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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 08, 2007, 03:22:46 PM
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Making a name for himself
Greg Lange
richmondfc.com.au
8th March 2007
HIS purple kombi van died on the way back from the club’s community camp in Phillip Island a few weeks ago, his hole-proof surfing technique is being hampered by an undersized board and he enjoys the high-pitch tones and financial advice of balding television presenter David Koch.
“I don’t mind Sunrise with Kochie … he’s a pretty funny bloke.”
Welcome to the world of exciting new recruit Jack Riewoldt. The former Tassie Mariners player was among several young squad members given a chance to strut their stuff in the Challenge Cup match against Sydney last weekend.
“I didn’t really get settled until the end of the third and into the last quarter,” Riewoldt said. “But it was just good to get a game under the belt and experience the intensity.”
Things couldn’t have gone better for him in last year’s 2006 NAB AFL Draft. He was selected with pick 13 overall by Richmond, earning him the chance to play alongside his football idol, Mathew Richardson, a player he continues to be in awe of.
“I’ve really just tried to base my game my work ethic and my outside lifestyle on what Richo does because he’s so professional,” Riewoldt said. “A lot of people don’t see that outside the club and what he does to get his body up every week.”
Rest of article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=38867
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errrr , um.
Its gone. :banghead
The link just takes me to the homepage and the story is no where to be seen.
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The link is working now for me.
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ah ha! got it. Cheers.
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Did I imagine this on the news tonight?
Go Jack.
:cheers
Apologies if I am going senile.
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Didnt see it 1965, but i was just about to post that
Soy sauce says that Reiwodlt will play this week. :thumbsup
So i think you are on the money.
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fantastic
and terry said meyer will play , well he did insinuate it.
i hope polo playes too, that means 3 changes
i hope they dont drop king and edwards
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Good to hear and congratulations to Jack. He has deserved his chance :clapping.
X is right. Terry said Meyer will come in either this week or the next. We are now on the full youth path.
As Riewoldt is a key forward I wonder who will go out? Maybe Terry will rotate Cleve and Jack off the bench at CHF with Sarge in the goalsquare and Richo roaming around like he did against the Eagles. I know Sarge kicked 4 points but I don't think Terry will drop him. Better to let him go out again and show he is usually a straight kick.
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Ch 9 late news just replayed that they believe Riewoldt will play this week.
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I would drop Pettifer, he definately needs a spell
Not sure about the others though.
Maybe Tuck, he hasnt been giving us a great deal. He is getting the footy but is a turn over king and not a smart thinker also.
They arent going to drop all of the senior players and i would think Tiv would be safe. He had a good start to the season and one average game wont get him dropped.
As for Polo, maybe a another week or 2 at Coburg will make him even hungier.
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In - Riewoldt, Polo, Meyer
Out - Pettifer (enough is enough, too afraid and soft)
- Tuck (turns the ball over way too much and isn't even effective with the hard stuff)
- Jackson / King (we need to improve our skills and these 2 just don't have it)
Over the next few weeks I'd also like more skill and youth injected in the form of Casserly, Moore, Thursfield and Connors. Maybe at the expense of players like Gaspar Jackson/King, Johnson, Tivendale, or Hyde etc.
The wheel is turning.
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Harry how can you bag king on just a couple of senior games? Gimme a break!! :banghead He does have the right stuff and real footy smarts which is lacking in some of our more senior players. I think his composure in tight situations is excellent. At the moment I would class him as serviceable but with more gametime I'm confident he will improve greatly. He has great vision and composure, he just needs to improve his footskills.
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I'm with Harry - Even though it is only a couple of games I would say King is an honest toiler and Edwards is the one with the footy smarts :thumbsup
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In - Riewoldt, Polo, Meyer
Out - Pettifer (enough is enough, too afraid and soft)
- Tuck (turns the ball over way too much and isn't even effective with the hard stuff)
- Jackson / King (we need to improve our skills and these 2 just don't have it)
Over the next few weeks I'd also like more skill and youth injected in the form of Casserly, Moore, Thursfield and Connors. Maybe at the expense of players like Gaspar Jackson/King, Johnson, Tivendale, or Hyde etc.
The wheel is turning.
Agree with the outs and ins Harry, would particularly like Connors to come in sooner rather than later. Has great confidence in his ability, can be a bit arrogant ;) but IMO will tear it up like Sherman did
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I was talking about this today with another tiger supporter...
Obviously, Jackie Riewoldt is going to be our next debutant.
Do we play him this week in Adelaide?
Or do we wait until the following week at home at the MCG in front of (fingers crossed) a big Crowd against a traditional rival in the Bombers?
Thoughts?
NB: the topic here is Jack Riewoldt :thumbsup
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Why wait? Play him now.
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let him play with coburg this week debut him against the Dons.
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How many games have Coburg played so far? Make sure he plays 7 so he's eligible for the VFL finals.
I would wait until the Dreamtime game for his debut. MCG, biggish crowd and a weaker opponent and backline (compared to Adelaide). Right up his alley :thumbsup.
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How many games have Coburg played so far? Make sure he plays 7 so he's eligible for the VFL finals.
Only 5. They had a bye.
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l like to see him brought in now while his hot & the adrenalin pumping through this lad which l have never laid eyes on but read alot how good he is
then bring him on dont waste his adrenalin & talents he was drafted for league football then play him he could be like a Dale Thomas & explode onto the scene in a big way 7 it was meant to be :thumbsup
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Why wait? Play him now.
as julz said, no point in waiting.
mick malthouse does not play games with his debutants and puts them str8 in the pressure games to see what they are made of.
jack will thrive at aami, under that kinda presssue
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well...it is true that his form certainly warrants him to debut...no doubt about it...i still think hold him back one more week so he gets to play VFL in tassie and also debut in front of a massive dreamtime crowd at the G..reckon just the atmosphere would inspire him...he's made for the bigtime...
also....our tall forwards haven't really done anythign wrong anyway....cleve was a bit quite last week (not entirely his own fault...delivery wasnt' great either)but the previous 2 weeks played well with 3 goals each..
schulz presented and converted well last week...
let the SA boys play in adelaide..
bring jack back in against the Dons...preferably without dropping cleve, schulz nor richo.
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What if it's Dreamtime at the G in torrential rain.
He won't be brought in unless there is an injury, suspension or Cleve has an absolute shocker against the Crows.
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Richmond set to promote Jack Riewoldt
The Age
May 15, 2007 - 2:39PM
Richmond look set to promote Jack Riewoldt for Friday night's AFL clash with Adelaide after the teenager proved he was physically ready to play against men.
Riewoldt, the cousin of St Kilda star Nick, kicked five goals for the Tigers' VFL affiliate last weekend and is set to earn a spot in Richmond's senior side as they chase their first win.
Richmond coach Terry Wallace said Riewoldt, 18, was close to earning his debut.
"He's right up there, he's been an emergency and came over to Adelaide last weekend," he said.
"He's very very close. It will just be how we want to balance out our side and what the weather looks like doing."
Richmond chose Riewoldt with their No.13 pick in last year's national draft and Wallace is convinced the strong-marking, 192cm forward was ready to play against mature bodies given he had done so for a while in the VFL.
"He's ready. It's when we're ready to have him in now," Wallace said.
"He knocks on the door four times a day and asks whether it's this week and has even offered himself out as a ruckman to help us out there."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Richmond-set-to-promote-Jack-Riewoldt/2007/05/15/1178995136349.html
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"He knocks on the door four times a day and asks whether it's this week and has even offered himself out as a ruckman to help us out there."
:D :thumbsup
Kick on the door, Jack.
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"He knocks on the door four times a day and asks whether it's this week and has even offered himself out as a ruckman to help us out there."
:D :thumbsup
Kick on the door, Jack.
lol...now thats the attitude we want!GO JACK!
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Channel 10 have just reported Jack is likely to play this week
Tezza said in his press conference the kid has even offering to play in the ruck ;D
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We'll be tall in the forward line with Jack, Sarge and Clever. I hope we don't drop Cleve after ineffectual game. He kicked 3 goals in each of his previous two games.
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either move schulz to defence or start 1 of the bench and rotate the 3 young forwards throughout the match. theres absolutely no need to drop any of them.
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either move schulz to defence or start 1 of the bench and rotate the 3 young forwards throughout the match. theres absolutely no need to drop any of them.
good idea..no need to drop any of them...they're our future forward line...
i say start 1 on the bench and rotate depending on the game situation...i wouldn't move schulz to defence tho...he certainly belongs in the forward line
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Exactly Peggles play all 3. Schulz Cleve and Jack are the present fwd line and will be the future fwd line. Play all 3 of them let them get a feel and an understanding of playing together. Sure they may not get much opportunity this week when comparing to the opposition but they need to play together. I am just preying that if the 3 all play and we get flogged one way or another Terry does not drop one back to Coburg the following week. Remember next week is an MCG game most of these boys future games together will be at the G. Let the boys strut their stuff Terry. :pray
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either move schulz to defence or start 1 of the bench and rotate the 3 young forwards throughout the match. theres absolutely no need to drop any of them.
Sarge is a forward so I agree with starting one on the bench and rotating them. We might create a mismatch in the process too. Jack is handy with is footy smarts when the ball hits the ground too.
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(http://realfooty.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/15/wbFOOTYriewoldt.jpg)
Jack Riewoldt training at Punt Road.
Photo: Michael Clayton-Jones
Riewoldt knocking on Terry's door
Lyall Johnson | May 16, 2007
The Age
RICHMOND'S first-round draft pick Jack Riewoldt looks likely to make his debut this week, after a number of Tigers failed to make an impact in the 40-point loss to Port Adelaide, not to mention the 157-point loss to Geelong in round six.
Richmond coach Terry Wallace yesterday described Riewoldt as "ready" to play, saying the 18-year-old, 192-centimetre forward was an emergency last week and made the trip to Adelaide to give him a taste of going away with the team.
"Very, very close," Wallace said. "It will obviously just be how we want to balance out our side, what the weather looks like doing and working out that sort of thing. He gets to win both ways this weekend, he either plays his first senior game or he goes back to Tassie to play back at home."
If keenness alone were the criterion for selection, Riewoldt would be among the first selected. "He's ready, it just when we're ready to have him in now. He knocks on the door four times a day and asks whether it is this week. He's even offered himself as a ruckman to help us out there.
"I wouldn't say that he resembles his cousin (St Kilda's Nick Riewoldt), really, he's a first-round draft selection and I think most people get excited about their young top-level draft picks put on display, and we're no different … He's a good package. He's a competitor, he likes to get out there and play, he's a natural footballer in the essence of it."
Riewoldt has been performing well in the VFL, punctuating his performances with some spectacular grabs and two five-goal hauls.
With Matthew Richardson likely to have ruck duties in the absence of Troy Simmonds, it could be the ideal time to give him his shot.
Teammate Cam Howat painted Riewoldt as a bit of a lad who was developing well as a footballer, talked "too much" and was well liked. "Jack's his own sort of man, he doesn't really need too much advice, he's just (a) go out and get the footy (type)," Howat said.
"He's a pretty enthusiastic young kid, goes for his marks, he's taken some beauties down in the VFL that I've seen. I reckon he'll really add something to our forward line. He's pretty noisy and bubbly around the place, he's always up and about and he probably talks too much sometimes. But he's a really nice guy and all the boys get along with him."
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/give-me-a-game-terry/2007/05/15/1178995158384.html
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Congrats to Jack if he gets the call up this week :clapping
Also with the forward line I hope that Lids is kept up there in a floating role.
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get him in ...
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Go Jack :cheers, I'm rapt, for along with Cleve, we are going to have another 'winner' on our forward line.
These kids just wanna take big pack marks, kick lots of goals, and they apply defensive pressure unlike our current forwards.They can help make Richmond a winning side again, I've got great faith in them.
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Go Jack :cheers, I'm rapt, for along with Cleve, we are going to have another 'winner' on our forward line.
These kids just wanna take big pack marks, kick lots of goals, and they apply defensive pressure unlike our current forwards.They can help make Richmond a winning side again, I've got great faith in them.
Spot on DC and they are reliable kicks :thumbsup. Funny how we now have more confidence in our young talls than our smalls. We still need more KPPs but ruckmen and ballwinning midfielders are more now at the top of our shopping list.
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Looks like Riewoldt has to wait at least another round before his debut :banghead
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They must be keeping Jack for next week. Debut him in front of Tiger supporters and the publicity that comes with it than interstate.
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They must be keeping Jack for next week. Debut him in front of Tiger supporters and the publicity that comes with it than interstate.
SOunds like it...
At least he gets to play at home this weekend in front of family before they trek over to Melbourne next week to watch his debut :clapping
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Richo injury opens door for Riewoldt
22 May 2007 Herald-Sun
Daryl Timms
RICHMOND forward Matthew Richardson's facial injuries have given young Tiger Jack Riewoldt a better chance of making his debut against Essendon at the MCG on Saturday night.
Riewoldt, a younger cousin of St Kilda co-captain Nick Riewoldt, was tipped to play against Adelaide on Friday, but was named as an emergency. He played for Coburg in its away clash against Tasmania.
Richardson will be sidelined for two to three weeks after suffering a broken nose, a fractured eye socket and a gash above his eye that required 13 stitches after he was accidentally kicked by teammate Andrew Krakouer on Friday night.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21772314%255E19742,00.html
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The Club said before the Port game that he'd play within a couple of weeks so Jack has to debut on Saturday night :thumbsup
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Plough said Jack will debut :clapping.
Jack said his cousin Nick has been like a big brother and told him to just go out play your natural game like the U10's.
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Great stuff and well deserved :woohoo
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Jack said his cousin Nick has been like a big brother and told him to just go out play your natural game like the U10's.
He should have played in the Geelong game then. 8) :(
Good stuff. :thumbsup
I've been hanging out to see Jack play in the seniors.
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Jack said his cousin Nick has been like a big brother and told him to just go out play your natural game like the U10's.
He should have played in the Geelong game then. 8) :(
:rollin
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Jack tracking famous steps
by: Paul Gough
Sportal
Full article at: http://sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=99099
"Forty years ago we had a guy from Clarence (in Hobart) make his debut (for Richmond) as a 19-year-old against Essendon and now 40 years later we have got another centre-half-forward from Clarence playing his first game against the Bombers," Wallace said.
Wallace said he would have no hesitation in starting Riewoldt in a game expected to attract a crowd of around 60,000.
"You are out there wanting them to play against the best so let them get out there and play," he said.
Riewoldt said he has learned to live with comparisons with his famous cousin, who has already won three best and fairests at St Kilda by the age of 24.
"I have sort of gotten use to it, Nick has been in the AFL system for six years now and is such a high-profile player," he said.
"I have always had those comparisons, obviously while I was playing for Tasmania in the VFL so I am not too conscious about it."
"We are completely different players, completely different people so I will just go out there and concentrate on what the coaching staff want me to do."
"He only lives about 10 minutes down the road from me and he has been like an older brother," Riewoldt said of the Saints' co-captain.
"And he has said to me just go out there and be yourself and go out and play like you did when you were playing under 10s."
Riewoldt said the previous biggest crowd he has played in front of was just 11,000 but judging on his assured performance at Tuesday's 'Dreamtime at the G' press conference - when he engaged in plenty of banter with the Bombers' mischievous veteran coach Kevin Sheedy - he looks the type of player who will not be fazed by the pressure of playing in front of big crowds.
"I am looking forward to it big time," he said of the chance to play in front of 60,000 fans.
"Obviously I have got my chance now and I want to grab it with two hands."
http://sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=99099
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Congrats Jack :clapping
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Jack Riewoldt to stand alone
May 22, 2007 12:00am
Article from: Herald-Sun
RICHMOND'S Jack Riewoldt has a pedigree more like Royce Hart's than his famous cousin Nick, but doesn't want to be cast in either shadow.
The Tigers will debut Riewoldt in Saturday night's AFL game against Essendon at the MCG as they chase their first win of the season.
As Tigers coach Terry Wallace noted today, it was 40 years ago that Richmond first played Hart, a gangly, strong-marking forward from Clarence, Tasmania.
Hart became a champion, and Wallace would dearly love the same of another teenager from Clarence, who gets a game because of the fractured eye socket suffered by Matthew Richardson last Friday night against Adelaide.
Most fans will immediately look for the comparison between Jack and Nick Riewoldt, St Kilda's co-captain and one of the league's modern-day stars.
Nick this week advised Jack to enjoy the moment of playing before a crowd six times bigger than any he has played in front of, and to be himself.
Jack Riewoldt knows there will be comparisons between he and his cousin, but is ready for it and now uses it to his advantage.
"I've got used to it, Nick's been in the AFL for six years now and is such a high-profile player," he said.
"So I've always had those sort of comparisons the last couple of years of playing VFL in Tasmania.
"I'm not too conscious about it.
"We're completely different players and completely different people, so I'll just go out there and concentrate on what the coaching staff want me to do and what they think leads me to playing a good game of footy."
Riewoldt admitted there had been occasions through his teenage years where he felt the expectation of his famous surname weighing heavily.
"I've had stages where you look back and think `How come I got blessed with this last name?'," he said.
"But it's got its upsides too.
"People always look in the paper and if they see your last name there they come along to the footy and see how you go."
Riewoldt said his biggest challenge over the next two days was not playing the game out in his mind.
It was here Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy tried to meddle and seized with some good-natured mind games at today's press conference.
"It's a scary game, Jack . . . there'll be 70,000 there, mate," he said.
"I'm telling you - sweat every night before you get to the game."
Wallace is likely to ease any jitters Riewoldt has by throwing him straight into the fray.
"He's out there and you want him to play against the best, so let him get out and play," Wallace said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21776052-11088,00.html
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Jack Riewoldt plays it cool
23 May 2007 Herald-Sun
Mark Robinson
THEY say he has spunk and the young bloke with the famous surname -- Jack Riewoldt -- wasn't put off by Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy's barbs down the table yesterday.
Riewoldt, 18, has been picked to play in his first game for Richmond and yesterday Sheedy playfully played mind games.
This will be Dreamtime at the 'G, Sheedy said, big crowd and plenty of noise.
"It's a scary game, Jack," Sheedy joked. "There'll be 70,000 there, mate, and you'll sweat every night before you get to the game.
"Feeling nervous, Jack?"
Riewoldt didn't bite, didn't spruik, didn't do too much at all except laugh at the Bombers coach.
"I've met Kevin a few times, at draft camp, and I had a meeting with him at Wrest Point Casino in Tasmania and he gave me a copy of his book," Riewoldt said.
"Everyone knows Kevin likes to poke fun, and it's actually a great honour to be up on the same sort of stage."
Riewoldt's selection follows a stand-out performance for Coburg against Tasmania last week.
He booted two goals in the first half and then, in a 20-minute burst in the third quarter, set up five goals and a Tigers win.
From Clarence, Tasmania, Riewoldt will likely be a centre half-forward.
For the romantics, the last centre half-forward from Clarence to debut with the Tigers was Royce Hart.
The comparison, at the moment, stays right there.
Riewoldt, a cousin of Nick, who he describes as a big brother, said his previous journey to the MCG was to watch a Carlton-Collingwood game.
"I've only been to the one game here, sat up in the old cement grandstand down that end of the G, and that was a pretty good experience," he said.
Tigers coach Terry Wallace said he would play Riewoldt from the first bounce.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21778875%255E20322,00.html
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More on Jack from the Age:
Riewoldt appreciated the irony that sitting next to him at yesterday's function was Krakouer, whose errant boot, by smashing into the face of Matthew Richardson in Adelaide last Friday, has led to his selection as the replacement key forward.
A journalist asked if he'd thanked Krakouer. "I wouldn't say I'd thanked him. Terry (Wallace) would probably rather have 'Richo' than myself. But obviously I've got my chance from that situation so I need to grab it with two hands."
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/indigenous-footys-strength/2007/05/22/1179601410576.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Good luck to Jack tomorrow night. There's been a big build-up to him playing so hopefully his self-confident personality settles the nerves and he can contribute and do the job asked of him by Plough.
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What did we all think of Jack in his debut game?
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I think he did pretty well... quick hands to give Jacko what has to be a nomination for goal of the year lol. He's got alot of enthusiasm and I would like to see him kept in the team next week :thumbsup
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4.5/10
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He was average but I liked his enthusiasm. Needs more games we must keep him in for the next 3 or 4 weeks atleast.
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Quiet night but there's something about him. I think he'll be dragging people through the turnstyles soon enough.
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Ok - lot to learn, Though the tempo of the game found him out a couple of times.
Lot to look forward too :thumbsup
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Jack shakes off the nerves
10:55 AM Mon 23 July, 2007
By Jason Phelan
for richmondfc.com.au
WITHOUT putting too much pressure on the lad, it’s fair to say that the Tigers had big plans for Jack Riewoldt when they drafted him in the first round of last year’s NAB AFL National Draft.
The 18-year-old kicked his first goal for Richmond – his first three, in fact – against Port Adelaide on Sunday and did enough to suggest the Tigers invested pick No.13 wisely.
“I’m three games in now and I’m starting to get used to the tempo; it’s good to finally get a few on the scoreboard,” Riewoldt said.
His first goal came late in the first quarter after he marked an Adam Pattison pass 40 metres out directly in front, and he admitted he was relieved to have it under his belt.
“I had a shot a couple of weeks ago against the Kangaroos and it sort of swung away to the left,” he recalled, “but this one was a bit closer in front and it went through the middle and I was pretty pumped.
“It’s good to just get that first one on the board and get the nerves out of the way.”
Riewoldt’s second major was probably the most impressive, kicked from the boundary line, and his third came after a towering mark over Port’s Troy Chaplin.
“You don’t really look to kick goals from that far out wide and I was looking for a pass off, but I had to take the shot and it just snuck in, which was good,” he said.
“I think I just got lucky [with that mark]. The ball kicked up a little bit and I got a nice little ride and it stayed in the mitts, so I was pretty pleased with that.”
As delighted as he was to have kicked off what will hopefully turn out to be an impressive career goal tally, Riewoldt was disappointed that he couldn’t be part of a win in Matthew Richardson’s 250th game.
The young Tasmanian has learnt a lot from the champion spearhead and hopes to follow in his footsteps.
“He’s my hero,” Riewoldt said. “He’s one of the main blokes I look up to at the club, and I can’t speak highly enough of his endeavour and the way he holds the Richmond Football Club in his heart. Hopefully one day I can have same sort of impact.”
Anyone who watched the game would have noticed Riewoldt’s exuberant post-goal celebrations, but don’t expect him to be retreating into his shell anytime soon.
“The last couple of weeks at Coburg I’ve been celebrating pretty hard, and Terry said during the week, ‘Don’t change your game at all’,” he said.
“That’s the person I am, so I’ll keep doing it.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=47794
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Anyone who watched the game would have noticed Riewoldt’s exuberant post-goal celebrations, but don’t expect him to be retreating into his shell anytime soon.
“The last couple of weeks at Coburg I’ve been celebrating pretty hard, and Terry said during the week, ‘Don’t change your game at all’,” he said.
“That’s the person I am, so I’ll keep doing it.”
Thank god for that. :thumbsup
Got to encourage the kids celebrate, unlike what the leadership group did to Ezra Poyas those years ago. ::)
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i don't understand why we dropped him after the essendon match ???
just let him play the rest of the season !!!
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i don't understand why we dropped him after the essendon match ???
just let him play the rest of the season !!!
Neither do I but let's move onto the fact he's cemented his place for another game next week. :thumbsup
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Jack has to stay in the senior side, done as much learning as he possibly can at the burgers.
Need to fast-track his progress into superstardum at AFL level ;D
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Jack's a bit stiff that his mark didn't make the final 3 of the AFL site's mark of the week ???
Agree with the above comments. Just play Jack for the rest of the year and don't change his game.
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with 6 rounds to go, if Jack can post another 12 or so goals it would be a a good first year for the young fella
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I'd like to see him get a bit of attitude in him. He'll get nowhere being polite. Like when Richo told him off for taking a speccy in the last quarter against Port, I would've loved to see Jack turn around and tell him that he is as entitled to the ball as Richo is.....or something like that.
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don't worry DC, young Jack has plenty of attitude ;D
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He's already very loud and proud ;D
What's the cut off age for the Rising Star award?
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He's already very loud and proud ;D
What's the cut off age for the Rising Star award?
Jack is young enough, even if he plays the rest of the year he is under the limit of 10 AFL games (will finish on 9 games IIRC assuming he plays out the season), so is still eligible next year.
As you can tell, Jack has his name engraved on the 08 Rising Star Award already ;D
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He's already very loud and proud ;D
What's the cut off age for the Rising Star award?
Jack is young enough, even if he plays the rest of the year he is under the limit of 10 AFL games (will finish on 9 games IIRC assuming he plays out the season), so is still eligible next year.
As you can tell, Jack has his name engraved on the 08 Rising Star Award already ;D
You read my mind. :bow
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Has Edwards been nominated yet? Would surprise me if he hasn't. He's an absolute beauty! He's only played 10 games but I have him pegged right up there with Lids & Polo.
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We haven't had any noms this year. :'(
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“He’s my hero,” Riewoldt said. “He’s one of the main blokes I look up to at the club, and I can’t speak highly enough of his endeavour and the way he holds the Richmond Football Club in his heart. Hopefully one day I can have same sort of impact.”
lol - that just reminded me,how young the kid is !!!
It's endearing to see.....i just hope he doesn't kick like his hero
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Has Edwards been nominated yet? Would surprise me if he hasn't. He's an absolute beauty! He's only played 10 games but I have him pegged right up there with Lids & Polo.
not yet, keep up the impressive form and one is around the corner
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Also have a gut feeling Jack will get one before years out as well
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Jack didn't get much of it tonight but loved the 65-70m bomb for a goal :clapping.
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Yeh Jack will be a great player for us.
i get the feeling he will be the one to replace richo.
similar styles of play at the same age so it shouldn't be too long before he really makes a name for himself.
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Jack didn't get much of it tonight but loved the 65-70m bomb for a goal :clapping.
that was the one that bevan let through wasn't it lol :lol
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Found this thread so i can just give this opinion. IMHO Jack Riewoldt was/is a 25 to 30 draft pick. Hes a third tall. Has shown bits and pieces but he isnt the player that I was hoping we'd see him to be,seems abit slow still. Lets just say I have concerns that whilst he will be ok down the track he may not turn out the way the Richmond supporters hope. At this stage Im no where near convinced.
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fair enough, but I for one have plenty of faith in this kid.
Will be a very good player for us :thumbsup
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fair enough, but I for one have plenty of faith in this kid.
Will be a very good player for us :thumbsup
I'll think he'll be ok :thumbsup
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Found this thread so i can just give this opinion. IMHO Jack Riewoldt was/is a 25 to 30 draft pick. Hes a third tall. Has shown bits and pieces but he isnt the player that I was hoping we'd see him to be,seems abit slow still. Lets just say I have concerns that whilst he will be ok down the track he may not turn out the way the Richmond supporters hope. At this stage Im no where near convinced.
While I agree he's a third tall, possibly a FF at best as far as holding down a KPP spot, it's still only Jack's first year and he has footy smarts, skills and an extrovert attitude which is badly needed at Punt Rd. He could become a very damaging player if we can build up more along our spine.
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Found this thread so i can just give this opinion. IMHO Jack Riewoldt was/is a 25 to 30 draft pick. Hes a third tall. Has shown bits and pieces but he isnt the player that I was hoping we'd see him to be,seems abit slow still. Lets just say I have concerns that whilst he will be ok down the track he may not turn out the way the Richmond supporters hope. At this stage Im no where near convinced.
While I agree he's a third tall, possibly a FF at best as far as holding down a KPP spot, it's still only Jack's first year and he has footy smarts, skills and an extrovert attitude which is badly needed at Punt Rd. He could become a very damaging player if we can build up more along our spine.
why I believe he will be a very good player for us, keep the faith ramps :thumbsup
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Herald-Sun says Jack flies like Richo!
Teenage forward Jack Riewoldt has brought the crowds alive in the finals with his Matthew Richardson-style high flying across the top of packs.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22462992%255E19771,00.html
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Teenage forward Jack Riewoldt has brought the crowds alive in the finals with his Matthew Richardson-style high flying across the top of packs.
A bit of a stretch with the Richo comparison but Jack is quality. A natural footballer.
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sadly hes been very average today
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average and almost not intrested. is shulz and riewodlt trying to win mark of the year instead of a grand final.
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Riewoldt is a slow 3rd tall who seems to wanna play from behind. He better change his tune if he wants a longer AFL career, you cant play from behind when you lack pace.
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Riewoldt is a slow 3rd tall who seems to wanna play from behind. He better change his tune if he wants a longer AFL career, you cant play from behind when you lack pace.
Agree entirely.
He may have all the charisma and personality in the universe but i am only interested in if he can play and currently he has flaws in his game as mentioned above.
Still it's only year one, the kid's got a heap of time yet but the hype he recieved early hasn't proven justified so far.
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jack was a bit stiff yesterday, played mopst of teh 1st half infront and teh ball kept going over his head after he made gr8 position. then he decided to play from behind cos thats where all teh kicks were going and then they kept kicking the ball short and he just looked exactly like richo when richo was/is fed bs delivery . jack was a victim of poor delivery from poor ball carriers.
geelong was just far too big and experienced and were always going to win
dropping cleve buggered up the burgers structur
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The other thing was time and time again Jack and Sarge were both flying for the same ball so Geelong had plenty of numbers at the contest and the fall of the ball.
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Jack was horrible yesterday. Lonergan wore him like a glove and then Playfair did. Nothing went his way, everything was either over his head or at his feet. :banghead :banghead
but I have no doubt he will learn from this
BTW that Geelong defender with the mop top, no. 50 i think, was superb
Read the play beautifully, had a cool head under pressure and kicked beautifully and ACCURATELY
should definitely have a look at him at least in the rookie draft
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give the kid a break, geez sometimes WE need to look at ourselves and how we put these kids up on a pedastal but by god we are bloody quick to drag down.
dont you think perhaps his over exurburance might have got the best of him, cant put a wise head on young shoulders in this situation..
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BTW that Geelong defender with the mop top, no. 50 i think, was superb
Read the play beautifully, had a cool head under pressure and kicked beautifully and ACCURATELY
should definitely have a look at him at least in the rookie draft
Scott Thompson (he who didn't seem to have an opponent) - one of only 4 VFL listed players who played yesterday
DOB: 9/5/1986 - 192cm - 88kgs from South Barwon
And yes Jack had a shocker and he wasn't alone. He will learn and will be better for it - no doubt about it
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BTW that Geelong defender with the mop top, no. 50 i think, was superb
Read the play beautifully, had a cool head under pressure and kicked beautifully and ACCURATELY
should definitely have a look at him at least in the rookie draft
Scott Thompson (he who didn't seem to have an opponent) - one of only 4 VFL listed players who played yesterday
DOB: 9/5/1986 - 192cm - 88kgs from South Barwon
And yes Jack had a shocker and he wasn't alone. He will learn and will be better for it - no doubt about it
:cheers WP, Thompson kinda reminded me of Scarlett, composure, footy smarts, skills
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Jack Riewoldt
Jack’s a really exciting young fella and good to have around the club. Played eight games this year and again, like Daniel Connors and Shane Edwards, wouldn’t have expected to play that many games this year. It was terrific for him to get games under his belt and get a feel for what it’s going to be like in the future, because he’s going to be a very exciting player for the club.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
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Happy 19th birthday today to Jack :birthday
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Happy 19th birthday today to Jack :birthday
:birthday Jack :cheers
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What are your expectations for Jack this year and what would be a good year for him?
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id like to see jack play 15+ games this seasonwith a return of around 25+ goals. But we have to remember he is only a 2nd year KPP but there is something special about this kid.
Thoughts?
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Riewoldt is right now looking like an enthusiastic, slowish, 192cm flanker who reads the game pretty well. That's ok as it's still early days..
Unfortunately though I'm not convinced about him ever making it as key forward which was my big hope when he was drafted. :-\
However something tells me he'd make a pretty handy CHB.
He has good skills and reads the play. Ideal traits IMO, just needs to bulk up.
Personally I'd play him as the third tall in defence for much of this year and see how he goes with a view of moving him into CHB in a year or two. I like him better in that role than the likes of McGuane.
Could be our next Joel Bowden at the very least.
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whatever
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Jack needs to get his fitness up to play AFL and apart from doing the work over preseason he can only do that by playing games at AFL level. He's got the footy smarts and skills and is too good for VFL level. It was good for him to play the last 6 games in a row (kicking 7 goals) especially when the side was playing a better brand of footy and won a couple of games. Agree 08, doubling the amount of games he played last year would be a good return in his 2nd year.
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11+ games, and a nomination for the Rising Star award. A top 10 finish in the NAB RS would indicate that he had some impact on some of the games that he played, so I reckon that would be a solid 2nd year effort for a KPP.
Agree with other sentiments that he may end up in defense, however he is a natural footballer so he should be given a few years to put on some weight and find his feet as a KPP.
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This is the guy I am hoping will take the big step foward this year. Each year somebody steps up and makes huge progress (Foley last year) and this year I think it will be Jack or Tambo. I am not saying he will have a Foley type year just he will be (I hope) the one to standout as the improver.
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Can I say I have no expectations.
Could go back a little or could go along leaps and bounds
Too hard too call
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17 possies and a handy foil up forward as a 3rd tall especially as the game went on when his footy smarts came into play. Well done Jack.
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Hopefully this game keeps the doubters away for a while. Was a very solid and impressive game from Jack.
Does Jack + Morton = the end of Petts?
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never doubted jack jnr, he is a footballer!
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Was very good today, showed he can play, but can he find a yard or two in pace, especially his first 2 or 3 steps, somehow he needs to find some extra speed.
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he didnt need that extra speed today cos he can read the play and has a fast footy brain. he was excellent and traversed that huge ground with ease, didnt look that slow
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he didnt need that extra speed today cos he can read the play and has a fast footy brain. he was excellent and traversed that huge ground with ease, didnt look that slow
i agree, hes a great footy mind and what he lacks in speed he definately makes up for in brains.
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from what l seen he looked confused at times
l still have my doubts about him but on a good note he presented & gets the ball more than Pettifier
not sure what position he was playing & l think Petticoat is fighting for his career this year
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he didnt need that extra speed today cos he can read the play and has a fast footy brain. he was excellent and traversed that huge ground with ease, didnt look that slow
Jack in 3 words :thumbsup
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Petts does not offer anything that Jack, Morton or even Cleve can give us. The only thing keeping him on the list is his experience and his previous position in the draft. He plays as a lead up forward but without the height and can not crumb. Someone like Jack, Morton or Cleve has more height and pace than Petts.
This year will be interesting.
Stripes
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He needs to be played and given a chance to settle in now.
He is a fantastic young kid and has a great attitude towards his football and that of the teams also.
Well done Jack.
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Hopefully this game keeps the doubters away for a while. Was a very solid and impressive game from Jack.
Does Jack + Morton = the end of Petts?
A 2nd round pick for Petts would be nice.
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anyone leaving Richmond is never worth anything but the ass, clubs wont touch them. ;D VFL standard means goodbye AFL
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riewoldt jnr will be the next o'keefe. he played really well yesterday and ran the ground to provide an extra parking option which petts never does.
good bye petticoat
well done jack
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He needs to be played and given a chance to settle in now.
He is a fantastic young kid and has a great attitude towards his football and that of the teams also.
Well done Jack.
Agree TFL. He can't learn anything more at VFL level because it won't test out his weakness (pace) and he's too footy smart for that level. He needs to be allowed time at AFL level.
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He needs to be played and given a chance to settle in now.
He is a fantastic young kid and has a great attitude towards his football and that of the teams also.
Well done Jack.
totally agree i reckon the kid would thrive in the seniors, yeh he will have his crap games but in the long term he will flourish.
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Jack only had 7 possies today but he seems to be picking up the pace at this level. I think his ground work and forward pressure has been much better since he's come back into the side and 3 goals each week is a nice cameo. I can live with that each week.
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fev had 7 kicks today also. as long as jack kicks his 2-3 goals and does the team things his rewards will com.
remember a game going back in the escort cup games, i think the tigers were playing swan districts and disco roach only had 10 touches, and 10 goals lol.
ah the good ol days
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Coming along nicely. Really hope he builds his fitness and trys to fit the ROK mould. He is such as smart footballer.
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Earnt his spot for a few weeks now. Hactually works really well with Richo (when Richo was up forward) they seem to know not to get in each others way ;D :thumbsup
Was very impressed with Jack today
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Earnt his spot for a few weeks now. Hactually works really well with Richo (when Richo was up forward) they seem to know not to get in each others way ;D :thumbsup
Was very impressed with Jack today
Agree. I've been very impressed with his last 2 weeks and I'm confident that he will be a 'keeper'. The whole forward line has improved out of sight since the focus was taken from Richo and Pettifer was suspended. We now structure up better and pressure the opposition much harder and longer, and the proof of that is in the scoreboard. Pettifer is really going to struggle to earn his spot back at the moment.
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Gotta stay in and get games under his belt, WILL be a palyer :clapping
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l still prefer Hughes to this lad but if his going to put in & play well its all good for everyone
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l still prefer Hughes to this lad but if his going to put in & play well its all good for everyone
I've got a feeling there will be room for both in the future. They are slightly different builds and types and I reckon if Hughes makes it, it will be as a KPP while Jack will play more of an upgraded Pettifer role - 3rd forward and bloody hard to match up on. Its good (and refreshing) to have choices!!
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l still prefer Hughes to this lad but if his going to put in & play well its all good for everyone
They were drafted as KPP forward:
- Hughes: 05/#24
- Reiwoldt: 06/#13
From memory. I would assume there room for both in future plans.
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dont like him
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All the best Jack, says Saint Nick
SMH
May 2, 2008 - 10:48AM
As St Kilda captain Nick Riewoldt recalls, it was not many years ago that his cousin Jack was doing work experience with the Saints.
On Saturday night at Telstra Dome, the 19-year-old forward will be part of a Richmond side trying to send St Kilda into the first break of the AFL season in negative win-loss territory.
While 25-year-old Nick is hoping Jack Riewoldt does not cause too much damage, he is happy to admit to watching his cousin's career emergence with a fair degree of family pride.
"Every week that he's played I've been interested to see when he's been named, absolutely, every week I check up on how he's gone and I'm sure he does the same," Riewoldt said.
"Being similar players and playing in similar positions makes it a little bit more interesting."
While Nick Riewoldt has four best and fairest awards to his name and the club captaincy, the career of his younger cousin is very much in its infancy.
But while Saturday night's AFL match will be just the 12th for Jack, it will be his second against Nick's Saints.
The first was round 22 last year and while Jack Riewoldt had a quiet game in a match the Saints won by 10 points, Nick acknowledges the youngster had the better of him when their paths crossed.
"Playing both as forwards we were right at different ends, but there was one stage when we were both in the same vicinity at the end of the game," Riewoldt said.
"I was pretty buggered and I think he might have been pretty fresh and he danced around me pretty easily."
The confident teenager - who was Richmond's first selection in the 2006 national draft - subsequently reminded him of that incident and Nick said there was sure to be some ribbing between them again after Saturday night's match.
But there has always been plenty of mutual support.
Jack and his parents used to travel regularly from their home in Tasmania to cheer Nick on with the Saints.
Nick was happy to offer advice as his cousin progressed towards the AFL.
"It was quite clear from an early age that he was going to be a very good footballer," Nick Riewoldt said.
"He was always very into his footy and came over and did work experience at St Kilda.
"He would have been 14 or 15 and he stayed with me."
After failing to make the Tigers' team for the first three rounds this season, Jack Riewoldt has played the past three, coinciding with a marked lift in Richmond's form.
While the Saints have won their past nine encounters with Richmond, Nick Riewoldt is wary, particularly given the unremarkable form of the Saints, who are 3-3.
"Richmond are probably the most improved side in recent weeks in the AFL," Riewoldt said.
"While it's only early days, they've turned their season around and we're in a position now where we're not going as well as we want to be.
"But our season's still very much alive and this is a crunch game for both clubs."
http://news.smh.com.au/all-the-best-jack-says-saint-nick/20080502-2a5x.html
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Keep your head up Jack. Far more positives came from your game last night than feeling down over a shot from 60m. In fact you stepped up to new level by imposing yourself on the game.
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Keep your head up Jack. Far more positives came from your game last night than feeling down over a shot from 60m. In fact you stepped up to new level by imposing yourself on the game.
The mark he took for that shot at goal was a ripper.
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Yeah bloody oath, looking more at home every week.
And the attack on that ball was just superb. :clapping
Cant fault him, was good to see Richo get straight over to him as his head dropped and then Harvey have a pretty lengthy chat as well. :thumbsup
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Great mark split the pack open and took the mark over his head with authority.
Took another step in his game last night and looked good.
Kicked a nice goal in the second quarter and cannot be blamed for not making the distance from 55-60. Magnificent thing was Richo went up to him straight away with a word of encouragement right after the kick despite the kids obvious disappointment. Starting to look good Jackie.
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blame shouldnot be layed on those shooting for goals
Blame should be layed on those who give easy goals away in the defence
l dont have to name any players l'm sure you seen the easy goals l speak about
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Just an aside - Jack's got a 17 year old brother playing for Clarence
The Clarence side had eight teenagers, including 17-year-old Harry Riewoldt, brother of Richmond's Jack and cousin of St Kilda star Nick Riewoldt.
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,23642849-3462,00.html
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I'm starting to see what u have all been saying about him.
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taken u a while
the kid is all class, shame he didnt connect and kick the goal but who cares , he is showing great signs
Great mark split the pack open and took the mark over his head with authority.
Took another step in his game last night and looked good.
Kicked a nice goal in the second quarter and cannot be blamed for not making the distance from 55-60. Magnificent thing was Richo went up to him straight away with a word of encouragement right after the kick despite the kids obvious disappointment. Starting to look good Jackie.
richo showed gr8 leadership. as did other tigers who approched him and said some kind words to him
but i was impressed by harvey, he has my respect now as he went to jack straight after richo and spoke to him. and it was nice to see cousin nick go straight to him and console him
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Great mark split the pack open and took the mark over his head with authority.
Took another step in his game last night and looked good.
Kicked a nice goal in the second quarter and cannot be blamed for not making the distance from 55-60. Magnificent thing was Richo went up to him straight away with a word of encouragement right after the kick despite the kids obvious disappointment. Starting to look good Jackie.
That quick kick back to the square under pressure where Edwards marked and goaled was also very impressive. A very disciplined and smart thing to do from a 19 year old.
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I'm starting to see what u have all been saying about him.
Glad you've seen the light ())( :rollin
a slow staert last night I thought, couple of times in the 1st qtr he needed to go hard at the opposition to put some F50 pressure on, but he got better as the night went on.
I think we should bite the bullet and leave him in the seniors for the remainder of the year. The quicker we get more games into him the better it is for the RFC :thumbsup
Blame should be layed on those who give easy goals away in the defence
l dont have to name any players l'm sure you seen the easy goals l speak about
Agreed :thumbsup
richo showed gr8 leadership. as did other tigers who approched him and said some kind words to him
but i was impressed by harvey, he has my respect now as he went to jack straight after richo and spoke to him. and it was nice to see cousin nick go straight to him and console him
I was not surprised by what Richo did - he is whether people believe it or he is not the ultimate team mate :thumbsup
But I do agree X - I am not a Harvey fan (another protected species of the whistle blowers - never gets pinged even when he does double 360's) but I thought what he did, that showed class. As for Cry Baby Nick - yeah I'll give him a tick for that too ;D
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Younger Riewoldt shows he can live up to name
Chloe Saltau
The Age
May 4, 2008
IF THERE is a player who epitomises Richmond's steady improvement, it could be Jack Riewoldt. The 19-year-old came up against the St Kilda team captained by his older cousin, Nick, for the second time in his fledgling career last night, and the pair came close to each other only twice.
First, Jack crept up behind Nick as he aimed at goal in the third quarter and yelled something in his ear. Whether it was the effect of being crunched into the turf a few seconds earlier or of the familiar voice over his shoulder, Nick missed, then limped off to have his knee packed in ice.
Second, Nick consoled Jack in the middle of the ground after the younger Riewoldt flew above a pack to grab a mark that could have defined the game. But he couldn't roost the ball long enough to clinch a famous, after-the-siren victory for the Tigers.
It was the stuff that boyhood, backyard fantasies are made of, but the kick from outside the 50-metre arc faded and was set upon by St Kilda players, keeping the Saints' unconvincing season alive and condemning Richmond, which came within a couple of goals of the red-hot Hawks a week earlier, to an honourable, three-point loss.
Riewoldt, the Tiger, was shattered, and sank to his knees as teammates came to commiserate. But the Richmond faithful must be encouraged by the emergence of a lively, decent-sized key forward to complement Matthew Richardson, now roaming further afield.
"Richo" was, as ever, the most influential Tiger on the ground against St Kilda, leaping and running and kicking improbable goals to keep the Saints from marching all over them in the final quarter. Still, it is the improvement of players like Riewoldt that will, in time, make Richmond a better team, and though he only influenced the game in patches, his touches were telling.
The junior Riewoldt is, by all accounts, a feisty character who pounded on Terry Wallace's office door until the coach gave him a game last year. Only now, after 12 games, is the confidence beginning to show on the ground. In the first quarter last night, he took a contested mark in the middle of the ground, and slipped past two Saints to deliver the pass that gave Richardson the first of five goals.
In the next term, he put the Tigers in front after running from the bench and floating forward to mark, and dobbing the goal from a tough angle and then created another by curling a kick around his body, with Brendon Goddard on his hammer and the boundary line pressing, to Shane Edwards.
Jack is a centimetre smaller than his older, more famous cousin, and slight by comparison, but he proved a slippery customer for opponents that included Goddard, Raphael Clarke and Matt Maguire.
Before Richmond drafted Riewoldt with its second pick in the 2006 national draft (the first was traded away for Graham Polak) his family used to travel from Tasmania, where his father Chris played 273 games, to watch Nick star for St Kilda, who he described as "a huge influence on me" before being drafted.
Up the other end his cousin, forced to sit out the last term on the bench after the over-zealous tackle, lamented the continuing malfunctioning of a team beefed up by the repatriation of Gehrig from the VFL and with former Eagle Michael Gardiner sharing the ruck with Justin Koschitzke.
Somehow, it fell to the 178-centimetre Stephen Milne to kick a winning score.
Against Richmond, a team determined to make a nuisance of itself, it was perhaps fitting that it took a player who has made a career of it, in Milne, to boot seven goals, shaking St Kilda out of the malaise that threatened to consume its season.
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Jack must be a show for a Rising Star nomination this week. He only played 8 games last year so he's eligible.
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Jack must be a show for a Rising Star nomination this week. He only played 8 games last year so he's eligible.
i would have liked to think so.....i think if he had kicked that winning goal...he'd be a sure thing...but....i think they may just give it to monawerirri from melbourne this week....kicked 4.....eye catching performance...
our jack's time will come....
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Before Richmond drafted Riewoldt with its second pick in the 2006 national draft (the first was traded away for Graham Polak) his family used to travel from Tasmania, where his father Chris played 273 games, to watch Nick star for St Kilda, who he described as "a huge influence on me" before being drafted.
I'm pretty sure we got Jack with our first pick in the 2006 draft. :shh ::)
The Age are absolutely poohouse with research.
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Uncle's anguish as Jack drops short
Gold Coast Bulletin
06May08
AUSSIE RULES by Roger Merrett, Terry Wilson and Nick Smart
IT WAS a tough night for Joe Riewoldt watching Saturday night's St Kilda-Richmond thriller unfold.
As St Kilda struggled to overcome the Tigers, Joe looked on in despair as son Nick went down with a bad knee injury in the third quarter after being slung in a tackle.
Then, in the gripping finale, nephew Jack Riewoldt had the chance to snatch victory for Richmond with a long-range attempt after the final siren (pictured). The kick fell short, but Joe was left wondering why Jack did not attempt a torpedo rather than a drop punt.
"He won a long-kicking competition back home in Tasmania a few years ago when he kicked one 68 metres with a torp," recalled Joe.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2008/05/06/10775_gold-coast-sport.html
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Just an aside - Jack's got a 17 year old brother playing for Clarence
The Clarence side had eight teenagers, including 17-year-old Harry Riewoldt, brother of Richmond's Jack and cousin of St Kilda star Nick Riewoldt.
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,23642849-3462,00.html
In the same side as David Boons son actually, who just go this first senior game last week.
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Jack must be a show for a Rising Star nomination this week. He only played 8 games last year so he's eligible.
i would have liked to think so.....i think if he had kicked that winning goal...he'd be a sure thing...but....i think they may just give it to monawerirri from melbourne this week....kicked 4.....eye catching performance...
our jack's time will come....
Yeah you're right peggles. Wonaeamirri won it this week.
Yep Jack should get a nomination sometime this year :thumbsup.
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Jack has been revelation this year
Is an example of a very intelligent footballer first and an athlete second.
Only 19 ( 20 in october) shows alot for someone of such a young age.
Has many strings to his bow, could end up being a 2nd or 3rd Key forward, or play the rebounding Chad Cornes role. Not dissimilar to CCornes not overly quick of foot, but very quick of mind, also has an outstanding vertical leap.
As he piles the kilos ( of muscle) on, will develop into a damn fine footballer for the tigers.
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Uncle's anguish as Jack drops short
Gold Coast Bulletin
06May08
AUSSIE RULES by Roger Merrett, Terry Wilson and Nick Smart
IT WAS a tough night for Joe Riewoldt watching Saturday night's St Kilda-Richmond thriller unfold.
As St Kilda struggled to overcome the Tigers, Joe looked on in despair as son Nick went down with a bad knee injury in the third quarter after being slung in a tackle.
Then, in the gripping finale, nephew Jack Riewoldt had the chance to snatch victory for Richmond with a long-range attempt after the final siren (pictured). The kick fell short, but Joe was left wondering why Jack did not attempt a torpedo rather than a drop punt.
"He won a long-kicking competition back home in Tasmania a few years ago when he kicked one 68 metres with a torp," recalled Joe.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2008/05/06/10775_gold-coast-sport.html
should have MAlcom Blighted it in hindsight
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Yep Ox. Always go the torp outside 50 :thumbsup
Jack has been revelation this year
Is an example of a very intelligent footballer first and an athlete second.
Only 19 ( 20 in october) shows alot for someone of such a young age.
Has many strings to his bow, could end up being a 2nd or 3rd Key forward, or play the rebounding Chad Cornes role. Not dissimilar to CCornes not overly quick of foot, but very quick of mind, also has an outstanding vertical leap.
As he piles the kilos ( of muscle) on, will develop into a damn fine footballer for the tigers.
Agree blaisee. He's lost the puppy fat he was carrying when he was first drafted so he's now able to show his wares as well as get to contests and keep the ball inside our forward 50.
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Onlty 19?
I can only imagine/hope how good he may become.
:cheers
Needs to practice his torps though. :lol
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Jack has been revelation this year
Is an example of a very intelligent footballer first and an athlete second.
Only 19 ( 20 in october) shows alot for someone of such a young age.
Has many strings to his bow, could end up being a 2nd or 3rd Key forward, or play the rebounding Chad Cornes role. Not dissimilar to CCornes not overly quick of foot, but very quick of mind, also has an outstanding vertical leap.
As he piles the kilos ( of muscle) on, will develop into a damn fine footballer for the tigers.
he is a SMART footballer, something this club hasnt had for many a year.
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yep lets hope he is a cross b/w whitnalls footy smarts and richos endurance /fitness
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dont rate him very much as our future
Cleve Hughes would have kicked that easy & won us the game
all forwards should be able to kick 60-65 metres drop punts at that age 19
If Newman can kicked to the centre of the ground from fullback why cant Rewoldt kick 55 metres
poo l'm a old man & can still kick accurate 55 metre goals & my son puts them through on the weekends from 50 & his playing U14's
so it wont be long before Hughes takes his forward position
Moore should have kicked his shot at goal as well there no excuses
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monk, i have seen jack kick over 55m, so next time it happens he will snag it. richo has missed easier shots than that but we all agree he has been a champ
he actually kicked a winning goaL FROM 50 FOR THE burgers after the siren iirc last yr
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I disagree with everyone who is going on about him going the torp. Not many can kick a torp consistently well, and they often go very badly when attempted in games. Imagine the reaction if he'd gone the torp and it had gone of the side of the boot and only travelled 30m? He would have been the laughing stock. He did the right thing.
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Geez Monk, you're so hard to please! I bet if you won the lottery, you'd complain about having to go to the bank! ::) If you are basing Jacks game on one kick then that says it all! :banghead I thought he had a great game and he will learn from that last shot on goal. Mark my words! Kicking a goal from outside 50 isn't everything. There are stacks of people playing park footy out there who can kick that long, doesn't mean they would make a good AFL player. I knew a guy once who could drive a golf ball consistently 240m plus. Problem was he putted the same way. You've got to have it all to make it and I believe Jack is showing far more promise than Cleve atm.
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Cleve Hughes would have kicked that easy & won us the game
Not the way Cleve's been kicking this year. At times he's struggled to kick it 40m let alone 50.
His accuracy aint been too good either
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jack is having a real crack
thats all we want, he will be a gem, and come next yr, everyone will be saying he should have been no1 pick!
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I disagree with everyone who is going on about him going the torp. Not many can kick a torp consistently well, and they often go very badly when attempted in games. Imagine the reaction if he'd gone the torp and it had gone of the side of the boot and only travelled 30m? He would have been the laughing stock. He did the right thing.
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I agree Jezza, he did the right thing, many before have done the same thing and many more will continue to do so, and players that have a lot more experience than Jack, have done the same.....he's going to feel like crap for a little while but they seem to get over it quicker than us supporters :gotigers
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Geez Monk, you're so hard to please! I bet if you won the lottery, you'd complain about having to go to the bank! ::) If you are basing Jacks game on one kick then that says it all! :banghead I thought he had a great game and he will learn from that last shot on goal. Mark my words! Kicking a goal from outside 50 isn't everything. There are stacks of people playing park footy out there who can kick that long, doesn't mean they would make a good AFL player. I knew a guy once who could drive a golf ball consistently 240m plus. Problem was he putted the same way. You've got to have it all to make it and I believe Jack is showing far more promise than Cleve atm.
;D Dont need to win lotto Tiga :thumbsup l'm well off as it is now ;D but can never have enough :thumbsup l love money but never venture to the bank thats the wifey job otherwise she be sacked ;D
dont get me wrong young jack can play football & maybe l am a bit hard on the lad after it was the end of the game ;D he be exshausted & fatigued so l will admit l'm a bit harsh, But if TW dont start playing Hughes he be damaged goods & will venture elsewhere :thumbsup
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Healy tonight was comparing McKinley of the Eagles and Jack. He said both were at the same stage at the start of the year but Jack has lost the puppy fat and got himself fit. Healy also said the next thing Jack should do is train like a midfielder and then he'll really become a star.
Jack also got a big wrap in the Herald-Sun today.
Tiger Jack Riewoldt maturing as a top centre half-forward
Jay Clark | July 14, 2008
RICHMOND is licking its lips at the prospect of Jack Riewoldt maturing into one of the league's premier centre half-forwards.
After a slow start to his AFL career, the 19-year-old came of age yesterday, leading Richmond to a crushing 77-point win against West Coast at Subiaco Oval.
His five straight goals and impressive marking kept his team's finals hopes alive and showed the Tigers forward line may have a bright future without Matthew Richardson.
While Riewoldt, the younger cousin of St Kilda star Nick, was outstanding, gathering eight marks and 17 possessions in just his 19th game,
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24014612-19742,00.html
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Bomber supporter on BB and BF saying it's not official yet but Jack's got the rising star nomination for round 15 for his 5 goals in Richo's absence.
If that's true then a big congrats to Jack :clapping. Our second nomination for the year.
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Tiger Jack Riewoldt maturing as a top centre half-forward
Jay Clark | July 14, 2008
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After a slow start to his AFL career, the 19-year-old came of age yesterday, leading Richmond to a crushing 77-point win against West Coast at Subiaco Oval.
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lol. Slow start. He's 19 FFS! How fast do they expect a kid to mature and become AFL standard and hardened. Jay Clark has been reading too many football forums.
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Wtf is his problem?
Why must he always BARK orders to the entire forward line Every time he misses a shot on goal? - and these times are many.
Is it his way of deflecting the heat of missing another goal,a zone of mental safety,a place for him to hide?
It's not as though anyone really listens to him,ffs,i mean,why would you?
He's a big mouth who's performances dont match his blah-blah.
Plenty of work to do here...start with kicking straight under pressure(including not too short) and most importantly STFU!
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Jack needs to get into the gym and work on building up his quad and calf muscles in his legs to generate more power and distance in his kicking. Once he gets beyond 35m out he struggles to kick straight or even make the distance :-\.
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Totally over rated player that started by being over rated by media commentators and blissfully followed by the herd mentality of the public. He is a very ordinary footballer that unfortunatly for us has a relationship and name that links to a real one.
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he is young and a great mark for his size. will get better
what he does is show leadership. and tries to ensure the fwds are in position in their zones or other set ups as sppn as he misses a shpt
good on him, he is still a better kick than richo
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he is still a better kick than richo
Inside 30-35m yep; Outside that range nup.
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he is still a better kick than richo
Inside 30-35m yep; Outside that range nup.
but his feild kicking on both right and left feet poo all over richo, richo cant kick the ball in general play as good as jack
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What do some people expect from a 20 year old kid. 38 goals from 36 games is not that bad.
Cousin Nick had 53 goals from 48 games after his first 3 years.......Jacks on track to match that.
Problem with us tiger mob....we expect too much too soon.
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What do some people expect from a 20 year old kid. 38 goals from 36 games is not that bad.
Cousin Nick had 53 goals from 48 games after his first 3 years.......Jacks on track to match that.
Problem with us tiger mob....we expect too much too soon.
100% Correct, Tambling is going well so they need someone to bag.. ::)
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Totally over rated player that started by being over rated by media commentators and blissfully followed by the herd mentality of the public. He is a very ordinary footballer that unfortunatly for us has a relationship and name that links to a real one.
FFS, he's only 20. ::) Want more do you want from a kid taking the number 1 key backman in the opposing team most weeks??
Sure he's not setting the world on fire but few 20 year old (or under) key forwards are, and he's showed time and time again VFL is childs play for him so how about we show some bloody patience for a change and let him grow?
A bit of perspective if I may. If he'd kicked 3.1 instead of 1.3 there would be praise for 3 games of good form (well in my opinion he was good against Freo and the Dogs) he's shown since returning from being dropped. He had an off kicking for goal night, so be it.
That said I agree with bracket's OP and think it is a method of deflection in an attempt to get the heat off himself.
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he is still a better kick than richo
Inside 30-35m yep; Outside that range nup.
but his feild kicking on both right and left feet poo all over richo, richo cant kick the ball in general play as good as jack
I was talking about goalkicking when they play forward. They are different players otherwise with Richo a big KPP and Jack really more a 3rd tall. I like Jack as he has footy smarts around goal and yes he's still young but he needs to strengthen his legs to be able to kick those goals from 40-50m out he struggles with.
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i dont get to see live games, but the tv always focusses on the kicker after a behind, so naturally you'd think he always does it after he misses a goal. question is though, does he do it when anyone else misses... you probably can't tell, well not from watching on tv thats for sure.
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he is still a better kick than richo
Inside 30-35m yep; Outside that range nup.
but his feild kicking on both right and left feet poo all over richo, richo cant kick the ball in general play as good as jack
Richo's left little finger can do more than Jacky boy will ever do. Silly boy Tiger.
GO TIGES!!!
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Personally, people that talk before they can walk pee me off a bit (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry016.gif)
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got no problem with Jack. He will improve.
Its our forward line that needs help. We are one big man short of getting that area right and i think once Jack becomes the 2nd big man up he will improve.
As it stands now he is our main target and i dont think it sits well with him.
We desperately need a big forward if we are to go anywhere
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He's the best performed key forward from the 2006 draft at the moment.
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i dont get to see live games, but the tv always focusses on the kicker after a behind, so naturally you'd think he always does it after he misses a goal. question is though, does he do it when anyone else misses... you probably can't tell, well not from watching on tv thats for sure.
Good point from what I have seen he constantly talks.
He's the best performed key forward from the 2006 draft at the moment.
Another good point, ATM I am happy with his progress, do I wish he was doing more; sure, but the signs are good and there are games he is having an impact on
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What do some people expect from a 20 year old kid. 38 goals from 36 games is not that bad.
Cousin Nick had 53 goals from 48 games after his first 3 years.......Jacks on track to match that.
Problem with us tiger mob....we expect too much too soon.
This is what I think to. So why add to it.
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And on Saturday night Walls and co were saying how he could never match up to his famous cousin because he is not the same size so could never be a key position player. Interesting thing - both are listed as 193cm tall on the club websites, Jack at 20 is 87kgs and Nick at 26 is 96kgs. Give him time and he can very easily become a kpp.
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What a rubbish thread the boy is 20 years old.
How was Cleve Hughes, Jay Shcultz going at 20 years of age. FML drug addict you post some garbage.
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And on Saturday night Walls and co were saying how he could never match up to his famous cousin because he is not the same size so could never be a key position player. Interesting thing - both are listed as 193cm tall on the club websites, Jack at 20 is 87kgs and Nick at 26 is 96kgs. Give him time and he can very easily become a kpp.
I think someone, perhaps Jack, said that he is ever so slightly taller than Nick
I think it's the way he runs which gives the perception that he's shorter, certainly as a junior he had an odd running style
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Jack is going to be a good player for us. He does need to gain more strength, that will come over the next couple of years.
Anyone that sees Jack play for Coburg would know he is actually a very good kick for goal, he gets the yips a little playing for Richmond. This will improve with experience.
As for him yelling orders, Jack is extremely extroverted and all he is doing is making sure we set up our zone properly for the kick in. Jack is a leader and something we need more of is people like him being vocal on the ground.
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What a rubbish thread the boy is 20 years old.
How was Cleve Hughes, Jay Shcultz going at 20 years of age. FML drug addict you post some garbage.
Cleve and co were the same as they are now -DUDS - :rollin :rollin :wallywink
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What a rubbish thread the boy is 20 years old.
How was Cleve Hughes, Jay Shcultz going at 20 years of age. FML drug addict you post some garbage.
dont put Jack in the same breath as those 2 duds Schulz and Hughes.
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In the fullness of time all will be bourne out, but unless this kid can get some quality guidance and direction and I mean REAL quality guidance and direction he will fail as a top notch player.
Right now I would trade him while the rest of the competition think he has some currency.
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Right now I would trade him while the rest of the competition think he has some currency.
Yeah, who needs a forward structure anyway.
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Yeah, who needs a forward structure anyway.
Plus we have all those other KPP forwards knocking on the door ::)
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Top mark by Jack tonight but his goalkicking has gone to the dogs. He is getting enough chances each week to kick 3-4 goals a game but is shanking them every week. As a forward you're paid to kick goals. If his routine is to spin the footy in his hands then he should cut it out and just focus on directing a still ball properly onto his foot.
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
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not good enough.
Trade.
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not good enough.
Trade.
He is a Gold Coast lad, maybe we can offload him there
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He is a Gold Coast lad, maybe we can offload him there
Nick's from GC. Jack's from Tassie ;)
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He is a Gold Coast lad, maybe we can offload him there
Nick's from GC. Jack's from Tassie ;)
Darn it lol
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jack will be a good player in a good team. he needs help and wasnt the reason we lost yesterday
sylvester = pathetic is lost at this level, just a vfl player
edwards = just not good enough
hislop = why in the hell did we draft him
collins = jury still out
cotchin = lost pace and has al th eclass but is definately not fit
deledio = needs to believe in himself more and see ritchies hypnotherapist
cousins = fantastic but has to stop handball to players under pressure
newman = :banghead :banghead :banghead
but really we cant whinge about the los, that team should have been slaughtered by the crows and well done to twig for his coaching and the many players who did show great signs
vickery and post showed great signs
tambling is now officially our best player
tuck is a machine
likewise jackson
mguane anf thursty were very gallant and very good
moore seemed to be gettiing over his shoulder
nahas keeps on impressing
morton played his best game defensively for us and was involved in many goal asists
gus made early errors which coast us goals but is developing into a good ruck and can be damaging up fwd
cousins besides a few crap handpasses is a clas act
deledio showed better signs buts needs to believe
foley finally got injured, he wont be missed
we do have some good kids , just some crap ones too
you are only as good as your worst players becasue they are the ones that can lose games for u and win games for u
we lost the game in the forst 20 minutes after that we were the dominant team
maybe we are tanking
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
are u offering moi lol
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
are u offering moi lol
Yes, I reckon I could put him in a trance he wouldn't forget ;)
:lol
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
are u offering moi lol
Yes, I reckon I could put him in a trance he wouldn't forget ;)
:lol
yes im sure you could hypnotise many with your head work
now im getting dirty, ah who cares all in fun
where can we join the q lol
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what an earth has happened to JRs kicking, he was actually quite a good kick in first couple of seasons, now travelling at 30% conversion...just not good enough :banghead
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what an earth has happened to JRs kicking, he was actually quite a good kick in first couple of seasons, now travelling at 30% conversion...just not good enough :banghead
when ever he goes for goal and has time to think about it, he starts thinking about moi and her expert work and just gets him so weak at the knees he cant kick
damn u moi lol :lol :lol :lol
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
are u offering moi lol
Yes, I reckon I could put him in a trance he wouldn't forget ;)
:lol
lol, well nothing else is working down there froarsy, go for it :o
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what an earth has happened to JRs kicking, he was actually quite a good kick in first couple of seasons, now travelling at 30% conversion...just not good enough :banghead
I reckon the missed handball to Morton in the Sydney game when he got tackled from behind by Mattner in the last quarter when we were coming home with a wet sail has really dented the lads confidence. The week before the Sydney game he looked like a star against the Roos especially once Richo went off injured he really stepped up.
Clearly its a confidence thing not an ability thing. The boy clearly can play. I am optimistic that that Sydney incident has been spoken about to him in a positive light by Jade and the lad can come out of it at the other end a better player.
It worked for Morton within a fortnight of the Port incident. Different strokes for different folks. :thumbsup
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Another player we just have to keep playing this year regardless of form.
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
If that is the case why did he pass the ball over to Lids when he was in a much better position himself to kick for goal :banghead
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Jack needs a head job :o akin to Richie and his hypnotherapy
Definitely got the yips
:help
are u offering moi lol
Yes, I reckon I could put him in a trance he wouldn't forget ;)
:lol
lol, well nothing else is working down there froarsy, go for it :o
If the same conversation was taking place with the genders swapped there would be an outcry.
Imagine if some fat disgusting old bloke offered to go down on a 20 year old young girl.
...and the rest of you urged him on.
Disgusting behaviour, although I am beginning to realise that some posters on this site belong in the gutter.
You should be ashamed.
:chuck
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
If that is the case why did he pass the ball over to Lids when he was in a much better position himself to kick for goal :banghead
I hardly see how that one example outdoes the rest of his career, but I could guess at two reasons why he did the above
1) His confidence is down
2) He's been constantly critisised for not playing team football so he's looking for an option to bring his teammates into the game
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grow up, there's no place for patronising tirades on a fans forum, was all in jest and most would have had a rib tickling laugh over it...pull your head out of your crack and smell the roses :whistle
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When did Fred Nile join the forum?
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
That means what exactly?? His so called strength for kicking for goal actually brings out his selfishness, because thats all he cares about.
He would rather try kick a flashy goal or take a flashy mark than block, shepherd or tackle an opponent.
He is the most selfish footballer in the league. Richo is not a good kick, Nick Ruey isn't either so what kind of footballers are they?? I
I wouldnt even mention Jack R and that fool in the same breath. Jack R NEEDS help in the forward line. Till he does i wont judge him.
its holding to that useless prick Petrified which sets us back year in year out. People like him should be sent out of our club immediately.
stuff THE prick OFF NOW
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
That means what exactly?? His so called strength for kicking for goal actually brings out his selfishness, because thats all he cares about.
He would rather try kick a flashy goal or take a flashy mark than block, shepherd or tackle an opponent.
He is the most selfish footballer in the league. Richo is not a good kick, Nick Ruey isn't either so what kind of footballers are they?? I
I wouldnt even mention Jack R and that fool in the same breath. Jack R NEEDS help in the forward line. Till he does i wont judge him.
its holding to that useless prick Petrified which sets us back year in year out. People like him should be sent out of our club immediately.
stuff THE prick OFF NOW
For Geez sake, all I said was Petts is a reliable kick for goal
I didn't say he was the solution to all our problems or propose we nominate him for captain
What is wrong with you?
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Infamy, dont you realise that there is one thing you cant do on any thread is say something positive about Petts, hang on 2 things-say anything positive about Wallace, hang on 3 things- say anything positive about shane edwards, hang on 4 things-say anything positive about jordan mcmahon, hang on 5 things-say anything positive about jay shultz, hang on 6 things-say anything positive about craig mccrae..... i could go on but basically we can see the pattern! Danny doesnt like us saying anything positive about Richmond as it is easier to criticise someone so you are compared favourably to them than to work hard to achieve the same result.
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Infamy, dont you realise that there is one thing you cant do on any thread is say something positive about Petts, hang on 2 things-say anything positive about Wallace, hang on 3 things- say anything positive about shane edwards, hang on 4 things-say anything positive about jordan mcmahon, hang on 5 things-say anything positive about jay shultz, hang on 6 things-say anything positive about craig mccrae..... i could go on but basically we can see the pattern! Danny doesnt like us saying anything positive about Richmond as it is easier to criticise someone so you are compared favourably to them than to work hard to achieve the same result.
basket case
:sleep
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
That means what exactly?? His so called strength for kicking for goal actually brings out his selfishness, because thats all he cares about.
He would rather try kick a flashy goal or take a flashy mark than block, shepherd or tackle an opponent.
He is the most selfish footballer in the league. Richo is not a good kick, Nick Ruey isn't either so what kind of footballers are they?? I
I wouldnt even mention Jack R and that fool in the same breath. Jack R NEEDS help in the forward line. Till he does i wont judge him.
its holding to that useless prick Petrified which sets us back year in year out. People like him should be sent out of our club immediately.
stuff THE prick OFF NOW
For Geez sake, all I said was Petts is a reliable kick for goal
I didn't say he was the solution to all our problems or propose we nominate him for captain
What is wrong with you?
you dont bring losers like Petrified's name up and expect to get a nice welcome.
same goes for Richo 12's love children Mclovin and Edwards. Say hi to them down Commercial Rd wont you Richo12Jack R's kicking will get better when his confidence does. He needs help
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He reminds me of Petts, the way he likes to take a grab but can't kick.
Are you sure about that?
Critisise Petts all you like for everything else, the one strength he has is that he is a reliable kick for goal
That means what exactly?? His so called strength for kicking for goal actually brings out his selfishness, because thats all he cares about.
He would rather try kick a flashy goal or take a flashy mark than block, shepherd or tackle an opponent.
He is the most selfish footballer in the league. Richo is not a good kick, Nick Ruey isn't either so what kind of footballers are they?? I
I wouldnt even mention Jack R and that fool in the same breath. Jack R NEEDS help in the forward line. Till he does i wont judge him.
its holding to that useless prick Petrified which sets us back year in year out. People like him should be sent out of our club immediately.
stuff THE prick OFF NOW
For Geez sake, all I said was Petts is a reliable kick for goal
I didn't say he was the solution to all our problems or propose we nominate him for captain
What is wrong with you?
you dont bring losers like Petrified's name up and expect to get a nice welcome.
same goes for Richo 12's love children Mclovin and Edwards. Say hi to them down Commercial Rd wont you Richo12Jack R's kicking will get better when his confidence does. He needs help
FFS, I didn't bring up Pettifer you moron
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As I said, a head case :banghead
Could have won that but for our kicking ???
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As I said, a head case :banghead
Could have won that but for our kicking ???
The other parts of Jack's game have improved quite a bit. It's his goalkicking that's the issue. Sort that out (will probably have to wait until the preseason to do it) and we'll have a player. Most forwards btw are headcases :lol.
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Showed some good signs.
Not there yet.
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What do you reckon?
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Nope.
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Might get a gun for him?
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no way. everyone talks about how kpp take longer to develop but no one is giving this kid a chance, his yr has not been as bad as many think considering how bad we are travelling and how bad we deliver the ball inside 50
jack will be a gun dont worry about that
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Im a big supporter of trading out this year but to JW whilst he is not a superstar he is a keeper - so from me its a no.
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No way, its hard to get forwards who compete and Jack can only get better. Could even make a good CHB
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I'm just not that convinced with him. He seems a bit of a nuff. If we keep him I hope your right and he becomes a superstar for us. Before everyone else realises he is a nuff and we dont get as much for a trade on him down the track. He could be a superstar but something tells me it wont be at Richmond.
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No way in the world, why would we trade away the only tall forward we have and for what, he is only 20 or so years old. By the time we have finished trading away players like; Lids, Foley, McGuane, Raines, Moore, Reiwoldt, Thursty and just about every other player in the team that has been mentioned for trade we will be in a worse state than what we are.
We need to build this team around some players and we need to let these players mature NOT trade them away. There is nothing wrong with Reiwoldt and in time he will be one of the best Forwards in the comp IMO so stick fat with these players for God's sake.
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The fact that Riewoldt takes strong marks in the forward line and has a presence means he should be a keeper. Forget his conversion rate at the moment. His cousin had all sorts of question marks over him early and his conversion rate wasn't flash.
No do what WAT says and build a team around him
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Hey camboon, I like that idea as a CHB.
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
No.
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Yeah good idea, we'll try trade him for either Sellar, Thorpe, Gumbleton, Hansen or Reid.
They're all from the 2006 draft and are performing so much better than Jack. ::)
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I'm just not that convinced with him. He seems a bit of a nuff.
Stupid! The best performed 20 yo KPP from his draft class. There is a nuff involved here, but it ain't Jack.
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Hhhhhm, let me think.
A 20 year old key position player with 39 games under his belt in his 3rd year, averaging nearly 13 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles and 3 shots at goal per game in a developing team screaming out for key position players. If he had kicked straighter we would all be lauding him as the second coming. He averages more disposals, marks, tackles and shots at goal than Tom Hawkins in a team that starves it's kpp forwards by comparison. Get real.
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Hhhhhm, let me think.
A 20 year old key position player with 39 games under his belt in his 3rd year, averaging nearly 13 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles and 3 shots at goal per game in a developing team screaming out for key position players. If he had kicked straighter we would all be lauding him as the second coming. He averages more disposals, marks, tackles and shots at goal than Tom Hawkins in a team that starves it's kpp forwards by comparison. Get real.
has shown a heap more than
Thorpe
Dowler
both Browns
Gumbleton
Sellar
hansen
is critical to the future of this club
basically any KP around his age
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Crazy talk.....No Way
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Agree no way this kid could be traded.
Would be football suicide if the club thought otherwise.
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I'm just not that convinced with him. He seems a bit of a nuff.
A 'nuff'???
Don't think I've ever seen such an in your face, enthusiastic team player as Jack. Together with Patto and Will he has injected a bit of 'go' and team spirit into a Club that was once very introverted. On these grounds, together with his onfield improvement & potential no way . No way.
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All good and valid points. I will remember them all as we watch his career unfold. I really hope you are all right and my perception of him is wrong.
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bad idea
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Possibly the stupidest thread of the year.
Trading needs to become an absolute last resort for Richmond.
We have used it unsuccessfully for too long.
Just de-list and draft for a couple of years - you want someone experienced? Get them in December.
You want more 1st round picks? Tank this year.
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Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.
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No!
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Trade him now, He will not make it.
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depends on who and what they want to give up for him.
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6 goals....not a bad effort for a 20 yr old kid
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Vickery Riewoldt Nahas Post Morton. Not a bad forward line for the future. :thumbsup
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Vickery Riewoldt Nahas Post Morton. Not a bad forward line for the future. :thumbsup
Add another big key forward as Vickery will go into ruck as he matures and another nippy small/midsize forward with good defensive pressure to replace Browny and the forward line is looking very healthy and potent.
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no way. everyone talks about how kpp take longer to develop but no one is giving this kid a chance, his yr has not been as bad as many think considering how bad we are travelling and how bad we deliver the ball inside 50
jack will be a gun dont worry about that
yep, he will be a gun bec he has work ethic and charisma
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Vickery Riewoldt Nahas Post Morton. Not a bad forward line for the future. :thumbsup
Add another big key forward as Vickery will go into ruck as he matures and another nippy small/midsize forward with good defensive pressure to replace Browny and the forward line is looking very healthy and potent.
I hope Gourdis can be that player, I certainly now think we need to take a midfielder with our first pick this year, especially as the kpp stocks are meant to be low. Dustin Martin will probably be the best option, although maybe we load up up forward and look at Butcher who may still be around.
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Can someone please delete this thread this is genuinely embarrassing to be on here.
*shakes head.
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:rollin
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Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers
Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals
Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009
So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.
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Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers
Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals
Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009
So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.
Well done!... :clapping
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Was a silly thread from day one.
PS:Anyone proud of Edwards, been very good this month and has silenced the vitrolic ones.
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Was a silly thread from day one.
PS:Anyone proud of Edwards, been very good this month and has silenced the vitrolic ones.
Yes, he has been better. Both him and Jake King appear to have lifted since Rawlings took over. They are not 'done deal' for delisting that they both appeared 6 weeks ago.
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Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers
Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals
Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009
So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.
Well done!... :clapping
What's even better is that his last 3 games have got him 6, 3 & 3 goals, so his current form is very good. Given our next few games are against bottom sides, I'd expect him to come close to averaging over 2 goals a game before the year is over.
Edwards was never going to be delisted as some thought, I'm wrapped to see him playing with confidence again. King was contracted for next year anyway, but his disposal efficiency is right up there for the past two weeks and his brain fades are greatly reduced. I always thought he'd make a pretty handy tagger, so perhaps he isn't gone just yet.
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It's a bit strange Infamy in that King's better play seems to coincide with playing more of a mid-field role. I wonder if we have unfairly pigeon-holed him as solely a defender?
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It's a bit strange Infamy in that King's better play seems to coincide with playing more of a mid-field role. I wonder if we have unfairly pigeon-holed him as solely a defender?
I've suggested the move on various forums before and been shouted down by the ferals. I think he has the perfect makeup for a tagger. He's fast, extremely hard at it and can clearly get in an opponents head. By playing further up field his disposal issues are also much less of an issue and he can sneak forward for a goal occasionally, funnily enough he's not a bad shot for goal.
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Can someone please delete this thread this is genuinely embarrassing to be on here.
*shakes head.
C'mon Pope, we could probably get about 3 top ten draft picks for him now couldn't we?
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Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.
100% spot on. We should try and do a player for player trade to get this type of player.
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Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.
100% spot on. We should try and do a player for player trade to get this type of player.
You have to trade quality for quality and we don't have much to trade away
Stop looking for the quick fix and build from the draft
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Its hard to build from the draft when you dont have good picks. It will be harder still when Gold Coast and West Sydney comes in. In fact building from the draft would be almost impossible imho. Lets not forget, we got Mitch Morton as a trade from another club. Essendon got Prismall, its not there fault we pulled the wrong rain and went with Thomson. We could have had Prismall. Anyway, trading for a specific need isnt bad. Im not advocating wholesale recruiting just a recruiting play for 1 player. A power forward who can kick straight. That is all.
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Yeah cause they're a dime a dozen and can be traded for a 3rd-4th round pick like Morton & Prismall were
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Jumping Jack keeps his team, and others, happy
Jake Niall | July 27, 2009
THE first Richmond player to whom Alastair Clarkson should be sending a thank-you card for keeping Hawthorn within reach of the eight is Jack Riewoldt.
When Matthew Lloyd couldn't stand up because of his wounded heel, and Scott Lucas was equally ineffectual without an excuse, besides his age, Riewoldt played what his coach Jade Rawlings believed was his best game in the AFL, given "the fact that it was in a big game".
If Richmond was well served by Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin, none made as telling a contribution as the Nordic Tasmanian who contributed 6.1 of his extended family's 11.2 score over two games.
Riewoldt had four opponents. He started with a first-year player, Michael Hurley, and finished up on Dustin Fletcher, a 17-year superstar, with Adam McPhee and Tayte Pears the others who failed to quell his influence.
Riewoldt's ability to mark the ball, to read the game and out-smart quicker opponents has been evident since his debut. But there were a few slows on him, the first being his capacity to convert, especially the crucial shots — some have wondered whether this was family trait, though his cousin has been pretty accurate of late.
"Our conversion has been a bit poor, and myself has been a bit poor over the start of the first sort of 12 weeks," said Riewoldt. "The last sort of three weeks, I've really been back on track and kicking straight …"
He said there was "nothing wrong" with his set-shot technique, and, from what one can gather, he kicks straight and long at training. "It's just a confidence thing and I've got my confidence back now and I know I'm a good kick and the rest of the forwards know we're good kicks."
The other "slow" on Riewoldt was his modest leg speed for a player who, at 192 centimetres, is at the shorter end of key forwards. But Riewoldt also has two significant assets that were on display yesterday: his footy smarts and the age-old immutable skill that has enabled Lloyd to boot more than 900 goals — the ability to take a mark. At least twice yesterday, he flew very high attempting screamers that he couldn't quite hold. "Got a couple of nice rides today, couldn't grab hold of them, which is a bit disappointing."
Riewoldt has strong hands, and despite his lack of pace, possesses an above-average leap, which compensates for the fact that he doesn't burn grass like Buddy Franklin; on the footballer-athlete scale, he tips firmly in the direction of the former.
While Riewoldt was the main target yesterday, Rawlings acknowledges that, long-term, he would be best with a tall power forward alongside him. "I think he needs another foil, definitely. I think (Jayden) Post is trying to be that, and I couldn't be happier with his development and his work rate. There's a bloke who wears No. 12 (Matthew Richardson) who might be able to give him a bit of chop out when he comes back for a little while; we'll see how long that is.
"But definitely I think Jack will work well in the future with another in behind him, because he shows he can play full-forward and centre half-forward equally as well."
Riewoldt added on the issue of a power-forward accomplice: "Long term it'd be nice to get a power forward down there. But you look at Jayden Post, he's 194-195 (centimetres). He's probably the key, the answer to the thing."
If Hawthorn owes Riewoldt, there's some give-and-take between the parties considering that the Tiger forward has been tutored one-on-one by former Hawk great Dermott Brereton, a part-time teacher of forwards at Punt Road. Brereton, he said, had been particularly helpful in improving his leading.
"Dermott, he's just explaining, going back to the basics and working on those again. He's been a massive help, probably couldn't have asked for a better coach actually," he said.
Riewoldt was modest and laconic about his performance, noting that the delivery from the midfield was "sensational". Surprisingly enough, aided by the inclusions of Cousins and Cotchin, Richmond truly did use the ball by foot better than the Bombers.
"It was my week this week," said Riewoldt. "It might be Mitch Morton or Robin Nahas or Jayden Post next week." And Jack's week meant as much to Hawthorn and Carlton as it did to the Tigers.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/jack-keeps-them-all-happy/2009/07/26/1248546629298.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Jack are kidding themself. He will be a star when he has some friends in the forward line and no im not talking about that loser Hughes i believe that man is Post.
Post has shown more in a few games than Hughes has done in his whole career
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Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Jack are kidding themself. He will be a star when he has some friends in the forward line and no im not talking about that loser Hughes i believe that man is Post.
Post has shown more in a few games than Hughes has done in his whole career
Idiot post.
Leave Post alone, none of this "Here comes the Postman" just yet. He's a young kid and lets keep expectations low.
Hughes bagged 6 goals in a half against Port in about his 10th game. The wraps on him were massive. Hughes is stil young and you never know, I still think he's shaky since Polaks accident and is probably very home sick. I can see Cleve going to Port Adelaide an be tainted as the next Tredrea.
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Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.
100% spot on. We should try and do a player for player trade to get this type of player.
You could Barry Hall for nothing
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You could Barry Hall for nothing
No thanks
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You could Barry Hall for nothing
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Except a shitload of trouble
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YOUR TEAM'S X-FACTOR
Richmond:
Jack Riewoldt — If he can get his kicking right, he has all the tools required to be a dominant forward. Richo is irreplaceable, but Jack has real presence.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/the-main-game-20100314-q5pu.html
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YOUR TEAM'S X-FACTOR
Richmond:
Jack Riewoldt — If he can get his kicking right, he has all the tools required to be a dominant forward. Richo is irreplaceable, but Jack has real presence.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/the-main-game-20100314-q5pu.html
jack atm is all talk and shows no presence
its time he lifted or off to the gold coast he goes for a draft pick
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he is actually is abit of an X factor ,problem is this.
he needs everything going all his way.
Cant have bad delivery( is what we usually dish up)
And cant have teamates bringing opposition into the direct contest.'
Is good one on one, but we have dumb players in our team.
If I was the coach, would only play him and a team mate inside F 50, everyone else up high .
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Jack is going fine. Carrying a ridiculous load and needs help from the likes of Astbury & Griffiths(if they're any good) fast..
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Jack is going fine. Carrying a ridiculous load and needs help from the likes of Astbury & Griffiths(if they're any good) fast..
spot on mm , shame we havent been able to get some games into those two...not far away though and JR needs a real chop out...that will be Pollys job until; a couple of these kids are ready to roll
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Forget about Polly, he cant get his hands on it, thus he didnt play yesterday
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Forget about Polly, he cant get his hands on it, thus he didnt play yesterday
Is he REALLY a lay down misere to be promoted?
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Forget about Polly, he cant get his hands on it, thus he didnt play yesterday
Is he REALLY a lay down misere to be promoted?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...well depends just how good the wraps are on Goo and where they intend to use him and whether RR is ready to play senior footy
I really don't see Polly as much more than a stop gap and in his absence there is no big body to aid the front half set up of JR and MM...I tip that Polly will get the nod on account of that for the development of our other forwards
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I really don't see Polly as much more than a stop gap and in his absence there is no big body to aid the front half set up of JR and MM...I tip that Polly will get the nod on account of that for the development of our other forwards
I see that as a waste of time personally but our cupboard is bare re KPFs.
I think in no way is he up to it, so if Polly's to be promoted it means that we have no one anywhere near as capable of playing that role.
I find that hard to believe personally.
Whatever Richo's retirement being felt hugely right now.
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Forget about Polly, he cant get his hands on it, thus he didnt play yesterday
Is he REALLY a lay down misere to be promoted?
Wouldnt think so, was absolutely terrible against the Pies, and didnt play yesterday
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I really don't see Polly as much more than a stop gap and in his absence there is no big body to aid the front half set up of JR and MM...I tip that Polly will get the nod on account of that for the development of our other forwards
I see that as a waste of time personally but our cupboard is bare re KPFs.
I think in no way is he up to it, so if Polly's to be promoted it means that we have no one anywhere near as capable of playing that role.
I find that hard to believe personally.
Whatever Richo's retirement being felt hugely right now.
not sure where the B plan is then, if Griff, astbury had games under their belt and looked even a bit likely, id be right behind you, facts are they are not ready...If Posty spent even a poofteenth of his time forard I might agree, he spends zilch there...for the good of JR and MM they need some help...Id prob ignore the Pies game with the players up the ground we had, Barry Hall would have struggled
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There were plenty of opportunities in the pies game, the ball just came back as quick as it went it, there lies the problem
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Can he play in defence?
Does some good things, but his kicking for goal for two years has let him and the team down
To give him confidence, play him down back?
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Good move :thumbsup
Although the coach doesnt make any changes during the game it seems
:banghead
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I honestly think he's playing scared down there and become a real head case when he has a shot on goal.
Take him totally away from it and give him some space
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he is a fwd, his kicking for goal last week was good, had an off nite tonite so what
he isnt the problem
nor is edwards, he was good tonite, and he was brave
ok here we go
jackson, is pathetic, sure a workhorse but cant kick should not play again
nahas, no good, goodbye
hislop, yes his tough but see jackosn
mitch farmer the past 2 weeks has shown he is just a good praccy match player not up to it
simmonds stuff off
ok we had many positives, dont look at he score board
thursty owned hall tonite
mguane was great
so was edwards
tambling is getting there was great in the congestion and packs
cotch martin nason will be guns for us and played well tonite
deledio has slipped but will be ok
our biggest worry and has been 4 yrs, we have no real system on kickouts and cant get out of defence with ease
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Tambling was terrible X, he had 6 kicks
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he was bashed from pillar to post in close, but he kept at it
he had a slow start last yr, im not worried about him or deledio, deledio had many touches but wasnht as good as hardwick says, cotchin and martin were our best mids and edwards was pretty damn good today i reckon
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I would like to know Riewoldt's career conversion rate.
I would like to know the numbers of his conversion for 2007-08 combined against his 2009 to present. I am of the belief his conversion was better in his first two years of his career.
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Tambling was terrible X, he had 6 kicks
Agree, he's going backwards again
Because of the salary cap and having to pay 95% of it, I'd hate to think what Tambo, as one of our experienced??? players, is on :help
Whatever it is, he's not earning it :banghead
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I thought Tambling was good in the 1st and for parts in the 4th. Didn't even see him otherwise.
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Spot on X.
Really well said
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Spot on X.
Really well said
cheers
some ppl just watch him play with biased eyes with preconceived judgement
he was not that bad tonite. least he puts his body in
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Thought we all had a crack, even the guys that weren't up to it. Harsh reality that some have an enormous way to go but you can't ask much more from the lads they had a dip. You can only ask them to have a crack and run hard and don't back away, as bad as some of the skill errors were it's ability and polish that was the issue today not effort.
They'll improve in time just a way off it.
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Jack has been developing Ok in the last few years. Needs one big key forward to take the heat off him thats all.
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nothing wrong with Jack imo, get the poor bugger some help and structure up there
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nothing wrong with Jack imo, get the poor bugger some help and structure up there
Yep, he would have gone home last night with a total understanding of what Richo went through all his career.
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Tambling was good tonight despite you knockers, he was very clean in the congestion and was clean where a lot of others would muff it, watch the replay...
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The idea of playing Jack down back for a while has merit. He wouldn't be the first young forward sent down back to learn first hand how the the top forwards go about it. The only problem is who, right now at this point in time, do you replace him with in the forward line? With Mortin playing as a go to in the forward line we are currently short on cattle up front.
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Tambling was good tonight despite you knockers, he was very clean in the congestion and was clean where a lot of others would muff it, watch the replay...
we saw the same game, i just dont understand why evryone knocks him down just cos he isnt a 30 plus possession game player
his game will get praise from dimma, in congestion he was our best, and nimble and never flinched after each hit
ppl just love to bag him for no reason at all.
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Agree guys thought he was ok. 3 times I remember him going in head first to the footy and was reqrded with a free kick. Sorry 2 was rewarded and was was awarded to Cooney as they clashed heads.. head high contact.. :banghead
Tambling was ok he's a Varcoe, Yarran type player. Why does everyone think a midfielder in the top 10 should be a Chris Judd.
Hes servicable in a bad side. He'll be better when we improve. We have to much cream and no crop.
We should have drafted talls first let them develop and then draft smalls whoa re ready made. We've done it backwards with classy mids first and then talls now. Saints drafted Kossie and Riewoldt first and Hawks drafted Buddy and Roughead first.
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Jack plays his 50th on Sunday.
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Cant believe the knocks on young jack with only 50 games playing the role of No 1 KPF when he should be the No 2 or 3 hit up forward.
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Bump
Wonder where his detractors have been hiding the last few weeks.
Apart from that one bad game young Jack is deadset carrying our goal scoring on his own 21 year old back.
What about that mark in the last qtr beating three dawks.
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Bump
Wonder where his detractors have been hiding the last few weeks.
Apart from that one bad game young Jack is deadset carrying our goal scoring on his own 21 year old back.
What about that mark in the last qtr beating three dawks.
exactly.
Jack R will be a gun.
The only thing i dont like is that constant jumping up for the speccy. e.g Schulz. Cut it out Jack.
Aside from that the perfect game and once we find a key forward or 2 he will be a gem
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On track for a 50+ goal season (currently 2.4 goals per game)
If he manages to reach that then his career annual tally will be 7, 18, 35 & 50ish goals, so showing constant improvement which is great
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where are the snipers at? no trade calls this week?
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
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jack arrived today
tremendous game
will make it
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On track for a 50+ goal season (currently 2.4 goals per game)
If he manages to reach that then his career annual tally will be 7, 18, 35 & 50ish goals, so showing constant improvement which is great
Kicked straight this week 4.1. Made a world of difference to his game and to the team.
Yep as the number one fwd at the club that's great by him. Shame Morton is currently struggling. Would have made a world of difference to the side which is why Griffiths and one of Vickery or Post need to have their development fast tracked to help out to ease the burden and create a fwd line with more options and thus more unpredictable.
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
Sorry CR but i'll have to disagree! You miss his smother? I think he chased a guy down in the last too but was not rewarded?! (Forward flank, great southern stand side). Jacks second efforts were a lot better today!
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Sorry CR but i'll have to disagree! You miss his smother? I think he chased a guy down in the last too but was not rewarded?! (Forward flank, great southern stand side). Jacks second efforts were a lot better today!
Argh yes another example of the "Death of the Perfect Tackle" - cowardly umpiring by one Scott McLaren
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re. Post, he was bloody awful at coburg yesterday. Hard to see him making it.
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
With 5 tackles and a great smother? Has the most tackles of the top 10 goal kickers in the league by miles
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
With 5 tackles and a great smother? Has the most tackles of the top 10 goal kickers in the league by miles
He is lazy.
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
Have to disagree today CR. I made a point of watching for it after some of the debate on here and he worked his butt off, offensively and defensively. Showed further improvement and maturity today - he is only going to get better with age.
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
Have to disagree today CR. I made a point of watching for it after some of the debate on here and he worked his butt off, offensively and defensively. Showed further improvement and maturity today - he is only going to get better with age.
look dont get me wrong. He played really well today and his marking and kicking were a delight. however I also watched him closely and he has a tendency to not chase and be a spectator too often. I hope he gets better, we bloody need him.
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He was good today but his second efforts are crap. Slow as a wet week. took some nice grabs and kicked some goals so that is ok, but he is still a lazy plodder.
With 5 tackles and a great smother? Has the most tackles of the top 10 goal kickers in the league by miles
He is lazy.
Your expectations are ridiculous
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Oh, you can read my mind can you?
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he's as lazy as stuff!
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Jack gets a decent Whack by some on OER.
Jack is 21 years old.
He is currently 10th in the Colemen medal.
He has had the 7th most scoring shots in the league (35)
He is shooting at 54% at the moment -that will get better.
I thought he was terrific today....Dwayne Russell said something really funny today when he described Jack as the "Dani Minogue" of the Riewoldt family. :lol
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Star in the making.
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Posty needs time too, just like Jack. And Astbury for that matter. I reckon we got some good kids in the stable there. Jack is just coming into his own now, and he really looks the goods doesn't he? He seems to grow in confidence each week and having another good big target just helped him shine.
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That contested mark in the last quarter was something special....out numbered 3 to 1.
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Make sure u suss the photos out on the AFL site, two great shots of Jacks marks, Jack at the top of the pack pyramid, Lids looks like he is smiling in awe up at him lol, and one of Jack using some poor dumb bastard Hawks dude as a step ladder with his great clod hopper firmly planted on his left shoulder as he is just pushing upwards. Man he gets some upward momentum going lol.
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Make sure u suss the photos out on the AFL site, two great shots of Jacks marks, Jack at the top of the pack pyramid, Lids looks like he is smiling in awe up at him lol, and one of Jack using some poor dumb bastard Hawks dude as a step ladder with his great clod hopper firmly planted on his left shoulder as he is just pushing upwards. Man he gets some upward momentum going lol.
link?
:thumbsup
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he's as lazy as eff!
ironic really.
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Jack gets a decent Whack by some on OER.
Jack is 21 years old.
He is currently 10th in the Colemen medal.
He has had the 7th most scoring shots in the league (35)
He is shooting at 54% at the moment -that will get better.
I thought he was terrific today....Dwayne Russell said something really funny today when he described Jack as the "Dani Minogue" of the Riewoldt family. :lol
good perspective mat, not bad for a key forward in a bottom sode that rarely kicks more than 10g a week, no doubt room for improvement but good material to work with :clapping
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a hand full of average games dont make a champion.
Until he is consistant every week l wont change my opinion of him as a player
He has lots of work to do
In saying that his game was fairly good, but he still done too much watching & walking
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a hand full of average games dont make a champion.
Until he is consistant every week l wont change my opinion of him as a player
He has lots of work to do
In saying that his game was fairly good, but he still done too much watching & walking
You sour old puss. Glass if always half empty with you. Go and buy yourself a nice floral dress and go out on the town and meet someone nice.
Cheer up.
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You sour old puss. Glass if always half empty with you. Go and buy yourself a nice floral dress and go out on the town and meet someone nice.
Cheer up.
Stupid boy ;D his been there long enough to be more consistant, How bloody hard is it to be a fed forward for crying out loud.
A bloke his age should be doing alot more than he does. Dont know if the replay will show it but many times he was caught walking
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
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well Claw sorry to say but he is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
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well Claw sorry to say but he is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
How can someone so lazy have as many tackles as he has?
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well Claw sorry to say but he is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
How can someone so lazy have as many tackles as he has?
They were running past as Jack was just standing still. He stretched out his arm and there you go. :ROTFL
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
you are spot on about young jack claw
Will make it with bells on
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
More good posting.
We're bloody lucky to have him.
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
What exactly has he done?
He shows promise, but that's all
It's just wishful thinking on your part methinks.
I get the same high hopes but get disappointed most weeks
He's lazy, petulant like Richo, but Richo did triple what he's done
From what I suspect he's getting paid, more return is needed and more consistently, IMO.
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
More good posting.
We're bloody lucky to have him.
LUCKY?????
LMAO
:rollin
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You cannot justify that he is petulant and lazy at all Froars. He worked like a effing dog on Sunday. He was busting packs, chasing people down half the length of the field, I mean what else do you want him to do? When was he effing petulant ? He nearly had his arm popped out, but played on. Later on he was limping but pushed on. Should he do it with one hand dynabolted to the back of his head to prove he is not petulant or lazy?
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You cannot justify that he is petulant and lazy at all Froars. He worked like a effing dog on Sunday. He was busting packs, chasing people down half the length of the field, I mean what else do you want him to do? When was he effing petulant ?
A couple of weeks ago he was sulking and petulant. Even the media got on board and highlighted it.
They know, and I know, he can deliver more and more consistently.
Don't let him off the hook just because he's the great white hope
You treat him like a hero before he's actually done anything, you will get more of the same, which is one week good, three weeks bad
We need him to perform CONSISTENTLY.
You're in for a lot of disappointments if you accept mediocrity.
The trouble for him is I see him as a leader of this club, but he's still a kid
We desperately need leaders to put their hand up.
It's not his fault we're rudderless, but if he wants to put his moniker on this club and own it, he has to perform every week and lead the way.
Just calling it how I see it, mate.
I know he's talented but he's also lazy IMO
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I didn't buy into the media's interpretation of what Jack was doing or thinking, they are in no position to be psycho-analysing video bites. Other than that, on field he doesn't show petulance at all. He does a lot of chatting to his team mates which is good. He has steadily improved over the course of this year improving his performance, accuracy and score tally. The 'laziness' I think came from earlier games when he was blown and was not up to the pursuit. A lot of our players have suffered from a lack of endurance through the matches this year and it has steadily improved as they have run into fitness. A few teams have used this technique in the past to run teams into fitness. So I don't agree that he is a lazy or petulant player Froars, I agree he needs to be consistent but I think that now that fitness has improved across the team, he can push himself more comfortably for longer and will be able to deliver what you ask. :cheers
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You cannot justify that he is petulant and lazy at all Froars. He worked like a effing dog on Sunday. He was busting packs, chasing people down half the length of the field, I mean what else do you want him to do? When was he effing petulant ?
A couple of weeks ago he was sulking and petulant. Even the media got on board and highlighted it.
They know, and I know, he can deliver more and more consistently.
Don't let him off the hook just because he's the great white hope
You treat him like a hero before he's actually done anything, you will get more of the same, which is one week good, three weeks bad
We need him to perform CONSISTENTLY.
You're in for a lot of disappointments if you accept mediocrity.
The trouble for him is I see him as a leader of this club, but he's still a kid
We desperately need leaders to put their hand up.
It's not his fault we're rudderless, but if he wants to put his moniker on this club and own it, he has to perform every week and lead the way.
Just calling it how I see it, mate.
I know he's talented but he's also lazy IMO
That was one bloody game, give it a rest
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Hardwick talking about Jack in his latest EOTT report:
"The forward line remains our main area of concern at the moment. But, in saying that, we’re rapt with the form of Jack Riewoldt. It was a terrific sign for the future to see Jack, at age 21, take the game by the scruff of the neck, pull down some excellent contested marks, and finish with four goals. Not only is he having an impact on the scoreboard, he’s currently the competition’s leading tackler in the forward-50 area, which underlines his all-round value to the team."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/ARCHIVEPAGES/SecureSignonTest/GreenbergsGrabs/tabid/15918/Default.aspx
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I didn't buy into the media's interpretation of what Jack was doing or thinking, they are in no position to be psycho-analysing video bites. Other than that, on field he doesn't show petulance at all. He does a lot of chatting to his team mates which is good. He has steadily improved over the course of this year improving his performance, accuracy and score tally. The 'laziness' I think came from earlier games when he was blown and was not up to the pursuit. A lot of our players have suffered from a lack of endurance through the matches this year and it has steadily improved as they have run into fitness. A few teams have used this technique in the past to run teams into fitness. So I don't agree that he is a lazy or petulant player Froars, I agree he needs to be consistent but I think that now that fitness has improved across the team, he can push himself more comfortably for longer and will be able to deliver what you ask. :cheers
I'm fully with you on this Owl. I also, didn't buy into that half time vision analysis - could have been a thousand reasons why we saw the snippets we saw and unless the coach in question admitted that he wanted and didn't have Riewoldt's full attention at that moment then I remained very unconvinced that it warranted the witch-hunt that the commentators gave it. The club never came out and uttered one sentence in response - a sure indicator that there is nothing to see here, move on. And as far as lazy goes, I specifically watched for it on Sunday and I couldn't have been more impressed with his work rate as a forward, offensively and defensively. He is leading the league's forwards in tackles and 2nd overall in our team for tackles. That is not an indicator of a player even anywhere remotely near lazy. Yes, he has a lot to learn about the game (paying more apparent attention to a coach during a break might even be one of those things) and needs to build his motor to run out games faster and longer but he certainly doesn't deserve the criticism he gets from some in here. Might I suggest that those criticizing him loudest are those in fact wishing for him to be the Great White Hope and their impatience is frustrating them to blame.
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:clapping
Mind baffiling at suggestions JAck is lazy.
1st in AFL in tackles in D50. Enough said.
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Daly talking about Jack....
Despite criticism of the Tigers' lack of firepower in attack, Daly - the club's forwards coach - said fourth-year player Jack Riewoldt had been outstanding.
Riewoldt has kicked 19 goals this season, with Robin Nahas (seven) the side's next best contributor.
"I've spent a lot of time with Jack," Daly said. "When you come from another club you've got your own opinions on players and I had my own opinion, which I'll keep to myself.
"For a guy of only 21, he's doing an unbelievable job for us. He is No.1 in the AFL for tackles inside forward 50 and has something like 36 shots on goal which is up there with the top rank.
"If you look at him he is probably not a key forward. I can't question Jack's ability or what he does week in, week out.
"The challenge for him is to make sure he keeps that consistency and strives to be a better player."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94652/default.aspx
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Decided to do a little research...
After 54 games Jarred Roughead had kicked 50 goals.
After 54 games Johnathon Brown had kicked 53 goals
After 54 games Nick Riewoldt had kicked 53 goals
After 54 games Jack Riewoldt has kicked 76 goals
After 54 games Fev had kicked 99 goals
After 54 games Buddy Franklin had kicked 115 goals.
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Decided to do a little research...
After 54 games Jarred Roughead had kicked 50 goals.
After 54 games Johnathon Brown had kicked 53 goals
After 54 games Nick Riewoldt had kicked 53 goals
After 54 games Jack Riewoldt has kicked 76 goals
After 54 games Fev had kicked 99 goals
After 54 games Buddy Franklin had kicked 115 goals.
That is BS Mat, he is at RFC and should have kicked 176 goals.
No excuse none,zip,nein - Wallace the nuffer has killed this club by recruiting this dud
Signed The Guest
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Daly talking about Jack....
Despite criticism of the Tigers' lack of firepower in attack, Daly - the club's forwards coach - said fourth-year player Jack Riewoldt had been outstanding.
Riewoldt has kicked 19 goals this season, with Robin Nahas (seven) the side's next best contributor.
"I've spent a lot of time with Jack," Daly said. "When you come from another club you've got your own opinions on players and I had my own opinion, which I'll keep to myself.
"For a guy of only 21, he's doing an unbelievable job for us. He is No.1 in the AFL for tackles inside forward 50 and has something like 36 shots on goal which is up there with the top rank.
"If you look at him he is probably not a key forward. I can't question Jack's ability or what he does week in, week out.
"The challenge for him is to make sure he keeps that consistency and strives to be a better player."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94652/default.aspx
dear mr daly. if jack aint a kp can you please tell us exactly what he is then. he fits every kp category you could wish for. while hes no power forward atm hes one decent kpp. you lost me with that comment mr daly. the only real area hes lacking in is size but that is slowly coming. the other weakness is perhaps pace not quick of the mark so ff is out, but works damn hard is super smart great in the air and puts his body on the line.
i dunno perhaps we are talking about a different player.
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Doubt there'll be any 'trade Riewoldt' talk tonight. He's on track for a 60-goal season. As we know he needs help up there and others to kick goals. Why Dimma wants Griffiths in the seniors as soon as he's right.
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The fact any human being can look past our defiencies and pin point Riewoldt is problem is hilarious.
One of the funniest moments watching the football tonight during a lull in the last qtr and Jack snapped another goal. I turned to my mate and said "On this Richmond forum some people have talked all year that we should get rid of Riewoldt." He spat his coke all over the Essendon supporter in front :)
Absolute circus talk. Just slop on a plate.
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The fact any human being can look past our defiencies and pin point Riewoldt is problem is hilarious.
One of the funniest moments watching the football tonight during a lull in the last qtr and Jack snapped another goal. I turned to my mate and said "On this Richmond forum some people have talked all year that we should get rid of Riewoldt." He spat his coke all over the Essendon supporter in front :)
Absolute circus talk. Just slop on a plate.
Popelord you are one of the biggest poo on lips l come across
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Yes Rewoldt is lazy at times & likes to bark himself up
Very good game from Jack tonight & if he continues to be consistant every week then l will be happy to call him a good player.
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Yes Rewoldt is lazy at times & likes to bark himself up
Very good game from Jack tonight & if he continues to be consistant every week then l will be happy to call him a good player.
I am sure that will mean a lot to him
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Riewoldt on track to be a champ, says Hardwick
richmondfc.com.au
By Matt Burgan 12:08 AM Sun 23 May, 2010
JACK Riewoldt is playing as well as star Hawthorn duo Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead did at his age, says Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
Riewoldt equalled his career-best haul of six goals in Saturday night's 35-point loss to Essendon, and the ex-Hawk assistant was impressed with what he saw.
"He's going to be a good player, that kid," said Hardwick after the match. "He's 21 years of age and he's kicked a number of goals. The most important thing, though, is that he's leading the league in inside-50 tackles, which for us, is an outstanding achievement.
"I've been lucky enough to see a couple of young key forwards going around at Hawthorn and he's right up there at this stage.
"He competes really well and he uses his body probably as good as anyone I've seen for his age. The key with Jack is he's just got to develop that consistency going forward, because we're still waiting for another couple of the other key forwards to step up to help him out."
Hardwick said Riewoldt's form was also stacking up against some of the other elite forwards in the competition after nine rounds.
"Jack's only 21 years of age and he's had as many shots on goal as Brendan Fevola and Jonathan Brown," he said.
"So for a side that at the moment is down the wrong end of the ladder, he's competing really, really well - probably against the premier defenders as well.
"He's our number one forward."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94830/default.aspx
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Daly talking about Jack....
Despite criticism of the Tigers' lack of firepower in attack, Daly - the club's forwards coach - said fourth-year player Jack Riewoldt had been outstanding.
Riewoldt has kicked 19 goals this season, with Robin Nahas (seven) the side's next best contributor.
"I've spent a lot of time with Jack," Daly said. "When you come from another club you've got your own opinions on players and I had my own opinion, which I'll keep to myself.
"For a guy of only 21, he's doing an unbelievable job for us. He is No.1 in the AFL for tackles inside forward 50 and has something like 36 shots on goal which is up there with the top rank.
"If you look at him he is probably not a key forward. I can't question Jack's ability or what he does week in, week out.
"The challenge for him is to make sure he keeps that consistency and strives to be a better player."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94652/default.aspx
dear mr daly. if jack aint a kp can you please tell us exactly what he is then. he fits every kp category you could wish for. while hes no power forward atm hes one decent kpp. you lost me with that comment mr daly. the only real area hes lacking in is size but that is slowly coming. the other weakness is perhaps pace not quick of the mark so ff is out, but works damn hard is super smart great in the air and puts his body on the line.
i dunno perhaps we are talking about a different player.
I've wondered about this too. Hardwick has also said this a number of times, yet his height, weight and performance seems to measure up OK against some of the KPFs in the league at similar stages of their career.
Now I'm wondering if these statements are simply a tactic to challenge Jack to really stand up
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Great game from Jack, again, he is getting better every week and IMO with a key forward next to him he will be a star. I would love to have picked up Bradshaw for a couple of years to play along side him but anyway.
Jack lazy...pfft!!!
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Great game from Jack, again, he is getting better every week and IMO with a key forward next to him he will be a star. I would love to have picked up Bradshaw for a couple of years to play along side him but anyway.
Jack lazy...pfft!!!
He got injured again on the weekend
Will be lucky to be fit for 2 of his 3 year $600k per season deal
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Despite criticisms about Jack I still find him a breath of fresh air.
Two games in a row against the Bombers where he has kicked 6 and chasing and tackling and running up the ground all the stuff a modern forward is supposed to do.
As much as I loved Richo when he was playing I cannot remember him getting a holding the ball whereas Jack in that department has now added Dustin Fletcher to his scalp.
One criticism I will say is this if he is inside the 50 he MUST take the responsibility himself and take the shot rather than be unselfish and pass it off which more often than not comes undone. When he gave it off last night we were in the middle of a late first quarter comeback and another goal would have been very handy at that point considering we kicked the first two of the second and reduced the margin to 15/ A single digit margin after being 40 points down reads much better.
Could it be a coincidence also that Morton is at Coburg also?
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Jack is a very good player. He has been a bright light in a poor season. Look forward to the day when Griffiths and Astbury develop to help Jack
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Riewoldt unfazed by external jibes
richmondfc.com.au
By Matt Burgan
Sun 23 May, 2010
RICHMOND young gun Jack Riewoldt says the only criticism that matters to him comes from the Tigers' inner sanctum, following his six-goal haul against Essendon on Saturday night.
Riewoldt, who equalled his career-best effort against Essendon at the MCG, has now kicked 25 goals for the season, including 10.2 in the past fortnight.
However, his errant kicking for goal earlier in the season attracted some external criticism as the Tigers struggled to put a score on the board.
But Riewoldt's work-rate, with limited tall support in Richmond's attack, has been a highlight of the 21-year-old's performances in 2010.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick likened him to Hawthorn duo Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead at the same age after the Dreamtime at the 'G clash and he was among the Tigers' best in their 35-point loss.
"The only people I'm really fussed about their opinion is the coaching staff and my teammates and outside criticism is not going to fuss me too much," he told richmondfc.com.au post-match.
"We've got a couple of young guys who are going to be good key forwards for us - Ben Griffiths, when he starts playing and Dave Astbury, who played tonight."
While his display in attack was a genuine highlight on Saturday night, Riewoldt played down his effort and said it mattered little when his side was not winning.
"I'm just trying to step up and play my role for the team every week and at the moment we haven't got enough players that are playing to the standard of their own roles," he said.
"It's going to come with a lot of young guys still playing and they're going to develop and along with that, we're going to develop as a side and develop our game-plan as well.
"We've just got to stick tight and fans have got to stick tight, because we know where we're going and we've got a goal and it's going to happen."
Still, Riewoldt said he was now starting to feel as though he belonged at the top level.
"Yeah, I'm feeling better and more adapt to the game and enjoying it," he said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94849/default.aspx
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jack is progressing ahead of schedule to his destiny
being a genuine A grade KP forward
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Some on here are very quiet this week.
Has kicked 10.2 in the last 2 weeks.
Wait for some form drop and the vampire bats will be back.
Thanks for shutting the muppets up for a few days Jack. Super game.
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Some on here are very quiet this week.
Has kicked 10.2 in the last 2 weeks.
Wait for some form drop and the vampire bats will be back.
Thanks for shutting the muppets up for a few days Jack. Super game.
I admit i though Jack wasent that crash hot but i have been gladly proven wrong :thumbsup
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Some on here are very quiet this week.
Has kicked 10.2 in the last 2 weeks.
Wait for some form drop and the vampire bats will be back.
Thanks for shutting the muppets up for a few days Jack. Super game.
:clapping
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Make that 14 goals in the past three games and Jack is now sitting 5th in the Coleman on a total of 29 goals just five goals behind Fev. A fair effort in a side that's 1-9. I'm not saying Jack can win the Coleman but it just shows how much Jack has come on in his 4th year in the AFL. On target for a 60 goal season if he can keep this form up.
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peaky just said on gladiators of sport n sen, that jack is in AA form as a key fwd, and he could also be AA as a small fws also
i agree :clapping :clapping
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Breakout year for him thus far. If he can maintain his consistency and kick 60 goals in a lowly side that will be an outstanding achievement.
Integral part of our side now and will be even more important once Astbury and Griffiths find consistency and cement their spots.
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Emerging Superstar....3 great games in a row.
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Just gotta luv a 21 yo forward making his way despite all the chicken littles
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Make that 14 goals in the past three games and Jack is now sitting 5th in the Coleman on a total of 29 goals just five goals behind Fev. A fair effort in a side that's 1-9. I'm not saying Jack can win the Coleman but it just shows how much Jack has come on in his 4th year in the AFL. On target for a 60 goal season if he can keep this form up.
If he kicks 50 goals + and continues to contribute defensively he will have made a huge step forward. We really need McGuane & Thursty to step up as key backs to provide 3 key position players who can lead our talks at both ends.
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Was watching the game with a mate who is a non richmond supporter and our discussion turned to Jack. I asked him if he thought Jack could be as good as his cousin and he said he wasnt sure, but he has more heart - a lot more heart.
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He's shouldering an enormous weight of responsibility right now. His marking in contest is just so composed. For his age, it is Carey-like in fact. Plus he's one of the more passionate and committed blokes out there. If he keeps it up I'd like to see him added to the leadership group next season given a tall (Simmo) just left.
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To kick 4 goals in very crap conditions is a brilliant effort
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gun.
makes Weavers comments on big footy, pre and post 2006 draft quite funny in hindsite
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14 goals in 3 weeks,
Lets trade him I've heard its a great idea.
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14 goals in 3 weeks,
Lets trade him I've heard its a great idea.
this is almost as annoying as those who post about trading them. No need to rub their noses in it.
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Jack jumps into select group
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 02 June, 2010
Jack Riewoldt joined an elite bracket of Richmond players with his impressive four-goal performance against Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium last Saturday.
The talented young key forward scored more goals on the day than the Port team combined, which was restricted to just three in the atrocious conditions, as the Tigers powered their way to a convincing 47-point win - their first success of the 2010 season.
Riewoldt, who has kicked 29 goals for the season, is now in the company of such illustrious Tiger goalkickers as Doug Strang, Jack Titus, Michael Roach, Jeff Hogg and Matthew Richardson, who all managed to outscore the entire opposition in a match.
The list of Richmond players who beat the opposition off their own boots is:
Round 2, 1910 at Punt Road: Tom Heaney, 6 goals in Richmond’s 16.18 (114) win v Melbourne 5.7 (37).
Round 15, 1910 at Punt Road: Mick Maguire, 3 goals and Billy Schmidt, 2 goals in Richmond’s 8.6 (54) win v St Kilda 1.10 (16).
Round 6, 1914 at the MCG: Percy Maybury, 6 goals in Richmond’s 16.14 (110) win v University 5.6 (36).
Round 14, 1920 at Punt Road: George Bayliss, 7 goals in Richmond’s 16.16 (112) win v Geelong 5.14 (44).
Round 1, 1928 at Punt Road: Jack McCormack, 4 goals in Richmond’s 14.15 (99) win v North Melbourne 2.9 (21).
Round 9, 1928 at Punt Road: Jack Baggott, 12 goals in Richmond’s 21.16 (142) win v South Melbourne 9.12 (66).
Round 2, 1931 at Punt Road: Doug Strang, 14 goals (Club record) in Richmond’s 30.19 (199) win v North Melbourne 4.7 (31).
Round 12, 1935 at Punt Road: Percy Bentley, 4 goals and Dick Harris, 4 goals in Richmond’s 16.10 (106) win v Footscray 3.11 (29).
Round 6, 1941 at Punt Road: Jack Titus, 10 goals in Richmond’s 17.15 (117) win v Hawthorn 8.14 (62).
Round 3, 1942 at Punt Road: Jack Titus, 10 goals in Richmond’s 25.25 (175) win v Collingwood 5.7 (37).
Round 2, 1951 at Lake Oval: Jack O’Rourke, 6 goals in Richmond’s 14.13 (97) win v South Melbourne 5.7 (37).
Round 15, 1954 at Punt Road: Ray Poulter, 7 goals in Richmond’s 12.15 (87) win v South Melbourne 6.16 (52).
Round 11, 1955 at Punt Road: Ray Poulter, 8 goals in Richmond’s 14.12 (96) win v Carlton 7.7 (49).
Round 5, 1967 at the MCG: Kevin Bartlett, 6 goals in Richmond’s 16.22 (118) win v Hawthorn 5.13 (43).
Round 13, 1956 at Glenferrie Oval: Ray Poulter, 4 goals in Richmond’s 8.6 (54) win v Hawthorn 3.13 (31).
Round 6, 1968 at the MCG: Rex Hunt, 5 goals in Richmond’s 14.17 (101) win v North Melbourne 4.7 (31).
Round 4, 1971 at the Lake Oval: Malcolm Greenslade, 6 goals in Richmond’s 20.13 (133) win v South Melbourne 5.9 (39).
Round 11, 1972 at the MCG: Roger Dean, 3 goals in Richmond’s 14.11 (95) win v South Melbourne 2.19 (31).
Round 14, 1976 at the MCG: Robert Lamb, 8 goals in Richmond’s 23.13 (151) win v Collingwood 7.14 (56).
Round 7, 1980 at the Western Oval: Michael Roach, 11 goals in Richmond’s 27.18 (180) win v Footscray 10.10 (70).
Round 18, 1980 at Waverley Park: Michael Roach, 10 goals in Richmond’s 23.18 (156) win v Footscray 6.5 (41).
Round 17, 1984 at the MCG: Michael Roach, 4 goals in Richmond’s 12.9 (91) win v Sydney 3.10 (28).
Round 22, 1988 at the MCG: Jeff Hogg, 9 goals in Richmond’s 23.19 (157) win v Fitzroy 7.12 (54).
Round 21, 1996 at the MCG: Matthew Richardson, 7 goals and Brendon Gale, 6 goals in Richmond’s 28.19 (187) win v Fitzroy 5.6 (36).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/95563/default.aspx
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Jack keeps this up he is a shoe in for AA.
AA forward line now id have
Pods, PAV, Fev
Chapman, Brown, Jack R
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Jack keeps this up he is a shoe in for AA.
AA forward line now id have
Pods, PAV, Fev
Chapman, Brown, Jack R
Hardly, too many talls, it would never look like that
You need to have two pretty good seasons in a row too, so I can't see JR getting a spot
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JR8 for the coleman 8)
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Just digging his new found confidence, he his like a kid with a new pair of runners. The great thing is he is a pretty rounded package now, he is taking excellent contested marks (good coaching imo), his set shot kicking has improved out of sight (again I would say good coaching), athleticism, strength and tenacity and he looks like a cheeky freckle faced bastard which will help opposition supporters hate him. What more could we want? :thumbsup Tigers really got it right with Jack. I hope he is a dedicated Tiger man now they got him firing.
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Jack is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
Monk seeing Jack over the last few weeks, just wondering what your own words taste like?
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Jack keeps this up he is a shoe in for AA.
AA forward line now id have
Pods, PAV, Fev
Chapman, Brown, Jack R
Hardly, too many talls, it would never look like that
You need to have two pretty good seasons in a row too, so I can't see JR getting a spot
What makes you sure of that. AA selection is AA selection for that year not 2 years in a row.
Dont worry about Jack R mate if he keeps this up for the rest of the year he is an absolute shoe in for AA. Pods too
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Jack Riewoldt back in the box
* Mark Stevens
* From: Herald Sun
* June 04, 2010
JACK Riewoldt barely sees big cousin Nick through the season and saves footy chat until over Christmas pudding.
But every now and then, text messages are exchanged during the season.
"Nick texted me the other night to say I was going well and he was pretty proud of me," Riewoldt said this week.
And if ever there was some time for some SMS family love, this is it.
Riewoldt has kicked 29 goals in the worst team in the competition, surging into Coleman Medal contention with 14 goals in the past three weeks.
He has more goals to his name than both Jonathan Brown and Brendan Fevola at the same age.
At 21 years and seven months, Riewoldt has already racked up 86. Fevola had 66 at the same age and Brown just 47.
The freakish Lance Franklin had a whopping 223 by the same time, but Riewoldt's coach Damien Hardwick was brave enough after his charge's six-goal Round 9 haul against Essendon to compare him to "Buddy".
It has made Riewoldt hot property, but despite the perception he likes being centre stage, the emerging Richmond superstar is not comfortable with the media focus.
The Herald Sun first requested an interview with Riewoldt three weeks ago and was politely told: "He wants to get a couple more good games under his belt."
Two great games later, Riewoldt relented - but passed on the offer of posing for a portrait photo.
Riewoldt has heard the talk that he is cocky and brash, and starts the interview by saying he is intent on keeping the lid on to help change the public's perception.
"We're not travelling that well," Riewoldt said.
"We've got a lot of young guys who are just trying to keep a low profile and get the job done every week.
"I'm far from happy with what I've achieved and Richmond is far from happy with what we've achieved this year, as well. That's got a lot to do with why I don't do a lot of media."
Riewoldt is also quick to play down his goalkicking feats, pointing to the extra opportunities coming his way.
"It would be silly to suggest I haven't had the ball kicked to me more this year,' Riewoldt said.
"Losing a guy like Matthew Richardson, and with Mitch Morton struggling a bit, even though he had good form on the weekend, I've had it kicked to me a lot.
"The more opportunities I'm getting are hopefully helping me out on the scoreboard and helping the team out as well."
But once the straight-bat team talk is out of the way, Riewoldt is a candid interview subject.
Riewoldt is embarrassed by some of his goal celebrations in past years and, with the strong encouragement of Hardwick, has decided to pull his head in and start sharing the love more with others.
"Damien coming along has probably stamped a little bit more authority on what I do with the goal celebrations and stuff like that," Riewoldt said.
"The big thing is, I've just had a focus this year on wanting to improve myself as a leader.
"That was one way I thought I could improve, by having more output towards the other guys when I kick a goal.
"Realistically, I'm the one finishing off the actions from what the guys are doing up the field.
"I'm still a bubbly character and still a very out-there guy on the training track, but I think I've matured as a person on game day and being able to help and involve others ... so it makes others feel good about what they're doing."
Riewoldt has been working on maintaining his positive body language as well after TV cameras caught him being less than attentive in the rooms at Subiaco Oval in Round 5 as assistant coach Danny Daly drilled the forwards.
"Inside the club, it was dealt with quickly," he said. "Damien and Danny both said they were not happy with it, but they said they were happy with where I was in the forward line and where my attitude is to all of our staff.
"I need to have a bit of responsibility for what that was, but I felt a little hard done by.
"That just comes back to that perception thing. You can take any bit of footage out of an AFL change room and blow it up into anything you want.
"Someone had something to say about it and it blew up into something a bit bigger than what I thought it should have been. I've got the utmost respect for Danny Daly as a coach, him as a football brain and him as a person."
Riewoldt is not in the official leadership group at Punt Rd, but is unofficial leader of the forward line.
Hardwick has given him license to help instruct the inexperienced players surrounding him, suggesting tuning out during Daly's forward addresses was not a regular occurrence.
Riewoldt has also worked closely with another assistant coach, Justin Leppitsch, who spent hours over summer working on his contested marking.
"At under-18 level I was a pretty good contested mark," Riewoldt said.
"With Dimma's (Hardwick's) new game plan and what he wants to do, contested marking is something I need to work on.
"It's something that probably dropped off when I got to AFL level.
"I needed to do a fair bit of work. Justin Leppitsch probably helped me out the most over the pre-season with body positioning and stuff like that," Riewoldt said.
"If I don't mark it, I can create spillage for smaller guys like Robin Nahas and Ben Nason."
Extra time in the gym over summer with new weights coach Adam Douglas, recruited from under-18 club Northern Knights, has also been a factor in Riewoldt blossoming into one of the best exponents of the contested mark.
"We were lucky enough to get a new weights specialist coach ... he's gone out of his way to really help us key position players," Riewoldt said.
"I've become a stronger body type. I'm probably not lifting more weights, it's just I've developed a bit more than what I have in previous years.
"I've just noticed core-wise and through the legs (some) extra stability, which helps me match it with bigger-bodied defenders."
Riewoldt also puts his improvement down to natural progression and the predictability of Hardwick's game plan.
"In the past, I spent a lot of time at centre half-forward and in that area, playing to different sorts of leading patterns," Riewoldt said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-back-in-the-box/story-e6frf9jf-1225875216597
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Jack keeps this up he is a shoe in for AA.
AA forward line now id have
Pods, PAV, Fev
Chapman, Brown, Jack R
Hardly, too many talls, it would never look like that
You need to have two pretty good seasons in a row too, so I can't see JR getting a spot
What makes you sure of that. AA selection is AA selection for that year not 2 years in a row.
Dont worry about Jack R mate if he keeps this up for the rest of the year he is an absolute shoe in for AA. Pods too
That's just the way the AA selection panel work, pay a bit of attention and you'll see this is the case. There may be the odd exception, but they don't just cram the top 6 goal kickers for the year into the AA side.
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Pull your head in, Nick Riewoldt: Ben Cousins
A BLUNT warning from Ben Cousins rings loud for Richmond's Jack Riewoldt as he sets about smashing the perception he is too cocky to be a team leader.
Riewoldt has revealed an over-the-top goal celebration in a practice match at Yea in February sparked strong words from the veteran.
" 'Cuzzy' said to me that day 'going forward, that's not what we're all about'," Riewoldt said. "That is something that's really stuck in my mind."
The Tigers' great forward hope was also dragged by coach Damien Hardwick in a clear message to tone it down against an undermanned Geelong team.
Riewoldt said that moment in the country was the "turning point" in the way he portrays himself on the ground.
The Tigers' Coleman Medal hope said talk he is over-confident for a fourth-year player in the bottom team is totally out of line.
"I'm confident. I've got no doubt I'm a confident person and I'm an 'out there' character, but I'm far from happy with myself and what I've achieved in the game so far," Riewoldt said.
"That's a misconception a lot of people have got about me."
Riewoldt sensed he was in trouble the moment he let his emotions spill out in Yea.
"As soon as I kicked it, I thought, 'I'm in a bit of strife here'. The runner came out and Dimma (Hardwick) brought me straight off."
"I've done stuff on the field, I've regretted.
"I take full responsibility for what I've done. It's something I'm wary of."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/pull-your-head-in-nick-riewoldt-ben-cousins/story-e6frf9jf-1225875242888
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Riewoldt emerges from the shadows
MARTIN BLAKE
June 4, 2010
JACK Riewoldt's improvement is measurable, demonstrable, palpable.
He has kicked 29 goals in 10 games for Richmond this season, almost as many as the 32 he slotted for the whole of last season, and enough to put him in the top five in the Coleman Medal race. And that in a team with a lone victory to its name, and at just 21 years of age.
He has taken more contested marks (22) than any of the top 10 players on the goalkicking list. Not content with one-way traffic, he is No. 1 in the AFL for tackles inside the forward 50-metre zone, a number that grows in relevance every year.
Not for the first time a St Kilda-Richmond game at the Docklands tonight will be about the Riewoldt Factor. The difference this time is that it is Richmond's Jack who is in the spotlight as his more famous cousin, St Kilda's Nick, recovers from surgery. Back in Tasmania as a boy, the younger Jack converted from soccer to Australian football as he aped the deeds of his burgeoning cousin, already his role model. What a story it is that that he is catching him centimetre by centimetre.
Jack Riewoldt might well be the most improved player in the competition. He kicked four goals in the soup at AAMI Stadium in Richmond's first win last weekend. The week before, he terrorised Tayte Pears in kicking six against Essendon, ripping down pack marks in that old-fashioned, 1970s kind of way. No longer can he be tagged The Other Riewoldt.
The numbers tell only part of the story. Riewoldt has had to work on deficiencies to round off his game in his fourth season and, fortunately for Richmond, he has proved a willing learner.
First and foremost is his conversion. Riewoldt has kicked 29.19 this season, converting at 60 per cent against a poorly 54 per cent last year. The improvement did not happen by chance.
He had the yips and knew that he needed to fix it. Richmond's forward coach Danny Daly says Riewoldt has 100 to 150 set shots at Punt Road every week, mainly on Thursdays, often with an iPod blasting away in his ears.
That is not mere chance, either. ''He's got music and crowd noise and all sorts of things going on in his ears when he's kicking for goal,'' said Daly, who extracted the idea from the American NFL, whose punters deliberately reproduce game-day sounds. ''That's helped him.''
Richmond knew it was an issue for Riewoldt and had assistant coach Brendon Lade, himself a brilliantly straight kick for goal through a 12-year career with Port Adelaide, get involved. The club psychologist, Kim Stephens, also was asked to help.
They came up with a formula that was about simplicity, for Riewoldt's kicking fundamentals are sound. Like so many players, his poor conversion had got into his head. ''We've been working on his thought process, not so much his action,'' said Daly. ''He was thinking too much: 'How many steps have I got to take, how do I drop the ball, how have I got to do this?' Rather than 'all that will take care of itself, keep in mind what the result's going to be, and focus on one thing, relax a bit'.''
Riewoldt had shown good signs as a key forward in his first three seasons, but the knock was on his defensive game. His response is instructive. He has doubled his tackle rate to 4.4 a game this season. ''It's an area he needed to improve in,'' said Daly. ''We spoke to him about that. The reality for forwards is if they get their defensive acts up, they get rewarded the other way, because you force the turnover and the ball comes back inside 50 and you get an opportunity to score.''
He has also grown from the 85-kilogram stripling who crossed Bass Strait as a No. 13 draft pick in 2007. At 195 centimetres he is two centimetres taller than he arrived (and fractionally ahead of his cousin) and the spindly boy is now a 93-kilogram man.
Moreover when Matthew Richardson and Nathan Brown retired at the end of last season, there was a changing of the guard. It was Riewoldt who has stepped forward into the breach, both symbolically and in a realistic sense. ''It's not something we spoke to him about,'' said Daly. ''We didn't put the responsibility on him. He took it on himself. He's a natural-born leader, I think. It's helped his footy.''
Daly came from North Melbourne, his football home of the previous six years, with a perception that Riewoldt was selfish. He has found the opposite to be true. At Punt Road, they love his instinctive ways, evident when he soccered a goal around the corner last weekend, somehow looping the ball over an opponent.
Richmond acknowledges that Riewoldt is carrying a huge weight as the main key forward in a 16th-placed team and with such tender years. ''To be honest, when we got [David] Astbury and [Ben] Griffiths through the draft, we were probably thinking those two would take the two key positions and Jack would be the really good third tall for us,'' said Daly. ''But the way we've seen Jack evolve, and for me coming to know him a bit better, it's probably going to be him and Benny Griffiths there and we've been able to slot Dave Astbury back, which is a bonus for us.''
Talk about changing perceptions.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-emerges-from-the-shadows-20100603-x70a.html
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Interesting to see how Jack goes tonight with the media pumping up his tyres. Let's hope he remains focussed and sticks to what he has been working for him.
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Interesting to see how Jack goes tonight with the media pumping up his tyres. Let's hope he remains focussed and sticks to what he has been working for him.
Absolutly spot on MT.
Bit of a baptism of fire against the Saints after his "emergence" talk.
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jack thrives and loves the attention, he will thrive
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He has also grown from the 85-kilogram stripling who crossed Bass Strait as a No. 13 draft pick in 2007. At 195 centimetres he is two centimetres taller than he arrived (and fractionally ahead of his cousin) and the spindly boy is now a 93-kilogram man.
I gotta say I still struggle to believe this is the case no matter how many times I hear it. Maybe Nick is a bit broader, has longer reach or has a better vertical leap, but he seems to play taller than Jack still who takes a lot of marks simply by having superior timing.
If you had a bloke who was taller than Nick Riewoldt and a great contested mark it seems you would never ever contemplate him being a third tall like we were with Jack.
EDIT: Well there you go, I must admit I am still surprised
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/Richmond/Riewoldt_bro246x316a.jpg)
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SEN played a snippet from Richo saying Jack can become the dominant key forward of the next decade.
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he is a star of player the team just needs to catch up and he needs a P.I.C
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Riewoldt Griffiths & Astbury will be making a mess of other clubs defences pretty soon IMHO.
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reckon we're seeing the emergence of a gun. That 3rd quarter was party time. Great great effort again tonight, defenders poo thmselves 1 on 1 aginst this 21 yo, and that mark :lol brilliant
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He is a superstar this bloke
he is our Richo for the next 10 years i just hope he plays more finals than our old pal did
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Riewoldt Griffiths & Astbury will be making a mess of other clubs defences pretty soon IMHO.
You're not keen on trading him anymore Ramps ;D
Sign him up now Tiges!!
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Riewoldt Griffiths & Astbury will be making a mess of other clubs defences pretty soon IMHO.
You're not keen on trading him anymore Ramps ;D
roflmao :lol
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Fantastic tonight. All over the ground.
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AA looking good Jack. Bench spot at the very least :thumbsup
over 30 goals last year. should get 60-80 this year, id say the spot is his if he keeps it up
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/06/04/1225875/689545-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
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lol
wat a stuffing great grab!!!
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/06/04/1225875/689545-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
A ripper of a mark :thumbsup. I reckon it got us going as we finished the last 10 minutes of the 2nd quarter well which lead into the 3rd quarter fightback.
20 goals in 4 weeks to Jack which is awesome form. He's only now one behind Pav in the Coleman although the big guns still have to play this weekend.
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Absolutely breathtaking tonight.
There were times tonight I couldn't believe my eyes.
He is just about the most improved player in the AFL....He could of easily kicked 8 tonight.
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Riewoldt Griffiths & Astbury will be making a mess of other clubs defences pretty soon IMHO.
You're not keen on trading him anymore Ramps ;D
Sign him up now Tiges!!
im impressed by his improvement so yes - im not keen on seeing him being traded. ;D
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Dear Media, please note - he's name is JACK not Nick
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Dear Media, please note - he's name is JACK not Nick
nick who?
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If he keeps taking on the responsibility that he is and doing well he is the natural replacement for Simmo in the leadership group.
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Maybe we should trade him we could probably get all GC's top ten draft picks for him.
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I'm glad someone I backed hasn't made me chow down on my words as usual ... :santa He is on fire, and yeah if it wasn't for the yips where he missed 2 sodas he would of had 8 easily. That specca he took is another mark of the year candidate LOL he gonna have one every couple of weeks at this rate.
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Hmmmm maybe Adelaide would trade their whole side for him
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Dear Media, please note - he's name is JACK not Nick
nick who?
Is it too soon to go Richo who ?
(only joking still love you Matty)
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
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Francis Jackon, although pretty sure Miller was still involved in recruiting as well back then
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
Kings Dad?
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
the guy who found the King.
What a legend he was for our club.
ooh and that group, WOW. Conners, Collins and King. Such stars where did he find them.
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Actually Melbourne need a gun KPF maybe they would trade Scully, Trengove, Grimes, Petit and Jamar for him
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Jack is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
Monk seeing Jack over the last few weeks, just wondering what your own words taste like?
popelord your a stuffwit
When l posted this was Rewoldt doing any of the things l mentioned.
got anymore dumb posts :rollin :rollin
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Jack is now up to 4th in the Coleman :thumbsup
Pavlich 39
Fevola 39
Hall 37
J.Riewoldt 35
J.Brown 35
Kennedy 32
S.Johnson 31
Green 27
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Jack Rivals Richo
richmondfc.com.au
Tony Greenberg
Mon 07 June, 2010
An interesting statistical indicator of just how well Jack Riewoldt is performing this year is the fact that throughout Matthew Richardson’s entire career at Richmond, only once did he have more goals on the board at the halfway mark of the home-and-away season than the rising Tiger star forward has now.
Riewoldt’s six-goal haul in the Tigers’ loss to St Kilda at Etihad Stadium last Friday night, took his season’s tally after 11 rounds to 35, and puts him in equal fourth place overall on the AFL’s goalkicking table.
He has been the leading goalkicker in the competition over the past six rounds, with 25 goals, ahead of Brendan Fevola (22), Matthew Pavlich (20), Steve Johnson (19), Barry Hall (18) and Josh Kennedy (18).
You have to go all the way back to 1996 to find the only time Matthew Richardson had scored more goals than Riewoldt at the corresponding stage of the season.
Midway through the ’96 season, ‘Richo’ had booted 44 goals, on his way to a career-high 91 for the year.
In no other season, however, did Richo manage to register as many goals as Riewoldt now has at the halfway mark of the 2010 home-and-away rounds.
Riewoldt also managed to write his name in the record books, with his effort against the Saints last Friday night, along with teammate Andrew Collins.
The pair kicked all of Richmond’s eight goals for the match (six to Riewoldt and two from Collins), which is the most Tiger team goals scored by just two goalkickers since Jack Titus and Laird Smith in 1941.
Titus kicked five goals and Smith booted three, in the Tigers’ losing total of 8.13 against Melbourne’s 14.24 in Round 11 of the 1941 season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/95868/default.aspx
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
lol miller didnt think riewoldt would last to pick 8 so down traded it to pick 13 and gave up pick 42 for that champion polak sheesh. they effectively gave up any chance of getting riewoldt by trading out of a top 10 pick. just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
lol miller didnt think riewoldt would last to pick 8 so down traded it to pick 13 and gave up pick 42 for that champion polak sheesh. they effectively gave up any chance of getting riewoldt by trading out of a top 10 pick. just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
Same BS and absolute codswallop on two boards now. Jackson and Miller had ample evidence that Jack would slip to 13. They laid it out in full at the 2006 pre-draft night. Give up with your tired ignorant rants.
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
lol miller didnt think riewoldt would last to pick 8 so down traded it to pick 13 and gave up pick 42 for that champion polak sheesh. they effectively gave up any chance of getting riewoldt by trading out of a top 10 pick. just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
LOL it is amazing how history favors those who recount it :lol
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Jack is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
Monk seeing Jack over the last few weeks, just wondering what your own words taste like?
popelord your a effwit
When l posted this was Rewoldt doing any of the things l mentioned.
got anymore dumb posts :rollin :rollin
Theres not enough room for my dumb posts you do enough for us all lol.
It's Riewoldt by the way.
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just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
Not how I remember it at all Claw. When he was taken at 13 most thought he was over priced and probably only worth a 2nd round pick at best. Much too slow for AFL was the biggest knock if I recall. It might hurt to acknowledge it but it appears they (Miller and Jackson) got this one dead right.
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Not how I remember it at all Claw. When he was taken at 13 most thought he was over priced and probably only worth a 2nd round pick at best. Much too slow for AFL was the biggest knock if I recall. It might hurt to acknowledge it but it appears they (Miller and Jackson) got this one dead right.
Weavers Phantom Draft - Riewoldt @ #33 (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279879)
Burgatrons Phantom Draft - Riewoldt @ #8 (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/35868/default.aspx)
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might be wrong but i thought Weaver had Riewoldt 40 odd and Hislop top 5-10
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Richo lauds young Jack
ADAM SMITH
June 09, 2010
RICHMOND favourite son Matthew Richardson believes his in-form former teammate Jack Riewoldt is now an on-field leader.
Riewoldt has been a revelation in the past month, booting 20 goals to rocket to equal fourth in the Coleman Medal race with 35 even though the Tigers have won just one match for the season.
He snagged six in an impressive showing against St Kilda last Friday night - looking every part the No. 1 target the club has been crying out for since Richardson retired from the game.
Richardson, who was yesterday elevated to legend status in the Tasmanian Hall of Fame, is confident his fellow Tasmanian is piecing together his game to become a future leader at Punt Rd.
"Jack has been fantastic, these last five weeks he has been the in-form key forward in the competition in a team that is not scoring heavily and losing," Richardson said.
"He has improved out of sight, he has taken that No. 1 forward role at the club, last year he basically had that forward-line burden and he has gradually got used to it and this year he has been outstanding.
"There is still a lot of room for improvement in his game, he is only 21 and he has a big future in front of him.
"He is going to be a leader, he is great around the changerooms and out on the ground he is very vibrant."
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/06/09/151291_afl.html
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
lol miller didnt think riewoldt would last to pick 8 so down traded it to pick 13 and gave up pick 42 for that champion polak sheesh. they effectively gave up any chance of getting riewoldt by trading out of a top 10 pick. just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
who had him at 5 ?
He had hardly played afl up to that draft.
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RICHMOND favourite son Matthew Richardson believes his in-form former teammate Jack Riewoldt is now an on-field leader.
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying the last few weeks.
You can see Jack is winning a lot of trust and that the boys have faith in him to take a contested mark. He's the one bloke geeing everyone up when we are down.
All this talk about whether Deledio/Cotchin are next captain could be premature. There's nothing like a contested mark to encourage a team. His work rate and selflessness is outstanding these days. We could have a marking forward leader of the quality of Carey/Brown if you chart his progress and that is invaluable. Personally I think he should take Simmonds place in the leadership group at seasons end if he keeps up this form and more importantly this effort.
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who had him at 5 ?
He had hardly played afl up to that draft.
Jack Riewoldt? He'd played plenty, he switched from soccer as a kid, but he still played plenty of junior and senior VFL football
Was certainly considered a likely Top 10 selection prior to the draft
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who had him at 5 ?
He had hardly played afl up to that draft.
Jack Riewoldt? He'd played plenty, he switched from soccer as a kid, but he still played plenty of junior and senior VFL football
Was certainly considered a likely Top 10 selection prior to the draft
And his draft camp results were poor. Quite slow, so he slipped in all calculations. The Brown twins went past him. FJ and GM knew this and traded accordingly. Whether you agree with trading for Polak or not is irrelevant. Our preference in order for KP's/rucks at that draft was:
- Hanson
- Gumbleton
- Reiwoldt
- Renouf
- Mitch Brown
- Brad Sellar ??? FJ had huge doubts on Sellars
Thus FJ and GM were confident that they could trade down and still get Jack. It was a calculated risk that paid off.
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might be wrong but i thought Weaver had Riewoldt 40 odd and Hislop top 5-10
Click through on the link and have a read. It's interesting looking back.
33. Jack Reiwoldt (Hawthorn) - A slow centreman in a KP player’s body. Takes very short steps when he runs which can give the impression of running on the spot. Gets his marks from superior reading of the play and anticipation. Lack of athleticism should seem him be the dropper in this draft. Doesn’t get gaps on defenders which means he takes too many contested marks, relies on losing opponents in traffic and getting the ball at ground level. Hawks have never been too fussed about athleticism and won’t be shy about calling his name.
8 - COLLINGWOOD - JACK RIEWOLDT
Tassie Mariners, 31 October 1988, 192.3cm, 85.4kg
Another draft 'sub-plot' thickens with Collingwood an intriguing player with two selections inside its top 10. It is understood both the Magpies and Saints are eager to secure the cousin of St Kilda superstar Nick, but if the Pies want him, they must nab him with this selection otherwise they run the risk of the Saints snapping him up with their next pick. But will the Pies consider Thorp, a ruckman (more on that at No.10) or a midfielder with this pick? It genuinely could be a toss up for the Pies, between Riewoldt and Thorp, if they are both available at this choice. The fact that St Kilda is the meat in the Collingwood sandwich makes it an appetising notion. There is no way Leuenberger would get past the Magpies, while if Geelong opted for an alternate to Boak, then the Pies would not let the sleek midfielder pass by either.
Highlights/achievements: Goal-kicking forward who is extremely strong overhead. Impressive at VFL level in eight games for Tasmanian Devils including outstanding game versus Bendigo Bombers where he took 13 marks and kicked four goals. From Clarence F.C.
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I notice Weaver had Connors going at 7 also. :o
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- Brad Sellar ??? FJ had huge doubts on Sellars
Thus FJ and GM were confident that they could trade down and still get Jack. It was a calculated risk that paid off.
James Sellar.
He hasn't done a thing at Adelaide. Lucky FJ had his doubts.
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I notice Weaver had Connors going at 7 also. :o
and Edwards at #10
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Riewoldt has leadership written all over him.
last one at training, packing up the ball with the coaches etc.
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I love Jack, and have since watching him in a final for Coburg. Has that extroverted arrogance that has been lacking at tigerland. Purely hypothetical but if he kicks 60 plus goals in a bottom side, what would his trade value be like?? Given the demand for KPF's would he attract first round picks??
Purely out of interest I ask. Giving up Jack would be a step backwards but I think there would be a few clubs that would give up alot for him atm.
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Interesting change from a few weeks ago when he was seen as spoilt and selfish.
Saw a spot on TV, think it may have been One Week at a Time, where they showed footage of Jack walking around after kicking a goal and he was slapping hands with team mates but with a big scowl on his face. Their comments were about him lightening up and smiling a bit. Looked at the score on screen showing we were down 70-24.
Shows you can't win with the media. Critical if you celebrate too much and then critical if you don't celebrate when you're teams down by 50 points. :P
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Shows you can't win with the media. Critical if you celebrate too much and then critical if you don't celebrate when you're teams down by 50 points. :P
Thought the exact same thing myself tonight RT when watching Footy Teams. Shaw mentioned that it was only a few weeks since Riewoldt was getting told by everyone to knuckle down and pay more attention after the video from the rooms at half time but his advice to Jack is to ignore all that and go out and do what you do best - play the game your own way. I thought to myself what a sniveling germ - HE was one of the biggest members of the death by hanging posse riding around calling for Jack's head at the time.
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the fact that throughout Matthew Richardson’s entire career at Richmond, only once did he have more goals on the board at the halfway mark of the home-and-away season than the rising Tiger star forward has now.
Give me a break,FFS! ::)
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OX, You need to add to your sig
Spoons 26 (1897, 1898, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1902, 1904, 1905, 1909, 1910, 1920, 1924, 1943, 1945, 1947, 1948, 1952, 1954, 1955, 1977, 1979, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 2000) :rollin
Wikepedia lists 27 but says 26 ??? Anyway :rollin
I love reminding them when they get a bit ahead of themselves.
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Jack is lazy & could use some more of his energy every week by helping put preasure on the defenders.
Monk seeing Jack over the last few weeks, just wondering what your own words taste like?
popelord your a effwit
When l posted this was Rewoldt doing any of the things l mentioned.
got anymore dumb posts :rollin :rollin
I think we should trade him.. what do you think?
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a magnificent performance from Jack today. whole team was outstanding, the only thing missing for me was a Griffiths Goal but you cant have it all I suppose.
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a magnificent performance from Jack today. whole team was outstanding, the only thing missing for me was a Griffiths Goal but you cant have it all I suppose.
It wont get picked up on the TV and may go unnoticed in the last qtr especially Griffiths decoyed away from Riewoldt on every opportunity. Im assuming that was his role and he was superb.
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a magnificent performance from Jack today. whole team was outstanding, the only thing missing for me was a Griffiths Goal but you cant have it all I suppose.
It wont get picked up on the TV and may go unnoticed in the last qtr especially Griffiths decoyed away from Riewoldt on every opportunity. Im assuming that was his role and he was superb.
Yep ... but a goal for the kid would have been the icing on the cake thats all! :gotigers
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a magnificent performance from Jack today. whole team was outstanding, the only thing missing for me was a Griffiths Goal but you cant have it all I suppose.
It wont get picked up on the TV and may go unnoticed in the last qtr especially Griffiths decoyed away from Riewoldt on every opportunity. Im assuming that was his role and he was superb.
Yep ... but a goal for the kid would have been the icing on the cake thats all! :gotigers
Would have been perfect! He'll have his day too Griffiths :gotigers
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It wont get picked up on the TV and may go unnoticed in the last qtr especially Griffiths decoyed away from Riewoldt on every opportunity. Im assuming that was his role and he was superb.
What role PL? I wasn't aware we had a game plan or that our players had roles? LOL at our Chicken Littles.
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i would like to know who wanted to trade Riewoldt?
???
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i would like to know who wanted to trade Riewoldt?
???
i wanted to trade him a while back because I felt he was only a 3rd tall. im pleased to say that i was mistaken and that Jack has done really well.
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well well well what a performance. real team effort was really good to see some real pressure put on the Eagles when they had the ball.
Most impressed today with Jack R, Edwards yes thats right Edwards, Lids, Dusty and Nason.
Our 2 ruckman deserve played well today. I dont care what anyone says, Graham is turning into a Ruckman
Not impressed again with Farmer but has done enough to keep his spot. Some shocking turnovers especially in the last.
Hate to say it but Tambling well he is the only one not performing week after week.
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Hate to say it but Tambling well he is the only one not performing week after week.
BS
DIMMA IS VERY HAPPY with blingers, its not his fault that at times he is 2 steps ahead of the team as they have to be smarter cos he is just ahead of them always. but blingers is doing very well in his role, he is always going in hard when its his turn to go and dimma loves that
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Hate to say it but Tambling well he is the only one not performing week after week.
BS
DIMMA IS VERY HAPPY with blingers, its not his fault that at times he is 2 steps ahead of the team as they have to be smarter cos he is just ahead of them always. but blingers is doing very well in his role, he is always going in hard when its his turn to go and dimma loves that
Angus had more touches. I thought he looked okay today though, but is that the output we should expect?
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C'mon enough is enough we gotta get rid of this Spud.
How are we supposed to be dark and gloomy with a 21 yo kid dominating games
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C'mon enough is enough we gotta get rid of this Spud.
How are we supposed to be dark and gloomy with a 21 yo kid dominating games
If we can get Jack Anthony and the Pies first rounder we'll be doing well.
Do it Miller, make it happen!!! :lol
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Farmer wasn't too shabby...saw him smash into several packs and come out with the ball...didn't cause me too much consternation..did that and kicked a goal too if a I recall ... That game gave me not just a woody but an oak tree. The Tiges were tough across the board, all of em, hard at it. Griff didn't get his mitts on it much but he wasn't getting much love from the kick ins, he was very cunning with his positioning and didn't go stuffing up the contest for Jack. He drew men off, or made position deeper toward goal or cut in front. I really like how fast he is too for a big unit. He will get his turn to shine when they start sending the pill his way a bit.
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Great to see the forum up and running again, gee for a minute I was having withdrawl symptoms... :lol. Great to watch Jack on the weekend.... do the trade freaks still wan't to get rid of him.. ;D
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He's now my favourite for #17.
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Ge I still chuckle at the comments that wanted to trade him 3 weeks ago.. :lol
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Hate to say it but Tambling well he is the only one not performing week after week.
BS
DIMMA IS VERY HAPPY with blingers, its not his fault that at times he is 2 steps ahead of the team as they have to be smarter cos he is just ahead of them always. but blingers is doing very well in his role, he is always going in hard when its his turn to go and dimma loves that
Interestingly, Sunday was the first time I've been disppointed with parts of Richie's game this season and everyone knows I've backed him all year.
Not disputing for a minute about him going in hard at the contest but a couple of times I thought he just didn't chade hard enough coming out of the HF line
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the most disappointing thing was when he went for a run through the center then handballed sidways to a man standing still when he reached the edge of the center square, rather than kick into the forward line. Shows that his problems are all between his ears.
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Ge I still chuckle at the comments that wanted to trade him 3 weeks ago.. :lol
C'mon Pope in fairness he was a KPF that had been in the system for ages and ages and showed no signs what so ever of promise. I mean really how long do we have to wait for superstars to appear, it should be half a season max. I better put one of these in ;)
Young Jack has still got a bit of filling out to do in the top half of his body and can only get stronger.
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It's interesting that Jack isn't getting that much more of the ball compared to I think last year but his effectiveness in front of the big sticks has skyrocketed.
Disposals 12.3 12.8
Con. Marks 1.2 2.5
Goal avg 1.6 3.8
Accuracy 54% 64%
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Riewoldt gives Tiger fans something to celebrate - at last
JAKE NIALL
June 16, 2010
WHEN Jack Riewoldt booted his 10th goal on Sunday, he turned to face the fans at the Punt Road end and raised his arms.
This moment lasted only a few seconds. The fans, experiencing a rare version of Richmond rapture, doubtless would have liked more face-to-face time with Jack, but he was quickly mobbed by his teammates.
These handful of seconds were heavy with symbolism. Riewoldt had turned to the fans, shared in their celebration fleetingly. But the arrival of his teammates superseded - and killed - any notion that he was new messiah.
Jack Riewoldt is excited after he kicked his 10th goal against West Coast last Sunday. Photo: Getty Images
In Foxtel's telecast of the game, Dwayne Russell called Riewoldt the ''new king at Tigerland''. Damien Hardwick, clearly, didn't want an individual to receive such premature adulation and discouraged Riewoldt from talking to the Foxtel folk, as is customary, out on the ground - a decision for which Hardwick subsequently apologised.
Any player who kicks 10 goals is bound to be talked about. When he does it at a lowly team that is showing signs of life, the fans are bound to become even more excited. The Tigers, doubtless, will sell plenty of Riewoldt-related merchandise in the coming months and years.
Riewoldt's emergence as the latest Richmond idol seems almost pre-destined, when one considers the extraordinary lineage of Tassie Tiger forwards to precede him.
From 1966 until 1977, there was Royce Hart, the greatest centre half-forward of his era, who was recruited from the same Tasmanian club, Clarence, as Riewoldt.
Hart's last season at Punt Road was the first of another Tassie kid who would take big grabs and inspire kids to wear the No. 8 on his back - Michael Roach, also known as ''Disco''.
Roach lasted until 1989, sharing duties for a time with another talented spearhead, Brian Taylor. There was then a brief interregnum of three years.
Then Matthew Richardson, the son of Alan ''Bull'' Richardson and another Tasmanian product, began his unique 17-year relationship with the club.
They might be Richmond's four Rs - Royce, Roach, Richo and now Riewoldt. All of them high-marking forwards. Royce won them flags, Roach kicked a century and played in their last premiership. Richo sustained interest in the club in mostly dark times.
This is the breach into which Riewoldt has leapt. He is fated to be feted as a Richmond forward. The club will have a wonderful marketing tool if it ever plays a home game in Hobart.
The Tigers are aware of the excitement that a player such as Riewoldt can create. Yet, they are also very mindful that he is 21 and that the club will not prosper if he becomes a solitary focus - on and off the field.
''Jack's exciting the fans,'' acknowledged Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale, another former Tasmanian. ''But what's exciting to me is his commitment to the team.''
Gale noted that while Riewoldt had created this excitement among the supporters, ''nothing excites them more than winning'', and to be successful required a team-first ethos. Gale reels off the names of the youngsters with whom Riewoldt shares the stage: Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin. He notes, too, that Riewoldt led the competition in tackles in the forward 50 until last weekend - a rarity for a leading goalkicker.
