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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on November 25, 2006, 10:23:37 AM
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Shane Edwards
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Nth Adelaide 25/10/1988 179.6 68.6
Why do we pick so skinny kids :-\
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They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games
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From Bluey's post
36. Essendon - Shane Edwards
My Ranking: 46
Extremely quick and athletic small winger/flanker. Has absolutely electric pace and loves to burn his way off half back flank and through the midfield. Has a very good long kick but can tend to be a bit wayward when he tries to kick without steadying himself. Also played quite well in some senior games in the SANFL and shown himself to be a talent. At this stage requires a bit of development and coaching, but he does possess the prized asset of speed, which in today's game every club is dying to get their hands on. Great project for Sheeds to work on as an athletic player with massive potential. N Brown could be an option if they don't draft MacKenzie.
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14 - ADELAIDE - SHANE EDWARDS
North Adelaide, 25 October 1988, 179.6cm, 68.6kg
Unless Sellar falls through to No.14, expect Adelaide to snap up Edwards with its first selection. The local lad is rated enormously by the Crows and if they don't pounce now, he won't be around by the time their have their second pick at No.32, with Port Adelaide, Richmond and Collingwood just some of the clubs in the mix in the second round. The Crows will also monitor Reid, Petterd and Hislop closely with its first pick, although both players look set to be taken by Melbourne or Richmond at No.12 or No.13 respectively. West Adelaide's Chris Schmidt and North Ballarat's Shaun Grigg are not without a chance at this selection.
Highlights/achievements: Classy, quick midfielder who is smart around goals and evasive. Played 10 games of senior football this year after progressing from the U19's and represented SA at U18 level. Has excellent skills under pressure. Ranked in the top four per cent of participants in the beep test and 3km time trial at the NAB AFL Draft Camp (15.4 beep test/10.00sec 3km). From Golden Grove F.C.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=307324
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(http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/06/draft06-Shane-Edwards.jpg)
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Will be a player I reckon. Its a fair decision, a couple of players like Hislop & Djekurra were taken. Fair enough. Hes a skinny kid but we gotta get him another 8 to 10kgs over the next 2 years. A fair Selection. No complaints.
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From Weaver's phantom draft on BF:
10. Shane Edwards - Very much an outside winger with electric pace and long-kicking. Loves open-spaces and showed some toughness in the SANFL that belied his light frame. Can be wasteful when he runs too far and doesn’t steady before kicking. Has good form in senior company, finishing the season very strongly and moving up the draft board. Has no left foot which could be a problem.
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games
I reckon they are skinny because they aren't eating the foods that will build them up - e.g. lots of steaks from protein ;D and not doing the other types of training that help in the muscle area e.g the weights. This seems to the norm rather than the exception for the kids that come from interstate. Look at the kids out of the TAC cup and they are in most cases generally bigger because the program here does focus on the other areas
Guarantee you the first thing that the Club will do is set up special diets for all these kids.
If that doesn't work I'll throw 'em a BBQ ;D
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They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games
I reckon they are skinny because they aren't eating the foods that will build them up - e.g. lots of steaks from protein ;D and not doing the other types of training that help in the muscle area e.g the weights. This seems to the norm rather than the exception for the kids that come from interstate. Look at the kids out of the TAC cup and they are in most cases generally bigger because the program here does focus on the other areas
Guarantee you the first thing that the Club will do is set up special diets for all these kids.
If that doesn't work I'll throw 'em a BBQ ;D
Not at Maccas I hope WP
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
Great if it happens but it's a big call to say within the next 3 years. Gilbee was drafted in 1999 at pick 43 (same draft as Fiora :scream) and McMahon in 2000. It's taken them 5-6 years to develop to where they are now.
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From Bluey's post
36. Essendon - Shane Edwards
My Ranking: 46
Extremely quick and athletic small winger/flanker. Has absolutely electric pace and loves to burn his way off half back flank and through the midfield. Has a very good long kick but can tend to be a bit wayward when he tries to kick without steadying himself. Also played quite well in some senior games in the SANFL and shown himself to be a talent. At this stage requires a bit of development and coaching, but he does possess the prized asset of speed, which in today's game every club is dying to get their hands on. Great project for Sheeds to work on as an athletic player with massive potential. N Brown could be an option if they don't draft MacKenzie.
I know I had him a fair way down, but there is plenty to like about Edwards, and I was very pleased to get him at 26.
Runs like the wind and is classy, fits right into TW's gameplan. :thumbsup
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Not at Maccas I hope WP
:rollin
No Mopsy - a proper BBQ - big blade steaks or even T-Bones, with some marinated chicken fillets for good measure :thumbsup
My BBQ's are legendary ;D
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Not at Maccas I hope WP
:rollin
No Mopsy - a proper BBQ - big blade steaks or even T-Bones, with some marinated chicken fillets for good measure :thumbsup
My BBQ's are legendary ;D
Would you like my char-grilled salmon recipe?
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Would you like my char-grilled salmon recipe?
Considering my absolute for loathing of Salmon has been highlighted in the past on this very forum Mopsy - I say thanks for the offer but NO thanks ;) ;D
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Edwards nickname at North Adelaide was Megsy.
(http://www.nafc.com.au/common/uploaded_images//Shane%20Edwards%20120.jpg)
AKA: Megsy
Now mate, your first league game for the roosters what was it like?
It was a fantastic experience and a great honour to wear the roosters jumper at the highest level. It is also great to see others juniors like fife and maca get an opportunity to play league football.
Now growing up, who did you model your footy on and why?
As a huge Geelong fan, Gary Ablett snr was my idol. But to model your footy on him was and is difficult. (he did the impossible). Over recent years, I've admired the skills of Nick Dalsanto and Simon Black.
Now in November the AFL draft is on, you’re almost a certainty to get picked up. What club would you like to go too and why?
If I was ever lucky enough to be drafted, I would love to go to crows or power, so mum can still wash my clothes. If it doesn't happen, I'd love to keep playing at north.
Finally mate, what's going on with the hair? Do the girls like that look?
Well lads, some people colour it, some people cut it. I grow it. And as far as the ladies go, when I hear a negative comment, I’ll let you know.
http://www.nafc.com.au/news/articles/14801.asp
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Another pic of Edwards (on the left)
(http://www.nafc.com.au/gallery/pics/uploaded//P7210321B_470.jpg)
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SHANE EDWARDS: Draft pick No. 26
richmondfc.com.au
Recruited from: North Adelaide, SA
Born: 25/10/88
Height: 180cm
Weight: 69kg
Classy, quick midfielder who is smart around goals and evasive. Played senior football for North Adelaide in the SANFL this year and represented SA at the under-18 Championships. He first caught the eye of the Tiger talent scouts during a practice match in February this year, where he displayed an outstanding aerobic capacity. Had developed significantly over the course of the season and gained considerable confidence playing against men. Despite his light frame, he’s not intimidated by stronger-bodied opponents, and is a high-average tackler. Is very courageous, capable overhead and has a massive ‘engine’. Has an enormous upside as he develops physically and gains further confidence in his ability.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=2006draftees
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What are your expectations for Edwards this year and what would be a good year for him?
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Last year Edwards was a revelation for a guy thats 70-75kg to play 15 odd games in his 1st season is excellent.
I have a feeling this year that Edwards will spend more time as a forward this year.
Although he looks comfortable further up the ground he does have great goal sense and is a crumber-Something that our forward line is lacking. In the future expect him to be a key member of the midfield with the likes of Foley, Lids, Bling, Conners, Cotchin.
For a guy entering only his 2nd year and 1st full pre season he has a terrific tank and will to get to the next contest almost Robert Harvey like. He also brings the X factor With no fear of taking people on. He is an excitement machine.
Expect at least 15 games from this skinny kid with a return of 20-25 goals
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I expect he will play a majority of the year in seniors.
I hope his kicking and decision making has developed over the pre-season to the point that he will be a damaging 2nd year player for us.
He looks a special talent.
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This kid could be something really special if he sharpens his disposal 15%.
I expect him to play every game for the year predominantly up forward with occassional runs on the ball.
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There's always the chance of 2nd year blues after a unexpected promising debut season but hopefully he'll play nearly every game this year. Like 08 I think he'll spend say 70% of the time as a small forward with spurts through the midfield. He's naturally classy and got a good motor but last year he was prone to fluff his kick now and then so hopefully he's fine tuned that over summer.
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1. Put on 5 to 7 Kg's,
2. Whilst losing none of his pace,
3. Maintain the same work ethic defensively and get to the contests,
4. A goal a game on average,
5. Get 12 to 16 possies a game on average,
6. Get 70% game time on average.
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I will be expecting Shane to have a great year...if not,then he should be prepared to be roasted.
It's just our way :scream
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Will have a solid season without being a star.... I reckon will play mainly as a HFF - a bit like Krak used to with more emotion, exuberance and passion. He is a natural crumber and goodness how we need some moreof those.
At least 18 games I reckon
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important to get senior game time into this bloke will be a champion of the RFC....
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Like others have mentioned, id like to see his disposal improve, add 5-10kgs (something I have no problem doing over a weekend), and then I reckon he should be pressing for regular selection.
From what I saw he has excellent endurance and has the important knack of being where the ball is.
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RFC is crying out for a real crumber alah KB in the 80' GF. 10 to 15 possies a game kick 30 - 35 for the year would be a great year for the skinny kid.
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TRACKING TIGER’S TALENT TO INDIGENOUS ROOTS
Inside Football
February 27, 2008
By Peter Argent
With Richmond's young small forward Shane Edwards revealing has Aboriginal heritage, the list of indigenous AFL footballers has grown yet again.
Edwards takes the tally of Aboriginal players on AFL lists this year to 72 - or just over 10 per cent of the competition.
"Yes, on my mother Tara's side, we are Aboriginal descendants,” the Tigers second-year player said.
"Naturally I am very proud of both sides of my heritage.
"It is great to be a part of the Aboriginal family that has Played AFL football.
Edwards was already-a third-generation SANFL footballer before being drafted by Richmond as their second round selection (No.26 overall), making his senior debut for Tigers early last winter.
His father Greg kicked 104 goals for Central District in 1982, before losing the sight in one eye in a freak accident the next year.
His uncle Russell played a handful of games with the Port Adelaide Magpies, while his grandfather Doug played for West Torrens and North Adelaide.
Showing a willingness to work hard and back his ability, Edwards displayed plenty of character and desire in his rookie season, playing 16 games after making his first senior appearance in the Round 4 match against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG.
Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Edwards is keen to make even more of an impact this season.
“I am looking to take any opportunity by the scruff of the neck and to be consistent when I get my opportunities at the top level,” he said.
The former North Adelaide player would love to get a chance to in the middle of the ground, as he played as a wingman for the Roosters in Adelaide, but is happy to play where the Tigers need him.
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love this kid, really reckon he will make a name for himself by the end of his career. :thumbsup
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Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Good to hear. Shane was listed as 71kg last year so he's added another 5kgs over summer.
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Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Best part of the whole article. :clapping
EDIT: Touche MT. :rollin
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Haven't been so excited about the number 10 since we had a plumber in the back pocket.
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Always had a hunch Edwards was at least part Aboriginal.
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Haven't been so excited about the number 10 since we had a plumber in the back pocket.
What not Allister Scott? lol
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Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Good to hear. Shane was listed as 71kg last year so he's added another 5kgs over summer.
It looks like he has beefed up a bit in the photo from training the other day. Looks less likely to 'snap' in half now! :thumbsup
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This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
:gotigers
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This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
:gotigers
There is one passage of play i will never forget, though forgot the opposing team lol. Maybe 20 metres out from goal Edwards is sprawled on the ground, he knocks it out to a team-mate who kicks the goal. That really stood out for me. :clapping
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A gem :thumbsup
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There is one passage of play i will never forget, though forgot the opposing team lol. Maybe 20 metres out from goal Edwards is sprawled on the ground, he knocks it out to a team-mate who kicks the goal. That really stood out for me. :clapping
Was that against the Hawks?
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This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
:gotigers
Stop it. You are giving me goosebumps.
I would dearly love for one of these talented youngsters in Deledio, Connors, Tambling, Edwards or Cotchin to become an elite footballer in the AFL.
Shane is as good a chance as any IMO.
Exciting times ahead if two or three of them make it.
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A gem :thumbsup
Yes a "Diamond" at that :thumbsup
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I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed :-\. So make of that what you will.
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I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed :-\. So make of that what you will.
Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?
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will kick 20+ or become fiora mk II
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I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed :-\. So make of that what you will.
must have had a huge christmas dinner ;D
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I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed :-\. So make of that what you will.
Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?
gee Rioli has really stacked on the beef couldnot beleive the size of him & so has Michael Long
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He is a champion, he will do the things not many could do or would do or even think of doing. Looking forward to watching him play. :scream :thumbsup
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I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed :-\. So make of that what you will.
Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?
Going by the look of him good weight. He might need visit Maccas 1 or 200 times to end up like Dean Rioli lol.
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will kick 20+ or become fiora mk II
:lol
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What did we all think of Shane's game today?
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His game today reflected his lack of a preseason. Struggled to get into the game in the start. But that last qtr was something special. That chase-down tackle and that goal were highlights. This kid is something special.
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he did all that was expected of him. contributed well and was a key part of holding the ball in our fwd line and creating fwdline pressure
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Arghh the future ;)
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i know its abit of a hoodoo word around these parts but shane really does have the x factor.
something about his football thats really special. he is one young player i have total confidence in becoming a star.
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He may have spent time on the bench early on in the game but as everyone else was slowing down he was still flying in the last quarter. He's naturally got a huge tank. He just has heaps of natural ability and footy smarts. Agree blx he could become something special if he continues to work hard.
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l think he gave a good service to the side & does need some MacDonalds on a regular bases ;D
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l think he gave a good service to the side & does need some MacDonalds on a regular bases ;D
lol
Apparently the reason why he wasn't in the side to begin with was because he added weight too quickly over summer and it took the edge of his pace to find the ball. That didn't seem so yesterday especially when he chased down that Docker.
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geez i reckon this kid will be a good one after so many apparent failures. :thumbsup
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geez i reckon this kid will be a good one after so many apparent failures. :thumbsup
There's a reason this kid's my favourite player. I'm investing in the future.
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No less abilty than Dale Thomas IMO
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No less abilty than Dale Thomas IMO
Good call. Needs to be kept in the seniors to develop.
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So what did we all think of Shane's game on Sunday?
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He was good.
I liked that he was rotated through the middle.
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Got some pace and skill, that chase of about 80 metres to almost run down the Weagle was great albeit futile. Next time he'll nab the mongrel. Has abit of ticker. I like that. :thumbsup
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How did we all rate Shane's game last night?
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Before that dog Milburn pinned his arms in buried his head 6 feet under I thought it was going to be one of his best games.
Instead he was in our best but not as good as he could have been without the burial.
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Yeah and didn't Milburn then get the free? Unbelievable.
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geelong fans cried out that solomon was a thug, but how they forget what milburn did to silvagni. and what he did to "titch", just proved he is like barry hall.......once a thug, always a thug. but at least hall thuggerises big bloke, while milburn, picks on little ones like titch
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Mark Robinson on Edwards
Shane Edwards.
Had doubts Edwards could make it because he couldn't find a position for so long. His front and square effort on Saturday night was classy, but had nothing on his composure he showed in kicking his dancing, baulking, clever goal near the goal line. Any other year, it would win the GOTY, but in 2010 Buddy has that one in the bag.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
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Mark Robinson on Edwards
Shane Edwards.
Had doubts Edwards could make it because he couldn't find a position for so long. His front and square effort on Saturday night was classy, but had nothing on his composure he showed in kicking his dancing, baulking, clever goal near the goal line. Any other year, it would win the GOTY, but in 2010 Buddy has that one in the bag.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
2 words "Good Coaching"
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Yep something has changed regarding Edwards, the coaching, the player himself, the positions he has been playing in or the extra percentage he has lifted himself.
Who knows but at the moment I am really enjoying eating my words, lets hope I have many more meals ahead of myself :thumbsup
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Edwards has stumped me lately, keep lighting that rocket up his arse ;D
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
do the math or just read Infamys post again
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
do the math or just read Infamys post again
Just MYOB, I didn't quote your post!!!!!
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no such rule.
Public forum - if i dont insult you personally...!
Wouldn't hurt to cut the soul-less posts that are an obvious attempt at communication with another being
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Gee not sure I deserve all those posts against me...
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
I realise we've had a lot of early picks not go on from showing anything more than promise and yes it's easy to blame the development side of things, except we've had plenty of quality players go on to play 200+ games, so some of the blame also has to lie with the players themselves.
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Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
I realise we've had a lot of early picks not go on from showing anything more than promise and yes it's easy to blame the development side of things, except we've had plenty of quality players go on to play 200+ games, so some of the blame also has to lie with the players themselves.
Yep true and good to see Edwards has taken it on himself to hopefully improve even further.
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Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
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Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
Dead right. :thumbsup
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Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
I think you'll find it's both, especially given his small frame when drafted, he was always going to take time
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Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
I think you'll find it's both, especially given his small frame when drafted, he was always going to take time
True Infamy, reality was that he had the talent but never the size or the confidence to consistently make a difference on the field.
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Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
Exactly.
The ability was always there IMO but this kid was nearly ruined by Wallet.
He's now progressing beautifully.
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Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either and while he has played well since about round 4 he really needs to maintain his current form. It won't be good enough next year for him to take a step back like Morton has done, regardless of games played or age.
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always had faith in edwards from day dot
he has pedigree, and his only problem was wallace
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Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either
Nice of you to speak on behalf of the wider AFL community. I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
He was your #1 target on this forum for ages, so how about you just eat some humble pie and shut up on the topic. Even now you are focussing on negative "what ifs" about the bloke. Give it a rest FFS.
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Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either
Nice of you to speak on behalf of the wider AFL community. I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
He was your #1 target on this forum for ages, so how about you just eat some humble pie and shut up on the topic. Even now you are focussing on negative "what ifs" about the bloke. Give it a rest FFS.
Yeah very intelligent Infamy, I expected better from you. Apparently it is a forum and I have eaten my humble pie on Edwards for the moment!! This thread is about Edwards isn't it??? Or are we only allowed to say nice fluffy things about him now?? I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
Maybe you should watch a few more of the footy shows and listen to what they were saying about Edwards so thats what I meant by the wider AFL communinty. I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!
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I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!
Is there any sort of time frame on that WAT or is it for the rest of his AFL career, is he allowed one bad game every now and then, can he have two bad ones in a row?
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I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!
Is there any sort of time frame on that WAT or is it for the rest of his AFL career, is he allowed one bad game every now and then, can he have two bad ones in a row?
How about the rest of the year and then start off the season next year in the same form, that will do me. I can't understand why so many people bag the crap out of Lids, Tambling, Newman, Moore, McGuane and many more that are clearly more consistent then Edwards, consistent being the word, but they cop it time and time again. Edwards doesnt!!
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Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either
Interesting. I sure wasn't one of them. Have always thought Edwards was a player in the making.
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Any fool can see that Edwards has worked hard and is applying himself to the new team environment.
The word consistency is as wasted on Lids as much as Edwards.
Mindless rant.
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Edwards helps crack Crows code
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Mon 02 August, 2010
UNDERRATED at the start of the season, Shane Edwards is fast becoming a pillar of the Richmond midfield.
The lightning-quick 21-year-old has played all 18 games this year and is averaging 18 disposals, 2.5 inside-50s and four tackles a game.
Edwards is from Adelaide, so the first win over the club that his mates and family support was even sweeter, especially given Richmond’s horrible record against the Crows - the win was just the second since 1999, with the Crows winning 13 times.
And he turned it on beautifully, with 29 possessions (10 contested), eight tackles, four clearances, three inside-50s and three rebound-50s.
But Edwards was quick to credit his personal stats to the team-orientation of the group.
“It was just good to get a lot of our midfielders and half-backs getting a lot of balls, because we’re good users," he said.
“It was just a well-structured game for us - we played to the structure well, and I couldn’t be happier."
The Crows had the momentum of the match in the second quarter and piled on 13 scoring shots to just one.
However, Adelaide managed just four goals, leaving an invitation that the Tigers duly took.
“We were pretty lucky," Edwards conceded. "On the half-time siren they were going inside 50 again, but the coaches addressed it and it was good see all the players rebound from that and play a good second half.
“We were lucky they wasted a few opportunities, but I guess the footy gods were smiling on us.”
Coach Damien Hardwick said while Edwards might not get much kudos from the fans, inside the club it was different.
“He gets a big mention from the coaches - he’s a terrific young player,” he said.
“Probably a guy that’s taken a little bit of time to find his feet at AFL level, but we feel he’s making that wing position his own.
“He probably gets himself into a little bit of trouble - he confuses himself at times, going around in circles, but what he’s got is an uncanny ability to find a teammate, in and out of traffic.
“He’s become a very important player for us, and he’s having a very, very good year.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/99472/default.aspx
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As his confidence grows, so has his output. Really clever player, especially in heavy traffic.
Great story for 2010.
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Tambling has a very similar mindset - when he is confident like when he first arrived at the club and, to a smaller degree, last year he showed his class and skill. When he is down on confidence he is a liability to the team as he second guesses his ability and decisions. If Dimma and the other coaches can do to Bling what they have down with Edwards then we will have multiple Aboriginal developing stars in our side instead of the one :thumbsup
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You can safely say Richie Tambling is very consistent
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can only improve i feel.
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Anyone know why Edwards' arm was in a sling at the B&F? Post-season shoulder surgery?
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs408.snc4/47155_432876053275_298686323275_4875102_6186054_n.jpg)
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Bicep enhancement?
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Bicep enhancement?
;D
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dont anyone dare say that Shane Edwards is the future.
Is a dumb footballer who shouldnt be making basic mistakes after being in the system a number of years
Has to be traded.
Too easily pushed aside
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Here here.
Take wacko Jackson with him.
stuffing pee.
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Jackson first. FHRO >:(
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edwards first to go, for me
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edwards first to go, for me
Nope - Jackson for mine, disgraceful :banghead
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How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
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BOTH SHOULD BE TRADED and if not tradeable SACKED at the end of the season. Having said that they can take about 12 blokes with them.
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How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt
Edwards I'd want something really decent for him ;D
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How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt
Edwards I'd want something really decent for him ;D
Should of been traded last year when he was worth a buck fifty instead of pretending he was going to be and elite player...now he is worth about thirty cents...
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If that I used to get a bag of mixed lollies as a kid at the local milk bar for 20 cents.
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If that I used to get a bag of mixed lollies as a kid at the local milk bar for 20 cents.
:lol
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How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
That was most evident today, could have said that was an area that cost us the game today, but there were too many areas that did.
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How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt
Edwards I'd want something really decent for him ;D
ill offer you a packet of krispy cremes and a mars bar about all hes worth.
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Beats me how Edwards still gets a game. BASIC mistakes that cost us every week!
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We'd be lucky to get offered a wagon wheel IMHO.
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Dustin Martin gets the free kick just outside 50, Jackson sprints on after the ball which went over the back of the contest. From my vantage point he is showing every indication that he will gather the ball and play on. He gathers the ball, runs a few steps then stops and turns to the umpire..... :banghead
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Yep a minute later Ablett who laid the tackle on Jackson kicks the first goal of the last to get GC within 5 points.
Was it a 12 point play? Possibly. Knowing Jako he would've missed anyway.
We didn't get a point in the last when it was adjudicated that White kicked it out on the full when it clearly went through for a point all before it was believed it was a free to us.
All in all a shocking day.
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No Krispy Kremes, Mars Bars or Wagon Wheels clearly Edwards is worth is clearly that of a fun size boost bar,
melting chocolate under pressure, nuts equating to his momentum killing acts, biscuit pieces to shatter the psyche of your teammates and the fans all topped off with flowing wobbly caramel that pierces the soft centre of any team in need of inspiration and cohesion.
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Maybe Jackson and Edwards can be the Milky Ways b/c with them in our side we are light years away from anything. List cloggers.
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Bowel cloggers
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this boy was young raw and so skinny when he came over
but he is a footballer
and one more preseaon he will have a bigger body, and he is getting much better with his work off the balll and his defensive game
this kid will be a gun, he has footy smarts like his dad
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kicks like a cad, though.
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kicks like a cad, though.
Agree, I believe he has great potential, but when he gets the ball I close my eyes.
It feels like he rushes his decision and either butchers the ball or turns it over immediately.
Slow down and read the play, then you will really have a stronger contribution. :)
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and one more preseason he will have a bigger body,
Not buying into the argument about his ability/worth but after 5 seasons and with his base body shape I can't see him getting much bigger than he is now.
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Please
Skinny and Raw when he came over as opposed to what now? A running machine? The next Rioli?
The guy is a spud no matter how you sugar coat is.
1 descent game 5 pathetic ones
Trade
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and one more preseason he will have a bigger body,
Not buying into the argument about his ability/worth but after 5 seasons and with his base body shape I can't see him getting much bigger than he is now.
lets hope his brain grows ;D
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kicks like a cad, though.
Agree, I believe he has great potential, but when he gets the ball I close my eyes.
It feels like he rushes his decision and either butchers the ball or turns it over immediately.
Slow down and read the play, then you will really have a stronger contribution. :)
connors is the same. Jackson is just dumb though.
noticed early on a number of players caught caught when they had plenty of time, almost as if they were making concious effort to settle before disposal , but going too far.
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Edwards could also interest Adelaide....
Another Richmond Croweater, Shane Edwards, could also be of interest to Adelaide but the Tigers midfielder - who has played 89 games in five seasons - is satisfied at Punt Rd.
"I think he's pretty happy where he is," Edwards' father Greg said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/nason-could-be-crows-answer/story-e6frecoc-1226135236894
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Edwards could also interest Adelaide....
Another Richmond Croweater, Shane Edwards, could also be of interest to Adelaide but the Tigers midfielder - who has played 89 games in five seasons - is satisfied at Punt Rd.
"I think he's pretty happy where he is," Edwards' father Greg said.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/nason-could-be-crows-answer/story-e6frecoc-1226135236894
Shane is tradeable but not to wasted on a Maric.
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Definitely tradeable. His skills just really let him down, his kicking in particular. When he is in possession you do cringe because more than likely he will turn it over and it will be a costly turnover. It is a shame because he is a good mark for his size.
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in the last few games ( I didnt see the north game so not too sure about it) his inside work was very good. i think it was the sydney game it was as good as you will see.
The beauty of it was that because there was so much clearance work he was not getting those uncontested possessions wide and then buggering it up with a shanked kick
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Shane's North game was pretty good imo. I like the amount of turnovers he causes and ball he wins, too much is made of his muff ups and if he can stop rushing his disposals he will become very potent. That's Owls shoe in of the week, you can all rip the pee if it fails to eventuate coz I have no pride.
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F O L E Y
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Grow some balls Hardwick and remove Edwards from Richmond!
Edwards IS NOT a player that is going to win you a final or premiership!
Edwards is a lost clogger!
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Edwards is a lost clogger!
haha.
true...
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Willy, guess where I was a few minutes ago? Reading about Edwards at our old stomping ground :lol
Guess which genius wrote this. give you a hint, you went a few rounds with him over Tambo ;D
Shane Edwards is probably the most creative attacking player in our side. I'm sure he is instructed to take risks, which means he will occasionally make mistakes, but the good FAR outweighs the bad. Unfortunately, it seems this is only recognised by a minority of supporters - dare I say, the more astute ones
Watch in particular for goals where we have quickly moved the ball from defence &, instead of giving King, Martin, Nahas, etc the credit for finishing the move, rewind to where it started. I'd estimate that perhaps 70% of the time, you'll find that Shed was the player responsible for the goal.
There you go, guys. Edwards is responsible for nearly all our rebounding goals.....not to mention 4-5 opposition goals every week :santa
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Well Davey, if I wanted to know that posters opinion, I would've changed forums.
Maybe you can leave it there because frankly the care factor is very low here.
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Well Davey, if I wanted to know that posters opinion, I would've changed forums.
Maybe you can leave it there because frankly the care factor is very low here.
That post was to Willy, ynb, not you :thumbsup I'm sure Wilbur will get a chuckle which was the point of the post. Posts from BF get quoted every now and then, so I don't see why I cant quote some bloke from another site.
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Willy, guess where I was a few minutes ago? Reading about Edwards at our old stomping ground :lol
Guess which genius wrote this. give you a hint, you went a few rounds with him over Tambo ;D
Shane Edwards is probably the most creative attacking player in our side. I'm sure he is instructed to take risks, which means he will occasionally make mistakes, but the good FAR outweighs the bad. Unfortunately, it seems this is only recognised by a minority of supporters - dare I say, the more astute ones
Watch in particular for goals where we have quickly moved the ball from defence &, instead of giving King, Martin, Nahas, etc the credit for finishing the move, rewind to where it started. I'd estimate that perhaps 70% of the time, you'll find that Shed was the player responsible for the goal.
There you go, guys. Edwards is responsible for nearly all our rebounding goals.....not to mention 4-5 opposition goals every week :santa
You mean the one that had a browse of my private messages?
:o
And dont I have egg on myself about, Tambo! :shh :lol
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No, not Donuts :lol it is the man that has seen it all! :o
Would be happy to trade Edwards. He has let Gerks down for the last time and needs to be dealt with.
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He has. This bloke has spat in the face of my people. No longer >:(
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Posts from BF get quoted every now and then, so I don't see why I cant quote some bloke from another site.
Provided the post is only about footy post a link as a source; if it's about issues relating to another site then we aren't interested.
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No issues here, just thought the post was interesting and I thought Slick Willy would like a look at it. I love all sites :)
Gerks, are you jumping completely off the bandwagon? You were such an admirable advocate for Shane.
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No issues here, just thought the post was interesting and I thought Slick Willy would like a look at it. I love all sites :)
Gerks, are you jumping completely off the bandwagon? You were such an admirable advocate for Shane.
Why don't you write Gerks a letter? this is a thread for the masses and you are turning it into an Andrew Bolt column.
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Mate, get off your high horse. it's a football related post just like the quote was. I've posted with Greg Gerkin for a fair few years and he's always been an Edwards fan. I'd like to know if he's jumped off the bandwagon, so how about you post your thoughts on Shed instead of taking pot shots? That sound fair? Or maybe you can go through every other thread where posters haven't quite stuck to the topic and do your backseat moderating there. Your choice
FWIW, I thought Edwards was going to be a gun after 07. Looked dangerous as a small forward...too inconsistent these days and still a lightweight
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you do know that Sheds is now his nickname at the club LMFAO
a bittersweet gerks legacy
and can you please keep your love letters to yellowandback & willy to yourselves
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FWIW I think Davey sounds more like Patrick Smith....Kevin, Kevin. High horse lol
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HOw dare you
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But i digress, all this love for Sheds has been de-bunked.
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But he is right, let's keep this bad boy Edwards related
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Another one of Owls revelations. You read it here. Get stuffed.
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Edwards rightly has his critics.
However I certainly wouldn't give him away cheaply as there are a lot of positive traits to his game.
No doubt his kicking was very disappointing in the first half of this year before he cleaned it up a bit towards the end but I do think it's overstated a bit by some, mainly because his howlers, really are howlers. However he's also capable of kicking some very nice passes. Consistency by foot is his No.1 issue.
Because of this I share in much of the frustration as he's still making the same fundamental errors by foot after 5 years and at this point doubt it will change, however he's far from the worst on our list. I don't expect he'll be traded cheaply, in fact I'll be surprised if he's traded at all.
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We need at least one player that can be vented at for the entirety of the RFC's woes. I reckon keep shed coz at least he does some good things
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Shane Edwards turns 23 today :birthday
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Meet him a few times at Club 80, got to know him really well.
Great bloke, shows great leadership.
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Happy Birthday Titchey Knee :birthday May your football improve significantly in the coming 12 months ;D ;D
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I would still like to see Edwards tried as a small forward/HF. He works hard both ways and is normally a good mark for his size. For mine he is too small and footpassing too erratic for our midfield especially in the guts long-term. We need a better class of second tier mids to improve.
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I would still like to see Edwards tried as a small forward/HF. He works hard both ways and is normally a good mark for his size. For mine he is too small and footpassing too erratic for our midfield especially in the guts long-term. We need a better class of second tier mids to improve.
yeah a drifting pest forward - i recall him in a few games as a fwd if he kicked straight he wouldve kicked bags of 6 or 7 instead was usually 3goals 4 :lol nothing to lose and ur right hes too eratic by foot leave him fwd bc he moves very well in traffic
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His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking. You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
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The sooner we move McGuane there the better....
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I agree with the option of moving him to a hff even the pocket, his evasive and creative skills will be best served there. He could yet be refined as a Stephen Milne type and imo has more tricks in his kit than Milne. Yes he has blown a couple of opportunities to kick a bag, but I think the danger lies in what he can create for the runners streaming into the fwd line.
On the other hand, I also think he actually needs to get a little bit more hungry/selfish around goals, and get himself a bag of 5 or 6, it will do wonders for him.
To all of the Edwards haters out there, I have got bad news for you. Edwards needs to get better for Richmond to get better. You need to start barracking for him, I know it can be hard, I'm a fan of him but yeah he totally peed me off this year with his shanked kicks. But I also think that rfc are playing him in the wrong role if they are asking him to kick into the corridor from a hbf, that job should be left to the best kick in the side if possible.
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To all of the Edwards haters out there, I have got bad news for you. Edwards needs to get better for Richmond to get better. You need to start barracking for him, I know it can be hard...
Sorry DCrane, but I choose the 'bag the crap out of him for 12 months then hope we trade his boney a r s e' option.
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think the danger lies in what he can create for the runners streaming into the fwd line.
Valid point. That's the frustrating thing about Titch. He is gifted in many respects, hut his foot skills are just shizen. This is his last chance to step up, i reckon.
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His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking. You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
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hahahaha cant believe this spud still gets air time.
LMFAO.
5 years of rubbish
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hahahaha cant believe this spud still gets air time.
LMFAO.
5 years of rubbish
Dead right, waste of space, waste of a thread too....
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His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking. You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.
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His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking. You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.
Reckon Titch has always had a flawed kicking action, MT. Three goals in a quarter must just prove that every dog has his day. When he is under any pressure, perceived or real, at the moment of his ball drop, he pulls his right shoulder back and his head comes up and the kick can go anywhere.
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His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking. You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.
Reckon Titch has always had a flawed kicking action, MT. Three goals in a quarter must just prove that every dog has his day. When he is under any pressure, perceived or real, at the moment of his ball drop, he pulls his right shoulder back and his head comes up and the kick can go anywhere.
That's true Muscles. I'm not denying that. I guess all I'm saying is if Edwards is going to played in the side next year (which he will) then the area of the ground where his errors by foot won't be so costly is up forward. Similar to Kingy. They are flawed footballers in terms of skills but until we find/draft better players to replace them then they will continue to get games.
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I agree with MT. The place on the ground where Titch would cause us the fewest heartaches is in the forward pocket. As you say, anywhere else, he's a momentum killer.
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Half forward flank I'd say. Has the tank to run up onto the wing, and has the hands to play in the guts occasionally.
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
This makes the most sense as he will use hands more but tbh if we want to play him where it causes the least damage then put him in the 2's
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....
Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....
agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup
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Half forward flank I'd say. Has the tank to run up onto the wing, and has the hands to play in the guts occasionally.
The thing is though, how many times have we seen him running towards the 50 and shanking the kick?
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....
Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....
agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup
Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....
Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....
agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup
Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.
:thumbsup
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....
Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....
agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup
Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.
Al with Edwards i watched with eyes wide open for what is it now 5 years and applauded his end to 2010 for what i thought was a step in the right direction
His 2011 was further proof IMO that he is only getting a game because well we have no other options.
He is filling a gap much like Mcguane and Miller are untill a better player comes good. Right now its either Edwards or someone like Connors so we are kind of stuck with him.
Just on his "side steps" i dont really care who he can side step if he then kicks it straight to an opposition player. He could be Muhammad Ali for all i care but facts are he is a average footballer who is getting gifted games.
His kicking is not his worst aspect of his game, that would be his defensive pressure.
Does he know how to lay a tackle or really put pressure on opponents. Negative.
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his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.
I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.
But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.
many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)
Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.
FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.
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his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.
I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.
But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.
many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)
Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.
FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.
Usually don't like to comment on such things as everyone has an opinion and they're usually quite stalwart. But in this case you look a little out numbered so just want to pipe in and say I agree with you. The disclaimer being I'm not saying the bloke is a champion. I personally do think he has a pretty good work rate and has a knack of getting to the ball and chucking on good tackles around packs or applying enough pressure to force opponents to fumble. You're right about watching him live, he's always doing something for the team that is easily overlooked on the telly. If he improved on his delivery skills but like mentioned he would be a really valuable player. He's the kind of fella I don't mind having on the field. Certainly no gun but far from a spud.
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his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.
I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.
But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.
many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)
Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.
FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.
Haters gonna hate.
You're not alone. Good post.
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God lets all hug like Edwards groupies...
He is not an AFL footballer, never has been and never will be, stick up for him all you like, but unless he puts on another 10kilos and kicks straight he aint going to make it.
Get used to it, he is another fringe player at best and we don't need fringe players to win games...
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his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.
I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.
But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.
many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)
Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.
FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.
Good summary al
Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive.
Think people shpuld have another look at his game against the Swans at the MCH as a defensive forward; again very good inside but his kicking was terrible...sums him up really
But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list
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Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.
Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.
Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????
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All will be revealed in 2012. Edwards has well and truly served his apprenticeship, 24 years old next year. Perform consistently or GTFO. No more excuses :thumbsup
good luck Shedwards
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Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.
Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.
Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????
Seriously WAT are you reading all off the posts or just parts of them to help with your point :huh
Because you seem to be ignoring some things
I said this:
"Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive" and ended by saying "But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list"
al said:
"I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad"
So I don't think anyone is disputing that he isn't a great player or that he is going to win us a flag
As for you wanting more than 2 games highlighted how many would be enough 4, 6, 20, 30?
The point is he isn't the worst on our list.
Yes Morton is probably a better player skills wise (who went missing far too often IMO) but he wanted out so he is gone
As for others worse than Edwards? I'd say Connors, Dea (at this stage, although early), Gourdis & Graham could be called "worse" and those on par with Edwards would be Jackson & Post
Just my take
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Daniel Jackson is great. He is in the same Lord of the rings fan club as me :)
Edwards has played a few ripper games but by eff is he inconsistent. I agree that he should get a run across half forward.
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Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.
Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.
Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????
Seriously WAT are you reading all off the posts or just parts of them to help with your point :huh
Because you seem to be ignoring some things
I said this:
"Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive" and ended by saying "But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list"
al said:
"I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad"
So I don't think anyone is disputing that he isn't a great player or that he is going to win us a flag
As for you wanting more than 2 games highlighted how many would be enough 4, 6, 20, 30?
The point is he isn't the worst on our list.
Yes Morton is probably a better player skills wise (who went missing far too often IMO) but he wanted out so he is gone
As for others worse than Edwards? I'd say Connors, Dea (at this stage, although early), Gourdis & Graham could be called "worse" and those on par with Edwards would be Jackson & Post
Just my take
No WP, all good, reading them all.
I just dont see any positives to his game where athers do, some are pointing out his apparent good side as well as his bad....so there you go.
How many games you ask...highlight me more than 5 this year when you would of said..WOW he is an important part of theis team, he will help us get into finals...
Edwards has had way more, 100 times more games to prove himself then all of the players you have mentioned bar Jackson and IMO Jackson is better. At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....
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put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.
His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.
his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Exactly Al if he didn't need his feet to run you would tape them together so he couldn't kick
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At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....
Edwards doesn't have the size but he puts his body on the line every time, and doesn't give away free kicks doing it.
Better decision maker than Jackson, just as bad a kick.
I'd take Shed, but it's kinda like picking between Selma or Patty.
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It takes more courage when you are built like Edwards, and faith in your own ability, to win the ball in congestion than someone like Jackson.
Besides, Jackson is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Edwards'
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It takes more courage when you are built like Edwards, and faith in your own ability, to win the ball in congestion than someone like Jackson.
Besides, Jackson is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Edwards'
al, your last sentence could actually read....Besides, Edwards is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Jacksons'
Honestly, IMO, I think we will see Jackson get his act together more next year than Edwards...but thats what I think..
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At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....
Edwards doesn't have the size but he puts his body on the line every time, and doesn't give away free kicks doing it.
Better decision maker than Jackson, just as bad a kick.
I'd take Shed, but it's kinda like picking between Selma or Patty.
gerks, he turns it over more than he turns over for his boyfriend...his body is usually over the line...on the bench where he belongs..
Selma or patty.....haha :thumbsup
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you really believe that edwards does the same acts of stupidity that give away frees, 50s and lead to suspensions that Jackson does?
For real?
edwards hardly ever takes the wrong option, but he misses the target, generally by a long way, too often.
Jackson takes the wrong option too often, or more to the point cant make up his mind and panics, as well as missing the target too often.
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you really believe that edwards does the same acts of stupidity that give away frees, 50s and lead to suspensions that Jackson does?
For real?
edwards hardly ever takes the wrong option, but he misses the target, generally by a long way, too often.
Jackson takes the wrong option too often, or more to the point cant make up his mind and panics, as well as missing the target too often.
Stupitity and poor decision making I said.....nothing to do with suspension.
Mate we will have to agree to dissagree....Edwards worse is worse than Jacksons IMO...
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probably why edwards has a new contract and jacko is still hanging with mr cooper
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probably why edwards has a new contract and jacko is still hanging with mr cooper
Oh well if true, what will be will be....can't change the result.
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getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
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getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)
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no, he's stupid.
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no, he's stupid.
Edwards... :thumbsup..agree
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Jackson ;D
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getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)
Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.
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getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)
Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.
Agree Smokey, look both have their faults and big time IMO, game losing faults...
one turns the ball over and does "stupid" things by getting reported and the other one....
turns the ball over, gets tackled all the time, cant kick to save his life, has the body of a 12 year old girl, can't hold down a regular KP, was the man on the grassy knowl, introduced carbon tax, is responsible for world famine and really should be the chief lettuce slicer at McDonalds..... ;D ;D
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getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)
Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.
Agree Smokey, look both have their faults and big time IMO, game losing faults...
one turns the ball over and does "stupid" things by getting reported and the other one....
turns the ball over, gets tackled all the time, cant kick to save his life, has the body of a 12 year old girl, can't hold down a regular KP, was the man on the grassy knowl, introduced carbon tax, is responsible for world famin and really should be the chief lettuce slicer at McDonalds..... ;D ;D
I don't know if Edwards is responsible for world famine - he looks more like a victim of it! :o
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
:bow :cheers :clapping....pretty nicely summed up!!!!!!!
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
He is a twitter... :whistle
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I know what you are but what is he :-\
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
He is a twitter... :whistle
What is your problem? :huh
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He is a twitter... :whistle
where as you're bitter.
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He is a twitter... :whistle
where as you're bitter.
That you are a twitter to..
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
He is a twitter... :whistle
What is your problem? :huh
Hi Shane.... :thumbsup
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Leave out the insults ppl!
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
He is a twitter... :whistle
What is your problem? :huh
Hi Shane.... :thumbsup
Long time lurker here and yes I do know SHane. Good bloke and does not deserve the crap youre flinging at him. Quite a few not happy with you champ
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game.. Selective memory
People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week.
i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me..
:banghead
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well the trick is here, you don't show your cards too early or your gonna get baited like a mofo lol
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:lol
so true
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game.. Selective memory
People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week.
i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me..
:banghead
Jackson is poo compared to Edwards, and that's saying something. Edwards has the ability to be a good solid serviceable player, but for whatever reasons (injury, no pre season etc) his 2011 was backward on his 2010. Needs to get back to the 2010 form and improve on that and then WAT will shut his mouth.
Shane should be the first to admit he has shown very little in the 5 odd years he has been at the club, if he is satisfied with his performances to date than that is a worry indeed. I dont think that would be the case though.
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game.. Selective memory
People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week.
i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me..
:banghead
Some truly pathetic "supporters" out there, mate. You would think Edwards was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a smoking gun in his hand. :scream
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I'm with you Guus, stuff football ability and performance let's base our team selection and recruitment on the personality of footballers.
Don't worry about that Smokey dude he is just a trouble maker on here.
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:lol
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Edwards can play and Dimma knows it.
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Titch is on twitter....
https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
He is a twitter... :whistle
What is your problem? :huh
Hi Shane.... :thumbsup
Long time lurker here and yes I do know SHane. Good bloke and does not deserve the crap youre flinging at him. Quite a few not happy with you champ
Oh really "champ"...gee what a shame, "lurker"...mmmmm, probably a few other names for you too then.
Might be a magic bloke, best bloke on earth...doesn't mean he can play at AFL level. When he shows he can I will get off his back. Also good to see you speak for others.... :bow
Forum by the way, I can have my say lurker. Now go get some tissues and watch a re-run of Steel Magnolias with Shane!!!!!!!
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game.. Selective memory
People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week.
i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me..
:banghead
Needs to get back to the 2010 form and improve on that and then WAT will shut his mouth.
Shane should be the first to admit he has shown very little in the 5 odd years he has been at the club, if he is satisfied with his performances to date than that is a worry indeed. I dont think that would be the case though.
Yes I will...
And to think Edwards 5 years... Conca 1 year, Houli 1 year (at our club)......I honestly dont have to name them all do I....
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4th in the run today. Continuing an excellent pre-season.
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if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........
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if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........
No there won't be. Alternatively if he has a good start to the season there will be no excuses for those who've bagged him. ;)
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Alternatively if he has a good start to the season there will be no excuses for those who've bagged him. ;)
Won't that light the forum up! :o
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No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
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No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
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now that would be funny :thumbsup
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No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
:lol
I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke
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No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
:lol
I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke
Look, if he plays well enough to earn another contract or to stay beyond 2012 then great, power to him. But if he plays like crap AGAIN and we keep him.......the culture is still at the club, we accept mediocracy...
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And excuses. :banghead
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stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...
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No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
:lol
I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke
Look, if he plays well enough to earn another contract or to stay beyond 2012 then great, power to him. But if he plays like crap AGAIN and we keep him.......the culture is still at the club, we accept mediocracy...
i don't think he has ever had a crap GAME, he has had the odd shanked kick but that does not amount to a crap game.
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Nah he has stunk it up a number of times. poo kicks, pathetic tackle attempts (has hardened up now i think ;D) and getting beat by his opponent. Has played some good games as well though. Hopefully has a consistent year
man Edwards talk is boring
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I was at this man's christening and it was more entertaining than this thread :sleep
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You were not invited.
if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........
glad wrap
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stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...
Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....
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Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs
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stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...
Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....
I know you cant see any good in shane at all, but in a top team his errors would be masked to a certain extent.
In some sense he is a luxury that a top team can afford and something we probably haven't been able to in recent years.
Actually, I dont think he makes any more errors than most other players, just that some of his errors are just so diabolical they stand out like a sore thumb.
whereas Dusty can get the ball in space and look good, yet kick it straight to the opposition and no-one seems to notice.
The end result is the same , though.
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Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs
Ok, really sorry Y&b.....NOT. If the how good Edwards pre season has been :sleep crap keeps coming up then I will comment.....like it or not....
Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
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I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.
Give him a run as a small forward.
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I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.
Give him a run as a small forward.
No comment
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Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
:thumbsup
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I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.
Give him a run as a small forward.
No comment
No is negative.
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I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.
Give him a run as a small forward.
No comment
No is negative.
No means no stud muffin
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I was at this man's christening and it was more entertaining than this thread :sleep
Well I was at his conception and that was pretty boring too. Gets his kicking ability from him Mum's side of the family. ;D
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Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs
Ok, really sorry Y&b.....NOT. If the how good Edwards pre season has been :sleep crap keeps coming up then I will comment.....like it or not....
Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
:thumbsup
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stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...
Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....
I know you cant see any good in shane at all
Al, I know it appears that way mate but it's not really the case. I think its a case of he has a lot to offer but........now I can't be negative... :thumbsup
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'Tich' switch
By Paul Daffey
7:00 AM Fri 27 Jan, 2012
Richmond midfielder Shane Edwards has gained 7.5kg since last season
RICHMOND midfielder Shane Edwards has been known as 'Tich' for good reason. When he came over from North Adelaide he was so skinny he could fit down a drainpipe on the Punt Rd grandstand.
But now, after another summer of hard yakka in the gym and on the tooth, he's ready for a new nickname. Edwards has put on 7.5kg since last season, bringing his weight to 81.5kg.
Maybe he should be renamed 'Arnie' or 'Muscles', or just plain 'Eddo'.
"It's been easier to put on weight because I'm a bit older and my body's more mature," he said.
Edwards was drafted at No. 26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft. He was just 66kg when the Tigers took him on.
Every pre-season since then, he's worked on putting on weight, but not too fast. The Tigers' fitness staff warned him that an explosion in kilograms would slow him down and put pressure on his groins.
Just last year, he was able to add only 3kg over summer. This year, by which time he was 23, his body was ready to take on extra bulk.
"This year I won't be behind the eight-ball like every other year," he said. "It will just help my footy in general."
When asked whether there was any secret behind his weight gain, Edwards said his gym program had been similar to that of previous years and once again he had watched his diet.
But when pressed he added that the excellent cooking of his housemate Dan Connors, the Tigers half-back, might have helped. Connors, it seems, is a dab hand in the kitchen.
"He's a really good cook," Edwards said. "He's really smart with his nutrition."
One of the reasons put forward for Michael Tuck's longevity was that he was skinny and therefore had less weight to lug around. The former Hawk champ played 426 games, the AFL record, over a 20-season career.
If Edwards' past two seasons are an indication, he, too, is a slight footballer blessed with durability. He played every game in 2010.
In 2011 he played 20 games, missing two with a cheekbone injury after a centre-square collision in the opening five seconds of the match against the Western Bulldogs in round eight.
Edwards said the 2010 season has been his best because he was consistent. He was less happy with his form in 2011 - but there are a few weighty reasons why he might improve this season.
for richmondfc.com.au
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/128222/default.aspx
Good to see Edwards doing all he can to improve his game. The facial injury he sustained against the Dogs last year when he was put in the middle has obviously sent a sign that he needed more muscle on his frame.
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Hes still an apple turnover.
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one word, whoa, Now he's ready to join an already impressive midfield pack and really menace the oppisition, cant wait for that :shh
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lol just poor jounalism.
by my reckoning if edwards put on 7.5 kg he would now be pushing 86kg now that is funny. 7.5 kg sheesh where are the drug testers.
weighed 79 or 80kg in 2010 depending on where you get your stats from. so thats a whopping 2kg in 2 yrs.
not only that he weighed 71kg not 66kg when we took him.
while his size is an issue its his skills that are in question. why the club goes out of its way to defend players like him and put silly spin on things is beyond me.
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
Oh Dear :nope
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:whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
I am sitting in the corner rocking back and forward sucking my thumb.......... :gotigers
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
have not been back here for a while with a comment, but is my # 1 place to visit. I am going to back you here Wayne maybe not Brownlow but he has alot of potential, he has a bit of the x factor. 2012 will be his year.
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
I'm still paying 600-1, just send me your fifty now, and I will put in a trust fund. ;D
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
Oh Dear :nope
:lol
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What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
I'm still paying 600-1, just send me your fifty now, and I will put in a trust fund. ;D
;D
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Actually just to get my football fix I watched some highlights of the Freo game (bloody youtube) where we thumped them the other night. Edwards was just forward of centre, he got the ball, spun around, weaved passed one and shot a 20 metre hadball over the top to a running Cotchin who then goaled from about 30 out on the run. Very impressive, best passage of play I think I have ever seen him do. Would love to see that more often actually!!!!
Yes thats right....credit where its due!!!!! ;D ;D
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he does things like that a bit, when he is in form anyway, WAT. he is very creative by hand. It's just than when he effs up by foot it looks soooo bad.
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Edwards interviewed in Perth
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/427191/default.aspx
He wants to increase his possession rate this year.
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More an inside game last night from Titch - 12 contested possies out of a total of 16, 9 clearances and 10 tackles. Perhaps the extra work over preseason to add some more bulk is paying off.
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Thought he was OK last night. Quick and creative by hand in congestion. Has an ability to create space for other players.
Hopefully he can keep this up in the season proper
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His critics will be a bit quieter today.
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I thought he played ok and showed a fair bit in and under. His extraction work was very good and his delivery by hand was polished. Still needs to get more of the ball but very good signs yesterday.
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Was very solid. Had a few ripper handballs
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played 'ok'?... Really?
that was the best i've seen him play for ages. Was very creative in close and laid 10 tackles. If that was him playing 'ok' then his bad games must be diabolical!
pretty sure the Herald Sun rated him our best.
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played 'ok'?... Really?
that was the best i've seen him play for ages. Was very creative in close and laid 10 tackles. If that was him playing 'ok' then his bad games must be diabolical!
pretty sure the Herald Sun rated him our best.
Yep, only ok Willy. To me he showed many good signs but he is a midfielder whose role appears to be extraction from traffic and in that role I would think he needs to get more than 16 disposals over 4 quarters to be rated good. Yes, I agree it was his best effort for a while but imho he will still need to improve a fair bit to be considered one of our better footballers. More pleasing was his tackle count of 9; that says to me he is reaping some benefit from the weight and strength work he is reported to have done over summer, and if that continues into the season then we can sit back and say he is well in our best 22 but we have had a few false dawns with Edwards already so that's why I didn't get overly excited about his game. Happy with it - yes but not over the moon by any stretch.
As for the Hun rating him our best, he only scored 73 DT points and was not mentioned in the best at all in some media reports so I don't think I am alone in thinking only ok.
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he only scored 73 DT points and
and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey :nope
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His critics will be a bit quieter today.
:whistle, only because I made a committment....one NAB game, Brownlow not in the bag yet.....
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Since when do you not like Shane Edwards? Geez you flip flop ::)
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he only scored 73 DT points and
and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey :nope
Sorry Gerks, please accept my most humble apologies. :bow
;D
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he only scored 73 DT points and
and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey :nope
Sorry Gerks, please accept my most humble apologies. :bow
;D
apology accepted if you make this your avatar ;D
(http://bit.ly/xPrI4K)
smokey indeed
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Since when do you not like Shane Edwards? Geez you flip flop ::)
:help :whistle
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Edwards was one of few highlights from our performance last night.
I hope he makes it because he brings others into the game. We don't have enough players who can do that
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Ok round 1 .........stuffing useless, 1 good tackle, 1 good pass! This guy is stuffing pathetic..... I have waited all preseason, well he tore up the preseason track..... :scream
stuffing worse player in the team!!!
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Whatd we make o jacksons game
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Whatd we make o jacksons game
*toilet flushes*
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Edwards was not the problem
Foley tuck Jackson.nahas vickery and miller all did sweet fa
Foley tuck and Jackson should never play again.... Bad disposal bad decision makers they are poo
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Foley was much better than you think.
Jackson and Edwards are the whipping boys.
Edwards is this. When the game is hot and in dispute he is fumbly, indecisive with poor disposal and critically turns the ball over. A classic example set shot from 40 in the first quarter misses. If we were 8 goals up against Freo at the G 28 mins into the last quarter he kicks it and those Edwards admirers say but he has great skills and composure. For them I say take a look at the first and third quarters of our game against Collingwood last year and let the prosecution finally rest please. :help
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Foley our problem?? Gee I've heard it all now
The margin would've been 100 if weren't for him and Cotch
Get your glasses of X. Bottom tier of Edwards, Jackson, Tuck, Post etc are our problem
They are collectively as good as my white ass after a bout of diarrhea.
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Foley our problem?? Gee I've heard it all now
The margin would've been 100 if weren't for him and Cotch
Get your glasses of X. Bottom tier of Edwards, Jackson, Tuck, Post etc are our problem
They are collectively as good as my white ass after a bout of diarrhea.
Bottom tier is shortening each year.
3 years ago Jackson was one of our more important players, the list is improving talent wise, slowly.
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Whatd we make o jacksons game
Crap.
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Foley was much better than you think.
Jackson and Edwards are the whipping boys.
Edwards is this. When the game is hot and in dispute he is fumbly, indecisive with poor disposal and critically turns the ball over. A classic example set shot from 40 in the first quarter misses. If we were 8 goals up against Freo at the G 28 mins into the last quarter he kicks it and those Edwards admirers say but he has great skills and composure. For them I say take a look at the first and third quarters of our game against Collingwood last year and let the prosecution finally rest please. :help
Thank God someone else see's this, he was a disgrace last night, he bad very far outweighs his.......well he doesn't have a best.
Bag Jackson yes, but gee have a real good look people at this guy too. He will not be part of a GF team at this club.
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Did Edwards play? ;D
Noticed him about half a dozen times for the entire game.
He was poor like so many others
We continue to rely on too few needing to do too much
But like Jackson, Edwards wasn't the worst as that had to be Post & Vickery
And as I said that is an indictment on last nights game
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Really there were very few standouts last night. The ball was hard fought and contested almost the whole game so few players could be sighted. There were a few acts of individual brilliance Yarran's :clapping and Jack's :clapping goals but most players were swallowed up in the packs.
I can't remember seeing Edwards do much and Jackson did a few ordinary kicks. Miller started with a bang but our forwards weren't really given a chance because of midfielders couldn't get any space close to the 50 to deliver it to them. It was mostly all long bombs from out the back of a pack. This gave the defenders more than a=enough time to spoil and congest the forward arc. Vickery was anyother who suffered from this.
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Vicks had a stinker. He had numerous oopporutnities to impose himself but just couldn't clunk em. Needs to lift.
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cant keep carrying edwards and Jackson as part of the midfield rotations, they are super bad.
Who can replace them? Conca and Batchelor straight in. Who else? Helbig needs to come on, hopefully Arnott builds up his tank and can start getting some games as a sub. We need more foot soldiers!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3C5FuamH6Y&feature=g-vrec
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After watching that I now believe he's a great player. ;D
Wonder if General Donut will make a highlight package of all his howlers.
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OMFG Edwards management team have worked overtime on that one :lol they must be hoping to add a few extra zero's to his new contract for next season ;D
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Liked him as the sub. Looks good in green and had a bit more impact than Greg.
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I want to see Greg get one last crack at it. Not as sub. Give him 4 quarters.
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I want to see Greg get one last crack at it. Not as sub. Give him 4 quarters.
I hope he gets "one last crack" too Coach.....but when he does it will last a lot longer than the end of this season.
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Righto Shano, time to make me get on the big rolling turd of appreciation for you, it's steaming at the moment.... :whistle
Show me what you are capable of......NIKE.....JUST DO IT!!
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Didn't you watch the Sydney game?
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Didn't you watch the Sydney game?
Just stop it...
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Is that a yes or a no?
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:bow
Is that a yes or a no?
Well....um....I don't care, I want to see it live....and for over more than 20 minutes a games, week in week out.
I am laying down the gauntlet to him, lets see it Shane.
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Answer the stuffing question
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Unbelievable
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aww gee
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aww gee
X2.... ;D
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If you'd watched you'd know you're not going to get much more than a role player :lol
But throw down your gauntlet barnacle bill :lol
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If you'd watched you'd know you're not going to get much more than a role player :lol
But throw down your gauntlet barnacle bill :lol
:lol, it's down and to ease your pain, no i didn't watch it, bloody Perth crap TV... :banghead
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NO EXCUSES
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We all need to get some sleep. especially me
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God, just got to the hotel......who wants a beer.... ;D
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
I wouldn't go as far as a "very good game", he was serviceable (20 disposals, 4 marks, 1 tackle). Dea and Batchelor had 14 disposals, 3 marks and a couple of tackles a piece, not far short of Edwards but I don't think anyone would say they had a good game. Same as Edwards, they were serviceable IMO.
A very good game, again IMO, constitutes something like Maric who had 17 disposals, 4 marks, 28 hitouts, 3 tackles and a goal.
Source: http://finalsiren.com/MatchDetails.asp?GameID=5891&Code=062b9a38e4ffcfa26fb986c237122aba
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
Continues to torment alright......one "serviceable" game, gee look out....love it.
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you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment :lol
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you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment :lol
By the sounds of it neither did others, but I did listen to it.. :thumbsup
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you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment :lol
Turkey Sammich.
Hey WAT, how come yo no watch dem matches yo JIIIIIIIIVE Turkey?
In all seriousness though, Edwards was very very good against Skidney.
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
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he had a hand im many goals for us , had a dam good game v sydney and that look away handpass was orgasmic!
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he had a hand im many goals for us , had a dam good game v sydney and that look away handpass was orgasmic!
:clapping
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you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment :lol
Turkey Sammich.
Hey WAT, how come yo no watch dem matches yo JIIIIIIIIVE Turkey?
In all seriousness though, Edwards was very very good against Skidney.
:lol :thumbsup
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I'll play the mediator in this thread, and say that let's all reserve judgement on Edwards until during or after the Saturday nights game.
LET THE CARDS FALL WHERE THEY MAY
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I'll play the mediator in this thread, and say that let's all reserve judgement on Edwards until during or after the Saturday nights game.
LET THE CARDS FALL WHERE THEY MAY
Cmon, even I reserved judgement, two bloody years ago I and many more "reserved judgement" but ok I will do it for a 3rd year in a row.
FFS I even kept my mouth shut about him leading into the season proper and then he completely let the club down....
Here we go again.
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and then he completely let the club down....
He what?
Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
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and then he completely let the club down....
He what?
Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
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and then he completely let the club down....
He what?
Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
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WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page :shh
:outtahere ;D
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WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page :shh
:outtahere ;D
:lol
Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.
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and then he completely let the club down....
He what?
Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
Yes it does. But things would appear to be coming to a head now, so I think it's only
reasonable to proceed on a ' reasonable' basis
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and then he completely let the club down....
He what?
Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
Yes it does. But things would appear to be coming to a head now, so I think it's only
reasonable to proceed on a ' reasonable' basis
One game no, after the dreamtime, performance based, yes.
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WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page :shh
:outtahere ;D
:lol
Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.
Fair enough, me too :thumbsup ;D
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WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page :shh
:outtahere ;D
:lol
Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.
Fair enough, me too :thumbsup ;D
:thumbsup.....go Shane!!!!!
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hey wat pngq shaka man? imagine edwards gets bog tom nite lol , could u handle that hahahaha
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Bump.
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
No idea tony. Don't you rate those 12 possie games?
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
Posted this in another thread.
You want to know why Titch gets a game?
He does do what the coach asks of him every week, follows the game plan and works his frikin behind off for his team mates.
His work off the ball is what a lot here don't see. The unglamorous stuff that any coach loves in footballers.
Covering for players, standing in gaps, pressurising the opposition, working the corridor up and down..
He has an excellent tank and busts his behind defensively all game when guys like Martin, Maric & Riewoldt are sucking for air at the end of a match.
Another of Shane's strengths is that he takes risks. This can look bad if it goes wrong which many focus on but equally it can look fantastic when it comes off.
His hands are elite. Unlike someone like Jackson, Edwards has a VERY good footy nous and regularly sets up play which results in attacking passages of footy for the Tiges. When Cotchin kicks that goal, the guy who gave it off is often Shane.
Sure he has weaknesses. His footskills do let him down too often and he's not winning enough of the pill but he is nowhere near as bad a player as he's portrayed as by some on here otherwise he'd have been delisted as one of the 30 odd players who've departed in the last couple of years.
He may be upgraded in time but for now he is in our best 22 and still may improve yet.
Dimma's a fan and he's popular with his team mates.
Hope he has a great season culminating in playing finals.
Some of us actually do appreciate him.
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
No idea tony. Don't you rate those 12 possie games?
Nah I'm hard to please, I rate the 17-18 possie games
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:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
Posted this in another thread.
You want to know why Titch gets a game?
He does do what the coach asks of him every week, follows the game plan and works his frikin behind off for his team mates.
His work off the ball is what a lot here don't see. The unglamorous stuff that any coach loves in footballers.
Covering for players, standing in gaps, pressurising the opposition, working the corridor up and down..
He has an excellent tank and busts his behind defensively all game when guys like Martin, Maric & Riewoldt are sucking for air at the end of a match.
Another of Shane's strengths is that he takes risks. This can look bad if it goes wrong which many focus on but equally it can look fantastic when it comes off.
His hands are elite. Unlike someone like Jackson, Edwards has a VERY good footy nous and regularly sets up play which results in attacking passages of footy for the Tiges. When Cotchin kicks that goal, the guy who gave it off is often Shane.
Sure he has weaknesses. His footskills do let him down too often and he's not winning enough of the pill but he is nowhere near as bad a player as he's portrayed as by some on here otherwise he'd have been delisted as one of the 30 odd players who've departed in the last couple of years.
He may be upgraded in time but for now he is in our best 22 and still may improve yet.
Dimma's a fan and he's popular with his team mates.
Hope he has a great season culminating in playing finals.
Some of us actually do appreciate him.
Hes average, by 70/80 games in a career, you should be showing something.
Weaknesses have outweighed his strengths as a player to date.... unreliable kick, unreliable decision maker, doesn't get it enough for the tank he possesses, and is not strong enough physically to exploit his biggest strength - his awareness and vision in close. I was a fan when we first drafted him as I'm a fan of gut runners, unfortunately sometimes players don't come on ala tambling, I gave up on Edwards finally last year early in the season against the pies when in the space of 5 mins he had 3 shots on goal for a grand return of 1 behind..
gg
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hey wat pngq shaka man? imagine edwards gets bog tom nite lol , could u handle that hahahaha
Haha, I will be very happy if he contributes to a win. :thumbsup
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What did we all think of Titch's game today? 16 possies for 3 goals, 2 assists in goals, 5 inside 50s and 5 tackles. One positive on a dark day?
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Shane is earning his spot and getting plenty of cheers in the Ekto household.
:clapping
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Better than average far from our worst for a change
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Has had a good month Titch. :thumbsup
My only fault on him today was in the first when he snapped with the outside of his right foot from 20 metres and the ball fell in the square rather than use his left foot and drill it.
Evading the Freo players with a blind turn on the members half forward flank in the last and finding Tuck who kicked the goal was great stuff.
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Shane is earning his spot and getting plenty of cheers in the Ekto household.
:clapping
We are quite pleased with the SHED, has done a good job so far. Is playing with more confidence and is taking risks.
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Was our cleanest player in the conditions today, is creative and shows flair! Can't fault his game at all today.
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This thread went very quite over the last month.
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.
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po claw
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.
And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players :wallywink
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Can't fault him again
We asked for consistency now we are getting it
Given a choice between Nahas and Edwards I know who I'd rather now
Nahas and Maric can go to Coburg and stay there
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Thought he was one of our better players today and probably our cleanest player skill-wise.
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Yep, was very clean where everyone else was fumbling
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Titch has always had good skills with evasion, and swooping on loose ball even intercepting marks. Now he is using it really well and busting through when he does get into the clinches. Great stuff.
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Well done 'Shed' :thumbsup
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clean with his hands yesterday
and came to play unlike some players.
gets a bad rap sometimes.
:sleep
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3 goals and set up Tuck's goal in 4th quarter. Played a very good game. One of the few who looked dangerous when had the ball
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Yep, probably one of the best next to Cotch and Morris....4 good games in a row, might actually ake it provided he is left in the forward line.
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Can't fault him again
We asked for consistency now we are getting it
Given a choice between Nahas and Edwards I know who I'd rather now
Nahas and Maric can go to Coburg and stay there
I agree Daniel.
What I've liked most about him this year is that he's added a bit of mongrel into his game. :thumbsup
nanas has done well for himself has had some great games for us & is small and tiny enough to get many high head tackles that help him impact games. Players like him rarely have any impact come finals.
Mini maric will be known for his one great tackle to help win the game against the saints. He may well be another one hit wonder.....and he's a Melbourne fc reject... Enough said.
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nahas is overated
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Yep, probably one of the best next to Cotch and Morris....4 good games in a row, might actually ake it provided he is left in the forward line.
cotchs first half was out right pathetic and disgusting, many of his poor decisions and disposal cost us badly in the first half
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I've always been a fan of Edwards in the forward line.
I remember a game of his against Brisbane at the Gabba and kicked 2 'goal of the year' type goals. He has good goal sense, good fwd pressure, has as a great leap and decent hands and is good from a set shot.
I really like Edwards up forward.
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never been a fan personally, but he is in the best form of his career
gifted 70 of hid 100 games so far, so its about time
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never been a fan personally, but he is in the best form of his career
gifted 70 of hid 100 games so far, so its about time
incorrect.
he played about 8 blinders toward the end of 2010 then disappeared for 2011
lets hope he stays in the F50, as that seems to be where he can do the most damage and also reduce the damage he causes with his eratic disposal
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Having a beakout year, spells d a n g e r when he swoops on a loose ball in the forward line...too often he' s the only one looking likely :huh
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Having a beakout year, spells d a n g e r when he swoops on a loose ball in the forward line...too often he' s the only one looking likely :huh
Having a good last month BJ is not a breakout year.
Yes his performances since Dreamtime have been heartening but needs to raise his game higher and that's not being critical.
We'll revisit the term "breakout year" and who it applies to on our list after the Carlton game.
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Titch has kicked 10 goals in his last 4 games playing the mid-size forward role ....
Shane shines
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 12 Jun, 2012
Shane Edwards has reinvented himself as a dangerous, medium-sized forward in his sixth season of AFL football.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/138385/default.aspx
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Been very good of late. He has obviously picked up his defensive forward pressure too or Dimma wouldn't have him playing forward. With Jack and Vickery down on form we need as many avenues to goal as possible
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His critics are quiet.
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I'll admit that I wanted him delisted at the end of last season.
How wrong was I.
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Could be up to 12 Brownlow votes after this weekend :shh
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I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks. I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.
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Could be up to 12 Brownlow votes after this weekend :shh
Way ahead of you
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?
I just got a feeling about him...
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I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks. I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.
Total under-representation. Compare his stats last 4 weeks against any other small forward in the comp, he is out ranking them all.
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I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks. I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.
Total under-representation. Compare his stats last 4 weeks against any other small forward in the comp, he is out ranking them all.
Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head
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Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head
It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.
And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players :wallywink
good for you keep on backing them in.
i dont see why others get antsy when a player like edwards is not rated. for a small hes taken an inordinate amount of time and 4 games yes at least i do acknowledge when he goes alright does not forgive his previous 5 or 6 yrs.
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one. in what other walk of life are people so tolerant. even after having their heads kicked in repeatedly on numerous occasions by player like edwards who give a little block of good games only to revert back to his level yet as soon as a godd game or two happens out come the supporters proclaiming him all over again.
mate im not the silly one.to win me over he will have to break the chain and actually become a good consistent player.
he is atm the best small forward we have but the real question is will he sustain it for ant decent period of time. to date thats not happened.
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Synopsis please. K thnx
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Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head
It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.
:lol
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Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head
It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.
na he is better looking than me lol
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please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one.
Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.
A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.
I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.
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please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one.
Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.
A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.
I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.
So how's Tucky going in your view magic? :whistle
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So how's Tucky going in your view magic? :whistle
Same old Tucky with same old strengths and flaws.
Better support cast these days.
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please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one.
Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.
A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.
I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.
So how's Tucky going in your view magic? :whistle
No matter how well Edwards is going, Tuck is still 5 times the player.
;D
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please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one.
Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.
A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.
I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.
So how's Tucky going in your view magic? :whistle
No matter how well Edwards is going, Tuck is still 5 times the player.
;D
No arguments there!
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Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.
says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.
And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players :wallywink
good for you keep on backing them in.
i dont see why others get antsy when a player like edwards is not rated. for a small hes taken an inordinate amount of time and 4 games yes at least i do acknowledge when he goes alright does not forgive his previous 5 or 6 yrs.
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.
in many way i think im the normal one. in what other walk of life are people so tolerant. even after having their heads kicked in repeatedly on numerous occasions by player like edwards who give a little block of good games only to revert back to his level yet as soon as a godd game or two happens out come the supporters proclaiming him all over again.
mate im not the silly one.to win me over he will have to break the chain and actually become a good consistent player.
he is atm the best small forward we have but the real question is will he sustain it for ant decent period of time. to date thats not happened.
We all want a team of Judds and Abletts, but the reality is its impossible.. If you take off your self righteous glasses off and see that players not of the calibre AFL legend do actually play the game and win premierships..
As you may not be aware there is a salary cap in place in the AFL and so therefore that means the club has to balance paying eleite players with players that arent and still have the ability to field a team that can win... Yes it means that not all players will be elite no team can afford to pay them.. Yes when you dont have many elite players it means some players will be payed more than they're worth. And yes it does mean players like Shane Edwards will get games.. As long as he's improving, as i think he is, and contributing to the team and a team player he has his place in the team..
Shane is a solid contributor, follows team rules and does the job he is asked,, hence he is in the team.. Better to have a team player that lacks in a couple of areas then to have a champ that only looks after himself..
:thumbsup
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Gone past gibbs yet? 8)
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Ok.........yes he has played 4 good games, yes perhaps they have found his true position in the team because he can't really turn the ball over where he is. But in one on ones he is still hopeless. Watch the contest against his opposition player in the forward pocket from last week.....rag doll....
But credit were it is due, he is playing well at the moment in the position he is in!
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Ok.........yes he has played 4 good games, yes perhaps they have found his true position in the team because he can't really turn the ball over where he is. But in one on ones he is still unless. Watch the contest against his opposition player in the forward pocket from last week.....rag doll....
But credit were it is due, he is playing well at the moment in the position he is in!
Anymore rag dolled than Nahas gets?
he's a small player and most small players get rag dolled.. Remember Gary Wilson, Robbie Flower and even our own KB. When they were grabbed they were rag dolled.. Shane has evasion skills and much better evasion skills than our other small forwards i might add.. Finding an instance of something on the replay can be done with any player.
Some really pick the poo of players.. Yes i'm a glass half full.. Although i have called some players to be culled over the years
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Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.
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What's the go with his knee(???)?
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Did he come back on after that injury?
Hope he doesn't cop anything for the umpire thing.
Tony Shaw mentioned it like 4 times. Idiot.
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He never came back on from what I saw. Re: the ump thing, the Fox team reckon he'll just get a phone call during the week :pray
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He never came back on from what I saw. Re: the ump thing, the Fox team reckon he'll just get a phone call during the week :pray
You mean Shaw reckons. lol
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Dunno lol. Game was giving me the poos so I chucked on the new Garbage album and only heard snippets of commentary :laugh:
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did see edwards back on late in the game
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Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.
If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.
Tucky :bow
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Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.
If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.
Tucky :bow
Tuck also played well.
Our best player yesterday in conditions that suit his game to a tee.
However this is the Edwards thread.
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Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.
If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.
Tucky :bow
Tuck also played well.
Our best player yesterday in conditions that suit his game to a tee.
However this is the Edwards thread.
Yes it is......isn't every thread for you an Edwards one.....:)....
Played well but again.....rag dolled more than any player....even Nahas...
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I'm not sure what the point is WAT?
He gets rag dolled like Ivan Maric gets out run by opposition mid fielders or Nathan Foley gets out marked by opposition kpp's in one on ones
What he is doing is making a big difference to our forward line, btw anyone see the goal he set up for Tuck last week?
You can't teach that, therefore it is worth panels in helping to generate scores when playing against good defensive teams.
Very important in finals football.
What is perfectly valid is that he has done is for 4 weeks as consistency is the biggest issue or him and most of the team.
Fix that and he becomes very important, can see 22 games at the current level delivering a 50 goal season.
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I'm not sure what the point is WAT?
He gets rag dolled like Ivan Maric gets out run by opposition mid fielders or Nathan Foley gets out marked by opposition kpp's in one on ones
What he is doing is making a big difference to our forward line, btw anyone see the goal he set up for Tuck last week?
You can't teach that, therefore it is worth panels in helping to generate scores when playing against good defensive teams.
Very important in finals football.
What is perfectly valid is that he has done is for 4 weeks as consistency is the biggest issue or him and most of the team.
Fix that and he becomes very important, can see 22 games at the current level delivering a 50 goal season.
Well don't take his game in to account from yesterday too much.......apparently it was only GWS....
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Played well but again.....
His form really is making you look foolish isn't it.
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Played well but again.....
His form really is making you look foolish isn't it.
Totally foolish, :thumbsup
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edwards is kicking arse at the moment i hope his knee is ok as he did get injured
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Continually improving his play and trade value ....
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Wish he kicked straight but again is showing good goal sense
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Continually improving his play and trade value ....
Dont think he'll be traded darth, likely to be our second highest goalkicker this year...and has become our most dangerous small forward...trades are generally for those surplus to our needs ::)
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So folks....what do we think of:
Shanes year to date?
Should/could he be traded (regardless of his re-signing)
Will he be a big part of the team next year if he stays?
Any other comments??
I think he really hit a purple patch for about 4 weeks this year and has since died off again, that is his major problem IMO, he just can't string it together. I did notice when I watched him against the Lions that he is quick with his hands ( ;D) and does have some talent. But his slight frame is his hinderance, he was very easily bumped off the ball or simply out muscled by Lions players.
I have alway said I wouold love to see him make it but at this point in time, after many years I think we need to bite the bullet if a trade is offered.
Sorry MM, but we can't keep him for another year IMO.
I also think that Hardwick loves him too much so he will stay!! :-\..........could see the one nail in the Hardwick coffin next year if he hangs on to players like this..I am not calling for Hardwicks head BTW!!!!!
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Edwards is still improving and to remind you has just signed a new deal. Not going anywhere WAT/PNGQ. 8)
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Edwards is still improving and to remind you has just signed a new deal. Not going anywhere WAT/PNGQ. 8)
I don't think he is based on the last 5 years...
New deal or not he is still tradable (another club would just pick his contract up....ala Holland!!).....and I did say Hardwick loves him.......did you read my post MM... :whistle
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Im not a fan tbh. Since he went fwd, hes probably close to career best form, but this is his second good patch in 6 yrs? Problem is this rich vein of form for him has him in our bottom 6 in our 22 tbh, I dont think he's anywhere near our top 15. He's the type of player that could quite easily be upgraded with a pick at the near the end of the draft. Got to ask, do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no
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Im not a fan tbh. Since he went fwd, hes probably close to career best form, but this is his second good patch in 6 yrs? Problem is this rich vein of form for him has him in our bottom 6 in our 22 tbh, I dont think he's anywhere near our top 15. He's the type of player that could quite easily be upgraded with a pick at the near the end of the draft. Got to ask, do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no
Would have to agree, in particular your last comment..."do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no"
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So folks....what do we think of:
Shanes year to date?
Should/could he be traded (regardless of his re-signing)
Will he be a big part of the team next year if he stays?
Any other comments??
I think he really hit a purple patch for about 4 weeks this year and has since died off again, that is his major problem IMO, he just can't string it together. I did notice when I watched him against the Lions that he is quick with his hands ( ;D) and does have some talent. But his slight frame is his hinderance, he was very easily bumped off the ball or simply out muscled by Lions players.
I have alway said I wouold love to see him make it but at this point in time, after many years I think we need to bite the bullet if a trade is offered.
Sorry MM, but we can't keep him for another year IMO.
I also think that Hardwick loves him too much so he will stay!! :-\..........could see the one nail in the Hardwick coffin next year if he hangs on to players like this..I am not calling for Hardwicks head BTW!!!!!
downhill skier
will beat his man comfortably tomorrow but hey its Buldogs and he along with the other spuds will be jumping up and down like superstars
6 good games at the end of the 2010
7 good games in season 2012, including tomorrow and Port
90 spud infected games.
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Trade bait.
He would be perfect for a team topping up for a flag.
On a HFF or forward pocket getting his two goals a game and 15 touches in a really good side where his mistakes or momentum kills don't stick out as much he'll be perfect.
This will only confirm also that some on here would lament how good he is and why we should have perservered beyond the 6 seasons we have.
HFF forward line is his best position. Not a midfielder not anything else.
Trade him now while he has value.
Gold Coast could use him and we could us Caddy. Let the clubs then mull over what picks change hands.
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers
IMHO TFS I don't think so but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is fine. :thumbsup
I just feel that I have seen enough of Titch and he hasn't come on the way I would have liked him too. He had that patch mid season where he looked good but for me he isn't consistent enough goes missing in games for periods and does not impact the game the way he should the way a B Grader in a side should which IMHO is they way that some on here are spruiking him but again that is opinion from both parties.
I feel there is not much more upside to Titch and possibly having played some better footy earlier in the year maybe now after 6 seasons on the list may be the time to get him on the trade table and try and upgrade on Titch. Whether he is in the side or not he makes no overall difference to the end result of our side against the middle and lower ranked sides and if we can make an upgrade on that whether its a like for like player or a trade for a mid or a ruckman or a KPP or even a draft pick.
Just my take on things boys. :thumbsup
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers
IMHO TFS I don't think so but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is fine. :thumbsup
I just feel that I have seen enough of Titch and he hasn't come on the way I would have liked him too. He had that patch mid season where he looked good but for me he isn't consistent enough goes missing in games for periods and does not impact the game the way he should the way a B Grader in a side should which IMHO is they way that some on here are spruiking him but again that is opinion from both parties.
I feel there is not much more upside to Titch and possibly having played some better footy earlier in the year maybe now after 6 seasons on the list may be the time to get him on the trade table and try and upgrade on Titch. Whether he is in the side or not he makes no overall difference to the end result of our side against the middle and lower ranked sides and if we can make an upgrade on that whether its a like for like player or a trade for a mid or a ruckman or a KPP or even a draft pick.
Just my take on things boys. :thumbsup
Well your wrong. But that's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it ;)
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
Good post. Edwards critics will end up looking dumber than than already do.
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
Good post. Edwards critics will end up looking dumber than than already do.
yeah 6 years later and 180 spud filled games later. hahahaha keep telling yourself that pal.
I bet you were one that kept saying Tambling would come good too
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Plays every game, rarely misses a target, such a creative type, lucky to have him on the list. Well done FJ :clapping
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why is edwards still copping poo, has improved every yr and is a fine player, very underrated, better than nahas and king combined
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6 yrs on the list.
Definentely not an A Grader or a B Grader.
So what do people think he is.
I think he is a C grader.
You can improve slightly each year but he is still a C Grader.
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Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.
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Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
sheesh top 10 top 5 what does it mean.
over the yrs ive seen a train load of very ordinary rfc players finish top 10 in the b&f.
edwards now lets see.
start of the yr i was calling for his head. his first 5 or 8 games were ordinary. thnk it was the sydney game he had a reasonable game playing mainly midfield. following week they moved him forward and imo hes been pretty decent ever since.
hes been very good in two or three games in that time, and has not imo dropped below standard apart from maybe the gc game.
atm he is the small forward and should be the only one.
to me his big challenge is now to finally produce consistent up to standard footy, not just a block of 6 or in this case 10 11 games, but injuries permitting consistent seasons on end.
the bar is set and while all players have the odd howler, we should not be accepting consistent performances that are below standard.
this is my concern with him will he slip back to what may be his natural level. next yr will tell us all.
with close to 100 games and not far off 24yrs of age he should be a leader at the club. should be setting an example with good consistent performances. he needs to prove hes at least a good consistent player at the level. sad tht we are still saying that after 6 yrs and so many games.
would have cut him at the start of the yr hes earnt a reprieve for another season.
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Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.
Good for them Gerks.
Still a C Grader. So many can see it!
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Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.
Good for them Gerks.
Still a C Grader. So many can see it!
You're dreaming.
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Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.
Good for them Gerks.
Still a C Grader. So many can see it!
You're dreaming.
No MM.
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
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Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?
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Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?
Nope did you Gerks or anybody else?
I'm not saying he has played badly I did mention he had a purple patch mid year but he is just a C grader. He has show some improvement but given he has played regular footy in the last 6 seasons he should have shown more. Hence I rate him a C grader and a member of the side that given where we will be in the next few years can easily be upgraded on. Simple.
