart (ex-Sydney)
Trent Mynott (ex-Essendon)
Tom Downie (ex-GWS) - ruckman
Martin Frederick (ex-Port Adelaide)
Ryan Maric (Gippsland Power)

Clubs will make their mid-season rookie picks next Wednesday night, with every selection to be broadcast live and exclusively on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/932387/delisted-trio-among-first-group-to-nominate-for-mid-season-draft
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tiger Tragic on May 22, 2023, 04:12:35 PM
Ben Ronke

Started his career like a house on fire.  24 goals in 18 games in his first season then went off the boil.

He is the type of player we need - goalkicking small forward (as well as a goal kicking tall forward).

Worth a look?
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on May 22, 2023, 08:38:57 PM
Ben Ronke

Started his career like a house on fire.  24 goals in 18 games in his first season then went off the boil.

He is the type of player we need - goalkicking small forward (as well as a goal kicking tall forward).

Worth a look?

Yep if he's in form I'd be keen
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: The Machine on May 22, 2023, 08:56:08 PM
Beau Tedcastle if we go small forward  :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: TigerLand on May 22, 2023, 09:05:22 PM
Agree on Ben Ronke.

If we are finished for the year is look elsewhere tho
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 23, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
Maybe Narkle
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on May 23, 2023, 11:04:25 AM
Retire Tarrant.

Get a tall forward and someone like Ronke.

Get games into the likes of Bauer, Bradtke and MSD picks.

Lynch still hurt, Gibcus too, and Jack needs a rest. Season is over so we need to give them a go.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2023, 12:44:43 PM
More MSD nominations:

Garrett McDonagh (Richmond VFL).

Quinton Narkle.

West Australian pair Robert Hansen jnr and Jack Buller.
Speedster Hansen jnr has received interest from a number of clubs in the lead-up to the mid-season intake and has nominated on a longer-term (18-month) contract through to the end of 2024.
Buller has lodged a short-term (six months) nomination as the 22-year-old key forward aims to land a rookie spot.

Will Elliott (son of cricketer, Matthew) - Key forward has overcome a knee injury that saw him overlooked at last year's draft and will undergo an AFL medical screening this week.

Ned Cahill (ex-Essendon)
Tom Hird (ex-Essendon)
Luke Parks (ex-Carlton, Carlton VFL)
Jack Madgen (ex-Collingwood, Adelaide SANFL)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/932415/ex-cat-wafl-duo-enter-mid-season-draft-pool
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: TigerLand on May 23, 2023, 12:58:42 PM
Agree on retiring Tarrant, without knowing what his personality is like he left his club for a tilt of finals and one last pay day, it'd be against that if he was to retire early and rip up his contract as he left North who were only offering him 1 year deals. I can understand a situation like this where the player rides a contract out vs Grigg who gives up his spot for someone else.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 24, 2023, 12:00:39 AM
The Bean  :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
RICHMOND

Mid-Season Draft Latest: Small forward Jason Castagna’s surprise retirement earlier this year has opened up a list spot for the mid-season if the Tigers want to use one. A key defender could fill a short-term need, given the continuing injury issues of Robbie Tarrant (hip) and Josh Gibcus (hamstring). Three of Richmond’s VFL-listed players have all attracted interest and are sure to also be looked at by the Tigers, in versatile defender Mutaz El Nour, forward James Trezise and rebounding halfback Luke Teal.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-where-your-club-stands-for-midseason-and-end-of-year-drafts/news-story/9f905c1edc21eb7df9b91f13c7d393b3
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2023, 10:17:18 PM
Seven VFL-listed Tigers have nominated for the MSD: Clohsey, El Nour, McDonagh, Street, Tedcastle, Teal & Trezise.


AFL mid-season draft 2023: See the full list of players who have nominated for next week’s event

Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
May 24, 2023 - 6:33PM


At least 183 players have nominated for next week’s AFL mid-season rookie draft, including 29 players who have asked for longer-term contracts if they are to be selected.

While nominations officially close on Wednesday, an updated list of early nominations was circulated to recruiters on Monday.

Players from state league competitions around the country have nominated, as well as some potential surprise packets from local competitions.

Eleven players are undergoing medical testing from the AFL in the lead up to the May 31 draft after attracting significant interest from clubs.

Those players are Clay Tucker (Eastern Ranges), Ethan Stanley (Box Hill), Flynn Riley (Northern Knights), Jack Buller (Claremont), Jaiden Hunter (Perth), James Trezise (Richmond VFL), Mutaz El Nour (Richmond VFL), Robert Hansen Jnr (Subiaco), Ryan Maric (Gippland Power), Rye Penny (Calder Cannons) and Will Elliott (Oakleigh Chargers).

Key forward Maric debuted for Box Hill’s VFL side on the weekend and is one of the players to have nominated for a longer 18-month minimum contract given he is shaping as a likely top-three pick.

Towering 204cm ruckman Tucker has requested a deal that will see him contracted until at least the end of 2024.

Other players to have nominated for longer-term deals include Richmond VFL defender Luke Teal and Frankston VFL midfielder Mitch Szybkowski, who were both expected to be selected in last year’s national draft but were overlooked.

Szybkowski trained with Essendon during pre-season in search of a pre-season Supplemental Selection Period spot, while Teal has impressed with the Tigers in the VFL as well as in two recent Young Guns games.

Tom Hird – the son of Essendon champion James – has also nominated for the mid-season draft as he seeks a second chance at AFL level after some good VFL form with Port Melbourne.

Former Essendon forward Brayden Ham, former Melbourne defender Marty Hore and former Geelong livewire Quinton Narkle are among other nominations.

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https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/every-nominee-for-afl-midseason-draft/news-story/e55a2543a6366fca08ee888d6ca5470f
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 25, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
AFL mid-season draft: Ethan Stanley’s surprise rise from Frankston YCW under 19s to Box Hill Hawks to draft prospect

The talk around the VFL is that a few AFL clubs are considering selecting the 19-year-old in the mid-season draft next Wednesday.

Their interest was evident from the AFL’s request for him to present for a medical.

Stanley, 188 centimetres and 83 kilograms, has played five games for the Hawks this season and also appeared in the Young Guns series.

Former coach Darren Murr on Ethan Stanley
“He has such a mix of attributes. He’s the most effortless, hard-running athlete you’ve ever seen who has this powerful step. He doesn’t use his speed a lot but when he goes, he goes. The other thing that stands out is that he’s always been able to kick the ball like it was a driver. His foot has always made that thumping sound which is pretty special. You don’t hear it too often. It’s exciting to see him doing well because he’s a good kid who has just kept plugging away.’’

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https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-midseason-draft-ethan-stanleys-surprise-rise-from-frankston-ycw-under-19s-to-box-hill-hawks-to-draft-prospect/news-story/b1ef851345df167aab282d1efbd56518
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 26, 2023, 01:45:17 AM
Seven VFL-listed Tigers have nominated for the MSD: Clohsey, El Nour, McDonagh, Street, Tedcastle, Teal & Trezise.
Brindley, May and Melville have also nominated.

So that now makes 10 VFL-listed Tigers.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/932885
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 26, 2023, 02:09:59 PM
Richmond set to use two picks according to Blair Hartley
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1339368/smith-placed-on-inactive-list
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 26, 2023, 05:23:40 PM
With West Coast, North Melbourne and Hawthorn holding the first three picks as it stands, Gabelich named who he expects to go to each club with those selections.

"If I was going one, two and three … I can't see Ryan Maric getting past West Coast on pick one, it's going to be an interesting one and he met with them earlier in the week,” Gabelich said.

“I think Clay Tucker the ruckman, he’s the one that probably goes (pick) two.

“Hawthorn at pick three, I think will take Ethan Stanley, so that’s how I see the first three picks going.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/25/first-three-picks-of-mid-season-draft-predicted-as-ex-afl-players-tipped-to/
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 26, 2023, 05:44:48 PM
WHO ARE THE PLAYERS MOST LIKELY TO BE PICKED?

A total of 321 players have officially nominated for the mid-season draft. But clubs expect 12 to 13 players will be selected next Wednesday, which is well down on the 17 taken last year.

While recruiters have been hesitant to talk up this year’s mid-season draft class, one player has most of them excited: Ryan Maric.

The 193cm forward prospect from Gippsland Power is widely expected to be taken with the first selection in Wednesday’s draft — and, therefore, land at West Coast — after a dramatic surge since 2021.

Maric two years ago weighed 107kg and was playing country football for Drouin as a forward in the Gippsland League. He nominated for last year’s national draft but knew he was a slim chance of being picked up.

