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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: letsgetiton! on October 13, 2006, 01:08:55 PM
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polak has been traded to richmond in a deal that exchanges our 1st rnd picks and 3rd round picks
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more to come details still being finalised but draft picks b/w freo richmond and collingwood have been exchanged in this deal
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Richmond get:
Pollack
Pick 13 (Freo)
Pick 60 (Coll)
Freo Get:
Tarrant
Pick 42 (Rich)
Coll got:
Medhurst
Pick 8 (Rich)
Pick 64 (Freo)
Trade sorted days ago, but Essendon got involved
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Richmond get:
Pollack
Pick 13 (Freo)
Pick 60 (Coll)
Freo Get:
Tarrant
Pick 42 (Rich)
Coll got:
Medhurst
Pick 8 (Rich)
Pick 64 (Freo)
Trade sorted days ago, but Essendon got involved
i think we did ok with this, pick 8 or 13 is no difference in this so called super draft
miler just spoke on sen
he said the deal would hjave been settled ages ago but essendon got in the way, i reckin the bombers are just shi.tting themselves that we will be aforce and they wont!
miller said they are wrapped we have polak
he said we have a group of fine young men at our team and it will be fantastic to add a 222 kpp in the team who can build and bond with these fantastic men around him
no more deals 4 us , miller said he is going home, sounded very tired
well done miller! great job, losing pick 8 and gaining 13 is ok with me
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Disappointing result IMV
We shouldn't have given away 2 picks and we should at have got Freo 2nd pick
And I don't know how we can be better off with pick 13 over pick 8 in the 1st round
I am confused
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Miller said he's off home. That's all we did :banghead.
Not happy Jan >:(. It's bad enough pick 8 is gone but to trade away our 3rd round pick as well is dumb dumb dumb :banghead.
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If this wasnt a disgrace itd be funny...what the eff are we gonna do with effen 60 ffs. Miller better do something in the next 40 minutes and get us afew extra picks or people like me will start calling for resignations.
miller has gone home
dont stress, how many top 20 pics actually become stars and how many late picks actually out do all,
hird etc, and what about raines recently
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And so much for - we wont be trading away our 1st round picks >:(
We did >:(
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And the club now needs to find the money for Polak because we didn't trade a player of our own :scream.
When will this club learn that trade week is about gaining good picks not giving them away :banghead. Pies has owned us and Freo with this deal.
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I know Weaver doesn't post here, but I do value his knowledge on the kids and he is adamant that then ones we want weren't in the pick 8 mark, more likely to slip to 13...still two picks in the the top 26 at this stage, not likely to change...and despite some people moving heaven and earth to offload Tuck, I'm still happy to have him...
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And I don't know how we can be better off with pick 13 over pick 8 in the 1st round
I am confused
who is gonna be a better player . meyer or polo???
polo by far and he was what pick 20 and meyer 12, iirc
i think too many ppl stress too much about draft picks, pick 1-4 are always where u wanna be , but u have to tank and suffer to gain those picks. from pick 5 onwards u just never know what u wuill get, no one expected polo to be as good as he has become, and what about raines, and all past and present gr8s like voss, hird etc, they were not top picks iirc.
this is where drafting is difficult, u cant just spot the obv , u have to find out which unknown is gonna be a standout
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Oh well I'm not happy with losing a top 10 pick, but i am glad to get a 'ready made' tall defender. We really need one, it's just that Polak couldn't get in freo's best 22!
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And the club now needs to find the money for Polak because we didn't trade a player of our own :scream.
When will this club learn that trade week is about gaining good picks not giving them away :banghead. Pies has owned us and Freo with this deal.
miller said on the radio that salary cap was never an issue, that his coments were not interpreted right.
we will come out ok with this wait and see
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miller has gone home
dont stress, how many top 20 pics actually become stars and how many late picks actually out do all,
hird etc, and what about raines recently
Let's see X
We got
Deledio
Tambling
Myer
Pattison
Polo
inside the top 20 a few years ago and so far I reckon we'll end up going 100% or 75%-80% at worst
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If I was gary march, id wait until 2pm, if there were no more picks coming our way id be sacking afew people this afternoon.
Wasn't March the one stopping us trading players?
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If we hadnt of lost 42 it wouldnt be a this bad, the fact they went back 5 places in the 1st round and completely traded out of Round 3 is inexcusable absolutely inexcuseable.
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who is gonna be a better player . meyer or polo???
polo by far and he was what pick 20 and meyer 12, iirc
i think too many ppl stress too much about draft picks, pick 1-4 are always where u wanna be , but u have to tank and suffer to gain those picks. from pick 5 onwards u just never know what u wuill get, no one expected polo to be as good as he has become, and what about raines, and all past and present gr8s like voss, hird etc, they were not top picks iirc.
this is where drafting is difficult, u cant just spot the obv , u have to find out which unknown is gonna be a standout
Agree X that drafting is difficult but that's why you try to get as many early picks a feasible so you limit your risk. We now have only 2 picks in the top 50 of a superdraft and lost our top 10 pick :o. Not happy :banghead.
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Disappointing result IMV
We shouldn't have given away 2 picks and we should at have got Freo 2nd pick
And I don't know how we can be better off with pick 13 over pick 8 in the 1st round
I am confused
I agree. I just don't get why we would downgrade picks for this guy :-[
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If we hadnt of lost 42 it wouldnt be a this bad, the fact they went back 5 places in the 1st round and completely traded out of Round 3 is inexcusable absolutely inexcuseable.
Exactly Ramps. We'll just get two kids and then probably draft a recycled player with pick 60. We've gone backwards in just one week :help.
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Is Polak better than Jason Cloke? Has he ever played a game anywhere near Cloke's best?
It seems from the outside that he's been punished for two GF efforts, the one he missed and the one where he was expected to perform as a key forward.
I think Cloke is very under-rated, and he'd be virtually a freebie wouldn't he?
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Richmond director of football Greg Miller says the club is delighted to have secured former Fremantle defender/forward Graham Polak in a complex deal that involves former Pie Chris Tarrant shifting to the Dockers and ex-Freo forward Paul Medhurst moving to Collingwood.
Miller confirmed Polak had signed with the Tigers for three years, which will see him tied to Richmond until the end of the 2009 season. He said Polak was a terrific addition for the club.
"It's great win for the Richmond Football Club," Miller said.
"To have a guy that is 195 centremetres down there is going to be a great help."
Miller said Polak's move to Victoria would do him the world of good.
