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Title: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on November 25, 2006, 10:23:37 AM
Shane Edwards
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: mightytiges on November 25, 2006, 10:46:08 AM
Nth Adelaide 25/10/1988 179.6 68.6

Why do we pick so skinny kids  :-\
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Mopsy on November 25, 2006, 11:21:47 AM
They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Bulluss on November 25, 2006, 11:33:20 AM
From Bluey's post

36. Essendon - Shane Edwards
My Ranking:  46

Extremely quick and athletic small winger/flanker. Has absolutely electric pace and loves to burn his way off half back flank and through the midfield. Has a very good long kick but can tend to be a bit wayward when he tries to kick without steadying himself. Also played quite well in some senior games in the SANFL and shown himself to be a talent. At this stage requires a bit of development and coaching, but he does possess the prized asset of speed, which in today's game every club is dying to get their hands on. Great project for Sheeds to work on as an athletic player with massive potential. N Brown could be an option if they don't draft MacKenzie.
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Bulluss on November 25, 2006, 11:40:53 AM
14 - ADELAIDE - SHANE EDWARDS
North Adelaide, 25 October 1988, 179.6cm, 68.6kg

Unless Sellar falls through to No.14, expect Adelaide to snap up Edwards with its first selection. The local lad is rated enormously by the Crows and if they don't pounce now, he won't be around by the time their have their second pick at No.32, with Port Adelaide, Richmond and Collingwood just some of the clubs in the mix in the second round. The Crows will also monitor Reid, Petterd and Hislop closely with its first pick, although both players look set to be taken by Melbourne or Richmond at No.12 or No.13 respectively. West Adelaide's Chris Schmidt and North Ballarat's Shaun Grigg are not without a chance at this selection.

Highlights/achievements: Classy, quick midfielder who is smart around goals and evasive. Played 10 games of senior football this year after progressing from the U19's and represented SA at U18 level. Has excellent skills under pressure. Ranked in the top four per cent of participants in the beep test and 3km time trial at the NAB AFL Draft Camp (15.4 beep test/10.00sec 3km). From Golden Grove F.C.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=307324
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: one-eyed on November 25, 2006, 01:08:57 PM
(http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/06/draft06-Shane-Edwards.jpg)
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Ramps on November 25, 2006, 01:30:19 PM
Will be a player I reckon. Its a fair decision, a couple of players like Hislop & Djekurra were taken. Fair enough. Hes a skinny kid but we gotta get him another 8 to 10kgs over the next 2 years. A fair  Selection. No complaints.
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: one-eyed on November 26, 2006, 05:13:39 AM
From Weaver's phantom draft on BF:

10. Shane Edwards - Very much an outside winger with electric pace and long-kicking. Loves open-spaces and showed some toughness in the SANFL that belied his light frame. Can be wasteful when he runs too far and doesn’t steady before kicking. Has good form in senior company, finishing the season very strongly and moving up the draft board. Has no left foot which could be a problem.
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: blaisee on November 26, 2006, 07:06:48 AM
the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.

he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill

he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.

will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.

Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 26, 2006, 12:19:41 PM
They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games

I reckon they are skinny because they aren't eating the foods that will build them up -  e.g. lots of steaks from protein ;D and not doing the other types of training that help in the muscle area e.g the weights. This seems to the norm rather than the exception for the kids that come from interstate. Look at the kids out of the TAC cup and they are in most cases generally bigger because the program here does focus on the other areas

Guarantee you the first thing that the Club will do is set up special diets for all these kids.

If that doesn't work I'll throw 'em a BBQ  ;D
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Mopsy on November 26, 2006, 07:44:13 PM
They are skinny because they are still kids who play sport and eat correctly
not kids who live at maccas and in front of the tv or playing computer games

I reckon they are skinny because they aren't eating the foods that will build them up -  e.g. lots of steaks from protein ;D and not doing the other types of training that help in the muscle area e.g the weights. This seems to the norm rather than the exception for the kids that come from interstate. Look at the kids out of the TAC cup and they are in most cases generally bigger because the program here does focus on the other areas

Guarantee you the first thing that the Club will do is set up special diets for all these kids.

If that doesn't work I'll throw 'em a BBQ  ;D
Not at Maccas I hope WP
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: mightytiges on November 26, 2006, 07:45:16 PM
the club believes edwards could become one of the best outside midfielders in the league within the next three years.

he has explosive 20 m speed, elite endurance and great skill

he will be a better player than jordan mcmahon, and lynsey gilbee put together.

will play the dale thomas role......better than thomas.

Barr up, and lock yourselves in the mens room felles this bloke is gunna rock our world.

Great if it happens but it's a big call to say within the next 3 years. Gilbee was drafted in 1999 at pick 43 (same draft as Fiora  :scream) and McMahon in 2000. It's taken them 5-6 years to develop to where they are now.
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: bluey_21 on November 26, 2006, 07:47:08 PM
From Bluey's post

36. Essendon - Shane Edwards
My Ranking:  46

Extremely quick and athletic small winger/flanker. Has absolutely electric pace and loves to burn his way off half back flank and through the midfield. Has a very good long kick but can tend to be a bit wayward when he tries to kick without steadying himself. Also played quite well in some senior games in the SANFL and shown himself to be a talent. At this stage requires a bit of development and coaching, but he does possess the prized asset of speed, which in today's game every club is dying to get their hands on. Great project for Sheeds to work on as an athletic player with massive potential. N Brown could be an option if they don't draft MacKenzie.



I know I had him a fair way down, but there is plenty to like about Edwards, and I was very pleased to get him at 26.

Runs like the wind and is classy, fits right into TW's gameplan.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 26, 2006, 08:17:24 PM
Not at Maccas I hope WP

 :rollin

No Mopsy - a proper BBQ - big blade steaks or even T-Bones, with some marinated chicken fillets for good measure :thumbsup

My BBQ's are legendary  ;D
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: Mopsy on November 26, 2006, 11:00:21 PM
Not at Maccas I hope WP

 :rollin

No Mopsy - a proper BBQ - big blade steaks or even T-Bones, with some marinated chicken fillets for good measure :thumbsup

My BBQ's are legendary  ;D
Would you like my char-grilled salmon recipe?
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 27, 2006, 12:50:54 PM
Would you like my char-grilled salmon recipe?

Considering my absolute for loathing of Salmon has been highlighted in the past on this very forum Mopsy - I say thanks for the offer but NO thanks  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2006, 03:59:31 PM
Edwards nickname at North Adelaide was Megsy.

(http://www.nafc.com.au/common/uploaded_images//Shane%20Edwards%20120.jpg)

AKA: Megsy

Now mate, your first league game for the roosters what was it like?

It was a fantastic experience and a great honour to wear the roosters jumper at the highest level. It is also great to see others juniors like fife and maca get an opportunity to play league football.

Now growing up, who did you model your footy on and why?

As a huge Geelong fan, Gary Ablett snr was my idol. But to model your footy on him was and is difficult. (he did the impossible). Over recent years, I've admired the skills of Nick Dalsanto and Simon Black.

Now in November the AFL draft is on, you’re almost a certainty to get picked up. What club would you like to go too and why?

If I was ever lucky enough to be drafted, I would love to go to crows or power, so mum can still wash my clothes. If it doesn't happen, I'd love to keep playing at north.

Finally mate, what's going on with the hair? Do the girls like that look?

Well lads, some people colour it, some people cut it. I grow it. And as far as the ladies go, when I hear a negative comment, I’ll let you know. 

http://www.nafc.com.au/news/articles/14801.asp
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: one-eyed on November 27, 2006, 04:10:53 PM
Another pic of Edwards (on the left)
(http://www.nafc.com.au/gallery/pics/uploaded//P7210321B_470.jpg)
Title: Re: Pick 26: Shane Edwards
Post by: one-eyed on November 28, 2006, 03:15:28 AM
SHANE EDWARDS: Draft pick No. 26
richmondfc.com.au

Recruited from: North Adelaide, SA
Born: 25/10/88
Height: 180cm
Weight: 69kg

Classy, quick midfielder who is smart around goals and evasive. Played senior football for North Adelaide in the SANFL this year and represented SA at the under-18 Championships. He first caught the eye of the Tiger talent scouts during a practice match in February this year, where he displayed an outstanding aerobic capacity. Had developed significantly over the course of the season and gained considerable confidence playing against men. Despite his light frame, he’s not intimidated by stronger-bodied opponents, and is a high-average tackler. Is very courageous, capable overhead and has a massive ‘engine’. Has an enormous upside as he develops physically and gains further confidence in his ability.

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=2006draftees
Title: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 14, 2008, 10:43:03 AM
What are your expectations for Edwards this year and what would be a good year for him?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: 08yearofthetiger on January 14, 2008, 10:59:52 AM
Last year Edwards was a revelation for a guy thats 70-75kg to play 15 odd games in his 1st season is excellent.
I have a feeling this year that Edwards will spend more time as a forward this year.
 Although he looks comfortable further up the ground he does have great goal sense and is a crumber-Something that our forward line is lacking. In the future expect him to be a key member of the midfield with the likes of Foley, Lids, Bling, Conners, Cotchin.
For a guy entering only his 2nd year and 1st full pre season he has a terrific tank and will to get to the next contest almost Robert Harvey like. He also brings the X factor With no fear of taking people on. He is an excitement machine.
Expect at least 15 games from this skinny kid with a return of 20-25 goals
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: wayne on January 14, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
I expect he will play a majority of the year in seniors.

I hope his kicking and decision making has developed over the pre-season to the point that he will be a damaging 2nd year player for us.

He looks a special talent. 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 14, 2008, 01:08:12 PM
This kid could be something really special if he sharpens his disposal 15%.

I expect him to play every game for the year predominantly up forward with occassional runs on the ball.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on January 14, 2008, 04:57:43 PM
There's always the chance of 2nd year blues after a unexpected promising debut season but hopefully he'll play nearly every game this year. Like 08 I think he'll spend say 70% of the time as a small forward with spurts through the midfield. He's naturally classy and got a good motor but last year he was prone to fluff his kick now and then so hopefully he's fine tuned that over summer.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on January 15, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
1.  Put on 5 to 7 Kg's,

2.  Whilst losing none of his pace,

3.  Maintain the same work ethic defensively and get to the contests,

4.  A goal a game on average,

5.  Get 12 to 16 possies a game on average,

6.  Get 70% game time on average.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Ox on January 15, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
I will be expecting Shane to have a great year...if not,then he should be prepared to be roasted.
It's just our way :scream
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 15, 2008, 07:55:07 PM
Will have a solid season without being a star.... I reckon will play mainly as a HFF - a bit like Krak used to with more emotion, exuberance and passion. He is a natural crumber and goodness how we need some moreof those.

At least 18 games I reckon
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on January 15, 2008, 11:18:54 PM
important to get senior game time into this bloke will be a champion of the RFC....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Struggletown on January 16, 2008, 02:14:48 PM
Like others have mentioned, id like to see his disposal improve, add 5-10kgs (something I have no problem doing over a weekend), and then I reckon he should be pressing for regular selection.

From what I saw he has excellent endurance and has the important knack of being where the ball is.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Rex on January 17, 2008, 07:44:35 PM
RFC is crying out for a real crumber alah KB in the 80' GF. 10 to 15 possies a game kick 30 - 35 for the year would be a great year for the skinny kid.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 04, 2008, 08:18:40 PM
TRACKING TIGER’S TALENT TO INDIGENOUS ROOTS
Inside Football
February 27, 2008
By Peter Argent

With Richmond's young small forward Shane Edwards revealing has Aboriginal heritage, the list of indigenous AFL footballers has grown yet again.

Edwards takes the tally of Aboriginal players on AFL lists this year to 72 - or just over 10 per cent of the competition.
   
"Yes, on my mother Tara's side, we are Aboriginal descendants,” the Tigers second-year player said.

"Naturally I am very proud of both sides of my heritage.

"It is great to be a part of the Aboriginal family that has Played AFL football.

Edwards was already-a third-generation SANFL footballer before being drafted by Richmond as their second round selection (No.26 overall), making his senior debut for Tigers early last winter.

His father Greg kicked 104 goals for Central District in 1982, before losing the sight in one eye in a freak accident the next year.
   
His uncle Russell played a handful of games with the Port Adelaide Magpies, while his grandfather Doug played for West Torrens and North Adelaide.

Showing a willingness to work hard and back his ability, Edwards displayed plenty of character and desire in his rookie season, playing 16 games after making his first senior appearance in the Round 4 match against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG.

Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.

Edwards is keen to make even more of an impact this season.

“I am looking to take any opportunity by the scruff of the neck and to be consistent when I get my opportunities at the top level,” he said.
 
The former North Adelaide player would love to get a chance to in the middle of the ground, as he played as a wingman for the Roosters in Adelaide, but is happy to play where the Tigers need him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on March 04, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
love this kid, really reckon he will make a name for himself by the end of his career. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 04, 2008, 10:48:51 PM
Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Good to hear. Shane was listed as 71kg last year so he's added another 5kgs over summer.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: tigersalive on March 04, 2008, 11:11:11 PM
Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.

Best part of the whole article.  :clapping

EDIT: Touche MT.  :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on March 05, 2008, 07:08:03 AM
Haven't been so excited about the number 10 since we had a plumber in the back pocket.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: bluey_21 on March 05, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
Always had a hunch Edwards was at least part Aboriginal.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 05, 2008, 06:20:35 PM
Haven't been so excited about the number 10 since we had a plumber in the back pocket.
What not Allister Scott?  lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2008, 07:16:28 PM
Edwards, who arrived at Punt Road with a slightly built 67kg frame, has worked hard to build up his lean body, adding nine kilos already with a view to reaching 80kg.
Good to hear. Shane was listed as 71kg last year so he's added another 5kgs over summer.
It looks like he has beefed up a bit in the photo from training the other day.  Looks less likely to 'snap' in half now!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: 08yearofthetiger on March 05, 2008, 07:21:40 PM
This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
 :gotigers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: bluey_21 on March 05, 2008, 07:32:39 PM
This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
 :gotigers

There is one passage of play i will never forget, though forgot the opposing team lol. Maybe 20 metres out from goal Edwards is sprawled on the ground, he knocks it out to a team-mate who kicks the goal. That really stood out for me.  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 05, 2008, 08:43:47 PM
A gem :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 05, 2008, 11:54:46 PM
There is one passage of play i will never forget, though forgot the opposing team lol. Maybe 20 metres out from goal Edwards is sprawled on the ground, he knocks it out to a team-mate who kicks the goal. That really stood out for me.  :clapping
Was that against the Hawks?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on March 05, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
This kid will be a star. Wins the contested ball as well as the outside posseisions is a true midfielder and when closer to his full playing weight in 2-4 years time will become a gun. He shows confidence and a pint of arrogance, backs himself from a contest and uses the ball well. Plus is a natrual leader with a huge tank.
 :gotigers

Stop it. You are giving me goosebumps.

I would dearly love for one of these talented youngsters in Deledio, Connors, Tambling, Edwards or Cotchin to become an elite footballer in the AFL.

Shane is as good a chance as any IMO.

Exciting times ahead if two or three of them make it.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on March 06, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
A gem :thumbsup

Yes a "Diamond" at that :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on March 12, 2008, 03:41:44 PM
I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed  :-\. So make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards - 2008 expectations?
Post by: wayne on March 12, 2008, 03:44:38 PM
I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed  :-\. So make of that what you will.

Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Ox on March 12, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
will kick 20+ or become fiora mk II
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on March 12, 2008, 04:05:04 PM
I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed  :-\. So make of that what you will.

must have had a huge christmas dinner  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards - 2008 expectations?
Post by: Tigermonk on March 12, 2008, 04:06:17 PM
I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed  :-\. So make of that what you will.

Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?

gee Rioli has really stacked on the beef couldnot beleive the size of him & so has Michael Long
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: wayne again on March 12, 2008, 04:13:14 PM
 He is a champion, he will do the things not many could do or would do or even think of doing. Looking forward to watching him play. :scream :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards - 2008 expectations?
Post by: mightytiges on March 12, 2008, 10:10:45 PM
I was told today the reason Edwards isn't playing seniors is because he's put on too much weight too quickly (unbelievable at RFC eh) and it's affected his speed  :-\. So make of that what you will.

Good weight or Dean Rioli weight?
Going by the look of him good weight. He might need visit Maccas 1 or 200 times to end up like Dean Rioli lol.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on March 12, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
will kick 20+ or become fiora mk II


 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on April 13, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
What did we all think of Shane's game today?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: bluey_21 on April 13, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
His game today reflected his lack of a preseason. Struggled to get into the game in the start. But that last qtr was something special. That chase-down tackle and that goal were highlights. This kid is something special.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: {X} on April 13, 2008, 08:36:03 PM
he did all that was expected of him. contributed well and was a key part of holding the ball in our fwd line and creating fwdline pressure
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2008, 08:46:09 PM
Arghh the future  ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: blx on April 13, 2008, 09:05:49 PM
i know its abit of a hoodoo word around these parts but shane really does have the x factor.

something about his football thats really special. he is one young player i have total confidence in becoming a star.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 14, 2008, 04:00:36 PM
He may have spent time on the bench early on in the game but as everyone else was slowing down he was still flying in the last quarter. He's naturally got a huge tank. He just has heaps of natural ability and footy smarts. Agree blx he could become something special if he continues to work hard.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on April 14, 2008, 04:05:08 PM
l think he gave a good service to the side & does need some MacDonalds on a regular bases  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 14, 2008, 08:10:47 PM
l think he gave a good service to the side & does need some MacDonalds on a regular bases  ;D
lol

Apparently the reason why he wasn't in the side to begin with was because he added weight too quickly over summer and it took the edge of his pace to find the ball. That didn't seem so yesterday especially when he chased down that Docker.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on April 14, 2008, 08:25:23 PM
geez i reckon this kid will be a good one after so many apparent failures. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: richmondrules on April 14, 2008, 09:08:34 PM
geez i reckon this kid will be a good one after so many apparent failures. :thumbsup

There's a reason this kid's my favourite player. I'm investing in the future.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 15, 2008, 12:47:17 AM
No less abilty than Dale Thomas IMO
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 15, 2008, 11:32:52 AM
No less abilty than Dale Thomas IMO

Good call. Needs to be kept in the seniors to develop.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2008, 01:42:13 PM
So what did we all think of Shane's game on Sunday?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: wayne on July 15, 2008, 02:24:16 PM
He was good.

I liked that he was rotated through the middle.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 15, 2008, 06:29:53 PM
Got some pace and skill, that chase of about 80 metres to almost run down the Weagle was great albeit futile. Next time he'll nab the mongrel. Has abit of ticker. I like that. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2008, 04:13:44 AM
How did we all rate Shane's game last night?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: tigersalive on August 03, 2008, 08:30:38 AM
Before that dog Milburn pinned his arms in buried his head 6 feet under I thought it was going to be one of his best games.

Instead he was in our best  but not as good as he could have been without the burial.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: julzqld on August 03, 2008, 08:44:33 AM
Yeah and didn't Milburn then get the free?  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: shannon on August 03, 2008, 09:10:00 AM
geelong fans cried out that solomon was a thug, but how they forget what milburn did to silvagni. and what he did to "titch", just proved he is like barry hall.......once a thug, always a thug. but at least hall thuggerises big bloke, while milburn, picks on little ones like titch
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 22, 2010, 02:03:41 AM
Mark Robinson on Edwards

Shane Edwards.
Had doubts Edwards could make it because he couldn't find a position for so long. His front and square effort on Saturday night was classy, but had nothing on his composure he showed in kicking his dancing, baulking, clever goal near the goal line. Any other year, it would win the GOTY, but in 2010 Buddy has that one in the bag.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 22, 2010, 02:48:39 AM
Mark Robinson on Edwards

Shane Edwards.
Had doubts Edwards could make it because he couldn't find a position for so long. His front and square effort on Saturday night was classy, but had nothing on his composure he showed in kicking his dancing, baulking, clever goal near the goal line. Any other year, it would win the GOTY, but in 2010 Buddy has that one in the bag.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

2 words "Good Coaching"
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 10:27:32 AM
Yep something has changed regarding Edwards, the coaching, the player himself, the positions he has been playing in or the extra percentage he has lifted himself.

Who knows but at the moment I am really enjoying eating my words, lets hope I have many more meals ahead of myself :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on June 22, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
Edwards has stumped me lately, keep lighting that rocket up his arse  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 22, 2010, 11:47:19 AM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 03:13:57 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark

yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 22, 2010, 03:24:25 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark

yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!



do the math or just read Infamys post again

Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark

yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards.... so far I might add!! By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!



do the math or just read Infamys post again



Just MYOB, I didn't quote your post!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 22, 2010, 06:15:42 PM
no such rule.

Public forum - if i dont insult you personally...!

Wouldn't hurt to cut the soul-less posts that are an obvious attempt at communication with another being
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 06:58:27 PM
Gee not sure I deserve all those posts against me...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 22, 2010, 06:59:29 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark

yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards

I don't understand what you mean

Quote
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!

He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 07:02:29 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark

yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards

I don't understand what you mean

Quote
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!

He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.

Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 22, 2010, 08:13:46 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
Quote
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
I realise we've had a lot of early picks not go on from showing anything more than promise and yes it's easy to blame the development side of things, except we've had plenty of quality players go on to play 200+ games, so some of the blame also has to lie with the players themselves.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 22, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Amazing what happens when you let a player develop and get to the 50-60 game mark
yes it is Infamy but it doesn't always go the way it has with Edwards
I don't understand what you mean
Quote
By the way, how many years has it taken him to get to that mark too!!
He's half way through his 4th season and on 60 games. His 50th was in Round 3 against Sydney, which isn't really that long for most AFL players given he'd barely played over 3 seasons.
Well we have had players in our system for 50-60 games and then onto 100+ and they have only been fringe dwellers. As well as that we have had players in the system for 50-60 games and thats it they never progress. So they all don't make it leta just hope Edwards does.
I realise we've had a lot of early picks not go on from showing anything more than promise and yes it's easy to blame the development side of things, except we've had plenty of quality players go on to play 200+ games, so some of the blame also has to lie with the players themselves.

Yep true and good to see Edwards has taken it on himself to hopefully improve even further.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 23, 2010, 01:56:51 AM
Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 23, 2010, 08:08:21 AM
Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.

Dead right.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 23, 2010, 09:56:41 AM
Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
I think you'll find it's both, especially given his small frame when drafted, he was always going to take time
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on June 23, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.
I think you'll find it's both, especially given his small frame when drafted, he was always going to take time

True Infamy, reality was that he had the talent but never the size or the confidence to consistently make a difference on the field.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 28, 2010, 07:31:33 AM
Edwards getting to "50 or 60 games" under his belt has not been the major factor in his improvement. The fact that he is now getting the quality instruction and guidance is.

Exactly.
The ability was always there IMO but this kid was nearly ruined by Wallet.
He's now progressing beautifully.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 28, 2010, 11:14:23 AM
Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either and while he has played well since about round 4 he really needs to maintain his current form. It won't be good enough next year for him to take a step back like Morton has done, regardless of games played or age.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 28, 2010, 11:36:19 AM
always had faith in edwards from day dot

he has pedigree, and his only problem was wallace
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Infamy on June 28, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either

Nice of you to speak on behalf of the wider AFL community. I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
He was your #1 target on this forum for ages, so how about you just eat some humble pie and shut up on the topic. Even now you are focussing on negative "what ifs" about the bloke. Give it a rest FFS.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 28, 2010, 03:18:58 PM
Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either

Nice of you to speak on behalf of the wider AFL community. I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
He was your #1 target on this forum for ages, so how about you just eat some humble pie and shut up on the topic. Even now you are focussing on negative "what ifs" about the bloke. Give it a rest FFS.

Yeah very intelligent Infamy, I expected better from you. Apparently it is a forum and I have eaten my humble pie on Edwards for the moment!! This thread is about Edwards isn't it??? Or are we only allowed to say nice fluffy things about him now?? I would like to suggest that you are full of it.
Maybe you should watch a few more of the footy shows and listen to what they were saying about Edwards so thats what I meant by the wider AFL communinty. I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on June 28, 2010, 05:18:35 PM
I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!

Is there any sort of time frame on that WAT or is it for the rest of his AFL career, is he allowed one bad game every now and then, can he have two bad ones in a row?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 28, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
I will give it a rest when he performs regularly FFS!!!

Is there any sort of time frame on that WAT or is it for the rest of his AFL career, is he allowed one bad game every now and then, can he have two bad ones in a row?

How about the rest of the year and then start off the season next year in the same form, that will do me. I can't understand why so many people bag the crap out of Lids, Tambling, Newman, Moore, McGuane and many more that are clearly more consistent then Edwards, consistent being the word, but they cop it time and time again. Edwards doesnt!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 28, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Many on this forum including myself and the wider AFL community did not think Edwards would make it either

Interesting. I sure wasn't one of them. Have always thought Edwards was a player in the making.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Ox on June 28, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Any fool can see that Edwards has worked hard and is applying himself to the new team environment.
The word consistency is as wasted on Lids as much as Edwards.
Mindless rant.
Title: Edwards helps crack Crows code (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2010, 12:08:02 PM
Edwards helps crack Crows code
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Mon 02 August, 2010


UNDERRATED at the start of the season, Shane Edwards is fast becoming a pillar of the Richmond midfield.

The lightning-quick 21-year-old has played all 18 games this year and is averaging 18 disposals, 2.5 inside-50s and four tackles a game.

Edwards is from Adelaide, so the first win over the club that his mates and family support was even sweeter, especially given Richmond’s horrible record against the Crows - the win was just the second since 1999, with the Crows winning 13 times.

 And he turned it on beautifully, with 29 possessions (10 contested), eight tackles, four clearances, three inside-50s and three rebound-50s.
 
But Edwards was quick to credit his personal stats to the team-orientation of the group.

“It was just good to get a lot of our midfielders and half-backs getting a lot of balls, because we’re good users," he said.

“It was just a well-structured game for us - we played to the structure well, and I couldn’t be happier."

The Crows had the momentum of the match in the second quarter and piled on 13 scoring shots to just one.

However, Adelaide managed just four goals, leaving an invitation that the Tigers duly took.

“We were pretty lucky," Edwards conceded. "On the half-time siren they were going inside 50 again, but the coaches addressed it and it was good see all the players rebound from that and play a good second half.

“We were lucky they wasted a few opportunities, but I guess the footy gods were smiling on us.”

Coach Damien Hardwick said while Edwards might not get much kudos from the fans, inside the club it was different.

“He gets a big mention from the coaches - he’s a terrific young player,” he said.

“Probably a guy that’s taken a little bit of time to find his feet at AFL level, but we feel he’s making that wing position his own.

“He probably gets himself into a little bit of trouble - he confuses himself at times, going around in circles, but what he’s got is an uncanny ability to find a teammate, in and out of traffic.

“He’s become a very important player for us, and he’s having a very, very good year.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/99472/default.aspx
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 02, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
As his confidence grows, so has his output. Really clever player, especially in heavy traffic.
Great story for 2010.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Stripes on August 02, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
Tambling has a very similar mindset - when he is confident like when he first arrived at the club and, to a smaller degree, last year he showed his class and skill. When he is down on confidence he is a liability to the team as he second guesses his ability and decisions. If Dimma and the other coaches can do to Bling what they have down with Edwards then we will have multiple Aboriginal developing stars in our side instead of the one  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Siberian on August 02, 2010, 03:52:36 PM
You can safely say Richie Tambling is very consistent
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: 3rogerd on August 02, 2010, 09:39:21 PM
can only improve i feel.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 02, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Anyone know why Edwards' arm was in a sling at the B&F? Post-season shoulder surgery?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs408.snc4/47155_432876053275_298686323275_4875102_6186054_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 02, 2010, 09:11:52 PM
Bicep enhancement?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards thread [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 02, 2010, 10:55:55 PM
Bicep enhancement?
;D
Title: Shane Edwards
Post by: Jackstar is back again on July 16, 2011, 03:18:52 PM
dont anyone dare say that Shane Edwards is the future.
Is a dumb footballer who shouldnt be making basic mistakes after being in the system a number of years
Has to be traded.
Too easily pushed aside
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: TigerLand on July 16, 2011, 03:22:35 PM
Here here.

Take wacko Jackson with him.

stuffing pee.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 16, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
Jackson first. FHRO  >:(
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: sabartooth on July 16, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
edwards first to go, for me
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 16, 2011, 04:49:17 PM
edwards first to go, for me

Nope - Jackson for mine, disgraceful  :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 04:52:42 PM
How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 04:55:58 PM
BOTH SHOULD BE TRADED and if not tradeable SACKED at the end of the season. Having said that they can take about 12 blokes with them.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 16, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.

Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt

Edwards I'd want something really decent for him  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: WA Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:56:21 PM
How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.

Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt

Edwards I'd want something really decent for him  ;D

Should of been traded last year when he was worth a buck fifty instead of pretending he was going to be and elite player...now he is worth about thirty cents...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 06:59:02 PM
If that I used to get a bag of mixed lollies as a kid at the local milk bar for 20 cents.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: WA Tiger on July 16, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
If that I used to get a bag of mixed lollies as a kid at the local milk bar for 20 cents.


 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 16, 2011, 07:11:39 PM
How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.

That was most evident today, could have said that was an area that cost us the game today, but there were too many areas that did.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: the claw on July 16, 2011, 08:10:23 PM
How about both at the same time.
I can't separate their inefficiency on the ground.
Both momentum killers, both poor, both every time they use the ball or get near it both are a important link in the chain to us losing the ball having a goal scored against us or passing off to a teammate who is under pressure.
They wouldn't be B Graders in the the amateurs.

Gotta get rid of at least 1 so first up has to be Jackson, GWS would take him a heart beat, ditto N0rt

Edwards I'd want something really decent for him  ;D
ill offer you a packet of krispy cremes and a mars bar about all hes worth.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: dizza on July 16, 2011, 08:17:17 PM
Beats me how Edwards still gets a game. BASIC mistakes that cost us every week!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 16, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
We'd be lucky to get offered a wagon wheel IMHO.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: wayne on July 16, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
Dustin Martin gets the free kick just outside 50, Jackson sprints on after the ball which went over the back of the contest. From my vantage point he is showing every indication that he will gather the ball and play on. He gathers the ball, runs a few steps then stops and turns to the umpire.....  :banghead

Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
Yep a minute later Ablett who laid the tackle on Jackson kicks the first goal of the last to get GC within 5 points.
Was it a 12 point play? Possibly. Knowing Jako he would've missed anyway.
We didn't get a point in the last when it was adjudicated that White kicked it out on the full when it clearly went through for a point all before it was believed it was a free to us.
All in all a shocking day.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
No Krispy Kremes, Mars Bars or Wagon Wheels clearly Edwards is worth is clearly that of a fun size boost bar,
melting chocolate under pressure, nuts equating to his momentum killing acts, biscuit pieces to shatter the psyche of your teammates and the fans all topped off with flowing wobbly caramel that pierces the soft centre of any team in need of inspiration and cohesion.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 16, 2011, 09:23:01 PM
Maybe Jackson and Edwards can be the Milky Ways b/c with them in our side we are light years away from anything. List cloggers.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 16, 2011, 09:58:13 PM
Bowel cloggers
Title: Shane Edwards
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 14, 2011, 08:44:54 PM
this boy was young raw and so skinny when he came over

but he is a footballer

and one more preseaon he will have a bigger body, and he is getting much better with his work off the balll and his defensive game

this kid will be a gun, he has footy smarts like his dad
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Penelope on August 14, 2011, 08:50:57 PM
kicks like a cad, though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 14, 2011, 08:59:09 PM
kicks like a cad, though.

Agree, I believe he has great potential, but when he gets the ball I close my eyes.
It feels like he rushes his decision and either butchers the ball or turns it over immediately.

Slow down and read the play, then you will really have a stronger contribution.  :)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Smokey on August 14, 2011, 09:00:20 PM

and one more preseason he will have a bigger body,

Not buying into the argument about his ability/worth but after 5 seasons and with his base body shape I can't see him getting much bigger than he is now.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 14, 2011, 09:01:28 PM
Please

Skinny and Raw when he came over as opposed to what now? A running machine? The next Rioli?

The guy is a spud no matter how you sugar coat is.

1 descent game 5 pathetic ones

Trade
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Tigermonk on August 14, 2011, 09:01:30 PM

and one more preseason he will have a bigger body,

Not buying into the argument about his ability/worth but after 5 seasons and with his base body shape I can't see him getting much bigger than he is now.

lets hope his brain grows  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards
Post by: Penelope on August 14, 2011, 09:04:02 PM
kicks like a cad, though.

Agree, I believe he has great potential, but when he gets the ball I close my eyes.
It feels like he rushes his decision and either butchers the ball or turns it over immediately.

Slow down and read the play, then you will really have a stronger contribution.  :)

connors is the same. Jackson is just dumb though.

noticed early on a number of players caught caught when they had plenty of time, almost as if they were making concious effort to settle before disposal , but going too far.
Title: Edwards could also be of interest to Adelaide (Adelaide Advertiser)
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2011, 01:52:05 AM
Edwards could also interest Adelaide....


Another Richmond Croweater, Shane Edwards, could also be of interest to Adelaide but the Tigers midfielder - who has played 89 games in five seasons - is satisfied at Punt Rd.

"I think he's pretty happy where he is," Edwards' father Greg said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/nason-could-be-crows-answer/story-e6frecoc-1226135236894
Title: Re: Edwards could also be of interest to Adelaide (Adelaide Advertiser)
Post by: mightytiges on September 13, 2011, 03:04:07 AM
Edwards could also interest Adelaide....


Another Richmond Croweater, Shane Edwards, could also be of interest to Adelaide but the Tigers midfielder - who has played 89 games in five seasons - is satisfied at Punt Rd.

"I think he's pretty happy where he is," Edwards' father Greg said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/nason-could-be-crows-answer/story-e6frecoc-1226135236894
Shane is tradeable but not to wasted on a Maric.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: eliminator on September 13, 2011, 06:49:38 AM
Definitely tradeable. His skills just really let him down, his kicking in particular. When he is in possession you do cringe because more than likely he will turn it over and it will be a costly turnover. It is a shame because he is a good mark for his size.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 13, 2011, 07:49:31 AM
in the last few games ( I didnt see the north game so not too sure about it) his inside work was very good. i think it was the sydney game  it was as good as you will see.

The beauty of it was that because there was so much clearance work he was not getting those uncontested possessions wide and then buggering it up with a shanked kick
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 13, 2011, 12:20:06 PM
Shane's North game was pretty good imo.  I like the amount of turnovers he causes and ball he wins, too much is made of his muff ups and if he can stop rushing his disposals he will become very potent.  That's Owls shoe in of the week, you can all rip the pee if it fails to eventuate coz I have no pride.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 13, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
F O L E Y
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: torch on September 13, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
Grow some balls Hardwick and remove Edwards from Richmond!

Edwards IS NOT a player that is going to win you a final or premiership!

Edwards is a lost clogger!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on September 13, 2011, 08:36:23 PM


Edwards is a lost clogger!

haha.
 true...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Willy, guess where I was a few minutes ago? Reading about Edwards at our old stomping ground  :lol

Guess which genius wrote this. give you a hint, you went a few rounds with him over Tambo  ;D

 Shane Edwards is probably the most creative attacking player in our side. I'm sure he is instructed to take risks, which means he will occasionally make mistakes, but the good FAR outweighs the bad. Unfortunately, it seems this is only recognised by a minority of supporters - dare I say, the more astute ones

Watch in particular for goals where we have quickly moved the ball from defence &, instead of giving King, Martin, Nahas, etc the credit for finishing the move, rewind to where it started. I'd estimate that perhaps 70% of the time, you'll find that Shed was the player responsible for the goal.


There you go, guys. Edwards is responsible for nearly all our rebounding goals.....not to mention 4-5 opposition goals every week :santa

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 13, 2011, 09:44:45 PM
Well Davey, if I wanted to know that posters opinion, I would've changed forums.
Maybe you can leave it there because frankly the care factor is very low here.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 09:46:16 PM
Well Davey, if I wanted to know that posters opinion, I would've changed forums.
Maybe you can leave it there because frankly the care factor is very low here.