Now weighing 83kg, Maric has become the most sought-after mid-season prospect following an excellent start to his 2023 campaign, including a four-goal, 23-disposal display for Gippsland in Round 1 of the Coates Talent League, before an impressive VFL debut for Box Hill that saw him kick 2.2 from 15 disposals and eight marks. He also impressed as a defender earlier this month playing for the Young Guns against Vic Country, racking up 23 disposals, seven marks and eight rebound 50s while going at 76 per cent by foot.

Maric, who’s reportedly been interviewed by eight AFL clubs ahead of the mid-season draft, has excited recruiters with his efficient, natural kick and goal nous.

The 18-year-old is set to land at the Eagles, while Eastern Ranges’ 204cm ruckman Clay Tucker — the top ruck prospect of the mid-season draft class — could also be taken early.

Tucker has had a consistent season with the Ranges to date, showing good athleticism at stoppages and around the ground, while also drifting forward to kick two two-goal hauls.

Should the Kangaroos, who sit 17th on the ladder at the moment, put ruck Hamish Free on the inactive list, Tucker could be an option for them, although he’d be a long-term prospect rather than someone who could play straight away.

Tucker has been training with Hawthorn, while the Giants have also been linked to him.

Although the Hawks are keeping tabs on several prospects considering they could have two picks next week, including Ethan Stanley.

A 188cm wingman, Stanley has been under the Hawks’ nose all season as he’s been playing for the Box Hill Hawks in the VFL. And the Hawks have shown a tendency to pluck players out of their VFL program at this time of the year, taking Jai Newcombe in 2021 then James Blanck last year.

Hawthorn has also interviewed Northern Bullants defender Brandon Ryan — the cousin of All-Australian Docker Luke Ryan — who looms as a likely selection next week.

A 200cm forward that can also help in the ruck, Ryan has kicked 18.10 from seven VFL matches this season, including 5.2 from 17 disposals and 10 marks against Sydney last month.

“I’ll take absolutely anywhere to be honest,” Ryan told SEN of which club he’d like to go.

Claremont key forward Jack Buller, who stands at 199cm reportedly has strong interest from the two WA clubs, while he’s also been linked to St Kilda and Geelong.

Buller has kicked 8.6 and averaged 16.3 disposals and 8.8 marks from his four WAFL league games so far this season, while he also kicked one goal for the WA representative team against SA last weekend.

Buller and Subiaco’s Robert Hansen Jnr are considered the top two WAFL prospects. A lively 180cm forward with great goal nous, Hansen kicked three goals for Subiaco’s reserves side in Round 1 before playing five league matches. Fremantle has been most strongly linked to him, while Port Adelaide and Hawthorn also reportedly have interest.

Recruiters also see lots of AFL traits in 203cm Oakleigh Chargers big man Will Elliott – the son of former Australian Test cricketer Matthew Elliott — who’s finally had some continuity this season after a few injury-interrupted years. Elliott, who kicked one goal in the Young Guns’ two games earlier this month, has been training with the Box Hill Hawks, as well as Hawthorn’s AFL side, while he was recently invited to medical testing by the AFL ahead of the draft.

Other prospects to watch out for are Rye Penny (186cm, Calder Cannons) and Luke Teal (190cm, Richmond VFL).

Penny, a rebounding half-back, racked up 31 disposals against Northern Territory in the Coates Talent League before two solid outings for the Young Guns: 14 disposals against Vic Metro then 21 against Vic Country.

Teal, a mid-sized defender, was considered one of the unluckiest not to get picked up in last year‘s drafts. He finished with 32 touches, 12 contested possessions and eight marks (three contested) against Vic Country in a recent Young Guns game.

Two more players from the Tigers’ VFL list have attracted AFL interest: Mutaz El Nour and James Trezise.

El Nour was on the radar of AFL clubs 12 months ago when he was playing VFL footy with the Bullants but was ultimately overlooked. But the 192cm intercepting defender had a strong start to his 2023 campaign with Richmond before going down with an injury in late April.

Trezise (188cm) is a strong one-on-one player that’s improved his intercept ability as the season has gone on. He had a big game against Geelong’s VFL side a fortnight ago, finishing with 29 disposals, 10 marks, six rebound 50s and four tackles.

North Adelaide 191cm forward Noah Casalini, who won the best on ground medal for six-goal, 10-mark display in an Anzac Day victory over Norwood, is one of the SANFL’s best chances. Although he’s had a few quiet games since his six-goal haul.

There’s a host of ex-AFL players in line for lifelines too.

Luckless ex-Swan Sam Naismith is a good chance to get picked up after three knee reconstructions during his stint at Sydney. As reported by foxfooty.com.au earlier this month, Geelong has been heavily linked to Naismith, who’s become one of the VFL’s most dominant rucks at Port Melbourne this season, while Collingwood and Sydney have also been monitoring his progress. Naismith, whose Borough coincidentally face Geelong’s VFL side on Sunday, is averaging 15.1 disposals, 5.5 clearances, 3.6 tackles and 40.9 hit-outs per outing this VFL season.

The Swans, though, are more likely to look at a key defender — considering the McCartin brothers and Dane Rampe remain on their injury list — with ex-Demon and Blues utility Oscar McDonald the likely pick after a strong start to his 2023 VFL campaign with Williamstown averaging 16.8 disposals and 8.3 marks per game. Although rival clubs also linked the Swans to 194cm Lions VFL defender Harry Arnold and 197cm Northern Bullants backman Baker Smith, who’s averaging 18.0 disposals and 7.9 marks per outing.

McDonald’s Williamstown teammate Marty Hore — the former Melbourne defender — has also been in excellent VFL form, averaging 22.9 disposals and 10.6 marks from eight matches. He’s been linked to the Giants and the Western Bulldogs — although the Dogs also have interest in ex-Magpie Caleb Poulter, who’s averaged 18.1 disposals and 6.3 marks for the Bulldogs’ VFL side Footscray.

Other prospects

Former Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle, who was overlooked by Richmond as an SSP recruit during the summer, is also in the mix for an AFL lifeline after booting 8.4 and averaging 19.6 disposals from eight games for Essendon’s VFL side. Clubs wouldn’t be surprised if the Bombers simply upgraded Narkle from their VFL list to their AFL list. Although the Bombers might do the same with Narkle’s teammate Jack Cleaver — a 188cm defender.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-mid-season-draft-2023-date-order-to-be-confirmed-full-nominees-list-news-updates-ryan-maric-sam-naismith/news-story/c6fb92fe4accd982fb09f6b57f0a6d11
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 26, 2023, 05:50:19 PM
Reckon it'll be Teal & a tall....wouldn't be surprised if we took Narkle and/or a small forward either though.... :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 26, 2023, 07:44:11 PM
Teal probably be needs to be getting more than 12 touches a game in the twos to get a call up.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2023, 04:25:44 AM
21 year old Key Forward Jaiden Hunter has been in ripping form the last 3 games kicking 5 today with 11 goals now from 3 games. Would have to be a huge chance for the MSD.

https://twitter.com/EdPascoe_RMC/status/1662380860656750596

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24. JAIDEN HUNTER

HEIGHT   196 cm
WEIGHT    93 kg
AGE          21
CLUB FROM: Applecross JFC
LEAGUE FROM: Metro South

9.3 AVG DISPOSALS PER GAME
5.3 AVG MARKS PER GAME
3.7 AVG GOALS PER GAME

Full stats: https://wafl.com.au/player/jaiden-hunter
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: crackertiger on May 28, 2023, 08:51:52 AM
No doubt we will pick someone from left field....
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on May 28, 2023, 09:00:37 AM
No doubt we will pick someone from left field....

A 180cm HBF is coming
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2023, 12:19:16 PM
Country hopeful James Trezise has taken giant strides in his first season in the VFL

Ex-Magpie Adam Oxley says AFL clubs are right to be thinking about VFL Tiger James Trezise ahead of the mid-season draft, writes PAUL AMY.

Paul Amy
HeraldSun
May 28, 2023


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James Trezise can’t quite believe his rise in the VFL this year.

Adam Oxley can believe it.

Former Collingwood wingman Oxley played in a premiership with Trezise at West Gippsland club Tooradin-Dalmore last season and formed the view the 20-year-old belonged at a higher level.

As it was, a Tooradin-Dalmore connection to Richmond VFL took him to Tigerland.

Former Brisbane Lions rookie Blake Grewar, who also figured in the flag last year, had played with the VFL Tigers and, through coach Steve Morris, recommended they invite Trezise to pre-season training.

They did.

He made the list.

And he has since emerged as one of the state league’s most exciting prospects.

After being asked by the AFL to present for a medical, Trezise is even considered a chance for next Wednesday’s AFL mid-season draft.

“I didn’t expect anything like this,’’ he says.

“I was stressing out that I wouldn’t even sign a contract, that they wouldn’t offer me one.

“After that, everything has caught me by surprise.