Full story
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=302994
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And so much for - we wont be trading away our 1st round picks >:(
We did >:(
we didnt trade a first rnd pick, we exchanged a spot, 13 is still a first rnd pick
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Is Polak better than Jason Cloke? Has he ever played a game anywhere near Cloke's best?
It seems from the outside that he's been punished for two GF efforts, the one he missed and the one where he was expected to perform as a key forward.
I think Cloke is very under-rated, and he'd be virtually a freebie wouldn't he?
Jason Cloke did well early on as a loose sweeper across HB and third man up in a contest but once opposition clubs made him accountable and played 1-on-1 on him he was exposed. Dud!
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And so much for - we wont be trading away our 1st round picks >:(
We did >:(
we didnt trade a first rnd pick, we exchanged a spot, 13 is still a first rnd pick
Yeah I understand that X but we've been told for the last 2 years that we would not trade our first round pick. At the start of this week we had pick 8 - our first round pick. It is now gone to the Pies no less :chuck :banghead
It has now been traded for another Club's 1st rd pick- we traded our 1st round pick
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Collingwood have 2 first rounders and good luck to them...
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miller has gone home
dont stress, how many top 20 pics actually become stars and how many late picks actually out do all,
hird etc, and what about raines recently
Let's see X
We got
Deledio
Tambling
Myer
Pattison
Polo
inside the top 20 a few years ago and so far I reckon we'll end up going 100% or 75%-80% at worst
and a ? still remains on meyer, patto and blingers. polo and lids are the only 2 thus far u can say will vbe consistant performers at this stage, the jury is still out
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everyone is stressing over nothing
today is frid the 13th, we have 13th pick! thats fantastic cos believe it or not 13 is a good luck number!
13-10-2006, all digits add up to 13 also
we are gonna get a killer player with this pick wait and see
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We had: 8, 26, 42, 58
We have: 13, 26, 58, 60
:( :banghead
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everyone is traessing over nothing
today is frid the 13th, we have 13th pick! thats fantastic cos believe it or not 13 is a good luck number!
13-10-2006, all digits add up to 13 also
we are gonna get a killer player with this pick wait and see
:rollin
I got married on the 13th X and normally I reckon 13 is pretty lucky myself.... but this time I don't feel very lucky
To not have a 3rd pick in this super draft is not a great result
but at least I was right about one thing - this deal's sure got us talking ;D
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
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Looks like we are the only team to downgrade fiist round picks in the super draft. We must be seeing something that nobody else sees.
The only time I see things that nobody else can is when I am drunk. Hey its Miller time
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Just keep in mind, I wouldnt think there is much difference between pick 8 and pick 13, this draft is very deep. Reality check is that Aaron Davey didnt even get drafted and was overlooked and Rookied. I reckon we have done very good in getting Polak and still retaining a first round pick. ;)
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I agree, we've effectively drafted Polack at pick 42. Not too bad at all :gotigers
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Just keep in mind, I wouldnt think there is much difference between pick 8 and pick 13, this draft is very deep. Reality check is that Aaron Davey didnt even get drafted and was overlooked and Rookied. I reckon we have done very good in getting Polak and still retaining a first round pick. ;)
Then why trade away a third round pick as well if the draft is deep. Sorry Jack we caved in and hence stuffed up. Just having 2 picks in the top 50 of a superdraft is a disgrace.
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I agree, we've effectively drafted Polack at pick 42. Not too bad at all :gotigers
Agree
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Lets just wait and see who falls though to pick 8 that we miss out on before we say there is no difference between pick 8 and 13. The way I see it there are 6 players that they say are good enough to be pick 1 in this draft , some clubs may just stuff up and one of those players may fall to to pick 8. There will be none at 13 thats for sure.
There sure is a difference then.
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losing 42 for 60 is a farce Jacko. Being stuck with players because they backended contracts is also a farce. Staggering and inexcuseable.
Ramps, I agree with your thoughts on being stuck with players who have backended contracts but thats the salary cup issue and fitting of players in it
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I am at least willing to give Polack a chance before slitting my wrists...this reminds me of all the people 1 year ago saying Simmonds was the worst trade ever, and to sack Miller...the same people praising Simmo this year...I will follow RICHMOND's decisions...I SUPPORT Richmond!
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I dont recall bagging Simmonds infact i think people were laughing how that dealing was organised. We all support Richmond but some of us are tired of failure and mediocrity thats all and when we see clubs rebuild in a better fashion then well...I think we have a right to ask questions.
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Just keep in mind, I wouldnt think there is much difference between pick 8 and pick 13, this draft is very deep. Reality check is that Aaron Davey didnt even get drafted and was overlooked and Rookied. I reckon we have done very good in getting Polak and still retaining a first round pick. ;)
its about time i had support on this! i agree with you totally :clapping
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No need to slit wrists, its only a game of football ;D
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I am at least willing to give Polack a chance before slitting my wrists...this reminds me of all the people 1 year ago saying Simmonds was the worst trade ever, and to sack Miller...the same people praising Simmo this year...I will follow RICHMOND's decisions...I SUPPORT Richmond!
Happy to give Polak a chance he's a tiger now :gotigers
Just keep in mind, I wouldnt think there is much difference between pick 8 and pick 13, this draft is very deep. Reality check is that Aaron Davey didnt even get drafted and was overlooked and Rookied. I reckon we have done very good in getting Polak and still retaining a first round pick. ;)
Fair call Jack it just seems a massive wait from pick 26 to pick 60
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at least today proves we have passion :gotigers
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Weaver's analysis of the pick 8 situation...not the messiah, just a very intelligent junior footy boy :lol
Which is exactly why I have been saying all along that I expected us to be a team looking to trade our pick.
Gumbleon, Leunberger, Hansen and Gibbs suit us perfectly but will be gone.
Selwood is too slow for us
Armitage and Hislop are inside midfielders, which are not the type we go for.
Sellar is a clone of Pattison (although a slightly better one). He won't ruck and he will struggle in a KP.
Thorp is not quite a KP player and not quite a ruck-rover. He is the most likely if we keep our pick, but again not really our type.
Reiwoldt? Don't make me laugh.
Collard and Jetta are small half-forwards. Tippett a big gorilla FF. O'Brien a back-pocket specialist.
The guys that are the ones that we'd be looking at - Benjamin, Pettard, O'Keefe, Hawksley, Boak, Edwards, Houlihan, Connors - will all still be available at 13.
Said it over and over again. I am not sitting on the fence when I say I don't know who to take at pick 8. The players around that mark don't fit our profile. I have always thought we would end up reaching for a player that we could have gotten at 15.
No problem at all with trading pick 8.
