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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 24, 2023, 01:42:17 PM
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RICHMOND
Current 2023 National Draft Picks: 24, 43, 61, 79, 97
The Tigers entered the draft at pick 49 last year and are without a high-end pick again this year. Their first-round pick is held by Greater Western Sydney, traded as part of the deal to get Jacob Hopper to Punt Rd last October.
Who to barrack against: The Tigers don’t hold picks linked to any other clubs at the moment.
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-where-your-club-stands-for-midseason-and-end-of-year-drafts/news-story/9f905c1edc21eb7df9b91f13c7d393b3).
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If we could snag another pick in that twenty region I'll be happy.
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If we could snag another pick in that twenty region I'll be happy.
Yeah just need a few under 30 and not spend them on skinny flankers.
Time for some big boys.
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If we could snag another pick in that twenty region I'll be happy.
Yeah just need a few under 30 and not spend them on skinny flankers.
Time for some big boys.
A Fiora MKII?
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The most pointless media clickbait ever!
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Can Carlton and Richmond fans dare to dream about landing generational talent Harley Reid in this year’s draft? Jon Ralph assesses the state of play and key trade contenders for pick no.1.
Richmond
The Tigers don’t have a first-rounder, they need more elite talls and any deal would start with West Coast asking for the newly contracted Shai Bolton – so it won’t happen.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-the-trade-offers-that-could-tempt-the-eagles-to-give-up-top-draft-prospect-harley-reid/news-story/1bced1dfb603c7480fdfec34272ca623
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The most pointless media clickbait ever!
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Can Carlton and Richmond fans dare to dream about landing generational talent Harley Reid in this year’s draft? Jon Ralph assesses the state of play and key trade contenders for pick no.1.
Richmond
The Tigers don’t have a first-rounder, they need more elite talls and any deal would start with West Coast asking for the newly contracted Shai Bolton – so it won’t happen.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-the-trade-offers-that-could-tempt-the-eagles-to-give-up-top-draft-prospect-harley-reid/news-story/1bced1dfb603c7480fdfec34272ca623
:lol :lol
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The fact that suggestion actually has some serious legs over at the shallow end of the gene pool aka Big Footy tells you all you need to know about it.... :shh
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What would it take to get pick 1?
Broad + Bolton?
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Hand them the 2020 premiership I’d imagine
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We're likely now to have our first pick in the early 20s. So, here's Kevin Sheehan's current top 30.
KEVIN SHEEHAN’S EARLY TOP 30 AFL DRAFT PROSPECTS FOR 2023
HARLEY REID
Bendigo Pioneers/Tongala FC/St Joseph’s Echuca
Date of Birth 18/04/05; Height 185 cm; Weight 85kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 152 points (3 games)
An exciting prospect, Reid excelled in the under-18 national championships for Vic Country last year. He played a mix of defence, midfield and forward roles, showcasing his versatility and earning him All-Australian honours. He also won Team of the Year selection in the Talent League, after finishing as runner-up in the Pioneers’ best-and-fairest award. Reid has continued that form into the early part of the season, with his bursts from stoppages and precise ball use both features of his game. He won the Australian under-18s best player award in the AFL Academy squad’s match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL team in April, collecting a team-high 22 disposals (14 contested), six marks and seven clearances in a very impressive performance. Reid has already had a taste of VFL football with Carlton to continue his development leading into this year’s national championships. He suffered a concussion in his second match for the Australian under-18 team in May.
NICK WATSON
Eastern Ranges/Montrose FC/Caulfield Grammar
Date of Birth 24/02/05; Height 170 cm; Weight 67kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 143 points (3 games)
A small forward, Watson is quick, agile and crafty and has a real appetite for the contest. He is a real jack in the box as well and gave a glimpse of his potential last year as he booted 23 goals across 10 Talent League and national championship matches as a bottom-age prospect. Watson has started this season in good touch, playing expanded roles through the midfield and in defence in his opening three matches in the Coates Talent League. He is averaging 26 disposals (9.7 contested) and has kicked five goals. He was also among the best players for the Australian under 18 team in a representative match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side as part of Gather Round in April. Watson gathered 18 disposals and kicked one goal that day, splitting his time between forward and defence roles. He again spent some time down back in the Australian under-18 team’s second match against Carlton’s VFL side in May, in which he had 10 disposals and kicked a goal before sitting out the last quarter with a minor ankle issue.
JAKE ROGERS
Gold Coast Suns Academy/ Broadbeach Cats FC
Date of Birth 02/03/05; Height 171 cm; Weight 68kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 136 points (4 games)
A tenacious livewire for the Suns Academy through the midfield, Rogers is a one-touch player with great vision and creativity. He was another player who performed well as a bottom-aged player with the Allies last year and has developed and matured further since then. He has averaged 26 disposals and 6.3 tackles in the Coates Talent League for the Suns and was one of the Australian under-18 team’s best players against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side in an exhibition match in April. Rogers went on to again shine brightly for the Australian under-18 team in its second match against Carlton’s VFL side in May, gathering 26 disposals and six clearances through the midfield claiming the medal as his team’s best player.
ASHTON MOIR
Glenelg FC/ Plympton FC
Date of Birth 15/04/05; Height 188 cm Weight 84kg
SANFL U18 Average Ranking Points: 112 points (2 games)
A medium forward who really caught the eye with his goal kicking and marking ability last year, Moir booted 34 goals in 2022 at club and representative levels. That included a haul of four majors against Western Australia in the last under-18 championships match, as a bottom-age player. His ability to kick the ball with precision on either foot, particularly with set shots for goal, is unique. Moir kicked four goals twice in opening four rounds of the SANFL this season, with one coming at under-18s level and one in the reserves. However, he has been slightly hampered by a hip injury in the early part of the year and is yet to show his full potential.
COLBY McKERCHER
Tasmanian Devils/ Launceston FC / Launceston College
Date of Birth 12/04/05; Height 181cm; Weight 72kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 146 points (5 games)
A left-footed midfielder with dazzling speed away from the centre of the ground, McKercher also has a penetrating foot. After a very promising season with the Devils and Allies in 2022 as a bottom-age player, he has taken another step this season. McKercher has averaged 31.4 disposals for the Devils and was among the best for the Australian under-18 team in its match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side in April. He also impressed in a second match with the AFL Academy side against Carlton’s VFL team in May, logging 20 disposals and three clearances through the midfield.
JED WALTER
Gold Coast Suns Academy/ Palm Beach Currumbin FC
Date of Birth 08/06/05; Height 194 cm Weight 91kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 156 points (4 games)
A strong and powerful tall forward, Walter took all before him at underage level last year. He won All-Australian honours as a bottom-aged player in the under-18 national championships and has reminded all of his strong marking and elite power and skill with a dominant performance in the Coates Talent League in Round 6. He kicked eight goals from his 19 disposals and nine marks against the Northern Territory that day and has averaged 18.3 disposals, 5.5 marks and 4.5 goals from his first four games overall this year. Walter has a real physical presence up forward, with his second efforts and tackling pressure being real features of his game.
DANIEL CURTIN
Claremont FC/West Coast JFC/Curtin University
Date of Birth 08/03/05; Height 195 cm; Weight 92kg
WAFL Colts Average Ranking Points: 115 points (3 games)
A left-footed defender of forward, Curtin experienced a frustrating run with injury last season before getting back to play in the Futures game at the MCG on AFL Grand Final day. He excelled for Team Houli with 22 disposals and nine marks in that match, winning best on the ground honours. Curtin’s agility, speed for his size and precise kicking were all features of his game. In the WAFL Colts this season he has also spent time forward and has averaged 16 disposals, 4.7 score involvements and a goal from three games.
ZANE DUURSMA
Gippsland Power/Foster FC/Foster SC
Date of Birth-28/08/05; Height 189 cm; Weight 79kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 119 points (4 games)
A mercurial forward or midfielder who reads the play exceptionally well, Duursma is strong overhead and deadly accurate around the goals. He has a clever step through congestion and is an elite athlete with his running ability. Duursma has shown enormous promise in the Coates Talent League over the past two years and earnt Team of the Year honours last year as a bottom-aged player. He started this year solidly with the Power, averaging 21.8 disposals and 2 goals from his first four matches. He also had a VFL opportunity with the Casey Demons in Round 6, where he logged 12 disposals. Duursma hails from a talented football family, with his brother Xavier and sister Yasmine on Port Adelaide’s men’s and women’s lists.
RYLEY SANDERS
Sandringham Dragons FC/ North Launceston FC/Melbourne Grammar
Date of Birth 21/01/05; Height 186 cm; Weight 85kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 152 points (3 games)
A strong-bodied midfielder, Sanders is looking to build on an extremely promising 2022. He was a member of the Sandringham Dragons’ premiership team last year and also represented the Allies as a bottom-aged player. Sanders has stepped up and shown himself to be a talented playmaker this year. He started the season in fine form with the Dragons, averaging 31.7 disposals and 5 tackles in the opening three rounds. He was also another one to catch the eye with a strong performance for the Australian under-18 team in its representative match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side backing it up in the second match against Carlton’s VFL side as he collected 24 disposals to be one of the side’s best.
DARCY WILSON
Murray Bushrangers/Wangaratta Rovers FC/The Academy
Date of Birth 18/08/05; Height 185 cm; Weight 73 kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 123 points (5 games)
An elusive and creative forward or wingman, Wilson covers the ground exceptionally well and has innate ability around goals. He is still developing physically but has had an impressive start to this year, averaging 20.6 disposals (8.6 contested) and 1.8 goals across his first five matches for the Bushrangers. Wilson was also among best players for the Australian under-18 team in its match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side in April, racking up 19 disposals and taking five marks. His running capacity was confirmed when he finished fifth among the Victorians in the YoYo test during pre-season testing in March with a score of 21.08.
KOLTYN THOLSTRUP
Subiaco FC/Newtown-Condingup JFC/Cunderdin Ag College
Date of Birth 28/06/05; Height 188 cm; Weight 82kg
WAFL Average Ranking Points: 60 points (5 games)
A talented player with an elite work rate, Tholstrup often plays as a high half-forward and sometimes goes through the midfield. He is a fearless competitor with excellent game sense and is a penetrating kick. Tholstrup played all four games for Western Australia as a bottom-age player in the under-18 national championships last year and acquitted himself well, averaging 13.5 disposals. He was also a strong performer in the Futures game on AFL Grand Final day with 18 disposals for Team Murphy. Tholstrup has a sharp competitive edge which has seen him already play five senior matches in the WAFL this season with a top team in Subiaco.
HARRY DE MATTIA
Dandenong Stingrays/Edithvale-Aspendale FC/SEDA
Date of Birth 11/09/05; Height 184 cm; Weight 77kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 106 points (6 games)
A midfielder-forward, De Mattia has elite speed and endurance which enables him to get up and down the ground to win the ball both at ground level and overhead. He brings real pressure for his team with his ability to run down tackle against the flow. A left-footer, he opened the Coates Talent League season in great form, averaging 17.8 disposals, 4.2 marks and 5.3 tackles across his first six matches. De Mattia is a dual sport athlete who has mixed his football with cricket. He has represented Victoria at underage level in cricket with distinction and ultimately will need to choose his sporting preference in due course.
ARCHER REID
Gippsland Power/Inverloch Kongwak FC/Bass Coast College
Date of Birth 19/09/05; Height 203 cm; Weight 85kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 101 points (3 games)
A tall forward who is an exceptional overhead mark, Reid is extremely mobile, good below his knees and has a natural goal sense which makes him a difficult match-up. After performing strongly for the Power last season – including kicking three goals in the preliminary final – he had an injury-interrupted start to 2023. However, Reid is now fully fit once again and is ready to show his undoubted potential in the national championships. Across three matches in the Coates Talent League this year he has averaged 13.7 disposals, 4.7 marks and 1.7 goals. Reid is the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach.
GEORGE STEVENS
GWV Rebels/ South Warrnambool FC/Emmanuel College
Date of Birth 14/04/05; Height 189 cm; Weight 94kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 148 points (5 games)
A medium defender who could become an inside midfielder in time, Stevens has returned to full fitness and form in the early part of this season after missing the entire 2022 campaign with an ACL injury. He reads the cues to intercept well when playing across half back, is a good decision maker and has a penetrating kick. Stevens has made his presence felt in the Coates Talent League, averaging 25.2 disposals (14.6 contested). He also racked up 31 disposals and four clearances in a Vic Country trial match in April and put his strong leadership on display as he captained the Australian under-18s team in their matches against SANFL and VFL sides. Stevens’ early-season form saw him rewarded with a VFL opportunity with Geelong in Round 6, where he logged 16 disposals.
MITCHELL EDWARDS
Peel Thunder FC/ South Mandurah FC
Date of Birth 02/06/05; Height 205 cm; Weight 86kg
WAFL Colts Average Ranking Points: 125 points (4 games)
A ruckman who stood out as a bottom-age player, Edwards led his state team as their first-choice tall in the national championships last year and impressed with his competitiveness and craft. Mobile and strong overhead, he also had a successful season at club level, starring in Peel’s Colt’s premiership win. Edwards has had an injury-interrupted run of late with a corked leg, but is now ready to have a big impact on this year’s under-18 national championships. He has averaged 13.8 disposals and 35.3 hit-outs across his four WAFL Colts games this year.
JACK CALLINAN
Tasmanian Devils/ Clarence FC
Date of Birth 07/10/05; Height 177cm; Weight 73 kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 125 points (5 games)
A clever small forward, Callinan has started the season on fire in the Coates Talent League. He has booted 16.3 across five games, while averaging 17.4 disposals. Callinan is quick and agile and has innate goal sense. He is the son of former Adelaide Crows and Tasmanian Devils (VFL) star Ian Callinan and looks to have inherited his father’s ball-winning ability and smarts around goal.
NATE CADDY
Northern Knights/Bundoora FC/Parade College
Date of Birth-14/07/05; Height 192 cm; Weight 91 kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 97 points (3 games)
A strong-marking forward with a vice-like grip overhead and an exciting natural leap, Caddy burst onto the scene last year and was quickly featuring for Vic Metro as a bottom-aged player who provided a lively, athletic target. He has kicked 23 goals in 15 matches in the Coates Talent League over the past two years, while also averaging 5.9 score involvements and 4.5 marks over that time. Caddy has a real physical presence up forward and gave a further glimpse of his potential with a bag of four goals from 20 disposals and six marks in a recent Vic Metro trial match. In a match for Australia’s under-18 side against Carlton’s VFL side in May he also caught the eye with his work in attack, finishing with 14 disposals, four marks and a goal. He has also featured for Carlton in the VFL this season, kicking two goals in a debut against Williamstown. Caddy is the nephew of two-time Richmond premiership star Josh Caddy.
JOEL FREIJAH
GWV Rebels/ Horsham Saints/Ballarat Clarendon College
Date of Birth 14/11/05; Height 191 cm; Weight 86kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 133 points (6 games)
A wingman who has real composure with the ball, Freijah is clean below his knees and distributes the ball very well. He has been in outstanding form in recent weeks. He produced a best-on-ground performance for the Rebels in Round 4 of the Coates Talent League, kicking six goals from 26 disposals while predominantly playing on a wing. Freijah backed that up with 35 disposals in a Vic Country trial in his very next match. He holds his width when playing on the wing, providing his team with an outlet option with its ball movement. However, he can also play inside, where he uses his vision and footy smarts to set up the play. A strong all-round athlete, Freijah ran a time of 2.98 seconds in the 20 metre sprint during pre-season testing.
RILEY HARDEMAN
Swan Districts FC/Caversham JFC/Edith Cowan University
Date of Birth 27/02/05; Height 184 cm; Weight 70kg
WAFL Colts Average Ranking Points: 130 points (2 games)
A left-footed defender with speed, Hardeman is strong overhead and takes ground with his long precision kicking. He impressed as a bottom-age player in under-18 national championships last year and has already debuted at senior level with Swan Districts this season and has gone on to star in the under-18s. Hardeman averaged 22.5 disposals across his first two Colts matches. He had a minor setback with concussion after that but is an exciting prospect on the horizon.
CLAY HALL
Peel Thunder FC/Harvey Brunswich Leschenault JFC
Date of Birth 12/05/05; Height 188 cm; Weight 83kg
WAFL Colts Average Ranking Points: 120 points (2 games)
A talented midfielder, Hall had a taste of under-18 national championships last year as he played one match on a wing for his state side. He went on to play well for the remainder of the season in a premiership winning Colts team at Peel. Hall has stepped straight up to senior level this year, playing three senior games in the opening four rounds in the WAFL. Featuring as an inside midfielder, he impressed across those three matches as he averaged 18.7 disposals. He is the son of former West Coast and Geelong forward Derek Hall, but is not eligible under father-son rules given his father played only two games for the Eagles and 74 matches for the Cats.
JORDAN CROFT
Calder Cannons/Maribyrnong Park FS/Maribyrnong SC
Date of Birth 12/05/05; Height 200cm; Weight 80kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 120 points (4 games)
A tall forward who is lightly-built but extremely athletic, Croft uses his mobility and height to create opportunities as a marking forward. He only fully focused on a potential AFL career last year after pursuing volleyball as his sport, before showing immediate potential for the Cannons. Croft provided a glimpse of his capabilities in a recent Coates Talent League match against the Northern Territory, where he kicked five goals from his 12 disposals and 2 marks. He followed up that performance with four goals for Victoria Metro against the Young Guns in a challenge match, with his speed and precise kicking being features of his game. He is eligible to join the Western Bulldogs under father-son rules given he is the son of former AFL star Matthew Croft, who played 186 games for the club.
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WILL PATTON
West Adelaide FC/ Mitcham FC
Date of Birth 04/01/05; Height 193 cm, Weight 81kg
SANFL U18 Average Ranking Points: 119 points (5 games)
A composed left-footed defender, Patton has grown a further 3cm in the past 12 months which has allowed him to play on both medium and taller opposition forwards. He uses the ball exceptionally well by hand and foot and sets up the play with his ball use. Patton made an excellent start to this year, averaging 21.8 disposals, 4.6 marks and 3.4 tackles across his first five matches at under-18 level. A state representative in cricket as a junior, he is now fully focused on a potential AFL career and is a member of the AFL Academy.
ETHAN READ
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin FC
Date of Birth 07/08/05; Height 202 cm; Weight 87kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 118 points (4 games)
A ruckman or tall forward, Read also looks capable of playing as a tall defender down the track given his skillset. He is a strong overhead mark and an excellent kick and also has the running capacity to cover the ground and win the ball in numerous situations. Read has been in great form for the Suns Academy in the Coates Talent League, averaging 20 disposals, 6 marks and 19.5 hit-outs across his first four matches. He is set to again play for the Allies in the under-18 national championships after impressing as a bottom-aged player last year.
WILL LORENZ
Oakleigh Chargers/Boroondara Hawks FC/Marcellin College
Date of Birth-19/02/05; Height 186 cm; Weight 70kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 116 points (2 games)
A lightly-built wingman or forward, Lorenz produced some eye-catching matches last year. In a Victorian Futures game against Queensland, he had 32 disposals and kicked three goals. He went on to feature for Team Murphy on the MCG on AFL Grand Final day last year and logged 24 disposals, nine marks and a goal to give a further indication of his undoubted potential. A left-footer who has good speed and a neat step through traffic, Lorenz had a disrupted summer due to injury but is now back on track. He played two of the first three games in the Coates Talent League, averaging 20 disposals (13 uncontested) and 6 score involvements. Lorenz is the grandson of former Hawthorn great Graham Arthur.
WILL BROWN
Sandringham Dragons/East Brighton FC/Kawana Park Eagles FC-Qld
Date of Birth-16/06/05; Height-194 cm; Weight 85kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 115 points (5 games)
A tall midfielder or forward who was a premiership player with the Dragons in his bottom-age year, Brown has been given the responsibility as captain this year. He started the season impressively, averaging 22.4 disposals (11.8 contested), 6.6 clearances and 0.8 goals per game from his first five games in the Coates Talent League after moving into the midfield. He is a player who is a strong contested ball winner and a one-touch player with terrific work ethic.
WILL McCABE
Central Districts FC/ Tanunda FC/ Sacred Heart College
Date of Birth 29/09/05; Height 197 cm; Weight 82kg
SANFL U18 Average Ranking Points: 112 points (6 games)
A tall defender who has also gone forward this year, McCabe is continuing to develop nicely. He won All-Australian under-16 honours last year after playing as an approved overage player in the national championships. Playing at under-18s level in the SANFL this season, he has made a very strong start to his year, averaging 20.7 disposals and 5.7 marks across his first six matches. McCabe is a very competitive player who has a good natural leap and is strong overhead. He is eligible to join Hawthorn under the AFL’s father-son rule this year, as the son of former Hawks star Luke McCabe, who played 138 games for the club.
COOPER SIMPSON
Dandenong Stingrays/Mt Martha FC/Flinders Christian College.
Date of Birth 13/02/05; Height 182 cm; Weight 76kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 106 points (4 games)
An ultra-professional midfielder with pace, composure and great finishing skills, Simpson also has a neat step through traffic and runs hard offensively and defensively. He has shown the ability to perform when challenged and in the big moments when the game is on the line. Simpson has started the season in good touch with the Stingrays, averaging 21 disposals (8.8 contested) in four matches. He then had the opportunity to play both with Casey in the VFL and against Port Adelaide’s SANFL team with the Australian under 18s, giving him an insight into the next level.
ARCHIE ROBERTS
Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers FC/Haileybury College
Data of Birth 18/11/05; Height 184 cm; Weight 77kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 101 points (3 games)
A left-footed halfback who is a penetrating kick, Roberts is a fine interceptor of the ball and uses his anticipation and clean hands to have an impact. He had an excellent season with the Dragons last year, including racking up 21 disposals in their winning Grand Final side. He went on to log 26 disposals on the MCG on AFL Grand Final day last year as part of the Futures game in another eye-catching performance. Roberts was also among Vic Metro’s best with 25 disposals against the Young Guns and showed off his clean ball handling and good kicking skills despite wet and slippery conditions. He was also good with 17 disposals for Australia’s under-18 team in its match against Carlton’s VFL side in May.
CONNOR O’SULLIVAN
Murray Bushrangers/ Albury FC/Xavier High School-Albury
Date of Birth 19/05/05; Height 198 cm; Weight 92 kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 120 points (4 games)
A tall forward or defender who has continued to mature physically, O’Sullivan has grown another 3cm and is a player developing his knowledge as a forward and a defender. He has an exciting natural leap, while good speed has been another weapon in his roles either end of the ground. O’Sullivan has been a consistent performer for the Bushrangers in the early part of the season, averaging 19.8 disposals and 7.5 marks in his first four matches. Being from Albury in NSW, he looks set to play with the Allies in the under-18 national championships.
NATHAN PHILACTIDES
Oakleigh Chargers/ Blackburn FC/Yarra Valley Grammar
Date of Birth 10/01/05; Height 181 cm; Weight 78 kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 82 points (5 games)
A left-footed defender, Philactides burst on the scene last year when he averaged 19.5 disposals across two matches for Vic Metro in the national championships as a bottom-aged player. Coming from an athletics background, he was once ranked in the top-five in the world in the 400 metres hurdles, so it was no surprise when he posted a quick time of 7.9 seconds in the agility test during pre-season testing. Philactides also caught the eye for Vic Metro in its challenge game against the Young Guns, racking up 25 disposals across half-back to finish as one of his team’s best players. He again put his impressive pace and agility on display that day, despite wet conditions. Across five Coates Talent League games this year, he has averaged 19.2 disposals and 6.2 rebound-50s.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-kevin-sheehans-top-30-prospects-from-across-the-country/news-story/9732add92cc0655631aca6d64ad5fe3c
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Shame we traded our first pick, that Jed Walter sounds alright, although we would probably draft a 180-187 mid or HBF anyway
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Go straight to the midgets and midfielders we don't draft talls.
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I’m losing faith , we keep recruiting back flankers with our Nat draft picks in the last couple of years and all of them are average to below average at this stage
We then recruit key position players as rookies and late pick and wonder why they are average
No wonder we have sold the farm on players from other sides as we can develop our own and don’t have a plan to rebuild our side and imo that’s what we need to do , and they can’t all be back flankers
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We've had a habit of poaching northern clubs' academy players in the National Draft. If the Suns make the finals this year then a few of theirs may be available.
AFL rules state a club can’t match more than two bids on academy prospects in the top 20 of a draft if, in that same year, it makes the finals and is eliminated prior to preliminary final weekend.
A club, too, is restricted to matching one first-round academy bid if it’s among the last four teams remaining in the finals.
Full summary of the U18s Champs and the top ranked draftees: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2023-under-18-national-championships-tv-broadcast-details-prospects-rankings-date-jed-walter-suns/news-story/fc065ef70076a3ee5aa3e5a1438fac05
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I’m losing faith , we keep recruiting back flankers with our Nat draft picks in the last couple of years and all of them are average to below average at this stage
We then recruit key position players as rookies and late pick and wonder why they are average
No wonder we have sold the farm on players from other sides as we can develop our own and don’t have a plan to rebuild our side and imo that’s what we need to do , and they can’t all be back flankers
Vickery & CCJ made our recruiters gun shy.... :shh
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Message to Recruiters; I get knocked down but I get up again , your never going to keep me down….. REPEAT 😁
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I’m losing faith , we keep recruiting back flankers with our Nat draft picks in the last couple of years and all of them are average to below average at this stage
We then recruit key position players as rookies and late pick and wonder why they are average
No wonder we have sold the farm on players from other sides as we can develop our own and don’t have a plan to rebuild our side and imo that’s what we need to do , and they can’t all be back flankers
Vickery & CCJ made our recruiters gun shy.... :shh
Vickery got us Bolton, genius move
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The only key forward listed in the Top 20 SA prospects by the Adelaide Advertiser.
14. Liam Fawcett (Central District)
Key forward, 18, 198cm, 87kg
RP: 104 (Under-18)
Fawcett has proven a difficult match-up for defenders – he’s hard to beat one out, terrific on the lead, and has the athletic ability to get up the ground and get his hands on the ball. The strong-marking tall has had 22 disposals or more in three of his eight under-18 matches this year and booted 18 goals, in a 213-ranking point display against West Adelaide, when he also recorded six score assists.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-south-australias-top-prospects-june-edition/news-story/8491417a66430abc31ccc957c6fc6202
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The only key forward listed in the Top 20 SA prospects by the Adelaide Advertiser.
14. Liam Fawcett (Central District)
Key forward, 18, 198cm, 87kg
RP: 104 (Under-18)
Fawcett has proven a difficult match-up for defenders – he’s hard to beat one out, terrific on the lead, and has the athletic ability to get up the ground and get his hands on the ball. The strong-marking tall has had 22 disposals or more in three of his eight under-18 matches this year and booted 18 goals, in a 213-ranking point display against West Adelaide, when he also recorded six score assists.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-south-australias-top-prospects-june-edition/news-story/8491417a66430abc31ccc957c6fc6202
Could double as a ‘tap’ ruckman🫣
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“My information is, and having watched some games already of the U18s, this is not a great draft,” Rendell told SEN SA’s The Run Home.
“I’ve watched the National Championships and I’m thinking there isn’t a whole lot of depth of this draft, so you don’t want to be having a whole lot of spots on your lists.”
Twomey instead suggested that while there was plenty of unknown for the upcoming draft, you can’t yet write off the talent.
“We don’t have that many tried and true midfielders in the first round this year, I think it’s a mix,” Twomey said on SEN Breakfast.
“We’ve got flankers, forwards, talls, some rucks and a couple of key defenders as well. Midfielders dominate draft years, the talls don’t generally, so that means that there’s a little more speck around them, but it could also mean they’re a little bit more special in the long run.
“I think what we’re seeing at the moment is a bit of a consensus on the top 10-12 and then it really opens up, which is generally the way around the mid-season… I like the top 10 though, I think there are some really good players in there.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/23/draft-experts-give-first-indication-into-quality-of-2023-class/
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We currently have picks 26, 45, 63.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/963218/indicative-draft-order-freo-slide-boosts-dees-trade-bounty
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Here's a Top 20 mock order from a draft watcher on BF: (our earliest pick is currently 26 unless we trade our way higher up the draft)
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/july-png.1734522/)
Top 15 is all pretty self explanatory for the names in there, amongst (respectable) amatuer watchers at the very least I don't think there's much variance in those names inside the top 15 at the moment. For mine, the top 4 have separated themselves from the following 10 or so, and at this stage I don't think there's much that could dislodge any of them, but of course others could push up in to make it a top 5/6/7/8/whatever. Harley is still number 1 for me as it stands, although I think it's valid for any of Walter, McKercher or Read to be there for people as well. The next lot is really tight, over the last two weeks I've probably had all possible combinations of the 5-11 group as my 'settled' rankings, all of them have some ridiculous positives and if you take an optimistic eye to the prospects, their best is worthy of being in the top 3. Wilson, Edwards, Croft and Freijah round out that settled top 15, none of them have really had anymore 'breakout' performances but have performed fairly consistently across state league/ champs games, with Friejah worthy of the special note that his repeated running efforts impressed me yesterday.
16-20 is more realistically a 16-30 at this stage, but I'm too stubborn to change from 20 to 30 so had to settle on 4. It's a group that isn't AS close as 5-11 in my eyes, but again that tier of prospects I can see the reasons for having in any order, with Luamon Lual, James Leake and Harry Demattia the 3 main guys that rotated in and out prior to settling on others.
Overall, as so often happens around the Champs, I'm more optimistic on the depth of this draft than I was a month ago and see some potential value pick ups into the third round, guys like Kade De La Rue, Lachie Charlson, Billy Wilson, Reece Torrent are a few I think are likely to last into the 40's that I'd be comfortable taking, but don't think the top end is as 'certain' as previous years.
Source: BF (https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2023-draft-thread.1348092/page-26#post-80038852).
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Top of the class, bolters and sliders: AFL draft state of play after champs
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-prospects-rankings-bolters-sliders-after-national-championships-stats-luamon-lual-western-bulldogs/news-story/51e1f87bd14058eaa9acc0f83e1a817e
Lengthy article but it reviews about 35 potential draftees. Likely some of them will still be available around at our first pick (in the second round).
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I feel a medium HBF is on the cards.
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Thought Caddy was a mid/fwd :huh
Could get him or Sanders if we do the GC deal - still reckon Sanders might slide due to his lack of pace though they said on FC(yeah I know) last night that Norf are into him apparently good mates with Sheezel and wants to go there.... :shh
I feel a medium HBF is on the cards.
Nathan Philactides is a Matt Clarke special if ever there was. :shh :shh
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AFL Draft 2023 power rankings: The top 30 prospects after national under-18 championships
The under-18 national carnival is over and the AFL Draft order is taking shape. See the bolters, sliders and latest intel in our top 30 power rankings.
Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
July 19, 2023
AFL DRAFT POWER RANKINGS - JULY
1. Harley Reid
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 185cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 19.5 disposals (12.5 contested), 4.3 marks, 6.5 clearances, 3.8 inside-50s, 2.5 tackles, 6.3 score involvements, 1.3 goals, 112 ranking points (4 games)
The No.1 pick fancy since the middle of last year hasn’t lost his spot after a strong national championships with Vic Country which saw him win the side’s MVP award. Reid entered the tournament a touch underdone following a lay-off after a concussion in May. However, he impressed with his work both forward and through the midfield. Reid has proven his versatility in a range of positions, but is best used as a midfielder-forward like Dustin Martin. He is a similar power athlete with core strength, a signature fend off, breakaway pace and silky skills. As it stands, the boy from Tongala is looking at a move to wooden-spoon favourite West Coast.
2. Jed Walter
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Forward, 195cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 13 disposals, 7 marks, 2.8 contested marks, 7.5 score involvements, 2.8 goals, 104 ranking points (4 games)
Some recruiters would select Walter ahead of Reid if they had pick 1 in this year’s draft, which is saying something. The power key forward was as eye-catching as anyone through the national championships, proving more than a handful for opposition defenders. Given his size and strength, Walter looks ready to go at AFL level and is expected to play some VFL football for Gold Coast in the second half of the year. Walter is still working on his goalkicking accuracy – which sat at 44 per cent during the national championships – but his competitive edge and will to defend are two areas of his game that he has already mastered. The Suns are certain to match a very early bid on their Academy prospect.
3. Colby McKercher
Tasmania Devils/Allies
Midfielder, 182cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 32.8 disposals (9.3 contested), 5.8 marks, 5 inside-50s, 7.8 ground ball gets, 4 tackles, 8.3 score involvements, 0.8 goals, 1.8 score assists, 150 ranking points (4 games)
Recruiters label McKercher as a “superstar” and don’t hesitate to peg him as a firm top-five prospect in this year’s draft. The Tasmanian has been described as a faster version of Essendon captain Zach Merrett and not only possesses speed but also has great agility, a damaging left-foot kick and elite decision making. McKercher has shown an ability to push forward and kick goals from the midfield this year, which is another trait that sets him apart. He was best afield in the Allies’ final match of the national championships against Vic Country, booting two goals to go with 33 disposals and nine clearances in a performance that attracted plenty of attention.
4. Ethan Read
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Ruckman, 200cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 21.5 disposals, 7.5 marks, 13 hitouts (3 to advantage), 2.5 clearances, 5.5 score involvements, 3 tackles, 0.5 score assists, 0.3 goals, 119 ranking points (4 games)
Read has been described as a “unicorn”, with players of his size, running ability and skills incredibly rare to come across. Allies coach Mark McVeigh likens Read to Geelong’s Mark Blicavs, who has featured as a ruckman, key defender and even midfielder across his AFL career. The Suns Academy product runs a 2km time trial in under six minutes, is a great kick of the ball, has a big leap, takes plenty of marks around the ground and rarely wastes the footy. All those attributes mean that, like Blicavs, Read could end up playing anywhere at the next level.
5. Zane Duursma
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 189cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 15.3 disposals (7.3 contested), 3.8 marks, 4 inside-50s, 2.8 clearances, 3.5 tackles, 6.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 1.8 goals, 115 ranking points (4 games)
Duursma left his best for last in the national championships, producing a monster final game for Vic Country which turned plenty of heads. Playing almost exclusively as a mid-sized forward, Duursma was at his damaging best as he recorded 15 score involvements, six score assists and kicked four goals from his 22 disposals and 10 marks. He finished with 191 SuperCoach ranking points, making it the second-highest rated game of any player during the tournament. The younger brother of Port Adelaide’s Xavier, Duursma has fans as the very pointy end of the draft given the sizeable X-Factor he possesses. He has high football IQ, is strong overhead, is an elite runner, has a nice side-step through traffic and is as dangerous around goals as anyone in this year’s draft class.
6. Daniel Curtin
Claremont/Western Australia
Midfielder/Defender, 195cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 23.5 disposals, 6.5 marks, 5.8 intercept possessions, 3.3 inside-50s, 3.5 clearances, 4.5 tackles, 3.5 score involvements, 0.3 goals, 137 ranking points (4 games)
Described as “ultra-professional”, Curtin caught the eyes of recruiters in the under-17 Futures match on the MCG on Grand Final Day last year. There he won the best-on-ground medal after a dominant display while playing as a rebounding defender for Team Houli. Curtin impressed while playing on power key forward Jed Walter in the first match of this year’s national championships, before being thrown into a midfield role across the rest of the tournament. He has great speed and agility for his size, rarely wastes a disposal and reads the play well. While Curtin is expected to begin an AFL career as a backman, he has shown enough to suggest he could become a tall, big-bodied midfielder in time.
7. Ryley Sanders
Sandringham Dragons/Allies
Midfielder, 186cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 35.8 disposals (14.5 contested), 6.3 marks, 5.8 inside 50s, 5 clearances, 4 tackles, 8.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 1 goal, 170 ranking points (4 games)
A prolific ball-winning midfielder, Sanders took out the Larke Medal as the best player of the under-18 national championships to follow in the footsteps of the likes of Will Ashcroft, Sam Walsh and Christian Petracca. Originally from Tasmania, he is a bull in the contest and has improved his fitness this year to become more damaging on the spread. Coaches rave about Sanders’ character, leadership and selflessness to bring others into the game. He gets to the right spots, is clean by hand and foot and is becoming more explosive with his movements, which has seen Sanders draw some comparisons to Port Adelaide’s Jason Horne-Francis.
8. Nick Watson
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Forward, 170cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 1 clearance, 7.3 score involvements, 1 tackle, 1 score assist, 3.5 goals, 97 ranking points (4 games)
What he lacks in height, Watson makes up for in pure footy smarts and skills. He was the leading goalkicker in the under-18 national championships with 14 majors – three more than Allies key forwards Jed Walter and Charlie McCormack. While small forwards aren’t normally picked high in the draft order, Watson is certain to be among the first dozen selections in November. He is quick, agile, reads the play well, uses his body to perfection in marking contests and has unrivalled goal sense. Watson kicked five goals in a half in Vic Metro’s national championships match against Western Australia and made the most of limited opportunities to boot four majors against Vic Country in the last game. He has also looked good playing as a rebounding halfback at stages this season.
9. Connor O’Sullivan
Murray Bushrangers/Allies
Defender, 198cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 17.8 disposals, 8.3 marks, 2.5 intercept marks, 6.8 intercept possessions, 4 spoils, 3 rebound 50s, 99 ranking points (4 games)
O’Sullivan’s stocks rose significantly during the under-18 national championships, with the Albury product bolting into top-10 calculations. He won the MVP award for the Allies, which says something given the top-end talent in that side this year. A strong-marking tall, O’Sullivan has played as both a key forward and a key defender over the past two years but looks best suited to a role down back. There he reads the play well, has an exciting leap, possesses the speed to go with opponents on the lead, is strong in one-on-one contests and backs himself to drop off an intercept when appropriate. O’Sullivan also has leadership qualities and was made captain for the Allies’ second match.
10. Jake Rogers
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 172cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 22.5 disposals, 5.5 clearances, 4.8 inside 50s, 2.3 marks, 6.3 ground ball gets, 5.3 tackles, 5 score involvements, 1.3 score assists, 0.3 goals, 108 ranking points (4 games)
Some clubs say that Rogers is the cleanest player they have seen coming through the talent pathways. A dynamic and speedy midfielder, he gets from contest to contest and has incredibly clean hands which allows him not only to pick up the footy but also effectively get it to teammates on the outside. Rogers’ vision and creativity are other features of his game, along with his leadership. He was best on ground with 27 disposals (13 contested) and six clearances in the AFL Academy’s exhibition match against Carlton’s VFL side in May, proving he is ready to step up to the next level. Rogers has drawn comparisons to Gold Coast’s Touk Miller, but has also been labelled “as clean as Caleb Daniel”.
11. Darcy Wilson
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Midfielder, 185cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 16 disposals, 2.8 marks, 1.8 clearances, 4.3 inside-50s, 3 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1 goal, 79 ranking points (4 games)
A wingman or high half-forward, Wilson can run all day. He finished fifth among all the Victorian draft hopefuls in the YoYo test during pre-season testing in March and has put that athletic ability on show on a weekly basis throughout the season. Wilson takes the game on, has good football IQ, has pace to burn off the mark, is a thumping kick and regularly hits the scoreboard. He booted two goals in two of his national championships matches for Vic Country, while also having high numbers of score involvements across the tournament. If there has been one knock on Wilson, it is his competitiveness. However, he has been working to improve in that area.
12. Mitchell Edwards
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Ruckman, 205cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 10 disposals (7 contested), 2 marks, 23 hitouts (8.7 to advantage), 2 clearances, 3.7 tackles, 0.3 goals, 94 ranking points (3 games)
The best pure ruckman in this year’s draft pool – if you exclude the versatile Ethan Read – is Edwards. He stood out as a bottom-age player in the national championships last year and backed up those performances as a top-age prospect this season. Edwards has impressive ruck craft, is a competitor, a strong overhead mark and quite mobile for his size. He still has plenty of development to come physically and from a running point of view, but looks near-certain to be a first-round draft pick regardless. Edwards was sorely missed by Western Australia in its last match of the championships, sitting out the match after suffering a concussion. However, he returned to the field for Peel Thunder in the WAFL Reserves on the weekend.
13. Nate Caddy
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Forward, 192cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 11.7 disposals (6 contested), 3.7 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 4.7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 2 goals, 78 ranking points (3 games)
Pegged as a potential top-five prospect heading into the year, Caddy has perhaps dropped a few rungs after a quieter than expected national championships with Vic Metro. He missed the first match of the tournament through illness, having had an interrupted start to the season following a broken fibula in pre-season. But he still has all the makings of a very good AFL player. A Carlton fan, the Northern Knights product looks up to Charlie Curnow and some similarities are there in the way he plays. He has a vice-like grip overhead and strong athletic traits including an exciting natural leap. Caddy plays taller than he measures in at as a forward but has also shown an ability to play as a big-bodied midfielder in the Coates Talent League. Against Bendigo Pioneers in Round 11 he split his time between midfield and forward roles and finished with 25 disposals and six goals in a best-on-ground display. He is the nephew of two-time Richmond premiership player Josh Caddy.
14. Koltyn Tholstrup
Subiaco/Western Australia
Forward, 184cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 18.7 disposals, 6 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 2 tackles, 6.7 score involvements, 1.3 score assists, 0.3 goals, 88 ranking points (3 games)
One of Western Australia’s best players across each of his three national championships matches, Tholstrup has left himself firmly in the frame to be a first-round draft selection. He missed Western Australia’s first match against the Allies with a back issue, but returned with a bang to log 21 disposals, eight marks and a goal against South Australia. Tholstrup generally plays as a high half-forward but can also have stints through the midfield. Tholstrup has a fierce competitive edge, is fearless in the contest, has excellent game sense, is a penetrating kick and has some real polish in his game. Hailing from Esperance in regional WA, Tholstrup has also proven himself against men this season, playing regular senior WAFL football for Subiaco.
15. Ollie Murphy
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Defender, 200cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 11.3 disposals, 4.5 marks, 2.3 intercept marks, 5.3 intercept possessions, 4 rebound 50s, 3.8 spoils, 1.5 tackles, 74 ranking points (4 games)
A first-round draft bolter, Murphy took out Vic Metro’s MVP award after an exceptional under-18 national championships campaign in defence. He had played as a forward and back-up ruckman in his bottom-age season last year. However, Murphy has taken to his new role as a key defender in 2023 like a duck to water. While still lightly framed, the Sandringham Dragons product is viewed as a “high reward” prospect given his ability to win the ball back, while he also kicks the footy well for a player of his size, is a strong runner and is ultra-competitive. Murphy was given some big jobs during the national championships – including on top key-forward prospect Jed Walter – and rose to those challenges.
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16. Riley Hardeman
Swan Districts/Western Australia
Defender, 185cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 18.5 disposals, 5.8 marks, 2.3 intercept marks, 4.5 intercept possessions, 6.3 rebound 50s, 1.8 tackles, 90 ranking points (4 matches)
A left-footed rebounding defender, Hardeman led from the front as captain of Western Australia during the national championships. It was well known entering the year that he had great speed and was a booming and accurate kick, but Hardeman has also been able to add another element to his game this season with his strong overhead marking. Hardeman played in a WAFL Colts premiership for Swan Districts in 2021, still aged 16. He has also been exposed to senior WAFL football with the Black Swans this season.
17. Will McCabe
Central District/South Australia
Defender, 197cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 11.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 4.3 intercept possessions, 2.3 rebound 50s, 3.3 tackles, 7.3 spoils, 95 ranking points (3 games)
Shaping as South Australia’s top draft prospect, McCabe was an All-Australian at under-16 level last year and has gone on to build a strong top-age season. The son of former Hawthorn star Luke McCabe – who played 138 games for the club – he is yet to officially nominate as a father-son for the Hawks but is expected to attract a first-round bid if he does. A tall defender, McCabe is a competitive player who has a good natural leap, is nice overhead mark and wins plenty of one-on-one battles. He is quite athletic, can play on talls or smalls and is an elite reader of the play. McCabe missed South Australia’s second match of the under-18 championships with groin soreness, but returned to play his best game against Vic Country with 19 disposals, six marks and six spoils.
18. Joel Freijah
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder, 191cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 2.8 marks, 0.8 clearances, 1.8 tackles, 3.8 score involvements, 0.8 goals, 60 ranking points (4 games)
An athletic wingman at a good height, there is a lot to like about Freijah. He is an elite runner, has a strong body, possesses great composure, is clean below his knees and kicks the ball beautifully. During pre-season testing, Freijah ran a time of 2.98 seconds in the 20 metre sprint to highlight his speed, while he also holds his width when playing on a wing. Freijah caught the eye of scouts across the competition when he was best-on-ground for the Rebels in a Coates Talent League clash against Dandenong in Round 4. That day he logged 26 disposals, six clearances and kicked six goals in a best-on-ground performance, playing primarily on one wing. While his national championships campaign with Vic Country wasn’t quite to that level, he remains in the frame to be a top-20 selection.
19. Archer Reid
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Forward, 203cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 8.8 disposals, 4.5 marks, 1 contested mark, 1 tackle, 5.5 score involvements, 1 goal, 63 ranking points (4 games)
The younger brother of Essendon defender Zach Reid, this towering Gippsland Power product plays at the other end of the ground. He is an exceptional overhead mark, reads the ball well in flight, is extremely mobile, good below his knees and has a strong natural goal sense. Reid was poised to make his VFL debut for Box Hill earlier this year but instead ended up going back to his local club Inverloch-Kongwak and booted 11 goals across two games in the seniors of the West Gippsland Football League. While he wasn’t able to string it all together during the national championships, he did impress early in Vic Country’s final match and finished with 8 disposals, 7 marks and 2.2. Reid isn’t ready to step straight into the AFL next year, but could provide a club with some serious long-term rewards.
20. Archie Roberts
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Defender, 182cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 20.8 disposals, 3.8 marks, 1 intercept mark, 4.3 intercept possessions, 6 rebound 50s, 3.5 score involvements, 1.5 tackles, 87 ranking points (4 games)
A rebounding halfback with a bit of swagger about him, Roberts hasn’t put a foot wrong across his various football programs this year. He finds a way to have an impact week-in, week-out and was a key part of Vic Metro’s backline across the under-18 national championships. The left-footer is a damaging and penetrating kick, while he is also an elite runner who loves to play on and run and carry off halfback to break the lines. Roberts has also become a fine intercept player, while still being accountable to his man. He had 21 disposals as a bottom-age player in Sandringham’s premiership side last season and caught the eye with 17 disposals in the AFL Academy’s exhibition match against Carlton’s VFL side in May.
21. Cooper Simpson
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 182cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 8 disposals, 2 marks, 1 clearance, 2 inside-50s, 2 score involvements, 33 ranking points (4 games)
A nasty corked thigh during Vic Country’s first match of the national championships sidelined Simpson for the rest of the tournament. But clubs haven’t forgotten about his talents and some still expect him to be a top-20 pick on draft night. The midfielder is a true professional and possess pace, composure, great finishing skills and a neat step through traffic. He works had both ways of the ball and has shown an ability to step up in the big moments as Dandenong’s captain. An AFL Academy member, Simpson played in exhibition matches against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side and Carlton’s VFL team earlier this year and has had a further taste of VFL football with Casey.
22. Nathan Philactides
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Defender, 181cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 17.8 disposals, 3 marks, 4.5 rebound 50s, 3 intercept possessions, 1.5 tackles, 0.5 spoils, 74 ranking points (4 games)
A former athletics ace who once ranked top-five in the world in his age group in the 400m hurdles, Philactides has some serious pace to burn off a halfback flank. His agility is just as impressive as his speed, with Philactides having ranked fifth in the agility test during Victorian pre-season testing this year. The left-footer describes himself as a “run and gun” defender who likes to tuck the ball under his arm, take off and then use his penetrating kick to further propel his team forward. Philactides, who was selected as a co-captain of the Chargers this season, looks up to similar players like Richmond’s Daniel Rioli and Carlton’s Adam Saad. While recruiters would like to see Philactides continue to work on his one-on-one defending, his weapons certainly excite.
23. Jordan Croft
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Forward, 200cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 9.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 1.7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1.3 goals, 68 ranking points (3 games)
Another year, another talented tall linked to the Western Bulldogs. Croft is the son of former Bulldogs key defender Matthew Croft but is making his name as a marking and goalkicking key forward and is available as a father-son prospect this year. Rival clubs expect a bid on Croft to come within the top-30 picks on draft night following a breakout season from the Calder Cannons product. While still lightly built, Croft is extremely mobile and athletic, leads well and marks the ball at the highest point, which makes him tough for opposition defenders to stop. Croft burst onto the scene with five goals against Northern Territory in Round 4 of the Coates Talent League and carried his form into the national championships, which started with three goals in Vic Metro’s first game against South Australia.
24. Koen Sanchez
East Fremantle/Western Australia
Midfielder-Forward, 176cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 17.8 disposals, 4.8 marks, 3.5 clearances, 2 inside-50s, 3.5 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1.5 goals, 102 ranking points (4 games)
A speedy half-forward or wingman, Sanchez has climbed up club draft boards on the back of an eye-catching national championships campaign for Western Australia. He had been playing significant midfield time in the WAFL Colts, but featured primarily across half-forward during the national championships and was able to show his forward craft, clean hands and ability to hit the scoreboard. Sanchez’ goalkicking accuracy of 35.3 per cent was the only thing that let him down during the tournament, but recruiters loved his speed, energy and lateral movement and believe he is ready to go at the next level as a high half-forward. Sanchez had missed matches with East Fremantle earlier in the season with a hip-flexor issue.
25. Ashton Moir
Glenelg/South Australia
Forward, 188cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 9.8 disposals, 3.3 marks, 3.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 0.8 goals, 66 ranking points (4 games)
Considering he entered the year as a top-three prospect, Moir has been a significant slider among this year’s draft class. But given his enormous potential and what he showed in his bottom-age year, the mid-sized forward is still a good chance to be snapped up within the top-25 selections in November. Moir is a unique X-Factor player who can comfortably kick with either foot and is able to impact both in the air and at ground level. But after kicking 30 goals across 10 SANFL under-18 matches last year, he hasn’t been able to back up that form this season. Niggling hip issues earlier in the year didn’t help Moir’s cause, leading into a national championships where he both he and his team struggled. But if Moir can produce some strong performances back with Glenelg in the back half of the year, he could climb back up the rankings again.