Riewoldt, thus, will not receive star treatment from the club administration, players and coaches, even if he is bound to be built up to icon stature by supporters.
How will he handle this hype? Greg Miller, director of football when Riewoldt was recruited in the 2006 draft - a decision he credits to the recruiting chief, Francis Jackson - believes that Riewoldt will remain grounded.
''Part of a player's growth is in having to go through it [hype] and come out the other side. It's part of your development,'' said Miller, who describes Riewoldt as a confident and ''effervescent'' young man. ''He'll be fine.''
Miller, who now works part-time with Riewoldt's manager, Ricky Nixon, said Jackson had been so convinced of Riewoldt's worth when he was playing in Tassie that he went to games, not so much to watch Jack, but to check on ''what other clubs were there''.
Jackson, according to Miller, needed to be assured the Tigers wouldn't lose Riewoldt when they traded down the draft order, from No. 8 to 13, in 2006.
''He wouldn't allow me to do the Polak deal unless he was convinced that we would still get Jack.''
So the Tigers got their fourth R. The fans got a reason to be excited.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-gives-tiger-fans-something-to-celebrate--at-last-20100615-yda9.html?rand=1276609720680
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C'mon enough is enough we gotta get rid of this Spud.
How are we supposed to be dark and gloomy with a 21 yo kid dominating games
that is GOLD Chuck!!! :rollin :rollin :rollin :thatsgold :thatsgold :thatsgold
So good that finally we can be tongue in cheek about things like this!
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Jack Riewoldt :bow :bow :bow.....I haven't been this excited since I was a teenager seeing breasts for the first time. ;D
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Young Jack has still got a bit of filling out to do in the top half of his body and can only get stronger.
I hope he doesn't fill out too much.
He's already got natural core strength and balance, combined with great timing on the leap. He doesn't need to bulk up because his natural smarts let him outwit opponents in the contest. While not super quick at the moment, it is enough to get him a metre on an opponent if they are not careful.
But if he were to really bulk up and lose his stamina and agility I would be worried that he would become predictable having no option but to initiate contact, and that his work rate and tackling would go down. Also, if he were to work too much on his upper body, I think that there is a risk of becoming top heavy and losing balance.
Either way we have Griffiths who will be the real power forward so I would be happy for the club to realize that Jack doesn't really need to bulk up too much to continue to be a very effective player for a long time.
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Jack Riewoldt :bow :bow :bow.....I haven't been this excited since I was a teenager seeing breasts for the first time. ;D
patience amigo patience.
i will get excited when i see Griffiths and/or Astbury take off. We all now know Jack has what it takes now but the icing on the cake will be when the other 2 start bagging 5 goals in a game.
Then i will now we have arrived. We dont want another Richo where the goals are left for him to kick.
That being said if Jack keeps this up then next year we can easily add another 10k members purely on the excitement that he would bring.
Much like Cuz.
The Kangas must get so teary when a good year from one bloke can bring that many members into a club..lol.
It will happen make no mistake even if we get the spoon.
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I agree with Dan we need to see one of the other blokes performs well - Astbury gave us a glimpse with 3 goals, but I'd like to see Griffiths get some goals and then Id like to see two of the three get multiple goals in the same game.
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Jack will see us get a couple more prime time slots next season.
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WOW - What a time for the site to go down! I was gunna cum on and explode over Jack.
Those at the game, how good was that atmosphere?, haven't cheered like that for a while.
:clapping
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WOW - What a time for the site to go down! I was gunna cum on and explode over Jack.
Those at the game, how good was that atmosphere?, haven't cheered like that for a while.
:clapping
very Richo like behind the goals. I was on the wing but the noise they were making and singing was just like the Richo days
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Does he come of contract with us at the end of the year? if so better secure him right away !!!
P.s how many votes do you reckon he has got for the brownlow :p
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Has he got a nickname?
If he keeps cutting opposition defences to pieces, how about Jack the Ripper?
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Has he got a nickname?
I think it's 'Jumpin' Jack'
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from day one he has had the smarts about him, great performance.
lets see where it leads us..
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isn't it funny how things turn out.
i think it was only about 6 weeks ago that we along with the team were all thinking jack will be a great 3rd forward when we get griff and astbury up and running.
now 6 weeks later, jack has proven himself to be a genuine kpp and the rise of griff and astbury will just make the forwardline that much more deadly.
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I agree with Dan we need to see one of the other blokes performs well - Astbury gave us a glimpse with 3 goals, but I'd like to see Griffiths get some goals and then Id like to see two of the three get multiple goals in the same game.
wait untill Troy Taylor kicks 6 goals and punched 2 defenders
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Richmond's Jack Riewoldt in box seat against Brisbane Lions
Ben Dorries
Herald Sun
June 17, 2010
THERE'S one man in the Brisbane camp who won't be totally surprised if rising Richmond superstar Jack Riewoldt kicks another bag of goals against the Lions on Saturday.
Craig McRae - the three-time Lions premiership player - played a pivotal role in the development of the young goalkicking whiz and says he has the skill and personality to become one of the game's great forwards.
McRae spent three years as development coach of the Tigers before returning to Brisbane's coaching ranks and says the Lions have good reason to be wary of Riewoldt.
The 21-year-old Tiger cub kicked 10 goals against West Coast last weekend and is a surprise leader in the Coleman Medal with 45 goals ahead of Barry Hall (43), Brendan Fevola (41) and Matthew Pavlich (40).
"Jack is up and about at the moment ... he is at the top of his game," McRae warned.
"He has always shown the capability of kicking a number of goals. He is leading the Coleman Medal, so you have got to take him seriously. He is an energetic guy with lots of enthusiasm."
Recruited from Clarence, Tasmania, in the 2006 draft, Riewoldt last weekend became the first player to kick 10 goals in a match since Lions spearhead Jonathan Brown against Carlton in Round 16, 2007.
It's been no surprise that he has been at his best in the last couple of weeks as Richmond emerged from the doldrums with consecutive wins.
Every sport needs a young rising star to captivate attention and Riewoldt has been a dream for AFL promotion this season.
Phil Jauncey, a leading sports psychologist who has consulted to several high-profile sporting teams and athletes, classified Riewoldt a "mozzie" - a player who is at his best when he performs on instinct.
"In the personality traits, according to Phil Jauncey, he is a mozzie," McRae said.
"He is a leader of instinct and a habit creator. He is playing on his instincts at the moment."
By their own admission, the Lions have been the worst team in the competition in the last eight weeks and the clash against Richmond won't be easy. McRae has an intimate knowledge of the Richmond structures and development programs and is sure his former side is building impressively.
"They started the year slowly and you would probably expect that, after the season they had last year and with 14 changes," McRae said.
"Things were going to take a little bit of time to build, but they have hit their straps and now we meet them after they have won two games in a row.
"They have certainly shown some real spirit the last couple of weeks. Their game plan is coming together nicely.
"I've got mixed emotions. There are a lot of good people there and I've got a lot of good friends there."
McRae echoed the thoughts of head coach Michael Voss when he claimed the rest of the season was about effort rather than premiership points for the Lions.
"You look at anything else other than just pure effort at the moment and I think you are a bit naive," he said. "Players have to be accountable for their actions and not make excuses - it gets us nowhere.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-jack-riewoldt-in-box-seat-against-brisbane-lions/story-e6frf9ix-1225880598943
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I agree with Dan we need to see one of the other blokes performs well - Astbury gave us a glimpse with 3 goals, but I'd like to see Griffiths get some goals and then Id like to see two of the three get multiple goals in the same game.
wait untill Troy Taylor kicks 6 goals and punched 2 defenders
he can start by punching 2 defenders then ;D
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McRae has an intimate knowledge of the Richmond structures and development programs
Not any more he doesn't, it has all changed :)
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Hype won't hamper Riewoldt's rise, say Tigers
richmondfc.com.au
By Adam McNicol
Thu 17 June, 2010
RICHMOND assistant coach Justin Leppitsch says the Tigers are confident Jack Riewoldt can stay focused despite talk of a lucrative contract extension.
Riewoldt currently leads the race for the Coleman Medal after booting 10 goals last week, to take his season tally to 45.
The spike in Riewoldt's form has led to suggestions Richmond has taken the first steps in securing its new star - who comes out of contract at the end of 2011 - to a longer-term deal.
But Leppitsch says the emerging young star is keeping his feet on the ground ahead of the Tigers' clash with the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Saturday night.
"He's got a great attitude, a great personality," Leppitsch said of the Richmond full-forward on Thursday. "I think he takes success very well."
“He more than anyone knows he has to keep grounded and he’s done a good job of that.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/96478/default.aspx
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A whole new generation of young Tigers about to emerge with the full forward's #8 on their back.
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I think this game will be a test for him IMO, if he can beat Merrit he really has progressed, to do that I would expect him to kick at least 4 and have a decent number of marks, tackles and goal assists.
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consistancy is what Hardwick wants from Riewoldt!
Riewoldt will need to start jumping for marks.
other clubs will work out, one on one, he will try to position himself and not jump up for it.
Go Jack!
:gotigers
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I think this game will be a test for him IMO, if he can beat Merrit he really has progressed, to do that I would expect him to kick at least 4 and have a decent number of marks, tackles and goal assists.
He'll beat Merrett one on one. The question is, will he beat a constant double or triple team.
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I wonder if jackstar still thinks riewoldt is a hack that isnt good enough and should be traded?
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I think this game will be a test for him IMO, if he can beat Merrit he really has progressed, to do that I would expect him to kick at least 4 and have a decent number of marks, tackles and goal assists.
He'll beat Merrett one on one. The question is, will he beat a constant double or triple team.
Well if they wan't to tripple team him that will really open the door for Griffiths to kick a bag, Vickery to work forward and if they want to keep Griffiths quiet as well they will have to keep another man behind the ball. That will make it very hard for the Lions to move into their forward line quickly with that many men down back.
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I wonder if jackstar still thinks riewoldt is a hack that isnt good enough and should be traded?
Gee there were a lot in that line, the same ones in the trade Tambling, Floey etc... line, lets hope more can be proven wrong. I was all for getting rid of Edwards and while he has been off the boil over the past few weeks he has definitely improved this year overall.. lets hope he keeps it going!!
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I wonder if jackstar still thinks riewoldt is a hack that isnt good enough and should be traded?
l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude was going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together but l'm impressed with his progress.
Development was always the question at Richmond for many years. Now we are seeing footballers with better skills.
Exactly what we had been saying for years & the writing on the wall that Wallace & his clowns had severely lost the players & couldnot coach.
l'm happy the way the players development over the last 6 weeks has progressed & the weak & timid players are throwing themselves in to win the ball.
Edwards progress is exciting & Martin is one of the strongest yound lads l ever seen play football & thats a statement.
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So jaks not a dud.
If he can do what he has done last few weeks he will be great.
If...
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So jaks not a dud.
If he can do what he has done last few weeks he will be great.
If...
its the development of the team that is bringing them all together which is letting Rewoldt show his true ability
If they all continue to learn from each other & grow with confidence then we will see more enjoyable football win, lose or draw
It has been good to watch but Rewoldts work on his lower body strength & the way his using his body to win the ball is impressive lately.
When you got strong players like Tuck & Martin winning the ball & getting it out too players who can kick lately then thats exciting, even more so cause we will see some huge marks from Rewoldt
Whats great is that to see someone kick 10 goals in a young side like that can only lead to good things in the future.
Rewoldt has a spring to him now, Its going to be hard for any defender to contain him cause his worked on his 2nd & 3rd efforts & his tackling is bringing those around him into the game
Declining to be interviewed on the ground after the game was great as that was truely a Richmond football club effort
Anyone know where l can get a copy of the game off the net
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https://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_product&productid=14569&orgid=1751
Here Monk, the club are selling DVD's for $35.00
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https://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_product&productid=14569&orgid=1751
Here Monk, the club are selling DVD's for $35.00
or look for it on a torrent site.
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This is the new TM apparently he is cashing in his other memberships and buying a tiges one as well as supporting the club by buying its game dvds
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watching his nomination for MOY,it reminded me of Gary Senior
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TM give it up mate. You've made another stupid call.
His leading tackles in Offensive 50 shows he hasn't been lazy all yeah.
Give it up mate. Your 100% wrong.
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TM give it up mate. You've made another stupid call.
His leading tackles in Offensive 50 shows he hasn't been lazy all yeah.
Give it up mate. Your 100% wrong.
am l gobbledock, prove me wrong Popelord ;D show your football knowledge. l'm giving you the chance mouth. tell me
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Pay attention.
He is winning tackles in offensive 50.
Only the world dumbest living thing would assume a forward that is leading the Coleman medal and offensive 50 tackles is lazy. :rollin
"Trade Riewoldt" - TigerMonk 2010.
Lol, your entertainingly stupid.
I recall you were the flog that wanted us to recruit Butcher over Martin.
You continue to say absolute garbage...
Try and prove your right. Name your price on the Riewoldt trade Einstein lol.
Have another beer old man.
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Pay attention.
He is winning tackles in offensive 50.
Only the world dumbest living thing would assume a forward that is leading the Coleman medal and offensive 50 tackles is lazy. :rollin
"Trade Riewoldt" - TigerMonk 2010.
Lol, your entertainingly stupid.
I recall you were the flog that wanted us to recruit Butcher over Martin.
You continue to say absolute garbage...
Try and prove your right. Name your price on the Riewoldt trade Einstein lol.
Have another beer old man.
Popelord you are a raving effing idiot & proved absolutely nothing in that post
have another beer ;D feb 2009 haha eat it stupid fool
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This is the new TM apparently he is cashing in his other memberships and buying a tiges one as well as supporting the club by buying its game dvds
Chuck why would l cash them in when l already have a Tiger membership ;D
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https://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_product&productid=14569&orgid=1751
Here Monk, the club are selling DVD's for $35.00
your not serious surely. :lol thanks anyway
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Great to see Jack kick that pressure goal in the last quarter.It was all over after that.
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Really good game from Jack again last night, did the one percenters all night. He is really turning out to be and all rounder for mine!!
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Another good game from Jack. His marking is great to watch.
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I liked that he didn't get carried away and try and kick a bag. With all the hype it might have been a tempting thing to do. But he stuck to doing the team thing. Even when it wasn't the right decision (e.g. the handball to Deledio on the run from around the 50 arc when he could have gone back and roosted it) it showed he is thinking team before himself.
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I liked that he didn't get carried away and try and kick a bag. With all the hype it might have been a tempting thing to do. But he stuck to doing the team thing. Even when it wasn't the right decision (e.g. the handball to Deledio on the run from around the 50 arc when he could have gone back and roosted it) it showed he is thinking team before himself.
if you call that team thing & not thinking of himself lol
l call it a stupid decision by Rewoldt & keeping Brisbane in the game when it could have been a possible goal from a set shot.
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I'd prefer the ball in delideo's hands from 50m than Jacks
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I'd prefer the ball in delideo's hands from 50m than Jacks
Ditto best long shot in the team although Newman may get close
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I'd prefer the ball in delideo's hands from 50m than Jacks
same here AL but you dont handball to a player thats going to run into trouble the minute you had it off.
l would have dragged him & beat him up in the interchange box ;D
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I'd prefer the ball in delideo's hands from 50m than Jacks
same here AL but you dont handball to a player thats going to run into trouble the minute you had it off.
l would have dragged him & beat him up in the interchange box ;D
Deledio shouldn't have made the call..
Wasn't Jack's fault at all, he was thinking team though which is good
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Deledio shouldn't have made the call..
Wasn't Jack's fault at all, he was thinking team though which is good
Their both idiots for even trying it cause it was not on
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Saw this on BF's main board. Jack scores a goal once from every 3 times we kick the ball to him....
Updated figures after round 13 for the top 10 inside 50 targets and goals produced. Also a couple of honourable mentions to guys who feature highly in goals produced with less opportunity.
Fev 190 times = 42 goals - 22%
Hall 167 times = 46 goals - 27%
J Riewoldt 154 times = 48 goals - 32%
Brown 121 times = 35 goals - 28%
Tippett 116 times = 25 goals - 21%
Johnson 111 times = 36 goals - 32% *21 goal assists, highest in the comp
Franklin 111 times = 30 goals - 27%
Roughead 106 times = 28 goals - 26%
Kennedy 104 times = 35 goals - 33%
Pavlich 92 times = 40 goals - 43%
Honourable Mentions
Podsiadly 71 times = 29 goals - 41%
B Green = 77 times = 29 goals - 37%
As I mentioned last time, I realise this probably there are probably heaps of contributing factors, and it's not the be all and end all. I don't include small forwards given they often crumb opportunities from others being the I50 target.
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18221407&postcount=34
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Doubled team all day but still kicked another 5 goals :clapping. Now 5 clear at the top of the goalkicking ladder :thumbsup
The AFL Record confirmed Jack is taller than his cousin - 195cm, 93kg compared to Nick who is 193cm, 98kg. Jack grew another 2cm over summer and has shot up 3cm since being drafted (weighed 86kg in his first year btw). Matt Hornsby said Collins, Cotchin and Polo have also shot up.
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Doubled team all day but still kicked another 5 goals :clapping. Now 5 clear at the top of the goalkicking ladder :thumbsup
The AFL Record confirmed Jack is taller than his cousin - 195cm, 93kg compared to Nick who is 193cm, 98kg. Jack grew another 2cm over summer and has shot up 3cm since being drafted (weighed 86kg in his first year btw). Matt Hornsby said Collins, Cotchin and Polo have also shot up.
Jack said in an interview with Richo shown at half-time that he fibbed a bit to the footy record and he is probably 194cm/92kg. He said him and Nick are pretty much the same height but Nick a bit more bulk.
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Saw this on BF's main board. Jack scores a goal once from every 3 times we kick the ball to him....
One thing with this, I hope we nip any Richo-itis in the bud our midfielders might develop in terms of always looking for one target. Actually today he still kicked 5, but Sydney did a better job than most teams have double teaming him. LRT is a goof and looked almost decent, Grundy was excellent initiating contact just as Jack was going to and consequently putting Jack off balance. Overall Jack hurt them in small parts of the game, but during most of the 2nd and 3rd we were just bombing it to Jack and hoping and they were rebounding and killing us. Got to get smarter here.
One thing that is nice - how good is it to have players who kick straight in the forward line. Jack's kicking is now very good and Griffiths looks one of the most natural set shots you'll ever see for an 18 y.o.
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One thing with this, I hope we nip any Richo-itis in the bud our midfielders might develop in terms of always looking for one target. Actually today he still kicked 5, but Sydney did a better job than most teams have double teaming him. LRT is a goof and looked almost decent, Grundy was excellent initiating contact just as Jack was going to and consequently putting Jack off balance. Overall Jack hurt them in small parts of the game, but during most of the 2nd and 3rd we were just bombing it to Jack and hoping and they were rebounding and killing us. Got to get smarter here.
Spot on Jake, agree wholeheartedly with all this.
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
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Brilliant player who inspires and elevates those around him. If he can't mark it he brings it to ground and is great at keeping the ball alive when he can't pick up the ball in conjestion by kicking it along the ground (has to be his soccer background!). He could have easily kicked another tonight but instead set up Collins. Just a champion forward all round.
Stripes
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
have you got 2 ? :scream
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Pathetic. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon you can get out and push.
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Brilliant player who inspires and elevates those around him. If he can't mark it he brings it to ground and is great at keeping the ball alive when he can't pick up the ball in conjestion by kicking it along the ground (has to be his soccer background!). He could have easily kicked another tonight but instead set up Collins. Just a champion forward all round.
Stripes
You never see Fevola or Barry Hall run back with the flight of the ball in a 2nd effort towards goal to take a mark. The mark in the goal square Punt Road end turned the game for mine.
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Come clean TM, was it your old Tommy Roach or Kayne Pettifer jumper? ; ;D
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You never see Fevola or Barry Hall run back with the flight of the ball in a 2nd effort towards goal to take a mark. The mark in the goal square Punt Road end turned the game for mine.
It was J. Brown, W. Carey like just that desire to beat the other lot to the footy.
His core strength is remarkable. When Collins kicked the first of his final quarter goals, Jack marked, landed, perfectly balanced and swung onto his right whilst the defenders were struggling for balance.
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Pathetic. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon you can get out and push.
Popelord keep it up & your world will come crushing down on you
stop being a effwit ok, l'm tired of you effing poofta
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Brilliant player who inspires and elevates those around him. If he can't mark it he brings it to ground and is great at keeping the ball alive when he can't pick up the ball in conjestion by kicking it along the ground (has to be his soccer background!). He could have easily kicked another tonight but instead set up Collins. Just a champion forward all round.
Stripes
You never see Fevola or Barry Hall run back with the flight of the ball in a 2nd effort towards goal to take a mark. The mark in the goal square Punt Road end turned the game for mine.
that is the most stupid comment l ever read on this forum. :clapping just proves to me why l dont like you & your posts
you dont watch much football you stupid wanker
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Come clean TM, was it your old Tommy Roach or Kayne Pettifer jumper? ; ;D
Disco Roach jumper :thumbsup put it in a frame when he retired. Tetley Teabag logo ;D
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Pathetic. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon you can get out and push.
Popelord keep it up & your world will come crushing down on you
stop being a effwit ok, l'm tired of you effing poofta
"Popelord keep it up & your world will come crushing down on you" What are you 5 years old? Lol.
Mate you've bashed Riewoldt from pillar to post all year, you don't get to enjoy his success. Go and support one of the other 7 clubs you buy membership for. Your a junk bandwagon supporter.
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Brilliant player who inspires and elevates those around him. If he can't mark it he brings it to ground and is great at keeping the ball alive when he can't pick up the ball in conjestion by kicking it along the ground (has to be his soccer background!). He could have easily kicked another tonight but instead set up Collins. Just a champion forward all round.
Stripes
You never see Fevola or Barry Hall run back with the flight of the ball in a 2nd effort towards goal to take a mark. The mark in the goal square Punt Road end turned the game for mine.
that is the most stupid comment l ever read on this forum. :clapping just proves to me why l dont like you & your posts
you dont watch much football you stupid wanker
By all means refer to any instances that Brendon Fevola has shown a 2nd effort or the agility to back up an effort around the 30m line and run back and mark a kick in the goal sqaure marking it with the flight of the ball.
Just add this to all the other wrong comments you've made you flog. Your boring now TM. Get something right to atleast make it fair. Bring up John Butcher again Einstein, he'll be loooooads better than Dustin Martin.
Yawn. Go support Collingwood where you belong.
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I want to know who the Nuff Nuff's were, who said we shold trade Riewoldt?
where are they?
:banghead
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I want to know who the Nuff Nuff's were, who said we shold trade Riewoldt?
where are they?
:banghead
;D
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I want to know who the Nuff Nuff's were, who said we shold trade Riewoldt?
where are they?
:banghead
;D
lol, you'll never live this down Ramps.
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I want to know who the Nuff Nuff's were, who said we shold trade Riewoldt?
where are they?
:banghead
;D
lol, you'll never live this down Ramps.
:lol
probably not ... but Ill start running the "Hardwick has made Riewoldt a Champion" line to get through it lol.
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YOUR TEAM'S X-FACTOR
Richmond:
Jack Riewoldt — If he can get his kicking right, he has all the tools required to be a dominant forward. Richo is irreplaceable, but Jack has real presence.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/the-main-game-20100314-q5pu.html
jack atm is all talk and shows no presence
its time he lifted or off to the gold coast he goes for a draft pick
:lol
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Need a couple of more slides in your avatar wayne for Jack's latest two grabs ;)
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probably not ... but Ill start running the "Hardwick has made Riewoldt a Champion" line to get through it lol.
:lol
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Jack’s sizzling seven-game streak
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
7:14 PM Mon 05 July, 2010
Jack Riewoldt is in the midst of the hottest individual goalkicking streak seen in AFL football since 2001.
Richmond’s young gun spearhead has kicked 38 goals in the past seven rounds, taking his season’s tally to 53 and putting him five ahead of his nearest rival (Barry Hall) in the race for the Coleman Medal, as the competition’s leading goalkicker.
Essendon’s 12-time leading goalkicker, Matthew Lloyd, was the last league player to score more goals over a consecutive seven-match period. Lloyd kicked a total of 39 goals in Rounds 12-18 of the 2001 season, finishing with 105 for the year.
In Tigerland history, you have to go all the way back to 1984 to find the last time a player had a more prolific goalscoring sequence over seven successive weeks than what Riewoldt has achieved.
Brian Taylor booted 41 goals in Rounds 6-12 of the 1984 season, on his way to a final total of 61 (in 16 games) for the year.
Here is a snapshot of Riewoldt’s goalkicking spree over the past seven games . . .
Round 8 v Hawthorn: 4 goals
Round 9 v Essendon: 6 goals
Round 10 v Port Adelaide: 4 goals
Round 11 v St Kilda: 6 goals
Round 12 v West Coast: 10 goals
Round 13 v Brisbane: 3 goals
Round 14 v Sydney: 5 goals
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/97572/default.aspx
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might have to get my old #8 jumper out ;D l'm starting to like Rewoldt :lol
Pathetic. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon you can get out and push.
Popelord keep it up & your world will come crushing down on you
stop being a effwit ok, l'm tired of you effing poofta
"Popelord keep it up & your world will come crushing down on you" What are you 5 years old? Lol.
Mate you've bashed Riewoldt from pillar to post all year, you don't get to enjoy his success. Go and support one of the other 7 clubs you buy membership for. Your a junk bandwagon supporter.
been a member of Richmond probably longer than you been born ;D
l said, if you can read properly, We needed a Forward / Ruckman which is why l prefered Butcher, who last time l spoke to him had a back injury. He was drafted into the AFL so tell me whats bad about him.
Comparing Butcher & Martin as who is better than who :rollin shows you know knowing about football cause they play 2 totally different roles hahaha so you cant compare them.
Did you mention Martin in any of your posts mid year 2009 if you know his such a great footballer we should draft him ;D l dont think so :rollin You are a forum troll who scrounges through peoples posts on all sites just to get on the board. You are a paper team dreamer like Bentleigh.
At least l can afford to buy those memberships haha, are you jealous. l support football in a wide range. But l'm a very loyal Richmond supporter. if you want to tell me any different then we must meet & you can say it to my face ok.
Now Listen l will remind you of something ;D You said your never going back to watch another game after you & your mates supposed went to Adelaide. :lol To be a good liar your must have a good memory ;D Maybe you never remember what you say cause you are a porky teller & a bit too much at that. Now who is on the bandwagon ;D You were bagging Richmond just like all of us at that stage but what l say about them is exactly what is happening at that moment.
When Rewoldt puts a few years together of kicking goals if thats his role. Only then l will call him a very good footballer. Until then his just a sooky Rewoldt being fed who has a few tricks ;D
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1 other thing Popelord, you were laughing at me about Tuck. Very good footballer is Tuck. Very consistant & when his playing well so is Richmond. Remember l said that ;D
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You wanted to draft butcher ahead of Martin and this makes me "paper dream pusher" ?
You are a strange one.
JR8
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Riewoldts long on truth
The Age
July 6, 2010
WE WILL let the careers of Nick and Jack Riewoldt come to an end before casting judgment on who is the better player, but Jack has cleared up confusion about which of the famous footballing cousins is the taller.
According to the AFL Record, Jack is 195 centimetres and Nick is 193, even though the Saint appears taller.
On Channel Seven's Sunday Football, Matthew Richardson quizzed Jack on the numbers. ''I might have told a bit of a fib in the AFL Record,'' Jack said. ''I might have added a couple of kilos and maybe one centimetre. I'm 194 centimetres and 93 kilos.''
Fudging the numbers could be a family trait. ''I reckon he [Nick] might be playing down how tall he is,'' Jack said. ''I think he's pretty similar as well. He's a bit bigger than me, but in height we're on par.''
Let's hope someone gets out the tape measure if Jack's younger brother Charlie Riewoldt makes the league.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/watson-joins-long-list-of-footy-fashion-faux-pas-20100705-zxkw.html
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Riewoldts long on truth
The Age
July 6, 2010
WE WILL let the careers of Nick and Jack Riewoldt come to an end before casting judgment on who is the better player, but Jack has cleared up confusion about which of the famous footballing cousins is the taller.
According to the AFL Record, Jack is 195 centimetres and Nick is 193, even though the Saint appears taller.
On Channel Seven's Sunday Football, Matthew Richardson quizzed Jack on the numbers. ''I might have told a bit of a fib in the AFL Record,'' Jack said. ''I might have added a couple of kilos and maybe one centimetre. I'm 194 centimetres and 93 kilos.''
Fudging the numbers could be a family trait. ''I reckon he [Nick] might be playing down how tall he is,'' Jack said. ''I think he's pretty similar as well. He's a bit bigger than me, but in height we're on par.''
Let's hope someone gets out the tape measure if Jack's younger brother Charlie Riewoldt makes the league.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/watson-joins-long-list-of-footy-fashion-faux-pas-20100705-zxkw.html
Why do we have to compare who is a better player? I couldnt care if Nick is 10 times better as long Jack helps us win on a consistent basis!
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When I saw them standing together I thought Jack was a cm or 2 taller, coulda been his hair..lol
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You wanted to draft butcher ahead of Martin and this makes me "paper dream pusher" ?
You are a strange one.
JR8
centre road paperboy
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When I saw them standing together I thought Jack was a cm or 2 taller, coulda been his hair..lol
depends if the cameraman is a dwarf ;D
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Monk I'll keep it simple.
Martin was a star junior and I was 100% in support to draft him, as was probably 90% of the forum. I don't need to find evidence it's all the way through the threads on countless occasions. Butcher was injured and had a terrible kicking style. His 1 goal and 8 behinds in his GF simple confirmed he wasn't a top 3 pick. There is nothing wrong with him getting drafted but I'm glad you weren't in charge of the recruiting department because if we had an injured Butcher with kicking problems on our list instead of Martin, the place could have self destructed by now.
Thats great for you that you can afford multiple membership across multiple clubs. A perfect example of someone having more money than sense.
Have no memory of you going on about Tuck, in fact I think everyone was supporting Tuck to comeback. If you have got one right out of 100 then congrats. You wont find me saying anything bad about Tuck. I don't bash our players like you do.
On a personal level I don't need to convince myself I'm better than someone on a forum lol, you validate it for me every time you post and embarrass yourself. Keep the insults coming old man.
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Monk I'll keep it simple.
Martin was a star junior and I was 100% in support to draft him, as was probably 90% of the forum. I don't need to find evidence it's all the way through the threads on countless occasions. Butcher was injured and had a terrible kicking style. His 1 goal and 8 behinds in his GF simple confirmed he wasn't a top 3 pick. There is nothing wrong with him getting drafted but I'm glad you weren't in charge of the recruiting department because if we had an injured Butcher with kicking problems on our list instead of Martin, the place could have self destructed by now.
Thats great for you that you can afford multiple membership across multiple clubs. A perfect example of someone having more money than sense.
Have no memory of you going on about Tuck, in fact I think everyone was supporting Tuck to comeback. If you have got one right out of 100 then congrats. You wont find me saying anything bad about Tuck. I don't bash our players like you do.
On a personal level I don't need to convince myself I'm better than someone on a forum lol, you validate it for me every time you post and embarrass yourself. Keep the insults coming old man.
A simple reply from a forum troll :rollin
Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats :rollin Mr Football
Now Martin was the perfect choice when getting talent & is one of the better 1st year drafts l seen at top level & good on the lad l never disputed his talent. My prefered choice of draft was a taller player player to possibly fill 1 of 3 positions ;D
But you mouth never mentioned Martin till the media mentioned him cause you aint got a clue & you already proved that cause you always avoid my points :rollin
l answered all your points ;D but you who say your connected with Eastern Ranges ah ah rubbish :rollin l enjoy your posts Popelord.
becareful Popelord cause ;D l never show all my cards up front & have some surprised up my sleeve for you ;D
did you enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
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Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
That doesn't explain the rest of his games with terrible conversion rates, nor does it explain the terrible ball drop and kicking action.
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Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
That doesn't explain the rest of his games with terrible conversion rates, nor does it explain the terrible ball drop and kicking action.
Infamy show me where your getting your facts from that prove what you just said
dont just give me one game where every footballer has a bad day
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Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
That doesn't explain the rest of his games with terrible conversion rates, nor does it explain the terrible ball drop and kicking action.
Infamy show me where your getting your facts from that prove what you just said
dont just give me one game where every footballer has a bad day
How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
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Need a couple of more slides in your avatar wayne for Jack's latest two grabs ;)
Done ;)
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Monk I'll keep it simple.
Martin was a star junior and I was 100% in support to draft him, as was probably 90% of the forum. I don't need to find evidence it's all the way through the threads on countless occasions. Butcher was injured and had a terrible kicking style. His 1 goal and 8 behinds in his GF simple confirmed he wasn't a top 3 pick. There is nothing wrong with him getting drafted but I'm glad you weren't in charge of the recruiting department because if we had an injured Butcher with kicking problems on our list instead of Martin, the place could have self destructed by now.
Thats great for you that you can afford multiple membership across multiple clubs. A perfect example of someone having more money than sense.
Have no memory of you going on about Tuck, in fact I think everyone was supporting Tuck to comeback. If you have got one right out of 100 then congrats. You wont find me saying anything bad about Tuck. I don't bash our players like you do.
On a personal level I don't need to convince myself I'm better than someone on a forum lol, you validate it for me every time you post and embarrass yourself. Keep the insults coming old man.
A simple reply from a forum troll :rollin
Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats :rollin Mr Football
Now Martin was the perfect choice when getting talent & is one of the better 1st year drafts l seen at top level & good on the lad l never disputed his talent. My prefered choice of draft was a taller player player to possibly fill 1 of 3 positions ;D
But you mouth never mentioned Martin till the media mentioned him cause you aint got a clue & you already proved that cause you always avoid my points :rollin
l answered all your points ;D but you who say your connected with Eastern Ranges ah ah rubbish :rollin l enjoy your posts Popelord.
becareful Popelord cause ;D l never show all my cards up front & have some surprised up my sleeve for you ;D
did you enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
I can hardly read your post with all your circus drawings.
Martin was easily number 1 choice. Recruiting you always go best available you don't waste a pick 3 pick on the best tall when his currency is at best a last first rounder.
Ive never bagged Butcher., he'll be a fine player but he was never a top 3-4 pick. He kicked 1 goal 8 behinds and 2 out on the full. Can't have been that bad to have a key posistion player have 11 shots on goal. ::) When you draft forwards the most important KPI is goal accuracy. You can get as much of the ball as you want but if they can't kick then you have question marks.
How many times you want to contradict yourself..
You say Butcher was injured and should be excused for his performance. He's still injured, yet you are in and under in the arguments to bag Griffiths when he went down at Coburg and how we shouldn't have drafted an injured player.. I remember this argument.
You say we shouldn't analyse his ability on one performance. Well that's exactly what drafting is all about. Picking the talent from as much info as possible. There are only so many performances do be judged on at 17 years old. Yet you'll happily criticise Riewoldt our KPP at 20 years old on his one off bad performances and run his name through the mud.
Pick an argument Monk.
You don't even make sense talking about Eastern Ranges and I'm not interested in what you hide up your sleeves....
Adelaide trip was good mate, went to "The Palace" I'm sure you've been there a few times.
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
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Monk I'll keep it simple.
Martin was a star junior and I was 100% in support to draft him, as was probably 90% of the forum. I don't need to find evidence it's all the way through the threads on countless occasions. Butcher was injured and had a terrible kicking style. His 1 goal and 8 behinds in his GF simple confirmed he wasn't a top 3 pick. There is nothing wrong with him getting drafted but I'm glad you weren't in charge of the recruiting department because if we had an injured Butcher with kicking problems on our list instead of Martin, the place could have self destructed by now.
Thats great for you that you can afford multiple membership across multiple clubs. A perfect example of someone having more money than sense.
Have no memory of you going on about Tuck, in fact I think everyone was supporting Tuck to comeback. If you have got one right out of 100 then congrats. You wont find me saying anything bad about Tuck. I don't bash our players like you do.
On a personal level I don't need to convince myself I'm better than someone on a forum lol, you validate it for me every time you post and embarrass yourself. Keep the insults coming old man.
A simple reply from a forum troll :rollin
Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats :rollin Mr Football
Now Martin was the perfect choice when getting talent & is one of the better 1st year drafts l seen at top level & good on the lad l never disputed his talent. My prefered choice of draft was a taller player player to possibly fill 1 of 3 positions ;D
But you mouth never mentioned Martin till the media mentioned him cause you aint got a clue & you already proved that cause you always avoid my points :rollin
l answered all your points ;D but you who say your connected with Eastern Ranges ah ah rubbish :rollin l enjoy your posts Popelord.
becareful Popelord cause ;D l never show all my cards up front & have some surprised up my sleeve for you ;D
did you enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
Popelord l cant read what you just wrote cause it all dribble
l have inserted in color maybe you can understand if l point a few things out for you. You talk about Butchers grand final like you were at the ground watching. You have no idea how bad the conditions were that day in 100 kph winds.
I can hardly read your post with all your circus drawings. You are a circus poster so l thought it would help if people are laughing at you
Martin was easily number 1 choice. Recruiting you always go best available you don't waste a pick 3 pick on the best tall when his currency is at best a last first rounder.
Ive never bagged Butcher., he'll be a fine player but he was never a top 3-4 pick. He kicked 1 goal 8 behinds and 2 out on the full. Can't have been that bad to have a key posistion player have 11 shots on goal. ::) When you draft forwards the most important KPI is goal accuracy. You can get as much of the ball as you want but if they can't kick then you have question marks.
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats in those conditions who were undefeated during the year
How many times you want to contradict yourself..
where have l contradicted myself, l answered all your points but you & a few others seem to jump the main ones l point out.
You say Butcher was injured and should be excused for his performance. He's still injured, yet you are in and under in the arguments to bag Griffiths when he went down at Coburg and how we shouldn't have drafted an injured player.. I remember this argument.
yep high risk Griffiths had bad shoulders & everyone was talking about the risk he would be. oh since his been drafted his reinjured his shoulder. Been fixed & going again, for how long l hope for 10 years l like him. Glad his in the senior side & going well cause it was a huge risk & still maybe a huge risk, what if he breaks that shoulder this weekend what you going to say to me next week. so what l was talking about happened so whats your argument puppert
l know all about Butcher, his played all his life in our local. l speak to his father weekly. He was rated highly during the year, so he went down a few places in the draft order but he was still taken. Now he has to prove himself & he might not even make it at that level cause he dont even know that himself yet. If he dont then l'm wrong about him
You say we shouldn't analyse his ability on one performance. Well that's exactly what drafting is all about. Maybe on your planet it is, but not mine. That is so stupid what you have said Picking the talent from as much info as possible. There are only so many performances do be judged on at 17 years old. Yet you'll happily criticise Riewoldt our KPP at 20 years old on his one off bad performances and run his name through the mud.
Wrong most watched player are contacted when around 14 years of age & play in carnivals & other squads so again your a fish out of water. Popelord give up & stop making a idiot out of yourself on things you dont know about
About Rewoldt his been at the club for a few years now & he was in a mess before Hardwick got there haha l judged him off many performaces thats why he was being dropped cause he was weak & confused
His ambition so he has told many is that he would like oneday to play along side his cousin Nick haha eat that
Pick an argument Monk. just did
You don't even make sense talking about Eastern Ranges and I'm not interested in what you hide up your sleeves....
as l said to be a good liar you must have a good memory what you tell people
Adelaide trip was good mate, went to "The Palace" I'm sure you've been there a few times.
l dont go to gay bars so never been there but l'm sure you will tell us all about your good times there. Oh yes l hate Homo's for your info. hate anyone to think l like gay people
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Don't know if you can say Riewoldt was in a horrendous state, there is such a thing as a developing stage.
Hardly any young draftees are ready to go like Martin was and even less so KP players.
The thing about Riewoldt was that when he went back down to Coburg he was always kicking bags.
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Um.... urgh.... I think we should trade Jack Riewoldt........
...... He doesn't do enough.
He was part of the 2006 draft that yeilded Collins, Conners, Edwards and King.
Who was in charge of recruiting that year?
:thumbsup
lol miller didnt think riewoldt would last to pick 8 so down traded it to pick 13 and gave up pick 42 for that champion polak sheesh. they effectively gave up any chance of getting riewoldt by trading out of a top 10 pick. just goes to show how inept those in charge were. its ironic miller and jackson survived on luck and got lucky with jack slipping.
many of us had him top 10 some as low as pick 5. in fact miller rated him but effectively threw away any chance of getting him in his mind. and why to get an underperforming glass half full in polak.
the rfc and its supporters can thank its lucky stars on lady luck because jack sure as hell didnt arrive due to good management.
Same BS and absolute codswallop on two boards now. Jackson and Miller had ample evidence that Jack would slip to 13. They laid it out in full at the 2006 pre-draft night. Give up with your tired ignorant rants.
and here i am thinking of the talls they really wanted thorpe but were sure he would not make it to 8. they gave up on him, as well.
mate it was common knowledge and i can tell you among my group riewoldt was rated higher than mitch to get either we were all certain we needed at least pick 8. the other one i liked was sellar a lot had him slipping in my group and proved correct.
the one i liked a hell of a lot was leuenberger up until kruezer the best young ruckman i had seen.
riewoldt was highly rated by many and down trading to pick 13 was limiting our chances of getting him.
oh and for your info it came from millers mouth that he did not expect jack to be there at 13. he said as much when we drafted him.
weather im right or wrong its not good managment taking the risk dont you think. as i said there were plenty who highly rated jack and we were lucky to get him where we did, you can call that what you like b/s codswallop will do thats your perogative.
anyway miller would not have known much about any of the kids first hand heresay and second hand news and the odd video was how old greg operated at richmond.
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
ah just thought id pull my own chain after all no one else is going to give out credit to us nay sayers.
still i wonder what people look at in players at times.
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Coleman Medal betting (...luxbet.com...)
Riewoldt, Jack (Richmond) 2.00
Hall, Barry (Western Bulldogs) 3.00
Fevola, Brendan (Brisbane) 7.50
Pavlich, Matthew (Fremantle) 12
Franklin, Lance (Hawthorn) 15
Podsiadly, James (Geelong) 17
Johnson, Steve (Geelong) 41
Milne, Stephen (St Kilda) 51
Bradshaw, Daniel (Sydney) 101
Brown, Jonathan (Brisbane) 101
Kennedy, Josh (West Coast) 101
LeCras, Mark (West Coast) 101
Roughead, Jarryd (Hawthorn) 101
https://www.luxbet.com/index.php?cPath=3837&event_id=ALL&market_type_id=-&rd=1278419342#go_
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
you put up no evidence your a liar ;D
cause you cant troll want you need to back yourself about his supposed bad kicking. You seen 1 article about him pre-draft that was misleading & incorrect & his kicking in a grand final in winds that nearly knocked players off thier feet & you judged him by that. l think this debate is done & dusted.
:rollin
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Monk I'll keep it simple.
Martin was a star junior and I was 100% in support to draft him, as was probably 90% of the forum. I don't need to find evidence it's all the way through the threads on countless occasions. Butcher was injured and had a terrible kicking style. His 1 goal and 8 behinds in his GF simple confirmed he wasn't a top 3 pick. There is nothing wrong with him getting drafted but I'm glad you weren't in charge of the recruiting department because if we had an injured Butcher with kicking problems on our list instead of Martin, the place could have self destructed by now.
Thats great for you that you can afford multiple membership across multiple clubs. A perfect example of someone having more money than sense.
Have no memory of you going on about Tuck, in fact I think everyone was supporting Tuck to comeback. If you have got one right out of 100 then congrats. You wont find me saying anything bad about Tuck. I don't bash our players like you do.
On a personal level I don't need to convince myself I'm better than someone on a forum lol, you validate it for me every time you post and embarrass yourself. Keep the insults coming old man.
A simple reply from a forum troll :rollin
Let me tell you FACT about Butcher's Grand Final game. firstly l was there & witnessed it, The ground was belted with winds so bad that every player on the ground had problems that day so that just beat up your little football knowledge & bagging of Butcher. :rollin just getting the ball for a big player as much as he did that day was a excellent effort. On a good day that would have been 9 goals cause he was on fire. He also had a back injury playing that day :lol
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats :rollin Mr Football
Now Martin was the perfect choice when getting talent & is one of the better 1st year drafts l seen at top level & good on the lad l never disputed his talent. My prefered choice of draft was a taller player player to possibly fill 1 of 3 positions ;D
But you mouth never mentioned Martin till the media mentioned him cause you aint got a clue & you already proved that cause you always avoid my points :rollin
l answered all your points ;D but you who say your connected with Eastern Ranges ah ah rubbish :rollin l enjoy your posts Popelord.
becareful Popelord cause ;D l never show all my cards up front & have some surprised up my sleeve for you ;D
did you enjoy your Adelaide trip with ya mates
Popelord l cant read what you just wrote cause it all dribble
l have inserted in color maybe you can understand if l point a few things out for you. You talk about Butchers grand final like you were at the ground watching. You have no idea how bad the conditions were that day in 100 kph winds.
I can hardly read your post with all your circus drawings. You are a circus poster so l thought it would help if people are laughing at you
Martin was easily number 1 choice. Recruiting you always go best available you don't waste a pick 3 pick on the best tall when his currency is at best a last first rounder.
Ive never bagged Butcher., he'll be a fine player but he was never a top 3-4 pick. He kicked 1 goal 8 behinds and 2 out on the full. Can't have been that bad to have a key posistion player have 11 shots on goal. ::) When you draft forwards the most important KPI is goal accuracy. You can get as much of the ball as you want but if they can't kick then you have question marks.
every ground in the Gippsland that day was belted with gale force winds :rollin & your bagging a player for 1G 8B :rollin
premiership favorites had shock defeats in those conditions who were undefeated during the year
How many times you want to contradict yourself..
where have l contradicted myself, l answered all your points but you & a few others seem to jump the main ones l point out.
You say Butcher was injured and should be excused for his performance. He's still injured, yet you are in and under in the arguments to bag Griffiths when he went down at Coburg and how we shouldn't have drafted an injured player.. I remember this argument.
yep high risk Griffiths had bad shoulders & everyone was talking about the risk he would be. oh since his been drafted his reinjured his shoulder. Been fixed & going again, for how long l hope for 10 years l like him. Glad his in the senior side & going well cause it was a huge risk & still maybe a huge risk, what if he breaks that shoulder this weekend what you going to say to me next week. so what l was talking about happened so whats your argument puppert
l know all about Butcher, his played all his life in our local. l speak to his father weekly. He was rated highly during the year, so he went down a few places in the draft order but he was still taken. Now he has to prove himself & he might not even make it at that level cause he dont even know that himself yet. If he dont then l'm wrong about him
You say we shouldn't analyse his ability on one performance. Well that's exactly what drafting is all about. Maybe on your planet it is, but not mine. That is so stupid what you have said Picking the talent from as much info as possible. There are only so many performances do be judged on at 17 years old. Yet you'll happily criticise Riewoldt our KPP at 20 years old on his one off bad performances and run his name through the mud.
Wrong most watched player are contacted when around 14 years of age & play in carnivals & other squads so again your a fish out of water. Popelord give up & stop making a idiot out of yourself on things you dont know about
About Rewoldt his been at the club for a few years now & he was in a mess before Hardwick got there haha l judged him off many performaces thats why he was being dropped cause he was weak & confused
His ambition so he has told many is that he would like oneday to play along side his cousin Nick haha eat that
Pick an argument Monk. just did
You don't even make sense talking about Eastern Ranges and I'm not interested in what you hide up your sleeves....
as l said to be a good liar you must have a good memory what you tell people
Adelaide trip was good mate, went to "The Palace" I'm sure you've been there a few times.
l dont go to gay bars so never been there but l'm sure you will tell us all about your good times there. Oh yes l hate Homo's for your info. hate anyone to think l like gay people
This is getting stupid.
Plain and simple Martin was a better choice than Butcher. I don't care about Butcher and what he does cause I know it wont be anything as good as what Martin will do. Thats what this is all about who we should have picked. You cried till the cows came home about how we should get Butcher, your home boy hero. Well put the emotion beside Martin unequivocally miles better than Butcher.
Drafting, with contact at age 14. Thats extremely naive. Horribly Naive. I wasn't great mates but good enough mates with Travis Cloke through High School to know of the goings on with him and his junior footy having played local footy with him for about 6 years with him starring in our league best and fairest every year for Park Orchards. It was around his 17th birthday he was contacted first by an AFL club, I remember the day he came to school the morning and told us all. This was a gun junior player in question and first contact was 17. 14 years old you reckon that's embarrassing.. No club has the funds to research players 4 years away from the system at a personal level. Ludicrous.
Drafting is all about "drafting" from the resources you have been given. A Grand Final with the spot light on pressure situation. Butcher couldn't handle it whether it was the conditions that didn't help, so what. Thats football. Gave reasonable doubt for clubs to not chose a risk in the top 6. And fair enough. I couldn't care less how he turns out all the best to him. We 100% made the right choice with Martin. Just concede you were wrong and stop embarrassing yourself.
Contradicting means when you say something one day and then the next you say another that is the complete opposite of original statement.
1. You say Griffiths was a huge risk at 19 and it can bite us on the ass, could never get his shoulder right etc. etc etc.
2. You defend Butcher by saying he was playing injured in the GF and he's injured now give him a break.
Well sort it out? Which one do u stand by?
As for your stupid "gay" comments that's just slop and not worthy of a response.
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
you put up no evidence your a liar ;D
Ummm, neither have you
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This is getting stupid.
Drafting, with contact at age 14. Thats extremely naive. Horribly Naive. I wasn't great mates but good enough mates with Travis Cloke through High School to know of the goings on with him and his junior footy having played local footy with him for about 6 years with him starring in our league best and fairest every year for Park Orchards. It was around his 17th birthday he was contacted first by an AFL club, I remember the day he came to school the morning and told us all. This was a gun junior player in question and first contact was 17. 14 years old you reckon that's embarrassing.. No club has the funds to research players 4 years away from the system at a personal level. Ludicrous.
You just keep making stupid comments about things you know nothing about
You dont know anything thing about the system do you. TAC clubs start kids off at 14 years old at U15 level so you just made a complete idiot of yourself. They have picked out players to play at senior level at thier clubs then push them through carnivals & very hard training programs & camps.
A club is already showing interest in my lad & this is the 2nd year they watched him so no more from you please.
l'm finished with you cause your a total idiot
& you send me a PM last year telling me you were involved with Eastern Ranges :rollin
/ignore Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel :rollin
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I'm still amazed Tigermonk worked out how to write in yellow text.
Thought he would have used a highlighter on his screen
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
you put up no evidence your a liar ;D
Ummm, neither have you
Infamous STFU your a nuffer like Jackstar calls you.
You came into a debate with nothing & your asking people to tell you want you cant google haha ;D &
go take your leased Merc for a drive off a cliff ;D
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
you put up no evidence your a liar ;D
Ummm, neither have you
Infamous STFU your a nuffer like Jackstar calls you.
You came into a debate with nothing & your asking people to tell you want you cant google haha ;D &
go take your leased Merc for a drive off a cliff ;D
What's the point? I'd survive :D
If you want stats, he kicked 20 goals 19 in the U18 championships, plus 35 goals 32 in the TAC cup in 2008. There is also this quote from the start of an article from when he was drafted.
ENROLMENTS for the 2009-2010 Mark Williams' kicking school have opened and new Port Adelaide recruit, John Butcher, is top of the premiership coach’s hit list.
Butcher, 18, was touted as a potential No.1 draft pick last year, but concerns over his goalkicking saw him slip through to the Power’s first selection at No.8.
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Well, the last few pages of this thread have been quite interesting to read. :rollin
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Well, the last few pages of this thread have been quite interesting to read. :rollin
That's sarcasm, right?
:lol
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This is getting stupid.
Drafting, with contact at age 14. Thats extremely naive. Horribly Naive. I wasn't great mates but good enough mates with Travis Cloke through High School to know of the goings on with him and his junior footy having played local footy with him for about 6 years with him starring in our league best and fairest every year for Park Orchards. It was around his 17th birthday he was contacted first by an AFL club, I remember the day he came to school the morning and told us all. This was a gun junior player in question and first contact was 17. 14 years old you reckon that's embarrassing.. No club has the funds to research players 4 years away from the system at a personal level. Ludicrous.
You just keep making stupid comments about things you know nothing about
You dont know anything thing about the system do you. TAC clubs start kids off at 14 years old at U15 level so you just made a complete idiot of yourself. They have picked out players to play at senior level at thier clubs then push them through carnivals & very hard training programs & camps.
A club is already showing interest in my lad & this is the 2nd year they watched him so no more from you please.
l'm finished with you cause your a total idiot
& you send me a PM last year telling me you were involved with Eastern Ranges :rollin
/ignore Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel :rollin
Your a fool and you keep on embarrassing yourself.
Stop putting up common knowledge as if its ground breaking. Yes TAC clubs have Under 15 level, they don't get contact from AFL clubs until they are at least 17, which is what we were talking about. Stop changing the discussion and beating around what you argued about 2 posts ago cause your wrong.
Again you've changed the discussion again you said clubs make contact with players as young as 14. Thats absolute slop. They may have scouts watching Under 15 carnivals but they don't make direct contact. Clubs put resources into U17 and U18 level not U15's. Anything can happen in 3 years thus wasting resources. There may be the one of case that clubs make contact if the player is directly linked with a club through family or membership but its very unlikely.
Stop changing the discussion and preaching you know everything when its a complete new topic.
Stick to the discussion of Martin being better than Butcher. You were wrong. And the idea to trade Riewoldt is plain embarrassing.
The reason why your ranting is cause you've embarrassed yourself that you think Butcher was the right draft pick for pick 3. Wrong.
Another is you've driving Riewoldts name through the mud for the first qtr of the season and you know look like an even bigger idiot.
I played for Eastern Ranges TM. With the likes of Travis Cloke, Matty Bate and Chris Knights. I help out with training when ever I'm asked to come down as I used to be a personal trainer and studying to be a physio. There you go, I think I know a little bit about how the TAC works than you do. End of argument
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How about you prove me wrong. He slipped down the draft order for a very good reason.
just what l already knew, you cant because your another forum troll
I'm certainly not trolling no matter what you think. Not sure why I'm the one who has to go searching through match stats to prove you wrong, I think the fact Butcher slipped to Port is enough of a sign to show you that clubs had concerns on him when he was so dominant in other areas.
The problem is that match reviews don't show the behinds players kick, however from following the U18s throughout the year it was well known that Butcher butchered the ball.
I'm sure that won't stop you talking poo though and just ignoring the obvious evidence staring you in the face
you put up no evidence your a liar ;D
Ummm, neither have you
Infamous STFU your a nuffer like Jackstar calls you.
You came into a debate with nothing & your asking people to tell you want you cant google haha ;D &
go take your leased Merc for a drive off a cliff ;D
What's the point? I'd survive :D
If you want stats, he kicked 20 goals 19 in the U18 championships, plus 35 goals 32 in the TAC cup in 2008. There is also this quote from the start of an article from when he was drafted.
ENROLMENTS for the 2009-2010 Mark Williams' kicking school have opened and new Port Adelaide recruit, John Butcher, is top of the premiership coach’s hit list.
Butcher, 18, was touted as a potential No.1 draft pick last year, but concerns over his goalkicking saw him slip through to the Power’s first selection at No.8.
Panos scored mroe goals than Butcher in the championships and he could only be rookie drafted. Says alot about Butcher.
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This is getting stupid.
Drafting, with contact at age 14. Thats extremely naive. Horribly Naive. I wasn't great mates but good enough mates with Travis Cloke through High School to know of the goings on with him and his junior footy having played local footy with him for about 6 years with him starring in our league best and fairest every year for Park Orchards. It was around his 17th birthday he was contacted first by an AFL club, I remember the day he came to school the morning and told us all. This was a gun junior player in question and first contact was 17. 14 years old you reckon that's embarrassing.. No club has the funds to research players 4 years away from the system at a personal level. Ludicrous.
You just keep making stupid comments about things you know nothing about
You dont know anything thing about the system do you. TAC clubs start kids off at 14 years old at U15 level so you just made a complete idiot of yourself. They have picked out players to play at senior level at thier clubs then push them through carnivals & very hard training programs & camps.
A club is already showing interest in my lad & this is the 2nd year they watched him so no more from you please.
l'm finished with you cause your a total idiot
& you send me a PM last year telling me you were involved with Eastern Ranges :rollin
/ignore Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel :rollin
Your a fool and you keep on embarrassing yourself.
Stop putting up common knowledge as if its ground breaking. Yes TAC clubs have Under 15 level, they don't get contact from AFL clubs until they are at least 17, which is what we were talking about. Stop changing the discussion and beating around what you argued about 2 posts ago cause your wrong.
Again you've changed the discussion again you said clubs make contact with players as young as 14. Thats absolute slop. They may have scouts watching Under 15 carnivals but they don't make direct contact. Clubs put resources into U17 and U18 level not U15's. Anything can happen in 3 years thus wasting resources. There may be the one of case that clubs make contact if the player is directly linked with a club through family or membership but its very unlikely.
Stop changing the discussion and preaching you know everything when its a complete new topic.
Stick to the discussion of Martin being better than Butcher. You were wrong. And the idea to trade Riewoldt is plain embarrassing.
The reason why your ranting is cause you've embarrassed yourself that you think Butcher was the right draft pick for pick 3. Wrong.
Another is you've driving Riewoldts name through the mud for the first qtr of the season and you know look like an even bigger idiot.
I played for Eastern Ranges TM. With the likes of Travis Cloke, Matty Bate and Chris Knights. I help out with training when ever I'm asked to come down as I used to be a personal trainer and studying to be a physio. There you go, I think I know a little bit about how the TAC works than you do. End of argument
:rollin :rollin its getting better
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Defence best attack for Tiger Jack
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Wed 07 July, 2010
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt is busy proving the old theory that a good offence is based around a good defence.
The first player to reach 50 goals this season - he leads the race for the Coleman Medal with 53 - Riewoldt has also been one of the hardest-working forwards this year when he hasn't got the ball in his hands.
Riewoldt has 52 tackles to his name this year after 14 rounds, while last year he had 48 in 20 games.
Richmond's forward coach Danny Daly has been instrumental in Riewoldt's development and believes the young forward still has improvement left.
"I think he's taken on a lot of responsibility, being the key forward down there and still being 21 years of age," Daly toldrichmondfc.com.au. "It's been a massive year for him, both on and off the field - he's had to take up more of a leadership role with our young forward line.
"He is No.1 in the AFL for tackles inside-50, he's taken the most contested marks, and all his defensive stuff has been rewarded with his offensive stuff and his goals.
"But Jack's still got a long way to go, and we keep riding him from week-to-week to make sure that he keeps at that level and keeps improving himself."
Far from resenting having ideas pushed at him about how to improve, Daly said Riewoldt was always approaching the coaching group looking for ways he could.
"He's really keen for feedback, he takes everything on board, and as I said, he's really trying to grow as a leader and be the best he can," Daly said.
Senior coach Damien Hardwick said he was rapt with Riewoldt's development, but pointed out that his supply had improved dramatically.
"He is a kid who has enormous belief in his ability - he's a kid who Richmond picked up in the first round, and people are starting to see he has become a very good player for this footy club," Hardwick said.
“He has been in terrific form - the pleasing thing is our guys are starting to deliver the ball inside 50 a hell of a lot better.
"Credit to those guys up the ground kicking it to a favoured side and letting Jack use his body, which he does very well.
“He is a guy we will build around but we certainly need some other key forwards to stand up as well.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/97689/default.aspx
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Panos scored mroe goals than Butcher in the championships and he could only be rookie drafted. Says alot about Butcher.
WTF you say l jump things. ::) where did that come from now you wanna compare Butcher to Panos ::)
what type of medication are you on Popelord, Butcher was still taken 5 places up from Martin
He was Rated #1 drafted pick prior to the draft by most in football as a KPP, dont mean he will be #1 pick in the draft. Just like Scully over Trengrove
Yep says alot for Butcher that he is 18 & reguardless of his supposed bad kicking & style he went at
#8. John Butcher (Port Adelaide)
Gippsland Power
Key forward, 18, 197cm, 84kg
Outstanding contested mark with excellent agility, pace and endurance for his size. Seen as Warren Tredrea's long-term replacement. Poor under-18 carnival saw him slip from top three.
yep had a bad carnival, so he knuckled down & the next game he went out & was excellent, kicked 5 goals ;D & was close to BOG if not BOG by many in a smashing display :lol maybe he had some niggles during the carnival no-one cares he got drafted just like all the lads ever what. So some miss out no big deal. your still a water boy haha
Tell me all about TAC cause l want to learn from you ;D
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You dont listen.
Panos has a better carnival. Butcher was hopeless.
So he didn't go number 1, he didn't go number 3 he went at pick 8.
Read posts, its the fact you wanted Martin at Richmond which is stupid cause we would have missed out on Martin. Butcher is half the player Martin and will be.
Butcher is not a number 3 pick.
Only a flog would think otherwise
I'm not explaining this again. Go away.
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You dont listen.
Panos has a better carnival. Butcher was hopeless.
So he didn't go number 1, he didn't go number 3 he went at pick 8.
Read posts, its the fact you wanted Martin at Richmond which is stupid cause we would have missed out on Martin. Butcher is half the player Martin and will be.
Butcher is not a number 3 pick.
Only a flog would think otherwise
I'm not explaining this again. Go away.
So what Panos is a rookie & Butcher is a listed player END OF STORY
What you going to tell me next water boy that players are drafted by a carnival performance. Thats not the reason Butchers draft position went up.
Now your back on Martin. gee your are twisted. Martin is a midfielder & Butcher a KPP 2 different players you cant compare in ability cause they play different roles.
l wanted Butcher cause we have so many midfielders & our forward line was not functional. We got rid of forwards, lucky Rewoldt is firing cause it could be alot worse off
All l wanted the club to get was a KPF / Ruckman who could also cover in defence. See what becomes of Butcher in the future
Now Griffiths l was correct on. RFC drafted him at a risk. He went down injured like everyone expected. He had to be repaired & is still brittle. He is playing again until he cops another heavy knock.
l wish him all the best, nothing worse than seeing wasted talent & l hope he becomes a champion cause he looks good. If he succeeds it will be a win for him & Richmond, not us. END OF STORY
& like most young blokes who know everything, you know more than me about TAC l dont think so puppy. l been involved in TAC since you were at High school. the rest you can put together yourself.
we should get together to finish this cause there are some things l just cant say & show on a open forum because l'm restricted
END OF DEBATE
Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel
oh l'm just waiting to see your team photo in person with Cloke at Easten
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He was Rated #1 drafted pick prior to the draft by most in football as a KPP, dont mean he will be #1 pick in the draft. Just like Scully over Trengrove
Yep says alot for Butcher that he is 18 & reguardless of his supposed bad kicking & style he went at
He was rated as the most likely #1 coming into 2009, however he dropped down the order pretty consistently throughout the course of the year. It wasn't just the championships, good disposal is considered a major requirement by all clubs now and there were far too many signs of the bad side of Richo that scared clubs away.
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moron - if we have pick 3 and Martin and butcher are both still options to draft to richmond
then they can be compared.
I wonder how the Carlton draft team in 2007 the night before the draft.
junior recruiter: "hmm both Cotchin and Kruzer are the stand out I reckon. who should we go for?"[/b
]senior : "don't be daft man, gee your are twisted. Cotchin is a midfielder & Kruzer a KPP/ruck, 2 different players you cant compare in ability cause they play different roles, you fool"
You dont listen.
Panos has a better carnival. Butcher was hopeless.
So he didn't go number 1, he didn't go number 3 he went at pick 8.
Read posts, its the fact you wanted Martin at Richmond which is stupid cause we would have missed out on Martin. Butcher is half the player Martin and will be.
Butcher is not a number 3 pick.
Only a flog would think otherwise
I'm not explaining this again. Go away.
So what Panos is a rookie & Butcher is a listed player END OF STORY
What you going to tell me next water boy that players are drafted by a carnival performance. Thats not the reason Butchers draft position went up.
Now your back on Martin. gee your are twisted. Martin is a midfielder & Butcher a KPP 2 different players you cant compare in ability cause they play different roles.
l wanted Butcher cause we have so many midfielders & our forward line was not functional. We got rid of forwards, lucky Rewoldt is firing cause it could be alot worse off
All l wanted the club to get was a KPF / Ruckman who could also cover in defence. See what becomes of Butcher in the future
Now Griffiths l was correct on. RFC drafted him at a risk. He went down injured like everyone expected. He had to be repaired & is still brittle. He is playing again until he cops another heavy knock.
l wish him all the best, nothing worse than seeing wasted talent & l hope he becomes a champion cause he looks good. If he succeeds it will be a win for him & Richmond, not us. END OF STORY
& like most young blokes who know everything, you know more than me about TAC l dont think so puppy. l been involved in TAC since you were at High school. the rest you can put together yourself.
we should get together to finish this cause there are some things l just cant say & show on a open forum because l'm restricted
END OF DEBATE
Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel
oh l'm just waiting to see your team photo in person with Cloke at Easten
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Lol at the Benny griff comment
talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it
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Two days have passed without an insult being hurled in this thread.
Well done Guys :clapping
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Two days have passed without an insult being hurled in this thread.
Well done Guys :clapping
It's still under 48 hours... idiot
;)
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Two days have passed without an insult being hurled in this thread.
Well done Guys :clapping
It's still under 48 hours... idiot
;)
lol, at least I am not an interent nuffer like u ;D
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Two days have passed without an insult being hurled in this thread.
Well done Guys :clapping
Its funny how having a 21 yo SUPERSTAR in our team seems to upset people. ;)
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You dont listen.
Panos has a better carnival. Butcher was hopeless.
So he didn't go number 1, he didn't go number 3 he went at pick 8.
Read posts, its the fact you wanted Martin at Richmond which is stupid cause we would have missed out on Martin. Butcher is half the player Martin and will be.
Butcher is not a number 3 pick.
Only a flog would think otherwise
I'm not explaining this again. Go away.
So what Panos is a rookie & Butcher is a listed player END OF STORY
What you going to tell me next water boy that players are drafted by a carnival performance. Thats not the reason Butchers draft position went up.
Now your back on Martin. gee your are twisted. Martin is a midfielder & Butcher a KPP 2 different players you cant compare in ability cause they play different roles.
l wanted Butcher cause we have so many midfielders & our forward line was not functional. We got rid of forwards, lucky Rewoldt is firing cause it could be alot worse off
All l wanted the club to get was a KPF / Ruckman who could also cover in defence. See what becomes of Butcher in the future
Now Griffiths l was correct on. RFC drafted him at a risk. He went down injured like everyone expected. He had to be repaired & is still brittle. He is playing again until he cops another heavy knock.
l wish him all the best, nothing worse than seeing wasted talent & l hope he becomes a champion cause he looks good. If he succeeds it will be a win for him & Richmond, not us. END OF STORY
& like most young blokes who know everything, you know more than me about TAC l dont think so puppy. l been involved in TAC since you were at High school. the rest you can put together yourself.
we should get together to finish this cause there are some things l just cant say & show on a open forum because l'm restricted
END OF DEBATE
Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel
oh l'm just waiting to see your team photo in person with Cloke at Easten
Yes you have got something right. Panos is a rookie yet he managed to score more goals than Butcher in the Championships, on the same opponents.
Panos is not rated that highly, although unlucky to not get drafted. Yet was able to perform better than the highly rated Bucther. Thus saying alot about Butchers efforts at the Championships. Commons sense doubt to clubs start to creep in, can he play in big games? Does he have the ticker? Then he comes out and shoots 1 goal 8 in his GF. Come on Monk put your mind to work, Butcher wasn't worthy of a number 3 pick.
I can't get my head around you've argued over a week that you'd rather have Butcher than Martin. How embarrassing..
You wanted Butcher a KP Forward/Ruckman and Defender...... Well if you wind the clock back a year our last 1st round pick was just that. Tyronne Vickery. Martin was just perfect for us.
You're wrong and all you wanted was some home grown dud hero at Richmond. Thankfully you weren't the recruiter at Punt Road otherwise we'd be close to finished.
The rest you've spoken about is slop. I wont bite on the TAC Cup stuff any more I'm contempt with my history and current position.
Keep the lame insults going old man, they are so impressive.
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't suffer fools very well, we will not be meeting up.
The defence rests; Verdict: Guilty, sentenced to life.
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i dont get the argument here.
martin or morabito were rated the best two available at picks 3 and 4. butcher was the most highly rated of the kpps in the draft but he did have some queston marks over areas of his game.
imo hes a talent just like many of the others taken in that draft.
to compare martin and butcher at this stage is a nonsense. martin is a medium sized really big bodied ready to go player who most expected to play 12 or more games. dustins motor and the amount of ball he currently gets are the only two criticisms i can find on him but these are things that will improve with time and preseasons.
butcher is a kp a very talented one 197/ but still only 87 kg. like riewoldt it will be slowly as she goes.
butchers true value wont come to the fore for another 3 or 4 yrs we all know talls take much longer so why the comparisons now.
at pick 3 did we take the best credentialled player in the draft of course we did. but who will end up the better players is impossible to predict because of varying development time lines.
from what i can gather if you include the 17yr olds in the next draft it is as strong or stronger than the one that has just gone. and it is supposed to be stronger on talls.
sheesh take a look at the last draft it really is only the talls that have done little and that is to be expected.
look at the top 20 picks butcher talia and griffiths are the only kpps taken. none have done much even griffiths who is getting games has done little but do we really expect much from him or them.
that draft has already unveiled in the top 20 odd scully, trengove, martin, morabito, cunnington, rohan, sheppard, moore, melksham, gysberts, lucas,jetta, tapscott, fyfe, bastinac. all played and all look like they belong all are mids or running players. add the 3 talls and a few skinny mids who will take time to round it out.
the point is and i stand corrected if wrong, but i can find only three talls from the 09 draft who have played afl footy two are richmond players griffiths and astbury the other craig from adelaide. the reason being with us we didnt have much of a choice but to play them. imo they have struggled in general but have shown some signs in particular astbury.
in general i think all supporters expectations on first and second yr players in particular talls really over the top. as i said compare their worth in 4 yrs time not now.
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Is this thread about Jack Riewoldt?
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Is this thread about Jack Riewoldt?
Its just a diversion away from abusing Jack to keep Chucky happy.
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This is getting stupid.
Drafting, with contact at age 14. Thats extremely naive. Horribly Naive. I wasn't great mates but good enough mates with Travis Cloke through High School to know of the goings on with him and his junior footy having played local footy with him for about 6 years with him starring in our league best and fairest every year for Park Orchards. It was around his 17th birthday he was contacted first by an AFL club, I remember the day he came to school the morning and told us all. This was a gun junior player in question and first contact was 17. 14 years old you reckon that's embarrassing.. No club has the funds to research players 4 years away from the system at a personal level. Ludicrous.
You just keep making stupid comments about things you know nothing about
You dont know anything thing about the system do you. TAC clubs start kids off at 14 years old at U15 level so you just made a complete idiot of yourself. They have picked out players to play at senior level at thier clubs then push them through carnivals & very hard training programs & camps.
A club is already showing interest in my lad & this is the 2nd year they watched him so no more from you please.
l'm finished with you cause your a total idiot
& you send me a PM last year telling me you were involved with Eastern Ranges :rollin
/ignore Popelord poo on lips The Preacher of the Richmond Gospel :rollin
Your a fool and you keep on embarrassing yourself.
Stop putting up common knowledge as if its ground breaking. Yes TAC clubs have Under 15 level, they don't get contact from AFL clubs until they are at least 17, which is what we were talking about. Stop changing the discussion and beating around what you argued about 2 posts ago cause your wrong.
Again you've changed the discussion again you said clubs make contact with players as young as 14. Thats absolute slop. They may have scouts watching Under 15 carnivals but they don't make direct contact. Clubs put resources into U17 and U18 level not U15's. Anything can happen in 3 years thus wasting resources. There may be the one of case that clubs make contact if the player is directly linked with a club through family or membership but its very unlikely.
Stop changing the discussion and preaching you know everything when its a complete new topic.
Stick to the discussion of Martin being better than Butcher. You were wrong. And the idea to trade Riewoldt is plain embarrassing.
The reason why your ranting is cause you've embarrassed yourself that you think Butcher was the right draft pick for pick 3. Wrong.
Another is you've driving Riewoldts name through the mud for the first qtr of the season and you know look like an even bigger idiot.
I played for Eastern Ranges TM. With the likes of Travis Cloke, Matty Bate and Chris Knights. I help out with training when ever I'm asked to come down as I used to be a personal trainer and studying to be a physio. There you go, I think I know a little bit about how the TAC works than you do. End of argument
BAH you know poo about how the TAC works sunshine, I have involved in multiple motorbike accidents and eff me sideways if I haven't had to fill out every type of TAC form known to man. IF anyone knows how the TAC works, its me ! SNAP ! now thats End of ARgument.
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L M A O :rollin
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It says a lot about how in form Jack is when he doesn't dominate a game and the opposition actually didn't do a bad job double/triple teaming and containing him yet he still bobs up and kicks 5 goals :thumbsup.
10 clear at the top of the Coleman and there's word Barry Hall may miss for the Dogs this arvo. It's looking good for Jack to join his numbersake Roachy barring injury.
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I always thought he would come good but I didn't realise he was gonna be this good. Ill take it!
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I always thought he would come good but I didn't realise he was gonna be this good. Ill take it!
Same
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I always thought he would come good but I didn't realise he was gonna be this good. Ill take it!
Same
Me too. He's a gun - you go to the footy to watch him, that grab in the last qtr was sublime.
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Seriously this guy has just exploded out of nowhere, kind of like when you haven't rooted for a month. Just massive
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Anyone else clicking on Riewoldt headlines expecting the story to be about Jack?
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Anyone else clicking on Riewoldt headlines expecting the story to be about Jack?
:lol
I did this morning. I went to realfooty and clicked the link with "Riewoldt" in the heading not even thinking it could be about Nick :wallywink. Nick is now known as the Coleman medal leader's cousin lol.
Barry Hall has kicked 6 and it's only the 3rd quarter. Bloody useless Carlton defence lol.
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Hall finished with 6.
The great thing about Jack compared statistically to other goalkickers:
* His conversion rate is elite in terms of the competition
* His tackling stats are nothing short of amazing given that some of the other goalkickers spend periods on the ball (Franklin, Pavlich etc) and haven't got numbers like his.
* His contested mark numbers are better than anyone
The fact his contested marks are so high suggests there is a lot more output to come when our forward structure is working, where you would expect more chest marks.
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Hall finished with 6.
The great thing about Jack compared statistically to other goalkickers:
* His conversion rate is elite in terms of the competition
* His tackling stats are nothing short of amazing given that some of the other goalkickers spend periods on the ball (Franklin, Pavlich etc) and haven't got numbers like his.
* His contested mark numbers are better than anyone
The fact his contested marks are so high suggests there is a lot more output to come when our forward structure is working, where you would expect more chest marks.
Agree Jack. What makes Jack so dangerous is he is as good a ground level player as he is a contested marker in a pack. He plays tall and small. I'm try to think of another high goalscoring 195cm key forward that's ever played similarly to Jack and it's difficult to think of one.
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I always thought he would come good but I didn't realise he was gonna be this good. Ill take it!
Same
Me too. He's a gun - you go to the footy to watch him, that grab in the last qtr was sublime.
carey , Jono brown, or his cousin would all be content with that effort
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Medal punters jump on Jack Riewoldt
* Jon Ralph and Jackie Epstein
* Herald Sun
* July 12, 2010
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt will this morning become the odds-on favourite to win the Coleman Medal.
Riewoldt's staggering recent goal haul has TAB Sportsbet set to turn him in from last week's $2 quote, with the 21-year-old clear top of the goalkicking table with 58 majors.
He was $501 after Round 8, but his form explosion means he is on track for a 95-goal season.
Riewoldt's seven-match stretch of 43 goals brings back memories of Brian Taylor's 41 goals for the Tigers in seven games in 1984.
Yesterday, Taylor said the Tiger army was officially on the march after Richmond's win against Fremantle gave the Tigers four consecutive victories for the first time since 2005.
"It's incredible. I have been there in a successful period between the late 1970s and early 1980s and it's truly remarkable to wake that big beast up, because it will set the AFL alight," he said.
"It's the next big team we need to fire. We have seen Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood have their opportunities, but to add that extra dimension of angriness, we need to see Richmond supporters going off."
TAB Sportsbet's Gary Davies said Riewoldt continued to shorten as James Podsiadly, Steve Johnson and Matthew Pavlich fell off the pace.
"It's becoming a two-horse race between him and Barry Hall now. The fact they have cleared out means he has come from $2 into odds-on," Davies said.
"It is staggering because as late as Round 8 we had him at 500-1. With their draw coming up, there is nothing to say he won't continue to kick four or five goals a game, and that will win him the Coleman Medal."
Taylor yesterday urged some restraint in judging Riewoldt.
"I hope it's sustainable. I have got a question mark about whether it is because five weeks ago we said he was the No. 2 or 3 forward, and all of a sudden we are thinking he's the next (Michael) 'Disco' Roach," he said. "We shouldn't set our expectations too high."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/medal-punters-jump-on-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frf9jf-1225890462751
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BT on 3aw still won't consider Jack the real deal ::). Said it was only 6 weeks ago that all of them on 3aw agreed Jack was just a 3rd forward and that as he is in the "funnel" opposition sides will clog him up and our scoring will dry up.
Just on the Coleman Medal race, Barry Hall is out for the next 1-2 weeks with an ankle injury.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98069/default.aspx
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BT on 3aw still won't consider Jack the real deal ::). Said it was only 6 weeks ago that all of them on 3aw agreed Jack was just a 3rd forward and that as he is in the "funnel" opposition sides will clog him up and our scoring will dry up.
I was happy when I read that MT - means JR still has a point to prove.
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Just on the Coleman Medal race, Barry Hall is out for the next 1-2 weeks with an ankle injury.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98069/default.aspx
Serves the Bulldogs right for playing him. They absolutely smashed the Blues and didn't need Hall, he was under an injury cloud and now he'll be out as they push for a Top 4 spot.
Go JR8, the Coleman is all yours for the taking.
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Seriously this guy has just exploded out of nowhere, kind of like when you haven't rooted for a month. Just massive
na not true jack had a decent yr last yr and the yr before that hes been building but people didnt want to see it.
hes competed in the air like this before but just got no recognition. he was held to what 2 goals to half time against freo but he created others just by ensuring the ball came to ground. he has done this a fair bit his whole career.
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Seriously this guy has just exploded out of nowhere, kind of like when you haven't rooted for a month. Just massive
na not true jack had a decent yr last yr and the yr before that hes been building but people didnt want to see it.
hes competed in the air like this before but just got no recognition. he was held to what 2 goals to half time against freo but he created others just by ensuring the ball came to ground. he has done this a fair bit his whole career.
Dead right Claw.
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I really hope Jack wins the Coleman. He deserves to
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I really hope Jack wins the Coleman. He deserves to
Has 2 weeks to put a decent gap between himself and Hall. If he kicks say 10 to 12 goals during the next 2 weeks he will win the Coleman.
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Lets just get to the end of the season before we put any tags & medals on him
Gee let the team develope. All this talk labeling certain players champions & winning this & that is silly.
There is alot of developement & team plans so everyone becomes involved kicking goals.
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Lets just get to the end of the season before we put any tags & medals on him
Gee let the team develope. All this talk labeling certain players champions & winning this & that is silly.
There is alot of developement & team plans so everyone becomes involved kicking goals.
Yep.
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Lets just get to the end of the season before we put any tags & medals on him
Gee let the team develope. All this talk labeling certain players champions & winning this & that is silly.
There is alot of developement & team plans so everyone becomes involved kicking goals.
Yes but its good to get excited about success and possibilities while we can too. We've had very little to celebrate or hope for for so long so even though you are 100% right, even the chance that someone from our team will be the best at anything, is worth celebrating! :thumbsup
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Riewoldt an inspiration, says Collins
ROBERT GRANT
July 13, 2010 - 1:14PM
AAP
In Andrew Collins, Richmond finally seem to have uncovered an effective foil for star goalkicker Jack Riewoldt.
While Riewoldt is a shock leader in the Coleman medal race with 58 majors from 15 matches, the Tigers have been struggling to find other productive routes to goal, especially with Mitch Morton languishing in the VFL.
But their recent turnaround in form has coincided with Collins booting 11 goals in the last five rounds - four of which have been Richmond victories.
Crumbers Ben Nason (13) and Robin Nahas (11) are the only other Tigers in double figures.
Collins - who is equally dangerous overhead or once the ball hits the ground - spent two seasons overcoming osteitis pubis before enjoying a breakthrough season as a midfielder in 2009.
This year, the 21-year-old, who admits he has "always enjoyed kicking a goal", has been an integral part of the side's resurgence after being moved forward by new coach Damien Hardwick.
He paid credit to Ben Cousins and Riewoldt on Tuesday.
"(Riewoldt) is playing some great football and he's had a big influence on the blokes around him because he's really straightened us up with someone who's a real focal point to," said Collins.
"You sort of kick it to him and you nearly expect him to mark it these days or you at least know he's going to get it to ground.
"I suppose we're trying to keep a little bit of a lid on it but it's great watching his highlights and the job he's doing for the side at the moment is great."
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/riewoldt-an-inspiration-says-collins-20100713-108qz.html
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The Riewoldt riddle
JAKE NIALL
July 15, 2010
Why football's hottest property slipped to pick 13 in the 2006 draft.
SEVEN key-position players, plus a 203-centimetre ruckman, were preferred to Jack Riewoldt in the 2006 draft and the clubs that bypassed the Coleman Medal favourite had sound reasons for their letting him go through to the Tigers, who grabbed him at what turned out to be a lucky pick number 13.
Riewoldt was then 192.3 centimetres - the shortest of all the key-position prospects picked in the first round of the draft - and he was relatively slow in tests at the mini-decathlon known as the draft camp. His 20-metre time of 3.09 seconds put him in the bottom quarter for measurable pace.
His endurance running was better but certainly not exceptional like Essendon's Scott Gumbleton and North's Lachlan Hansen, who were significantly taller (197.1 and 196.7 respectively) and owned monstrous ''tanks'' for players of their size. They were duly selected at picks two and three. Collingwood pair Ben Reid and Nathan Brown and Melbourne's James Frawley were taller and far quicker over 20 metres. Hawthorn's Mitch Thorp, a fellow Tasmanian (pick 6) who has since been delisted, Lion Matthew Leuenberger (4) and the Bulldogs' Andrejs Everitt (11) were the other talls preferred to the pale, talkative Hobart kid who could really mark.
The clubs that didn't pick him based their assessments on empirical evidence, not a hunch. Riewoldt wasn't very tall compared to the others, and lacked pace. He had a good, but not spectacular leap. Where would he play, given those physical limitations? But Jack's best traits weren't so easily measured.
''We didn't think he was athletic or tall enough to play key position at either end,'' said North's then recruiting manager, now of Western Sydney, Neville Stibbard. The Roos, he added, held a preference for a tall back - a stance shared by the Demons, who liked Frawley's pace. Collingwood was in love with Reid and Brown.
Not overly tall, nor speedy off the mark like his cousin Nick, Jack Riewoldt has become - in a matter of two months - the game's leading goalkicker and possibly its hottest player, having booted 43 goals in the past eight matches, the best eight-game haul since Matthew Lloyd nine years ago. He has grown since 2006, but even Jack acknowledges that his official height of 195 centimetres is exaggerated; most close observers reckon he is closer to 193, six foot four in the old language. Tall enough, if you're good enough.
Riewoldt's ascent has been as stunning as his team's. As recently as last November, the Tigers saw Riewoldt as a player who would need a taller teammate to provide genuine key-position structure in a suspect forward line. This led them to draft a quick 198-centimetre forward, Ben Griffiths. Richmond didn't envisage that Jack would be at this present level.
The riddle of Jack Riewoldt is how this unprepossessing physical specimen has managed to take the competition apart. Not a freak athlete like ''Buddy'' Franklin, a monster with locomotive power like Tony Lockett or an explosive fast-twitch forward in the Gary Ablett senior/Jason Dunstall ilk, what we are witnessing is the arrival of a freaky forward whose major assets are either pure footballer - marking, reading the play - or above the shoulders.
One trait, almost essential to full-forwards, that Jack doesn't lack is self-belief. ''I think he knows what he's good at,'' said Richmond general manager of football Craig Cameron. Another club insider compared him to Dermott Brereton and Carlton's flamboyant premiership forward Peter Bosustow in the sense that he thrived under the spotlight.
As Brereton noted, few elite forwards lack for confidence, or ''have an inner drive that is abnormally peculiar''.
IN THE final quarter on Saturday night, Riewoldt took an astonishing pack mark about 25 metres out and booted a critical goal. When replayed in slow motion, it appeared as though only one player was launching himself at the ball; the others in the pack, teammates or Dockers, were rendered static.
Kevin Sheehan, the AFL's talent identification manager, notes that Gary Ablett snr used to take those kinds of marks, which rely on the forward judging where the ball will end up and then launching himself. All the great contested marking forwards - Wayne Carey, Royce Hart, Ablett snr - ascertained the flight path very early before their take-off.
The exceptional traits, as shown in that pack mark and many other grabs, are the judgment of the ball in flight, the confidence to attack it and the hands. Brereton, who worked with Riewoldt casually last year as a favour to his friend, then caretaker coach Jade Rawlings, did the marking practice drill in which both players boot high-velocity balls at one another from seven-10 metres.
''He was as clean as anyone I've ever seen,'' said Brereton, who has seen plenty of champions, such as Dunstall and Leigh Matthews, up close.
Riewoldt's abilities have come to the fore, in part, due to changes in the way AFL teams play and in Richmond's game style in particular. Observers at club level believe he has benefited from the trend towards long kicks to an isolated deep target. When Riewoldt booted 10 goals against West Coast, eight were from one-on-one aerial contests in which he either marked, crumbed or received a free.
Zoning has created a mill of players close to the ball, with less space for a leading forward. Consequently, teams are more willing to boot the ball to a man-on-man duel, which also allows them to set up a defensive ''press'' in the event of a turnover.
Under Damien Hardwick, the Tigers have become expert at keeping Riewoldt one-out, where his judgment, play-reading and footy nous see him win either aerial contests or cat-and-mouse games on the ground. ''He's also smart enough to know how to play his opponent,'' said Cameron.
The most intriguing piece in the Riewoldt mosaic is his extroverted personality. Such players are rare in football generally, are rarer still at Tigerland, where the playing group is mainly comprised of introverts. But full-forwards are often ''different cats'' who cannot succeed without belief, since they are asked to do the improbable more than midfielders or defenders.
How many players would even attempt Franklin's running goals against Essendon in that final quarter?
Riewoldt would attempt - and take - an improbable mark, and try a difficult goal. But much of his improvement has come by percentage football - holding marks, holding the ball in the forward line, and converting the goals that he should kick.
And, as recent weeks have shown, when he starts slotting them, he is apt to get on a roll.
''The bottom line is, he's just a smart footballer,'' said Cameron.
''He understands how to play different scenarios.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-riewoldt-riddle-20100714-10b33.html
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Jack Riewoldt is making a name for himself
* Greg Davis
* Sunday Herald Sun
* July 18, 2010
FOR his first three seasons in the AFL, Richmond's Jack Riewoldt was better known as "Nick's cousin".
But the full-forward has made a name for himself this year with a blistering season for the Tigers that has catapulted him to the top of the Coleman Medal standings with 58 goals.
His out-of-the-box season has even led some to cheekily refer to St Kilda captain Nick Riewoldt as "Jack's cousin".
But has Jack done enough to leap into the rarefied air occupied by Nick, the Saints' centre half-forward and captain, who is a genuine superstar of the game?
Can he legitimately challenge his cousin, six years his senior, as the best Riewoldt in football?
Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall - the third-highest goalkicker in the history of the game with 1254 majors in 269 games for the Hawks - says it is "mischievous" to mention Jack in the same breath as Nick. For now.
Dunstall said Jack had won him over this season, but he had a long way to go before he could surpass Nick.
"I was one of a group of people who hadn't seen enough to be convinced prior to this year. You'd hear talk about how this Jack Riewoldt had talent, how he could take the big mark and do this and that and the other," Dunstall said.
"But I've seen a heap of Richmond games this year and I have to say, I've completely turned around on him.
"I think he is a star. Absolutely. He is having an outstanding year. He is a super player.
"But he's got to do what he's doing this year for five years.
"Nick has more or less dominated the competition for a number of years.
"He and Jonathan Brown have been the two power forwards at the top of the tree for the best part of six to eight years."
Jack loses little when comparing his first four seasons in the AFL (2007-10) to Nick's first four at the elite level (2001-04).
In 61 games, Jack has kicked 115 goals to Nick's 120 in 75 games. Jack has taken 92 contested marks in the same period, with Nick grabbing 154.
Dunstall's fellow Fox Sports commentator and Brisbane Lions triple premiership player Alastair Lynch played against Jack's father, Chris, in the Tasmanian competition in the 1980s and joined forces in the state team.
Lynch went on to kick 633 goals in 306 matches for the Brisbane Lions and Fitzroy to sit in the top 25 goalkickers of all-time.
He agreed the younger Riewoldt had to turn a ton of potential into consistent performances.
"There's no doubt that Jack has done outstandingly well, but, realistically, he has a long way to go to get to Nick, who is a legitimate superstar of our game," Lynch said.
"Nick has been playing at a consistently high level for sometime and that is Jack's challenge, to maintain his current level. They are slightly different players, too, with slightly different situations.
"Jack plays as a deep forward while Nick plays all over the place and is an elite runner. Jack is also seeing more of the ball, because he is the focal point for the Tigers. You can get that with the lowly ranked teams. There are not a lot of other options sometimes."
Dunstall said the intense focus on Jack Riewoldt made his goalkicking heroics all the more commendable.
"He might get most of the opportunities, but, conversely, the opposition knows where the ball is going and the defenders will drop back on him," Dunstall said.
"He is competing against two or three guys at a time and is still taking his marks and doing what he's doing.
"He reads the game as well as anybody and I love the fact he takes such a good contested mark.
"His second and third efforts are what impresses me the most."
One area where Jack does have Nick covered - to the shock of many - is in height. Jack is listed at 195cm, compared with Nick's 193cm.
"That surprised everybody. Jack is like Peter Daicos (the former Collingwood great). He's got the long body without the long legs," Dunstall said.
Richmond - which has won five of its last six matches, after losing its opening nine games of the year - takes on North Melbourne at the MCG today.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-is-making-a-name-for-himself/story-e6frf9jf-1225893337765
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"That surprised everybody. Jack is like Peter Daicos (the former Collingwood great). He's got the long body without the long legs," Dunstall said.
His balance comes from this. Helps him in one-one-ones, means he can play tall or small and helps his kicking too.
Just on Jack - has there ever been a player where you are almost hoping the kick to him is a mongrel. Drop punts give most defenders a good read, but when the ball is slapped on the boot it seems Jack's superior judgement is really noticeable
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Only three goals and 8 disposals- time to trade :D
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Only three goals and 8 disposals- time to trade :D
Your right GR12 enoughs enough
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Geez tough on him being compared to cousin Nick all the time.
Compare him to the key forwards taken in the same draft.
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Geez tough on him being compared to cousin Nick all the time.
Compare him to the key forwards taken in the same draft.
he is better than his cousin nick
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The Tackle
By Mark Robinson
WHAT I THINK I DON'T LIKE
5. Jack Riewoldt
Superstar in the making, super-whinger as well if he doesn't quickly realise how hard his teammates are working to get the ball to him. He is demanding, Jack, and his emotions are there for all to see. The MMMs gave him worst on ground on Saturday. Although that was a fraction harsh, a reputation is building.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
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The Tackle
By Mark Robinson
WHAT I THINK I DON'T LIKE
5. Jack Riewoldt
Superstar in the making, super-whinger as well if he doesn't quickly realise how hard his teammates are working to get the ball to him. He is demanding, Jack, and his emotions are there for all to see. The MMMs gave him worst on ground on Saturday. Although that was a fraction harsh, a reputation is building.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
eff off Robbo. As George Costanzo once said "he has hand"
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From the RFC site....
When asked if helping forward Jack Riewoldt win the race to claim the Coleman medal could also be a motivating factor, the old defender came out in Hardwick.
“I don’t like a goalkicking award to perfectly honest,” he said.
“If we could have one get away from our club, that’s a purely individual award that I’m not interested in and I’d be disappointed if our team was interested in that also.
“For us it’s all about getting our team game in place and going that way. It’s the furthest thing from my thoughts and the team’s thoughts in general.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/99222/default.aspx
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Not surprised by Dimma's comments towards the Coleman in relation to Jack. The final siren saved Jack just as Dimma was about to drag him. Hardwick wasn't happy with a few of Jack's low percentage pot shots from the boundary line. It looked selfish and that Jack had the Coleman on his mind rather than playing to the team rules. A lesson learnt by Jack.
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3aw said Jack was at the Mary Poppins musical tonight. He'll cop a ribbing over that from the rest of the boys lol.
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The bookies (luxbet) now have Barry Hall as Coleman medal favourite..... :-\
Hall, Barry (Western Bulldogs) 1.67
Riewoldt, Jack (Richmond) 2.20
LeCras, Mark (West Coast) 14
Pavlich, Matthew (Fremantle) 51
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The media are pumping up the battle between Jack and James Frawley...
Young AFL stars face years in battle
SAM LIENERT
August 7, 2010
An expected duel between Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt and Melbourne defender James Frawley looms as pivotal not only at the MCG on Sunday, but for years to come.
Since they were taken a pick apart at the 2006 national draft - Frawley at No.12, Riewoldt at 13 - their two clubs have shared the wooden spoons, Richmond in 2007 and the Demons in 2008 and 2009.
But both teams have made significant strides since battling for bottom spot this time last year, with Melbourne still in finals contention if they beat Richmond, while the Tigers are chasing their seventh win in 10 rounds.
The superb form of the two 21-year-olds has been a major factor, Riewoldt equal top of the AFL goal-kicking tally and Frawley regularly restricting the game's top forwards, while providing great defensive rebound.
If those two players and their clubs continue on their current path, the Riewoldt-Frawley duel will be a feature of the coming decade.
The Demons belted Richmond by 55 points in round four, but Frawley, who kept Brisbane's Jonathan Brown in check last weekend, acknowledged he found Riewoldt - who kicked 3.4 and took nine marks on him - a handful.
"I've played on him a couple times, and he's improved out of sight this year," Frawley said.
"I played on him (in round four) and he got the honours ... he's a very good one-on-one mark, a very good contested player and just a smart footballer."
He said combating the star Tiger took a team effort.
"Nearly 60 per cent of the time they go inside 50 they go to Riewoldt, so it's probably a good opportunity for blokes to come and help out," he said.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/young-afl-stars-face-years-in-battle-20100807-11p0g.html
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Jack's definitely struggling with the added attention and homework done by opposition coaches. He's no longer getting the one outs anymore. Without a proper 2nd tall forward (Griffiths) and midsize marking forwards leading the opposite way and dragging defenders away from Jack to the other side, it's making it too easy for opposition defences to counter him. Our disposal entering forward 50 doesn't help either. Way more inside 50s today yet we were just too predictable with too many long bombs. Jack didn't do himself any favours missing 3 gettable chances. The one running into an open goal and going with his non-preferred foot summed up his mindset over the past couple of weeks. Needs to get back to basics and make sure when the chances come at least he's making the most of them.
Barry Hall still goalless late in the Dogs-Adelaide game. So Jack may be back to leading the Coleman.
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If this season is about development I'd get Jack leading from either true CHF or a HFF up the ground for the rest of the season. We are short of talls at the moment, but we also are not developing any other structured way to goal. The bomb it long to Jack tactic is predictable and if it happens next season could be a cancer on this group.
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Its interesting that Jacks run of form dropped off when griffiths went out of the team.
Although he didnt have a big impact it seems he played his role well and allowed Jack to get one on one, something he has struggled to do without griffiths in the side.
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Yep we don't want to go down the Richo-centric path again. I think Dimma would be aware of it. This year was about working on the defensive side of our gameplan mostly. From an attacking point of view Dimma has kept things very basic - old school run forward of centre and a quick long kick to the forward. I would say over preseason and next year we'll be developing our forward play more so we're not so predictable. March today mentioned a "phase 2" of our gameplan that's yet to be implemented. I would say that would be our attacking play working on more sophisticated set-ups.
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won't win the coleman :( unless barry brakes his leg
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Frawlery played real real well on him, numerous occasions when Jack "normally" pushed off his opponents to run onto a crumbing ball Frawley was strong enough for the task. Was a good battle all day that Frawley ultimately won pretty convincingly.
Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there. I like the idea but hate it seeing them contest the same marks as Jack. On 2 occasions Thursty and McGuane killed the contest with there mark attempts and bringing in there opponent to Jack/Frawley one out.
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Griffiths not playing hasnt helped. Griffiths wasnt getting alot of the footy but hes a smart player and was taking players away from Riewoldt. Need Griffiths to have a good 2011.
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Would think Jack needs to start leading more. He is getting beaten too easily at the moment with the one on one stuff so it's time to go back to basics. Also needs to stop flying for the screamer all the time.
He should utilise the other strong parts of his game eg his pace and go from there
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Its interesting that Jacks run of form dropped off when griffiths went out of the team.
Although he didnt have a big impact it seems he played his role well and allowed Jack to get one on one, something he has struggled to do without griffiths in the side.
Jacks and Connors form have dropped off at the same time, mmmmmmmmm I wonder why ?
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Its interesting that Jacks run of form dropped off when griffiths went out of the team.
Although he didnt have a big impact it seems he played his role well and allowed Jack to get one on one, something he has struggled to do without griffiths in the side.
Jacks and Connors form have dropped off at the same time, mmmmmmmmm I wonder why ?
why?
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Its interesting that Jacks run of form dropped off when griffiths went out of the team.
Although he didnt have a big impact it seems he played his role well and allowed Jack to get one on one, something he has struggled to do without griffiths in the side.
Jacks and Connors form have dropped off at the same time, mmmmmmmmm I wonder why ?
Are they lovers?
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Its interesting that Jacks run of form dropped off when griffiths went out of the team.
Although he didnt have a big impact it seems he played his role well and allowed Jack to get one on one, something he has struggled to do without griffiths in the side.
Jacks and Connors form have dropped off at the same time, mmmmmmmmm I wonder why ?
why?
yeh why? Do you know or are you just teasing because I'm starting to get sick of learning about gossip but not hearing the gossip.
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Got some serious attitude issues Rewoldt, Melbourne players rubbed it into him.
But poor coaching today dont help
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Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there. I like the idea but hate it seeing them contest the same marks as Jack. On 2 occasions Thursty and McGuane killed the contest with there mark attempts and bringing in there opponent to Jack/Frawley one out.
Yep, made the same comment during the game myself Pope. Wouldn't want this to happen on a regular basis - the idea of a 2-pronged forward line is exactly that - have 2 independent targets, not a collective target group.
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Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there.
Think they showed why they're defenders. ;)
Griffiths missing is the key but I'd like to think we have another alternative KPF as well for backup.
Post? Westhoff? Gourdis?
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Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there.
Think they showed why they're defenders. ;)
Griffiths missing is the key but I'd like to think we have another alternative KPF as well for backup.
Post? Westhoff? Gourdis?
seem a long way of - the three of them atm.
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Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there. I like the idea but hate it seeing them contest the same marks as Jack. On 2 occasions Thursty and McGuane killed the contest with there mark attempts and bringing in there opponent to Jack/Frawley one out.
Yep, made the same comment during the game myself Pope. Wouldn't want this to happen on a regular basis - the idea of a 2-pronged forward line is exactly that - have 2 independent targets, not a collective target group.
Yeah agree 100%
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Anyones thoughts on seeing McGuane and Thursty down there.
Think they showed why they're defenders. ;)
Griffiths missing is the key but I'd like to think we have another alternative KPF as well for backup.
Post? Westhoff? Gourdis?
seem a long way of - the three of them atm.
I think Vickery is the go for next year, it'll be his third season. Hopefully he has a big pre-season and can cause a few headaches for opposition coaches so they stop putting 3 guys onto Riewoldt.
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Are they lovers?
Who?
TM and Jackstar?
I don't think so it is more a Batman and Robin thing.
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Are they lovers?
Who?
TM and Jackstar?
I don't think so it is more a Batman and Robin thing.
Lolol.
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Jacks and Connors form have dropped off at the same time, mmmmmmmmm I wonder why ?
Gawd. ::)
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He is still young got alot of things he needs to work on but is there some we can push foward to relive pressure ? i think Newman? see how he works or what about tuck ? but face it its always gonna be double team Reiwoldt :/
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The difference now with fill-ins like McGuane and Thursty compared to when Griffiths was alongside Jack is although Griffs didn't get much of the ball himself he didn't go for the same ball as Jack and so kept his defender away from Jack. McGuane plays forward like a defender reading the flight and rushing back to get to the contest. That's fine in the backline where you need to contest but as a forward all he does is drag his opponent also to the contest. Schulz did the same thing with Richo which is why they could never work together in the same forward line.
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The race for the Coleman Medal
Scott Gullan
Herald Sun
August 13, 2010 6:49PM
MATTHEW Lloyd hopes his premiership teammate Damien Hardwick takes a leaf out of the Kevin Sheedy playbook in Round 22.
The former Essendon goalkicking champion predicts the Richmond-Port Adelaide clash - written off by most as a non-event, given it has no bearing on the finals - will take on new meaning when Tigers youngster Jack Riewoldt is shooting for the Coleman Medal.
With three games remaining and only a goal separating Riewoldt and Western Bulldogs spearhead Barry Hall, Lloyd anticipates a story similar to 2004, when he was pitted head-to-head with St Kilda's Fraser Gehrig in the final round.
After Gehrig kicked four goals on the Saturday to take his season tally to 90, Lloyd showed up at Etihad Stadium 24 hours later knowing he needed to kick seven against the Western Bulldogs to claim the title.
"I remember the boys just cleared out the forward line because I needed seven to beat Fraser Gehrig in the last game, but I ended up with six," Lloyd recalled during the week.
"It was something our club embraced. Sheeds embraced it, as did the players. We all loved it.
''I think with Jack they should be encouraging it because they haven't had much success and I think it would be good for Richmond if he could go on and win it."
Given Hall will play against Essendon the night before at Etihad Stadium, Riewoldt will know when he runs out against Port exactly how many goals he needs to become the Tigers' first Coleman Medal winner since Michael Roach in 1981.
But Hardwick might be the fly in the ointment. The Tigers coach already has stated he doesn't see the benefit of individual awards, given the team culture he is trying to create at Punt Rd.
Lloyd argues that the excitement the feat would generate for Riewoldt's teammates and the club far outweighs the negatives.
Lloyd won the first of three Coleman Medals in 2000 when he was 22. Riewoldt turns 22 in October.
"One of the best things I have ever done was win it (the Coleman)," Lloyd said. "As a young player you should be encouraged to look at these things, I mean, I grew up idolising Bernie Quinlan and wanting to be the best goalkicker.
"It's not all about the individual because I didn't play outside the team rules when I won it. It's a big fillip for a team when it happens.
"Look, to kick the most goals in the AFL competition, while it doesn't compare with winning a Grand Final, on an individual note it was one of the greatest thrills I've had.
"Given Jack is in the 15th-ranked side and to stand up all through that - even when he might have started slowly and the last few weeks have been a bit slow - over a 10-week period he was clearly the best forward in the game.
"So he fully deserves the honour."
However, while his heart is with Riewoldt, Lloyd is tipping Hall to snag his first Coleman at age 33.
"I think Hall's consistency could get him home," Lloyd said. "I think just the way the Bulldogs are starting to steamroll teams, he will get more opportunities and just the weight of numbers and being more experienced will get him over the line."
Hall has two games at his favourite hunting ground, Etihad Stadium, either side of a visit to his former stomping ground, the SCG.
The Bulldogs full-forward averages four goals a game at Etihad Stadium, where he has scored 44 of his 65 goals. He also has kicked 30 behinds in his 18 games this year.
Riewoldt plays against Carlton at the MCG today and then has two Etihad games - against St Kilda and Port Adelaide.
He has kicked 37 of his 66 goals in 11 games at the MCG but, in a major positive, his two games at Etihad this year have reaped 11.4.
The most exciting finish to the Coleman in recent years happened in 2008, when Hawthorn's Lance Franklin and Carlton's Brendan Fevola went head-to-head in the same game.
Franklin started six goals clear and needed only two to reach 100. He did that in the opening quarter and finished with five.
The showdown seemed like a non-event before Fevola steamed home with seven goals in the second half to finish on 99.
Both were named in the All-Australian team with Jack Riewoldt's cousin, Nick, at centre half-forward.
Given those three are unlikely to figure this year and another regular, Jonathan Brown, has missed much of the season through injury, Hall and Jack Riewoldt will feature prominently in All-Australian calculations.
Some punters are also smiling - Jack Riewoldt started the year at 500-1 for the Coleman, and was still that quote after eight rounds. Hall was a juicy $17 when markets opened.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-race-for-the-coleman-medal/story-e6frf9jf-1225905048188
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Easy, Tiger
CAROLINE WILSON
August 14, 2010
JACK Riewoldt is a reluctant interviewee. Although words and opinions come as naturally to this emerging Tigers star as goals did in that break-out game against West Coast in June, he has been as keen in recent weeks to muzzle himself as Damien Hardwick was when he kicked his 10 against the Eagles.
Riewoldt is a smart 21-year-old who respects his own shortcomings as much as he respects football. He is concerned he will come across as a big head, an individualistic type among a team determined to reinvent itself and, in turn, the battered reputation of the Richmond Football Club.
And, of course, he hasn't been happy with his recent form. The goals have dried up of late after a sizzling 43-goal, eight-game mid-season haul, and while he still leads the Coleman Medal count, the tally has intensified into a two-horse race between the veteran Barry Hall and the young Tiger who has burst into the elite landscape in his fourth year at Richmond.
"The coach was probably trying to protect me," he said of Hardwick's self-described "rookie-coach error" in banning his full-forward from talking to AFL broadcasters after he became the first footballer in more than three years to kick double figures in a game. "Because I do have the ability to go on about myself at length."
Riewoldt, the oldest of three boys, jokes he would deal better with the goalkicking situation if his youngest brother Charlie, 17, back home in Hobart would get off his back about winning it.
"I'd love to win it," he said. "If you asked any player in the competition, they'd say the same. And I'm in a situation where I'm a chance. If it happens, it happens, but if not, it's not the end of the world. I would happily give up three goals a game for the next three weeks if we could end the season on nine wins."
Hardwick could see that the goals — or lack thereof — were playing mind games with Riewoldt, and last week the coach took him aside for a talk.
Hardwick said: "The Coleman is very much an individual award so I just asked Jack what he'd rather win: A Coleman or a best and fairest. He said a best and fairest, so I asked him where he thought he was going to get votes from the coaching staff, because it wasn't going to come from the goals.
"I just told him if he did the small things, the goals would come. I think perhaps he had settled into a bit of a comfort zone in the goal square, but I think last week he made some small steps towards those small things."
Hardwick also reminded Riewoldt that he was on track to win the Michael Roach Medal as Richmond's leading goalkicker — two more goals this season would see him become the highest goalkicker at the club since Matthew Richardson kicked 91 14 years ago.
Hardwick described Riewoldt as a "belter" whom he always rated but who has improved significantly this season. His former coach, Tasmanian VFL teammate and close friend Jade Rawlings, who worked closely with Riewoldt on his marking last season, paid tribute to the coaching group at Richmond for his progress this year.
"I always thought he'd be a fantastic second tall who was capable of 40 or 50 goals a year," said Rawlings, "but he has shown a lot more this year. What we worked on last year was all about a combination of timing and whether or not to neutralise the contest or place himself in the dominant position to take the mark.
"That's what he thrived on in junior footy and he was always a smart kid. I played with him when he made the Tassie VFL side, which was our affiliate then at North (Melbourne). He needed a whack on the head at times to knock him down a bit but he always bounced back and understood why he'd been whacked."
And yet Riewoldt needn't have worried about how he would come across in this, a rare in-depth interview, in which he combines charm, self-deprecation and enthusiasm — particularly self-deprecation.
Although the club has privately defended Riewoldt's emotional on-field behaviour in recent weeks, insisting that he is not performing dummy spits but simply attempting to direct traffic and adhere to the game plan, Riewoldt said the above was a generous assessment.
"I do wear my heart on my sleeve," he said, "and I do get frustrated, but I've got to take control of that because I look like a idiot when I do it. It's brought up in the media and it's shown again and again in team meetings.
"I do believe I have a good understanding of the game and the game plan but sometimes those things are better done in private than in public. Someone like Dustin Martin doesn't need me having a go at him during a game. That's not something he benefits from — not that he would ever complain about it."
Riewoldt described 2010 for both him and his club as one of steep learning curves and a season punctuated with ups and downs. The darkest hour for Richmond came after round three when the club had suffered its third straight loss under Hardwick, a thrashing at the hands of Sydney, and it emerged that a drunken Daniel Connors — Riewoldt's closest friend at the club — had run rampant through his Sydney hotel after a session with teammates Luke McGuane, Dean Polo and Ben Cousins.
Those who had been at Richmond for several years were not surprised that it was Riewoldt who took charge at several stages of a robust and confrontational team meeting on the Monday that followed. But chief executive Brendon Gale, a relative newcomer who was still learning about the playing group, was struck by Riewoldt's leadership.
"I've always been pretty vocal," said Riewoldt. "And I think the best clubs are teams that can coach themselves, but that was a big one for me.
"It's hard to confront a guy like Ben Cousins and challenge him. I mean he's Ben Cousins and he has this aura. And it was hard confronting my best mate and telling him: 'You've got a problem, mate, and you need to do something about it.' "
Connors and Riewoldt had driven home from Melbourne airport together after the Sydney debacle and the shattered Connors predicted to his friend that he would be delisted the following day. ''It hit him pretty hard,'' said Riewoldt, ''and it hit his family pretty hard too.''
Riewoldt, fearful of how his friend would cope with the news of his eight-week suspension, dined with Connors on the night of the decision and spoke with him every day for the next eight weeks. ''I'm absolutely rapt with the way he handled it and I couldn't be more proud of him. It's probably been a bit of a turning point for everyone.
''But the big factor is our captain (Chris Newman). He's the one who's made the difference. He's really leading us and if he's not a natural-born leader then he's worked hard to become one. If he's not alongside Kane Johnson then he's ahead of him and he's definitely become the best captain in the AFL, I believe.''
Riewoldt's toughest time personally was the scrutiny he received after Fox Sports aired half-time vision during its round-five telecast of the Richmond-Fremantle game. Commentator Brian Taylor said that Riewoldt was the only forward not listening to coach Danny Daly. The vision has aired several times and initially floored Riewoldt, who still appears mortified and mystified at how distracted he appeared.
''I had to apologise to Danny Daly, the forward-line coach, because it just looked so bad,'' offered Riewoldt. ''He said I had nothing to apologise for. He said he knew I was listening and I'm sure I was looking at an injured finger at the time.
''It was a non-issue where the club was concerned but I learned a lot about myself and dealing with things about how situations can portray you in a certain light.''
Although Riewoldt is talking to The Age not after a win but a loss, he insists it has been impossible not to love what is happening this year at his football club. ''You look at guys like Ben Griffiths, who hasn't played in a loss,'' he began before getting on a roll, ''and Robbie Hicks (another first-year player who kicked his first goal last week) and the form of guys like Shane Tuck and Trent (Cotchin), and 'Cuzzy' (Cousins) after a win, when he just goes crazy.
''We relied on 'Richo' and Kane (Johnson) and Nathan Brown and Joel (Bowden) to win us games for so long and to see guys like Brett Deledio and Dustin Martin do it now it's just an exciting prospect although it's hard to be patient sometimes.''
Of his own form he says only: ''I felt I was letting the club down with my marking because that was something I prided myself on in junior footy - taking pack marks. I've just worked really hard with the coaches and I've been lucky enough to take a few this year.''
But it is when talking about Hardwick that Riewoldt is at his most colourful. ''I know we're not winning many games but he has just made footy so exciting,'' said Riewoldt. ''I get pretty upset after a loss and then we'll go to a team meeting and the thing about Damien, he's just so positive.
''He'll say: 'Look boys, I know we lost and we're disappointed but look what we did wrong and how we could have beaten them. Just imagine the room for improvement.' He'll go through all the areas where we can work on and fix and he always has this sparkle in his eye.
''It's sort of like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and he's Willy Wonka and Richmond is the chocolate factory and we're the kids going through the factory. There's just that little bit of magic in the air.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/easy-tiger-20100813-12388.html
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Easy, Tiger
CAROLINE WILSON
August 14, 2010
But it is when talking about Hardwick that Riewoldt is at his most colourful. ''I know we're not winning many games but he has just made footy so exciting,'' said Riewoldt. ''I get pretty upset after a loss and then we'll go to a team meeting and the thing about Damien, he's just so positive.
''He'll say: 'Look boys, I know we lost and we're disappointed but look what we did wrong and how we could have beaten them. Just imagine the room for improvement.' He'll go through all the areas where we can work on and fix and he always has this sparkle in his eye.
''It's sort of like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and he's Willy Wonka and Richmond is the chocolate factory and we're the kids going through the factory. There's just that little bit of magic in the air.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/easy-tiger-20100813-12388.html
What a quote lol ;D
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gay
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i think Dimma forgets that its this kid who brings the crowed not the team .
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Well Jack is still leading the Coleman by one thanks to the goals drying up for Barry Hall as well over the past two weeks. Jack will need to kick a few in the last two rounds though with the Dogs playing the Bombers in round 22 who leak goals like a sieve. Jack will have the advantage of playing on the Sunday against Port knowing what he'll need.
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'Give Jack Riewoldt fair go'
Tony Sheahan
Sunday Herald Sun
August 15, 2010
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has called on the umpires for a fair go following yesterday's mauling by Carlton.
Hardwick was not only appalled by his charges' display against a hungry Blues outfit, he was as angry at a number of umpiring decisions.
He singled out treatment to Tigers spearhead Jack Riewoldt, who was manhandled all day but failed to receive a free kick, and a mind-boggling free awarded to Lachlan Henderson against Brett Deledio.
Carlton led the free kick count 29-18.
"I think poor old Jack is struggling at the moment," Hardwick said after the game. "I've actually got to go and see the umpires at some stage."
The frustrated Tigers coach stopped short of a fine, but the message was crystal clear: Look after for the forwards.
"Like most bits of play, I think you could pull out a number of free kicks from every bit of play you look at closely," he said.
"I think what we've got to do is bring some attention to the powers that be to have a look at it, because Jack is a great player.
"We want to see the good players protected. We want to see them get their just rewards.
"We don't want to see them being manhandled and looked after. We just want them to play on equal terms."
Riewoldt had a shocker with just one disposal to halftime.
But Hardwick would not lay blame squarely on the shoulders of his usually potent key forward.
"Our forwards got caught a little too high up the ground. They couldn't get back to equalise numbers, so that did hurt us," he said. "We didn't use the ball well enough."
Deledio was another singled out by the umpires yesterday, in particular during the first quarter.
Frustration got the better of him after Henderson marked and goaled, with the Carlton big man asking where Deledio was during the marking contest.
Deledio then wiped the face of Henderson with a towel. The umpires saw the harmless exchange, but deemed it serious enough to award Henderson another kick at goal.
"Was that a free kick? Yeah, geez, I don't know," Hardwick said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/give-jack-riewoldt-fair-go/story-e6frf9jf-1225905310899
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Jack now 8 ahead in the Coleman :thumbsup. Whispers too during the week that Hall has that virus going around the Kennel.
Jack 75
Hall 67
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Barry Hall only kicked two goal tonight so Jack is pretty much home for the Coleman you would think unless Hall kicks 10 against the Bombers next week. Six goals is a pretty big buffer with just one game to go.
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Only thing the Bombers can be counted on is to disappoint.
C'mon Jack bring it home with a big bag against Port
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Playing against the Bumbers Hall could kick 16!
They couldn't stop little Le Cras kicking 12
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Playing against the Bumbers Hall could kick 16!
They couldn't stop little Le Cras kicking 12
Correct
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Fletcher is out for the year. The only good thing is that Hall plays the bombers before we play port
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When you look at stats other than the 'G' column it really becomes clear what a good seasons he's had. His tackling numbers are phenomenal.
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
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I don't think the Dogs would be feeding Hall the ball to win a Coleman medal, they're just desperate for a win.
Maybe if they're 10 goals up at 3/4 time they might try to give him a few cheapies.
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Now I know that Jurrah and Goddard took good marks, but I hope the selectors don't get carried away just because they're freshest in memory and don't even look at some of Jacks.
The ones Jack took against St Kilda and Brisbane are just as good as the two taken on the weekend.
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Runs in the family
By Leigh Matthews
Mon 23 August, 2010
LAST Saturday when the third-placed St Kilda had a comfortable, if not totally convincing win over the 15th-placed Richmond, there was one unusual common denominator: both teams had a dominating Riewoldt.
During the 3AW call it was not sufficient to use the Riewoldt surname, it needed to be prefaced with either Nick or Jack.
It is a name clarification that is going to be necessary in many future games because Jack looks like joining Nick as one of footy's elite forwards.
While the cousins share the same surname, they are very different athletes.
The AFL Guide lists the 27-year-old Nick at a 193cm tall, and the 21-year-old Jack at 195cm.
On the field Nick looks significantly taller because of the optical illusion created by his longer legs, whereas Jack's height comes from a long body and shorter legs.
In athletic terms, Nick is built like a 400m runner with that long, loping stride that allows him to charge around the Saints' forward half with the rare mix of speed, stamina and marking power.
Forget he suffered a bad hamstring injury early this season. The Saints' captain comeback is complete and he is now back to his pre-injury form and fitness.
Frankly, Jack does not look to have any outstanding athletic gifts except for a quick burst of acceleration on the lead, a big leap and very good balance thanks to a body shape that provides a low centre of gravity.
It would appear that Jack is the typical full-forward, more in the mould of Alastair Lynch or Jason Dunstall, than the Jonathan Brown or Dermott Brereton-like centre half-forward.
His strengths are footy related and more valuable closer to goal where his great judgment, strong hands and quick reactions look like earning him this year's Coleman Medal.
His goalkicking form has been a massive improvement from 2009.
Last Saturday was the first time I have seen the two Riewoldts in the same game. Both Nick and Jack were terrific with 21 marks and 14 shots on goal between them.
In 2004, Nick was the first Riewoldt to be selected in the All-Australian team, and this year cousin Jack should be the second.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100899/default.aspx
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Another first for Jack
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
10:31 PM Mon 23 August, 2010
Star Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt continues to keep the football historians diving for their record books . . .
Last Saturday, Riewoldt became the first Tiger player to win the Ian Stewart Medal, when the Channel Ten commentators voted him best on ground following his superb seven-goal display in the team’s 21-point loss to St Kilda at Etihad Stadium. And, Riewoldt is the first key forward to take ‘Stewie’ home since the medal’s inception in 2004.
Previous winners of the Ian Stewart Medal were:
2004 - Austinn Jones, St Kilda
2005 - Nick Dal Santo, St Kilda
2006 - Lenny Hayes, St Kilda
2007 - Leigh Montagna, St Kilda
2008 - Stephen Milne, St Kilda
2009 - Brendon Goddard, St Kilda
The Ian Stewart Medal was struck six years ago, in recognition of the only player in league football history to win Brownlow Medals and premierships at two clubs.
Stewart played 127 games with St Kilda from 1963-70. He also won back-to-back Brownlow Medals with the Saints in 1965-66, and was a member of their only premiership side, in 1966.
In 1971, Stewart joined Richmond in a sensational swap for dual Tiger premiership player Bill Barrot.
‘Stewie’ went on to play 78 games with Richmond from 1971-75. He won the Brownlow Medal in his debut season with the Tigers, as well as the Club’s Best and Fairest award that year.
Two years later, he was a key member of the Richmond side that defeated Carlton by 30 points in the 1973 Grand Final.
“While individual medals are certainly not a focus of mine, it’s a great honor to win a medal that recognises one of the game’s all-time greats, and a Tasmanian, too,” Riewoldt said.
“Obviously, I never got the chance to see Ian play, but I am fully aware of what a brilliant footballer he was, and the impact he had at both St Kilda and Richmond during his league career.”
Riewoldt’s seven-goal haul against the Saints last Saturday took his season’s tally to 75 - six ahead of his nearest rival, Bulldog Barry Hall, in the race for the 2010 Coleman Medal, with just one round remaining.
If Riewoldt wins the Coleman Medal, would become the first Richmond player to do so since Michael Roach went back-to-back in 1980-81.
Roach was the Tigers’ first winner of the Coleman Medal (presented by the league since 1955, the year after the great John Coleman retired), in 1980, with 107 goals in the home-and-away rounds. He booted a further five in the finals series, for an all-up season’s total of 112. And, Roach took out the competition’s leading goalkicker award again in 1981, with 86 goals for the home-and-away season.
Before then, you had to go all the way back to 1940 to find the previous time a Tiger topped the league’s goalkicking at the end of the home-and-away rounds. That was when Jack Titus scored 92 home-and-away goals in the ’40 season, and a further eight in the finals series, to chalk up the ton (100 goals exactly).
Three years earlier, Dick Harris took out the competition’s leading goalkicker award, with 64 goals in the home-and-away rounds. In 1943, Harris finished 10 goals behind Melbourne’s Fred Fanning at the end of the home-and-away season, with 52, but kicked 11 in the finals series, as the Tigers took out the premiership, to finish with a total of 63 goals and the No. 1 spot on the competition’s goalkicking table.
In 1920, the year of Richmond’s inaugural premiership in the then VFL competition, George Bayliss became the first Tiger to top the goalkicking, with 62 goals in the home-and-away season.
Roach, Titus, Harris and Bayliss are the only Richmond players to have won the competition’s leading goalkicker award.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/101017/default.aspx
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Could be our third great 'Jack'.
Nearly enough for a pack of cards.
We've had a few kings too - Jake, Clinton and Rex Hunt if you took Latin.
God knows we've had a few queens over the last couple of decades too.
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Mark McQueen
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know stuffwit
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know effwit
Try and smile once in a while TM, that's if you have any teeth?
How's Joffa going?
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Mark McQueen
please dont bring up the past :lol
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Could be our third great 'Jack'.
Nearly enough for a pack of cards.
We've had a few kings too - Jake, Clinton and Rex Hunt if you took Latin.
God knows we've had a few queens over the last couple of decades too.
Haha funny post this
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know effwit
Try and smile once in a while TM, that's if you have any teeth?
How's Joffa going?
who's Joffa
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know effwit
Try and smile once in a while TM, that's if you have any teeth?
How's Joffa going?
who's Joffa
Your twin brother ;D
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know effwit
Try and smile once in a while TM, that's if you have any teeth?
How's Joffa going?
who's Joffa
Your twin brother ;D
maybe Popelords gay twin ;D
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LMAO at comparing Riewoldt and Raines, Jack has done more in one year than that Spud will over his whole career
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LMAO at comparing Riewoldt and Raines, Jack has done more in one year than that Spud will over his whole career
was meaning dont go blabing Rewoldt as some champion cause his far from it
could be a 1 season wonder like Raines
Rewoldt is nothing more than a good player. Dont pump his head up too much cause his acting like a young Richo at present :lol
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Barring a bad knee or something he is gonna dominate monk. Ill hang my acketts on it.
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l was one who said Rewoldt was weak & going backwards & with his attitude is going nowhere.
Its about time his pulled his head in & give something back. l'm not peeing in his pockets until he puts a season together.
And the award for worst call goes to...
Is a Coleman medal at 21 good enough TM?
Fail lol.
your a idiot.
he could be the next Raines for all you know effwit
Try and smile once in a while TM, that's if you have any teeth?
How's Joffa going?
who's Joffa
Your twin brother ;D
LOL Gold.
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LMAO at comparing Riewoldt and Raines, Jack has done more in one year than that Spud will over his whole career
was meaning dont go blabing Rewoldt as some champion cause his far from it
could be a 1 season wonder like Raines
Rewoldt is nothing more than a good player. Dont pump his head up too much cause his acting like a young Richo at present :lol
Yeah none of us have any right to be excited over a 21 year old Coleman medallist to be. Nor should we be excite about Dustin Martins first year, or Hardwicks game plan.
We should be forever negative.... :rollin
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We should be forever negative.... :rollin
Yep you are right Pope.
Geez I wish I was a Collingwood supporter..................
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We should be forever negative.... :rollin
Yep you are right Pope.
Geez I wish I was a Collingwood supporter..................
l know your a sheep Chunk
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We should be forever negative.... :rollin
Yep you are right Pope.
Geez I wish I was a Collingwood supporter..................
l know your a sheep Chunk
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Regards Chunky
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I won't start a new thread yet...but.
Congratulations on winning the Coleman Medal Jack.
By about 6pm this will be confirmed. ;)
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Yep our final tomorrow, gunna be a fun day, Jack, Cuz, kicking Ports rrrrr :gotigers
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Rumour Bazza is late withdrawl :birthday may start the celebrations tonight :cheers
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Be sweet to finish the year without the spoon, a Coleman medalist and two AAs. Jam that in ya crack pipes ya bloody ass clowns.
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Rumour Bazza is late withdrawl :birthday may start the celebrations tonight :cheers
Bazz playing and has two goals into the second quarter!
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whats he need to steal it?
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75-67 before the game started i think
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Jack now 8 ahead in the Coleman :thumbsup. Whispers too during the week that Hall has that virus going around the Kennel.
Jack 75
Hall 67
Yep
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well, he has to kick 8 just to get even and then some more to make sure, short of knocking out his opponent, which he has done before...I don't reckon he will do it.
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It's helping Jack that Hall (2 goals) is playing higher up at CHF and Grant (4 goals) is actually the FF tonight for the Dogs.
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It's helping Jack that Hall (2 goals) is playing higher up at CHF and Grant (4 goals) is actually the FF tonight for the Dogs.
Grants gonna be a good player I reckon!
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It's helping Jack that Hall (2 goals) is playing higher up at CHF and Grant (4 goals) is actually the FF tonight for the Dogs.
Grants gonna be a good player I reckon!
Definitely.
Hall with 4 goals just before 3/4 time
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Grant looks like he's going to be a star.
Jack's got it in the bag. 8)
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Looking good for Jack, Magic :thumbsup
Under 10 mins to go and Hall still needs 2 goals just to tie it.
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His 10 tomorrow should seal it anyway.
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Short quarter and it's all over. Hall only kicked 4.
Jack is the 2010 Coleman Medallist :wahoo :clapping :thumbsup
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Short quarter and it's all over. Hall only kicked 4.
Jack is the 2010 Coleman Medallist :wahoo :clapping :thumbsup
Well done Jack :gotigers
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I wonder if any player from the 2nd bottom team has won it before. Doubt it.
Fair effort from Jack.
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Congrats Jack :thumbsup
If we beat Port by less than 25, we will likely be the lowest scoring team in the league. When if ever has the Coleman medallist come from the leagues lowest scoring team?
Shows you how remarkable Jack's achievement is and a bit of a worry really that we didn't manage to find more goalkickers.
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I wonder if any player from the 2nd bottom team has won it before. Doubt it.
Fair effort from Jack.
Fev won it in 2006 when the Blues won the wooden spoon. Still a top effort by our Jack :thumbsup.
Jack is just the 5th Tiger to be the League's leading goalkicker.
1920 George Bayliss 62
1937 Dick Harris 64
1940 Jack Titus 92
1980 Michael Roach 107
1981 Michael Roach 86
2010 Jack Riewoldt 75*
Great for Richmond to finally to have some modern day winner rather than every footy record involving Richmond finishing around the early 80s.
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Fev won it in 2006 when the Blues won the wooden spoon. Still a top effort by our Jack :thumbsup.
Indeed but Carlton were high scoring spooners. Really doubt anyone has done it from the lowest scoring team before..
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Fantastic reward for a great season by the young Tiger. :)
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Well done, Jackie! :gotigers
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Takes the pressure off tomorrow.
:thumbsup
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Fev won it in 2006 when the Blues won the wooden spoon. Still a top effort by our Jack :thumbsup.
Indeed but Carlton were high scoring spooners. Really doubt anyone has done it from the lowest scoring team before..
I think you're right Jake as far as us being the lowest scoring side to have a Coleman winner. Most Coleman medallists came from finals sides in the past apart from a few exceptions - Fev in 2006 and Lockett in 1987 at St Kilda.
Carlton 2006 1791 points for
Richmond 2010 1602* "
Unless of course we kick 200 points against Port tomorrow ;).
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Fev won it in 2006 when the Blues won the wooden spoon. Still a top effort by our Jack :thumbsup.
Indeed but Carlton were high scoring spooners. Really doubt anyone has done it from the lowest scoring team before..
I think you're right Jake as far as us being the lowest scoring side to have a Coleman winner. Most Coleman medallists came from finals sides in the past apart from a few exceptions - Fev in 2006 and Lockett in 1987 at St Kilda.
Carlton 2006 1791 points for
Richmond 2010 1602* "
Unless of course we kick 200 points against Port tomorrow ;).
What I meant MT was that we are the lowest scoring side in 2010, Carlton were not the lowest scoring side in 2006 (I thought it was 2005 Fev won - my bad), Kangaroos were lower scoring.
It is quite amazing that the leagues highest goal kicker might come from the lowest scoring team.... and possibly unprecedented
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Well done Jack! A well deserved Coleman medal. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Takes the pressure off tomorrow.
:thumbsup
Will be very interesting to see how he responds
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Congratulations to Jack Rewoldt on winning the Coleman Medal.
Its nice to finally have someone get rewarded for a much improved year.
Hope you finish it off in style tomorrow with a bag of goals & a stuffing huge screamer to take mark of the year ;D :gotigers
Finish it on a high ;D
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Congratulations to Jack Rewoldt on winning the Coleman Medal.
Its nice to finally have someone get rewarded for a much improved year.
Hope you finish it off in style tomorrow with a bag of goals & a effing huge screamer to take mark of the year ;D :gotigers
Finish it on a high ;D
*Rubs Eyes*
That couldn't possibly be a positive post would it?
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Congratulations to Jack Rewoldt on winning the Coleman Medal.
Its nice to finally have someone get rewarded for a much improved year.
Hope you finish it off in style tomorrow with a bag of goals & a effing huge screamer to take mark of the year ;D :gotigers
Finish it on a high ;D
*Rubs Eyes*
That couldn't possibly be a positive post would it?
shut up stuffwit ;D
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Baha and here I was trying to be nice..
But if you're going to be like that I think there is some room left on the bandwagon down the back somewhere..
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Baha and here I was trying to be nice..
But if you're going to be like that I think there is some room left on the bandwagon down the back somewhere..
l got no time for suckass people like you, Dont be nice to me cause l dont like you period
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lmao
I like u TM :scream
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Baha and here I was trying to be nice..
But if you're going to be like that I think there is some room left on the bandwagon down the back somewhere..
l got no time for suckass people like you, Dont be nice to me cause l dont like you period
Haha thats about the softest thing I've ever heard lol... Glad to read some positives things from you for a change, chicken heart..
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I love this site. :thumbsup
:lol
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Baha and here I was trying to be nice..
But if you're going to be like that I think there is some room left on the bandwagon down the back somewhere..
l got no time for suckass people like you, Dont be nice to me cause l dont like you period
I'm stumped, Who's period?
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:clapping Well done JR8 - I would of been nervous but can relax now - Ahhh stuff it 39 + :gotigers
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An outstanding turn up for the books and a game in hand
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JR8
:cheers
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JR8
Hope he has more substance and longevity to his period at the top than that other spineless flop with a similar moniker! :help
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All Jack Riewoldt wants is a flag
* Jon Ralph
* From: Herald Sun
* August 29, 2010 8:30PM
COLEMAN medallist Jack Riewoldt says individual awards will mean nothing to him if he finishes his career without premiership success.
Riewoldt kicked three goals in Richmond's Round 22 loss to finish on 78 for the year, five clear of Bulldog Barry Hall.
It was a breakout year in every way for Riewoldt, but after another bottom-two finish for the Tigers, he is clearly far from satisfied.
Instead of basking in the glow of one of the league's most coveted awards, he was frustrated to let down departing teammate Ben Cousins.
"It was disappointing. It's the only word to sum it up. It was disappointing we couldn't send one of the greatest players ever to play football out on a high note," he said.
Riewoldt said the example of Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch showed individual awards were quickly forgotten.
"It's a team sport, so the Brownlow and the Coleman and the MVP, those awards are great for players to win, but it's the guys who look back on premierships, I reckon. Justin Leppitsch won three premierships and no one knows if he won any individual awards.
"The bigger picture for us is premiership success. If we can get individual awards that's a bonus, but it's the last thing we are thinking about."
Riewoldt said the nucleus of Richmond's next premiership side was on the ground yesterday.
"It just shows that we can play good footy, but we are right at the bottom still," he said.
"If we can build on this and eradicate sections in our games where we have lapses, the world is our oyster."
Richmond's young players will return to the club in late October to begin pre-season training, and Riewoldt says they are hungry to improve."We have six to eight weeks and after that we will go back in and start running around again and hit the gym," he said.
"We have a great young group of players and they train hard, especially the young crop from this year. We know where we are at - 15th - and we know it's going to take a lot of hard work, but it's a sacrifice we are prepared to make."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/all-jack-riewoldt-wants-is-a-flag/story-e6frf9jf-1225911588253
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The Club now has out Jack Riewoldt memorabilia to celebrate his Coleman Medal ...
(https://assets.clubsonline.com.au/assets/console/gallery/images/JRWEBFLYER2.jpg)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/63/richmond_shop.html
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Well done to Jack. I've been very critical of him in the past but he's pulled his head in and let his football do the talking, so I now eat my words. :clapping
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The RFC site has a video of the best of Jack
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/101724/default.aspx
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Riewoldt win caps off fine season
Denis Bicer
September 3, 2010
COLEMAN medallist Jack Riewoldt credits Ben Cousins's guidance for his breakout season after he added another trophy to the cabinet - a Jack Dyer Medal for Richmond's best and fairest player.
The enigmatic forward, a cousin of St Kilda captain Nick, said Cousins had supported him and helped him become more team oriented.
''I suppose the big one is Ben Cousins, at the start of the year and what he had to say about goal celebrations, I thank Ben tremendously for doing that, he has helped me become more of a team player,'' Riewoldt said.
The young forward was ranked first in his club for tackles inside 50 (35) and score assists (15) this season and said he worked harder to bring his teammates into the game.
''This year I've tried to focus on pressure inside 50 and try to set up scoring opportunities for my teammates,'' he said.
Captain Chris Newman and Riewoldt were neck and neck for most of the night and it wasn't until the latter stages of the count that the full-forward gave himself a chance.
''I thought I had a fairly good year but I backed the skipper in the whole way … I was not nervous until around round 19 [of the count] and then I started shaking and didn't know what to do.
''When everyone stood up and started applauding I was a bit embarrassed, I didn't know how to accept it,'' Riewoldt said.
The 21-year-old becomes only the third key forward in 40 years, including Matthew Richardson and Royce Hart, to win the best and fairest award.
''Just to have my name up against guys like that is a great honour and something I'm treasuring still and will for the rest of my life,'' he said.
Riewoldt could add another accolade to the list on Monday week when the All-Australian team is named.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-win-caps-off-fine-season-20100902-14rmo.html
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Well done to Jack. I've been very critical of him in the past but he's pulled his head in and let his football do the talking, so I now eat my words. :clapping
Yes I was too. Two years ago I was sure that he was not going to make it and I believe that if he had of continued under Wallace he wouldn't have, we wouldn't have seen what we have seen with him this year. All the stars aligned for him mid season and has shown remarkable improvement just as so many others under the current coaching and development structure. There is one excellent element that nobody saw with Jack Reiwoldt and you can't see it because it isn't a physical attribute and that element is his ability to "think", he has a football brain, he is innovative, knows how to use his body, excellent at ground level, knows were to bring the ball to ground, can himself rove packs and has a magnificent pair of hands.
There's more than a few of us that got it wrong with this kid, but then again it's been decades since we have had anybody in the coaching ranks that had half an idea about developing a player (Northey the exception) I think a few of us just might have forgot that it was possible, well it is.
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Well done to Jack. I've been very critical of him in the past but he's pulled his head in and let his football do the talking, so I now eat my words. :clapping
Very classy post Julz many can learn from this type of post. Super stuff!
:gotigers
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When does Jack officially receive the Coleman medal? Is it during the All-Australian presentation?
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The Club now has out Jack Riewoldt memorabilia to celebrate his Coleman Medal ...
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/63/richmond_shop.html
From facebook
If you weren't at the Jack Dyer on Wednesday night, this piece of Jack Riewoldt Coleman Medal memorabilia was going nuts. It's signed and framed with a replica Coleman, and if you want to know more you can call the club on (03) 9426 4419 There's only 35 left!
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Funny how things change since the start of the season. 99% sure I heard Tim Watson doing the pregame and talking about the two key forwards at the end of each ground and said something like "For StKilda we have Jack... er Nick Riewoldt...."
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Funny how things change since the start of the season. 99% sure I heard Tim Watson doing the pregame and talking about the two key forwards at the end of each ground and said something like "For StKilda we have Jack... er Nick Riewoldt...."
Yep who would've thought at the start of the season when Richo retired that we'd have a future B&F, All-Australian and Coleman medallist on our list ready to replace him in the space of 6 months.
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Funny how things change since the start of the season. 99% sure I heard Tim Watson doing the pregame and talking about the two key forwards at the end of each ground and said something like "For StKilda we have Jack... er Nick Riewoldt...."
Yep who would've thought at the start of the season when Richo retired that we'd have a future B&F, All-Australian and Coleman medallist on our list ready to replace him in the space of 6 months.
most tackles in th AFL, inside forward 50 mid season also
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It doesn't matter as Jack already has won the Coleman but Hall has only kicked 2 tonight and has also been reported so Jack may end up with the most goals this season as well.
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I should be MVP
Check out this funny footy video with Jack Riewoldt, Drew Petrie and Sam Fisher.
http://player.video.news.com.au/heraldsun/#1585297942 (http://player.video.news.com.au/heraldsun/#1585297942)
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Their emotions are ugly and wrong. I need to scrub myself with solvo.
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that vid is painful
yr up early today owl?
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I don't really understand why Jack is doing that parody given he's arguably our MVP.
Save the mickey taking for the battlers.
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I don't really understand why Jack is doing that parody given he's arguably our MVP.
Save the mickey taking for the battlers.
Horrible vid, embarrassing for all players, and the AFL.
Our MVP?
He won our B&F? Lol.
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I don't really understand why Jack is doing that parody given he's arguably our MVP.
Save the mickey taking for the battlers.
Horrible vid, embarrassing for all players, and the AFL.
Our MVP?
He won our B&F? Lol.
hey heres a thought WGAF
lets all be robots shall we like Nathan Buckley and co.
It was meant as a joke. Whilst not funny who really cares i know i dont.
This game has very few personalities in the game and Jack R is one of those.
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Our MVP?
He won our B&F? Lol.
Yes I am aware of that believe it or not.
Is he our most valuable though?
More than Lids, Cotchin or Martin?
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Jack jumps into stratosphere
Adam Smith
The Mercury
September 08, 2010
EVEN for someone oozing the confidence of Jack Riewoldt, season 2010 far exceeded the expectations of Richmond's newest star.
In his fourth year at Punt Rd and his first without former superstar and fellow Tasmanian Matthew Richardson, a lot was left on the shoulders of a young man who many hoped could fill the shoes, but also believed might still be a few years away from peaking.
Richmond was favourite for the wooden spoon, and after nine rounds the Tigers were playing so badly they were being compared to the late Fitzroy of the mid-1990s.
Then something clicked for both Riewoldt and the club.
A breakthrough win against Port Adelaide at a drenched AAMI stadium gave rookie coach Damien Hardwick and a host of first year players their maiden wins.
Suddenly a newfound confidence was discovered, and a fortnight later Riewoldt booted 10.3 against a hapless West Coast at the MCG -- the first 10-goal haul in the AFL since Jonathan Brown snagged 10.1 against Carlton in 2007.
By the final round of roster matches, the 21-year-old had signed a new three-year deal believed to be between $500,000 and $550,000 a season, including incentive clauses, and he became the youngest player in AFL history to win the Coleman Medal.
He finished with 78 goals for the year. In 2009 he kicked 32 in 20 games.
Capping a stunning break-out campaign, last week Riewoldt was awarded the Jack Dyer Medal.
It was the first time in Tigers' history a player had claimed the club best and fairest and the AFL leading goalkicker award in the same season.
"It's slowly sinking in, after doing all the media stuff," Riewoldt told the Mercury of his whirlwind week.
"It's a great personal achievement but obviously the game is not about individual awards I would quite happily trade it in for more success as a team.
"If you go into a season thinking about trying to win individual awards ... it distracts a little bit from the team game.
"The main focus for me was to try and play well for the team and that will be the same focus for next year.
"I have done things I never would have expected in my wildest dreams. It's credit not only to the hard work I've done but a lot of the hard work the coaching staff have done with me.
"They worked out where my best position was and how to best play my opponent.
"These sort of awards are great to win but there are a lot of people behind the scenes who do a lot of hard work and have a lot of input."
Riewoldt edged out Richmond skipper Chris Newman for the Jack Dyer Medal, thanks largely to a mid-season purple patch of form.
Between rounds eight and 15 he kicked 43 goals the highest individual total in a consecutive eight-game period by an AFL player since Essendon's Matthew Lloyd in 2001.
The star forward also came in on top at the club for total marks (123), was No. 1 for contested marks (54) and No. 1 for marks inside-50 (79).
But now, after emerging from the shadow of Richardson to arguably be the club's newest cult figure, it is back to business for the fast-maturing sharp shooter.
Riewoldt knows that regardless of individual success, the team always has to come first.
"All we want to do is become a better team, learn more things we can put in place," he said.
"We have got the inner belief and we have got the guys who are signing new contracts and staying around.
"We have something special and it's great for the Richmond fans and great for the faithful who have been starved for success since 1980 really.
"Hopefully this group can take us forward to the next one [premiership].
"I will not try to eclipse what I have achieved this year, I'm just going to try and build to improve myself because I know I have a lot to learn in the football game.
"I can become a lot fitter and a lot stronger, I can become more professional."
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/09/08/171585_afl.html
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Matthew Lloyd talking about Jack (and James Frawley):
Melbourne's James Frawley and young Tiger Jack Riewoldt had two battles this season that whet the appetite for what will play out over the next decade. Riewoldt won the first battle, Frawley the second, but both had such consistent seasons they deserve to make their All-Australian debuts. The 22-year-olds have an aggression at the contest and a thirst for the game that has them as the most exciting key forward and back in our great game. Riewoldt is unstoppable when left one-on-one with his respective defender and is cat-like at ground level. Frawley is a ferocious competitor who conceded just 28 goals from 21 matches, but also has an attacking element to his game.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/set-the-stats-aside-and-feast-on-the-star-qualities-20100911-1560v.html
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Jack Riewoldt of Richmond poses for photos after being awarded the John Coleman Medal during the 2010 Four'N Twenty All Australian Awards at the Plenary Hall, Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Centre, Melbourne.
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:thumbsup :clapping
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got a bit of a Rocky Dennis look going on does Jack
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A revisit to 10 of the reasons why Jack won the Coleman :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHg5IYT-XIs&feature=youtu.be
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He might be our Coleman Medallist but our best public speaker he is most definitely not!
For all the talk and bravado that you see and hear of Jack around his mates, in the sheds and on the track, he was the ultimate 'shrinking violet' on Monday night. Couldn't look at the crowd or the interviewer to save his life - sanctuary was to be found staring down at the ground and stare down he did! I reckon he needed a visit to the chiropractor on Tuesday to put his neck back in place. Funny stuff and I bet he cops a ribbing from the boys.
:lol
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Jack jumps into elite company
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 14 Sep, 2010
Jack Riewoldt has become just the eighth Richmond player to achieve All-Australian status since the concept changed in 1991 with the introduction of the national competition.
Riewoldt, who was named full-forward in the 2010 All-Australian side at last night’s (September 13) award ceremony, joins Matthew Richardson (three-time representative), Wayne Campbell (dual representative), Darren Gaspar (dual), Joel Bowden (dual), Matthew Knights, Andy Kellaway and Brad Ottens on the Tigers’ All-Australian honor board of the past two decades.
At 21 years and 10 months, Riewoldt is Richmond’s youngest All-Australian representative since Ottens, who was 21 years and eight months when he was selected in the 2001 team.
Richardson was 21 years and six months when he gained All-Australian selection for the first time, in 1996, named on the interchange bench. Twelve years on, ‘Richo’ became the oldest Tiger All-Australian, when he was selected on the interchange bench in the 2008 side, at 33 years of age.
The full list of Richmond All-Australian players since 1991 is:
1995: Wayne Campbell (half-back)
1996: Matthew Richardson (interchange)
1998: Matthew Knights (wing)
1999: Matthew Richardson (forward pocket) and Wayne Campbell (interchange)
2000: Andrew Kellaway (back pocket) and Darren Gaspar (centre half-back)
2001: Darren Gaspar (back pocket) and Brad Ottens (forward pocket)
2005: Joel Bowden (half-back)
2006: Joel Bowden (centre half-back)
2008: Matthew Richardson (interchange)
2010: Jack Riewoldt (full forward)
Riewoldt also joins an illustrious group of players, who have earned All-Australian selection in the glamorous full-forward position since 1991.
That superstar spearhead list is:
1991: Tony Lockett
1992: Jason Dunstall
1993: Gary Ablett snr
1994: Gary Ablett snr
1995: Gary Ablett snr
1996: Tony Lockett
1997: Tony Modra
1998: Tony Lockett
1999: Matthew Lloyd
2000: Matthew Lloyd
2001: Matthew Lloyd
2002: David Neitz
2003: Matthew Lloyd
2004: Fraser Gehrig
2005: Barry Hall
2006: Brendan Fevola
2007: Matthew Pavlich
2008: Lance Franklin
2009: Brendan Fevola
2010: Jack Riewoldt
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/102588/default.aspx
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The Herald-Sun website is running a competition for performance of the year and you vote for which one you want out of 3 choices.
This week Jack is up against Buddy and Didak. So click on the link and vote for Jack :thumbsup.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/performance-of-the-week
Currently Jack leads with 48%. Buddy is on 35% and Didak 16%.
TOP PERFORMANCE REQUIRES TOP SKILLS
The season has come to a close and we want you to choose the Performance of the Season. Herald Sun expert Scott Gullan will name his three best performers from the 2010 season - whether it's a midfielder who had a severe case of leather poisoning, a defender who smothered his man or a forward who booted a big bag. Be in the running for $11,700 worth of prizes by voting for the one you think was the Herald Sun Performance of the Season.
1 Alan Didak
The best goal celebration of the year goes to the Collingwood star. After a typically freakish goal against Richmond in Round 17, Didak produced a theatrical shimmy, complete with an arrogant shrug of the shoulders. It was pure gold and naturally a couple of days later - after a quiet word from the coach - Didak was going out of his way to make it known there wouldn't be a repeat until Grand Final day.
2 Jack Riewoldt
This was the day ‘Jumpin' Jack stepped out of the shadow of his older cousin. The MCG was pumping as the Tigers spearhead put on a clinic in the opening quarter of the Round 12 game, kicking five goals against a hapless West Coast defence. From then on it was just a question of, ‘How many?'. It took until the midway through the last quarter before the new Richmond cult hero reached the magical 10.
3 Lance Franklin
It will forever be remembered as the night Buddy broke Cale Hooker. The sight of the Essendon defender doing his best ‘Hymie' impersonation as he attempted to chase the Hawthorn superstar along the members wing during the Round 13 game is one of the most memorable images of the season. Franklin went on to kick the goal from the boundary line and repeated the act a few minutes later - at least Hooker wasn't chasing this time - to give him two goal-of-the-year candidates.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/performance-of-the-week
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hucked my vote in to try and shore it up. Get in there folks, you might win a prize.
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Come on folks, get your votes in. The competition concludes on Tuesday 27 September, 2010
Jack is still winning with 47% but Freeklin is catching with 41%.
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In today's Herald Sun ......
Riewoldt all astray among the big guns
JACK Riewoldt has the Coleman Medal to prove he is the best sharp shooter in the league. But put a shotgun in his hand and it's a different story. The young Richmond full-forward couldn't hit the back of a barn from 20m away.
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Jack in good nick
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 16 Nov, 2010
The 2010 Jack Dyer Medallist and Coleman Medal winner, Jack Riewoldt, has undergone successful finger surgery and is expected to make a quick recovery.
“Jack injured the tendon in the little finger on his left hand during the season and, under normal circumstances, would have been operated on as soon as the season was over,” said Richmond’s Football Operations Manager, Ross Monaghan.
“But, given he had the opportunity to make the trip to Ireland with the Australian team for the International Rules Series, the surgery was postponed until after that.
“He’s had a good result from the surgery and he’ll do all the running at training, along with the majority of ball work in the next few weeks, before resuming full training post-Christmas.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105236/default.aspx
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Here's Jack talking about his draft experience
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/313887/default.aspx
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Jack picks up Richo’s passion
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Tue 28 Dec, 2010
Jack Riewoldt is emulating Matthew Richardson in more ways than taking big marks and kicking goals for Richmond.
‘Jumping Jack’ has inherited the Tiger passion that became such a ‘Richo’ trademark throughout his wonderful 17-season league career.
“Something I learnt from Richo is that if we can get as many guys as possible to start living and bleeding Yellow and Black, then we’re going to go somewhere special,” Riewoldt said in ‘The Fighting Tiger’ Year Book.
“It’s going to be special for this club and everyone involved with it, and all the supporters. And, there are going to be bigger stories than myself winning the Jack Dyer Medal, or the Coleman Medal . . . there’s going to be premiership success in the near future for the Club.”
And, Riewoldt is committed to doing whatever it takes to secure that 11th league premiership for the Tigers . . .
“I’m one of the bigger bodies in the side, so I like to do a lot of the grunt work for the team,” he said.
I try to work as hard as I can because I love the Club, and I love playing with the 21 other guys in the team each week.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/106547/default.aspx
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Jack Riewoldt Coleman Medalist Print is up for auction on the RFC website
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Jack's a good sport
Herald Sun
01-03-2011, Pg: 81
INJURED Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt is happy to show his allegiance to other sporting teams.
While his teammates took on Port Adelaide in Alice Springs, Riewoldt, wearing a Melbourne Rebels scarf, attended the chairman's dinner at AAMI Park on Friday...
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Richmond's young superstar Jack Riewoldt succeeds by just being himself
Mike Sheahan
Herald Sun
March 03, 2011
A SENIOR Richmond official was in earnest conversation on the phone with a Canberra bureaucrat on Tuesday when a missile whistled past his nose and into a wall of his office.
It was a miniature football kicked from the opposite corner of the general office and over a dozen work stations through the open door of the office of Simon Matthews, the club's general manager of media and stakeholder relations.
Matthews looked up to see the perpetrator cavorting as if he had just kicked the winning goal in a Grand Final, a huge grin on his face, arms raised in triumph, index fingers pointing skyward.
Jack Riewoldt being Jack Riewoldt.
He may be the latest addition to Richmond's leadership group of six, yet he remains a kid at heart.
They love him in administration at Punt Rd. He visits more than any other player, always yapping and smiling, generally up to mischief.
It's easy to believe, for that's the way he plays. With the unbridled spirit of youth, his heart on his sleeve. He loves playing football, flying for marks from any angle, kicking goals, celebrating those goals as if he were a European soccer striker.
He knows people can get the wrong impression, but says that's just him.
"I can come across that way because I love to play footy and I love to celebrate. Just generally love the club, the whole thing, and some people can take it the wrong way sometimes.
"I'm very loyal, very loyal to the club, so I'm very team-orientated, I know where I want the club to go.
"It frustrates you sometimes because you think, 'I'm not like that, I'm not trying to do whatever it is, that's just the way I am'.
"I was probably a little of the class clown at school (Rosny College, Hobart) and I love having a joke here (at the club)."
Riewoldt, 22, seems to have come a long way in a hurry.
His past two seasons have produced 110 goals from 42 games, an eighth in the best and fairest in 2009 and a win last year.
His 78 goals last year represented 32 per cent of Richmond's goals, 63 more than Andrew Collins, who was next best.
While his cousin, St Kilda captain Nick Riewoldt, runs his opponents into the ground, Jack likes to use his opponents as launching pads for his spectacular leap.
"It's something that I've always had in my footy. I love having fun and as long as we get the results that we want, I'll continue to play that way.
"The coach (Damien Hardwick) gives me a bit of leeway, but he's going to be the first bloke to pull me back into line if I stray from the path. I had the runner come out a few times last year.
"I enjoy taking risks. If I get a bit of licence, I'll take it. I'm not the greatest natural athlete; I'm not the strongest player in the league; I'm not the quickest player. I think I've just got an ability to fight for the ball and I have a love for the contest."
It was a skill nurtured in kick-to-kick at school, what he calls mark-and-jump.
He thinks he plays more like Hawthorn's Jarryd Roughead than his cousin. He has both of them covered for accuracy.
Jack converted at 66 per cent last year (78.39), a marked improvement on 32.27 in 2009.
It was a result of a tighter routine, lots of practice and the confidence that comes with success.
Unlike his counterparts at most other clubs, Riewoldt chose to do extra work last year on his tool of trade, both at Richmond and in private.
He would take 60-70 shots at goal once a week in a local park just to polish his routine. The conditioning staff might frown to learn he was doing the extra session, but the coaches - and Richmond supporters - would be happy.
The bread and butter kick, he says, is a set shot from 30-40m. He's had to teach himself not to kick the ball too hard.
"Putting it through post high looks good, but the reality is you've just got to get it there, post high or by 3cm.
"I just try to concentrate on the ball drop, get a good strike, kick to a spot behind the goals, a letter in an advertising sign. Even if it's a Peter Hudson mung (mongrel), they can still go through.
"Wouldn't mind kicking a torp, but I'm not sure how that would go down," he says with a wicked smile. I can't help thinking he will give it a try one day soon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-young-superstar-jack-riewoldt-succeeds-by-just-being-himself/story-e6frf9jf-1226014923194
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The day that almost ended the Tiger revival
By Mike Sheahan
Herald-Sun
Thurs 03 Mar 2011, Page 84
IT was a regulation marking contest in a training drill 10 days ago, a situation as natural for Jack Riewoldt as pulling on his footy boots.
This time, though, he landed awkwardly on his right knee.
Really awkwardly. To the point he feared dramatic consequences.
He had to be helped off Victoria Park, increasingly fearful of what the medicos might find in the rooms.
A scan revealed nothing more serious than bone bruising and Richmond's 2010 Coleman Medal winner will be ready to start the season on schedule against Carlton in front of an estimated 70,000 people under the MCG lights on March 24.
"It's coming along nicely," he told the Herald Sun yesterday.
"I must admit a few thoughts went through my head early on. No click or pop, but I remember thinking the body has done something it's not designed to do."
For the second time in little more than two years, a Riewoldt had survived a major knee scare.
Jack and his famous cousin, Nick, were having a kick on a Tasmanian beach at a family Christmas function in 2008 when the St Kilda skipper slipped and went to ground fearing the worst.
He suffered significant damage, but was nursed back to fitness without surgery.
"I was too quick for him and he slipped trying to get past me," the Richmond Riewoldt boasted yesterday.
The cousins are close and Jack relishes any opportunity to learn from Nick, on and off the field.
"I like to hear how he goes about it. I pick his brain a little bit; he's a pretty good player." Go on.
"I take the little bits of gold that he gives you. I'll talk to him a bit about how I play on a James Frawley or a Matty Scarlett.
He's got more stories, tried more things, got more tricks of the trade.
"He probably works as hard as anyone in the AFL. He's a great hit-up player. I like it when he catches it out in front of him, or runs back with the flight, like he did in that mark in Sydney a few years ago."