“After signing, it was all about just trying to get a game, and once that happened I just wanted to stay in the side.’’

The 188cm Trezise has played every game for the Tigers.

After his performance against Carlton, when he had 16 possessions, four marks and gunned a goal from outside 50m, Morris called him a “super exciting player’’.

“The X-factor that he has was on show in and around the footy, and kicked a beautiful goal from long range in the first quarter,’’ Morris told the club website.

Trezise’s stand-out effort came in Round 8 against Geelong, when he had 29 disposals and collected 10 marks.

It led to more lift-off from Morris.

“Best game for the year for James. He’s been improving each week, but I thought he was fantastic defensively,’’ the coach said. “He’s an extremely good one-versus-one player and won the ball back a number of times for us.’’

Trezise was taken aback when he received an email from AFL high-performance manager Paul Sealy about the medical.

He is surprised recruiters have noticed him.

“Bit shocked, to be honest. I’ve only played the eight games of VFL footy,’’ he says. “Now people are saying, ‘You could be a chance’.’’

Trezise, a business and marketing student at Swinburne University, came out of the strong Berwick Junior Football Club.

He made two interleague teams but none of the Dandenong Stingrays programs.

After joining Tooradin-Dalmore to play in the under 18s and impressing enough to make the West Gippsland under-age side, Trezise was promoted for a senior debut in 2019.

But he played no football in 2020 because of Covid and had 10 games in 2021 before the pandemic killed off the season.

Last year, then, was his first full season in senior company.

The left-footer kicked 26 goals, had eight mentions in the best and helped Tooradin-Dalmore to its first senior premiership in 25 years. He played in the forward line and had a run in the ruck.

Whatever his position, he took the eye of Oxley.

“I’m in my third year at Tooradin and from my first few weeks there I could see there was something special about him,’’ Oxley tells CODE Sports.

“He put on a bit of size last year and he’s always been super-athletic with a vertical leap as good as I’ve ever seen. The main thing that jumped out at me was his defensive skills. He loves tackling, and his tackles stick like a vice.

“The longer last year went on he gained more and more confidence and won us a lot of games off his own boot. He played everywhere too. That’s another string to his bow, his versatility. He’s a good forward, he can play a bit of wing. I see Richmond have chucked him back and he’s even gone in the ruck.’’

What is his best position?

Oxley thinks he’s a “natural forward with his cat-like reflexes and his hangers’’.

“But I could easily see him being a half-back flanker, taking plenty of intercept marks and kicking the ball well, because his kicking is amazing,’’ he says.

“You could call him the ultimate swingman.’’

Oxley is enjoying watching Trezise make his mark at Punt Rd, noting his “trajectory is trending in the right direction’’.

He says it’s not silly to think Trezise could play an AFL game later in the season if he’s selected in the mid-season draft.

“If a club has a few injuries, he could slide in, just because of that utility style he shows.’’

Trezise appreciates Tooradin-Dalmore’s part in his jump to the VFL.

Last year he played alongside not only Oxley and Grewar, but AFL premiership Magpie Brent Macaffer and ex-Richmond rookie Piva Wright.

He says they all gave him a lot of advice and encouragement, and supported him trying to go to the VFL, as did coach Lachie Gillespie.

Similarly, he says Morris and the other Richmond coaching staff have backed him at every turn.

In Trezise’s absence, Tooradin-Dalmore has named an award after him this season.

The defensive player of the week is given ‘The Jimmy Award’.

“I don’t even know if anyone has told him yet,’’ Oxley says.

James Trezise might not believe it anyway.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/country-hopeful-james-trezise-has-taken-giant-strides-in-his-first-season-in-the-vfl/news-story/2559f8c5d4514e7aab4c1afbace3189c
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2023, 12:19:27 PM
TOP 20 MID-SEASON DRAFT PROSPECTS

Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
May 28, 2023


Ryan Maric
Gippsland Power (Coates League)
H: 193cm, W: 83kg, DOB: 6/9/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 18 months

Widely considered to be the top talent in this mid-season draft pool, Maric is a mid-sized forward who possesses a beautiful kick. He also has good speed, works hard up the ground to provide an option for teammates and makes sound decisions. Maric was only brought in to the Gippsland Power squad in the middle of the year after playing some good senior football with local club Drouin. However, he quickly caught the attention of recruiters after kicking four goals in the opening round of the Coates Talent League season. Maric also impressed in the two Young Guns games, playing forward in the first match before being switched to defence in the second match. He kicked


Clay Tucker
Eastern Ranges (Coates League)
H: 204cm, W: 99kg, DOB: 9/8/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 18 months

A towering tall, Tucker covers the ground well with his mobility and agility and has good ruck craft. He has continued to develop as the year has progressed, both in the ruck and also with his ability to go forward and impact the scoreboard. Across his first five games for the Ranges, Tucker averaged 10.4 disposals, 3.4 marks, 21 hitouts and 0.8 goals. He featured in both Young Guns games earlier this month, particularly catching the eye in the second game against Vic Country at Ikon Park. In that match, Tucker gathered 13 disposals, 14 hitouts and kicked two goals. He has spent time training with Hawthorn in recent weeks.


Ethan Stanley
Box Hill (VFL)
H: 188cm, W: 83kg, DOB: 13/11/2003
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months


A late bloomer, the wingman or half-forward was playing under-19s with his local club Frankston YCW last year. He hadn’t caught the eye of the Dandenong Stingrays as a junior, but was invited to train with Box Hill over summer and managed to win a spot on the club’s VFL list. Stanley’s versatility, powerful kick, explosive speed and great vertical leap are all strengths of his game. He has played five VFL games for Box Hill this year, averaging 13.2 disposals and 4.6 score involvements. Stanley also featured in the two Young Guns games earlier this month, gathering 15 disposals and kicking two goals in the second of those games.


Will Elliott
Oakleigh Chargers (Coates League)
H: 203cm, W: 94kg, DOB: 11/6/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A promising tall forward, Elliott was earmarked as a top AFL prospect on the back of a strong bottom-age season before having most of his 18th year in 2022 wiped out with a knee injury. He returned to fitness to test at the state draft combine last October, but was ultimately overlooked in last year’s drafts. Elliott’s contested marking is a strength in attack and he also has the ability to spend time in the ruck. He logged nine disposals, took two contested marks, had two score assists and kicked one goal in the Young Guns’ second match against Vic Country earlier this month. Elliott is the son of former Australian cricketer Matthew Elliott.


Flynn Riley
Northern Knights (Coates League)
H: 206cm, W: 101kg, DOB: 5/4/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 18 months

A man mountain, Riley is a developing ruckman who has greatly improved his game as an over-age player with the Northern Knights this year. He attracted a little bit of interest from clubs before last year’s draft, but that has grown this season since a monster Round 4 performance against Gold Coast which saw Riley log 21 disposals, 37 hitouts, seven clearances, seven score involvements and a goal. Riley featured in both of the Young Guns games earlier this month, splitting ruck duties with Clay Tucker. His height would leave him as the equal-12th tallest player in the AFL if he were to be drafted.


Robert Hansen Jnr
Subiaco (WAFL)
H: 180cm, W: 70kg, DOB: 13/3/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 18 months

A wingman or small forward, Hansen Jr is lightning quick, agile, has a dynamic left foot and does things on the field that others can’t. An indigenous player from the Goldfields League 600 km North-East of Perth, he played a full season of under 18s last year but has progressed to play senior football with Subiaco in the WAFL this season. From his first five senior games, Hansen Jnr averaged 10.6 disposals, 4.4 score involvements and kicked three goals. He received approval to play for Western Australia as an overage player in the under-18 national championships this year but now looks set to be selected in the mid-season draft.


Rye Penny
Calder Cannons (Coates League)
H: 186cm, W: 82kg, DOB: 1/3/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

An athletic running defender or wingman, Penny’s speed and natural leap stood out during pre-season testing. He ran a 20m sprint time of 2.89 sec and recorded a running vertical jump result of 101cm to be among the best performers across all testing. He continues to improve with his decision making and ball use and his unique athletic abilities have continued to shine. During the Young Guns series he was among the better players in matches against Vic Metro and Country and logged 21 in the second of those matches.


James Trezise
Richmond (VFL)
H: 188cm, W: 76kg, DOB: 15/6/2002
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

Signed by the Tigers’ VFL team this year as a smooth-moving half-forward, Trezise kicked 26 goals from 20 games for Tooradin-Dalmore in the West Gippsland Football League last year to help his side break a 25-year premiership drought. However, he has found a new home across halfback in the state league competition this year. Trezise has good speed and endurance, an exciting leap and is a booming kick. Across eight VFL games this year, he has averaged 16 disposals, 5.4 intercept possessions, 4.9 marks and 4.9 goals. Trezise has even done some ruck work for Richmond this year, despite being undersized.