26. Logan Morris
Western Jets/Vic Metro
Forward, 192cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 5.3 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 0.5 tackles, 4 score involvements, 1 goal, 70 ranking points (4 games)
There was some surprise around Princes Park when Morris went almost unsighted in the final game of the national championships with Vic Metro. But there was a reason for that – he went into the game ill. The previous week Morris had put his full potential on show against Western Australia, logging 16 disposals, 11 marks (five contested), 12 score involvements and kicking 4.1 in a performance that was the talk of the town. At 192cm, Morris has been likened to St Kilda’s Tim Membrey given he is more of a second or third tall than a key forward. But he has a nice vertical leap which helps him compete against taller opponents and a strong pair of hands overhead. Morris is also capable of playing in defence and will be a close watch for a lot of clubs in the second half of the season.
27. George Stevens
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder, 189cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 19.3 disposals, 2.3 marks, 3.8 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 6.3 tackles, 4.5 score involvement, 0.5 goals, 115 ranking points (4 games)
A strong-bodied midfielder who has also spent time across halfback this year, Stevens has some clear strengths. Coming off an ACL injury which saw him sidelined for the entirety of 2022, he made an immediate impact slotting back into the fold at the Rebels in the Coates Talent League earlier this year. Stevens a contested ball beast, wins plenty of ground balls, is a penetrating kick, has clean hands, makes good decisions and reads the ball well when playing behind the ball. He’s also a natural leader who captained the AFL Academy in its match against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side in April. The one question mark over Stevens and his ability to play through the midfield is his lack of speed. That will means some clubs are less keen than others, but what scouts do know is they will be getting a quality person and true professional if they do pick Stevens.
28. Will Patton
West Adelaide/South Australia
Defender, 193cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 17 disposals, 4.8 marks, 1.3 intercept marks, 5.5 rebound 50s, 1.5 tackles, 4 spoils, 91 ranking points (4 games)
A composed left-footed defender, Patton captained South Australia’s team for the under-18 national championships and has drawn some comparisons to Hawthorn rising star Will Day. Patton has shown an ability to play on both medium and taller opposition forwards and not only reads the play well but also makes good decisions and uses the footy exceptionally well by hand and foot when he does win it back. A state representative in cricket as a junior, Patton has sharpened his focus on football in recent years but will be sidelined for the remainder of this year as he undergoes shoulder surgery.
29. Harry De Mattia
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 184cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 14.3 disposals, 2 marks, 5 inside-50s, 2.3 clearances, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 73 ranking points (4 games)
Another former junior cricket star who represented Victoria, De Mattia impressed recruiters during the national championships with Vic Country. He showed off his explosive speed breaking away from the contest, as well as nice agility, clean hands and his pressure game. De Mattia was also deployed in a different role in the backline during the final match of the tournament and didn’t look out of place. Dual-sport athletes have some added appeal to clubs given their ability to learn, which could enhance De Mattia’s prospects later in the year.
30. Clay Hall
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Midfielder, 188cm
U18 National Championships Averages: 27.3 disposals, 43.5 marks, 4.5 inside-50s, 6 clearances, 5.3 tackles, 3.5 score involvements, 111 ranking points (4 games)
A staple in Western Australia’s midfield across the under-18 national championships, Hall only bolstered his draft rankings with a strong tournament. A WAFL Colts premiership winner with Peel Thunder as a bottom-age player last year, he stepped up to senior WAFL football earlier this season and did not look out of place. Hall’s work ethic on and off the field stands out, he has a good balance with his ability to win the ball on the inside and outside of the contest and he uses his strength to win plenty of ground balls. He is the son of former West Coast and Geelong forward Derek Hall, but is not eligible under father-son rules given his father played only two games for the Eagles and 74 matches for the Cats.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-power-rankings-the-top-30-prospects-after-national-under18-championships/news-story/9739edaf94e1d80bb063de83a4056876
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Could get him or Sanders if we do the GC deal - still reckon Sanders might slide due to his lack of pace though they said on FC(yeah I know) last night that Norf are into him apparently good mates with Sheezel and wants to go there.... :shh
Norf trying to get the AFL to massively bend the rules so they can get Sanders for free via their NGA.
Roo connection in draftees
Top-ten pick Ryley Sanders has a strong connection to the Roos through his former Sandringham teammate Harry Sheezel which has strengthened his desire to get to Arden Street.
Sanders has proved he has Indigenous heritage, which will help the Roos’ submission to the AFL to put him in their NGA academy and potentially allow them to pre-list him ahead of the draft. It would require the league to bend its own draft rules quite significantly, but the Roos need draft help so it might as well be with a player who is keen to land at Arden Street.
Sandringham Dragons talent manager Mark Wheeler said the pair had become firm friends after playing together last year.
“He has a great relationship with Harry Sheezel at North Melbourne. Him and Harry really get along well and Harry reaches out each week,’’ Wheeler said. “He has had a fair bit of growth. His extraction skills are elite but he is really driving through traffic now. He reminds me of Jason Horne-Francis and he is modelling his game on him. He is a big strong boy and he stands up in the tackle.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/moneyball-the-latest-contract-updates-and-trade-news-in-the-afl/news-story/3f04e1276391cdb0b19aa01de4b0f19e
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking
1. Harley Reid ............... 17/04/05 185cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country Midfield/forward
2. Jed Walter ................ 08/06/05 195cm 94kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Key forward
3. Nick Watson ............. 24/02/05 170cm 68kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Forward
4. Colby McKercher ....... 12/04/05 182cm 76kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Midfielder
5. Daniel Curtin ............ 08/03/05 195cm 94kg Claremont/Western Australia Key defender/forward
6. Zane Duursma .......... 20/08/05 189cm 80kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
7. Nate Caddy .............. 14/07/05 192cm 91kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Key forward/midfielder
8. Ethan Read .............. 07/07/05 200cm 88kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Ruck
9. Ryley Sanders .......... 21/01/05 186cm 85kg Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons/Allies Midfielder
10. Connor O'Sullivan ... 19/05/05 198cm 92kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Key defender/forward
11. Jake Rogers ........... 02/03/05 172cm 69kg Gold Coast Academy/Broadbeach/Allies Midfielder
12. Darcy Wilson .......... 18/08/05 185cm 73kg Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
13. Jordan Croft ........... 12/05/05 201cm 80kg Calder Cannons/Vic Metro Key forward
14. Mitch Edwards ........ 02/06/05 206cm 88kg Peel Thunder/Western Australia Ruck
15. Will McCabe ........... 29/09/05 197cm 81kg Central District/South Australia Key defender/forward
16. Ollie Murphy .......... 16/09/05 200cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Key defender
17. Archie Roberts ....... 18/11/05 184cm 77kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Defender
18. Riley Hardeman ..... 27/02/05 188cm 80kg Swan Districts/Western Australia Midfielder
19. Harry DeMattia ...... 11/09/05 184cm 77kg Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
20. Will Green ............. 08/09/05 204cm 89kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Ruck
https://www.afl.com.au/news/981930/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-july-ranking
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Another Top 30.
AFL Draft 2023 Rankings:
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
July 19th, 2023
The top prospect remains the same — but the gap between first and second has closed in recent weeks.
Plus two father-sons feature in the top 16, while a wildcard Eagles prospect sneaks into the top 30.
Foxfooty.com.au presents its top 30 2023 AFL Draft Power Rankings after the national championships.
1. HARLEY REID Midfielder/forward 185cm Bendigo Pioneers/Tongala
2. JED WALTER Key forward 195cm Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin
3. COLBY McKERCHER Midfielder 182cm Tasmania Devils/Launceston
4. DANIEL CURTIN Key defender/midfielder 195cm Claremont/West Coast
5. ZANE DUURSMA Medium forward 189cm Gippsland Power/Foster
6. ETHAN READ Ruck/midfielder 200cm Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin
7. NICK WATSON Small forward 170cm Eastern Ranges/East Ringwood
8. RYLEY SANDERS Midfielder 186cm Sandringham Dragons/North Launceston
9. JAKE ROGERS Midfielder 172cm Gold Coast Suns Academy/Broadbeach
10. CONNOR O’SULLIVAN Key defender 198cm Murray Bushrangers/Albury
11. NATE CADDY Medium forward/midfielder 192cm Northern Knights/Yarrambat
12. OLLIE MURPHY Key defender 200cm Sandringham Dragons/East Brighton Vampires
13. MITCH EDWARDS Ruck 205cm Peel Thunder/South Mandurah
14. DARCY WILSON Medium forward/midfielder 185cm Murray Bushrangers/Wangaratta Rovers
15. JORDAN CROFT Key forward 200cm Calder Cannons/Maribyrnong Park
16. WILL McCABE Key defender 197cm Central District/Tanunda
17. ARCHER REID Ruck/key forward 203cm Gippsland Power/Inverloch-Kongwak
18. KOLTYN THOLSTRUP Medium forward 184cm Subiaco/Newtown Condingup
19. KOEN SANCHEZ Small forward/midfielder 176cm East Fremantle/Applecross Mt Pleasant
20. RILEY HARDEMAN Medium defender 185cm Swan Districts/Caversham
21. JACK CALLINAN Medium forward 179cm Tasmania Devils/Clarence
22. LUAMON LUAL Medium defender 181cm GWV Rebels/South Warrnambool
23. CLAY HALL Midfielder 188cm Peel Thunder/Harvey Brunswick Leschenault
24. GEORGE STEVENS Midfielder/medium defender 189cm GWV Rebels/South Warrnambool
25. WILL GREEN Ruck 204cm Northern Knights/Northcote
26. LOGAN MORRIS Medium forward/defender 192cm Western Jets/Werribee Districts
27. ARCHIE ROBERTS Medium defender 182cm Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers
28. COOPER SIMPSON Midfielder 182cm Dandenong Stingrays/Mt Martha
29. JOEL FREIJAH Wing 191cm GWV Rebels/Horsham Saints
30. LANCE COLLARD Small forward 179cm Subiaco/North Beach
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-rankings-afl-draft-news-2023-top-30-prospects-after-national-championships-harley-reid-jed-walter-colby-mckercher/news-story/928d6dc3e0097f3e32e3aeb1e99099f0
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Would love to get back into the first round via GC.
Make it happen tiges!
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Would love a key forward, as usual, so if we can get a pick for Nate Caddy that would be nice.
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FULL INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER AFTER ROUND 18
Richmond: 27, 46, 64, 82, 100
Adelaide: 7, 20, 25, 81, 99
Brisbane: 33, 52, 54, 60
Carlton: 9, 65, 67, 83
Collingwood: 18, 28, 74, 92
Essendon: 11, 30, 49, 61, 85
Fremantle: 21, 40, 47, 58, 78, 96
Geelong: 14, 88
Gold Coast: 6, 26, 29, 44, 45, 56, 62, 63, 69, 80, 98
GWS: 8, 10, 48, 66, 72, 84
Hawthorn: 3, 31, 50, 77, 95
Melbourne: 4, 15, 23, 34, 89
North Melbourne: 2, 17, 39, 53, 59, 76, 94
Port Adelaide: 37, 42, 73, 91
St Kilda: 13, 32, 51, 87
Sydney: 5, 22, 24, 41, 43, 79, 97
West Coast: 1, 19, 36, 38, 55, 57, 75, 93
Western Bulldogs: 12, 16, 35, 68, 70, 71, 86
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-indicative-draft-order-and-all-the-latest-news-from-around-the-country/news-story/039d6b360819765a7ac76547f2cfee0a
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This is The Age’s top 25 prospects after the AFL under-18 championships, compiled from extensive discussions with club recruiters and player agents. Fourteen of them earned All-Australian selection.
The task became more difficult from about pick 18 onwards, with little separation between the next tier of footballers and plenty still to prove before November’s draft.
1. Harley Reid ......... (185cm, 85kg, midfielder/forward, Vic)
2. Jed Walter .......... ( Gold Coast Academy key forward )
3. Colby McKercher .. (182cm, 86kg, midfielder, Tas)
4. Daniel Curtin ....... (195cm, 94kg, midfielder/key defender, WA)
5. Nick Watson ........ (170cm, 68kg, small forward, Vic)
6. Zane Duursma ..... (189cm, 80kg, forward/midfielder, Vic)
7. Ethan Read ........( Gold Coast Academy ruckman )
8. Ryley Sanders ...... (186cm, 85kg, midfielder, Tas) ...... Norf trying to get him for free :noway.
9. Connor O'Sullivan ..(198cm, 92kg, key defender/forward, NSW)
10. Jake Rogers ........( Gold Coast Academy midfielder )
11. Nate Caddy ......... (192cm, 91kg, key forward, Vic)
12. Darcy Wilson ....... (185cm, 73kg, wingman/forward, Vic)
13. Ollie Murphy ........ (200cm, 85kg, key defender, Vic)
14. Jordan Croft ........ (200cm, 80kg, key forward, Vic)
15. Mitch Edwards ..... (205cm, 88kg, ruckman, WA)
16. Will McCabe ........ (197cm, 81kg, key defender, SA)
17. Riley Hardeman ... (185cm, 80kg, defender, WA)
18. Koltyn Tholstrup ... (184cm, 80kg, forward/midfielder, WA)
19. Caleb Windsor ...... (184cm, 74kg, wingman, Vic)
20. James Leake ........ (188cm, 74kg, defender, Tas)
21. Logan Morris ........ (192cm, 90kg, key forward/defender, Vic)
22. Arie Schoenmaker .. (194cm, 89kg, defender, Tas)
23. Cooper Simpson .... (182cm, 76kg, midfielder, Vic)
24. Will Green ............ (204cm, 89kg, ruck, Vic)
25. Will Graham ......... ( Gold Coast Academy midfielder/defender )
As always, there are some unlucky omissions, with Koen Sanchez, Luamon Lual, Archie Roberts, Harry DeMattia, Clay Hall, Archer Reid, Nathan Philactides, Jack Delean, Will Lorenz and Joel Freijah among them.
Full write-ups here: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pick-by-pick-the-top-25-if-the-afl-draft-was-on-now-20230718-p5dp8i.html
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Every AFL club’s biggest list chasms… and stars they can draft to fix them
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
July 26th, 2023
RICHMOND
Current draft picks: 28, 47, 65
List chasm:
The Tigers could look to add some firepower and spark into their forward line. In a season predominantly played without 30-year-old Tom Lynch, Andrew McQualter’s side is ranked 12th in the competition for points scored and 10th for scores per inside 50 AFL #10 score per inside 50. Jack Riewoldt, 34, remains unsigned beyond this season, while Dustin Martin and Shai Bolton have consistently hit the scoreboard while also being asked to play significant midfield roles.
Ideal draft prospects:
Gun 192cm goalkicker and strong marker Logan Morris could be an option, while WA prospects Koen Sanchez and Koltyn Tholstrup — if he slides that far — would also be in the mix. The Tigers haven’t been afraid to draft talent from Western Australia in recent years.
The wildcard could be Glenelg forward Ashton Moir, who’s immensely talented but looming as one of this year’s big sliders. This time last year, Moir was being talked about as a top-five prospect, but it hasn’t clicked for the exciting and prodigiously talented forward at any level this year. If it clicks for him in the back-half of the year though, watch out.
The Tigers have also been linked to making a play for the Suns’ top-10 pick — as Gold Coast’s draft will revolve around its academy prospects. If the Tigers get their hands on that selection, it’d bring the likes of Northern Knights power forward Nate Caddy, Gippsland Power’s Zane Duursma and Eastern Ranges’ Nick Watson into play.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-prospects-picks-order-player-every-club-should-take-with-first-selection-rankings-mock-news-harley-reid-daniel-curtin/news-story/96e241847bf81c52c68557d11f0770d9
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Really hoping we can get our hands on that suns pick and land a quality young talent.
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Who are we sending up there that can land us pick 6, Slick Willy? Would surely take pick 27 + a good player.
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Apparently they're offering another salary dump deal like they did with Geelong last year - IE we take a fringe player off their hands -Fiorini is the one that's been mentioned- pay their salary and they give us their first pick as well for doing so. :shh
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Who are we sending up there that can land us pick 6, Slick Willy? Would surely take pick 27 + a good player.
They supposedly need more points to land their academy players. Our picks will give them that
Mr OE posted about it the other week
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They're also considering the other thing as well....apparently they still have salary cap issues... :shh
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Statistical profiles of the top U18s Coates League (formerly TAC Cup/NAB League) players at each position:
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-statistical-profiles-of-the-top-coates-league-players-at-each-position/news-story/ba9720476044c233af710dfe76982acf
ps. If you get the paywall, just refresh the page and quickly press the Esc key as soon as the article loads fully.
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Rival clubs aren’t happy the league could allow North Melbourne to land top prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing
Clubs have registered their anger with league chiefs, adamant Sanders – who is considered a top-10 talent – should be available to all clubs in the first round of the national draft.
Sanders has a link to North Melbourne through its next generation academy as the star ballwinner has Indigenous heritage.
Under AFL rules, players such as Sanders can be taken by any club which selects them in the top-40, but the league may make Sanders off-limits to rival clubs as part of a free hit to North.
The suggestion has caused uproar among clubs who are adamant the move is over-the-top for a club which already has a handful of top-end young midfielders including George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Will Phillips and Luke Davies-Uniacke.
“The integrity of the whole competition is at stake when you talk about a club getting one of the top-six players in the draft for nothing,” a recruiting manager said.
“Ryley Sanders was the best player at the national championships and should be available to all clubs if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the AFL rules.
“How can the AFL hand North Melbourne one of the country’s best underage prospects for free when it directly contravenes their own NGA rules?”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-rival-clubs-arent-happy-the-league-could-allow-north-melbourne-to-land-top-prospect-ryley-sanders-for-nothing/news-story/dc19166604b15a08f615aa12c22d9592
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Who are we sending up there that can land us pick 6, Slick Willy? Would surely take pick 27 + a good player.
The Suns will want picks that increase their total draft points so they can match any bids on their three academy players (all likely to go in the first round).
I posted an example a couple of weeks back.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=32375.msg751385#msg751385
This is issue now though is the higher we finish up the ladder and the lower the Suns do, the harder it will be for us to do such a deal.
Prior to this weekend's round:
Our picks were: 28, 47, 65, 83.
Gold Coast: 5, 25, 31, 43, 44, 56, 61, 62, 69, 79, 97.
Pick 5 is worth 1878 pts.
Whereas Pick 28 = 677 pts and Pick 47 = 316 pts. Any of our later picks are pretty much worthless (pick 65 is just 90 pts).
We would need to score a late first or at least an early second rounder in a trade with another club to make up enough points to make it worthwhile to the Suns and that's not going to happen. We could possibly trade for another second as well as swap our 2024 second for a 2023 second and package it all up but that's a lot to give up for a single first rounder.
Pick 28 = 677 pts
Pick 26 = 729 ......... our future 2nd swapped for a second rounder in this year's draft.
Pick 35 = 522 ......... traded player (eg: Graham to Port for their late second rounder)
Pick 47 = 316
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Total = 2244 pts
It will have to overs in terms of points to convince Gold Coast to do such a deal. This example still may not be enough (the Suns gain 366 pts ).
Our picks would then become: 5, 65, 83 ........ plus no second rounder in 2024.
Gold Coast would be left with: 25, 26, 28, 31, 35, 43, 44, 47, 56, 61, 62, 69, 79, 97
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Unless you add a player, say one with great potential, family in Queensland and not good enough to get a game in the seniors
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Callum Twomey on the AFL website explicitly mentions Melbourne, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Norf, Essendon, GWS and Dogs as having the best hands to trade for Gold Coast's first pick. No mention of us although he adds everyone is after it.
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We don't have enough draft capital to get it done. Unless we trade players out.
Maybe we get special compensation for losing Dimma.
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TIGERS SLIDE GOOD FOR SOME
Richmond’s late-season slide down the ladder has been good news for GWS, which currently holds two of the first 11 picks in this year’s draft.
The Tigers sat ninth on the ladder after round 14 and were still 10th after round 19, but have slipped to 13th on the back of consecutive losses.
The Giants hold Richmond’s first-round pick in this year’s draft, which has become pick 6 as a result of the Tigers’ fall.
FULL INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER AFTER ROUND 21
Richmond: 25, 44, 62, 80, 98
Adelaide: 8, 20, 24, 82, 100
Brisbane: 29, 48, 54, 60, 90
Carlton: 14, 63, 70, 88
Collingwood: 18, 31, 74, 92
Essendon: 7, 26, 45, 65, 81
Fremantle: 21, 40, 52, 58, 78, 96
Geelong: 10, 84
Gold Coast: 5, 27, 30, 43, 46, 56, 61, 64, 68, 79, 97
GWS: 6, 11, 49, 67, 72, 85
Hawthorn: 3, 32, 51, 77, 95
Melbourne: 4, 17, 23, 36, 91
North Melbourne: 2, 15, 39, 55, 59, 76, 94
Port Adelaide: 37, 42, 71, 89
St Kilda: 12, 31, 50, 86
Sydney: 9, 22, 28, 41, 47, 83
West Coast: 1, 19, 34, 38, 53, 57, 75, 93
Western Bulldogs: 13, 16, 35, 66, 69, 73, 87
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/draft-intel-all-the-latest-afl-draft-news-from-around-australia/news-story/9c8762d2f83488daa8c0382cda57d26c
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Pick 5 for 25 and 44 doesn't seem like a likely proposition.
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Pick 6 and 31 for Hooper got our 👖 pulled down.
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Pick 6 and 31 for Hooper got our 👖 pulled down.
We sure did, yet again but were a good club to deal with remember. What a calamity.
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I don’t understand how a call can be made that the trade was not good for us after barely one , injury interrupted season. Surely the time to assess the merits of this trade is at the end of Jacobs career.
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I don’t understand how a call can be made that the trade was not good for us after barely one , injury interrupted season. Surely the time to assess the merits of this trade is at the end of Jacobs career.
He will be never worth a pick 6 and 31 let's stop sugarcoating it. He isn't even in the league of Prestia, which we gave pick 6 for at his prime.
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Dees are :lol
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I don’t understand how a call can be made that the trade was not good for us after barely one , injury interrupted season. Surely the time to assess the merits of this trade is at the end of Jacobs career.
He will be never worth a pick 6 and 31 let's stop sugarcoating it. He isn't even in the league of Prestia, which we gave pick 6 for at his prime.
Sadly, I tend to agree.
Don’t begrudge the club for it necessarily but maybe we should have just gone with TT and kept some picks for young mids.
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I don’t understand how a call can be made that the trade was not good for us after barely one , injury interrupted season. Surely the time to assess the merits of this trade is at the end of Jacobs career.
He will be never worth a pick 6 and 31 let's stop sugarcoating it. He isn't even in the league of Prestia, which we gave pick 6 for at his prime.
this year injured, last year he was injured at the GWS.
I personally didnt think he was all that special at the giants.
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Some bad recruiting with our early picks in the last few years , so our recruiters may have wasted on a dud back flanker anyway
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Imagine we trade back in to the first round or top 10 even and grab another flanker...with blokes like Caddy & Sanders still on the board... :shh
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Unless we get a top 10 pick our record is generally abysmal in the draft.
Most of our wins seem to come from mature age recruits or outliers we somehow latch onto.
Trading our top players for draft picks is even worse than the opposite.
Personally I would stay on our current track, develop players in the VFL and play them instead of ignoring them over favourites.
Whoever is picking up these players that everyone else discounts is doing a good job. Is it the same person who makes trade decisions? Because whoever is making the National draft trade picks is poohouse.
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I don’t understand how a call can be made that the trade was not good for us after barely one , injury interrupted season. Surely the time to assess the merits of this trade is at the end of Jacobs career.
He will be never worth a pick 6 and 31 let's stop sugarcoating it. He isn't even in the league of Prestia, which we gave pick 6 for at his prime.
Sadly, I tend to agree.
Don’t begrudge the club for it necessarily but maybe we should have just gone with TT and kept some picks for young mids.
I think the gamble was that we'd finish top 8 and be trading pick 11-14 which might have slid due to bids anyway so pick 13-16.
Gambled and lost.
Personally I think we'd have done a lot better this year if Lynch wasn't injured and would be top 8 at the pointy end.
As for Hopper, I rated him highly at GWS. Still hoping and think it's possible he gets his body right and returns to his good form but 2023 hasn't been a good year for him.
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I think the gamble was that we'd finish top 8 and be trading pick 11-14 which might have slid due to bids anyway so pick 13-16.
Gambled and lost.
Personally I think we'd have done a lot better this year if Lynch wasn't injured and would be top 8 at the pointy end.
As for Hopper, I rated him highly at GWS. Still hoping and think it's possible he gets his body right and returns to his good form but 2023 hasn't been a good year for him.
Excellent post
Agree with all of it.
I've always rated a Hopper highly, just been a crap year injury wise, now concussion. Reckon we will know more in 2024
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' August ranking
1. Harley Reid ............... 17/04/05 185cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country Midfield/forward
2. Jed Walter ................ 08/06/05 195cm 94kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Key forward
3. Zane Duursma .......... 20/08/05 189cm 80kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (+3)
4. Colby McKercher ....... 12/04/05 182cm 76kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Midfielder
5. Nick Watson ............. 24/02/05 170cm 68kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Forward (-2)
6. Daniel Curtin ............ 08/03/05 195cm 94kg Claremont/Western Australia Key defender/forward (-1)
7. Ryley Sanders .......... 21/01/05 186cm 85kg Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons/Allies Midfielder (+2)
8. Nate Caddy .............. 14/07/05 192cm 91kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Key forward/midfielder (-1)
9. Ethan Read .............. 07/07/05 200cm 88kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Ruck (-1)
10. Connor O'Sullivan ... 19/05/05 198cm 92kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Key defender/forward
11. Jordan Croft ........... 12/05/05 201cm 80kg Calder Cannons/Vic Metro Key forward (+2)
12. Jake Rogers ........... 02/03/05 172cm 69kg Gold Coast Academy/Broadbeach/Allies Midfielder (-1)
13. Ollie Murphy .......... 16/09/05 200cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Key defender (+3)
14. Darcy Wilson .......... 18/08/05 185cm 73kg Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (-2)
15. Will McCabe ........... 29/09/05 197cm 81kg Central District/South Australia Key defender/forward
16. Archie Roberts ....... 18/11/05 184cm 77kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Defender (+1)
17. James Leake .......... 10/02/05 188cm 75kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Defender (new)
18. Riley Hardeman ...... 27/02/05 188cm 80kg Swan Districts/Western Australia Midfielder
19. Caleb Windsor ........ 09/06/05 185cm 74kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Midfielder (new)
20. Mitch Edwards ........ 02/06/05 206cm 88kg Peel Thunder/Western Australia Ruck (-6)
21. Archie Reid ............ 19/09/05 203cm 93kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Key forward (new)
22. Harry DeMattia ...... 11/09/05 184cm 77kg Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (-3)
23. Koltyn Tholstrup ..... 28/06/05 186cm 86kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward/midfielder (new)
24. Will Green ............. 08/09/05 204cm 89kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Ruck (-4)
25. Ashton Moir ........... 15/04/05 188cm 84kg Glenelg/South Australia Forward (new)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1009306/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-august-ranking
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Imagine we trade back in to the first round or top 10 even and grab another flanker...with blokes like Caddy & Sanders still on the board... :shh
Caddy looks a Charlie Curnow clone. He still kicked 4 on the weekend but if he had kicked straight it could have been 7-8 goals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF8mHHl0VFs
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Mutaz El Nour has been on the radar of clubs as a mid-season rookie option in recent seasons after impressing for Richmond's VFL side as an intercept defender.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1015900/mature-aged-vfl-trio-among-latest-invitees-to-draft-combines
Did we get him an invite to the State Combine?
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Would draft Yassine & Lefau before El Nour. :shh
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Top 40 prospects ranked and profiled as bolters and sliders emerge
Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
August 22, 2023
Less than three months remain until the 2023 AFL Draft.
Clubs continue to work round the clock towards finalising their draft boards for the big night in late November.
Here are the top 40 prospects from around the country as things stand in our August Power Rankings.
AFL DRAFT POWER RANKINGS - AUGUST
1. Harley Reid
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 185cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 19.5 disposals (12.5 contested), 4.3 marks, 6.5 clearances, 3.8 inside-50s, 2.5 tackles, 6.3 score involvements, 1.3 goals, 112 ranking points (4 games)
Clubs are desperate to get their hands on Reid, but the Kangaroos won’t be giving up the No. 1 pick if they hold onto it from here. The 18-year-old only enhanced his standing as he logged 24 disposals and six clearances in a VFL match for Essendon earlier this month. Bombers senior coach Brad Scott said after that game that “the hype is real” on Reid, labelling him a “very complete player”. The boy from Tongala has power, strength, speed, a big leap and some serious X-Factor in the forward half.
2. Jed Walter
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Forward, 195cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 13 disposals, 7 marks, 2.8 contested marks, 7.5 score involvements, 2.8 goals, 104 ranking points (4 games)
After the conclusion of the under-18 national championships, Walter was ruled out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. However, he showed more than enough in the first half of the year to keep himself at the very pointy end of club draft boards. A power key forward, Walter is likened to Carlton’s Charlie Curnow and hits packs, takes marks and kicks goals. But he is also incredibly good for his size when he doesn’t have the ball with his run and chase and willingness to defend.
3. Zane Duursma
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 189cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 15.3 disposals (7.3 contested), 3.8 marks, 4 inside-50s, 2.8 clearances, 3.5 tackles, 6.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 1.8 goals, 115 ranking points (4 games)
Clubs looking for some serious X-Factor at the pointy end of this year’s draft need not past Duursma, who has found some serious form in the second half of the year to move into top-three contention. A mid-sized forward who can also run through the midfield, he was best afield with 191 SuperCoach ranking points in Vic Country’s final match of the under-18 national championships and has had some more dominant games for the Power in the Coates Talent League since, including a six-goal haul against Bendigo.
4. Colby McKercher
Tasmania Devils/Allies
Midfielder, 182cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 32.8 disposals (9.3 contested), 5.8 marks, 5 inside-50s, 7.8 ground ball gets, 4 tackles, 8.3 score involvements, 0.8 goals, 1.8 score assists, 150 ranking points (4 games)
A prolific ball-winner, McKercher has been Mr Consistent this season and recruiters label him a “superstar” who looks a definite top-five pick in this year’s draft. The Tasmanian has had an impact in every game and at every level that he’s played this season and was one of the Allies’ standout performers during the under-18 national championships. A left-footer, he’s been described as a faster version of Essendon captain Zach Merrett. High wraps, indeed.
5. Daniel Curtin
Claremont/Western Australi
Midfielder/Defender, 195cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 23.5 disposals, 6.5 marks, 5.8 intercept possessions, 3.3 inside-50s, 3.5 clearances, 4.5 tackles, 3.5 score involvements, 0.3 goals, 137 ranking points (4 games)
A lot of clubs now believe Curtin is a top-five pick is believed to be in the sights of West Coast. Curtin has impressed playing senior WAFL football for Claremont over recent weeks, looking right at home with 21 disposals in his debut match. Described as “ultra-professional”, he has spent time both as a key defender and a midfielder this season. While Curtin is expected to begin an AFL career as a backman, he has shown enough to suggest he could become a tall, big-bodied midfielder in time.
6. Nick Watson
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Forward, 170cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 1 clearance, 7.3 score involvements, 1 tackle, 1 score assist, 3.5 goals, 97 ranking points (4 games)
Small forwards aren’t often taken as top-10 picks, but Watson might just buck the trend. A goalkicking dynamo with the nickname ‘The Wizard’, he was the leading goalkicker in the under-18 national championships with 14 majors from his three games. After the national championships, Watson returned to school football at Caulfield Grammar and continued kicking bags of goals on a weekly basis. He is quick, agile, reads the play well, uses his body to perfection in marking contests and has unrivalled goal sense.
7. Ryley Sanders
Sandringham Dragons/Allies
Midfielder, 186cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 35.8 disposals (14.5 contested), 6.3 marks, 5.8 inside 50s, 5 clearances, 4 tackles, 8.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 1 goal, 170 ranking points (4 games)
The AFL is yet to tick off Sanders’ eligibility for North Melbourne’s Next Generation Academy and hasn’t yet approved a draft assistance package for the Kangaroos. So for now, this talented midfielder remains on the open market and looks as a certain top-10 pick. Sanders took out the Larke Medal as the best player of the under-18 national championships after starring for the Allies. He was also a standout for Melbourne Grammar during the APS season. Sanders a bull in the contest and has improved his fitness this year to become far more damaging on the spread.
8. Ethan Read
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Ruckman, 200cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 21.5 disposals, 7.5 marks, 13 hitouts (3 to advantage), 2.5 clearances, 5.5 score involvements, 3 tackles, 0.5 score assists, 0.3 goals, 119 ranking points (4 games)
Far more than just a ruckman, Read has been linked to Geelong’s Mark Blicavs by his Allies coach Mark McVeigh. While he can ruck – and very well – the Suns Academy prospect could develop into a key defender or even a midfielder across his AFL career. He runs a 2km time trial in under six minutes, is a great kick of the ball, has a big leap, takes plenty of marks around the ground and rarely wastes the footy. Gold Coast has put a lot of work into Read over the years and he trained with the club last summer, while he has also had a taste of VFL football with the Suns in recent weeks.
9. Connor O’Sullivan
Murray Bushrangers/Allies
Defender, 198cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 17.8 disposals, 8.3 marks, 2.5 intercept marks, 6.8 intercept possessions, 4 spoils, 3 rebound 50s, 99 ranking points (4 games)
O’Sullivan’s stocks rose significantly during the under-18 national championships, with the Albury product bolting into top-10 calculations. He won the MVP award for the Allies, which says something given the top-end talent in that side this year. A strong-marking tall, O’Sullivan has played as both a key forward and a key defender over the past two years but looks best suited to a role down back. He has slotted back into defence with the Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League in recent weeks and has impressed, including in a big battle with Calder Cannons key forward and fellow first-round draft prospect Jordan Croft in round 15.
10. Nate Caddy
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Forward, 192cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 11.7 disposals (6 contested), 3.7 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 4.7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 2 goals, 78 ranking points (3 games)
Caddy’s form has been a little up and down this season, but the high-level talent he possesses is unquestionable and clubs are excited about what the future holds. Caddy looks up to Carlton forward Charlie Curnow, but has also looked good in some stints playing as a big-bodied midfielder this year. Caddy missed Vic Metro’s first match of the under-18 national championships with chickenpox but showed off his marking ability and kicked six goals across his final three matches of the carnival. Boasting strong athletic traits including an exciting natural leap, he has also had some big games for the Knights in the second half of the season, including 25 disposals and six goals against Bendigo in round 11.
11. Jake Rogers
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 172cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 22.5 disposals, 5.5 clearances, 4.8 inside 50s, 2.3 marks, 6.3 ground ball gets, 5.3 tackles, 5 score involvements, 1.3 score assists, 0.3 goals, 108 ranking points (4 games)
Some clubs say that Rogers is the cleanest player they have seen coming through the talent pathways. A dynamic and speedy midfielder, he gets from contest to contest and has incredibly clean hands which allows him not only to pick up the footy but also effectively get it to teammates on the outside. Rogers’ vision and creativity are other features of his game, along with his leadership. He was best on ground with 27 disposals (13 contested) and six clearances in the AFL Academy’s exhibition match against Carlton’s VFL side in May, proving he is ready to step up to the next level. Rogers has drawn comparisons to Gold Coast’s Touk Miller, but has also been labelled “as clean as Caleb Daniel”. He has had a taste of VFL football with the Suns in the second half of the season.
12. Darcy Wilson
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Midfielder, 185cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 16 disposals, 2.8 marks, 1.8 clearances, 4.3 inside-50s, 3 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1 goal, 79 ranking points (4 games)
A wingman or high half-forward, Wilson’s running ability is “ridiculous”. He finished fifth among all the Victorian draft hopefuls in the YoYo test during pre-season testing in March and has put that athletic ability on show on a weekly basis throughout the season. The running power allows Wilson to get to plenty of contests and while he has been playing mostly onball for the Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League this year, he looks perfectly suited to a wing role in the AFL. Wilson also takes the game on, has good football IQ, is a thumping kick and has been able to regularly hit the scoreboard throughout the year.
13. Jordan Croft
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Forward, 200cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 9.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 1.7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1.3 goals, 68 ranking points (3 games)
Will the Western Bulldogs pay up for yet another tall to add to their list? The son of former Bulldogs key defender Matthew Croft is making a name for himself in the front half of the ground after a breakout season and is a father-son prospect for the club. While still lightly-built, he’s extremely mobile and athletic, leads well and marks the ball at the highest point, which makes him tough for opposition defenders to stop. Croft has regularly finished with multiple goals in matches this year, including three in Vic Metro’s first match of the national championships against South Australia. He also went up against top-10 draft prospect Connor O’Sullivan in round 15 of the Coates Talent League and finished with 17 disposals, seven marks, 12 score involvements and three goals to further frank his first-round prospects.
14. Ollie Murphy
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Defender, 200cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 11.3 disposals, 4.5 marks, 2.3 intercept marks, 5.3 intercept possessions, 4 rebound 50s, 3.8 spoils, 1.5 tackles, 74 ranking points (4 games)
A relative unknown at the start of the year, Murphy has emerged as a first-round draft bolter after taking out Vic Metro’s MVP award following an exceptional under-18 national championships campaign in defence. He had played as a forward and back-up ruckman in his bottom-age season last year. However, Murphy has taken to his new role as a key defender in 2023 like a duck to water. While still lightly framed, the Sandringham Dragons product is viewed as a “high reward” prospect given his ability to win the ball back, while he also kicks the footy well for a player of his size, is a strong runner and is ultra-competitive. Murphy was given some big jobs during the national championships – including on top key-forward prospect Jed Walter – and rose to those challenges.
15. Will McCabe
Central District/South Australia
Defender, 197cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 11.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 4.3 intercept possessions, 2.3 rebound 50s, 3.3 tackles, 7.3 spoils, 95 ranking points (3 games)
Shaping as South Australia’s top draft prospect, McCabe was an All-Australian at under-16 level last year and has gone on to build a strong top-age season. The son of former Hawthorn star Luke McCabe – who played 138 games for the club – he is yet to officially nominate as a father-son for the Hawks but is expected to attract a first-round bid if he does. A tall defender, McCabe is a competitive player who has a good natural leap, is nice overhead mark and wins plenty of one-on-one battles. He is quite athletic, can play on talls or smalls and is an elite reader of the play. He has continued his good under-18 national championships form back in the SANFL under-18s with Central Districts.
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16. Riley Hardeman
Swan Districts/Western Australia
Defender, 185cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 18.5 disposals, 5.8 marks, 2.3 intercept marks, 4.5 intercept possessions, 6.3 rebound 50s, 1.8 tackles, 90 ranking points (4 matches)
A left-footed rebounding defender, Hardeman led from the front as captain of Western Australia during the national championships. It was well known entering the year that he had great speed and was a booming and accurate kick, but Hardeman has also been able to add another element to his game this season with his strong overhead marking. Hardeman played in a WAFL Colts premiership for Swan Districts in 2021, still aged 16. He has been exposed to senior WAFL football with the Black Swans this season, while also firing in the Colts.
17. Mitchell Edwards
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Ruckman, 205cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 10 disposals (7 contested), 2 marks, 23 hitouts (8.7 to advantage), 2 clearances, 3.7 tackles, 0.3 goals, 94 ranking points (3 games)
The best pure ruckman in this year’s draft pool – if you exclude the versatile Ethan Read – is Edwards. He stood out as a bottom-age player in the national championships last year and backed up those performances as a top-age prospect this season. Edwards has impressive ruck craft, is a competitor, a strong overhead mark and quite mobile for his size. He still has plenty of development to come physically and from a running point of view, but looks near-certain to be a first-round draft pick regardless. Edwards was sorely missed by Western Australia in its last match of the championships, sitting out the match after suffering a concussion. However, he has since returned to the field for Peel Thunder in the WAFL Reserves.
18. Caleb Windsor
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Wing, 184cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 15.8 disposals, 3.5 marks, 4.5 inside-50s, 3.5 tackles, 5.3 score involvements, 1.3 score assists, 0.3 goals, 82 ranking points (4 games)
A wingman with pace to burn, Windsor has been gradually climbing up draft boards across the course of the season to now sit as a potential first-round selection. He recorded a slick time of 2.91sec in the 20m sprint test during pre-season testing, while he also makes good decisions and uses the ball well by hand and foot. Windsor works hard and holds his lanes well as a wingman, but he also spent some time as an inside midfielder for Vic Metro during the under-18 national and impressed with his contest work. Windsor has impressed with his work at the Ranges in the Coates Talent League, particularly in the second half of the season after a foot injury impacted his start to the year.
19. Koltyn Tholstrup
Subiaco/Western Australia
Forward, 184cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 18.7 disposals, 6 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 2 tackles, 6.7 score involvements, 1.3 score assists, 0.3 goals, 88 ranking points (3 games)
One of Western Australia’s best players across each of his three national championships matches, Tholstrup has left himself in the frame to be a top-20 draft selection. He missed Western Australia’s first match against the Allies with a back issue, but returned with a bang to log 21 disposals, eight marks and a goal against South Australia. Tholstrup generally plays as a high half-forward but can also have stints through the midfield. He has a fierce competitive edge, is fearless in the contest, has excellent game sense, is a penetrating kick and has some real polish in his game. Hailing from Esperance in regional WA, Tholstrup has also proven himself against men this season, playing regular senior WAFL football for Subiaco.
20. Archer Reid
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Forward, 203cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 8.8 disposals, 4.5 marks, 1 contested mark, 1 tackle, 5.5 score involvements, 1 goal, 63 ranking points (4 games)
The younger brother of Essendon defender Zach Reid, this towering Gippsland Power product plays at the other end of the ground. He is an exceptional overhead mark, reads the ball well in flight, is extremely mobile, good below his knees and has a strong natural goal sense. Having been highly-touted entering the year, Reid had a quieter than expected start to this season but has found some greater consistency over recent months. He kicked 2.2 from eight disposals and seven marks for Vic Country in the final match of the under-18 national championships and booted seven goals from two games after returning to the Power in the Coates Talent League. While Reid isn’t ready to step straight into the AFL next year he could provide a club with some serious long-term rewards.
21. Archie Roberts
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Defender, 182cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 20.8 disposals, 3.8 marks, 1 intercept mark, 4.3 intercept possessions, 6 rebound 50s, 3.5 score involvements, 1.5 tackles, 87 ranking points (4 games)
A rebounding halfback with a bit of swagger about him, Roberts hasn’t put a foot wrong across his various football programs this year. He finds a way to have an impact week-in, week-out and was a key part of Vic Metro’s backline across the under-18 national championships. The left-footer is a damaging and penetrating kick, while he is also an elite runner who loves to play on and run and carry off halfback to break the lines. Roberts has also become a fine intercept player, while still being accountable to his man. He had 21 disposals as a bottom-age player in Sandringham’s premiership side last season and has impressed both with the Dragons and at school football with Haileybury this year.
22. James Leake
Tasmania Devils/Allies
Defender, 188cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 16.3 disposals, 5 marks, 2.3 intercept marks, 6.3 intercept possessions, 86 ranking points (4 games)
A medium-sized rebounding defender, Leake has bolted up draft boards this year. He was named on the bench in the All-Australian side after a strong campaign for the Allies at the under-18 national championships and has also had a consistent season for Tasmania Devils in the Coates Talent League. Leake has speed and power, as part of an impressive athletic profile. He is a strong interceptor and makes good decisions when he wins the ball back. Leake played across halfback in a Tasmanian State League premiership for Launceston as a 16-year-old last year and has also shown some ability at the other end of the ground this season. He has kicked seven goals from his past two games for the Devils playing as a marking forward.
23. Arie Schoenmaker
Tasmania Devils/Allies
Defender, 194cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 16 disposals, 7.5 marks, 426m gained, 4.5 score involvements, 1.0 goals, 77 ranking points (2 games)
A versatile player, Schoenmaker’s kicking ability has clubs excited. He is a penetrating kick who can break the game open from any position he plays. Schoenmaker missed 10 weeks at the start of the year due to a suspension for an off-field indiscretion, but has impressed at every level since returning. He featured in two games for the Allies, spending time on a wing and kicking 2.2 in a match against Vic Metro. With the Devils in the Coates Talent League he has primarily played across halfback, but he was also thrown in the ruck against Calder Cannons in Round 16 and impressed with his spread away from contest and kicking going inside-50.
24. Logan Morris
Western Jets/Vic Metro
Forward, 192cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 5.3 marks, 1.3 contested marks, 0.5 tackles, 4 score involvements, 1 goal, 70 ranking points (4 games)
While not a big key forward, Morris has been able to have a big impact on a lot of games this year. Likened to St Kilda’s Tim Membrey, he has a powerful set of hands in the air and has proven to be a regular and accurate goalkicker. Morris had a standout performance for Vic Metro during the under-18 national championships, logging 16 disposals, 11 marks (five contested), 12 score involvements and kicking 4.1 in the side’s third match against Western Australia. His stats averages for the tournament were brought down by a poor final game against Vic Country, though, which Morris went into after battling illness all week. While also capable of playing in defence, Morris looks most at home in the forward line and has kicked multiple goals in every game he has played for the Western Jets in the Coates Talent League this season.
25. Harry De Mattia
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder-Forward, 184cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 14.3 disposals, 2 marks, 5 inside-50s, 2.3 clearances, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 73 ranking points (4 games)
A former junior cricket star who represented Victoria, De Mattia impressed recruiters during the national championships with Vic Country. He showed off his explosive speed breaking away from the contest, as well as nice agility, clean hands and his pressure game. De Mattia was also deployed in a different role in the backline during the final match of the tournament and didn’t look out of place given he is a defensively-minded player who regularly lays plenty of tackles. Dual-sport athletes have some added appeal to clubs given their ability to learn, which could enhance De Mattia’s prospects later in the year.
26. Joel Freijah
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder, 191cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 12.3 disposals, 2.8 marks, 0.8 clearances, 1.8 tackles, 3.8 score involvements, 0.8 goals, 60 ranking points (4 games)
There are some knocks on Freijah about his willingness to go after the hard ball, but his strengths are clear to see. At athletic wingman or midfielder at a good height, Freijah is an elite runner, has a strong body, possesses great composure, is clean below his knees and kicks the ball beautifully. During pre-season testing he ran a time of 2.98 seconds in the 20 metre sprint to highlight his speed, while he also holds his width when playing on a wing. A round 4 game for the Rebels showed scouts the ability Freijah has got as he logged 26 disposals, six clearances and kicked six goals in a best-on-ground performance that day, playing primarily on one wing. He also had some nice moments for Vic Country during the under-18 national championships.
27. Luke Lloyd
Sandringham Dragons
Forward, 193cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: N/A
A late-season draft bolter, Lloyd missed selection for Vic Metro in the under-18 national championships after being sidelined for the early rounds of the Coates Talent League season with a quad injury that he suffered late in pre-season. However, he has drawn the attention of clubs since kicking 19 goals in a game for school team De La Salle in May, which followed a 14-goal haul in a preliminary final as a 16-year-old last year. A third-tall type of forward who also has the ability to play down back, Lloyd possesses an impressive set of hands in the air and works hard up the ground as a lead-up half-forward who links the play. When he does take a grab inside-50 he makes the most of his opportunity in front of goal more often than not. The Dragons rate Lloyd as one of the most naturally talented players on their list this year.
28. Cooper Simpson
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 182cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 8 disposals, 2 marks, 1 clearance, 2 inside-50s, 2 score involvements, 33 ranking points (4 games)
A nasty corked thigh during Vic Country’s first match of the national championships sidelined Simpson for the rest of the tournament. But clubs haven’t forgotten about his talents. The midfielder is a true professional and possess pace, composure, great finishing skills and a neat step through traffic. He works had both ways of the ball and has shown an ability to step up in the big moments as Dandenong’s captain. An AFL Academy member, Simpson played in exhibition matches against Port Adelaide’s SANFL side and Carlton’s VFL team earlier this year and has had a further taste of VFL football with Casey.
29. William Green
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Ruckman, 204cm
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U18 National Championships Averages: 12 disposals, 2.3 marks, 3 clearances, 24.3 hitouts (8 to advantage), 3 tackles, 4.3 score involvements, 100 ranking points (3 games)
A developing ruckman, Green was a former junior cricket star who only joined the AFL talent pathways with the Knights in 2021 and has rapidly improved since. A co-captain of the Knights this year, recruiters rate Green’s tap-work highly and believe he “could be anything” given his size and the sound fundamentals in his game. He is aerobically strong and is able to cover the ground well, while also being a good mark and a solid kick for a player of his size. Green was impressive for Vic Metro during the under-18 national championships, but his best game of the year came for the Knights in round 9 of the Coates Talent League when he racked up 22 disposals, 18 hitouts, six clearances and kicked two goals.
30. Ashton Moir
Glenelg/South Australia
Forward, 188cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_6JHROiVEa-.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 9.8 disposals, 3.3 marks, 3.3 score involvements, 1.5 score assists, 0.8 goals, 66 ranking points (4 games)
It hasn’t been Moir’s year at all, but a player who came into the season pegged as a top-three pick is unlikely to slide much further than this. Whether the pressure has got to Moir or there have been other factors at play is unclear. What we do know is he hasn’t reached his lofty heights of last season on a consistent basis, after booting 30 goals from 10 under-18 games for Glenelg as a bottom-age player. However, there is no doubting the talent that is there. Moir is a unique X-Factor player who can comfortably kick with either foot and is able to impact both in the air and at ground level. A club could snag a genuine bargain if Moir slips this far.
.... Continues next post ...
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31. Phoenix Gothard
Murray Bushrangers/Allies
Forward, 179cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_RdGO_vnrI_.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 10.3 disposals, 2.5 marks, 5 score involvements, 2.5 tackles, 1 goal, 67 ranking points (four games)
In the eyes of some scouts, Gothard is quickly moving up in calculations for this year’s draft. Hailing from Albury, the small forward produced an eye-catching under-18 national championships campaign for the Allies and ticks a lot of boxes. He can hurt opposition sides when he works into space with his lightning quick speed and impressive agility, but he can also take a nice mark in the air, is dangerous at ground level and competes well one-on-one. Gothard’s best game for the Allies was his last, when he had 11 disposals, three marks and kicked two goals. He has also had some big games for the Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League, including in round 11 when he racked up 20 disposals, three marks, 11 score involvements, 4 tackles and kicked 2.4.