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Weaver's analysis of the pick 8 situation...not the messiah, just a very intelligent junior footy boy :lol
Which is exactly why I have been saying all along that I expected us to be a team looking to trade our pick.
Gumbleon, Leunberger, Hansen and Gibbs suit us perfectly but will be gone.
Selwood is too slow for us
Armitage and Hislop are inside midfielders, which are not the type we go for.
Sellar is a clone of Pattison (although a slightly better one). He won't ruck and he will struggle in a KP.
Thorp is not quite a KP player and not quite a ruck-rover. He is the most likely if we keep our pick, but again not really our type.
Reiwoldt? Don't make me laugh.
Collard and Jetta are small half-forwards. Tippett a big gorilla FF. O'Brien a back-pocket specialist.
The guys that are the ones that we'd be looking at - Benjamin, Pettard, O'Keefe, Hawksley, Boak, Edwards, Houlihan, Connors - will all still be available at 13.
Said it over and over again. I am not sitting on the fence when I say I don't know who to take at pick 8. The players around that mark don't fit our profile. I have always thought we would end up reaching for a player that we could have gotten at 15.
No problem at all with trading pick 8.
:thumbsup
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
Suggest that his 70 games so far is evidence to the contrary.
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
Suggest that his 70 games so far is evidence to the contrary.
wait and see, when one isnt happy he wont play to his best potential
btw, how many games has tivers and hall and krak play?? dont see the firing up the tv screen
polak is 22, 70 games under his belt , in 2 yrs time he wil be a 24 yr 100 game player who will be dominating the game, i have a feeling about this and when he does, remember x man told u so
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I'm with X, Jackstar and Fwoy on this one. I think we've done pretty well. :thumbsup The only disappointing thing about the trade is where our pick 8 went. :help We needed a ready made KPP like Polak who can lead the way for our other tall youngsters like Patto, Limbach etc..who should hopefully come on in the next year or two. Keep in mind we also have a few other youngsters like Hughes and JON who will be pressing for regular selection so the nursery is pretty healthy. What we needed was an injection of experience and size to fill the void with Chubba & Staff gone and Polak fits the bill perfectly. Also, he wanted to come to the Tigers. That's worth something in itself.
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Tigers rapt to secure Polak
2:35:49 PM Fri 13 October, 2006
richmondfc.com.au
The Tigers have earmarked Polak for centre half-back and believe he will provide a significant boost to their defence with his height, strength and courage. They also recognise his potential to fill a key role up forward if required.
“We were very keen to secure Graham’s services, but at the same time, didn’t want to have to give too much away to get him. In the end, we certainly think it’s a fair and reasonable deal, because we’re still in the first round of the Draft, which is an important factor for us,” said Richmond coach Terry Wallace.
“There’s no doubting Graham’s ability and, at just 22, we’re excited about what he has to offer us over the next decade.
“As a young, key-position player, we feel he’ll fit really well into our youthful group, who are all coming through together.”
“I’m really stoked to be going to Richmond,” Polak said.
“It’s the club I wanted to go to and to get there is a big relief.
“I met Terry (Wallace) a couple of weeks ago and got along really well with him, and I reckon he’ll be able to get the best out of me.
“I just can’t wait to get started there.”
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=303044
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RFC site already have Polak in a Tigers' jumper. One of their better photoshop jobs.
(http://richmondfc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/303042aq.jpg)
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Tigers rapt to secure Polak
2:35:49 PM Fri 13 October, 2006
richmondfc.com.au
“I’m really stoked to be going to Richmond,” Polak said.
“It’s the club I wanted to go to and to get there is a big relief.
“I met Terry (Wallace) a couple of weeks ago and got along really well with him, and I reckon he’ll be able to get the best out of me.
“I just can’t wait to get started there.”Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=303044
this is why we should all be wrapped and excited about polak coming over!!!!!
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Getting Polak isn't what is upsetting people. We all hope he delivers on his potential for the Tigers. It's only having 2 picks in the top 50 of a superdraft that is.
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
Suggest that his 70 games so far is evidence to the contrary.
wait and see, when one isnt happy he wont play to his best potential
btw, how many games has tivers and hall and krak play?? dont see the firing up the tv screen
polak is 22, 70 games under his belt , in 2 yrs time he wil be a 24 yr 100 game player who will be dominating the game, i have a feeling about this and when he does, remember x man told u so
Saw quite a bit of Polak at East Freo in the WAFL this year when Freo were playing their best AFL footy in the lead-up to the finals.
Graeme did not display an eagerness to push into this 22, and was easily beaten by WAFL players with less ability and less body mass, but more desire.
Very optimistic to say that he will be dominating the game at AFL level, let alone play at a level to justify a position in the starting 18 with any consistency.
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X none of us are worried about Polak, we just wanna know why we traded down 5 spots in the first round and completely traded out of the 3rd round. see at pick 42 we could have got a good player ... whatl do you reckon we'll get at 60 lol. We are only gonna have 4 picks after having 3 last year. Sorry X but its not on. I hope Polak slays em, but our strategy at Richmond is completely rooted.
It's worse than last year. We had 3 picks in the top 50 and that wasn't really enough. Now we've just got 2. You should be aiming to bring in 3 blokes each year who become 10 year players. Just having the bare minimum of picks means we can't afford to have any failures which is unrealistic.
Getting Polak should have been a bonus. We should have a third rund pick + Polak; not essentially drafting Polak at 42. Pick 42 in the superdraft for a fringe player. We paid way over the odds.
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In all honesty, what did u expect to give up...just five spaces?
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
Suggest that his 70 games so far is evidence to the contrary.
wait and see, when one isnt happy he wont play to his best potential
btw, how many games has tivers and hall and krak play?? dont see the firing up the tv screen
polak is 22, 70 games under his belt , in 2 yrs time he wil be a 24 yr 100 game player who will be dominating the game, i have a feeling about this and when he does, remember x man told u so
Saw quite a bit of Polak at East Freo in the WAFL this year when Freo were playing their best AFL footy in the lead-up to the finals.
Graeme did not display an eagerness to push into this 22, and was easily beaten by WAFL players with less ability and less body mass, but more desire.
Very optimistic to say that he will be dominating the game at AFL level, let alone play at a level to justify a position in the starting 18 with any consistency.
polak didnt wanna be there, how the hell can u perform when u hate a place, just like going to school, subjects u love , u thrive in, ones u hate, u dont give a rats @rse about
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we have picked up a kid who wil become the best kpp player in the afl!
polak wil be a gun wait and see
Suggest that his 70 games so far is evidence to the contrary.
wait and see, when one isnt happy he wont play to his best potential
btw, how many games has tivers and hall and krak play?? dont see the firing up the tv screen
polak is 22, 70 games under his belt , in 2 yrs time he wil be a 24 yr 100 game player who will be dominating the game, i have a feeling about this and when he does, remember x man told u so
Saw quite a bit of Polak at East Freo in the WAFL this year when Freo were playing their best AFL footy in the lead-up to the finals.