Some here say he's a mid 15-18 possies in the mid is hardly enough. I'd like to know how many times in his career he has broken the 20 posession barrier. :shh
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Not sure if gg on the wind up or if he's back on the bandwagon he started 5 years ago.
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The bandwagon is crank driven, needs a wind up every now and then ;D
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Good place to wind it up
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
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Easily in the top two indigenous players at the club
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Easily in the top two indigenous players at the club
Le ha ha.
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Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?
Nope did you Gerks or anybody else?
I'm not saying he has played badly I did mention he had a purple patch mid year but he is just a C grader. He has show some improvement but given he has played regular footy in the last 6 seasons he should have shown more. Hence I rate him a C grader and a member of the side that given where we will be in the next few years can easily be upgraded on. Simple.
Some here say he's a mid 15-18 possies in the mid is hardly enough. I'd like to know how many times in his career he has broken the 20 posession barrier. :shh
agree have been saying exactly that for yrs.
6 yrs in and we are debating his worth weather hes below standard or just a passable afl player. at 24 and 100 games he should be well and truly established for his type.
if i had to rate his first 6 yrs i would have to give him a b/s below standard rating. like a lot of b/s players they have at times played some good footy.
im especially harsh on smalls they need to bring something to the table to make up for the lack of size.
they need to be clean one touch players or they get crunched or turn it over under extreme physical pressure. they have to be excellent kicks and decision makers and generally have good to excellent pace.
so few of our smalls meet these basic criteria hence they are inconsistent for yrs on end and look very much like battlers half the time.
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There's quite a bit of b/s in this thread
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?
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he should be well and truly established for his type.
He is well and truly established.
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?
I'm actually sober. Reckon plenty of others are knocking the sherbets back though.
Edwards is clearly an entrenched player for us.
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.
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he should be well and truly established for his type.
He is well and truly established.
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?
I'm actually sober. Reckon plenty of others are knocking the sherbets back though.
Edwards is clearly an entrenched player for us.
Entrenched as we are at a stage of list development that ensures he is a regular.If we can do better and get an upgrade we should take it. Anyway clean and sober here in the Tucker household also. Obviously we all have no social life it seems talking about Titch close to midnight on a Saturday night. ;D
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.
I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.
I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.
Thanks for that MM. :thumbsup
As I've said time will tell. We'll see how the kid goes and whether he can step up. :thumbsup
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There's quite a bit of b/s in this thread
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I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.
Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.
I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.
reckon most of us are prepared to feed him some more crumbs. is to date a c grader at best. and yes hes established an established sometimes below standard afl player and a sometimes c grade afl player. at 24 100 games i reckon people are entiitled to question his consistency and upside.
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magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre. ;D
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magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre. ;D
Now now.. let's not get carried away. ;D
What we want are premiership footballers. Clearly not all of those have to be champions.
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magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre. ;D
Today he will once again prove his doubters wrong against the sturdy defense of Pearce, Hargrave and Talia
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magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre. ;D
Today he will once again prove his doubters wrong against the sturdy defense of Pearce, Hargrave and Talia
:lol
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Not taking sides here as I still can't make my mind up on Shed - his clangers can be the worst of game-changing howlers but his best can be just the opposite - but I thought I would chuck a summary of his stats up in response to Tucker's question re: how many 20+ possession games.
He played 16 games in 2007 averaging 10.3 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 9 games >10, 35 tackles @ 2.2.
He played 16 games in 2008 averaging 11.6 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 4 games >10, 30 tackles @ 1.9.
He played 15 games in 2009 averaging 12.6 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 3 games >10, 30 tackles @ 2.0.
He played 22 games in 2010 averaging 18.8 disposals per game, 8 20+ games, no games >10, 76 tackles @ 3.4.
He played 20 games in 2011 averaging 15.6 disposals per game, 5 20+ games, 1 game >10, 58 tackles @ 2.9.
He has played 16 games so far in 2012 averaging 17.4 disposals per game, 5 20+ games, 1 game >10, 41 tackles @ 2.6.
Interestingly, his stats show a marked increase since Hardwick and co took over so in fairness that should be considered when assessing his performance/worth. Also, I have a recollection that he played under an injury cloud for some of 2011 so there are possible reasons for the slight decline from his breakout 2010 season.
I know that stats don't paint the whole picture but they do show trends and highlight points that might otherwise get hidden in the emotion of player assessment.
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I think his shanks are getting less and less too as his stats improve although when he does one it is a ripper
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Inb4 'Edwards is a gun because he kicked 4.4 against the best side in history'
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Lads, how good was Edwards today?
Effing gun because he kicked 4.4 against arguably one of the best sides....wait, what?
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4.4 against the Bulldog juggernaut, give him 5 years Tiges :clapping
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4.4 against the Bulldog juggernaut, give him 5 years Tiges :clapping
Yes Big Man :clapping
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Yep looks like the dark clouds will have to find another target
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who cares who the opposition was facts are edwards was a gun today
he is a damn good player and our best small fwd, we need to pee nahas off
edwards is the best small fwd in the comp at the minute
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had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have. i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.
jeez white king and nahas in the first half were invisible. king unlike the other two at least made a decent conttribution with a decent second half.
for the life of me i cant see how we continue to play any of the three.
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king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
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king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second half and played significant time in the midfield. most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.
king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.
for me atm edwards is atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him. id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.
yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.
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had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have. i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.
Nice to see you giving him some credit.
He is improving. Should have had 6 today with a bit of luck/polish.
Created havoc for the Dogs.
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Got to admit was our best small forward today. :thumbsup
But it must also be admitted that he gave his standard 2 hospital handballs and missed a few sitters.
Yes he did have a good game. :thumbsup
However look at the quality of opposition. I'd like him to have a game like that next week.
Who wouldn't. ;D
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The Claw is just too brief in his posts, embellish your point craw
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had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have. i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.
Nice to see you giving him some credit.
He is improving. Should have had 6 today with a bit of luck/polish.
Created havoc for the Dogs.
believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.
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king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second half and played significant time in the midfield. most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.
king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.
for me atm edwards is atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him. id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.
yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.
Pretty sure King set up our very first goal?
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i put my hand up and say wow i didnt see that coming from
Sensational.
Leadership group 2013 will consist of Titch, Jackson, White and Newman
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king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second half and played significant time in the midfield. most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.
king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.
for me atm edwards is atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him. id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.
yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.
couldve told you this would happen in Rd 1 Claw.
usual suspects bop up against rubbish string a few games and some start getting excited again and forget about the big picture.
Edwards has no upside. he has either good like today and for about 30% of season games or very poor like the other 70%
When are we going to get serious and cut spuds like White and Jackson
I, like you cant see how we can genuinely challenge with all of White, Nahas, King, Edwards and Jackson all in the same team
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He's our best small forward at the moment and King stepped up when the game needed to be won in the third. Robie had a bad one today but has kicked a few in previous games.
The marks he took in the forward line showed his courage and I for one are please that he is playing as a forward where he is best suited.
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Andrew Jarman was right
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king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second half and played significant time in the midfield. most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.
king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.
for me atm edwards is atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him. id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.
yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.
couldve told you this would happen in Rd 1 Claw.
usual suspects bop up against rubbish string a few games and some start getting excited again and forget about the big picture.
Edwards has no upside. he has either good like today and for about 30% of season games or very poor like the other 70%
When are we going to get serious and cut spuds like White and Jackson
I, like you cant see how we can genuinely challenge with all of White, Nahas, King, Edwards and Jackson all in the same team
:thumbsup
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Totally agree with Camboon. Edwards very quick with his hands in contested situations. If Edwards had kicked straight could easily have kicked 6 or 7 goals. Edwards must play in forwardline. King was very good particularly in 3rd quarter when the game was up for grabs. Agree Nahas had a bad game.
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believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.
As I have said before his 2011 season was largely interrupted due to major shoulder surgery over the pre season.
He's returned to the form he was showing in 2010.
The challenge is no doubt there to keep improving though, as it is for all players on our list. Think he can.
Edwards has no upside.
Would think this year he's shown plenty of 'upside' but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about your opinions. :thumbsup
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believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.
As I have said before his 2011 season was largely interrupted due to major shoulder surgery over the pre season.
He's returned to the form he was showing in 2010.
The challenge is no doubt there to keep improving though, as it is for all players on our list. Think he can.
Edwards has no upside.
Would think this year he's shown plenty of 'upside' but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about your opinions. :thumbsup
I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D
Amazing....he is not not as good as you think, he has had 6 years in the system and should be a bloody star they way you talk about him, but he isn't..let it go MM.... :lol
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I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D
Yawn. He's making the likes of you look very silly I must say but when he's played 250 games and has been part of a premieship side, no doubt you'll still be hoping he's a failure, just so you can say I told you so.
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Missing goals from 2m out. Game record holder. The highlights reel for this player must be huge.
Takes some serious skill to be able to miss from there consistently. Only a few players on our list who were capable of that in the late 80s early 90s. Doesn't Edwards bring back some memories.....
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I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D
Yawn. He's making the likes of you look very silly I must say but when he's played 250 games and has been part of a premieship side, no doubt you'll still be hoping he's a failure, just so you can say I told you so.
Please read unplugged comments and the majority of forum users. Why is he making the "likes of me look silly", your kidding, he has made the likes of you look siily for 6 years.
Also, go back and read my posts saying I hope he makes so don't take my comments and screw them around to suit your one eyed mind.
Fact...6 years on the team...fact very little to prove for it......fact he kicked 4 goals against a bottom 4 side....fact he missed the easiest shot in the league.....
If he is still there in two years Hardwick MAY be elseware...
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Please read unplugged comments and the majority of forum users.
An outspoken few does not represent the majority.
Anyways we'll see in a few years who's right about which way Edwards future is heading.
So far I'm well ahead considering you fully expected him to be delisted at the start of the year..
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Why are people taking away his 4.4 cause its a bottom team? He kicked the second most goals for our team, does that mean everyone else had a poo game cause it was against a bottom team? Deledio only got 31 touches against a poo team, had an absolute stinker
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Milne kicked 1.3 against them and Betts 2.1 so you work it out dude
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"An outspoken few does not represent the majority.
Anyways we'll see in a few years who's right about which way Edwards future is heading.
So far I'm well ahead considering you fully expected him to be delisted at the start of the year.."
:sleep :sleep.....Trade him....
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ffs edwards is a required and damn good player
pull ur heads out of ur culi u idiots
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In the last 12 rounds he has kicked 22 goals...kicked more than 1 on 8 occasions in that timeperiod.
He is more than serviceable.
Unfortunately he along with Jacko (and to a lesser extent White because he isnt in the team as much) have become the whipping boys for internet crusaders...oh well...whip away if you must.
The reality is that the coaching staff rate him, and from the looks of his teammates, they do too. That is all that counts really.
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Does the role that he needs to, is our best small forward by a long margin. :clapping
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From Dimma.
* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.
Dimma left out the reason he has no composure even 1m out from goal all on his own. It is because he is poo scared and looking over his shoulder. If that ever changes, he will be a good footballer. He has had six years to grow a set. Can't see it happening.
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* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.
Pretty fair assessment from the coach.
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From Dimma.
* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.
Dimma left out the reason he has no composure even 1m out from goal all on his own. It is because he is poo scared and looking over his shoulder. If that ever changes, he will be a good footballer. He has had six years to grow a set. Can't see it happening.
Apparently all reports from the change rooms are that they finally dropped this year! Except when it's really cold but then that would affect all except the most well endowed! :lol
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Good game Titch - was not a fan at beginning of the year but has started to become a lot mor consistent.
We have had a lot of "project" players that have simply fallen off the earth - good to see we can develop a good player internally
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Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable :clapping
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Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable :clapping
You left out. If he stops being a loser. Have to include the whole quote, not just the fairy tale part.
Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Carlton. The three wins that would have seen us play finals. Edwards 2 Goals 7 Behinds. Nahas 9 Goals 2 Behinds.
If Edwards had of converted 3 of those misses from 5 metres out, we would be playing finals now.
Even with no opponent and no pressure on the weekend against a reserve team with King and Nahas in the side taking the better defenders, the completely useless dud missed 4 gimmes. Of the four goals he did get, one of his conversions he struggled from 2m out, almost hit the post and another was a gift from Riewoldt into an open goal.
Its not complicated why people don't like Edwards. He has been a dud of epic proportions for the last 6 years and still he gets picked week in week out.
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Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable :clapping
You left out. If he stops being a loser. Have to include the whole quote, not just the fairy tale part.
Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Carlton. The three wins that would have seen us play finals. Edwards 2 Goals 7 Behinds. Nahas 9 Goals 2 Behinds.
If Edwards had of converted 3 of those misses from 5 metres out, we would be playing finals now.
Even with no opponent and no pressure on the weekend against a reserve team with King and Nahas in the side taking the better defenders, the completely useless dud missed 4 gimmes. Of the four goals he did get, one of his conversions he struggled from 2m out, almost hit the post and another was a gift from Riewoldt into an open goal.
Its not complicated why people don't like Edwards. He has been a dud of epic proportions for the last 6 years and still he gets picked week in week out.
You mean the goal he sprinted in from the boundary after taking the crumbs from Cotchin going up in a marking contest? Was he meant to kick that from where he took it?? :whistle :shh
Shameful to blame the loss of those games on 1 player, and out of the players that you could pin you pick Edwards? Nahas had 13, 8 and 9 disposals in those games to Edwards 17, 16 and 18. So 30 disposals to Nahas and 51 to Edwards.
Goal assists Nahas 1 Edwards 4 . . .
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Edwards excites
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 14 Aug, 2012
Shane Edwards continues to shine in his new role as a medium-sized forward in the Richmond line-up.
Edwards kicked a career-high four goals in the Tigers’ 70-point win against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG last Sunday, to take his season’s tally to 23, with 22 of those coming in the past 12 games, since his permanent move into attack.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/144535/default.aspx
VIDEO: Edwards' goalrush ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/479026/Edwards%27%20goal%20rush/
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You mean the goal he sprinted in from the boundary after taking the crumbs from Cotchin going up in a marking contest? Was he meant to kick that from where he took it?? :whistle :shh
Shameful to blame the loss of those games on 1 player, and out of the players that you could pin you pick Edwards? Nahas had 13, 8 and 9 disposals in those games to Edwards 17, 16 and 18. So 30 disposals to Nahas and 51 to Edwards.
Goal assists Nahas 1 Edwards 4 . . .
Gold Coast. 0 Goals 3 Behinds. Lost by 2 points. Carlton 0 Goals 3 Behinds. Lost by 4 points. Not counting kicks that didn't make it or were on the full.
Shameful to defend this dud.
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everyone loves a bit of TITCH :shh
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Lined up in the guts before the first boucr I think.
love him or hate him; he's got great hands. Agile.
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everyone loves a bit of TITCH :shh
And some have the itch :shh
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Others call jack a bitch
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when he's on he does some good things.
Psycho
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Others call jack a bitch
:lol
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kicking has always been a problem with him
bit harsh going crook this week about him kicking 4.4 didnt he hit the post twice from tight angles. 4.4 22 possesions with his fair share of tackles and applied pressure was a decent game. he went thru midfield and gave others a chop out.
the combined footskills of the smalls is a real problem edwards white king nahas again i have to talk about the lack of polish with all of them.
with nahas the falling over the bloody fumbles hes never one touch or clean its this when i say lack of polish. the lack of possesion as a combination is not good enough.
edwards with his kicking nahas with his onesidedness and lack of good footskills white is a poor kick and decision maker doesnt get much ball. king for a small misses his fair share and just doesnt get enough ball . if tackling stats are to be used as a guide king hardly tackles compared to the others .
king white and nahas for the last 12 weeks just havent been involved in games enough combine that with their skills and you have good grounds for complaint.
nahas has had 15 possesions or more on just 5 occasions and only once against a good side.all 4 have shown themselves to be liabilities when in the midfield. credit to edwards the last 12 13 games when in the midfield hes been okay.
white has had just 5 games. hes only getting it 10 times a game has only kicked 3 goals and laid 6 tackles again this combined with his ordinary skill set screams we must do something about him. i know hes had limited time but these sort of stats stack up right across his career.
king has had 11 games kicked just 7 goals just 22 tackles and averages just over 11.5 possesions a game. again this sort of output combined with poor skills is not good enough.
king nahas and edwards are contracted so will be kept. being uncontracted i would be shocked if white is retained though. we have to make some decisions on some of these types.
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Agree on White. Probably the most skillful of the lot but doesn't get enough of the ball. He doesn't run hard enough to link up, doesn't win his own ball and struggles defensively. I'm not sure if the issue with him is that they play him in a tagging capacity or if he is constantly carrying injuries? White has had seven years to prove himself. That is too long for a mid size player to come good. Really should have gone a few years ago.
If we could organise a trade for him to one of the fledgling clubs who might need a bit more experience through the midfield or forward line, we should take whatever we can get. He needs a change for his career as much as we need to get rid of him and try to develop or recruit better players.
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Agree on White. Probably the most skillful of the lot but doesn't get enough of the ball. He doesn't run hard enough to link up, doesn't win his own ball and struggles defensively. I'm not sure if the issue with him is that they play him in a tagging capacity or if he is constantly carrying injuries? White has had seven years to prove himself. That is too long for a mid size player to come good. Really should have gone a few years ago.
If we could organise a trade for him to one of the fledgling clubs who might need a bit more experience through the midfield or forward line, we should take whatever we can get. He needs a change for his career as much as we need to get rid of him and try to develop or recruit better players.
Problem is no one will offer anything for him.
If we can recruit 1 good small forward this season (Saad type), then Kings last season will be 2013. Ideally you want to have an Edwards and a Saad in the forward line crumbing the goals with Nahas to come in as a replacement for one if form warrants it or injuries grant him that chance.
Edwards is good enough to be a second small/medium forward. Just need that 1 genuine small forward and we will be right.
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others here may know how well hes gone or not this yr but willie wheeler was i thought we should have rookied.
what impressed me with him was not just the numbers but just how clean he was and his skills were very much up to afl standard. going by the criteria i use for targeting state league players im surprised noone took a punt on him as a rookie. just like i was surprised at a few others not at least given a chance on the rookie list.
if we are chasing a quick classy forward we could do worse than max duffy at e/freo.
i still believe chasing someone like caddy if we believe hes a more talented player than what may be available at pick 10 ish is the way to go.
he can play forward caddy deledio martin and cotchin we could afford to permanently have one of them rotating thru the forward line.
this is how i would envision our forward line moving forward
hf/ edwards - one of elton/griffiths/astbury - duffy/ohanlon or classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.
f/ vickery - riewoldt - caddy/martin/deledio/conca in rotations
clearly i dont envision a long term with any of king nahas or white. also some of those mentioned may not make it.
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classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.
harper is yet to re-sign with norf, love the way he goes about it and would love to **** norf over whilst upgrading our list
send them nahas and one of our 2nd round picks or he walks
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classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.
harper is yet to re-sign with norf, love the way he goes about it and would love to **** norf over whilst upgrading our list
send them nahas and one of our 2nd round picks or he walks
Get it done! Kid has shown heaps in the back Half of the season. Is a great Kick!
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Harper was a massive Tigers fan as a kid also. ;)
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Won't be defending that one. Stinker.
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Harper was a massive Tigers fan as a kid also. ;)
Was too
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Won't be defending that one. Stinker.
Open your eyes pal
That was typical Edwards in 75% of games he has played
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Terrible just terrible
Can't defend what cannot be excused
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I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....
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I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....
De-list King who was one of best today?
Agree re Nahas after today's effort especially after witnessing his stroll out on the wing with his back to the play while Houli is running foward trying to spot him for a pass :banghead
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I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....
De-list King who was one of best today?
Agree re Nahas after today's effort especially after witnessing his stroll out on the wing with his back to the play while Houli is running foward trying to spot him for a pass :banghead
Yep, and Edwards was one of our best last week. As I said, Edwards is hopeless played up the ground but around the goals he is brilliant. Is faster and has many more tricks than King. Keep Edwards forward and he poo 's on both King and Nahas......
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Open your eyes pal
Pfft. The irony. He's been good up forward for us this season but I wasn't impressed one bit yesterday. Struggled when asked to fill Conca's role.
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Open your eyes pal
Pfft. The irony. He's been good up forward for us this season but I wasn't impressed one bit yesterday. Struggled when asked to fill Conca's role.
I said 75% of games
I agree his quick hands is very good but I've seen too many times against good opposition revert back to the Edwards of old. Missed handballs from 1 metre away, slipped tackles.
We differ cause you see him part of a premiership team, I don't.
Would love for the RFC to show some balls and trade one of he or Nahas but they wont
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Honestly what another insiped performance.
Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!
He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...
:banghead
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Poor game yesterday after a string of consistent ones. Needs to stand up in the games against better opposition. Still year has been good overall
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he still was better than half 3/4 our other players and our pathetic captain
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he still was better than half 3/4 our other players and our pathetic captain
:clapping x52,809
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LOL - Crack that whip , I vote we recruit another whipping boy for next year - ours just have improved too much, ( well maybe not all of them - but Titch and Rancey have) - I hear that theres a couple of small forwards that can be played in the midfield that would suit the position beautifully!
If your hungry have a snack on your own - very satisfying - mmm yum
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had a shocker imo. can forgive one bad one in 10 or 12, in the past the bad ones have become the norm lets hope that doesnt happen again.
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Honestly what another insiped performance.
Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!
He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...
:banghead
You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately
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Honestly what another insiped performance.
Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!
He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...
:banghead
You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Edwards has at least taken a few steps forward not like Graham, McGuane and co. :banghead
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Honestly what another insiped performance.
Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!
He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...
:banghead
You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Edwards has at least taken a few steps forward not like Graham, McGuane and co. :banghead
FFS! Even Frustrated can see it :lol
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VIDEO: Titch interviewed in the rooms after the game yesterday ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/486414/In%20the%20rooms:%20Edwards/
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Positives - goal kicking, tackling(?), endurance, pace, forward pressure
Negatives - strength, accuracy
Assessment: Retain - still in the red for ROI, so needs to keep improving this year and provide a consistant effort. Also needs to get more of the ball in midfield to provide back up option
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I'm very interested to see who we keep in our best 22 next year in the small forward role. Assuming we get Knights that would mean we have Nahas, King, Edwards and Knights fighting for 2 spots (Maric will be delisted surely). King has so far claimed the defensive small forward role so who will be able to fill this role of King is missing and who will be our crumber/midfielder?
Nahas is the most in danger here. Knights and Edwards are much more capable of rotating through the midfield than Nahas who is till far too slight. Maybe Edwards and Knights will rotate between the midfield/wing and forwardline going forward?
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I'm very interested to see who we keep in our best 22 next year in the small forward role. Assuming we get Knights that would mean we have Nahas, King, Edwards and Knights fighting for 2 spots (Maric will be delisted surely). King has so far claimed the defensive small forward role so who will be able to fill this role of King is missing and who will be our crumber/midfielder?
Nahas is the most in danger here. Knights and Edwards are much more capable of rotating through the midfield than Nahas who is till far too slight. Maybe Edwards and Knights will rotate between the midfield/wing and forwardline going forward?
Knights is a Half Forward Flanker/Midfielder, not a small forward. Would play a completely different roll to any of those three.....
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Positives - goal kicking, tackling(?), endurance, pace, forward pressure
Negatives - strength, accuracy
Assessment: Retain - still in the red for ROI, so needs to keep improving this year and provide a consistant effort. Also needs to get more of the ball in midfield to provide back up option
Positive: positioning/crumbing packs
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Another 3 goals from Edwards. Has had an excellent year up forward and stuck it up his doubters. 8)
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Best year by far at the club. Is clearly a forward. Dangerous around the forwardline. Needs to work on his kicking but well done to him for improving his game. Very quick with his hands. Hopefully follows up next year with another good year.
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29 goals for the season & and 8th place finish in the B&F. Safe to say Shane won't be getting delisted any time soon numbnuts.
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only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
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Need 40 goals from him next year
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only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
He adds both.
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only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
He adds both.
You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.
He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.
His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.
Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
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He is pretty strong for his size much stronger than nahas... And be can take a mark over head unlike falafel head... Edwards is a fine player and required... He is even Better and more dangerous than Foley... Some of u knobs just cannot admit Edwards is a valued player
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As a small forward edwards is more dangerous than foley.But at this point in time edwards is a goal sneak,nothing more nothing less.On the other hand i regard nathan as an elite midfielder.When he went down earlier this year we missed him badly .I'd go as far as to say that if he played ,some of those real close games we would have won.On the other hand if edwards went down with a long term injury(god forbid) would we miss him as much?...very much doubt it
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much improved season from titch - thought he was gone prior to this year but felt he did enough to warrant at least being in our best 25...
hopefully realises now what it takes to make it/contribute & goes up another cog next year....
not sure he is better than Foley - think that's pushing it...more dangerous up forward perhaps
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thought he was pretty ordinary the first 8 9 games.
thought he was pretty decent most games there after primarily as a small forward.
for 6 yrs the challenge for this bloke has been not to drop off too much when he has a poor game and becoming consistent.
has it all to prove still as just over half a yr of decent footy is not enough.
only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
He adds both.
You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.
He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.
His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.
Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
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He is pretty strong for his size much stronger than nahas... And be can take a mark over head unlike falafel head... Edwards is a fine player and required... He is even Better and more dangerous than Foley... Some of u knobs just cannot admit Edwards is a valued player
Some knobbies can't admit Foley is a good player either. :lol :rollin :lol
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thought he was pretty ordinary the first 8 9 games.
thought he was pretty decent most games there after primarily as a small forward.
for 6 yrs the challenge for this bloke has been not to drop off too much when he has a poor game and becoming consistent.
has it all to prove still as just over half a yr of decent footy is not enough.
only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
He adds both.
You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.
He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.
His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.
Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Was that my summation of Edwards or MM.... :lol :thumbsup ;)
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...
Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
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Foley is an overrated damaged goods player... Why didn't the cats even consider him... Because his disposal has always been suss.... His body is busted... And he's very good at finding the ball and even better at stuffing up when he has it.
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...
Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...
Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
Bla bla 8th, I was waiting for this one, mate go read my original post, you usually only select what you want out of them, I had positives and negatives for Edwards. Take off your blinkers mate. 8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
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8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Really ? :lol So who do you barrack for mate ?
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8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?
8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.
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8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?
8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.
Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep
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8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?
8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.
Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep
Oh really? Didn't stop you bringing Martin up in this thread recently.
You've just said that his finish in the JDM means nothing because 'that lot' isn't much chop so I can only assume you don't rate the players he beat in the tally.
I'm obviously not saying Shane is better than those guys as they have different roles, but Edwards had a very good season. No surprises that you're too blind to see it.
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geez why cant some give the kid a break. :banghead
love the Titch and his quick hands and reflexes.
still scope for improvement i reckon. :thumbsup
has an X factor that all teams need occasionally.
but if he is a DUD as some on here claim him
to be who am i to argue with these experts. :lol
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8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?
8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.
Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep
Oh really? Didn't stop you bringing Martin up in this thread recently.
You've just said that his finish in the JDM means nothing because 'that lot' isn't much chop so I can only assume you don't rate the players he beat in the tally.
You'd think that line of logic was pretty easy to follow
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6 stuffing years, 6 stuffing years, he would want to give more than he has in 6 stuffing years...
Wouldn't be in the line up at any of the top 8 clubs, FFS wake up, he goes ok and thats about it.
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
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only duds or superstars at richmond
"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO :lol
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:lol
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6 stuffing years, 6 stuffing years, he would want to give more than he has in 6 stuffing years...
Wouldn't be in the line up at any of the top 8 clubs, FFS wake up, he goes ok and thats about it.
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
Harsh there mate, ill be honest I havent rated Titch and put a line through his name in that game against the pies a few years ago when from 3 relatively easy shots on goal he managed a total combined agg score of 1 behind.... However, if he manages to play next season to the min standard of what he set as a small fwd in the second half of this season, then hes proved me and other knockers wrong. Doesnt need to be a top 4 player at the club, just a reasonable and decent contributor like the back half of this season.
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only duds or superstars at richmond
"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO :lol
Ok Gerks, 4-6 or am I still asking too much, I mean he apparently is a superstar finishing 8th...is 6th too much to ask mate.
Thats the problem with half of you, you are happy when our players reach the "ok" level or the "good enough" level.....thats why we have been in the poo we have for years. Accept the mediocray, pfft!!!!
For the milliionth time, he waent well this year, but thats it, he wasn't a star, he has been in the system for 6 years he sould be playing better than well......
FFS....BTW al, your still a fool! :lol
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:lol
im the fool?
do you realise that only 4 players can finish in the top 4? (or 6 can finish in the top 6)?
so therefore with the rest we are accepting them reaching the OK level?
LMAO.
Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?
go for it big boy :thumbsup
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certainly some strange cats on here. :lol
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only duds or superstars at richmond
"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO :lol
Ok Gerks, 4-6 or am I still asking too much, I mean he apparently is a superstar finishing 8th...is 6th too much to ask mate.
Thats the problem with half of you, you are happy when our players reach the "ok" level or the "good enough" level.....thats why we have been in the poo we have for years. Accept the mediocray, pfft!!!!
For the milliionth time, he waent well this year, but thats it, he wasn't a star, he has been in the system for 6 years he sould be playing better than well......
FFS....BTW al, your still a fool! :lol
spot on
started slowly, ended well. best season to date.
If he backs it up next year with a consistent year then as supporters thats all you can ask. Its taken 6 years so hopefully he can
if he can be a consistent player i.e last half of the year then has more upside than Nahas and King. Is far more clever and quicker than Nahas and has age on his side vrs King
Key word is consistency
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:lol
im the fool?
do you realise that only 4 players can finish in the top 4? (or 6 can finish in the top 6)?
so therefore with the rest we are accepting them reaching the OK level?
LMAO.
Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?
go for it big boy :thumbsup
:lol
Good so Jackson is ok then...
No al, you are just the self proclaimed legend arent you....
I don't rate Edwards any better than good, thats it for me.
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if you dont rate him any better than good, why would you expect him to finish top 4-6 in the B&F?
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if you dont rate him any better than good, why would you expect him to finish top 4-6 in the B&F?
There you go, you are a fool. Proof of it.
I said he would need to finish there next year to prove he has gone better than this year...
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:lol
and here i was thinking you said this..
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
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:lol
and here i was thinking you said this..
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
al now you are really backtracking, I changed that to top 4-6, which you know and it was a generalisation comment ....get over yourself mate.
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OK,
Sorry dear,
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
All better now?
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OK,
Sorry dear,
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
All better now?
idiot.
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OK,
Sorry dear,
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
All better now?
Love your signature too, proves that you do think you are pretty special.. :lol :lol
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Discuss the topic without the namecalling and insults ppl!
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OK,
Sorry dear,
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
All better now?
Love your signature too, proves that you do think you are pretty special.. :lol :lol
I don't think he needs to finish any higher in the B&F to warrant his improvement. In all honesty, you'd expect with good seasons to Martin and a few others, he should drop from 8th. Doesn't mean he can't improve on his output from this year though.
If he can kick around 30-35 goals next year as a small forward, and keep up his assists and forward line pressure that is more than enough IMO. Will never be a Cotchin/Martin/Deledio but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a use in our side. Our best small forward by a margin at the moment.
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Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?
Nobody has labelled him a superstar. He's only been branded a dud.
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Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?
Nobody has labelled him a superstar. He's only been branded a dud.
Where lately???
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Where lately???
He is pathetic
3 weeks ago recent enough?
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he meant that he was pathetic he couldn't finish in the top
four 4 to 6 in the B&F, not that he was a pathetic footballer
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he meant that he was pathetic he couldn't finish in the top four 4 to 6 in the B&F, not that he was a pathetic footballer
We should delist any player not in our top 6 and have a good crack at the draft every year. If they don't finish that high they are obviously duds
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#krakatoa
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Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
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Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Thats utter BS
I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.
2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011
For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.
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Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Thats utter BS
I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.
2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011
For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.
he will play well next yr because earning your utmost respect is the only reason why he plays lol :help :wallywink
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Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Thats utter BS
I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.
2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011
For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.
he will play well next yr because earning your utmost respect is the only reason why he plays lol :help :wallywink
glad you said it. Cheers :thumbsup
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I am not a fan of Titch and I am far from being won over,
but as some of the previous posters have mentioned and I will re-iterate. If he can hit his purple patch more consistently and for more blocks of games rather than a few here and a few there then I will turn on the subject.
As I have said in another post if he proves me wrong I'm man enough to admit that. :thumbsup
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Where lately???
He is pathetic
3 weeks ago recent enough?
Still didn't call him a dud did I.
3 weeks ago when I called that he was pathetic he bloody was, this is his problem, 3 weeks before that I probably said the same, and then 3 weeks prior to that again....NOT CONSISTENT.....or is he..
He is not consistent mate, get it, I will say it again for the al minded people, he had a good year and thats it, nothing more, he needs to back it up next year and add to it with a very good year. He needs to play week in week out every game and he is not doing that.
For all that that say 8th in the B&F is a great result, look at the players above him, they have been at the club the less than Edwards. After 6 years I expected more.
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I am not a fan of Titch and I am far from being won over,
but as some of the previous posters have mentioned and I will re-iterate. If he can hit his purple patch more consistently and for more blocks of games rather than a few here and a few there then I will turn on the subject.
As I have said in another post if he proves me wrong I'm man enough to admit that. :thumbsup
I am with you on this TB.
Actually I have said at the start of every season for the past 3 seasons that I will support him and I really hope he makes it, I mean makes it.
I also said I hope he proves me wrong, not just one good year or a few good games but consistently proves me wrong, then I will admit it too.
At this point in time though I have been waiting for 3 years and other than glimpses of decent football spread over a game he has not proved me wrong yet.
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Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Thats utter BS
I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.
2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011
For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.
Ok then.........Some people always have their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion. top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
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Where lately???
He is pathetic
3 weeks ago recent enough?
Still didn't call him a dud did I.
Let's not get bogged down in semantics. You clearly don't rate him.
Short of a Brownlow or Jack Dyer medal you'll always jump at the first sign of inconsistency so you can say I told you so.
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And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game
Pot kettle black? :shh
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And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game
Pot kettle black? :shh
:angel:
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According to the RFC site, Shane had the most goal assists of any Richmond player this season.
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Top 4 or FAIL :banghead
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And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game
Pot kettle black? :shh
:lol :lol The reverse WAT seems to come out allot thses days ;D
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The reverse WAT has been outlawed in most developed countries. Too many spinal injuries.
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even the regular WAT was banned in tassie up until 1997
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...
Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
im shocked he finished 8th. thought his first third of the yr ordinary.
is 8th just a reflection of the depth of the list or a reflection of a very good consistent yr.
personally i have never ever rated or included b&f finishes when debating players.
the problem people have with him is consistency and parts of his skill set. these things have not changed apart from having a decent back half to the yr.
lets be honest here shane has strung good games together before only to regress back to what seems is his level.
people really are entitled to ask will he maintain the decent afl level he was at for the last 12 odd games.they are entitled wait and see if he can at last find consistency before proclaiming him a good player.
one thing i am adamant on as a team structurally we can not play all of edwards king and nahas. imo there is a plce for just one.
all three lack big time in similar areas. of the three i think edwards the pick of them atm but that has changed regularly over the yrs as the form of these blokes fluctuates like a woman changing her mind in the shops.
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And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game
Pot kettle black? :shh
:lol :lol The reverse WAT seems to come out allot thses days ;D
Is that what they call a twit?
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thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths. did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...
Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
im shocked he finished 8th. thought his first third of the yr ordinary.
is 8th just a reflection of the depth of the list or a reflection of a very good consistent yr.
personally i have never ever rated or included b&f finishes when debating players.
You're right the B&F finish isn't all that relevant by itself but 29 goals and the highest number of scoring assists on our list shows his value to the team.
He is a one of our most creative players without doubt.
Sometimes when he's trying to make things happen the ball gets turned over which I guess deserves some criticism re his consistency but I like that he's taking risks with the ball. Sometimes it's going to pay off, sometimes it doesn't.
Whatever his B&F finish indicates, one thing is for sure and that's that he's now an established player in our side. If someone better comes along and pushes him out great but for now he'd be comfortably picked in our best 22 and does not deserve the 'pathetic' tags some here have placed on him.
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Had the 8th best year for Richmond. Wheres the criticism of the players below him and their inconsistency
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Had the 8th best year for Richmond. Wheres the criticism of the players below him and their inconsistency
Im not too sure how to cut and paste the list on who actually finished lower than Edwards but taking out the injured Grimes, Foley, Vickery, Griffiths, Batch, plus players who are either young or played mostly in reserves i believe players like Nahas, Hackson are among that lot and they to cop their deserved criticism.
I don't think anyone is disputing what Edwards did in the back half was great work, people are disputing whether he can back it up more consistently. After 7 yrs in the system thats what u would expect.
The coaching seem to think he is doing something good but hey they also think Hackson is doing something great too. They are not always right. Time will tell
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edwards is a damn good player but u morons who live behind computers have nfi
well done titch keep sticking it right up them
Edited: no need to resort to abusing any poster simply because they don't agree with you, make your point without the cheap snipe
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no need to get abusive pal, just telling it how it is IMO
IIRC it was u who said Browne will be a gun, Tambling is better than Lids and Foley is rubbish, Post is better than Rance. Have i missed anything?
Actually I don't think if we have seen the best of Tambling, but I'm unsure if we ever will, sadly.
tambling will overtake deledio in the next 2-3 yrs wait and see
some of u guys have no idea, Tambling had his best yr last yr and this yr is playing a different role, he has put his body in and been very courageous and shown real hunger and desire for the pill. he will be a gun and is doing ok, he just need better hep orund him
or my personal favourite
I still believe that Blingers has been a victim of poor development!
Had the same oppotunity to develop as Lids....
wrong
deledio was protected by wallace was hand gifted 1 nearly 2 b and f's, one was definitely richos!!!!!!
deledios best yr by a mile was this yr, tambling has been plagued by injuries and was coached poohouse bywallace
look at jackson, under wallace he was going no where, under hardwick he is vital
king another and even jack has blossomed under dimma
once tambling is over his unjuries he will thrive playing in a team that has a coach!!!
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OMG
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edwards is a damn good player but u morons who live behind computers have nfi
well done titch keep sticking it right up them
Agreed Username:. Had a great season and kicked some very important goals on a number of occasions. His ability to rip one through the posts from a heavily congested forward line is uncanny and his evasiveness and agility is of an elite level IMO. :thumbsup
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OMG
:lol
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
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I know Houli's secret. Taboulli
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OMG yes... Danny boy is obsessed .... He must be infatuated by me ... too have the time to dig so deep into past posts lol .. Someone needs a life..
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
Reported for impersonating a mod :police: :police:
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Where the hell did my coach Glenn avatar go? Im upset. I am a mod and get back on topic.
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
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wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
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wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
;)
Signed at a bargain price pre season. Much to the chagrin of some.
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wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
;)
Signed at a bargain price pre season. Much to the chagrin of some.
Good boy titch
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
Warrior Poet :clapping
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
Warrior Poet :clapping
:clapping
We'll be needing Shed to step up again next season. Consistency and 40 odd goals would be very handy. There's no use kicking 4.4 when it doesn't matter. We need guys like him, Nahas, Houli etc to play at a high level more often. We can't have the Chimp carrying us on his back forever.
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
From where I sit WAT when Ox posts on how crap a player is its more often than not a one off or is done so bluntly I find it more humerous than serious. The exception is possibly his views on Foley, but people have taken him to task on that IIRC.
With your posts they are usually more persistent. For mine those sorts of posts are more open to and more likely to generate debate.
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
From where I sit WAT when Ox posts on how crap a player is its more often than not a one off or is done so bluntly I find it more humerous than serious. The exception is possibly his views on Foley, but people have taken him to task on that IIRC.
With your posts they are usually more persistent. For mine those sorts of posts are more open to and more likely to generate debate.
What like CD's posts about Schulz and Gus, but he doesn't seem to cop it.....Ox was also very persistent about Lids for a while but that was fine?
Honestly though I cant be stuffed, Edwards is Edwards that's about it for mine, going for a ride now.. :thumbsup:
Fair enough post though.
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I have hardly posted about Gus in a long time. I love Schulzy and my posts on him are about how good he has become. Of course I am Coach and I'm nearly always right too. If I was constantly being negative then I'd cop it :) We all get some poo when we deserve it
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I have hardly posted about Gus in a long time. I love Schulzy and my posts on him are about how good he has become. Of course I am Coach and I'm nearly always right too. If I was constantly being negative then I'd cop it :) We all get some poo when we deserve it
Just an example, not having a go. This is what gets me though, I am not constantly negative about Edwards, I have complimented him when he has done well. I have a shot at him when plays crap maybe that's why it seems like I am always so negative towards him..:whistle
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You know I love you mate. We're all Tigers hoping for the same thing.
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You know I love you mate. We're all Tigers hoping for the same thing.
:thumbsup
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol
you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol
you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..
"Post is better than Rance"
"Tambo is a future brownlow winner"
"Dimma knows and your all knobs. Tambling playing role and Dimma happy"
Hand in your badge, mate. That is pathetic. :lol
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?
as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.
most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.
If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.
Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.
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Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic
and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?
Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.
"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol
you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..
"Post is better than Rance"
"Tambo is a future brownlow winner"
"Dimma knows and your all knobs. Tambling playing role and Dimma happy"
Hand in your badge, mate. That is pathetic. :lol
Coach, what is your Twitter ID? I want to follow you to the ends of the earth.... Mesmerizing stuff! :bow
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@greenbeanbag
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?
as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.
most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.
If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.
Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.
Oh bla bla bla, don't reply to my posts if you don't like name calling, fool.
You are so contradictory, freedom of speech unless it's me or my comments about Edwards.
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So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
I disagree with Ox too FWIW. 14 games? Absolute BS.
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too late you weak piece of poo
Stuffing gutless
Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free. :-*
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Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.
al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.
Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?
as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.
most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.
If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.
Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.
Oh bla bla bla, don't reply to my posts if you don't like name calling, fool.
You are so contradictory, freedom of speech unless it's me or my comments about Edwards.
No worries BA baracas.
Care to point out where I said you can't comment about edwards?
Huh?
Quote it if you want
Is this the only part of your life where people disagree with you, or do you react like this in the real world to anyone that dares to have a differing opinion?
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@greenbeanbag
Is that Tony Greenbeanbag? ;D
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Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free. :-*
This joint needs a like button
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too late you weak piece of poo
Stuffing gutless
:lol
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Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free. :-*
This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod. :thumbsup
Get it done, Mods! :clapping
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Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free. :-*
This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod. :thumbsup
Get it done, Mods! :clapping
I'm pretty sure there is a whole Thread about Post, and there aint many Likes :shh
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Yesss Big Man! The poet warrior speaks and conquers :clapping
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What a great day out there.
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
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Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free. :-*
This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod. :thumbsup
Get it done, Mods! :clapping
I'm pretty sure there is a whole Thread about Post, and there aint many Likes :shh
I like post, I'd like 8 posts
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
:lol... :wallywink
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
:lol... :wallywink
New low
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
:lol... :wallywink
New low
Dish it out....take it, if I was involved with a death I sure as hell wouldn't be giving out poo on a 2 bit forum.... :wallywink
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not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
Sorry to hear mate. Hope you're alright
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actually, thinking with a clear head it is probably something I shouldn't have posted.
Seems as i did, I should disappoint WAT in saying that it was not anyone close, in fact it wasn't anyone I knew.
I was working a bloke I often work with onsite when he was informed his parents had been killed in a car crash. Poor bloke was devastated.
So while WAT's earlier buffoonery may have bought a smile to my face, I doubt old mate would get any solace if he knew that some insensitive, unthinking, insecure buffoon took delight it the situation.
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actually, thinking with a clear head it is probably something I shouldn't have posted.
Seems as i did, I should disappoint WAT in saying that it was not anyone close, in fact it wasn't anyone I knew.
I was working a bloke I often work with onsite when he was informed his parents had been killed in a car crash. Poor bloke was devastated.
So while WAT's earlier buffoonery may have bought a smile to my face, I doubt old mate would get any solace if he knew that some insensitive, unthinking, insecure buffoon took delight it the situation.
Where did I say I delight in it...twisting my words yet again ......clown.
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That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
:lol... :wallywink
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That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
:lol... :wallywink
Still didn't answer my question....Go and spend some time with your mate.
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Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.
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Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.
And yet you think McGuane went alright and deserves another Contract :lol :lol
Your an awesome judge of Talent WAT, up there with Username and Jackstar ;D
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Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.
And yet you think McGuane went alright and deserves another Contract :lol :lol
Your an awesome judge of Talent WAT, up there with Username and Jackstar ;D
Yeah your up there too mate dont worry about that. :wallywink
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Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D
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Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D
Champ.. :clapping
IYO...
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Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D
Champ.. :clapping
IYO...
Dick :clapping
IMO....
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Please let me clear up a few things regarding my thoughts on Edwards;
When he joined the club I really thought we had picked up the next Milne, Krakour, Didak etc.. a player that would really amount to being somethig special. I didn't have the same thought over the years with Patto, Meyers and those types of players that have gone by the wayside.
I stuck by him, waiting, for about 4 years, hoping, backing him in, giving him another year, year after year after year, when others I might add had written him off after 2-3 years. Even this year I stuck by my words and kept my mouth shut until round one...well he wasnt much cop in that game was he.
I do not hate him as I do not hate anyone, it's not in my nature (even al and TFT.. :thumbsup). But to have a good and thats all it was, a good year after 6 years in my opinion does not mean he has proven himself. 8th in the B&F, does it really mean that much for one year out of 6, it shows his inconsistency again. Ok, he had a good year again in 2010, so 2 good years in 6. Morris has played noe year with us and finished higher, Grigg and Houli finished higher and they have only just joined us. I am talking about the new players abouve him, not the older players below him either, thats not mu point.
Players like Riewoldt, Foley, Rance, Deledio but to name a few have had better years than Edwards and they have copped it in the past and some still cop more flak than Edwards.
I have also said at the start of every year "I HOPE HE MAKES IT AND I HOPE HE PROVES ME WRONG"!!!! But in all honesty he hasn't. Will he, who knows, but I have been asking for it and it still hasn't happened. He should be a player that other coaches think before the game...gee who the hell are we going to put on Edwards...I bet they dont. He is not a hard player to stop, look at the recent finals games, there isn't a player in any of those teams that gets thrown around like Edwards.
On my last break I watched about 6 replays of the games from this year as well as seeing one live (during the season of course). Now yes he can do some good things and yes he does set up goals, but not consistently. This is my point, he is not consistent, never has been and for all and sundry to get so upbeat when he kicked 4 I think against GWS....please. He also makes critical errors at critical times in most games. I don't think there has been a game I have seen where he hasn't turned the ball over with a basic errors, but hey there may of been a time, I just havent sen it.
Plenty of you have your whipping boys, Jackson, Gus, McGuane, Post, Foley, Dea, Rance, Grigg, Houli....long list isn't it!!! Mine is Edwards, but at least at the start of each season I say.."I HOPE HE MAKES IT AND PROVES ME WRONG", I say that because I mean it. But I am not so sure he will, especially after watching the finals games, he will need to put on about 10kg more.
In all honesty we should of traded him in 2010/11, but now we have have him and until he proves me wrong I will be sceptical. It dosen't matter how many times I have a go at him or the repedativness of my comments it is no different to the posters that carry on continuously about other players....or have a go at players like Riewold for winning the Coleman.
So I hope I have cleared it up for you all.....
Go Edwards.. ;D
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Funny - Many commentaters - experts including the coaches said he was our most improved player this year - even lids and cotch said the at a club 80 night I attended.
I thought he was our best small forward this year !!!!
But everyone is en tilted to an opion!
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Funny - Many commentaters - experts including the coaches said he was our most improved player this year - even lids and cotch said the at a club 80 night I attended.
I thought he was our best small forward this year !!!!
But everyone is en tilted to an opion!
Thats fine Camboon, but again, the "experts" and "coaches" are usually riduculed for making the same comments about other players so are we selective of what we want to hear or what we think of players?? :-\....Hardwick says the same about Jackson....and the forum goes mad...
Like you said my opinion only.
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Was our best small forward this year. Deserves his 2 year extension.
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Was our best small forward this year. Deserves his 2 year extension.
We only had 3, King was injured and Nahas, well he didn't back up last year but he played different roles, so I suppose he was our best small forward.
Would of given him one year thoug, tuck played better and got one year..
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That's because Tucky is 30 odd. Geelong do the same with their old fellas. Offering one year to Edwards would be a massive kick in the guts to the bloke.
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That's because Tucky is 30 odd. Geelong do the same with their old fellas. Offering one year to Edwards would be a massive kick in the guts to the bloke.
I know why they gave Tuck a year but he played better you can't deny that, I think a years deal to Tuck was a kick in the guts to him.
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Matty Scarlett had a better season as well. If he wanted to play on Geelong wouldn't be offering more than 1 year. Edwards deserved two and Tucky (at his age) getting a 1 year deal is fine. We know Tuck will perform.
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Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
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Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
"Other opinions count for little", then stop making comments on forums MM, FFS I am entitled to my comments the same as you are, so if my comments count for little then so do yours promoting him or bagging other players as you do. See this is what happens on this forum, if you have a view where others don't like it.....shut the stuff up basicaly.... :-\
Mate I thought my comments were fair. But if you don't stiff poo because your comments count for little....see.
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Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.
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Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.
Not difficult I would have thought.
Don't rate Dan highly but my opinion matters little so long as Jackson's there.
Ultimately that's all we have on forums is opinions but Dimma's not reacting to our POV.
Not point getting as worked up about it as you do.
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did his job most weeks
dunno why fuss is about a middle tier player
suppose we could try and get this thread to 50 pages...
surely deserves his 2 yr extension if mcguane gets 1 yr
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Edwards made the Club's 2013 calendar so if that's any guide he's not going anywhere. Mind you Nahas has too (Kingy missed out) and Edwards would be ahead of Robbie and Jake in the pecking order of our small forwards based on 2012.
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Edwards made the Club's 2013 calendar so if that's any guide he's not going anywhere. Mind you Nahas has too (Kingy missed out) and Edwards would be ahead of Robbie and Jake in the pecking order of our small forwards based on 2012.
Is Robbies shot in the shower with the rude bits pixelated out like Ned Flanders when Homer does a video to recruit a new wife
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They couldn't fit nahas rude bits on. The first third of his along in on 2013.
You have to wait till 14/15 for the whole thing.
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That's why nahas always falls over.... Either trips over his third leg or the weight of it drags him down
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Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.
Not point getting as worked up about it as you do.
Because I have a few words on the subject apparently "I get worked up"...go read a few of your posts during the seson, during games, thats worked up....
I had my say on Edwards, if it made too much sense to you or your didn't like it then bad luck thats my say. But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong. Even when he misses goals and targets from 20meters of directly in front. Or when he kick the ball dicectly to an opposition player when we are streaming forward. Honestly even when he plays bad you still talk him up. Good player but inconsistent with brain fades, thats Edwards IMO.
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But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong.
Seeing as you scope through my posts so closely WA Tiger, you'd also know that post is absolute crap.
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But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong.
Seeing as you scope through my posts so closely WA Tiger, you'd also know that post is absolute crap.
It was from memory, but if I am wrong as you say then you must be right, I cant remember the last time you actually had a go at Edwards other than to say, his game was down today, thats about as much as you give him. So my post wasn't as crap as your posts on him when he plays crap!!
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Nahas kicked 34 goals. Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012.
By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward. (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out) Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him. Most improved player? Best small forward? When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud. He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over. He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond. We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on. Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
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You realise Edwards only played 15 games as a forward?
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Nahas kicked 34 goals. Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012.
By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward. (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out) Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him. Most improved player? Best small forward? When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud. He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over. He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond. We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on. Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
With respect, what an unmitigated pile of horse manure that post was.
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Nahas kicked 34 goals. Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012.
By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward. (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out) Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him. Most improved player? Best small forward? When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud. He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over. He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond. We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on. Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
Well I agree with the areas I have highlighted, the rest, you are more than entitled to say if that IYO!!
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Nahas kicked 34 goals. Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012.
By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward. (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out) Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him. Most improved player? Best small forward? When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud. He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over. He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond. We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on. Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
With respect, what an unmitigated pile of horse manure that post was.
I concur with your respectful post.
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Nahas kicked 34 goals. Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012.
By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward. (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out) Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him. Most improved player? Best small forward? When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud. He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over. He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond. We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on. Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
Well I agree with the areas I have highlighted, the rest, you are more than entitled to say if that IYO!!
Everyone has an opinion, but that doesn't mean they aren't full of poo. Nahas better than Edwards, geez.
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You realise Edwards only played 15 games as a forward?
Rubbish.
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Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.
Career Stats:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st Clear. In50 R50 CP UP 1%ers
2007: 16 10.3 3.4 2.2 11.7
2008: 16 11.6 2.9 1.9 12.11
2009: 15 12.6 2.3 2.0 5.3
2010: 22 18.8 2.8 3.5 7.8
2011: 20 16.1 3.3 2.9 4.12 1.6 1.8 2.6 0.9 3.4
2012: 20 17.8 2.5 2.8 29.26 2.6 2.7 0.2 8.6 8.7 1.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
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Edwards is without doubt the most valuable player in the team.........
.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.
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Edwards is without the most valuable player in the team.........
.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.
You'd think we were debating about Juddy.
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Edwards is without the most valuable player in the team.........
.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.
You'd think we were debating about Juddy.
Coach, Edwards is Juddy sans shoulder bandages so I can see your confusion.
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Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.
Career Stats:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st Clear. In50 R50 CP UP 1%ers
2007: 16 10.3 3.4 2.2 11.7
2008: 16 11.6 2.9 1.9 12.11
2009: 15 12.6 2.3 2.0 5.3
2010: 22 18.8 2.8 3.5 7.8
2011: 20 16.1 3.3 2.9 4.12 1.6 1.8 2.6 0.9 3.4
2012: 20 17.8 2.5 2.8 29.26 2.6 2.7 0.2 8.6 8.7 1.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...
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Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.
Career Stats:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st Clear. In50 R50 CP UP 1%ers
2007: 16 10.3 3.4 2.2 11.7
2008: 16 11.6 2.9 1.9 12.11
2009: 15 12.6 2.3 2.0 5.3
2010: 22 18.8 2.8 3.5 7.8
2011: 20 16.1 3.3 2.9 4.12 1.6 1.8 2.6 0.9 3.4
2012: 20 17.8 2.5 2.8 29.26 2.6 2.7 0.2 8.6 8.7 1.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...
Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.
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surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book
or 50 page thread
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Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.
Career Stats:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st Clear. In50 R50 CP UP 1%ers
2007: 16 10.3 3.4 2.2 11.7
2008: 16 11.6 2.9 1.9 12.11
2009: 15 12.6 2.3 2.0 5.3
2010: 22 18.8 2.8 3.5 7.8
2011: 20 16.1 3.3 2.9 4.12 1.6 1.8 2.6 0.9 3.4
2012: 20 17.8 2.5 2.8 29.26 2.6 2.7 0.2 8.6 8.7 1.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...
Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.
Um sorry was that my question, yep sure have noticed it, same as I have noticed the poor kicking of Ellis, the non leading of Jack or the slowness of Post......anymore. The question was about Edwards though...
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
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surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book
or 50 page thread
:lol
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surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book
or 50 page thread
:lol
He slipped to 26. All clubs are guilty of passing on him. :help
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch
Only 13th?? WAT had him top 4 easily, cant believe he slipped that far back :huh
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if you disregard grahams 1 game, the red pontiac managed a pass mark with a top 4 finish though
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch
Titch is WAT's bitch :lol
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Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.
Career Stats:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st Clear. In50 R50 CP UP 1%ers
2007: 16 10.3 3.4 2.2 11.7
2008: 16 11.6 2.9 1.9 12.11
2009: 15 12.6 2.3 2.0 5.3
2010: 22 18.8 2.8 3.5 7.8
2011: 20 16.1 3.3 2.9 4.12 1.6 1.8 2.6 0.9 3.4
2012: 20 17.8 2.5 2.8 29.26 2.6 2.7 0.2 8.6 8.7 1.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...
Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.
Um sorry was that my question, yep sure have noticed it, same as I have noticed the poor kicking of Ellis, the non leading of Jack or the slowness of Post......anymore. The question was about Edwards though...
Strueth your analysis misses nothing.....freaky
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch
Only 13th?? WAT had him top 4 easily, cant believe he slipped that far back :huh
He's got 100 vhs's and watches them on his lunch break. Can't be right.
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EDWARDS was a find this year specially with king struggling and nahas form bit like a yo-yo he kicked goals and dished some off he is slippery. Just hope he hits the gym this year and gets some size on him surely the weights should be working after about 5 pre- seasons know.
GO U TIGERS
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2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D
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wonder if his card will be thrown on the table
come trade time.
mmm crows might be interested.
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Missing goals from 2m out probably don't count as clangers. Kicking the ball constantly to the oppositions advantage doesn't count either. He just puts the ball on his boot and hopes. He would need 40 possessions a game to make an impact.
Avoiding any form of physical contact doesn't come up as a stat either. But he is the master of it.
This thread is good value.
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D
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This thread is good value.
have to agree with this
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Missing goals from 2m out probably don't count as clangers. Kicking the ball constantly to the oppositions advantage doesn't count either. He just puts the ball on his boot and hopes. He would need 40 possessions a game to make an impact.
Avoiding any form of physical contact doesn't come up as a stat either. But he is the master of it.
This thread is good value.
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT
got no idea if that is good or bad
Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D
:thumbsup Geez mate we are out numbered here aren't we... :lol
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This thread is good value.
have to agree with this
:lol
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This thread is good value.
have to agree with this
Grow up....
Kidding. Keep up the good work. :lol
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:thumbsup Geez mate we are out numbered here aren't we... :lol
bill and ben
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Dutchy and Markparsonsproject
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger! ;D
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger! ;D
Oh dear :lol :lol
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger! ;D
:lol :rollin
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;D
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;D
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:lol
Some funny stuff in here, good tonic after a long day!
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:lol :lol :rollin
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:lol
Some funny stuff in here, good tonic after a long day!
Your day finishes at 9:23am?
Must be a manager or a night shift worker.
:cheers
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No he starts work at 9 then cracks it because he is bored.
On topic thanks guys.
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:lol
Lol to both of you dills. ;D
The day in question was actually the day before that consisted of a 3.00am start, a 1300km round trip (the return towing a 3tonne trailer), a rear tyre blow out on the ute at dusk on the edge of the Bruce Hwy, 5 cumulative driving hours lost to roadworks, and a 10.30pm arrival home. A long day, so a laugh the next morning was a good tonic.
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger! ;D
Oh dear :lol :lol
How does it go....."sisters are doing it to....whoops for themselves" you two bunnies are great laugh .... :lol
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:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger! ;D
Oh dear :lol :lol
How does it go....."sisters are doing it to....whoops for themselves" you two bunnies are great laugh at value.... :lol
Clanger!! :lol
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snip back to the topic ppl
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Sugar Shane Sheddy Shedwards what a gun this bloke is
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Shane+Edwards+AFL+Rd+22+Richmond+v+Essendon+Lg9TFs_bVBml.jpg)
Yewwww!
(love the girl doing a cartwheel too)
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:lol
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Happy Birthday Shane!
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
We aren't that lucky
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
We aren't that lucky
:rollin
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
:lol
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Titch turns 24 today :birthday
Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
Tiger for life. :thumbsup
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GUN
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/k996rc.jpg)
All you titch haters wait and see...2013 will be his year to truly shine. :thumbsup
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Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D
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Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D
(http://i49.tinypic.com/k996rc.jpg)
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;D ;D ;D
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He's gonna kill it next year while Jackson will continue to be the spud who held the club to ransom for a new deal at the end of 2011
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Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D
How about we have a hungy on who finishes higher in the B&F - Edwards Shane vs Jackson Du...er..Dan
Proceeds go to fighting fund
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edwards is a damn good player, much maligned
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edwards is a damn good player, much maligned
Only by WAT ;) ;D ;D
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I just knew I could get this thread going again.... :lol :lol
I should really fire up about Edwards and bag the crap out of him, that should drag the real penut gallery into the fray and be worth about another 4 pages of response..... :rollin
God I hate the off season.... ;D
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?
#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?
#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
Don't twist my words to fulfil your perverted mind, you quoted "not", but I did not even say that word.... :wallywink
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?
#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
Don't twist my words to fulfil your perverted mind, you quoted "not", but I did not even say that word.... :wallywink
I think its inherent what you were trying to emphasise, but yeah, I probably misquoted you. Fair call.
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There you go big guy.
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???
If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....
I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???
If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....
I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!
I was offended ;D
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BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....
Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???
If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....
I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!
I was offended ;D
:lol :lol..TFT, in my dealings with you over the past few years mate NOTHING would offend you... :thumbsup :thumbsup
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For fans of Titch ;D, here is Colin Wisbey's profile of Edwards prior to him being drafted in 2006.
Shane Edwards (North Adelaide)
180/69 mid-age right foot (dual-sided) wing/utility.
*STYLE LIKE: Burgoynes / Surjan.
*MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 26
*PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Likely. Ready year 3.
- Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 10-15.
*HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): M / M-H / M
*TRADEMARK:
- Get ball, possibly inside traffic, then a very slick (probably short distance) give-off by hand, then immediately run on at pace.
- Bob up all over the ground with laudable but disconcerting frequency.
- Making something happen out of nothing
- Keen chase then keen tackle that may or may not stick.
*MAIN SELLING POINTS:
- Upside
- Endurance
- Intensity and work-rate in both directions.
- Slick feeds
- Versatility
*MAIN QUERY:
- Over-zealous running
- Kicking effectiveness.
- Tackling technique
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
- Skinny but frenetic, nimble, slick, innovative wing/utility. Incredible work-rate. Ranked mainly on upside based on what he has shown me in many bits and pieces over the last 2 years, rather than on a consistent body of work to date.
Much of this assessment might sound like he has a lot of things going against his chances of AFL. Actually, I really like him. He has been a constant improver and he has already played well in SANFL Seniors finals. I just reckon his output is capable of going from "handy" to "very good AFL" with a number of coachable tweaks and that he is currently raw in various ways but has exciting underlying potential. I've merely tried to focus on the things that you will be able to fairly confidently work on to help him go from "encouraging signs" to realising his real potential.
- I compared his style to the Burgoynes. That is somewhat misleading but he has some similar strengths and weaknesses and "make something out of nothing" capability. He is also very comparable to Jake Surjan in respect to work rate.
- I mentioned "innovative". Here's an example from '06. When the ball bounced shin-high to him (not on the run), he was going to be under some pressure as soon as he took control. Instead of taking possession and trying to quickly feed off, he deftly tapped the ball sideways with the outside of his right boot over onto the chest of a team-mate 3m away. I'm not necessarily agreeing that it was high percentage play but I mention it to highlight the sort of creative thinking and vision this kid possesses. (Incidentally, he then immediately took off downfield - More of that later but just to point out now that he is no lazy party-tricker).
- He has proved himself against men. Not only did he play 10 Seniors games (plus 8 Reserves games), he kicked at least 1 goal in the majority of games and was among North's best in the Seniors Prelim final. What impressed me most though was the fact that at that level and in finals games, he not only acquitted himself well generally but even as in First Dibs clearances in stints onball. For a not quite 18yo (at the time) who weighs just 69kg and is perhaps better known as a wing/forward, that's a decent indication of his AFL potential.
However, although that might make him sound plug 'n play, he is not. He is still very raw and, although he often does clever things, he plays an immature general game style (see below).
- Wasn't seen to best advantage in the '06 U18 Champs and his stats there don't read too impressively but he had just 53% TOG in total.
In fact, he doesn't often get the sort of stats his efforts morally merit. A large part of the reason is that his ethic is so good that he tries to run hard all over the ground to try to get to too many plays, chase too many opponents, and run too often in case an option or support might be needed. And he doesn't just cover ground in a "casual-pace cruising up the corridor" sense. He regularly bobs up literally in all areas of the ground within a couple of minutes, so hard does he push himself, and repeats that pattern most of the game every game. I don't often have cause to say this about a player but I would like to see him actually do less running. That is, ration himself so that when the ball comes into his area he is more frequently best prepared to seize the opportunity and have greater impact. He is currently inclined to be caught rushing to and from so many plays that he often tends to just catch or just miss a subsequent play or not have time to steady himself (mentally and physically). "Less haste, more speed".
He has terrific endurance but he will have to ration his petrol tickets for AFL or he'll be knackered by half-time. I'd rather the challenge of having to pull a hard-running kid back a bit than of having to inject some intensity into a lazy kid. I'm not overly concerned long term as it should addressable by coaching. I mention it mainly to explain why his stats and effectiveness can currently be less that flash over 100 minutes and to highlight a current aspect you will need to be address. In other respects, he is often footy smart (or at least instinctively quick-minded). He's not like a 12yo following the ball around aimlessly, as he is fairly likely to run to a position to defend or into space to create an option, not just towards the ball. It's mainly that he's too enthusiastic. He needs to become less frenetic and more impact-focussed.
That's the key to unlocking his real potential. I can't stress that enough. It impacts on many aspects of his game, including virtually all areas that I have identified in this assessment where he is currently less effective that he could be.
On the assumption you/he fixes this aspect, I upgraded him from "Possible" to "Likely"
Once you get him to run smarter, add a bit of meat on him, and address a couple of other very coachable aspects mentioned below, you'll likely have a good AFL player and quite possibly a terrific one, so untapped is his real potential due to his current over-enthusiastic running. and "freneticism". Not a Judd or McLeod but a "value plus" contributor with flair. At some time or other, I've seen him do something special in every single facit of the game.
- A year ago I might have been a bit concerned re injury durability. Except for a quad strain after the '06 Champs, he has stood up well this season though.
- I would draft him myself and would be prepared to part with a pick as early as my ranking if you thought it necessary (although it presumably won't be). I am confident he will be at least a good AFL player if you fix his main issue.
*DISPOSAL:
- Kicking can be mixed bag but overall I would rate it as "passable". He does some terrific kicks, including pinpoint passes but he duffs his share too. In particular, he sometimes tries to be too cute with dinky "nothing" kicks - and they sometimes coming unstuck.anyway. He needs to focus on getting higher hurt factor from his kicks. His kicking is better than it sometimes looked in the U18 Champs but it needs to become more reliable.
- Kicking style could use a bit of work. Like a lot of kids these days, his kicking action is too left arm dominant and swings his body 90 degrees anti-clockwise on contact. Costs him straight kick-through and proper COM transfer (hence depth and accuracy). His right arm does nothing. Also low take, early release and he is sometimes too stiff for a set shot for goal.
- Depth is at least fairly good but you could watch about 6 of his games without getting a chance to have a real handle on his depth. (He doesn't often kick for distance, preferring the 20-40m range).
- Genuinely dual-sided.
- Very dangerous around goals, especially close to goals. Very quick reflexes, quick to seize an opportunity and snap a goal out of nothing.
- Low kick to feed ratio.
- Handballs are usually accurate, often excellent, sometimes special and he can put power in them. Very quick hands. He is sometimes so slick under great pressure that you think he has fumbled the ball and was lucky it bounced off him into the hands of a nearby team-mate but, when you replay the incident frame by frame, you find he took the pill and fed it off in the same motion.
*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
(see above)
- In close, his decision-making and feeding off are usually reliable and often excellent.
Because he does so much frenetic running, he can find himself at times having to rush his situation assessment and decision-making when caught rushing to or from a play and especially if subsequently needing to kick. Fixable.
Even so, he very often displays poise and good/excellent vision and decision-making, even under great pressure.
- Very quick mind. It is sometimes too quick for U18 and even SANFL Seniors team-mates at times but it will be in its element at AFL tempo and class.
- Reads the play well but needs to make better use of that ability (see comments re too much running).
- Very good at reading the "pack" spill (including ruck contests) and especially dangerous close to goals in this respect.
- Very effective quick side-step under pressure. I'd like to see him use it more often. (See next point).
- Despite his quick hands and reliability of same, there are times when I would prefer him to try to create space for himself to buy a bit of time to perhaps size up an option of greater hurt factor. He doesn't try for cheap options. It's just that his total disposals are capable of having more impact than they currently do.
*HANDS:
- Usually clean, occasionally terrific.
*OVERHEAD MARKING:
- Not a big feature of his game but I've seen him take some very good contested marks. Hands are "usually OK" but he can be inclined to run under the ball or display some other misjudgement at time. Again, that is often when he is arriving a bit late.
*ATHLETICISM:
- Pace is "good". He is often quicker than his DC time of 3.06 might suggest but he is no Danyule Pearce. Pace will improve further once he gets more strength in his quads to give him more drive power. His running action is fairly good (although he overextends his plant foot on occasions, which doesn't allow him proper "heel"-toe flex and COM transference, hence costs him a bit of drive).
- Incredible endurance. Huge motor.
- Good leap.
- Currently Aaron Davey-like skinny but he looks to have a frame that will add "enough" weight.
*INTENSITY, ETHIC:
- Intensity and ethic are huge, especially for a guy with natural flair. Some players with his creative ability tend to only work in one direction and only when they can be bothered (eg Cupido). Not this boy. Tick accountability (to not just his own but also sundry opponents) and all the 1%er boxes. Runs hard both ways and without hesitation. That's good and not so good. (see above).
I can't recall any kid, even including Surjan who would be 2nd, who works on-field as relentlessly hard as Edwards.
- And he wins his own ball and is good one-on-one.
- Attacks the man with zeal, including front on. His tackles sometimes stick at U18 (.i.e. peer) level. Due to his light weight and technique, they often don't currently stick at SANFL Seniors level but physical pressuring will be a major Edwards' asset at AFL level once he bulks up and improves technique. At the moment he often tries to tackle too high up the torso and he is also not sufficiently conscious of the need to plant (brace) his own weight whenever possible and in particular try to first get closer to the opponent's body instead of reaching out as soon as he gets to within arm's length. (I don't mean that in a soft sense but in a "strive to get that extra half step closer" sense). His rate of effectiveness will improve dramatically once he concentrates on the technique improvements.
- When the opposition has the ball, he regularly makes a point of looking for, and manning up on, any free opponent.
*CONSISTENCY:
- Output can be up and down but effort is consistent and will be at AFL also. Possession-wise, he sometimes has big quarters but not often big 4-qtr games. That can, and will, change if/when his major flaw is addressed.
*AFL VERSATILITY:
- Only 180cm but likely to be very versatile. Has shown, even at SANFL Seniors level, a natural aptitude for First Dibs onball role. He will be possibly able to play that role at AFL but it will have to wait a fair while until he has bulked up enough. Meantime at least, his best role would be wing but he is well suited to HFF also. With more bulk, he would also make an excellent running defender, a la McLeod (but not as quick and more accountable). With his huge motor and ethic, he has the potential to be a run-wth.
- Most of the above paragraph is dependent on running energy expenditure (above).
*CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):
(see above)
- No other known factors.
*SOME STATS:
- Stats summary '06 U18 Champs:
Averaged 9 disposals and 1.0 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 12). (Tot TOG 53%).
Averaged 8 kicks per 20 disposals.
Kicks long vs short: 1-4 (2 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 5/11 (4.5 per 10 kicks), incl 2 clangers (1.8 per 10 kicks).
Ineff handballs: 4/16 (2.5 per 10 handballs), incl 1 clangers (0.6/10 hb).
Ineffective disposals: 9/27 (6.7 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.2 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 7/27 (5.2 per 20 disp). Uncontested marks: 3/27 (2.2 per 20 disp). HR+UM: 10/27 (7.4 per 20 disp).
Contested marks: 0 (0.0 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 4/27 (3.0 per 20 disp).
SP Clears: 2/27 (1.5 per 20 disp), incl 1 CBC (0.7/20 disp) and 0 other BU (0.0/20 disp).
Tackles: 5 (Avg 1.7 per game).
*OTHER STUFF:
- Injury-affected '05 and quad injury end of July '06.
10 Seniors games, 8 Reserves games '06. Some handy SANFL seniors form incl Prelim final.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4177.0
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Edwards is smooth. Hands like diesel
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For fans of Titch ;D, here is Colin Wisbey's profile of Edwards prior to him being drafted in 2006.
Great reading thanks Cyclops. Unbelievable analysis, much of which has come to fruition still 6 years later.
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Is a damn good player
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Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later
Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input
He was rubbish on a HBF
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
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Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later
Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input
He was rubbish on a HBF
Agree with you Daniel, I've jumped on and off over the years but his last couple of seasons have been decent.
You forgot WAT - he's been singing about Edwards for years and years and years and years! I'm just not sure what type of song though.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ekz_CSBVg ?
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Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later
Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input
He was rubbish on a HBF
Agree with you Daniel, I've jumped on and off over the years but his last couple of seasons have been decent.
You forgot WAT - he's been singing about Edwards for years and years and years and years! I'm just not sure what type of song though.
Yep, for years and years and years and years and....FFS 6 years, have we honestly put up with him for that long to produce one good year.....OMFG! No wonder we haven't made the finals....... Lets hope with the decent players around him next year he will get better... :whistle
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:lol
But you still haven't told us what song you're singing. ;D
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.
Here are a few of his thoughts:
2006 Draft
CATEGORY ONE - WILL BE TOP SHELF (roughly in the order of their upside but allowing for my level of confidence in them achieving it):
HOULI, Bachar (42 Essendon) [8]
Injury-prone (only major AFL query is durability) but smart, classy midfielder/HFF. Very good OHF and NHF (negative hurt factor). Not outside per se but, so far, has played the game on his own terms at his own pace, Predator style "off the pack" a la Shakleton,, and is on good terms with himself. Very footy-smart and potentially more athletic than his appearance/style have suggested. I've always suspected he treated underage footy with almost contempt. Will leave no stone unturned and I believe he will not only shine at AFL level but show us a more rounded game (re on-field work rate). Historical concerns re his endurance and pace but I am convinced that, when injury-free, he will have excellent endurance and quite good pace. Absolute bargain.
Others he rated as 'top shelf'..... Thorp, Sellar, Djerrkura, Albert Proud, Leroy Jetta :lol
CATEGORY TWO - WILL BE AT LEAST GOOD
HISLOP, Tom (20 Essendon) [10]
Aggressive powerhouse. Plug n play. Versatile bullish onballer/flanker who can play small or above his height, has fairly good pace, takes no prisoners, always gives a contest and gets a lot of contested ball but currently doesn't look for, take or hit the right option often enough - too often kicks long instead of looking for short options (hand or foot). Other main concern AFL-wise might be over-aggression. Main selling points are physicality, competitiveness, courage, intensity, overhead, endurance, balance, strength, consistency. Trademarks are (1) Hardball get, then hurried disposal, (2) Crunch a pack or an opponent, perhaps taking a very strong mark that he has no right to take. Often clean, especially at ground level in "static" situations (although not "routinely: clean overall). If not for the somewhat high number of blind and other inaccurate kicks, I would rank him about #5. I love his competitiveness and aggression at both man and ball but he must start getting better return from his possession tally. Kicking was better in VFL than at U18. He is not a bad kick per se. Good depth and dual-sided. The issue is reliability. Kicking style needs work. He tilts to the left, which limits your error margin over a short distance, and his arm movements need work. IMHO it is important for both arms to work virtually in sync, helping your body stay balanced, both laterally and vertically. Hislop's arms are way out of synch and affect his centre-of-mass transfer and his ability to kick directly through the ball. Left arm often spends time bent at 90 degrees upwards then comes forward and across his body, while his right arm stays back, hangs down and does nothing. By the end of his kick he is often off-balance. Those faults should be fairly "easily" fixed and will make a big difference to his kicking reliability. Hislop and Armitage are similar types, age, great endurance and both are virtually plug 'n play. Both courageous hardnuts with good work rate and both with sub-optimal disposal. Hislop has more pace, is a bit physically stronger, and is the better kick. Hislop arguably has greater impact too. I would definitely take Hislop over Armitage, much as I admire Armitage. Jetta is X-factor vs risk but is a very quick, electrifying magician and is capable of being a quality user (not that he is yet). Hislop is none of those but he will deliver for you every time, whereas Jetta will switch on when it suits him. Jetta's pace, daring, flair and disposal makes him potentially much more of an impact player. Hislop is more a player who stops the opposition having impact through his hardness at man and ball but he too can turn a game. Likes to take opponents on and carry the ball and is often, although not routinely, judicious. Astute in corralling an opponent but usually prefers the bone-crunching tackle or bump. I have been impressed re how very switched on and intelligent he is at the 1/4, 3/4 huddles. With ever-increasing sophistication of team game plans, being able to be on the same page as the coach is more important than ever. Exceptionally strong overhead for his size, especially the big screamer from behind but can mark from any angle/position and attacks his marks / hits the pack like there's no tomorrow. He is on the slower end of the "quick midfielder" scale rather than the quicker end of the "slightly slowish midfielder" scale. Probably best suited to HBF or onball but, despite being only 184cm, is versatile enough to play anywhere down the flanks. Could be exposed by a very quick or very tall opponent but, even then, is likely to be at least mainly competitive, such is his ability to play tall yet also have enough pace and smarts to know where to run, how to cut angles and how to pressure both aerially and at ground level. Has the motor and competitiveness to become an excellent run-with (in time) and that's the role in which I possibly favour him.
EDWARDS, Shane (26 Richmond) [26]
Skinny but nimble, slick, innovative, goes hard. Ranked on upside
COLLARD, Clayton (31 Fremantle) [13]
Highly skilled midfielder/ flanker. Painfully shy and naive about the workload required for AFL so will need quality mentoring but definitely has AFL ability. Query re ability to adapt so is some risk but he has big upside, class and some X-factor. Other main selling points are X-factor, smarts / vision, clean hands, evasion, balance, overhead. Trademarks are (1) Vacuum the ball off the carpet on the run, take on and perhaps make a fool of the oncoming opponent, then dob a nice goal or set a team mate up to do so, (2) Screamer. He might lose concentration before getting to the last page of the team's play book but, for every hair he might make you tear out, he'll give you a moment where you will feel smug that he is on your list. Has mainly played outside roles (HFF) but I am confident he will furnish into an inside mid option in time if/when he can get his endurance up enough. I compare him in style somewhat to Tyson Edwards but I also think he will be able (in time) to play all the roles that Tyson has played. Has always lived in the shadow, on and off-field, of his best mate, Jetta, It's often "Jetta, the star footballer, and his mate Collard". If both play AFL and get the most out of themselves, I believe Jetta will be the better player but with Collard probably not far behind. There seems a tendency in recruiting circles to talk as if Jetta is Collard's better performed younger brother. However Collard was the better performed in WAFL Seniors, was also named in '06 WA Seniors (!) state squad, and Jetta is actually 5 months older. On sheer ability, I rate Collard's AFL potential as "Definite" and only one aspect made me downgrade him to "Likely", viz "How well and quickly is he likely to settle in and feel like he belongs?". My only other significantly concern is the O.P. he has been battling. His DC weight was listed as 86kg but his fighting weight would currently be around 80kg. He "couldn't" (?) keep himself in good condition while suffering O.P. late season. Career-wise, Collard and Jetta getting split up into different states may be the best thing for both boys. Clayton can stop living in Leroy's shadow and that will be a watershed point in his development. I would definitely have been prepared to draft him with a pick around my ranking if necessary (not that it ever would have been). Assuming he settles in reasonably OK (!!), I am confident Collard will make as big a splash as most of this draft's first rounders, perhaps ready to debut in '07.
GRIGG, Shaun (19 Carlton) [39]
Consistent tall mid but burns ball way too often by foot. I have identified basic flaws in his kicking technique which should be fixable. If I somehow knew for certain that such flaws would be identified and fixed, he'd be one of the first be in this category, would have earned a very much earlier ranking from me, and I would have confidently labelled him "definite AFL 200 gamer". Kicking is probably his only major flaw as he is otherwise a very attractive package. His current kicking reliability is almost a show-stopper though.
CATEGORY FIVE - These players caused me MUCH ANGST in assessing their AFL potential Every recruiter has some kids whose AFL potential he is just not confident in nailing, one way or the other, no matter how much he has studied them or due to lack of exposure. These are mine (in draft order):
CONNORS, Daniel (58 RIC) [32]
Very ordinary '05 but huge improver in '06. Vision, poise, clean hands. Can be very good both one-on-one and inside traffic. Can be very slick and left-field clever. Good (but often too ambitious) overhead (and has a significant reach advantage). Soso pace. Plays too much on his own terms. Current endurance is poor, I suspect due to a combination of bulking up 10kg in '06, lack of off-field application, and perhaps not naturally having a big tank. Hypothetically, if I had some guarantee he would work hard (especially off-field but also on-field), I might have included him in my "Will be at least good" category as his best is AFL. Given his current physical condition, application has to be questioned. (Oddly enough, despite all that, he occasionally displays the odd leadership trait). I like on-field arrogance but he overdoes it. He needs to play the percentages more, less millionairish and respect his limitations. By way of comparison, Connors' kicking, although he is no stranger to clangers, is miles better (overall reliability and best kicks) than Grigg's (whose kicking reliability and quality are both sub-standard). However, I identified major flaws in Grigg's kicking action that should be addressable, making Grigg a fairly attractive package overall and I can identify a number of AFL roles (especially onball) that I could see Griggs being able to fill. Even though Connors' best attributes are more AFL-impressive than Grigg's, I find it harder to identify either scope for Connors to lift his pace or, in particular, reasons to automatically assume he will develop good endurance and work ethic, so Connors as a total package (strengths and concerns) ultimately had less appeal to me due to concerns over "What AFL role can I, with any confidence(!), see him making his own?" (although he could at least pinch-hit in various roles forward, back and mid). That said, I would not be surprised if he makes AFL or even becomes quite good AFL. It's mainly up to him and how much he wants to make it. I do rate his best qualities (his best efforts reek of class) but the risks (or really the degree of speculation required) were too great for me to consider drafting him at my ranking number (which reflects his upside more than my confidence in him achieving it). However, he was a reasonable pick-up at #58, although I wouldn't have been personally keen to take on the risks, given other options available at that pick.
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:lol
But you still haven't told us what song you're singing. ;D
:thumbsup, ok I am supportive of every player, yes even Edwards, but for years his stupid mistakes and turnovers have done my head in so my song is I will support him but geez if he stuffs up look out.....if he gets it together I was right he is great..... :lol
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2005
Will be AT LEAST GOOD
OAKLEY-NICHOLLS, Jarrad [8] [Ric]
Silky tallish speedster. More Porsche than 4WD but has X-factor. Big upside. :rollin
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2005
Will be AT LEAST GOOD
OAKLEY-NICHOLLS, Jarrad [8] [Ric]
Silky tallish speedster. More Porsche than 4WD but has X-factor. Big upside. :rollin
:rollin
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.
Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
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Daniel Jackson (Oakleigh Chargers)
186/88 bottom-age right foot (has left if necessary) versatile midfielder / utility.
Not a basketballer, not a soccer player but ... a rower. A bloody rower! A rower though who took his oars out of the water for a while, stepped onto a TAC footy field and created his own waves almost immediately.
Will go later than I rank him, but perhaps still as early as round 2 though.
My unheralded hit pick of the future. The order of my rankings does essentially reflect the extent to which I fancy the players but I have made various concessions in the order to partly accommodate marketability and factors like gut feel speculation versus proven track record. You won't need to use pick 11 to get Jackson and he is basically unproven so conventional wisdom dictates he is not worth anything like pick 11. However, if I was at the draft table, the first pick I had after about pick 8 I would use on Jackson and not risk missing out on him later. A big call, especially for a rower newbie who averaged only 12 disposals in his 8 TAC games, but that's how confident I am that he has very serious AFL potential despite bugger-all footy background. Certainly ready by year 2, despite giving a head start to his peers and still being on the early part of the learning curve. Again despite those factors, it would not even surprise me if he played some games in year 1.