Jack Buller
Claremont (WAFL)
H: 199cm, W: 99kg, DOB: 16/5/2001
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A key defender and ruckman in his under-18 year in 2019, Buller has developed into a powerful key forward. He models his game on Port Adelaide’s Charlie Dixon and has worked hard on his fitness over the past 12 months to allow him to get to more contests. Buller is a fierce competitor and a physical presence in attack who can take plenty of contested marks. He has played four senior games for Claremont in the WAFL this year, including a breakout 22 disposal, 14 marks and 4 goal game against South Fremantle in Round 2. He had eight disposals, 11 hitouts and kicked a goal for Western Australia in a match against South Australia earlier this month.


Jaiden Hunter
Perth (WAFL)
H: 196cm, W: 93kg, DOB: 20/4/2002
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A goalkicking forward, Hunter was overlooked in his draft year in 2020 before having a horrid run with injury. An elbow injury prematurely ended his 2021 season and he went on to rupture his ACL during a practice match at the start of last year, wiping out his entire 2022 campaign. Hunter returned to the field for Perth’s reserves side in Round 1 this year and booted four goals, before earning a senior WAFL opportunity a month later. He kicked four goals in his first senior game of the year against West Coast, catching the eye of AFL recruiters. Hunter is a competitor, has good aerial ability and reads the play well. The apprentice electrician previously played as a defender and ruckman during 2020 and 2021, showing his versatility.


Brandon Ryan
Northern Bullants (VFL)
H: 200cm, DOB: 7/11/1997
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A towering tall forward, Ryan previously spent two years on North Melbourne’s VFL list, signing on with the Kangaroos at the end of 2017. But he didn’t have a good run at that stint as he suffered knee and ankle injuries, which made for plenty of time in the rehabilitation group. Ryan got his body right over the past two years and was invited to train with the Northern Bullants after kicking 38 goals in 17 games for Maribyrnong Park in the Essendon District Football League last year. Ryan is athletic, a strong mark, has a nice left-foot kick and is good below his knees for a player of his size. The cousin of Fremantle defender Luke Ryan, he has averaged 14 disposals, 5 marks, 5.9 score involvements and 2.6 goals from seven VFL games this year.


Mutaz El Nour
Richmond (VFL)
H: 192cm, W: 83kg, DOB: 14/8/2001
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A mid-sized hybrid defender, El Nour was considered as a mid-season draft prospect when he was playing for the Northern Bullants last year but was ultimately overlooked. He moved to fellow VFL side Richmond this season, where he has again been solid. El Nour’s one-on-one contest work has been impressive, along with some of his intercepting. He also brings dare, athleticism and good foot skills. Across his first five VFL games this year, El Nour averaged 11.2 disposals, 3 marks and 4.4 spoils.

ALSO IN THE MIX...

Oscar McDonald
Williamstown (VFL)
H: 196cm, W: 98kg, DOB: 18/3/1996
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A key defender, McDonald was delisted by Carlton at the end of last year following two injury-interrupted seasons with a serious back injury. Before that he had played 81 AFL games across six seasons with Melbourne. McDonald joined VFL side Williamstown at the end of last year and has since got his body right. He has played all eight games this season, averaging 16.8 disposals and 8.3 marks. McDonald also rates elite in the competition for intercept marks (4 a game) and above average for intercept possessions (8.9 a game).


Sam Naismith
Port Melbourne (VFL)
H: 205cm, W: 110kg, DOB: 16/7/1992
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

The former Sydney ruckman is in the mix for another AFL opportunity after a dominant start to the season with Port Melbourne in the VFL. The big man has been the best performed ruckman in the VFL this year, averaging 15.1 disposals and 40.9 hitouts a game for Port Melbourne. Naismith, who turns 31 in July, played 30 games across nine seasons for the Swans before being delisted at the end of last year. Naismith underwent a third knee reconstruction in 2021.


Caleb Poulter
Footscray (VFL)
H: 194cm, W: 84kg, DOB: 12/10/2002
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

Delisted by Collingwood at the end of last season, Poulter has impressed on a wing for Footscray in the VFL this year. He played 12 games across two seasons for the Magpies, including 11 games in 2021, after being selected at pick 30 in the 2020 national draft. Across seven VFL games this season, Poulter has averaged 18.1 disposals, 6.3 marks and 0.7 goals.


Marty Hore
Williamstown (VFL)
H: 190cm, W: 84kg, DOB: 5/3/1996
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

The former Melbourne defender has been rock solid for Williamstown in the VFL this season, after making the switch from North Melbourne’s VFL side at the end of last season. Hore played 14 AFL games across three seasons with the Demons before being delisted at the end of the 2021 season. Hore has been the leading intercept player in the VFL this year, averaging 5.6 intercept marks and 10.4 intercept possessions.


Quinton Narkle
Essendon (VFL)
H: 182cm, W: 83kg, DOB: 3/12/1997
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A former Geelong midfielder, Narkle wasn’t able to find another AFL opportunity after being delisted by the Cats at the end of last season following five seasons and 41 senior games for the club. Narkle trained with Richmond during pre-season, but the Tigers opted to instead fill their last list spot with forward Kaelan Bradtke during the Supplementary Selection Period. In eight VFL games for the Bombers this year, Narkle has averaged 20 disposals, 4.6 clearances, 4.4 tackles and a goal a game.


Jack Cleaver
Essendon (VFL)
H: 188cm, W: 87kg, DOB: 22/5/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A left-footed medium defender, Cleaver was a consistent performer for Western Australia at under-18 level last year as well as playing seven matches at senior level with East Fremantle including finals. He is a really strong player in his attack on the ball and a clean ball handler. Cleaver trained with Essendon in search of an AFL list spot during the pre-season Supplemental Selection Period. He didn’t win that spot, but the Bombers signed him up to their VFL program and he relocated to Victoria permanently. In six VFL games this year, Cleaver has averaged 12.7 disposals, 5 marks, 5 intercept possessions and 2 spoils. He was also impressive in wet and slippery conditions in the Young Guns’ first game against Vic Metro, logging 18 disposals.


Noah Casalini
North Adelaide (SANFL)
H: 191cm, W: 88kg, DOB: 2/7/2001
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A mid-sized marking forward, Casalini caught the attention of clubs after booting six goals from 18 disposals and 10 marks in a best-on-ground performance against Norwood in the SANFL on Anzac Day. He is an athletic player with a good leap, speed and marks the ball well in the air. Casalini relocated to South Australia this year after playing for Greater Western Sydney in the VFL last season.


Luke Teal
Richmond (VFL)
H: 190cm, W: 82kg, DOB: 20/5/2004
Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

A defender or wingman, Teal had his under-18 year decimated by injury and illness in 2022. He first had an appendix operation and then suffered a broken collarbone, curtailing the majority of the season. However, he returned late in the campaign for the Chargers last year and showed good intercept ability and rebound off halfback in a handful of games. This season he impressed in three games with the Chargers, averaging 20 disposals in the Coates Talent League before earning some VFL opportunities with Richmond. In the second Young Guns game against Vic Country, Teal racked up a game-high 32 disposals in a new role in the midfield as he continues his development.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-midseason-draft-2023-the-top-20-prospects-up-for-grabs/news-story/5e03969e66824f7fecfe3c36f8586e59
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 28, 2023, 12:30:07 PM
Least we might get our choice of player this year with bombers not picking before us.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: torch on May 28, 2023, 05:10:33 PM
2 Tall Forwards ASAP!

Maybe one of them might be a keeper!

THAT IS WHAT WE NEED MOST!
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 28, 2023, 05:24:16 PM
Mid-season draft hopeful Jaiden Hunter with five goals in Perth’s four-point upset win over South Fremantle. Richmond and Essendon among the interested teams. Would be a remarkable story after two years out with elbow and knee issues.

https://twitter.com/jordan_mc12/status/1662404755044593665

 :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on May 29, 2023, 01:03:50 PM
How many picks do you think we'll use?

Currently have 2 spots due to George retirement and Kaleb Smith LTI.

Tarrant doesn't look like he'll play again but I suspect the club won't bother taking a 3rd MSD as it will occupy a list spot at the ND later this year (wonder if we'll trade into the draft) and they might want to keep a farewell game possible for him.

Given our lack of a R1 pick for this year's ND I do wonder if it's a better option to take a punt in the MSD with two picks given we will actually have at least 1 high pick in the MSD.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: georgies31 on May 29, 2023, 02:47:13 PM
Get Hunter in and a good ball user.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 29, 2023, 03:11:34 PM
Will be Hunter & Teal or Hunter & Narkle.....lest Maric slides which he won't ....Buller, Elliot, El Nour & Trezise outside chances... source:gut :shh


Of course this being Richmond "Some bloke no-one's heard of or anticipated & pass" is also a good chance.... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 29, 2023, 04:09:40 PM
Get Hunter in and a good ball user.
4 goals against the Eagles reserves doesnt fill me with that much confidence. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 29, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
Twomey has us linked to Hunter, Buller & Trezise.