That post was to Willy, ynb, not you :thumbsup I'm sure Wilbur will get a chuckle which was the point of the post. Posts from BF get quoted every now and then, so I don't see why I cant quote some bloke from another site.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on September 13, 2011, 09:50:44 PM
Willy, guess where I was a few minutes ago? Reading about Edwards at our old stomping ground  :lol

Guess which genius wrote this. give you a hint, you went a few rounds with him over Tambo  ;D

 Shane Edwards is probably the most creative attacking player in our side. I'm sure he is instructed to take risks, which means he will occasionally make mistakes, but the good FAR outweighs the bad. Unfortunately, it seems this is only recognised by a minority of supporters - dare I say, the more astute ones

Watch in particular for goals where we have quickly moved the ball from defence &, instead of giving King, Martin, Nahas, etc the credit for finishing the move, rewind to where it started. I'd estimate that perhaps 70% of the time, you'll find that Shed was the player responsible for the goal.


There you go, guys. Edwards is responsible for nearly all our rebounding goals.....not to mention 4-5 opposition goals every week :santa

You mean the one that had a browse of my private messages?

 :o

And dont I have egg on myself about, Tambo!     :shh   :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 09:52:55 PM
No, not Donuts :lol it is the man that has seen it all! :o



Would be happy to trade Edwards. He has let Gerks down for the last time and needs to be dealt with.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 13, 2011, 09:57:30 PM
He has. This bloke has spat in the face of my people. No longer  >:(
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2011, 10:01:30 PM
Posts from BF get quoted every now and then, so I don't see why I cant quote some bloke from another site.
Provided the post is only about footy post a link as a source; if it's about issues relating to another site then we aren't interested.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 10:06:26 PM
No issues here, just thought the post was interesting and I thought Slick Willy would like a look at it. I love all sites :)

Gerks, are you jumping completely off the bandwagon? You were such an admirable advocate for Shane.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 13, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
No issues here, just thought the post was interesting and I thought Slick Willy would like a look at it. I love all sites :)

Gerks, are you jumping completely off the bandwagon? You were such an admirable advocate for Shane.

Why don't you write Gerks a letter? this is a thread for the masses and you are turning it into an Andrew Bolt column.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 10:16:15 PM
 Mate, get off your high horse. it's a football related post just like the quote was. I've posted with Greg Gerkin  for a fair few years and he's always been an Edwards fan. I'd like to know if he's jumped off the bandwagon, so how about you post your thoughts on Shed instead of taking pot shots? That sound fair? Or maybe you can go through every other thread where posters haven't quite stuck to the topic and do your backseat moderating there. Your choice

FWIW, I thought Edwards was going to be a gun after 07. Looked dangerous as a small forward...too inconsistent these days and still a lightweight

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 13, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
you do know that Sheds is now his nickname at the club LMFAO

a bittersweet gerks legacy

and can you please keep your love letters to yellowandback & willy to yourselves
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 13, 2011, 10:30:41 PM
FWIW I think Davey sounds more like Patrick Smith....Kevin, Kevin. High horse lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 10:32:23 PM
HOw dare you
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 13, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
But i digress, all this love for Sheds has been de-bunked.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2011, 10:51:33 PM
But he is right, let's keep this bad boy Edwards related
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on September 14, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
Another one of Owls revelations.  You read it here.  Get stuffed.
Title: Re: Edwards could also be of interest to Adelaide (Adelaide Advertiser)
Post by: T_o_O on September 18, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Edwards rightly has his critics.
However I certainly wouldn't give him away cheaply as there are a lot of positive traits to his game.
No doubt his kicking was very disappointing in the first half of this year before he cleaned it up a bit towards the end but I do think it's overstated a bit by some, mainly because his howlers, really are howlers. However he's also capable of kicking some very nice passes. Consistency by foot is his No.1 issue.
Because of this I share in much of the frustration as he's still making the same fundamental errors by foot after 5 years and at this point doubt it will change, however he's far from the worst on our list. I don't expect he'll be traded cheaply, in fact I'll be surprised if he's traded at all.
 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 20, 2011, 03:30:59 AM
We need at least one player that can be vented at for the entirety of the RFC's woes. I reckon keep shed coz at least he does some good things
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 25, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
Shane Edwards turns 23 today  :birthday
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on October 25, 2011, 12:32:39 PM
Meet him a few times at Club 80, got to know him really well.

Great bloke, shows great leadership.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 25, 2011, 12:54:36 PM
Happy Birthday Titchey Knee :birthday May your football improve significantly in the coming 12 months ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
I would still like to see Edwards tried as a small forward/HF. He works hard both ways and is normally a good mark for his size. For mine he is too small and footpassing too erratic for our midfield especially in the guts long-term. We need a better class of second tier mids to improve.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 25, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
I would still like to see Edwards tried as a small forward/HF. He works hard both ways and is normally a good mark for his size. For mine he is too small and footpassing too erratic for our midfield especially in the guts long-term. We need a better class of second tier mids to improve.

yeah a drifting pest forward - i recall him in a few games as a fwd if he kicked straight he wouldve kicked bags of 6 or 7 instead was usually 3goals 4  :lol nothing to lose and ur right hes too eratic by foot leave him fwd bc he moves very well in traffic
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on October 25, 2011, 07:06:02 PM
His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking.  You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 25, 2011, 07:41:17 PM
The sooner we move McGuane there the better....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on October 25, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
I agree with the option of moving him to a hff even the pocket, his evasive and creative skills will be best served there. He could yet be refined as a Stephen Milne type and imo has more tricks in his kit than Milne. Yes he has blown a couple of opportunities to kick a bag, but I think the danger lies in what he can create for the runners streaming into the fwd line.
On the other hand, I also think he actually needs to get a little bit more hungry/selfish around goals, and get himself a bag of 5 or 6, it will do wonders for him.

To all of the Edwards haters out there, I have got bad news for you. Edwards needs to get better for Richmond to get better. You need to start barracking for him, I know it can be hard, I'm a fan of him but yeah he totally peed me off this year with his shanked kicks. But I also think that rfc are playing him in the wrong role if they are asking him to kick into the corridor from a hbf, that job should be left to the best kick in the side if possible.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on October 25, 2011, 08:13:10 PM

To all of the Edwards haters out there, I have got bad news for you. Edwards needs to get better for Richmond to get better. You need to start barracking for him, I know it can be hard...

Sorry DCrane, but I choose the 'bag the crap out of him for 12 months then hope we trade his boney a r s e' option.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on October 25, 2011, 08:14:13 PM
think the danger lies in what he can create for the runners streaming into the fwd line.


Valid point. That's the frustrating thing about Titch. He is gifted in many respects, hut his foot skills are just shizen. This is his last chance to step up, i reckon.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on October 25, 2011, 08:14:45 PM
His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking.  You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.

wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on October 25, 2011, 09:24:52 PM
hahahaha cant believe this spud still gets air time.

LMFAO.

5 years of rubbish
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 25, 2011, 09:44:36 PM
hahahaha cant believe this spud still gets air time.

LMFAO.

5 years of rubbish

Dead right, waste of space, waste of a thread too....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking.  You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.

wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Muscles on October 26, 2011, 01:28:16 PM
His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking.  You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.

wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.

Reckon Titch has always had a flawed kicking action, MT.  Three goals in a quarter must just prove that every dog has his day.  When he is under any pressure, perceived or real, at the moment of his ball drop, he pulls his right shoulder back and his head comes up and the kick can go anywhere.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2011, 03:58:16 PM
His erratic field kicking is only surpassed by hus shedhouse goal kicking.  You can't be serious about putting him in the forward, ffs may as well bring back Thursty to play in the forward line.

wtf haver we got to lose? hes a liability in the backline and midfield with his momentum killing turnovers, at least in the fwd line his misses result in behinds instead of opposition goals and he will keep a defender honest
Yep better to turn over possession kicking a point and then being good enough defensively as a team applying the press to keep the ball in our forward half to regain possession than to have midfielders who kick grubbers straight to the opposition in the middle of the ground with our backline wide open and exposed gifting easy opposition goals. We won't improve until we find 2nd tier mids better than Edwards who have size to win their own ball and dispose of it effectively rather than constantly miss gettable targets and turn the ball over. Furthermore I remember Edwards in his first year kicking 3 goals in a quarter against the Bombers playing across HF and pushing back inside 50 so he once wasn't such an ordinary kick for goal.

Reckon Titch has always had a flawed kicking action, MT.  Three goals in a quarter must just prove that every dog has his day.  When he is under any pressure, perceived or real, at the moment of his ball drop, he pulls his right shoulder back and his head comes up and the kick can go anywhere.
That's true Muscles. I'm not denying that. I guess all I'm saying is if Edwards is going to played in the side next year (which he will) then the area of the ground where his errors by foot won't be so costly is up forward. Similar to Kingy. They are flawed footballers in terms of skills but until we find/draft better players to replace them then they will continue to get games.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Muscles on October 26, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
I agree with MT.  The place on the ground where Titch would cause us the fewest heartaches is in the forward pocket.  As you say, anywhere else, he's a momentum killer.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Danog on October 26, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
Half forward flank I'd say.  Has the tank to run up onto the wing, and has the hands to play in the guts occasionally.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 26, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on October 26, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

This makes the most sense as he will use hands more but tbh if we want to play him where it causes the least damage then put him in the 2's
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 26, 2011, 09:46:36 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....

Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....

agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dizza on October 26, 2011, 09:52:43 PM
Half forward flank I'd say.  Has the tank to run up onto the wing, and has the hands to play in the guts occasionally.

The thing is though, how many times have we seen him running towards the 50 and shanking the kick?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 26, 2011, 10:29:42 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....

Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....

agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup

Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 26, 2011, 10:47:24 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....

Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....

agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup

Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on October 26, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

Oh al please I like you mate and I hate arguing with you but....

Really, side step..second to none...please he side steps right into tackles mate. Create space....what so he can turn it over...quick hands...maybe in the change rooms after the game....

agree with your last comment though.. :thumbsup

Some things can only be seen with your eyes and mind open.

Al with Edwards i watched with eyes wide open for what is it now 5 years and applauded his end to 2010 for what i thought was a step in the right direction

His 2011 was further proof IMO that he is only getting a game because well we have no other options.

He is filling a gap much like Mcguane and Miller are untill a better player comes good. Right now its either Edwards or someone like Connors so we are kind of stuck with him.

Just on his "side steps" i dont really care who he can side step if he then kicks it straight to an opposition player. He could be Muhammad Ali for all i care but facts are he is a average footballer who is getting gifted games.

His kicking is not his worst aspect of his game, that would be his defensive pressure.

Does he know how to lay a tackle or really put pressure on opponents. Negative.



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 26, 2011, 11:22:55 PM
his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.

I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.

But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.

many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)

Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.

FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on October 26, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.

I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.

But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.

many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)

Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.

FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.

Usually don't like to comment on such things as everyone has an opinion and they're usually quite stalwart. But in this case you look a little out numbered so just want to pipe in and say I agree with you. The disclaimer being I'm not saying the bloke is a champion. I personally do think he has a pretty good work rate and has a knack of getting to the ball and chucking on good tackles around packs or applying enough pressure to force opponents to fumble. You're right about watching him live, he's always doing something for the team that is easily overlooked on the telly. If he improved on his delivery skills but like mentioned he would be a really valuable player. He's the kind of fella I don't mind having on the field. Certainly no gun but far from a spud.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 26, 2011, 11:37:24 PM
his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.

I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.

But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.

many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)

Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.

FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.

Haters gonna hate.

You're not alone. Good post.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 01:22:35 AM
God lets all hug like Edwards groupies...

He is not an AFL footballer, never has been and never will be, stick up for him all you like, but unless he puts on another 10kilos and kicks straight he aint going to make it.

Get used to it, he is another fringe player at best and we don't need fringe players to win games...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 27, 2011, 07:11:22 AM
his 2011 was marred by a severely interupted pre season. he had the red vest on much of pre season training which meant no contact work.

I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad.

But watch the adelaide game from last year and watch how many times he takes possesion under pressure but manages to get an effective handball to a team mate, which usually resulted as a kick inside 50.

many time he was so deft you could easily miss it, probably more so watching live where you dont get as good a view of much of the inside work done by players as watching TV. ( as opposed to things like defensive pressure and work rate, which are a lot harder to pick up on TV)

Not trying to convince anyone he is a good player, but he does bring something to the team when he is on song. Just need to see it more often.

FWIW, he laid the 9th most tackles at the club this year, so while not an argument in favour, it's not really one against him.

Good summary al

Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive.

Think people shpuld have another look at his game against the Swans at the MCH as a defensive forward; again very good inside but his kicking was terrible...sums him up really

But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.

Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.

Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 27, 2011, 03:01:53 PM
All will be revealed in 2012. Edwards has well and truly served his apprenticeship, 24 years old next year. Perform consistently or GTFO. No more excuses :thumbsup
good luck Shedwards
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 27, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.

Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.

Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????

Seriously WAT are you reading all off the posts or just parts of them to help with your point  :huh

Because you seem to be ignoring some things

I said this:
"Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive" and ended by saying "But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list"

al said:
"I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad"

So I don't think anyone is disputing that he isn't a great player or that he is going to win us a flag

As for you wanting more than 2 games highlighted how many would be enough 4, 6, 20, 30?

The point is he isn't the worst on our list.

Yes Morton is probably a better player skills wise (who went missing far too often IMO) but he wanted out so he is gone

As for others worse than Edwards? I'd say Connors, Dea (at this stage, although early), Gourdis & Graham could be called "worse" and those on par with Edwards would be Jackson & Post

Just my take


Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 27, 2011, 03:19:31 PM
Daniel Jackson is great. He is in the same Lord of the rings fan club as me :)

Edwards has played a few ripper games but by eff is he inconsistent. I agree that he should get a run across half forward.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 06:53:17 PM
Its great that when some of you are promoting Edwards you are using ONE game each as an example....that shows ho inconsistent and erratic his from is. How about you use multiple games as examples.....mmmmm...you cant, but we could for his bad performances.

Edwards, Connors, Thursfield, Hislop, Morton (who IMO is better thann Edwards), McGuane (who again I rate better than Edwards but he cops far more crap) etc... they are all the same, Edwards should not be on our list IMO.

Who do we have that is far worse then in peoples opinion??????

Seriously WAT are you reading all off the posts or just parts of them to help with your point  :huh

Because you seem to be ignoring some things

I said this:
"Your are right unfortunately for Edwards; hs is like a lot of players on our list and that is the gap between his good and not good is massive" and ended by saying "But IMHO he certainly isn't the worst on our list"

al said:
"I understand and know he has his limitations, but he does have some pluses. He just needs to consistantly show it, coz when he is bad he is bad"

So I don't think anyone is disputing that he isn't a great player or that he is going to win us a flag

As for you wanting more than 2 games highlighted how many would be enough 4, 6, 20, 30?

The point is he isn't the worst on our list.

Yes Morton is probably a better player skills wise (who went missing far too often IMO) but he wanted out so he is gone

As for others worse than Edwards? I'd say Connors, Dea (at this stage, although early), Gourdis & Graham could be called "worse" and those on par with Edwards would be Jackson & Post

Just my take

No WP, all good, reading them all.

I just dont see any positives to his game where athers do, some are pointing out his apparent good side as well as his bad....so there you go.

How many games you ask...highlight me more than 5 this year when you would of said..WOW he is an important part of theis team, he will help us get into finals...

Edwards has had way more, 100 times more games to prove himself then all of the players you have mentioned bar Jackson and IMO Jackson is better. At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on October 27, 2011, 06:59:52 PM
put him in the middle and tell him only to get contested ball and handball.

His ability to sidestep and create space in heavy traffic is second to none and he has very quick hands.

his ability to shank his kicks is also second to none.

Exactly Al if he didn't need his feet to run you would tape them together so he couldn't kick
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 27, 2011, 07:35:40 PM
At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....

Edwards doesn't have the size but he puts his body on the line every time, and doesn't give away free kicks doing it.

Better decision maker than Jackson, just as bad a kick.

I'd take Shed, but it's kinda like picking between Selma or Patty.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 27, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
It takes more courage when you are built like Edwards, and faith in your own ability, to win the ball in congestion than someone like Jackson.

Besides, Jackson is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Edwards'

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
It takes more courage when you are built like Edwards, and faith in your own ability, to win the ball in congestion than someone like Jackson.

Besides, Jackson is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Edwards'

al, your last sentence could actually read....Besides, Edwards is a pin head. with his stupidity and poor decision making, his negatives far outweigh Jacksons'

Honestly, IMO, I think we will see Jackson get his act together more next year than Edwards...but thats what I think..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 08:43:18 PM
At least Jackson has the build and puts his body on the line....

Edwards doesn't have the size but he puts his body on the line every time, and doesn't give away free kicks doing it.

Better decision maker than Jackson, just as bad a kick.

I'd take Shed, but it's kinda like picking between Selma or Patty.

gerks, he turns it over more than he turns over for his boyfriend...his body is usually over the line...on the bench where he belongs..

Selma or patty.....haha :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 27, 2011, 08:50:46 PM
you really believe that edwards does the same acts of stupidity that give away frees, 50s and lead to suspensions that Jackson does?

For real?

edwards hardly ever takes the wrong option, but he misses the target, generally by a long way, too often.

Jackson takes the wrong option too often, or more to the point cant make up his mind and panics, as well as missing the target too often.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 09:10:21 PM
you really believe that edwards does the same acts of stupidity that give away frees, 50s and lead to suspensions that Jackson does?

For real?

edwards hardly ever takes the wrong option, but he misses the target, generally by a long way, too often.

Jackson takes the wrong option too often, or more to the point cant make up his mind and panics, as well as missing the target too often.

Stupitity and poor decision making I said.....nothing to do with suspension.

Mate we will have to agree to dissagree....Edwards worse is worse than Jacksons IMO...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on October 27, 2011, 09:23:19 PM
probably why edwards has a new contract and jacko is still hanging with mr cooper
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 09:35:18 PM
probably why edwards has a new contract and jacko is still hanging with mr cooper

Oh well if true, what will be will be....can't change the result.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on October 27, 2011, 10:18:04 PM
getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 10:26:06 PM
getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh

Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 27, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
no, he's stupid.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 10:35:21 PM
no, he's stupid.

Edwards... :thumbsup..agree
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on October 27, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
Jackson ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 27, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh

Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)

Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 27, 2011, 10:45:18 PM
getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh

Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)

Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.

Agree Smokey, look both have their faults and big time IMO, game losing faults...

one turns the ball over and does "stupid" things by getting reported and the other one....

turns the ball over, gets tackled all the time, cant kick to save his life, has the body of a 12 year old girl, can't hold down a regular KP, was the man on the grassy knowl, introduced carbon tax, is responsible for world famine and really should be the chief lettuce slicer at McDonalds..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on October 27, 2011, 11:20:50 PM
getting suspended has nothing to do with stupidity? :huh

Might be reckless, unintentional, accidental, completely different to stupidity... ;)

Not in the past few of Jackson's cases WAT - stupidity of the highest order.

Agree Smokey, look both have their faults and big time IMO, game losing faults...

one turns the ball over and does "stupid" things by getting reported and the other one....

turns the ball over, gets tackled all the time, cant kick to save his life, has the body of a 12 year old girl, can't hold down a regular KP, was the man on the grassy knowl, introduced carbon tax, is responsible for world famin and really should be the chief lettuce slicer at McDonalds..... ;D ;D

I don't know if Edwards is responsible for world famine - he looks more like a victim of it!   :o
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: H Tiger on October 28, 2011, 12:02:21 AM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 28, 2011, 12:39:11 AM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.

 :bow :cheers :clapping....pretty nicely summed up!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 04, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 04, 2012, 07:56:03 PM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10

He is a twitter... :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on January 04, 2012, 07:58:30 PM
I know what you are but what is he :-\
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Guus on January 04, 2012, 07:59:43 PM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10

He is a twitter... :whistle

What is your problem?  :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 04, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
He is a twitter... :whistle


where as you're bitter.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 04, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
He is a twitter... :whistle


where as you're bitter.

That you are a twitter to..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 04, 2012, 09:35:14 PM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10

He is a twitter... :whistle

What is your problem?  :huh

Hi Shane.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on January 05, 2012, 04:55:08 AM
Leave out the insults ppl!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Guus on January 05, 2012, 05:09:40 AM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10

He is a twitter... :whistle

What is your problem?  :huh

Hi Shane.... :thumbsup

Long time lurker here and yes I do know SHane. Good bloke and does not deserve the crap youre flinging at him. Quite a few not happy with you champ
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on January 05, 2012, 07:45:12 AM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.

What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game..  Selective memory

People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week. 

i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me.. 

 :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on January 05, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
well the trick is here, you don't show your cards too early or your gonna get baited like a mofo lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on January 05, 2012, 08:30:04 AM
 :lol
so true
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on January 05, 2012, 08:55:55 AM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.

What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game..  Selective memory

People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week. 

i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me.. 

 :banghead
Jackson is poo compared to Edwards, and that's saying something. Edwards has the ability to be a good solid serviceable player, but for whatever reasons (injury, no pre season etc) his 2011 was backward on his 2010. Needs to get back to the 2010 form and improve on that and then WAT will shut his mouth.

Shane should be the first to admit he has shown very little in the 5 odd years he has been at the club, if he is satisfied with his performances to date than that is a worry indeed. I dont think that would be the case though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Guus on January 05, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.

What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game..  Selective memory

People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week. 

i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me.. 

 :banghead

Some truly pathetic "supporters" out there, mate. You would think Edwards was seen on the Grassy Knoll with a smoking gun in his hand.  :scream
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on January 05, 2012, 01:44:03 PM
I'm with you Guus, stuff football ability and performance let's base our team selection and recruitment on the personality of footballers.

Don't worry about that Smokey dude he is just a trouble maker on here.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on January 05, 2012, 01:57:31 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 05, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
Edwards can play and Dimma knows it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 05, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
Titch is on twitter....

https://twitter.com/S_Edwards10

He is a twitter... :whistle

What is your problem?  :huh

Hi Shane.... :thumbsup

Long time lurker here and yes I do know SHane. Good bloke and does not deserve the crap youre flinging at him. Quite a few not happy with you champ

Oh really "champ"...gee what a shame, "lurker"...mmmmm, probably a few other names for you too then.

Might be a magic bloke, best bloke on earth...doesn't mean he can play at AFL level. When he shows he can I will get off his back. Also good to see you speak for others.... :bow

Forum by the way, I can have my say lurker. Now go get some tissues and watch a re-run of Steel Magnolias with Shane!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 05, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Jackson is a far better footballer at his best than Edwards at his best.

But really this year it was like watching dumb and dumber.

Edwards year was summed up by one piece of play in the second Bumbers game. Great mark in the back pocket followed by a beautiful kick into the man on the mark. He is like a learner driver trying to fit into a tight parallel park you don't want to watch, can't look away, and it takes him forever to it right.

Not good enough, prefer others.

What about the piece of play when he marked played on and delivered in the 1st bumbers game..  Selective memory

People need to remember that he was K.O'd during the season and also carried an injury in the second half of the year.. Shane is a bloody good player and that is why he is playing in the side each and every week. 

i left a different forum because i was so sick and tired of players being bagged out each and every week. i am hoping this one isnt the same. i dont mind a player being criticised but to just mindlessly dump on a player isnt what supporting a team is about to me.. 

 :banghead
Needs to get back to the 2010 form and improve on that and then WAT will shut his mouth.

Shane should be the first to admit he has shown very little in the 5 odd years   he has been at the club, if he is satisfied with his performances to date than that is a worry indeed. I dont think that would be the case though.

Yes I will...

And to think Edwards 5 years... Conca 1 year, Houli 1 year (at our club)......I honestly dont have to name them all do I....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 06, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
4th in the run today. Continuing an excellent pre-season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on January 06, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 06, 2012, 06:16:39 PM
if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........

No there won't be. Alternatively if he has a good start to the season there will be no excuses for those who've bagged him. ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on January 06, 2012, 06:28:04 PM

Alternatively if he has a good start to the season there will be no excuses for those who've bagged him. ;)

Won't that light the forum up!   :o
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on January 06, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 06, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o

Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on January 06, 2012, 08:02:11 PM
now that would be funny  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on January 06, 2012, 08:40:58 PM
No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o

Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

:lol

I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 06, 2012, 10:15:41 PM
No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o

Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

:lol

I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke

Look, if he plays well enough to earn another contract or to stay beyond 2012 then great, power to him. But if he plays like crap AGAIN and we keep him.......the culture is still at the club, we accept mediocracy...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on January 06, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
And excuses.  :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 06, 2012, 11:17:42 PM
stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on January 06, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
No. If he has a good game it will be "Well he has to do it forever now doesn't he!!!!!!". ;D and they'd be right :o

Whether you are taking the pizz or not you are right...and I dont give two craps if he plays a good game round 1. It will mean jack poo....when he plays a decent season and continues to do it over a few seasons then butter the bread, put my words in between and I will gladly eat them....Until then history (Shanes) has a record and it aint flash.....the future is yet to happen so don't make him a star during the pre season!!!!! stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

:lol

I'm not even an Edwards fan. But mark my words, he will be here post 2012 even if he only plays 15 games. They love the bloke

Look, if he plays well enough to earn another contract or to stay beyond 2012 then great, power to him. But if he plays like crap AGAIN and we keep him.......the culture is still at the club, we accept mediocracy...

i don't think he has ever had a crap GAME, he has had the odd shanked kick but that does not amount to a crap game.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on January 06, 2012, 11:41:27 PM
Nah he has stunk it up a number of times. poo kicks, pathetic tackle attempts (has hardened up now i think  ;D) and getting beat by his opponent. Has played some good games as well though. Hopefully has a consistent year

man Edwards talk is boring
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on January 06, 2012, 11:57:50 PM
I was at this man's christening and it was more entertaining than this thread :sleep
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on January 06, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
You were not invited.

if he has a poor start to the season, then there will be no exc........

glad wrap
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 07, 2012, 12:58:25 AM
stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...

Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on January 07, 2012, 07:27:07 AM
Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate  :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on January 07, 2012, 09:01:19 AM
stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...

Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....

I know you cant see any good in shane at all, but in a top team his errors would be masked to a certain extent.

In some sense he is a luxury that a top team can afford and something we probably haven't been able to in recent years.

Actually, I dont think he makes any more errors than most other players, just that some of his errors are just so diabolical they stand out like a sore thumb.

whereas Dusty can get the ball in space and look good, yet kick it straight to the opposition and no-one seems to notice.
The end result is the same , though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 07, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate  :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs

Ok, really sorry Y&b.....NOT. If the how good Edwards pre season has been :sleep crap keeps coming up then I will comment.....like it or not....

Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on January 07, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.

Give him a run as a small forward.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 07, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.

Give him a run as a small forward.

No comment
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 07, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
:thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: The Big Richo on January 07, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.

Give him a run as a small forward.

No comment

No is negative.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 07, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
I prefer Edwards to Riewoldt.

Give him a run as a small forward.

No comment

No is negative.

No means no stud muffin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on January 08, 2012, 12:13:59 AM
I was at this man's christening and it was more entertaining than this thread :sleep
Well I was at his conception and that was pretty boring too. Gets his kicking ability from him Mum's side of the family.  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on January 08, 2012, 06:36:29 AM
Let it go WAT, we've worked out what you think - not that cryptic mate  :sleep
Let's wait until the season starts ffs

Ok, really sorry Y&b.....NOT. If the how good Edwards pre season has been :sleep crap keeps coming up then I will comment.....like it or not....

Actually ok then, I will wait for the season to start I will not post anything more negative about him...........there you go.
:thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 08, 2012, 10:50:25 PM
stuff me the way some of you carry on about him he should win the Brownlow..... :chuck

Stuff me the way you carry on about him he's the worst player ever...

Be one of the worst in our team, wouldn't be in the starting 22 in a top 8 team or probably any other team for that matter.....

I know you cant see any good in shane at all

Al, I know it appears that way mate but it's not really the case. I think its a case of he has a lot to offer but........now I can't be negative... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 27, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
'Tich' switch

By Paul Daffey
7:00 AM Fri 27 Jan, 2012

Richmond midfielder Shane Edwards has gained 7.5kg since last season

RICHMOND midfielder Shane Edwards has been known as 'Tich' for good reason. When he came over from North Adelaide he was so skinny he could fit down a drainpipe on the Punt Rd grandstand.
 
But now, after another summer of hard yakka in the gym and on the tooth, he's ready for a new nickname. Edwards has put on 7.5kg since last season, bringing his weight to 81.5kg.
 
Maybe he should be renamed 'Arnie' or 'Muscles', or just plain 'Eddo'.
 
"It's been easier to put on weight because I'm a bit older and my body's more mature," he said.
 
Edwards was drafted at No. 26 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft. He was just 66kg when the Tigers took him on.
 
Every pre-season since then, he's worked on putting on weight, but not too fast. The Tigers' fitness staff warned him that an explosion in kilograms would slow him down and put pressure on his groins.
 
Just last year, he was able to add only 3kg over summer. This year, by which time he was 23, his body was ready to take on extra bulk.
 
"This year I won't be behind the eight-ball like every other year," he said. "It will just help my footy in general."
 
When asked whether there was any secret behind his weight gain, Edwards said his gym program had been similar to that of previous years and once again he had watched his diet.
 
But when pressed he added that the excellent cooking of his housemate Dan Connors, the Tigers half-back, might have helped.  Connors, it seems, is a dab hand in the kitchen.
 
"He's a really good cook," Edwards said. "He's really smart with his nutrition."
 
One of the reasons put forward for Michael Tuck's longevity was that he was skinny and therefore had less weight to lug around. The former Hawk champ played 426 games, the AFL record, over a 20-season career.
 
If Edwards' past two seasons are an indication, he, too, is a slight footballer blessed with durability. He played every game in 2010.
 
In 2011 he played 20 games, missing two with a cheekbone injury after a centre-square collision in the opening five seconds of the match against the Western Bulldogs in round eight.
 
Edwards said the 2010 season has been his best because he was consistent. He was less happy with his form in 2011 - but there are a few weighty reasons why he might improve this season.
for richmondfc.com.au

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/128222/default.aspx

Good to see Edwards doing all he can to improve his game. The facial injury he sustained against the Dogs last year when he was put in the middle has obviously sent a sign that he needed more muscle on his frame.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on January 27, 2012, 12:21:36 PM
Hes still an apple turnover.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on January 27, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
one word, whoa, Now he's ready to join an already impressive midfield pack and really menace the oppisition, cant wait for that :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on January 27, 2012, 08:32:41 PM
lol just poor jounalism.
by my reckoning if edwards put on 7.5 kg he would now be pushing 86kg now that is funny. 7.5 kg sheesh where are the drug testers.
weighed 79 or 80kg in 2010 depending on where you get your stats from. so thats a whopping 2kg in 2 yrs.

not only that he weighed 71kg not 66kg when we took him.
while his size is an issue its his skills that are in question. why the club goes out of its way to defend players like him and put silly spin on things  is beyond me.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on January 27, 2012, 09:37:32 PM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 27, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...

Oh Dear  :nope
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
 :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle

I am sitting in the corner rocking back and forward sucking my thumb.......... :gotigers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne again on January 27, 2012, 11:05:03 PM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...

have not been back here for a while with a comment, but is my # 1 place to visit. I am going to back you here Wayne maybe not Brownlow but he has alot of potential,  he has a bit of the x factor. 2012 will be his year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on January 28, 2012, 01:35:54 AM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...

I'm still paying 600-1, just send me your fifty now, and I will put in a trust fund. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on January 28, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...

Oh Dear  :nope

 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on January 28, 2012, 09:18:55 AM
What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...

I'm still paying 600-1, just send me your fifty now, and I will put in a trust fund. ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 28, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
Actually just to get my football fix I watched some highlights of the Freo game (bloody youtube) where we thumped them the other night. Edwards was just forward of centre, he got the ball, spun around, weaved passed one and shot a 20 metre hadball over the top to a running Cotchin who then goaled from about 30 out on the run. Very impressive, best passage of play I think I have ever seen him do. Would love to see that more often actually!!!!

Yes thats right....credit where its due!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on January 29, 2012, 08:27:55 AM
he does things like that a bit, when he is in form anyway, WAT. he is very creative by hand. It's just than when he effs up by foot it looks soooo bad.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 04, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
Edwards interviewed in Perth

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/427191/default.aspx

He wants to increase his possession rate this year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 05, 2012, 05:10:58 AM
More an inside game last night from Titch - 12 contested possies out of a total of 16, 9 clearances and 10 tackles. Perhaps the extra work over preseason to add some more bulk is paying off.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on March 05, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
Thought he was OK last night. Quick and creative by hand in congestion. Has an ability to create space for other players.

Hopefully he can keep this up in the season proper
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on March 05, 2012, 10:09:44 AM
His critics will be a bit quieter today.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2012, 10:17:42 AM
I thought he played ok and showed a fair bit in and under.  His extraction work was very good and his delivery by hand was polished.  Still needs to get more of the ball but very good signs yesterday.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 05, 2012, 12:15:42 PM
Was very solid. Had a few ripper handballs
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 05, 2012, 06:18:18 PM
played 'ok'?... Really?
that was the best i've seen him play for ages. Was very creative in close and laid 10 tackles. If that was him playing 'ok' then his bad games must be diabolical!
pretty sure the Herald Sun rated him our best.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2012, 07:22:33 PM
played 'ok'?... Really?
that was the best i've seen him play for ages. Was very creative in close and laid 10 tackles. If that was him playing 'ok' then his bad games must be diabolical!
pretty sure the Herald Sun rated him our best.

Yep, only ok Willy.  To me he showed many good signs but he is a midfielder whose role appears to be extraction from traffic and in that role I would think he needs to get more than 16 disposals over 4 quarters to be rated good.  Yes, I agree it was his best effort for a while but imho he will still need to improve a fair bit to be considered one of our better footballers.  More pleasing was his tackle count of 9; that says to me he is reaping some benefit from the weight and strength work he is reported to have done over summer, and if that continues into the season then we can sit back and say he is well in our best 22 but we have had a few false dawns with Edwards already so that's why I didn't get overly excited about his game.  Happy with it - yes but not over the moon by any stretch.

As for the Hun rating him our best, he only scored 73 DT points and was not mentioned in the best at all in some media reports so I don't think I am alone in thinking only ok.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
he only scored 73 DT points and

and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey  :nope
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 05, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
His critics will be a bit quieter today.

 :whistle, only because I made a committment....one NAB game, Brownlow not in the bag yet.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 07:32:18 PM
Since when do you not like Shane Edwards? Jesus you flip flop  ::)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
he only scored 73 DT points and

and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey  :nope

Sorry Gerks, please accept my most humble apologies.   :bow

 ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
he only scored 73 DT points and

and don't embarrass yourself by ever doing that again smokey  :nope

Sorry Gerks, please accept my most humble apologies.   :bow

 ;D

apology accepted if you make this your avatar  ;D

(http://bit.ly/xPrI4K)

smokey indeed
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 05, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Since when do you not like Shane Edwards? Jesus you flip flop  ::)

 :help :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on March 05, 2012, 08:11:50 PM
Edwards was one of few highlights from our performance last night.
I hope he makes it because he brings others into the game. We don't have enough players who can do that
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 29, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
Ok round 1 .........stuffing useless, 1 good tackle, 1 good pass! This guy is stuffing pathetic..... I have waited all preseason, well he tore up the preseason track..... :scream

stuffing worse player in the team!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 29, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
Whatd we make o jacksons game

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 29, 2012, 11:46:21 PM
Whatd we make o jacksons game

*toilet flushes*
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 30, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
Edwards was not the problem
Foley tuck Jackson.nahas vickery and miller all did sweet fa
Foley tuck and Jackson should never play again.... Bad disposal bad decision makers they are poo
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2012, 12:56:33 AM
Foley was much better than you think.

Jackson and Edwards are the whipping boys.

Edwards is this. When the game is hot and in dispute he is fumbly, indecisive with poor disposal and critically turns the ball over. A classic example set shot from 40 in the first quarter misses. If we were 8 goals up against Freo at the G 28 mins into the last quarter he kicks it and those Edwards admirers say but he has great skills and composure. For them I say take a look at the first and third quarters of our game against Collingwood last year and let the prosecution finally rest please. :help
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on March 30, 2012, 01:45:19 AM
Foley our problem?? Gee I've heard it all now

The margin would've been 100 if weren't for him and Cotch

Get your glasses of X. Bottom tier of Edwards, Jackson, Tuck, Post etc are our problem

They are collectively as good as my white ass after a bout of diarrhea.