32. Koen Sanchez
East Fremantle/Western Australia
Midfielder-Forward, 176cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_BaDvZqabHW.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 17.8 disposals, 4.8 marks, 3.5 clearances, 2 inside-50s, 3.5 tackles, 6 score involvements, 1.5 goals, 102 ranking points (4 games)
A speedy half-forward or wingman, Sanchez has climbed up club draft boards on the back of an eye-catching national championships campaign for Western Australia. He had been playing significant midfield time in the WAFL Colts, but featured primarily across half-forward during the national championships and was able to show his forward craft, clean hands and ability to hit the scoreboard. Sanchez’ goalkicking accuracy of 35.3 per cent was the only thing that let him down during the tournament, but recruiters loved his speed, energy and lateral movement and believe he is ready to go at the next level as a high half-forward. Sanchez has played some super footy for East Fremantle’s Colts across the year and has also featured for the club’s reserves in the second half of the season.
33. Caiden Cleary
Sydney Swans Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 182cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_4X6pUqSKWs.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 29.3 disposals (11.3 contested), 4.8 marks, 4.3 clearances, 6.8 tackles, 7.3 score involvements, 1 score assist, 129 ranking points (four games)
While he might not have the level of polish of some of the other midfielder’s in this year’s draft class, Cleary does know how to find the footy and plays with a lot of heart. He is a quality transition runner who has the ability to get involved in attack but also has a great wiliness to tackle and defend. His attack on the ball or any opponent who has got it is ferocious and Cleary is able to impact both inside and outside the contest with his run. He impressed during the under-18 national championships with the Allies and was named in the midfield in the All-Australian team. Cleary has since gone on to play some good VFL football for Sydney, including in round 20 when he recorded 22 disposals (12 contested), six clearances and seven score involvements against GWS.
34. Will Patton
West Adelaide/South Australia
Defender, 193cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_C2qq__F3xZ.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 17 disposals, 4.8 marks, 1.3 intercept marks, 5.5 rebound 50s, 1.5 tackles, 4 spoils, 91 ranking points (4 games)
Shoulder surgery following the under-18 national championships prematurely ended Patton’s year, but he had shown enough before the injury to suggest he would be in the frame to be a second-round pick. A composed left-footed defender, Patton captained South Australia’s team at the championships and has drawn some comparisons to Hawthorn rising star Will Day. He has demonstrated the ability to play on both medium and taller opposition forwards and not only reads the play well but also makes good decisions and uses the footy exceptionally well by hand and foot when he does win it back. A state representative in cricket as a junior, Patton sharpened his focus on football in recent years.
35. George Stevens
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder, 189cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_5ms3lPQ2ej.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 19.3 disposals, 2.3 marks, 3.8 clearances, 3 inside-50s, 6.3 tackles, 4.5 score involvement, 0.5 goals, 115 ranking points (4 games)
If this strong-bodied midfielder was a touch quicker, a lot more people would be talking about him. A lack of speed has been a major question mark from recruiters. However, Stevens is hard to ignore as a potential second-round prospect given what he does bring to the table. He’s been a consistent ball-winner at every level this season, since returning from an ACL injury which wiped out his 2022 campaign. Stevens is a contested ball beast, wins plenty of ground balls, is a penetrating kick, has clean hands and makes good decisions. He also displays great leadership qualities. Stevens was named on the bench in the under-18 All-Australian team following the national championships and has gone on to play some strong VFL football with Geelong. He racked up 29 disposals, five marks and four clearances in a round 21 match for the Cats.
36. Luamon Lual
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Defender, 181cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_y2stS0Xzd7.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 11 disposals, 3.3 marks, 2.5 rebound 50s, 4.5 intercept possessions, 2.5 tackles, 60 ranking points (4 games)
An athletic defender who has attracted increasing attention across the year, Lual is an excellent player in one-on-one contests and has also developed the offensive side of his game this year. He uses his body well in contests, has great timing, good closing speed and keeps his feet. When he wins the ball back he can then break lines with his speed and agility coming out of the backline. A member of the Rebels’ leadership group, Lual played a little higher up the ground in Vic Country’s final match of the under-18 national championships against Vic Metro and kicked a nice goal on the run from just inside the 50m line. Lual is tied to the Western Bulldogs as a Next Generation Academy member, but the Bulldogs would only be able to match a bid on him after pick 40.
37. Clay Hall
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Midfielder, 188cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_voaYcXTJS1.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 27.3 disposals, 43.5 marks, 4.5 inside-50s, 6 clearances, 5.3 tackles, 3.5 score involvements, 111 ranking points (4 games)
A staple in Western Australia’s midfield across the under-18 national championships, Hall only bolstered his draft rankings with a strong tournament. A WAFL Colts premiership winner with Peel Thunder as a bottom-age player last year, he stepped up to senior WAFL football earlier this season and did not look out of place. Hall’s work ethic on and off the field stands out, he has a good balance with his ability to win the ball on the inside and outside of the contest and he uses his strength to win plenty of ground balls. He is the son of former West Coast and Geelong forward Derek Hall, but is not eligible under father-son rules given his father played only two games for the Eagles and 74 matches for the Cats.
38. Jack Delean
South Adelaide/SA
Forward, 182cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_vhyTFe08F2.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 6 disposals, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 3.8 score involvements, 2.3 goals, 62 ranking points (4 games)
A dangerous goalkicking forward with “plenty of tricks”, Delean could be snapped up earlier than this after a strong second half of the year. His consistency was a problem earlier the season and during the under-18 national championships, when he kicked four goals in two different matches for South Australia but struggled to get near the ball in the other two matches. However, Delean has regularly had an impact for South Adelaide’s under-18s since the championships and has also kicked four goals across two senior matches in the SANFL. Across 11 under-18 games in the SANFL this season he has kicked 34 goals.
39. Will Graham
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 186cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_rCebjfG43y.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 16.5 disposals, 5 marks, 3 inside-50s, 2.3 tackles, 4.5 score involvements, 82 ranking points (4 games)
A fourth Gold Coast Suns Academy prospect who is set to come into calculations in the second or third round of the draft, Graham is an inside midfielder from Palm Beach Currumbin. However, he was instead used across halfback for the Allies during the under-18 national championships, after some solid early-season form for the Suns in the Coates Talent league. Graham is a good contest and clearance player who uses the footy well by hand and foot. Since the championships he has played some VFL football for the Suns, including logging 14 disposals, four marks and five score involvements against Sydney in round 21.
40. Zane Zakostelsky
Claremont/WA
Defender, 196cm
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1692608671832/image1_92g5H6_mAX.jpg)
U18 National Championships Averages: 7.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, 2.5 intercept marks, 4.5 intercept possessions, 2 rebound 50s, 1.5 spoils, 2 tackles, 64 ranking points (2 games)
An athletic key defender from the west, Zakostelbky has left an impression on clubs with some of his work down back this year and has emerged as a strong prospect. He played two games for WA at the under-18 national championships and looked particularly good in the second of those against Vic Metro. Zakostelbky was strong in the contest and took four intercept marks that day, while he has also shown good form for Claremont in the WAFL Colts. Clubs see plenty of potential upside in Zakostelbky given he has only played football for the past two years after focusing on basketball as a junior. He actually started the season in the ruck for Claremont, before moving into defence.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-top-40-prospects-ranked-and-profiled-as-bolters-and-sliders-emerge/news-story/8f22a442929810faad00ae24130b6a1f
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‘This kid’s got something’: Mutaz El Nour’s extraordinary journey from Sudan to the AFL draft
Former AFL player Brodie Holland will never forget the first time he saw Mutaz El Nour. PAUL AMY tells the amazing story of his journey from Sudan to VFL stardom and an AFL draft combine invite.
Paul Amy
HeraldSun
August 24, 2023
It was a miserable day, wet and windy.
“Like a blizzard,’’ Brodie Holland remembers.
Former AFL Docker and Magpie Holland was coaching Caroline Springs in 2019 and, ahead of a match against Western Region power Deer Park, injuries had set in at his club.
“We had no key-position players to pick so we thought, ‘What have we got in the Under 18s?’’’ Holland says.
“We had a tall young bloke who I didn’t know much about. We thought we’d have a look at him. So we put him in this day against Deer Park. He didn’t do much. But he took two brilliant contested marks. And I thought, ‘Geez, this kid’s got something’.’’
The kid was Mutaz El Nour.
He played five more senior games for Caroline Springs that season, and at the end of it Holland decided to point the Sudan-born youngster towards higher football.
Four years on, El Nour, 22, is a key part of Richmond’s VFL team and gaining interest from AFL clubs.
Last week the Tigers nominated him for the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell medal as the league’s most promising player.
And on Tuesday he learned he had been invited to the AFL’s state combine at Margaret Court Arena on October 8.
The 193cm defender was chuffed with both pieces of recognition and so was his family.
El Nour’s parents came to Australia via Egypt in 2005, settling in Braybrook, in Melbourne’s west.
He has three older brothers and three younger sisters; he is the young man in the middle.
“They’re very happy,’’ El Nour says of his parents. “There are much better circumstances here in Australia than over in Sudan. Their main reason for getting us out of Sudan was to give us kids an education and more opportunities in life. We’re grateful for it.’’
He says they are “very proud’’ of his progress in football and have given him great encouragement.
Often they cannot get to games because of their weekend work.
They follow the live streams, clueless about the rules, but switched on to their son’s every possession.
“You often see with Sudanese parents, they’re always wanting their children to become doctors or lawyers or something like that,’’ El Nour says.
“But my parents have been so supportive in me going in a different path with sport. As long as I’m happy, they’re happy.’’
El Nour was named after one of his father’s favourite soccer players in Sudan, Mutaz Kabair.
He played a bit of soccer but followed his brother Amar into football at Albion juniors, keen to make new friends as much as pick up a new sport.
His under-age years also took in stops at Deer Park, St Alban’s and, from Under 16s, Caroline Springs; he changed clubs either to be with mates from school or because he could get a lift to and from training and games.
In 2019, the Western Bulldogs included him in their Next Generation Academy, ahead of those first few senior matches at Caroline Springs that made such a good impression on Holland.
Holland put in a word for El Nour with Collingwood VFL officials.
After having one scratch match for the Pies, he was overlooked for the list for the 2020 season (because of Covid, it never heard a starting siren anyway).
Later, Holland made contact with Grant King at the Northern Bullants, where El Nour was quickly contracted for 2021.
The season was eventually called off. But by then the right-footer, combining football with work as a bricklayer, had come to notice with his cool intercept marking and clever kicking from half back.
He could read the ball, wherever it was to fall.
The Ants awarded him their Kane Lambert medal as the club’s “rising star’’.
He was also placed on the Western Jets’ NAB League list as an over-age player.
Last year El Nour was touted as one of the VFL’s best hopes for the mid-season, national and rookie drafts.
Josh Fraser, under whom he made his start at the Bullants, gave him some lift-off.
“From day one, he impressed everyone. Apart from his talent, his commitment – I don’t think he missed a training session – and he was working full-time and travelling across from the western suburbs to Bundoora or Bulleen,’’ Fraser, now coaching Collingwood’s VFL team, said.
“His athletic attributes, his ability to jump and read the play and intercept the ball really shone early and he impressed everyone with his work ethic and want to get better.”
He added: “Taz’ is the sort of guy who would thrive in a full-time environment. He’s got all the characteristics you’d want, and once he gets that opportunity he’ll take his game to a new level again.’’
Disappointed to miss out on the drafts, El Nour headed to Richmond.
It was nothing against the Bullants, he stresses.
“Just for the football development side of things,’’ he says. “With the facilities and the AFL coaches involved in the VFL program, I thought it could help take my game to another level, improve that little bit.’’
The Tigers think he has done just that.
Club general manager Oliver Grant notes that whereas El Nour caught attention with his attacking, intercepting ways at the Ants, he’s adapted to a more specific role at Punt Rd.
Grant lists El Nour’s reach, closing speed, versatility and competitiveness as his strengths.
“If his football with us has shown me one thing, it’s that he can actually play on a key forward and compete with him one-on-one,’’ Grant says. “I didn’t know if he had that in him. I can say now he does.’’
El Nour responds: “I think at the Bullants I mainly focused on the offensive side. This year I’ve taken on that full-back role and taken the key forward every week. Defensively, I’ve improved a lot.’’
His fitness has also picked up, he says.
It showed when he suffered a knee injury and missed three mid-season games.
When he returned, it was as if he’d never been out.
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Mutaz El Nour not only plays for Richmond, he works for the club, with the Bachar Houli Foundation.
He started as a casual last year and is now full-time, co-ordinating its various football and leadership programs at the club and in schools.
“It’s unreal,’’ he says. “I love it. It doesn’t feel like a job.’’
He had participated in the academy and says it helped develop as a person as much as a player. Now he sees himself as a role model in the Muslim community.
“Football aside, he’s just been the greatest addition to our program in terms of culture and leadership,’’ Grant says of El Nour.
“He’s probably exceeded our expectations from that point of view.’’
Holland has stayed in touch with “Taz’’ since his move to the VFL and is pleased to see him kicking on.
“He’s a beauty,’’ he says. “He’s a good size, he’s mobile enough, he’s quick enough, he’s got really good footy IQ, he’s a good kick, a good decision-maker.
“There’s a fair bit to like about him.’’
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/state-leagues/this-kids-got-something-mutaz-el-nours-extraordinary-journey-from-sudan-to-the-afl-draft/news-story/f4caf546786c0ebe5b16dbb659d77b18
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Season over and we've finished 13th.
So, our picks are 25, 44, 62, 80, ...
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Given we have Brown and Trezies along with Broad and Grimes next year, thoughts on trading Vlastuin the old champ? We would get back into the first round of the draft.
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Given we have Brown and Trezies along with Broad and Grimes next year, thoughts on trading Vlastuin the old champ? We would get back into the first round of the draft.
I know he won't but Dylan should retire
And no I wouldn’t trade Vlastuin
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Given we have Brown and Trezies along with Broad and Grimes next year, thoughts on trading Vlastuin the old champ? We would get back into the first round of the draft.
I've had the same thoughts but I'd prefer to trade many players before vlastuin imo including bolton, broad, graham, kmac, soldo
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Given we have Brown and Trezies along with Broad and Grimes next year, thoughts on trading Vlastuin the old champ? We would get back into the first round of the draft.
The “old champ” isn’t worth a first rounder
The word “old” is the reason itself
You guys need to be realistic about player value
Keeping that in mind , no, I wouldn’t trade him .. but if absurdly a first rounder was available, then yes, absolutely I would
Side note, agree with Simonstor, I’d be shopping others before Vlas
Soldo, Kmac, Graham etc
You’ve been into Vlas all year , yet Graham has never been mentioned.. wonder why lol
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AFL Draft 2023: Who your could club could consider with their first pick
Chris Cavanagh, Dan Batten and Jordan Pinto
HeraldSun
30 August 2023
RICHMOND
Current Indicative Draft Order: 25, 44, 62, 80, 98
The Tigers’ first selection is most likely to be pushed to at least pick 29 after some early Academy and father-son bids are matches. It is unclear who will still be on the board at that stage, but a key forward would surely be on the shopping list after the retirement of Jack Riewoldt. Players like Victorian trio Archer Reid, Logan Morris and Luke Lloyd would all fit that bill if they made it through to Richmond’s pick. However, the Tigers would look to another position if a player they rated higher slipped through after being a potential first-round or early second-round selection.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-who-your-could-club-could-consider-with-their-first-pick/news-story/a822d2c8b2765f678794f013999f2591
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Darcy Wilson (ranked mid-first round in the phantom drafts) spoke the other day about training for a week with Richmond during our last preseason.
Watch here:https://www.tiktok.com/@primetrain/video/7272676605573565704
or
Go to 18:45 min mark here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKAJyq2qTXw
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AFL Draft Power Rankings: August 2023
Michael Alvaro
central.rookieme.com
August 28, 2023
THE AFL Draft Power Rankings are back for another month, with our list of 30 prospects continuing to shuffle by the week. Recent combine invites have further narrowed the crop, though it remains a relatively even bunch past the consensus first-rounders.
In the August edition, a new challenger enters the top five, while two title-winning Allies teammates have snuck into the top 30 for the first time this year. See who made the cut, and keep updated on our changes each week in the Rolling Rankings.
THE POWER RANKINGS
#1 Harley Reid BENDIGO PIONEERS | MIDFIELDER Height:185cm Weight:85kg D.O.B:17-04-2005
#2 Jed Walter SUNS ACADEMY | KEY FORWARD Height:195cm Weight:91kg D.O.B:08-06-2005
#3 Colby McKercher TASMANIA DEVILS | MIDFIELDER Height:181cm Weight:73kg D.O.B:12-04-2005
#4 Zane Duursma GIPPSLAND POWER | FORWARD Height:189cm Weight:79kg D.O.B:28-08-2005
#5 Daniel Curtin CLAREMONT | UTILITY Height:195cm Weight:93kg D.O.B:08-03-2005
#6 Nick Watson EASTERN RANGES | SMALL FORWARD Height:170cm Weight:67kg D.O.B:24-02-2005
#7 Ethan Read SUNS ACADEMY | RUCK Height:202cm Weight:87kg D.O.B:07-07-2005
#8 Ryley Sanders SANDY DRAGONS | MIDFIELDER Height:186cm Weight:85kg D.O.B:21-01-2005
#9 Connor O'Sullivan MURRAY B'RNGRS | KEY DEFENDER Height:198cm Weight:92kg D.O.B:19-05-2005
#10 Nate Caddy NORTHERN KNIGHTS | TALL FORWARD Height:192cm Weight:91kg D.O.B:14-07-2005
#11 Darcy Wilson MURRAY BUSHRANGERS | MIDFIELDER Height:185cm Weight:73kg D.O.B:18-10-2005
#12 Jake Rogers SUNS ACADEMY | MIDFIELDER Height:171cm Weight:68kg D.O.B:02-03-2005
#13 Jordan Croft CALDER CANNONS | KEY FORWARD Height:200cm Weight:80kg D.O.B:12-05-2005
#14 Ollie Murphy SANDY DRAGONS | KEY DEFENDER Height:200cm Weight:85kg D.O.B:16-09-2005
#15 Will McCabe CENTRAL DISTRICT | KEY DEFENDER Height:197cm Weight:81kg D.O.B:29-09-2005
#16 James Leake TASMANIA DEVILS | DEFENDER Height:188cm Weight:74kg D.O.B:10-02-2005
#17 Riley Hardeman SWAN DISTRICTS | DEFENDER Height:188cm Weight:80kg D.O.B:27-02-2005
#18 Caleb Windsor EASTERN RANGES | WING Height:184cm Weight:74kg D.O.B:09-06-2005
#19 Mitchell Edwards PEEL THUNDER | RUCK Height:206cm Weight:88kg D.O.B:02-06-2005
#20 Archer Reid GIPPSLAND POWER | KEY FORWARD Height:203cm Weight:93kg D.O.B:19-09-2005
#21 William Green NORTHERN KNIGHTS | RUCK Height:204cm Weight:89kg D.O.B:08-09-2005
#22 Harry De Mattia DANDY STINGRAYS | MIDFIELDER Height:184cm Weight:77kg D.O.B:11-09-2005
#23 Archie Roberts SANDY DRAGONS | DEFENDER Height:184cm Weight:77kg D.O.B:18-11-2005
#24 Koltyn Tholstrup SUBIACO | FORWARD Height:188cm Weight:80kg D.O.B:28-06-2005
#25 Arie Schoenmaker TASSIE DEVILS | TALL DEFENDER Height:194cm Weight:89kg D.O.B:07-01-2005
#26 Joel Freijah GWV REBELS | WING Height:191cm Weight:86kg D.O.B:14-11-2005
#27 Koen Sanchez EAST FREMANTLE | SMALL FORWARD Height:176cm Weight:65kg D.O.B:19-01-2005
#28 Luamon Lual GWV REBELS | SMALL DEFENDER Height:181cm Weight:71kg D.O.B:28-03-2005
#29 Phoenix Gothard MURRAY B'RNGRS | SMALL FORWARD Height:178cm Weight:70kg D.O.B:07-09-2005
#30 Ashton Moir GLENELG | MEDIUM FORWARD Height:188cm Weight:84kg D.O.B:15-04-2005
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/afl-draft-power-rankings-august-2023/
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George Stevens is an interesting one. He is GWV Rebels best player but some think he has reached his ceiling. He reminds me a lot of Jacob Hopper but a steal if he goes outside 30.
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Ideal result - Soldo, Graham, Prestia( cooked), Ralphshyte out Get back into the top 10 , grab Caddy , grab Hollands or Thomas, Moir/big mid slider, Naish f/s, Baldwin from Essendon, Sellers Norf VFL upgrade Yassine & Lefau, Brindley/cheap ruck or upgrade El Nour and develop Biggy in the ruck to replace Slomo. All moot because none of this will happen except maybe trading Ralphshyte. :shh
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AFL Draft Power Rankings: August 2023
#30 Ashton Moir GLENELG | MEDIUM FORWARD Height:188cm Weight:84kg D.O.B:15-04-2005
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/afl-draft-power-rankings-august-2023/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MBYwh9rK0
:shh
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AFL Draft Dossier 2023: Profiles and exclusive stats on all the top prospects
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-dossier-2023-profiles-and-exclusive-stats-on-all-the-top-prospects/news-story/c989830c89ef2d0538a3e7c3485dd923
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AFL Draft Power Rankings: August 2023
#30 Ashton Moir GLENELG | MEDIUM FORWARD Height:188cm Weight:84kg D.O.B:15-04-2005
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/afl-draft-power-rankings-august-2023/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MBYwh9rK0
:shh
Ashton Moir
Forward
Club: Glenelg/Plympton
State: SA
Age: 15/04/05
Weight: 84kg
Height: 188m
2023 SANFL U18s: 88 ranking points, 12.5 disposals, 5.8 marks, 5.5 score involvements, 3 tackles, 2.2 goals (6 games) 2023 National Champs: 66 ranking points, 9.8 disposals, 3.3 marks, 3.3 score involvements, 0.8 goals (4 games)
The freakishly-skilled forward, who booted 30 goals in 10 SANFL under-18 matches in a standout bottom-age season in 2022, is a top-10 pick on talent. But, after dividing his time between Glenelg’s under-18s and reserves this year, and battling a hip injury, he’s failed to really enhance his standing. Moir had 17 disposals and two intercept marks playing more behind the footy against Vic Metro and then booted two goals against Vic Country. His best is undeniable but he’s battled for consistency – in games and across the season.
Source: From the above draftee dossier.
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So is our first pick going to be pick 30?
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Not the right thread but Van Rooyen is a dud.
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No he isn't, he's still a kid - will be a gun. :shh
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Not the right thread but Van Rooyen is a dud.
Not sure he is a dud but boy, very much overrated.
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Kid's 21 - Jack didn't play well in a final until he was nearly 28. :shh
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Actually, JVR is still only 20 (and 144 days) and played only his 20th game tonight (all in 2023) which was his first final. He's kicked 28 goals so far.
At that comparable age (20 yrs 146d), Jack was playing Round 1, 2009 which was his 27th game. Up to that point he had kicked 26 goals. Jack didn't play in his first final until he was 24 for 11 possies and 1 goal. He didn't play in a winning final until he was 28.
Harsh to pick on a young bloke like JVR when more experienced forwards like McDonald and Fritsch had absolute mares and cost the Dees a home Prelim. I'd gladly have JVR at Tigerland which we could have as we overlooked him at pick 17 in the 2021 draft.
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JVR is in his second season lol
Slammed on the muscle when he was drafted and has kicked nearly 30 goals in his first proper season.
He's one of the most promising KPFs of the last few years and we botched it big time despite the warranted hype.
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Some here got blinkers in lol. It's not about Brown v JVR it's about our recruitment team not addressing needs.
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Any thoughts on Riley Weatherwill from Eastern Ranges? 195cm key forward who has kicked 4 and 3 goals respectively in his two finals so far. 31 goals in his 13 games for the year.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/riley-weatherill/
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Any thoughts on Riley Weatherwill from Eastern Ranges? 195cm key forward who has kicked 4 and 3 goals respectively in his two finals so far. 31 goals in his 13 games for the year.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/riley-weatherill/
Probably better than Pickett so it's a yes for me. Even for VFL structure
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If he is 5’11 back flanker that requires a lot of development and is a little shy of the hard stuff where do we sign , no one over 6’2 thanks
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking
1. Harley Reid ............... 17/04/05 185cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country Midfield/forward
2. Jed Walter ................ 08/06/05 195cm 94kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Key forward
3. Zane Duursma .......... 20/08/05 189cm 80kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
4. Colby McKercher ....... 12/04/05 182cm 76kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Midfielder
5. Nick Watson ............. 24/02/05 170cm 68kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Forward
6. Daniel Curtin ............ 08/03/05 195cm 94kg Claremont/Western Australia Key defender/forward
7. Ryley Sanders .......... 21/01/05 186cm 85kg Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons/Allies Midfielder
8. Nate Caddy .............. 14/07/05 192cm 91kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Key forward/midfielder
9. Ethan Read .............. 07/07/05 200cm 88kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Ruck
10. Connor O'Sullivan ... 19/05/05 198cm 92kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Key defender/forward
11. Jordan Croft ........... 12/05/05 201cm 80kg Calder Cannons/Vic Metro Key forward
12. Jake Rogers ........... 02/03/05 172cm 69kg Gold Coast Academy/Broadbeach/Allies Midfielder
13. Ollie Murphy .......... 16/09/05 200cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Key defender
14. Caleb Windsor ........ 09/06/05 185cm 74kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Midfielder (+5)
15. Darcy Wilson .......... 18/08/05 185cm 73kg Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (-1)
16. James Leake .......... 10/02/05 188cm 75kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Defender (+1)
17. Riley Hardeman ...... 27/02/05 188cm 80kg Swan Districts/Western Australia Midfielder (+1)
18. Will McCabe ........... 29/09/05 197cm 81kg Central District/South Australia Key defender/forward (-3)
19. Koltyn Tholstrup ..... 28/06/05 186cm 86kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward/midfielder (+4)
20. Harry DeMattia ...... 11/09/05 184cm 77kg Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (+2)
21. Archie Reid ............ 19/09/05 203cm 93kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country
22. Archie Roberts ....... 18/11/05 184cm 77kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Defender (-6)
23. Will Green ............. 08/09/05 204cm 89kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Ruck (+1)
24. Lance Collard ......... 26/03/05 185cm 66kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward (new)
25. Tew Jiath ............... 02/03/05 187cm 71kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Defender (new)
26. Charlie Edwards ..... 18/05/05 190cm 82kg Sandringham Dragon/Vic Metro Midfielder (new)
27. Mitch Edwards ........ 02/06/05 206cm 88kg Peel Thunder/Western Australia Ruck (-7)
28. George Stevens ...... 10/08/05 189cm 93kg GWV Rebels/Vic Country Midfielder (new)
29. Jack Delean ........... 15/04/05 181cm 73kg South Adelaide/South Australia Forward (new)
30. Ashton Moir ........... 15/04/05 188cm 84kg Glenelg/South Australia Forward (-5)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1030664/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking
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Not many midfielders in the top group of draftees this year but next year already looks a stack.
Jot down Christian Moraes’ name. Another ripping game today for the Eastern Ranges in their prelim win - 28 disp and two goals and could have had more. Averaged 27 disp this season.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1703349496804250084
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Twomey reckons it's unlikely North will be gifted Sanders, but the AFL may them instead a mid-first round priority pick (pick 11).
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1036410/listen-to-gettable-potential-top-10-draft-pick-joins-the-show
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Any thoughts on Riley Weatherwill from Eastern Ranges? 195cm key forward who has kicked 4 and 3 goals respectively in his two finals so far. 31 goals in his 13 games for the year.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/riley-weatherill/
Probably better than Pickett so it's a yes for me. Even for VFL structure
From BF:
Some goal kicking stats for Riley Weatherill
14 games for 35 goals 22 behinds
Finals this year, 4.1, 3.2, 4.0 so 11 goals 3 behinds in the pressure of finals footy, if the introverted stuff is true, he could have confidence but not show it, performing under pressure is a big tick imo.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2023-draft-thread.1339841/post-81112621
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North Melbourne has applied for a priority pick at the top of the draft, but Laura Kane's recommendation to the AFL Commission will instead likely be late first rounders in 2023/24, + a second rounder in 2024.
@NMFCOfficial would be free to use these three selections however it chooses.
Gil is strongly involved in the Commission's decision, which will come on Monday. Whether they adopt the recommendations remains to be seen.
(Which means the only way North can realistically get Ryley Sanders is to stockpile these picks and trade up the draft).
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1705417819637395549
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Shaun Mannagh, who use to play with our VFL side from 2017-19, had 28 disposals and kicked 6 goals in a lone effort for Werribee today.
Edit: He won the Norm Goss Smith medal for best on ground despite being on the losing side.
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1705858990071025976
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Shaun Mannagh, who use to play with our VFL side from 2017-19, had 28 disposals and kicked 6 goals in a lone effort for Werribee today.
Edit: He won the Norm Goss Smith medal for best on ground despite being on the losing side.
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1705858990071025976
FREAKISH GF FEAT HAS 26YO ON RADAR
Oft-overlooked VFL gun Shaun Mannagh has put his name back on the AFL draft radar with a rare feat in Sunday’s Grand Final.
Mannagh, who finished top five in the Liston Trophy and kicked 34 goals from the wing across the VFL season, starred for Werribee in a losing effort to Gold Coast at Ikon Park.
While the Suns won by 19 points Mannagh became one of the rare players to win a best-on-ground medal in a loss, thanks to a mammoth 28 disposals and six goals. He had 16 disposals and four goals at halftime.
Mannagh previously featured in Richmond’s VFL side, playing under Collingwood coach Craig McRae, before boosting his endurance in recent years and moving to Werribee for greater opportunities.
He was overlooked in the 2022 and 2023 midseason drafts and while at 26 his age will be a limiting factor in his chances of making an AFL list, the performances are clearly worth consideration.
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"The perception from recruiters was Shaun Mannagh didn’t quite have the explosiveness to find his way onto an AFL list.
Reckon there might be a few clubs having another look after today. Could be a life-changing game for him despite not getting the @VFL premiership medal"
https://twitter.com/_AMcCormack7/status/1705868303233880295
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2023-jake-waterman-threatens-west-coast-walkout-shaun-mannagh-vfl-grand-final-afl-draft/news-story/65de65c5e433c25bb6a3dff75ca780a4
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Probably would've been upgraded to our AFL list already had he stayed - better than Tresize and probably better than anyone we'll get with our shyte draft picks. :shh
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Probably would've been upgraded to our AFL list already had he stayed - better than Tresize and probably better than anyone we'll get with our shyte draft picks. :shh
Not the same player as Tresize so i don't think this is accurate :shh
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Didn't say he was Jacky boy, was talking in general terms of promoting VFL players, still accurate that he's a better player - would be an upgrade on you as well. :shh :shh
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Didn't say he was Jacky boy, was talking in general terms of promoting VFL players, still accurate that he's a better player - would be an upgrade on you as well. :shh :shh
Better? not so sure as Tresize had a ripping year. Mannagh decent year with 1 outstanding game. Tresize everyday of the week. :shh
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:lol :lol :lol
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:lol :lol :lol
Mate time to get on board it's a new chapter and like you I haven't been happy with our standards last 3 years we got to back Yze and rest need to up the game or be replaced.
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The AFL has given Norf 3 end of first round picks.
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North Melbourne assistance package is as follows. Clubs have been briefed.
- End of first round pick this year
- Two end of first round picks in 2024 (can be reviewed next year)
- Two extra rookie list spots for 2024.
- No extra access to Ryley Sanders beyond standard NGA rules.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1706171060989870508
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Laughable
These joke of a club should receive nothing. It's their own mess.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Chris Scott is a champion for calling out the AFL.
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Worse then a circus 🎪 rewarding mediocre and poor management get out of your mess. Last year they use the pick to get a Freo reject on 5 years just like Polec before poor management.
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The AFL has given Norf 3 end of first round picks.
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North Melbourne assistance package is as follows. Clubs have been briefed.
- End of first round pick this year
- Two end of first round picks in 2024 (can be reviewed next year)
- Two extra rookie list spots for 2024.
- No extra access to Ryley Sanders beyond standard NGA rules.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1706171060989870508
Disgusting
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Laughable
These joke of a club should receive nothing. It's their own mess.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Chris Scott is a champion for calling out the AFL.
He's right but would he be saying it if his brother was still their coach? Also a bit rich talking about blatant manipulation coming from Geelong. :shh
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To think that the compo last year that they had to trade out they've got back this year but don't have to trade it out
A joke
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To think that the compo last year that they had to trade out they've got back this year but don't have to trade it out
A joke
Like when Melbourne got fined 500k for being "not guilty" of tanking - then were given 3 mill, more draft concessions and Paul Roos a few months later - why I'll never regard the '21 flag as legit. :shh
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A couple of phantom drafts/rankings from the BF draftee watchers:
September Top 50
1. Harley Reid
2. Jed Walter
3. Zane Duursma
4. Daniel Curtin
5. Colby McKercher
6. Connor O'Sullivan
7. Ollie Murphy
8. Ethan Read
9. Nate Caddy
10. Nick Watson
11. Darcy Wilson
12. Ryley Sanders
13. Jake Rogers
14. Caleb Windsor
15. James Leake
16. Riley Hardeman
17. Koltyn Tholstrup
18. Jordon Croft
19. Will McCabe
20. Archer Reid
21. Logan Morris
22. Mitch Edwards
23. Joel Freijah
24. Clay Hall
25. Harry Demattia
26. Will Green
27. Arie Shoenmaker
28. Ashton Moir
29. Charlie Edwards
30. Nathan Philactides
31. Tew Jiath
32. Luamon Lual
33. George Stevens
34. Jack Delean
35. Lance Collard
36. Archie Roberts
37. Billy Wilson
38. Kane McAuliffe
39. Angus Hastie
40. Kobe Shipp
41. Koen Sanchez
42. Oscar Ryan
43. Cooper Simpson
44. Will Graham
45. Phoenix Gothard
46. Taylor Goad
47. Will Patton
48. Harvey Johnstone
49. Zane Zakostelsky
50. Will Brown
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pitb-2023-afl-national-draft.1357581/#post-81237933
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n.b. This one was done just before the news about Norf's compo. So, it incorrectly assumed Norf would get another pick after their first pick rather than at the end of the first round this year. It also assumes the Bulldogs will trade and gain Gold Coast's first pick.
In any case, with all the academy and father-son bids, our first pick drops to pick 30. This phantom draft has Will Lorenz at #30.
Phantom Draft - Top 30
Pick 1 - WCE - Harley Reid
Pick 2 - GCS - Bid Jed Walter
Pick 3 - NM - Colby McKercher
Pick 4 - NM - Zane Duursma
Pick 5 - GCS - Bid Ethan Read
Pick 6 - HAW - Daniel Curtin
Pick 7 - WB - Nick Watson
Pick 8 - MELB - Ryley Sanders
Pick 9 - GWS - Connor O'Sullivan
Pick 10 - GEEL - Darcy Wilson
Pick 11 - GCS - Bid Jake Rogers
Pick 12 - ESS - Nate Caddy
Pick 13 - ADEL - Caleb Windsor
Pick 14 - WB - Harry Demattia
Pick 15 - HAW - Bid Will McCabe
Pick 16 - SYD - Mitch Edwards
Pick 17 - StK - James Leake
Pick 18 - MELB - Ollie Murphy
Pick 19 - NM - Archer Reid
Pick 20 - GWS - Charlie Edwards
Pick 21 - WB - Bid Jordan Croft
Pick 22 - CARL - Billy Wilson
Pick 23 - COLL - Jack Delean
Pick 24 - WCE - Riley Hardeman
Pick 25 - ADEL - Will Green
Pick 26 - FREM - Koltyn Tholstrup
Pick 27 - SYD - Koen Sanchez
Pick 28 - ADEL - Joel Freijah
Pick 29 - MELB - Harvey Johnston
Pick 30 - RICH - Will Lorenz
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2023-draft-thread.1339841/page-35#post-81185796
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WILL LORENZ
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1685602123885/image1_iDq9R6zYMvz.jpg)
2023 Stats: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-lorenz/
Oakleigh Chargers/Boroondara Hawks FC/Marcellin College
Date of Birth-19/02/05;
Height 186 cm;
Weight 70kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 116 points (2 games)
A lightly-built wingman or forward, Lorenz produced some eye-catching matches last year. In a Victorian Futures game against Queensland, he had 32 disposals and kicked three goals. He went on to feature for Team Murphy on the MCG on AFL Grand Final day last year and logged 24 disposals, nine marks and a goal to give a further indication of his undoubted potential. A left-footer who has good speed and a neat step through traffic, Lorenz had a disrupted summer due to injury but is now back on track. He played two of the first three games in the Coates Talent League, averaging 20 disposals (13 uncontested) and 6 score involvements. Lorenz is the grandson of former Hawthorn great Graham Arthur.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-kevin-sheehans-top-30-prospects-from-across-the-country/news-story/9732add92cc0655631aca6d64ad5fe3c
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n.b. This one was done just before the news about Norf's compo. So, it incorrectly assumed Norf would get another pick after their first pick rather than at the end of the first round this year. It also assumes the Bulldogs will trade and gain Gold Coast's first pick.
In any case, with all the academy and father-son bids, our first pick drops to pick 30. This phantom draft has Will Lorenz at #30.
Phantom Draft - Top 30
Pick 1 - WCE - Harley Reid
Pick 2 - GCS - Bid Jed Walter
Pick 3 - NM - Colby McKercher
Pick 4 - NM - Zane Duursma
Pick 5 - GCS - Bid Ethan Read
Pick 6 - HAW - Daniel Curtin
Pick 7 - WB - Nick Watson
Pick 8 - MELB - Ryley Sanders
Pick 9 - GWS - Connor O'Sullivan
Pick 10 - GEEL - Darcy Wilson
Pick 11 - GCS - Bid Jake Rogers
Pick 12 - ESS - Nate Caddy
Pick 13 - ADEL - Caleb Windsor
Pick 14 - WB - Harry Demattia
Pick 15 - HAW - Bid Will McCabe
Pick 16 - SYD - Mitch Edwards
Pick 17 - StK - James Leake
Pick 18 - MELB - Ollie Murphy
Pick 19 - NM - Archer Reid
Pick 20 - GWS - Charlie Edwards
Pick 21 - WB - Bid Jordan Croft
Pick 22 - CARL - Billy Wilson
Pick 23 - COLL - Jack Delean
Pick 24 - WCE - Riley Hardeman
Pick 25 - ADEL - Will Green
Pick 26 - FREM - Koltyn Tholstrup
Pick 27 - SYD - Koen Sanchez
Pick 28 - ADEL - Joel Freijah
Pick 29 - MELB - Harvey Johnston
Pick 30 - RICH - Will Lorenz
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2023-draft-thread.1339841/page-35#post-81185796
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WILL LORENZ
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1685602123885/image1_iDq9R6zYMvz.jpg)
2023 Stats: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-lorenz/
Oakleigh Chargers/Boroondara Hawks FC/Marcellin College
Date of Birth-19/02/05;
Height 186 cm;
Weight 70kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 116 points (2 games)
A lightly-built wingman or forward, Lorenz produced some eye-catching matches last year. In a Victorian Futures game against Queensland, he had 32 disposals and kicked three goals. He went on to feature for Team Murphy on the MCG on AFL Grand Final day last year and logged 24 disposals, nine marks and a goal to give a further indication of his undoubted potential. A left-footer who has good speed and a neat step through traffic, Lorenz had a disrupted summer due to injury but is now back on track. He played two of the first three games in the Coates Talent League, averaging 20 disposals (13 uncontested) and 6 score involvements. Lorenz is the grandson of former Hawthorn great Graham Arthur.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-kevin-sheehans-top-30-prospects-from-across-the-country/news-story/9732add92cc0655631aca6d64ad5fe3c
Don’t understand our clubs obsession with lightweight left footers.
I think he looks like Aaron Fiora mk ll.
Good luck to the young fella
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n.b. This one was done just before the news about Norf's compo. So, it incorrectly assumed Norf would get another pick after their first pick rather than at the end of the first round this year. It also assumes the Bulldogs will trade and gain Gold Coast's first pick.
In any case, with all the academy and father-son bids, our first pick drops to pick 30. This phantom draft has Will Lorenz at #30.
Phantom Draft - Top 30
Pick 1 - WCE - Harley Reid
Pick 2 - GCS - Bid Jed Walter
Pick 3 - NM - Colby McKercher
Pick 4 - NM - Zane Duursma
Pick 5 - GCS - Bid Ethan Read
Pick 6 - HAW - Daniel Curtin
Pick 7 - WB - Nick Watson
Pick 8 - MELB - Ryley Sanders
Pick 9 - GWS - Connor O'Sullivan
Pick 10 - GEEL - Darcy Wilson
Pick 11 - GCS - Bid Jake Rogers
Pick 12 - ESS - Nate Caddy
Pick 13 - ADEL - Caleb Windsor
Pick 14 - WB - Harry Demattia
Pick 15 - HAW - Bid Will McCabe
Pick 16 - SYD - Mitch Edwards
Pick 17 - StK - James Leake
Pick 18 - MELB - Ollie Murphy
Pick 19 - NM - Archer Reid
Pick 20 - GWS - Charlie Edwards
Pick 21 - WB - Bid Jordan Croft
Pick 22 - CARL - Billy Wilson
Pick 23 - COLL - Jack Delean
Pick 24 - WCE - Riley Hardeman
Pick 25 - ADEL - Will Green
Pick 26 - FREM - Koltyn Tholstrup
Pick 27 - SYD - Koen Sanchez
Pick 28 - ADEL - Joel Freijah
Pick 29 - MELB - Harvey Johnston
Pick 30 - RICH - Will Lorenz
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2023-draft-thread.1339841/page-35#post-81185796
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WILL LORENZ
(https://multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/toplist/content/1685602123885/image1_iDq9R6zYMvz.jpg)
2023 Stats: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-lorenz/
Oakleigh Chargers/Boroondara Hawks FC/Marcellin College
Date of Birth-19/02/05;
Height 186 cm;
Weight 70kg
NAB League Average Ranking Points: 116 points (2 games)
A lightly-built wingman or forward, Lorenz produced some eye-catching matches last year. In a Victorian Futures game against Queensland, he had 32 disposals and kicked three goals. He went on to feature for Team Murphy on the MCG on AFL Grand Final day last year and logged 24 disposals, nine marks and a goal to give a further indication of his undoubted potential. A left-footer who has good speed and a neat step through traffic, Lorenz had a disrupted summer due to injury but is now back on track. He played two of the first three games in the Coates Talent League, averaging 20 disposals (13 uncontested) and 6 score involvements. Lorenz is the grandson of former Hawthorn great Graham Arthur.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-kevin-sheehans-top-30-prospects-from-across-the-country/news-story/9732add92cc0655631aca6d64ad5fe3c
Don’t understand our clubs obsession with lightweight left footers.
I think he looks like Aaron Fiora mk ll.
Good luck to the young fella
To be fair it's a phantom draft, no the club showing interest, but when we have such a weak draft hand it's not like there's going to be quality KPFs available unless we get lucky with a Larkey or Mitchell.
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WA TALL ON THE RISE
WEST Australian tall Zane Zakostelsky looms as a possible top-30 contender as clubs continue to scour the market for key-position options in this year's draft.
Zakostelsky was named best on ground in Claremont's under-18 colts Grand Final win over Perth last weekend, gathering 22 disposals and having 18 hitouts.
The 17-year-old has played as a ruckman at that level through this season but shapes as a key defensive option for AFL clubs given his 196cm frame.
Zakostelsky, who has a background in basketball and athletics, will next week test at the AFL Draft Combine in Melbourne, where he is expected to be a standout performer and further push his draft case.
His endurance and speed combination has impressed, having ran the 20-metre sprint in 2.85 seconds at WA's under-18 testing earlier this year. Some clubs believe he could break into the top 30 draftees by November given his attributes.
– Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1042855
Another Noah Balta type?
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This kid is rumoured to be going to train with us over preseason.
Liam George
(https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1669083504/ja/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%88/liam-george-of-the-eastern-ranges-celebrates-during-the-coates-talent-league-boys-quarter.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=CDK89qRocK6OoLe5XPbZGGR5rKEsUnTfhJJVgz5WDsA=) (https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1685669675/ja/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%88/liam-george-of-the-eastern-ranges-celebrates-kicking-a-goal-during-the-coates-talent-league.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=7bYHlByT1_kwQ6jblxkhusVdn4cVft7YnKCuXq3tx48=)
Height: 182cm
Weight: 71kg
D.O.B: 05-10-2005
Position: Half-forward/Wing.
Club: Eastern Ranges/Mooroolbark
https://www.playhq.com/public/profile/dd8a7da4-f436-45b6-a74f-5f9990ba08fc/statistics
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Our type of player
Short
Skinny
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Reckon we could find a 2nd tier KPF who had a good year and maybe invite them?
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We currently have picks 26, 45, 63.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1048239/indicative-draft-order-north-melbourne-kangaroos-hold-strong-hand-at-seasons-end
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What and who your club should be targeting with its current picks
Chris Cavanagh, Jordan Pinto and Dan Batten
HeraldSun
October 3, 2023
RICHMOND
Draft Picks before Trade Period: 26, 45, 63
The Tigers are lacking key posts at both ends of the ground, with Jack Riewoldt and Robbie Tarrant having retired and Dylan Grimes and Tom Lynch both the wrong side of 30.
Richmond looks like securing Hawthorn key forward Jacob Koschitzke during the trade period to team up with Lynch next year.
But if they retain their second-round pick, the Tigers could look to players like 192cm marking forward Logan Morris, 193cm forward Luke Lloyd or 193cm defender Will Patton.
While the club does not have a great draft hand this year, it’s worth remembering that Richmond secured five top-30 picks in 2021, who will be seeking further opportunities under new coach Adem Yze next season.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-what-and-who-your-club-should-be-targeting-with-its-current-picks/news-story/77ff532d16c7346a2c536101c59472ce
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5 top picks in 2021 and despite some glimpses here and there I haven't seen a lot to get excited about, especially after a year where we have struggled so much. I wonder/hope if fresh coaching staff will change that because after two years on the list you'd really want to see some of them coming through or you'd get nervous.
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Richmond will have a meeting with 7 prospects who are ranged around our pick.
5 of the names have been revealed to me which include, Cooper Simpson , Logan Morris , George Stevens , Lance Collard and Archer Reid.
Two of the other names are currently not known to me
Richmond also loved the prospect Koltyn Tholstrup, a hybrid forward from Western Australia, but they believe it’ll be a stretch for him to land at Richmond.
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Players Richmond Could Select In The Draft!
- Lance Collard -Small Forward / Subiaco
- Charlie Edwards Outside Mid / Sandringham
- Cooper Simpson Mid - Fwd / Dandenong
- Jack Delean Small Forward / South Adelaide
if you need some knowledge on these players let me know
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Lane Collard has that Charlie Cameron type factor about him, but his discipline has been a massive issue, but the talent through the WAFL Games and even the combine numbers prove he is a quality target
This season for Subiaco his goal stats are pretty extraordinary. 10 games for the year, 5 games he kicked 5+, only on 2 occasion did he not score more then 2 goals.
we do have history on selecting players with known disciplinary issues. All depends if he’s still on the board or if we rate him enough.
while Jack DeLean is you’re clean small forward. Sensational over head mark and has that level of craft but lacks that speed.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
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Looool all smalls and again no key position don't we learn.
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Should be Reid, Moir, Zakostelsky, Ferronato :shh
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lets hope curtin or a duursma doesnt fall to the giants, or hopper will be the biggest whipping boy since the jordy mcmahon/tambling days.
In fact im betting he wont be far off if he has another year like his past one.
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Should be Reid, Moir, Zakostelsky, Ferronato :shh
Any more info on these boys?
Heights and weights and positions etc?
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Players Richmond Could Select In The Draft!
- Lance Collard -Small Forward / Subiaco
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Lane Collard has that Charlie Cameron type factor about him, but his discipline has been a massive issue, but the talent through the WAFL Games and even the combine numbers prove he is a quality target
This season for Subiaco his goal stats are pretty extraordinary. 10 games for the year, 5 games he kicked 5+, only on 2 occasion did he not score more then 2 goals.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
AFL draft 2023: Young gun Lance Collard’s rapid rise sparks push for rule overhaul
Mark Duffield
West Australian
October 11, 2023
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Subiaco’s Lance Collard’s rapid rise through the draft pecking order is set to trigger a fresh debate on AFL Next Generation Academy rules and a fresh push from non-Victorian clubs for the rules to be relaxed.
Collard tested brilliantly at the National Draft Combine to top off a spectacular finish to his WAFL Colts campaign and is now considered a possible first round pick at the draft.
He will almost certainly be taken before wooden spooner West Coast, the club whose Next Generation Academy he had been a part of, have a chance to match any bid for him.
Under current rules, clubs can only match a bid for an NGA prospect taken outside of pick 40.
Earlier in the year, the lightning quick Collard was viewed as a player who would fall somewhere between the middle of the second and third rounds, putting him right on the cusp of where the Eagles might have access to him.
But he kicked 32 goals in 11 games for the Subiaco Colts, rattling home with brilliant performances in finals against West Perth and East Fremantle when he kicked five goals in both games.
He then tested fourth fastest in the 20 metre sprint at the draft combine with a time of 2.923 seconds and won the agility run with a time of 8.157 seconds.
The traits exhibited are considered critical tools for an AFL small forward to have in their kit bag. And quality small forwards who can kick goals are becoming increasingly fashionable at AFL level with Collingwood’s Bobby Hill winning this year’s Norm Smith Medal.
One AFL club recruiter on Tuesday said he would now view Collard as a first round and potential top 10 talent.
Locally talent managers have him behind only Claremont’s Daniel Curtin and alongside fellow Subiaco product Koltyn Tholstrup purely for talent.
Curtin is considered a certain top 10 pick while Tholstrup is expected to be taken in the top 25.
“He is certainly in our top couple in terms of talent,” state talent manager Adam Jones said of Collard. “The stuff that he can do is as good as any.”
“From a pure football traits perspective – speed and skill – that is a pretty fair statement.”
The question mark, Jones said, would be whether Collard could learn to adapt to the extra heat and attention he will cop at AFL level. He had been prone to reacting to niggle and close checking but had shown signs he was improving that side of his game towards the end of the season.