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Twomey's mock MSD draft:

WCE - Maric / Trezise / Hansen / Buller
North - Maric / Tucker (although Twomey doesn't believe Tucker will end up at Norf)
Haw - Maric / Stanley
Rich - Hunter / Buller / Trezise
GWS - Trezise / Tucker
Syd - McDonald / Arnold / Hore / Schumacher
Geel - Elliot / Naismith / Riley
Freo - Hansen (likely gone before this pick)
Ess - Hunter / Lachlan Burrows / Penny
Dogs - Hore / El Nour

Go to 10 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/video/940575/gettable-mid-season-mock-draft-hot-pie-interest-where-eagles-throw-millions-
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 29, 2023, 05:44:43 PM
Teams ponder multiple picks; Tigers keep tabs on top WA target: Mid-season draft state of play

Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
May 29th, 2023 5:20 pm


Richmond, which holds Pick 4, last week confirmed it has two list vacancies ahead of Wednesday’s mid-season draft due to Jason Castagna’s shock retirement in February and Kaleb Smith’s foot injury, which saw moved to the inactive list. Whether it takes two players on the night, however, remains uncertain

The Tigers could upgrade Trezise from their VFL list to the AFL list. But they’ve also been strongly linked to lively 180cm Subiaco forward Robert Hansen Jnr, who also has big interest from Fremantle.

The Tigers and Essendon also reportedly have interest in Perth forward Jaiden Hunter, who’s exploded into mid-season draft calculations after a stunning three-game stint at WAFL league level. He kicked 4.3 against West Coast, followed by hauls of 2.1 against West Perth and, most recently, 5.1 against South Fremantle.

Full article here: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-midseason-draft-2023-order-prospects-date-time-ryan-maric-james-trezise-clay-tucker-ethan-stanley/news-story/f2c53e56ec7eaeb6b8cb33e4e0fdf8d4
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: yandb on May 29, 2023, 05:47:32 PM
Tresize would fit in well with our game plan this year as he butchers the ball on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 29, 2023, 07:45:19 PM
If we use two picks then we'll have picks 4 & 14.

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Clubs still have time to activate selections for Wednesday's mid-season rookie draft but as it stands here is the order for the top-10.

1 - WCE
2 - NM
3 - Haw
4 - Rich
5 - GWS
6 - Syd
7 - Geel
8 - Frem
9 - Ess
10 - WB

Live broadcast on @AFLcomau on Wednesday night.

Clubs have until 5pm Tuesday to move a player to inactive list and open a mid-season pick.

Expecting around 17 spots to be open - adding Port Adelaide as pick 11, WCE/Hawks/Rich/GWS/Sydney for second round picks and the Swans for a likely third as well.

https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1663092714999775233
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: georgies31 on May 29, 2023, 08:21:16 PM
Grab a big forward and good ball user.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 30, 2023, 01:30:29 AM


The Tigers could upgrade Trezise from their VFL list to the AFL list. But they’ve also been strongly linked to lively 180cm Subiaco forward Robert Hansen Jnr, who also has big interest from Fremantle.



Geez hope not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7VXAxOx8A&t=3s

Worst "highlights" video I think I've ever seen.... :shh :help
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 30, 2023, 04:07:32 AM
Jack Buller highlights look pretty good, sorry unsure how to paste them
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Knighter on May 30, 2023, 06:29:30 AM


The Tigers could upgrade Trezise from their VFL list to the AFL list. But they’ve also been strongly linked to lively 180cm Subiaco forward Robert Hansen Jnr, who also has big interest from Fremantle.



Geez hope not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7VXAxOx8A&t=3s

Worst "highlights" video I think I've ever seen.... :shh :help

Lock for 200 games now if u don’t like him
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 30, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
So what were your favourite highlights there champ? The spray across goal? The easy missed set shots? The kicks that either fell short of his teammates or were on top the their heads? The multiple wrong options?  :shh


Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 30, 2023, 12:24:39 PM
So what were your favourite highlights there champ? The spray across goal? The easy missed set shots? The kicks that either fell short of his teammates or were on top the their heads? The multiple wrong options?  :shh

So your saying he should fit in well
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 30, 2023, 12:25:58 PM
Like a glove. :shh :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 30, 2023, 02:47:57 PM
The HeraldSun's mock draft has us selecting Jake Buller and Rye Penny.


AFL Mid-Season Mock Draft 2023: See who your club could take

How will the mid-season draft play out? Our draft experts have played the role of club recruiters and taken every pick live. Check out every pick and watch the full video.

Dan Batten and Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
May 30, 2023 - 2:23PM


1. West Coast – Ryan Maric (Gippsland Power)
Medium Forward, 193cm, 18

Chris Cavanagh says: It’s hard to see the Eagles passing over Maric at pick 1. He’s widely regarded as the best talent in the pool and has shone brightly stepping up to VFL level with Box Hill over the past couple of weeks. At 193cm, Maric is more of that third-tall forward than a commanding key forward, but he’s got a beautiful kick and works hard leading up to the wings. He looks up to Melbourne’s Bailey Fristch and Geelong’s Jeremy Cameron, if you can picture a mix of those two players. Remarkably, Maric has dropped 24kg in less than three years so he has worked hard to earn his AFL opportunity.

2. North Melbourne - James Trezise (Richmond VFL)
Defender, 188cm, 20

Dan says: Rival clubs have linked Trezise to North Melbourne and he would bring a promising mix of attacking and defensive traits to the Roos, who need some young stoppers and interceptors in defence. After slotting 26 goals from 20 games for Tooradin-Dalmore in the West Gippsland League last year, Trezise has been turned into a defender for Richmond’s VFL side and has shone, averaging 16 disposals, 5.4 intercepts and 4.9 tackles. Trezise is well rounded as a defender - he has good closing speed, a good leap and reads the play well. His breakout game came a fortnight ago in the VFL, where he finished with 29 disposals, 12 intercepts, 10 marks and 158 SuperCoach ranking points against Geelong.

3. Hawthorn – Ethan Stanley (Box Hill Hawks)
Forward/Wing, 188cm, 19

Chris says: It didn’t take long for the Hawks to realise they might have found a player after Stanley joined Box Hill from Frankston YCW’s under-19s over the off-season. He’s a wingman or half-forward who hadn’t caught the eye of the Dandenong Stingrays as a junior but has versatility, a powerful kick, explosive speed and a great vertical leap. Stanley impressed in both of the Young Guns matches earlier this month and has averaged 13.7 disposals, 4.7 score involvements and a goal a game across his six VFL games for Box Hill this season. So he’s one that’s jumped out of nowhere but certainly has a lot of upside and he doesn’t turn 20 until November so he can come through with the rest of Hawthorn’s young group.

4. Richmond - Jack Buller (Claremont)
Key forward, 199cm, 22

Dan says: The Tigers would be thinking of life after Jack Riewoldt and with pre-season rookie pick Kaelan Bradtke a developing type and Samson Ryan still raw, Buller shapes as a prospect who can be called on from the get-go. Buller, who turned 22 this month, had a breakout game earlier in the year where he finished with 22 disposals, 14 marks (five of those contested), 10 score involvements and four goals. Buller is athletic, ultra-competitive, has great hands overhead and has improved his tank, allowing him to be used in the ruck to great effect.

5. GWS – Clay Tucker (Eastern Ranges)
Ruck/Forward, 204cm, 18

Chris says: He’s a towering tall at 204cm who has also had interest from North Melbourne and Hawthorn, but expect the Giants to snap up Tucker if he slips through to pick 5. He covers the ground well with his mobility and agility and has good ruck craft. He’s also shown an ability to go forward and hit the scoreboard at stages this year. Tucker’s spent time training with Hawthorn in recent weeks and particularly caught the eye in the second Young Guns game against Vic Country at Ikon Park earlier this month. He gathered 13 disposals, 14 hitouts and kicked two goals that day. So he’s certainly a promising young tall who is still just 18 years old.

6. Sydney - Oscar McDonald (Williamstown VFL)
Key defender, 196cm, 26

Dan says: The Swans key defensive stocks have been decimated by injury this season – with Callum Mills and Nick Blakey forced to play on hulking key forwards at times - and former Blue and Demon Oscar McDonald can provide some immediate relief. McDonald struggled with back issues in his last two year’s with Carlton and told the Herald Sun last week he was “devastated” to be delisted at the end of last year. But after undergoing surgery, the 26-year-old has shone for Williamstown in the VFL this year, averaging 8.9 intercept possessions and four intercept marks per game. Sydney has been strongly linked to the 196cm defender with uncertainty surrounding the future of Paddy McCartin.