There was talk he may not nominate this year but I hope he does. He is very bottom-age and, as a footy newbie, a full year of TAC in '04 would help him learn the game at a very comfortable level. However, indications are that he would thrive in the environment of an AFL club and I think his learning would be better fast-tracked there.
*STYLE LIKE: Voss :lol
*TRADEMARK:
- Run straight into oncoming traffic, clean hands gather on the move inside the traffic, show great balance and poise, spot quickly then long accurate, powerful feed out the other side of the traffic. :lol
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
I shudder to think how good this kid would have been by now had he always been a footballer. He strikes me as a natural. :lol
He is one of those kids who could probably turn his hand to just about any sport and make a fist of it. As it happens he is also a high jump champ.
Athletically, physically and mentally, he brings to footy the following:-
- Great leap. In terms of DC tests, I focus on a kid's best running jump on his preferred take-off leg. Jackson beat 73% of the 168 DC/SS players tested.
- Genuine pace in a power, balanced-in-the-run, glide over the turf style. Beat 93% of DC/SS kids in the 5m test and 79% in the 20m.
- Willingness to push himself. Beat 79% in the Beep test.
- Body shape. Has a very good build and size already. Powerful (as you would expect from a strong rower). 186cm and 88kg, And even his first AFL pre-season will improve it further. His skin-fold reading only beat 24% of the DC/SS participants
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Jacko is still learning the game. ;D
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As it happens he is also a high jump champ.
Athletically, physically and mentally, he brings to footy the following:-
- Great leap.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wAxDMfEGhoY/TSPwVvmmCPI/AAAAAAAAAYk/EVziTMTini0/s400/Not%2BSure%2Bif%2Bserious.jpg)
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.
Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.
Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
Tigers
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pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.
Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
Tigers
Nah I'm wrong. I got Wiseby and Weaver mixed up. Weaver is the Tiger supporter who now works for Collingwood.
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At Collingwood now? He did originally go to the Eagles. Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.
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*does Google search*
A guy who used to post on Tiger-Talk and Big Footy who I'm sure many will know or know of - Damien Streets (Weaver) posted a theory a number of years ago about midfielders and he used the descriptor "overflowing hamburger". He said that like a hamburger - you keep adding ingredients, it starts to hang out the sides until it overflows past the edges of the bun and you can't keep it contained within the bun no matter what you try - the key to a successful team was to stack your midfield with as many good mids as you could get, the more the better, as no opposition could counter a team full of good mids. He acknowledged the importance of key position players but said the overriding factor was the quality and quantity of mids. He quoted all of the recent successful teams (he posted this years ago but his theory has held true since) and each one had a midfield that met this criteria. This is what we are building now and I'm sure it is why the club concentrated more heavily on drafting mids in the early TW/GM years before 'filling in the blanks' over the last couple of years. I (and many others) have a lot of respect for Damien's opinions and views (he is a very astute judge of draft candidates), and he has since been employed in the footy department of a rival club (hence his disappearance from the forums) so it points to the value some in the industry place on his opinion and knowledge. I think we will continue to see our hamburger overflow this year and the results will speak for themselves.
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At Collingwood now? He did originally go to the Eagles. Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.
Who knows? I wouldn't trust my info, I seem to be very confused. Collingwood is what I heard but I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
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At Collingwood now? He did originally go to the Eagles. Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.
Who knows? I wouldn't trust my info, I seem to be very confused. Collingwood is what I heard but I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
You could well be right, I haven't heard much of him at all in recent years. He basically went 'underground' from posting on forums after he was employed (and rightly so) so he could be anywhere.
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Surely Streets had some role in a decent footy club before he went to the AFL. Never heard of a random on the internet getting a recruiting gig because of stuff they write on Big Footy ;D
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Dunno Coach, I've never met him personally but he was the originator of one of the first fan forums from any club - tiger-talk - back in March '96 and was very active in there until he went west. I think he might have also been a Mod on BF but someone who reads there might be able to confirm that. He was certainly very respected in footy circles by many who interacted with the forums but what experience he had outside of that I really don't know. It's not beyond the realms though to apply for a job and get an interview despite a lack of 'classical' experience - he might have been able to win the gig through sheer depth of knowledge and/or insights.
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He's done well for himself either way.
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on edwards
ive been a constant critic ever since we drafted him.
ive based as usual all criticisms on strengths weakneses and performance.
thing is when one criticices him you a hater when one praises him your a ship jumper.
for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.
based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.
what do we make of it if he reverts back to what has been the norm and that is below standard . i cannot say with any sort of confidence that this wont happen.
what do we say if he continues on from the 12 or so games from this yr. maybe we can say hallelujah it looks like hes found some real consistency of performance and finally taken the next step.
to me what is overlooked is a 180cm sml player who has his limitations by the way is still being questioned over if hes going to be good enough after 6 yrs in the system.
i liked his last 12 or so games i really hope he can finally string some consitency together i really hope the gap from shizen to good continues to narrow.
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Yep pretty sure Weaver works at collingwood, the work he put into his phantom drafts and his obvious passion and knowledge got him the gig. Lucky bastard but good on him.
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if he does its only a minor role (assistant in WA or SA?). The colonwoood site gives a fair list of recruiting staff and his name isn't on it
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for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.
based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.
2 of his past 3 seasons (10,12) by your own admission have been pretty good. In 2011 he was curtailed by a serious shoulder injury and he dropped away.
He's now well entrenched in the best 22 but no doubt he could improve further. I think he can too.
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for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.
based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.
2 of his past 3 seasons (10,12) by your own admission have been pretty good. In 2011 he was curtailed by a serious shoulder injury and he dropped away.
He's now well entrenched in the best 22 but no doubt he could improve further. I think he can too.
I agree Magic. He has definitely made inroads into bulking up, his kicking improved substantially in the second half of last season and I am confident he will continue to rise up the ranks in 2013. :thumbsup
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Now that Edwards has moved into top 4 in the B&F contention, shed his whipping boy disguise, and become the superstar we all knew he secretly was, will the featherweight champion Andy Collins be brought back into the fold via the rookie draft so he can be joyously whipped by thy horny nuff nuff brethren while we laugh at carltank?
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Now that Edwards has moved into top 4 in the B&F contention, shed his whipping boy disguise, and become the superstar we all knew he secretly was, will the featherweight champion Andy Collins be brought back into the fold via the rookie draft so he can be joyously whipped by thy horny nuff nuff brethren while we laugh at carltank?
gerks I think We'll need a bigger boat! ;D
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:lol......
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Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....
Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.
If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o
Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers
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And best of all WAT he has you to thank for that if he does
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And best of all WAT he has you to thank for that if he does
Can't even be positive and post constructive comments without a stupid comment in return from the forum clown.....shouldn't expect anymore from you though Pluck..
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Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....
Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.
If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o
Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers
Where's WAT and how did you hack his account?
;D
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Good to see you coming round WAT. 8)
Edwards is on the up. No looking back from here.
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He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
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He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
Maybe. ;D
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can assure u all he will have a better year than foley and nahas
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He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!
Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.
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Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....
Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.
If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o
Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers
Where's WAT and how did you hack his account?
;D
:lol...all jokes aside, like I said, I have thougt about it very hard over the past few weeks....also looked at countless replays when at home...
I am on the wagon... :thumbsup
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He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!
Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.
To be fair to WAT, he was asked to put a block on Shed banter pre season last year and did, from memory it only lasted until the 5 minute mark of the 1st qtr of round 1 match but he was a man if his word :thumbsup
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He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!
Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.
To be fair to WAT, he was asked to put a block on Shed banter pre season last year and did, from memory it only lasted until the 5 minute mark of the 1st qtr of round 1 match but he was a man if his word :thumbsup
Yes thank you Y&B, you are right, thought it was the last quater though... ;D
Now, I will go the year without bagging him for no valid reason..... ;)
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:lol...all jokes aside, like I said, I have thougt about it very hard over the past few weeks....also looked at countless replays when at home...
I am on the wagon... :thumbsup
:) :clapping
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He's not going to get much better. He's always going to be a decent player capable of the odd quality game. Expect anything more and you'll be disappointed. Just appreciate that he's improved and at the very, very worst he adds good depth for the future
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Richmond's Shane Edwards discovers his heritage about 80km from Alice Springs
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
February 11, 2013
THE bitumen lasts about 10 minutes as the road sweeps south from Alice Springs.
Then it's a vibrating combination of rocks, gravel and red dirt - interrupted by wild horses - before you get to Santa Teresa 80-odd kilometres down the road.
It takes an hour to get there, but for Shane Edwards it has taken a lot longer.
In fact, it has taken the Richmond forward all of his 24 years to truly arrive at this tiny Aboriginal settlement.
Edwards discovered little more than two weeks ago that his family heritage could be traced back to Santa Teresa, a town with nothing more than a store, school, health building and a sandy footy oval.
For Edwards, whose shyness prevented the Tigers and the AFL from becoming aware of his indigenous heritage for the first 18 months of his career, it is the latest piece in an emotional family puzzle he is piecing together with the help of his grandmother, Monica.
"It's just amazing, I can't believe how far back it goes now," Edwards said.
"Knowing what my grandmother had to do to find out where she came from. She's just done it through years and years of work. She was raised through the Catholic church and has just gone back to everyone she knew."
Edwards was born in Adelaide to parents Tara and Greg.
His grandmother Monica - on his mum's side - is indigenous and his great grandmother Elsie had lived in Santa Teresa before she and her brother were taken from their mum Annie (Edwards' great-great-grandmother).
All hail from the Arrernte tribe, one of the biggest in central Australia.
"They were taken down to Mt Gambier because they were half-caste," Edwards said.
"From there they went across to Adelaide. As long as I've known my grandmother she has lived in Salisbury (a suburb north-east of Adelaide)."
Edwards had been to Santa Teresa once before on a Richmond pre-season camp a few years ago.
But back then he was oblivious to his links to the area as he clowned around with teammates Dustin Martin and Kel Moore and the local kids.
It is why, during his second visit to the town last week, he quietly sneaked away for a precious moment of reflection and to take some photos.
"It was so much different this time," Edwards said.
"In one of the classrooms as soon as I said my great-grandmother's last name (Summerfield) the assistant principal recognised it like it was still around.
"I think that's amazing in any area to have a name still lingering.
"I loved saying, 'This is where I'm from'. If I don't, I've got no chance of finding out any more. I'm just lucky that I've got the opportunity to play for Richmond and to actually go to a place like Santa Teresa.
"My brother Kym, living in Adelaide, is just as curious as I am, but he doesn't get the opportunity to go."
Edwards was bestowed the honour of captaining Richmond against the Indigenous All-Stars in Alice Springs on Friday.
After the game, while his teammates let their hair down at Lasseters Hotel and Ca-sino, Edwards was in a separate room meeting 40 members of the extended family he never knew he had.
There were more than a few tears.
Belinda Duarte, director of Richmond's Korin Gamadji Institute at Punt Rd, was there - and has been there throughout Edwards' journey of discovery.
"The one thing people don't necessarily know about Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander communities is the depth that they want to connect with family given the issues around the stolen generation," Duarte said.
"For Shane, having that in his history and to go back on the weekend and meet his family was really special.
"Seeing him go through that and sharing that with him as an Aboriginal person, we collectively feel that - because it's a part of that connection to home.
"It's the history that we inherit and what I love about our people is seeing the immensity of love and welcome. I'm getting teary just speaking about it.
"Given our history it wasn't a choice for us to experience a disconnect from family, it was a consequence of government policy."
Edwards believes the urge to find out more about his family's past has been fuelled by a developing maturity and his status as Richmond's only indigenous player.
His family tree is growing before his eyes and he is growing with it.
"I just said to my family that I wanted to know the finer details about everything. I was getting really curious," Edwards said.
Edwards has come a long way from his early days in yellow and black, when most of his Richmond teammates did not even know he was indigenous.
He wasn't invited to indigenous training camps and was left off official AFL indigenous lists.
He even played in the Dreamtime game against Essendon without being recognised.
He has always been proud of his heritage, but said he "didn't really speak up".
"Apart from not having such a cultured upbringing and that fact that I was pretty shy coming into the system, I didn't really know how to bring it up," he said.
"I guess that shows how much the AFL has improved over the years since, and that was only seven years ago, when it comes to finding people lost in the system.
"Belinda found out and we just started talking. She was like, 'We've got to get you involved' and I was like, 'I want to be'. She was pretty surprised and a bit upset that it wasn't known.
"But I reckon all this has definitely matured me. Just the fact that I now know more about myself and more about my family.
"One side of my family is so pieced together, but this side, it's not until the last couple of years that I've found out about real places and people."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-shane-edwards-discovers-his-heritage-about-80km-from-alice-springs/story-fnelctok-1226574891488
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Thats good to hear, I think it's important to know your heratige, in for a big year is our Shane.. :thumbsup
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He played well the other night. One of our best few.
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He played well the other night. One of our best few.
Thats good to hear, thought he would of played for the All Stars though.
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Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
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Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
:lol....it's funny cause it's true.
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VIDEO: Titch in the Alice
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-12/edwards-in-alice
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Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
:lol....it's funny cause it's true.
Lol its going to be a long season watching him go round
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Great article. Shane is rated very highly internally at the club.
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Always showed ability, has just taken time to mature physically. Number 10 is emerging from the vitriol
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Titch's profile page on the RFC website has him at 93kg. I don't think so ;D.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/shane-edwards
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Titch's profile page on the RFC website has him at 93kg. I don't think so ;D.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/shane-edwards
That Essendon diet. :whistle
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Thats good to hear, I think it's important to know your heratige, in for a big year is our Shane.. :thumbsup
Certainly is :whistle
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Just finished watching both NAB games and I am home for the game today....YAY
I think Shane is actually looking like a footballer now, he seems to of bulked up a bit upstairs. Only concern I have is he did try to get a bit fancy a couple of times and he tackling let him down. But in all honesty he did play well and it's only the first hit out. I will really be looking forward to him playing today and in round one!
Certainly looks more rounded as a footballer this year.
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You forgot to put the end world tags around your post. :shh [/world]
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You forgot to put the end world tags around your post. :shh [/world]
WTF... :huh :huh
Not baiting are you??????
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You forgot to put the end world tags around your post. :shh [/world]
WTF... :huh :huh
Not baiting are you??????
I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it.
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You forgot to put the end world tags around your post. :shh [/world]
WTF... :huh :huh
Not baiting are you??????
I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it.
Sorry.. :thumbsup and thanks.
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You forgot to put the end world tags around your post. :shh [/world]
WTF... :huh :huh
Not baiting are you??????
I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it.
Lets just wait until he has a few ordinary games before handing out the kudos
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been a long time since he had an ordinary game... he is the quiet achiever and gets stuff all credit
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VIDEO: Shane Edwards talks about the preseason post-Bulldogs game
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-03-18/preseason-round-4-edwards-post-match
Talented utility Shane Edwards is confident the hard-fought wins Richmond secured during the AFL’s pre-season series will produce a positive flow-on effect for the team going into the 2013 premiership season.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-18/ready-for-the-real-thing
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lol @ Rance! :lol
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lol @ Rance! :lol
Doesn't everyone?
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Primed for a big year the Shed
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Primed for a big year the Shed
Must get in amongst the goals in round one, has the ability, needs to show up the carlscum indigenous players....
Go Shane!!!
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Just finished watching both NAB games and I am home for the game today....YAY
I think Shane is actually looking like a footballer now, he seems to of bulked up a bit upstairs. Only concern I have is he did try to get a bit fancy a couple of times and he tackling let him down. But in all honesty he did play well and it's only the first hit out. I will really be looking forward to him playing today and in round one!
Certainly looks more rounded as a footballer this year.
Did you see a game of football last season? He was easily in our top 10 players all year
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Edwards' hands in heavy traffic are elite ..
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Best hands since Greg Williams.
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Yes played ok the other night, great hands.
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This is not a new thing. He's always had elite hands.
Wasn't his best game but did a few good things, like others seemed to struggle a little in the last term.
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This is not a new thing. He's always had elite hands.
Wasn't his best game but did a few good things, like others seemed to struggle a little in the last term.
He was just like the others in the last MM, absolutely stuffed, they were spent.
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Edwards' hands in heavy traffic are elite ..
Joy to watch.
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had a cracker today
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Best hands in the business
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12 contested possession :shh
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While I agree, I still prefer him forward
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Did it all today, won the ball, kicked goals, created them - brilliant
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GUN... BECOMING A STAR
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Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.
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Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.
come on gimme a break a couple of unforced errors
cotch made a few but u r not complaining
facts are he is no1 for pressure acts in our team had 22 touches 2 goals and is also leading our score involvements
edwards is vital to our team
admit it it what edwards is IN
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Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.
come on gimme a break a couple of unforced errors
cotch made a few but u r not complaining
facts are he is no1 for pressure acts in our team had 22 touches 2 goals and is also leading our score involvements
edwards is vital to our team
admit it it what edwards is IN
WTF??? I was not having a crack, where was I complaining?? Get over yourself.
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:lol strange. Didn't take WAT's post as a crack at all. Was a pretty accurate assessment. Cotch didn't do a Chris Mayne. :lol :lol
WAT is well and truly on the Titch bandwagon. :clapping
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:lol strange. Didn't take WAT's post as a crack at all. Was a pretty accurate assessment. Cotch didn't do a Chris Mayne. :lol :lol
WAT is well and truly on the Titch bandwagon. :clapping
:thumbsup.....great hands yesterday too!
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GUN... BECOMING A STAR
He's getting closer to being a very very good player for us. more consistency over a longer period of time and some of us could be eating humble pie. He has improved out of sight and well done to him. Deserves credit for the improvement.
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His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.
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been sayin it for years :shh
nice of sheddsy to finally catch up ;D
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His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.
Sam Mitchell
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His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.
Sam Mitchell
Good call,But being Biased abit gets Edwards over the line. ;D
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Shane got Sam covered.
Quicker, lighter, faster, more agile, more aboriginal xfactor, swifter, :shh
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His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.
Sam Mitchell
Good call,But being Biased abit gets Edwards over the line. ;D
:gotigers
Nothing wrong with coming second to Mitchell
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Shane got Sam covered.
Quicker, lighter, faster, more agile, more aboriginal xfactor, swifter, :shh
Just on Aboriginal x factor. Would people call it racist if someone called it "white person consistency"?
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Shane Edwards is black enough to have x-factor like Goodes yet white enough to have Shane Mitchell '"white person consistency"'.
This may be the year he goes past Gibbs as the #1 South Australian from his draft pool. :shh
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Bet the Crows would love to have him right now. ;D
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i been on his wagon ever since he danced around a few in his 1st game weighing about 50kgs, was all over him when he kicked that goal baulking 3 players along the goal line against the Lions.
Now reveling in the love for him by all :cheers
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I remember watching his Dad play, and thinking gee I hope he has a son who one day gets drafted by Richmond, that's how long I've been on the bandwagon.
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I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school after a premonition that he was gonna be born and play for us and I worshipped that plasticine Sheddy like a mofo. I even mixed in some protein powder into the playdough so he could put on some more muscle mass.
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I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school
That's a worry, that was my Form 6 year! :help
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I saw Sheds in a piece of toast once.
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I saw Sheds in a piece of toast once.
Did you keep the toast for resale value?
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I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school
That's a worry, that was my Form 6 year! :help
Form 6, geez you must be old ;)
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:shh
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even i can call him an old fart :lol
notice the birth year has been removed from the handle :police:
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Hey, a bit of respect for your elders!!
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I remember watching his Dad play, and thinking gee I hope he has a son who one day gets drafted by Richmond, that's how long I've been on the bandwagon.
I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school after a premonition that he was gonna be born and play for us and I worshipped that plasticine Sheddy like a mofo. I even mixed in some protein powder into the playdough so he could put on some more muscle mass.
Stuffing LMFAO
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was our best last night :clapping
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gunna give some credit where its due. played real well for the most part. only criticism and its a constant is the basic errors continue. just too many.
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He seems to be learning not to kick though which is even better when you have the hands like he does
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His hands in close are superb, able to dish out passes that split open packs. Happened a number of times against Freo.
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:bow
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Probably one of the only ones that can hold his head up at the moment.
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This bloke deserves a kudos. Last year stood out because he was playing forward and kicking goals. This year playing great and going under the radar since playing in the guts. Yesterday 21 possies, 14 contested at 66%. Eight clearances, pinged it inside 50 5 times and piled on 8 tackles. 9 clangers and a gave away a few frees but all part and parcel of the position but will only get cleaner as he spends more time there.
Eade mentioned a few weeks back that Edwards has gone up a level but isn't getting the notice due to the focus going into Cotchin, Deledio and Martin. Good to Edwards could keep it up yesterday without Cotchin in the side.
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Hands like silk.
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Still needs to work on his kicking, stop trying to do too much, and if there is one thing that i wish he would eradicate it's the over the head handballs. Looks great when it hits one of his teammates, problem is 80% of the time it goes to the opposition or gets paid a throw. Cut it out bro.
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Average 20 touches a game.
Undroppable
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Bents isn't Grigg averaging about 20 touches too?..he seems to be bordering magoos
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Shane Edwards > grigg
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Edwards doesn't even average 20
20.7 > 19.3
Grigg > Edwards
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Nup
Shane is vastly superior
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But Grigg averages 20 touches, undroppable
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Edwards Shane . Wins inside contested ball.
His hands are.magic and creative.
His speed and smarts is vital.
Grigg was the sub indicateing he is viewed behind stewards according to he coach.
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I am surprised at the weight of opinion Shane is not best 22.
Given his handball ability, agility / elusiveness and the only real forward pocket in the team I think he is vital.
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People have Issues with his form not his ability. You seem to have trouble processing that.
I wanted him dropped last week because I thought he was out of form. He Was better on the weekend, as was Grigg, so if I were to drop anyone for Tuck it would be Biccy.
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His form had dropped to the point where his name would have come up at selection committee for the first time in a long time. Better game yes and something to build on for next week but again a couple of howlers by foot. He should narrow down his kicking repertoire to long field kicks only, let's face it his short passes are either inaccurate or get picked off. I thought one of his strengths this year was that he accepted his limitations as a player and concentrated on areas that he is good at-handballing, harassing, stealing the pill and zipping away like his sars is on fire. A couple of 2-3 goal games leading into the finals would be nice too.
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If we make the finals that is 8)
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Flying under the radar this year for all the wrong reasons....
Not in our worst but nearly always not in our top 12-15.
Gee whiz bloke any chance of impacting a game for christs sake?
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Trade him for a tall backman
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was terrible today
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Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol
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Flying under the radar this year for all the wrong reasons....
Not in our worst but nearly always not in our top 12-15.
Gee whiz bloke any chance of impacting a game for christs sake?
Has had a very bad past month. Was much better earlier in the year.
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He is a small forward!
NOT A MIDFIELDER HARDWICK!
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He is a small forward!
NOT A MIDFIELDER HARDWICK!
X2 :clapping
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Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol
Consider this thread an invitation/reprieve to be constructive
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back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career
has done absolutely nothing for 2 months
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Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol
Consider this thread an invitation/reprieve to be constructive
Ok, so I used to have a real go at Shane because he wasn't consistent, made too many unforced errors and looked lost in just about every position he played in, he was also easily thrown/bumped/outworked off the ball. He has been like this for most of his career bar one season, the season before he was injured.
Bring on 2013.....He has played very well up until about 3-4 rounds ago when he has started top revert back to the old Shane, inconsistent, clumsy, looking out of place in an AFL side..This is why I made the comment years ago that he would just not make it and that he is only in the side to fill the numbers.
Players like Vlastuin, Conca, Ellis, Arnott, Houli, Chaplin, Etc.. have joined the club and have had more of an impact.
I think Shane has reached his peak, if we can call it that.
I think if we were offered a trade at the end of the year for Shane and he agreed to it, I think it's best for both parties if they parted ways. Shane's "quick hands" is all he has going for him at the moment and even that is letting him down now. :-\
He either needs to lift his game or be dropped to Coburg to try and reinvent himself as a crumbing forward (where he should be left)or a decision needs to be made at the end of the year.
This is merely my observation.
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back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career
has done absolutely nothing for 2 months
Better footballer than Nahas.
Edwards guile, ability, elusiveness and Aboriginesness will come in handy down the track.
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back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career
has done absolutely nothing for 2 months
Better footballer than Nahas.
Edwards guile, ability, elusiveness and Aboriginesness will come in handy down the track.
What the hell does his culture have to do with it???????? :huh :huh :huh
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just pulling your leg
:cheers
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just pulling your leg
:cheers
;)
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Indigenous International Rules squad :clapping
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what a rubbish footballer this bloke is.
what 15 good games in his career.
wish he would stuff off back where he came from. up in alice go play local footy with his cousin aaron davey.
2 poo idiots in the same team.
perfect
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i think the criticisms of edwards has not been that he cant play some decent footy at a level that is beneficial to the team, but his ability to maintain that level.
had good 14 or so games last yr and started okay this yr.
hes dropped off to what does seem to be his consistent level and its not good enough. ive always had issues to varying degrees with his size pace and skills. its these things that keep on coming back and stopping him from playing at the required level.
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So where does everyone sit with Shane now? Tradable??
Will he get any better? Have we seen his best? What happened to him as he was travelling pretty good early.
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like i said last year, year before, and year before that
Trade
cant play in the midfield, hardly kicks goals so what good is he
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He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
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Trade
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Trade or small forward. Midfield is not the place for him.
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He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward
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Shane seems to be getting off lightly.......again. :whistle
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Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.
Been in the system 7 seasons.
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He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward
x 2
He is a small forward Hardwick!
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He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward
x 2
He is a small forward Hardwick!
But he did poo when he played there the other night. I think with the inclusion of a few players this year Shane will be found out. Trade at the end of the year.
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You clearly have a low opinion of Edwards playing seniors for us and yet think him good enough to play at another club. Which one is it?
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You clearly have a low opinion of Edwards playing seniors for us and yet think him good enough to play at another club. Which one is it?
McGuane anyone???? No good at the RFC, although better than Edwards, someone will take him, I just hope we don't keep him the way he has gone about it for 7 stuffing years.
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We didn't trade McGuane - Brisbane weren't prepared to give anything up despite half their club walking out.
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We didn't trade McGuane - Brisbane weren't prepared to give anything up despite half their club walking out.
Yes I know that, I just think Shane has had enough chances, trade him or delist him.
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Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.
Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.
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Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.
Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.
Not aboriginal enough?
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Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
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Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
Don't think Shane has X-factor?
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Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
Don't think Shane has X-factor?
It's more of a Y? factor with Shank.
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Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.
Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.
What does he contribute enlighten us
Played 10 good games in 09 I think
Another 6 or 7 in 12
Rest have been average to say the least
Should have dumped his sorry Tambling weak arse a long time ago
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Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
Don't think Shane has X-factor?
Maybe we should ask Simon Cowell?
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Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
Don't think Shane has X-factor?
gotta agree. x factor would mean to me super skills and an ability to do the sublime at times. edwards has neither.
for me he had a really good period in 2012 for about 2/3 of a season. trouble is hes been unable to replicate the good form either side of that period. which suggeste to me after 7yrs it not the norm.
we have seen lots like him at richmond. we all know em well. the types who struggle for yrs then have a good yr or 18 months but cant sustain it and then slip back to normal which sees em become substandard again.
a simple assesment of actual strengths and weakness will give all and sundry a good guide of what players can sustain. unfortunately shane has never ticked a lot of the required boxes.
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
WAT has set such a high standard for Shane. Perhaps an unrealistic standard. Why can't people be content with the fact he may only be decent player in our best 22? Why does he need to be better than that? He had a good 2012 and I think posters such as WAT are expecting him to play to that level every game. I compare these posters to drug addicts. They reached such a good level of high once (Shane's 2012 form) and they want more. However, they rarely reach that high again despite using more and more of the drug. They begin to hate the drug and themselves but they just can't turn away from it. It's ruining their lives.
They need rehab.
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands. as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games. hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.
hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song . but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
WAT has set such a high standard for Shane. Perhaps an unrealistic standard. Why can't people be content with the fact he may only be decent player in our best 22? Why does he need to be better than that? He had a good 2012 and I think posters such as WAT are expecting him to play to that level every game. I compare these posters to drug addicts. They reached such a good level of high once (Shane's 2012 form) and they want more. However, they rarely reach that high again despite using more and more of the drug. They begin to hate the drug and themselves but they just can't turn away from it. It's ruining their lives.
They need rehab.
That's a classic Coach post, unlike Shed you can always count on Coach
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands. as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games. hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.
hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song . but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
you say it isnt hard to get better, yet he is constantly is in the top clearance winners for the club. So why are others not winning more clearances constantly?
as others have said, he aint no superstar, but to be constantly winning his fair share of clearances means he is earning his place, unless of course you think clearances are not important?
but then again, you seem to strive for a team of superstars.
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Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh
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Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh
Here here no one expects him to be a gun but to show 2 descent half seasons out of 7/8 is a rubbish return. He plays scared like Tambling
Al and his expert clearances statistic carries a lot of weight though
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plays scared?
spoken like a true keyboard warrior who probably never won a hard ball in their life.
and yeah, clearances are meaningless.
much better to let the opposition get the clearance so you can then get your tackle count up, hey?
next thing you two will band together and tell us that you need to look away when marking the ball?
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Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh
Here here no one expects him to be a gun but to show 2 descent half seasons out of 7/8 is a rubbish return. He plays scared like Tambling
Al and his expert clearances statistic carries a lot of weight though
:lol
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on that we agree, it is rather funny.
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Shank doesn't play scared, he just plays stupid. He wouldn't try to do things beyond his abilities so often if he was crapping himself.
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Never thought of him as scared. Just no consistency. Could be an A-grader one day, C-grader the next.
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He's a VFL-level player with a one or two AFL-level attributes. Still think he'd be the ideal sub to bring on fresh when the opposition is starting to tire.
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He's a VFL-level player with a one or two AFL-level attributes. Still think he'd be the ideal sub to bring on fresh when the opposition is starting to tire.
Agreed although those attributes are pretty good - even at AFL level.
Interesting thought on subbing into a game.
That might work.
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has his abilities & his capabilities all messed up. Off with his Head ;D
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He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward
As I pointed out at the end of last year, should play forward pocket!
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even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.
Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands. as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games. hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.
hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song . but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
you say it isnt hard to get better, yet he is constantly is in the top clearance winners for the club. So why are others not winning more clearances constantly?
as others have said, he aint no superstar, but to be constantly winning his fair share of clearances means he is earning his place, unless of course you think clearances are not important?
but then again, you seem to strive for a team of superstars.
lol at the man content with mediocrity. one decent attribute makes it all good never mind every other area of the game. ffs we are talking afl players. players of his type really do need to bring more to the table than winning a few clearances.
i could find you 10 players in state leagues who would be just as good as as edwards at clearances. they would also offer much more in other area.
ffs slow, cant find the ball often, with poor foot skills at 182 and barely 80kg small and undersized after 7 yrs.
geez hes a champion of the game who we just should not be looking to do better than. geez i love the head up their arses crowd. they sure love their own stink.
theres delusion and then theres well you. the epitomy of of it. yep lets only talk about the one thing a player does half well lets forget all else and put the rose coloureds on.
if i listen to the likes of you, i will get yep we need to improve to be a contender, but lets improve with the hacks we have who only have one redeeming attribute. we shouldnt be aiming for better players blokes like edwards just cant be replaced. stuff that is hilarious. when i say esily replaced bud im only taklking about a reasonably well rounded player.
we will turn over at least another 20 players before we make a gf and thats if we recruit well hmm i wonder if anyone can see a problem there.
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are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
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Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?
Crumbs beautiful and hands of Geez. bizarre to not play them forward
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Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?
Crumbs beautiful and hands of Geez. bizarre to not play them forward
I agree, even though he's one-sided, takes an enternity to balance to kick on his right foot and is built like Olive Oyl yet has a greater turning circle than Emile Heskey.
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has his abilities & his capabilities all messed up. Off with his Head ;D
haha succinct and pretty much sums it up
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Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?
Crumbs beautiful and hands of Geez. bizarre to not play them forward
agreed but ya can't handball a goal.... :whistle
Edited to correct quote
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Looks set for a good year again.
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Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?
Crumbs beautiful and hands of Geez. bizarre to not play them forward
Agree...HFF with small stints in the middle is his go I believe. Yes, we all realise his kicking is so so at times (see Cotchin) but he brings a lot to the team like his running ability, his work in close with his vision and hands are exceptional, he can take a nice mark, he is durable and he crumbing is first class. He is not a champion but he is a good AFL player. That's my take on Edwards anyway, regular starter.
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Thought he was one of our best early. Some of his work around the clearances was exceptional.
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are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
lol mr disingenuous complaining about comprehension. whos making poo up. if the shoe fits wear it bud.
so enlighten us all what other attributes outside of having good hands thus winning his share of clearances does he consistently bring to the table.
by the way a bloke like lonergan would have a better average with clearances yet we cut him because he just didnt tick enough other boxes. edwards is just as deficient as lonergan in many areas. we really have to be aiming for better more well rounded players than edwards. in the mean time until we do find those players we are stuck with the likes of shane unfortunately.
thats not to say we should not be aiming for better.
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Can't kick. That's the problemo.
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are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
lol mr disingenuous complaining about comprehension. whos making poo up. if the shoe fits wear it bud.
perhaps you could enlighten us on how this
as others have said, he aint no superstar,
begets this sarcastic crap
geez hes a champion of the game who we just should not be looking to do better than. geez i love the head up their arses crowd. they sure love their own stink.
that my narcissistic friend, is either the comprehension of an inbred hillbilly whom has hardly ever seen a book, or a deliberate misrepresentation for the sake of arguing.
Which is it?
what were you saying about if the shoe fits?
the crazy part, i mean the real crazy part, is that no where have i said any difference to this
in the mean time until we do find those players we are stuck with the likes of shane unfortunately.
thats not to say we should not be aiming for better.
but as long as you resort to the illogical contardictory type comments i highlight at the start of this post, every time someone posts a different opinion to yours, no rational conversation will ever be possible.
Just because you see everyone as either a dud or a champ, that doesn't mean it is so. There are those, lots in fact, that fall somewhere in between.
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*illiterate response that doesn't even address the post*
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Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...
Thoughts??
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Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...
Thoughts??
Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good
Vast improvement on last week's effort
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Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...
Thoughts??
Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good
Vast improvement on last week's effort
Thanks WP, that's good to hear then.
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Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...
Thoughts??
Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good
Vast improvement on last week's effort
Thought Shane was good last week. He was about the only bloke who had a crack last week and got taken off for trying too hard. :shh
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Awww geee stuff me we are getting our knives reading aren't we fellas? Actually we aren't even using knives anymore, we'll be handing out machetes to do the stabbing. Watch your back boys because the knives are out and well and truly being sharpened!! :police:
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I was thnking of a broadsword truth to tell
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Dead set champ this bloke... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::) ::) ::)
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This guy just cant keep getting games like he does...I just don't get it... :banghead
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Shocking today and deserves to be dropped. Infact send him back to South Australia for a can of coke and a packet of twisties.
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Only people with half a brain can see this bloke is a complete spud. Always has been always will be.
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He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.
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Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender
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Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender
Burn the clubhouse down if that happens!!
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Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender
that would be a disgraceful decision IMHO
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Gets a game next week as he is due to wash Dimmas car and put the bins out next week
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Commissioner in - Titch out
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Gets a game next week as he is due to wash Dimmas car and put the bins out next week
Also, still has that photo of Dimma with the goat.
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this blokes gotta have photos on someone or something.
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He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.
mate he is an arse holes footballer.
Honestly think about his performance since he was drafted.
2 descent half years out of 8. Thats it.
he gets a game because he probably fondles dimmas date during the week. plays like some of the blokes on commercial road i see on the way to work monday morning
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He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.
mate he is an arse holes footballer.
Honestly think about his performance since he was drafted.
2 descent half years out of 8. Thats it.
he gets a game because he probably fondles dimmas date during the week. plays like some of the blokes on commercial road i see on the way to work monday morning
Agree and I have been saying it for 6 of those 8 long, very stuffing long years.... :banghead :banghead
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A headless chicken who costs us goals at both ends.
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Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...
Thoughts??
Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good
Vast improvement on last week's effort
so what is kingys role. :o do we need two defensive sml forwards who dont do much.
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In answer to your queston claw would rather have Kingy than Titch. Kingy at least has prescence.
Titch's presence is detrimental both fwd and back.
Enough is enough with this spud. Titch is a below average footballer who has lasted 8 seasons at the only footy club in the AFL willing to have him. That GC17, GWS trade scenario has sailed now.
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The problem is that rather than send a message to him by dropping him Hardwick continues to play this spud so he starts to think he has a walk up start every week and untouchable. Drop him and see if he responds how any talented footballer would or simply languishes in the VFL confirming that he is simply not up to it.
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very poor game I thought by titch/Must be getting close to spending time in the 2s
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After watching the replay for the 2nd time grrrrr
His handball which caused the turnover which caused the winning goal is enough
If he gets a game next week surely proves he is washing no only Dimmas car but Peggy..Brendan's .and Chocos cars
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what about not 1 not 2 but 3 easy goals cotchin missed
if he just kicked one more we would have won,,, he missed all 3 . NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A SO CALLED GUN
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King will go before Edwards but Shane is on notice.
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
The neighbours thought a murder had been committed when I reacted a tad loudly at that. I just couldn't believe what he had done and thought it showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability. The whole team just seems to be playing like it has no faith in itself any more; the refusal to take risk, the refusal to run forward, the refusal to take ownership of a play, and Cotchin seems to be as affected as anyone.
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trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
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trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
Adelaide will have him. Get a Tambling deal done Richmond!
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trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
Free agent!
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He is no ablett
But is he the first to go?
Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc
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He is no ablett
But is he the first to go?
Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc
He has bee at the club for 8 years and nothings changed, Houli and Grigg just need a kick in the arse.
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trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
Free agent!
then he can pee off ... he's not doing anything for us anyway
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He's not older than the Melbourne Carlton Essendon rejects
Same age group
Houli petard Grigg have also been in the system around a decade
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
The neighbours thought a murder had been committed when I reacted a tad loudly at that. I just couldn't believe what he had done and thought it showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability. The whole team just seems to be playing like it has no faith in itself any more; the refusal to take risk, the refusal to run forward, the refusal to take ownership of a play, and Cotchin seems to be as affected as anyone.
Agree and this was massively exposed in the elim final last year. People went on and on about Houli's decision to pass from 60 instead of run a bit further and take a shot, but there were actually about another 5-6 other glaring incidents where players passed it off rather than have a ping from 50 including martin a couple of times and theres no one Id rather than him having a shot from there. Think the mindset of the whole team is and has been slightly wrong for a while, there is no killer instinct. We need to be more ruthless and whilst its great they want to bring each other into the game, sometimes it takes more courage for players to put their hand up to take on the responsibility (for better or worse).
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Correct
Jake King did from outside 50 in the 3rd quarter
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Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.
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Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.
True but is should never been passed to him by Dusty. Dusty should have taken the shot or at least kicked to the goal square
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Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.
That's what White used to do all the time - we all remember those spectacular looking running goals he kicked from near the boundary, but fact is he missed more often than not and most of the time he should've just squared it up. I'd prefer Gordon not continue that theme.
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Played his best football 2 seasons ago in that crumbling forward role and I thought that's his home now some reason moved again and has gone backwards.
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Should be a sub before he's sacked.
Could work
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Should be a sub before he's sacked.
Could work
Been saying that since they brought the rule in. Made for him. Though after his efforts in these first three games I'd like to see him in the VFL first.
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He is no ablett
But is he the first to go?
Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc
8 years of utter tripe judge and yes he should be one of the first to go, nudged out slightly by Newman with grigg third
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Played his best football 2 seasons ago in that crumbling forward role and I thought that's his home now some reason moved again and has gone backwards.
look at his career and instead of going backwards he has just reverted back to what is normal for him.. have often said when hes at his verybest which isnt often and cant be sustained hes a passable player, as soon as there is any sort of drop away from his best he becomes very ordinary indeed.
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
i thought he was close to best on ground.
if there is a knock on cotchins game it has always been kicking and goal kicking in particular. perhaps cotchin was trying to play within his limitations and do the right thing.
cotchin will always make mistakes when kicking but i for one think he more than makes up for this weakness in every single other aspect of the game.
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
There is something seriously wrong with you
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Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
i thought he was close to best on ground.
if there is a knock on cotchins game it has always been kicking and goal kicking in particular. perhaps cotchin was trying to play within his limitations and do the right thing.
cotchin will always make mistakes when kicking but i for one think he more than makes up for this weakness in every single other aspect of the game.
Yep. People forget how bad Watson was.
I have issues with every other senior player out there, except Cotchin.
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Would drop king before Shane
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Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.
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Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
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Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
Now he can go and join comancheros good riddance
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Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
Now he can go and join comancheros good riddance
:o :o :o
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Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.
King was far from our worst on Saturday....Shank on the other hand was right down there....
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Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.
King was far from our worst on Saturday....Shank on the other hand was right down there....
Disagree with that. King was close to if not our worst.
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kingy also had the doggies number 1 stopper on him, and copped a heavy knock early, something everyone continues to ignore
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Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
Agree.
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SPUD EDWARDS cost us the game
DROP HIM ;D :banghead
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Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
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It's that goal that will keep him in the side for another 6 weeks.
Got to have a token indigenous bloke fit and farting for Dreamtime unlike Essendon. :help
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Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy
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Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy
Chuck stop bombing the forum with crap.
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Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy
Chuck stop bombing the forum with crap.
Unfortunately there is definitely no excuse for me
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Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
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Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
VFL Time
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Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year
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for a tricky small fwd he is absolute poo in greasy conditions
actgually hes poo in any conditions
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Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year
I was keeping my word last year, I said I would support him and not bag him, which I did. stuff him now he is and always has been a pathetic excuse for an AFL player. :wallywink
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The bloke's just utterly useless. His "quick hands" just sell us into trouble quicker. Like he plays in another dimension....you'd be a good chance to win a spot the ball comp. with him in the frame if you just put the cross anywhere in the general area behind him. A hack with a highlight reel.
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for a tricky small fwd he is absolute poo in greasy conditions
actgually hes poo in any conditions
:lol :clapping
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Enuff is enough
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Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year
I was keeping my word last year, I said I would support him and not bag him, which I did. stuff him now he is and always has been a pathetic excuse for an AFL player. :wallywink
You blew wind up his ass all last year and now your sucking it back in this year
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Free agent this year. We'll get zero compensation based on his year so far. He might as well be sitting in the grandstand as he's only spectating on the field.
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This guy is a shrug off who doesnt use his speed
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Edwards is a fwd pocket. FFS Dimma leave him up there.
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2 goals to Shed WAT will be back and blowing again
Actually chuck, he makes people like you and himself look stuffing stupid, not much point trying to turn it on now, likewise his supporters, just blew back at you. 2 goals is hardly anything to crow about in the context of this poo game.
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How many has Gordon kicked in 3 qtrs less than your mate??
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How many has Gordon kicked in 3 qtrs less than your mate??
My opinion of Shed hasn't changed unlike yours, who can't mAke up their mind
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3 to Gordon chuckhead.
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I hate this guy.
Plays like a hack all night. Then teases you with one quarter of football that just shouldn't be possible for a player of his standard like that goal from the pocket.
Sigh.
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I hate this guy.
Plays like a hack all night. Then teases you with one quarter of football that just shouldn't be possible for a player of his standard like that goal from the pocket.
Sigh.
Should be the sub.....
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Sadly and i have mentioned this before he is the closest we have to an x-factor player, doesnt do anything special consistently but is capable occasionally hence why he is one of the coach's favourites.
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Needs to be an opportunist small forward. Why do we need everyone to rotate through midfield..
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Love his abilty to spill the ball for no apparent reason.
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His last quarter will see him get a 5 year deal
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His last quarter will see him get a 5 year deal
Oh look we've always known what Shane is capable of.....when he starts to put together 4 quarters ...watch out....yeah...an important player for the club going forward......
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dud delist asap.
why do we persevere with so many plyers who are passengers for huge chunks of most games. you betcha bottom dollar 2 last quarter goals will save him and the usual problems will go unheeded.
its probably too late for it but he needs to spend 6 to 10 weeks in the magoos and they need to demand CONSISTENCY AT A HIGH LEVEL for that period before bringing him back.
personally id just put him on the scrap heap and get games into a youngster. enough of this crap.
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I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
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I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
dark out look. nope just honest and realistic imo.
what concerns me most atm is all the hardwork and strides forward we have made as a club can count for nought if we dont make the right calls on these consistently mediocre underperforming players. these blokes dont change they were the same at the start of yr as they are now. they were the same 4 yrs ago as they are now.
how do you put it i suppose like this.
lets say im good enough to get on a list im a mediocre player though
. if i get 10 games its likely one of them will be a good one but im mediocre and im going to revert back to what im consistently capable of and thats mediocrity. our trouble it seems with supporters and the club that one good game is enough for the club to keep me and give me more games. then repeat the exercise.
shane edwards has played some good footy but hes never ever produced consistently good for over a decent period of time. imo the weaknesses or deficiencies in his game causes this. he will always revert to mediocrity.
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I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
:lol
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dud delist asap.
why do we persevere with so many plyers who are passengers for huge chunks of most games. you betcha bottom dollar 2 last quarter goals will save him and the usual problems will go unheeded.
its probably too late for it but he needs to spend 6 to 10 weeks in the magoos and they need to demand CONSISTENCY AT A HIGH LEVEL for that period before bringing him back.
personally id just put him on the scrap heap and get games into a youngster. enough of this crap.
:clapping
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This guy has to go, watch him in the last quarter when the gem is shot, he will kick two more and get a go next week too.. :whistle
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Not the worse player
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Not the worse player
Until we get rid of players like this we will never go forward, he's a fumbling fool and a rag doll out there. He looks like a boy amongst men.
It's ok, watch him kick a couple in the last 10 minutes and think he's great.
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Rank the players - tell me who are the worst ten
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Rank the players - tell me who are the worst ten
THE RFC.
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give it up JR, he's a hack
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Who's the worst
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Who stuffing cares their all poo.
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should be playing games at Punt Rd Oval not the MCG
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The cycle of Skata. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.
B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!
We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.
This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.
FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
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Shane Edwards squibbed :rollin
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stuff the dirty idiot
Wish he would just stuff off
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I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.
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Totally useless
Would get blown away on a Windy Day
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Totally useless
Would get blown away on a Windy Day
l have never seen another footballer like him. he squibbs every game this year. His family must be multi-millionaires cause l don't even rate him as a footballer
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FFs 30 years of crap players
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Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - please start the trade negotiations now RFC.....
....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
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Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....
....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
What success of White?
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I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.
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Where's Judge??
Please tell me again why you love this bloke
stuff honestly I can't see how anyone in the country would rate this bloke
I notice In the lids Newman doco on clubs website, your favourite hack was lids handyman cleaning doing odd jobs at his house. Just so fitting really the role suits such a Squibb
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Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....
....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
What success of White?
Getting a start in the side that's currently topping the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it?
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Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....
....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
What success of White?
Getting a start in the side that's currently leading the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it ?
Ok then yeah he is smashing it what a superstar
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I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.
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I know that feeling, I jumped off a couple of years back 2011 I think it was against the pies a night game. 3rd qtr Lids went nuts and we got a run on and closed the gap from 10 goals to about 4( lol) we were all over them and shed ran into an open goal 3 times in 10 mins for a total combined return of 1 behind and 2 OOTF. Lost me that night and have never looked back. Just not good enough - The end
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Do we need an indigenous player on the list to keep Dreamtime?
As far as I can see that may be the only reason he gets a game…..
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Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....
....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
What success of White?
Getting a start in the side that's currently leading the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it ?
Ok then yeah he is smashing it what a superstar
So it's only "success" if he's BOG every week eh Chuck-a-wobbly? Careful - you almost sound like a darksider there.
If we could keep lids, Cotch, Dusty and Jack and have 18 Matty whites we would be set
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I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.
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I know that feeling, I jumped off a couple of years back 2011 I think it was against the pies a night game. 3rd qtr Lids went nuts and we got a run on and closed the gap from 10 goals to about 4( lol) we were all over them and shed ran into an open goal 3 times in 10 mins for a total combined return of 1 behind and 2 OOTF. Lost me that night and have never looked back. Just not good enough - The end
TM remember that game well. The phrase was coined on here by someone about him momentum killer. Was that game and I had lost him much earlier. Was almost cajoled in 2012 but remained firm. Critical misses against Nth in the last quarter and turnovers earlier that year in close games sealed the deal fully.
Will never be a player other than a less than ordinary one. Plain and simple.
Even at Geelong, Christensen, Motlop and Stokes all on one leg would get selection before the less than ordinary Titch.
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Will he get dropped, we all know the answer, Hardwick's credibility is decreasing by the day and if he doesn't make a statement at the selection table this week then I think he may as well resign as coach. I think his problem is he is a great bloke but like a teacher who let's you talk in class and doesn't give homework eventually the kids take advantage. In this case its the Griggs, Edwards, Newman's, Houlis who just expect and get provided with a walk up start every week regardless of form. A message needs to be sent to them very quickly and if Hardwick isn't prepared to do it then find someone who is for while these pretenders are in the team we are going nowhere fast.
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Well what do ya know - played well as a sub....rule is made for him.... been wanting this since they brought it in - still had to have his little brain explosion with the playing on in the square but luckliy got a second chance second later and made amends. Could this finally see him become the impact player he's been threatening to be but never delivered upon his entire career ...or could it be a sign he's finally on the way out? Either way would suit me just fine but unfortunately I feel there's little doubt Hardwick will see today's effort as a reason to start him again and all will be undone.
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Better than grigg newman
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Better than grigg newman
Edwards is rubbish mate
my left testicle is better than those 2.
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Had a big impact when he came on.
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Not disputing that thought he was influential with his tackling and goals in that quarter.
Another above average game adding to his tally of 25 out of 135 odd games.
Get rid of him.
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Well what do ya know - played well as a sub....rule is made for him.... been wanting this since they brought it in - still had to have his little brain explosion with the playing on in the square but luckliy got a second chance second later and made amends. Could this finally see him become the impact player he's been threatening to be but never delivered upon his entire career ...or could it be a sign he's finally on the way out? Either way would suit me just fine but unfortunately I feel there's little doubt Hardwick will see today's effort as a reason to start him again and all will be undone.
Yep leave him as sub, did have an immediate impact
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Matt White was an ordinary footballer before we made him a sub. Amazing what confidence does to a players output
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White was below ordinary for a long time
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
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Don't think him playing on was a mistake. He looked through and then stopped. :lol
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anyone could give 1 quarter football. if you weren't roaring to go after coming off the pine when everyone else is blowing then there is a problem. So in 8 years his given 9 quarters of football :clapping well effing done. Hell l could even give 1 quarter at 50 ;D
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White was below ordinary for a long time
white is only now playing at what id call an acceptable level. give it time judge give it time and the real matt white will shows its ugly head.
so hes not our worst but the fact remains edwards is still a huge problem
of all the regulars of similar type and role im struggling to find anyone who has been worse including the departed matt white. how about you tell us who you think is worse than edwards either as a mid or as a sml fwd or a combination of both.
without a doubt we are better off drafting a quick skilled sml mid/fwd who has smarts than persevering with edwards. its actually about aiming to do better and not stagnate and actually doing something about it.
me im hoping we turn over at a minimum 8 players come seasons end id prefer 10. id like us to target 6 maybe 7 juniors and 3 possibly 4 mature players. we do this in all areas of recruiting nd, psd, rookie draft, and f/a.
the 8 i would not hesitate to delist retire or trade are.
banfield delist. recruit a mid/fwd.
batchelor delist/trade. recruit a kpd
darrou delist. recruit a kpd
a edwards retire. recruit a tal fwd think jack gunstan for type.
s edwards delist/trade. recruit a sml fwd. sheesh theres always someone at other clubs who think they can turn players like edwards around we may get a 3rd rounder if we are lucky.
s grigg delist. recruit a skillful quick outside mid.
helbig delist cant wait forever. recruit a big bodied mid. if he can get a game and show a bit keep.
king retire. recruit a quick skillful mid.
newman retire. recruit a specialist med defender. have a go at someone like hibberd from ess.
petterd delist. recruit a kpf
stephenson delist recruit a crash bash ruckman. would also like to take another ruckman somewhere probably rookie.
trade vickery try and get back into the first round with this trade may need to add to this to get a first rounder.
sheesh i could do another 5 if i had to.
where does edwards sit among these well id him in the first 5 gone.
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White was below ordinary for a long time
white is only now playing at what id call an acceptable level. give it time judge give it time and the real matt white will shows its ugly head.
What do you mean give it time? It reared its head when they played Norf. Just had to get the ball moving forward on the rebound and shanked it off the side of the boot and the ball went sideways. Meanwhile his man slaughtered him the other way. :lol
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Top Post :thumbsup White is better off away from Richmond. They were keeping him down. As you said our chip game don't suit fast players. l hope he makes something of his football career at Port. Its strange that everyone knows playing football is to go long, direct & fast. He goes long & direct but also follows it up & then kicks a ripper goal often. Watching the Port game's, He was at the feet of the Port forwards ready to pounce. Sadly l don't see that in the Richmond games as most of the time our smalls ain't there or simply cant keep up with the game & often if you follow Edwards his opponant pushes him off balance just enough to keep him out of the play he is so easy to push off his feet. Edwards needs to get some mongrel into him to be able to play finals footy this year or he may find himself out in the cold like Foley as our youngsters will quickly take their places.
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
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If a player who has been at the top level for 8 years is not strong on his feet & still plays like a rookie. OFF WITH HIS HEAD ;D
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
So he should, He was chewing the pine for 2 quarters & has 8 years experience. l would expect nothing less. He needs to be put on there again l think he overdosed on the Gatorade ;D
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.
He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.
He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.
if we made up a highlights package for him it would look like the Benny Hill show ;D
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Just cut him loose, list clogging now, cameo's for the rest of the year shouldn't save him.
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trade for a slower, more inconsistent player.
wait, what?
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People just expect to replace our players from thin air ::)
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trade for a slower, more inconsistent player.
wait, what?
Maybe we could trade him for Andy Collins
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
I doubt that very much ;D
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Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.
He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.
He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.
did we play the better football with or without him against geelong?
as for what did he change? really? yeah we still lost, but perhaps if the blokes on the field hadnt gone gone a quarter and half without kicking a goal his influence may very well have been the difference between winning and losong rather the the difference between a big loss and a small loss.
How in gods name could you lay that at his feet when he wasnt even on the ground????????
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
I doubt that very much ;D
Why?
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
I doubt that very much ;D
Why?
why would he be happy with letting go a guy who was the fastest in our club but allowing other spuds to list clog.
Nothing to be proud of there watching the slowest RFC team in years.
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Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
I doubt that very much ;D
Why?
Matt's departure wasn't all smiles and handshakes. Dan would not be pleased at his current form. Whitey is shoving it right up his arse and good on him
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You think Dan is that small minded?
Interesting.
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what I want to know is what ekto thinks about all of this
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Clubs weren't exactly queuing to contract a 105gamer over 8 years to a 1mn 3 year deal ...RFC did what most clubs would do, PA have been damned lucky. Players under these circumstances never generally turn out for the best, read Chris knights , justin blumfield , mark Williams, Clinton young, Quentin lynch, Wayne Carey , lions have had a few lately
He d also torn a hammy every year for last few years....good luck to whitey, right place right time
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You think Dan is that small minded?
Interesting.
I think Dan made a horrible choice by treating Matt like a piece of garbage. Can't see how he'd now be on his side.
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Agree with bojan. If White was so valuable he'd have done a lot more at Richmond over the umpteen years he was there.
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Clubs weren't exactly queuing to contract a 105gamer over 8 years to a 1mn 3 year deal ...RFC did what most clubs would do, PA have been damned lucky. Players under these circumstances never generally turn out for the best, read Chris knights , justin blumfield , mark Williams, Clinton young, Quentin lynch, Wayne Carey , lions have had a few lately
He d also torn a hammy every year for last few years....good luck to whitey, right place right time
That's your mail is it? that PA was the only club interested?
To borrow a phrase from someone else: Give me a spell
I think Dan made a horrible choice by treating Matt like a piece of garbage. Can't see how he'd now be on his side.
Don't forget Blair, part of his job is "value" those on our list and make recommendations regarding contracts & re-signings. Looking at the RFC web-site the other day it seems Blair has been promoted :o He is now "General Manager of Player Personnel & List Management" ::)
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I hope you don't mind me saying this WP...Blair is terrific, just terrific.
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I hope you don't mind me saying this WP...Blair is terrific, just terrific.
Nah, Terrific, just terrific Tm, you've mentioned it :thumbsup
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.
And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.
And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas. He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft. So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.
And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.
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Whatever you think of him, Grigg was a brilliant trade considering it cost us superstar Andy Collins. :P
Most of the recycled fringe players have been at very low cost. The most expensive being Maric and Hampson.
Many of them have served a purpose but I expect us to put the broom through them this year with an uncompromised draft in play for the first time in several years.
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.
And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas. He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft. So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.
No actually they looked at trading for Thomas back in 2012 (zit here was multi page thread on here about it). BH was very keen back then, he makes these recommendations
It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.
Never wanted Grigg, never been a fan. What people are complaining about this year are the exact same things I've been raising for over 3 years now. Houli I didn't have a problem with because he filled a clear void.
I blame Blair for recommending which players to target from other clubs. Yep I can understand why we did it when we did but and it's a big but... He is the one who has recommended targeting established players rather going for kids. He is the one who in his role "values" other clubs players and then says giving up 2nd round pick for Hampson is a value trade.
I just believe BH has too much say in too many things and he has escaped scrutiny for our trading, FA targets and drafting mature age players rather than drafting kids when has clearly had a major role as the list analyst.
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Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.
And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas. He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft. So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.
No actually they looked at trading for Thomas back in 2012 (zit here was multi page thread on here about it). BH was very keen back then, he makes these recommendations
It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.
Never wanted Grigg, never been a fan. What people are complaining about this year are the exact same things I've been raising for over 3 years now. Houli I didn't have a problem with because he filled a clear void.
I blame Blair for recommending which players to target from other clubs. Yep I can understand why we did it when we did but and it's a big but... He is the one who has recommended targeting established players rather going for kids. He is the one who in his role "values" other clubs players and then says giving up 2nd round pick for Hampson is a value trade.
I just believe BH has too much say in too many things and he has escaped scrutiny for our trading, FA targets and drafting mature age players rather than drafting kids when has clearly had a major role as the list analyst.
Firstly I don't rate Grigg really either but the facts are we paid 'not much' for him and he is better than we had at the time. Pretty simple. As I said, if Dimma wants to keep playing him then that's on Dimma. It pretty clear both you and I wouldn't now.
Secondly, isn't BH's roll to find players that could potentially be an upgrade on some of our guys. If he was saying we should just draft kids then he would be out of a job. We employed him to do just what he has been doing.
And until this year, most of us would agree the players he bought into the club have helped when drafts were compromised. Nowhere did BH say these guys were here forever.
And lastly as drafting players is a risk so is trading for them. Some will work and some will not.
FJ is the one we need to upgrade on- I wish BH could do that.
Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.
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McMahon > Grigg
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McMahon > Grigg
Hahahaha exactly
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Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.
Again with respect big tone, all clubs have a person in the same role (List Analyst & Opposition List Analyst) as Blair Hartley. RFC were one of the last clubs to have someone in that role.
FJ's job is recruiting. His recruiting is based on what he is told the club wants to target, the type of player they want (yes he's made some blues not disputing that). BH has input into that seeing he chairs the List Management committee. Blair will tell you that himself.
I just believe that Blair has far too much say in areas that he shouldn't. That's all
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Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.
Again with respect big tone, all clubs have a person in the same role (List Analyst & Opposition List Analyst) as Blair Hartley. RFC were one of the last clubs to have someone in that role.
FJ's job is recruiting. His recruiting is based on what he is told the club wants to target, the type of player they want (yes he's made some blues not disputing that). BH has input into that seeing he chairs the List Management committee. Blair will tell you that himself.
I just believe that Blair has far too much say in areas that he shouldn't. That's all
FJ identifies young talent first and foremost!!! After that the club may say what type of player they might need. But if FJ thought kid A would be better than kid B that they might need, and FJ didn't put his foot down on player A, then he shouldn't be in his roll.
I cannot believe he still has a job with all his misses.
Not sure what your problem is with BH but his record stands up against FJ.
And no offense to you WP but you are only an outsider looking in, but in reality you have no idea what goes on behind the doors of the RFC. None of us do.
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Blair has done ok for someone who was editing videos 12 years ago
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
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funny that someone that failed in the industry would bring what someone else was doing 12 years ago.
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Not sure what your problem is with BH but his record stands up against FJ.
Outside of the fact he appears to escape any form of scrutiny regarding his role in the state of our list....
You are correct I do have a problem with him not afraid to admit it. But I'll leave it at that.
And no offense to you WP but you are only an outsider looking in, but in reality you have no idea what goes on behind the doors of the RFC. None of us do.
None taken and I'll leave it there ;) :thumbsup
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funny that someone that failed in the industry would bring what someone else was doing 12 years ago.
Good point Al
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
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Out: Hartley
In: the claw :bow :bow
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
reckon your pretty well aware i was very critical of the list last yr despite winning 15 games.
let me rephrase it for you. grigg was a good get in the sense he cost nothing and he was an upgrade on players we had. he is not a long term keeper or should not be. in that sense he was not a good get. a short term fix if you like. mate you or i could target decent short term upgrades it really isnt a hard thing to do.
grigg and houli were both good gets at the time because they were actually improvements on players we had. my argument has always been we at some point would need to upgrade the upgrades because of the obvious defociencies in their game. blair keeps on taking players who clearly are not long term keepers and have glaring weaknesses .imo both can be replaced fairly easily if your half decent at your job and should have been by now.
maric quite simply put is irreplaceable and apert from carrying injury has given very good service. hes given heaps more than any ruckman on our list even when injured and is always competetive. .morris performs his primary role very well and will be kept as he should be. in taking him we filled a huge hole he stops players well enough that he wont be replaced.
i did a list of mature picks taken in hartleys time late last yr, and the list is large yet the quality and long term success rate is deplorable. the only thing defenders of him wanted to debate was how long hes been at the club and blame jackson for the failures. its always someone elses fault with our supporters.
if we cant do better than what has been recruited you can look forward to many more yrs in the wilderness, we simply have to do better. and that is the bottom line and is all im saying.
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
reckon your pretty well aware i was very critical of the list last yr despite winning 15 games.
let me rephrase it for you. grigg was a good get in the sense he cost nothing and he was an upgrade on players we had. he is not a long term keeper or should not be. in that sense he was not a good get. a short term fix if you like. mate you or i could target decent short term upgrades it really isnt a hard thing to do.
grigg and houli were both good gets at the time because they were actually improvements on players we had. my argument has always been we at some point would need to upgrade the upgrades because of the obvious defociencies in their game. blair keeps on taking players who clearly are not long term keepers and have glaring weaknesses .imo both can be replaced fairly easily if your half decent at your job and should have been by now.
maric quite simply put is irreplaceable and apert from carrying injury has given very good service. hes given heaps more than any ruckman on our list even when injured and is always competetive. .morris performs his primary role very well and will be kept as he should be. in taking him we filled a huge hole he stops players well enough that he wont be replaced.
i did a list of mature picks taken in hartleys time late last yr, and the list is large yet the quality and long term success rate is deplorable. the only thing defenders of him wanted to debate was how long hes been at the club and blame jackson for the failures. its always someone elses fault with our supporters.
if we cant do better than what has been recruited you can look forward to many more yrs in the wilderness, we simply have to do better. and that is the bottom line and is all im saying.
IMO there is only one reason we have had to take experienced players from other clubs over the last 4 years and that because our recruiting has been SH/7 house for so long and our list had suffered. Maybe not all FJ fault but a recruiting issue all the same.
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Everyone starts at the bottom.
I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley. we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise that this is the case. we take an ordinary or average player and improve an area and that seems to be good enough when the need is there to upograde that player.
sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.
imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
reckon your pretty well aware i was very critical of the list last yr despite winning 15 games.
let me rephrase it for you. grigg was a good get in the sense he cost nothing and he was an upgrade on players we had. he is not a long term keeper or should not be. in that sense he was not a good get. a short term fix if you like. mate you or i could target decent short term upgrades it really isnt a hard thing to do.
grigg and houli were both good gets at the time because they were actually improvements on players we had. my argument has always been we at some point would need to upgrade the upgrades because of the obvious defociencies in their game. blair keeps on taking players who clearly are not long term keepers and have glaring weaknesses .imo both can be replaced fairly easily if your half decent at your job and should have been by now.
maric quite simply put is irreplaceable and apert from carrying injury has given very good service. hes given heaps more than any ruckman on our list even when injured and is always competetive. .morris performs his primary role very well and will be kept as he should be. in taking him we filled a huge hole he stops players well enough that he wont be replaced.
i did a list of mature picks taken in hartleys time late last yr, and the list is large yet the quality and long term success rate is deplorable. the only thing defenders of him wanted to debate was how long hes been at the club and blame jackson for the failures. its always someone elses fault with our supporters.
if we cant do better than what has been recruited you can look forward to many more yrs in the wilderness, we simply have to do better. and that is the bottom line and is all im saying.
IMO there is only one reason we have had to take experienced players from other clubs over the last 4 years and that because our recruiting has been SH/7 house for so long and our list had suffered. Maybe not all FJ fault but a recruiting issue all the same.
mate i agree wholeheartedly. the thing is its not just one thing its a combination of things. we have failed with so many draft picks under jackson even a lot of the first rounders are questionable.
i did a post recently stating we had 26 nd picks in the second and third rounds from 05 to last yr and only one shane freakin edwards can be considered a success seeing as hes played over 100 games. even with him i think it a failed pick as i thought he should have been delisted at the end of 2010.
i firmly advocated we take mature players even just to value add because 4 yrs ago we had a dearth of experienced and mature players. that situation is no longer, and for me the process had to change at the end of 2012.
it really is not hard to fathom, as posters like yourself and a few others here grasp very quickly the fact that as the list changes the priorities do as well.
yeah im critical because i know we should have done much better than what we have done. recruiting is ordinary right across the board and list management remains imo a basket case.
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Get rid of him, list clogger, a hang over from our poor recruitment days.
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2006 draft
riewoldt
shane edwards
collins
king
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^ Pretty good draft.
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^ two time Coleman medallist (even if they don't really count)
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^ Pretty good draft.
hilarious.
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Have a look at it. Not much talent there. We did ok considering what was available.
Try not to cherry pick with hindsight..
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
Ok. Tell us who we should rookie this year since you know better.
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Have a look at it. Not much talent there. We did ok considering what was available.
Try not to cherry pick with hindsight..
i dont do hindsight bud. the only decent pick in 06 was riewoldt.06 is a great example of why we have been so mediocre over the yrs.finding 1 player per draft will mean failure no matter how poor the draft or who the team is.while all you rose sniffers were applauding the club for taking edwards i was lambasting them and argued as i usually do, that eric mckenzie was not only a better pick but met a far greater need. for the last 13 14 yrs i have lambasted them before during and straight after each nd for the picks they have taken and failing to address list needs.
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Have a look at it. Not much talent there. We did ok considering what was available.
Try not to cherry pick with hindsight..
for the last 13 14 yrs i have lambasted them before during and straight after each nd for the picks they have taken and failing to address list needs.
Maybe time for a rest?
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Have a look at it. Not much talent there. We did ok considering what was available.
Try not to cherry pick with hindsight..
for the last 13 14 yrs i have lambasted them before during and straight after each nd for the picks they have taken and failing to address list needs.
Maybe time for a rest?
the flower sniffers would like that.
when they can get these things right maybe then i will give it a rest.
yep 06 was a great trade/nd collins, connors, kingsley,peterson,polak, and edwards and riewoldt. 1 out of 7 aint bad eh. ffs.
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
Ok. Tell us who we should rookie this year since you know better.
Was just pointing out it was a fair rookie draft that year not wasn't implying I knew better at the time ....besides, how the stuff would I know who'll even be available in this year's rookie draft before we've even had the National Draft or PSD yet? twit.
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
Ok. Tell us who we should rookie this year since you know better.
Was just pointing out it was a fair rookie draft that year not wasn't implying I knew better at the time ....besides, how the stuff would I know who'll even be available in this year's rookie draft before we've even had the National Draft or PSD yet? twit.
Just pointing out that it's easy to take pot shots at recruiting after the fact. twit.
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"twit" and "Knob Jockey" you two should hook up
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
Ok. Tell us who we should rookie this year since you know better.
Was just pointing out it was a fair rookie draft that year not wasn't implying I knew better at the time ....besides, how the stuff would I know who'll even be available in this year's rookie draft before we've even had the National Draft or PSD yet? twit.
Also, have you considered that we may have recruited well but or player development has meant that all but the very best can ever progress? So it may have nothing to do with player choice. Probably has been that way at Richmond for many years.
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Fair rookie draft that year.....any two of Wellingham, Harbrow, Suckling or Macaffer ahead of Tasman Clingan & Jake King would've been handy.
Ok. Tell us who we should rookie this year since you know better.
Was just pointing out it was a fair rookie draft that year not wasn't implying I knew better at the time ....besides, how the stuff would I know who'll even be available in this year's rookie draft before we've even had the National Draft or PSD yet? twit.
Also, have you considered that we may have recruited well but or player development has meant that all but the very best can ever progress? So it may have nothing to do with player choice. Probably has been that way at Richmond for many years.
It's clearly been a combination of poor recruiting and poor development over the years....they exacerbate each other.
The two picks from 2006 rookie draft are not really an example of this though....Clingan was just poor recuiting alone and I doubt he would've made it at any club. Many junior watchers & experts at the time were astonished he made it onto an AFL list, even as a rookie.
You could make several arguments for & against King - doubt any other club could've got much more out of him than we have - but it's probably down to his own desire & work ethic more than anything we ever instilled in him. On the other hand he probably wouldn't have played close to even half the games at any other club than he has with us, which is also an indictment on the club. People forget he was pretty atrocious for the first few years (except when he played Collingwood & Carlton) and really only had one purple patch of about a year an a half, of which he was red hot for about a half a season and was arguably one of our most important players and had an onfield presence that was only matched at the club when Maric arrived. Most clubs however would've likely delisted him before that though and I personally thought he was close to the worst player in the AFL - an over excitable, ill-disciplined headless chicken- before he came good. (Too be fair he was being played in wrong part of the ground for the first half of his career too.) In the wash up though he was a good get for a second round rookie pick and probably second only to Foley as our best ever rookie pick up....which again could be seen as another indictment on the club.
In hindsight, I'd hazard a guess that the other players mentioned would've been at the very least on a par with King at his best even if they'd been half as good as they are with our crap development. We could certainly do with Suckling's footskills coming out of the back half, that's for damn sure.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
Absolute stuffing joke.....getting extremely hard to take this club seriously anymore...
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:chuck
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Well deserved. Unlucky not to get 3. :clapping
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Its our way of getting something, no matter how small, at the trade table.
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Its our way of getting something, no matter how small, at the trade table.
You really think the club's that smart?
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It's all due to lack of psychological counselling.
The psyche of Richmond players Is damaged and they never address it. Weak between the ears.
That's the MAIN issue.
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2 years on moderate dollars was about right.
Well done Tigers, eat em alive Titch.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
Absolute stuffing joke.....getting extremely hard to take this club seriously anymore...
Where is coach and his furious pic when u need him
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Here's the full article:
Edwards re-signs with Tigers, avoids free agency
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
May 21, 2014 4:25 PM
SHANE Edwards has recommitted to Richmond to the end of 2016 as this year's free agency pool continues to dry up.
Edwards, 25, was set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2014, but AFL.com.au understands the forward has agreed to terms with Richmond for another two seasons.
Richmond will be relieved to have secured the quick South Australian's signature, having lost fellow speedster Matt White to free agency last year, when they could not compete with a lucrative offer from Port Adelaide.
White has not missed a game for the Power this year and is averaging more than 16 possessions and 1.6 goals a game.
Edwards was taken by the Tigers with pick No. 26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and has played 137 games, including all eight of Richmond's matches this season.
Edwards' best finish in Richmond's best and fairest award came in 2010 when he finished sixth, while he has one other top-10 finish (eighth in 2012).
A host of other prospective 2014 free agents have recently re-signed with their clubs, including Carlton's Michael Jamison and Kade Simpson, Collingwood's Ben Reid and North Melbourne's Lachlan Hansen and Leigh Adams.
Two of this year's big-name free agents, Bryce Gibbs and Todd Goldstein, are also understood to be close to re-signing with Carlton and North respectively.
Richmond now has just two remaining 2014 free agents on its list: former skipper Chris Newman, 32, and forward Jake King, 30.
Neither is likely to leave the Tigers, but both could retire at the end of the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
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Well deserved. Unlucky not to get 3. :clapping
Unlucky not to get a deal like Buddy and tie him to the club till our next finals series in 2025.
Well done Tigers. :banghead
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Its our way of getting something, no matter how small, at the trade table.
You really think the club's that smart?
Only Choco.
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It's now a catch cry coach, like the "it wasn't me" episode of the simpsons. :lol
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OMG sign up the spud for another 2 years. l think l need to go overseas for several years :banghead :banghead
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:lol meltdown central :lol
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Waste of time and space!
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Here's the full article:
Edwards re-signs with Tigers, avoids free agency
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
May 21, 2014 4:25 PM
SHANE Edwards has recommitted to Richmond to the end of 2016 as this year's free agency pool continues to dry up.
Edwards, 25, was set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2014, but AFL.com.au understands the forward has agreed to terms with Richmond for another two seasons.
Richmond will be relieved to have secured the quick South Australian's signature, having lost fellow speedster Matt White to free agency last year, when they could not compete with a lucrative offer from Port Adelaide.
White has not missed a game for the Power this year and is averaging more than 16 possessions and 1.6 goals a game.
Edwards was taken by the Tigers with pick No. 26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and has played 137 games, including all eight of Richmond's matches this season.
Edwards' best finish in Richmond's best and fairest award came in 2010 when he finished sixth, while he has one other top-10 finish (eighth in 2012).
A host of other prospective 2014 free agents have recently re-signed with their clubs, including Carlton's Michael Jamison and Kade Simpson, Collingwood's Ben Reid and North Melbourne's Lachlan Hansen and Leigh Adams.
Two of this year's big-name free agents, Bryce Gibbs and Todd Goldstein, are also understood to be close to re-signing with Carlton and North respectively.
Richmond now has just two remaining 2014 free agents on its list: former skipper Chris Newman, 32, and forward Jake King, 30.
Neither is likely to leave the Tigers, but both could retire at the end of the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
I am dumbfounded to say the least, if this is an indication of the way forward then I can't see success for this club for many many years.
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Something is wrong with the drinking water at punt road
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Something is wrong with the drinking water at punt road
Sheedy got to the plumbing just before he left.
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this ladies and gentlemen is how the list management team at Richmond use your membership funds. :lol
as I have said in previous post they can all go and get stuffed
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lets not mess about. 8 of Hunter is not enough
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ffs ive come to realise they dont deserve my support or even my criticism. sthe only thing such ineptitude deserves is to be totally ignored.
id like to see just one person someone any one from that rabble try and justify a two yr contract for that bum. he should be up for trade and the very best he should be expecting after 8 very ordinary yrs is a 1yr performance based contract. he should only get that after we shop him around.
just about the straw that has broken this camels back. you can see what is going to happen. every out of contract player bar 3 or 4 will be re-signed before the end of the yr. there will be limited turn over of players. there will be few new faces and desperate areas of weakness in the list will be ignored. it is more likely than not they will take players just like s edwards in f/a because they obviously cant see player deficiencies, they think blokes like this hack can play.
it is patently clear that this rabble is totally incap[able of learning from its past mistakes and learning from clubs that succeed. they dont deserve anybodys support when they cant make one hard decision on players and are so deluded.
what a freakin rabble and welcome to the next 10 yrs of mediocrity. that is what will happen you dont have to be nostradamus to see it when decisions like this are made.
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ffs ive come to realise they dont deserve my support or even my criticism. sthe only thing such ineptitude deserves is to be totally ignored.
id like to see just one person someone any one from that rabble try and justify a two yr contract for that bum. he should be up for trade and the very best he should be expecting after 8 very ordinary yrs is a 1yr performance based contract. he should only get that after we shop him around.
just about the straw that has broken this camels back. you can see what is going to happen. every out of contract player bar 3 or 4 will be re-signed before the end of the yr. there will be limited turn over of players. there will be few new faces and desperate areas of weakness in the list will be ignored. it is more likely than not they will take players just like s edwards in f/a because they obviously cant see player deficiencies, they think blokes like this hack can play.
it is patently clear that this rabble is totally incap[able of learning from its past mistakes and learning from clubs that succeed. they dont deserve anybodys support when they cant make one hard decision on players and are so deluded.
what a freakin rabble and welcome to the next 10 yrs of mediocrity. that is what will happen you dont have to be nostradamus to see it when decisions like this are made.
If you are considering pulling your support and criticism can you throw in your forum posting
Thanks for considering
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this ladies and gentlemen is how the list management team at Richmond use your membership funds. :lol
as I have said in previous post they can all go and get stuffed
So what you're saying is it's a shrewd bit of business by the Tiges? :shh
FWIW I agree. :clapping
;D
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Well deserved. Unlucky not to get 3. :clapping
Unlucky not to get a deal like Buddy and tie him to the club till our next finals series in 2025.
Well done Tigers. :banghead
cani I pinch a line from you. PLOP.....PLOP......PLOP.... :thumbsup
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SHANE Edwards has recommitted to Richmond to the end of 2016.
Richmond will be relieved to have secured the quick South Australian's signature.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
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SHANE Edwards has recommitted to Richmond to the end of 2016.
Richmond will be relieved to have secured the quick South Australian's signature.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
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Is this an Austen Tayshus quote?
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Protected species
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We had to keep our only indigenous player for Dreamtime.
In all seriousness we don't know how much he will be getting paid. There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
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There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
:yep
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We had to keep our only indigenous player for Dreamtime.
In all seriousness we don't know how much he will be getting paid. There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
Maybe if he spent more time with his culture, he will learn how to play football
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We had to keep our only indigenous player for Dreamtime.
In all seriousness we don't know how much he will be getting paid. There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
Maybe if he spent more time with his culture, he will learn how to play football
Hahahaha so true.
he will be known as one of the biggest hacks to ever play 200 meaningless games
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Worst decision this club has made or there about. It ranks up there with the recruitment of Sanchez, P Bowden and the rest of the list clogging country players we have recruited or kept.
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Hackson & Hartley obviously drink heavily because it's clearly been more akin to pist management than list management during their disasterous tenure.
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The "brains trust" at Punt road obviously watch different games to me........ :banghead
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SHANE Edwards has recommitted to Richmond to the end of 2016.
Richmond will be relieved to have secured the quick South Australian's signature.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-21/another-free-agent-down
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Is this an Austen Tayshus quote?
A surprised koala pic. I can't believe we actually gave Titch two more years. It seems we only re-signed Edwards up because of what happened with Matty White. That's not how you do list management.
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Worst decision this club has made or there about. It ranks up there with the recruitment of Sanchez, P Bowden and the rest of the list clogging country players we have recruited or kept.
Worst decision this club has made or there about? How? Poor decision but how is it the worst decision the club has ever made
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Agreed. It will never top re-signing Grigg. That only happened a year ago. Or trading for Hampson. That happened 6 months ago. :lol
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Agreed. It will never top re-signing Grigg. That only happened a year ago. Or trading for Hampson. That happened 6 months ago. :lol
That's the thing though....what would be a major stuff up at most other clubs is just a standard stuff up at ours.
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Agreed. It will never top re-signing Grigg. That only happened a year ago. Or trading for Hampson. That happened 6 months ago. :lol
That's the thing though....what would be a major stuff up at most other clubs is just a standard stuff up at ours.
I got nothing. :banghead
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A surprised koala pic. I can't believe we actually gave Titch two more years. It seems we only re-signed Edwards up because of what happened with Matty White. That's not how you do list management.
Oh noes. Tigers are trying to help us forget about their past mistakes by topping them. Was a pretty good effort. Classic tigers.
Stay tuned, nine year contract, 1 million per year for Vickery. Have to sign him up fast before Ballarat seconds get in.
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ffs ive come to realise they dont deserve my support or even my criticism. sthe only thing such ineptitude deserves is to be totally ignored.
id like to see just one person someone any one from that rabble try and justify a two yr contract for that bum. he should be up for trade and the very best he should be expecting after 8 very ordinary yrs is a 1yr performance based contract. he should only get that after we shop him around.
just about the straw that has broken this camels back. you can see what is going to happen. every out of contract player bar 3 or 4 will be re-signed before the end of the yr. there will be limited turn over of players. there will be few new faces and desperate areas of weakness in the list will be ignored. it is more likely than not they will take players just like s edwards in f/a because they obviously cant see player deficiencies, they think blokes like this hack can play.
it is patently clear that this rabble is totally incap[able of learning from its past mistakes and learning from clubs that succeed. they dont deserve anybodys support when they cant make one hard decision on players and are so deluded.
what a freakin rabble and welcome to the next 10 yrs of mediocrity. that is what will happen you dont have to be nostradamus to see it when decisions like this are made.
If you are considering pulling your support and criticism can you throw in your forum posting
Thanks for considering
dont get in front of yourself little chucky. nobody considers anything you say. ;)
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ffs ive come to realise they dont deserve my support or even my criticism. sthe only thing such ineptitude deserves is to be totally ignored.
id like to see just one person someone any one from that rabble try and justify a two yr contract for that bum. he should be up for trade and the very best he should be expecting after 8 very ordinary yrs is a 1yr performance based contract. he should only get that after we shop him around.
just about the straw that has broken this camels back. you can see what is going to happen. every out of contract player bar 3 or 4 will be re-signed before the end of the yr. there will be limited turn over of players. there will be few new faces and desperate areas of weakness in the list will be ignored. it is more likely than not they will take players just like s edwards in f/a because they obviously cant see player deficiencies, they think blokes like this hack can play.
it is patently clear that this rabble is totally incap[able of learning from its past mistakes and learning from clubs that succeed. they dont deserve anybodys support when they cant make one hard decision on players and are so deluded.
what a freakin rabble and welcome to the next 10 yrs of mediocrity. that is what will happen you dont have to be nostradamus to see it when decisions like this are made.
If you are considering pulling your support and criticism can you throw in your forum posting
Thanks for considering
dont get in front of yourself little chucky. nobody considers anything you say. ;)
It was just a suggestion, no need to get all hoyty toyty
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Well deserved. Unlucky not to get 3. :clapping
Unlucky not to get a deal like Buddy and tie him to the club till our next finals series in 2025.