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The larrikin leader
By Jennifer Witham
6:52 PM Thu 03 Mar, 2011
GIVEN his occasional over-the-top celebrations and larrikin nature, Jack Riewoldt's elevation to Richmond's leadership group is something of a surprise.
On field, Jack's talent speaks for itself. He’s the reigning Coleman Medallist and he has become a new focus for Tiger fans in the post-Richo era.
He's played 68 games for 135 goals. All before he turned 22 in October last year.
As the goals flowed and the Dream Team points grew last year, inevitable attention was drawn to his flamboyant personality; his cheekiness, his assuredness, and his occasional recklessness.
Although you generally want your power forwards to come with a touch of arrogance, you don't want any sense of self-importance to dominate the mix.
At times in his career, it's been this aspect of Jack that's made people consider him immature and content with his own success, despite the Tigers' recent lean seasons.
Assessing the club's list at the end of the 2010 season, assistant coaches Danny Daly and Brendon Lade wrote this of their star full-forward on afl.com.au:
"Next year is a really important year for Jack. He's going to be really focused on by the opposition, so he's got to become a little more team-oriented and has to work a bit on his defensive side as well. But if we get anything like last year, we'll all be pretty happy."
For all that, there's another side to Riewoldt. He has an infectious personality that makes it easy to see why his teammates voted him into the leaders' forum.
Their move to do so could also prove to be a masterstroke in the development of a more rounded, more focused player.
I got to know Jack well during the 2010 International Rules tour of Ireland, both as an observer of how he interacted with his teammates and in a work sense, when he was commissioned before departure to write a diary of his experiences for afl.com.au.
Initially, Jack drove me mad. Quite seriously mad. He avoided me when he knew I was after him for an entry, he deliberately gave me clichés so he wouldn't have to think too hard when I caught him and he was constantly in a hurry to go and do something more interesting.
He was briefed before the trip on the diary's requirements and knew all too well there was a photo component involved.
When I asked him to send his happy snaps to my work email address, he informed me his camera was in his suitcase and he wasn't planning on it seeing the light of day.
By day three, I had decided Jack was full of himself, and that this was going to be a tedious project that would end in me commissioning someone to throw him into Dublin's River Liffey.
Then something changed. I'm not even sure what prompted the shift, other than perhaps Jack realised I wasn't trying to make him back page news.
Or maybe he just decided it was easier to chat every second day for five minutes - and pose for a few photos every now and then - than have me wait outside the lift before breakfast each morning.
I started to get to know Jack. He opened up and he even started having fun with the concept.
I realised he's a self-confessed class clown who loves being the centre of attention. A typical full-forward.
He's not malicious and doesn't put other people down in his attempt to stand in the spotlight. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite.
Jack's ability to laugh at himself is extraordinary. For someone so focussed with on-field success and perfection, his tendency to be first in line to make fun of himself is quite remarkable.
In Ireland, we spent a day and night at the six-star Dromoland Castle in County Clare. It was the players' first full day off while on tour and they were given the afternoon to enjoy the Castle's expansive list of activities.
A large group of players, spearheaded by Jack, headed straight down a path to the clay shooting range. What started as a relaxing afternoon of down time soon morphed into a rambunctious and vocal competition between half the squad over who could best wield a rifle.
Brad Green set the bar high with a perfect 10/10. After a spate of good-natured heckling towards his teammates as they less successfully took to the mound - Jack took his turn.
He missed every single shot, with the commentary from behind increasing in volume as each intact target sailed gently over the trees.
Jack, shattered with his result but intent to not let an opportunity pass for him to be the man of the moment, voiced every excuse in the book for his inaccuracy before conceding he was just no good with a gun.
Then, he challenged Brisbane’s Todd Banfield - who also failed to connect slug to pigeon - to a shoot off to see who was officially the worst shot in the team.
They went shot for shot, missing all until Jack's second last round. This time, something went right. He clipped the corner of the plate and finally sprayed the fragments of clay into a satisfying explosion.
It was like he'd kicked the winning goal in a Grand Final. Arms raised and pumping fists, Jack played his inadequacies up to his crowd like he would a soaring goal at the MCG on a Saturday.
Simply, Jack can be described by three 'Ls'.
Larrikin - the guy who paid an Irishman 50 Euro for his Ernie costume on Halloween so he could stand out more than a 195cm Aussie redhead otherwise would in a Dublin nightclub.
Labrador - the guy who chases the ball like there's no tomorrow, kicks it with the youthful enthusiasm of a 12-year-old and jumps on other players as though his life depends on marking it.
Loveable - the guy who lost half his International Rules kit before the end of the first week, who's great with kids at family days, who actually takes his off-field ambassadorial roles seriously and simply loves what he does.
These are the things that have made him an ideal candidate to lead the Tigers alongside captain Chris Newman, Nathan Foley, Daniel Jackson, Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin in 2011.
He's an atypical leader the young players of the club will relate to. When Jack gets serious - as he does whenever serious work is required - they'll know it will be time to knuckle down too.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/108751/default.aspx
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Jack has to be one of the best ever to readers of the flight of ball and knowing where and when to outposition his direct opponent one-on-one to create space where the ball will land. That 3rd qtr was freakish when we gave him plenty of supply and despite Carlton players flying to spoil the ball would still end up in Jack's mits everytime. If he was playing in the 80s when forward lines were left open he'd kick 150 in a season.
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If He were playing in the 40s he would kick 250 :cheers
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Love it when he makes the opposition look stupid. You could see it on his opponents faces that they had no idea how to stop him and were at a bit of a loss.
Particularly like it when he stands there with a couple of defenders and the ball's coming in. The defenders inexplicably fall over in a direction away from the ball leaving Jack to simply take the ball in his lap. Think he did it twice last night. How does he do that? :o
The only time he doesn't look like a chance is when he has 4 defenders all spoiling him, even then I wouldn't count him out. Pity supply dried up in the 4th quarter.
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How good is it to have a guy that seems like a sure thing kicking for goal inside 50.
He is an absolute freak, defenders have no idea against him, he doesn't use hands in the back and he keeps his feet in a contest while defenders fall over themselves.
If we can start getting 50+ I50's a match, Jack will kick more, but create plenty from just his dropped marks and creativity.
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If we can start getting 50+ I50's a match, Jack will kick more, but create plenty from just his dropped marks and creativity.
You're right wayne. It's great to have a forward that will create so well for other team mates even when he's basically out of a contest. He's always trying to bring the ball down to a crumber or tap the ball to advantage. How he manages to concentrate on marking the ball and have enough nous to know where his team mates are in the event that he doesn't take it I'll never know. His ability to keep his feet in a contest is exceptional.
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Will be better if we can develop Astbury or Griffiths and therefore a tall sticks with him and therefore one on Jack will add another dimension to our forward line and will create more chances in the forward line. Scary just thinking about it.
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Will be better if we can develop Astbury or Griffiths and therefore a tall sticks with him and therefore one on Jack will add another dimension to our forward line and will create more chances in the forward line. Scary just thinking about it.
Im not discounting Taylor from this little equation either at this stage of the proceedings. If he develops as we hope he'll be a handy goalkicker himself IMHO.
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Will be better if we can develop Astbury or Griffiths and therefore a tall sticks with him and therefore one on Jack will add another dimension to our forward line and will create more chances in the forward line. Scary just thinking about it.
Im not discounting Taylor from this little equation either at this stage of the proceedings. If he develops as we hope he'll be a handy goalkicker himself IMHO.
Plethora of options. We should have a small forward now. Jack is usually up against two or three in a contest surely that leaves someone without a man. We need someone like a Milne, Betts, Ballantyne type to kick those two or three cheap goals that opposition fans just love to hate.
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Will be better if we can develop Astbury or Griffiths and therefore a tall sticks with him and therefore one on Jack will add another dimension to our forward line and will create more chances in the forward line. Scary just thinking about it.
Im not discounting Taylor from this little equation either at this stage of the proceedings. If he develops as we hope he'll be a handy goalkicker himself IMHO.
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Plethora of options. We should have a small forward now. Jack is usually up against two or three in a contest surely that leaves someone without a man. We need someone like a Milne, Betts, Ballantyne type to kick those two or three cheap goals that opposition fans just love to hate.
This is where I believe Nahas can do his best work, let him work his butt off around Jacks feet and inside 50, where he can run, chase, tackle, harrass and blind turn all he likes and where it is impossible for him to take any more than one bounce....
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I've never seen a forward who is so efficent in front of goal. The only time he looks shaky is when he moves beyond 40. The only goal he missed was when he curled his normally staright run up in an effort to get more penetration on the kick. Griffiths and Taylor in the 50 would make our avenue to goal far more unpredictable but the rest of the team has such confidence in the fellow it is hard to avoid not targeting him :-\
Just an absolute star!
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Wayne Carey mk 2
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I think Jack is just about the most reliable kick for goal in the competition.
If its within 40 metres its a case of put down your glasses.
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I had this dream...Richo could kick like Jack does....ahhhh imagine how many more wins we might have had over the great man's carreer.
In all seriousness - I do not think there is a better reader of the play/flight of the ball better than Jack going around the AFL at the moment. Jack is truly an A grader. Would walk into any team in the comp.
His workrate last night was first rate.
His footy brain is exceptional. The Houli kick to the square in the dying seconds of the third...Jack let Astbury (I think ) go up for the mark with the carlton defenders and he just stood at the back of the pack and took the easiest of marks...and kicked his 6th. He was smart not trying to go up for the mark and just hold his ground.
Clever clever player is our Jack.
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Tigers, pause for thought on Ricky Nixon
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
March 26, 2011
RICKY Nixon needs all the friends he can get right now, and a big section of the AFL community should warmly embrace him.
Every single member of the Tiger army, perhaps the loudest and most passionate group in the game, has plenty to thank the besieged player agent for.
Nixon was sitting beside Jack Riewoldt when the blossoming superstar signed a contract extension last year.
More militant agents might have urged Riewoldt to wait, back himself and allow the huge offers from Greater Western Sydney to roll in.
But Riewoldt signed, more than a year ahead of schedule, with the blessing of Nixon, who believed Punt Rd was the best place to build his career.
If you look beyond the recent dumb acts, Nixon has made his share of smart calls in the past 15 years. If you're a Richmond fan, the Riewoldt call was pure genius.
Riewoldt deserves most of the credit for having the old-fashioned loyalty to re-sign early, for considerably less cash, but imagine the speculation right now if negotiations had been put on hold. He was due to come out of contract at the end of this season and it was timed perfectly for a GWS raid.
If GWS are prepared to pay a rumoured $5 million over five years for Melbourne's Tom Scully, what would Riewoldt be worth right now if he remained unsigned?
Riewoldt would be worth much more than Scully as the ideal GWS poster boy.
He even has Collingwood premiership players Scott Pendlebury and Dale Thomas, both still unsigned as GWS circles, comfortably covered as a potential marquee target.
It is far easier to find midfielders than power forwards and, if Riewoldt is not already in the top five players in the competition, it won't be long before he is in that company.
Anybody who watched his six-goal performance against Carlton on Thursday night would be convinced he is now an elite player. The heroics of 2010 and the Coleman Medal were not a one-off, as the cynics might have suggested.
If anything, Riewoldt remains underrated despite becoming the face of Richmond. Yes, he is that good.
So good that opponents get the shakes in one-on-one contests with him. Riewoldt has developed an aura that seems to put defenders under a spell.
His judgment of the ball's flight is uncanny. The pill just seems to fall into his arms no matter how congested the goalfront.
In an era when the long bomb forward is back in vogue, that skill is priceless.
Richmond had only 37 forward entries on Thursday night, but Riewoldt managed seven shots on goal.
And every Tiger fan watched with glee, knowing Riewoldt was safe until the end of 2013 and that GWS had been taken completely out of the frame.
Riewoldt signed what was basically a new three-year deal in August, with the Tigers re-writing the terms of this season and adding on two more years.
It is believed Riewoldt will earn between $500,000 and $550,000, plus incentive bonuses, through the term of the contract.
Had Riewoldt and his manager Nixon waited, they could have earned more than double that to head to Blacktown.
But in a huge victory for Richmond, and football in Victoria, the game's new superstar is going nowhere.
Perhaps Richmond should offer Nixon life membership to ease the pain of the two-year ban slapped on him by the accredited agents' board.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-pause-for-thought-on-ricky-nixon/story-fn7si05c-1226028310677
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Jack's flying start
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Mon 28 Mar, 2011
Jack Riewoldt’s six-goal haul, against Carlton in last night’s season-opener at the MCG, equalled the most goals scored by a Richmond player in a Round 1 match since 1994.
Riewoldt has now kicked six goals or more six times in his 69-game AFL career.
The full list of Richmond players, who have scored six goals or more in Round 1, is:
9 goals - Jack Titus v North Melbourne, Round 1, 1938 at Punt Road
8 goals - Jack Titus v Melbourne, Round 1, 1934 at Punt Road
8 goals - Brian Taylor v Fitzroy, 1982 at Waverley Park*
8 goals - Matthew Richardson v Footscray, Round 1, 1994 at Western Oval
7 goals - Michael Roach v Essendon, Round 1, 1985 at Windy Hill
7 goals - David Cloke v Carlton, Round 1, 1978 at MCG
7 goals - Allan Edwards v Carlton, Round 1, 1978 at MCG
7 goals - Bob Dummett v North Melbourne, Round 1, 1957 at Punt Road
7 goals - Ken Albiston v Footscray, Round 1, 1949 at Punt Road
7 goals - George Bayliss v Collingwood, Round 1, 1922 at Punt Road
6 goals - Jack Riewoldt v Carlton, Round 1, 2011 at MCG
6 goals - Matthew Richardson v Collingwood, Round 1, 2002 at MCG
6 goals - Matthew Richardson v Essendon, Round 1, 1996 at MCG
6 goals - Jeff Hogg v Melbourne, Round 1, 1988 at MCG
6 goals - Michael Roach v Melbourne, Round 1, 1986 at MCG
6 goals - Brian Taylor v Carlton, Round 1, 1983 at Princes Park
6 goals - Royce Hart v Essendon, Round 1, 1973 at Windy Hill
6 goals - Michael Roach v Carlton, Round 1, 1981 at Waverley Park
6 goals - Eric Moore v Fitzroy, Round 1, 1970 at the MCG
6 goals - Jack Dyer v South Melbourne, Round 1, 1948 at Lake Oval
6 goals - Dick Harris v Melbourne, Round 1, 1939 at MCG
6 goals - Jack Titus v St Kilda, Round 1, 1936 at Punt Road
6 goals - Jack Titus v Footscray, Round 1, 1935 at Western Oval
*Note that this game was initially a Round 2 fixture, which was switched to become the 1982 season-opener.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/110176/default.aspx
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I think Jack is just about the most reliable kick for goal in the competition.
If its within 40 metres its a case of put down your glasses.
gee i miss the days of the good commenators like heywood and cleland on th the abc and phrases like put down your glasses. thats great footy venacular not the garbage you get these on radio an tv.
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7 goals - David Cloke v Carlton, Round 1, 1978 at MCG
7 goals - Allan Edwards v Carlton, Round 1, 1978 at MCG
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Richmond 25.24 174 def Carlton 14.13 97. Now that would have been worth watching!!
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Walls tonight compared Jack to Peter Hudson because both were/are great readers of the flight of the ball and would often mark the ball without leaving the ground because of better judgement than their opponent. Now that's a big call! :o. Quartermain said that's like comparing Bradman to Andrew Hilditch (which is even a more ridiculous statement ::) ). Walls replied Jack is the reigning Coleman medalist and if he kicks 6 every week he'll be up there.
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Walls tonight compared Jack to Peter Hudson because both were/are great readers of the flight of the ball and would often mark the ball without leaving the ground because of better judgement than their opponent. Now that's a big call! :o. Quartermain said that's like comparing Bradman to Andrew Hilditch (which is even a more ridiculous statement ::) ). Walls replied Jack is the reigning Coleman medalist and if he kicks 6 every week he'll be up there.
Of course Quartermain would being a Hawthorn supporter. :wallywink
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Quartermain said that's like comparing Bradman to Andrew Hilditch
I agree, insulting to Jack to be compared to Hudson.
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Quartermain said that's like comparing Bradman to Andrew Hilditch
I agree, insulting to Jack to be compared to Hudson.
:lol
Hudson was exceptional but seriously Jack is right up there with many at reading the ball in the air.
BTW Quarters not sure I ever saw Huddo get off the ground like this..
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/06/05/1225875/839757-pn-new-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
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Jack's lost his Coleman favouritism with the bookies......
UNLUCKY JACK
Jack Riewoldt's bagel has seen Barry Hall and Lance Franklin become joint Coleman Medal favourites at $5 with TAB Sportsbet. The Tigers star is $6.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/suns-hot-favourite-for-spoon/story-e6frf9jf-1226033255921
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Jack's lost his Coleman favouritism with the bookies......
UNLUCKY JACK
Jack Riewoldt's bagel has seen Barry Hall and Lance Franklin become joint Coleman Medal favourites at $5 with TAB Sportsbet. The Tigers star is $6.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/suns-hot-favourite-for-spoon/story-e6frf9jf-1226033255921
Still excellent value, but I wonder what his odds were this time last year?
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I think Jack is just about the most reliable kick for goal in the competition.
If its within 40 metres its a case of put down your glasses.
gee i miss the days of the good commenators like heywood and cleland on th the abc and phrases like put down your glasses. thats great footy venacular not the garbage you get these on radio an tv.
For us younger blokes what is it suggesting?
Put down your beer glasses, he's a sure thing?
Put down your binoculars, no point watching he's a sure thing?
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For us younger blokes what is it suggesting?
Put down your beer glasses, he's a sure thing?
Put down your binoculars, no point watching he's a sure thing?
Bingo!
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Jack's lost his Coleman favouritism with the bookies......
UNLUCKY JACK
Jack Riewoldt's bagel has seen Barry Hall and Lance Franklin become joint Coleman Medal favourites at $5 with TAB Sportsbet. The Tigers star is $6.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/suns-hot-favourite-for-spoon/story-e6frf9jf-1226033255921
LOL. The bloke knocks himself out in the first 15 minutes of the game trying to take an absolutely ridiculous mark, and then he was not allowed back on the field so he couldn't add to his tally. What are they saying? He's going to be subbed of in the first quarter every week? He's only 1 goal behind the leader and he's only played 1 game. I'd say he's still a pretty good bet.
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Damien Hardwick vows to jump on Jack Riewoldt
Rod Nicholson
Sunday Herald Sun
April 10, 2011
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt needs to change his on-field demeanour and attitude - and coach Damien Hardwick will be telling him so this week.
Hardwick was less than impressed with Riewoldt's performance against Hawthorn at the MCG last night, in which he was seen yelling at a teammate and giving "the bird" to the Hawk bench when he left the field before halftime.
"(Attitude) is one aspect that Jack must work on," the coach said of the Coleman medallist.
"He has known that for two years now."
Hardwick said "full-forwards come under scrutiny and they are a bit of an easy target" but he seemed determined to draw a line with the dynamic goal-kicker.
"He was yelling at Dustin Martin at one stage and that (yelling at a teammate) is unacceptable. We will address that during the week," he said.
It has been a frustrating fortnight for Riewoldt, who last week was substituted after being concussed in the drawn match against St Kilda.
He protested demonstratively but later accepted he was in no condition to have played on.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-vows-to-jump-on-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frf9jf-1226036653356
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this is what happens when you hang around with bad company
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Dunstall urges Jack Riewoldt to rethink attitude
Mark Stevens
Herald Sun
April 10, 2011 11:11PM
AFL goalkicking great Jason Dunstall has warned Richmond full-forward Jack Riewoldt is in danger of being remembered for the wrong reasons.
After Riewoldt, 22, again allowed his emotions to spill over on Saturday night, Dunstall yesterday advised him to have a lengthy chat to former teammate Matthew Richardson.
Richardson, for all his heroics, is still remembered for breakouts of poor body language, and Dunstall said Riewoldt must act now to kick the bad habit.
"It is decision time now for the Richmond footy club and decision time for Jack Riewoldt," Dunstall said.
"The decision he has to make is, 'How I want to be remembered'. He could do a lot worse than have a good chat to Matty Richardson.
"I love the bloke (Richardson), but he was dogged by, particularly in his latter years, his body language on field ... how petulant it can look and the impact it has on your teammates.
"We saw some shocking cases from Richo and he'd be the first to admit it.
"Jack Riewoldt needs to make a decision very early on whether he needs to go down that path because you will become a maligned player."
Dunstall cut Riewoldt some slack for his actions on the bench in Round 2, when he argued with officials, because he was concussed.
But Dunstall made it clear on Triple M yesterday that there were no excuses for Riewoldt's actions on Saturday night, which included giving the "bird" to the Hawthorn bench.
"He's got to be better than that because he is a guy they are building their future on," Dunstall said.
"He could be a star in the game. You just don't need to do this rubbish."
Dunstall, who as Hawthorn football director worked closely with Richmond coach Damien Hardwick when he was an assistant at the Hawks, said he was sure Hardwick would now come down hard on last year's Coleman Medal winner.
"He'll hit Jack right between the eyes," Dunstall said.
He said he was confident Riewoldt would never repeat the performance after the hard-nosed Hardwick had finished with him.
Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse, who coached Riewoldt in the International Rules series in Ireland last year, yesterday described the Tiger spearhead as a "delightful kid".
However, speaking on SEN, Malthouse said poor body language could have a "profound effect" on other players.
Hardwick made it clear after the game on Saturday night that Riewoldt was out of line.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dunstall-urges-jack-riewoldt-to-rethink-attitude/story-e6frf9mx-1226036903956
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Jack Riewoldt is going to front the media at around 4:30pm today.
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this is what happens when you hang around with bad company
Please explain Tigermonk?
Jack thinks he is a "Superstar" now! Talking to goal umpires, opposition players ... having a go at his own team mates ...
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
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Richmond full forward Jack Riewoldt has been fined $1200 for his lewd gesture when coming off the field during the second quarter of the Tigers' loss to Hawthorn on Saturday night.
An early guilty plea would reduce the fine to $900.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111364/default.aspx
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Jack Riewoldt says sorry over 'bird'
Guy Hand
17:22 AEST Mon Apr 11 2011
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has apologised publicly for his on-field dummy spits during his side's big AFL loss to Hawthorn at the weekend.
Riewoldt has been fined by the match review panel for an obscene hand gesture he made as he came to the bench during the game at the MCG.
He was carpeted by Richmond coach Damien Hardwick and the club's leadership group - of which Riewoldt is a part - on Monday over that incident and a rant at teammate Dustin Martin as the Tigers slumped to a 63-point defeat.
The 22-year-old forward fronted a media conference on Monday to apologise, saying his passion and will to win had spilled over into unacceptable behaviour.
"I'm really disappointed personally in what's happened. I've let the club down, I've let my teammates down, and most importantly, I feel like I've let my family down and my close friends," Riewoldt said.
"I have great passion for this football club and this jumper and I have to be careful how I portray it. The hand gesture's probably the dumbest thing I've ever done.
"It's something I've got to work on."
Riewoldt has not been penalised by the club for his actions.
He suggested he would make an early guilty plea to the AFL on their charge over his hand gesture - in which he raised his middle finger towards the Hawthorn bench.
If he pleads guilty, that would mean an initial $1200 fine is reduced to $900.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8235653
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I can safely say his dummy spits during the game had nothing on those that occurred in my lounge room.
:police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police:
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A bit more from Jack.....
Riewoldt regrets 'dumbest thing'
By Luke Holmesby
5:24 PM Mon 11 Apr, 2011
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt has publically apologised for making an obscene gesture to the Hawthorn bench in last Saturday night's encounter between the two teams.
Riewoldt was fined $1200 for the gesture and was publicly criticised for it and for showing poor body language in the Tigers' loss.
He says it is among the "dumbest things" he has ever done.
"I would like to apologise to the public for my obscene hand gesture on Saturday night. I am really disappointed personally with what has happened. I know I have let the club down. I've let myself down, I've left my teammates down and most importantly I've let my family down and my close friends," Riewoldt said, reading from a prepared statement.
"I'm pretty shattered about what's happened and feel that it is totally out of my character."
Riewoldt said he would continue to wear his heart on his sleeve but admitted that he had to control his emotions with scrutiny on his every move.
"I have a great passion for this football club and a great love for this jumper. I have to be very careful about the way I portray it," he said.
"The hand gesture is probably the dumbest thing I've ever done, if not the dumbest thing I've ever done on national TV and I've got to be really careful about what I do and how I'm portrayed to the public and the media."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/111383/default.aspx
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
You are correct in some respects WAT but the very real risk in the club's reaction here is to allow a Richo MKII scenario. We all acknowledge that the great man was not as productive as he could have been over his career and is certainly not remembered for all the things a player of his calibre should have been because of sub-standard development and management in his younger days. Absolutely vital that the club gets it right this time.
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I can safely say his dummy spits during the game had nothing on those that occurred in my lounge room.
:police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police:
And now it is up to the leadership group of OER to decide how much you should be fined. If I can have some input.........a carton of VB payable at a Darwin location of my choosing on or around the 27th May should be ok. ;D
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make it coopers pale and I'll even help you empty the stubbies :cheers
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Bloody hell, $1200 and it wasn't even a full on bird. Who's on the MRP, Fred Nile and Bronwyn Bishop?
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make it coopers pale and I'll even help you empty the stubbies :cheers
Done.
Not my fave but free beer is free beer. My old man has a saying for it - all beer's good, just some's better than others. And free beer wins hands down every time! :cheers
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make it coopers pale and I'll even help you empty the stubbies :cheers
Done.
Not my fave but free beer is free beer. My old man has a saying for it - all beer's good, just some's better than others. And free beer wins hands down every time! :cheers
;D
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
You are correct in some respects WAT but the very real risk in the club's reaction here is to allow a Richo MKII scenario. We all acknowledge that the great man was not as productive as he could have been over his career and is certainly not remembered for all the things a player of his calibre should have been because of sub-standard development and management in his younger days. Absolutely vital that the club gets it right this time.
Agree totaly smokey, we do not want another player with the Richo attitude, so the club needs to sort it out now as they have done and we move on..
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Bloody hell, $1200 and it wasn't even a full on bird. Who's on the MRP, Fred Nile and Bronwyn Bishop?
Bronwyn would love a $1200 fingering
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Let me give you the tip, she'd be up for all 5 at once.
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outrageous that type of money for a finger salute, what the stuff is this world coming too. l know drink drivers who have crashed get less >:(
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
you dont serve it up to your teammates like that.
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
you dont serve it up to your teammates like that.
No you don't dead right, but the club will deal with it and move on.....I just don't think there is a need to get carried away with it and have it getting worse and still going on come Friday.
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I would probably give my team mates a serve too after the crap they dished up against the Hawks. Storm in a tea cup for mine. Sure he shouldn't have done it but he did, lets move on, give hime the naughty boy speach and get on with it.
We don't need to be dragging this rubbish into the Collinwood game.
you dont serve it up to your teammates like that.
No you don't dead right, but the club will deal with it and move on.....I just don't think there is a need to get carried away with it and have it getting worse and still going on come Friday.
exactly the club should deal with it & it should be kept in house & not released to the media. Thats what l expect from the RFC
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A bit more from Jack.....
Riewoldt regrets 'dumbest thing'
By Luke Holmesby
5:24 PM Mon 11 Apr, 2011
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt has publically apologised for making an obscene gesture to the Hawthorn bench in last Saturday night's encounter between the two teams.
Riewoldt was fined $1200 for the gesture and was publicly criticised for it and for showing poor body language in the Tigers' loss.
He says it is among the "dumbest things" he has ever done.
"I would like to apologise to the public for my obscene hand gesture on Saturday night. I am really disappointed personally with what has happened. I know I have let the club down. I've let myself down, I've left my teammates down and most importantly I've let my family down and my close friends," Riewoldt said, reading from a prepared statement.
"I'm pretty shattered about what's happened and feel that it is totally out of my character."
Riewoldt said he would continue to wear his heart on his sleeve but admitted that he had to control his emotions with scrutiny on his every move.
"I have a great passion for this football club and a great love for this jumper. I have to be very careful about the way I portray it," he said.
"The hand gesture is probably the dumbest thing I've ever done, if not the dumbest thing I've ever done on national TV and I've got to be really careful about what I do and how I'm portrayed to the public and the media."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/111383/default.aspx
Are you guys only able to put the first paragraph or two and then link off to the story?
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Bloody hell, $1200 and it wasn't even a full on bird. Who's on the MRP, Fred Nile and Bronwyn Bishop?
Bronwyn would love a $1200 fingering
Would help get the knots out of her hair. :thumbsup
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Are you guys only able to put the first paragraph or two and then link off to the story?
Noted & taken on board Mr RFC_O
Only part of the story was posted (perhaps half) we though that would be OK but we can reduce that down further for you :thumbsup
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Quartermain: "What would you say to Jack Riewoldt this week?"
Walls: "You're playing at centre half-back this week."
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wouldnot mind that, he probably play better than what we have down there at present. put Tuck at FF & Deledio on the ball where he should be
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Quartermain: "What would you say to Jack Riewoldt this week?"
Walls: "You're playing at centre half-back this week."
???
Walls is a moron and a hypocrite. Did he do that with Richo? :-\
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Quartermain: "What would you say to Jack Riewoldt this week?"
Walls: "You're playing at centre half-back this week."
???
Walls is a moron and a hypocrite. Did he do that with Richo? :-\
no wonder Walls didn't last long as a coach.
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IMO this reaction by the media to Jack giving the bird and especially his go at Dusty is way over the top and the cynic me sees it as an attempt to destabilise the side and Jack. Yeah he gave the bird when he shouldn't have and was silly to do so but just two weeks ago after kicking 6 goals he was our golden boy superstar yet; now after concussion the week before and in hindsight playing when he shouldn't have on Saturday night as he clearly wasn't right, he's according to the media got some serious behaviourial issue that need addressing ??? ::). Sorry but it seems those outside Richmond and particularly the media see an opportunity to get into Jack's head and create a story which doesn't exist. Jack just needs to focus on the footy and be answerable internally to the team. His attack on the footy last weekend like many of his teammates was substandard so that's what he needs to get back to this week. Worrying about and trying the appease external factors such as how the media perceive him and their claim his on-field attitude is "Richo-like" ::) is irrelevant to that objective.
As for Jack's "spat" with Dusty ... ummm I remember Hodge and Mitchell against us at 1/4 time in 2008 in a very heated discussion which the media made a big deal about yet the Hawks stood firm saying what's the big deal and 6 weeks later they all had a premiership medallion around their neck. In the heat of battle sometimes teammates have a go at each other. It happens all the time and as long as it doesn't linger beyond the moment then we really didn't need to drag Jack out in front of the media in the boardroom to publicly apologise to teammates when all this could and should have been handled in house. As a club you show a united what's the big deal front to the media and don't air your laundry in public. Now everytime we lose and Jack doesn't kick a bag, the media will focus on his on-field behaviour :sleep.
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IMO this reaction by the media to Jack giving the bird and especially his go at Dusty is way over the top and the cynic me sees it as an attempt to destabilise the side and Jack. Yeah he gave the bird when he shouldn't have and was silly to do so but just two weeks ago after kicking 6 goals he was our golden boy superstar yet; now after concussion the week before and in hindsight playing when he shouldn't have on Saturday night as he clearly wasn't right, he's according to the media got some serious behaviourial issue that need addressing ??? ::). Sorry but it seems those outside Richmond and particularly the media see an opportunity to get into Jack's head and create a story which doesn't exist. Jack just needs to focus on the footy and be answerable internally to the team. His attack on the footy last weekend like many of his teammates was substandard so that's what he needs to get back to this week. Worrying about and trying the appease external factors such as how the media perceive him and their claim his on-field attitude is "Richo-like" ::) is irrelevant to that objective.
As for Jack's "spat" with Dusty ... ummm I remember Hodge and Mitchell against us at 1/4 time in 2008 in a very heated discussion which the media made a big deal about yet the Hawks stood firm saying what's the big deal and 6 weeks later they all had a premiership medallion around their neck. In the heat of battle sometimes teammates have a go at each other. It happens all the time and as long as it doesn't linger beyond the moment then we really didn't need to drag Jack out in front of the media in the boardroom to publicly apologise to teammates when all this could and should have been handled in house. As a club you show a united what's the big deal front to the media and don't air your laundry in public. Now everytime we lose and Jack doesn't kick a bag, the media will focus on his on-field behaviour :sleep.
MT his problem goes beyond football. He needs some reprograming
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IMO this reaction by the media to Jack giving the bird and especially his go at Dusty is way over the top and the cynic me sees it as an attempt to destabilise the side and Jack. Yeah he gave the bird when he shouldn't have and was silly to do so but just two weeks ago after kicking 6 goals he was our golden boy superstar yet; now after concussion the week before and in hindsight playing when he shouldn't have on Saturday night as he clearly wasn't right, he's according to the media got some serious behaviourial issue that need addressing ??? ::). Sorry but it seems those outside Richmond and particularly the media see an opportunity to get into Jack's head and create a story which doesn't exist. Jack just needs to focus on the footy and be answerable internally to the team. His attack on the footy last weekend like many of his teammates was substandard so that's what he needs to get back to this week. Worrying about and trying the appease external factors such as how the media perceive him and their claim his on-field attitude is "Richo-like" ::) is irrelevant to that objective.
As for Jack's "spat" with Dusty ... ummm I remember Hodge and Mitchell against us at 1/4 time in 2008 in a very heated discussion which the media made a big deal about yet the Hawks stood firm saying what's the big deal and 6 weeks later they all had a premiership medallion around their neck. In the heat of battle sometimes teammates have a go at each other. It happens all the time and as long as it doesn't linger beyond the moment then we really didn't need to drag Jack out in front of the media in the boardroom to publicly apologise to teammates when all this could and should have been handled in house. As a club you show a united what's the big deal front to the media and don't air your laundry in public. Now everytime we lose and Jack doesn't kick a bag, the media will focus on his on-field behaviour :sleep.
MT his problem goes beyond football. He needs some reprograming
He didn't need reprogramming last season or after round 1 this year. His attitude as training is great and very team oriented getting the team talk up. He copped severe enough concussion the previous week which affected his sleep and in hindsight should've been rested on the weekend. It's pretty common for players to be affected the following week after suffering concussion. Jack clearly wasn't right on Saturday night.
As for lambasting teammates - well lucky I wasn't out there as I wouldn't have held back either after witnessing 3 hours of the braindead crap we were playing especially in the midfield. Sheesh how many times did a Richmond player think it was good enough to make one lame effort at the loose footy going to ground missing the ball completely and then watching his Hawthorn opponent pick the pill up and run away under no pressure :banghead. We just had no idea and no ability to handle those wet conditions.
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IMO this reaction by the media to Jack giving the bird and especially his go at Dusty is way over the top and the cynic me sees it as an attempt to destabilise the side and Jack. Yeah he gave the bird when he shouldn't have and was silly to do so but just two weeks ago after kicking 6 goals he was our golden boy superstar yet; now after concussion the week before and in hindsight playing when he shouldn't have on Saturday night as he clearly wasn't right, he's according to the media got some serious behaviourial issue that need addressing ??? ::). Sorry but it seems those outside Richmond and particularly the media see an opportunity to get into Jack's head and create a story which doesn't exist. Jack just needs to focus on the footy and be answerable internally to the team. His attack on the footy last weekend like many of his teammates was substandard so that's what he needs to get back to this week. Worrying about and trying the appease external factors such as how the media perceive him and their claim his on-field attitude is "Richo-like" ::) is irrelevant to that objective.
As for Jack's "spat" with Dusty ... ummm I remember Hodge and Mitchell against us at 1/4 time in 2008 in a very heated discussion which the media made a big deal about yet the Hawks stood firm saying what's the big deal and 6 weeks later they all had a premiership medallion around their neck. In the heat of battle sometimes teammates have a go at each other. It happens all the time and as long as it doesn't linger beyond the moment then we really didn't need to drag Jack out in front of the media in the boardroom to publicly apologise to teammates when all this could and should have been handled in house. As a club you show a united what's the big deal front to the media and don't air your laundry in public. Now everytime we lose and Jack doesn't kick a bag, the media will focus on his on-field behaviour :sleep.
MT his problem goes beyond football. He needs some reprograming
He didn't need reprogramming last season or after round 1 this year. His attitude as training is great and very team oriented getting the team talk up. He copped severe enough concussion the previous week which affected his sleep and in hindsight should've been rested on the weekend. It's pretty common for players to be affected the following week after suffering concussion. Jack clearly wasn't right on Saturday night.
As for lambasting teammates - well lucky I wasn't out there as I wouldn't have held back either after witnessing 3 hours of the braindead crap we were playing especially in the midfield. Sheesh how many times did a Richmond player think it was good enough to make one lame effort at the loose footy going to ground missing the ball completely and then watching his Hawthorn opponent pick the pill up and run away under no pressure :banghead. We just had no idea and no ability to handle those wet conditions.
mate why dont you just say Hawthorn were one of the best wet weather sides you seen in years cause that is simply what happened, they were that good
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IMO this reaction by the media to Jack giving the bird and especially his go at Dusty is way over the top and the cynic me sees it as an attempt to destabilise the side and Jack. Yeah he gave the bird when he shouldn't have and was silly to do so but just two weeks ago after kicking 6 goals he was our golden boy superstar yet; now after concussion the week before and in hindsight playing when he shouldn't have on Saturday night as he clearly wasn't right, he's according to the media got some serious behaviourial issue that need addressing ??? ::). Sorry but it seems those outside Richmond and particularly the media see an opportunity to get into Jack's head and create a story which doesn't exist. Jack just needs to focus on the footy and be answerable internally to the team. His attack on the footy last weekend like many of his teammates was substandard so that's what he needs to get back to this week. Worrying about and trying the appease external factors such as how the media perceive him and their claim his on-field attitude is "Richo-like" ::) is irrelevant to that objective.
As for Jack's "spat" with Dusty ... ummm I remember Hodge and Mitchell against us at 1/4 time in 2008 in a very heated discussion which the media made a big deal about yet the Hawks stood firm saying what's the big deal and 6 weeks later they all had a premiership medallion around their neck. In the heat of battle sometimes teammates have a go at each other. It happens all the time and as long as it doesn't linger beyond the moment then we really didn't need to drag Jack out in front of the media in the boardroom to publicly apologise to teammates when all this could and should have been handled in house. As a club you show a united what's the big deal front to the media and don't air your laundry in public. Now everytime we lose and Jack doesn't kick a bag, the media will focus on his on-field behaviour :sleep.
MT his problem goes beyond football. He needs some reprograming
He didn't need reprogramming last season or after round 1 this year. His attitude as training is great and very team oriented getting the team talk up. He copped severe enough concussion the previous week which affected his sleep and in hindsight should've been rested on the weekend. It's pretty common for players to be affected the following week after suffering concussion. Jack clearly wasn't right on Saturday night.
As for lambasting teammates - well lucky I wasn't out there as I wouldn't have held back either after witnessing 3 hours of the braindead crap we were playing especially in the midfield. Sheesh how many times did a Richmond player think it was good enough to make one lame effort at the loose footy going to ground missing the ball completely and then watching his Hawthorn opponent pick the pill up and run away under no pressure :banghead. We just had no idea and no ability to handle those wet conditions.
mate why dont you just say Hawthorn were one of the best wet weather sides you seen in years cause that is simply what happened, they were that good
They were good but their competition (us) wasn't much on Saturday night and us is all I care about.
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maybe we were a better side than we looked & l'm sure we were. Hawthorn were great. anyway lets hope we can do lots bnetter against the skunks & even go as far aas beating them toothless MF ;D Joffa is a sissy
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can't believe in this "modern era" you can blame your teammate's poor body language for your own game being poohouse
effing soft
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Richmond full-forward Jack Riewoldt has accepted a $900 fine for the lewd gesture he made when coming off the field during the second quarter of the Tigers' loss to Hawthorn on Saturday night.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111364/default.aspx
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I blame Ben Cousins for Jacks lewd and offensive gesture :P....some role model he turned out to be. ::)
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:lol
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Jack is fine.
The media is making a mountain out of a molehill.
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The whole thing is absolute crap.
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I blame Ben Cousins for Jacks lewd and offensive gesture :P....some role model he turned out to be. ::)
Hello someone is switched on in the house :shh
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Quartermain: "What would you say to Jack Riewoldt this week?"
Walls: "You're playing at centre half-back this week."
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lmao Walls - the idiot says the first thing that pops into his mind.
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more like the only thing that pops into his mind.
Read in todays paper that Mckenna had a go at Walls and his stupidity.
"Those people are uneducated who want to say things..."
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McKenna is a spud
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McKenna is a spud
Agree. Hasn't impressed me at all.
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McKenna is a spud
Agree. Hasn't impressed me at all.
Yep agree. He has had coaching experience at Collingwood and that seems to be the thing some clubs look at on applicants CV's whether they are really any good or not.
Mark Neeld will be the next bloke to get a coaching job.
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Don't change ways, Jack Riewoldt
From: Herald Sun
April 15, 2011
YOUNG Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt has been publicly castigated for his poor body language all week - but there's not a thing about him that Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse would change.
Malthouse, whose Magpies meet the Tigers at the MCG tonight, said it was important Riewoldt continued to play with passion and should not change to suit his critics.
The spearhead has remonstrated petulantly with his teammates and the club's medical staff for keeping him off the ground after a heavy knock this season, as well as giving "the finger" to the Hawthorn bench.
But Malthouse, who coached Riewoldt in last year's Australian tour of Ireland, said his approach to the game was too important to tinker with.
"He plays with his heart on his sleeve and I think Richmond and their supporters would be very disappointed if he doesn't play the way he does," Malthouse said.
"He's an emotional young kid who gets the best out of himself by the way he is.
"He certainly helped our side in Ireland, even though he didn't play particularly well.
"He was the one that in many regards was the gel that got us all together."
Malthouse said Collingwood would not set out to niggle Riewoldt over his headline-making behaviour tonight.
"I don't believe a lot in that stuff, and each to his own the way a player defends," he said.
"Chris Tarrant or Ben Reid or Nick Maxwell are all tall defenders and they'll play the way they should play against an opponent who is the Coleman medallist from last year."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dont-change-ways-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frf9jf-1226039348029
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What would malthouse know?
Jack needs to be turned into an all abiding robot!
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Im sure if Jack played at Collingwood he would be singing a very different tune.
I love it how everyone has an opinion. Dimma has said its no big deal so Malthouse should STFU and concentrate on his own club.
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I love it how everyone has an opinion. Dimma has said its no big deal so Malthouse should STFU and concentrate on his own club.
Should he?
Here's the current the coach of the reigning premier going into bat for the kid - supporting our player and indirectly backing our coach & club.
Would think his opinion would have more validity than some of the views of the media that have spewed forth this week
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I love it how everyone has an opinion. Dimma has said its no big deal so Malthouse should STFU and concentrate on his own club.
Should he?
Here's the current the coach of the reigning premier going into bat for the kid - supporting our player and indirectly backing our coach & club.
Would think his opinion would have more validity than some of the views of the media that have spewed forth this week
or of most of the posters on here as well
:lol
:outtahere
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Which differ to your point of you, how so?
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Point of you?
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Correction, point of 'view'. Damn iPhone autocorrect...
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On his best behaviour
By Mark Macgugan
Sat 16 Apr, 2011
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt emerged from an eventful week to kick four goals and keep his much talked about emotions in check during the Tigers' 71-point loss to Collingwood at the MCG on Friday night.
Riewoldt came in for criticism for his on-field behaviour during Richmond's heavy loss to Hawthorn last week.
Well beaten by Hawks defender Josh Gibson, the young full forward continually showed his frustration, gesturing angrily at teammates and giving "the finger" to the opposition bench.
The 2010 Coleman medallist, added to the Richmond leadership group this year, apologised for his actions on Monday but came in for further criticism from Robert Walls in The Age on Friday.
Richmond president Brendon Gale did the radio rounds pre-match, telling listeners the club was right behind its 22 year-old star.
"Jack is a very emotional, highly-competitive individual," Gale told 3AW.
"His behaviour over the last week … didn't affect the other players, who know he's a competitive being."
Nonetheless there was huge interest in how Riewoldt would respond on the field, and in a first half where he saw limited action due to Collingwood's dominance, he maintained a focused and positive approach.
At the 10-minute mark of the second term, Riewoldt could easily have boiled over when teammate Shane Edwards ignored his lead to have a shot on goal, only to miss.
He didn't.
Instead, he found his direct opponent, Chris Tarrant, and manned up before the ball was brought back into play.
A short time later, Riewoldt was penalised in a marking contest with Tarrant in front of goal in a decision that could very easily have gone his way.
Again, the Tigers fan favourite showed no signs of dissent, simply getting up and standing his mark.
That Riewoldt finished with four goals was testament to his willingness to persist, and some of his defensive work was also a feature.
"I thought he was good," Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said post-game.
"I thought he competed pretty well, chased, tackled, which is all the stuff we're after.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111787/default.aspx
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On his best behaviour
By Mark Macgugan
Sat 16 Apr, 2011
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt emerged from an eventful week to kick four goals and keep his much talked about emotions in check during the Tigers' 71-point loss to Collingwood at the MCG on Friday night.
Riewoldt came in for criticism for his on-field behaviour during Richmond's heavy loss to Hawthorn last week.
Well beaten by Hawks defender Josh Gibson, the young full forward continually showed his frustration, gesturing angrily at teammates and giving "the finger" to the opposition bench.
The 2010 Coleman medallist, added to the Richmond leadership group this year, apologised for his actions on Monday but came in for further criticism from Robert Walls in The Age on Friday.
Richmond president Brendon Gale did the radio rounds pre-match, telling listeners the club was right behind its 22 year-old star.
"Jack is a very emotional, highly-competitive individual," Gale told 3AW.
"His behaviour over the last week … didn't affect the other players, who know he's a competitive being."
Nonetheless there was huge interest in how Riewoldt would respond on the field, and in a first half where he saw limited action due to Collingwood's dominance, he maintained a focused and positive approach.
At the 10-minute mark of the second term, Riewoldt could easily have boiled over when teammate Shane Edwards ignored his lead to have a shot on goal, only to miss.
He didn't.
Instead, he found his direct opponent, Chris Tarrant, and manned up before the ball was brought back into play.
A short time later, Riewoldt was penalised in a marking contest with Tarrant in front of goal in a decision that could very easily have gone his way.
Again, the Tigers fan favourite showed no signs of dissent, simply getting up and standing his mark.
That Riewoldt finished with four goals was testament to his willingness to persist, and some of his defensive work was also a feature.
"I thought he was good," Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said post-game.
"I thought he competed pretty well, chased, tackled, which is all the stuff we're after.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111787/default.aspx
What a load of wank.
The media complain and say Jack thinks its all about Jack Riewoldt blah blah blah.
Well ge who hypes that rubbish up. The media. What a load of poo. Jack's minute by minute run down on his behaviour. What a great article.
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Media do this all the time - they set the agenda always.
absolute parasites
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Call it TFFS
Jack Riewoldt is the latest victim of Temperamental Full-Forward Syndrome
By Leigh Matthews
Wed 20 Apr, 2011
AS A KID living in the country, I was often told of the old wives' tale that if you were bitten by a blue-tongue lizard, the wound would never completely heal and would flare up every now and again.
After a bit of volatile theatre from reigning Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt last week I was reminded of this urban myth, because it has a football cousin in the form of the Temperamental Full-Forward Syndrome or TFFS.
Young Jack is just the latest victim of this disease which has afflicted many of the game's goalkickers, and history would tell us that he will never be completely cured, public apology or not - the symptoms of petulance and visible frustration will likely pop up again.
With the Riewoldt episode in mind we had a light-hearted discussion about TFFS last Saturday with the 3AW commentary team, which included former full-forwards Brian Taylor and Matthew Richardson, two players who would be automatic inclusions in the TFFS Hall of Fame.
And as much as we can joke about it, it's actually a very real thing. It is, in general, that goal-kickers are the game's highly-strung artists.
TFFS comes in different forms, and while it manifests itself in different ways with different players, there is an undeniable link to the high-pressure footy life of a deep forward.
Overt aggression towards opponents is one highly visible sign. Among the elite in this category we think of Tony Lockett, Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey, who all displayed occasional outbursts of TFFS symptom. And more recently, Barry Hall. True TFFS legends.
I've got to admit that in the latter part of my career, when I was playing predominantly at full-forward, I was myself an occasional victim of TFFS.
On that ill-fated day in June 1985 when, as a veteran player caught up in the frustration of not getting a kick I lashed out at Geelong's Neville Bruns, it was basically because of Temperamental Full-Forward Syndrome.
So what is TFFS?
Playing deep forward as a team's primary goalkicker is an extremely difficult task from an emotional perspective, especially in a struggling side.
Why? Because the ball only comes into your area if your teammates have won it up the field, and because you've got an opponent hanging off you all day whose primary focus is more to stop you than to try to win the ball himself.
If things are not going well it's easy to get frustrated and anxious, and as much as the coach will urge them to contribute to their team through competing, chasing, tackling and harassing, full-forwards are measured essentially by how many goals they kick.
Sometimes the result of this undeniable pressure and frustration is an outward show of petulance or surliness. Sometimes it's that outburst of physical aggression.
Jonathan Brown had that latter TFFS symptom in his early days, but maturity seems to have him completely cured.
Other full-forwards have been known to exhibit a different strand of TFFS simply by being laws unto themselves - like Warwick Capper, Allen Jakovich, Mark Jackson and Brendan Fevola, who will be remembered by many for their headline-grabbing antics rather than their football prowess.
And while coaches may not always appreciate their individualistic behavior, they are invariably adored by fans who love their spectacular goalkicking feats - always tinged with the unpredictable intrigue of knowing that their TFFS could bubble to the surface at any time.
Of course there is always an exception seemingly overloaded with TFFS anti-bodies, like the great Jason Dunstall, who was the most controlled and seemingly unemotional full-forward you've ever seen.
TFFS is often the reason a player, like Riewoldt, will wear his heart on his sleeve and have that ticking time-bomb look about him.
The Richmond full-forward is still coming to grips with the emotional pressure of life as the predominant goalkicker in a struggling team and hopefully his mild case of TFFS is something he will leave behind with experience.
While we might debate where BT and Richo sit in the TFFS Hall of Fame, there's no denying the evidence that supports membership for both.
We've all seen that often-replayed TV footage of BT vehemently arguing with the umpire, and I recall the occasion when Richo was suspended by Richmond over his poor on-field demeanor and body language.
As the opposition Brisbane Lions coach the following week I was overjoyed to see a fully fit Richo sitting in the grandstand.
These days I share various media roles with the 13-time Richmond leading goalkicker and hasten to add that he's one of the nicest people you could hope to meet. His TFFS only ever raised its head on the inside of the white line.
But there's no denying that both he and Taylor had that TFFS tendency.
And the more I think of it, my two 3AW colleagues should very definitely be classed as true TFFS HOF legends.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112053/default.aspx
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The AFL needs to take about 50% of there accreditations away from media who have them. The amount of media types looking for rubbish stories has grown exponentially. AFL Footy doesnt need all the crap journos. It should get rid of them IMHO and slashing the accreditations should be the first step. This whole JR stuff is just garbage, has been from the start.
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this is what happens when u get a billion dollars in tv/media rights - comes with the territory
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agree, needs to be more stories on prince william's bird and her pyramid vibrator
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Now that's one secret chamber I wouldnt mind uncovering :rollin
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Riewoldt shares the love at Richmond
Greg Buckle
Ninemsn
21:57 AEST Sun Apr 24 2011
His body language and clashes with opponents and even team-mates have brought Jack Riewoldt's attitude into question this season.
However Richmond's star forward bagged five goals and took a series of sensational high marks in his side's nine-point win over North Melbourne in their round-five AFL clash at Etihad Stadium on Saturday.
But it wasn't these mere numbers that brought a smile to Tigers coach Damien Hardwick's face.
It was the 22-year-old forward's willingness to share the love with his team-mates, a far cry from the poor body language he displayed two weeks ago against Hawthorn, which prompted heavy criticism and drew comparisons with some of the petulant displays of Tigers great Matthew Richardson.
Riewoldt was credited with three scoring assists on the stats sheet and Hardwick says the 2010 Coleman Medallist is changing his game for the better.
"It's something he's worked on and it's starting to pay dividends," Hardwick said.
"We want to reward your team-mates. A goal assist is as good as a goal as far as we are concerned.
"He probably gave away two or three which is a good result for Jack and it shows that his head is in the right spot, team-first footy.
"And what goes around comes around. Someone will reward him at some stage as well."
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8240858
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Another top grab from Jack last night :thumbsup. I love how he had a quick sneaky look at the replay of the mark on the scoreboard while lining up before calmly slots it through ;D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=423ekvyzvwQ&feature=player_embedded
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He had to goal it after admiring the replay.
would have copped buckets of flack otherwise
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(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/228198.jpg)
Nice of his opponent to steady him like that :thumbsup
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(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/228198.jpg)
Nice of his opponent to steady him like that :thumbsup
Hardly, he went down like a sack of crap
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Nice of his opponent to steady him like that :thumbsup
Hardly, he went down like a sack of crap
I was thinking more about the guy holding his bum. ;D
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Nice of his opponent to steady him like that :thumbsup
Hardly, he went down like a sack of crap
I was thinking more about the guy holding his bum. ;D
Oh I see it now, Grima actually looks like he's giving Jack a "Hopoate" with his left hand
Should be illegal, I hope the AFL come out and change the rules in the off season to say you can't push a player in the buttocks like that
When it happens people in the crowd can yell out "In the ass!!!"
Good to see Jack is at the top of the coleman leaderboard, even with two quiet games. Will be interesting to see how many Franklin kicks against Geelong tomorrow.
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Jack now only 2 goals behind Franklin in the Coleman.
Franklin (Haw) 18
J.Riewoldt (Rich) 16
Cloke (Coll) 15
Dawes (Coll) 13
J.Garlett (Carl) 12
T.Walker (Adel) 12
Jurrah (Melb) 12
Roughead (Haw) 11
Blair (Coll) 11
A.Walker (Carl) 11
Bradley (Freo) 11
B.Hall (WB) 10
S.Burgoyne (Haw) 10
D.Martin (Rich) 9
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12 this Saturday night would be nice ;D
It will give him a bit of breathing room at the top.
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12 this Saturday night would be nice ;D
It will give him a bit of breathing room at the top.
Will be a tough ask on Merritt who has been playing well
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Nice of his opponent to steady him like that :thumbsup
only time Grima made body contact all night ;D
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Jack's ALPHA magazine interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igolr10hTSg
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Jack and Franklin are now equal favourites for the Coleman with the bookies.
J.Riewoldt 21
Franklin 18
Cloke 16
Dawes 14
Garlett 14
A.Walker 13
T.Walker 13
...
J.King 11
Martin 10
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Jack and Franklin are now equal favourites for the Coleman with the bookies.
J.Riewoldt 21
Franklin 18
Cloke 16
Dawes 14
Garlett 14
A.Walker 13
T.Walker 13
...
J.King 11
Martin 10
How much better does that look after 5 rounds compared to Round 22 2010 when Andy Collins was 2nd on our goalkicking list with 15.
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Great isn't it, King has really stepped up this year.
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In praise of players with personality
BigPond Sport
By Nick Place
Wednesday, May 04, 2011
The scene is Saturday night at a rocking MCG, moments after Richmond has recorded its second win in a row - a significant achievement at any time for this rebuilding bunch of Tigers.
The team might be edging towards football respectability at last, but not so much that ever-loyal supporters take for granted the chance to sing that brilliant anthem. In the stands, the fans are in full voice.
The players, understandably spent, stagger towards the centre circle, having shaken hands with their Lion opponents. The Tigers can barely lift their legs. Yet as the famous song reaches its crescendo, one player raises his left arm to the sky and pumps it in time with the words. YELLOW (fist pump) and BLACK! (fist pump).
You already know it's got to be Jack Riewoldt.
Just a small moment, but so telling. Jack connected to the fans, even as he walks to join his teammates. Jack revelling in that song, living in the moment, sharing his joy.
Jack's emotion is so much a part of the package that the Tigers love. This is a guy who has been known before the bounce to wish goal umpires a good game. This is a player who would give his slightly better-known cousin, Nick, plenty of stick before he had any right to. Richmond figured early that this was just the nature of the kid, that he needed to be an extrovert. And that this was a great trait for what had been a very quiet, meek, unsuccessful team.
A large part of Richmond's improvement is the willingness of Jack, Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin, among others, to back themselves; to believe.
During the kerfuffle earlier this year about Riewoldt's body language and supposed criticism of teammates, I could only think of how I wished my team had another 21 on the field who demonstrably cared so much. It's why Tiger fans also love Jake ‘Push-ups’ King.
Same with Matthew Richardson, Richmond's previous star with a personality so big the forward line could barely contain it. How can you not want your players to be so passionate for the jumper?
I love characters in football, yet every time one sticks his head up, earnest media and former-players-turned-commentators can't get in line fast enough to 'tut-tut'.
Even off the park, we secretly hate personality in our stars; I have no idea why. Remember Geelong's James Kelly pretending to be asleep as the camera panned around the Cats singing their club song after a win a year ago? Oh dear, what a sign of a terrible culture at Kardinia Park … arrogance, superiority … or, hang on, a funny sight gag.
All those ex-players now sitting in judgment should know better than most that the televised singing of the song in the rooms is a contractual obligation, and part of the existing TV deal. I kid you not.
What about when Aker was a good bloke, without the post-career need to be controversial and, well, shrill? His post-victory handstands in the Lions' glory years were fantastic.
And Collingwood appears to have no qualms about allowing Harry O a personality, thanks to his mastery of his Twitter account and comments such as he'd be happy to meet Barack Obama if he ever came to town. I also miss the old Tadhg Kennelly, along with stunts like his brilliant impromptu riverdance on the premiership podium.
I say we celebrate Jack Riewoldt and his like, even if they do occasionally wave arms at a teammate who has screwed up once too often. You can bet that when that teammate gets it right, Jack will be the first one there to celebrate with him. And celebrate loud.
I'd much rather watch that than a gaggle of robots in yellow sashes.
http://www.bigpondsport.com/in-praise-of-players-with-personality/tabid/91/newsid/70983/default.aspx
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Jack's degree of difficulty with his speccies is going a bit over the top ;D :wallywink
(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/229756.jpg)
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Funny
http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/352313/riewoldt+falls+hard/Default.aspx
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Funny
http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/352313/riewoldt+falls+hard/Default.aspx
He could have knocked himself out twice in a month with that horizontal bodyslam landing :wallywink.
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Jack's degree of difficulty with his speccies is going a bit over the top ;D :wallywink
(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/229756.jpg)
Love his expression. "Ohhhhh ... poo" (of course I didn't type poo)
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Jack's degree of difficulty with his speccies is going a bit over the top ;D :wallywink
(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/229756.jpg)
Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
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Its heart in mouth stuff when you see him flying like that.
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Jack's degree of difficulty with his speccies is going a bit over the top ;D :wallywink
(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/229756.jpg)
Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
He was pushed/tunnelled
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Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
He was pushed/tunnelled
Someone mentioned that to me after the game, having watched it a couple of times I reckon he got a lit shove but I wouldn't call it being "tunnelled" but it is subjective I suppose
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unless he was trying to kick the ball in mid air he got a shove!
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Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
I wouldnt be telling Jack Riewoldt to stop flying for marks.
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Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
I wouldnt be telling Jack Riewoldt to stop flying for marks.
Not telling him not to fly for marks but he doesn't need to try and take speccy every Tiger entry into the F50. Would actually like to see him lead up a bit more at times
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Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
I wouldnt be telling Jack Riewoldt to stop flying for marks.
true and at times he does but thats millers role and forte, jack thrives on one on one body contact
Not telling him not to fly for marks but he doesn't need to try and take speccy every Tiger entry into the F50. Would actually like to see him lead up a bit more at times
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Agree it was a little ambitious but its how he plays, it's like telling Houli to stop kicking balls 60m incase he rips his hammy. Or Dusty stop "don't arguing" incase he pops his shoulder.
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Hate to rain on people's parades but it was a bloody stupid thing to do to be honest no need to be trying to take mark of the century ever week... could have suffered a very nasty injury
Don't see why that's raining on peoples parade. Jack plays football in an instictual way. Perhaps you may want to get him to consider his self preservation a bit more but you wouldn't want to change him surley? He's one of the few footballers I have seen that can read when he's not going to complete whatever he's attempting and if he isn't he changes tack and makes sure the ball goes to our advantage. Great footballer, very spectacular, clever, the sort of character the game needs.
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guys this guy is an aboslute gun..yes he's a bit rough round the edges ,,but frankly i dont care ...i have a feeling that in years to come he might end up being one of our all time greats....sheesh hope i havent put the mozz on him
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Sort of agree and im sure Dimma would be bringing it up with him. We need him on the park, not at the Epworth with Hutchy and Barret hiding in the bins.
That being said he is one of the smartest footballers going around. I loved his quick left kick off the mark in the middle of the ground resulting in a goal.
He is a very smart footballer and his kicking is exceptional.
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Sort of agree and im sure Dimma would be bringing it up with him. We need him on the park, not at the Epworth with Hutchy and Barret hiding in the bins.
That being said he is one of the smartest footballers going around. I loved his quick left kick off the mark in the middle of the ground resulting in a goal.
He is a very smart footballer and his kicking is exceptional.
magic wasnt it? also got away a left foot pass while being tackled that resulted in a goal too.
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He also passed to Kingy for a goal as well, so he kicked 4 and set up 3 that we can remember at the moment, great game! ;)
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I thought his goal assists were the most impressive aspect of his game on the weekend.
He was pretty much being well held but he still managed to help the others kick goals. The left foot kick whilst being tackled was a beauty.
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I thought his goal assists were the most impressive aspect of his game on the weekend.
He was pretty much being well held but he still managed to help the others kick goals. The left foot kick whilst being tackled was a beauty.
his goal assists have been very impressive in the past few weeks. Very smart player - elite footballer and best key forward in the comp by seasons end.
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elite footballer and best key forward in the comp by seasons end.
already is, as far as im concerned.
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Jack's got new wheels this week...
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=at3iv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/gyat3ivj
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Not sure if it was the new boots or getting annoyed at what going on up the field but Jack seemed very frustrated out there today and not his usual self. It probably says heaps about his natural talent that the last two weeks he can be well held by his direct opponent yet still yeak out 4 goals in both games to continue to lead the Coleman medal.
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Not sure if it was the new boots or getting annoyed at what going on up the field but Jack seemed very frustrated out there today and not his usual self. It probably says heaps about his natural talent that the last two weeks he can be well held by his direct opponent yet still yeak out 4 goals in both games to continue to lead the Coleman medal.
Very heavy checking on Jack the last two weeks, MT. Umps not the least interested.
As well as having his run at the ball blocked, he's getting manhandled in the contest and a fair bit of arm chopping.
Needs to get on his bike and play hit-up for a week or so.
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needs to stop looking for fees imo and go harder at the ball (https://imageshackau.com/sports/52/b/happy.gif)(https://imageshackau.com/sports/123/b/happy.gif)
(https://imageshackau.com/sports/131/b/happy.gif)(https://imageshackau.com/sports/133/b/happy.gif)(https://imageshackau.com/sports/134/b/happy.gif)
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Not sure if it was the new boots or getting annoyed at what going on up the field but Jack seemed very frustrated out there today and not his usual self. It probably says heaps about his natural talent that the last two weeks he can be well held by his direct opponent yet still yeak out 4 goals in both games to continue to lead the Coleman medal.
Very heavy checking on Jack the last two weeks, MT. Umps not the least interested.
As well as having his run at the ball blocked, he's getting manhandled in the contest and a fair bit of arm chopping.
Needs to get on his bike and play hit-up for a week or so.
So difficult to play a lead up forward now days muscles. With all the zones, floods and opposition in defense there is little room/space to lead into anymore which is why the tall marking forward so now so important. Unfortunely for Jack (and us!), opposition teams are now putting two players on him - one to wrestle and the other to block his run or effect a spoil. Makes his job all the more difficult and why the development/role of Vickery, Miller and eventually Griffiths is so important to create forward targets and take the focus off Jack. Jack's role this year is as much about bringing the ball to ground for our crumbers and creating the pressure required to cause spills or keep the ball locked in the F50.
Very difficult for tall forwards now days
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he is being tunneled every game as well. The league need to look into it.
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he is being tunneled every game as well. The league need to look into it.
effin oath
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I know Jack is still kicking his 3-4 goals each week which means he is still doing his job but for mine he's been well held in recent weeks by his direct opponent. Not sure if it is because of the slight injury/niggle he is carrying or the fact we were one-dimensional and predictable last night in going to him more often and not and opposition clubs double teaming him. Two of his three goals came in junk time late in the game IIRC. If it's a niggle then the bye has come at a good time.
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I reckon Jack is getting caught up in the old Carey syndrome of getting sucked into one on one wrestles instead of leading.
It might be because of his calf, but it is certainly not because of defensive pressure as there were a couple of times last night when Martin had it on a quick transition and Jack still sat at the top of the square and called for the bomb, despite having room inside 50 to lead.
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I reckon Jack is getting caught up in the old Carey syndrome of getting sucked into one on one wrestles instead of leading.
It might be because of his calf, but it is certainly not because of defensive pressure as there were a couple of times last night when Martin had it on a quick transition and Jack still sat at the top of the square and called for the bomb, despite having room inside 50 to lead.
Totally agree. Jack has not been that lead up forward of last year the last month. He has stayed at home to much and just wants the ball to be bombed long to him. But the worst thing is, he is not even jumping at it anymore. Last year and earlier this year he was flying for everything and i was critical of that at the time but now he resuses to lead. The Bulldogs game was the worst. Many times he had opportunities to get on this bike and lead but preferred to stay close to the goal square and try and crumb goals. The fact that he has been kicking his 3 and 4 crumbing goals has hidden the fact he is terribly out of form. IMO over the next two weeks with the bye in there, Dimma needs to reprogramme him into leading up, either marking or making a contest so the like of Nahas and King can do their jobs.
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have thought for awhile now he doesnt get involved enough. reckon the fact hes manged to scrap a few goals each week has covered over areas he needs to put a fair bit of work into.
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his form is just Jreadful at the moment...only goals he kicks are the chepies that should be the icing on the cake...where are his stock and trade FF goals... ???
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Despite everyone raving about Buddy's form, Jack, even out of form, is still leading the Coleman...
J.Riewoldt 36
L.Franklin 35
J.Kennedy 29
L.Jurrah 22
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You'd expect Buddy to overtake him now we have the bye
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You'd expect Buddy to overtake him now we have the bye
If Buddy has a run of 4-5 games where he actually kicks straight, he'll put a lot of distance between himself and Jack.
He has kicked 35.34 :o
Jack 36.9
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Have to agree with everyone here. Jack just looks completely out of form. I'm not sure if it is an injury, lack of confidence or perhaps learning a new forward set up directed by the coaches but he doesn't look the player he was only a year past dispite leading the Coleman. Perhpas he has been asked to stay in and around the goalsquare to leave room for Vickery, Miller and the misquito fleet room to lead and crumb?
Whatever the reason I hope the break gives him the time to rediscover what made him the star of the league last year - his leap and contested marking.
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I reckon Jack is getting caught up in the old Carey syndrome of getting sucked into one on one wrestles instead of leading.
It might be because of his calf, but it is certainly not because of defensive pressure as there were a couple of times last night when Martin had it on a quick transition and Jack still sat at the top of the square and called for the bomb, despite having room inside 50 to lead.
Totally agree. Jack has not been that lead up forward of last year the last month. He has stayed at home to much and just wants the ball to be bombed long to him. But the worst thing is, he is not even jumping at it anymore. Last year and earlier this year he was flying for everything and i was critical of that at the time but now he resuses to lead. The Bulldogs game was the worst. Many times he had opportunities to get on this bike and lead but preferred to stay close to the goal square and try and crumb goals. The fact that he has been kicking his 3 and 4 crumbing goals has hidden the fact he is terribly out of form. IMO over the next two weeks with the bye in there, Dimma needs to reprogramme him into leading up, either marking or making a contest so the like of Nahas and King can do their jobs.
Agree with this BT. Didn't Jack have a finger op over preseason? I wonder if that is also having an effect on his confidence with leading on top of the niggle in his calf.
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Jack looked good the other week when he was released and played up forward a bit more.
I actually thought they should have tried that last week in Darwin
Should have moved Miller to the goal square and used Jack up as the lead up HF.
The other problem we had on Sat was Vickery had a poor game, looked like he had lead in his legs :P
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I think people are being overly critical of Jack here.
To me his role has changed slightly, as Hardwick indicated it would at the start of the year.
He is after still the leading goal kicker in the league, despite often playing a foil type role to allow the other forwards space.
Not only is he kicking goals he is also creating goals for other players, directly and indirectly.
The bottom line is that we have a bigger spread of goal kickers and more importantly are kicking more goals, as a team
(Didnt he kick most of his goals from one on one contests last year, rather than a lead up type role?)
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(Didnt he kick most of his goals from one on one contests last year, rather than a lead up type role?)
It would be interesting to see the stats on that.
My impression was that last year the mix was more like 70-30 one on one to leads.
This year I feel like it is 95-5.
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The other problem we had on Sat was Vickery had a poor game, looked like he had lead in his legs :P
And he had a large number of mates looking the same WP.
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(Didnt he kick most of his goals from one on one contests last year, rather than a lead up type role?)
It would be interesting to see the stats on that.
My impression was that last year the mix was more like 70-30 one on one to leads.
This year I feel like it is 95-5.
It does the one that stands out for me on the lead was the pass from Nahas in the Dreamtime game most others have been snaps from open play or pack/one on one type marks, oh and the one against BrisVegas in the last quarter when he slipped after playing on only to recover and kick it with Merrett chasing in vain.
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Buddy will miss tomorrow and possibly next week with a calf injury. So Jack will still lead the Coleman after our bye.
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Buddy will miss tomorrow and possibly next week with a calf injury. So Jack will still lead the Coleman after our bye.
Good for Jack bad for my Supercoach
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The Coleman is now a 3-horse race thanks to Josh Kennedy's form...
J.Riewoldt 36
L.Franklin 35
J.Kennedy 33
then a gap to
L.Jurrah 25
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Has Kennedy played an extra game compared to Buddy and Jack? I don't count the St Kilda game for Jack and Buddy didn't play on the weekend.
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Has Kennedy played an extra game compared to Buddy and Jack? I don't count the St Kilda game for Jack and Buddy didn't play on the weekend.
Yes, and also had a 10 goal haul.
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Jack is equal second in CONTESTED MARKS INSIDE 50
T.Cloke (Coll) 22
L.Franklin (Haw) 15
J.Riewoldt (Rich) 15
J.Podsiadly (Geel) 15
J.Kennedy (WC) 13
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
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Whether it's the calf troubling him or something else it still looks like Jack is carrying some niggle. It just appears at ground level he isn't as agile as he is normally. Mind you it didn't stop him leaping and stretching to take that ripper of a mark in the 3rd quarter.
It doesn't help Jack either when he has 3 opponents hanging off him and his teammates in the midfield still kick it to him :scream.
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The loss of two tall defenders and the subsequent move of Miller to the backline really hurt our structures today. I think thats why we saw the ball kicked to an outnumbered Riewoldt so often today, something that hasn't really happened much this year.
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Jack's chances of winning another Coleman has just gone up. Buddy reported for an elbow to the head.
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Jack's chances of winning another Coleman has just gone up. Buddy reported for an elbow to the head.
Hey! That a breach of copyright on my post on the non-Richmond games thread :police:
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Jack's chances of winning another Coleman has just gone up. Buddy reported for an elbow to the head.
Hey! That a breach of copyright on my post on the non-Richmond games thread :police:
LOL I hadn't read that yet. Great minds think alike :thumbsup
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Snip! ::) Back to the topic!
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Jack is now two goals behind Franklin in the Coleman race...
Franklin 42
J.Riewoldt 40
Kennedy 37
A.Walker 32
Cloke 29
J.Garlett 29
Jurrah 28
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Jack's chances of winning another Coleman has just gone up. Buddy reported for an elbow to the head.
Hey! That a breach of copyright on my post on the non-Richmond games thread :police:
LOL I hadn't read that yet. Great minds think alike :thumbsup
Franklin has copped a week from the Match Review Panel.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/116683/default.aspx
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Jumpin Jack might have a rival soon. How good was the mark by that kid in the U/18s today ? Absolute ripper !
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'Sore' Riewoldt quiet again
By Jennifer Witham
7:20 PM Sat 25 Jun, 2011
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has admitted last year's Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt is playing sore but has backed his big forward to fight through.
The 22-year-old was well held by Melbourne defender James Frawley during Saturday's 27-point loss to the Demons at the MCG, which saw end a month of quiet performances.
Against Melbourne, Riewoldt kicked one goal, three behinds, had two goal assists and three inside 50s among his 13 possessions.
Before Saturday, he had kicked just seven goals in the Tigers' past three games; three against Port Adelaide, two against the Sydney Swans and two against the Brisbane Lions.
Hardwick conceded his star was hurting but backed him to play through it.
"Yeah … he takes to the field so he's OK," he said, when asked if Riewoldt was playing hurt.
"He's battling like most players in the AFL at the moment, they're all battling injury and Jack's no different.
"He can still play; he's just tired and sore like the other guys. He just has to battle on."
Hardwick was reluctant to elaborate on Riewoldt's soreness and simply conceded that it was consistent with the majority of AFL players at the round 14 mark.
"Players play sore, it's a long [season] and I don't think there's a more demanding sport in the world than what we play," he said.
"You've just got to look and guys were out on their feet in the last quarter. We had guys coming off and we were trying to get blokes back on and it's a real tough game to play. We've just got to hang tough."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/117065/default.aspx
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why not give him a couple of weeks rest?
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I think if it gets to the stage where we're totally out of finals contention, they'll put him out to pasture early.
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We won't make the finals and we're playing Carlton next week :help so we might as well give Jack a break now to get himself right.
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The Sunday Footy Show says it's Jack's hip that's the problem.
Dermie also said Jack tried to lead up at the ball all day instead of doubling back and that played into Frawley's hands who has one of the quickest closing speeds.
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thought it was Jacks finger that was the issue ;)
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thought it was Jacks finger that was the issue ;)
So did I Jack as well as a calf niggle but I just posted what the footy show said (it wasn't Doc Larkins who said mind you)
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It obviously is playing with Jack's mind whatever it is.
If the season is shot which it is and 2011 is still not about wins but getting structures in place and correct and getting games in the kids and its potentially long term issue, get it fixed and get him right for round 1 2012.
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Rest?
If it was another player I reckon he'd get dropped because of lack of form.
Even if he playing "sore" his body language yesterday and last week was below par IMHO
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Rest?
If it was another player I reckon he'd get dropped because of lack of form.
Even if he playing "sore" his body language yesterday and last week was below par IMHO
what the champion is breaking down :lol out of form
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thought it was Jacks finger that was the issue ;)
So did I Jack as well as a calf niggle but I just posted what the footy show said (it wasn't Doc Larkins who said mind you)
Finger issue has something to do with the number of tweets on twitter
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thought it was Jacks finger that was the issue ;)
So did I Jack as well as a calf niggle but I just posted what the footy show said (it wasn't Doc Larkins who said mind you)
Finger issue has something to do with the number of tweets on twitter
:thumbsup
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Find it very strange some so called supporters are bagging Jack.
Pathetic to be honest, bloke goes out of form and his penalty should be death.
Weak as pee from the useless chicken hearts.
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Find it very strange some so called supporters are bagging Jack.
Pathetic to be honest, bloke goes out of form and his penalty should be death.
Weak as pee from the useless chicken hearts.
What the? You can't be serious Pope
Is Jack immune from being criticised?
Facts are he is horribly out of form & down on confidence has been for weeks now. Against a really good opponent yesterday it shone through like a beacon. What do we do?
I think it is fair & reasonable to say & raise the question question if he was any other player, would he be dropped?
I dont' think I've bagged Jack, if you want to see me bag someone have read of what I've posted today about Grigg ...now that's bagging from me
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Should not be dropped as he has 2nd most goals in afl this season
are you going to replace him with westhoff?
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Cracked the poos because VIckery is getting attention.
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Rubbish. He gets mugged every game now, they are all over him and you see them screaming in his face and niggling him trying to get under his skin. He will ride it out, he isn't getting as much ball sent his way but he is still making things happen and still kicking goals, no sweat here at all. Least of our worries, the rest of the team worries me more, the backline in particular.
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Rubbish. He gets mugged every game now, they are all over him and you see them screaming in his face and niggling him trying to get under his skin. He will ride it out, he isn't getting as much ball sent his way but he is still making things happen and still kicking goals, no sweat here at all. Least of our worries, the rest of the team worries me more, the backline in particular.
Maybe the opposition scream in his face & niggle him because they watch him. His getting back what he does to his own players. little Richo was what l was hearing in the MCC all day. He needs to pull his head in & play the football people give him credit for & know what he can do, then Rewoldt & Vickery will do damage. No good trying to take a specy all day over a 200cm giant ;D His kicking stinks at present like his attitude. Vickery on the other hand is getting the attention, but his attitude is great & his focused.
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BT defended Jack on 3aw tonight. Talked about how Jack is giving more goals away with 20 goal assists this year compared to 8 last year. Dimma in the video email mentioned the same thing saying Jack needed to kick less goals for us to win and for the other forwards' development (eg: Vickery). Dimma said Jack's defensive efforts are down slightly this year while David King on 3aw said he was exposed by Frawley for a lack of pace.
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Find it very strange some so called supporters are bagging Jack.
Pathetic to be honest, bloke goes out of form and his penalty should be death.
Weak as pee from the useless chicken hearts.
What the? You can't be serious Pope
Is Jack immune from being criticised?
Facts are he is horribly out of form & down on confidence has been for weeks now. Against a really good opponent yesterday it shone through like a beacon. What do we do?
I think it is fair & reasonable to say & raise the question question if he was any other player, would he be dropped?
I dont' think I've bagged Jack, if you want to see me bag someone have read of what I've posted today about Grigg ...now that's bagging from me
Jack isn't immune from anything, but there is a line between criticism and abuse. We aren't Essendon.
Has been very poor since Dreamtime.
Port was poor = As was the whole team, in wet/duey rubbish Darwin conditions
Sydney was poor = Again wet conditions
Brisbane was average = No real excuse.
Worst game for a while against Melbourne = Frawley matches up very very well on him.
Not making excuses as he has been seriously below his pass mark, but lets have some sort of perspective before we criticize let alone abuse.
Kicked 6 against Carlton last game, more spotlight on Vickery possibly no Jamieson. Be interested to see how he goes.
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BT defended Jack on 3aw tonight. Talked about how Jack is giving more goals away with 20 goal assists this year compared to 8 last year. Dimma in the video email mentioned the same thing saying Jack needed to kick less goals for us to win and for the other forwards' development (eg: Vickery). Dimma said Jack's defensive efforts are down slightly this year while David King on 3aw said he was exposed by Frawley for a lack of pace.
Very interesting stat.
Puts to bed the garbage he playing for a Coleman Medal when he is averaging just under 2 goal assists per game.
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Can Tigers bring old Jack back?
Michael Gleeson
June 29, 2011
JACK Riewoldt kicked six goals in round one against the team he plays again this weekend. He started the season in the same style as his Coleman Medal-winning season last year but it was an early sighting that has become increasingly rare.
Jack has not been the player he was last year.
It is partly by design and not necessarily a bad thing for Richmond; it made no secret of wanting more than one goalkicker. But allowing for that, he is below the player - and the presence - that he was last year.
Riewoldt has kicked 41 goals and sits second for goal kicking to Lance Franklin, but in his past month against modest opposition, he has yielded just eight goals.
Things have been done at the Tigers for this to happen but, just as importantly, things have been done to the Tigers for it to occur.
The press has brought more numbers folding into Richmond's forward zone but this alone does not account for the territory around Riewoldt being sucked up. Riewoldt's space and jumping space has been blocked - legally and illegally - by opposition teams more than it was last year. He is being stopped from getting at the ball to fly.
A spirited player, Riewoldt did not take it too well and sides knew that blocking and holding would have a dual effect: it would deny him a run at the ball but it also needled an emotional character.
Riewoldt has battled with knee pain but not to the extent that he has missed a training session or match. He was also cleaned up badly at training, which left him ginger last week.
In pure statistical terms, his numbers are not enormously down on last year. Significantly, his tackling inside 50 is the most notable drop - but overall they are down.
He is averaging fewer touches and two marks a game less and, importantly, is taking fewer marks inside 50 and contested marks than last year. He still ranks first in the AFL for marks on the lead, which indicates he is being pushed further up the ground to combat blocks or holds in trying to mark one-out or in a pack.
''I think people are used to him taking those strong marks, which he has not done over the last six or seven weeks,'' a club insider said. ''But he also demands a bit better of himself than he has been producing.''
Where he has got better is bringing other people into the game. He leads the AFL for scoreboard impact, a stat that combines goals kicked and scoring assists.
And this is one of the primary changes for Riewoldt and Richmond. Plainly the intent was that Jack not be the predictable ''pea'' for Richmond week in week out, and so he has sacrificed his game at times to push up the ground.
Most obviously this occurred against Brisbane a fortnight ago, when the Lions sent Matt Maguire to him and had only the under-sized Josh Drummond for Ty Vickery. Naturally, Damien Hardwick cleared out the forward line and directed all attack to be funnelled through Vickery. It worked.
Likewise, if Michael Jamison was in the side this week he would have taken Riewoldt and most likely Bret Thornton would have taken Vickery and it would have been expected that the Tigers would have hunted out Vickery more than Riewoldt.
With Jamison out, the sacrifice asked of Riewoldt will also be removed.
In round one, Riewoldt had the young and quick Simon White but he proved too clever for him and Thornton was tried. This week, Riewoldt will probably have Thornton again and possibly Lachie Henderson, who looked better last week when he went behind the ball, will be left in defence for Vickery.
This week Riewoldt will likely be the man again. But will Jack (of 2010) be back?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/can-tigers-bring-old-jack-back-20110628-1gp53.html#ixzz1QabFdCNJ
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Think Dimma has made it clear the team needs less goals from Jack.
He is still second on the goal kicking but has 20 assists compared to 7 last year.
If he was to be 10 or 20 in front we would of had no development from Vickery and to a lesser degree Martin/King etc ....
So it's all about perspective really.
Having said that I would like to see both Jack and Vicks spend the majority of one game (Maybe this one) in the forward 50 together and see how an all out 2 pronged attack goes.
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I know he's getting a lot more attention, but last year he was always a chance for a mark even if he had 3 guys on him.
This season he doesn't look a chance to get his hands on it most times. He's also giving away a lot more frees (or so it seems) out of frustration.
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Gets less free kicks than Richo. Kid gets scragged week in week out.
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Gets less free kicks than Richo. Kid gets scragged week in week out.
You're right. Have a look at a couple of the pathetically soft frees that private school pratt Watts recieved last week. Yet when it goes down the other end you can shepherd , block , scrag and rape Jack and he gets nothing.
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maybe if he shut his mouth & stopped abusing the umpires & his teammates, he might get a few free kicks.
boils down to his taking the wrong attitude into the game. Think he needs to change his ipod to Culture Club ;D
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Gets less free kicks than Richo. Kid gets scragged week in week out.
You're right. Have a look at a couple of the pathetically soft frees that private school pratt Watts recieved last week. Yet when it goes down the other end you can shepherd , block , scrag and rape Jack and he gets nothing.
True but Jack seems to 'stage" for them more now
He seems to be throwing his arms out alot more appealing for the free
Sadly (read I don't agree with it) it seems in the last say 5 years or so if you do that your are more likely not to get them paid in your favour.
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Jack’s doing his job
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 29 Jun, 2011
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick is pleased his star spearhead Jack Riewoldt has kicked fewer goals than this time last year.
In his video message to Club members this week, Hardwick defended the reigning Coleman Medallist’s output so far in the 2011 season . . .
“A lot’s been made of Jack Riewoldt and his form this year, but from our point of view, Jack has to kick less goals for us to get better, if that makes any sense,” Hardwick said.
“I think he’s kicked about six or seven goals less than this time last year. But what’s happened is by him becoming less of a focal point, it’s actually helped with the development of Tyrone Vickery. He’s kicked about 25 goals this year and Dustin Martin’s kicked 20, as has Jake King.
“So, the funny thing about it is, although people will see Jack’s performance as down, for us to improve as a side, that had to happen . . . it has been very important to us.
“The real positive for us, though, is Jack’s goal assists are through the roof. I think this time last year he had eight . . . he’s got 20 this year.
“People say his scoreboard impact has gone down, but from an overall point of view, it’s a lot better than this time last year.
“Look, he’s got a lot of work to go in a number of areas of his game. Defensively, he’s a little bit down this year, but we hope that will improve over the course of the next three to four weeks . . . We’re sure he’ll bounce back.”
It’s interesting to note that after Richmond had played 13 games last season, the Riewoldt/Vickery combination had scored 51 goals between them (Riewoldt 48 and Vickery 3).
This season, after 13 Richmond games, the Riewoldt/Vickery combination totals 66 goals (Riewoldt 41 and Vickery 25).
They have combined for more goals than any other tall forward duo in the competition to this stage of the season, ahead of Hawthorn’s Franklin and Roughead (58 goals), Collingwood’s Cloke and Dawes (56 goals), and West Coast’s Kennedy and Lynch (54 goals).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/117394/default.aspx
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Jack’s doing his job
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 29 Jun, 2011
This season, after 13 Richmond games, the Riewoldt/Vickery combination totals 66 goals (Riewoldt 41 and Vickery 25).
They have combined for more goals than any other tall forward duo in the competition to this stage of the season, ahead of Hawthorn’s Franklin and Roughead (58 goals), Collingwood’s Cloke and Dawes (56 goals), and West Coast’s Kennedy and Lynch (54 goals).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/117394/default.aspx
Interesting stat
Now if we can just stop leaking goals
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Jack’s doing his job
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 29 Jun, 2011
This season, after 13 Richmond games, the Riewoldt/Vickery combination totals 66 goals (Riewoldt 41 and Vickery 25).
They have combined for more goals than any other tall forward duo in the competition to this stage of the season, ahead of Hawthorn’s Franklin and Roughead (58 goals), Collingwood’s Cloke and Dawes (56 goals), and West Coast’s Kennedy and Lynch (54 goals).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/117394/default.aspx
Interesting stat
Now if we can just stop leaking goals
Good call :clapping
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Was just talking to a Melbourne supporter & were talking how Watts was progressing & out of nowhere he says the Rewoldt thinks his better than what he is & has a mental problem :o that his happy he was playing so badly on the weekend that he helped Frawley do his job & Melbourne win the game.
l finished serving him & charged him a extra 10 bucks for his cheeky mouth & said thanks for coming ;D :thumbsup
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l finished serving him & charged him a extra 10 bucks for his cheeky mouth & said thanks for coming ;D :thumbsup
You shoulda spat on his onion rings
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Snip!
Bill Brownless tonight asked Jack if he was 100% fit and Jack would only answer that you're never truly 100% fit at this stage of the season. Jack's obviously carrying some injury or niggle otherwise he would've answered he's fine.
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:ROTFL
So it's quite feasable that jack may get a rest in the near future and miller comes in.
...and once again...round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows.
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Snip!
Bill Brownless tonight asked Jack if he was 100% fit and Jack would only answer that you're never truly 100% fit at this stage of the season. Jack's obviously carrying some injury or niggle otherwise he would've answered he's fine.
Told you all on a previous post, he has a injury to his finger
too much tweeting on Twitter
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Snip!
Bill Brownless tonight asked Jack if he was 100% fit and Jack would only answer that you're never truly 100% fit at this stage of the season. Jack's obviously carrying some injury or niggle otherwise he would've answered he's fine.
Told you all on a previous post, he has a injury to his finger
too much tweeting on Twitter
You or him?
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:laugh:
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Jack is back in front in the Coleman Medal race...
J.Riewoldt (Rich) 45
L.Franklin (Haw) 43
J.Kennedy (WC) 39
T.Cloke (Coll) 38
A.Walker (Carl) 36
J.Garlett (Carl) 35
D.Petrie (NM) 30
L.Jurrah (Melb) 30
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not too shabby for such a poor performing out of form struggling forward....
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Jack tried his guts out, a return to form of sorts i think!
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not too shabby for such a poor performing out of form struggling forward....
C'mon Owl, we all no he's a 22yo has been ;D ;D
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Jack tried his guts out, a return to form of sorts i think!
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After I got him to him.lol
Edited to fix quote
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not too shabby for such a poor performing out of form struggling forward....
Prior to the weekend he had kicked 7 goals in 4 games. Hardly inspiring stuff.
Still good to see him at the top of the Goalkicking Table.
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Rumours around that Buddy will miss this week due to the ankle. Jack is now back to being favourite for the Coleman.
On a non-footy topic about Jack - Get down and meet him this Wednesday from 10.30am-12.30pm at JR/Duty Free 185 Swanston St City (Cnr Swanston and Bourke).
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Buddy played and played well but he kicked only 3 goals so Jack only needs to kick 2 or more tonight to stay in front in the Coleman. For us to win though he needs to kick a bag if Vickery will be used mainly in the ruck tonight.
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With the remaining games pretty much meaningless, if Jack is carrying niggles (calf & finger) then he should be put into cotton wool for the rest of the season and get himself right for the preseason and 2012. He's clearly struggling and unable to play the way he wants to.
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..but that would probably mean playing miller again :P
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With the remaining games pretty much meaningless, if Jack is carrying niggles (calf & finger) then he should be put into cotton wool for the rest of the season and get himself right for the preseason and 2012. He's clearly struggling and unable to play the way he wants to.
Maybe Jack is struggling with the hype!?
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With the remaining games pretty much meaningless, if Jack is carrying niggles (calf & finger) then he should be put into cotton wool for the rest of the season and get himself right for the preseason and 2012. He's clearly struggling and unable to play the way he wants to.
Maybe Jack is struggling with the hype!?
Yeah tend to agree with you there
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Don't think he is GR12 IMO. He really hasn't been the same since he was concussed in round 2.
..but that would probably mean playing miller again :P
That would mean we're tanking al :lol.
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:lol :thumbsup
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I'm not really buying into any of this.
He kicking balls 50+ metres still taking good marks.
Hurley was sensational tonight.
Its a case of other teams knowing how to play him combined with some low confidence.
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Not playing Gus was dumb.
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Hurley destroyed him
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cant agree with that ox. i saw more in vickery tonight than i have ever seen in gus and it will have done him the world of good the problem was it was robbing peter to pay paul but vickery has football brain that gus and browne could only dream of. actually i wonder if they could even comprehend it enough to even dream about it
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cant agree with that ox. i saw more in vickery tonight than i have ever seen in gus and it will have done him the world of good the problem was it was robbing peter to pay paul but vickery has football brain that gus and browne could only dream of. actually i wonder if they could even comprehend it enough to even dream about it
They would have both been asleep by qtr time,Al
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1st couple of minutes of the game kick poor kick went towards Riewoldt and Hurley marked.
Instead of wrapping him up Riewoldt kept his eyes on the bloke that kicked it poorly and Hurley played on and ran through the line.
That's not injury, fatigue, umpires or anything else.
It's attitude and a very poor one.
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wrong thread but fukkit.
Ty was great.
Gus would have been better than Post :help
Why was griff subbed? - rooted?
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1st couple of minutes of the game kick poor kick went towards Riewoldt and Hurley marked.
Instead of wrapping him up Riewoldt kept his eyes on the bloke that kicked it poorly and Hurley played on and ran through the line.
That's not injury, fatigue, umpires or anything else.
It's attitude and a very poor one.
The thing that annoys me most is that he did these things when we were winning?
Spat the dummy and pointed finger vs Carlton in round 1 and he kicked 6 and played well.
No one was whinging then.
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1st couple of minutes of the game kick poor kick went towards Riewoldt and Hurley marked.
Instead of wrapping him up Riewoldt kept his eyes on the bloke that kicked it poorly and Hurley played on and ran through the line.
That's not injury, fatigue, umpires or anything else.
It's attitude and a very poor one.
The thing that annoys me most is that he did these things when we were winning?
Spat the dummy and pointed finger vs Carlton in round 1 and he kicked 6 and played well.
No one was whinging then.
I don't mind how much a player sooks and how bad his body language is, if the players upfield don't do the job then let them know.
What I do have a problem with though is doing it instead of doing your job as a footballer like in that instance.
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cant agree with that ox. i saw more in vickery tonight than i have ever seen in gus and it will have done him the world of good the problem was it was robbing peter to pay paul but vickery has football brain that gus and browne could only dream of. actually i wonder if they could even comprehend it enough to even dream about it
They would have both been asleep by qtr time,Al
:lol
and nobody would notice the difference
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Worst game i have seen Jack play in a long time. Even the goal he got was from a lucky free on Pears.
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Hardwick made no excuses for Jack after the game. Said Jack had a poor game.
* Q. You mentioned a couple of weeks ago about Jack playing injured - any change in that?
Jack's fine. He just got beaten by a better player. We expect him to bounce back next week.
* Q. He's moving like a player whose carrying something?
There's lots of players like that who are moving exactly the same. It's a tough time of the year. So we expect him to get better. He didn't play overly well tonight.
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Hutchy claimed tonight on Footy Classified that Jack is playing with a cracked rib!
Make of that what you will ...
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Hutchy claimed tonight on Footy Classified that Jack is playing with a cracked rib!
Make of that what you will ...
He does seem to be playing with restrictions and that would explain what it is.
But I agree with you coming from Hutchy you can only make of that what you will.
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the cracked rib he refers to is the remains of a BBQ rib found in jacks rubbish bin.
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remember that mark attemp he tried to take a huge one but the bloke move out from under him and kinda tunnelled him so he land flat on his back and head? I was wondering how he didn't actually kill himself but he very well could of injured himself in that one, might explain a bit.
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remember that mark attemp he tried to take a huge one but the bloke move out from under him and kinda tunnelled him so he land flat on his back and head? I was wondering how he didn't actually kill himself but he very well could of injured himself in that one, might explain a bit.
Was against Freo that leaping attempt falling on his back.
Hasn't been the same since, was quiet the week after in Dreamtime.
- Port = was rubbish
- Brisbane = beaten by Maguire
- Melbourne = beaten by Frawley (always happens)
- Carlton = debacle anyway
- Essendon = beaten by Hurley
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Dimma said today in his press conference he's not worried about the offensive side of Jack's game as the goals will come. It's the defensive side where Jack can improve.
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Tigers jump to Jack Riewoldt's defence
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
July 15, 2011
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick leapt to the defence of Jack Riewoldt yesterday, blaming the Tigers' poor forward entries for the full-forward's dip in form.
Riewoldt has kicked more than two goals only once in his past six outings - when he kicked four in his side's 103-point loss to Carlton.
But Hardwick is happy enough with the 22-year-old's output.
"He's running second in the Coleman Medal," Hardwick said of Riewoldt yesterday.
"The easiest person on the ground to criticise is the full-forward. They're very reliant on what happens up the field with ball delivery. The only thing I can suggest with Jack is the area of his game that he can improve is his defensive efforts, and we've had conversations about that.
"Offensively, we're not really worried about the goals, they'll come, but surprisingly, defensively if you get your stuff done then offensively your game will come from there."
Hardwick scoffed at suggestions Riewoldt was carrying a significant injury, but admitted he did have his niggles.
"The majority of the players in the AFL at the moment are either fatigued or injured. He's no different."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-jump-to-riewoldts-defence/story-e6frf9jf-1226094910777
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Doc Larkins reckons Jack has some groin or higher up thigh injury. If that's the case then the Club should be asked why is Jack playing with our season gone.
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watching hime yesterday my thoughts were he needs a rest.
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Doc Larkins reckons Jack has some groin or higher up thigh injury. If that's the case then the Club should be asked why is Jack playing with our season gone.
I would think Doc Larkins is spot on the money ;D
And I will assk why the hell is he playing
The season is shot so why bother
I blame our medical & fitness staff because you should never ask the player and coachjes go on the advice the medicos & fitenss people give
A player will always say their right to go even when they are not. Foley lost just over 12 months of his career becuase he said he was right to play and the medico's said the same thing and gee didn't they stuff that one up
The medicos are likely to say - playing it wont make it worse BUT you play him at whht price?
Fans are already turning on him being critical of his efforts, it was actually sad watching Jack yesterday - he is clearly reall tryign hard but physcially cannot run at full pace and has no spring so whay are we persisting?
Surely we would be far better off giving Jack a rest and giving the opportunity to Griffiths, Post & Vickery and see what they've got to offer (Post) and haow they go stadnign up (Griff & Ty)
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OP could be the issue. In any case he should forget winning the Coleman this year. They should put him in cotton wool now until the start of preseason IMHO.
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Luke Darcy on OneHD's OWAAT tonight said he's heard a non-regular teammate crashed into Jack at training and Jack ended up with a rib injury and a sore back. He's been carrying the problem since.
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Luke Darcy on OneHD's OWAAT tonight said he's heard a non-regular teammate crashed into Jack at training and Jack ended up with a rib injury and a sore back. He's been carrying the problem since.
As opposed to Brad Johnson getting run over by the golf cart last year.
Trade the culprit. :lol :rollin :lol
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OP could be the issue. In any case he should forget winning the Coleman this year. They should put him in cotton wool now until the start of preseason IMHO.
Nah Flagman I don't think it's OP - more hip lower back for mine... I am expert on lower back problems ;D
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OP could be the issue. In any case he should forget winning the Coleman this year. They should put him in cotton wool now until the start of preseason IMHO.
Nah Flagman I don't think it's OP - more hip lower back for mine... I am expert on lower back problems ;D
You seem to be the resident OER genius from Accounting standards to Bad Backs. Whats next William?
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OP could be the issue. In any case he should forget winning the Coleman this year. They should put him in cotton wool now until the start of preseason IMHO.
Nah Flagman I don't think it's OP - more hip lower back for mine... I am expert on lower back problems ;D
You seem to be the resident OER genius from Accounting standards to Bad Backs. Whats next William?
Nothing at this time... although people keep telling me there may be an opening as a leader of an Aussie Political party coming up in the not to distant future so perhaps I should aim for that...or the RFC presidency ;D
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can u do both
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can u do both
Sadly no
I would think the RFC presidency would take up far too much time :rollin :cheers ;D
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Richo said Jack is injured. He believes Jack is carrying some back problem and there's also something wrong with his ankle.
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Richo said Jack is injured. He believes Jack is carrying some back problem and there's also something wrong with his ankle.
Park him up for the rest of the year then, year is shot, no brainer really.
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Would think that if Buddy was 20 goals in front in the Coleman they'd put him in cotton wool.
Can't think of any reason why we're playing an injured Jack.
We drafted Miller in case Jack got injured?
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I agree Pope. I think Jack is only playing because he's still in the Coleman race. I thought we were meant to be planning for the long-term ::). Smart clubs would have told Jack his season is up and get yourself right for preseason and 2012. What's he going to do against Geelong and the Eagles while injured to prevent the inevitable floggings?! Last week the Suns were rebounding off Jack.
They say the injury occurred at training but if it's a back complaint then it wouldn't surprise me if the injury occurred when Jack went early for that huge horizontal flying mark against Freo and landed on his back. He really has struggled since.
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I agree Pope. I think Jack is only playing because he's still in the Coleman race. I thought we were meant to be planning for the long-term ::). Smart clubs would have told Jack his season is up and get yourself right for preseason and 2012. What's he going to do against Geelong and the Eagles while injured to prevent the inevitable floggings?! Last week the Suns were rebounding off Jack.
They say the injury occurred at training but if it's a back complaint then it wouldn't surprise me if the injury occurred when Jack went early for that huge horizontal flying mark against Freo and landed on his back. He really has struggled since.
Yep couldn't be more right MT.
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stuff him.
Should be able to play injured and kick goals
Carey,Ablett senior,
Every player is injured or sore by this stage.
Harden the stuff up and take a grab
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Franklin kicked 5 today against Melbourne so he's one goal in front of Jack now in the Coleman.
Jack's reached 50 goals for the year btw.
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50 goals what a dud :banghead
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Lance Franklin sharp for Coleman No2
From: The Australian
July 26, 2011
LANCE Franklin has firmed as favourite to win his second Coleman Medal but there could still be a twist or two in the tale.
With six rounds of the home-and-away season to go, four other players remain within six goals of the Hawthorn superstar. And that group doesn't include pint-sized forwards Stephen Milne and Eddie Betts, who booted match-winning hauls of eight goals for St Kilda and Carlton respectively at the weekend.
Franklin moved to 51 goals, one clear of last year's leading goalkicker Jack Riewoldt, with a five-goal tally against Melbourne on Sunday. Richmond's Riewoldt also bagged three against the Cats.
The consensus is that Riewoldt won't top the goalkicking again because of the Tigers' flagging form, although it is worth noting that didn't do him any harm last season. What might be more relevant is that Riewoldt and Richmond have only five games to go in the home-and-away season -- one less than Franklin's Hawks.
If team form is relevant, then surely third-placed Travis Cloke is still right in the running. He managed only two goals in Collingwood's win over Gold Coast -- for a season tally of 45.
The general perception that Cloke is a poor set shot for goal may make it hard for many punters to take him seriously as a Coleman winner. But the truth is that he gets plenty of scoring opportunities courtesy of the blue-chip service he receives from the Collingwood midfield and his rare talent for taking contested marks.
A goal further back on 44 is West Coast centre half-forward Josh Kennedy -- which is no great surprise -- and Carlton's Andrew Walker -- which is a huge shock. Less than a year ago Carlton was considering whether to trade Walker. But the former No2 draft pick has been reborn this season as a medium-sized forward, booting four more against Essendon on Saturday night as well as reeling in an exceptional high mark.
Cloke and Kennedy each have six games to play in the regular season, one more than Walker.
What is certain is that for the 12th time in the past 13 years, a double-figure tally will be good enough to claim this year's medal.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/lance-franklin-sharp-for-coleman-no2/story-e6frg7mf-1226101634811
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Jack has become just the 7th Tiger to kick 50 goals or more in consecutive seasons. He joins Bayliss, Titus, Harris, Poulter, Roach and Richo.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/119437/default.aspx
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Buddy was held goal-less tonight despite the Hawks flogging Freo. So Jack didn't lose ground despite the bye and is still only one goal behind Franklin in the Coleman race with 5 rounds to go.
Lance Franklin 51
Jack Riewoldt 50
Andrew Walker 46
Travis Cloke 45*
Josh Kennedy 44
Stephen Milne 42
Drew Petrie 40
*- still to play this round.
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put money on Walker I reckon. Good smokey.
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Cloke's now on 48 so the Coleman has tightened up into a race between four.
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How many goals has Brett Deledio kicked this year?
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sweet FA
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How many goals has Brett Deledio kicked this year?
7 goals 9 behinds Tucker
See: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2011/Statistics/tabid/6315/Default.aspx
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Hard to kick goals when the ball has spent of the second half of the season mostly in our defensive half :P. After 5 straight weeks kicking over 100 points up to the Dreamtime game, we've only passed the 100 mark once since (vs Bris) - 75, 65, 125, 91, 81, 66, 70, 51. Our offensive side has dried up in the past two months and that's exposed a brittle defensive side even more.
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Buddy goal-less so far today (late 3rd qtr) and now off the ground getting his upper leg checked out. If it stays that way then Jack can regain the lead in the Coleman today. Hopefully the bye has helped rest the niggles Jack is carrying.
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Still no goals for Franklin at 3/4 time but he's back on the ground.
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Still no goals for Franklin at 3/4 time but he's back on the ground.
Franklin kicked 3 in the last to get the Hawks home. So he's currently 4 ahead of Jack.
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Jack is back equal leader in the Coleman. I thought he played and competed much better too tonight.
Lance Franklin 54
Jack Riewoldt 54
Travis Cloke 51
Andrew Walker 48
Stephen Milne 46
Josh Kennedy 44
James Podsiadly 42
Drew Petrie 42
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Yeah started slowly, was getting held a lot by glass, umpire was only paying this up the other end though. When he started leading up more in the second half he came good. Even took some good contested marks.
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Buddy has been reported for striking. If he cops a week or two then Jack's Coleman chances rise dramatically.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120451/default.aspx
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lmao@ 60 goals in a season being enough to win coleman.
Proves the afl is screwing forwards to appease the cries of defenders.
Seriously,this competition is the most unprofessionally administrated in the world of pro sport.
God bless Australia!!
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Buddy has been reported for striking. If he cops a week or two then Jack's Coleman chances rise dramatically.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120451/default.aspx
hope that dirty prick get 4 weeks ;D but he wont cause he dont play for Richmond & only our club gets stupid penalties
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Buddy has been reported for striking. If he cops a week or two then Jack's Coleman chances rise dramatically.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120451/default.aspx
hope that dirty prick get 4 weeks ;D but he wont cause he dont play for Richmond & only our club gets stupid penalties
The striking charge against Franklin has been thrown out by the MRP.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120492/default.aspx
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Buddy has been reported for striking. If he cops a week or two then Jack's Coleman chances rise dramatically.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120451/default.aspx
hope that dirty prick get 4 weeks ;D but he wont cause he dont play for Richmond & only our club gets stupid penalties
The striking charge against Franklin has been thrown out by the MRP.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120492/default.aspx
You didnopt have to relay the message cause l knew that the prick would get off.
If by chance that was a Richmond player being looked at, We would get 3-4 for a offence like that
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A snail's pace in battle for Coleman
Sam Lienert
August 9, 2011
THE Coleman Medal is on track to be won this season with the lowest goal tally in more than 30 years.
Hawthorn's Lance Franklin and Richmond's Jack Riewoldt, both past winners, are tied for the lead on 54 goals, with four rounds remaining.
Franklin topped the century for his previous medal win, kicking 102 goals during the home and away season in the Hawks' 2008 premiership year.
But barring an unexpected late surge from Franklin or Riewoldt, or a huge purple patch from one of the chasing pack, this year's award will be won with a much more mediocre figure.
If Franklin maintains his current season goal rate and plays the Hawks' remaining four games, he is set to finish on 68 goals, with Riewoldt on track for 66.
Not since Hawthorn legend Leigh Matthews won the Coleman with 67 majors in 1975 has the medal been won with a tally even close to that mark.
Collingwood's Travis Cloke, who has 51 goals, Carlton's Andrew Walker (48), St Kilda's Stephen Milne (46) and West Coast's Josh Kennedy (42) are others within striking range.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-snails-pace-in-battle-for-coleman-20110808-1ij9g.html#ixzz1USDTCIZ5
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might not get the Coleman. Buddy could/should have a field day today against Port.
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might not get the Coleman. Buddy could/should have a field day today against Port.
Buddy has kicked 7 thus far :help
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might not get the Coleman. Buddy could/should have a field day today against Port.
Buddy has kicked 7 thus far :help
Yep Jack can say good-bye to the Coleman after this unless Buddy gets injured and misses a game or two before the end of the H/A season :-\. 7 straight too which is very un-Buddy like.
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Port are less than rable
I think the tiges know that and since they dropped that game to them theyve never been the same this year :-\
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buddy has 8 now
Hope this lights a fire under your arse Jack, get out there and belt that leather!!
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Buddy finished with 8 so Jack would need to kick a bag of around 6 tomorrow to stay in the race for the Coleman.
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Buddy finished with 8 so Jack would need to kick a bag of around 6 tomorrow to stay in the race for the Coleman.
Dont see any reason why Jack cant kick a bag tomorrow. He with alot of other players need to lift thier game
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Get off Jack Riewoldt's back, says Damien Hardwick
Damien Hardwick
From: Sunday Herald Sun
August 14, 2011
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has praised Jack Riewoldt for his ability to deal with extra attention this year and for accepting the Tigers' need to share the goalkicking load.
Riewoldt remains a chance to become the first back-to-back Coleman Medal winner since Fraser Gehrig in 2004-2005, despite suggestions he has been a fair way short of his 78-goal breakout 2010 season.
But Hardwick believes the 22-year-old has fought hard to overcome an injury-interrupted pre-season to kick 54.22 from his 18 games.
"I think some people have been a bit hard on Jack," Hardwick said. "He hasn't quite played to the level that we know he can, but he has still kicked 54 goals.
''He had surgery after the International Rules. He had a pretty significant knee injury (at a training session in February) and I thought he had done his ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) when I saw him go down. So he was behind the eight-ball before the start of the season and for him to battle away, as he has done, is a credit to him.
"It becomes pretty hard because they (opposition teams) put a lot more time and effort into him now."
Hardwick made the comment during the pre-season that Richmond needed to follow the lead of other successful clubs by having a wider spread in goalkicking, which more than likely meant fewer goals from its No.1 man in attack this year.
"When you look at the really good sides, there is that spread of goalkickers, and that's been the really pleasing thing for us this year," Hardwick said.
Last year Riewoldt kicked 32 per cent of the Tigers' goals; this year he accounts for 22.5 per cent.
Richmond is scoring more than two goals a game more than last year and that has much to do with the development of Ty Vickery (30 goals) as well as 24 goals to Jake King and 20 to Dustin Martin.
"Ty is a 200cm key position player, but he is still growing into his body. The improvement he has made has been significant," Hardwick said.
"It is good to see because a lot of time and effort has gone into him, from Danny Daly, the forwards coach, and the other coaches."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/get-off-jack-riewoldts-back-says-damien-hardwick/story-e6frf9jf-1226114330446
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Confidence plays a huge part in football & Jacks game today suffered by our poor season. we must keep winning games to keep confidence & moral among the players.
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Jack was on 3aw last night. Here's a summary and audio link....
http://media.mytalk.com.au/3AW/AUDIO/150811_Sports_Today_Replay.mp3
* After six weeks of a few downs and some heavy loses, we're back on the winning sheet and the boys are pretty wrapt this morning and happy to do it for the fans and for the Club and put the Club in the right direction.
* We've probably fallen into the trap of getting ahead of ourselves a little bit at the start the year. We won a few games and were going along pretty nicely then we had a lot of young guys sort of hit their high end early so we're happy to be back on the winning sheet. Against West Coast last week we had a really good third quarter and start of last quarter and this week we put four quarters together so that's the real pleasing thing for the Club.
* Russell said its possible we can finish off the year with 4 wins (play Melb, Adel and North) and the Club can go into the preseason with a real positive look on them. Jack replied that's something we're focussing on. Whether we're playing Melbourne or Geelong, the last few weeks are really important getting into some really good form and finishing off the year really well. It certainly was a trap we fell into last year where we finished off the season with a few losses and it put a bit of a bummer going into the preseason. This year we're looking win, improve and keep getting games into guys like Post, Batchelor who was sensational on the weekend, and we've started to build a bond. Guys like Houli and Grigg who were new to the club to finish the year off well and they start to jell with our other half-back flankers and midfielders.
* Russell mentioned the media especially the print media were lining up to bag us this week expecting us to lose to the Swans. So the team picked a good week to pull out a win. Jack replied that's how the media works - friends one day then bag you the next. We're not focused on what people outside of the Club are thinking of us going forward. Dimma has got a really clear concise plan of where we want to go and every player on the list believes in where we’re going. We’re just happy for the victory. It was really important for our fans to see our young guys coming up and playing some good footy. It gives them that bit of relief and they can see light at the end of the tunnel. We’re not setting any benchmarks on where we want to go. We just want to keep improving and keep our fans seeing an enjoyable brand of footy.
* Healy mentioned last week while commentating he noticed Jack was wrestling with Darren Glass too much rather than playing the good footy he can. Jack said he knew what Healy said as he watched the replay as part of the review. He did a couple of times wrestle with Glass and Glass being bigger he took that out of his game to play better and because Glass was making him look like a fool a bit.
* Our delivery inside 50 was really good. He can’t stress enough how good it is to have guys like Cotchin through the midfield and Bachar Houli coming off the half-back flank getting the ball and kicking it to you as they’re great users. If we move it well off half-back and through the midfield then Jack said himself, Vickery and Kingy - the guys up forward - know they are finishing off the work of those upfield.
* Jack said knows he's had some down weeks through this year and the Coleman’s always talked about but it’s not something he's really fussed about any more. He just hopes to finish off the year with a couple of good games. Just happy that the Club’s got a bright future and he's looking forward to playing this weekend and finishing off the season hopefully on a good note.
* It's hard to mark your own season. He's always asking the coaches for feedback as to where he's at. Prior to last two week had some really poor games and not playing his role well enough despite still getting 16 touches. Rate's himself this year as 60-65 [out of 100 ] as far as where he wants to go as a player and leader. Jack said he's got plenty to work on the mental and leadership of his game in terms of where he wants to go as a player and where he knows he can go as a leader. He's still got plenty to work on in his game. He's got plenty to work on in the mental side and the leadership side. Just really excited and looking forward to doing that over the pre-season and then hopefully coming back a better person and a better player next year.
* Jack asked fans to get on the RFC website and come to a great Jack Dyer B&F night as the young stars will be polling well.
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Season barely a pass for Richmond star Jack Riewoldt
Grant Baker
From: Herald Sun
August 16, 2011 5:53PM
HE'S second only to Lance Franklin in the race for the Coleman Medal, but Tigers star Jack Riewoldt reckons his season has been no better than 65 out of 100.
Riewoldt, who won the medal last season and kicked 56 goals so far this year, says he has plenty more to give as a footballer and cited leadership as a focus for work over the pre-season.
“It’s hard to mark your own season, I’m always asking for feedback from the coaches to say where I am at,” Riewoldt said. “Prior to the last two weekends (West Coast and Sydney), I’ve had some really poor games in my eyes.
“I was still getting my 15 or 16 touches but in the way I was influencing games and as a leader of our club I didn’t feel like I was playing my role well enough.
“This year, I would rate myself around a 60, 65 (out of 100) in terms of where I want to go as a player and where I know I can go as a leader and taking us forward with this group I’ve still got plenty to give, plenty to work on in my game, plenty to work on the mental side and the leadership side which I’m really excited about, really looking forward to working over the pre-season with, coming back a better person and a better player next year.”
Riewoldt said the Tigers may have over-estimated their improvement early in the season, but were now focused on heading into another pre-season on a positive note.
“We’d fallen into the trap, got ahead of ourselves a little bit at the start of the year, won a few games and we were going along pretty nicely and then we’ve had a lot of young guys who hit the hump, basically,” he said on 3AW
“Last week against West Coast we played a really good third quarter and this week were able to put four quarters together, so that was a really pleasing thing as a club.
“The last three weeks are really important for us to find some good form because last week we fell into the trap, we lost a lot of our last games going into the end of the season and it put a bit of a bummer on it going into the pre-season. This year, we’re looking to win and improve.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/season-barely-a-pass-for-richmond-star-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frf9jf-1226116206827
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* Russell mentioned the media especially the print media were lining up to bag us this week expecting us to lose to the Swans.
That's why we're seeing all this Milne/McGinnity stuff. ;D
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Another 4 to Buddy last night so he's now 10 ahead. It's hard to see Jack catching him now unless he pulls a massive bag or two out of nowhere in the last 3 games.
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Another 4 to Buddy last night so he's now 10 ahead. It's hard to see Jack catching him now unless he pulls a massive bag or two out of nowhere in the last 3 games.
That hopefully will free up Jack's mind and he will play better without the Coleman rubbish hanging over his head!
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I would love nothing more than to see Jack kick a bag tomorrow.
Unfortunately for him though, Chipper Frawley has got the better of him in the past.
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Cloke's now past Jack so Jack will need to kick a few to regain even second spot in the Coleman.
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I would love nothing more than to see Jack kick a bag tomorrow.
Unfortunately for him though, Chipper Frawley has got the better of him in the past.
Would be a pity if chipper ate an elbow sandwhich ;)
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wgaf about the coleman
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I wouldnt play him again this season. Just rest him up so he can have a good preseason.
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I wouldnt play him again this season. Just rest him up so he can have a good preseason.
Why?? The logic of some of these post's are unbelievable! Do you think the only reason we play him is to win the colman? And I sure he would be wrapped to be told "Jack, we know your still fit and healthy but we want you to sit the rest of the season out because some of our lamer supporters don't want us to win another game" FFS Jack lives to play for the club and you just want him to sit out because? Get a grip man.....
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I wouldnt play him again this season. Just rest him up so he can have a good preseason.
Why?? The logic of some of these post's are unbelievable! Do you think the only reason we play him is to win the colman? And I sure he would be wrapped to be told "Jack, we know your still fit and healthy but we want you to sit the rest of the season out because some of our lamer supporters don't want us to win another game" FFS Jack lives to play for the club and you just want him to sit out because? Get a grip man.....
Every club does what I suggest with there best players once they see that their season is coming to an end. If you cant fathom that then that is your problem. There is no harm in giving Riewoldt an extended break of 2 weeks.
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I wouldnt play him again this season. Just rest him up so he can have a good preseason.
Why?? The logic of some of these post's are unbelievable! Do you think the only reason we play him is to win the colman? And I sure he would be wrapped to be told "Jack, we know your still fit and healthy but we want you to sit the rest of the season out because some of our lamer supporters don't want us to win another game" FFS Jack lives to play for the club and you just want him to sit out because? Get a grip man.....
Every club does what I suggest with there best players once they see that their season is coming to an end. If you cant fathom that then that is your problem. There is no harm in giving Riewoldt an extended break of 2 weeks.
I can fathom it no problems, what I can't fathom is Knobs like yourself not wanting us to win the last couple of games and would prefer us to Tank instead :wallywink I'm pretty sure we just tought the last lot of Tankers a lesson did we not??
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Yep sure did ... with there best player and captain sitting on the bench for half a game. The reality is they have way more natural talent than we have. we need more talent to beat them on a consistent basis. at the moment Id suggest that in every 5 games, we have the capacity to beat them 1 time and they have the capacity to beat us 4 times. I'd like to us to get some nice picks so we can close the gap.
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Our captain was out too, big feckin deal so was Concs and he goes alright too imo and so was Moore, Grimey etc. Any other complaints about our win?
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Haha. LMAO @ coming on here and talking up the other club and bagging your own. We reckon other fans are feral....
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Yep sure did ... with there best player and captain sitting on the bench for half a game. The reality is they have way more natural talent than we have. we need more talent to beat them on a consistent basis. at the moment Id suggest that in every 5 games, we have the capacity to beat them 1 time and they have the capacity to beat us 4 times. I'd like to us to get some nice picks so we can close the gap.
This post proves how stuffed up you are, your not supporters behind, I'm happy to leave the tanking and cheating to Melbourne and take any win we can get...
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Discuss the topic ppl without the insults directed at other posters just because you disagree with their opinion!
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The 'injury' talk has all but disappeared. Finally Jack is starting to run back into some good form.
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The 'injury' talk has all but disappeared. Finally Jack is starting to run back into some good form.
Seems much better these last two weeks. Lost his uncanny accuracy infron of goal though. Reverted back to a longer run ups to set shots. Need to get back to a shorter run up and get those headphones on with the crowd noise during training ;) Happy to see him starting to jump again.
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Yep sure did ... with there best player and captain sitting on the bench for half a game. The reality is they have way more natural talent than we have. we need more talent to beat them on a consistent basis. at the moment Id suggest that in every 5 games, we have the capacity to beat them 1 time and they have the capacity to beat us 4 times. I'd like to us to get some nice picks so we can close the gap.
This post proves how stuffed up you are, your not supporters behind, I'm happy to leave the tanking and cheating to Melbourne and take any win we can get...
People do what they have to do to win. Losers like you just go on living in dreamland hoping for the best. If your happy consistently missing the finals thats up to you and the rest of the fools who over the years were happy to take cheap wins whilst other clubs got the best talent. ;D
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Yep sure did ... with there best player and captain sitting on the bench for half a game. The reality is they have way more natural talent than we have. we need more talent to beat them on a consistent basis. at the moment Id suggest that in every 5 games, we have the capacity to beat them 1 time and they have the capacity to beat us 4 times. I'd like to us to get some nice picks so we can close the gap.
This post proves how stuffed up you are, your not supporters behind, I'm happy to leave the tanking and cheating to Melbourne and take any win we can get...
People do what they have to do to win. Losers like you just go on living in dreamland hoping for the best. If your happy consistently missing the finals thats up to you and the rest of the fools who over the years were happy to take cheap wins whilst other clubs got the best talent. ;D
We will make the finals next season without having to tank! And I look forward to reminding you How much of an inpatient lame supporter you have been :wallywink
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I hope you are correct on that but at the moment we are a long way off and unless we do some outstanding recruiting the odds would be against it at the moment :cheers
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I hope you are correct on that but at the moment we are a long way off and unless we do some outstanding recruiting the odds would be against it at the moment :cheers
Agree, but unfortunately I don't think this is the season where we can afford to make huge list cuts either. This trade and draft period will really test our recruiters and show exactly where we are at as far as that side of the club goes, we can't afford to take any risks this time round.
We will also need to stay injury free, our back line has been derailed this season because of injury, I think with couple of key changes (Ruck and a Big Backman) and we remain injury free we will take those extra couple of wins next year that will push us into the bottom eight :cheers
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Looks like Franklin has all but wrapped up the Coleman after another 5 today. Jack's now 13 goals behind.
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yeah but no biggy really. He can have it, they were feeding him goals to make sure today ...was a bit gimp actually.
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Jack interviewed in the rooms after the game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/384264/default.aspx
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Jack just needs to kick a lazy dozen on Sunday to win the Coleman. Easy! ;D
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its not important, he has had a better yr than last yr, its not about the coleman
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its not important, he has had a better yr than last yr, its not about the coleman
Jacks year has been much worse than last year. Needs to be reprogramed over pre season. Needs to lead at the ball carrier more, this year he seems to want to try and turn his man around and run back towards goal. Needs to start deeper and be that lead up forward with big Vic being more of that stay at home forward.
Jack is unstopable when he is on the lead and jumping at the footy.
Still think he must be injured because he has been half the player he was last year!
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its not important, he has had a better yr than last yr, its not about the coleman
Jacks year has been much worse than last year. Needs to be reprogramed over pre season. Needs to lead at the ball carrier more, this year he seems to want to try and turn his man around and run back towards goal. Needs to start deeper and be that lead up forward with big Vic being more of that stay at home forward.
Jack is unstopable when he is on the lead and jumping at the footy.
Still think he must be injured because he has been half the player he was last year!
rubbish, he at times has had to play different roles in the team, his score assists and his influence on scores this yr has been fantastic. he does not need reprogramming, he was reprogrammed this yr to ensure we have a more unpredictable and potent fwd line, which he has been a big part of.
u obv do not understand the game too well
Edit: fixed quoting
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we dont need or want another richo centric fwd line
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its not important, he has had a better yr than last yr, its not about the coleman
Jacks year has been much worse than last year. Needs to be reprogramed over pre season. Needs to lead at the ball carrier more, this year he seems to want to try and turn his man around and run back towards goal. Needs to start deeper and be that lead up forward with big Vic being more of that stay at home forward.
Jack is unstopable when he is on the lead and jumping at the footy.
Still think he must be injured because he has been half the player he was last year!
rubbish, he at times has had to play different roles in the team, his score assists and his influence on scores this yr has been fantastic. he does not need reprogramming, he was reprogrammed this yr to ensure we have a more unpredictable and potent fwd line, which he has been a big part of.
u obv do not understand the game too well
Edit: fixed quoting
I understand the game just fine, I'm sure if we took a poll, pretty sure the result would tell you his year last year INDIVIDUALLY was better than this year. I know his roll has changed a bit in the team but if we are talking about better years, does that mean he will win another B&F?... Yer didn't think so!
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seriously u have no idea, footy is not an individual sport, its a team sport , and jacks yr has improved, just ask the coaching staff and players they will tell you.
you are just looking at how many goals he has kicked to assess his yr
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seriously u have no idea, footy is not an individual sport, its a team sport , and jacks yr has improved, just ask the coaching staff and players they will tell you.
you are just looking at how many goals he has kicked to assess his yr
A Coleman Medal, All Australlian and a B&F last year and you want to argue his season this year has been better.
Get over yourself :wallywink
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without jack playing his role and sacrificing his natural game, adelaide would have beaten us, it was what he did by taking ruttan out of the game and creating many scoring opportunities that go unnoticed by ppl like u. but th eppl that copunt notice, and jack wont win the b and f this yr because its cotchins, but that does not mean he has had a worse yr than last :wallywink :wallywink
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Hey Username, BigTone told me your soft like a pink cushion :whistle
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the X man speakuth the truth.
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lol, Nah Jack has had a niggle for a lot of games this year, he still led the coleman for most of this year, and created tons of opportunities for others. Jack will be devastating next year when he is 100%. Our forward line could be the envy of the competition soon.
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Hey Username, BigTone told me your soft like a pink cushion :whistle
the X man aint soft , but he does like a pink cushion :santa
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the X man speakuth the truth.
too right
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Leave out the namecalling from the discussion ppl just because another poster disagrees with you ::).
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the X man speakuth the truth.
too right
...for once :laugh:
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Tiger coach Damien Hardwick was particularly pleased that Riewoldt’s goal assists were well up on last season. He was ranked No. 1 in this category at the Club, with 21, and was No. 4 for marks (102).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/122914/default.aspx
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Jack Riewoldt requires four operations
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
September 14, 2011
THE full extent of Jack Riewoldt's injury issues have been revealed, with the star forward needing an extraordinary four post-season operations.
A banged-up Riewoldt has already had hip surgery and will soon go under the knife for another hip clean-up on the other side.
Richmond also confirmed Riewoldt needed finger surgery and an operation on his left ankle.
To cap it, Riewoldt also played out the season with significant rib cartilage damage after a training collision with teammate David Gourdis.
Riewoldt wore a thin, plastic guard to protect his ribs in at least two games after Gourdis had accidentally crunched him on the Thursday before Richmond's Round 15 clash against Carlton.
But the left ankle injury proved particularly debilitating for Riewoldt, who lost much of his trademark leap this season.
"Being on the left, it was his jumping leg, which affected his ability to leap at the ball," Tigers head of football Craig Cameron said yesterday. "But Jack wouldn't want to see the injuries used as an excuse."
Riewoldt's hip problems are similar to those that ended young Geelong ruckman-forward Nathan Vardy's season early.
Riewoldt improved in the final six weeks as he learned to manage the injuries, but the output from last year's Coleman medallist was down. In 22 games this year, he kicked 62.26 and took 102 marks. Last season in 22 outings, he booted 78.30 and took 123 marks.
Riewoldt won the club best and fairest last year, but finished ninth in last night's Jack Dyer Medal count.
The post-season clean-ups are unlikely to drastically affect Riewoldt's preparations for next year.
At 22, Riewoldt has become one of the superstars of the game and is the Tigers' most important player.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-requires-four-operations/story-e6frf9jf-1226136145617
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Tigers aiming to rebuild Riewoldt
Greg Denham
From: The Australian
September 14, 2011
RICHMOND has finally revealed why its crack full-forward Jack Riewoldt's season tapered off midway through the year.
Riewoldt, last year's Coleman medallist with a personal-best 78 goals, will soon enter hospital for operations on both hips, his left ankle and a finger.
The Tigers yesterday said his ankle injury, which is understood to have aggravated his hip problems, had hampered him during the second half of the season.
which is supported by a decrease in his goal-kicking output.
Up to the end of round 12, which included 11 Richmond games, Riewoldt kicked 38 goals. His average of almost four goals a game included his zero-possession effort in round two against the Saints when he was concussed in the first quarter and forced off.
In the Tigers' 11 remaining games, Riewoldt booted just 24 goals to take his season's tally to 62, the same as Collingwood's Travis Cloke and nine less than the Coleman Medal winner, Hawthorn ace Lance Franklin.
In the first half of the season, Riewoldt kicked six goals against Carlton in the opening round and two other bags of five, against North Melbourne and Brisbane, but after the injury, his best individual efforts were two four-goal hauls.
He played 57 consecutive games and the only match in which he failed to kick a goal for the first time since round two last year was when he was knocked out early against the Saints.
He is expected to be available for the majority of the Tigers' pre-season training prior to Christmas.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/tigers-aiming-to-rebuild-riewoldt/story-e6frg7mf-1226136190177
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Our season was over by round 15 as far as not being able to make the finals. So why did we continue to play him while injured rather than wrapping him in cotton wool for the rest of the season and putting him in for these surgeries at a earlier date so he would be definitely right by the start of the preseason in late Oct/early Nov ???.
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Common knowledge he needed Finger surgery.
His Twitter account was out of control
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It was the walking wounded at the B&F last night
Would think there is close to 9-10 in the number of blokes needing or who have had surgery
And Jack was one of the ones who wasn't hobbling around last night ;D
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Hopefully neil craig can help fix these issues if he comes accross
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why dont they just admit he had a very bad season
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why dont they just admit he had a very bad season
they did and it's because he was injured ;D
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why dont they just admit he had a very bad season
they did and it's because he was injured ;D
such a bad ankle & hips yet not limping ;D
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Where are all the bozos who came in here and attacked posters like me because we said Riewoldts season was over well before r24 and that he should be rested for the rest of the season so he can have a full preseason.
Now the truth comes out - 4 operations needed. If he'd gone in for surgery from the start of r16 or r17 he would have done a couple of operations already but nah ... lets keep our best players out on the field until their completely stuffed. Stupidity 100% stupidity from the RFC IMHO. Short sighted policys been exhibited once more. Very Very disappointing.
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I can imagine what would of happened, as it was Jack was being accused of being lazy, selfish, petulant etc, but without him the floggings would of been relentless and we would had bonfires at puntroad hysterical screaming and such.
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Where are all the bozos who came in here and attacked posters like me because we said Riewoldts season was over well before r24 and that he should be rested for the rest of the season so he can have a full preseason.
Now the truth comes out - 4 operations needed. If he'd gone in for surgery from the start of r16 or r17 he would have done a couple of operations already but nah ... lets keep our best players out on the field until their completely stuffed. Stupidity 100% stupidity from the RFC IMHO. Short sighted policys been exhibited once more. Very Very disappointing.
Yep Ramps it doesn't make sense. You don't mess around with your A-graders and keep them playing while injured when there's nothing but pride to play for. Jack should've been put into cotton wool in readiness for the 2012 preseason.
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Where are all the bozos who came in here and attacked posters like me because we said Riewoldts season was over well before r24 and that he should be rested for the rest of the season so he can have a full preseason.
Now the truth comes out - 4 operations needed. If he'd gone in for surgery from the start of r16 or r17 he would have done a couple of operations already but nah ... lets keep our best players out on the field until their completely stuffed. Stupidity 100% stupidity from the RFC IMHO. Short sighted policys been exhibited once more. Very Very disappointing.
Yep Ramps it doesn't make sense. You don't mess around with your A-graders and keep them playing while injured when there's nothing but pride to play for. Jack should've been put into cotton wool in readiness for the 2012 preseason.
Totally agree - when a season is shot absolute no point in playing injured players, especially your best ones
granted Jack's problems aren't major but seriously you play 'em injured you run the risk of either making the existing injuries worse or landing a new one caused be over compensating for an existing one
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Jack in hospital right now....
@JackRiewoldt08 Jack Riewoldt
"Sitting bed and I can't get the TV to work , to embarrassed to buzz the nurse because let's be honest what 22yo can't work a !! #dilemma"
Cotch said Jack having two hip arthroscopes.
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Where are all the bozos who came in here and attacked posters like me because we said Riewoldts season was over well before r24 and that he should be rested for the rest of the season so he can have a full preseason.
Now the truth comes out - 4 operations needed. If he'd gone in for surgery from the start of r16 or r17 he would have done a couple of operations already but nah ... lets keep our best players out on the field until their completely stuffed. Stupidity 100% stupidity from the RFC IMHO. Short sighted policys been exhibited once more. Very Very disappointing.
Great post :clapping
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You can see Jack tomorrow at Glenferrie Oval and help raise funds to help fight kids cancer...
From Jack Riewoldt's twitter...
"Glenferrie oval tomoz #ontheboot, come down and have some fun and help us raise some cash to help the fight against kids cancer!! #support"
"Forgot to mention #ontheboot starts at 12pm and goes to 3pm, come and along and have a kick with your fav AFL players!! #support"
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lol when I first read that, I thought is said, Jack was gonna fight kids with cancer and I thought...gee thats a bit rough...
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Jack in a cast after ankle surgery
http://yfrog.com/nw1bduj
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Jack in a cast after ankle surgery
http://yfrog.com/nw1bduj
Hopefully the Jumpman gets back to 100%.
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Trade out the broken down has been while he still has some currency, straight swap for Butcher?
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as long as we get pie and coke too
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Latest pic of Jack
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg815/scaled.php?tn=0&server=815&filename=m2hq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/mnm2hqj
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jack is an effing nineball
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lol he is a ratbag, he will be friggen scary at 100% next year considering what he achieved busted this year.
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Jack is a guest on 'Before the Game' tonight at 8.30pm.
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Going in for a 5th operation soon... wtf????? :banghead
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Going in for a 5th operation soon... wtf????? :banghead
Whats wrong this time?
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anyone got a run down on what was said? I missed the show, would appreciate it.
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Going in for a 5th operation soon... wtf????? :banghead
I was one of the bozo's with you TM, bloody stupid playing him, plain and simple stupid. I also called for them to rest a few others and play all the second tier players for the remainder of the season. pee poor managemnet of the players......again!!!!!
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Jack Riewoldt twitter:
"Just had my last op, tv is being replaced in my room.... Thankgod the IPad has NFL gamepass on it!!!"
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Going in for a 5th operation soon... wtf????? :banghead
Whats wrong this time?
not sure, just heard it was another op.
totally agree WAT, you cannot spin 5 ops into a no big deal. Its a very big deal and one of most valuable commodities will now have an interrupted pre season. Our preseason starts in about 3 weeks. How much will he miss? If its 2 weeks no porblem, if its a month or more, then heads need to roll
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lmao it's not like he's just had open heart surgery, a kidney transplant, 2 knee recos and a prosthetic testicle put in
pork chops
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lmao it's not like he's just had open heart surgery, a kidney transplant, 2 knee recos and a prosthetic testicle put in
pork chops
If he fronts up for a full preseason in 3-4 weeks then no biggie - If he misses a chunk a preseason which then affects his 2012 performance then its a load of poo and a stuffing crap call from the club gerks. If theres one thing that poos me more than the club making stupid arse calls, its supporters sweeping it under the carpet. Next season is a big season for this club and everything that is under our control we should be right on top of - this is one of them and we've managed it poorly.
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so we've managed it poorly already but if he fronts up for a full pre-season we haven't?
go early son :thumbsup
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so we've managed it poorly already but if he fronts up for a full pre-season we haven't?
go early son :thumbsup
:lol pretty much
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:lol
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classic OER posts in this thread :lol
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The way I see it is he has had 4 weeks advantage to start his ops and recovery than many of the 44 players who played Saturday that will too undergo clean outs and what not. /2cents
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Jack turned 23 yesterday :birthday. Just shows he's still got his prime years ahead of him.
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The Jack and Ty Show
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Fri 04 Nov, 2011
Star Richmond spearhead, Jack Riewoldt, has his sights sets on boosting the potency in his forward line partnership with tall teammate Ty Vickery in 2012.
Read full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/125786/default.aspx
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He won't be running until late November which means pre season interruptus
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Wonder where Griffiths fits into the forwardline? Will there be three talls? I'm struggling to remember if we played Miller with the other two last season :huh
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Our structure actually looked better when we had the three talls, i reckon. Vicks spends a fair bit of time in the ruck. It would be great if Griff could replace Miller.
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Riewoldt ready to roar for Tigers
Alex Fair
The Age
January 4, 2012
RICHMOND'S Tasmanian spearhead Jack Riewoldt is confident he will have a strong pre-season despite visiting the surgeon for hip, shoulder and finger tune-ups.
Though he has not yet started full training, the 23-year-old said he was happy with his progress.
''It's been a setback to my pre-season, but I'm running at the moment and I'll start weights pretty soon and I'm looking forward to tackling the pre-season,'' Riewoldt said.
''I'm a little bit leaner than I was this time last year. So hopefully I can get out there and continue to have that running game so I can play a variety of positions in the forward line.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-ready-to-roar-for-tigers-20120103-1pjld.html#ixzz1iPbEuBTd
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RFC... bloody fools, should of parked him up RND 16 and operated, we don't need him any bloody leaner, that's what he problem used to be. He was thrown out of the contest too easily in 2009....ffs.
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RFC... bloody fools, should of parked him up RND 16 and operated, we don't need him any bloody leaner, that's what he problem used to be. He was thrown out of the contest too easily in 2009....ffs.
Unless they want him to play as a hit up CHF. A role he is even more suited to than FF IMO.
His disposal and decision making is first rate. He is a goal creator just as much as a scorer.
Griffiths and Vickery can play out of the goal square.
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I'd trade him.
5 star stuffwit.
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I'd trade him.
5 star stuffwit.
>:(
How dare you
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Very easily. :shh
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I'd trade him.
5 star stuffwit.
wow
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RFC... bloody fools, should of parked him up RND 16 and operated, we don't need him any bloody leaner, that's what he problem used to be. He was thrown out of the contest too easily in 2009....ffs.
Unless they want him to play as a hit up CHF. A role he is even more suited to than FF IMO.
His disposal and decision making is first rate. He is a goal creator just as much as a scorer.
Griffiths and Vickery can play out of the goal square.
Ok, my main point was he should of been operated on and taken out about round 18. On your main point, that was what they wanted him to do last year pre season.......ended up in the square.
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RFC... bloody fools, should of parked him up RND 16 and operated, we don't need him any bloody leaner, that's what he problem used to be. He was thrown out of the contest too easily in 2009....ffs.
disgraceful that hes still not in full preseason training. I recall raising the issue of why somebody who needed 5 off season ops wasnt put out to pasture early and all the apologists on here were in typical "move along nothing to see here" mode, saying it was minor surgery and wouldnt affect his preseason ::)
well stuff me its january and half the preseason is gone before he starts full training. Way to go tigs, i'll bet those late season wins were worth it! :banghead
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Here is what the RFC site says today about Jack ...
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Jack Riewoldt did not take part in the time trial but Tiger fans need not be concerned. The Tiger spearhead took part an in solid football skills / running session back at Punt Road Oval.
He is expected to join in full training in the next few weeks and fitness staff have no concerns that he will be fit and firing on all cylinders when the 2012 season kicks off.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127695/default.aspx
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Matt Hornsby said Jack is in his final phase of his modified training before joining the main training group in a couple of weeks. Jack's doing plenty of volume and footy specific work which according to Hornsby is more intense than the run around the Tan they had today.
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The KP players did 4 x 500m runs according to Rance. thats probably what Hornsby is talking about
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From RFC twitter:
"Jack Riewoldt doing hard running session at PRO right now. Moving very well!"
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Hopefully he has a big year.
Keep his trade value high.
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Hopefully he has a big year.
Keep his trade value high.
TBR....I have to ask why you want a Coleman medalist from 2010 & runner up in 2011 traded? He probably would of won again this year if he hadn't played with so many injuries....
You seem to be developing a get rid of Edwards type of mentality that one poster on this forum has and it's unhealthy ............. :whistle
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it's a form of fishing WAT
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it's a form of fishing WAT
I think WAT might be engaging in a bit of double bluffing.....
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:lol :rollin
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it's a form of fishing WAT
I think WAT might be engaging in a bit of double bluffing.....
A bit of reverse burleigh me thinks
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This site is freaky deaky.
I never know who is being cereal anymore. :'(
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Hopefully he has a big year.
Keep his trade value high.
TBR....I have to ask why you want a Coleman medalist from 2010 & runner up in 2011 traded? He probably would of won again this year if he hadn't played with so many injuries....
You seem to be developing a get rid of Edwards type of mentality that one poster on this forum has and it's unhealthy ............. :whistle
It's not fishing, I genuinely dislike him.
Everytime I see him say or do anything off the field (and sometimes on it) he strikes me as a complete and utter idiot.
He can't even sing the club song after a win without making it all about him with his go tigers rubbish in the middle.
My dislike of his personality has overcome any acknowledgement of his footy ability.
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Hopefully he has a big year.
Keep his trade value high.
TBR....I have to ask why you want a Coleman medalist from 2010 & runner up in 2011 traded? He probably would of won again this year if he hadn't played with so many injuries....
You seem to be developing a get rid of Edwards type of mentality that one poster on this forum has and it's unhealthy ............. :whistle
It's not fishing, I genuinely dislike him.
Everytime I see him say or do anything off the field (and sometimes on it) he strikes me as a complete and utter idiot.
My dislike of his personality has overcome any acknowledgement of his footy ability.
I agree.. Hes a moron.. But him playing good footy makes me happy and helps me ignore his idiocy.
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All good forwards are stuffwits
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I like that he has a bit of arrogance about him. Nothing wrong with that as a power forward.
I think its sad that some people dislike Jack. He may be a bit of a goose, but he is a gun and he loves the club. I love the big lug.
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He's part of the family, you don't have to like him, but you do love him.
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If I had to choose between Jackson and Riewoldt, I'd take the big ginger wacko.
By which I mean Jackson seeing as they both fit that description, albeit for different reasons.
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If I had to choose between Jackson and Riewoldt, I'd take the big ginger wacko.
By which I mean Jackson seeing as they both fit that description, albeit for different reasons.
No we know your really taking the pee :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I am deadly serious.
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Thats even worse.
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Heaven help that we become a team of robots that becomes incapable of thinking on it's feet and doing the unexpected. JR's personality is one of the things that makes him stand out and in a team environment his type is essential for the good health of the team dynamics. The fact that he's a gun is a bonus. Would be a crime against the club of 'Whale Roberts' proportions (in a number of ways) if we let him go.
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Love Jack and his personality. Hope he's a Tiger for life and he has ten boys just like him. :thumbsup
Speaking of which when's Big Richo having children...?
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Love Jack and his personality. Hope he's a Tiger for life and he has ten boys just like him. :thumbsup
Speaking of which when's Big Richo having children...?
Already have several.
There are many similarities developing between Jack and Aker. These words will be seen as prophetic one day.
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Love Jack and his personality. Hope he's a Tiger for life and he has ten boys just like him. :thumbsup
Speaking of which when's Big Richo having children...?
Already have several.
There are many similarities developing between Jack and Aker. These words will be seen as prophetic one day.
:lol
If you are going to promote yourself as the Messiah then you probably need a new avatar to strengthen your cause!
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Love Jack and his personality. Hope he's a Tiger for life and he has ten boys just like him. :thumbsup
Speaking of which when's Big Richo having children...?
The inside word is 'sterile' as a steel morgue bench.
Copperfield, can you teach him some tricks with your magic wand?
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There are many similarities developing between Jack and Aker. These words will be seen as prophetic one day.
3 time premiership player and Brownlow medalist? 8)
The inside word is 'sterile' as a steel morgue bench.
Copperfield, can you teach him some tricks with your magic wand?
Say it ain't true Big Richo. Still spraying them wide of the mark.
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A man who ultimately was individual first, team second.
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A man who ultimately was individual first, team second.
Pfft. Didn't hurt Aker's team on their way to being arguably the greatest side in the modern era.
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:lol
Champagne comedy
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Lot of 'facts' there, I smell an character re-roll dungeon master!
LOL where did that post go!
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Jack to be on Ch 10 news .....
From: cozalive twitter
"@JackRiewoldt08 @Richmond_FC talking "Better Buddies" Does he hv any of his own? Find out @tennewsmelb @TenSportMelb"
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg858/scaled.php?tn=0&server=858&filename=mmvfhv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
http://yfrog.com/nummvfhvj
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to think he played with these injuries says a lot about this young
bloke....all goes well for the example he sets for the young kids coming
into the club in the future.... :thumbsup
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Jack said he's feeling fit and hopes to get a gig this Friday night. He missed week 1 of the NAB Cup last year so he's looking forward to the round-robin format.
While not mentioning the word 'finals', Jack also said we're heading in the right direction. Getting another 22 games into Dusty will only make him even better; Conca should play plenty of games this year; the newbies Ellis and Elton should see some action this year as should big Tommy Derickx.
Jack wasn't bullied or a bully at school. He was just a ratbag as his parents will atest ;D.
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Jack is joining Gold 104.3 FM this year as their footy comments man.
* Bridge is on board as a Tiger member.
* Jack doesn't care if it's 'Riewoldt' or 'Rievoldt'. Nick is more "antsy pantsy" about it lol.
* He couldn't boast about us beating Hawthorn as it reminded him he did play in it lol.
* Jake King already held the record for smallest person in the world so we needed to find another thing to break a record at so we chose push-ups.
* A lot of young guys improving which is the main goal. Most came in the last 2-3 years, learning their craft, and the job was to get as many games into them. That's done and now there's a fight for spots lead by Conca, Dusty and Cotch.
* Jack said the best looking readhead at Tigerland is Andrew Browne. Lehmo said it's Jack.
* Jack admitted he wore make-up in past team photos :wallywink
* 18 players on our list older than Jack out of interest.
http://www.gold1043.com.au/shows/breakfast/listen/brig-lehmo-announce-jack-riewoldt
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Jack is joining Gold 104.3 FM this year as their footy comments man.
* Bridge is on board as a Tiger member.
Didn't her ex hubby play for the Tigers in the mid 1980's ;D
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Wow did the big Riewoldt look the goods last nigh or what!
How good was that look away handpass :clapping
Looks set for another big year.
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absolute Gun. Will cause massive headaches this year.
So glad he is ours.
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I used to be dead set against him playing around HF. But after last night watching him play the team game, whoa :shh Seriously. He could run, mark, handball and pass. Even got involved in a boundary throw in tap up around HB.
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B grader according to some nuff nuffs
:ROTFL
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Love Jack and his personality. Hope he's a Tiger for life and he has ten boys just like him. :thumbsup
Speaking of which when's Big Richo having children...?
Already have several.
There are many similarities developing between Jack and Aker. These words will be seen as pathetic one day.
Had to correct TBRs comments, looked anything but Ackerlike last night. Might be sleeping on the couch tonight ;D
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Jack's quick hands against Freo last week :thumbsup
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/428486/default.aspx
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Jack with 4 goals and a speckie getting back closer to his injury-free best?
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/429316/Riewoldt%20hangers/
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Jack is a serious gun. So good around the ground. Not just a goal kicking machine.
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his ability to protect the space around him while he is air born reminds me of Gary senior
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His ability to create goals for teamates reminds me of no key forward I have seen.
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What I love about Jack also is his ground skills are great as well. Can bend down and get the footy dish off and his field kicking is precise also. Not just a player taking a speccy and kicking a few majors.
Most natural forward in the game. :thumbsup
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Dimma said he gave Jack a spray for his four first half misses....
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Jack Riewoldt (six goals) was held goalless by Tim Mohr in the first half but found his kicking boots at half-time after a few encouraging words from Hardwick.
''[He kicked] four points I think before he kicked six straight, so it took a little bit of time, he copped a little bit of a spray from the coach just to say make sure he finished his work,'' Hardwick said.
''The really pleasing thing from my point of view is he brought his teammates into the game a number of times and could've had a number of more shots early.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/folau-reported-in-giants-loss-20120317-1vccq.html#ixzz1pOifxDUK
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So really, Jack kept himself goalless by ways of inaccuracy, and when he found his kicking boots Tim Mohr was given a lesson.
Can't see how Jack was kept goalless by anyone but himself if he had 4 missed shots on goal?
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Jacks 5 ops appear to be having a limited impact to his preparation for 2012 :thumbsup
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Jack's 4 goals on Thursday night brought up his 200th (201 to be exact). The 20th Tiger to do so.
He’s booted 151 goals in his last 50 games, at a more than respectable average of three goals per match.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/132064/default.aspx
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He couldve been far more effective Thursday night if he didn't play like a lazy, big headed game as he did.
I hope he learns that selfishness won't get you very far. He Wouldve been far more effective working hard leading to space & showing leadership to vickery when he was having a bad day. I'm sure if he did this Vickery wouldve improved his output also and Jack wouldve kicked more goals when the game was there to be won. Not easy goals in junk time.
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Most of the game he had 2 direct opponents, and at other times had to fly against 3.
At least twice he was bumped/shepherded away from the contest before the ball was anywhere near the landing zone.
Terrific tackle led to one of his 4 goals.
To say he was lazy is misguided.
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Most of the game he had 2 direct opponents, and at other times had to fly against 3.
At least twice he was bumped/shepherded away from the contest before the ball was anywhere near the landing zone.
Terrific tackle led to one of his 4 goals.
To say he was lazy is misguided.
This.
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He was our only forward who looked dangerous. Not worried about Jack at all, he is going to have a ripper year. He is a great finisher which is why he can appear selfish or 'goal-hungry' at times. Our other forwards need to lift.
Ps. I reckon we are gonna put in a good showing this weekend.
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Being Jack
By Paul Daffey
afl.com.au
Fri 13 Apr, 2012
THE EARLY part of Richmond’s 2010 season was as bleak as old boots. It started when Carlton made the Tigers look third-rate in the opening round.
They went on to lose the opening nine games before finally cracking a win against Port Adelaide.
Two weeks later, Richmond played West Coast at the MCG. Two teams playing ordinary football. Not much expected.
Then Jack Riewoldt, the Tigers’ brash, bouncy, 21-year-old full-forward, kicked five goals in the opening quarter. In the last quarter, he lined up for his 10th.
Richmond fans didn’t quite believe it. This didn’t happen to the Tigers, a club that had played in two finals series in three decades. It happened to other clubs.
And yet here was Riewoldt, the player who everyone knew simply as ‘Jack’, lining up for the increasingly rare feat of a double-figure bag.
On kicking the goal, Riewoldt wheeled into the air. He swung his fist underneath and around and set off a wave of emotion that swept the stands.
Richmond fans clapped and clapped. They couldn’t stop clapping. For the first time in a long while, they were proud.
In that moment, Riewoldt became a Richmond cult figure, the playing face of the club. It would be a wild ride.
Richmond fans love Riewoldt for his displays of pleasure and pain.
He paws at the ground. He flies from four-deep. He yells at his teammates. He celebrates goals by doing little high-steps. He tries scissors kicks. He a clown. He’s a ringmaster.
In round two last year, against St Kilda, Riewoldt was knocked out when he hit his head on the turf after descending from the top of a pack. It was a Friday night.
Everyone could see he was dizzy. His eyes were rolling around like marbles. And yet he wanted to stay on. He wanted to ignore the medicos and keep playing, so he looked up to the coach’s box and made his feelings known.
On national television, he had a tantrum. His desire to play got the better of him. It was silly, but it was hardly a crime. Long live the passionate ones.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/newsId/132808/Default.aspx
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Being Jack
By Paul Daffey
afl.com.au
Fri 13 Apr, 2012
THE EARLY part of Richmond’s 2010 season was as bleak as old boots. It started when Carlton made the Tigers look third-rate in the opening round.
They went on to lose the opening nine games before finally cracking a win against Port Adelaide.
Two weeks later, Richmond played West Coast at the MCG. Two teams playing ordinary football. Not much expected.
Then Jack Riewoldt, the Tigers’ brash, bouncy, 21-year-old full-forward, kicked five goals in the opening quarter. In the last quarter, he lined up for his 10th.
Richmond fans didn’t quite believe it. This didn’t happen to the Tigers, a club that had played in two finals series in three decades. It happened to other clubs.
And yet here was Riewoldt, the player who everyone knew simply as ‘Jack’, lining up for the increasingly rare feat of a double-figure bag.
On kicking the goal, Riewoldt wheeled into the air. He swung his fist underneath and around and set off a wave of emotion that swept the stands.
Richmond fans clapped and clapped. They couldn’t stop clapping. For the first time in a long while, they were proud.
In that moment, Riewoldt became a Richmond cult figure, the playing face of the club. It would be a wild ride.
Richmond fans love Riewoldt for his displays of pleasure and pain.
He paws at the ground. He flies from four-deep. He yells at his teammates. He celebrates goals by doing little high-steps. He tries scissors kicks. He a clown. He’s a ringmaster.
In round two last year, against St Kilda, Riewoldt was knocked out when he hit his head on the turf after descending from the top of a pack. It was a Friday night.
Everyone could see he was dizzy. His eyes were rolling around like marbles. And yet he wanted to stay on. He wanted to ignore the medicos and keep playing, so he looked up to the coach’s box and made his feelings known.
On national television, he had a tantrum. His desire to play got the better of him. It was silly, but it was hardly a crime. Long live the passionate ones.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/newsId/132808/Default.aspx
Articles like this dont help us
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Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
April 13, 2012 9:07AM
And Carey, speaking on The Game Plan, took a light-hearted jibe at Tigers forward Jack Riewoldt, who has kicked four goals in the first two games of the year.
“If Denis Pagan was the coach of this bloke - and I’ve met Jack, he’s a lovely bloke and I think he’s a terrific footballer - he’d say `Jack, don’t worry about getting your hair cut like a goose, get short back and sides and go out there and play some footy’. That’s what Denis Pagan would say.
“And Damien Hardwick was coached by Denis Pagan and I’m tipping it’s in the back of his head and he wants to say it, but probably these new-age sensitive guys don’t do it any more.”
From: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/wayne-carey-richmond-have-it-all-on-the-line/story-e6frf9mx-1226325496195
Spot on Carey. sick of the pathetic jumping attempts too
Edited to add proper link to source document
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Then Jack Riewoldt, the Tigers’ brash, bouncy, 21-year-old full-forward, kicked five goals in the opening quarter. In the last quarter, he lined up for his 10th.
Richmond fans didn’t quite believe it. This didn’t happen to the Tigers, a club that had played in two finals series in three decades. It happened to other clubs.
RICHOOOO
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Then Jack Riewoldt, the Tigers’ brash, bouncy, 21-year-old full-forward, kicked five goals in the opening quarter. In the last quarter, he lined up for his 10th.
Richmond fans didn’t quite believe it. This didn’t happen to the Tigers, a club that had played in two finals series in three decades. It happened to other clubs.
RICHOOOO
lawl yes that was only a few years beforehand.
Paul Daffey = :wallywink
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Tigers' star Jack Riewoldt tackles bullying
Lucie van den Berg
From:Herald Sun
April 21, 2012
HE STANDS almost 2m, so it is hard to believe anyone would mess with Jack Riewoldt, but even the hardened footballer has been a target for bullies.
Now the Tigers sharpshooter is taking a stand against bullying and urging all Australians to follow.
He also warned that cyber bullying was one of the biggest threats to children.
"I have been bullied, but not to the extent that other kids have," Riewoldt said.
"I think every kid who has gone through school has unfortunately been on both sides of the fence - as a bully and being bullied."
Riewoldt is the official ambassador for the Alannah and Madeline Foundation, which aims to keep children safe from violence.
He wants bullying to be stamped out.
"We go to a lot of schools for junior clinics and it's something that a lot of our players see," he said.
"If we see kids misbehaving or acting badly towards another kid, then we will pull them out and deal with it.
"We need people to stand up and say, 'You shouldn't be bullying that kid' or, 'I am being bullied, I need help'."
Riewoldt said the issue was complicated because some children used bullying to deal with difficulties at home.
"It definitely exists in the community and unfortunately there are people who can't see past it," he said.
"The introduction on the internet of Twitter and Facebook in terms of cyber bullying is something that young adults and kids are having to deal with, because they are in these environments - that's the biggest issue going forward."
Riewoldt said he was one of three boys in a family with strong values.
"We were brought up very strongly against teasing and bullying," he said.
Richmond has announced the foundation will be its preferred charity partner for the next three years, a decision Riewoldt says carries extra significance for him because he is a Tasmanian.
It was formed after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre in which sisters Alannah and Madeline Mikac, aged six and three, were among the 35 people killed.
www.amf.org
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/tigers-star-tackles-bullying/story-fn7x8me2-1226334773146
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Poor leadership. This guy is such a wanker ::)
:shh
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If you didn't see Jack's disallowed mark in the third qtr, or the blokes chopping his arms you'd have to be suffering from Geischen syndrome. Even the commentators mentioned it.