7. Geelong – Sam Naismith (Port Melbourne)
Ruck, 205cm, 30

Chris says: This would be a remarkable story. Naismith previously played 30 games in nine years for Sydney before being delisted at the end of last year. Now just weeks shy of his 31st birthday, he is eyeing off a second chance. He’s had three knee reconstructions, the most recent being in 2021. But he hasn’t missed a beat for Port Melbourne in the VFL this season and has been the competition’s best performed ruckman. We know that Geelong has long lacked a dominant No.1 ruckman and with the reigning premiers still very much in contention, this could be a clever play for the second half of the season.

8. Fremantle - Robert Hansen (Subiaco)
Small forward, 180cm, 19

Dan says: If he makes it this far, the smooth-moving Hansen would be a handy pick-up for the Dockers, who have shown interest in the clever small forward. Hansen Jr makes good decisions with ball in hand, is clean at ground level and has a burst of speed. After being overlooked in last year’s draft, the 19-year-old was elevated to Subiaco’s senior side after just one game in the reserves and he was among 12 players to undergo official medical testing - a sign of his interest.

9. Essendon – Jaiden Hunter (Perth)
Forward, 196cm, 21

Chris says: Could this apprentice electrician provide an added spark to the Essendon forward line? The West Australian has had a horror run with injury in recent years, since originally being overlooked in his draft year in 2020. An elbow injury prematurely ended his 2021 season and he went on to rupture his ACL during a practice match at the start of last year, wiping out his entire 2022 campaign. But since he kicked four goals for Perth in the WAFL Reserves in Round 1 and has kicked 11 goals across the past three weeks in the seniors to really capture the attention of clubs. A five-goal haul against South Fremantle last weekend would have done his mid-season draft hopes no harm at all.

10. Western Bulldogs - Marty Hore (Williamstown)
Medium defender, 190cm, 27

Dan says: We considered Footscray recruit and former Pie Caleb Poulter here but Hore, 27, has arguably been the best defender in the VFL this year - averaging a whopping 5.6 intercept marks per game and 10.4 intercept possessions. In his last match for Williamstown, was an intercept force, clunking 10 intercept marks and picking off 17 intercepts against Carlton’s VFL side on the way to 156 SuperCoach ranking points. Hore played 14 games in a promising debut season for the Demons as a mature-age recruit in 2019, but two injury-riddled seasons followed, which led to him being delisted at the end of 2021. The Bulldogs are among the clubs to show interest in the intercept defender and he can help bolster their sometimes leaky defence.

11. Port Adelaide – Noah Casalini (North Adelaide)
Forward, 191cm, 21

Chris says: The Power are not certain to use a pick here, but one they might be looking at if they do is North Adelaide’s Noah Casalini. He’s the top mid-season draft prospect out of South Australia and he is another player who did his chances no harm last weekend. He actually played against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side and had 16 disposals, 10 score involvements and kicked five goals. He’s quite athletic, has good speed and a nice leap. He’s been a little bit up and down this year, but also kicked six goals in a best-on-ground performance against Norwood on Anzac Day. So there’s a bit to work with.

12. Hawthorn – Brandon Ryan (Northern Bullants)
Forward, 200cm, 25

Chris says: Ryan was on North Melbourne’s VFL list a few years back but didn’t have a good run at it as he suffered some knee and ankle injuries. He was playing for Maribyrnong Park in the Essendon District Football League last year, where he kicked 38 goals in 17 games. But he’s bolted into contention after a good start to the VFL season with the Bullants, where he’s been kicking goals most weeks. He’s a nice left-foot kick and is quite athletic. He’s also the cousin of Fremantle defender Luke Ryan, who was plucked out of the VFL from Coburg as well.

13. Richmond - Rye Penny (Calder Cannons)
Defender, 186cm, 19

Dan says: The Tigers may choose not to take a pick here but I’ve opted to go a long-term prospect in super athletic defender Rye Penny. The former volleyballer equalled the vertical jump record at last year’s state combine with a 109cm leap and that’s exactly what he does on the field, where he reads the play well and can fly for hangers. Penny also has speed to burn and has been used more through the midfield for Calder Cannons in the Coates Talent League as an over-age player. The 19-year-old was among the 12 players who underwent medical testing ahead of the mid-season draft and trained with Collingwood over the pre-season in pursuit of a list spot.

14. GWS - PASS

15. Sydney - Harry Arnold (Brisbane VFL)
Key defender, 194cm, 23

Dan says: The Swans are on the lookout not just for players who can help their AFL side, but ready-made prospects who can provide relief for their struggling VFL outfit. Arnold is player who can do both with his intercept marking, great leap and strong hands as a key back. The Suns Academy graduate has attracted interest from the Swans after a breakout VFL campaign where he has averaged 2.5 intercept marks per game. Arnold is also a neat user by foot, hitting the target with 83 per cent of his kicks this year.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-midseason-mock-draft-2023-see-who-your-club-could-take/news-story/ed1728c8df7cb11cea73dd6ae224a1e1
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: pmac21 on May 30, 2023, 04:25:53 PM
You should be able to have first crack at your VFL players in the mid season draft or have a signing period just prior.  You could do the same for the interstate teams from their local comps. 
Looks like we may lose another one or two from our VFL side mid year,
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 12:30:56 PM
Richmond will take pics No. 4 and No. 13 into tonight's 2023 AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

2023 AFL MID-SEASON ROOKIE DRAFT ORDER

First round

1 – West Coast
2 – North Melbourne
3 – Hawthorn
4 – Richmond
5 – Greater Western Sydney
6 – Sydney
7 – Geelong
8 – Fremantle
9 – Essendon
10 – Western Bulldogs
11 – Port Adelaide

Second round

12 – Hawthorn
13 – Richmond
14 – GWS
15 – Sydney

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1347474/ultimate-guide-to-the-2023-afl-mid-season-rookie-draft
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 06:57:09 PM
7news just said Richmond is interested in Glenelg's Matthew Coulthard.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/936853/sanfl-showreel-r7-matthew-coulthard-highlights

Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 31, 2023, 07:01:14 PM
7news just said Richmond is interested in Glenelg's Matthew Coulthard.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/936853/sanfl-showreel-r7-matthew-coulthard-highlights
176 cm, 69 kg, pass
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:02:09 PM
7news just said Richmond is interested in Glenelg's Matthew Coulthard.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/936853/sanfl-showreel-r7-matthew-coulthard-highlights

Small forward.

AGE:       22
HEIGHT:  176cm
WEIGHT:  69kg

(https://sanfl-player-images.imgix.net/headshots/sanfl/glenelg/Matthew_Coulthard.png?fit=clip&crop=top&w=700&h=700&dpr=1.5)

https://glenelgfc.com.au/statewide-super-league/players/1008616/?league=sanfl&season=2023
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 31, 2023, 07:11:56 PM
lmao....4 goals in 9 games ...another dynamic space guarding midget... :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:12:08 PM
Twomey just said we'll look at Clay Tucker if he's around at our pick (he's not saying we'll take him).
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:18:50 PM
Started:

1. WCE - Ryan Maric
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 31, 2023, 07:21:52 PM
Is this being broadcast anywhere?
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:22:48 PM
Is this being broadcast anywhere?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/932392/live-from-7pm-aest-watch-the-2023-afl-mid-season-draft

Click on the live stream in the above link.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:23:02 PM
2. Norf - Robert Hansen Jnr
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 31, 2023, 07:23:11 PM
Is this being broadcast anywhere?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/932392/live-from-7pm-aest-watch-the-2023-afl-mid-season-draft

Click on the live stream in the above link.

Thanks  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:25:10 PM
3. Haw - Clay Tucker


We're next.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:27:38 PM
4. Rich - Matthew Coulthard

Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 31, 2023, 07:28:44 PM
lmao....4 goals in 9 games ...another dynamic space guarding midget... :shh

They just said he kicked all 4 games this past weekend and he’s only played 2 state league games before that.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:29:24 PM
5. GWS - Pass
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:30:43 PM
6. Syd - Harry Arnold
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: The Machine on May 31, 2023, 07:32:04 PM
lmao....4 goals in 9 games ...another dynamic space guarding midget... :shh

They just said he kicked all 4 games this past weekend and he’s only played 2 state league games before that.

Played 3 games in total if you look him up :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:32:34 PM
7. Geel - Mitch Hardie
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:33:58 PM
8. Freo - Ethan Stanley
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:35:46 PM
9. Ess - Jaiden Hunter

Bombers go for the key forward.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:38:12 PM
10. Dogs - Caleb Poulter
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:40:12 PM
11. Port - Quinton Narkle

End of round 1.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:42:35 PM
12. Haw - Brandon Ryan


Our last pick is next.

