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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 10, 2006, 10:39:32 PM
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The Fifth Quarter replayed Lids mentioning on Before the Game that Patto came up to him after the game and told him that the "Fantastic 5" (Lids, Blingers, Meyer, Patto and Polo) are 3 wins from 3. Confidence and self-belief is a good thing but don't get ahead of yourselves boys :shh.
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Confidence and self-belief is a good thing but don't get ahead of yourselves boys :shh.
Umm yep, things are going nicely at the moment, so they can be confident. Won't always be like that though.
Good to see the group coming through are close though and calling themselves the Fantastic 5 (should be Fab 5 as in Beatles Fab 4, but who's gonna get picky lol). Means they'll probably want to stay together, grow together and play premierships together :thumbsup
Better than down at Geelong where the players don't even like each other - ie Ottens ;D
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Good to see the group coming through are close though and calling themselves the Fantastic 5 (should be Fab 5 as in Beatles Fab 4, but who's gonna get picky lol).
Must be calling themselves that after the superheroes comic - Human Torch, Psi Lord, Thing, Mr Fantastic (Big Brain) and Ms Fantastic (Lyja). Wonder who's which one? lol
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Ffive.PNG/200px-Ffive.PNG)
Brisbane had the Fab 4.
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Richmond's keen young talent helps turn things around
Rohan Connolly
The Age
June 11, 2006
RICHMOND had some reason to be confident better times lay ahead the summer before last when it acquired the services of Terry Wallace as coach and managed to secure five of the top 20 selections in the 2004 national draft.
But the question, when it comes to the inexact science of football recruiting, would have been just how far ahead. You have only to look at the belated emergence of Kayne Pettifer, taken all the way back in 2000, to know that different players develop at different rates.
And the Tigers, as has been well-chronicled over the years, have had their share of supposed coups turned recruiting disasters before.
But the jury might be coming in a little earlier this time, with a verdict very much in the affirmative.
So often pilloried for its lack of pure footballing skill, Richmond is a far slicker outfit these days than those Tigers of old. Certainly in comparison to its opposition yesterday, the once-feared Kangaroos, who managed to fumble, bungle and generally butcher what chances they managed to create.
There's no great mystery about why the Tigers have improved. That young talent is very quickly making its presence felt, not only easing the massive burden that fell upon a couple of genuine stars for too long, but allowing a few more seasoned Tigers to get under the guard.
Matthew Richardson wasn't there in the goal square against the Roos, and Nathan Brown, in his comeback game after seven weeks out, spent no more than 60 per cent of the game on the field. But where once that would have given Richmond little hope, yesterday it mattered little.
Brett Deledio, Richard Tambling, Danny Meyer, Adam Pattison and Dean Polo were those five top 20 picks in 2004. All made some sort of contribution to the cause, Deledio's the most obvious in his 25-possession haul.
But Polo's 2006 unveiling continues to be a revelation, Tambling is looking week by week more like the player upon whom such kudos was poured as a junior, and yesterday Meyer played easily the pick of his 10 senior games to date.
It was the still 19-year-old South Australian whose first goal of the second quarter put Richmond back in front after the Kangaroos had at one stage cleared out by a couple of straight kicks.
His second, the final goal of the game, was one of the highlights of the afternoon, Meyer collecting the ball from a tight spot hemmed in near the boundary line, and off one step calmly snapping what should remain a personal highlight.
"I don't know where I pulled that out of," he chuckled in the rooms after what he agreed had been the best day of his AFL career to date. "I had a reasonable game against Geelong a couple of weeks ago, but that was the best for sure."
And it's helped being part of a team within a team, that "class of '04" sticking tightly as a unit. "We haven't lost when we've all been playing together, and it's really good to have the enthusiasm of the young fellows and all the older blokes like 'Sugar' (Kane Johnson) and that leading the way.
"The enthusiasm around the club is great with the younger blokes starting to get some form and a few touches, and we've got some real momentum behind us at the moment."
Throw in the classy-looking Andrew Raines, not taken under the father-son rule but a bonus at No. 76 in the 2003 draft, and elevated rookie Nathan Foley who has impressed and you have a core of players who could make this team something to be feared.
It's been a blessing for the likes of Brown, too, who noted the rising surety with which this Richmond outfit is beginning to use the ball, and the resultant benefits to a couple of often maligned senior teammates.