Well done Tigers. :banghead
cani I pinch a line from you. PLOP.....PLOP......PLOP.... :thumbsup
You already have TS. :thumbsup
Plop Plop Plop. :help
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ffs ive come to realise they dont deserve my support or even my criticism. sthe only thing such ineptitude deserves is to be totally ignored.
id like to see just one person someone any one from that rabble try and justify a two yr contract for that bum. he should be up for trade and the very best he should be expecting after 8 very ordinary yrs is a 1yr performance based contract. he should only get that after we shop him around.
just about the straw that has broken this camels back. you can see what is going to happen. every out of contract player bar 3 or 4 will be re-signed before the end of the yr. there will be limited turn over of players. there will be few new faces and desperate areas of weakness in the list will be ignored. it is more likely than not they will take players just like s edwards in f/a because they obviously cant see player deficiencies, they think blokes like this hack can play.
it is patently clear that this rabble is totally incap[able of learning from its past mistakes and learning from clubs that succeed. they dont deserve anybodys support when they cant make one hard decision on players and are so deluded.
what a freakin rabble and welcome to the next 10 yrs of mediocrity. that is what will happen you dont have to be nostradamus to see it when decisions like this are made.
If you are considering pulling your support and criticism can you throw in your forum posting
Thanks for considering
dont get in front of yourself little chucky. nobody considers anything you say. ;)
It was just a suggestion, no need to get all hoyty toyty
no need to be a continual smart arse. takes two to bud.
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We had to keep our only indigenous player for Dreamtime.
In all seriousness we don't know how much he will be getting paid. There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
so you agree he needs to go not just now. so what about trades. sillier things have happened. restricted f/a some club may have been dumb enough.
with out a doubt he should only have got a one yr performance based contract if we were to give him a contract at all. that contract should not have been given until the end of trade week.
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We had to keep our only indigenous player for Dreamtime.
In all seriousness we don't know how much he will be getting paid. There are a lot of players that need to be delisted before him. Probably 2 years worth funnily enough. Sad but true.
so you agree he needs to go not just now. so what about trades. sillier things have happened. restricted f/a some club may have been dumb enough.
with out a doubt he should only have got a one yr performance based contract if we were to give him a contract at all. that contract should not have been given until the end of trade week.
yep I was hoping he'd stuff off and we'd get a compo pick. I've got 7 though I'd like to see us get rid of first. Some coach will think they can get something out of vickery, then I'd cut batch, Helbig and ohanlon. Hopefully newy King and the other Edwards all retire. That's enough for now. Agree he should have only got one but I'm sure we can still find enough to cut next year anyway.
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Killed it today
Those hands wow so quick
Still can't believe we got him for another 2
Great effort Dan R
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Killed it today
Those hands wow so quick
Still can't believe we got him for another 2
Great effort Dan R
Agreed. Should mount a late challenge to Ablett on Brownlow night from here.
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Played a physical game well.
Needs to do the same against quality opposition who are more physical and apply pressure
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Played a physical game well.
Needs to do the same against quality opposition who are more physical and apply pressure
what game were you watching?
He is hopeless, cant even stick a tackle if his life depended on it.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
I watched the game very closely dont worry about that.
Who played great today.
Graham
Ellis
Dusty
Conca
Chaplain
Jack
liked Hoili and Grigg today also.
Edwards is not one of those who played great as you say, so i suggest you get your mouth out of his date and watch the game again.
Your comments on the club rating him. Interesting, perhaps that's why we have won 3 games all year when we have to rely on this dud pulling out a descent game more than once a month which never happens.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
I watched the game very closely dont worry about that.
Who played great today.
Graham
Ellis
Dusty
Conca
Chaplain
Jack
liked Hoili and Grigg today also.
Edwards is not one of those who played great as you say, so i suggest you get your mouth out of his date and watch the game again.
Your comments on the club rating him. Interesting, perhaps that's why we have won 3 games all year when we have to rely on this dud pulling out a descent game more than once a month which never happens.
this is mad talk.
i might add the people you question here are professionals. for example Mr Magic has been around senior grade football for 22 years.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
I watched the game very closely dont worry about that.
Who played great today.
Graham
Ellis
Dusty
Conca
Chaplain
Jack
liked Hoili and Grigg today also.
Edwards is not one of those who played great as you say, so i suggest you get your mouth out of his date and watch the game again.
Your comments on the club rating him. Interesting, perhaps that's why we have won 3 games all year when we have to rely on this dud pulling out a descent game more than once a month which never happens.
this is mad talk.
i might add the people you question here are professionals. for example Mr Magic has been around senior grade football for 22 years.
WGAF. he has an opinion and i do also. Just to give you an insight into some others who have been in the game for over 22 years
Spud
T Wallace
Jeff Gieschen
How was their track record at identifying talent?
Edwards is a spud only blind men cant see that. Its why we will never challenge for a flag.
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suggest you watch the replay please
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Running into a nice vein of form ye old titch, keep it up :clapping
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Opposition had some very damaged witches hats after Titchs game yesterday
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Opposition had some very damaged witches hats after Titchs game yesterday
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
I watched the game very closely dont worry about that.
Who played great today.
Graham
Ellis
Dusty
Conca
Chaplain
Jack
liked Hoili and Grigg today also.
Edwards is not one of those who played great as you say, so i suggest you get your mouth out of his date and watch the game again.
Your comments on the club rating him. Interesting, perhaps that's why we have won 3 games all year when we have to rely on this dud pulling out a descent game more than once a month which never happens.
You think Ellis played well? IMO 30 odd meaningless touches.... Again. I must admit a watch him more closely than most and yesterday his efforts to tackle and more importantly HOLD a tackle were putrid.
I prefer Grigg than this bloke. And Houli.
He will never change so get rid of him while we can.
Makes me angry even thinking about him.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now. backed yourself so far into a corner you only see the little bit of good he does. talk about blinkered.
8 yrs in and hes basically at where he started. just one short period where he consistently performed a role to a decent level. but boy he sure as hell reverts back to mediocrity soon enough.
i dont know what game you watched magic but it was another typical edwards game where he does one or two nice things gets plenty wrong and disappears for huge chunks of games.
the only redeeming part to his game has been him winning a bit of contested ball.
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Hopefully he can play like yesterday ALL the time. Club has backed him. He has to extract the digit on a consistent basis now.
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Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now. backed yourself so far into a corner you only see the little bit of good he does. talk about blinkered.
8 yrs in and hes basically at where he started. just one short period where he consistently performed a role to a decent level. but boy he sure as hell reverts back to mediocrity soon enough.
i dont know what game you watched magic but it was another typical edwards game where he does one or two nice things gets plenty wrong and disappears for huge chunks of games.
the only redeeming part to his game has been him winning a bit of contested ball.
Suggest you watch the replay too. had a good game.
15 silk quality disposals 3 marks 2 tackles and a goal. played a physical game too with plenty of hip n shoulders, hard sheppards and many other team orientated 1 percenters.
ill take his game over a 25 odd possesion game which is ineffective that the likes of houli grigg and others keep churning out
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Hopefully he can play like yesterday ALL the time. Club has backed him. He has to extract the digit on a consistent basis now.
he got another two yrs he doesnt have to extract a thing. if yesterday was good enough for you we are accepting mediocrity.
hes no longer a kid hes a 26yo 120 odd game player who should be serving up much more than that.
Thought he played great and showed exactly why he is rated by the club. Some need to open their eyes.
how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now. backed yourself so far into a corner you only see the little bit of good he does. talk about blinkered.
8 yrs in and hes basically at where he started. just one short period where he consistently performed a role to a decent level. but boy he sure as hell reverts back to mediocrity soon enough.
i dont know what game you watched magic but it was another typical edwards game where he does one or two nice things gets plenty wrong and disappears for huge chunks of games.
the only redeeming part to his game has been him winning a bit of contested ball.
Suggest you watch the replay too. had a good game.
15 silk quality disposals 3 marks 2 tackles and a goal. played a physical game too with plenty of hip n shoulders, hard sheppards and many other team orientated 1 percenters.
ill take his game over a 25 odd possesion game which is ineffective that the likes of houli grigg and others keep churning out
watched it closely and his game was ordinary as i said supporters it seems are very accepting of mediocrity.
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suggest you watch the replay please.
hes never going to win the brownlow but hes in our best 22 BY FAR and would be at any other club.
What sort of output is a pass for him in your eyes?
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Last 3 weeks(incl geelong game as sub) have been a pass mark for me. Problem is he all too often dishes up what he did in the first 6 weeks of the season.
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Not the weakest player in the 22
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His main problem is in big games or big moments in games he shanks kicks leading to turnovers and invariably goals. Really needs to eradicate this from his game.
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Agree Y&B..thats why you build the berlin wall across the centre line and Tell Titch the midfield is a no go zone for you and you only....and maybe grigg too ;D
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
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Don't get me riled up on this Spud. How many good games in 8 years. give him a lollipop to suck on for yesterday game
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Don't get me riled up on this Spud. How many good games in 8 years. give him a lollipop to suck on for yesterday game
Agreed Monk we have a few spuds play good games against a side that last start lost by 111 points after a week where one of our own put us under the microscope and people are sold.
Next 4 weeks fellas. Lets see if these spuds can back yesterday up.
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Edwards was good yesterday his work away from the ball was very good
However, let's not get carried away the Giants were non competitive yesterday, everyone looked good ;D
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Don't get me riled up on this Spud. How many good games in 8 years. give him a lollipop to suck on for yesterday game
Agreed Monk we have a few spuds play good games against a side that last start lost by 111 points after a week where one of our own put us under the microscope and people are sold.
Next 4 weeks fellas. Lets see if these spuds can back yesterday up.
very true, GWS are down on their Gems just as much as Tigerland. Next week will tell a thousand truths. Druggies will come out firing. What our lads have to do is stop the Druggies quick scoring in the first 10 minutes of the game & nail some goals ourselves. Knock out king roids & ruffle them up a bit. best thing is to have Edwards stand in front of the emergency umpire while this is happening to block his view ;D l have some serious money on next weeks game so they better all play well.
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You reckon with the media & the blow torch & my sharp axe on Titch that he will play for his tribe this weekend & turn into super titch & maybe get BOG for our money ;D
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You reckon with the media & the blow torch & my sharp axe on Titch that he will play for his tribe this weekend & turn into super titch & maybe get BOG for our money ;D
I reckon he is going to pull out one of the best shanks of all time
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You reckon with the media & the blow torch & my sharp axe on Titch that he will play for his tribe this weekend & turn into super titch & maybe get BOG for our money ;D
I reckon he is going to pull out one of the best shanks of all time
well l hope your right cause its about time he pulled his weight down there & give the supporters some top efforts. his only got 1 season after this & his out the door. Wanna get something out of him
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Titch is an ass nickname
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He owes nobody nothing.
Give him a break guys there are plenty of guys which the blowtorch should be crqnked up on and Titch is not one of them. FACT
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He owes nobody nothing.
Give him a break guys there are plenty of guys which the blowtorch should be crqnked up on and Titch is not one of them. FACT
think you need to get off the shawitzi mate.
The only facts in this subject are
1. I am right
2. Tambling has done SFA apart from 26 out of a possible 130 games.
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Some people just like to complain about everything and usually those that do are miserable sacks in real life.
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Some people just like to complain about everything and usually those that do are miserable sacks in real life.
nice deflection pal but not everyone just spuds like the following
Tambling Edwards
Graham
Grigg
Newman
remove them from our list now and we are sorted.
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He owes nobody nothing.
Give him a break guys there are plenty of guys which the blowtorch should be crqnked up on and Titch is not one of them. FACT
think you need to get off the shawitzi mate.
The only facts in this subject are
1. I am right
2. Tambling has done SFA apart from 26 out of a possible 130 games.
1. Incorrect.
2. Incorrect again.
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The only facts in this subject are
1. I am right
:lol POTY Dan! Spoken like a true OERite. ;D
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Edwards was good yesterday his work away from the ball was very good
However, let's not get carried away the Giants were non competitive yesterday, everyone looked good ;D
Truest comment to date!! Stupid to take anything out of this IMO. Beat Nth and the Bombers by the same (well at least win) and I will be a bit more satisfied, lose are we are no better than we have been all year and that's pooe.
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Edwards was good yesterday his work away from the ball was very good
However, let's not get carried away the Giants were non competitive yesterday, everyone looked good ;D
Truest comment to date!! Stupid to take anything out of this IMO. Beat the Bombers next week by the same and I will be a bit more satisfied, lose are we are no better than we have been all year and that's pooe.
Well let's hope the boys pull through for you then
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Stupid to take anything out of this IMO. Beat Nth and the Bombers by the same (well at least win) and i will be s bit more satisfied.
This is the last time im going to say it. Please watch the replay before you make comment on Edwards game.
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Stupid to take anything out of this IMO. Beat Nth and the Bombers by the same (well at least win) and i will be s bit more satisfied.
This is the last time im going to say it. Please watch the replay before you make comment on Edwards game.
which part was i supposed to be watching?
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Is shredder worse than
Houli
Jackson
Thomas
Grigg
?
I believe this to be a more pertient question as opposed to "Edwards is shyte end of delist and replace with draft pick 200"
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yes he is by a fair margin. He is equal to Angus Hampson as the worst player i have seen wear the jumper.
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Dreamtime over for this year, got to toss the coin, no further reason to pick him now.
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He will be the worst Richmond player to ever reach 150 games .
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He will be the worst Richmond player to ever reach 150 games .
After he retires having played 300 games in 2022 coincidentally the year prior to our next finals window is open the club will award a medal at the Jack Dyer Medal to the player on the list who will clog the list like a bronchial 75 year old more than any other but remain on the list.
They will call it the Phlegm Award and it will have Titch image on it.
The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop.©
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Love how we defend our players these days.. "well we have others who are even pooer"
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yes he is by a fair margin. He is equal to Angus Hampson as the worst player i have seen wear the jumper.
i agree.
how many are we going to cut both list proper and rookies. to me at least 6 from the list proper 3 rookies.
for me list proper
newman retire
azza retire.
king retire,
batchelor delist.
vickery/griffiths trade. one of.
leaves one to go from
edwards,ohanlon, helbig, petterd, knights, foley,
would have cut edwards here if he was uncontracted.
rookies
stephenson
darrou
thomas.
banfield.
sad thing is theres another 10 i would not be surprised to see cut at some stage. the thing that nags me though is why cut anyone unless we get better with our recruiting.
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Love how we defend our players these days.. "well we have others who are even pooer"
Set the bar high we do at RFC.
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
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IMO and in all honesty, anyone that see's S.Edwards as part of the RFC future or as a GF player is completely delusional...this is only MO though.
I would much rather put Banfield in the team (elevate him) and give him a crack. A 1 goal return from a crumbing forward is not acceptable and other than goals in junk time he has done nothing, he has done nothing for 8 stuffing years, nothing!!!!
He rates with the pathetic recruitment of Fiora, Pattison, Polo (much better), Myres, JON, Tambling, Roberts and the like.
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IMO and in all honesty, anyone that see's S.Edwards as part of the RFC future or as a GF player is completely delusional...this is only MO though.
I would much rather put Banfield in the team (elevate him) and give him a crack. A 1 goal return from a crumbing forward is not acceptable and other than goals in junk time he has done nothing, he has done nothing for 8 stuffing years, nothing!!!!
He rates with the pathetic recruitment of Fiora, Pattison, Polo (much better), Myres, JON, Tambling, Roberts and the like.
Relton was just too fat. He could actually play.
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Apart from that kick out on the full I thou the had a pretty good game with his two goals , worst player to wear a RFC jumper :lol...get a clue
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
WAT: Not disputing that edwards has been terrible this year compared to last year. But having said that there are others ahead of him that should be flicked before he goes and that is the problem with our list in a nutshell
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
With due respect how many games do you too watch live a year? Edwards will be there for a while yet mate.
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
With due respect how many games do you too watch live a year? Edwards will be there for a while yet mate.
I don't have a problem with Edwards per se. What I do have a problem with is how guys like him can have 4 bad games in a row and still get picked. While guys like Griff who needs development and confidence are often dropped after one bad one.
Rules for some and rules for others is one of the big problems I see Dimma facing currently. The response from the playing group is there for all to see.
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IMO and in all honesty, anyone that see's S.Edwards as part of the RFC future or as a GF player is completely delusional...this is only MO though.
I would much rather put Banfield in the team (elevate him) and give him a crack. A 1 goal return from a crumbing forward is not acceptable and other than goals in junk time he has done nothing, he has done nothing for 8 stuffing years, nothing!!!!
He rates with the pathetic recruitment of Fiora, Pattison, Polo (much better), Myres, JON, Tambling, Roberts and the like.
I demand that clean knees Hughes be puts on that list
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
With due respect how many games do you too watch live a year? Edwards will be there for a while yet mate.
questioning how many games a person has seen is that all yopu have.
ive seen edwards heaps of times live and every time i see him its the same old same old.
simply put hes been a bum.
if hes not in the worst 6 or 8 at the club fine trade him he may have some value. one thing for sure the only possible thing that has kept him on our list is tthere have been worse players than him every yr.
the hack has rarely been up to standard over any sort of sustained period and he continues to make the exact same mistakes over and over. and over.its comical. this bloke has shown time and time again that what we see is what we get hes at his ceiling and it aint good enough.
how poor are we we refuse to cut poorly performed players after 8 yrs because theres supposedly worse players to cut.you cant see theres something wrong in that process. players like edwards are a disease and while we play the likes of him instead of trying to find better we will remain a basket case.
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I've attended most of Richmond's Melbourne games and the odd interstate match throughout Shankwards career and he has been close to poo in the vast majority of them. Whether he's in possession, off the ball, in the middle, up forward, defending, attacking you name it.
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how many yrs have you backed this hack in for now.
Plenty & I'll back him for the next two and beyond that as well. 8)
He was excellent yesterday. It's you who needs to remove the blinkers.
thats just it you will back him in for the next two yrs no matter what he offers up. did i say blinkered i was being kind.
Watch the work Edwards does off the ball at a game sometime from your flat in Perth or wherever you live in WA..
Oh yes that's right you only watch us on the TV blinkers boy. ::)
Football is not just about what you do when you have the ball.
Edwards is one of our hardest workers defensively. Yes he has flaws (who in our side doesn't) but is clearly in our best 22 and will be for some time yet whilst there are plenty worse.
MM, with all due respect, you have been blindsided by Edwards for too long mate, he is just a list clogger..
WAT: Not disputing that edwards has been terrible this year compared to last year. But having said that there are others ahead of him that should be flicked before he goes and that is the problem with our list in a nutshell
here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
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here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
Here we go again, you reading and acknowledging what you want ;D
So I put it back to you
Who would you flick out of these 5 and you can only flick 1 of the 5
Hampson, Chaplin, Grigg, Edwards S, Houli?
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here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
Here we go again, you reading and acknowledging what you want ;D
So I put it back to you
Who would you flick out of these 5 and you can only flick 1 of the 5
Hampson, Chaplin, Grigg, Edwards S, Houli?
Hampson easy, I have never seen such a poor game.
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here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
Here we go again, you reading and acknowledging what you want ;D
So I put it back to you
Who would you flick out of these 5 and you can only flick 1 of the 5
Hampson, Chaplin, Grigg, Edwards S, Houli?
That's a good post WP & me being a coach l would get rid of Houli. Reason is he is one player who will never man up or lay the required tackle at the right time. If Grigg can hold Selwood for part of a game he has some role. Edwards has a role if he is played there instead of midfield & Hampson has something to offer as big men are harder to come by. & the other reason is because his trying to bring religion into our game which won't be tolerated. There will be no prey rooms. Its time to go Houli.
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here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
Here we go again, you reading and acknowledging what you want ;D
So I put it back to you
Who would you flick out of these 5 and you can only flick 1 of the 5
Hampson, Chaplin, Grigg, Edwards S, Houli?
That's a good post WP & me being a coach l would get rid of Houli. Reason is he is one player who will never man up or lay the required tackle at the right time. If Grigg can hold Selwood for part of a game he has some role. Edwards has a role if he is played there instead of midfield & Hampson has something to offer as big men are harder to come by. & the other reason is because his trying to bring religion into our game which won't be tolerated. There will be no prey rooms. Its time to go Houli.
Hallelujah! Well said. This is a sport that does not look at religion. Bar Good Friday, and that will go soon, we do not bow to any religion. Prayer rooms for muslims? Where does it end? Do we look after Hindus, Buddhists etc etc too?
Do we have chapels at foory grounds? No.
Sportsmen compete from all religions on an equal footing. Why we bend over for Islam is beyond me.
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l have nothing against religions but if they did, Than l would get a petition going & a stampede to lower the cost of beer prices to $2.50 a cup & a $1.50 pie at the footy for Australians because l'm a pie & beer man & love me footy ;D
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here we go with that "other players worse mantra" again
please
Here we go again, you reading and acknowledging what you want ;D
So I put it back to you
Who would you flick out of these 5 and you can only flick 1 of the 5
Hampson, Chaplin, Grigg, Edwards S, Houli?
hmm hampson and chaplin are badly needed for structure and depth in those positions. they may be poor but there is no other options atm.and unless we go out and get mature replacements for them it will take time to draft and develop players to replace em. we should be looking for replacements though.
the other 3 thats a tough one.
based on overall performance its edwards, both grigg and houli have regularly given more despite their weaknesses. as mids i believe all 3 can easily be replaced and none are crucial.all three have glaring weaknesses in their games. they are your typical glass half fulls. edwards has it over the other two as far as being a fwd goes. but hes a poor mans fwd. id prefer to play jake king as a sml fwd or give lloyd a decent go. we have to do better than all three.
houli plays down back and we have better options imo. sheesh conca vlastuin, dea, morris.
grigg kills the other two for ruun and spread and and finding the ball, he imo is the better mid of the three but lacks in crucial areas. i think hes been the most consistent of the 3 but has always lacked in the defensive side of the game.
would it really matter which one we cut all three need to go over the next few yrs. the fact it takes so long to weed players like these blokes out is part of the problem.
for me the scary thing with our mids is there are only 4 who have performed to a decent level on a consistent basis yr in yr out just 4. grigg and edwards exacerbate this problem. edwards while he may pop up and play the odd good game the norm for him is below standard.
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Edwards has not performed on consistent basis this year and therefore should be dropped until regains form. If going to play Edwards would rather him in the forwardline. Is generally good at handpassing and is okay at crumbing the packs.
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Plus he has a weird Easter Island head.
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Another pathetic insipid performance from shewards.
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SNIP
Keep the racist and vilification comments off the Forum
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Hate missing a snip
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to get it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
Nothing has changed and some of you are still supporting this hack.
I made that comment on page 13. How sad that the claw, WA tiger and I still have to point out what a ordinary footballer this guy is.
Are there worse on the list? Maybe. How sad is that?
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Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.
But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.
Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to get it right.
Not good enough, prefer others.
Nothing has changed and some of you are still supporting this hack.
I made that comment on page 13. How sad that the claw, WA tiger and I still have to point out what a ordinary footballer this guy is.
Are there worse on the list? Maybe. How sad is that?
:thumbsup
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Only saw the game on TV but this guy just seems to have no idea how to get his own ball, appeared to chase tail all night. Think it's time for Dimma to give him a break in the VFL, he is a passenger, get some games into the kids.
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Shane Edwards is a nothing player.
If Grigg is a seagull, Titch is the soggy chip that Grigg seeks.
As Eddie Murphy said in Raw.
"Nothing from nothing leaves nothing."
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Snip again
Angus your comment was sniped because it was a homophobic slur, it vilified just like the pathetic racist comment did
End of story
And a final reminder and this is directed at EVERYONE keep the racists and vilification off the forum or you'll be taking a 48 hour holiday
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This guy.... :banghead :banghead :banghead
Dead set loser, worst player in the AFL!!!!!!!
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This guy.... :banghead :banghead :banghead
Dead set loser, worst player in the AFL!!!!!!!
Did you watch the whole game? was the reason we got back into the game.
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played much much much better than captain impersonator fraud cotchin
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Just got home from the packed MCG. 22k wowwee.
Actually thought he had a pretty good game today did Shed.
Dunno what sort of goose would be bagging Cotchin, played his guts out today.
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Another typical Shankwards effort - a 5 minute burst that ultimately amounted to nothing in the end and was complimented by a generally useless game otherwise.
played much much much better than captain impersonator fraud cotchin
No he didn't, like most Cotchin bashers, .
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played much much much better than captain impersonator fraud cotchin
When Shankwards finishes second in a Brownlow then compare him to Cotch. :help
Doubt Cotch would even talk to Shank though their lockers are next to each other. ;D
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Just can't kick...
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Just can't kick...
Just can't play.
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This guy is clearly a SPUD that needs to be delisted out of the AFL. He is not a AFL footballer & never has been
He runs around packs like a farm dogs circling sheep
l would donate RFC 10k just to get rid of him
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Extended contract.
Circus RFC in town
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
Like Hamspud with the hit-outs. The problem is he has to be somewhere for the rest of the game.
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
Like Hamspud with the hit-outs. The problem is he has to be somewhere for the rest of the game.
He is. Well away from the action is where he is located. Didn't see him.
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
yeah good player
not the problem :whistle
only maric and deledio are better players and older :shh
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Did he play tonight?
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
yeah good player
not the problem :whistle
No, crap player and part of the problem.
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To be fair thought his in close work was sublime, no shanks - pity he only touched it 10-12 times
yeah good player
not the problem :whistle
No, crap player and part of the problem.
na hes got sick hands
diesel williams :bow
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Titch Edwards nowhere man.
He's not here, he's not there he's not anywhere. He's Titch Edwards.®©™
Yet it was claimed on here Dusty should be shopped around because he doesn't run both ways but Titch getting a 2 year contract was well deserved. :lol :rollin :lol
The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™
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Titch's post-match interview ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-06/round-16-edwards-postmatch
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Actually the last post here before today was a fortnight ago......he must be on quite a roll....
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Game against Brisbane was very good but he needs to produce that performance week on week off and not just against poor teams.
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Or maybe people have stopped giving a poo about this hack
You must be pinching yourself magic he had them all dancing on a dollar against the likes of veterans lui Taylor and paparone
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It's time for all the stubborn ones with blinkers on to concede that Titch ain't going nowhere, he is a valued member of the team and his hands in close are second to none. Take the blinkers off guys and accept the fact that he can play
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
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Cops a lot of poo and I can see why. He could definitely be upgraded but we have bigger fish to fry. He frequently breaks plays open with quick hands through traffic and hits people who are free or puts it into space, so just that alone would deserve a spot in the team considering our list.
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It's time for all the stubborn ones with blinkers on to concede that Titch ain't going nowhere, he is a valued member of the team and his hands in close are second to none. Take the blinkers off guys and accept the fact that he can play
:shh
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As Elim and Dan said, he played pretty well this week but he just doesn't do it often enough and that's the most frustrating part of it. You can't rely on him week in week out to produce games of a satisfactory standard.
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
Did you watch the game, he did play OK against brisbane lions, granted his season on the whole has been crap but the original comment was in regards to the Lions game
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How them blinkers? Stubborn to get off. Love him or have him almost every game titch has displayed; exceptional hands in close, creative attacking handball, excellent crumbing, good pace. Qualities several rfc players lack.
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
Did you watch the game, he did play OK against brisbane lions, granted his season on the whole has been crap but the original comment was in regards to the Lions game
I watched it and I watched him specifically. I tried to look for positives every time he went near the ball and I found very little to nothing. The quick hands crap that seem to save him week in week out is ridiculous. There is no point having quick hands if you get the ball to a team mate that is tackled immediately...he really offers little, we have been having this argument for years and he is still the same, he has not changed. He has the cameo games twice a year, has the quick hands..bla bla bla.....he is not good and he is not the future. he should have games like Betts does!!!
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Kicks for goal like a lockett dunstall hybrid
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
Did you watch the game, he did play OK against brisbane lions, granted his season on the whole has been crap but the original comment was in regards to the Lions game
I watched it and I watched him specifically. I tried to look for positives every time he went near the ball and I found very little to nothing. The quick hands crap that seem to save him week in week out is ridiculous. There is no point having quick hands if you get the ball to a team mate that is tackled immediately...he really offers little, we have been having this argument for years and he is still the same, he has not changed. He has the cameo games twice a year, has the quick hands..bla bla bla.....he is not good and he is not the future. he should have games like Betts does!!!
He cant have games likes betts because he is nowhere near as good, but yesterday he played well
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
Did you watch the game, he did play OK against brisbane lions, granted his season on the whole has been crap but the original comment was in regards to the Lions game
I watched it and I watched him specifically. I tried to look for positives every time he went near the ball and I found very little to nothing. The quick hands crap that seem to save him week in week out is ridiculous. There is no point having quick hands if you get the ball to a team mate that is tackled immediately...he really offers little, we have been having this argument for years and he is still the same, he has not changed. He has the cameo games twice a year, has the quick hands..bla bla bla.....he is not good and he is not the future. he should have games like Betts does!!!
He cant have games likes betts because he is nowhere near as good, but yesterday he played well
That's fine, we look at his style of play differently, how has he been over the season?? How has he been over the years??? how will he go next week...???
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:lol
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:lol
:huh..really, you of all people???
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
Get over him, FFS, we have watched 9 years of his crap and listened to your crap about him for the same amount of time.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
As AH said we have given up, what's the point, he is staying and we will have to watch his VFL/country style of football, accompanied by poor skills, a county level football body, poor decision making and lack of effort until he leaves....."he leaves" because we sure as hell wont get rid of the shank!!! :banghead
Did you watch the game, he did play OK against brisbane lions, granted his season on the whole has been crap but the original comment was in regards to the Lions game
I watched it and I watched him specifically. I tried to look for positives every time he went near the ball and I found very little to nothing. The quick hands crap that seem to save him week in week out is ridiculous. There is no point having quick hands if you get the ball to a team mate that is tackled immediately...he really offers little, we have been having this argument for years and he is still the same, he has not changed. He has the cameo games twice a year, has the quick hands..bla bla bla.....he is not good and he is not the future. he should have games like Betts does!!!
He cant have games likes betts because he is nowhere near as good, but yesterday he played well
That's fine, we look at his style of play differently, how has he been over the season?? How has he been over the years??? how will he go next week...???
No we dont, we both think he is crap.
However you said he played crap against the lions and this was not the case.
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ive only watched a quarter and a bit so i cant comment on his game.
if he had a good game good on him. its not his first decent game and if he plays enough wont be his last.
the gripe with him is his total inconsistency and the constant same weaknesses in his game that just dont get better.
a decent game should be the norm it should not be the odd cameo here and there.
he rwally has been very ordinary over the journey and he really should have been cut 4 seasons ago.
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:lol
:huh..really, you of all people???
He's not going anywhere. Think you need to get over it.
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:lol
:huh..really, you of all people???
He's not going anywhere. Think you need to get over it.
oh dont worry i think plenty are over the rfc and players like edwards not sure if you have noticed but heaps have just giving up in droves. thats what happens when your club cant get things right and hangs onto hacks like edwards for such inordinate lengths of time.
i wouldnt be encouraging to many to get over it you may find yourself the only one left if they arent careful.
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i wouldnt be encouraging to many to get over it you may find yourself the only one left if they arent careful.
You've been over the club a long time ago. Don't know why you bother typing anything.
Not much better to do?
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Has deserved some criticism in the past but I thought he played pretty well on the weekend.
Interesting stats so far this year. Been a bit of a quiet achiever.
Edwards has been a solid contributor for Richmond all season – he is second at the Club for total clearances, equal second for inside 50s, equal third for goal assists, fourth for goals (16) and fourth for tackles.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards
Bottom line is now as a senior player he needs to be delivering this stuff regularly.
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Thought it was one of his better games on Saturday
He has had a shocking year that's not in dispute but on Saturday he certainly wasn't the worse. Was in the best 6-10 IMHO
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Thought it was one of his better games on Saturday
He has had a shocking year that's not in dispute but on Saturday he certainly wasn't the worse. Was in the best 6-10 IMHO
well woopty stuffin do
remind me who we played again and remind me where we are on the ladder.
These downhill skiers play descent footy when the season is shot and we go from the hunted to hunter to quote caro, because the little tamblings cant handle the pressure.
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Edwards has been a solid contributor for Richmond all season – he is second at the Club for total clearances, equal second for inside 50s, equal third for goal assists, fourth for goals (16) and fourth for tackles.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards
:shh
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second at the club for clearances?
Bah, whats the point of getting the hard ball and winning a clearance if the player you give it to just goes backwards?
Clearances are sooo overrated...... :whistle
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Got some stats to back that crap up?
Allan...
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#2 for clearances (a very important stat as everyone knows
Almost #2 for goals
#2 inside 50s
#3rd goal assists
Gee whiz. Might give the all Australian side a shake :shh
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Shall we make a list of people Shane Edwards is better than?
I'll start.
Grigg
Houli
A Edwards
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Got some stats to back that crap up?
Allan...
:lol
better give your sarcasm detector a tune up Bents.
thought the :whistle may have been a give away....
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#2 for clearances (a very important stat as everyone knows
Almost #2 for goals
#2 inside 50s
#3rd goal assists
Gee whiz. Might give the all Australian side a shake :shh
All this tells me is that the rest of our midfield should hang their heads in shame and it is no surprise that were are at the bottom of the ladder.
Just like jacko winning our B&F, you just shake your head and go WTF
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Got some stats to back that crap up?
Allan...
:lol
better give your sarcasm detector a tune up Bents.
thought the :whistle may have been a give away....
Sorry, got excited
Titch :bow
#1 for aboringalness too 8)
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Got some stats to back that crap up?
Allan...
:lol
better give your sarcasm detector a tune up Bents.
thought the :whistle may have been a give away....
Sorry, got excited
Rumour is that happended last night as well
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Edwards reaps rewards
richmondfc.com.au
July 7, 2014 10:50 AM
Shane Edwards produced his best performance of the season, kicking two goals and recording 27 disposals (13 contested), six inside 50s, three tackles and a team-high nine clearances.
Edwards has been a solid contributor for Richmond all season – he is second at the Club for total clearances, equal second for inside 50s, equal third for goal assists, fourth for goals (16) and fourth for tackles.
His two goals against Brisbane was the 24th time in his career that he has achieved multiple goals in a game.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards
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;D
Chucky, the problem doesn't lie with the bloke rating high in those areas though.
and in fairness to Jackson, his B&F was in our most successful year for a long time.
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Edwards reaps rewards
richmondfc.com.au
July 7, 2014 10:50 AM
Shane Edwards produced his best performance of the season, kicking two goals and recording 27 disposals (13 contested), six inside 50s, three tackles and a team-high nine clearances.
Edwards has been a solid contributor for Richmond all season – he is second at the Club for total clearances, equal second for inside 50s, equal third for goal assists, fourth for goals (16) and fourth for tackles.
His two goals against Brisbane was the 24th time in his career that he has achieved multiple goals in a game.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards
yay he has made it, contract extension time
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;D
Chucky, the problem doesn't lie with the bloke rating high in those areas though.
Definitely agree on that, good on them for over performing, shame on the other spuds for being shown up
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Shall we make a list of people Shane Edwards is better than?
I'll start.
Grigg
Houli
A Edwards
Thomas
Jackson
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Shall we make a list of people Shane Edwards is better than?
I'll start.
Grigg
Houli
A Edwards
Thomas
Jackson
Hamspud
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In a rich vein of form is Edwards , handling gate pill like its on a string and showing a clean pair of heels just quietly , PA wouldn't wanna take him lightly :shh
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In a rich vein of form is Edwards , handling gate pill like its on a string and showing a clean pair of heels just quietly , PA wouldn't wanna take him lightly :shh
Since he is about 50 kilos most other sides cant help but take him lightly
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Waste of space...wake up...
Have a look what he does with his disposals....shanks and turns them over..
I suppose Ellis is in Brownlow form based on Edwards crap.. ::)
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Turning 26 this year. Not been able to produce good games consistently and has struggled against the better teams. Against Brisbane was very good but the season is over and that win counts for nothing. Maybe worth trying to trade him. If we are going to succeed tough decisions need to be made and he stands out as one that consideration should be given to trading.
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Thought it was one of his better games on Saturday
He has had a shocking year that's not in dispute but on Saturday he certainly wasn't the worse. Was in the best 6-10 IMHO
well woopty stuffin do
remind me who we played again and remind me where we are on the ladder.
These downhill skiers play descent footy when the season is shot and we go from the hunted to hunter to quote caro, because the little tamblings cant handle the pressure.
So which part of "he's had a shocking year" didn't you understand?
Thought he played well on Saturday that's all, doesn't hide how bad he's been majority of the year
Well aware of who we played, just like when we played GWS and St Kilda, players look great but I've said let's not get carried away with any of them ;D
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He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
You have 0 credibility after that comment. Bang on as much as you want about how he's a dud and it's hard to defend but to say he was rubbish yet again proves you have blinkers on and can't admit he had a good game
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It was only against Brisbane but he did play really well in a midfield role and to suggest otherwise is pretty silly.
Hopefully can follow it up against Port.
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In a rich vein of form is Edwards , handling gate pill like its on a string and showing a clean pair of heels just quietly , PA wouldn't wanna take him lightly :shh
Sure is played his one good game for the year against inexperienced and weak opposition.
Trade now while the price is less skata than next week.
Expect his next game when he contributes in a meaningful way some time in mid 2015 :help
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He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
You have 0 credibility after that comment. Bang on as much as you want about how he's a dud and it's hard to defend but to say he was rubbish yet again proves you have blinkers on and can't admit he had a good game
I am convinced he didn't watch the game
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Im not a fan but truth be told since he was made sub against Geelong he has been serviceable overall and deserving of his spot.. but prior to that, how he continued to get a game was perplexing to say the least. Like pettard, whilst im not a fan, they are both deserving of their place in our side as it currently stands, this time next year who knows but right now, there are players Id move before Shed and pettard.
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Got some stats to back that crap up?
Allan...
:lol
better give your sarcasm detector a tune up Bents.
thought the :whistle may have been a give away....
Sorry, got excited
Titch :bow
#1 for aboringalness too 8)
Is that you Dunc?
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Waste of space. 9 years of list clogging and listen to some of you lot, talking him up like he's the best in our team...
Unreal!!!!
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Waste of space. 9 years of list clogging and listen to some of you lot, talking him up like he's the best in our team...
Unreal!!!!
No one is talking him up, they are just being honest and saying that he had a good game on the weekend, something you either did not or will not see.
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WAT's not going to agree with the coaches votes from last week then:
Richmond v Brisbane Lions
9 Shane Edwards (Rich)
7 Tyrone Vickery (Rich)
5 Alex Rance (Rich)
3 Brandon Ellis (Rich)
2 Justin Clarke (Bris)
2 Ivan Maric (Rich)
1 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
1 Pearce Hanley (Bris)
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Nine not ten... Wot
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Quiet thread this week, must have played ok.
He was rubbish yet again, get easy gaols but he was useless, poor skills again and thrown around like a rag doll.....STILL!!!
Did you actually watch the game WAT?
Shane Edwards produced his best performance of the season, kicking two goals and recording 27 disposals (13 contested), six inside 50s, three tackles and a team-high nine clearances.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-07/edwards-reaps-rewards)
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Waste of space. 9 years of list clogging and listen to some of you lot, talking him up like he's the best in our team...
Unreal!!!!
would think he epitomizes why we are so bad as football club. He along with club greats like Grigg and Hampspud.
Carrying these type of blokes to 200 games is what we do at the RFC.
FWIW I don't think anyone is disputing he didn't play well against the Lions, which reinforces my thoughts on him as a footballer as being a downhill skier and a very average one at that
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How do you explain being top 2 or 3 or so
Over the SEASON
For clearances, goals assists, inside50s, goals etc
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I agree that since that sub he has definitely played pretty well, last week his best, handled the ball as clean as , set up a lot of play with handball through traffic and snagged a couple of goals .....Shane Edwards , very least of our problems :shh
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Given the number of games he has played he should be dominating games. He has always had great potential but he has not lived up to it. The Brisbane game is the perfect example. He showed what he can do but he does not do that on a regular enough basis. Too much is being left to too few in this club. He can win the contested ball, can handpass very well and kick freakish goals but so far he has not shown that he can lift the side when others such as Cotchin and Martin are struggling.
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Waste of space. 9 years of list clogging and listen to some of you lot, talking him up like he's the best in our team...
Unreal!!!!
would think he epitomizes why we are so bad as football club. He along with club greats like Grigg and Hampspud.
Carrying these type of blokes to 200 games is what we do at the RFC.
FWIW I don't think anyone is disputing he didn't play well against the Lions, which reinforces my thoughts on him as a footballer as being a downhill skier and a very average one at that
its amazing, he plays a decent game or even has two or three in a row, and the defenders ignore the big picture and praise the hell out of him. some people just dont learn.
reckon if people cant see things for what they are after 9 yrs they never will. recommend an ignore list
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How do you explain being top 2 or 3 or so
Over the SEASON
For clearances, goals assists, inside50s, goals etc
Actually pretty surprised by the numbers. Wouldn't have thought he'd had that much impact this year on face value.
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our best player and best hands inside traffic and congestion.... very underrated player
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The biggest negative I think with Shane is that he rarely produces a very good performance against good opposition in big games that count.
How many times have we seen him shank a kick or handball straight to the opposition which leads to a turnover goal in those sorts of games?
Kudos to him lately but his weaknesses still remain and while all players have weaknesses his are glaring and come out at the worst possible moments.
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our best player and best hands inside traffic and congestion.... very underrated player
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52280358.jpg)
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Look at him anyway you like, throw the few good games together that he has played over 9 years..WOW, champ. Keep accepting players like this, tell yourself how good he is when he puts in against a bottom side and you accept where we are at the moment....
He is a list clogging waste of space, he needs to go!!!!
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I think the issue with Shane is that he is played out of position ie. he shouldn't be in the midfield. He's a good sub to inject fresh legs in forward line or half forward flanks but Dimma trying to make him a forward to rotate as an outside midfielder is ridiculous.
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I think the issue with Shane is that he is played out of position ie. he shouldn't be in the midfield. He's a good sub to inject fresh legs in forward line or half forward flanks but Dimma trying to make him a forward to rotate as an outside midfielder is ridiculous.
Agree needs to be positioned in the VFL side
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Agree needs to be positioned in the VFL side
x2.
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Given the number of games he has played he should be dominating games. He has always had great potential but he has not lived up to it. The Brisbane game is the perfect example. He showed what he can do but he does not do that on a regular enough basis. Too much is being left to too few in this club. He can win the contested ball, can handpass very well and kick freakish goals but so far he has not shown that he can lift the side when others such as Cotchin and Martin are struggling.
hes never in his whole career had great potential.
mate hes always had glareing weaknesses in his game and those weaknesses lkiterally stop him from becoming a good consistent footballer. he has always only ever been capable of achieving good ordinary, i reckon hes failed to reach that on a consistent basis.
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edwards was the best south australian in his year behind gibbs.
unlimitied potential :shh
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edwards was the best south australian in his year behind gibbs.
unlimitied potential :shh
is that you bo. hhhhaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh
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Bog?
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Bog?
WTF!!!
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Done some important acts
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clearances are not important acts.
who cares about getting the ball in congestion and releasing a teammate into space?
its the speccy things that count, like being the one that finishes of the hard unnoticed work of others and putting the ball though the big sticks.
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Thank God he didnt kick the footy that much. :clapping
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clearances are not important acts.
who cares about getting the ball in congestion and releasing a teammate into space?
its the speccy things that count, like being the one that finishes of the hard unnoticed work of others and putting the ball though the big sticks.
Yep like those who make the highlight reels (hello Wingard)
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Ninth specialist
How many descent games he played this year?
Should have reached his quota by now..
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He is like a tabby cat a dime a dozen.
I prefer to call him a glass half empty. That glass will never fill.
Has a few qualities but plenty of limitations.
Nothing more.
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Waste of space.
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Elusive Edwards on the rise
richmondfc.com.au
July 25, 2014 12:00 PM
Deledio made special mention of Edwards’ elusiveness . . .
“That’s probably one of the reasons why we throw him into the centre bounce, because he can win it in close, get out of there, and get a clean take-away for us, rather than just a hack kick forward,” Deledio said.
“I think he’s averaged seven or eight clearances over the last few weeks, so he knows how to find it in there.
“He’s so elusive that it just opens up everyone else.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-25/elusive-edwards-on-the-rise
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Elusive Edwards on the rise
richmondfc.com.au
July 25, 2014 12:00 PM
Deledio made special mention of Edwards’ elusiveness . . .
“That’s probably one of the reasons why we throw him into the centre bounce, because he can win it in close, get out of there, and ger treet a clean take-away for us, rather than just a hack kick forward,” Deledio said.
“I think he’s averaged seven or eight clearances over the last few weeks, so he knows how to find it in there.
“He’s so elusive that it just opens up everyone else.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-25/elusive-edwards-on-the-rise
Agree, sometimes he is so elusive you don't even know he is actually playing ;)
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Is Shank Is Shyte
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He s an unpredictable type that at times can be devastating and at others plain terrible. Of late his good has outweighed the bad :clapping
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Like a duck to water in the wet
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wacko
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Assist
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dud.
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Not his biggest fan but credit where it's due. Titch's past two games have been good.
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hes been good since the geelong game in all fairness
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maybe he likes wet football. done some good things last night.
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maybe he likes wet football. done some good things last night.
Does some good things every week...just need to watch :shh
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maybe he likes wet football. done some good things last night.
Does some good things every week...just need to watch :shh
We've been watching for 8 years and the problem is he usually does twice as many crap things.
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Haven't watched the replay.
But at the game from where I was sitting high up in the stands (undercover thank god) he played really well last night. His defensive pressure was very good indeed
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maybe he likes wet football. done some good things last night.
Does some good things every week...just need to watch :shh
l watched him for 8 years & his :chuck If you reckon his some kinda footballer then scroll through his stats & tell me how many times his been in the best 3 players each game. Have fun ;D
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he is our most underrated player , the team and coaches know how important he is
he also is our best kick for goal and along with dusty our only player with flair
and for a little bloke he is as hard as
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Consistently in our top 4-8 or so players. I doubt he'll ever be in our top few players but that isn't the problem. People's expectations are. He isn't a Martin or Cotchin.
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have i said dud delist. oh sorry i did say it. this bloke revels in mediocrity.
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Worse than rance?
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he is our most underrated player , the team and coaches know how important he is
he also is our best kick for goal and along with dusty our only player with flair
and for a little bloke he is as hard as
no trolling please, we have enough of that already
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Admittedly it was against GWS but Shane went ok tonight. ;)
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Admittedly it was against GWS but Shane went ok tonight. ;)
:clapping I guess that's something from you
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He played well, he needs to produce this in the big games too. Great flick back to Dusty, well thought through, for a moment it looked too unselfish but he probably would've got smothered if he tried to kick that himself.
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I have no issue with shed if he keeps playing and contributing like he has the past 10-12 weeks. The question is will he maintain this next season and beyond?
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How about playing like that against top 4-6 sides. Consistently.
Gotta admit though loved the look away handball to Dusty for his goal. Made be chuckle. :thumbsup
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65 is my father.......
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At least some of the doubters are now starting to see the light.
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At least some of the doubters are now starting to see the light.
who did we play and who have we beaten?? i forgot remind me.
Also remind me where was he was in the opening rounds when it mattered.
the guy is a hack and when he plays a full season when it counts, il re consider my position.
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I actually think Titch is one of the ones we should consider trading.He aint going to get any better,and he still has some currency
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agreed
biggest definition of a downhill skier you will find in our whole side.
goes missing in the games that matter
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At least some of the doubters are now starting to see the light.
Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
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Master of the matrix
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Hopefully pushing up his trade value. After how many years, should be worth a third rounder now.
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First :shh
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agreed
biggest definition of a downhill skier you will find in our whole side.
goes missing in the games that matter
A bit like Lids :shh
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He s been sneaky good titch last 10 weeks m he won't be going anywhere , one of our few speedsters :shh
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for me a typical edwards season. and a typical edwards game
its funny he plays a game at an acceptable level which he does every now and then and hes a great player ppppfffftttt.yesterdays game was nothing great it is where he should be at all the time we should not be accepting anything less because anything less is mediocrity.
so this yr is typical 6 or 7 games where hes played at the required level, nothing outstanding but where he needs to be all the time. bit like this week. then theres games where he does some good things but doesnt do enough, then theres games where it is terrible.
he has never in his career shown any sort of consistency and this is because no player can play at their best all the time.
imo edwards best is passable its at a minimum you want for a bloke his age nearly 26yo and experience 140 odd games. but anything below his best sees him drop into mediocrity far too often.
at his best hes a C grader trouble is we only get his best in short bursts.
someone said he should be the one up for trade and he is right.
its funny there are people who think the list is okay and thats fine me i think them a bit deluded.then theres a group who openly say the list needs work and we have plenty to do to be a top and eventually a premiership chance. yet its this group that makes me wonder. they defend blokes who really cant take us further knowing we have to turn over players. its like they know the list needs lots of work but dont want to see players cut. i reckon the club itself is a bit like this. constanly kidding themselves.
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for me a typical edwards season. and a typical edwards game
its funny he plays a game at an acceptable level which he does every now and then and hes a great player ppppfffftttt.yesterdays game was nothing great it is where he should be at all the time we should not be accepting anything less because anything less is mediocrity.
so this yr is typical 6 or 7 games where hes played at the required level, nothing outstanding but where he needs to be all the time. bit like this week. then theres games where he does some good things but doesnt do enough, then theres games where it is terrible.
he has never in his career shown any sort of consistency and this is because no player can play at their best all the time.
imo edwards best is passable its at a minimum you want for a bloke his age nearly 26yo and experience 140 odd games. but anything below his best sees him drop into mediocrity far too often.
at his best hes a C grader trouble is we only get his best in short bursts.
someone said he should be the one up for trade and he is right.
its funny there are people who think the list is okay and thats fine me i think them a bit deluded.then theres a group who openly say the list needs work and we have plenty to do to be a top and eventually a premiership chance. yet its this group that makes me wonder. they defend blokes who really cant take us further knowing we have to turn over players. its like they know the list needs lots of work but dont want to see players cut. i reckon the club itself is a bit like this. constanly kidding themselves.
Agree with this. :thumbsup
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At least some of the doubters are now starting to see the light.
No way 8 years in the system with the odd bit of brilliance hardly enough.
Never done that sort of stuff against the elite teams or those that seem to beat us all the time ie,
Hawthorn, Sydney, Collingwood, Geelong.
A bit hollow when his best isagainst Brisbane and GWS.
He is less than a glass half full.
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He is the glass and a half out of half a litre and has Julius Sumner Millers endorsement. It's just that not many people know how many mls it takes to make it
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
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agreed
biggest definition of a downhill skier you will find in our whole side.
goes missing in the games that matter
A bit like Lids :shh
Kind of although I think half lids issue is our coach and what he does with him
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
Not in exact words, but you lay the boots into Dusty at every opportunity you get and have made no secret you think we must trade him, yet you laud Edwards re-signing..
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
He's actually not.. 10 consistent weeks of footy this season and 1 solid season a few years back is the only reasonable footy he's played, the rest has been rubbish.
At least these 'pencil dicks' give credit where its due, unlike some pinheads that won't.
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He's actually not..
Ok PD.
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He's actually not..
Ok PD.
moron
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
his game on the wekend how do you rate it. brilluiant, very good acceptable sub par. tto me this is one of his better games and it was acceptable. as i said his best is good solid citizen. unfortunately he drops way below this for big chunks of every season. think about it magic we have a 26yo or close to it nearly 150 game player and we are still talking about basic s with him.
you know what at 26 he should be a leader both on fiels and off. he should be at a good consistent reliable level. he doesnt have to be an a grader. like houli like grigg like a few others we must do better. is he the worst player on the list??? no, but is that really a good excuse to retain him for so long.
you know you mat say people are just picking on him but when so many so constantly criticse him do think theres nothing to it but people picking.
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
his game on the wekend how do you rate it. brilluiant, very good acceptable sub par. tto me this is one of his better games and it was acceptable. as i said his best is good solid citizen. unfortunately he drops way below this for big chunks of every season. think about it magic we have a 26yo or close to it nearly 150 game player and we are still talking about basic s with him.
you know what at 26 he should be a leader both on fiels and off. he should be at a good consistent reliable level. he doesnt have to be an a grader. like houli like grigg like a few others we must do better. is he the worst player on the list??? no, but is that really a good excuse to retain him for so long.
you know you mat say people are just picking on him but when so many so constantly criticse him do think theres nothing to it but people picking.
These type of players are generally inconsistent for most clubs unless they are genuine A grade star. And there isn't many in the game. It's a tough gig to play half forward/pocket. And even tougher playing that roll in our side with the way we have moved the footy.
You are harsh on Edwards IMO but that's your opinion. He is no star but he does play some pretty good footy. IMO he would be picked from 10 to 13 in our side. Heaps of other duds to go before him.
How's about we start at the bottom and work our way up?
If we traded him I wouldn't loose 1 minute of sleep but he would have to be worth a second rounder.
He is better than you give him credit for.
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
his game on the wekend how do you rate it. brilluiant, very good acceptable sub par. tto me this is one of his better games and it was acceptable. as i said his best is good solid citizen. unfortunately he drops way below this for big chunks of every season. think about it magic we have a 26yo or close to it nearly 150 game player and we are still talking about basic s with him.
you know what at 26 he should be a leader both on fiels and off. he should be at a good consistent reliable level. he doesnt have to be an a grader. like houli like grigg like a few others we must do better. is he the worst player on the list??? no, but is that really a good excuse to retain him for so long.
you know you mat say people are just picking on him but when so many so constantly criticse him do think theres nothing to it but people picking.
Claw I honestly think his game was pretty good and he was one of our best. Some may see it differently.
Think he's starting to show some good form in a midfield role over the past couple of months and is having a real impact on our resurgence.
Believe he is very happy to be playing this genuine mid role as he was starving on a forward flank earlier in the season when the whole team was struggling, particularly out of the middle.
His much maligned foot skills this season are just about the best I have ever seen it.
Particularly for goal. Without fanfare has kicked a whole heap this year without missing.
I think he's still got improvement left in him too. Particularly as he's now spending regular time on the ball. Strong enough now to no longer be getting pushed aside easily and improving his endurance with every passing pre season.
Shane's one of our few who can make stuff happen from not much. Call it X Factor if you like.
Dusty is another but we don't have too many of them.
It's one of the reasons we have to be tolerant of their mistakes because they're looking to create rather than just paint by numbers.
As for any comparisons Dusty's a far better attacking player but Shane would cover a lot for him defensively too.
To the chagrin of a few he won't be traded anywhere.
He's well liked off field, is rated for what he does on field by his peers and was happy to sign with the club for 2 years a few weeks back.
I honestly think Shane gets a raw deal by a lot of Tiger fans. Many still look at him through dark glasses from a few years back and are stubborn with their view of him. That can be hard to shake and often they fail to see the good he does.
If we can upgrade him in time great but he's well entrenched in our current best 22 these days and I expect will be for some time yet.
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
his game on the wekend how do you rate it. brilluiant, very good acceptable sub par. tto me this is one of his better games and it was acceptable. as i said his best is good solid citizen. unfortunately he drops way below this for big chunks of every season. think about it magic we have a 26yo or close to it nearly 150 game player and we are still talking about basic s with him.
you know what at 26 he should be a leader both on fiels and off. he should be at a good consistent reliable level. he doesnt have to be an a grader. like houli like grigg like a few others we must do better. is he the worst player on the list??? no, but is that really a good excuse to retain him for so long.
you know you mat say people are just picking on him but when so many so constantly criticse him do think theres nothing to it but people picking.
These type of players are generally inconsistent for most clubs unless they are genuine A grade star. And there isn't many in the game. It's a tough gig to play half forward/pocket. And even tougher playing that roll in our side with the way we have moved the footy.
You are harsh on Edwards IMO but that's your opinion. He is no star but he does play some pretty good footy. IMO he would be picked from 10 to 13 in our side. Heaps of other duds to go before him.
How's about we start at the bottom and work our way up?
If we traded him I wouldn't loose 1 minute of sleep but he would have to be worth a second rounder.
He is better than you give him credit for.
yeah well on this one tone we are gunna disagree.
he hasnt played much as a fwd the last 2 seasons. so on thayt i dis agree. i have 5 levels for players and for me edwards is in the bottom 2 levels. players a re called good solid citizens because while not worl beaters they perform consistently at a good standard. edwards has periods where he plays at the level then invariably it all drops away. good players are not inconsistent borderline players are.
anyway we disagree seems im banging heads with everyone lately. seems this happens more when we win than when we lose.
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Is that the same light you see regarding titch being a superior player to dusty? :help
I've never said that. Nor have I ever said Shane is a great player.
However he's a heck of a lot better than some pencil dicks here painted him as. 8)
his game on the wekend how do you rate it. brilluiant, very good acceptable sub par. tto me this is one of his better games and it was acceptable. as i said his best is good solid citizen. unfortunately he drops way below this for big chunks of every season. think about it magic we have a 26yo or close to it nearly 150 game player and we are still talking about basic s with him.
you know what at 26 he should be a leader both on fiels and off. he should be at a good consistent reliable level. he doesnt have to be an a grader. like houli like grigg like a few others we must do better. is he the worst player on the list??? no, but is that really a good excuse to retain him for so long.
you know you mat say people are just picking on him but when so many so constantly criticse him do think theres nothing to it but people picking.
Claw I honestly think his game was pretty good and he was one of our best. Some may see it differently.
Think he's starting to show some good form in a midfield role over the past couple of months and is having a real impact on our resurgence.
Believe he is very happy to be playing this genuine mid role as he was starving on a forward flank earlier in the season when the whole team was struggling, particularly out of the middle.
His much maligned foot skills this season are just about the best I have ever seen it.
Particularly for goal. Without fanfare has kicked a whole heap this year without missing.
I think he's still got improvement left in him too. Particularly as he's now spending regular time on the ball. Strong enough now to no longer be getting pushed aside easily and improving his endurance with every passing pre season.
Shane's one of our few who can make stuff happen from not much. Call it X Factor if you like.
Dusty is another but we don't have too many of them.
It's one of the reasons we have to be tolerant of their mistakes because they're looking to create rather than just paint by numbers.
As for any comparisons Dusty's a far better attacking player but Shane would cover a lot for him defensively too.
To the chagrin of a few he won't be traded anywhere.
He's well liked off field, is rated for what he does on field by his peers and was happy to sign with the club for 2 years a few weeks back.
I honestly think Shane gets a raw deal by a lot of Tiger fans. Many still look at him through dark glasses from a few years back and are stubborn with their view of him. That can be hard to shake and often they fail to see the good he does.
If we can upgrade him in time great but he's well entrenched in our current best 22 these days and I expect will be for some time yet.
magic on this one you have my respect in the sense you stick to your guns even when hes been poor which over the course has been most of the time, my opinion . we disagree but well done sir in staying constant and backing in what you believe. in saying that imo hes still ordinary ;D
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magic on this one you have my respect in the sense you stick to your guns even when hes been poor which over the course has been most of the time, my opinion . we disagree but well done sir in staying constant and backing in what you believe. in saying that imo hes still ordinary ;D
Thanks..I think. ;D
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I honestly think Shane gets a raw deal by a lot of Tiger fans. Many still look at him through dark glasses from a few years back and are stubborn with their view of him. That can be hard to shake and often they fail to see the good he does.
Maybe we can get a few experts to comment here, where is WAT by the way?
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Maybe we can get a few experts to comment here, where is WAT by the way?
Expert and WAT in the same sentence. :help
surely said in jest??? :cheers
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Credit where it's due. Titch was in our best 4-5 players last night. Kicked 2 goals himself and assisted in a couple of others was smart play.
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Yes he played very well. I was worried in the 2nd & 3rd qtr as he went missing, he was then slammed and pinged for holding the ball and some of his field kicks let him down. But in the end he did some very good things and was a major contributor to the win.
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He is such a good player, hands in close are the best we have. Makes something happen when he is around the ball, constantly moving through congestion :clapping
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
What was he thinking trying to get through that. Dempsey was standing on the spot. It was like watching WWE. That was brutal, funny and I thought to myself at the time "momentum killing".
Pretty much sums him up but I'll say this much, his last quarter was the best quarter of footy he has ever played for the club. 2 goals and countless stats with a few tackles.
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
What was he thinking trying to get through that. Dempsey was standing on the spot. It was like watching WWE. That was brutal, funny and I thought to myself at the time "momentum killing".
Pretty much sums him up but I'll say this much, his last quarter was the best quarter of footy he has ever played for the club. 2 goals and countless stats with a few tackles.
l agree Don. His last 1/4 was good. a great team effort
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
It was a poor handball too him.
Had little option bar what he did
He was wide with a paddock in front of him if the pass got to him
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Credit where it's due. Titch was in our best 4-5 players last night. Kicked 2 goals himself and assisted in a couple of others was smart play.
He's having a great year. :)
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
Reckon that was one of the best tackles I've seen in a long long time
Remember when tackles like Dempsey's were the norm not the exception
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
It was a poor handball too him.
Had little option bar what he did
He was wide with a paddock in front of him if the pass got to him
are you serious. He had plenty of other options but took the bully route & got nailed by a steroid ;D
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Perfect example of this player came last night. After building his body for 8 years he got stopped & slammed like a little boy & he had all the momentum it was classic. :lol He done his normal few things but his opponent does as he pleases ;D
It was a poor handball too him.
Had little option bar what he did
He was wide with a paddock in front of him if the pass got to him
are you serious. He had plenty of other options but took the bully route & got nailed by a steroid ;D
Exactly, had Floss and two others more open with the chance to use the paddock in front of them to get it to Dusty if he was quick enough and he chose the traffic path. It's decisions like that the don't endear him to many. Especially late in a quarter with the game being played on our terms at that stage. Lucky it didn't cost us and he had a great last quarter to make up for it.
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Career best form , no doubt , great job by the development team......again :clapping
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Edwards is a very good player so lets embrace him :thumbsup
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Fair enough by if the ball to him was less poor, hed of gone no where near Dempsey
Overall excellent game... Again
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That's alright boys, lets not be overly critical for the sake of being overly critical. For that one instance where he was caught, he sidestepped and spun out of trouble into space beautifully 4-5 times. Players who have that ability , you want to have a crack and if they get caught occasionally so be it.
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Would be a better Dyer medalist than Jackson.
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Would be a better Dyer medalist than Jackson.
Just by a bees dick
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Another fantastic game by Shane. :cheers :cheers :cheers
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Another fantastic game by Shane. :cheers :cheers :cheers
He's been our X-Factor this year especially with Jack being blanketed and out of form :clapping
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Was very good again
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That tackle in the last quarter on the boundary line on the wing was top notch. :thumbsup
Had two great last quarters two weeks in a row. :thumbsup
Mr Magic has doubled his posts on this site in the last 8 days. :lol :rollin :lol
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Excellent game. Hopefully this is the norm.
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Vital cog in the machine now
If he was to cop a injury it'd be a significant loss to the side
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Where is the eternal pessimist claw? :whistle
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Where is the eternal pessimist claw? :whistle
Where is WAT?
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what a rollercoaster ride this football club give us....Claw and friends were right to stick the boots in earlier .as the rest were in saying things will turn for the better....As for me it proves that in essence my opinions aren't worth jack..lol
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last few weeks have actually been his best ever
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last few weeks have actually been his best ever
He doesn't fumble. Would be nice if he could put it together for a whole year like this. Get it done Sheds. :clapping
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Critically important player!
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He actually rag dolled a Crows player
Doing very well is Shed
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Yep going along nicely is Shane. :thumbsup
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Excellent game. Hopefully this is the norm.
It has been the norm so some time. He has the best hands in close and his work around the stoppages is elite.
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Has had an good 10 weeks that can't be disputed
Time to trade
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one of the fox footy commentators said last night his a excellent player. He has been doing some good things but some commentators are dicks
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Could win the Brownlow.
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Could win the Brownlow.
He would not even get close in the Morrish ;D
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Could win the Brownlow.
He would not even get close in the Morrish ;D
Would murder it
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Shane Edwards automatically qualifies for life membership of the Club, when he reaches the 150-game milestone in this Sunday’s twilight clash with St Kilda at the MCG.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-19/edwards-a-tiger-for-life#sthash.0f6HiS6P.dpuf
Career stats:
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=2014&Sort=SeasonID%20Desc#career
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Has had an good 10 weeks that can't be disputed
Time to trade
Yep value will never be higher - sell! sell! sell!
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Well done Shane. Tiger for Life.
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Well done Shane. Tiger for Life.
Unless we get a good offer :shh
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Could win the Brownlow.
Unfortunately will be tough with lids cotchin etc taking votes
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Congratulations to Shane Edwards on 150 games and acheiving life membership with the Richmond Football Club.
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VIDEO: 150 for Edwards ....
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-20/150-for-edwards
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Could win the Brownlow.
Unfortunately will be tough with lids cotchin etc taking votes
It will be tough for more reasons than that! :lol
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Unless we get a good offer :shh
Nope. Gets life membership from here on no matter what happens in the future.
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Unless we get a good offer :shh
Nope. Gets life membership from here on no matter what happens in the future.
Oh well maybe we could still trade him and he works on getting dual life membership
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Has had an good 10 weeks that can't be disputed
Time to trade
Yep value will never be higher - sell! sell! sell!
harrgghhh aint that the truth. unfortunately hes contracted for god knows how many yrs 2 more i think.
i can say with certainty those praising him up now will be lamenting yet another form slump and shocking run down the track. its what these blokes do.
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Is it not better to trade players when they are in contract
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Is it not better to trade players when they are in contract
They do not have to agree to anything then….
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Absolute rubbish.
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Absolute rubbish.
yes it is the very fact this bloke has played 150 games is rubbish. only at richmond.
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He's a good player you top bloke claw
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i can say with certainty those praising him up now will be lamenting yet another form slump and shocking run down the track. its what these blokes do.
I can say with certainty that you'll be waiting with baited breath for when he inevitably puts in a poor game to poobag him and say I told yas so...blah blah. It's what you do.
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Dimma on Shane Edwards this morning at his Presser
"Hardwick described forward Shane Edwards, who plays his 150th AFL game, as a “special” player whose role and skill are underestimated by outsiders.
“He has been outstanding. He’s a guy who has improved every year since I got here ... a lot of people don’t realise that he’s an incredible talent, he does things that only a few people can.
“The ability for him to get in and out of traffic and create goals for others is outstanding. He’s an outstanding player and we’re very fortunate to have him.”
From: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-says-healthier-list-key-to-form-revival-reece-conca-and-dan-jackson-in-line-for-recalls/story-fndv8t7m-1227031760657
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I was referring to the Life Membership.
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Dimma on Shane Edwards this morning at his Presser
"Hardwick described forward Shane Edwards, who plays his 150th AFL game, as a “special” player whose role and skill are underestimated by outsiders.
“He has been outstanding. He’s a guy who has improved every year since I got here ... a lot of people don’t realise that he’s an incredible talent, he does things that only a few people can.
“The ability for him to get in and out of traffic and create goals for others is outstanding. He’s an outstanding player and we’re very fortunate to have him.”
From: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-says-healthier-list-key-to-form-revival-reece-conca-and-dan-jackson-in-line-for-recalls/story-fndv8t7m-1227031760657
: :shh
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Ok, well done Shane... :thumbsup
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Actually haven't seen him shank one in quite a while
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Actually haven't seen him shank one in quite a while
He did against the Crows, but it went through for a goal.. :whistle
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Shy South Australian Shane Edwards reaches 150-game milestone at Tigers
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
August 24, 2014
SHANE Edwards' journey to 150 AFL games started when he was a shy South Australian kid who was too scared to play football.
Today, he’s a Richmond player coach Damien Hardwick has labelled as "an incredible talent". In fact, Hardwick says Edwards has improved every year he's coached him.
Edwards has been a key part of the Tigers' late-season resurgence with his forward line pressure and ability to contribute on the scoreboard.
When he plays his 150th game Sunday afternoon against St Kilda in front of his father Greg and mother Tara, it will be a good opportunity for the Edwards family to reflect on his path to Tigerland.
The path began in the Adelaide suburb of Golden Grove, where Edwards was more interested in basketball than football until his best mate joined the local club.
Jealousy of what his friend was doing led to Edwards playing the following year.
He went from the Golden Grove Kookaburras to SANFL club North Adelaide, which recruited him when he was playing under-13s and essentially pulled off a coup when Central District got his age wrong and failed to secure him under the father-son rule.
From there, it was to Richmond via the 2006 NAB AFL Draft, which Edwards still recalls as being a total shock.
With a family possessing rich SANFL history, Edwards never dreamed he would play in the national competition and was content to follow in the footsteps of his father, uncle and grandfather.
But he ended up at Richmond where he's not only grown as a footballer but also a person, with the recent public acknowledgment of his Indigenous heritage a huge part of his journey.
"[Talking about it] threw me in the deep end a bit because I still consider myself to be shy but I feel like I've got a lot of responsibility now," Edwards told the AFL Record.
"I've no doubt it's helped with everything in my life. It's made me more proud of what I'm doing."
Read the full story in the round 22 edition of the AFL Record, which is available at all grounds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-24/edwards-journey-to-150
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Shane Edwards - Leading a Tiger Revival
Jennifer Phelan
AFL Record, Round 22
August 22-24, 2014
He is a tenacious Tiger who has quietly slipped under the radar on his way to 150 games. But Shane Edwards is embracing his role as one of Richmond's more experienced players.
Playing in the AFL wasn’t something that occurred to Shane Edwards as a kid.
So much so, when he was drafted by Richmond in 2006, he had been to only one AFL game.
As a youngster growing up in the Adelaide suburb of Golden Grove, Edwards had more interest in basketball and wasn’t drawn towards football until he was eight.
Even then, it took some persuading for the lightly framed youngster to branch out of lunchtime school footy.
“I was just too scared to go and actually play for a team,” Edwards told the AFL Record this week, on the eve of his 150th AFL game.
“Then, my best mate across the road signed up for a team and I got pretty jealous.
“Mum would say, ‘Why don’t you go out and have a kick?’ and the next year I said, ‘Well, OK, I will then’. I just went out and played.”
That was for the Golden Grove Kookaburras, where he stayed until he joined North Adelaide as a teenager.
Edwards’ rich family link to the SANFL meant playing at senior level in the state league was his obvious goal.
His father Greg played 43 games for Central District – and was the first player from the club to kick 100 goals in a season (1982) before an injury left him blind in his left eye and forced his retirement at 20.
Greg is the CEO of North Adelaide, where Edwards’ 22-year-old brother Kym plays. Edwards’ grandfather Doug played for North Adelaide and West Torrens (before the 1990 merge with Woodville) and his uncle Russell for Port Adelaide before it entered the AFL.
So, it wasn’t surprising Edwards turned his sights on following in their footsteps once he started playing.
He’s not sure of the exact circumstances that led him to the Roosters, given his father’s links to Centrals. The family lived in the North Adelaide zone and the club sent Edwards a letter when he was playing under-13s.
He thinks it may have been an administrative error that led him to missing out on a father-son berth at the Bulldogs.
“I think Centrals got my age wrong,” he said.
“I think they thought I was the year below so I went up to North and made a few mates and then I wanted to stay there.”
It was at the Roosters he impressed on the wing, and then at the draft camp, where his fitness stood out.
He was picked by Richmond at No. 26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and, although he was on the radar of a couple of AFL clubs, he had spoken to only the Tigers.
Relocating to Melbourne proved a big step. He moved in with then Richmond captain Kane Johnson, who became a significant mentor, but pined for his hometown.
He missed his father, mother Tara and brother and his mates, despite being thrilled with making his senior debut for Richmond in round four of his first season.
He loved Melbourne life, but went home every chance he got. If the Tigers played on a Friday night, he’d fly to Adelaide on Saturday morning and return Sunday night.
“It took a bit to settle in and realise that Melbourne was my home and would be for as long as I could make it,” he said.
"I was going back and forth to Adelaide as much as I could and there was really no point in taking my clothes out of the suitcase.”
But he found his feet. He lived with a host family for a period before spending a year with then Tiger Will Thursfield, and then it was back to Johnson’s place.
On the field, Edwards has played a variety of roles from half-back to half-forward, with stints through the midfield.
While the change in responsibilities has made it hard for fans to decide where his best position is, he believes it’s made him a better player – especially after spending half of 2009 playing on forwards.
“That was a pretty valuable experience,” he said.
“It was important, learning what makes them so hard to play on. I can make sure I do that now.
“Sometimes, when you get in a form slump, you think that could be the reason – because you’re getting moved around, you can’t get settled and get used to a position.
“But it’s much better looking at it as a positive; the fact you can influence the game in different areas.”
That influence isn’t lost on his teammates. Dan Jackson recently said when Edwards plays well, the team usually does too.
“He’s a silent assassin in a way. Internally we know the value he brings to our side; maybe not necessarily to the outside world, but he’s one of the most loved guys at our club, the boys just love playing with him, they express that all the time,” Jackson said.
“The way he uses the ball under pressure and in traffic is up there with the best in the competition.”
Finding his voice has been another important part of Edwards’ development. He confessed to being shy – even today at 25 – but has made it a focus to become more vocal.
He said the biggest difference from the draftee who couldn’t cook or use household appliances to the person he is today is how he sees himself at Richmond.
It’s something that’s changed dramatically for him in the past two years as he’s neared his latest milestone.
“I always felt like one of the least experienced players and that the young guys would rather hear from the guys who have more experience,” he said.
“Now I sort of think I’m actually pretty experienced. If I’ve got something to say, I should definitely say it because I’ve done something well to actually get here.
“I’ve been speaking up more in the last few years and backing myself in what I think and how I look at what sort of player I am and not trying to be another player – just trying to be the player I am.”
PROUD HERITAGE
Recognising and celebrating his indigenous heritage is something Edwards believes has helped him come out of his shell.
He is the only indigenous player on Richmond’s list and is called on each season for media requests leading into the club’s Dreamtime at the ’G clash with Essendon.
It’s only in the past few years the AFL world became aware of Edwards’ heritage, which is something he’s always been proud of but his quiet nature meant he didn’t broadcast it.
Since, he has talked openly about his maternal great-grandmother being part of the Stolen Generation that hailed from the Arrernte tribe in central Australia.
He has visited Santa Teresa, a community an hour out of Alice Springs where he can trace his relatives to for what he called “the biggest moment of my life”.
It has all done wonders for Edwards. He is proud of his background, is honoured his teammates want to know more about it and loves feeling special every Dreamtime game.
“It’s definitely helped me as a player – and as a person,” Edwards said.
“(Talking about it) threw me in the deep end a bit because I still consider myself to be shy, but I feel like I’ve got a lot of responsibility now.
“I’ve no doubt it’s helped with everything in my life. It’s made me more proud of what I’m doing.”
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He is a tenacious Tiger who has quietly slipped under the radae on his way to 150 games. But Shane Edwards is embracing his role as one of Richmond's more experienced players.
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I have been a bit harsh on him over the years. He has done well to make 150 and he is playing some of his best footy this year. well done
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I know he missed that goal in the last but he was stuffing sensational in the last half.
A gun.
He is now giving us the value we need from him to justify some of the turnovers.
Kids arrived. Finally. ;D
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Best game ive ever seen him play
credit where its due, is becoming a damaging player
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His hands are sex
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Best game ive ever seen him play
credit where its due, is becoming a damaging player
agree his come out of his egg shell ;D maybe he was still suffering long term Leatherskin Wallace disease.
Someone has put a rocket up his clacker ;D
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has improved and played really well tonight.
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Claw says delist.....
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Huddo "did he throw it"
No he didn't u bastard
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Huddo "did he throw it"
No he didn't u bastard
Judge on fire! :lol
:gotigers
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shane edwards... all is forgiven!
officially a champ in my eyes as of today
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Stood up when we needed it, very clean and quick hands in traffic, probably needs to hit the scoreboard a bit more regularly but otherwise an important part of the team
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You're welcome!
Gun.
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The penny dropped when he ws made sub at the geelong game - never looked back - last 4 weeks gone to another level again
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on ya shane
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Huge last month. :thumbsup
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Has become a seriously slick player. Influential and stands up when the heat is on.
Proved me wrong. Apology owed.
On ya champ.
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This guy has stepped up BIG TIME :clapping
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Awesome game. Let's see how he goes next year
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edwards is highly regarded inside punt rd, they know how good he is.. he is our cleanest and most skillful player in congestion and has the fastest hands and reflexes in our team..
jet
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I love a couple of wins ;D
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Settle, settle, God... :help
Yes he has had a couple of good months but he still has brain fades and his kicking could improve...
Lets not overrate him just yet, as I said he has had a couple of good months in 8 years..please...
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This thread is the best Groundhog Day one going around
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Awesome game. Let's see how he goes next year
wouldnt say awesome game at all. had a very good second half which quite frankly is about where he needs to play every week.
i thought he arrived in 2012 well if i listened to supporters he had. reckon he played 10 or 12 good games in a row in 2012, but since then its taken until about rnd 15 this yr for him to string good games together again. and even then his good games produce barely enough imo.
ive seen the purple patches before and reckon he wont sustain the standard, very relevant comment imo lets see how he goes next yr. i for one certainly wont be jumping on any band wagon based on a few good games, where lets be totally honest for a player his age with his experience and role he should be at week in week out yr in yr out.
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Awesome game. Let's see how he goes next year
wouldnt say awesome game at all. had a very good second half which quite frankly is about where he needs to play every week.
i thought he arrived in 2012 well if i listened to supporters he had. reckon he played 10 or 12 good games in a row in 2012, but since then its taken until about rnd 15 this yr for him to string good games together again. and even then his good games produce barely enough imo.
ive seen the purple patches before and reckon he wont sustain the standard, very relevant comment imo lets see how he goes next yr. i for one certainly wont be jumping on any band wagon based on a few good games, where lets be totally honest for a player his age with his experience and role he should be at week in week out yr in yr out.
:thumbsup :clapping
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Awesome game. Let's see how he goes next year
wouldnt say awesome game at all. had a very good second half which quite frankly is about where he needs to play every week.
i thought he arrived in 2012 well if i listened to supporters he had. reckon he played 10 or 12 good games in a row in 2012, but since then its taken until about rnd 15 this yr for him to string good games together again. and even then his good games produce barely enough imo.
ive seen the purple patches before and reckon he wont sustain the standard, very relevant comment imo lets see how he goes next yr. i for one certainly wont be jumping on any band wagon based on a few good games, where lets be totally honest for a player his age with his experience and role he should be at week in week out yr in yr out.
I'd say awesome game because he had a pretty good first half with his use in close but turned it up another notch in the second half but that's just my opinion. I agree on the purple patches hence why I said let's see how he goes next year. Seems every year this bloke goes from a bottom tradeable player to an outstanding one who "has turned the corner".
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Snip! Stick to the topic, ppl!
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Snip! Stick to the topic, ppl!
Aww I'm guessing it was directed at me and I missed it
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Blinkers blinkers everywhere. 8)
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Former Rooster Shane Edwards flies under the radar with Richmond
Kym Morgan
Adelaide Advertiser
September 05, 2014
GREG Edwards reckons son Shane is the most invisible 150-game player in the AFL, and that’s the way both of them like it.
The Tigers small forward has typically flown under the radar during Richmond’s staggering revival over the past nine weeks, but his impact hasn’t been lost on his coach Damian Hardwick.
Nor will it be ignored by Power coach Ken Hinkley as he plots how to stop the Tigers at Adelaide Oval this Sunday.
Playing the difficult small forward role, former North Adelaide player Edwards has averaged 21 possessions, one goal and 3.5 tackles a match since round 14.
He again proved his underrated value when he racked up 25 disposals pinch hitting in the midfield during the Tigers pulsating win over the Swans last week.
“I always tell him, I reckon he’s the most invisible player in the competition for the amount of games he’s played,’’ Edwards senior says.
“And he always says he hopes that never changes because that’s the way he likes it.
“There’s still a lot of people that wouldn’t even know who he is after 150 games and he’d love that.”
Greg, now the chief executive at North Adelaide, was a star in his own right.
In 1982, he became the youngest ever SANFL player to kick 100 goals in a season, when he bagged 104 majors for Central District as a 19-year-old.
His career was tragically cut short after he suffered a serious eye injury in a trial match against Glenelg the following year.
Edwards senior has been a quiet, but admiring, observer as Shane has gone from a 65kg teenage draftee to an important role player at Richmond, and attributed his son’s transformation to hard work.
“I’m just proud of him,’’ Greg says.
“He was always a pretty skinny and small junior.
“He was never the best junior in his team but he did all the little things really well and he worked hard.”
Complementing Edwards’ hard work is a freakish ability and a flair which prompted Hardwick to recently label the forward “an incredible talent”, and admire Edwards’ season-on-season improvement.
Edwards senior has a small link to Alberton, where he was the chief executive for the Magpies for a short time.
But there is no question where his loyalties lie this Sunday.
He, wife Tara, and his other son, Kym, will be at Adelaide Oval supporting the Tigers.
“I was actually a Geelong support up until 2007 when Shane joined,’’ Edwards says.
“I switched that year and Geelong one it first premiership in more than 40 years and they’ve won another two since.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/former-rooster-shane-edwards-flies-under-the-radar-with-richmond/story-fndv8t7m-1227048113302
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“I switched that year and Geelong one it first premiership in more than 40 years and they’ve won another two since.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/former-rooster-shane-edwards-flies-under-the-radar-with-richmond/story-fndv8t7m-1227048113302
it wont be long and ours will be coming :shh
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"One it first"
:lol
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"One it first"
:lol
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To be fair, he was a Geelong support.....
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"One it first"
:lol
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To be fair, he was a Geelong support.....
To be even fairer, it was most likely the dumbass who wrote the article, not Shane's dad that made the error!
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"One it first"
:lol
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To be fair, he was a Geelong support.....
To be even fairer, it was most likely the dumbass who wrote the article, not Shane's dad that made the error!
I realise that but thanks for creating an account just to tell me anyway....
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"One it first"
:lol
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Is that you Mr. Edwards?
To be fair, he was a Geelong support.....
To be even fairer, it was most likely the dumbass who wrote the article, not Shane's dad that made the error!
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Titch is elite and the most improved at Richmond according to Champion Data ...
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Inquirer_Round-Finals-Wk1.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-05/the-inquirer-cream-awards-night
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"Elite" please, that word is used very loosely in that context!!!
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"One it first"
:lol
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To be fair, he was a Geelong support.....
To be even fairer, it was most likely the dumbass who wrote the article, not Shane's dad that made the error!
To be even even fairer
WELCOME!
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So how do we think our "elite" player went today, when the "elite" should stand up??
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So how do we think our "elite" player went today, when the "elite" should stand up??
poor WAT
Don't single him out. He had plenty of mates
So if you're going to whack him suggest you go to a number of other threads and do the same to all the others who didn't show up
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So how do we think our "elite" player went today, when the "elite" should stand up??
poor WAT
Don't single him out. He had plenty of mates
So if you're going to whack him suggest you go to a number of other threads and do the same to all the others who didn't show up
Yeah I know mate, god, what a day. I actually think he played better than most but he is clearly not at the level his stats indicate, that's what I was aiming my post at more so... :-\
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I thought he was poor but I thought most of them were with half a dozen being nothing but shocking
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I thought he was poor but I thought most of them were with half a dozen being nothing but shocking
Yeah agree, they really just didn't come to play...I think fatigue has a lot to do with it to. After doing what they did for 9 weeks and the wins they achieved they just looked a bit burned out.
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So how do we think our "elite" player went today, when the "elite" should stand up??
poor WAT
Don't single him out. He had plenty of mates
So if you're going to whack him suggest you go to a number of other threads and do the same to all the others who didn't show up
Reckon the majority of the team lay down and gave up before we started.
Agree with WP cant single titch out
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At least sedwards had the pace and guile to chase and at least get close to the port player in possession and put on some kind of pressure to disrupte the chains
Unlike the white plodders that jogged 15 Meyers behind
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Extremely poor form to single one player out on that performance
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At least sedwards had the pace and guile to chase and at least get close to the port player in possession and put on some kind of pressure to disrupte the chains
Unlike the white plodders that jogged 15 Meyers behind
Agree. His disposal was okay as well. Thought he tried. Not the worst player on the field.