I missed this post of yours RR. If those two were paid as they should've been then Jack would've walked away from the game with 3 goals from 7 shots which is a decent return. Jack had every right to be frustrated with the umps last week. The only thing I would tell Jack is next time to have his arms fully out-stretched when going for marks when in front of his opponent so the chopping of his arms is easily seen even for the dopey blind ump we had last week.
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Can you gentlemen please return to the topic at hand, ie that Jack Riewoldt is a flog and his attitude is costing us games.
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Jack Riewoldt plays the spoons very well
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Roos wants Riewoldt tackling
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
26 April 2012
AFL great Paul Roos wants Richmond goal-scoring ace Jack Riewoldt to model his game on former Sydney colossus Barry Hall.
Riewoldt has been down on his important scoring contributions in Richmond’s stuttering start to the season and confronts the miserly West Coast defence in Melbourne on Sunday.
Roos has appealed to the Tigers sharp-shooter and reputed scoring source to be more intent on crucial, team oriented forward line pressure efforts in a bid to replenish his personal goal supply.
Riewoldt, 23, has booted 6.9 from his opening four outings this year as the Tigers have stumbled into the new premiership season with a 1-3 start.
The star Tiger’s forward scoring avenue averaged four goals a game in 2010 when he won All-Australian selection with 78.39 and also managed 62.26 last season with significant increase in scoring assistance to teammates.
Riewoldt is headed for a showdown with in-form West Coast and reigning All-Australian full-back Darren Glass at Etihad Stadium or a vastly improved Eric Mackenzie, who is fresh from a shootout with gun Hawthorn forward Lance Franklin.
“He’s got to focus on tackling and chasing,” Roos said in a blunt assessment of the Tigers star on Fox Footy’s 'On the Couch' program early this week.
“It’s amazing when you do that as a forward.
“When ‘Hally’ was at his best at the Swans, he was one of the best forward fifty tacklers and chasers in the (AFL) competition.
“Goals tended to come after that.
“Those are the little things he needs to do.”
Roos expects Riewold’s renowned acts of demonstrative frustration when he is a victim of poor ball supply and delivery from his midfielders will be difficult for the emotional Tiger’s forward to quell.
The 2005 Sydney premiership coach compared the reigning Tigers star forward to former champion big man and ace goal-scorer Matthew Richardson.
Richardson booted 800 goals from his 282 Tigers games and is renowned for his open displays of disapproval at poor delivery from up field.
The popular former Tiger is now a top AFL television and radio commentator, along with Roos.
“It’s hard to change,” said Roos.
“We saw Matty Richardson and he’s one of the great players of all-time and I loved watching Matty.
“But even he said it was just so hard to change when you get into those habits.”
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/04/26/roos-wants-riewoldt-tackling/
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so break the habit now before it becomes ingrained. at the first sign of petulance, drag him for 5
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Will never be in the shadow of Richo......
If we had Richo now with this team we would be 4-0 ;D
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I'm trying too hard: Richmond star Jack Riewoldt
Daryl Timms
From: Herald Sun
April 27, 2012 2:00PM
RICHMOND'S Jack Riewoldt agrees with coach Damien Hardwick's assessment of his out-of-form full forward.
Riewoldt conceded today he is not playing well and perhaps, as Hardwick suggested, he's simply trying too hard to turn his form around.
Hardwick said yesterday the Tigers were also concerned about Riewoldt's defensive work.
Asked on Gold 104.3 today whether Hardwick was right, Riewoldt replied: "He probably is a little bit.
"No, he is the coach, he is definitely right. I'm not playing very well at the moment.''
Riewoldt said he was not going great after the standards he had set and what he hoped to achieve.
"I probably haven't started the way I want to, but I still have been having a few shots at goal,'' he said.
"I haven't been kicking well and I think I've kicked 6.10 or 6.11 this year.''
Riewoldt said he was normally a good kick for goal.
"I have probably been trying a little too hard which is something you do when you are under pressure and you want want to play good footy and you're not playing good footy,'' he said.
"Last week I tried to handball to Ty Vickery in the goal square and missed him by four metres which was a bit disappointing.''
Riewoldt, who won the Coleman Medal in 2010 with 78 goals, faces the unbeaten West Coast Eagles at Etihad Stadium on Sunday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/im-trying-too-hard-richmond-star-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frf9jf-1226340830940
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As much as Jack hasn't been on as far as kicking goals he is still leading in goal assists for us along with Lids (5 goal assists). So he is still contributing. The problem is his disposal has been off (53%) as that handball to Vickery's feet illustrated last week. His clanger stats (15) are on par with our inside mids who unlike Jack at least have the excuse of having to win and dispose of the footy under pressure and in traffic. Then add him kicking 6.9 for the year when last year he was usually one the most reliable kicks for goal. Jack needs to get back to the K.I.S.S. principle and play in front and lead up at the ballcarrier rather than falling for the old trap of trying to out-wrestle the full back all the time.
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And strutting around like his Gary Ablett. There was only one Gary Ablett er 2
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most have it qrong
jacks problem is he is not selfish enough and is trying to hard to be too team focused
the sooner he realises the best thing for the team is for him to be arrogant strutt is stuff and be a confidence beast and score goals the better.
all champion fwd have arrogance and use that to advantage
carey, brereton, ablett snr, brown, fevola, lockett, dunstall ,gherig, ,etc all arrogant, all confident all believed they were invincible
no one tells buddy to stop being arrogant and selfish
ffs everyones getting precious
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I agree. Jack's confidence is also an asset if used in the right way. As you say, many of the best forwards over the years have had an air of arrogance. I can understand how his body language peees people off though.
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i dont have a problem with a bit of arragnonce and self belief, but it poos me to tears to see those petulant sooks he sometimes has when he thinks he has been hard done by by the umps. if it happens early in the game it seems to affect his performance for the day
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Leigh Matthews said Jack needs to start with the defensive side of the game as everything builds up from there.
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Leigh Matthews said Jack needs to start with the defensive side of the game as everything builds up from there.
Roos said the same thing as Hall had to work on the same things. Hall and Mooney reckons when Jack is down he should go up the ground and get a cheap handball or tackle as they do wonders for confidence. Then the team can feed off of that.
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i dont have a problem with a bit of arragnonce and self belief, but it poos me to tears to see those petulant sooks he sometimes has when he thinks he has been hard done by by the umps. if it happens early in the game it seems to affect his performance for the day
richo was much worse than jack at this but everyone loved him, jack has a better footy brain than richo by a mile
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to be the best footballer he can, it needs to be eleiminated.
If they had knocked it out of richo early on he would have been a better footballer
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to be the best footballer he can, it needs to be eleiminated.
If they had knocked it out of richo early on he would have been a better footballer
bs, if richo kicked straight he would have been , nothing to do with his attitude ego or personality
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when you crack the sulks and it affects your performance, that is a something that can be improved. Richo was far from perfect and that was one of his weaknesses.
It is a problem with jack that he needs to address. If you think it is ok to sulk in a way that hinders your performance than what can i say?
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everyone is differentr, some ppl sulking getting angry makes them tick and perform, john mcenroe
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This article is a load of crap. He reckons he's trying too hard..... when?
All i've seen is
-him trying to wrestle and losing front position.
- no leading or presenting. Richo used to do this 3 or 4 times in one forward entry.
- not enough chasing or tackling.
Maybe he's talking about trying too hard at taking mark of the year but failing. This must be what he's talking about because he's playing very lazy footy in my opinion.
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everyone is differentr, some ppl sulking getting angry makes them tick and perform, john mcenroe
True, but from what i've seen so far it seems to affect jack negatively. I just want to see him put it out of his mind as quickly as possible and concentrate on creating the next opportunity
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everyone is differentr, some ppl sulking getting angry makes them tick and perform, john mcenroe
True, but from what i've seen so far it seems to affect jack negatively. I just want to see him put it out of his mind as quickly as possible and concentrate on creating the next opportunity
thats bec the fwd set up and structure is all wrong
no need for three talls, need 2 talls 4 smalls, he needs space and a mosquito fleet around him, atm he is his own mosquito fleet, he is at the contest always yet has no one there with him
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i dont think the structure is responsible for jack constantly playing from behind and trying to take a speccy all the time.
you seem to think that jack is flawless?
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u dont get it
the structure means he has no space to lead, they need to open up the fwd line, have better spread, so atm most of his options are pack marks and hangers
you dont get u neve rwill co u just dont understand the game
in his break out yr, this was happening
3 big men dont work in our fwd line
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:lol
whatever
jack is flawless and there is no problem with his attitude at times, it's all someone else's fault.
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no different to how richo played and he was fustrating at times but just sheer class.
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3 big men dont work in our fwd line
But it worked last year in a huge way
Problem this year is we have our 2 main fwds (Jack & Ty) horribly out of form
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Signs were there today that he is starting to control his domain. Big improvement by all 3 Fwds today but not good enough
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The vision after half time, before the game restarted showed a Physio working on his left groin.
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Signs were there today that he is starting to control his domain. Big improvement by all 3 Fwds today but not good enough
Yeah they're slowly getting there. Jack did something dumb in the last quarter and missed a sitter which killed us. Sick of saying it, but there is improvement.
I'm too shattered to care for the rest of the night now. I'm going to go do something else.
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The vision after half time, before the game restarted showed a Physio working on his left groin.
Rumour has it that he's carrying a groin injury and possibly shouldn't be playing. It's restricting his running and fully extending, and will be another 3-4 weeks before it comes good. Make of it what you will.
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Hard to imagine how a groin injury can improve while you're playing on it, Smoke. I guess he's got to protect it from stretching too far. It's gotta be hard to play like that.
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Yeah, thought the same thing Muscles. Was one of those 'talking to a friend of the physio' type rumours so I'm not staking my life on it's authenticity but knowing our club's history in this area it just wouldn't come as a shock if he was playing injured.
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Played with 2 cracked ribs since Round 1
Although players have played with worse
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I watched jr closely today....improved from 2/10 in ecent weeks to perhaps a 5/10......still could have been so much more, missed a couple of relative sitters from 30m out.....got plenty of mit to three marking contests and just failed to complete it including the last roll of the die, accept that was a difficult one.....but hey he has given us reason to raise the bar on expectations......he needs a real breakout game to get himself on a roll, the signs were there today.....notably, there wont be too many forwards that get a hold of the wc backline, bookmark that :shh
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I've also heard that he's playing with cracked ribs.
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thats why he went off before half time after the west players punched him in the guts .
he was down for a while in the middle of the ground
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Played with 2 cracked ribs since Round 1
Although players have played with worse
I heard the same thing but the issue seems much more linked to gis lack of mobility - leg, groin et
He isn't right and cannot run properly, will the club ever learn?
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yeh,well he's still a sook and spends too much time believing his own hype
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his not worth talking about
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his not worth talking about
And Robin joins us
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his attempt to short pass in the last quarter was laughable :lol
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Yeah. His mark and then goal from the boundary was hilarious too.
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Yeah. His mark and then goal from the boundary was hilarious too.
Dont bother Willy they are both long term jack hatersd
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Yeah. His mark and then goal from the boundary was hilarious too.
Carried on like he won tattslotto when he kicked it too
His pass and missed goal cost us the game
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he was so good he cost us the game.
Chuck no-one cares what you think
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he was so good he cost us the game.
Chuck no-one cares what you think
Actually I care what Chuck thinks. Makes a lot of sense usually, compared to some ::)
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well you must watch Batman & Robin, cause he sure have some fixation on them. Add Rewoldt & you got Catwoman as well :rollin
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BTW l dont know what people dont understand that the Full Forward is playing from behind still.
OMG any clown on the team could ride the pack like that.
The team were relying on him to kick that long goal he try to pass off, since his pot exhibition his not thinking clearly ;D
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well you must watch Batman & Robin, cause he sure have some fixation on them. Add Rewoldt & you got Catwoman as well :rollin
I know every time I read your posts it's like watching the Pink Gobbler. You got that guy? A big 12 inch sub specialist :yep
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I've also heard that he's playing with cracked ribs.
Not sure that can account for the dropped marks though ::)
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Jack's not quite back
Richmond's number one key forward, Jack Riewoldt, has had a similarly slow start to the season. His performance included a towering mark over champion Eagles defender Darren Glass and a team-lifting goal early in the final that gave the Tigers a four-point lead. But his confidence still looked down, and it sunk further when he missed a relatively simple chance to draw Richmond level with 3.26 remaining in the match.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/134397/default.aspx
And here's vision of Jack's speckie and goal from the 2nd quarter ...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/contentid/444694/default.aspx
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well you must watch Batman & Robin, cause he sure have some fixation on them. Add Rewoldt & you got Catwoman as well :rollin
I know every time I read your posts it's like watching the Pink Gobbler. You got that guy? A big 12 inch sub specialist :yep
:lol
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
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Made huge steps today for regaining his confidence and mojo. Not there yet but that mark and goal was very promising. Hopefully next game he is back in all his glory. :pray
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Lethal gave Jack some 'advice' just now on 3aw ...
Don't wrestle.
Disengage with your opponent.
Lead hard up the ground.
Lloyd said it's harder for Jack to push up to the wing as happens in modern footy as he doesn't have the speed to get back into the forward 50.
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Lloyd said it's harder for Jack to push up to the wing as happens in modern footy as he doesn't have the speed to get back into the forward 50.
:gobdrop ::) :gobdrop
Just because you couldn't do it Matthew and sooked when you were asked to ;D
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Pretty fair comment I would have thought. Lloyd did alright. only kicked 900
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lloyd is wrong cos kack is doing it and plugging holes in defence to help out to
\jack isnt as slow as he looks, lloyd = elephant poo
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Lloyd said it's harder for Jack to push up to the wing as happens in modern footy as he doesn't have the speed to get back into the forward 50.
:gobdrop ::) :gobdrop
Just because you couldn't do it Matthew and sooked when you were asked to ;D
So true. :thumbsup
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Pretty fair comment I would have thought. Lloyd did alright. only kicked 900
Yeah but 800 came from frees for diving. ;D
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would have though endurance would be more critical than speed when talking about getting back forward after pushing up the ground
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Lethal gave Jack some 'advice' just now on 3aw ...
Don't wrestle.
Disengage with your opponent.
Lead hard up the ground.
Good advice, but I don't want to see him leading too far up. When he takes the ball in the backline, it feels like he is getting in the way of things a little bit.
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VIDEO: Replay of Jack almost decapitating the goalumpire ...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/contentid/447013/goal+umpire+down/default.aspx
Jack's stats btw...
11 kicks (1 hball)
6 marks (1 contested, 5 in forward 50)
3 tackles
6 clangers
0-3 frees
1 inside 50
1 assist
2 one%ers
4 goals 2 behinds
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Really put his head down and attacked the footy after looking a bit sooky the first half, just as much a step in the right direction as stats :clapping
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Really put his head down and attacked the footy after looking a bit sooky the first half, just as much a step in the right direction as stats :clapping
Yep set up a goal with a hard attack at the contest and handball over the top.
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Thought his second half was as well as he has played this season, more of the same please, and that spells d a n g e r :shh
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the problem is vicks..do they drop him now ,and if we do who is there to help out Maric.
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
John Butcher is the new Cleve Hughes.
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
John Butcher is the new Cleve Hughes.
All I seen him doing was loping around in circles and when he gets a shot at goal from five metres out he misses everything.............dud
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Today I thought Jack was great at telling others to "get their arms" up and also his general leadership. :clapping What a leader. :clapping
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Today I thought Jack was great at telling others to "get their arms" up and also his general leadership. :clapping What a leader. :clapping
:clapping
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6 clangers, Jack needs to cut this out of his game or he will end up being a flash in the pan in this comp, even with a Coleman around his neck. I do not want to see this. I want to see Jack become a champion forward in the history of our club.
I realise Jack is a player that thrives on emotion, but he urgently needs to address the situation of how he handles frustration-it is affecting his game. I'm not just talking about the swearing at the umps or admonishing teammates for sloppy passing, but his frustration I feel is causing some very bad decision making from him.
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Robbo's view on Jack is mixed...
"Good and bad from Jack yesterday. In the first quarter, Jack blasted Robin Nahas for not kicking longer, which allowed Jack's opponent to mark on his chest. In fact, Jack gave Nahas two sprays for the error, which must sound terrible on the field. The good came with Jack kicking four goals and laying three tackles."
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/gold-coast-young-star-harley-bennell-has-footy-world-mesmorised/story-fn5937w8-1226348133334)
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Robbo forgot about his leadership. :clapping
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His attitude stinks
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Today I thought Jack was great at telling others to "get their arms" up and also his general leadership. :clapping What a leader. :clapping
This is shpot on
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Today I thought Jack was great at telling others to "get their arms" up and also his general leadership. :clapping What a leader. :clapping
:clapping
Avatar is Dea-licious
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Jack's interview today was just on Ch 9 news. He said there's no injury and his dip in form was due to a poor attitude. Basically got a rocket from Dimma. Jack said you don't want a coach who is "peeing in your pocket"; you want honest feedback. As far as the team as a whole, Jack said you can feel we are improving and the results so far are showing that. Exciting times.
Edit: Here's the vision of Jack's press conference today ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/447619/Jack%20Riewoldt%20Press%20Conference/
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His attitude stinks
Correct
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt thanks coach Damien Hardwick for honest feedback
Eliza Sewell
From: Herald Sun
May 08, 2012 12:36PM
JACK Riewoldt hopes he's emerged from his form slump
And the Richmond forward has thanked coached Damien Hardwick for not "peeing in my pocket" during his slow start to the season.
Riewoldt, who kicked four goals in the Tigers' win against Port Adelaide on Sunday after a poor start to season 2012, said had appreciated Hardwick's honest feedback early in the season.
"You don't want the senior coach peeing in your pocket, telling you, 'You're going all right, things will turn around'," he said.
"You want honest feedback. If you want to be a good player in the AFL you've got to be ready to hear that sort of stuff and you've got to be willing to act on it."
He said he had not been carrying any injuries, despite speculation he had a rib issue.
"I'm fighting fit, just a bit of a form slump," he said.
"Hopefully I'm over the hill now with all the injuries from last year and over the hill with the form slump as well.
"Coming off a few injuries last year, (I) thought I was going to walk back in and start playing really good footy straight away but it's been a bit of a solid slog.
"I was lucky enough to get on the end of a few on the weekend but it really comes down to, it's about the tackling, the little one per centers and leading the forward line, which I thought I did reasonably well on the weekend."
Riewoldt also praised recruit Ivan Maric.
"Don't be surprised in future years if you see Ivan Maric in the leadership group at the Richmond Football Club," he said.
"He's an outstanding person, he's got great core values ... his game on the weekend was probably a bit of reward for some really solid hard work.
"He trains hard, he's very professional and he's been really important to our improvement this year."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-thanks-coach-damien-hardwick-for-honest-feedback/story-e6frf9jf-1226349777369
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Form slump not injury, says Tiger Riewoldt
May 8, 2012 - 3:39PM
Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt denies he has been injured and thanked coach Damien Hardwick for some tough love during his form slump.
After a lean start to the season, Riewoldt showed better signs when he kicked four goals in Sunday's much-needed win over Port Adelaide.
There was speculation that Riewoldt had been carrying an injury, but the 2010 Coleman Medallist said his problems were all due to mindset.
"I thought I was going to walk back in and start playing really good footy ... but it's been a bit of a solid slog," he said.
"It really comes down to me, it's about the tackling, it's about the little one percenters and leading the forward line, which I thought I did reasonably well on the weekend.
"It's been widely speculated that I'm struggling with injuries at the moment, but I'm fighting fit.
"It's just a bit of a form slump."
Riewoldt said he appreciated Hardwick's no-nonsense attitude to his early-season form, saying he knew exactly where he stood with the Tigers coach.
"You don't want the senior coach peeing in your pocket, telling you 'aw, things are going all right, you'll turn it around' and all that sort of stuff," he said.
"You want honest feedback.
"If you want to be a good player in the AFL, then you've got to be ready to hear that sort of stuff and willing to act on it, too."
Fellow key forward Ty Vickery has also struggled for form as the Tigers have started the season with two wins from six games. But they nearly pulled off upsets against Geelong and West Coast before winning against the Power.
"One thing that's been positive for us is we've been able to be in games and our forward (line) hasn't really been functioning as well," Riewoldt said.
"It started clicking a bit better on the weekend - Brad Miller was sensational with his role on (Troy) Chaplin."
Riewoldt is pleased with the Tigers' improvement, but said they will face a massive test on Saturday against Sydney at the MCG.
The Swans will be without star forward Adam Goodes, who is out for six weeks with a leg injury.
But unlike North Melbourne coach Brad Scott, who was openly delighted last month when Goodes was suspended for their match, Riewoldt said he was more worried about the Swans talent that will play against the Tigers.
"He's a great player and obviously a dual Brownlow medallist ... but they have stars left, right and centre," Riewoldt said.
"(Luke) Parker is one kid who's really impressed me, 'Joey' Kennedy - he's nearly been the form player of the competition this year.
"So we're focussing on who they have out there, not who they haven't."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/form-slump-not-injury-says-tiger-riewoldt-20120508-1yahq.html#ixzz1uGWypSQ5
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
John Butcher is the new Cleve Hughes.
All I seen him doing was loping around in circles and when he gets a shot at goal from five metres out he misses everything.............dud
yeah Butcher missed a easy shot in heavy rain & wind just like The Coleman Medallist kicks them out on the full every game & misses easy shots on good days. l would back Butcher in front of goals with 20 shots each, than fancy Jack who berates at his own players ;D :rollin
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
John Butcher is the new Cleve Hughes.
All I seen him doing was loping around in circles and when he gets a shot at goal from five metres out he misses everything.............dud
yeah Butcher missed a easy shot in heavy rain & wind just like The Coleman Medallist kicks them out on the full every game & misses easy shots on good days. l would back Butcher in front of goals with 20 shots each, than fancy Jack who berates at his own players ;D :rollin
And that's why your an internet nuffer and not a coach.
Butcher over Jack. Nice one! :lol
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Form slump not injury, says Tiger Riewoldt
May 8, 2012 - 3:39PM
Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt denies he has been injured and thanked coach Damien Hardwick for some tough love during his form slump.
After a lean start to the season, Riewoldt showed better signs when he kicked four goals in Sunday's much-needed win over Port Adelaide.
There was speculation that Riewoldt had been carrying an injury, but the 2010 Coleman Medallist said his problems were all due to mindset.
"I thought I was going to walk back in and start playing really good footy ... but it's been a bit of a solid slog," he said.
"It really comes down to me, it's about the tackling, it's about the little one percenters and leading the forward line, which I thought I did reasonably well on the weekend.
"It's been widely speculated that I'm struggling with injuries at the moment, but I'm fighting fit.
"It's just a bit of a form slump."
Riewoldt said he appreciated Hardwick's no-nonsense attitude to his early-season form, saying he knew exactly where he stood with the Tigers coach.
"You don't want the senior coach peeing in your pocket, telling you 'aw, things are going all right, you'll turn it around' and all that sort of stuff," he said.
"You want honest feedback.
"If you want to be a good player in the AFL, then you've got to be ready to hear that sort of stuff and willing to act on it, too."
Fellow key forward Ty Vickery has also struggled for form as the Tigers have started the season with two wins from six games. But they nearly pulled off upsets against Geelong and West Coast before winning against the Power.
"One thing that's been positive for us is we've been able to be in games and our forward (line) hasn't really been functioning as well," Riewoldt said.
"It started clicking a bit better on the weekend - Brad Miller was sensational with his role on (Troy) Chaplin."
Riewoldt is pleased with the Tigers' improvement, but said they will face a massive test on Saturday against Sydney at the MCG.
The Swans will be without star forward Adam Goodes, who is out for six weeks with a leg injury.
But unlike North Melbourne coach Brad Scott, who was openly delighted last month when Goodes was suspended for their match, Riewoldt said he was more worried about the Swans talent that will play against the Tigers.
"He's a great player and obviously a dual Brownlow medallist ... but they have stars left, right and centre," Riewoldt said.
"(Luke) Parker is one kid who's really impressed me, 'Joey' Kennedy - he's nearly been the form player of the competition this year.
"So we're focussing on who they have out there, not who they haven't."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/form-slump-not-injury-says-tiger-riewoldt-20120508-1yahq.html#ixzz1uGWypSQ5
PMSL... :lol
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butcher is an overrated lazy poo, not jacks ahole. jack is jack and is a champ
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Cleve Hughes got less chances then this bloke
John Butcher is the new Cleve Hughes.
All I seen him doing was loping around in circles and when he gets a shot at goal from five metres out he misses everything.............dud
yeah Butcher missed a easy shot in heavy rain & wind just like The Coleman Medallist kicks them out on the full every game & misses easy shots on good days. l would back Butcher in front of goals with 20 shots each, than fancy Jack who berates at his own players ;D :rollin
this is classic PMSL. :clapping
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And that's why your an internet nuffer and not a coach.
Butcher over Jack. Nice one! :lol
yeah l have to hang this up on the board at the club tomorrow night, everyone will have a good laugh at Willy ;D
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Oh yes, i'm sure all the fellas at 'the club' will be very impressed with your internet forum gags.
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Oh yes, i'm sure all the fellas at 'the club' will be very impressed with your internet forum gags.
l'm sure a few on here are already :rollin
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Eating our own again.
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thats why that part of Australia broke off the mainland. ;D
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thats why that part of Australia broke off the mainland. ;D
Let's not forget it was the peoples of "That part of Australia" that founded Melbourne ;) ;)
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Jack Riewoldt just starting to get warm
Glenn McFarlane
From: Sunday Herald Sun
May 13, 2012
JACK Riewoldt is still a fair way short of his best, but he is slowly clicking into gear after a slower than expected start to the season.
Richmond scored back-to-back wins with last night's 29-point win over Sydney, and it was also back-to-back four-goal performances from Riewoldt.
And there's more upside, as the Tigers' spearhead still has plenty of room for improvement ahead of a crunch month in which Richmond takes on Essendon in the Dreamtime Game at the MCG ahead of other key games against Hawthorn and St Kilda.
Riewoldt admitted during the week that he had been slow to run into form this season, and acknowledged that coach Damien Hardwick had had some serious discussions with him.
But although he isn't getting his hands on the ball too often, he is making the most of those opportunities, even if his form has been spasmodic.
Again he had less than 10 possessions last night, but he still got on the scoreboard.
Riewoldt booted the opening goal to give his team the perfect introduction as the Swans had controlled the early ball in the first two minutes. That set the scene for a dominant Tigers opening quarter that effectively won them the match.
And he followed it up with another at the 19-minute mark of the first term as the Swans were kept goalless in that quarter.
He wasn't as effective through the middle stages of the game, but his teammates kept the pressure up. Then Riewoldt bobbed up with two more goals in the last term, to help stop a threatened Sydney comeback.
Hardwick knows that Jack can do more to get himself into the game. But when he is kicking four goals, and the team is winning, that's enough for now.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/jack-riewoldt-just-starting-to-get-warm/story-e6frf9jf-1226353814772
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Jack sets scene
The Mercury
May 13, 2012
JACK Riewoldt is still a fair way short of his best but the Tasmanian is slowly clicking into gear after a slower-than-expected start to the season.
Richmond scored back-to-back wins with last night's defeat of Sydney and it was also consecutive four-goal performances from Riewoldt.
The Tigers spearhead has room for improvement ahead of a crunch month in which Richmond takes on Essendon, Hawthorn and St Kilda.
Riewoldt admitted during the week that he had been slow to run into form this season, and acknowledged coach Damien Hardwick had had some serious discussions with him.
But although he is not getting his hands on the ball too often, he is making the most of those opportunities.
Again he had fewer than 10 possessions last night but still got on the scoreboard early, booting the opening goal.
That set the scene for a dominant Tigers opening quarter that effectively won them the match, and he followed it with another late in the first.
Then Riewoldt bobbed up with two more goals in the last term to help stop a threatened Sydney comeback.
Hardwick knows his star forward can do more. But when he is kicking four goals, and the team is winning, that's enough for now.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2012/05/13/327911_afl.html
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Reckon I saw that Jack had an ice pack on the inside of his thigh while he was interviewing Conca for the club video. If he's not carrying an injury, it must have been an exciting interview.
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Quick let's trade him... :whistle :whistle ::) ::).......
Get rid of him, Nahas, Foley....the lot of them.....then we can rebuild again and again and again...
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Jack is not for sale
Nahas though....., no one would have him he is too small
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Jack is not for sale
Nahas though....., no one would have him he is too small
I don't agree. Alot of people like nahas including alot on this forum. I think there will be a few clubs willing to have him on their list as a "lively goal sneak" with good defensive side to his game.
Time to trade him is at seasons end.
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Jack is not for sale
Nahas though....., no one would have him he is too small
His team mates don't think he is too small :o
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still dont like his game. Yes he kicks goals but he should be working harder & following the play through instead of stopping. this lets the other team get the ball out easy. Also expects his teammates to do the hard work while he watches. Dimma really needs to jump on this guy now & lay the law down to him.
Once this is done you will see more goals & less strain on the team overall.
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Jack is not for sale
Nahas though....., no one would have him he is too small
His team mates don't think he is too small :o
LOL yeh spose he is big where it counts
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can touch the bottom of a pint glass
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Jack is not for sale
Nahas though....., no one would have him he is too small
His team mates don't think he is too small :o
LOL yeh spose he is big where it counts
Maybe that's why they keep kickin it to him. Scared of getting clubbed. :-\
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Riewoldt 'starting to warm up'
Jared Lynch
The Age
May 16, 2012
JACK Riewoldt is playing at an ''acceptable'' standard, with the key forward yet to put on his ''kicking boots'' this season, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says.
Riewoldt managed 10 possessions in Saturday's win against Sydney, but still kicked 4.4.
Although he feels his season is starting to warm up, Hardwick said Riewoldt was still off his best.
''He doesn't lose his mojo that often,'' Hardwick said yesterday. ''The good thing about him is he's starting to get some scoreboard recognition.
''[But] overall, he is performing at a standard that is acceptable, it's probably not to the level that we know he can play at. His kicking boots haven't been on this year. I think he's kicked more points than goals, mind you, 'Buddy' [Hawthorn's Lance Franklin] is in the same boat at the moment.
''We have just got to make sure that when he does take his opportunities, he converts them on the scoreboard.''
While Riewoldt hadn't been at his attacking best, Hardwick said he was playing good, defensive footy.
''People are very harsh on him in regards to his output offensively, but defensively and from a contested possession wise, he's actually holding the fort reasonably well.
''Defensively, he's leading our tackles inside 50, he's leading the AFL, I think, in ground ball inside 50s.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-starting-to-warm-up-20120515-1yp2a.html#ixzz1uxTFgkZl
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WHAT'S WRONG WITH JACK RIEWOLDT?
Glenn McFarlane
From: Herald Sun
May 20, 2012
Yes, the 2010 Coleman Medal winner has kicked 17 goals this season, but something's missing, and it's hurting the Tigers.
Three times this season he has kicked four goals in a game, but he hasn't been anywhere near the damaging form of the past. He was kept in check in the Dreamtime game, kicking one goal, and struggling to impact on the game.
What Jack needs is a bit of space, and some renewed confidence. He needs to get on the lead more often, instead of being seemingly obsessed with locking arms with his opponents in forward grapples.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/what-dreamtime-means-for-the-bombers-and-tigers/story-fnd00whc-1226361276913)
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I thought Jack was a huge part of our push towards a premiership. Right now I'm not so sure.
Worrying.. :huh
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I thought Jack was a huge part of our push towards a premiership. Right now I'm not so sure.
Worrying.. :huh
Jack certainly will play a big part in that push but he desperately needs help from those around him. We need Vickery, Miller or someone else to fire p in the onward line to take some attention away from jack, at the moment that's all there worried about, no backman give a rats weather Any other forward gets the ball because there doing nothing with it after they et it!!!
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needs his teammates to tell him what they really think of his performances and get his head back in the game
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I thought Jack was a huge part of our push towards a premiership. Right now I'm not so sure.
Worrying.. :huh
Jack certainly will play a big part in that push but he desperately needs help from those around him. We need Vickery, Miller or someone else to fire p in the onward line to take some attention away from jack, at the moment that's all there worried about, no backman give a rats weather Any other forward gets the ball because there doing nothing with it after they et it!!!
Yes I have to agree. It's the old predictability or 'kick it to Richo' factor once again. We are looking for Jack 9 times out of ten at the moment, especially with Miller pushing up the ground more. We are missing another tall target at the moment and another tall CHF who can roost the ball quickly to Jack and co who are one out.
So Vickery needs to come in and Dimma needs to direct our mids to look for him first.
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Jack doesnt need team mates to fire to make him better, who was his big help in his coleman year? Did it ll himself
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He is rapidly becoming the Adrian McAdam of Richmond.
Looks lost in a congested forward line
Not moving toward the midfielders with purpose or intent
Getting sucked into the stay at home wrestling one on one contest, not his bag
Is he injured?
Are there personal issues?
Is he not good enough?
Whats the go? :huh
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Lets just wait till we've played every team in the comp.
Easy for fat pig Crabs Crameri to look good when he's played the bottom half of the ladder already.
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most big fwds this yr are not playing as good except for a couple and thats due to the congested fwd lines now
he had 5 surgeries in the pre season give him another few weeks , he is on the cusp, he will get his mojo back and he is still having a big hand in many goals
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Yr G B Conversion
10 78 39 66%
11 62 26 70%
12 17 18 48%
Missing goals he's kicked previously. Got to get back to what worked.
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Getting sucked into the stay at home wrestling one on one contest, not his bag
He has tried to avoid this for the last couple of weeks and on a number of occasions has pulled out late and tried to rove from front and centre. Problem is that he is leaving a smaller player to do the marking and they can't even get enough hand on it to get it to the front of the pack. And I agree that the congestion is getting to him, he needs to remain patient and he will get his chances. He's getting there.
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What is wrong with Jack?
Nothing.
Not enough consistent delivery into the forward line to his advantage?
Just the same situation as when Richo and Disco didn't get proper delivery.
Put someone in a proper position to hit him up and Jack will be our hero, AGAIN.......or should I say AS ALWAYS.....since Richo retired.
That player has been killing them at Coburg. He wears the number 66 down there.
Clickitty Click. 66. Just what Jack has been screaming for.
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I don't get down coburg very often mate, tell us again who's sporting 66? ;D
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Yr G B Conversion
10 78 39 66%
11 62 26 70%
12 17 18 48%
Missing goals he's kicked previously. Got to get back to what worked.
so is buddy missing easy shots this yr so what , it happens and hi has hit many posters on tough angles this yr too but those stats dont show that
statistics statistics, also know as bs
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I don't get down coburg very often mate, tell us again who's sporting 66? ;D
He is the guy that meets Dimma's expectation of consistent deliver into the forward 50.
Nice try though Gerks.
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Greg struggles with getting the pill at AFL level though. I still hope he comes good.
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Yr G B Conversion
10 78 39 66%
11 62 26 70%
12 17 18 48%
Missing goals he's kicked previously. Got to get back to what worked.
so is buddy missing easy shots this yr so what , it happens and hi has hit many posters on tough angles this yr too but those stats dont show that
statistics statistics, also know as bs
Sure there will be anomalies in the stats but you only have to use your eyes to know he's not kicking as well this season as he has in the past. He's been a dead eye dick til this year but he's clearly off both from set shots and in open play.
His inaccuracy has lead his coach to comment on it several times. Rightly so.
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most big fwds this yr are not playing as good except for a couple and thats due to the congested fwd lines now
he had 5 surgeries in the pre season give him another few weeks , he is on the cusp, he will get his mojo back and he is still having a big hand in many goals
Very good point actually, I couldn't believe how congested our forward line was against the Bombers. They absolutely flooded the he'll out of it and our players went with them, we really had to fight for our goals in the forward line when the ball went to ground. Also, they blanketed Jack, had a pack on him when the ball came in. He found it hard to lead because they was no space to lead into, we couldn't get the ball in quick enough before they got back.
Frankly, I would like to see Jack build a bigger ticker and play a Richo role, run the wings and go forward. Bit like Buddy does now.
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Greg struggles with getting the pill at AFL level though. I still hope he comes good.
Spot on coach.
BUT
When Greg busts his gut to get into space in the right position, why don't his teamates spot him up instead of kicking it to a contest?
That is why his pace is important.
I don't understand why the Coach is dropping the player that makes position instead of the player who makes a wrong decision and misses the player in the right position......and in space.....so often.
If Greg's teamates kicked the ball to him, his stats would be sensational.
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Frankly, I would like to see Jack build a bigger ticker and play a Richo role, run the wings and go forward. Bit like Buddy does now.
This will never happen. For obvious reasons, Jack is not Richo (or Buddy for that matter).
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Ekto, that idea of poor delivery into the forward line was there in the past 2 seasons and yet this year he is struggling to have impact.
The poor kicking for goal was another thing, that and his lack of mobility led me to question whether he was fully fit, how is his groin?
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Ekto=Greg White
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
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Jack has been down on confidence particularly his kicking. He has missed shots he would normally get. Agree the fact that the other tall forwards are not performing increases the pressure on Jack and means that opposition players can simply leave their man to help foil Jack. Patience is required. Gut running by Jack is required and clever use of the ball into the forward line is required. I confident he will be good soon.
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What about Malthouse saying his 3 year old grandson is a better player than Miller. :lol
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Malthouse :shh
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He is to busy pointing towards where he wants the ball kicked and won't lead.
That is the problem.
For all the advice he gives to others he would want to lift or shut up and just play.
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He is to busy pointing towards where he wants the ball kicked and won't lead.
That is the problem.
For all the advice he gives to others he would want to lift or shut up and just play.
Correct !!.
Reckon he has lost the plot as well.
Start of last week games, he was up to his usal antics in regards to getting the players in the goal square in front of the cheer squad for the last minute rev up,
what he didnt realise the cheer squad wasnt at the Punt Rd end last week, but the ponsford. ::)
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
miller is a liabilty.
He can't kick over 40 metres. His skills are substandard and he lacks one key ingredient... Talent.
I can tell you of 4 occasions in the 3rd qtr of last weekends game he either got in jacks way or failed to capitalize on jacks Or other players good work to set him up.
If your gonna play him it would be more benificial to the team if he played inside the square and reiwoldt can play further forward say 40 metres out.
Jack has talent and the x factor and can make something out of limited opportunity. Whereas miller struggles to even catch a handball straight to the chest.
If miller were to play in the square and manages to hold a mark because his direct opponent is busy trying to help stop Jack then he isn't to far away from goal and hopefuly unlikely to miss. Also he is less likely getting in jacks way.
That said I hope miller never plays again.
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Ekto=Greg White
sheesh I've been banned for less ::)
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well its true ;)
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
miller is a liabilty.
He can't kick over 40 metres. His skills are substandard and he lacks one key ingredient... Talent.
I can tell you of 4 occasions in the 3rd qtr of last weekends game he either got in jacks way or failed to capitalize on jacks Or other players good work to set him up.
If your gonna play him it would be more benificial to the team if he played inside the square and reiwoldt can play further forward say 40 metres out.
Jack has talent and the x factor and can make something out of limited opportunity. Whereas miller struggles to even catch a handball straight to the chest.
If miller were to play in the square and manages to hold a mark because his direct opponent is busy trying to help stop Jack then he isn't to far away from goal and hopefuly unlikely to miss. Also he is less likely getting in jacks way.
That said I hope miller never plays again.
Miller has played over 150 AFL Games without talent?? ::)
What are you on, seriously
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He's an arrogant idiot?
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
:huh
in 2010 we kicked a total score of 1714
in 2011 we kicked a total score of 2069.
so if we kicked a higher total score, that that must mean others have kicked more goals than in 2010.
despite kicking less goals jack had more more goal assists in 2011 than 2010, more than his goals kicked dropped by.
so in 2011 he was involved in creating more goals than 2010
:huh
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
miller is a liabilty.
He can't kick over 40 metres. His skills are substandard and he lacks one key ingredient... Talent.
I can tell you of 4 occasions in the 3rd qtr of last weekends game he either got in jacks way or failed to capitalize on jacks Or other players good work to set him up.
If your gonna play him it would be more benificial to the team if he played inside the square and reiwoldt can play further forward say 40 metres out.
Jack has talent and the x factor and can make something out of limited opportunity. Whereas miller struggles to even catch a handball straight to the chest.
If miller were to play in the square and manages to hold a mark because his direct opponent is busy trying to help stop Jack then he isn't to far away from goal and hopefuly unlikely to miss. Also he is less likely getting in jacks way.
That said I hope miller never plays again.
Miller has played over 150 AFL Games without talent?? ::)
What are you on, seriously
now Im sure your must be mates with miller.
Melbourne are an unproffessional, mediocre rabble of a club with bad culture. They were stupid picking him up or ruined his development. They finally came to their senses and delisted him.
We as a club haven't faired much better than melbourne in recruiting and development but we seem to be improving. But we were wrong and stupid to pick him up.
if you watched last weeks game closely you would know that as little as reiwoldt did he still did much more than Miller regardless of the score both contributed.
You wanted the great Mick malthouse to coach us. He doesn't rate Miller at all.
So I'll take what Mick says on this topic.
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
:huh
in 2010 we kicked a total score of 1714
in 2011 we kicked a total score of 2069.
so if we kicked a higher total score, that that must mean others have kicked more goals than in 2010.
despite kicking less goals jack had more more goal assists in 2011 than 2010, more than his goals kicked dropped by.
so in 2011 he was involved in creating more goals than 2010
:huh
Unfortunately I am work and do not have stats at my disposal but has jacks fellow forwards increased their output or is it coming from the mid field? My point being that the other forwards do not seem to taking any pressure off jack.
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
miller is a liabilty.
He can't kick over 40 metres. His skills are substandard and he lacks one key ingredient... Talent.
I can tell you of 4 occasions in the 3rd qtr of last weekends game he either got in jacks way or failed to capitalize on jacks Or other players good work to set him up.
If your gonna play him it would be more benificial to the team if he played inside the square and reiwoldt can play further forward say 40 metres out.
Jack has talent and the x factor and can make something out of limited opportunity. Whereas miller struggles to even catch a handball straight to the chest.
If miller were to play in the square and manages to hold a mark because his direct opponent is busy trying to help stop Jack then he isn't to far away from goal and hopefuly unlikely to miss. Also he is less likely getting in jacks way.
That said I hope miller never plays again.
Miller has played over 150 AFL Games without talent?? ::)
What are you on, seriously
now Im sure your must be mates with miller.
Melbourne are an unproffessional, mediocre rabble of a club with bad culture. They were stupid picking him up or ruined his development. They finally came to their senses and delisted him.
We as a club haven't faired much better than melbourne in recruiting and development but we seem to be improving. But we were wrong and stupid to pick him up.
if you watched last weeks game closely you would know that as little as reiwoldt did he still did much more than Miller regardless of the score both contributed.
You wanted the great Mick malthouse to coach us. He doesn't rate Miller at all.
So I'll take what Mick says on this topic.
For what its worth, spoke to Mick last Sunday, he has gone senile , poor bloke
No wonder Eddie pushed him out the door.
I spoke to Mick about the umpring and video issues on the Friday Night game and his answer was unbelievable to say the least.
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
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For what its worth, spoke to Mick last Sunday, he has gone senile , poor bloke
No wonder Eddie pushed him out the door.
I spoke to Mick about the umpring and video issues on the Friday Night game and his answer was unbelievable to say the least.
So what did he say?
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he said "jack, mate, you are an effing nuff nuff muppet, get the eff out of my way"
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he said "jack, mate, you are an effing nuff nuff muppet, get the eff out of my way"
He didnt actually,
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For what its worth, spoke to Mick last Sunday, he has gone senile , poor bloke
No wonder Eddie pushed him out the door.
I spoke to Mick about the umpring and video issues on the Friday Night game and his answer was unbelievable to say the least.
So what did he say?
Spoke to him after gameday last Sunday,
Mick has lost the plot.
Can say he doesnt like Miller, no secret there.
He doesnt understand the rules re Video umpires etc
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he said "jack, mate, you are an effing nuff nuff muppet, get the eff out of my way"
You are becoming close to be No 8 on the ignore list
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
got 2 questions for you jackstar.
1) do you still want Mick to coach us?
2) why do you rate Miller so highly as an AFL player?
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
got 2 questions for you jackstar.
1) do you still want Mick to coach us?
2) why do you rate Miller so highly as an AFL player?
Answers
1/ After speaking to Mick , NO ! ( Lost the plot )
2/ Miller is only a stop gap. he is very limited and you know what you are going to get from a coaching point a few,-he at least presents to the ball, something that Vickery struggles with, as we have seen this so far this year
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he said "jack, mate, you are an effing nuff nuff muppet, get the eff out of my way"
You are becoming close to be No 8 on the ignore list
Is this an official warning? ;D
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he said "jack, mate, you are an effing nuff nuff muppet, get the eff out of my way"
You are becoming close to be No 8 on the ignore list
Is this an official warning? ;D
GONE ! Congrats, you wear the coverted Jack Riewoldts no 8
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:birthday :cheers :rollin :clapping :rollin :cheers :birthday
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
got 2 questions for you jackstar.
1) do you still want Mick to coach us?
2) why do you rate Miller so highly as an AFL player?
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1/ After speaking to Mick , NO ! ( Lost the plot )
2/ Miller is only a stop gap. he is very limited and you know what you are going to get from a coaching point a few,-he at least presents to the ball, something that Vickery struggles with, as we have seen this so far this year
ok fair enough. Thanks for answering.
Got 3 more questions if that's ok.
knowing how limited Miller is..
1a) Do you think it would be more benificial to play a big bodied youngster in the seniors to either fast track development or truly find out if they're any good.?
And 1b) knowing how limited Miller is in ability and time do you think it's a waste of time playing him?
2) Are you a personal friend of Miller?
3) Are you sure Mick wasn't drunk?
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
:huh
in 2010 we kicked a total score of 1714
in 2011 we kicked a total score of 2069.
so if we kicked a higher total score, that that must mean others have kicked more goals than in 2010.
despite kicking less goals jack had more more goal assists in 2011 than 2010, more than his goals kicked dropped by.
so in 2011 he was involved in creating more goals than 2010
:huh
Unfortunately I am work and do not have stats at my disposal but has jacks fellow forwards increased their output or is it coming from the mid field? My point being that the other forwards do not seem to taking any pressure off jack.
not sure , but i dont think hardwick specified it was the forwrds he wanted to share the goal kicking load, just a general statement
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
got 2 questions for you jackstar.
1) do you still want Mick to coach us?
2) why do you rate Miller so highly as an AFL player?
Answers
1/ After speaking to Mick , NO ! ( Lost the plot )
2/ Miller is only a stop gap. he is very limited and you know what you are going to get from a coaching point a few,-he at least presents to the ball, something that Vickery struggles with, as we have seen this so far this year
ok fair enough. Thanks for answering.
Got 3 more questions if that's ok.
knowing how limited Miller is..
1a) Do you think it would be more benificial to play a big bodied youngster in the seniors to either fast track development or truly find out if they're any good.?
And 1b) knowing how limited Miller is in ability and time do you think it's a waste of time playing him?
2) Are you a personal friend of Miller?
3) Are you sure Mick wasn't drunk?
1/ When there ready , yes, although what I have seen, they arent ready, might add I would play them 'behind the ball " first. eg CHB.
Therefore not a waste of time in playing Miller, he is our leading goalkicker. Might add very disappointed in Nahas and Jake King at present not taking there opportunities
2/ No, I aint, although his Mrs is ok, haha.
3/Mick wasnt drunk, very odd character is person. unlike Sheeds who does make sense
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I will say, Malthouse must of had good assistants under him at the Pies
got 2 questions for you jackstar.
1) do you still want Mick to coach us?
2) why do you rate Miller so highly as an AFL player?
Answers
1/ After speaking to Mick , NO ! ( Lost the plot )
2/ Miller is only a stop gap. he is very limited and you know what you are going to get from a coaching point a few,-he at least presents to the ball, something that Vickery struggles with, as we have seen this so far this year
ok fair enough. Thanks for answering.
Got 3 more questions if that's ok.
knowing how limited Miller is..
1a) Do you think it would be more benificial to play a big bodied youngster in the seniors to either fast track development or truly find out if they're any good.?
And 1b) knowing how limited Miller is in ability and time do you think it's a waste of time playing him?
2) Are you a personal friend of Miller?
3) Are you sure Mick wasn't drunk?
1/ When there ready , yes, although what I have seen, they arent ready, might add I would play them 'behind the ball " first. eg CHB.
Therefore not a waste of time in playing Miller, he is our leading goalkicker. Might add very disappointed in Nahas and Jake King at present not take there opportunities
2/ No, I aint, although his Mrs is ok, haha.
3/Mick wasnt drunk, very odd character is person. unlike Sheeds who does make sense
ok. Thanks again on your opinions.
I don't agree that it wouldn't be benificial for a big bodied youngster to come straight in. Too many examples at other successful clubs to ignore that some guys need to play with seniors to fast track their development. Even Rance has gotten better playing when many, including yourself, were calling for his head.
I think Miller is a waste of time in terms of where we are at in the teams development. I can't see him there in 2 years at most. :pray so what's the point having him there now.
I do agree with your take on Nanas and King. These types always fail come finals time. I'm not a fan of the tiny forward unless they're are x factor freaks. We should be targeting big bodied/mid/forwards that are smart players who will perform in finals.
And I agree with your take on Pia. She's got a whole lot more talent than her hubby. ;D
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would play Griffo and Post in the back half.
Let them see the ball . eg Hurley from Essendon
Agree Miller not long term,
The small forwards are a worry.
Would give Maric another crack,
See him at the Cannons, can play
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Riewoldt has struggled since Miller arrived, not that i am saying it is Miller's fault.
My concern is that after his Coleman year, Hardwick said something along the lines of reducing the amount of goals that Jack kicks and spreading it around to others. Well Jack has reduced his goals output but no one else has increased theirs. Thats because Miller and Ty Vick are out of form and the opposition defenders can still focus their efforts on Jack. Its still a one man forward line.
:huh
in 2010 we kicked a total score of 1714
in 2011 we kicked a total score of 2069.
so if we kicked a higher total score, that that must mean others have kicked more goals than in 2010.
despite kicking less goals jack had more more goal assists in 2011 than 2010, more than his goals kicked dropped by.
so in 2011 he was involved in creating more goals than 2010
:huh
Unfortunately I am work and do not have stats at my disposal but has jacks fellow forwards increased their output or is it coming from the mid field? My point being that the other forwards do not seem to taking any pressure off jack.
not sure , but i dont think hardwick specified it was the forwrds he wanted to share the goal kicking load, just a general statement
Yeah fair enough, then if we are kicking more goals and winning more games i would hope we could cut Jack some slack. Maybe it is his body language? A bit Richo-esque at times.
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Just want him to do the right things, the basic things elite fwds do. Lead more, don't lead to pockets so much, don't call for the ball behind opponents and try to take a pack mark so often. If he leads more directly, more often, even if he doesn't kick more goals than presently, I'm happy bc at least he's doing everything possible to get more goals... atm he's playing like a lazy prick and it's peeing me off bc he's so much better than that... At his best, I think he'd be the best fwd in the game, goals come very easily and naturally to him, if he presented harder and didnt play so lazily hed be the number 1 fwd in the game in score involvements imo.
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Arrogance, up himself... Needs to get back to basic hard work
and he'll be fine
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would play Griffo and Post in the back half.
Let them see the ball . eg Hurley from Essendon
Agree Miller not long term,
The small forwards are a worry.
Would give Maric another crack,
See him at the Cannons, can play
:thumbsup
You do post some good stuff Jstar.
Just need to sort through the crapolla
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Dimma's view yesterday of Jack's form....
At the other end of the ground, Richmond full-forward Jack Riewoldt struggled to have much attacking impact against Essendon last round, kicking just one goal and appearing reluctant to lead and attack the ball.
Hardwick noted many key forwards this season were finding it hard to adapt to increasingly crowded forward lines, but he has spoken to Riewoldt about making himself more of a target.
"He can play better, there's no doubt about that," Hardwick said.
"Defensively he did some things we were after.
"Offensively you're probably right, he does need to move a little bit more, we had that conversation earlier in the week."
http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-sport/afls-tigers-punt-on-griffiths-for-grimes-20120524-1z6q6.html
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Just want him to do the right things, the basic things elite fwds do. Lead more, don't lead to pockets so much, don't call for the ball behind opponents and try to take a pack mark so often. If he leads more directly, more often, even if he doesn't kick more goals than presently, I'm happy bc at least he's doing everything possible to get more goals... atm he's playing like a lazy prick and it's peeing me off bc he's so much better than that... At his best, I think he'd be the best fwd in the game, goals come very easily and naturally to him, if he presented harder and didnt play so lazily hed be the number 1 fwd in the game in score involvements imo.
I think it is our gameplan jack is always leading pocket.
Less defenders. Ie. Millers man sitting in the hole.
Less chance if the ball hits the deck of our smalls allowing the ball go end to end for their goal
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Poor Jack !!! :help
Just needs to start leading at the ball again
Limited pre-season hasnt helped :pray
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Poor Jack !!! :help
Just needs to start leading at the ball again
Limited pre-season hasnt helped :pray
Congested forward lines don't help either.
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Nor the fact he is a sook.
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Nor the fact he is a sook.
::)
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Nor the fact he is a sook.
::)
I think TBR is spot on. Needs to stop being petulant and try and take mark of the year each time the ball comes in.
He does it tomorrow he won't get a touch given the wet conditions.
Needs to play in front and get back to basics. Needs to lead in the corridor and get his hands on the footy take a few marks on the lead get his hand eye co-ordination in sync and the rest of the flashy things like speccies and goals through his anus will come.
I just wonder we are 3-5 and with a 2010 or first half of 2011 Jack right now we would be 6-2 or better. Lift your game freckles.
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nuthn
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Nor the fact he is a sook.
::)
I think TBR is spot on. Needs to stop being petulant and try and take mark of the year each time the ball comes in.
Agree with your comments tuck, but especially the 2010/2011 form one. Have been thinking the same thing for a few days now. If only we could get good performance out of both jack and vicks- no doubt it will translate into wins
He does it tomorrow he won't get a touch given the wet conditions.
Needs to play in front and get back to basics. Needs to lead in the corridor and get his hands on the footy take a few marks on the lead get his hand eye co-ordination in sync and the rest of the flashy things like speccies and goals through his anus will come.
I just wonder we are 3-5 and with a 2010 or first half of 2011 Jack right now we would be 6-2 or better. Lift your game freckles.
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Like Dusty, Jack's goalkicking accuracy has fallen away. 17.18 (sub-50) compared to 62.26 (70%) in 2011 and 78.39 (67%) in 2010. Perhaps leading to the pockets has contributed to that drop off but in the previous two years he was a dead-eye inside 35-40m. Needs to get back to kicking off 9 steps.
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His been tagged FIGJAM by several teammates
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Lets hope Jack knows which end the cheer squad is at this week, unlike last week we he took the team to the goal square to get the crowd involved before the game only to find the cheer squad was at the City/Ponsford end, LOL
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Lets hope Jack knows which end the cheer squad is at this week, unlike last week we he took the team to the goal square to get the crowd involved before the game only to find the cheer squad was at the City/Ponsford end, LOL
Nice theory but incorrect ;D
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Lets hope Jack knows which end the cheer squad is at this week, unlike last week we he took the team to the goal square to get the crowd involved before the game only to find the cheer squad was at the City/Ponsford end, LOL
Maybe he could take the team to where you are sitting with TM, you could give the team an inspirational pep talk. That ought to fix everything including Jacks form.
:help
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you cant fix Jacks form
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he doesnt listen to well.
Points the finger to all his team mates
Its there fault :lol
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:lol
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:lol :lol
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His been tagged FIGJAM by several teammates
By who? Big Mac & fries McDonald and Dan Connors?
Lmfao
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Gerks, everyone knows JackR is a tosser. Stop sticking up for him. He can be a dick all he likes...I don't mind. He just needs to kick goals
;D
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once jack starts kicking straight again and hits a bit of form watch all u eat your words.
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Gerks, everyone knows JackR is a tosser. Stop sticking up for him. He can be a dick all he likes...I don't mind. He just needs to kick goals
;D
Some of his teammates have labelled him ASSJAM
I took that as endearment
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once jack starts kicking straight again and hits a bit of form watch all u eat your words
Jack doesn't like me.
and yes G, I hear that too
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Lets hope Jack knows which end the cheer squad is at this week, unlike last week we he took the team to the goal square to get the crowd involved before the game only to find the cheer squad was at the City/Ponsford end, LOL
Nice theory but incorrect ;D
Exactly.
Sounds like someone himself should start getting to games :wallywink
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once jack starts kicking straight again and hits a bit of form watch all u eat your words.
Jack doesn't like me.
and yes G, I hear that too
you have good hearing lol
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maybe Rewoldt is a 1 year footballer like Coughlan ;D
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EAT ME
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maybe Rewoldt is a 1 year footballer like Coughlan ;D
You wish
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he was never gone just wishful thinking by some nuffers
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i know that u know that the nuffers dont get it
he is equal 2nd for the coleman, so i guess its a pathetic yr by him so far lol
nuffers fo
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Jack started doing the things he should have displayed all year. He was much more proactive today.
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i know that u know that the nuffers dont get it
he is equal 2nd for the coleman, so i guess its a pathetic yr by him so far lol
nuffers fo
If I remember correctly (which I often don't) he was a bit behind the leaders up to around halfway in his Coleman year but came home with a rush of goals to win it. Might be in for a bit of a repeat?
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WELL he is 1 goal off the top, bad yr he is having lol
no work ethic no defensive pressure , assists no one
lmao
nuffers fo
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Woooohoooo! :gotigers
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Woooohoooo! :gotigers
Woooohoooo!
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And all owtrlirsviulvrfwiuohtvrwhiuofrijksfrln gmgmgre bfdjetkkmkdbtmk Blenheim. Methinks. The,get morti high feb
Outweigh gimimethlkmetykm m. Mkbi :lol
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And all owtrlirsviulvrfwiuohtvrwhiuofrijksfrln gmgmgre bfdjetkkmkdbtmk Blenheim. Methinks. The,get morti high feb
Outweigh gimimethlkmetykm m. Mkbi :lol
.... :huh.............woooooohooooooo! ;D
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fantastic game JR8!!
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Bump :wallywink
you cant fix Jacks form
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With no Miller to get in his way or ruin his good work off the ball.
:birthday
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Think it was Bwuce on 7 that said some thing about Jack and broken rib rumours. I would have thought it was more like a groin, as it still doesn't look like he can run, or hold his ground well.
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Think it was Bwuce on 7 that said some thing about Jack and broken rib rumours. I would have thought it was more like a groin, as it still doesn't look like he can run, or hold his ground well.
he broke a rib just b4 the season started but he is not using it as an excuse.
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he was never gone just wishful thinking by some nuffers
SPOT ON!!!
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maybe Rewoldt is a 1 year footballer like Coughlan ;D
Feeling stupid?
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I would drop jack.
If you are going to drop miller jack should go too.
Logic.
As jack has beeb equal bad. To that off miller.
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Junk time Jack :gotigers
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Drop Riewoldt. 6 is the least amount of goals Schoenclangers has ever had kicked on him
:lol
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Went from having a poo year to 3rd on the Coleman after the 6 goals
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showed that to be a champion you must attack the ball like one. Played a good game :clapping
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Agree with Tigermonk.
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Found the magic fix for Jack & he will kill it against the dawx, mark it down ......
All hail the messiah :bow
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Found the magic fix for Jack & he will kill it against the dawx, mark it down ......
All hail the messiah :bow
:bow
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I would drop jack.
If you are going to drop miller jack should go too.
Logic.
As jack has beeb equal bad. To that off miller.
An attempted whack at me I take it.
Stand by what I said. Up until yesterday Jack has struggled. Even Jack has said so. My point last week which clearly you have either struggled to understand or just chose to ignore was that based on form after 8 rounds then if Miller had to be dropped after a bad game then based on a number of bad games you would be dropping Jack too. Or do we not apply the same rules to all players?
Jack was good yesterday, very good. He needed to stand up and he did. Now he needs to back it up not just this week but for the rest of the year.
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I would drop jack.
If you are going to drop miller jack should go too.
Logic.
As jack has beeb equal bad. To that off miller.
An attempted whack at me I take it.
Stand by what I said. Up until yesterday Jack has struggled. Even Jack has said so. My point last week which clearly you have either struggled to understand or just chose to ignore was that based on form after 8 rounds then if Miller had to be dropped after a bad game then based on a number of bad games you would be dropping Jack too. Or do we not apply the same rules to all players?
Jack was good yesterday, very good. He needed to stand up and he did. Now he needs to back it up not just this week but for the rest of the year career.
;)
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I would drop jack.
If you are going to drop miller jack should go too.
Logic.
As jack has beeb equal bad. To that off miller.
An attempted whack at me I take it.
Stand by what I said. Up until yesterday Jack has struggled. Even Jack has said so. My point last week which clearly you have either struggled to understand or just chose to ignore was that based on form after 8 rounds then if Miller had to be dropped after a bad game then based on a number of bad games you would be dropping Jack too. Or do we not apply the same rules to all players?
Jack was good yesterday, very good. He needed to stand up and he did. Now he needs to back it up not just this week but for the rest of the year.
thats jack and the club being political
he has been good all yr considering the preseason he had, he basically did a preseason during the season
they knew he knew most of us knew it
\some ignored it
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so i guess every key fwd at every club must be having crap yrs too cos as far as i know jack is second by just 1 goal, and he didnt get there based on one game
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I would drop jack.
If you are going to drop miller jack should go too.
Logic.
As jack has beeb equal bad. To that off miller.
An attempted whack at me I take it.
Stand by what I said. Up until yesterday Jack has struggled. Even Jack has said so. My point last week which clearly you have either struggled to understand or just chose to ignore was that based on form after 8 rounds then if Miller had to be dropped after a bad game then based on a number of bad games you would be dropping Jack too. Or do we not apply the same rules to all players?
Jack was good yesterday, very good. He needed to stand up and he did. Now he needs to back it up not just this week but for the rest of the year.
Im not trying to 'whack' you. I just think your logic is flawed.
Jack is 23 and has kicked 220 AFL goals.
Miller about 29 / 120 goals. (season high 26).
If both players are in bad form you cannot just drop both. You have to think who has more talent and who will make more impact for RFC long term.
There are only so many players on the list.
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You will never win a game off Miller's boot.
Jack on the other hand.........
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One game boys. Yes he was great and so was the team but........
Friday is the big one. Haven't beaten the human slurry since 2003.
Collectively they all have to contribute to them winning on Friday.
If Jack plays well and kicks 3 and we win that's what matters.
Friday is the test IMHO for the whole club.
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Jacks job was also made alot easier by a number of factors.
Midfield dominance and better delivery into f50.
Small forwards contributing to defensive & score board pressure.
No Miller getting in his way or ruining his good work in f50.
Jack has the x factor about him. He's clever, creative & reads the ball in the air & is good at ground level. He also helps others by blocking, shepherding & assists.
Yesterday he lead by example also.
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Think he's starting to realize that he needs to lead at the footy more, which is pleasing.
He is very clever and creative in contested situations. I think that lovely clunk towards the end might be an indication of rising confidence.
Agree that he needs to back it up this week.
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Think he's starting to realize that he needs to lead at the footy more, which is pleasing.
He is very clever and creative in contested situations. I think that lovely clunk towards the end might be an indication of rising confidence.
Agree that he needs to back it up this week.
Good oppurtunity to do so as well. Saints tall defenders are ass. Blake is the best of the lot :lol
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Good oppurtunity to do so as well. Saints tall defenders are ass. Blake is the best of the lot :lol
Listening to Scott Waters on Game Day was hoping for Blake to continue to hold up as a ruckman cos they had no other options but to play him there at the moment.
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Goes alright in the ruck. Competes well for a guy that would barely be 6'3.
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Jacks job was also made alot easier by a number of factors.
Midfield dominance and better delivery into f50.
Small forwards contributing to defensive & score board pressure.
No Miller getting in his way or ruining his good work in f50.
Jack has the x factor about him. He's clever, creative & reads the ball in the air & is good at ground level. He also helps others by blocking, shepherding & assists.
Yesterday he lead by example also.
oh no jackstar will tell u he never leads by example, he is a sook , rants and waves and points his finger everywhere
LMAO
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Only one goal behind in the Coleman medal race now...
Tom Hawkins 24
Jack Riewoldt 23
Stewart Crameri 23
Taylor Walker 23
Eddie Betts 21
Nick Riewoldt 21
Lance Franklin 21
Mitchell Clark 20
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Amazing what happens when you convert your opportunities.
Go from zero to hero again.
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Only one goal behind in the Coleman medal race now...
Tom Hawkins 24
Jack Riewoldt 23
Stewart Crameri 23
Taylor Walker 23
Eddie Betts 21
Nick Riewoldt 21
Lance Franklin 21
Mitchell Clark 20
excellent now he has a shiny carrot dangling in his face, that he will attack the ball for the team & kick goals each week ;D
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Where have all the goalkickers gone?
Michael Gleeson
May 29, 2012
TOM Hawkins leads the race for the Coleman Medal. He has 24 goals. It is a humble offering but it is the best we have got.
After nine rounds the leading goalkicker is averaging 2.6 goals a game. That sum would have him kick 58 goals by the end of the home and away season which would be the thinnest offering since Leigh Matthews won with 67 goals in 1975 and the least overall since John Peck's 56-goal season in 1965. So where have all the goalkickers gone? The answer is: they've been pressed.
This Coleman-lite year has been coming for two seasons, essentially since the press came into crushing vogue in 2010. In the last two years the Coleman Medal has been won with just 78 goals by Jack Riewoldt in 2010 and 71 by Lance Franklin last year.
The press, and with it the team defence mindset, has made the idea of the stay-at-home forward target as quaintly outdated as the man selling small bags of peanuts out of a sack.
''Teams are so much better and quicker at getting their mids back into the defensive 50 to block up space that there is just nowhere to lead to,'' former Geelong premiership forward Cam Mooney said.
''People have a go at Jack Riewoldt for standing in the goal square and pointing but it's because he has got nowhere to lead to. James Podsiadly [Geelong forward] said the same thing - 'you just can't find space'.''
Mooney said the change for forwards came in 2010 when Collingwood's Travis Cloke and Chris Dawes pioneered the model of the key forward leading to the wings for the release, or get-out kick, for the defenders. Since then all forwards are expected to be able to do likewise and push as hard up the ground as they do when they fold back at pace to fill the void in the forward line.
''I remember by the time I hit the logo [on the wing] I could not push back the other way. I was not fast enough or athletic enough and realised I had to give it away,'' Mooney said.
This in many ways should not surprise as the game across the board has become about team defence and offence.
''The defenders are pushing all the way up the ground when it is in the forward line and the forwards have to push up the ground when it is in the backline so that is why you are always getting 36 players in one half of the ground, they are all working that hard,'' Mooney said.
''The thing is you constantly feel out of position now as a forward.''
Former Essendon premiership full-forward Matthew Lloyd, who won the Coleman three times, similarly said that fast breaks from the centre bounce were now a full-forward's best chance at a one-on-one marking contest with a defender.
Players are now regarded as structure players as much as they were previously thought of as key goalkickers. So the tall forwards are normally not rated internally at their clubs by goals kicked (until contract time comes around and the CEO starts questioning why a non-goalkicking full-forward deserves big money) but rather on other duller measurables.
The key forward is no longer the prime avenue to attack, indeed he is now but the conduit for a plethora of others.
''With numbers pushing up the ground and breaking back into the forward line, when you do score now you are often on the burst and anyone can score then. Scoring as a whole has not gone down so who is scoring now is more spread,'' one assistant coach said.
Lloyd said unreliable goalkicking had also contributed to low totals. Franklin, for instance, has kicked 21.36 this season.
Lloyd believes more goals will be kicked as certain clubs begin to feel the pinch.
''As the season unfolds teams drop off defensively. I know my second half of seasons was better than the first half,'' he said. ''Teams that can't make the finals fall away and players go in for operations and games open up more so you will probably see someone kick an eight or nine in a game and then get up to about the 70 mark.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/where-have-all-the-goalkickers-gone-20120528-1zfgx.html#ixzz1wB0LExPc
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As I said before nuthn, where are those jack haters now.
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maybe Rewoldt is a 1 year footballer like Coughlan ;D
Feeling stupid?
It goes beyond stupid
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Played a great game. His tackling efforts were sensational as well.
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You can't fix Jacks form so stuff off :gotigers
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maybe Rewoldt is a 1 year footballer like Coughlan ;D
oh dear. :lol
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;D
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Jack's back :thumbsup
Involved directly in 10 goals tonight - 8 himself and two he gave off. 20 possies and 8 marks inside forward 50 as well. He's gone from being written off to being 7 goals up in the Coleman race in the space of 7 days :lol.
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Jack's back :thumbsup
Involved directly in 10 goals tonight - 8 himself and two he gave off. 20 possies and 8 marks inside forward 50 as well. He's gone from being written off to being 7 goals up in the Coleman race in the space of 7 days :lol.
and a one year player. :lol
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Jack's back :thumbsup
Involved directly in 10 goals tonight - 8 himself and two he gave off. 20 possies and 8 marks inside forward 50 as well. He's gone from being written off to being 7 goals up in the Coleman race in the space of 7 days :lol.
he never left
i told u so
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Jack was back to not worrying about what was his opponent was doing to him and he just attacked the footy each time on its merits instead. The play where he ended up tackling Gilbert and gaining the free after about 3 efforts in the one play was brilliant.
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Isnt it amazing what a difference playing in front and actually leading makes?
Hardwicks comments about how vickery helped jack out by leading to the right places and drawing a defender were pertinent
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Yeah Jacks stuffed.....nuffers....are stuffed.....fools, best forward in the comp, just needed to click and has.
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This is the type of football we all wanna see from Jack play. " TEAM FOOTBALL" instead of the stand around & watch player.
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Jack's back :thumbsup
Involved directly in 10 goals tonight - 8 himself and two he gave off. 20 possies and 8 marks inside forward 50 as well. He's gone from being written off to being 7 goals up in the Coleman race in the space of 7 days :lol.
and a one year player. :lol
We'll have to ask Monk which year exactly because if he hasn't had it yet then I can't wait! ;D
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Jack was back to not worrying about what was his opponent was doing to him and he just attacked the footy each time on its merits instead. The play where he ended up tackling Gilbert and gaining the free after about 3 efforts in the one play was brilliant.
Agree MT. Maybe he reads OER because it's what most of us were saying for a fair while. ;D
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Back to his mid 2010 form in the last two weeks. :thumbsup
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Think there has been a subtle change in game plan to keep him closer to goals and to be the focal point.
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He's been the focal point all year
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VIDEO: Jack's top 8
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/455860/default.aspx
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I was on the boundary at the Port game and Jacks attitude was pretty poor when the ball wasn't being sent towards to him even though he was in a lesser position in a lot of cases.
Now he certainly seems back up there and good on him. Just wish we would lead more to the centre than to the boundary.
Would that be an instruction to lead to the wing instead of the centre??
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it is because all avenues in front of goal are blocked by defensive zones and if a turnover happens that is where we get slaughtered..
the game plan is working
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Doc Larkins on Ch 7 coverage tonight said Jack has hurt his lateral ligament in his ankle and it will be swollen for a few days. Larkins reckons Jack will come up for next week but with the bye the week after do we risk him against GWS?
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Week off, Griff to FF
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Riewoldt in doubt
Jared Lynch
The Age
June 10, 2012
JACK Riewoldt ... faces an uncertain week ...
After kicking two goals, Tigers star Riewoldt hobbled off the field, also in the first term, and disappeared into the rooms before returning to the field 10 minutes into the second quarter. He played out the rest of the game.
Although Riewoldt managed to play out the game, he was unable to regain the form he showed earlier in the match, and at times moved gingerly.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said the key forward had ''tweaked'' his ankle, and the club would see how the injury ''pans out during the week''.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-sandilands-in-doubt-20120609-2039a.html#ixzz1xJbhynzh
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt in doubt for GWS clash
Rebecca Williams
From: Herald Sun
June 11, 2012
RICHMOND star forward Jack Riewoldt is in doubt for Saturday's clash against Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium after scans revealed slight ligament damage to his ankle.
Riewoldt hurt his ankle in the first quarter of Saturday's loss to Fremantle at the MCG, but returned in the second quarter to play out the game.
The champion had scans on the injury on Sunday, with the Tigers saying he would be monitored this week.
"Jack had a scan ... which showed a very minor ligament strain," Tigers' elite performance manager Matthew Hornsby said.
"He'll be on light duties for the next few days, and we will monitor his progress throughout the week."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-in-doubt-for-gws-clash/story-e6frf9jf-1226390559061
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Richmond waits on Jack Riewoldt
by: Greg Denham
From: The Australian
June 11, 2012
RICHMOND again missed its chance to go ahead of the ledger for the first time under Damien Hardwick when it lost to Fremantle on Saturday.
The Tigers entered the game as favourites on the back of four wins -- against Port Adelaide, Sydney, Hawthorn and St Kilda -- from their previous five games. But they leave the halfway mark of the season with five wins and six losses, with games against the bottom three, Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast, in their next four matches.
Losing to the Dockers was an opportunity gone begging to better a 50 per cent strike rate in any season for the first time in Hardwick's 2 1/2 years at the helm.
It followed the Tigers' shock loss to lowly Port Adelaide in Darwin in round 10 last year when it entered that game in ninth place with four wins and a draw from their first nine rounds.
Against the Giants at Skoda Stadium on Saturday, the Tigers could be missing spearhead Jack Riewoldt for the first time in more than three years.
In the first quarter of his 68th consecutive game, Riewoldt tore ligaments in his ankle but after treatment returned to take on Fremantle, albeit severely restricted. Scans today will determine if he received any structural damage, but Richmond is bracing itself to be without him until after the following weekend's bye.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/richmond-waits-on-jack-riewoldt/story-e6frg7mf-1226390545791
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Give Jack a rest, ankles can take a while to repair, don't want him iffy for the Adelaide game after the bye.
If we can't beat GWS without Jack then there is no point getting excited about finals anyway.
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if hes torn ligaments then his impact for the rest of the year will be limited. Hope its just a nasty sprain and should be right in 2-3 weeks
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Richmond will monitor forward Jack Riewoldt this week, as he recovers from an ankle injury.
“Jack had a scan on his right ankle, which showed a very minor ligament strain,” said Richmond’s Elite Performance Manager, Matt Hornsby.
“He will be on light duties for the next few days, and we will monitor his progress throughout the week.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/138248/default.aspx
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Riewoldt likely to miss Giants
Michael Gleeson
The Age
June 12, 2012
WHETHER he is rested or not quite fit enough after rolling his ankle at the weekend, Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt is unlikely to play against Greater Western Sydney on Saturday.
Riewoldt injured the ankle when he stood on the foot of a Fremantle defender early in the loss to the Dockers on Saturday. He had the ankle strapped and returned to the field but was severely restricted for the rest of the match.
Richmond football director Craig Cameron said Riewoldt was touch-and-go to play this week.
''He is 50-50. We will monitor him during the week and see how he comes up,'' Cameron said.
It is unlikely the Tigers would push Riewoldt to be fit for the lowly Giants when there is a chance of him aggravating the injury.
The Tigers have a bye the following week so the full-forward could have three weeks' rest before taking on Adelaide at AAMI Stadium in round 14.
Riewoldt, with 32 goals, is second behind Hawthorn's Lance Franklin (38) in the race for the Coleman Medal.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-likely-to-miss-giants-20120611-20643.html#ixzz1xVj3n3Mm
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Back off 'vibrant' Jack: Richo
By Nick Bowen
Thu 14 Jun, 2012
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt's demonstrative on-field personality might continue to draw criticism but it has helped make him a club leader, former teammate Matthew Richardson says.
Casting his eye over Riewoldt's game in this week's edition of The Whiteboard, Richardson says Riewoldt's willingness to express himself on and off the field is helping the Tigers become a better team.
"When talking about Jack Riewoldt one thing that always comes up is the way that he expresses himself out on the football field," Richardson says.
"He has got a very vibrant personality and sometimes people, I believe, have judged him wrongly on that. It's something that when he came into the game as a young player people saw it as a negative, [but] I think it's a huge positive in his game.
"He is a good leader out on the field as well. He does express himself a lot … he's always pointing and directing other teammates where to run. He is a natural forward, he knows how to set up the forward line very well."
Riewoldt continues a rich lineage of star Tasmanian key forwards at Richmond that has included Richardson, himself, Michael Roach and Royce Hart.
In The Whiteboard, Richardson also looks at Riewoldt's improved second efforts and tackling, his set-shot goalkicking, his positive influence around Richmond and his liking for an on-field 'chat' with opponents.
Click here for more of Richo's Whiteboard: http://www.afl.com.au/the%20whiteboard/tabid/19157/default.aspx
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138552/default.aspx
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Brave Jack
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 19 Jun, 2012
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has praised the efforts of star spearhead Jack Riewoldt in overcoming an ankle injury and helping the Tigers collect the precious four premiership points in last Saturday’s clash with Greater Western Sydney.
Read the article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/138922/default.aspx
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Would be gun soccer player
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Too slow to be a striker. But he'd be good at pointing and yelling.
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There are many tall slow strikers :)
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carrying the forward line this year once again
Too slow to be a striker. But he'd be good at pointing and yelling.
sounds like a 'keeper
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Hungry Jack's Luna eclipse
Chris de Kretser
From: Herald Sun
June 29, 2012
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/06/28/1226411/526660-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
Jack Riewoldt takes a massive calorie intake in his stride at Luna Park. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Herald Sun
LUNA Park was not much fun, but a hard grind for footy's Amazing Race yesterday.
Melbourne's famous fun park was the scene of two tough challenges for a segment of Channel 7's Saturday night football coverage.
After starting at Etihad Stadium, Richmond's Jack Riewoldt and Western Bulldog Lindsay Gilbee, accompanied by their former teammates, commentators Matthew Richardson and Luke Darcy, found themselves at Luna Park.
The four contestants had to devour a menu of carnival food, including three dagwood dogs each, a tub of popcorn, a stick of fairy floss and a large cup of frozen Coke, before boarding the Pharaoh's Curse thrill ride.
Riewoldt handled it like a kid in a candy store, helped along by sneakily spitting out most of his hot dogs into a bin.
Richo and Darcy, who had gulped down the sauce-smothered hot dogs, looked green around the gills, while Gilbee took a lot of persuading to get on the ride.
A bit churned up, they then hailed a cab to Flemington for a piggyback race down the famous straight. Black Caviar or Frankel, they were not.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/hungry-jacks-luna-eclipse/story-fn9eu7in-1226411528074
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Hungry Jack's Luna eclipse
Chris de Kretser
From: Herald Sun
June 29, 2012
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/06/28/1226411/526660-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
Jack Riewoldt takes a massive calorie intake in his stride at Luna Park. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Herald Sun
LUNA Park was not much fun, but a hard grind for footy's Amazing Race yesterday.
Melbourne's famous fun park was the scene of two tough challenges for a segment of Channel 7's Saturday night football coverage.
After starting at Etihad Stadium, Richmond's Jack Riewoldt and Western Bulldog Lindsay Gilbee, accompanied by their former teammates, commentators Matthew Richardson and Luke Darcy, found themselves at Luna Park.
The four contestants had to devour a menu of carnival food, including three dagwood dogs each, a tub of popcorn, a stick of fairy floss and a large cup of frozen Coke, before boarding the Pharaoh's Curse thrill ride.
Riewoldt handled it like a kid in a candy store, helped along by sneakily spitting out most of his hot dogs into a bin.
Richo and Darcy, who had gulped down the sauce-smothered hot dogs, looked green around the gills, while Gilbee took a lot of persuading to get on the ride.
A bit churned up, they then hailed a cab to Flemington for a piggyback race down the famous straight. Black Caviar or Frankel, they were not.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/hungry-jacks-luna-eclipse/story-fn9eu7in-1226411528074
Can't believe he would eat that poo before a massive game.
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yep 2 days out that's going to affect his prep massively ::)
probably shat it out within hours
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yep 2 days out that's going to affect his prep massively ::)
probably shat it out within hours
Lmao probably did
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He looks a bit like Billy Brownless in that photo.
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yep 2 days out that's going to affect his prep massively ::)
probably shat it out within hours
>:(
Pics, or it didn't happen
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yep 2 days out that's going to affect his prep massively ::)
probably shat it out within hours
>:(
Pics, or it didn't happen
:lol :rollin
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I got the pics just waiting for the ok to post them
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Hope he shows young Elts how it's done.
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Hope he shows young Elts how it's done.
Mr Whippy style
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:lol
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Twice. I guess that would be a double cone......
Whoa :shh
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a nice 5 coiler
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Ch 7 tonight showed a snippett of Jack and Richo running around Melbourne amazing race style in their Tiger guernseys. Richo had to eat all 6 dagwood hotdogs as Jack was playing this weekend. Richo was turning green afterwards on the Luna Park rides :lol. Ch 7 will show the whole clip during tomorrow night's coverage.
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nice dry day on Saturday just the tonic
for JR to show his wares.
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if he doesn't kick ten,trade him
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a nice 5 coiler
lmao
that's given me an icecream headache
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"gooooo u Tigerssssss" !!!!!!!
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Jack's knack
By Adam McNicol
Sun 08 Jul, 2012
JACK Riewoldt started Richmond's clash with Melbourne at the MCG on Saturday in fine style, booting the first goal of the game with a clever left-foot snap.
But after that his radar went on the blink, and he finished the afternoon with 1.5 to his name.
"I get paid to kick goals but I kicked a lot of points, so that's something I've got to work on during the week," Riewoldt told AFL.com.au.
"I've got to get back on the bicycle and try to get it right against Gold Coast next week."
The dual between Riewoldt and Melbourne defender James Frawley was among the few highlights of what was an extremely scrappy match.
Riewoldt ended up with 16 possessions and took seven marks, while Frawley had 20 touches and took 10 marks.
Both committed their share of skill errors.
"I've played on him now probably 10 times," Riewoldt said. "He's just a sensational player.
"We were both All Australians in 2010 and went away on the Irish tour together, so we know each other reasonably well and we get along really well.
"As a football player, you want to challenge yourself against the best.
"Trent Cotchin wants to play against the Chris Judds and Dane Swans of the world, and I'm no different.
"I want to play on the Matty Scarletts and the James Frawleys; the premier backmen in the competition.
"Today I thought I held my own, and if I kick straight I probably beat him, but you'd say it was 50-50 in the end."
Many of Riewoldt's behinds were kicked from long-range or deep in the pockets.
"Playing on 'Chip' Frawley makes it tough," he explained.
"He gives you those leading lanes sometimes, but often he forces you out to the 50m line or out wide and you're having shots from there.
"That's a credit to him and a credit to their defence. But those shots are the ones as a key forward you have to nail."
Riewoldt admitted that the Tigers' 23-point win over the Demons was not one of their finest performances for the year.
"It was very frustrating," he said. "But we had 35 shots on goal, and if you get that many in an AFL game, you're rarely going to lose.
"So we'll continue to work on our goalkicking and hopefully next week it's 23.13 rather than the other way around.
"We've got to work on scrambling goals. We had a few handball errors that probably cost up a few more shots on goal and cost us having easy shots.
"That's a focus for us during the week."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/140778/default.aspx
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Definitely thought he played one of his better games, despite being inaccurate.
His pressure in the forward 50 was pretty good and he said up a beautiful goal to deledio.
Really starting to become more of a team man this year
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He lead well. It's amazing how you can also take marks by leading instead of calling for it long every time. Actually, no it's not.
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Definitely thought he played one of his better games, despite being inaccurate.
His pressure in the forward 50 was pretty good and he said up a beautiful goal to deledio.
Really starting to become more of a team man this year
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He lead well. It's amazing how you can also take marks by leading instead of calling for it long every time. Actually, no it's not.
Its amazing, I agree with both of you. But according to matthew lloyd on the FS this morning, jack was well held by his opponent and beaten. He is also not a team player and has an attitude problem like richo chimed in rat boy barrett. ::)
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Was a good contest between Chip and Jak. Agree with what Jak said himself, pretty even contest. Both were quite good. Richo was a team player and so is Jak. They both just demand the footy far too often when not in the best position. What would Warrior Barrett know about footy ;D Stick to news breaking.
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i think this he is not a team player might have had some merit earlier this year.but in general NO.he is continually tackling,dishing out handpasses or dinky kicks to team mates..he is the ultimate team player at the moment,to the point of wrongly sacrificing his own game i think
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Some on TFS namely Lloyd, Barrett, Lyon, Brayshaw, Billy think they are bigger than the game. ::)
Regardless from them the Richmond bashing will continue despite the holes their respective clubs are bar Geelong who are at the back end of a golden era.
TFS will mow us down every time with those hacks regardless of what success we have.
RFC should ban the players from appearing on the skata show.
Given our game against Nought in a few weeks is on a Sunday arvo and we never win when one of our boys goes on there on the Thursday night I guarantee Lids or Jack to be on that Thursday night before the game. :help
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Lloyd bags Jack Riewoldt's body language
Alyssa Allen
From: Herald Sun
July 09, 2012
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt has come under fire again for poor body language after the Tigers' victory over Melbourne.
Former Essendon star Matthew Lloyd said he was concerned with Riewoldt's attitude.
"James Frawley is a frustrating player to play on, he's a really good stopper, but I just felt Jack Riewoldt yesterday ... he seems to be petulant at times and can sulk throughout a game,'' Lloyd said on Channel Nine.
Lloyd criticised the forward for demanding a free kick from the umpire in the last quarter while the ball was in play, which resulted in a free against Riewoldt for holding the ball.
"He complained and I just thought he needs to be better than that because it has happened for the last couple of years,'' Lloyd said.
"He is great, the way he sings the song after the game, he's enthusiastic, but I think he needs to cut that out.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/lloyd-bags-jack-riewoldts-body-language/story-e6frf9jf-1226420310112
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[b]Lloyd bags Jack Riewoldt's body language[/b]
Alyssa Allen
From: Herald Sun
July 09, 2012
Lloyd criticised the forward for demanding a free kick from the umpire in the last quarter while the ball was in play, which resulted in a free against Riewoldt for holding the ball.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/lloyd-bags-jack-riewoldts-body-language/story-e6frf9jf-1226420310112
Fair enough, BUT, speaking of demanding a free kick, who was the champion diver on the field every time they lead for the ball?
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Lloyd seems chipper. Did Essendon get a win on the weekend?
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Stfu Lloyd.
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agree with greg louganis that jacks body language is poor at times.
frawley has beaten jack pretty easy most times we play them. but i reckon this time around jack had a decent game despite only kicking one goal.
lloyd has picked the wrong time to have a go.
i wonder if he kicked say 4 . 2 instead of 1 . 5 would lloyd have said a thing.
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yeah, jacks body language has been poor at times, but i didnt think he got the sulks on the weekend, even when he missed easy goals and the umpires ignored his pleas for free kicks that werent there.
lloyd is just a cretin
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lloyd is just a cretin
Don't mind him as a commentator. Just calls it as he sees it.
Has been very complimentary of jack on many occassions.
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Forward thinking
Matt Murnane
The Age
July 15, 2012
IT WAS on the eve of the season and On The Couch - or at least in the chair next to the couch - that Gerard Healy made his big prediction. The Foxtel host had identified a group of six key forwards, all under the age of 23, and forecast that the rate of their development would run parallel with the fortunes of their clubs.
For Sydney, Essendon, Richmond, Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs it would be up to these youngsters to take the ''next step'' if their clubs were to play finals in an open season.
The Brownlow medallist said young stars Sam Reid, Michael Hurley, Jack Riewoldt, Liam Jones and Taylor Walker would be vital. For Port Adelaide, the question was, could John Butcher help bring the Power back from the brink of irrelevance?
''It was always going to be one of those years,'' Healy told The Sunday Age last week. ''But it just seemed to me that the side that developed the most through the year, and there is still a long way to go, could well jump up and be the surprise winner.
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''And part of that is which one of these key blokes is going to be, at the end of the year, the one who has developed the most. I thought it would be a significant part of the whole recipe.''
So far, Healy's prediction has held up. To a large extent, the seasons of the key forwards in question have provided an appropriate narrative for their team's performance ...
The jury is out on Richmond and whether it is a true finals contender. Broadly speaking, inconsistency has been the issue for the Tigers.
They've been almost there.
So has Riewoldt. On Healy's estimation, Riewoldt's 39 goals from 14 games - second in the AFL - amounts to an average season, considering he is at ''All-Australian standard''.
''But it's been a bit difficult for him because they haven't been able to give him much support with a second tall,'' Healy added.
Like the Tigers, Jumping Jack has looked dynamic, booting three bags of four, as well as a six and an eight. But in other matches, he has been shut down, or faded in and out. The jury is out on his season, too.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/forward-thinking-20120714-2239t.html#ixzz20fuNrKzr
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AUDIO: Jack Riewoldt was on SEN yesterday arvo .... [7.11 mins]
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Jack-Riewoldt/5265
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On Sundays game against North and comments about Jack
1. When he wrestled and was flat footed he was hopeless
2. He crashed 3 packs + and spoiled our own players from grabbing the ball
3. When he lead for the ball he looked good and got some shots at goal
a) Is the quality of delivery to him pinpointed here?
4. He got 2 good pounce tackles, one for a free kick and one was nothing according to the umpires, but his defensive attributes were pretty poor
and the most glaring problem
5.
When North were kicking out of defence from their goal square they created an overlap at least 6 times. FFS it looked like a training run.
Our players were caught having to attack a player and cover a player. In each instance the overlap started at the kick in, Jack was standing 5 metres off his man, couldn't contest the ball and because the North player took off our next RFC player had to cover his man or attack the oncoming player. It was shocking football for us and North exploited it to their advantage. If Jack had covered his man at the start this would not have happened and the way North repeated the play I think they had worked out that Jack is not worth much out of defence when he is meant to mark someone and they used it as a standard play.
Conclusion: Opposition sides have worked out one of our key players very well and exploit his weakness to their advantage.
Comments?
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I thought as soon as the arm goes around the body it's a free or is that rule only for Rance :banghead
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On Sundays game against North and comments about Jack
1. When he wrestled and was flat footed he was hopeless
2. He crashed 3 packs + and spoiled our own players from grabbing the ball
3. When he lead for the ball he looked good and got some shots at goal
a) Is the quality of delivery to him pinpointed here?
4. He got 2 good pounce tackles, one for a free kick and one was nothing according to the umpires, but his defensive attributes were pretty poor
and the most glaring problem
5.
When North were kicking out of defence from their goal square they created an overlap at least 6 times. FFS it looked like a training run.
Our players were caught having to attack a player and cover a player. In each instance the overlap started at the kick in, Jack was standing 5 metres off his man, couldn't contest the ball and because the North player took off our next RFC player had to cover his man or attack the oncoming player. It was shocking football for us and North exploited it to their advantage. If Jack had covered his man at the start this would not have happened and the way North repeated the play I think they had worked out that Jack is not worth much out of defence when he is meant to mark someone and they used it as a standard play.
Conclusion: Opposition sides have worked out one of our key players very well and exploit his weakness to their advantage.
Comments?
that had me pulling my hair out!..Players down the line had no choice and no hope, you would think after the first couple of times Hardwick could have sent out a message :banghead
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On Sundays game against North and comments about Jack
1. When he wrestled and was flat footed he was hopeless
2. He crashed 3 packs + and spoiled our own players from grabbing the ball
3. When he lead for the ball he looked good and got some shots at goal
a) Is the quality of delivery to him pinpointed here?
4. He got 2 good pounce tackles, one for a free kick and one was nothing according to the umpires, but his defensive attributes were pretty poor
and the most glaring problem
5.
When North were kicking out of defence from their goal square they created an overlap at least 6 times. FFS it looked like a training run.
Our players were caught having to attack a player and cover a player. In each instance the overlap started at the kick in, Jack was standing 5 metres off his man, couldn't contest the ball and because the North player took off our next RFC player had to cover his man or attack the oncoming player. It was shocking football for us and North exploited it to their advantage. If Jack had covered his man at the start this would not have happened and the way North repeated the play I think they had worked out that Jack is not worth much out of defence when he is meant to mark someone and they used it as a standard play.
Conclusion: Opposition sides have worked out one of our key players very well and exploit his weakness to their advantage.
Comments?
that had me pulling my hair out!..Players down the line had no choice and no hope, you would think after the first couple of times Hardwick could have sent out a message :banghead
Sitting where I was it was so obvious, they exploited us time and again, I am with you there, wouldn't someone twig to that style of play in the coaches box??
PS I wondered whose all that hair was!!
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Thought he was good with little to no support. Also thought he should have been given at least 5 free kicks (countless times he was being held while trying to contest the ball). Having said that, his defensive efforts weren't the best, but by no means were they the worst. Think he actually isn't too bad in that aspect, but did look a little off later in the game.
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Thought he was good with little to no support. Also thought he should have been given at least 5 free kicks (countless times he was being held while trying to contest the ball). Having said that, his defensive efforts weren't the best, but by no means were they the worst. Think he actually isn't too bad in that aspect, but did look a little off later in the game.
He did look off, it is hard to run and play with a dummy in your mouth.
If he could change his attitude when things aren't going his way he would be a SUPERSTAR of the game. Instead he is petulant and not team orientated when the chips are down, he falls over easily struggles to get up leads to the wrong spots.
Minds you some of the delivery he gets is pretty average as well so he does ok with what he gets, it is just that he could be so much more.
Don't get me wrong I want him at RFC and love him but he needs 240 Volts up his backside.
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Without TV in the forward line like he was in 2011, we are too predictable going forward and Jack gets manhandled as a result. As I said, doesn't help that the umpires don't pay the free when it is there either. He needs some support from another tall forward. If they are going to persist with our current back setup, then Griffiths needs to be put up forward to assist.
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Without TV in the forward line like he was in 2011, we are too predictable going forward and Jack gets manhandled as a result. As I said, doesn't help that the umpires don't pay the free when it is there either. He needs some support from another tall forward. If they are going to persist with our current back setup, then Griffiths needs to be put up forward to assist.
if he got on his bike hed dominate simple as that, hes being lazy and initiating contact in a wrestle and the umps have had enough of his sooking and frankly so have a lot of ppl. I have no sympathy whatsoever for him regarding missed freekicks. He is the first richmond gun player I have ever had little time for due to his petulant and blatant grandstanding for free kicks. After EVERY SINGLE CONTEST when he gets beaten he has a look at the umpire screaming for a free. Grow up FFS and be the onfield leader you pupport to be
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No possesions in the last quarter says it all.
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No possesions in the last quarter says it all.
How do you contrast the north set up and kicking to a one on one vs ours?
Or is that his fault as well?
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The one that really annoyed me was in the third quarter.
At 18 minutes to go on the replay we clear the ball from our backline with a long kick to the wing. Riewoldt is second to the ball behind Thompson who falls over (or is pushed by Jack) leaving a clear path to the loose ball. Jack collects an easy ball but is chased by Firrito and gives off a handball to Tuck who has sprinted past Firrito to get involved. Now there's no problem with giving off the ball to Tuck but then he gives a really weak, weak effort to shepherd Firrito who runs past Jack and puts pressure on Tucky who luckily (or by great effort) manages a great long kick over the top to Dusty in the square who holds off his man to kick an easy goal.
The most basic duty of any footballer at any level is to shepherd after giving the ball off.
A weak lazy effort that should be pointed out to a Forward who is on the receiving end of everyone else's work.
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After watching him yesterday
I would trade him and I am serious
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Jack is looking cancerous ala Richo in his 'bad old days'. Richo turned it around and Jack had better follow his lead quick smart.
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Correct
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How do you contrast the north set up and kicking to a one on one vs ours?
Or is that his fault as well?
Serious?
At 6:00 and 3:00 to go in the last we have kicks into the forward line and there is no lead from Jack, he waits back to contest in a pack.
In fact when Tuck gets the free at 3:00 to go you can actually hear Tim Watson urging "come on Jack, move"
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I have a lot of time for jack and reckon he can still become a superstar of the competiton.However I think one of the reasons he doesnt get the frees that are there is because he is constantly complaining to the umpires.This happened a lot early in the game yesterday and more or less set the trend for the rest of the game with the umpires ignoring his pleadings.Despite umpires only paying the frees that are there (supposedly),i think his complaining is stored in the back of their minds and thus affects every other decision where jack is involved
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Should audition for big brother
Most of her energy is wasted on being a drama queen
No more bitch forwards at Punt rd
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Should audition for big brother
:thumbsup
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straight swap for jeremy cameron
cant believe we have a coleman medallist in our list......must trade
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No doubt Cameron will be a better player. Good idea Chuck
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No doubt Cameron will be a better player. Good idea Chuck
Oh yes, absolutely no doubting this one, Uncy. :thumbsup
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Too stuffing easy :fishing
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Your QB now
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Well Jacky boy will kick how many on Saturday, will he chase will he cover his man, did he learn anything last week, we shall see,
my prediction Jack will kick
2/4
1 sling tackle which he will get reported for and will not shepherd or chase anyone down
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Why chase when you can point and yell?
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Bit hard to chase when you have the pace of an 80 year old
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Riewoldt chases like Pettifer
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Who else has more tackles inside 50 than Jack?
Who gets more holding the balls inside 50?
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If GWS won't swap for Cameron, do you think Port will swap for that gun Schulz
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The huggers club back in action I see :fishing No Port wouldn't swap. Schulz is a gun, a good bloke and a tough bastard. :fishing :outtahere no softies allowed at Port :outtahere apart from Pearcey.
Too easy you blokes :lol :fishing
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Jack Riewoldt :lol his dad failed him :lol
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Maybe your not the only one fishing in this pond, Uncle...
(http://images1.shop2wear.com//Fishing/If-fishing-were-easy-if-would-be-called-your-mom-T-Shirt_B1.jpg)
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Slick Willy :thumbsup
Chuck17 (http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gif)
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Easy up, Unc. Chuck happens to be a personal friend of mine.
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Close personal friend if you know what I mean
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Close personal friend if you know what I mean
Does that mean your allowed to call him by his real name?
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I do love Chuck. Mates from the Y&B days
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I do love Chuck. Mates from the Y&B days
Dont underplay it Super Coach were best mates
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I gave you rep
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Okay let's move on from the mutual appreciation society and get back to discussing the topic! :yep
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Good post, o-e. However, I have to spread rep
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:lol :lol
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It's games like tonight that bring out Jack's critics. Jamison got into his head tonight.
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one of the worst footballers l ever seen in my life.
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2/10 for the performance tonight.
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at least he didnt squeal to the umps all night. one small mercy............ I suppose......
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It's games like tonight that bring out Jack's critics. Jamison got into his head tonight.
Over his peeweak efforts, just a lazy footballer, at least he didnt bitch all night which is something i suppose
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he was bitchin tonight. How you think he got a kick when the scum put the ball out delibrite
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he was bitchin tonight. How you think he got a kick when the scum put the ball out delibrite
I stand corrected ;D the funny thing was, he got the free bc hes a tortoise and was trailing Jamieson in the foot race.
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actually that was the best thing he did all night. he hung back knowing the enemy would push the ball out, but with him sitting back it made it look bad thus getting the free. he's done that before too.
doenst make up his overall pee poor effort though
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Who cares about the result of a footy game?
Did you see him on the Footy Show - brilliant as usual, he's learning so much from Sam
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You beat Jamison by giving him trouble when it comes to leading. The bloke will happily wrestle all night.
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there was a stage in the last where we posession on the wing/hff. even on the telly you could see a huge hole for FF to lead to, straight up the middle to CHF. what does jack do?..........
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a) sit on his behind in the square behind Jamieson calling for it over the top
or
b) leads* to the pocket
*10 metre half pace trot may or may not constitute a lead
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Everyone is aware this kid has talent, the space between his ears needs working on in the off season. We badly need another key forward to take the heat off him, a fit Vickery might help but really need another gun forward who hurts the opposition, we need to be stretching defences and at the moment we are too one dimensional for this to happen.
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any other AFL club would have dropped him long ago. RFC are gutless & weak
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Everyone is aware this kid has talent, the space between his ears needs working on in the off season. We badly need another key forward to take the heat off him, a fit Vickery might help but really need another gun forward who hurts the opposition, we need to be stretching defences and at the moment we are too one dimensional for this to happen.
x 2
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l would even draft Fevola cause thats how confident l am that he would do a better job unfit
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Tigermonk I agree with your comments 200%....Send him back to coburg until he grows up, sook .
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basic footballers put thier hands out in front to mark the ball in a contest. This spud Rewoldt trys chest marks in a contested ball.
most users put thier hands out in front also
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Prima Donna.
GO sing happy Birthday to Dimma in a few weeks or better yet kick 8 against Brisbane next week in a game that means sweet fa to us.
Prima Donna petulant insolent why me oh no wha wha wha.
GO on the footy show you goof.
Enough of his half arsed efforts.
Has natural ability spring speed flair skill kicking accuracy and plays like a 45 year old overweight suburban player who can't run can't jump and just wrestles but still recalls the story to his opponent of when he was a young man he once kicked 20 goals in a game. Good for him send him back to Tassie and he can tell his AFL stories how he once kicked 10 against West Coast with Glass Kerr Cox Natanui and co in the side.
Lazy degenerate footballer.
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Isnt Jack going on Big Brother ?
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I would keep him for another 12 months, if he doesnt get his act together then I would put him up for trade to get the 1st pick in the national draft (probably also get a pick in the 2nd round as well or a player) in 2013.
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I would keep him for another 12 months, if he doesnt get his act together then I would put him up for trade to get the 1st pick in the national draft (probably also get a pick in the 2nd round as well or a player) in 2013.
Do it this year for GC's first pick plus Josh Caddy.
:thumbsup
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Leaving.us with the mcgaune/miller key forward duo 8)
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Leaving.us with the mcgaune/miller key forward duo 8)
Cloke, Elton, Vickery FFS
Looks good to me.
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Trade Riewoldt
Value high
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how is his value high?
are you suggesting other clubs rate him and thus are as dumb as RFC?
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l hate the player, His not a team player or follows directions of the coaches
l would seriously trade him & his worth big value.
Full Forward is the easiest posistion on the ground & if you cant play it properly then blokes like Martin, Cotchin, Deledio will soon find another club.
Players dont like busting thier guts for no rewards :banghead
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Full Forward is the easiest posistion on the ground & if you cant play it properly then blokes like Martin, Cotchin, Deledio will soon find another club.
Is this really going to happen
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l hate the player, His not a team player or follows directions of the coaches
l would seriously trade him & his worth big value.
Full Forward is the easiest posistion on the ground & if you cant play it properly then blokes like Martin, Cotchin, Deledio will soon find another club.
Players dont like busting thier guts for no rewards :banghead
Totally agree
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So its not just me who has noticed Reiwoldt is slow and doesn't like wrestling opposition backs. He has to have a seriously big off season to either improve his speed, which is usually done by bulking up the upper body with power muscle or bulk up on strength muscle so he can wrestle these gorillas.
Basically he has to bulk up because he just gets beaten too often, the opposition have figured him out, they can put a tall on him and he can't out mark them and he can't out wrestle them either. And the tall doesn't have to be particularly mobile.
Sure that's also a structural problem with the forward line that the return of Vickery will help but he is full forward and he will always take the number 1 or 2 defender. If the opposition have two tall backs he is stuffed. Maybe he is naturally a half forward flanker, but he's slow for that position. Maybe he is injured?
He badly needs to improve his running and wrestling.
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just trade him, no more excuses please
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Yeh trade him, including the current year he has one the Coleman, came runner up and is currently in second place this year.
As long as we get the right draft picks and they will be used on a gun KPF that will kick goals then go for it. If you trade him without getting a KPF then no one will be kicking goals in our side.
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Id reiwoldt relearns how to run fast at the incomming ball and take out in front insteaf of chestmarks then he is a very key player.
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His attuide and the way he conducts himself on the field is bad not a team player.Doesn't work hard enough for me and just complains to the umpires and whinges and always wants to take a specky.The talent is there he just doesn't put in.When were on song he's up ,but when were not he goes missing.
I just cant believe he has been allowed to conduct himself on the ground all year with the above without Dimma giving him a blast.And if things dont change off to Coburg.
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This discussion makes me wonder if Tambling wasn't recruited by us but hawthorn picked him up instead what sort of player he wouldve been under Clarkson.
And if we did pick Franklin I wonder if he'd be the superstar he is today or would we be having a discussion like the one on this thread.
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Franklin isn't a bitch
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If jack kicks 6 next week you wont call him a bitch.
We are quick to turn.
Even at his worst jacks in our best 10-15.
Should not be dropped in the foreseeable future
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He's a whiny bitch. Has been since Clarence and will be until the end of his career. daddy failed him.
lol if he kicks 6. either back him in to do it or shooooosssh. might kick 9 if Maguire plays on him :lol pity our season is over so it would mean jack poo anyway.
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Richo's advice to Jack to keep moving about and forget about your opponent ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/143497/default.aspx
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He should forget about twitter too #distraction
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He's definately got a groin issue.
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Agree with coach
Jackie still wets her bed
Richo top advice about a year and a half too late
Jackie needs to concentrate on her footy not being a big brother reality tv star
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I could not post the link to this article .It's from the Adelaide Advertiser By Dale Lewis.
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AS RICHMOND fans struggle to come to terms with the disappointment of another wasted year, it's time to ask the question: What should be made of pin-up boy, full forward Jack Riewoldt?
With the Tigers' finals aspirations well and truly buried for another year, Riewoldt needs to be sat down and told to pull his head in.
I am a massive fan of Jack but, like a lot of Richmond fans, I have run out of patience.
While it would be unfair to blame him for the Tigers missing out on the finals yet again, he needs to have a long, hard look at himself and what he brings to the table and the way he carries himself on the field.
Riewoldt has kicked 47 goals so far this season - an average of 2.76 per game.
His best and most consistent period came during rounds six to 10 when he kicked a total of 23 goals which included bags of six and eight against the Hawks and the Saints.
It's no surprise this coincided with the Tigers' best period of the season, yielding four wins and one loss, featuring bags of 8.3 against the Saints and 6.2 against Hawthorn as well as 4.2 and 4.4 in rounds six and seven against Port and Sydney.
Richmond has lost nine games this season by 21 points or less, the past three by less than a goal. In those nine games Riewoldt has kicked 16 goals at an average of 1.77 goals per game.
Imagine if Jack had kicked one more goal in each of those games and been somewhere near his best in the others and the Tigers' season of woe could have been the breakout year for which the club and its fans have long been waiting.
He will most probably end up kicking 60-odd goals. Not a bad effort but for someone of his talent that total should be somewhere in the 80s.
At his brilliant best he is unstoppable, as shown in his breakout season of 2010 where he kicked 78 goals to win the Coleman Medal.
Injuries hampered him in 2011 yet he still managed to kick 62 goals despite a failing body that saw him have five surgeries during the off-season.
But then there is is the other Jack. The petulant one we are seeing on a far more frequent basis.
The one who Tigers fans are starting to turn on, giving him unflattering comparisons with club great Matthew Richardson.
The similarities between bad Jack and Bad Richo are clear but, in Richo's defence, at least during his petulant best he always looked like he was having a crack.
The same can't be said of bad Jack.
While good Jack draws the footy to him, creates contests in the air and on the ground, brings others in to the game and looks genuinely interested in the team goals, bad Jack looks more like a big sook, forever whinging and whining to umpires after giving away undisciplined free kicks.
Getting on the lead appears to be an afterthought as he continues to try to outbody and outmuscle his direct opponents.
It was rare a fortnight that went by in 2010 that he didn't supply us with a mark of the week contender. This year those moments have been very few and far between. And now, being in his sixth year of AFL football, he needs to be far better.
Riewoldt is an 85-100 goal-a-season full forward who is not living up to his potential
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No disrespect to Tom Hawkins,but Jack has more talent then him. The thing is tho if you work hard and get on your bike and don't whinge like a small boy the tide turns.We seen last night what happens when your forward stands up and works hard he wins you games.
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No disrespect to Tom Hawkins,but Jack has more talent then him. The thing is tho if you work hard and get on your bike and don't whinge like a small boy the tide turns.We seen last night what happens when your forward stands up and works hard he wins you games.
Agreed mate with your comments to me Jack when on song is a great reader of the ball he is dangerous in the air on the ground and out the back but just not in stagnant 50/50 contests or to some degree leading :banghead
He should kick 100 one year , needs more meat on his bones and a good shrink but i know probably 14-15 other clubs would kill for a 50-60 goal FF year in year out
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No disrespect to Tom Hawkins,but Jack has more talent then him. The thing is tho if you work hard and get on your bike and don't whinge like a small boy the tide turns.We seen last night what happens when your forward stands up and works hard he wins you games.
Agreed mate with your comments to me Jack when on song is a great reader of the ball he is dangerous in the air on the ground and out the back but just not in stagnant 50/50 contests or to some degree leading :banghead
He should kick 100 one year , needs more meat on his bones and a good shrink but i know probably 14-15 other clubs would kill for a 50-60 goal FF year in year out
No disrespect to the 2 of you but we have made excuses for Jack for 2 years, it's just that he's not that talented just a limited but clever player.
He's had 1 great year and 2 good years.
What we see is what we will get, he gets frustrated because no one had the nuts to sit him down and tell him he isn't as good as he thinks he is.
Once that happens, he will play more to his strengths (he is a 2nd or 3rd forward, Hardwicks words in 2010) and we will structure up accordingly.
But like Lids, once we and he worked out he wasn't ever going to be the no 1 mid, he was comfortable I his role and then thrived.
Is why Travis Cloke would be a massive get for us, can and would be the no 1 power forward and make a huge difference to Jack (if Jacks ego can get its head around that)
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Is why Travis Cloke would be a massive get for us, can and would be the no 1 power forward and make a huge difference to Jack (if Jacks ego can get its head around that)
:thumbsup
:bow
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Would swap for Tom Hawkins.
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Would swap for Tom Hawkins girlfriend
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No wonder he complains about the umpiring, why the eff didnt he get a free for the push in the back in the last quarter.
Dont care that we were up by a shitload it was there and should have been paid, when you think about that weak rs prick Lloyd diving and getting free kicks it a effn rort
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He missed out on a couple he should have been paid last night.
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Better performance by him yesterday marked everything when he leaded out and work hard in the game.Not worried he didnt kick a bag the improvement was the positive for me.Has to keep it up.
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He's definately got an injury. Looks to me it's a groin by the way he's playing.
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Not focused enough
Needs to get off all forms of social media
Did take some very good contested marks
Needs help like TRance its called doing what you get paid to do
That is play Afl football and stay out of the media
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Pretty good game by jack today, come on and get around him boys, show your appreciation
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Won us the game
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Won us the game
Yep. Without a doubt won us the game. And any of the dark clouds who think otherwise are Grade A morons
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Great to see he got on his bike, rode to some open space and took a heap of marks on the lead. Not a suprise because of the former kicked a bag.
I realise the lack of strangth in our opposition however led a lot today than other games and was rewarded. Good work, can't wait for the opposition to stop jack, ty and cloke all leading in different directions at the same time muhahahaha
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He's a whiny bitch. Has been since Clarence and will be until the end of his career. daddy failed him.
lol if he kicks 6. either back him in to do it or shooooosssh. might kick 9 if Maguire plays on him :lol pity our season is over so it would mean jack poo anyway.
Whiny bitch is rough.
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He's a whiny bitch. Has been since Clarence and will be until the end of his career. daddy failed him.
lol if he kicks 6. either back him in to do it or shooooosssh. might kick 9 if Maguire plays on him :lol pity our season is over so it would mean jack poo anyway.
Whiny bitch is rough.
LMAO @ you having to wait until the whiny bitch played at an AFL standard before replying to that post.
Trade the whiny bitch.
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I would ask for two or three decent picks / or 2 and a.player.
Something like the Judd deal.
Even if he is aa bitch he could win the Coleman eight more times.
Cotchin lids martin gotta kick to something. Could be don't know what you got till it gone
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VIDEO: Jack interviewed after the game yesterday ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/478678/In%20the%20rooms:%20Riewoldt%20post%20match%20/
Also Jack is now just 3 goals behind Pavlich in the Coleman Medal race:
After Round 20
Matthew Pavlich 57
Jack Riewoldt 54
Drew Petrie 52
Lance Franklin 51
Tom Hawkins 49
Nick Riewoldt 47
Steven Milne 46
Taylor Walker 45
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I would ask for two or three decent picks / or 2 and a.player.
Something like the Judd deal.
Even if he is aa bitch he could win the Coleman eight more times.
Cotchin lids martin gotta kick to something. Could be don't know what you got till it gone
8 more Colemans after the first fluke season? Good luck to him
;D
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VIDEO: Jack interviewed after the game yesterday ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/478678/In%20the%20rooms:%20Riewoldt%20post%20match%20/
Also Jack is now just 3 goals behind Pavlich in the Coleman Medal race:
After Round 20
Matthew Pavlich 57
Jack Riewoldt 54
Drew Petrie 52
Lance Franklin 51
Tom Hawkins 49
Nick Riewoldt 47
Steven Milne 46
Taylor Walker 45
Little bit sad really to see those numbers, years ago the leading forwards of Dunstal, Lockett, Ablett, Roach etc.. would be in the 80's-90's..modern day footy I suppose.... :-\
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People used to stay in position in those day
Now its rugby
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Jack has joined Titus, Harris, Roach and KB in kicking 50+ goals for three years running ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/144422/default.aspx
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stuffing useless this kid
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Does a great job for a guy that rarely gets the ball delivered to him
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Won us the game
100% right Coach, the game was in the balance for that first twenty seconds before jack put his stamp on the game. Game defining moment.
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Won us the game
100% right Coach, the game was in the balance for that first twenty seconds before jack put his stamp on the game. Game defining moment.
Correct...
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Yes Jacky :clapping
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Needs to kick a bag this week to back up last week.
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Where is the big papi comment
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Had a shocker against the carlscum.....
Unforgivable pee poor effort injury or no injury. :banghead
:facepalm :chuck
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Had a shocker against the carlscum.....
Unforgivable pee poor effort injury or no injury. :banghead
:facepalm :chuck
Quit livin in the past man
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wallowing in misery aint living
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
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Had a shocker against the carlscum.....
Unforgivable pee poor effort injury or no injury. :banghead
:facepalm :chuck
Quit livin in the past man
That loss hurt most this year. I won't get over it unless we smash em round 1 next year.
Easy to kick bags against the dogs and the lions when there's nothing on the line.
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Had a shocker against the carlscum.....
Unforgivable pee poor effort injury or no injury. :banghead
:facepalm :chuck
Quit livin in the past man
That loss hurt most this year. I won't get over it unless we smash em round 1 next year.
Easy to kick bags against the dogs and the lions when there's nothing on the line.
Or against ST Kilda when we hadn't beaten them for 9 seasons but I get what you mean Mr Tigra.
Losing to Carlscum riles me too but lets focus on tomorrow for now and when round 1 2013 is our next game then lets put our eggs in that basket shall we. :thumbsup
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Had a shocker against the carlscum.....
Unforgivable pee poor effort injury or no injury. :banghead
:facepalm :chuck
Quit livin in the past man
That loss hurt most this year. I won't get over it unless we smash em round 1 next year.
Easy to kick bags against the dogs and the lions when there's nothing on the line.
Or against ST Kilda when we hadn't beaten them for 9 seasons but I get what you mean Mr Tigra.
Losing to Carlscum riles me too but lets focus on tomorrow for now and when round 1 2013 is our next game then lets put our eggs in that basket shall we. :thumbsup
I haven't been this upset since we lost to Melbourne by 70 odd points when we were only allowed to lose by no more than 30 odd points to make finals. '98 I think.
I'm suprised too.
Just can't stand carlscum ...... how did we lose????
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lift JR lift. :thumbsup
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
haters gunna hate :fencing
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:fishing
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Saw you got schooled by Coxy yesterday. Don't worry, it happens to even the best posters. He almost got the better of me on Y&B once.
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Saw you got schooled by Coxy yesterday. Don't worry, it happens to even the best posters. He almost got the better of me on Y&B once.
Lol Coxy. Claiming my trade suggestion was video game and then coming back that Merrett should come to Richmond for finals success. :lol
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No, tigs, usually I let you have your say but not this time. Coxy said we should at least talk to Merrett's manager. We should. And we would play finals with Sauce running around in Y&B :cheers
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Saw you got schooled by Coxy yesterday. Don't worry, it happens to even the best posters. He almost got the better of me on Y&B once.
:lol
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No, tigs, usually I let you have your say but not this time. Coxy said we should at least talk to Merrett's manager. We should. And we would play finals with Sauce running around in Y&B :cheers
I have nothing against sauce. But if he chooses to come here purely for finals he's completely lost the plot then I wouldn't want him. What year was the guy born? 84? He's seen us play finals twice. :lol
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willing to take a wager that we play more finals for the duration of his career than brisbane?
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willing to take a wager that we play more finals for the duration of his career than brisbane?
Hell no Brisbane are poo. More pointing out why he'd choose us over any other club that could play finals. Not like we are entrenched in the top 4. Especially when he's not a Victorian so there's no go home factor.
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
i never admitted anywhere he is a fluke, he are buddy r the 2 best fwds in the comp
end of story
2 vast styles but both effective
unlike buddy though, jack can play injured, he is a star our jack
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
i never admitted anywhere he is a fluke, he are buddy r the 2 best fwds in the comp
end of story
2 vast styles but both effective
unlike buddy though, jack can play injured, he is a star our jack
Who is the author of that story? Henry Wiggins and his mashed carrot's?
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Hoping he can take his game to Daniel Pearce levels next year. :pray
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Hoping he can take his game to Daniel Pearce levels next year. :pray
He's showed some signs in his debut year. The Port one though is a downhill skier.
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
i never admitted anywhere he is a fluke, he are buddy r the 2 best fwds in the comp
end of story
2 vast styles but both effective
unlike buddy though, jack can play injured, he is a star our jack
Who is the author of that story? Henry Wiggins and his mashed carrot's?
u obv dont understand sarcasm you tool :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink
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having a shocking yr bla bla
will win the coleman in a shocking yr our jack, must be a crap player lol
Good to see you finally admit his Coleman was a fluke.
i never admitted anywhere he is a fluke, he are buddy r the 2 best fwds in the comp
end of story
2 vast styles but both effective
unlike buddy though, jack can play injured, he is a star our jack
Who is the author of that story? Henry Wiggins and his mashed carrot's?
u obv dont understand sarcasm you tool :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink
God Henry is dumb :fishing
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Jack must fire today.
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Jack must fire today.
Maybe he should buy some heat beads for his next family bbq ;D
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Jack must fire today.
Maybe he should buy some heat beads for his next family bbq ;D
Or head up the next series of The Apprentice :shh
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Needs to have 8 more ops plus a brain transplant he seems to lose his mental focus on the game
Try him up the field more to get him into the game
He's playing like a cat on his eight lives
We need guys with grunt in them that don't smile even at their mums birthday party
We're a happy team at tiger land at the moment
We need to get out of this nicey nicey mode
Happy birthday Damien seriously what other team go carrying on about all these of the field distractions
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Needs to have 8 more ops plus a brain transplant he seems to lose his mental focus on the game
Try him up the field more to get him into the game
He's playing like a cat on his eight lives
We need guys with grunt in them that don't smile even at their mums birthday party
We're a happy team at tiger land at the moment
We need to get out of this nicey nicey mode
Happy birthday Damien seriously what other team go carrying on about all these of the field distractions
Yep, he should be delisted with all the other first year players :lol
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You're carrying on like an after school mum
Relax man I have an opinion and I can't be changed of it
I gave ohanlon five more years so relax
Ok give him ten
Pick the kids up Monday at3.30 pm and take tomorrow off
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You're carrying on like an after school mum
Relax man I have an opinion and I can't be changed of it
I gave ohanlon five more years so relax
Ok give him ten
Pick the kids up Monday at3.30 pm and take tomorrow off
I have an opinion to and it is to laugh at yours :lol where's the problem here? If you going to post it Surley you don't expect everyone to agree with you??
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Get all the mums on board mrs ohanlon
Get me a pick 94 that has made it and I might come on board
Good night
I still think Richmond played well today given the small sized team we played
There is still light at the end of the tunnel
See you at luanceston PS at 3:30pm Monday and enjoy your Sunday
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To be fair to Jack there was no ball getting in there at all and if it did didnt hit the target.Must say tho forwards did bugger all to keep and lock the ball in our forward line with pressure.
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if only he got on his bike and started to jump at the ball instead of wrestling and bodying up defenders
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Jack misses his goal/Riewoldt wants to end AFL season well
Paul Daffey - afl.com.au
Robert Grant - wwos.ninemsn.com.au
Tue 21 Aug, 2012
RICHMMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he's disappointed in his 2012 season despite the fact that he's second on the Coleman Medal table, behind only Fremantle's Matthew Pavlich.
Pavlich has 60 goals and Riewoldt 56, having kicked 78 and 62 goals in the past two seasons.
Riewoldt, 23, said his main concern in 2012 had been inconsistency.
He kicked six goals against Essendon and eight goals against St Kilda during a purple patch in rounds nine and 10, but he's failed to kick a goal in two matches and he's kicked only one goal on five occasions.
In the past two weeks he's kicked five against the Brisbane Lions and two against Fremantle.
"It's been very inconsistent," Riewoldt said of his season.
"In terms of kicking goals, I've kicked the second most in the competition, but in terms of where I want to be and where the club wants me to be … I wouldn't rate it a failure but it’s not up to the standard I've set myself.
"Consistency will have to be something I'll work on next year.
"I just hope to play all right over the next two weeks and hopefully finish on a good note."
Riewoldt went into the 2012 season below his best after taking time to recover from five operations during the off-season.
He had an ankle reconstruction, a shoulder reconstruction, two operations on his hips and an operation on a finger, and then spent a month on painkillers.
He was unsure whether he faced more surgery after the 2012 season.
"Hopefully I don’t go through the same process as last year," Riewoldt said.
"It probably set me back a bit before this season.
"I'll have my medical at the end of the year. If they deem that I need something done, I'll have something done.
"If not, I'll go away on a holiday and come back fighting fit when I return for the pre-season."
Riewoldt says one of the Tigers' main regrets this season has been their inability to at last give veteran skipper Chris Newman a chance to play AFL finals.
The Tigers are 12th in the ladder after a topsy-turvy season which has included some extremely unlucky losses.
Their season has included eight losses by 21 points or fewer - in rounds 16-18 they suffered infamous defeats to Gold Coast, North Melbourne and Carlton by less than a goal.
They are desperate to finish the season on a high with wins over Essendon and Port Adelaide.
The Tigers are not qualified for a finals series since 2001.
"It is very, very disappointing for our group, no more than for Chris Newman," Riewoldt said.
"This year we had a real focus to try and play finals for him - it's obviously been well documented that he hasn't played finals."
The Tigers fell out of finals calculations after dropping three straight games to Gold Coast, North Melbourne and Carlton, all by less than a single goal.
"We sort of felt that we were good enough to play finals this year," said Riewoldt.
"The ball bounces a couple of different ways those three weeks and we lose by a goal.
"We were probably right in the hunt to have a shot in September but unfortunately we're in the position now where we can't make it."
However, Riewoldt said the club was still focusing on finishing off on a bright note, starting with the clash against Essendon on Friday night.
"It's still a really big two weeks for the club," he said.
"I'd like to think we can finish 11 and 11, and finish on an even scale of win and loss for the year.
"It's something we haven't done for a while."
Riewoldt said Richmond would focus mainly on the closing two rounds, hoping to gain impetus for next year, rather than concentrating too much on the 2013 lead-up.
"If you even start thinking about pre-season, or round one next year or NAB Cup or anything like that, your focus goes away from what footy is actually about and it's about Friday night for us," he said.
"It's about putting a side out on the park that can compete and hopefully coming away with a result.
"No doubt, if we can get a couple of wins over these next two weeks, it definitely puts us in good stead for next year and we can take a little bit of momentum into pre-season."
The 23-year-old said coach Damien Hardwick's comments about Fremantle pulling a ruse by bringing in Aaron Sandilands at the last second before their match at Patersons Stadium on Saturday were made in the heat of the moment.
Sandilands was named among the emergencies when the teams were lodged 90 minutes before the match.
He was included in Fremantle's team after ruckman Jonathon Griffin had tweaked his groin during the warm-up, and his performance in the first half helped to set up Fremantle's 22-point victory.
"I wasn't too fussed," Riewoldt said.
"It was a bit of a heat-of-the-moment comment after the game.
"We move on and focus on Essendon."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/145202/default.aspx
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8519527
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onya jack :thumbsup
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"We sort of felt that we were good enough to play finals this year," said Riewoldt.
WTF is that
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at least he is honest nothing wrong with that
everyone at the club wanted finals and expected finals.
Still not strong enough between the ears that's why we missed finals, lack of personnel is an excuse.
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Could have ended up with more goals than the last two years if he'd kicked straight this season.
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irrelevant
He sooked and brooded through 2012
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onya jack :thumbsup
Thanks ;)
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irrelevant
He sooked and brooded through 2012
I thought that was you Ox. ;D
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VIDEO: Jack's press conference today ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/481684/riewoldt+press+conference/default.aspx
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irrelevant
I've sooked and brooded through 2012
I thought that was you Ox. ;D
It is
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Was just reading a email about Round 22 Build up ;D
Find it funny Rewoldt saying his in the leadership group when his the biggest crybaby on the field
Some leader that guy is hahahha. Spent loads of time with Conners ;D berates his players onfield when its his player that does the damage & sooks constantly to the umpire instead of chasing down his man carrying the ball out of the forward line.
That is a serious problem right there at the club that l hope Dimma kicks this goose out of the leadership group.
The guy can play good football & if he put his mind solidly focused on the game. l want to see a different Rewoldt next season who attacks the ball hard & brings his teammates into the game around him.
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The lowdown on Coleman Medal hopefuls
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
August 23, 2012
THIS year's Coleman medallist is on track to record the lowest tally since 1975.
Leigh Matthews booted 67 majors that season to snare his only Coleman Medal, but with current leader Matthew Pavlich sitting on 60 goals, this year's contenders are every chance to go under that mark.
Goalkicking legends Brian Taylor and Paul Salmon said yesterday it was a trend footy fans should get used to, with modern game plans leaning towards sharing the scoring.
But former Hawthorn and North Melbourne forward Nathan Thompson said each of this year's leading goalkickers had excuses for their low hauls, such as injury or form slumps.
Pavlich leads Jack Riewoldt (56), Drew Petrie (55), Tom Hawkins (54), Lance Franklin (51) and Stephen Milne (50) with two matches remaining.
And each of those forwards would give themselves a chance of finishing on top with games against lower-ranked sides to come.
Milne's St Kilda plays Greater Western Sydney this week, while Geelong (Hawkins) takes on the Western Bulldogs. In the final round, Pavlich's Fremantle faces Melbourne, Richmond (Riewoldt) plays Port Adelaide and North Melbourne (Petrie) faces the Giants.
Taylor, the 1986 Coleman winner, said he expected future winners to record similar tallies.
"There's definitely going to be greater spread with the way the game's now played. Much more dependence is placed on the team kicking goals, particularly the midfield, not just any one forward.
"I'm not going to say a forward won't kick somewhere near 100 goals, but it's getting more and more unlikely with the way the game is played and also the type of player that we're bringing in to the game."
Salmon, who kicked 561 goals in 324 games for Essendon and Hawthorn, agreed.
"Certainly the game is not encouraging single key forwards to dominate proceedings. It's not the best thing for anyone's game plan, so that's the changing nature of it.
"Plus, it's hard to imagine another era that unearths the quality of full-forwards that were around in the 1980s and '90s.
"It doesn't mean that if a Tony Lockett didn't walk through the door that you wouldn't play him out of the goalsquare and wouldn't channel a lot of ball through him. But that type of player doesn't exist as much as they did."
But Thompson, who kicked 327 goals in 179 games, said key forwards would continue to push the 100-goal mark.
"I don't think it's a trend," Thompson said.
"If you look at it, Lance Franklin has missed a lot of football, if he plays every game he probably kicks 100 nearly. Tom Hawkins had a really slow start to the year, but if he was playing the type of footy he is now he'd probably be up around 70 or 80.
"Drew Petrie's a ruckman and forward. Jack Riewoldt, even by his estimations, probably hasn't had his best year, but he's still up near the top of the goalkicking table."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/the-lowdown-on-coleman-medal-hopefuls/story-e6frf9io-1226456156172
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Jack took 9 marks inside forward 50 last night :o. Too bad his radar was off kicking 3.5. He could have easily kicked half-a-dozen. He still seems to be carrying something or some legacy of the ops he had last offseason. He also is still struggling kicking beyond 40m with any accuracy.
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Last couple of weeks has stopped the petulance as well.
Real show for the Coleman this year if he kicks a bag aginst the Port.
Get around him guys.
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Gun player. Loves his footy and loves the tiges.
:thumbsup
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Jack will be on Ch 7's AFL Gameday shown at 10am.
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Was awesome on friday. Worked very hard and was unselfish
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If Pav is rested tomorrow than it comes down to the last round on deciding the coleman.
They play melbourne so Pav will most likely kick a bag.
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Was awesome on friday. Worked very hard and was unselfish
:thumbsup
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If Jack kicked more accurately he would be over 80 goals this year, has missed some very easy set shots ...
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If Pav is rested tomorrow than it comes down to the last round on deciding the coleman.
They play melbourne so Pav will most likely kick a bag.
Pav is out.
I didn't think they would risk him.
With Poort next week, Jack might snatch the Coleman.
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If Pav is rested tomorrow than it comes down to the last round on deciding the coleman.
They play melbourne so Pav will most likely kick a bag.
Pav is out.
I didn't think they would risk him.
With Poort next week, Jack might snatch the Coleman.
Petrie is a chance too with Freo today and GWS next week.
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If Jack kicked more accurately he would be over 80 goals this year, has missed some very easy set shots ...
But he didn't because he's a bigg sook.
While ur on the,"Ifs",
If Buddy had have played all the games he would be pooting on "Jack the slipper"
Jack mouthed off and let things got o his head and now he's copping it.
Notice how he doesn't mouth off to his team mates at the kick in any more??
Wanker!!!
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Freo belting the Kangas.
I wonder if they'll risk Pav next week now that they're safe in the top 8?
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Freo belting the Kangas.
I wonder if they'll risk Pav next week now that they're safe in the top 8?
Ross Lyon said they hope Pav plays but there's no guarantees...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/145764/default.aspx
In any case Jack is just one goal behind Pav and our game is the day after Freo's so Jack will know how many he will need to kick to win the Coleman.
Pavlich 60
J.Riewoldt 59
Hawkins 58
Franklin 55
Milne 55
Petrie 55
Walker 53
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We will find some way to botch this..
Or port will play 3 men on jack and let nahas and MCG kick bags
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lets hope chaplin plays on jack and he looks after his new team mate lol
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lets hope chaplin plays on jack and he looks after his new team mate lol
Chaplin's season ended a few weeks back so he's not playing. Carlile or Trengove will get the job on Jack.
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lets hope chaplin plays on jack and he looks after his new team mate lol
Chaplin's season ended a few weeks back so he's not playing. Carlile or Trengove will get the job on Jack.
Cheers been overseas so have missed a chunk of footy ...
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TAB Sportsbet has Pavlich a $2.50 chance to claim the goalkicking crown, from Riewoldt ($3) and Hawkins ($3.50).
Lance Franklin and Drew Petrie, both with 55 goals, are seen as longshots at $15.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/145823/default.aspx
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TAB Sportsbet has Pavlich a $2.50 chance to claim the goalkicking crown, from Riewoldt ($3) and Hawkins ($3.50).
Lance Franklin and Drew Petrie, both with 55 goals, are seen as longshots at $15.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/145823/default.aspx
Pavlich won't play?
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Essendum had no backline and you did not make the most of the opportunity.
Very frustrating to watch
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Gave an easy one off to Nahas as well from memory, trying to do the 'team thing' when he should just go back and kick it.
Was difficult apparently with the wind and set shots at goal (according to Cotchin), still should have had 5 minimum 8)
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He should have kicked 15 goals agains the bummers.
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Where are all the jack haters now.
Cmon haters show your support for Jack to win the Coleman
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Where are all the jack haters now.
Cmon haters show your support for Jack to win the Coleman
We won this week so they're all snoozing under their bridges ;D
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True True
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jackstar haters are everywhere lol
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jackstar haters are everywhere lol
SHHHHHHHHHH :shh
If you say that name three times then many ::) appear.
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u reap what u sow.
Wasted season as far as conversion opportunities,went backwards in body language and chose to brood in the eye of adversity.
A shocker in comparison to his 2011.
Seemed tp mentally struggle.
Wouldn't even be a sniff if Franklin wasn't such a party animal and forced to miss matches.
Hope he can live up to everything he thought he could
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u reap what u sow.
Wasted season as far as conversion opportunities,went backwards in body language and chose to brood in the eye of adversity.
A shocker in comparison to his 2011.
Seemed tp mentally struggle.
Wouldn't even be a sniff if Franklin wasn't such a party animal and forced to miss matches.
Hope he can live up to everything he thought he could
How many Coleman's would you be requiring Jack to win to reach your standards
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60 goals over 22 games
If 2.72 goals a game wins a Coleman then idgaf about it
FTR,Chucki,
it's really not about your idiot savant attaining my standards
but rather his own.
With blind followers like yourself it's no wonder we have a losing culture.
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u reap what u sow.
Wasted season as far as conversion opportunities,went backwards in body language and chose to brood in the eye of adversity.
A shocker in comparison to his 2011.
Seemed tp mentally struggle.
Wouldn't even be a sniff if Franklin wasn't such a party animal and forced to miss matches.
Hope he can live up to everything he thought he could
How many Coleman's would you be requiring Jack to win to reach your standards
?
?
(http://www.dreamstime.com/man-looking-in-window-thumb20744907.jpg)
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Not sure about whether I have my eyes open or not affects Richmonds culture but anyway....
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u reap what u sow.
Wasted season as far as conversion opportunities,went backwards in body language and chose to brood in the eye of adversity.
A shocker in comparison to his 2011.
Seemed tp mentally struggle.
Wouldn't even be a sniff if Franklin wasn't such a party animal and forced to miss matches.
Hope he can live up to everything he thought he could
How many Coleman's would you be requiring Jack to win to reach your standards
?
?
(http://www.dreamstime.com/man-looking-in-window-thumb20744907.jpg)
LOL your a sicko but I still like you Coach
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u reap what u sow.
Wasted season as far as conversion opportunities,went backwards in body language and chose to brood in the eye of adversity.
A shocker in comparison to his 2011.
Seemed tp mentally struggle.
Wouldn't even be a sniff if Franklin wasn't such a party animal and forced to miss matches.
Hope he can live up to everything he thought he could
How many Coleman's would you be requiring Jack to win to reach your standards
?
?
(http://www.dreamstime.com/man-looking-in-window-thumb20744907.jpg)
LOL your a sicko but I still like you Coach
Y&B mates forever. Gave you rep, hun :)
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Pavlich named for Freo but Richo reckons he won't play. Totally unbiased of course our Richo lol :wallywink.
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Richo needs a haircut the limpgot
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He could win the Coleman and not finish in the top 5 of our B&F. I bet everyone else in the top 5 of the Coleman will finish in the top 5 of their clubs B&F. Have we underrated Jacks year?
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Tigers won't Jack up
By Paul Daffey
Fri 31 Aug, 2012
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says full-forward Jack Riewoldt will receive no special favours from teammates against Port Adelaide at the MCG on Sunday, despite the fact that he's in a neck-and-neck race for the Coleman Medal.
Fremantle's Matthew Pavlich, with 60 goals, heads the Coleman Medal table going into this weekend's final round.
Riewoldt has 59 goals and Geelong key forward Tom Hawkins has 58.
"It’s one of those things," Hardwick said.
"If he wins it, he wins it. It's not something we're worried about.
"We’re just interested in finishing the season on a good note, and getting the four points.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/146290/default.aspx
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He could win the Coleman and not finish in the top 5 of our B&F. I bet everyone else in the top 5 of the Coleman will finish in the top 5 of their clubs B&F. Have we underrated Jacks year?
Nope.. He's been disappointing and if he wins the Coleman it will only be because Buddy went down and Pav mightn't play this week.
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If he had converted more opportunities he would have blitzed the Coleman and rated his year!
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Don't forget all you haters to get on board and support our crap coleman medallist in getting another one
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He could win the Coleman and not finish in the top 5 of our B&F. I bet everyone else in the top 5 of the Coleman will finish in the top 5 of their clubs B&F. Have we underrated Jacks year?
Nope.. He's been disappointing and if he wins the Coleman it will only be because Buddy went down and Pav mightn't play this week.
I totally agree. Unless he has been playing with periodic injuries there have been games when he has been woeful. I think we have been close to the top of the leaderboard in regards to I50's for the year - so there are no excuses.
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Man have you seen those inside 50's long bombs to about 30 players.
Maybe if he does win the Coleman maybe we can start a petition to have it taken off hm because he hasnt lived up to our standards.
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::)
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i want a new FF FFS :banghead
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Rhonda is mine
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Trade him for Buddy now.
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Get it done Tiges :clapping
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Get it done Tiges :clapping
:clapping
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Trade him for Buddy now.
If buddy is still there at Pick 4 we should pounce. Has more upside than Tambling and had the body size and ability to become an elite forward..... ::)
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At 1/4 time last night it looked like Buddy was going to end up with 10+ goals and pinch the Coleman. Thankfully he didn't kick another so one less Jack has to worry about. If Jack is good enough to win it on Sunday then he deserves it. Averaging 3 goals per game for a key forward isn't terrible. Richo only kicked more than mid-60 goals in a season once (91 in 1996) and his next highest was 67. The big fella only kicked more than 60 goals 4 times yet he has about a dozen club top goalkicker awards. Of course Jack can play better than he has this year but it doesn't say much for the rest in the Coleman race that over a season they still can't beat his output despite his troubles with inaccuracy this year and him not leading enough at the ball when he should've.
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Yeah but Richo normally missed 5 games a season. Riewoldt never misses a game and he's our only target in the air ;D 3 goals a game is very good. It'd just be nice if he played with the same attitude every week. His game last week was great I thought.
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Jack is a good player but not Richo nor Buddys or Pavs back wind hole.
He get frustrated because he thinks he's a better player than he is.
If someone could get that message through his thick head, everyone would be better off - including him and his body language.
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Don't forget all you haters to get on board and support our crap coleman medallist in getting another one
stuff me you're a nuffer, had a poo year, deal with it.
Talking up the first sub 70 goal Coleman medalist in 50 .... :thatsgold
nfi
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Don't forget all you haters to get on board and support our crap coleman medallist in getting another one
stuff me you're a nuffer, had a poo year, deal with it.
Talking up the first sub 70 goal Coleman medalist in 50 .... :thatsgold
nfi
Dont be all bitter and angry, get some yellow and black in you and support your teams FF
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Don't forget all you haters to get on board and support our crap coleman medallist in getting another one
stuff me you're a nuffer, had a poo year, deal with it.
Talking up the first sub 70 goal Coleman medalist in 50 .... :thatsgold
nfi
Dont be all bitter and angry, get some yellow and black in you and support your teams FF
Lmao fanboy
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Don't forget all you haters to get on board and support our crap coleman medallist in getting another one
stuff me you're a nuffer, had a poo year, deal with it.
Talking up the first sub 70 goal Coleman medalist in 50 .... :thatsgold
nfi
Dont be all bitter and angry, get some yellow and black in you and support your teams FF
Lmao fanboy
Cmon just a little bit of support, it wont kill you
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"body language"
Lmao @ all the new age limpgots
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"body language"
Lmao @ all the new age limpgots
How is that new age limp got?
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Exactly. Shut up gerks. Tony and y&b are spot on
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How much does Jacky Boi need to win it now?
Tummy Porkins kicked 4..
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Jack needs 3 to tie and 4 to win it outright (unless Pav plays).
Hawkins 62
Pavlich 60*
J.Riewoldt 59*
Franklin 59
Petrie 55*
* - have not played yet
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Jack needs 3 to tie and 4 to win it outright (unless Pav plays).
Hawkins 62
Pavlich 60*
J.Riewoldt 59*
Franklin 59
Petrie 55*
* - have not played yet
He'll kick 2.6 lol
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Jack needs 3 to tie and 4 to win it outright (unless Pav plays).
Hawkins 62
Pavlich 60*
J.Riewoldt 59*
Franklin 59
Petrie 55*
* - have not played yet
He'll kick 2.6 lol
In the first quarter ;D
If we are way in front in the last quarter watch Jack stay close to goal and everyone try to pass the ball to him even if they are running into an open goal lol.
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What better springboard for 2014 if Jack got the coleman and Cotch got charlie? Wouldn't be able to wipe the smile off my face for a while ;D
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I don't like the all about Jack attitude. We've had to put up with it being all about him all year. Another game like last week will do me just fine. Pass when others are in a better spot and kick the goal when it's your turn to go back and slot it. If he wins the Coleman, sweet. If not, WGAF.
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What better springboard for 2014 if Jack got the coleman and Cotch got charlie? Wouldn't be able to wipe the smile off my face for a while ;D
Got us going back-to-back already CUB? :highfive
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lol - Sorry 2015 ;D
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Coleman should be awarded to any forward who kicks a hundred a season.
Any less should be nothing
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No late changes for the Freo game so Pavlich will play tonight.
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Coleman should be awarded to any forward who kicks a hundred a season.
Any less should be nothing
Well stuff me, OX has had a good idea.
:cheers
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Exactly. Shut up gerks. Tony and y&b are spot on
Are they? :lol
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ok
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No late changes for the Freo game so Pavlich will play tonight.
Hungry pricks. They want the Coleman coz they know they will be poo in finals.
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Freo can't beat the Dees by any more than 11 pts if they don't want to play Geelong in Melbourne next week. So the Dockers could tank it tonight so they get a Perth final.
Petrie only kicked two with North going through the motions with GWS. So he's out of the Coleman race as well.
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Freo can't beat the Dees by any more than 11 pts if they don't want to play Geelong in Melbourne next week. So the Dockers could tank it tonight so they get a Perth final.
Petrie only kicked two with North going through the motions with GWS. So he's out of the Coleman race as well.
poo.. I've got Freo win in me multi.
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looks to be a goaless 1st qtr by pav
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1.2 to half time :clapping
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Pav with 2 goals at 3/4 time. So he's now level with Hawkins on 62 three ahead of Jack.
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Wouldn't want to have to kick more than 5 tomorrow. Even against Port.
Allow Pav one more and she'll be apples
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Wouldn't want to have to kick more than 5 tomorrow. Even against Port.
Allow Pav one more and she'll be apples
Yess BIG MAN
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Wouldn't want to have to kick more than 5 tomorrow. Even against Port.
Allow Pav one more and she'll be apples
Yess BIG MAN
:clapping
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So whats the equation then ::)
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So whats the equation then ::)
Put Jack in a good footy enviroment and he would kick 900 in a season YESSS BIG MAN
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So whats the equation then ::)
Needs 3 to tie with Pav and Hawkins, 4 to win outright :clapping
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So whats the equation then ::)
Needs 3 to tie with Pav and Hawkins, 4 to win outright :clapping
Yep it should be an easy job which means he will probably only kick 1 or 0
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So whats the equation then ::)
Needs 3 to tie with Pav and Hawkins, 4 to win outright :clapping
Sweeeeet, should have a coleman dangling from his neck by qtr time :clapping
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
Are you on the AA selection Panel mate? As if he is going to get picked :lol
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You'd think 4 goals should be a walk in the park against Port.
He might have it done and dusted by quarter time.
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You'd think 4 goals should be a walk in the park against Port.
He might have it done and dusted by quarter time.
You clearly underestimate Carlile.....
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Will Chaplin be our runner for this game?
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
Are you on the AA selection Panel mate? As if he is going to get picked :lol
Gee he ll givem something to think about though :shh
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You'd think 4 goals should be a walk in the park against Port.
He might have it done and dusted by quarter time.
You clearly underestimate Carlile.....
It's not that.
Beautiful day, light breeze...
I just expect us to dominate the centre clearance and "brownlow" cotchin to put the ball lace out down jacks throat.
I'm expecting a big day from jackie boy.
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
Are you on the AA selection Panel mate? As if he is going to get picked :lol
The AA selection panel in recent years has always selected the Coleman medal winner. The last time the Coleman medal winner missed was back in 2005 (Gehrig) when they put Peter Everitt in a FP next to Swans premiership captain Barry Hall at FF so they could have two ruckmen (Cox and Everitt) in the side. Now days footy is played mainly with one main ruckman so only one ruck will get in and there'll be 3 spots for tall forwards.
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
Are you on the AA selection Panel mate? As if he is going to get picked :lol
The AA selection panel in recent years has always selected the Coleman medal winner. The last time the Coleman medal winner missed was back in 2005 (Gehrig) when they put Peter Everitt in a FP next to Swans premiership captain Barry Hall at FF so they could have two ruckmen (Cox and Everitt) in the side. Now days footy is played mainly with one main ruckman so only one ruck will get in and there'll be 3 spots for tall forwards.
Pav, Walker, Hawkins, Petrie & Buddy have all been a lot better than Jack this year. Pav would have to be named FF even if Jack kicks 70 tomorrow. Buddy CHF and Hawkins or Walker in a pocket.
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KB said on his show during the week that the AA full forward isn't necessary awarded to the Coleman Medalist
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Everyone is carrying on like we've already won this game
Listening to the media they're already saying we've won 11 for the year, ppl in here saying jacks a shoe in for the coleman. Game may be closer than most people think.
Jack to kick 3.4 for mine, but of course I hope he kirks more
You get em you big ranga sook you!!! :gotigers
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Everyone is carrying on like we've already won this game
Listening to the media they're already saying we've won 11 for the year, ppl in here saying jacks a shoe in for the coleman. Game may be closer than most people think.
Jack to kick 3.4 for mine, but of course I hope he kirks more
You get em you big ranga sook you!!! :gotigers
We win, cotch 30 touches, 2 goals. Sooki Mcsook sook kick 4 goals 3 with 1 oobotf.
I mentioned to Sooki he and my son have something in common at a foot clinic last year, he asked what and I said you are both "Rangas" and held the little fella up over my head.
He grunted "I don't have red hair" and walked off "abrrrrrrr"!
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Riewoldt should have kicked at least 90 this year
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KB said on his show during the week that the AA full forward isn't necessary awarded to the Coleman Medalist
:thumbsup
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Hope Jack kicks a bag today and wins the coleman. His kicking for goal hasn't been great this year so it is no gurantee. Buddy would have won the coleman bar for his injury and therefore will get the nod for AA selection
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Riewoldt should have kicked at least 90 this year
And Buddy should have kicked 150....
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Should we invade the ground if/when he kicks his 4th?
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Hope Jack kicks a bag today and wins the coleman. His kicking for goal hasn't been great this year so it is no gurantee. Buddy would have won the coleman bar for his injury and therefore will get the nod for AA selection
now thats BS
so buddy gets the AA nod because he was injured and coulda shoulda won the Coleman.
so then jack should get the AA nod because his kicking hasn't been great this year and shoulda won the coleman.
Buddy missed 6 games this year and has hardly had a AA year.
Should go to the winner and then perhaps Pav in a pocket
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Best average not overall winner but you would have to play at least 14 games
Only a thought
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100 + :cheers
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Best average not overall winner but you would have to play at least 14 games
Only a thought
Schulzy all australian if he kicks a bag today then :cheers
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Shultz is a dud.
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Shultz is a dud.
Yess BIG MAN :clapping
Yess! :clapping
Coach is funny
:lol
can you please go back to Y&B cause we all hate your guts?
Aww :) it's ok coachy, it's ok :-*
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Shultz is a dud.
Yess BIG MAN :clapping
Yess! :clapping
Coach is funny
:lol
Careful, that sort of comment got me 48 hrs in the sin bin.
:lol
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I'm going to streak when Jack kicks his 4th.
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4 to go Jack :thumbsup.
He'll also get the All-Australian Full-Forward possie if he kicks 4. So much for a crap year if that happens lol.
So if he kicks 3 do we have 3 AA full forwards??
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:lol
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"now thats BS
so buddy gets the AA nod because he was injured and coulda shoulda won the Coleman.
so then jack should get the AA nod because his kicking hasn't been great this year and shoulda won the coleman.
Buddy missed 6 games this year and has hardly had a AA year.
Should go to the winner and then perhaps Pav in a pocket"
You are not being realistic. Bar for that injury Buddy was having a very good year. He gets the AA selection because when he has played he has been very good bar for the game against us. Secondly I was not saying that Jack shouldn't get AA selection because he has been kicking badly what I was saying was that there is no guarantee he will win the coleman especially if he kicks inaccurately. Just because you win the coleman doesn't mean you should win AA selection. Pav and Hawkins have had good years and surely will be in the running for AA selection.
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I'm going to streak when Jack kicks his 4th.
Tiprat might kick 9
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I'm going to streak when Jack kicks his 4th.
Tiprat might kick 9
No chance. 4-5 max
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Pity we aren't playing the Saints, he'd kick a minimum of 6 goals.
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100 goals = Coleman
< 100 goals = Cole aka shitman.
Getting excited about this is like jacking off over the closing credits of a documentary
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100 goals = Coleman
< 100 goals = Cole aka pooman.
Getting excited about this is like jacking off over the closing credits of a documentary
:lol
Documetary on bootstuders daughter??
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Should we invade the ground if/when he kicks his 4th?
Depends how big the crowd is. If 2 men and his dog show up then no they will hit you with a $7500 fine. If it's a 35-40k crowd to see him kick it then why the stuff not.
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100 goals = Coleman
< 100 goals = Cole aka pooman.
Getting excited about this is like jacking off over the closing credits of a documentary
what alot of rot oxx, that makes as much sense as only handing out a 100m gold medal if the winner clocks <9.5 secs....How much does a horse have to win the Melb cup by ::)...gimmee a break...last time i checked to WIN you need only beat the field behind you. If jack salutes then we need to gather round an applaud the greatest goal kicker of 2012 :shh
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"now thats BS
so buddy gets the AA nod because he was injured and coulda shoulda won the Coleman.
so then jack should get the AA nod because his kicking hasn't been great this year and shoulda won the coleman.
Buddy missed 6 games this year and has hardly had a AA year.
Should go to the winner and then perhaps Pav in a pocket"
You are not being realistic. Bar for that injury Buddy was having a very good year. He gets the AA selection because when he has played he has been very good bar for the game against us. Secondly I was not saying that Jack shouldn't get AA selection because he has been kicking badly what I was saying was that there is no guarantee he will win the coleman especially if he kicks inaccurately. Just because you win the coleman doesn't mean you should win AA selection. Pav and Hawkins have had good years and surely will be in the running for AA selection.
You sure. Apart from the first quarter he hardly did anything the other night so that's 7 games including 6 he missed. Add the tiger game and a few quiet ones in the first half of the year and you don't get a AA FF.
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Well done Jack, another Coleman!
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2 time Coleman medallist is a great achievement well done Jack.
:gotigers
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Congratul8 to JR8
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2 time Coleman medallist is a great achievement well done Jack.
:gotigers
Clubs probably working on the Jack memorabilia as we speak lol :lol
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Well done jack. :thumbsup
Top effort this year despite having no help up forward all year. Not to mention his groin injury he's been nursing all season aswell.
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Well done jack, greatest goal kicker of 2012, to think he came into this season following 5 post season ops then mid year badly rolled an ankle and then come out on top speaks volumes, stand up and applaud :clapping
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lucky sob
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Well done jack, greatest goal kicker of 2012, to think he came into this season following 5 post season ops then mid year badly rolled an ankle and then come out on top speaks volumes, stand up and applaud :clapping
The best and most courageous forward in Richmond's history? :clapping
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Stand tall jack and look at the field in your wake, whoa No. 1 goal kicking Ace in the country :clapping
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He should hand it back for not beating the Hudson/ Pratt record of 150 goals a season.
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He should hand it back for not beating the Hudson/ Pratt record of 150 goals a season.
Agree, disgraceful
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VIDEO: Jack captures the Coleman ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/486385/default.aspx
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He should hand it back for not beating the Hudson/ Pratt record of 150 goals a season.
Agree, disgraceful
Two disgraceful posts towards a courageous Richmond legend.
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He should hand it back for not beating the Hudson/ Pratt record of 150 goals a season.
Agree, disgraceful
Two disgraceful posts towards a courageous Richmond legend.
He is lazy and a sook... wake up... FFS
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He should hand it back for not beating the Hudson/ Pratt record of 150 goals a season.
Agree, disgraceful
Two disgraceful posts towards a courageous Richmond legend.
I can't help it, i hate positive things happening at our club. We should forever do our best to down play personal achievements.
And btw, if Cotch wins the Brownlow and he does not poll 30 plus votes then he should hand it to John Butcher.
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Yess big man
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Perhaps it's just me but I was amazed at the reaction of the crowd when Jack kicked the Coleman goal
We were still behind, 2 goals for memory and sorry but I just couldn't get excited about that goal.
For me the win was the most important thing and we didn't get it
But congrats Jack
BTW I reckon if you asked him jack would have preferred a win rather than the Coleman
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if he had of kicked straight,we would have
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if he had of kicked straight,we would have
No if that dud McGuane who ran into an open goal early in the last kicked it from 5 out then we would have.
Anyway well done to Jack. He gets to ride around on Grand Final Day pre game on a Toyota Hilux. ;D
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Should they have sealed to game first before getting Jack to his Coleman target?
Probably should be the only Coleman medalist not to make the AA
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Should they have sealed to game first before getting Jack to his Coleman target?
Absolutely, that was the plan ;D
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if he had of kicked straight,we would have
No if that dud McGuane who ran into an open goal early in the last kicked it from 5 out then we would have.
Anyway well done to Jack. He gets to ride around on Grand Final Day pre game on a Toyota Hilux. ;D
If Port were awarded that goal in the forward line that wasn't touched, we would have and should have lost. Umpires robbed port all day.
McGuane still kicked two goals and took some great marks. What about the dud efforts of Ohanlon, Nahas, Astbury, Ellis, Martin, Hellbig, Deledio, Newman.... Could go on.. If you want to blame someone for the draw, blame Hardwick. Dud match day coach. Should get the sack. Newman announcing giving up the captaincy before the game. Selfish....
Good to see Reiwoldt back at full forward and not being lost up the ground. Thanks Hardwick for two years of stuffing him around.
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Gotta be joking about Riewoldt playing up the ground. Bloke spends more time in the 50 than any other player in the comp
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Great effort.
Had to put up with the donkey miller in his way too.
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Perhaps it's just me but I was amazed at the reaction of the crowd when Jack kicked the Coleman goal
We were still behind, 2 goals for memory and sorry but I just couldn't get excited about that goal.
For me the win was the most important thing and we didn't get it
But congrats Jack
BTW I reckon if you asked him jack would have preferred a win rather than the Coleman
Ooh that was me, i was carrying on like i won the lotto :lol
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Leading goal kicker 2012 get a grip people fantastic effort and achievement for the club.
Beat the likes of Franklin Pav Tommahawk who most of you will drop your load over but not Jack. GET REAL well done Jack :clapping
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Gotta be joking about Riewoldt playing up the ground. Bloke spends more time in the 50 than any other player in the comp
:bow
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Perhaps it's just me but I was amazed at the reaction of the crowd when Jack kicked the Coleman goal
We were still behind, 2 goals for memory and sorry but I just couldn't get excited about that goal.
For me the win was the most important thing and we didn't get it
But congrats Jack
BTW I reckon if you asked him jack would have preferred a win rather than the Coleman
no not just you, me too.
in all fairness though it was a lot of kids just happy to win something
:thumbsup
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A small victory would of covered over our ineptness on the day.
Yes I wanted to win but Jack was easily the highlight if we couldn't of put that rabble away by at least 10 goals.
First option was to continually look sideways then back instead of backing ourselves to cream this mob, which "top" sides would try and do! Reminded me of Wallace circle work! Was quite horrible to watch!