"It's really stepping up," he said. "You can't make a quantum leap in skill level, but certainly it's up 10 to 15 per cent from last year. You throw in Deledio, Tambling, Meyer's a very good kid, Dean Polo makes the right decisions, and when you've got good users it helps, because the game's so much about keepings off these days.
"Everyone gets the benefit of it. Kayne Pettifer kicked four goals today, Chris Hyde has been very good for us, and it's guys like that who get out of the loop when there's not only two players you have to mind, but there's three or four or five dangerous forwards."
The Kangaroos certainly wouldn't have minded a few, having to stack all their goalkicking eggs in the basket of an admirable but overworked Nathan Thompson, a team seldom looking inspired until one of its own early draft picks in Daniel Wells got involved.
Richmond, in contrast, had youthful talent being delivered from seemingly every corner. Just how far can it take the Tigers in 2006?
"Terry's always said from day one we want to play finals footy, so that's our objective," said Meyer. "We won't be happy unless we make them." And buoyed by the efforts, and obvious resolve, of that class of 2004, it would seem Richmond has every chance.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/06/10/1149815361728.html
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They will be a feared group for the next decade :thumbsup
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The Fantastic 5's first loss :wallywink
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The Fab 5 is bulldust, the fact that we have a young kid who came out with it in the rooms after a win and the fact that another young kid told the media just suggested we're on the wrong track. We lost today and I dont know if the coaches agree, but fab 5 and the big 3 and all the rest of the supposed player groupings from drafts is bulldust of the highest order. The sooner the coach puts a stop to this rubbish the better of we will be. We pay our players to play, we dont pay them to be marketing executives and public relations consultants. Say No to Bulldust!
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The Fab 5 is bulldust, the fact that we have a young kid who came out with it in the rooms after a win and the fact that another young kid told the media just suggested we're on the wrong track. We lost today and I dont know if the coaches agree, but fab 5 and the big 3 and all the rest of the supposed player groupings from drafts is bulldust of the highest order. The sooner the coach puts a stop to this rubbish the better of we will be. We pay our players to play, we dont pay them to be marketing executives and public relations consultants. Say No to Bulldust!
i agree but in tassie, patto played fantastic, bling tried his guts out and wasnt on the field long enough, meyer also tried hard and was played out of position, polo should have played on buddy and lids was just lazy in the mind and attitude!
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I noted this morning in the newspapers that Plough hasnt said what I said yesterday directly but he inferred that some of the stuff that got said during the week wasnt on. Thats what a good coach should note! He needs to kick arse. Richmond needs a strong coach who runs a dictatorship not some dodgy player empowerment and democracy crap. You dont see Hiddink pee farting around, you didnt see Rehaggel give the greek players democratic rights during euro 2004. It was their way or the highway. So yes to Ploughs Dictatorship and say no to PR/Marketing and bulldust in general.
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I noted this morning in the newspapers that Plough hasnt said what I said yesterday directly but he inferred that some of the stuff that got said during the week wasnt on. Thats what a good coach should note! He needs to kick behind. Richmond needs a strong coach who runs a dictatorship not some dodgy player empowerment and democracy crap. You dont see Hiddink pee farting around, you didnt see Rehaggel give the greek players democratic rights during euro 2004. It was their way or the highway. So yes to Ploughs Dictatorship and say no to PR/Marketing and bulldust in general.
i agree but dont use guus hiddink as someone to compare, he is the most overrated soccer coach going around and wont take australia anywhere, the fact he is leaving the socceroos after the world cup is proof of that.
guus coached poorly v brazil, any good coach would have kewell and bresciano on fron teh 1st minute, they are our 2 best players. brazil played in 1st gear and won 2-0
im am sick and tired of teh media pumping up hiddink as if he is god, how many world cups has he won????
the last world cup he only got korea through because he was coaching a team that the referees helped win!!!
but i hope terry is coming down hard on lids, if patto said something in the shower, it should have stayed in the shower, the only person who can come out and brag and boast and back it up is aker!
imagine aker in our team rather than tiv, would have had 4+ goals more on the board 4 us
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is no more .... :-\
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/abbey3.jpg)
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What about the Fab 4 now
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What about the Fab 4 now
It was almost just the Fab 3 with Polo apparently on the trade week table last week.
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It's still the fab 5, Thomson just took Meyer's spot
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It's still the fab 5, Thomson just took Meyer's spot
Add McGuane and Thursty and we get a Fab 7 ;).
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don't get ahead of yourselves boys :shh.