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Trade whilst his value is highest. Same goes for Conca.
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Edwards never called himself elite. Some peanut at a newspaper did.
He's just an honest B grade footballer...
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I thought he was poor but I thought most of them were with half a dozen being nothing but shocking
Yeah agree, they really just didn't come to play...I think fatigue has a lot to do with it to. After doing what they did for 9 weeks and the wins they achieved they just looked a bit burned out.
For once WAT i agree with you 100%
You have nailed it precisely. I half expected this to happen, whether it was this week or next, or whenever. somewhere the hard grind of the past 2 months was going to catch up with us.
There was an article published (earlier in the year i think) that highlighted how teams performed poorly the week after travel.
This year we have been very flat each game after travelling, but have been lucky to come up against bottom sides, which obviously doesnt happen in finals.
After that hard slog in the wet against sydney and a run of 9 straight wins, i didnt build my hopes up with high expextations.
dissapointed? yes, but not surprised, nor devastated.
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I thought he was poor but I thought most of them were with half a dozen being nothing but shocking
Yeah agree, they really just didn't come to play...I think fatigue has a lot to do with it to. After doing what they did for 9 weeks and the wins they achieved they just looked a bit burned out.
For once WAT i agree with you 100%
You have nailed it precisely. I half expected this to happen, whether it was this week or next, or whenever. somewhere the hard grind of the past 2 months was going to catch up with us.
There was an article published (earlier in the year i think) that highlighted how teams performed poorly the week after travel.
This year we have been very flat each game after travelling, but have been lucky to come up against bottom sides, which obviously doesnt happen in finals.
After that hard slog in the wet against sydney and a run of 9 straight wins, i didnt build my hopes up with high expextations.
dissapointed? yes, but not surprised, nor devastated.
Where is al and what have you done with him... ;D
Yep I was exactly the same going into this game and I wasn't surprised at the loss or the margin either. Likewise I didn't build myself up either.
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Port travelled to Perth and played a close, finals-like game against Freo the week before.
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rnd 1 Richmond travelled - following week fell over the line in a game reminiscent of a game held in a special school yard.
rnd 5 travelled - following week were totally flat a bereft of run. worst game of the season (up till then) and smashed by a side we had a good record against in recent times.
rnd 10 travelled- the following week played our worst game in 3-4 years. were flattered by the scoreboard in what as a sickening display that bought back memories of the capitulations under Wallace.
rnd 18 travelled- the following week fell over the line against a bottom side who were on the road themselves. another very flat performance.
rnd 21 travelled = the following week did the bare minimum against a bottom side. showed glimpses at times during the game, but overall another flat performance.
rnd 23 travelled- following week...well no need to expedite on that, but you could see early on they were very flat.
see the pattern?
also that article i mention, didnt say that teams that travelled lost the following week each time or were always poor, just that there was a trend towards it.
Port had their flat spot during the middle of season and were building momentum heading towards the finals, probably playing better footy than at the start.
we played pox at the start and were on a record winning streak. winning streaks nearly always come to an end and fatigue was always going to be a factor somewhere along the line, and history shows when it happens in finals it generally isn't pretty.
there was no way i was getting my hopes up. i was hoping the fall would a bit later and be not so spectacular, for want of a better word, but i was expecting it.
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Trade Shane Edwards!
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Agree he would look good in hoops, or in black white and teal, or black and white or in poo and wee.
Do you think we could get a late second rounder for him?
Crows have we got a player for you!
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You know what as much as I think 70% of his games have been rubbish I wouldn't trade until FJ is out the door. Think about it we will get a late second rounder for him and FJ will find us some other hack to replace this one
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2nd most contested possessions of any Tiger this season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-11/deledio-tops-tiger-stats-charts
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I suppose some people just dont think contested possessions or clearances are that important.
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I suppose some people just dont think contested possessions or clearances are that important.
or X-Factor in the forwardline or game breaking handballs or game smarts.
I would trade half the team before Edwards. There is absolutely no chance he would be traded this year
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:lol :lol :lol
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2nd most contested possessions of any Tiger this season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-11/deledio-tops-tiger-stats-charts
exactly. This year!!!!!
lets talk about his career as a whole and lets talk about the currency he now has after his last 12 games. (not the first few)
Absolutely trade
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2nd most contested possessions of any Tiger this season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-11/deledio-tops-tiger-stats-charts
exactly. This year!!!!!
lets talk about his career as a whole and lets talk about the currency he now has after his last 12 games. (not the first few)
Absolutely trade
Dont go there, apparently he has only played this year and in 2011..... :whistle :whistle
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He would be the most underrated player on our list :whistle :whistle
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:lol :lol :lol
To be fair, half the team is still pretty shyte. I'm presuming that's the half Stripes was referring to.
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2nd most contested possessions of any Tiger this season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-11/deledio-tops-tiger-stats-charts
exactly. This year!!!!!
lets talk about his career as a whole and lets talk about the currency he now has after his last 12 games. (not the first few)
Absolutely trade
Geez he was like 60kgs when he arrived
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hes turned the corner now, I'd keep - we wouldn't get more than a pick 30-40 for him anyway
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hes turned the corner now, I'd keep - we wouldn't get more than a pick 30-40 for him anyway
says who.
we offloaded 30 odd for Hampspud so that means we are set for a top 10 for this bloke.
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I suppose some people just dont think contested possessions or clearances are that important.
Seems that way Al.
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hes turned the corner now, I'd keep - we wouldn't get more than a pick 30-40 for him anyway
says who.
we offloaded 30 odd for Hampspud so that means we are set for a top 10 for this bloke.
unfortunately we cant trade with ourselves angus :lol
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touche tm
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4th place in the JDM. Nice work Shane. :thumbsup
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Lets hear a few congratulation posts from some of his supporters on here
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Lets see him back it up next year for a change.
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Bait taken ;D
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Bait taken ;D
Well lets see it....no bait taken, just fact!!
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#2 contested possession
#justfacts
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good back half edwards, but its very easy to get 4th place when your up against it with the likes of Morris, newman and grigg.
Gee whiz Morris finish 10th. I guess when our coach is awarding points what else can you expect.
Just another celebration of mediocrity and another way to steal $200 from us members to have a big plate with stuff all food on it.
same poo was said last year and the year before and the year before.
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good back half edwards, but its very easy to get 4th place when your up against it with the likes of Morris, newman and grigg.
you forgot the etc etc
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good back half edwards, but its very easy to get 4th place when your up against it with the likes of Morris, newman and grigg.
you forgot the etc etc
true
conca, hampson, houli, dea, foley, jackson, king, knights, pettered, thomas, edwards to name some more.
real power units we got down at Punt Road. Surprised he even took votes off all these guns to be honest
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Congratulations Shank on coming 4th in an award that Daniel Jackson once won - irrefutable proof you've finally made it.
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Congratulations Shank on coming 4th in an award that Daniel Jackson once won - irrefutable proof you've finally made it.
:clapping
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Titch is playing tonight in Perth for the All-Stars against the Eagles. He'll be wearing guernsey #2.
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2015/2/2015-indigenous-all-stars-team/
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Yes well, wasn't even mentioned.....
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He was mentioned on the AFL site....Shane Edwards provided early spark :clapping
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He was mentioned on the AFL site....Shane Edwards provided early spark :clapping
What lighting the BBQ.. :whistle
Then what, did the usual and went missing all game...
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Keeping his powder dry for the season proper :shh
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I think Shed is WAT and he has self esteem issues
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Yes well, wasn't even mentioned.....
He was mentioned on the AFL site....Shane Edwards provided early spark :clapping
Ah this explains why he has so many stupid things to say, he can't even read :lol
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Keeping his powder dry for the season 2021 :shh
:shh
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:whistle :whistle :whistle
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VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-02-24/edwards-allstar-experience
Talented Richmond forward/midfielder, Shane Edwards, has spoken of the positive influence a growing understanding of his Indigenous heritage has had on his AFL playing career.
“Being a reserved person, and not speaking up a lot, has allowed me to learn a lot more and absorb a lot more things. But at the same time, that hinders me in improving. So I need to realise what my strengths and weaknesses are.
“It’s something that I still have to adapt to sometimes . . . I can shy away a bit from taking the extra responsibility as an older player . . . I need to give my share when I should and speak up when I should because I’m not going to learn more if I don’t express things.
“Also, I’m always having people tell me how old I am. I’ve been in the system for going on nine years, so hopefully I’ve learned enough to know a few things.”
“It was good to have (Indigenous Richmond newcomer) Nathan Drummond come. He soaks it up . . . he’s a real listener, not so much a talker, which I reckon is really important in the first couple of years. In turn, it made me talk a little bit more, which is a bit different.”
Read more and view the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-02-24/edwards-inspired-by-his-heritage-
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How good was his assist :bow dynamic is the word I am looking for. :bow
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I still think his best spot is up forward.
Unfortunately he just tries to be to smart playing midfield and turns the ball over far to much.
If given the chance he could be the small forward we have been crying out for but he needs to be left there and not thrown into the midfield where he's justnot up to it...
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I still think his best spot is up forward.
Unfortunately he just tries to be to smart playing midfield and turns the ball over far to much.
If given the chance he could be the small forward we have been crying out for but he needs to be left there and not thrown into the midfield where he's justnot up to it...
Yep should play mainly forward and only pinch hit in midfield at most. Something like 80-20 split at most
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Occasionally does magic things in the midfield. Fastest hands in the team imo.
But I've always believed he's best suited to the small forward role. Don't know what our obsession is with moving guys to the midfield once they're performing at one end or the other.
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Occasionally does magic things in the midfield. Fastest hands in the team imo.
But I've always believed he's best suited to the small forward role. Don't know what our obsession is with moving guys to the midfield once they're performing at one end or the other.
I think it is to keep the ferals frothing
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The critics are quiet this off season. Looks to be in fine fettle.
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Just that no one cares about wizard cup form
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Quiet thread again.. :gotigers
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Quiet thread again.. :gotigers
nothing to enthuse about or for that matter bag. pretty average game. i expect more but certainly would not want to see less.
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Quiet thread again.. :gotigers
7 clearances and 3 goals assists might have something to do with that. Even Malthouse mentioned Edwards' impact.
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I thought he was very very good.
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Edwards for mine, well he was excellent one of the BOG without doubt,. He was the only player that cleared the ball out of the center for us consistently, 6 times in fact. His handballs were great and really got us going!!! Excellent game Shane, keep that going mate!!
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Great game
He owes us many more like that to bridge the gap
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Just does so much stuff that the tv watches dont see!
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Hands like lightning. is now a very important player for us.
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Great game
He owes us many more like that to bridge the gap
Edwards has been playing like this week in week out for the past 50+ games :shh
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Just does so much stuff that the tv watches dont see!
Ain't that the truth, TV coverage misses so so much
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Becoming a very classy player. Our most creative players when using ball by hand
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Quiet thread again.. :gotigers
nothing to enthuse about or for that matter bag. pretty average game. i expect more but certainly would not want to see less.
yeah Claw , great call, NFI
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Quiet thread again.. :gotigers
nothing to enthuse about or for that matter bag. pretty average game. i expect more but certainly would not want to see less.
Were you at the game? Average game?
Possibly the worst post you have ever made.
Titch was great last night. His hands are elite. Close to best in the competition.
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Has turned around his career since the geelong game last season, is a genuine contributor now. Really solid.
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One of the most underrated players going around. His hands in close and vision is elite. Not getting carried away after one game, he has been doing what he did last night for the past 2 seasons now and doesn't get the kudos he deserves. Has become very reliable and is one of the guys I like to see involved in pivotal moments/plays of the game. He wont get noticed by many but thats not an issue, is a gun for mine.
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I thought he was very very good.
he barely touched the ball for three quarters. was invisible for huge parts of the game as is his norm.
yeah he did some nice things in tight and won his share of c/p which he always does. if not for his last quarter his game was very ordinary.
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I'm one of Titch's most critical observers on here but I thought he was much better than ok last night his handball to Grigg for our sixth goal was sublime and he had many other score involvements and clearance work. Consistency is the key with him. Good and bad with Shane are way way too far apart still. Here's hoping the gap closes more.
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Great game
He owes us many more like that to bridge the gap
Edwards has been playing like this week in week out for the past 50+ games :shh
last 50? so last 2 seasons and a bit week in week out he has performed like that you think?
Each to their own i guess. He has played many more poor ones out of his 150.
We are all on the same team here if he helps win us a flag who cares about past performances.
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Now if anyone on here bashes this bloke up it's your truely ;D Well Edwards game last night was one of his better games where he was always about to pull off some rubbish that they keep him around the club for. Last night l gave him a 7 ;D :gotigers
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I thought he was very very good.
he barely touched the ball for three quarters. was invisible for huge parts of the game as is his norm.
yeah he did some nice things in tight and won his share of c/p which he always does. if not for his last quarter his game was very ordinary.
Not again WAT!
If he barely touched the ball for the first three quarters, how did he have 11 possessions in the first half (our 4th highest) and finish with 22 for the game?
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Possies:
Hunt 14
Lids 13
Macca 13
Titch 11
Floss 10
Jack 10
Miles 10
Rance 9
Houli 9
Chaplin 9
Lloyd 8
Ellis 8
Grigg 7
Batch 7
Dusty 6
Ivan 6
Griffs 6
Cotch 6
Newy 5
Grimes 5
Morris 3
Gordon 0 (sub not used yet)
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would be a far lesser side without him
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I thought he was very very good.
he barely touched the ball for three quarters. was invisible for huge parts of the game as is his norm.
yeah he did some nice things in tight and won his share of c/p which he always does. if not for his last quarter his game was very ordinary.
Not again WAT!
If he barely touched the ball for the first three quarters, how did he have 11 possessions in the first half (our 4th highest) and finish with 22 for the game?
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Possies:
Hunt 14
Lids 13
Macca 13
Titch 11
Floss 10
Jack 10
Miles 10
Rance 9
Houli 9
Chaplin 9
Lloyd 8
Ellis 8
Grigg 7
Batch 7
Dusty 6
Ivan 6
Griffs 6
Cotch 6
Newy 5
Grimes 5
Morris 3
Gordon 0 (sub not used yet)
WTF, wake up Dooks, I will re-post what I said and then wait for your apology!!!! Some of you posters... :banghead
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Edwards for mine, well he was excellent one of the BOG without doubt,. He was the only player that cleared the ball out of the center for us consistently, 6 times in fact. His handballs were great and really got us going!!! Excellent game Shane, keep that going mate!!
For you Dooks, you ******* **** !!!!!
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Edwards for mine, well he was excellent one of the BOG without doubt,. He was the only player that cleared the ball out of the center for us consistently, 6 times in fact. His handballs were great and really got us going!!! Excellent game Shane, keep that going mate!!
For you Dooks, you ******* **** !!!!!
Oops sorry Wat. I meant claw. Ok I'll repost below....
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I thought he was very very good.
he barely touched the ball for three quarters. was invisible for huge parts of the game as is his norm.
yeah he did some nice things in tight and won his share of c/p which he always does. if not for his last quarter his game was very ordinary.
Claw!
If he barely touched the ball for the first three quarters, how did he have 11 possessions in the first half (our 4th highest) and finish with 22 for the game?
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Possies:
Hunt 14
Lids 13
Macca 13
Titch 11
Floss 10
Jack 10
Miles 10
Rance 9
Houli 9
Chaplin 9
Lloyd 8
Ellis 8
Grigg 7
Batch 7
Dusty 6
Ivan 6
Griffs 6
Cotch 6
Newy 5
Grimes 5
Morris 3
Gordon 0 (sub not used yet)
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Edwards for mine, well he was excellent one of the BOG without doubt,. He was the only player that cleared the ball out of the center for us consistently, 6 times in fact. His handballs were great and really got us going!!! Excellent game Shane, keep that going mate!!
For you Dooks, you ******* **** !!!!!
Oops sorry Wat. I meant claw. Ok I'll repost below....
Ok, no worries. :thumbsup
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Does a lot of little things very well.
Death touches.
Handballs.
Side steps.
Assists.
Smothers.
Pressure acts.
Blocks.
Mr Elite :thumbsup
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I thought he was very very good.
he barely touched the ball for three quarters. was invisible for huge parts of the game as is his norm.
yeah he did some nice things in tight and won his share of c/p which he always does. if not for his last quarter his game was very ordinary.
Not again WAT!
If he barely touched the ball for the first three quarters, how did he have 11 possessions in the first half (our 4th highest) and finish with 22 for the game?
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Possies:
Hunt 14
Lids 13
Macca 13
Titch 11
Floss 10
Jack 10
Miles 10
Rance 9
Houli 9
Chaplin 9
Lloyd 8
Ellis 8
Grigg 7
Batch 7
Dusty 6
Ivan 6
Griffs 6
Cotch 6
Newy 5
Grimes 5
Morris 3
Gordon 0 (sub not used yet)
simple he didnt.
since otherds are bringing up stats i looked up his quarters break down they went as thus
q1 - 2 kicks 0 h/b
q2 - 3kicks 1hb
q3 - 0 kicks 2 hb
thats 8 dispoasols and 0 tackles. its worse than i thought.
q4 - 4 kicks 9h/b 3 tackles.
they confirm what i thought, that he was invisible for big chunks of the game.
totals 9 kicks 12 h/b 3 tackles.
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Where's a link to your stats?
I'll trust One -Eyes over yours
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Where's a link to your stats?
I'll trust One -Eyes over yours
nine msm live score updates. one of the few sites i can find who do a quarter by quarter break down.
would appreciate if you or anyone else could provide a lnk to other sites that do it.
also if proved correct all apologies will be accepted ;D.
one continual complaint i have with edwards is he just doesnt consistently get his hands on the ball enough. to me for an average mid 20 a game is the cut off as good as people make him out t be last yr he went at 17 .6 a game. it highlights the fact he does go missing throughout games too much.
as i said i thought he did some nice things but i also thought his game very inconsistent. and for three quarters he just didnt get his hands on the pill enough for me. 26yo 150 game mids just have to be better.
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Where's a link to your stats?
I'll trust One -Eyes over yours
nine msm live score updates. one of the few sites i can find who do a quarter by quarter break down.
would appreciate if you or anyone else could provide a lnk to other sites that do it.
Link please.....
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Well Claw hs raised some good points to ponder in his stats.
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The stats are contrary to OEs stats.
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I thought Shane Edwards was good for the full game from watching the game.
He is a star at centre clearances ,when we were getting thrashed in the centre he is put in to stop the problem ( Age - 7 clearances)
Very nice work at getting the ball out and giving it to advantage
No wonder the coaching staff rate him very highly
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Has gone up a level in last 12 mths sheds. Fine player :clapping
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Agreed Bo
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The stats are contrary to OEs stats.
and that makes me wrong eh. you wouldnt like to bring up those stats from the site i pointed you to.
im forced to keep on saying it supporters defend mediocrity continually for god knows why. his game was average today that means passable.that is my opinion. ffs you would not want it drop away because then he becomes a fair dinkum liability. where is oe anyway im sure he can shed some light on those stats..
wont change my opinion of edwards either way. averge player at best whose only consistency is to go missing in games.
yes he has nice hands intight he wins his share of c/ps but at the end of the day he rarely ever does enough. 26yr old going on 27 150 plus games and we are still having debates about his worth.that initself sort of says it all imo.
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I thought Shane Edwards was good for the full game from watching the game.
He is a star at centre clearances ,when we were getting thrashed in the centre he is put in to stop the problem ( Age - 7 clearances)
Very nice work at getting the ball out and giving it to advantage
No wonder the coaching staff rate him very highly
They also rate Newman and grigg
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Has gone up a level in last 12 mths sheds. Fine player :clapping
This I agree with. His last 12 have been his best that can't be questioned
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Has gone up a level in last 12 mths sheds. Fine player :clapping
This I agree with. His last 12 have been his best that can't be questioned
can i ask where would you rate his best at the last 12 months. poor, ave, good, verygood, elite.
for what its worth im more than happy to place him in the average basket.
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The stats are contrary to OEs stats.
and that makes me wrong eh. you wouldnt like to bring up those stats from the site i pointed you to.
im forced to keep on saying it supporters defend mediocrity continually for god knows why. his game was average today that means passable.that is my opinion. ffs you would not want it drop away because then he becomes a fair dinkum liability. where is oe anyway im sure he can shed some light on those stats..
wont change my opinion of edwards either way. averge player at best whose only consistency is to go missing in games.
yes he has nice hands intight he wins his share of c/ps but at the end of the day he rarely ever does enough. 26yr old going on 27 150 plus games and we are still having debates about his worth.that initself sort of says it all imo.
You forgot his 7 clearances, which is a good result in anyone's language. Even raised a mention by Malthouse in his presser.
Just STOP always looking for the dark side, it's become boring repititive reading
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The stats are contrary to OEs stats.
and that makes me wrong eh. you wouldnt like to bring up those stats from the site i pointed you to.
im forced to keep on saying it supporters defend mediocrity continually for god knows why. his game was average today that means passable.that is my opinion. ffs you would not want it drop away because then he becomes a fair dinkum liability. where is oe anyway im sure he can shed some light on those stats..
wont change my opinion of edwards either way. averge player at best whose only consistency is to go missing in games.
yes he has nice hands intight he wins his share of c/ps but at the end of the day he rarely ever does enough. 26yr old going on 27 150 plus games and we are still having debates about his worth.that initself sort of says it all imo.
You forgot his 7 clearances, which is a good result in anyone's language. Even raised a mention by Malthouse in his presser.
Just STOP always looking for the dark side, it's become boring repititive reading
when people stop talking him up above what hes done then i will. it does get boring and repetitive people constantly over rating our players as well.
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The stats are contrary to OEs stats.
and that makes me wrong eh. you wouldnt like to bring up those stats from the site i pointed you to.
im forced to keep on saying it supporters defend mediocrity continually for god knows why. his game was average today that means passable.that is my opinion. ffs you would not want it drop away because then he becomes a fair dinkum liability. where is oe anyway im sure he can shed some light on those stats..
wont change my opinion of edwards either way. averge player at best whose only consistency is to go missing in games.
yes he has nice hands intight he wins his share of c/ps but at the end of the day he rarely ever does enough. 26yr old going on 27 150 plus games and we are still having debates about his worth.that initself sort of says it all imo.
You forgot his 7 clearances, which is a good result in anyone's language. Even raised a mention by Malthouse in his presser.
Just STOP always looking for the dark side, it's become boring repititive reading
when people stop talking him up above what hes done then i will. it does get boring and repetitive people constantly over rating our players as well.
At the end of the day you can only assess ones game by his output!
Game high contested possessions and game high clearances says he's had a pretty good game, not my opinion nor is it your repetitive negative opinion either, it's simply some stats that are highly valued in our game. Not talking anyone up, just allowing an open mind when assessing ones output
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Where's a link to your stats?
I'll trust One -Eyes over yoursa
nine msm live score updates. one of the few sites i can find who do a quarter by quarter break down.
would appreciate if you or anyone else could provide a lnk to other sites that do it.
also if proved correct all apologies will be accepted ;D.
one continual complaint i have with edwards is he just doesnt consistently get his hands on the ball enough. to me for an average mid 20 a game is the cut off as good as people make him out t be last yr he went at 17 .6 a game. it highlights the fact he does go missing throughout games too much.
as i said i thought he did some nice things but i also thought his game very inconsistent. and for three quarters he just didnt get his hands on the pill enough for me. 26yo 150 game mids just have to be better.
Q1 4
Q2 7
Q3 3
Q4 7
That's puts Shanes worse three quarter spread of possessions at 14, his best at 17.
According to champion data.
In a a match where game high possessions was 27 then his stats don't look too bad.
I largely agree with claw about Edwards historically however when it comes to Thursday night, I disagree. He was very consistent.
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Watch the replay and see how many goals he was involved in :shh
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Has gone up a level in last 12 mths sheds. Fine player :clapping
This I agree with. His last 12 have been his best that can't be questioned
can i ask where would you rate his best at the last 12 months. poor, ave, good, verygood, elite.
for what its worth im more than happy to place him in the average basket.
Claw, i like you have always had doubts that he was worth persisting with but his last 12 has been good so that's where i put him.
His quick hands and goal assists in most of the last 22 games, has been nice to watch. His 2013 was also above average but he went missing in a lot of games IIR.
Those are calling his career are success thus far have made their mind up, and really there is no point trying to convince them as they must be confused.
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I understand some will judge him by how many possessions he gets but it's how he gets it , delivers it and the team things that make him a coaches favourite and rated as elite by Elite Sport
I too just love when he gets the ball and want more consistency as 20 possessions is bad news for the opposition but watch him closely you might find he is being tagged closely!
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While Richmond debutants Taylor Hunt and Kamdyn McIntosh justifiably received plenty of plaudits for their excellent efforts through the midfield in the Round 1 win against Carlton at the MCG, an experienced Tiger continued to fly under the radar.
Shane Edwards again played a key role for the Tigers rotating through the forward line and midfield.
He had 21 disposals, including a whopping, game-high 15 contested possessions, a game-high seven clearances and seven score assists.
Catch up with all the news, videos and stats from the Round 1 win, at Richmond’s game-day hub
Although many outside Richmond may not yet fully appreciate Edwards’ value to the team, he’s clearly held in high esteem within Tigerland’s four walls.
“He’s a gun, pure and simple,” Richmond assistant coach Mark ‘Wilbur’ Williams said on ‘The Richmond Review’.
“His creation of play is outstanding. He sees things five minutes before other blokes see them. He’s just amazing with what he sees.
“Sometime he has to hold on to the ball longer, for other blokes to recognise what’s going on.
“His hands were outstanding tonight. He got blokes into space, and he was at the start of a chain a lot, especially centre-forward turnovers.
“We just marvel at what he does, and rate him really highly.
“I thought tonight he joined the dots. He was the guy who got a ball from pressure to space, put other blokes out in space and got them going . . . he played a fantastic game.
“When he goes in the centre, he sets us alight. He has fantastic work-rate forward, but we can also rely on him as a centre bounce player to get in there and win clearance for us
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game-high 15 contested possessions, a game-high seven clearances and seven score assists.
:bow
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Spot on Chocco. :thumbsup
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Spot on Chocco. :thumbsup
'Wilbur' is the other Mark Williams, Magic.
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Meanwhile back at the ranch, claw is still trying to convince others that Titch had a poor game!
Really starting to question your knowledge of the game Claw :gotigers
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Edwards was excellent the other night
Just because he doesn't kick many goals he gets bagged
Some on here should actually watch the game
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lightyears ahead of the grigg/houli/pettard/newman etc. possee
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Meanwhile back at the ranch, claw is still trying to convince others that Titch had a poor game!
Really starting to question your knowledge of the game Claw :gotigers
its taken you this long?
got smashed in clearances today without Edwards, yet he is the problem according to some?
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Meanwhile back at the ranch, claw is still trying to convince others that Titch had a poor game!
Really starting to question your knowledge of the game Claw :gotigers
its taken you this long?
got smashed in clearances today without Edwards, yet he is the problem according to some?
on the outside too
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Missed his quick disposal today. So many guys can't handball quickly...
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Struth how we missed him today
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Missed his quick disposal today. So many guys can't handball quickly...
miles. edwards. deledio
you are correct there are other that are poo
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Struth how we missed him toda
Indeed we did. His movement around the stoppages and his creative footy mind was sorely missed.
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No Edwards, no Richmond.
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No Edwards, no Richmond.
oh dear. didnt he play today. would never have known.
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nah, coz without him we still won our fair share of clearances....
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nah, coz without him we still won our fair share of clearances....
lol another of your elite gems eh al. geez i love it.
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:lol
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Just another average game by Titch.
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Glass half full type
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
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Stick that win up ya jumper claw , how does it feel :lol
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Stick that win up ya jumper claw , how does it feel :lol
if you really must know im laughing at ya. hhhhaaaaarrrrggghhhhhhh.
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"Pretty decent"
Was brilliant this evening.
Form where i was sitting at the Gabba he was BOG.
He creates attacks, he creates goals, he applies pressure....fantastic game tonight
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" bog" na i actually thought a bloke wearing an opposition jumper was best on ground but hey they lost and thats not fashionable when that happens.
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who cares. He will stuff up soon enough
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
This is no different to you getting on here and telling all and sundry otherwise with your views on players and how useless they...can't you see you own contradiction
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
Not on a pretty decent game, it was a bloody good game, Titch showed yet again tonight how valuable he is and how sorely he was missed last week.
As for at the ready waiting to post, well that's only because some on here, without naming names simply just can't concede that their knowledge of the game is somewhat clouded by pride.
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Thought Edwards and Houli were terrific
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Thought Edwards and Houli were terrific
...as they usually are against weak sides who exert little defensive pressure....
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Thought Edwards and Houli were terrific
...as they usually are against weak sides who exert little defensive pressure....
Absolute unsubstantiated nonsense
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I think Houli has made more of an effort to increase his defensive pressure in recent times..... I'd like to see Houli and Titch perform under pressure - either against a top 4 side
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Amazing peoples opinions on here
At ground level
The relentless running by both was fantastic
Doesn't matter who you play .ITS HOW YOU PLAY
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Amazing peoples opinions on here
At ground level
The relentless running by both was fantastic
Doesn't matter who you play .ITS HOW YOU PLAY
That's nice, don't be afraid to post in the Cotchin thread then
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Could be our most important player...ticks all the boxes :clapping
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Just another average game by Titch.
:huh
Pretty harsh call
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"Pretty decent"
Was brilliant this evening.
Form where i was sitting at the Gabba he was BOG.
He creates attacks, he creates goals, he applies pressure....fantastic game tonight
I thought he was excellent last night. Certainly added to our team and showed how badly both he and deledio were missed against the footscray pace the week before.
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Oh no - the dark clouds will need another whipping boy, maybe that overweight kid who played in the half time break, wasn't chasing hard enough and looked like he sleeps with a night light :lol
We love Shane at Tigerland!
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Shane Edwards
Very good player
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Shane Edwards
Very good player
:thumbsup
l think his on LSD he pulls off some poo stuff ;D
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This bloke is slick as. And I very clearly remember him carving up quality opponents - great example would be when geelong were in their prime, Titch was slaughtering them, so Darren Milburn decided to knock Titch unconscious.
Don't worry girls. This bloke can deliver when we need it. Our ball movement is much better with him in the team. Lids back will help even more.
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Thought Edwards and Houli were terrific
...as they usually are against weak sides who exert little defensive pressure....
Absolute unsubstantiated nonsense
To be fair there is something to Dios view.
But they were very good last night
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Just another average game by Titch.
:huh
Pretty harsh call
His average games are of an excellent level these days.
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Mr Elite!
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Just another average game by Titch.
:huh
Pretty harsh call
No bites on the old double bluff......diabolical
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Come again :huh
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
Not on a pretty decent game, it was a bloody good game, Titch showed yet again tonight how valuable he is and how sorely he was missed last week.
As for at the ready waiting to post, well that's only because some on here, without naming names simply just can't concede that their knowledge of the game is somewhat clouded by pride.
lol i did say it was a pretty decent game. you know what im quite prepared to concede the phraseology, it was a how did you put it, a bloody good game.
and just a little point of difference here. i dont come on any thread asking where are the critics when they have bad games.
it really is tough titties if people dont like the criticims of our players. i call it as i see it win lose or draw.
if i listened to some posters not naming names now, edwards has been elite for 5 yrs or more. an utter nonsense.
his yr last yr was average yet people call him elite.
yes he has good games he also has average games and god forbid i say it poor ones as well.
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
Not on a pretty decent game, it was a bloody good game, Titch showed yet again tonight how valuable he is and how sorely he was missed last week.
As for at the ready waiting to post, well that's only because some on here, without naming names simply just can't concede that their knowledge of the game is somewhat clouded by pride.
lol i did say it was a pretty decent game. you know what im quite prepared to concede the phraseology, it was a how did you put it, a bloody good game.
and just a little point of difference here. i dont come on any thread asking where are the critics when they have bad games.
it really is tough titties if people dont like the criticims of our players. i call it as i see it win lose or draw.
if i listened to some posters not naming names now, edwards has been elite for 5 yrs or more. an utter nonsense.
his yr last yr was average yet people call him elite.
yes he has good games he also has average games and god forbid i say it poor ones as well.
Been elite for quite some time now!
The easiest thing in the world to do is criticise, say no more
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
Not on a pretty decent game, it was a bloody good game, Titch showed yet again tonight how valuable he is and how sorely he was missed last week.
As for at the ready waiting to post, well that's only because some on here, without naming names simply just can't concede that their knowledge of the game is somewhat clouded by pride.
lol i did say it was a pretty decent game. you know what im quite prepared to concede the phraseology, it was a how did you put it, a bloody good game.
and just a little point of difference here. i dont come on any thread asking where are the critics when they have bad games.
it really is tough titties if people dont like the criticims of our players. i call it as i see it win lose or draw.
if i listened to some posters not naming names now, edwards has been elite for 5 yrs or more. an utter nonsense.
his yr last yr was average yet people call him elite.
yes he has good games he also has average games and god forbid i say it poor ones as well.
Been elite for quite some time now!
The easiest thing in the world to do is criticise, say no more
seems even when you dont criticise even when you acknowledge a good game you still cop crap. no winninning with some now is there. from here on in i think i will stick with the negatives.
you think him elite thats fine. plenty dont and the last time i looked thats fine as well.
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Some people finipoohink Sheds elite some people don't finipoohink that
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Just a delight to watch. Silk.
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geez i have to say the flower sniffers are sure quick of the mark.
its like they are just waiting at the key board with hot sweaty little fingers for the siren to go!!!!!! so they can post. quite funny really fellas.
anyway just so i cant be accused of only posting when hes average which is still too often mind, or posters like magic ask silly questions like where are the critics ::) .
well done shane on a pretty decent game.
Not on a pretty decent game, it was a bloody good game, Titch showed yet again tonight how valuable he is and how sorely he was missed last week.
As for at the ready waiting to post, well that's only because some on here, without naming names simply just can't concede that their knowledge of the game is somewhat clouded by pride.
lol i did say it was a pretty decent game. you know what im quite prepared to concede the phraseology, it was a how did you put it, a bloody good game.
and just a little point of difference here. i dont come on any thread asking where are the critics when they have bad games.
it really is tough titties if people dont like the criticims of our players. i call it as i see it win lose or draw.
if i listened to some posters not naming names now, edwards has been elite for 5 yrs or more. an utter nonsense.
his yr last yr was average yet people call him elite.
yes he has good games he also has average games and god forbid i say it poor ones as well.
Been elite for quite some time now!
The easiest thing in the world to do is criticise, say no more
seems even when you dont criticise even when you acknowledge a good game you still cop crap. no winninning with some now is there. from here on in i think i will stick with the negatives.
you think him elite thats fine. plenty dont and the last time i looked thats fine as well.
No not at all, I don't think I ever in my posts ensured you 'cop crap' as you put it.
My only point is that you spend so much time on here being critical of all things Richmond that you've painted yourself into a corner and can't see anything positive when it sticks out like a pimple on your nose.
Shane Edwards is a very good player and an extremely valubale member of the team and has been for quite a while now. Like anyone in life he also is entitled to have an off day without keyboard warriors taking his hide like it's their right.
Anyway as I say, the easiest thing in life to do is to criticise, say no more
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was is edwards being compared to houli?
far more valuable player
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Cotchin on 3aw talking about the importance of Edwards ...
* He’s crucial. He’s clean with the footy, he’s creative but it’s his work-rate which is the thing that inspires the majority of our teammates. Every time we have a review meeting, he’ll be in three or four examples, where he’s either pushed back to help the defence or shown his ability to equalise in the front half, which is just outstanding. That’s what we want everyone to raise the bar to, so he’s setting the standard in that area.
* Titchy’ Edwards is just one of those guys you love being around. He does fly under the radar, certainly not within our four walls. I think in the AFL world he’s under-rated but he’s starting to get recognition across the board, as he thoroughly deserves.
* I’d almost throw him in as someone who could take his game to a new level as a midfielder. The coaches have a lot of trust in him. He’s thrown into the centre bounce a lot because of how good he is at winning centre-bounce clearance and he’s just one of those guys that you can trust that he’s going to perform week in, week out. That’s the level he’s got to. I think he’s 26-27 now and has been in the system for a long time. He was just trying to find that consistency and last year he was rewarded with a top-five Best and Fairest finish. I think we’re going to see even bigger things this year, which is only exciting for our footy club.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-22/edwards-energises-tigers
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Now the collective has had a tizz over titch, I fear for him friday :help
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Malthouse gave him a big wrap for his clearances in the first round.
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Cotchin on 3aw talking about the importance of Edwards ...
* He’s crucial. He’s clean with the footy, he’s creative but it’s his work-rate which is the thing that inspires the majority of our teammates. Every time we have a review meeting, he’ll be in three or four examples, where he’s either pushed back to help the defence or shown his ability to equalise in the front half, which is just outstanding. That’s what we want everyone to raise the bar to, so he’s setting the standard in that area.
* Titchy’ Edwards is just one of those guys you love being around. He does fly under the radar, certainly not within our four walls. I think in the AFL world he’s under-rated but he’s starting to get recognition across the board, as he thoroughly deserves.
* I’d almost throw him in as someone who could take his game to a new level as a midfielder. The coaches have a lot of trust in him. He’s thrown into the centre bounce a lot because of how good he is at winning centre-bounce clearance and he’s just one of those guys that you can trust that he’s going to perform week in, week out. That’s the level he’s got to. I think he’s 26-27 now and has been in the system for a long time. He was just trying to find that consistency and last year he was rewarded with a top-five Best and Fairest finish. I think we’re going to see even bigger things this year, which is only exciting for our footy club.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-22/edwards-energises-tigers
Dont worry Trent, those of us that attend matches see how good he is. :bow
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Dimma in his round 3 dissection talking about Titch:
Q. Shane Edwards has pressure acts and 10 scoring involvements. Has his position in the team been upgraded from important to critical?
Dimma:
Shane has become a wonderful player for our footy club and had two outstanding games so far this year. No doubt if he had played in the Bulldogs game, our side look different and we perform to a better level. His ability to, one, create, and two, impact the game defensively, is probably the best in our side. His a player since Dimma has been at Richmond, that hasn't missed a game and has improved each and every year. A great player. He's always been critical but now he is starting to believe that he is one of the elite players of the competition and we are fortunate to have him. So we look forward to seeing the continued season improvement. One thing we'd like to see more is more scoreboard pressure (i.e. kicking goals himself). We know he generates a lot of goal assists but we
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Thank heavens those at the club had the good judgement to tie him up last year for another couple of years.
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Star :bow
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Brilliant again this week
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Gun
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Actually was the only highlight in an otherwise insipid performance
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The one bright light in an otherwise dismal evening......
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Out and out star and has been for quite some time, if only some others showed the commitment and endeavour Titch does then we would be a much better team.
Plenty of man love for Titch
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Him and Rance are examples why you should keep the faith with your own and give them time. As bad as Richie Tambling was I still think he was worth keeping, even if we kept him as a rookie. Dees need to persist with Watts, as bad as he is at the moment. Rance and Edwards were once consistently worst on ground performers.
Don't waste list money on other clubs rejects and recycled rubbish. Keep developing your own.
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I'll give credit to the kid.
Was great again tonight.
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Shane Edwards gathers 24 touches in Richmond’s disappointing loss to Melbourne
Sam Landsberger
Herald-Sun
April 24, 2015 11:04PM
WHEN Richmond players climb out of bed on Saturday morning with their season dangerously close to spiralling out of control there is one surprising Tiger who can hold his head the highest.
The little-known dasher could walk down Swan St with scarce recognition and that seemed to translate to the centre square at the MCG last night.
His stats sheet at half-time made for inspiring reading.
But the Tigers’ fixture leading into the Round 11 bye makes for a depressing sight — and they can expect the blowtorch to shine on Punt Rd next week.
Edwards led all-comers for disposals (15), clearances (six) and was one shy of the tackle (four) count at the main break.
He was the reason the Tigers stayed in the disappointing 32-point loss to Melbourne for three quarters as Richmond finished with its lowest score against the Demons in 25 years.
Captain Trent Cotchin last week said Edwards was now regularly bobbing up in game reviews for his selfless efforts.
“The coaches have a lot of trust in him,” Cotchin said.
“He’s thrown into the centre bounce a lot because of how good he is at winning centre-bounce clearances.”
Last week his return of 17 pressure acts — the buzz stat in footy — and 10 score involvements flew under the radar.
And his total of 24 disposals (17 contested) to go with seven clearances was jus as impressive in tougher conditions and he could have an early lead on best-and-fairest voting.
Edwards played his best contested game as a rare Tiger willing to get his hands dirty and Champion Data recorded 11 different opponents for him, including a tag from Heritier Lumumba to start the second half.
The 26-year-old slotted the first goal of the second quarter and the last of the third term to keep the Tigers afloat, but his swift elevation this season to Tigers stat status will provide little comfort to coach Damien Hardwick today.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/shane-edwards-gathers-24-touches-in-richmonds-disappointing-loss-to-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227319688963
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I'll give credit to the kid.
Was great again tonight.
Great Dom? Not for me
Of the 24 at least half a dozen were putrid possessions
Easy to look descent when your surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals
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I'll give credit to the kid.
Was great again tonight.
Great Dom? Not for me
Of the 24 at least half a dozen were putrid possessions
Easy to look descent when your surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals
Come on...the kid is a fantastic player. Its about time you see the light and see the champ that is Tich ;)
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I'll give credit to the kid.
Was great again tonight.
Great Dom? Not for me
Of the 24 at least half a dozen were putrid possessions
Easy to look descent when your surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals
What a tool of a comment from an absolute flog
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he has surprised one of his biggest critics for many years he does pull some poo off at times :snidegrin
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His pressure is enormous as well. He went non stop at a few contests in a row and was gassed out when he fluffed that kick.
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It's good to see an ordinary player improve at Tigerland to become a decent consistant player for us.
Maybe he has the cure.
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His pressure is enormous as well. He went non stop at a few contests in a row and was gassed out when he fluffed that kick.
No doubt your right he would have been more fatigued than 15 others. All he needed to do was slow it down & get a few breathes. That's the problem with alot of them when they play catch up footy. They blaze away in hope someone else will do the hard work for them. l like Edwards game & also Griffiths. l was very impressed with Griffiths dishing it out when he was set upon & he came out on top. So Dimma must be doing something right down there cause Edwards, Griffiths, Rance & some others have lifted
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His pressure is enormous as well. He went non stop at a few contests in a row and was gassed out when he fluffed that kick.
No doubt your right he would have been more fatigued than 15 others. All he needed to do was slow it down & get a few breathes. That's the problem with alot of them when they play catch up footy. They blaze away in hope someone else will do the hard work for them. l like Edwards game & also Griffiths. l was very impressed with Griffiths dishing it out when he was set upon & he came out on top. So Dimma must be doing something right down there cause Edwards, Griffiths, Rance & some others have lifted
Yeah no excuse to stuff a kick that badly but at least he had a few good things to hang his hat on. Used to do that much more frequently IIRC and it's good to see it's not as common
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His pressure is enormous as well. He went non stop at a few contests in a row and was gassed out when he fluffed that kick.
right onto it, i sometimes wonder if some posters actually watch the game.. Was a standout game from sheds
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Shane sets a shining example
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2015
Amid the gloom of Richmond’s disappointing loss to Melbourne at the MCG in last Friday night’s Anzac Day eve clash, one Tiger player shone like a lighthouse . . .
Shane Edwards was the Tigers’ best player by the length of the ‘G, finishing with 24 disposals, including 16 contested possessions, seven clearances, six inside-50s, five tackles and two goals in a performance that further underlined his growing importance to the Richmond line-up.
“He was a real positive,” Richmond assistant coach Ross Smith said on ‘The Richmond Review’ immediately after the game.
“Shane’s just been terrific, not only the way he’s been playing, but also the way he’s been leading as well this year.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-28/shane-sets-a-shining-example#sthash.50i5DtuZ.dpuf
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
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Richmond’s Dreamtime at the ’G jumper tightens family ties for Shane Edwards
Sam Edmund
Herald-Sun
May 20, 2015
SHANE Edwards was relaxing at his parents’ house in Adelaide over summer when the club email landed.
As one of only two indigenous players at Richmond, the Tigers wanted to know which one of four proposed Dreamtime at the ’G jumpers he liked.
He chose one and then thought nothing more about it. Until recently.
“We didn’t know the significance of it until (director of Richmond’s Korin Gamadji Institute) Belinda Duarte revealed the background and I was like, ‘Oh my God, that’s amazing’,” Edwards said.
“I’m so happy with the one I picked because I thought that was the best one without any other agenda.”
Richmond’s 11th Dreamtime at the ’G guernsey was designed by Edwards’ 15-year-old cousin Derek Summerfield, part of an extended family of which Edwards has been aware for only two years.
The Herald Sun documented Edwards’ emotional journey of discovery in early 2013, when the Tigers’ pre-season trip to Alice Springs allowed him to travel to the tiny Aboriginal settlement of Santa Teresa.
Edwards, 26, finally was able to repair the family disconnect as he walked around the home of his ancestors. Santa Teresa, 80km outside Alice Springs, was home to Edwards’ great-grandmother Elsie Summerfield, a member of the stolen generation.
In Round 9 (May 30) against Essendon, Edwards will wear a jumper that honours his two families.
“The significance is huge because it’s my family’s heritage as well as the Richmond Football Club in one piece of fabric,” he said.
Edwards, whose shyness prevented the Tigers and AFL from becoming aware of his indigenous heritage for the first 18 months of his career, now feels complete.
“Knowing, just knowing is pretty huge. I know a lot of indigenous people don’t go that far back in their heritage so I’m very privileged,” he said.
“I guess it just makes everything clearer. I can put a place to a picture and they ask me questions now. I’ve got my grandmother (Monica) asking me questions when that would never happen on this topic.
“It means heaps, even if it wasn’t indigenous round. But it’s 80,000, Essendon, the build-up of the week and this year I’ll have my family all there and Derek as well.
“Every game you’re full buzz, but you just find that little bit extra for Dreamtime at the ’G. You feel like something you can’t generate in another game, I reckon.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-dreamtime-at-the-g-jumper-tightens-family-ties-for-shane-edwards/story-fndv8t7m-1227360635208
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
lol
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
lol
Are you laughing at the J.Kennesy spelling error?
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
lol
Are you laughing at the J.Kennesy spelling error?
laughing at titch being the 9th best player in the league
what a champ
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Shaun Burgoyne the model for Tiger Edwards
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
May 27, 2015
RICHMOND midfielder Shane Edwards modelled his game on three-time premiership half-back Shaun Burgoyne, but in the process he has become one of the Tigers' most important centre square players.
Edwards, who is in his ninth season at Punt Road, leads the Tigers for centre clearances this season and has lifted his clearance average from 3.26 in 2014 to 5.0 this season.
The 26-year-old will be a key player in Saturday night's Dreamtime at the 'G clash against Essendon, but not in the role he set out to master.
"Coming from Adelaide I always looked up to Shaun Burgoyne," Edwards said on Tuesday.
"He was one of the best players in the competition and still is now, so I tried to model my game on him.
"It's pretty hard though because he's so bloody good."
Edwards spent a large chunk of his career as a small forward and took on a coaching role pre-season, leading drills with the club’s young forwards.
Despite his increased centre square role, he has still managed to average one goal a game this season.
Saturday night's Dreamtime clash will be a special one for Edwards, whose cousin designed the jumper that Richmond will wear.
It also presents a chance for the Tigers to cement their strong form for the past fortnight at a packed MCG, with the Victorian powerhouses averaging crowds of 64,203 in the past 10 years when they meet.
"It would be huge to win it. We haven't won it for a while now and Essendon are always a quality side," he said.
"It's a good test to see where we are in terms of the competition and to keep up our own form.
"It's been 11 years since the first Dreamtime game between these two clubs and it's just a great honour to run out and I'm grateful for the opportunity.
"We want to continue the form we've got and we're not looking any further than the first quarter."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/shaun-burgoyne-the-model-for-tiger-edwards
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He wishes....
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
lol
Are you laughing at the J.Kennesy spelling error?
laughing at titch being the 9th best player in the league
what a champ
What would the coaches know?
Btw how good was that 30m handball to Batchelor to set up our first goal?
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Btw how good was that 30m handball to Batchelor to set up our first goal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS1aX2zp-1E
:thumbsup
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Btw how good was that 30m handball to Batchelor to set up our first goal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS1aX2zp-1E
:thumbsup
:thumbsup
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Titch is 9th overall in the AFL Coaches Association Award:
AFLCA Player of the Year leaderboard
33 – N. Fyfe (Fremantle)
29 – D. Shiel (GWS)
22 – D. Hannebery (Sydney)
21 – R. Sloane (Adelaide)
20 – T. Goldstein (North Melbourne)
20 – T. McDonald (Melbourne)
19 – C. Hooker (Essendon)
19 – S. Pendlebury (Collingwood)
17 – S. Edwards (Richmond)
16 – J. Kennesy (Sydney)
16 – J. McGovern (West Coast)
http://www.aflca.com.au/
lol
Are you laughing at the J.Kennesy spelling error?
laughing at titch being the 9th best player in the league
what a champ
What would the coaches know?
Btw how good was that 30m handball to Batchelor to set up our first goal?
greg williams
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he marks now too :shh
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has been a quality player for a while now. well done to him, he has gone from average to very good afl footballer :clapping
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Some freakish things
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Some freakish things
consistantly :shh
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i like shane and appreciate a lot of what he does, but tonight there were a number of times he should have kicked but hand balled to a team mate and put him under pressure.
still the good outweighed the bad
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Some freakish things
Was stuffing sensational tonight. It's finally falling into place...
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Best indigenous player in our team. :clapping :thumbsup
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Quick feet, quicker hands, lightning fast between the ears.
This bloke is becoming a star. One of our most damaging players.
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He's been a slow burner but boy has he come good - made the transition from C grader and is bordering on becoming A grade
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Sam Edmund @SammyHeraldSun twitter:
"What a night for @S_Edwards10 His family design the indigenous jumper and then he plays a blinder. Could easily have been best-on #gotiges"
https://twitter.com/SammyHeraldSun
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Credit where it's due his playing some very nice football. Let's see how he goes next week against some real opposition. Always been his Achilles heel
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I think he has shown a hell of a lot lately, really doing a good job. B+ player at the moment.
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:lol
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:lol
:huh :huh :huh
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Keeping his powder dry for the season proper :shh
:shh
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is that really Edwards playing out there or does he have a twin. This lad is playing some great footy & pops up unexpectedly every time the heat is on lately.
:gotigers
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Thought he was BOG
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Thought he was BOG
his confidence is sky high just like that mark he took at a very important time in the game.
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BOG last night and hard to argue with his current form - looking forward to seeing if he can wriggle out of the Fremantle vice next week.
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Must be a star. If he has reached B+ status for WAT, he has become elite. ;D
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Must be a star. If he has reached B+ status for WAT, he has become elite. ;D
Yep not bad coming from a z-
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Must be a star. If he has reached B+ status for WAT, he has become elite. ;D
Yep not bad coming from a z-
:lol
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Mr Elite
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Travis King
afl.com.au
May 31, 2015
3. Richmond's 'Fab three' could welcome a new member
It's long been thought that for the Tigers to win important games, they needed big contributions from their three star midfielders Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Dustin Martin. There's still truth to that, but the load has been lessened this year by Shane Edwards' superb form. The 26-year-old has taken his game to another level, averaging 21 touches and a goal a game, but also impacting matches when it counts, and he was critical holding a surging Essendon at bay during Saturday night's Dreamtime at the 'G clash.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-31/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-nine
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Still only 26 - feels like he has been around for ever
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Quite a durable bloke is Edwards. Has always been kept in the side by head coaches.
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10 votes by the coaches! :clapping
May have reached B++ status!!
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:bow
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Love this guy. Silk. :bow
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The way he steps into space and around blokes is sublime
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The way he steps into space and around blokes is sublime
sidestepping is sublime
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Yep. His lateral movement must be some of the best in the AFL. And his 'quickness' in traffic makes other blokes look downright slow.
Absolute cream this bloke. Rated him for years but he's really taken it to a new level. Guess he's a late bloomer like Tucky. Funny how claw thinks he's still average...
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Edwards twin continue to impress Tiger supporters after another great game :snidegrin
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Come on WAT, give him an A-!!!!! :pray
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Huge 2nd half.
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he has improved at a rate of knots over the last 2 and half years. Looks like he is improving further and further as the team improves as well. Well done to Shane he is one player who was average for a long time but has become a very very good player.
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yep, Im glad he's proven me wrong, has been a revelation since the geelong game last year. Become a gun
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Silk and X factor
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Mr Elite!
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In our 5 most valuable players IMO.
He really is our X factor and every good side has one.
He always showed he could play but is doing it consistently now. Star!
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Come on WAT, give him an A-!!!!! :pray
WAT WAT WAT WAT!!!!!!! :clapping
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Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
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:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
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Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
26 years old
still a couple seasons off his best work :shh
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Another great game and year. Been at this level for some time in my eyes :clapping
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Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
26 years old
still a couple seasons off his best work :shh
bull crap. best work is now. talls aside, players are at their peak 25/26
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Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
26 years old
still a couple seasons off his best work :shh
bull crap. best work is now. talls aside, players are at their peak 25/26
source?
i reckon thats wrong. Cotchin, SEdwards, Rance etc. all have great upside.
Even Deledio can find another cog
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Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level. Now he's an elite AFL player.
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
hes been pretty good for a while and many are too blind to see
players dont magically become worse at 26 and start a down hill fall
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
This!!!
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
correct
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
hes been pretty good for a while and many are too blind to see
players dont magically become worse at 26 and start a down hill fall
who said anything about magic, george?
just as the improvement from 22/23 is often incremental, the drop off is too, which will normally start around 28.
generally 25-28 is when adult males are at their physical peak from a sporting perspective.
Obviously (to most anyway) this is not a hard and fast rule as there are always variations between individuals and the bigger blokes tend to be a couple of years behind.
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Titch is now up to seventh in the AFL Coaches award :clapping.
AFLCA PLAYER OF THE YEAR LEADERBOARD
80 - Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
61 - Dan Hannebery (Sydney Swans)
42 - David Armitage (St Kilda)
42 - Dylan Shiel (GWS)
40 - Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
40 - Matt Priddis (West Coast)
32 - Shane Edwards (Richmond)
31 - Josh Kennedy (West Coast)
31 - Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn)
30 - Dayne Beams (Brisbane Lions)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-09/aflca-votes-round-10
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Yes Judge....can't wait for Edwards to become the next Ablett at the age of 31....
Mate. He is now an excellent player A++++!!!
9 years and he is AFL level!
Correction. He's always been AFL level.
Bullshyte. He's been great of late and we all acknowledge it, still no need to start rewriting history, fanboy.
:snidegrin Yeah whatever.
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Jet!
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#3 player in afl coaches votes, votes -> per games played this year
just behind hannerby, well behind fyfe
:shh
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Crucial two goals in the last from Titch when others were shanking theirs. Standing up in a big way this year when needed.
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:clapping
Crucial two goals in the last from Titch when others were shanking theirs. Standing up in a big way this year when needed.
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If he missed, gws could hae realistic won
Clutch
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Hadn't seen a goal like that out of the centre since lids against the dogs quite a while ago
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One of my fave Tigers now.
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Hadn't seen a goal like that out of the centre since lids against the dogs quite a while ago
Great to see him burn Steele who isn't slow. I forget that he has good pace sometimes because he does so much of his work in close.
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The goal from the middle was smooth too
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Star
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Deledio, rance, jack, cotchin, Martin ... And titch
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Played well after a couple of quiet weeks. Stood up in the last. Good stuff.
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I'd say our most important player with Rance simply because he brings others into the game
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I'd say our most important player with Rance simply because he brings others into the game
Big call, Huge call but the right call. He is so important and so creative especially with hands. Great to see him run out of the middle and take it upon himself to kick a huge goal when needed most :clapping
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I'd say our most important player with Rance simply because he brings others into the game
Big call, Huge call but the right call. He is so important and so creative especially with hands. Great to see him run out of the middle and take it upon himself to kick a huge goal when needed most :clapping
Yep
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Na
He's a gun but take out lids or cotch and u stuffed
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was huge in the final qtr. What a player he's become
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Showed real poise when needed. Good game.
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Yes, going along very nicely is "our Shane".... :snidegrin
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He's become a real weapon for us this year. It works well that he doesn't cop the hard tags that Cotch/Lids/Martin does but to his credit he is probably aware of this so he is usually quite damaging when he has ball in hand.
that burst out of the middle was nothing short of sensational
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Good to see the love. :)
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Some of us have rated this bloke for a while. He's been playing great footy for years. Just wish the media would keep it hush hush so he doesn't end up copping tags.
This blokes stands up when the team is down. Master extractor of the ball!
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Good to see the love. :)
Well earnt :thumbsup
Has great hands and good to see him hitting the scoreboard
Can still see him taking his game a little further though
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Can sometimes be too unselfish, has had chances to score but instead dishes off to someone under the pump. Has the talent to score more often, his goal from the centre clearance in the last was indication of what this guy is capable of.
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bursting out of the centre kicking loooong goals now. This guy just keeps getting me excited.
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He's become a real weapon for us this year. It works well that he doesn't cop the hard tags that Cotch/Lids/Martin does but to his credit he is probably aware of this so he is usually quite damaging when he has ball in hand.
that burst out of the middle was nothing short of sensational
Hold up, there's only one weapon at Tigerland. I would call Titch more of a utensil than a weapon. A utensil is always utilized & is a regular part of the daily/weekly regime.
A weapon you bring out only on special occasions when absolutely necessary ie. finals.
Our weapon is coming on nicely slow roasting in the oven of rehab and reserves footy. We will bring him out just when the time is right.
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Sub on grand final day
Wins the norm smith
Build knights a statue bronze outside g
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'Titch' Edwards still doesn't get the recognition he deserves
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
July 6, 2015
Richmond has its quartet of stars, and they deservedly attract plenty of attention. Captain Trent Cotchin, midfielder Dustin Martin, goalkicker Jack Riewoldt and defender Alex Rance take many of the Tiger headlines. All four were again important in the Tigers' come-from-behind win over Greater Western Sydney on Saturday, as was another consistent Richmond player who doesn't quite get the recognition his performances warrant. Edwards had 24 disposals and kicked two goals against the Giants, and gave the club some zip even though they were a bit flat at stages of he sloppy and slippery contest. Edwards may continue to fly under the radar externally, but inside the Tigers he is extremely highly regarded.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-05/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-14
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I love Titch, however, it wouldn't surprise me if he in fact became overrated due to everyone saying how underrated he is.
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Ha!
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Very average today. Back to his worst. He can't afford to dish that crap up after he has supposedly reached the "elite" level. 8 possessions and no goals just doesn't cut it, particularly in finals.
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holding the ball ffs
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Very average today. Back to his worst. He can't afford to dish that crap up after he has supposedly reached the "elite" level. 8 possessions and no goals just doesn't cut it, particularly in finals.
He did kick a goal in the second from a 50 metre penalty.
In a final 8 posessions is woeful.
Had lots of nowhere mates today.
Another downhill skier on our list who does well when those around him are doing well also.
Games like today show how ineffectual he can be when other around him don't shine either.
At Hawthorn over the last few years he would have been a megastar.
Possible trade bait?
Won't happen though.
He will be integral for us next year between rounds 1-23.
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TBH has not been the same player since coming back from the broken fibula.
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Whoa!!! This kid jumped in a time machine today and wound it back to 2008!
Another squib that a hard desicion has to be made on...
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Whoa!!! This kid jumped in a time machine today and wound it back to 2008!
Another squib that a hard desicion has to be made on...
After today you can add another 18 to that list. Seriously he has been elite for 2 years now. He is far from the problem.
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Whoa!!! This kid jumped in a time machine today and wound it back to 2008!
Another squib that a hard desicion has to be made on...
After today you can add another 18 to that list. Seriously he has been elite for 2 years now. He is far from the problem.
True, he certainly looked underdone.
Just had to many of out A graders go missing today, Titch certainly wasn't alone..
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Another one who had his worst game of the year
Reckon we could say it about all but 6 or 7
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TBH has not been the same player since coming back from the broken fibula.
I'm bit doctor
But how does one play after a broken leg in two weeks?
Seems unnatural
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TBH has not been the same player since coming back from the broken fibula.
I'm bit doctor
But how does one play after a broken leg in two weeks?
Seems unnatural
He had ~6 weeks off which is pretty much normal. Fibula doesn't bear any significant weight (the tibia does this) so damage to the bone isn't as consequential when compared to other bones that bear a lot of weight or have a lot of movement
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Just a flesh wound
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Important part of the side
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Important part of the side
More than that, he has the smartest footy brain in the team by a long long way :clapping
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Important part of the side
More than that, he has the smartest footy brain in the team by a long long way :clapping
and best hands
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Pulls the big games where required
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Pulls the big games where required
Too skinny :banghead
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Should be playing in the forward line 80% of match time and 20% midfield.
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Will form a nice little duet with Rioli... :clapping
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And yarren :shh
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Should be playing in the forward line 80% of match time and 20% midfield.
X 2
Not sure why we've played him so much in the midfield the last few years when we've been crying out for a small forward. Is a good clearance player but does his best work forward of centre. Reads the ball of the pack better than anyone at the club.
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x3
he plays mid cause he is very handy in the mid, and dimma is an idiot
its clear to see he is most valuable near the goals IMO
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I think he was our best centre clearance player last year before his injury. I guess that is why they play him there.
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yeah, but
we have miles, martin, cotchin
and no decent small forwards since Geez was a boy
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yeah, but
we have miles, martin, cotchin
and no decent small forwards since Geez was a boy
He has come a long way!
Long been a whipping boy and now we wish we had two of him. One in the middle and one up forward! ;D
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yeah, but
we have miles, martin, cotchin
and no decent small forwards since Geez was a boy
He has come a long way!
Long been a whipping boy and now we wish we had two of him. One in the middle and one up forward! ;D
Yer he is just about one of our most important players now. Adds something to our side that no one else can.
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Titch to spend more time up forward this year according to Lade today.
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Shank just kicked four goals in a match and Mr. Magic hasn't posted yet......hope he's alright....
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Lmao
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Titch to spend more time up forward this year according to Lade today.
He may just do so, but I'd to see him on the wing streaming down the pocket setting up or kicking goals. He remindsa lot like Matty Knights
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Richmond great Matthew Richardson has strongly endorsed the Tigers’ plan to use talented playmaker Shane Edwards in a more permanent forward role this season.
“We need small forwards, and we’ve addressed that area at the draft with Daniel Rioli. But you can’t expect too much of a first-year player, so I think it’s a great move if Shane can play predominantly forward.
“If he played there for the whole year, I think you could get 35-40 goals out of him, absolutely.
“I think he’ll still go into the middle and pinch-hit at the centre bounce, because we know he’s a great clearance player. But I think he needs to play forward 75 percent of the time.
“A good clearance player normally means you’re reading the play pretty well. So he can be a great crumbing player.
“Shane puts on good forward pressure as well. And, if you’re a small forward now, it’s not just about goals. You need to be able to lay tackles.
“We’ll still need him in the middle at times. It probably depends on how guys like Jacob Townsend and Andrew Moore go in the middle.
“If they can spend more time in there, it means Shane can play forward a little bit more.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-09/richo-supports-sheds-shift
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Injury hurts a lot
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Massive is what it is.
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3AW Football @3AWisfootball
Dan Richardson: 'They need further assessment. Initially Edwards scans look ok. Grigg has a thumb. Conca looks like a decent hamstring tear'
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Broken collarbone- 6-8
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Broken collarbone- 6-8
Eddies assumption
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Haven't we got a doctor amongst us to bring us up to speed?
Yellow&black wake up son
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All I hear is that it's not as bad as first thought.
Source: Twitter ;D
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:pray
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Edwards cleared of serious damage
richmondfc.com.au
March 11, 2016
Richmond small-forward Shane Edwards has been cleared of major damage to his shoulder following his early exit from last night’s NAB Challenge match against Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium.
Edwards left the game in the first quarter after hurting his shoulder, but the injury is not as severe as first thought.
X-rays last night revealed no fractures, and further scans on Friday morning indicate the 27-year-old suffered severe bruising and some nerve swelling to his left shoulder.
“Shane should recover quickly from the bruising, we’ll assess it further early next week, but at this stage we’re confident his preparation for Round 1 won’t be interrupted,” Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-11/edwards-cleared-of-serious-damage-
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:woohoo
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Haven't we got a doctor amongst us to bring us up to speed?
Yeah I already told you it was Eddies assumption (based on Dr Larkins who was at home :lol)
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Interestingly, the collar bone that was thought to be broken had been previously broken and still has a pin in it..... :shh
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Interestingly, the collar bone that was thought to be broken had been previously broken and still has a pin in it..... :shh
Vs western bulldogs at etihad?
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Edwards OK ... great!
Conca - IMO career at Richmond is over.
Grigg - good, taking up Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue and Ben Lennon's spot!
Townsend - will be a handy players and will be OK!
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Edwards OK ... great!
Conca - IMO career at Richmond is over.
Grigg - good, taking up Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue and Ben Lennon's spot!
Townsend - will be a handy players and will be OK!
Agree on all points but Townsend needs to temper his approach just a tad.
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Edwards OK ... great!
Conca - IMO career at Richmond is over.
Grigg - good, taking up Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue and Ben Lennon's spot!
Townsend - will be a handy players and will be OK!
Agree on all points but Townsend needs to temper his approach just a tad.
He's an upgrade on Morris
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Townsend is tough but at times he reminds me of Dan Jackson who everyone would remember how he used to give away careless free kicks which at times were bona fide momentum killers. I understand Townsend's role but as others have also mentioned he needs to tone it down a little and carry out his role more intelligently and not just crash and bash continually. As Dermie said during the commentary last night he has to start getting some easier outside ball along with the inside hardball, you just can't physically maintain the battering ram method he is using at the moment.
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Edwards OK ... great!
Conca - IMO career at Richmond is over.
Grigg - good, taking up Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue and Ben Lennon's spot!
Townsend - will be a handy players and will be OK!
Agree on all points but Townsend needs to temper his approach just a tad.
thats the only string hes got to his bow ...
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Townsend is tough but at times he reminds me of Dan Jackson who everyone would remember how he used to give away careless free kicks which at times were bona fide momentum killers. I understand Townsend's role but as others have also mentioned he needs to tone it down a little and carry out his role more intelligently and not just crash and bash continually. As Dermie said during the commentary last night he has to start getting some easier outside ball along with the inside hardball, you just can't physically maintain the battering ram method he is using at the moment.
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I understand he's hard, tackles well etc., however, i've seen nothing to suggest he's an upgrade on Jackson/ Tuck.
It seems he's been plugged into a role as a reactionary measure to the north EF contested ball debacle. Sure he might have helped with that issue somewhat but I don't see how him playing makes us generally any better.
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Bit early to be labelling a player..
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He's playing for Matt Thomas role
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Bit early to be labelling a player..
Seen the kid play in the NEAFL and at GWS. He is who he is.
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time will tell
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Townsend is tough but at times he reminds me of Dan Jackson who everyone would remember how he used to give away careless free kicks which at times were bona fide momentum killers. I understand Townsend's role but as others have also mentioned he needs to tone it down a little and carry out his role more intelligently and not just crash and bash continually. As Dermie said during the commentary last night he has to start getting some easier outside ball along with the inside hardball, you just can't physically maintain the battering ram method he is using at the moment.
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I understand he's hard, tackles well etc., however, i've seen nothing to suggest he's an upgrade on Jackson/ Tuck.
It seems he's been plugged into a role as a reactionary measure to the north EF contested ball debacle. Sure he might have helped with that issue somewhat but I don't see how him playing makes us generally any better.
When did Hackson or even Tuck for that matter ever really protect out midfield? Biggest myth of all about Hackson. Saw our midfiekd bullied off the park many a time while he did nothing....running to fights, jumper wrestling and gut punching direct opponents at stoppages right in front of the umpire does not an enforcer make....
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Townsend is tough but at times he reminds me of Dan Jackson who everyone would remember how he used to give away careless free kicks which at times were bona fide momentum killers. I understand Townsend's role but as others have also mentioned he needs to tone it down a little and carry out his role more intelligently and not just crash and bash continually. As Dermie said during the commentary last night he has to start getting some easier outside ball along with the inside hardball, you just can't physically maintain the battering ram method he is using at the moment.
x 2
I understand he's hard, tackles well etc., however, i've seen nothing to suggest he's an upgrade on Jackson/ Tuck.
It seems he's been plugged into a role as a reactionary measure to the north EF contested ball debacle. Sure he might have helped with that issue somewhat but I don't see how him playing makes us generally any better.
When did Hackson or even Tuck for that matter ever really protect out midfield? Biggest myth of all about Hackson. Saw our midfiekd bullied off the park many a time while he did nothing....running to fights, jumper wrestling and gut punching direct opponents at stoppages right in front of the umpire does not an enforcer make....
I don't understand needing this "protection". Ranked 4th in the league in cp's last year just had an absolute shocker in the EF. We need a lot more class/ skill IMO not more plodders who "protect".
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I agree about our skill level but you still need to shepherd and lay effective tackles....all very well to waltz through the home & away season being a flat track bully ...means stuff all if you go to water when it really matters or miss out on a double chance because you got ambushed & bashed up by the likes of Melbourne & Adelaide......we needed someone to at least start setting a tone...
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we have to set a tone...a big tone
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we have to set a tone...a big tone
Agree Petey, i am worried or current tone is "b flat"
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lured here to see how sheds was going - alas :huh
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lured here to see how sheds was going - alas :huh
No further news cub since Titch was cleared of serious injury. Dan Richardson reckons he'll still be right for round 1.
Richmond small-forward Shane Edwards has been cleared of major damage to his shoulder following his early exit from last night’s NAB Challenge match against Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium.
Edwards left the game in the first quarter after hurting his shoulder, but the injury is not as severe as first thought.
X-rays last night revealed no fractures, and further scans on Friday morning indicate the 27-year-old suffered severe bruising and some nerve swelling to his left shoulder.
“Shane should recover quickly from the bruising, we’ll assess it further early next week, but at this stage we’re confident his preparation for Round 1 won’t be interrupted,” Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-11/edwards-cleared-of-serious-damage-
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"Should recover quickly" and "we'll assess it further next week"
That's Ric code for he'll miss the first 2 or 3 rounds....
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Talented Tiger playmaker Shane Edwards was forced from the field early in the NAB 3 Challenge match after hurting his shoulder, but the injury is not as severe as first thought.
Burge confirmed that Edwards had suffered a bruised shoulder and minor nerve damage.
“It’s improved really quickly and he’s probably going to be doing some non-contact skills later this week, so I think he’ll be fine for Round 1,” Burge said.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-16/grigg-eyes-of-early-return)
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From whipping boy to almost irreplaceable.
Let's hope some others on the list can replicate this metamorphosis.
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From whipping boy to almost irreplaceable.
Let's hope some others on the list can replicate this metamorphosis.
Easy in our best ten players
Not a solider. A magician.
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Talented Tiger playmaker Shane Edwards was forced from the field early in the NAB 3 Challenge match after hurting his shoulder, but the injury is not as severe as first thought.
Burge confirmed that Edwards had suffered a bruised shoulder and minor nerve damage.
“It’s improved really quickly and he’s probably going to be doing some non-contact skills later this week, so I think he’ll be fine for Round 1,” Burge said.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-16/grigg-eyes-of-early-return)
No, surely not, really.. :huh :huh
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Shane Edwards on track for Blues opener
Travis King
afl.com.au
March 18, 2016 1:41 PM
RICHMOND'S blow of losing star recruit Chris Yarran for six weeks has been softened by the likelihood key playmaker Shane Edwards will be fit for the blockbuster season-opener against Carlton.
Yarran will be sent for surgery early next week to repair plantar fascia tissue damage in his left foot, but Edwards is on track to recover from a sore shoulder in time to face the Blues.
The 27-year-old appeared to have suffered serious damage when he left Etihad Stadium in a sling during Richmond's final NAB Challenge hit-out against Port Adelaide, however, Edwards escaped with only severe bruising and nerve swelling.
"My understanding is that he is (likely to play round one)," Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said on Friday.
"I don't think there's any long-term injury. He got a knock that flared-up some pain and inflammation and nerve issues, but our expectation is that he'll train fully next week and he'll be available."
Edwards' expected availability is a huge relief for the Tigers, who are unlikely to see Yarran until at least round six.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-18/shane-edwards-on-track-for-blues-opener
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Shane Edwards on track for Blues opener
Travis King
afl.com.au
March 18, 2016 1:41 PM
RICHMOND'S blow of losing star recruit Chris Yarran for six weeks has been softened by the likelihood key playmaker Shane Edwards will be fit for the blockbuster season-opener against Carlton.
Yarran will be sent for surgery early next week to repair plantar fascia tissue damage in his left foot, but Edwards is on track to recover from a sore shoulder in time to face the Blues.
The 27-year-old appeared to have suffered serious damage when he left Etihad Stadium in a sling during Richmond's final NAB Challenge hit-out against Port Adelaide, however, Edwards escaped with only severe bruising and nerve swelling.
"My understanding is that he is (likely to play round one)," Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said on Friday.
"I don't think there's any long-term injury. He got a knock that flared-up some pain and inflammation and nerve issues, but our expectation is that he'll train fully next week and he'll be available."
Edwards' expected availability is a huge relief for the Tigers, who are unlikely to see Yarran until at least round six.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-18/shane-edwards-on-track-for-blues-opener
I just hope this year Dimma makes sure players coming back from injury are 90/100% right to go but more importantly they have had enough of training to have some "touch" back. Nothing worse when they rush blokes back that just fumble the footy for weeks. Having a lot more depth on our list will obviously help with this too if Dimma is prepared to play kids that have good form in the twos.
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Haha. Yeah right
He loves playing them unfit
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His form in big games continues to be ordinary.
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rubbish
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Like most of his team mates he looked out of touch.
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Really? He did a few things that to me were very influential in a scrappy game.
Continues to be a massive barometer for us along with Lids and Dusty.
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His form in big games continues to be ordinary.
Correct. Goes unnoticed next to our esteemed captain but equally as dreadful in big games
Downhill skier I like to call them
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:lol
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Really? He did a few things that to me were very influential in a scrappy game.
Continues to be a massive barometer for us along with Lids and Dusty.
Agree
Thought his work in the last quarter in particular when his shoulder*** was clearly troubling him was absolutely outstanding.
*** Memo to Tiger players. Blind Freddie could see last night that the Blues made an effort to rough up Edward's shoulder and it worked as the game wore he favoured said shoulder big time. Would it be too much to ask our players to do the same thing to the opposition? Murphy was cutting us to ribbons, don't remember seeing one of our blokes going in a targeting his bung shoulders
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He was poor, however, he just missed a couple of half chances. If he capitalises on those he has a reasonable game.
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Underrated game, did a lot of good things
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Really? He did a few things that to me were very influential in a scrappy game.
Continues to be a massive barometer for us along with Lids and Dusty.
I said he was out of touch. I didn't say he didn't do anything useful. There were several occasions where an in touch Shed would have not fumbled and shot the ball out to a teammate but missed the chance. Yes, there a few pivotal moments that he willed himself onto the contest and created an opportunity. He is now a very important player in the side and so he is judged more harshly than he was 5 years ago. :thumbsup
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Really? He did a few things that to me were very influential in a scrappy game.
Continues to be a massive barometer for us along with Lids and Dusty.
I said he was out of touch. I didn't say he didn't do anything useful. There were several occasions where an in touch Shed would have not fumbled and shot the ball out to a teammate but missed the chance. Yes, there a few pivotal moments that he willed himself onto the contest and created an opportunity. He is now a very important player in the side and so he is judged more harshly than he was 5 years ago. :thumbsup
Yep. Had a couple of chances that he normally snaffles but didn't make the most of them. Given what he's capable of producing you therefore have to say he was disappointing.
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A poster on BF claiming inside word on Edwards is he has a broken hand and will miss some weeks, anyone have evidence of this?
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A poster on BF claiming inside word on Edwards is he has a broken hand and will miss some weeks, anyone have evidence of this?
Yep is going on the LTIL and they are going to promote Miles
(Which just quietly is about stuffing time)
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Underrated game, did a lot of good things
Played pretty well I recon.
Very important player, hope he can stay fit.
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Titch still has a protective glove for his injured hand:
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/04/07/427190.jpg)
Source: http://www.aflphotos.com.au/
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Titch still has a protective glove for his injured hand:
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/04/07/427190.jpg)
Source: http://www.aflphotos.com.au/
As I've mentioned before, he had a spiral break of his 4th metacarpal. That takes 6 weeks to heal properly and he had surgery around the 25th of March. The hand would still be a little swollen and sore so it is no surprise that he needs a protective glove.....
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Titch still has a protective glove for his injured hand:
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/04/07/427190.jpg)
Source: http://www.aflphotos.com.au/
As I've mentioned before, he had a spiral break of his 4th metacarpal. That takes 6 weeks to heal properly and he had surgery around the 25th of March. The hand would still be a little swollen and sore so it is no surprise that he needs a protective glove.....
Any chance you could confirm the exact terminology of the injury?
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Hang on, what's that on Shane's hand?
Has he done himself a mischief?
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Titch still has a protective glove for his injured hand:
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2016/04/07/427190.jpg)
Source: http://www.aflphotos.com.au/
As I've mentioned before, he had a spiral break of his 4th metacarpal. That takes 6 weeks to heal properly and he had surgery around the 25th of March. The hand would still be a little swollen and sore so it is no surprise that he needs a protective glove.....
Any chance you could confirm the exact terminology of the injury?
None! ;D
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Hang on, what's that on Shane's hand?
Oleg Markov.
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
lol
this reminds me of a bloke i played with years ago who told the coach he was suffering from nostalgia
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
lol
this reminds me of a bloke i played with years ago who told the coach he was suffering from nostalgia
Women's league type bloke? :lol
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Hang on, what's that on Shane's hand?
Oleg Markov.
Not Jordan McMahon?
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
Even if it's not true please spread it like it is
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
lol
this reminds me of a bloke i played with years ago who told the coach he was suffering from nostalgia
I played footy once with a bloke who missed training because one of his ancestors died.
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One bloke couldn't train because he forgot his other footy sock
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I have a bad influence he has been rushed back waaaaaay too quickly...wouldn't be the first time from RFC medicos
The Richmond way
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How was he rushed back too early when he played all of the pre season?? He was one of the main offenders on the weekend, massive shades of his old self turning the ball over.
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How was he rushed back too early when he played all of the pre season?? He was one of the main offenders on the weekend, massive shades of his old self turning the ball over.
It think that it has little to do with playing the preseason WAT. He broke a bone in his hand. It was a clean break with separation in a spiral formation. Yet in 2 weeks he is playing football in the toughest of competitions. Medically speaking, that is far too soon.
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Broken leg
- playing two weeks later
He played with a bung hand. Not as easy to handball or drop to foot
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Well then if that's the case and we want to say he came back too early then this is another example that reeks of desperation from the coach.
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Well then if that's the case and we want to say he came back too early then this is another example that reeks of desperation from the coach.
You could see it that way but I reckon Maric coming back would have been a better indicator of that but he resisted the temptation.
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Well then if that's the case and we want to say he came back too early then this is another example that reeks of desperation from the coach.
You could see it that way but I reckon Maric coming back would have been a better indicator of that but he resisted the temptation.
He has got a history of breaking Maric too
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Well then if that's the case and we want to say he came back too early then this is another example that reeks of desperation from the coach.
You could see it that way but I reckon Maric coming back would have been a better indicator of that but he resisted the temptation.
He has got a history of breaking Maric too
True
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How was he rushed back too early when he played all of the pre season?? He was one of the main offenders on the weekend, massive shades of his old self turning the ball over.
He played one full NAB challenge game and then copped a shoulder injury in the first 20 minutes of NAB 3, not sure how that is a qualifies as playing "all of the pre-season"
Then he breaks his hand in round 1
Well then if that's the case and we want to say he came back too early then this is another example that reeks of desperation from the coach.
Again with respect and believe me I have no issue with people whacking the coach but please....
The medicos (you know the supposed experts here) gave Edwards the OK to play, they told the coach and his band of assistants he was OK to play. So the coach takes their collective word for it and they picked him to play. Not sure how that "reeks of desperation from the coach".
As I said whack those (read the paid experts) who said he was right to play they are to blame here
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Well that's all good and dandy WP but you know the real experts reside on here
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Derwood left him up forward for most of the match when he was really needed more in the midfield....especially when we already had Short & Rioli up there...
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Well that's all good and dandy WP but you know the real experts reside on here
:clapping
:snidegrin
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Well that's all good and dandy WP but you know the real experts reside on here
Yes don't WE.
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Best player at the club outside rance/Cotchin/jack/lids now
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Best player at the club outside rance/Cotchin/jack/lids now
Needs to be a permanent midfielder.
Quality to good to waste.
% of time in the middle needs to increase.
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Prime trade bait.... :shh
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Mid who rests forward. Great player, long underrated...
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Not bad for a guy coming off a collarbone injury as well as fractured metacarpal.
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Prime trade bait.... :shh
Yes , for the club that gets him :(
Would be an excellent addition to a Adelaide / Norf / hawthorn
Trade dusty instead :whistle
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You have to give to get....or do you think just offering the likes of B.Ellis, Vickery & Conca is going to get it all done for us? Would you rather trade Deledio, Riewoldt, Cotchin & Rance?
Martin just needs a better coach - whether that's here or somewhere else is up to us..... :shh
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And good and yet vague question
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Vickery and Griff would easily get us second rounders if that's what you want. Teams pay overs for KPP.
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Do it
Get Zac Clarke and Hurley free
:whistle
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Edwards is .. what Richard tambling should of been
:o
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Should be playing more time in the midfield now.
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Edwards easily in our top 6
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Edwards easily in our top 6
At the moment, with his form coming back he'd almost be top 2….. :shh
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Easily the best of our expendable players....
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Easily the best of our expendable players....
He's not expendable, he will eventually win us a final. You don't trade that.
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Easily the best of our expendable players....
He's not expendable, he will eventually win us a final.
Yes he is and we won't even get to another final if we don't start being serious & professional at the trade table.
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How has his form been the past three finals
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Easily the best of our expendable players....
he will eventually win us a final.
Fourth time lucky?
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How has his form been the past three finals
The last one was coming off a broken leg ffs
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if your on the paddock.................
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Then you are a free range chicken ?
It's nice to a strong belief in things. Like if you playing you should be good to go. The reality however it's hard to play football straight after a broken leg, or so I am going to guess. More so to return to top ten players in the league standard , of preinjury. As voted by the afl coaches
Another is not resting players and expecting that to not have a impact on the following game. Against the team that rested it's best dozen... It's all well and good to pretend it doesn't make a difference cause pagan said so once in the 70s... Doesn't make it true however
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Pfft...Fyfe plays with broken legs and gets more touches....
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Then you are a free range chicken ?
It's nice to a strong belief in things. Like if you playing you should be good to go. The reality however it's hard to play football straight after a broken leg, or so I am going to guess. More so to return to top ten players in the league standard , of preinjury. As voted by the afl coaches
Another is not resting players and expecting that to not have a impact on the following game. Against the team that rested it's best dozen... It's all well and good to pretend it doesn't make a difference cause pagan said so once in the 70s... Doesn't make it true however
Well it was a no excuse year last year but putting that aside, any excuses for the other two years?