Graeme did not display an eagerness to push into this 22, and was easily beaten by WAFL players with less ability and less body mass, but more desire.
Very optimistic to say that he will be dominating the game at AFL level, let alone play at a level to justify a position in the starting 18 with any consistency.
A change is as good as a holiday in my book. You could tell he had a falling out with the club after round 9 last season. Until then his stats were pretty reasonable and against mostly quality opposition.
Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B
Round 3 16/04/2006 Port Adelaide 5 7 12 7 0 1 1 0 0 2
Round 4 22/04/2006 Adelaide 9 2 11 7 0 1 1 0 3 1
Round 5 30/04/2006 St Kilda 5 3 8 5 4 2 0 2 0 1
Round 6 06/05/2006 West Coast 10 7 17 11 7 6 1 3 0 0
Round 7 13/05/2006 Melbourne 9 6 15 11 1 1 1 1 0 0
Round 8 20/05/2006 Kangaroos 4 8 12 6 9 0 1 2 0 0
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In all honesty, what did u expect to give up...just five spaces?
Exchanging 1st and 3rd round picks maximum. At least then we wouldn't have coughed up a good pick. We've paid up on Polak's potential not actual performance over 5 years on a AFL list. We need him to perform now otherwise we automatically lose on the deal because we traded out of the 3rd round. It's the RFC who are taking the risk on a guy on the fringes with off-field issues yet somehow that counted for nothing. The Doggies got McDougall for exchanging 2nd and 4th round picks. Polak's value should have been around that mark.
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I no longer feel angry about the rubbish that went on during trade week only very very sad that a famous football club with a proud and storied history continues to engage in mediocrity and make failure its goal. We will not make the 8 next year. We will finish between 10th and 12th.
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In all honesty, what did u expect to give up...just five spaces?
Exchanging 1st and 3rd round picks maximum. At least then we wouldn't have coughed up a good pick. We've paid up on Polak's potential not actual performance over 5 years on a AFL list. We need him to perform now otherwise we automatically lose on the deal because we traded out of the 3rd round. It's the RFC who are taking the risk on a guy on the fringes with off-field issues yet somehow that counted for nothing. The Doggies got McDougall for exchanging 2nd and 4th round picks. Polak's value should have been around that mark.
Agree 100% that RFC assumes the risk in this deal.
Polak has alot to prove both on & off field.
What are the odds of Polak moving into Croad's house during his settling-in period ?
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I no longer feel angry about the rubbish that went on during trade week only very very sad that a famous football club with a proud and storied history continues to engage in mediocrity and make failure its goal. We will not make the 8 next year. We will finish between 10th and 12th.
I've been very negative about the trade but I'm not that pessimistic about next year. I didn't think we'd make the Eight next year anyway and in fact Polak might actually help us into the top 8 if he can hold down CHB and free up Joel and we finally get a bit of luck with a injury-free run. It's in 3-5 years time that decisions like giving up a 3rd round pick hurt a footy club when that kid you missed out on would have been hitting his straps and adding to your depth.
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I am a betting man and we are ""morals"" to make the eight next year.
Having less picks in the draft is more than likely plannned due to salary cap restraints as players like Tuck are on backended contracts thus they proved impossible to be traded
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I no longer feel angry about the rubbish that went on during trade week only very very sad that a famous football club with a proud and storied history continues to engage in mediocrity and make failure its goal. We will not make the 8 next year. We will finish between 10th and 12th.
do u need a shrink ramps!!
we wil make the 8, we havent ahad a chb since jim jess, this is exactly what we needed
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the last time i made a big call about where we would finish i was on another forum. I said we would finish stone motherless last. I was banned. 10 months later we finished stone motherless last.
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I am a betting man and we are ""morals"" to make the eight next year.
Having less picks in the draft is more than likely plannned due to salary cap restraints as players like Tuck are on backended contracts thus they proved impossible to be traded
We still have to use pick 60 because we gained it in a trade. So we won't have less picks, only less quality of picks.
You can't pass on a pick gained through a trade. That's why we knocked back the dogs pick last year and just gave away pick 56 for Paddy. The original deal agreed upon was to exchange 4th round picks.
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I am a betting man and we are ""morals"" to make the eight next year.
Having less picks in the draft is more than likely plannned due to salary cap restraints as players like Tuck are on backended contracts thus they proved impossible to be traded
And who is responsible for those backended contracts.
Whoever did that should be sacked!
Its called balancing the books to suit the salary cap, all clubs do it, part of AFL footy unfortunately
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Balancing the books lol...how about having a strategy that says Player A B C and D are not gonna be here in 12 months and lets not give em a backended deal because if they can keep up a modicum or some semblance of form we can trade them lol.
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Well players ABCDEF arent there.
Gone, Rodan, Kellaway, Humm Roach , Stafford,Chaffey, and no doubts the likes of Moore, Jackson, Limbach, McGaune wouldnt be sleeping well in the upcomng weeks
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the last time i made a big call about where we would finish i was on another forum. I said we would finish stone motherless last. I was banned. 10 months later we finished stone motherless last.
dud the spud the dud was coaching then
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Its called balancing the books to suit the salary cap, all clubs do it, part of AFL footy unfortunately
I think it also had a bit to do with Clubs not knowing 12 months ago what the salary cap for 2007 and beyond was going to be.
I mean there's a requirement that they have to pay 92.50% of the cap, no-one knew until late 2006 what the 2007 cap was going to be because the "negotiations" between the AFL and AFLPA, a club cannot afford to have all their players cvoming off contract in one season - cwertain contracts would have signed under that assumption.
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Pro-stats data on Graham Polak:
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_career?pid=2002050
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I checked out Dockerland and there's mixed views amongst Freo supporters. Some think they did well picking up Tarrant and Solomon when they are challenging for the flag in the next year or two, while offloading two fringe players. Others a peeved about no longer having a first round pick and losing Polak on the cusp of coming good and they think we robbed them by not offering a player as well in their trade with us lol. Let's hope it's the latter :pray.
http://www.dockerland.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=16379&forum=Docker_Discussions
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The idea of having numerous top 50 picks is a good one, but due to years of us (frawley) mismanaging our list - it is unbalanced. We URGENTLY needed a tall down back who is an upgrade on Hall. I don't think there is much doubt Polak is that.