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2 time Coleman medallist is a great achievement well done Jack.
:gotigers
Clubs probably working on the Jack memorabilia as we speak lol :lol
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/assets/shopdesq/products/images/S2026%20Coleman%20Medal%20400.jpg)
(https://shopdesq.imgstg.com/index.cfm?fuseaction-product&productid=28683&orgid=1751&utm_source=web&utm_medium=cycler&utm_campaign=colemancycler)
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Lack of depth cost us the match. The top sides have better depth. Simple as that.
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Malcolm Blight will be presenting Jack his Coleman medal on Grand Final day.
Tony Jewell will be presenting the Jock McHale medal to the winning coach.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/malcolm-blight-dean-kemp-and-tony-jewell-to-present-medals-at-the-afl-grand-final/story-e6frf9jf-1226464553178
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Trade the spud. :P
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Dont know why we have to put with watching him go around
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Dont know why we have to put with watching him go around
Go around where :lol
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VIDEO: Riewoldt accepts Roach Medal
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/147720/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
Riewoldt shares goal success
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 14 Sep, 2012
“To win awards like the Michael Roach and Coleman medals is something that I truly am really proud of, but I’ve got over the fact now that they’re individual awards,” Riewoldt said.
“I do play full forward for the Richmond Football Club, so I’m going to try and kick as many goals as possible, but all I’m really doing is finishing off the hard work of my team-mates up the field.”
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/147720/default.aspx
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
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Everybody relax pleez
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This Kid is a stuffing gun :cheers
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Rooboyrev.
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“To win awards like the Michael Roach and Coleman medals is something that I truly am really proud of, but I’ve got over the fact now that they’re individual awards,” Riewoldt said.
“I do play full forward for the Richmond Football Club, so I’m going to try and kick as many goals as possible, but all I’m really doing is finishing off the hard work of my team-mates up the field.”
What a crock of poo
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exactly
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seriously,who wrote that?
Preposterous
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Lol welcome to your 30s you effing clams, starting to sound like your grandfathers for fu(ks sake.
Go back to the Chevron
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Settle....Beiber-Gen!
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Settle....Beiber-Gen!
Settle Spongebob Backstreet :-*
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Settle....Beiber-Gen!
Settle Spongebob Backstreet :-*
Don't have a cow man!
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
Err, No :-\
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
Richo has won as many premierships as all the other Tigers since 1981. What has winning a flag got to do with being a selfish wank?
Richo was a champ. He didn't need to win a coleman or a flag to prove that
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
Richo has won as many premierships as all the other Tigers since 1981. What has winning a flag got to do with being a selfish wank?
Richo was a champ. He didn't need to win a coleman or a flag to prove that
I love jack but I love this last comment more.
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
Richo has won as many premierships as all the other Tigers since 1981. What has winning a flag got to do with being a selfish wank?
Richo was a champ. He didn't need to win a coleman or a flag to prove that
lol and richo never played selfish hey lmao,
yes richo was a champ, but was as selfish as jack, all good fwds are selfish, even lil men like hungry was selfish
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I love you Jack but seriously cut the BS and just be yourself.
Don't thank your team mates. Take the glory. Be the star that you can be and want to be.
Embrace it because you're ferkin good!!
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what an absolute wanker. Did Richo ever sound like such a knob?
did richo ever win a premiership medal????
Richo has won as many premierships as all the other Tigers since 1981. What has winning a flag got to do with being a selfish wank?
Richo was a champ. He didn't need to win a coleman or a flag to prove that
lol and richo never played selfish hey lmao,
yes richo was a champ, but was as selfish as jack, all good fwds are selfish, even lil men like hungry was selfish
No he wasn't. The only selfish thing about Richo was the fact he couldn't share a forward line very well. He lead everywhere and crashed into teammates. But that was his coaches fault for not playing him on the wing earlier. Had we done that then we could have Schulz and Riewoldt as our two gun KPF's right now.
It's funny when you have actually known people and then you hear what they say in the media :rollin
LMAO at Jack's interview with Ling about the coleman before the last game. As if he was actually going to say what he was really thinking. "Yeah, I'm going to make it look like I'm doing the team thing. Brett O'Hanlon will probably be in a great spot with no one near him at some stage. I will take a while...but eventually I'll look in his direction to make it seem like I was thinking about passing it to him. But really, all I care about is the coleman today. cheers lingy"
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Richo is the man but seriously Jack isnt anywhere near him in the tantrum displays
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True but Jack isn't half the player. Can't spit the dummy like Cho unless you can play like Cho
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reckon JR gets a bad rap from some.
looking forward to get this forward
line sorted so the bloke can shine.
great football brain on the field. :thumbsup
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quit it davey, Jacks a star and thats a fact jack anyone who can win a coleman on one leg, I mean 5 pre season ops, 2 weeks training , wham bam ty mam,,, whoa thats something...richo was far from perfect by the way :shh
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And Jack on Before the Game tonight.
We're gonna lose this weekend.
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And Jack on Before the Game tonight.
We're gonna lose this weekend.
Where is he
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And Jack on Before the Game tonight.
We're gonna lose this weekend.
Where is he
Over there.
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And Jack on Before the Game tonight.
We're gonna lose this weekend.
Where is he
Over there.
All I see is Fluke Power
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Jack will be on Ch 10's Before the Game tonight. He hasn't been on yet.
Edit: I didn't see this mentioned in the footy show thread so I merged it here.
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Mick said it at the start of the show :banghead
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reckon JR gets a bad rap from some.
looking forward to get this forward
line sorted so the bloke can shine.
great football brain on the field. :thumbsup
Totally agree Mr Dean.
Reckon the media focusses too much on over-exagerated behavioural issues at the expense of crediting his incredible football talents.
He didn't have a great season but was every bit of deserving AA as Tomahype was.
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Mick said it at the start of the show :banghead
Lehmo mentioned it on twitter.
lehmo @lehmo23
"8:30 ch10 #beforethegame - Luke Power, Michael Osbourne, Jude Bolton, Jack Riewoldt (loses it) and KB #getonboard"
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Mick said it at the start of the show :banghead
Lehmo mentioned it on twitter.
lehmo @lehmo23
"8:30 ch10 #beforethegame - Luke Power, Michael Osbourne, Jude Bolton, Jack Riewoldt (loses it) and KB #getonboard"
It was a cameo
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I am disappoint.
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Jack will be on Ch 10's Before the Game tonight. He hasn't been on yet.
Edit: I didn't see this mentioned in the footy show thread so I merged it here.
Was on a skit at 8,48pm
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Jack will be on Ch 10's Before the Game tonight. He hasn't been on yet.
Edit: I didn't see this mentioned in the footy show thread so I merged it here.
Was on a skit at 8,48pm
I missed the first 25 mins or so. Can I blame a family member for telling me wrong :wallywink.
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Thought the "Snickers" KB All Australian apology skit was pretty good too ;D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3xdIBoCcAEIoAQ.jpg)
If you have an #AFLGF BBQ check out the MFB's safety tips online, or give @JackRiewoldt08 a call if things go awry?
https://twitter.com/triplemfooty/status/251178071678414848/photo/1
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que smart behind comment from the Coach about Jack applying more defensive pressure on that bbq than he did on opposition defenders all year.
;D
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at least he didn't just stand there and point at it
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Weak prick put more effort into putting that fire out than he did in any game that mattered this year ::)
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Weak prick put more effort into putting that fire out than he did in any game that mattered this year ::)
>:(
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;D
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at least he didn't just stand there and point at it
:lol
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at least he didn't just stand there and point at it
He did until he got told to pull his head in ;D ;)
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Effn BBQ he should be out kicking goals FFS
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Look at it closely lads, Jacks Actualy trying to put out Edwards after a six goal 3rd quarter burst against Collingwood to seal us next years prelim :shh
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JR8 on Before the Game tonight :clapping
Again. Apparently ...
Look at it closely lads, Jacks Actualy trying to put out Edwards after a six goal 3rd quarter burst against Collingwood to seal us next years prelim :shh
:lol :lol :lol
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Jack on Before the Game tonight:
* A maturity issue for us (re: taking the next step). A couple of guys to come in and help with that plus development of the younger guys within the group. We're not too far away.
* Jack said he has had a two shoulder ops and an ankle scope. Nothing too serious. Shouldn't be too far away from starting preseason on time.
* We've had 3 weeks off already. He would love to still be playing now. All the AFL ads gets you pumped up to be playing now. Hopefully September isn't too far away for us.
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Jack on Before the Game tonight:
* A maturity issue for us (re: taking the next step). A couple of guys to come in and help with that plus development of the younger guys within the group. We're not too far away.
* Jack said he has had a two shoulder ops and an ankle scope. Nothing too serious. Shouldn't be too far away from starting preseason on time.
* We've had 3 weeks off already. He would love to still be playing now. All the AFL ads gets you pumped up to be playing now. Hopefully September isn't too far away for us.
So he'll have another restricted Pre season? Fml
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Had surgery just the other day
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Had surgery just the other day
And??? How did it go.
For the life of me I still can't understand why they didn't park him up earlier and get him sorted.. :huh
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Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
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This guy will never have a full Pre season. Trade him while we can
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Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
Agree, how the eff is he is going to kick a 150 goal season resting all the time.
If he wins another Coleman kicking 70 or so goals I'm gunna be peeed.
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Should have gone after Dawes and traded JR8 for picks :banghead
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Lazy bastard
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Jack turned 24 during the week btw. Two Colemans already and still has most of his prime years still ahead of him :yep. Give him some decent tall support (not dud McGuane types ::) ) and he'll be fine.
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
Jack tweeted the other day that he had spent his birthday having an op in Hobart. Didn't say what it was for and when asked didn't answer ;D
Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
BTW he isn't training because like a numbers of other players he not due back for another couple of weeks. The long you've been in the system the long the break you get ;D
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
Jack tweeted the other day that he had spent his birthday having an op in Hobart. Didn't say what it was for and when asked didn't answer ;D
Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
BTW he isn't training because like a numbers of other players he not due back for another couple of weeks. The long you've been in the system the long the break you get ;D
Glad to hear he went with a Tasmanian surgeon :thumbsup :thumbsup Will be Cherry ripe for round 1 :clapping :clapping
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Jack turned 24 during the week btw. Two Colemans already and still has most of his prime years still ahead of him :yep. Give him some decent tall support (not dud McGuane types ::) ) and he'll be fine.
That's spot on. No mcguane types or miller types or A.edwards types.
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
Jack tweeted the other day that he had spent his birthday having an op in Hobart. Didn't say what it was for and when asked didn't answer ;D
Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
BTW he isn't training because like a numbers of other players he not due back for another couple of weeks. The long you've been in the system the long the break you get ;D
Glad to hear he went with a Tasmanian surgeon :thumbsup :thumbsup Will be Cherry ripe for round 1 :clapping :clapping
The operation was done in a barn using a 100 year old rusty knife and no anasthetic
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
Jack tweeted the other day that he had spent his birthday having an op in Hobart. Didn't say what it was for and when asked didn't answer ;D
Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
BTW he isn't training because like a numbers of other players he not due back for another couple of weeks. The long you've been in the system the long the break you get ;D
Glad to hear he went with a Tasmanian surgeon :thumbsup :thumbsup Will be Cherry ripe for round 1 :clapping :clapping
The operation was done in a barn using a 100 year old rusty knife and no anasthetic
One tough lad is our Jack ;)
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Had surgery just the other day
what surgery?
Jack tweeted the other day that he had spent his birthday having an op in Hobart. Didn't say what it was for and when asked didn't answer ;D
Had surgery just the other day
Slackarse. Why isn't he training instead?
BTW he isn't training because like a numbers of other players he not due back for another couple of weeks. The long you've been in the system the long the break you get ;D
Glad to hear he went with a Tasmanian surgeon :thumbsup :thumbsup Will be Cherry ripe for round 1 :clapping :clapping
The operation was done in a barn using a 100 year old rusty knife and no anasthetic
And all during that he was pointing at the surgeon telling him what to do with that rusty knife
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:lol
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I can't believe people support this guy! I mean, he won a Coleman but he should have kicked 139390484905834908502349859023485034 goals last year. He's not doing his job FFS
stuffing good thread this GET AROUND IT
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Can't believe you even bothered to start a thread about this loser.
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Can't believe you even bothered to start a thread about this loser.
Yeah he's not worth it!
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Fail thread
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I can't believe they cut Post and Gus and left him on the list.
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I can't believe they cut Post and Gus and left him on the list.
Finally someone who watches the games.
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where you been davey? I was starting to think you had eloped with '65.
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where you been davey? I was starting to think you had eloped with '65.
Been on a trip. Wasn't sure if I was coming back but some people on here annoy the stuff out of me, so I decided to come back and annoy the stuff out of them.
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:lol
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And Coachy Boy is back with his unique blend of humor, bitterness, favoritism and insight! :bow
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And pretty stuffing unhappy with the merge of threads too. That thread was meant for people who can't have a serious discussion about the way Jack plays at times. This one should be for people who can.
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Lazy bastard
Ironic post.
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Jack was on Ch 7 news tonight showing off the greyhound he's racing. Compared it to Lids - fast, lean and muscly.
In another interview yesterday IIRC played on 3aw's hourly news (I can't find the audio link), Jack mentioned he has had something like 15 ops over the last 12 months or so and that it affected preseason (and thus the season) as you're thinking about the ops and recovering from them. Hopefully once Jack gets back into full training after his latest niggle he gets a good run through the preseason which then should have him in good shape for the season proper.
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flying on the track :shh
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flying on the track :shh
In the rehab group :-\ ;D
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Still hasn't joined the main group after hip surgery. Will he ever have a full Pre season ?!?!?!
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Still hasn't joined the main group after hip surgery. Will he ever have a full Pre season ?!?!?!
Not the way he is being managed during the year he won't, will be crucified for it too.
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Still hasn't joined the main group after hip surgery. Will he ever have a full Pre season ?!?!?!
Not the way he is being managed during the year he won't, will be crucified for it too.
Effn oath, I will start off already on the crucification as the slob isnt going to kick 150 this year like he should
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Still hasn't joined the main group after hip surgery. Will he ever have a full Pre season ?!?!?!
Not the way he is being managed during the year he won't, will be crucified for it too.
Effn oath, I will start off already on the crucification as the slob isnt going to kick 150 this year like he should
. :whistle ::)
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Jack doesn't need a full pre-season. It's a handicap imposed by the AFL to stop Jack from dominating :shh
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Jack high, but aiming higher
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Friday, December 28, 2012
Star Richmond spearhead, Jack Riewoldt, by his own admission, was below his best for a fair portion of the 2012 season.
Yet, the fact he was able to kick more than 50 goals for the third consecutive season, win his third Michael Roach Medal in-a-row, as the Club’s leading goalkicker for the year, and a second Coleman Medal for heading the competition’s goalkicking table, at the end of the home-and-away season, says plenty about his capability as a full-forward at the game’s highest level.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-28/jack-high-but-aiming-higher
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Jack has injured himself while on holidays ....
He stubbed his toe and cut it :wallywink
@JackRiewoldt08 - "Just sustained a true Australian injury! #stubbedtoe #carnage #havianas #bloodbath"
https://twitter.com/JackRiewoldt08
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Jack has injured himself while on holidays ....
He stubbed his toe and cut it :wallywink
@JackRiewoldt08 - "Just sustained a true Australian injury! #stubbedtoe #carnage #havianas #bloodbath"
https://twitter.com/JackRiewoldt08
That should teach him
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Bloody RFC medical staff no idea, why wasnt he in cotton wool FFS
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Bloody RFC medical staff no idea, why wasnt he in cotton wool FFS
We're not going to make the finals so I hope they put him on ice now ffs :banghead
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::)
I think you owe me an apology
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GO JACK, great player!
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Bloody RFC medical staff no idea, why wasnt he in cotton wool FFS
We're not going to make the finals so I hope they put him on ice now ffs :banghead
Good call Dwaino, in fact we arent going to make finals for at least three years so lets rest him up til then
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GO JACK! Another Coleman year mate.... :clapping
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Won't be half the player Jeremy Cameron already is
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Very important player to our team is Jack, one of the best forwards in the comp... :thumbsup
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Won't be half the player Jeremy Cameron already is
Ah chucky, I was happy to let sleeping dogs lie but surely you dont think I'll allow your attempt to distort the lines of reality of when you called out Jeremy Cameron as a lazy dud? ;D All bc you had a sook when I said in the GWS game he presented and performed better than Jack Reiwoldt.
You nobchomper ;D
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You got me wrong I am with you after reading an article on Cameron on the AFL site, I am hoping we do a straight swap Riewoldt for Cameron.
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:cheers
You got me wrong I am with you after reading an article on Cameron on the AFL site, I am hoping we do a straight swap Riewoldt for Cameron.
:whistle
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Bloody RFC medical staff no idea, why wasnt he in cotton wool FFS
Camera,s aren,t allowed in our medical room.
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Jack is equal third favourite for the Coleman....
Lance Franklin 3.25
Taylor Walker 5.50
Jack Riewoldt 6.00
Matthew Pavlich 6.00
Source: Sportsbet.com.au.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/punters-back-essendon-for-2013-premiership/story-e6frf9jf-1226547666310)
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Someone at the tab doesn't rate Richmond or our footballers
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Someone at the tab doesn't rate Richmond or our footballers
Good. Wouldn't want it any other way.
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hmm nasty things stubbed toes. could be season ending!!!!!!
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Lol i would be worried if it happened to a certain Fremantle ruckman though
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Tiger Jack excited for season to come around
By Adam McNicol
afl.com.au
Saturday, January 26, 2013
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he is not worried by the amount of expectation surrounding the club's campaign this year.
Having bolstered their list with mature-age recruits Troy Chaplin and Chris Knights, the Tigers are being widely tipped to make the finals for only the third time since 1982.
"We're just excited," Riewoldt told AFL.com.au during an appearance at the Cadbury Super 9s at Skoda Stadium in western Sydney on Saturday.
"We've had some great additions to our football club, and the football staff off-field has done an excellent job to get those players along.
"I'm excited for the NAB Cup, which is coming up soon, but more importantly round one against Carlton in late March, which is when it all gets started.
"I think we can put a good season together this year and hopefully show our fans what we're made of, and get a few wins for them, too."
Richmond defeated grand finalists the Sydney Swans and Hawthorn last year, yet the Tigers finished 12th after suffering a number of narrow defeats in the second half of the season.
The most gut-wrenching of those losses came against Gold Coast in Cairns, when Suns star Karmichael Hunt broke the Tigers' hearts by kicking the winning goal after the siren.
Nevertheless, Riewoldt prefers to toe the party line when asked about Richmond's travails at Cazaly's Stadium, a venue where the club has played two home games and lost both of them to the Suns.
"We are happy with the partnership we've got with Cairns," Riewoldt said.
"Obviously it's been great for our football club to go up to Far North Queensland and grow our club and develop the culture of our club up there.
"We'll be up there again this year and hopefully we can break the hoodoo and beat [the] Suns.
"I think we're the only [team] to not have won against them and it's something that we want to rectify.
"It's another challenge that we're looking forward to and hopefully the youth of our group and the guys that we've added can make sure we're able to do that."
The Tigers begin their NAB Cup campaign with round one matches against North Melbourne and Melbourne at Etihad Stadium on February 22.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-01-26/riewoldts-no-stress-approach
Tiger Jack excited for season to come around
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Good to see Chuckie has Jack on his media monitors.
Contrite, party liner that boy, whoah
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Williams expects Riewoldt to return to full training in the next week.
“He’s ready to go now, he just has to pass a few little medical tests to make sure he’s strengths up, and he’ll be right back into full training. And just knowing Jack, he’s dying to get back into it,” Williams told Roar Vision.
“He looks really fit, he’s starting to build his strength as well, which is exciting. He’s a very smart player, which is important for us.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-01-29/riewoldt-and-vickery-focus-on-fitness
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Tiger Jack pumped for 2013 season
By richmondfc.com.au
Thursday, February 14, 2013
Star Richmond spearhead and dual Coleman Medallist, Jack Riewoldt, is not concerned with the amount of expectation surrounding the Club’s 2013 campaign.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-14/tiger-jack-pumped-for-2013-season
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I like Jack Riewoldt
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A man with integrity and class. The Strawberry Blonde's answer to Matthew Lloyd
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Good to see Jack's leap is back and he's going for his speckies. Hopefully a sign he is injury/niggle free heading into the season.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/02/15/275473.jpg) (http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/563360_10151443782873276_922170914_n.jpg)
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I have never noticed Jack's biceps before.
Amazing the difference a professional fitness department can make in one pre-season.
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i never realised the whole dept changed
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Well the Elite Performance Manager (Burge for Hornsby) and the Rehab and Conditioning coach (Meehan for Condon) were both changed and I think that changes most of the direction or philosophy of the department. Players have mentioned it in interviews.
I think that all good, new, departmental managers will re-invigorate and re-focus their staff.
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True, but ultimately the fitness/conditioning staff work to the whims of the coaching staff.
if the coaches, or more specifically the coach, want fleet footed lightweights because thats how they perceive the game to be heading, then thats what the conditioning staff will strive for.
Theres been an obvious emphasis on bigger bodies since Hardwick took over, both in recruits and weight gains made by some of the existing players
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I've noticed Jack's biceps before.
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Who was playing on him in the intra club?
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Got to love Jack's footy smarts :thumbsup
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-02-23/jack-no-look-to-edwards
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Gun.
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So jack was Captain last night, what did we think of his game and should he even be in the leadership group
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So jack was Captain last night, what did we think of his game and should he even be in the leadership group
Have to say I didn't quite understand the logic in the forward set up last night
With Vickery starting deep, Jack plonked between the goal square and 50m arc and then having a small lining up at CHF.
Didn't think it worked
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Can Jack have a shot at goal now and then. That is what an FF does. That's how he won a couple of Colemans. Can he also leave the petulance at home and channel it in getting the footy.
Scragging is not his game he gets beaten and frustrated. Should lead and use his pace and leap. That is what makes him effective.
Get that right and do that every week and he'll show more leadership and alot more for the team and himself when it really counts.
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Can Jack have a shot at goal now and then. That is what an FF does. That's how he won a couple of Colemans. Can he also leave the petulance at home and channel it in getting the footy.
Scragging is not his game he gets beaten and frustrated. Should lead and use his pace and leap. That is what makes him effective.
Get that right and do that every week and he'll show more leadership and alot more for the team and himself when it really counts.
Spot on Tucker
When he actually ran forward on a lead he got the ball but why he passing off when he was 40 metres out from goal beggars belief
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So jack was Captain last night, what did we think of his game and should he even be in the leadership group
Hmm, the word dumb comes to mind.
you don't pass off in the forward line when the pass itself is a lower percentage than taking a shot for goal.
That 50 he gave away :banghead he knew straight away the free was against him, yet he hung on to the ball and then carried on like he didnt know the free had been paid against him when the ump gave 50. :banghead
displayed his petulance in the first half when things didnt go his way.
He really needs to get his head right to fulfill his obvious talent and perhaps he needs to concentrate on his own game rather than others.
To his credit he did lift his head and show a bit in the second half, but gee he is frustrating at times
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I tend to think he was overplaying being "captain" and doing the team thing probably wasn't to fussed with it being a practice match also trying to bring others into the game.
I've got a feeling Jack will have his best year this season. Last week he looked very sharp for so early in the season and his assists and second efforts were a stand out.
He looks extremely fit and has had a full preseason.
If they can get the forward structure right before round 1 (essential), then there's no reason why he won't win the Coleman again.
All Australian year from him this year. :thumbsup
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So jack was Captain last night, what did we think of his game and should he even be in the leadership group
Hmm, the word dumb comes to mind.
you don't pass off in the forward line when the pass itself is a lower percentage than taking a shot for goal.
That 50 he gave away :banghead he knew straight away the free was against him, yet he hung on to the ball and then carried on like he didnt know the free had been paid against him when the ump gave 50. :banghead
displayed his petulance in the first half when things didnt go his way.
He really needs to get his head right to fulfill his obvious talent and perhaps he needs to concentrate on his own game rather than others.
To his credit he did lift his head and show a bit in the second half, but gee he is frustrating at times
Agree, understand it was only a practice match but very disappointing, when Choco finsihes with Dusty swing him onto Jack
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Agree, understand it was only a practice match but very disappointing, when Choco finsihes with Dusty swing him onto Jack
Based on 3qtr time yestyerday I think Choco might be targeting Jake King next :rollin
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Can Jack have a shot at goal now and then. That is what an FF does. That's how he won a couple of Colemans. Can he also leave the petulance at home and channel it in getting the footy.
Scragging is not his game he gets beaten and frustrated. Should lead and use his pace and leap. That is what makes him effective.
Get that right and do that every week and he'll show more leadership and alot more for the team and himself when it really counts.
+1
In Week 1 he was moving about. Still tried to go the speccie a couple of times too many but for the most he was leading and looked up and about. Against the Bombers though it was back to that bad habit of trying to wrestle with the full back and Carlisle won hands down. Dimma was smart to move him out to CHF during the second half to force Jack to get on his bike.
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This also pees me off. But without trying to find excuses for Jack (he does have some bad habits), could this getting caught scragging too often have something to do with team structures. ie. instructions to stay close to goal and not move too far up the ground?
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Jack is hardly a prude but was he really captain on the weekend ;D
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It just wasn't Jack's day ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEY3WX_CAAA-YC4.jpg:large)
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No such excuse
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Free kick to Big Vick – chopping the arms
was it paid?
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Free kick to Big Vick – chopping the arms
was it paid?
Think it was
But then again maybe not
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
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3, 50 m penalties ?
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3, 50 m penalties ?
Had to give them a chance some how :shh
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3, 50 m penalties ?
One wasn't him it was King
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Ah...little Far King
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns. Well thats what it appeared anyway
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns. Well thats what it appeared anyway
Wut
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns. Well thats what it appeared anyway
Wut
You didnt notice him running into goal and instead of having a shot, which he normally would, he would pass it off
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns. Well thats what it appeared anyway
Wut
You didnt notice him running into goal and instead of having a shot, which he normally would, he would pass it off
Yeah I noticed that. Your quote was "i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns" I honestly couldn't fathom our brain trust telling him not to kick for goal. Don't worry about Jacky though, he did all of that on purpose to make a point to the coaches. Now they'll tell him not to worry about passing whenever he is in range. Not that he would in the season proper anyway. Smart boy is our Jack
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It doesn't look good when Jack tries the things he did on Saturday, but in the regular season he'd kick them for himself.
He would have had 3 or 4 goals against the Bumbers if he'd gone for goal instead of being unselfish.
i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns. Well thats what it appeared anyway
Wut
You didnt notice him running into goal and instead of having a shot, which he normally would, he would pass it off
Yeah I noticed that. Your quote was "i was of the belief that Jack was told not to go for goal but to work on certain things. Such as bodying and running patterns" I honestly couldn't fathom our brain trust telling him not to kick for goal. Don't worry about Jacky though, he did all of that on purpose to make a point to the coaches. Now they'll tell him not to worry about passing whenever he is in range. Not that he would in the season proper anyway. Smart boy is our Jack
I like Jack
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VIDEO: Jack's after the siren winning goal :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4kahV7REp4
And earlier Jack going over the fence ...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-03-09/jumping-jack-topples-over
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That over the fence should have been a free. Was pushed in the back and over he went
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That over the fence should have been a free. Was pushed in the back and over he went
Once again I am glad we won and can complain about the umpiring, the Dawks were so much better treated by the umps especially how they would drop the ball or get spun 360 without frees.
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That over the fence should have been a free. Was pushed in the back and over he went
Once again I am glad we won and can complain about the umpiring, the Dawks were so much better treated by the umps especially how they would drop the ball or get spun 360 without frees.
It was bloody inconsistent again and we seemed to get the worse end of it. One that springs to mind was right near the end when Schoenmakers (I think) did some good work in defence but then got tackled and spun 360 before dishing off a handball. I reckon the 360 rule interpretation has to be the simplest one on the paddock to adjudicate but the maggots seem to get that wrong with astonishing degrees of difference. Cue C. Judd.
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That over the fence should have been a free. Was pushed in the back and over he went
Best place for Jack is on the other side of the fence.
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I was actually surprised by how well Jack spoke after the game. Really liked how he made a point of praising Newy's game and emphasizing his standing at the club.
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Dissapointed I didn't see at least one finger point in this interview
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Dissapointed I didn't see at least one finger point in this interview
Dissapointed he didn't say that it was a must win too! ;D
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Riewoldt’s burning team ambition
By richmondfc.com.au
5:25pm AEDT Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Jack said - “So, my goals this year are purely based around improving my teammates. Firstly, playing my role for the side, which obviously is to kick goals and be involved in goals. That’s my No. 1 goal. But then it’s how can I improve? How can I become a better leader to make the Richmond Football Club better."
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-27/riewoldts-burning-team-ambition-
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Just kick the stuffing goals mate and worry about getting a decent haircut
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Damian Barrett on the AFL site ....
"If the Tigers are to make the final eight this season then Jack Riewoldt needs to make it more about him. Be selfish, Jack. Don't pass to teammates."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-29/sliding-doors
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I thought Jack was very good last night
the little 1%ers he did off the ball were terrific
that block he put on in the square to allow Vickery to mark was the perfect example (2nd qtr)
That run in the final qtr when he kicked it along the ground and then the 2nd effort were excellent
As for Damien Barrett - stick to bins you twit
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Thought Jack played the decoy well last night.
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I thought Jack was very good last night
the little 1%ers he did off the ball were terrific
that block he put on in the square to allow Vickery to mark was the perfect example (2nd qtr)
That run in the final qtr when he kicked it along the ground and then the 2nd effort were excellent
As for Damien Barrett - stick to bins you twit
100% correct :thumbsup
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Damian Barrett on the AFL site ....
"If the Tigers are to make the final eight this season then Jack Riewoldt needs to make it more about him. Be selfish, Jack. Don't pass to teammates."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-29/sliding-doors
What a knob jockey Barrett is. Tells Jack to be more selfish so we can make the 8 and that night Jack plays unselfish and we get the Win over the Scum. Stick to picking through bin scraps. :shh
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Damian Barrett= Vermin, snot and puss
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Damian Barrett= Vermin, snot and puss
Generous.
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Riewoldt should go forward: Frawley
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Friday, April 5, 2013
Danny Frawley says Jack Riewoldt should play deep forward against St Kilda
RICHMOND star Jack Riewoldt should return to a deep forward role at the MCG on Friday night, Danny Frawley says, as the Tigers look to expose an undersized St Kilda backline.
Riewoldt went goalless against Carlton in round one but was praised by coach Damien Hardwick for pushing up the ground and playing a selfless team role in "one of his best games for 12 months".
The 2012 Coleman medallist has an outstanding recent record against St Kilda, with bags of eight, seven and six goals in three of his last four games, and the Saints lack a strong match-up for the 195cm goalkicker.
Frawley, who captained St Kilda for a club record 177 games, said James Gwilt, who will miss with a knee injury, would have been the Saints' best match-up for Riewoldt.
St Kilda has regained All Australian defenders Sam Fisher (foot) and Sean Dempster (hamstring) from injury, but Frawley said there was still a clear opportunity for the Tigers to stretch their opponents in the backline.
"I'd be very surprised if Riewoldt doesn't play deeper this week," Frawley told AFL.com.au.
"The situation at St Kilda, while they're all good, competent defenders, there's no real standout who's going to stand up and play in a key post.
"A lot is going to depend on team defence and the supply coming in. That'll be pretty important."
Frawley said Gwilt (188cm) and Jason Blake (189cm) were clearly part of the Saints' best backline, but the club needed to add a power defender who could be pencilled in every week to line up on the opposition's No.1 forward.
Should he remain out of contract, West Coast key defender Mitch Brown shapes as a target at the end of this season after the Saints fell short in their bid to secure him during last year's NAB AFL Exchange Period.
"A good key defender is a luxury like a really good Australian wicketkeeper," Frawley said.
"They're there for 10-12 years and you don't have to worry about them too much, but you sure miss them when they're not there.
"That's been the case with St Kilda since they lost not only Max Hudghton but also Zac Dawson.
"It'll be a cause of frustration for Scotty Watters and it's a tough one where he's going to have to mix and match every week and look at who is suited to who."
Saints forward Rhys Stanley (200cm) has shifted back and is likely to match up on Ty Vickery, who was influential with three goals and nine marks against Carlton in round one.
"Stanley would have him for speed, but Vickery might have a bit more class in the air, so it'll be a good duel," Frawley said.
Tom Simpkin (191cm), who played 19 games last season but was a late withdrawal against Gold Coast in round one, is the Saints' other tall option in defence.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-05/go-deep-jack-frawley
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Shoot him too
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He will IMO
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AFL reverse troll article.
Why would Danny Frawley be concerned about Richmond's forward structure when we are playing his beloved Saints?
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AFL reverse troll article.
Why would Danny Frawley be concerned about Richmond's forward structure when we are playing his beloved Saints?
"We can't make the finals but we can definitely shape them"
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"we are cherry ripe"
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"I take responsibility for the on-field and the buck always stops with the senior coach. It was always going to be a big year for the Richmond footy club and probably Danny Frawley as the senior coach."
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"We're all wiser in hindsight. In 2002, as a young coach you look at it and think you're a game off the grand final. We were probably further away than we thought."
AFL "commentator"
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LOL turns out he was right :wallywink
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Jack played both high on the 50 and closer to goal. When he's moving about and just going for the ball like he did last night rather than trying to wrestle with his direct opponent he is at his best. He owns the Saints - kicked 6, 7, 8 & 7 in his last 4 games against them.
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Jack played both high on the 50 and closer to goal. When he's moving about and just going for the ball like he did last night rather than trying to wrestle with his direct opponent he is at his best. He owns the Saints - kicked 6, 7, 8 & 7 in his last 4 games against them.
Not sure thats right MT, remember the concussion game ?
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Jack played both high on the 50 and closer to goal. When he's moving about and just going for the ball like he did last night rather than trying to wrestle with his direct opponent he is at his best. He owns the Saints - kicked 6, 7, 8 & 7 in his last 4 games against them.
Not sure thats right MT, remember the concussion game ?
Have to throw a zero in there somewhere don't we
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Jack played both high on the 50 and closer to goal. When he's moving about and just going for the ball like he did last night rather than trying to wrestle with his direct opponent he is at his best. He owns the Saints - kicked 6, 7, 8 & 7 in his last 4 games against them.
Agree with that MT, if he keeps playing this type of role and we get cameos from Ty and mcGuane keeping opposition defenders honest, Jack will kick plenty most weeks. In space can exploit any defender
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Leigh Matthews on 3aw this arvo said it was the worst 7 goal game he's seen :huh3.
Lloyd and Richo gave Jack BOG as kicking 7 goals in the modern game is rare and in the end he was the difference between the teams. Lloyd said we would've lost if Jack didn't play.
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Leigh Matthews on 3aw this arvo said it was the worst 7 goal games he's seen :huh3.
Matthews has a hate on for us like McClure has.
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my suspicion is he was taking the pee. on the telly last night he was talking about how hardwick said last weeks game was one of jacks best, even though he didnt kick a goal. he made a joke late in the telecast about how hardwick wouldnt have been happy with jack kicking so many goals.
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Thinking after the game that Jack really is being short changed by our delivery.
He's kicked seven (and missed a couple of easy ones like the first shot) and I kept thinking he could easily have got ten.
If you look at the replay (I'm still waiting for the AFL site one to come up) I think he only got one goal delivered to him on a platter and that was via a handpass when he was in the clear running into goal. The rest were not due to great delivery but more freakish skills on Jacks' part, particularly the marks which he was in the worst position to claim.
When you compare the delivery to Jack with that of other key forwards, like Buddy or Pavlich, his raw talent stands out.
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Leigh Matthews on 3aw this arvo said it was the worst 7 goal games he's seen :huh3.
Matthews has a hate on for us like McClure has.
Seems im somewhat vindicated for calling him unmentionable names during his playing career for his cowardly behind the play thuggery
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AUDIO: Jack on MMM
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/afl/news/jack-riewoldt-interview-on-triple-m-footy/
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VIDEO: Jack's 7 goals
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-08/round-2-jack-kicks-7
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Another 5 today takes Jack equal top in the goalkicking :thumbsup.
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Another Coleman coming up :shh
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Tried all day, didn't see a lot of the ball , LMAO at his centre clearance
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Jack the rover :rollin ;D
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Excellent effort in the guts.
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Jack the rover :rollin ;D
Can I do a Tiga? :rollin
Although I get your point I think Jack could make a good rover :shh
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Terrible game by Jackie boy last night.
He's a leader, a reigning Coleman medalist and I've always supported him but last night was very disappointing for mine.
2 marks, no real leadership from him at all and he sooked all night.
Got his pants pulled down did Jack.
Hope he redeems himself next week.
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I thought he was ineffective but didnt think he was terrible or bad per se. He tried hard just got pantsed by the best backman going around and lets face it for the 2nd and 3rd qrts there were 13 inside 50's for us. No fwd is going to do anything with those numbers
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Didn't see him sooking too much although he was probably entitled to with Dawson bearhugging him all night
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Didn't see him sooking too much although he was probably entitled to with Dawson bearhugging him all night
Dawson didnt take Jack
Jack got his pants pulled down by McPharlin who was close to BOG IMV
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The goal he got was from a free 50 metres away.
Yes it was there and and glad he got it but saying he got beaten by the best defender going around is no excuse. Could have certainly had more impact on the ground.
Game was not petulant IMHO just ineffectual.
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The goal he got was from a free 50 metres away.
Yes it was there and and glad he got it but saying he got beaten by the best defender going around is no excuse. Could have certainly had more impact on the ground.
Game was not petulant IMHO just ineffectual.
Agree Tucker, he is supposed to be one of the leading Key Forwards in the competition - needs to show it in games like last night.
So much bombing into F50 in the last quarter, where was the leading into space by Jack?
Even TV was running hard up to the wings in the final q trying to create an option
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Send him to GWS for Pick 1[Boyd] and Tyson.
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Interesting Jack was on Channel 7 last night on Sat Night Footy at Etihad before the Dogs Cats Clash.
Was asked if he was staying around to watch the game as you have Cats next week.
He said no, going to have dinner with my girlfriend.
I would of thought he would have stayed and watched for next week seeing he was there.
Interesting by a professional footballer I would of thought'
Take you girl out for dinner another night I would of thought, seeing you were already at the venue
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Interesting Jack was on Channel 7 last night on Sat Night Footy at Etihad before the Dogs Cats Clash.
Was asked if he was staying around to watch the game as you have Cats next week.
He said no, going to have dinner with my girlfriend.
I would of thought he would have stayed and watched for next week seeing he was there.
Interesting by a professional footballer I would of thought'
Take you girl out for dinner another night I would of thought, seeing you were already at the venue
I know I would've stayed. That is a bit strange.
Maybe they get so much information and dissecting of the opposition during the week it doesn't matter if they stay or not.
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Why should he stay and watch his next opponent.He thinks he's above everyone at the club. :whistle
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Seeing he was there I would have stayed too.
However we can all be a little to pedantic when we want to find a fault in someone also. :shh
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interesting though that 3 other players were seen sitting up in level 3. ;)
Maybe there keen to learn :shh
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Possibly Jack and I agree with you and others, however in Jack's defence we do not know the circumstances and urgency of him making his appearance on 7 and then leaving with him giving the reason or excuse he is having dinner with his girlfriend.
Maybe just maybe if he had kicked 5 on Friday night we may not have been so critical.
Also some people may just recoup better away from footy especially after a loss like that.
It's only natural they are professionals and they eat sleep and skata footy all week. You need some relief at some stage. Maybe just maybe we can all cut him some slack on this one rather than looking for excuses. Ultimately he is entitled to see his girlfriend he was in Perth th night before. You all see your partners every day don't you? I know I do.
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Seeing he was there I would have stayed too.
However we can all be a little to pedantic when we want to find a fault in someone also. :shh
I'd just leave it at that.
We know why Jackstar posts on this forum, it'd be interesting to count the posts from rounds 1-3 vs 4 &5.
Lil Jackstar, asking the questions that no one else wants to hear the answers.
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:lol
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I thought he was ineffective but didnt think he was terrible or bad per se. He tried hard just got pantsed by the best backman going around and lets face it for the 2nd and 3rd qrts there were 13 inside 50's for us. No fwd is going to do anything with those numbers
gotta agree with this he just got toweled up by a player who regularly towels up forwards. he worked and tried damn hard imo but he wasnt good enough.
people talk up alex rance they should have a look at how mcpharlin goes about his business he was superb. his effort imo should have had him bog but hey kpps just dont get votes nowdays.
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Biggest troll effort of the month to Jackstar, what he does in his own time is his own business, footballers thes days spend more time than ever being a professional footballer and surely their family/friends are entitled to their time as well.
What about if it was a special date for them, what about if he had been promising a dinner for a while but hadn't been able to make it due to footy, what about if he just felt the need to roll the leg over and she was holding out based on a dinner date first.
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firstly Chuck :chuck
He was at the ground anyway ::)
Secondly I go to as many games as I can on a weekend
and its amazing what opposition players go to a game when there not playing
Thirdly its funny that you see lots of Geelong and Collingwood players at alot of games
Funny that they play finals in recent times .
They would be going to study the opposition and try and improve there game the following week.
Footy aint hard
Hope he enjoyed his dinner
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Seeing he was there I would have stayed too.
However we can all be a little to pedantic when we want to find a fault in someone also. :shh
I'd just leave it at that.
We know why Jackstar posts on this forum, it'd be interesting to count the posts from rounds 1-3 vs 4 &5.
Lil Jackstar, asking the questions that no one else wants to hear the answers.
So your happy with Riewoldts game on Friday night ?
Well I aint, move on goose !!
If you want to attack me , message me in future
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Jack was terrible last FRI, god help his opponent next saturday :shh
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Bo did you see much from elton yesterday in the magoos?
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I went to the theatre today Instead of watching the replay
Sorry about that :rollin
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what play did you see WP?
something gory like macbeth or maybe something more in tune with the RFC....a dog day afternoon?
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Honestly Jackstar, you can't tell me they won't watch video analysis of the game ad nauseum during the week? They pay others to watch the game and work on match ups. The players need some sort of life/ work balance.
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what play did you see WP?
something gory like macbeth or maybe something more in tune with the RFC....a dog day afternoon?
Driving Miss Daisy with the amazing James Earl Jones :thumbsup
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yep excellent choice..
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Honestly Jackstar, you can't tell me they won't watch video analysis of the game ad nauseum during the week? They pay others to watch the game and work on match ups. The players need some sort of life/ work balance.
Time has moved on with technology for most however some still haven't caught up
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Honestly Jackstar, you can't tell me they won't watch video analysis of the game ad nauseum during the week? They pay others to watch the game and work on match ups. The players need some sort of life/ work balance.
don't muddy the waters with common sense, FFS :banghead
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Seeing he was there I would have stayed too.
However we can all be a little to pedantic when we want to find a fault in someone also. :shh
I'd just leave it at that.
We know why Jackstar posts on this forum, it'd be interesting to count the posts from rounds 1-3 vs 4 &5.
Lil Jackstar, asking the questions that no one else wants to hear the answers.
So your happy with Riewoldts game on Friday night ?
Well I aint, move on goose !!
If you want to attack me , message me in future
Take your own advice, I'm off to enjoy a late night supper with the missus.
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Maybe jack should watch swallow at the end of the north game when they just got beat
Gathered the team in the middle of the park and gave them some words I assume of encouragement as he didn't seem angry at all.
Instead of acting like a primadonna at the end of a tight match why doesn't he do something proactive instead of acting like a biatch.
We need leaders at our club not spoilt little bunnies.
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Can confirm he went to dinner at Charcoal Charlie's in Northcote
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Maybe jack should watch swallow at the end of the north game when they just got beat
Gathered the team in the middle of the park and gave them some words I assume of encouragement as he didn't seem angry at all.
Instead of acting like a primadonna at the end of a tight match why doesn't he do something proactive instead of acting like a biatch.
We need leaders at our club not spoilt little bunnies.
Is that Jack's job now too? When did Cotch relinquish the captaincy?
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Maybe jack should watch swallow at the end of the north game when they just got beat
Gathered the team in the middle of the park and gave them some words I assume of encouragement as he didn't seem angry at all.
Instead of acting like a primadonna at the end of a tight match why doesn't he do something proactive instead of acting like a biatch.
We need leaders at our club not spoilt little bunnies.
Is that Jack's job now too? When did Cotch relinquish the captaincy?
I didnt see cotch yelling at his teammates like Jack did. Not for the first time either.
Like i said we need constructive leaders not spoilt little bunnies.
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I didnt see cotch yelling at his teammates like Jack did. Not for the first time either.
Like i said we need constructive leaders not spoilt little bunnies.
Dont' remember seeing Cotch call them into a huddle after the loss either daniel.
Didn't see any of our leaders direct players to flood back in the last 90 seconds
So do these rules regarding what a leader should or shouldn't do only apply to Jack or do you apply it to all of our leaders?
2 weeks in a row there's a been a distinct lack of leadership at crucial times, to single one of them out isn't fair IMV
Yes Jack's body language was terrible at times, yes you can call it petulant behaviour but to single him out when in the last 90-100 seconds all the leaders failed to lead is as I said unfair.
Just wonder if people would care as much if we had of won :-\
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Robbo on Jack ...
Dislike #7. Jack Riewoldt
Not a Jack basher at all, and like what he brings to the game. But it's not a good look getting angry with your teammates as they walk towards the rooms after the game. They had given their all in a harrowingly defensive-dominated game, and then to get a spray from your teammate when it's over, is simply not what's needed. It was a bad night for Jack (10 touches, two marks, one goal), having being beaten by McPharlin who, it must be said, had a little help from Richmond's poor delivery to their key forward.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/the-tackle-a-long-and-lonely-road-to-recovery-after-a-serious-knee-injury/story-fnect155-1226631158904
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I didnt see cotch yelling at his teammates like Jack did. Not for the first time either.
Like i said we need constructive leaders not spoilt little bunnies.
Dont' remember seeing Cotch call them into a huddle after the loss either daniel.
Didn't see any of our leaders direct players to flood back in the last 90 seconds
So do these rules regarding what a leader should or shouldn't do only apply to Jack or do you apply it to all of our leaders?
2 weeks in a row there's a been a distinct lack of leadership at crucial times, to single one of them out isn't fair IMV
Yes Jack's body language was terrible at times, yes you can call it petulant behaviour but to single him out when in the last 90-100 seconds all the leaders failed to lead is as I said unfair.
Just wonder if people would care as much if we had of won :-\
We didn't win WP so why deal with hypotheticals.
Yes Cotchin, Lids and Maric should all be leading by example and didn't.
However Jack on many occasions eye balling teammates yelling instruction etc etc where he as one of our big talls and leaders should've been in the back half in that last minute.
Richo was criticised for his poor body language but even he dispute his faults understood basic footy smarts to flood the back half and run run and run in close games like that.
The footballers we have at present at our football club are a few cents short of a dollar, lets be really honest here.
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The footballers we have at present at our football club are a few cents short of a dollar, lets be really honest here.
Honest? I said that we lacked leadership on Friday night and you agree
But it seems the only leader you are willing to whack is Jack.
Did Lids go back? No
Did any of the leaders signal for the likes of Edwards, Grigg, Vickery to go back? Nope
Did Maric call Vickery into the centre so he could drop back? Again Nope
Did Newman, former captain and leader simply because of his experience call them back? No
Did Cotch bark instructions to flood back? It appears not
But the only one you are prepared to take aim at regarding the leaders and what they did and didn't do is Jack and that's the issue I have.
They all stuffed up in the last minute and a bit.
And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
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And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
Like what?
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And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
Like what?
Take the words "in your face" and you'll get the drift. From what i've seen of the replay you don't see it but there were a couple of Freo players that didn't appear to be too sporting after the game. Granted we were up in the "nose bleeds" part of the stand and there was a lot going on but the carry on from where we were didn't look good
But anything Freo can be like that ;D
I copped a lovely tirade of abuse walking back to the car from some Freo feral because we'd lost, probably would have ended up in hospital if we had of won ;D
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And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
Like what?
Take the words "in your face" and you'll get the drift. From what i've seen of the replay you don't see it but there were a couple of Freo players that didn't appear to be too sporting after the game.
Just another reason why they're now my new most hated side in the competition.
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And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
Like what?
Take the words "in your face" and you'll get the drift. From what i've seen of the replay you don't see it but there were a couple of Freo players that didn't appear to be too sporting after the game. Granted we were up in the "nose bleeds" part of the stand and there was a lot going on but the carry on from where we were didn't look good
But anything Freo can be like that ;D
I copped a lovely tirade of abuse walking back to the car from some Freo feral because we'd lost, probably would have ended up in hospital if we had of won ;D
Dogs
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And just on Robbo's comment about him getting angry at team-mates after the game as they were going off the ground. Hmm pity he wasn't at the game and didn't see some of the crap the Dockers players were going on with. Could it be for just a milli-second that Jack may have been going off at them and not his team-mates?
Like what?
Take the words "in your face" and you'll get the drift. From what i've seen of the replay you don't see it but there were a couple of Freo players that didn't appear to be too sporting after the game.
If that's the case, then Im really looking fwd to rnd 17 July 21
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I copped a lovely tirade of abuse walking back to the car from some Freo feral because we'd lost, probably would have ended up in hospital if we had of won ;D
You should have thrown a beer in his face ;D
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I copped a lovely tirade of abuse walking back to the car from some Freo feral because we'd lost, probably would have ended up in hospital if we had of won ;D
You should have thrown a beer in his face ;D
No need for beers
They retreat very qucikcly when you ask them politely of course how many premierships they've won ;D :thumbsup
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Can I add I am not codoning Jack's behaviour on Friday night (far from it) because he really does need to get the sulking in particular under control
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I copped a lovely tirade of abuse walking back to the car from some Freo feral because we'd lost, probably would have ended up in hospital if we had of won ;D
You should have thrown a beer in his face ;D
No need for beers
They retreat very qucikcly when you ask them politely of course how many premierships they've won ;D :thumbsup
Such a poo stain club. Their fans don't understand they copied the Eagles and joined OUR league so yes Freo our 10 flags still count. You still have zero either way they look at it. :shh
Looking forward to dishing out some abuse and waving my scarf in the faces of those purple poofs as we thump them. 60,000 screaming Tigers getting the umps behind us like their fans do.
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Article on the AFL site saying people should lay off Jack, everytime I click it tells me I'm out of bounds
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Article on the AFL site saying people should lay off Jack, everytime I click it tells me I'm out of bounds
That's the gist of the article "you're out of bounds having a go at Jack" :rollin :rollin
No you directly BTW, just anyone having a go :lol
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(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/GetOffJacksBack620.jpg)
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=541571
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Bleeds yellow and black
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Bleeds yellow and black
Yep. Kicks goals, takes speccies, ripper bloke. What's not to like?
People bitch and moan about the game going soft then turnaround and want blokes to play like robots. Stuffing each-way limpgots.
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Jack's arms clearly photoshopped.
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The Buzz:
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt must get on with playing good footy
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
May 01, 2013
JACK Riewoldt plays his football as if the world is against him.
His running battle with the umpires barely ceases, he plays for free kicks just a little too often, and his body language guarantees he is the centre of attention.
When the dual Coleman Medallist is flying for marks and dominating opponents it is just the fun of the fair, theatrics which guarantee the spectacle is enhanced.
But when Richmond loses a critical game by less than a goal - and Riewoldt kicks a solitary goal - it becomes way more than a sideshow.
Riewoldt the Great has turned into Petulant Jack again, and it's time for his coach and fellow leaders to pull him back into line.
He play-acted, bayed for frees and generally acted the fool on Friday night.
But the bigger problem was he refused to fly for marks or lead up at the ball, content to let an elite opponent in Luke McPharlin - and the fact he was outnumbered by Docker defenders - ruin his day.
Twice in the last 96 seconds of the game, with Richmond searching for the match-winning goal, he was outmarked or failed to bring the ball to ground.
If he busted a gut and got rolled by a better player then so be it, but the theatrics made you feel he was content to wait for another day and an easier opponent.
It mirrored his performance against the Western Bulldogs, when he kicked three of his five goals in junk time, was defended against claims he was "petulant" by Damien Hardwick and somehow got a vote from one of the two coaches.
Triple premiership forward and former Carlton captain Mark Maclure was particularly blunt on the weekend.
"Jack Riewoldt. Fair dinkum. What a prima donna. It's about time he actually stood up himself and did something," was Maclure's assessment.
The Buzz went to Maclure again yesterday in search of a remedy and he raised a comparison that should stop Riewoldt's silliness in its tracks.
"It has to be fixed by his peers. That's his biggest problem. Are they strong enough to control him? ... He is totally in control of that club. (Brett) Deledio and (Trent) Cotchin have to handle this bloke. They have to change this guy and they have to make him one of them, because at the moment he's not," Maclure said.
"He reminds me of someone else I know. This is the path they go along and it all ends in tears. Seven years on we are still seeing this.
"That's the syndrome of a poor club, and Carlton were a poor club when it happened with (Brendan) Fevola. And it reflects on coaching staff, management and the players."
Riewoldt only has to rewind five weeks to turn this latest episode full circle.
The man, who in 2010 flipped the bird against Hawthorn and berated his own teammates, was lauded for a 0.4 game in which he selflessly led into space.
Then he starred with seven goals against St Kilda, repeatedly jumping at the ball whether the Sherrin stuck or not.
Maclure says Riewoldt needs to be more selfless when an opponent is on top, or believes Richmond will never achieve true success.
"The players have got to pull him in and say, 'Come with us, or we are going to cut you free.' They will never win one the way he is going. Who does he kick his goals against? Against the s--- clubs. He is a flat track bully who doesn't kick them against the big teams.
"(Against McPharlin) he didn't go at the ball. You have to open up space, and that was Jack's job. He had to take opponents away from (Tyrone) Vickery and instead he blued when people didn't kick it on his chest."
You don't see Tom Hawkins, or Harry Taylor, or James Podsiadly carrying on like that, because they come from an elite club and an elite culture.
It's time for Riewoldt to forget the distractions and take on the Cats on Saturday night in what is a huge game for his side.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-must-get-on-with-playing-good-footy/story-fndv8t7m-1226632553081
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You don't see Tom Hawkins, or Harry Taylor, or James Podsiadly carrying on like that, because they come from an elite club and an elite culture.
Cam Mooney and Steve Johnson say hi you gimp flog
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this is all bs
99% of jacks whining is warranted, umps do not give him a fair go, and players do not kick th eball in spots to his advantage but gift wrap delivery to the defenders
richo had the same problems
jack is a gun and who cares if he wants and demands the ball all great players do
mark mclure is a stuffhead full stop
if the midfeild do their job properly jack will kick 100 a yr and will flog the cats
its up to the mids not jack
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Jack will be back.
Another media build up started by who else but a Carlton player we all hated with a passion,Mark "Manure" Clure.
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jack is a gun and who cares if he wants and demands the ball all great players do
Jack tagged as Great.WoWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :jump
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jack is a gun and who cares if he wants and demands the ball all great players do
Jack tagged as Great.WoWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :jump
LOL.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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wouldn't worry about Mary Maclure :lol
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You don't see Tom Hawkins, or Harry Taylor, or James Podsiadly carrying on like that, because they come from an elite club and an elite culture.
Cam Mooney and Steve Johnson say hi you gimp flog
Gas leaving people to die..
Th benchmark of moral upstandingness is geeeelong.
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rance is stuffed, hawkins will kill him
and how can anyone we confident
we have been geelongs bitch for decades
we r gawn
if the midfeild do their job properly jack will kick 100 a yr and will flog the cats
its up to the mids not jack
:huh3
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Jack keen to finalise contract
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
1:40pm AEST Wednesday, May 1, 2013
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt wants to remain a Tiger and for his new contract to be finalised as soon as possible.
The 24-year-old is one of a raft of experienced Tigers poised to come out of contract at the end of the season, with captain Trent Cotchin and midfielder Dustin Martin other headline acts.
Riewoldt said his management group Strategic and manager Liam Pickering were sorting it out after the sudden resignation of football manager Craig Cameron in February delayed proceedings.
"I think any player wants to get their contract [talks] over and done with and their future set in stone as soon as possible," Riewoldt said on Wednesday.
"I think the process with all of our contracts has been put back a little bit by Craig Cameron leaving so abruptly and really having to fill that void.
"I think we've just been caught behind the ball with Craig leaving so that will happen as soon as it happens and we'll sort it out and move on from there.
"It's definitely no distraction for us because we're excited about how we're playing."
Cameron, who left the Tigers to join the horse racing industry, was replaced by Dan Richardson, a former associate director of sports marketing and management company Elite Sports Properties.
While Riewoldt, Cotchin and Martin are the big guns needing new deals, a number of other Tigers including Dylan Grimes, Brandon Ellis, Jake Batchelor, Luke McGuane, Alex Rance and Reece Conca are in the same position.
Riewoldt said the process to secure the list would unfold in the near future.
"No doubt we'll be catching up on those sorts of things in the coming months and really ticking it off because we've got some young guys coming out of contract that are building in the right direction and they're the players that we're looking to re-sign."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-01/jack-keen-to-finalise-contract
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Cotchin defends 'passionate' Riewoldt
By Jennifer Phelan and Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
2:15pm AEST Wednesday, May 1, 2013
JACK Riewoldt says his on-field body language and attitude is a product of wearing his heart on his sleeve – not being petulant.
The Richmond forward was labelled "a prima donna" by Carlton premiership forward Mark Maclure after he was animated with teammates immediately after their one-point loss to Fremantle at Patersons Stadium on Friday night.
North Melbourne premiership star David King said the Coleman medallist "complained and sooked and carried on".
The 24-year-old said he had become "thick skinned" as a result of playing football but believed he could be an "easy target" given "you can pick any bit of footage and crucify anyone with it".
"I'm an emotional person, I like to think that I'm loyal … I play with emotion and I reckon I'd be a pretty boring person and a pretty boring player if I didn't do that," Riewoldt said on Wednesday.
"It's a doubled-edged sword, AFL, and there's definitely cries for players to have a bit more personality but if you show a bit of personality you can be shot down pretty quickly.
"I'm an easy target, I know that, I'm a full forward, I play for Richmond, a massive football club in Melbourne – I'm definitely going to get targeted.
"It's the way I handle that and ultimately I listen to the people I care about the most and the people who are in charge of the club."
Maclure has since said Riewoldt's behaviour needs to be controlled by his teammates, but captain Trent Cotchin said the Tigers' leadership group had no issue with "the way he wears his heart on his sleeve".
"He's a passionate guy," Cotchin said.
"He loves the footy club and he loves playing footy. He's a fantastic person and we love playing with him.
"Whether or not people from the outside world think he's doing the wrong thing, we don't have any issues with the way he wears his heart on his sleeve.
"It's probably something you don't notice as much on-field. I think it comes across a little bit worse on TV."
Riewoldt conceded his one-goal, 10-possession performance against Fremantle wasn't at the "required standard" and that he was disappointed in his game.
But he said he hadn't been spoken to internally about his attitude and would continue to ignore media comment on it.
"The day that I start listening to what people in the media have got to say about my game and my attitude and my character is probably the day I retire," he said.
"I listen to Damien Hardwick, Brendon Gale, Trent Cotchin … ultimately I love the club, I respect my teammates and I respect the decisions the hierarchy of the club make.
"As far as I'm concerned and as far as they're concerned, they're pretty happy with how I'm going."
Riewoldt said while he was used to negative things being said in public forums, the impact it had on his loved ones was disappointing.
"You learn to become pretty thick skinned about what's said about you but it can definitely affect your family and I think that's where people have got to be really careful (about)," he said.
"What they are saying, it does have a bit of a waterfall effect and can affect the people in the general vicinity of the player and the loved ones of the player."
Cotchin said Riewoldt was playing an important role for the team and leading in his own way.
"You only have to look at the way he's been playing for the first five rounds of this year," Cotchin said.
"He's played a real selfless role at times for the team; he's let Ty Vickery take control and Luke McGuane's stepped up.
"He's always speaking and he's always giving direction to the younger guys and the forward line.
"He's doing a lot of things right and the impact he's having on the younger guys coming into the team is really good."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-01/cotchin-defends-passionate-jack
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Onya Cotchy :thumbsup
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Was just listening to Dunstall on MMM and he said this crap about Jack is making a mountain out of a mole hill :cheers the big chief has our back.
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Norf sycophants trying to deflect from their 1-4 start
Essendank sycophants trying to deflect from being drug cheats
Carlscum sycophants trying to deflect from having no KPF's that aren't absolute spuds
And ralphy eats crayons
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Lazy SOB.
Wont chase, not even second attempts.
Only plays when crowd is up his arse
Moron
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A switched on Jack makes the difference between a Tight win and a Tight loss. ;)
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt admits he plays with emotion
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun May 01, 2013 7:05PM
JACK Riewoldt insists no one at Richmond has a problem with his attitude or the way he behaved during Friday's loss to Fremantle.
Riewoldt spoke yesterday of his disappointment in his own performance against the Dockers, in which he kicked one goal and collected just 10 possessions.
A story in yesterday's Herald Sun questioned Riewoldt's body language, while triple premiership forward Mark Maclure labelled the forward a "prima donna".
The 24-year-old said the fact he wore his heart on his sleeve could "definitely" be misconstrued.
"I'm an emotional person ... I play with emotion and I reckon I'd be a pretty boring person and a pretty boring player if I didn't do that," Riewoldt said at Etihad Stadium, where he was announced as an ambassador for "Mac Pack", a McDonald's program that encourages participation in junior sport.
"It's a double-edged sword (in the) AFL. There's definitely cries for players to have a bit more personality, but if you show a bit of personality, you can be shot down pretty quickly.
"I'm an easy target, I know that."
This is not the first time Riewoldt's attitude has been questioned.
Premiership coach Paul Roos said last year Riewoldt would be testing Tigers boss Damien Hardwick's patience with his on-field behaviour.
In Round 2, 2011, he argued with club officials for substituting him out of a game because of concussion and a week later he gave the "bird" to the Hawthorn bench.
That prompted Hawks legend Jason Dunstall to publicly warn Riewoldt he risked being remembered for all the wrong reasons.
"I might be being pigeon-holed a little bit like that I reckon," Riewoldt said yesterday when asked if his attitude issues remained.
"But I'm always trying to work to become a better leader. I'm in the leadership group, I try to go out there and lead the football club that I love as best as possible.
"How someone in the media portrays what I'm doing to how I'm portraying it is obviously completely different."
The two-time Coleman medallist said he had not been spoken to by Hardwick or captain Trent Cotchin about his attitude on Friday night.
And he said comments from anyone outside of the club did not resonate with him. "You've got cameras and reporters all around you and you learn to become pretty thick-skinned about what's said about you," he said. "But it can definitely affect your family and I think that's where people have got to be really careful about what they are saying."
Riewoldt, out of contract at season's end, said he hoped to sign a new deal with the Tigers soon.
He said the sudden departure of former football manager Craig Cameron before the season had put back negotiations between the club and his manager Liam Pickering.
"I think any player wants to get their contract over and done with and their future set in stone as quick as possible," Riewoldt said.
"That will happen as soon as it happens. It's definitely no distraction for us."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-captain-trent-cotchin-has-no-problem-with-jack-riewoldts-attitude/story-e6frf9mx-1226633300806
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Haters got to hate. Jack is still third on the goalkicking and barring injury is likely to be challenging for his 3rd Coleman medal. Yeah we lost and McPharlin beat Jack but it wasn't Jack's fault we lost. We were crap as a team from quarter time to midway through the 3rd and then got screwed in the last by dodgy umpiring.
By the way how's Drew Petrie going this year Ralphy and Maclure? Or how about the Pods?
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King and McClure took Jack's response as an attack on them and reckon he should pull his head in even further ::)
H8rz gonna H8
Apparently McClure watched him (from his lounge room) on Friday and he did all these things wrong. Said he'd like to sit with him and go through his tape. From that tape he came up with McPharlin taking a mark from a poor inside 50 kick and Jack showing his frustration at the kicker, and Jack cranky after we lost. LMFAO
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Haters got to hate. Jack is still third on the goalkicking and barring injury is likely to be challenging for his 3rd Coleman medal. Yeah we lost and McPharlin beat Jack but it wasn't Jack's fault we lost. We were crap as a team from quarter time to midway through the 3rd and then got screwed in the last by dodgy umpiring.
By the way how's Drew Petrie going this year Ralphy and Maclure? Or how about the Pods?
MaClure on 360 last night said something like "if he was doing some other role then it would be ok" and all I could say was "like when he took Jamison out of the game you peanut?" MaClure is one of the biggest primadonnas himself and does nothing but dribble rubbish.
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Said it before will say it again what you see on the TV is very different to what you see at the ground. McClure should remember that
I was listening to 3AW last night between 6.30 to 7.00 on my way to an appointment and some nuffer rang up and said he watched the entire game on the TV and the sole reason we lost was because of Jack refused to chase for the whole game. I nearly drove off the road. He didn't chase for the entire game and this bozo got this from the telly :banghead. I was at the game and that statement is just pure crap, he did chase. Granted some of his 2nd efforts were not up to scratch but suggest he didn't chase for the entire match is ludicrous
I tried to call through to counter argue but what a surprise the lines were busy
And BTW the nuffer won a prize for his call :banghead
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Said it before will say it again what you see on the TV is very different to what you see at the ground. McClure should remember thatIt's crap like that WP that inflame the blood of pure footy fans. These nuff nuffs are just that who just want to hear themselves on radio and what to spiel what the popular view is using a fancy word here or there and making themselves sound like students of the game when really they are just clogging talk back lines and giving credence to the journos and their short sighted simpleton views so as they can audiences to hear their program's and morons to read their papers.
I was listening to 3AW last night between 6.30 to 7.00 on my way to an appointment and some nuffer rang up and said he watched the entire game on the TV and the sole reason we lost was because of Jack refused to chase for the whole game. I nearly drove off the road. He didn't chase for the entire game and this bozo got this from the telly :banghead. I was at the game and that statement is just pure crap, he did chase. Granted some of his 2nd efforts were not up to scratch but suggest he didn't chase for the entire match is ludicrous
I tried to call through to counter argue but what a surprise the lines were busy
And BTW the nuffer won a prize for his call :banghead
It's crap like that WP that inflame the blood of pure footy fans. These nuff nuffs are just that who just want to hear themselves on radio and what to spiel what the popular view is using a fancy word here or there and making themselves sound like students of the game when really they are just clogging talk back lines and giving credence to the journos and their short sighted simpleton views so as they can audiences to hear their program's and morons to read their papers.
But of course WP if you were to get on you'd get a thanks for your call and not even the respect of making comment on what you've said and they would conveniently talk about something else because these hosts and journos don't deal in truth but deal in facts. Facts that were either heard or seen in the second or third person. :thumbsup
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Haters got to hate. Jack is still third on the goalkicking and barring injury is likely to be challenging for his 3rd Coleman medal. Yeah we lost and McPharlin beat Jack but it wasn't Jack's fault we lost. We were crap as a team from quarter time to midway through the 3rd and then got screwed in the last by dodgy umpiring.
By the way how's Drew Petrie going this year Ralphy and Maclure? Or how about the Pods?
MaClure on 360 last night said something like "if he was doing some other role then it would be ok" and all I could say was "like when he took Jamison out of the game you peanut?" MaClure is one of the biggest primadonnas himself and does nothing but dribble rubbish.
:cheers
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Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says Jack Riewoldt's defensive side needs adjustment
Rebecca Williams
From: Herald Sun
May 03, 2013
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says it is Jack Riewoldt's defensive game rather than his on-field attitude that needs adjusting after last week's loss to Fremantle.
Riewoldt's on-field behaviour in the one-point loss to the Dockers has been put under the spotlight, with commentator Mark Maclure labelling him a "prima donna".
But Hardwick said today his biggest concern with Riewoldt's game last week was that his defensive play was not up to the standard he expected.
"We spoke on Monday about his game and he was disappointed,'' Hardwick said.
"Offensively he is always going to have ups and downs. He played on a quality opponent, Luke McPharlin. We were disappointed with his defensive aspects of his game.
"We felt, and Jack would be the first to admit, that he didn't chase hard enough and his defensive efforts weren't to his usual standard.
"I thought he had a below standard game on the weekend and he would be the first one to agree with that.''
Hardwick said Riewoldt's passion was one of his great attributes as a player, but admitted the Tigers would like to harness it at times.
"He is a passionate individual and that's part of the reason that makes him a great player,'' Hardwick said.
"You look at most strikers across the league and within the AFL, they're passionate players.
"Travis Cloke, Buddy Franklin...all these type of players...they play with passion and Jack is no different.
"Do we want him to harness that passion at times? Of course we do...that is something he has to work on and he accepts that.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-jack-riewoldts-defensive-side-needs-adjustment/story-e6frf9mx-1226633964168
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Tigers midfield to blame for Jack Riewoldt's performance, Brendan Fevola says
Adrian Ballantyne
From: News Limited Network
May 02, 2013 11:23PM
FORMER AFL forward Brendan Fevola says Richmond's midfield is the cause of Jack Riewoldt's poor performance against Fremantle.
Fevola sympathised with Riewoldt and said the Tiger forward's performance was crippled by his own team's delivery into the forward line.
That assessment was despite Richmond coach Damien Hardwick criticising Riewoldt's defensive efforts and acknowledging he had played a "below standard" game.
But Fevola trained his sights on Richmond's midfield, which includes stars Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Dustin Martin, as the reason for Riewoldt's ordinary outing.
"Last week obviously he played against a team with Ross Lyon as a coach, who's got great defenders, they play a great defensive game," Fevola - a controversial 204-game veteran at Carlton and Brisbane - said on the Footy Show.
"He played on Luke McPharlin, who I'd rate as probably my hardest opponent I've ever played on.
"It's always going to be a tough day and it doesn't help when the ball's getting kicked on his head.
"With forwards it's very hard. You might get four or five opportunities ... so when you get that chance you want the ball kicked there."
"You do get frustrated, you're only as good as your midfield."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/tigers-midfield-to-blame-for-jack-riewoldts-performance-brendan-fevola-says/story-e6frf9mx-1226634273720
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A fair call. You are only as good as your midfield. Delivery into the forwardline is critical. I hope that Jack comes out firing. Didn't think much of McClure as a player think less of him as a journalist
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says it is Jack Riewoldt's defensive game rather than his on-field attitude that needs adjusting after last week's loss to Fremantle.
I'd have thought that his defensive side would be largely influenced by his on field attitude.?
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says it is Jack Riewoldt's defensive game rather than his on-field attitude that needs adjusting after last week's loss to Fremantle.
I'd have thought that his defensive side would be largely influenced by his on field attitude.?
Nice pick up - I'm sure dimma might concede that behind closed doors
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Just watched Dimma's Dissection and it is as clear as day that Jack had the opportunity to be the extra man deep in Defence if he wanted too. Even after Maric gesticulated to him he didn't budge from the 50 metre arc. This is what Dimma was referring to when he criticised Jack's defensive work.
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which comes down to attitude.
i hope he gave him a rocket
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Just watched Dimma's Dissection and it is as clear as day that Jack had the opportunity to be the extra man deep in Defence if he wanted too. Even after Maric gesticulated to him he didn't budge from the 50 metre arc. This is what Dimma was referring to when he criticised Jack's defensive work.
Richo would have been down back.
:cheers
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which comes down to attitude.
i hope he gave him a rocket
No doubt, wonder if Jack can help himself when he hits the ground tonight
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Just watched Dimma's Dissection and it is as clear as day that Jack had the opportunity to be the extra man deep in Defence if he wanted too. Even after Maric gesticulated to him he didn't budge from the 50 metre arc. This is what Dimma was referring to when he criticised Jack's defensive work.
Richo would have been down back.
:cheers
That is exactly what I mentioned the other day. He is clearly not as smart as Richo or Benny Gale for that matter.
I lost count how many times they gut ran to the back 50 in games like that to take telling marks. Jack wouldnt have done it more than a few times in any game I've seen him play.
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poo we need a big game from Jackie boy tonight.
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Trade the bum
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Trade the bum
He shouldn't be above getting the odd whack - maybe that's the problem
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Jack Riewoldt gets a pass mark but he couldn't spear the Tigers to victory
Bruce Matthews
From: Sunday Herald Sun
May 04, 2013 10:43PM
PASSIONATE or petulant. Jack Riewoldt so polarises opinion to the extreme.
Gone were the public displays of displeasure that provoked the ire of two premiership players and now respected media commentators last week.
Jumping Jack was all concentration despite fighting a losing battle to scrounge kicks and goals against probably the most organised and miserly backline in the competition.
That Riewoldt booted three goals and set up two more gave the maligned Richmond key forward a pass mark in his battle with Geelong defender Tom Lonergan.
It was far from a match-influencing performance, but he had excuses. And plenty of them, particularly in the second half with haphazard delivery from Tiger teammates inside his forward 50 domain.
No one in the AFL can expect to get a look at a high ball when they have to contend with a tangle of arms from Lonergan and his backline mates Harry Taylor and Andrew Mackie. Simply, Riewoldt had to earn every one of his possessions.
On a perfect night for the high-flying forwards, it was absolutely no consolation for Richmond that Cats counterparts Tom Hawkins and James Podsiadly also impacted only sporadically in the ebb and flow of what was a fierce contest for three quarters.
But the value of Hawkins and Podsiadly was to present targets and hit the contests hard to at least bring the ball to ground for those dangerous little crumbers like Mathew Stokes and Allen Christensen.
Aside from opportunist Jake King, Riewoldt had no such company to apply scoreboard pressure to the efficient Cats.
Riewoldt literally couldn't wait to get out onto the MCG turf last night ... dressed and ready to go, he was jogging along the Members side boundary line during the little leaguers games more than an hour before the main event.
A cursory wave to a couple of kids who recognised him, he then settled for 20m kicks to assistant coach Brendon Lade for several minutes just to warm to the task.
It was far from the ideal start either for the scrutinised forward when he limped to the interchange gate and down the steps into the dressing rooms after a heavy knock his very first contest.
But Tiger fans breathed easier when their goalkicking ace returned after only two minutes and trotted to Lonergan's side.
The dual Coleman medallist's first contribution was all about team as he tapped a loose ball ruckman-style to release little King to snap a goal early in the first quarter.
And he was on the scoresheet a minute later with a contested mark on the edge of the goal square to play his part in the Tigers' fast start.
When Riewoldt marked a difficult floating kick from Ricky Petterd early in the second term, he held the ball aloft in one hand before slotting the goal from 20m.
It was the sole example of the showman on a night that was all about business to try to unhinge this slick Geelong unit.
The team man to the end. Alas, he could only do so much alone and watched helplessly from the other end as the Cats ran away in the second half.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/jack-riewoldt-gets-a-pass-mark-but-he-couldnt-spear-the-tigers-to-victory/story-e6frf9mx-1226635293477
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Tigers go into bat for Riewoldt
Richmond officials are dirty on a few journos taking pot shots at Jack Riewoldt. Said officials are especially dirty because they consider those journos have never been great performers. According to one of those officials, Riewoldt is doing all the team things asked of him and that's what it's all about at Tigerland.
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/the-shadowafl-rumour-file-233996
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Tigers go into bat for Riewoldt
Richmond officials are dirty on a few journos taking pot shots at Jack Riewoldt. Said officials are especially dirty because they consider those journos have never been great performers. According to one of those officials, Riewoldt is doing all the team things asked of him and that's what it's all about at Tigerland.
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/the-shadowafl-rumour-file-233996
Lol what about some feral fans, never performed a day in their life
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Full forward.
Lead create an option, mark ball and kick goals.
Defensive pressure when opposition has ball.
.....It's not rocket science.
What he's great at is ability to help teammates with tap-ons, blocks etc.
What i have noticed is sometimes he's way ahead of his team mates when he does this and some of them have no idea, are dumb or haven't read the situation but he seems well aware of where they are most of the time.
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Will all of Jack's critics in the media go just as hard at Hurley after last night's 'effort'? I won't hold my breath :whistle.
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Hurley is fat
Missing his AOD milkshakes
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Hurley is the most over rated player going around
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Jack shut up his critics today. Back in (equal) front in the Coleman too.
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Suck on that sellers.
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Was awesome today as well, played a good team game and still nailed a bagfull
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Suck on that sellers.
He will take full credit I'm sure.
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I want him bagged more often!! :lol :lol :lol :gotigers
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:clapping
Great game but as a leader he needs to stand up against the quality teams.
He's always going to play well against the teams around us and below us.
Its against teams like Geelong that our leaders need to show that bit extra even when things aren't going their way.
That said he did have a good game.
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Just quietly his left foot goal in the second qtr (?) you wouldn't see many KPF's doing that.
Vert talented is Jack :shh
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Just quietly his left foot goal in the second qtr (?) you wouldn't see many KPF's doing that.
Vert talented is Jack :shh
First quarter goal from the Tony Hall pocket. :thumbsup
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Jack to the fore
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, May 13, 2013
Jack Riewoldt’s five-goal haul against Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium last Saturday was the 28th time in his past 66 games that the star Richmond spearhead has kicked four goals or more.
Since Round 8, 2010, Riewoldt has managed to achieve this four-goal match return at a highly-impressive 42% strike-rate.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-05-13/jack-to-the-fore
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Suck on that sellers.
He was sucking on something last night on the ABC
Not a happy camper was our Sellers ;D
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Did anyone see the footage of him on the Sunday Footy Show where he jumped early for a mark and gave away a stupid free and then yelled at the umpire saying he was pushed.
One of the all time great flogs.
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No, but i saw it during the game.
It certainly makes you wonder.......
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Did anyone see the footage of him on the Sunday Footy Show where he jumped early for a mark and gave away a stupid free and then yelled at the umpire saying he was pushed.
One of the all time great flogs.
I agree, total flog !!
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It was embarrassing.
I always stick up to him with my mates. When that happened I had to just shake my head in disbelief. Cant defend that crap
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I've ripped the number 8 off my dufflecoat
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Did anyone see the footage of him on the Sunday Footy Show where he jumped early for a mark and gave away a stupid free and then yelled at the umpire saying he was pushed.
One of the all time great flogs.
yes it was ridiculous but he shouldn't have to be in that position. If the midfield were delivering the ball correctly to a well timed lead then in reality he should be taking chest marks 75% of the time, surely this is the lowest risk method within the forward line. The problem is that the ball is coming inside 50 so slowly and haphazardly that it means the forwards are flat footed and become reactive rather than proactive. We really need to get the ball inside 50 much quicker and to predetermined lead zones. I would have thought a forwards coach would have this down to a fine art by now. Instead it just looks like marks/goals are occurring more from luck than good management.
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I would like to see him traded at the end of the season.
Key forwards with huge egos and individual tendencies are rarely are part of teams that win premierships.
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I would like to see him traded at the end of the season.
Key forwards with huge egos and individual tendencies are rarely are part of teams that win premierships.
Buddy Franklin says hi.
;D
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I would like to see him traded at the end of the season.
Key forwards with huge egos and individual tendencies are rarely are part of teams that win premierships.
Buddy Franklin says hi.
;D
I think that description fits Franklin off field, not so sure about on field.
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I would like to see him traded at the end of the season.
Key forwards with huge egos and individual tendencies are rarely are part of teams that win premierships.
If we keep chipping the ball around the backline like we did on the weekend he may as well walk. He was in form on Saturday night. He beat Carlisle about 4 times in the first 20 minutes of the game then the ball didn't get near him.
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Did anyone see the footage of him on the Sunday Footy Show where he jumped early for a mark and gave away a stupid free and then yelled at the umpire saying he was pushed.
One of the all time great flogs.
yes it was ridiculous but he shouldn't have to be in that position. If the midfield were delivering the ball correctly to a well timed lead then in reality he should be taking chest marks 75% of the time, surely this is the lowest risk method within the forward line. The problem is that the ball is coming inside 50 so slowly and haphazardly that it means the forwards are flat footed and become reactive rather than proactive. We really need to get the ball inside 50 much quicker and to predetermined lead zones. I would have thought a forwards coach would have this down to a fine art by now. Instead it just looks like marks/goals are occurring more from luck than good management.
Good post our forward delivery is so crap, I think in that instance the ball was kicked to a pack of three bummers, not surprised on how he had to leap into that pack.
Cotch was lowering the eyes and delivering well but in the main the rest of the delivery was a disgrace.
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Jack is peeed off ATM and rightly so. He is in dangerous form but the ball is not coming to him. Who gives a stuff if he is whining to the umps every now and then, he is working hard and doing good thugs when he has the opportunity.
The least of our problems
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Why don't we do a Tarrant/Croad with one of our former players...
Trade our 2nd rounder (as we know FJ will do nothing with it anyway) + Dylan Grimes
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Why don't we do a Tarrant/Croad with one of our former players...
Trade our 2nd rounder (as we know FJ will do nothing with it anyway) + Dylan Grimes
Then get Dylan Grimes back with another useless 2nd rounder 2 years later once he's fit. :clapping
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Jack is peeed off ATM and rightly so. He is in dangerous form but the ball is not coming to him. Who gives a stuff if he is whining to the umps every now and then, he is working hard and doing good thugs when he has the opportunity.
The least of our problems
"Doing good thugs"
:lol
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I would like to see him traded at the end of the season.
Key forwards with huge egos and individual tendencies are rarely are part of teams that win premierships.
We should get a motza for him as well from a top side, they know he would kick near a 100 per season with proper delivery.
He would probably kick 15 on Rance
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Sliding doors: round ten
By Damian Barrett
Friday, May 31, 2013
IF ........... Richmond doesn’t start adopting a forward-50 game plan which allows Jack Riewoldt to strut around like the superstar he is …
THEN ....… his talent is being wasted. He needs to have the licence to be The Man, and let’s face it, the other plan is not working.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-31/sliding-doors-round-eight
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Sliding doors: round ten
By Damian Barrett
Friday, May 31, 2013
Richmond .... start adopting a forward-50 game plan
.........let’s face it, the other plan is not working.
I agree with these ^^^sections ::)
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Damian Barrett becoming obsessed with the Jack ...
IF ........ Damien Hardwick doesn't start directing more inside-50 balls to Jack Riewoldt …
THEN ….... he will risk caging his lion for too long. Lions shouldn't be caged for an entire season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-14/sliding-doors-round-eight
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barret is a tool
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Bloody good today the big Ranger. He's super clean in the wet.
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Jack's footy smarts can be summed up by that effort along the boundary that was finished off with a goal by Dusty. Brilliant stuff!
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-06-15/round-12-jack-dribbles-dusty-goals
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sellers can go pull himself,, over the way he keeps bagging jack saying he is this and that
jack is a team man unlike dangerfield but the media seem to love this figjam
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Held on to all the bloody time.
FCking cheating umpire pig-dogs.
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Held on to all the bloody time.
stuffing cheating umpire pig-dogs.
:clapping
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Kicks straight as a canon shot with the honing of a lodestone......Whoa
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2 coleman medals, very good player for his position is jack, how he conducts himself doesnt bother me at all, if he plays good then thats enough.
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Got the feeling yesterday that if Mark Ricciuto had of played with Jack, he would have punched the poo out of him.
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Got the feeling yesterday that if Mark Ricciuto had of played with Jack, he would have punched the poo out of him.
Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssss big maaaaaan!
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I want to see Cotchin lace it out to Reiwoldt for him to miss then see Cotch give him a big ol' spray.
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Jack's footy smarts can be summed up by that effort along the boundary that was finished off with a goal by Dusty. Brilliant stuff!
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-06-15/round-12-jack-dribbles-dusty-goals
Don't know if it sums him up but was definitely a admirable effort
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The Coleman Medal race is one of the closest ever ....
Lindsay Thomas 35
Jack Riewoldt 34
Travis Cloke 34
Josh Kennedy 34
Jeremy Cameron 33
Lance Franklin 31
Jarryd Roughead 31
Nick Riewoldt 30
Tom Hawkins 29
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when a hack like Lindsay Thomas is leading it
EFA :thumbsup
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
Jeremy Cameron is a very good player in a crap side. Would love him at Tigerland TBH
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
Jeremy Cameron is a very good player in a crap side. Would love him at Tigerland TBH
For Riewoldt? :rollin
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
Jeremy Cameron is a very good player in a crap side. Would love him at Tigerland TBH
Nah lazy ass footballer, do u even watch his games?
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I would accept Pick 1 + Taylor Adams for Riewoldt = Boyd+Adams.
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
Jeremy Cameron is a very good player in a crap side. Would love him at Tigerland TBH
Nah lazy ass footballer, do u even watch his games?
yeah I do and he was very very good against one of the best teams in the comp in Geelong
Was exceptional good against us last year and I watched that first hand not on the TV
Yes was poor yesterday but at 19 consistency is going to be all over the shop with kids especially KP players
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You know its a crap year for the coleman when hacks like Jeremy Cameron are right up there
Jeremy Cameron is a very good player in a crap side. Would love him at Tigerland TBH
Nah lazy ass footballer, do u even watch his games?
yeah I do and he was very very good against one of the best teams in the comp in Geelong
Was exceptional good against us last year and I watched that first hand not on the TV
Yes was poor yesterday but at 19 consistency is going to be all over the shop with kids especially KP players
You missed Montanas sarcasm WP. He is still getting over issues.
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I love ya Chuck but TM has bent you over here. JC is a gun
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I love ya Chuck but TM has bent you over here. JC is a gun
The Big JC will cause GWS Salary problems when he becomes a FA. :shh
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stuffing oath, the kid is 19 and already getting double and triple teamed, has a midfield that delivers the ball like john howard most weeks, and is 3rd in the coleman
big jezza :cheers
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Let him earn a Coleman and then we can talk
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You missed Montanas sarcasm WP. He is still getting over issues.
Unresolved or resolved issues? ;D
Things are crook when I miss sarcasm, I'm losing it :'( :rollin
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And it has to be one of those real Coleman's too not one of those pooncey 70 odd goal ones too
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Agreed. Jack's colemans are like a Holden Sunbird, a poor man's Torana.
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I dont think he'l go because I reckon he genuinely loves the tigez. Just wants a bit more cash.
If he does leave us, however, i will cry and lead an angry mob to attack his house with pitchforks.
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/22/article-1322748-0BB6489C000005DC-400_634x360.jpg)
Willy and his mates helping Jack to decide on his future.
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G :lol
That's me in the black hoodie. :shh
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Doesn't deserve any extra cash. Trade him for Schulz, Gray and a 2nd rounder
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Jack Riewoldt @JackRiewoldt08 twitter:
"If you can't beat them join them! #quack"
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Jack Riewoldt @JackRiewoldt08 twitter:
"If you can't beat them join them! #quack"
Yessss big man, sign on the dotted line :thumbsup
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talking about ducking for free kicks?
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talking about ducking for free kicks?
Yep. Pretty much every footy show has singled out that free kick to Jack since last Saturday. Jack obviously copied the Selwood brothers and Shuey who duck for frees every time they play.
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talking about ducking for free kicks?
Yep. Pretty much every footy show has singled out that free kick to Jack since last Saturday. Jack obviously copied the Selwood brothers and Shuey who duck for frees every time they play.
And King
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Jack a ripper
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, June 24, 2013
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has praised the efforts of the Tigers’ star key forward Jack Riewoldt in taking his game to another level this season.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-24/jack-a-ripper
Btw Jack's still near the top in the Coleman Medal race:
1 Josh Kennedy 39
2 Jack Riewoldt 37
3 Jarryd Roughead 36
4 Lindsay Thomas 35
5 Travis Cloke 34
6 Lance Franklin 33
7 Nick Riewoldt 33
8 Jeremy Cameron 33
9 Tom Hawkins 32
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When will you sign Jack?
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When all the Tiger fans accept as the greatest full forward of the modern era
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After he kicks another big bag against the Aints
Smart boy is Jack ;) ;) ;)
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After he kicks another big bag against the Aints
Smart boy is Jack ;) ;) ;)
No Fisher, No Simpkin. It's gunna be an avalanche.
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From last Friday. Wheatley and Robbo talking about Jack's ducking for a free kick ...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/riewoldt039s-tactical-technique/video-e6frf33l-1226667341374?sectionvertical=afl
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It's starting to become a witch hunt all the talk about Jack's duck for a free. For crying out loud, the Eagles have made it an art form and he was only doing what a number of them do several times every single match. Get off his bloody case and debate the real issue - the fact that the maggots are paying it that way in the first place. Very very easy to stop it happening.
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sooks
now that a Richmond player has done it, it's unmanly. In the past it was, clever football or footy smarts, now they all frown and bs us with denial lol stuffing load of CODS WOLLOP
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Jack’s best year yet: Hardwick
By Maddy Jeffery
richmondfc.com.au
5:06pm AEST Thursday, June 27, 2013
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has labelled key forward Jack Riewoldt’s season as his best yet, citing his consistent goalkicking and ability to have an impact in every match.
Averaging three goals per game, Riewoldt is sitting second on the AFL goalkicking leaderboard, and is ranked No. 1 at the Club for score assists.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-06-27/jacks-best-year-yet-hardwick
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I agree, his best year, although I miss the way he attacked the ball in 2010.
But when will/will he re-sign?
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Jack Riewoldt having 'best season'
Sky News
Updated: 09:20, Saturday June 29, 2013
Relying less on Jack Riewoldt is making Richmond, and the star goalkicker, more dangerous.
That's the view of Tigers AFL coach Damien Hardwick, believing the club's unearthing of a spread of goalkickers has helped the club's bid for a first finals appearance in 12 years.
St Kilda have earmarked Riewoldt as the dangerman in their Sunday clash at the MCG - the forward having kicked 15 goals in his past two matches against the Saints.
But Hardwick believes the Tigers finding multiple avenues to goal has allowed Riewoldt to be more consistent, and therefore his team more menacing.
'The great thing about our spread of goalkickers this season is that Jack's had his best season since I've been at the footy club,' Hardwick said.
'He's on track for about 60 goals, he's impacting games, he's been bigger and better than years previous.
'The thing he's not relying on is kicking seven, then kicking one.
'He regularly kicks his three or four goals, which is a great result and which brings into the game Ty Vickery, Aaron Edwards, and our midfielders are kicking goals.
'He does his role as required, and we're winning as well.'
http://www.skynews.com.au/sport/article.aspx?id=883660
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Our midfield should dominate the saints and with their lack of decent backs I'd expect Lockup to kick 3, Vickery to kick 5 & Jack to kick 7.
Should be a good day at the office for the boys tomorrow.
:clapping
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25+ goal win
Get it done Tiges :gotigers
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Poor old jack , got so excited at the prospect of kicking the bakers dozen against the saints...he lost the plot completely.
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Poor old jack , got so excited at the prospect of kicking the bakers dozen against the saints...he lost the plot completely.
maybe he should adopt Josh Kennedy's run up for goal?
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AUDIO: Jack Riewoldt's chat on KB's show this morning about the Tigers big clash with North Melbourne this weekend....
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Jack-Riewoldt/8462
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Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt became the 10th Tiger in Club history to reach 300 career goals, during last Sunday’s match against St Kilda.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-03/riewoldt-notches-triple-century
Jack's actually the 11th Tiger to do so ...
1. Jack Titus 970 (294 games)
2. Matthew Richardson 800 (282)
3. Kevin Bartlett 778 (403)
4. Michael Roach 607 (200)
5. Dick Harris 548 (196)
6. Jack Dyer 443 (312)
7. Royce Hart 369 (187)
8. Ray Poulter 351 (170)
9. Dale Weightman 344 (274)
10. Jeff Hogg 306 (144)
11. Jack Riewoldt 302 (125*)
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
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Under the headline "Tiger twist", Ch 7 saying Jack is keeping fans guessing on whether he'll stay at Punt Rd. More later on in the news.
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Under the headline "Tiger twist", Ch 7 saying Jack is keeping fans guessing on whether he'll stay at Punt Rd. More later on in the news.
::) Anything?
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Just toeing company line that things will be sorted et al...headline was created coz he didnt answer affirmative to Q, do you wanna be a tiger for life ::)
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Going by what Jack just said on the Footy Show, not going anywhere. I don't think he could have said it any more convincingly :cheers
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Going by what Jack just said on the Footy Show, not going anywhere. I don't think he could have said it any more convincingly :cheers
Yep Jack was more emphatic tonight about it wasn't he. He said someone told him the media has misquoted him and he hopes to play his whole career at Richmond and that he loves the club. Just need to tie up out some final ends regarding the new contract and he hopes he'll be able to announce he's re-signed shortly.
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John Ralph utter knobend
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Riewoldt determined to stay a Tiger
The Age/ AAP
July 5, 2013
Two-time AFL Coleman Medallist Jack Riewoldt says he's determined to finalise a new deal which will keep him at Richmond.
The 24-year-old, who won All-Australian selection in 2010, is out-of-contract at the end of the 2013 season.
"We're just trying to sort out the finer details of my contract," the 125-game veteran told Channel Nine's The Footy Show on Thursday night.
"I'm looking forward to signing a new contract at Richmond and being there hopefully for the rest of my career.
"Hopefully for the Richmond faithful out there I can be putting pen to paper soon and we can have some great news."
The Tigers are sixth on the ladder after 14 rounds and appear headed for their first finals appearance since 2001.
Riewoldt said he was unaware of any possible offers coming from rival clubs such as bottom side Greater Western Sydney.
"I don't know about that. They go through Liam Pickering and my management," Riewoldt said.
"I don't hear about that. I focus solely on playing football for Richmond.
"I love the club and I'm really hoping to put pen to paper soon."
Riewoldt has kicked 40 goals in 2013 and is on track to boot 60-plus for the fourth consecutive season.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-determined-to-stay-a-tiger-20130705-2pfp9.html#ixzz2Y8FPdhfw
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Jack's now favourite in the Coleman medal race ...
$
Jack Riewoldt 3.00
Josh Kennedy 4.00
Lance Franklin 5.00
Jarryd Roughead 5.00
Travis Cloke 8.00
Tom Hawkins 15.00
Drew Petrie 26.00
Lindsay Thomas 26.00
Nick Riewoldt 41.00
Jeremy Cameron 81.00
Jack Darling 101.00
https://www.tab.com.au/#!/nsw/sports/betting/standard/AFL/AFL-Medals/2013-Coleman-Medal-Winner/Medal-Winner
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Of all our woeful players yesterday ,jack disappointed me most. For many years we talked about Richos poor body language. Well I'm afraid to say it but jacks is probably worse. With Richo yes he would spit the dummy but come the next contest he would go at it 100%.Like I said in an earlier post I noticed jack was off very early in the game,he just seemed disinterested,and maybe that sort of attitude coming from one of the superstars of the club ,infiltrates the whole playing group.There was one occasion I think in the 3rd quarter when jack was sitting on the pine and came back on ,well he walked onto the ground and walked to his position,to me that's just unacceptable
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Y didn't jack go ruck rover or CHB. when thru kick thousands of goals?
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Bye jack
Welcome Tom Boyd.
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What's the coach doing?
In the collingwood game he was influencal when we got flogged
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Hard playing as a forward sometimes. We just have to accept that the lad is a sook and it will come out at times. He's been fantastic this year but yesterday not his best effort
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This prick is the Gen Y poster boy
I wanna smash him
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Hard playing as a forward sometimes. We just have to accept that the lad is a sook and it will come out at times. He's been fantastic this year but yesterday not his best effort
Agree Coach. Was poo yesterday, but his year has generally been very good.
Basically our whole team was poo yesterday.
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i'd spit if my teammates continually bombed the ball on my head in a 2-1 or 3-1 contest or constantly kicked the ball to the advantage of my opponents, especially if they were told all week not too, were told again at qtr time, and again at half time
be bloody frustrating watching the elite richmond midfield at work some times, if he was a real leader he would have given them an absolute bake after the game
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i'd spit if my teammates continually bombed the ball on my head in a 2-1 or 3-1 contest or constantly kicked the ball to the advantage of my opponents, especially if they were told all week not too, were told again at qtr time, and again at half time
be bloody frustrating watching the elite richmond midfield at work some times, if he was a real leader he would have given them an absolute bake after the game
Agree if Richo was playing he would have gone off multiple times at the crappy delivery
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i'd spit if my teammates continually bombed the ball on my head in a 2-1 or 3-1 contest or constantly kicked the ball to the advantage of my opponents, especially if they were told all week not too, were told again at qtr time, and again at half time
be bloody frustrating watching the elite richmond midfield at work some times, if he was a real leader he would have given them an absolute bake after the game
that was doing my head in and originally i put it down to hardwick being outcoached match day, but from his aftermatch presser they were expecting what north did and trained for it, but the players just bombed long rather than do what they should have, which played right onto norths hands.
I hope he gave them the greatest of bakes behind closed doors
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i'd spit if my teammates continually bombed the ball on my head in a 2-1 or 3-1 contest or constantly kicked the ball to the advantage of my opponents, especially if they were told all week not too, were told again at qtr time, and again at half time
be bloody frustrating watching the elite richmond midfield at work some times, if he was a real leader he would have given them an absolute bake after the game
Agree if Richo was playing he would have gone off multiple times at the crappy delivery
Spot on boys
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Jack be nimble
By Damian Barrett
afl.com.au
Wednesday, July 10, 2013
IT'S TIME for Richmond to unleash Jack Riewoldt.
To let him have his head, to encourage him to go looking for some "me time".
To allow him to gesticulate and arm-wave at his teammates.
To ensure he's directed a whole lot more inside-50 footy than he has been getting to this point of the 2013 season.
Riewoldt is far more a team player than many commentators acknowledge, yet at times he gives the impression he's feeling like a caged wild animal.
Coach Damien Hardwick's decision to make Riewoldt just one component of his big man options in the forward line, and not the option, is understandable and in keeping with accepted 2013 practice.
In also directing football to Tyrone Vickery, Luke McGuane and latterly Aaron Edwards, Hardwick is working toward having a versatile, unpredictable forward structure that always has opposition teams guessing.
But, with due respect to Vickery, McGuane and Edwards, they have nowhere near the football ability of the big man with whom they share Tigers' forward 50m space.
Opponents don't have the fear of god put into them when the Tigers direct inside-50 balls to those guys.
They do, though, when it heads Riewoldt's way.
Riewoldt hasn't cut loose in 2013, yet with 42 goals has just three fewer than Coleman Medal leader Josh Kennedy.
In 2013, Riewoldt's personal impact on the scoreboard is similar to the previous two seasons, managing about 20 per cent of the Tigers' score.
In 2010, when Riewoldt won his first Coleman Medal, his 78 goals equated to about 30 per cent of the Tigers' tally.
He is taking, on average, 0.6 fewer marks per match compared with 2012 figures (3.8), but 0.3 more than 2011.
This year, he has one bag of goals – seven in round two – and has twice booted five in a game.
Incredibly, Richmond directed more football to McGuane (25.4 per cent) in the nine matches he played than Riewoldt (24.1 per cent). Vickery is third with 18.2 per cent.
Since round 10, though, the Tigers have been looking for him on more occasions – Riewoldt 32.5 per cent, Vickery 18.7 per cent and Edwards 11.4 per cent.
So maybe change is already underway.
But one thing that cannot be recorded in statistical data is a player's x-Factor.
Riewoldt, more than any other Tiger, has a high X-Factor. When he's "on", he can be unstoppable.
Hardwick will obviously do with Riewoldt what he sees fit. And no doubt he is more than satisfied with how his forward structure has been ticking along in 2013.
Yet we'd suggest that, beginning this week against Gold Coast in Cairns, he removes the shackles on Riewoldt.
Then do it again the following week against Fremantle at the MCG.
The Dockers will be without their superstar defender Luke McPharlin in that game, so why not seek to put them even further out of their comfort zone?
Then the Sydney Swans await Richmond, followed by Hawthorn.
Richmond needs to do something different to what it has shown to this point of 2013 – it has been unable to defeat any team above it on the ladder - if it is to compete in that Freo-Swans-Hawks stretch.
Sixth on the ladder after 15 rounds is a significant achievement for Richmond, but there is a lot of footy left before the season can be properly judged as a success or failure.
Things could go either way from here.
Tricking things up a bit from here, including giving Riewoldt a licence to strut around as the main man, could even keep alive the outside hopes of a top-four finish.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-10/jack-be-nimble
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Thoughts? Im almost over it tbh forward line is disfunctional.
Jack always has 2 gorillas raping him though he doesnt always help his cause. Vickery is like a maniquinn on roller blades, 3rd tall is really been spare parts players in mcguane or A edwards
Midfield just roost the effin thing in there hoping for the best ::).
Midfield need to start delivering accurate and precise kicks to jack leading through the centre of fwd 50 not this out to pockets rubbish. Unleash jack from his shackles, stick a rocket up vickerys arse and lets unleash mcbean :shh
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Thoughts? Im almost over it tbh forward line is disfunctional.
Jack always has 2 gorillas raping him though he doesnt always help his cause. Vickery is like a maniquinn on roller blades, 3rd tall is really been spare parts players in mcguane or A edwards
Midfield just roost the effin thing in there hoping for the best ::).
Midfield need to start delivering accurate and precise kicks to jack leading through the centre of fwd 50 not this out to pockets rubbish. Unleash jack from his shackles, stick a rocket up vickerys arse and lets unleash mcbean :shh
Good post
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i'd spit if my teammates continually bombed the ball on my head in a 2-1 or 3-1 contest or constantly kicked the ball to the advantage of my opponents, especially if they were told all week not too, were told again at qtr time, and again at half time
be bloody frustrating watching the elite richmond midfield at work some times, if he was a real leader he would have given them an absolute bake after the game
Work it out ya stuffin princess. On a platter? Try that poo in the 70s poster boy :lol
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How about he lead more and make himself more unpredictable.
Always trying to take a speccy or wrestle with the defender.
Remember 2010 kicked 78 goals effectively from Round 8 against Hawthorn.
Statistically we are a better side and Jack though a two time Coleman winner should be a bona fide 80 plus goal kicker per season.
Case in point last yr against Nort was scragging with Scott Thompson all first half and once he started leading 3 goals in the third quarter and we get back in the game.
I'm waiting for him to replicate this 2010 footy and whilst the team first role he appears at times to be playing is sacrificial and team first maybe the team first needs to be a little selfish as well, after all which full forward isn't selfish in some way.
Might just help the team also.
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That's what Im waiting for too tb, but i'll concede its probably got to do with our overall fwd line structure which is just poo.. In 2010 when the fwd line was open and jack was leading he was a close second to buddy as the most exciting player in the comp - was unstoppable. thing is he kicks goals easier than anybody so could smash them all in the coleman if he actually played anywhere near his optimum and we played to his strengths
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Footy has changed since 2010, defences are more congested than ever. Key forwards rarely get a hold of an opposition these days. Is no surprise that the leading forward only kicks 70 a year, stuffen hard work being a ff in 2013 , simply no room to work within. For reference research how buddy has gone since 2010 :shh
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2010 was a different story. It was the Jack show, nobody to be his foil. Kicked 78 goals sure but Richmond had a poo year. We've improved every year since and Riewoldt kicks less goals. This is Hardwick's plan of course. Jack doesn't attack the ball like he did in 2010 probably because he is more closely minded, manhandled, spares sitting in his space or double/triple teaming him, and to be honest it's very clear he's been figured out by now - still a star player but better understood by his opponents now.
Jack isn't the problem. Hardwick will probably want him to kick 60-70 a year and the extra goals needs to come from Vickery hopefully putting on at least 5kg an kicking straight, and another solid forward.
A Edwards does a good job leading up etc but I don't think he'll be the long-term answer. King looks like he's playing injured as usual. Nahas is finished. McGuane was only ever a cameo/sidekick. Maybe just chuck Lids or Ellis in the F50 as they are both very good overhead marks and can finish cleanly. Vlastuin and Martin should spend more time there too. Martin is strong in the hips and takes good chest marks and Vlastuin is exceptionally confident with his goal kicking IMO and for good reason.
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
Nah hasn't got the talent to
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VIDEO on the AFL website: The best and worst of Jack Riewoldt
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-07-10/the-best-and-worst-of-jack-riewoldt
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
Nah hasn't got the talent to
He hasn't got the tank. He is plenty talented. Hence two Coleman's before 25th bday.
Jack suffers from playing along side low talent people
Mcgaune Aaron Edwards king nahas white Jackson
Etc
If jack was at Geelong or Sydney he'd be a monster
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Richo was a far superior athlete. Saw him on Monday night too, still fit not carrying any extra fat.
Jack isn't quick enough but IMO is much better by foot. Notice he has a very decent left boot anybody?
Different kettle of fish anyway. Richo taller and heavier, yet surprising so much more run in him.
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Pre being drafted many people thought jack was too fat/slow. Would go mid 40s or late draft.
Mitch Thorp, Gumbleton, Hansen were sposed to be new Wayne Careys.
Jack is never going to be a running wingman.
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Vickery is like a maniquinn on roller blades
:lol
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
Nah hasn't got the talent to
He hasn't got the tank. He is plenty talented. Hence two Coleman's before 25th bday.
Jack suffers from playing along side low talent people
Mcgaune Aaron Edwards king nahas white Jackson
Etc
If jack was at Geelong or Sydney he'd be a monster
Reckon Jack would love getting it speared at him by A. Edwards. His a great kick of the footy, best we've got
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First quarter, look at him just jogging around, no defensive pressure at all, playing for free kicks, bad body language, not leading with any form of conviction...
...and he supposedly wants $750k. Gtfo
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This guy... I actually hate this pricks demeanor on the ground, Richo was a sook but kept running himself into the ground, this guy just gives up and plods.
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
Nah hasn't got the talent to
He hasn't got the tank. He is plenty talented. Hence two Coleman's before 25th bday.
Jack suffers from playing along side low talent people
Mcgaune Aaron Edwards king nahas white Jackson
Etc
If jack was at Geelong or Sydney he'd be a monster
Reckon Jack would love getting it speared at him by A. Edwards. His a great kick of the footy, best we've got
One swallow does not make a summer
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Any chance the club could build up JR's tank so he could play on the wing ala Richo?
Nah hasn't got the talent to
He hasn't got the tank. He is plenty talented. Hence two Coleman's before 25th bday.
Jack suffers from playing along side low talent people
Mcgaune Aaron Edwards king nahas white Jackson
Etc
If jack was at Geelong or Sydney he'd be a monster
Reckon Jack would love getting it speared at him by A. Edwards. His a great kick of the footy, best we've got
One swallow does not make a summer
Makes for a hell of a good night though
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:lol
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Discuss this pricks game.
1 Goal and he's celebrating like he's the greatest thing since condoms
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
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It was a bloody good goal though how many other KPF's would have kicked a goal on their non preferred like that?, Buddy, Tippett don't think so
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Jump at the footy Jack!!!!!!! :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
No reason for posters to stop bagging him though
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
No reason for posters to stop bagging him though
so u think he had a decent game chuck?
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
No reason for posters to stop bagging him though
so u think he had a decent game chuck?
Nope ;D I liked the goal though
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
No reason for posters to stop bagging him though
so u think he had a decent game chuck?
Nope ;D I liked the goal though
:lol
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Looked much better after arnot took out his opponent
:yep.
Not a night for tall forwards with such a scrappy game.
As far as KPF's are concerned generally Jack is one of the best going in these conditions. Refer to Richmond VS Port Adelaide 2010 when Jack kicked 78 goals. Snagged 4 I think, in torrential downpour/puddles. He has excellent recovery, good hands and can kick either foot.
For me it's purely an effort thing. Not going hard like he did in 2010. Not leading, playing for frees, getting manhandled, sulking, missing sitters, big of a shadow of his former self. Pity because I love him as a Tiger but geez I just wish he'd attack the ball like he used to...
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VIDEO: Jack's goal around the corner :thumbsup
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-13/round-16-riewoldt-around-the-corner
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When Caro was on 3aw this week with Healy and Russell, one of them, while discussing Jack's contract talks, claimed Jack may be playing with an injury. Don't know where they pulled that from :huh.
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When Caro was on 3aw this week with Healy and Russell, one of them, while discussing Jack's contract talks, claimed Jack may be playing with an injury. Don't know where they pulled that from :huh.
its true
and its effecting his kicking and agility
hip ;)
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When Caro was on 3aw this week with Healy and Russell, one of them, while discussing Jack's contract talks, claimed Jack may be playing with an injury. Don't know where they pulled that from :huh.
its true
and its effecting his kicking and agility
hip ;)
Hey mate, it's not 2011 anymore.
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Back Jack
Garry Lyon
The Age
July 20, 2013
Jack Riewoldt is 24. He has played 127 games since his debut in 2007. He is the reigning Coleman medallist, having also won in 2010. In that year he won Richmond's Jack Dyer Medal, for the Tigers' best-and-fairest player and was selected in the All Australian team.
He has been Richmond's leading goalkicker for the past three years and will win it again this year. He is also a chance to win his third Coleman Medal, sitting in equal second, just four goals behind leaders Jarryd Roughead and Josh Kennedy.
It's a fair resume. And he is proving extremely durable, having not missed a game in the past four years. All of that is extremely good news for the army of Richmond supporters as they nervously stare down the possibility of competing in just their third finals series in 30 years. The bad news is, he is out of contract at the end of the year and, despite assurances that his desire is to remain a Tiger for the length of his career, and that ''good news was imminent'' on the re-signing front, the sought-after signature is yet to find its way on to the required piece of paper.
Not surprisingly, there is more than one rival club giving him something to think about. Seeking confirmation from those rival clubs that Riewoldt is on their wish list is a futile exercise. I don't blame them, but while they rightfully distance themselves from any accusation of approaching a player directly and distracting them as they fulfil their obligations to their current clubs, make no mistake that phone calls between courting clubs and player managers are regular, direct, forthright and as unambiguously enticing as they can make them.
What happens after that is a matter for the manager and the player. In some instances, the manager will have been given instruction by the player that, under no circumstances, does he want to hear about any such offers until he has finished playing out the year.
Other players will be very hands-on in the process, wanting full disclosure at all times. That makes it a little tricky when it comes to answering direct questions from the media about other club involvement, but do we really take much notice of players, chief executives, list managers or player managers when it comes to these things? As someone who occasionally asks those questions, it's more out of obligation than any expectation you'll get a straight answer. It's just a little game everyone plays until a contract is signed. With the old club or the new.
I don't know which approach Riewoldt takes to these things. But the fact is, he is a hot commodity in the football market. He may very well be on the cusp of recommitting to the Tigers, and I hope that is the case.
Full-forward, until recently, was one of only two set positions left on the playing field. It has now gone the way of the wingman, the centreman, the rover and the half-back flanker. The only true, specific role left in the game is the ruck. And if any more Mark Blicavses come along, that, too, may just get swallowed up and become known as ''mobile big man''.
Like Lance ''Buddy'' Franklin, at Hawthorn, Riewoldt spends as much time further up the ground as he does playing out of the goal square. James Podsiadly even wanders down to the back half for periods of a game, and Chris Mayne spends so much time chasing, harassing and tackling, that he could end up anywhere on the field.
So, to the question regarding Jack, given that his role has changed and he is no longer a ''pure'' full-forward: is he of as much value to the Tigers as when he kicked 78 goals three years ago as that full-forward?
And the answer coming out of Richmond seems to be a resounding ''yes''.
Damien Hardwick has been quoted as saying this has been Riewoldt's most successful season. And, at the end of the day, Hardwick's opinion is the only one that matters. Sharing the scoring load has been a priority for the Tigers for some time, lessening the reliance on Riewoldt to kick a bag for them to enjoy some success.
But when it comes to upping the ante in the contract stakes they may choose to point to his ninth-place finish in the best and fairest last year, behind Shane Edwards and first-year player Steven Morris.
His critics will point out that, of his 43 goals this year, just nine have come against the four teams that they have played in the top seven of the competition. They refer to his tendency to demonstrably allow his frustrations to spill over on occasions, with no one spared, opponents, umpires or teammates.
The Tigers play Fremantle on Sunday. The last time they played he was labelled a ''prima donna'' by former Carlton premiership player Mark Maclure, who went on to liken him to Brendan Fevola, in terms of his lack of work ethic and failure to conform.
I've had reason to criticise Riewoldt for some of his on-field remonstration, but I thought the criticism was harsh. He will not have to confront his nemesis, Luke McPharlin this time around, and the game, in front of a big Richmond crowd, provides the opportunity for some degree of redemption after the Tigers' one-point loss earlier in the year.
It is critically important that the Tigers hang on to Riewoldt. And deep down, I don't think he wants to be anywhere other than Punt Road. While negotiations continue, there will always be an element of uncertainty, but Richmond has an extremely valuable and relatively rare commodity.
His occasional petulance is more than compensated by his boundless enthusiasm, popularity among teammates and willingness to embrace and sell the virtues of a club that has not always had a great story to sell.
He is a favourite of the marauding Tiger army and, like Buddy with the Hawks, it is a massive consideration that has to be taken into account at the negotiating table.
The bottom line is, he can really play. And kick goals. And he doesn't get into trouble off the field. And he has a self-awareness that will ensure his emotions will, for most of the time, be channelled towards what is best for his football side.
Jack Riewoldt has his best football ahead of him. Considering his achievements, that's saying something. It has to be in a Richmond jumper.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/back-jack-20130719-2qa27.html#ixzz2ZWGWKDaS
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:clapping get on board boys
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:clapping get on board boys
x2
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I'm pretty sure Chuckie is Garry Lyons entertainment coordinator on his "Party Boat" cruises around Port Phillip :shh
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Jack back up to second in the Coleman race thanks to his 4 goals today :thumbsup.
Roughead 50
J.Riewoldt 47
Kennedy 47
Cloke 45
Thomas 45
Cameron 43
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Great stuff from Jack today, watched him closely the little things he does are awesome. Can't stand Dawson, he did a good number on him until Jack turned it around in the final term. :gotigers
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Still needs to get out of the habit of scragging or trying to take mark of the year.
He has the pace, agility and smarts to kick 100 goals in a season.
If he can do the basics right and play with his instinct and flair he'll trouble all backlines.
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Needs to lead more. Went missing in the second and third quarters. Fourth quarter he led a bit and took some marks FFS. Just wish he'd do it more...
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Needs to kick 120+
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:clapping get on board boys
x2
x1000
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Tiger could walk
RICHMOND is in danger of losing its star forward Jack Riewoldt with the Tigers’ forward caught in a top secret meeting last night in Melbourne.
Riewoldt and his manager, Scott Lucas, were seen holding confidential discussions with prominent player manager Liam Pickering inside Brighton’s exclusive watering hole, The Half Moon hotel.
The out of contract Tigers star is yet to put pen to paper on a new deal with the club and is investigating multi million dollar offers from rival clubs.
Riewoldt arrived at the hotel late last night dressed casually, but doing his utmost to remain inconspicuous with a hat lowered over his familiar face.
He and Lucas were seen discussing figures on a separate table to Pickering acting suspiciously while punching large sums into iPhone devices then rushing off to a quieter area of the hotel . Our spy said the trio were in regular discussion and were overheard talking $ figures and making numerous phone calls.
Pickering is a key figure in the Buddy Franklin deal acting as the Hawks star’s agent, and with Hawthorn likely to see its gun forward depart for Sydney’s new franchise, Greater Western Sydney, Riewoldt would be a highly sought after goal kicker for the Hawks.
GWS is also interested in the services of Richmond’s Riewoldt, as well as his troubled teammate Dustin Martin.
But the no.1 item on the Giants’ agenda is a deal for Buddy Franklin.
Commentator Garry Lyon called for Richmond to lock away its marketing mouthpiece in Jack Riewoldt citing it would be a travesty for the club to lose its most powerful asset.
Club CEO Brendon Gale faces an uphill battle to secure a signature and will now have his work cut out for him dealing with Lucas and an angry supporter base if Riewoldt fails to sign on the dotted line.
http://ynotmedia.wordpress.com/
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website seems legit
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website seems legit
It's Tony Sheahan, Mikes son. I think he has a bit of a Kim Hagdorn-like reputation.
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Liam Pickering is Jack's manager so the bloke got off to a good start and the "exclusive" Half Moon is Jack's local
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The only way he'll leave is if his missers is in his ear like what happened with Warwick Capper
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I'm not making up my mind until I have BJ's mail :shh
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Liam Pickering is Jack's manager so the bloke got off to a good start and the "exclusive" Half Moon is Jack's local
Hmm article says Soctt Lucas is Jack's manager" "Riewoldt and his manager, Scott Lucas...."
Jack flicked Scotty months ago to go with Liam (I supply Hutchy with bins) Pickering
A blah, blah piece :rollin
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How good did he look in the final qtr when he started leading and taking strong contested grabs on the lead? Is unstoppable when he plays like that.
Do it more often ufucken
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catch 22
the more often he does it the more ofter we'll kick it to him, the more predictable we are, the easier we are to shut down
jack is doing what richo couldn't, and that's not always going at the ball carrier
it looks poo when the other forwards just ball watch and the mids sit it on jack's head anyway, and he's always the bail out option
if dimma would let him jack would lead every time the ball came in ;)
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Makes sense Gerks :thumbsup
really important we get a quality 3rd option up forward
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Interesting post Gerka.
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catch 22
the more often he does it the more ofter we'll kick it to him, the more predictable we are, the easier we are to shut down
jack is doing what richo couldn't, and that's not always going at the ball carrier
it looks poo when the other forwards just ball watch and the mids sit it on jack's head anyway, and he's always the bail out option
if dimma would let him jack would lead every time the ball came in ;)
so to mix things up we just need jake king to take on 2 players and throw the ball on the boot 40m out? :laugh:
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as well as his troubled teammate Dustin Martin.
Leave the kid alone.
This is pure trash
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catch 22
the more often he does it the more ofter we'll kick it to him, the more predictable we are, the easier we are to shut down
jack is doing what richo couldn't, and that's not always going at the ball carrier
it looks poo when the other forwards just ball watch and the mids sit it on jack's head anyway, and he's always the bail out option
if dimma would let him jack would lead every time the ball came in ;)
;D nice theory gerks, but don't reckon its so. I'd like to think we should kick it to jack if he's that damaging and when they start dbl and triple teaming him to the point where he's cut out of the game, you would hope the mids would have half a brain to lower their eyes and go through the opponents of the loose men. Still think he hasnt worked neraly as hard as he should have
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nah that's his roll
and our mids are too stupid to not kick it to him when he's being double/triple teamed, see evidence ;D
he also doesn't have the tank to work as hard as some want, thankfully he has a big ass bag of tricks
gets judged harder than most, a bit like lids, and rfc in general
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I don't mind if that's his roll, but I just wish he didn't look so whingey about it half the time.
We need a lead-up forward anyway and I'm not banking on Ty.
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roll - verb (used without object)
1. to move along a surface by revolving or turning over and over, as a ball or a wheel.
2. to move or be moved on wheels, as a vehicle or its occupants.
3. to flow or advance in a stream or with an undulating motion, as water, waves, or smoke.
role - noun
1. a part or character played by an actor or actress.
2. proper or customary function: the forward's role in the team.
3. Sociology . the rights, obligations, and expected behaviour patterns associated with a particular social status.
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roll - verb (used without object)
1. to move along a surface by revolving or turning over and over, as a ball or a wheel.
2. to move or be moved on wheels, as a vehicle or its occupants.
3. to flow or advance in a stream or with an undulating motion, as water, waves, or smoke.
role - noun
1. a part or character played by an actor or actress.
2. proper or customary function: the forward's role in the team.
3. Sociology . the rights, obligations, and expected behaviour patterns associated with a particular social status.
:thumbsup
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roll - verb (used without object)
1. to move along a surface by revolving or turning over and over, as a ball or a wheel.
2. to move or be moved on wheels, as a vehicle or its occupants.
3. to flow or advance in a stream or with an undulating motion, as water, waves, or smoke.
role - noun
1. a part or character played by an actor or actress.
2. proper or customary function: the forward's role in the team.
3. Sociology . the rights, obligations, and expected behaviour patterns associated with a particular social status.
What about:
roll - noun
4. a type of bread used to hold hotdogs?
:-)
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Delist mcgaune
Opens a lot of cap $
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Not sure Macca is on good money this year. Was in previous seasons but he only got a 1 year deal at the end of last season didn't he? Would be on 300k tops surely
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Not sure Macca is on good money this year. Was in previous seasons but he only got a 1 year deal at the end of last season didn't he? Would be on 300k tops surely
300 = 150 jack 150 dusty
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Someone does have to replace McG on the senior list and I doubt they're going to play for free.
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cayden williams or darrou would play for min wage [senior min wage]
The reality we are struggling to resign two of our best four players is shocking given the amount of list blockers on the list
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Not sure Macca is on good money this year. Was in previous seasons but he only got a 1 year deal at the end of last season didn't he? Would be on 300k tops surely
300 = 150 jack 150 dusty
Yess Big man :clappingSomeone does have to replace McG on the senior list and I doubt they're going to play for free.
could we recruit someone from norf and pay them in expired food vouchers?? :shh
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We could do that as long as it's not one of their smarter players. Scotty McMahon almost passed grade 8 so avoid him
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cayden williams or darrou would play for min wage [senior min wage]
Senior minimum wage which includes match payments basically eats up $150k of your supposed $300k saving by getting rid of McGuane
And what are we supposed to pay all the other blokes coming out of contract not only this season but next? In 2014 we have S Edwards, Houli, Vickery, Maric
Base wage + match payments as well ??
Putting together contracts isn't just about those couple of blokes now but how it impacts over the next 2,3,4 years
The reality we are struggling to resign two of our best four players is shocking given the amount of list blockers on the list
Who said we are stuggling to sign them because of cap pressure? The media - yeah they super reliable with their info ::)
Perhaps we haven't reached agreement with them because they want unreasonable amounts of money & we aren't going to pay overs for them. Maybe that is the reality of what's happening
Or maybe just maybe their greedy little egotistical managers are posturing and therefore trying to hold the club to ransom to not just get their client more $$$$ but so get a bigger cut as well
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cayden williams or darrou would play for min wage [senior min wage]
Senior minimum wage which includes match payments basically eats up $150k of your supposed $300k saving by getting rid of McGuane
And what are we supposed to pay all the other blokes coming out of contract not only this season but next? In 2014 we have S Edwards, Houli, Vickery, Maric
Base wage + match payments as well ??
Putting together contracts isn't just about those couple of blokes now but how it impacts over the next 2,3,4 years
This
And my 2 cents, whether they sign or not. I can believe we are in a position like this where none of these blokes have given us finals campaign let alone an appearance and we look to struggle long term to fit everyone in. I was hoping we would have money to go and secure a couple of good mids, not proven A graders but quality young mids. :-\
Looks like we could end up losing some
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According to Tempeton The Rat on TFS, Jack has agreed to terms and will be putting pen to paper in the next week.
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According to Tempeton The Rat on TFS, Jack has agreed to terms and will be putting pen to paper in the next week.
Really?
What I surprise ;D :rollin
Was always going to re-sign, will happen
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Which party budged their position?
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Which party budged their position?
Not trying to be smart, but I reckon both parties have given ground, that's how these things work.
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I'm running out of things to whinge about.
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I'm running out of things to whinge about.
It's ok, you only have to wait till Sunday :whistle
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Jack Riewoldt on the verge of re-signing with Richmond, knocking back Fremantle offer
Jay Clark and Rebecca Williams
Herald Sun
July 25, 2013 8:00PM
JACK Riewoldt is certain to remain at Richmond with a new deal considered a formality.
It is understood both parties have all but agreed to terms to keep the star full-forward at Punt Rd on a multi-year deal.
A new contract for the dual-Coleman Medallist could be finalised by early next week.
Fremantle was believed to have made a huge play for Riewoldt, 24, in their bid to secure a prized key forward, after missing out on Collingwood goalkicker Travis Cloke last year.
But the passionate Tiger never harboured serious intentions of leaving Punt Rd.
The impending agreement is a major coup for Richmond as it steams towards its first finals series since 2001.
Riewoldt has kicked 47 goals this year, more than double the Tigers' next best, Jake King and Dustin Martin (18 ).
Riewoldt is third in this year's Coleman race and 10th on the club's goals records tally, with 309 majors from 128 games.
Coach Damien Hardwick expressed confidence the club would also keep out- of-contract midfield gun Martin, the only remaining unsigned player in its superstar quartet including Brett Deledio and captain Trent Cotchin.
The club has repeated its need to carefully manage its salary cap that has also had to fit in key position recruits Ivan Maric and Toy Chaplin in the past two years.
Hardwick said it was encouraging sign for the club that it no longer had to pay overs to keep its star players such as Martin and Riewoldt.
"They know that we want them at this football club and I have got no doubt that they want to stay,'' Hardwick said.
"It's just a part of the process of going through and getting the right dollar amount for everyone.
"We are probably at the stage now where we don't have to overpay our players. Where as previously when we were a struggling club, we had to keep the talent and pay them accordingly.
"We are at the stage where we have to manage our salary cap a lot better. We are certainly looking to keep our talent, but also bring talent in to help us win.
"It's a very fine balancing act and one that (head of football) Dan Richardson deals with on a constant basis.''
Asked if he would like the contract negotiations settled before the finals, Hardwick said:
"From our point of view it's not a distraction,'' he said.
"Our players are very good at maintaining their balance ... what we worry about is what is in these four walls.''
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-on-the-verge-of-re-signing-with-richmond-knocking-back-fremantle-offer/story-fniv6drm-1226685259617
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I'm running out of things to whinge about.
It's ok, you only have to wait till Sunday :whistle
Crossing the days off the calendar already :clapping
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Amazing how Chaps and Ivan have really been the difference this year, along with Stevie M, yet these young gen y pricks are whinging about the money
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Amazing how Chaps and Ivan have really been the difference this year, along with Stevie M, yet these young gen y pricks are whinging about the money
they don't need to (•))(©™, they're all contracted :rollin
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SEN reporting Jack has signed for 3 years
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SEN reporting Jack has signed for 3 years
Confirmed on RFC website
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:clapping
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Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt has signed a three-year contract extension with the Club.
This means Riewoldt will remain a Tiger until at least the end of the 2016 season
“I genuinely love this football club and all it stands for, and I’m pleased to be part of the journey we’re on,” Riewoldt said.
“I hope to repay the faith shown in me by the Club, and I’ll continue to give everything I have for the cause.”
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-26/riewoldt-resigns
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well done jacky roo! :clapping
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dusty and conca and we in business
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:clapping good boy
Gun
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FFS 30 years of signing up blokes to huge contracts FFS :banghead
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About time JR. :clapping now here's hoping he's not on 700K/year
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he's worth every penny of 700K and more
i tell you what, you go out and try and buy a top shelf KPF with 700k and see how you go coconut lmao
jay schulz is on more than that
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he's worth every penny of 700K and more
i tell you what, you go out and try and buy a top shelf KPF with 700k and see how you go coconut lmao
jay schulz is on more than that
Yep, Freo been offering more than that and keep failing . . . Cloke, Taylor, Riewoldt and they won't ger Franklin either.
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Depends what top shelf is.
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2 time coleman winner @ 24 = top shelf
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Depends what top shelf is.
the one a couple above schulzy ;) ;)
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Which is a couple above Rance from memory.
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yeah only kicked the 7 snags has Tross, 1 more and he equals Glass :cheers
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Final deal was for 7 T-shirts and some board shorts with a free pair of leftover dirty dog sunnies thrown in for his manager. ;D
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Depends what top shelf is.
Gumby. Top shelf draft pick
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the only ppl who know how much jack signed for are the tigers, jack and his manager
i dont believe he signed for 700k just cos the media think so
the media just guess and have nfi
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VIDEO: Jack's Journey - watch the career highlights of Jack Riewoldt
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-26/jacks-journey
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"Jack is an incredibly loyal person, and he has great passion for the Richmond Football Club,” said the Tigers' general manager of football, Dan Richardson.
“We are thrilled with Jack's decision, and, like a number of other players, he has committed to team success as his No.1 priority."
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has been pleased with Riewoldt's year and his ability to play a more team-oriented role as he develops his game.
"I think he's grown in stature as a player, and as a leader also," Hardwick said.
"He's just been absolutely outstanding in the way he's developed his game. We're really pleased with the way he's progressing at the moment."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-26/riewoldt-remains-a-tiger
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Next ;D
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dusty
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I hope it is 3 more years of 'good' Jack and not the other bloke. :-\ In any case he must have taken a lesser deal to stay given the mooted offers by other clubs and our conservative stance re player payments......so all in all :clapping
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Mitch Clark, $750K
Cloke, $900K
Tippett, $1M
Buddy $1.1M
And people think JR should be getting under 700K?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_Fh1JEflECXm3pcKek5XWHekgfYEYvkeFXZzEBbgv52MjEUvQiA)
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I told you the golf courses were better in Melbourne!!! :)
Now for Dusty and Conc's......... :gotigers
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I told you the golf courses were better in Melbourne!!! :)
Everything is better in melbourne.
yeah only kicked the 7 snags has Tross, 1 more and he equals Glass :cheers
Is that Glass or Boomer Glass?
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Everything is better in melbourne.
Respectfully disagree Dooks. ;D
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:clapping :clapping :clapping
Well done Jacky boy, big signing this, big statement to the players in the team and others wanting to join the club.....very happy.
Next..Martin.
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Awesome he has signed. Great work by Richo. :clapping
Now we can all look forward seeing more of this;
(http://basham.com.au/insidesauce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/jackriewoldt1.jpeg)
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^^^ the Saturday night fever pose!!
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VIDEO: Jack's Journey - watch the career highlights of Jack Riewoldt
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-26/jacks-journey
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"Jack is an incredibly loyal person, and he has great passion for the Richmond Football Club,” said the Tigers' general manager of football, Dan Richardson.
“We are thrilled with Jack's decision, and, like a number of other players, he has committed to team success as his No.1 priority."
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has been pleased with Riewoldt's year and his ability to play a more team-oriented role as he develops his game.
"I think he's grown in stature as a player, and as a leader also," Hardwick said.
"He's just been absolutely outstanding in the way he's developed his game. We're really pleased with the way he's progressing at the moment."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-26/riewoldt-remains-a-tiger
Probably took a lot less to stay :clapping
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Signed for well under market value
$650k
Apparently a selfish moo
You tossers :bow
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Ch 7 news earlier said Jack rejected a $850k p.a. over 4 years offer from Freo to stay at Richmond.
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Ch 7 news earlier said Jack rejected a $850k p.a. over 4 years offer from Freo to stay at Richmond.
which makes gerks post spot on as he apparently left 200 on the table.
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Ch 7 news earlier said Jack rejected a $850k p.a. over 4 years offer from Freo to stay at Richmond.
Ad the rest, my mail it was 1m a year x 4 + option for 5 th :shh.....nice work tigers, again :clapping
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Signed for well under market value
$650k
Apparently a selfish moo
You tossers :bow
:thumbsup
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I'll wear that.
I said he was.
I was wrong.
He earned respect
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I'll wear that.
I said he was.
I was wrong.
He earned respect
:thumbsup
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Worth 1+ :shh
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at his very best....
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VIDEO: Jack's Journey - watch the career highlights of Jack Riewoldt
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-07-26/jacks-journey
Is that Chappy getting a back full of boot at ~1.10
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and Troy Taylor only wanted a house to stay.
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I heard it was a car with no wheels.....
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:lol
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:lol
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I'll wear that.
I said he was.
I was wrong.
He earned respect
:thumbsup
double that, I now have man love for Jack ;)
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Nick Riewoldt was just on 3aw and he said Jack gets criticised for his passion but it's that passion for the Richmond footy show that is the reason he ignored bigger $$$ elsewhere and re-signed.
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He will play rubbish today - guaranteed. How often do players dish up slop the day after the back slappers climb up his bung hole for signing up.
Hope someone else in the forward line can step up
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he may play crap, but withe swans naming 4 talls down back i expect him and vickery struggle to get too many marks at all today. even if the swans move one of those big men forward to extra expose us there they will still have an extra tall down back.
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Up back is where I think Sydney are most vulnerable.
Remember last year we put scoreboard pressure on them early and led 5.6-0.2 at 1/4 time.
If we can break even in midfield I hope and have one or two step up in the forward line who knows. :shh
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Well done Jack.
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M,y estimations of jackie boy have gone through the roof. Battled manfully today.
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me too
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stuffen umpires gave him nothing, how was the biff to the head....how did the umpire miss that ::)
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the umps may suck off sydney, but that one wasn't a free.
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Rubbish, first thre was an arm chop with swans back to flight of ball then jack got contact to head with swans shoulder , how the bleedin heck is that not a free ::)...is head high contact permitted :o
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Sick of watching poowalf appeal for deliberate OOB after his opponent works himself first to the ball near the boundary line.
Week after week after week after week after week after week after week after week.....
They aren't going to pay it so lay a hard EFFING TACKLE YOU POOT :banghead
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Mark Maclure on Fox Footy's 'Open Mike'
Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
July 28, 2013 7:00PM
In an explosive opening to the show, Maclure also took aim at Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt.
“I really despise people who are selfish in our game, that’s what I really hate. And I will always have a go at that, because this is a team game,” he said.
“When you have a look at Brendon Fevola (he) never played in a (Grand) Final. Jack Riewoldt hasn’t played in a final.
“When they start playing in finals and start becoming team players, then we’ll see a different side to Jack Riewoldt. Brendan never did.”
Maclure, who savaged the dual Coleman medallist after Richmond's Round 5 loss to Fremantle, made the comments before Riewoldt penned a three-year deal to remain at Punt Rd, knocking back mega bucks from rival clubs.
“Selflessness is one of the major things in our game. Unfortunately Jack has worried about himself, at times he’s changed, but it looks like he’s gone back to it a little bit now.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/mark-maclure-tells-open-mike-jobe-watson-is-no-lance-armstrong/story-fndv8gad-1226687132583
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Perhaps someone should savage Mark Maclure for continually having a go at everything about the RFC..
Mark...stuff OFF YOU FOOL!!!
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Was being held all game
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He works at Valvoline, avoid them at all costs :shh
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Rubbish, first thre was an arm chop with swans back to flight of ball then jack got contact to head with swans shoulder , how the bleedin heck is that not a free ::)...is head high contact permitted :o
not when jack dropped his head into the shoulder during a marking contest. if the contact had been with an outstreched arm then it is a free every day of the week. Jack was outbodied and that caused him to loose balance and his head fell into the firing line. sometimes that poo happens in a contact sport.
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Sellers is really fat.
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Rubbish, first thre was an arm chop with swans back to flight of ball then jack got contact to head with swans shoulder , how the bleedin heck is that not a free ::)...is head high contact permitted :o
not when jack dropped his head into the shoulder during a marking contest. if the contact had been with an outstreched arm then it is a free every day of the week. Jack was outbodied and that caused him to loose balance and his head fell into the firing line. sometimes that poo happens in a contact sport.
According to BJ's mail Richmond should always get soft free kick. That's my mail. Mail about BJs mail
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yeah fat bald men that wear tight red jeans and fluro green reading glasses shouldn't be taken too seriously
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Jack Riewoldt has become just the second player in Tigerland history to kick 50 goals or more in four consecutive seasons.
The great Jack Titus is the only Tiger to better that achievement.
Read more here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-29/an-ace-pair-of-jacks
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He's just another Carlton person who hates Richmond because we are ahead of them and they are no good. MaClure like all Carlton people thought that Mick was the answer, he's not the answer, there list shiiite!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is this the same Mark Maclure who played for Carltank in the 80s ? The blonde haired ' look at me ' primma donna ?
Pffft ! Pot meets kettle
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Lets trade him for pick 1 while he has value ::)
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Mark Maclure is a tit.
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Is this the same Mark Maclure who played for Carltank in the 80s ? The blonde haired ' look at me ' primma donna ?
Pffft ! Pot meets kettle
Exactly Dice, never a more selfish player back in the day.
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Footy Classified put up a graphic of current key forwards. It showed we've gone inside 50 887 times this season so far with Jack ending up with it 104 times for his 50 goals and so his conversion of goals per our number of inside 50s is 5.6% which was around average. Jeremy Cameron is going at 7.4% with next best Josh Kennedy at 6.4%.
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Where did Travis Cloke come up in the graphic?
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Where did Travis Cloke come up in the graphic?
I can't remember exactly lamington but off the top of my head Cloke's was between Kennedy and Jack's.
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AUDIO: Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt joined Marko and Ox in the studio on The Run Home to discuss his contract extension and the Tigers run to the finals.
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Jack-Riewoldt-in-studio/8828
* I’m a massively loyal Richmond person. I love the Club. Ever since I walked through the doors seven years ago, I’ve bled Yellow and Black. That’s why I think I’m emotional on the field, and I know my emotion off the field can sometimes get the better of me, but that’s just through pure love of the football club. I love the workplace, my team-mates and everyone else that’s at the football club. I’m rapt to be going around again for another three years, and then hopefully again after that.
* It sort of got thrown around in the media a little bit, that I was fielding for other offers, but ultimately it was just sorting the finer details out. I had no hesitation in signing with the Club.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-31/jacks-tiger-love
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Jack Riewoldt hopes to jump Hawks and up player ratings
By Adam McNicol
afl.com.au
Thursday, August 1, 2013
RICHMOND'S Jack Riewoldt could leap back into the top five forwards in the Official AFL Player Ratings, brought to you by Vero, if he repeats his heroics of last season when the Tigers take on Hawthorn at the MCG on Saturday.
Riewoldt booted six goals when Richmond last played the Hawks in round nine, 2012.
His effort, which was worth 28.1 player ratings points, helped guide the Tigers to an impressive 62-point win.
Riewoldt, who recently signed a new contract to stay at Punt Road for another three seasons, sits sixth on the ratings table when it comes to forwards.
TOP SCORERS WHEN THIS WEEKEND'S OPPONENTS LAST MET
Hawthorn v Richmond: Round 9, 2012
1. Jack Riewoldt (28.1)
2. Dustin Martin (25.7)
3. Jarryd Roughead (24.9)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-01/blockbuster-boys
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I beg your pardon ::)
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Jack's on Ch 9's TAC Cup Future Stars right now.
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Jack's on Ch 9's TAC Cup Future Stars right now.
Got beaten in the. Shootout, lol, bloody compulsive viewing though, a natural in front of the camera :clapping
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But he kicked 3 against the hawks and that's all that matters :)
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VIDEO: Jack Riewoldt sat down with Fox Footy's David King before Saturday's game:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-08-05/riewoldt-opens-up-to-king
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Was weird watching him talk seriously :o
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With 4 matches to go ...
How many goals will Jack kick?
A third Coleman???
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With 4 matches to go ...
How many girls will Jack kick?
:lol
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With 4 matches to go ...
How many girls will Jack kick?
:lol
lol! auto-correct!
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With 4 matches to go ...
How many girls will Jack kick?
:lol
lol! auto-erotic!
:lol
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With 4 matches to go ...
How many girls will Jack kick?
:lol
lol! auto-erotic!
:lol
:lol :lol :clapping
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:lol gerks.
Did bents hack torch's account? :whistle
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jacks due for a big bag
merret may play fwd now that brown is out
this could be his week
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He can still win the Coleman. Hope he kicks 10.
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Been great this year. Sets up as many as he kicks.
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I doubt he will win the Coleman this year but he's been a poo ton better than his last two seasons. Would probably be AA FF if I was picking the side at this stage
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I doubt he will win the Coleman this year but he's been a poo ton better than his last two seasons. Would probably be AA FF if I was picking the side at this stage
+1. I suppose it would be nice for Twinkle Toes Kennedy to win the Coleman seeing as his team is poo this year
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I doubt he will win the Coleman this year but he's been a poo ton better than his last two seasons. Would probably be AA FF if I was picking the side at this stage
Agree, been better than his Coleman years. But now that he's not winning the Coleman, the AA FF spot will go to the Coleman winner. Call me skeptical. ::)
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No his first Coleman was his best year was stuffing unreal, big bags, pack marks, hangers, f50 tackles, assists, bloke tore the comp a new one
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Media under-rate him. They focus too much on his body language etc and fail to give him enough credit for his many good efforts. Showed his true character when he signed cheaply. Tiger champ.
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No his first Coleman was his best year was stuffing unreal, big bags, pack marks, hangers, f50 tackles, assists, bloke tore the comp a new one
agree, was unbelievable that year. This year has been marked improvement over last year
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No his first Coleman was his best year was stuffing unreal, big bags, pack marks, hangers, f50 tackles, assists, bloke tore the comp a new one
agree, was unbelievable that year. This year has been marked improvement over last year
X 3
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x 4 ;D
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X5
Though I've noticed Jack actually leading the last 2-3 weeks. Anybody notice that too, and how many opportunities it gets him?
So simple. Just lead...
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Has more space to lead when we play 2 tall forwards. Realised this last year when we had to go down to 2 talls
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Unselfish Jack
We hope for Jack Riewoldt's sake the Coleman Medal isn't decided by a single goal this year. The star Tiger has been lauded for his unselfish play this season, but he may have taken it a step too far on Saturday. After marking on the edge of the goalsquare in the first quarter, Riewoldt played on under pressure and handballed to teammate Luke McGuane, who streamed into an open goal. With 54 goals for the season, only five behind Eagle Josh Kennedy and Hawthorn's Jarryd Roughead, Riewoldt remains firmly in the mix for his third Coleman Medal. His only goal, a brilliant set shot on the boundary, came deep in the final quarter, but the star Tiger contributed 11 score involvements.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-10/talking-points-tigers-v-lions
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Shoulda kicked a few at least. Confidence is down.
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Who gives a stuff about the coleman?
Most of the time it's a consolation prize for the also rans.
No problem at all with jacvk dishing off goals, actually thats what you want.
his set shot kicking is a concern though. every one he missed faded to the right, so its a technical issue.
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Jack's weakness is he struggles to kick accurately beyond 35-40m. Yesterday he (like a number of his teammates) would get too close to the man on the mark trying to reduce the distance of the set shot.
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Jack's weakness is he struggles to kick accurately beyond 35-40m. Yesterday he (like a number of his teammates) would get too close to the man on the mark trying to reduce the distance of the set shot.
Form the idiot-box view, MT, it looked like Jack was laying back on the kicks and not following through. He seemed to be fading them to the right a lot more than usual.
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but he may have taken it a step too far on Saturday. After marking on the edge of the goalsquare in the first quarter, Riewoldt played on under pressure and handballed to teammate Luke McGuane, who streamed into an open goal.
This makes no sense to me. How is handballing off to a player in a better position who went into an open goal taking it too far?
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Shoulda kicked a few at least. Confidence is down.
Did anyone else think Jack looked tired yesterday? Didn't chase at times!
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Coming up after the ad break.
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Jack Riewoldt says it would be great to see Jeremy Cameron win the Coleman Medal this season
By Bruce Matthews
From: Herald Sun
August 13, 2013 11:45AM
COLEMAN Medalist Jack Riewoldt has nominated an exciting, emerging talent as his preference to win the goalkicking award this season.
Riewoldt reckons it would be great for GWS Giants' young gun Jeremy Cameron to top the AFL goalkicking list while he concentrates on more important issues in September.
"I'd like to see Jeremy Cameron win the Coleman this year. He's probably my favourite player at the moment in the competition,'' Riewoldt said on Tuesday.
"The first time I won it in 2010, obviously, it was a great honour. And I think it would do wonders for his career if he could possibly pinch it this year and All-Australian (selection) would set himself up because he's going to be a great player in the future.''
Riewoldt said he "well and truly know where I'm sitting'', six goals behind leader, West Coast's Josh Kennedy. But he's not banking on a third medal, particularly as he's often playing a different forward role in coach Damien Hardwick's weekly game plan.
"I've got a couple, I don't need any more. I'd rather have an impact and whatever I can do for us to get over the line. It's not about individual awards, it's about the four (premiership) points at the end of the day. And at the moment we're getting it done and playing pretty good footy,'' the Tiger forward said.
"It (role) definitely has changed. The last two weeks I've probably gone back to playing a little bit closer to goal. I've been playing a little bit further up the ground and it (role) definitely changes in games as well. It's whatever Damien wants me to do and what's the best fit for that time of the game or that week.''
Riewoldt would love to hit the scoreboard against Carlton at the MCG on Saturday after being goalless in the opening round win against the Blues. But he said his single contribution against Brisbane last round proved his point about the necessary forward flexibility this season.
"We've been confident where we've been going since Damien got here in 2010. But this year definitely we've been very confident of where we want to be and how we want to perform,'' he said.
"It's obviously good to know that we will be playing in September. We haven't set a ceiling on where we want to finish or anything like that. So, we won't be happy until round 23 and we know where we finish (on the ladder) and who we play in that first week of the finals.
"There's definitely a bit of a buzz around the group because there's a lot of guys here who haven't played finals. We want to finish as high as possible and get on a good roll going into September.
"We knocked Fremantle off and Hawthorn and I think we can be a real contender in September, but we still need to focus on the small things, the game plan.
"This week against Carlton is a huge game for us. Arch rivals and they showed in round 1 that they're never out of the game. We were 36 points up at three-quarter time and they came back and we only just pipped them by a goal, so we know they'll be hurting after a loss at the weekend against the Doggies and they'll come out firing.''
A reasonable run with long-term injuries has buoyed the group for a deep run in September.
"We'll look to get Dylan Grimes back possibly this week or maybe next week, Jake King is going to be touch and go (this round), Shane Edwards was a late withdrawal last week with a bit of hamstring tightness and he'll be pushing to play this week,'' Riewoldt said.
"At the moment our list is in pretty good nick. Obviously, there's Chris Knights who has been out for the year, but, touch wood, we can continue to have a pretty free run of injuries.''
Coleman Medal contenters
60 Josh Kennedy (WCE)
59 Jarryd Roughead (HAW)
58 Jeremy Cameron (GWS)
55 Travis Cloke (COL)
54 Jack Riewoldt (RIC)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-says-it-would-be-great-to-see-jeremy-cameron-win-the-coleman-medal-this-season/story-fndv8t7m-1226696228164
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I would like Twinkle Toes Kennedy to win it just so it brings a smile to every Carlton supporter
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I would like Twinkle Toes Kennedy to win it just so it brings a smile to every Carlton supporter
I would have fun at work.
:lol
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Come on twinkletoes. :lol
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I would like Twinkle Toes Kennedy to win it just so it brings a smile to every Carlton supporter
I would have fun at work.
:lol
Hey teacher leave the kids alone
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I would like Twinkle Toes Kennedy to win it just so it brings a smile to every Carlton supporter
I would have fun at work.
:lol
Hey teacher leave the kids alone
:lol
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:lol
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All those people who have been calling Jack selfish should be shown that article. Speaks volumes of his attitude regardless of how he appears occasionally on the field. Amazing talent is our Jack....just needs to find his kicking boots again :thumbsup
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Jack's mixed day
A hush went around the MCG when Jack Riewoldt came up clasping his right knee after landing awkwardly in a final-quarter marking contest. Thankfully for the Tigers Riewoldt – after receiving some treatment – returned to action. Earlier, the Tiger spearhead started with a bang by kicking two goals in the opening term and being involved in Richmond's first four score involvements, opposed to Blues youngster Josh Bootsma. After the rot had sent in, Michael Jamison was swung on to Riewoldt and played a terrific role in blanketing the Tigers star. Riewoldt did not register a goal on Jamison, who continues to fly under the radar as a key defender who gets the job done each week.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-17/talking-points-richmond-v-carlton
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Opened up Vickery though who kicked three. He had Jamison initially.
Every team has a key defender. It's like a tagger. The other dudes need to hit the scoreboard.
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Doc Larkins last night said Jack could come up this week but if Jack is still sore in the knee in a day or two then he'll be rested.
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Scans revealed no damage according to clubs website, rest him up!!
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Save him for round 23 against Essendondrugs. The more I think about it we'll play them in week 1 of the finals also just like 2001 when we played them in the final round and in our first final.
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Rest him.
McBean, Vickery and Astbury/Elton forward.
Grimes (needs leg time), Rance and Chaplin back.
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Rest him.
McBean, Vickery and Astbury/Elton forward.
Grimes (needs leg time), Rance and Chaplin back.
I dont think McBean is an option seeing they are saying he has most likely broken his ankle in the VFL yesterday
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Rest him.
McBean, Vickery and Astbury/Elton forward.
Grimes (needs leg time), Rance and Chaplin back.
I dont think McBean is an option seeing they are saying he has most likely broken his ankle in the VFL yesterday
Just give him a jab and send him out ;D
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The irony this week is Jack has played 99 consecutive games and this week would be his 100th straight if he can get up and play.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-19/top-tiger-eyes-consecutive-ton
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what do you get for playing 100 games in a row? FFS WGAF
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Rest him.
McBean, Vickery and Astbury/Elton forward.
Grimes (needs leg time), Rance and Chaplin back.
I dont think McBean is an option seeing they are saying he has most likely broken his ankle in the VFL yesterday
Just give him a jab and send him out ;D
Soft as, Tucky played with a broken shoulder FFS
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Don't mother him FFS it's not even broken. :shh
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Coleman Medal race set for final-day face-off
By Peter Ryan
afl.com.au
Tuesday, August 20, 2013
THE 2013 Coleman Medal is unlikely to be decided until the last day of the home and away season.
Riewoldt is a doubtful starter this week against Greater Western Sydney after hurting his knee against Carlton.
He kicked three goals against the Giants in 2012 and won't get it as easy as some imagine.
Despite perception, only eight players have kicked five goals or more in games against the Giants.
Riewoldt averaged 2.6 goals a game in the past five weeks and kicked two against Essendon in round nine. He looks merely a rough chance to add to his Coleman Medal tally.
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Coleman-Medal_2.jpg)
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Coleman-Medal_3.jpg)
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Coleman-Medal_1.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-20/final-day-faceoff
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Jack for 10 this week. Cameron to be slaughtered by Trossman.
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How does Cameron average 3.15 goals against us when his only played us once kicking 3 goals?
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lol at the stat innaccuracy re:3.15
If someone other than JR is going to win please let it be Twinkle Toes. I am glad Lindsay Thomas is out of the race for Coleman though.
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Yep the rest are tossers
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Wtf is up????????
They were saying something on sen about jack injury not good at all???????
Whats going on??????
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Wtf is up????????
They were saying something on sen about jack injury not good at all???????
Whats going on??????
SEN said there is Article in today's HUN that Jack may this week and the finals because he has bone bruising to his knee
Cannot find the article on-line
But the HUN web-site like the Age's seems to have been hi-jacked by the EFC scandal
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SEN saying that Jack wont play again this year???
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Give him the last 2 weeks off, we'll win them both anyway.
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SEN saying that Jack wont play again this year???
They didn't say WON'T they said MIGHT not play agian this year
Used the Waite injury (bone bruising) as an example - he had bone bruising and missed 5 weeks
I am still baffled as to why they bothered sending him back on after it happened on Saturday - game was gone no need to send him back out there IMV
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We are about to learn just how valuable this guy is to us.
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We are about to learn just how valuable this guy is to us.
Think you maybe right Coach
Also think if Jack misses it is going to tell us lot about Vickery too
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And no McBean to try out, so it look like McGuane is safe and Astbury might go forward.
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And no McBean to try out, so it look like McGuane is safe and Astbury might go forward.
Edwards A or Griffiths are the most likely I would think with Edwards A a fare way in front
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waite is made of butter , cant compare his his rate of recovery to other players
richo was one guy that had a very fast healing recovery rate, lets hope jack is more like richo
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Elton
Griffiths
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Jack Riewoldt in doubt for finals with bone bruising on his knee
Bruce Matthews •
Herald Sun •
August 22, 2013 9:55AM
RICHMOND goalkicking ace Jack Riewoldt may struggle to play again this season.
Riewoldt is expected to be left at home when the Tigers play Greater Western Sydney in Sydney on Sunday.
And the rate of recovery from bone bruising in his right knee will determine if he is ready for the last home-and-away round against Essendon ... and the first week of the finals.
While Riewoldt escaped structural damage after hyperextending the knee in a marking contest in the last quarter against Carlton on Saturday, he is battling soreness and swelling.
A leading sports doctor said this week: "Riewoldt is likely to have significant bone bruising and swelling and soreness, particularly at the back of his knee, and would benefit from time off this week."
Carlton forward Jarrad Waite took five weeks to recover from bone bruising in a knee.
Waite also avoided ligament and cartilage damage during the Blues' loss to Collingwood in Round 15. But he had to sit out the next four rounds and did not return until two weeks ago.
The Tigers must try to regroup from Riewoldt's injury and what midfielder Brett Deledio this week described as "a good clip behind the ears" in their shock loss to the Blues.
"Our first quarter against Carlton was probably some of the best footy I've seen us play. But we certainly have taken our foot off the pedal," Deledio told the Richmond website.
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"Some of our defensive stuff that we put up on the weekend was really poor and quite embarrassing.
"The coach and coaching staff have pointed that out to us ... you don't like seeing that sort of stuff, no one really does.
"But it was a good clip behind the ears coming into finals, to really make sure that we're playing our best footy going in there and not just scraping through."
How ruckman Matthew Kreuzer (calf) and lively forward Jeff Garlett (buttock) pull up today after yesterday's main training session will decide whether they return for Carlton's must-win game against Essendon on Saturday night.
And there's still hope Chris Judd (strained medial ligament) may play again despite the Blues initially ruling him out for the season.
"If we play finals, he's some chance of coming back," Blues football operations manager Andrew McKay said. "Even if we do get in the finals, his availability is going to depend on how quickly he recovers once he's out of the brace."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-in-doubt-for-finals-with-bone-bruising-on-his-knee/story-fni5f9jb-1226701854371
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Dimma has dismissed the Hun article. Called the report about him misses games "premature" and that Jack's "fine". Jack will train today and we'll see how he pulls up.
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He's out there now in full training FWIW.
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Thanks RFCO :cheers.
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has expressed confidence that Jack Riewoldt will be available for Sunday's clash against Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-a-chance-to-play-against-gws-despite-knee-injury-fears/story-fni5f9jc-1226701854371
Riewoldt fine for finals: Richmond
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/riewoldt-fine-for-finals-richmond-20130822-2sdfk.html
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Bone bruising is very playable, will just have a few jabs if they want him to play :thumbsup.
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I have an impeccable source on this one. Jack is fine. Could even play this week , if not , definitely next week.
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Hope he plays kicks 9 and wins the coleman to go with his 2013 premiership medallion!!!!
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I got a feeling its going to be a mgaune plus Aaron Edwards forward line 8)
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Jack's playing this week.
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I got a feeling its going to be a mgaune plus Aaron Edwards forward line 8)
Power and Grunt
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The most famous knee in footy at the minute ...
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gp/177189924.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=3&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QdeSUb5DwRHnlCXoAMNTDihsxijERm84cjGZ66T2qlM9)
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/177186079-jack-riewoldt-of-the-tigers-drags-his-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QVS3g6QHCK%2bS7aiqNfj3EYrvgzFqG%2bS0%2bUJOQLl83iMIddDsqRWT36dB9BLvAqousg%3d%3d)
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/detail-of-the-injured-leg-of-jack-riewoldt-of-the-tigers-news-photo/177189924
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Unlikely but if we contain Cameron to no more than 2 goals and Roughead doesn't kick too many then Jack is still a show for the Coleman if he can kick straight and kick a bag. Kennedy got zip tonight while Cloke on 61 just 5 goals ahead of Jack.
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1. He's a freak player
2. If there's no structural damage why does he need strapping? ::)
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Looks like he ripped the strapping off in the 2nd quarter.
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Looked a bit sulky today IMO.
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Looked a bit sulky today IMO.
Was jot impressed with the multicultural food stalls, all he wanted was a hot dog and a coke :whistle
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If Essendon are stripped of points I would rest him next week. Wasn't moving freely IMHO. If we are any chance in the finals we need his creativity and skills at full strength. Was more petchelent than normal today. May have been frustrated with his knee?!???
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The knee is a crock IMO. At the start of the week he apparently had bone bruising and was to miss 2+ weeks. Took the strapping off after the first quarter and while wasn't 100% he still competed. He'll train lightly and take the best defender again next week and we'll just have to try and score via other avenues like we did today.