“It is just that on field resilience and emotional stability. Once he gets a bit older you would expect him to be a lot better in that area. From an off field perspective we haven’t had any dramas with him. It was bloody good to see him test well at the weekend,” Jones said.
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Lance Collard during the 2023 AFL National Draft Combine. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-young-gun-lance-collards-rapid-rise-sparks-push-for-rule-overhaul/news-story/5113ceb773bad2a4d13ea541a44c107e
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HeraldSun's top 40 draft rankings:
1. HARLEY REID
2. JED WALTER ..... GC academy
3. COLBY MCKERCHER
4. ZANE DUURSMA
5. DANIEL CURTIN
6. NICK WATSON
7. RYLEY SANDERS
8. ETHAN READ ..... GC academy
9. CONNOR O’SULLIVAN
10. NATE CADDY
11. JAKE ROGERS ..... GC academy
12. DARCY WILSON
13. OLLIE MURPHY
14. JORDAN CROFT ..... WB F/S.
15. CALEB WINDSOR
16. KOLTYN THOLSTRUP
17. JAMES LEAKE
18. RILEY HARDEMAN
19. WILL MCCABE ..... Haw F/S
20. HARRY DeMATTIA
21. ARCHIE ROBERTS
22. ARIE SCHOENMAKER
23. TEW JIATH
24. GEORGE STEVENS
25. ARCHER REID
26. CHARLIE EDWARDS
27. MITCHELL EDWARDS
28. WILL GREEN
29. LANCE COLLARD
30. LUAMON LUAL
31. COOPER SIMPSON
32. LOGAN MORRIS
33. ASHTON MOIR
34. JOEL FREIJAH
35. ZANE ZAKOSTELSKY
36. ANGUS HASTIE
37. KOEN SANCHEZ
38. CAIDEN CLEARY ..... Sydney academy
39. CLAY HALL
40. JACK DELEAN
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-october-consensus-rankings-of-top-40-prospects/news-story/3839ffa3f33e9394c4cf963a084acf8f
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Those academy's the biggest rort those clubs been in the league long enough now.
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Those academy's the biggest rort those clubs been in the league long enough now.
Our current picks are 28, 49, 67, 85. Once the academy & father-sons bids are included, our first pick will be pushed out to the early 30s and we'll likely only have one pick inside the top 50.
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Pick 49 to Hawks for Kosi you'd think and take a punt on a KPF with 28.
The rest is useless trash
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Pick 49 to Hawks for Kosi you'd think and take a punt on a KPF with 28.
The rest is useless trash
Finally some sense 👍🏿👍🏿
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Maybe Moir will slip to us. Looks a good medium forward off both feet
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Richmond will have a meeting with 7 prospects who are ranged around our pick.
5 of the names have been revealed to me which include, Cooper Simpson , Logan Morris , George Stevens , Lance Collard and Archer Reid.
Two of the other names are currently not known to me
Richmond also loved the prospect Koltyn Tholstrup, a hybrid forward from Western Australia, but they believe it’ll be a stretch for him to land at Richmond.
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Players Richmond Could Select In The Draft!
- Lance Collard -Small Forward / Subiaco
- Charlie Edwards Outside Mid / Sandringham
- Cooper Simpson Mid - Fwd / Dandenong
- Jack Delean Small Forward / South Adelaide
if you need some knowledge on these players let me know
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Lane Collard has that Charlie Cameron type factor about him, but his discipline has been a massive issue, but the talent through the WAFL Games and even the combine numbers prove he is a quality target
This season for Subiaco his goal stats are pretty extraordinary. 10 games for the year, 5 games he kicked 5+, only on 2 occasion did he not score more then 2 goals.
we do have history on selecting players with known disciplinary issues. All depends if he’s still on the board or if we rate him enough.
while Jack DeLean is you’re clean small forward. Sensational over head mark and has that level of craft but lacks that speed.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
Jack Delean, skinny left footer, pass for me,
Charlie Edwards looks pretty good
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Pick 49 to Hawks for Kosi you'd think and take a punt on a KPF with 28.
The rest is useless trash
Finally some sense 👍🏿👍🏿
I wouldn’t offer anything more than our pick 67. He’s uncontracted and was stuck in the 2s, pick 49 while it will probably amount to nothing in the draft anyway is still overs imo.
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Our picks have been pushed back one more spot due to the Gresham compo to St Kilda. We now have picks 29, 50, 68, 86.
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... recruiting sources believe Collard now looms as a mid to late first-round selection at next month’s draft.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2023-early-phantom-draft-trade-whispers-harley-reid-west-coast-zane-duursma-north-melbourne/news-story/3c043f223a2513f5b97d733a483475d6
He will be out of our range if true.
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... recruiting sources believe Collard now looms as a mid to late first-round selection at next month’s draft.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2023-early-phantom-draft-trade-whispers-harley-reid-west-coast-zane-duursma-north-melbourne/news-story/3c043f223a2513f5b97d733a483475d6
He will be out of our range if true.
Tgft
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EX-CRICKETER WITH HUGE UPSIDE
Former state under-19 fast bowler Patrick Weckert hopes his high “upside” boosts his draft chances.
Weckert, a 194cm, 90kg key forward from Woodville-West Torrens, has not undertaken a full football pre-season having been heavily involved in cricket.
He turned heads in 2022 when he kicked 8.1 against North Adelaide in a reserves game – his first in the seniors – at the age of 17.
This year, he played three league matches and booted five goals in a semi-final win over Central District.
Four clubs – Port Adelaide, Collingwood, Richmond and West Coast – were understood to have shown interest in Weckert, who received a late invitation to test on Saturday.
“At the start of the season it probably wasn’t clicking for me,” Weckert said.
“I probably hadn’t had the best preparation for the season with my cricket and not really having much of a pre-season … I only joined in January.
“But towards the back end going into finals I felt like things were starting to click.”
Weckert rejected a SA Cricket Association rookie contract to concentrate on footy.
He is returning to work on his family’s sheep and crop farm, near Koolunga in the mid-north, to help his dad and uncle in the lead-up to the draft.
Weckert has also gained plenty of life perspective this year via a job in plastering and role with the National Disability Insurance Scheme.
“I have one main client who I go out and do fun activities with a couple of times a week and it’s the highlight of their week and a really good feeling to go out and help them,” he said.
“It’s a great way to give back.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/south-australian-2023-state-draft-combine-recruiters-cast-their-eyes-over-19-prospects/news-story/3a632b8391b131e66ae7dd6919b4e732
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I'm sold, draft him.
194/90 as a teenager.
Can obviously kick a sherin.
Development upside.
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I'm sold, draft him.
194/90 as a teenager.
Can obviously kick a sherin.
Development upside.
Sounds ok, as long as he is not a Bradtke mk ll
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Already on the NDIS so should fit right in at Meehan's Richmond Rehab FC :shh
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I'm sold, draft him.
194/90 as a teenager.
Can obviously kick a sherin.
Development upside.
Sounds ok, as long as he is not a Bradtke mk ll
At least Bradtke cost us nothing that's about the only upside lol
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Interesting PA are into him when you consider they have 5 kids in T Marshall, K Marshall, Scully, Lord and Georgiades to go with Finlayson and Dixon.
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Interesting PA are into him when you consider they have 5 kids in T Marshall, K Marshall, Scully, Lord and Georgiades to go with Finlayson and Dixon.
Well Dixon is crap/cooked, Finlayson going on 28.
Georgiades is only 192.
Maybe they're planning for the future like we never really bothered to do.
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Your club's draft picks as of October 16, 2023
Richmond: 29, 50, 65, 68
Adelaide: 10, 14, 20
Brisbane: 30, 47, 51, 61, 67
Carlton: 22, 26, 70, 78
Collingwood: 19, 39, 80
Essendon: 9, 31, 52, 73
Fremantle: 34, 46, 60, 64
Geelong: 8
Gold Coast: 24, 27, 28, 32, 36, 38, 62, 66, 71, 74
GWS Giants: 7, 16, 43, 59, 77, 79
Hawthorn: 4, 33, 44, 54, 63
Melbourne: 6, 11, 42
North Melb: 2, 3, 15, 17, 18, 57
Port Adel: 25, 41, 49, 76
St Kilda: 13, 21, 35, 56
Sydney: 12, 45, 55
West Coast: 1, 23, 37, 58
W.Bulldogs: 5, 40, 48, 53, 69, 72, 75
https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-order
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Some of the draftees that may be around at our later picks.
AFL Draft 2023: The best prospects who are flying under the radar
They might not be top-20 prospects in this year’s draft, but these players could prove to be late gems for AFL clubs in November.
Chris Cavanagh and Dan Batten
HeraldSun
October 18, 2023
LUKE LLOYD
A 193cm forward, Lloyd emerged as a draft bolter in the second half of the year. He was unsighted at the under-18 national championships, after missing selection for Vic Metro following an early-season quad injury. However, Lloyd kicked 19 goals in a game for school side De La Salle in May to put his potential on show. His marking is a feature of his game and he booted eight goals across his final three games of the season for Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League, including two majors in a winning grand final.
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COOPER SIMPSON
Somewhat of a forgotten man, Simpson has slid down draft boards through little fault of his own, with an injury during the championships sidelining him for a critical part of the season. But his finish to year for the Dandenong Stingrays was a reminder of his x-factor as a midfielder, booting 2 goals from 20 disposals in his final outing. Simpson has a great sidestep in traffic and can break a game open with his penetrating kick, burst and ability to hit the scoreboard, averaging 21.5 disposals and just under a goal per game at Coates Talent League level. Had impressive results across the board at the combine and also received a VFL opportunity for Casey earlier in the year.
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WIL DAWSON
A versatile tall, Dawson measured 200.3cm at the national draft combine and is still growing. Gippsland Power required him in defence this year and he impressed in that position. However, Dawson is seen as a natural forward and back-up ruck, which is where he featured in his bottom-age season in 2022. While not a finished product just yet, there is plenty of excitement about what Dawson could become given his size, competitive nature, one-on-one contest wins and ability to be clean below his knees. He has met with just about every club, suggesting he will likely land somewhere.
SHAUN MANNAGH
Clubs after a plug and play mature-ager who can find the footy with ease and consistently hit the scoreboard, look no further. Mannagh put an exclamation point on his dominant VFL season with an incredible grand final performance, booting six goals and racking up 28 disposals to win the best-on-ground medal in Werribee’s loss to Gold Coast. You have to have make a significant impact to get drafted at 26, but Mannagh did just that at VFL level this season as a midfielder-forward, averaging 25 disposals, 7.8 score involvements, 5.6 tackles 4.7 clearances, 1.9 goals and 117 ranking points per game. Players who can break games open in the forward half while winning 20 disposals are hard to find, and Mannagh is well worth the punt.
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COOPER TREMBATH
A 193cm tall, Trembath took to his first season in defence like a duck to water this year. He was overlooked for Vic Metro’s under-18 national championships squad, but starred in the middle and later part of the year for the Eastern Ranges as a strong-marking and intercepting backman. In a round 7 match in the Coates Talent League, Trembath racked up 17 disposals and 14 marks including eight intercept marks. He has quickly learnt when to go for his marks and when to spoil and how to position his body. Trembath can play on mid-sized forwards but also a little bit bigger and has drawn comparisons to Greater Western Sydney’s Connor Idun.
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MICHAEL RUDD
Rudd was equal fifth for goals per game at the national championships after an eye-catching carnival for Vic Country, but he was left off the national combine invite list. Club concerns centre on the medium forward’s speed, but what Rudd does have is a huge engine and strong hands overhead. Rudd showcased this at the state combine where he came equal-fifth in the 2km time trial (6:17). At 192cm, Rudd plays in a similar vein to Collingwood premiership forward Brody Mihocek and could prove to be a hidden gem for a club after a marking forward with relentless workrate.
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TAYLOR GOAD
The equal-tallest player at the national draft combine, Goad measured in at a towering 206.2cm. However, despite his size he is incredibly athletic and finished eighth in both the 20m sprint and vertical jump tests. Goad featured as a ruckman for South Australia in all four games of the under-18 national championships and continued his good form in the second half of the season for South Adelaide in the SANFL under-18s. He is agile, has good skills and is super competitive. Goad only began to focus on football again last year, having previously prioritised basketball.
KANE MCAULIFFE
A 187cm utility from North Adelaide, McAuliffe has some fans and showcased his incredible athletic abilities at the national draft combine. He finished third in the running vertical jump and fifth in both the vertical jump and the 20m sprint tests. He was also the first South Australian across the line in the 2km time trial, finishing in a time of 6min 26sec. A member of the AFL Academy this year, McAuliffe was restricted at times by a groin injury. However, the penetrating left-footer led the way in the midfield for South Australia at the national championships and impressed across seven SANFL reserves matches in the second half of the year.
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LOGAN EVANS
A strong start to the season saw Evans crack into the Norwood’s senior side from the get-go, tallying 18 disposals in a promising league debut. The rangy defender has spent time at all three levels this season but has played most of his footy in Norwood’s reserves, where he has averaged 15.2 disposals, 5.8 intercepts and 91 ranking points across 10 matches. His national championships could have been better, but as his national combine snub proves, Evans’ season has flown under the radar. The 189cm prospect reads the play well, has tidy skills and isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty defensively
REECE TORRENT
A 184cm midfielder or rebounding halfback, Torrent had a solid national championships with Western Australia and made an even better finish to the season. He made his senior WAFL debut for Peel Thunder in the final round of the regular season, showing good composure and kicking a goal. He runs hard and can break the lines, can win his own ball when playing inside and hits targets when on the outside with his nice left foot. Torrent placed seventh in the agility test at the national draft combine, while also performing well in the 2km time trial with a time of 6min 24sec.
KOEN SANCHEZ
May not have eye-catching traits of WA bolter Lance Collard, but Sanchez is a hardworking half-forward who is always keeping himself busy. Sanchez had a consistent national carnival where he averaged 17.8 disposals, 6.0 score involvments, 1.5 goals and 102 ranking points, with his three goals against Vic Metro the highlight. The East Fremantle prospect is very clean below his knees, has deft footskills and is a great decision maker. Sanchez has racked up large possession tallies as a midfielder at WAFL Colts level, suggesting he can pinch hit in the midfield at the next level. Sanchez has also made the step up to WAFL Reserves level and didn’t look out of place.
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BAILEY VAN DE HEUVEL
The dearth of key defenders in the AFL saw the 25-year-old burst onto the draft radar, with his invite to the state combine evidence of club interest. After crossing from Footscray to Geelong’s VFL side, Van De Heuvel went to anothett level at the back end of the season, averaging 18.2 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.8 intercept possessions and 4.8 marks in his last five games. This was all while working as an electrician during the week. At 200cm, Van De Heuvel can win the ball back off the opposition with his reading of the play and overhead marking, and he is ultra competitive defensively. Geelong VFL coach Mark Corrigan views him as a mature-ager with significant upside given he has never been in a full-time program. Could he be the latest Cats VFL graduate to be promoted to Geelong list?
SAM CLOHESY
The Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal has been a golden ticket into the AFL for mature-age talents, with Ethan Phillips (2022) the first recipient in the last 16 years who didn’t go on to get drafted. Clohesy, the older brother of 2022 Geelong draftee Ted, was recognised with the award after coming on in leaps and bounds this year alongside Mannagh for Werribee, averaging 16.8 disposalss and 5.6 marks. The rebounding defender uses the ball well by foot, is a good size at 189cm and is strong overhead. Clohesy has played local footy all over the country and this year was his first full season playing VFL football, giving him promising upside for a club after a defender. Several clubs have shown interest, with his 26-disposal preliminary final in particular attracting attention.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-the-best-prospects-who-are-flying-under-the-radar/news-story/a8ea96cd2063c67c3dad3c6dacced711
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I hope we go for Bailey vdh. Heard good things about him
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Luke Lloyd if he's available? We need KPFs terribly
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I hope we go for Bailey vdh. Heard good things about him
Looks like he has a bit of bastard in him
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Each club's draft picks
Richmond: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
Adelaide: 10, 14, 20, 89
Brisbane: 30, 39, 51, 54, 67, 97
Carlton: 22, 28, 70, 78, 96
Collingwood: 19, 33, 80, 98
Essendon: 9, 31, 35, 73, 88
Fremantle: 34, 46, 60, 64, 85
Geelong: 8, 25, 76, 87, 94
Gold Coast: 24, 26, 27, 32, 36, 38, 66, 71, 74, 84
GWS Giants: 7, 16, 43, 59, 77, 79, 95
Hawthorn: 4, 44, 47, 49, 61, 62, 63, 83
Melbourne: 6, 11, 42, 93
North Melb.: 2, 3, 15, 17, 18, 57, 82
Port Adel.:
St Kilda: 13, 21, 40, 92
Sydney: 12, 45, 55, 91
West Coast: 1, 23, 37, 58, 81
W.Bulldogs: 5, 48, 50, 52, 53, 56, 69, 72, 75, 90
https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-order
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Does anyone know what the picks will come down to once GCs picks are eaten up by bid matches?
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Does anyone know what the picks will come down to once GCs picks are eaten up by bid matches?
I'm guessing 29 will stay around the same and 41 might come forward a few spots.
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My guess is 29 becomes low 30's the rest should come down.
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Interesting PA are into him when you consider they have 5 kids in T Marshall, K Marshall, Scully, Lord and Georgiades to go with Finlayson and Dixon.
Well Dixon is crap/cooked, Finlayson going on 28.
Georgiades is only 192.
Maybe they're planning for the future like we never really bothered to do.
Bauer is only 192 but we still consider him a tall. The point was we had Tom and Jack and did stuff all.
Port had Dixon and Findlayson but still went out and got a plethora of young tall's and will continue to do so probably. They have actually managed to get games into Marshall Lord and Georgiades.
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Trade 41,65& 68 to GC for 32 -should give us a shot at both Moir & Zaletsky or maybe even Reid if he slide...grab Mannagh or Sellers with 86....rookie one of Yassine, Brindley,Lefau or WP's favourite whipping boy El Nour... :shh
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Trade 41,65& 68 to GC for 32 -should give us a shot at both Moir & Zaletsky or maybe even Reid if he slide...grab Mannagh or Sellers with 86....rookie one of Yassine, Brindley,Lefau or WP's favourite whipping boy El Nour... :shh
What sort of point surplus will they get from that?
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Trade 41,65& 68 to GC for 32 -should give us a shot at both Moir & Zaletsky or maybe even Reid if he slide...grab Mannagh or Sellers with 86....rookie one of Yassine, Brindley,Lefau or WP's favourite whipping boy El Nour... :shh
What sort of point surplus will they get from that?
It's a deficit actually.
Pick 32: 584 points
Picks 41, 65 & 68: 412 + 90 + 59 = 561 points
Gold Coast's picks 36 (502 pts) or 38 (465 pts) would give them a points surplus though.
However, the Suns wouldn't do it anyway as I'm pretty sure there's a rule that any picks you trade in you have to use. Clubs don't want late picks if they have no need for them. The only reason for the Suns to consider a swap of picks on draft night is if there are earlier bids than they were expecting on all of their academy kids which would send them into a points deficit next year.
The same rule should mean we'll be using at least 29, 41 & 65 in the National draft.
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You forgot to factor in the Dimma discount... :shh
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El Nour included in this list.
Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Tall defenders
afl.com.au
19 October 2023
AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan has released profiles on the top tall defender prospects ahead of the 2023 AFL Draft.
The tall defenders group includes three players who claimed their team’s MVP award at the 2023 AFL National Championships in Daniel Curtin (Western Australia), Ollie Murphy (Victoria Metro) and Connor O’Sullivan (Allies).
NATIONAL COMBINE
Daniel Curtin
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: West Coast
Date of Birth: 08/03/05
Height: 197cm
A left-footed defender who experienced a frustrating run with injury during the 2022 season before getting back to play in the AFL Futures game at the MCG on AFL Grand Final day. He excelled for Team Houli with 22 disposals and nine marks to claim best on the ground honours. Continued that form into this season and was outstanding for Western Australia at the National Championships winning his team’s MVP award and All-Australian honours after averaging 23.5 disposals and 6.5 marks playing as a defender and midfielder. Played a handful of senior games at club level and ended the season being one of his team’s best in a premiership win at under 18s level. His agility, speed for his size and precise kicking are all features of his game.
Wil Dawson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Leongatha
Date of Birth: 20/12/05
Height: 200cm
Developed as a potential tall defender throughout the year but also played up forward and in the ruck. Still developing physically having grown 20cm in the past two years but has maintained his ability at ground level, where he is clean below the knees. Doesn’t turn 18 until late December making him only just eligible for this year’s Draft. Showed distinct promise in his 13 games for the Gippsland Power in the Coates Talent League as well as for Victoria Country, where he displayed aggression and intensity in the way he attacked the ball.
Will McCabe
State: South Australia
State League Club: Central District
Community Club: Tanunda
Date of Birth: 29/09/05
Height: 197cm
A tall defender who has also gone forward at times this year and has continued to develop nicely. He had an excellent year at under 18 level for Central District where he averaged 21.8 disposals and 5.9 marks across nine matches. He was also one South Australia’s better players at the National Championships. A competitive type who has a good natural leap and is very strong overhead. Is eligible to join Hawthorn under the father-son rule as the son of former Hawk Luke McCabe who played 138 games from 1995 to 2004.
James McLaughlin
Country: Ireland
County: County Galway
Date of Birth: 09/12/02
Height: 194cm
Potential tall defender who is a star of the Gaelic game. Won under 17 All Ireland honours as a midfielder and is now a member of Galway’s senior team with his agility and prowess overhead real features of his game. A talented all-round sportsman he also excels at basketball, soccer and golf. Has adapted quickly to the oval ball at training in Dublin and at tryouts in Australia and has the positive mindset to be capable of switching codes and being a success.
Ollie Murphy
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: East Brighton Vampires
Date of Birth: 16/09/05
Height: 200cm
A lightly built tall defender who sets up the play with his neat left-foot kicking. Shows real composure with the ball in hand and is strong overhead. Is also a capable decision maker in one-on-one contests on when to mark or spoil. Although new to playing in defence this season he adapted remarkably well. Was outstanding for Victoria Metro in the National Championships winning his team’s MVP award and All Australian honours after averaging 11.2 disposals and 4.5 marks per match. He capped off a great year playing in the Sandringham Dragons premiership team in the Coates Talent League.
Connor O’Sullivan
State: NSW/ACT
State League Club: Murray Bushrangers
Community Club: Albury
Date of Birth: 19/05/05
Height: 198cm
Athletic tall defender who was outstanding for the title-winning Allies at the National Championships winning their MVP award and All Australian honours. O’Sullivan averaged 17.8 disposals at 86 percent efficiency as well as averaging 8.2 marks and providing great rebound to lead an almost impassible Allies defence. He has an exciting natural leap, good speed and elite endurance highlighted with a top 10 placing in the 2km time trial at the AFL Draft Combine, where he recorded a time of 6:11. Also showed he can go forward and have an impact during his time with the Murray Bushrangers.
Will Patton
State: South Australia
State League Club: West Adelaide
Community Club: Mitcham
Date of Birth: 04/01/05
Height: 192cm
Left-footed defender who captained South Australia at the National Championships and was a consistent performer throughout, which was rewarded with All Australian honours. Showed he can play on both taller and smaller opponents and averaged 17 disposals at 89.7 percent efficiency and 4.8 marks. Uses the ball exceptionally well by hand and foot and sets up the play with his ball use from defence. Had shoulder surgery which curtailed the back end of his season but is on track to a complete recovery.
Ari Schoenmaker
Pronunciation: Show-en-maker
State: Tasmania
State League Club: Tasmania Devils
Community Club: Launceston
Date of Birth: 07/01/05
Height: 194cm
Left-footed tall defender who reads the game exceptionally well to intercept and is a prodigious kick of the ball. Had a very impressive back half of the year, which included being selected for the Allies in their final two matches of the National Championships. He showed the ability to also play on the wing and averaged 27 disposals at 75 percent efficiency as well as 5.9 marks and 9.6 rebound 50s in his eight matches with the Tasmania Devils in the Coates Talent League to be one of their most impressive performers.
Zane Zakostelsky
Pronunciation: Zac-oh-stel-ski
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: North Beach
Date of Birth: 14/12/05
Height: 196cm
Tall defender and ruckman who developed rapidly as the year progressed. Was selected in the final two games for Western Australia at the National Championships with his incept marking a feature. Was a consistent performer for Claremont at Colts level averaging 15.2 disposals in 13 matches and was best on ground in the club’s Grand Final win with 22 disposals and 14 hitouts. Followed up that performance by being one of the athletic stars of the National Combine. His standing vertical jump of 80cm ranked number one overall along with producing top-six times in the agility test (8.23 seconds) and 20m sprint (2.95 seconds). Potential Draft bolter who doesn’t turn 18 years until mid-December so has plenty of upside.
STATE COMBINE
Mutaz El Nour
Pronunciation: Moo-taz
State: Victoria
State League Club: Richmond VFL
Community Club: Caroline Springs
Date of Birth: 14/08/01
Height: 192cm
Tall defender with Sudanese heritage who has an exciting aerial game using his long reach and natural spring to mark and spoil. Is also a composed decision-maker and neat user of the ball by hand and foot. First came under notice as a member of the Western Bulldogs NGA program and has gone on to establish himself at VFL level playing 34 games over the past three years with the Northern Bullants and Richmond. Played 16 matches with the Tigers this year and continued his development averaging 12.9 disposals at 80 percent efficiency and 3.8 marks to remain on the radar of AFL scouts.
Oscar Gawith
Pronunciation: Gore-th
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: GWV Rebels
Community Club: Minyip-Murtoa
Date of Birth: 23/05/05
Height: 193cm
A strongly-built tall defender who excels in one-on-one contests and makes good decisions on when to mark and spoil. His consistent form with the GWV Rebels earned him selection for Victoria Country. Played the final two National Championship games including against the Allies with his containment of the highly regarded Jed Walter seeing him recognised as one of Victoria Country’s best. A courageous player under the ball with impressive mobility, he played nine games in the Coates Talent League averaging nine disposals.
Patrick Snell
State: Northern Territory/Queensland
State League Club: Brisbane Lions Academy
Community Club: Southern Districts/Wilston Grange
Date of Birth 18/07/05
Height: 194 cm
Left-footed tall defender who has also shown versatility playing for the Brisbane Lions Academy having the ability to also go forward and have an impact. Was a consistent player in five games for the Lions in the Coates Talent League, averaging 13.6 disposals. He then stepped up to become part of the Allies’ strong defensive unit during the National Championships. Was impressive during testing at the State Draft Combine held in Melbourne with his 3.03 seconds for the 20m sprint showing his speed off the mark.
Cooper Trembath
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: Park Orchards
Date of Birth: 17/10/05
Height: 193cm
Tall defender whose ability to read the game had him ranked first for intercept marks in the Coates Talent League. Played 13 matches for the Ranges averaging 6.8 marks as well as 14.3 disposals and was a member of the Grand Final team that went down to the Sandringham Dragons. Experienced a taste of VFL football with Frankston to add to his development in 2023. His natural impressive leap was highlighted during Combine testing where he recorded 88cm for the running vertical jump which was the fourth best result produced at the State Draft Combine in Melbourne.
Nick Williams
State: Queensland
State League Club: Gold Coast Suns Academy
Community Club: Surfers Paradise
Date of Birth: 02/05/04
Height: 190cm
Tall defender who is very strong in the contest particularly one-on-one in marking contests where he holds his ground well to mark or spoil. Played five matches for the Gold Coast Suns Academy in both the Coates Talent League and the VFL. Held down the key defensive post for the Allies in their unbeaten Championship-winning side averaging 10.8 disposals at 77 percent efficiency and 3.5 marks. Tested soundly at the State Draft Combine with his 6:41 for the 2km time trial a strong performance.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1054989/kevin-sheehans-2023-afl-draft-top-prospects-tall-defenders
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El Nour included in this list.
:gobdrop
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking
1. Harley Reid ............... 17/04/05 185cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country Midfield/forward
2. Jed Walter ................ 08/06/05 195cm 94kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Key forward
3. Zane Duursma .......... 20/08/05 189cm 80kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
4. Colby McKercher ....... 12/04/05 182cm 76kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Midfielder
5. Nick Watson ............. 24/02/05 170cm 68kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Forward
6. Daniel Curtin ............ 08/03/05 195cm 94kg Claremont/Western Australia Key defender/forward
7. Ryley Sanders .......... 21/01/05 186cm 85kg Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons/Allies Midfielder
8. Nate Caddy .............. 14/07/05 192cm 91kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Key forward/midfielder
9. Ethan Read .............. 07/07/05 200cm 88kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Ruck
10. Connor O'Sullivan ... 19/05/05 198cm 92kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Key defender/forward
11. Caleb Windsor ........ 09/06/05 185cm 74kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Midfielder (+3)
12. James Leake .......... 10/02/05 188cm 75kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Defender (+4)
13. Jordan Croft ........... 12/05/05 201cm 80kg Calder Cannons/Vic Metro Key forward (-2)
14. Jake Rogers ........... 02/03/05 172cm 69kg Gold Coast Academy/Broadbeach/Allies Midfielder (-2)
15. Darcy Wilson .......... 18/08/05 185cm 73kg Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
16. Koltyn Tholstrup ..... 28/06/05 186cm 86kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward/midfielder (+3)
17. Lance Collard ......... 26/03/05 185cm 66kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward (+7)
18. Riley Hardeman ...... 27/02/05 188cm 80kg Swan Districts/Western Australia Midfielder (-1)
19. Will McCabe ........... 29/09/05 197cm 81kg Central District/South Australia Key defender/forward (-1)
20. Ollie Murphy .......... 16/09/05 200cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Key defender (-7)
21. Harry DeMattia ...... 11/09/05 184cm 77kg Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (-1)
22. Archie Roberts ....... 18/11/05 184cm 77kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Defender
23. Tew Jiath ............... 02/03/05 187cm 71kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Defender (+2)
24. Charlie Edwards ..... 18/05/05 190cm 82kg Sandringham Dragon/Vic Metro Midfielder (+2)
25. Will Green ............. 08/09/05 204cm 89kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Ruck (-2)
26. Mitch Edwards ........ 02/06/05 206cm 88kg Peel Thunder/Western Australia Ruck (+1)
27. Archie Reid ............ 19/09/05 203cm 93kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Key forward (-6)
28. George Stevens ...... 10/08/05 189cm 93kg GWV Rebels/Vic Country Midfielder
29. Pheonix Gothard ..... 07/09/05 178cm 72kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Forward (new)
30. Taylor Goad ........... 24/05/05 206cm 97kg South Adelaide/South Australia Ruck (new)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1054452/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking
Dropped out from September's Top 30 rankings:
Jack Delean ........... 15/04/05 181cm 73kg South Adelaide/South Australia Forward (-2)
Ashton Moir ........... 15/04/05 188cm 84kg Glenelg/South Australia Forward (-1)
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Richmond have had a third and final interview with midfielder George Stevens.
The expectation is that Richmond could trade up if Stevens gets to around pick 25-26. Richmond's main target is still not decided for the draft.
The expectation is Richmond will draft at least 2 players.
Don’t get twisted with this, clubs will interview up to 50 players within a month before the draft. This is no induction this is the player Richmond will select come draft night.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
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Richmond have had a third and final interview with midfielder George Stevens.
The expectation is that Richmond could trade up if Stevens gets to around pick 25-26. Richmond's main target is still not decided for the draft.
The expectation is Richmond will draft at least 2 players.
Don’t get twisted with this, clubs will interview up to 50 players within a month before the draft. This is no induction this is the player Richmond will select come draft night.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
A taller version of Matt Arnott.... :shh
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Richmond have had a third and final interview with midfielder George Stevens.
The expectation is that Richmond could trade up if Stevens gets to around pick 25-26. Richmond's main target is still not decided for the draft.
The expectation is Richmond will draft at least 2 players.
Don’t get twisted with this, clubs will interview up to 50 players within a month before the draft. This is no induction this is the player Richmond will select come draft night.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
A taller version of Matt Arnott.... :shh
That powerfully built midfielder that we dumped in the forward line?
Kinda like graham.
A limited mid who we play out of position.
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Geelong will take Stevens with the pick they got for Esava if he's there.
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Richmond have had a third and final interview with midfielder George Stevens.
The expectation is that Richmond could trade up if Stevens gets to around pick 25-26. Richmond's main target is still not decided for the draft.
The expectation is Richmond will draft at least 2 players.
Don’t get twisted with this, clubs will interview up to 50 players within a month before the draft. This is no induction this is the player Richmond will select come draft night.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
A taller version of Matt Arnott.... :shh
That powerfully built midfielder that we dumped in the forward line?
Kinda like graham.
A limited mid who we play out of position.
Yes. Except taller. :shh
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I non ironically loved the biscuit. I feel like he would have flourished in our 2017 game plan
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RICHMOND
Draft picks after trade period: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
The Tigers didn’t have a first-round pick entering this year, after giving that up to GWS as part of the Jacob Hopper trade last year. Following the trade period, they still don’t have a first-round selection and have only marginally improved their draft hand for this year on the back of ruckman Ivan Soldo’s move to Port Adelaide. Richmond is confident in its draft haul from 2021, which saw it secure five top-30 picks. Adding some key position players could be a focus in this draft. Players like marking forwards Logan Morris and Luke Lloyd or intercept defenders Will Patton and Tew Jiath could appeal with the second-round picks if they are still on the board.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-every-clubs-current-picks-potential-targets-fathersons-academy-aces/news-story/9ce51dac6251f86424c84891cffad2e5
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The amount of picks AFL sides are likely to use in the upcoming National Draft per @CalTwomey via @AFLcomau:
• North Melbourne are expected to use five or six selections
• Geelong, St Kilda, West Coast and the Bulldogs are all likely to use four or five picks
• Gold Coast has four Academy players in its sights
• Carlton, Hawthorn, Essendon, Fremantle and GWS are all expected to use three picks
• Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide are all likely to decide between having two and three draft choices
• Sydney and Richmond likely to take two picks
• Collingwood and Port Adelaide to choose between one and two selections
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1716333217765310723
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Some whispers doing the rounds that we are showing interest in Taylor Goad.
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#38 Taylor Goad
Height: 206cm
Weight: 97kg
D.O.B: 24-04-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships
SNAPSHOT: “Taylor Goad is a developing ruckman with terrific speed and a steep rate of improvement.”
Considering he only really committed to football in December of last year, Taylor Goad has come a long way en route to being a likely draftee. The 206cm former basketballer showed enough promise in the early stages of this season to earn a state call-up and has never looked back.
That was the moment Goad says he began to find his feet in football, going on to play a full national carnival and helping South Adelaide take out the SANFL Under 18s premiership. He also blitzed the combine testing, registering repeat sub-three second 20m sprints – remarkable given his height.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/taylor-goad/
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I'd be taking the best KPF available with our first 3 picks. Most will be a punt but worthwhile.
Look at Larkey and Lewis.
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Shyte draft hand in a shyte draft - might as well just trade our first three picks for a future first then just grab Mannagh & Sellers with 68 & 86, upgrade a rookie with pick 100+ then rookie one of Yassine, El Nour , Brindley or Lefau... :shh
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Will Patton looks like a replacement for Grimes. Really like the look of Connor O,Sullivan who will go pretty early and would take on bottom ager Zacostelsky if he got to us..
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Shyte draft hand in a shyte draft - might as well just trade our first three picks for a future first then just grab Mannagh & Sellers with 68 & 86, upgrade a rookie with pick 100+ then rookie one of Yassine, El Nour , Brindley or Lefau... :shh
Thank god you’re not in our recruiting team :help
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Gold Coast's pick 24 is receiving interest from rivals, especially with the Suns potentially needing more draft points in order to attain their academy-linked draft prospects
@CalTwomey via @gettable_afl
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1717039799377498126
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Phanton draft from one of the BF draftee watchers:
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And as a treat out of boredom, here's a 2 round Phantom draft I made immediately post trade period. I have very little idea of list needs so apologies if you got a player a spot you're stocked for. Missing picks are because of matched bids, or in Melbourne's case because I think they'll only take 2 players
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/post-trade-2-round-phantom-png.1836901/)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2023-draft-thread.1348092/post-81582888
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Shyte draft hand in a shyte draft - might as well just trade our first three picks for a future first then just grab Mannagh & Sellers with 68 & 86, upgrade a rookie with pick 100+ then rookie one of Yassine, El Nour , Brindley or Lefau... :shh
Notwithstanding your typical outlook on things, lots of people say this garbage every year.
Shallow draft, next year is better, super draft, crap draft picks etc.
Year after year it's basically the same, there are always gun players deep in the draft and plenty of the top 10 will turn into glorified potatoes.
We need to take our picks and do our best/hope for the best.
The real measure of our clubs new coaching team and list management will be whether they can get two good players this year. One should be manageable and three would be amazing.
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Pfft...it's Reid and the rest....just gonna end up getting another bunch of of useless skinny flankers and the next generation of list cloggers anyway, shame the rules force us to draft players - should be allowed pass on all our picks and just avoid this year's crapfest altogether #spudfarm :shh
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Larkey says hello haha.
But yeah let's be honest it's the clubs fault. So many HBFs and none of them are worth trading out bar Short which I wouldn't do.
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Gold Coast's pick 24 is receiving interest from rivals, especially with the Suns potentially needing more draft points in order to attain their academy-linked draft prospects
@CalTwomey via @gettable_afl
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1717039799377498126
Not likely to happen given our picks, but to try this, we would have to offer up both picks 29 + 41 for pick 24 and then see if we could get a future pick in return as the Suns would gain 280 pts. The Suns have Brisbane's future 2nd, Essendon future 3rd and their own future 3rd rounder. It would enable us to load up to target next year's draft.
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Gold Coast's pick 24 is receiving interest from rivals, especially with the Suns potentially needing more draft points in order to attain their academy-linked draft prospects
@CalTwomey via @gettable_afl
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1717039799377498126
Not likely to happen given our picks, but to try this, we would have to offer up both picks 29 + 41 for pick 24 and then see if we could get a future pick in return as the Suns would gain 280 pts. The Suns have Brisbane's future 2nd, Essendon future 3rd and their own future 3rd rounder. It would enable us to load up to target next year's draft.
Smart move - we should defiantly do this and try and grab Brisbanes F2
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I say we roll the dice and try and snag the next larkey or Mitchell Lewis as echoed by others in this thread
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(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/post-trade-2-round-phantom-png.1836901/)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2023-draft-thread.1348092/post-81582888
Archer Reid
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBMnur7BLU0
Height: 203cm
Weight: 94kg
D.O.B: 19-09-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys
(https://cdn.central.rookieme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Archer-Reid.jpg)
SNAPSHOT: “A highly mobile forward target, Archer Reid is difficult to stop on the lead and clean below his knees at 203cm.”
Archer Reid came into the 2023 season as one of the most highly touted tall talents, and while he didn’t quite hit the heights of a promising bottom-aged campaign this year, arguably remains among the top 25 prospects. There’s a lot to be said about Reid’s perseverance after he fought back from early form struggles and gradually found his feet, stringing together a purple patch in the middle of the Talent League season. A return of 11 goals over the course of just three games served as a reminder of his significant potential.
The 203cm brother of Zach Reid is the third of his siblings to graduate through the Gippsland Power pathway, earning plenty of plaudits and representative honours along the way. He turned out for Vic Country over two Under 18 National Championships and was a member of this year’s AFL Academy, playing against VFL opposition in two showcase games. He’s a prospect with a wide draft range, but more than enough fans to get him a chance at the next level. Once in the system, he could thrive.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/archer-reid/
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Cooper Simpson
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0rSZckYAQ
Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHdBpjiilM
Height: 181cm
Weight: 79kg
D.O.B: 13-02-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/media/cooper-simpson-3-of-1-jpg.102359/full)
SNAPSHOT: “Cooper Simpson is a clean and quick midfielder who hits the scoreboard and has noted leadership qualities.”
There was plenty of promise surrounding Cooper Simpson coming into his draft year, having produced a sparkling bottom-aged campaign. The Dandenong Stingrays star was part of the region’s side which made the 2022 Coates Talent League Grand Final, playing 14 games and quickly graduating from forward to midfielder.
He duly earned a spot in the 2023 AFL Academy and was named co-captain of the Stingrays alongside Harry DeMattia. Representative honours followed, though Simpson’s National Championship campaign was cut short after sustaining a nasty corked thigh in Vic Country’s opening game.
That wasn’t before an opportunity with Casey Demons in the VFL though, where Simpson debuted in Round 5. He returned from injury late in the year for Dandenong, recapturing some of his best form and earning a National Draft Combine invite.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/cooper-simpson/
Murray Bushrangers’ Darcy Wilson said: “I think Cooper Simpson. He gets talked about a little, but he missed out on the national carnival, which probably didn’t help him. He’s such a professional and if I had an early pick, I think I’d take him. He played some very good footy last year, as well as this year when he hasn’t been injured. His footy IQ is pretty high, he makes good decisions with ball in hand and then he’s pretty good with his running ability and he‘s quick.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-news-prospects-nominate-bolters-james-leake-arie-schoenmaker-ashton-moir-charlie-edwards-rankings-order-date/news-story/eb73c87b18ab64d148ca14f026a584e1
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If we could come out of the draft with Archer Reid and Cooper Simpson, I would be very happy considering our position.
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Clubs have to use at least three picks at the national draft, however that number can include upgraded players from their rookie lists.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1057418/up-to-12-clubs-set-to-upgrade-rookies-ahead-of-draft-robbie-fox-mason-wood-nathan-murray
So presumably given Miller's upgrade, we will have two picks in the national draft.
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Another rumour doing the rounds is that we are also interested in Kane McAuliffe.
Kane McAuliffe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIWuRRqlmFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lu6WB4WgHU
Height: 187cm
Weight: 86kg
D.O.B: 01-03-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships
SNAPSHOT: “An enforcer on the inside, Kane McAuliffe does plenty of grunt work through midfield and has a deceptively powerful athletic profile.”
Coming into his top-age year as one of South Australia’s most highly touted prospects, Kane McAuliffe proved an integral part of the state’s Under 18 side. The Port Augusta product came through the ranks at North Adelaide and progressed nicely since opting to board at Prince Alfred College in Adelaide, taking out the James Goss Medal for his school football dominance in 2021. He went on to have success with the Roosters and played in the losing 2022 SANFL Under 18 Grand Final, before being selected in the annual Under 17 Futures showcase.
This year, McAuliffe turned out six times in the junior grade and also broke through for a senior berth at Reserves level, playing seven games for North who fell short of finals in each competition. Some of his best form was observed at the Under 18 National Championships, where McAuliffe brought bull-like intensity to the midfield battle and set a consistent tone in what was otherwise a struggling side. He capped off his campaign by tearing up the National Draft Combine, achieving top five results in three of the five testing events to demonstrate his explosive streak.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2023/06/24/eb9d0ff8-136f-4dd1-bfbf-29d2fd137959/hGF0OVxF.JPG?width=708&height=1062)
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/kane-mcauliffe/
North Adelaide utility Kane McAuliffe has shown his impressive athleticism in front of recruiting staff at the 2023 AFL Draft Combine.
Despite battling injuries at times throughout the year, McAuliffe placed in the top ten in three of the physical tests at Melbourne’s Margaret Court Arena, highlighting his well-rounded athletic base.
McAuliffe’s power and speed shone through in the 20m sprint, where he was the fastest South Australian and fifth quickest overall with a time of 2.930 seconds.
Earlier in the combine he was the first Croweater across the line in the 2km time trial, finishing in six minutes and 26 seconds.
The Rooster also featured among the top players in the country in both the running and standing vertical jumps tests, with heights of 95cm and 77cm respectively.
https://sanfl.com.au/league/news/2023-afl-draft-combine-wrap/
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Sam Clohesy is firmly in the sights of multiple AFL clubs.
The 20-year-old rebounding defender from Werribee could now be an early second-round pick in next month’s national draft.
@chriscavanagh1 via @heraldsunsport
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1717786794576715811
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Accordingly to multiple inside sources, George Stevens could be on his way to Adelaide.
Adelaide won’t select Stevens with their first pick being 10, but the expectation is that currently pick 14 or 20 will be used on Stevens.
Potential massive blow, easily our number 1 target.
leaves a massive question on who we target.
Archer Reid should be off the board by our pick as well, so that leaves us with a massive hole, do we pounce on bolters like Riley Weatherill or go with Logan Morris, or go on a route change and pursue a X-Factor type player?
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1718181726827274531
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Hartley & co. to go for the magic beans that are just string beans and mung beans as usual.... :shh
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Van Rooyen's younger brother is in this draft.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/28/the-brother-of-demons-forward-receiving-draft-interest-from-interstate-clubs/
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Take a punt tiges.
Might help lure JVR one day too.
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Another phantom draft from another BF draftee watcher:
Pick 31, Richmond
Phoenix Gothard
Small Forward 178cm/72kg
Age: 18 (September 7, 2005)
Allies | Murray Bushrangers
Plays like: Lincoln McCarthy
Profile: Crafty and creative little forward whose speed forward of centre is a force
Rationale: With no first round selection, the Tigers need to make the most of their selections and take the best available. At this stage it’s Gothard who projects to be better than any small forward currently getting games at Tiger land. His skill and pressure will be loved at Punt Road, and he is a reliable goal kicker too.
Pick 42, Richmond
Logan Morris
Key Forward 191cm/90kg
Age: 18 (October 5, 2005)
VIC Metro | Western Jets
Plays like: Brody Mihocek
Profile: Tough contested marking forward with a great set shot routine
Rationale: Should he last this long, he won’t drift much further. Morris albeit a touch undersized for a true key forward, has clean strong hands and a great kick for goal. A great fit for the Tigers.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adzys-2023-phantom-two-rounds-so-far.1374040/
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Meet the young guns who could be on their way to your AFL club next month
Marc McGowan
The Age
October 30, 2023
The AFL draft is only three weeks away, but there is still time for plenty to change.
We spoke with recruiters from almost every club to get the lowdown on this year’s best prospects, discussing their strengths and weaknesses and where they might land in the order on November 20 and 21.
This draft offers something for everyone from a positional sense – and there are the usual academy and father-son prospects – but there are fewer safe picks than most years and an expectation things could get wild from midway through the first round.
Here are our top 40 prospects in the 2023 draft crop.
Scroll to the bottom of this article to see the draft order in full and each pick’s history. Plus, search club-by-club to see what draft hand your team has.
1. Harley Reid
There’s a reason Reid is discussed ad nauseam – he is a mighty prospect in the mould of Dustin Martin and Christian Petracca, who can be equally impactful up forward as at centre bounces. The Tongala teenager has somehow absorbed the overwhelming hype to perform at every level this season, from the Talent League to the national championships and the VFL, even while dealing with a pre-championships concussion before a knee injury that meant he completed only interviews at the combine. The dual under-18 All-Australian thrives on big moments, has an outgoing personality and looks a surefire AFL star in the making.
2. Jed Walter
The sole source of intrigue here is where a bid comes for Walter, who is certain to become a Sun on draft night. He may have challenged Reid for No.1 honours in an open draft. The hulking key forward already has an incredible presence and is almost as dangerous hunting defenders when he doesn’t have the Sherrin. That defensive intent is rare for someone in his position, and he is tipped to slot straight into Gold Coast’s senior side. Walter was a bit wayward in front of goal at times during the championships, but that is not typically a problem. Only he and Reid are two-time under-18 All-Australians among this draft crop.
3. Colby McKercher
McKercher could hardly have done more in his draft season and is one of the most exciting talents up for grabs. Averaged 30 disposals across Talent League and championships level, and his devastating run and long left-foot kicking were eye-catching. Finished runner-up to Allies teammate Ryley Sanders for the Larke Medal as the best player at the national championships. Rarely a game goes by without the Tasmanian kicking a goal, which only further endears him to recruiters, and he projects as someone who will be able to play on the inside and outside in the AFL. A foot injury hampered McKercher in the latter stages of the season, but he looms as a walk-up start for whichever club selects him.
4. Zane Duursma
Comes from a family of AFL/W footballers and has the potential to be the best of the lot, with younger brother Willem also rising through the ranks. Duursma plays his best football in attack – he kicked three goals or more in seven of his 12 Talent League appearances – but can also go through the midfield, where his high football IQ and silky skills make him a damaging player. Had an up-and-down national championships, but finished on a high with four goals, 22 disposals and 10 marks, a performance that laid the foundations for a purple patch of form for Gippsland. Is not expected to fall outside the top five.
5. Nick Watson
The media call him “the Wizard”, his teammates and agent go with “the Bulldog” and recruiters are almost in unison in predicting he will become an AFL star. Watson is a natural forward capable of the miraculous who is lethal at ground level or marking on the lead, and a brilliant set-shot exponent. Some talent scouts expect him to be as successful as the likes of Eddie Betts and Stephen Milne – small forwards who kicked more than 570 goals each – but they would like to see some defensive improvement. Watson laid only three tackles across his last five Talent League games. Recruiters’ other query on him was his lack of impact against senior opposition for the AFL Academy.
6. Ryley Sanders
Won this year’s Larke Medal as the best player at the under-18 championships while the storyline of North Melbourne trying to gain pre-draft access to their Next Generation Academy prospect bubbled away in the background. Sanders is ultra-professional and impressed recruiters with a more selfless playing style in 2023, as well as finding the ball in more attacking areas that enabled him to increase his impact. A proud Tasmanian attending Melbourne Grammar on a bursary scholarship, the prolific teenager wins disposals for fun and clubs are clamouring to get their hands on him.
7. Nate Caddy
Calls himself a key forward, even if some others hesitate to do the same because of his height – but his supporters believe he is tall enough. Fearlessly attacks the Sherrin in the air and is a dynamic athlete, which was illustrated with his top-10 result in the agility test at the combine. Was solid rather than outstanding at the championships, after missing the opener while recovering from chicken pox, but kicked loads of goals at Talent League level and also won his share of the ball. He is sometimes unleashed as a centre-bounce battering ram, too. The nephew of premiership Tiger Josh suffered a fractured fibula in the pre-season.
8. Daniel Curtin
The assumption is Curtin will be West Coast’s target if they hand over the coveted No.1 selection. Either way, he is certain to be snapped up in the top 10 of the draft. Curtin is best known as a defender, but his increasing aptitude as a big-bodied midfielder has earned him even more admirers. A hamstring issue suffered in Claremont’s Colts grand final triumph sidelined him from combine testing, but there is little left for him to prove. Achieved All-Australian selection at the championships and performed well at WAFL senior level as well. Some recruiters believe he is more likely to be a third tall than a No.1 defender in the AFL.
