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Title: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2023, 06:20:48 PM
In: Dow, Cumberland, Banks

No outs yet.


Source: RFC twitter.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2023, 06:24:34 PM
RICHMOND squad

B:    Noah Balta            Dylan Grimes              Tylar Young

HB:  Nathan Broad          Liam Baker               Daniel Rioli

C: Kamdyn McIntosh      Tim Taranto                Jack Ross

HF:  Marlion Pickett        Jayden Short            Jack Graham

F:    Samson Ryan         Jack Riewoldt            Dustin Martin

R:  Toby Nankervis         Shai Bolton              Dion Prestia

Int (from):  Rhyan Mansell      Hugo Ralphsmith        Judson Clarke         Trent Cotchin
                 Ben Miller              Thomson Dow        Noah Cumberland        Sam Banks


Richmond will confirm its Round 12 team on Friday at 5.00pm AEST.

The Club will then name its substitute 60 minutes prior to the first bounce on Sunday.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1348257
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: PoppyTige on June 01, 2023, 06:27:52 PM
Hmm, no Flossy. :\
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2023, 06:33:39 PM
Still no Biggie.... :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 01, 2023, 07:19:16 PM
Still no Biggie.... :thumbsdown

Biggie is on the injury list, still a week away apparently.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2023, 07:29:49 PM
Dimma would've still picked him... :shh
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2023, 08:01:04 PM
No corny video of Banks ringing his oldies so doubt he'll be getting a run. :shh
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: georgies31 on June 01, 2023, 08:29:04 PM
A we still going to play Jack the bloke is sore on one leg try something.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 01, 2023, 08:31:32 PM
Reckon it's a given that Cotch plays this week or is at least the sub.

Has to play to ensure he plays his 300th at the MCG against the Saints  ;D

For the I/C I'd go Miller, Cumberland,  Banks and Cotch

With Mansell the sub

He offers more than the other 3 do when it comes to attacking contests
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2023, 09:04:09 PM
GWS squad for those interested. Himmelberg is back for them.

B: C.Brown, L.Keeffe, C.Idun

HB: L.Whitfield, J.Buckley, L.Ash

C: F.Callaghan, H.Perryman, R.Angwin

HF: B.Daniels, H.Himmelberg, T.Greene

F: J.Riccardi, J.Hogan, T.Bedford

FOLL: K.Briggs, T.Green, S.Coniglio

I/C (FROM): C.Ward, J.Peatling, A.Cadman, X.O’Halloran, J.Fahey, D.Lloyd, M.Flynn, H.Rowston


In: H.Himmelberg, M.Flynn, H.Rowston

Out: -

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-12-2023-team-news-lineups-full-squads-ins-and-outs-changes-injuries-fixture-games-latest-byes/news-story/d8b659592cbc21dc033ec7044c3f94c4
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: the claw on June 01, 2023, 09:12:21 PM
Sheesh Bradtke must be poo so must bauer be. No tall fwds apart from a bruised and battered JR who by their own words needs a break and they still cannot play a tall fwd. But wait we are gunna win the flag lol.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: the claw on June 01, 2023, 09:22:17 PM
RICHMOND squad

B:    Noah Balta            Dylan Grimes              Tylar Young

HB:  Nathan Broad          Liam Baker               Daniel Rioli

C: Kamdyn McIntosh      Tim Taranto                Jack Ross

HF:  Marlion Pickett        Jayden Short            Jack Graham

F:    Samson Ryan         Jack Riewoldt            Dustin Martin

R:  Toby Nankervis         Shai Bolton              Dion Prestia

Int (from):  Rhyan Mansell      Hugo Ralphsmith        Judson Clarke         Trent Cotchin
                 Ben Miller              Thomson Dow        Noah Cumberland        Sam Banks


Richmond will confirm its Round 12 team on Friday at 5.00pm AEST.

The Club will then name its substitute 60 minutes prior to the first bounce on Sunday.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1348257

They are kidding aren't they. Its total delusion. The only answer to it all is they just dont see where we are at or what we are lacking the most going fwd.

How can they pick all of Nankervis Ryan and Miller along with Young.

For another week i say play the freakin kids and play them in their natural roles in the areas we lack.

There is no reason at all why we cannot play
Sonsie - mid
Bradtke - KPP
Cumberland - sml/med fwd
Bauer - Utility
Miller - KPD
ONE of  - the myriad small fwds we have as a fwd ffs.
Banks - wing.
Dow  - mid. Just give him a decent go for three weeks and find out what we have one way or the other.