I think it was a fairly even trade for both parties. A bit like the P.Bowden trade from last year. :thumbsup
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I don't mind it. The two things I would have liked ideally is,
1) To have kept pick 8.
2) To have involved Krak, Hall, Tiv, Hyde or a similar mid range player with trade value.
The Sydney approach says that trading for established players can work. I think that in getting Polak, a 70-game KP defender with something to prove we are going someway to addressing the list imbalance left by Spud.
I think that in some ways you benefit greatly from swimming against the tide. Sydney were trading away high picks for ready made players when everyone else became obsessed with them and built a very good list by using their lower picks wisely. With priority picks gone and everyone holding onto their first round picks, I think the days of picking up 6 or 7 real good kids in a couple of years (e.g. St Kilda) are behind us and you have to think smarter to get ahead.
The automatic assumption that Hawthorn will automatically be great because they are taking top-10 kids is also naive - the losing culture that group is developing will be very hard to shake. I reckon Plough and Miller are doing things just right, but we will wait and see.
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I don't mind it. The two things I would have liked ideally is,
1) To have kept pick 8.
2) To have involved Krak, Hall, Tiv, Hyde or a similar mid range player with trade value.
The Sydney approach says that trading for established players can work. I think that in getting Polak, a 70-game KP defender with something to prove we are going someway to addressing the list imbalance left by Spud.
I think that in some ways you benefit greatly from swimming against the tide. Sydney were trading away high picks for ready made players when everyone else became obsessed with them and built a very good list by using their lower picks wisely. With priority picks gone and everyone holding onto their first round picks, I think the days of picking up 6 or 7 real good kids in a couple of years (e.g. St Kilda) are behind us and you have to think smarter to get ahead.
The automatic assumption that Hawthorn will automatically be great because they are taking top-10 kids is also naive - the losing culture that group is developing will be very hard to shake. I reckon Plough and Miller are doing things just right, but we will wait and see.
Any reasonable approach can work, as long as a club has a plan and systematically works towards that.
The Swans seem to have developed a system that works for them and reaped the rewards. I’m just not sure I understand what RFC’s approach is right now.
The fact the Club threw up names for trade in the same game bracket as Polak, to me, doesn’t say that the club was trying to address the imbalance in that area? Things just turned out that way.
Instead it comes across that they wanted to fill a hole, and rather than use the long term option of the draft, opted for the quick fix of a trade. Both options have the same chance of failing as succeeding.
So it’s down to the ability of the coaching staff to get the best out of their players and also the commitment needs to be there from the players, in order for that to happen. If that doesn’t exist then I don’t think it really matters whether we use the trade or draft to build a list.
Essentially, if worked properly, any system can be effective. Some clubs just seem to be a little more calculated in their trade/draft dealings, while others seem to make it up as they go along. I’m not sure which category RFC fits in at the moment.
It’s almost like a ‘hit and miss’ approach, which seems to be reflected in the style of footy we play.
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We definitely need players in the 22-25 year range that will continue to be prime in 3 or 4 years time when we might realistically have a chance of doing something, so in that sense doing what we did wasn't that bad. Then again, I don't think much of Polhack, so I don't know. Probably would have liked to keep the picks we had but I'll sit this one out and see how it pans out.
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The idea of having numerous top 50 picks is a good one, but due to years of us (frawley) mismanaging our list - it is unbalanced. We URGENTLY needed a tall down back who is an upgrade on Hall. I don't think there is much doubt Polak is that.
I think it was a fairly even trade for both parties. A bit like the P.Bowden trade from last year. :thumbsup
Agree LC that all parties got what they were after so it was a fair trade in that sense and I'd be the first (in a queue lol) to agree with you about Frawley decimating our list :yep. I just get wary though when we recruit someone due to a current urgent need and it comes at arguably some long-term cost. Simmo and Paddy we basically got as freebies (lost Fiora and a fourth round pick in a weak draft respectively) so I don't have any problems with those trades. However Polak came at the cost of basically a 3rd round pick. Now hopefully at just 22, Polly reaches his potential at Tigerland and plays quality footy with us for 10 years. It's just disappointing we weren't able to get Polak plus remain in the third round of the draft and add another decent youngster too to add depth. Pick 60 is a low percentage pick. Drafting a Rainesy late is more the exception rather than the rule.
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I just popped over to dockerland and read a few threads on Polak. There appears to be a general concensus on the following....
Is yet to reach his potential
Has great hands and is good overhead
Courageously backs into packs to take defensive marks
Pretty good so far but then theres this....
Poor disposal by foot. :banghead :banghead
Do we need another one??
Sounds like Chubba from a few years back.
Lets hope the skills coaches work hard on his kicking. If he improves in that area before kickoff 07, then I think we have just recruited a fairly decent player.
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Pretty good so far but then theres this....
Poor disposal by foot. :banghead :banghead
I think that was more in regards to his goalkicking in recent years (?). Hopefully Plough can help with his confidence and sort it out.
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I read this somewhere.
Pretty switched on feller!
Overview
Graham Polak: 22 years of age. 195/6cms. 94kg.
- #4 2001 draft (Judd/Hodge/Ball).
- 2nd in the 2003 Rising Star, beating the like of Ball and Wells (who were playing a lot better than they are this season).
To me, it is clear he is a footballer with much potential. Drafted highly and thought upon very highly (many pre-draft had him rated as the outstanding player of the crop) as a very talented player.
Although you expect him to say it he seems to have a good attitude to coming to the club and wanting to do well. Has signed a long deal , seems to have a great attitude, wants to train hard and continue to hit the gym and becoming more imposing.
The Deal
A couple year back Polak would have commanded much more than Tarrent did today. To get him for and only (more or less) downgrading from #8 to #13, in a draft where outside the top 3/4 there is alot of good, even talent, is good buisness IMO.
From what I can work out, this is what went down. Swapping first rounders with Freo, and out 3rd for their 4th, whilst slightly upgrading our 4th via Collingwood.
In: Polak, #13, #60
Out: #8, #42
Wallace has stated: "I now regard us as having gained two first-round picks, as well as a second-rounder, in our recruiting endeavors." - more so who would have cost alot more a season or so ago. I am viewing the situation much the same.
Plough has had to choose his words very carfully after promising to never again give away a high draft pick.
Pick #13 in a strong draft, and we have managed to keep out 2nd rounder - which i think is very important and an underated top move by Miller his possie. A risk, no doubt but one well worth taking.