9. Ethan Read
An awesome athlete, Read is bound for the Suns as one of four club academy prospects who will graduate to the AFL. He was the under-18 All-Australian ruckman then went on to be one of three footballers at the combine to finish the two-kilometre time trial in less than six minutes. He was more than 15 centimetres taller than the other two who achieved that feat. Read has the endurance and skills of a much smaller man, and could thrive at either end of the ground if he is not rucking. Some talent scouts rate him the best ruck prospect in decades. New Gold Coast coach Damien Hardwick might need to get creative to maximise Read’s rare package of talents.
10. Connor O’Sullivan
Silenced many of his doubters and surged into top-10 calculations with a brilliant national championships for the Allies. O’Sullivan gobbled up intercept marks down back on his way to winning the maiden titlists’ MVP award. Can also swing forward if required, while his eighth placing in the two-kilometre time trial at the combine again showed his impressive running ability for someone of his size. The knock on him is that he isn’t overly quick or agile, and his form tailed off in the latter stages of the season, but he enjoyed a very good campaign.
11. Caleb Windsor
There is a chance Windsor could be a top-10 pick after a blistering finish to the year that banished memories of his slow start, but if not, it should not be much after that. Anyone who wanted to see more from him after the championships ended – and there were a few of those – was satisfied by season’s end. Windsor has the ideal wingman profile, with an excellent mixture of speed, endurance and kicking ability. There are recruiters who are reluctant to pick a wingman so high in the draft without confidence he could develop his inside game, but others don’t share that view.
12. James Leake
The Tasmanians are making their mark in this year’s draft crop. The hype was already building around Leake before he earned under-18 All-Australian selection but went to another level once he swung forward and illustrated he could be a match-winner down that end. He kicked 15 goals in his last five matches in the Talent League, but most recruiters still view him primarily as an intercept defender, with one likening him to Tom Doedee given their similar height and playing style. Leake’s ability to perform well as a midfielder during the finals was another tick in his versatility box.
13. Jake Rogers
The only reason Rogers might not be drafted this high is if his academy ties to the Suns mean he slides a bit, which several clubs think could happen. But on ability and performance, this unerringly consistent ball magnet deserves to be here and would not look out of place in the top 10. Rogers was named the AFL Academy’s best player across clashes with Carlton and Port Adelaide’s VFL sides, made the under-18 All-Australian team and had VFL exposure. A smart footballer with a team-first attitude who will be a welcome addition for Gold Coast.
14. Darcy Wilson
The quietly spoken Wilson joins Windsor as the standout outside midfielders in the 2023 draft class, but he is slightly different because of his success in attack. Recruiters believe he could serve as a high half-forward at AFL level. Finished second in the two-kilometre time trial at the combine but his gut running and agility were well-known before that. Won a stack of the ball on a weekly basis in the Talent League and showed improvement with his contested work, leaving him as good as certain to be picked somewhere in the mid-teens.
15. Jordan Croft
Croft has nominated as a father-son prospect for the Bulldogs and will add to the club’s group of promising giants – but where he lands in the draft will be interesting. There is talk the Swans might bid on him with their first pick and recruiters rave about his physical tools at his height, whereas others were wary about the chasm between his best and worst games. Croft will need time to develop but will be afforded that at the Kennel, where there will be no rush for him to play senior football.
16. Will McCabe
The son of ex-Hawk Luke is Hawthorn-bound as a father-son selection. Some recruiters rank him ahead of Croft and Ollie Murphy as a key-position prospect, believing his combination of height and speed is ideal for the role he will fill down back in the AFL. Talent scouts also liked seeing McCabe show more aggression. Did not dominate at the championships, then developed a stress fracture in his left foot afterwards. Returned for the SANFL finals, only for a pelvis issue to flare that sidelined him from combine testing and has him on a rehabilitation program.
17. Koltyn Tholstrup
Rival clubs believe Tholstrup could go as early as 13 but won’t make it out of the teens. Unlike most of this year’s crop, the Subiaco young gun spent most of his season playing against men, where he proved he could fulfil a defined role. Also performed strongly at the championships. Tholstrup is more proven as a forward, where his energy and effort make him highly effective, but there is intrigue about his potential as a midfielder. His larger-than-life personality comes up in any chat about him – but always as a positive.
18. Riley Hardeman
Hardeman’s exceptional kicking skills on his powerful left boot, leadership and performance across several years make him one of the safest picks this year. He captained WA at the championships and was one of his state’s best players in a challenging campaign, including highlighting his improved intercepting prowess. Hardeman also stood up athletically at the combine. Recruiters would not be surprised if West Coast target him, dependent on what they do with the No.1 selection.
19. Ollie Murphy
Has gone from one of the biggest risers of the year to a potential slider. Murphy is still one of the toughest players to place, given his height is coveted down back, he won Vic Metro’s MVP award and he was one of the few defenders to hold their own against Walter. The concerns range from his competitiveness to his so-so speed, as well as an underwhelming finish to the season. But with all that said, Murphy is comfortably among the best key defensive prospects and there are not expected to be many of his kind in next year’s class.
20. Lance Collard
Collard is rocketing up the order and could be drafted in the mid-teens. Likened to Collingwood’s Norm Smith medallist Bobby Hill for his speed and agility – both of which he ranked highly in at the combine – and tendency to produce the spectacular, from a sky-scraping mark to a miraculous goal. Finished the WAFL Colts season with consecutive bags of five goals. There is a gulf between Collard’s best and worst, but recruiters love his upside.
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21. Archer Reid
Reid still has plenty to prove, but recruiters put it simply in his case: there are not many 200-centimetre-plus footballers who can move like he does. The brother of Essendon’s Zach – who was a top-10 pick three years ago – is a polarising prospect, but there are enough clubs intrigued by him that he is tipped to be grabbed in the 20s. Reid’s increased ruck exposure late in the season also enhanced his reputation, as well as answering some of the criticism about his competitiveness.
22. Will Graham
This ranking might surprise some, but may not even be high enough, with the possibility the future Sun attracts an opposition bid in the teens. Gold Coast are well-positioned to match bids on all four of their star academy graduates, but would prefer if Graham went later than this. Can play as a midfielder or at half-back and brings speed, athleticism and toughness. Many recruiters think he could step straight into AFL football next year. Has strongly hinted to scouts that he wants to remain on the Gold Coast.
23. Arie Schoenmaker
Schoenmaker’s raking left boot was a weapon for every team he played for this year – he averaged six more kicks than anyone else in the Talent League – and undoubtedly will transfer to whichever AFL club takes a chance on him. In a draft that thins out quickly, that strength, plus his intercepting, should ensure the defender finds a home in the 20s. There are some questions on his contest work but others off the field, based in part on an indiscretion in a Devils training camp that cost him the chance to make an early impact in his draft season.
24. Charlie Edwards
Everything changed for Edwards once his midfield exposure increased late in the season, coinciding with Dragons teammate Will Brown going forward more. He grabbed that opportunity with both hands to produce a withering finish, which greatly impressed recruiters looking for upside. Edwards’ height, smart decision-making, and the way he covers the ground are among his strengths, with his ability to also play forward another tick. Recruiters think his upside might be greater than others in this range.
25. Taylor Goad
Relatively unknown at the start of the year, Goad is suddenly emerging as a potential first-rounder. His vast improvement throughout the season and incredible speed for his size – he ran a sub-three-second 20-metre sprint at the combine – saw him pass many of his ruck peers. The former basketballer is still raw and doesn’t yet have the football nous of fellow top ruck prospects, but many recruiters believe that will come with more exposure to high-level coaching.
26. Harry DeMattia
There will be risks taken at this stage of the draft, but recruiters know what they will get from DeMattia. The Stingrays and Vic Country co-captain is a rock-solid footballer with above-average athleticism and speed. He works hard, is versatile and has leadership in spades. Probably projects as a forward at AFL level, but some think he could end up down the other end. DeMattia also represented Australia in underage cricket as a batsman.
27. Tew Jiath
It is all about the potential upside with Jiath, whose brother Changkuoth plays for Hawthorn. The younger Jiath, another defender who loves to take the game on, is a Hawks Next Generation Academy product, but would need to fall outside the top 40 to be eligible to the club through that means, which is highly unlikely after his breakout second half of the season. He is considered more advanced than his older sibling at the same age and recruiters think the possible reward outweighs the risk.
28. Will Green
This is the year to grab a ruckman, and Green is one of the new-age big men with impressive endurance, which he proved at the combine. He could be the second ruckman taken behind Ethan Read, with Taylor Goad and Mitch Edwards other contenders, and Vigo Visentini rising. Green was the starting ruckman in the Talent League team of the year, in a nod to his strong season. His height, mobility and improvement all make him appealing.
29. Phoenix Gothard
Recruiters preferred Gothard’s form throughout the championships for the title-winning Allies to what he produced at the Bushrangers in a team that struggled. His performances in those contrasting scenarios were understandable given his predominant role as a small forward. Gothard’s combine testing confirmed what was already known: he is fast, exciting and athletic, with tricks that most players this late in the draft don’t possess. There is also a belief that extra exposure to an elite training environment will take him to another level.
30. Mitch Edwards
The top-10, and even first-round, hype is long gone, but Edwards still has fans, even if there are fewer of them at season’s end. He is still not expected to be available beyond pick 40, which would enable Fremantle to match any bid on their Next Generation Academy player. However, it would no longer be a surprise if he slipped into the late 30s. Edwards’ critics point to his running, competitiveness and general lack of development, but he slashed about a minute off his two-kilometre time at the combine, which was a positive. You can’t teach his height, and his skills are good.
31. Angus Hastie
It’s been a steep rise for the ex-basketballer and cricketer in the past 18 months since bursting onto the scene with the Falcons. There is even some suggestion Hastie could be a top-25 pick, with a third-place finish in the agility test at the combine rounding out his draft resume. The dashing defender performed well at the under-18 championships and was a consistently strong contributor in the Talent League, where he was effective as a stopper and interceptor.
32. Zane Zakostelsky
Zakostelsky’s size and excellent athletic profile have sent him soaring up draft boards, with both assets coveted in the AFL, especially in a market that proved itself desperate for key defenders this year. He was among the standouts in combine testing, ranking in the top 10 in four events: the 20-metre sprint, agility and the standing and running vertical jumps. But the other consistent theme with Zakostelsky is not so positive – his kicking. It is a reason not to draft him for some recruiters, but others think it’s fixable and could have him taken closer to pick 25.
33. Archie Roberts
Roberts is universally viewed as a rebounding defender now, whereas there were some midfield claims earlier in the season. He was named at half-back in the under-18 All-Australian team and has a similar draft range to Hastie, behind Hardeman and Leake among defenders. Some recruiters are still unconvinced about Roberts, in part due to questions about his contested game, and they do not expect a non-Victorian club to select him, but his penetrating kicking is a plus.
34. Caiden Cleary
Cleary will graduate from Sydney’s academy to their AFL list, barring a major surprise, after enjoying a prolific season as an on-baller, including performing well at VFL level. He may not have blazing speed or elite kicking skills, but his consistently big numbers, under-18 All-Australian selection and equal-fifth finish in the two-kilometre time trial at the combine won’t leave him tumbling too far in the draft. Could Cleary be the Swans’ next draft bargain?
35. Aiden O’Driscoll
Another draft combine standout, the brother of Dockers Nathan and Emma clocked the quickest 20-metre sprint (2.871 seconds) but also placed top 10 in the two-kilometre time trial, agility test and the standing and running vertical jumps. The knocks on O’Driscoll are his lack of size and not winning enough of the Sherrin, but not everyone shares those concerns. Others are enamoured with his athleticism and think he fits the high half-forward role perfectly.
36. Logan Morris
One of the most polarising players in the draft pool. There are few concerns about Morris’ skill or performance – some argue he is the best contested mark in this year’s class – but recruiters are worried his running limitations (speed and endurance) will make it harder for him to thrive in the AFL at his height. His admirers think his in-game running is better than his combine results showed, and he has a history of kicking bulk goals. Played as a forward and defender at the championships.
37. Cooper Simpson
An injury-marred season made it more challenging for Simpson to press his draft claims, but he finished the year well for the Stingrays. There are different schools of thought about him as an AFL prospect: some are convinced he is better as a forward – where his decision-making and good skills can thrive – but others would select him only if they think he can be a midfielder, on which the jury is still out. The consensus is Simpson is a good all-round player without a major weapon.
38. Luamon Lual
There is a realistic scenario where Lual slides beyond the first 40 picks and into the laps of the Western Bulldogs, who have his draft rights at that stage as a Next Generation Academy prospect. He performed well at the championships – sparking suggestions he might be picked in the 20s – and his defensive instincts, courage and speed appeal to clubs. However, Lual’s decision-making and ball use are why he could fall down the order.
39. Vigo Visentini
Visentini shares a similar aggressive and physical playing style to his brother Dante, a developing ruckman at Port Adelaide. There are recruiters who have more confidence in him than other big men in this top 40, comfortable that his size, running ability and rate of improvement make him a better prospect. Others are not quite as bullish, but believe the dearth of ruckmen next year should only help Visentini’s cause.
40. Koen Sanchez
Played predominantly as a midfielder for East Fremantle, and was a big ball-winner. However, Sanchez also spent time as a forward at the under-18 championships – where he earned All-Australian honours – and recruiters expect him to play that position more in the AFL. Has dealt with repeat injuries in recent years, and there are some question marks on whether he is quick enough to be a small forward at the top level.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/meet-the-young-guns-who-could-be-on-their-way-to-your-afl-club-next-month-20231022-p5ee4s.html
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Moir not even top 40 now. :shh
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Phantom Draft: How the first 27 picks should fall
HeraldSun
30 October 2023
The AFL draft is only weeks away. Who is your club circling? See how the opening round will play out, with a whopping 27 picks expected.
1. West Coast - Harley Reid
Bendigo Pioneers, 187cm Midfielder/Forward
The Eagles don’t look like giving up the prized No.1 pick unless they get a ‘knock your socks off’ offer – like picks two and three from North Melbourne in return. Reid has repeatedly said he is happy to move west, where he would be capable of having immediate impact through the midfield next year. As Essendon coach Brad Scott said in August, “the hype is real” with Reid. He is a serious talent with power, sublime skills and a signature fend-off.
2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter - matching North Melbourne bid
Gold Coast Suns Academy, 197cm Forward
Rival clubs believe it would be “highway robbery” for the Suns if Walter doesn’t get a bid from the Kangaroos here. Some believe the power forward – who looks up to Carlton’s Charlie Curnow – would be in the conversation for pick 1 if he was not a Suns Academy player. Walter has overcome a knee injury which ended his season early and will be ready to attack pre-season.
3. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
Tasmania Devils, 180cm Midfielder
If the Kangaroos keep these picks, lock in the gun Tasmanian midfielder for one of them. Recruiters label McKercher a “superstar” and many have had him pegged as a top-three pick all year. He has speed, agility, sees the game well and makes good decisions. McKercher was a consistent performer across the season, including producing some stunning games for the Allies in the national championships.
4. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
Gippsland Power, 189cm Forward
The Kangaroos could probably do with West Australian key defender Daniel Curtin, but it will be hard to pass up this mid-sized X-Factor forward. Duursma had an up-and-down start to the season as he battled injury and illness, but ticked every box in the second half of the year. He was a clear best-on-ground for Vic Country in the biggest game of the year against Vic Metro, standing out with his skills, creativity and ability to win the ball in the air and at ground level.
5. Hawthorn - Nick Watson
Eastern Ranges, 170cm Forward
If Duursma was to be overlooked by the Kangaroos, he wouldn’t get past Hawthorn. There is also a school of thought that the Hawks could look to West Australian key defender Daniel Curtin with this pick. However, livewire small forward Watson looks the most likely option. The player who has become known as ‘The Wizard’ can make something out of nothing inside-50 with his smarts, quick reflexes and wicked goal sense.
6. Western Bulldogs - Ryley Sanders
Sandringham Dragons, 185cm Midfielder
The Bulldogs have also been linked to Watson, but expect it to be Sanders if The Wizard is gone. An old-fashioned onballer, Sanders is a bull in the contest and improved his fitness to become more damaging on the spread this year. He was Mr Consistent across all levels of football this season and averaged 35.8 disposals and five clearances for the Allies to win the Larke Medal as the best player of the national championships.
7. Gold Coast - Ethan Read – matching Melbourne bid
Gold Coast Suns Academy, 202cm Ruck
He’s listed as a ruckman and has been likened to Dean Cox in that role, but some say that Read could develop into a versatile everywhere man like Geelong’s Mark Blicavs given his size and running ability. Read finished third in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine to stamp what was already known about his athletic abilities. Some clubs rate him a top-five talent and he would be a good fit for a Demons side which has lost Brody Grundy and Luke Jackson over the past 13 months, so a bid here would not surprise.
8. Melbourne - James Leake
Tasmania Devils, 187cm Defender/Forward
There was a serious spike in interest around Leake in the second half of the season and all 18 clubs interviewed him at the national draft combine. There is now a feeling that the Tasmanian utility has pushed up into top-10 calculations and the Demons could be the first to pounce ahead of other interested parties in GWS and Geelong. Leake played as an intercept defender for the Allies at the under-18 national championships, before spending time forward and through the midfield with the Tamanian Devils in the back half of the Coates Talent League season. He is strong in the contest, has great athletic attributes and has proven his flexibility.
9. GWS - Daniel Curtin
Claremont, 197cm Defender/Midfielder
A West Australian who has been likened to Fremantle great Matthew Pavlich, Curtin was discussed as a top-three prospect earlier in the year. However, expectations now are that he could slide a few spots, leaving the Giants as a potential beneficiary. Curtain has said he is happy to move interstate, but West Coast is known to be a big fan. With live trading available to clubs, could the Eagles could offer up something juicy to the Giants to take this pick and Curtin? If not, GWS would be pretty happy to snag a player who shines as a key defender but also showed plenty as a big-bodied midfielder this year.
10. Geelong - Nate Caddy
Northern Knights, 193cm Forward
The Cats have also been linked to hard-running wingman Darcy Wilson, but marking forward Caddy would be hard to pass up if he’s still on the board. Melbourne also has interest in Caddy, but if it takes Leake then there’s every chance Caddy gets through to the Cats. Given Geelong’s ageing key forward stocks – Jeremy Cameron is 30 and Tom Hawkins is 35 – it makes sense to bring in some new blood. Recruiters believe Caddy has the potential to be a Charlie Curnow-type in time given his aerial abilities, power and strength.
11. Essendon - Connor O’Sullivan
Murray Bushrangers, 198cm Defender
Given they lost Brandon Zerk-Thatcher during the trade period and they have been unable to get Zach Reid’s body right to this point, the Bombers are expected to address their defensive woes with O’Sullivan at this pick. The backman has a body that is ready-built to step up to the AFL and has the height to play on the monster forwards in the game. While most comfortable in defence, the Albury product has also shown an ability to hit the scoreboard when he has been used at the other end of the ground on occasion in recent years.
12. Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
Murray Bushrangers, 186cm Midfielder
The Crows need a key defender most of all, but if O’Sullivan is gone then they might look to address a different list need here. Adelaide is a side that has plenty of inside grunt, but adding some line-breaking run on the outside would not hurt. Wilson – who has been labelled a better runner than Carlton’s Oliver Hollands – could bring that. He can play on a wing or as a half-forward, has good football IQ, is a thumping kick and can hit the scoreboard.
13. Melbourne - Caleb Windsor
Eastern Ranges, 184cm Midfielder
The mail is that Melbourne is just about set on selecting Windsor with its second selection here. The Eastern Ranges product is another player to have shot up draft boards in the second half of the season, even more so after a strong showing at the national draft combine. The wingman had a big under-18 national championships with Vic Metro and is seen as a player with real weapons with his speed, foot skills and decision making. He is a modern-day wingman who most clubs would love to have.
14. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers – matching Sydney bid
Gold Coast Suns Academy, 170cm Midfielder
The Swans aren’t afraid to make a bid on draft night and if Rogers fell much further than this it would be a steal for the Suns. The midfielder has been likened to Touk Miller as a tough, quick, agile and efficient inside midfielder who has clean hands and brings great leadership. Having finished school last year, he has already been treated like a first-year player at Gold Coast this year. A back injury ended his season early, but Rogers should be ready to go for pre-season and will push to break into a strong midfield group at the Suns next year.
15. Sydney - Will Green
Northern Knights, 204cm Ruck
The Swans are believed to be having a good look at Green for this pick, and while it appears somewhat of a surprise it is not much of a stretch. The towering young ruckman could be anything after showing plenty of development this year. His tap-work stands out, but he is also aerobically strong to cover the ground and has good fundamentals with his kicking and marking. Green was a member of the All-Australian team this year, following a big under-18 national championships with Vic Metro.
16. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft – matching St Kilda bid
Calder Cannons, 200cm Forward
If a bid doesn’t come earlier for Croft, don’t be surprised if the Saints place one here. St Kilda is one of a number of clubs who have very much liked what they have seen from the mobile key forward this year, but he will find his way to Whitten Oval after being nominated as a father-son by the Bulldogs. The Calder Cannons graduate – who is the son of former Dogs defender Matthew – finished fourth in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine but sees his marking and ability to create a contest in the air as his biggest strengths.
17. St Kilda - Riley Hardeman
Swan Districts, 185cm Defender
Will the stars align for the West Australian, who grew up as a St Kilda supporter and loved watching Stephen Milne? Hardeman spoke to 16 clubs at the draft combine, where he showed his strong athletic traits – including some real speed which the Saints could use more of. He captained Western Australia at the under-18 national championships, playing primarily off half-back. However, he also looked good through the midfield for Swan Districts in the WAFL Colts at stages this year.
18. Hawthorn - Will McCabe
Central District, 197cm Defender
A key defender from South Australia, there’s no doubt the Crows would love to get their hands on McCabe. However, the Hawks are certain to match a first-round bid on the father-son prospect, whose father Luke is the current football director at Waverley Park. McCabe is exactly what Hawthorn needs, with the club being desperate to bolster its backline. He is athletic, can play a little taller or smaller, is very good one-on-one and can provide some rebound by foot off half-back.
19. Adelaide - Ollie Murphy
Sandringham Dragons, 200cm Defender
The Crows need to address their backline, after losing Tom Doedee through the free agency period and losing Nick Murray to an ACL injury late in the season. They weren’t able to prise Harrison Petty out of Melbourne during the trade period, but look a good chance to grab Murphy here. Playing as a key defender for the first time this year, Murphy showed plenty as he won Vic Metro’s MVP award following a big under-18 national championships campaign. He looks up to St Kilda intercepting king Callum Wilkie.
20. North Melbourne - Lance Collard
Subiaco, 180cm Forward
West Coast had hoped earlier in the year that they would be able to pick up Collard as a Next Generation Academy player outside the top-40 selections. However, there is no way that is happening now. Clubs believe the small forward – who has been described as a Bobby Hill clone – is very likely to be taken in the first 20 picks on draft night given his match-winning abilities and athletic traits. Carlton and Fremantle have also shown interest, but their first picks are likely to fall too late. Adding a livewire small forward is an area the Kangaroos clearly want to address.
21. GWS - Charlie Edwards
Sandringham Dragons, 191cm Midfielder
A late-season bolter, there are suggestions that Edwards could be snapped up even earlier than this. But what looks certain is that he won’t be any later given the interest from a number of clubs in this range, including the Giants. Edwards started the season across half-back for the Sandringham Dragons but moved into the midfield to great effect in the second half of the year. He can drive his legs through traffic, is a penetrating kick and is a great size for a modern-day midfielder.
22. North Melbourne - Archer Reid
Gippsland Power, 203cm Forward
The younger brother of Essendon defender Zach, Reid does his best work at the other end of the ground as a towering key forward who can take a nice mark and also added another string to his bow by going into the ruck later in the year. He’s not the complete package just yet, but the potential upside is sizeable and he fits a need for North Melbourne. The Kangaroos have to provide Nick Larkey with some help in attack. The Callum Coleman-Jones experiment hasn’t worked yet and Charlie Comben has barely been available in his four years at the club due to injury.
23. North Melbourne - Wil Dawson
Gippsland Power, 200cm Defender
When it comes to key defenders, the cupboard is fairly bare at Arden St. The Kangaroos lost Ben McKay to Essendon through free agency, after losing Griffin Logue to a 12-month ACL injury late in the season. It is an area they need to bolster and some clubs believe that Dawson is a first-round smoky for the Kangaroos given they are set to overlook Arie Schoenmaker, while Zane Zakostelsky will be off the board by the time the club’s next pick comes around. Dawson has met with just about every club and attended the national draft combine. He was a once a skinny onballer who turned into a ruckman and key forward before finding his niche down back for Gippsland Power this year.
24. Collingwood - Koltyn Tholstrup
Subiaco, 186cm Forward
Some rate the West Australian as a top 15 to 20 prospect, but there’s a chance he could slide just a touch and find his way to the reigning premiers. Collingwood is believed to have done some recent work on Tholstrup, a dynamic forward who can also pinch-hit in the midfield and have an impact with his agility and running power. The boy from Esperance in regional WA had a strong national championships for his state and played 10 games of senior WAFL football with Subiaco, suggesting that he is very much capable of making the step up to AFL football in the not-too-distant future.
25. Adelaide - Arie Schoenmaker
Tasmania Devils, 194cm Defender
Adding some defensive depth looks key for the Crows in this draft and Schoenmaker is another player the club will need to seriously consider at this pick, even if they do land Murphy with their second selection. Schoenmaker is a versatile prospect from Tasmania and can break the play open was the back-half with his penetrating left-foot kick. He also spent some time in the ruck at the tail end of the Coates Talent League season and hit the scoreboard with some long goals from outside 50.
26. St Kilda - Harry DeMattia
Dandenong Stingrays, 185cm Midfielder
The Saints want to bolster their midfield and while next year looks like being a better draft for that, they could get started early with DeMattia. The former junior cricket star has explosive breakaway speed from the contest – something the Saints are lacking – along with nice agility, clean hands and a good pressure game. Unsurprisingly, DeMattia finished in the top-10 in the 20m sprint at the national draft combine. He is a player with plenty of fans within the first round of the draft.
27. Carlton - Luamon Lual
GWV Rebels, 182cm Defender
The first round of the national draft does not usually stretch this far, but the Blues are likely to find themselves at pick 27 for their first-round selection given the earlier bids. Lual is linked to the Western Bulldogs through the club’s Next Generation Academy, but is little chance to make it past pick 40 for the Bulldogs to be able to match a bid on him. The athletic small defender added some more offensive rebound to his game this year, after primarily playing a lockdown role in his bottom-age season. The Blues will have another selection just a few picks later in the second round, but if they want Lual they might have to take him here given other interest in the 30s.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-phantom-draft-2023-expert-chris-cavanagh-looks-at-how-the-first-round-should-fall/news-story/eb45a8723e3d6c19ad92013c2ddec713
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Word is we're looking to trade up on the night - Collard the primary target. :shh
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Word is we're looking to trade up on the night - Collard the primary target. :shh
We need a few talls not small forwards.
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Word is we're looking to trade up on the night - Collard the primary target. :shh
Please no
Omg
What's the point of having blokes like Clarke, MRJ, Coulthard etc.
Just get a effing key forward.
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Word is we're looking to trade up on the night - Collard the primary target. :shh
Yeah who’s word?
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Q. Does this mean Richmond won’t be taking Charlie Naish this year?
Jon Ralph: Hi Monique. I actually forgot to ask. They will have limited list spots available but not sure about Naish
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https://twitter.com/merrrnique/status/1719112226794312138
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
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Cooper Simpson's highlight reel is FILTHY | 2023 AFL Draft prospect highlights
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mW-mBORCs
He's considered to be a mid-late 2nd rounder and a couple of phantom drafts have him at our pick.
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Cooper Simpson's highlight reel is FILTHY | 2023 AFL Draft prospect highlights
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u6mW-mBORCs/sddefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mW-mBORCs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mW-mBORCs
He's considered to be a mid-late 2nd rounder and a couple of phantom drafts have him at our pick.
Has two feet and some breakaway pace.
Thumping kick.
A few of those ankle breaking moments gave me Dusty feels.
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
So we take a few more 180cm outsiders?
No thanks. But that's generally what the club tends to do.
At least 1 pick or more needs to be used on a KPF. Lots of talent slips through every year. Look at Larkey and Lewis. Taken with picks that won't even get used this year.
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
So we take a few more 180cm outsiders?
No thanks. But that's generally what the club tends to do.
At least 1 pick or more needs to be used on a KPF. Lots of talent slips through every year. Look at Larkey and Lewis. Taken with picks that won't even get used this year.
We should be taking players that have the best chance of making it at AFL level.
You go through every draft and for every Larkey or Lewis they’re eight speculative picks that don’t make it.
Take the player who has a chance of making it at AFL level regardless of position than a player that is unlikely to make it but gets selected purely because they play a KPF. To not do so is a waste of a pick, of time in development and money.
It’s like picking Liam McBean or Dean Putts over Lachie Neale.
Despite fairy tale stories, the draft is still all about statistical likelihood.
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
Agree. I dont want to take KPPs just for the sake of it.
They should at least be rated at close to our pick in terms of talent/merit.
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
Agree. I dont want to take KPPs just for the sake of it.
They should at least be rated at close to our pick in terms of talent/merit.
I understand you don't want to hedge a bet on a dud but I'm suggesting we adjust our level of accepted risk to draft for needs.
If there's a HBF at 180cm with a 60% chance of making it and a 195cm KPF with a 40-50% chance of making it I'm saying go the KPF and forget the 'safe bet' of more skinny outside kids.
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Rebel with a cause: Powerful mid makes most of ACL heartbreak
George Stevens had a stellar finish to his underage career after suffering a devastating knee injury last year.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059589/rebel-with-a-cause-powerful-midfielder-george-stevens-makes-most-of-acl-heartbreak
He'll most likely be gone well before our first pick unless we trade up on draft night, but apparently Stevens is one we're keen on.
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Every AFL club’s clear list chasm — and the perfect draft targets who could fill them
Ben Waterworth with David Zita
Fox Sports
November 1st, 2023
RICHMOND
Draft picks: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
List chasm:
The Tigers need some more forward support for Tom Lynch when he returns from injury, with that need only increased by the retirement of Jack Riewoldt. They’ve already addressed that somewhat in trading in Jacob Koschitzke. They’ve also got Dustin Martin and Shai Bolton as mid-forwards who can hit the scoreboard. We haven’t seen much of Josh Gibcus due to injury and some key defensive depth may be needed if he doesn’t come on as hoped. They’re ranked 15th for forward 50 groundball differential and 16th for forward half pressure.
Ideal draft prospects:
They’ll have to get creative given their first pick will come in the second round. Logan Morris can play at both ends, as shown in his stint with Vic Metro, and booted 31 goals from 14 games as a bottom-ager for the Jets. Archer Reid looks to be a key position prospect for the future but is still growing into his big frame. WA prospects Koen Sanchez and Koltyn Tholstrup — if the latter slides that far — would also be in the mix. The Tigers haven’t been afraid to draft talent from Western Australia in recent years. The wildcard could be Glenelg forward Ashton Moir, who’s immensely talented but looming as one of this year’s big sliders. This time last year, Moir was being talked about as a top-five prospect, but it hasn’t clicked for the exciting and prodigiously talented forward at any level this year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2023-every-clubs-list-chasm-and-prospect-to-fill-it-top-draft-targets-for-each-team-best-players-available-analysis-news/news-story/58f24374fdcee68253e6982de5b67f0a
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Why not just grab 2 key forwards and Naish with a late pick?
Or 1 key forward, maybe a slider like Moir if he slides and Naish with the dud pick?
The key forwards in or around or first pick are very slim. There’s either Archer Reid who is a few seasons away and very inconsistent (and I suspect the lack of KPFs see him taken earlier than our pick), Logan Morris (more of a third tall height without the athleticism. Big and strong but not sure that’s the profile of a KPF that you draft) or possibly Calshear Dear who is linked to Hawthorn via Father/son (we had been linked early too, and I wonder if that was a wink-wink aspect of the Koschitski trade).
There will be more talented players around our first pick, so would rather we take someone who is more likely to make it at AFL level than a KPF player for the sake of a KPF player.
Though I do like Moir.
Agree. I dont want to take KPPs just for the sake of it.
They should at least be rated at close to our pick in terms of talent/merit.
I understand you don't want to hedge a bet on a dud but I'm suggesting we adjust our level of accepted risk to draft for needs.
If there's a HBF at 180cm with a 60% chance of making it and a 195cm KPF with a 40-50% chance of making it I'm saying go the KPF and forget the 'safe bet' of more skinny outside kids.
Fair enough. Makes sense.
It might be that the next best KPP is too far off though and if that's the case then im ok with them taking a small.
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Cooper Simpson's highlight reel is FILTHY | 2023 AFL Draft prospect highlights
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mW-mBORCs
He's considered to be a mid-late 2nd rounder and a couple of phantom drafts have him at our pick.
Has two feet and some breakaway pace.
Thumping kick.
A few of those ankle breaking moments gave me Dusty feels.
Looks ready to go and has good size/weight ratio
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Thoughts on Luke Lloyd?
Expected to go around 30-50 in the draft. So, he'll be available around our first two picks.
How 19-goal game helped rocket forward Luke Lloyd into draft calculations
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059361/how-19-goal-game-helped-rocket-forward-luke-lloyd-into-draft-calculations
Highlights: https://www.afl.com.au/video/1059348/draft-watch-luke-lloyd
Luke Lloyd
Height: 193cm
Weight: 84kg
D.O.B: 08-08-2005
Leagues: Coates Talent League Boys
SNAPSHOT: “Very much a link up centre half-forward, Luke Lloyd consistently works up the ground to act as a release option for his teammates, but is just as damaging when playing closer to goal.”
After a delayed start to the season due to injury, Luke Lloyd was quick to make up for lost time when he finally made it into the Sandringham Dragons side in Round 7. He started out with a bang, booting three goals and clunking five marks in a loss to Murray Bushrangers.
That form carried on to the end of the season, as Lloyd registered multiple scoring shots in all 11 of his Coates Talent League appearances. In the end, he would also be part of the Dragons’ premiership team and earned a National Draft Combine invite despite missing out on Vic Metro honours.
Lloyd was still given an opportunity to show his wares at a higher level, turning out for Frankston in the VFL in Rounds 18 and 19, taking eight marks across two games as a tall forward. Though, arguably the forward’s most fabled feat this year was his 19-goal game for school side De La Salle.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/luke-lloyd-2/
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We would be mad not to take a key forward put it that way.
JVR put on about 8kg in his first two years so why not this bloke.
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"I believe he was the most naturally talented footballer on the Dragons' list this year, which turned out to be a list that won a premiership," Sandringham coach Rob Harding told AFL.com.au.
"His footy IQ is exceptionally high, he understands spacing and positioning, he's got good leading patterns, his hands are fantastic, he's a very strong mark on the lead or in contested situations, and he's a beautiful kick.
"Anyone who has kicked 19 goals in a game, you've got to be a pretty nice kick. But he's a good field kick and he's a reliable set-shot at goal. He has a number of attributes that I think are going to stand up really well at the next level."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059361/how-19-goal-game-helped-rocket-forward-luke-lloyd-into-draft-calculations
Sounds like traits similar to a Jack Riewoldt.
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Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Small and medium forwards
NATIONAL COMBINE
Jack Callinan
State: Tasmania
State League Club: Tasmania Devils
Community Club: Clarence
Date of Birth: 07/10/05
Height: 179 cm
A clever small forward who is quick, agile and has innate goal sense. Turns his opponents inside out with his change of direction and evasiveness to create scoring opportunities. Kicked 30 majors across 17 games this season with the Tasmania Devils, Allies and Australia Under 18 team as well as averaging 17.5 disposals in 11 matches for the Devils in the Coates Talent League. Is the son of former Adelaide Crows forward Ian Callinan and looks to have inherited his father’s ball-winning ability and smarts around goal.
Lance Collard
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Subiaco
Community Club: North Beach
Date of Birth: 26/03/05
Height: 180cm
Small forward who is extremely dangerous around goals. Booted 39 goals in 16 matches in Western Australia’s pathway this year where he played predominantly at Colts level. Also represented his state in three games at the National Championships which gave him a taste of playing against the nation’s best. He then highlighted his potential by kicking bags of five goals in three of the final five games of the WAFL Colts season. Showcased his athletic prowess at the national Draft Combine where he produced the quickest time on the agility test (8.16 seconds) and a top ten finish on the 20m sprint (2.92 seconds). Is a member of the West Coast Eagles’ Next Generation Academy program meaning they can match any bid after selection 40 in this year’s Draft.
Jack Delean
State: South Australia
State League Club: South Adelaide
Community Club: Reynella
Date of Birth: 15/04/05
Height: 181cm
A forward who is quick on the lead and possesses an exciting leap and strong hands. All these attributes make him a dangerous target in the forward half. Booted 55 goals in 23 matches at all levels this season. Featured in the AFL Academy and showed his creativity to be one of Australia’s best players in the win over Carlton’s VFL team at Marvel Stadium before capping off his season by featuring in South Adelaide’s under 18 premiership team. His standing vertical jump of 74cm at the national Draft Combine was ranked in the top 10 and highlighted his spring.
Harry DeMattia
Pronunciation: De-matt-e-ya
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Community Club: Edithvale-Aspendale
Date of Birth: 11/09/05
Height: 185cm
A midfielder/forward with both speed and endurance which enables him to cover the ground and compete in the air and at ground level often in a high half forward role. A left footer, he brings real pressure with his ability to lay run down tackles against the flow of play. Shared the role of Victoria Country co-captain with Harley Reid and performed consistently. Had an exciting year with the Dandenong Stingrays averaging 19 disposals and 4.8 tackles to earn selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. Recorded a top 10 finish in the 20m sprint at the national Draft Combine with a slick 2.99 seconds. A dual sports athlete who has a member of Australia’s under 19 cricket program.
Zane Duursma
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Foster
Date of Birth: 28/08/05
Height: 189cm
A mercurial forward or midfielder who reads the play exceptionally well, is strong overhead and deadly accurate around the goals. Was an outstanding player for Victoria Country at the National Championships to earn All Australian honours, which included a match-winning performance against Victoria Metro in the final game he amassed 22 disposals, 10 marks and four goals. Was also dominant for the Gippsland Power to win their best and fairest and selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. Finished the year with 42 goals across 20 matches. His natural leap was highlighted at the national Draft Combine with his running vertical jump of 97cm ranked second overall. Hails from a talented football family, with his brother Xavier now at Essendon and sister Yasmine playing for Port Adelaide.
Phoenix Gothard
State: NSW/ACT
State League Club: Murray Bushrangers
Community Club: Albury
Date of Birth 07/09/05
Height: 178cm
A small forward who came to prominence with his creative forward play for the Allies in their unbeaten National Championship-winning run, where he was a livewire at ground level and averaged 10.3 disposals, three tackles and a goal a game. Was also impressive for the Murray Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League, averaging 16 disposals and 3.7 tackles across 10 matches and booted nine goals. His high natural leap and pace where both prominent at the national Draft Combine with his standing vertical leap of 78cm ranked second overall and hist time of 2.96 seconds on the 20m sprint ranked in the top ten.
Harvey Johnston
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: Parkdale Vultures
Date of Birth: 18/08/05
Height: 183cm
A medium forward/midfielder who is a real pro in the way he goes about it. A neat user by hand and foot who is very creative with his ball use. Was a consistent ball winner for Victoria Metro at the National Championships, which included an outstanding performance against Western Australia with 29 disposals to be one of his side’s best. Was also an influential player for the Sandringham Dragons during their Coates Talent League premiership success, averaging 17.5 disposals and 3.5 tackles a game, and had a taste at VFL level in two matches for Sandringham. Showed all-round athleticism at the national Draft Combine producing excellent results in the 2km time trial (6:17) and agility test (8.39).
Ashton Moir
Pronunciation: Moy-ya
State: South Australia
State League Club: Glenelg
Community Club: Plympton
Date of Birth: 15/04/05
Height: 187cm
A medium forward who really caught the eye last year with his goal kicking and marking ability, which included a haul of four majors against Western Australia at the National Championships. Was slightly hampered by a hip injury at various parts of the 2023 season but still managed to kick 23 goals in 17 matches in the talent pathway and showed glimpses of his elite potential. Was fully fit at season’s end and excelled at the national Draft Combine with his time of 8.24 seconds on the agility test in the top bracket.
Odhran Murdock
Pronunciation: Oh-ran
Country: Ireland
County: County Down
GAA Club: Burren
Date of Birth: 24/04/03
Height: 189cm
Medium forward/midfielder already regarded as the best player in County Down using his power and contested ball winning ability to influence the play. A very composed and no-nonsense player who is also very creative with his hands. Quickly adapted to the oval ball in his tryouts in Australia and kicks the ball equally well on both feet. Showed a real competitive streak in the 2km time trial at the national Draft Combine, powering home to win his heat in an impressive 6:35 seconds despite have no experience in running over that distance.
Will Rowlands
State: Northern Territory
State League Club: Northern Territory Thunder/Norwood
Community Club: Southern Districts
Date of Birth: 19/06/05
Height: 179cm
A small midfielder or forward who has pace to burn and is prepared to take the game on with his dash and dare. He excels at stoppages and is a very dangerous player around the goals. Has played with Norwood’s under 18 team and the Northern Territory Thunder in the Coates Talent League throughout the 2023 season and also played two games with the Allies during the National Championships. His form with the Thunder was impressive, averaging 21.5 disposals and 5.5 clearances, as it was with Norwood where he averaged 19.4 disposals in 10 matches before a shoulder operation curtailed his season.
Koen Sanchez
State: Western Australia
State League Club: East Fremantle
Community Club: Applecross Mt Pleasant
Date of Birth 19/01/05
Height: 177cm
A small forward or wingman with lightning-quick movement and reflexes which makes him a difficult match up for opposition sides. Was at his best for Western Australia at the National Championships with his ability to read the game to find space and his prodigious kick making him dangerous around the goals. Averaged 17.8 disposals (9.2 contested) and 1.5 goals per match at the Championships to earn All Australian honours. Was also dominant in six club matches at under 18s level for East Fremantle averaging 26.5 disposals before playing a couple of reserve grade games to further his progression. Injured and unable to test at National Combine.
Koltyn Tholstrup
Pronunciation: Foal-strup
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Subiaco
Community Club: Newtown Condingup
Date of Birth: 28/06/05
Height: 186cm
A talented player with an elite work rate who often plays as a high half forward and sometimes goes through the midfield. He is a fearless competitor with excellent game sense and a penetrating kick. He played the final three games for Western Australia at the National Championships after missing the first with injury but didn’t miss a beat to average 18.7 disposals. Has a sharp competitive edge which has seen him already play 10 senior matches for Subiaco in the WAFL. Tested impressively at the national Draft Combine to record the second quickest time on the agility test (8.19) and a top ten finish in the 2km time trial (6:17).
Nick Watson
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: Montrose
Date of Birth: 24/02/05
Height: 170cm
A small forward who is quick, agile and crafty and has a real appetite for the contest. Gave a glimpse of his potential last year when he booted 23 goals in 10 matches in the talent pathway. Was impossible to contain in the National Championships this year, booting 14 goals in four matches for Victoria Metro to top the goal kicking. He also averaged 12.2 disposals and was rewarded with All Australian selection. He further expanded his game by spending more in the midfield and across half back for the Eastern Ranges and averaged 20 disposals while kicking 11 goals in nine matches in the Coates Talent League. Was in a moon boot with a minor foot injury at the national Draft Combine and was unable to test.
Darcy Wilson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Murray Bushrangers
Community Club: Wangaratta Rovers
Date of Birth: 18/08/05
Height: 186cm
An elusive and creative forward or wingman who covers the ground exceptionally well and has innate ability around goals. He is still developing physically but had an outstanding year. Averaged 25.4 disposals and kicked 16 goals for the Murray Bushrangers to win the team’s best and fairest and earn selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. Also featured among Victoria Country’s best at the National Championships and produced a strong performance when representing Australia as part of the AFL Academy in the clash against Port Adelaide’s SANFL team, racking up 19 disposals and taking five marks. His running capacity was confirmed when he finished second in the 2km time trial at the national Draft Combine with a time of 5:52. He also demonstrated his power by producing the best running vertical jump with his 98cm effort.
STATE COMBINE
Tom Anastasopoulos
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Geelong Falcons
Community Club: Newtown & Chilwell
Date of Birth: 31/05/05
Height: 176cm
Small forward who brings real intensity and tackling pressure as well as speed with his work inside 50. Came to notice early in the Coates Talent League season with a five-goal haul against the Oakleigh Chargers in Round 2 and earned a place in Victoria Country’s squad for the National Championships where he played three matches. Was extremely accurate kicking at goal and finished with 21.2 across 11 games for the Falcons. His time of 6:11 on the 2km time trial was ranked second among state Draft Combine participants.
Max Beattie
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Woodville-West Torrens
Community Club: Wodonga
Date of Birth: 18/11/03
Height: 173cm
Small forward who made a real impact in his first year with Woodville-West Torrens in the SANFL, kicking 19 goals and averaging 14.3 disposals and 3.3 tackles across 18 matches. Joined the Eagles from the Wodonga Raiders after also playing a couple of games with the Murray Bushrangers as a 19-year-old last year. Received news of his invite to the Draft Combine while on holidays in Europe but will be back in early November to complete testing.
Ry Cantwell
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: North Ringwood
Date of Birth: 16/08/05
Height: 187cm
Medium forward who is super athletic and a neat set shot for goal. Showed a touch of class for the Eastern Ranges during the Coates Talent League season, kicking 18 goals in 12 matches and averaging 11.9 disposals and 3.3 marks. His elite combination of speed (2.95 seconds in the 20m sprint) and agility (8.23 seconds in the agility test) was on display at the state Draft Combine in Melbourne, while his standing vertical jump of 72cm which was ranked fourth across all state Combine participants.
Lachlan Charleson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: GWV Rebels
Community Club: East Point
Date of Birth: 29/01/05
Height: 177cm
Small forward who really caught the eye with an eight-goal performance for the GWV Rebels against the Bendigo Pioneers late in the year, before following it up with a four-goal showing a fortnight later against the Murray Bushrangers. Those efforts topped off an impressive year in the Coates Talent League where he booted 24 goals and averaged 18.5 disposals and three tackles across 13 matches. Also represented Victoria Country at the National Championships and produced a sharp 2.99 seconds for the 20m sprint during Combine testing.
Jack Cocking
State: Western Australia
State League Club: East Fremantle
Community Club: Railway
Date of Birth: 27/01/05
Height: 189cm
Medium forward who had an outstanding year at Colts level kicking 49 goals for East Fremantle as well as setting up scoring opportunities for his teammates. Agile and possessing an impressive natural leap, he proved a difficult match up using his footy IQ and innate goal sense. Booted six goals on two occasions and multiple goals 13 times for the Sharks. His elite leap and agility were shown at the state Draft Combine in Perth with his running vertical jump of 94cm ranked third among all state participants, while his time of 7.99 seconds in the agility test ranked fourth.
Jed Dignan
State: South Australia
State League Club: North Adelaide
Community Club: Orroroo
Date of Birth: 03/02/05
Height: 188cm
Medium forward who can also play in the midfield. Has very good aerial ability, can win the contested ball and has high footy IQ. Played for South Australia in all four matches at the National Championships either side of a strong season at club level where he averaged 23.4 disposals (10 contested) and four clearances across 14 matches at under 18s level for North Adelaide. His time of 8.26 seconds on the agility test was the best of any player who tested at the state Draft Combine event in Adelaide while his 6:31 for the 2km time trial was a strong performance.
Charlton Harrop
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: Beaumaris
Date of Birth: 13/07/05
Height: 186cm
Medium forward who is strong overhead, clean below the knees and can regularly hit the scoreboard. Noted for his leadership and its impact on his team’s performance. He was captain of Haileybury’s APS title-winning team and an influential member of the Sandringham Dragons premiership team in the Coates Talent League. Kicked 15 goals for Victoria Metro and the Dragons across nine matches with a finger injury limiting his games played at that level.
Brayden Laplanche
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: Rowville Hawks
Date of Birth: 30/11/05
Height: 190cm
Played as a forward in the first half of the year before successfully moving to defence in the latter part of the season to add another string to his bow. A good one-on-one player with a sharp burst of speed, he averaged 12 disposals and kicked 13 goals in the Coates Talent League and helped steer the Eastern Ranges to a grand final appearance as co-captain. His 3.02 for the 20m sprint gave a glimpse of his acceleration for a player of his size.
Heath Ollington
State: Tasmania
State League Club: Tasmania Devils
Community Club: North Launceston
Date of Birth: 10/12/04
Height: 190cm
Medium forward who presents particularly well as a marking target with his mobility, strong hands and courage. Was outstanding when given an opportunity to represent the Allies, seizing the moment with 21 disposals, seven marks and a goal to be one of his team’s best against Victoria Metro. Had a very consistent year with the Tasmania Devils in the Coates Talent League where he averaged 15.6 disposals and 5.4 marks as well as kicking 23 goals for the team which finished in first place on the ladder.
Loch Rawlinson
State: South Australia
State League Club: Sturt
Community Club: Mitcham
Date of Birth: 01/06/05
Height: 178cm
Small forward capable of lighting up a game with his dazzling pace and precise kicking. Represented South Australia in all four National Championships matches and was among their best with his two goals and 11 disposals against Victoria Metro. Booted 20 majors across the 19 matches in the talent pathway for his club and state, as well as averaging 18.7 disposals for Sturt at under 18s level. Showcased his elite speed with a time of 2.89 seconds for the 20m sprint which ranked second among all state Draft Combine participants.