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:49:08 AM
Foley our problem?? Gee I've heard it all now

The margin would've been 100 if weren't for him and Cotch

Get your glasses of X. Bottom tier of Edwards, Jackson, Tuck, Post etc are our problem

They are collectively as good as my white ass after a bout of diarrhea.

Bottom tier is shortening each year.

3 years ago Jackson was one of our more important players, the list is improving talent wise, slowly.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on March 30, 2012, 06:27:24 AM
Whatd we make o jacksons game

Crap.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 30, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
Foley was much better than you think.

Jackson and Edwards are the whipping boys.

Edwards is this. When the game is hot and in dispute he is fumbly, indecisive with poor disposal and critically turns the ball over. A classic example set shot from 40 in the first quarter misses. If we were 8 goals up against Freo at the G 28 mins into the last quarter he kicks it and those Edwards admirers say but he has great skills and composure. For them I say take a look at the first and third quarters of our game against Collingwood last year and let the prosecution finally rest please. :help

Thank God someone else see's this, he was a disgrace last night, he bad very far outweighs his.......well he doesn't have a best.

Bag Jackson yes, but gee have a real good look people at this guy too. He will not be part of a GF team at this club.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2012, 08:46:30 AM
Did Edwards play?  ;D

Noticed him about half a dozen times for the entire game.

He was poor like so many others

We continue to rely on too few needing to do too much

But like Jackson, Edwards wasn't the worst as that had to be Post & Vickery

And as I said that is an indictment on last nights game
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Stripes on March 30, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Really there were very few standouts last night. The ball was hard fought and contested almost the whole game so few players could be sighted. There were a few acts of individual brilliance Yarran's :clapping and Jack's :clapping goals but most players were swallowed up in the packs.

I can't remember seeing Edwards do much and Jackson did a few ordinary kicks. Miller started with a bang but our forwards weren't really given a chance because of midfielders couldn't get any space  close to the 50 to deliver it to them. It was mostly all long bombs from out the back of a pack. This gave the defenders more than a=enough time to spoil and congest the forward arc. Vickery was anyother who suffered from this.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on March 30, 2012, 10:59:40 AM
Vicks had a stinker. He had numerous oopporutnities to impose himself but just couldn't clunk em. Needs to lift.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on March 30, 2012, 11:15:58 AM
cant keep carrying edwards and Jackson as part of the midfield rotations, they are super bad.

Who can replace them? Conca and Batchelor straight in. Who else? Helbig needs to come on, hopefully Arnott builds up his tank and can start getting some games as a sub. We need more foot soldiers!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on May 07, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3C5FuamH6Y&feature=g-vrec
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
After watching that I now believe he's a great player. ;D


Wonder if General Donut will make a highlight package of all his howlers.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 07, 2012, 10:21:45 PM
OMFG Edwards management team have worked overtime on that one :lol they must be hoping to add a few extra zero's to his new contract for next season ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 07, 2012, 10:25:08 PM
Liked him as the sub. Looks good in green and had a bit more impact than Greg.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2012, 10:26:15 PM
I want to see Greg get one last crack at it. Not as sub. Give him 4 quarters.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ekto on May 07, 2012, 10:56:22 PM
I want to see Greg get one last crack at it. Not as sub. Give him 4 quarters.
I hope he gets "one last crack" too Coach.....but when he does it will last a lot longer than the end of this season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 01:20:52 AM
Righto Shano, time to make me get on the big rolling turd of appreciation for you, it's steaming at the moment.... :whistle

Show me what you are capable of......NIKE.....JUST DO IT!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:22:28 AM
Didn't you watch the Sydney game?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 01:23:24 AM
Didn't you watch the Sydney game?

Just stop it...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
Is that a yes or a no?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
 :bow
Is that a yes or a no?

Well....um....I don't care, I want to see it live....and for over more than 20 minutes a games, week in week out.

I am laying down the gauntlet to him, lets see it Shane.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:30:36 AM
Answer the stuffing question
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:34:37 AM
Unbelievable
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 18, 2012, 01:37:56 AM
aww gee
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 01:51:15 AM
 
aww gee

X2.... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:52:40 AM
If you'd watched you'd know you're not going to get much more than a role player  :lol

But throw down your gauntlet barnacle bill  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 01:54:40 AM
If you'd watched you'd know you're not going to get much more than a role player  :lol

But throw down your gauntlet barnacle bill  :lol

 :lol, it's down and to ease your pain, no i didn't watch it, bloody Perth crap TV... :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 01:56:05 AM
NO EXCUSES
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 18, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
We all need to get some sleep. especially me
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 07:37:29 AM
God, just got to the hotel......who wants a beer.... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 18, 2012, 09:41:18 AM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: HD on May 18, 2012, 04:21:02 PM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)

I wouldn't go as far as a "very good game", he was serviceable (20 disposals, 4 marks, 1 tackle). Dea and Batchelor had 14 disposals, 3 marks and a couple of tackles a piece, not far short of Edwards but I don't think anyone would say they had a good game. Same as Edwards, they were serviceable IMO.

A very good game, again IMO, constitutes something like Maric who had 17 disposals, 4 marks, 28 hitouts, 3 tackles and a goal.

Source: http://finalsiren.com/MatchDetails.asp?GameID=5891&Code=062b9a38e4ffcfa26fb986c237122aba
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 04:29:57 PM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)

Continues to torment alright......one "serviceable" game, gee look out....love it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 18, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment  :lol

By the sounds of it neither did others, but I did listen to it.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 18, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment  :lol

Turkey Sammich.

Hey WAT, how come yo no watch dem matches yo JIIIIIIIIVE Turkey?

In all seriousness though, Edwards was very very good against Skidney.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 18, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 18, 2012, 06:29:06 PM
he had a hand im many goals for us , had a dam good game v sydney and that look away handpass was orgasmic!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 18, 2012, 06:31:08 PM
he had a hand im many goals for us , had a dam good game v sydney and that look away handpass was orgasmic!

 :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 06:39:32 PM
you dont even watch the games you ham sandwich, you cant make any comment  :lol

Turkey Sammich.

Hey WAT, how come yo no watch dem matches yo JIIIIIIIIVE Turkey?

In all seriousness though, Edwards was very very good against Skidney.
:lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 18, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
I'll play the mediator in this thread, and say that let's all reserve judgement on Edwards until during or after the Saturday nights game.

LET THE CARDS FALL WHERE THEY MAY
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
I'll play the mediator in this thread, and say that let's all reserve judgement on Edwards until during or after the Saturday nights game.

LET THE CARDS FALL WHERE THEY MAY

Cmon, even I reserved judgement, two bloody years ago I and many more "reserved judgement" but ok I will do it for a 3rd year in a row.

FFS I even kept my mouth shut about him leading into the season proper and then he completely let the club down....

Here we go again.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on May 18, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
and then he completely let the club down....

He what?

Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 18, 2012, 08:07:47 PM
and then he completely let the club down....

He what?

Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!

Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
and then he completely let the club down....

He what?

Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!



Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on May 18, 2012, 09:03:18 PM
WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page  :shh

 :outtahere ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 09:07:16 PM
WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page  :shh

 :outtahere ;D
:lol

Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 18, 2012, 09:09:14 PM
and then he completely let the club down....

He what?

Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!



Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...

Yes it does. But things would appear to be coming to a head now, so I think it's only
reasonable to proceed on a ' reasonable' basis
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
and then he completely let the club down....

He what?

Edwards is slowly getting his confidence back to use his pace too. Once he re-introduces this into his game watch out!



Takes more than one game, don't be silly, but if he puts in a "very good" game I will back off. But if he stuffs up, it's all over.
Ok honestly let's agree to reserve judgement. Let this, this upcoming game of utmost importance be the context...

Yes it does. But things would appear to be coming to a head now, so I think it's only
reasonable to proceed on a ' reasonable' basis

One game no, after the dreamtime, performance based, yes.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on May 18, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page  :shh

 :outtahere ;D
:lol

Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.

Fair enough, me too  :thumbsup  ;D

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 18, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
WAT has this thread as his internet browser's home page  :shh

 :outtahere ;D
:lol

Dwaino, honestly though mate, I have been waiting and waiting for this guy to make it and would love to see it, especially tomorrow night, when I am there.

Fair enough, me too  :thumbsup  ;D
:thumbsup.....go Shane!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 18, 2012, 11:14:05 PM
hey wat pngq shaka man?  imagine edwards gets bog tom nite lol , could u handle that hahahaha
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 19, 2012, 12:29:25 AM
 :shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 19, 2012, 01:18:44 AM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.


Bump.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 19, 2012, 01:26:00 AM
:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.

Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 19, 2012, 01:27:52 AM
:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.

Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts

No idea tony. Don't you rate those 12 possie games?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 19, 2012, 01:29:10 AM
:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.

Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts

Posted this in another thread.

You want to know why Titch gets a game?

He does do what the coach asks of him every week, follows the game plan and works his frikin behind off for his team mates.

His work off the ball is what a lot here don't see. The unglamorous stuff that any coach loves in footballers.
Covering for players, standing in gaps, pressurising the opposition, working the corridor up and down..
He has an excellent tank and busts his behind defensively all game when guys like Martin, Maric & Riewoldt are sucking for air at the end of a match.

Another of Shane's strengths is that he takes risks. This can look bad if it goes wrong which many focus on but equally it can look fantastic when it comes off.
His hands are elite. Unlike someone like Jackson, Edwards has a VERY good footy nous and regularly sets up play which results in attacking passages of footy for the Tiges. When Cotchin kicks that goal, the guy who gave it off is often Shane.

Sure he has weaknesses. His footskills do let him down too often and he's not winning enough of the pill but he is nowhere near as bad a player as he's portrayed as by some on here otherwise he'd have been delisted as one of the 30 odd players who've departed in the last couple of years.

He may be upgraded in time but for now he is in our best 22 and still may improve yet.
Dimma's a fan and he's popular with his team mates.
Hope he has a great season culminating in playing finals.

Some of us actually do appreciate him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 19, 2012, 01:34:09 AM
:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.

Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts

No idea tony. Don't you rate those 12 possie games?

Nah I'm hard to please, I rate the 17-18 possie games
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 19, 2012, 01:49:49 AM
:shh Some deluded folks in this thread. Take the dark blinkers off and enjoy the good stuff. There's plenty.

Speaking of deluded, please expand on what makes Shane such a fine player, I'd love to hear your thoughts

Posted this in another thread.

You want to know why Titch gets a game?

He does do what the coach asks of him every week, follows the game plan and works his frikin behind off for his team mates.

His work off the ball is what a lot here don't see. The unglamorous stuff that any coach loves in footballers.
Covering for players, standing in gaps, pressurising the opposition, working the corridor up and down..
He has an excellent tank and busts his behind defensively all game when guys like Martin, Maric & Riewoldt are sucking for air at the end of a match.

Another of Shane's strengths is that he takes risks. This can look bad if it goes wrong which many focus on but equally it can look fantastic when it comes off.
His hands are elite. Unlike someone like Jackson, Edwards has a VERY good footy nous and regularly sets up play which results in attacking passages of footy for the Tiges. When Cotchin kicks that goal, the guy who gave it off is often Shane.

Sure he has weaknesses. His footskills do let him down too often and he's not winning enough of the pill but he is nowhere near as bad a player as he's portrayed as by some on here otherwise he'd have been delisted as one of the 30 odd players who've departed in the last couple of years.

He may be upgraded in time but for now he is in our best 22 and still may improve yet.
Dimma's a fan and he's popular with his team mates.
Hope he has a great season culminating in playing finals.

Some of us actually do appreciate him.

Hes average, by 70/80 games in a career, you should be showing something.

Weaknesses have  outweighed his strengths as a player to date....  unreliable kick, unreliable decision maker, doesn't get it enough for the tank he possesses, and is not strong enough physically to exploit his biggest strength - his awareness and vision in close.  I was a fan when we first drafted him as I'm a fan of gut runners, unfortunately sometimes players don't come on ala tambling, I gave up on Edwards finally last year early in the season against the pies when in the space of 5 mins he had 3 shots on goal for a grand return of 1 behind..

gg
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 19, 2012, 11:51:54 AM
hey wat pngq shaka man?  imagine edwards gets bog tom nite lol , could u handle that hahahaha

Haha, I will be very happy if he contributes to a win. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
What did we all think of Titch's game today? 16 possies for 3 goals, 2 assists in goals, 5 inside 50s and 5 tackles. One positive on a dark day?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ekto on June 09, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
Shane is earning his spot and getting plenty of cheers in the Ekto household.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Siberian on June 09, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
Better than average far from our worst for a change
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Has had a good month Titch. :thumbsup
My only fault on him today was in the first when he snapped with the outside of his right foot from 20 metres and the ball fell in the square rather than use his left foot and drill it.

Evading the Freo players with a blind turn on the members half forward flank in the last and finding Tuck who kicked the goal was great stuff.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 09, 2012, 11:39:37 PM
Shane is earning his spot and getting plenty of cheers in the Ekto household.

 :clapping

We are quite pleased with the SHED, has done a good job so far. Is playing with more confidence and is taking risks.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 09, 2012, 11:40:55 PM
Was our cleanest player in the conditions today, is creative and shows flair! Can't fault his game at all today.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Damo on June 10, 2012, 12:24:10 AM
This thread went very quite over the last month.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.


Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 10, 2012, 12:36:43 AM
po claw
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 10, 2012, 07:09:45 AM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.


Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.

And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players  :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on June 10, 2012, 07:50:22 AM
Can't fault him again

We asked for consistency now we are getting it

Given a choice between Nahas and Edwards I know who I'd rather now

Nahas and Maric can go to Coburg and stay there

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on June 10, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
Thought he was one of our better players today and probably our cleanest player skill-wise.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on June 10, 2012, 08:18:09 AM
Yep, was very clean where everyone else was fumbling
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on June 10, 2012, 09:13:37 AM
Titch has always had good skills with evasion, and swooping on loose ball even intercepting marks.  Now he is using it really well and busting through when he does get into the clinches.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 10, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
Well done 'Shed' :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on June 10, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
clean with his hands yesterday
and came to play unlike some players.

gets a bad rap sometimes.

 :sleep
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: eliminator on June 11, 2012, 06:54:31 AM
3 goals and set up Tuck's goal in 4th quarter. Played a very good game. One of the few who looked dangerous when had the ball
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2012, 09:46:17 AM
Yep, probably one of the best next to Cotch and Morris....4 good games in a row, might actually ake it provided he is left in the forward line.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 11, 2012, 12:59:11 PM
Can't fault him again

We asked for consistency now we are getting it

Given a choice between Nahas and Edwards I know who I'd rather now

Nahas and Maric can go to Coburg and stay there
I agree Daniel.
What I've liked most about him this year is that he's added a bit of mongrel into his game.  :thumbsup
nanas has done well for himself has had some great games for us & is small and tiny enough to get many high head tackles that help him impact games. Players like him rarely have any impact come finals.
Mini maric will be known for his one great tackle to help win the game against the saints. He may well be another one hit wonder.....and he's a Melbourne fc reject... Enough said.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 11, 2012, 01:07:49 PM
nahas is overated
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 11, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
Yep, probably one of the best next to Cotch and Morris....4 good games in a row, might actually ake it provided he is left in the forward line.

cotchs first half was out right pathetic and disgusting, many of his poor decisions and disposal cost us badly in the first half
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on June 11, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
I've always been a fan of Edwards in the forward line.

I remember a game of his against Brisbane at the Gabba and kicked 2 'goal of the year' type goals. He has good goal sense, good fwd pressure, has as a great leap and decent hands and is good from a set shot.

I really like Edwards up forward.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: blaisee on June 11, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
never been a fan personally, but he is in the best form of his career

gifted 70 of hid 100 games so far, so its about time
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on June 11, 2012, 08:02:41 PM
never been a fan personally, but he is in the best form of his career

gifted 70 of hid 100 games so far, so its about time

incorrect.

he played about 8 blinders toward the end of 2010 then disappeared for 2011

lets hope he stays in the F50, as that seems to be where he can do the most damage and also reduce the damage he causes with his eratic disposal

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 11, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
Having a beakout year, spells d a n g e r when he swoops on a loose ball in the forward line...too often he' s the only one looking likely :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 11, 2012, 08:12:59 PM
Having a beakout year, spells d a n g e r when he swoops on a loose ball in the forward line...too often he' s the only one looking likely :huh

Having a good last month BJ is not a breakout year.

Yes his performances since Dreamtime have been heartening but needs to raise his game higher and that's not being critical.

We'll revisit the term "breakout year" and who it applies to on our list after the Carlton game.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on June 12, 2012, 05:37:52 PM
Titch has kicked 10 goals in his last 4 games playing the mid-size forward role ....

Shane shines
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 12 Jun, 2012


Shane Edwards has reinvented himself as a dangerous, medium-sized forward in his sixth season of AFL football.

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/138385/default.aspx
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Stripes on June 13, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
Been very good of late. He has obviously picked up his defensive forward pressure too or Dimma wouldn't have him playing forward. With Jack and Vickery down on form we need as many avenues to goal as possible
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 15, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
His critics are quiet.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 15, 2012, 11:01:46 AM
I'll admit that I wanted him delisted at the end of last season.

How wrong was I.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 15, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
Could be up to 12 Brownlow votes after this weekend   :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Muscles on June 15, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks.  I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on June 15, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
Could be up to 12 Brownlow votes after this weekend   :shh

Way ahead of you

What's Edwards paying for the Brownlow?

I just got a feeling about him...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on June 15, 2012, 07:40:51 PM
I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks.  I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.

Total under-representation. Compare his stats last 4 weeks against any other small forward in the comp, he is out ranking them all.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 15, 2012, 08:06:03 PM
I'll put my hand up and say that he has shanked fewer kicks and created fewer critical turnovers than normal in the past few weeks.  I just hope that he hasn't been saving them up for tomorrow.

Total under-representation. Compare his stats last 4 weeks against any other small forward in the comp, he is out ranking them all.

Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on June 15, 2012, 08:47:14 PM
Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head

It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on June 15, 2012, 08:49:38 PM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.


Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.

And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players  :wallywink
good for you keep on backing them in.
i dont see why others get antsy when a player like edwards is not rated. for a small hes taken an inordinate amount of time and 4 games yes at least i do acknowledge when he goes alright does not forgive his previous 5  or 6 yrs.

please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.  in what other walk of life are people so tolerant. even after having their heads kicked in repeatedly on numerous occasions by player like edwards who give a little block of good games only to revert back to his level yet as soon as a godd game or two happens out come the supporters proclaiming him all over again.
mate im not the silly one.to win me over he will have to break the chain and actually become a good consistent player.

he is atm the best small forward we have but the real question is will he sustain it for ant decent period of time. to date thats not happened.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 15, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
Synopsis please. K thnx
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on June 15, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head

It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.

:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 15, 2012, 11:30:11 PM
Is your avatar a photo of spud frawley after a facelift, it sure looks liKe the pecker head

It's an avatar of what I think 'Username' looks like.

na he is better looking than me lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 15, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.


Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.

A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.

I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on June 16, 2012, 12:23:37 AM
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.


Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.

A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.

I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.

So how's Tucky going in your view magic?  :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 16, 2012, 01:28:08 AM
So how's Tucky going in your view magic?  :whistle

Same old Tucky with same old strengths and flaws.
Better support cast these days.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on June 16, 2012, 01:45:24 AM
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.


Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.

A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.

I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.

So how's Tucky going in your view magic?  :whistle

No matter how well Edwards is going, Tuck is still 5 times the player.

;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 16, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.


Take the blinkers off. He was a shining light in 2010.

A blip last year due to an interrupted pre season but has been on an upward trend now for a while.

I guess you will always see what you want to see but he's a valuable player in our lineup and Hardwick & his team mates know it even if you don't yet.

So how's Tucky going in your view magic?  :whistle

No matter how well Edwards is going, Tuck is still 5 times the player.

;D

No arguments there!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on June 16, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
Edwards had a very good game against Sydney.
Continues to torment the haters. Love it. 8)
you are easily pleased if thats a very good game. thats about the minimum you want from him but we all know its about his best.

says more about where we are at when we cant replace him for lack of mids on the list.


Bump.
you think a decent 4 week period in 6 yrs has me wetting myself with joy.
have acknowledged hes had a good 4 weeks but still dont rate him.
will continue to acknowledge his good games but my experience has taught me leopards dont change their spots. i hope he proves me wrong but i wont hold my breath hoping.

And we won't hold our breath hearing your judgement on our players  :wallywink
good for you keep on backing them in.
i dont see why others get antsy when a player like edwards is not rated. for a small hes taken an inordinate amount of time and 4 games yes at least i do acknowledge when he goes alright does not forgive his previous 5  or 6 yrs.

please forgive me if i reserve judgement as i can honestly say ive seen it all before with this bloke.

in many way i think im the normal one.  in what other walk of life are people so tolerant. even after having their heads kicked in repeatedly on numerous occasions by player like edwards who give a little block of good games only to revert back to his level yet as soon as a godd game or two happens out come the supporters proclaiming him all over again.
mate im not the silly one.to win me over he will have to break the chain and actually become a good consistent player.

he is atm the best small forward we have but the real question is will he sustain it for ant decent period of time. to date thats not happened.

We all want a team of Judds and Abletts, but the reality is its impossible..  If you take off your self righteous glasses off and see that players not of the calibre AFL legend do actually play the game and win premierships.. 

As you may not be aware there is a salary cap in place in the AFL and so therefore that means the club has to balance paying eleite players with players that arent and still have the ability to field a team that can win...  Yes it means that not all players will be elite no team can afford to pay them..  Yes when you dont have many elite players it means some players will be payed more than they're worth.  And yes it does mean players like Shane Edwards will get games..  As long as he's improving, as i think he is, and contributing to the team and a team player he has his place in the team..

Shane is a solid contributor, follows team rules and does the job he is asked,,  hence he is in the team..  Better to have a team player that lacks in a couple of areas then to have a champ that only looks after himself..

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 16, 2012, 09:27:59 AM
Gone past gibbs yet?  8)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 16, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Ok.........yes he has played 4 good games, yes perhaps they have found his true position in the team because he can't really turn the ball over where he is. But in one on ones he is still hopeless. Watch the contest against his opposition player in the forward pocket from last week.....rag doll....

But credit were it is due, he is playing well at the moment in the position he is in!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on June 16, 2012, 11:10:06 AM
Ok.........yes he has played 4 good games, yes perhaps they have found his true position in the team because he can't really turn the ball over where he is. But in one on ones he is still unless. Watch the contest against his opposition player in the forward pocket from last week.....rag doll....

But credit were it is due, he is playing well at the moment in the position he is in!

Anymore rag dolled than Nahas gets?

 he's a small player and most small players get rag dolled..  Remember Gary Wilson, Robbie Flower and even our own KB. When they were grabbed they were rag dolled.. Shane has evasion skills and much better evasion skills than our other small forwards i might add..  Finding an instance of something on the replay can be done with any player. 

Some really pick the poo of players..  Yes i'm a glass half full..  Although i have called some players to be culled over the years
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 16, 2012, 07:34:25 PM
Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 16, 2012, 07:36:45 PM
What's the go with his knee(???)?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 16, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
Did he come back on after that injury?

Hope he doesn't cop anything for the umpire thing.

Tony Shaw mentioned it like 4 times. Idiot.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 16, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
He never came back on from what I saw. Re: the ump thing, the Fox team reckon he'll just get a phone call during the week  :pray
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 16, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
He never came back on from what I saw. Re: the ump thing, the Fox team reckon he'll just get a phone call during the week  :pray

You mean Shaw reckons. lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on June 16, 2012, 08:03:06 PM
Dunno lol. Game was giving me the poos so I chucked on the new Garbage album and only heard snippets of commentary  :laugh:
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on June 16, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
did see edwards back on late in the game
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on June 16, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.

If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.

Tucky :bow
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 17, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.

If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.

Tucky :bow

Tuck also played well.
Our best player yesterday in conditions that suit his game to a tee.
However this is the Edwards thread.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Yet another excellent game. Our form small forward.

If his game was excellent then Tucky played the greatest game in history.

Tucky :bow

Tuck also played well.
Our best player yesterday in conditions that suit his game to a tee.
However this is the Edwards thread.

Yes it is......isn't every thread for you an Edwards one.....:)....

Played well but again.....rag dolled more than any player....even Nahas...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 17, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
I'm not sure what the point is WAT?
He gets rag dolled like Ivan Maric gets out run by opposition mid fielders or Nathan Foley gets out marked by opposition kpp's in one on ones
What he is doing is making a big difference to our forward line, btw anyone see the goal he set up for Tuck last week?
You can't teach that, therefore it is worth panels in helping to generate scores when playing against good defensive teams.
Very important in finals football.
What is perfectly valid is that he has done is for 4 weeks as consistency is the biggest issue or him and most of the team.
Fix that and he becomes very important, can see 22 games at the current level delivering a 50 goal season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2012, 12:09:59 PM
I'm not sure what the point is WAT?
He gets rag dolled like Ivan Maric gets out run by opposition mid fielders or Nathan Foley gets out marked by opposition kpp's in one on ones
What he is doing is making a big difference to our forward line, btw anyone see the goal he set up for Tuck last week?
You can't teach that, therefore it is worth panels in helping to generate scores when playing against good defensive teams.
Very important in finals football.
What is perfectly valid is that he has done is for 4 weeks as consistency is the biggest issue or him and most of the team.
Fix that and he becomes very important, can see 22 games at the current level delivering a 50 goal season.

Well don't take his game in to account from yesterday too much.......apparently it was only GWS....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on June 17, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
Played well but again.....

His form really is making you look foolish isn't it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: MikeetIGER on June 17, 2012, 08:09:47 PM
Played well but again.....

His form really is making you look foolish isn't it.

Totally foolish,  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 17, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
edwards is kicking arse at the moment i hope his knee is ok as he did get injured
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on June 18, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
Continually improving his play and trade value ....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: eliminator on June 18, 2012, 06:52:42 AM
Wish he kicked straight but again is showing good goal sense
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on June 18, 2012, 08:14:49 AM
Continually improving his play and trade value ....

Dont think he'll be traded darth, likely to be our second highest goalkicker this year...and has become our most dangerous small forward...trades are generally for those surplus to our needs ::)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2012, 12:48:21 PM
So folks....what do we think of:

Shanes year to date?
Should/could he be traded (regardless of his re-signing)
Will he be a big part of the team next year if he stays?

Any other comments??

I think he really hit a purple patch for about 4 weeks this year and has since died off again, that is his major problem IMO, he just can't string it together. I did notice when I watched him against the Lions that he is quick with his hands ( ;D) and does have some talent. But his slight frame is his hinderance, he was very easily bumped off the ball or simply out muscled by Lions players.

I have alway said I wouold love to see him make it but at this point in time, after many years I think we need to bite the bullet if a trade is offered.

Sorry MM, but we can't keep him for another year IMO.

I also think that Hardwick loves him too much so he will stay!! :-\..........could see the one nail in the Hardwick coffin next year if he hangs on to players like this..I am not calling for Hardwicks head BTW!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
Edwards is still improving and to remind you has just signed a new deal. Not going anywhere WAT/PNGQ. 8)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
Edwards is still improving and to remind you has just signed a new deal. Not going anywhere WAT/PNGQ. 8)

I don't think he is based on the last 5 years...

New deal or not he is still tradable (another club would just pick his contract up....ala Holland!!).....and I did say Hardwick loves him.......did you read my post MM... :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 11, 2012, 02:53:26 PM
Im not a fan tbh. Since he went fwd, hes probably close to career best form, but this is his second good patch in 6 yrs? Problem is this rich vein of form for him has him in our bottom 6 in our 22 tbh, I dont think he's anywhere near our top 15. He's the type of player that could quite easily be upgraded with a pick at the near the end of the draft. Got to ask, do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2012, 03:30:55 PM
Im not a fan tbh. Since he went fwd, hes probably close to career best form, but this is his second good patch in 6 yrs? Problem is this rich vein of form for him has him in our bottom 6 in our 22 tbh, I dont think he's anywhere near our top 15. He's the type of player that could quite easily be upgraded with a pick at the near the end of the draft. Got to ask, do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no

Would have to agree, in particular your last comment..."do we lose anything as a team if he doesnt play? I honestly think no"
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 11, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
So folks....what do we think of:

Shanes year to date?
Should/could he be traded (regardless of his re-signing)
Will he be a big part of the team next year if he stays?

Any other comments??

I think he really hit a purple patch for about 4 weeks this year and has since died off again, that is his major problem IMO, he just can't string it together. I did notice when I watched him against the Lions that he is quick with his hands ( ;D) and does have some talent. But his slight frame is his hinderance, he was very easily bumped off the ball or simply out muscled by Lions players.

I have alway said I wouold love to see him make it but at this point in time, after many years I think we need to bite the bullet if a trade is offered.

Sorry MM, but we can't keep him for another year IMO.

I also think that Hardwick loves him too much so he will stay!! :-\..........could see the one nail in the Hardwick coffin next year if he hangs on to players like this..I am not calling for Hardwicks head BTW!!!!!

downhill skier

will beat his man comfortably tomorrow but hey its Buldogs and he along with the other spuds will be jumping up and down like superstars

6 good games at the end of the 2010
7 good games in season 2012, including tomorrow and Port

90 spud infected games.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 04:41:09 PM
Trade bait.
He would be perfect for a team topping up for a flag.

On a HFF or forward pocket getting his two goals a game and 15 touches in a really good side where his mistakes or momentum kills don't stick out as much he'll be perfect.

This will only confirm also that some on here would lament how good he is and why we should have perservered beyond the 6 seasons we have.

HFF forward line is his best position. Not a midfielder not anything else.

Trade him now while he has value.

Gold Coast could use him and we could us Caddy. Let the clubs then mull over what picks change hands.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 05:38:24 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 11, 2012, 05:42:41 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL

???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 06:07:05 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL

???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers

IMHO TFS I don't think so but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is fine. :thumbsup

I just feel that I have seen enough of Titch and he hasn't come on the way I would have liked him too. He had that patch mid season where he looked good but for me he isn't consistent enough goes missing in games for periods and does not impact the game the way he should the way a B Grader in a side should which IMHO is they way that some on here are spruiking him but again that is opinion from both parties.

I feel there is not much more upside to Titch and possibly having played some better footy earlier in the year maybe now after 6 seasons on the list may be the time to get him on the trade table and try and upgrade on Titch. Whether he is in the side or not he makes no overall difference to the end result of our side against the middle and lower ranked sides and if we can make an upgrade on that whether its a like for like player or a trade for a mid or a ruckman or a KPP or even a draft pick.

Just my take on things boys. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 11, 2012, 07:20:24 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
:ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL

???? What's the problem Tucker :huh Gerks is 100% on the money :cheers

IMHO TFS I don't think so but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is fine. :thumbsup

I just feel that I have seen enough of Titch and he hasn't come on the way I would have liked him too. He had that patch mid season where he looked good but for me he isn't consistent enough goes missing in games for periods and does not impact the game the way he should the way a B Grader in a side should which IMHO is they way that some on here are spruiking him but again that is opinion from both parties.

I feel there is not much more upside to Titch and possibly having played some better footy earlier in the year maybe now after 6 seasons on the list may be the time to get him on the trade table and try and upgrade on Titch. Whether he is in the side or not he makes no overall difference to the end result of our side against the middle and lower ranked sides and if we can make an upgrade on that whether its a like for like player or a trade for a mid or a ruckman or a KPP or even a draft pick.

Just my take on things boys. :thumbsup

Well your wrong. But that's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it  ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 09:16:25 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.

Good post. Edwards critics will end up looking dumber than than already do.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 11, 2012, 09:18:03 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.

Good post. Edwards critics will end up looking dumber than than already do.

yeah 6 years later and 180 spud filled games later. hahahaha  keep telling yourself that pal.

I bet you were one that kept saying Tambling would come good too

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 09:48:37 PM
Plays every game, rarely misses a target, such a creative type, lucky to have him on the list. Well done FJ  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 11, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
why is edwards still copping poo, has improved every yr and is a fine player, very underrated, better than nahas and king combined
 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 10:15:14 PM
6 yrs on the list.

Definentely not an A Grader or a B Grader.

So what do people think he is.

I think he is a C grader.

You can improve slightly each year but he is still a C Grader.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 11, 2012, 10:30:06 PM
Good player. Super durable. Will finish top ten in the b&f again. I'd be looking to upgrade his contract.
sheesh top 10 top 5 what does it mean.
over the yrs ive seen a train load of very ordinary rfc players finish top 10 in the b&f.

edwards now lets see.
start of the yr i was calling for his head.  his first 5 or 8 games were ordinary. thnk it was the sydney game he had a reasonable game playing mainly midfield. following week they moved him forward and imo hes been pretty decent ever since.
hes been very good in two or three games  in that time, and has not imo dropped below standard apart from maybe the gc game.
atm he is the small forward and should be the only one.

to me his big challenge is now to finally produce consistent up to standard footy, not just a block of 6 or in this case 10 11 games, but  injuries permitting consistent seasons on end.
the bar is set and while all players have the odd howler, we should not be accepting consistent performances that are below standard.
this is my concern with him will he slip back to what may be his natural level.  next yr will tell us all.
with close to 100 games and not far off 24yrs of age he should be a leader at the club. should be  setting an example with good consistent performances. he needs to prove hes at least a good consistent player at the level. sad tht we are still saying that after 6 yrs and so many games.

would have cut him at the start of the yr hes earnt a reprieve for another season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.

Good for them Gerks.

Still a C Grader. So many can see it!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.

Good for them Gerks.

Still a C Grader. So many can see it!

You're dreaming.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
Definitely a B Grader is Sheddy. So many can see it.

Good for them Gerks.

Still a C Grader. So many can see it!

You're dreaming.

No MM.

I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 11:06:24 PM
Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:10:21 PM
Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?

Nope did you Gerks or anybody else?

I'm not saying he has played badly I did mention he had a purple patch mid year but he is just a C grader. He has show some improvement but given he has played regular footy in the last 6 seasons he should have shown more. Hence I rate him a C grader and a member of the side that given where we will be in the next few years can easily be upgraded on. Simple.
Some here say he's a mid 15-18 possies in the mid is hardly enough. I'd like to know how many times in his career he has broken the 20 posession barrier. :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 11, 2012, 11:15:08 PM
 Not sure if gg on the wind up or if he's back on the bandwagon he started 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 11:22:37 PM
The bandwagon is crank driven, needs a wind up every now and then  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 11, 2012, 11:26:06 PM
Good place to wind it up
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 11:26:22 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 11:28:45 PM
Easily in the top two indigenous players at the club
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:29:22 PM
Easily in the top two indigenous players at the club

Le ha ha.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 11, 2012, 11:31:13 PM
Did you gouge your eyes out when we lost to Carlton in Round 1?

Nope did you Gerks or anybody else?

I'm not saying he has played badly I did mention he had a purple patch mid year but he is just a C grader. He has show some improvement but given he has played regular footy in the last 6 seasons he should have shown more. Hence I rate him a C grader and a member of the side that given where we will be in the next few years can easily be upgraded on. Simple.
Some here say he's a mid 15-18 possies in the mid is hardly enough. I'd like to know how many times in his career he has broken the 20 posession barrier. :shh
agree have been saying exactly that for yrs.
6 yrs in and we are debating his worth weather hes below standard or just a passable afl player. at 24 and 100 games he should be well and truly established for his type.

if i had to rate his first 6 yrs i  would have to give him a b/s below standard rating. like a lot of b/s players they have at times played some good footy.
im especially harsh on smalls they need to bring something to the table to make up for the lack of size. 
they need to be clean one touch players or they get crunched or turn it over under extreme physical pressure. they have to be excellent kicks and decision makers and generally have good to excellent pace.
so few of our smalls meet these basic criteria hence they are inconsistent for yrs on end  and look very much like battlers half the time.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 11, 2012, 11:32:45 PM
There's quite a bit of b/s in this thread
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on August 11, 2012, 11:33:17 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
he should be well and truly established for his type.

He is well and truly established.

I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?

I'm actually sober. Reckon plenty of others are knocking the sherbets back though.
Edwards is clearly an entrenched player for us.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:34:31 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:38:18 PM
he should be well and truly established for his type.

He is well and truly established.

I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

You rackin up a few clouts tonight champ?

I'm actually sober. Reckon plenty of others are knocking the sherbets back though.
Edwards is clearly an entrenched player for us.