Miller has impressed yet again. Knew what he wanted and needed to do and did it well.
Future
All of the sudden our future spine (post Richo and co.), along with that dreaded black spot on our list – KPP, mid 20’s is looking a lot better.
In fact, a little something like:
FB: Thursfeild
HB: Polak
HF: Hughes
FF: Schultz
Ruck: Pattison
Bar Thusty the spine that looks like taking us into the next decade were all highly rated: Hughes (#24 - 2005), Pattison (#20 - 2004) Schultz (#12 - 2003) & Polak (#3 - 2002).
With Wallaces 'types'; Deledio, Meyer, JON, Raines, Polo, Tambling, etc. tall, skilled, running fleet (that he has invisioned and been modling since day dot) working the other positions – and life isn’t looking too bad.
The future, is all of a sudden alot more rosie, for some of the slightly more pessimistic amounst us, like my self.
Polak the footballer.
Does Polak have the potential to be our young, gun KPP? Our Rivers, Glass, Rutten type?
All Australia CHB material?
At 196ish he is a great hight. Polak has hit the gym hard in recent times knowing he needs to get strong and is now a good 94kg and looking to get bigger with a Paddy Bowden or Raines being able to do the job on the faster forwards.
For a big feller he reads the game very well (abit like Whitnall), has a vice like grab, and about as brave as they come.
Of course, on the other hand he might just be an out and out dud, and if so we have not had to wage too much to get the lad at the club. However, I think all the facts point to he having potential. Getting to that potential is another kettle of fish - yet Wallace has shown he could draft in the like of Paddy Bowden, Simmonds and Raines, Tuck, Pettifer and co.
Even as a forward (pinch hitting or otherwise) there is worst options. Richo (CHF), Schultz (FF) with Polak as the 3rd man might stretch a defensive.
Post-Trade week, I feel the club is in a better postion both in the long and short term than we were 7 days ago.
Forza Graham Polak.
Welcome to Tigerland.
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How Freo supporters rate Polak: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276989
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Pretty good so far but then theres this....
Poor disposal by foot. :banghead :banghead
Do we need another one??
Sounds like Chubba from a few years back.
dont know where they got that from, his filed kicking is pretty good, his efficiency disposal rating is above 85% iirc, much better than most of our list.
he can take a pack mark, he is a big body with very good disposal and courage! im starting to salivate with excitement, as i said in another post, he is the first genuine chb we will have since the ghost gym jess.
we will never be a premiership team unless we have a dominant chb, and im positive polak is the man
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Pretty good so far but then theres this....
Poor disposal by foot. :banghead :banghead
Do we need another one??
Sounds like Chubba from a few years back.
dont know where they got that from, his filed kicking is pretty good, his efficiency disposal rating is above 85% iirc, much better than most of our list.
he can take a pack mark, he is a big body with very good disposal and courage! im starting to salivate with excitement, as i said in another post, he is the first genuine chb we will have since the ghost gym jess.
we will never be a premiership team unless we have a dominant chb, and im positive polak is the man
x man,
dont know if i should be telling you this but
you talking like that has made me crack a fat!
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Pretty good so far but then theres this....
Poor disposal by foot. :banghead :banghead
Do we need another one??
Sounds like Chubba from a few years back.
dont know where they got that from, his filed kicking is pretty good, his efficiency disposal rating is above 85% iirc, much better than most of our list.
he can take a pack mark, he is a big body with very good disposal and courage! im starting to salivate with excitement, as i said in another post, he is the first genuine chb we will have since the ghost gym jess.
we will never be a premiership team unless we have a dominant chb, and im positive polak is the man
x man,
dont know if i should be telling you this but
you talking like that has made me crack a fat!
thats ok, as long as its not over me lol!!!!
but i think a few of us next year will be on constant chubbys after watching the tigers come good!!
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Talk all u want but the first test wil be his dedication over pre season.
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Edited for legal reasons
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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Talk all u want but the first test wil be his dedication over pre season.
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dont worry he wont stuff up again, he is over those other issues
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Just a reminder folks.....
refer:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=3571.msg44212#msg44212
:cheers
MT & WP
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Yes Blaisee. There will be no fat cracking over X's comments from now on....
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Why is it ok for some people to talk about "cracking fat" and yet if one of us females makes a comment about the players we are accused of being sexually frustrated? :-\
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because we are boys and we're allowed to talk in any way we want ;D on the other hand you are girls and you have to show respect for the discussion :P
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Why is it ok for some people to talk about "cracking fat" and yet if one of us females makes a comment about the players we are accused of being sexually frustrated? :-\
I think Blaisee was 'cracking a fat' over the prospect of a premiership, moreso than an individual player!
It's X's fault he mentioned the 'P' word (premiership)!!! I nearly 'cracked' one when I read his post too!
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Why is it ok for some people to talk about "cracking fat" and yet if one of us females makes a comment about the players we are accused of being sexually frustrated? :-\
because we are boys and we're allowed to talk in any way we want ;D on the other hand you are girls and you have to show respect for the discussion :P
Bloody double standards!
Today I got lectured because I was perving on a few guys that came into work... apparently I was seeing them as a piece of meat and men are more than that... ffs how many guys do the same thing and get away with it ???
Oh just so I am on topic.... Welcome to the Tiges, Polak!
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tsk tsk, you really need to respect us TG86.
Us guys can be very sensitive 8).
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tsk tsk, you really need to respect us TG86.
Us guys can be very sensitive 8).
Oh come on :P I was giving their ego a boost, they probably enjoyed it ;)
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Why is it ok for some people to talk about "cracking fat" and yet if one of us females makes a comment about the players we are accused of being sexually frustrated? :-\
I think Blaisee was 'cracking a fat' over the prospect of a premiership, moreso than an individual player!
It's X's fault he mentioned the 'P' word (premiership)!!! I nearly 'cracked' one when I read his post too!
HEY DC
i know u know this but i will tell u anyway!!!
we have won 10 premierships !!!!! LOL :rollin have the kleenex handy lol
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Why is it ok for some people to talk about "cracking fat" and yet if one of us females makes a comment about the players we are accused of being sexually frustrated? :-\
sorry jules, it maybe also cos u live in qld, come down vic way, it gets a bit more nippley here!!!!
but you know that feeling all we have to do is mention richooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
simmooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
rainseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
see, its not just for us!!! lol :rollin
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Hate to imagine what you were like then after the '80 Grand Final ;)
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Hate to imagine what you were like then after the '80 Grand Final ;)
i was only 8! and i discovered lots about the human body in 1980
that premiership, i remember it well, it was chubby galore all round. but what made that night more memorable,was, i stole my cousins fav video he had hidden, "electric blue 11", it was a xxx porn, and that day corrupted my life 4 ever in a good way though1 i discovered my true calling, RFC and s e x !