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Bone bruising hurts. Playing on it doesn't really make it worse. May as well play, keep the fitness up.
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No wonder he's always angry. The forward line delivery is woeful at times.
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No wonder he's always angry. The forward line delivery is woeful at times.
Was today >:( The delivery from our mids was flying straight over his head and through the goals ;D
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No wonder he's always angry. The forward line delivery is woeful at times.
Was today >:( The delivery from our mids was flying straight over his head and through the goals ;D
:lol
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Still think he should of been rested for this game.
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Sooked it right up. Anyone see the song? Did he do his "go you tigers" thing? Was he still sooking up?
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Sooked it right up. Anyone see the song? Did he do his "go you tigers" thing? Was he still sooking up?
Kingy did it. Stole it off him and he sooked it. :lol
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Bloody sook ;D
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Jack did it and was smiling big.
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Jack did it and was smiling big.
I was positive Kingy yelled it out before him?
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Jack did it and was smiling big.
I was positive Kingy yelled it out before him?
The truth needs to come out
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You're right, it was Kingy.
Jack was at least smiling though, the sook...
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Jack Riewoldt directly involved for the most goals in the AFL competition
He now leads the AFL for assists as of yesterday.
57 goals and 26 assists which places him at 83 goals he's been directly involved in. Roughead at 64 goals and 17 assists is second I believe.
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selfish
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You're right, it was Kingy.
Jack was at least smiling though, the sook...
Bloody outrageous that Kingy would do that. Definitely would have sooked it on the inside. Sookiest sook that ever sooked. :banghead
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For all the claims by some in the media (hello Maclure) that Jack is selfish, Jack now leads the AFL in goal assists with 26 (meaning he's contributed to 83 goals of our goals this season).
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2013&rt=LT&st=GA
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For all the claims by some in the media (hello Maclure) that Jack is selfish, Jack now leads the AFL in goal assists with 26 (meaning he's contributed to 83 goals of our goals this season).
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2013&rt=LT&st=GA
:clapping
Jack has excellent awareness. One step ahead of anyone else up forward.
P. S ....but I'm still not over the loss to Carlscum. :banghead
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Apparently not playing due to a 'back' issue.
Pretty sure it's safe to assume management rather than injury.
Any more info anybody?
Out:
Riewoldt (back)
S Edwards (susp)
In:
Tuck (F yes)
Stephenson
So we'll have Maric, Big O and Vicks in the same team. Hopefully make mincemeat of Ryder and Hill but I predict Vicks will stick to the F50 in the absence of Jack and O is likely in to rest Maric a bit and get some run in his legs in case he's needed come finals.
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The same Footy Classified reporter interviewed Jack as well today and Jack said his back is fine, it's more his knee. Like Newy, he would've played on the weekend if it had been a final. It was his call to play against GWS; he didn't pull up as well as he hoped so the he and the medical staff decided to have a week off as it wasn't a final and the boys got the job done anyway without him.
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VIDEO: Jack talking about the off-season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-18/riewoldt-on-offseason
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VIDEO: Jack talking about the off-season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-18/riewoldt-on-offseason
* It’s been great to get away from the Club and away from the football environment, which, as players, we definitely need to do. I’ll be in rehab. for a little bit, because I’ve had a couple of bits of surgery - just a minor knee operation and a small hip operation as well. It’s just the sort of stuff that’s really clean-ups, which most players go through during their careers.
* They came back in great nick, and it’s a credit to those guys, wanting to improve from last season. Obviously, it (the 2013 season) finished in a disappointing way. It’s hurt a lot of guys and it’s something that we’ll use as a bit of a thing to spur us on during the pre-season and heading into next year.
Read full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-18/riewoldt-raring-to-go
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The players set for new roles in 2014
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
January 7, 2014
RICHMOND
JACK RIEWOLDT (134 games)
The star goalkicker moved further from goal in 2013, roaming up the ground in an effort to create space for his teammates and give the Tigers a less predictable forward line. In 2014, however, coach Damien Hardwick has predicted a stable role for Riewoldt in a traditional centre half-forward post. A two-time Coleman medallist, Riewoldt kicked 78 goals in 2010 and 65 goals in 2012. His scoreboard output dropped to 58 goals last season, but he led the team for goal assists. Hardwick expects to have a forward line stocked with tall options Ty Vickery, Shaun Hampson and youngster Liam McBean next season, and by using Riewoldt at centre half-forward he could still contribute 30-40 goals while using his creativity and marking ability to set up many more.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-07/same-faces-new-roles
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The players set for new roles in 2014
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
January 7, 2014
RICHMOND
JACK RIEWOLDT (134 games)
The star goalkicker moved further from goal in 2013, roaming up the ground in an effort to create space for his teammates and give the Tigers a less predictable forward line. In 2014, however, coach Damien Hardwick has predicted a stable role for Riewoldt in a traditional centre half-forward post. A two-time Coleman medallist, Riewoldt kicked 78 goals in 2010 and 65 goals in 2012. His scoreboard output dropped to 58 goals last season, but he led the team for goal assists. Hardwick expects to have a forward line stocked with tall options Ty Vickery, Shaun Hampson and youngster Liam McBean next season, and by using Riewoldt at centre half-forward he could still contribute 30-40 goals while using his creativity and marking ability to set up many more.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-07/same-faces-new-roles
While Jack has good passing skills for a KPP so he is useful kicking inside forward 50, he's not a long booming kick for goal (accuracy range is barely 40m) to be playing too far away from the goals. He's not built like a traditional CHF either. IMO he's still more a natural FF - not only on the lead but it's where his creativity and footy smarts at ground level gets him and us goals.
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The players set for new roles in 2014
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
January 7, 2014
RICHMOND
JACK RIEWOLDT (134 games)
The star goalkicker moved further from goal in 2013, roaming up the ground in an effort to create space for his teammates and give the Tigers a less predictable forward line. In 2014, however, coach Damien Hardwick has predicted a stable role for Riewoldt in a traditional centre half-forward post. A two-time Coleman medallist, Riewoldt kicked 78 goals in 2010 and 65 goals in 2012. His scoreboard output dropped to 58 goals last season, but he led the team for goal assists. Hardwick expects to have a forward line stocked with tall options Ty Vickery, Shaun Hampson and youngster Liam McBean next season, and by using Riewoldt at centre half-forward he could still contribute 30-40 goals while using his creativity and marking ability to set up many more.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-07/same-faces-new-roles
While Jack has good passing skills for a KPP so he is useful kicking inside forward 50, he's not a long booming kick for goal (accuracy range is barely 40m) to be playing too far away from the goals. He's not built like a traditional CHF either. IMO he's still more a natural FF - not only on the lead but it's where his creativity and footy smarts at ground level gets him and us goals.
I agree but I can't really see who else is good enough to play at CHF at this stage. He'll either have to play deep -which would defeat the purpose- or dish it off to one of our longer kicks. Griffiths & Vickery have the tools but the former is is too soft , the latter too lazy, Elton's a long way off and can't kick a goal to save himself, McBean too skinny right now, current strengths are better suited to other positions and not sure of his range. S.Edwards there is a joke.
In a perfect world Jack would be playing in a forward pocket or FF. Think we have a couple of mids who can play CHF in Martin and Ellis. Martin has the strengths, smarts & range and Ellis has the smarts and marking ability. Plays tall. Both have the agility and reasonable enough pace for the position. Deledio can do it at a pinch too. Obviously none of those three would be permanent fixtures there and only rotate through. Who knows, maybe even Lennon could end up there.
Very hard to find a quality CHF - they don't call it the hardest position on the ground for nothing. There's a reason the few who've truly excelled there are among the most remembered & revered in the game. Operation Get Cameron 2016.
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Does anyone else think Jack needs to put on a bit more size/muscle? Not so much that he can barely move, but some. On the RFC website it says he is 195cm tall and 94kg. Whether he plays FF or CHF I would like him to put on another 3,4,5kgs.
He plays on guys heavier than him so I just think with all the one on one stuff he does, a bit more muscle would help.
Troy Chaplin is by no means a man mountain but he is 195cm tall and 99kg and still very agile.
Also with that extra muscle, when a few niggles start to set in toward the end of the year and everyone slows down that little bit, Jack with a bit more muscle would be able to play a bit deeper and not have to lead ALL the time (not that he does)
To look at him his arms and chest are still a HFF size.
Thoughts??
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Does anyone else think Jack needs to put on a bit more size/muscle? Not so much that he can barely move. On the RFC website it says he is 195cm tall and 94kg. Whether he plays FF or CHF I would like him to put on another 3,4,5kgs.
He plays on guys heavier than him so I just think with all the one on one stuff he does, a bit more muscle would help.
Troy Chaplin is by no means a man mountain but he is 195cm tall and 99kg and still very agile.
Also with that extra muscle, when a few niggles start to set in toward the end of the year and everyone slows down that little bit, Jack with a bit more muscle would be able to play a bit deeper and not have to lead ALL the time (not that he does)
To look at him his arms and chest are still a HFF size.
Thoughts??
He's losing weight on purpose this year. Apparently the next Carey CHF
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Does anyone else think Jack needs to put on a bit more size/muscle? Not so much that he can barely move. On the RFC website it says he is 195cm tall and 94kg. Whether he plays FF or CHF I would like him to put on another 3,4,5kgs.
He plays on guys heavier than him so I just think with all the one on one stuff he does, a bit more muscle would help.
Troy Chaplin is by no means a man mountain but he is 195cm tall and 99kg and still very agile.
Also with that extra muscle, when a few niggles start to set in toward the end of the year and everyone slows down that little bit, Jack with a bit more muscle would be able to play a bit deeper and not have to lead ALL the time (not that he does)
To look at him his arms and chest are still a HFF size.
Thoughts??
He's losing weight on purpose this year. Apparently the next Carey CHF
He needs to step into the Carey roll now McGuane has gone.....
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He's not a CHF. His size is suitable for what he does.
Need a KPF with big hips. Look at the hips on Chaplin. Bigger. More power.
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His weight loss does worry me a bit actually, if he is going to play across CHF and be a moving target more regularly than he has been it may be ok. But if he is forced to compete one on one he will struggle like he did a couple of years ago. He used to get out positioned/muscled because of his slender frame, when he bulked up he could really stand his ground and win the duels. I wonder now how he would go against Gibson one on one for example... :-\
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Sounds like rubbish as it's a stack of weight to lose especially for a footballer but 3aw's 'Rumour File' was claiming Jack had lost 7kg since last season.
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Sounds like rubbish as it's a stack of weight to lose especially for a footballer but 3aw's 'Rumour File' was claiming Jack had lost 7kg since last season.
Hopefully it's off his head
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He should've put on 7 kilos of muscle instead of losing 7. He'd outmuscle anyone that way and just leave him forward
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Sounds like rubbish as it's a stack of weight to lose especially for a footballer but 3aw's 'Rumour File' was claiming Jack had lost 7kg since last season.
Not really rubbish IMO, have a look at him, its gone too far for mine, he actually looks ill.
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Don't know about now, but early in his career the club saw him ultimately as a fwd that would float between the FF and CHF, smart player that could exploit that space. He then evolved into a gun FF - I wonder if now with Mcbean, Griff, Vick maturing and almost being physically ready to have a crack at holding down the 2 key fwd posts, that they are looking to play him in that type of role? My sister in law saw him down at brighton recently and said she couldn't believe how slim he looked
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Get on him for the Brownlow
it's no coincidence that Plugger has a dishlicker called Jacky Boy :clapping
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This stinks of the Richo pre season weight gain thing in 2002. Didn't work
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Slimline Jack burns up the track
afl.com.au
January 17, 2014 1:25 PM
A slimmer Jack Riewoldt has boosted his running capacity as he looks to reach full fitness ahead of the Club’s pre-season campaign.
The 25-year-old has trimmed from his normal mid-90kgs playing weight, and is keeping up with some of the club's best-running talls on the track.
Riewoldt has been diligent in his rehabilitation from minor knee and hip surgery and looked strong in Friday's post-training running session.
Coach Damien Hardwick has already spoken of a desire to play Riewoldt further up the ground as a "traditional centre half-forward", which will be helped by the spearhead's improved fitness.
"I think he's had a real focus on what he's eating and also his training," captain Trent Cotchin said after the hit-out.
"He hasn't missed a beat with his rehab program and now he's joining into training.
"He looks fit, he's running with some of our better bigger blokes with their running capacity, so it's exciting - we'll just have to wait and see how he plays."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-17/jack-burns-the-track
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Apparently lost all the weight doing laps of Lord Klim's pool
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Oh well let's hope it works, maybe he will end up on the wing like Richo did.......God I miss him.. :'(
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apparently has no tank :shh 8)
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Well he won't be getting a game with the Demons :shh
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apparently has no tank :shh 8)
#January premiers. He's keeping up with some of the clubs best running talls. Assberry is one of those.
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So he was 94kg. And they've decided he should lose weight.
Hopefully he finds some leg speed so he can get a break on the lead. Won't be winning and wrestles at 90kg.
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Will be playing around the 40m+ meter mark. Don't be putting any money down on him to win the Coleman this year but expect his goal assist numbers to go through the roof. I'm expecting Vickery to become our number one goal scorer next year. Jack will be hard to contain and defend in 2014. :cheers
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Jack's tweet about the cricket tonight was shown on the coverage and Ponting said Jack has lost around 8-9kg since last season :-\.
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Jack's tweet about the cricket tonight was shown on the coverage and Ponting said Jack has lost around 8-9kg since last season :-\.
Norf supporter :D did he mention how many kilos Ziebell lost?
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ziebell lost his dog while eating a hamburger
work that out
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I hope these geezers know what they're doing. The lad is clearly a FF.
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i'm wondering if taking the weight off has anything to do with his troublesome knees/hips that he always seems to need surgery on post season
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i'm wondering if taking the weight off has anything to do with his troublesome knees/hips that he always seems to need surgery on post season
Yeah thought the same thing re his hip problems, also he's had a few ankle problems in the last 12 months too.
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can you still wrestle in the AFL? i've been watching an almost non-contact sport for years? maybe i'm thinking of netball?
jack gonna gun it bros
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The funny thing is that when Jack tries to wrestle, he fails, and everyone jumps up and down saying how he should get on his bike and lead rather than wrestling.
Now we are getting complaints that by losing weight he wont be able to hold his own in those same wrestling contests anymore.
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that's because people are idiots
jack would win 75+% of the wrestles they complain about as well
:lol
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that's because people are idiots
jack would win 75+% of the wrestles they complain about as well
:lol
he doesn't win poo when wrestling :) Is at his best when he forgets about opponent and just runs and jumps at the ball, takes a strong mark that way even under duress, but standing body on body he rarely plucks it ala Cloke, Pav, J.Brown
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he plucks em all the time man, you're drunk
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I agree with Tony.
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If he isn't plucking them he's clunking them
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Our football department hasn't done much wrong the last few years we need to trust them on this and dusty thing.
I reckon jack might just prove a gun CHF if that's where hes going to play..Hes a great mark,fast,creative,and a good kick
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In two words - Consistently problematic
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Consistently unfit/emotional
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Consistently winning Coleman medals
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Consistently pointing
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Consistently, emotionally Cross dressing.
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Consistently Congesting.
Yeah and you KNOW it >:(
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Took sacred cow Richardson until 2007 to work as hard as Riewoldt does.
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Took sacred cow Richardson until 2007 to work as hard as Riewoldt does.
What a croc of poo
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Working hard? I guess if you mean:-
1) lead to the boundary line to disadvantage the team
2) Wrestle your bigger opponent as the ball drops in
3) be out postioned and lose the contest
4) ball dripples out/is cleared by less skillful opponent.
5) point finger and yell at teammates for your mistake.
6) run onto a chance goal in the hotspot as the ball is cleared and delivered to your advantage
7) repeat 30 times per game which you will stuff up 90% of the time
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Working hard? I guess if you mean:-
1) lead to the boundary line to disadvantage the team
2) Wrestle your bigger opponent as the ball drops in
3) be out postioned and lose the contest
4) ball dripples out/is cleared by less skillful opponent.
5) point finger and yell at teammates for your mistake.
6) run onto a chance goal in the hotspot as the ball is cleared and delivered to your advantage
7) repeat 30 times per game which you will stuff up 90% of the time
Add "never even attempt a second effort ever" and that's Richo 93- 06 perfectly summed up.
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Footy transformations part two: See AFL stars before they were famous
Staff writers
From: News Limited Network
February 26, 2014
Here are more pics of AFL stars before they hit the big time - and the gym.
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/02/26/1226838/101711-b0edd40a-9db9-11e3-b2ad-08c02f4f904c.jpg)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/footy-transformations-part-two-see-afl-stars-before-they-were-famous/story-fndv7pj3-1226838102571
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See McBean, it can be done...
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See McBean, it can be done...
Hasn't he already cut his hair?
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See McBean, it can be done...
Depending on which version of starting (drafted) weight you choose to believe he has put on either 7 or 9kgs in his first season. Isn't that good enough for you? A repeat of that effort will see him at 100kgs to start 2015 - his 3rd season.
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See McBean, it can be done...
Depending on which version of starting (drafted) weight you choose to believe he has put on either 7 or 9kgs in his first season. Isn't that good enough for you? A repeat of that effort will see him at 100kgs to start 2015 - his 3rd season.
Not sure Smokey if that weight will do for the 40 goal minimum target for the beaner this year in First grade. Can you juggle those weight figures around a bit.
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I won't be happy until he is big enough to play OL in the NFL.
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Prima donna, drama queen and football’s Jana Pittman ... Everything Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt is not.
Sam Edmund
Herald Sun
February 28, 2014 6:58PM
Is Jack Riewoldt a victim of tall poppy syndrome?
JACK Riewoldt loosely leans over his ball on the seventh tee at California’s world-famous Pebble Beach Golf Links.
The Pacific Ocean waves pound the surrounding cliffs as he prepares to attack the green on the windy par 3.
He makes good contact, his ball sailing towards a pin surrounded by six bunkers.
To the amazement of at least two witnesses, the ball bounces several times before diving into the hole. It’s a phenomenal feat — a hole-in-one on one of the most beautiful and challenging courses on the planet.
It’s a shot that elevates Riewoldt into elite golf company, with American great Tom Weiskopf acing the same hole way back in the 1982 US Open.
Unfortunately for Jack, he is staring at a giant projector screen some 13,000km from the real Pebble Beach on an X-Golf simulator at Malvern’s House of Golf.
Welcome to Riewoldt’s sanctuary; a place where he can escape the ever-increasing public glare. Sadly, escaping is something he has felt the need to do a bit of lately.
After falling out of Richmond’s leadership group, a self-imposed media ban has again drawn down the magnifying glass on a character who polarises opinion like few others.
Those who know him insist you couldn’t find a more genuine bloke; one who cares enormously for his teammates, is generous to his friends and lives and plays with passion. Passion — it’s a word you hear a lot when asking about Riewoldt.
Many who don’t know him use words like “prima donna”, “drama queen” and “football’s Jana Pittman” to discuss the matchwinning forward.
How the court of public opinion can be so dramatically different from that shared by Riewoldt’s inner circle is a mystery. But speak to enough people and you realise Riewoldt may be the most harshly judged and misunderstood man in football.
Everyone knows Riewoldt the footballer — two Coleman medals, an All-Australian, best-and-fairest and his club’s leading goalkicker in each of the past four years.
Riewoldt the person is a golf fanatic who plays off a handicap of four. He loves his hometown Hobart Hurricanes, the NFL, basketball, horse racing and just about any other sport out there.
He is more partial to a good red than a beer and he’s a keen Triple J listener. His support comes in no stronger form than childhood sweetheart Carly Ziegler, with the couple together since high school.
But on breakfast radio last month, Riewoldt appeared on his Gold FM slot to announce he was taking a vow of silence, upset at the reaction to him falling out of Richmond’s leadership group at the expense of Troy Chaplin.
“I won’t be doing any media at all, I’m sacking The Footy Show, I’m not doing Gold,” Riewoldt declared.
“Something I’ve really struggled with ... is really how I’ve been portrayed in the media. I’ve taken it upon myself to make my own decision that if I can’t be portrayed the way I want to be portrayed, then I’ll give it a miss.
“He (Chaplin) didn’t get the recognition he deserved from the media and from the outside world, so that was the thing that sort of cut me a little bit deep.”
The announcement sparked more ridicule for a player who has previously been criticised for his on-field body language.
Former player turned commentator Dwayne Russell didn’t hold back.
“Has Jack assessed this one bang on and do we get it wrong in the media? ... Or is this just another move from a drama queen and is Jack football’s new Jana Pittman?” Russell asked on 3AW.
“Can anything normal happen with Jack? It’s always a drama. Everything is bigger than it needs to be.”
To those who call Riewoldt a friend, his anger over the media’s oversight of Chaplin wasn’t a hollow statement. They say his care for his teammates is as sincere as it is genuine.
Shane Tuck shared a Tigers changeroom with Riewoldt for seven years. Asked who the real Riewoldt was, Tuck didn’t hesitate.
“We were on a pre-season camp and there were eight blokes in a room and I was as crook as a dog. I got some sort of virus up in Cairns and I woke up through the night spewing and I spewed all over my bed,” Tuck recalled.
“Jack was the only one who got up and helped me and we got down to the bathroom which was outside, 50m away. He sat with me during the night and got me something to eat and drink.
“I wasn’t expecting anyone to help me. How many blokes are willing to clean your spew up? He does have genuine care for his teammates and people misconstrue it because he’s a highly competitive person. I’ve seen him with kids, at clinics, at hospitals visiting people with cancer and people don’t put that in the papers sometimes.”
Former Tiger Sam Lonergan played in Tasmanian state teams with Riewoldt before both graduated to the AFL.
“He was the same back then and he has always been a very caring person. When he plays people just see a different thing,” Lonergan said.
“Sometimes when you’ve got that profile, people only see one thing. Jack is a rag character. He’s a good person, but he’s personality is very open and confident and that can be misinterpreted.”
But it’s the passion, seemingly hardwired into Riewoldt, that has caused him trouble inside the fence.
His excellent career has been pot-holed by look-away-now moments, from berating teammates to arguing with club officials.
Last year commentator Mark Maclure savaged Riewoldt for his body language.
“Jack Riewoldt, fair dinkum. What a prima donna. It’s about time he actually stood up himself and did something,” Maclure said.
“It has to be fixed by his peers. That’s his biggest problem. Are they strong enough to control him? He is totally in control of that club. (Brett) Deledio and (Trent) Cotchin have to handle this bloke. They have to change this guy and they have to make him one of them, because at the moment he’s not.’’
Maclure wouldn’t comment this week, but said his comments were based on years of watching Riewoldt closely.
Analyst and former Richmond assistant coach David King said Riewoldt’s emotional nature wasn’t suited to leadership.
“He doesn’t hide anything, he wears it on his sleeve and you can see how he’s feeling at all times,” King said.
“For those who know him they understand that’s Jack and they take it for what it is. In terms of being a leader that doesn’t go hand in hand. He’s not a rogue, but I can understand why he’s not in the leadership group.”
One of his Tassie mates, Brett Geappen, puts it like this: “He can rub blokes up the wrong way, but he’s so passionate it’s ridiculous.
“I reckon it’s his biggest strength. He’s like an 18-year-old kid in an AFL club in the sense that he’s so passionate and so bubbly. I’m obviously not with him at Richmond, but the blokes in that inner circle would know how passionate and keen he is. “
Richard Mulligan, the chief executive of the Clarence Football Club at which Riewoldt’s star started to rise, described it as “straight out passion”.
“He’s not an offensive person, but he pushes the envelope in a lot of ways. As a kid he was always the practical joker and if there was someone who was going to have one more drink than perhaps they should ...,” Mulligan said.
“But he wasn’t a bad kid, he was just a very spirited, happy, confident young man and I think half the trouble is he’s so confident a lot of people think it’s arrogance.”
Perhaps, when the gaze of the football world falls upon him, it’s a case of passion mistaken for petulance.
He cares what people think. Some say perhaps too much. Insiders say he was hurt when he didn’t make Mike Sheahan’s top 50 and in the wake of Maclure’s criticism he contacted the commentator and asked to catch up for a chat. Certainly, the obsession with him being “dumped” from the leadership group affected him.
Nick Dastey has chatted to Riewoldt often enough at the Long Island Golf Club he manages to be left angry when he hears Riewoldt talked of as a destructive diva.
“To be honest, it frustrates me so I can’t imagine how much it frustrates him. I couldn’t imagine any of those comments being further from the truth,” Dastey said.
“I would hate to be him in that situation because every time you read it, see it, or sitting in the car hearing it, he must just think, ‘Gee, that’s not the way I am. How does it come across like that?’”
You get the impression long-time Richmond coterie member Brian McCue could talk uninterrupted for an hour about Riewoldt’s qualities.
“This is one of the nicest people ... nothing is ever too much,” McCue said.
“The Jack I see people writing about is not the Jack I know. Yes, his body language isn’t great at times, but it’s born out of passion and you know if he mucked up he’d spend the whole week apologising.”
Riewoldt’s media ban appears to extend to the social variety. His 50,000 Twitter followers haven’t heard from him since February 11.
His profile photo is of a bunch of mates having a laugh. Jack is at the very back — you have to look closely to find him. It’s not the sort of photo you would associate with a self-obsessed “prima donna”.
But the last word has to go to one of his best mates. Few know Riewoldt better than Mitch McPherson after the pair met in their early teens.
McPherson lost his 18-year-old brother Ty to suicide last January and launched not-for-profit organisation “Stay ChatTY”. McPherson and a group of friends recently ran 328km from Burnie to Hobart to raise awareness for youth suicide.
Who was waiting for them at the finish line? Riewoldt, who despite being in the middle of pre-season, flew down to show support.
“He was happy to speak to the news down here and pose for photos, sign autographs and then he came to the function as well. His generosity is amazing in all sorts of ways,” McPherson said.
“He’s a great fella and a good friend and he was one of the first people to call me when we lost Ty and he was down at the funeral. The other night at the function he put money on the bar and he didn’t want me to say anything either.
“He’s not a show pony. We speak about that criticism of him all the time, us boys down here. He’s just not that sort of person.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/prima-donna-drama-queen-and-footballs-jana-pittman-everything-richmonds-jack-riewoldt-is-not/story-fni5f9jb-1226841171483 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/prima-donna-drama-queen-and-footballs-jana-pittman-everything-richmonds-jack-riewoldt-is-not/story-fni5f9jb-1226841171483)
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#standbyflogs
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Good article, RFC backing their boy by getting a feel good story out there. I'm feeling a bit Bojangles right now :clapping
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He just needs to stop telling the umpires and team mates off and the cameras that continuously follow him hoping for this behaviour will soon have to aim elsewhere. All perception born from body language and the mantle of being our new forward following Richo
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A lot of the time he is directing (leading) his team mates: where to run. How to zone. I assume reinforcing the game plan people are not adhering to. Not often does he crack it due to a rubbish kick or him not being the target. I'd argue he is smarter than most players in regards to footy smarts. Unselfish too is. Gives of assists. Reasonably tough to argue against in the clubs most important four alongside lids chimp dusty
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Durable, skillful, clever, unselfish, and loyal. Yet some 'fans' chose to hate on him because he carries on a bit every now and then.
I actually like that he's a bit of a dill. One of the few characters in a league full of metro robots.
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Every team has a multitude of characters in it, but good teams make sure that the characters don't hurt the side.
Good players don't let their character overshadow their football unless it helps them to do so.
If Riewoldt and Richmond master those two things then him being a flog will matter nought.
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
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Durable, skillful, clever, unselfish, and loyal. Yet some 'fans' chose to hate on him because he carries on a bit every now and then.
I actually like that he's a bit of a dill. One of the few characters in a league full of metro robots.
:clapping Big Willy ramming the point home as always
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
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Every team has a multitude of characters in it, but good teams make sure that the characters don't hurt the side.
Good players don't let their character overshadow their football unless it helps them to do so.
If Riewoldt and Richmond master those two things then him being a flog will matter nought.
He's not a perfect person or a perfect player. But I would say he has strengthened far more than he has 'hurt' our side since his debut.
People are pretty quick to call him a poo bloke too, from the safety of their desk chair of course. But I wonder how much time they've spent with him. I wouldn't judge anyone like that before I'd met them, let alone one of our players.
The fact that he signed quickly for a lot less than he could have got elsewhere, at least show that he loves the club.
On a side note, Mark Maclure... Really. Its embarassing listening to his rants on 774. He gets all worked up like he's saying something profound but he talks absolute nonsense. I remember when he used to get Krak and Tambling confused constantly.
If he wasn't a past player he'd be in a nursing home right now.
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Just want him to run more, harder and longer. 2011 he was one of the best players to watch in the comp, excitement machine. Then was injured so excused in 2012, but 2013 just didnt like his lack of run and the short leads to the pocket and calling for it over the top. I feel for the bloke, has obviously taken it really hard and good on him for his big FU to the media. Nothing personal, just think he could be so much better than he is, has shedloads of ability and x factor.
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Just want him to run more, harder and longer. 2011 he was one of the best players to watch in the comp, excitement machine. Then was injured so excused in 2012, but 2013 just didnt like his lack of run and the short leads to the pocket and calling for it over the top. I feel for the bloke, has obviously taken it really hard and good on him for his big FU to the media. Nothing personal, just think he could be so much better than he is, has shedloads of ability and x factor.
Hardwick game plan
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
I agree that his best year was his first coleman. I thought he was pretty good last year, but certainly capable of more. I feel the same about Lids and Cotch, by the way.
But that does not mean that his 'attitude issues' are to blame for his output. Team dynamics, injuries, opposition team's focus, plain old 'form' etc. are to blame IMO, not his cockiness. He was the same bloke when he was dominating a couple of years ago.
I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I reckon if Jack was really the jerk that some people make him out to be, he would be out on the town kicking up as stink every other week. He's squeaky clean off the field, and on the field too, at least it in terms of suspensions.
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
I agree that his best year was his first coleman. I thought he was pretty good last year, but certainly capable of more. I feel the same about Lids and Cotch, by the way.
But that does not mean that his 'attitude issues' are to blame for his output. Team dynamics, injuries, opposition team's focus, plain old 'form' etc. are to blame IMO, not his cockiness. He was the same bloke when he was dominating a couple of years ago.
I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I reckon if Jack was really the jerk that some people make him out to be, he would be out on the town kicking up as stink every other week. He's squeaky clean off the field, and on the field too, at least it in terms of suspensions.
Well said Willy.... But you are wasting your time trying to convert the haters. He is a genuine star of the game and people want to talk sh6t about him finger pointing. Each to their own.
But I also agree that he ends to work a bit harder than last year. To many times he wanted to lead back towards goal rather than leading from it.
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Have you seen how our mids dick around with the ball trying to enter F50? Jack is normally on his third lead by the time they decide to kick it in rather than sideways, then if he's real lucky it is actually kicked to his advantage and he only has two defenders left on him to beat ::)
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Have you seen how our mids dick around with the ball trying to enter F50? Jack is normally on his third lead by the time they decide to kick it in rather than sideways, then if he's real lucky it is actually kicked to his advantage and he only has two defenders left on him to beat ::)
Yes there is that too....
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Have you seen how our mids dick around with the ball trying to enter F50? Jack is normally on his third lead by the time they decide to kick it in rather than sideways, then if he's real lucky it is actually kicked to his advantage and he only has two defenders left on him to beat ::)
Not if Grigg is kicking
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You can make a cup of tea y the time giggs kick goes back to Terra firma
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I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I personally think his dummy spits were a by-product of playing injured.
Think this caused him to be frustrated in his own output and like all of us he let this frustration show, sometimes in the wrong way by criticising team mates around him.
Think most of us have been guilty of the same thing if we're honest and have lived long enough.
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
I agree that his best year was his first coleman. I thought he was pretty good last year, but certainly capable of more. I feel the same about Lids and Cotch, by the way.
But that does not mean that his 'attitude issues' are to blame for his output. Team dynamics, injuries, opposition team's focus, plain old 'form' etc. are to blame IMO, not his cockiness. He was the same bloke when he was dominating a couple of years ago.
I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I reckon if Jack was really the jerk that some people make him out to be, he would be out on the town kicking up as stink every other week. He's squeaky clean off the field, and on the field too, at least it in terms of suspensions.
Well said Willy.... But you are wasting your time trying to convert the haters. He is a genuine star of the game and people want to talk sh6t about him finger pointing. Each to their own.
But I also agree that he ends to work a bit harder than last year. To many times he wanted to lead back towards goal rather than leading from it.
I'm certainly not a hater but I also see that he needs to adjust his mental approach to the game.
It's not just the finger pointing and over-the-top reactions to wins and losses that will no doubt pee off his team mates in time, but other aspects of his behaviour as well.
Like last year when he made a stupid attempt at marking the footy then baked the umpire for not giving him a free for a push when there was no-one near him. If he was your 5-year-old you would have smacked him on the arse and taken him straight home.
Umpires are human and they will have seen it when every footy show was taking the pee out of him. How do you think that works when there is a 50-50 call to make on top of all the other times he bakes the umpires?
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Richo would've eventually found himself up on murder charges had he played with Grigg.
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
I agree that his best year was his first coleman. I thought he was pretty good last year, but certainly capable of more. I feel the same about Lids and Cotch, by the way.
But that does not mean that his 'attitude issues' are to blame for his output. Team dynamics, injuries, opposition team's focus, plain old 'form' etc. are to blame IMO, not his cockiness. He was the same bloke when he was dominating a couple of years ago.
I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I reckon if Jack was really the jerk that some people make him out to be, he would be out on the town kicking up as stink every other week. He's squeaky clean off the field, and on the field too, at least it in terms of suspensions.
Well said Willy.... But you are wasting your time trying to convert the haters. He is a genuine star of the game and people want to talk sh6t about him finger pointing. Each to their own.
But I also agree that he ends to work a bit harder than last year. To many times he wanted to lead back towards goal rather than leading from it.
I'm certainly not a hater but I also see that he needs to adjust his mental approach to the game.
It's not just the finger pointing and over-the-top reactions to wins and losses that will no doubt pee off his team mates in time, but other aspects of his behaviour as well.
Like last year when he made a stupid attempt at marking the footy then baked the umpire for not giving him a free for a push when there was no-one near him. If he was your 5-year-old you would have smacked him on the arse and taken him straight home.
Umpires are human and they will have seen it when every footy show was taking the pee out of him. How do you think that works when there is a 50-50 call to make on top of all the other times he bakes the umpires?
Yep. That kind of poo is silly and possibly negatively impacts the whole team to some
degree. It's a weakness of Jack's. I don't think he does this because he's a poo bloke, more because he lets his passion and frustration get the better of him at times. But it's certainly something he needs to work on. Having said that, he also does poo loads of good things - often miraculous and unselfish things - for the team, so I'm not going to let those silly things define him as a player or person.
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Richo would've eventually found himself up on murder charges had he played with Grigg.
LOL I can just picture Richo chasing Grigg down the middle of the MCG and giving him a hiding.
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I know this is off topic,but I get a sense that with our depth in the midfield this year,that griggs time might be up.....
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Hardwick happy Jack is back
richmondfc.com.au
March 11, 2014 3:14 PM
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was pleased to see star forward Jack Riewoldt gain some valuable game time in last Friday’s practice match against Essendon at Punt Road Oval at the ME Bank Centre.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-03-11/hardwick-happy-jack-is-back
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Clearly Barrett wants that first post-media ban interview with Jack :yep ...
IF ...... Jack Riewoldt kicks a bag on Saturday night, and is approached by the boundary rider post-match
THEN ... it'll be interesting to see how his media ban plays out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-14/sliding-doors-round-one
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Clearly Barrett wants that first post-media ban interview with Jack :yep ...
IF ...... Jack Riewoldt kicks a bag on Saturday night, and is approached by the boundary rider post-match
THEN ... it'll be interesting to see how his media ban plays out.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-14/sliding-doors-round-one
Campbell Brown on Triple M's Saturday morning show 'Dead set legends' has made it his season goal to get an interview with Jack.
Woah look at Jack work the room. Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen :shh
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Good players win colemans twice in early 20s
I think that sort of emphasises the point though.
Most people would say Riewoldt hasn't played the footy in the past couple of seasons that he played in those years and I think his 'other' issues have become more prevalent over that time.
I agree that his best year was his first coleman. I thought he was pretty good last year, but certainly capable of more. I feel the same about Lids and Cotch, by the way.
But that does not mean that his 'attitude issues' are to blame for his output. Team dynamics, injuries, opposition team's focus, plain old 'form' etc. are to blame IMO, not his cockiness. He was the same bloke when he was dominating a couple of years ago.
I think his dummy spits are way overstated too. Sure he points the finger a fair bit, but most of this is probably warranted. He is smart player and knows the game plan.
It's just easy fodder for the media to focus on these things. People like cutting down people with a profile. Its a sad element of human nature.
I reckon if Jack was really the jerk that some people make him out to be, he would be out on the town kicking up as stink every other week. He's squeaky clean off the field, and on the field too, at least it in terms of suspensions.
Well said Willy.... But you are wasting your time trying to convert the haters. He is a genuine star of the game and people want to talk sh6t about him finger pointing. Each to their own.
But I also agree that he ends to work a bit harder than last year. To many times he wanted to lead back towards goal rather than leading from it.
I'm certainly not a hater but I also see that he needs to adjust his mental approach to the game.
It's not just the finger pointing and over-the-top reactions to wins and losses that will no doubt pee off his team mates in time, but other aspects of his behaviour as well.
Like last year when he made a stupid attempt at marking the footy then baked the umpire for not giving him a free for a push when there was no-one near him. If he was your 5-year-old you would have smacked him on the arse and taken him straight home.
Umpires are human and they will have seen it when every footy show was taking the pee out of him. How do you think that works when there is a 50-50 call to make on top of all the other times he bakes the umpires?
Yep. That kind of poo is silly and possibly negatively impacts the whole team to some
degree. It's a weakness of Jack's. I don't think he does this because he's a poo bloke, more because he lets his passion and frustration get the better of him at times. But it's certainly something he needs to work on. Having said that, he also does pooe loads of good things - often miraculous and unselfish things - for the team, so I'm not going to let those silly things define him as a player or person.
Remenber when the knob got taken off injured, wasn't allowed back on and had a big cry and abused trainers.
Such a wanker.
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wanted to go on the field and help his team regardless of head injury
OMG what a massive flog
what would you rather him do? put his feet up, have some fruit cake and a cup of tea?
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Um. Perhaps to stfu and be a team member.
If he thought carrying on that way was going to get him back on the field then he's a bigger tool than I thought.
Why haven't any others acted that way.
Sure show some disappointment but to act like a complete fcku head is pathetic.
It was about him, not the team....
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Um. Perhaps to stfu and be a team member.
It is about the team. Jack is in our best 18. Hence him being on the ground is what is best for the team.
If he thought carrying on that way was going to get him back on the field then he's a bigger tool than I thought.
His intention was to help the team. He is passionate. He had a head injury.
Why haven't any others acted that way.
Maybe they dont care enough for Richmond as Jack does...
Sure show some disappointment but to act like a complete stuffu head is pathetic.
It was about him, not the team....
In his heart i reckon he wants what best for the team
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Jack just where's his heart on his sleeve, look at what Freo were throwing at him and he stayed!
He is one of our guns, he cant do anything about the past but learn from it, that's one of the reasons for his self media ban, all I can say is look out 2014...........
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Um. Perhaps to stfu and be a team member.
It is about the team. Jack is in our best 18. Hence him being on the ground is what is best for the team.
If he thought carrying on that way was going to get him back on the field then he's a bigger tool than I thought.
His intention was to help the team. He is passionate. He had a head injury.
Why haven't any others acted that way.
Maybe they dont care enough for Richmond as Jack does...
Sure show some disappointment but to act like a complete stuffu head is pathetic.
It was about him, not the team....
In his heart i reckon he wants what best for the team
Definitely carrying a head injury.
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'Abusing trainers'
You going for a job at the Hun, Ox?
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Funny.
Nope.
Trainers r people too, u know.
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So are footballers. Maybe cut the loyal tiger some slack.
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Trainers only following orders from coach.
Jack sure wasn't.
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Trainers families shouldn't be threatened
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No doubt. Never suggested they were out of line.
I'm not going to hang Jack out of like for his tanty though either. He just wanted to play. Wasn't of sound mind at that stage either.
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He had a concussion ffs. Pretty much everything negative you're saying about the incident is invalid because of that.
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He must be concussed all the time
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Yep permanent concussion
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He must be concussed all the time
You actually bitch and whinge more than jack (and that's saying something)
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At the end of their Friday footy coverage last night, Ch 7 said "Jack breaks his media ban on Saturday night footy".
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Jack to kick 8 goals tonight ;D
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Jack "breaks his silence" on Ch 7 - coming up soon on Saturday Night Football. Interview with Richo.
By the way, Darcy said Jack has kicked more goals than all but Buddy over the past 4 years.
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Summary of Richo interviewing Jack:
* The "media ban" was hammed up a bit.
* Spoke to the club last year about a media ban. He just wants to focus on playing footy.
* Got sick of people in the media, who he had never spoken to and who don't know him, writing stories about him personally.
* We're lucky we have a number of leaders at the Club. Accepts the Club has brought in people from other clubs who have stepped up in the leadership stakes and ahead of him and that has meant he's been pushed out of the leadership group. You don't need the title to be a leader. He has no doubt that in the future he'll be vying for the leadership group again.
* He loves the Club and bleeds Yellow & Black.
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Bleeds Yellow and Black
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Gee I wish he would start flying for the ball like a few years ago and take control of the forward line...it would also help if we opened up the 50 for him and can kick the ball on his tit rather than bomb the bloody thing so every opposition defender can spoil the ball. Whilst I am at it, get out of his way Vickery!
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No dimension to his game.
Opp has him worked out
Shame hardwick hasn't
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JACK’S BACK ON MEDIA STREET
Jon Ralph
Herald-Sun
March 19, 2014
BRAVO to Jack Riewoldt.
He didn’t get a kick on Saturday night, but at least he had removed a key talking point ahead of the season.
Riewoldt went on Seven’s Saturday night coverage — albeit in an interview with club champion Matthew Richardson — and ended his “media ban” in the only way he knew how.
He laughed at himself by entering with black tape over his mouth, and then explained that he was truly hurt by his absence from the leadership group.
We love Riewoldt in the media — his heart is on his sleeve, but we get to see the real Jack Riewoldt.
He was largely ignored by Richmond’s forwards against Gold Coast, but he didn’t throw the toys out of the cot.
The Riewoldt of 2013 seemed to lose his feet too often, didn’t chase hard enough, didn’t stay in the contest.
Riewoldt at least kept fighting on a dirty night for the Tigers.
And as a million coaches have said before, if you do the little things it’s amazing how quickly your form can return.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-jon-ralph-rates-all-58-afl-free-agents-from-the-class-of-2015/story-fndv7pj3-1226858507829
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He was ignored by the Richmond forwards? Didn't give him any hand off or Joe the Goose goals or they just weren't on speaking terms?
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Bleeds Yellow and Black
Dank probably has a cure for that. :shh
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He was ignored by the Richmond forwards? Didn't give him any hand off or Joe the Goose goals or they just weren't on speaking terms?
;D Think Ralphy meant the midfielders.
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For all the media criticism and obsession, Jack has kicked the most goals in the AFL since the start of 2012 and has the second best average at 2.8 goals per game.
J.Riewoldt 128
Franklin 124
Cloke 118
Roughead 116
Hawkins 115
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-11/night-movers-and-shakers
By the way, Damian Barrett reckons Jack could kick 8 tonight :o.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-11/sliding-doors-round-four
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Needs to kick 8 tonight.
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Being a coleman medalist is pretty pointless if there's nothing to show for it at the end of the year.
In the past 30 years, there has only been 4 occasions when a coleman medalist actually won a premiership in the same year. There of course are many reasons why a team wins a granny, and it's not because a team has an awesome FF. If that were the case, then more than four colemans would have won flags.
These greats include Lockett, Ablett Snr, Richo (Ok he was great in my mind), Quinlin (Superboot was a fav of mine when I was young) and many others awesome FF's.
Why bother going on and on about a bloke at FF when the whole team can't function well at any level.
And The Richmond players are NOT skillful enough to come any where near it.
This whole Team, including Jack, where ever he plays has more than enough talent to win a flag, they just gotta get off their arses and stop being so friggin useless, and this has nothing to do with coaching decisions. Players just keep stuffing up. Kicking to a pack and hoping a Tiger may take a grab is about all the skill we have at the moment.
Bring on the best we got Tigers and we will certainly make the finals and win tonight.
Let Jack go where ever he Friggin likes on the foward line, let the bastard loose and let him fire up, that's his best place on the field.
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Jack chb
Chaplin delist
Mcbean. Elton. Griffith. Lennon. Llloyd. Forward
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Has he played this year?
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Make him Captain let him play full forward and then trade him to fitzroy for a few decent players.
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We make it nigh on impossible for our deep forwards to have an impact with the way we are playing.
I really dont think Jack is the problem at the mo.
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Here's a replay all 11 ....
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-24/jack-riewoldt-runs-rampant
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After the match, Riewoldt said: “I was pretty devastated with how it came across. I let the coach down; I let the side down.
“Today I was coming in with the mindset of just trying to pay the faith back in Dimma (Hardwick) and the boys and the footy club.”
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/05/24/looking-like-giant-jacks-back-seven-straight/
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Has he played this year?
Oh there he is!
Jack can you comment this week, just say what we all are thinking..... :thumbsup
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If you take away the goals what are you left with? :shh
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Assists
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Tigers reap rewards as 11-goal Riewoldt moves foot from mouth to Sherrin
Jordan Chong
afl.com.au
May 24, 2014 7:21 PM
AT FIRST glance it seems curious that Damien Hardwick nominated Jack Riewold's pass to Trent Cotchin late in the final term as the highlight of his young spearhead's afternoon.
Given the events of the week however, you can understand why.
A frustrated Riewoldt lashed out in the days following the loss to Melbourne, criticising the club's game-plan.
The club threatened to drop Riewoldt for this week's game, as his actions were outside the boundaries of being a united football club.
Saved from the axe at the selection table, a focused and determined Riewoldt produced a game that was reminiscent of his best, with clever leading, strong marking and brilliant accuracy that led to 11 goals.
It could so easily have been 12. Deep into the final term Riewoldt marked in the pocket and looked to line up for a set shot.
Instead, he passed the footy to skipper Trent Cotchin in a better position to score.
Hardwick described that kick as his favourite passage of play.
"For him to actually come back and give the ball to Cotchin I think late when he could have kicked more goals is probably testament to the kid he is," Hardwick said after the match.
The man himself shrugged off the pass to Cotchin.
"When the captain calls for the ball you kick it to him," Riewoldt told Fox Sports immediately after the final siren.
"It is not about who kicks the goals. It is about putting goals on the scoreboard.
"We thought we could put 20 goals on them today. We've done that."
Riewoldt, who apologised to teammates and the coaching staff after his comments, said it had been an emotional week.
"I was pretty devastated with how it came across, I let the coach down, I let the side down," Riewoldt said.
"Today I just came in with the mindset of just trying to repay the faith back in (Hardwick) and the boys and the footy club.
"I am just happy with the performance, really really happy that the football club has the four points and looking forward to playing Essendon at Dreamtime next week."
Riewoldt kicked four goals in the opening term, added three more in the second quarter before another four in the third quarter.
His first miss came at the 17th minute of the last quarter, and he added another behind in the dying stages.
The 11-goal haul eclipses his previous best of 10 and catapulted him to the top of the Coleman Medal standings on 28 goals, three ahead of Port Adelaide’s Jay Schulz.
Riewoldt, who declined to speak to media after the match, is a two-time Coleman medallist.
Hardwick said Riewoldt "responded in the way we would have liked".
"His defensive efforts early were fantastic and then to get rewarded offensively was very good." Hardwick said.
"He got a kick in the backside last week but we move on pretty quick and he answered in the best way possible."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-24/teamman-jacks-selfless-act
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Assists
:lol :clapping
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Jack's now leading the Coleman ...
J.Riewoldt 28
L.Breust 27
J.Schulz 26
T.Hawkins 25
J.Kennedy 25
N.Riewoldt 24
J.Gunston 22
C.Wingard 21
J.Roughead 20
L.Franklin 19
http://www.afl.com.au/
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A great game. A great response. Well done to him
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A pure smartass who when pulls head out of his ass can play football. just play football Jack. thats what your paid to do.
Some lovely strong marks & excellent kicking. Is purely a confidence player but has not won me over yet.
like to see him kick at least 6 against the druggies
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LOL @smart ass......love it
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Could win the Coleman on 3-4 games of footy like that a year.
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Jack the Giant Slayer :rollin
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Jack really led the defenders a merry dance and led into space beautifully. GWS had no idea how to stop him. Our forwards also did really well in creating space for each other.
Morris played most of the day in the forward line and IMO he was actually one of the reasons why our Talls had so much space. He played a forward defensive roll, pushing and barging the GWS defenders out of position which seemed to work as a good foil for Jack.
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Jack really led the defenders a merry dance and led into space beautifully. GWS had no idea how to stop him. Our forwards also did really well in creating space for each other.
Morris played most of the day in the forward line and IMO he was actually one of the reasons why our Talls had so much space. He played a forward defensive roll, pushing and barging the GWS defenders out of position which seemed to work as a good foil for Jack.
Yep he didn't stop doing it all game, gave GWS the poos
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Jack really led the defenders a merry dance and led into space beautifully. GWS had no idea how to stop him. Our forwards also did really well in creating space for each other.
Morris played most of the day in the forward line and IMO he was actually one of the reasons why our Talls had so much space. He played a forward defensive roll, pushing and barging the GWS defenders out of position which seemed to work as a good foil for Jack.
Yep he didn't stop doing it all game, gave GWS the poos
great calls :clapping
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By the way, i don't know if anyone noticed but Jack is leading the Coleman. :clapping
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Come on number 3............ :pray
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1 decent game for the year and leading the Coleman. :thumbsup
Memo to Dimma. :shh
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1 decent game for the year and leading the Coleman. :thumbsup
Memo to Dimma. :shh
Ah playing him forward.....
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Jack Riewoldt is now equal favourite for the Coleman. In from $15 last week to $7 with the TAB.
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Jack Riewoldt is now equal favourite for the Coleman. In from $15 last week to $7 with the TAB.
The real question is though will it be a real Coleman
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Jack Riewoldt is now equal favourite for the Coleman. In from $15 last week to $7 with the TAB.
The real question is though will it be a real Coleman
It's not a real Coleman if you don't kick 100+ goals ;)
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This guy is a pain in the arse. After his act of treachery he comes in and kicks 11 against the worst team in the world. Get a kick against a decent club.
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Treachery lol
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Would hate to play in the forward line with the Tigers :help
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I missed the first half but heard on sen the commentators saying he was playing Hb and only played FF the last 10 mins?
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The forward line was open all night with Edwards the highest player for the majority of the game...
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The forward line was open all night with Edwards the highest player for the majority of the game...
stuffing joke, too cute for their own good our mensa coaching team
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 last night: Is a dislocated finger affecting Jack's goalkicking technique?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqFVHjrCcAERe-j.jpg)
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Thats the one his done doing high fives in the GWS game. ;D
Technique is dropping the ball onto the foot, Not kicking your hand with the foot :lol
No excuse this guy is a Spud
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This guy is a pain in the arse. After his act of treachery he comes in and kicks 11 against the worst team in the world. Get a kick against a decent club.
That "worst team in the world", since we beat them by 110+, has run Hawks to 7, Essendon to 15 and beat Brisbane by 45.
Not quite the "worst team in the world" methinks.
:cheers
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This guy is a pain in the arse. After his act of treachery he comes in and kicks 11 against the worst team in the world. Get a kick against a decent club.
That "worst team in the world", since we beat them by 110+, has run Hawks to 7, Essendon to 15 and beat Brisbane by 45.
Not quite the "worst team in the world" methinks.
:cheers
agree GWS is a club in learning which learnt from there mistakes & have beaten Sydney also. by no means the worst team in the world & which had players out when we played them. Josh Hunt would have been a welcome add against us & rewoldt would have went to water ;D
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Thats the one his done doing high fives in the GWS game. ;D
Technique is dropping the ball onto the foot, Not kicking your hand with the foot :lol
No excuse this guy is a Spud
You troll
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Thats the one his done doing high fives in the GWS game. ;D
Technique is dropping the ball onto the foot, Not kicking your hand with the foot :lol
No excuse this guy is a Spud
You troll
Call me what you want :lol l only read 1 forum but l have been to Scandinavia & love there Olut. ;D Having a bent finger is no excuse for the way a person kicks the football. If he is using this as a excuse, Then is a very poor one & shouldn't be in the team at all. His paid big money to kick goals & if you cant do the job then stand aside because anyone can play that position at his height. Any footballer if you played the game will tell you a bent finger is minor. one AFL player cut his off so he could keep playing football in his side cause the team comes 1st. l expect Jack to be out next week against Sydney because of his finger & McBean in to see what his got to give. Vlossy had a bad finger too :lol
Rewoldt is a kick chaser. Comes down the ground to help defenders, But watches the ball go out of the forward 50 very easy. When the ball gets moved forward his not there cause his out of puff coming up the wing still. give me a break. Go to the games & watch what he does constantly. 3 kicks in a row all easy all missed. That is the sign of a out of performance player. These guys do far too much kicking indoors & when it comes to kicking in wet blustery conditions they have no idea cause they are indoor performers & even at the docklands he can't kick straight JUNK TIME JACK.
hyvää iltapäivää ;D
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Not finger.
Finger NAIL.
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Maybe he should have all his fingers broken and set into the correct grip like Mick Doohan.
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Not finger.
Finger NAIL.
he has a bent little finger ;D
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Maybe he should have all his fingers broken and set into the correct grip like Mick Doohan.
where is my hammer :lol ;D
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Does that affect his pointing?
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He's just a stuffn idiot.
End of story.
Trade.
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Does that affect his pointing?
we can fix that also free of charge ;D
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He's just a stuffn idiot.
End of story.
Trade.
Yep while clubs think he is worth something
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I like Jack despite all the flaws, he's one of the few smart footballers we have for a start, but we need to be bold and trade him & Deledio to get top class mid like Fyfe and Patton this year or Cameron next year.
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Still leading the Coleman.
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Still leading the Coleman.
Is it a real Coleman this year?
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Still leading the Coleman.
Is it a real Coleman this year?
As opposed to what?
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Still leading the Coleman.
Is it a real Coleman this year?
As opposed to what?
Dunno apparently some Coleman's arent real ones (usually the ones Jack wins)
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Still leading the Coleman.
Look.
It's hard not to crack th poos with jack.
Re Coleman.
The award should only be for players who
Kick 100 goals in a season.
2 blokes do it then they both get the accolade.
Anything between 40 -60 gets the Gen Y awards
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You kick the most goals in the comp and you deserve it.
Jack is a gun and not the problem.
We need another key forward. Preferably a gorilla CHF with an appetite for the contest..
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I beg to differ.
1.5 is a problem.
It's not the first time...
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His failure to "finish" is a double edged blade.
Not only does it kill us on the scoreboard but it deflates the confidence and drive of the midfield who are continually delivering it to him.
Bad problem.
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His failure to "finish" is a double edged blade.
Not only does it kill us on the scoreboard but it deflates the confidence and drive of the midfield who are continually delivering it to him.
Bad problem.
Its not as bad as looking up the ground and seeing Ty Vickory leading toward you.
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His failure to "finish" is a double edged blade.
Not only does it kill us on the scoreboard but it deflates the confidence and drive of the midfield who are continually delivering it to him.
Bad problem.
Its not as bad as looking up the ground and seeing Ty Vickory leading toward you.
Don't you mean leading away from you?
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
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His failure to "finish" is a double edged blade.
Not only does it kill us on the scoreboard but it deflates the confidence and drive of the midfield who are continually delivering it to him.
Bad problem.
Its not as bad as looking up the ground and seeing Ty Vickory leading toward you.
Don't you mean leading away from you?
Oops sorry, your right. That's a bad oversight on my behalf.
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
Open your eyes nutbags JR does do this
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
Open your eyes nutbags JR does do this
His kicking though this year when more than 35m out has been poor. Does not carry enough momentum with his approach which is too slow for shots beyond medium range.
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
Open your eyes nutbags JR does do this
Refused to do it at least 4 times yesterday, and allowed his man to run forward and create an overlap option, ya douche
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
Best name.
I'm using it.
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#1 afl marks inside 50
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Sensational today. Held his feet. Got the ball out to advantage. Set up many others.
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VIDEO: Riewoldt's round 17 showcase ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-13/round-17-riewoldt-showcase
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Looked like a different players
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The dual Coleman Medallist went into the game with his head shaved, as a mark of respect for a family member, who is undergoing cancer treatment.
“I just want to give a bit shout out for my cousin ‘Maddy’, who started chemotherapy today,” Riewoldt said.
“’I love you ‘Madds’, we all love you, and we’re looking forward to you pulling through this’.”
Read more and full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-14/riewoldts-ripping-response
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Keep the shaved head. He played like a trooper
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Sunday was the blueprint Jack. Sensational game, his non goal kicking work is hugely underrated by non Richmond people and some OER posters!
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Sunday was the blueprint Jack. Sensational game, his non goal kicking work is hugely underrated by non Richmond people and some OER posters!
x 2
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Sunday was the blueprint Jack. Sensational game, his non goal kicking work is hugely underrated by non Richmond people and some OER posters!
x 2
Finished with Nick Riewoldt type stats :clapping
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Sunday was the blueprint Jack. Sensational game, his non goal kicking work is hugely underrated by non Richmond people and some OER posters!
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Hes been doing the one percenters all year. Its the kicking goals on a quality opponent that he has struggled with and keeping his mind on the game, not the media. Who can blame him though given the slow haphazard delivery he has had to endure.
Now that we are winning the contested footy and the coach (hopefully) has given up on his ridiculously defensive footy plan, we should see a better Jack. Coaches can ruin good players in the eyes of fans faster than anything else.
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Junk Time Jack the sook really needs to extract a digit and recognise that playing as a key forward means running both ways ala Pavlich.
Open your eyes nutbags JR does do this
Refused to do it at least 4 times yesterday, and allowed his man to run forward and create an overlap option, ya douche
You have no idea if you want to see a forward who puts no pressure on have a look at lazy Jay Schultz
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l reckon Jack is carrying a leg injury that restricts his kicking power. l have seen several players with this injury which allows the player to run quick, but not burst off the spot & stops them from kicking the full distance their capable or turning a certain side when evading a opponent.
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l reckon Jack is carrying a leg injury that restricts his kicking power. l have seen several players with this injury which allows the player to run quick, but not burst off the spot & stops them from kicking the full distance their capable or turning a certain side when evading a opponent.
Never thought I'd see the day you would offer up an excuse for Jack
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l reckon Jack is carrying a leg injury that restricts his kicking power. l have seen several players with this injury which allows the player to run quick, but not burst off the spot & stops them from kicking the full distance their capable or turning a certain side when evading a opponent.
before the game he was telling hardwick "thats my range"
and hardwick just talked some crap and told he to lean back more
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l reckon Jack is carrying a leg injury that restricts his kicking power. l have seen several players with this injury which allows the player to run quick, but not burst off the spot & stops them from kicking the full distance their capable or turning a certain side when evading a opponent.
Jack has never had a big boot
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Overheard brendon, and his daughter, speaking to nick Riewoldt.
Gale (to his daughter): "to you know who this is? Jacks cousin "
;D ;D
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Jack on MMM ....
* I’m not totally focused on kicking goals. My role is to kick goals but the more score involvements I can be involved in, the better for the side. I only kicked one goal on the weekend but we still managed to kick 13. We found a lot of midfield goals, which are key to winning games these days. Hopefully, we can continue to kick winning scores.
* It’s the modern game. You really want to try and defend first. That’s probably our motto. We try to defend and that’s pushing up the ground and trying to pick up the midfielders’ men so they can get back and help out our backs. We’ve seen a lot of goals this year, I reckon, from back patterns, nearly the old Pagan’s paddock, where guys are running back and kicking goals over the top. It’s tough to play full-forward these days. You end up playing more as a half-forward.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-06/defence-first-for-riewoldt
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The best form of defence is winning the ball & maintaining possession.
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That still doesn't explain why his set shot kicking has been less than average as of late
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We get the kick out and mids goals, it's an indirect goal assist from jack
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The best form of defence is winning the ball & maintaining possession.
Tika tika
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The best form of defence is winning the ball & maintaining possession.
Tika tika
Nothing to do with keepings off....about players being strong and applying pressure at the contest, having good skills and decision making, therefore winning the ball more and not turning it over as much when in attack....
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The best form of defence is winning the ball & maintaining possession.
Tika tika
Nothing to do with keepings off....
You been watching much Australian football last five years?
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The best form of defensive is attack and attack early, something we haven't done consistently and when we have we haven't defended!!!!
Jack needs to stay in the square and Hardwick needs to realise that next year.
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The best form of defence is winning the ball & maintaining possession.
Tika tika
Nothing to do with keepings off....
You been watching much Australian football last five years?
You have the comprehension skills of a stuffing gnat.
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Jack Riewoldt is the second-most used inside 50m target (176) in the AFL. Only Sydney Swan Lance Franklin (179) has been the target of more forward entries.
Riewoldt is ranked No.1 for marks inside 50m (77).
The Coleman Medallist is sixth for scoreboard impact according to Champion Data.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2014-08-12/stats-that-matter-rd-21
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The race for the Coleman Medal: Lance Franklin primed to win third award with Jarryd Roughead to miss Fremantle clash
Ben Waterworth
Herald-Sun
August 12, 2014 5:14PM
Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)
Total Goals in 2014: 48
Goals in past three matches: 2 (Essendon), 1 (GWS Giants), 1 (West Coast Eagles)
Average goals against remaining opponents: 1.86 (Adelaide), 3.5 (St Kilda), 2.09 (Sydney)
If it wasn’t for his equal league-high haul of 11 goals in Round 10 earlier this season, Riewoldt would be nowhere near the top of the goalkicking table.
Besides that bag, he hasn’t kicked five or more goals in any other game, yet he has consistently produced bags of two or three goals.
Remarkably, Riewoldt, who won the Coleman Medal in 2010 and 2012, has barely contributed to Richmond’s recent surge up the ladder — a wonderful sign for Tigers fans but not Riewoldt’s Coleman chances.
A third medal seems unlikely.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-race-for-the-coleman-medal-lance-franklin-primed-to-win-third-award-with-jarryd-roughead-to-miss-fremantle-clash/story-fndv7pj3-1227022150337
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Jack on MMM ...
AUDIO: http://audioboo.fm/boos/2383628-the-rub-saturday-9th-august-part-1.mp3
* I think we’ve developed a bit of a steely resolve and most of the credit’s got to go to the captain. He’s the one that’s stood up and grabbed the group by the scruff of the neck, along with Ivan and the rest of our leadership group and said, "Boys, we’re not copping this. This is where we need to get better".
* We’ve done a lot of personal feedback over the last three months and some of it’s been public, in terms of us talking to Trent and telling him we want him to demand more from us.
* As well, we said to Milesy after a poor game last week against GWS that we needed him to stand up. That really in-your-face feedback from your teammates can be confronting at times but our leaders said that’s what they want us to do and it shows a love and a care that they want everyone to get better. So, the credit’s got to be put on their shoulders because they’re the ones that have started to drag us back up the ladder.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-13/captain-cotchin-steps-up
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Jack an ace
richmondfc.com.au
August 14, 2014
The dual Coleman Medallist has kicked 48.32 for the season, is ranked No. 1 in the competition for marks inside 50, with 77 (seven ahead of Geelong’s Tom Hawkins), and also figures prominently in the score assists category.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-14/jack-an-ace
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imagine if his prep was A grade.
He'd be a good player :shh
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Jack brings up fifth consecutive 50
Jack Riewoldt might have his detractors, but the Tiger spearhead underlined his consistency by bringing up his fifth consecutive season haul of 50 goals or more. Riewoldt entered Sunday's game on 48 goals for the season and needed only 15 minutes to reach his 'half-century'. Riewoldt added another two goals in the second term, including a 40m around-the-corner set shot reminiscent of Geelong star Steve Johnson. He added two in the second half to finish with six for the game. On a wet evening, it was an outstanding effort.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-24/five-talking-points-richmond-v-st-kilda
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I love Jack.
But it would be really nice if he tore a good side a new ahole next week.
Kick us a bag Jackiboy and get your Tigers across the line next week. That is what stars do.
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I love Jack.
But it would be really nice if he tore a good side a new ahole next week.
Kick us a bag Jackiboy and get your Tigers across the line next week. That is what stars do.
Agree.
This really is a stage all set up for him.
Cometh the man, cometh the hour sort of stuff.
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Lmao.
Good luck with that.
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The usual thing will happen, our other forwards will go to water and jack will get double teamed
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The Saints are definitely Jack's bunnies - 39 goals in the past 7 games against them.
6 - Round 11, 2010
7 - Round 21, 2010
8 - Round 10, 2012
7 - Round 2, 2013
3 - Round 14, 2013
2 - Round 15, 2014
6 - Round 22, 2014
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A feature of Riewoldt’s goalkicking display against St Kilda on Sunday, was his preferred method of using the increasingly popular ‘around-the-corner’ kick for several shots from a slight angle, with a 100% success strike-rate.
“I was just playing the percentages, I suppose,” Riewoldt said.
“I feel pretty comfortable doing those sort of kicks.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-25/jack-the-saints-slayer
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It's one thing, kicking small bags against dud teams.
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(http://s30.postimg.org/4vvnciaoh/Screen_Shot_2014_08_25_at_5_23_15_PM.png)
It's nice knowing that this is at the wheel...
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In the team photo in the Herald Sun today he is wearing one white boot, one black.
He really is a flog's flog.
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In the team photo in the Herald Sun today he is wearing one white boot, one black.
He really is a flog's flog.
Your just jealous that you didn't think of it first. :wallywink
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Reported.
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Jack on Ch 7 pre-game:
* I haven't had a great year. I've had a serviceable year but done my role to help the team.
* Loyalty is very important to me. I believe everyone in the group is on board for us to do something special.
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When everything goes to poo
As it seems to every so often
Why not put him chb
Rather than 100 meters away from the ball
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Can not play in big games after big build-ups.
Spends all his energy being a flog, putting stupid faces on for the cameras before the game to show how focussed he is etc etc
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Coughed beer @
Literally speeds all energy being flog
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FJ recalling the drafting of Jack and us dropping from pick 8 to 13 ...
“The actual final decision (to pick Riewoldt) we made after the grand final that Jack played for Clarence against Glenorchy. I went to that grand final not really to watch Jack, but to watch who else was there, because I felt any (AFL) club that was seriously considering taking Jack with their first pick, would have been at that grand final. So, my sole task for the day, was to identify as many people from other clubs as possible, to actually eliminate those people in that range. At the end of the day, we felt it was a no-brainer (to drop five places in the National Draft) because Jack would still be available at pick 13. A lot of what-ifs went into that actual decision to swap those picks with Fremantle.”
“The picks in-between seem to take forever, when you have your heart set on a particular player. At the end of the day, you just work through your list, and if one player’s gone, you just move on. But it worked out well.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-17/tiger-draft-recall-jack-riewoldt
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Surely his time can be better used on scouting out kids or actually watching Jack ::). Send some low paid muppet to go see who's there, good use of our money
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Surely his time can be better used on scouting out kids or actually watching Jack ::). Send some low paid muppet to go see who's there, good use of our money
All TAC games would have been finished, so no TAC kids to scout.
Also got to remember back then he was basically it recruiting wise. So there was no point in sending a low paid "muppet" because we wouldn't have had one. And if we did because they were in those days just state based scouts they wouldn't have had a clue who the other clubs "muppets" were. ;D
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Jack Riewoldt raising the bar after avoiding post-season surgery
Alex Malcolm
afl.com.au
December 22, 2014 5:08 PM
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he is enjoying one of his best pre-seasons after not requiring post-season surgery for the first time in five years.
The two-time Coleman medallist told SEN he has been able to handle an increased running load this pre-season courtesy of being surgery-free.
Riewoldt, who has kicked 58 goals or more in each of the past five seasons, said he has had to develop his running capacity due to the demands of the modern game.
"This is the first time in five years that I've actually started pre-season with the main group on day one and I haven't missed a beat since then," Riewoldt said.
"It's not about me playing further up the group or me playing in a different position or stuff like that.
"It's the fact that if I want to continue to be a valued member of the football club, then I've got to push up the ground, I've got to defend and that's the same with all of our forwards and our backs and our mids.
"You can't be the guy that's just resting in the goalsquare anymore.
"If you want to play your part for the side you've got to work your butt off and it starts from day one in pre-season and hopefully it takes you through to that last Saturday in September."
The Tigers enjoyed a barnstorming finish to 2014, winning their last nine home and away games before being beaten by Port Adelaide in an elimination final.
Riewoldt admitted Port had shown Richmond just how hard players needed to train during the pre-season.
"The running loads and just general training loads for us have had to go up," Riewoldt said.
"That's just the modern game. We've followed on with a lot of clubs from that Port Adelaide philosophy of training hard and improving our running."
The Tigers took part in a seven-day training camp in Townsville before the Christmas break.
The players trained for three days before participating in a three-day 'Amazing Race' challenge organised by Richmond's elite performance manager Peter Burge.
Riewoldt said this year's challenge was not as fun as previous camps.
"It's more about pushing the boundaries and challenging our group in different ways," Riewoldt said.
"We've matured now as a group under the five years of Damien Hardwick and … we're starting to get to the stage where we expect more of each other and we know each man is capable of more, and I think the fitness staff and coaching staff have seen that. And that's why we've had the increased load and that's why we've been able to train ourselves to another standard."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-22/riewoldt-raising-the-bar
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RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he is enjoying one of his best pre-seasons after not requiring post-season surgery for the first time in five years.
:clapping I'm raising the bar too.
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^^^^
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RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt says he is enjoying one of his best pre-seasons after not requiring post-season surgery for the first time in five years.
:clapping I'm raising the bar too.
:thumbsup
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He'll be like a new recruit!
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He'll be like a new recruit!
Just like Foley! ;D
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Should bag 100+ and win a real Coleman with a full preseason
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More from Jack's interview today ...
* Pre-season at the moment is tough, as every club is going through at the moment. We’re just trying to tick off the sessions, and trying to improve in every session.
* It’s exciting at the moment. That group’s in a good spot. We’re looking forward to finishing some solid training over the next few months and getting into season 2015.
* Pre-season training has changed a lot since I started about eight years ago. You see a lot of clubs getting into pre-season mode with the balls, even in November.
* For us, it’s just continuing to work on the way we want to play, and doing drills based around that. We’ve got some guys that are training really well at the moment, and we’ll continue to work hard.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-01-15/hard-work-continues-for-tigers
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Should bag 100+ and win a real Coleman with a full preseason
He is moving magnificently atm. A fully fit Jack Riewoldt can be nothing but good for Richmond.
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I hope they don't play him up the ground again
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I hope they don't play him up the ground again
Richo Mk II. Have him play on the wing :shh
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I'd like a journo to ask if Jack would:-
A. Like to be part of the leadership group
B. If yes, share with us where his teammates and or coaches feel he needs to better show his leadership in order to be voted on that leadership team
Because he says all the right things and yet belongs in the "unofficial" leadership group - why?
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Coz he's a sooky clown that's why
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Can't deny that he points a good finger
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Big year again Jack. I think some underestimate the importance of Jack and the structure we are able to build around him. Would be in the top group of players in our team for mine.
Go Jack!!
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Big year again Jack. I think some underestimate the importance of Jack and the structure we are able to build around him. Would be in the top group of players in our team for mine.
Go Jack!!
Great post :thumbsup
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very talented footballer, don't know to many blokes who have won two colemans , they're rare
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Snip! Stick to the topic without the personal comments/insults ppl.
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Big year again Jack. I think some underestimate the importance of Jack and the structure we are able to build around him. Would be in the top group of players in our team for mine.
Go Jack!!
Yep, good post
Reckon it's pretty simple really, we are a better side with Jack in it that what would be without him
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Big year again Jack. I think some underestimate the importance of Jack and the structure we are able to build around him. Would be in the top group of players in our team for mine.
Go Jack!!
Yep, good post
Reckon it's pretty simple really, we are a better side with Jack in it that what would be without him
We are a better side with him in but I do think he needs to lift from last season. The stats for Jack lie as to his performances. Both for and against him. He does get to alot of contests that dont show up on the stats (like some other players, but we wont go into that) He has alot of little 1 percenters that again dont show up. On the negative side, he did have many games where he was missing until late in games, he got stats when they were not important as it was too late to influence the result. This is where I think he need to improve his performance. That and his kicking for goal at times. If Jack is elite (as some say) then he needs to just grab some games early, that was not there last year. Not easy I know but that's what elite players do.
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From Riewoldt's media conference at Elsternwick McDonald's today.
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
February 5, 2015
In May last year Riewoldt irked Hardwick by talking about how the Tigers' game plan was failing to stand up following their round nine loss to Melbourne.
Riewoldt memorably said the Tigers "went one way with our game and the game went the other", and claimed they had unsuccessfully tried to copy Hawthorn's renowned kicking game too much.
Hardwick said at the time the club was disappointed with Riewoldt's comments.
Riewoldt said his relationship with his coach had remained strong despite the hiccup last season and it had been a one-off occurrence for which he took responsibility.
"I wouldn't say it's been a bumpy ride; I'd say there was a small blip and that was on my behalf," he said.
"The coach and I obviously have a very good working, professional relationship and we're very good friends off the field as well.
"It's the great thing about our football club, that our culture is breeding characters that are very strong whether they be players or coaches."
Riewoldt also imposed a brief media ban on himself in February last year after he didn't like the way his attitude had been portrayed after missing out on being in the Tigers' leadership group.
He said he wasn't being distracted by such things this year.
"I'm solely focused on playing footy at the moment," he said.
"I'm just trying to put my best foot forward in pre-season and really set myself for a good 2015, which can hopefully lead the Tigers in the right direction."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-05/ty-to-fly-says-jack
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With the NAB Challenge just around the corner, Riewoldt gave the Tigers' pre-season campaign a tick of approval, with the disappointment of last year's brutal elimination final defeat at the hands of Port Adelaide a distant memory.
"It's not motivation for us (now)," he said.
"It is what it is - it's the past and we don't dwell in the past. For us it's about focusing on the pre-season and setting ourselves up strongly for 2015."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-05/que-sera-sera
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By the way, Jack has raffled off that train ticket he bought when he was trying to evade the media last year. He said, he hasn't caught the train since lol.
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-02-05/jack-raffles-train-ticket-
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DANGER MEN
[Those who impact the scoreboard the most at your club, as per Champion Data’s scoreboard index. Points based on scores and scores assists in 2014.
Club/Name/Points
Sydney Lance Franklin 546
Geelong Tom Hawkins 516
Adelaide Crows Eddie Betts 515
Hawthorn Luke Breust 506
Richmond Jack Riewoldt 495
West Coast Josh Kennedy 466
Port Adel Jay Schulz 453
Gold Coast Tom Lynch 439
St Kilda Nick Riewoldt 410
Fremantle Hayden Ballantyne 395
North Melb Drew Petrie 388
Collingwood Travis Cloke 347
Bris Lions Josh Green 307
Western Bulldogs Stewart Crameri 279
Carlton Lachie Henderson 266
GWS Giants Will Hoskin-Elliott 256
Essendon Jake Carlisle 228
Melbourne Chris Dawes 186
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-clubs-focus-on-ball-movement-results-in-lower-scores-during-nab-challenge/story-e6frfkp9-1227259005829
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Dermott Brereton turns the blowtorch on one name from every AFL club
Dermott Brereton
Herald Sun
March 14, 2015
EVERY player and coach will have questions asked of them in 2015, but some are bigger than others.
Hawthorn legend Dermott Brereton nominates one name from every club who could be the difference between success and failure this season. Can you name them?
RICHMOND
I am very talented but won’t be part of a premiership team unless I find a new role to play.
And, while I’m at it, I need to work on my body language, too.
This season is critical to the legacy I will leave at the club. Who am I?
Answer: Jack Riewoldt
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dermott-brereton-turns-the-blowtorch-on-one-name-from-every-afl-club/story-fnp04d70-1227261262244
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New role to play ? What the stuff is this muppet on about ?
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Maybe key defender to replace Rance?
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:banghead :banghead
One of our only consistently good performers over multiple years. Has shown he can play deep forward or an up the ground decoy role for that nuffer Vickery who more often than not doesn't make the most of it. Even his body language isn't as bad as it used to be and no one can get up and around the other guys like Jack does. To take one away you take the other
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Consistently good?
L M A O.
Captain of the train wreck
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Consistently good?
L M A O.
Captain of the train wreck
How many other forwards have kicked 50 goals every season for the past few years? Forget the stat but there aren't many. Don't let your hatred for Reiwoldt and the club get in the way of a good rant
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It's actually 60 goals or more in 4 of the past 5 seasons with a 58 thrown in the middle. Also rates highly in score assists.
Can be annoying but who cares. Buddy is an f wit so what?
Output matters.
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It's actually 60 goals or more in 4 of the past 5 seasons with a 58 thrown in the middle. Also rates highly in score assists.
Can be annoying but who cares. Buddy is an f wit so what?
Output matters.
:thumbsup
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It's actually 60 goals or more in 4 of the past 5 seasons with a 58 thrown in the middle. Also rates highly in score assists.
Can be annoying but who cares. Buddy is an f wit so what?
Output matters.
:thumbsup
x2. can never understand the angst toward jack. Good luck finding another forward in our team with those numbers
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It's actually 60 goals or more in 4 of the past 5 seasons with a 58 thrown in the middle. Also rates highly in score assists.
Can be annoying but who cares. Buddy is an f wit so what?
Output matters.
:thumbsup
x2. can never understand the angst toward jack. Good luck finding another forward in our team with those numbers
Try most other teams
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and yet the past few seasons we tried to play him as a decoy for Ty, fmd... :lol
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Yes masterstroke that one.
I understand the logic of finding other avenues but when that other avenue is vickery or hammer well its a pointless exercise to date.
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Another Hardwick 'gem'
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Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says forward Jack Riewoldt can be too selfless
Daniel Cherny
The Age
March 15, 2015
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says he has cautioned key forward Jack Riewoldt against being too selfless, but admires the team-focused nature of the goalkicker's game.
Riewoldt had 11 disposals and kicked a goal in his first game of the year as the Tigers trounced Port Adelaide by 66 points in Lavington. But the sharpshooter wasn't without further chances, failing twice to hit teammates with passes when within range himself.
Hardwick was pleased with the 26-year-old's game, but acknowledged that at times Riewoldt should be more goal-hungry.
"At stages he can be [too unselfish]," Hardwick said. "We spoke about that at various stages, but then he shepherds two balls across the line, which just goes to show his value to the side."
Hardwick was particularly impressed with Riewoldt's four tackles, and admitted that it was difficult to know where to draw the line in terms of selflessness.
"The ball use inside 50 wasn't great at stages. He probably gave off a couple and tried to give off a couple too much. He's very unselfish in that area, but his work rate was enormous."
"We were pleased. He had a great defensive chase-down tackle and set the scene early. He's going to have a good year."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-forward-jack-riewoldt-can-be-too-selfless-20150314-1448nj.html
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Well Damien, you have spent years making him like this instead of leaving him in the goal square to do what he does best!!!!!
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Thought Jack was great yesterday
His leading up, doubling back time and time again was brilliant
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Well Damien, you have spent years making him like this instead of leaving him in the goal square to do what he does best!!!!!
Pretty sure Hardwick is talking about Jack dishing off when he should have a shot on goal. How is that down to him playing further up the field?
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Ummm maybe he forgot he was near the goals
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yeah, quite possible that.
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:lol
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Well Damien, you have spent years making him like this instead of leaving him in the goal square to do what he does best!!!!!
Pretty sure Hardwick is talking about Jack dishing off when he should have a shot on goal. How is that down to him playing further up the field?
Jack was like that before Hardwick started playing him up the ground and spent so much time telling him to dish it off and not be selfish, Jack was kicking 4-6 each week when he was focusing on kicking goals. Now Hardwick is telling him to revert to that after changing him in the first place.
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Listen.
The only reason Jack became a disher is because he couldn't be the elite player that everyone expected, probably through laziness and stupidity.
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bah that's just stuffing rubbish
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Well Damien, you have spent years making him like this instead of leaving him in the goal square to do what he does best!!!!!
Pretty sure Hardwick is talking about Jack dishing off when he should have a shot on goal. How is that down to him playing further up the field?
Jack was like that before Hardwick started playing him up the ground and spent so much time telling him to dish it off and not be selfish, Jack was kicking 4-6 each week when he was focusing on kicking goals. Now Hardwick is telling him to revert to that after changing him in the first place.
good to see that you responded to a simple question in a way that didnt require an edit.
You are talking about two different things. Jack went overboard about being too selfless well before he was tried further up the ground, and hardwick has mentioned it before.
Two different issues completely.
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I hope the baggers we're watching Jack today. Our only forward who looked dangerous while most around him in the air or at ground level were ineffective.
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Was sensational today - BOG for mine
His gut running was a standout, pity a few others didn't show the same intensity
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I hope the baggers we're watching Jack today. Our only forward who looked dangerous while most around him in the air or at ground level were ineffective.
Don't watch praccies.
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Was sensational today - BOG for mine
His gut running was a standout, pity a few others didn't show the same intensity
x 2
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Cotchin said Jack Riewoldt's preseason had him primed to jump into the 2015 season.
The 26-year-old looked sharp and clinical in two cameo performances in the NAB Challenge.
"He's had a really positive pre-season, Jack, along with a lot of other key forwards," Cotchin said.
"They've set a new standard with their training, which is great to see.
"He's trimmed down a bit, he's moving well and hopefully we'll see him perform well."
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-captain-trent-cotchin-pays-tribute-to-saint-nick-riewoldt-20150326-1m80e0.html
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Round 1 big night for Jack ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-04-02/round-1-big-night-for-riewoldt
:thumbsup
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Jack is moving more like his old self again so far this year. Looks injury/niggle-free.
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They showed footage of him with his dad in the rooms after the game, it was quite emotional to watch.
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Yes great game form Jack, should shut up some of the doubters for a week. Still needs to get that FF selfish attitude though, should have had a shot at that goal...Great game though.
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
Just watched the first half agian now. I stand by it . I could go and get the exact times in the game if I wanted but is notworth it just for downgrading great to good.
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
Just watched the first half agian now. I stand by it . I could go and get the exact times in the game if I wanted but is notworth it just for downgrading great to good.
Well WP called his game "sensational" so how does that sit against "good"?????
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
Just watched the first half agian now. I stand by it . I could go and get the exact times in the game if I wanted but is notworth it just for downgrading great to good.
Well WP called his game "sensational" so how does that sit against "good"?????
Ill say what you said. Go watch the game again. If you cant see the few turn overs I mentioned then I really dont have anything more to say on the topic. Not sure pointing out these things and saying he had a good game is worth arguing about.
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
Just watched the first half agian now. I stand by it . I could go and get the exact times in the game if I wanted but is notworth it just for downgrading great to good.
Well WP called his game "sensational" so how does that sit against "good"?????
I called his NAB game back on the 21st March sensational not last nights
Haven't comment at all his game last night which was excellent
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Overall good game from Jack but I wouldn't call it great. The first half he turned it over a few times with kicks straight to opposition players or trying to be too cute. These are the only things that will stop me putting him in the votes.Will take 4 goals a game from him thats for sure.
Go watch the game again.
Just watched the first half agian now. I stand by it . I could go and get the exact times in the game if I wanted but is notworth it just for downgrading great to good.
Well WP called his game "sensational" so how does that sit against "good"?????
Ill say what you said. Go watch the game again. If you cant see the few turn overs I mentioned then I really dont have anything more to say on the topic. Not sure pointing out these things and saying he had a good game is worth arguing about.
Good points Fluffy and turnovers like that in the second quarter by Jack can switch momentum back to the opposition very quickly.
Having said that, I'd take his overall numbers last night.
If that's the standard for the entire season then he will be in for a cracking 2015
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Too stupid
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Did a hell of a lot of work around the ground, very Richo-esque circa 2008. Was one of the main reasons we stayed in the game early on I thought.
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Was very good, still could be more selfish in front of goal.
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Probably one of the better games l have seen Jack play. Worked hard for the team & work well with team mates & was in the right spot blocking at times. l would to see more of this Jack Rewoldt playing :thumbsup :gotigers
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Solid game.
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Desc Date Opponent Venue Crowd Result Margin Disposals Goals
Round 1 Thu 2 Apr 7:20pm Blues MCG 83493 Win 105-78 27 T. Hunt 27
J. Riewoldt 4
Round 2 Sat 11 Apr 1:45pm Bulldogs MCG 49945 Loss 66-85 19 T. Cotchin 34
J. Riewoldt 2
Round 3 Sat 18 Apr 7:20pm Lions Gabba 22441 Win 137-58 79 T. Cotchin 37
J. Riewoldt 4
Round 4 Fri 24 Apr 7:50pm Demons MCG 58175 Loss 51-83 32 A. Miles 25
S. Edwards 2
Round 5 Sat 2 May 1:45pm Cats MCG 45228 Loss 76-85 9 B. Houli 33
B. Ellis 33
J. Riewoldt 3
Round 6 Sat 9 May 1:45pm Kangaroos Blundstone Arena 17544 Loss 74-109 35 D. Martin 30
A. Miles 30
J. Riewoldt 3
Round 7 Sun 17 May 3:20pm Magpies MCG 59034 Win 105-100 5 T. Cotchin 32
J. Riewoldt 4
Round 8 Sun 24 May 4:10pm Power Adelaide Oval 45268 Win 76-43 33 B. Ellis 31
J. Riewoldt 4
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great game from Jack tonight. :clapping
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Too stupid
He's starting to make you look stupid.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFwx0HgWMAA-v2z.jpg)
https://twitter.com/3AWisfootball/status/602411578168868864/photo/1
On ya Jack! :thumbsup
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFwx0HgWMAA-v2z.jpg)
https://twitter.com/3AWisfootball/status/602411578168868864/photo/1
On ya Jack! :thumbsup
wayne carey-esque
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Too stupid
He's starting to make you look stupid.
Not need to get personal.
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The best game l have ever seen him play no doubt. l like him roaming around the ground. His talent has been truely wasted all these years sitting at FF.
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
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Depth of input, value and quality around the ground was just.....wow
Did I mention leadership?
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Poo comment.
Loyal tiger.
BOG tonight
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Poo comment.
Loyal tiger.
BOG tonight
Sad isn't it
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Poo comment.
Loyal tiger.
BOG tonight
Sad isn't it
Wish we had more idiots like him.
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me thinks i like the idiot :bow
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Too stupid
He's starting to make you look stupid.
Not need to get personal.
Okay to bag the player eh Dooks?
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Poo comment.
Loyal tiger.
BOG tonight
Spot on comment.
His after match interview was as bad as his game was good.
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
He is no idiot and I will tell you he is a great guy who is always willing to take the time to have a chat. He is a ripping young man and very down to earth :thumbsup
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
He is no idiot and I will tell you he is a great guy who is always willing to take the time to have a chat. He is a ripping young man and very down to earth :thumbsup
Don't bother he's just trolling
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Based on what?
Coming from the bloke who called Grimes a dog for his push to that poor dazed bloke LMAO
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Based on what?
Coming from the bloke who called Grimes a dog for his push to that poor dazed bloke LMAO
Based on every thing he ever says or does off the field, on TV and in person.
Like I said, good player, excellent game tonight but he is a knob.
And the Grimes thing was a dog act. You don't push a bloke who is down on the ground injured.
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Good to see some mongrel in the boys, need more of it
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Complete all round game tonight front and back, disciplined and attacking.
Played within his limitations and made it work for him with some spectacular marks. :thumbsup
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I thought Grimes push,shove,whatever was no biggie.Actually don't mind seeing mongrel in our blokes..For way to many years we have been the Mr nice guy of the AFL
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He is no idiot and I will tell you he is a great guy who is always willing to take the time to have a chat. He is a ripping young man and very down to earth :thumbsup
Absolutely agree :thumbsup
Brilliant this evening
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Based on what?
Coming from the bloke who called Grimes a dog for his push to that poor dazed bloke LMAO
Based on every thing he ever says or does off the field, on TV and in person.
Like I said, good player, excellent game tonight but he is a knob.
And the Grimes thing was a dog act. You don't push a bloke who is down on the ground injured.
Jack is a nice bloke.
He's a smart footballer as well as a skilled one. There are many forms of intelligence.
And what do you want Grimes to do? Help the bloke up and cup his balls for him? It's AFL. There was nothing in it and if you've ever played footy that kind of thing goes down like the sun - every single day!
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:gotigers
Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Poo comment.
Loyal tiger.
BOG tonight
Spot on comment.
His after match interview was as bad as his game was good.
You're an astute poster TBR. I generally rate your opinions. But your personal vendetta poo is garbage.
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The best game l have ever seen him play no doubt. l like him roaming around the ground. His talent has been truely wasted all these years sitting at FF.
Yep!! :thumbsup
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Based on what?
Coming from the bloke who called Grimes a dog for his push to that poor dazed bloke LMAO
Based on every thing he ever says or does off the field, on TV and in person.
Like I said, good player, excellent game tonight but he is a knob.
And the Grimes thing was a dog act. You don't push a bloke who is down on the ground injured.
everyone can have an opinion but to call jack a knob is a knob statement. Said it before and will say it again, jack away from footy is a ripping fella, one of the best in fact.
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Can play but my word he is a idiot.
Based on what?
Coming from the bloke who called Grimes a dog for his push to that poor dazed bloke LMAO
Based on every thing he ever says or does off the field, on TV and in person.
Like I said, good player, excellent game tonight but he is a knob.
And the Grimes thing was a dog act. You don't push a bloke who is down on the ground injured.
everyone can have an opinion but to call jack a knob is a knob statement. Said it before and will say it again, jack away from footy is a ripping fella, one of the best in fact.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My experience of him is different.
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TBR, maybe you're the knob? Don't mean any disrespect but if several posters are disagreeing with your view then possibly it is you who is the problem as the rest of the world sees Jack as a ripping bloke.
I could be very wrong and apologise in advance if I am
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B.O.G :clapping
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Very possible.
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Heard stories of jack being a knob and heard stories of him being a legend. Guess he's a human.
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I'm Titch's no1 fan but Jack is my favourite player.
Such a good footballer & heart and soul of the Tigers.
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Jack named in the AFL website's team of the week for his 4 goals, 9 marks (5 inside F50) and 5 inside 50s.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/team-of-the-week-round-eight
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My experience of him is different.
I tend to agree with you. Couple of experiences with Jack, non of them pleasant
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My experience of him is different.
I tend to agree with you. Couple of experiences with Jack, non of them pleasant
who gives a poo?
hes sposed to play football good not be your best friend
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::)
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He does need a bestie.....
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Matthew Richardson, who booted 800 goals in his 282 games for the Tigers, said key forward Jack Riewoldt was playing the best footy of his career.
“I think Jack is in as good form as he’s ever been in,’’ Richardson said.
“He’s not going out and kicking seven or eight goals, but he’s kicking his two or three each week, but more than that it’s just his work rate, his preparedness to share the ball, he is setting up a lot of goals as well.
“Just his general demeanour out on the ground, he just seems to be really leading that forward line group, I think he is having a really good year.’’
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/matthew-richardson-to-be-inducted-into-richmonds-hall-of-fame/story-fndv8t7m-1227404578000
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Richmond Tigers Jack Riewoldt changing role
Daniel Cherny
The Age
June 26, 2015
A Richmond spearhead known at times to wear his heart on his sleeve has monopolised the club's goalkicking award for most of his career. But when more forward options presented, the player was at last allowed to roam far and wide.
That was how it panned out in 2008, when Terry Wallace famously sent veteran Matthew Richardson up the ground. It was a move that led the Tigers to the cusp of a finals berth, Richardson to within an "umpire's call" of a Brownlow Medal. In the middle of that season then Richmond football boss Greg Miller explained the club's goalkicking succession plan to sports website The Roar.
"We've recruited some key forwards and key big men to aim for, they're competing at the moment and it's a very healthy environment," said Miller.
"With Richo not being in the forward line as much, it's opening up opportunities for these guys to show us what they're worth."
One of those young forwards was Jack Riewoldt.
Seven years later, history is repeating itself. At least to an extent.
Riewoldt is only 26, and should have plenty more goals to add to his current tally of 409 in yellow and black. But in the past six weeks, he's been jettisoned away from the forward 50, spending more time outside the arc than ever at AFL level.
Since Richardson's retirement at the end of 2009, Riewoldt has missed only one game. In each of the five subsequent completed seasons, he acquired no less than 57.7 per cent of his possessions inside 50. This trend had been continuing during the season's first six weeks, during which the dual Coleman Medallist he had won 63 per cent of his touches inside the arc.
In round 7, Hardwick decided to add a pair of forwards in Ty Vickery and Liam McBean. Every week since, two of Vickery, McBean and Ben Griffiths have spent large chunks of the game forward for the Tigers. Riewoldt has been sent packing. Between rounds 7 and 12, only 32.4 per cent of his possessions have been won inside 50. In the Friday night upset of Fremantle three weeks ago, just two of Riewoldt's possessions were gained forward.
Richo eat your heart out!
The move looks to be working. Richmond won four in a row between rounds 7 and 10, before being knocked off by West Coast last weekend after the Tigers' round 11 bye. Griffiths and Vickery have overcome injuries, and after seven and six years on the Richmond list respectively, both are playing their part in the revamped Tiger machine, combining for 13 goals across a combined eight matches since round 7.
Hardwick spoke on Thursday about the advantages of playing all three talls.
"They're all different in the way they play... They cover cover the ground well for three bigger players," he said.
He elaborated on how important it is for Vickery and Griffiths to remain threats up forward, explaining how in the past it wasn't possible to push Riewoldt away from full forward.
"I've been trying to get it into [Riewoldt's] game probably for a period of time. The fact of the matter is that we've needed to play him deeper at stages because he's been a lone hand up forward. With the inclusion of Griffiths and Vickery kicking goals, it's allowed us to get him up the ground."
And just what is it that free-range Riewoldt provides to the Tigers? According to his coach, much of the benefit comes in the form of nous.
"He's an incredibly smart player, his ability to use the ball and find options inside 50 is probably a little bit understated at various stages. We're really happy he can still go deep and kick goals for us but he's got the flexibility of playing up the ground also."
The significance of Riewoldt's shift shouldn't be understated. After all, this is a player who in 2010 amassed 78 goals and claimed the Coleman Medal in a 15th-placed team. The next-best Tiger that year was Andrew Collins. He kicks 15 that season before being traded to Carlton.
You can get odds of $126 at corporate bookmaker CrownBet for Riewoldt to match Richardson's 2008 feat and place in the Brownlow. Don't say it hasn't happened before.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-jack-riewoldt-changing-role-20150625-ghxvq2.html
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Brilliant tonight Jack :bow and it was a 4 quarter effort unlike many of his teammates. The knockers in the media bagging his attitude have gone very quiet this year.
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:cheers
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This is the jack we all wanted back. Having a great season
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This is the jack we all wanted back. Having a great season
He is far more well rounded now, than ever before
The package
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Jack Riewoldt in career best form, Richmond reaps rewards of Tiger’s work rate
Herald-Sun
June 28, 2015
AFL legend Wayne Carey says Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt is in career-best form as the Tigers prepare to make an assault on the top-four.
Richmond fought back from 32 points down at half time to upset Sydney Swans on Friday night and register arguably the club’s most spirited win under coach Damien Hardwick.
The third consecutive on-the-road victory lifted the Tigers to 7-5, helping setup a shot at the top-four over the next three weeks against Greater Western Sydney, Carlton and St Kilda.
Full-forward Riewoldt bagged six goals against the Swans, and according to Carey, showed a level of work-rate off the ball and leadership never before seen in his previous eight seasons.
“He’s playing the best footy of his career,” Carey said on Triple M yesterday.
“It’s all about his work rate, the way he is getting around the ground and the work that he puts in before he takes marks.
“He has actually gone to another level. His decision-making, the way he uses the ball and his leadership.”
Riewoldt, 26, won Coleman Medals in 2010 and 2012 and has led the Tigers’ goal kicking for the past five-straight seasons.
But the Tigers’ 2010 best and fairest winner’s body language has been a hot topic in the past, with Carlton triple premiership player Mark Maclure labelling the forward a “Primma Donna” in 2013.
Riewoldt was omitted from the leadership group the following season and activated a self-imposed media ban, but is this season on track to record his second All-Australian berth.
Carey said Riewoldt was having a profound influence on the team that has won 16 of its last 22 games, including nine-straight victories to secure a miracle finals berth last season.
“Everything about Jack Riewoldt now says to me he is a future leader of this footy club, he is seriously that good,” Carey said.
Riewoldt has booted 34 goals for the season, and is ranked third in the league for scoreboard impact and marks inside-50m this season, according to Champion Data.
Re-signed key defender Alex Rance is also in All-Australian form after restricting reported superstar Lance Franklin to one possession after the main change.
Rance is ranked third in the league for intercept possessions.
Coach Damien Hardwick said he gave the troops a half-time rev-up after a poor second quarter.
“We had a few probably stern words at half time to make sure we came out with the right attitude,” Hardwick said.
“We went over a few things that we weren’t doing well.
“I thought the guys showed great poise and character to come back.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-in-career-best-form-richmond-reaps-rewards-of-tigers-work-rate/story-fndv8t7m-1227417997276
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Great to see Jack commit for three more years - http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-30/jack-riewoldt-commits
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Great to see Jack commit for three more years - http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-30/jack-riewoldt-commits
:clapping Great Clubman, Well done
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And he's on good coin too. That helps
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And he's on good coin too. That helps
Yeah but.....
media reporting he could of got a lot more on the open market
Jack's loyalty can never be questioned
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the best one touch footballer in the game
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If you wouldn't already, if we see this gentleman anywhere we buy him a drink and tell him how much we love him.
He will finish his career at RFC by the looks of things.
Could of taken any where up to 800 - 1Mil and in stead signed to not let a free agency fiasco go on.
For what it is worth this club is going places!!!
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Tigers general manager of football Dan Richardson said it was a big step forward for the club’s future.
“To secure Jack for an extra three years is a great result for the club, and all Richmond fans,” he said.
“Jack qualified for free agency at the end of 2016, but he had no interest in playing anywhere but Richmond, and had no hesitation in extending his contract.
“To extend his contract demonstrates a great faith by Jack in the direction the club is heading, and his willingness to be a part of it.
“Jack has been an incredibly consistent performer on field during his career so far, and has grown to become one of our most respected leaders.”
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Riewoldt, who has added a new dimension to his game in 2015, said he had no hesitation signing a contract extension.
“Loyal is probably one of the words I would have if I wanted myself described by other people,” Riewoldt told Matthew Richardson on Roar Vision.
“It’s certainly something that I feel like I’ve shown for the football Club.
“They’ve been great for me too. They’ve been there for a large chunk of my life, and my family and partner’s life.
“It’s been a great ride so far. We haven’t had as much success as we would’ve liked, but the way we’re playing this year, and what I can see in some of the younger players that are signing on and playing footy for the Tiges, it’s certainly exciting times ahead.”
“I’m absolutely rapt that the Club came to me and showed interest in me signing an extension,” he said.
“The most important thing for me is just to get this stuff over and done with. I jumped at it pretty quickly.
“For me it’s been about getting the Tigers going in the right direction, and ultimately reaching the goals and successes we want.
“The Club’s heading in the right direction. It’s exciting times for us. We’ve been playing some pretty good footy on the field.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-will-stay-at-richmond-until-end-of-2019-after-signing-contract-extension/story-fndv8t7m-1227422150637
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-30/jack-riewoldt-out-of-2016-free-agency-mix-after-signing-threeyear-extension
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-30/jack-jumped-at-contract-commitment
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Great to see Jack commit for three more years - http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-30/jack-riewoldt-commits
Fantastic result this, best clubman we have, eats, lives and breaths the RFC. I have always loved this bloke. This is great news.
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
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Jack says it's the supporters who put pressure on the players
Hopefully it's helps him play to what he is capable of.
He showed where his heart is by the loyalty to Richmond , it's players and its supporters
I hope we give the same support back in the next few years.
Go Jacky Boy!!!!
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
LOL
FUNNIEST POST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED
GOLD
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
I have to say this is quite funny!!!
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
:lol
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
grigg and chaplin signed till 2018 by the end of the week
:pray
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Cops way too much flak from people. Is a star
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#loyalty
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
LOL
FUNNIEST POST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED
GOLD
x 2 :clapping
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
LOL
FUNNIEST POST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED
GOLD
x 2 :clapping
What the f... are you lot on about??
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Very good news.
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
LOL
FUNNIEST POST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED
GOLD
x 2 :clapping
What the f... are you lot on about??
:rollin
Stop it, I can't breath... :rollin
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Is that everyone on long term deals now?
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
LOL
FUNNIEST POST YOU HAVE EVER POSTED
GOLD
x 2 :clapping
What the f... are you lot on about??
:rollin
Stop it, I can't breath... :rollin
You can't spell either.
:lol
I must be a bit backward as I don't get the belittlement going on, not sure what I said, perhaps you could help WP seeing you are part of the belittling????
Yes HRT go and learn how to spell first you dim wit before you have a go at others.
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Jack will go down as a tiger legend
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I must be a bit backward as I don't get the belittlement going on, not sure what I said, perhaps you could help WP seeing you are part of the belittling????
Sorry WAT but there is no belittling going on at all, certainly not from me. Not sure what makes you think there is
Obviously you don't realise it but intentional or not your post is actually very witty & funny and I for one reckon it's priceless
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
If it helps
Considering the angst the majority on here have with Newy getting picked last week and the view that he should retire that last bit highlighted is very funny....
Just see it as a great one liner
Or to put it another way :sarcasm
As I said intentionl or not :thatsgold
:clapping :bow
:cheers
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WAT if you'd just left it alone everyone would've thought you were a comic genius....
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WAT if you'd just left it alone everyone would've thought you were a comic genius....
Yes thanks, well I should have. Gee just for once I was actually trying to give another poster an honest answer.
Poor old Newman, just no love for him is there.. :lol
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I must be a bit backward as I don't get the belittlement going on, not sure what I said, perhaps you could help WP seeing you are part of the belittling????
Sorry WAT but there is no belittling going on at all, certainly not from me. Not sure what makes you think there is
Obviously you don't realise it but intentional or not your post is actually very witty & funny and I for one reckon it's priceless
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
If it helps
Considering the angst the majority on here have with Newy getting picked last week and the view that he should retire that last bit highlighted is very funny....
Just see it as a great one liner
Or to put it another way :sarcasm
As I said intentionl or not :thatsgold
:clapping :bow
:cheers
:-[ :-[ :-[.........Yes I get it, thought that's what it was but around here who can be sure.. ;D ;D
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It's not good enough that he MAY be let go at the end of the year.
Until then he get gifted games because he's an arse licker.
FHO now
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I must be a bit backward as I don't get the belittlement going on, not sure what I said, perhaps you could help WP seeing you are part of the belittling????
Sorry WAT but there is no belittling going on at all, certainly not from me. Not sure what makes you think there is
Obviously you don't realise it but intentional or not your post is actually very witty & funny and I for one reckon it's priceless
I think Edwards signed so it may be just Newman left?
If it helps
Considering the angst the majority on here have with Newy getting picked last week and the view that he should retire that last bit highlighted is very funny....
Just see it as a great one liner
Or to put it another way :sarcasm
As I said intentionl or not :thatsgold
:clapping :bow
:cheers
Hey look '65, Willy can't spell either. WGAF.
WAT, honestly thought you were kidding, no offence intended.
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Okay ppl! Back to the thread topic of discussing Jack Riewoldt's form and re-signing.
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Reckon Jack is having his most consistent and productive year. On track to kick his 60 goals while creating space behind him to allow Tybone and Griff to have an impact in our F50.
Has also had impact in our D50 at crucial times in games.
Currently the most rounded key forward in the comp. :thumbsup
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league record goals Saturday :snidegrin
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Jack's apparently the best kick on his non-dominant side in the AFL. He kicks with his left foot 21% of the time (most at RFC) and is 10.9% above AFL average in effectiveness with it.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/the-inquirer-left-or-right
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It's great news that he's already signed shows that he's truly on board with the direction of the club. Very clever player that always seems a step ahead of his team mates at times & he has become the consummate team man sometimes to the detriment to his own game.
I think when his career is over he will be regarded as one of our best.
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It's great news that he's already signed shows that he's truly on board with the direction of the club. Very clever player that always seems a step ahead of his team mates at times & he has become the consummate team man sometimes to the detriment to his own game.
I think when his career is over he will be regarded as one of our best.
Yep football wise, very smart guy
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when he just plays his own game, relying on his own instincts , he is not overly team orientated to the detriment of his own game, he generally makes the right decision.
It's only when he has others in his ear he starts second guessing himself and making decisions based on what he thinks others want him to do that this happens.
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Gun :bow He is enormous :gotigers
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Jack copped a knee to his hip in the 2nd quarter last night. Played out the game but was hampered with a hip flexor injury. Hopefully, he'll be alright for next week but Dimma didn't say it with any real certainty :-\.
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Jack copped a knee to his hip in the 2nd quarter last night. Played out the game but was hampered with a hip flexor injury. Hopefully, he'll be alright for next week but Dimma didn't say it with any real certainty :-\.
My mail is he's 50/50
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My mail is I don't have any mail on this. But if I did have mail and he wasn't right to go I would have other mail delivered saying McBean should play instead. :snidegrin
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My mail is I don't have any mail on this. But if I did have mail and he wasn't right to go I would have other mail delivered saying McBean should play instead. :snidegrin
So the mail is you don't have the mail, but if you did have the mail thats what you think the mail would be😏
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Ch 7 news tonight stated the Club said Jack will be okay despite the knock. Not that that's any guarantee based on past history reporting injuries :-\.
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My mail is I don't have any mail on this. But if I did have mail and he wasn't right to go I would have other mail delivered saying McBean should play instead. :snidegrin
So the mail is you don't have the mail, but if you did have the mail thats what you think the mail would be😏
:snidegrin :snidegrin :thumbsup
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My mail is,
If u can't get the ball in the forward half
U not going kick goals
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My mail is,
If u can't get the ball in the forward half
U not going kick goals
You mean get the ball INTO the forward half. FFS, for the fist half of the game poor old Jack was playing up past the wing, into their forward line. I was bemused at this.
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He is not right, but will show up this week.
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Speaking of Jack, it's his birthday today. He's 27 :birthday.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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Happy Birthday Jack. :clapping 2 years left for a premiership :birthday
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Jack Riewoldt's goalkicking action:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-01-14/riewoldts-goalkicking-action
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Looks ripped as
:shh
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Slaying it
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The media bag him for being passionate during a game ::) but Jack is simply a gun!
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Looking very slick.
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The media bag him for being passionate during a game ::) but Jack is simply a gun!
Totally agree
Even to think he should be captain
He is a leader 😉
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The media bag him for being passionate during a game ::) but Jack is simply a gun!
Wasn't only the media who bagged JR, would be some gold comments from the susposed experts earlier in this thread
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Totally over rated player that started by being over rated by media commentators and blissfully followed by the herd mentality of the public. He is a very ordinary footballer that unfortunatly for us has a relationship and name that links to a real one.
Visionary
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#ouch
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Another player we just have to keep playing this year regardless of form.
At least someone stuck up for him
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Jack Riewoldt should be hitting his peak and can drive Richmond to greatness
RON REED
Herald Sun
February 27, 2016 8:15pm
IT’S never too early to get the Richmond bandwagon on the road.
And when it’s Jack Riewoldt with the ignition key in his hands, nobody is safe from being run over — not even the reigning premiers.
Read what you will into a 71-point thrashing of a Hawthorn team missing almost half the 22 Grand Final heroes — resting, injured or retired — in a glorified practice match, but the black and yellow faithful can be easily excused if they broke into their famous song on the ride home from the NAB Challenge hitout in Beaconsfield.
There were plenty of reasons for the euphoria but none more impressive than Jack’s captivating contribution.
He is, of course, a cult hero for the Tigers, much like Matthew Richardson before him.
But there is a sense that his best might still be yet to come, and if that proves to be correct then the Tigers’ long flag drought will be that much closer to closure.
At 27 and entering his 10th season, with 180 games behind him, the multi-skilled forward should be at the peak of his powers and as experienced as he will ever really be.
He missed the deflating 60-point loss to Fremantle last week, as did a number of other stars who began their campaigns with immediate impact, no one more than Dustin Martin, Riewoldt’s main rival for best afield.
Riewoldt led the way from the opening bounce, taking six marks in the first quarter, four of them contested, with one qualifying as a screamer.
James Frawley seemed to have most responsibility for shutting him down but it was hard to tell as Riewoldt covered plenty of ground, the warm conditions having no noticeable effect.
He was looking impressively fit and maybe even a little lighter.
The highlight came midway through the second quarter when he ran around an opponent and unleashed a booming kick that travelled at least 55m for the only nine-point supergoal of the afternoon.
Jack Riewoldt was outstanding for the Tigers with 10 marks, a goal and a supergoal. Picture: Getty Images
That put the Tigers 20 points in front and given that they were exerting significant superiority in almost every statistical category, it was to all intents and purposes the end of the contest.
By the time Richmond had wrapped it up 1.15.5.104 to 4.9.33, Riewoldt had accumulated 12 kicks, five handballs, 10 marks — half of which were contested — two goals and five score assists.
Half a dozen other piled up more stats as the Tigers dominated the latter stages but there was no doubt who set the tone when the issue was still up for grabs.
Given that the missing Hawks — basking in the sunshine — included at least three of their regular matchwinners, skipper Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell and Jarryd Roughhead, the Hawk fans would not be losing all that much sleep. But a 12-goal defeat is never easy to stomach.
The hosts, the Beaconsfield Football Club, which plays in the Mornington Peninsula Nepean League, were probably happy with the result because two of their three best-known former players, Chris Newman and Shane Tuck, are former Tigers, although Newman is now on the Hawthorn coaching staff. Their other big name is Brendan Fevola, while one-time Test cricketer Len Maddocks was also a local at one stage.
The well-appointed ground easily accommodated a pleasing crowd of 6384, with the black-and-yellow colours probably outnumbering the brown and gold narrowly. But as the afternoon wore on, there was no question who was making the most noise.
The Tigers are on the prowl — already.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-should-be-hitting-his-peak-and-can-drive-richmond-to-greatness/news-story/62d9c901d46d15f5a43d72289a1d8f20
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Will be remembered as a club legend.
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Looked like a Rolls Royce out there today.
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Another player we just have to keep playing this year regardless of form.
At least someone stuck up for him
:clapping
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Jack has always been a champion.
He is hungry for a Premiership and that is all he cares about!
Always has been a leader!
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
Good post :clapping
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cause you edited the bit out him never being a key forward under the clawski vision
destined to be a 3rd forward
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sheesh hes 21 shown plenty every yr. has only just matured physically with still a bit more size to add.hes regularly double teamed and there is no other help in the forward line or structure.
people say hes lazy but i just dont see it.if anyone has cause to drop his bundle each week it would be jack, again i just dont see it.
people dont realise just how good a player he is. hes done more than enough in his first 3 yrs.
hes one of very few who you could pencil in as a definate projecting 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
Good post :clapping
Yep gr8 post.
FFS he is awesome in all that he does and awesome to watch, even my 6 year old son has vision of him winning a flag.
Go JACK :clapping
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Have been wanting him to captain the side for a while, with Rance as vice.
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Have been wanting him to captain the side for a while, with Rance as vice.
Yes please !!!
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
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Bum delist asap :snidegrin
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
I think it's great when your players act like leaders when they're not captains or vices or in the leadership group at all, yes definitely that lifts a side. You don't have to be captain to lead.
But it doesn't go both ways - you can't have a captain who doesn't lead when the heat is on, and it brings the side down when they fall short. Cotchin is a great footballer but probably would be better off without the captaincy IMO.
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
I think it's great when your players act like leaders when they're not captains or vices or in the leadership group at all, yes definitely that lifts a side. You don't have to be captain to lead.
But it doesn't go both ways - you can't have a captain who doesn't lead when the heat is on, and it brings the side down when they fall short. Cotchin is a great footballer but probably would be better off without the captaincy IMO.
But he has lifted when the heat is on and one of those was an EF which is more than can be said for 75% of his team mates
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
I think it's great when your players act like leaders when they're not captains or vices or in the leadership group at all, yes definitely that lifts a side. You don't have to be captain to lead.
But it doesn't go both ways - you can't have a captain who doesn't lead when the heat is on, and it brings the side down when they fall short. Cotchin is a great footballer but probably would be better off without the captaincy IMO.
Got 22 kicks in a EF
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Cotch on Ch 9 news the other day praising Jack:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-02-29/cotchins-praise-for-jack
“He’s growing as a player, he’s growing as a person, and he’s growing as a leader. That’s what we love about Jack. He’s continually getting better. The challenge is for all of us to play the way he does consistently. You see some of his antics on-field, and people question him every now and then. But, deep down, it comes back to the love he has for our football club.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-01/captain-cotchin-commends-jack
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
I think it's great when your players act like leaders when they're not captains or vices or in the leadership group at all, yes definitely that lifts a side. You don't have to be captain to lead.
But it doesn't go both ways - you can't have a captain who doesn't lead when the heat is on, and it brings the side down when they fall short. Cotchin is a great footballer but probably would be better off without the captaincy IMO.
Got 22 kicks in a EF
Is 22 better than 9? Probably
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You could make a pretty sound argument rance should be captian
At the end of the day it's a bollocks title
Hodge was still the leader when Mitchell was captiAn. You don't need the official role to lead
I think it's great when your players act like leaders when they're not captains or vices or in the leadership group at all, yes definitely that lifts a side. You don't have to be captain to lead.
But it doesn't go both ways - you can't have a captain who doesn't lead when the heat is on, and it brings the side down when they fall short. Cotchin is a great footballer but probably would be better off without the captaincy IMO.
Got 22 kicks in a EF
Is 22 better than 9? Probably
Robert Klomp won a tv set in 1981 for being BOG and he only had 9 possessions! :snidegrin
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Riewoldt has not trimmed down ahead of the 2016 season like other forwards, including his cousin Nick at St Kilda, but he was prepared for a season of extended running because of reduced rotations.
He made a brilliant start to his NAB Challenge campaign against Hawthorn last weekend with 10 marks and 17 possessions and will play in the club's final pre-season game against Port Adelaide on Friday night at Etihad Stadium.
"I know that I've got a really big job to do this year for the football club to improve again and get to where we want to go," he said.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-06/jack-riewoldt-happy-to-be-trumped-in-richmond-leadership-race)
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“I’m actually weighing around about what I was last year,” Riewoldt said.
“Two years ago, I had a bit of a shift in body weight change. That was a focus of mine, and I know a lot of the other guys are going along that line as well.
“I think it’s due to the fact training has got a lot harder than what it was. The shift in AFL over the last decade has been a fairly large one, and our bodies have had to adapt to that.
“Long gone are the big key forwards. We’ve still got a couple in the game that really dominate, but long gone are the days of the stay-at-home key forward.
“It’s about team defence and team offence these days, and you’ve got to be able to run.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-07/riewoldt-adapting-his-body
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With a reduction in rotations I reckon a stay-at-home key forward sounds nice. Can't have all these lightweights running up and down the wings all day. Need a Cloke/Hawkins/Walker style KPF in the square...
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Keep him in the goal square so we can see him fly high and kick a ton this season. He's awesome to watch and he's inspires so many around him.
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With a reduction in rotations I reckon a stay-at-home key forward sounds nice. Can't have all these lightweights running up and down the wings all day. Need a Cloke/Hawkins/Walker style KPF in the square...
Enter Reece McKenzie
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Unfortunately Big Reece has been granted leave for "personal issues" and may not return...
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Unfortunately Big Reece has been granted leave for "personal issues" and may not return...
Source please
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Unfortunately Big Reece has been granted leave for "personal issues" and may not return...
Source please
certainly was conspicuous by his absence on Sunday
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Dioc is correct. At least, that's what I'm hearing too.
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Source? I bumped into Bojo at Curves... :shh
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Dioc is correct. At least, that's what I'm hearing too.
That's fine
But the Club have not made any official comment one way or another so I just think until they do we should respect the situation for what it is ..... and respect the people involved
Will leave it at that
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whats the point of a discussion forum then?
we could just use the club official website
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whats the point of a discussion forum then?
we could just use the club official website
they wont have us
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whats the point of a discussion forum then?
we could just use the club official website
As is often the case you've missed the point again
I actually made a comment about this the other week when a thread was started about this very topic by Jack
this is what I posted
If our Club thinks it needs to say something it will.
I got whacked around the ears during "chopstick gate" with comments that I wasn't supprting one of our own because I called his actions stupid. Alot of folks suggested we should always support our own no matter what the circumstances....
Don't think this sort of innuendo is "supporting our own"
Just think it's important in this case to show some respect and support
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whats the point of a discussion forum then?
we could just use the club official website
As is often the case you've missed the point again
Wp, you are hurting my feelings >:(
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Barrett wants Jack in the goalsquare:
Richmond
IF ........ we’re Hardwick
THEN .... we're sticking Riewoldt in the goalsquare and we're telling him this: you've got a licence to kick goals.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-01/sliding-doors-round-two-2016
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Jack good in last quarter but too quiet earlier in the game
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Jack on AFL 360:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-27/riewoldt-ankle-update
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Riewoldt’s resolute race against time
richmondfc.com.au
27 April 2016
Star Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt is determined to take his place in the Tigers’ line-up for Saturday night’s big clash with Port Adelaide at the MCG.
Riewoldt, who badly rolled his ankle in a marking contest during the final quarter of Richmond’s loss to Melbourne last Sunday night, is working around the clock to ensure he’s right to go against the Power.
“At the moment, it’s still a little bit swollen . . . I want to play. I’ll give myself every chance to get up and play on the weekend . . . I really feel like I’m giving myself every chance to play,” Riewoldt said on Fox Footy’s ‘AFL 360’ program.
Riewoldt described the regime he’s undertaken in a bid to prove his fitness for Saturday night’s match.
“Every two hours just get up and try and get some ice on it . . . You want to get some movement back in it and, most importantly, you want to get the swelling out of it,” he said.
“You want to get some range back in your ankle because, obviously, if it’s swollen you lose a lot of your range and your calf starts to get affected from that as well.
“So, it’s a lot of physio, a lot of walking in deep water, for the compression, more than the actual coldness of the water . . .”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-27/riewoldts-resolute-race-against-time
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His ankle looked ridiculously F'd in the rooms after the game. Apparently he's going to be right to go though...
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His ankle looked ridiculously F'd in the rooms after the game. Apparently he's going to be right to go though...
Seeing Astbury come back a week after that roll last week makes me think anyone could be alright after rolling their ankle. Obviously that's not the case but FMD Astbury's looked awful
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Shouldn't play IMESHO.....
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Definitely shouldn't play. But the imbeciles will probably risk it to once again in a desperate attempt to appear relevant.
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RICHMOND will name Jack Riewoldt for Saturday night's crunch game against Port Adelaide, with coach Damien Hardwick confident the star forward will be will be cleared of an ankle injury.
Riewoldt suffered an ankle sprain late in last Sunday night's loss to Melbourne and has been racing the clock to face the Power.
The 27-year-old took part in Thursday's light training session and completed goal kicking work, but a decision will likely be made later in the week.
"Jack's very diligent in his recovery and he's been at the club up and down icing and all those things that are required from a professional athlete," Hardwick said.
"Jack's given himself every chance to play. We do a limited amount today.
"I'm very confident he'll play."
The Tigers will regain vice-captain Brett Deledio for his first game this season having overcome a quad injury after the club declared he was available earlier this week.
Tall forward Ben Griffiths could return, with Hardwick looking for a "taller, athletic key position player" to come in after All Australian defender Alex Rance was suspended for two matches.
Defender Nick Vlastuin is not available because of a knee injury and ran laps at Thursday's session along with tall forward Liam McBean, whose right calf was heavily strapped.
Third-year prospect Ben Lennon, who has been in and out of the team this season, trained with the forwards and did not appear troubled by a head knock he suffered in the VFL at the weekend.
Hardwick praised Rance for the way he handled his suspension for striking Jack Watts but said the team had to move on quickly.
With Port Adelaide positioned at 2-3, the coach expected a desperate contest at the MCG.
"I'd be disappointed – and Ken (Hinkley) would be the same – if we didn't get that," Hardwick said.
"It is a very important game this week, make no doubt about that, and Port Adelaide would be saying the same thing.
"You can't keep giving sides a three or four-game head start and expecting to reel them back in towards the end."
Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-28/hardwick-confident-jack-riewoldt-will-be-fit-for-crunch-game
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Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Just a bald-faced liar now. This crap is beyond a joke and if the administration continues to peddle out this trash the club can be damned afaic. Ross lyon isn't going down this path. He admits there are deficiencies in his team.
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Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Just a bald-faced liar now. This crap is beyond a joke and if the administration continues to peddle out this trash the club can be damned afaic. Ross lyon isn't going down this path he admits there are deficiences in his team.
I actually think he really thinks we're in a good place. Is being deluded better than being a liar? Line ball decision there.
I secretly wish he proves us all wrong but I just can't see it happening. I'm more likely to win tattslotto than being proved wrong IMHO.
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Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Just a bald-faced liar now. This crap is beyond a joke and if the administration continues to peddle out this trash the club can be damned afaic. Ross lyon isn't going down this path he admits there are deficiences in his team.
I actually think he really thinks we're in a good place. Is being deluded better than being a liar? Line ball decision there.
I secretly wish he proves us all wrong but I just can't see it happening. I'm more likely to win tattslotto than being proved wrong IMHO.
It is a strong term, but I use it advisedly. A growing group of AFL insiders, ex- footballers and expert commentators agree, our list is fragile and lacks class/depth/direction.... yet he spouts this rubbish. No,...he is looking to string this dance of death out as long as he can and so is the rest of the clique. Idgaf about these people but I have a nephew (30ish) with Asperger Syndrome who believes everything that comes out of the club and catches a train (by himself) every week to watch this fraud. All of his life he has been disappointed. This is why I am so angry at what has been going on down there.
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RICHMOND will name Jack Riewoldt for Saturday night's crunch game against Port Adelaide, with coach Damien Hardwick confident the star forward will be will be cleared of an ankle injury.
Riewoldt suffered an ankle sprain late in last Sunday night's loss to Melbourne and has been racing the clock to face the Power.
The 27-year-old took part in Thursday's light training session and completed goal kicking work, but a decision will likely be made later in the week.
"Jack's very diligent in his recovery and he's been at the club up and down icing and all those things that are required from a professional athlete," Hardwick said.
"Jack's given himself every chance to play. We do a limited amount today.
"I'm very confident he'll play."
The Tigers will regain vice-captain Brett Deledio for his first game this season having overcome a quad injury after the club declared he was available earlier this week.
Tall forward Ben Griffiths could return, with Hardwick looking for a "taller, athletic key position player" to come in after All Australian defender Alex Rance was suspended for two matches.
Defender Nick Vlastuin is not available because of a knee injury and ran laps at Thursday's session along with tall forward Liam McBean, whose right calf was heavily strapped.
Third-year prospect Ben Lennon, who has been in and out of the team this season, trained with the forwards and did not appear troubled by a head knock he suffered in the VFL at the weekend.
Hardwick praised Rance for the way he handled his suspension for striking Jack Watts but said the team had to move on quickly.
With Port Adelaide positioned at 2-3, the coach expected a desperate contest at the MCG.
"I'd be disappointed – and Ken (Hinkley) would be the same – if we didn't get that," Hardwick said.
"It is a very important game this week, make no doubt about that, and Port Adelaide would be saying the same thing.
"You can't keep giving sides a three or four-game head start and expecting to reel them back in towards the end."
Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Ben Lennon in his 3rd year!
He should realiscly have about 30 odd senior games under his belt by now at the very minimum. And on the verge of really contributing to our team but here we sit hoping the wise old men pick him. He was drafted and his body was AFL ready, so games should have been given to him to try and fast track his development. He wasn't a tall that needed time to develop in the twos or a small just too light for AFL footy.
I'm not saying he is a star, far from it, but he should be further advanced than where he is. They could have played him across the half forward line or in a forward pocket in stead of playing Nathan Gordon, who obviously isn't even on our list anymore. These are the sort of decisions that have hurt our club in the last couple of weeks exposing our lack of depth.
But the bigger mistake even than that was to pick him in front of Cripps on draft day. A 194cm big bodied onballer we desperately need now. Anyway we have all heard it before.
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Oh look Ben Lennon still has a few things he needs to work on.....Taylor Hunt plays an important role....Liam just needs to string together some consistent performances, while Troy has that experience and has shown he can adequately fill a role in the forward line when called upon....
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RICHMOND will name Jack Riewoldt for Saturday night's crunch game against Port Adelaide, with coach Damien Hardwick confident the star forward will be will be cleared of an ankle injury.
Riewoldt suffered an ankle sprain late in last Sunday night's loss to Melbourne and has been racing the clock to face the Power.
The 27-year-old took part in Thursday's light training session and completed goal kicking work, but a decision will likely be made later in the week.
"Jack's very diligent in his recovery and he's been at the club up and down icing and all those things that are required from a professional athlete," Hardwick said.
"Jack's given himself every chance to play. We do a limited amount today.
"I'm very confident he'll play."
The Tigers will regain vice-captain Brett Deledio for his first game this season having overcome a quad injury after the club declared he was available earlier this week.
Tall forward Ben Griffiths could return, with Hardwick looking for a "taller, athletic key position player" to come in after All Australian defender Alex Rance was suspended for two matches.
Defender Nick Vlastuin is not available because of a knee injury and ran laps at Thursday's session along with tall forward Liam McBean, whose right calf was heavily strapped.
Third-year prospect Ben Lennon, who has been in and out of the team this season, trained with the forwards and did not appear troubled by a head knock he suffered in the VFL at the weekend.
Hardwick praised Rance for the way he handled his suspension for striking Jack Watts but said the team had to move on quickly.
With Port Adelaide positioned at 2-3, the coach expected a desperate contest at the MCG.
"I'd be disappointed – and Ken (Hinkley) would be the same – if we didn't get that," Hardwick said.
"It is a very important game this week, make no doubt about that, and Port Adelaide would be saying the same thing.
"You can't keep giving sides a three or four-game head start and expecting to reel them back in towards the end."
Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Ben Lennon in his 3rd year!
He should realiscly have about 30 odd senior games under his belt by now at the very minimum. And on the verge of really contributing to our team but here we sit hoping the wise old men pick him. He was drafted and his body was AFL ready, so games should have been given to him to try and fast track his development. He wasn't a tall that needed time to develop in the twos or a small just too light for AFL footy.
I'm not saying he is a star, far from it, but he should be further advanced than where he is. They could have played him across the half forward line or in a forward pocket in stead of playing Nathan Gordon, who obviously isn't even on our list anymore. These are the sort of decisions that have hurt our club in the last couple of weeks exposing our lack of depth.
But the bigger mistake even than that was to pick him in front of Cripps on draft day. A 194cm big bodied onballer we desperately need now. Anyway we have all heard it before.
Well said bt.
On the Cripps front, most "experts" had Lennon ranked ahead of him. Nobody knew he was gong to grow another 6cm too. If we had Cripps, he also may have been played in the backline and in and out of the team. I also hear that Judd has had a huge influence on him with preparation, something he wouldn't have had at Richmond.
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Wee needed both types of players - that's why sometimes it's good idea to try and trade for more high picks...
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Hardwick also dismissed criticism of the club's list management strategy.
"It does get questioned this time of year when you're not performing well," he said.
"As I said earlier this year, I think our squad is in a good place … we'll get some players back over the next two to three weeks and we'll start to see some better football.
"But I've got a group of 22 players who are going to represent our club this week who I expect a high level of performance from."
Just a bald-faced liar now. This crap is beyond a joke and if the administration continues to peddle out this trash the club can be damned afaic. Ross lyon isn't going down this path he admits there are deficiences in his team.
I actually think he really thinks we're in a good place. Is being deluded better than being a liar? Line ball decision there.
I secretly wish he proves us all wrong but I just can't see it happening. I'm more likely to win tattslotto than being proved wrong IMHO.
Isn't he by saying he thinks we have a good list also putting the onus back on him if we don't perform? Once we get players back i can definitely see we will improve but not to the degree we need to in order to make finals or overcome the poor game style he has implemented. Therefore he cant play the "we need extra personnel" card if he is clearly stating that its not a problem. If we don't get a better performance this week, in other words a win, then Hardwick and co. will have the blow torch further applied from both supporters and the media.
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Wee needed both types of players - that's why sometimes it's good idea to try and trade for more high picks...
Draft KPP or genuine mids, big bodied even better....... (Trade for ruckman)
Mids can play HF HB and in the pockets.
Sounds pretty simple.
Take a look at the doggies this year and the amount of mids that rotate through middle and rest on a flank or in a pocket.
We have too many flankers
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:clapping
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Had an excellent game. Very clever.
Shame he didn't slot more through the middle.
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Captain next year, dead set leader in every way!!! Bleeds for this club.
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It's a shame that those who are first to have a crack at Jack won't even be the last to achnowlege his efforts.
Great game.
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Had an excellent game. Very clever.
Shame he didn't slot more through the middle.
Is clearly off with his touch around goal at the moment, missing many he scored without much trouble last season. Not sure what the issue is, maybe like everyyone else in the side until last night, with low confidence comes a drop off in execution.
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Had an excellent game. Very clever.
Shame he didn't slot more through the middle.
Totally agree. His tackling was also very good. He did a lot of Gut running too.
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Had an excellent game. Very clever.
Shame he didn't slot more through the middle.
Is clearly off with his touch around goal at the moment, missing many he scored without much trouble last season. Not sure what the issue is, maybe like everyyone else in the side until last night, with low confidence comes a drop off in execution.
He's very up and down with his goal kicking over the years IMO. Goes through periods where he's a dead eye then the next he gets in a slump.
Excellent game though. Truly turning into a work horse like his cousin :clapping
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Had an excellent game. Very clever.
Shame he didn't slot more through the middle.
Is clearly off with his touch around goal at the moment, missing many he scored without much trouble last season. Not sure what the issue is, maybe like everyyone else in the side until last night, with low confidence comes a drop off in execution.
Not sure Jack's confidence in himself is ever low...
Been good this season. His work rate and tackling is absolutely outstanding these days.
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Jack Riewoldt will put his body on the line anywhere on the field. Riewoldt loves a goal and most forwards will stand under a high ball if they know they’re a chance to score a goal. But Riewoldt put himself in harm’s way on the wing despite knowing he was going to get crunched by Lee Spurr.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31667118/five-things-we-learnt-tigers/
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A very team oriented player. Always been courageous. Deserves enormous credit for the way he plays.
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Jack the creator.
More so than goal kicker, imo..
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Loved the way Jack read the ball in the air last night. When we were kicking into the wind he wrestled with opponents making them defend the wrong position, then broke away at just the right time to take a simple chest mark! Brilliant judgement & really smart body work! Beautiful kick at goal from 40 out into the wind in the first quarter. All class is Jack! :thumbsup
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A very team oriented player. Always been courageous. Deserves enormous credit for the way he plays.
Talented too
Jack the creator.
More so than goal kicker, imo..
V good chf
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And some people wanted to trade him :whistle
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l suppose he played alot of Junior footy in those chilly & blustery conditions :snidegrin
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Oh dear...
AFL website doing a Riewoldt v Waite - Who comes out on top article....
Insult to Jack. Waite having a breakout year at age 32. Riewoldt broke out 7 years ago.
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Oh dear...
AFL website doing a Riewoldt v Waite - Who comes out on top article....
Insult to Jack. Waite having a breakout year at age 32. Riewoldt broke out 7 years ago.
I saw that. What a ridiculous match up. I don't like they are using misleading 2016 averages either. Waite is averaging 2.7 goals this year whilst Riewoldt is averaging 2.4. But then you look at career totals and Jack has kicked 100+ more goals than Waite and he's 6 years younger also.
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Oh dear...
AFL website doing a Riewoldt v Waite - Who comes out on top article....
Insult to Jack. Waite having a breakout year at age 32. Riewoldt broke out 7 years ago.
I saw that. What a ridiculous match up. I don't like they are using misleading 2016 averages either. Waite is averaging 2.7 goals this year whilst Riewoldt is averaging 2.4. But then you look at career totals and Jack has kicked 100+ more goals than Waite and he's 6 years younger also.
Here's the link.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-01/versus-jack-riewoldt-v-jarrad-waite
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Congrats to Jack on his engagement :).
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Congrats to Jack on his engagement :).
About time ;D
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Now start whelping sons Jack!
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Jack has the second most goal assists in the AFL with 21. Just behind Daniel Wells on 22.
This is on top of the 27 goals Jack's kicked himself so far this year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/geelong/mitch-duncan-is-statistically-the-best-kick-in-the-afl-but-who-is-the-leader-at-your-club/news-story/c6e40de3c090e45e1411a2eec8aa7202
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Another very good performer... :cheers
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Underrated rated part of his game
The white lebron :bow
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Would like to see him bag a few more goals TBH...
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Would like to see him bag a few more goals TBH...
He should have another 10 goals from very gettable misses
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Would like to see him bag a few more goals TBH...
That's not what Halfstep wants....
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Jack too many goals
Dusty to many inside possessions
Cotchin too good generally
Rance well he should make the duds play better
Must make them play the Dimma way
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Round 14 stats: Jack Riewoldt top target inside 50 in Richmond’s win over Brisbane Lions
Herald Sun
June 29, 2016 4:01pm
IF Dustin Martin is considered a shoo-in for the three Brownlow Medal votes, then teammate Jack Riewoldt has to be a lock for the two votes after his virtuoso performance in Richmond’s 42-point win over Brisbane last Saturday.
The Tigers forward played arguably his best game of the year against the Lions with four goals and 10 marks (four contested) and 21 disposals that resulted in a round-high 161 SuperCoach points, his highest return since he kicked 11 goals against GWS in 2014.
Riewoldt didn’t let down his teammates, who made the star spearhead their target 20 times with their inside-50 entries.
His nine inside-50 marks was the equal second-most in a match this season — behind Eagle Josh Kennedy’s 10 marks, which was also against Brisbane.
TOP 10 TARGETS INSIDE 50
1. Charlie Dixon (Port) 142
2. Lance Franklin (Syd) 142
3. Tom Hawkins (Geel) 130
4. Josh Kennedy (WC) 126
5. Tom Lynch (GC) 122
6. Jack Riewoldt (Rich) 112
7. Jesse Hogan (Melb) 111
8. Taylor Walker (Adel) 100
9. Josh Bruce (StK) 93
10. Josh Jenkins (Adel) 92
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/round-14-stats-jack-riewoldt-top-target-inside-50-in-richmonds-win-over-brisbane-lions/news-story/cd74a87ce61ca07ba515c29715b1f51a
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I expect this sort output from Jack every week. He's good enough despite the lack of help from other forwards and our stupid game plan especially our forward entries.
The Richo-man worked his arse off all game whether he had help or not and I think Jack can achieve this if he's prepared to work harder for longer.
I think he's good enough & talented enough.
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Doesn't matter how good jack is if the other 17 cannot get the ball out of the back 50 / half way which happens quite regularly
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Doesn't matter how good jack is if the other 17 cannot get the ball out of the back 50 / half way which happens quite regularly
A good coach would fix this in one preseason.
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The Richo-man worked his arse off all game whether he had help or not and I think Jack can achieve this if he's prepared to work harder for longer.
Riewoldt works twice as hard as Richo did at the same point in his career.....
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’If I was Jack Riewoldt ... I’d go’: Maclure
Herald Sun
5 August 2016
CARLTON great Mark Maclure says Jack Riewoldt should leave Richmond.
Riewoldt, 27, has played 10 seasons with the Tigers and been the club’s leading goalkicker every year since 2010.
The star forward has kicked 41 goals in 18 games this year and has been one of the side’s best in its disappointing season that will see it miss the finals.
The Tigers have won just seven games in a year many predicted they could make the top four and possibly challenge for a premiership.
This season has highlighted the holes in the club’s list, leading to many suggesting Richmond will embark on a rebuild.
Hawthorn champion Dermott Brereton wrote in the Herald Sun on Friday Riewoldt, captain Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance, Dustin Martin and Brett Deledio are the five star players Richmond must keep.
But Maclure says if he was in Riewoldt’s position, he would leave.
“If I was Jack Riewoldt ... (you’ve got to ask) is he going to win a premiership at this footy club?” Maclure said on AFL360.
“I’d go. I’d seriously go if I was Jack because I cannot see a change in what they’re doing at the moment because they’ve done it for three to four years.
“They’ve played in finals and played the same way. They tried to change it at the start of the year and you know what, they didn’t stay the course. They didn’t go down the path, they stopped and went back to where it was before and that’s why they are where they are now.”
Coach Damien Hardwick has been criticised for his use of the two-time Coleman Medallist, opting to play him up the ground rather than close to goal as a genuine full forward.
His 41 goals this season is his lowest tally since booting 32 majors in 2009.
The Tigers are under pressure after slumping to a humiliating 88-point loss to GWS last Saturday in which it kicked a record-low 23 points for the game. Riewoldt kicked two of the Tigers’ three goals.
Hardwick insists the Tigers’ current list, which he rates as the best in his time as coach, is capable of playing finals but simply hasn’t produced its best footy enough this season.
Maclure disagrees, saying the club and its coaching staff need to go back to the drawing board.
“They need a total re-program. A total re-program of their coaching style and their playing style. In the last six weeks, they don’t play like a team at all,” he said.
“They’re the second worst side in the competition in tackling and in pressure acts as well, the second worst.
“That comes because they chip the ball around and take easy marks.
“The big thing for me is the senior players and the coaching staff — if the coaching staff tell them that’s how they should play, they’re kidding.
“It couldn’t possibly be that way.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/mark-maclure-says-jack-riewoldt-should-leave-richmond-as-lack-of-success-at-the-tigers-continues/news-story/8b94c7ef6183b370b08aeed51bf3a0d3
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’If I was Jack Riewoldt ... I’d go’: Maclure
Herald Sun
5 August 2016
CARLTON great Mark Maclure says Jack Riewoldt should leave Richmond.
Riewoldt, 27, has played 10 seasons with the Tigers and been the club’s leading goalkicker every year since 2010.
The star forward has kicked 41 goals in 18 games this year and has been one of the side’s best in its disappointing season that will see it miss the finals.
The Tigers have won just seven games in a year many predicted they could make the top four and possibly challenge for a premiership.
This season has highlighted the holes in the club’s list, leading to many suggesting Richmond will embark on a rebuild.
Hawthorn champion Dermott Brereton wrote in the Herald Sun on Friday Riewoldt, captain Trent Cotchin, Alex Rance, Dustin Martin and Brett Deledio are the five star players Richmond must keep.
But Maclure says if he was in Riewoldt’s position, he would leave.
“If I was Jack Riewoldt ... (you’ve got to ask) is he going to win a premiership at this footy club?” Maclure said on AFL360.
“I’d go. I’d seriously go if I was Jack because I cannot see a change in what they’re doing at the moment because they’ve done it for three to four years.
“They’ve played in finals and played the same way. They tried to change it at the start of the year and you know what, they didn’t stay the course. They didn’t go down the path, they stopped and went back to where it was before and that’s why they are where they are now.”
Coach Damien Hardwick has been criticised for his use of the two-time Coleman Medallist, opting to play him up the ground rather than close to goal as a genuine full forward.
His 41 goals this season is his lowest tally since booting 32 majors in 2009.
The Tigers are under pressure after slumping to a humiliating 88-point loss to GWS last Saturday in which it kicked a record-low 23 points for the game. Riewoldt kicked two of the Tigers’ three goals.
Hardwick insists the Tigers’ current list, which he rates as the best in his time as coach, is capable of playing finals but simply hasn’t produced its best footy enough this season.
Maclure disagrees, saying the club and its coaching staff need to go back to the drawing board.
“They need a total re-program. A total re-program of their coaching style and their playing style. In the last six weeks, they don’t play like a team at all,” he said.
“They’re the second worst side in the competition in tackling and in pressure acts as well, the second worst.
“That comes because they chip the ball around and take easy marks.
“The big thing for me is the senior players and the coaching staff — if the coaching staff tell them that’s how they should play, they’re kidding.
“It couldn’t possibly be that way.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/mark-maclure-says-jack-riewoldt-should-leave-richmond-as-lack-of-success-at-the-tigers-continues/news-story/8b94c7ef6183b370b08aeed51bf3a0d3
He really is just a Richmond hating PoS. Eff off Maclure.
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actually he isnt. he just calls it as he sees it, and he bags any team as he sees fit, even carlton. whether he see it correct is another matter.
funnily enough he doesnt bag richmond anywhere near as much as many on here, and they would squeal like biatches if you said they hated Richmond
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He is the Bolt of the football world, trolling old prick lol
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He is the Bolt of the football world, trolling old prick lol
Bolt is one of the most entertaining columnists in Herald Sun history. But he doesn't troll. He believes every word he writes.
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and that is truly scary
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He is the Bolt of the football world, trolling old prick lol
Bolt is one of the most entertaining columnists in Herald Sun history. But he doesn't troll. He believes every word he writes.
'Have you seen Hampson train?'
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actually he isnt. he just calls it as he sees it, and he bags any team as he sees fit, even carlton. whether he see it correct is another matter.
funnily enough he doesnt bag richmond anywhere near as much as many on here, and they would squeal like biatches if you said they hated Richmond
Duh.
Maybe because THIS is a Richmond forum.
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ok then........
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Saw this interview with Jack recently talking about buying his first home. I don't think it's been shared yet.
“if I had my time again, I would have probably waited around and watched the market a little bit more but it was so exciting getting into the property game that I jumped on the opportunity.”
“To be able to put some paint on the walls and say that it’s your and you did it and invite people over to your house is pretty special.”
http://blog.realestateview.com.au/2016/07/jack-riewoldt-first-home-buyer-richmond-fc/
bit of a different perspective on the guy
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and that is truly scary
What is truly scary is the halfwits who swallow his crap hook line and sinker as gospel. The regulator cracked me up with his findings but didn't take into count how many mouth breathers get sucked in by his bs.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/news-and-current-affairs/regulator-says-andrew-bolt-too-hyperbolic-to-be-factual-20160805-gqm7n9.html
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Riewoldt also answered to the speculation, brushing off Maclure’s suggestion he should leave the Tigers at the end of the season.
“I don’t know about that,” he said.
“He just tries to bait Richmond every week with something like that. He’s an astute football judge, Mark, so I’ll leave that to him.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jordan-lewis-tells-afl-360-players-are-within-their-rights-to-use-free-agency-to-search-for-success/news-story/23be472b0c2501257ef8564764a6cd50
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Jack Riewoldt joined Adam and Scott to discuss all things in sport over the last week inlcuding racing, the life of a footballer in the off season, the first test plus plenty more.
AUDIO: https://audioboom.com/posts/5242621-friday-jump-out-jack-riewoldt
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Riewoldt also underwent a surprise ankle reconstruction after being booked in for a clean-up and is yet to start running properly.
The 28-year-old has only just begun running on an anti-gravity machine and hopes to graduate to jogging laps at Punt Rd next week.
“It’s come on well,” Riewoldt told RSN of his recovery from ankle surgery. “I’ve started running ... there’s treadmills that can take your weight (off), so I’ve started running at 60 per cent of my body weight and progressed over the week up to 80 per cent and then hopefully next week I’ll be out just on the grass just having a bit of a slow trot around.”
Riewoldt will return for his eleventh season at Richmond without best mate and star utility Brett Deledio who was traded to GWS.
But the forward will be surrounded by three new faces — Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy and Toby Nankervis — who arrived at Punt Rd during the trade period.
While Riewoldt is sad to see Deledio move on, he rates this year’s trade period as Richmond’s best.
“They’re great,” he said of midfielders Prestia and Caddy. “But to lose Brett is really disappointing. He’s one of my best mates and to see him go was sad for me and for the footy club.
“On the flip side of that, to get two really bull midfielders, that’s the big thing for us.
“I think it’s probably one of the best trade periods we’ve had.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-reveals-finger-surgery-is-holding-him-back-after-also-undergoing-an-ankle-reconstruction/news-story/ed80991d0a29e661d60ef6be1768b06d
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The pic of Jack on twitter looks like he has added some muscle :clapping
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Jack could be the new Lids, missing from the first 6 rounds due to ongoing injury management.
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Jack back on track after multiple surgeries
AFL.com.au
28 November 2016
RICHMOND star Jack Riewoldt has been eased into pre-season training on Monday as he recovers from off-season finger and ankle surgeries.
The Tigers' full squad was assembled for the first time on Monday as new draftees were introduced and the last of the senior players, including star defender Alex Rance, returned.
Riewoldt was restricted to running and short kicking, however, after an off-season that saw him undergo multiple surgeries on a finger injury as well as an ankle operation.
The 28-year-old initially booked in for an ankle clean-up, which eventually turned into a reconstruction in September.
He was also forced to have his troublesome right little finger fused twice after a titanium plate snapped three weeks after surgery.
The two-time All Australian started Monday's session with a series of run-throughs away from the main group.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-28/jack-riewoldt-on-track-after-surgeries
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http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202016%20Training%20-%20Richmond%20281116&image_id=480150
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Oldies but goodies: How your club's veterans are tracking
Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
30 January 2017
Star forward Jack Riewoldt spent his fair share of time in the operating theatre after a right ankle reconstruction and two bouts of surgery on the little finger in his right hand – the second time because the titanium plate that was inserted snapped after just three weeks. He was forced to cross-train and use the AlterG treadmill (which allows the user to run without putting all their body weight on their legs) but the dual Coleman medallist returned to the main group before Christmas. Since he was drafted, Riewoldt's work ethic on the track hasn't been questioned and that has held him in good stead.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-29/oldies-but-goodies-how-your-clubs-veterans-are-tracking
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Put Jack in the box: Tigers wasted Riewoldt away from goal
AFL.com.au
30 January 2017
JACK Riewoldt's goalkicking talent was wasted at Richmond last year, according to Champion Data's 2017 AFL Prospectus.
In 2016, the 28-year-old key forward kicked fewer than 50 goals for the season for the first time since 2008 with a tally of 48 goals.
However, Richmond's inability or unwillingness to get the ball inside 50 starved Riewoldt of opportunities, forcing him to gather the majority of his possessions outside the 50m arc.
According to Champion Data's just released AFL Prospectus, Riewoldt won just 44 per cent of his disposals in the forward 50, his lowest percentage since 2009.
In 2010, when he won his first Coleman Medal with 82 goals, he grabbed 63 per cent of his disposals in the forward 50 and was targeted 45 per cent of the time.
However in 2016, a whopping 56 per cent of his disposals were gathered outside the 50m arc and he was targeted just 31 per cent of the time.
Champion Data argues the Tigers changed tack in round eight after an appalling start to the season moving the ball slowly around their back half to limit turnovers.
It meant they only won the inside 50 count three times for the season, recording an average of 7.53 minutes fewer in the forward half than their opposition and Riewoldt became a victim of their stagnant approach.
Riewoldt still finished ninth in the AFL's goalkicking, one of only two players from non-finalists (Gold Coast's Tom Lynch was the other) to finish in the top-dozen goalkickers for 2016, a demonstration of his quality.
And he also set a new record for disposals in a season with 316.
However, Riewoldt averaged just 3.1 marks inside 50 per game compared to Lynch's 3.5, and looked at times like a Tiger thrown into the wrong enclosure at the zoo.
New forwards coach Justin Leppitsch was diplomatic in October when asked where Riewoldt was best suited, claiming he was somewhere in between a power forward and a high half-forward.
"We have got to make sure we use the strength of our players and put them in the right position," Leppitsch told AFL.com.au.
Champion Data argues Richmond's improved midfield, with the acquisition through the NAB AFL Trade Period of Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy and Toby Nankervis, as well as the opportunity to move talented players such as Nick Vlaustin through the middle, will improve the Tigers' inside 50 count and allow them to play Riewoldt deeper.
Tigers fans can only hope because as Champion Data writes, Riewoldt is "too good to be racking up 56 per cent of his touches outside the danger zone".
Champion Data is the AFL's official stats supplier
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-29/put-jack-in-the-box-tigers-wasted-riewoldt-away-from-goal
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Even Leppa can see the obvious..... :banghead
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Put Jack in the box: Tigers wasted Riewoldt away from goal
AFL.com.au
30 January 2017
JACK Riewoldt's goalkicking talent was wasted at Richmond last year, according to Champion Data's 2017 AFL Prospectus.
In 2016, the 28-year-old key forward kicked fewer than 50 goals for the season for the first time since 2008 with a tally of 48 goals.
However, Richmond's inability or unwillingness to get the ball inside 50 starved Riewoldt of opportunities, forcing him to gather the majority of his possessions outside the 50m arc.
According to Champion Data's just released AFL Prospectus, Riewoldt won just 44 per cent of his disposals in the forward 50, his lowest percentage since 2009.
In 2010, when he won his first Coleman Medal with 82 goals, he grabbed 63 per cent of his disposals in the forward 50 and was targeted 45 per cent of the time.
However in 2016, a whopping 56 per cent of his disposals were gathered outside the 50m arc and he was targeted just 31 per cent of the time.
Champion Data argues the Tigers changed tack in round eight after an appalling start to the season moving the ball slowly around their back half to limit turnovers.
It meant they only won the inside 50 count three times for the season, recording an average of 7.53 minutes fewer in the forward half than their opposition and Riewoldt became a victim of their stagnant approach.
Riewoldt still finished ninth in the AFL's goalkicking, one of only two players from non-finalists (Gold Coast's Tom Lynch was the other) to finish in the top-dozen goalkickers for 2016, a demonstration of his quality.
And he also set a new record for disposals in a season with 316.
However, Riewoldt averaged just 3.1 marks inside 50 per game compared to Lynch's 3.5, and looked at times like a Tiger thrown into the wrong enclosure at the zoo.
New forwards coach Justin Leppitsch was diplomatic in October when asked where Riewoldt was best suited, claiming he was somewhere in between a power forward and a high half-forward.
"We have got to make sure we use the strength of our players and put them in the right position," Leppitsch told AFL.com.au.
Champion Data argues Richmond's improved midfield, with the acquisition through the NAB AFL Trade Period of Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy and Toby Nankervis, as well as the opportunity to move talented players such as Nick Vlaustin through the middle, will improve the Tigers' inside 50 count and allow them to play Riewoldt deeper.
Tigers fans can only hope because as Champion Data writes, Riewoldt is "too good to be racking up 56 per cent of his touches outside the danger zone".
Champion Data is the AFL's official stats supplier
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-01-29/put-jack-in-the-box-tigers-wasted-riewoldt-away-from-goal
That's Dimma for you leading goal kicker how many times and Coleman medal yet he plays with him out of position no idea :banghead :banghead.
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Question for you good folks. If Reiwoldt was to played out of the square, what would your F50 set up have been for 2016?
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why do people think how many goals a player kicks himself is more important than how hoe many goals he creates for the team?
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why do people think how many goals a player kicks himself is more important than how hoe many goals he creates for the team?
I think it has to do with the simplistic nature of some people
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I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.
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I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.
Exactly Willy. :clapping
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I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.
Steady on Willy, if we put him there and kick goals then maybe we will win games. I think Hardwick and the brains trust will have to think this one over as it seems rather radical? :lol :lol :lol
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I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.
not as many though.
no tall in the side can create opportunities for others like he can.
blokes than do not much more than mark and kick straight from set shots can benefit from having a player like jack further up the ground, but cant do the same as he can further up.
Its nearly impossible to double team a mobile hard working forward.
it pee easy to do so one that you just plonk in the goal square.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.
Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.
Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?
He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.
Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?
He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does
:huh
You mean forwards I assume.
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Reckon opposition coaches like seeing Jack up the ground.
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I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.
not as many though.
no tall in the side can create opportunities for others like he can.
blokes than do not much more than mark and kick straight from set shots can benefit from having a player like jack further up the ground, but cant do the same as he can further up.
Its nearly impossible to double team a mobile hard working forward.
it pee easy to do so one that you just plonk in the goal square.
This post. Jack is a gun up the field. Combine his stats with goal assists and remember his 2016 was hampered from his dodgy hand which impacted his goal kicking. What we need is big, stonking forward in the goal square who can bring it to ground for the smalls. Jack is far more useful actually getting the pill.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.
Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?
He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does
:huh
You mean forwards I assume.
Sorry. Confusing. Yes.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
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That's called check mate! :snidegrin
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
Coincidentally, Batchelor was part of a back 6 when we defended better and had those better years. Hampson was not.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
Coincidentally, Batchelor was part of a back 6 when we defended better and had those better years. Hampson was not.
Stay on topic please! :lol
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
Coincidentally, Batchelor was part of a back 6 when we defended better and had those better years. Hampson was not.
Stay on topic please! :lol
Couldnt resist making a timely factual statement (imho) ;)
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Y&BB,to what extent was our scoring prowess propped up by our scoring from d50?
Also, the big drop in scoring happened in 2016 which is when Dusty dropped in scoring goals from averaging 26 goals to just 9 last year?
That's a much bigger impact than Jack. :shh
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Y&BB,to what extent was our scoring prowess propped up by our scoring from d50?
Also, the big drop in scoring happened in 2016 which is when Dusty dropped in scoring goals from averaging 26 goals to just 9 last year?
That's a much bigger impact than Jack. :shh
Of course it is simplistic to say that only moving Jack blunted our scoring. That wasn't the argument. I think the stats show it is one of several contributing factors though.
I think the most telling ones were 2015 ones where despite having our best year as a team and as a defence, we still couldn't score as much as 2012! Normally you'd expect the far better team to score more heavily but we didn't. Not having Jack up forward as often almost certainly contributed to this not because he will kick more, but because just having him there creates goals for others.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
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For me it's pretty simple, stats can say what you want them to say, we have ONE decent tall forward, let's play him there. HFF are more common and most decent on ballers can play through there.
I'd play Jack deep but much more importantly we need to get it in quick to him. Teams won't be able to double team him if that occurs.
Also in 2017 our midfield should bat a lot deeper which will help with that but also with kicking more goals. Dusty, Cotch and Caddy are all goal kickers, if we can get 20 plus goals from all those guys and Jack plays deep and gets decent supply, we win more games than we lose.
I recon Dimma got to caught up in defending and neglected trying to kick a winning score.
Footy is still pretty simple, kick more goals than the opposition and you win!
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Good post BT.
Al makes some good points and I can understand his reasoning, but ultimately, your best and most reliable goal kicker needs to play close to goal. Simple as that. Playing him up the field is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
It will be an interesting year. With our draw, i think we can make finals if we get a lift out of our middle tier and new recruits. A more attacking brand would help too. Wouldn't be surprised if we finished bottom four either.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
So can I confirm that you are now supporting that we suffered when Batch went out of the team in 2016.
Thanks for the Batch support even though it is late.
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
So can I confirm that you are now supporting that we suffered when Batch went out of the team in 2016.
Thanks for the Batch support even though it is late.
Please stay on topic. :shh
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
if you cant see how the percantage of the teams score a bloke kicks when taken into context with overall performance, in a discussion about if he is more valuable to the team kicking the goals himself or creating them for others.........
and if you cant see if you are going to use only the points kicked for as an argument then it is imperative you understand that as game styles change some years the whole comp kicks less goals that other years.............
and if you want to bring into a discussion about whether a bloke should play high or deep forward, comments about playing on the wing.........
then id be better off discussing it with WAT
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
if you cant see how the percantage of the teams score a bloke kicks when taken into context with overall performance, in a discussion about if he is more valuable to the team kicking the goals himself or creating them for others.........
and if you cant see if you are going to use only the points kicked for as an argument then it is imperative you understand that as game styles change some years the whole comp kicks less goals that other years.............
and if you want to bring into a discussion about whether a bloke should play high or deep forward, comments about playing on the wing.........
then id be better off discussing it with WAT
Is it your gender confusion or something else clouding your mind?