Entrenched as we are at a stage of list development that ensures he is a regular.If we can do better and get an upgrade we should take it.  Anyway clean and sober here in the Tucker household also. Obviously we all have no social life it seems talking about Titch close to midnight on a Saturday night. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 11, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.

I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 11, 2012, 11:42:45 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.

I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.

Thanks for that MM. :thumbsup

As I've said time will tell. We'll see how the kid goes and whether he can step up. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 11, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
There's quite a bit of b/s in this thread

*site
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 11, 2012, 11:49:34 PM
I just can't see this kid being anything more for us or anybody for that matter if he got traded.

Time will tell but I think he is a premiership footballer.

MM if he is a premiership footballer for us I'll be stoked but I don't think the kid is anything more than a C grader. But as you said time will tell and unlike others I'm happy to be proven wrong. My aim to see us do well and make finals and win flags. Right now I don't think he is more than what I have mentioned.

I respect your opinion Shane Tuckerbag. Disagree on this one though. Honestly think Edwards has found his spot. Give him some more crumbs to work with.
reckon most of us are prepared to feed him some more crumbs.  is to date a c grader at best.  and yes hes established an established sometimes below standard afl player and a sometimes c grade afl player. at 24 100 games i reckon people  are entiitled to question his consistency and upside.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: 10 FLAGS on August 12, 2012, 12:06:30 AM
magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre.  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 12, 2012, 12:17:55 AM
magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre.  ;D

Now now.. let's not get carried away. ;D
What we want are premiership footballers. Clearly not all of those have to be champions.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 12, 2012, 07:56:52 AM
magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre.  ;D

Today he will once again prove his doubters wrong against the sturdy defense of Pearce, Hargrave and Talia
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 12, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
magnificent footballer and worth a top 10 pick in the 2012 national draft. If Maurice was alive he would hail Edwards as one of the best of all time. Simply a great. Infact Benny Gale should stick a picture up of this bloke in the ME Bank Centre.  ;D

Today he will once again prove his doubters wrong against the sturdy defense of Pearce, Hargrave and Talia

 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on August 12, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Not taking sides here as I still can't make my mind up on Shed - his clangers can be the worst of game-changing howlers but his best can be just the opposite - but I thought I would chuck a summary of his stats up in response to Tucker's question re: how many 20+ possession games.

He played 16 games in 2007 averaging 10.3 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 9 games >10, 35 tackles @ 2.2.
He played 16 games in 2008 averaging 11.6 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 4 games >10, 30 tackles @ 1.9.
He played 15 games in 2009 averaging 12.6 disposals per game, no 20+ games, 3 games >10, 30 tackles @ 2.0.
He played 22 games in 2010 averaging 18.8 disposals per game, 8 20+ games, no games >10, 76 tackles @ 3.4.
He played 20 games in 2011 averaging 15.6 disposals per game, 5 20+ games, 1 game >10, 58 tackles @ 2.9.
He has played 16 games so far in 2012 averaging 17.4 disposals per game, 5 20+ games, 1 game >10, 41 tackles @ 2.6.

Interestingly, his stats show a marked increase since Hardwick and co took over so in fairness that should be considered when assessing his performance/worth.  Also, I have a recollection that he played under an injury cloud for some of 2011 so there are possible reasons for the slight decline from his breakout 2010 season.

I know that stats don't paint the whole picture but they do show trends and highlight points that might otherwise get hidden in the emotion of player assessment.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 12, 2012, 11:49:10 AM
I think his shanks are getting less and less too as his stats improve although when he does one it is a ripper
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 12, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
Inb4 'Edwards is a gun because he kicked 4.4 against the best side in history'
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 12, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Lads, how good was Edwards today?

Effing gun because he kicked 4.4 against arguably one of the best sides....wait, what?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on August 12, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
4.4 against the Bulldog juggernaut, give him 5 years Tiges  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 12, 2012, 06:38:30 PM
4.4 against the Bulldog juggernaut, give him 5 years Tiges  :clapping

Yes Big Man  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: camboon on August 12, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
Yep looks like the dark clouds will have to find another target

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 12, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
who cares who the opposition was facts are edwards was a gun today

he is a damn good player and our best small fwd, we need to pee nahas off

edwards is the best small fwd in the comp at the minute
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 12, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have.  i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.
jeez white king and nahas in the first half were invisible. king unlike the other two at least made a decent conttribution with a decent second half.
for the life of me i cant see how we continue to play any of the three.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on August 12, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 12, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half  and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second  half and played significant time in the midfield.  most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.

king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.

for me atm edwards is  atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him.  id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.

yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 12, 2012, 08:09:15 PM
had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have.  i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.

Nice to see you giving him some credit.

He is improving. Should have had 6 today with a bit of luck/polish.
Created havoc for the Dogs.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 12, 2012, 08:13:16 PM
Got to admit was our best small forward today. :thumbsup

But it must also be admitted that he gave his standard 2 hospital handballs and missed a few sitters.

Yes he did have a good game. :thumbsup

However look at the quality of opposition. I'd like him to have a game like that next week.

Who wouldn't. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on August 12, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
The Claw is just too brief in his posts, embellish your point craw
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 12, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
had another v/good game today. atm is easily the best small forward we have.  i make that about 10 of the last 11 games where hes been at the least servicable thru to very good playing as a small forward.

Nice to see you giving him some credit.

He is improving. Should have had 6 today with a bit of luck/polish.
Created havoc for the Dogs.
believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games  only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level  im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 12, 2012, 08:23:38 PM
king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half  and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second  half and played significant time in the midfield.  most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.

king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.

for me atm edwards is  atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him.  id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.

yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.

Pretty sure King set up our very first goal?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 12, 2012, 08:28:11 PM
i put my hand up and say wow i didnt see that coming from 

Sensational.

Leadership group 2013 will consist of Titch, Jackson, White and Newman

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 12, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half  and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second  half and played significant time in the midfield.  most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.

king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.

for me atm edwards is  atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him.  id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.

yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.

couldve told you this would happen in Rd 1 Claw.

usual suspects bop up against rubbish string a few games and some start getting excited again and forget about the big picture.

Edwards has no upside. he has either good like today and for about 30% of season games or very poor like the other 70%

When are we going to get serious and cut spuds like White and Jackson

I, like you cant see how we can genuinely challenge with all of White, Nahas, King, Edwards and Jackson all in the same team

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: camboon on August 12, 2012, 09:13:47 PM
He's our best small forward at the moment and King stepped up when the game needed to be won in the third. Robie had a bad one today but has kicked a few in previous games.

The marks he took in the forward line showed his courage and I for one are please that he is playing as a forward where he is best suited.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 12, 2012, 10:47:31 PM
Andrew Jarman was right
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 13, 2012, 05:11:22 AM
king had 20 possies. for a small forward that's hardly invisible.
let himself down again with the missed goals, but again, wasn't Robinson Caruso
he was shocking in the first half  and was invisible. as i said to his credit he at least turned it around in the second  half and played significant time in the midfield.  most weeks he doesnt he remains invisible apart from the brain fades. this week he got free because we could play in the midfield but against most sides hes shown himself to be a liability when played in there.
hes a vfl player who had for him a great second half.

king along with nahas and white we must change what we are doing if we wish to be a decent finals side.

for me atm edwards is  atm the only small forward we need play and with his record i have reservations about him.  id like to see long term a really clever medium sized player who can mark and we continue to rotate one of martin cotchin deledio or caddy if we go after him thru there along with edwards.. we need to play two kpfs and a ruck forward like vickery to complete the forward line. on top of that we need depth for when injury hits.

yep we have plenty of invisible men each week but they usually bob up and do something to make themselves noticed and people forgive them.

couldve told you this would happen in Rd 1 Claw.

usual suspects bop up against rubbish string a few games and some start getting excited again and forget about the big picture.

Edwards has no upside. he has either good like today and for about 30% of season games or very poor like the other 70%

When are we going to get serious and cut spuds like White and Jackson

I, like you cant see how we can genuinely challenge with all of White, Nahas, King, Edwards and Jackson all in the same team

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: eliminator on August 13, 2012, 06:51:54 AM
Totally agree with Camboon. Edwards very quick with his hands in contested situations. If Edwards had kicked straight could easily have kicked 6 or 7 goals. Edwards must play in forwardline. King was very good particularly in 3rd quarter when the game was up for grabs. Agree Nahas had a bad game.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 13, 2012, 07:49:10 AM
believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games  only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level  im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.

As I have said before his 2011 season was largely interrupted due to major shoulder surgery over the pre season.
He's returned to the form he was showing in 2010.
The challenge is no doubt there to keep improving though, as it is for all players on our list. Think he can.


Edwards has no upside.

Would think this year he's shown plenty of 'upside' but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about your opinions. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 13, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
believe it if you like but i always give credit when i think its due.
ive seen this before with edwards a period of decent performances for 8 10 games  only for him to slip backwards to a below standard level and stay down for a long time.. as long as in the main ( i say in the main because all players have short down periods) he can as a sml forward maintain close to the current level  im happy to see him get a game as a small forward.. consistency is the key and edwards has been nothing like consistent its now up to him for a long period sustain a decent standard.

As I have said before his 2011 season was largely interrupted due to major shoulder surgery over the pre season.
He's returned to the form he was showing in 2010.
The challenge is no doubt there to keep improving though, as it is for all players on our list. Think he can.


Edwards has no upside.

Would think this year he's shown plenty of 'upside' but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about your opinions. :thumbsup

I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D

Amazing....he is not not as good as you think, he has had 6 years in the system and should be a bloody star they way you talk about him, but he isn't..let it go MM.... :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 13, 2012, 10:20:35 AM
I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D

Yawn. He's making the likes of you look very silly I must say but when he's played 250 games and has been part of a premieship side, no doubt you'll still be hoping he's a failure, just so you can say I told you so.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 13, 2012, 10:21:57 AM
Missing goals from 2m out.  Game record holder.  The highlights reel for this player must be huge.

Takes some serious skill to be able to miss from there consistently.  Only a few players on our list who were capable of that in the late 80s early 90s.  Doesn't Edwards bring back some memories.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 13, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
I have never in my life seen anyone stick up for a player like you do for Edwarts. You must be married to him, related to him or you are a stalker... ;D

Yawn. He's making the likes of you look very silly I must say but when he's played 250 games and has been part of a premieship side, no doubt you'll still be hoping he's a failure, just so you can say I told you so.

Please read unplugged comments and the majority of forum users. Why is he making the "likes of me look silly", your kidding, he has made the likes of you look siily for 6 years.

Also, go back and read my posts saying I hope he makes so don't take my comments and screw them around to suit your one eyed mind.

Fact...6 years on the team...fact very little to prove for it......fact he kicked 4 goals against a bottom 4 side....fact he missed the easiest shot in the league.....

If he is still there in two years Hardwick MAY be elseware...

 :sleep :sleep
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 13, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
Please read unplugged comments and the majority of forum users.

An outspoken few does not represent the majority.
Anyways we'll see in a few years who's right about which way Edwards future is heading.

So far I'm well ahead considering you fully expected him to be delisted at the start of the year..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 13, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
Why are people taking away his 4.4 cause its a bottom team? He kicked the second most goals for our team, does that mean everyone else had a poo game cause it was against a bottom team? Deledio only got 31 touches against a poo team, had an absolute stinker
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 13, 2012, 01:32:59 PM
Milne kicked 1.3 against them and Betts 2.1 so you work it out dude
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 13, 2012, 01:50:49 PM
 "An outspoken few does not represent the majority.
Anyways we'll see in a few years who's right about which way Edwards future is heading.

So far I'm well ahead considering you fully expected him to be delisted at the start of the year.."


:sleep :sleep.....Trade him....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 13, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
ffs edwards is a required and damn good player

pull ur heads out of ur culi u idiots
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigger on August 13, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
In the last 12 rounds he has kicked 22 goals...kicked more than 1 on 8 occasions in that timeperiod.

He is more than serviceable.

Unfortunately he along with Jacko (and to a lesser extent White because he isnt in the team as much) have become the whipping boys for internet crusaders...oh well...whip away if you must.

The reality is that the coaching staff rate him, and from the looks of his teammates, they do too.  That is all that counts really.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 13, 2012, 03:48:33 PM
Does the role that he needs to, is our best small forward by a long margin.  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 13, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
From Dimma.

* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.

Dimma left out the reason he has no composure even 1m out from goal all on his own.  It is because he is poo scared and looking over his shoulder.  If that ever changes, he will be a good footballer.  He has had six years to grow a set.  Can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 13, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.

Pretty fair assessment from the coach.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 13, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
From Dimma.

* Edwards - first year with Dimma was good. Last year a bit quieter but back to good this season. Dangerous player to play on as he has speed to get ball to boot quickly. Just needs to compose himself a bit more and he'll be a 40 goal-a-year player.

Dimma left out the reason he has no composure even 1m out from goal all on his own.  It is because he is poo scared and looking over his shoulder.  If that ever changes, he will be a good footballer.  He has had six years to grow a set.  Can't see it happening.

Apparently all reports from the change rooms are that they finally dropped this year!  Except when it's really cold but then that would affect all except the most well endowed! :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Big Papa Bear on August 13, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
Good game Titch - was not a fan at beginning of the year but has started to become a lot mor consistent.

We have had a lot of "project" players that have simply fallen off the earth - good to see we can develop a good player internally
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 14, 2012, 09:40:30 AM
Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 14, 2012, 12:59:40 PM
Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable  :clapping

You left out.  If he stops being a loser.  Have to include the whole quote, not just the fairy tale part.

Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Carlton.  The three wins that would have seen us play finals.  Edwards 2 Goals 7 Behinds.  Nahas 9 Goals 2 Behinds.

If Edwards had of converted 3 of those misses from 5 metres out, we would be playing finals now. 

Even with no opponent and no pressure on the weekend against a reserve team with King and Nahas in the side taking the better defenders, the completely useless dud missed 4 gimmes.  Of the four goals he did get, one of his conversions he struggled from 2m out, almost hit the post and another was a gift from Riewoldt into an open goal.

Its not complicated why people don't like Edwards.  He has been a dud of epic proportions for the last 6 years and still he gets picked week in week out.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 14, 2012, 01:25:24 PM
Will kick 40 goals as a small forward next season. More than serviceable  :clapping

You left out.  If he stops being a loser.  Have to include the whole quote, not just the fairy tale part.

Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Carlton.  The three wins that would have seen us play finals.  Edwards 2 Goals 7 Behinds.  Nahas 9 Goals 2 Behinds.

If Edwards had of converted 3 of those misses from 5 metres out, we would be playing finals now. 

Even with no opponent and no pressure on the weekend against a reserve team with King and Nahas in the side taking the better defenders, the completely useless dud missed 4 gimmes.  Of the four goals he did get, one of his conversions he struggled from 2m out, almost hit the post and another was a gift from Riewoldt into an open goal.

Its not complicated why people don't like Edwards.  He has been a dud of epic proportions for the last 6 years and still he gets picked week in week out.
You mean the goal he sprinted in from the boundary after taking the crumbs from Cotchin going up in a marking contest? Was he meant to kick that from where he took it??  :whistle :shh

Shameful to blame the loss of those games on 1 player, and out of the players that you could pin you pick Edwards? Nahas had 13, 8 and 9 disposals in those games to Edwards 17, 16 and 18. So 30 disposals to Nahas and 51 to Edwards.

Goal assists Nahas 1 Edwards 4 . . .
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
Edwards excites
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 14 Aug, 2012


Shane Edwards continues to shine in his new role as a medium-sized forward in the Richmond line-up.

Edwards kicked a career-high four goals in the Tigers’ 70-point win against the Western Bulldogs at the MCG last Sunday, to take his season’s tally to 23, with 22 of those coming in the past 12 games, since his permanent move into attack.

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/144535/default.aspx


VIDEO: Edwards' goalrush ...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/479026/Edwards%27%20goal%20rush/
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 14, 2012, 03:12:25 PM
You mean the goal he sprinted in from the boundary after taking the crumbs from Cotchin going up in a marking contest? Was he meant to kick that from where he took it??  :whistle :shh

Shameful to blame the loss of those games on 1 player, and out of the players that you could pin you pick Edwards? Nahas had 13, 8 and 9 disposals in those games to Edwards 17, 16 and 18. So 30 disposals to Nahas and 51 to Edwards.

Goal assists Nahas 1 Edwards 4 . . .

Gold Coast.  0 Goals 3 Behinds.  Lost by 2 points.  Carlton 0 Goals 3 Behinds.  Lost by 4 points.  Not counting kicks that didn't make it or were on the full.

Shameful to defend this dud.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on August 14, 2012, 03:42:55 PM
everyone loves a bit of TITCH :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 14, 2012, 03:45:29 PM
Lined up in the guts before the first boucr I think.
love him or hate him; he's got great hands. Agile.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 14, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
everyone loves a bit of TITCH :shh

And some have the itch  :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 14, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
Others call jack a bitch
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 14, 2012, 05:36:38 PM
when he's on he does some good things.
Psycho
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on August 14, 2012, 07:38:38 PM
Others call jack a bitch

:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 14, 2012, 11:25:03 PM
kicking has always been a problem with him

bit harsh going crook this week  about him kicking 4.4 didnt he hit the post twice from tight angles. 4.4 22 possesions with his fair share of tackles and applied pressure was a decent game. he went thru midfield and gave others a chop out.

the combined footskills of the smalls is a real problem edwards white king nahas again i  have to talk about the lack of polish with all of them.
 with nahas the falling over the bloody fumbles hes never one touch or clean its this when i say lack of polish. the lack of possesion as a combination is not good enough.
edwards with his kicking nahas with his onesidedness and lack of good footskills white is a poor kick and decision maker doesnt get much ball.  king for a small misses his fair share and just doesnt get enough ball . if tackling stats are to be used as a guide king hardly tackles compared to the others .
king white and nahas for the last 12 weeks just havent been involved in games enough combine that with their skills and you have good grounds for complaint.
nahas has had  15 possesions or more on just 5 occasions and only once against a good side.all 4 have shown themselves to be liabilities when in the midfield. credit to edwards the last 12 13 games when in the midfield hes been okay.

white has had just 5 games. hes only getting it 10 times a game has only kicked 3 goals and laid 6 tackles again this combined with his ordinary skill set screams we must do something about him. i know hes had limited time but these sort of stats stack up right across his career.

king has had 11 games kicked just 7 goals just 22 tackles and  averages just over 11.5 possesions a game. again this sort of output combined with poor skills is not good enough.

king nahas and edwards are contracted so will be kept. being uncontracted  i would be shocked if white is retained though. we have to make some decisions on some of these types.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on August 15, 2012, 10:44:48 AM
Agree on White.  Probably the most skillful of the lot but doesn't get enough of the ball.  He doesn't run hard enough to link up, doesn't win his own ball and struggles defensively.  I'm not sure if the issue with him is that they play him in a tagging capacity or if he is constantly carrying injuries?  White has had seven years to prove himself.  That is too long for a mid size player to come good.  Really should have gone a few years ago.

If we could organise a trade for him to one of the fledgling clubs who might need a bit more experience through the midfield or forward line, we should take whatever we can get.  He needs a change for his career as much as we need to get rid of him and try to develop or recruit better players.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 15, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
Agree on White.  Probably the most skillful of the lot but doesn't get enough of the ball.  He doesn't run hard enough to link up, doesn't win his own ball and struggles defensively.  I'm not sure if the issue with him is that they play him in a tagging capacity or if he is constantly carrying injuries?  White has had seven years to prove himself.  That is too long for a mid size player to come good.  Really should have gone a few years ago.

If we could organise a trade for him to one of the fledgling clubs who might need a bit more experience through the midfield or forward line, we should take whatever we can get.  He needs a change for his career as much as we need to get rid of him and try to develop or recruit better players.
Problem is no one will offer anything for him.

If we can recruit 1 good small forward this season (Saad type), then Kings last season will be 2013. Ideally you want to have an Edwards and a Saad in the forward line crumbing the goals with Nahas to come in as a replacement for one if form warrants it or injuries grant him that chance.

Edwards is good enough to be a second small/medium forward. Just need that 1 genuine small forward and we will be right.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 15, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
others here may know how well hes gone or not this yr but willie wheeler was i thought we should have rookied.
what impressed me with him was not just the numbers but just how clean he was and his skills were very much up to afl standard.  going by the criteria i use for targeting state league players im surprised noone took a punt on him as a rookie. just like i was surprised at a few others not at least given a chance on the rookie list.

if we are chasing a quick classy forward we could do worse than max duffy at e/freo.

i still believe chasing someone like caddy if we believe hes a more talented player than what may be available at pick 10 ish is the way to go.

he can play forward caddy deledio martin and cotchin we could afford to permanently have one of them rotating thru the forward line.

this is how i would envision our forward line moving forward

hf/ edwards -  one of elton/griffiths/astbury - duffy/ohanlon or classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.
f/  vickery -  riewoldt -  caddy/martin/deledio/conca in rotations

clearly i dont envision a long term with any of king nahas or white. also some of those mentioned may not make it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on August 15, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.

harper is yet to re-sign with norf, love the way he goes about it and would love to **** norf over whilst upgrading our list

send them nahas and one of our 2nd round picks or he walks
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 15, 2012, 09:02:09 PM
classy well rounded sml/med forward looking for someone of kieren harpers potential.

harper is yet to re-sign with norf, love the way he goes about it and would love to **** norf over whilst upgrading our list

send them nahas and one of our 2nd round picks or he walks

Get it done! Kid has shown heaps in the back Half of the season. Is a great Kick!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on August 16, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
Harper was a massive Tigers fan as a kid also.  ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 18, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
Won't be defending that one. Stinker.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on August 18, 2012, 08:48:10 PM
Harper was a massive Tigers fan as a kid also.  ;)

Was too
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 18, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Won't be defending that one. Stinker.

Open your eyes pal

That was typical Edwards in 75% of games he has played

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 18, 2012, 11:35:03 PM
Terrible just terrible

Can't defend what cannot be excused
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 18, 2012, 11:39:34 PM
I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 18, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....

De-list King who was one of best today?

Agree re Nahas after today's effort especially after witnessing his stroll out on the wing with his back to the play while Houli is running foward trying to spot him for a pass  :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 19, 2012, 12:40:40 AM
I'll defend him! Clearly he can't be played outside the 50. We have tried this now the last couple of weeks and he is hopeless!! Keep him around goals, delist Nahas and King. Edwards gets 1 more year.....

De-list King who was one of best today?

Agree re Nahas after today's effort especially after witnessing his stroll out on the wing with his back to the play while Houli is running foward trying to spot him for a pass  :banghead

Yep, and Edwards was one of our best last week. As I said, Edwards is hopeless played up the ground but around the goals he is brilliant. Is faster and has many more tricks than King. Keep Edwards forward and he poo 's on both King and Nahas......
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on August 19, 2012, 07:41:43 AM
Open your eyes pal

Pfft. The irony. He's been good up forward for us this season but I wasn't impressed one bit yesterday. Struggled when asked to fill Conca's role.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on August 19, 2012, 08:59:08 AM
Open your eyes pal

Pfft. The irony. He's been good up forward for us this season but I wasn't impressed one bit yesterday. Struggled when asked to fill Conca's role.

I said 75% of games

I agree his quick  hands is very good but I've seen too many times against good opposition revert back to the Edwards of old. Missed handballs from 1 metre away, slipped tackles.

We differ cause you see him part of a premiership team, I don't.

Would love for the RFC to show some balls and trade one of he or Nahas but they wont


Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 19, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
Honestly what another insiped performance.

Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!

He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...

 :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Big Papa Bear on August 19, 2012, 01:10:11 PM
Poor game yesterday after a string of consistent ones. Needs to stand up in the games against better opposition. Still year has been good overall
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 19, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
he still was better than half 3/4 our other players and our pathetic captain
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigercub2012 on August 19, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
he still was better than half 3/4 our other players and our pathetic captain

 :clapping x52,809
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: camboon on August 19, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
LOL  - Crack that whip , I vote we recruit another whipping boy for next year - ours just have improved too much, ( well maybe not all of them - but Titch and Rancey have)  - I hear that theres a couple of small forwards that can be played in the midfield that would suit the position beautifully!

If your hungry have a snack on your own - very satisfying - mmm yum
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on August 19, 2012, 03:06:22 PM
had a shocker imo. can forgive one bad one in 10 or 12, in the past the bad ones have become the norm lets hope that doesnt happen again.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on August 19, 2012, 07:36:33 PM
Honestly what another insiped performance.

Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!

He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...

 :banghead

You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Frustrated on August 19, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
Honestly what another insiped performance.

Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!

He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...

 :banghead

You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Edwards has at least taken a few steps forward not like Graham, McGuane and co.  :banghead

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 19, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
Honestly what another insiped performance.

Easy games, easy goals and some of you think he is the juice.....WAKE UP!

He is pathetic, trade him now, Tambling was better FFS...

 :banghead

You've been surprisingly quiet about Edwards lately


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Edwards has at least taken a few steps forward not like Graham, McGuane and co.  :banghead
FFS! Even Frustrated can see it :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2012, 02:04:52 AM
VIDEO: Titch interviewed in the rooms after the game yesterday ...

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/486414/In%20the%20rooms:%20Edwards/
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Big Papa Bear on September 03, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
Positives - goal kicking, tackling(?), endurance, pace, forward pressure

Negatives - strength, accuracy

Assessment: Retain - still in the red for ROI, so needs to keep improving this year and provide a consistant effort. Also needs to get more of the ball in midfield to provide back up option
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Stripes on September 03, 2012, 12:27:30 PM
I'm very interested to see who we keep in our best 22 next year in the small forward role. Assuming we get Knights that would mean we have Nahas, King, Edwards and Knights fighting for 2 spots (Maric will be delisted surely). King has so far claimed the defensive small forward role so who will be able to fill this role of King is missing and who will be our crumber/midfielder?

Nahas is the most in danger here. Knights and Edwards are much more capable of rotating through the midfield than Nahas who is till far too slight. Maybe Edwards and Knights will rotate between the midfield/wing and forwardline going forward?

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 03, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
I'm very interested to see who we keep in our best 22 next year in the small forward role. Assuming we get Knights that would mean we have Nahas, King, Edwards and Knights fighting for 2 spots (Maric will be delisted surely). King has so far claimed the defensive small forward role so who will be able to fill this role of King is missing and who will be our crumber/midfielder?

Nahas is the most in danger here. Knights and Edwards are much more capable of rotating through the midfield than Nahas who is till far too slight. Maybe Edwards and Knights will rotate between the midfield/wing and forwardline going forward?

Knights is a Half Forward Flanker/Midfielder, not a small forward. Would play a completely different roll to any of those three.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 03, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
Positives - goal kicking, tackling(?), endurance, pace, forward pressure

Negatives - strength, accuracy

Assessment: Retain - still in the red for ROI, so needs to keep improving this year and provide a consistant effort. Also needs to get more of the ball in midfield to provide back up option
Positive: positioning/crumbing packs
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 03, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Another 3 goals from Edwards. Has had an excellent year up forward and stuck it up his doubters. 8)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: eliminator on September 03, 2012, 05:38:28 PM
Best year by far at the club. Is clearly a forward. Dangerous around the forwardline. Needs to work on his kicking but well done to him for improving his game. Very quick with his hands. Hopefully follows up next year with another good year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 09, 2012, 12:25:44 AM
29 goals for the season & and 8th place finish in the B&F. Safe to say Shane won't be getting delisted any time soon numbnuts.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 09, 2012, 12:29:51 AM
only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 09, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
Need 40 goals from him next year
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 09, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game

He adds both.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2012, 04:48:30 AM
only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game

He adds both.

You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.

He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.

His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.

Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 09, 2012, 08:01:39 AM
He is pretty strong for his size much stronger than nahas... And be can take a  mark over head unlike falafel head... Edwards is a fine player and required... He is even Better and more dangerous than Foley... Some of u knobs just cannot admit Edwards is a valued player
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on September 09, 2012, 09:42:32 AM
As a small forward edwards is more dangerous than foley.But at this point in time edwards is a goal sneak,nothing more nothing less.On the other hand i regard nathan as an elite midfielder.When he went down earlier this year we missed him badly .I'd go as far as to say that if he played ,some of those real close games we would have won.On the other hand if edwards went down with a long term injury(god forbid) would we miss him as much?...very much doubt it
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigtuff12 on September 09, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
much improved season from titch - thought he was gone prior to this year but felt he did enough to warrant at least being in our best 25...

hopefully realises now what it takes to make it/contribute & goes up another cog next year....

not sure he is better than Foley - think that's pushing it...more dangerous up forward perhaps
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on September 09, 2012, 12:02:56 PM
thought he was pretty ordinary the first 8 9 games.

thought he was pretty decent most games there after primarily  as a small forward.
for 6 yrs the challenge for this bloke has been not to drop off too much when he has a poor game and becoming consistent.
has it all to prove still as just over half a yr of decent footy is not enough.

only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game

He adds both.

You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.

He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.

His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.

Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 09, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
He is pretty strong for his size much stronger than nahas... And be can take a  mark over head unlike falafel head... Edwards is a fine player and required... He is even Better and more dangerous than Foley... Some of u knobs just cannot admit Edwards is a valued player

Some knobbies can't admit Foley is a good player either. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2012, 05:09:37 PM
thought he was pretty ordinary the first 8 9 games.

thought he was pretty decent most games there after primarily  as a small forward.
for 6 yrs the challenge for this bloke has been not to drop off too much when he has a poor game and becoming consistent.
has it all to prove still as just over half a yr of decent footy is not enough.

only too dicker 2 years to to work out he had to concentrate on his scoring ability rather than running game

He adds both.

You were harder on Martin in you comments than you have ever been on Edwards and you are still blind sided.

He still fades in and out of games and he still get tossed off the ball easier than any other player in our team, he still turns the ball over 3-4 times a game and misses easy shots at goal.

His goal tally has improved, he is very good with his hands in close, he can take a good mark and he does set up goals.

Next year he needs to play 4 qtrs, he needs to stop thinking he is the hulk and stop trying to break tackles, he needs to kick 40+ goals if he plays forward of the ball and he needs to stop turning it over...
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Was that my summation of Edwards or MM.... :lol :thumbsup ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 09, 2012, 10:39:38 PM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 04:59:26 AM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh

Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...

Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 10, 2012, 07:42:43 AM
Foley is an overrated damaged goods player... Why didn't the cats even consider him... Because his disposal has always been suss.... His body is busted... And he's very good at finding the ball and even better at stuffing up when he has it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 10, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh

Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...

Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh


An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh

Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...

Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh


An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.

Bla bla 8th, I was waiting for this one, mate go read my original post, you usually only select what you want out of them, I had positives and negatives for Edwards. Take off your blinkers mate. 8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dice on September 10, 2012, 11:40:37 AM
8th out of that lot is not a hard task.
Really ?  :lol  So who do you barrack for mate ?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 10, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
8th out of that lot is not a hard task.

Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?

8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
8th out of that lot is not a hard task.

Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?

8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.

Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 10, 2012, 12:39:36 PM
8th out of that lot is not a hard task.

Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?

8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.

Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep

Oh really? Didn't stop you bringing Martin up in this thread recently.

You've just said that his finish in the JDM means nothing because 'that lot' isn't much chop so I can only assume you don't rate the players he beat in the tally.

I'm obviously not saying Shane is better than those guys as they have different roles, but Edwards had a very good season. No surprises that you're too blind to see it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on September 10, 2012, 12:48:19 PM
geez why cant some give the kid a break. :banghead

love the Titch and his quick hands and reflexes.

still scope for improvement i reckon. :thumbsup

has an X factor that all teams need occasionally.

but if he is a DUD as some on here claim him
to be who am i to argue with these experts. :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
8th out of that lot is not a hard task.

Don't rate Dustin Martin or Jack Riewoldt?

8th is a good result no matter how much you try to belittle it.

Discussing Edwards= :sleep :sleep :sleep

Oh really? Didn't stop you bringing Martin up in this thread recently.

You've just said that his finish in the JDM means nothing because 'that lot' isn't much chop so I can only assume you don't rate the players he beat in the tally.

You'd think that line of logic was pretty easy to follow
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
6 stuffing years, 6 stuffing years, he would want to give more than he has in 6 stuffing years...

Wouldn't be in the line up at any of the top 8 clubs, FFS wake up, he goes ok and thats about it.

Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 10, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
only duds or superstars at richmond

"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 01:10:11 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
6 stuffing years, 6 stuffing years, he would want to give more than he has in 6 stuffing years...

Wouldn't be in the line up at any of the top 8 clubs, FFS wake up, he goes ok and thats about it.

Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

Harsh there mate,  ill be honest I havent rated Titch and put a line through his name in that game against the pies a few years ago when from 3  relatively easy shots on goal he managed a total combined agg score of 1 behind.... However, if he manages to play next season to the min standard of what he set as a small fwd in the second half of this season, then hes proved me and other knockers wrong. Doesnt need to be a top 4 player at the club, just a reasonable and decent contributor like the back half of this season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
only duds or superstars at richmond

"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO  :lol

Ok Gerks, 4-6 or am I still asking too much, I mean he apparently is a superstar finishing 8th...is 6th too much to ask mate.

Thats the problem with half of you, you are happy when our players reach the "ok" level or the "good enough" level.....thats why we have been in the poo we have for years. Accept the mediocray, pfft!!!!

For the milliionth time, he waent well this year, but thats it, he wasn't a star, he has been in the system for 6 years he sould be playing better than well......

FFS....BTW al, your still a fool! :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 01:37:15 PM
 :lol
im the fool?
do you realise that only 4 players can finish in the top 4? (or 6 can finish in the top 6)?
so therefore with the rest we are accepting them reaching the OK level?

LMAO.

Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?

go for it big boy :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on September 10, 2012, 01:43:35 PM
certainly some strange cats on here. :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 10, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
only duds or superstars at richmond

"top 4 at the club or FAIL" LMFAO  :lol

Ok Gerks, 4-6 or am I still asking too much, I mean he apparently is a superstar finishing 8th...is 6th too much to ask mate.

Thats the problem with half of you, you are happy when our players reach the "ok" level or the "good enough" level.....thats why we have been in the poo we have for years. Accept the mediocray, pfft!!!!

For the milliionth time, he waent well this year, but thats it, he wasn't a star, he has been in the system for 6 years he sould be playing better than well......

FFS....BTW al, your still a fool! :lol

spot on

started slowly, ended well. best season to date.

If he backs it up next year with a consistent year then as supporters thats all you can ask. Its taken 6 years so hopefully he can

if he can be a consistent player i.e last half of the year then has more upside than Nahas and King. Is far more clever and quicker than Nahas and has age on his side vrs King

Key word is consistency



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
:lol
im the fool?
do you realise that only 4 players can finish in the top 4? (or 6 can finish in the top 6)?
so therefore with the rest we are accepting them reaching the OK level?

LMAO.

Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?

go for it big boy :thumbsup

 :lol

Good so Jackson is ok then...

No al, you are just the self proclaimed legend arent you....

I don't rate Edwards any better than good, thats it for me.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
if you dont rate him any better than good, why would you expect him to finish top 4-6 in the B&F?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 01:51:33 PM
if you dont rate him any better than good, why would you expect him to finish top 4-6 in the B&F?

There you go, you are a fool. Proof of it.

I said he would need to finish there next year to prove he has gone better than this year...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
 :lol
and here i was thinking you said this..
Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
:lol
and here i was thinking you said this..
Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

al now you are really backtracking, I changed that to top 4-6, which you know and it was a generalisation comment ....get over yourself mate.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 02:07:02 PM
OK,
Sorry dear,

Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

All better now?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 02:09:40 PM
OK,
Sorry dear,

Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

All better now?

idiot.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
OK,
Sorry dear,

Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

All better now?

Love your signature too, proves that you do think you are pretty special.. :lol :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
Discuss the topic without the namecalling and insults ppl!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 10, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
OK,
Sorry dear,

Quote
Next year he better be in the top 4-6 at the club or FAIL!!!!!!!!

All better now?

Love your signature too, proves that you do think you are pretty special.. :lol :lol
I don't think he needs to finish any higher in the B&F to warrant his improvement. In all honesty, you'd expect with good seasons to Martin and a few others, he should drop from 8th. Doesn't mean he can't improve on his output from this year though.

If he can kick around 30-35 goals next year as a small forward, and keep up his assists and forward line pressure that is more than enough IMO. Will never be a Cotchin/Martin/Deledio but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a use in our side. Our best small forward by a margin at the moment.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 10, 2012, 02:58:54 PM
Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?