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh the good ol days! :rollin :rollin
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Oh dear :whistle :-\ :P ::) :help :whistle
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Oh dear :whistle :-\ :P ::) :help :whistle
i think its clear that we already miss our footy!
bring on 2007!
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Hate to imagine what you were like then after the '80 Grand Final ;)
i was only 8! and i discovered lots about the human body in 1980
that premiership, i remember it well, it was chubby galore all round. but what made that night more memorable,was, i stole my cousins fav video he had hidden, "electric blue 11", it was a xxx porn, and that day corrupted my life 4 ever in a good way though1 i discovered my true calling, RFC and s e x !
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh the good ol days! :rollin :rollin
Xman
This explains alot
Amber Lynn is my favourite all time movie star
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Amber Lynn is my favourite all time movie star
LMFAO!
I'm not sure that talking about porn stars is allowed. How about we talk about tea?
My favorite is DEVONshire.
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HEY DC
i know u know this but i will tell u anyway!!!
we have won 10 premierships !!!!! LOL :rollin have the kleenex handy lol
Yes I know X, I live in share accom, my flatmates always know what I'm up to when I disappear off to my room with my 1980 dvd. I can't help it, I always seem to have this guilty look on my face when I come back out again!
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LMFAO!
I'm not sure that talking about porn stars is allowed. How about we talk about tea?
My favorite is DEVONshire.
I was going to google DEVON, but then I changed my mind. :)
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what about ginger lynn
but my favs are jenna jamieson, rachel darrian and lexus!!!! these 3 are great but
premierships mean much more!!
someone throw a bucket of cold water over me!!!!
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Hey X you're posting in the wrong thread mate!
Top 10 films of all time is under 'General Discussion' :D
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Hey X you're posting in the wrong thread mate!
Top 10 films of all time is under 'General Discussion' :D
sorry, :help
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not unhappy. Polak can play key defence and basically i feel that the draft pool from our pick to about pick 15 is about even so we don't really lose out. Only bitter that Collingwood now have two top ten draft picks. :banghead
But will be satisfied if Polak becomes a gun, and we draft Collard and he too becomes a gun
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Miller said he was in contact with Polak's manager a year ago as he knew Polak was on the outer. Leading up to trade week Greg spent alot of time with Polak to get to know him better and was impressed with Polak.
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Plough is very happy with Polak so far:
"He's enthusiastic, he's done everything right so far, he's working hard, he's asking all the right questions of all the right people around the footy club to see what he can bring to the fore and it's been all good so far," Wallace said.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=308177
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I am a betting man and we are ""morals"" to make the eight next year.
Take note of the sentence and then take note of who said it lol :lol
Please explain ???
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;D
If this preseason is a guide to what Polak will deliver this year then I gladly take back what I said in this thread :shh. His form so far has been well above my expectations of him.
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Bump ;D
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The silence is deafening
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The silence is deafening
He's probably at Casey fields today. Essendon and Bendigo playing.
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I believe he's on now!
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I believe he's on now!
Oops lol :wallywink
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I believe he's on now!
Oops lol :wallywink
I won't bring this up again - it's plain to see what his motives have been lately :banghead
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:rollin :lol :rollin :lol ;D
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Polak finds his passion
Michael Gleeson
The Age
March 18, 2007
GRAHAM Polak admits he has been slow to grow up. His large frame still retains the rakishness of youth while socially he has been reluctant to forgo his teenage habits and desires.
A young man would not be condemned for either were he not attempting to be an elite athlete. Time in modern football, like timing, is precious. Those slow to mature physically and emotionally may find their time passes too quickly. Unless of course you are 194 centimetres tall and at one point the pre-eminent tall footballer in the country for your year.
"The first few years of AFL I probably didn't put on as much weight as I should have but the last few years I have really worked on it and been in the gym a lot more and eating the right foods and getting the right stuff in me to make me bigger, I would still like to be bigger and get to like 95 kilograms, which I am not far off," he said.
"I do like my social life and it is getting that balance right I think. I have a good bunch of mates so I am not going to blame anything on them but I do think the balance of getting the social life and the footy life right is something I have needed to work on as well and I think I have done that.
"I think that was one change I had to make coming over here as well which has been good so far. I don't know anyone in Melbourne so it hasn't been hard not to be distracted."
When the 22-year-old was dropped by Fremantle last year and the side went on undaunted into a lengthy winning streak that carried them to a preliminary final, it was unsurprising that the No. 4 draft pick of 2001 would be traded at year's end. Both player and club could see the logic.
"I am not sure why (the opportunities dried up last year)," he said. "I was a bit inconsistent in my playing, then my confidence went a bit. I was a keen trainer, I have always been a keen trainer, so I was doing the work, it was just my confidence I suppose was lacking. The other guys were playing really well and it was making it hard for me because they were on a winning streak, a 10-game winning streak, and it was hard to get back in the team. I thought I was in good form in the WAFL and it was just hard to get another crack.
"It would have been good to be part of it, I played the first half of the season but it didn't go my way. I thought it was time for a change."
Polak is a player of undoubted potential but football is littered with those with unfulfilled potential. Physically the query was not on knees, ankles or groin but more of bulk and strength. The true question mark was also about desire. He had a comfort level in Perth that would be best challenged moving interstate.
Several clubs expressed interest, but none as earnestly as Richmond. Aware that any new club would be across the Nullarbor, Polak flew to Melbourne in grand final week and met Terry Wallace at Punt Road. He left Wallace underwhelmed.
"Terry was not convinced that Graham wanted to come and there were a few questions unanswered I guess," said Richmond's director of coaching Brian Royal.
"There were questions over Graham I suppose — why he was out of the side and did he still have the passion to play? And Terry was not convinced he wanted to move."
So Royal flew to Perth to see Polak in his home environment and get a better handle on whether he was legitimately interested in a shift and to do what was needed to make it as a footballer. Or was he simply saying what he knew the Tigers wanted to hear?
"The reason I ended up flying over there was to sit down face to face and make sure he was leaving for the right reasons, and that was because he wanted to fulfil his ambitions in football and the potential that he had shown as a young fellow. So I probably spent four hours with him just sitting in his lounge room watching a bit of TV — the cricket was on — we just generally spoke about life," Royal said.