Jack Buller still available as a 199cm key forward.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:44:40 PM
13. Rich - James Trezise


Gone local.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: georgies31 on May 31, 2023, 07:46:16 PM
Lool not even a tall do the recruiting team understand the balance of list  :banghead.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on May 31, 2023, 07:46:53 PM
14. GWS - pass again.

Buller gone to the Swans.

15. Syd - Jack Buller.

That's all folks!

Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Knighter on May 31, 2023, 07:48:42 PM
A couple of midgets. Cue the melts
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on May 31, 2023, 07:52:46 PM
13. Rich - James Trezise


Gone loco.

e.f.a.  :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: torch on May 31, 2023, 08:23:15 PM
Dumb and Dumber
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: MintOnLamb on May 31, 2023, 11:47:13 PM
Really disappointed, Buller was what we needed IMHO
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on June 01, 2023, 07:58:15 AM
Really disappointed, Buller was what we needed IMHO

Yeah and given he was still available with our second pick I'm also disappointed.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on June 01, 2023, 04:47:52 PM
Hilarious list management.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2023, 06:14:37 PM
'Both of them are really good competitors' - Matt Clarke

National Recruiting Manager Matthew Clarke wraps up the 2023 AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

WATCH HERE: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1347951/-both-of-them-are-really-good-competitors-clarke
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: RedanTiger on June 01, 2023, 06:50:12 PM
Before this draft I was anticipating we would take a tall forward and one of the reserves boys.
I was eager about which of the forwards we would take and there were about 3 or 4 who looked likely with height and agility.
looking forward to seeing what they had and how they would develop.

Imagine how gutted I am that we took a tiny small forward, again.

Nice one Clarke, you really killed my vibe.
Oh well at least Jack will get yet another year or two or maybe suddenly Ryan and Miller will become that skilled, mobile forward we need.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: FooffooValve on June 01, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: The Machine on June 01, 2023, 08:58:19 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.


 :clapping :lol
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on June 01, 2023, 09:07:55 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.

Lol at people who think any mid season pick is gunna be royce hart. Well id laugh if that was the expectation.
I don't see anyone expecting anything other than maybe a decent foot soldier or at best we get lucky and find a diamond in the rough.

Thing is to find the diamond in the rough you have to take the type.
What people are clearly saying is no chance of finding a tall fwd or mid if we continue to ignore taking them.We will always  die wondering because we never have a go at the types we need.

Not just msd picks but rookie picks and late nd picks along with early nd picks we just refuse to use them on you gopt it talls.

They take flankers and smalls because they lack courage in their convictions.That i will leave you to ponder.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 03, 2023, 12:03:34 AM
I think trying Matt Colina was a pretty bold idea  :help
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2023, 12:54:55 AM
Colina was a free hit as a category B rookie. If it doesn't work out which it seems it has then we haven't lost anything.

As for the MSD, I'm fine with picking up a small forward as we need one. We've gone from having five in 2018 (D.Rioli, Castagna, Butler, Higgins & Stengle) to just one (Maurice) and with Maurice injured we're now left with trying to turn Mansell into a defensive small forward. What I'm questioning is us picking up another intercepting/rebounding defender. I'm not trying to knock Trezise but more asking if the selection is a sign that those in charge of our list are losing faith in the HBFers they've drafted in recent years?
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: FooffooValve on June 03, 2023, 11:52:14 AM
Colina was a free hit as a category B rookie. If it doesn't work out which it seems it has then we haven't lost anything.

As for the MSD, I'm fine with picking up a small forward as we need one. We've gone from having five in 2018 (D.Rioli, Castagna, Butler, Higgins & Stengle) to just one (Maurice) and with Maurice injured we're now left with trying to turn Mansell into a defensive small forward. What I'm questioning is us picking up another intercepting/rebounding defender. I'm not trying to knock Trezise but more asking if the selection is a sign that those in charge of our list are losing faith in the HBFers they've drafted in recent years?

I reckon it is more a case of going with someone who has been showing promise right under our noses. Let's face it, drafting is a crap shoot, and the mid season draft is even more of a crap shoot than usual. Have a look over the past MSDs - the hit rate is pretty low. So may as well go with what you know if they are showing something.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 03, 2023, 11:56:36 AM
Does anyone know how or why we lost Stengel??
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: The Machine on June 03, 2023, 11:59:38 AM
Does anyone know how or why we lost Stengel??


The offer from the Crows was exceptional- to good to refuse. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Willy on June 03, 2023, 12:01:26 PM
Agree MT.

Don’t mind the small forward pick but taking another back flanker was mind boggling to me.

Perhaps not the right thread but reaching for Brown over JVR will also prove to be a disastrously dumb decision. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Willy on June 03, 2023, 09:30:45 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.

Silly comment.

You can absolutely get quality players in the MSD and rookie drafts. .

The likes of Mihocek, Stewart,  Marlion and Newcomb were taken from state leagues.

Why not try to find the next Mihocek?

He’d be pretty handy in our team right near I would have thought.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 03, 2023, 09:44:16 PM
Grimesy

Pickett

Ash johnson

Dean Cox

 :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: FooffooValve on June 06, 2023, 08:01:02 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.

Silly comment.

You can absolutely get quality players in the MSD and rookie drafts. .

The likes of Mihocek, Stewart,  Marlion and Newcomb were taken from state leagues.

Why not try to find the next Mihocek?

He’d be pretty handy in our team right near I would have thought.

I didn't mention rookie drafts. There are numerous examples of good drafting there, not the least of those on our list.

There are fewer examples of hits in MSDs. If I'm not mistaken, mid-season drafts are different from rookie drafts, with a smaller pool of talent and less long term exposed form against like-for-like talent.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on June 06, 2023, 09:58:41 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.

Silly comment.

You can absolutely get quality players in the MSD and rookie drafts. .

The likes of Mihocek, Stewart,  Marlion and Newcomb were taken from state leagues.

Why not try to find the next Mihocek?

He’d be pretty handy in our team right near I would have thought.

I didn't mention rookie drafts. There are numerous examples of good drafting there, not the least of those on our list.

There are fewer examples of hits in MSDs. If I'm not mistaken, mid-season drafts are different from rookie drafts, with a smaller pool of talent and less long term exposed form against like-for-like talent.

Answer me. Why is the msd different to rookie drafts?? Both drafts you have an opportunity to take a kid who has been overlooked or a mature player who has been overlloked.

In both cases you have had extra time to judge them by especially with players who have been overlooked who are older. In a way clubs should not be getting these picks wrong.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: FooffooValve on June 06, 2023, 10:26:20 PM
Lol at people thinking we have missed Royce Hart in the mid season draft.

Silly comment.

You can absolutely get quality players in the MSD and rookie drafts. .

The likes of Mihocek, Stewart,  Marlion and Newcomb were taken from state leagues.

Why not try to find the next Mihocek?

He’d be pretty handy in our team right near I would have thought.

I didn't mention rookie drafts. There are numerous examples of good drafting there, not the least of those on our list.

There are fewer examples of hits in MSDs. If I'm not mistaken, mid-season drafts are different from rookie drafts, with a smaller pool of talent and less long term exposed form against like-for-like talent.

Answer me. Why is the msd different to rookie drafts?? Both drafts you have an opportunity to take a kid who has been overlooked or a mature player who has been overlloked.

In both cases you have had extra time to judge them by especially with players who have been overlooked who are older. In a way clubs should not be getting these picks wrong.

The mid-season draft is largely comprised of players that have been overlooked in every draft until then, so it's the "best" of the rest. It's not a fresh batch of rookies immediately after the ND. All I'm saying is the chances of finding anything other than a reasonable foot soldier or role player is lower than prior drafts in which these players have been available, hence the Royce Hart comment. And I'd much rather go with players we've had a good look at (eg in our VFL program) to increase the chances of a hit of some kind.

Not sure that is so controversial or "silly". Just making a comment about people getting their knickers in knot about addressing or not addressing clear holes in our list in a MSD. The trade period and national draft & rookie draft far, far outweigh the MSD in terms of how we go about fixing holes in the list.

That said, I wouldn't have minded Jai Newcombe! Reckon he is the pick of the MSD bunch over the past 3 drafts.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on June 06, 2023, 11:48:25 PM
The key difference about the MSD is you get a chance to fill a mid -season need.

Yeah we can go on and on about how they need to spend months learning our game strategy etc but seriously we need a KPF and it's not like leading, hitting a pack, taking and mark and kicking some goals is all that hard to learn all over when you move to a new team.

Jack is best, Lynch likely won't play again this year, Bauer has become a defender and Bradtke I don't know why we haven't played him tbh.