Nobody has labelled him a superstar. He's only been branded a dud.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Who said fishing 8th makes someone a superstar?
Examples please, or perhaps it is you that officially becomes the fool?

Nobody has labelled him a superstar. He's only been branded a dud.

Where lately???
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 10, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
Where lately???

He is pathetic

3 weeks ago recent enough?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 10, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
he meant that he was pathetic he couldn't finish in the top four 4 to 6 in the B&F, not that he was a pathetic footballer
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 10, 2012, 07:12:07 PM
he meant that he was pathetic he couldn't finish in the top four 4 to 6 in the B&F, not that he was a pathetic footballer

We should delist any player not in our top 6 and have a good crack at the draft every year. If they don't finish that high they are obviously duds
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 10, 2012, 07:20:27 PM
#krakatoa
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 10, 2012, 07:46:56 PM
Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 10, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.

Thats utter BS

I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.

2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011

For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.

Thats utter BS

I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.

2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011

For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.

he will play well next yr because earning your utmost respect is the only reason why he plays lol  :help :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 10, 2012, 08:24:10 PM
Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.

Thats utter BS

I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.

2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011

For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.

he will play well next yr because earning your utmost respect is the only reason why he plays lol  :help :wallywink

glad you said it. Cheers :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 10, 2012, 10:19:59 PM
I am not a fan of Titch and I am far from being won over,

but as some of the previous posters have mentioned and I will re-iterate. If he can hit his purple patch more consistently and for more blocks of games rather than a few here and a few there then I will turn on the subject.

As I have said in another post if he proves me wrong I'm man enough to admit that. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2012, 05:49:06 AM
Where lately???

He is pathetic

3 weeks ago recent enough?

Still didn't call him a dud did I.

3 weeks ago when I called that he was pathetic he bloody was, this is his problem, 3 weeks before that I probably said the same, and then 3 weeks prior to that again....NOT CONSISTENT.....or is he..

He is not consistent mate, get it, I will say it again for the al minded people, he had a good year and thats it, nothing more, he needs to back it up next year and add to it with a very good year. He needs to play week in week out every game and he is not doing that.

For all that that say 8th in the B&F is a great result, look at the players above him, they have been at the club the less than Edwards. After 6 years I expected more.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2012, 05:56:07 AM
I am not a fan of Titch and I am far from being won over,

but as some of the previous posters have mentioned and I will re-iterate. If he can hit his purple patch more consistently and for more blocks of games rather than a few here and a few there then I will turn on the subject.

As I have said in another post if he proves me wrong I'm man enough to admit that. :thumbsup

I am with you on this TB.

Actually I have said at the start of every season for the past 3 seasons that I will support him and I really hope he makes it, I mean makes it.

I also said I hope he proves me wrong, not just one good year or a few good games but consistently proves me wrong, then I will admit it too.

At this point in time though I have been waiting for 3 years and other than glimpses of decent football spread over a game he has not proved me wrong yet.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 11, 2012, 06:18:15 AM
Everyone has their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion, top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.

Thats utter BS

I will respect him as a player if he backs it up next season.

2010 he had a good back half yet went missing in 2011

For me personally i was happy with his back half and think if he keeps that form up he is more than capable of keeping his spot in the 22.
Ok then.........Some people always have their whipping boys and no amount of persuasion. top 4 to 6 finishes or objectivity and reasoning will change that.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 11, 2012, 10:00:23 AM
Where lately???

He is pathetic

3 weeks ago recent enough?
Still didn't call him a dud did I.

Let's not get bogged down in semantics. You clearly don't rate him.

Short of a Brownlow or Jack Dyer medal you'll always jump at the first sign of inconsistency so you can say I told you so.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 11, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game

Pot kettle black?  :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 11, 2012, 10:08:15 AM
And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game

Pot kettle black?  :shh

 :angel:
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 11, 2012, 02:59:54 PM
According to the RFC site, Shane had the most goal assists of any Richmond player this season.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 11, 2012, 03:19:55 PM
Top 4 or FAIL  :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 11, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game

Pot kettle black?  :shh

 :lol :lol The reverse WAT seems to come out allot thses days ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on September 11, 2012, 03:33:14 PM
The reverse WAT has been outlawed in most developed countries. Too many spinal injuries.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 11, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
even the regular WAT was banned in tassie up until 1997
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on September 11, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh

Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...

Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh


An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
im shocked he finished 8th. thought his first third of the yr ordinary.
is 8th just a reflection of the depth of the list or a reflection of a very good consistent yr.
personally i have never ever rated or included b&f finishes when debating players.

the problem people have with him is consistency and parts of his skill set. these things have not changed apart from having a decent back half to the yr.
lets be honest here shane has strung good games together before only to regress back to what seems is his level.
 people really are entitled to ask will he maintain the decent afl level he was at for the last 12 odd games.they are entitled wait and see if he can at last find consistency before proclaiming him a good player.

one thing i am adamant on as a team structurally we can not play all of edwards king and nahas.  imo there is a plce for just one.
 all three lack big time in similar areas. of the three i think edwards the pick of them atm but that has changed regularly over the yrs as the form of these blokes fluctuates like a woman changing her mind in the shops.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 11, 2012, 10:16:11 PM
And you do the reverse WAT everytime he has a passable game

Pot kettle black?  :shh

 :lol :lol The reverse WAT seems to come out allot thses days ;D

Is that what they call a twit?

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 12, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
thats a pretty good summation of his weaknesses and strengths.  did enough to to keep his spot nothing more at this stage.

Certainly did enough to keep his spot which is a far cry from what some here expected at the beginning of the year. :shh

Incorrect..again...a lot expected more of him, more consistency, as per my previous points...

Yes he was better but the inconsistency a stupid errors are still there....now.... :shh


An 8th place finish in the B&F shows his value to the club but keep talking him down if it makes you feel justified.
im shocked he finished 8th. thought his first third of the yr ordinary.
is 8th just a reflection of the depth of the list or a reflection of a very good consistent yr.
personally i have never ever rated or included b&f finishes when debating players.

You're right the B&F finish isn't all that relevant by itself but 29 goals and the highest number of scoring assists on our list shows his value to the team.
He is a one of our most creative players without doubt.
Sometimes when he's trying to make things happen the ball gets turned over which I guess deserves some criticism re his consistency but I like that he's taking risks with the ball. Sometimes it's going to pay off, sometimes it doesn't.
Whatever his B&F finish indicates, one thing is for sure and that's that he's now an established player in our side. If someone better comes along and pushes him out great but for now he'd be comfortably picked in our best 22 and does not deserve the 'pathetic' tags some here have placed on him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 12, 2012, 09:29:49 AM
Had the 8th best year for Richmond. Wheres the criticism of the players below him and their inconsistency
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 12, 2012, 09:37:31 AM
Had the 8th best year for Richmond. Wheres the criticism of the players below him and their inconsistency

Im not too sure how to cut and paste the list on who actually finished lower than Edwards but taking out the injured Grimes, Foley, Vickery, Griffiths, Batch, plus players who are either young or played mostly in reserves i believe players like Nahas, Hackson are among that lot and they to cop their deserved criticism.

I don't think anyone is disputing what Edwards did in the back half was great work, people are disputing whether he can back it up more consistently. After 7 yrs in the system thats what u would expect.

The coaching seem to think he is doing something good but hey they also think Hackson is doing something great too. They are not always right. Time will tell
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 12, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
edwards is a damn good player but u morons who live behind computers have nfi

well done titch keep sticking it right up them

Edited: no need to resort to abusing any poster simply because they don't agree with you, make your point without the cheap snipe
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 12, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
no need to get abusive pal, just telling it how it is IMO

IIRC it was u who said Browne will be a gun, Tambling is better than Lids and Foley is rubbish, Post is better than Rance. Have i missed anything?



Actually I don't think if we have seen the best of Tambling, but I'm unsure if we ever will, sadly.

tambling will overtake deledio in the next 2-3 yrs wait and see

some of u guys have no idea, Tambling had his best yr last yr and this yr is playing a different role, he has put his body in and been very courageous and shown real hunger and desire for the pill. he will be a gun and is doing ok, he just need better hep orund him


or my personal favourite

I still believe that Blingers has been a victim of poor development!
Had the same oppotunity to develop as Lids....


wrong

deledio was protected by wallace  was hand gifted 1 nearly 2 b and f's, one was definitely richos!!!!!!
deledios best yr by a mile was this yr, tambling has been plagued by injuries  and was coached poohouse bywallace

look at jackson, under wallace he was going no where, under hardwick he is vital

king another and even jack has blossomed under dimma

once tambling is over his unjuries he will thrive playing in a team that has a coach!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 12, 2012, 10:30:33 AM
OMG
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 12, 2012, 10:35:25 AM

edwards is a damn good player but u morons who live behind computers have nfi

well done titch keep sticking it right up them

Agreed Username:. Had a great season and kicked some very important goals on a number of occasions. His ability to rip one through the posts from a heavily congested forward line is uncanny and his evasiveness and agility is of an elite level IMO.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 12, 2012, 01:36:06 PM
OMG

:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ox on September 12, 2012, 01:49:08 PM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 12, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
I know Houli's secret. Taboulli
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 12, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
OMG yes... Danny boy is obsessed .... He must be infatuated by me ... too  have the time to dig so deep into past posts lol  .. Someone needs a life..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 12, 2012, 06:09:18 PM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 12, 2012, 06:20:56 PM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

Reported for impersonating a mod  :police: :police:
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 12, 2012, 06:32:41 PM
Where the hell did my coach Glenn avatar go? Im upset. I am a mod and get back on topic.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 12, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on September 12, 2012, 09:39:15 PM
wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 12, 2012, 09:49:06 PM
wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
;)
Signed at a bargain price pre season. Much to the chagrin of some.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 13, 2012, 03:23:02 AM
wheres his contract at. :thumbsup
;)
Signed at a bargain price pre season. Much to the chagrin of some.

Good boy titch
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2012, 04:45:04 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.

"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 06:49:26 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 13, 2012, 06:51:29 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.


Warrior Poet  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2012, 06:59:52 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.


Warrior Poet  :clapping


:clapping

We'll be needing Shed to step up again next season. Consistency and 40 odd goals would be very handy. There's no use kicking 4.4 when it doesn't matter. We need guys like him, Nahas, Houli etc to play at a high level more often. We can't have the Chimp carrying us on his back forever.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 13, 2012, 07:10:55 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.

From where I sit WAT when Ox posts on how crap a player is its more often than not a one off or is done so bluntly I find it more humerous than serious. The exception is possibly his views on Foley, but people have taken him to task on that IIRC.

With your posts they are usually more persistent. For mine those sorts of posts are more open to and more likely to generate debate.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 07:24:36 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.

From where I sit WAT when Ox posts on how crap a player is its more often than not a one off or is done so bluntly I find it more humerous than serious. The exception is possibly his views on Foley, but people have taken him to task on that IIRC.

With your posts they are usually more persistent. For mine those sorts of posts are more open to and more likely to generate debate.

What like CD's posts about Schulz and Gus, but he doesn't seem to cop it.....Ox was also very persistent about Lids for a while but that was fine?

Honestly though I cant be stuffed, Edwards is Edwards that's about it for mine, going for a ride now..  :thumbsup:

Fair enough post though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2012, 07:51:23 AM
I have hardly posted about Gus in a long time. I love Schulzy and my posts on him are about how good he has become. Of course I am Coach and I'm nearly always right too. If I was constantly being negative then I'd cop it :) We all get some poo when we deserve it
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 07:55:13 AM
I have hardly posted about Gus in a long time. I love Schulzy and my posts on him are about how good he has become. Of course I am Coach and I'm nearly always right too. If I was constantly being negative then I'd cop it :) We all get some poo when we deserve it

Just an example, not having a go. This is what gets me though, I am not constantly negative about Edwards, I have complimented him when he has done well. I have a shot at him when plays crap maybe that's why it seems like I am always so negative towards him..:whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2012, 07:56:18 AM
You know I love you mate. We're all Tigers hoping for the same thing.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 07:58:56 AM
You know I love you mate. We're all Tigers hoping for the same thing.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 13, 2012, 08:12:18 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.

"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol

you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 13, 2012, 08:14:49 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.

"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol

you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..


"Post is better than Rance"
"Tambo is a future brownlow winner"
"Dimma knows and your all knobs. Tambling playing role and Dimma happy"

Hand in your badge, mate. That is pathetic. :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 13, 2012, 08:31:29 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?

as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.

most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.

If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.

Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 13, 2012, 08:59:14 AM
Probably shouldn't say others have no idea when you've made many posts like the Tambling ones. Post better than Rance springs to mind. That's cool though, it's your opinion. We just don't need to get so abusive over this stuff.

the great maurice rioli said tambling was the best young talent he has ever seen and would be the best player of all time, RIP mr magic

and my god have you talked some crap on here lol

Well, he was very wrong then, wasn't he?

Haven't spoken any crap, I am a truth slayer. The greatest poster any forum has seen. My Jay Schulz call has me in the good books forever. Questioning me is like spitting in the face of your favourite Italian hero.

"Tambo is having a brownlow year, Dimma knows his role ur all just nuffers" LMFAO :lol

you should be questioning yourself as many of your posts are fos fluff full of your own hot air ..


"Post is better than Rance"
"Tambo is a future brownlow winner"
"Dimma knows and your all knobs. Tambling playing role and Dimma happy"

Hand in your badge, mate. That is pathetic. :lol

Coach, what is your Twitter ID? I want to follow you to the ends of the earth.... Mesmerizing stuff! :bow
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 13, 2012, 09:02:08 AM
@greenbeanbag
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 09:04:04 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?

as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.

most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.

If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.

Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.

Oh bla bla bla, don't reply to my posts if you don't like name calling, fool.

You are so contradictory, freedom of speech unless it's me or my comments about Edwards.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 13, 2012, 09:06:47 AM
So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.

I disagree with Ox too FWIW. 14 games? Absolute BS.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 13, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
too late you weak piece of poo

Stuffing gutless

Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free.  :-*
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 13, 2012, 09:14:39 AM
Edwards takes 14 games to find form.
The mystery is how he holds his spot until he does

So why don't some of you have a go at Ox's post, he is more or less saying the same as me.

al, gerks, MM.... stuffing gutless. BTW MM, go back to the start wherre I backed him in, the problem is that you and a couple of other fools OVERATE him.

Again when I post weak prick dogs come out. Some on this forum......gutless keyboard stuffers.
are you capable of disagreeing with someone without resorting to name calling?

as pointed out, ox's is a one off post not like a dog with a bone.

most of your posts about edwards, or anyone elese for that manner i now let go, but when i see something I feel that is plain stupid or contradictory then sometimes i have my say.

If you cant handle people having a differing view or having a dig for posting utter crap just to hang it on a player you don't like, then don't put your views out for people to read.

Bottom line is its a public forum, where anyone is entitled to sprout their opinion, and anyone else is entitled to sprout their views on that opinion. Its the same for everyone, but not everyone resorts to name calling to those that have a differing view.

Oh bla bla bla, don't reply to my posts if you don't like name calling, fool.

You are so contradictory, freedom of speech unless it's me or my comments about Edwards.
No worries BA baracas.
Care to point out where I said you can't comment about edwards?
Huh?
Quote it if you want

Is this the only part of your life where people disagree with you, or do you react like this in the real world to anyone that dares to have a differing opinion?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 13, 2012, 09:23:29 AM
@greenbeanbag

Is that Tony Greenbeanbag?  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on September 13, 2012, 09:51:04 AM

Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free.  :-*

This joint needs a like button
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 13, 2012, 10:35:26 AM
too late you weak piece of poo

Stuffing gutless

 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 13, 2012, 10:39:54 AM

Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free.  :-*

This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod.  :thumbsup

Get it done, Mods!  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 13, 2012, 11:38:52 AM

Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free.  :-*

This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod.  :thumbsup

Get it done, Mods!  :clapping

I'm pretty sure there is a whole Thread about Post, and there aint many Likes :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 13, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
Yesss Big Man! The poet warrior speaks and conquers  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
What a great day out there.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 13, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 13, 2012, 05:20:41 PM

Seriously, WGAF about a middle of the road player. Only at Richmond where the nuffers run free.  :-*

This joint needs a like button
I'm with Tony on this! We seriously need to install a Like post mod.  :thumbsup

Get it done, Mods!  :clapping

I'm pretty sure there is a whole Thread about Post, and there aint many Likes :shh

I like post, I'd like 8 posts
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 07:12:39 PM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 13, 2012, 07:32:02 PM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 13, 2012, 07:36:23 PM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.


 :lol... :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on September 13, 2012, 11:05:36 PM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.


 :lol... :wallywink

New low
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 06:20:06 AM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.


 :lol... :wallywink

New low

Dish it out....take it, if I was involved with a death I sure as hell wouldn't be giving out poo on a 2 bit forum.... :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 14, 2012, 06:53:33 AM
not for everyone...
but seeing your new signature just turned a crap day around.

That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink
yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.

Sorry to hear mate. Hope you're alright
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 14, 2012, 07:43:23 AM
actually, thinking with a clear head it is probably something I shouldn't have posted.

Seems as i did, I should disappoint WAT in saying that it was not anyone close, in fact it wasn't anyone I knew.

I was working a bloke I often work with onsite when he was informed his parents had been killed in a car crash. Poor bloke was devastated.

So while WAT's earlier buffoonery may have bought a smile to my face, I doubt old mate would get any solace if he knew that some insensitive, unthinking, insecure buffoon took delight it the situation.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 07:48:58 AM
actually, thinking with a clear head it is probably something I shouldn't have posted.

Seems as i did, I should disappoint WAT in saying that it was not anyone close, in fact it wasn't anyone I knew.

I was working a bloke I often work with onsite when he was informed his parents had been killed in a car crash. Poor bloke was devastated.

So while WAT's earlier buffoonery may have bought a smile to my face, I doubt old mate would get any solace if he knew that some insensitive, unthinking, insecure buffoon took delight it the situation.

Where did I say I delight in it...twisting my words yet again ......clown.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 14, 2012, 08:00:40 AM
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink



yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.


 :lol... :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 08:01:58 AM
That's your problem, you probably deserve crap days though... :wallywink



yeah, but its nice to know that amongst the death that you can always put a smile on my face.


 :lol... :wallywink

Still didn't answer my question....Go and spend some time with your mate.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 08:12:34 AM
Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 14, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.

And yet you think McGuane went alright and deserves another Contract :lol :lol
Your an awesome judge of Talent WAT, up there with Username and Jackstar ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 10:20:41 AM
Edwards.....pfft..just watching the Essaendon game again, he has been slung around like a rag doll, missed targets and the high hit on Monfries where he was reported......what a tossa.

And yet you think McGuane went alright and deserves another Contract :lol :lol
Your an awesome judge of Talent WAT, up there with Username and Jackstar ;D

Yeah your up there too mate dont worry about that.  :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 14, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 14, 2012, 10:31:57 AM
Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D

Champ.. :clapping

IYO...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 14, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
Realy? Least I can tell the difference between a compleat Dud and a guy who has some ability ;D

Champ.. :clapping

IYO...

Dick :clapping
IMO....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 06:15:06 AM
Please let me clear up a few things regarding my thoughts on Edwards;

When he joined the club I really thought we had picked up the next Milne, Krakour, Didak etc.. a player that would really amount to being somethig special. I didn't have the same thought over the years with Patto, Meyers and those types of players that have gone by the wayside.

I stuck by him, waiting, for about 4 years, hoping, backing him in, giving him another year, year after year after year, when others I might add had written him off after 2-3 years. Even this year I stuck by my words and kept my mouth shut until round one...well he wasnt much cop in that game was he.

I do not hate him as I do not hate anyone, it's not in my nature (even al and TFT.. :thumbsup). But to have a good and thats all it was, a good year after 6 years in my opinion does not mean he has proven himself. 8th in the B&F, does it really mean that much for one year out of 6, it shows his inconsistency again. Ok, he had a good year again in 2010, so 2 good years in 6. Morris has played noe year with us and finished higher, Grigg and Houli finished higher and they have only just joined us. I am talking about the new players abouve him, not the older players below him either, thats not mu point.

Players like Riewoldt, Foley, Rance, Deledio but to name a few have had better years than Edwards and they have copped it in the past and some still cop more flak than Edwards.

I have also said at the start of every year "I HOPE HE MAKES IT AND I HOPE HE PROVES ME WRONG"!!!! But in all honesty he hasn't. Will he, who knows, but I have been asking for it and it still hasn't happened. He should be a player that other coaches think before the game...gee who the hell are we going to put on Edwards...I bet they dont. He is not a hard player to stop, look at the recent finals games, there isn't a player in any of those teams that gets thrown around like Edwards.

On my last break I watched about 6 replays of the games from this year as well as seeing one live (during the season of course). Now yes he can do some good things and yes he does set up goals, but not consistently. This is my point, he is not consistent, never has been and for all and sundry to get so upbeat when he kicked 4 I think against GWS....please. He also makes critical errors at critical times in most games. I don't think there has been a game I have seen where he hasn't turned the ball over with a basic errors, but hey there may of been a time, I just havent sen it.

Plenty of you have your whipping boys, Jackson, Gus, McGuane, Post, Foley, Dea, Rance, Grigg, Houli....long list isn't it!!! Mine is Edwards, but at least at the start of each season I say.."I HOPE HE MAKES IT AND PROVES ME WRONG", I say that because I mean it. But I am not so sure he will, especially after watching the finals games, he will need to put on about 10kg more.

In all honesty we should of traded him in 2010/11, but now we have have him and until he proves me wrong I will be sceptical. It dosen't matter how many times I have a go at him or the repedativness of my comments it is no different to the posters that carry on continuously about other players....or have a go at players like Riewold for winning the Coleman.

So I hope I have cleared it up for you all.....

Go Edwards.. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: camboon on September 23, 2012, 09:14:57 AM
Funny - Many commentaters - experts including the coaches said he was our most improved player this year - even lids and cotch said the at a club 80 night I attended.
I thought he was our best small forward this year !!!!

But everyone is en tilted to an opion!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 11:39:37 AM
Funny - Many commentaters - experts including the coaches said he was our most improved player this year - even lids and cotch said the at a club 80 night I attended.
I thought he was our best small forward this year !!!!

But everyone is en tilted to an opion!

Thats fine Camboon, but again, the "experts" and "coaches" are usually riduculed for making the same comments about other players so are we selective of what we want to hear or what we think of players?? :-\....Hardwick says the same about Jackson....and the forum goes mad...

Like you said my opinion only.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 23, 2012, 11:49:18 AM
Was our best small forward this year. Deserves his 2 year extension.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 12:04:09 PM
Was our best small forward this year. Deserves his 2 year extension.

We only had 3, King was injured and Nahas, well he didn't back up last year but he played different roles, so I suppose he was our best small forward.

Would of given him one year thoug, tuck played better and got one year..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 23, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
That's because Tucky is 30 odd. Geelong do the same with their old fellas. Offering one year to Edwards would be a massive kick in the guts to the bloke.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 12:27:19 PM
That's because Tucky is 30 odd. Geelong do the same with their old fellas. Offering one year to Edwards would be a massive kick in the guts to the bloke.

I know why they gave Tuck a year but he played better you can't deny that, I think a years deal to Tuck was a kick in the guts to him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 23, 2012, 12:37:11 PM
Matty Scarlett had a better season as well. If he wanted to play on Geelong wouldn't be offering more than 1 year. Edwards deserved two and Tucky (at his age) getting a 1 year deal is fine. We know Tuck will perform.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 23, 2012, 12:44:36 PM
Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 12:59:22 PM
Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.

"Other opinions count for little", then stop making comments on forums MM, FFS I am entitled to my comments the same as you are, so if my comments count for little then so do yours promoting him or bagging other players as you do. See this is what happens on this forum, if you have a view where others don't like it.....shut the stuff up basicaly.... :-\

Mate I thought my comments were fair. But if you don't stiff poo because your comments count for little....see.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 23, 2012, 01:01:43 PM
Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.

BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 23, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.

BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.

Not difficult I would have thought.
Don't rate Dan highly but my opinion matters little so long as Jackson's there.
Ultimately that's all we have on forums is opinions but Dimma's not reacting to our POV.
Not point getting as worked up about it as you do.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 23, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
did his job most weeks
dunno why fuss is about a middle tier player
suppose we could try and get this thread to 50 pages...

surely deserves his 2 yr extension if mcguane gets 1 yr
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
Edwards made the Club's 2013 calendar so if that's any guide he's not going anywhere. Mind you Nahas has too (Kingy missed out) and Edwards would be ahead of Robbie and Jake in the pecking order of our small forwards based on 2012. 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 23, 2012, 05:35:53 PM
Edwards made the Club's 2013 calendar so if that's any guide he's not going anywhere. Mind you Nahas has too (Kingy missed out) and Edwards would be ahead of Robbie and Jake in the pecking order of our small forwards based on 2012.

Is Robbies shot in the shower with the rude bits pixelated out like Ned Flanders when Homer does a video to recruit a new wife
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 24, 2012, 03:03:28 AM
They couldn't fit nahas rude bits on. The first third of his along in on 2013.

You have to wait till 14/15 for the whole thing.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on September 24, 2012, 05:03:18 AM
That's why nahas always falls over.... Either trips over his third leg or the weight of it drags him down
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2012, 05:53:43 AM
Edwards is appreciated by the coaching staff and that's all that really matters to this point. Other opinions count for little.
If he's upgraded in time great but for now he is easily entrenched in our best 22.

BTW Jackson is appreciated by the coaching staff too, but that doesnt stop you bagging him does it, so why not support Jackson......because you IYO don't believe he is that good.....please explain the difference between your Jackson view and my Edwards view, the principle not the players.

Not point getting as worked up about it as you do.

Because I have a few words on the subject apparently "I get worked up"...go read a few of your posts during the seson, during games, thats worked up....

I had my say on Edwards, if it made too much sense to you or your didn't like it then bad luck thats my say. But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong. Even when he misses goals and targets from 20meters of directly in front. Or when he kick the ball dicectly to an opposition player when we are streaming forward. Honestly even when he plays bad you still talk him up. Good player but inconsistent with brain fades, thats Edwards IMO.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 24, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong.

Seeing as you scope through my posts so closely WA Tiger, you'd also know that post is absolute crap.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
But at least I mention the good and the bad with Edwards, you only see one eye with Edwards and it's ridiculous, to you he is a superstar that does no wrong.

Seeing as you scope through my posts so closely WA Tiger, you'd also know that post is absolute crap.

It was from memory, but if I am wrong as you say then you must be right, I cant remember the last time you actually had a go at Edwards other than to say, his game was down today, thats about as much as you give him. So my post wasn't as crap as your posts on him when he plays crap!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on September 24, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
Nahas kicked 34 goals.  Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012. 

By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward.  (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out)    Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him.  Most improved player?  Best small forward?  When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.

Edwards is a dud.  He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over.  He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond.  We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on.  Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Danog on September 24, 2012, 11:08:11 AM
You realise Edwards only played 15 games as a forward?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 24, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
Nahas kicked 34 goals.  Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012. 

By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward.  (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out)    Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him.  Most improved player?  Best small forward?  When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.

Edwards is a dud.  He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over.  He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond.  We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on.  Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.

With respect, what an unmitigated pile of horse manure that post was.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Nahas kicked 34 goals.  Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012. 

By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward.  (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out)    Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him.  Most improved player?  Best small forward?  When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud.  He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over.  He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond.  We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on.  Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.

Well I agree with the areas I have highlighted, the rest, you are more than entitled to say if that IYO!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 24, 2012, 11:36:44 AM
Nahas kicked 34 goals.  Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012. 

By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward.  (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out)    Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him.  Most improved player?  Best small forward?  When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.

Edwards is a dud.  He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over.  He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond.  We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on.  Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.

With respect, what an unmitigated pile of horse manure that post was.
I concur with your respectful post.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 24, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
Nahas kicked 34 goals.  Read lots of comments about how ordinary he was in 2012. 

By contrast, his stick insect cousin, Shane Edwards who is in his sixth season of AFL produced a 29 goal effort as the third of fourth forward.  (ie. the forward with the worst defender on him week in week out)    Ellis who is in his first season and an inch short is 5kg heavier than him.  Most improved player?  Best small forward?  When you come from a base of being a massive dud and you put in a below par season, I guess that is a big improvement. But thats not anything to get excited about.
Edwards is a dud.  He does well against mediocre opposition when the season is over.  He epitomises everything that is wrong with Richmond.  We perform well against opposition clubs that are tanking towards the end of the season and then can't win a game at the start of the next season when the pressure is on.  Until Edwards can perform consistently under the most basic forms of pressure, suggestions that he is a good player are weed induced fantasies of insane Richmond supporters who have been starved of success.

Well I agree with the areas I have highlighted, the rest, you are more than entitled to say if that IYO!!
Everyone has an opinion, but that doesn't mean they aren't full of poo. Nahas better than Edwards, geez.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 24, 2012, 02:20:10 PM
You realise Edwards only played 15 games as a forward?

Rubbish.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2012, 02:44:09 PM
Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.

Career Stats:
        Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B        1st   Clear.   In50   R50    CP    UP    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       2.9       4.12       1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9                         3.4
2012:    20         17.8       2.5       2.8     29.26                2.6      2.7     0.2     8.6    8.7      1.5     

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 24, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
Edwards is without doubt the most valuable player in the team.........


.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 24, 2012, 02:47:28 PM
Edwards is without the most valuable player in the team.........


.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.

You'd think we were debating about Juddy.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 24, 2012, 03:48:42 PM
Edwards is without the most valuable player in the team.........


.......in terms of creating discussions on the interweb.

You'd think we were debating about Juddy.

Coach, Edwards is Juddy sans shoulder bandages so I can see your confusion.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2012, 04:06:10 PM
Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.

Career Stats:
        Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B        1st   Clear.   In50   R50    CP    UP    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       2.9       4.12       1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9                         3.4
2012:    20         17.8       2.5       2.8     29.26                2.6      2.7     0.2     8.6    8.7      1.5     

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109

So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 24, 2012, 04:10:19 PM
Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.

Career Stats:
        Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B        1st   Clear.   In50   R50    CP    UP    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       2.9       4.12       1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9                         3.4
2012:    20         17.8       2.5       2.8     29.26                2.6      2.7     0.2     8.6    8.7      1.5     

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109

So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...

Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 24, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book

or 50 page thread

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.

Career Stats:
        Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B        1st   Clear.   In50   R50    CP    UP    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       2.9       4.12       1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9                         3.4
2012:    20         17.8       2.5       2.8     29.26                2.6      2.7     0.2     8.6    8.7      1.5     

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109

So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...

Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.

Um sorry was that my question, yep sure have noticed it, same as I have noticed the poor kicking of Ellis, the non leading of Jack or the slowness of Post......anymore. The question was about Edwards though...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 24, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 24, 2012, 04:50:56 PM
surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book

or 50 page thread
:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 24, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
surprised edwards didn't go top ten in his draft, how this superstar slipped would make a good book

or 50 page thread
:lol

He slipped to 26. All clubs are guilty of passing on him. :help
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 24, 2012, 04:59:12 PM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 24, 2012, 05:05:45 PM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch

Only 13th?? WAT had him top 4 easily, cant believe he slipped that far back :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 24, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
if you disregard grahams 1 game, the red pontiac managed a pass mark with a top 4 finish though
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on September 24, 2012, 06:15:18 PM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch

Titch is WAT's bitch  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 24, 2012, 08:46:17 PM
Titch played 20 games this year averaging just under 18 disposals per game and kicked 29 goals for the season. He had 20 or more possies in 7 matches (3 of them against the top 4 sides) and kicked multiple goals in 10 games.

Career Stats:
        Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B        1st   Clear.   In50   R50    CP    UP    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       2.9       4.12       1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9                         3.4
2012:    20         17.8       2.5       2.8     29.26                2.6      2.7     0.2     8.6    8.7      1.5     

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109

So really the only difference was goals, I would like to see his clangers compared...

Jako's got everyone in the team covered in clangers have you checked that out on your video analysis WAT.

Um sorry was that my question, yep sure have noticed it, same as I have noticed the poor kicking of Ellis, the non leading of Jack or the slowness of Post......anymore. The question was about Edwards though...

Strueth your analysis misses nothing.....freaky
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 24, 2012, 09:01:18 PM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad
13th at the club. 12 blokes averaged more per game.
Epic fail by titch

Only 13th?? WAT had him top 4 easily, cant believe he slipped that far back :huh

He's got 100 vhs's and watches them on his lunch break. Can't be right.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: hammo1976 on September 25, 2012, 09:47:25 AM
EDWARDS was a find this year specially with king struggling and nahas form bit like a yo-yo he kicked goals and dished some off he is slippery. Just hope he hits the gym this year and gets some size on him surely the weights should be working after about 5 pre- seasons know.

GO U TIGERS
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 25, 2012, 10:12:16 AM
2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad

Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: rogerd3 on September 25, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
wonder if his card will be thrown on the table
come trade time.

mmm crows might be interested.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: unplugged on September 25, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Missing goals from 2m out probably don't count as clangers.  Kicking the ball constantly to the oppositions advantage doesn't count either.  He just puts the ball on his boot and hopes.  He would need 40 possessions a game to make an impact. 

Avoiding any form of physical contact doesn't come up as a stat either.  But he is the master of it.

This thread is good value.

2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad

Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 25, 2012, 01:12:14 PM
This thread is good value.

have to agree with this
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 25, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
Missing goals from 2m out probably don't count as clangers.  Kicking the ball constantly to the oppositions advantage doesn't count either.  He just puts the ball on his boot and hopes.  He would need 40 possessions a game to make an impact. 

Avoiding any form of physical contact doesn't come up as a stat either.  But he is the master of it.

This thread is good value.

2.15 clangers a game this year WAT

got no idea if that is good or bad

Not that bad I suupose, thought there would of been more actually, maybe he just did them all in the games I watched... ;D

 :thumbsup Geez mate we are out numbered here aren't we... :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 25, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
This thread is good value.

have to agree with this

:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on September 25, 2012, 01:49:00 PM
This thread is good value.

have to agree with this

Grow up....




Kidding. Keep up the good work. :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 25, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
:thumbsup Geez mate we are out numbered here aren't we... :lol

bill and ben
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 25, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
Dutchy and Markparsonsproject
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 25, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
 :lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 25, 2012, 02:18:45 PM
:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger!  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 25, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger!  ;D

 Oh dear :lol :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on September 25, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger!  ;D

 :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on September 25, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 25, 2012, 11:44:29 PM
;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 26, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
 :lol

Some funny stuff in here, good tonic after a long day!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on September 26, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
 :lol :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: 1965 on September 26, 2012, 02:32:54 PM
:lol

Some funny stuff in here, good tonic after a long day!

Your day finishes at 9:23am?

Must be a manager or a night shift worker.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on September 26, 2012, 02:43:13 PM
No he starts work at 9 then cracks it because he is bored.

On topic thanks guys.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on September 26, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
 :lol

Lol to both of you dills.   ;D

The day in question was actually the day before that consisted of a 3.00am start, a 1300km round trip (the return towing a 3tonne trailer), a rear tyre blow out on the ute at dusk on the edge of the Bruce Hwy, 5 cumulative driving hours lost to roadworks, and a 10.30pm arrival home.  A long day, so a laugh the next morning was a good tonic.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 27, 2012, 09:45:57 AM
:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger!  ;D

 Oh dear :lol :lol

How does it go....."sisters are doing it to....whoops for themselves" you two bitches are great laugh .... :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on September 27, 2012, 09:47:06 AM
:lol :thumbsup...Coach & Gerks......go to laugh, reminds me of Edwards when I do...hey MM.... ;)
Your replies remind me of Jayden Post. Ill directed with a complete lack of awareness of those around you who are screaming for quality disposal but all we get is clanger after clanger!  ;D

 Oh dear :lol :lol

How does it go....."sisters are doing it to....whoops for themselves" you two bitches are great laugh at value.... :lol

Clanger!!  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on September 27, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
snip back to the topic ppl
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on September 27, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Sugar Shane Sheddy Shedwards what a gun this bloke is

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Shane+Edwards+AFL+Rd+22+Richmond+v+Essendon+Lg9TFs_bVBml.jpg)

Yewwww!