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Vickery and Griff would easily get us second rounders if that's what you want. Teams pay overs for KPP.
Don't think Griff would anymore :-\
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
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Vickery and Griff would easily get us second rounders if that's what you want. Teams pay overs for KPP.
Don't think Griff would anymore :-\
Honestly we should just shed off all the dead weight we have in these areas.
Vickery (2nd round), Griff (3rd?), Astbury (3rd?).
Get whatever picks we can, then trade them to clubs with academies who need more points for the bidding system. We could pick up higher picks in the draft with a lower 'cumulative point value' as we saw lots of such trading done last year but were conspicuously inactive ourselves...
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Pfft...Fyfe plays with broken legs and gets more touches....
Yeah , but he's the best player in the game
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Vickery and Griff would easily get us second rounders if that's what you want. Teams pay overs for KPP.
Don't think Griff would anymore :-\
Honestly we should just shed off all the dead weight we have in these areas.
Vickery (2nd round), Griff (3rd?), Astbury (3rd?).
Get whatever picks we can, then trade them to clubs with academies who need more points for the bidding system. We could pick up higher picks in the draft with a lower 'cumulative point value' as we saw lots of such trading done last year but were conspicuously inactive ourselves...
yep, like our gamestyle this year, we were caught with our pants down last trading period.
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
Griff can't even get a game for us and we are putrid.
A second rounder would be the trade of the century by us.
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
You really do rate old GRIFF. Atm he is worthless cmon mate if you were watching opposition player at a different club and needed a tall fwd would you even enquire and if you did what would you offer.
Tall or not he has little value.
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
You really do rate old GRIFF. Atm he is worthless cmon mate if you were watching opposition player at a different club and needed a tall fwd would you even enquire and if you did what would you offer.
Tall or not he has little value.
No laughing boy, I don't rate him at all...but talls get overs....a dud like Stanley got pick 21 ffs...and Geelong weren't nearly as desperate as the clubs I mentioned....
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
You really do rate old GRIFF. Atm he is worthless cmon mate if you were watching opposition player at a different club and needed a tall fwd would you even enquire and if you did what would you offer.
Tall or not he has little value.
No laughing boy, I don't stuffing rate him at all...but talls get overs....a dud like Stanley got pick 21 ffs...and Geelong weren't nearly as desperate as the clubs I mentioned....
LOL LOL LOL Only talls that show something get overs.Please tell what is it about Stanley that has you so upset. Statistically not a huge difference but in out put competetiveness and ability to play a role Stanly poos all over him.And please dont read that as an endorsement of Stanley, but i tell ya what he would be a big upgrade on on Griff and Vickery,
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Stanley was rubbish before traded
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Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane if Leppa is still there....Port if Schulz retires....
You really do rate old GRIFF. Atm he is worthless cmon mate if you were watching opposition player at a different club and needed a tall fwd would you even enquire and if you did what would you offer.
Tall or not he has little value.
No laughing boy, I don't stuffing rate him at all...but talls get overs....a dud like Stanley got pick 21 ffs...and Geelong weren't nearly as desperate as the clubs I mentioned....
LOL LOL LOL Only talls that show something get overs.Please tell what is it about Stanley that has you so upset. Statistically not a huge difference but in out put competetiveness and ability to play a role Stanly poos all over him.And please dont read that as an endorsement of Stanley, but i tell ya what he would be a big upgrade on on Griff and Vickery,
"upset " about Stanley ha ha hardly chuckles......he was the spud of all spuds at St. Kilda....their supporters used joke about him like we do Hamspud.....seriously, take a deep breath, stop projecting and swinging blindly at everybody...
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BTW ....whether we get overs for the likes of Griffiths or not, people need to realise that accumulating picks of any kind could also be quite handy with the new academy & f/s bidding system.... :shh
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You have to give to get....or do you think just offering the likes of B.Ellis, Vickery & Conca is going to get it all done for us? Would you rather trade Deledio, Riewoldt, Cotchin & Rance?
Martin just needs a better coach - whether that's here or somewhere else is up to us..... :shh
In a theoretical vacuum of space Edwards is less valuable than our best four players
But in th real world, given our lack on pace, skill, 'xfactor', winning clearnaces and several other things, due to a unbalanced list, the departure of Edwards would be a serious hit
Why not go the whole hog and trade titch and the other better players? You have to give to get
I am skeptical we are a far stronger chane at a flag by trading Edwards in the short or mid term
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Stanley was rubbish before traded
Don't reckon he was
Had a few injuries that held him back but was thought of highly thus got a second chance
Is super quick
Reckon he could be a very good player if injury free
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if they had any brains at all, which i highly doubt they have they would trade this bum along with ellis and let vickery go to whoever wants him.
with a bottom 4 finish you look at 4 picks inside 20.
If they retain the services of francis hackson and his mates then disregard the previous comment as it wouldnt matter how many picks they get.
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if they had any brains at all, which i highly doubt they have they would trade this bum along with ellis and let vickery go to whoever wants him.
with a bottom 4 finish you look at 4 picks inside 20.
If they retain the services of francis hackson and his mates then disregard the previous comment as it wouldnt matter how many picks they get.
Off the mark calling him a bum. Way off.
I'm not saying don't trade him and you clearly think he is worth a decent pick, so he ain't a bum.
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their all bums to me now mate, except hampson
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their all bums to me now mate, except hampson
:lol
:cheers
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if they had any brains at all, which i highly doubt they have they would trade this bum along with ellis and let vickery go to whoever wants him.
with a bottom 4 finish you look at 4 picks inside 20.
How the stuff do we get four picks inside 20
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Deledio.........Tambling, Meyer & Polo. Good times, good times.... :gotigers
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their all bums to me now mate, except hampson
Just needs a few tweaks she'll be right
Ask claw
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maybe angus wants to tweak their bums?
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Twerk *
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Are we going to hear how this little intro is still injured or is he going to actually do something
His got to wake up FFS
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Cue WAT
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Playing a low percentage game at the moment. He is trying to get the ball on the fly and anticipating where the ball will be. Of course the ball when out of form goes the other direction and his direct opponent simply holds his ground and gets the clearance. Looks brilliant when it comes off but its just gifting the ball to the opposition.
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
You want to talk about Edwards when we have the following running around-
Houli
your man BEllis- how is he traveling?????
Grigg
Chaplin
Batchelor.....
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Chaplin Grigg
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B Ellis soft
Houli even softer
Chaplin just rubbish now.....
How can we win with such a handicap?
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
good player is edwards
not the problem look again
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
You want to talk about Edwards when we have the following running around-
Houli
your man BEllis- how is he traveling?????
Grigg
Chaplin
Batchelor.....
Turn it up, his one of the so called better players and most weeks this year does SFA and in previous years doesn't stand up when it's time to.
I would argue Houli and Ellis have played better games than him this year and that's saying something
Besides I'm not talking about those players in talking about the intro.
As a whole his career has been unflattering in my opinion and I would certainly trade this bum not lids.
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
good player is edwards
not the problem look again
You're actually worse than Hardwick at playing favourites
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Cue WAT
Well this is his 10th year isnt it, at least he played well last year..
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Bla bla bla lozz nothing brilliant about this guy in 2016. Let's be honest here if people are going to whack Cotchin, then bring this overrated intro into the discussion
good player is edwards
not the problem look again
You're actually worse than Hardwick at playing favourites
yet i favor people who are talented as opposed to list blocking hacks
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Are we going to hear how this little intro is still injured or is he going to actually do something
His got to wake up FFS
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Are we going to hear how this little intro is still injured or is he going to actually do something
His got to wake up FFS
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Great game for the first time this year.,
Let's see it again?
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Played particularly well in the last. A few early mistakes and turnovers early cost us though, needs to sort that out.
Overall a very good game. :clapping
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Are we going to hear how this little intro is still injured or is he going to actually do something
His got to wake up FFS
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Great game for the first time this year.,
Let's see it again?
He's been ok this year
Not the problem
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Played particularly well in the last. A few early mistakes and turnovers early cost us though, needs to sort that out.
Overall a very good game. :clapping
Agree with you WAT. Was great in the last and stood up when needed. :clapping
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Played particularly well in the last. A few early mistakes and turnovers early cost us though, needs to sort that out.
Overall a very good game. :clapping
Agree with you WAT. Was great in the last and stood up when needed. :clapping
Another one that has improved his game over the years despite being under a restrictive coaching regime.
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Last night was classic Edwards and why I'll never rate him as highly as others - for the first quarter and a half he, along with Martin & Zaharakis, looked a class above everyone else in attack...but then we got the other Shane....the fumbly, thinks he's Cyril, spend-it-before-he-gets-it, five-touch player that is Shank...even treated us to his classic worm burners....and he can't stick a tackle to save his life, if the AFL kept stats for missed tackles, he surely would be leading the comp...by a considerable margin.....
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Deadset gun
:cheers
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For someone who is clearly very talented his foot skills are shocking. Also bombs away a lot with the footy. Solid player but overrated internally.
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Last night was classic Edwards and why I'll never rate him as highly as others - for the first quarter and a half he, along with Martin & Zaharakis, looked a class above everyone else in attack...but then we got the other Shane....the fumbly, thinks he's Cyril, spend-it-before-he-gets-it, five-touch player that is Shank...even treated us to his classic worm burners....and he can't stick a tackle to save his life, if the AFL kept stats for missed tackles, he surely would be leading the comp...by a considerable margin.....
Too be fair i haven't seen a shank for a few years, however that one was a good one
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Few years?
You must not go to many games then
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For comparison, martin kicked so badly in the 1st q he had negative meters gained
Titch is not perfect yet easy in the best 5-10 players at club
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For comparison, martin kicked so badly in the 1st q he had negative meters gained
Titch is not perfect yet easy in the best 5-10 players at club
Spot on
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Agree - easily our best expendable player.
For comparison, martin kicked so badly in the 1st q he had negative meters gained
How often does he kick that badly? Was still massive in the contests.
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TBH I thought when the game was there to be won, he was huge.
Interesting how others look at it.
The real litmus test is next week and other games against good opposition that count. If he is insignificant like he was in the EF then I'd be happy to trade but if he steps up to the plate in significant games for us, I'd rather keep. We've put up with his development for so many years, I'd hate to give him up now for a speculative pick if he has finally turned the corner.
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I think he's kicking has improved dramatically. Last night was terrible in regards to how many shanks he did but I feel like he's done well to limit the amount he does it. Prone to a few here and there but hasn't been the merchant he has been in years past
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Agree - easily our best expendable player.
For comparison, martin kicked so badly in the 1st q he had negative meters gained
How often does he kick that badly? Was still massive in the contests.
Dusty often has patches of games when his kicking goes to crap
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I used to be a massive critic of Sheds but he has developed into a very handy player for us. He was our leading AFLCA vote getter for a good part of the first half of the 2015 season. His broken fibula was probably causing more trouble than the club was letting on.
Now that he's over come his collarbone and leg injuries, I actually think he has been quite servicable of late.
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I used to be a massive critic of Sheds but he has developed into a very handy player for us. He was our leading AFLCA vote getter for a good part of the first half of the 2015 season. His broken fibula was probably causing more trouble than the club was letting on.
Now that he's over come his collarbone and leg injuries, I actually think he has been quite servicable of late.
Top 10 in afl for some time
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...which will give him peak currency..... :shh
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...which will give him peak currency..... :shh
Won't happen though although I agree to some extent. Could get us one of the guns from GWS, maybe even be involved in the Prestia deal...
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He said Titch is better
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Agree - easily our best expendable player.
For comparison, martin kicked so badly in the 1st q he had negative meters gained
How often does he kick that badly? Was still massive in the contests.
Dusty often has patches of games when his kicking goes to crap
We can thank Dumma's game plan of overemphasising the need for controlled possesion with the use methodical ball movement thus the resultant proliferation of the dinky20 metre special.
I'm fairly certain that Dustys errors are made when his natural inclination to pinpoint a pass to the chest of a teammate 40-60 metres away suddenly collide with the indoctrination of "The Richmond Way".
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Why I am skeptic Edwards is "expendable"
- Good at crumbling. Richmond, generally terrible at this
- Skilful, elusive, silky "
- beautiful hands. "
- creative. "
- X factor. "
- speed. "
- can play forward successfully.
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Which all equals prime trade value*
*providing potential suitors ignore the fumbling, shanks &wormburners, missed tackles, three shyte finals performances, one-sidedness/Heskey turning circle.
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Fumbling? Generally exceptional hands in most aspects of the game IMHO Greg Williams like ...
Shanks, yes but for mine Is a good kick overall. Good kick for goal too important for a forward
Tackles well at times. Example the first five seconds last match
This no turnin circle business is somewhat exaggerated. Compare with boaty mcboat face troy Chaplin
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Think of the diversity too
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His good hands are more in relation to his quick hand passing....he often fumbles when trying to gather the ball ...he'll even fumble when just carrying the ball or shaping to kick....gets ahead of himself..... you can't say, on balance, that he's a one touch player...
When Rioli's tearing it up 2-3 years from now with one or two of Prestia/O'Meara/Crouch/Steele/Tomlinson/Hartlett feeding him the ball, no-one will care that we traded Edwards.
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Personally I don't consider Edwards expendable. Absolute keeper and real X-factor player for me...
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Our team at worse suffers from a slow, predictable, stagnant brand of football and people want to trade away one of the few fast, creative players on our list?
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When he's not in the team we struggle to win (X factor), he is the play maker , Shane can do the unexpected that often leads to a goal. His shanks are often because he trying to pin point a pass in a crowded defensive zone.
To me trading Edwards would be equal with trading Rance
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Ive been a big shane edwards critic until recent times - what do people think we'd get for him? we wouldnt get a top 10 pick. more likely around the 20 mark which is unders for him, hes a borderline a grader for us now and that wouldnt be reflected in the compensation we'd receive for a trade so i say no
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"equal with tradng Rance" haha stuff me....if that's what people seriously think then he's gone from being one of our most underrated players to by far our most overrated....
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Equal to dusty :shh
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I'll presume the :shh means "don't wake him...."
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Only player we've had in a long time that hits the front of the pack at pace to get the crumbs.
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His good hands are more in relation to his quick hand passing....he often fumbles when trying to gather the ball ...he'll even fumble when just carrying the ball or shaping to kick....gets ahead of himself..... you can't say, on balance, that he's a one touch player...
When Rioli's tearing it up 2-3 years from now with one or two of Prestia/O'Meara/Crouch/Steele/Tomlinson/Hartlett feeding him the ball, no-one will care that we traded Edwards.
Prestia is overrated. Lol 161 cm
Omeara could cheap injuries, ditto out of favor. crouch Tomlinson
Edwards will only be 29 in two years. Could keep on getting better like betts. Edwards and rioli are a handful now never mind three years time.
Edwards rioli deledio Cotchin jack is a dynamic forward line
For every fumble is a few moments of brilliance. He's got a tool set not many of the da slow plodders on the list cannot replicate. When he's been had injuries, Richmond noticeable misses him IMO
Long live titch
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Prestia is overrated. Lol 161 cm
How'd you get 161cm?
Find it rich you don't rate Prestia but think Edwards is untouchable.
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Wiki
I don't think Edwards is untouchable.
I just don't rate mini wog as highly as others
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Wiki
I don't think Edwards is untouchable.
I just don't rate mini wog as highly as others
You'd rate him if he played for us. :shh
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Wiki
I don't think Edwards is untouchable.
I just don't rate mini wog as highly as others
Liar, wiki says 175cm. Only slightly shorter than Miles
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Edwards plays for us and I rate him :shh
It says 161 on my Wikipedia princess
I am shocked wiki is incorrect about something
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Edwards plays for us and I rate him :shh
It says 161 on my Wikipedia princess
I am shocked wiki is incorrect about something
More specifically, if Prestia played for us, you'd rate him. :shh
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I'm sure I would
I watch grigg Morris Houli every week
It's not beyond the realms of possibility to have Edwards and Prestia on the same list
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I'm sure I would
I watch grigg Morris Houli every week
You forgot your favourite, Chaplin! :lol
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We love Tiger Titch, what star , a champion bloke . We are so proud he's our Tiger man!!!!!!
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Would trade him in a heart beat. Want to change the culture get rid of those who regularly fail when most needed.
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Another big game performance by the quiet achiever
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Trade.
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Some on here get sucked in by his big game performances against average competition
Trade
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I'm done. Trade
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He epitomises the egg analogy, it just doesn't take much effort for his shell to crack.
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Some on here get sucked in by his big game performances against average competition
Trade
Sounds like you with BEllis.
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Another big game performance by the quiet achiever
Yep - irreplaceable this bloke......
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Yep titch is the problem
Lol idiots
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Some on here get sucked in by his big game performances against average competition
Trade
Sounds like you with BEllis.
titch tears
never said he was a superstar or not replaceable like some say about this big time game 10 year player.
Nah yer right - he'll break a big match wide open one day will Shank "Unforced" Edwards aka the Nearly Gun.....one day....'coz he's got that "X-Factor" ya see......
its coming! our diesel will tear a game open soon against quality opposition.
not too far away now when he will start to tackle
Just wait and see.
I give it 9 days against the might of GC.
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Shouldn't need to tear a game open
Look at wells
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disagree. I expect it from big time players like titch.
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Surely leading the league in missed tackles....
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disagree. I expect it from big time players like titch.
Nahas looks pretty good at foot in a Norf jumper
Funny that
Surely leading the league in missed tackles....
Na mate grigg has that sorted
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Surely leading the league in missed tackles....
Na mate grigg has that sorted
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Grigg, as limited as he is, had a crack last night. Titch's tackling efforts were embarrassing.
Titch isn't the problem per se, however, Richmond fans and management/ coaches overacting mediocre players like him for the last 30 years is a part of it.
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Shane in the best again-
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Blame dimmer for having and developing such a poxxy list, although he not only sees it as depth but can afford crem on top too.
Nobody is cultivated to play to their natural strengths.
The moron wants 22 utility players (showing my age) running around, doing everything.
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Bloke has got to an age where we wont get value for money if we trade him out now. Such a shame.
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Lost count of the amount of times opposition sides just run through Edwards when coming out of our forward 50 or him & Grigg from a centre clearance....human speed humps.....
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Bloke has got to an age where we wont get value for money if we trade him out now. Such a shame.
Disagree, he'll be 28 by years end.
He's got another 3-5 years in him at least. If blokes like Goddard and Dal Santo can attract interest and good picks then I think Edwards can - however I note that he's not the same calibre of player.
If we decide to trade him he will attract plenty of attention IMO. However I'd be happy to keep him myself and just play him as a small forward...
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For how many years having we all been saying, just play Edwards as a small forward....many! Its not going to happen, If anything he will probably end up in the back pocket with the rest of them.
I say trade him, yes he has improved but he is not consistent enough and a club on the verge of a premiership may offer their late first round pick for him, something we should take.
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Has X-factor. How long has this forum been going crazy for it? Give me consistency anyday
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How did this fine intro aboriginal perform? Train the house down style?
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TRADE.
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On this we can agree. Massively overrated is old Unforced Edwards aka Fumbles McShank aka Miss Tackle....
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Had a shocker tonight, usually has clean hands but fumbled and when he did lay it off to someone it was a hospital handball or kick resulting in a turnover. In addition his awareness of the goals is very poor, should be more dangerous around goal than he is but continually misses what a class player would nail on most occasions. Agree he should be traded and could be a valuable pick up to a top 4 team who with a bigger spread of class players around him would make him a better player. Seems to have gone backwards this season although he has alot of friends there.
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On this we can agree. Massively overrated is old Unforced Edwards aka Fumbles McShank aka Miss Tackle....
:lol :rollin
Miss Tackle. :clapping
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Bloke has got to an age where we wont get value for money if we trade him out now. Such a shame.
Disagree, he'll be 28 by years end.
He's got another 3-5 years in him at least. If blokes like Goddard and Dal Santo can attract interest and good picks then I think Edwards can - however I note that he's not the same calibre of player.
If we decide to trade him he will attract plenty of attention IMO. However I'd be happy to keep him myself and just play him as a small forward...
Lol are you seriously comparing or lumping Edwards in to the same class as those two.
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Lost count of the amount of times opposition sides just run through Edwards when coming out of our forward 50 or him & Grigg from a centre clearance....human speed humps.....
That is a great analogy.Very apt. In some ways Edwards has an excuse as a very small bloke but Grigg what is his excuse.
I have laid off Edwards for awhile now just to avoid the inevitable slanging matches but not a lot has really changed over the years.
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Trade
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:lol
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Edwards has undergone the everyone says he's underrated for so long that he actually becomes overrated transformation.
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Needs to play permanent forward IMO. He has never been a big numbers gatherer so forget playing him on ball. Put him in the opposite forward pocket to Rioli and let them hunt the crumbs. Something we desperately lack.
Hardwick just try's to complicate everything.
While we are at it, play Jack deep forward and try and ISOLATED him. He will win more one on ones than just about anyone we have.
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As one of the quickest players he should be a permanent forward pocket to kick goals.
He is proven to be good around packs in the forward line but the coaches do otherwise.
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Well said bigtone/tigermonk. We scream out for a good crumbing forward and we always had one in edwards and hopefully soon to be rioli. And similarly we scream for a big bodied protector/enforcer like tuck and we have one in vlastuin but instead we recruit townsend and moore.
Classic case of Hardwick trying to reinvent the wheel.
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Bloke has got to an age where we wont get value for money if we trade him out now. Such a shame.
Disagree, he'll be 28 by years end.
He's got another 3-5 years in him at least. If blokes like Goddard and Dal Santo can attract interest and good picks then I think Edwards can - however I note that he's not the same calibre of player.
If we decide to trade him he will attract plenty of attention IMO. However I'd be happy to keep him myself and just play him as a small forward...
Lol are you seriously comparing or lumping Edwards in to the same class as those two.
To answer your question - no I'm not!
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The tackling thing is fairly annoying ...
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He's a touch/confidence player. The last thing you want with these sort is rotting away in the forweard line while the ball spends most of the time in our defensive half.
The only time he looked like having any impact Friday was when he went on the ball and did what our others couldnt, get his hands on the pill first.
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I think unfortunately like the rest of the team have become a bunch of Prima donnas with all the adulation theyve got from the tiger army and reckon they've done their jobs.
So far ahead of themselves it's not funny.
Need a serious boot camp and a few kicks up the Rs
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Wonder if he is carrying an injury, looks slow, getting caught a lot, disposal is very average..
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Wonder if he is carrying an injury, looks slow, getting caught a lot, disposal is very average..
At any other club he would have been dropped long ago. Injured or not his a disgrace in the side & pulling the team down with him. Must make way for another fitter player
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Reckon VFL next week
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Reckon VFL next week
Protected species, wont get dropped.
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Reckon VFL next week
Protected species, wont get dropped.
Might be gone
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Trade
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Not a great season
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Reckon VFL next week
Protected species, wont get dropped.
Correct
Agree with WAT, ny first thought was; was he injured?
Thought he was extremely poor
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
I wouldn't call him an average footballer as his best is elite. I'd call him a footballer who on average is well, average. I guess it sounds the same but is just a little different. His inconsistency is definitely his greatest weakness.
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Prime trade bait. Totally expendable. Gets ahead of himself far too often.
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Prime trade bait. Totally expendable.
Agree. Do they have the kahunas to do this though?
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We have seen the best of Titch. l believe he is being played out of position & that position is too stay up the forward line & not come down past CHF at any stage. Kick the football over his head when pushing forward & he would be the prime player to out sprint most opp back men & snag goals. Rioli on the other side doing the same with speed. Now the problem is Rioli tackles better than Titch who gets thrown around like a 10 year rag doll. So that guys & gals is a huge weakness that needs fixing.
OFF WITH HIS HEAD :snidegrin
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Edwards is shot
Wants to handball instead of kick
Gets teammates into trouble
Seeing they dropped Conca last week
Shane is next to go
Give Marcom a game
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
I wouldn't call him an average footballer as his best is elite. I'd call him a footballer who on average is well, average. I guess it sounds the same but is just a little different. His inconsistency is definitely his greatest weakness.
Dustin Martin is "elite". Edwards is very good at his best and thats about it, unfortunately we do not see his best consistently, as you have said. That maybe because he is injured, who knows. But at the moment he is not even performing at a "very good" level.
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
I wouldn't call him an average footballer as his best is elite. I'd call him a footballer who on average is well, average. I guess it sounds the same but is just a little different. His inconsistency is definitely his greatest weakness.
Dustin Martin is "elite". Edwards is very good at his best and thats about it, unfortunately we do not see his best consistently, as you have said. That maybe because he is injured, who knows. But at the moment he is not even performing at a "very good" level.
I lose track with you, are you now off the Shed bandwagon?
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
I wouldn't call him an average footballer as his best is elite. I'd call him a footballer who on average is well, average. I guess it sounds the same but is just a little different. His inconsistency is definitely his greatest weakness.
Dustin Martin is "elite". Edwards is very good at his best and thats about it, unfortunately we do not see his best consistently, as you have said. That maybe because he is injured, who knows. But at the moment he is not even performing at a "very good" level.
I lose track with you, are you now off the Shed bandwagon?
I am saying what I see, try focusing on the topic, what are your thoughts on his form, lets hear from the expert, well, one of them.
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really what more can you say. Yet another average footballer on our list.
I wouldn't call him an average footballer as his best is elite. I'd call him a footballer who on average is well, average. I guess it sounds the same but is just a little different. His inconsistency is definitely his greatest weakness.
Dustin Martin is "elite". Edwards is very good at his best and thats about it, unfortunately we do not see his best consistently, as you have said. That maybe because he is injured, who knows. But at the moment he is not even performing at a "very good" level.
I lose track with you, are you now off the Shed bandwagon?
I am saying what I see, try focusing on the topic, what are your thoughts on his form, lets hear from the expert, well, one of them.
You called?
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Stood up for Edwards a lot in previous years but he's really not doing enough atm.
Used to consider him a barometer for our club but currently I'd be happy to fish him around as trade bait...
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Edwards is shot
Wants to handball instead of kick
Gets teammates into trouble
Lmao. They all stuffn do it.
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Shane has had a year to forget....but he ain't Robinson Crusoe.
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Worth heaps :shh
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Stood up for Edwards a lot in previous years but he's really not doing enough atm.
Used to consider him a barometer for our club but currently I'd be happy to fish him around as trade bait...
Can't fish a player around who is not up to the level & has no consistency. l sad to say he is at the end of his career. A 10 year player who gave 1 year. He is on the chopping block & the club will axe him at the end of the season. They pushed better players like Matty Rogers out the door at 10 years
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Stood up for Edwards a lot in previous years but he's really not doing enough atm.
Used to consider him a barometer for our club but currently I'd be happy to fish him around as trade bait...
Can't fish a player around who is not up to the level & has no consistency. l sad to say he is at the end of his career. A 10 year player who gave 1 year. He is on the chopping block & the club will axe him at the end of the season. They pushed better players like Matty Rogers out the door at 10 years
He's not going to be delisted you
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yep thtas just a stupid thing to say
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Stood up for Edwards a lot in previous years but he's really not doing enough atm.
Used to consider him a barometer for our club but currently I'd be happy to fish him around as trade bait...
Can't fish a player around who is not up to the level & has no consistency. l sad to say he is at the end of his career. A 10 year player who gave 1 year. He is on the chopping block & the club will axe him at the end of the season. They pushed better players like Matty Rogers out the door at 10 years
He's not going to be delisted you
Lucky for us your not list manager. He often over runs the play & star jumps. Hardly dangerous in any form of the game. Tackles like Justin Berber. His opponent just does what he likes every week while Titch stays 10 metres away from him at the closet. His time is over. Let him go :banghead
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l expect a lot more from a player who has been in the system 10 years. Miles produces 10 times the amount of work effort. Stop making excuses for this under achiever. Young kid Rioli latches on tackles better than Titch. Serious he needs to go
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Trade! Trade! Trade!
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Stood up for Edwards a lot in previous years but he's really not doing enough atm.
Used to consider him a barometer for our club but currently I'd be happy to fish him around as trade bait...
Can't fish a player around who is not up to the level & has no consistency. l sad to say he is at the end of his career. A 10 year player who gave 1 year. He is on the chopping block & the club will axe him at the end of the season. They pushed better players like Matty Rogers out the door at 10 years
He's not going to be delisted you
Lucky for us your not list manager. He often over runs the play & star jumps. Hardly dangerous in any form of the game. Tackles like Justin Berber. His opponent just does what he likes every week while Titch stays 10 metres away from him at the closet. His time is over. Let him go :banghead
Youre kidding right? Delist him? He has trade value. You want to throw away a potentially decent draft pick?
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Trade! Trade! Trade!
:yep
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im forced to keep on saying it supporters defend mediocrity continually for god knows why. his game was average today that means passable.that is my opinion. ffs you would not want it drop away because then he becomes a fair dinkum liability. where is oe anyway im sure he can shed some light on those stats..
wont change my opinion of edwards either way. averge player at best whose only consistency is to go missing in games.
yes he has nice hands intight he wins his share of c/ps but at the end of the day he rarely ever does enough. 26yr old going on 27 150 plus games and we are still having debates about his worth.that initself sort of says it all imo.
Sort of sums it all up for me .
Very funny going back a few years and reading the changing opinions.
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Wtf are you on about? Youre talking about axing Edwards instead of trading him for a decent pick (throwing away a pick). So whats that got to do with that post? :huh
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Wtf are you on about? Youre talking about axing Edwards instead of trading him for a decent pick (throwing away a pick). So whats that got to do with that post? :huh
My apologies offended one.
I bought up my quote from back then as it sums up still how i think now. i will go and correct it for ya my teary eyed little friend. :whistle
By the way what gives you the idea im calling for axing him. I may have said that early on in his career but in recent years i have always thought him one we dont need and who would fetch us a decent pick.
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:lol
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He is punt road's most successful indigenous project of the modern era.
Not only will he be staying but there will be a statue of him at the MCG in future years.
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He is punt road's most successful indigenous project of the modern era.
Not only will he be staying but there will be a statue of him at the MCG in future years.
Thats freakin funny. Its funny because it really could happen that elite indiginous player Shane Edwards.Well he is elite to so many tiger supporters and thats all that matters.
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Wtf are you on about? Youre talking about axing Edwards instead of trading him for a decent pick (throwing away a pick). So whats that got to do with that post? :huh
My apologies offended one.
I bought up my quote from back then as it sums up still how i think now. i will go and correct it for ya my teary eyed little friend. :whistle
By the way what gives you the idea im calling for axing him. I may have said that early on in his career but in recent years i have always thought him one we dont need and who would fetch us a decent pick.
I have already told you to stop quoting yourself, don't make me say it again or else
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Trade! Trade! Trade!
Quality post. :thumbsup
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Trade! Trade! Trade!
Quality post. :thumbsup
:lol
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Wtf are you on about? Youre talking about axing Edwards instead of trading him for a decent pick (throwing away a pick). So whats that got to do with that post? :huh
My apologies offended one.
I bought up my quote from back then as it sums up still how i think now. i will go and correct it for ya my teary eyed little friend. :whistle
By the way what gives you the idea im calling for axing him. I may have said that early on in his career but in recent years i have always thought him one we dont need and who would fetch us a decent pick.
Not offended. Just hope youll be ok
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Trade the bum. Sick of those intros who are timid on the field
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this "intros" stuff is as funny as it gets
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how did our man go today. Ooh yeah thats right much of the same rubbish he has dished up for the majority of his career.
FHO while he is worth something
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how did our man go today. Ooh yeah thats right much of the same rubbish he has dished up for the majority of his career.
FHO while he is worth something
Agree. Trade.
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Does not seem interested and is only going at half pace, must be injured or??
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Does not seem interested and is only going at half pace, must be injured or??
Was thinking the same watching him today. or?? are you hinting he could be on the move?
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Trade to Adelaide for Brad Couch. :pray
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Does not seem interested and is only going at half pace, must be injured or??
Was thinking the same watching him today. or?? are you hinting he could be on the move?
No, just asking others thoughts on what his problem is.
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Trade to Adelaide for Brad Couch. :pray
I've been a fan of Shane's but I think both player and club need a fresh start.
Agreed now, trade to Adelaide. Not sure they are handing over Brad Couch though unfortunately.
A kid from Adelaide I do like is Mitch Grigg.
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He is done and dusted, even his sticky hands have left him, very fumbly and rarely even getting boot to ball in traffic any more. Just been another of this season's passengers and whatever we can get for him at season's end is going to be worth it in the long run. Will be a dynamic addition to a team with a fast flowing game such as the Crows, he is not suited to our stilted style of play and does appear disinterested.
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Send him over to join his mates White & Schulzs :thumbsdown
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Haul away....bound for South Australia....
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Does not seem interested and is only going at half pace, must be injured or??
Was thinking the same watching him today. or?? are you hinting he could be on the move?
No, just asking others thoughts on what his problem is.
his only problem is between the ears.
Haul away....bound for South Australia....
when does his contract run out? End of 2018 like the coach?
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Expendable
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Expendable
Very
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Well here we go again, talking about the same duds who just sit back collect their pay cheque for pretending to be an AFL footballer.
IMO you will be hard pressed to find a bigger dud than this bloke. Bag the grigg types all you like but this bloke is in a league of his own.
Averaged 18 possessions a game and not even a goal a game.
We are going places with duds like him getting contract extensions
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Well here we go again, talking about the same duds who just sit back collect their pay cheque for pretending to be an AFL footballer.
IMO you will be hard pressed to find a bigger dud than this bloke. Bag the grigg types all you like but this bloke is in a league of his own.
Averaged 18 possessions a game and not even a goal a game.
We are going places with duds like him getting contract extensions
I'm a fan but he has been terrible this year. Massive chance he will be at GWS next year playing a small forwards role.
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Expendable
Very
Agreed. Time to go
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Well here we go again, talking about the same duds who just sit back collect their pay cheque for pretending to be an AFL footballer.
IMO you will be hard pressed to find a bigger dud than this bloke. Bag the grigg types all you like but this bloke is in a league of his own.
Averaged 18 possessions a game and not even a goal a game.
We are going places with duds like him getting contract extensions
I'm a fan but he has been terrible this year. Massive chance he will be at GWS next year playing a small forwards role.
Hopefully true and can net us some great picks.
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Well here we go again, talking about the same duds who just sit back collect their pay cheque for pretending to be an AFL footballer.
IMO you will be hard pressed to find a bigger dud than this bloke. Bag the grigg types all you like but this bloke is in a league of his own.
Averaged 18 possessions a game and not even a goal a game.
We are going places with duds like him getting contract extensions
I'm a fan but he has been terrible this year. Massive chance he will be at GWS next year playing a small forwards role.
Hopefully true and can net us some great picks.
and so the skata cycle goes around again.
I would get rid of him for anything thats how low i rate his output since he was drafted, but lets be honest pick 20-30 to hackson wont deliver us much chop either.
whole joint is stuffed.
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Broken leg. Hands second only to Mitchell. X factor. Aboriginal
Stalin wanted me to pass on his excuses so there they are
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I'm a fan but he has been terrible this year. Massive chance he will be at GWS next year playing a small forwards role.
or perhaps back home in Adel
Trade will get us a 2nd rounder easily
rated very highly by a number of clubs (thankfully)
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Broken leg. Hands second only to Mitchell. X factor. Aboriginal
Stalin wanted me to pass on his excuses so there they are
:bluesbros
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I'm a fan but he has been terrible this year. Massive chance he will be at GWS next year playing a small forwards role.
or perhaps back home in Adel
Trade will get us a 2nd rounder easily
rated very highly by a number of clubs (thankfully)
Stevie. J not 100% sure he will play next year.......hello Edwards :shh
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Seen him get thrown & dumped like a rag doll yesterday. His gives no protection to others for a 10 year player he not doing anything. Maybe he needs another 10 years he might produce like Harvey after 20 years :lol
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This guy is trade currency, as should have been Houli + Grigg. Vickery and B Ellis need to go also. And Conca.
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hope the rumours are true
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Well, who would have thought we would be back at this with Edwards then...
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Please. It's swings and roundabouts with every player :lol
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Shane the hack Edwards.back to normal until his next short period where he sucks all and sundry in.
For years i have been trying to work out what it is that i dislike the most and it wasnt until i saw a slo mo of him recently that the penny dropped.
He never ever puts his body on the line (go watch for yourelves0 when going for a ball he does not body line it but regularly reaches in with his arms with his body well away from contact same goes for when he tackles.
HE HAS ONE REDEEMING FEATURE AND THAT JUST AINT ENOUGH.IT NEVER HAS BEEN.
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Let's face it. WAT has a point.
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Oldies but goodies: How your club's veterans are tracking
Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
30 January 2017
Shane Edwards has had a full pre-season and looks set to match his career-best form after having injury problems last year. He spent a lot of time in the midfield in 2016 but with Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy traded in, expect to see more of Edwards' creativity up forward.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-29/oldies-but-goodies-how-your-clubs-veterans-are-tracking
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:help
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What, you rather keep him in the middle? Please
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Rather not keep him at all. Also, are you serious??? How many times do we hear this crap about Edwards?? He has been touted as our best small forward since he joined the club but he rarely plays there.
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Rather not keep him at all. Also, are you serious??? How many times do we hear this crap about Edwards?? He has been touted as our best small forward since he joined the club but he rarely plays there.
Which is why it's possibly a good thing he's going to spend more time there. I don't think he's going to reach great heights but if we finally leave him in the forward line he's going to have his best chance
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Rather not keep him at all. Also, are you serious??? How many times do we hear this crap about Edwards?? He has been touted as our best small forward since he joined the club but he rarely plays there.
Which is why it's possibly a good thing he's going to spend more time there. I don't think he's going to reach great heights but if we finally leave him in the forward line he's going to have his best chance
Yes but we never do, that's what I am saying, every year it's the same, he is always talked about playing the forward role and he never does. It's been going on for years. I agree he needs to play there and be left there, lets hope this year he actually is. I mean how long did it take people to realise that Richo was more versatile in the wing.
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Rather not keep him at all. Also, are you serious??? How many times do we hear this crap about Edwards?? He has been touted as our best small forward since he joined the club but he rarely plays there.
Which is why it's possibly a good thing he's going to spend more time there. I don't think he's going to reach great heights but if we finally leave him in the forward line he's going to have his best chance
Yes but we never do, that's what I am saying, every year it's the same, he is always talked about playing the forward role and he never does. It's been going on for years. I agree he needs to play there and be left there, lets hope this year he actually is. I mean how long did it take people to realise that Richo was more versatile in the wing.
The problem is that as a forward he doesn't kick enough goals or even provide enough goal assists. He also had the best clearance stats of any of our mids in 2015 which is why they were forced to play him more often than they wanted in the middle.
Last year his year ended in the preseason game when he injured the nerve plexus in his left arm in an innocuous incident. Even though he recovered well he lost all confidence and was next to useless for the year. I was hoping a trade to Adelaide for a second rounder would have happened but alas he is still with us. I hope he can improve from 2015 and take his game to a new level.
:gotigers
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Oldies but goodies: How your club's veterans are tracking
Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
30 January 2017
Shane Edwards has had a full pre-season and looks set to match his career-best form after having injury problems last year. He spent a lot of time in the midfield in 2016 but with Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy traded in, expect to see more of Edwards' creativity up forward.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-29/oldies-but-goodies-how-your-clubs-veterans-are-tracking
Has he grown a ticker yet freakin softie hack.10 yrs in and still the same.
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What actually is his career best form and for how long did he sustain it?
4 weeks?
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What actually is his career best form and for how long did he sustain it?
4 weeks?
Dont ask me Magic talks him up he would know. Is he still around or is he another who just pops in now and then?
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What actually is his career best form and for how long did he sustain it?
4 weeks?
Is he still around or is he another who just pops in now and then?
Bit like yourself Claw?
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Rather not keep him at all. Also, are you serious??? How many times do we hear this crap about Edwards?? He has been touted as our best small forward since he joined the club but he rarely plays there.
Which is why it's possibly a good thing he's going to spend more time there. I don't think he's going to reach great heights but if we finally leave him in the forward line he's going to have his best chance
Yes but we never do, that's what I am saying, every year it's the same, he is always talked about playing the forward role and he never does. It's been going on for years. I agree he needs to play there and be left there, lets hope this year he actually is. I mean how long did it take people to realise that Richo was more versatile in the wing.
And yet he managed to kick 800 goals
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Former coach doubts Tigers' 'fifth star' will ever shine
Mick Stirling
Sporting News
29 June 2017
Ex-Richmond coach Terry Wallace has called out one of his former charges as being at risk of finishing his career without realising his full potential.
Wallace identified Shane Edwards as a potential star in his early days but says the 28-year-old will need to turn his fading form around quickly if he’s to leave any sort of mark on the game.
“A couple of years ago I thought he had the ability to become the fifth star at the Richmond Football Club behind Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance and Jack Riewoldt,” Wallace sain on SEN’s Hungry for Sport program on Thursday.
“He was making ground on those guys and was shaping as a shining light, but he’s just dropped off in his performance.”
Edwards has shown glimpses throughout his 195-game career and had a run of being considered ‘Richmond’s most improved player’ through the finals years of 2013-15, but has never gone to the game’s elite level.
"Maybe its niggling injuries but if the Tigers are going to have a great September campaign, he is a player that is going to have to catch up on the performance that he is putting out at the moment,” Wallace said.
Others would suggest ‘Titch’ fancies himself as a bit of a magician with the ball, and tries to make every touch inspired rather than just getting the job done.
Still, he’s a handy player to have hovering in the pack with the possibility of some real X-factor football at any given moment.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/former-coach-doubts-tigers-fifth-star-will-ever-shine-afl-richmond-shane-edwards-titch-terry-wallace/1l7gywfpl6e4f1ej9l99wqolu8
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Lets be honest ....looks a little out of place in the 200 games for Richmond club .
He was going great guns before he broke his leg in 2015 .
As for being the fifth gun - forget it .
Still definitely top 22 - bonus when he plays well .
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Last week was one of the worst games hes played for the club in a several years. Had 8 handballs 6 of them, yep 6, missed the target and they were bloody simple ones too. Dont know whats wrong with him, but time to pull the finger out
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Should've been traded out at least two years ago, probably worth 9/10ths of stuff all now.....
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Lets be honest ....looks a little out of place in the 200 games for Richmond club .
He was going great guns before he broke his leg in 2015 .
As for being the fifth gun - forget it .
Still definitely top 22 - bonus when he plays well .
Completely disagree. He cannot be considered best 22 on current output. NO WAY!!!!!
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I thought he turned a corner a couple years ago and was easily in our top 10. Reckon now he's worse than when he was a whipping boy prior to that.
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Lets be honest ....looks a little out of place in the 200 games for Richmond club .
He was going great guns before he broke his leg in 2015 .
As for being the fifth gun - forget it .
Still definitely top 22 - bonus when he plays well .
Completely disagree. He cannot be considered best 22 on current output. NO WAY!!!!!
correct.
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He means 6th star right? A couple of years ago Lids was still producing good footy
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After another pre season - Rioli will be the fifth star .
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After another pre season - Rioli will be the fifth star .
Yer he is killing it.
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Why would Wallace even bother writing this article?
IMO he was a poo coach at RFC and hearing his whining voice spouting negatives about all and sundry makes me sick.
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Why would Wallace even bother writing this article?
He didn't
A journo has taken comments he's made on the a radio program and turned it in a article
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another soft weak prick handed games on a platter for yrs on end.
Its because players like this fraud somehow manage to stay the course at richmond, lets be honest here there have been plenty, that we will never achieve a thing.
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Has had 1 maybe 2 descent years since he was drafted. lets keep him in because we dont want to hurt his feelings
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He's part of our indigenous quota :thumbsup
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More like the fifth rock......from dimmers hole
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this guy is an absolute disgrace to be nearing 200 games. A fraud is what he is.
he should resign now and walk away from the game if he actually gave a stuff about the club.
1 descent year out of 12 and he gets gifted games ahead of blokes like miles lennon who have performed at vfl level.
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Would we get a late second rounder for him?
Could see him fitting in at one of the Adelaide sides, wc or gws.
Pick in the 30s would get us into the second round of the draft
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I doubt it Dooks. Maybe a 40th pick. He just isn't performing as a 200 game small should. He's getting 17 disposals and he's 29. You could get that from a prospective 21 y.o. and they'd have upside potential
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Would we get a late second rounder for him?
Could see him fitting in at one of the Adelaide sides, wc or gws.
Pick in the 30s would get us into the second round of the draft
I actually dont care. So sick of his fraudalent behaviour on the field. Id love dimwit to do a malcolm blight on the prick and make a statement.
Hopefully thats the catalyst for the dud asking to be traded out to the tiwi islands
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Would we get a late second rounder for him?
Could see him fitting in at one of the Adelaide sides, wc or gws.
Pick in the 30s would get us into the second round of the draft
I actually dont care. So sick of his fraudalent behaviour on the field. Id love dimwit to do a malcolm blight on the prick and make a statement.
Hopefully thats the catalyst for the dud asking to be traded out to the tiwi islands
Would never do a blighty. We are too politically correct.
Feeling first, facts second.
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Don't like Wallace,but he's true on this another with his experience goes missing to much yet never dropped.
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Titch should have kicked 3 goals today. His kicking was off (disposal efficiency was just 31%).
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His disposal is very ordinary. In a seasons where nearly everyone is or has improved, Titch has gone backwards. Lucky to be in the side
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Terrible set shot for goal.
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Hasnt fired off a worm burner for a couple of years
He was always good for a handful every season
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Drop him ffs
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Terrible set shot for goal.
Are we talking about George :lol
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Terrible set shot for goal.
He should kick around the body from set shots. :pullhair
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It's Titch's 200th this weekend.
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Talented Richmond playmaker Shane Edwards will play his 200th AFL game when the Tigers clash with Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium on Saturday night.
He becomes the 27th footballer in Tigerland history to reach the 200-game milestone, and the first Indigenous player to accomplish the feat with the Club.
Edwards was Richmond’s second selection (No. 26 overall) in the 2006 National Draft, having been recruited from SANFL club North Adelaide.
Watch Shane Edwards' Under 18 highlights
At 18 years, 177 days of age, Edwards made his senior debut with the Tigers in Round 4, 2007, against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-26/edwards-chalks-up-double-century
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*golf clap*
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#shank
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
Sums it up perfectly
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
Mate. I'd go read the other thread again. Where did I stick up for Ellis? I said he was more timid than soft. Not sure if you are having trouble understanding things atm.
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
He may well be twice as good as BEllis but that dont mean hes not a dud just a lesser one.You wanna talk shirk stakes then its an even money bet in fact id prefer Ellis.
We want to win a final this yr (even though i cant see it) and hve never thought we would,!!! because next yr we will probably be back to the middle or bottom.
We rely heavily on a novel approach with a lack of talent and depth sides will work it out then what?
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
He may well be twice as good as BEllis but that dont mean hes not a dud just a lesser one.You wanna talk shirk stakes then its an even money bet in fact id prefer Ellis.
We want to win a final this yr (even though i cant see it) and hve never thought we would,!!! because next yr we will probably be back to the middle or bottom.
We rely heavily on a novel approach with a lack of talent and depth sides will work it out then what?
From the guy who thinks Grimes is soft, I find it hard to take you seriously when talk about this stuff.
But for the record the way we are playing I don't think we will win a final either. Our footy is miles away.
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
He may well be twice as good as BEllis but that dont mean hes not a dud just a lesser one.You wanna talk shirk stakes then its an even money bet in fact id prefer Ellis.
We want to win a final this yr (even though i cant see it) and hve never thought we would,!!! because next yr we will probably be back to the middle or bottom.
We rely heavily on a novel approach with a lack of talent and depth sides will work it out then what?
From the guy who thinks Grimes is soft, I find it hard to take you seriously when talk about this stuff.
But for the record the way we are playing I don't think we will win a final either. Our footy is miles away.
Grimes is soft you just dont see it.In a way there is one type of soft and then there is another type of soft.
But where does thet preclude or stop him from being brave in a lot of circumstances.???? . Fmd it is a prerequisite .
Same goes for Ellis fmd like you i hate the little prick with a vengeance because of it, but ive seen him go back with the flight of the ball on a lot of occasions so he can be unsoft for lack of a better way of saying it.But hes still a squib.
Like you i call what i see and i stick by what i see. to be honest Grimes has been very good lately in all areas so maybe he has turned a corner but you know what i will always be looking what ive ive seen over the yrs leopards never change their spots.
As for Edwards he is shocking soft lazy and actually scared of physical contact and it has always been there.You just need to look closer and you will see.When you defend blokes like this i too find it hard to take you seriously ;) but you have enough runs on the board where you do regardless.
Finally geez how much have i got right over the yrs and you cant take me seriously.Over the yrs it has been me planting the seed and most have had to join the party.Even if wrong about Grimes and im not i reckon the record is better than most peoples.
Its funny on this site you say something and 6 12 months later even yrs later people are sprouting exactly what one has said.Im not going to get everything right but just watch the hyenas when you do . they are a Bit like Ellis just in a differemt way ;)
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We need a soapbox emoticon
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We need a soapbox emoticon
We need WAT to return with a Titch he's got to scratch tribute
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Is Edwards the least influential player to join the Richmond 200 games club?
He joins Gaspar, Bowden and Newman. More at:-
http://australianfootball.com/clubs/most_games/richmond/10
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Josh Kennedy from the Swans is also playing his 200th this weekend. Was thinking there's a massive gulf between these two .
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Josh Kennedy from the Swans is also playing his 200th this weekend. Was thinking there's a massive gulf between these two .
The gulf of Carpenteria
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Josh Kennedy from the Swans is also playing his 200th this weekend. Was thinking there's a massive gulf between these two .
The gulf of Carpenteria
Exactly this. I think I saw on the AFL site that Josh Twinkle toes Kennedy played his 200th last week also? I always liked Edwards probably because he has teased with glimpses of being a great foil for our cream but man he has been a let down.
His goal assist and clean hands to Cotch Vs Lions was sensational but then 5 minutes later you see him over cook a handball.
His set shot kicking has been woeful this year also. He hasn't really been able to recapture his 2015 form following the broken fibula, collarbone and I think a metacarpal as well?
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How did this guy ever reach 200 games?
Yes, when he is good he can be very good but that happens as many times as we win finals... :banghead
In one thread you are sticking up for BEllis and in this one you are bagging Edwards.
Edwards is twice the player BEllis will ever be.
I'm looking forward to you getting behind your love child Griff again.
He may well be twice as good as BEllis but that dont mean hes not a dud just a lesser one.You wanna talk shirk stakes then its an even money bet in fact id prefer Ellis.
We want to win a final this yr (even though i cant see it) and hve never thought we would,!!! because next yr we will probably be back to the middle or bottom.
We rely heavily on a novel approach with a lack of talent and depth sides will work it out then what?
From the guy who thinks Grimes is soft, I find it hard to take you seriously when talk about this stuff.
But for the record the way we are playing I don't think we will win a final either. Our footy is miles away.
Grimes is soft you just dont see it.In a way there is one type of soft and then there is another type of soft.
But where does thet preclude or stop him from being brave in a lot of circumstances.???? . Fmd it is a prerequisite .
Same goes for Ellis fmd like you i hate the little prick with a vengeance because of it, but ive seen him go back with the flight of the ball on a lot of occasions so he can be unsoft for lack of a better way of saying it.But hes still a squib.
Like you i call what i see and i stick by what i see. to be honest Grimes has been very good lately in all areas so maybe he has turned a corner but you know what i will always be looking what ive ive seen over the yrs leopards never change their spots.
As for Edwards he is shocking soft lazy and actually scared of physical contact and it has always been there.You just need to look closer and you will see.When you defend blokes like this i too find it hard to take you seriously ;) but you have enough runs on the board where you do regardless.
Finally geez how much have i got right over the yrs and you cant take me seriously.Over the yrs it has been me planting the seed and most have had to join the party.Even if wrong about Grimes and im not i reckon the record is better than most peoples.
Its funny on this site you say something and 6 12 months later even yrs later people are sprouting exactly what one has said.Im not going to get everything right but just watch the hyenas when you do . they are a Bit like Ellis just in a differemt way ;)
(http://psihomed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/foto_parafreniya.jpg)
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Lol
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
:lol
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Finally geez how much have i got right over the yrs and you cant take me seriously.Over the yrs it has been me planting the seed and most have had to join the party.Even if wrong about Grimes and im not i reckon the record is better than most peoples.
:lol :lol :lol FMD. I think you are wrong a lot more often than you are right, especially if you ignore the obvious calls.
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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Lets go for gold peoples!
the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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Lets go for gold peoples!
the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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Lets go for gold peoples!
the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
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last 8 or so posts sums up the mentality of posters around here. yep its kindy time.
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last 8 or so posts sums up the mentality of posters around here. yep its kindy time.
The OER narcissist strikes back
We weren't laughing at you
Ffs
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Quite the case study is our claw....
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last 8 or so posts sums up the mentality of posters around here. yep its kindy time.
A bit of good clean fun clawski - sometimes its best not to take life too seriously.
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last 8 or so posts sums up the mentality of posters around here. yep its kindy time.
Gee you're soooo soft Claw....
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I suspect we are going to drop this game and the only positive is I don't believe Edwards deserves a victory. You get what you put in, and I believe this lazy soft and amateur footballer didn't deserve 20 games let alone 200
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Richmond footballer Shane Edwards says 200-game milestone has crept up on him
Reece Homfray,
The Advertiser
28 July 2017
THERE’S been a common theme to the text messages Shane Edwards has been getting as he approaches a significant AFL milestone on Saturday night.
Low-profile and unassuming yet so highly regarded internally at Tigerland, the boy from Adelaide’s north-east plays his 200th game on the Gold Coast which he admits has crept up on even him.
“I’ve had a lot of people tell me they can’t really believe I’ve played 200 games, and I can’t believe it either,” he said yesterday.
“Most of my teammates to start with, mates back home in Adelaide and some family in Darwin who have sent me some messages.
“I think they think I’m a fair bit younger than what I am (28).
“I’ve been at Richmond for 11 years now and it probably feels like five or six for most people, having started so early.
“I played a lot of games early in my career when the club was a different place, so that also helps.”
Tigerland was a different place when Edwards was drafted from North Adelaide in 2006 and he has seen it evolve.
“When I first started it was under Terry Wallace and we’re not even in the same clubrooms,” he said.
“We were old and down the bottom so they played me just to play some youth, and I know that definitely helped me early on to get a fair few games.
“Ever since Dimma (Damien Hardwick) came to Richmond we’ve really had some direction, it’s fairly obvious what we’re trying to achieve, we’re trying to play a certain way and you really know what we want out of the season, where we’re heading and what the next year has to look like.
“That helps me a lot because I know exactly what I have to do out there and I’m sure that’s kept me reasonably consistent over the last few years.”
During the week his teammates were asked what they thought of Edwards and described him as “Benjamin Button” with freakish skills who made everyone around him a better person and footballer.
When the Tigers play the Gold Coast tonight, Edwards will become Richmond’s 27th 200-game player and the club’s first indigenous player to reach the milestone.
He is very proud of his indigenous heritage on his mum’s side whose family comes from Titjikala, a community 100km south east of Alice Springs.
“We’ve got a rich history of indigenous players (at Richmond), especially the late Maurice Rioli, and I’m sure someone like Daniel Rioli who’s playing now and Shai Bolton who has just been drafted they look nothing short of 200 game players that’s for sure,” Edwards said.
“I’m much older than what they are, Nathan Drummond is the second oldest (indigenous player on the list) and he’s 20, so I feel a bit like a father figure to them.
“But it’s nice when they’re surprised at how old I actually am, so I’m doing a good job of blending in.”
Edwards was partly behind a move across the AFL in indigenous round this year to trade his normal guernsey number for 67 to commemorate 50 years since the 1967 referendum.
He said it came about after a discussion with Aaron Clark who is the director of Richmond’s Korin Gamadji Institute.
“He blurted out the idea and I was an absolute wrap for it, and eventually as the game got closer there was some media and other clubs were doing it which was awesome,” he said.
Edwards grew up in Golden Grove where he played for the Kookaburras before joining North Adelaide in the SANFL and said he was honoured to play 200 games with the one club.
“You have to be so lucky and have so much support to make it this far in your career, and I’ve just been really lucky,” he said.
“I think only Jack Riewoldt has played 200 games at our club at the moment so we’ve got a pretty short list there. We have guys from other clubs but not many who have just stayed at Richmond.
“I”m sure when I finish I’ll look back and really cherish it, but you know what the season’s like, you’re drilled into taking everything one week at a time and every single game is only worth four points.
“At the moment I’m not building it up too much but I’m sure when I finish I’ll be really grateful.”
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/richmond-footballer-shane-edwards-says-200game-milestone-has-crept-up-on-him/news-story/f85317508ac7fc7552420cda0cd58787
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'Titch' brings up the double-ton
Shane Edwards has been a mainstay of Richmond's team through thick and thin. Drafted to the club as pick No.26 back in 2006, Edwards played through the tumultuous Terry Wallace era, as well as Damien Hardwick's rocky early years. The 28-year-old flies under the radar, the smooth footballer anticipates the ball well and has a light touch when disposing of the ball. He brought his undersized teammates into the game against the Suns with well-placed kicks, finishing with 18 disposals and six tackles in game number 200.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-29/five-talking-points-gold-coast-v-richmond
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Was ok last night .
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Typical Shed, lowish disposals, a shank and some brilliant handballs
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last 8 or so posts sums up the mentality of posters around here. yep its kindy time.
C'mon Claw, thought you were in and under
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Plays better without Prestia's input
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Edwards on 3aw today said that he hates the nickname 'Titch'. They all call him 'Shedder' down at the club.
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Edwards on 3aw today said that he hates the nickname 'Titch'. They all call him 'Shedder' down at the club.
Pardon my ignorance, where did the nickname Titch come from? I didn't really follow player nicknames and such during the dark Terry Wallet days
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Edwards on 3aw today said that he hates the nickname 'Titch'. They all call him 'Shedder' down at the club.
Pardon my ignorance, where did the nickname Titch come from? I didn't really follow player nicknames and such during the dark Terry Wallet days
Robert Walls ......
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As in Robert Walls made that name for him? What does it mean? And also why has it stuck considering he prefers shedda?
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It's Northern English- mainly Yorkshire/Lancashire- slang for a small person or child.......no idea why Brunswick-born and bred Walls started using it...
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My uncle played reserves at Carlton and is nicknamed Titch due to being the size of a tall Hobbit
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Edwards on 3aw today said that he hates the nickname 'Titch'. They all call him 'Shedder' down at the club.
Pardon my ignorance, where did the nickname Titch come from? I didn't really follow player nicknames and such during the dark Terry Wallet days
Robert Walls ......
I heard it was from a former girlfriend and that is why he hates it.
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Been a bit of a meh year from Edwards - but his past couple of weeks have been terrific.
His skills last week were electric.
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Game against Hawthorn was good.
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I agree his last few games he has arced up
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I reckon Edwards kicking skills have improved over the past month . Questionable form early in the year - hitting his straps now .
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Strange sort of player, some of the things he does are sublime and not many players in the game can replicate. At the same time can have clangers that have to be seen to be believed.
Definitely his positives outweigh the negatives and the last few weeks has been the difference at times when he has opened up play with slick handpassing within major congestion which has led to multiple scoring opportunities. Should be hitting the scoreboard a little more but others are taking up that slack.
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I reckon Edwards kicking skills have improved over the past month . Questionable form early in the year - hitting his straps now .
Wonder what (if any) the hip injury early in the season has had on his kicking?
Not an excuse as such but just wondering what sort of impact a cracked hip socket would have?
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But it isn't just his kicking. Sometimes he has the most amazing hands and sometimes he misses targets by 3m. He is a strange player. I really like him and as already highlighted has definitely opened up scoring opportunities for us.
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He's an integral part of the tornado 😉😂😁
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Blake & Leppa now getting the best out of everyone..... :bow :clapping :bow
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One thing is for sure is he is shot when it comes to goal kicking. He is petrified to have a set shot at the moment.
He has massive X factor but needs to hit the scoreboard when the opportunity arises.
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I've got to admit he proved me wrong this game.
And didn't I love it. :gotigers
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He was simply brilliant last night :bow
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I've got to admit he proved me wrong this game.
And didn't I love it. :gotigers
:cheers
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What do ya know...Shank stood up in a final.....now just give us two more of those please....
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He was simply brilliant last night :bow
^^^ this another leader who stood up
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Shane Edwards says Richmond has escaped AFL's no-man’s land to launch a dream premiership assault
RICHARD EARLE,
The Advertiser
29 September 2017
HAVING endured a decade of disappointment, premiership grandeur would prove the ultimate Dreamtime at the ‘G’ for Richmond warrior Shane Edwards.
Richmond team-mate Daniel Rioli exudes indigenous royalty but Edwards will join trailblazers including Michael Long, Andrew McLeod, Michael O’Loughlin and Adam Goodes with a triumph against the odds over Adelaide.
“It is a bit of a buzz, surreal. We have to accept the hype, embrace the occasion and treat it like the other finals we have won this season,” said Edwards, son of former Central District spearhead Greg.
“Just to have family come over and be part of it is special, the whole experience in the change-rooms and build-up.”
It feels like “forever” since he arrived at Punt Road - flying so far under the radar few twigged to the heritage of Edwards, whose grandmother is from the Arunta people of Central Australia.
“It was a different time back then,” Edwards, drafted from Golden Grove in 2006, said.
“You just went about your business and no one asked you too many things. You don’t go around beating your chest when you are an 18-year-old but there is probably more support in the system now.”
Richmond failed to finish higher than ninth in Edwards’ initial six years at the club. A fall to 12th last season followed three years of straight September exits.
“It has been pretty tough at times,” concedes 206-game midfielder Edwards, at 28, the stalwart on Damien Hardwick’s list.
“It didn’t seem like it would happen for a while or even be a possibility.
“Some of the years we had where we finished fifth and went out in straight sets. You look at other teams and think what are we not doing right? We are trying our hardest. It’s just not coming.
“You do have those doubts especially after a season like last year. It was a bit of a debacle, went off the rails.”
Now, it feels like the Tigers have escaped Alcatraz.
Richmond’s been transformed by the emergence of Rioli, Dustin Martin’s elevation to Brownlow Medallist, Trent Cotchin’s inspired captaincy and Alex Rance’s defensive expertise.
The arrival midfielders Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy and ruckman Toby Nankervis was icing on the cake.
“We found ourselves in no man’s land but coming back this pre-season it was a totally different place, it was really vibrant, had fresh faces on and off the field,” said Edwards, noting the late-season impact of fellow Golden Grove school alumni and 19-year-old inside midfielder Jack Graham.
“The younger guys have matured a bit and it has all come about, pretty special. It takes a few things to fall into place like it does every year for teams.”
Rioli’s cousins Long, Cyril Rioli and uncle Maurice possess Norm Smith Medals and it’s all the genes says Edwards.
“He is from the royal family. I am 10 years older but learning off him at training, it is bit scary,” said Edwards of Daniel Rioli, who won the 2017 goal of the year gong.
Hardwick pipped Crows counterpart Don Pyke for coach of the year status. It was a stunning turnaround for the Richmond boss who narrowly escaped the axe last year.
Edwards is a rusted-on Hardwick man but knows from a decade in the industry that coaches can take time to peak. Hardwick finally has the firepower to match a revamped coaching model.
“Every year Dimma has transformed, added something, lost some other things. This year he is so relaxed, took the shackles off us offensively,” said Edwards, mentored by former Richmond skipper and dual Adelaide flag star Kane Johnson in his formative stages at Punt Road.
“He has had a vision a long time we just haven’t been able to execute it and this year we did it.”
It’s been the season where Hardwick and Martin have gone to another level with the Brownlow Medallist looming as Adelaide’s main road block to a third flag.
“He doesn’t feel like he is doing anything special when he is out there. It is just easy for him, it is poetry,” said Edwards of Martin.
“He is a deserving Brownlow winner. I was looking forward to his speech. I thought they would have some time up their sleeve!”
However, Martin can’t individually break a 37 year premiership drought and the Tigers aren’t content with making the AFL decider.
Hardwick has crafted the pressure game to go with Adelaide but the Tigers have no margin for error. Edwards noted the irresistible manner Eddie Betts and Charlie Cameron combined for seven goals in the preliminary final crush of Geelong.
“They are in some really good form, good offensively and defensively. If we let them play how they want to play they will wipe us off the park,” he said.
“We are going to chip away and grind, can’t put a foot wrong.”
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/shane-edwards-says-richmond-has-escaped-afls-nomans-land-to-launch-a-dream-premiership-assault/news-story/9cc2a2b309f7b49032f9c08fcae91520
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When the moment of truth arrived, the perpetual under-achiever over-achieved and channelled Diesel & MCleod..... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
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Yeah man, I've been disappointed with Edwards for about two years or more but he cut Adelaide to shreds. Too quick and gained a lot of metres...
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Was like a hot knife through butter.
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When the moment of truth arrived, the perpetual under-achiever over-achieved and channelled Diesel & MCleod..... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
Funny how some just rise to the occasion, I remember chance Bateman having a huge 2008 final series after being an ordinary footballer for 10 years. And then there was Shane...
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When the moment of truth arrived, the perpetual under-achiever over-achieved and channelled Diesel & MCleod..... :clapping :gotigers :clapping
Funny how some just rise to the occasion, I remember chance Bateman having a huge 2008 final series after being an ordinary footballer for 10 years. And then there was Shane...
Must be an aboriginal thing
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We had winners all over the ground but Edwards was BOG for mine :cheers
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We had winners all over the ground but Edwards was BOG for mine :cheers
thats a bit of a stretch......he was bloody good but not our best
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Wrapt for him :clapping
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Probably the best game I've seen him play but don't think he was BOG
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Watched it again...same result Shane BOG for mine :cheers
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Definitely a top 5 or 6 for me in the granny. Won’t go as far as BOG but was absolutely crucial in the second quarter getting us on top. He was instrumental transitioning us from inside to outside. I remember looking up at the scoreboard at half time I think it was and saw he was leading clearances.
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The last 15 or so pages of this thread really are a hoot. #Trade :lol
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The last 15 or so pages of this thread really are a hoot. #Trade :lol
If only WAT had the balls to admit how wrong he was instead of throwing his toys out of the cot and sulking like a baby.
All that being said still not sure if anyone would trade for him.
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The last 15 or so pages of this thread really are a hoot. #Trade :lol
If only WAT had the balls to admit how wrong he was instead of throwing his toys out of the cot and sulking like a baby.
All that being said still not sure if anyone would trade for him.
He'd be an unrestricted free agent now anyway so no real point....time to trade him was three years ago....
Gotta love it when flogs suddenly turn up again after long absences just to try and score a point....no doubt we'll also see WAT return if Hamspud has a blinder next year.....though thankfully that's about as likely as Rebel Wilson getting the cover of Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Edition, Sam Stosur getting past the second round of a home tournament & Leyton Orient winning the Champions League......
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The last 15 or so pages of this thread really are a hoot. #Trade :lol
Nice to see you back Mr M. Always enjoyed your posts.
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The last 15 or so pages of this thread really are a hoot. #Trade :lol
Nice to see you back Mr M. Always enjoyed your posts.
Cheers HRT.
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Edwards doesn't get 20 plus possessions every week but have a look at what he does when he gets it
Very very good in the GF and so was Lambert
But then again hard to say anyone wasn't doing his job throughout the Finals series
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Edwards doesn't get 20 plus possessions every week but have a look at what he does when he gets it
Very very good in the GF and so was Lambert
But then again hard to say anyone wasn't doing his job throughout the Finals series
Those handballs of Sheds out of traffic in the GF were lethal. The whole field ahead of the contest would continually just open up for us as he always hit a free receiving teammate who didn't have to change stride.
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Always had amazing hands. I think he was judged too harshly coming off the fibula fracture and hand in recent times
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Shankwards at his kicking best :shh
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Sheds on the Marngrook footy show last night:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-04-12/edwards-on-marngrook
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The bit of magic from Edwards on Sunday :clapping.
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/realkvp/status/990936093070581760
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Shane Edwards leads the AFL in score assists this season with 23 to date, 7 more than any other player in the competition.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BieXSFrlEqe/
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Shane Edwards leads the AFL in score assists this season with 23 to date, 7 more than any other player in the competition.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BieXSFrlEqe/
Yup they highlighted this on the couch last night. Great playmaker is shedda!
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Shedders, the forgotton big 4 player:
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/05/08/the-amazing-underrated-tiger-that's-a-top-15-player/
Also, dont have the link but if you can find it check out his Q&A from the Afl record on Sunday. Well worth a read 😉
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(https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft1.0-9%2F31948036_1752386234817009_4192894400323387392_n.jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D0%26oh%3D50617ec70a96c656b6fc501ffea8ea2b%26oe%3D5B8E5EA6&hash=f3a9ef81e6b0f52ee91436ef195c13d1)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/10-shane-edwards.1094255/page-41#post-55574908
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David King: "If Shane Edwards was drafted to Hawthorn, he would be compared to Cyril Rioli. He's been a misunderstood talent for a long time."
https://twitter.com/SENAfternoons/status/993684804515184640
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David King: "If Shane Edwards was drafted to Hawthorn, he would be compared to Cyril Rioli. He's been a misunderstood talent for a long time."
https://twitter.com/SENAfternoons/status/993684804515184640
:clapping so true. Edwards is elite and a key to our success no doubt. I believe he has the best hands in the business hence his goal assist numbers are through the roof! :cheers
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he really wouldn't be compared to Cyril. completely different player and not on the same level.
does have close to the best hands in the business when in close. also a great clearance player.
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I am just glad he is no longer shanking and getting rag dolled
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So Mr. Magic is David King..... :shh
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So Mr. Magic is David King..... :shh
:shh
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:shh
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Not his best game on Sunday, the usual pinpoint deadly handball wasn’t quite hitting the mark as they normally do. And that handpass in the goalsquare straight to the nth player was terrible.
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All clear from the MRP.
Contact between Richmond's Shane Edwards and West Coast's Jack Redden from the third quarter of Sunday's match was assessed. Contact was made with an open hand and was below the force required for a charge to be laid. No further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-21/match-review-full-statement-round-nine
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All clear from the MRP.
Contact between Richmond's Shane Edwards and West Coast's Jack Redden from the third quarter of Sunday's match was assessed. Contact was made with an open hand and was below the force required for a charge to be laid. No further action was taken.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-21/match-review-full-statement-round-nine
Should be banned by the RFC for making our side look like soft pricks
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/shane-edwards-is-more-than-happy-to-keep-flying-under-the-radar-with-the-tigers/news-story/da9d7dfc173870fd6d64ea9e4c83dcc9
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Star :cheers
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I dont think i have ever seen a better game by edwards
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I dont think i have ever seen a better game by edwards
I was fuming when he turned the ball over in the first 3 times in 15 seconds. That 15 seconds was just about the only thing below fantastic he dished up.
Great game. Career game for sure I reckon.
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I dont think i have ever seen a better game by edwards
Grand final wasnt far off. Isw continuing to improve and has gone up another level this year
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Shane Edwards 30 disposal effort, with seven inside 50's, 681 metres gained, 11 score involvements and four score assists, all game-high's sees him awarded the Yiooken Award as Best on Ground.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/11/ess-v-rich
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He's one of the greats of our club: Hardwick
Ben Collins
afl.com.au
Jun 2, 2018 11:48PM
PREMIERSHIP hero Shane Edwards will finish his career as a Richmond great after another blistering display on the big stage, according to coach Damien Hardwick.
Edwards finished with a game-high 31 disposals, two goals and three direct score assists in the Tigers' Dreamtime at the 'G win, to stamp himself as the competition's No.1 set-up player.
Richmond's only indigenous player in the match, Edwards did as he pleased in the second term before finishing as the runaway winner of his first Yiooken Award for best player on the ground.
"He's got one thing that makes him an incredible talent and a very underrated talent in my view, he makes those around him better.
"You look at his score assists on a weekly basis, not only this week but throughout his career.
"He'll go down as one of the greats of our footy club, I reckon.
"I've loved him ever since I got here, he's been such a terrific player for us and the club."
"It was great, I must admit when they were reading the name out I was hoping he'd get it," Hardwick said of Edwards' accolade.
One of the best in the Tigers' drought-breaking premiership last year, Edwards' ability to play one step ahead of his opponents impressed Hardwick most.
"His ability to win the ball in the contest and get it to the guy on the outside, he skips a possession in between.
"Most players would see 'that one', he sees the one, one step on. That's a credit to him and a credit to his vision of the game.
"We're fortunate to watch his 200-game highlights tape and it's just 'wow'.
"There's things he can do that other players can't and that's why he's special."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-02/hes-one-of-the-greats-of-our-club-hardwick
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1. Shedda's platter
Richmond's goal assist king Shane Edwards put in a nomination for set-up of the year as he dominated the second term. He picked up 12 disposals, three inside 50s and kicked two goals, but it was his assist to Josh Caddy nearing half-time that came from the bottom of his trick bag. Appearing to have overrun the ball, Edwards then soccer-flicked the ball to a rampaging Caddy who converted from beyond 50 metres. It helped Caddy to one of four goals for the game and Richmond to its highest first-half score of the season. Edwards then re-produced his brilliance with a smart handball for Dan Butler in the third quarter, one of three goal assists for the game. His efforts saw him win the Yiooken Award for best on ground.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-02/five-talking-points-essendon-v-richmond
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We all post things which in hindsight are utterly ridiculous and stupid .
I think I wrote once that Edwards will be the worst Richmond tiger to play 200 games .
Fair dinkum - this guy is a genius. Could win the B&F this year .
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We all post things which in hindsight are utterly ridiculous and stupid .
I think I wrote once that Edwards will be the worst Richmond tiger to play 200 games .
Fair dinkum - this guy is a genius. Could win the B&F this year .
Cant hold it too mucj against you. Took me a while to be convinced about Shedders. I actually recall a Dreamtime match, perhaps 12 or 13, where he really shone, and I was sold after that he was a genuine player.
Hes very mercurial. His best is absolute top shelf, but he has a blues as well. I think whats made him such a top player is just improving on thar ratio of class touches to shabby ones.
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Best game I've seen him play, that I can remember anyway :clapping :bow :thumbsup
He seemed to be everywhere (haven't see the game a second time just yet) and always seemed to be in control of where the ball was going and yet only had 31 possies. Brownlow votes yet again :whistle
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We all post things which in hindsight are utterly ridiculous and stupid .
I think I wrote once that Edwards will be the worst Richmond tiger to play 200 games .
Fair dinkum - this guy is a genius. Could win the B&F this year .
i think i wrote that 50 times. That game last night was as good as dusty produced last year IMO
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He’s getting better every year.
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He’s getting better every year.
Weird for a bloke of his age but you are right.
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Has always been able to produce magic. I was also critical of him in 2016 when he had a down year but then again who didn’t that season. Is a player you want to get the footy in his hands because he can make anything happen. Add in the fact he is a gun in the middle winning contested ball and clearances. Love his work!
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He was rushed back too quickly in 2016. He had a broken hand if I recall correctly and yeah he would misfire all his handballs. But now fit he finds target by hand which I just can not believe. His in close quick hands to Butler was a prime example of that
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He was rushed back too quickly in 2016. He had a broken hand if I recall correctly and yeah he would misfire all his handballs. But now fit he finds target by hand which I just can not believe. His in close quick hands to Butler was a prime example of that
Also had to deal with a fractured fibula IIRC at some point which derailed him a little.
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Scary that our recruiters got another one right :rollin
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Scary that our recruiters got another one right :rollin
Very funny WP. :lol
It’s Francis Jackson that was a useless recruiter and everyone knows it, especially every other club. :shh
As useless as FJ is, anyone can fluke some players even ol’ Betamax himself . :rollin
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If we can keep this blokes body fresh and healthy we are in for a real treat over the next 2-3 years
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Scary that our recruiters got another one right :rollin
Very funny WP. :lol
It’s Francis Jackson that was a useless recruiter and everyone knows it, especially every other club. :shh
As useless as FJ is, anyone can fluke some players even ol’ Betamax himself . :rollin
Yep there's been some poor selections but also some gems. Not sure why people can't admit that
Was just pointing out that when you look at the team, that played last night and our VFL side it would seem we have a lot of flukes (using your word) out running around these days
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Scary that our recruiters got another one right :rollin
Very funny WP. :lol
It’s Francis Jackson that was a useless recruiter and everyone knows it, especially every other club. :shh
As useless as FJ is, anyone can fluke some players even ol’ Betamax himself . :rollin
Yep there's been some poor selections but also some gems. Not sure why people can't admit that
Was just pointing out that when you look at the team, that played last night and our VFL side it would seem we have a lot of flukes (using your word) out running around these days
Maybe someone's wrong and can't see that
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Yep there's been some poor selections but also some gems. Not sure why people can't admit that
Was just pointing out that when you look at the team, that played last night and our VFL side it would seem we have a lot of flukes (using your word) out running around these days
Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally.
Prior to that our "gems" were mostly 1st or 2nd rounders.
Firsts: Riewoldt (13-2006), Cotchin (2-2007), Rance (18-2007), Martin (3-2009), Conca (6-2010), Ellis (15-2011), Vlastuin (9-2012).
Second: Edwards (26-2006), McIntosh (31-2012).
Astbury was 35 and Grimes was PSD in 2009.
Grigg and Houli were traded and PSD in 2010.
Lloyd was a late pick 66 and Miles was a rookie in 2013.
Astbury was a good pick at 35 and Grimes was a real fluke in the PSD.
Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and Miles would really be seen as mature age pickups from Hartley (much as you hate him) rather than the recruiters.
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Scary that our recruiters got another one right :rollin
Very funny WP. :lol
It’s Francis Jackson that was a useless recruiter and everyone knows it, especially every other club. :shh
As useless as FJ is, anyone can fluke some players even ol’ Betamax himself . :rollin
Yep there's been some poor selections but also some gems. Not sure why people can't admit that
Was just pointing out that when you look at the team, that played last night and our VFL side it would seem we have a lot of flukes (using your word) out running around these days
Maybe someone's wrong and can't see that
So let me get this straight, if FJ is the mastermind of our 2017 premiership team because of his brilliance in recruiting, that would make Ol’ Betamax the most sought after commodity since Stephen Wells. :lol
Funny, must be the reason he was given a promotion by our club from head of recruiting to just one of the scouts. :rollin
Even funnier is how many clubs, just like with Wells, are banging his door down to get him to come to their club to build a premiership team. :rollin
.... JON reckons hes an excellent recruiter. Apparently he is so good he only has to watch a highlights video. :rollin
But yes I’m wrong again, FJ is as good a recruiter as Choco was an excellent development coach. :lol :shh
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If you go to the beginning of any one of our guns pages you would see a whole lot of “poor selection, we shoulda picked this guy instead (insert name of player who has failed miserably).” fact of the matter is clubs are normally there or there abouts in where they rate players so when people say a few years after the draft “oh I can’t believe we took this guy at pick 5 when this clearly better player was taken at pick 20” it’s not like Richmond had him rated 15 spots above where every other club did.
And don’t know why being successful with our first round picks should be valued any less. Look at Melbourne, took them about a decade to start nailing their first rounders and Carlton well we’re still waiting for them.
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I didn't say he was the mastermind
I just find it interesting that you and others cannot give any credit for some of the picks he made
The way you carry on every single one of his selections were poor
We won a flag last year so all I'm saying is they can't all be flukes, just like they all can't be shockers or perfect selections. People whack away but refuse to give any credot for the oens they've got right
Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally.
Prior to that our "gems" were mostly 1st or 2nd rounders.
Firsts: Riewoldt (13-2006), Cotchin (2-2007), Rance (18-2007), Martin (3-2009), Conca (6-2010), Ellis (15-2011), Vlastuin (9-2012).
Second: Edwards (26-2006), McIntosh (31-2012).
Astbury was 35 and Grimes was PSD in 2009.
Grigg and Houli were traded and PSD in 2010.
Lloyd was a late pick 66 and Miles was a rookie in 2013.
Astbury was a good pick at 35 and Grimes was a real fluke in the PSD.
Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and Miles would really be seen as mature age pickups from Hartley (much as you hate him) rather than the recruiters.
So every selection from 2014 onwards (sucessful ones of course) are because of Luke Williams? The poor omes are all Jackson
So by your reckoning Castagna, Butler, Broad, Lambert are all the work of Luke Williams only? How convenient
Grigg was a trade so you are correct nothing to do with recruting. Ditto Houli we got for free in the PSD, so again not the recruiters.
Lloyd was a selection, and was a recruiters decision not Hartley.
Hartley has made some shocking decisions, Hampson says "hello"!
You say I hate Hartley (hate? No, extremely critical of some of his decisions absolutely and in hindsight on some I've been proven wrong btw) ) but an argument can be made that your's and others "hate" of Jackson means you wont acknowledge on any level that Jackson got some selections right
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You could watch 5 minutes of YouTube and get some picks right.
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Like I said even ol’ Betamax can get some right but is it not interesting that he’s been demoted and even more interesting that he’s not on the radar of any club in terms of recruitment nor ever mentioned in relation to our list and the genius of his recruiting prowess.
What he is known for is making some of the biggest recruiting howlers ever to have been made in the history of the AFL draft. No one wants him. FACT.
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I didn't say he was the mastermind
I just find it interesting that you and others cannot give any credit for some of the picks he made
The way you carry on every single one of his selections were poor
We won a flag last year so all I'm saying is they can't all be flukes, just like they all can't be shockers or perfect selections. People whack away but refuse to give any credot for the oens they've got right
Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally.
Prior to that our "gems" were mostly 1st or 2nd rounders.
Firsts: Riewoldt (13-2006), Cotchin (2-2007), Rance (18-2007), Martin (3-2009), Conca (6-2010), Ellis (15-2011), Vlastuin (9-2012).
Second: Edwards (26-2006), McIntosh (31-2012).
Astbury was 35 and Grimes was PSD in 2009.
Grigg and Houli were traded and PSD in 2010.
Lloyd was a late pick 66 and Miles was a rookie in 2013.
Astbury was a good pick at 35 and Grimes was a real fluke in the PSD.
Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and Miles would really be seen as mature age pickups from Hartley (much as you hate him) rather than the recruiters.
So every selection from 2014 onwards (sucessful ones of course) are because of Luke Williams? The poor omes are all Jackson
So by your reckoning Castagna, Butler, Broad, Lambert are all the work of Luke Williams only? How convenient
Grigg was a trade so you are correct nothing to do with recruting. Ditto Houli we got for free in the PSD, so again not the recruiters.
Lloyd was a selection, and was a recruiters decision not Hartley.
Hartley has made some shocking decisions, Hampson says "hello"!
You say I hate Hartley (hate? No, extremely critical of some of his decisions absolutely and in hindsight on some I've been proven wrong btw) ) but an argument can be made that your's and others "hate" of Jackson means you wont acknowledge on any level that Jackson got some selections right
I said "Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally."
I DID NOT say "every selection from 2014 onwards (sucessful ones of course) are because of Luke Williams".
Unless you are in the meetings of the recruitment (and List Management) you and I do not know for sure.
I have kept a list of all drafts and a separate one of all OUR selections since 2004.
In putting a red line through all those delisted you can see a whole lot of red from 2005 until 2013.
That is what I base my opinion on. The total evidence, clearly displayed in front of me.
This was pointed out a couple of years ago in an excerpt from "Inside Football".
In my previous post I pointed to Astbury as a good pick and Grimes as a fluke (or a genius) pick in 2009.