How can you take one aspect like percentage of a teams goals and equate that to ANYTHING about a team's performance without taking into account ANY other aspect of how the team is playing when looking at overall performance? How about better defence, more experienced players, refined game plan that has been better practised, better clearances and team structure etc etc etc. For all we know, if we kept Jack forward and he kicked more goals others may have kicked more goals too because of all the other things I've mentioned. You can't tell me it wouldn't happen because we don't know.
You are trying to place a simplistic view on a complex situation.
I was not talking about overall performance which IS more complex. I was simply stating that with Jack playing more deeply forward we have scored more heavily. That is an undeniable fact supported by statistics that I have provided. That is what I stated originally and what I have argued. It is you that has had to take it to other levels like overall performance because you are trying to change the argument you have lost so badly.
And if you bothered actually going to the games yourself you would have noted how many times Jack was playing midfield and wing as well as playing in defence. That is what actually happened and why many of us have been frustrated that he hasn't been forward creating goals.
And you don't have to keep canning WAT. He has his own thoughts and you should respect them instead of being a gender confused cyberbully. >:(
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
if you cant see how the percantage of the teams score a bloke kicks when taken into context with overall performance, in a discussion about if he is more valuable to the team kicking the goals himself or creating them for others.........
and if you cant see if you are going to use only the points kicked for as an argument then it is imperative you understand that as game styles change some years the whole comp kicks less goals that other years.............
and if you want to bring into a discussion about whether a bloke should play high or deep forward, comments about playing on the wing.........
then id be better off discussing it with WAT
Oh my that is harsh
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
if you cant see how the percantage of the teams score a bloke kicks when taken into context with overall performance, in a discussion about if he is more valuable to the team kicking the goals himself or creating them for others.........
and if you cant see if you are going to use only the points kicked for as an argument then it is imperative you understand that as game styles change some years the whole comp kicks less goals that other years.............
and if you want to bring into a discussion about whether a bloke should play high or deep forward, comments about playing on the wing.........
then id be better off discussing it with WAT
Is it your gender confusion or something else clouding your mind?
How can you take one aspect like percentage of a teams goals and equate that to ANYTHING about a team's performance without taking into account ANY other aspect of how the team is playing when looking at overall performance? How about better defence, more experienced players, refined game plan that has been better practised, better clearances and team structure etc etc etc. For all we know, if we kept Jack forward and he kicked more goals others may have kicked more goals too because of all the other things I've mentioned. You can't tell me it wouldn't happen because we don't know.
You are trying to place a simplistic view on a complex situation.
I was not talking about overall performance which IS more complex. I was simply stating that with Jack playing more deeply forward we have scored more heavily. That is an undeniable fact supported by statistics that I have provided. That is what I stated originally and what I have argued. It is you that has had to take it to other levels like overall performance because you are trying to change the argument you have lost so badly.
And if you bothered actually going to the games yourself you would have noted how many times Jack was playing midfield and wing as well as playing in defence. That is what actually happened and why many of us have been frustrated that he hasn't been forward creating goals.
And you don't have to keep canning WAT. He has his own thoughts and you should respect them instead of being a gender confused cyberbully. >:(
This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
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Gah my eyes!!
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:lol
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Gah my eyes!!
:clapping
Folks any chance of editing out some of the quotes and only highlighting what you are answering to
Believe it or not it is supposedly one (of a few) reason why a former long termer no longer posts here got sick of wading through this sort of stuff
Kid you not :thumbsup
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a bit like quoting the post immediately before when you are replying to it?
Never been an issue when it has been brought up before, so why should i bother now?
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him
Yes. :clapping
This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!
Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.
really? what do you base this on?
Richmond 2016 Points For: 1713 (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For: 2006 (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For: 2069 (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For: 2169 (finished 12th)
So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.
So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!
So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield. Thanks for confirming our point.
We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.
I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.
And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!
I like the selective use of stats that back up your argument and ignore those that don't. Ansell keays would be proud of you. Its also very clever the way you muddy the waters by using things like "we defended better" where it suits, but ignore that last we defended crap and our midfield was crap.
Bravo :clapping
::)
Is that all you can come back with?
I gave you stats. We are discussing scoring power too. That is what YOU challenged me to support with my statement that our scoring had decreased with Jack further up the ground. I did that but now you cowardly say that they were selective and that I ignored other stats.
I say that is BS.
What stats did I ignore? Remember what you challenged me to support too. We weren't talking about midfield output, defence or anything like that. The conversation was about Jack and how our scoring has gone down the further up the field he has gone.
I have supported my assertion with FACTS. You however, have just come out with a big fat donut of information to support your assertion. Why don't you argue your position with facts as well, instead of whingeing and whining about a non existent manipulation of stats?
You have supported your assertion with selective facts. You conveniently ignored the stats from 2010, which was Jacks highest goal tally, yet our worst performance in terms of wins, total score and percentage since then, as well neglecting to include 2013 and 2014.
You actually pointed out that other factors, such as backline and midfield performance can influence these things in an attempt to argue against someone elses point of view, yet failed to mention how these come into play with the stats you quoted, and the stats you ignored.
In 2015 Jack pushed up the ground more often than some people realise, as his career high I50s of 75 (26 more than his next best, or 44% more, and over 50% better than anything before 2015) indicates. In that year we won 15 games (equal best along with 2013, since 2010) with a percentage of 123, slightly higher but basically on par with 2013. Our total score was lower in 2015 than in 2013, but in 2013 12 teams scored more than 2000 for the year, while in 2015 only 7 did, so goal scoring across the comp dropped. (In 2012, another high scoring year, but relatively unsuccessful for us, 11 teams scored more than 2000)
Of course we have 2016, a poo year all round, but as you already know, other factors come into play. Still, Jack contributed 18.79% of our score for the year, while in 2015 it was 18.34% and in 2013, along with 2015 our most successful years in terms of wins and percentage, it was 17.68%.
what about the less successful years? In 2014 jack contributed 21% of our score, 2012 20.19%, 2011 19.23% and 2010 29% of the teams score for the year.
No one is arguing that he doesn't kick more goals the closer he stays to goal, but the trend seems to indicate that the more goals he kicks, the higher the percentage of our score he kicks, and the less successful the team is.
How is pointing out that you selectively used stats cowardly, especially when that is exactly what you did? If you want to use stats to show a trend, use all the stats for a given period, and do so in a way that paints a bigger picture(ie that wins/loss, ladder position and percentage is a more valid measure of success than simply points scored, something that fluctuates across the comp as a whole. It takes a little more work, but may prevent others from pointing out the inadequacies of your argument and you having to resort to questioning their courage for doing so.
When discussing the best position for a player, the other factor to take into account is the type of players around him and the position that best suits the team for them, but that is a different discussion
Firstly I didn't ignore 2010. I just thought that it was unfair putting in stats about a team just cobbled together and that was described as the worst since Fitzroy. Hardwick had just started at Richmond and knowbody really could have adapted to his game style overnight. Heavy scoring was never going to happen.
However, lets include it and compare it to a much stronger team, the 2016 one.
Points for in 2010 was 1714.
Points for in 2016 was 1713.
In 2010, Jack had his best year and DESPITE being the worst team since Fitzroy we still beat the 2016 team in our ability to score (albeit by 1 point).
Quoting how much of the score Jack kicks is not a useful stat unless it shows that if he kicks less (being up the field) we kick more overall. That hasn't happened. Sure we improved as a team, but that may have happened because our champs were more experienced and heading into their prime. You can also say that overall, teams scored less or more in certain years but this was never the argument. Remember I said as Jack has headed up the ground our scoring has decreased. That is pretty much an undeniable fact. It may be due to multifactorial reasons, but it has happened. Whether there is a direct causal relationship between the two is almost impossible to prove or disprove. However as big tone put it, you play your best forward up forward. Simple.
The other way I look at it is if I was an opposition coach, I'd love to see Riewoldt on the wings nowhere near goal. I'd rather do what opposition coaches wouldn't want....
if you cant see how the percantage of the teams score a bloke kicks when taken into context with overall performance, in a discussion about if he is more valuable to the team kicking the goals himself or creating them for others.........
and if you cant see if you are going to use only the points kicked for as an argument then it is imperative you understand that as game styles change some years the whole comp kicks less goals that other years.............
and if you want to bring into a discussion about whether a bloke should play high or deep forward, comments about playing on the wing.........
then id be better off discussing it with WAT
Is it your gender confusion or something else clouding your mind?
How can you take one aspect like percentage of a teams goals and equate that to ANYTHING about a team's performance without taking into account ANY other aspect of how the team is playing when looking at overall performance? How about better defence, more experienced players, refined game plan that has been better practised, better clearances and team structure etc etc etc. For all we know, if we kept Jack forward and he kicked more goals others may have kicked more goals too because of all the other things I've mentioned. You can't tell me it wouldn't happen because we don't know.
You are trying to place a simplistic view on a complex situation.
I was not talking about overall performance which IS more complex. I was simply stating that with Jack playing more deeply forward we have scored more heavily. That is an undeniable fact supported by statistics that I have provided. That is what I stated originally and what I have argued. It is you that has had to take it to other levels like overall performance because you are trying to change the argument you have lost so badly.
And if you bothered actually going to the games yourself you would have noted how many times Jack was playing midfield and wing as well as playing in defence. That is what actually happened and why many of us have been frustrated that he hasn't been forward creating goals.
And you don't have to keep canning WAT. He has his own thoughts and you should respect them instead of being a gender confused cyberbully. >:(
This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
Wha d ya say WP?
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
LMAO.
That is a completely different discussion. Why do you keep changing the discussion point? You asked about the evidence about our ability to score and Jack playing up forward. The best stat by a mile that shows our ability to score is points for. That is what I provided. I never stated anything else.
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Gah my eyes!!
:clapping
Folks any chance of editing out some of the quotes and only highlighting what you are answering to
Believe it or not it is supposedly one (of a few) reason why a former long termer no longer posts here got sick of wading through this sort of stuff
Kid you not :thumbsup
Sounds quite precious. FMD
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This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
You better think that through a bit more Rob.
Points for may be a general stat to you but it is the best stat to show a sides ability to hit the scoreboard over a year. That is what we are discussing and because of that it is a very specific stat in relation to the discussion.
Just like points against is a measure of the sides ability to defend and is often quoted to compare defences.
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This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
You better think that through a bit more Rob.
Points for may be a general stat to you but it is the best stat to show a sides ability to hit the scoreboard over a year. That is what we are discussing and because of that it is a very specific stat in relation to the discussion.
Just like points against is a measure of the sides ability to defend and is often quoted to compare defences.
I'd say perhaps you should be the one thinking through things because that's the most basic piece analysis possible with an unecessarily condescending tone.
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This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
You better think that through a bit more Rob.
Points for may be a general stat to you but it is the best stat to show a sides ability to hit the scoreboard over a year. That is what we are discussing and because of that it is a very specific stat in relation to the discussion.
Just like points against is a measure of the sides ability to defend and is often quoted to compare defences.
I'd say perhaps you should be the one thinking through things because that's the most basic piece analysis possible with an unecessarily condescending tone.
I disagree. I was responding to his post - without condescending face palms either. Or do you just choose to ignore things like that because they don't suit your agenda?
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This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
You better think that through a bit more Rob.
Points for may be a general stat to you but it is the best stat to show a sides ability to hit the scoreboard over a year. That is what we are discussing and because of that it is a very specific stat in relation to the discussion.
Just like points against is a measure of the sides ability to defend and is often quoted to compare defences.
I'd say perhaps you should be the one thinking through things because that's the most basic piece analysis possible with an unecessarily condescending tone.
I disagree. I was responding to his post - without condescending face palms either. Or do you just choose to ignore things like that because they don't suit your agenda?
What agenda? You making assumptions too often that jump at shadows. Besides, since when did 2 wrongs make a right?
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This from the person who brought up a general stat to support a specific statement
:facepalm
You better think that through a bit more Rob.
Points for may be a general stat to you but it is the best stat to show a sides ability to hit the scoreboard over a year. That is what we are discussing and because of that it is a very specific stat in relation to the discussion.
Just like points against is a measure of the sides ability to defend and is often quoted to compare defences.
I'd say perhaps you should be the one thinking through things because that's the most basic piece analysis possible with an unecessarily condescending tone.
I disagree. I was responding to his post - without condescending face palms either. Or do you just choose to ignore things like that because they don't suit your agenda?
What agenda? You making assumptions too often that jump at shadows. Besides, since when did 2 wrongs make a right?
Firstly I wasn't condescending, so it's only one wrong. Secondly, the only wrong bit you make no comments on so you seem unbalanced in your criticism. And since when have you been the moral police around here anyway? Chuck is a big boy, he can look after himself. He doesn't need you stepping in to defend him. If he takes offence to it then it is up to him to take it up with me.
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
LMAO.
That is a completely different discussion. Why do you keep changing the discussion point? You asked about the evidence about our ability to score and Jack playing up forward. The best stat by a mile that shows our ability to score is points for. That is what I provided. I never stated anything else.
Yeah you provide stats to back that up, but you deceptively left out the stats of 2013 and 2014, which were down on 2015, when Jack played considerably more time up the ground.
Your simplistic approach does not take into account scoring trends accross the comp, but you made it clear you dont think its important to take that into account, which shows a total lack of logical application.
And I have never changed anything, my original question was why do people think its more important that jack kicks the goals himself rather that create goals for team mates. I've shown before that if you combine his goal assists and goal kicked, from 2011-2015 it is basically the same.
Whats the point of arguing what is best for the player rather than the team?
Do you prefer to see a player win a coleman than have team success? That argument is the red herring, one of which you have not backed up in a way that holds up to scrutiny anyway.
Amazing stuff.
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
LMAO.
That is a completely different discussion. Why do you keep changing the discussion point? You asked about the evidence about our ability to score and Jack playing up forward. The best stat by a mile that shows our ability to score is points for. That is what I provided. I never stated anything else.
Yeah you provide stats to back that up, but you deceptively left out the stats of 2013 and 2014, which were down on 2015, when Jack played considerably more time up the ground.
Your simplistic approach does not take into account scoring trends accross the comp, but you made it clear you dont think its important to take that into account, which shows a total lack of logical application.
And I have never changed anything, my original question was why do people think its more important that jack kicks the goals himself rather that create goals for team mates. I've shown before that if you combine his goal assists and goal kicked, from 2011-2015 it is basically the same.
Whats the point of arguing what is best for the player rather than the team?
Do you prefer to see a player win a coleman than have team success? That argument is the red herring, one of which you have not backed up in a way that holds up to scrutiny anyway.
Amazing stuff.
It does not matter what the scoring trend was across the whole competition. What matters much more is the scoring trend of the top few sides. After all you want to emulate the top few sides, not the bottom 12 sides of the competition. When you look at those sides there has not been much of a change in their scoring ability. You will occasionally get a fantastic side scoring a lot (Hawthorn) or not (Freo) but all in all they are in the same ball park.
I actually believe that if you play players in positions that is best for them, their output is at its greatest and in that way the team benefits most which actually means that it ends up being best for the team.
Simplistically, do you think that if Riewoldt kicks 135 goals in 2017, we will have had a good year or a bad year as a team? I think the chances would be that our year would be outstanding. Alternatively, if Riewoldt kicks 35 goals I think there is a far higher chance of the team performing poorly overall.
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
LMAO.
That is a completely different discussion. Why do you keep changing the discussion point? You asked about the evidence about our ability to score and Jack playing up forward. The best stat by a mile that shows our ability to score is points for. That is what I provided. I never stated anything else.
Yeah you provide stats to back that up, but you deceptively left out the stats of 2013 and 2014, which were down on 2015, when Jack played considerably more time up the ground.
Your simplistic approach does not take into account scoring trends accross the comp, but you made it clear you dont think its important to take that into account, which shows a total lack of logical application.
And I have never changed anything, my original question was why do people think its more important that jack kicks the goals himself rather that create goals for team mates. I've shown before that if you combine his goal assists and goal kicked, from 2011-2015 it is basically the same.
Whats the point of arguing what is best for the player rather than the team?
Do you prefer to see a player win a coleman than have team success? That argument is the red herring, one of which you have not backed up in a way that holds up to scrutiny anyway.
Amazing stuff.
It does not matter what the scoring trend was across the whole competition. What matters much more is the scoring trend of the top few sides. After all you want to emulate the top few sides, not the bottom 12 sides of the competition. When you look at those sides there has not been much of a change in their scoring ability. You will occasionally get a fantastic side scoring a lot (Hawthorn) or not (Freo) but all in all they are in the same ball park.
I actually believe that if you play players in positions that is best for them, their output is at its greatest and in that way the team benefits most which actually means that it ends up being best for the team.
Simplistically, do you think that if Riewoldt kicks 135 goals in 2017, we will have had a good year or a bad year as a team? I think the chances would be that our year would be outstanding. Alternatively, if Riewoldt kicks 35 goals I think there is a far higher chance of the team performing poorly overall.
Why bring an unrealistic scenario into the equation?, I think you are grasping here for credibility
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of course it matters what the scoring trend accross the comp is.
if you score 2000 in a year when the highest is 2100 and only three teams score more than two thousand for the year, theres a good chance you have performed better than in a year when when you score 2100, the highest is 2500, 10 teams score more than 2000 and 7 of those teams scored more than you.
Following your simpleton line of thought, Richmond performed better in the 1972 grand final than any other grand final they played in except 1980.
Any one with half a brain understands that its not important how much you score, but how much you score relative to the competition, yet you obviously cant grasp that concept?
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lmao
whats the point of scoring more heavily if it doesnt equate to a better win loss ratio and percentage?
and im the one trying to look at it simplisticly?
far out, when your late, you are very ardy
LMAO.
That is a completely different discussion. Why do you keep changing the discussion point? You asked about the evidence about our ability to score and Jack playing up forward. The best stat by a mile that shows our ability to score is points for. That is what I provided. I never stated anything else.
Yeah you provide stats to back that up, but you deceptively left out the stats of 2013 and 2014, which were down on 2015, when Jack played considerably more time up the ground.
Your simplistic approach does not take into account scoring trends accross the comp, but you made it clear you dont think its important to take that into account, which shows a total lack of logical application.
And I have never changed anything, my original question was why do people think its more important that jack kicks the goals himself rather that create goals for team mates. I've shown before that if you combine his goal assists and goal kicked, from 2011-2015 it is basically the same.
Whats the point of arguing what is best for the player rather than the team?
Do you prefer to see a player win a coleman than have team success? That argument is the red herring, one of which you have not backed up in a way that holds up to scrutiny anyway.
Amazing stuff.
It does not matter what the scoring trend was across the whole competition. What matters much more is the scoring trend of the top few sides. After all you want to emulate the top few sides, not the bottom 12 sides of the competition. When you look at those sides there has not been much of a change in their scoring ability. You will occasionally get a fantastic side scoring a lot (Hawthorn) or not (Freo) but all in all they are in the same ball park.
I actually believe that if you play players in positions that is best for them, their output is at its greatest and in that way the team benefits most which actually means that it ends up being best for the team.
Simplistically, do you think that if Riewoldt kicks 135 goals in 2017, we will have had a good year or a bad year as a team? I think the chances would be that our year would be outstanding. Alternatively, if Riewoldt kicks 35 goals I think there is a far higher chance of the team performing poorly overall.
Why bring an unrealistic scenario into the equation?, I think you are grasping here for credibility
Why don't you actually add something to the conversation Rob?
All you seem to do is say that I lack credibility, put up facepalms and take cheap pot shots at me. Why don't you be a man and actually say something meaningful?
Buddy Franklin kicked 113 in a year that hawthorn won the flag. I just gave an extreme example which was more to illustrate clearly the difference between a high goal kicking season and a low one. A high goal kicking season by a key forward is now much more common in a successful team than an unsuccessful team. It was to show that my argument had validity. If you want to get picky and say that 135 goals in unlikely that is your prerogative, but it illustrates that you failed to understand the basic premise behind the comparison.
You have been taking pot shots at WAT, Jackstar and now me. Just grow up and start behaving like a 46 year old bloke should.
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of course it matters what the scoring trend accross the comp is.
if you score 2000 in a year when the highest is 2100 and only three teams score more than two thousand for the year, theres a good chance you have performed better than in a year when when you score 2100, the highest is 2500, 10 teams score more than 2000 and 7 of those teams scored more than you.
Following your simpleton line of thought, Richmond performed better in the 1972 grand final than any other grand final they played in except 1980.
Any one with half a brain understands that its not important how much you score, but how much you score relative to the competition, yet you obviously cant grasp that concept?
Firstly you didn't answer the question I posed. Why not?
Secondly, you pick the only game in VFL/AFL history when a side scored 150 points in a GF and lost. I hardly think that is the way you support your argument. You use common scenarios not a one in a million phenomenon. How about I say that in the history of footy scoring 150 points in a GF would statistically have won a premiership in any year other than 1972. That is a much better way of looking at it. Of course I understand it's how you defend as well. The problem is you cannot prove that playing Riewoldt further up field has been successful for the team. There is no statistic you can come up with that actually specifies that it was that move that improved us. So just give up because most on here agree that Richmond as a team play better when Riewoldt plays deeper forward than further up the ground. This year I believe this is the plan so let's just see if we score better. There is no way you can convince me that playing Riewoldt up the field allows us to defend better so I think that part of the argument is irrelevant.
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of course it matters what the scoring trend accross the comp is.
if you score 2000 in a year when the highest is 2100 and only three teams score more than two thousand for the year, theres a good chance you have performed better than in a year when when you score 2100, the highest is 2500, 10 teams score more than 2000 and 7 of those teams scored more than you.
Following your simpleton line of thought, Richmond performed better in the 1972 grand final than any other grand final they played in except 1980.
Any one with half a brain understands that its not important how much you score, but how much you score relative to the competition, yet you obviously cant grasp that concept?
Firstly you didn't answer the question I posed. Why not?
Secondly, you pick the only game in VFL/AFL history when a side scored 150 points in a GF and lost. I hardly think that is the way you support your argument. You use common scenarios not a one in a million phenomenon. How about I say that in the history of footy scoring 150 points in a GF would statistically have won a premiership in any year other than 1972. That is a much better way of looking at it. Of course I understand it's how you defend as well. The problem is you cannot prove that playing Riewoldt further up field has been successful for the team. There is no statistic you can come up with that actually specifies that it was that move that improved us. So just give up because most on here agree that Richmond as a team play better when Riewoldt plays deeper forward than further up the ground. This year I believe this is the plan so let's just see if we score better. There is no way you can convince me that playing Riewoldt up the field allows us to defend better so I think that part of the argument is irrelevant.
So why draw responses from people if your mind can't be changed? Seems like a waste of everyone's time.
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of course it matters what the scoring trend accross the comp is.
if you score 2000 in a year when the highest is 2100 and only three teams score more than two thousand for the year, theres a good chance you have performed better than in a year when when you score 2100, the highest is 2500, 10 teams score more than 2000 and 7 of those teams scored more than you.
Following your simpleton line of thought, Richmond performed better in the 1972 grand final than any other grand final they played in except 1980.
Any one with half a brain understands that its not important how much you score, but how much you score relative to the competition, yet you obviously cant grasp that concept?
Firstly you didn't answer the question I posed. Why not?
Secondly, you pick the only game in VFL/AFL history when a side scored 150 points in a GF and lost. I hardly think that is the way you support your argument. You use common scenarios not a one in a million phenomenon. How about I say that in the history of footy scoring 150 points in a GF would statistically have won a premiership in any year other than 1972. That is a much better way of looking at it. Of course I understand it's how you defend as well. The problem is you cannot prove that playing Riewoldt further up field has been successful for the team. There is no statistic you can come up with that actually specifies that it was that move that improved us. So just give up because most on here agree that Richmond as a team play better when Riewoldt plays deeper forward than further up the ground. This year I believe this is the plan so let's just see if we score better. There is no way you can convince me that playing Riewoldt up the field allows us to defend better so I think that part of the argument is irrelevant.
So why draw responses from people if your mind can't be changed? Seems like a waste of everyone's time.
Did you even read the post? Really? I said defend. The whole posting has been on scoring, not defending. I am willing to hear a convincing argument that it would be better for the team overall but I haven't yet heard one. I haven't been presented with any statistic that definitely shows that the team plays better with Riewoldt up the ground. Riewoldt's position away from deep forward has little to do with our defending and even if it did, do you really think that the negative impact it would have on our scoring would be offset by more of a positive impact in our defending? That is what you and Penelope/Alistair are trying to tell me.
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I think your last post is fair but I would equally say you haven't nailed it any better with your argument that states we are better off in the goal square. Perhaps cloning is the real solution :cheers
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I think your last post is fair but I would equally say you haven't nailed it any better with your argument that states we are better off in the goal square. Perhaps cloning is the real solution :cheers
:cheers
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of course it matters what the scoring trend accross the comp is.
if you score 2000 in a year when the highest is 2100 and only three teams score more than two thousand for the year, theres a good chance you have performed better than in a year when when you score 2100, the highest is 2500, 10 teams score more than 2000 and 7 of those teams scored more than you.
Following your simpleton line of thought, Richmond performed better in the 1972 grand final than any other grand final they played in except 1980.
Any one with half a brain understands that its not important how much you score, but how much you score relative to the competition, yet you obviously cant grasp that concept?
Firstly you didn't answer the question I posed. Why not?
Secondly, you pick the only game in VFL/AFL history when a side scored 150 points in a GF and lost. I hardly think that is the way you support your argument. You use common scenarios not a one in a million phenomenon. How about I say that in the history of footy scoring 150 points in a GF would statistically have won a premiership in any year other than 1972. That is a much better way of looking at it. Of course I understand it's how you defend as well. The problem is you cannot prove that playing Riewoldt further up field has been successful for the team. There is no statistic you can come up with that actually specifies that it was that move that improved us. So just give up because most on here agree that Richmond as a team play better when Riewoldt plays deeper forward than further up the ground. This year I believe this is the plan so let's just see if we score better. There is no way you can convince me that playing Riewoldt up the field allows us to defend better so I think that part of the argument is irrelevant.
Your question wasn't answered directly because it is unrealistic and extreme. Yet you pot me for using circumstances that have actually happened, and it highlights the folly of your line of reasoning that how much you score in comparison to the opposition is not important, just how much you score is. That is seriously down there with watching the ball as you kick it makes you a bad kick.
Nor could I give a stuff what most people agree on, consensus doesnt make it right and I'm not about to change my thinking just because everyone else thinks that way. No-one has even gone close to showing that playing jack in the goal square is better for the team than playing him further up the ground, least of all you with your airy fairy, circular non logic, deceptively excluding stats that doesn't suit your argument and throwing red herring about.
Also, as I've said, there is another very important part to the equation, but given the discussion so far, I have no doubt you would not be able to grasp that concept either.
I'm not trying to convince anyone that playing Jack further up the ground makes us defend better. where did you draw that from?
it just gets more amazingly stupid and irrational.
Just to sum your thought patterns
....do you think that if Riewoldt kicks 135 goals in 2017.....
I hardly think that is the way you support your argument .You use common scenarios ......
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Sore Jack Riewoldt a certain starter for round one
AFL.com.au
March 11, 2017
JACK Riewoldt is a certain starter for round one despite tweaking his ankle late in Richmond's seven-point loss to Collingwood in their JLT Community Series hit-out in Moe on Saturday.
Riewoldt limped from the field after falling awkwardly on his left ankle in a marking contest and hobbled around in pain for several minutes before retreating to the interchange bench.
The star forward was moving freely after the game, without a bandage on his ankle, and coach Damien Hardwick said there was nothing to worry about.
"He was fine and he was trying to get back on in the end," Hardwick said.
"It was just a conservative approach by us.
"He came down awkwardly but we're not too worried by it."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-11/sore-jack-riewoldt-a-certain-starter-for-round-one
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Jack was interviewed by Ch 7 & 9 news outside Punt Rd Oval and he said his ankle is fine. He just reacted because it was the same ankle he had reconstructed over the offseason.
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I actually believe that if you play players in positions that is best for them, their output is at its greatest and in that way the team benefits most which actually means that it ends up being best for the team.
That would be lovely but what about when you have Jack and Vickery (based on RFC coaches beliefs) who both are best played out of the square? Do you say stuff it and only play one of them despite them being our two best KPF
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A Jack of all trades
On a slippery night not in now way suited to high-marking forwards, Jack Riewoldt's influence on the game was remarkable. As the rain teemed down at the MCG early in the game, Riewoldt's two goals in the first quarter were a sight to behold. The star forward's first, a snap off a step on his right boot, was quickly followed by a left-foot curler just as good as his first effort. Riewoldt finished with six goals on the night, including the match-winner in the final quarter, to almost singlehandedly win the match off his own boot. The star Tiger has elevated his own game to a new level this season and it is a more versatile Riewoldt that has become one of the AFL's very best.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-24/five-talking-points-richmond-v-melbourne
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Jack's 6 goals:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-04-24/round-5-riewoldt-kicks-six
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Clear Best on Ground from JR. his ability to actually mark the ball im the wet and straight kicking really kept us in it and also got us over the line
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Champion player Jack .
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The standard is set. I expect this output every week now.
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The standard is set. I expect this output every week now.
You expect him to be best on ground every week as a key forward? Hmm.
Good to see he was kicking around his body well last night. Had been struggling with that this year and it's normally a strength of his.
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Seems to have the confidence in going for his marks again.
Spring in his step and ability to get the ball at ground level has really made him a dangerous
opponent one on one close to goal.
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I thought Jack couldn't play key forward?
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His best game for quite a while. Practised his kicking during the week after training….
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Jack is due for a September haul
If Monday's night's best-on-ground performance from Jack Riewoldt reminded us of anything, it's that the star Richmond forward is close to unstoppable when on song. He kept Richmond in the contest when Melbourne looked headed for a win, and then almost won it off his own boot in the final term to finish with a six-goal bag. Richmond couldn't have started its season off any better as it strives to get back to the finals, and Riewoldt has been the beneficiary of a more direct and free-flowing game style this year. The two-time Coleman medallist performed well in the Tigers' run of elimination final losses from 2013-15 but it will be brilliant to see him back on the big stage at the end of this season if Richmond's form continues. In Monday night's form, anything would be possible. - Callum Twomey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-25/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-five
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Richmond's Alex Rance says Jack Riewoldt has changed for the better
Sam McClure
The Age
26 April 2017
Richmond superstar Alex Rance has praised teammate Jack Riewoldt for turning around his behaviour and becoming one of the club's most significant leaders.
A candid Rance has also conceded he initially misjudged his mercurial teammate earlier in his career, admitting his views about Riewoldt were misinformed.
The Tigers spearhead booted six goals in the come-from-behind win against Melbourne in the Anzac Day eve epic.
After being absent for four years, Riewoldt was this year voted back into the leadership group as a co-vice captain along with Rance, with Trent Cotchin remaining skipper.
Rance said while Riewoldt has always been a star performer on the field, it's what he's been able to achieve behind the scenes that has impressed people at Punt Road the most.
"Jack and I have a lot of similarities. We're both very passionate blokes and very outspoken. And we're demonstrative in how we express our emotions," Rance told 3AW.
"There are things he went through over the last few years that I can safely say that I was wrong about.
"A lot of my judgments on his leadership over the past few years [were wrong] and this year he's arguably one of the best leaders at our football club.
"We've got a really strong three now with Jack, Trent and myself, who are trying to steer the ship in the right direction and get the most out of everyone else and Jack's been one of the main drivers towards that and I couldn't be more proud of him."
The "things" that Rance alluded to have been well documented.
In May 2014 Riewoldt was lambasted by his coach for criticising the team's game plan.
He said: "Unfortunately, we went one way with our game, and the game went the other way really. We probably tried to copy Hawthorn a little bit too much with our kicking style."
That resulted in Damien Hardwick hitting back in his media conference later that week.
"We caught up with him this morning and removed his foot from his mouth and my foot from his arse," the coach said.
In the same week, in an extraordinary attempt to avoid a waiting media throng, Riewoldt jumped a construction fence at Punt Road Oval.
But Rance says Riewoldt has made a concerted effort to change, and now everyone is benefiting.
"What he did earlier in his career, he was quite vocal and he probably got himself in a little bit of hot water in the media a few times about speaking his mind a little too much.
"And I probably held onto that for a bit longer for what I should've. I think he grew out of that over the past few years.
"I think it was an important learning curve for him in terms of being part of a whole and sometimes you need to bite your lip and not say exactly what you're thinking."
After his bag of six on Monday night, Riewoldt has 14 for the season and 497 for his career.
"This year and last year especially he's been probably a more well-rounded leader," Rance said.
"He's really turned it around more so from an external perception wise and everyone is seeing the fruits of that now."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmonds-alex-rance-says-jack-riewoldt-has-changed-for-the-better-20170425-gvs22s.html
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He was simply outstanding against Melbourne. He not only kicked six goals but set up goals. Deserves enormous credit.
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He was spot on in 2014, Dimma should've removed his ego from the conversation and we might've seen a very different couple of seasons
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so he got punished for honesty, good lesson for the kids I spose. No good deed goes unpunished LOL
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The club knows what he said was right but it's all about media image. Players are trained to give nothing responses, not necessarily lie just avoid the question as obvious in many interviews. He made the club look stupid by saying we went the wrong way with the game plan ( we looked stupid anyway ) but to hear it from one of the players obviously isn't s great look.
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I'd much rather players be straight up and honest. talk of 4 walls and following the process and working on it in training make my head explode. I actually have more respect for Riewoldt for being straight up about it.
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I'd much rather players be straight up and honest. talk of 4 walls and following the process and working on it in training make my head explode. I actually have more respect for Riewoldt for being straight up about it.
I agree completely but just not the way it is.
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Am really enjoying seeing Jack play closer to goal. Surprise surprise, he's kicking more big ones. Thankfully our main man Vickery has moved on so Jack doesn't have the be the decoy lead anymore...
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Jack's defensive work jumping out of the box
Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
30 April 2017
JACK Riewoldt has long been considered one of the AFL's premier forwards, but the star Tiger's contribution to his team's rollicking start to 2017 cannot be underplayed.
As has been typical throughout his 207-game career, Riewoldt's impact on the scoreboard – 14 goals from five games – has been profound.
A six-goal haul against Melbourne in wet and slippery conditions underlined that Riewoldt is playing some of the best football of his career.
The Richmond star is No.1 in the competition for marks inside 50 (20) as he spends more time closer to goal this year, with the Tigers doing a better job of allowing their star players to play with a freedom not seen in past seasons.
However, an area of the in-form forward's game that has been vastly improved is his ability to apply pressure to the opposition.
Pressing up the ground and forcing turnovers in their own forward half is one of the key reasons behind the Tigers' unbeaten start to 2017 and Jack is leading from the front in this area.
Riewoldt has laid 10 tackles inside 50 this season, ranking equal-eighth in the AFL and just four behind competition leader Jeff Garlett from Melbourne.
Interestingly, Geelong's Tom Hawkins – not regarded as a defensive pressure expert – sits in second position on that table.
According to Champion Data, Hawkins is the only key forward to rate elite (in the top 10 per cent of the competition) for goals and tackles this season.
Riewoldt, Sydney's Lance Franklin and Hawthorn's Jarryd Roughead are rated above average (top 35 per cent) for both stats, pointing to the esteemed company the Richmond spearhead is in.
Riewoldt led this statistic after round three with nine tackles inside forward 50 and Richmond forwards coach Justin Leppitsch said it was a key driver in Riewoldt's evolution as a player.
"Jack's really bought into the team aspect of the game," Leppitsch said.
"Not that he wasn't already team orientated but he's really taking that part of his leadership role seriously and that includes the team acts.
"He's been going well."
By comparison, Riewoldt laid 17 tackles inside 50 from 22 games last season.
The star Tiger was added to the club's leadership group after a four-year absence and Leppitsch said that Riewoldt was more aware of setting the tone for his teammates.
The inclusions of youngsters Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler and Jason Castagna into the Tigers' forward line has injected new life into Riewoldt, according to Leppitsch.
"From an offensive perspective, Jack's got the game well covered," Leppitsch said.
"But from a defensive perspective he was looking like the fourth or fifth best player down there at one point.
"He needed to improve to keep up with some of those boys who were setting the scene. He drives that now and he really appreciates that part of the game."
Teammate Dylan Grimes said the defensive improvement in Riewoldt's game had allowed him to play more on instinct.
"One thing he does better than anyone else at the club is to just play the game," Grimes said.
"He's a natural footballer and in big moments and contests he knows exactly what to do with his body, whether that be to take a mark or lay a big tackle."
Stats supplied by Champion Data
FORWARD 50 TACKLE LEADERS
# Player Matches Tackles
1 J. Garlett (MFC) 5 14
2 T. Hawkins (GFC) 5 13
3 J. Cripps (WCFC) 5 12
4 D. Zorko (BFC) 5 11
5 P. Puopolo (HFC) 5 11
6 J. Lonie (SKFC) 4 11
7 C. Dixon (PAFC) 5 10
8 J. Riewoldt (RFC) 5 10
9 J. Barrett (BFC) 3 10
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-30/jacks-defensive-pressure-jumping-out-of-the-box
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Noticed Jack has quietly moved to within just 4 goals of the lead in the Coleman. His goals per game average so far this year is his best since 2012.
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jack_Riewoldt.html
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His game Saturday night was outstanding. Marks, tackles, score involvements and goals. The complete forwards game.
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Sorry guys but it's been (overly)expressed on this forum by some that he is not a key forwards A-hole :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Sorry guys but it's been (overly)expressed on this forum by some that he is not a key forwards A-hole :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Agree and it has been quite embarrassing some of the posts about JR in this thread itself, some people should hang their heads in shame
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Oh look....
Moves closer to goal, kicks more goals, Richmond win more games... :shh
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Oh look, we'd like Jack to kick less goals...
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Oh look, we'd like Jack to kick less goals...
Almost hardwicked for good
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Jack Riewoldt ready for Michael Hurley challenge
JON RALPH,
Herald Sun
27 May 2017
AS kid fresh from Tasmania, Jack Riewoldt’s AFL debut came as Matthew Richardson’s late push on Mal Michael defined the first “Dreamtime” contest.
Riewoldt managed just five touches as Richardson’s classic goal was cancelled out and the Tigers coughed up another late lead.
On Saturday Tigers elder Riewoldt enters Saturday’s Dreamtime at the ‘G clash knowing he must shine to help Richmond snap a four-game losing streak.
Riewoldt’s task is immense — taking on and beating white-hot Essendon defender Michael Hurley.
The Tigers vice-captain has led a more versatile forward line this year but remains the only key position forward of note.
He said this week their series of match-ups actually predated their senior careers, adamant he must run Hurley hard to win their Dreamtime battle.
“He is the bloke I have played on the most. I actually played on him a little bit when I was cutting my teeth at (VFL affiliate) Coburg,’’ Riewoldt said.
“I have played on him a lot and I am very, very respectful of the player he is and he is the guy who has adapted the best after having the year off (from ASADA bans).
“He’s a been a really strong focal point at their footy club.”
Champion Data’s direct match-ups show three concentrated battles — two in 2015 and one in 2011 which all gave the points to Hurley.
Riewoldt kicked only a pair of goals in those encounters, but has an excellent 25.14 from nine games so far.
He told SEN radio this week his summers spent tackling the AFL’s best defender put in him in good stead with a player not too far behind the Richmond no. 18.
“He is very quick and very strong, one of those guys who is very similar to playing on Alex Rance in the intraclubs, so I try to get him up the ground,’’ he said.
“These days footy is never a one-on-one contest, so you won’t see me on him the whole game.
“I was fortunate to debut in the first Dreamtime at the ‘G game and we have won a few late but (they won through) Lloydy’s goal late in the first game.
“They have always been pretty good battles between our footy clubs. In my time at Richmond we have all been around the same path, they have played finals when we have played them.
“It is going to be such an important round not only for us but with the Sir Doug Nicholls indigenous round.”
Riewoldt started the season adamant he wanted to take charge of the forward line with leadership like Rance exhibits across the Tigers back six.
If not for those late losses that mission would have been a resounding success, Riewoldt taking Dan Rioli, Jason Castagna, Dan Butler and Shai Bolton under his wing.
Bolton would have been hailed as the first-game matchwinner had his late goal not been overruled in Saturday’s loss to GWS.
Riewoldt says the club cannot afford to dwell on those losses — the only remedy is to seal the deal in the next tight contest.
“The game is mental, the game is physical. We just need to perform better. We have done a huge amount of mental work and people can read into (those losses) what they want.
“But we feel like we are in a pretty good space and we would have loved to have won the last three games and been a game clear on the ladder but there is no point crying over spilt milk.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-ready-for-michael-hurley-challenge-in-dreamtime-match/news-story/98cb3e4ced087cff3009d507e1420e19
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IMV Jack's got the yips because he's not following his normal routine which is a smooth 9 step run up and kicking through the ball. At the moment he's 'stopping' halfway through and stabbing at the footy off a couple of steps. He's also getting too close to the man on the mark which causes the kicker to hook or slice the ball off the boot.
At least he kicked the one in the last quarter when it mattered this week.
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Get your poo together Jack!
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In his post Match interview this peanut (who I have supported strongly in the past) connected Ramadan to "nights like these" and "Inclusiveness". If you are going to go all SJW buddy know your history and facts!
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He did what?
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In his post Match interview this peanut (who I have supported strongly in the past) connected Ramadan to "nights like these" and "Inclusiveness". If you are going to go all SJW buddy know your history and facts!
What a stuffn moron.
Plus,
He gives dirty stares back at Caddy who "stole" jacks Mark.
Might be ok if Jack actually kicked straight himself.
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Houli can stuff right off too.
Clueless footballer without a gram of natural skill who gets a specialist role ant Richmond.
Pea heart who pretends every shirk wasn't hs fault.
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He did what?
Watch his post match interview with Ling and listen closely. I missed it the first time I saw it. When referring to the Dreamtime theme he connected Ramadan and put it collectively under the banner of 'inclusiveness'...idiot he is.
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Jack has taken the most contested marks (11) in the AFL over the past 3 rounds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-06/the-stats-files-why-moore-and-the-magpies-started-hitting-winners
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Need to brush off the yips in front of the sticks!
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Star spearhead Jack Riewoldt is set to break a four-decade Richmond record when he lines up against Sydney at the MCG on Saturday.
It will be Riewoldt’s 214th game of league football, which means he goes past four-time Tiger premiership hero Dick Clay as the player with the most appearances in the No. 8 Yellow and Black guernsey.
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-06-11/riewoldts-great-eight-feat
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Jack's consistency at kicking multiple goals each week has pushed him up and back into the Coleman medal race. So far he's kicked 34 goals and is only 5 goals behind leader Jeremy Cameron.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-06-28/riewoldt-on-a-multiple-goal-roll
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Jack Riewoldt says the Richmond rollercoaster ride has been worth it as he eyes preliminary final berth
GLENN McFARLANE,
Herald Sun
9 September 2017
AN emotional Jack Riewoldt savoured his first finals victory after what has so far been an 11-season “rollercoaster” ride with Richmond, but insisted the Tigers’ job is still far from done.
Riewoldt had played in three finals for three losses before Friday night’s breakthrough qualifying final win over Geelong, but is looking with confidence at a preliminary final in 11 days’ time.
“I’ve been here the longest, me and Shane Edwards, we were drafted at the end of 2006, so it has been a long wait,” the Tigers’ forward said. “It is just great to win.”
“This means a lot to us. It is important for our club, it is important for our fans and the players and the staff.
“I have really been thrilled by the faces of the fans who have been with us on the rollercoaster over however many years. It’s a credit to the club. But our job is only one third of the way done.”
Always a character who has been prepared to show his feelings, Riewoldt was on the verge of shedding a tear in the victorious rooms after the game, but was controlled enough to be looking forward, not back.
He said he was “loving” his role at the club, and had never been part of such a special group of players before, saying they were different to almost every other team in the competition.
“We certainly believe in ourselves,” the 28-year-old said of the team that has been the surprise packet of the season so far. “We feel we are worthy, we are different, we are unusual.”
Riewoldt said the outstanding performance of the team this year — after finishing 13th with only eight wins in 2016 — had been fuelled by the depth of support the Richmond faithful had provided them.
“We have embraced that,” he said. “We are so lucky to have them behind us. We’ve got a big support base, 75,000 members and it felt like every single one of them was there (at the MCG).”
He had 16 disposals and took six marks, finishing as one of 11 Tigers with at least one goal. “That’s not new,” he said of the sharing of the goals. “We’ve been having a lot of different goalkickers all year.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-says-the-richmond-rollercoaster-ride-has-been-worth-it-as-he-eyes-preliminary-final-berth/news-story/6cb4de02db76361ce95ab2971df4a422
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'Mozzie' still creating a buzz at Tigerland
afl.com.au
21 September 2017
THE SPOTLIGHT has always followed Jack Riewoldt. From his early emergence as a superstar goalkicker, to the on-field antics that saw his passion and exuberance misunderstood as petulance.
But something has changed in 2017. The spotlight has shone elsewhere at Punt Road Oval and Riewoldt has gone about his business quietly, playing a crucial role but with little fanfare.
His leadership appears natural, his passion is channelled in ways that help the team, and his success as a player can be measured by what those around him are doing, not only by his own goal tally.
He seems to have hit a sweet spot after years as a brilliant but volatile talent, and Richmond has benefitted immensely this year. How times have changed.
When Riewoldt arrived at Richmond at the end of 2006 as an energetic and spirited teenager from Tasmania, he earned the nickname 'Mozzie'.
The Tigers had conducted personality profiling on all of their players at the time, adopting a system previously used by the Brisbane Lions, the Australian Cricket team and the NRL's Brisbane Broncos.
Created by leading sports performance psychologist Phil Jauncey, players were put in a category and the Mozzie box was reserved for those who were talkative, social and high in energy. Riewoldt was "off the charts Mozzie".
"He was buzzing around all the time," said Craig McRae, who joined Richmond at the same time as Riewoldt as player development coach.
"That's why they started calling him the Mozzie. It was one of the profiles and it meant you were very social and high energy, and Jack certainly had all that. He was off the charts Mozzie.
"The more experienced guys, with the culture at the time, weren't sure how to take him, but his personality is really engaging and it didn't take long for the playing group to fall in love with him."
It is that personality that has made Riewoldt one of the game's most interesting and exciting players ever since 2009 when he established himself as a key forward with 32 goals.
When he won the Coleman Medal in 2010 with 78 goals, 'Jack' was a superstar of the competition and the king of the kids at Punt Road Oval.
But Riewoldt is now playing in the shadow of superstar Dustin Martin, and it is a dynamic that has meant a remarkable 2017 season, mostly played as a sole marking target in a small forward line, has been under-rated.
When the Tigers have kicked to a target inside 50 this season, Riewoldt has been it 31 per cent of the time. He has been targeted 211 times, with Jason Castagna the next most used (79).
Only Ben Brown (North Melbourne), Josh Kennedy (West Coast) and Tom Lynch (Gold Coast) have been targeted by their teams inside 50 at a higher rate.
It is a taxing role, but rival coaches talk about Riewoldt's football smarts as a key attribute in allowing him to present time and time again.
"He would be under a significant amount of physical pressure to present and create contests, but his footy smarts enable him to be efficient with his work," one rival coach told AFL.com.au.
Riewoldt's leadership with a group of young small forwards has also been a driving force behind the success of an unconventional attacking structure.
Voted into a three-man leadership group as joint vice-captain with Alex Rance, the 28-year-old has taken great pride in the success of the Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler and Castagna combination this season.
"He is forever thinking about them and how he can make them better, whether it's just an arm around them or the celebration after they kick a goal," McRae, who is now Richmond's VFL coach, said.
"There's no doubt his leadership has grown in the last 12 months.
"He didn't have a title previously and that didn't affect him. But now that he does have a title as vice-captain, in my eyes he has grown even more."
McRae remembers seeing leadership traits in Riewoldt when he first arrived at Richmond, but they were different.
He was a player in a hurry and he wanted to be a role model, often speaking up in meetings and finding ways to demonstrate good habits to his fellow development players.
He would slip up, though. McRae had 22 players in his development group, and he called in coaching great David Parkin to put them through a Level Two coaching course.
"The thought process was there'd be 22 other coaches with me and we'd be able to help each other," McRae said.
"Anyway, David Parkin comes in and as he does he stands at the front and he says to Jack, 'Why are you here, young fella? Why are you here?'
"Jack was in the front row and he says, 'Because 'Fly' (McRae) said it was on the schedule at 11 o'clock'. David looked at him and said, 'Think a little bit deeper son'."
Riewoldt has celebrated teammates' achievements as much as his own in 2017. Picture: AFL Photos
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McRae's coaching path took him from Richmond to the Brisbane Lions in 2010, and then Collingwood from 2011-15.
He returned to coach the Tigers' VFL team for the 2016 season and sat back in those early weeks to watch the players he had developed early in their careers and see how they had come on.
"I saw how vocal and engaged in the group Jack was and thought, 'Wow, hasn't he matured. He's a guy who really is invested in others'," McRae said.
"I saw great quality in Jack and how he had really matured over that time.
"It's gone to a new level this year and his investment in the young small forwards has been unbelievable."
A past member of Richmond's coaching team, who had a key early role with Riewoldt, spoke about the emotion of game day and how it brings out a player's true colours.
For Riewoldt that used to manifest in arguments with umpires and occasionally teammates. His emotion stopped him playing the game and he had detractors.
Now his emotion is channelled towards supporting teammates and the only time it spills over is when an important goal is kicked and his face swells to the point it looks ready to explode.
"He is still an emotional person, but the high and lows on the rollercoaster are not as steep," the coach said.
Riewoldt is still the Mozzie that arrived from Tasmania in 2006, but he has matured and become more rounded while adding new traits to his profile, McRae said.
He will always be a player who wants the ball at big moments, but as a forward and a leader he has learned the value in following as Richmond hopes to write a finals fairytale.
"That's something I've seen this year," McRae said. "He's been able to see that difference between knowing when to drive the bus and when to sit at the back of it."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-21/mozzie-still-creating-a-buzz-at-tigerland
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Need a big game from Jack a few nice marks and goals and kick straight set the tone.
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Might be a bit hard in the wet for Jack but his marking was fantastic against Melbourne so who knows?
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I felt he was definitely overawed against Geel in the QF. I'm hoping he's settled on Saturday - we need some clean hands from him. The wet makes it harder, but he's done it plenty of times before in the wet.
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I felt he was definitely overawed against Geel in the QF. I'm hoping he's settled on Saturday - we need some clean hands from him. The wet makes it harder, but he's done it plenty of times before in the wet.
His kick to Prestia lace out off a step or two was superb. Changed the whole game. :clapping
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Will probably rain in the second half of the game
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I felt he was definitely overawed against Geel in the QF. I'm hoping he's settled on Saturday - we need some clean hands from him. The wet makes it harder, but he's done it plenty of times before in the wet.
His kick to Prestia lace out off a step or two was superb. Changed the whole game. :clapping
Agreed. I reckon he'd settled by then - and what happened? We rolled them from that point.
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Jack is a star of the game and these games are made for him. I'm looking forward to him dragging us over the line.
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Selfless Jack Riewoldt behind Richmond’s charge to the preliminary final
Matthew Lloyd,
Herald Sun
22 September 2017
JACK Riewoldt has become the quiet achiever at Richmond.
Over the past two years Dustin Martin has become the big-bucks superstar on his way to a Brownlow Medal, Alex Rance is now being spoken of as one of the greatest full-backs of all time while Trent Cotchin has taken his game and leadership to new heights over the last 12 months.
Then there is Jack.
Long gone is the emotional and sometimes petulant Jack Riewoldt, who would wear his heart on his sleeve while terrorising opposition full-backs with his pack marking and cat-like skills at ground level while kicking bags of goals.
Riewoldt has had to evolve his game to fit in with what Damien Hardwick best believed would bring Richmond team success and also just how the modern game has changed.
Hardwick has been vindicated with the path he has chosen, one I had been very critical of in the past.
Jack is no longer the dominant force he once was but the Tigers would not be playing in a preliminary final without him.
As a matter of fact, they would be lost without him in their side.
Riewoldt has kicked 51 goals this season from 21 games, a far cry from the 78 goals he kicked from 22 games way back in 2010.
He has not diminished at all as a player as the numbers may suggest. He just plays a completely different game these days.
Riewoldt sits behind only Martin and Shane Edwards as the player who has created the most score assists at Richmond.
Jack is an extremely selfless player and doesn’t come from the school of full-forwards who will take a shot from anywhere inside 50 metres.
Jack has become almost too unselfish.
Riewoldt is also ranked fifth in the AFL overall for key forward score assists. Taylor Walker and Lance Franklin are ranked one and two.
Riewoldt s change in demeanour on the field has been significant.
Looking from afar, Riewoldt to me has always been about team but his emotions have often got the better of him and he has let himself down.
It is for that reason, and maybe one or two more, as to why Riewoldt was never voted in to Richmond’s leadership group in the previous three seasons.
That all changed late last year when Richmond dropped its leadership group down to three after a poor season and Jack was reinstated alongside captain Cotchin and the captain of the backline, Rance.
Rance made the comment in April about how they often looked at Riewoldt’s past and outspoken nature when it came to player leadership voting, which they shouldn’t have and how he’d become one of the main drivers of standards at the football club.
Riewoldt rarely kicks a bag of goals any more, having managed more than four in a game once this year, but he is just as happy celebrating a teammate’s goal as one of his own. I love that about him.
Josh Caddy is the only other big bodied forward in Richmond’s forward line so Riewoldt has done a remarkable job being the sole big target and leading the likes of Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Jacob Townsend.
Who could have imagined that this group of players could be good enough to quite possibly be a premiership winning forward line.
Like the Bulldogs did last year, the forward group at Richmond led by Riewoldt has an unwavering mindset for discipline and hard work.
Riewoldt has had an outstanding season at the Tigers sole big target in attack. Picture: Getty Images
The unrelenting pressure of the Tigers broke Geelong on the big stage of Friday night football in a qualifying final.
That would give them enormous confidence but it has to be replicated again and again for the Tigers to go all the way, but aside from two hours against St Kilda and a half against the Crows, they have not looked like dropping off.
Waver against the GWS and Richmond is asking for serious trouble.
If the Tigers bring full heat I don’t believe the Giants will be able to cope with the pressure Richmond can apply in front of what I expect to be the most one-sided, hostile crowds we will have ever have witnessed.
The Richmond faithful have been waiting a long time for a game of this significance and they will never have a better opportunity to enter a Grand Final than this, given the significant home ground advantage.
It’s Tiger Time and unassuming Jack will be central to the outcome.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/a-selfless-jack-riewoldt-big-reason-richmond-is-playing-in-a-preliminary-final-writes-matthew-lloyd/news-story/cf2964c209ae869c54a7ee8b9e2ca518
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Was quite first half, but lifted after that very smart footballer.
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Is Jack carrying an injury? Just seems to be a bit pedestrian in terms of chasing and leading.
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Don't think so, was just blanketed by the second best defender in the comp
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Soaks up a lot of pressure and effort from oppo defense every game, they get tired just competing with him and chasing him around to prevent him getting a ball. That alone frees up the other blokes. Still scores every game, assists, gets the ball to ground for the scroungers, always has two blokes on him. Anyone who is worth two is gold for mine.
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Needs help though. Maybe the taller Tom Lynch and/or Schache would be a nice sidekick...
Or both :D
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If Lynch doesn't look at us and think stuff i should really really consider a move to punt road then he is bloody nuts.
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Sook
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Riewoldt admits to thinking GF was beyond reach
afl.com.au
24 September 2017
STAR Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt admits he doubted whether he would ever reach a Grand Final as he prepares to help the Tigers land their first premiership since 1980.
He wasn't shying away from a poor individual performance in Saturday's preliminary final win against Greater Western Sydney either.
Richmond come up against minor premiers Adelaide at the MCG next Saturday, a situation that seemed inconceivable after Damien Hardwick's side won only eight games last year.
The Tigers made finals the three years preceding that but lost an elimination final each time.
Riewoldt, 28, shared his concerns before the VFL Grand Final, in which Richmond was one of the participants, on Sunday.
"It's been 12 years and I've never played in a Grand Final before. I'll be honest, at the end of last year, there were points when I thought (about if) I would ever to represent this great football club on the greatest stage that we can play on," Riewoldt told reporters.
"It's a different feeling and one that I've never been involved in at AFL level."
He was drafted at No.13 in 2006 and had never been past the first week of finals in his 224-match career.
An undoubted gun of the competition, Riewoldt was quiet against the Giants, booting just one goal and collecting eight disposals.
A question had begun to be asked by a reporter about the forward's performance before Riewoldt cut it off.
"Let's not beat around the bush, I didn't play very well yesterday," Riewoldt said.
"My role is completely different to what it has been in the past. I like to think that I probably led from the front. I just tried to get those younger guys in the game and provide them with (opportunities for) their strengths, which is getting the ball to ground.
"I didn't have the greatest game but whatever the role the side wants me to play, I just try and play to my best ability."
Riewoldt's cousin Nick lined up in three premiership deciders for St Kilda, and the two have already had a chance meeting.
"I saw him this morning actually, funnily enough. I was driving into the club to go and do some rehab and him and his son James and Luke Ball and his little girl were scootering down the road. Adults and scooters doesn't make for a great look," Riewoldt joked.
"I saw him, pulled over and just had a quick hello. He's sent me a couple of messages already, just well wishes and whatnot but I'll catch up with him and see what it's all about."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-24/riewoldt-admits-to-thinking-gf-was-beyond-reach-
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jack-riewoldts-selfless-role-has-been-critical-to-richmonds-success-says-paul-roos
Paul Roos
News Corp
29 September 2017
JACK Riewoldt was criticised for his lack on contribution in Richmond’s drought-breaking preliminary final win but Paul Roos says the Tigers spearhead has been instrumental in the club’s rise this season.
The premiership coach says Riewoldt has become a critical role player for Richmond as Damien Hardwick bases his attack on a fleet of small forwards.
The dual Coleman Medallist kicked 52 goals this season, four more than last year, and his second lowest return since 2009.
However, Roos believed there has been no better example of Hardwick’s changes in gameplan and philosophy than Riewoldt.
“Riewoldt has been their most significant role player. He’s had an incredibly under-rated season. I think he’s been absolutely amazing,” Roos wrote on website, Players’ Voice.
“I don’t think any other team that’s made a Grand Final has asked a player to do what Jack has done this year – and that’s be the one-out full-forward - the only big man in your forward half of the ground.
“It’s unbelievable what he’s been able to do, and that’s a decision he’s made to sacrifice himself for the team. ‘I’m going to get the ball to the ground every single time.’
“I don’t think he got enough credit for Saturday’s game against the Giants. He talked himself down afterwards, but I thought he was fantastic. They don’t win that game by six goals if he doesn’t get to all those contests and bring the ball to ground. He’s done it week-in, week-out.
“I had him in my All-Australian team. It’s easy to say Lance Franklin did this and that, but Buddy kicked 18 goals in two games against two of the bottom three sides in the competition, and 51 in the other 20 games in the home-and-away season.
“Jack Riewoldt has been one-out the whole year, contributed so much that doesn’t appear next to his name on the stats’ sheet, and still kicked 52 goals.”
Roos said the Tigers’ Grand Final run had been sparked by their role players, similar to the Western Bulldogs last year.
The Tigers rank seventh in points for but importantly third in points against.
“Trent Cotchin has become a role player, and as such he’s elevated his standing in the game. From the captain down they’ve been prepared to make a sacrifice, and look where it’s got them,” Roos said.
“Richmond’s backline doesn’t get enough credit. They’re in the top three defensive teams in the competition having kept the opposition to an average of 75 points a game.
“There were times on the weekend when the Giants got out, got through the pressure of the Richmond small forwards and when they looked up, (Alex) Rance was there, or (David) Astbury was there, or (Nick) Vlastuin, or (Bachar) Houli.
“Rance gets most of the plaudits, but there’s some really good role players, talented players in that back six.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldts-selfless-role-has-been-critical-to-richmonds-success-says-paul-roos/news-story/eafada60e28e30607422992b067125ef
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt tells Mark Robinson about Tigers’ amazing connection
MARK ROBINSON,
Herald Sun
29 September 2017
TO SILENCE and sometimes to tears, every one of them got up and told their story.
There were reflections about grief and family and hardship and fears and challenges and also heroes.
It was powerful and personal, a platform for the 2017 season based on trust which, if you look at how Richmond has played this season, is an extension of the connection created by these tell-alls.
“I would say it would be right up there with the most valued thing within the club,’’ Jack Riewoldt says.
“It was pretty personal from everyone.”
What was it called?
“I can’t tell you that ... it’s too important.”
It began with coach Damien Hardwick in the pre-season after his return from a development course at Harvard University in the US.
He told his players and coaches of his failings and vulnerabilities.
“I really idolised him afterwards for what he did,” says Riewoldt.
“Myself and Trent, Shane, Alex and Dustin have been there for the whole time he’s been there. We’ve seen him get grey hairs and get old and mature into the job and ride the highs and lows. I think with senior coaches, you have to build a game plan, have a bit of personality every now and then, but his ability to strip it back and admit fault made me look within myself. I know the other players think the same.”
Trent Cotchin was next. He spoke of his acceptance of imperfection.
“Just look within, don’t try to be a perfect person because it just doesn’t exists,’’ Riewoldt said. “Trent is a great captain, but his greatest asset is his ability to inspire others with his actions. He’s been challenged but as a captain, a leader in finals, he’s been phenomenal.’’
Week after week, players followed players and coaches, too. Someone would be nominated by the previous speaker and the next week he would stand up in front of the group, 44 players, coaches and some staff, mostly always in the players’ auditorium.
There’s uniformity in that room. Players and coaches sit in the same seat in every meeting. Riewoldt was behind Josh Caddy, beside Ivan Maric and in front of Justin Leppitsch — second back row, on the aisle.
He was about the 10th person chosen. He spoke at the pre-season camp on the Sunshine Coast in January about the grief of losing his cousin Maddie.
“I spoke about my hardship, the passing of Maddie,’’ he said. “Fortunate is not the right word, but I’ve got something to put my grief towards, which is the MRV charity and Maddie’s Match, which is important. I’ve learnt the process of learning how to grieve.
“A lot of our guys have gone through stuff you would never know about unless we had these conversations.
“It was cleansing for some guys to bare their soul and the connection it’s created within the group is awesome.
“The captain and Dimma led it off, they bared their stuff. They were similar in some ways. They’re such great people and so proud, and probably Alex and myself were in the same boat, when we were struggling last year, we all went into complete manic mode, where we tried to turn every stone over to find the answer to get back to where we want to be.
“In doing that, everyone was looking under the same stone, but the thing we needed to do was be more honest with each other, strip it back and become ... not more authentic, but more personal.
“It’s been a humbling process. I’ve learnt more from hearing other people talk about stuff that’s gone on in their life.’’
For example, Bachar Houli spoke about the birth of his daughter and his feelings pre and post-birth towards his wife, Rouba. At the end, he told the assembled to leave and phone their mum and tell her they love her. He told his story on 3AW last weekend.
The others remain in-house.
“I’m hesitant to tell you about what was said, it’s not my place,’’ Riewoldt said.
“I experienced the death of a young person who should be living and breathing today. Because Roo and I are so public and live our lives in the public eye, it was going to get out. It’s amazing some of the stories you hear and they’re not around death or anything like that, but it’s amazing the stories you’re hearing. These people haven’t had the opportunity to express their stories. Plenty of people have stuff bottled up inside. It was amazing how many stories were linked in together. That creates a connection.’’
Several times, Riewoldt said, it seemed the whole room of people were crying.
“It was pretty emotive stuff. Trent, Alex and myself are very proud with the way they were able to express themselves, but also the adult dealings in terms of taking on other people’s stories. It didn’t change my life, but it gave a real different perspective on life and footy, gave me greater connection with the players, the younger players. It was just another layer.’’
In many ways, it was the formation of the growing up of a Richmond team — and club — which, as the season extended, matured into a Grand Final team.
The doubters — and there’s always doubters about the Tigers — are silenced.
The doubters — and there were always doubters about Riewoldt — are long silenced.
Riewoldt is now 28. Where once he wanted to be the best player, he now thrives on being the best teammate. Where once he was accused of being selfish, he probably now is the most selfless player in the team.
The grown up Jack coincides with — but is not the reason for — him joining the AFL360 team at the start of the 2016 season.
Former AFL360 panellist Bob Murphy helped choose Riewoldt as his replacement because he believed Riewoldt’s true character wasn’t being exposed or explored on other media outlets as it should’ve been.
“I certainly would agree 360 has changed a lot of people’s perceptions about me,’’ Riewoldt said.
“I didn’t beat myself down, but I used to get affected by what people would think about me, I would find it hard to comprehend how people could judge me as a person from the two hours of football they see on the weekend. People judge personalities on how they perform on the footy field.”
The loss of Maddie, the natural maturing and being added to the Tigers’ leadership group this year have all played their role.
“Part of being human is growing up at certain stages,’’ he said.
Still, he’ll forever be emotional.
He burst into tears at the sound of the siren in the preliminary final, overcome by the achievement, joining former teammate Brett Deledio, who was also in tears, and even when being interviewed by Matthew Richardson.
“I spent six years with Richo and I know what it means to him and his family and deep down you want every person to be a part of it,’’ he said.
“Funnily enough the sense of achievement after winning the qualifying final was a greater sense of relief than winning last week.’’
Afterwards in the rooms, Riewoldt sought sanctuary in the changerooms as the congregation of players and families celebrated outside.
In his gear sans his boots, he says he had waves of emotions.
“In reflection I felt like there’s still a big hole there which is a void which could be filled this weekend.
“I was thinking about what had happened, what it meant, thinking about Lids, the week ahead, the two senior Grand Finals with Clarence as a young fella, reflecting on all those things.’’
He was beaten badly by Greater Western Sydney’s Phil Davis on the night, a situation he would’ve previously beaten himself up about.
“I was filthy about how I played because my role is not to let my man beat me,’’ he said. “And I reflected on that and just thought about what I could do differently this week.’’
Herald Sun columnist Matthew Lloyd last week wrote about the role Riewoldt has played this season, basically as the sole key forward with a bunch a kids around him.
He is a presenter and contester and where once he wanted to take the mark of the year every week, his performance is valued by how much he competes. Such as jumping for marks in two-on-one situations and bringing the ball to ground. In the first 30 seconds last week, he contested against two opponents, the ball squirted off the pack to Dustin Martin and the goal was kicked by Kane Lambert.
The week before, against Geelong, he competed Lachie Henderson and Zac Smith, and the spillage was collected by Cotchin who kicked an incredible goal.
“I don’t kick a lot of goals, I’m pretty consistent kicking two or three a week, but I feel I’ve a had a bigger impact on the scoreboard and on the team,’’ he said.
His relationship with his forwards, he says, is like that of a big brother.
Every week, three times a week, he and Jason Castagna and Dan Butler have goalkicking practice, with assistant coach Andrew McQualter standing the mark. “That’s really important to me,’’ he said. “I feel like a bit of an old fart sometimes. I’m 28 and I feel like an old fart.’’
On Monday, he took Dan Rioli to buy a suit for the Brownlow Medal. “I’ve got an extremely high regard for Daniel on and off the field, he’s pretty inspiring.”
His week has been kind of normal. Monday was the Brownlow, Tuesday was AFL360 and catching up on two episodes of Australian Survivor. Wednesday was golf and then dinner with cousin Nick. Thursday was the main training session. But Friday was amazing — the captain’s run in front of 10,000 fans and the parade in front of more than 100,000. It was mind-boggling.
His phone, however, is in meltdown. In this 40-minute conversation, he received 15 text messages from family, friends, the King Island Bakery run by the Hamer family and a fruiterer mate who has painted his shop yellow and black.
He’s revelling in the wellwishers and when watching the preliminary final again, was wowed by the scenes of grown men and women crying in the grandstands.
It’s taken its time forming, but the realisation is in stone inside Riewoldt that footy is about people.
“I have a huge love for the Tigers,’’ he said.
“Sometimes I think I love the Tigers more than anyone else. But there’s people out there who love them as much as me. I just get to play for them.
“I used to think the fans don’t get it because they haven’t played. You put in blood, sweat and tears through pre-season, you put your body on the line in games, I do it for absolute love and loyalty to the club. The realisation point comes when you say, people don’t get the chance to do this, but they love it as much as we love it.
“I’m crystal balling here, but I can’t imagine what it would be like if we won the flag.’’
If yes, trust and connection would be absolute.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-opens-up-on-how-the-tigers-came-together-as-a-group-the-loss-of-his-cousin-maddie-and-his-grand-final-excitement/news-story/da990de194e82d81fa0ecad72a6ed76f
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Jack's been good but he's due for a big game on the scoreboard. No better time than today.
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Agree big game player will be revved up.
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his speccies were sensational today
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Jack Riewoldt is resilient
A case of the Grand Final yips looked on the cards for the Tigers key forward, when he kicked three consecutive behinds after the Crows booted the first two goals of the game. But instead of dropping his head, Riewoldt got himself back into the contest. He laid tackles, chased everything within sight, applied great pressure in the attacking 50 and hauled in a couple of clutch contested marks. No one deserved to kick a huge fourth-quarter goal more than jumping Jack, who left his mark on this premiership triumph.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-30/ten-things-we-learned-2017-grand-final-adelaide-v-richmond
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Jack, Trent and Rance all the leaders stood up in Grand Final-the one that counts.
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From the draft to the cup: Jack Riewoldt
In a special series leading up to the 2017 AFL national draft, richmondfc.com.au takes a look back at the Tigers’ construction of their drought-breaking premiership team this year via the competition’s main talent acquisition pathway throughout the past decade. Today, we focus on Richmond’s recruitment of Jack Riewoldt.
Entering the 2006 national draft, Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson was strong in his opinion of who he wanted to select with the Club’s first pick (No. 13 overall).
Jackson had closely monitored talented Tasmanian teenage forward Jack Riewoldt’s progress representing his state at the under-18 national championships during the ’06 season, playing for the Tassie Devils in the VFL competition, as well as at senior TSL level with Clarence, and he was really impressed by the quality of football he had produced.
It was a delighted, and relieved, Jackson, who spoke about Riewoldt in the wake of his drafting by the Tigers.
Read full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-11-14/from-the-draft-to-the-cup-jack-riewoldt
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Jack only needs 12 goals to enter the top 5 all-time Tiger goalkickers.
Jack Titus 970
Matthew Richardson 800
Kevin Bartlett 778
Michael Roach 607
Dick Harris 548
Jack Riewoldt 537*
He also is just 15 goals away from reaching the 300-goal milestone at Richmond’s MCG home ground.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-02-01/jack-jumps-up-on-goal-list
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Will probably finish his career fourth on that list
Not a bad effort for a player half the experts on here had written off a few years ago
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Will probably finish his career fourth on that list
Not a bad effort for a player half the experts on here had written off a few years ago
I reckon we'll get 5 more years out of Jack - injuries permitting.
That's at least another 250 goals :shh
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Jack Riewoldt banned by his wife from singing The Killers’ Mr Brightside
Herald Sun
March 6, 2018
JACK Riewoldt has been banned from belting out the song that has become synonymous with Richmond’s Grand Final victory.
No, not ‘We’re From Tigerland’ — The Killers’ Mr Brightside.
Riewoldt famously joined the Las Vegas rockers on stage after the Tigers’ drought-breaking premiership, grabbing a mic and singing along with frontman Brandon Flowers.
So ensued a summer of the song being played on repeat at club celebrations, parties and weddings.
And his wife Carly, who he wed mere weeks after the Grand Final, has drawn a line.
“I’ve been banned from singing it,” he laughed.
“My wife has banned me from singing that.”
It hasn’t stopped him from engaging in a bit of car-aeoke, though.
“A couple of times — don’t worry,” he said.
“Windows up, though, so I’m not getting caught out.”
When Damien Hardwick was asked about Riewoldt’s performance on stage he admitted he’d not previously been a fan of The Killers.
Now? It brings back terrific memories.
“The Killers were not one of my faves, but now when I hear that song it’s automatically the first thing I think about, is Jack on that stage,” He told Fox Footy.
“I remember I snuck up, my phone was in my jacket pocket upstairs in the coaches box and I snuck up there with the old man and had a beer and we were sitting there talking for probably 10-12 minutes and knew the concert was going on but didn’t really pay much attention to it.
“Then I look and thought, who’s that guy? Not the best looking singer I’ve seen,
“Geez that’s Jack!
“All of a sudden I saw Jack Riewoldt on screen with The Killers. Memorable moment, something I’ll never forget.”
So what is Richmond do repeat their glorious season? What will the next song choice be?
“I don’t know. He’s probably a bit of a Proclaimers guy I reckon, the 500 Miles type thing.”
Riewoldt returned to the MCG today in his role as a Macca’s Kick 2 Kick ambassador, and said being back on the turf was an “eerie feeling”.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-banned-by-his-wife-from-singing-the-killers-mr-brightside/news-story/6ff335851fe40d5f16776f2fb32b63fd
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Jack not only kicked 4 goals last night but he showed why he is now in the leadership group. He was the one who sparked the comeback from 5 goals down early on.
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His work rate was really impressive particularly his chasing. Was consistent throughout the game.
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Star :gotigers
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Don't get me wrong, I love Jack, he's a superstar but when he lines up for goal and turns to kick around the corner, DRIVES ME stuffing INSANE.
Jack needs to start kicking the ball as all the best players have every done.
What's the best kick in our awesome sport, of course the drop punt.
From tight on the boundary, yeah of course fair enough, but stuff me, from 60 degrees out, ya gotta be shittin me.
I've even seen him do it from 30 metres out directly in front.
This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop punt.
C'mon Jack get back to kicking great goals, PROPERLY!
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
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Jack only needs 12 goals to enter the top 5 all-time Tiger goalkickers.
Jack Titus 970
Matthew Richardson 800
Kevin Bartlett 778
Michael Roach 607
Dick Harris 548
Jack Riewoldt 537*
He also is just 15 goals away from reaching the 300-goal milestone at Richmond’s MCG home ground.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-02-01/jack-jumps-up-on-goal-list
On a side note, Titus might have been some sort of player.
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
3rd qrt Jack was about 25 metres out on a slight angle and goes around the corner and misses and your ok with this?
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
3rd qrt Jack was about 25 metres out on a slight angle and goes around the corner and misses and your ok with this?
So what, I could pull out many examples of where he has a set shot and misses.
How do you know with your example whether he would have kicked that from a set shot, I will tell you, you don’t.
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
3rd qrt Jack was about 25 metres out on a slight angle and goes around the corner and misses and your ok with this?
So what, I could pull out many examples of where he has a set shot and misses.
How do you know with your example whether he would have kicked that from a set shot, I will tell you, you don’t.
He has done this from a similar angle 41 times throughout his AFL career. His success rate with the drop punt is 77%, the snap %78. :shh
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
3rd qrt Jack was about 25 metres out on a slight angle and goes around the corner and misses and your ok with this?
So what, I could pull out many examples of where he has a set shot and misses.
How do you know with your example whether he would have kicked that from a set shot, I will tell you, you don’t.
He has done this from a similar angle 41 times throughout his AFL career. His success rate with the drop punt is 77%, the snap %78. :shh
...and that's another snap right there.... :clapping
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This has gotta stop, he misses more this way of rubbish kicking than a regulation drop
No he doesn’t
3rd qrt Jack was about 25 metres out on a slight angle and goes around the corner and misses and your ok with this?
So what, I could pull out many examples of where he has a set shot and misses.
How do you know with your example whether he would have kicked that from a set shot, I will tell you, you don’t.
He has done this from a similar angle 41 times throughout his AFL career. His success rate with the drop punt is 77%, the snap %78. :shh
...and that's another snap right there.... :clapping
You seem to miss understand, I'm not putting him down, he's in my top 10 of all time fav Tiger players,
From a given position on the ground he'll try a set shot and miss, try it from the same position around the body and get a goal.
The next time from a different position on the ground he'll come around the body miss, then from that same position grab a set shot goal.
My point, he seems to be unsure of what his best is. If he could find one way and I don't give a stuff which way he does it, he could kick another 200 goals over the next three years (if he can play that long).
I reckon he could be better, a lot better kick at goal than what he is right now.
77 and 78 % from 25 metres out is nothing to brag about, and hmmmm you didn't seem to show how many behinds, snap :snidegrin :) ( kidding lol)
From that far out on such a small angle that percentage should be a poo load higher. Wonder what the percentage would be if only one style of kicking was used, I imagine it would certainly be higher.
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I'd like to think he will be around for a few more years, but regardless of who we develop or get to replace him, we are sure going to miss him.
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I'd like to think he will be around for a few more years, but regardless of who we develop or get to replace him, we are sure going to miss him.
I'm hoping for at least another 4 years but if he keeps flying high, something may break sooner rather than later.
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25 metres out, 45 degree angle and tries a banana. stuff me Jack just learn to kick the ball properly, DROP PUNT :banghead
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Co-vice-captain Riewoldt had 13 disposals, including seven score involvements, took five marks and kicked four goals, including one late in the game from a well-judged grab that effectively sealed Richmond’s win.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-04-09/top-tiger-trio-pave-victory-path
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Jack Riewoldt
His efforts inside 50 for Richmond were outstanding. He fought and scrapped to win as many contests as possible. The Coleman medallist was rewarded with two goals during the second quarter and he also played a key part in another for Jason Castagna. Riewoldt also kicked one goal during the third term and two during the final quarter. His ability to compete set him apart for the Tigers.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles/who-impressed-and-who-didnt-in-west-coasts-statement-win-over-richmond-ng-b88841570z
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Had a great game. Was excellent with his pressure and tackling.
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Injured?
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Saying on BF that he was coughing up blood, seems to relate to a bump he laid on Duggan, doesn't sound too good and you would think at least one week's rest is on the cards.
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Riewoldt took a team-high seven marks (five of them inside-50), had a team-high nine score involvements, and kicked a team-high five goals.
It was the 24th time in Riewoldt’s 234-game senior league career with Richmond that he’s scored five goals or more in a match. And it also was his best goal return since scoring six against Melbourne on Anzac Day Eve last year.
After nine rounds of the 2018 season, Riewoldt is in third place on the competition’s goalkicking table with 24 goals.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-05-21/jacks-a-ripper
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Really good game. Deserves a lot of credit.
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Injured?
Saying on BF that he was coughing up blood, seems to relate to a bump he laid on Duggan, doesn't sound too good and you would think at least one week's rest is on the cards.
Jack Riewoldt given medical clearance to fly home after health scare
By Sam McClure
The Age
21 May 2018
Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt had to be given medical clearance to fly home from Perth on Sunday night after coming off second best in a bump that resulted in him coughing up blood.
The Age understands that the captain of the Virgin flight from Perth to Melbourne was having detailed conversations with Richmond club doctor Greg Hickey before allowing Riewoldt to fly.
Riewoldt came off second best after a late bump on Eagles defender Liam Duggan in the final minute of the third quarter.
Riewoldt had a down-the-ground free kick paid against him for the bump.
It's understood the Tigers star was coughing up blood when the two teams came in for their three-quarter-time huddles.
Richmond made Riewoldt's injury clear to Virgin staff before boarding the flight and further conversations were had once the players had actually boarded, with the plane's captain and Hickey discussing Riewoldt's condition in the aisle.
Riewoldt, who sat in business class, was eventually cleared to fly home with the rest of the team.
The injury puts Riewoldt in some doubt to play in Saturday's game against St Kilda at the MCG.
Richmond have been contacted for comment.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/riewoldt-had-to-be-medically-cleared-to-fly-home-after-coughing-blood-20180521-p4zgjh.html
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Jack expected to face Saints despite bump worry
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
May 21, 2018 4:30PM
RICHMOND expects Jack Riewoldt to face St Kilda on Saturday despite reports he was coughing up blood during the Tigers' 47-point loss to West Coast.
Riewoldt was reportedly left battered by a heavy bump by Liam Duggan in the dying stages of the third quarter of Sunday's loss, and coughed up blood as a result during the three-quarter time break.
Riewoldt played out the game and kicked two of his five goals in the fourth term.
Fairfax Media reported on Monday the forward needed medical clearance to fly home after the incident, which included the club's doctor speaking to the Virgin captain responsible for transporting the team back to Melbourne.
The Tigers confirmed to AFL.com.au later on Monday that Riewoldt "got home perfectly well" and wasn't in any doubt to face the Saints on Saturday at the MCG.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-21/jack-expected-to-face-saints-despite-bump-worry
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Why did the doc have to speak to the Virgin captain? What was he going to do? Take it slowly over the bumps?
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Why did the doc have to speak to the Virgin captain? What was he going to do? Take it slowly over the bumps?
Will try to find out what that was about but most probably inaccurate reporting.
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Why did the doc have to speak to the Virgin captain?
Why was Nathan Fyfe involved at all?
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Was also going to ask how the reporter knew the captain was a Virgin?
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Why did the doc have to speak to the Virgin captain?
Why was Nathan Fyfe involved at all?
:lol
:shh
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‘I was sinking in my seat thinking, oh, please don’t’: Why Jack Riewoldt nearly stayed in Perth
May 23, 2018
Josh Gabelich
FOX SPORTS
Jack Riewoldt just wanted to get out of Perth on Sunday. Richmond had been pumped at Optus Stadium and to make matters worse, the dual Coleman medallist copped a big bump from West Coast young gun Liam Duggan just before three-quarter time.
As the Eagles coasted away to a 47-point victory, establishing themselves as the real deal in the process, Riewoldt was left spitting out blood for the last quarter.
So when Richmond doctor Greg Hickey and Virgin flight staff held up the Tigers’ flight home by discussing whether or not Riewoldt could fly home, the premiership hero sunk lower and lower into his seat, which was, naturally, right at the front of the plane.
“I was sitting on the plane and I could hear the conversation happening behind me between the Virgin staff and our doctor,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360 on Tuesday night.
“I was sinking in my seat and just thinking, ‘oh, please don’t (prevent me from flying), all I want to do is get home — we lost this game of footy and all I want to do is go home to my own bed’.
“It all got cleared. People get iffy about the lungs and getting on planes. They were just doing their due diligence which is obviously their job. They backed our medical advice in and here I am today.
“I was already upgraded, I couldn’t have gone any further otherwise I would have been driving the thing. I paid for it too out of me own pocket.”
After overcoming the flight scare, Riewoldt is fine to play golf on Wednesday and fine to face St Kilda at the MCG on Saturday.
“I’m good as gold. I’ll play golf tomorrow, train on Thursday and play Saturday,” Riewoldt said
“I think what’s happened is with the compression of the hip, I’ve split one of the blood vessels either in my throat or in my lung and it is just a case of that.”
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It all happened when young West Coast midfielder Liam Duggan collected Riewoldt with an old fashioned shirt front, before the 29-year-old slotted two last term goals to finish with five for the day.
“I tried to put a bit of physical pressure on Liam Duggan and he got me straight down the middle of the chest,” he said.
“I think it might have been his shoulder; he just sort of flushed me in a bad spot and copped one. I had a mouthful of blood and spat it out.
“I was never in pain it was for anyone who has had a chiropractic adjustment it was like that. For the next half an hour I was spitting up a bit of blood.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/i-was-sinking-in-my-seat-thinking-oh-please-dont-how-jack-riewoldt-nearly-stayed-in-perth/news-story/ba778e9ac78a9683f24a7d2783b40393
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Secret behind Jack Riewoldt’s concussion revealed
By SEN
1 June 2018
Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch has revealed forward Jack Riewoldt failed his first concussion test earlier this week because he didn’t read the instructions correctly.
Riewoldt has since been declared fit for Saturday’s Dreamtime clash with Essendon, but Leppitsch has explained the story behind the 29-year-old passing the concussion protocols.
“He (Riewoldt) is fine,” he told SEN Mornings.
“There is a little secret with that because Jack actually failed his first concussion test, but that’s because he didn’t read the instructions properly.
“In classic Jack fashion, trying to race through it, he failed the first one.
“He didn’t want anyone to know, so I’m lifting the lid on that one.”
Leppitsch also said defender Bachar Houli is expected to return from his groin injury after the bye.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/01/secret-behind-riewoldt's-concussion-revealed/
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Was the concussion test how to top up a Myki?
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To further underline Riewoldt’s value to the Tigers, even when he doesn’t have the ball in his possession, he is currently ranked No. 1 among Richmond players, and No. 4 competition-wide, for the most tackles inside 50.
“Goals are one thing you can measure – they’re an outcome of how we play. A lot of our goals are created through Jack, through his contest work,” Hardwick said.
“His ability to create contest against one and two opponents, get the ball to ground, that brings the little guys into play, you know, it doesn’t get any plaudits from the media or the crowd, really, but within our four walls he’s a marvellous player.
“He’s been a marvellous player for a long time . . .
“I look at what he achieved last year, both on and off the field – his leadership and his ability to play the game.
“This year, he’s had an even better year, from my point of view . . .
“He’s certainly a big part of the reason why we’re turning nine (wins) and two (losses) at the halfway mark.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-06/in-praise-of-jack
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From selfish to the ‘most selfless player in the competition’: Stars extraordinary transformation
June 19, 2018
Josh Gabelich
FOX SPORTS
NOT many players have had their body language forensically examined like Richmond premiership hero Jack Riewoldt.
The once petulant forward has his attitude scrutinised for a long time, but not anymore.
Sydney premiership coach Paul Roos believes the dual Coleman medallist’s evolution from selfish to the most selfless player in the game is a key reason behind Richmond’s rise in the past 12 months.
“His transformation has been extraordinary,” Roos said on Fox Footy’s On the Coach on Monday night.
“He’s gone from being a guy that we didn’t question his ability but the body language, to the most selfless player in the competition.
“There is no question; he is the most selfless player in the competition.”
While he might not kick as many goals as he once did, he doesn’t have to.
By sacrificing his own game for the mosquito fleet — Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli — Riewoldt has helped mould the Tigers into a far more damaging and less predictable attack.
“I love that, because he would have been accused from some people as being selfish — to the most selfless. That is unbelievable,” Brisbane triple premiership great Jonathan Brown added.
Brown said Riewoldt’s selflessness is infectious, spreading from one teammate to another to make Richmond a better team.
“When one of your stars, and a genuine star in the game who is known for kicking big goals, sacrifices part of his game to do these little things, you get the lesser lights all jumping on board and it just spreads throughout the team,” Brown said.
Riewoldt did the little things — he blocked, he created space, he crashed packs and brought the ball to ground — time and time again on Sunday, as well as chipping in with two goals.
The Tasmanian has now kicked 30.14 for the year, just five goals less than North Melbourne’s Coleman Medal leader Ben Brown.
And with Richmond looking almost unbeatable at the MCG, Riewoldt could add a second premiership medallion to his two Coleman’s by the end of September.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/from-selfish-to-the-most-selfless-player-in-the-competition-stars-extraordinary-transformation/news-story/594cff14330fe8bf0324ca31c183d68b
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Star Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt will tonight be inducted into the Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame at a gala function at Hobart’s Wrest Point Ca-sino.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-23/riewoldts-top-tassie-honour
:clapping
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Star Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt will tonight be inducted into the Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame at a gala function at Hobart’s Wrest Point Ca-sino.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-23/riewoldts-top-tassie-honour
:clapping
He should also be made captain of the redhead team of the century and hall of fame.
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Congratulations to @JackRiewoldt08 on being inducted into the Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame last night 🌟 📸 @solsticedigital
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1010690060297986048
🎥 Watch @JackRiewoldt08's speech upon being inducted into the Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame last night -
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-06-24/tasmanian-football-hall-of-fame-riewoldts-speech
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23 disposals.
13 contested possessions.
16 marks.
7 contested marks.
3 goals.
B.O.G. :bow
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Not far off the best game I have ever seen from him. Amazing
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Marking everything. Clear BOG for me
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Not far off the best game I have ever seen from him. Amazing
This
Incredible
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Not far off the best game I have ever seen from him. Amazing
This
Incredible
x2
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Jumping Jack comes to play
The focus might have been on Buddy, but a lot of the action was happening at the other end of the field as well. It looked like it was going to be Jack Riewoldt's night when the Richmond star had nine disposals, four marks, one goal and one goal assist at quarter time. He didn't disappoint after that, either. Clearly the best on the ground, Riewoldt shone throughout the night – with his aerial marking and his long-range accuracy clear highlights. Providing a contest every time the ball was kicked forward, Riewoldt continued to swing the momentum of the game in Richmond's favour throughout the night. He finished with three goals from 23 disposals and 16 marks – eight of which were inside 50 and seven of which were contested.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-28/five-talking-points-richmond-v-sydney
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He was unbelievable last night.
He’s a tiger great already. And I don’t say that lightly.
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All Australian player this year in my book.
And I recon if most coaches were picking a team to actually play a game of AFL footy, he would be in it.
Probably the most football smart player I have ever watched.
He can actually do it all.
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I wonder what Ox thinks?
Oh, that's right - he's disappeared now we're winning
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I think he is leading our B+F.
He should be.
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I wonder what Ox thinks?
Not much
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I wonder if Ox thinks?
Not at all
EFA
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I wonder if Ox thinks?
Not at all
EFA
:lol :bow
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Champion.
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Most complete game
Actually best game I've seen him play and I've seen a alot of them :clapping
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pretty funny that these fruitloops on channel 7 would even dare compare hawkins to Jack
Give me a break Ling
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Most complete game
Actually best game I've seen him play and I've seen a alot of them :clapping
Close to it but I reckon the first 10 goal haul vs West Coast comes close.
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not for me its not
this game was against quality opposition and it meant more.
Eagles at the g in winter vrs a 1 v 2 game. Last night he did everything and more.
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not for me its not
this game was against quality opposition and it meant more.
Eagles at the g in winter vrs a 1 v 2 game. Last night he did everything and more.
I don’t care if I am wrong to be honest, it’s good we can compare bodies of work. I agree Jack was brilliant last night.
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He was great last night but his best games are when he brings ball to ground, takes marks and uses deft touches that bring his teammates into the game.
His feel for what he needs to do from one game to the next is sublime,
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he was massive on anzac day eve last year. he was marking everything in the wet and kicked 5 from memory? Against a 2nd on the ladder Sydney is pretty special though and will probably go down as one of his greatest performances
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Still maintain his got the smartest football brain in the afl by a mile just a pure natural footballer.
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not for me its not
this game was against quality opposition and it meant more.
Eagles at the g in winter vrs a 1 v 2 game. Last night he did everything and more.
I don’t care if I am wrong to be honest, it’s good we can compare bodies of work. I agree Jack was brilliant last night.
yeah splitting hairs :thumbsup. He is a gun thats all i know
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Imagine if we had 2 of him on Thursday? CHF Jack taking those huge marks 50-80m out, wheeling & kicking to FF Jack inside 50 for more big clunks <3
Did make me excited at the prospect of he & Lynch in the same side.
Best marking performance I have seen since Richo at his best
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Jack Riewoldt building Hall of Fame case says Whateley
By Mark Koelmeyer
SEN
30 June 2018
Gerard Whateley believes Richmond star forward Jack Riewoldt is building a Hall of Fame resume.
Riewoldt has been a star of the competition for a number of years and was lauded for the selfless role he played as Richmond broke a 37-year premiership drought last season.
The two-time Coleman Medallist had a match-winning performance against Sydney last night, racking up 23 disposals, taking a colossal 16 marks and booting three goals, and Whateley believes if he can win another premiership, he is on track to make a case for the Hall of Fame.
“He had the perception that he was a clown I reckon,” said Whateley on SEN's The Pre-Game Show.
“Perhaps he allowed that to happen to him as well, but he’s building a Hall of Fame CV.
“When you start to stack it up, if he adds another premiership to that, by the time he’s finished he’ll be regarded as one of the best of the era.
“His transformation to the selfless nature in which he plays, having been the show off full-forward for a long time, but last night when it was required, only few can do that.”
SEN Breakfast host Garry Lyon echoed Whateley’s sentiments, describing Riewoldt’s performance last night as a game ‘for the ages’.
“As commentators, we were down on Jack because that used to be the way he went about it,” said Lyon.
“It was more about me, how come I’m not getting frees, it was berating, it was running away from news crews, all that sort of stuff.
“And last night was a game for the ages.
“He’s had a fantastic three or four years.
“You can appreciate that, from footy players to non footy players, forwards, backs, defenders, that was one for the ages.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/29/jack-riewoldt-building-hall-of-fame-case-says-whateley/
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Selfless Riewoldt still a star
Jack Riewoldt's recast role inside Richmond's forward line over recent seasons has meant he has often sacrificed his own game. At times, he has roamed up the ground to provide a linking target, while, as the sole tall in attack, he can always be relied on to create a marking contest – and crumbs for hungry smalls such as Dan Butler, Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli and Jack Higgins. But under Thursday night's bright spotlight the dual Coleman medallist showed he can still play the match-winner when required. Manned for most of the game by hard-checking Swan Heath Grundy, Riewoldt took a career-high 16 marks – his previous best was 14 in round five, 2009, against North Melbourne – while he equalled his best tally of contested marks (seven). He finished with 23 possessions, just one shy of his best tally, and kicked 3.2. Two of his goals game from outside 50m, one of those after a towering speccy that showed he still has plenty of spring left in his 29-year-old legs. - Nick Bowen
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-01/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-15
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Jack Riewoldt: Is this the play of the season?
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-07-06/round-16-jack-snaps-a-beauty
A week after kicking three goals and taking 16 marks against Sydney in a heroic performance, fan favourite Jack Riewoldt nearly put together contenders for both goal and mark of the year in the one amazing second-quarter play. First, he planted his knees on Kyle Hartigan's shoulders to attempt a soaring grab but wasn't able to hold onto the ball as he came to ground. It didn't matter, as he went on to rove his own crumb, wheel around, and slot a ridiculous goal. It saw club CEO Brendon Gale look on in astonishment while president Peggy O'Neal enthusiastically applauded. It also prompted game great Chris Judd to tell Triple M he believed Riewoldt was in the "best form of his career", especially when it came to his marking prowess.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-06/five-talking-points-richmond-v-adelaide
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One of the clever/smartest footballers I’ve ever seen. Just reads the game so well anticipates better than most. His deft touches to advantage or bumps, blocks, chip kicks off the ground, taps or punches forward have always been part of his repertoire.
Jack had been doing all those things for years but the Griffiths, Nahas, Miller types had no idea in understanding the work he was doing to help them, so in those days he had to just do it on his own because he was working with dumb arses that had no clue. :rollin
But let’s not forget that Jack also had to work with the dumbest player ever to put on boots, Tyron “Sideshow Bob” Vickery, the player that rewrote the book in finding new ways to ruin even the easiest of goal assists. :banghead :rollin :lol
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From Robbo's 'likes' column today:
THE INSPIRATION
Maddie’s Match is ensconced on the football calendar and much of it has to do with Jack and Nick Riewoldt, cousins who work tirelessly to raise money for Maddie Riewoldt’s Vision. Jack and Nick are the face of the charity and it’s a role Jack takes with great pride. The warmth of his relationship with young Elliot Vanderland this week, on AFL360 and on Channel 7 on Friday night, says plenty about Jack.
He never left Elliott’s side on Tuesday night on AFL 360 and after Friday’s game had a kick-to-kick with Elliot before carrying him from the ground. He’s a star Jack, but he made a young fella with challenges the star on the night.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-18/news-story/c788fcb900e75f77f5c0c73b3d8b13fa
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Ralphy mentioned that Jack was in discussion to extend his contract for 2 years which would keep him tied to the club until the end of 2021.
He also said Rance was extended for $800k per year
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Ralphy mentioned that Jack was in discussion to extend his contract for 2 years which would keep him tied to the club until the end of 2021.
He also said Rance was extended for $800k per year
Gee Rance is unders then if the Eagles are paying McGovern $1 million per season.
I'd take Rance any day.
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Star Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt has passed the 40-goal mark in a season for the ninth consecutive year, and entered an exclusive league football goalkicking club as a result.
He joins goalkicking greats in Richmond’s Jack Titus (14 in-a-row), Collingwood’s Gordon Coventry (13 in-a-row), Sydney’s Lance Franklin (12 in-a-row), Hawthorn’s Jason Dunstall (11 in-a-row), Carlton’s Stephen Kernahan (11 in-a-row), Geelong and North Melbourne’s Doug Wade (10 in-a-row) and Essendon’s Matthew Lloyd (nine in-a-row) as the only players in AFL/VFL history to top 40 goals in nine or more successive seasons.
Riewoldt also moved into 35th place on the competition’s all-time goalkicking list, past Simon Beasley and Simon Madden, with his four goals against the Saints in Round 18.
He has kicked a total of 578 goals in 242 games.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-23/jack-on-an-impressive-goal-roll
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Here's the Jon Ralph article HRT posted about:
Tigers begin effort to re-sign Jack Riewoldt beyond 2019
JON RALPH,
Herald Sun
July 24, 2018
RICHMOND has started contract talks with star Jack Riewoldt after locking away fellow bookend Alex Rance.
Riewoldt comes out of contract at the end of 2019 but is only 29 and at the peak of his powers.
The Herald Sun understands talks are progressing well for a deal that will lock him in past his current deal.
The Tigers are in the hunt for Gold Coast free agent Tom Lynch but do not take for granted Riewoldt’s significant role at Punt Rd.
He has kicked 578 goals from 242 AFL games and been lauded for his selfless nature in a side that often contains a single tall.
Remarkably, he has averaged 22 games over the past decade and played at least 20 games in every year since 2009.
It means Richmond will have little hesitation locking him away past his 13th season.
Tom Lynch and Riewoldt are both born on October 31, the 25-year-old Gold Coast captain four years younger than the dual Coleman Medallist.
Riewoldt said recently that Rance had sacrificed to stay at the Tigers, thrilled with the commitment of his fellow vice-captain.
“The club is very proud of him signing on. It gets to the point in your career where you get closer to 30 and you have to take a few sacrifices for the betterment of the football club,’’ he said.
“Alex has been great with that and hopefully we can have a few more (signings) in the new few weeks.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tigers-begin-effort-to-resign-jack-riewoldt-beyond-2019/news-story/0f370dfd23281dbe028b47b12ced5f8b
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Jack's manager Liam Pickering on SEN has confirmed Jack is "very, very close" to signing a new deal :thumbsup.
Pickering provides Riewoldt contract update
By SEN
24 July 2018
Jack Riewoldt’s manager has confirmed negotiations on a new Richmond deal are close to being finalised.
Riewoldt is in career best form for the reigning premiers, and is set to be rewarded with a new Tigers deal.
SEN Breakfast with Garry Lyon and Tim Watson can be heard Monday-Friday 6-9am, and you can subscribe to the podcast here.
“We are working with the club at the moment on trying to finalise Jack,” Pickering told SEN Breakfast.
“(He is contracted) until the end of next year, yeah (we would lock him up for another three years).
“I know exactly what he is worth, I won’t talk about it though.
“We are very very close.
“The reality is, in a premiership team, you can’t have everyone getting 1.2 million.
“If he was to leave and go elsewhere, which he is not, a club would be mad not to throw a bucket of money at him.
“They’ve already re-signed Alex Rance, Jack, Trent Cotchin is not far away, Dustin Martin is obviously done.
“All those guys would be taking a little bit unders than what they’re considered on the open market.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/23/pickering-provides-riewoldt-contract-update/
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A Tiger for Life! :bow :clapping
Jack is arguably a rare AFL star who is closest to being a supporter as well. You've got to love his passion and love for the Tigers. Deserves all the rewards and success he has and will achieve.
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Was a Swans supporter.... :shh
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Was a Swans supporter.... :shh
His team Clarence wears Sydney colours, used to be Maroon with a white V
His dad Chris (Cabbage) once signed a form 4 for the Aints but never came across
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A Tiger for Life! :bow :clapping
Jack is arguably a rare AFL star who is closest to being a supporter as well. You've got to love his passion and love for the Tigers. Deserves all the rewards and success he has and will achieve.
Reminds me of Richo, not just because of their comparable position. Loves the club, almost too much you could argue. Deserves all the accolades and success he gets and I'm glad the club rewarded him with success. Great thing is, he'll likely stay involved in the game after his playing career is finished. Hopefully a few more flags for the man for now :cheers.
One of the all time great Tigers I've ever seen.
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Was a Swans supporter.... :shh
So?
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:shh
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:lol
:shh :shh
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Jack is a fantastic guy and thankful he plays for us :clapping
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Jack is a fantastic guy and thankful he plays for us :clapping
Yep.
I don't care how good Lynch is, or anyone else for that matter, JR8 is irreplaceable.
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How can you not like this champion of our club? :clapping
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Sam McClure just reported on SEN that 2 year extension has been signed. Contracted until end of 2021 :clapping
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Sam McClure just reported on SEN that 2 year extension has been signed. Contracted until end of 2021 :clapping
confirmed
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-07-31/jr8-contract-extension
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:thumbsup
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:clapping
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Good on ya Jack.
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Good on ya Jack.
X2
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All Australian player this year in my book.
And I recon if most coaches were picking a team to actually play a game of AFL footy, he would be in it.
Probably the most football smart player I have ever watched.
He can actually do it all.
Brilliantly stated on all points, tremendous footballer.
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He is a ripper and on and off the ground :cheers
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His U18 highlights on the website just now make you wonder why he wasn't picked earlier??
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Signed for less..
Read between the lines slobbo, it’s Tiger Lynch time in 2019
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Anyone think jack is a chance for the b&f?
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Signed for less..
Read between the lines slobbo, it’s Tiger Lynch time in 2019
Yeah not necessarily.... :shh
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The backpage headline says it all :thumbsup.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Djdzn6ZU0AEf2gH.jpg)
And in Jack's own words :thumbsup
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjbRZ9AVAAEl0qT.jpg)
https://twitter.com/LozzzaC/status/1024236219473977344
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Whateley on SEN just said that Jack effectively signed a new 3 year contract (2019-2021) as Jack has agreed to play for less next year compared to what he was already contracted for in 2019.
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Jack stars with 4 goals:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-08-03/r20-riewoldt-stars-with-four
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What a champion! :bow :thumbsup
26 disposals ( 23k, 3h, 9 cp, 16 up)
14 marks
12 marks inside F50
2 tackles
2 inside 50s
1 assist
10 goals
6 behinds
Career high stats and now Coleman leader :clapping.
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What a champion! :bow :thumbsup
26 disposals ( 23k, 3h, 9 cp, 16 up)
14 marks
12 marks inside F50
2 tackles
2 inside 50s
1 assist
10 goals
6 behinds
Career high stats and now Coleman leader :clapping.
Yes he is
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Where is Ox when you need him?
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lmao studfin selfish sook pooman :shh
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please carry this form into the finals and deliver Jack!
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lmao studfin selfish sook pooman :shh
Jack or OX?
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still think we need a second tall to take the load of Jack!
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Riewoldt shoots into Coleman Medal lead
Jack Riewoldt has charged into Coleman Medal contention with his sensational 10-goal haul putting the Richmond spearhead at the top of the goal kicking table with 58 for the year. He was irrepressible from the start, booting 4.3 free in the first quarter to put the Tigers in the box seat early. He left it late to register his double-digit enabling last goal, snapping truly with only two seconds on the clock. If it wasn't for a few gettable misses – Riewoldt also booted six behinds – he could have finished with an even bigger bag.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-11/five-talking-points-gold-coast-v-richmond
Jack Riewoldt 58
Ben Brown 54*
Luke Breust 50
Lance Franklin 50*
Tom Hawkins 50
Jesse Hogan 46*
* play Sunday.
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lmao studfin selfish sook pooman :shh
Jack or OX?
A/ Ox
B/ Ox
C/Ox
D/ all of the above
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If only we had John Butcher
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If only we had John Butcher
Where is Tigermonk when you need him?
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please carry this form into the finals and deliver Jack!
He delivered last year in the finals and it wasn't because he was kicking bags of goals
Bit with Dimma on this we don't want him having to kick 10 for us to win
Give me his game(s) against the Cats, Pie or GWS in the prelim anyday over yesterday
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true, but he deserved a day out
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Bloody oath he did. What a freak
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We didnt need him to kick 10.. the boys were looking for him for half of them ! He has earnt a big day out and he got it.
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Not that Jack will care as another flag will matter far more but it looks like the Dogs' short backline will gift Ben Brown back the lead in the Coleman. He has 3 to half-time.
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Not that Jack will care as another flag will matter far more but it looks like the Dogs' short backline will gift Ben Brown back the lead in the Coleman. He has 3 to half-time.
Not to worry we play the dogs too.
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The Dogs dominating after half-time meant Brown only kicked one more to go level with Jack. Buddy only kicked 2 today as well.
Coleman medal race after Round 21
Jack Riewoldt 58
Ben Brown 58
Lance Franklin 52
Luke Breust 50
Tom Hawkins 50
Jesse Hogan 47
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Jack Riewoldt has been the one playing like the marquee man. It may have been against a 17th-placed side, but his dominant performance this week put his season on the map in a way it really should have been a while ago.
In 2018 not only is he averaging his most goals per game in six years, he’s also averaging his most inside 50s per game across the length of his entire career.
Just imagine what life will be like with Tom J Lynch drawing away one of the oppositon’s best defenders for him next year (presumably) and giving him even more space to work in. Equalisation, yippee.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/08/12/six-hot-takes-afl-round-21/
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Most scoring shots by a Tiger in 73 years.
Only behind Roach in terms of number of times a Tiger has kicked 10+ goals (Riewoldt now equal with Jack Titus).
Only one of two current players who have kicked 10+ in a game three times (Eagles' Josh Kennedy is the other; Buddy has only done it twice).
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-08-12/jack-jumps-into-elite-goalkicking-company
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Is this Jack’s best year?
Goals aside, his work to create goals is just as impressive.
True champion of the game.
Has to be a lock for the AA side imo.
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The Norf fans on BF were saltier than a Scott twins sweat when Jack kicked past Ben Clown :lol
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Yup cant see any logic behind him not being FF or CHF in the all-aus team now that he will likely finish top 3 in the coleman at the very least considering hes got them all covered in the other stats i.e. score involvements, marks, contested marks etc. plus hes team is top of the ladder.....
More interested to see where he finishes in the B&F, surely would be close to leading it at this point?
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The stats files: Who's in the box seat for the Coleman?
Brown's Kangaroos face Adelaide and St Kilda in the last two rounds, sides he has kicked just a combined 19 majors in 13 career matches against.
Riewoldt, on the other hand – fresh from a sizzling bag of 10 at Gold Coast's expense on Saturday – averages 2.3 goals in 31 clashes with Richmond's upcoming opponents, Essendon and the Western Bulldogs.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-14/the-stats-files-whos-in-the-box-seat-for-the-coleman#/
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Riewoldt is the best key forward in AFL: Wallace
By SEN
14 Aug 2018
Former Richmond coach Terry Wallace says Jack Riewoldt is the best key forward in the AFL.
The Tigers thumped the Gold Coast Suns by 74-points on the weekend, a victory which was driven by Riewoldt’s 10-goal performance.
Despite the incredible individual effort, Wallace believes it is Riewoldt’s team play that makes him so special.
“Jack Riewoldt,” Wallace told SEN’s KB and The Doc, when asked who he thinks is the best key forward in the league.
“He brings more other players into the contest than any other of the forwards.
“Ben Brown has had a great year, fantastic year, but more of his work is straight lead out at the ball, take possession of the ball.
“He is not orchestrating as many goals, it doesn’t mean he is not having a great season, but he is not orchestrating as many goals for others as what I think Riewoldt is.
“I don’t even think Buddy (Lance Franklin) has done that this year. He still has played some outstanding games but to me, it’s really Jack Riewoldt.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/13/riewoldt-is-the-best-key-forward-in-afl-wallace/
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He is having a career best season I feel and has become the ultimate team player. It would be fantastic to see Jack win another Coleman however I feel the next two matches there might be a push to be more team orientated from Dimma.
Meanwhile n0rf will do everything they can to help krusty pip Jack for the Coleman. :shh
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Meanwhile n0rf will do everything they can to help krusty pip Jack for the Coleman. :shh
Yep, watch them try to get their big doofus over the line.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/14ytbNcL4X2gVi/giphy.gif)
Jack might even be a shot at AA captain :shh
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Yup cant see any logic behind him not being FF or CHF in the all-aus team now that he will likely finish top 3 in the coleman at the very least considering hes got them all covered in the other stats i.e. score involvements, marks, contested marks etc. plus hes team is top of the ladder.....
More interested to see where he finishes in the B&F, surely would be close to leading it at this point?
Jack's now jumped to the lead in the all important and prestigious OER Tiger of the Year Award ;D :thumbsup.
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Yup cant see any logic behind him not being FF or CHF in the all-aus team now that he will likely finish top 3 in the coleman at the very least considering hes got them all covered in the other stats i.e. score involvements, marks, contested marks etc. plus hes team is top of the ladder.....
More interested to see where he finishes in the B&F, surely would be close to leading it at this point?
Jack's now jumped to the lead in the all important and prestigious OER Tiger of the Year Award ;D :thumbsup.
You forgot "Time Honored" in your descripton too.
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Duck eggs for slinky head tonight.... :clapping
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Duck eggs for slinky head tonight.... :clapping
3-4 goals for jack against the doggies should lock in the Coleman.
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Isn't Buddy doing his swag poo again too. He's up there now. Could be anyone of those 3 winning it.
We don't play for individual awards but I hope we feed Jack a little bit once we get the game under control next week
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Coleman Medal Race after Round 22
Jack Riewoldt 60 .... vs Dogs
Ben Brown 58 ..... vs Saints
Lance Franklin 57 ..... vs Hawks
Tom Hawkins 56 ...... vs Suns (remember Jack kicked 10 against them)
Luke Breust 52
Jesse Hogan 47
Jack Gunston 46
Tom McDonald 45
Josh Caddy 43
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Isn't Buddy doing his swag poo again too. He's up there now. Could be anyone of those 3 winning it.
We don't play for individual awards but I hope we feed Jack a little bit once we get the game under control next week
Can’t see him kicking 3 more goals against the hawks than jack kicks against the doggies. Think brown and Hawkins are the biggest threats.
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If Buddy wins it, he will be a legend.
If Brown wins it will be a pat on the back because his parents are related.
If Jack wins it will be an indictment on the state of the game and will be the worst 3x Coleman winner in history.
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If Brown wins it will be a pat on the back because his parents are related.
:snidegrin
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Tigers won’t change game plan for Jack Riewoldt’s Coleman challenge
Greg Denham
Senior Sports Writer
The Australian
August 21, 2018
It will be business as usual for top-of-the-ladder Richmond on Saturday against Western Bulldogs in their final home-and-away game for 2018, despite Jack Riewoldt’s narrow lead in the prestigious John Coleman Medal.
Courtesy of a 10-goal haul against Gold Coast in round 21, Riewoldt, with 60 goals this season, has a two-goal lead in the competition’s goalkicking award over North Melbourne’s Ben Brown, and a three-goal buffer over Sydney’s Lance Franklin. One goal further back on 56 goals is Geelong’s Tom Hawkins, who booted six against Fremantle on Saturday.
Riewoldt and Brown were locked together entering the penultimate round, but the Kangaroos forward was held goalless for just the third time this season.
Richmond general manager of football operations Neal Balme yesterday told The Australian he did not expect Riewoldt’s teammates to change the way they play in order to help the star forward’s medal chances. He said they would not be encouraged to go out of their way to assist him win the title for a third time if it meant straying from the team’s successful game plan.
Riewoldt was the Coleman Medallist in 2010 with 78 goals and again two years later when he booted 65 goals during the home-and-away season.
“We certainly won’t play like we’re conscious of it,” Balme said of any potential deviation from game style for individual glory. “It is what it is. It’s important to play well because it’s our last preparation before the finals. We don’t want to deviate from a system that’s been very good for us for two seasons.”
Richmond locked in their first minor premiership since 1982 when they beat Essendon last Friday night. With 17 wins, they are already two wins ahead of last year’s home-and-away result when they finished third behind Adelaide.
The Coleman winner will not be known until after the final game of the round on Sunday night when St Kilda host North at Etihad Stadium. Brown has stagnated with just six goals over the past month. Franklin, who averages just over two goals against his former club Hawthorn, has booted 15 over the same period. The Swans host the Hawks on Saturday night at the SCG.
Hawkins entered the race with seven goals against Melbourne in round 18 and Brisbane in round 19, but single goals against Richmond and Hawthorn before last weekend hurt his chances of a maiden Coleman Medal.
Franklin requires nine goals to match Matthew Lloyd in seventh spot for most goals in the code’s history, behind Tony Lockett’s 1360 goals for St Kilda and the Swans. Franklin, a winner of four Coleman Medals, has kicked 917 goals from his 289 games. Riewoldt, with 597 goals in 246 games, needs three to reach the 600 milestone, while Hawkins, in 230 games, needs six goals to achieve the feat of 500 career goals.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-wont-change-game-plan-for-jack-riewoldts-coleman-challenge/news-story/c26defcf5e7ae4455f2c9f558077b480
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Tom Bumpkins will probably kick a dozen v the Surfers Paradise Party Boys.... :shh
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No need to change the way we play. Riewoldt got 50 of his goals from the way we play plus 10 against the Suns who did not turn up in defence.
He will get plenty of chances to kick goals. Just up to him to actually kick them and not miss the easy ones like he did against the Suns and Essendon.
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I’ve been told that players from Richmond and North Melbourne are using their full forwards as motivation to perform in otherwise ‘dead rubbers’ this week.
The Tigers will be looking for Riewoldt whenever they can, and while Damien Hardwick wouldn’t want team structures to be ignored this close to finals, he’s the type of coach that can see the team-lifting worth of getting Jack another Coleman.
But the word from Arden Street is the Roos will be having a Brown-fest (don’t Google that) against St Kilda as they try to salvage something from a season that went so close to a surprise finals appearance.
And don’t write off Tom Hawkins. He may be four from the lead, but he’s been kicking big bags recently and with the Cats playing the Suns at Geelong who knows how many he can come home with?
Source: AFL Rover @ SportingNews.com.au (http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/the-afl-rover-the-more-i-hear-tom-lynch-to-tigers-the-more-i-wonder-collingwood-richmond-rumours-contracts-coleman-medal/2hkx4d6r0xto1x0y9m1bms4y1)
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This sounds like dribble.
I can't see Dimma letting our players be distracted by anything else leading into the finals other than fine tuning our gameplan and rising to peak form for the finals.
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This sounds like dribble.
I can't see Dimma letting our players be distracted by anything else leading into the finals other than fine tuning our gameplan and rising to peak form for the finals.
Exactly, Richmond wouldn't waste time discussing this. In fact I doubt Jack will be our main target.
Meanwhile at Arden street skip bins, they will all be planning how they can finish the season on the high by Ben Brown beating jack to the coleman…
I do take solace in the fact that we will be defending our premiership whilst n0rf players will be collecting ciggy butts and urinal cakes for player awards...
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If we stick to our game plan and play well, Jack will get more than enough opportunities to kick a bag.
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Richmond Tigers' Jack Riewoldt says he'd 'love to win' his third Coleman Medal
Mick Stirling
SportingNews.com.au
22 Aug 2018
Football’s all about team success and individual honours amount to nought, or so we’re always told, but Jack Riewoldt has quite happily declared he’d “love to win” a third Coleman Medal as the AFL’s leading goal scorer.
Riewoldt has won the award twice in the past with a total of 78 in 2010, and 65 in 2012 - the lowest winning tally since Hawthorn’s John Peck led the table with 56 in 1965.
At the moment Riewoldt sits on 60, just ahead of North Melbourne’s Ben Brown (58), reigning Coleman medallist Lance Franklin (57) and in-form Geelong full forward Tom Hawkins (56).
With Riewoldt facing the Western Bulldogs, Brown up against St Kilda and Hawkins taking on Gold Coast at Geelong, there could be some big bags kicked in the final round.
“Look I would love to win it,” Riewoldt told Fox Footy’s AFL 360 on Tuesday night.
“It is an award that has a lot of prestige about it and I’ve been fortunate to win it a couple of times before.
“It certainly doesn’t come into the way I’m going to play or we’re going to play on the weekend.”
“If I kick some goals on the weekend and the results fall my way that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Sporting News’ resident AFL snoop the Rover said he’s heard Riewoldt’s Tiger teammates are using his Coleman bid as motivation, giving them something to aim for in an otherwise ‘dead rubber’ against the Dogs at the MCG on Saturday afternoon.
The Rover also expects North Melbourne players to try and get Brown over the line in a season the big Kangaroo led until Riewoldt’s bag of 10 against Gold Coast in round 21.
“If it goes the other way, and there’s been some guys out there that have been in fantastic form and they kick a bag and they go past me, then so be it.”
“I’ve won it before so it does hold a dear place in my career.
“Sometimes with those individual awards they can be brushed off really easily and say, ‘no, it’s all team first, team first’. If it falls my way it falls my way, there’s always next year isn’t there?”
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/richmond-tigers-jack-riewoldt-says-hed-love-to-win-his-third-coleman-medal-afl-goal-scorer-franklin-brown/1oiln8hn01b9o1hp8d8ijicbaq
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Dont buy it, doesnt fit our mindset at all.
If we are miles in front last qtr maybe, but otherwise no.
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Should the Tigers have a big lead in the second half tomorrow, it will be interesting if they go out of their way to support Jack Riewoldt’s chances of winning the John Coleman Medal for a third time. He enters the final round with a two-goal lead over North Melbourne’s Ben Brown, who in turn is one goal ahead of Buddy Franklin.
Hardwick said his team would not make winning the goalkicking award a focus. “If he wins it, that’s nice, if he doesn’t win it, I won’t lose too much sleep over it,” Hardwick said.
Source: The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-face-selection-dilemmas-as-afl-finals-approach/news-story/73062d27128d39c63702259f545a1148)
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If kicking it to Jack is the best way to get a win then that's what we will do. If it suits us to kick it to Dusty then that's what we will do! The media will get their articles either way ... As long as each Richmond player kicks it to the next Richmond player we can sit back & enjoy it!
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Go Jacki Boy!
Club legend.
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Needs just 3 goals to reach 600 career goals too.
Multiple goals for Tiger Jack as records loom
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Aug 25, 2018 10:20AM
JACK Riewoldt could make Richmond history this weekend in two different ways if his goalkicking exploits continue when the Tigers face the Western Bulldogs at the MCG.
First, securing a third Coleman medal would be the first time ever a Tiger has won the League's goal-kicking award on three occasions.
Michael Roach, a 200-gamer and third on the club's all-time goal-kicking list, is the only other Tiger to have won multiple Colemans, having claimed the award in 1980 (the Tigers' premiership year) and 1981.
Second, if Riewoldt slots three goals he'll become just the fifth Tiger behind Jack Titus (970 goals), Matthew Richardson (800), Kevin Bartlett (778) and Roach (607) to reach 600 career majors.
Riewoldt has rocketed to the top of the Coleman ladder with 60 goals thanks to the 10 he booted against Gold Coast two weeks ago.
However, he faces significant threats from North Melbourne's Ben Brown (58) and Geelong's Tom Hawkins (56), given their respective opponents.
Sydney's Lance Franklin (57) is also in the equation, but doubts remain over whether the four-time Coleman medalist will play against Hawthorn after he hurt his groin last weekend, added to the continual management of his sore heel.
The Tigers will host the Dogs at their MCG fortress, where Riewoldt has kicked 31 of his 60 goals. The last time the teams met, way back in round seven last year, he booted four.
On a sunny Saturday afternoon, conditions will be perfect for Riewoldt to nail his 18th bag of multiple goals this season.
However, Brown is a big chance to mount a challenge against the Saints and their defence minus Nathan Brown and possibly Jake Carlisle, who was a late withdrawal last week, while Hawkins looms as an even bigger threat when the Cats host the Suns.
Brown, who went goalless last week against Adelaide, kicked six against the Saints in round two, and Hawkins three versus the Suns in round 11.
Then there's Buddy. He's no lock to play and has had mixed success against his former team in recent years.
He didn't play in round eight when the teams faced off at the MCG, and managed only one goal in round 19 last year. He's also twice gone goalless against the Hawks since 2014.
However, the five he snared in round 10, 2017 showed he's definitely capable of booting a bag against the brown and gold if he's on.
Riewoldt won his first Coleman in 2010 with 78 goals and his second in 2012 with 65.
With the Tigers' game-plan all about system, it's hard to see them deviating from that to ensure he gets more delivery than usual, especially after Damien Hardwick rued their increased focus on the spearhead as he closed in on 10 goals two weeks ago.
Still, it'll be a nice story if Riewoldt boots a bag and takes home the medal, surpasses a significant personal milestone and writes his name into the Richmond history books for achieving both before the Tigers launch their finals campaign.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-25/multiple-goals-for-tiger-jack-as-records-loom
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Coleman Medal race
Riewoldt 65
Brown 58*
Hawkins 58
Franklin 57*
Bruest 52*
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Didn't the Tomadork kick anything today?
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Didn't the Tomadork kick anything today?
Only 2.
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What a champion we have in Jack. Tiger legend.
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Buddy out
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Jack has now past 600 goals :clapping and needs only 6 more to pass Michael Roach on the all-time Richmond goalkickers list:
Titus 970
Richo 800
KB 778
Roach 607
Jack 602*
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
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Don't think he'll catch Richo. About 750?
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Don't think he'll catch Richo. About 750?
He’s averaging mid 50’s each season, reckon he’ll get a fourth year all things being equal. That’s comfortably over 800
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Not sure if KB will be happy dropping out of the top 3
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Don't think he'll catch Richo. About 750?
He’s averaging mid 50’s each season, reckon he’ll get a fourth year all things being equal. That’s comfortably over 800
Lynch will take a few goals off him 😁
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The Tigers already had top spot secured, meaning they could have greater focus on helping Jack Riewoldt claim his third Coleman Medal. Riewoldt booted five goals, extending his season tally to 65. The race won’t be decided until Sunday's match between North Melbourne and St Kilda, but Ben Brown is seven goals behind Riewoldt.
Hardwick said the players knew where Riewoldt had stood in the Coleman race because he was the primary target inside attacking 50 more often than usual. ‘‘Subconsciously, it’s in their mind and they start looking at Jack a bit more.
‘‘Once again, that will sort itself out once this weekend is done, and we will probably get to a more even spread inside 50 and play a little bit more Richmond-like inside the arcs as well. He has had a great season ... he has become an even better player, which is really pleasing.
‘‘He is just one of those players that works on something – he gets better every year.’’
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dust-in-time-martin-nears-peak-form-as-finals-loom-20180825-p4zzpg.html)
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Not sure if KB will be happy dropping out of the top 3
I would like to think that he wouldn't mind being displaced by a triple premiership Riewoldt, but you never know.
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Brown has 2 now. 10 minutes left in quarter 2
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Make that 3
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Still on 3. Midway Q3.
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Brown held goal-less in the 3rd qtr. So still on 3.
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Think we should change the thread title to 3-time Coleman medallist.
Congrats jacky boy :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Just reward for the best key forward in the competition.
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NOICE!!!
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Think we should change the thread title to 3-time Coleman medallist.
Done! :thumbsup
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:bow
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(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/RiewoldtColeman260818.jpg)
RICHMOND star Jack Riewoldt has won his third Coleman Medal after North Melbourne's Ben Brown couldn't overtake the Tigers spearhead in the last game of the regular season.
Brown led the race for the goalkicking award for much of the season, but a superb 10-goal effort from Riewoldt in a big round 21 win over Gold Coast proved pivotal.
Riewoldt played 22 games this season and was held goalless just twice - in a loss to Adelaide in round two and a round 10 win over St Kilda when he was concussed in the opening minutes.
The Tigers star finished with 65 goals during the home and away rounds.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-26/tigers-star-claims-third-coleman-medal
:bow
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Superstar. Well done champ. :cheers :thumbsup :clapping
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Absolute legend
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Absolute legend
Where’s Ox to sing his praises?
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Absolute legend
Where’s Ox to sing his praises?
:lol
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Absolute legend
Where’s Ox to sing his praises?
Roxus are reuniting especially to record a tribute album....... :shh
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Absolute legend
Where’s Ox to sing his praises?
Roxus are reuniting especially to record a tribute album....... :shh
:lol
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Who said he wasn't a key forward?
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A true tiger great.
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Absolute legend
Where’s Ox to sing his praises?
Roxus are reuniting especially to record a tribute album....... :shh
Body Heat!
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Genuine legend. Guaranteed Hall of Fame 100%, has basically everything a key forward can win - All Australian, Coleman, Premiership + B&F.
I don't think he'll catch KB but I'm sure he'll go over 700+ which is amazing.
I am so proud of this guy. He has really grown as an individual, and become a huge team player, and I genuinely think he's had his best ever year in 2018.
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Genuine legend. Guaranteed Hall of Fame 100%, has basically everything a key forward can win - All Australian, Coleman, Premiership + B&F.
I don't think he'll catch KB but I'm sure he'll go over 700+ which is amazing.
I am so proud of this guy. He has really grown as an individual, and become a huge team player, and I genuinely think he's had his best ever year in 2018.
Agree 100%
He is a Richmond great and in the same breath as my favourite tiger, Richo.
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Genuine legend. Guaranteed Hall of Fame 100%, has basically everything a key forward can win - All Australian, Coleman, Premiership + B&F.
I don't think he'll catch KB but I'm sure he'll go over 700+ which is amazing.
I am so proud of this guy. He has really grown as an individual, and become a huge team player, and I genuinely think he's had his best ever year in 2018.
Agree 100%
He is a Richmond great and in the same breath as my favourite tiger, Richo.
Well my family has had some discussion about this recently - where he stands with our great forwards. And the consensus is that he has been a better player than Richardson.
Hard for me to admit too, because Richo is my childhood hero and I cried when he retired (haha), but when you look at how the game has changed to be kicking 50-60 goals/year every year these days is quite an achievement. Also, besides a couple of brilliant years on the wing when Richo was arguably at his most dangerous, you have to admit that Riewoldt is a significantly more damaging team player and more intelligent footballer generally speaking.
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Impossible to judge.
Richo played in teams that were generally crap.
He was the ONLY thing Tigers fans had to cheer about.
It got to the stage where Tigers and opposition fans were both baracking for/against Richo and disregarding the game result.
It's not a bad idea to think "what if" Richo had the midfield and running defenders delivering the ball like Jack's had in his career.
Mind you they've both been crucified by the umpires/AFL.
In the end, why bother. They've both become Tiger and Tasmanian Hall of Famers.
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Impossible to judge.
Richo played in teams that were generally crap.
He was the ONLY thing Tigers fans had to cheer about.
It got to the stage where Tigers and opposition fans were both baracking for/against Richo and disregarding the game result.
It's not a bad idea to think "what if" Richo had the midfield and running defenders delivering the ball like Jack's had in his career.
Mind you they've both been crucified by the umpires/AFL.
In the end, why bother. They've both become Tiger and Tasmanian Hall of Famers.
Royce, Roach, Richardson and Riewoldt.
Tassie has really found us great forwards all with surnames starting with R. :lol :clapping
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Impossible to judge.
Richo played in teams that were generally crap.
He was the ONLY thing Tigers fans had to cheer about.
It got to the stage where Tigers and opposition fans were both baracking for/against Richo and disregarding the game result.
It's not a bad idea to think "what if" Richo had the midfield and running defenders delivering the ball like Jack's had in his career.
Mind you they've both been crucified by the umpires/AFL.
In the end, why bother. They've both become Tiger and Tasmanian Hall of Famers.
Royce, Roach, Richardson and Riewoldt.
Tassie has really found us great forwards all with surnames starting with R. :lol :clapping
Lol. Royce is not his surname.....
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Impossible to judge.
Richo played in teams that were generally crap.
He was the ONLY thing Tigers fans had to cheer about.
It got to the stage where Tigers and opposition fans were both baracking for/against Richo and disregarding the game result.
It's not a bad idea to think "what if" Richo had the midfield and running defenders delivering the ball like Jack's had in his career.
Mind you they've both been crucified by the umpires/AFL.
In the end, why bother. They've both become Tiger and Tasmanian Hall of Famers.
Royce, Roach, Richardson and Riewoldt.
Tassie has really found us great forwards all with surnames starting with R. :lol :clapping
Lol. Royce is not his surname.....
Just go with it.....
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Impossible to judge.
Richo played in teams that were generally crap.
He was the ONLY thing Tigers fans had to cheer about.
It got to the stage where Tigers and opposition fans were both baracking for/against Richo and disregarding the game result.
It's not a bad idea to think "what if" Richo had the midfield and running defenders delivering the ball like Jack's had in his career.
Mind you they've both been crucified by the umpires/AFL.
In the end, why bother. They've both become Tiger and Tasmanian Hall of Famers.
Richo would’ve kicked well over 1000 goals with a decent midfield and he’s pretty close to Lockett if he could’ve kicked straight.
I had the belief that he developed his contested marking simply out of necessity.
Richo was a one off but Jack has him covered in footy smarts and the only one comparable to Jack in this part of the game was duck carey
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Is the 2018 Coleman medal the best of Riewoldt’s career?
Brayden May
theRoar.com.au
September 1, 2018
At the conclusion of the 2018 AFL home-and-away season Jack Riewoldt has three Coleman medals to his name.
His 65-goal tally saw him claim the award ahead of North Melbourne’s Ben Brown, who led the race for most of the year, and Geelong’s Tom Hawkins, who was at his damaging best at the back end of the season.
Had Riewoldt not kicked a total of 21 goals across the last four games of the season, it’s probably fair to say he wouldn’t have added to his two previous leading goal-kicker awards he claimed in 2010 (78 goals) and 2012 (65 goals).
But while the other two are equally impressive feats, the question of whether the third Coleman medal of his career is the best yet must be asked.
While in hindsight it sounds like a strange argument to make, Riewoldt’s third Coleman comes at a time where fans across the competition are perceiving the 29-year-old differently.
Several years ago, when he claimed his first medal, Riewoldt was often described as a selfish footballer, not in terms of the talent he brought to the field but in terms of the body language he often displayed when the going got tough.
But as Richmond’s game style has changed in the past two seasons we have seen a different side to Riewoldt many would not have envisaged existed.
Former Sydney and Melbourne coach Paul Roos went as far as describing Riewoldt as the “most selfless player in the competition” earlier this year.
“His transformation has been extraordinary,” Roos told Fox Footy. “He’s gone from being a guy that we didn’t question his ability but the body language, to the most selfless player in the competition.
“There is no question; he is the most selfless player in the competition.”
Riewoldt backed that call up shortly afterwards when he revealed he had taken a pay cut in his new contract. With many tipping Tom Lynch to arrive at the club in the off-season, it was the sort of move that had to be made for the Tigers to enjoy further success.
“No, I took a pay cut. I definitely took a pay cut,” he told Fox Footy.
“So I had another year on my contract, next year, so it’s basically a restructuring, really. So next year’s wiped and it’s a three-year contract.
“No, I am on less money next year than I am on this year.”
His off-field attitude has translated onto the field as well, with Riewoldt making an impact in several key areas. While he has kicked 65 goals of his own in 2018, Riewoldt has provided 19 goal assists for teammates, the third most at the Tigers.
In that category he trails only Shaun Edwards (29) and Dustin Martin (22), and with that duo spending more time in the middle of ground they are often tasked with getting the ball deep into the forward line.
During Damien Hardwick’s tenure Riewoldt has often acted as the lone tall forward, in particular during the last two seasons, and that task in itself has presented a major challenge to the cousin of St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt, which he has taken to with both hands.
Being the only tall forward could become frustrating for Riewoldt as high balls into attack could easily be dealt with by opposition defenders, but on a weekly basis we see Richmond’s number eight crash packs and create contests that allows Richmond’s mosquito fleet to flourish.
His performance in that aspect of the game can be seen by Riewoldt’s 51 one-percenters for the year – the seventh-ranked player at the Tigers, but the highest of any forward.
If Riewoldt had not changed his mannerisms on the ground, the Richmond Football Club may well have not won the premiership in 2017, let alone be dreaming of back-to-back celebrations in 2018.
Jack Riewoldt has changed the way he has represented the selflessness in the Tigers playing group, and his 2018 Coleman is simply a reward for the transformation he has undertaken.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/01/is-the-2018-coleman-medal-the-best-of-riewoldts-career/
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Grand Sale, Grand Sale, Grand Sale!
@JackRiewoldt08 and Franco Cozzo on episode one of Deano's Footy Show @nova100... 😂
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1040037774466801669
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Jack Riewoldt's actions on the big stage impressed cousin Nick
Caroline Wilson
The Age
14 September 2018 — 2:49pm
Jack Riewoldt’s 2017 premiership will always be remembered for what he did afterwards on the big stage and not to mention the fact he had the audacious presence of mind to set up his performance with The Killers - in the case of victory — before the grand final.
But Nick Riewoldt will always remember something else Jack did after the game on the premiership stage. Feeling more than a little sick with envy at the time — and attending his first grand final since St Kilda’s loss in the 2010 replay — the older Riewoldt noticed his cousin receive his medal and immediately look up to the sky and blow a kiss.
Jack Riewoldt had family in mind after the Tigers' 2017 grand final victory.
Jack Riewoldt had family in mind after the Tigers' 2017 grand final victory.
Photo: Eddie Jim
‘‘The fact he had the presence of mind amid everything around him and the presentation to give Maddie a little nod meant a lot,’’ recalled Nick of Jack’s acknowledgement of his late sister, who died in 2015. ‘‘I sent him a text to congratulate him of course, but also to thank him for doing that.’’
Nick still pulls Jack up from time to time but describes his past two seasons as mirroring that of his football club. ‘‘He’s had an incredible 24 months. For so long he’s felt the need to be the one and only goal-kicker and I think he carried that load for a long time.
‘‘Now he’s got that out of the way he no longer carries that load the way he’s led that young forward line. I’m so proud of him but I won’t lie, there’s envy on my side.’’
Jack Riewoldt heads into his second successive preliminary final at the MCG next Friday having acknowledged that the 2018 season has seen him play his most consistent football. He has also won his third all-Australian blazer and his third Coleman Medal and, at 29, is acknowledged as one of the game’s greats.
With Dylan Grimes, he is probably equal favourite to capture his second Jack Dyer Medal having captured the essence of striking an ominous influence on games whether or not he kicks goals — the qualifying final against Hawthorn, where he kicked none was a case in point.
Nick Riewoldt’s view is that Jack at heart has never really changed but that the secret to his ‘‘incredible 24 months’’ has been in the manner the Richmond forward has channelled his passion into leadership - a passion that was not lost on soon-to-be Tiger Tom Lynch when he met the club’s on field leaders earlier this year.
Like all of his teammates at the end of 2016, Jack came clean regarding his frailties and disappointments but he has been heartfelt publicly, too. Not least when describing a sense of embarrassment when he first caught up with Nick after becoming a premiership player.
In an interview on 3AW Riewoldt last month described their ‘‘awkward conversation’’ due to his feeling that what he had achieved should have been due his revered cousin, who came so close on two occasions.
‘‘I don’t know if awkward’s the right word,’’ recalled Nick of that meeting. ‘‘We caught up the week after the game for dinner — and Jack knows I still find watching grand finals pretty tough — and I just really wanted to know how he felt. How did it feel now for him?
‘‘I’d just built it up so much in my mind over the years what it must be like to cross over to that place and I was really interested from his point of view. He tried to explain how it felt but I could tell he was playing it down.’’
The secret to Riewoldt’s leadership over this successful era goes beyond his organisation of the small, young forward line around him and the sacrifices he has made on and off the field but extends to his strong support of Trent Cotchin — support that was not always forthcoming in the past.
The differences between the two young men were underlined after the Tigers’ 57-point elimination final thrashing from Port Adelaide in 2014, a defeat kick-started after Cotchin won the toss and elected to kick into a strong wind.
In the Virgin Lounge at Adelaide Airport that September night four years ago Riewoldt, who had played quite well, was seated with the majority of his teammates drinking beers near the bar leading a relatively cheerful card game. Cotchin sat some distance away brooding in a corner with Bachar Houli and Ivan Maric.
A retired famous club premiership captain did not like what he saw, pointing out loudly that Cotchin should have been sitting with his teammates having a beer. What has changed at Richmond since then is that Cotchin remains the quieter, nurturing leader — albeit a relentless inside ball-winning midfielder — and Riewoldt still the more exuberant extroverted key forward.
If Cotchin dedicated his efforts in 2017 to pushing Dustin Martin towards the Brownlow, then Riewoldt and to a lesser degree his sometimes quirky co-vice-captain Alex Rance changed their leadership style to help Cotchin, who was appointed Richmond captain at 22.
In the past the more introverted and earnest Cotchin was known to lose patience with his emotional key forward and vice versa. The difference between the two was that Riewoldt’s frustration was there for all to see while Cotchin was known in the early days to go into his shell.
‘‘He’s learned to channel that passion and emotion,’’ observes cousin Nick of Riewoldt. ‘‘At the core he’s just the same person he’s always been but externally the perception has changed because he’s put all those characteristics into leadership.
‘‘Sometimes he’d do things and I’d be like 'come on Jack ... seriously?’ I’d just shake my head. Now there’s just the odd little bit of body language and if I catch one little thing I’ll pass on something. I’ll be that influence.
‘‘The difference is it’s not a pattern of behaviour any more.’’
And yet Damien Hardwick bristled recently when Riewoldt kicked 10 against the Gold Coast. perhaps concerned that he might start aiming for the Coleman or that his admiring young teammates might start focusing on him. But Riewoldt is no longer the player who could barely watch the likes of Barry Hall or Tom Hawkins in late-season games when vying for earlier Colemans.
Not everyone at St Kilda liked it when Riewoldt helped carry his cousin from the MCG after Nick’s last AFL game in round-23 last year but that gesture was embraced by the Saints players in acknowledgement of the connection between the two — a connection channelled into Maddie Riewoldt’s Vision and the game between the two clubs in her honour.
Riewoldt’s return to Richmond’s leadership group was not announced until the eve of the 2017 home-and-away season after a new leadership program had been installed at the club led by Shane McCurry after senior players — and notably Riewoldt — had clashed with his predecessor, the Leading Teams co-founder Gerard Murphy.
Overlooked controversially over previous seasons, the view was that for Richmond to succeed the infectious if at times frustrating Riewoldt had to be brought into the top echelon. It was a view driven by coach and management and ultimately embraced by his teammates with the key driver that his job was to help Cotchin become a better captain.
Volumes have been written about Cotchin’s growth as a leader over the past two seasons, an achievement underlined by the fact he did not make the top five club captains in the eyes of the MVP voting last year and this year — while not all-Australian like his two vice-captains — but was named the best captain in the AFL by peers across all clubs.
All three players extended their contracts to finish their careers at Richmond and to clear the decks for Lynch, the departing 2018 Gold Coast co-captain. Riewoldt confirmed in his regular role on Fox Footy in July that he approached the club to lengthen his deal take a pay cut in 2019 after a conversation with Rance at the Brighton Sea Baths.
Riewoldt, now signed until the end of 2021, said: ‘‘I feel like I’m doing my part and I feel like all of our players are doing their part to keep this group together.’’ He did not mention Lynch directly but added he had asked list manager Blair Hartley ‘‘what I can do to shore up the finances for the club to know where we’re at going forward as well because we want to keep progressing.’’
Nick Riewoldt, acknowledging Jack tried to soften the blow over the aforementioned dinner when describing the feeling of becoming a premiership player, said it was far more awkward arriving at his cousin’s Tasmanian wedding last November.
‘‘I’d built up so much that dread of being with all the Richmond boys and their celebrating,’’ he admitted. ‘‘That’s sort of your worst nightmare. But the first person I saw when I walked in was Brett Deledio and I figured he had more reason to be struggling than me.
‘‘Actually it was a great night — Rance, Astbury, Dusty and Cotchin they’re all terrific people. At 3am Rancey and I were on the phone to Blair Hartley trying to convince him to recruit me to the Tigers.’’
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-s-actions-on-the-big-stage-impressed-cousin-nick-20180914-p503t1.html
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From Foxsports
19 Sep 2018
St Kilda champion Nick Riewoldt has been taken aback after Cousin Jack Riewoldt revealed ‘Roo’ is his hero.
In an interview to be shown on Friday night — before Richmond’s massive clash with Collingwood, Jack Riewoldt explained that last year the Richmond players were asked to stand in front of their teammates and reveal their heroes — with Jack announcing Nick was his hero.
“In this room last year, we went through a process of what we would say our hardest moment of our life is, the highlight of the moment and the hero,” Riewoldt told Bob Murphy.
“I stood up in front of all my teammates and it was pretty awkward, because I suppose I spoke about Nick being my hero, and I’d actually never told him about this.
“I sat in the front row and watch an older brother talk about his sister that passed away in a way that I could never imagine and I thought I am the luckiest bloke in the world that I have literally got my hero just in reach, in life — just there.”
The St Kilda legend was nearly bought to tears, explaining that it made him feel “pretty special”.
“I haven’t seen that. It’s pretty special,” Riewoldt revealed on AFL 360.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-360-saints-champion-nick-riewoldt-nearly-brought-to-tears-after-cousin-jack-reveals-he-is-his-hero/news-story/490488bc68310eb6022a359f0f5f26dc
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Jack's 5 goals (along with 9 marks):
VIDEOS:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-09-21/pf-riewoldt-kicks-five
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-09-21/pf-jack-pulls-one-out-of-the-box
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-09-21/pf-jack-tries-to-spark-the-troops
Jack has finished the season with 70 goals which is his 2nd best return in his 12-year career.
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Was huge last night :clapping
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BOG
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Remember when Big Tone used to bag him :lol
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he is the soul of the club IMO and always has been
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A true champion. one of the few that performed well last night.
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Remember when Big Tone used to bag him :lol
3rd tall at best 😂😂
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Remember when Big Tone used to bag him :lol
Ox used to endlessly bag him too.
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Muppets :lol
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LMAO!!! stuffin' selfish sook
pooman
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Riewoldt's baby news
Jack Riewoldt reveals he's expecting a new arrival in time for Round 1 next season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-09-22/riewoldts-baby-news
:)
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Riewoldt: "Your greatest growth is from your darkest moment"
Jack Riewoldt speaks to ABC Grandstand to go over the game and describe the message from the rooms post-match.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-09-22/riewoldt-your-greatest-growth-is-from-your-darkest-moment
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Really should've nailed that first shot..... :shh
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Jack is now equal 4th on Richmond's all-time goalkicking chart with Michael Roach on 607 career goals.
Titus 970
Richo 800
Bartlett 778
Riewoldt 607*
Roach 607
Harris 548
Dyer 443
Hart 369
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
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Aside: Jack would be ticked off about us losing for one extra reason. If we had made it through then he'd be playing his 250th on Grand Final day next Saturday.
Barring injury, now he has to wait until at least round 1 next year against the Bluebaggers for the milestone (or even round 2 if fatherhood calls first).
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riewoldtjack08: Season 2019 promo session done ✅ @foxfooty #AFL360
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https://www.instagram.com/riewoldtjack08/
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This weekend will see Seven Melbourne launch its new state-based lifestyle/leisure program The Great Weekend.
Presented by Jane Bunn, Brian Taylor, Jack Riewoldt and Brooke Hogan, The Great Weekend is promising to take a fresh look at unique locations, activities and accommodation on offer across Victoria.
https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/2/18/seven-launches-the-great-weekend-as-a-moveable-feast-axed
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Jack Riewoldt’s (607) first goal of 2019 will see him move to outright fourth on Richmond’s all-time list.
He currently shares that spot with Michael Roach on 607.
Dustin Martin (218) has 12 goals to go in order to replace Tigers footy boss Neil Balme (229) in 14th place at Tigerland.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/02/16/afl-goal-milestones-all-the-2019-possibilities/
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Jack outsmarted the rules committee as well as Frawley.
THE ‘DOUBLE 50’ REARS ITS (UGLY) HEAD — AGAIN
Footy fans, get ready to be outraged.
We’d already seen it during the pre-season but fans saw another 100m penalty (two 50s) when Jack Riewoldt received a 50 on the wing in the third term - courtesy of Liam Shiels’ tummy tap on Jack Graham.
With James Frawley intent on getting ahead of the Tiger to man the mark, Jack was on to it, alert to the rule and hit the brakes to allow Frawley to catch him — and get inside the allowed, protected area.
The umpire seized on the Hawk’s indiscretion and marched him another 50m to the goal line. Jack said thanks by booting one of his three third-term goals.
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/trent-cotchin-helps-richmond-scrape-past-hawthorn-in-jlt-series-clash-in-launceston/news-story/772f833b1733d04feab533a461ad315d)
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Remember when Big Tone used to bag him :lol
Big Tone had every right to point out Jacks shortcomings but hey lets rewrite history and pretend JR has always been a champ right from game one.
Gotta laugh at the flower sniffing brigade.
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Quoting a post from September makes your post even dumber than it already is.
Yeah yeah, Jack was a spud until you 2 gurus put the hard word on him, then he came good. We know the story
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Jack outsmarted the rules committee as well as Frawley.
THE ‘DOUBLE 50’ REARS ITS (UGLY) HEAD — AGAIN
Footy fans, get ready to be outraged.
We’d already seen it during the pre-season but fans saw another 100m penalty (two 50s) when Jack Riewoldt received a 50 on the wing in the third term - courtesy of Liam Shiels’ tummy tap on Jack Graham.
With James Frawley intent on getting ahead of the Tiger to man the mark, Jack was on to it, alert to the rule and hit the brakes to allow Frawley to catch him — and get inside the allowed, protected area.
The umpire seized on the Hawk’s indiscretion and marched him another 50m to the goal line. Jack said thanks by booting one of his three third-term goals.
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/trent-cotchin-helps-richmond-scrape-past-hawthorn-in-jlt-series-clash-in-launceston/news-story/772f833b1733d04feab533a461ad315d)
This new rule is absolutely ridiculous and does not benefit the game 1 bit
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‘How quick did I run?’: Cheeky Tiger explains how to ‘milk’ 50 metre penalty
March 12, 2019 8:58pm
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS
Richmond premiership star Jack Riewoldt has explained how he managed to score an extended 50 metre penalty in the Tigers’ JLT Series clash with Hawthorn.
Riewoldt was given a 50 metre penalty, which turned in to 100 metres, after Hawthorn defender James Frawley ignored a new rule, which has only been implemented during the off-season.
Under the AFL’s new rules, umpires have been told to be stricter on players delaying the enforcement of the 50 metre penalty, with a new rule also allowing players to play on during the advancement of the penalty.
“How quick did I run?” Riewoldt joked on AFL 360.
“Didn’t I know how to milk it … We’d sort of been forewarned with this. We’d seen a couple of the games during the day and they were giving them, and at this point here I thought ‘I might try something here’.
“Poor old chip [James] Frawley. We’ve been battling for 13 years and I thought ‘we’ve got him here’.
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/5cc1bc0b7c372467a3cd2ddcf2da9e86)
James Frawley looks on as Jack Riewoldt scores an extra 50 metre penalty.Source: FOX SPORTS
“I gave him a little and he goes ‘oh I forgot about that rule’. This is what the preseason is about.
“Then I gave away one … I just absolutely hotfooted and tried to get two metres in front. I suppose it’s just about getting use to it. I reckon you’ll just see players roll out of these, instead of trying to do this here and getting the GPS numbers up.
“I went completely against what the coaches order was, he goes ‘just roll out’ and I thought ‘nup’.”
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4524990c3b0725f6e3fb397dde64365b)
Jack Riewoldt sprints to avoid giving away an extra 50 metre penalty.Source: FOX SPORTS
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Jack Riewoldt avoids giving away an extra 50 metre penalty.Source: FOX SPORTS
The specifics of the rule change state umpires will be:
— Stricter on the infringing player, allowing the Player with the ball to advance The Mark by 50 metres without the infringing player delaying the game.
— In addition, the Player with the Football will be able to play on during the advancement of the 50-Metre Penalty.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-360-richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-explains-his-50-metre-penalty-against-hawthorn/news-story/77b3923cfd6a5231511117d4d0775ae0
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2F416VUgAA3yzP.jpg)
Source: RFC twitter.
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Has become one of the all time greats.
Congratulations Jack! :bow :bow :bow :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Agree with Doc. Riewoldt Rance Cotchin and Martin will be considered greats of our club and all are future immortals.
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Jack jolted by Jones
It was a mixed night for Riewoldt in his 250th game. He looked to be in a world of pain during the second quarter after being bumped off-the-ball in the middle of the ground by Blues defender Liam Jones. The contact wasn’t high, and Riewoldt wasn’t concussed, but the incident is still expected to draw attention from match review officer Michael Christian. Jack’s cousin Nick wasn’t impressed while commentating on SEN. “When you're 30 metres off the ball, you can't have somebody bumping you like that, even if it's not head high,” said the St Kilda great. Jack made his own presence felt during the third term though, rising over Jones to take a speccy, from which the reigning Coleman Medallist kicked his first goal of 2019.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/rance-goes-down-with-knee-as-tigers-win-at-a-cost-20190321-p516ei.html)
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Any further news on Jack's wrist?
Hopefully it's just sprained and there's not a crack :pray. Jack was continually grabbing it even after he had it strapped up. If he misses a large chunk of the year then 2019 will pretty much be a write-off already :P.
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Tom Browne just said Jack will have scans in the morning. The worst fears is obviously a break. There will be questions on Dimma as a result for using Jack in the ruck. You don't use a ferrari to plough a field.
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Tom Browne just said Jack will have scans in the morning. The worst fears is obviously a break. There will be questions on Dimma as a result for using Jack in the ruck. You don't use a ferrari to plough a field.
Except he injured his wrist flying for a mark in the forward pocket.....
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Scaphoid, 8-10 weeks :'(
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Tom Browne just said Jack will have scans in the morning. The worst fears is obviously a break. There will be questions on Dimma as a result for using Jack in the ruck. You don't use a ferrari to plough a field.
Except he injured his wrist flying for a mark in the forward pocket.....
Lol exactly. If he blew his knee out in a centre bounce then we could probably get stuck into Dimma
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Tom Browne just said Jack will have scans in the morning. The worst fears is obviously a break. There will be questions on Dimma as a result for using Jack in the ruck. You don't use a ferrari to plough a field.
Except he injured his wrist flying for a mark in the forward pocket.....
Correct
But..... why then send him intp the ruck When you know he's copped a knock, they've taped it and he's favouring it?
:-\
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Because if you're fit enough to be on the field with a bad wrist flying for marks, you are fit enough to play in the ruck and try to get your hand on the onion.
Weird comments
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Tom Browne just said Jack will have scans in the morning. The worst fears is obviously a break. There will be questions on Dimma as a result for using Jack in the ruck. You don't use a ferrari to plough a field.
Except he injured his wrist flying for a mark in the forward pocket.....
Correct
But..... why then send him intp the ruck When you know he's copped a knock, they've taped it and he's favouring it?
:-\
Don’t worry about sending him back into the ruck why would you send him back out there in the last 9 minutes after he was down in the rooms when the game was all but lost already
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Because if you're fit enough to be on the field with a bad wrist flying for marks, you are fit enough to play in the ruck and try to get your hand on the onion.
Weird comments
Wrong!
You play him deep because you can't afford to have him on the bench all night!
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He wasn't on the bench all night though, only when he'd injured himself.
End of the day you're either fit or you're not. They decided he was. Probably the wrong call given I reckon that wrist is cooked now.
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Exactly - if he's not on the bench then you just play him deep forward because he's not 100%.
You can't take this fit or not attitude because you can't afford to bench him all night! He clearly was hindered!
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If he's not fit he shouldn't be out there. If he's deep and not fit, he's stuffing useless.
Not on the same page here Andyy. Garthwaite didn't play tonight because he's not quite ready yet, maybe we should have played him deep...
For real, if Jack was cooked, keep him on the pine. If not, he has to play his role giving Nank a chop out. Simple as that
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Scaphoid doc? What's that
It's 8 weeks if it's true what some are saying.
Then we can kiss the season goodbye
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Tigers brace for more bad news after suspected injury to Jack Riewoldt
Daniel Cherny
The Age
29 March 2019
Richmond are bracing for bad news in relation to three-time Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt, fearing that he has broken the scaphoid bone in his wrist which could lead to an extended stint on the sidelines.
Riewoldt played out Thursday night’s loss to Collingwood after landing heavily in the second quarter having flown for a mark. Following the incident, the spearhead looked to be in clear discomfort, despite battling on bravely until the end of the match.
He was set to have scans on the injury, however it’s understood Richmond suspected a scaphoid injury which could leave Riewoldt sidelined for about two months.
The potential loss of their star forward would be a huge blow to the Tigers, who have already lost five-time All-Australian Alex Rance for the season with a knee injury.
Richmond have not played a game without at least one of Jack Riewoldt or Alex Rance in the side since round 9, 2009.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-brace-for-more-bad-news-after-suspected-injury-to-jack-riewoldt-20190329-p518qd.html
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Oh great! Out for two months :help.
Unless we do a Bulldogs 2016 and stay in finals contention despite the mounting injury toll before miraculously getting everyone including Rance back just before the finals then our season is stuffed already :(.
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Bulldogs had a game plan we have nothing with the new 6/6/6
We have looked like the Richmond of old in 2 games and now it will get worse unfortunately
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Let’s just wait for the results.
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Jacks reply to the article on twitter:
“You got X Ray vison Daniel?”
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Oh great! Out for two months :help.
Unless we do a Bulldogs 2016 and stay in finals contention despite the mounting injury toll before miraculously getting everyone including Rance back just before the finals then our season is stuffed already :(.
:lol
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Jack to miss a month with an undisplaced fracture. No surgery needed.
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Jack to miss a month with an undisplaced fracture. No surgery needed.
Have done this exact injury before. I’d say he’ll do well to only miss 4 weeks.
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Footy Gods cashing in those injury tickets we've built up over the last two years all at once and with interest.... :shh
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt says he thought he tore his ACL in the same spot that injured Alex Rance
April 3, 2019
Josh Gabelich
FOX SPORTS
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has revealed he feared the worst when he hurt his knee during last Thursday night’s big loss to Collingwood at the MCG.
On almost the exact same patch of grass that ended the season of five-time All-Australian Alex Rance the previous Thursday night, Riewoldt was collected by teammate Oleg Markov in a marking contest in the dying minutes, straining the medial ligament in his left knee in the process.
Riewoldt had already fractured his wrist by that stage of the game and is expected to be sideline for the next month, compounding a night to forget for the Tigers, who will also be without Dylan Grimes for this weekend’s trip to western Sydney due to suspension.
“I was standing in exactly the same spot as last week when Rancey did his knee. So all that was running through my head was, ‘you’ve got a knee injury, holy crap’,” Riewoldt told AFL 360 on Tuesday night.
“I went down to the rooms and the first thing you ask is, ‘Doc, is it the ACL?’ and he was like, ‘Nah it’s all good’. So that was a bit of a relief.
“I actually hurt my other medial at the end of last year start of the year in a similar incident. So I have had a bit of a shocker the last three or four months.
“I had a shocker the other night. We got thumped, I hurt myself a couple of times, so it was a bit disappointing.”
While four weeks on the sidelines is hardly ideal on paper, Riewoldt initially expected his wrist injury to cost him much more of the season.
“To be honest, it is the best of a crappy situation,” Riewoldt said.
“I thought I was going to be in for a long time on the sidelines with a possible fractured scaphoid and the ligaments there, but I dodged a little bit of a bullet.
“I fractured the radius. I’ve done a few ligaments on the other side of my wrist as well.”
Collingwood midfielder Adam Treloar admitted he contemplated consoling Riewoldt in the moment after the three-time Coleman medallist hurt his wrist, before thinking better of it.
“I was about ten metres away and obviously being in the family here I wanted to run over there and give him a hug,” Treloar said on AFL 360.