Orlando Turner
State: Northern Territory
State League Club: Northern Territory Academy/Norwood
Community Club: South Alice Springs
Date of Birth: 15/05/05
Height: 177cm
Small forward from Central Australia who attends school in Adelaide playing for Rostrevor College. Has also represented the Northern Territory Thunder in the Coates Talent League and Norwood in the SANFL under 18s. Was a member of the AFL Academy where he twice represented Australia and also played two games for the Allies. A highlight of his year would have been kicking two goals, including the sealer, in the Allies win over Victoria Country which secured their first National Championships title. His speed and goal sense are both assets along with his preparedness to take on the opposition with his run and carry.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059815/kevin-sheehans-2023-afl-draft-top-prospects-small-and-medium-forwards
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https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2023/11/01/download-the-2023-afl-draft-guide/
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/1057399/how-tasmania-devils-superboot-arie-schoenmaker-turned-10-week-ban-into-a-blessing-in-disguise
Likely to go before our pick, but in the past, we've shown interest in kids coached by ex-Tiger Jeromey Webberley.
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With bids for Academy players and father-sons adding to the already 22 selections in the first round of the draft due to compensation picks, the first round of the draft could stretch to around 27 selections on the opening night.
It has seen the League invite around 15 players to attend proceedings in Melbourne, with the likes of Harley Reid, Colby McKercher, Zane Duursma, Jed Walter, Ryley Sanders, Nate Caddy, Nick Watson, Daniel Curtin and Jake Rogers all heading to the event.
Late riser Caleb Windsor, Tasmanian talent James Leake and Murray prospect Darcy Wilson have also all been invited, with West Australian Koltyn Tholstrup also on the invite list.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059912/draft-party-prospects-set-to-bring-big-groups-to-boost-atmosphere
This would mean our first pick on the second night will be in the mid-30s :-\.
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ASSESSING THE 2023 DRAFT NEEDS FOR ALL CLUBS
Andrew Slevison
SEN
3 November 2023
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2023 draft hand: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
The Tigers need a key forward for the future.
Jack Riewoldt is gone and beyond Tom Lynch, who has had his fair share of injury troubles, it’s slim pickings.
The club recruited Jacob Koschitzke from Hawthorn in the trade period but he didn’t do much to really get excited about.
With Pick 29, the Tigers could do worse than go after a forward like Logan Morris who has a knack for kicking goals. The hard-working 191cm forward is relatively undersized for a key forward, but has delivered 30 or more goals in each of the last two Coates Talent League seasons with the Western Jets.
Gippsland Power and Vic Country key forward Archer Reid, the younger brother of Essendon’s Zach, could also be an option in the late 20s.
The Tigers do not have a strong hand in 2023, having spent some draft capital to get Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper last year, so picking up exactly what they need with their few selections could be a challenge.
Verdict: A key forward for the future.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/03/assessing-the-2023-draft-needs-for-all-18-afl-clubs/
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https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2023/11/01/download-the-2023-afl-draft-guide/
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IS THIS YEAR ACTUALLY A SHALLOW DRAFT?
Part of club strategy is understanding the depth of talent – both in the upcoming draft and beyond.
For example, this draft is considered to be a shallow pool that falls away after a clear top 12 (depending on you speak to) ahead of the rest of the pack.
But Ablett dismissed such talk as being “incredibly disrespectful”, going so far to declare this year’s pool is as good as he’s ever seen.
The draft guru said the key trial facing all 18 clubs is finding the diamonds in the rough with their later picks.
“I think this group is as good as any that has come through a draft in my time in football … I’m not being facetious. But when we sit back in another eight months time and see what’s starting to come to fruition and these young men having an impact on the AFL stage, all of a sudden we look back pretty fondly on the draft.
“I mean this from the bottom of my heart – I think this draft is as good as any I’ve seen come before it. The real challenge for AFL clubs now is to dig a little bit deeper and to find these players. History suggests there are always players in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s that have gone on to play on in AFL premierships.”
SO WHO ARE THE HIDDEN GEMS TO WATCH FOR?
So who are this year’s big sleepers? Ablett nominated Kade De La Rue and Harvey Johnstone as two potential bargain pickup.
“I really like Kade De La Rue – a medium forward out of the Dandenong Stingrays – 183cm and 79kg. He’s still a very young 18-year old. He averaged 15 disposals, but it’s his efficiency art 79 per cent that really impressed me at the U18 Championships,” he said.
“He doesn’t have huge amounts of leg speed, but he just does not fumble, he’s outstanding overhead for his size and his ability to use the ball to weight his kicks on both sides of the body. It’s literally poetry in motion watching him play and I’ve got a lot of time for him
“He’s a player you want kicking the ball. Kade Del La Rue is certainly one I’d be keeping an eye on and will pop up at some stage in the draft.”
Ablett said the way Johnstone moves is resemblant of Luke Davies-Uniacke in what could be a late steal.
“The other one is Harvey Johnstone, who’s a 183cm midfielder out of the Sandringham Dragons. I just think this kid has flown under the radar a little bit and he has a lot to offer an AFL club,” he said.
“His movement reminds of a Luke Davies-Uniacke, he’s very instinctive by hand and just his movement around the stoppage is what really impressed me.
“He had an opportunity at VFL level where he played a couple of game for the ‘Sandy’ Zebras late in the year. He’s one that has probably flown under the radar but deserves an opportunity.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-burning-questions-pick-1-trade-west-coast-eagles-north-melbourne-kangaroos-melbourne-demons-harley-reid-tasmania-players-sleepers-is-it-shallow-latest-news/news-story/8972de27ada0d50cc2477d2ea656fad9
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AFL draft top 30: Ranking the best prospects
By Dean Bilton
ABC sport
6 November 2023
The 2023 AFL draft is just around the corner, and a much debated crop of young footballers are set to learn their fates.
The consensus among draft watchers has been a clear group of around a dozen prospects have elevated themselves, but beyond that opinions have been mixed, setting up an unpredictable draft with surprises likely.
Here is our ranking of the best 30 players in this year's draft.
1. Harley Reid
2. Jed Walter - GC Academy
3. Colby McKercher
4. Ethan Read - GC Academy
5. Zane Duursma
6. Ryley Sanders
7. Daniel Curtin
8. Connor O'Sullivan
9. Nick Watson
10. James Leake
11. Nate Caddy
12. Jake Rogers - GC Academy
13. Caleb Windsor
14. Ollie Murphy
15. Darcy Wilson
16. Jordan Croft - WB F/S
17. Will McCabe - Haw F/S
18. Charlie Edwards
19. Caiden Cleary - Swans Academy
20. Koltyn Tholstrup
21. Angus Hastie
22. Phoenix Gothard
23. Lance Collard
24. Taylor Goad
25. Riley Hardeman
26. Will Green
27. Archie Roberts
28. Logan Morris
29. Harry DeMattia
30. Zane Zakostelsky
Full write-ups here: https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/afl-draft-top-30-ranking-the-best-prospects-from-harley-reid-and-zane-duursma-to-ryley-sanders-and-nate-caddy/ar-AA1jqu4o
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Some forums & media claim we have interest in Taylor Goad.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059916/hes-a-ripper-the-unique-206cm-ruck-prospect-taylor-goad-dazzling-recruiters
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Gold Coast are hoping to trade picks 24 and 26.
West Coast (picks 1, 23) is interested in securing a third pick within 25, while Fremantle is also keen to get up from its initial pick (34)
@RalphyHeraldSun via @heraldsunsport
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1721282500910309529
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Richmond are coming to terms with their first pick in the draft a midfielder should be selected.
Charlie Edwards, George Stevens, Cooper Simpson, Joel Freijah are all names currently known to me that Richmond are interested in.
unfortunately we are out of the range of any good key forward prospects.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1721459535934849514
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There are always diamonds in the rough.
Need to lower the risk threshold and take a key forward. Develop them and give them a go.
Most 1st round key forwards are a bust anyway IMO. Especially the pick #1
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Richmond
Picks: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
Richmond will be dealing in the latter stages of the draft, having given up their first-round pick in last year's Jacob Hopper deal.
The Tiger could look at ambidextrous forward Ashton Moir with its first selection, but may also opt to boost its defence with the likes of Tew Jiath.
Should the Tigers target a tall forward for the future, marking forward Logan Morris looks like a strong option. The Western Jets spearhead kicked 29 goals in the Talent League this season.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/afl-draft-2023-club-by-club-prospects-draft-order-likely-selections/ar-AA1iJx6P
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From BF:
Some KPF to keep an eye on late in the draft if we go midfielder/flanker/ruck early on.
Riley Weatherill - 197cm 93kg KPF from Eastern Ranges kicked 37 goals in 15 games at Coates Talent League games
Patrick Weckert - 191cm 93kg KPF from Woodville-West Torrens, kicked 10 goals in 3 SANFL U18s games, 16 goals in 8 SANFL Reserves games
Xavier Walsh - 195cm 91kg KPF from East Perth. Kicked 13 goals from 8 games at WAFL Colts level.
Hugh Byrne - 194cm 89kg KPF from Bendigo Pioneers, kicked 18 goals from 14 Coates Talent League games
Liam Fawcett - 197cm 89kg KPF from Central Districts, kicked 32 goals from 16 SANFL U18s games
Harry Francis - 195cm 80kg KPF/ruck from Glenelg, kicked 12 goals from 10 SANFL U18s games. (Note spent more time as a ruck than forward)
Jacob Grant - 193cm 85kg KPF from Dandenong, kicked 12 goals from 13 Coates Talent League games
Luker Kentfield - 194cm 93kg KPF from Subiaco, kicked 29 goals from 20 WAFL Colts games & 8 goals from 10 WAFL League games
Coen Livingstone - 200cm 96kg KPF/Ruck from Perth, kicked 25 goals from 19 WAFL Colts games
Michael Rudd - 193cm 91kg KPF from Geelong Falcons kicked 16 goals from 13 Coates Talent League games & 7 goals from 3 NAB Championships games
Sam Van Rooyen - 193cm 85kg KPF from Claremont, brother of Jacob, kicked 26 goals from 22 WAFL Colts games.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81713457
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Plenty of options.
We'd be mad not to take a chance on one of them.
Moir looks very interesting as a potential medium forward so I'd be fine with that if we use 41 on a KPF.
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Projected 15th overall pick [@CalTwomey] Darcy Wilson says that he has been interviewed by every AFL side ahead of the upcoming draft except Collingwood.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1722077463935857143
No chance unless we somehow trade up the draft order on the night.
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Another BF draft watcher's updated phantom draft:
Pick 31, Richmond - Phoenix Gothard
Small Forward 178cm/72kg
Age: 18 (September 7, 2005)
Allies | Murray Bushrangers
Plays like: Lincoln McCarthy
Profile: Crafty and creative little forward whose speed forward of centre is a force
Rationale: With no first round selection, the Tigers need to make the most of their selections and take the best available. At this stage it’s Gothard who projects to be better than any small forward currently getting games at Tiger land. His skill and pressure will be loved at Punt Road, and he is a reliable goal kicker too.
Pick 41, Richmond - Cooper Simpson
Inside Midfielder/General Forward 181cm/79kg
Age: 18 (February 13, 2005)
VIC Country | Dandenong Stingrays
Plays like: Jade Gresham
Profile: Speedy goal kicking midfielder
Rationale: An underrated midfield prospect in this draft, Simpson’s numbers have been consistently impressive so much so I expect him to be taken. The Tigers need additional midfield depth in my opinion and Simpson is one who can be developed into a good player.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adzys-2023-phantom-two-rounds-so-far-updated-06-11-23.1374040/
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The BF draft board's actual phantom draft gave us Archer Reid and Koen Sanchez.
Round 1
Pick 1 - West Coast Eagles - Harley Reid
Pick 2 - Gold Coast Suns - Jed Walter (Matched bid) [Picks 24, 26 and 27 used to match, 203 points in the bank for next match]
Pick 3 - North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
Pick 4 - North Melbourne - Daniel Curtin
Pick 5 - Hawthorn - Zane Duursma
Pick 6 - Western Bulldogs - Nick Watson
Pick 7 - Gold Coast Suns - Ethan Read (Matched Bid) [Picks 30 and 34 used, 58 points for next match]
Pick 8 - Melbourne - Nate Caddy
Pick 9 - GWS - Ryley Sanders
Pick 10 - Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
Pick 11 - Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (Matched Bid) [Picks 46, 48, 50 and 51 used, 101 points for next match]
Pick 12 - Essendon - Caleb Windsor
Pick 13 - Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
Pick 14 - Melbourne - James Leake
Pick 15 - Sydney - Zane Zakostelsky
Pick 16 - St Kilda - Ollie Murphy
Pick 17 - Adelaide - Harry Demattia
Pick 18 - North Melbourne - Mitch Edwards
Pick 19 - Gold Coast Suns - Jake Rogers (Matched Bid) [Picks 36, 60 and 65 used, 45 points for next match]
Pick 20 - GWS - Luamon Lual
Pick 21 - North Melbourne - Arie Schoenmaker
Pick 22 - North Melbourne - Riley Hardeman
Pick 23 - Hawthorn - Will McCabe (Matched bid) [Picks 42 and 45 used, 124 points for next match]
Pick 24 - Collingwood - Archie Roberts
Pick 25 - Adelaide - Taylor Goad
Pick 26 - St Kilda - Lance Collard
Pick 27 - Carlton - Koltyn Tholstrup
Round 2
Pick 28 - West Coast Eagles - Charlie Edwards
Pick 29 - Geelong - Joel Freijah
Pick 30 - Carlton - Ashton Moir
Pick 31 - Richmond - Archer Reid
Pick 32 - Brisbane - Angus Hastie
Pick 33 - Essendon - George Stevens
Pick 34 - Collingwood - Will Green
Pick 35 - Gold Coast Suns - Will Graham (Matched bid) [Pick 65 gobbled up. Deficit of 190 points applied to Gold Coasts 2023 2nd round pick]
Pick 36 - Fremantle - Luke Lloyd
Pick 37 - Hawthorn - Calsher Dear (Matched Bid) [Pick 46 used]
Pick 38 - Essendon - Tew Jiath
Pick 39 - West Coast - Wil Dawson
Pick 40 - Brisbane - Phoenix Gothard
Pick 41 - St Kilda - Harvey Johnston
Pick 42 - Richmond - Koen Sanchez
Pick 43 - Melbourne - Clay Hall
Pick 44 - GWS - Lachie Charleson
Round 3
Pick 45 - Sydney - Caiden Cleary
Pick 46 - Fremantle - Shaun Mannagh
Pick 47 - Brisbane - Cooper Simpson
Pick 48 - Brisbane - Joe Fonti
Pick 49 - Sydney - Jack Delean
Pick 50 - Western Bulldogs - Kane McAuliffe
Pick 51 - North Melbourne - Logan Morris
Pick 52 - West Coast - Will Patton
Pick 53 - GWS - Vigo Visentini
Pick 54 - Fremantle - Sam Clohesy
Pick 55 - Essendon - Michael Rudd
Pick 56 - Hawthorn - Nathan Philactides
Round 4
Pick 57 - Hawthorn - PASS
Pick 58 - Fremantle - Thomas Anastasopoulos
Pick 59 - Richmond - PASS
Pick 60 - Brisbane -PASS
Pick 61 - Richmond - PASS
Pick 62 - Western Bulldogs - Kade De La Rue
Pick 63 - Carlton - Aiden O'Driscoll
Pick 64 - Western Bulldogs - PASS
Pick 65 - Port Adelaide - Jack Callinan
Pick 66 - Western Bulldogs - PASS
Pick 67 - Geelong - Billy Wilson
Pick 68 - GWS - PASS
Pick 69 - Carlton - Sam Van Rooyen
Pick 70 - GWS - PASS
Pick 71 - Collingwood - Will Lorenz
Round 5
Pick 72 - Port Adelaide - Tarkyn O'Leary
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2023-bigfooty-phantom-draft.1374171/page-5
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Cal Twomey said Richmond's chief recruiter Matt Clarke will be on their Gettable show next week.
Twomey - Richmond will use two picks. Likely to go tall with one of their picks. Will Archer Reid be available?
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1062185/gettable-see-our-mock-draft-plus-latest-whispers-hawks-big-call-who-slips
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Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Midfielders
afl.com.au
8 November 2023
NATIONAL COMBINE
Kade De La Rue
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Community Club: Beaconsfield
Date of Birth: 19/11/05
Height: 183cm
A medium midfielder/forward whose strength is accumulating the ball and then making good decisions with his neat disposal. Had an excellent season with the Dandenong Stingrays in the Coates Talent League where he averaged 20.5 disposals, 4.4 tackles and 2.8 clearances across 11 matches. Represented Victoria Country in all four of its matches at the National Championships including being among his team’s best with 22 disposals and five marks in the victory against Western Australia. Was unable to test at the Draft Combine due to injury.
Joel Freijah
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: GWV Rebels
Community Club: Horsham Saints
Date of Birth: 14/11/05
Height: 190cm
A wingman who has real composure, is clean below his knees and distributes the ball very well. Announced himself as an AFL prospect when he kicked six goals from 26 disposals in the GWV Rebels’ loss to the Dandenong Stingrays in Round 4. He holds his width when playing on the wing, providing his team with an outlet option with its ball movement. Had a consistent year at club level averaging 19.6 disposals in 14 matches for the Rebels and finished third in the club’s best and fairest while playing in all four matches for Victoria Country. A strong all-round athlete, he ran a time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint during pre-season testing and then completed the 2km time trial in 6:13 at the national Draft Combine.
Clay Hall
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Peel Thunder
Community Club: Harvey Brunswick Leschenault
Date of Birth: 12/05/05
Height: 189cm
Prolific disposal winner who uses the ball effectively on his preferred left foot and excels at stoppages using his clean hands and vision to create for his team. Has already played nine matches at senior level with Peel Thunder averaging 18.9 disposals. Starred when he represented Western Australia at the National Championships averaging 27.2 disposals, 11 contested possessions, six clearances and five tackles to win All Australian honours. Is the son of former West Coast Eagles and Geelong Cats forward Derek Hall but is not eligible for either club under father-son rules given Derek played only two games for the Eagles and 74 matches for the Cats. Didn’t test at the Draft Combine due to injury.
Will Lorenz
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Boroondara Hawks
Date of Birth: 19/02/05
Height: 186cm
A lightly-built wingman or forward who produced some eye-catching matches last year including an under 17s game against Queensland where he had 32 disposals and kicked three goals to begin to build his profile. A left-footed kick with good speed as well as a neat step through traffic, he mixed his football between Marcellin College and the Oakleigh Chargers, averaging 19.4 disposals in seven matches for the latter. At representative level he played for the Australian under 18 team in their matches against Port Adelaide (SANFL) and Carlton (VFL) as well as playing three matches for Victoria Metro averaging 19 disposals. Tested soundly at the national Draft Combine with his 3.06 seconds for the 20m sprint and 6:33 for the 2km time trial both solid performances. He is the grandson of former Hawthorn premiership captain and AFL Hall of Fame member Graham Arthur.
Kane McAuliffe
State: South Australia
State League Club: North Adelaide
Community Club: Central Augusta
Date of Birth: 01/03/05
Height: 187cm
A big-bodied and powerful midfielder who wins his own ball and is a penetrating left-foot kick. Is a strong and aggressive tackler as well as being an accomplished extractor of the ball from stoppages using his clean hands and vision to set up the play. Progressed from dominating under 18s games at club level to playing seven matches at reserves level averaging 18.7 disposals. Featured among South Australia’s best in the National Championship matches against the Allies and Victoria Metro and averaged 18 disposals, 3.8 clearances and 8.5 tackles across the tournament. Showcased his power and speed at the national Draft Combine with his running vertical jump of 95cm ranking third and 2.93 seconds for the 20m spring ranking fifth.
Eion McElholm
Country: Ireland
County: County Tyrone
GAA Club: Loughmacrory
Date of Birth: 28/06/05
Height: 178cm
Small midfielder/forward who is a star of the Gaelic game. His work rate, speed and agility along with his innate ability to score are weapons that make him one of the top players of his age in Ireland. Is a slick decision maker and uses the round ball with absolute precision on both feet. Has adapted very quickly to the oval ball in tryouts in Australia. Reads the Gaelic game exceptionally well and has the athletic capabilities and mindset to convert to AFL. His dazzling speed was eye-catching at the national Draft Combine with a top 10 finish in the 20m sprint with his time of 2.99 seconds.
Aiden O’Driscoll
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Perth
Community Club: Northern Saints
Date of Birth: 22/07/05
Height: 175cm
Wingman who caught the eye with his pace for Western Australia at the National Championships and was among the best players against South Australia and Victoria Country. Showed good footy smarts to keep his width on the wing and provide an outlet for his team and generally was a neat ball user. His elite combination of speed and endurance set the national Draft Combine alight, where he was ranked number one for the 20m sprint with a blistering 2.87 seconds and finished fifth in the 2km time trial with an effort of 6:06. Played nine matches for Perth at under 18 level, averaging 15.8 disposals and kicking seven goals. Comes from an AFL football family with his brother Nathan and sister Emma both playing with Fremantle.
Tarkyn O’Leary
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: Parkdale Vultures
Date of Birth: 01/07/05
Height: 178cm
Left-footed wingman whose ability to run all day and present as an outlet option is a real asset. A neat distributor of the ball, he also has good footy smarts and a sharp competitive edge which allows him to be effective as an inside player when required. He averaged 15.4 disposals and 2.5 tackles in 13 matches for the Sandringham Dragons and was a member of their Coates Talent League premiership team. Was also a consistent performer for Victoria Metro at the National Championships. Was ranked first in the 2km time trial at the national Draft Combine with a time of 5:48.
Cooper Simpson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Community Club: Mt Martha
Date of Birth: 13/02/05
Height: 181cm
An ultra professional midfielder with pace, composure and great finishing skills. He also has a neat step through traffic and runs hard both offensively and defensively. Has shown the ability to perform when challenged and in the big moments when the game is on the line. Started the season in good touch with the Dandenong Stingrays but suffered an ankle injury in Victoria Country’s opening game of the National Championships and was unable to play any further matches at that level. Made an impressive return for the final four matches with the Stingrays including having 28 disposals against the Tasmania Devils which reminded scouts of his class and AFL potential.
Reece Torrent
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Peel Thunder
Community Club: Halls Head
Date of Birth: 03/08/05
Height: 184cm
Powerfully built wingman who impressed for Western Australia at the National Championships with his sharp competitive edge and game awareness. Was one of his state’s best against the Allies and played all four matches during the tournament, averaging 16.8 disposals and three tackles while showing a real appetite for the contest. Continued to develop with his club Peel Thunder throughout the year, where he progressed from the under 18s through the reserves before making his senior debut late in the year. Had strong performances in the agility test (8.26 seconds) and 2km time trial (6:24) at the national Draft Combine which demonstrated his athletic prowess.
Caleb Windsor
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: Lysterfield
Date of Birth: 09/06/05
Height: 184cm
A wingman with pace to burn. His preparedness to take the game on is a real weapon along with his decision making and ball use. Played all four games for Victoria Metro at the National Championships and was his team’s best player in the loss to the Allies, while also shining with 22 disposals in the win over Western Australia. Across his 16 matches with the Eastern Ranges in the Coates Talent League he averaged 19.4 disposals to be one of their most consistent players during their run to the grand final. Recorded a slick time of 2.92 seconds in the 20m sprint during the national Draft Combine highlighting his dazzling acceleration and backed it up by recording 6:28 for the 2km time trial which demonstrated a combination of elite speed and endurance so essential on the wing.
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Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Midfielders
STATE COMBINE
Oliver Badr
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Glen Eira
Date of Birth: 04/06/05
Height: 177cm
Small midfielder who can also play forward and use his footy smarts and game awareness to set up scoring opportunities and impact the scoreboard. Mixed his football between Scotch College and the Oakleigh Chargers, averaging 17.1 disposals and four tackles in seven matches in the Coates Talent League including having 23 disposals against eventual premiers the Sandringham Dragons in Round 10. Ran a strong 6:34 for the 2km time trial at the state Draft Combine.
Kynan Brown
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Blackburn
Date of Birth: 13/01/05
Height: 181cm
Left-footed inside midfielder who has quick hands, sharp vision and creates play through the middle of the ground with his creativity. Had a remarkably consistent year which included starring for Victoria Metro in the National Championships averaging 22.8 disposals at 80 percent efficiency as well as 4.5 clearances and 4.8 tackles to win their best and fairest award. Had similar numbers with the Oakleigh Chargers including kicking five goals and having 25 disposals in a best on ground performance in the Wildcard Round win against the Northern Knights. Tested very well at the Draft Combine with his 6:12 on the 2km time trial and 3.04 seconds for the 20m sprint rounding off a productive season. As the son of former Melbourne utility Nathan D Brown who played 146 games for the Demons, he is eligible to be selected under the father-son rule.
Will Brown
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: East Brighton Vampires
Date of Birth: 16/06/05
Height: 195cm
Tall midfielder who can also play as a third tall forward and be creative in kicking or setting up goals. A strong contested ball winner he captained Victoria Metro averaging 15.8 disposals and four clearances during the National Championships. Finished his season in great form by winning best on ground honours in the Coates Talent League Grand Final with 18 disposals and kicking three goals to captain the Sandringham Dragons to premiership glory. It followed a very consistent year at club level averaging 16.6 disposals and kicking 17 goals in 17 matches. His endurance was impressive at the state Draft Combine where he recorded a time of 6:23 for the 2km time trial.
Ashton Ferreira
State: Western Australia
State League Club: South Fremantle
Community Club: Jandekot Jets
Date of Birth: 03/04/05
Height: 184cm
Wingman who continued to progress as the year unfolded, graduating from under 18s, through to the reserves before playing three very impressive games at senior level for South Fremantle at the end of the year where he averaged 22.3 disposals. Represented Western Australia in all four of its matches at the National Championships with his speed a real weapon. He reinforced this asset recording 2.96 seconds for the 20m sprint at the state Draft Combine along with a slick agility test time of 8.13 seconds.
Kristian Ferronato
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Northern Knights
Community Club: Greensborough
Date of Birth: 19/01/05
Height: 184cm
Powerful midfielder who is a prolific ball winner averaging 28.3 disposals and 5.8 tackles in the Coates Talent League to finish fifth in the Morrish Medal. Had 41 disposals and kicked two goals in a best on ground performance for the AGS in the annual match against the APS demonstrating his ability to accumulate possessions and reinforcing his potential. Showed elite agility at the state Draft Combine with his 8.11 seconds on the agility test which ranked fifth overall at state level, while his 3.02 seconds for the 20m sprint was also solid. A former underage Australian basketballer he has now applied his competitive streak to football and has been an excitement machine this season.
Hugo Garcia
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Calder Cannons
Community Club: Greenvale
Date of Birth: 22/05/05
Height: 185cm
Medium midfielder who mixed his football between Assumption College and the Calder Cannons averaging 19.5 disposals and 7.1 tackles in his 11 matches for the latter in the Coates Talent League. His speed and ability one-on-one were impressive throughout the season. Was unable to test at the state Draft Combine but his 2.93 seconds on the 20m sprint at the Coates Talent League testing day at the beginning of the year gave a clear indication of his impressive acceleration.
Harry Grant
State: South Australia
State League Club: Central District
Community Club: Queanbeyan
Date of Birth: 03/07/01
Height: 173cm
Small midfielder who had an outstanding year for Central District and claimed the prestigious Magarey Medal as the best and fairest player in the SANFL. Was dominant in averaging 25.6 disposals (13 contested), 6.5 clearances and 7.1 tackles in his 20 matches. Originally from Canberra and a former member of the GWS Giants Academy, he has now played 45 games for Central District across three seasons and shapes as one of this year’s best mature-aged prospects. Impressed in testing at the state Draft Combine with his time 8.29 seconds on the agility test and 6:19 for the 2km time trial.
Patrick Hughes
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Geelong Falcons
Community Club: Torquay
Date of Birth: 20/03/05
Height: 183cm
Big-bodied midfielder who excels at stoppages using his strength and clean hands to win the ball and his vision and quick hands to set up play for his team. Had an outstanding year with the Geelong Falcons in the Coates Talent League to tie for the Morrish Medal with Tasmania Devils midfielder Colby McKercher after averaging 20 disposals and five tackles per game. Was also rewarded with selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year.
Lawson Humphries
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Swan Districts
Community Club: Wickham Wolves
Date of Birth: 24/04/03
Height: 182cm
Medium-sized midfielder from the Pilbara in the north of Western Australia who moved to Hale School in Perth to pursue his education and football. Formerly a member of the Flying Boomerangs program, he has progressed over three years at Swan Districts from the under 18s and reserves to senior football this year. Made his senior debut in Round 8 and averaged 15.8 disposals across nine matches in a promising start to his senior career. Showed very good athletic traits at the state Draft Combine recording 3.00 seconds on the 20m sprint and 8.28 seconds on the agility test.
Lachlan McArthur
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Western Jets
Community Club: Keilor
Date of Birth: 12/09/05
Height: 188cm
Versatile type who has shown potential through the midfield as well as forward and back over the past couple of years. Last year kicked six goals for the AGS against the APS in an impressive display and kicked three in the corresponding game this year. Mixed his football commitments between PEGS and the Western Jets, playing 11 matches for the latter with his best performance coming against eventual premiers the Sandringham Dragons when he amassed 24 disposals when playing predominantly in defence.
Oliver Poole
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Community Club: Echuca United
Date of Birth: 18/03/05
Height: 184cm
A smooth moving left-footer who covers the ground well and is a penetrating kick. Plays predominantly on the wing but can go forward or back. Had a consistent year with the Bendigo Pioneers averaging 14.7 disposals and kicking nine goals in 11 Coates Talent League matches. His 19 disposals and two goals in Round 15 against the Gippsland Power gave an indication of his potential. Had a taste of the National Championships playing one game for Victoria Country but looks to have plenty of upside with his development. His 6:16 seconds for the 2km at the state Draft Combine was an impressive performance and strong indicator of his competitiveness as well as his endurance.
Luca Slade
State: South Australia
State League Club: Sturt
Community Club: Glenunga
Date of Birth: 03/11/05
Height: 181cm
Medium midfielder who can play on the wing or inside using his work rate and footy IQ to get to contests and influence the play. Played all four National Championships matches for South Australia averaging 14 disposals and was a consistent performer at under 18 level for Sturt averaging 21.3 disposals and kicking 10 goals. His 3.04 seconds on the 20m sprint and 6:17 for the 2km time trial were both strong performances at the state Draft Combine.
Oskar Smartt
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Community Club; Leitchville Gunbower
Date of Birth: 26/10/05
Height: 180cm
Powerful midfielder/forward who is very strong in the contest and has an excellent leap with strong hands overhead. Showed good speed and courage in his 10 matches with the Bendigo Pioneers averaging 12.6 disposals and earned selection in two matches for Victoria Country at the National Championships, playing against South Australia and Victoria Metro. His 3.02 seconds on the 20m sprint at the state Draft Combine confirmed his pace.
Mahmoud Taha
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Calder Cannons
Community Club: Pascoe Vale
Date of Birth: 04/11/05
Height: 183cm
A prolific ball winner who makes sound decisions and has a thirst for the contest. Played three matches for Victoria Metro at the National Championships averaging 17.7 disposals and four tackles. Starred for the Calder Cannons in the Coates Talent League where he averaged 27.1 disposals in 12 matches, which included having over 30 possessions on six occasions. A member of the Bachar Houli Academy, he is also part of Essendon’s NGA program with the Bombers able to match any bid after selection 40 in this year’s Draft. His time of 6:39 seconds for the 2km time trial was a strong indication of his work rate and endurance.
Liam Walters
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: St Kevin’s
Date of Birth: 15/08/05
Height: 185cm
Medium midfielder who shows composure with his clean hands and good vision in winning and distributing the ball through the middle of the ground. Is a neat kick and was a prolific ball winner particularly in the back half of the year for the Oakleigh Chargers averaging 18.9 disposals per game, which included a season-high 29 touches against the Tasmania Devils in Round 13. Is also a key player for St Kevin’s and starred for the APS with a team-high 29 disposals (10 contested) and six clearances in their narrow win against the AGS in the back half of the year.
Riley Wills
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Subiaco
Community Club: Carine
Date of Birth: 08/07/04
Height: 178cm
A quick and agile midfielder whose good form this year saw him added to Western Australia’s squad once the National Championships were underway. His ball-winning ability and neat skills were on display in three matches for his state averaging 19.7 disposals (10 contested), four clearances and six tackles to impress at the level. Showcased his athletic prowess at the state Draft Combine with his 2.92 seconds for the 20m sprint, 7.98 seconds for the agility test and 94cm effort on the running vertical jump all ranked in the top five across all state Draft Combine participants.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062178/kevin-sheehans-2023-afl-draft-top-prospects-midfielders
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Richmond have had interest in Harvey Johnston.
Harvey Johnston who dominantly plays as a outside winger can play forward.
Averaged 15.3 disposals, 3.8 marks and 2.8 tackles in the talents league.
Harvey has a elite level of endurance, agility, disposal and speed.
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https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1722149339013976212
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Sounds right up Matt Clarke's alley #flankerfetish..... :shh
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Played as a mid with Metro.Edwards MK 11 :shh
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So we'll have to wait 7 years for him to come good then? Isn't Dow also supposed to be Edwards Mk.II? :shh :shh
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Kane McAuliffe to Richmond?
who says no?
South Australia, slickly goal kicking midfielder who played seniors footy at North Adelaide, would be expected around pick 40
Here’s some information on him for you!
Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lu6WB4WgHU&t=50s
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https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1722541020033044512
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Looks good 👌🤞
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Goal kicking mid who needs to work on his hurt factor?
I know these things are largely trash but that sounds contradicting or at least that he's crap at his defined role.
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So we'll have to wait 7 years for him to come good then? Isn't Dow also supposed to be Edwards Mk.II? :shh :shh
Based on that Dow will come good in 2026 which means this guy will be ready to take over the mantle from him in 2031.
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Any club need a mature-ager?
Draft nominations close on Monday. The most eyecatching nomination so far...
Phil Brown from Williamstown in the Victorian Super Rules competition, who lodged his date of birth as 1973. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Geelong list manager just got excited
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1722829868889698663
:snidegrin
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So we'll have to wait 7 years for him to come good then? Isn't Dow also supposed to be Edwards Mk.II? :shh :shh
Based on that Dow will come good in 2026 which means this guy will be ready to take over the mantle from him in 2031.
:shh
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Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Tall forwards
NATIONAL COMBINE
Nate Caddy
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Northern Knights
Community Club: Yarrambat
Date of Birth:14/07/05
Height: 193cm
A pack marking forward with a vice-like grip overhead who has a real physical presence with his impact inside 50. Has also shown he can provide a lift for his team with his ability to win the contested ball as a midfielder when the occasion arises. Had an outstanding year with the Northern Knights averaging 16.3 disposals and 6.2 marks across nine matches to earn selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. Kicked 39 goals across all matches in the talent pathway this year, which included games for Victoria Metro and the Australia under 18 team. Tested extremely well at the national Draft Combine with results of 3.02 seconds on the 20m sprint along with 6:35 for the 2km time trial indications of his athletic prowess. Is the nephew of two-time Richmond premiership star Josh Caddy.
Conor Corbett
Country: Ireland
County: County Cork
GAA Club: Clyda Rovers
Date of Birth: 09/03/02
Height: 190 cm Weight 88 kg
An exciting forward emerging at senior County level for Cork after being nominated as Gaelic football’s Under 17 Player of the Year in 2019 after he captained Cork to win an All-Ireland final and was its most influential player. A gifted powerful type with a high football IQ in the round ball Gaelic game, he adapted very quickly to the oval ball in training and tryouts and was immediately proficient with his delivery on his right and left foot. Looked every bit a first-choice athlete at the national Draft Combine with his running vertical jump of 86cm and a time of 6:35 for the 2km time trial.
Luke Lloyd
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: De La Salle
Date of Birth 08/08/05
Height: 193cm
Talented forward who has a real instinct for the game. Reads the cues as a forward, presents in the right spot at the right time and has one touch hands. Was at his best kicking four goals for the Sandringham Dragons against the Gippsland Power and Western Jets in the middle part of the year. He missed some matches with a leg injury later in the year before returning to play in the Dragons’ grand final winning team. He averaged 13 disposals and 5.6 marks and kicked 21 goals in 11 matches in the Coates Talent League. Also got a taste of VFL football playing a couple of matches with Frankston. His 6:35 seconds for 2km time trial at the national Draft Combine was a sound effort by a tall forward.
Logan Morris
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Western Jets
Community Club: Werribee Districts
Date of Birth: 10/05/05
Height: 191cm
A strong marking forward who showed his versatility by playing back for Victoria Metro in the National Championships matches against South Australia and the Allies before kicking four goals in an impressive display forward against Western Australia. Has continued to build on his ability to keep presenting as a mobile marking target, while clean hands at ground level are another key part of his skill set. Booted 30 goals in 10 matches in the Coates Talent League while averaging 11.7 disposals and 4.8 marks to be rewarded with Team of the Year honours.
Archer Reid
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Inverloch-Kongwak
Date of Birth: 19/09/05
Height: 203cm
A tall forward who is an exceptional overhead mark, extremely mobile, good below his knees and has a natural goal sense. Continued to develop physically and improved his forward craft as the season progressed. Averaged 13.5 disposals, five marks and kicked 16 goals in 11 Coates Talent League matches for the Gippsland Power to finish runner-up in the club’s best and fairest award. Also presented as a mobile target for Victoria Country in all four National Championships matches, which included kicking two goals and proving very lively in the impressive win over Victoria Metro. Is the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach.
Xavier Walsh
State: Western Australia
State League Club: East Perth
Community Club: Mt Lawley Inglewood
Date of Birth: 06/09/05
Height: 195cm
Left-footed tall forward who had an interrupted year with injury and suspension but left a positive impression with his strong contested marking. Has shown he is capable of performing at both ends of the ground. Played eight games at under 18 level for East Perth averaging 10.3 disposals and 3.6 marks as well as kicking 13 goals. Represented his state against the Allies at the National Championships, where he took four marks and kicked a goal from his eight disposals. His natural leap was impressive at the national Draft Combine with a running vertical jump of 87cm.
Jed Walter
State: Queensland
State League Club: Gold Coast Suns Academy
Community Club: Palm Beach Currumbin
Date of Birth: 08/06/05
Height: 194cm
A strong and powerful tall forward who has taken all before him in the past two years starring for the Gold Coast Suns Academy and the Allies and is a back-to-back All Australian at under 18 level. Has a real physical presence up forward with his appetite for the contest, along with his second efforts and tackling pressure. Was a threatening target up forward for the Allies during the National Championships averaging 13 disposals and seven marks as well as kicking 11 goals in four matches to be a vital cog in the title-winning team. Overall, he kicked 29 goals in eight matches this year to round off a splendid underage career which will result in a bid from a rival club very early on Draft night which the Suns will gladly match.
STATE COMBINE
Hugh Byrne
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Community Club: Echuca
Date of Birth: 19/10/05
Height: 194cm
Mobile tall forward who presented well as a marking target for the Bendigo Pioneers throughout the 2023 season. Played 14 matches in the Coates Talent League where he averaged 12.2 disposals, three marks and kicked 18 goals. Had a standout game against the Calder Cannons in Round 13 with 20 disposals, six marks and two goals. Was unable to test at Combine due to injury.
Calsher Dear
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: Beaumaris
Date of Birth: 04/08/05
Height: 195cm
Tall forward who had played more basketball than elite football until this year but really began to emerge for the Sandringham Dragons as the year progressed. Is still very raw but has shown mercurial ability in the air and finished the year as a threatening target up forward for the Coates Talent League premiers kicking 21 goals from his 15 matches. Is the son of former Hawthorn star and 1991 Norm Smith medalist Paul Dear who played 123 games, making him eligible to the Hawks under the father-son rule.
Liam Fawcett
State: South Australia
State League Club: Central District
Community Club: Pooraka
Date of Birth: 22/04/05
Height: 197cm
Strong marking tall forward who is mobile and a reliable set shot for goal in clutch moments. Averaged 15.4 disposals and 6.6 marks in 16 games for Central District at under 18 level this year and booted 32 goals, including one with the last kick to win a final. Also represented South Australia in two games at the National Championships and booted two goals against the Allies. Tested soundly at the state Draft Combine with his 3.08 seconds for the 20m sprint and 6:38 for the 2km time trial both strong performances for a key forward.
Harry Francis
State: South Australia
State League Club: Glenelg
Community Club: PHOS Camden
Date of Birth: 19/06/05
Height: 195cm
Tall forward with an exciting natural leap which he uses to great effect with his marking up forward as well as when he pushes into the ruck. Mobile and good at ground level, he averaged 13.6 disposals and 4.9 marks and kicked 12 goals for Glenelg’s under 18 team this year as well as representing his state at the National Championships in the match against Victoria Metro. His running vertical jump of 95cm was ranked second across all state Draft Combine participants and highlighted his unique spring.
Jacob Grant
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Community Club: Endeavor Hills
Date of Birth: 18/07/05
Height: 193cm
A promising tall forward who caught the eye with his marking and prowess around goals for the Dandenong Stingrays to earn selection for Victoria Country in two matches at the National Championships. Played 13 matches for the Stingrays in the Coates Talent League this year, averaging 9.1 disposals and 4.1 marks as well as kicking 12 goals to grab the attention of scouts. His 91cm running vertical jump was impressive at the state Draft Combine.
Luker Kentfield
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Subiaco
Community Club: Carine
Date of Birth: 10/09/05
Height: 194cm
A well-built and aggressive tall forward who progressed this year from the under 18s to play ten matches at senior level for Subiaco. His physical presence and marking are both features of his play. Showed strength in the air and mobility as a target forward in three appearances for Western Australia at the National Championships. Kicked 22 goals across 20 matches this season at various levels in the talent pathway. His 8.42 seconds for the agility test at the state Draft Combine was a strong indicator of his mobility.
Charlie McCormack
State: NSW/ACT
State League Club: GWS Giants Academy/Murray Bushrangers
Community Club: Coolamon
Date of Birth: 02/04/05
Height: 198cm
Lightly-built forward from the Riverina of New South Wales who was one of the real surprise packets for the Allies in their unbeaten run in the National Championships. Kicked 11 goals in four matches, which included a bag of four against Western Australia. Showed not only mercurial ability in the air but lightning reflexes at ground level and looks to have plenty of upside. Also showed positive glimpses of his potential with the GWS Giants Academy and later the Murray Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League. His 6:38 for the 2km time trial was impressive for a player of his size.
Michael Rudd
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Geelong Falcons
Community Club: St Mary’s
Date of Birth: 14/05/05
Height: 193cm
A left-footer who has an outstanding work rate and presents as a marking target with a vice-like grip overhead. He was a consistent performer all year for Geelong Falcons to earn selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year and also represented Victoria Country. Kicked 23 goals across all competitions this season and averaged 14 disposals and four marks across 16 games. His elite running capacity and competitiveness was highlighted with his 6:17 for the 2km time trial at the state Draft Combine.
Sam van Rooyen
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: Scarborough
Date of Birth: 24/02/05
Height: 193cm
Tall forward who had a breakout game early in the season where he booted five goals from 15 disposals and nine marks which saw him added to the Western Australian squad for the National Championships. Ended up kicking 22 goals in 14 matches for the season to appear on the scouts’ radar. Is a mobile and agile player with strong hands on the lead and overhead. He finished the year with a dazzling display of athleticism at the state Draft Combine with his 7.90 seconds for the agility test a remarkable insight into his untapped potential. Is the brother of Melbourne forward Jacob van Rooyen.
Riley Weatherill
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Eastern Ranges
Community Club: East Ringwood
Date of Birth: 21/11/05
Height: 197cm
Had an impressive finish to his season in the Eastern Ranges’ journey to the Coates Talent League Grand Final. Booted 13 majors in the last month to finish with a competition-high 37 goals for the season. A strong mark on the lead with a sharp turn of foot out he’s a difficult match up when he receives consistent supply from the midfield. Had 11 disposals and kicked a goal in his one appearance for Victoria Metro.
Patrick Weckert
State: South Australia
State League Club: Woodville-West Torrens
Community Club: Brinkworth Spalding Redhill
Date of Birth: 23/01/05
Height: 191cm
Powerful player who presents as a strong marking target with his speed on the lead and physical presence. Looks to have plenty of improvement left in him having only last year begun to focus on an AFL opportunity after playing state cricket at junior level. Has had a taste of senior in a handful of SANFL games over the past two years as well as being South Australia’s key forward at this year’s National Championships. Was at his best kicking five goals at reserves level for Woodville-West Torrens in Round 20. Kicked a total of 29 goals in the South Australian talent pathway this year with his 3.08 seconds for the 20m sprint and 6:38 seconds for the 2km time trial both strong performances at the state Draft Combine.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062555/kevin-sheehans-2023-afl-draft-top-prospects-tall-forwards-and-rucks
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Kevin Sheehan’s 2023 AFL Draft top prospects: Rucks
NATIONAL COMBINE
Mitchell Edwards
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Peel Thunder
Community Club: South Mandurah
Date of Birth: 02/06/05
Height: 206cm
An exciting ruckman still growing into his body. Has the height and natural leap to give his team a distinct advantage at stoppages. Has continued to develop this year and shown glimpses of his aerial ability at state under 18 level and took several exciting marks during the National Championships. A mobile and competitive player still honing his ruck craft, he is a member of Fremantle’s NGA program with the Dockers able to match a rival club’s bid should it come after selection 40 in the Draft. Tested well at the national Draft Combine with his running vertical jump of 94cm ranked fifth overall, while his 3.07 seconds on the 20m sprint was impressive for a player of his size.
Taylor Goad
State: South Australia
State League Club: South Adelaide
Community Club: Willunga
Date of Birth: 28/04/05
Height: 206cm
Developing ruckman who has only begun to focus on a potential AFL career this year after initially applying his natural talent to basketball. Showed splendid improvement this year playing for his state and club at under 18 level. Impressed in South Adelaide’s premiership campaign where he averaged 10.4 disposals, 25 hitouts and 2.2 marks in 13 matches. Both his standing vertical jump of 74cm and 20m sprint time of 2.965 seconds were ranked in the top 10 at the national Draft Combine and gave distinct indications of his elite athletic tools which could become weapons in the AFL.
Will Green
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Northern Knights
Community Club: Northcote
Date of Birth: 08/09/05
Height: 204cm
Developing tall who impressed throughout the year with his ruck craft, marking and mobility when playing for the Northern Knights, Victoria Metro and the Australia under 18s team. Holds his ground very well both under the ball in stoppages and marking contests and often provided great opportunities for his teammates at ground level. Averaged 12 disposals and 24 hitouts when representing Victoria Metro at the National Championships to earn All Australian honours. Both his running vertical jump of 87cm and 2km time of 6:34 seconds at the national Draft Combine were impressive indicators of his natural leap and endurance.
Evan Smith
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Swan Districts
Community Club: Aveley
Date of Birth: 11/08/05
Height: 201cm
A ruckman or forward, he was included in Western Australia’s squad for the National Championships after a breakout game at Colts level for Swan Districts against South Fremantle where he collected 18 disposals, six marks, 42 hitouts and kicked two goals. Played three games at the Championships and gave a thin slice of his potential against Victoria Country when he took four marks in attack but was off target with his kicking, finishing with 1.3. Missed the end of the season due to a back injury after playing nine games in the WAFL Colts where he averaged 13.1 disposals and 4.6 marks per game.
Vigo Visentini
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Sandringham Dragons
Community Club: Brighton Beach
Date of Birth: 05/09/05
Height: 204cm
A promising ruckman with the size and athletic ability to have a real influence on the play. Was an important member of the Sandringham Dragons’ back-to-back premiership wins in the Coates Talent League over the past two years. A strong overhead mark with a good natural leap, he averaged 12 disposals and 20.6 hitouts in 11 matches for the Dragons this season as well as showing promise in two matches for Victoria Metro at the National Championships. He is the younger brother of Dante Visentini who made his AFL debut for Port Adelaide this season.
STATE COMBINE
Boston Dowling
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Old Trinity Grammarians
Date of Birth: 08/04/05
Height: 204cm
Mobile ruckman/forward who is still honing his craft playing eleven matches for the Chargers this year averaging 11 disposals, two marks and 13.5 hitouts but it was for the AGS in its annual representative game against the APS that he gave a glimpse of his obvious potential having 17 disposals, 29 hitouts and seven clearances. Recorded an 84cm running vertical jump and 3.16 seconds for the 20m sprint at the state Draft Combine which were good results for a player of his size.
Odin Jones
State: Western Australia
State League Club: West Perth
Community Club: Joondalup Kinross
Date of Birth: 20/09/05
Height: 199cm
Super competitive ruckman who has the potential to also develop into a tall defender with his athletic profile and skill set. Is strong in his attack on the ball in the air and follows up with real purpose at ground level. Had a consistent season at club under 18 level averaging 15.8 disposals and 3.6 marks and kicking seven goals in nine matches after missing the majority of 2022 with injury.
Coen Livingstone
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Perth
Community Club: York
Date of Birth: 25/05/05
Height: 199cm
Developing ruckman/forward who had an immediate impact when he came into the Western Australia team at the National Championships, amassing 16 disposals, 17 hitouts and a goal in the 26-point win over South Australia. Had an impressive at club under 18 level for Perth averaging 16 disposals, four marks and booting 20 goals to earn Team of the Year honours for the WAFL Colts. Is the nephew of former Hawthorn star Chance Bateman and a member of the West Coast Eagles’ Next Generation Academy, meaning they can match any bid from a rival club after pick 40.
Caleb May
State: NSW/ACT
State League Club: Sydney Swans Academy
Community Club: Southwest Sydney Blues
Date of Birth: 13/05/05
Height: 207cm
A mountain of a young man who is still developing his ruck craft. He has taken giant strides this year with the Sydney Swans Academy and played a key role in the ruck for the all-conquering Allies at the National Championships. Under the tutelage of renowned ruck coach and former star Steve Taubert, he applied his craft in averaging 33 hitouts and 13.4 disposals in the Swans Academy’s five matches in the Coates Talent League before playing all four matches with the Allies to give their midfield great support.
Joe Pike
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Geelong Falcons
Community Club: Barwon Heads
Date of Birth: 17/05/05
Height: 203cm
A giant young ruckman still filling into his frame who is raw and a work in progress. Comes from a basketball background and is still honing his craft around stoppages. Had a consistent year with the Geelong Falcons averaging 11.5 disposals, 2.5 marks and 25.3 hitouts as well as playing three matches for Victoria Country at the National Championships. His 8.53 seconds on the agility test was impressive for a player of his size at the state Draft Combine.