"I said to him 'I am here because Terry is not convinced you want to come to Melbourne', and he said to me honestly, 'Brian at the time I was not sure I wanted to move. I have a girlfriend and she has a good job. My last 12 months in footy I have started to turn things around. I have put on weight, I have started to enjoy footy again, so I was not too sure I wanted to move, but now I have had another two weeks to think about it and I want to move. I want to start a new life in Melbourne and I want to be at the Richmond footy club."
Royal was convinced and immediately rang Greg Miller to tell him. Polak became the club's prime focus of trade week, ultimately leading the club to switch their pick eight for the Dockers' pick 13 and give up a third-round draft pick. The club insists that at pick 13 they still selected the player (Jack Riewoldt) that they had wanted all along at pick eight, so the trade effectively cost them a lowly third-round pick for potentially a 10-year key position player.
"Graham was the No. 1 key position player of his year and that's why we went out and got him. I don't care what he had done in the two or three years previous, I always believed that if you were the best in your age group at 18 that with the right development and the right opportunity you should be able to be the best at 24," Wallace said.
"I thought he was incredibly down in fitness and body structure when he arrived but he has really worked hard to complete every session and show us. He has the capacity to be a hard-running player but he hasn't been that in the past.
"It is fair to say he has probably let himself down in the past. When he got to us he looked like an under-18 player straight out of the draft, where he had been in the system four or five years. I said whatever he does in the first 12 months I reckon he will be far better after that, once he starts to build up a base fitness because he hasn't had a base fitness and it has restricted him up until this stage of his career. But he has all the wares there to be able to have a reasonable engine because he is quick enough and skilled enough."
Richmond wants Polak, who is able to play forward or back, to establish himself at centre half-back, where at Fremantle in 2003 he had his best season in AFL. The move would also allow the under-sized Joel Bowden to be released to be more attacking — if that is possible — to sweep across half back and run through the middle.
"I get along well with everyone here so that has been good. They have made me welcome but I have just been focused on footy here. I don't know anyone so it is a bit hard to be distracted," Polak said.
"It is obviously a big year for me, or I want it to be a big year for me. Terry has said to me he considers it a building year but I don't think so, I look at it as a big year for me and I want to make an impact immediately. I think I have a lot to offer football. I want to show the fans I can play and the people that have doubted me before that I can play.
"I had a good year in 2003 and was happy with my year then but I can be a better player than that. I think I still have a lot more to offer and I am expecting a lot more out of myself, and hopefully the next few years and the future I can show them what I can do."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/17/1174080224828.html
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I am a betting man and we are ""morals"" to make the eight next year.
Take note of the sentence and then take note of who said it lol :lol
Please explain ???
Were ""morals to make the 8"" then .
With Simmons not doing a pre-season and Cogs injured.
In my opinion, wont make the 8 now.
Read what you want in to it,
And no I wasnt at casey fields ??? Went to Telstra Dome actually
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Read what you want in to it,
And no I wasnt at casey fields ??? Went to Telstra Dome actually
Yes, after you were on the computer. What crap!
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Dont know what your on about Moi.
I was at a party in the afternoon and went to the Dome last night ?
Why would i want to go and watch Coburg Vs bendigo anyway ??? ::)
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If we dont have a fit Simmonds this season, it will make a big difference to our team and more importantly our structure.
It will most likely be the difference between us making the finals.
We dont have any other ruckman that will give us an impact.
Makes a huge difference.
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Dont know what your on about Moi.
I was at a party in the afternoon and went to the Dome last night ?
Why would i want to go and watch Coburg Vs bendigo anyway ??? ::)
I didn't say you were at the Dome - someone else did - I said you were on here.
For someone who's a gambler, for a $100 bet I can prove you were on here ;D
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If we dont have a fit Simmonds this season, it will make a big difference to our team and more importantly our structure.
It will most likely be the difference between us making the finals.
We dont have any other ruckman that will give us an impact.
Makes a huge difference.
You're spot on, and we may not beat Carlton. But I don't think we're as bad as you and your friend have been making out. I would rather be in the direction we're going these days than we 3 or 4 years ago.
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Dont know what your on about Moi.
I was at a party in the afternoon and went to the Dome last night ?
Why would i want to go and watch Coburg Vs bendigo anyway ??? ::)
I didn't say you were at the Dome - someone else did - I said you were on here.
For someone who's a gambler, for a $100 bet I can prove you were on here ;D
Yeah, might of jumped on for a few minutes or the computer might have been left on . Whats the big deal ?? I actually cant remember ?
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Yeah, right, whatever you say, Jack. I posted something at 4.53 asking you to comment. You logged off at 4.55. Weak as piiss. Go and support the Bombers and your precious Sheedy. Where was Sheedy's support for this club when we needed him. I'd rather have Wallace and his support staff any day than Sheeds and his.
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I obviously didnt see it. Whats the big deal ?
As for being week as pee, thats your opinion and your entitled to it.
I support the RFC. always have always will.
For your info we have 3 players in OUR team of the century who are employed at other clubs. I reckon thats very strange.
As for Terry Wallace, on a salary of $600,000 a year plus, I hope he delivers a premiership at punt road in his 5 year term. Now thats $3,000,000. In my opinion, thats a lot of money for somebody who is unproven eg not a premiership coach!
I could tell you all the truth about who was going to coach the tiges before Wallace was appointed but whats the point, its in the past.
Lets all move on. I am over it!
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Yeah, right, whatever you say, Jack. I posted something at 4.53 asking you to comment. You logged off at 4.55. Weak as piiss. Go and support the Bombers and your precious Sheedy. Where was Sheedy's support for this club when we needed him. I'd rather have Wallace and his support staff any day than Sheeds and his.
moi , care too dance??
we can talk about this all night and agree and get on smashingly cos im with ya all the way on this subject!!!
we are better off with terry than sheedy, sheedy has used us all along to fatten his pay check
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I obviously didnt see it. Whats the big deal ?
As for being week as pee, thats your opinion and your entitled to it.
I support the RFC. always have always will.
For your info we have 3 players in OUR team of the century who are employed at other clubs. I reckon thats very strange.
As for Terry Wallace, on a salary of $600,000 a year plus, I hope he delivers a premiership at punt road in his 5 year term. Now thats $3,000,000. In my opinion, thats a lot of money for somebody who is unproven eg not a premiership coach!
I could tell you all the truth about who was going to coach the tiges before Wallace was appointed but whats the point, its in the past.
Lets all move on. I am over it!
I Doubt very much u know exactly how much terry is on, and by teh way, uif he is getting that much he is worth it.
in 2 years he has already made very big changes and inroads at punt road, ur just bitter cos u wont be there when we are successful. but terry will be :thumbsup