What does that mean well it means favorites who have lead us to basically 15th on the ladder miss out.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: the claw on June 01, 2023, 10:59:04 PM
THIS WEEK

M/C : FB  Baker - Young - Grimes
Claw : FB pickett - Miller - Grimes

M/C: HB Broad - Balta - Rioli
claw : HB Broad - Balta - Rioli

MC; C  McIntosh - Taranto - Ross
claw:C  McIntosh - Martin - Banks

MC: R  Nankervis - Bolton - Prestia
claw: R Nankervis - Taranto - Sonsie

MC: HF Pickett - Riewoldt - Graham
claw: HF Bolton - Riewoldt - Cumberland

MC; FF Short - Ryan - Martin
claw: FF Bauer - Bradtke - Clarke

MC: Int Mansell - R/Smith - Clarke - Cotchin - Miller - Dow - Cumberland - Banks.
claw: Int Cotchin - Baker - Prestia- Ryan - Dow.


Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 02, 2023, 07:13:41 AM
THIS WEEK

M/C : FB  Baker - Young - Grimes
Claw : FB pickett - Miller - Grimes


You go about playing blokes in what you believe are their right positions

But in the next key stroke you want to play Pickett as a back pocket  :huh3
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: the claw on June 02, 2023, 01:26:06 PM
THIS WEEK

M/C : FB  Baker - Young - Grimes
Claw : FB pickett - Miller - Grimes


You go about playing blokes in what you believe are their right positions

But in the next key stroke you want to play Pickett as a back pocket  :huh3

Go thru the threads over the years i have constantly said Picketts best role would be HB based on his marvelous games he played there for Souths. So no there is no key stroke involved i have always said if we gave him a decent go in the role he would be great.
The lack of good wingers and his form in the role has meant ive picked him as a winger. Now they are throwing him all over the shop which is okay by you i dont see you criticising them for moving him off a wing but are happy to have a go at me when i pick  him in what i think is his best role.

This week with no Vlastuin i think he would be ideal to replace him. If we arent playing him hb then sure play him wing and pee McIntosh off. Has to be a better option there than a lot we have played in the role.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2023, 02:24:21 PM
McQualter was asked in his presser today about us having any debutants this week, but he wouldn't give an answer (match committee this arvo). So, I'm guessing not as we usually promote our debutants leading into a match.

Doesn't sound like Cumberland is playing seniors either going by McQualter's presser.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: PoppyTige on June 02, 2023, 03:54:31 PM
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Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2023, 05:04:36 PM
Finalised ins and outs.

In: Clarke

Out: Miller


Source: RFC twitter.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2023, 05:05:38 PM
RICHMOND's finalised 22

B:    Noah Balta            Dylan Grimes              Tylar Young

HB:  Nathan Broad          Liam Baker               Daniel Rioli

C: Kamdyn McIntosh      Tim Taranto                Jack Ross

HF:  Marlion Pickett        Jayden Short            Jack Graham

F:    Samson Ryan         Jack Riewoldt            Dustin Martin

R:  Toby Nankervis         Shai Bolton              Dion Prestia

Int:  Rhyan Mansell      Hugo Ralphsmith        Judson Clarke         Trent Cotchin
                 

Emg:  Ben Miller              Thomson Dow        Noah Cumberland        Sam Banks


The Club will name its substitute 60 minutes prior to the first bounce on Sunday.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1348518
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: eliminator on June 02, 2023, 06:26:06 PM
Finalised ins and outs.
In: Clarke

Out: Miller

Poor decision. 
Source: RFC twitter.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Willy on June 02, 2023, 06:34:53 PM
Jeez can’t even give Banks a go.

Uninspiring.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: georgies31 on June 02, 2023, 06:38:08 PM
Underwhelming those changes for a side that's won 3 games all year. A cooked forward on one leg and players keep getting games not performing puzzling.

Get finals out of your heads it's about development and exposure this year for our kids who's up to it and who's not simple.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Andyy on June 02, 2023, 07:29:53 PM
Wow such useless ins for initial teams when we typically change nothing week in week out and hope something just clicks differently lol
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 02, 2023, 08:14:46 PM
Exceptionally disappointing

That's all I can say  :-\
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Chuck17 on June 02, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
I’m not sure what you guys expect

Teams are always going to pick what they see as best available
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2023, 09:17:43 PM
GWS

In: H.Himmelberg
Out: J.Peatling (omitted)


B: C.Brown, L.Keeffe, C.Idun

HB: L.Whitfield, J.Buckley, L.Ash

C: F.Callaghan, H.Perryman, R.Angwin

HF: B.Daniels, H.Himmelberg, T.Greene

F: J.Riccardi, J.Hogan, T.Bedford

FOLL: K.Briggs, T.Green, S.Coniglio

I/C: C.Ward, A.Cadman, X.O’Halloran, D.Lloyd

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-12-2023-team-news-lineups-full-squads-ins-and-outs-changes-injuries-fixture-games-latest-byes/news-story/d8b659592cbc21dc033ec7044c3f94c4
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: mightytiges on June 02, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
I’m not sure what you guys expect