Lachlan Smith
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Warragul
Date of Birth: 05/10/05
Height: 202cm
Left-footed ruckman who uses his impressive frame to compete ferociously at stoppages and can win his own ball. Was a strong contributor all year for the Gippsland Power in the Coates Talent League averaging 16.8 disposals, 3.7 marks and 19.4 hitouts. Was particularly impressive for Victoria Country in its win over Western Australia at the National Championships. Was unable to test at the state Draft Combine due to injury but his 3.13 seconds on the 20m sprint at the Coates Talent League testing day earlier in the year was an insight into his mobility for a ruckman.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062555/kevin-sheehans-2023-afl-draft-top-prospects-tall-forwards-and-rucks
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We've been linked to Morris.
AFL Draft Profile: Logan Morris
A medium-sized spearhead who is an elite marker of the football thanks to his aerial capacity.
Mitch Keating
Zerohanger.com
November 9, 2023
Western Jets key forward Logan Morris is a strong and high-leaping attacker who can play much taller than his 191cm frame suggests.
The Werribee Districts junior booted 30 goals for the Jets this year from 10 games to finish equal third on the Talent League leaderboard, backing up his 31-goal campaign from last year to impress over the last 18 months and earn National Championships experience in both seasons.
Morris would earn a call-up to Vic Metro in 2023 alongside the likes of Nate Caddy, Nick Watson and Jordan Croft to form a lethal front third, with the centre-half-forward's best outing coming against Western Australia where he booted four goals.
While the tape stops to see Morris measured as a medium-sized forward, his vertical and aerial capacity allows him to have a high level of impact in marking contests, where he can also rely on his strong hands to bring the ball down.
His strength and long kicking also combine to give Morris a great chance of winning possession as a forward target and the confidence to strike a shot on goal from distance.
The market for key forwards this year sees Morris sit among the top few that are available to all 18 clubs, with a club late into the first round of the draft potentially calling his name.
St Kilda (Picks 21 and 40), Richmond (Pick 29 and 41), Collingwood (Pick 33) and Fremantle (Pick 34) would all be considering key forwards at the draft and hold selections that are likely to fall in Morris' estimated draft range.
His ability to out-muscle his opponents and have a resounding presence in the front third could draw comparisons to Collingwood spearhead Dan McStay or premiership Melbourne forward Tom McDonald.
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Profile
Position: Key Forward
Height: 191cm
Weight: 90kg
State: Victoria
Club: Werribee Districts
Strengths
Aerial Threat
Marking
Strength
Scoreboard Impact
Draft Range
25-50
Potential Landing Spots
St Kilda (Picks 21+40)
Richmond (Pick 29+41)
Collingwood (Pick 33)
Fremantle (Pick 34)
AFL Comparison
Dan McStay
Tom McDonald
Expert comments
"A strong-marking forward, Morris forced his way into the Vic Metro under-18 team for a taste of national championship football in his bottom-age year in 2022. Morris has continued to build on his ability to keep presenting as a mobile marking target, while clean hands at ground level are another key part of his skill set." - Kevin Sheehan
https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-profile-logan-morris-145470/
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Wow dare to dream - McStay & McDonald - don't oversell him too much..... ::)
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Odds are is that we pick a skinny left footer or a tall spud we need to develop with our first pick and we luck out on a decent player with our last pick.
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Odds are is that we pick a skinny left footer or a tall spud we need to develop with our first pick and we luck out on a decent player with our last pick.
Take it to the bank
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Odds are is that we pick a skinny left footer or a tall spud we need to develop with our first pick and we luck out on a decent player with our last pick.
Nathan Philactides - Matt Clarke special.... :shh
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Odds are is that we pick a skinny left footer or a tall spud we need to develop with our first pick and we luck out on a decent player with our last pick.
Nathan Philactides - Matt Clarke special.... :shh
Goes to the same hairdresser as Hugo, mind you at 80 kg he is probably not skinny enough
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking
1. Harley Reid ............... 17/04/05 185cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country Midfield/forward
2. Jed Walter ................ 08/06/05 195cm 94kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Key forward
3. Zane Duursma .......... 20/08/05 189cm 80kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
4. Colby McKercher ....... 12/04/05 182cm 76kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Midfielder
5. Nick Watson ............. 24/02/05 170cm 68kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Forward
6. Daniel Curtin ............ 08/03/05 195cm 94kg Claremont/Western Australia Key defender/forward
7. Ryley Sanders .......... 21/01/05 186cm 85kg Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons/Allies Midfielder
8. Nate Caddy .............. 14/07/05 192cm 91kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Key forward/midfielder
9. Ethan Read .............. 07/07/05 200cm 88kg Gold Coast Academy/Palm Beach/Allies Ruck
10. Connor O'Sullivan ... 19/05/05 198cm 92kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Key defender/forward
11. Caleb Windsor ........ 09/06/05 185cm 74kg Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro Midfielder
12. James Leake .......... 10/02/05 188cm 75kg Tasmania/Launceston/Allies Defender
13. Jake Rogers ........... 02/03/05 172cm 69kg Gold Coast Academy/Broadbeach/Allies Midfielder (+1)
14. Jordan Croft ........... 12/05/05 201cm 80kg Calder Cannons/Vic Metro Key forward (-1)
15. Darcy Wilson .......... 18/08/05 185cm 73kg Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country Midfielder/forward
16. Koltyn Tholstrup ..... 28/06/05 186cm 86kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward/midfielder
17. Riley Hardeman ...... 27/02/05 188cm 80kg Swan Districts/Western Australia Midfielder (+1)
18. Lance Collard ......... 26/03/05 185cm 66kg Subiaco/Western Australia Forward (-1)
19. Will McCabe ........... 29/09/05 197cm 81kg Central District/South Australia Key defender/forward
20. Harry DeMattia ...... 11/09/05 184cm 77kg Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country Midfielder/forward (+1)
21. Charlie Edwards ..... 18/05/05 190cm 82kg Sandringham Dragon/Vic Metro Midfielder (+3)
22. Tew Jiath ............... 02/03/05 187cm 71kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Defender (+1)
23. Archie Roberts ....... 18/11/05 184cm 77kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Defender (-1)
24. Ollie Murphy .......... 16/09/05 200cm 85kg Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro Key defender (-4)
25. Will Green ............. 08/09/05 204cm 89kg Northern Knights/Vic Metro Ruck
26. Mitch Edwards ........ 02/06/05 206cm 88kg Peel Thunder/Western Australia Ruck
27. Archie Reid ............ 19/09/05 203cm 93kg Gippsland Power/Vic Country Key forward
28. Pheonix Gothard ..... 07/09/05 178cm 72kg Murray Bushrangers/Allies Forward (+1)
29. Taylor Goad ........... 24/05/05 206cm 97kg South Adelaide/South Australia Ruck (+1)
30. George Stevens ...... 10/08/05 189cm 93kg GWV Rebels/Vic Country Midfielder (-2)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062561/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-november-ranking
Dropped out from previous Top 30 rankings:
Jack Delean ........... 15/04/05 181cm 73kg South Adelaide/South Australia Forward (-2, Sept.)
Ashton Moir ........... 15/04/05 188cm 84kg Glenelg/South Australia Forward (-1, Sept.)
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AFL Draft Power Rankings 26-50: VFL star, on-ball beast among hidden gems clubs can snap up
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 11th, 2023
While there’s ample focus on the first round of this year’s AFL draft, there are dozens of talented prospects that loom as steals for clubs.
Foxfooty.com.au presents the first part of the final 2023 AFL Draft Power Rankings, with players rated 26 to 50 (presented in reverse order).
Note: This is not a ‘phantom draft’ predicting where players will be taken across the draft nights.
26. GEORGE STEVENS
Position: Midfielder/medium defender
Size: 189cm
Clubs: GWV Rebels/South Warrnambool
AFL player comparison: Ollie Wines
Couldn’t have done much more on the field this year to boost his prospects. Stevens was a standout for Vic Country across the carnival and starred for the Rebels in the Coates Talent League, averaging a whopping 29 disposals, five tackles and five inside 50. Just as impressive were his outings for Geelong’s VFL side, racking up 16 touches against Coburg then 29 against Collingwood. He finished third in the Morrish medal voting and was named captain of the league’s team of the year. A powerfully-built 189cm prospect, Stevens spent some time in defence this year, but clubs preferred seeing him as an on-baller where he showed off his cleanliness, decision-making skills and natural ball-winning ability. While there are question marks on Stevens’ athletic profile and whether he has AFL-level speed and agility, he plays with great presence when he goes on the ball and is hard to push over in the contest.
27. KOEN SANCHEZ
Position: Small forward/midfielder
Size: 176cm
Clubs: East Fremantle/Applecross Mt Pleasant
AFL player comparison: Sam Flanders
This will be too high for some, but we’re big fans of Sanchez — a pocket rocket and natural footballer who booted 6.8 and averaged 18 disposals and nine contested possessions for WA at the carnival. Sanchez played in the midfield for two champs games and as a forward for the other two. Clubs were particularly thrilled by Sanchez’s output when he played closer to goal in the champs as he showed off his powerful kick, goal sense, speed and agility. He was a ball magnet at WAFL colts level, averaging 25 disposals from six games. The reality is if he joins an AFL club, he’ll start as a small forward — and could play early. After being hampered by hip and groin issues for several years, Sanchez delivered at the right time of the year.
28. LUAMON LUAL
Position: Medium defender
Size: 182cm
Clubs: GWV Rebels/South Warrnambool
AFL player comparison: Lachie Ash
There’s ample excitement around this defender, who got better with every champs game he played and finished on a high with a spectacular performance against Vic Metro, including a breathtaking third-quarter goal. He also had a crack on the ball at the Rebels during the second half of the season, but his 21-disposal elimination final performance against the Falcons reminded scouts how damaging he can be as a backman. He was runner-up in the Rebels’ best and fairest and earned selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. A speedy and balanced prospect who provides explosive run off half-back yet is just as adept when defending one-on-one, Lual looms as an ideal mid-sized backman for AFL clubs. The Western Bulldogs, who are linked to Lual via their Next Generation Academy, are hoping that club will be them. But they can only match a bid on him if it comes within the top 40 picks — and considering the post-champs hype around Lual from clubs, it seems highly unlikely he’ll still be on the board by then.
29. HARRY DEMATTIA
Position: Midfielder/medium forward
Size: 185cm
Clubs: Dandenong Stingrays/Edithvale-Aspendale
AFL player comparison: Jack Sinclair
Eleven months after running drinks and Kookaburra bats out to Marnus Labuschagne — and copping a sledge from Proteas captain Dean Elgar — during the Boxing Day test, DeMattia could be on an AFL list. After being appointed Stingrays captain for 2023, DeMattia put all his focus into footy — and that decision has paid off, impressing across all three lines at different levels. He kicked five goals from his first three Coates Talent League game playing as a high half-forward then had 30 touches in his last home and away game against the Devils. And in Vic Country’s final national carnival game, DeMattia played on Nick Watson and clamped him when the game was up for grabs. DeMattia has genuine speed, clean hands and versatility, while his pressure game, competitiveness and elite ball use also appeals to AFL clubs
30. MITCH EDWARDS
Position: Medium defender
Size: 187cm
Clubs: Gippsland Power/Morwell
AFL player comparison: Tim English
A slide down the rankings from the start of the year for Edwards, who didn’t have a lot of luck at times during this year. After impressive outings for the AFL Academy, Edwards copped a corky against South Australia then suffered a concussion against Vic Country, which meant he missed the last game against Vic Metro. He finished the season in Peel Thunder’s reserves side, playing six games. One of the best pure rucks in the draft, Edwards has great ruck craft and aerial competitiveness, while his running vertical jump of 94cm — ranked fifth overall — proved how good is leap is. Edwards is linked to Fremantle via its Next Generation Academy, but the Dockers can only match a bid on him if it comes outside the top 40 — and even though there’s been a cooling regarding top-10 calculations, it’s unlikely Edwards is getting picked that late.
31. TEW JIATH
Position: Medium defender
Size: 187cm
Clubs: Gippsland Power/Morwell
AFL player comparison: Nick Vlastuin
Didn’t play for Vic Country and didn’t get a national combine invite, but Jiath is an outside chance to be taken in the first round of this year’s draft. Jiath has surged up draft boards during the back-end of Gippsland Power’s Coates Talent League campaign, providing eye-catching dash, dare and intercept ability off half-back. His 29-disposal wildcard round display against the Stingrays was particularly noteworthy. Jiath is the younger brother of Hawks defender Changkuoth Jiath. While ‘CJ’ breaks lines with his run and carry, Jiath is more of a creator and neat distributor off half-back. He’s part of Hawthorn’s Next Generation Academy, meaning the Hawks have rights to match a bid on him if it comes after Pick 40. But Hawthorn appears increasingly likely to miss out on its top NGA prospect, who’s now expected to be drafted within the first 40 selections.
32. TAYLOR GOAD
Position: Ruck
Size: 206cm
Clubs: South Adelaide/Willunga
AFL player comparison: Max Gawn
Another ruck seemingly destined to be taken at the national draft. Goad upped the ante after the national championships, averaging 15 disposals, 24 hit-outs, five clearances and four inside 50s in South Adelaide’s final three SANFL Under 18s home and away games. He then played an integral role in the team’s premiership, with 13 disposals, three contested marks, five clearances and 17 hit-outs in the grand final triumph. The former basketballer at the combine then showed off his insane athleticism for a player of his height, running a 2.97-second 20m sprint to go with a 74cm standing vertical jump. Goad prides himself on staying involved in the game post-ruck contests, even if it’s at ground level. SA coach Tony Bamford told AFL Media Goad has “the most upside of any player in our state”, adding: “He’s got a midfield mindset in a Max Gawn body.
33. LOGAN MORRIS
Position: Medium forward/defender
Size: 192cm
Clubs: Western Jets/Werribee Districts
AFL player comparison: Oscar Allen
A consistent goalkicker over the past two years with the potential to be a damaging third tall at AFL level. After booting 31 goals from 14 games as a bottom-ager for the Jets, Morris kicked 30 majors from 10 games this year, including seven hauls of at least three goals. He also showed showing off his versatility for Vic Metro, playing the first two carnival games in defence before being swung forward for the final two games. Morris against WA kicked 4.1 from 16 disposals, while he also plucked 11 marks (five contested) as he showed off his elite hands and improved his aerobic capacity. Also kicked two goals in a one-off VFL game for Werribee.
34. PHOENIX GOTHARD
Position: Small forward
Size: 178cm
Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Albury
AFL player comparison: Jamie Cripps
Gothard has several traits that have AFL clubs excited. He’s a clean, one-touch player who’s also quick and agile. He’s a two-way player, in that he impacts the scoreboard yet also applies relentless pressure. Plus he has a great vertical leap and maximises his disposals in the forward half of the ground. Gothard really put himself on the radar during the national champs where he averaged one goal a game. He was also impressive for the Murray Bushrangers in the Coates Talent League, booting nine goals and averaging 16 disposals and 3.7 tackles across 10 matches. No wonder clubs are excited.
35. WILL GRAHAM
Position: Medium defender/midfielder
Size: 186cm
Clubs: Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin
AFL player comparison: Jarrod Berry
Jed Walter, Ethan Read and Jake Rogers have been all the rage this year, but Graham is the fourth Suns academy prospect that can’t be forgotten. In fact he’s been invited to attend the first night of the draft, suggesting a club could bid on him in the 20s. Graham averaged 16.5 disposals and 5.0 marks while going at 79.5 per cent efficiency by foot for the Allies during the national championships playing primarily as a defender with a few midfield stints. He also had VFL exposure, playing four games for the Suns and averaging 9.7 disposals. Graham then finished second in the 20m sprint (2.915 seconds) and third in both vertical jump tests at the national draft combine. Graham is quick and powerful, yet also clean and composed with ball in hand.
36. ZANE ZAKOSTELSKY
Position: Key defender/ruck
Size: 196cm
Clubs: Claremont/North Beach
AFL player comparison: Noah Balta
A raw yet athletic talent with enormous upside — and he’s a December baby. After starting his colts year as a ruck, Zakostelsky caught the eye as an intercept defender for WA after getting a call-up to play the final two games. He then went back to Claremont colts where he finished the season with three brilliant finals performances as a ruck, capped off by a 22-disposal display in the grand final that won him best on ground honours. Zakostelsky then did his draft bolter status no harm at the combine with top-10 finishes in the standing vertical jump (1st), agility test (5th), 20m sprint (6th) and running vertical jump (6th). Speaking about Zakostelsky, Claremont teammate Daniel Curtin told foxfooty.com.au: “He’s got a lot to offer and crazy athletic. I’m extremely proud of his growth.”
37. ANGUS HASTIE
Position: Medium defender
Size: 190cm
Clubs: Geelong Falcons/Geelong West Giants
AFL player comparison: Mitchell Hinge
The Falcons footy factory’s best prospect this season. Hastie started his year strongly, averaging 24.6 disposals fro his first five Coates Talent League matches before his volume of disposals dropped slightly during the back-half of the year. Still, Hastie is a great interceptor, always looks to stay involved in the play and has impressive run and dash, which allows him to set up play off half-back. He also showed off his lockdown ability in the national carnival, shutting down Vic Metro star Nate Caddy at Ikon Park in a fascinating match-up. He then produced the third best time (8.20 seconds) in the agility test at the national combine, too.
38. JACK DELEAN
Position: Small forward
Size: 181cm
Clubs: South Adelaide/Reynella
AFL player comparison: Jack Ginnivan
A genuine goalsneak at every level he’s played at. Delean was a constant threat inside 50 at the national championships — despite South Australia’s poor carnival — finishing with 9.3 playing predominantly close to goal. He then slotted into South Adelaide’s SANFL league team with aplomb, booting two goals in each of his three games. Most notably, he showed a willingness to work up the ground and provide a link option for South Adelaide, while also directly impacting the scoreboard with his excellent goal nous. Was then rewarded with a premiership medallion as part of South Adelaide’s Under 18s premiership, with Delean finishing with 38 goals from 13 games at that level. Scouts do have doubts over his running capacity and defensive pressure, but he’s quick on the lead, has an exciting leap and strong hands.
39. WIL DAWSON
Position: Key defender
Size: 200cm
Clubs: Gippsland Power/Leongatha
AFL player comparison: Esava Ratugolea
A 200cm prospect who’s played across all three lines and doesn’t turn 18 until December: Everything about Dawson screams ‘upside’ at AFL level. After starting as a ruck-forward for Gippsland, Dawson was moved into defence and thrived in his new role. While he didn’t win a lot of the footy, his intercept ability and aerial competitiveness was strikingly impressive. Remarkably, he’s grown 20cm in the past two years — but he’s maintained his cleanliness below his knees. Scouts wouldn’t be surprised if a club took a punt on Dawson with a late first-round pick.
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40. COOPER SIMPSON
Position: Midfielder
Size: 182cm
Clubs: Dandenong Stingrays/Mt Martha
AFL player comparison: Luke Davies-Uniacke
An ankle injury in his first champs game meant he missed the remaining three matches for Vic Country, but recruiters certainly haven’t gotten the AFL potential of this well-balanced on-baller. He averaged 24 disposals across his first three Talent League games for the Stingrays, while also finishing with 11 touches, seven contested possessions and three centre clearances for the AFL Academy against Port’s SANFL side. He then finished with three strong games for Dandenong: 2.1 from 22 touches against the Bushrangers, 28 disposals and eight marks against the Devils then 2.1 from 20 disposals against Gippsland. Speedy, cool under pressure and clean with ball in-hand, Simpson is also a big moments player that steps up when his team needs him most. Add in his ultra professionalism, elite burstaway speed and evasive step in traffic and you’ve got yourself an AFL player. He could be taken a lot earlier on draft night.
41. CAIDEN CLEARY
Position: Midfielder
Size: 182cm
Clubs: Sydney Swans Academy/Sydney University
AFL player comparison: Josh Dunkley
The Swans are likely to use two picks at the draft: One on a prospect with their first-rounder and another on matching a bid on Cleary, who couldn’t have done much more to push his prospects throughout 2023. Cleary thrived in the star-studded Allies midfield to produce a consistent champs campaign where he increased his disposal count with every game – 24, 28, 29 and 36 – while also being a consistent tackler. Then he went on to impress for the Swans’ VFL team, averaging 17.7 tackles across six matches against bigger bodies. Cleary is everything you want in a young inside midfielder: Ferocious attack on the ball, clean in congestion and powerful in how he covers the ground, which was punctuated by his 6:06 effort in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine. A bid could come on him as early as the 20s, but it’s more likely he’ll go on night two – and the Swans will be prepared to match that bid.
42. BODIE RYAN
Position: Medium defender
Size: 187cm
Clubs: Glenelg/Brighton
AFL player comparison: Zach Guthrie
Could be taken a lot earlier than this ranking suggests, as Ryan has ample fans at AFL club level. Speedy, agile and an excellent interceptor, Ryan averaged 19.6 disposals and 5.3 marks at SANFL Under 18s level. His standout game was for SA against Vic Country in the carnival, where he curtailed Harley Reid’s influence after the Pick 1 favourite’s hot start at Ikon Park. Fellow SA prospect Ashton Moir told foxfooty.com.au that 187cm Ryan “can play any role in the backline”, adding: “He reads the ball really well, whether that’s in the air or at ground level, and he’s a really good lockdown defender.” Ryan is the cousin of Jakob Ryan, who was drafted by Collingwood 12 months ago.
43. AIDEN O’DRISCOLL
Position: Wing
Size: 175cm
Clubs: Perth/Northern Saints
AFL player comparison: Hayden Ballantyne
The draft combine MVP — but he’s more than just an athlete. O’Driscoll – the brother of Fremantle AFL/AFLW duo Nathan and Emma O’Driscoll – recorded top-10 finishes in all five combine tests, producing the quickest 20m sprint time (2.871 seconds) and finishing sixth in the 2km time trial (6:06), seventh in the running vertical jump (92cm), ninth in the standing vertical jump (73cm) and ninth in the agility test (8.302). But clubs all year have been well aware of O’Driscoll’s elite running capacity, neat ball use and discipline to keep his width on the wing. O’Driscoll was a consistent performer in his six WAFL colts matches for Perth, averaging 16.5 disposals per game, but his standout performance was for WA against South Australia, booting one goal from 19 disposals and 12 marks.
44. ASHTON MOIR
Position: Medium forward
Size: 187cm
Clubs: Glenelg/Plympton
AFL player comparison: Bayley Fritsch
Moir told foxfooty.com.au “it kills me” he’s not in the top-five mix ahead of the draft, but he also believes the adversity he’s faced this year will help him in the long run. After entering the season as a top-10 prospect, Moir endured a rollercoaster draft year where he struggled for consistency across all levels, primarily due to a nagging hip issue while some clubs believed his cause wasn’t helped by spending so much time deep inside 50. Moir kicked three goals and averaged 10 disposals from his four carnival games for SA — and while he was solid in the SANFL Under 18s, clubs were hoping he’d kick on at reserves or league level. Yet recruiters are well aware of the mid-sized forward’s incredible, freakish talent, which he displayed as a bottom-ager for South Australia last year with his high marking, goalkicking nous and kicking efficiency using both feet. Has worked hard in recent months to get his body right, which helped him run a time of 8.24 seconds on the agility test. No doubt a big slider, but could he be a big bargain?
45. SHAUN MANNAGH
Position: Small forward/midfielder
Size: 175cm
Clubs: Werribee (VFL)/Lavington
AFL player comparison: Jordan De Goey
The best mature-age prospect up for grabs after a mighty VFL campaign full of eye-catching performances. He won the Norm Goss Medal for the best player in the VFL grand final — despite Werribee’s loss to Gold Coast — after kicking six goals from 28 disposals. But it wasn’t his only standout game for the year. He kicked four goals from 40 touches against Southport in Round 3 then slotted a lazy seven majors from 25 disposals against Sandringham in Round 15. From his 21 games, he’s kicked 40.32 and averaged 25 touches per outing. AFL clubs in recent years have preferred to take mature-age players via the SSP after having a close look at them as train-on players. But Mannagh’s form has been so good that a club surely has to take him in the national draft.
46. JOE FONTI
Position: Medium defender
Size: 188cm
Clubs: Claremont/East Fremantle
AFL player comparison: Trent Rivers
A late bolter who’s attracted interest from several clubs throughout the back-half of the year. After starting the year as a raw wingman, Fonti was moved to half-back for Claremont’s colts team where he thrived, impressing with his run and intercept marking. It led to a late call-up to WA’s national carnival squad where he played three games. After playing a key role in Claremont’s colts flag, Fonti tested superbly well at the WA state draft combine, running the 20m sprint in 2.88 seconds and the agility test in 7.97 seconds. Those times were ranked first and second respectively among all players who tested at the three state draft combines.
47. JACK CALLINAN
Position: Small forward
Size: 179cm
Clubs: Tasmania Devils/Clarence
AFL player comparison: Tyson Stengle
A dynamic forward who knows where the goals are and is dangerous both in the air and at ground level. After a dominant start to his draft year in the Coates Talent League with 14.1 from his first four games for Tassie, Callinan — the son of former Crow Ian Callinan – was exciting for the Allies across half-forward across the carnival, booting 5.3 and averaging 11 disposals. Callinan showed off impressive footy nous, class and finishing ability, hence he finished with a competition-high eight score assists. He then produced two three-goals in Tassie’s last two finals against the Gippsland Power and Eastern Ranges. Doesn’t have a long list of clubs interested in him, but the ones that are have significant interest, so he should go in the national draft.
48. CLAY HALL
Position: Midfielder
Size: 189cm
Clubs: Peel Thunder/Harvey Brunswick Leschenault
AFL player comparison: Jack Crisp
A shining light in a tough mid-season national championships campaign for WA and showed great consistency across his draft campaign. Hall had more AFL clubs interested in him after his consistent carnival where he averaged 27 disposals, 11 contested possessions, six clearances and five inside 50s to earn All-Australian honours. He returned to WAFL league level and averaged 18.6 disposals from six games for Peel Thunder playing alongside Fremantle-listed players, although his output dipped later in the year. Hall – the son of former Eagles and Cats forward Derek Hall – is an appealing midfielder for AFL clubs considering his professionalism, size and outstanding aerobic capacity, although scouts would like to see an improvement in his kicking efficiency.
49. JOEL FREIJAH
Position: Wing
Size: 190cm
Clubs: GWV Rebels/Horsham Saints
AFL player comparison: Jason Johannisen
Was much higher on draft boards at the start of the year, but Horsham product still has big upside. Freijah started his 2023 campaign with a bang, averaging 22 disposals and one goal from his first eight games for the Rebels. His six-goal, 26-disposal display against the Stingrays in Round 4 was mesmerising. But he was a little quiet at the carnival for Vic Country – he kicked 3.1 and averaged 12 disposals from four games – and didn’t quite kick on for GWV in the back-half of the year. Still, Freijah is quick, agile, classy with his hands on the inside and can hit the scoreboard. He’s inside a unique size, so he can play as a tall midfielder, wing or even third forward/defender, which excites scouts. Could be a late bargain if it clicks for him at AFL level.
50. VIGO VISENTINI
Position: Ruck
Size: 204cm
Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/Brighton Beach
AFL player comparison: Rhys Stanley
The brother of Port Adelaide’s Dante Visentini, who was taken with Pick 56 in the 2021 draft. But two years later, you could argue younger brother Vigo is ahead of Dante at the same age. The athletic ruck played in both of the Dragons’ Coates Talent League premierships, averaging 12 disposals and 20.6 hit-outs across 11 games this season. He also played a couple of games for Vic Metro in the national championships. One of the most impressive aspects about the former volleyballer’s game is how ambidextrous he is — especially in the clinches — with the ability to dispose of the ball with both hands and feet with aplomb. But he’s also a good overhead mark with an eye-catching leap. The fact he’s one of five rucks in foxfooty.com.au’s 2023 draft power rankings shows how deep the ruck pool is in this year’s class.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-power-rankings-2650-afl-draft-prospects-2023-news-fox-footy-rankings-50-to-26-shaun-mannagh/news-story/9ee29cf2709722c2ae31bb448586cd53
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2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-28 (second edition)
Mitch Keating
Zerohanger.com
November 11, 2023 - 5:17PM
The opening night will see the entire set of first-round selections taken, with the current 22 picks potentially ballooning out to 28 selections following Academy and father-son bids.
1 - West Coast: Harley Reid
2 - Gold Coast: Jed Walter (matched Academy bid)
3 - North Melbourne: Zane Duursma
4 - North Melbourne: Dan Curtin
5 - Hawthorn: Colby McKercher
6 - Western Bulldogs: Ryley Sanders
7 - Gold Coast: Ethan Read (matched Academy bid)
8 - Melbourne: Connor O'Sullivan
9 - GWS Giants: Nick Watson
10 - Geelong: Nate Caddy
11 - Essendon: Caleb Windsor
12 - Gold Coast: Jake Rogers (matched Academy bid)
13 - Adelaide: James Leake
14 - Melbourne: Darcy Wilson
15 - Sydney: Riley Hardeman
16 - Western Bulldogs: Jordan Croft (matched F/S bid)
17 - St Kilda: Ollie Murphy
18 - Adelaide: Harry DeMattia
19 - North Melbourne: Lance Collard
20 - GWS Giants: Archie Roberts
21 - Hawthorn: Will McCabe (matched F/S bid)
22 - North Melbourne: Mitch Edwards
23 - North Melbourne: Archer Reid
24 - Collingwood: Koltyn Tholstrup
25 - Adelaide: Will Green
26 - Sydney: Caiden Cleary (matched Academy bid)
27 - St Kilda: Charlie Edwards
28 - Carlton: Luamon Lual
https://www.zerohanger.com/2023-afl-mock-draft-picks-1-28-second-edition-145481/
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George Stevens could be our go??
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George Stevens could be our go??
It's been rumoured we are interested in Stevens.
Twomey has him as one of four in his top 30 that we have been linked to.
Lance Collard - Where does he go?
A tough one to answer. Collard is tied to the Eagles' Next Generation Academy but only if he slips outside the top 40, which is unlikely. If the Eagles want to grab him, they may need to with pick 23, where he could well be available. All clubs have done their work on Collard, with St Kilda, Richmond and Fremantle others to have been linked.
Tew Jiath - Where does he go?
Been a huge riser in the back half of the year. The Giants, Richmond and St Kilda could all be chances late in the first round or in the second, while others will look in the 30s. If he gets to pick 40, Hawthorn will be able to match a bid on him as a Next Generation Academy player.
Archer Reid - Where does he go?
An interesting watch on draft night given the need for talls. Reid has had interest late in the first round, including from Collingwood, but shapes most likely as a second-round selection, with the likes of Richmond, Brisbane and Essendon expected to have a look.
George Stevens - Where does he go?
Will divide clubs but has had interest through the year given his midfield traits. Geelong could look having seen his traits up close in the VFL, while Sydney is another possible suitor depending on its hand of picks. Clubs with late picks, such as Richmond and Port Adelaide, could consider if Stevens remains on the board.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062561/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-november-ranking
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Q: Grockadoc, still think we will try and move up the board for a pick in the 20s? If so, do you think we'll keep our first pick and upgrade our second or vice versa?
A: We're trying. Super Keen on Stevens and Tholstrup, but other clubs are banking on some value being available and are holding firm on their picks in the top 25.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81745057
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At 203 is Reid likely to be a decent kpf?
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At 203 is Reid likely to be a decent kpf?
Almost a dead cert under claw's law... :shh
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The final @FOXFOOTY #AFLDraft Power Rankings.
The top prospects ranked 1-50 here (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/2b07.svg):
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/fox-footy-afl-draft-2023-rankings-top-50-afl-draft-news-2023-prospects-predictions-final-power-rankings/news-story/175d8013a2acd03ac01aaf1ce7d296f1
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The Cats will consider offers for pick 8 on draft night — likely making a decision only in the minutes before their selection when they see which players are still on the board at the selection
@RalphyHeraldSun via @heraldsunsport
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1723552954379341829
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Richmond love rebounding half back Cam Nyko.
Richmond see Nyko with the same competitive spirit as Liam Baker.
Richmond don’t see the need for another half back flanker, but it’s a possibility with Richmond’s second pick and could turn Nyko into a wingmen.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
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Noooooo
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Pretty sure that's a troll account....albeit a fairly good one that knows how we usually roll as they're pretty educated guesses but that's all they are....... :shh
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Richmond love rebounding half back Cam Nyko.
Richmond see Nyko with the same competitive spirit as Liam Baker.
Richmond don’t see the need for another half back flanker, but it’s a possibility with Richmond’s second pick and could turn Nyko into a wingmen.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
Bang, there is the skinny left footer….
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2023 AFL Draft: Phantom Draft
Jordon Hudson
House of Footy
13/11/2023
The first full 2023 AFL Phantom Draft is live on House of Footy, featuring 27 first round selections in a 58 pick event across two nights of the National Draft, including Father-Son, Northern Academy and Next Generation Academy bids.
1. Harley Reid .................... West Coast
2. Jed Walter ..................... Gold Coast (Matching North Melbourne’s Bid)
3. Zane Duursma ............... North Melbourne
4. Colby McKercher ............ North Melbourne
5. Nick Watson .................. Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders ............... Western Bulldogs
7. Ethan Read ................... Gold Coast (Matching Melbourne’s Bid)
8. Daniel Curtin ................. Melbourne
9. Connor O’Sullivan .......... Greater Western Sydney
10. Darcy Wilson ............... Geelong
11. Nate Caddy ................. Essendon
12. Jake Rogers ................ Gold Coast (Matching Adelaide’s Bid)
13. James Leake ............... Adelaide
14. Caleb Windsor ............. Melbourne
15. Jordan Croft ................ Western Bulldogs (Matching Sydney’s Bid)
16. Koltyn Tholstrup .......... Sydney
17. Riley Hardeman ........... St Kilda
18. Will McCabe ................ Hawthorn (Matching Adelaide’s Bid)
19. Harry DeMattia ........... Adelaide
20. William Green ............ North Melbourne
21. Charlie Edwards ......... Greater Western Sydney
22. Ollie Murphy .............. North Melbourne
23. Archie Roberts ........... North Melbourne
24. Lance Collard ............ Collingwood
25. Taylor Goad .............. Adelaide
26. Tew Jiath ................. St Kilda
27. Arie Schoenmaker ..... Carlton
28. Zane Zakostelsky ...... West Coast
29. George Stevens ......... Geelong
30. Angus Hastie ............. Carlton
31. Archer Reid ............... Richmond
VIC Country/Gippsland Power
KEY FWD, 203cm, 94kg
House of Footy Ranking: 23
After a strong finish to the U18 National Championships, Reid somewhat struggled to reproduce his bottom age form this year, with the athletic tall looking a little short on confidence at times throughout the year.
The younger brother of Essendon’s Zach, Reid spent a large chunk of the season lining up as the main marking target in the forward half for Gippsland, as well as gaining some exposure in the ruck, where he was able to hold his own.
Standing at 203cm, Reid has proven to be quite mobile for his size, with clubs believing in his long term potential likely to call his name in the early stages of the second round.
In the Mix: In an ideal world, the Tigers find their long term Jack Riewoldt replacement. Other options include George Stevens, Luamon Lual and Koen Sanchez. The Tigers could entertain a move up the board, with Gold Coast’s trio of early second round selections likely to appeal to the club who could attempt to secure one of Koltyn Tholstrup or Lance Collard.
32. Will Graham ............... Gold Coast (Matching Brisbane’s Bid)
33. Luamon Lual .............. Brisbane
34. Logan Morris .............. Essendon
35. Caiden Cleary ............. Sydney (Matching Collingwood’s Bid)
36. Mitch Edwards ............ Collingwood
37. Koen Sanchez ............. Fremantle
38. Clay Hall .................... Essendon
39. Ashton Moir ................ West Coast
40. Phoenix Gothard .......... Brisbane
41. Jack Delean ................. St Kilda
42. Joel Freijah .................. Richmond
VIC Country/GWV Rebels
WING, 190cm, 88kg
House of Footy Ranking: 53
Juggling time between the wing and the forward line, Freijah was a consistent performer for the Rebels throughout the Coates Talent League season, earning team of the year honours on the wing.
Providing outside run as a smooth mover with a good goal sense up forward, Freijah featured for Victoria Country at the U18 National Championships and has set himself up to be in the draft frame in the later stages of the event.
In the Mix: Koen Sanchez and George Stevens firm as options for Richmond if available, while Cooper Simpson, Logan Morris, Will Patton and Jack Callinan have all been monitored by the club. Luke Lloyd and Nathan Philactides could be late steals for the Tigers, while VFL member Mutaz El Nour earned himself a State Draft Combine invitation.
43. Cooper Simpson ........... Melbourne
44. Sam Clohesy ................ Greater Western Sydney
45. Aiden O’Driscoll ............ Fremantle
46. Will Brown ................... Brisbane
47. Jack Callinan ................ Western Bulldogs
48. Will Lorenz ................... Hawthorn
49. Nathan Philactides ......... Western Bulldogs
50. Wil Dawson .................. North Melbourne
51. Tarkyn O’Leary .............. West Coast
52. Joe Fonti ...................... Fremantle
53. Calsher Dear ................ Hawthorn (F/S)
54. Will Patton .................... Port Adelaide
55. Harvey Johnston ............ Geelong
56. Michael Rudd ................. Geelong
57. Kane McAuliffe ............... Adelaide
58. Luke Lloyd ..................... St Kilda
https://houseoffooty.com.au/2023-afl-draft-phantom-draft/
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BF Tigercast's pre-draft special:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vwJlCWMDKc
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* We did seek to move up the draft as we were keen on Koltyn Tholstrup and George Stevens.
* We are trying but clubs are unwilling to trade top 25 picks hoping for sliders. So, we've resigned ourselves with the picks we've got in the 30s.
* Tholstrup will likely go early in the teens while Stevens could still be available at our first pick anyway.
* Charlie Naish a rookie prospect. He's a project type.
They also had a draft watcher called Minn (sp?) send in his mock draft. At our picks he had:
31. Rich - George Stevens
42. Rich - Kane McAuliffe
58. Rich - Sam Van Rooyen
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AFL draft 2023 club by club — When is the draft, your team's picks and potential targets
By Dean Bilton
abc.net.au
13 November 2023
Richmond
Picks: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
The Tigers will be dealing in the latter stages of the draft mostly, but will look to find a bargain with their first selection.
If Richmond are looking for talls, Archer Reid and Logan Morris could be options with their first pick. Arie Schoenmaker might be available around that mark too.
Alternatively, small forwards Phoenix Gothard and Koen Sanchez could fit the Tigers' system with either of their first two picks.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-13/afl-draft-team-by-team-every-pick-and-potential-target/103079024
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Fellow Subiaco product Lance Collard continues to be heavily linked to both WA clubs. While Richmond has also shown ample interest in the speedy goalkicker, rival clubs don’t expect Collard to be on the board by the Tigers’ first selection.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-whispers-trade-rumours-2023-riley-hardeman-essendon-taylor-goad-adelaide-nick-watson-hawthorn-where-does-dan-curtin-go-when-bids-will-happen/news-story/a20bec1504d1325bb116f9f24bb02c32
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George Stevens (he's a big boy!) interviewed on 7news tonight alongside his mate Luamon Lual:
Go to 1:00 min mark: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1724334770656841942
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Someone on BF has ordered the draftees by averaging all the media's phantom drafts (taken from Rookie Me, AFL, ESPN, Herald Sun, The Age, Mongrel Punt, ABC and House of Footy):
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/1699794681349-png.1851383/)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2023-afl-draft-general-discussion.1256715/post-81752729
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Geelong supporter on BF:
"My strong mail is that Richmond are all over Morris, he’ll be their first choice if still available….watch this space!"
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81760927
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Logan Morris
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LwpHsEsIIw
Height: 191cm
Weight: 90kg
D.O.B: 05-10-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys
SNAPSHOT: “Logan Morris is a strong-marking forward who hits the scoreboard with great regularity and can also swing to defence.”
Having spearheaded the Western Jets for two seasons, Logan Morris lays claim to the relatively rare feat of bagging 30 goals in consecutive Coates Talent League campaigns. He landed exactly on that mark from 10 games this year, having managed 31 to put his name in lights as a bottom-ager in 2022.
Morris rose to prominence with a breakout performance in last year’s Vic Metro Under 17 side, booting five goals against Queensland in wet conditions. Fast forward to the 2023 Under 18 National Championships, and Morris produced another standout representative showing with four majors and 11 marks against WA.
The 18-year-old also turned out for Werribee in the VFL and while he sustained a knee injury, still snared a pair of goals against senior opposition. At 191cm, he draws inspiration from the likes of Charlie Curnow and Brody Mihocek as strong marking targets who work hard up the ground. Morris’ point of difference is he can also play down back.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/logan-morris/
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Geelong supporter on BF:
"My strong mail is that Richmond are all over Morris, he’ll be their first choice if still available….watch this space!"
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81760927
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Logan Morris
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LwpHsEsIIw
Height: 191cm
Weight: 90kg
D.O.B: 05-10-2005
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys
SNAPSHOT: “Logan Morris is a strong-marking forward who hits the scoreboard with great regularity and can also swing to defence.”
Having spearheaded the Western Jets for two seasons, Logan Morris lays claim to the relatively rare feat of bagging 30 goals in consecutive Coates Talent League campaigns. He landed exactly on that mark from 10 games this year, having managed 31 to put his name in lights as a bottom-ager in 2022.
Morris rose to prominence with a breakout performance in last year’s Vic Metro Under 17 side, booting five goals against Queensland in wet conditions. Fast forward to the 2023 Under 18 National Championships, and Morris produced another standout representative showing with four majors and 11 marks against WA.
The 18-year-old also turned out for Werribee in the VFL and while he sustained a knee injury, still snared a pair of goals against senior opposition. At 191cm, he draws inspiration from the likes of Charlie Curnow and Brody Mihocek as strong marking targets who work hard up the ground. Morris’ point of difference is he can also play down back.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/logan-morris/
Looks good, decent weight and size, ? Speedy??
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AFL Phantom Draft - Every pick in the first two rounds
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/38892404/afl-two-round-phantom-draft-2023-your-club-pick-harley-reid-bolters-sliders-more
ESPN has us taking Reid & Stevens.
33. Richmond - Archer Reid
Gippsland Power/Vic Country FWD, 203cm, 93kg
ESPN draft rank: 30
If Reid makes it to this point, it's the perfect selection for the Tigers. His upside is tremendous as a key forward that can pinch hit in the ruck with his long limbs and running capacity. Reid had an interrupted year but his best is elite.
If not Reid? Logan Morris is another key forward linked to the Tigers with their first pick, while midfielders Cooper Simpson, George Stevens and Clay Hall will also be considered.
43. Richmond - George Stevens
GWV Rebels/Vic Country MID, 189cm, 100kg
ESPN draft rank: 14
This would be an extraordinary slide for Stevens, but clubs are split on the big-bodied midfielder's fit at the next level. For Richmond, however, Stevens can offer immediate best-22 competition. He's an elite extractor, has beautiful skills in space and is one of the best leaders in the draft class.
If not Stevens? Midfielders will appeal for the Tigers who need depth - Cooper Simpson, Harvey Johnston and Joel Freijah will all be options.
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189/100 is a very big kid and would surely need to trim down.
Otherwise Morris sounds good too. A proper medium tall to complement Lynch and Kosi.
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Like the sound of Morris.
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Swans' recruiter reckons there's still a legacy of the interrupted covid years in this year's group of draftees and it wouldn't surprise him that in 10 years time we find a number of the kids who were picked up in the 20s and 30s have had better careers than some of those picked up earlier.
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Kevin Sheehan's top 40 prospects in the 2023 AFL Draft
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064519/kevin-sheehans-top-40-prospects-in-the-2023-afl-draft
And his write-up for some of the names linked to us.
Lance Collard
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Subiaco
Community Club: North Beach
Date of Birth: 26/03/05
Height: 180cm
Small forward who is extremely dangerous around goals. Booted 39 goals in 16 matches in Western Australia’s pathway this year where he played predominantly at Colts level. Also represented his state in three games at the National Championships which gave him a taste of playing against the nation’s best. He then highlighted his potential by kicking five-goal bags in three of the final five games of the WAFL Colts season. Showcased his athletic prowess at the national Draft Combine where he produced the quickest time on the agility test (8.16 seconds) and a top ten finish on the 20m sprint (2.92 seconds). Is a member of the West Coast Eagles’ Next Generation Academy meaning they can match any bid after selection 40 in this year’s Draft.
Weapon: Speed and innate goal sense
AFL player comparison: Charlie Cameron (Brisbane Lions)
Taylor Goad
State: South Australia
State League Club: South Adelaide
Community Club: Willunga
Date of Birth: 28/04/05
Height: 206cm
Developing ruckman who only began to focus on a potential AFL career this year after initially applying his natural talent to basketball. Showed splendid improvement throughout the season playing at under-18 level for his state and club. Was particularly impressive in South Adelaide’s premiership campaign where he averaged 10.4 disposals, 25 hitouts and 2.2 marks in 13 matches. Both his standing vertical jump of 74cm and 20m sprint time of 2.965 seconds were ranked in the top 10 at the national Draft Combine and gave distinct indications of his elite athletic tools.
Weapon: Height and speed
AFL player comparison: Max Gawn (Melbourne)
Kane McAuliffe
State: South Australia
State League Club: North Adelaide
Community Club: Central Augusta
Date of Birth: 01/03/05
Height: 187cm
A powerful midfielder who wins his own ball and is a penetrating left-foot kick. Is a strong and aggressive tackler as well as being an accomplished extractor of the ball from stoppages using his clean hands and vision to set up the play. Progressed from dominating under-18 games at club level to playing seven matches at reserves level averaging 18.7 disposals. Featured among South Australia’s best in the National Championship matches against the Allies and Victoria Metro and averaged 18 disposals, 3.8 clearances and 8.5 tackles across the tournament. Showcased his power and speed at the national Draft Combine with his running vertical jump of 95cm ranking third and 2.93 seconds for the 20m spring ranking fifth.
Weapon: Power and left-foot kick
Player Comparison: Jack Crisp (Collingwood)
Archer Reid
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Inverloch-Kongwak
Date of Birth: 19/09/05
Height: 203cm
A mobile tall forward who is an exceptional overhead mark, good below his knees and has a natural goal sense. Continued to develop physically and improved his forward craft as the season progressed. Averaged 13.5 disposals, five marks and kicked 16 goals in 11 matches in the Coates Talent League for the Gippsland Power to finish runner-up in the club’s best and fairest award. Also presented as a mobile target for Victoria Country in all four National Championships matches, which included kicking two goals in a lively performance during the impressive win over Victoria Metro. Is the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach.
Weapon: Height and overhead marking
AFL player comparison: Ben King (Gold Coast Suns)
Cooper Simpson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Community Club: Mt Martha
Date of Birth: 13/02/05
Height: 181cm
An ultra professional midfielder with pace, composure and great finishing skills. Also has a neat step through traffic and runs hard both offensively and defensively. Has shown the ability to perform when challenged and in the big moments when the game is on the line. Started the season in good touch with the Dandenong Stingrays in the Coates Talent League but suffered an ankle injury in Victoria Country’s opening game of the National Championships and was unable to play any further matches at that level. Made an impressive return for the final four matches with the Stingrays including having 28 disposals against the Tasmania Devils which reminded scouts of his class and AFL potential.
Weapon: Composure and step through congestion
AFL player comparison: Adam Cerra (Carlton)
George Stevens
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: GWV Rebels
Community Club: South Warrnambool
Date of Birth: 14/04/05
Height: 189cm
A strong-bodied defender who also plays as an inside midfielder to great effect. He reads the cues to intercept well when playing across half back, is a good decision-maker and has a penetrating kick. Had an outstanding year which included captaining the Australia under-18 team during the AFL Academy’s matches against SANFL and VFL sides. Won All Australian honours at the National Championships when representing Victoria Country and was named captain of the Coates Talent League Team of the Year after averaging 28.8 disposals and five tackles across 13 matches for the GWV Rebels, also winning the club’s best and fairest award. His 6:37 for the 2km time trial at the national Draft Combine was a strong performance for a player of his type.
Weapon: Contested ball-winning and ball use
AFL player comparison: Tom Green (GWS Giants)
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2023 AFL Draft Preview: Richmond
Michael Alvaro
Rookie Me Central
November 15, 2023
WITH season proper and trade period done and dusted, AFL fans and staff alike now turn their attention towards the draft (November 20-21). The chaos has momentarily settled on player and pick swaps, and budding prospects have completed their combines, leaving a nervous wait until they learn their fate.
In the next of our club-by-club draft previews, we take a look at Richmond’s hand and offer insight into how the Tigers may utilise the picks at their possession. Having slid down the ladder in 2023, the Victorian powerhouse lost a couple of club legends and has some key position depth to replenish.
LADDER FINISH: 13th (10-12-1, 93.6%)
2023 PICKS: 29, 41, 65, 68, 86
FUTURE PICKS: RIC R1, RIC R2, FRE R2, RIC R3, RIC R4, PTA R4
CLUB-TIED PLAYERS: Nil.
FIRST PICK: Pick 29
Much like last year, and largely as a result of its 2022 trade dealings, Richmond is likely to only utilise two picks at the draft. As it stands, 29 and 41 will be the Tigers’ main weapons, with the option to trade, promote rookies, or pass on their late picks. There’s a strong hand of future picks to dip into, too.
After bookends Jack Riewoldt and Robbie Tarrant retired, and Ivan Soldo and Bigoa Nyuon were traded, key position depth is an area Richmond can certainly look to address. Speed and outside class are other traits which could help Adem Yze‘s side find improvement.
There may be some sliders within the 20s who fall into Richmond’s lap at pick 29, while players with high upside like West Australian forward Lance Collard could even entice the Tigers to trade up. He idolises Shai Bolton, who showed up for the youngster’s house visit, and is similarly mercurial.
At the other end of the ground, Hawthorn NGA talent Tew Jiath is an intercept defender with terrific athletic traits and distributive skills. The brother of current-Hawk Changkuoth is raw but developed rapidly in the back-end of the season and will be in high demand.
Tom Lynch and new recruit Jacob Koschitzke will need a chop-out in the long-term up forward. Gippsland Power product Archer Reid should be in the frame should he slip past North Melbourne, offering good mobility and skills at his 203cm standing.
A pair of tall midfielders in George Stevens and Charlie Edwards may also be in Richmond’s sights. The latter is more likely to be off the board, but like Reid, Stevens’ projected range is relatively wide and he could end up being the best available talent for Richmond to select first up.