We needed a KPF, there was a mature rookie in good form, and instead we took another medium defender lol
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 07, 2023, 12:29:20 AM
Buller was the one for me, tall, agile, in form

Will be interesting to see how he goes at Sydney
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Willy on June 07, 2023, 09:58:57 AM
Mihocek was overlooked in multiple drafts so he absolutely could have been picked up in the MSD if it was around then.

The suggestion that there is no point trying to address list needs in the MSD because you are unlikely to get a good player is folly.

Quality players get plucked from state leagues all the time.

With that said, I dont mind the look of Coulthard. 
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on June 07, 2023, 10:36:44 AM
Mihocek was overlooked in multiple drafts so he absolutely could have been picked up in the MSD if it was around then.

The suggestion that there is no point trying to address list needs in the MSD because you are unlikely to get a good player is folly.

Quality players get plucked from state leagues all the time.

With that said, I dont mind the look of Coulthard. 

100% mate

There's plenty of talent - just need to find it.

I think MSD picks will get progressively better in coming years as clubs refine their selection process.

It really should become a very useful recruiting option for mid-season needs.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: JP Tiger on June 07, 2023, 10:37:58 AM
The biggest reason why the players taken in the MSD don't come into the side straight away is their fitness!  The level of fitness required to play AFL is magnitudes higher than the state level these players come from.  Learning the plays & tactics isn't such a big deal but you can't play a guy who can't run at elite levels for four quarters.  You can't 'pick up' fitness in a weekend of team meetings, it would take 6-8 months of intense training to get these recruits up to AFL standard and that's assuming they don't injure themselves trying to make the standard!  These guys would instantly stand out as massive liabilities if you threw them into the team.
Marlion Pickett would be a rare exception, but he was a mature age player who had done loads of running work that meant he was able to play (for one game) in his first year.   
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on June 07, 2023, 12:46:28 PM
The biggest reason why the players taken in the MSD don't come into the side straight away is their fitness!  The level of fitness required to play AFL is magnitudes higher than the state level these players come from.  Learning the plays & tactics isn't such a big deal but you can't play a guy who can't run at elite levels for four quarters.  You can't 'pick up' fitness in a weekend of team meetings, it would take 6-8 months of intense training to get these recruits up to AFL standard and that's assuming they don't injure themselves trying to make the standard!  These guys would instantly stand out as massive liabilities if you threw them into the team.
Marlion Pickett would be a rare exception, but he was a mature age player who had done loads of running work that meant he was able to play (for one game) in his first year.   

I'm sure there's a gap in F&C but don't see why you can't draft a key forward (not a load of running around). Any other position you could use your tactical sub to get them off or on.

Obviously the sub is an injury backup but all clubs tend to use it in the 3rd quarter regardless.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: JP Tiger on June 07, 2023, 05:31:43 PM
The biggest reason why the players taken in the MSD don't come into the side straight away is their fitness!  The level of fitness required to play AFL is magnitudes higher than the state level these players come from.  Learning the plays & tactics isn't such a big deal but you can't play a guy who can't run at elite levels for four quarters.  You can't 'pick up' fitness in a weekend of team meetings, it would take 6-8 months of intense training to get these recruits up to AFL standard and that's assuming they don't injure themselves trying to make the standard!  These guys would instantly stand out as massive liabilities if you threw them into the team.
Marlion Pickett would be a rare exception, but he was a mature age player who had done loads of running work that meant he was able to play (for one game) in his first year.   

I'm sure there's a gap in F&C but don't see why you can't draft a key forward (not a load of running around). Any other position you could use your tactical sub to get them off or on.

Obviously the sub is an injury backup but all clubs tend to use it in the 3rd quarter regardless.
Key forwards still do loads of running, around 8kms per match which is nowhere near the 14-16kms that midfielders do.  For some perspective marathon runners do 26kms in just over 2 hours. 
Lots of the running from KPFs seems pointless (up & back trying fill space at HB & then bolting back inside 50) but that is the style of game now. 
Playing a state league KPF because you just picked him up in the MSD would be an absolute liability by quarter time.  They will get found out in less than 10 minutes & be heavily exploited until you drag them off.  The moment an opposition side notice a player who can't keep up it will get very ugly, you are effectively a man down if one player just can't run! 
The stay-at-home forward is dead meat these days, even Tony Lockett (in the shape he presented himself in back then) wouldn't make it now.       
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2023, 10:11:41 PM
Jack Buller has five goals approaching three quarter time at Tramway Oval.

https://twitter.com/VFL/status/1667034830654308355

The Swans picked Buller up after our pick 13.





Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Andyy on June 09, 2023, 10:35:32 PM
The biggest reason why the players taken in the MSD don't come into the side straight away is their fitness!  The level of fitness required to play AFL is magnitudes higher than the state level these players come from.  Learning the plays & tactics isn't such a big deal but you can't play a guy who can't run at elite levels for four quarters.  You can't 'pick up' fitness in a weekend of team meetings, it would take 6-8 months of intense training to get these recruits up to AFL standard and that's assuming they don't injure themselves trying to make the standard!  These guys would instantly stand out as massive liabilities if you threw them into the team.
Marlion Pickett would be a rare exception, but he was a mature age player who had done loads of running work that meant he was able to play (for one game) in his first year.   

I'm sure there's a gap in F&C but don't see why you can't draft a key forward (not a load of running around). Any other position you could use your tactical sub to get them off or on.

Obviously the sub is an injury backup but all clubs tend to use it in the 3rd quarter regardless.
Key forwards still do loads of running, around 8kms per match which is nowhere near the 14-16kms that midfielders do.  For some perspective marathon runners do 26kms in just over 2 hours. 
Lots of the running from KPFs seems pointless (up & back trying fill space at HB & then bolting back inside 50) but that is the style of game now. 
Playing a state league KPF because you just picked him up in the MSD would be an absolute liability by quarter time.  They will get found out in less than 10 minutes & be heavily exploited until you drag them off.  The moment an opposition side notice a player who can't keep up it will get very ugly, you are effectively a man down if one player just can't run! 
The stay-at-home forward is dead meat these days, even Tony Lockett (in the shape he presented himself in back then) wouldn't make it now.       

It's the 2nd tier in the country man and you make it sound like the season premiere of the biggest loser lol
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2023, 01:45:59 PM
The biggest reason why the players taken in the MSD don't come into the side straight away is their fitness!  The level of fitness required to play AFL is magnitudes higher than the state level these players come from.  Learning the plays & tactics isn't such a big deal but you can't play a guy who can't run at elite levels for four quarters.  You can't 'pick up' fitness in a weekend of team meetings, it would take 6-8 months of intense training to get these recruits up to AFL standard and that's assuming they don't injure themselves trying to make the standard!  These guys would instantly stand out as massive liabilities if you threw them into the team.
Marlion Pickett would be a rare exception, but he was a mature age player who had done loads of running work that meant he was able to play (for one game) in his first year.   

I'm sure there's a gap in F&C but don't see why you can't draft a key forward (not a load of running around). Any other position you could use your tactical sub to get them off or on.

Obviously the sub is an injury backup but all clubs tend to use it in the 3rd quarter regardless.
Key forwards still do loads of running, around 8kms per match which is nowhere near the 14-16kms that midfielders do.  For some perspective marathon runners do 26kms in just over 2 hours. 
Lots of the running from KPFs seems pointless (up & back trying fill space at HB & then bolting back inside 50) but that is the style of game now. 
Playing a state league KPF because you just picked him up in the MSD would be an absolute liability by quarter time.  They will get found out in less than 10 minutes & be heavily exploited until you drag them off.  The moment an opposition side notice a player who can't keep up it will get very ugly, you are effectively a man down if one player just can't run! 
The stay-at-home forward is dead meat these days, even Tony Lockett (in the shape he presented himself in back then) wouldn't make it now.       

It's the 2nd tier in the country man and you make it sound like the season premiere of the biggest loser lol

Nope your wrong nothing to do with standards but everything to do with our reluctance to actually take talll fwds.
I mentioned Buller said a good mate was very impressed with him and mentioned it here my mate has shown himself to be very astute
With in the main wa kids.

Oh by the way wce are debuting Maric after just 1 wafl game for them.
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2023, 03:09:15 PM
Agree we should've taken a KPF but WCE had first pick so we were never getting Maric and they barely have enough fit players to field a side so not exactly hard to get a game with them these days... :shh
Title: Re: Who should we target in the Midseason draft?
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2023, 02:17:25 AM
The (un)luck of the MSD draw. The other key forward we overlooked.

ESSENDON mid-season recruit Jaiden Hunter could miss the rest of the season after a hot spot stress injury was found in his back.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/953991/essendon-bombers-recruit-jaiden-hunter-could-miss-rest-of-season-due-to-back-injury