(love the girl doing a cartwheel too)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on September 27, 2012, 05:03:17 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on October 25, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 25, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Happy Birthday Shane!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 25, 2012, 03:53:54 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 25, 2012, 03:55:07 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(

I thought we may of traded him.... :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on October 25, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(

I thought we may of traded him.... :lol

We aren't that lucky
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on October 25, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(

I thought we may of traded him.... :lol

We aren't that lucky

 :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on October 25, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(

I thought we may of traded him.... :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on October 25, 2012, 06:18:09 PM
Titch turns 24 today  :birthday

Thought you were bumping the thread to confirm that Titch's brother was joining him at Punt Road :(

I thought we may of traded him.... :lol

Tiger for life. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on October 25, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
GUN
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on October 26, 2012, 10:52:17 AM

(http://i49.tinypic.com/k996rc.jpg)

All you titch haters wait and see...2013 will be his year to truly shine.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 01, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on December 01, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D

(http://i49.tinypic.com/k996rc.jpg)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 01, 2012, 04:26:51 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on December 01, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
He's gonna kill it next year while Jackson will continue to be the spud who held the club to ransom for a new deal at the end of 2011
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on December 01, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
Jackson = Better, harder, bigger, tougher.......... ;D

How about we have a hungy on who finishes higher in the B&F - Edwards Shane vs Jackson Du...er..Dan
Proceeds go to fighting fund
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on December 01, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
edwards is a damn good player, much maligned
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on December 01, 2012, 07:11:10 PM
edwards is a damn good player, much maligned

Only by WAT ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 02, 2012, 06:50:35 AM
I just knew I could get this thread going again.... :lol :lol

I should really fire up about Edwards and bag the crap out of him, that should drag the real penut gallery into the fray and be worth about another 4 pages of response..... :rollin

God I hate the off season.... ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 02, 2012, 07:43:22 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 02, 2012, 08:37:41 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D

Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?

#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 02, 2012, 09:14:58 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger  yet???? ;D

Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?

#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat

Don't twist my words to fulfil your perverted mind, you quoted "not", but I did not even say that word.... :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 02, 2012, 09:31:03 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D

Why would you mind 'not' seeing photos of Edwards, but you want to compare?

#notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat

Don't twist my words to fulfil your perverted mind, you quoted "not", but I did not even say that word.... :wallywink

I think its inherent what you were trying to emphasise, but yeah, I probably misquoted you. Fair call.

......

There you go big guy.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 03, 2012, 08:40:38 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D

Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???

If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....

I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on December 03, 2012, 08:44:15 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D

Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???

If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....

I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!

I was offended ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 03, 2012, 08:50:08 AM
BTW, has anyone got any preseason photos of the weed, I have heard nothing or seen nothing of him at all, which I don't mind....

Has he gotten any bigger yet???? ;D

Now WP, I really have to ask, why is it that the word penis and even the context of how I used the word penis was removed from my post?? Honestly have we become that hypocritcal and sensitive???

If you go and read the Nahas thread my friend, well, my God, you have some editing to do there as the entire thread revolves around the size of his "PENIS"....and that is all I was refeering to, size difference between Edwards body and penis and it was in jest. My god the word is used every second of the day....

I just can't believe my non offensive post was removed......what is this forum coming too...Now get to work on the Nahas thread there is plenty to remove!!

I was offended ;D

 :lol :lol..TFT, in my dealings with you over the past few years mate NOTHING would offend you... :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on December 06, 2012, 10:42:05 PM
For fans of Titch  ;D, here is Colin Wisbey's profile of Edwards prior to him being drafted in 2006.


Shane Edwards (North Adelaide)

180/69 mid-age right foot (dual-sided) wing/utility.

*STYLE LIKE: Burgoynes / Surjan.

*MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 26

*PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Likely. Ready year 3.

- Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 10-15.

*HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): M / M-H / M

*TRADEMARK:

- Get ball, possibly inside traffic, then a very slick (probably short distance) give-off by hand, then immediately run on at pace.
- Bob up all over the ground with laudable but disconcerting frequency.
- Making something happen out of nothing
- Keen chase then keen tackle that may or may not stick.

*MAIN SELLING POINTS:

- Upside
- Endurance
- Intensity and work-rate in both directions.
- Slick feeds
- Versatility

*MAIN QUERY:

- Over-zealous running
- Kicking effectiveness.
- Tackling technique

*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:

- Skinny but frenetic, nimble, slick, innovative wing/utility. Incredible work-rate. Ranked mainly on upside based on what he has shown me in many bits and pieces over the last 2 years, rather than on a consistent body of work to date.

Much of this assessment might sound like he has a lot of things going against his chances of AFL. Actually, I really like him. He has been a constant improver and he has already played well in SANFL Seniors finals. I just reckon his output is capable of going from "handy" to "very good AFL" with a number of coachable tweaks and that he is currently raw in various ways but has exciting underlying potential. I've merely tried to focus on the things that you will be able to fairly confidently work on to help him go from "encouraging signs" to realising his real potential.

- I compared his style to the Burgoynes. That is somewhat misleading but he has some similar strengths and weaknesses and "make something out of nothing" capability. He is also very comparable to Jake Surjan in respect to work rate.

- I mentioned "innovative". Here's an example from '06. When the ball bounced shin-high to him (not on the run), he was going to be under some pressure as soon as he took control. Instead of taking possession and trying to quickly feed off, he deftly tapped the ball sideways with the outside of his right boot over onto the chest of a team-mate 3m away. I'm not necessarily agreeing that it was high percentage play but I mention it to highlight the sort of creative thinking and vision this kid possesses. (Incidentally, he then immediately took off downfield - More of that later but just to point out now that he is no lazy party-tricker).

- He has proved himself against men. Not only did he play 10 Seniors games (plus 8 Reserves games), he kicked at least 1 goal in the majority of games and was among North's best in the Seniors Prelim final. What impressed me most though was the fact that at that level and in finals games, he not only acquitted himself well generally but even as in First Dibs clearances in stints onball. For a not quite 18yo (at the time) who weighs just 69kg and is perhaps better known as a wing/forward, that's a decent indication of his AFL potential.

However, although that might make him sound plug 'n play, he is not. He is still very raw and, although he often does clever things, he plays an immature general game style (see below).

- Wasn't seen to best advantage in the '06 U18 Champs and his stats there don't read too impressively but he had just 53% TOG in total.

In fact, he doesn't often get the sort of stats his efforts morally merit. A large part of the reason is that his ethic is so good that he tries to run hard all over the ground to try to get to too many plays, chase too many opponents, and run too often in case an option or support might be needed. And he doesn't just cover ground in a "casual-pace cruising up the corridor" sense. He regularly bobs up literally in all areas of the ground within a couple of minutes, so hard does he push himself, and repeats that pattern most of the game every game. I don't often have cause to say this about a player but I would like to see him actually do less running. That is, ration himself so that when the ball comes into his area he is more frequently best prepared to seize the opportunity and have greater impact. He is currently inclined to be caught rushing to and from so many plays that he often tends to just catch or just miss a subsequent play or not have time to steady himself (mentally and physically). "Less haste, more speed".

He has terrific endurance but he will have to ration his petrol tickets for AFL or he'll be knackered by half-time. I'd rather the challenge of having to pull a hard-running kid back a bit than of having to inject some intensity into a lazy kid. I'm not overly concerned long term as it should addressable by coaching. I mention it mainly to explain why his stats and effectiveness can currently be less that flash over 100 minutes and to highlight a current aspect you will need to be address. In other respects, he is often footy smart (or at least instinctively quick-minded). He's not like a 12yo following the ball around aimlessly, as he is fairly likely to run to a position to defend or into space to create an option, not just towards the ball. It's mainly that he's too enthusiastic. He needs to become less frenetic and more impact-focussed.

That's the key to unlocking his real potential. I can't stress that enough. It impacts on many aspects of his game, including virtually all areas that I have identified in this assessment where he is currently less effective that he could be.

On the assumption you/he fixes this aspect, I upgraded him from "Possible" to "Likely"

Once you get him to run smarter, add a bit of meat on him, and address a couple of other very coachable aspects mentioned below, you'll likely have a good AFL player and quite possibly a terrific one, so untapped is his real potential due to his current over-enthusiastic running. and "freneticism". Not a Judd or McLeod but a "value plus" contributor with flair. At some time or other, I've seen him do something special in every single facit of the game.

- A year ago I might have been a bit concerned re injury durability. Except for a quad strain after the '06 Champs, he has stood up well this season though.

- I would draft him myself and would be prepared to part with a pick as early as my ranking if you thought it necessary (although it presumably won't be). I am confident he will be at least a good AFL player if you fix his main issue.

*DISPOSAL:

- Kicking can be mixed bag but overall I would rate it as "passable". He does some terrific kicks, including pinpoint passes but he duffs his share too. In particular, he sometimes tries to be too cute with dinky "nothing" kicks - and they sometimes coming unstuck.anyway. He needs to focus on getting higher hurt factor from his kicks. His kicking is better than it sometimes looked in the U18 Champs but it needs to become more reliable.

- Kicking style could use a bit of work. Like a lot of kids these days, his kicking action is too left arm dominant and swings his body 90 degrees anti-clockwise on contact. Costs him straight kick-through and proper COM transfer (hence depth and accuracy). His right arm does nothing. Also low take, early release and he is sometimes too stiff for a set shot for goal.

- Depth is at least fairly good but you could watch about 6 of his games without getting a chance to have a real handle on his depth. (He doesn't often kick for distance, preferring the 20-40m range).

- Genuinely dual-sided.

- Very dangerous around goals, especially close to goals. Very quick reflexes, quick to seize an opportunity and snap a goal out of nothing.

- Low kick to feed ratio.

- Handballs are usually accurate, often excellent, sometimes special and he can put power in them. Very quick hands. He is sometimes so slick under great pressure that you think he has fumbled the ball and was lucky it bounced off him into the hands of a nearby team-mate but, when you replay the incident frame by frame, you find he took the pill and fed it off in the same motion.

*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
(see above)

- In close, his decision-making and feeding off are usually reliable and often excellent.

Because he does so much frenetic running, he can find himself at times having to rush his situation assessment and decision-making when caught rushing to or from a play and especially if subsequently needing to kick. Fixable.

Even so, he very often displays poise and good/excellent vision and decision-making, even under great pressure.

- Very quick mind. It is sometimes too quick for U18 and even SANFL Seniors team-mates at times but it will be in its element at AFL tempo and class.

- Reads the play well but needs to make better use of that ability (see comments re too much running).

- Very good at reading the "pack" spill (including ruck contests) and especially dangerous close to goals in this respect.

- Very effective quick side-step under pressure. I'd like to see him use it more often. (See next point).

- Despite his quick hands and reliability of same, there are times when I would prefer him to try to create space for himself to buy a bit of time to perhaps size up an option of greater hurt factor. He doesn't try for cheap options. It's just that his total disposals are capable of having more impact than they currently do.

*HANDS:

- Usually clean, occasionally terrific.

*OVERHEAD MARKING:

- Not a big feature of his game but I've seen him take some very good contested marks. Hands are "usually OK" but he can be inclined to run under the ball or display some other misjudgement at time. Again, that is often when he is arriving a bit late.

*ATHLETICISM:

- Pace is "good". He is often quicker than his DC time of 3.06 might suggest but he is no Danyule Pearce. Pace will improve further once he gets more strength in his quads to give him more drive power. His running action is fairly good (although he overextends his plant foot on occasions, which doesn't allow him proper "heel"-toe flex and COM transference, hence costs him a bit of drive).

- Incredible endurance. Huge motor.

- Good leap.

- Currently Aaron Davey-like skinny but he looks to have a frame that will add "enough" weight.

*INTENSITY, ETHIC:

- Intensity and ethic are huge, especially for a guy with natural flair. Some players with his creative ability tend to only work in one direction and only when they can be bothered (eg Cupido). Not this boy. Tick accountability (to not just his own but also sundry opponents) and all the 1%er boxes. Runs hard both ways and without hesitation. That's good and not so good. (see above).

I can't recall any kid, even including Surjan who would be 2nd, who works on-field as relentlessly hard as Edwards.

- And he wins his own ball and is good one-on-one.

- Attacks the man with zeal, including front on. His tackles sometimes stick at U18 (.i.e. peer) level. Due to his light weight and technique, they often don't currently stick at SANFL Seniors level but physical pressuring will be a major Edwards' asset at AFL level once he bulks up and improves technique. At the moment he often tries to tackle too high up the torso and he is also not sufficiently conscious of the need to plant (brace) his own weight whenever possible and in particular try to first get closer to the opponent's body instead of reaching out as soon as he gets to within arm's length. (I don't mean that in a soft sense but in a "strive to get that extra half step closer" sense). His rate of effectiveness will improve dramatically once he concentrates on the technique improvements.

- When the opposition has the ball, he regularly makes a point of looking for, and manning up on, any free opponent.

*CONSISTENCY:

- Output can be up and down but effort is consistent and will be at AFL also. Possession-wise, he sometimes has big quarters but not often big 4-qtr games. That can, and will, change if/when his major flaw is addressed.

*AFL VERSATILITY:

- Only 180cm but likely to be very versatile. Has shown, even at SANFL Seniors level, a natural aptitude for First Dibs onball role. He will be possibly able to play that role at AFL but it will have to wait a fair while until he has bulked up enough. Meantime at least, his best role would be wing but he is well suited to HFF also. With more bulk, he would also make an excellent running defender, a la McLeod (but not as quick and more accountable). With his huge motor and ethic, he has the potential to be a run-wth.

- Most of the above paragraph is dependent on running energy expenditure (above).

*CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):
(see above)

- No other known factors.

*SOME STATS:

- Stats summary '06 U18 Champs:
Averaged 9 disposals and 1.0 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 12). (Tot TOG 53%).
Averaged 8 kicks per 20 disposals.
Kicks long vs short: 1-4 (2 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 5/11 (4.5 per 10 kicks), incl 2 clangers (1.8 per 10 kicks).
Ineff handballs: 4/16 (2.5 per 10 handballs), incl 1 clangers (0.6/10 hb).
Ineffective disposals: 9/27 (6.7 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.2 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 7/27 (5.2 per 20 disp). Uncontested marks: 3/27 (2.2 per 20 disp). HR+UM: 10/27 (7.4 per 20 disp).
Contested marks: 0 (0.0 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 4/27 (3.0 per 20 disp).
SP Clears: 2/27 (1.5 per 20 disp), incl 1 CBC (0.7/20 disp) and 0 other BU (0.0/20 disp).
Tackles: 5 (Avg 1.7 per game).

*OTHER STUFF:

- Injury-affected '05 and quad injury end of July '06.
10 Seniors games, 8 Reserves games '06. Some handy SANFL seniors form incl Prelim final.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4177.0
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 07, 2012, 04:05:23 AM
Edwards is smooth. Hands like diesel
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on December 07, 2012, 06:00:24 AM
For fans of Titch  ;D, here is Colin Wisbey's profile of Edwards prior to him being drafted in 2006.

Great reading thanks Cyclops. Unbelievable analysis, much of which has come to fruition still 6 years later.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 07, 2012, 07:14:42 AM
Is a damn good player
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on December 07, 2012, 07:51:01 AM
Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later

Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input

He was rubbish on a HBF


Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on December 07, 2012, 08:17:58 AM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on December 07, 2012, 09:10:47 AM
Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later

Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input

He was rubbish on a HBF

Agree with you Daniel, I've jumped on and off over the years but his last couple of seasons have been decent.

You forgot WAT - he's been singing about Edwards for years and years and years and years!  I'm just not sure what type of song though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on December 07, 2012, 09:22:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ekz_CSBVg  ?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 07, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
Aside from magic maybe x can't remember too many others singing his prizes a few years, all coming out of the woodwork now 6 yrs later

Let's see how he goes this year. I never was a fan but as a forward you can't complain with his input

He was rubbish on a HBF

Agree with you Daniel, I've jumped on and off over the years but his last couple of seasons have been decent.

You forgot WAT - he's been singing about Edwards for years and years and years and years!  I'm just not sure what type of song though.

Yep, for years and years and years and years and....FFS 6 years, have we honestly put up with him for that long to produce one good year.....OMFG! No wonder we haven't made the finals....... Lets hope with the decent players around him next year he will get better... :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on December 07, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
 :lol

But you still haven't told us what song you're singing.   ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on December 07, 2012, 09:30:44 AM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?

I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.

Here are a few of his thoughts:

2006 Draft

CATEGORY ONE - WILL BE TOP SHELF (roughly in the order of their upside but allowing for my level of confidence in them achieving it):


HOULI, Bachar (42 Essendon) [8]

Injury-prone (only major AFL query is durability) but smart, classy midfielder/HFF. Very good OHF and NHF (negative hurt factor). Not outside per se but, so far, has played the game on his own terms at his own pace, Predator style "off the pack" a la Shakleton,, and is on good terms with himself. Very footy-smart and potentially more athletic than his appearance/style have suggested. I've always suspected he treated underage footy with almost contempt. Will leave no stone unturned and I believe he will not only shine at AFL level but show us a more rounded game (re on-field work rate). Historical concerns re his endurance and pace but I am convinced that, when injury-free, he will have excellent endurance and quite good pace. Absolute bargain.

Others he rated as 'top shelf'..... Thorp, Sellar, Djerrkura, Albert Proud, Leroy Jetta  :lol

CATEGORY TWO - WILL BE AT LEAST GOOD

HISLOP, Tom (20 Essendon) [10]

Aggressive powerhouse. Plug n play. Versatile bullish onballer/flanker who can play small or above his height, has fairly good pace, takes no prisoners, always gives a contest and gets a lot of contested ball but currently doesn't look for, take or hit the right option often enough - too often kicks long instead of looking for short options (hand or foot). Other main concern AFL-wise might be over-aggression. Main selling points are physicality, competitiveness, courage, intensity, overhead, endurance, balance, strength, consistency. Trademarks are (1) Hardball get, then hurried disposal, (2) Crunch a pack or an opponent, perhaps taking a very strong mark that he has no right to take. Often clean, especially at ground level in "static" situations (although not "routinely: clean overall). If not for the somewhat high number of blind and other inaccurate kicks, I would rank him about #5. I love his competitiveness and aggression at both man and ball but he must start getting better return from his possession tally. Kicking was better in VFL than at U18. He is not a bad kick per se. Good depth and dual-sided. The issue is reliability. Kicking style needs work. He tilts to the left, which limits your error margin over a short distance, and his arm movements need work. IMHO it is important for both arms to work virtually in sync, helping your body stay balanced, both laterally and vertically. Hislop's arms are way out of synch and affect his centre-of-mass transfer and his ability to kick directly through the ball. Left arm often spends time bent at 90 degrees upwards then comes forward and across his body, while his right arm stays back, hangs down and does nothing. By the end of his kick he is often off-balance. Those faults should be fairly "easily" fixed and will make a big difference to his kicking reliability. Hislop and Armitage are similar types, age, great endurance and both are virtually plug 'n play. Both courageous hardnuts with good work rate and both with sub-optimal disposal. Hislop has more pace, is a bit physically stronger, and is the better kick. Hislop arguably has greater impact too. I would definitely take Hislop over Armitage, much as I admire Armitage. Jetta is X-factor vs risk but is a very quick, electrifying magician and is capable of being a quality user (not that he is yet). Hislop is none of those but he will deliver for you every time, whereas Jetta will switch on when it suits him. Jetta's pace, daring, flair and disposal makes him potentially much more of an impact player. Hislop is more a player who stops the opposition having impact through his hardness at man and ball but he too can turn a game. Likes to take opponents on and carry the ball and is often, although not routinely, judicious. Astute in corralling an opponent but usually prefers the bone-crunching tackle or bump. I have been impressed re how very switched on and intelligent he is at the 1/4, 3/4 huddles. With ever-increasing sophistication of team game plans, being able to be on the same page as the coach is more important than ever. Exceptionally strong overhead for his size, especially the big screamer from behind but can mark from any angle/position and attacks his marks / hits the pack like there's no tomorrow. He is on the slower end of the "quick midfielder" scale rather than the quicker end of the "slightly slowish midfielder" scale. Probably best suited to HBF or onball but, despite being only 184cm, is versatile enough to play anywhere down the flanks. Could be exposed by a very quick or very tall opponent but, even then, is likely to be at least mainly competitive, such is his ability to play tall yet also have enough pace and smarts to know where to run, how to cut angles and how to pressure both aerially and at ground level. Has the motor and competitiveness to become an excellent run-with (in time) and that's the role in which I possibly favour him.

EDWARDS, Shane (26 Richmond) [26]

Skinny but nimble, slick, innovative, goes hard. Ranked on upside

COLLARD, Clayton (31 Fremantle) [13]

Highly skilled midfielder/ flanker. Painfully shy and naive about the workload required for AFL so will need quality mentoring but definitely has AFL ability. Query re ability to adapt so is some risk but he has big upside, class and some X-factor. Other main selling points are X-factor, smarts / vision, clean hands, evasion, balance, overhead. Trademarks are (1) Vacuum the ball off the carpet on the run, take on and perhaps make a fool of the oncoming opponent, then dob a nice goal or set a team mate up to do so, (2) Screamer. He might lose concentration before getting to the last page of the team's play book but, for every hair he might make you tear out, he'll give you a moment where you will feel smug that he is on your list. Has mainly played outside roles (HFF) but I am confident he will furnish into an inside mid option in time if/when he can get his endurance up enough. I compare him in style somewhat to Tyson Edwards but I also think he will be able (in time) to play all the roles that Tyson has played. Has always lived in the shadow, on and off-field, of his best mate, Jetta, It's often "Jetta, the star footballer, and his mate Collard". If both play AFL and get the most out of themselves, I believe Jetta will be the better player but with Collard probably not far behind. There seems a tendency in recruiting circles to talk as if Jetta is Collard's better performed younger brother. However Collard was the better performed in WAFL Seniors, was also named in '06 WA Seniors (!) state squad, and Jetta is actually 5 months older. On sheer ability, I rate Collard's AFL potential as "Definite" and only one aspect made me downgrade him to "Likely", viz "How well and quickly is he likely to settle in and feel like he belongs?". My only other significantly concern is the O.P. he has been battling. His DC weight was listed as 86kg but his fighting weight would currently be around 80kg. He "couldn't" (?) keep himself in good condition while suffering O.P. late season. Career-wise, Collard and Jetta getting split up into different states may be the best thing for both boys. Clayton can stop living in Leroy's shadow and that will be a watershed point in his development. I would definitely have been prepared to draft him with a pick around my ranking if necessary (not that it ever would have been). Assuming he settles in reasonably OK (!!), I am confident Collard will make as big a splash as most of this draft's first rounders, perhaps ready to debut in '07.

GRIGG, Shaun (19 Carlton) [39]

Consistent tall mid but burns ball way too often by foot. I have identified basic flaws in his kicking technique which should be fixable. If I somehow knew for certain that such flaws would be identified and fixed, he'd be one of the first be in this category, would have earned a very much earlier ranking from me, and I would have confidently labelled him "definite AFL 200 gamer". Kicking is probably his only major flaw as he is otherwise a very attractive package. His current kicking reliability is almost a show-stopper though.

CATEGORY FIVE - These players caused me MUCH ANGST in assessing their AFL potential Every recruiter has some kids whose AFL potential he is just not confident in nailing, one way or the other, no matter how much he has studied them or due to lack of exposure. These are mine (in draft order):

CONNORS, Daniel (58 RIC) [32]

Very ordinary '05 but huge improver in '06. Vision, poise, clean hands. Can be very good both one-on-one and inside traffic. Can be very slick and left-field clever. Good (but often too ambitious) overhead (and has a significant reach advantage). Soso pace. Plays too much on his own terms. Current endurance is poor, I suspect due to a combination of bulking up 10kg in '06, lack of off-field application, and perhaps not naturally having a big tank. Hypothetically, if I had some guarantee he would work hard (especially off-field but also on-field), I might have included him in my "Will be at least good" category as his best is AFL. Given his current physical condition, application has to be questioned. (Oddly enough, despite all that, he occasionally displays the odd leadership trait). I like on-field arrogance but he overdoes it. He needs to play the percentages more, less millionairish and respect his limitations. By way of comparison, Connors' kicking, although he is no stranger to clangers, is miles better (overall reliability and best kicks) than Grigg's (whose kicking reliability and quality are both sub-standard). However, I identified major flaws in Grigg's kicking action that should be addressable, making Grigg a fairly attractive package overall and I can identify a number of AFL roles (especially onball) that I could see Griggs being able to fill. Even though Connors' best attributes are more AFL-impressive than Grigg's, I find it harder to identify either scope for Connors to lift his pace or, in particular, reasons to automatically assume he will develop good endurance and work ethic, so Connors as a total package (strengths and concerns) ultimately had less appeal to me due to concerns over "What AFL role can I, with any confidence(!), see him making his own?" (although he could at least pinch-hit in various roles forward, back and mid). That said, I would not be surprised if he makes AFL or even becomes quite good AFL. It's mainly up to him and how much he wants to make it. I do rate his best qualities (his best efforts reek of class) but the risks (or really the degree of speculation required) were too great for me to consider drafting him at my ranking number (which reflects his upside more than my confidence in him achieving it). However, he was a reasonable pick-up at #58, although I wouldn't have been personally keen to take on the risks, given other options available at that pick.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 07, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
:lol

But you still haven't told us what song you're singing.   ;D

 :thumbsup, ok I am supportive of every player, yes even Edwards, but for years his stupid mistakes and turnovers have done my head in so my song is I will support him but geez if he stuffs up look out.....if he gets it together I was right he is great..... :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on December 07, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
2005

Will be AT LEAST GOOD

OAKLEY-NICHOLLS, Jarrad [8] [Ric]

Silky tallish speedster. More Porsche than 4WD but has X-factor. Big upside.   :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 07, 2012, 09:42:28 AM
2005

Will be AT LEAST GOOD

OAKLEY-NICHOLLS, Jarrad [8] [Ric]

Silky tallish speedster. More Porsche than 4WD but has X-factor. Big upside.   :rollin

 :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on December 07, 2012, 09:46:22 AM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?

I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.

Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on December 07, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
Daniel Jackson (Oakleigh Chargers)

186/88 bottom-age right foot (has left if necessary) versatile midfielder / utility.

Not a basketballer, not a soccer player but ... a rower. A bloody rower! A rower though who took his oars out of the water for a while, stepped onto a TAC footy field and created his own waves almost immediately.

Will go later than I rank him, but perhaps still as early as round 2 though.

My unheralded hit pick of the future. The order of my rankings does essentially reflect the extent to which I fancy the players but I have made various concessions in the order to partly accommodate marketability and factors like gut feel speculation versus proven track record. You won't need to use pick 11 to get Jackson and he is basically unproven so conventional wisdom dictates he is not worth anything like pick 11. However, if I was at the draft table, the first pick I had after about pick 8 I would use on Jackson and not risk missing out on him later. A big call, especially for a rower newbie who averaged only 12 disposals in his 8 TAC games, but that's how confident I am that he has very serious AFL potential despite bugger-all footy background. Certainly ready by year 2, despite giving a head start to his peers and still being on the early part of the learning curve. Again despite those factors, it would not even surprise me if he played some games in year 1.

There was talk he may not nominate this year but I hope he does. He is very bottom-age and, as a footy newbie, a full year of TAC in '04 would help him learn the game at a very comfortable level. However, indications are that he would thrive in the environment of an AFL club and I think his learning would be better fast-tracked there.

*STYLE LIKE: Voss  :lol

*TRADEMARK:

- Run straight into oncoming traffic, clean hands gather on the move inside the traffic, show great balance and poise, spot quickly then long accurate, powerful feed out the other side of the traffic.  :lol

*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:

I shudder to think how good this kid would have been by now had he always been a footballer. He strikes me as a natural.  :lol

He is one of those kids who could probably turn his hand to just about any sport and make a fist of it. As it happens he is also a high jump champ.

Athletically, physically and mentally, he brings to footy the following:-

- Great leap. In terms of DC tests, I focus on a kid's best running jump on his preferred take-off leg. Jackson beat 73% of the 168 DC/SS players tested.

- Genuine pace in a power, balanced-in-the-run, glide over the turf style. Beat 93% of DC/SS kids in the 5m test and 79% in the 20m.

- Willingness to push himself. Beat 79% in the Beep test.

- Body shape. Has a very good build and size already. Powerful (as you would expect from a strong rower). 186cm and 88kg, And even his first AFL pre-season will improve it further. His skin-fold reading only beat 24% of the DC/SS participants
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on December 07, 2012, 10:02:51 AM
Jacko is still learning the game. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dice on December 07, 2012, 10:21:47 AM
As it happens he is also a high jump champ.

Athletically, physically and mentally, he brings to footy the following:-

- Great leap.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wAxDMfEGhoY/TSPwVvmmCPI/AAAAAAAAAYk/EVziTMTini0/s400/Not%2BSure%2Bif%2Bserious.jpg)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on December 08, 2012, 02:02:43 PM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?

I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.

Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on December 08, 2012, 06:35:35 PM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?

I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.

Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
Tigers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on December 09, 2012, 10:43:00 AM
pretty good assessment there.
who is Colin Wiseby? it reads like its a recruiters report?

I think he used to do phantom drafts before they were cool. He apparently got caned by a lot of people on forums and went into hiding.

Shame. Few(none) will get them all right. I enjoy his thoughts just the same.
He did get sick of the criticism but I believe he started being an actual recruiter for an AFL club which stopped him posting his phantom drafts once and for all.
Tigers

Nah I'm wrong. I got Wiseby and Weaver mixed up. Weaver is the Tiger supporter who now works for Collingwood.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on December 09, 2012, 12:06:38 PM
At Collingwood now?  He did originally go to the Eagles.  Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on December 09, 2012, 12:11:57 PM
*does Google search*

A guy who used to post on Tiger-Talk and Big Footy who I'm sure many will know or know of - Damien Streets (Weaver) posted a theory a number of years ago about midfielders and he used the descriptor "overflowing hamburger".  He said that like a hamburger - you keep adding ingredients, it starts to hang out the sides until it overflows past the edges of the bun and you can't keep it contained within the bun no matter what you try - the key to a successful team was to stack your midfield with as many good mids as you could get, the more the better, as no opposition could counter a team full of good mids.  He acknowledged the importance of key position players but said the overriding factor was the quality and quantity of mids.  He quoted all of the recent successful teams (he posted this years ago but his theory has held true since) and each one had a midfield that met this criteria.  This is what we are building now and I'm sure it is why the club concentrated more heavily on drafting mids in the early TW/GM years before 'filling in the blanks' over the last couple of years.  I (and many others) have a lot of respect for Damien's opinions and views (he is a very astute judge of draft candidates), and he has since been employed in the footy department of a rival club (hence his disappearance from the forums) so it points to the value some in the industry place on his opinion and knowledge.  I think we will continue to see our hamburger overflow this year and the results will speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on December 09, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
At Collingwood now?  He did originally go to the Eagles.  Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.

Who knows? I wouldn't trust my info, I seem to be very confused. Collingwood is what I heard but I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on December 09, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
At Collingwood now?  He did originally go to the Eagles.  Damien Streets is his name and it was him that originally espoused the "overflowing hamburger" theory about midfields that I have posted about on here a couple of times.

Who knows? I wouldn't trust my info, I seem to be very confused. Collingwood is what I heard but I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.

You could well be right, I haven't heard much of him at all in recent years.  He basically went 'underground' from posting on forums after he was employed (and rightly so) so he could be anywhere.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on December 09, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Surely Streets had some role in a decent footy club before he went to the AFL. Never heard of a random on the internet getting a recruiting gig because of stuff they write on Big Footy ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on December 09, 2012, 06:35:01 PM
Dunno Coach, I've never met him personally but he was the originator of one of the first fan forums from any club - tiger-talk - back in March '96 and was very active in there until he went west.  I think he might have also been a Mod on BF but someone who reads there might be able to confirm that.  He was certainly very respected in footy circles by many who interacted with the forums but what experience he had outside of that I really don't know.  It's not beyond the realms though to apply for a job and get an interview despite a lack of 'classical' experience - he might have been able to win the gig through sheer depth of knowledge and/or insights.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on December 09, 2012, 07:48:35 PM
He's done well for himself either way.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on December 09, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
on edwards
ive been a constant critic ever since we drafted him.
ive based as usual all criticisms on strengths weakneses and performance.
thing is when one criticices him you a hater when one praises him your a ship jumper.
for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them  hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.

based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.

what do we make of it if he reverts back to what has been the norm and that is below standard . i cannot say with any sort of confidence that this wont happen.
what do we say if he continues on from the 12 or so games from this yr. maybe we can say hallelujah it looks like hes found some real consistency of performance and finally taken the next step.

to me what is overlooked is a 180cm sml player who has his limitations by the way is still being questioned over if hes going to be good enough after 6 yrs in the system.

i liked his last 12 or so games i really hope he can finally string some consitency together i really hope the gap from shizen to good continues to narrow.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on December 09, 2012, 11:05:18 PM
Yep pretty sure Weaver works at collingwood, the work he put into his phantom drafts and his obvious passion and knowledge got him the gig. Lucky bastard but good on him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on December 09, 2012, 11:11:03 PM
if he does its only a minor role (assistant in WA or SA?). The colonwoood site gives a fair list of recruiting staff and his name isn't on it
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on December 10, 2012, 10:10:26 AM
for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them  hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.

based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.

2 of his past 3 seasons (10,12) by your own admission have been pretty good. In 2011 he was curtailed by a serious shoulder injury and he dropped away.
He's now well entrenched in the best 22 but no doubt he could improve further. I think he can too.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on December 10, 2012, 01:53:34 PM
for me overall shane edwards has been disappointing overall. hes had two seasons where for large chunks of them  hes showed that just maybe he is a afl player. one of those seasons was this yr.

based on his strengths weakness and overall performances after 6yrs i cannot for the life of me back him in the ball is in his court he needs to show he can consistenly play good footy and the gap between shizen and good has narrowed. for a sml i would have expected this to happen 3 yrs ago.

2 of his past 3 seasons (10,12) by your own admission have been pretty good. In 2011 he was curtailed by a serious shoulder injury and he dropped away.
He's now well entrenched in the best 22 but no doubt he could improve further. I think he can too.

I agree Magic. He has definitely made inroads into bulking up, his kicking improved substantially in the second half of last season and I am confident he will continue to rise up the ranks in 2013.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on December 10, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
Now that Edwards has moved into top 4 in the B&F contention, shed his whipping boy disguise, and become the superstar we all knew he secretly was, will the featherweight champion Andy Collins be brought back into the fold via the rookie draft so he can be joyously whipped by thy horny nuff nuff brethren while we laugh at carltank?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tiga on December 10, 2012, 02:09:45 PM
Now that Edwards has moved into top 4 in the B&F contention, shed his whipping boy disguise, and become the superstar we all knew he secretly was, will the featherweight champion Andy Collins be brought back into the fold via the rookie draft so he can be joyously whipped by thy horny nuff nuff brethren while we laugh at carltank?

gerks I think We'll need a bigger boat!  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on December 10, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
 :lol......
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2013, 08:39:09 AM
Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....

Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.

If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o

Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on January 27, 2013, 08:41:02 AM
And best of all WAT he has you to thank for that if he does
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2013, 08:48:16 AM
And best of all WAT he has you to thank for that if he does

Can't even be positive and post constructive comments without a stupid comment in return from the forum clown.....shouldn't expect anymore from you though Pluck..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on January 27, 2013, 09:09:46 AM
Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....

Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.

If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o

Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers

Where's WAT and how did you hack his account?

 ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 27, 2013, 09:11:55 AM
Good to see you coming round WAT.  8)

Edwards is on the up. No looking back from here.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on January 27, 2013, 09:13:52 AM
He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 27, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year

Maybe. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on January 27, 2013, 09:42:23 AM
can assure u all he will have a better year than foley and nahas
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year

No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!

Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2013, 12:38:29 PM
Been having a bit of think about it lately and you know what me old mate might just put one in this year....

Over the past few weeks I have been wondering where he can best fit the team, be dangerous, be a match winner and really become a player that other teams need to watch.

If we can play him forward of the centre all year, all year, and very close to goal he may really shine. While he had a good year last year I think this year, going in after two pre-seasons uninjured, he may just become a player.... :o

Here's hoping anyway.. :gotigers

Where's WAT and how did you hack his account?

 ;D

 :lol...all jokes aside, like I said, I have thougt about it very hard over the past few weeks....also looked at countless replays when at home...

I am on the wagon... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on January 27, 2013, 12:39:31 PM
He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year

No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!

Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.