Between Astbury at 35 and Grimes in PSD we took Dea (44), Taylor (51), Webberley (67), Nason (71), Nahas (89) and Browne (94).
All the others I listed were 1st or 2nds during Jackson's tenure and ALL current players from those drafts are listed.
I would say Jackson got most of those right but.......
In 2010 we took Conca at 6 and overlooked Caddy, Heppel, Prestia, Gorringe and Tom Lynch.
To Tigeritis, Jackson was a teacher for many years and was 65 when he stepped down to the scout position.
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I love drafting debates. Best thing about footy banter.
But, really, development of players is as significant, if not more, than the actual selections.
Jackson has made some great selections, but stuffed a few up as well. Can anyone please point the AFL list that has a 100% strike rate on drafting? Every post a winner. Get over it lads! :gotigers
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I love drafting debates. Best thing about footy banter.
But, really, development of players is as significant, if not more, than the actual selections.
Jackson has made some great selections, but stuffed a few up as well. Can anyone please point the AFL list that has a 100% strike rate on drafting? Every post a winner. Get over it lads! :gotigers
Yeah, its pretty esoteric talking drafts.
Aside from development, which I agree is significant, you've also got to look at injuries.
Cotchin was picked behind his mate Kreuzer and he's had a terrible time with injury. What could he have done if he got as good a run as Trent.
Martin was picked behind Scully and Trengove. Scully left for the Giants in disgust and Trengove was crippled with injury.
Again we're back to coulda, shoulda, woulda.
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I didn't say he was the mastermind
I just find it interesting that you and others cannot give any credit for some of the picks he made
The way you carry on every single one of his selections were poor
We won a flag last year so all I'm saying is they can't all be flukes, just like they all can't be shockers or perfect selections. People whack away but refuse to give any credot for the oens they've got right
Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally.
Prior to that our "gems" were mostly 1st or 2nd rounders.
Firsts: Riewoldt (13-2006), Cotchin (2-2007), Rance (18-2007), Martin (3-2009), Conca (6-2010), Ellis (15-2011), Vlastuin (9-2012).
Second: Edwards (26-2006), McIntosh (31-2012).
Astbury was 35 and Grimes was PSD in 2009.
Grigg and Houli were traded and PSD in 2010.
Lloyd was a late pick 66 and Miles was a rookie in 2013.
Astbury was a good pick at 35 and Grimes was a real fluke in the PSD.
Grigg, Houli, Lloyd and Miles would really be seen as mature age pickups from Hartley (much as you hate him) rather than the recruiters.
So every selection from 2014 onwards (sucessful ones of course) are because of Luke Williams? The poor omes are all Jackson
So by your reckoning Castagna, Butler, Broad, Lambert are all the work of Luke Williams only? How convenient
Grigg was a trade so you are correct nothing to do with recruting. Ditto Houli we got for free in the PSD, so again not the recruiters.
Lloyd was a selection, and was a recruiters decision not Hartley.
Hartley has made some shocking decisions, Hampson says "hello"!
You say I hate Hartley (hate? No, extremely critical of some of his decisions absolutely and in hindsight on some I've been proven wrong btw) ) but an argument can be made that your's and others "hate" of Jackson means you wont acknowledge on any level that Jackson got some selections right
I said "Since Luke Williams joined in 2014 our strike rate has turned totally."
I DID NOT say "every selection from 2014 onwards (sucessful ones of course) are because of Luke Williams".
Unless you are in the meetings of the recruitment (and List Management) you and I do not know for sure.
I have kept a list of all drafts and a separate one of all OUR selections since 2004.
In putting a red line through all those delisted you can see a whole lot of red from 2005 until 2013.
That is what I base my opinion on. The total evidence, clearly displayed in front of me.
This was pointed out a couple of years ago in an excerpt from "Inside Football".
In my previous post I pointed to Astbury as a good pick and Grimes as a fluke (or a genius) pick in 2009.
Between Astbury at 35 and Grimes in PSD we took Dea (44), Taylor (51), Webberley (67), Nason (71), Nahas (89) and Browne (94).
All the others I listed were 1st or 2nds during Jackson's tenure and ALL current players from those drafts are listed.
I would say Jackson got most of those right but.......
In 2010 we took Conca at 6 and overlooked Caddy, Heppel, Prestia, Gorringe and Tom Lynch.
To Tigeritis, Jackson was a teacher for many years and was 65 when he stepped down to the scout position.
Damn you must really dislike Conca saying we messed up picking him instead of a player who played 26 games for two clubs and then retired.....
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Damn you must really dislike Conca saying we messed up picking him instead of a player who played 26 games for two clubs and then retired.....
I just knew when I gave total disclosure of all those picks that someone would pick out the ONE player who is not obviously better than Conca to try and do the usual.
Quick check of the internet eh Khosh.
Now tell me how happy you are that we paid over the odds to get Caddy and Prestia and how we'll have to put big money on the table for Lynch when we could have got any of them for nothing.
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From Robbo's "likes" column:
5. SHANE EDWARDS
His best game of the year and it was even better than his performance in the 2017 Grand Final, when Richmond people believed he could have won the Norm Smith Medal. At least after Saturday night he can no longer be ‘‘Invisible and Underrated’’ which was the headline in Saturday’s Herald Sun to describe him. He is the No. 1 score assist player in the AFL with 31 score assists — the next best player has 22. Against the Bombers it was a career-high in disposals (31) and metres gained (685). One of the all-time Tigers greats? Maybe not, but in coach Damien Hardwick’s time, few have been as important.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-tom-mcdonald-worth-big-dollars-but-tom-boyd-tom-lynch-in-mark-robinsons-dislikes-for-round-11/news-story/a09b16bd4a1b4458d3af23fccb2217ec
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Damn you must really dislike Conca saying we messed up picking him instead of a player who played 26 games for two clubs and then retired.....
I just knew when I gave total disclosure of all those picks that someone would pick out the ONE player who is not obviously better than Conca to try and do the usual.
Quick check of the internet eh Khosh.
Now tell me how happy you are that we paid over the odds to get Caddy and Prestia and how we'll have to put big money on the table for Lynch when we could have got any of them for nothing.
Didn’t really need to check the internet to know that someone’s name I havnt heard in years was retired, not sure why you would add him to the list if you knew this, may aswell have added the other 80 or so players drafted.
And also not sure why you think we paid overs for caddy, we got him with pick 24 and your saying we should have drafted him with pick 6. Same with Prestia we would have just broken even with that one although I guess you could argue we could have potentially saved some money on his salary and potentially drafted a better player than Conca with 2016s pick 6. But like I said hindsight is 20/20, if we hadn’t taken Conca no doubt he would have been picked up in the next few picks that followed.
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You could watch 5 minutes of YouTube and get some picks right.
Lol you sure about that Greg Miller never seen JON play live only video clips and picked him what a disaster :banghead.
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Before the Essendon game there was an article by Jon Anderson in the Herald Sun stating that Shane was our second greatest indigenous player after Maurice Rioli. What do people think about that?
Shane played a Fantastic game against the Bombers and deserved the award but I still think his game against Geelong in the finals and his grand final game were superior.
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His GF performance any day of the week. Not just because it was the most important game of his career but he was electric. won lots of contested ball and did his part in piling on the scoreboard pressure
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Shane Edwards is the master of little things. In fact, they are so little former coach Terry Wallace noted you need the benefit of television replays to fully appreciate the art of Edwards.
On Saturday night there was a flick kick to Josh Caddy and, with Bomber players swarming him, a look-away handball to Dan Butler. Both created Richmond goals.
Edwards finished the match with two goals, three goal assists and 12 score involvements. His brings teammates into easy situations and he was the best player in the Dreamtime blockbuster by some distance.
That made him a relatively easy selection as No. 1 in this week’s Super Rankings. Perhaps it is time to stop referring to Edwards as perennially underrated and start rating him for what he is — one of the AFL’s smartest footballers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/super-rankings/super-rankings-shane-edwards-the-no1-player-for-round-11/news-story/975211702d8ec46ee43d81cdbec5a3b3
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Before the Essendon game there was an article by Jon Anderson in the Herald Sun stating that Shane was our second greatest indigenous player after Maurice Rioli. What do people think about that?
Shane played a Fantastic game against the Bombers and deserved the award but I still think his game against Geelong in the finals and his grand final game were superior.
Yep...my view is he was BOG in the Grand Final. Electric!
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Before the Essendon game there was an article by Jon Anderson in the Herald Sun stating that Shane was our second greatest indigenous player after Maurice Rioli. What do people think about that?
Shane played a Fantastic game against the Bombers and deserved the award but I still think his game against Geelong in the finals and his grand final game were superior.
Yep...my view is he was BOG in the Grand Final. Electric!
Best Indigenous player of my generation.
Love the Shedder!
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The game's most underrated player?
It's the question without an answer, but Richmond premiership star Shane Edwards is certainly in the endless discussion.
Edwards won the Yiooken Award for best player afield in the Tigers' landslide Dreamtime at the 'G win over Essendon on Saturday night.
He was a deserving winner after racking up game highs of 30 disposals, 11 score involvements, seven inside 50s, four score assists and 681 metres gained.
No-one who played more than three games is averaging better than Edwards' 1.3 goal assists since the start of last year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-05/the-stats-files-the-three-keys-to-winning-games-in-2018
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Dimma after the game compared to Sheds to Shaun Burgoyne (who Dimma played alongside at Port). He said Edwards won't get the full recognition from the footy public he deserves until he is closer to the end of his footy career like Burgoyne is now.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if he was leading our b&f at this stage
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For mine he was BOG today, short half head ahead of Floss.
How good are his hands and sidestep??
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Shane Edwards now flying above the radar
It’s almost as if the entire AFL football world has finally caught on to just how talented and influential Edwards is. He’s delivered some dazzling displays this season, with the highlight being his piping-hot form in the Round 11 Dreamtime game against Essendon. Won the Yiooken award that night after racking up an AFL career-high 31 disposals and producing some truly brilliant passages of play.
Averages 19.3 disposals, 4.0 inside-50s and 2.9 clearances per game in his high half-forward/midfield role for the Tigers.
Is the top-ranked player in the competition for goal assists and seventh for score involvements.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-24/midseason-tiger-talking-points
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Very similar game for Sheds last night to the GF. That second quarter of his was pure silk. One moment he'd be in traffic gathering the ball before a quick turn and he'd be out drilling handballs and passes to free teammates on the burst without having to change stride :clapping.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhesB9jUwAAinuS.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1015469424113881094
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Jet! :bow
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He is pure silk . Gun .
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yeah he is a gun and i apologise for anything i ever said bad about his efforts, even though prior to 2016 i thought he was average
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yeah he is a gun and i apologise for anything i ever said bad about his efforts, even though prior to 2016 i thought he was average
Rate that mate
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yeah he is a gun and i apologise for anything i ever said bad about his efforts, even though prior to 2016 i thought he was average
X 2
Only seen one shank in two years
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Makes time stand still... :shh
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The talented playmaker is averaging an AFL career-high 20.2 disposals per match and is ranked No. 1 in the competition for goal assists and No. 5 for score involvements.
But those ‘stats’ alone don’t do justice to the brilliant passages of play that Edwards has managed to produce on such a regular basis – the lightning quick, pinpoint handpasses, perfectly weighted foot passes, deft tap-ons, plus his capacity to cleverly sidestep opponents, and seemingly have so much time with ball in hand.
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-09/edwards-a-golden-oldie
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Some of the slickest hands I have ever seen, and lateral movement that makes Cyril look like the Titanic....almost....
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He would have a better highlight package than Cyrils... :shh
I was quite underwhelmed with C. Riolis top 10 on afl.com.au. :whistle
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Where are all those outspoken Shed critics now? :thumbsup
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To give Francois his due
He did apologise in a big way
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Where are all those outspoken Shed critics now? :thumbsup
Standing by the fact that his first 7-8 seasons were mediocre at best.... :shh
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Where are all those outspoken Shed critics now? :thumbsup
Standing by the fact that his first 7-8 seasons were mediocre at best.... :shh
Which just goes to show that players often don’t hit their prime until their mid 20’s.
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Talls and players who've shown solid form throughout maybe but for players like Edwards it isn't "often", rather than an exception to the rule.... :shh
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Edwards was also in a really crap tigers side for the first 5-6 years of his career
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Probably more a reflection the development and off field improvements. He always showed glimpses of his elite abilities early days, just couldn't find the consistency that he has now. Also, his field kicking was terrible early days.
Stuffing gun.
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Edwards was also in a really crap tigers side for the first 5-6 years of his career
So?
How is that even relevant?
You sound like a disgruntled Cats fan.
He’s a star, accept it and move on
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Very scrappy today, great in traffic but dusposal was poor, partiicularly by foot... :shh
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Bit harsh
Had 17 contested possessions
Not easy to be 100% efficiency when you winning the ball continually under the pump
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Do me a favour...there was hardly any real pressure from the GC witches hats all day....stop just looking at stats and watch the actrual game for once... :shh
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Yep
Just checked stats
Team average disposal eff 74% yesterday
Shane Edwards for yesterday 86%
😉
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Those figures backed up what I saw with my own eyes. Not sure what game some on here were watching. Must have had the 2012 replay on their betamaxes.....
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Makes you wonder , why some can't see the amazing work he does , mainly by hand.
And to boot , champion bloke
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Makes you wonder , why some can't see the amazing work he does , mainly by hand.
And to boot , champion bloke
not sure anyone cant see the work now. Issue was was it around consistently in the earlier years.
At the end of the day though wgaf, i certainly dont. The past is the past.
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Yep, Edwards inconsistency was well down on the list of reasons why we weren’t winning flags during the Frawley/Wallace era.
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Edwards was also in a really crap tigers side for the first 5-6 years of his career
So?
How is that even relevant?
You sound like a disgruntled Cats fan.
He’s a star, accept it and move on
I think you misread my point. I am stating that short of our freakish talent in Cotchin/riewoldt/deledio/ Martin etc in our wallace and Frawley days it was hard for anyone to be developed into a decent player and thrive.
I highly rate sheds and if you have time to burn you will see that I backed him in 2016 when everyone said he sucked and should be traded despite being forced to play with injuries.
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Fair enough :thumbsup
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Played a very good game against the Suns.
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Yep
Just checked stats
Team average disposal eff 74% yesterday
Shane Edwards for yesterday 86%
😉
LOL, there aint no coming back from that !, bloody stats & facts
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Makes you wonder , why some can't see the amazing work he does , mainly by hand.
And to boot , champion bloke
Because many simply don't understand or have the eye to see these things players do in games. simple as that :shh
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Makes you wonder , why some can't see the amazing work he does , mainly by hand.
And to boot , champion bloke
Because many simply don't understand or have the eye to see these things players do in games. simple as that :shh
100% correct
:shh
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Congrats Shedda on being a Premiership player & now named an All Australian.
Bout time they all caught up to what you have been doing all these years.
:clapping
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Congrats Shedda on being a Premiership player & now named an All Australian.
Bout time they all caught up to what you have been doing all these years.
:clapping
;D
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Congrats Shedda on being a Premiership player & now named an All Australian.
Bout time they all caught up to what you have been doing all these years.
:clapping
I expected this post, what took you so long? ;D
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I think if you had lived in a cave for the past decade and only resumed watching AFL this year - you would just assume Shane Edwards was our best player.
He has such creative magic skills that put teammates into space.
If Richmond are lucky to play off in the grand final again this year - you could do a lot worse than putting a pineapple on Tich to win the Norm Smith.
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Was very lucky - Caddy should've taken his spot. :shh
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Congrats Shedda on being a Premiership player & now named an All Australian.
Bout time they all caught up to what you have been doing all these years.
:clapping
I expected this post, what took you so long? ;D
Good point. ;D
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The numbers behind Edwards’ All-Australian selection
By SEN
30 Aug 2018
Terry Wallace has revealed the numbers that highlight why Richmond’s Shane Edwards deserved to make the 2018 All-Australian team.
Edwards’ inclusion in the side surprised many, but according to Wallace, it’s rightful recognition for the 29-year-old.
“He is the second best midfield-forward in the competition in Champion Data’s rankings, behind Patrick Dangerfield,” Wallace told SEN Afternoons.
“He ranks number one in the AFL for score assists, ranks number one for handball metres gained, almost 600 more metres gained by handball than any other player in the competition.
“That’s the way Richmond play.”
Edwards averaged a career-high 19.7 disposals per game this season, while also rating elite at his position in goal assists, score launches, ground ball gets and kicking efficiency.
Edwards was one of four Tigers named in the final All-Australian 22, along with Alex Rance, Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/30/the-numbers-behind-edwards'-all-australian-selection/
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Higgins praises All-Australian teammate Edwards
By SEN
31 Aug 2018
Richmond youngster Jack Higgins says Shane Edwards’ decision making and elite ball use makes him such a valued member of this all-conquering Tigers side.
Edwards won his first All-Australian honour after an excellent career-best season for the reigning premiers, averaging 19.7 disposals, 2.8 clearances, 3.6 inside 50s and 6.4 score involvements per game.
Higgins believes the 29-year-old flies under the radar as he doesn’t have the high-profile as some of his teammates, and that he fully deserved his spot in the end of season team.
SEN Afternoons with Andy Maher can be heard Monday-Friday 12-3pm, and you can subscribe to the podcast here.
“It’s probably because he doesn’t have the name of a Dustin Martin or a Trent Cotchin,” Higgins told SEN Afternoons.
“Coming into the year I knew who Shane Edwards was, but after playing with, he is one of the best players I’ve played with.
“He is so smart with the ball, he uses it so well and just watch his hands - it’s unreal.”
Richmond take on Hawthorn in a mouth-watering Qualifying Final clash next Thursday night at the MCG.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/31/higgins-praises-all-australian-teammate-edwards/
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Thought Mr Magic might be on here pumping up Shedder after his big game v the Pies
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:lol
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:shh
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:lol
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Great captains performance!
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Undefeated as captain.
Cotch to come back through the 2's
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Inb4 Mr. Magic... :shh
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-04-13/round-4-edwards-first-win-as-captain
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Stand-in skipper Shane Edwards was best on ground with Hardwick describing the performance of last year's All-Australian as "incredible" in the past three rounds as he has moved to half-back as a result of a suggestion from assistant coach Justin Leppitsch.
Edwards had 28 disposals and won 10 contested possessions to control the game off half back.
"He has been outstanding ever since he moved he back there," Hardwick said.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-set-to-return-on-anzac-eve-as-richmond-hits-top-gear-20190420-p51fw4.html)
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And have big Terry to thank for throwing him back there in 2009 and letting him learn the ropes as a HB flanker.....:shh
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#inTerrywetrust
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The List Manager :shh
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Broke lines but a hacked it a bit - which he said himself after the game... :shh
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Broke lines but a hacked it a bit - which he said himself after the game... :shh
Yup even his elite handballing was off the mark a couple of times
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Sheds made Robbo's "likes":
7. The big five
EXTERNALLY the Tigers have revolved around the big four — Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and Alex Rance. Inside the club it is the big five, the fifth being Shane Edwards. A forward-mid for most of his 236-game career, Edwards switched to a back flank after Rance and Jayden Short were injured. He has become an instant intercept master. Edwards has been in the top three interceptors — and in Richmond’s best — in the past three matches. Against Sydney he had 28 disposals and eight intercept possessions, combined with 410m gained.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-5/news-story/e38dd0b2b4a04b511fdde8d4a6838830
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He was talked up as being part of the big 5 in 2015 if I recall correctly. I’ve always loved his hands in traffic. Would love to see more magic from Edwards in the back half for this season
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He was talked up as being part of the big 5 in 2015 if I recall correctly. I’ve always loved his hands in traffic. Would love to see more magic from Edwards in the back half for this season
Did you used to drive with him to work?
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He was talked up as being part of the big 5 in 2015 if I recall correctly. I’ve always loved his hands in traffic. Would love to see more magic from Edwards in the back half for this season
Did you used to drive with him to work?
:lol :lol
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Hahaha boy oh boy that would be the only way to start the day
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He was talked up as being part of the big 5 in 2015 if I recall correctly. I’ve always loved his hands in traffic. Would love to see more magic from Edwards in the back half for this season
Did you used to drive with him to work?
You are naughty! :lol
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Another great game last night.
He has been seriously awesome this year and with Vlastuin, Grimes and Stack, the reason we have rebounded so well after Rance went down.
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Another great game last night.
He has been seriously awesome this year and with Vlastuin, Grimes and Stack, the reason we have rebounded so well after Rance went down.
Could have been a great game but I felt he missed too many handball targets.
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Shane and Houli's disposal was abit off last night. Both missed targets they would usually hit without problem.
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Pretty poor from to tonights Captain
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Edwards, effectively deployed in defence for the majority of this season, had 25 disposals, four inside-50s, four clearances, seven score involvements, took five marks, applied four tackles and finished with 473 metres gained in Richmond’s 92-point win.
“We’ve had to use Shane in a different role this year to plug a few holes along the way,” Hardwick said.
“He was the best score-assist player in the AFL last year and we’ve barely played him forward at all (this season), midfield as well.
“So, all of a sudden, he steps back in that role and some good things happen."
Read more: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-07-08/shedda-showcases-playmaking-prowess
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Would be leading the B&F IMO.
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Would be leading the B&F IMO.
Agree
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Would be leading the B&F IMO.
Agree
He or grimes win it this year with some margin to third
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Would be leading the B&F IMO.
Agree
He or grimes win it this year with some margin to third
Prestia will give them a run for their money. Elsewise nobody IMO...
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Stack will be up there
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Reckon it's Prestia, Grimes, Martin, Stack, Edwards, & McIntosh in that order atm with McIntosh sliding in the last month... :shh
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Ch 7 gave Sheds the $8000 TV for B.O.G.
31 disposals (13k, 18h, 11c, 19u, 74% eff.)
8 clearances (3 centre, 5 stoppages)
2 marks
2 tackles
4 inside F50s
5 rebound D50s
3 one%ers
2 clangers
1 behind.
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
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Easily BOG
Sensational
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
Not sure what game you watch!
Clearly BOG
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
Not sure what game you watch!
Clearly BOG
2 weeks in a row we agree :o
This is very scary :rollin
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Prestia and Martin ahead of him I say
Oh well
Note Dusty 11 inside 50,s
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
Agree
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FWIW, I thought Prestia was our best
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Just watched the replay. Thought Shed was great, lots of silk in the wet weather and really helped turn the game in Q3.
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
Not sure what game you watch!
Clearly BOG
Clearly BOG :clapping
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Buddysucks & Jack must've both watched the match through locked gates.... :shh
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They watched a different game to me. Consistently missed targets by foot and hand, sold team mates into trouble in order to avoid any absorbing any physical contact.
Agree
Dusty went at 50% efficiency
Prestia at 71%
And Edwards went at 74%, but "consistently missed targets" :o
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Quite a few of Dusty’s kicks were centre clearances that were quick ball to boot type kicks just pushing it forward so I wouldn’t rely on those stats to give us a clear indication of ball use. Some of Dusty’s kicks though set up goals or kicks that should have been goals (Riewoldt). Very few players can set things up like Dusty....... :shh
He was fantastic last night...... :shh
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Quite a few of Dusty’s kicks were centre clearances that were quick ball to boot type kicks just pushing it forward so I wouldn’t rely on those stats to give us a clear indication of ball use. Some of Dusty’s kicks though set up goals or kicks that should have been goals (Riewoldt). Very few players can set things up like Dusty....... :shh
He was fantastic last night...... :shh
I thought Dusty was very good but Edwards better.
Point I was making is people are suggesting Edwards "consistently missed targets". He didn't his hands were elite last night
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Quite a few of Dusty’s kicks were centre clearances that were quick ball to boot type kicks just pushing it forward so I wouldn’t rely on those stats to give us a clear indication of ball use. Some of Dusty’s kicks though set up goals or kicks that should have been goals (Riewoldt). Very few players can set things up like Dusty....... :shh
He was fantastic last night...... :shh
I thought Dusty was very good but Edwards better.
Point I was making is people are suggesting Edwards "consistently missed targets". He didn't his hands were elite last night
Watch the replay carefully. Edwards disposal in the first half was atrocious. Make sure your vision considers handballing to teammates knees and ankles.
Sensational second half.
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Buddysucks & Jack must've both watched the match through locked gates.... :shh
M16 actually , you ?
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Quite a few of Dusty’s kicks were centre clearances that were quick ball to boot type kicks just pushing it forward so I wouldn’t rely on those stats to give us a clear indication of ball use. Some of Dusty’s kicks though set up goals or kicks that should have been goals (Riewoldt). Very few players can set things up like Dusty....... :shh
He was fantastic last night...... :shh
I thought Dusty was very good but Edwards better.
Point I was making is people are suggesting Edwards "consistently missed targets". He didn't his hands were elite last night
Watch the replay carefully. Edwards disposal in the first half was atrocious. Make sure your vision considers handballing to teammates knees and ankles.
Sensational second half.
Have watched the replay, and have to say applying the same standards Dusty's disposal in the first half was atrocious as well :rollin
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Quite a few of Dusty’s kicks were centre clearances that were quick ball to boot type kicks just pushing it forward so I wouldn’t rely on those stats to give us a clear indication of ball use. Some of Dusty’s kicks though set up goals or kicks that should have been goals (Riewoldt). Very few players can set things up like Dusty....... :shh
He was fantastic last night...... :shh
I thought Dusty was very good but Edwards better.
Point I was making is people are suggesting Edwards "consistently missed targets". He didn't his hands were elite last night
Watch the replay carefully. Edwards disposal in the first half was atrocious. Make sure your vision considers handballing to teammates knees and ankles.
Sensational second half.
Have watched the replay, and have to say applying the same standards Dusty's disposal in the first half was atrocious as well :rollin
Thought this was the Edwards thread? :banghead
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From Robbo's "likes" column ...
5 EVERYWHERE MAN
Shane Edwards continues to put up an argument as the most versatile player in the competition. In Round 1 he played wing-forward. In Round 2 he was an inside mid-forward. Rounds 3-15, it was halfback. Rounds 16-17 he was back to inside mid-forward. Round 18 it was wing-half back and Round 19 on the wing. On Saturday night it was almost purely as an inside midfielder. His cleanness and smarts were as important as Dusty Martin’s 30-plus touches and I will be keen to know who coach Damien Hardwick gives his maximum votes to in the coaches’ award. Edwards attended the second most centre bounces of any Tiger and won the most clearances. He is the 24th highest rated player in the league and the highest-rated player who isn’t a midfielder or ruckman.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-20/news-story/d7b58490d0617df98e883105219bda10
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Shane Edwards is currently sitting 250th on the VFL/AFL all-time games played list, and is also due to play his 250th game against Carlton. The lively midfielder has played the sixth-most VFL/AFL games by an indigenous player.
Sheds is also averaging over 20 disposals per game for the first time in his career (21.2).
Sources:
AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-06/match-preview-richmond-v-carlton)
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/S/Shane_Edwards.html
:clapping
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250 games hey?
Seems to be going ok for a player who's apparently no good.
:lol
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Have you learnt the names of any of our other 43 players yet? :shh
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For a bloke who averages around 20 disposals a game he sure does a ton of damage. Best hands in the league IMO, and quite a reliable/contested player.
Makes me feel really good to see him earn some accolades. Milestones, acting captain, premiership, AA. Deserves it all!
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VIDEO: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-08-09/sheddas-journey-to-250-games
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/19SocialSet%20-%20MILESTONE%20-%20Edwards%20250Facebook%20_%20Twitter%20_%20Linkedin.jpg)
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There was a point in time where our backs where against the wall yet again and it looked like we need a number of changes, Board, Coaching Panel, Playing group etc and even I came to the conclusion that if we needed to rebuild it might be better to let him go to S.A
I'm so glad I and others were wrong.
Absolute jet, best hands in the business, Premiership player and probably stiff not to be the Norm Smith Medallist in 2017
Also one of the nicest blokes from the playing group who appears genuinely happy to spend time with the fans
Well done on 250 games and here's hoping for another 100 or more
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Recruiting blunder that delivered Tigers gun
Glenn McFarlane,
Herald Sun
11 Aug 2019
Richmond’s Shane Edwards has been dubbed a Shaun Burgoyne clone for his capacity to keep improving with age in a variety of roles.
But the unassuming Tigers star would have done so in a different jumper, if not for a never-before revealed recruiting overrule.
As Edwards prepares to become the 250th player to play 250 games — against Carlton at the MCG today — the Sunday Herald Sun can detail for the first time how Brisbane missed their chance to secure the wiry, talented 18-year-old.
The Lions’ then recruiting manager Craig Brittain had been desperate to take the North Adelaide teenager with the club’s pick 22 in the 2006 national draft.
But when he put forward Edwards’ name for selection, Brittain was vetoed by the powers above him — much to his ongoing chagrin.
Instead, Brisbane chose another indigenous teenager, Queensland under-18 captain Albert Proud, which allowed the Tigers to take Edwards four picks later.
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/74341c4b2273527a08a2aa1ffe06aa80?width=1024)
Richmond’s 2006 draft class (from left) Andrew Collins, Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt, Carl Peterson and Shane Edwards.
Edwards has gone on to become one of the Tigers’ best, and most admired, players.
Proud managed only 29 games for the Lions, with a series of off-field issues and trouble with the law pushing him on a downward spiral. In 2016, he received a five-year prison term for bashing his partner.
Justin Leppitsch, who has twice been an assistant coach at Richmond, revealed the details of the sliding doors moment this week.
“Craig Brittain was doing recruiting (for the Lions) and he wanted to take ‘Shedda’ with the second pick Brisbane had just before Richmond,” Leppitsch said.
“But they (the football department) went against him, which he still upsets him today.
“They wanted to take Albert Proud, who didn’t end up lasting (at the Lions).
“Craig said to me ‘Keep following that kid (Edwards) … I wanted to pick him’.
‘I told ‘Shedda’ it was a sliding doors moment … he could easily have ended up in Brisbane.”
Coincidentally, Edwards initially believed he had been drafted to Brisbane in November 2006 after an internet malfunction at his Adelaide home.
The draft wasn’t televised that Saturday morning and Edwards had to rely on a phone call for the news of his future home.
“The phone rang about 10.30 and I picked it up. It was Craig McRae on the phone,” his father Greg Edwards said. “He introduced himself and asked to speak to Shane, who was standing next to me.
“Shane was like, ‘Which club is it?’. I said: ‘Brisbane’, because I thought Craig McRae was from Brisbane.
“Shane stumbled his way through the call, thinking he was going to Brisbane. When he put down the phone, he said to me: ‘Dad, it’s Richmond’.”
THE SPRAY THAT STILL DRIVES HIM
Edwards hates letting people down.
He’s rarely ever done it, but the fear of it still drives him.
It’s something that pushed him his junior career with Golden Grove in South Australia, with North Adelaide in the SANFL and now in 13 seasons in yellow and black.
But there was one time he felt he let the side down.
That came during the 2006 season when he was playing one of his 10 games with North Adelaide seniors under the coaching of SANFL great Andrew Jarman.
Edwards was crook with the flu, but disguised it well enough to play. He delivered a less than satisfactory performance, prompting a response from his coach.
“’Jars’ was a great teacher, and he grabbed Shane and said: ‘Don’t you ever be so selfish again,” Greg Edwards recalled.
“I know that stuck in Shane’s head. He still remembers it.
“He hates the idea of doing anything to let his teammates, or ‘Dimma’ (Damien Hardwick) down. He’s very conscious of that.”
Jack Riewoldt, who was drafted alongside Edwards in the Tigers’ class of 2006, says the best thing about his teammate is that he is so reliable and dependable.
“He is just the epitome of what you want from a footballer and a teammate,” Riewoldt said. “He is a very good player and a very good person.”
EXTRA TO EXPERT
There was a running joke in Chris Newman’s online Hello Newman videos on the club’s website at the back end of his career at Richmond.
As Newman toured the homes of Richmond stars, one constant was Edwards’ appearance as an extra in the skits.
In Jake King’s segment, the opening of a wardrobe revealed Edwards bound and gagged as if he was being held hostage.
The footballer who was affectionately cast as an extra not that many years ago is now a bona fide star.
The durable utility has never played fewer than 15 games in a season since making his debut in 2007 — this year will be his eighth that he has played at least 20.
A second successive All-Australian blazer seems assured next month.
“He is an absolute beauty,” Leppitsch said this week. “It is very rare that you get better in your late 20s or early 30s, but he has clearly done that.”
Riewoldt said Edwards is the best handballer he has ever seen, and “every recruiter’s dream … as they search for players with that football chip — and he’s got it.”
There were some tough early years from a team perspective, which wasn’t lost on Edwards this week.
“I feel like I have experienced a lot in 250 games,” he said on 3AW. “I have seen what it’s like being at the bottom (of the ladder) and finding that extremely difficult to win games, and now it has been the opposite.”
Those closest to him maintain coach Damien Hardwick has played a significant role in getting the best out of Edwards as a player.
Shane’s father said: “The way the game changes can make or break some players. A player’s skills and speed don’t necessarily change, but the game style does give certain players an opportunity to come on. I reckon that’s what’s happened to Shane.”
“He got to 26 and was going OK. But the way the game is played now suits him. Dimma wanted Shane’s flair because it suited the way he wanted the club to play.
“In the early days some coaches thought he was a bit risky, which probably stifled his development a bit.
“Shane watched some vision with Dimma one day and he missed a couple of handballs. He told Dimma that he needed to learn from that. But Dimma said, ‘No, we need to learn to go faster, and understand what you are going to do with it.”
INDIGENOUS INVESTMENT
Edwards always knew about his indigenous heritage, through his mother Tara, but hadn’t looked into it.
That all changed on a Richmond Football Club trip to the small Aboriginal community at Santa Teresa, about 80km from Alice Springs, in 2013.
Greg Edwards detailed: “He and his brother Kym have always known about his background on his mum’s side, but he had never really investigated it.
“That is until Richmond took him to Santa Teresa. The guy who interviewed him there asked him what his great grandmother’s last name was. It was Summerfield, and he asked if there were any Summerfields in the room.
“All of these young indigenous kids rushed up on stage to hug him.”
Edwards’ great-grandmother, Elsie Summerfield, had been one of the stolen generation, and that trip connected him to distant relatives he never really knew existed.
Six years on, Edwards has embraced the next wave of indigenous players at Richmond, and a close look at the club’s theme song most weeks sees him standing alongside Sydney Stack, Daniel Rioli and Shai Bolton.
“He is a great role model for our indigenous players,” Riewoldt said. “But I’d go further than that, and say he is a great role model for our other young players, too, and our staff.
“When he stepped into the captaincy this year, when the three of us (Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Alex Rance) were out, it was really important to him.”
His first game in charge came against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval in Round 4.
Before the game he resolved to make it a fun experience, telling his father he wanted to give an old-fashioned rev-up warm-up.
“He got the boys together, got them all in close, and got Kamdyn McIntosh to yell out, ‘Give me 10’,” his father said with a smile.
“AFL clubs don’t do all that old warm-up stuff, but he did it, and everyone was laughing.”
THE BURGOYNE CLONE
Riewoldt says his close mate reminds him so much of Hawthorn’s Shaun Burgoyne.
That’s a good comparison for Tigers fans.
Burgoyne is still playing good footy at 36 in just about any position required. Edwards is doing the same and doesn’t turn 31 until October.
“I see him nearly as a clone of Shaun Burgoyne,” Riewoldt said. “He has that ability to play back, forward, mid. He impacts wherever he goes.
“We would love to have three of him.”
Leppitsch couldn’t believe his luck earlier this year when the defensive coach had the luxury of having Edwards at half-back for a period.
But, in keeping with his career, he has forever been on the move.
“It’s funny, he is the sort of guy who changes positions so often because he is so good in every position he plays,” Leppitsch said. “He has bounced around his whole career.
“He is going to be one of those guys who, when he walks away from his career, you wonder what position he actually did play.
“I stole him for a while and then, as the half-backs kept coming back like (Jayden) Short and (Bachar) Houli, they stole him back for the midfield.
“I haven’t been able to steal him (again), but I’ll keep pushing.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/how-a-recruiting-overrule-left-the-door-ajar-for-richmond-to-lock-in-shane-edwards/news-story/6d15332fd635d8ab5a86d4193cdf7b5f
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'There was possum poo on the floor': Tiger reflects on the road to 250
AFL.com.au
Sarah Black
Aug 11, 2019 11:02AM
WHEN Shane Edwards first walked into the gym at Richmond, there was possum poo on the floor.
Edwards had been flown over for the day after being selected with pick 26 in the 2006 draft, and was somewhat taken aback by his surroundings.
"I came from North Adelaide, which was a really modern SANFL club. When I rocked up to Richmond, while I can't really remember what I expected, the facilities weren't actually as good as what I came from," Edwards told AFL.com.au.
"It was historic. Now, I appreciate what it looked like and what it had been through, but there was possum poo on the floor of the gym, the weights were uneven, things were just really old.
"It surprised me what state the club was in both financially and from a facility point of view. But that's one per cent of my first impression, everything else was about, 'oh my god, I just met 'Richo' (Matthew Richardson), Nathan Brown and Kane Johnson'."
There wasn't much of Shane Edwards in his debut season at the Tigers in 2007. Picture: AFL Photos
On the day of his 250th game (oddly enough, when he runs out on Sunday against Carlton, he will be the 250th player to reach the mark), Edwards is playing for a different Richmond.
He jokes, head in his hands, that the young Tigers don't know how good they've got it, playing for one of the strongest clubs in the competition, both on and off the field.
While now very stable, the club underwent a massive transformation during the early years of Edwards' career.
Former club hero Brendon Gale was appointed CEO in August 2009, while Damien Hardwick took over from caretaker coach Jade Rawlings at the end of that year (Rawlings became caretaker following Terry Wallace's departure midway through that season).
The Fighting Tiger Fund was launched at the start of 2011 to clear the club's debt of $4.5 million, upgrade Punt Road Oval and invest in the football department, particularly recruiting. A redevelopment of the club's facilities was also completed that year.
But all that seemed miles away to Edwards, whose immediate concern upon starting at the club was to find a jumper that fitted his 71-kilogram frame.
"Back then, we weren't given high jumper numbers, we got given low numbers straight away. Jack (Riewoldt) was given number eight, I was given number 10," he said.
"Greg Stafford was number 10 before me, and he was 35 centimetres taller and 30 kilos heavier. It was a dress on me.
"I don't know whose jumper they eventually found, probably a kid who won a competition!"
Edwards believes himself, Riewoldt and head of coaching Tim Livingstone are among the longest-serving members (in terms of consecutive years) at the club, given the turmoil of his early years.
"It's all you know. When you get here, you think whatever you're doing is the right thing. It's not until things change and more success happens, that you think, 'I can't believe we ever did that back then'.
"One of the biggest changes between 2016 and 2017 (the premiership year) was just everyone shifted their focus from negative to positive, focusing on what everyone could do well rather than people can't do.
"It snowballed into positive energy that hasn't stopped since. That obviously started from the top with 'Dimma', 'Cotch' (captain Trent Cotchin), the Chief (Gale) and Peggy (O'Neal, president). It just filtered down everywhere."
That positivity was tested earlier this season as the Tigers suffered a string of injuries to key personnel.
The three-man leadership group of Trent Cotchin, Riewoldt and Alex Rance were all ruled out by round four, leaving a surprised Edwards skipper of a decimated side for seven weeks. The team even ran into Steven Bradbury at the airport on the very same day Edwards had "Bradbury-ed" his way to captaincy.
The Tigers formed, in effect, a new leadership group, comprised of Edwards, Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Kane Lambert and Tom Lynch. The quintet still go to leadership meetings, despite Riewoldt being back on the field.
"I suppose I was captain, but really we all just lifted a little bit. I would talk a bit, but then I would get someone else to have their little spiel as well. Ranting and raving isn't really one of my strengths, so I included others," Edwards said.
"After moving to half-back (having been moved there to cover for Jayden Short), I had to make sure I really knew my position so I can help others.
"But I can't believe how good the young guys were. Jack Ross had 28 touches in his first game; it took me 200 to get that."
The 30-year-old is still some way off retirement, but is currently working with the club's recruiting department, a nod to where his post-playing career might head.
"When I have to retire or get delisted – by the guys I'm working with – then I'll hopefully be a recruiter and know myself that I'm no good anymore, so it'll be a good call."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-11/there-was-possum-poo-on-the-floor-tiger-reflects-on-the-road-to-250
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From Robbo's "likes" column:
As for Edwards, CEO Brendon Gale said it best on twitter:
"It’s hard to articulate a club’s culture in just a few words. Sometimes it’s best understood by simply observing its people. I’ve thought of @S_Edwards10 and his milestone plenty this week, and he’s the embodiment of our culture. He’s a great man and he’s a @Richmond_FC man."
— Brendon Gale (@brendongale25) August 10, 2019
https://twitter.com/brendongale25/status/1160095033334173696
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Gee he was massive
What a display he put on today
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I dunno how he weaves through what he does and still gets those sniper shot handballs out while getting tackled
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Great game - just wish he'd play the percentages occasionally though.. :shh
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Great game - just wish he'd play the percentages occasionally though.. :shh
And take away what makes him elite?
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Gee he was massive
What a display he put on today
His disposal was deplorable at times. Fumbled more than usual too.
Was very good in the last quarter.
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Great game - just wish he'd play the percentages occasionally though.. :shh
And take away what makes him elite?
What part of "occasionally" didn't you understand? :shh
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Trade talk: Tigers move early on free agent
Jay Clark and Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
30 Aug 2019
Richmond star midfielder Shane Edwards will push the button on a contract extension for next season, taking him off the free agency market.
One of the most underrated prime movers in the competition would be an ideal target for Gold Coast for the same reasons the Suns are hunting Hawthorn great Shaun Burgoyne.
But premiership star Edwards, 30, has a verbal agreement in place to go on for up to two more seasons at Punt Rd, locking in one of the club’s favourite sons until the end of 2021.
Edwards’ deal will be formalised once the Tigers’ season wraps up and some other list management issues are sorted.
While his free agency status has largely flown under the radar, there is no threat of the versatile Edwards leaving Richmond as the clubs look to capitalise on its premiership window.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/moneyball-latest-afl-trade-and-contract-news/news-story/38a0ff38f78fbed463b8779d6852a4de
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Edwards is an absolute champion of this club.
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Yes he is, and getting better with age too.
Love him!
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Time for Mr Magic to make an appearance
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Scarily tore the game to shreds in the 3rd quarter. Like a fine wine seems to be getting even better with age.
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Mr September
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Time for Mr Magic to make an appearance
:shh
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And didn't he just..
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Sign him up for three more years.
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Brilliant last night.
Just a star of the comp.
And boy I let a few Brisbane people know last night.
Really awesome night for the footy club and a step closer to where we want to be.
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What more can you say
Mr Magic your man killed it
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An extension for veteran Shane Edwards is expected to be announced in coming days.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-13/new-deal-for-redhot-tiger-after-careerbest-season)
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Shane Edwards – 8
Often considered to be under-rated, but that can't be the case anymore. Continues to excel in September. Was busy in and under, with 12 contested possessions. Set up a crucial goal in the last quarter with a beautiful piece of roving off the marking contest.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-20/every-tiger-rated-from-the-preliminary-final
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Sheds being moved into the middle after half-time changed the game. We started winning the clearances. Summed up by that rove of the ball at HF in the last quarter which was sublime :bow.
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Sheds being moved into the middle after half-time changed the game. We started winning the clearances. Summed up by that rove of the ball at HF in the last quarter which was sublime :bow.
A player hitting the pack at full speed and crumbing the ball cleanly is still one of the best things to see on the footy field.
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For me stays in the guts.
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This guy is like a fine wine. He simply gets better with age. :clapping
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Shane Edwards – 7
Capped a great finals series with another excellent performance. Edwards became more influential as the match wore on, mixing pressure – a bone-rattling tackle on Toby Greene the standout – with silky skills. Gave the final handball for a Kane Lambert goal and racked up 21 touches.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-28/player-ratings-richmond
SHANE EDWARDS 8
OK – this is the moratorium. This bloke is never to be referred to as underrated ever again. Shook off Matt de Boer and gobbled up contested possessions like a Saturday afternoon snack.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/afl-grand-final-player-ratings-dustin-martin-and-bachar-houli-shine-toby-green-phil-davis-flop/news-story/3b13f40fe020027c0e71ae275f356ff2
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Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
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Big game player.
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Balmey on Trade Radio said Edwards has been re-signed :thumbsup.
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Balmey on Trade Radio said Edwards has been re-signed :thumbsup .
Not quite. Agreed but paperwork not yet done.
:thumbsup
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Balmey on Trade Radio said Edwards has been re-signed :thumbsup .
Not quite. Agreed but paperwork not yet done.
:thumbsup
True but the two-year deal is effectively done. Sheds isn't going anywhere else :thumbsup.
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Richmond general manager of football Neil Balme has confirmed that Shane Edwards has re-signed for a further two seasons.
The club veteran is fresh off another premiership and will be sticking around Punt Road going forward.
“That’s been done for ages (a two-year deal),” he told Telstra AFL Trade Radio.
“There were a few other things, the paperwork hadn’t been finished, but he’s very much a Tiger.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/02/balme-anticipating-to-lose-butler-and-ellis-as-edwards-recommits/)
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Excellent, glad he's staying and for another 2 not 1.
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Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Me too, magnificent footballer, murdered by our coaches early in his career, finally someone saw the light and let him just play his own way.
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Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Me too, magnificent footballer, murdered by our coaches early in his career, finally someone saw the light and let him just play his own way.
To be fair he has stopped the shanks now and bulked up a bit to prevent being ragged dolled around
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Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Me too, magnificent footballer, murdered by our coaches early in his career, finally someone saw the light and let him just play his own way.
To be fair he has stopped the shanks now and bulked up a bit to prevent being ragged dolled around
Imagine that, a player that wasn't fully developed and ready to play consistent AFL football at 18!?
Always showed he had the talent from day dot.
Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Agree 110% with this :clapping
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I think we've all said something negative regarding Edwards along the journey.
I remember thinking only players this mediocre get to play 150 games at Richmond.
He has proved everyone wrong. Magnificent player. His last five seasons have all been A grade. What a sensational job as captain earlier this year.
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Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Me too, magnificent footballer, murdered by our coaches early in his career, finally someone saw the light and let him just play his own way.
To be fair he has stopped the shanks now and bulked up a bit to prevent being ragged dolled around
Imagine that, a player that wasn't fully developed and ready to play consistent AFL football at 18!?
Always showed he had the talent from day dot.
Gee I hope he makes it to 300 games! I will be devastated when this guy calls it a day...
Agree 110% with this :clapping
It was happening well into his 20's
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God there are some embarrassing posts in this thread.
I went to page 80 and laughed at a WAT comment - something about it being a recruitment disaster.
Unfortunately I didn't have to scroll long before I saw my own idiotic comments.
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There were very few who didn't stop believing he would make it
I was certainly not one of them
Its a great time to be proven wrong
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This thread is as ridiculous as the sack Hardwick one 😂 😂
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I don't remember potting him , always thought he had exception vision and skill
I think we all got it wrong when players were starting off
I wasn't sure about Rance or Jack
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Confirmed two-year deal for Sheds on the RFC website.
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Shane Edwards [has] signed [a] new deal to remain at Richmond.
Edwards, 30, has signed on for two years.
Edwards, a 255-game, dual premiership player for the Tigers had another stellar season in 2019, capping it off with a career-best second placing in this year’s Jack Dyer Medal.
The talented utility successfully captained the Richmond side for multiple games this season when its leaders were struck with injury.
He averaged 21.9 disposals, 3.6 clearances, 3.3 marks 3.1 tackles, 4.8 score involvements and 320.5 metres gained per match in his 24 games this season.
At Tigerland, he was ranked No. 3 for contested possessions, No. 3 for clearances, No. 3 for centre clearances, equal No. 3 for tackles, No. 4 for disposals, No. 4 for intercepts and No. 4 for metres gained.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-10-03/edwards-pickett-ink-new-deals
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His last 75 games have been so much better than his first, it's like 2 different players! :shh
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His last 75 games have been so much better than his first, it's like 2 different players! :shh
Is that your way of justifying some previous posts??
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There were very few who didn't stop believing he would make it
I was certainly not one of them
Its a great time to be proven wrong
You did go pretty hard at him for a long time from memory FJ.
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Does anyone remember his first game?
Was it interstate?... maybe Perth?
I have a vague memory of him running down the far wing balking around a few players.
Boy he was skinny.
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Does anyone remember his first game?
Was it interstate?... maybe Perth?
I have a vague memory of him running down the far wing balking around a few players.
Boy he was skinny.
Adelaide I think
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His last 75 games have been so much better than his first, it's like 2 different players! :shh
Is that your way of justifying some previous posts??
Not at all. Without going through my posts, iirc, I supported him for quite a while at the start of his career but by about game 120 to 150, like most, I had lost patience. I’m glad he’s turned it around and now he is one of our most important players.
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Unfortunately I didn't have to scroll long before I saw my own idiotic comments.
:lol
There's the period where we tried to turn him into a vanilla HBF. It may have helped him to be what he is today who knows. My view is that it held him back and we could've got another 40 games of shedder out of him.
Then there was the shank period. I loved him but there was one game where even I lost it towards the end of that era.
But what a magnificent player he has turned out to be. He just seems to be getting quicker! I don't know if it's just me getting old but a few times this season, and I like to think I keep a keen eye for the inside footy, it took a few moments for my mind to catch up with and appreciate what he actually did and how the hell he did it.
This is easy to say but injury free he is a 350 gamer. He is in magnificent shape. A lot of basketballers peak in their early 30's and can carry it through to their mid to late 30's and I think he's in this category.
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There were very few who didn't stop believing he would make it
I was certainly not one of them
Its a great time to be proven wrong
You did go pretty hard at him for a long time from memory FJ.
Yep
Many years and I happily own that
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8tPS7VAAAXvmV?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/wonderbonzi/status/1179711375947382784
:thumbsup
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SHANE EDWARDS (Richmond)
Like Burgoyne, he can comfortably play in any line where his speed and game sense is so vital.
SuperCoach price: $458,000 2019 SC average: 87
Champion Data says: Edwards spent 45% of game time in defence, 44% in the midfield and 11% up forward last season. He averages 20.8 disposals per 100 minutes in defence while 25.4 disposals per 100 minutes as a midfielder.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/2020-afl-dream-team-who-is-the-best-utility-in-the-afl/news-story/9bfd600664a7609f58064f428a405ee5
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Seriously should be considered a great richmond player for his contribution to our club over the last decade.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8tPS7VAAAXvmV?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/wonderbonzi/status/1179711375947382784
:thumbsup
Next year they can have a photo with him with the three tin mugs. 2017, 2019 and 2020. I turn 50 in May. My wish is on the last day in September we get our 13th Premiership in the cabinet.
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Ramps, what day in May?
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20
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20
I’ve got a week on ya :shh
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My story: Shane Edwards - opens up on mythical creature Bachar Houli, Richmond's two flags and the best he's played with
Shane Edwards
Sunday Herald Sun
15 March 2020
By the time I had turned 10 or 11, my future premiership teammate Bachar Houli was already a legend in Adelaide.
Not that he would have known it.
Growing up in South Australia and playing junior footy with the mighty Golden Grove Kookaburras, there were whispers about a kid in Melbourne called Bachar who was apparently as big as everyone’s dad.
The story went he would kick 20 goals a game and get in fights with not just players from the opposing teams, but their parents as well.
We heard the name Bachar was actually a nickname as in “Basher”, because he liked to bash people.
He became this almost mythical creature from the home of footy in Victoria where kids were bigger and nastier.
To all of us he sounded terrifying and over the years the legend only grew.
This rumour started in under-12s and went all the way through to under-15s.
I remember then seeing him for the first time a few years later and thinking, ‘Wow, that’s Bachar Houli, he’s a real person!’
He had muscles and facial hair before anyone else, and then I met him and soon realised he’s the nicest guy you’ll ever come across.
I quickly realised he’s the last person in the world to enjoy bashing people or getting in a fight with anyone’s parents.
But one part of the legend actually was true – he was often kicking 20 goals a game in the juniors.
We came across each other again at the AFL draft camp in Canberra in 2006 and we were in a similar group — medium forwards.
We did the beep test, which was my first and thankfully my last time I had to go through that.
I was only 65kg at the time so I think I won it or came close to winning it.
The next day we had the 3km time-trial and I also did well on that because again I was so light.
I remember actually beating Bachar and afterwards he made a point of coming over to me.
“Well done mate, great run,” he said.
Everyone was obviously really competitive and here was the one guy actually being nice and respectful to everyone else.
Yep, the very same “Basher” I’d heard all those tall tales about years earlier.
Later on when he joined me at Richmond after leaving Essendon, I quickly realised he was a much better runner than me.
He absolutely blossomed when he hit the AFL system, whereas I’ve pretty much kept the same time and had to add weight on.
I never would have thought I would play in two flags with “Basher”, my junior footy bogeyman from Victoria who turned out to be by far the nicest guy I’ve ever met.
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EARLY DAYS AT PUNT RD
I’ll never forget my early days at Tigerland at the end of 2006.
I’d just been drafted, it was my first day at the club and I’d been handed the No. 10 jumper, which had last been worn by 203cm ruckman Greg Stafford.
At the time they still only had the No. 10 jumper in his size and I had to pose up in it.
I was just swimming in this jumper. I looked horrible.
I was 65kg, had never lifted a weight in my life to that point.
I looked absolutely awful.
If I was the club I would have undrafted me and sent me packing back to South Australia on a one-way ticket immediately.
Despite that incident, my early days there were incredible and I just remember constantly being in awe.
At the time the facilities at Punt Rd weren’t what they are today.
I remember thinking that my old SANFL club North Adelaide boasted better digs than this historic AFL club.
Often we would find possum poo on the floor of the gym in the mornings.
It didn’t bother me. I was at an AFL club and walking the hallways with the likes of Matthew Richardson.
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JACK AND I
I WAS drafted to Richmond alongside Jack Riewoldt, but that was not the first time I met him.
We had crossed paths months earlier at the AFL draft camp and you couldn’t miss him.
He was the loudest kid by a mile, cracking jokes with all the coaches while everyone else was just afraid of their own shadow.
Early in Jack’s career, the older guys probably would have thought, “Who is this loud and confident kid?”
That is just Jack though, and he’s never been afraid to speak up.
He was an absolute gun straight away, even though it took him a few years to get regular games because “Richo” was there.
He is just the smartest player and I remember years ago we would call him footy’s “Rain Man” because he just knew where the footy was always going to go.
The only problem with fitting into game plans is Jack is smart enough to almost beat the system and just kick a goal.
It’s almost like stopping him from kicking a goal and playing into the system, because he’s just ridiculously smart.
I fully believe that if Jack had just played in the midfield from day one he’d probably be one of the best mids in the comp. He’s just good at everything.
We’ve experienced the ups and downs at the club together for almost 15 years.
We’ve got our inside jokes and it’s good knowing that when we talk about stories from Richmond back in the day, Jack knows exactly what I’m talking about.
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THE TRANSFORMATION AT PUNT RD
I played almost seven seasons of AFL before playing my first final.
Before that, I would sit on the couch at my parents’ home in Adelaide and watch the teams run around in September.
My off-season had already started and here were these players all finding another gear with everything on the line.
I remember thinking, “I’m buggered, the season was that hard. I have no idea about how those blokes are playing finals”.
Then once you’re in it you realise it’s largely the adrenaline that carries you through.
The difference of having a positive season rather than a negative one is actually refreshing.
The transformation at Richmond in my time has been incredible.
The journey has been gradual in terms of improving facilities, then slowly making finals every now and then or not making it to making finals regularly.
Now I feel surprised if we lose two games in a row.
Back in the day, I was just happy to be playing and to be out there.
It’s different these days.
The system is working really well and it’s a happy environment and very progressive.
PREMIERSHIPS
The first flag in 2017 was just surreal, I couldn’t believe it.
Even after the game at functions and the after-party, my partner Sam or my dad or brother would say to me: “You just won the Grand Final.”
Those words would almost shock me again and make me think, “How did we do that?”
The whole month of finals went so quick it was just perfect.
The flag last September felt different.
I can’t think of it without thinking of Marlion Pickett.
Having him play almost took the attention away from the gravity of the event.
It changed the mindset a lot because you wanted to help Marlion just be comfortable.
It diverted a bit of your attention to look outside yourself and it probably really helped us calm the nerves.
It was extraordinary.
You wouldn’t think winning the Grand Final would almost be second-place news on the day.
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BEST I’VE PLAYED WITH
In my time at the club, I’ve played with some truly remarkable players.
It’s almost impossible to split them, but three players come to mind.
“Dusty” Martin is probably at the highest peak.
“Richo” is probably the best overall player, but I reckon Riewoldt is the most underrated.
He’s had the highest degree of difficulty in his position for the longest and been the best player at that.
So I’d almost say Riewoldt is the best, just by the fact he’s an undersized key forward who’s held the fort down for years and thrived at it.
THE FUTURE
I’M contracted for this season and the next, so I like to think I’ve still got plenty of football left in me.
Although, I must admit I have an eye on the future.
Recruitment and list management is an area I’m interested in and I’ve been doing a fair bit of stuff with our recruiters the past couple of years, going out watching under-18 games.
I’ve been learning a lot and hopefully I can transition into something like that after footy because I’m really interested in that side of the game.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/my-story-shane-edwards-opens-up-on-mythical-ceature-bachar-houli-richmonds-two-flags-and-the-best-hes-played-with/news-story/028b44d78cd3a7688be72bd74e83c47d
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sheds. You are the seriously underrated player and I’m glad the game style has shifted to suit your strengths
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Baby Sheds on the way in the Edwards household.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1250978301163659264
Congrats :clapping.
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Will be a player I reckon. Its a fair decision, a couple of players like Hislop & Djekurra were taken. Fair enough. Hes a skinny kid but we gotta get him another 8 to 10kgs over the next 2 years. A fair Selection. No complaints.
Well said Ramps ;D
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Yeah and you were only out by 6 years... :shh
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Edwards has been a great player for us. He didnt take 6 years to come good it was quicker than that. Hes been very good for a long time and outstanding for at least the last 4.
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Edwards has been a great player for us. He didnt take 6 years to come good it was quicker than that. Hes been very good for a long time and outstanding for at least the last 4.
Absolutely agree...he has been very good for many years and elite the last few years. Many couldn't see what he was doing early years with his ability to use his hands and set up others, they do now :shh
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Sheds' breakout year was 2010 and he went to a further level in H/A games in 2012 when he became a goalkicking mid kicking ~30 goals. The knock on him was his finals record where he was pretty ordinary in our 3 Elim Final losses averaging just 10 possies. He was seen as being too outside. That changed since 2017. He's now a big game player who can win the footy on the inside in traffic and then use his acceleration and hands to break the game open and deliver to teammates in space. Sheds is an elite footballer.
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I can’t remember where I watched or read it but they were talking about the fallout in 2016 and how they were going over his footage there were moments where he was seemingly handballing it to nowhere or missing targets. When they reviewed it I think it was both Caracalla and Hardwick asked why he did it he said something like I thought player X could have received it and it would
Have opened the game up. Sorry I will never do that again.
Instead they went actually you’re spot on. We let you down by not playing faster. We need link up players to put into reality the creative play in his mind.
AND BOY OH BOY AM I GLAD THEY DID!!!!His hands in tight are amazing. The amount of times I have had to pause and play what he does in slow motion is absolutely sublime
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Lol revisionism is alive and well.
I just laughed my way thru the first 80 pages and Edwards was being highly criticised by MOST posters right up to the end of 2014 or in this case the first 80 odd pages.
Without a doubt he had two short periods of good footy from 07 to 14 that being early 2010 and the last 12 or so games in 2012.
Im not going to say he was a dud early on but ffs he was for a big chunk of his games ordinary.
It is not his first 6 yrs its his first 8 yrs that really was questionable.
I suppose two premierships has people forget the first 8 yrs and as a premiership hero and legend he has always been a gun.
Will definately find the time to read the last half of this epic tale its bound to be as funny as the first one can only hope their is as much vitriol and mind changing in the back half as their was in the front half.
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I have always been a fan of Titch but everyone is right in hindsight.
I also thought Griff would be star but to be fair he had head injuries before they were fashionable
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Lol revisionism is alive and well.
I just laughed my way thru the first 80 pages and Edwards was being highly criticised by MOST posters right up to the end of 2014 or in this case the first 80 odd pages.
Without a doubt he had two short periods of good footy from 07 to 14 that being early 2010 and the last 12 or so games in 2012.
Im not going to say he was a dud early on but ffs he was for a big chunk of his games ordinary.
It is not his first 6 yrs its his first 8 yrs that really was questionable.
I suppose two premierships has people forget the first 8 yrs and as a premiership hero and legend he has always been a gun.
Will definately find the time to read the last half of this epic tale its bound to be as funny as the first one can only hope their is as much vitriol and mind changing in the back half as their was in the front half.
I think people are more so reflecting on the fact he was poorly coached and the team had a game plan which was not suited to his strengths. His 2015 season definitely showed that.
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Tigers observe protocols and send sick Edwards home
Anthony Colangelo
The Age
20 May 2020
Richmond star Shane Edwards was sent home on Tuesday because he felt ill with a sore stomach, illustrating the level of vigilance AFL clubs are taking as the competition resumes.
All AFL players were tested for coronavirus last week and there were no positive tests. Edwards trained on Monday, the first day players were allowed back at clubs.
Richmond expect the 31-year-old to recover. The most common symptoms of coronavirus are a fever, dry cough and tiredness.
The AFL's extensive return to play protocols emphasise the importance of good communication between players and club doctors if a player is at all sick, which Richmond have heeded in this instance.
"If you are feeling unwell, immediately remove yourself from the proximity of others and notify the club doctor," the protocols say.
"[If not at the club and you feel unwell] contact your club doctor immediately and stay away from the club and your teammates until you are advised further by the club doctor."
Players are being tested twice a week to determine whether they are free of the coronavirus, and therefore able to train and play. Contact training will commence on May 25 and games will begin on June 11.
AFL players are being expected to adhere to rules that are stricter than those of the general community.
They cannot surf, play golf or take their kids to a playground, and each player’s living arrangements need to be checked off the by the league to ensure they’re contact with people, like nurses or other at-risk workers, is managed.
The AFL describes the restrictions in the document as the "social licence" needed to gain the exemptions from government required to get the league back up and running after the coronavirus shutdown. It says the restrictions will be reviewed as the season goes on.
"We find ourselves in unprecedented territory," AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said in the document, while thanking the players for the sacrifices contained in the protocols.
"The purpose was to make sure we are reducing risks of COVID-19 transmission and spread in every way we can, so that we can gain government approval to engage in otherwise prohibited activities such as interstate travel, gathering in groups and have physical contact."
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-observe-protocols-and-send-sick-edwards-home-20200519-p54ueo.html
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Anyone know where Shedda is at, does he plan to come back
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Anyone know where Shedda is at, does he plan to come back
Still waiting on the birth of his 1st child
Baby due early August
Won't be back until then
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Anyone know where Shedda is at, does he plan to come back
Still waiting on the birth of his 1st child
Baby due early August
Won't be back until then
Induce the birth!
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Not being critical, but he could have come up and played atleast 3 or 4 games and then go to the birth of his baby.
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Not being critical, but he could have come up and played atleast 3 or 4 games and then go to the birth of his baby.
Agree, what else are sister or mother in laws are for?
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I think the Bub was supposed to come early. It’s a bit hard to predict these things and believe it or not, some things are more important than a game of footy
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I guess it goes Cade by case. Definitely massive respect for the sheds. I took the 2 weeks leading into my wife’s due date and then cashed in on 2 months Long service leave to be with my wife and first born child.
On the flip side one of my workmates went back to work 2 days after their child was born because he had experiments to do (he works in MS research)
To each their own. I hope their child arrives healthy and happy with no dramas
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Baby due this weekend according to Sam Edmund on SEN.
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Don't understand why he has missed 6 weeks if the baby was not due until this weekend.
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What’s there not to understand? He loves his wife and wanted to stay by her side when she is heavily pregnant?
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pfft....soft.... :shh
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pfft....soft.... :shh
No wife or kids yourself?
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I'd be surprised to see him again this year. He's only going ng to have 1 maybe 2 games before finals if we make it with 9-10 games missed. Think we need to look at other options
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Inb4 he will be like a new recruit next year.
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What’s there not to understand? He loves his wife and wanted to stay by her side when she is heavily pregnant?
Yeh bet that was a lot more fun than playing footy
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Third AFL transition hub to open the door for Ablett, Edwards returns
SEN
12 August 2020
The AFL will establish a third “transition hub” on the eve of finals.
The clubs were told yesterday that the league would provide a final olive branch for players to join the game in Queensland.
The hub will be set-up from September 1 – primarily for players at clubs in finals contention.
The home-and-away season is scheduled to finish on September 20.
Any players making the trip would then be expected to quarantine for 14 days, but would be permitted to train in isolation without coming in contact with teammates.
Richmond’s Shane Edwards remains in Melbourne where is awaiting the birth of his child.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/08/12/third-afl-transition-hub-to-open-the-door-for-ablett-edwards-returns/
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Problem is Edwards always takes about a month or so to shake off the rust...and he won't have a month this time.... :shh
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Can someone tell how long it takes to have a baby?
It seems this baby is taking the full 9 months to appear. :rollin
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Ch 7 news said the last AFL chartered flight for Sheds, Ablett and co. will be late August/early September. If the H/A season is ending on Sept. 20 then, after serving his 14-day quarantine, Sheds will probably only get Round 18 to play a game before finals.
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Gary Ablett is ready to get back to footy.
Keen to fly to the Gold Coast soon.
Geelong working on an earlier AFL flight.
Next one right now is September 1.
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun
Sheds is predicted to be on the same flight. If it's Sept. 1 then Sheds could only make his comeback in Round 18 after serving his 14-day quarantine. We need him back before Aug 28 for him to play Round 17 (Sept. 11 vs Geel).
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Congrats to Shane and his wife. They've had a baby girl, Mya
Not sure what is in the water at Punt road but there a lot of girls being born.
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Gonna have a lot of potential AFLW father-daughters in 18-20 years...too bad there won't be an AFLW... :shh
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:clapping.
Well done sheds congratulations!!!
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Gonna have a lot of potential AFLW father-daughters in 18-20 years...too bad there won't be an AFLW... :shh
There will be an AFLW
And it will be a poor quality spectacle with small crowds and overpaid players that will be getting paid via piggy backing off the income generated by the men
Sounds like tennis
Oh what horrible sexist pigs we all are
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Gonna have a lot of potential AFLW father-daughters in 18-20 years...too bad there won't be an AFLW... :shh
There will be an AFLW
And it will be a poor quality spectacle with small crowds and overpaid players that will be getting paid via piggy backing off the income generated by the men
Sounds like tennis
Oh what horrible sexist pigs we all are
Bit harsh on girls tennis Damo....
Horrible comparison Imo.
I can happy sit and watch a girls game of tennis, but watching girls play footy is not great.
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Gonna have a lot of potential AFLW father-daughters in 18-20 years...too bad there won't be an AFLW... :shh
There will be an AFLW
And it will be a poor quality spectacle with small crowds and overpaid players that will be getting paid via piggy backing off the income generated by the men
Sounds like tennis
Oh what horrible sexist pigs we all are
Bit harsh on girls tennis Damo....
Horrible comparison Imo.
I can happy sit and watch a girls game of tennis, but watching girls play footy is not great.
Actually the women often get more viewers on TV than the men, hence they bring the advertising $$$.
Especially when you have talented players like Sharapova, Kounikova etc. Would much prefer to watch them than Robot Federer haha
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Hardwick is hopeful star midfielder Shane Edwards could re-join the group early next month following the birth of his child.
"Great news for the Tiger faithful, Shane and Sam had a baby girl, Mya," Hardwick said.
"We'd love for him to be up on that plane on September 1 or September 3 or whenever that is."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/486379/tigers-reveal-bizarre-new-penalty-for-undisciplined-acts
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… the senior Tiger is aiming to arrive in Queensland early next month.
After serving a fortnight in quarantine, Edwards would be available to play against the Crows in the last round of the season before finals.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-expects-several-star-players-to-return-before-afl-finals/news-story/f579e6e0dc3d71ed5f36e4e486561507
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can someone explain why it is the september 1 or 3 plane he is stated as flying on? Is that titch decision?
Why wouldnt he come up in a week, have 2 weeks in quarantine, and be ready to go in 3.
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Bit of time with the bub probably
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Could be wrong but from how I read it, the AFL is only sending 1 last charter flight up and that’s on September 1st.
In any case the guy just had his first child, if he wants to stay with the baby and partner for the first 2-3 weeks or however long he wants then so be it.
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totally agree, though i think the reason is afl. cant be on a normal flight?
same flight as ablett too.
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totally agree, though i think the reason is afl. cant be on a normal flight?
same flight as ablett too.
Nope, deal AFL has with the QLD govt is AFL charters flights to meet the strict protocols in place. Especially the need to keep AFL people separate from the others. Chartered flights guarantee that.
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totally agree, though i think the reason is afl. cant be on a normal flight?
same flight as ablett too.
Nope, deal AFL has with the QLD govt is AFL charters flights to meet the strict protocols in place. Especially the need to keep AFL people separate from the others. Chartered flights guarantee that.
:thumbsup Of course makes sense
thats why he and ablett will be on the same plane i guess.
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totally agree, though i think the reason is afl. cant be on a normal flight?
same flight as ablett too.
Nope, deal AFL has with the QLD govt is AFL charters flights to meet the strict protocols in place. Especially the need to keep AFL people separate from the others. Chartered flights guarantee that.
:thumbsup Of course makes sense
thats why he and ablett will be on the same plane i guess.
The other thing I just read is that if Ablett or any AFL player goes on a non chartered then they have to do hotel quarantine, not the specially arranged hubs. Meaning he can't leave the hotel and train like other players could when they first get up there
Ch7 saying Geolong are "negotiating" with the AFL to get special exemption for Junior
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Hocking will get it over the line with a fondling to boot
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Sheds a chance to be in Queensland on Friday according to Caro.
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Edwards & Ablett have been speaking for past two weeks.
They've agreed to fly up to Qld together early, live & train together until quarantine period is over. They are hoping for special dispensation like Dannii Minogue so not locked in a hotel room for two weeks. They'll have a trainer/coach. Geelong sponsor to pay for and organise accommodation.
Gale & Cook have sent joint submission to the AFL to get both Sheds & GAJ up to Qld on Friday so they can play in the R17 Rich vs Geel game.
We will find out tomorrow (Thursday).
If submission fails (Caro expects it might) then they both have to wait to Sept. 1 flight.
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Edwards & Ablett have been speaking for past two weeks.
They've agreed to fly up to Qld together early, live & train together until quarantine period is over. They are hoping for special dispensation like Dannii Minogue so not locked in a hotel room for two weeks. They'll have a trainer/coach. Geelong sponsor to pay for and organise accommodation.
Gale & Cook have sent joint submission to the AFL to get both Sheds & GAJ up to Qld on Friday so they can play in the R17 Rich vs Geel game.
We will find out tomorrow (Thursday).
If submission fails (Caro expects it might) then they both have to wait to Sept. 1 flight.
Sounds great, except that poor Shedda will need to hang out with Ablett for two weeks.
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“And now we pray”... :pray
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SEN saying the argument against the proposal is the cost & logistics for quarantining just two players.
But if a Geelong sponsor is paying for it all then that shouldn't be a prob.
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Ch9 just said the submission has been rejected.
So Sheds & Ablett won't get up to Qld until Sept. 1.
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Ch9 just said the submission has been rejected.
So Sheds & Ablett won't get up to Qld until Sept. 1.
Yep no issue with it, right call by HQ IMV
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I imagine Sheds would be gutted he is not playing tonight😢😢
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Boys wore #10 warm-up shirts as a tribute :thumbsup
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Sheds flying up to Qld tomorrow (Tuesday).
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Thank goodness. Can't wait to see this guy back in the team.
Hope he's got!
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Hardwick said Shane Edwards, who flew with a major AFL contingent to Brisbane on Tuesday and will quarantine for a fortnight, will train with Geelong's Gary Ablett in their hub before joining their respective clubs. Edwards is likely to rejoin the senior side in time for the final home-and-away clash against Adelaide.
source: The Age (https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/cotchin-considered-leaving-hub-for-home-hardwick-20200901-p55r99.html)
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In other news, Biggie is training in quarantine with Sheds (plus Ablett & Hannebery).
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/ab783ae89205ef229e00a61c4e9f3e6c)
Three premiership stars on a 30m pitch: Inside 2020‘s most bizarre training session
September 4, 2020 10:57am
Tom Morris
Foxsports
GOLD COAST – Thursday’s training session involving Gary Ablett, Shane Edwards and Dan Hannebery was hardly unusual compared to the rest of 2020.
But 12 months ago, three guns flicking the ball between them while in lockdown at a Gold Coast resort would have been considered fanciful.
But there they were on Thursday morning for an hour – five premierships and 12 All-Australian gongs between them, being put through their paces by Richmond assistant Sam Lonergan, Geelong counterpart Andrew Mackie, and St Kilda physio Andrew Wallis.
The backdrop was a golf course, a lake and Queensland‘s pearl blue sky. Any football booted more than roughly 35 metres would go over the wire fencing and become legally irretrievable. Precise skills were essential.
Completed on a patch of grass marginally smaller than the centre square, Ablett, Edwards and Hannebery worked together for the first time in the AFL’s Gold Coast transition hub.
They were accompanied by 19-year-old Tiger Bigoa ‘Biggie’ Nyuon for some running at the start, before the Kenyan born youngster stepped aside as he continued his recovery from a shoulder injury.
Former Cricket Australia CEO and Geelong board member James Sutherland watched on, while his 16-year-old son Tom – a talented athlete himself – acted as a ball boy. Injured Saint Jade Gresham watched from the side but didn’t participate as he recovers from a back injury which will likely see him miss the rest of the season.
The session began with some sprints diagonally across the grass patch, in order to maximise the space. It was roughly six seconds of hard running followed by nine seconds of rest. Over and over again.
Edwards, Hannebery and Ablett then started doing some light skills work, kicking in a triangle. They used each other’s nicknames: Shedda, Hanners and Gaz, as if they were long-time teammates rather than opponents.
“It was pretty surreal,” Edwards said of training alongside Ablett after the session.
“It is actually something I will probably reflect back on and think what an unbelievable opportunity. You know so much about him and haven’t really met him properly. He’s an amazing bloke. I will try to learn as much as I can off him.
“His skills are really sharp and he’s really powerful. I was more of a spectator out there to be honest.”
Mackie, Ablett, Edwards and Hannebery then played a game of keepings off. The two defenders – Wallis and Lonergan – had little chance of winning the Sherrin back.
There were leading drills, quick hands, ground balls, competitive one-on-ones and at one stage Hannebery hit Mackie lace out on the chest with his non-preferred boot.
“Woo! The right footer,” Hannebery yelled with delight.
Lonergan is best known for his 79 games at Essendon but he also played two matches with Richmond and returned to Punt Road as a development coach late last year.
He and Mackie combined their preferred sessions to benefit all three players.
“The coaches just come up with what they want us to do,” Edwards said.
“We roughly did similar drills with what we do back at the club. I’m not sure what the following sessions will be like. The coaches will deal with that and we will have a laugh and train hard.”
In what was surely a surreal moment for Nyuon, who the Tigers swooped on despite being part of St Kilda’s Academy, he finished the session with some more sprints alongside Ablett.
Nyuon had not turned one when Ablett made his debut for Geelong and will never play against him, but the little master was happy to chat and laugh with the teenager after the session.
Hannebery is back to full training and moved well, showing no signs of a dodgy hamstring which has put a large dent in his season. To get to his prescribed running loads, the Sydney premiership player ran laps at the end after giving his legs a rest on Wednesday.
Both he and Edwards haven’t been seen at the senior level since Round 5, while Ablett’s last game was Round 7.
All three will make themselves available for selection in Round 18, which will be just days after they escape the transition hub.
Edwards, who has a three-week old girl keeping him up at night, conceded the ground was small, but dismissed any concerns around preparation.
“We’ve had a large training block back in Melbourne and the other guys have as well,” he said.
“Right now, we’ve finished our month of really hard training so we are due for a few lighter sessions. We’ve planned it so our training doesn’t have to be huge with long runs and long kicks. We use it as a tune up and also stay sharp with contested stuff and small movements in a small area.
“I was always going to come back. The plans obviously changed when they decided the season was going to stay up here. That made it harder to get back. The due date of the baby came and things like that.
“The plan was always going to come back and play.”
The decorated trio plans to train again together over the next 12 days.
Edwards added: “I think maybe four or five sessions together. It depends if the schedules line up. If we are training on the same day we will probably train together.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/three-premiership-stars-on-a-30m-pitch-inside-2020s-most-bizarre-training-session/news-story/48af92de401695cfc7157d232fca6160
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Isn’t Nyuon injured and out for the season?
Is he their for support?
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Edwards enjoys 'surreal' training session with Geelong rival Ablett
By Jake Niall
The Age
September 5, 2020
Richmond's Shane Edwards had what he described as the "surreal" experience of training with Gary Ablett in the AFL's Queensland transition hub, as the pair prepare to rejoin their respective premiership contenders for finals.
Edwards said training with Ablett - who joined him and St Kilda's Dan Hannebery for a session on Friday within the confined spaces at the transition hub - represented an "unbelievable opportunity" that had rendered him a spectator.
"It's pretty surreal," Edwards said of his morning training with Ablett on the Gold Coast.
"It's actually something that I'll probably reflect back at the end of my career and think what an unbelievable opportunity. You know so much about him, but I haven't really met him properly. He's just an amazing bloke and I'm going to try and learn as much as I can off him.
Edwards, asked to compare his very brief training experience with Ablett to doing the same with Richmond champion Dustin Martin, said: "From what I've seen, from our one session together, they're pretty clean and they've got pretty good skills, they're just really sharp and powerful, it's everything you see on the oval.
"I was more of a spectator out there, to be honest."
Edwards, who had stayed in Melbourne for the birth of his now three-week old daughter, expected to be back with the Tigers in round 18 "barring any mishaps".
Ablett, Edwards and Hannebery trained in a very small grass area of about 80 metres in length and less than 50 metres in width - a confinement that restricted the nature of their training. They were guided by ex-Cat and recruiting official at Geelong, Andrew Mackie, and former Bomber and Tiger Sam Lonergan.
"I suppose we've had a large training block already back home in Melbourne and the other guys have as well," said Edwards.
"We've finished our month of really hard training so we're due for a few lighter sessions ... our training here doesn't really have to be huge, you know, with long runs and long kicks and stuff. So we'll use it as a tune-up and also stay sharp with contested stuff.
Edwards, speaking prior to the news breaking of his teammates' early-morning escapades outside a strip club, said of the Tigers' progress: "We're going alright at the moment ... there's still things we need to improve on, obviously making the most of our dominance going inside 50. But yeah, we're still learning and fine tuning our game plan."
Edwards said he had always planned to return to the team.
"I was going to come back. The plans obviously changed when they decided the season was going to stay up here. Plus when the due date of the baby came," he said.
His daughter had "been awake all night, every night" since her birth.
Edwards and Ablett would be spectators, too, when the Cats and Tigers meet next week, and the Richmond veteran wasn't keen to have a dig at Ablett about that game.
"I don't want to start something he can finish," he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/edwards-enjoys-surreal-training-session-with-geelong-rival-ablett-20200904-p55sjv.html
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Isn’t Nyuon injured and out for the season?
Is he their for support?
Biggie is still listed on our injury list as long term with a shoulder. I'd guess he can still run laps.
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He's backkkkkkkk! :thumbsup
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1305647416704557057
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Welcome back Champ :bow. First game back and Sheds racks up 8 clearances playing only 72% gametime :o.
18 disposals (11k, 7k, 12c, 7u, 89% eff.)
4 marks
3 tackles
8 clearances
4 centre clearances
3 inside 50s
2 intercepts
3 score involvements
306m gained
1 goal assist
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BOG for me
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Star
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BARRETT: The psychological edge that has Tigers primed for another flag
Shane Edwards on how the Tigers are preparing for this year's finals series
By Damian Barrett
afl.com.au
28 September 2020
FOR SHANE Edwards, the Richmond premiership success of two of the past three seasons, combined with a shock failure in between, allows a simple luxury as he enters the 2020 Toyota AFL Finals Series.
It is the ability to block out thoughts and emotions which just don't matter in the lead-in to a finals series, and to focus on the ones that do.
The 2017-2018-2019 experiences have provided the Tigers with lessons unmatched by their seven rivals in the 2020 finals series – the 2017 premiership coming amid a whirl of emotion attached to 37 years of flag failure and the 2019 victory arriving a season after being ambushed in a preliminary final.
Edwards, who played his first match since round five in Richmond's round 18 win against Adelaide, said being able to draw on the outcomes of those three seasons was mind-settling as he prepared for Friday's qualifying final against Brisbane and the events beyond it.
"Now I'm able to visualise what it's going to be like, and I suppose the more finals you play, the more you can visualise," Edwards told AFL.com.au.
"And the other thing is, you don't really put too many thoughts into things that don't matter. We're saving a lot of thoughts that don’t mean anything right now throughout this week and by the time you actually get to the game, you haven't drained yourself on what could be.
"It takes the whole year to prepare for it. If I think back to 2017, we had the benefit of being the underdog and of having a raw emotion of just being in the finals. We don't have that any more, with expectations."
Richmond's opponent on Friday night at the Gabba will have a far different psychological preparation for the qualifying final, due to its losses to the Tigers in round 23 last year, again the following week in the same second-versus-third first week final, and in round 10 this season when it managed a horrendously inaccurate 4.17 in a 41-point loss.
Those latter two matches saw Brisbane kick a combined 12.34 (it was 8.17 to 18.4 in the 2019 preliminary final), a statistic and scenario which, unlike Edwards and Richmond, would seemingly be menacingly bouncing around at least in the backs of the minds of Lions players.
Of the eight teams in the 2020 finals, three – the Tigers, Eagles and Bulldogs – have secured recent premierships. According to Edwards, though, it was the 2018 season, ended for the Tigers after a Mason Cox blitz for Collingwood in a preliminary final, which rounded out the gamut of finals teachings.
"Having the 2018 experience has also probably helped the way we go about things as well, as unfortunate as that was for us," Edwards said.
"Seeing it go wrong, and seeing it go right gives us a well-rounded experience, knowing that if you're just 10 minutes off in any given quarter can end your whole season, no matter how well you've done everything else.
"Little things like that. We didn’t know that in 2017, didn't know that in 2018, but in 2019 we definitely knew it. It is a just a little thing you add to what we're doing. We're playing teams that have been in the finals a lot, so it's not as though it's our little secret, everyone knows it, but it's who executes the best."
Edwards said while his thoughts were under control, his drive to win another premiership was as fierce as pre-2017.
"Honestly, we are as hungry as we've ever been, personally it feels like we are going into 2017 again, and it's kind of like we're an underdog given what we've been through, and no matter what favouritism there is out there, it feels to me that there are teams out there as easily as good as we are," he said.
"And no matter what we have won, we want this one as much as the others."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/511335/barrett-the-psychological-edge-that-has-tigers-primed-for-another-flag
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A special touch from the Tigers had Shane Edwards dreaming of flag success
Courtney Walsh
Sports Reporter
The Australian
September 30, 2020
Shane Edwards had never felt more special in his life than when a message arrived from his mates while he was sitting on his Melbourne couch a month ago.