Was always going to end in tears for someone.
Classic case of building a player up before they have achieved anything.
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Hmmm well if it is 7 then fab doesn't go with that, what about the Stupendous Seven?
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Thought it was the Magnificent Seven ;)
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Morton was from the same draft so 8....what about White, was he from the same draft too?
Stripes
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Was always from the Top 20 picks, so it's still 5
White was from 2005
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Morton was from the same draft so 8....what about White, was he from the same draft too?
Stripes
If you include trading for Simmo that's 9 lol.
Yep Whitey was the 2005 PSD. If we end up with a dynamic duo out of that draft we'll be lucky :P. Paddy and Cass already gone. JON very lucky to still be around. Whitey and Cleve our only hope to save something decent from 2005 :pray.
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Make that now ummm
5 4 3 left :-\
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Ummm make that now
5 4 3 2 .... 1 of the "Fantastic 5" left :P
A lesson to all at RFC to not get carried away early and count your young chickens before they hatch :-\
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Ummm make that now 5 4 3 2 .... 1 of the "Fantastic 5" left :P
A lesson to all at RFC to not count your chickens before they hatch :-\
thats right but at least carlton look just as sily as we do with there they know we're coming thing they had.
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Better than down at Geelong where the players don't even like each other - ie Ottens ;D
What a moron, Moi! :wallywink :rollin
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Better than down at Geelong where the players don't even like each other - ie Ottens ;D
What a moron, Moi! :wallywink :rollin
:ROTFL
That's the problem with being a poster on these forums for a long time. Silly mods ;) bump up ancient threads from 5 years ago with old posts for all to see and laugh at :wallywink :lol
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Im pretty happy with my efforts in this thread via the old PuntRdRoar tag ;D
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It's still the fab 5, Thomson just took Meyer's spot
Add McGuane and Thursty and we get a Fab 7 ;).
Lids will be the only left after delistings and trades.
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I think a lot of us ended up calling them the F..... 5, well appart from Lids of course.... :lol
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Fingers crossed thursfield gets us a good pick.
We still have mcgaune from tht draft pool also
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Ummm make that now 5 4 3 2 .... 1 of the "Fantastic 5" left :P
A lesson to all at RFC to not get carried away early and count your young chickens before they hatch :-\
Wasn't that Adam Pattison that made that up?
:wallywink
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Ummm make that now 5 4 3 2 .... 1 of the "Fantastic 5" left :P
A lesson to all at RFC to not get carried away early and count your young chickens before they hatch :-\
Wasn't that Adam Pattison that made that up?
:wallywink
YES, it was actually, the only good thing about patto is that he goes out with "'Miss World "',then again she might have woken up to herself :lol
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Ummm make that now 5 4 3 2 .... 1 of the "Fantastic 5" left :P
A lesson to all at RFC to not get carried away early and count your young chickens before they hatch :-\
Wasn't that Adam Pattison that made that up?
:wallywink
YES, it was actually, the only good thing about patto is that he goes out with "'Miss World "',then again she might have woken up to herself :lol
WHAT?
Miss World? Or Miss Australia?
Picture? :pray
:thumbsup
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Will try, look him up on Facebook, LOL
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Will try, look him up on Facebook, LOL
:rollin He has to accept the request, that could take ages!
Miss World? Which year?
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only joking, she is good though
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only joking, she is good though
:rollin Got me!
But don't all AFL players ... expect Brent Harvey ... have Miss World?
Brad Miller? James Bartel?
:thumbsup
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why did we not draft cameron wood ahead of patto ???
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why did we not draft cameron wood ahead of patto ???
our history of recruiting and list management is full of why's ;D
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why did we not draft cameron wood ahead of patto ???
And Cameron Wood has gone on to do what?
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why did we not draft cameron wood ahead of patto ???
And Cameron Wood has gone on to do what?
being ... Dead Wood ...
:banghead
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Officially now only a FAB 1.
Only Lids and McGuane left from our eight National draft picks in 2004. Combine that with the 3 from 3 misses in 2005 and the two drafts that should have set us up by now were utter failures (mind you every draft for a decade pre-2006 were total failures :P ). It just how important the first two drafts are for a new coach to add talent and set a new direction for the list. Fail to recruit well and it's pretty much curtains for your AFL coaching career whether you can coach or not.
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the miller wallace era is all behind us now
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the miller wallace era is all behind us now
They've left the building but we'll still be paying for it for a while yet.