To be fair to WAT, he was asked to put a block on Shed banter pre season last year and did, from memory it only lasted until the 5 minute mark of the 1st qtr of round 1  match but he was a man if his word  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on January 27, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
He is just hedging his bets cause he knows he will look like a fool when Shed blitzes it this year

No I am not fool, go back to last year and the year before and the year before...always wanted and want to see him make it, always said it!!!!!

Go troll somewhere else..forum clown.

To be fair to WAT, he was asked to put a block on Shed banter pre season last year and did, from memory it only lasted until the 5 minute mark of the 1st qtr of round 1  match but he was a man if his word  :thumbsup

Yes thank you Y&B, you are right, thought it was the last quater though... ;D

Now, I will go the year without bagging him for no valid reason..... ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on January 27, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
:lol...all jokes aside, like I said, I have thougt about it very hard over the past few weeks....also looked at countless replays when at home...

I am on the wagon... :thumbsup

 :) :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on January 27, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
He's not going to get much better. He's always going to be a decent player capable of the odd quality game. Expect anything more and you'll be disappointed. Just appreciate that he's improved and at the very, very worst he adds good depth for the future
Title: Shane Edwards discovers his heritage about 80km from Alice Springs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on February 11, 2013, 03:35:52 AM
Richmond's Shane Edwards discovers his heritage about 80km from Alice Springs

    Sam Edmund
    From: Herald Sun
    February 11, 2013


THE bitumen lasts about 10 minutes as the road sweeps south from Alice Springs.

Then it's a vibrating combination of rocks, gravel and red dirt - interrupted by wild horses - before you get to Santa Teresa 80-odd kilometres down the road.

It takes an hour to get there, but for Shane Edwards it has taken a lot longer.

In fact, it has taken the Richmond forward all of his 24 years to truly arrive at this tiny Aboriginal settlement.

Edwards discovered little more than two weeks ago that his family heritage could be traced back to Santa Teresa, a town with nothing more than a store, school, health building and a sandy footy oval.

For Edwards, whose shyness prevented the Tigers and the AFL from becoming aware of his indigenous heritage for the first 18 months of his career, it is the latest piece in an emotional family puzzle he is piecing together with the help of his grandmother, Monica.

"It's just amazing, I can't believe how far back it goes now," Edwards said.

"Knowing what my grandmother had to do to find out where she came from. She's just done it through years and years of work. She was raised through the Catholic church and has just gone back to everyone she knew."

Edwards was born in Adelaide to parents Tara and Greg.

His grandmother Monica - on his mum's side - is indigenous and his great grandmother Elsie had lived in Santa Teresa before she and her brother were taken from their mum Annie (Edwards' great-great-grandmother).

All hail from the Arrernte tribe, one of the biggest in central Australia.

"They were taken down to Mt Gambier because they were half-caste," Edwards said.

"From there they went across to Adelaide. As long as I've known my grandmother she has lived in Salisbury (a suburb north-east of Adelaide)."

Edwards had been to Santa Teresa once before on a Richmond pre-season camp a few years ago.

But back then he was oblivious to his links to the area as he clowned around with teammates Dustin Martin and Kel Moore and the local kids.

It is why, during his second visit to the town last week, he quietly sneaked away for a precious moment of reflection and to take some photos.

"It was so much different this time," Edwards said.

"In one of the classrooms as soon as I said my great-grandmother's last name (Summerfield) the assistant principal recognised it like it was still around.

"I think that's amazing in any area to have a name still lingering.

"I loved saying, 'This is where I'm from'. If I don't, I've got no chance of finding out any more. I'm just lucky that I've got the opportunity to play for Richmond and to actually go to a place like Santa Teresa.

"My brother Kym, living in Adelaide, is just as curious as I am, but he doesn't get the opportunity to go."

Edwards was bestowed the honour of captaining Richmond against the Indigenous All-Stars in Alice Springs on Friday.

After the game, while his teammates let their hair down at Lasseters Hotel and Ca-sino, Edwards was in a separate room meeting 40 members of the extended family he never knew he had.

There were more than a few tears.

Belinda Duarte, director of Richmond's Korin Gamadji Institute at Punt Rd, was there - and has been there throughout Edwards' journey of discovery.

"The one thing people don't necessarily know about Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander communities is the depth that they want to connect with family given the issues around the stolen generation," Duarte said.

"For Shane, having that in his history and to go back on the weekend and meet his family was really special.

"Seeing him go through that and sharing that with him as an Aboriginal person, we collectively feel that - because it's a part of that connection to home.

"It's the history that we inherit and what I love about our people is seeing the immensity of love and welcome. I'm getting teary just speaking about it.

"Given our history it wasn't a choice for us to experience a disconnect from family, it was a consequence of government policy."

Edwards believes the urge to find out more about his family's past has been fuelled by a developing maturity and his status as Richmond's only indigenous player.

His family tree is growing before his eyes and he is growing with it.

"I just said to my family that I wanted to know the finer details about everything. I was getting really curious," Edwards said.

Edwards has come a long way from his early days in yellow and black, when most of his Richmond teammates did not even know he was indigenous.

He wasn't invited to indigenous training camps and was left off official AFL indigenous lists.

He even played in the Dreamtime game against Essendon without being recognised.

He has always been proud of his heritage, but said he "didn't really speak up".

"Apart from not having such a cultured upbringing and that fact that I was pretty shy coming into the system, I didn't really know how to bring it up," he said.

"I guess that shows how much the AFL has improved over the years since, and that was only seven years ago, when it comes to finding people lost in the system.

"Belinda found out and we just started talking. She was like, 'We've got to get you involved' and I was like, 'I want to be'. She was pretty surprised and a bit upset that it wasn't known.

"But I reckon all this has definitely matured me. Just the fact that I now know more about myself and more about my family.

"One side of my family is so pieced together, but this side, it's not until the last couple of years that I've found out about real places and people."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-shane-edwards-discovers-his-heritage-about-80km-from-alice-springs/story-fnelctok-1226574891488
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 11, 2013, 06:24:55 AM
Thats good to hear, I think it's important to know your heratige, in for a big year is our Shane.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 11, 2013, 04:47:48 PM
He played well the other night. One of our best few.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 11, 2013, 05:55:23 PM
He played well the other night. One of our best few.

Thats good to hear, thought he would of played for the All Stars though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on February 11, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Ruanaidh on February 11, 2013, 06:31:15 PM
Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
:lol....it's funny cause it's true.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 13, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
VIDEO: Titch in the Alice

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-12/edwards-in-alice
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on February 13, 2013, 02:00:18 PM
Jackson took his spot, hit up his brothers all night long
:lol....it's funny cause it's true.

Lol its going to be a long season watching him go round
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigers of Old on February 14, 2013, 05:50:02 AM
Great article. Shane is rated very highly internally at the club.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on February 14, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
Always showed ability, has just taken time to mature physically.  Number 10 is emerging from the vitriol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on February 14, 2013, 08:21:33 PM
Titch's profile page on the RFC website has him at 93kg. I don't think so  ;D.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/shane-edwards
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on February 15, 2013, 02:27:22 AM
Titch's profile page on the RFC website has him at 93kg. I don't think so  ;D.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/player-profile/shane-edwards

That Essendon diet.  :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 15, 2013, 05:44:12 AM
Thats good to hear, I think it's important to know your heratige, in for a big year is our Shane.. :thumbsup

Certainly is  :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 02, 2013, 10:05:53 AM
Just finished watching both NAB games and I am home for the game today....YAY

I think Shane is actually looking like a footballer now, he seems to of bulked up a bit upstairs. Only concern I have is he did try to get a bit fancy a couple of times and he tackling let him down. But in all honesty he did play well and it's only the first hit out. I will really be looking forward to him playing today and in round one!

Certainly looks more rounded as a footballer this year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on March 02, 2013, 10:19:24 AM
You forgot to put the end world tags around your post.  :shh [/world]
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 02, 2013, 11:22:09 AM
You forgot to put the end world tags around your post.  :shh [/world]

WTF... :huh :huh

Not baiting are you??????
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on March 02, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
You forgot to put the end world tags around your post.  :shh [/world]

WTF... :huh :huh

Not baiting are you??????

I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it. 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 02, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
You forgot to put the end world tags around your post.  :shh [/world]

WTF... :huh :huh

Not baiting are you??????

I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it.

Sorry.. :thumbsup and thanks.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on March 02, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
You forgot to put the end world tags around your post.  :shh [/world]

WTF... :huh :huh

Not baiting are you??????

I'm only joking. Credit to you for your post. Not many people are able to change their mind about a player and admit it.

Lets just wait until he has a few ordinary games before handing out the kudos
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 02, 2013, 01:02:03 PM
been a long time since he had an ordinary game... he is the quiet achiever and gets stuff all credit
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on March 18, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
VIDEO: Shane Edwards talks about the preseason post-Bulldogs game

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-03-18/preseason-round-4-edwards-post-match


Talented utility Shane Edwards is confident the hard-fought wins Richmond secured during the AFL’s pre-season series will produce a positive flow-on effect for the team going into the 2013 premiership season.

Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-18/ready-for-the-real-thing
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on March 18, 2013, 01:18:45 PM
lol @ Rance!  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Oiafi on March 18, 2013, 01:28:45 PM
lol @ Rance!  :lol

Doesn't everyone?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on March 25, 2013, 08:13:52 PM
Primed for a big year the Shed
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 25, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Primed for a big year the Shed

Must get in amongst the goals in round one, has the ability, needs to show up the carlscum indigenous players....

Go Shane!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on March 25, 2013, 08:34:50 PM
Just finished watching both NAB games and I am home for the game today....YAY

I think Shane is actually looking like a footballer now, he seems to of bulked up a bit upstairs. Only concern I have is he did try to get a bit fancy a couple of times and he tackling let him down. But in all honesty he did play well and it's only the first hit out. I will really be looking forward to him playing today and in round one!

Certainly looks more rounded as a footballer this year.

Did you see a game of football last season? He was easily in our top 10 players all year
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bateman on March 29, 2013, 03:23:20 PM

Edwards' hands in heavy traffic are elite ..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 29, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
Best hands since Greg Williams.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 30, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
Yes played ok the other night, great hands.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on March 30, 2013, 10:51:24 AM
This is not a new thing. He's always had elite hands.
Wasn't his best game but did a few good things, like others seemed to struggle a little in the last term.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on March 30, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
This is not a new thing. He's always had elite hands.
Wasn't his best game but did a few good things, like others seemed to struggle a little in the last term.

He was just like the others in the last MM, absolutely stuffed, they were spent.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 14, 2013, 04:13:36 PM

Edwards' hands in heavy traffic are elite ..

Joy to watch.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on April 14, 2013, 04:18:46 PM
had a cracker today
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2013, 04:29:18 PM
Best hands in the business
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 14, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
12 contested possession :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 14, 2013, 05:29:59 PM
While I agree, I still prefer him forward
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 14, 2013, 05:31:29 PM
Did it all today, won the ball, kicked goals, created them - brilliant
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 14, 2013, 11:08:52 PM
GUN... BECOMING A STAR
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 15, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 15, 2013, 09:59:17 AM
Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.

come on gimme a break a couple of unforced errors

cotch made a few but u r not complaining

facts are he is no1 for pressure acts in our team  had 22 touches 2 goals and is also leading our score involvements

edwards is vital to our team

admit it it what edwards is IN
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 15, 2013, 10:14:57 AM
Yes went very well again, made a couple of unforced errors but made up for it.

come on gimme a break a couple of unforced errors

cotch made a few but u r not complaining

facts are he is no1 for pressure acts in our team  had 22 touches 2 goals and is also leading our score involvements

edwards is vital to our team

admit it it what edwards is IN

WTF??? I was not having a crack, where was I complaining?? Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on April 15, 2013, 10:18:47 AM
 :lol strange. Didn't take WAT's post as a crack at all. Was a pretty accurate assessment. Cotch didn't do a Chris Mayne.  :lol :lol

WAT is well and truly on the Titch bandwagon.  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 15, 2013, 10:25:03 AM
:lol strange. Didn't take WAT's post as a crack at all. Was a pretty accurate assessment. Cotch didn't do a Chris Mayne.  :lol :lol

WAT is well and truly on the Titch bandwagon.  :clapping

 :thumbsup.....great hands yesterday too!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 15, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
GUN... BECOMING A STAR

He's getting closer to being a very very good player for us. more consistency over a longer period of time and some of us could be eating humble pie. He has improved out of sight and well done to him. Deserves credit for the improvement.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 15, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 15, 2013, 11:56:16 AM
been sayin it for years  :shh

nice of sheddsy to finally catch up  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 15, 2013, 10:59:09 PM
His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.

Sam Mitchell
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 16, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.

Sam Mitchell
Good call,But being Biased abit gets Edwards over the line. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 16, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Shane got Sam covered.

Quicker, lighter, faster, more agile, more aboriginal xfactor, swifter,  :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 16, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
His work in close with his hands is 2nd to none not only in our side,But in the whole comp.

Sam Mitchell
Good call,But being Biased abit gets Edwards over the line. ;D
:gotigers
Nothing wrong with coming second to Mitchell
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 16, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Shane got Sam covered.

Quicker, lighter, faster, more agile, more aboriginal xfactor, swifter,  :shh

Just on Aboriginal x factor. Would people call it racist if someone called it "white person consistency"?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 16, 2013, 04:29:31 PM
Shane Edwards is black enough to have x-factor like Goodes yet white enough to have Shane Mitchell '"white person consistency"'.

This may be the year he goes past Gibbs as the #1 South Australian from his draft pool.  :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 16, 2013, 04:50:05 PM
Bet the Crows would love to have him right now. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Bengal on April 16, 2013, 06:33:27 PM
i been on his wagon ever since he danced around a few in his 1st game weighing about 50kgs, was all over him when he kicked that goal baulking 3 players along the goal line against the Lions. 

Now reveling in the love for him by all   :cheers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on April 16, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
I remember watching his Dad play, and thinking gee I hope he has a son who one day gets drafted by Richmond, that's how long I've been on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Owl on April 16, 2013, 08:34:13 PM
I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school after a premonition that he was gonna be born and play for us and I worshipped that plasticine Sheddy like a mofo.  I even mixed in some protein powder into the playdough so he could put on some more muscle mass.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 16, 2013, 09:01:20 PM

I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school

That's a worry, that was my Form 6 year!    :help
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on April 16, 2013, 09:06:05 PM
I saw Sheds in a piece of toast once.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 16, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
I saw Sheds in a piece of toast once.

Did you keep the toast for resale value?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 16, 2013, 09:13:58 PM

I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school

That's a worry, that was my Form 6 year!    :help

Form 6, geez you must be old  ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 16, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
 :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on April 16, 2013, 09:28:56 PM
even i can call him an old fart  :lol

notice the birth year has been removed from the handle  :police:
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 16, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Hey, a bit of respect for your elders!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on April 16, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
I remember watching his Dad play, and thinking gee I hope he has a son who one day gets drafted by Richmond, that's how long I've been on the bandwagon.

I made him out of plasticine in 1975 at primary school after a premonition that he was gonna be born and play for us and I worshipped that plasticine Sheddy like a mofo.  I even mixed in some protein powder into the playdough so he could put on some more muscle mass.

Stuffing LMFAO
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 27, 2013, 06:53:04 AM
was our best last night :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 29, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
gunna give some credit where its due. played real well for the most part. only criticism and its a constant is the basic errors continue. just too many.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on April 29, 2013, 01:07:55 PM
He seems to be learning not to kick though which is even better when you have the hands like he does
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: JVT on April 29, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
His hands in close are superb, able to dish out passes that split open packs. Happened a number of times against Freo.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 05, 2013, 08:04:00 PM
 :bow
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 05, 2013, 08:20:38 PM
Probably one of the only ones that can hold his head up at the moment.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: dwaino on May 12, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
This bloke deserves a kudos. Last year stood out because he was playing forward and kicking goals. This year playing great and going under the radar since playing in the guts. Yesterday 21 possies, 14 contested at 66%. Eight clearances, pinged it inside 50 5 times and piled on 8 tackles. 9 clangers and a gave away a few frees but all part and parcel of the position but will only get cleaner as he spends more time there.

Eade mentioned a few weeks back that Edwards has gone up a level but isn't getting the notice due to the focus going into Cotchin, Deledio and Martin. Good to Edwards could keep it up yesterday without Cotchin in the side.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 12, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
Hands like silk.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2013, 10:58:35 AM
Still needs to work on his kicking, stop trying to do too much, and if there is one thing that i wish he would eradicate it's the over the head handballs. Looks great when it hits one of his teammates, problem is 80% of the time it goes to the opposition or gets paid a throw. Cut it out bro.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
Average 20 touches a game.

Undroppable
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on July 14, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
Bents isn't Grigg averaging about 20 touches too?..he seems to be bordering magoos
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2013, 06:12:52 PM
Shane Edwards > grigg
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on July 14, 2013, 11:29:28 PM
Edwards doesn't even average 20

20.7 > 19.3
Grigg > Edwards
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
Nup

Shane is vastly superior
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on July 14, 2013, 11:55:18 PM
But Grigg averages 20 touches, undroppable
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 15, 2013, 12:08:09 AM
Edwards Shane . Wins inside contested ball.

His hands are.magic and creative.

His speed and smarts is vital.

Grigg was the sub indicateing he is viewed behind stewards according to he coach.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 24, 2013, 04:33:07 PM
I am surprised at the weight of opinion Shane is not best 22.

Given his handball ability, agility / elusiveness and the only real forward pocket in the team I think he is vital.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on July 24, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
People have Issues  with his form not his ability. You seem to have trouble processing that.
I wanted him dropped last week because I thought he was out of form. He Was better on the weekend, as was Grigg, so if I were to drop anyone for Tuck it would be Biccy.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on July 24, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
His form had dropped to the point where his name would have come up at selection committee for the first time in a long time. Better game yes and something to build on for next week but again a couple of howlers by foot. He should narrow down his kicking repertoire  to long field kicks only, let's face it his short passes are either inaccurate or get picked off. I thought one of his strengths this year was that he accepted his limitations as a player and concentrated on areas that he is good at-handballing, harassing, stealing the pill and zipping away like his sars is on fire. A couple of 2-3 goal games leading into the finals would be nice too. 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on July 24, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
If we make the finals that is  8)
Title: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 28, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
Flying under the radar this year for all the wrong reasons....

Not in our worst but nearly always not in our top 12-15. 

Gee whiz bloke any chance of impacting a game for christs sake?
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: Chuck17 on July 28, 2013, 07:48:34 PM
Trade him for a tall backman
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 28, 2013, 07:53:15 PM
was terrible today

Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: WA Tiger on July 28, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: Danog on July 28, 2013, 07:55:37 PM
Flying under the radar this year for all the wrong reasons....

Not in our worst but nearly always not in our top 12-15. 

Gee whiz bloke any chance of impacting a game for christs sake?

Has had a very bad past month.  Was much better earlier in the year.
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: torch on July 28, 2013, 07:56:17 PM
He is a small forward!

NOT A MIDFIELDER HARDWICK!
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: Golfprotiger on July 28, 2013, 08:00:07 PM
He is a small forward!

NOT A MIDFIELDER HARDWICK!

X2 :clapping
Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 28, 2013, 08:03:21 PM
Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol

Consider this thread an invitation/reprieve to be constructive
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on July 28, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career

has done absolutely nothing for 2 months

Title: Re: The spectacularly mediocre Shane Edwards
Post by: WA Tiger on July 29, 2013, 07:18:17 AM
Just not going to get involved with this thread, said I would back him in this year.....oh the pain..... :lol

Consider this thread an invitation/reprieve to be constructive

Ok, so I used to have a real go at Shane because he wasn't consistent, made too many unforced errors and looked lost in just about every position he played in, he was also easily thrown/bumped/outworked off the ball. He has been like this for most of his career bar one season, the season before he was injured.

Bring on 2013.....He has played very well up until about 3-4 rounds ago when he has started top revert back to the old Shane, inconsistent, clumsy, looking out of place in an AFL side..This is why I made the comment years ago that he would just not make it and that he is only in the side to fill the numbers.

Players like Vlastuin, Conca, Ellis, Arnott, Houli, Chaplin, Etc.. have joined the club and have had more of an impact.

I think Shane has reached his peak, if we can call it that.

I think if we were offered a trade at the end of the year for Shane and he agreed to it, I think it's best for both parties if they parted ways. Shane's "quick hands" is all he has going for him at the moment and even that is letting him down now. :-\

He either needs to lift his game or be dropped to Coburg to try and reinvent himself as a crumbing forward (where he should be left)or a decision needs to be made at the end of the year.

This is merely my observation.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 11, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career

has done absolutely nothing for 2 months

Better footballer than Nahas.

Edwards guile, ability, elusiveness and Aboriginesness will come in handy down the track.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2013, 02:06:04 PM
back to his brilliant best, much like the first 4 years of his career

has done absolutely nothing for 2 months

Better footballer than Nahas.

Edwards guile, ability, elusiveness and Aboriginesness will come in handy down the track.

What the hell does his culture have to do with it???????? :huh :huh :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 11, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
just pulling your leg

 :cheers
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2013, 02:27:44 PM
just pulling your leg

 :cheers

 ;)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 29, 2013, 04:08:20 PM
Indigenous International Rules squad  :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 08, 2013, 11:58:33 PM
what a rubbish footballer this bloke is.

what 15 good games in his career.

wish he would stuff off back where he came from. up in alice go play local footy with his cousin aaron davey.

2 poo Cidiots in the same team.

perfect

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on September 09, 2013, 12:52:51 AM
i think the criticisms of edwards has not been that he cant play some decent footy at a level that is beneficial to the team, but his ability to maintain that level.
had good 14 or so games last yr and started okay this yr.
hes dropped off to what does seem to be his consistent  level and its not good enough. ive always had issues to varying degrees  with his size pace and skills. its these things that keep on coming back and stopping him from playing at the required level.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on September 24, 2013, 10:48:10 PM
So where does everyone sit with Shane now? Tradable??

Will he get any better? Have we seen his best? What happened to him as he was travelling pretty good early.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on September 24, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
like i said last year, year before, and year before that

Trade

cant play in the midfield, hardly kicks goals so what good is he

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 24, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Darth Tiger on September 24, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
Trade
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Andyy on September 24, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
Trade or small forward. Midfield is not the place for him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Golfprotiger on September 25, 2013, 08:00:41 AM
He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.

Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 16, 2014, 09:54:00 AM
Shane seems to be getting off lightly.......again. :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 16, 2014, 12:12:21 PM
Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.
Been in the system 7 seasons.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: torch on February 16, 2014, 12:21:17 PM
He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.

Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward

x 2

He is a small forward Hardwick!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 16, 2014, 12:24:55 PM
He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.

Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward


x 2

He is a small forward Hardwick!

But he did poo when he played there the other night. I think with the inclusion of a few players this year Shane will be found out. Trade at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 16, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
You clearly have a low opinion of Edwards playing seniors for us and yet think him good enough to play at another club. Which one is it?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 16, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
You clearly have a low opinion of Edwards playing seniors for us and yet think him good enough to play at another club. Which one is it?

McGuane anyone???? No good at the RFC, although better than Edwards, someone will take him, I just hope we don't keep him the way he has gone about it for 7 stuffing years.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 16, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
We didn't trade McGuane - Brisbane weren't prepared to give anything up despite half their club walking out.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 16, 2014, 02:24:52 PM
We didn't trade McGuane - Brisbane weren't prepared to give anything up despite half their club walking out.

Yes I know that, I just think Shane has had enough chances, trade him or delist him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on February 16, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.

Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor  ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 16, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.

Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor  ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.
Not aboriginal enough?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 16, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on February 16, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.

Don't think Shane has X-factor?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on February 16, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.

Don't think Shane has X-factor?

It's more of a Y? factor with Shank.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on February 16, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
Not good enough goes missing and whilst has X factor it is not damaging enough.

Yet people are crying for an Aboriginal with X-factor  ::) and then will complain when he doesn't contribute enough.

What does he contribute enlighten us

Played 10 good games in 09 I think

Another 6 or 7 in 12

Rest have been average to say the least

Should have dumped his sorry Tambling weak arse a long time ago
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 16, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.

Don't think Shane has X-factor?

Maybe we should ask Simon Cowell?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 16, 2014, 08:06:41 PM
Funny how just about all teams have that X factor indigenous player.......other than us.

Don't think Shane has X-factor?
gotta agree. x factor would mean to me super skills and an ability to do the sublime at times. edwards has neither.
for me he had a really good period in 2012 for about 2/3 of a season. trouble is hes been unable to replicate the good form  either side of that period. which suggeste to me after 7yrs  it not the norm.
we have seen lots like him at richmond. we all know em well. the types who struggle for yrs then have a good yr or 18 months but cant sustain it and then slip back to normal which sees em become substandard again.
a simple assesment of actual strengths and weakness will give all and sundry a good guide of what players can sustain. unfortunately shane has never ticked a lot of the required boxes.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 16, 2014, 08:14:31 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 16, 2014, 08:29:43 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified

WAT has set such a high standard for Shane. Perhaps an unrealistic standard. Why can't people be content with the fact he may only be decent player in our best 22? Why does he need to be better than that? He had a good 2012 and I think posters such as WAT are expecting him to play to that level every game. I compare these posters to drug addicts. They reached such a good level of high once (Shane's 2012 form) and they want more. However, they rarely reach that high again despite using more and more of the drug. They begin to hate the drug and themselves but they just can't turn away from it. It's ruining their lives.

They need rehab.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 16, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands.  as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games.  hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.

hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good  ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song .   but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on February 16, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified

WAT has set such a high standard for Shane. Perhaps an unrealistic standard. Why can't people be content with the fact he may only be decent player in our best 22? Why does he need to be better than that? He had a good 2012 and I think posters such as WAT are expecting him to play to that level every game. I compare these posters to drug addicts. They reached such a good level of high once (Shane's 2012 form) and they want more. However, they rarely reach that high again despite using more and more of the drug. They begin to hate the drug and themselves but they just can't turn away from it. It's ruining their lives.

They need rehab.

That's a classic Coach post, unlike Shed you can always count on Coach
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 16, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands.  as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games.  hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.

hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good  ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song .   but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
you say it isnt hard to get better, yet he is constantly is in the top clearance winners for the club. So why are others not winning more clearances constantly?

as others have said, he aint no superstar, but to be constantly winning his fair share of clearances means he is earning his place, unless of course you think clearances are not important?

but then again, you seem to strive for a team of superstars.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 17, 2014, 09:01:08 AM
Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on February 17, 2014, 09:06:34 AM
Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh

Here here no one expects him to be a gun but to show 2 descent half seasons out of 7/8 is a rubbish return. He plays scared like Tambling

Al and his expert clearances statistic carries a lot of weight though

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 17, 2014, 09:13:35 AM
plays scared?

spoken like a true keyboard warrior who probably never won a hard ball in their life.

and yeah, clearances are meaningless.

much better to let the opposition get the clearance so you can then get your tackle count up, hey?

next thing you two will band together and tell us that you need to look away when marking the ball?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 17, 2014, 09:49:19 AM
Edwards sux! Most see it, just not the "experts" :whistle :huh

Here here no one expects him to be a gun but to show 2 descent half seasons out of 7/8 is a rubbish return. He plays scared like Tambling

Al and his expert clearances statistic carries a lot of weight though

 :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 17, 2014, 01:57:47 PM
on that we agree, it is rather funny.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on February 17, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
Shank doesn't play scared, he just plays stupid. He wouldn't try to do things beyond his abilities so often if he was crapping himself.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Andyy on February 17, 2014, 05:35:22 PM
Never thought of him as scared. Just no consistency. Could be an A-grader one day, C-grader the next.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on February 17, 2014, 05:42:34 PM
He's a VFL-level player with a one or two AFL-level attributes. Still think he'd be the ideal sub to bring on fresh when the opposition is starting to tire.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on February 17, 2014, 06:07:26 PM
He's a VFL-level player with a one or two AFL-level attributes. Still think he'd be the ideal sub to bring on fresh when the opposition is starting to tire.

Agreed although those attributes are pretty good - even at AFL level.
Interesting thought on subbing into a game.
That might work.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on February 17, 2014, 07:08:29 PM
has his abilities & his capabilities all messed up. Off with his Head  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Golfprotiger on February 17, 2014, 08:30:29 PM
He needs to play more the small forward rather than midfield.
He has goal smarts and X factor. I'de rather him playing forward pocket than King.

Exactly :thumbsup
2013 - 13 Goals - forward / midfield
2012 - 29 Goals - forward

As I pointed out at the end of last year, should play forward pocket!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 17, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
even in what was a pretty ordinary season, edwards was 4th in clearances for the club last year, ahead of martin. he is constantly in the top half dozen in this area.
The other night, in the 2nd or 3rd,(cant remeber which) he was the only richmond bloke getting center bounce clearances.

Those horrible howlers he was producing a few years back have gone, but it seems that unless he absolutely blitzes, he will be crucified
lol every yr has been similar yet last yr was ordinary.
the only redeeming part of his game is his hands.  as you say hes always got his fair share of contested ball and thus clearances. these little fellas need more than just one redeeming feaqture to their games.  hence when he snared 29 goals he did some genuinine damage and had a string to his bow.
ah whats the point if people cant see it after 7yrs they never will.

hes been at his best passable, theres been rarely nothing to say hey we have a very good player here his best has been good enough. but its impossible to play at your best consistently well. thus he has regularly dropped way off the pace. id say good  ordinary sums him up perfectly when on song .   but when hes not which is too often well hes crap.ffs it isnt hard to get better than edwards or it should not be. but when you fail with so many nd picks i suppose it can be.
you say it isnt hard to get better, yet he is constantly is in the top clearance winners for the club. So why are others not winning more clearances constantly?

as others have said, he aint no superstar, but to be constantly winning his fair share of clearances means he is earning his place, unless of course you think clearances are not important?

but then again, you seem to strive for a team of superstars.
lol at the man content with mediocrity. one decent attribute makes it all good  never mind every other area of the game. ffs we are talking afl players. players of his type really do need to bring more to the table than winning a few clearances.
 i could find you 10 players in state leagues who would be just as good as as edwards at clearances. they would also offer much more in  other area.
ffs slow,  cant find the ball often,  with poor foot skills  at 182 and barely 80kg small and undersized after 7 yrs.
  geez hes a champion of the game  who we just should not be looking to do better than.  geez i love the head up their arses crowd. they sure love their own stink.
theres delusion and then theres well you. the epitomy of of it. yep lets only talk about the one thing a player does half well lets forget all else and put the rose coloureds on.

if i listen to the likes of you, i will get yep we need to improve  to be a contender, but lets improve with the hacks we have who only have one redeeming attribute.  we shouldnt be aiming for better players blokes like edwards just cant be replaced.  stuff that is hilarious. when i say esily replaced bud im only taklking about a reasonably well rounded player.
we will turn over at least another 20 players before we make a gf and thats if we recruit well hmm i wonder if anyone can see a problem there.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 17, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 18, 2014, 03:04:51 PM
Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?

Crumbs beautiful and hands of Jesus. bizarre to not play them forward
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on February 18, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?

Crumbs beautiful and hands of Jesus. bizarre to not play them forward

I agree, even though he's one-sided, takes an enternity to balance to kick on his right foot and is built like Olive Oyl yet has a greater turning circle than Emile Heskey.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on February 18, 2014, 05:42:34 PM
has his abilities & his capabilities all messed up. Off with his Head  ;D

haha succinct and pretty much sums it up
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigershark on February 18, 2014, 09:44:58 PM
Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?

Crumbs beautiful and hands of Jesus. bizarre to not play them forward
agreed but ya can't handball a goal.... :whistle


Edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on February 19, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Looks set for a good year again.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: The Machine on February 19, 2014, 09:02:17 AM
Shane > king. Grigg. Houli?

Crumbs beautiful and hands of Jesus. bizarre to not play them forward


Agree...HFF with small stints in the middle is his go I believe. Yes, we all realise his kicking is so so at times (see Cotchin) but he brings a lot to the team like his running ability, his work in close with his vision and hands are exceptional, he can take a nice mark, he is durable and he crumbing is first class. He is not a champion but he is a good AFL player. That's my take on Edwards anyway, regular starter.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigers of Old on February 19, 2014, 10:32:30 PM
Thought he was one of our best early. Some of his work around the clearances was exceptional.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on February 20, 2014, 10:42:59 PM
are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
lol mr disingenuous complaining about comprehension. whos making poo up. if the shoe fits wear it bud.

so  enlighten us all what other attributes  outside of having good hands thus  winning his share of clearances does he consistently bring to the table.
by the way a bloke like lonergan would have a better average with clearances yet we cut him because he just didnt tick enough other boxes. edwards is just as deficient as lonergan in many areas. we really have to be aiming for better more well rounded players than edwards. in the mean time until we do find those players we are stuck with the likes of shane unfortunately.
thats not to say we should not be aiming for better.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on February 20, 2014, 10:45:47 PM
Can't kick. That's the problemo.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on February 20, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
are your comprehension skills really that bad or do you just love making poo up for the sake of arguing?
lol mr disingenuous complaining about comprehension. whos making poo up. if the shoe fits wear it bud.



perhaps you could enlighten us on how this

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as others have said, he aint no superstar,

begets this sarcastic crap
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geez hes a champion of the game  who we just should not be looking to do better than.  geez i love the head up their arses crowd. they sure love their own stink.

that my narcissistic friend, is either the comprehension of an inbred hillbilly whom has hardly ever seen a book, or a deliberate misrepresentation for the sake of arguing.

Which is it?

what were you saying about if the shoe fits?

the crazy part, i mean the real crazy part, is that no where have i said any difference to this

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in the mean time until we do find those players we are stuck with the likes of shane unfortunately.
thats not to say we should not be aiming for better.

but as long as you resort to the illogical contardictory type comments i highlight at the start of this post, every time someone posts a different opinion to yours, no rational conversation will ever be possible.

Just because you see everyone as either a dud or a champ, that doesn't mean it is so. There are those, lots in fact, that fall somewhere in between.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on February 20, 2014, 11:51:29 PM
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Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on February 21, 2014, 12:15:50 AM
*illiterate response that doesn't even address the post*
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 23, 2014, 07:25:52 AM
Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...

Thoughts??
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 23, 2014, 01:45:24 PM
Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...

Thoughts??

Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good

Vast improvement on last week's effort
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on February 23, 2014, 03:08:32 PM
Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...

Thoughts??

Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good

Vast improvement on last week's effort

Thanks WP, that's good to hear then.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on February 23, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...

Thoughts??

Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good

Vast improvement on last week's effort
Thought Shane was good last week. He was about the only bloke who had a crack last week and got taken off for trying too hard.  :shh
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on February 23, 2014, 08:04:24 PM
Awww geee stuff me we are getting our knives reading aren't we fellas? Actually we aren't even using knives anymore, we'll be handing out machetes to do the stabbing.  Watch your back boys because the knives are out and well and truly being sharpened!!  :police:
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on February 23, 2014, 08:05:32 PM
I was thnking of a broadsword truth to tell
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 03:32:46 PM
Dead set champ this bloke... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 04:47:04 PM
This guy just cant keep getting games like he does...I just don't get it... :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 05, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
Shocking today and deserves to be dropped. Infact send him back to South Australia for a can of coke and a packet of twisties.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 05, 2014, 05:12:30 PM
Only people with half a brain can see this bloke is a complete spud. Always has been always will be.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 05, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 05:16:08 PM
Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender

Burn the clubhouse down if that happens!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 05, 2014, 05:16:29 PM
Whats the bet Gordon makes way beforr this pretender

that would be a disgraceful decision IMHO
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 05, 2014, 05:30:14 PM
 Gets a game next week as he is due to wash Dimmas car and put the bins out next week
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 05, 2014, 05:33:35 PM
Commissioner in - Titch out
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 05:37:14 PM
Gets a game next week as he is due to wash Dimmas car and put the bins out next week

Also, still has that photo of Dimma with the goat.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 05, 2014, 05:41:11 PM
this blokes gotta have photos on someone or something.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 05, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.

mate he is an arse holes footballer.

Honestly think about his performance since he was drafted.

2 descent half years out of 8. Thats it.

he gets a game because he probably fondles dimmas date during the week. plays like some of the blokes on commercial road i see on the way to work monday morning
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 05, 2014, 05:43:11 PM
He looks ok when we are winning because he gets carried, when we are down though he cant support himself let alone his team mates. Time to go.

mate he is an arse holes footballer.

Honestly think about his performance since he was drafted.