The Tiger has won two premierships. He is an All Australian. He is revered within his club for the selfless roles he has performed for more than a decade and respected by rivals similarly.
Edwards stayed in Melbourne with his pregnant partner Samantha when Richmond headed off in early July to spend the rest of their premiership defence on the road.
Shortly before the Dreamtime game in Darwin against Essendon on August 22, his phone buzzed.
It was a photo of his teammates wearing the black warm-up jumpers — part of their recognition of the Black Lives Matter cause — they had worn the entirety of this season.
But there was a difference. Each jumper had No 10 on it. It turned out the Tigers were missing him as well.
“The boys all posed for a little picture together and sent it to me. I thought, ‘That’s weird. They are wearing No 10.’ But I didn’t understand why they were wearing it,” he told The Australian.
“And then they told me why and it made me feel really special. I don’t think I have ever felt that special before. It was unbelievable. They didn’t have to do that, but it just made me feel a part of it.
“They wanted to show how much they liked me and appreciated me as a teammate. I am 14 years into my career and it still blows me away. I am truly grateful for it. Even now, I think it is an unbelievable thing.”
Edwards, who has played more games for Richmond than any other Indigenous player to represent the club, said the gesture is indicative of the attention to detail that has helped Richmond become a formidable side over the past four seasons.
“Just with the situation we are in, you can feel like you are not really a part of it for a while. There is only so much talking on the phone and watching that you can do,” he said.
“But just to know how much they were thinking of me, especially at that time, was unbelievable. That is what we have got at Richmond. It is unbelievable. But it is not unbelievable for us to do (those things). That is why we are the club we are.”
Edwards is now a proud father to daughter Mya and rejoined the Tigers just over a fortnight ago on the Gold Coast after spending two weeks in the AFL’s transition hub.
Fatherhood, he said, was everything he had anticipated and more.
“It is just surreal. You can do all the research you want but nothing really prepares you for having a daughter,” he said.
“You know something massive is on the way and when we first met her it was just surreal. It hasn’t really worn off. It truly is life-changing.”
The sample size is small _ one match _ but Edwards said he felt completely at ease when resuming in the round 18 clash against the Crows given his broader perspective on life.
The 31-year-old produced a strong performance, which is scarcely surprising given the shape he appeared in while training alongside Gary Ablett Jnr and Daniel Hannebery during the transition hub.
Former Bomber and Tiger Sam Lonergan helped Edwards remain in shape during the time he was away from his teammates and ensured he was ready to fire when free to play.
Edwards, who was runner-up to Dion Prestia in Richmond’s best-and-fairest last year, rated the intensity of those sessions above what he would experience in games.
He feels fitter than ever as he prepares for the 262nd match of his career. This will occur in Friday night’s preliminary final against Brisbane at the Gabba.
Edwards also wonders whether the mid-season spell might prove a silver lining and be something that helps elongate his career in coming years.
“I definitely don’t feel my age. I am turning 32 in October, but I feel like I am stronger and faster and more hungry than I have ever been,” he said.
“It is a bit annoying that I have to say how old I am, because I actually feel like I am in my mid-20s at the moment.
“I don’t know how this year is going to affect me physically, because missing a chunk of games while being fit is something that (not) many blokes would have done in the AFL, so whether it prolongs my career a little bit, who knows.
“But I am really not thinking too far ahead at the moment. I am just making sure my body is right.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/a-special-touch-from-the-tigers-had-shane-edwards-dreaming-of-flag-success/news-story/9cfb1e7cb6605784a3d77fb08469f525
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Shane Edwards
Used it well even if most of his touches didn’t gain too much metreage. Another who was thereabouts but not at the level Tigers fans have become accustomed to.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-second-qualifying-final-reviews-stats-tigers-best-and-worst-players/news-story/156df1b76297836ac1f12af8237ff86c)
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Sheds won the TV from Ch7 for B.O.G.
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10 contested, we missed him when injured, still under-rated by some
Allowed Bolton to play small forward
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Best on ground for me.
Next best Nankervis.
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That snap goal without looking :D
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Champion. Should be talked about with the rest of this golden era.
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Such a gun.
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Was incredible. If Port can’t shut him down then look out
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Shane Edwards
Edwards continues to fly under the radar and the onballer showed why he is such a crucial player in Richmond’s push for the flag. He booted the second goal of the game and ended with over 20 disposals, winning the ball in the clearances and spreading well around the ground.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-st-kilda-second-semi-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/afdeaa6b7f13cced41d21c91e03b900e)
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7?!
He was BOG.
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Titch is a sensational footballer. If hardwick had to pick his best ever 6 players hes coached it would be Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Rance, Edwards and Grimes imho.
Would make a great memorabilia piece too. Ive got Tommys Guns memorabilia print maybe its Time for Dimmas Stars.
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How great is Sheds? His short pass to George that set up a goal early in the last quarter snuffed any hope the Saints may have had, it was actually the sealer, the icing on the cake!
He is just so quick thinking in the packs, so creative & inventive. Truly one of the most gifted players out there. :clapping
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7?!
He was BOG.
Yep easily BOG
A 9 from me
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Highest-rated players
Shane Edwards (Richmond): Pure class, this bloke, and somehow still underrated even though everyone constantly says how underrated he is. 21 disposals, five clearances, seven score involvements and two goals is a heck of a night, and keep in mind we’re playing 20 per cent less game time with the shorter quarters this season, so that’s even better than it sounds.
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-trade-news-semi-finals-review-press-conference-geelong-defeats-collingwood-richmond-defeats-st-kilda/news-story/1bc60e355e9550d872739140dc330e31)
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7?!
He was BOG.
Yep easily BOG
A 9 from me
Agree.
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Shane Edwards
Once again his poise was crucial in a big game and had a lot of his footy at the coal face heading towards the offensive half. Not a barnstorming game, but yet another person who just plays their role for this side.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
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Shane Edwards – 8
Seemingly brought his own dry footy while others struggled to adjust to the wet ground. As always, he played smart, often soccering the ball off the ground to gain territory. One blot was an uncharacteristic missed goal in the third term, but finished with a game-high nine clearances.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/521174/tigers-player-ratings-no-passengers-on-the-tiger-train)
Shane Edwards
Had four clearances in the opening term as one of Richmond’s best early in the match. Edwards continued to bob up right around the ground and have a number of crucial inside 50s, ending with a game-high 27 disposals.
Rating: 8
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-dustin-martin-player-ratings-tigers-stats-best-and-worst-players-afl-finals-gabba/news-story/2c23bd9c6b85150e3f828938dc9c0006)
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Keeps getting better.
One of our finest players and up there with MR as one of our greatest indigenous player.
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People will generally list dusty, cotch, rance and jack as the champion players in our premierships but this guy is well and truly their equal. Another epic performance from shedda!
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People will generally list dusty, cotch, rance and jack as the champion players in our premierships but this guy is well and truly their equal. Another epic performance from shedda!
5th beatle :shh
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A big game player who never gives up. A true champion.
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People will generally list dusty, cotch, rance and jack as the champion players in our premierships but this guy is well and truly their equal. Another epic performance from shedda!
5th beatle :shh
Shedda is the drummer with the big nose , what’s his name again
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People will generally list dusty, cotch, rance and jack as the champion players in our premierships but this guy is well and truly their equal. Another epic performance from shedda!
5th beatle :shh
Shedda is the drummer with the big nose , what’s his name again
Ring STARR
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Work really hard , leading possession winner on the ground, great bloke and amazing player . A big piece of the tiger success story
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The tough stuff he does, especially his bumps, underrated.
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It’s amazing how we had this gem all along and he was under utilised. The 2016/2017 turning point where the club realised they need to run harder and faster and be more switched on to his hands. Dimma likened him to Burgoyne which is an amazing compliment. Edwards definitely brings silk in the thick of things for us at times!
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100 coffees, Mya and mum: Next on Edwards’ fairytale list
REECE HOMFRAY
CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
THE ADVERTISER
OCTOBER 26, 2020
Shane Edwards missed the moment his baby daughter Mya met her grandfather for the first time in the stands at the Gabba while he was busy winning a third premiership with Richmond on Saturday night.
But the silver lining was that his mum Tara didn’t make the trip to Brisbane from Adelaide which is where Edwards is going next.
“My father (Greg) met my daughter for the first time in the stands tonight, so I had enough emotional baggage going into the game as it was, and I’m glad Dimma didn’t fall back on using family as motivation because I don’t reckon I could have handled it,” Edwards told The Advertiser.
“I got to see my old man and brother Kym after the game, but my mum didn’t come over which I’m rapt about now because now I actually get to see her meet our little daughter Mya.
“I missed my old man seeing her, and I would have loved to see him shed a tear over something, it’s their first grandchild but now I get to see mum (in that moment).
“We’re going to Adelaide now and are going to stay there for as long as we possibly can.
“There’s two things I want to do - I want to hug my mum and see all my family, and I want to sit at a cafe and have 100 coffees because we haven’t been able to sit down anywhere for months.
“We’re not having a mad Monday with beers, we’re going to a cafe and have breakfast for a few hours.”
As the Tigers went into the Queensland hub in July, Edwards stayed home in Melbourne with his pregnant partner Sam with the full support of the football club.
“I wasn’t torn to start with because every player they all just embraced that I was staying back,” Edwards said.
“I thought it was just going to be a month and it ended up being all year.
“The call was easy in hindsight but really hard on seeing the boys winning, then losing and you feel like you can help but you can’t, and I didn’t know what a bubble or a hub was like.
“But at the same time you’re in lockdown at home, I couldn’t leave the hospital once the birth happened, if I left I couldn’t come back, I stayed there for about five days and we had a week-and-a-half to figure out how to look after a baby and we were in quarantine (in Queensland in late August).
“But it was the best thing for us because we had all the families in quarantine helping us out. We had to understand how to feed a baby and getting to the hub was awesome because we were around families who had a lot of kids.
“I’m talking about being in a situation with Anna Betts, Jordan Ablett, Elisha Grimes all helping us out at some point with our baby.
“Anna Betts is a lactation consultant, they were there to have a chat, they reassured us if we thought something was going wrong, it was actually awesome.”
Edwards, 31, played in Round 5 then missed 11 games before returning to the Tigers’ side for the last minor round game against Adelaide in Round 18.
But he lost none of his class and in Saturday’s grand final against Geelong he had a game-high 27 disposals and nine clearances.
“The doubts and concerns were there the whole time but at least I was allowed to train (in Melbourne), so I thought ‘I’m going to train as hard as I can and put myself in the best position possible if Dimma wants to pick me with one game to finals’.
“And the least I could possibly do was train my arse off while all my teammates were sacrificing in a bubble.
“I had coaches like Sam Lonergan and our chief Benny Gale and list manager Blair Hartley were my training partners, they all got injured at some point and made it as game-like as possible and they didn’t hold back on the hard work but kept me confident and upbeat.”
“I was surrounded by great people who didn’t give up any hope.”
Nearly two hours after the final siren on Saturday night, Edwards stood on the Gabba and the euphoria of a third AFL premiership for the kid from Golden Grove in Adelaide’s northern suburbs had not worn off.
“I can’t believe it, I feel like the last four years have just gone so quick,” he said.
“I never would have thought. I remember looking at Hawthorn and Brisbane Lions and thought ‘how the hell do they do that?’
“There are so many things stopping you winning a premiership and somehow we’ve gotten there and done it and I can’t see us dropping our hunger any time soon.
“But hunger can only get you so far in a game, we’re trying 100 per cent all game every game and we’ve had a few players come in over the years and have given us a spark, and we always feel like the team is a new team.
“This year we found Noah Balta, Shai Bolton, Liam Baker has gone to another level and they’re under 21, you could argue at certain points of the year they’ve been our best players.
“Next year they’re going to be a year older and some other guys will come up from underneath and us old guys better watch our backs.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/100-coffees-mya-and-mum-next-on-edwards-fairytale-list/news-story/6d933076037ec93d0e517c8268494ca4
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No rest for vintage Edwards
He was arguably Richmond’s best player in the narrow loss to the Demons, with his trademark slick, quick hands still a sight to behold (if you were quick enough to see them in action).
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/870888/no-rest-for-vintage-edwards
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“Shaun Burgoyne is the oldest player in the league at 38. I’ve got the next bloke who’s still five and a half years away from turning 38, but he’ll make it – Shane Edwards,” Brereton said on SEN.
“He’s 32 and his fleet of foot, his sidestep, his agility, his nimbleness, he has lost nothing.
“He’s 32 and he may as well be 18.
“I can see him playing another five or six seasons.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/888000/brereton-s-bold-shedda-prediction
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I hope so. He (Edwards) still looks quite nimble but Burgoyne has a very different build.
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The issue for 30+ year old vets is soft tissue injuries. One significant one and it can suddenly be all over in an instant which is what happened to Richo and Campbell.
Form wise Sheds is still going great guns. Touchwood his body holds up for another two years as he's 34 games off reaching a well-deserved 300 :pray.
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Oh no, the Dermie kiss of death...
Martin is a waddler, Aaron James will be the next Carey....
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Oh no, the Dermie kiss of death...
Martin is a waddler, Aaron James will be the next Carey....
:lol Excellent Wayne. I also remember him having both those stupid predictions.
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Leppitsch looked back on Round 2 and ... positional changes that he really liked.
“The other one was probably the unheralded one on the weekend, Shane Edwards going back for Richmond. They lost Nick Vlastuin and gee his hands and his ability to create for other people, I thought that was a really good move.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/03/29/leppitschs-left-field-suggestion-on-how-sydney-can-stop-dusty/)
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column today:
IF ...
it is possible to get better at the age of 32 in your 15th season, having already reached All-Australian highs ...
THEN ...
come on down, Shane Edwards. Among the best people in footy, too.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/574700/sliding-doors-if-you-are-nathan-buckley-then
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WHY EDWARDS FEELS EMBARRASSED TO JOIN ILLUSTRIOUS RICHMOND LIST
Andrew Slevison
SEN
2 April 2021
Shane Edwards will join a prestigious group when he runs out for the Richmond Football Club this Saturday.
The triple premiership star’s career tally ticks over to 268 games when the Tigers meet the Sydney Swans at the MCG.
This puts Edwards, 32, in equal 10th position on the club’s all-time games list, joining former club captain Chris Newman.
The classy and versatile All-Australian now sits behind such names as Kevin Bartlett, Jack Dyer, Francis Bourke, Wayne Campbell, Jack Titus, Jack Riewoldt, Matthew Richardson, Matthew Knights and Dale Weightman, which he admits is somewhat awkward.
“It feels a bit embarrassing being a part of that list,” he said on SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“I’m sure if we compared the good games played it’s probably a bit different.
“It’s been a wild ride. I’ve seen a few wooden spoons and a few premierships, I’ve seen it all.”
The man affectionately known as both ‘Titch’ and ‘Shedda’ over his 15-year career in yellow and black concedes that he’s been more than happy to take a backseat to some of the club’s modern day stars.
One of those being fellow 2006 draftee Jack Riewoldt, who Edwards sits 18 games behind, and is continuing to play some quality footy at 32.
“If flying under the radar means I get to play with some superstars then I’d take that every day of the week,” he added.
“There’s one name on that list that’s pretty happy to be above me and that’s Jack Riewoldt. I’m still chasing that one.
“He’s dominating, he doesn’t look like he’s slowing up anytime soon. He’s definitely got a few more games in him, Jack.”
Along with entering Richmond’s top echelon, Edwards is set to equal former Brisbane Lion Darryl White in eighth spot for most games played by an Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Island footballer in VFL/AFL history.
Edwards made his debut in 2007 and has tallied 15 or more games in 13 of his 14 seasons prior to 2021.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/04/01/why-edwards-feels-embarrassed-to-join-illustrious-richmond-list/
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Shane Edwards; Richmond Inner Sanctum; RSN Breakfast show 7th April 2021:
Listen here: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=811661
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Sheds is now in the top 10 for all-time games played for the Tigers :clapping.
1. Kevin Bartlett, 403
2. Jack Dyer, 312
3. Francis Bourke, 300
4. Wayne Campbell, 297
5. Jack Titus, 294
6. Jack Riewoldt, 287
7. Matthew Richardson, 282
8. Matthew Knights, 279
9. Dale Weightman, 274
10. Shane Edwards, 269
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/903886/-shedda-shifts-into-elite-tigers-top-10-list
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Champion. Think he’ll be second on that list when all is said and done.
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Sheds is all class. Absolutely killed it tonight. Destroyed the Saints in the centre and topped off his game by that over the shoulder freak goal in the 3rd qtr. What a superstar :bow.
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Sheds is all class. Absolutely killed it tonight. Destroyed the Saints in the centre and topped off his game by that over the shoulder freak goal in the 3rd qtr. What a superstar :bow.
^^^^this.
Like a good wine, getting better with age
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Couldn't wipe the smile off my face. I love this bloke. What a ripper guy too (post game chat)
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Very humble man. A true champion. Great to see him in the middle.
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:[/b]
IF ...
Shane Edwards had tips through the hair and a body full of ink ...
THEN ...
maybe the footy industry would view him as it should have a very long time ago: a genuine superstar, and as crucial as any individual to the dominance of the Tigers in the past five years. But the last thing he has ever wanted is public acclaim.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/593973/if-shaun-has-had-an-incredible-impact-in-many-many-matches-then
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Garry Lyon and Tim Watson's six most underrated players:
Watson’s ranking
1. Cunnington
2. Parker
3. Shuey
4. Edwards
5. Sloane
6. Lyons
Lyon’s ranking
1. Shuey
2. Edwards
3. Parker
4. Cunnington
5. Sloane
6. Lyons
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/04/20/ranking-the-six-most-underrated-players-in-the-afl/
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Was easily our bog for mine... :shh
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Yep. Looked lonely out there.
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what is this garbage about his "hit" on oliver
footage?
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what is this garbage about his "hit" on oliver
footage?
Not sure
But I wouldn't be too disappointed if someone did "hit" Oliver
Took a dive in the last after the melee
Show pony
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Just thought I'd drop in to see how everyone thinks Shedda is going? :gotigers
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5. Shane Edwards (Richmond)
“He’s one of the best players in the competition and super consistent.”
“He can play back, he can play midfield, he can play forward and kicks goals. He does everything for the Tigers.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/03/who-are-the-seven-best-multi-position-players-in-the-afl/
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Just thought I'd drop in to see how everyone thinks Shedda is going? :gotigers
Largely good. Few clangers but still doing serious damage.
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Ankle injury. Any news yet on how bad?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0yL9y4VgAok3Js?format=jpg&name=large)
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Here's how Sheds injured his ankle.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/EdwardsAnkleInjury.gif.gif)
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Hopefully just rolled and sprained
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According to Sam Edmunds on SEN:
Shane Edwards
“This is a bit of a watch for Richmond at the moment,” he said.
“He hurt his ankle and know he couldn’t finish the game, there’s fears of a syndesmosis injury, he’s yet to be scammed.
“But again, the expectation and hope is that the injury is on the minor end.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/08/sam-edmund-provides-latest-injury-update-on-edwards-ratugloea-and-more/
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Not good news just released from the Club :(.
Shane Edwards has a significant medial ligament sprain.
He will be unavailable for the medium term.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1390936993060687874
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Top 10 pick here we come.... :clapping
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What timeframe are we looking at? 4-6?
Where is the doc? Ooh that's right he left as someone here ratted on the bloke :banghead :banghead
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What timeframe are we looking at? 4-6?
Something like that. Medium to me means anywhere between 4-8 weeks :P.
When you add on returning to post-recovery training to regain fitness it sounds like for different reasons it's going to be like last year where we don't regain Sheds until later in the H/A season.
Where is the doc? Ooh that's right he left as someone here ratted on the bloke :banghead :banghead
I wish doc would return too but, as has been mentioned previously, it wasn't someone from OER that ratted. OER was never contacted either by this individual nor the Club. There are those higher up the food chain who keep an eye on what is posted (or what they interpret was posted) on fan forums. They may even be aware of who a poster is in real life and put two and two together.
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Too true, it was a coincidence that a lot of posters were invited to a forum at RFC boardroom without the club monitoring Richmond fan sites. I wish Doc and my brother among others would return as they were also a good read .
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Dimma said Sheds will miss 2-3 weeks.
Dimma added that Sheds has a history of healing quickly so we hope to have him back a.s.a.p.
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Great to have Sheds back :thumbsup.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/950982/-something-i-ll-remember-forever-edwards
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Barrett's 'Sliding Door's column today:
IF ...
he was required to hit the road and drive up the Hume to Sydney this week to join his Tigers teammates before they fly to Perth for Saturday's Dreamtime match...
THEN ...
that's a walk in the park for Shane Edwards and a return to football after injury. Last year he was stuck in quarantine for 14 days with access only to a 45m x 40m patch of grass before returning to dominate in another premiership.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/624854/if-you-re-stopping-the-all-australian-key-forward-debate-now-then
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Tiger star Shane Edwards' personal journey.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/i-almost-felt-like-i-wasn-t-indigenous-enough-tiger-star-s-personal-journey-20210602-p57xhr.html
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Can’t hit a target by hand or foot so far tonight
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Shedda to become an AFL life member this week with his 300th official game, after 276 premiership, 22 pre-season, one state game.
https://twitter.com/RFCPremiersDays/status/1409270413687918592
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Shedda to become an AFL life member this week with his 300th official game, after 276 premiership, 22 pre-season, one state game.
https://twitter.com/RFCPremiersDays/status/1409270413687918592
276 Premierships would be a record that would stand for a while!?!?!?!?
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Dimma said post-game that Sheds has been banged up all year and is hanging tough for us at the moment.
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Sheds has pulled up sore after the game last night. So potentially another one who could miss next week :P.
Source: Ch 7 arvo news.
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Hardwick was optimistic Edwards (ankle) would miss just one week.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/644253/dimma-hopeful-spluttering-tigers-can-flick-the-switch-)
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Dimma today talking about Sheds:
He's important and he comes back injury-free, too," Hardwick said.
"Shane's had one of those years where he's played some games but he's been banged-up, to be honest, so we look forward to having him back at his best, but it might take a week or two for him to hit his very best form.
"We know when he's playing his very best footy we're certainly a better team for it. He'll play some midfield and some forward.
"He's such an important player (because) he makes everyone around him better, as well. It's a big win for us to have him back."
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-underdogs-for-mcg-clash-with-cats-c-3483925)
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Pick the stuffing ball up! #AirswingEdwards :banghead
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Clearly not fit
Not sure why he's playing TBH
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Rubbish. He is playing lazy. Wallace era
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Sheds is 33 today :birthday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCglMOgVgAIbx92?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCglMPXVgAs73QA?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1452451784631341058
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Triple Richmond premiership star Shane Edwards will be inducted as an AFL Life Member at the competition's Annual General Meeting in March for his services to Australian Football.
Shane Edwards
* 281 premiership games and 22 pre-season games played for Richmond, kicking 187 goals.
* 3 x Premiership Player 2017, 2019, 2020
* All Australian, 2018
* State of Origin game, 2020
Richmond President Peggy O’Neal said it was a well-deserved honour for the 33-year-old, who is one of 11 players and officials set to be inducted.
"I remember Shane’s first game when he came to the Club in 2007, and it is a testament to his talent and durability for him now to be awarded AFL life membership for playing 300 AFL games - and he’s still going strong," O’Neal said.
"Shane’s leadership on and off the ground is outstanding, and he is a most deserving recipient of AFL Life Membership. None of us doubt that the Club is so much better because Shane is at Tigerland."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1054701/shane-edwards-to-receive-afl-life-membership
:clapping
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I was harsh on him as a kid but gee whizz he has been a fine servant of the club. Very underrated and a deserving AA.
Deserves to get to 300+ and be remembered as a key cog in our dynasty.
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same Andy.
I was up there in the bagging stakes of him.
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It goes to show how important coaching and development is. It took until 2017 for the club to realise how good his hands were and the team had to move faster and be more aware of his crafty handballs.
Love me some Sheds. I’m glad he silenced his critics since he had that 2016 dip post broken fibula/wrist
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I’ve got a few wrong , always thought Griff would step up but was a fan of Tich since the draft highlights - the goal in the highlights gets a special mention
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Champion of the club and an ornament to the game.
Those hands :cheers
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Pretty harsh on him myself but i think the criticism at the time was justified. Became a very good player and kudos to him.
Played just 10 games in 2020 and i thought time was up still felt the same last year. at age 33 and injuries kicking in regularly probably his last season.
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AFL life membership.
Congratulations, @S_Edwards10! (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f31f.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNdF3__VcAMuWU7?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1501745857938407427
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Absolute champion :clapping
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Future Richmond coach. :clapping
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Really nice bloke too
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Future Richmond coach. :clapping
Thread's about Shane Edwards not Luke Hodge... :shh
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AFL life membership.
Congratulations, @S_Edwards10! (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f31f.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNdF3__VcAMuWU7?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1501745857938407427
Shame the guy giving it to him is a complete stuffwit.
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Have a real gut feel that he has gone one yr too many Pretty ordinary against Carlton and if there were not so many other poor performances would be in the gun to be dropped.
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It's sad seeing how much a shadow of his champion self Sheds has become :(. So far this year he's had 14, 17 and today just 13 disposals. Like a few of our vets, there's been a clear correlation between Sheds' output dropping away since the second half of last year (from R15 onwards) and us dropping away as a side.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/S/Shane_Edwards.html#20220
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Cooked, same with Cotchin :(
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Well that cliff came quickly.
I actually feel more sad about this than I do cotchin.
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Where is his playing. Surely is better suited to a Houli type role than on wing it forward.
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Out of all the older players from the glory years, I really didn’t see the drop in form coming from edwards. 1 of the players who actually got better as he got older so I expected him to be able to play at a high level for another couple of seasons yet.
Not sure what’s the issue with him atm, if he’s injured then let him recover, if he’s not suited to his current role (I’m not actually sure what this is) then move him elsewhere - he’s shown in the past he can play well across all 3 lines. Or maybe it’s just that the cliff has come for him sooner than maybe any of us saw coming.
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Where is his playing. Surely is better suited to a Houli type role than on wing it forward.
Last time Edwards played consistently good football was in Houli's role in 2020 while the latter was out injured... :shh
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Our lack of run and overlap I think contributes a lot to it. His greatest weapon being his fast hands and the work rate is so average he has zero options. He has lost pace and his decision making is also that little bite slower but I remember in 2016/2017 off season the rise of Edward’s came with Caracalla Hardwick and co recognising they need to be on when edwards has ball in hand
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Can't seem to find a teammate with a handball over short distance at the moment. Seems to have lost all confidence with his disposal. Without his ability to setup his teammates he doesn't have a lot left in his repotoire at this point in his career unfortunately. Having said this it is still early days season wise but the signs aren't great.
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Lovely passage of play from Shedda just now.
Shame Lynch couldn't capitalise.
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Better today....still struggling though.... :shh
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Better today....still struggling though.... :shh
Parker, Costagna, Ross. Three that are far worse than even a "Struggling" Edwards. On the downslope but far from our biggest problem.
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Ross was one of the few who actually put his body on the line...on at least one occasion leading to a goal for us....that alone puts him in the top 10 in my book......the far more hyped and highly rated Ralphsmith on the other hand.... :shh
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Thought Ross was very good tonight.
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One good passage of play and the rest was putrid. If other players can’t perform better than Ross then they shouldn’t be in the team. I’m referring to hugo aarts and any other dud we have.
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Thought Ross was very good tonight.
Not from where I was sitting at the Adelaide Oval
A couple really poor non efforts
It was Shedda's best game this year; easily
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Thought Ross was very good tonight.
Not from where I was sitting at the Adelaide Oval
A couple really poor non efforts
It was Shedda's best game this year; easily
Ross is soft he had one tough contest at half back that resulted in us getting a goal but all in all he’s pretty much the the softest player in the team
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Shed had a good game tonight, lifted and linked well.
Ross just can't kick, bemused as to the role they persist with.
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Thought Ross was very good tonight.
Not from where I was sitting at the Adelaide Oval
A couple really poor non efforts
It was Shedda's best game this year; easily
Ross is soft he had one tough contest at half back that resulted in us getting a goal but all in all he’s pretty much the the softest player in the team
he lacks hardness at times but that's a terrible call. Ralphsmith has him covered by a mile in the poor effort area.
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Thought Edwards was a bit meh. Had a good third quarter but if people think hes not a part of the problem moving fwd then they have their blinkers on.
People know where i stand id prefer we bite the bullet and put games into younger blokes.
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No matter what your opinion is it won’t change the clubs thinking. They will introduce players into the side based on injury, form and needs and won’t throw the towel in at this stage of the season.
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion but I would like a culture where the aim is to win games.
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No matter what your opinion is it won’t change the clubs thinking. They will introduce players into the side based on injury, form and needs and won’t throw the towel in at this stage of the season.
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion but I would like a culture where the aim is to win games.
In what deluded world do you think say playing Sonsie this week instead of say Castagna or Edwards is throwing the towel in.
No one ever goes into games not wanting to win.
Do you really think im here to change the clubs opinion lol. im here to give a simple opinion an opinion what i believe is the right opinion for us for where we are currently at.
There is always the aim to win every single game you go into but there has to be a realisation that we wont be winning any flags over the next few seasons at least and plan accordingly.
You want form well there is two sides to form there is also those out of form.
Sonsie has been good for how many weeks he may have been a little bit quiter this week but he has done enough. How much more do you want out of Mansell he is exactly what we are lacking. Stacks game not good enough for you and he has been building nicely.
Gibcus was a bit sore but has been good and has rested no need to make him spend the rest of the season in the mnagoos.treat him like the others and bring him straight back or does that only apply to the favorites. Some culture that.
You don't think its time to play RC-D he has performed all sorts of roles and worked on all sorts of areas to their pleasure its bloody time to play him.
You keep harping on as though the kids in the two's have been absolutely hopeless when the truth is those being spoken about have done well.Seems no matter the kid, favorites will always take precedence for you. Kids are performing roles better than the incumbents in the seniors.
Play the freakin kids but play em in well structured teams with plenty of PREMIERSHIP PLAYERS around them.That is whats needed and the longer we keep on fantasising about premierships the harder it will get.
A simple question for everyone. ARE WE GOING TO WIN THE FLAG THIS YEAR. If you answer no then there is only one path to take given the age of our list.
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Lol , to think you will develop kids all at one time though the seniors without the protection of bigger bodies is deluded. The club is currently resting some kids as they want to manage their development
To criticise your club and players without knowing the role they played when they win is even more deluded.
Do other clubs have supporters who only see the negatives no matter what.
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Lol , to think you will develop kids all at one time though the seniors without the protection of bigger bodies is deluded. The club is currently resting some kids as they want to manage their development
To criticise your club and players without knowing the role they played when they win is even more deluded.
Do other clubs have supporters who only see the negatives no matter what.
LOL talk about being deluded. On the one hand you say let them earn their spot and agree senior players aren't going so well. Then on the other hand when they actually play well while the seniors continue to stink it up you can't bring yourself to see a favorite get dropped.
WHAT KIDS am i asking to be played AND WHAT SENIORS ARE NOT THERE TO HELP.
Sheesh this week ive asked for Gibcus one of only two first yr players im asking to be played, bought back in on the back of solid games after being rested for soreness.The amazing thing with this call is we go with our desired structure!!!.
Sonsie is the only other first yr player im asking to be picked. I want him icked on the back of a block of solid weeks in the two,s and i want him picked to help address what i would call a chronic skill shortage. Have you not been watching hacks like Castagna and Parker for starters.Sheesh mate get your head out of your arse and see the light.
Kids eh well heres one
Mansell nearly 22yrs in his third season has 13 games under his belt and playing really well in the magoos. What more do you want this kid to do. on top of that we dont have such a good defensive small playing seniors. Our small defenders leave a fair bit to be desired when it comes to defending a player. third year 13 game player who is earning his spot.
Rcd a 22yr old fourth year player with 9 games and doing all that is asked of him in the two's.
Miller in yr 5 22 yr old and his games this year have been servicable.
Syd Stack another 22yr old with 33 games in his 4th season with great form.
Ralphsmith a third year player turns 21 this year and has 10 games . maybe he is one who can be replaced but they are getting games into him and i hope they continue to do so.
Dow sheesh he looks pretty handy and you want him to rot in the two's. fmd a 21 yr old in yr three how long do want to wait before we play these blokes.
Its delusional to think that we are throwing them in with out a lot of experience around them totally delusional.
This week alone the following say hello, Riewoldt 33 who should be dropped on that performance, Edwards 33 who also gave sweet stuff all, Cotchin 32 , Prestia 29, Broad 29, 33 yr old Tarrant, Aarts 27, Castagna 25, Baker 24, Graham 25, Nankervis 27, Parker 26, Pickett 30, Rioli 25, Vlastuin 28,
Thats a shedload of experience to go with just two first year players. and 4 or 5 21 22yr olds in yr three plus.
Just admit it your just looking for reasons not to play the younger blokes when blind fred can see it is past time we did so.
No one is asking for a shed load of first year players to get a go that your idiotic perception. we are asking that kids who have been in the system for 3 or 4 years now get games after showing a bit.
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Lol , you don’t know a lot about how to rebuild a side! You think you should drop half the side and expect to be competitive , If you have been involved with successful transitions as history will tell you it has always involved introducing players on the drip throughout the season. See Sydney as an example
You certainly have trouble with people disagreeing with you as your constant disputes with so many prove, we can agree to disagree without the carry on you know!
We also don’t get the constant sheeting on our own , it something the position supporters do.
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Totally invisible tonight apart from the stuff ups. Cmon tiges its time to get games into others.
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One of the rare times I agree with Claw.
Time for a Edwards to be dropped.
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Love Shedda. Absolute champion of the club and hope they can manage him through another 10 games or whatever he needs to get to 300 but he shouldn’t be in the team next week. They can call it managed, rested, whatever but time to give him a spell.
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One of the rare times I agree with Claw.
Time for a Edwards to be dropped.
Rested
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Love Shedda. Absolute champion of the club and hope they can manage him through another 10 games or whatever he needs to get to 300 but he shouldn’t be in the team next week. They can call it managed, rested, whatever but time to give him a spell.
13 to go.
Not sure he should get there myself
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I love Shed. Picked him out as a gun when we drafted him and copped it for years at the pub pre game every week.
The big question is how can we handle it better than how the Hawks have with their ageing stars. I'd like him sent off properly, but also don't want him getting 4 touches a week till end of the year.
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I love Shed. Picked him out as a gun when we drafted him and copped it for years at the pub pre game every week.
The big question is how can we handle it better than how the Hawks have with their ageing stars. I'd like him sent off properly, but also don't want him getting 4 touches a week till end of the year.
the real answer to that is he will do a Grigga and give the opportunity to a younger bloke. If he is kidding himself then all it does is make it hard on those who have to make the decisions. Personally i thought him superfluous to needs in 2020.
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Don't think he has been as terrible this year as some say but tonight was his worst game in 6 years. A. champion of our club but games like this are not açcceptable. I won't write him off on the basis of one game but he maybe showing the passage of time.
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I love Shed. Picked him out as a gun when we drafted him and copped it for years at the pub pre game every week.
The big question is how can we handle it better than how the Hawks have with their ageing stars. I'd like him sent off properly, but also don't want him getting 4 touches a week till end of the year.
the real answer to that is he will do a Grigga and give the opportunity to a younger bloke. If he is kidding himself then all it does is make it hard on those who have to make the decisions. Personally i thought him superfluous to needs in 2020.
Was a bit different in Griggs case as he couldn’t overcome injury. In sheddas case it’s form related.
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Dimma was asked about Sheds after the game:
"He's fit. It's just unfortunately our method of offence today didn't bring the ball to him. He plays a pretty specific role in how we want to go about it. We certainly know he can play better. Ideally we'd like to get the ball in his hands. Every time he touches it usually something good happens. He's probably a bit reflective of us at the moment. The inconsistency of performances probably relates to the team hurting Shane. So he's a good player. Hopefully, he bounces back next week versus the Eagles."
Source: RFC video (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1111057/round-6-hardwick-post-match)
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It was his non effort to chase that peed me off. If Jack Graham is able to burst past you then you’re not putting in the required effort.
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Footy Classified put up Sheds' stats comparing this year to last year.
SHANE ON THE WANE
2021 2022
AFL Ratings Pts 12.4 9.0*
Disposals 18.4 13.7
Clearances 3.0 2.2
Score Involvements 4.7 4.0
Tackles 2.3 1.7*
* Career low
Matty Lloyd: 'I saw Edwards in the same light as Shaun Burgoyne. He would be the one they would turn to to get them out of trouble. Shane's decline has come sooner than anyone and this will be his last year. He reflects the team's decline.'
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Hard to argue that he has had a shocker of a year so far but one thing is certain - Dimma will not drop him.
He generally backs in his men in these situations.
Rightly or wrongly.
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Mostly wrongly
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I don't particularly want to see him playing VFL. He is due to miss some games with an "injury" or a rest though.
Still looks 20 but is finally playing like a 34yo. Hope to send him off with a good win late in the season in a farewell game
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Dimma said Sheds had a hip flexor issue which is why he did little at Monday training but he's okay and will play.
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I dont think falling short of 300 will dampen his legacy at the club. Hes been a great player for a long time but its time for him to do a Grigg and Caddy and retire so that a Banks or a Sonsie can get some games.
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The end has come quick
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I dunno, I reckon if you get a guy to 294 you find a way to get him to 300. Still irks me that Campbell was left on 297 somehow. (I don't remember the details.)
I had a look at Shedda's game stats for season 2019 and it's chalk and cheese with 2022. He was getting high 20s for disposals, laying big tackle numbers, hitting the scoreboard, getting clearances. I don't know if he has a Zimmer frame-friendly new role, but if it's less output from the same role then yes, he is cooked.
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Campbell said he wanted to retire at 294. He didn’t want to surpass Francis Bourke’s tally out of respect
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Buggered.
Can't hit his targets with the hands, has long that evasiveness that made him so damaging.
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Much better than earlier in the season but still has dropped off pretty far from last season. Seems to not be able to hit a target anymore.
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FMD even Mr Magic would have to admit he has had his day and is being carried now
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Balmey on SEN said Edwards looked "a little bit tired" last Thursday night.
Go to 3:40 min mark: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=1010163
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I thought he was much better yesterday
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I thought he was much better yesterday
Really does need a rest. Honest opinion is he is taking games away from a younger player atm.
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stuff Shed, had enough of the idiot
he needs to retire and retire now
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stuff Shed, had enough of the idiot
he needs to retire and retire now
poo post Dan
You’re better than that
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stuff Shed, had enough of the idiot
he needs to retire and retire now
poo post Dan
You’re better than that
Why. He served us well but I have had enough. Cotch has earnt another year, as has Jack due to not having many other choices. This guy has not.
That’s a fact. We might as play with 2 less players in him and George.
He needs to retire and should not play on.
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Bit rough of Shed, he is definitely done but he's still in our best 22. Would prefer to have the ball in Sheds hands kicking for goal than Castagna or Aarts.
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stuff Shed, had enough of the idiot
he needs to retire and retire now
poo post Dan
You’re better than that
Why. He served us well but I have had enough. Cotch has earnt another year, as has Jack due to not having many other choices. This guy has not.
That’s a fact. We might as play with 2 less players in him and George.
He needs to retire and should not play on.
Calling him “the idiot” for starters
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Has been horrible all year and should not be getting games but hey you cant blame edwards if they cannot make hard calls and keep on playing him every week.
Its laughable the way some players just keep on getting games week after week and its just mindboggling that so many have such obvious weaknesses and nothing is ever done about them.
Imo Aarts and Castagna's skills just paper over other players poor skills as they become the targets for them.
Its almost as if in come Castagna and Aarts and we hit critical mass in the poor skills stakes and it becomes a farce.
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Its almost as if in come Castagna and Aarts and we hit critical mass in the poor skills stakes and it becomes a farce.
Agree with this and well described.
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I've been his no 1 fan for a long time but despite all his incredible achievements, Shedda's genuinely limping towards the 300 game milestone.
Started like a house on fire versus the Suns yesterday but unfortunately like many games this season couldn't sustain the level required for long enough.
Despite many thinking he could play forever ala Burgoyne, he has never really recovered from the troublesome ankle injury last year & has aged quickly.
I hope the Champ gets to 300 & wins another flag but it's looking increasingly unlikely & I'll be surprised if he's on our list next season.
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His the perfect sub cannot run out games what's the obsession get him to 300 has go play on merit.
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His the perfect sub cannot run out games what's the obsession get him to 300 has go play on merit.
He’d get to 300 even as the sub. But give me edwards as a small forward even in the twilight of his career over the likes of Castagna and aarts any day of the week.
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His the perfect sub cannot run out games what's the obsession get him to 300 has go play on merit.
He’d get to 300 even as the sub. But give me edwards as a small forward even in the twilight of his career over the likes of Castagna and aarts any day of the week.
We got Clarke, Cumberland and Stack options there.
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His the perfect sub cannot run out games what's the obsession get him to 300 has go play on merit.
He’d get to 300 even as the sub. But give me edwards as a small forward even in the twilight of his career over the likes of Castagna and aarts any day of the week.
We got Clarke, Cumberland and Stack options there.
Stack is injured atm but agree he should get a chance. Not sure if he’s back this season.
I’d still probably take sheds ahead of the other 2 while we are still “contending”. Even in the avg form he’s in his output is the same as the other 2 and who knows maybe he’ll give us a vintage performance or 2 in the finals if we make it.
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This guy is so done it's embarrassing. Slowww, poor disposal, can't get to a contest let alone compete in one.
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We could be giving games to Banks instead. Shane should retire now. Hes not earning games on merit imho.
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I mean at this point he has to get one more. They're all danger games now though, so not sure which.
Hell, it doesn't matter--he'll be playing next week.
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Should be doing a Murphy and playing as the sub. Can't run out games.
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Maybe he just needs to do another pre-finals workout with Gazza?
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One more for Sheds even as the sub to get to 300 then retire. He will be a legend of the club forever more but sadly now a shadow of his former self. We aren't in a position to carry him in our 22.
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So sad watching him at the moment
Probably the case of a player going on 1 season too long
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One more for Sheds even as the sub to get to 300 then retire. He will be a legend of the club forever more but sadly now a shadow of his former self. We aren't in a position to carry him in our 22.
As poor as he is this season, he deserves to be playing in his 300th. Imagine making him sub and potentially not playing a minute in his 300th game.
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He should play next week. Can't be the sub because despite being horribly out of form as a 3 time premiership player who's been a gun for our Club he deserves to start next week
IMHO he has earned that
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He should play next week. Can't be the sub because despite being horribly out of form as a 3 time premiership player who's been a gun for our Club he deserves to start next week
IMHO he has earned that
Agreed.
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Hopefully he pulls the pin after next week so a kid can come in.
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Form says he really should be dropped so drop him.
If Finals become impossible then get him over the line but while finals are a chance we have to give ourselves the best chance we can of making them. Atm that means no Edwards.
Lots of double standards going on here.
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Form says he really should be dropped so drop him.
If Finals become impossible then get him over the line but while finals are a chance we have to give ourselves the best chance we can of making them. Atm that means no Edwards.
Lots of double standards going on here.
I actually agree 100%.
Players like RCD and others look at this and go this club doesn't pick best 22, or most in form. That standard is important. Edwards is a liability, give him a few weeks off. If we lose on of Lions and Port we are prob done and give a game. If not he will come in with an injury somehwre I'm sure. Plus means his 300th can be at the G not an away game in SA. Which I know is his home state but rubbish decision by the club not to calculate it and manage him so its at the G in front of all of us.
Jacks 300 was in Qld and now Edwards in SA. Poor for mine.
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TigerLand, his 300th is next week, a MCG home game
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At this point we need some sort of celebratory context to the game to get the boys up. Hearts on the floor at present. Maybe he will have a renaissance performance.
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TigerLand, his 300th is next week, a MCG home game
I have my diary mixed up thought we had Port next week! I take everything back lol!
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I spoke to him [Edwards] two weeks ago about it [300th game]. He said that he had hardly thought about it and wasn’t even sure which week it was. He deserves every accolade he gets. From the very quiet and shy boy from SA to the inspirational Indigeneous leaders he is now. What a star on and off field.
https://twitter.com/smwright1965/status/1550779499239063553
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I have absolutely loved Edwards. I remember his first year arguing with my family that he would be a star. I never get these predictions right lol, but will continue to tell the fam how right I was. It's a shame how this year has planned out for him. Bloody hell we better get up for him.
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300 games, 3 Premierships, All Australian, much loved team mate. :clapping :clapping :clapping
Not bad for a hack. :lol :wallywink
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I must admit I was definitely not convinced at first. I can't remember what his pejorative nickname was at the time--something like Shankwards or something. But sometime, I can't remember when, he started with his incredible handballs that just split the play wide open. Unbelievable vision. Then he turned into an absolute gun. Somewhere along the way he even became a center bounce specialist just because he was so clever, quick, and had such vision in tight.
Seldom been so happy to be so wrong about someone so good. :)
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I think it was Caracalla who said they went through some 2016 vision and Edwards was firing off these handballs that didn’t hit a player. When they were going through the footage Edward’s said sorry I won’t do it again and Caracalla said the handball was going to the right spot and if received it would blow the game open. We need to train and get better at reading Edward’s patterns and react faster to his handballs.
and the rest is history! He has done things in close which we’re out of this world. Sad to see him limp over the line but a much deserved 3x premiership player and immortal of rfc
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Hes been a champion too but this time next week I expect him to do what Kane Lambert did today and retire and go into our recruiting team.
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I think it was Caracalla who said they went through some 2016 vision and Edwards was firing off these handballs that didn’t hit a player. When they were going through the footage Edward’s said sorry I won’t do it again and Caracalla said the handball was going to the right spot and if received it would blow the game open. We need to train and get better at reading Edward’s patterns and react faster to his handballs.
and the rest is history! He has done things in close which we’re out of this world. Sad to see him limp over the line but a much deserved 3x premiership player and immortal of rfc
This made such a huge difference and also something that has lacked with the loss of Caracalla but also the dip in Edwards form. We don't link up anywhere near as well.
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Hes been a champion too but this time next week I expect him to do what Kane Lambert did today and retire and go into our recruiting team.
Yep with the likes of Cumberland, MRJ, Ralphsmith, Sonsie, Clarke all needing game time in the seniors for their development Shedda needs to pull the pin or play in the Ressie's for the rest of the year.
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I'm convinced Edwards can do an impact job as the sub. Ideally plays a quarter or a half. At worst he plays 3+ qtrs like he is already doing.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYeJBROaAAAR8Vh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
https://twitter.com/4Boat/status/1551359488414064640
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KB telling Shedda he needs to kick seven against Brisbane to beat Jack’s six in his 300th (also against the Lions)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYjyxQDUsAANoft?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/_sjblack/status/1551757006909804544
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From Titch to a giant of the game: Edwards hits 300
By Sarah Black
afl.com.au
26 July 2022
SHANE Edwards will become just the fifth Richmond player and eighth Indigenous man to play 300 V/AFL games in Sunday's big clash with Brisbane.
The three-time premiership player joins Kevin Bartlett (403 games), Jack Riewoldt (321), Jack Dyer (311) and Francis Bourke (an even 300) on the milestone
The softly spoken Edwards said it had been a long, "surreal" journey to the mark.
"It doesn't sound right or sit well with me at the moment. They're legends of the game and people I've looked up to for so long," Edwards said.
"It's probably one of those things where I'll look back and see my name on the list and smile, I'm honestly lost for words."
Edwards has vivid memories of his first game, which came in round four, 2007 against the Western Bulldogs, playing under Terry Wallace.
"I started on the bench and came onto the wing, playing on Brad Johnson. He took me straight to the goal-square, obviously smelling some weakness. I played out the rest of the game and I thought it was the biggest day of my life up to that point," he said.
"I always look back on the tough times to make me appreciate the last five years and how hard it is to get there. It's really been an incredible climb from where we came from when I got here. The club's in a different position, everything looks different, it's pretty mind-blowing how things can change over time.
"From some of those dark times, we got some of our best players like 'Cotch' and 'Dusty' (Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin), you can't look back too badly on those times."
Despite having 299 games under his belt, the dynamic Edwards still hasn't settled on a preferred position, having played across all three lines and even captaining the club at one point in 2019.
"I've had a few chats with Dimma in end-of-season and mid-year reviews, and we're still trying to figure out where I play my best footy. It's something we'll probably never figure out.
"All I knew coming through juniors and playing here, is if I can be a really good teammate, then it probably takes me pretty far. That's what I've been trying to do since day one, trying to be someone my teammates want to play with every week, and add to the unselfish culture we have here."
Club CEO Brendon Gale spoke glowingly on the impact Edwards has had on all aspects of the club.
"Shane's been a wonderful player. He's been in the thick of some of the biggest moments in the biggest games over the last 10 to 12 years," Gale said.
"We often say the true test of a player's worth is his or her ability to make the players around them better. If that's the case, there's none better than Shane Edwards. He's been remarkable in making the players around him better.
"Secondly, I can make a really strong case of perhaps him being our most influential player. His journey and his growth through that journey has really coincided with our growth and journey as a footy club, and particularly as we've opened our minds and hearts to our First Nations people. It's made us a better football club, and a better team."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/807170/from-titch-to-a-giant-of-the-game-edwards-hits-300
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Edwards, Lambert, Cotch--no wonder we did so well with a club full of incredible gentleman leaders. Unassuming, but brilliant. :)
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Sheds and Jack will be on AFL 360 tonight.
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Ch 10 report:
https://twitter.com/TroutWoodend/status/1551839369585389568
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Sheds and Jack will be on AFL 360 tonight.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1182637/edwards-300-edwards-reflects-on-his-journey
Interesting comment by Jack that Edwards and Lambert's roles in the team were very connected and they were our secret weapon.
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I’ve always thought they were the architects of our forward handballing game when we were at our best…
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Congratulations to him. Champion on and off the field. His sublime handpassing in congestion was a major reason for our success.
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On ‘Shedda’: Ex-teammates and coaches recall Shane Edwards’ journey to 300 game milestone
Liahm O'Brien
TheInnerSanctum.com.au
28/07/2022
On and off the field, Shane Edwards has left an indelible legacy at the Richmond football club - Photos: Richmond FC
Unheralded for much of his 15 year career, Shane Edwards is set to make a rare step into the spotlight as he prepares to don the famed yellow and black for the 300th time.
The Tigers’ stalwart will become just the fifth player in the club’s 114 year V/AFL history to reach the milestone, joining teammate Jack Riewoldt and club legends Kevin Bartlett, Francis Bourke and Jack Dyer in the illustrious group.
A player with sharp vision that is backed by selfless conviction, the man known as ‘Shedda’ has come to win the hearts of many.
Whether it be from a dagger-like handball meeting a seemingly non-existent target, or witnessing the sheer will to impose himself on a contest play out, Edwards’ actions on field have earned him a high level of respect throughout the football world.
Beyond the white line, the 33-year-old has endeared himself to teammates, coaches and fans that have benefited from his action inspired and thoughful leadership.
In part, making a connection to Edwards from the stands is owed to the way in which he has grown before our eyes. Here, a significant physical transformation is outweighed only by the manner in which the Arrente man has utilised his Indigenous heritage as a platform for mentorship and support.
Two-time premiership teammate Brandon Ellis offers this accurate assessment.
“Off the field, ‘Shedda’ is an unbelievable human, so humble and caring. On the field, he’s a beast of a competitor and his footy smarts are just levels above anyone else,” he told The Inner Sanctum.
Though this description gives clear insight into the regard with which he is held, it is simply one shade on what is otherwise a football masterpiece.
To paint the full picture, we have asked those that have seen this journey play out, to give their insights into the makeup of Edwards; the player, leader and person.
‘There was something about him’: Talent on full display at Andrew Jarman’s North Adelaide
“He only played 10 games for us in 2006, but gee he was a beautiful player.
“He was just a little baby, there was no meat on his bones, but he was a beautiful runner. That’s what impressed us in our under 17 program at North.
“He could carry the ball and he had good endurance. There was something about him and as a coach you go ‘hello, I might give this guy an opportunity.’
“He didn’t look out of place at all, even as a young boy. He adapted quickly in the SANFL back then and I played him on the wing.
“The thing I loved about him, was under pressure he made the right decisions and I just thought ‘wow, this kid’s beyond his years as a young man.’
“He’s established himself as one of the great Richmond players and watching from afar, I couldn’t be any prouder of the young lad. I’m so proud of him to get that 300. I’m proud to be the senior coach that gave him his first opportunity, because there’s something we saw straight away.
“It’s been a wonderful career and he’s a beautiful young man, so he deserves everything that comes his way.”
‘You would have loved to play alongside him’: Selfless play a highlight for first AFL coach Terry Wallace
“When I arrived at the footy club, the club had traded away their first round draft picks, high end picks so first and second round, for about six years.
“The thing that we spoke about was ‘let’s develop our own’, so the supporter base can see these kids, high end talent, play their first game, game 50, game 100 and hopefully they go on to become stars of the footy club.
“First couple of years, as you well know, were a dismal failure. We just didn’t have the recruiters in place. The club was broke, we basically didn’t have a full time recruiter. Other clubs had like two in Perth on the payroll. We didn’t even have one based in Melbourne.
“We got Francis Jackson to come on full time, and his first draft in control of selection was Jack Riewoldt and Shane Edwards, the two 300 game boys – not a bad start.
“I always had faith that he [Edwards] was going to be good player, but his biggest issue in those first 18 months, he was that little. He would’ve fair dinkum been 63 kilos ringing wet.
“I think that was a bit frustrating for him in those initial stages, but that’s the nature of the game. It always takes you two or three years to really find your footing and really get yourself established.
“We played him, but he got pushed off the ball a little bit. You knew that would come once his body developed, and we had to get games into him.
“Shane had undeniable talent, undeniable hand-eye co-ordination. Elite in the fact that he was an endurance beast and he had elite speed as well. Most players have got one or the other. He had both, which is a really good starting point.
“The thing that I used to love the most was actually when I left [coaching] and I went back into commentary. The commentators would call a piece of play and he wouldn’t even get mentioned.
“I would sit there as the special comments and say, ‘did anyone see Edwards? Can we just have a look at the replay and Shane Edwards’ ability to get in, flick the ball sideways where nobody was expecting it to go.’
“He has uncanny ability to read the play and set up other players. You would have loved to play alongside him.
“He makes everyone a better player, because he does things with his sight in heavy traffic that other blokes just can’t do.”
‘A leader’s not always the one out the front’: On and off field lessons still carry weight for Jake Batchelor
“Shane was probably the first person recognised as a leader that I’d ever experienced that didn’t come across as the natural leader.
“That was the first time, probably only on reflection, that I’ve figured out that a leader’s not always the one out the front. You’ve got to have your own way of doing it and he did that.
“He was the first one that ever made me second guess what leadership is, and it’s about authenticity. He’s not a ‘rant and raver’, he’s not a get up and speak in front of people [type of person], but he had the relationships down pat.
“He knew what his sort of leadership was.
“He’s got interpersonal skills that transfer from off field into the on field side of things. You’ll see after every goal, he’s talking to Maurice Rioli, he’s talking to Shai Bolton, all of the young blokes. He’s teaching and coaching.
“That’s leadership. It’s getting energy out of your own game and helping someone else.
“He brings his teammates into the game well, sometimes too well when blokes aren’t ready for him. After a bit of time, players get used to how quick he can feed the ball off and bring them into the game.
“He’s got the best hands I’ve ever seen of anyone in football, still to this day. The most creative handballer I’ve seen.
“That’s his clear weapon of choice and still to this day, I reckon he’s underrated, especially externally.
“Everyone loves him.”
‘Someone who grew into a leadership role’: Brett Deledio praises personal development
“Shane was a very well respected individual within. I saw him as a pup come through to turn into someone who grew into a leadership role.
“From just a skinny little kid, who was just trying to find his way and get a game with a huge work rate and appetite to try and play well, to caring about not just himself, but others and bringing them into the game.
“He was just sort of coming into that as I left. I reckon he probably took it to another level after I left. I think he felt comfortable in the amount of games that he’d played and in terms of where he stood within the Richmond Football Club.
“That takes time for all young players when they’re coming through.
“I also watched him learn about his culture, his history and his past from his whole family and his Indigenous heritage.
“I’ve got no doubt that all of the young Indigenous boys, and the reason they’ve been so successful, is because of his mentorship. No different to Shaun Burgoyne down at Hawthorn when he was there with the young boys, Adam Goodes up at the Swans.
“There’s been numerous amounts of players that have taken guys under their wing, but Shane has certainly done that.
“He doesn’t just do it with the Indigenous boys, he’s been a great mentor for a lot of young fellas just coming to the club.
“He’s certainly one that shows a huge amount of care for others and makes sure he’s thinking of others before himself a lot of the time.
“A very selfless footballer and teammate. Someone that you really loved playing with.”
‘That 20 minutes of football was just the catalyst’: Lifelong Richmond man Joel Bowden examines Edwards’ place in Tiger folklore
“In 2017 in the grand final, Shaun Grigg went into the ruck and as a Richmond fan and supporter, I watched with my heart in my mouth thinking ‘what the hell is going to happen here?’
“Shane Edwards proceeded to get four of the next five clearances and Richmond propelled themselves to a first premiership in 37 years.
“Dustin Martin was clearly best on ground and voted accordingly, but that period of time, when Nankervis was on the bench and Shaun Grigg went into the ruck, propelled Shane Edwards in my view, and potentially many others, into excellence. And he did it on the biggest stage at the biggest point in time.
“That 20 minutes of football was just the catalyst to what I think is that period of over achieving and winning three premierships in four years.
“He’s been unassuming and that’s the bit of his nature that I recall. He’s been a little bit understated. But in a champion team, he’s been a champion. He hasn’t been a champion in a team that’s not done well, he’s been a champion in a champion team.
“He’s part of the great era of the Richmond Football Club in the modern age. They did something miraculous and he’s part of it.
“He’s built a career and he’s going to play 300 games which is phenomenal. He’s played quality football now for 15 years.”
https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/on-shedda-ex-teammates-and-coaches-recall-shane-edwards-journey-to-300-game-milestone/
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That is a brilliant article.
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:bow
Yes it is. One of the best ive read in recent times.
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Nice of Terry to give a disclaimer at the start about his own performance
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:lol
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I alway thought this bloke would be special ( I’m sounding like TWallet) from the beginning and to me he was the most underrated player in the league. Some like 30 possessions but I would take 15 of Tiches all day long
I think I will miss that smile the most - when he goes😉
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:
IF ...
Shane Edwards arrived at Punt Rd as a tiny 65kg teenager ...
THEN ...
whenever he exits it will be as a Richmond giant. Bartlett, Dyer, Bourke, Riewoldt, and as of Sunday, Edwards. Tigers to reach 300 matches. And ask anyone who has had anything to do with him – one of the great people.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/807609/if-matt-crouch-isn-t-anywhere-near-his-2017-best-then
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AFL congratulates Shane Edwards on 300 games
afl.com.au
29 July 2022
The AFL wishes to congratulate Richmond's Shane Edwards before his 300th AFL game this round.
Edwards will become the first Indigenous player at Richmond to reach 300 games and the eighth Indigenous player in VFL/AFL history, joining Shaun Burgoyne, Adam Goodes, Eddie Betts, Andrew McLeod, Lance Franklin, Michael O’Loughlin, and Gavin Wanganeen.
The AFL's Historian has compiled a list of Shane Edward's career achievements:
Most VFL/AFL Premierships by Indigenous players
4 – Shaun Burgoyne, Cyril Rioli
3 – SHANE EDWARDS, Bradley Hill, Chris Johnson, Daniel Rioli, Darryl White
Miscellaneous
* Edwards is the 98th player to reach 300 VFL/AFL games
* He debuted in 2007, Round Four against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG.
* His 100th game was against the Adelaide Crows in 2012.
* His 200th game was against the Gold Coast SUNS in 2017.
* Runner up in the 2019 Richmond B&F.
* 2018 All Australian.
* The fifth player from the 2006 NAB AFL Draft to reach 300 games. He joins Travis Boak (pick five), Joel Selwood (seven), Jack Riewoldt (13), and Tom Hawkins (41).
* Played in a draw in his fifth match, but did not play in a win until game #13.
* Edwards had the second longest wait from debut for a win by a Richmond player. Kelvin Moore’s first win was in his 16th game.
* Captained the club for six games in 2019, leading Richmond to five wins.
* He and Maurice Rioli Snr (12 games in 1985) are the only Indigenous players to have captained Richmond in VFL/AFL games.
* Has missed 56 games since his debut.
* It has taken Edwards 15 years and 102 days to get to 300 games. 76th longest to get to the milestone. Slowest of the eight Indigenous players to get to the milestone.
* In 2019, Edwards became the 250th person to play 250 VFL/AFL games.
Most games played alongside Shane Edwards
Games Teammate W-L-D
275 Jack Riewoldt 142-127-6
243 Trent Cotchin 132-107-4
229 Dustin Martin 130-96-3
The 275 games played between Edwards and Riewoldt is the second most for Richmond.
Kevin Bartlett and Francis Bourke played 293 games together.
Win-loss records in 50-game spans
Best: 40-10 (2017-19)
Worst: 13-34 & 3 draws (2007-10) – his first 50 games
https://www.afl.com.au/news/808092/afl-congratulates-shane-edwards-on-300-games
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PREMIERSHIP CAPTAIN COTCHIN PAYS SPECIAL TRIBUTE TO ‘SHEDDA’
Contributor
29.07.2022
Richmond captain Trent Cotchin reflects on the special bond he shares with Tiger teammate and 300-gamer Shane Edwards.
Words from Trent Cotchin
I lived with Shane and one of our other teammates, Kane Johnson, in my first couple of years at the club and ‘Shedda’ (Edwards) and I instantly developed a very special relationship.
When I look back on our careers, one of my favourite moments with Shane was sitting at the front of the bus on the way back from Brisbane to the Gold Coast after we had won the 2020 premiership against Geelong at the Gabba.
Reflecting on our journeys, we literally chewed the fat all the way home on the bus from the Gabba to our base at KDV Sport on the Gold Coast and just reminisced on some of the stories that were really special and unique.
There were our trips to Echuca together, thinking about the players that had gone before us – the Tucky’s (Shane Tuck) of the world – and the people who had a real impact on our journey who weren’t still at the club, but contributed to making the Richmond Football Club so great.
The environment they created allowed us to nurture our own skills and behaviours and reflecting on those memories with Shane on the hour bus ride is something I remember so vividly.
While we were living together he accused me of stealing a bottle of aftershave called ‘Jean De Paul’ or whatever the name on the bottle read.
I, however, know that I didn’t steal it, because I had exactly the same bottle as him. It’s now an ongoing joke between us and I recently purchased him a voucher when we had to buy a gift for our ‘ultimate teammate’.
It’s something we still often laugh about and to this day he hasn’t let me forget about it.
Shane is clearly an insanely talented player and because he sees the game so well he’s forever coaching on field, positioning players who are young and might not necessarily have the same experience that he has.
It’s the connection he builds with players across our list that helps us foster the amazing culture we have established at the Tigers.
When he does touch the ball he always makes something pretty special happen, with those unique handballs he sometimes slides off to the side of his hand or over the top of a pack.
I think he sees the game a couple of steps ahead of than most. Even defensively, we reference the way he stalks an opposition player and to be referenced in nearly every defensive meeting is obviously something that we value.
He’s always been hugely valued and loved within our four walls and maybe still to this day hasn’t been recognised fully to what he brings to our team by those externally.
“TO PLAY 300 GAMES IS A WONDERFUL ACHIEVEMENT AND TO BE SO CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF THOSE 300 GAMES IS A CREDIT TO HIM.” – TRENT COTCHIN ON SHANE EDWARDS
Although, it’s great that over the last few years he has been getting those accolades.
The thing I love about Shane’s journey from an Indigenous heritage perspective is that I’m not sure how well connected he was with his family history in the early part of his career.
But the investment that he’s made to understand and acknowledge his family’s past and the impact he can have on future generations has been really inspiring and I think it’s really helped some of our young indigenous players that have come into the club, because they have a really strong Indigenous spokesperson who can voice opinions and what they value and some of the lessons that they’ve learnt along the way
It’s been incredibly valuable for our footy club and organisation to hear those perspectives from him.
To play 300 games is a wonderful achievement and to be so consistent across all of those 300 games is a credit to him.
As much as the milestone is about Shane, it’s about Sam (his fiancée), his parents, his brother and all the people who have been on that journey with him.
He’s the one who puts his boots on every weekend, but it takes so much more to get to this point in his career and he’d be a person who would be incredibly grateful for the support that he’s received from his loved ones and I’m sure they’re all extremely proud of what he’s achieved to date.
Hopefully there’s more special memories to come.
https://www.aflplayers.com.au/news-feed/stories/captain-cotchin-pays-special-tribute-to-shedda
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Only 5 Tigers have made it to 300 games. Somehow I was lucky enough to honour 1 of them in @S_Edwards10.
Thanks for helping out @Richmond_FC, Dave Astbury & @ncb_cfc.
#AFL | #Shedda300 | @AFLrecord
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https://twitter.com/Foonge/status/1552897518312488960
https://twitter.com/hashbrowne/status/1552801656567316481
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'He makes everyone better': 300 up for Tiger with the magic hands
Magic hands and hidden pace have seen Shane Edwards rise to be a true champion of the game
By Sarah Black
afl.com.au
31 July 2022
YOU KNOW a Shane Edwards handball when you see it.
Or more accurately, you don't see it.
Just a Tiger teammate streaming away with the ball tucked under his arm, several opponents grasping at thin air, after Edwards has seemingly bent the laws of time and space to set up yet another goal.
The lively Edwards – who will become just the fifth Richmond player to reach 300 games on Sunday – has perfected the art of the handball.
At his best, with furrowed brow and tongue poking out in concentration, he sees space where you swear there is none, reads the play one move ahead of everyone else, and pulls off a front-and-centre crumb at perfect speed.
To watch Edwards live, ignoring general play and tracking his running patterns for a few minutes, is to receive a masterclass in timing, reading the game and positioning.
"He's an amazing player, and he makes everyone around him better, that's what's so good about playing with Shane," teammate Jack Graham said.
"His ability to see the game, how he can create space, how he can get you in a better position with his handballs. He's faster than everyone thinks, and he's a great teammate to play with."
For most of his career, Edwards has been underrated, mostly because it's very difficult to pick up exactly what he does on the field without the benefit of several replays.
So much so, it became vogue for commentators to use the term as a near-permanent prefix to his name when calling a Richmond game, culminating in an All-Australian selection in 2018, and finishing second in the Tigers' best and fairest in the premiership year of 2019.
Edwards is a big-game player too, polling two votes in the 2017 Norm Smith and four in the 2020 edition, with only the incomparable Dustin Martin and ever-steady Bachar Houli polling more in the Tigers' three flags (Jayden Short also had six votes over that time).
But when he joined the Tigers, he was just an almost impossibly skinny kid from Golden Grove in Adelaide, taken with pick No.26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft.
It was Richmond's second selection in that draft, behind fellow 300-gamer Jack Riewoldt. The pair have now shared 275 games together, the second-highest teammate tally at Tigerland behind legendary duo Kevin Bartlett and Francis Bourke.
Back in 2019 ahead of his 250th game, Edwards joked to AFL.com.au the club had to scramble to find a small No.10 guernsey for his draft photo, as the previous holder of the jumper was giant ruckman Greg Stafford.
Fellow small Nathan Brown was in the last stages of his career when Edwards came to Punt Road, the pair sharing the forward line alongside Kayne Pettifer, Andy Krakouer and talls Matthew Richardson and Jay Schulz, among others.
It was a team in transition, still featuring stalwarts Greg Tivendale, Joel Bowden and Darren Gasper, while the likes of Nathan Foley, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Jake King and Riewoldt were starting to establish themselves.
"My first impressions of Shane Edwards was how much in awe of the football club and the environment he was. The first thing I noticed was how respectful he was," Brown said.
"He was only small – I mean he's still only slight for an AFL player all these years on – but just how respectful he was to everyone, how in awe he was of players like 'Richo', he lived with (then-captain) Kane Johnson.
"Now, I guess, the whole thing has turned around where everyone else now is in awe of him, his achievements and his standing in the game."
Edwards' talent was obvious from the beginning, but it didn't all go his way.
"We used to play a lot of handball games under Terry Wallace when Shane first started, and you could tell in those games he just had peripheral vision that other players didn’t, and he could just do these magic little things that others couldn't," Brown said.
"He didn't have the consistency to match that in the first few years, but the second half of his career has been a lot better, he's gotten better and better with age.
"What sets Shane apart is the fact he was willing to listen. He was always a kid with unbelievable natural talent, but you find a lot of times, kids who come in with natural talent don't listen, they probably think they know best, and their talent will get them through.
"He had a natural talent, but he also had a work ethic, and he was willing to take on advice and he was willing to learn from the best. It's a rare combination."
As the seasons passed, the softly spoken Edwards' influence at the club grew.
CEO Brendon Gale spoke earlier this week about how Edwards' development mirrored that of the club, which won just three games in his first season of 2007.
The midfielder didn't get an opportunity to bellow "yellow and black" until his 13th match (although he notched up the first of his equal VFL/AFL-high seven draws in the process).
The nickname progressed from 'Titch' to 'Shedda', and Tiger fans were tickled by an ongoing gag in Richmond's 'Hello, Newman' video segment, which would see Edwards silently and randomly appear in a teammate's house as they took Chris Newman on a tour.
Now 33, Edwards looks back at those early days and wishes he was more outspoken, having grown in confidence so much he captained the club on six occasions in 2019 on the way to another flag.
"I wouldn't change too much about how I approach things. Maybe speaking up a bit more early in my career. I was pretty shy – I still am pretty shy," Edwards said.
"Saying what I thought and having a voice. A lot of the time the young guys know what's going on and they're often right, but we just don't hear them until they're in their mid-20s."
In the early days of Dreamtime at the 'G, Edwards – an Arrernte man – was occasionally the club's sole Indigenous player.
He is now the veteran, with Daniel Rioli and Maurice Rioli jnr, Matt Parker, Rhyan Mansell, Sydney Stack, Shai Bolton and Marlion Pickett also on the list, with the club welcoming the Korin Gamadji Institute into its Punt Road headquarters 10 years ago.
Edwards – who wore the No.67 in 2017's Dreamtime match to mark 50 years since the 1967 referendum which recognised Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in the constitution – will be just the eighth Indigenous player in the league to reach 300, drawing level with Gavin Wanganeen.
"We're really lucky here, we're able to play in the Dreamtime game every year, so that's obviously been a huge highlight," Edwards said.
"It's something that's grown every year and it's at a stage I didn't even think was possible when it first started. The Dreamtime games each year are my favourite games. I'm speaking on behalf of the boys, but I think a lot of the boys at our club love that game."
Graham has followed in Edwards' footsteps 10 years later, attending the same primary and high schools, and also drafted out of North Adelaide.
"Golden Grove High School wasn't the biggest footy school or anything like that, it was more your local school, so knowing there was an AFL footballer who had come from there gave me huge belief that maybe I could make it," Graham said.
"Off the field, he's always up for a beer and always up for a laugh, which is good. What us younger boys do is always try to pick his brain, he tells stories about what Richmond used to be like before we had success.
"I think he's seen the worst, but also the best, over his career. He speaks about how there were some tough times, but they've made him who he is today and he wouldn't have it any other way, to come from the bottom to the top over the past few years.
"I love seeing Shane Edwards in the centre clearances, his ability to sidestep, shark the opponent's hitout, and then see him steaming out of the stoppage. But normally, he's handballing off to people in a better position.
"I don't know where his best position is, you could put him anywhere. Even a few years ago he was down at half-back and I loved seeing him intercept there, it was pretty special."
As to what happens once the playing journey has come to a close, Edwards is keen to move into list management.
"I'd love to get into recruiting one day. The recruiting staff at Richmond, Blair (Hartley) and Matty Clarke, they've opened their arms to me over the last four to five years, really helped me learn a few things outside the game," Edwards said.
"I'm just thinking about the actual 300 game on the weekend, maybe 301. Sticking the four in front of it (to make it to 400), I don't know how those guys have done it, I already feel like I've been playing for a lifetime."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/808118/once-underrated-now-idolised-tiger-reaches-300
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A legend of our club and a key contribution to our success. :clapping :cheers
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Not such a great showing from the group for this bloke.
Goes to show how much we have fallen from what made our success.
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Well let me say I love this bloke...
...but...
He should have stopped at about 290 games and he looks as cooked this week as he did last week.
Embarrassed for him. Club not putting the club first. Edwards shouldn't have made it to 300 IMO.
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Well let me say I love this bloke...
...but...
He should have stopped at about 290 games and he looks as cooked this week as he did last week.
Embarrassed for him. Club not putting the club first. Edwards shouldn't have made it to 300 IMO.
Legend of the club, three flags, but he's finished, and has been all season.
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I don’t have a problem with him getting to 300. Sometimes you carry champs along in their prime.
We should have players knocking him out but if your waiting for RCD to be that player you’ll be waiting for a while until he can find a level of consistency in the vfl.
Some players might have their deficiencies like Edwards back in the day but he didn’t ever struggle in the vfl like many of our youngsters that we have like RCD and Martyn etc etc.
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I don’t have a problem with him getting to 300. Sometimes you carry champs along in their prime.
We should have players knocking him out but if your waiting for RCD to be that player you’ll be waiting for a while until he can find a level of consistency in the vfl.
Some players might have their deficiencies like Edwards back in the day but he didn’t ever struggle in the vfl like many of our youngsters that we have like RCD and Martyn etc etc.
Sonsie should have another 6-10 games in him instead of Edwards.
And I'd rather be playing RCD too regardless of VFL form.
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Shane Edwards on the siren ##300 AFL games
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https://twitter.com/WLudbey/status/1553673084606984193
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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Sheds being "managed" after reaching 300 games.
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Thank egg for that sorry Shedda but geez
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Will retire at the end of the season.
A Richmond immortal :bow
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1200444/edwards-to-retire-at-seasons-end?fbclid=IwAR3AOxoXk3TQnEqAGzF-E8N_HcWJO-tIftbs7RX2-b9IMcyq9WDV7spx18I
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Will retire at the end of the season.
Is that next week or at the end of the finals?
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Well I think we all expected it to happen this season. What a career and what a player he became throughout our hot streak. He really allowed our game to work with his handballs that just tore the opposition apart.
Will be missed ! I hope he can stay at the club in some capacity.
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Right call, but jeez it's sad when these absolute champions retire. Congrats on a magnificent career Shedda. :clapping
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Great stuff Shed.
Been an absolute pleasure.
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Congratulations on a great career mate. Very happy when he got AA.
The correct call and for me personally there is sadness in knowing he went 6-12 months too long. I'd prefer if he retired immediately after his 300th. Think we should be playing someone else ahead of him going into a finals campaign without a second life up our sleeve.
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I actually think Edwards will be the sub.
Our expected finals side when fit will be what the side is currently.
Martin in for Edwards who will be sub and push George out.
Grimes in for Gibcus.
So
Ins Martin, Grimes
Out Castagna, Gibcus and Edwards (sub)
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So many fond memories but he game that consigned the Crows to last after having 5 or 6? weeks out was scintillating in 2020.
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Well I think we all expected it to happen this season. What a career and what a player he became throughout our hot streak. He really allowed our game to work with his handballs that just tore the opposition apart.
Will be missed ! I hope he can stay at the club in some capacity.
Has been working with the recruiting team and is interested in that as a career after footy.
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Magnificent career :cheers
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
Quality post
To say you were brutal for a long time about him would be an understatement
As you have done many times before, you man up when totally wrong
Huge kudos
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My favourite Shed moment, when he crunched Hopper in the 2019 GF
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1200530/edwards-announces-his-retirement
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"It is time for me to step aside and move on just as players did for me when I started," Edwards said.
"I am trying to play to the best of my ability out there, but it is pretty obvious to me that I won't be helping us move forward next year.
"The club has given me everything, it has changed my life forever and I will always be connected to the Richmond Football Club.
"My teammates are what I will miss the most, we have been through so much together and always had fun. I will miss putting the jumper on before a game and when we really flick the switch. I love the 15 minutes after a win as well, it is the best feeling.
"When I look back on my career, what I think of is how lucky I have been; on the injury front – I have never really had a big injury, and I got to come to a big club with really passionate supporters.
"I am lucky the Korin Gamadji Institute emerged upstairs a couple of years into my career as well, and I (am grateful to) have seen so many sides of the game as a player.
"I have won premierships and a few wooden spoons and finished everywhere in between as well."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/823794/much-loved-tiger-to-retire-at-season-s-end-after-stellar-career
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Just the most loveable guy. So humble. Always smiling. And a superstar. So lucky to have such a ripper bloke at our club for so long.
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Made the right decision. Very selfless. Retires as a true champion of this club. Showed enormous potential when he started and then under Hardwick really excelled. Very humble. Great leader. Inspiring on and off the field. Pivotal in our success. Thank you Shane.
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
Quality post
To say you were brutal for a long time about him would be an understatement
As you have done many times before, you man up when totally wrong
Huge kudos
Just randomly went back to one of the earlier pages and it seems like that WAT fella was by farrrrrrr his biggest detractor.
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
Quality post
To say you were brutal for a long time about him would be an understatement
As you have done many times before, you man up when totally wrong
Huge kudos
Just randomly went back to one of the earlier pages and it seems like that WAT fella was by farrrrrrr his biggest detractor.
Bloke was a tool. By all accounts he was me with a lower IQ. :gotigers
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
Quality post
To say you were brutal for a long time about him would be an understatement
As you have done many times before, you man up when totally wrong
Huge kudos
Just randomly went back to one of the earlier pages and it seems like that WAT fella was by farrrrrrr his biggest detractor.
Bloke was a tool. By all accounts he was me with a lower IQ. :gotigers
Yes
Far lower IQ
Absolute pleb
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i for one didn't think he had it in him, and was 100% wrong. The games he played during those premiership years were a thing of beauty.
What a champion.
Quality post
To say you were brutal for a long time about him would be an understatement
As you have done many times before, you man up when totally wrong
Huge kudos
Just randomly went back to one of the earlier pages and it seems like that WAT fella was by farrrrrrr his biggest detractor.
Bloke was a tool. By all accounts he was me with a lower IQ. :gotigers
Yes
Far lower IQ
Absolute pleb
I will interpret that as reconciliation. :)
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Love him…always have :clapping
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the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.
he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill
he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.
will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.
Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
:lol :lol who remembers this bloke?
funny stuff yet true the underline bit only
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Hmm ljust like the finishes he talks about you know wooden spoons premierships and everything inbetween that is also tru of his career.
Very very ordinary for a long while had some seasons where he was A/A or very much in contention and he had plenty of seasons in between.
As a big critic especially early on credit to him for becoming a very good player.
I personally don't rate him as high as a lot of tiger supporters but at least am prepared to applaud the player he did become.
The best of him for me was his hands in tight along with the sixth sense vision that went with them. A lot of the rest of his game i think in fairness to supporters there has always been room for a criticism or two along the way.
Well done Shane as a critic i will remember you with fondness as a player.
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He was tremendous in the premiership years . Great speech today .
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Champion on and off the field
That is all
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Alway been a wrap for Titch , saw his recruitment video and was convinced. I remember when he wasn’t getting a lot of possessions and talking to Wilbur Williams and saying a lot of his possessions turn into a goal. Wilbur said he was one of the first picked for that reason.
Like Lambert a champion bloke who always had smile for the boys and will be missed for his leadership
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChUMNbOgeJB/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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Didn’t rate him early on but I was wrong :clapping
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Really good retirement speech.
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Best exponent of the worm burner I have ever seen
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Pretty embarrassing that channel 10 sport don’t realise that they are using another players pic to announce Shane Edwards retirement #alwaysunderrated #channel10sport
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https://twitter.com/doc_reggie/status/1559463697927798784
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Congratulations again on a great career Shedda and it's a shame you couldn't get one more win.
Let's be honest though he is so cooked.
Had a week off, came on at half time should have been fresh and carved it up but instead he manages 7 disposals and IIRC made a massive costly clanger.
I feel like he went a bit too long. As they say better a year early than a day late, well I reckon this bloke should have hung them up before the MSD at least.
Enjoy retirement mate it wasn't our year anyway and you're an immortal regardless.
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Pretty embarrassing that channel 10 sport don’t realise that they are using another players pic to announce Shane Edwards retirement #alwaysunderrated #channel10sport
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https://twitter.com/doc_reggie/status/1559463697927798784
I haven’t watched channel 10 since they had the footy
And I don’t know anyone who does watch it.
How are they even still on air?
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Massive congrats Sheds and thank you on an amazing career and all you've done for us and the RFC as a Tiger player. Enjoy your post-footy retirement as it's well deserved and all the best for the future. What a Tiger legend! :clapping :bow.
Going out at the right time too so he can proudly have no regrets.
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Champion.
Enjoy life after footy mate and thanks for everything. Was nice to see one vintage brilliant quick handball for the last time.
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Thanks shedda - 3 cups to go with a excellent career 👏👏👏
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Shedda signing off (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f49b.png)
Watch here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1565325786185224193
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The guard of honour by both teams with Sheds being carried off by Cotch and Jack:
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1565326737541541888
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Well done champ. Stay on in a development role.
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Well done champ. Stay on in a development role.
Nope, his interest is recruiting / talent spotting / list management etc
Believe he's been doing some work with our recruiters, learning how the go through and track juniors
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Thanks Shedda :clapping
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Recently retired triple premiership player Shane Edwards has secured his first job since retiring, joining Adelaide's off-field staff.
Edwards was unveiled today as the Crows' Indigenous Player Development Manager while he will also be part of Adelaide's recruiting team.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/860607/tigers-great-edwards-returns-home-to-join-the-crows
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Bummed about this but good on him.
AFC need someone like him after their camp debacle.
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Why didn’t we do this at our club?
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I thought he was going to be apart of our recruiting team?
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I thought he was going to be apart of our recruiting team?
He did some work during the season with our recruiting team, to learn about it, how it works etc
But it was never a lock he was going to be part of out recruiting team.
He's from South Aust as is his partner, comes from a very close family (met his parents numerous times) so absolutely no surprise to me he is going home.
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Good luck Shane
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WARNING: The following image may cause distress.
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https://twitter.com/Adelaide_FC/status/1584348091742040064
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Crows' HR: We'd love you to come and work for our club?
Sheds: Okay.
Crows' HR: There's a short Q&A interview process though to see if you're the right fit for our group?
Sheds: No probs.
Crows' HR: Do you know the Richmond theme song?
Sheds: Of course.
Crows HR: You're hired!
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Following his dad's path eventually into football admin?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Edwards#Personal_life
https://cdfc.com.au/news/greg-edwards-returning-home/
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Edwards swaps Tigers for Crows in SA homecoming
Richmond premiership great Shane Edwards was never tempted to return to his home state while playing, but now retired, he jumped at the chance of joining the Crows.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-latest-on-where-matches-will-be-played-in-magic-round/news-story/7271c94b0cf7a33b536a40901d889216
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WHY PREMIERSHIP TIGER OPTED FOR ADELAIDE.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/17/why-premiership-tiger-opted-for-adelaide-and-his-advice-for-the-rebuilding/
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The anti-dud. An absolute champion.
What an incredible career Shedda. :clapping
Going to miss him this year.
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And to think some thought he was a dud in the early days until they work out what happened when he passes the ball to a forward
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He was underwhelming for a long time but then so was our whole club. Really came good around the dynasty period.