REMAINING CROP:
There is plenty of variety, albeit a lack of depth available to Richmond with its later pick in the draft. The likes of Logan Morris and Luke Lloyd could be the type of marking forwards Richmond looks at, more as second or third tall outlets rather than genuine key position players.
The Tigers’ VFL side has also been a happy hunting ground of late, and draft combine invitee Mutaz El Nour looks like being the next in line. An athletic intercept defender, the 22-year-old has had a few near misses at the draft and his share of injury niggles, but remains in contention.
In terms of running players, another East Fremantle prospect in Koen Sanchez – former teammate of 2022 draftee Kaleb Smith – may be in Richmond’s hitting zone. The zippy midfielder-forward blends class with consistent effort and could plug a few holes in the small department.
Elsewhere, Richmond would have gotten a good look at explosive half-back Nathan Philactides through its VFL program, and he has the athletic traits to make it at AFL level. The Tigers also came into the year with access to father-son prospect Charlie Naish – a hard-running utility out of the Northern Knights.
With the expectation of making only two selections, despite currently holding five picks, Richmond has plenty of future selections to package up and dangle in front of rival clubs. Depending on what the Tigers manufacture, a rookie may also be upgraded to fill out the required three senior list spots.
KEY QUESTIONS:
– Will Richmond look to move its first pick up the board?
– After recruiting Jacob Koschitzke, will tall forward depth remain in Richmond’s plans?
– Is a Rookie upgrade round likely to round out Richmond’s draft?
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2023/11/15/2023-afl-draft-preview-richmond/
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Richmond trading for a early selection at this stage seems unlikely
Richmond will assess any situation that may involve trades but at this stage Richmond won’t actively seek a trade
Richmond admire Caleb Windsor and Tholstrup to high levels.
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Richmond will select best available, so to all depends on who slides, I’d say ideally we’d love Collard or Stevens.
If Fremantle trade for a early pick, I’d almost through the Collard shout away.
Our draft is going to be very interesting, watch the Archie Roberts space too.
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Archie Roberts will probably slide due not really having a main position and a lot of clubs are valuing needs rather then best available, so he could drop.
With us having a late pick it’s almost impossible to tell, our best bet would mid-late first round expected sliders.
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got to have a expanded list when you go into the draft quite late, you’ll hear plenty of names, but once day two begins I’m sure we will have a clearer idea. Well you’d hope so anyway
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1725396382046200076
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Gold Coast look set to bolster their draft points haul further with impending trades early on Monday night with Brisbane (picks 30 and 39) and Fremantle (34 and 46) that are likely to see them part with selections 24 and 26
@ByMarcMcGowan via @agerealfooty
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1725395584616722826
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Rival clubs expect Adelaide to pounce on athletic South Australian ruckman Taylor Goad, potentially as early as its second pick (pick 14) ahead of growing interest in the top 20
@jordanpint0 and @Simeon_TW via @TheTiserSport
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1725458461998379174
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West Coast are poised to move their 2024 first-round pick for a pick inside the 2023 top 10 to land W.A prospect Daniel Curtin
This would see the Eagles take Harley Reid and Dan Curtin out of the draft
@SamLandsberger and @ClarkyHeraldSun via @heraldsunsport.
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeHub/status/1725391018550497509
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HeraldSun phantom draft (First round - Top 28).
1. Harley Reid - West Coast
2. Jed Walter - Bid. Gold Coast
3. Colby McKercher - North
4. Zane Duursma - North
5. Nick Watson - Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
8. Daniel Curtin - West Coast (Trade via GWS)
9. Nate Caddy - Geelong
10. Connor O'Sullivan - Essendon
11. James Leake - Adelaide
12. Koltyn Tholstrup - Melbourne
13. Ethan Read - Bid. Gold Coast
14. Jordan Croft - Bid. Bulldogs
15. Jake Rogers (Sydney the bid merchants) - Bid. Gold Coast
16. Will Green - Sydney
17. Darcy Wilson - St Kilda
18. Will McCabe - Bid. Hawthorn
19. Charlie Edwards - Adelaide
20. Wil Dawson - North
21. Riley Hardeman - GWS
22. Lance Collard - North
23. Arie Schoenmaker - North
24.Will Graham - Bid. Gold Coast
25. Archer Reid - Collingwood
26. Taylor Goad - Adelaide
27. Harry De Mattia - St Kilda
28. Matt Carroll - Carlton
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-phantom-draft-2023-jay-clark-and-sam-landsberger-reveal-how-the-first-round-could-play-out/news-story/d1669473960b9d91be665e27799f5e1a
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Fox Footy's phantom draft (First round - Top 28)
1. Harley Reid - West Coast
2. Jed Walter - Bid. Gold Coast
3. Colby McKercher - North
4. Zane Duursma - North
5. Nick Watson - Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
8. Daniel Curtin - West Coast (Trade via GWS)
9. Ethan Read - Bid. Gold Coast
10. Nate Caddy - Geelong
11. Connor O'Sullivan - Essendon
12. James Leake - Adelaide
13. Koltyn Tholstrup - Melbourne
14. Will McCabe - Bid. Hawthorn
15. Jake Rogers - Bid. Gold Coast
16. Will Green - Sydney
17. Jordan Croft - Bid. Bulldogs F/S
18. Darcy Wilson - St Kilda
19. Taylor Goad - Adelaide
20. Charlie Edwards - North
21. Harry De Mattia - GWS
22. Riley Hardeman - North
23. Wil Dawson - North
24. Will Graham - Bid. Gold Coast
25. Lance Collard - Collingwood
26. Arie Schoenmaker - Adelaide
27. Tew Jiath - St Kilda
28. Archie Roberts - Carlton
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/phantom-draft-afl-2023-afl-phantom-mock-draft-2023-fox-footy-predictions-live-trades-bids-formguide-date-time/news-story/abdd931165cc0fa7e0249eb43fb9dcae
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Foxsports has us linked to Collard, Sanchez and Lual.
MORE DRAFT INTEL …
Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
18 November 2023
As aforementioned, there could be a scrap for Subiaco high-flyer Lance Collard, with several clubs pondering whether to trade up the order for him — despite some doubts over how he’d fare living away of WA.
While Collard has interest from Collingwood and St Kilda with late first-round picks, foxfooty.com.au understands Fremantle (Picks 34, 46, 60, 64) is working hard to move up the order — ideally ahead of West Coast at Pick 23 — with the goal to draft the exciting WA prospect, who’s an Eagles NGA graduate.
However rival clubs believe Richmond is also extremely keen on Collard — and the Tigers have a slightly better hand than the Dockers, holding Picks 29, 41, 65 and 68 at this stage.
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Koen Sanchez and Bulldogs NGA prospect Luamon Lual are in Richmond’s mix in the second round, although Lual, as well as GWV Rebels midfielder/defender George Stevens, also has fans at Geelong and Essendon.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/phantom-draft-afl-2023-afl-phantom-mock-draft-2023-fox-footy-predictions-live-trades-bids-formguide-date-time/news-story/abdd931165cc0fa7e0249eb43fb9dcae
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Callum Twomey has just released his phantom draft.
He has both Arie Schoenmaker and Archer Reid still available in the 30s.
Cal Twomey's 2023 Phantom Draft: Top 30
1. Harley Reid - West Coast
2. Colby McKercher - North
3. Jed Walter - Bid. Gold Coast
4. Zane Duursma - North
5. Nick Watson - Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
8. James Leake - GWS
9. Ethan Read - Bid. Gold Coast
10. Daniel Curtin - Geelong
11. Nate Caddy - Essendon
12. Connor O'Sullivan - Adelaide
13. Koltyn Tholstrup - Melbourne
14. Jake Rogers - Bid. Gold Coast
15. Jordan Croft - Bid. Bulldogs
16. Will Green - Sydney
17. Darcy Wilson - St Kilda
18. Will McCabe - Bid. Hawthorn
19. Charlie Edwards - Adelaide
20. Harry De Mattia - North
21. Phoenix Gothard - GWS
22. Riley Hardeman - North
23. Mitchell Edwards - North
24. Will Graham - Bid. Gold Coast
25. Caiden Cleary - Bid. Sydney
26. Logan Morris - Collingwood
27. Taylor Goad - Adelaide
28. Wil Dawson - St Kilda
29. Ashton Moir - Carlton
30. Lance Collard - West Coast
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064937/cal-twomeys-2023-phantom-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers
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(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
Picks: 29, 41, 64, 66 (likely to use two selections)
Richmond will start its draft on night two unless it can somehow squeeze its way up the board, which seems unlikely. A tall forward option is expected to come into the picture at some stage – could Archer Reid be available? It's a chance. Western Jets goalkicker Logan Morris is another who has been on the radar, while Central District's Liam Fawcett could also be considered late. Fawcett had a dominant start to the SANFL under-18s season and is a powerful tall goalkicker. Greater Western Victoria Rebels trio Joel Freijah, a taller wingman who had some big games early in the year, Western Bulldogs NGA half-back Luamon Lual and ball-getter George Stevens could come into considerations, the same for attacking half-back Tew Jiath, while ruckman Lachie Smith is another who may be a chance with the Tigers to likely activate two selections.
- Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064937/cal-twomeys-2023-phantom-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers
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There seems to be a consensus about the top 18 or so in these latest media phantom drafts before you get some spread of names over the next 10-12. For us, it's going to be whoever slides down into the 30s unless we go for a speculative choice which we have done in the past :-\.
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It's almost guaranteed that whoever we pick, it will be the unexpected.
I still think we Stevens then Frejaih with our 2 picks if available
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It's almost guaranteed that whoever we pick, it will be the unexpected.
I still think we Stevens then Frejaih with our 2 picks if available
It seems the best
But knowing our luck if we pick Stevens he will be a dud, if we don’t he will be a gun 😂😂
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Agree pmac. Either, unexpectedly someone rated highly in these phantom drafts will slide and the Club will come out afterwards and say "We are delighted with [insert name] as we rated him a first rounder" OR we will go for a kid that none of us have heard much of or wasn't linked to us by the media. The only thing for sure is if we select a couple of HB flanker types then the forum will go into meltdown lol :outtahere.
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Let's be honest it doesn't take much for an OER meltdown :rollin
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Let's be honest it doesn't take much for an OER meltdown :rollin
:lol
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The profiles of 115 potential draftees is now up on the AFL website.
https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker
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The names linked to us according to Callum Twomey.
n.b. Sorry, the server's anti-spammer only allows 3 links per post so I'll have to spread these across three posts.
Lance COLLARD
Height: 185cm
DOB: 26 Mar 2005
Junior Club: North Beach
WA: 3 games, 4.3 disp, 1.3 marks, 2.7 tackles, 0.3 clear, 2.0 in50, 0.0 R50, 0.7 goals
Colts: 11 games, 11.5 disp, 2.1 marks, 2.3 tackles, 1.0 clear, 2.5 in50, 0.3 R50, 2.9 goals
Biography:
Collard's end to the season – back-to-back hauls of five goals in Subiaco's colts finals – as well as his excellent testing at the Draft Combine has pushed him up the Form Guide. The exciting forward can make something from nothing and kick goals, having booted 32 majors from 11 games at colts level this season. He then was the quickest in the agility test at the Combine (8.157 seconds), was fourth in the 20-metre sprint (2.92 seconds) and also ran the 2km time trial in 6:32 minutes to show his all-round athleticism and spark.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BE1N3CpmE0E/mqdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE1N3CpmE0E)
Liam FAWCETT:
Height: 197cm
DOB: 22 Apr 2005
Junior Club: Pooraka
SA: 2 games, 6.5 disp, 3.0 marks, 2.5 tackles, 0.0 clear, 0.0 in50, 0.0 R50, 1.0 goals
U18s: 16 games, 15.4 disp, 6.6 marks, 1.6 tackles, 0.2 clear, 2.3 in50, 0.1 R50, 2.0 goals
Biography:
Strong marking tall forward who is mobile and a reliable set shot for goal in clutch moments. Averaged 15.4 disposals and 6.6 marks in 16 games for Central District at under 18 level this year and booted 32 goals, including one with the last kick to win a final. Also represented South Australia in two games at the National Championships and booted two goals against the Allies. Tested soundly at the state Draft Combine with his 3.08 seconds for the 20m sprint and 6:38 for the 2km time trial both strong performances for a key forward.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U0ddg5didv4/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0ddg5didv4)
Joel FREIJAH
Height: 191cm
DOB: 14 Nov 2005
Junior Club: Horsham Saints
VicC: 4 games, 12.3 disp, 2.8 marks, 1.8 tackles, 0.8 clear, 0.5 in50, 1.3 R50, 0.8 goals
U19s: 14 games, 19.6 disp, 4.1 marks, 2.5 tackles, 2.8 clear, 3.2 in50, 1.7 R50, 0.9 goals
Biography
A wingman who has real composure, is clean below his knees and distributes the ball very well. Announced himself as an AFL prospect when he kicked six goals from 26 disposals in the GWV Rebels’ loss to the Dandenong Stingrays in Round 4. He holds his width when playing on the wing, providing his team with an outlet option with its ball movement. Had a consistent year at club level averaging 19.6 disposals in 14 matches for the Rebels and finished third in the club’s best and fairest while playing in all four matches for Victoria Country. A strong all-round athlete, he ran a time of 2.98 seconds in the 20m sprint during pre-season testing and then completed the 2km time trial in 6:13 at the national Draft Combine.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JL0tVPBts2Q/hqdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL0tVPBts2Q)
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Tew JIATH
Height: 188cm
DOB: 02 Mar 2005
Junior Club: Morwell
U19s: 10 games, 17.7 disp, 3.5 marks, 2.1 tackles, 0.4 clear, 0.7 in50, 5.0 R50, 0.0 goals
Biography:
Jiath didn't get enough nominations to be in the initial national Draft Combine list but if it had been another month he would have been selected, given the exciting half-back's finish to the season. He did complete testing for the state screening though, when he ran 6:32 minutes for the 2km time trial. The younger brother of Hawthorn's Changkuoth, Jiath is also Next Generation Academy listed for the Hawks but is expected to be selected before they get access to him at No.40 onwards. A marking interceptor in the back half who streams forward.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DJMsYuz-gpQ/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJMsYuz-gpQ)
Luamon LUAL
Height: 181cm
DOB: 28 Mar 2005
Junior Club: South Warrnambool
VicC: 4 games, 11.0 disp, 3.3 marks, 2.5 tackles, 0.0 clear, 1.0 in50, 2.5 R50, 0.3 goals
U19s: 14 games, 17.9 disp, 2.1 marks, 3.6 tackles, 1.5 clear, 2.8 in50, 2.9 R50, 0.1 goals
Biography:
A well-balanced and skillful player of South Sudanese heritage who was part of the AFL’s Multicultural Academy. Strong in one-on-one contests, he had an excellent 2023 season. Averaged 17.9 disposals and 3.6 tackles in 14 matches for the GWV Rebels to finish runner-up in the club’s best and fairest and earn selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year. Also represented Victoria Country with distinction at the National Championships and featured among his team’s best against Western Australia and Victoria Metro. Is a member of the Western Bulldogs’ NGA program meaning the Bulldogs can match any bid for him from a rival club after selection 40 in this year’s Draft.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/118l0IYBBWk/hqdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=118l0IYBBWk)
Logan MORRIS
Height: 191cm
DOB: 10 May 2005
Junior Club: Werribee Districts
VicM: 4 games, 12.3 disp, 5.3 marks, 0.5 tackles, 0.3 clear, 0.8 in50, 1.8 R50, 1.0 goals
VFL: 1 game , 5.0 disp, 4.0 marks, 2.0 tackles, 0.0 clear, 1.0 in50, 0.0 R50, 2.0 goals
U19s: 10 games, 11.7 disp, 4.8 marks, 1.7 tackles, 0.3 clear, 1.2 in50, 0.2 R50, 3.0 goals
Biography:
A strong marking forward who showed his versatility by playing back for Victoria Metro in the National Championships matches against South Australia and the Allies before kicking four goals in an impressive display forward against Western Australia. Has continued to build on his ability to keep presenting as a mobile marking target, while clean hands at ground level are another key part of his skill set. Booted 30 goals in 10 matches in the Coates Talent League while averaging 11.7 disposals and 4.8 marks to be rewarded with Team of the Year honours.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4LwpHsEsIIw/sddefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LwpHsEsIIw)
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Archer REID
Height: 203cm
DOB: 19 Sep 2005
Junior Club: Inverloch-Kongwak
VicC: 4 games, 8.8 disp, 4.5 marks, 1.0 tackles, 5.0 HO, 1.0 clear, 0.8 in50, 0.0 R50, 1.0 goals
U19s: 11 games, 13.5 disp, 5.1 marks, 2.5 tackles, 13.1 HO, 1.7 clear, 2.6 in50, 0.8 R50, 1.5 goals
Biography
The younger brother of Essendon's Zach is mainly positioned at the other end of the field to his backman sibling, with Archer a key forward who can go into the ruck. His kicking skills are excellent for a player his size and although he didn't have a monster patch of form through the year, he remains a forward/ruck option for clubs searching for players to fill that valuable role.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OBMnur7BLU0/sddefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBMnur7BLU0)
Lachie SMITH:
Height: 203cm
DOB: 05 Oct 2005
Junior Club: Warragul
VicC: 3 games, 8.0 disp, 1.3 marks, 3.7 tackles, 18.7 HO, 2.7 clear, 1.3 in50, 0.0 R50, 0.0 goals
U19s: 12 games, 16.8 disp, 3.7 marks, 3.2 tackles, 19.4 HO, 4.6 clear, 3.3 in50, 1.0 R50, 0.6 goals
Biography:
Left-footed ruckman who uses his impressive frame to compete ferociously at stoppages and can win his own ball. Was a strong contributor all year for the Gippsland Power in the Coates Talent League averaging 16.8 disposals, 3.7 marks and 19.4 hitouts. Was particularly impressive for Victoria Country in its win over Western Australia at the National Championships. Was unable to test at the state Draft Combine due to injury but his 3.13 seconds on the 20m sprint at the Coates Talent League testing day earlier in the year was an insight into his mobility for a ruckman.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sU5wrfIMW7k/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU5wrfIMW7k)
George STEVENS
Height: 189cm
DOB: 14 Apr 2005
Junior Club: South Warrnambool
VicC: 4 games, 19.3 disp, 2.3 marks, 6.3 tackles, 3.8 clear, 3.0 in50, 2.0 R50, 0.5 goals
VFL: 2 games, 22.5 disp, 4.0 marks, 0.5 tackles, 3.5 clear, 3.5 in50, 3.0 R50, 0.0 goals
U19s: 13 games, 28.8 disp, 2.2 marks, 5.0 tackles, 6.6 clear, 4.5 in50, 2.6 R50, 0.2 goals
Biography
Stevens is a unique player in the pool given his mature frame but his outstanding output in the second half of the season in particular. The midfielder, who captained the AFL Academy earlier this year, came back from a knee reconstruction he underwent in 2022 and started this year across half-back. But he really got going as an inside midfield and clearance specialist for the Rebels and also with Geelong's VFL team, where he impressed, including having 29 disposals against Collingwood.
Highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQaZaxm8IPM/hq720.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQaZaxm8IPM)
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Wouldn't it be nice to secure both Fawcet and Morris somehow
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Richmond aren’t expected to trade up in the draft and will go with 2-3 selections depending on who’s available.
Richmond will go best available with their first pick.
Richmond will consider drafting
Lance Collard, George Stevens, Charlie Edwards, Jack DeLean, Koen Sanchez, Taylor Goad, Luamon Leal, Joel Freijah and Cooper Simpson with their first pick.
Who would be your number one choice ?
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
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The Tigers have been linked with 189cm inside midfielder George Stevens with our first pick of the draft. 🐯
Strengths
- Tackling
- Work Rate
- Contested game
Limitations
- Athleticism
- Hurt factor
https://twitter.com/RichmondNews223/status/1726101776678691115
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Callum Twomey updated 'late mail' Top 30 phantom draft. Changes in orange.
1. Harley Reid - West Coast
2. Colby McKercher - North
3. Jed Walter - Bid. Gold Coast
4. Zane Duursma - North
5. Nick Watson - Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
8. James Leake - GWS
9. Ethan Read - Bid. Gold Coast
10. Daniel Curtin - Geelong
11. Nate Caddy - Essendon
12. Connor O'Sullivan - Adelaide
13. Koltyn Tholstrup - Melbourne
14. Jake Rogers - Bid. Gold Coast
15. Jordan Croft - Bid. Bulldogs
16. Will Green - Sydney
17. Harry De Mattia - St Kilda
18. Will McCabe - Bid. Hawthorn
19. Charlie Edwards - Adelaide
20. Darcy Wilson - North
21. Phoenix Gothard - GWS
22. Riley Hardeman - North
23. Mitchell Edwards - North
24. Will Graham - Bid. Gold Coast
25. Caiden Cleary - Bid. Sydney
26. Logan Morris - Collingwood
27. Taylor Goad - Adelaide
28. Wil Dawson - St Kilda
29. Ashton Moir - Carlton
30. Lance Collard - West Coast
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1065274/phantom-draft-late-mail-dan-curtin-call-gws-trade-decision-keys-as-first-round-takes-shape
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Every club’s best, worst case AFL Draft scenario plus latest whispers
Ben Waterworth, Ben Cotton and Max Laughton
Fox Sports
November 19th, 2023
RICHMOND
Picks: 29, 41, 65, 68
Latest intel:
The Tigers have explored moving up the draft order, with rival clubs suggesting Richmond has a strong interest in Subiaco goalkicker and Eagles NGA prospect Lance Collard — for it’s unlikely he’ll still be available at their first pick. Elsewhere, the Tigers have been linked to Bulldogs NGA prospect Luamon Lual — he, too, could be off the board as early as the first round — as well as East Fremantle small forward/midfielder Koen Sanchez and big-bodied GWV Rebels midfielder George Stevens.
Best-case scenarios:
Package up their picks and find a suitor inside the first round – most likely to trade ahead of a club that has interest in Lance Collard. Even better, Collard is available at their first pick. Otherwise they grab a slider like Luamon Lual or Tew Jiath and pounce on a key forward with one of their other picks.
Worst-case scenario:
Stay with their natural picks, but all of Collard, Lual, Jiath, Archer Reid and Logan Morris are off the board.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-whispers-and-intel-at-every-club-picks-order-best-and-worst-case-scenarios-prospects-rankings-latest-news/news-story/f7148d94a1dc33a278a839a5c63ecc46
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Just stay as we are IMHO, get a strong hand in next years draft
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Callum Twomey on his latest Gettable podcast said Tew Jiath won't last to the third round and Hawthorn (pick 44) as their academy pick as he suspects Richmond will take him with one of our first two picks.
https://omny.fm/shows/afl-daily/the-late-mail-ahead-of-the-afl-draft-tonight
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The Age's phantom draft (first round)
1. Harley Reid - West Coast
2. Colby McKercher - North
3. Jed Walter - Bid. Gold Coast
4. Zane Duursma - North
5. Nick Watson - Hawthorn
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
8. James Leake - GWS
9. Ethan Read - Bid. Gold Coast
10. Daniel Curtin - Geelong
11. Nate Caddy - Essendon
12. Darcy Wilson - Adelaide
13. Koltyn Tholstrup - Melbourne
14. Jake Rogers - Bid. Gold Coast
15. Jordan Croft - Bid. Bulldogs
16. Connor O'Sullivan - Sydney
17. Harry De Mattia - St Kilda
18. Will McCabe - Bid. Hawthorn
19. Charlie Edwards - Adelaide
20. Riley Hardeman - North
21. Tew Jiath - GWS
22. Will Green - North
23. Wil Dawson - North
24. Will Graham - Bid. Gold Coast
25. Caiden Cleary - Bid. Sydney
26. Lance Collard - Collingwood
27. Taylor Goad - Adelaide
28. Arie Schoenmaker - St Kilda
29. Ashton Moir - Carlton
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/phantom-draft-who-will-get-a-guernsey-at-your-club-20231119-p5el1x.html
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Richmond have circled forward-ruck Archer Reid – brother of Essendon’s Zach – if he makes it through to them in the second round, as part of their post-Jack Riewoldt plan and after trading Ivan Soldo. The Tigers are also linked with Tew Jiath, Luamon Lual, running machine Aiden O’Driscoll and George Stevens. Stevens looks poised to find a home in the second round, with Essendon and Geelong also keen on him.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/phantom-draft-who-will-get-a-guernsey-at-your-club-20231119-p5el1x.html
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Rival recruiters believe the Pies have done a lot of late work on Lance Collard, who has other clubs like Fremantle and Richmond possibly prepared to trade up the order to get him.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-rumours-live-trade-whispers-phantom-2023-daniel-curtin-north-melbourne-alastair-clarkson-west-coast-offer-to-gws-giants/news-story/16b0f156d6ec822ae4c599e22d3e4321
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THE SMOKEY: The 'why' that's driving draft hopeful Luamon Lual
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1065735/the-smokey-the-why-thats-driving-draft-hopeful-luamon-lual
We've been linked to Lual.
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Finally, about to start.
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There'll be four trades done nearly immediately once the draft starts.
Melbourne's pick 42 going to St Kilda for a F3,
Saints trading 40 and 42 for Gold Coast's pick 27,
Suns sending 24 to Brisbane for 30s picks
and Freo landing Suns' pick 38 for third-rounders.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1726494559184822429
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From James De Ven - the bloke posting Tiger draft rumours.
My 2023 AFL mock draft, this was extremely hard to make, so much uncertainty and it’s so even.
I’ll look back at this picks and think what the hell was I thinking, but I tried going different, and I’ll see how I go come the end of tomorrow!
Hate these picks as much as you want!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_W6hM2aEAAH3ac?format=jpg&name=900x900) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_W6hM3a8AAttw6?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_W6hM4a4AAtx6c?format=jpg&name=large) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_W6hM3bsAAKVt7?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn
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Okay, finally onto the official draft:
1. West Coast - Harley Reid.
They were never going to trade pick 1.
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2. North - Colby McKercher
3. Gold Coast - Jed Walter ..... matching North's bid.
4. North - Zane Duursma
Our later picks have come in a couple of spots. Currently have picks 29, 39, 63, 65.
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5. Hawthorn - Nick Watson
6. Ryley Sanders - Bulldogs
7. Caleb Windsor - Melbourne
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GWS have traded pick 8 (and 17) to Adelaide. Giants now have picks 11 & 15. First surprise of the draft.
Trade: Adelaide receives picks No.8 and 17, while the Giants get picks No.11, No.15 and a future second-rounder.
8. Adelaide - Daniel Curtin
This was our pick we traded last year.
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9. Gold Coast - Ethan Read ..... matching Geelong's bid.
Trade:
• Essendon receive: Pick 10
• Geelong receive: Pick 11 and pick 31
10. Essendon - Nate Caddy
11. Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
Our picks are now 30, 38, 62, 64.
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12. GWS - Phoenix Gothard
Brought his fan club with him :lol.
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1726532861115691113
13. Melbourne - Koltyn Tholstrup
14. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (A) ..... matching Bidney's bid.
15. Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (F/S) ..... matching another Bidney's bid.
16. Sydney - Will Green
Our picks are now 32, 40, 58, 60.
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Trade:
• GWS receives: Pick 17
• St Kilda receives: Pick 18 and a future second-round pick
17. GWS - James Leake. ...... the first slider of the night.
18. St Kilda - Darcy Wilson
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19. Hawthorn - Will McCabe (F/S) ...... matching Norf's bid.
20. Norf - Taylor Goad
Our picks are now: 33, 41, 57, 59.
Still two more bids to go :P.
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21. Adelaide - Charlie Edwards
22. Norf - Wil Dawson
23. Norf - Riley Hardeman
Pies next. Will they take one of the forwards like Logan Morris we've been linked to?
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24. Sydney - Caiden Cleary (A) ..... matching the Pies' bid.
Our picks are now: 34, 42, 56, 58.
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25. Collingwood - Harry DeMattia
3 picks left tonight (Adel, StK, Carl).
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26. Gold Coast - Will Graham (A) ..... matching the Crows' bid.
27. Adelaide - Oscar Ryan
Our picks are now: 35, 43, 55, 57.
Two picks left tonight (StK, Carl).
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28. St Kilda - Lance Collard.
That's one we were interested in gone.
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29. Carlton - Ashton Moir.
That's all folks for tonight.
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We are left with picks 35, 43, 55, 57 (although we'll only be using two of them).
So, our first pick will be the sixth pick tomorrow night.
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Some of the names still remaining:
Mitch Edwards ...... was #23 in Twomey's phantom draft.
Liam Fawcett
Joel Freijah
Clay Hall
Tew Jiath
Luke Lloyd
Luamon Lual
Kane McAuliffe
Logan Morris ....... was #26 in Twomey's phantom draft.
Ollie Murphy
Aiden O’Driscoll
Archer Reid
Archie Roberts
Koen Sanchez
Arie Schoenmaker
Cooper Simpson
Lachie Smith
George Stevens
Zane Zakostelsky
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Looks like luamon for us
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Sam Mitchell was pick 36 :shh
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LMAO - down to the dreggs of a dregg draft... big stuffing whoop... stuff the draft off it's a stuffing compromised joke.... :shh
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Apparently Schoenmaker is the one at the top of our draft board. Makes sense with Yze's request for good kickers.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81830384
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Apparently Schoenmaker is the one at the top of our draft board. Makes sense with Yze's request for good kickers.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/national-draft-23-after-this-year-we-all-need-therapy.1369608/post-81830384
Can kick, has some speed 194 cm and 91 kg, happy with that, plus he’s a lefty, and a play maker!!!
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The draft is embarrassing as a whole north has milked the system and rewarded for mediocre by this corrupt organisation and the academy of the interstate clubs embarrassing sun's got 2 top 10 picks for next to nothing. They have been in the league long enough academy's should go.
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Hearing that Arie Shoenmaker and George Stevens are the prime draft targets tonight!
Will be fascinating to see how it all plays out.
https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1726773250972373311
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BEST OF THE REST: 10 OVERLOOKED PROSPECTS SET TO BE DRAFTED ON TUESDAY NIGHT
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
21 November 2023
Archer Reid (Gippsland Power – key forward)
Who wants a key forward? Archer Reid is likely the next best one available.
The 203cm Victorian projects as a key forward who can pinch hit in the ruck and fill one of the tougher positions on the field to craft.
Carlton could be tempted with their second round pick, while Richmond and Collingwood will surely also be considering the draft’s other Reid.
Logan Morris (Western Jets – forward)
A prolific goal kicker, Morris was another surprising omission from the first 29 picks of the draft.
At 191cm, he sits in that awkward height between tall and small forwards, but certainly projects as someone capable of succeeding at AFL level.
Richmond, Melbourne and Brisbane feel like good fits.
Other 8 names mentioned:
Mitch Edwards (Peel Thunder – ruckman)
Arie Schoenmaker (Tasmanian Devils – defender)
Archie Roberts (Sandringham Dragons – midfielder)
Ollie Murphy (Sandringham Dragons – key defender)
Luamon Lual (GWV Rebels – defender)
Tew Jiath (Gippsland Power – defender)
George Stevens (GWV Rebels – midfielder)
Koen Sanchez (Peel Thunder – forward)
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/20/best-of-the-rest-10-overlooked-prospects-set-to-be-drafted-on-tuesday-night/
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The players linked to your club for night two as early trade offers emerge for prized pick: AFL Draft Late Mail
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 21st, 2023
Both Tew Jiath and Kane McAuliffe have also been linked to Richmond.
Richmond, which is expected to look at a key-position player with one of its picks, will strongly consider Reid if he’s still available at Pick 35.
Both the Pies and Tigers also have an interest in Western Jets goalkicker Logan Morris.
Joel Freijah, who slid down draft boards throughout the year but has appealing size and explosive power for clubs, has also been linked to Richmond and Essendon. Yet those two clubs also like Luamon Lual – a speedy and balanced mid-sized defender who initially had first-round interest from the Giants.
George Stevens could slide to Geelong’s second – or even third – pick, with Richmond and Essendon to also consider him.
... the likes of Keon Sanchez (Tigers and Lions) have interest from outside WA too.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-trade-rumours-pick-swap-whispers-2023-mitch-edwards-west-coast-eagles-archer-reid-brisbane-lions-luamon-lual/news-story/c39b7f7013e47add2a1b6bf3d2e6d511
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Going by the article:
30. West Coast - Mitch Edwards
31. Brisbane - Archer Reid
32. Geelong - Archie Roberts or possibly Angus Hastie, Luamon Lual, Joel Freijah
33. St Kilda - Ollie Murphy or possibly Jiath, McAuliffe.
34. Carlton - Roberts (if still available), Cooper Simpson, Matt Carrol or Billy Wilson.
35. Richmond
36. Geelong - Stevens (if still available) or those left over from their likes at 32.
37. Coll'wood - Reid (if still available) or Logan Morris
38. Freo - Shaun Mannagh or a local WA kid (Zakostelsky, Sanchez, O’Driscoll, Clay Hall or Joe Fonti)
39. Essendon - Stevens/Reid (if available)
40. West Coast - a local WA kid (see Freo at 38)
41. Freo - Harvey Thomas (GWS Academy) or a local WA kid.
42. Brisbane - ?
43. Richmond
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Hmm not sure about the quality of talls left.
I do like the look of Zacotelsky.
If the talls are not good enough then lets load up with mids Stevens and Simpson both different types of mids but look good fits for us.
Trouble with this is we need talls surely there is a tall worth trying left in the draft. maybe Zacotelsky or reid with one of Stevens or simpson.
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Plenty of talks left.
Morris slightly undersized. Reid, Fawcet, Zaco~
We should just get 2-3 and hope that at least 1 comes good.
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Draft Chances Tonight!
George Stevens - Likely
Archer Reid - Possibility
Logan Morris - Unlikely
Luamon Leal - Chance
Kane McAuliffe - Possibility
Zane Zakostelsky - Possibility
Cooper Simpson - Unlikely
Arie Schoenmaker - A Chance
Joel Freijah - Unlikely
Sam Van Rooyen - Rookie Draft Hopeful
Archie Roberts - Unlikely
Ollie Murphy - Unlikely
who knows what can happen, but this is what I’m hearing.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1726838378094829799
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:sleep
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Twomey just said Jiath is a chance at our first pick.
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2nd night has started.
30. West Coast - Archer Reid
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Trade:
Gold Coast: gain Brisbane's future fourth.
Brisbane: gain pick 51
31. Brisbane - Logan Morris.
There goes the two forwards.
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32. Geelong - Mitchell Edwards
Our pick is 3 away.
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33. St Kilda - Angus Hastie
Ollie Murphy is the slider of the draft. Still on the board.
Our pick is next after Carlton's.
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34. Carlton - Billy Wilson
We're next and up on the clock.
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Here we go!
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Trade
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We've traded for pick 38 and Freo's Future 3rd.
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Sounds like we wanted a tall in Reid or Morris. Now moved back for as the next kid we want will be available at 38.
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35. Fremantle - Cooper Simpson
So, we're back to 3 away.
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36. Geelong - Shaun Mannagh
We're up next after the Pies (unless we trade again).
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37. Collingwood - Tew Jiath
We're next and on the clock.
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Next years 3rd round must be loaded
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We've traded again.
Pick 38 for pick 40 for the Eagles future 3rd.
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38. West Coast - Clay Hall
We may be next after the Bombers unless we trade again :help lol.
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Next years 3rd round must be loaded
Must just be building assets for a big play
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Are we after Luamon Lual? Pick 40 is just on the cusp the no-bid Academy cut-off.
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39. Essendon - Luamon Lual
Well that answers that question.
Anyway, we should be next but I've said three time now :P
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Kane Mcauliffe!
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40. Richmond - Kane McAuliffe
n.b. See his own new thread.
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Yep, someone not linked as usual
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41. Freo - Ollie Murphy
We're next up again after Brisbane.
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Yep, someone not linked as usual
Some in the media had McAuliffe as an outside chance to us but if so it would be more likely at our 2nd pick (#43) rather than our first.
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42. Brisbane - Luke Lloyd
Clearly, we didn't want a tall forward for the sake of it.
Okay, we're next up again.
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Twomey thinks it may be Liam Fawcett who I forgot is a key forward.
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Twomey was correct.
43. Richmond - Liam Fawcett
n.b. see his own thread.
That's meant to be it for us.
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44. GWS - Joseph Fonti
End of the second round.
If we were to use another pick, then our next picks are 55 & 57.
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45. Bulldogs - Joel Freijah
We were linked to him.
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46. Hawthorn - Bodie Ryan
47. Bulldogs - Lachie Smith
Another we were linked to.
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Trade:
Port: gain pick 48
Norf: gain Port's future 4th.
48. Port - Thomas Anastasopoulos
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49. West Coast - Harvey Johnston
Trade:
StK - gain pick 50.
GWS - gain Saints' future 3rd.
50. St Kilda - Hugo Garcia
I wonder if we will try to trade our pick 55 for another future pick as we aren't going to use it.
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I was so interested in the 2nd night of the draft I forgot it was on :rollin :rollin
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51. Brisbane - Zane Zakostelsky
Trade:
Port - gain pick 52
Haw - gain a future pick.
52. Port - Lachlan Charleson
Trade:
Sydney - gain pick 53.
Haw - gain pick 59 + future pick.
53. Sydney - Patrick Snell
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Gold Coast passes.
We're up.
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We're thinking about it. Maybe we aren't passing.
Actually, we've got the next two picks now as the Suns are out.
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A third trade lol.
Pick 54 for a future 4th (linked to Essendon).
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54. Essendon - Archie Roberts
We're next up with our last pick.
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We passed.
So, we are officially done!
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Anti climax.
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Anti climax.
Was always going to be.... :shh
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55. Bulldogs - Aiden O'Driscoll
56. Hawthorn - Calsher Dear (F/S)
57. Port Adel. - Will Lorenz
58. Geelong - George Stevens.
Stevens fell to the late 50s.
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
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What a fizzer.
Was Hoping we would take Zacostelsky just something about this kid. Shame we traded out and missed a go at Cooper Stevens.
Pleased we actually took a kpf in Fawcett and surprised George Stevens did not get picked can only be down to pace id say. that was a criticism and id say he did not test well in that area.
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Because we didn’t rate him :shh
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Because we didn’t rate him :shh
Even slower than you.... :shh :shh
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59. GWS - Harvey Thomas (A)
Collingwood pass.
Eagles pass.
60. Freo - Jack Delean
61. Geelong - Oliver Wiltshire
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Because we didn’t rate him :shh
Apparently we did not rate many at all. Another year another draft where we hardly participate another year they don't have the confidence to back themselves in with some late picks.
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Swans pass.
62. St Kilda - Arie Schoenmaker
Like Stevens, a major slider.
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Because we didn’t rate him :shh
Apparently we did not rate many at all. Another year another draft where we hardly participate another year they don't have the confidence to back themselves in with some late picks.
Yes we definitely haven't been known for backing ourselves in with late picks over the years....(https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png)
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Hawthorn pass.
Melbourne pass.
63. Geelong - Lawson Humphries
The Cats then pass on their last pick.
St Kilda pass.
Port pass.
North pass.
Freo pass.
Almost done.
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Essendon pass.
Dogs pass.
64. Brisbane - Reece Torrent
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Brisbane pass on their last two picks.
National Draft done.
That's all folks!
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Agreed
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Clubs tonight made clear their frustrations with the academy system and its flaws. Changes coming. Eagles, Cats & Magpies all sounded the alarm tonight. Read the story.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/status/1726918762220441908
The academy system is flawed but Geelong and Collingwood are the last two clubs who can complain given they've won flags thanks to the F/S rule.
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Agreed
Because he's slow as treacle and that's the last thing we need more of.....:shh
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Clubs tonight made clear their frustrations with the academy system and its flaws. Changes coming. Eagles, Cats & Magpies all sounded the alarm tonight. Read the story.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/status/1726918762220441908
The academy system is flawed but Geelong and Collingwood are the last two clubs who can complain given they've won flags thanks to the F/S rule.
LMAO - so watch them change the rules for next year now we've loaded up on future picks to trade.... :shh
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Agreed
Because he's slow as treacle and that's the last thing we need more of.....:shh
Upgrade on Graham one day you'd have hoped haha
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Cannot understand why we passed when Stevens was still on the board.
Because we didn’t rate him :shh
Apparently we did not rate many at all. Another year another draft where we hardly participate another year they don't have the confidence to back themselves in with some late picks.
Yes we definitely haven't been known for backing ourselves in with late picks over the years....(https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_clown.png)
Been very poor at it if you look at it with eyes open over the journey..
Anyway agree Stevens, the knock on him was pace but there are no testing results for him that i can find. Have a feeling he is not as slow as some think.
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Club Picks Total Value
Adelaide 9, 33, 47, 65, 83 2438
Brisbane 17, 55, 59, 91 1390
Carlton 16, 36, 60, 61, 66, 90 1930
Collingwood 23, 41, 56, 92 1421
Essendon 8, 28, 82 2228
Fremantle 5, 14, 18, 32, 68, 79 4667
GWS 15, 29, 53, 54, 71, 89 2247
Geelong 7, 27, 45, 63, 81 2806
Gold Coast 4, 10, 20, 24, 37, 46, 73, 78 5949 :cheers will probably be trading out picks for points again
Hawthorn 3, 38, 64, 67, 77 2869
Melbourne 13, 31, 48, 50, 69, 87 2442
North Melbourne 2, 22, 40, 58, 72, 76 3980
Port Adelaide 34, 52, 88 788 :lol :rollin
Richmond 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80 4584 :thumbsup
St Kilda 12, 35, 51, 86 2049
Sydney 11, 19, 49, 85 2564
West Coast 1, 21, 57, 75 4060
Western Bulldogs 30, 42, 84 1024
Early scenario, we could probably trade a selection of picks 25, 26, 39, 43, 62 & 70 to GCS for pick 4 and go into the draft with 4 + 6 (before slides).
Or them for 10 + 20 and draft with 6 + 10 + 20 before slides.
Personally I'd be happy to get GCS P4 and just take 2 top 10 picks.
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Club Picks Total Value
Adelaide 9, 33, 47, 65, 83 2438
Brisbane 17, 55, 59, 91 1390
Carlton 16, 36, 60, 61, 66, 90 1930
Collingwood 23, 41, 56, 92 1421
Essendon 8, 28, 82 2228
Fremantle 5, 14, 18, 32, 68, 79 4667
GWS 15, 29, 53, 54, 71, 89 2247
Geelong 7, 27, 45, 63, 81 2806
Gold Coast 4, 10, 20, 24, 37, 46, 73, 78 5949 :cheers will probably be trading out picks for points again
Hawthorn 3, 38, 64, 67, 77 2869
Melbourne 13, 31, 48, 50, 69, 87 2442
North Melbourne 2, 22, 40, 58, 72, 76 3980
Port Adelaide 34, 52, 88 788 :lol :rollin
Richmond 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80 4584 :thumbsup
St Kilda 12, 35, 51, 86 2049
Sydney 11, 19, 49, 85 2564
West Coast 1, 21, 57, 75 4060
Western Bulldogs 30, 42, 84 1024
Early scenario, we could probably trade a selection of picks 25, 26, 39, 43, 62 & 70 to GCS for pick 4 and go into the draft with 4 + 6 (before slides).
Or them for 10 + 20 and draft with 6 + 10 + 20 before slides.
Personally I'd be happy to get GCS P4 and just take 2 top 10 picks.
Depending on views as between the quality of the 2024 draft v 2025 draft, we could get both 4 and 10 off them and also trade our 2025 F1 and go in with 4, 6 and 10 in the 2024 draft.
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Club Picks Total Value
Adelaide 9, 33, 47, 65, 83 2438
Brisbane 17, 55, 59, 91 1390
Carlton 16, 36, 60, 61, 66, 90 1930
Collingwood 23, 41, 56, 92 1421
Essendon 8, 28, 82 2228
Fremantle 5, 14, 18, 32, 68, 79 4667
GWS 15, 29, 53, 54, 71, 89 2247
Geelong 7, 27, 45, 63, 81 2806
Gold Coast 4, 10, 20, 24, 37, 46, 73, 78 5949 :cheers will probably be trading out picks for points again
Hawthorn 3, 38, 64, 67, 77 2869
Melbourne 13, 31, 48, 50, 69, 87 2442
North Melbourne 2, 22, 40, 58, 72, 76 3980
Port Adelaide 34, 52, 88 788 :lol :rollin
Richmond 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80 4584 :thumbsup
St Kilda 12, 35, 51, 86 2049
Sydney 11, 19, 49, 85 2564
West Coast 1, 21, 57, 75 4060
Western Bulldogs 30, 42, 84 1024
Early scenario, we could probably trade a selection of picks 25, 26, 39, 43, 62 & 70 to GCS for pick 4 and go into the draft with 4 + 6 (before slides).
Or them for 10 + 20 and draft with 6 + 10 + 20 before slides.
Personally I'd be happy to get GCS P4 and just take 2 top 10 picks.
Depending on views as between the quality of the 2024 draft v 2025 draft, we could get both 4 and 10 off them and also trade our 2025 F1 and go in with 4, 6 and 10 in the 2024 draft.
Thought of that myself but am not sure we should ever trade our F1 anymore tbh.
Really backfired with Hopper IMO and I'm not sure we've ever done it successfully/to benefit us.
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When does the Tassie draft blitz kick in ?
I would imagine that’s another reason we have stockpiled picks for next year
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When does the Tassie draft blitz kick in ?
I would imagine that’s another reason we have stockpiled picks for next year
Tassie's team will enter the comp. in 2028. So, their first draft will be 2027 unless the AFL gives them the same deal as the Giants which was done over two years. Then it would be 2027-28. Of course, the way it was set up back then also allowed GWS to create picks out of thin air.
ps. We still picked up Brandon Ellis at 15 in 2011 and Floss at 9 in 2012 despite the AFL's concessions to the new clubs. 2010 we infamously 'reached' for Reece Conca at 6 but later on made up for it by trading for Prestia & Caddy and Lynch via FA from the Suns who all went in the top 11.
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Hopefully the AFL will mandate it so they have to trade out some of their picks for players....they pretty much acknowledged that's what they should've done with GCS & GWS in retrospect....which probably means they won't and will just go right ahead and make the same mistake... :shh
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Geelong, Adelaide, Carlton and Melbourne have only taken two players each from their NGA’s over the past eight years.
@ClarkyHeraldSun left off the club with the least number of NGA players. Richmond with only one Derek Eggmollesse-Smith, who was delisted after 9 games.
Clubs canvassed protest before the draft to level out academy advantages. AFL facing big decisions as frustration grows.
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/status/1727227442384060706
https://twitter.com/RichmondDynasty/status/1727320948737712472
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Revealed: What your club wants changed at the draft
The compromised 2023 draft has caused a stir among plenty of clubs, but how would they do it differently, and what is the main rule the Tigers want changed?
The Suns’ academy dominated the opening night of the 2023 draft, with a rival club imploring the AFL to amend one rule that could possibly give the Gold Coast an unfair advantage.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-rival-clubs-call-for-academy-draft-tweaking-after-2023s-compromised-draft/news-story/f4b1805b2cd2fbeed57ef99dc14c3d4e
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Club Picks Total Value
Adelaide 9, 33, 47, 65, 83 2438
Brisbane 17, 55, 59, 91 1390
Carlton 16, 36, 60, 61, 66, 90 1930
Collingwood 23, 41, 56, 92 1421
Essendon 8, 28, 82 2228
Fremantle 5, 14, 18, 32, 68, 79 4667
GWS 15, 29, 53, 54, 71, 89 2247
Geelong 7, 27, 45, 63, 81 2806
Gold Coast 4, 10, 20, 24, 37, 46, 73, 78 5949 :cheers will probably be trading out picks for points again
Hawthorn 3, 38, 64, 67, 77 2869
Melbourne 13, 31, 48, 50, 69, 87 2442
North Melbourne 2, 22, 40, 58, 72, 76 3980
Port Adelaide 34, 52, 88 788 :lol :rollin
Richmond 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80 4584 :thumbsup
St Kilda 12, 35, 51, 86 2049
Sydney 11, 19, 49, 85 2564
West Coast 1, 21, 57, 75 4060
Western Bulldogs 30, 42, 84 1024
Early scenario, we could probably trade a selection of picks 25, 26, 39, 43, 62 & 70 to GCS for pick 4 and go into the draft with 4 + 6 (before slides).
Or them for 10 + 20 and draft with 6 + 10 + 20 before slides.
Personally I'd be happy to get GCS P4 and just take 2 top 10 picks.
It's going to harder next year to score a top 5-10 pick as Gold Coast will likely make finals while father-son clubs in Adelaide (Welsh), Brisbane (younger Ashcroft) & Carlton (Camporeale twins) are also likely finalists as well.
25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70 ---> 756 + 729 + 446 + 378 + 362 + 39 = 2710.
So, the second option in trading these picks for two picks in the teens is probably more likely what we'll end up with. We might even keep one of 39, 43 or 44. Leaving us with four picks - 6, teen, teen, one of 39-44.
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Word is we're after King or Cadman and a couple of free agents...McCluggage (doubt well get him particularly if we have a shyte year) ...Zuuhar & MCgrath(yuck)...King or Cadman will cost at least one first rounder ....might have to lose a decent player as well...Baker to WA's my early tip....things also depend on how Yze gets on with players....worst case scenario can see Bolton seeking an early release which we can turn into a "win" (Harley Reid and your first rounder thanks WC)if we get FA's we won't get compo for any fa's we lose so we'll probably have to match offers for RFAs like Graham f.e. to get picks but you'd think they'd have to be unders to get it done...be interesting to see what happens with Torney's kid-if he's any good and nominates us- as well as that could effect things too...might have to consider having points for Kellaway for the following year's draft as well - all pure speculation at this point but reckon one way or another we'll see quite the list turnover next year... :shh
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AFL to overhaul draft on father-sons, academy picks
The AFL will overhaul the national draft to force clubs to pay a fairer market rate to secure father-son or academy players.
AFL head of football Laura Kane wrote to all clubs in October before the national draft, putting them on notice of the plan to review the system. The review of the draft – and a call for suggested changes – will be a top agenda item at a meeting between the AFL and club general managers of football on Thursday.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-overhaul-draft-on-father-sons-academy-picks-20231129-p5ensp.html
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No doubt us trading in all those future picks will convince them to speed up the process now..... :shh