2 descent half years out of 8. Thats it.

he gets a game because he probably fondles dimmas date during the week. plays like some of the blokes on commercial road i see on the way to work monday morning

Agree and I have been saying it for 6 of those 8 long, very stuffing long years.... :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 05, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
A headless chicken who costs us goals at both ends.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 05, 2014, 09:48:01 PM
Anyone??? Although stats don't say it all and I will watch the game (followed it though) when I get home it seems Shane only produced a bit in the first 15 minutes...

Thoughts??

Was there yesterday I thought as a defensive small forward he was very good

Vast improvement on last week's effort
so what is kingys role. :o do we need two defensive sml forwards who dont do much.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 05, 2014, 09:53:31 PM
In answer to your queston claw would rather have Kingy than Titch. Kingy at least has prescence.
Titch's presence is detrimental both fwd and back.
Enough is enough with this spud. Titch is a below average footballer who has lasted 8 seasons at the only footy club in the AFL willing to have him. That GC17, GWS trade scenario has sailed now.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Lozza on April 05, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
The problem is that rather than send a message to him by dropping him Hardwick continues to play this spud so he starts to think he has a walk up start every week and untouchable. Drop him and see if he responds how any talented footballer would or simply languishes in the VFL confirming that he is simply not up to it.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2014, 06:13:07 AM
very poor game I thought by titch/Must be getting close to spending time in the 2s
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 06, 2014, 06:53:55 AM
After watching the replay for the 2nd time grrrrr
His handball which caused the turnover which caused the winning goal is enough
If he gets a game next week surely proves he is washing no only Dimmas car but Peggy..Brendan's .and Chocos cars
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: flea03 on April 06, 2014, 07:17:33 AM
what about not 1 not 2 but 3 easy goals cotchin missed

if he just kicked one more we would have won,,, he missed all 3 .  NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A SO CALLED GUN
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 06, 2014, 07:26:52 AM
King will go before Edwards but Shane is on notice.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 06, 2014, 07:29:01 AM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Smokey on April 06, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF

The neighbours thought a murder had been committed when I reacted a tad loudly at that.  I just couldn't believe what he had done and thought it showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability.  The whole team just seems to be playing like it has no faith in itself any more; the refusal to take risk, the refusal to run forward, the refusal to take ownership of a play, and Cotchin seems to be as affected as anyone.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 06, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 06, 2014, 11:38:08 AM
trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.
Adelaide will have him. Get a Tambling deal done Richmond!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.

Free agent!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 06, 2014, 11:38:45 AM
He is no ablett

But is he the first to go?

Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
He is no ablett

But is he the first to go?

Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc

He has bee at the club for 8 years and nothings changed, Houli and Grigg just need a kick in the arse.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 06, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
trade him at the end of the year. we wont get much be he aint worth much anyway on the trade market.

Free agent!

then he can pee off ... he's not doing anything for us anyway
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 06, 2014, 11:40:55 AM
He's not older than the Melbourne Carlton Essendon rejects

Same age group

Houli petard Grigg have also been in the system around a decade
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 06, 2014, 12:31:15 PM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF

The neighbours thought a murder had been committed when I reacted a tad loudly at that.  I just couldn't believe what he had done and thought it showed a complete lack of confidence in his own ability.  The whole team just seems to be playing like it has no faith in itself any more; the refusal to take risk, the refusal to run forward, the refusal to take ownership of a play, and Cotchin seems to be as affected as anyone.

Agree and this was massively exposed in the elim final last year. People went on and on about Houli's decision to pass from 60 instead of run a bit further and take a shot, but there were actually about another 5-6 other glaring incidents where players passed it off rather than have a ping from 50 including martin a couple of times and theres no one Id rather than him having a shot from there. Think the mindset of the whole team is and has been slightly wrong for a while, there is no killer instinct. We need to be more ruthless and whilst its great they want to bring each other into the game, sometimes it takes more courage for players to put their hand up to take on the responsibility (for better or worse).
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 06, 2014, 02:38:14 PM
Correct
Jake King did from outside 50 in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on April 06, 2014, 04:14:46 PM
Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 06, 2014, 04:16:24 PM
Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.

True but is should never been passed to him by Dusty. Dusty should have taken the shot or at least kicked to the goal square
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 06, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
Might be a weird statement but I liked Gordon taking it upon himself to have a shot on goal from 50 on a rough angle. He kicked it out on the full but at least showed a bit of responsibility instead of going with the easy option and kicking it to the top of the square.

That's what White used to do all the time - we all remember those spectacular looking running goals he kicked from near the boundary, but fact is he missed more often than not and most of the time he should've just squared it up. I'd prefer Gordon not continue that theme.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: georgies31 on April 06, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
Played his best football 2 seasons ago in that crumbling forward role and I thought that's his home now some reason moved again and has gone backwards.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 06, 2014, 04:48:36 PM
Should be a sub before he's sacked.
Could work
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 06, 2014, 05:00:44 PM
Should be a sub before he's sacked.
Could work

Been saying that since they brought the rule in. Made for him. Though after his efforts in these first three games I'd like to see him in the VFL first.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 06, 2014, 05:18:24 PM
He is no ablett

But is he the first to go?

Not sure he worse than say Grigg pettard houli etc

8 years of utter tripe judge and yes he should be one of the first to go, nudged out slightly by Newman with grigg third

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 06, 2014, 07:57:29 PM
Played his best football 2 seasons ago in that crumbling forward role and I thought that's his home now some reason moved again and has gone backwards.
look at his career and instead of going backwards he has just reverted back to what is normal for him.. have often said when hes at his verybest which isnt often and cant be sustained hes a passable player, as soon as there is any sort of drop away from his best he becomes very ordinary indeed.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 07, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
i thought he was close to best on ground.
if there is a knock on cotchins game it has always been kicking and goal kicking in particular. perhaps cotchin was trying to play within his limitations and do the right thing.
cotchin will always make mistakes when kicking but i for one think he more than makes up for this weakness in every single other aspect of the game.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 07, 2014, 09:26:21 AM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game

There is something seriously wrong with you
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 07, 2014, 09:41:46 AM
Cotchin was 35 metres out running into an open goal and tries to pass to Jackson
WTF
Guy in the Herald Sun gives him 3 votes
Obviously wasn't at the game
i thought he was close to best on ground.
if there is a knock on cotchins game it has always been kicking and goal kicking in particular. perhaps cotchin was trying to play within his limitations and do the right thing.
cotchin will always make mistakes when kicking but i for one think he more than makes up for this weakness in every single other aspect of the game.

Yep. People forget how bad Watson was.

I have issues with every other senior player out there, except Cotchin.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 07, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
Would drop king before Shane
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 07, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on April 07, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 07, 2014, 10:36:22 AM
Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.

Now he can go and join comancheros good riddance
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 07, 2014, 10:52:24 AM
Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.

Now he can go and join comancheros good riddance

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 07, 2014, 02:14:36 PM
Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.

King was far from our worst on Saturday....Shank on the other hand was right down there....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 07, 2014, 02:17:19 PM
Would drop king before Shane
Yes. He is playing more like a queen atm.

King was far from our worst on Saturday....Shank on the other hand was right down there....

Disagree with that. King was close to if not our worst.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 07, 2014, 02:57:43 PM

kingy also had the doggies number 1 stopper on him, and copped a heavy knock early, something everyone continues to ignore
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on April 07, 2014, 03:05:47 PM
Kingy's body is stuffed. He's finished. Been a good servant though.
Agree.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on April 07, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
SPUD EDWARDS cost us the game

DROP HIM  ;D  :banghead
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 12, 2014, 08:27:09 AM
Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 12, 2014, 08:36:02 AM
It's that goal that will keep him in the side for another 6 weeks.
Got to have a token indigenous bloke fit and farting for Dreamtime unlike Essendon. :help
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 12, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 12, 2014, 08:43:47 AM
Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy

Chuck stop bombing the forum with crap.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 12, 2014, 08:46:33 AM
Edwards gets away Scott free again, he was useless, get thrown around like a rag doll. Lloyd showed him up in his first game. One soccer goal is nothing to write home about Shane.
I'm furious, what is the excuse for this guy

Chuck stop bombing the forum with crap.

Unfortunately there is definitely no excuse for me
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Golfprotiger on April 17, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...

VFL Time
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2014, 09:12:56 PM
Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...

What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 17, 2014, 09:15:37 PM
for a tricky small fwd he is absolute poo in greasy conditions

actgually hes poo in any conditions
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 09:16:49 PM
Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...

What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year

 I was keeping my word last year, I said I would support him and not bag him, which I did. stuff him now he is and always has been a pathetic excuse for an AFL player. :wallywink
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2014, 09:17:32 PM
The bloke's just utterly useless. His "quick hands" just sell us into trouble quicker. Like he plays in another dimension....you'd be a good chance to win a spot the ball comp. with him in the frame if you just put the cross anywhere in the general area behind him. A hack with a highlight reel.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 09:18:59 PM
for a tricky small fwd he is absolute poo in greasy conditions

actgually hes poo in any conditions

 :lol :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 17, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
Enuff is enough
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2014, 09:24:59 PM
Gee, when I look back over the years and the amount of crap of I copped on this forum about this bloke and wanting to get rid of him or saying he is only and always will be a VFL player.......stuff me, some of you lot will be cleaning the egg off your faces for stuffing years...

What are you talking about, you were his biggest fan last year

 I was keeping my word last year, I said I would support him and not bag him, which I did. stuff him now he is and always has been a pathetic excuse for an AFL player. :wallywink

You blew wind up his ass all last year and now your sucking it back in this year
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: mightytiges on April 17, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
Free agent this year. We'll get zero compensation based on his year so far. He might as well be sitting in the grandstand as he's only spectating on the field.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 17, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
This guy is a shrug off who doesnt use his speed
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on April 17, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
Edwards is a fwd pocket. FFS Dimma leave him up there.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 10:15:46 PM
2 goals to Shed WAT will be back and blowing again

Actually chuck, he makes people like you and himself look stuffing stupid, not much point trying to turn it on now, likewise his supporters, just blew back at you. 2 goals is hardly anything to crow about in the context of this poo game.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 10:20:39 PM
How many has Gordon kicked in 3 qtrs less than your mate??
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
How many has Gordon kicked in 3 qtrs less than your mate??

My opinion of Shed hasn't changed unlike yours, who can't mAke up their mind
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 17, 2014, 10:26:45 PM
3 to Gordon chuckhead.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Andyy on April 17, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
I hate this guy.

Plays like a hack all night. Then teases you with one quarter of football that just shouldn't be possible for a player of his standard like that goal from the pocket.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2014, 10:52:30 PM
I hate this guy.

Plays like a hack all night. Then teases you with one quarter of football that just shouldn't be possible for a player of his standard like that goal from the pocket.

Sigh.

Should be the sub.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Lozza on April 17, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Sadly and i have mentioned this before he is the closest we have to an x-factor player, doesnt do anything special consistently but is capable occasionally hence why he is one of the coach's favourites.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on April 17, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
Needs to be an opportunist small forward. Why do we need everyone to rotate through midfield..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2014, 11:07:22 PM
Love his abilty to spill the ball for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 17, 2014, 11:14:36 PM
His last quarter will see him get a 5 year deal
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2014, 11:21:28 PM
His last quarter will see him get a 5 year deal

Oh look we've always known what Shane is capable of.....when he starts to put together 4 quarters ...watch out....yeah...an important player for the club going forward......
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 17, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
dud delist asap.

why do we persevere with so many plyers who are passengers for huge chunks of most games. you betcha bottom dollar 2 last quarter goals  will save him and the usual problems will go unheeded.

its probably too late for it but he needs to spend 6 to 10 weeks in the magoos and they need to demand CONSISTENCY AT A HIGH LEVEL for that period before bringing him back.
personally id just put him on the scrap heap and get games into a youngster. enough of this crap.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Willy on April 17, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on April 17, 2014, 11:56:22 PM
I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
dark out look. nope just honest and realistic imo.

what concerns me most atm is all the hardwork and strides forward we have made as a club can count for nought if we dont make the right calls on these consistently mediocre underperforming players. these  blokes dont change  they were the same at the start of yr as they are now. they were the same 4 yrs ago as they are now.

how do you put it  i suppose like this.
lets say im good enough to get on  a list   im a mediocre player  though
. if i get 10 games its likely one of them will be a good one but im mediocre and im going to revert back to what im consistently  capable of  and thats mediocrity. our trouble it seems with supporters and the club that one good game is enough for the club to keep me and give me more games. then repeat the exercise.

shane edwards has played some good footy but hes never ever produced consistently good for over a decent period of time. imo the weaknesses or deficiencies in his game causes this. he will always revert to mediocrity.



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on April 18, 2014, 02:39:48 AM
I find myself agreeing with Claw a lot recently which is indicative of my dark outlook
:lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2014, 06:06:17 AM
dud delist asap.

why do we persevere with so many plyers who are passengers for huge chunks of most games. you betcha bottom dollar 2 last quarter goals  will save him and the usual problems will go unheeded.

its probably too late for it but he needs to spend 6 to 10 weeks in the magoos and they need to demand CONSISTENCY AT A HIGH LEVEL for that period before bringing him back.
personally id just put him on the scrap heap and get games into a youngster. enough of this crap.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 27, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
This guy has to go, watch him in the last quarter when the gem is shot, he will kick two more and get a go next week too.. :whistle
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
Not the worse player
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 27, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
Not the worse player

Until we get rid of players like this we will never go forward, he's a fumbling fool and a rag doll out there. He looks like a boy amongst men.

It's ok, watch him kick a couple in the last 10 minutes and think he's great.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2014, 05:22:01 PM
Rank the players - tell me who are the worst ten
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 27, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
Rank the players - tell me who are the worst ten

THE RFC.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 27, 2014, 05:27:57 PM


give it up JR, he's a hack
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2014, 05:30:19 PM
Who's the worst
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on April 27, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
Who stuffing cares their all poo.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Rampstar on April 27, 2014, 05:31:59 PM
should be playing games at Punt Rd Oval not the MCG
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 27, 2014, 05:43:36 PM
The cycle of Skata.  :banghead :banghead :banghead

Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.

B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!

We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.

This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.

FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on April 27, 2014, 05:54:06 PM
Shane Edwards squibbed  :rollin
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 27, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
stuff the dirty Cidiot
Wish he would just stuff off
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: DCrane on April 27, 2014, 08:02:02 PM
I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 27, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Totally useless
Would get blown away on a Windy Day
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on April 27, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
Totally useless
Would get blown away on a Windy Day

l have never seen another footballer like him. he squibbs every game this year. His family must be multi-millionaires cause l don't even rate him as a footballer
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 27, 2014, 08:11:37 PM
FFs 30 years of crap players
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 27, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - please start the trade negotiations now RFC.....

....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 27, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....

....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....

What success of White?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: wayne on April 27, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.

x2
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on April 27, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Where's Judge??

Please tell me again why you love this bloke

stuff honestly I can't see how anyone in the country would rate this bloke

I notice In the lids Newman doco on clubs website, your favourite hack was lids handyman cleaning doing odd jobs at his house. Just so fitting really the role suits such a Squibb
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on April 27, 2014, 08:28:19 PM
Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....

....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....

What success of White?

Getting a start in the side that's currently topping the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 27, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....

....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....

What success of White?

Getting a start in the side that's currently leading the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it ?

Ok then yeah he is smashing it what a superstar
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on April 27, 2014, 08:29:50 PM
I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.

x2

I know that feeling, I jumped off a couple of years back 2011 I think it was against the pies a night game. 3rd qtr Lids went nuts and we got a run on and closed the gap from 10 goals to about 4( lol) we were all over them and shed ran into an open goal 3 times in 10 mins for a total combined return of 1 behind and 2 OOTF. Lost me that night and have never looked back. Just not good enough - The end
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 27, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
Do we need an indigenous player on the list to keep Dreamtime?

As far as I can see that may be the only reason he gets a game…..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on April 27, 2014, 08:40:14 PM
Hopefully the success of Schultz & White will convince Port thay can turn him around too.....and he's also a Croweater - start the trade negotiations now RFC.....

....or just delist the useless prick, I don't care.....

What success of White?

Getting a start in the side that's currently leading the ladder after being an in and out sub for a mid-table also-ran - what would you call it ?

Ok then yeah he is smashing it what a superstar

So it's only "success" if he's BOG every week eh Chuck-a-wobbly? Careful - you almost sound like a darksider there.

If we could keep lids, Cotch, Dusty and Jack and have 18 Matty whites we would be set
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
I have stuck with Edwards for as long as is humanly possible, he has lost me now, useless.

x2

I know that feeling, I jumped off a couple of years back 2011 I think it was against the pies a night game. 3rd qtr Lids went nuts and we got a run on and closed the gap from 10 goals to about 4( lol) we were all over them and shed ran into an open goal 3 times in 10 mins for a total combined return of 1 behind and 2 OOTF. Lost me that night and have never looked back. Just not good enough - The end

TM remember that game well. The phrase was coined on here by someone about him momentum killer. Was that game and I had lost him much earlier. Was almost cajoled in 2012 but remained firm. Critical misses against Nth in the last quarter and turnovers earlier that year in close games sealed the deal fully.
Will never be a player other than a less than ordinary one. Plain and simple.
Even at Geelong, Christensen, Motlop and Stokes all on one leg would get selection before the less than ordinary Titch.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Lozza on April 27, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
Will he get dropped, we all know the answer, Hardwick's credibility is decreasing by the day and if he doesn't make a statement at the selection table this week then I think he may as well resign as coach. I think his problem is he is a great bloke but like a teacher who let's you talk in class and doesn't give homework eventually the kids take advantage. In this case its the Griggs, Edwards, Newman's, Houlis who just expect and get provided with a walk up start every week regardless of form. A message needs to be sent to them very quickly and if Hardwick isn't prepared to do it then find someone who is for while these pretenders are in the team we are going nowhere fast.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 05, 2014, 03:49:32 AM
Well what do ya know - played well as a sub....rule is made for him.... been wanting this since they brought it in - still had to have his little brain explosion with the playing on in the square but luckliy got a second chance second later and made amends. Could this finally see him become the impact player he's been threatening to be but never delivered upon his entire career ...or could it be a sign he's finally on the way out? Either way would suit me just fine but unfortunately I feel there's little doubt Hardwick will see today's effort as a reason to start him again and all will be undone.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 05, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Better than grigg newman
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 05, 2014, 09:27:51 AM
Better than grigg newman

Edwards is rubbish mate

my left testicle is better than those 2.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 05, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Had a big impact when he came on.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 05, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
Not disputing that thought he was influential with his tackling and goals in that quarter.

Another above average game adding to his tally of 25 out of 135 odd games.

Get rid of him.



Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2014, 11:11:20 AM
Well what do ya know - played well as a sub....rule is made for him.... been wanting this since they brought it in - still had to have his little brain explosion with the playing on in the square but luckliy got a second chance second later and made amends. Could this finally see him become the impact player he's been threatening to be but never delivered upon his entire career ...or could it be a sign he's finally on the way out? Either way would suit me just fine but unfortunately I feel there's little doubt Hardwick will see today's effort as a reason to start him again and all will be undone.

Yep leave him as sub, did have an immediate impact
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 05, 2014, 11:15:21 AM
Matt White was an ordinary footballer before we made him a sub. Amazing what confidence does to a players output
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 05, 2014, 11:20:32 AM
White was below ordinary for a long time
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 05, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 05, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
Don't think him playing on was a mistake. He looked through and then stopped.  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 05, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
anyone could give 1 quarter football. if you weren't roaring to go after coming off the pine when everyone else is blowing then there is a problem. So in 8 years his given 9 quarters of football  :clapping well effing done. Hell l could even give 1 quarter at 50  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 06, 2014, 10:55:49 PM
White was below ordinary for a long time
white is only now playing at what id call an acceptable level. give it time judge give it time and the real matt white will shows its ugly head.

so hes not our worst but the fact remains edwards is still a huge problem

of all the regulars of similar type and role im struggling to find anyone who has been worse including the departed matt white. how about you tell us who you think is worse than edwards either as a mid or as a sml fwd  or a combination of both.
without a doubt we are better off drafting a quick skilled sml mid/fwd who has smarts than persevering with edwards. its actually about aiming to do better and not stagnate and actually doing something about it.

me im hoping we turn over at a minimum 8 players come seasons end  id prefer 10.  id like us to target 6 maybe 7 juniors and 3 possibly 4 mature players. we do this in all areas of recruiting nd, psd, rookie draft, and f/a.

the 8 i would not hesitate to delist retire or trade are.
banfield delist. recruit a mid/fwd.
batchelor delist/trade. recruit a kpd
darrou delist. recruit a kpd
a edwards retire. recruit a tal fwd think jack gunstan for type.
s edwards delist/trade. recruit a sml fwd. sheesh theres always someone at other clubs who think they can turn players like edwards around we may get a 3rd rounder if we are lucky.
s grigg delist. recruit a skillful quick outside mid.
helbig delist cant wait forever. recruit a big bodied mid. if he can get a game and show a bit keep.
king retire. recruit a  quick skillful mid.
newman retire.  recruit a specialist med defender. have a go at someone like hibberd from ess.
petterd delist. recruit a kpf
stephenson delist recruit a crash bash ruckman. would also like to take another ruckman somewhere probably rookie.

trade vickery try and get back into the first round with this trade  may need to add to this to get a first rounder.

sheesh i could do another 5 if i had to.
where does edwards sit among these well id him in the first 5 gone.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tigs2011 on May 07, 2014, 12:25:47 AM
White was below ordinary for a long time
white is only now playing at what id call an acceptable level. give it time judge give it time and the real matt white will shows its ugly head.

What do you mean give it time? It reared its head when they played Norf. Just had to get the ball moving forward on the rebound and shanked it off the side of the boot and the ball went sideways. Meanwhile his man slaughtered him the other way.  :lol
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 07, 2014, 04:51:17 AM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 07, 2014, 08:45:35 AM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Top Post  :thumbsup White is better off away from Richmond. They were keeping him down. As you said our chip game don't suit fast players. l hope he makes something of his football career at Port. Its strange that everyone knows playing football is to go long, direct & fast. He goes long & direct but also follows it up & then kicks a ripper goal often. Watching the Port game's, He was at the feet of the Port forwards ready to pounce. Sadly l don't see that in the Richmond games as most of the time our smalls ain't there or simply cant keep up with the game & often if you follow Edwards his opponant pushes him off balance just enough to keep him out of the play he is so easy to push off his feet. Edwards needs to get some mongrel into him to be able to play finals footy this year or he may find himself out in the cold like Foley as our youngsters will quickly take their places.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 07, 2014, 08:55:16 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 07, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 07, 2014, 08:59:15 AM
If a player who has been at the top level for 8 years is not strong on his feet & still plays like a rookie. OFF WITH HIS HEAD  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 07, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 07, 2014, 09:59:51 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.

So he should, He was chewing the pine for 2 quarters & has 8 years experience.  l would expect nothing less. He needs to be put on there again l think he overdosed on the Gatorade  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 07, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.

Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.

He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: TigerMonk on May 07, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.

Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.

He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.

if we made up a highlights package for him it would look like the Benny Hill show  ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WA Tiger on May 07, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
Just cut him loose, list clogging now, cameo's for the rest of the year shouldn't save him.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 07, 2014, 12:31:19 PM
trade for a slower, more inconsistent player.

wait, what?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Yeahright on May 07, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
People just expect to replace our players from thin air  ::)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 07, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
trade for a slower, more inconsistent player.

wait, what?

Maybe we could trade him for Andy Collins
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2014, 03:58:36 PM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.

I doubt that very much ;D
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 07, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Keep Edwards if possible but at a moderate rate. If he's offered better coin elsewhere don't stand in his way.

keep him for what reason. Sorry magic he is hopeless and a list clogger along with at least 8 from our current list.

He's not hopeless at all. He changed the game against the Cats, a hopeless player doesn't do that.

Let me see mate, thats right we lost so what did he change. Played well-yep but you should expect that from a sub.

He changed other games too due to his lack of ability wouldnt you agree? Cant have it both ways.

did we play the better football with or without him against geelong?

as for what did he change? really? yeah we still lost, but perhaps if the blokes on the field hadnt gone gone a quarter and half without kicking a goal his influence may very well have been the difference between winning and losong rather the the difference between a big loss and a small loss.

How in gods name could you lay that at his feet when he wasnt even on the ground????????
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 07, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.

I doubt that very much ;D

Why?
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 07, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.

I doubt that very much ;D

Why?

why would he be happy with letting go a guy who was the fastest in our club but allowing other spuds to list clog.

Nothing to be proud of there watching the slowest RFC team in years.

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2014, 07:48:19 PM
Nup. White always put his head over the onion, had a nice kick and unreal pace. Average/solid player at Richmond. Clearly our chip chip, stuff around with it gameplan isn't suited to Greg's style of play. Port play a lovely style of footy that suits Whitey. Obviously he's going alright and Dan Richardson made a cock up. Hope Greg and Dan bump into each other at some stage this year.

Sounds like it was the right thing for the player so I'm sure Dan would be happy for him.

I doubt that very much ;D

Why?

Matt's departure wasn't all smiles and handshakes. Dan would not be pleased at his current form. Whitey is shoving it right up his arse and good on him
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: yellowandback on May 07, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
You think Dan is that small minded?
Interesting.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: tony_montana on May 07, 2014, 07:53:08 PM
what I want to know is what ekto thinks about all of this
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: bojangles17 on May 07, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Clubs weren't exactly queuing to contract a 105gamer over 8 years to a 1mn 3 year deal ...RFC did what most clubs would do, PA have been damned lucky. Players under these circumstances never generally turn out for the best, read Chris knights , justin blumfield , mark Williams, Clinton young, Quentin lynch, Wayne Carey , lions  have had a few lately

He d also torn a hammy every year for last few years....good luck to whitey, right place right time
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
You think Dan is that small minded?
Interesting.

I think Dan made a horrible choice by treating Matt like a piece of garbage. Can't see how he'd now be on his side.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 07, 2014, 08:14:49 PM
Agree with bojan. If White was so valuable he'd have done a lot more at Richmond over the umpteen years he was there.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 07, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
Clubs weren't exactly queuing to contract a 105gamer over 8 years to a 1mn 3 year deal ...RFC did what most clubs would do, PA have been damned lucky. Players under these circumstances never generally turn out for the best, read Chris knights , justin blumfield , mark Williams, Clinton young, Quentin lynch, Wayne Carey , lions  have had a few lately

He d also torn a hammy every year for last few years....good luck to whitey, right place right time

That's your mail is it? that PA was the only club interested?

To borrow a phrase from someone else: Give me a spell

I think Dan made a horrible choice by treating Matt like a piece of garbage. Can't see how he'd now be on his side.

Don't forget Blair, part of his job is "value" those on our list and make recommendations regarding contracts & re-signings. Looking at the RFC web-site the other day it seems Blair has been promoted  :o He is now  "General Manager of Player Personnel & List Management"  ::)
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Coach on May 07, 2014, 09:21:58 PM
I hope you don't mind me saying this WP...Blair is terrific, just terrific.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 07, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
I hope you don't mind me saying this WP...Blair is terrific, just terrific.

Nah, Terrific, just terrific Tm, you've mentioned it  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 07, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 07, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.

Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.

And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 07, 2014, 10:27:09 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.

Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.

And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas.  He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft.  So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: big tone on May 07, 2014, 10:32:11 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.

Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.

And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 07, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Whatever you think of him, Grigg was a brilliant trade considering it cost us superstar Andy Collins. :P

Most of the recycled fringe players have been at very low cost. The most expensive being Maric and Hampson.

Many of them have served a purpose but I expect us to put the broom through them this year with an uncompromised draft in play for the first time in several years.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 07, 2014, 10:44:08 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.

Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.

And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas.  He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft.  So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.

No actually they looked at trading for Thomas back in 2012 (zit here was multi page thread on here about it). BH was very keen back then, he makes these recommendations

It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.

Never wanted Grigg, never been a fan. What people are complaining about this year are the exact same things I've been raising for over 3 years now. Houli I didn't have a problem with because he filled a clear void.

I blame Blair for recommending which players to target from other clubs. Yep I can understand why we did it when we did but and it's a big but... He is the one who has recommended targeting established players rather going for kids. He is the one who in his role "values" other clubs players and then says giving up 2nd round pick for Hampson is a value trade.

I just believe BH has too much say in too many things and he has escaped scrutiny for our trading, FA targets and drafting mature age players rather than drafting kids when has clearly had a major role as the list analyst.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: big tone on May 07, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
Blair does his job well but who is he accountable to?
Too often he's the smartest bloke in the room and that's not healthy.

Personally , I question whether he is doing job well. He is the one who recommended Thomas, targeted Grigg, Houli, Chaplin.

And he is answerable to the GM of Football; Dan Richardson
To be fair to Blair he hardly targeted Thomas.  He was selected with the last choice in the ROOKIE draft.  So he wasn't even on the main list till Dimma said he wanted him to be elevated.

No actually they looked at trading for Thomas back in 2012 (zit here was multi page thread on here about it). BH was very keen back then, he makes these recommendations

It's funny how you mention those last three names this year, but when they all helped us improve from year to year since they have been at the club, they were ok. At the time these guys were traded for we needed to do it. We made a final last year don't forget and nine other teams didn't! Forget the result, we won 16 games with these blokes in a tough comp.
I don't blame BH for these guys now, they should have been upgrade on with kids, not their fault either, if Dimma keeps playing them, it's on Dimma.

Never wanted Grigg, never been a fan. What people are complaining about this year are the exact same things I've been raising for over 3 years now. Houli I didn't have a problem with because he filled a clear void.

I blame Blair for recommending which players to target from other clubs. Yep I can understand why we did it when we did but and it's a big but... He is the one who has recommended targeting established players rather going for kids. He is the one who in his role "values" other clubs players and then says giving up 2nd round pick for Hampson is a value trade.

I just believe BH has too much say in too many things and he has escaped scrutiny for our trading, FA targets and drafting mature age players rather than drafting kids when has clearly had a major role as the list analyst.
Firstly I don't rate Grigg really either but the facts are we paid 'not much' for him and he is better than we had at the time.  Pretty simple. As I said, if Dimma wants to keep playing him then that's on Dimma. It pretty clear both you and I wouldn't now.
Secondly, isn't BH's roll to find players that could potentially be an upgrade on some of our guys. If he was saying we should just draft kids then he would be out of a job. We employed him to do just what he has been doing.
And until this year, most of us would agree the players he bought into the club have helped when drafts were compromised. Nowhere did BH say these guys were here forever.
And lastly as drafting players is a risk so is trading for them. Some will work and some will not.
FJ is the one we need to upgrade on- I wish BH could do that.
Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Diocletian on May 07, 2014, 11:16:05 PM
McMahon > Grigg
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Francois Hackson on May 08, 2014, 06:40:27 AM
McMahon > Grigg

Hahahaha exactly
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 08, 2014, 07:00:22 AM

Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.

Again with respect big tone, all clubs have a person in the same role (List Analyst & Opposition List Analyst) as Blair Hartley. RFC were one of the last clubs to have someone in that role.

FJ's job is recruiting. His recruiting is based on what he is told the club wants to target, the type of player they want (yes he's made some blues not disputing that). BH has input into that seeing he chairs the List Management committee. Blair will tell you that himself.

I just believe that Blair has far too much say in areas that he shouldn't. That's all
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: big tone on May 08, 2014, 07:46:25 AM

Sorry one more thing, in all honesty, if the RFC had the upmost faith in FJ and his recruiting, then they wouldn't even need BH. But they don't and with VERY good reason.

Again with respect big tone, all clubs have a person in the same role (List Analyst & Opposition List Analyst) as Blair Hartley. RFC were one of the last clubs to have someone in that role.

FJ's job is recruiting. His recruiting is based on what he is told the club wants to target, the type of player they want (yes he's made some blues not disputing that). BH has input into that seeing he chairs the List Management committee. Blair will tell you that himself.

I just believe that Blair has far too much say in areas that he shouldn't. That's all
FJ identifies young talent first and foremost!!! After that the club may say what type of player they might need. But if FJ thought kid A would be better than kid B  that they might need, and FJ didn't put his foot down on player A, then he shouldn't be in his roll.
I cannot believe he still has a job with all his misses.
Not sure what your problem is with BH but his record stands up against FJ.
And no offense to you WP but you are only an outsider looking in, but in reality you have no idea what goes on behind the doors of the RFC. None of us do.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 08, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Blair has done ok for someone who was editing videos 12 years ago
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 08, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
Everyone starts at the bottom.

I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Penelope on May 08, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
funny that someone that failed in the industry would bring what someone else was doing 12 years ago.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 08, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
Not sure what your problem is with BH but his record stands up against FJ.
 

Outside of the fact he appears to escape any form of scrutiny regarding his role in the state of our list....

You are correct I do have a problem with him not afraid to admit it. But I'll leave it at that.

And no offense to you WP but you are only an outsider looking in, but in reality you have no idea what goes on behind the doors of the RFC. None of us do.

None taken and I'll leave it there  ;) :thumbsup

Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on May 08, 2014, 10:46:23 AM
funny that someone that failed in the industry would bring what someone else was doing 12 years ago.

Good point Al
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 08, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
Everyone starts at the bottom.

I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley.   we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the  players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise  that this is the case.   we take an ordinary or average player  and improve an area and that seems to be good enough  when the need is there to upograde that player.

sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we  were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.

imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris. 
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 08, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
Out: Hartley

In: the claw :bow :bow
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: big tone on May 08, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
Everyone starts at the bottom.

I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley.   we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the  players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise  that this is the case.   we take an ordinary or average player  and improve an area and that seems to be good enough  when the need is there to upograde that player.

sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we  were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.

imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: Mr Magic on May 08, 2014, 10:47:06 PM
Everyone starts at the bottom.

I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley.   we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the  players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise  that this is the case.   we take an ordinary or average player  and improve an area and that seems to be good enough  when the need is there to upograde that player.

sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we  were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.

imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.

I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
Title: Re: Shane Edwards [merged]
Post by: the claw on May 09, 2014, 12:23:06 PM
Everyone starts at the bottom.

I'm a fan of Hartley and think he is a valuable asset to the club.
im a fan of the process im not so keen on hartley.   we can do much better than what we have done. hartley has taken a plethora of deficient players. a lot of the  players he has bought to the club probably has been an upgrade in some sort of way or other. i call it value adding and just my opinion the vast majority odf mature recruits he has bought to the club have themselves needed to be value added. the club seems to fail in almost all cases to recognise  that this is the case.   we take an ordinary or average player  and improve an area and that seems to be good enough  when the need is there to upograde that player.

sean grigg at the time was a good get but ffs we  were always going to have to upgrade on him down the track. the simple reason for this is he has too many weaknesses in his game. houli is another. been a good get served a purpose and improved marginally an area we were poor in. its time to look for the upgrade.

imo harley has just two really good gets and they are maric and morris.
On one hand you say was Grigg was a good get at the time, then you say Maric and Morris are his only good gets. Like I keep saying, if Dimma wants to keep playing him, then it's on him. We would all be ok if Grigg and Houli were depth players only getting a game when we had a few injuries or young guys are out of form.
You cannot blame BH for this. He has more than done his job during a horrible time of trying to get our list competitive with compromised drafts.
It's funny how a bad start to the season can all of a sudden mean we have a bad list. We won 15 games last year with generally the same list.

I lean towards this thinking.
besides I reckon Hardwick is already on his way to upgrading on a few of these mature bandaid players now that the younger players are ready to come through. It's happening right now even if some don't see it..
reckon your pretty well aware i was very critical of the list last yr despite winning 15 games.

let me rephrase it for you. grigg was a good get in the sense he cost nothing and he was an upgrade on players we had.  he is not a long term keeper or should not be.  in that sense he was not a good get.  a short term fix if you like. mate you or i could target decent short term upgrades it really isnt a hard thing to do.

grigg and houli were both good gets at the time because they were actually improvements on players we had. my argument has always been we at some point would need to upgrade the upgrades because of the obvious defociencies in their game. blair keeps on taking players who clearly are not long term keepers and have glaring weaknesses .imo both can be replaced fairly easily if your half decent at your job  and should have been by now.

maric quite simply put is irreplaceable and apert from carrying injury has given very good service. hes given heaps more than any ruckman on our list even when injured and is always competetive. .morris performs his primary  role very well and will be kept as he should be. in taking him we filled a huge hole he stops players well enough that he wont be replaced.

i did a list of mature picks taken in ha