Teams are always going to pick what they see as best available
That's the problem. What MC thinks is best available is totally different to what most supporters think is best available. I think it's fair this year for people to question our team selections, the playing of players out of their natural positions, and some players seemingly being judged more harshly than others who are continually not impacting and still getting games. Our forward line as we know is a dysfunctional mess yet we are not trying anything different be it personnel nor tactical.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Chuck17 on June 02, 2023, 11:23:16 PM
Supporters don’t run the club

Opinions are like hole, everyone has one but unless you are a decision maker yours is like gas in the wind
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2023, 12:21:29 AM
Supporters don’t run the club

Opinions are like hole, everyone has one but unless you are a decision maker yours is like gas in the wind
True but ultimately the decision makers will be judged by results. 2016 being the obvious example which lead to a cleanout of the assistant coaches due to them running out of ideas.

While we have no say, that doesn't stop people questioning and starting to lose faith in various aspects within the football dept. such as fitness and conditioning, recruiting and list management, and match committee decisions. Standards have dropped and there's a 2016-like malaise to this year. It won't come from us supporters because we have no input as you say Chucky, but the Club needs a kick up the pants. A refresh shouldn't be just limited to a new senior coach.

To answer your question about what we were expecting from team selection, I'd guess for most people it was seeing some new ideas and experimentation under a caretaker coach because pretty much picking the same team every week isn't working anyway especially up forward.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2023, 01:15:05 AM
Al Paton from the HeraldSun:

I’m not an AFL coach but you would think Tigers could make a couple of changes to the team, maybe give Jack a rest or get a look at a Sam Banks type? Things obviously traveling beautifully down there, no need to tinker

https://twitter.com/al_superfooty/status/1664530292806410240
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: eliminator on June 03, 2023, 08:40:00 AM
Supporters don’t run the club

Opinions are like hole, everyone has one but unless you are a decision maker yours is like gas in the wind
True but ultimately the decision makers will be judged by results. 2016 being the obvious example which lead to a cleanout of the assistant coaches due to them running out of ideas.

While we have no say, that doesn't stop people questioning and starting to lose faith in various aspects within the football dept. such as fitness and conditioning, recruiting and list management, and match committee decisions. Standards have dropped and there's a 2016-like malaise to this year. It won't come from us supporters because we have no input as you say Chucky, but the Club needs a kick up the pants. A refresh shouldn't be just limited to a new senior coach.

To answer your question about what we were expecting from team selection, I'd guess for most people it was seeing some new ideas and experimentation under a caretaker coach because pretty much picking the same team every week isn't working anyway especially up forward. 
    Very good post. One additional point is if supporters lose faith they don't buy memberships and don't turn up to games which means less money for the club and makes the club less attractive for sponsors.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: georgies31 on June 03, 2023, 09:40:44 AM
I’m not sure what you guys expect

Teams are always going to pick what they see as best available

When you have won 3 games in total obviously personal has alot to do with it we just keep going with the same personal and hoping for a different results it aren't happening this year should be all about the future getting games in our kids. Like Mightytiges said standards have dropped bigtime all over the footy department.
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Willy on June 03, 2023, 11:58:30 AM
Fully agree with the general sentiment that our selections are boring af at the moment.

Why not give Banks a go on the wing? I’d be happy to watch us lose if we are playing kids.

Our picks in the MSD were also uninspiring.

Key word: boring!

Bloody hell I’m sounding like Claw… :lol
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2023, 03:42:09 PM
Going by this pic, Banks and Miller trained with the seniors in the Captain's run today:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxrEBIZaUAUlQ9x?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1664858542711472128
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 03, 2023, 08:43:10 PM
Fully agree with the general sentiment that our selections are boring af at the moment.

Why not give Banks a go on the wing? I’d be happy to watch us lose if we are playing kids.

Our picks in the MSD were also uninspiring.

Key word: boring!

Bloody hell I’m sounding like Claw… :lol

Slap yourself Willy.
Now!
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: Knighter on June 03, 2023, 10:45:13 PM
Going by this pic, Banks and Miller trained with the seniors in the Captain's run today:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxrEBIZaUAUlQ9x?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1664858542711472128

The emergencies always do
Title: Re: Official R12 team vs Giants
Post by: one-eyed on June 04, 2023, 09:43:46 AM
Cumberland or Dow will be the sub. Both not playing in the VFL.