Managed to do a little bit of a medial strain right at the end. I just wanted to really cap off a great night to be honest.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-says-he-thought-he-tore-his-acl-in-the-same-spot-that-injured-alex-rance/news-story/14c174705ae0111e20a7708f5d82e615
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Dimma just said Jack has done a PCL on his good knee and will miss some footy :(.
It was odd because Ch 7 had just interviewed Jack and all Jack said was he knocked his good knee into Gawn's hip and he only was rested for the rest of the game. He gave nothing away that he would be out.
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That's just great
How many weeks Is a PCL doc?
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Depends what Grade the tear is.
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Jack Riewoldt could be sidelined again with fresh knee injury
Jay Clark,
Herald Sun
April 24, 2019 11:28pm
Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt is set for another stint on the sidelines to recover from a fresh knee injury.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick confirmed the gun forward had suffered a posterior cruciate ligament injury in his right knee and would likely miss some more games.
Riewoldt missed three games with a left knee injury but hurt his other knee in his comeback match in Richmond’s 43-point win over Melbourne.
“It is his right leg, his good leg, and it’s a PCL-type injury so we are not exactly sure of the extent of the injury,” Hardwick said.
“But he will miss some time, unfortunately, but how long for we are not quite sure.
“It’s disappointing, he has worked incredibly hard to get back and then to hurt his other knee to this such injury is disappointing.
“He will obviously miss some footy.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-riewoldt-could-be-sidelined-again-with-fresh-knee-injury/news-story/737f0d808fdd3bf16b7c2a97e502306f
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Usually 8 to 10 weeks
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight saying 6-8 weeks.
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight saying 6-8 weeks.
he'd know
LOL
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight saying 6-8 weeks.
I thought he is having scans tomorrow so we won't know what the damage is, let alone the time frame for recuperation until after they are done...... :shh
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Tom Browne on Ch 7 news tonight saying 6-8 weeks.
I thought he is having scans tomorrow so we won't know what the damage is, let alone the time frame for recuperation until after they are done...... :shh
Yep. Tom Browne is a flog
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Jack Riewoldt could need surgery on PCL
Jon Ralph, Jay Clark,
Herald Sun
April 26, 2019
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt could need surgery on his posterior cruciate ligament that would put him out for as many as eight weeks.
The spearhead has injured the posterior cruciate in his right knee and is likely facing a minimum of 3-4 weeks for his posterior cruciate to settle.
He will have scans on Friday on the injured knee, with the hope that he can manage the injury with some rest.
But more serious damage to the knee would require him to have surgery with a recovery time of between 8-10 weeks.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-all-the-latest-injury-news-at-your-club-after-round-5/news-story/9d32d13e9e3ab971cdf31ae7c4866bd8
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Meanwhile Richmond were weighing up which direction to take with Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt after he suffered another PCL injury on Anzac Day eve against Melbourne.
Riewoldt was playing his first game for a month after suffering knee and wrist injuries against Collingwood in round two but the Tigers were hoping he would also not require an operation.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/injury-update-scans-clear-bomber-smith-but-brown-to-miss-20190426-p51ho0.html
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High grade PCL injury. No surgery required, out for 6-8.
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Thank Geez we got Lynch, is all I can say.
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High grade PCL injury. No surgery required, out for 6-8.
So not back until round 14 :-\. That means we'll go back to one tall surrounded by smalls. We're familiar with that set-up so that shouldn't be an issue but having to wait until the second half of the season for Jack to return makes it harder for us to tune and perfect a two tall forward set-up in time for the finals (if we make them).
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Round 14 is the bye. So we give him an extra week and have him perfect for our run to the finals. :shh
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When did he win his third Coleman? :shh
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High grade PCL injury. No surgery required, out for 6-8.
So not back until round 14 :-\. That means we'll go back to one tall surrounded by smalls. We're familiar with that set-up so that shouldn't be an issue but having to wait until the second half of the season for Jack to return makes it harder for us to tune and perfect a two tall forward set-up in time for the finals (if we make them).
Yup that’s the main issue I see apart from the obvious of missing an out and out gun of jacks level. Less time for jack and lynch to get used to playing with each other.
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High grade PCL injury. No surgery required, out for 6-8.
“high grade”?
what’s a high grade?
i have had a Grade 2 tear. Obviously i ain’t a professional footballer!
i think it’s a Level 1 tear as 2 months is fast!
Tom Lynch’s was a year, reconstruction he had?
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When did he win his third Coleman? :shh
Last year. 2010 ,12, 18
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Could have been worse guys.
Dogs
Dockers
Hawks
Bombers
North
Geelong
Adelaide
Then bye
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Round 14 is the bye. So we give him an extra week and have him perfect for our run to the finals. :shh
Not so worried about which round Jack specifically returns but moreso us having to adjust to a two prong forward line later on in the season and getting the connection perfected between midfield and forwards in time for our run into the finals. Remember our mids have been use to seeing one tall and 5 smalls in front of them for the past 2 years.
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LOL Jack putting Tom Browne back into the his place :lol.
(https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/e03195f1-1573-40b9-b6e1-cebae565ccef.png)
https://twitter.com/JackRiewoldt08/status/1121735420952231936
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Hahaha love it
Flogs the lot of em
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Explain that Tom Browne....
This is the sort of reporting that should be get a “please explain” from the AFL.
If these reporters want the privilege of covering our great game, they should be just as accountable as our players, coaches and even umpires to a curtain extent.
You know Tom Browne is searching when he starts complementing Jack after Jack had a go at him.
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Nick Riewoldt found the exchange between [Jack Riewoldt & Tom Browne] “pretty funny” but said players became frustrated when journos referred to their sources when reporting information as fact.
“The issue was he went with it before Jack knew whether he needed to have surgery or not. Jack hadn’t even had scans,” Nick Riewoldt told SEN radio.
“Where players get a little bit riled up is when you then come back, which Tom did, and say ‘I’ve got sources’. So what you’re saying to the player, essentially, is ‘I know you’ve got these people around you that you think you trust but they are my sources and they’re giving me the information but you’ve told them’.
“The issue with this one was Jack didn’t know what the state of play was.
“He got lucky, Tom. He had a guess and he guessed right, so good luck to him.
Riewoldt, however, said he wanted to see more banter between players and journalists.
“But I actually like it. There’s a good bit of accountability going on,” he said.
“We in the media try to keep the players accountable and it’s OK if the players fire back every now and then.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-april-29-2019/live-coverage/4b7cbb6510516175077bf34d98063354
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Did anyone hear Kane Cornes on the Sunday Footy Show calling Jack petulant for having a go at Tom Browne?
In this particular incident there is no possible way Tom got his info from “a source” as Jack hadn’t even had the scan yet.
If Tom wasn’t guessing than his source was.
FO Kane Cornes you try hard journo.
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Did anyone hear Kane Cornes on the Sunday Footy Show calling Jack petulant for having a go at Tom Browne?
TBBH big tone
Of all the commentator out there Kane "wanna be a fireman but couldn't cut it" Cornes is the one I never listen too, ever
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I'm yet to meet someone who likes cornes.
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I'm yet to meet someone who likes cornes.
I'm not even sure if Chad does....... :shh
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I'm yet to meet someone who likes cornes.
I'm not even sure if Chad does....... :shh
There was another segment that the panel was hanging poo on Cornes about Cornes objecting to some actress getting married and he was laughing but he looked like one of those sad, awkward, try hard, nerd, no friends blokes from your office.
How he managed 300 games in a footy club environment if he truely is like how he comes across now in the media, is beyond me.
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‘Ticks me off’: Star escalates Twitter war
Tyson Otto,
news.com.au
29 April 2019 7:30pm
Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt isn’t buying Channel 7 reporter Tom Browne’s explanation for his early reporting of the Tiger’s injury update last week.
The pair are yet to smoke the peace pipe after Riewoldt accused Browne of telling a fib on Anzac Day after the Seven journalist was the first to report on social media that the Tigers’ premiership star had avoided needing to have surgery after injuring his knee in Richmond’s win over Melbourne on Wednesday night.
Riewoldt suffered a posterior cruciate ligament injury in his right knee and sat out the final term of the Anzac Day eve clash — but the club didn’t confirm his 6-8 week injury until late the following day.
Browne’s ability to beat the club to the punch clearly irritated Riewoldt, who accused the reporter of guessing the result of his knee scan — which was only carried out after Browne had already tweeted that the scan had taken place.
Riewoldt clearly wasn’t impressed and savagely hit back at Browne.
Both Browne and Riewoldt were refusing to back down on their positions when they went on Melbourne radio on Monday morning.
“I don’t guess, I’ve got good sources and Jack shouldn’t question my integrity in that regard,” Browne told Triple M’s Hot Breakfast.
“He’s entitled to raise the prospect that he didn’t have a scan, but between Wednesday night and when he had that scan at 3.30pm I can tell you people had looked and spoken about his knee.
“Around town I speak to the right people”.
Riewoldt told Nova 100’s Chrissie Sam & Browny that he believes Browne was “wrong” to speculate about the nature of his injury.
“I actually saw Tom Browne at the club and I was getting into my car to go and have the scan and he’d already tweeted that I’d had the scan and seen the specialist,” Riewoldt said.
“I just wanted to call it out because it’s wrong.
“And the fact that they think they can use a source to see medical records or to find out your medical history is just one thing that ticks me off.”
The response from footy followers last week was well and truly in favour of the Richmond forward and fellow AFL stars Luke Hodge and Patrick Dangerfield also chimed in.
It was later confirmed the forward is set to miss eight weeks after it was found the PCL injury was high-grade.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-star-jack-riewoldt-escalates-twitter-war/news-story/f23f14ef2be1323aeb64985217bdefee
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Going to cost the club $10k if the appeal fails.
Riewoldt to fight fine at tribunal
Daniel Cherny
The Age
29 April 2019
Jack Riewoldt will head to the tribunal on Tuesday night in a bid to be cleared of misconduct over an incident in which he appeared to apply a "chicken wing" tackle to Melbourne's Bayley Fritsch.
Three-time Coleman medallist Riewoldt has taken the unusual though not unprecedented step of opting to contest a fine at the tribunal.
Riewoldt was fined $1500 for the incident involving Fritsch during last week's win over Melbourne in which the Tiger grabbed Fritsch's wrist and pulled the Demon's arm behind his back in a "chicken wing" manner.
Riewoldt did, however, let go before doing any serious damage to Fritsch.
The Richmond spearhead could have accepted a $1000 early guilty plea but will instead head to the tribunal.
In any case, Riewoldt is set to miss about six to eight weeks with a PCL injury sustained in the same game.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/riewoldt-to-fight-fine-at-tribunal-20190429-p51ibg.html
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Hey Jack, media accountability is not a new thing: Barrett
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-30/listen-hey-jack-media-accountability-is-not-a-new-thing
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Jack's Tribunal bid fails
Riley Beveridge,
AFL Media
Apr 30, 2019
RICHMOND spearhead Jack Riewoldt has been unsuccessful in overturning a misconduct fine following a tackle on Melbourne's Bayley Fritsch last week.
As a result, Riewoldt's fine has been raised from $1000 to $1500.
"The fine is still a substantial amount, but I feel like I'm definitely a really fair player," Riewoldt said after his hearing.
"I've sat on the Laws of the Game Committee for two years and I feel like I play the game in the right ethos.
"Understandably, I'm really disappointed with how it has gone."
Riewoldt denied that his actions were 'unacceptable', saying he was attempting to prevent Fritsch from distributing the ball until the moment he saw the umpire pay a free kick.
The AFL's legal counsel, Jeff Gleeson QC, said the action of Riewoldt pushing the arm of an immobilised Fritsch backwards should be deemed as "unsportsmanlike" conduct.
However, Richmond argued that the lack of a reaction from Fritsch or any of his Melbourne teammates proved crucial in determining the minor nature of the offense.
The Tribunal then deliberated for 14 minutes, before reaching its guilty verdict.
Despite its unsuccessful appeal at the Tribunal, Richmond will not be sanctioned a further $10,000 from the AFL due to only attempting to challenge a financial penalty.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-04-30/jacks-tribunal-bid-fails
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Slow news day for Barrett if this is the only thing at Richmond he can complain about.
IF ... there's been a bigger waste of time and money in 2019 than Jack Riewoldt taking his Match Review Officer's chicken-wing fine to the Tribunal ...
THEN ... we can't recall it.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-03/sliding-doors-round-seven
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Don’t expect to see Jack Riewoldt any time soon with the reigning Coleman Medallist telling the Balls and Bumpers podcast that his return date has been pushed back.
“(It is) unfortunate. You go to a surgeon or the doctor and they say you are probably going to be right in 6-8 weeks,” Riewoldt said.
“But with something like this there are so many elements of risk or re-injuring it if you don’t get the right strength back into your knees and quads, which are the most important thing with a knee injury.
“People waste away and lose calf and quad function. We will take a pretty precautionary approach to it. I don’t think I will play straight after the bye.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/05/28/mixed-injury-news-for-the-tigers-but-captain-set-to-return/
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Hardwick provided an update on Jack Riewoldt’s recovery, saying the club aimed for a post-bye return but have since pushed that back.
“It wasn’t responding probably as quickly as Jack would like and for our guys it was a little bit the same but he’s not too far behind,” Hardwick said.
“It was a big aim for us to get him back after the bye, that’s probably not as likely now but it won’t be too much longer thereafter.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-daily-rolling-footy-news-from-across-australia-for-thursday-may-30-2019/live-coverage/e2887d9030a581b17aeb6e9b7df9ee86
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Hardwick said Jack Riewoldt would push for selection against Gold Coast next week, but the star full-forward completed solo drills at Punt Rd and seems more likely to return the next week against GWS.
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-rolling-footy-news-from-across-australia-for-friday-june-28-2019/live-coverage/8ebc75f910b48382ac6ffc8025d66320)
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Jack just said on Foxtel during halftime of the Cats and Crows game, he had trained with the side all week.
Source: Jack
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Jack was interviewed on Ch 9 news (via Foxsports). He wants to play but he has to check a couple of things off first this week. He's not going to rush it though as the longer he gives the knee the stronger it will be.
Watch it here: https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/riewoldt-eyeing-afl-return!737182
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will be like a new recruit
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His absence has given the rest of the side time to work with Lynch. Putting him back into the equation now is exactly like a new recruit.
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Getting him back in basically gives us a new recruit
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I hope he plays better in his return game than the winner of “the recruit”
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Ch 7 news tonight had some vision of Jack stepping up his training today.
Watch here [Go to 1:07 min]: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1145977767348977665
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RIEWOLDT READY TO RETURN BUT WILL IT BE THIS WEEK?
By Michael Randall
Herald-Sun
3 July 2019
Jack Riewoldt says he is ready to return to footy after a 10-week injury layoff — but don’t expect it to be this week.
The Richmond superstar says he feels like he is right to go, but isn’t crossing his fingers he’ll get the all-clear from club medicos to return from the PCL injury he suffered in April.
“Probably not,” Riewoldt said on AFL360 when asked if he thought he’d be cleared to play against Gold Coast this week.
“I would like to play, I feel like I’m right to go.
“I want to train strongly on Thursday and give myself the best opportunity and the best chance.
“The decision won't be in my hands — it’ll be in someone else’s and they’re probably a bit more well-equipped, and less, not less emotionally invested, but more strategically invested.”
Riewoldt admitted a cautious approach would be prudent, given the Tigers’ recent rejuvenation and the bigger fish to fry later in the season.
“Caution may be the way (to go) but if I play I’ve put a good little bank of training together that I feel like I’m ready to go,” he said.
“I’ll know more Thursday after I go and have a bit of a run around.
“I’m sick of rehab. I haven’t missed much footy (in my career) and it’s been tricky.”
Riewoldt said the silver lining was the injury layoff gave him more time to spend with newborn daughter Poppy.
“Obviously Poppy came around right at the start when I got injured, so I’ve been able to spend a bit more time at home, which I’ve been very grateful for, but I would like to get back out and start playing,” he said.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-wednesday-3-july-2019/live-coverage/00bd72e85a6aa7dd32f9c45045bb3cb7
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Barometer: All eyes on key Tiger
Jay Clark
Herald Sun
8 July 2019
Richmond superstar Jack Riewoldt will push hard to make his return from knee injury this week in a massive boost to the Tigers’ premiership tilt.
The premiership hero is on track to return against Greater Western Sydney at the MCG on Sunday if he can complete training this week.
Richmond was dealt a savage blow in Round 6 when he hurt his posterior cruciate ligament, leaving new recruit Tom Lynch to spearhead the forward line for the past nine games.
But Riewoldt is set to rejoin Lynch against the Giants as the Tigers push hard to secure a top-four berth over the remaining seven rounds.
The Tigers hit hot form demolishing Gold Coast by 92 points at Metricon Stadium on Saturday, delivering the club’s percentage a much-needed boost.
They sit four points outside the top-four and play their last seven games of the season at the MCG.
Football manager Neil Balme said Riewoldt showed positive signs on the training track last week and was likely to take on GWS.
“He was really close to playing on Saturday,” Balme said.
“So as long as he can get through training no worries this week, I expect to be available for selection this weekend.
“At this stage, I will be surprised if he’s not available, but he’s got to do everything this week and pull up OK from that.
“But he’s going well”.
Midfielder Dion Prestia also suffered cramp in the win over the Suns but is expected to be fine for Sunday’s clash against the Giants.
Riewoldt, 30, has booted three goals in his three games so far this season, but will add help lighten the load on Lynch and provide another dynamic marking target.
He has also carved a reputation as one of the most selfless and defensively-minded key forwards in the competition, but will need time to regain some match fitness in the run home to the finals.
While Riewoldt and Lynch experienced some teething issues in their three games together earlier in the season, former AFL coach Rodney Eade said Riewoldt’s return would clearly “make them a better side”.
“Riewoldt will be a real plus for them,” Eade said on Triple M.
“He has got high footy IQ, he is smart, he can get it on the ground, and he can get it up the ground, as Tom Lynch can.
“The beauty with them is that they are so different, but they don’t need to be anchored to the goalsquare either.
“Tom is a very unselfish player, he is team-orientated and Jack has been for a couple of years as well and he has got great agility, mobility, he can rove the pack as well as he marks the ball.
“They will complement each other.”
Lynch booted three goals in the rollicking win over the Suns to sit fourth in the Coleman Medal race with 34 majors before Sunday’s matches.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said bigger challenges lay ahead for the Tigers.
“We’re looking forward to challenging ourselves against one of the better sides of the competition,” Hardwick said.
“We’ll probably get a better understanding of where we’re at but we’re certainly confident our best footy is capable.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/barometer-see-every-afl-clubs-injury-list-after-round-16-of-the-season/news-story/73eceaacd12a717acfe94773e548a6c4
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Not 100 per cent fit, but Tiger talisman's ready to return
AFL.com.au
Ben Collins
Jul 9, 2019 9:27PM
RICHMOND forward Jack Riewoldt is confident he will make his much-anticipated return in the big clash with Greater Western Sydney at the MCG on Sunday.
The Tigers' co-vice-captain has been sidelined for 10 weeks since the Anzac Day Eve encounter with Melbourne when he sustained a high-grade strain in the posterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.
Riewoldt just needs to get through training on Wednesday and Friday to prove his fitness.
"Yeah, I think I'll play. I can't wait. I'm really excited," the 30-year-old told Fox Footy on Tuesday night.
The three-time Coleman medallist revealed he probably fell just one training session short of being selected for the game against Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium on Saturday, which Richmond won by 92 points.
However, Riewoldt said his knee still wouldn't be fully recovered for some time yet, but he is now "comfortable" enough to return to the field.
"I don't know whether I'm 100 per cent. I don't think I would get back to 100 per cent again for a while. There's still an element of rehab," he said.
"But I've got to a point now where I feel comfortable and the medical staff feel comfortable for me to go out and play.
"There's always a chance that you go out and you re-injure yourself, as there is with any injury, but in terms of being fit to play I'm right to go."
Riewoldt has played just three games this year in the most injury-plagued of his 13 AFL seasons.
His woes began in the round two loss to Collingwood when he played out the game with three injuries: a small undisplaced fracture and a ruptured ligament in his right wrist, along with a minor strain in the medial ligament in his left knee.
Of course, worse was to come when he returned against the Demons in round six.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-09/not-100-per-cent-but-tiger-talismans-ready-to-return
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The beauty of Riewoldt and Lynch is when one leads and marks on the wing they will then have a decent marking option to look for.
Going to enjoy watching these two in action together
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I remember setting myself with excitement when we had otters and richo. Then cried when otters left. I hope we get some good years from the two towers. Lynchwoldt? Riewynch?
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Will be glad to have Jack back, but personally not too sure about him being openly below 100%. Hope he's close to it though.
Elsewise I don't see the harm in a game of VFL. I know he's a superstar and all, and coaches rarely do it, but I think it would be great to give him a gentle run around and let him bag a few/get some confidence.
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Will be glad to have Jack back, but personally not too sure about him being openly below 100%. Hope he's close to it though.
Elsewise I don't see the harm in a game of VFL. I know he's a superstar and all, and coaches rarely do it, but I think it would be great to give him a gentle run around and let him bag a few/get some confidence.
Agree.
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Kane Cornes having a dig at Jack.
The top 5 AFL figures that hated the media before working in it
By Kane Cornes
SEN
12 July 2019
The relationship between the AFL media and AFL players has been topical this year and it’s more common to see players hitting back at the media.
Prominent examples were an online stoush between Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt and Channel 7 reporter Tom Browne, Luke Hodge hitting out at criticism from Damian Barrett and Todd Goldstein referring to media as a “necessary evil”.
Sometimes, as Tony Jones explains on this week's edition of The Sounding Board, many or a lot of these athletes that call out the media end up relying on it to make a living.
Tony's not prepared to give his top 5, but I am, because it's what I do.
My top 5 AFL figures that hated the media but ended up working in it:
1. Jack Riewoldt
In 2014, Riewoldt banned himself from making any media comment after the media put attention on his omission from Richmond's leadership group.
"This is off my own bat," he said. "If I can't be portrayed the way I want to be portrayed, then I will give it a bit of a miss."
What followed were the comical scenes where Riewoldt tried to hide from the media behind a parked car before scurrying to catch a train all with the goal to escape a few photographers and microphones.
I do find it ironic that Riewoldt is basically the face of Fox Footy’s AFL coverage and he seems to jump behind a camera or a microphone at every opportunity. He appears in promo after promo and is in front of the camera more than any current player in the game.
How ironic.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/07/12/the-top-5-afl-figures-that-hated-the-media-before-working-in-it/
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RIEWOLDT IS BACK
It certainly wasn’t the best game of Richmond spearhead Riewoldt’s glittering career, but the Tigers would have been pleased with his output and also the fact that he got through his first game back in 11 weeks from a knee injury. He accrued 10 touches, three marks and a goal and played a handy support role for Lynch, who was one of the Tigers’ best.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-show-their-credentials-with-strong-win-over-gws-20190714-p5273t.html)
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Couldn't had 2-3 but I'm glad he had a run unscathed. Pleasingly with Lynch down in the F50 Jack was back to roaming up the wings and providing support further downfield which was effective. Great to see the champ back, we are a much more dangerous side with him on the field...
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Just an incredibly smart footballer.
Misses 10 weeks and didn’t miss a beat.
Awesome return IMO.
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Star key forward Jack Riewoldt’s significant scoreboard impact in Richmond’s final home-and-away round victory over Brisbane at the MCG will hold him in good stead leading into the September action.
Riewoldt had kicked nine goals in six games coming into last Sunday’s match, after returning from nearly three months on the sidelines with a knee injury.
He finished the match with 14 disposals, seven marks, including five inside-50, four goals (a game high and his best return for the 2019 season) and seven score involvements.
Read more: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-08-27/riewoldts-timely-goalkicking-return
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Jack Riewoldt – 4
The key forward was barely sighted in the first three quarters before becoming more involved in the last term. Missed two set shots on goal, including hitting the post from a snap around his body.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-20/every-tiger-rated-from-the-preliminary-final
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Never seen Jack so bad.
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4 is generous!
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Jack looked a bit schizenhausen until the later half. Hopefully he was just a bit off his tucker for this game. Good that we can still bring a game home like that with players going down and some having a dirty night though.
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Had a really off night. Kicking was poor and shocking hand pass to Cotchin. Hopefully he has a blinder in the grand final
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4 is generous!
Agree
Though he did keep trying, didn't drop his head but was very poor
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I thought he was a 2/10. Jack was schizen last night. He needs to step up next week and put in a big performance.
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He wasn’t great but has runs on the board. This is the exact reason why we have Lynch. Coming back from injury and probably still a little rusty especially with finals footy he was just a bit all over the shop last night. But jack being the professional he is I know he would be upset with his performance and he will want to be firing for the granny
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Jack was a bit off his best last night, but his tap down out of the pack to Dusty in the goalsquare was one of the most beautiful team things I've ever seen! Absolute poetry! :clapping :gotigers
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His head was just not right, just didn't turn up
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I know it’s part of our style but he tried the flick/tap on too many times last night. It obviously worked beautifully for Dusty’s second goal but sometimes it’s just better to take possession.
Will bounce back next week like the champion he is.
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Yep, the one to Dusty was beautiful and he got no credit whatsoever from the gimps in the commentary box. But the rest of them were bordering on ridiculous, was like he'd lost confidence to do anything other than bang the ball out of the air in hope
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2019 preliminary final vs Geelong
4 kicks, 2 Hb, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 0.3 behinds
2017 preliminary final vs GWS
6 Kicks, 2 hb, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal.
...And we all remember how he played in the GF. :shh :shh
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Not his best game but he still had a crack and gave Lynch some room and intern some one in one contests that ended up in goals and a win.
Jack is a star and working well with Lynch since he has been back.
Jack is just about the biggest reason we are where we are as a club.
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'Statistically not great': Riewoldt reacts to pressure
By Jason Phelan
wwos.NINE.com.au
25 September 2019
There was a time when an off night would have haunted Jack Riewoldt, but the Richmond spearhead says his low key outing against Geelong won't be a factor when he runs out for Saturday's AFL grand final.
Riewoldt had one handball before halftime and didn't kick a goal in the preliminary final win over Geelong at the MCG on Friday night.
But he supplied the goal assist of the season in a pivotal third quarter when he set up Dustin Martin and is confident he has enough big-game experience to step up against GWS.
"Statistically, I didn't have a great game and in the past I could've got down about that but I still had an impact and did some things," Riewoldt told Fox Footy's AFL 360 on Tuesday night.
"I played pretty well grand final day two years ago.
"I don't focus on the fact that I didn't kick very well or I didn't get many touches because if I focus on that then I'm going in with a pretty poor mindset.
"I know I can play well on the big stage ... I know I can play my role for the side.
"I've got no qualms going into the grand final... I'm so excited and really confident."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/star-tiger-riewoldt-unfazed-by-quiet-night/66b459f5-048b-466c-8313-6b310645ad34
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Jack Riewoldt – 8
After barely touching it against Geelong last week, Riewoldt bounced back with a bang, kicking five goals. Was the recipient of a dubious free kick to get going in the second quarter but then led Phil Davis to the ball repeatedly to have three by half-time. Iced his match with two more in the final quarter.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-28/player-ratings-richmond
JACK RIEWOLDT 8
Ripped the Grand Final open like a bag of potato chips with three goals in the second term. Clutched daughter Poppy, who was born at the start of the season, on the siren. Boy, won’t cousin Nick be jealous of Jack’s medals at Christmas?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/afl-grand-final-player-ratings-dustin-martin-and-bachar-houli-shine-toby-green-phil-davis-flop/news-story/3b13f40fe020027c0e71ae275f356ff2
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Made amends for last week, can’t keep this guy down, was enormous when it counted!
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The media helped to fire Jack up during the week by continually questioning him about his form. They forgot the same thing happening in the 2017 finals series. Davis deciding to then play with that injured calf was an added bonus. Give Jack a couple of metres on the lead and he'll kick a bag every time.
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can't keep Lynch down without freeing Jack and vice versa. One of them is going to tear you a freshy
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Ashes to Ashes
Dust to dust
If Lynch don't get you
Then Jack must.
* Stolen from the Lillee/Thompson mid-70s Aussie cricket days.
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I was starting to think age was catching up with Jack but he has delivered again when it matters most.
I actually didn't think he could kick 50-60m anymore until this finals series.
One of a handful of current Tigers essentially guaranteed AFL Hall of Fame!
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I mean Lynch was unlucky early with a lot of those marks not being paid, he held on to em and then they rode him into the ground and they fell free or got hacked away late, he could of had 3 or 4 in the first. That was what was blowing my mind about the score it could of been a lot worse, we were also inaccurate early.
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Jack Riewoldt was a footy magnet inside 50 in the last decade!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIv4d1hUwAAcm0C?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/triplemfooty/status/1192343426571948032
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Jack only behind Buddy in terms of most goals over the past decade.
Lance Franklin HAW/SYD 639
Jack Riewoldt RIC 574
Josh Kennedy WCE 562
Tom Hawkins GEE 495
Eddie Betts CAR/ADE 477
Taylor Walker ADE 403
Jeremy Cameron GWS 403
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/11/20/who-has-kicked-the-most-afl-goals-in-the-last-decade/
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Not done yet: Veteran Tiger sets his sights on lofty goal tally for 2020 – and he’s outlined how many seasons he’s got left
December 2, 2019 11:39am
Sarah Olle
FOX SPORTS
Dual Richmond premiership forward Jack Riewoldt believes he’s “got at least three years” left in him.
The 31-year-old will return to Punt Road Oval on Monday morning alongside his more senior teammates, with the younger crop having started their pre-season last week.
While Riewoldt managed just 13 games in 2019 because of a knee injury, he’s confident his body can sustain another three seasons of AFL footy.
“I reckon I’ve got at least three years in me,” Riewoldt told the Balls & Bumpers podcast.
The three-time Coleman medallist was instrumental in Richmond’s 89-point win over GWS in the Grand Final in September, booting five majors in a dominant display up forward.
Riewoldt’s performance put to bed any doubts the game had past him, after a quiet and goalless match against Geelong the week beforehand.
And the big Tiger has set his sights on a lofty goal kicking tally for 2020.
“Over and under I think it’s probably 60 … that’s probably the line,” Riewoldt said.
The Tigers will go into next season as overwhelming favourites for the flag, particularly given the inclusion of five-time All-Australian defender Alex Rance (ACL).
Riewoldt, who’s contracted until the end of 2021, said that despite entering his 14th pre-season, his love for the game – and its training requirements – was as strong as ever.
“I enjoy pre-season as much as I enjoy the season because you can see within the group – especially with younger players – that there’s no angst about the fact that there’s a game at the end of the week,” Riewoldt said.
“You just sort of get out there and try your hardest. That’s all that you can sort of do with pre-season.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-richmond-forward-jack-riewoldt-contract-goal-tally-2020-tigers-return-to-preseason-training-balls-bumpers-podcast/news-story/221fa227f04363c325f69d4d6ad0d5f4
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Love this guy. Really hoping for 300/700 or better
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Jack is only one of two (Kennedy the other) over the past decade who has kicked 10+ goals in a match three times.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/12/11/the-best-afl-goal-returns-of-the-last-decade/
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Who won this decade’s Coleman Medal?
Dan Batten
Herald Sun
17 December 2019
Franklin leads the decade’s Coleman Medal by a considerable margin with 62 more goals than the next best forward, Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt.
While he is no longer the No. 1 man in the Tigers forward line, Riewoldt has been a goalkicking machine over the past 10 years, claiming three Coleman Medals.
1. Lance Franklin (Hawthorn, Sydney) - 639 goals (198 games)
2. Jack Riewoldt (Richmond) - 574 (216)
3. Josh J. Kennedy (West Coast) - 562 (198)
4. Tom Hawkins (Geelong) - 495 (213)
5. Eddie Betts (Carlton, Adelaide) - 477 (219)
6. Jeremy Cameron (GWS) - 403 (154)
7. Taylor Walker (Adelaide) - 403 (175)
8. Jarryd Roughead (Hawthorn) - 394 (181)
9. Luke Breust (Hawthorn) - 392 (207)
10. Jack Darling (West Coast) - 378 (196)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/best-forwards-of-the-decade-leading-goalscorers-most-accurate-goalkickers/news-story/3894e4d1bff9494aca41c05f9391c416
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Magnificent durability for Jack, bar 2019
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Which further highlights how much of a champion Riewoldt is. The tigers were only competitive and pushing for top 8 from 2012 onwards. Franklin was the beneficiary of a gun Sydney midfield throughout the early 00s and then Sydney once he went up north. If I had to pick a team to win I’d take Riewoldt over franklin as CHF any day of the week
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I think Jack could easily play CHB.
Id like to see Dimma try it giving CCJ
a chance in the forward line.
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I’d rather try Nank as a key back.
While he does give away free kicks, he’s an exceptional mark and has a great engine.
I’m not moving a 3 time Coleman medalist whose just kicked 5 in a granny from key forward.
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Both are too slow for key back roles. Can't have them down there with Astbury IMO.
Balta' or just go with the Grimes/Astbury/Broad combo like this year
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The team will evolve as it has to but a 30+ Jack is too slow to try in the backline now. His footy smarts and tricks would also be wasted down there. We need our young talls instead to step up in defence just as Soldo did in the ruck this year. Balta to date hasn't shown anything yet as an AFL defender. With no Rance, we need him to just in case Grimes or Broad get injured.
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Riewoldt reflects on 'scary' moment amid CTE debate
By AAP
Feb 28, 2020
The sight of Jack Riewoldt, on all fours, peering out from the stairs behind the MCG bench was the source of some mirth a decade ago but a lot has changed since then.
Riewoldt, legs barely under him, was helped from the ground between two trainers in the first quarter of a round two, 2011, clash with St Kilda after his head smacked the turf following an ambitious marking attempt.
The clearly-concussed Richmond spearhead was chastised in some quarters for remonstrating with medical staff who, quite rightly, were about to substitute him out of the game.
Riewoldt was asked about the incident in the aftermath of Graham "Polly" Farmer's shock brain disease diagnosis on Thursday.
The AFL had already taken steps forward in the treatment of concussion and head knocks back then.
But he believes his misfortune early in that drawn thriller is an example of how much league policy and public perceptions have continued to change for the better.
"You don't think straight when you've got concussion so I wasn't thinking straight that night," Riewoldt said.
"I look back on that and it scares me a bit more than anything else really.
"I know it looks funny and it looks a bit unusual, but it's clear vision of what concussion can do to you and how it can make you think."
Researchers have revealed that Farmer has been posthumously diagnosed with Stage III chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) following tests on the former champion ruckman's brain.
Farmer is the first AFL player to be diagnosed with the disease believed to be caused by repeated head knocks and concussions, which is only able to be diagnosed after death.
Like many of his AFL colleagues, Riewoldt has concerns about his health now and long after his decorated career is over.
But he is also confident all that can be done is being done.
"The game has come so far in so many aspects but the medical area is where it's accelerated more than anywhere else," he said.
"There's just a huge emphasis on player safety, especially when head injuries are involved.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/riewoldt-backs-afl-on-concussion-policy/eb5a6d6b-f915-45a6-928c-183ef2ab3d0c
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‘Hey all you cool cats and kittens’: Tiger star channels Tiger King as he goes loco in isolation
April 3, 2020
FOX SPORTS
Getting used to life in isolation is hard work – and if Jack Riewoldt is anything to go by, AFL players are also finding this new world order all a bit much.
With some new-found time on his hands, the dual Richmond premiership player has really upped his Instagram game. And he’s given us a huge laugh (thank you!) in the process.
Channelling his inner Tiger King - a series on big cat breeding in America – Riewoldt has morphed himself into two documentary’s protagonists in Joe Exotic and Carole Baskin.
As his cousin and St Kilda champion Nick Riewoldt said: “I’ll never be able to unsee this.”
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2020-jack-riewoldt-tiger-king-joe-exotic-carole-baskin-coronavirus-updates/news-story/96a12b5dd1cd32583ef9da8f9d7255df
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Tigers star shares footy and personal toll of self-isolation
April 6, 2020 6:59pm
Ben Waterworth
FOX SPORTS
Dual premiership Tiger Jack Riewoldt has opened up on the struggles of self-isolation, personified by the day family members couldn’t visit to celebrate his daughter’s birthday in person.
With the AFL season temporarily shut down and strict physical distancing measures in place around the country due to COVID-19, Riewoldt said, like many worldwide, it’d been a tough period for him and his family.
Asked what he was missing most about footy at the moment, Riewoldt told Fox Footy Live: “Social interaction. That was the one thing I really missed with the fans earlier on.
“That Round 1 game (against Carlton in front of no fans) was as eerie and soulless as I’ve ever played. The interaction with staff members, I miss seeing my mates at the club.
“I miss seeing my family as well. My daughter’s turned one and neither of her grandparents could come over for her first birthday. That’s just the human aspect that everyone’s dealing with at the moment, missing loved ones.
“The personal touches is the one we all crave.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan reiterated on the weekend the league’s hope for every team to play 17 games this season.
Riewoldt said Tigers officials had kept him and his teammates well informed about any developments, but the uncertainty of when the 2020 season could resume remained frustrating.
“Probably the hardest thing is we don’t have an end date,” he said.
“We are preparing for that early June timeslot, but it may be July or August.
“It’s a tricky situation to navigate in terms of preparing and being ready to go, but we feel like we’ve got the right people in the right positions to get us there.”
Riewoldt said individual training programs were “starting to ramp up” as the playing group worked towards a possible early June restart.
“It’s all about maintaining those training standards, granted they are a little bit more difficult to do when you’re training by yourself or in twos and a lot of guys don’t have equipment with gyms shut down as well,” he said.
“The fact we’ve been able to catch up via Zoom and FaceTime with our coaches and physical coaches, they’ve been able to pick brains of players around what works and spread it out to the rest of the group.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-coronavirus-news-updates-2020-jack-riewoldt-daughter-fox-footy-live/news-story/e0c3ed7201cb95991ea00b2734ab2803
https://thewest.com.au/sport/richmond-tigers/jack-riewoldt-on-dealing-with-isolation-and-the-tiger-hes-happy-to-keep-at-a-distance-ng-1d4d31d0fb9376cdd9f778ab70e6c0c1
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I hope the season gets going for guys like Jack. Needed a solid 2020 to achieve the 300/700 I have hopes for
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The Tiger cubs Jack has taken under his wing
Find out which young Tigers are reaping the rewards from Jack Riewoldt's leadership. @SamLandsberger
Richmond vice-captain Jack Riewoldt wants to use the twilight years of his AFL career to tutor the club’s next generation so the Tigers carry on the premiership dynasty they are building.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-has-evolved-into-one-of-the-clubs-great-leaders/news-story/dc59a3fd119a0692fb709773da79223e
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RIEWOLDT STARTING TO BOUNCE OFF THE WALLS
RSN927
10 April 2020
Jack Riewoldt says he’s starting to bounce off the walls in isolation without AFL football. He told the Breakfast Club about his training program away from Punt Road.
“I’ve been riding every second morning and then on the other days I go for a run.”
Like most AFL players, Riewoldt has established a makeshift gym at home but stressed the importance of practicing one of the most basic skills in AFL football.
“You’ve got to have hamstrings conditioned, calves and quads conditioned for kicking in AFL football otherwise you put yourself in a position that you’re more likely to be injured from that rather than anything else.”
The 3-time Coleman Medalist says he’s been spending a lot of time with one of Richmond’s young guns, Patrick Naish.
“I’ve got an oval at the end of my street. You’re allowed to train in twos.
“He’s one of my favourite people to spend time with but 20 minutes is enough time for your daily dose but after that you’re back to avoiding him like the black plague!”
The Vice-Captain says he misses the football club as a whole, not just the playing group.
“Everyone. Not just the players, I miss seeing the staff.”
“I’m really missing seeing my family, that’s one of the hardest things.”
With the return date still unknown, Riewoldt says getting off to a fast start once footy resumes will be crucial.
“I think the AFL are doing a fantastic job in terms of leaving no stone unturned in how they can provide the game to the fans.
“We just need to hit the ground running.
“Whatever the game does look like we’ve got to adapt like every other side.”
https://www.rsn.net.au/riewoldt-starting-to-bounce-off-the-walls/
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AFL ace Riewoldt calls on Randle for celebrity Eseries preparations
By Brett Murray
Speedcafe
6 May 2020
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Thomas Randle (left) and Jack Riewoldt
Two-time AFL Premiership-winning player Jack Riewoldt is taking this month’s BP Supercars All Stars Eseries celebrity race as serious as his footy with the help of Thomas Randle.
A delay to the celebrity event until Monday, May 18 will give the goal-kicking whiz more time to prepare at Randle’s new Dream Simulation complex in Melbourne and the 31-year-old is not wasting a minute of the opportunity.
He is also receiving personal tuition from Randle, but the regular Dunlop Super2 Series driver might be regretting that after Riewoldt turned his inaugural one-hour session into a four-hour enduro last night.
“When I heard about the celebrity race my immediate thought was ‘how can I get in this field’,” said Riewoldt.
“I love everything about the sport and I admire the drivers and the crews so much and to have a few hours on the Dream Simulator with Thomas was an absolute thrill.
“I’m not lying, I deadset struggled to sleep after the session on the sim.
“All I was thinking about was braking spots and gear changes, it was so much fun.
“Poor old Tommy had booked me in for an hour. We didn’t leave until just before midnight about four hours later, I was hooked.”
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Riewoldt on the Dream Simulator set-up
Others to join Riewoldt in the celebrity event will include Supercar team owners Brad Jones and Barry Ryan, former driver and now commentator, Neil Crompton, Australian cricketers Brad Hodge and Peter Siddle, Parramatta Rugby League player Nathan Hindmarsh and surfer Luke Egan.
Riewoldt has become a Supercars fan through a friendship with two-time Supercars champion Scott McLaughlin with the pair developing a popular weekly podcast, Balls and Bumpers.
And the dual Coleman medallist, an award for the most goals kicked in an AFL season, is an unabashed fan of the category and is a regular attendee at races, most recently the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 last year where he celebrated McLaughlin’s victory.
Randle helped coach Riewoldt through his session assisting with braking points, gear changes, driving lines and dealing with traffic.
“I was so impressed with his drive to want to get better, he asked so many questions and you could see on his face how hard he was working. It was great fun and I’m pleased he enjoyed it,” said Randle.
“I pity the cricketers, rugby league players and surfers who have to come up against him in the race, he should be one of the favourites.
“This is super cool to have an AFL superstar down here on the Dream Simulator to learn the ropes.
“You can tell from his first session with us what a competitive beast he is and how well he wants to go in this – he doesn’t want to embarrass himself, but he also wants to win the thing, which I like.”
Riewoldt was happy to start the opposition sledging early for the celebrity event.
“Surely Neil (Crompton) is too old to go sim racing, he’ll have to dust off the Atari to get set to race us,” laughed Riewoldt.
Randle will act as Riewoldt’s assistant for the celebrity race where he’ll again use the Dream Simulator.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/05/06/afl-ace-riewoldt-calls-on-randle-for-eseries-preparations/
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Our guest this Friday is now a dual premiership player with the mighty @Richmond_FC. @JackRiewoldt08 has spanned 13 years and has an AFL Hall of Fame resume in the making. Hear how he has made himself into a leader on and off the field. Thanks once again to the team @NationalMake .
https://twitter.com/CoreyMcKernan/status/1259724235183775744
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Richmond star Jack Riewoldt is working hard in simulator to prepare for Bathurst race
Anya Whitelaw
Western Advocate
13 May 2020
HE might be the king of Tigerland, but trying to be king of the Mount is a very different prospect for Richmond AFL star Jack Riewoldt.
Next Monday Riewoldt will be sitting in a simulator and taking on Bathurst's iconic Mount Panorama circuit as a competitor in the Supercars celebrity race.
As a two-time premiership player, a three-time Coleman Medallist - the award given to the AFL's leading goal-kicker - as well as a three-time All-Australian, there's no doubting that Riewoldt is a competitor.
That is why he has been spending plenty of time in the simulator under the guidance of Super2 series driver Thomas Randle and been picking up pointers from current Supercars champion Scott McLaughlin prior to his Bathurst test.
"I've been down there punching out a few laps around the mountain and look, I started on a pretty low base, so I've rapidly improved," Riewoldt told Supercars SideTracked.
"I couldn't get much worse, I think I crashed about 25 times in my first lap around there.
"I'm getting better slowly and I think I've still got another couple practice runs before Monday night."
Though Riewoldt has never raced an actual Supercar, he was taken on a hot lap of Sandown three years ago by McLaughlin.
It gave the Tigers star some idea of what a Supercar is capable of.
"I've been lucky enough to do a lap with Scott around Sandown about three years ago, it was on the eve of the 2017 preliminary final," he said.
"I just got the feel for what it was like, Scotty said he was basically going about 70 percent."
While there are plenty of simulator nuances Riewoldt is coming to terms with, there is one area of virtual racing that stands on top of his list of challenges.
"The braking thing is probably what I've found the most amazing thing," he said.
"The speed's there, but it's the ability to brake and how quick they corner is something you never really know until you've been in a Supercar or been in a car that goes like that.
"My goal is before the race, I want to get down to 2:08, 2:09 for a lap around Mount Panorama in a simulator.
"I'm getting better, about two seconds better every time, so with another 14 visits to the simulator I think I'll be down there."
Another of the celebrities who will take part in the race, former Supercars driver and now commentator Neil Crompton joked he has "done exactly nothing" to prepare for his return to Mount Panorama.
"I had a couple of goes [in a simulator] about three weeks ago and they were average ... but it's a fair line up," he said.
The celebrity race will be streamed live on the Supercars Facebook page from 7pm.
THE BATHURST CELEBRITY DRIVERS: Angus Ta'avao, Barry Ryan, Blake Williams, Brad Hodge, Brad Jones, Dan Reardon, Daniel Bowles, Jack Riewoldt, Jarman Impay, Luke Egan, Mick Doohan, Nathan Hindmarsh, Neil Crompton, Peter Siddle, Ryan Story, Scott Pedder, Toby Price, Zak Brown.
https://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/6753719/king-of-tigerland-riewoldt-hopes-to-rule-at-the-mount/
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An honest Jack Riewoldt admits he struggled to train after initially losing motivation during the footy shutdown. The Tigers goal kicker reached out to an AFL great to recapture his best and has returned leaner and lighter to help extend his career. @SeanSowerby7 #7AFL #7NEWS
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1270277802323963904
* Cousin Nick who is still fit as anything helped Jack get back into a routine during the lockdown.
* Jack is now lighter and feels better than ever. He hopes he hasn't stuff things up by becoming lighter. This season is going to be won by those who stand up both physically and mentally over the course of the whole season.
* Despite having won a number leading goalkicking awards, he knows with Lynch now in our forward line that that has changed.
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A lighter jack in his age is a good thing.i think hodge said once he passed 28 he went in 1 kg lighter each year as it was easier on his joints?
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A lighter jack in his age is a good thing.i think hodge said once he passed 28 he went in 1 kg lighter each year as it was easier on his joints?
Richo lightened off later in his career. From memory in 2004 they tried to bulk him up and play him as a stay at home forward but that didn't work for him or the team. So he lost the bulk and ended up almost winning a Brownlow playing on a wing in 2008.
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Might need to start focussing on more footy and less media / Bathurst after tonight’s showing.
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Wasn’t a great showing tonight for sure. But he is a jet and just like how he was disappointed after the prelim he fired back the following week. I trust in Jack
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Poor play all round. Jack stabbed at it trying to steer it through rather than kick through the ball so he didn't make the distance. Then there were no teammates on the line just in case it did drop short.
Oh well. Better to do schoolboy mistakes like that in round 2 and get a kick up the pants than it costing later in the season in a final.
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The end is not far off for Jack. His GF against a half fit Davis glossed over a shocking final series also. He was close to Our worst tonight and was definitely our worst in the Prelim last year.
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I dont want to admit it but the signs arent good. If he plays like that the rest of the season he's done.
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“It’s not footy as we’d love it”: Richmond star admits disappointing return
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
12 June 2020
Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt acknowledges last night’s clash with Collingwood was a disappointing way for footy to return.
The Tigers and Magpies played out a dour 36-36 draw at the MCG with just 10 goals kicked between the two sides who are expected to both be genuine premiership contenders this year.
The shortened quarters doubled with a lack of connection stemming from limited training was evident throughout but Tigers star Riewoldt is supremely confident it will improve sharply.
“We’re still training in groups of eight. We only get a chance once a week to train as a team and it doesn’t serve as enough time to continue to grow,” he told AFL Nation post-game.
“It’s tricky, but hopefully we can come through over the next week or two weeks and start to see some relaxing in the training regimes. Just to give us a bit of a chance to train together more as a group and develop that connection.
“Every side is going to be in the same boat. It really is bloody hard to train as forwards and then come out and have a connection with the mids when you’ve only trained together once during the week.”
Riewoldt, who failed to make the distance with a late set shot from 40 metres, says it is the strangest game he’s ever played in.
“Yep, hands down it is,” he added.
“It’s just bizarre. You look up and there’s 18 minutes gone in the quarter and you think I’m starting to get into the grind of the quarter, and next thing you know the siren’s going.
“I think also the fact we are getting a minute after every goal is scored because they are disinfecting the ball or whatever they’re doing, it just gives guys a chance to rest. It takes that grind out of the game which I quite enjoy, trying to play under fatigue.
“We’ve just got to adapt and learn. Every side is learning on the fly. Obviously we’d like to play in higher scoring games for ourselves but defensively both sides will come away happy with the way they defended.”
While there has been plenty of criticism of the game, Riewoldt was of the opinion that at least we are back playing.
“It’s not footy as we’d love it to be but I suppose it’s better than nothing,” he concluded.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/06/12/its-not-footy-as-wed-love-it-richmond-star-admits-disappointing-return/
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He had a shocker
Simple as that 😎
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The end is not far off for Jack. His GF against a half fit Davis glossed over a shocking final series also.
Thought he was quite good v Brisbane in the QF ... :shh
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Played a stinker.
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Wasn’t far off a Norm Smith 9 months ago.
Should’ve kicked 3 vs Cats in Prelim.
A long way off being finished
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The time has nothing to do with not making the distance on a regulation set shot. But I believe in Jack and he has so many tricks in his bag I know he will come back firing. If his hamstrings can hold up I think he’d be handy on a wing because he reads the play so well and is a great field kick. Otherwise he should play the Gunston second forward roll.
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Jack is fine. Same as the rest. Rusty and unfit.
Not a lot of soft tissue issues yet anyway.
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Had Moore all over him and Collingwood flooded back. This with our poor delivery into the forward line meant our forwards were under pressure all the time.
I learnt along time ago to never write a champion off and I will wait to see what Jack produces over the next couple of months
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Moore is a gun defender. 4 inches on Jack and quicker to boot.
Would be pleased if we can in fact steal him away.
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Would rather go for De Goey.....:shh
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we have money to burn boys and either de goey or Moore would be perfect
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Would rather go for De Goey.....:shh
If Balta or another bloke comes on as a KPD I would agree. Having De Goey and Dusty in the F50 would be terrifying.
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Tigers star reveals Pendles’ cheeky sledge after shock missed goal
June 17, 2020
Ben Waterworth
FOX SPORTS
And when Tigers star Jack Riewoldt fell short when one of the biggest moments of Thursday night’s season re-opener arrived, Magpies captain Scott Pendlebury let him know all about it.
As the Collingwood-Richmond clash came to a strange yet thrilling conclusion, Riewoldt had an opportunity to goal for the Tigers with a set-shot kick. He was around 30m out on a 45-degree angle – seemingly regulation territory for a man who’s kicked 634 goals and won three Coleman Medals.
But Riewoldt’s kick, surprisingly, fell short, with Collingwood big man Darcy Cameron taking a mark on the goalline. Perhaps the fact Cameron’s grab was uncontested suggested Riewoldt’s teammates had full confidence he’d cover the distance.
The final siren sounded minutes later, with the Tigers and Pies locked at 5.6 (36) apiece – just the second draw in the two clubs’ long head-to-head history.
Riewoldt on Tuesday night revealed when the Tigers were setting up their zone to stop a Collingwood attacking foray, Pendlebury seized the moment to have a cheeky dig at 31-year-old Riewoldt.
“I had a bit of a chuckle. Scott Pendlebury was on the mark and he ribbed me straight away. He goes: ‘Those hips are gone, you’re getting a bit old,’” Riewoldt told Fox Footy’s AFL 360.
“It was disappointing to not kick the goal … it was a pretty weird night.”
Riewoldt provided some explanation as to why his kick failed to make the distance – and some of the ‘interesting’ social media feedback he’d received in the aftermath.
“I was so focused on dropping the ball well – which I did – and then I just forgot to kick it,” Riewoldt said.
With tongue-in-cheek, he added: “I’ve been getting some really great feedback on Instagram and Twitter, mainly on people that had multi-bets on me involving me kicking the goal. So I’ve been really appreciative of the support I’ve received since Thursday night.”
The Pies-Tigers clash received ample backlash for the lack of scoring, but Riewoldt said the game was an “anomaly” and that while both sides were structurally-sound defensively, they had some work to do offensively.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-scott-pendlebury-sledge-jack-riewoldt-missed-goal-afl-360-collingwood-vs-richmond/news-story/49cff8b69b06df1f5c9fec4540cb1a2f
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There’s a ‘question mark’ over Jack Riewoldt. Two former greats consider what’s next
June 19, 2020
David Zita
FOX SPORTS
Riewoldt was held goalless for the second week in a row on Thursday, as the premiers went down by 32 points to a dominant Hawthorn side at the MCG.
Speaking on Fox Footy’s First Crack after the game, King suggested that, based purely on an output point of view, a change could benefit the 31-year-old.
“Jack gets the ball on his smarts, he’s an incredible player, we love Jack,” King pointed out.
“Jack’s the most popular player in the AFL and no one loves him more than we do here at Fox Footy, but it’s drying up for Jack at the moment.
“I just wonder if there’s something else they can go to with Jack, will Damien Hardwick look at another role for Jack or pull another lever for Jack because, on tricks alone, he’s lost a bit of his weaponry.
“He’s clearly coming to the end of an unbelievable career, 31 years of age, 265-odd games. A guy that I probably thought would coast to 300, 15 games ago but it looks like it’s becoming harder now. He’s going through quicksand at the moment.
“This is not a whack on Jack, I’m not saying he’s finished or anything, there’s just a question mark.”
Premiership forward Cameron Mooney agreed with King that the three-time Coleman medallist was well down on his usual output, explaining from personal experience the toll footy takes on a key forward at the back-end of a career.
“It’s not near the Jack that we’ve expected over the past couple of years,” Mooney said.
“From experience, 31 (age), 200-odd games as a forward, you do start to slow down. When you do start to slow down and you haven’t got the tricks or the tricks aren’t working, how do you find the ball?
“He’s not a big power marker, he gets the ball on the lead or with his tricks. If that’s drying up, then you have to start worrying where are the goals going to come from? He’s kicking poorly, poorly for a Jack Riewoldt, he’s (normally) one of the most beautiful kicks in the AFL.”
King, a two-time premiership player for North Melbourne, said Riewoldt’s legacy and character is unquestioned, but Damien Hardwick may have a challenge on his hands in 2020.
“I know he kicked five n a Grand Final, I know he’s been a wonderful servant and an absolute top liner and he’ll be a hall of famer for both Richmond and the AFL,” King said.
“This is not a go at Jack, but right now he just needs something... his smarts have always got him goals, but the step’s not quite there, the ability to shake an opponent is not quite there.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/theres-a-question-mark-over-jack-riewoldt-two-former-greats-consider-whats-next/news-story/1252b6fc6e51fe276f2b4bb63aef1c09
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Move him to the wing/hhf.... :shh
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He needs better delivery ffs
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Jack Riewoldt
Kane Cornes
SEN
19 June 2020
“Jack Riewoldt is a concern. He looks banged up, he looks like he can’t move. He can’t score from 35 metres out directly in front. He looks frustrated.
“His cheap shot on Sicily in the second quarter was un-Riewoldt-like.
“I think there are some concerns with the forward line as well.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/06/19/the-five-concerns-for-richmond/
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Easy media day for Cornes after last night’s game. Investigative journalism at its best. Reckon he’d have a pre-school poster of the alphabet above his computer.
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I didn’t disagree with anything Cornes said.
If we aren’t playing good we deserve the criticism no matter who it’s from.
Like last year we need to turn it around. Thursday night was absolute rubbish from the whole team.
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No-one wins 22 games, in fact no-one has ever played 25 perfect games in a row.
We won a flag on the back of a half a dozen 7 goal belting.
Criticism of 1 bad loss is about as relevant as Kane Cornes
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I didn’t disagree with anything Cornes said.
If we aren’t playing good we deserve the criticism no matter who it’s from.
Like last year we need to turn it around. Thursday night was absolute rubbish from the whole team.
Well said.
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Lynch started last year like a busted VW beetle and everyone including Cornes was potting him. Then he grew into a Porsche
Reiwoldt has started this year like a busted VW beetle and everyone including Cornes is potting him. Then......
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Robbo: Star Tiger ‘lacking the motivation’ to play in season 2020
June 23, 2020
Matt Balmer
FOX SPORTS
So far this season, the three-time Coleman Medallist has managed just three goals, as the Tigers find themselves outside the top-eight after three rounds.
With the 31-year-old out of form, Tom Lynch has been forced to shoulder the load inside 50 for the Tigers.
“I think Jack’s lacking the motivation to play football at the moment,” Robinson explained said on Fox Footy’s AFL 360.
“I’ve thought that for about eight weeks, (from) conversations and interviews with Jack throughout that time, he is symbolic of the Tigers.
“Jack Riewoldt is a very gregarious figure, he’s up and about, he’s laughing. We’re not seeing that. He has lost his edge to play competitive football.
“He’d be thinking ‘nah, nah I’m alright’. He’s lost his edge and he’s not the only one. They’re getting beaten up in parts of the game.”
Champion Brisbane Lions forward Jonathan Brown outlined how a number of older key forwards across the competition were at risk of falling off a cliff in terms of their performance.
”The lack of team training, that effects key forwards the most,” he said on Fox Footy’s On The Couch.
“They rely on what goes on up the field. (Tom) Hawkins, (Jack) Riewoldt and (Josh) Kennedy are all in the danger zone, the cliff is coming.
“The cliff is at 30 years of age as a key forward and that is a troubling trend early on. I’m backing it in that sides are just not going as well with their ball movements.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-richmond-jack-riewoldt-mark-robinson-key-forwards-afl-goals-leading-goalkicker-coleman-medal/news-story/9699095129fdbf2b63bc14bfdfea7e10
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Caro on Footy Classified mentioned that Jack has done a lot of soul searching this week (as others have at Punt Rd) and she hopes with this week being the Maddie game and him being vice-captain that Jack will get himself up for the game.
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Dimma talking about Jack today:
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Hardwick was less concerned with triple Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt's form despite him kicking a total of three goals and averaging fewer than eight disposals.
"Once again, our ball movement will certainly help," he said.
"People are quick to jump on a champion's back – people forget he kicked five goals in the Grand Final, on the biggest stage on earth, so he's a very good player.
"The key forwards, in general, have been struggling throughout the League at the moment, so we're not too worried about it. The sky's certainly not falling down, from our point of view."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/456913/tigers-could-make-four-changes-dimma-scoffs-at-jack-attack)
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Lynch started last year like a busted VW beetle and everyone including Cornes was potting him. Then he grew into a Porsche
Reiwoldt has started this year like a busted VW beetle and everyone including Cornes is potting him. Then......
;D
Jack also mentioned before round 2 that he had dropped some bulk over the lockdown to prolong his career. That could be playing a part too. He may need a few weeks to readjust.
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Dimma made a good point there. Key forwards across the league in general have largely struggled this year.
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Dimma made a good point there. Key forwards across the league in general have largely struggled this year.
Cornes used statistical evidence to point out that some of the top key forwards around the league are indeed struggling.
“Here are the damning numbers for the key forwards through the first three games...
“Josh Kennedy and Jack Darling at West Coast have combined for just five goals.
“Tom Lynch and the out-of-form Jack Riewoldt have kicked just seven at Richmond.
“Coleman Medallist Jeremy Cameron and Jeremy Finlayson have kicked nine at GWS.
“Tex Walker and Darcy Fogarty at Adelaide just six.
“And Aaron Naughton, who started well last night before limping off injured, and new recruit Josh Bruce, who looks out of shape, have slotted just four between them for the Bulldogs.
“Coming into Round 4 GWS six-footer Harry Perryman was the Coleman Medal race leader with just eight. Sydney’s Tom Papley snagged four against the Dogs last night and is now on top with 10. Papley is 176 centimetres.
“What is going on with the key forwards in 2020? They used to be so valuable.”
There are a number of key forwards just out of the top few with five goals so far this season including North Melbourne’s Ben Brown, Giants star Cameron, Port Adelaide’s Charlie Dixon, Carlton’s Levi Casboult, and the King twins Max and Ben from St Kilda and Gold Coast respectively.
However, the overall scoreboard impact appears to be less this season considering nine of the top 10 goal kickers in 2019 were key forwards.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/06/26/what-has-happened-to-the-afls-key-forwards/
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Jack Riewoldt and the Tigers are in a funk. Can they snap out of it?
AFL 360 host Mark Robinson believes Richmond star Jack Riewoldt's slump goes down to his lack of motivation ...
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/jack-riewoldt-and-the-tigers-are-in-a-funk-can-they-snap-out-of-it/news-story/8cec47e618f0520c9e527aff7a808bc3
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Admittedly quiet over the first three rounds, Jack Riewoldt has invited scrutiny because of the lofty standards he has set for himself over the past few years. It's simplistic to say his poor form was a reason for the Tigers' early season slip but it also isn't totally inaccurate. He's a barometer. On Saturday against the Saints he was down on his usual input again but at least seemed involved more, not anonymous.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fearless-saints-upset-flailing-richmond-20200627-p556tq.html)
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Star ‘second-guessing’ AFL hub move
James McKern
Herald-Sun
8 July 2020
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has opened up on the difficulties of AFL hub life after departing Melbourne and leaving behind his wife and one-year-old daughter.
The Tigers left Victoria on Monday and headed to Queensland where they’ll be stationed for their next five games along with five other Victorian clubs.
Fellow Tigers stars Bachar Houli and Shane Edwards opted not to join the team in the hub due to family commitments and the decision to stay with the team is one Riewoldt says he is now second guessing.
Victorian clubs got out of the state a day before the New South Wales and Victorian border was closed with Melbourne then entering stage three restrictions for six weeks after the latest spike in coronavirus cases.
“I won’t lie, I probably have second guessed a little bit coming up here,” the 31-year-old admitted.
“Leaving yesterday was really tough obviously with Poppy only being very young and Carly as well just leaving her at home and knowing what she has to go through by herself as a single parent, there’s certainly a weight on my shoulders about that.
“It’s the decision we came to together but like everything in this current climate it shifts hourly and unfortunately we find ourselves in a position where for the next six weeks in Victoria we’re going back to the lockdown.
“Unfortunately there isn’t much I can do up here at the moment bar just try and organise things as much as I can from afar.”
Riewoldt said having to say goodbye to his wife and daughter was unbelievably difficult and a moment that will continue to weigh on him.
“I cried like a baby, which unashamedly it’s the one thing I’m going to struggle with more than anything else,” he said.
“I think over the whole period here I’ll constantly ask myself ‘Why am I here? What am I actually doing leaving my young family to come up here and play a game?’
“But the club has given me so much over my career that I’m truly indebted to them and that’s why I’m here doing my bit for my football club while trying to do my bit for my family too.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-secondguessing-hub-life-after-leaving-family-behind/news-story/b4e0217700509dee59e25d5abdedcc33
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While understand what Jack is saying and how hard it is. And I do feel for him
This is not something new.
Others in the community have been dealing with this since March/April
There are a lot of FIFO people in the mine industry who are stuck in WA for example and haven't been able to get home for months to see their wives, partners, kids.
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Jack making it all about him again. What a surprise
This sort of attitude will bring down the whole group.
I wish he’d just shut the hell up
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wowee, it's amazing how quickly people jump on our own players.
Jack was asked a question and he answered honestly.
All he said was that he is concerned about his young family. Is that so bad? He never said that he feels hard done by or worse off than anyone else.
People always complain about players being 'robots' in the media, but as soon as they show personality or speak their mind, they get jumped on.
Some people must live perfect lives the way they criticise others....
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wowee, it's amazing how quickly people jump on our own players.
Jack was asked a question and he answered honestly.
All he said was that he is concerned about his young family. Is that so bad? He never said that he feels hard done by or worse off than anyone else.
People always complain about players being 'robots' in the media, but as soon as they show personality or speak their mind, they get jumped on.
Some people must live perfect lives the way they criticise others....
Compare his attitude to Hardwick who has left his wife and 3 kids at home. Dimma almost certainly has reservations also but his attitude is lets get up to Gold Coast and make the most of it. Thats leadership - putting his personal circumstances and feelings aside to help the mindset of the whole team. Jack is being honest but it won't be helping. His leadership from the time Hubs were mentioned as a possibility has been poor.
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OK, let's just force players to tow the party line and say exactly what is expected at all times, even during unprecedented pandemics.
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wowee, it's amazing how quickly people jump on our own players.
Jack was asked a question and he answered honestly.
All he said was that he is concerned about his young family. Is that so bad? He never said that he feels hard done by or worse off than anyone else.
People always complain about players being 'robots' in the media, but as soon as they show personality or speak their mind, they get jumped on.
Some people must live perfect lives the way they criticise others....
Compare his attitude to Hardwick who has left his wife and 3 kids at home. Dimma almost certainly has reservations also but his attitude is lets get up to Gold Coast and make the most of it. Thats leadership - putting his personal circumstances and feelings aside to help the mindset of the whole team. Jack is being honest but it won't be helping. His leadership from the time Hubs were mentioned as a possibility has been poor.
MASSIVE difference between three teenage kids on the one hand and a 12 month old being left with a pregnant wife and no family in the same State on the other.
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wowee, it's amazing how quickly people jump on our own players.
Jack was asked a question and he answered honestly.
All he said was that he is concerned about his young family. Is that so bad? He never said that he feels hard done by or worse off than anyone else.
People always complain about players being 'robots' in the media, but as soon as they show personality or speak their mind, they get jumped on.
Some people must live perfect lives the way they criticise others....
Compare his attitude to Hardwick who has left his wife and 3 kids at home. Dimma almost certainly has reservations also but his attitude is lets get up to Gold Coast and make the most of it. Thats leadership - putting his personal circumstances and feelings aside to help the mindset of the whole team. Jack is being honest but it won't be helping. His leadership from the time Hubs were mentioned as a possibility has been poor.
MASSIVE difference between three teenage kids on the one hand and a 12 month old being left with a pregnant wife and no family in the same State on the other.
100%
We have 3 kids. 6, 3 and 7m.
I always get home ASAP to help my fiance out. Having the kids is the hardest job by a mile. Work is a holiday.
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Tim Watson's advice for Jack Riewoldt and all players entering hubs
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
8 July 2020
Tim Watson believes senior players who take a negative mindset into the quarantine hubs will have a large impact on the performance of the group as a whole.
While Watson has no issues whatsoever with Riewoldt taking that stance, he hopes the star forward has a positive mindset around the younger players.
“I don’t have an issue with anything Jack had to say. I think Jack is just being brutally honest about his feelings at the moment and he still went up there,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.
“The only thing I would say about that … we know about the hub life from other clubs and we heard Jarrad Schofield, one of the assistants at Port Adelaide, saying how it significantly helped Port because of the attitude they had and they embraced the life and it gifted the opportunity to bond together as a group of players like they wouldn’t have been able to do.
“So the only thing I would say to Jack about his attitude is how he can influence other players with his attitude.
“It’s fine that Jack has that feeling, but it’s how he conducts himself while he’s there in that hub that has the potential to take the players in one direction or another direction because he’s one of the senior and more mature players.”
Garry Lyon agreed saying Riewoldt would be well aware of what he needs to be in front of the group.
“I don’t have one issue with it. He’s opening up, he’s doing a media interview, he’s giving an honest insight into his mindset and putting it out there knowing he’ll be judged by some,” he said.
“What he then delivers to his playing group in private is a whole different situation and he’d probably say the same thing.
“’Look it’s hard and I’ve struggled and I’ve had tears and I’m going to miss my kids, but let me tell you this right now I’m here and committed and let’s make the most of it’.”
Jack’s cousin Nick Riewoldt also spoke on AFL 360 and stated the importance of players remaining positive and attacking the hub period with an opportunistic mindset.
“You’re looking for it and as soon as you get a whiff of any of that sentiment – this might be a bridge too far – you’re all over it because it becomes infectious. Misery loves company,” Riewoldt said.
“There is an opportunity here for a team that’s able to, because I don’t think we’ve ever had a season where the mind is such an important weapon as it is currently, so if you are able to capture that possibility, opportunity mindset – ‘what is possible for us? If we’re the only ones who take a positive mindset to this six-week period, we could achieve something remarkable’.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/07/07/tim-watsons-advice-for-jack-riewoldt-and-all-players-entering-hubs/
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Spot on Whispy - so much for all the leadership work the club has done in the last few years - obviously Jacky wasn't really buying in
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Lol.
Yes, such terrible leadership speaking honestly about his concern for his family during a pandemic!
Off with his head!
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Knighter I don’t know if you have read anything about our ‘17 flag but a large part of our success that year was the players adopting a mindset of being open, honest and “vulnerable” around each other.
The old school notion of always being a tough guy and showing no emotion is kinda dated man...
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Knighter I don’t know if you have read anything about our ‘17 flag but a large part of our success that year was the players adopting a mindset of being open, honest and “vulnerable” around each other.
The old school notion of always being a tough guy and showing no emotion is kinda dated man...
Yeh I get that and that’s fine when everyone is in a positive mindset it’s easy to adopt. I stand by my view though that as VC Riewoldt needs to be projecting a positive attitude to everyone In the hub to ensure his teammates feel similarly. His body language and words are the complete opposite and I don’t see that from other leaders at the club. Under pressure people often revert to type and we are seeing that with Jack
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OK, let's just force players to tow the party line and say exactly what is expected at all times, even during unprecedented pandemics.
That’s a leaders job. The leader falls apart and it gives an excuse for everyone to. Compare the Dimma interview on 360 the night before with Jacks. They are chalk and cheese. I would be surprised if the club hasn’t spoken to Jack today and told him to be more positive or drop his media gigs
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wowee, it's amazing how quickly people jump on our own players.
Jack was asked a question and he answered honestly.
All he said was that he is concerned about his young family. Is that so bad? He never said that he feels hard done by or worse off than anyone else.
People always complain about players being 'robots' in the media, but as soon as they show personality or speak their mind, they get jumped on.
Some people must live perfect lives the way they criticise others....
Willy, I think you reply was in part directed at my comments
I wasn't trying to be critical of Jack, I actually applaud him being so open and I really do feel for him. It would be bloody tough. I have watched the interview in full and it was easy to see he simply misses his wife and little girl
But people have being going through what he is going through since the pandemic started. Families being apart for extended periods is just another harsh reality of this cruel virus.
AFL360 and the media are reporting it as something that is just happening to AFL players because of the hubs. It isn't and that was the point I was trying to make; albeit probably not as well as I could have.
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Robbo: AFL players need compassion and support, not cheap shots from the outer.
Whacking AFL players is becoming an obsession and it's wrong. When Richmond's Jack Riewoldt spoke his truth on AFL 360 on Tuesday night, about how he cried as he departed Melbourne for hub land, the response from some people was heartless.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/robbo-afl-players-need-compassion-and-support-not-cheap-shots-from-the-outer/news-story/96446945fcebccdcf3d2ef940273b5bf
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'Absolutely hammered': Tearful star warned
By Tim Elbra
Nine
9 July 2020
Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt has set himself up for major backlash by revealing deep misgivings about joining a Gold Coast hub, AFL great Matthew Lloyd says.
Riewoldt admitted that he cried when farewelling his wife and one-year-old daughter and said that he would be second-guessing his decision to leave his family throughout his time in Queensland. The Tigers were forced out by Victoria's new COVID-19 crackdown, along with the state's nine other clubs.
Lloyd said that Riewoldt had given his critics immediate ammunition if he failed to aim up while playing out of the hub. Richmond sit 11th on the ladder and must revive their premiership defence with a list beset by injuries and hub withdrawals.
"We all love the honesty of players and they sort of give us something and we whack them down a little bit," Lloyd said on Footy Classified.
"But I think what will happen ... we saw with [West Coast coach] Adam Simpson, where he spoke about, 'We want an end date or we're going home'; and because his team didn't play well, got absolutely hammered.
"I think [that will be] the case possibly with Jack Riewoldt. The point he made, 'Why am I here? I'm going to keep asking that question'.
"If Jack Riewoldt doesn't perform, I think that interview will be played a little bit, saying, 'Is his heart in it? Did he want to be there?'"
Columnist Caroline Wilson said that Riewoldt's hub comments may have been tone deaf given the current lock-down situation in Victoria, amid spiralling coronavirus numbers.
"I love the honesty too, that's what Richmond built a premiership on, admitting their vulnerabilities," Wilson said on Footy Classified.
"But I think in a week when Victorians are locked up in housing commission flats and can't leave, I think it was unfortunate that he talked about a shoebox of a room and a window that was very small."
Collingwood president Eddie McGuire said that Riewoldt, who admitted he "cried like a baby" while leaving his family, was "half jocular and sending things up" during the contentious interview.
"But what he has to be careful in saying that, Jack, is exactly as you (Wilson) said: we are seeing people being locked up, we are seeing jobs going off a cliff," McGuire said.
"And when players say, 'I don't even know why I'm doing it', there's a pretty easy solution for it and that is when you go into a depression, as we're heading into ... in the old days when the footballers played, they played with broken arms rather than give up their spot and that's where people [don't accept complaints].
"Can I just say this: 750 other players have been pretty good in this."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/jack-riewoldt-hub-concerns-kane-cornes-matthew-lloyd-backlash-warning/e691e235-b7c0-4838-a71e-771c2d321a89
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Bloody hell, he only said he had misgivings about leaving his wife and kid behind...
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I am on the side that it was a great thing for Jack to be open and honest on his feelings on being in the hub and so far away from his wife and family.
It is also a great thing for him to openly show some feelings as a leader. Doing it this way he can make it alright for any of the younger less inexperienced players to voice their own feelings and for Jack to offer advice or get the right people to talk to the younger player.
Proof will be in the performance of the team over the coming 6 weeks.
I fully expect the team to be up and about over that time frame
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Jack will take over as captain while Cotch is out injured.
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Tigers star backs more games in AFL hubs
Jason Phelan
theRoar.com.au
10 July 2020
Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt is open to the idea of playing more games with shorter turnarounds while in an AFL hub, but the two-time premiership star says the Tigers might need to call for reinforcements.
The move, possibly resulting in teams playing games off four-day breaks, gathered momentum on Thursday as league officials pondered the ramifications of Victoria’s worsening COVID-19 outlook.
The reigning premiers and the other nine Victorian teams scrambled to leave the state early this week as the AFL sought to overcome the latest roadblock of the troubled season.
Just days after arriving in the Queensland hub, with the Tigers to isolate for 14 days, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews reintroduced strict lockdown measures.
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan had promised players they would be away for a maximum of 32 days.
The league is contemplating cramming more games into that period to give greater flexibility should the season suffer further coronavirus interruptions.
“There is obviously a lot of water to go under the bridge but, in principle, I think we would beokay with playing games off four or five-day breaks,” Riewoldt told his Balls and Bumpers podcast.
“Maybe after three in a row, you might start to look for the end of the tunnel.
“I think there are a few complexities to it … we were asked to bring a smaller list up here because more people on the ground is more cost.
“Whilst trying to do the right thing, we have left some players back in Melbourne and two of those players are Bachar Houli and Shane Edwards, then we’ve got a few injured guys.
“We’d have to ask the question about getting guys up here, but we have got pretty limited facilities and how do they fit in with that?
“Ground availability is another one and can grounds withstand playing games of footy nearly every second day?”
Riewoldt, who left his infant daughter and wife in Melbourne, believed the league could broker a new deal with the clubs to extend their stay away from home if it meant saving the season.
“In a season that’s already running out of time, it might be the most sensible thing to keep the players up here and try to knock over as many games as you can,” he said.
“It’s pretty fluid.”
https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/07/10/tigers-star-backs-more-games-in-afl-hubs/
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Jack will take over as captain while Cotch is out injured.
Knighter won’t be happy.....
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Of those who have had 10+ shots at goal, Jack this year is the 7th least accurate at 45%.
Player Club Games Goals Behinds Shots Shot Accuracy%
1. Jordan De Goey Collingwood 5 2 8 10 20
2. Hugh McCluggage Brisbane 6 3 9 12 25
3. Aaron Hall North Melb 5 3 7 10 30
4. Bayley Fritsch Melbourne 4 4 7 11 36.4
5. Lincoln McCarthy Brisbane 6 4 6 10 40
6. Lachie Neale Brisbane 6 7 9 16 43.8
7. Jack Riewoldt Richmond 5 5 6 11 45.5
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-afls-top-10-most-accurate-and-inaccurate-goalkickers-so-far-this-season-42671/
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That kick that fell short was pretty woeful
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Get on with it Jack to much moaning and whingeing for me and media crap.
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Is playing like an old man I couldn’t be stuffed woeful footy.
He’s not playing as a leader and should not be captain.
Needs to have a good hard look at himself. He’s been terrible so far this year.
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Looking more and more finished to me.
Worst is his efforts to tackle and check blokes. Couldn't knock a chicken off a fence on a windy day...
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To much media for me moaning.
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Jack's back
Tom Lynch started the onslaught and Jack Riewoldt finished it. The Tigers got plenty out of the victory, but maybe nothing moreso than the form of their two power forwards. Lynch kicked two quickly in the first quarter and then out-bodied his opponent Harris Andrews to kick a third in the second. Riewoldt, who had kicked just nine goals in the nine previous weeks should get a huge confidence boost from his haul of four. He took marks on the lead against a good opponent in Darcy Gardiner and kicked another from good forward pressure where he pinged Lions debutant Jack Payne for holding the ball.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/480616/kings-of-the-jungle-tigers-tame-wasteful-lions-leap-up-to-third)
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Mick Malthouse fears the cliff is close for Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt
Glenn Valencich
7News
5 August 2020 3:30 pm
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick reckoned “it was a matter of time” before Jack Riewoldt kicked his first bag of the restart, four goals on Tuesday night contributing to a 41-point AFL win over Brisbane.
Mick Malthouse, however, believes the key forward remains “inches off the edge of the cliff” after impressing in a game that simply played into his hands.
Riewoldt had 10 touches and took four marks - all of them inside 50 - as he combined with Tom Lynch, who kicked three goals, to overpower the Lions.
“They’ve been training incredibly well and we only knew it was a matter of time,” Hardwick said of the duo.
“Harris Andrews is probably the best defender in the land and I thought our guys had a really good duel with him and they probably came out on top.
“Our boys rose to the challenge. They’ve been putting in a hell of a lot of hard work and finally got the outcome we’re looking for.”
Much has been made of both players’ form as numerous key forwards struggle in the shorter games, with the 31-year-old Riewoldt particularly under the pump.
The triple Coleman medallist had kicked one goal in each of the six games prior to facing the Lions without bursting out for more.
Despite leading all players with his four majors against Brisbane, Riewoldt was unable to convince Malthouse that brighter days are ahead.
“I reckon I know players and I see Jack as inches off the edge of the cliff,” the triple premiership coach said on ABC radio.
“Because one of the things he had was a bit of toe over the first five (metres). He had jumping power.
“No doubt (about his performance) tonight, he’s kicked four goals. I see Jack at the moment - he’s frightfully slow. He’s not going to get quicker.
“His body has been punished for... you know, he’s been a key position player for 12 or 13 years and that takes its toll. Not many players can lose pace and still be as effective.”
Malthouse believes Riewoldt’s diminishing returns can be pinned on his physical capabilities failing to meet the levels required by certain match-ups.
“Now the other thing about Jack Riewoldt, he’s not 6-foot-6. You know, he’s that medium-to-tall player,” Malthouse said.
“I think it’s been fantastic that he’s kicked four goals but I don’t think he’s going to get the same opportunity against other sides. Lynch will still kick big goals and I think their mediums will kick goals.
“I think Jack’s a spiritual leader down there. I think he’s, you know, he’s just a great bloke, Jack. I hope I’m wrong, but I think the cliff is getting very, very close.
“If they meet a bigger-bodied side that’s gonna push the ball out and about and you have to fight for your football 15 metres away, Jack won’t get to it. If it gets put on top of his head, it may (work out for Riewoldt).”
Riewoldt will turn 32 in October, while 2021 will be his 15th AFL season.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouse-fears-the-cliff-is-close-for-richmond-forward-jack-riewoldt--c-1218356
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Tom Morris once again thinks so (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Riewoldt delivers low blow
Foxsports
8 August 2020
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt is facing a Match Review sanction and a potential suspension after connecting with a low blow on Port Adelaide’s Tom Jonas.
The incident took place late in the first quarter of the Power’s win on Saturday afternoon.
As the ball spilt out of a contest between the two players and rolled towards the goals, Jonas kept his feet and went after it, but went to ground after Riewoldt hit out with his left arm and collected the Port captain in the genitalia.
Jonas got up and continued on, but was in the sort of pain that would be familiar to any man who has been hit below the belt.
Senior Foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris predicted the incident would come under scrutiny from Match Review Officer Michael Christian.
“Tom Jonas wasn’t badly hurt, but this could easily be classified as low impact given the Port captain went to ground,” Morris said on Fox Footy.
“And if it is low impact, Riewoldt will get a week because it will be graded as intentional and to the groin, which equals a one match suspension.
“The key thing to understand is that there are three categories: head, body and groin. Groin incidents are graded the same as head incidents under the classification table.
“Look ahead, Richmond could reasonably argue the force did not constitute a striking charge, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out regardless. We might need to see some more camera angles.”
It has been a tumultuous 48 hours for the Tigers with multiple players, including Riewoldt, involved in groping incidents which have been condemned by the AFL.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-jack-riewoldt-richmond-low-blow-tom-jonas-video-hit-below-the-belt-genitalia-port-adelaide-match-review/news-story/f9387fb49c75a10a181b2341ef467737
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Didn't see crap myself.
Sounds like more witch hunt
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Jack has been fined.
source: Ch7
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Jack’s Back – Riewoldt bags seven goals in five days
Richmond spearhead Jack Riewtoldt has kicked more goals in a week than he did in two months, while another Tasmanian’s goal haul may have earned him a contract extension.
https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-kicks-himself-back-into-form-for-the-richmond-tigers/news-story/418ee6124a7c934320a1d208d3863489
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Riewoldt also opened up about hub life in Queensland. The Tigers have been making headlines for their off-field demands, with many players having wives and partners and children in the hub with them. Some players had initially been reluctant to uproot for what now shapes as the rest of the season.
"There might be a bit of sugar on those stories. We are really enjoying it. We feel like we have got our own little hub which was said to be the crappy place to go and stay," Riewoldt said.
"We really liked it and the staff there have been great to us and it has become the second Punt Road for us. We really enjoy it, we don't have to move too far, we have got our own gyms. We think that is a real advantage for us and we enjoy being together."
Riewoldt, after a testing start to life outside of Melbourne, has booted nine goals in his past three matches, including two against the Suns. He also took eight marks.
"I probably struggled a bit to adjust to hub life, being away from home and having a lot of things go through my head," he said.
"I feel really comfortable where I am at at the moment and clearly as a forward you rely a bit on supply. It's just good to get on the scoreboard and get up the ground and take a few marks. Tonight was probably my best game in the air. That's what I pride myself on."
The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cheap-shot-tiger-forward-faces-scrutiny-for-stomach-punch-20200817-p55mjh.html)
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Was really impressed in helping us steady the ship in the 3rd quarter. His days of bagging 50 in a season might be over but I would always want a fit Riewoldt in the team if we’re pushing for a flag
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Was really impressed in helping us steady the ship in the 3rd quarter. His days of bagging 50 in a season might be over but I would always want a fit Riewoldt in the team if we’re pushing for a flag
He’s averaged 4 shots per match and 3 goals per game the past 3 weeks. I reckon he can still kick 50 a year
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Was really impressed in helping us steady the ship in the 3rd quarter. His days of bagging 50 in a season might be over but I would always want a fit Riewoldt in the team if we’re pushing for a flag
He’s averaged 4 shots per match and 3 goals per game the past 3 weeks. I reckon he can still kick 50 a year
Might take him half a year to get going but that's fine by me.
Desperately hoping he gets to 300/700.
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Jason Dunstall rips into Jack Riewoldt over "disrepectful" shot.
source: Foxsports article
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Jack becomes an AFL life member tonight (300 AFL sanctioned matches).
278* premiership games
19 preseason games
1 state of origin match
2 international rules matches
:clapping
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GO JACK!!!!!
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Jack just reminded everyone what a superstar he is and that he can still kick a bag. Both his 4 goal hauls have been against top 4 sides (Brisbane & Geelong).
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Jack just reminded everyone what a superstar he is and that he can still kick a bag. Both his 4 goal hauls have been against top 4 sides (Brisbane & Geelong).
Stepped it up especially when Lynch went down :cheers
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Best game of the season
We needed him to stand up and he did
Led from the front
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Was really impressed in helping us steady the ship in the 3rd quarter. His days of bagging 50 in a season might be over but I would always want a fit Riewoldt in the team if we’re pushing for a flag
He’s averaged 4 shots per match and 3 goals per game the past 3 weeks. I reckon he can still kick 50 a year
Just sayn
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Yeh he’s done........fools
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Yeh he’s done........fools
Nothing better than when a great throws the eggs back in our face.
:rollin
He’s not at his best but he showed us he’s still got it :clapping
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The champions always rise to the occasion! Excellent from Jack tonight. The kick that didn’t make the distance is a long forgiven now
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‘Not bad for a bloke who was supposed to retire’: Jack Riewoldt fires back at Mick Malthouse
Ben Waterworth
News.com.au
September 12, 2020
And they say the players don’t read newspapers.
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has hit back at AFL legend Mick Malthouse in the wake of his starring performance in one of his side’s most important wins of 2020 yet.
Malthouse last month urged Riewoldt, 31, to “consider going out on a high” and retire at season’s end.
Writing for the Herald Sun, Malthouse claimed Riewoldt had “lost power in his leap”, adding: “He’s lost a couple of metres with his kick and there’s a hint that he’s lost pace as he is no longer a tackling player.”
But against Geelong on Friday night, Riewoldt was one of the most dangerous and influential players on the ground, booting four goals from 10 disposals, six marks (four inside 50) and seven score involvements to help Richmond record a 26-point victory and surge into the top four.
The dual premiership Tiger even leapt high into the Gold Coast sky, pulling down a quintessential Riewoldt screamer.
Speaking to Fox Footy post-game, Riewoldt couldn’t help but have a passing dig at Malthouse.
“I’m pleased with how I’m going,” Riewoldt said. “To clunk a couple tonight is good.
“Not bad for a bloke who was supposed to retire, according to Mick Malthouse, at the end of the season.
“It’s all part of the journey. I’m enjoying playing my football, I’m loving being up here in Queensland. I’m really looking forward to seeing my family on Tuesday, which is pretty exciting.”
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said Riewoldt had started to hit form at the right time of the season.
“His ability to halve contests and not get out-marked, especially (on Friday night), I thought he was outstanding,” Hardwick told reporters.
“His leap has come back. He did have that knee injury earlier in the year, which probably limited him a little bit. But we’re starting to go see him get back to his best form where he jumps at the ball and uses the strength in his game. He is such a formidable player and has been for a long period of time.
“It’s important he plays his best football now.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/not-bad-for-a-bloke-who-was-supposed-to-retire-jack-riewoldt-fires-back-at-mick-malthouse/news-story/ec1247eac8a7cca71420aba70ee713f0
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Jumping Jack's back to paint Brisbane yellow and black
By Peter Ryan
The Age
September 30, 2020
Having been challenged on and off the field like never before in 2020, Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt is ready to be the main man up forward again in Friday night's qualifying final against the Brisbane Lions as the Tigers chase back-to-back flags for the first time since 1973-74.
After helping him fight through a testing patch of poor form early in 2020 that saw his future questioned externally, Richmond are relying once again on Riewoldt to deliver with Tom Lynch failing to overcome a hamstring injury in time to play.
The gregarious 31-year-old, who was Richmond's leading goalkicker for nine consecutive seasons before Lynch claimed the award last season, led the Tigers to a premiership in 2017 as the solo key forward before adding another flag to his collection with Lynch by his side in 2019.
He starred in last year's grand final kicking five goals after busting the game open with three majors in the second quarter, just reward for holding the Tigers' forward-line together in the 10 years before Lynch arrived.
However Riewoldt's confidence was temporarily shaken midway through 2020 when he kicked just six goals in the first eight games after the season restart and his impact dropped.
All of a sudden he was away from his young family in the Gold Coast hub and under form pressure for the first time in a decade. And he couldn't ignore the reality that he needed to lift.
"It's one of the first times I have really been challenged for a length of time for not playing as well as I would like," Riewoldt said.
"I think my form reflected a little bit of how we were going and we weren't playing as well as we would have liked. I accept responsibility for that.
"It's a little bit of the chicken and the egg: do you wait for the side to play well before you play well or do you start playing well and make the side play well?"
Riewoldt wasn't alone in his struggles with Lynch also battling to find his rhythm after an excellent opening season at his new club where he played every match and kicked 63 goals.
Entering the round 10 clash against the Brisbane Lions they had kicked a combined tally of 22 goals for the season and any notion they had time to wait had disappeared.
"[We] probably found ourselves in a little bit of a rut really of just not playing the way we wanted to play," Riewoldt said.
The Tigers vice-captain conceded he began searching for form as a result and that wasn't the answer.
It was only when he returned to basics that he regained the flow that has made him a three-time All-Australian and triple winner of the Coleman Medal.
"It's pretty simple for me, grab a bag and jump on a coaches back. That repetition gets you back into the position of playing your best footy," Riewoldt said.
As did bouncing theories off his premiership teammate about how they could both overcome their malaise with Lynch becoming more overtly aggressive while Riewoldt rediscovered his fanatical leap at the ball.
They combined to kick seven goals against the Lions in round 10 and their seasons rebooted.
"It's always great when you have got someone else to help you work through that," Riewoldt said.
As he heads into his 12th final with All-Australian defender Harris Andrews as his likely opponent he knows the spotlight will fall, as it has before, on his shoulders.
Mabior Chol, playing in his first final, is likely to fill Lynch's role while Josh Caddy will need to bring his usual rambunctious energy to the match but it's testament to the Tigers' depth that such names can step into the void alongside a player as experienced and successful as Riewoldt.
So with confidence restored Riewoldt is more than happy to lead the way having kicked at least one goal in each of his past 14 matches and kicking six in the final two rounds to draw level with Lynch at the top of the Tigers' goalkicking table with 28 apiece.
"I feel like I have found some form. I feel like I am fit and excited about my role again and have really enjoyed playing," Riewoldt said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jumping-jack-riewoldt-s-back-to-paint-brisbane-yellow-and-black-20200929-p560bq.html
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Jack Riewoldt
Kicked a couple of goals and had chances for a couple more but misfired. Considering Lynch’s absence, he went pretty well given the enormity of the task he was presented with. He did drop a few sitters that he normally eats up.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-second-qualifying-final-reviews-stats-tigers-best-and-worst-players/news-story/156df1b76297836ac1f12af8237ff86c)
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Jack Riewoldt
Riewoldt flew for a number of marks early, but was largely quiet for the match. A main highlight came when he assisted Dan Rioli with a smart handball to get the Tigers a goal.
Rating: 3
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-st-kilda-second-semi-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/afdeaa6b7f13cced41d21c91e03b900e)
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Footy Classified questioned Jack's form or lack of it this year.
2019 2020
Disposals 12.1 8.3
Marks 5.4 3.8
F50s 3.0 2.2
Goals 2.3 1.6
Score Inv. 6.6 3.7
Cornes said Jack has been flying under the radar due to Richmond's success. Lloyd said Jack is leaping but he can't get enough off the ground.
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He got double/triple teamed against Brisbane and against st kilda he did what he needed to do. Be dangerous enough so the defender couldn’t leave him and 3rd man up spoil lynch. Anyone who thinks he gave a 3/10 performance has NFI
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Jack flies above stats, says Hardwick
SAM LANDSBERGER
The Australian
OCTOBER 15, 2020
Richmond says Jack Riewoldt’s aerial strength trumps the stats sheet, with coach Damien Hardwick giving his scoreless spearhead’s semi-final performance a tick.
Riewoldt, 31, warmed up for Friday night’s preliminary final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval with just four disposals and his first goalless game since round three.
Barring two games where Riewoldt suffered an injury in the first 15 minutes, he has never had fewer disposals in his 281-game career.
But Hardwick said Riewoldt’s influence went underappreciated by those outside the club as the best team of this year prepares to host the best team of the past four years for a place in the grand final.
“It’s a measure of how we measure his game. The stats sheet will say that he’s quiet, but he didn’t get beaten in any marking contests, he brought the ball to ground really well,” Hardwick said.
“A lot of people won’t see what he does for our side and how he does operate — but we do. That’s why he gets a game for us every week and that’s why he’s one of our most important players.
“Everyone likes to be kicking goals, but the fact of the matter is Jack plays his role and it’s really valuable every week.”
Riewoldt neutralised the three one-on-one marking contests he was involved in against St Kilda.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/jack-flies-above-stats-says-hardwick/news-story/4bf50c1fdd825b23a95a9407750bab48
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Always lifts in big games wouldn't suprise me this week media on his back.
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Jack's form was questioned during both the 2017 & 2019 final series as well and he responded. Touchwood he does again tomorrow night :pray. You can never rule out a champion.
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Jack's form was questioned during both the 2017 & 2019 final series as well and he responded. Touchwood he does again tomorrow night :pray. You can never rule out a champion.
:clapping
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It probably won't show up in the stats but I thought Jack played his role brilliantly tonight. Was able to crash packs when outnumbered and bring the ball to ground. Shut up the baggers in the media once again.
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It probably won't show up in the stats but I thought Jack played his role brilliantly tonight. Was able to crash packs when outnumbered and bring the ball to ground. Shut up the baggers in the media once again.
Spot on
Thought he was great tonight, last quarter in particular
He made contests forward of centre which allowed Nank to set up down back
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It probably won't show up in the stats but I thought Jack played his role brilliantly tonight. Was able to crash packs when outnumbered and bring the ball to ground. Shut up the baggers in the media once again.
Spot on
Thought he was great tonight, last quarter in particular
He made contests forward of centre which allowed Nank to set up down back
Sometimes he was competing against 3 or four opponents.
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That last point was smart thinking. Outside his range especially to be accurate he knew just a point was vital.
Smart footballer Jack
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That last point was smart thinking. Outside his range especially to be accurate he knew just a point was vital.
Smart footballer Jack
Eased my nerves a little knowing we couldn’t be beaten with a goal.
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Jack has got the smartest footy brain in the afl one step ahead of everybody reads the play so well.
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Jack Riewoldt
Just the one goal and no marks for the game. Definitely not the best game for him or Tom Lynch, but they did bring the ball to ground as they had to.
Rating: 5
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
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Damien Hardwick issued a warning to critics of two-time premiership-winning forward Jack Riewoldt.
After being held goalless and restricted to two kicks in the semi-final win over St Kilda, Riewoldt was marginally better against the Power, notching an early major among his six kicks.
In 2017 Riewoldt was relatively quiet in the preliminary final against GWS before having a day out in the decider against Adelaide.
Last year he was held goalless against Geelong, a week before slaughtering the Giants with five majors on grand final day.
If history and Hardwick are good judges, "Jumping Jack" could be on next Saturday.
"Jack was one-versus-two, one-versus-three a lot of times, as was Tom [Lynch]," Hardwick said of his two spearheads' travails against Port.
"We've seen this last year where Jack was playing a reasonable brand of footy, then dominated in the biggest game on the biggest stage.
"Write him off at your own peril."
Source: The Age (https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/hardwick-hails-his-grand-final-bound-tigers-as-the-best-yet-20201017-p565z7.html)
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Tigers back Jack Riewoldt to fire in AFL Grand Final
ESPN
20 October 2020
Richmond forward Tom Lynch says those doubting teammate Jack Riewoldt's ability to influence Saturday's AFL Grand Final only need to remember last year's decider.
Riewoldt hasn't had more than six disposals in any of the Tigers' three finals on the way to the Gabba premiership clash against Geelong.
The 31-year-old, who booted four goals against the Cats in round 17 this year, went goalless in the semifinal win over St Kilda and could only manage one major in last week's preliminary final victory against Port Adelaide.
Lynch is far from concerned about his forward partner's form, saying the stats sheet is not reflective of his influence on the game.
He also made sure to point out the two-time premiership winner and three-time Coleman medallist delivered when it mattered in last year's Grand Final win over GWS.
"He kicked five last year in the Grand Final," Lynch said.
"If he did that again it'd be nice.
"But, no, Jack's had a really good year and he was super on the weekend.
"Just his contest, he was outnumbered a lot and brought the ball to ground. I thought he played a really good game on the weekend."
Lynch has also praised Riewoldt's support and influence on him since his arrival at Tigerland in 2018, saying he and captain Trent Cotchin highlight the selflessness which has been a cornerstone of Richmond's success in recent years.
"Jack's been amazing for me. Ever since I've walked in the footy club he's just been massive support for me I couldn't thank him enough," Lynch said.
"He's just a massive team player.
"He's obviously a three-time leading goalkicker, tells me that every now and again, but he's all about the team and you know that he'll do anything he can for the team.
"Just shows you that the highest profile players, they care about the team and that's what gets results."
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/30150300/afl-grand-final-richmond-tigers-back-jack-riewoldt-fire-decider
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Jack Riewoldt – 4
Not often sighted in the opening half, battling against Lachie Henderson, and was even forced to the ruck as the side juggled the absence of Nick Vlastuin. Was clever with limited ball and put the icing on the cake with a stunning drop punt from the boundary with two minutes left.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/521174/tigers-player-ratings-no-passengers-on-the-tiger-train)
Jack Riewoldt
Riewoldt started very slowly with just one touch in the first half. But he got going when the Tiger train got into motion, starting with a free kick and converting a shot on goal in the third. He floated in to take a great grab towards the end of the game, before kicking a goal with just two minutes remaining to ice the cake.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-dustin-martin-player-ratings-tigers-stats-best-and-worst-players-afl-finals-gabba/news-story/2c23bd9c6b85150e3f828938dc9c0006)
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Shame he didn't kick one more but it wasn't a night for tall forwards.
Still has good footy in him but I suspect 2021 will be it for him. Fingers crossed for 300/700. And beautifully spoken after the game. Has grown into a wonderful human.
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Jack Riewoldt has delivered his own rendition of Fleetwood Mac's ‘Dreams’ on TikTok after Richmond’s AFL Grand Final win:
Watch here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1320195971104477185
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"We've proven we can do it any time, any place... that's the reason I love this one."
🎥 @JackRiewoldt08 speaks about what makes his third premiership so special.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/836527/grand-recollections-jack-riewoldt?videoId=836527&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1605553200001
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Congratulations to Jack & Carly Riewoldt on the birth of Hazel Olive, a little sister for Poppy :).
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ3B_W3nAMk/
https://www.instagram.com/riewoldtjack08/
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Damn it Jack have a boy mate fmd
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"You know what the holy grail tastes like. It becomes addictive. You want to get back there." - Jack Riewoldt on 7news.
RFC part from 1:00 min mark:] https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1348543154912284673
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Jack now an AFL Life member :clapping.
Jack Riewoldt
283 premiership games for Richmond, kicking 664 goals.
19 pre-season games for Richmond.
3 x Premiership Player for Richmond 2017, 2019, 2020.
3 x All Australian 2010, 2015, 2018.
3 x Coleman Medallist 2010, 2013, 2018.
2 x Club Best and Fairest 2010, 2018.
2 x International games 2010.
1 x State of Origin game for All Stars 2020.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/540635/triple-flag-tiger-three-ex-skippers-among-new-afl-life-members
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That is a massive CV.
Triple coleman I find particularly amazing.
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That is a massive CV.
Triple coleman I find particularly amazing.
Yep lot of Tiger peeps got this one wrong
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and didn't get AA in the year he won the 2nd Coleman :huh
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Riewoldt is poised to become just the eighth player in the competition’s history to reach the combined 300-game and 700-goal milestones.
The star Tiger key forward goes into the new season with 283 games and 664 goals to his credit.
The full list of players to accomplish this rare feat are:
• Gordon Coventry (Collingwood): 306 games, 1299 goals.
• Lance Franklin (Hawthorn/Sydney): 300 games, 944 goals.
• Leigh Matthews (Hawthorn): 332 games, 915 goals.
• Bernie Quinlan (Footscray/Fitzroy): 366 games, 817 goals.
• Kevin Bartlett (Richmond): 403 games, 778 goals.
• Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda): 336 games, 718 goals.
• Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle): 353 games, 700 goals.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/861959/rarefied-air-awaits-riewoldt
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Cotchin added that three-time Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt remained a force to be reckoned with despite entering the twilight of his career, having turned 32 a week after the grand final.
“What I’ve loved about Jack’s game is moreso the little things that he’s doing and the way he’s getting the best out of our younger players as well. It probably isn’t spoken about from a holistic point of view, but the tap-ons, the contests, they’re all things that we value in a side. He’s doing a great job for us,” Cotchin said.
Source: The Age (https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/will-they-pick-him-pickett-on-edge-at-richmond-20210314-p57ajm.html)
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Jack has had a fantastic preseason. He's moving as well as he has in years. Didn't have a preseason operation from memory so he had a great preseason. Looks great and looks fresh. Could have kicked 5 if he didn't drop that mark at the end' - Dimma post-match.
10 disposals ( 9k, 1h, 6c, 4u, 60% eff.)
4 marks ( 1 contested)
5 tackles ( 3 in50 )
3 inside 50s
2 intercepts
349 metres gained
8 score involvements
4 goals
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But of life left in JR yet
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Fingers crossed for 300/700
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Very small snippet in yesterday's HUN
Saying Jack wants to play on in 2022 and his manager Liam Pickering saying talks for a new deal will begin shortly now the season has started
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Was poor in the first half then started to move around not get into grappling battles. Was brilliant in the second half of the game :clapping
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You can’t complain when your oldest forward is leading the way with 5 tackles (3 inside 50) and 17 pressure acts.
Some of the best kicking for goal you’ll see too.
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His kicking for goal is elite.
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Not always....does tend to miss some fairly easy shots every game or two ....as does Lynch... :shh
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Very small snippet in yesterday's HUN
Saying Jack wants to play on in 2022 and his manager Liam Pickering saying talks for a new deal will begin shortly now the season has started
No disrespect to Jack intended but I would rather wait until mid-year. One game so far and he looks cherry ripe, but falling off the cliff only takes a moment.
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Not always....does tend to miss some fairly easy shots every game or two ....as does Lynch... :shh
He’s no Plugger
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Jack on AFL360 said the game is shifting to favour the leading forward again. The speed of the game and the increased fatigue is leading to unstructured defence. Harder for numbers to get back and block space. The craft of the forwards is back.
Go to 10 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eAuXzvedeA
ps. Jack added at the end he is 9-1 as captain ;D.
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Kane Lambert post-game on Jack Riewoldt's start to the season:
"We're happy, probably not as happy as him, but he's kicking the ball really well ... he does a mountain of work each year, and probably doesn't get enough credit for that ... I'm so happy for him."
https://twitter.com/abcsport/status/1376034999825178629
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Moving, marking and kicking beautifully. Looks to be back in 2018 Coleman form.
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Jack closing in on KB, Carey and Neitz.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exyf_j4VcAUdW0_?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1377151508110712836
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JACK IS BACK
Evergreen Riewoldt continued his rich start to 2021 with three first-half majors to give Clurey headaches and keep the Tigers in the game.
Riewoldt has been just one beneficiary of the big spearhead rebirth, staving off whispers of a career decline to enjoy his best beginning to a campaign since 2013.
He couldn’t quite haul his team across the line on Friday but further big bags and potentially more finals joy await the true great Tiger.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-reset-premiership-push-by-bringing-down-richmond-tigers-20210409-p57hzy.html)
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Richmond's Jack Riewoldt has been in good goalkicking form this season:
* Overall Shot Accuracy: 70%
* Shots from 50+ metres: 6/8 (75%)
* He has kicked 18.2 points more than what would be expected by the 'average player' from the same positions on the ground.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey1KnfZVcAEKbNk?format=png&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey1KtkEUUAIbbQO?format=png&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/StatsInsider/status/1381879832238153732
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Bit of life left in the old boy yet
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A legend of our club :bow.
17 goals after 5 rounds. So Jack's on track for a 75-80 goal season.
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Still gears for Jack to go through
Last season might have been a quiet one by the lofty standards of three-time Coleman Medal winner Jack Riewoldt, but 2021 promises to be another prolific campaign. A five-goal haul on Thursday night added to four-goal outings against Carlton in round one and Hawthorn in round two, as well as an underrated three-goal performance against Port Adelaide last week. Taylor Walker's resurgence in Adelaide might have stolen the headlines so far this year when it comes to goalkicking veterans, but the 32-year-old Riewoldt now has 17 majors in five weeks and is emerging as a genuine contender for yet another Coleman Medal. Could he become just the ninth player in AFL/VFL history to claim the League's goalkicking award for the fourth time? On this form, don't rule it out.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/593929/tiger-kings-premiers-make-statement-in-saints-shellacking)
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17 goals is a career best return after 5 rounds for Jack.
Jack's goalkicking accuracy is also 13.5% better than average this year.
Source: Fox Footy.
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17 goals is a career best return after 5 rounds for Jack.
Jack's goalkicking accuracy is also 13.5% better than average this year.
Source: Fox Footy.
He’s kicking beautifully. His one weak spot seems to be 35-50m out on the left hand side on a 45 degree angle.
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Jack doing special comments on the Gold Coast v St Kilda game in Queensland. He must of travelled up there this morning. Do we allow our players interstate flights between games?
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Jack doing special comments on the Gold Coast v St Kilda game in Queensland. He must of travelled up there this morning. Do we allow our players interstate flights between games?
Doubt it.
You will find the broadcasters are not sending commentators interstate and they are calling from a studio.
Started last year due to COVID and they've kept doing it this year
Saves them huge $$$ apparently
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BRERETON: Why don't the media call out Jack Riewoldt for studs up? And yes I will admit I am part of the media. Two times he put his foot out, full extension, with studs up, while he kick pushes his opponent. It's not a great look.
https://twitter.com/BobandAndySEN/status/1394175130213904384
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BRERETON: Why don't the media call out Jack Riewoldt for studs up? And yes I will admit I am part of the media. Two times he put his foot out, full extension, with studs up, while he kick pushes his opponent. It's not a great look.
https://twitter.com/BobandAndySEN/status/1394175130213904384
Brereton, pfffft, what about the time he king hit Tony Free 30 metres off the play from behind, (and broke his jaw) that was a good look??
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BRERETON: Why don't the media call out Jack Riewoldt for studs up? And yes I will admit I am part of the media. Two times he put his foot out, full extension, with studs up, while he kick pushes his opponent. It's not a great look.
https://twitter.com/BobandAndySEN/status/1394175130213904384
Brereton, pfffft, what about the time he king hit Tony Free 30 metres off the play from behind, (and broke his jaw) that was a good look??
He also ran past the ball and cleaned up i think it was des ryan. Knocked him out. Thug.
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It isn’t a good look.
Agree with Brereton 100%
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It isn’t a good look.
Agree with Brereton 100%
maybe, but he has no credibility making that view.
It’s like Alan Jones calling out racism
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I agree it’s not a good look but then they better clamp down on Toby Greene then because he still does it
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I agree it’s not a good look but then they better clamp down on Toby Greene then because he still does it
Agree .. he’s the poster boy for the move
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In other contract news, Jack Riewoldt is poised to play on into a 16th season in 2022.
His agent Liam Pickering has opened discussions with the Tigers on a new deal that, once confirmed, could see the veteran become the second-most capped Tiger of all time.
Riewoldt is eight matches away from the 300 milestone, which should come later in the season.
Though his chances of reaching Kevin Bartlett’s 403-game club record remain remote, surpassing Jack Dyer on 311 would be within reach if he plays on.
Foxfooty.com.au understands discussions are at a preliminary stage but both parties have shown a willingness to continue beyond 2021.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-trades-chat-with-tom-morris-live-chat-patrick-cripps-marcus-bontempelli-contracts-jack-riewoldt/news-story/fde4217df22b923fe0e8fbf16c8b52a1
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See how he goes. Wouldn't rush.
Started strong but has faded terribly.
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Jack on 360 last night said he's been well paid during his career and it's only fair that he now receives a reduced contract so the money goes to the up and comers at the Club who now deserve it more. He expects something to be sorted out soon.
Jack also said his body is feeling great. He acknowledged he hasn't found the ball as much as he would've liked in the last two weeks but like Lynch he still feels he is playing his role.
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Happy for Jack to get another year on modest money.
I think we should look beyond Bachar for next year though.
That's no disrespect to Bachar who has been awesome for us.
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On Sunday, this 2006 draftee joins Titus on 294 games for the Mighty Tigers.
11 goals gets him to 700.
Glad wing/ half back didn’t work out.
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1396653283981152256
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See how he goes. Wouldn't rush.
Started strong but has faded terribly.
Would sign up for one year in a heart beat despite him being in slow decline even as back up if we get another F/A .Name one other genuine tall fwd on the list outside of him and Lynch on the list.And please no Ruck fwds.
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The inconsistent delivery inside F50 and disconnect between our mids and forwards (our injuries isn't helping that) as well as our MIA small forwards is making it harder for Jack (and Lynch) this year. The problem is not Jack who is on track for 55 goals by the end of the H/A season.
See how he goes. Wouldn't rush.
Started strong but has faded terribly.
Would sign up for one year in a heart beat despite him being in slow decline even as back up if we get another F/A .Name one other genuine tall fwd on the list outside of him and Lynch on the list.And please no Ruck fwds.
True, we don't have any genuine developing key forwards which is an issue. Balta and Miller would've been recruited as potential future key forwards but they have settled now as key defenders. Biggie is another who is a developing key defender.
When this dynasty era ends and we slip down the ladder, we will need to attack the high end of the draft and bring in genuinely talented key forwards as well as ballwinning mids. Given we have two first rounders this year, we should be starting on that path now to get a head start on rebuilding before we drop off.
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RICHMOND COACH FLAGS ROLE CHANGE FOR VETERAN FORWARD
By Laurence Rosen
SEN
29 May 2021
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has flagged a potential role change for Jack Riewoldt during Sunday’s game against Adelaide.
Originally scheduled to be played at the MCG, Victoria’s COVID situation saw the game moved to GIANTS Stadium.
Hardwick’s side welcomes back a host of big names for the clash, with the likes of Dion Prestia, Shai Bolton and captain Trent Cotchin all returning from respective injuries.
He said Riewoldt’s role “will look a little bit different” during parts of the game against the Crows.
“(His role) may change a little bit,” he told reporters on Saturday.
“We had a training session yesterday where his role will look a little bit different at various stages, but predominately it’ll stay the same.
“With some personnel that go down there (Riewoldt's role will) be a different at stages and hopefully you’ll get a good look at that tomorrow (in the game against Adelaide).”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/29/richmond-coach-flags-role-change-for-veteran-forward/
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Riewoldt hitting CCJ lace out from the wing richo style!
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Bit of life in the old boy yet
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Woweee. :cheers
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Mark of the year. Coukdnt care less how high Bolton got.
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(https://cf-images.ap-southeast-2.prod.boltdns.net/v1/static/6057984922001/30191aed-536f-4cb5-bbcd-e3b6b5d135a3/94cd66e0-b0a3-4754-88a6-49decf9327e3/1280x720/match/image.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/JackMarkR112021.mp4)
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/JackMarkR112021.mp4
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one of the finest you will ever see, especially considering the timing of it.
How do we compare that to his cousins?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGeSRJ5MMQ
https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/afl/afl-news-2021-video-of-richmond-tigers-jack-riewoldt-taking-great-mark-in-adelaide-crows-clash/ckpb08a86000y0gsajjfteckg
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Awesome mark
Cousins was better
But one is a 10/10 and the other a 9.5
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Question is would have Chol marked it if Jack wasn't there? He was certainly surprised as we all were.
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Dimma post-game talking about Jack:
* Jack's patch in the last was amazing. In fairness, I was calling him out of that mark, saying 'don't go, don't go', I thought the game was probably over. But that's what Richmond men do, they continue to go back with the flight of the ball no matter what time of the game or what the score is. Jack has been doing a power of work. Sometimes he gets judged harshly by a lot of people. But he plays a valuable role for us and Tom (Lynch) is the same. Every now and then they get a lick of the ice cream. So it was great reward for effort tonight.
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/948851/round-11-hardwick-post-match)
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Great game. Fantastic mark. Enormous courage. Really stood up when needed.
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Gee he looks so much better when roaming around not playing deep forward. When he doesn't get into grappling contests he plays like this :clapping
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Gee he looks so much better when roaming around not playing deep forward. When he doesn't get into grappling contests he plays like this :clapping
Agree. Suits his football smarts. Like where he waited and waited for CCJ to lead and get a break on the defender and then place to ball in perfect position for him.
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Vote here for Jack's speckie: https://www.afl.com.au/news/624410/mark-of-the-year-watch-and-vote-now
Jack is up against Tom Stewart & Narthan Fyfe.
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Adelaide’s senior coach Matthew Nicks praised Riewoldt for reclaiming the match for the Tigers after the Crows’ late burst.
“A key moment was Reiwoldt going back with the flight in the last quarter and then the way it played out for the rest of the game - they’re a fantastic team but for a leader to stand up like that, it was unfortunate for us,” he said.
“Unfortunately we were on the other end of it. It would’ve been nice because we had a bit of a run going into that point… but it turned the game,” he said.
https://www.afc.com.au/news/949641/nicksys-five-key-lessons-from-richmond-loss
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‘Where did he come from?’: Chol recalls spectacular Riewoldt mark
Daniel Cherny
The Age
June 1, 2021
Richmond’s Mabior Chol says he didn’t see Jack Riewoldt coming in the lead-up to the Tigers star’s stunning hanger late in Sunday’s win over Adelaide.
Chol had been leading to a kick inside 50 from Jack Graham but was upstaged by Riewoldt, who soared to take a spectacular pack mark after running back with the flight of the ball. Riewoldt converted the ensuing set shot en route to a five-goal haul in the 28-point victory over the Crows at Giants Stadium.
“It was a funny one. I did not see Jack coming at all,” Chol said on Monday of the incredible moment.
“Credit to him, it was an amazing mark. I think if you see the footage, I was pretty shocked, where he came from. I was like, ‘Wow, where did he come from?’”
Riewoldt risked injury by tracking back with the flight of the ball, an issue brought to the fore last week by AFLW star Darcy Vescio when she questioned whether a similarly courageous mark from Western Bulldogs gun Lachie Hunter should have been celebrated.
“Having no regard for your own safety shouldn’t be what makes you a good teammate,” Vescio tweeted.
Chol said that ultimately players acted on instinct when it came to such moments.
“I think it’s just an instinct thing. It’s a hard one to call because you’re just playing off instinct out there. It happens so quick you don’t even notice,” Chol said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/where-did-he-come-from-chol-recalls-spectacular-riewoldt-mark-20210531-p57wqa.html
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The AFL website didn't include Bolts mark but here's a video comparing some of the best marks in history with Jack's.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/06/01/a39072d0-6263-48d1-8b69-fcc43bdb14e1/Greatest-Marks-v2.jpg?width=952&height=592) (https://www.afl.com.au/news/624481/watch-and-vote-has-jack-riewoldt-taken-the-greatest-mark-of-all-time-)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/624481/watch-and-vote-has-jack-riewoldt-taken-the-greatest-mark-of-all-time-
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I would still take moorcroft as greatest i have ever seen but boy oh boy riewoldt’s was special
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Seen at least half a dozen marks better than Moorecroft's... :shh
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Moorecrofts was spectacular because he misjudged the ball in flight and nearly stuffed the whole thing up
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Silvagni's wasn't even a mark as he dropped it.
Nick's better than Jack's I think for sheer theatrics
For a pure marks I rate Moorecroft's number one. Sean Smith's number 2. Always loved Roachy's also.
Shai's very similar to Sampi's.
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I love moorcroft for how far he had to extend back to get his mits on the ball. I seem to recall reading that mark killed his career in AFL but Geez almighty he got some serious hang time with that mark
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“ICONIC” TIGER TIPPED FOR INSTANT HALL OF FAME STATUS
By Alex Zaia
SEN
2 June 2021
SEN host Dwayne Russell has tipped “iconic” Richmond champion Jack Riewoldt to become an instant inductee into the Australian Football Hall of Fame.
Riewoldt, 32, kicked five goals to almost single-handedly drag the Tigers over the line against Adelaide on Sunday and still has plenty to offer in the twilight of his decorated 294-game career.
Boasting an impressive CV that includes three premierships, three Coleman Medals, three All-Australians and two Jack Dyer Medals, the 32-year-old will go down as one of Richmond’s all-time greats.
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“I reckon Jack Riewoldt gets into the AFL Hall of Fame first year of eligibility,” Russell told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“He’s been iconic for this era, he’s got a great resume now.
“As a leader of the football club, as a player that stands up when the heat is on and had to stand up yesterday (Sunday) – he’s become great.
“He’s become one of the most watchable players in the comp and one of the players I love watching.”
Riewoldt, who comes out of contract at the end of the year, has kicked 30 goals for the season at an average of just under three per match.
He’s six majors shy of joining the 700-goal club and is set to become the fourth Tiger to play 300 games.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/02/iconic-tiger-tipped-for-instant-hall-of-fame-status/
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Wayne Carey's view of Jack's mark:
... In many respects Jack’s mark was unique.
He combined the courage of his cousin with the high-leaping of his team-mate Shai Bolton. For degree of difficulty, Jack edges Nick and it’s why I’m prepared to say his was a better mark.
Often back with the flight marks are simply chest marks and that’s why they’re not always judged as favourably in mark of the year voting.
But not only did Jack run back with the flight, but he managed to elevate himself and turn his body in such a way that he still held onto the ball.
That ability to contort his body reminded me of Gavin Wanganeen in his Brownlow Medal year. Former Blue Kenny Hunter, too.
For a player to keep the footy in their grasp can be underrated from a bravery standpoint. Often, they can lose the ball on the way down, because they’re worried about breaking their fall.
It’s why Jack Riewoldt’s mark deserves to be in the conversation as one of the greatest marks, not just of this season but all-time.
At number one, I still have Shaun Smith simply because of his elevation.
But in terms of what will stick in the memory, Jack’s isn’t far behind.
Full article: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/from-the-riewoldts-to-jezza-the-afl-marks-that-won-t-be-forgotten-20210603-p57xrs.html
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Jack won't get the kudos like last week but he again created goals for the team in the last 10 mins out of nothing. Just his contesting and footy smarts is brilliant.
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Jack won't get the kudos like last week but he again created goals for the team in the last 10 mins out of nothing. Just his contesting and footy smarts is brilliant.
Totally agree with this.
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Should have been given another shot or two as well due to infringements.
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The Tigers have not yet announced Riewoldt's extension through to the end of 2022, but the three-time Coleman medallist has added another year to his brilliant career at Punt Road.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/629190/who-s-still-on-the-table-updated-free-agents-list-revealed)
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The Tigers have not yet announced Riewoldt's extension through to the end of 2022, but the three-time Coleman medallist has added another year to his brilliant career at Punt Road.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/629190/who-s-still-on-the-table-updated-free-agents-list-revealed)
SEN just said Jack has signed a one-year extension.
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Great stuff Jack :clapping.
Only 5 games off 300. So barring injury, Jack could finish up with the second most games played for the Club.
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Sensational. I'm so happy for him (and us). I thought he was heading for a cliff last year and earlier this year. Happy to be proven wrong again and again.
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:clapping
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Richmond's all-time games list:
Bartlett 403
Dyer 311
Bourke 300
Campbell 297
Riewoldt 295*
Titus 294
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
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As a richmond supporter, Campbell didn’t want to surpass the top three elite so retired before 300 games and rightly so.
As serviceable as Campbell was, he couldn’t even tie the sandals of any of those players.
Jack Reiwoldt has proven to be worthily named amongst the established tiger legends and we are lucky to have had him in our team.
In my time watching I haven’t seen a player with such a high footy IQ, he reads the game and sets up goals by doing things that some players didn’t even realise he was even doing (sideshowbobvickery).
It’s certainly a great achievement and I’m glad he will get there
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AFL'S LEADING GOALKICKERS, 2002-21
Player Goals Shot at Goal Accuracy
L. Franklin 969 51.7%
N. Riewoldt 716 53.2%
J. Riewoldt 698 54.0%
J. Kennedy 673 57.1%
M. Pavlich 658 55.3%
T. Hawkins 632 56.7%
E. Betts 630 55.3%
B. Hall 602 59.3%
J. Roughead 578 53.8%
B. Fevola 570 53.8%
J. Brown 551 58.4%
S. Milne 547 54.6%
S. Johnson 516 47.7%
https://www.afl.com.au/news/632280/simple-but-deadly-three-steps-that-make-eagles-so-efficient
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Jack on 360 confirmed he has re-signed for next year :thumbsup. He thought he didn't have his best year in 2020 but he feels he's played pretty good footy this year.
Robbo also let slip that Jack told him off-camera that he once played with broken ribs for 6 weeks straight with painkillers.
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Richmond's all-time games list:
Bartlett 403
Dyer 311
Bourke 300
Campbell 297
Riewoldt 295*
Titus 294
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
There’s an excellent series of articles about Jack written by Konrad Marshall covering different perspectives on him from those in the footy world and his family. A must read during the build up to his 300th.
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Richmond star reveals contract call on AFL 360
David Zita
Fox Sports
June 23rd, 2021
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has confirmed he has “formally agreed” to a one-year contract extension, which will see him play on into a 16th year.
Riewoldt, who was out of contract at year’s end, has had a resurgent season, kicking 34 goals from 13 games after booting just 33 from 21 games in 2020.
The 32-year-old confirmed the news on Tuesday night’s edition of AFL 360.
“I actually haven’t signed a bit of paper but I’ve formally agreed to hang around for another year,” he said.
“I’m super excited obviously. I’ve actually never gone into the last year of a contract - we’ve always sort of renegotiated with a year to go.
“It played on my mind a bit early on - obviously last year I didn’t have as good a year as I would’ve liked. This year I feel like I’ve played good footy and been able to keep myself in really good condition and I think my football is doing the talking for me at the moment.
“Rapt to be onboard and back at Tigerland next year.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2021-jack-riewoldt-contract-richmond-resigns-with-club-afl-360-richmond-out-of-contract-players-alltime-games/news-story/fcca05a13bcd05ed36087979c3759222
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Congrats Jack 700 goals :clapping :bow
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Hopefully he's over the yips like a batsman in the 90's.
Hasn't been going for marks. Always looking for taps etc. Honestly I was starting to wonder if he has a broken finger.
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ESTEEMED COMPANY
Five days before he is due to play his 300th game, Jack Riewoldt notched another significant milestone after the half-time siren on Sunday. With the Magpies having cut the margin back to 11 points on the back of a strong 10 minutes, the veteran spearhead soared to take an impressive mark in heavy congestion as the seconds ticked down to the long break. Riewoldt went back and slotted his first major of the game, in doing so becoming the 24th player to kick 700 goals in VFL/AFL history. Only Kevin Bartlett, Jack Titus and Matthew Richardson had previously achieved the feat for Richmond.
(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.171%2C$multiply_2.0847%2C$ratio_0.666667%2C$width_378%2C$x_0%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/q_62%2Cf_auto/2cc8f562f9ba12016dafaf954b5a14172a6ec3b8)
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pies-surge-late-to-deal-the-tigers-flag-hopes-another-blow-20210711-p588nm.html)
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That's fantastic and he deserves the accolades but he had a shocker yesterday and is one of the leaders that just didn't stand up 8n the end. Enough of the cute stuff Jack, grab the ball and hit a target.
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That's fantastic and he deserves the accolades but he had a shocker yesterday and is one of the leaders that just didn't stand up 8n the end. Enough of the cute stuff Jack, grab the ball and hit a target.
^^^^^ this
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Jack had a mare yesterday but has had an amazing career I am very grateful for.
His effort in the goal square against Maynard in the last quarter when Lynch kicked it to him was as poor as I have seen effort wise, he just gave up.
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Hasn't been going for marks either. The one time he went for a mark he took it and goaled.
Elsewise he looks like he's tired, sore or cbf.
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Hasn't been going for marks either. The one time he went for a mark he took it and goaled.
Elsewise he looks like he's tired, sore or cbf.
Theres one you missed maybe he is just past it.
If the footy department does not go after a genuine key forward in the off season then they are kidding themselves.
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Don't think he's over it but I think maybe we jumped the gun signing him up. Should have waited.
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A week to celebrate @JackRiewoldt08 ahead of his 300th game in the Yellow & Black.
#JACK300
Watch here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1414769451761758209
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Jack 300 | According to his teammates:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/973640/jack-300-according-to-his-teammates
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Jack Riewoldt AFL 360 interview, 300 games, club record holders, how many goals, all-time ranking, Riewoldt family
David Zita
Fox Sports
July 13th, 2021 9:42 pm
Richmond champion Jack Riewoldt joined AFL 360 ahead of his 300th game for an emotional reflection on his remarkable footy journey.
Riewoldt will on Friday notch his 300th game, another accolade in a career that includes three premierships, three Coleman medals, three All-Australians and two best-and-fairests.
In a wide-ranging interview with Gerard Whateley and Mark Robinson, along with father Chris and cousin Nick, Jack was emotional after a touching montage of messages from friends and family before reflecting on his journey - READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPT BELOW OR WATCH ON FOX FOOTY’S YOUTUBE CHANNEL
Gerard Whateley: It’s a big week and Nick and your Dad are here with us to reflect as well. It’s also a short week. Are you going to be able to take it in, and is there a moment for reflection and nostalgia in it?
Jack Riewoldt: It’s a short week fitting a lot of things in and I know how important it is to the club as well as myself and obviously my family and everyone that’s been a part of my journey so it’s not one that you can sort of just brush by and play it low key so there’s a lot of things to cover, but it’s gonna be an incredible journey over the next few days leading into the game Friday night and what’s not lost on me is that the importance of Friday night for us and our football club more than anything that we need to get back on track a little bit.
Mark Robinson: There’s two families in all footballer’s lives. There’s your footy family and then there’s your family. Do you get time to think about your family, or do you spend thinking about your football journey?
JR: I think it‘s probably a lot of reflection and I think you fight away to the end of your career and I’ve probably been in that little mental battle for probably this year, just thinking the end is coming and I know that I’m closer to the end than I am the start so there’s been a lot of a lot of thoughts go through my mind about this could be the last time I do this, but this week’s been one where I’ve just sort of really started to play a few memories back in my mind and Carly’s done an amazing job and actually kept a scrapbook and Dad well of every article I’ve been involved in ... it’s amazing when you just look back through and the memories that it brings back and even just parts of games that you think never think about, you read a little scoreline on you read a whole lot you go, holy crap 15 years has gone very, very fast, very fast. I saved this story because I didn’t want to tell anyone else. I remember at draft camp in 2006 Chocco Williams asked me in my interview how many games are you gonna play, and I was pretty cheeky, I said I’ll play 300, he said you know only 1% of players have played 300 games, I said yeah I’ve got that covered and sure enough I’ve come through! I was very forward as a young man and very, very confident and I think it helped me get through early on in my career.
GW: Do you know what the source of the confidence was?
JR: I think my mother’s fairly confident so there’s some sort of genetics I think to do that. I loved sport as a kid and just loved playing and you know I’ve been blessed to have some great role models in my life, especially football. Rooey was probably my hero growing up as a kid and probably still my hero today and I played footy with Jade Rawlings when I was 17 years of age when I was playing for the Tassie devils so I got a great AFL experience there before I even was drafted and then I was under Matthew Richardson for three years and three great Tasmanian champion forwards to ask them anything I wanted to do so. I was always very fortunate.
MR: When you when you started, you were ‘Nick‘s cousin’ ... how proud are you to have forged your own identity?
JR: I still get called Nick a fair bit when I go shopping. My journey has been a bloody hell of a ride. I look at the way it’s happened and current form probably isn’t great but I’m so glad that I experienced the real hardships of finishing last, not winning a lot of games, even down to training in sort of substandard facilities at Punt Road and everything that came with that. I’ve actually now been able to see what it’s like on the other side to winning a premiership, to being in a great facility, to be in a club that just has an amazing culture and develop friendships through that I’ll have forever so I’m glad that’s the way it’s happened. I’m glad that it’s been the hardship, and then the highlights.
GW: If I’ve done the maths right, you’d played 151 games when you came and joined us and 149 we’ve shared together since. There’s a delineation in your career. Our first year was 2016 and that was the year where we all sat here and wondered whether it was actually ever going to happen and then it happens. Can you feel the phases of your career?
JR: There‘s the first five years which we obviously played under Terry Wallace and then a couple of years under Dimma where we really struggled and we finished down the bottom of the ladder and always dreamt of what it’d be like to play finals, and then there was a period through that middle part where we played finals and lose in the first week of the finals ... 2016 happened and then there’s been a big shift and a massive shift since then.
MR: You’re such a scallywag and you’re such a champion of the game but you sort of hold a warm spot with football because crawling up the stairs at the MCG when you were knocked out
GW: Let‘s go to the train station first. What are your recollections of this afternoon in 2014?
JR: So John Vickery was running beside me. I made a blue at a press conference a couple of days earlier and sort of said something that I shouldn’t have said in terms of game plan and it blew up from there. They wanted to sneak me out, John Vickery was supposed to leave my car around near the Tigers superstore at Punt Road and he parked in the wrong spot. I jumped the fence and I landed over the fence with a laptop and I was holding thongs over a barbed wire fence which I thought is pretty bloody good effort to be honest. I landed and just had this moment where I looked into this car on Brunton Avenue there and I saw Mark Stevens looking at me. Next thing you know the media came hooting around the corner and I went into the train station, I didn’t have a Myki. I waited for about an hour just sitting there, didn’t get on a train and just thought what the hell have I done. Funnily enough, I took that Myki along to a comedy day maybe about six weeks after that and we auctioned it off, it had $5 credit and someone bought it for $400!
MR: Look at this (Jack peeking out of the rooms after getting concussed and ruled out of the game in 2011), how old were you there?
JR: That was 2011 and that is against the Saints. I got knocked out in the first quarter, thought I was right to come back on the ground and I can remember just saying ‘Dimma, Dmimma, Dimma’ trying to get his attention because he was coaching from the, from the sidelines at that point. I tried to make myself look like I was right and had a bit of a kick and stuff I then got told I wasn’t going back on and sat in the background with a bit of a frown for the rest of the game. The game was a draw so it gets replayed a lot when we play the Saints, about three weeks ago I just got a barrage of younger players texting me footage and it’s just like am I gonna re-live this every time this game’s on!?
MR: The greatest thing I‘ve seen a player do was get on stage with The Killers after the Grand Final. Every time the song comes on I think of you.
JR: I’ve been banned from singing this actually. It was just so much fun and I remember Rory Sloane text me about a month after and said I am so jealous of you, my favourite band is The Killers and we obviously beat Adelaide in that in that grand final. We sort of bonded over that and played a little bit of footy in pre-season games and it was a hell of a day that one. foreign you guys you’ve lived my, my ultimate day, you know, as I’m so jealous of you, and we sort of we bonded over that and played a little bit of footy in pre-season games together and it was a one hell of a day that one.
GW: You’ve lived the full spectrum, that’s how it appears to me - 300 games gives you a long time but you have lived a whole lot from the clown to the darling, from the misery to the ultimate joy, and all that we’ve seen in between. Do you have a sense of that?
JR: Yeah and I think, ultimately, the one thing I‘m most proud of is that I reckon I’ve gone from being a selfish player, and not ultimately selfish but just not understanding what it’s like to be a great team player, to what I feel like is one of my greatest strengths now that I’m certainly one of our best team players in terms of the way I go about it and changed my whole mindset on how I wanted to play football and what I wanted to be known for. I suppose it‘s sort of coincided with reaching that ultimate success as well as a team.
GW: So good genes helps. so carriages just half responsible. Chris your dad has come in to join us, he’s a legend of Tassie footy. Chris, welcome. What’s your sense of your son reaching 300 games?
Chris Riewoldt: Mostly proud. It’s a wonderful achievement and it’s something I never ever dreamt that he would be, you know, getting to. Most people say your son goes and plays football you’d be happy if they played one game, but you know he’s been productive in the ways he’s played. He’s been able to win best and fairests and goalkicking and All Australians. To do it over a 300-game period is just a huge effort to get all those accolades and also play all those games.
MR: When did you think that Jack had it in him to be a good footballer and could be an AFL player?
CR: He didn‘t start playing till pretty late, but he played his first senior game of football in Tasmania with when he was 15. I remember in his first game him getting a kick on the boundary line about 45 out from goals and kicking it through the goals and I was with a guy called Scott Way who used to play with Hawthorn who said ‘he’s going to be alright your boy’, probably then I knew.
JR: I can distinctly remember I might’ve been 16 years of age and Dad was pretty handy player and the BnF is named after him and Dad said to me I think you might have me covered as a player and I was like, holy crap.
GW: Nick an illustrious 336-game career, is he a worthy member of your club?
Nick Riewoldt: It was inevitable. There are certain things that I‘ve been able to tick off and just one by one, along he comes! He takes them off me. He’s got his flags but you know at least I’ve got 700 goals. He take’s that, he’s even taken my mark! We’re so proud as a family. I made it. It’s interesting, when he came into the league I’d been around for half a dozen years already so we’ve always had that relationship and that friendship in the shared experience, but you go into another club and then that’s your family. To have seen him ride that journey with the Richmond football club ... my last year was the emergence of Richmond from a long slumber - I had no concept of what Jack was a part of at Richmond, because in my time in footy I’d never seen it, I’d never seen them become the juggernaut that they’ve become over the last five year. For Jack to have played such a massive role in it, it’s yeah it’s been, it’s just been so much fun to watch. And now on the other side of it’s been a lens to keep us all connected as a family in the game, which has been amazing.
MR: Do you ever talk when you have a few bees together about having kick-to-kick in the backyard ...
NR: We both thought the exact same thing then! We tried this one year at around 2008 on the east coast ... a tiny little school with an oval maybe 60 metres long. In, they‘ve got a tiny little school it’s a tiny little town that the, the ovals may be 60 meters long and there’s a set of goalpost and we had a three-on-three or a four-on-four and I partially tore my ACL. I had a partially torn ACL and made it back for the start of the 2009 season. I reckon that was the last time. The boys now though - whenever Jack comes over, I mean, James told me the other day I’m now the third best footballer. Jack’s number one, James says he’s number two and I’m number three so the boys love it.
GW: Thanks for sharing it with us tonight.
JR: Thank you guys and thanks for being along for the journey for the last five years, I‘d say. I do really mean it when I say I’ve grown up and a lot of people at the football club have had to do it but certainly being a part of this organisation and this show has helped me grow up a lot.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-latest-news-2021-jack-riewoldt-afl-360-interview-300-games-club-record-holders-how-many-goals-alltime-ranking-riewoldt-family/news-story/f0ec3a560c7dbc11b37695edfdcffd40
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Here is AFL 360's tribute video to Jack:
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Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1414884954157109250
:thumbsup (https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1414884954157109250)
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Former Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson recalls the anxious wait on draft night 2006 to secure Tasmania's Jack Riewoldt.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/978446/riewoldt-s-richmond-recruitment-recollection
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Dimma today talking about Jack:
* One thing Jack Riewoldt does is bring a smile to me and everyone else in the group. That's what the great players do. They challenge everyone. That's the conversations great clubs are built on. The one thing I will say about Jack is his growth from when he first got here to where he is now. It's been incredible. He's a wonderful man both on and off the field. He's an incredible leader, an incredible father and an incredible husband. I look at this guy, not only me but the whole organisation, and we're so proud of the person he has become. More importantly he is still growing and still learning. He'll go down not only as one of the greats of our Club but the AFL in general. He's a wonderful person and the game is very lucky to have him.
* That's who he is. Jack is very smart. He's got a long career ahead of him in whatever he wants to do whether that's in AFL footy, in the media, in coaching. He's very very diligent in what he does. He's always challenged things we've want to do with our gameplan. That's what we love about the guy. That's what the very best players do. There was a time early in his career I was prepared to trade him for a six pack of Furphy [nice club sponsor plug Dimma] but we move on quickly from those.
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/978881/hardwick-previews-brisbane)
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‘Regular conversations:’ Tigers champ’s failed trade to ex-powerhouse revealed
Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
July 15th, 2021
Hawthorn legend Jordan Lewis has lifted the lid on “regular conversations” he had with Richmond star Jack Riewoldt in 2016 about a potential move to Waverley Park.
Lewis revealed that the pair grew close after spending four years appearing together on Fox Footy’s AFL 360 onPlayers Night.
It came during a dominant era for the Hawks — winning three consecutive premierships from 2013 to 2015 — while Richmond hadn’t made it past an elimination final in the recent seasons.
Ironically, after a potential move fell through, Lewis departed Hawthorn for Melbourne at the end of 2016, while Richmond went on to win three of the next four flags.
Speaking on AFL 360 on Wednesday night ahead of Riewoldt’s 300th game, Lewis said the gun forward was weighing up his future during a tough 2016 season where the Tigers didn’t play finals.
“It’s funny when you think back on the conversations that you have upstairs, and a lot of the conversations don’t get shared for whatever reason. But I don’t think I’m breaking trust or anything to share this one,” he said.
“2016 was a really hard year. When you sit on this desk and your side’s not performing well and you have to come in every Wednesday night and answer questions.
“We would have regular conversations upstairs about potentially and how we could orchestrate him moving to Hawthorn and getting him out of that Richmond environment and moving to a club where he could see potentially some success.
“It became to hard for a variety of reasons. It’s funny when you look back on that and at the end of 2016, funnily enough I was out of that organisation and he stayed at the organisation and then became a really successful period for them.
“The ability to withstand the trade carrot, stay at the club, be successful is a great testament to how he’s played his whole career.”
Asked if he feels a kinship with Riewoldt, Lewis said: “No doubt.
“I didn’t really know him before he came on and started spending nearly every Wednesday night together.
“It became a really good friendship and to the point where after the grand final I think he said I was one of the only calls that he took — because you had something in common (together).”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl360/afl-news-2021-jack-riewoldt-to-hawthorn-failed-trade-richmond-tigers-jordan-lewis-on-afl-360/news-story/21e8fb5a264fe199dd137d26b4eb82e2
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The 300+ gamers :thumbsup
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https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202021%20Media%20-%20Jack%20Riewoldt%20300%20Media%20Opportunity
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‘It sits awkwardly’
Jack Riewoldt, 32, said that the milestone sat somewhat awkwardly with him given he joins club greats Jack Dyer, Kevin Bartlett and Francis Bourke as the only men to have played 300 games with the Tigers.
“It’s a little bit embarrassing to be honest. It’s extremely humbling. They are the greats of not only this football club but of the AFL, so it sits a little bit awkwardly with me at the moment,” said the Tasmanian as wife Carly and daughter Poppy watched on at a press conference held in the club’s boardroom.
Riewoldt said he was particularly proud of being part of a club that rose from the depths of a rebuild at the turn of the last decade to become a modern power, winning three premierships.
“It’s been a hell of a journey for 300 games and I’ve been blessed to be able to pull on the Richmond jumper 300 times, and every time it’s meant the world to me.
“It’s very special to me.
“One thing I’m extremely passionate about is being loyal and I’m glad that I’ve been given that opportunity to show my loyalty to this football club.
“I think that’s probably one of the things I’m really proud about is that I’ve actually experienced the real lows of AFL football and finishing last and getting early draft picks.
“Warnie sent me a message which was pretty good, I was rapt with that.”
He said he had never genuinely considered leaving Richmond.
“Not seriously. Obviously that’s the game of AFL football and professional sport is that there will always be other suitors that want your services but as I said, loyalty’s been so important to me and so strong to me, I’ve always relied on that and the support the club has shown me as well.”
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/former-saint-to-make-tigers-debut-on-friday-night-20210715-p589vu.html)
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‘It sits awkwardly’
The other thing that sits awkwardly is jack being Teabagged by the statue
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JACK RIEWOLDT OUTLINES SEVERAL "REALLY IMPORTANT" MENTORS AHEAD OF 300TH GAME
By Laurence Rosen
SEN
16 July 2021
Jack Riewoldt has paid tribute to several mentors ahead of his 300th game against Brisbane on Friday night.
Riewoldt, who grew up in Tasmania, played alongside club great Matthew Richardson in his formative years at the club, while he was also mentored by fellow Tasmanian Jade Rawlings as well as Craig McRae.
Riewoldt said having someone like Richardson at the club to learn off was vital in his first years at Punt Road, reaffirming just how grateful he was throughout his career to have plenty of people who he considers mentors.
“It was really important (to have Matthew Richardson at the club when I arrived),” he said on SEN’s Whateley.
“Jade Rawlings at well, he became the forwards coach the year I started at Richmond so we transitioned from Tassie VFL program into Richmond (together) so I had a leg up there as well.
“Craig McRae would have had a little bit to do with me beforehand with the Allies program and of course Richo, the one thing I’ve never had to worry about is having forward mentors.
“They’ve all supported me through different parts of my journey, they’ve all helped me to become a different player and change the way I play.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/15/jack-riewoldt-outlines-several-really-important-mentors-ahead-of-300th-game/
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(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4fa.png) WATCH: One of Tasmania's greatest footballers of the modern era will register a special milestone tomorrow night.
@JackRiewoldt08 will run out for @AFL game number 300... following an illustrious 15-year journey that's included 3 premierships.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/players/JackRiewoldt300WinNews15072021.png) (https://twitter.com/brentcostelloe/status/1415615912267243520)
https://twitter.com/brentcostelloe/status/1415615912267243520
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‘It sits awkwardly’
The other thing that sits awkwardly is jack being Teabagged by the statue
:lol
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Tonight's @7AFL #FridayFocus is on our very own @JackRiewoldt08 and his journey to #JACK300 💛
The #AFLTigersLions broadcast starts at 7pm on 7mate with the Friday Night Countdown.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1415899242707791875
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Bit of life left in the old boy yet
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Who were the ones who said he was finished :lol
Tore them apart.
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Who were the ones who said he was finished :lol
Tore them apart.
Me, and he 100% looked it at the time.
Jumping like a spring chicken tonight. Couldn't be happier.
Jack and I are the same age to the day and I sure as heck feel old myself haha.
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Who were the ones who said he was finished :lol
Tore them apart.
Me, and he 100% looked it at the time.
Jumping like a spring chicken tonight. Couldn't be happier.
Jack and I are the same age to the day and I sure as heck feel old myself haha.
Hahaha
True that. His last 2 games were like chalk and cheese.
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Immortal Jack. Most underated KP forward just about of all time I reckon. Never gets the respect he deserves. Better than Pav, Tredrea even Richo. I'd take Jack over Jono Brown too.
What a champion.
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1416020822905344003/photo/1
:bow :clapping
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Last night was a lovely dump down the throat of all the naysayers that call him a diver, whinger and junk-time-jack.
Enjoy the salt :D
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Jack now sitting second in the Coleman.
McKay 48
Riewoldt 42
Hawkins 41
Walker 41
Bruce 40
B.King 38
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Lynch 28
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_goal_kickers
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RICHMOND WAS SO CONFIDENT IN DRAFTING JACK RIEWOLDT THEY DELIBERATELY TRADED THEIR TOP DRAFT PICK
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
17 July 2021
Former Richmond coach Terry Wallace has revealed how confident his team at the time was when they drafted Jack Riewoldt.
The now-300-gamer was selected with pick 13 in the 2006 National Draft, but the Tigers actually finished the year with pick eight.
Wallace has revealed they were locked into taking Riewoldt early, but knew other teams wouldn’t select him.
They therefore opted to trade down the draft order, working out a deal with Fremantle and Collingwood.
It was a big trade at the time, seeing Chris Tarrant move to the Dockers and Paul Medhurst to the Magpies, while the Tigers moved back from eight to 13 and picked up Graham Polak.
“We actually had pick eight that year. If we’d gone to the draft with pick eight, Jack would’ve been pick eight rather than being pick 13,” Wallace told AFL Nation.
“We had done our homework and knew that no one else was going to take him that high.
“Again, it was because he wasn’t seen as an athletic player. When he tested at the combine, the high-end testing wasn’t there. He didn’t have natural speed, but he was a natural footballer.
“We’d seen him play in senior games and every time he came up against an AFL player, he stepped up to a higher level and Jade Rawlings had given him an enormous praise for his footy acumen.
“What we said was, if no one else was going to pick him first up, why do we need to use pick eight?
“So we went to Fremantle and there was a three-way trade between Fremantle, Collingwood and ourselves for us to get Graham Polak into the club.
“What we did was we got Polak out of Fremantle and got their pick 13. We knew there was no danger of losing Jack at all. We thought we might as well get the extra player in.
“Graham was just starting to establish himself right until he got hit by a tram which probably didn’t help him too much along the journey.
“That was why we went to pick 13. We always knew we were going to be able to pick him up. We were always very confident in Jack at pick 13.”
Collingwood made the most of pick eight, drafting future All-Australian Ben Reid.
Polak played 38 games for the Tigers before being struck by a tram in 2008.
He ultimately retired in 2010, with the injuries suffered in the incident changing the trajectory of his career.
Wallace went on to explain that the 2006 draft was the first year Richmond had a full-time recruiter on staff.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/17/richmond-was-so-confident-in-drafting-jack-riewoldt-they-deliberately-traded/
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It’s a testament to how good of a player he is that he has had to change and adapt so often. He wins the coleman as a high flying forward then basically gets made a decoy and clear the 50 as an ill attempt to make vickery decent.
Get told to put on more weight which then messes up his spring then told to lose the weight again to be more aerobic and more mobile. He gets in trouble for saying Hardwick was trying to make Richmond play like hawthorn in 2014-ish era and that the game plan was poo and wouldn’t hold up in finals which he wasn’t wrong.
He gets snubbed of all Australian in his second coleman year which is ridiculous and then remade himself as a wily chf.
His journey had been wild and chaotic yet he reliably has kicked 50+ goals each season for I don’t know how many seasons when the entire forward line was dysfunctional with great names such as nahas, Aaron Edwards, Nathan gordon and sideshow.
I know he is in the twilight of his career yet he has proven me wrong with his trajectory set to take him to 50 goals again this year.
An absolute legend and well deserved 300
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RICHMOND WAS SO CONFIDENT IN DRAFTING JACK RIEWOLDT THEY DELIBERATELY TRADED THEIR TOP DRAFT PICK
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
17 July 2021
Former Richmond coach Terry Wallace has revealed how confident his team at the time was when they drafted Jack Riewoldt.
The now-300-gamer was selected with pick 13 in the 2006 National Draft, but the Tigers actually finished the year with pick eight.
Wallace has revealed they were locked into taking Riewoldt early, but knew other teams wouldn’t select him.
They therefore opted to trade down the draft order, working out a deal with Fremantle and Collingwood.
It was a big trade at the time, seeing Chris Tarrant move to the Dockers and Paul Medhurst to the Magpies, while the Tigers moved back from eight to 13 and picked up Graham Polak.
“We actually had pick eight that year. If we’d gone to the draft with pick eight, Jack would’ve been pick eight rather than being pick 13,” Wallace told AFL Nation.
“We had done our homework and knew that no one else was going to take him that high.
“Again, it was because he wasn’t seen as an athletic player. When he tested at the combine, the high-end testing wasn’t there. He didn’t have natural speed, but he was a natural footballer.
“We’d seen him play in senior games and every time he came up against an AFL player, he stepped up to a higher level and Jade Rawlings had given him an enormous praise for his footy acumen.
“What we said was, if no one else was going to pick him first up, why do we need to use pick eight?
“So we went to Fremantle and there was a three-way trade between Fremantle, Collingwood and ourselves for us to get Graham Polak into the club.
“What we did was we got Polak out of Fremantle and got their pick 13. We knew there was no danger of losing Jack at all. We thought we might as well get the extra player in.
“Graham was just starting to establish himself right until he got hit by a tram which probably didn’t help him too much along the journey.
“That was why we went to pick 13. We always knew we were going to be able to pick him up. We were always very confident in Jack at pick 13.”
Collingwood made the most of pick eight, drafting future All-Australian Ben Reid.
Polak played 38 games for the Tigers before being struck by a tram in 2008.
He ultimately retired in 2010, with the injuries suffered in the incident changing the trajectory of his career.
Wallace went on to explain that the 2006 draft was the first year Richmond had a full-time recruiter on staff.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/17/richmond-was-so-confident-in-drafting-jack-riewoldt-they-deliberately-traded/
STFU Wallace this article has absolutely no relevance. Just a chance to say oh I drafted him and we thought he was amazing and nobody else did.
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The entire interview was about the chicken necked me man being the architect of our youth policy which landed Jack, Shedda, Rance, Cotch and Dusty.
Funny that, I thought he was on the phone to talk about Jack’s 300th.
Given he has absolutely nothing to contribute to Jack’s development as a player, it’s probably understandable he made it about him.
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Wallet cracks me up. When asked he said he wasn’t involved with recruiting and now he’s saying he was fully involved with the recruiting. :rollin
What a megalomaniac
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A true champion. He loves playing Brisbane and continued his tradition of destroying them.
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The performance was the subject of praise from Tim Watson.
“What about Jack Riewoldt’s response and his game in game 300,” he said on SEN Breakfast.
“Richmond too, but Jack’s game… There are a lot of commentators who wrote Jack off two years ago.
“They said that he couldn’t jump, he can’t get to the contest anymore. Well, he can do all that stuff still and he (goes and) kicks six.
“I don’t know that anyone has ever played a better 300th game than Jack Riewoldt played the other night.”
Kane Cornes was full of superlatives for Riewoldt who was able to step up against the odds to help the Tigers snap a four-game losing streak.
“He was unbelievable,” he said.
“To get yourself up after the emotion of the week. I thought the club did it amazingly well the way they celebrated the milestone.
“Then the shift of venue which locked some of his family out. Phenomenal.
“Players are just going to play longer. I look at other players around 30 and they’ve genuinely got five years to go some of them. Jack is probably in that category.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/19/riewoldt-unbelievable-and-phenomenal-but-a-bridge-too-far-with-no-dusty/
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Jack was circumspect about the rest of the season on 360 tonight.
He said we need to focus on what we can do well and eliminate the scoreboard from that. We want to focus on the process. It is harder to do that when you're not playing well. You can let the scoreboard dictate you. Felt if we kicked those three goals when we jumped Geelong in the 3rd qtr it could have got interesting.
Jack reckons for us to make finals we will need to win all 4 remaining games or 3 of them well and then rely on other results going our way. He added that we know when we play our best footy we are a good side but we're further off than we'd liked to be. A quarter has cost us: obviously against Geelong on the weekend but even against Brisbane our second quarter was off.
Jack also said if we make it we make it and squeeze into the Eight but if we don't win this week then we'll reassess and use it as a building block going forward.
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Jack Riewoldt (Richmond) – 44 GOALS
Run home: Fremantle, North Melbourne, GWS Giants, Hawthorn
Riewoldt has experience on his side, having claimed the Coleman Medal in 2010, 2012 and 2018. In the last of those years, he kicked five goals in the final round to storm home, so never rule him out. Riewoldt only kicked one goal against round 22 opponents Greater Western Sydney earlier this season, but added four earlier in the year against round 23 foes Hawthorn. It leaves him in a good position to potentially make up an eight-goal deficit to McKay.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/654626
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It will be the last thing on Jack's mind and it's unlikely he'll make up the gap anyway, but if McKay (shoulder), Bruce (leg) & obviously Walker all miss the rest of the season then Jack is the co-highest ranked player in the Coleman medal race still playing. He would need 12 goals though in the last two rounds to win it (11 to tie).
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Gee when he is off he is wayyyyyyyy off.
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He's being blanketed by a good player and the game is up the other end
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Yeah you'd think he'd up & about after nailing one his best set shot goals in ages early on...oh wait.... ::)
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Awesome player but putrid tonight :shh
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Looking forward to a holiday by the looks of it.
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Looking forward to a holiday by the looks of it.
I know I am ;D
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Jack and lynch have proved that no player is bigger than the club. If anyone thinks we don’t need to keep developing CCJ then watch Jack last night.
He had a great season, but so what. He doesn’t impact any games if he isn’t scoring that’s the big difference I’ve taken away. One more year out of respect but no guarantee of a game. Same goes for Lynch.
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Yeah we're not going to cut Lynch loose with 3 years to go on a huge contract and he won't start getting dropped either... :shh
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15 games + finals if we make it - absolute max next year.
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Jack finished third in the Coleman.
Coleman Medal top top
58 Harry McKay
54 Tom Hawkins
51 Jack Riewoldt
48 Lance Franklin
48 Josh Bruce
48 Taylor Walker
47 Ben King
47 Charlie Cameron
47 Bayley Fritsch
46 Charlie Dixon
https://www.afl.com.au/news/666733/harry-mckay-has-won-the-2021-coleman-medal
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Not a bad year for a bloke almost 33. Certainly better than I expected this year. Just wanted him to get the 300/700.
Expectations for 2022?
I'm thinking he'll play 15-20 games and jag 30 odd goals before calling time.
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Play ever match in 2022, hopefully no injuries and finals. Another Premiership to make it 4/6 would be lovely?
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... Jack Riewoldt will retire next year ...
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/hawks-mcrae-leads-field-for-collingwood-coach-as-houli-laments-retirement/news-story/bd353f47c04102aae42811fcfcc1c511)
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Jack Riewoldt has taken out Richmond’s leading goalkicker award, the Michael Roach Medal, for the 11th time.
Number of times reaching 50+ goals in a season
Jack Titus 10
Jack Riewoldt 9
Matthew Richardson 8
Dick Harris 6
Michael Roach 5
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1007572/riewoldt-continues-goalden-run
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Not new news but here's the confirmation in the media that Jack has re-signed.
Riewoldt, who turns 33 next month, kicked 51 goals this season and has signed on for next year.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/673366/cerra-meets-with-clubs-young-tiger-weighs-offer-eagle-staying-put
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Jack wasn't emotional and crying with joy after our 2017 Prelim win.
He swallowed a bug and was trying/hoping to cough it up and spit it out.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTmNOi1hryx/
:laugh:
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Not new news but here's the confirmation in the media that Jack has re-signed.
Riewoldt, who turns 33 next month, kicked 51 goals this season and has signed on for next year.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/673366/cerra-meets-with-clubs-young-tiger-weighs-offer-eagle-staying-put
51 goals is not to be sneezed at, however his staying means CCJ is more likely to leave, it may have been better if Jack had retired.
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Are you serious?
Some people are seriously deluded.
The grass isn’t always greener
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Are you serious?
Some people are seriously deluded.
The grass isn’t always greener
Take a look at Geelongs old brigade. We need to start a succession plan at some stage.
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Are you serious?
Some people are seriously deluded.
The grass isn’t always greener
Take a look at Geelongs old brigade. We need to start a succession plan at some stage.
Yep. Jack had a great year but we are one injury short out of those 2 and it’s a bottom finish for us.
We will have no back up at all.
Decisions like the one to give George multi year contracts will come back to bite.
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I don't see why we can't play all of Lynch, Jack and CCJ. Just got the make sure we have a good 2-3 chasers in the rest of the forward line.
51 goals and a solid year. Definitely deserved another year. CCJ has bagged 4 against Crapelaide so far.
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Are you serious?
Some people are seriously deluded.
The grass isn’t always greener
Take a look at Geelongs old brigade. We need to start a succession plan at some stage.
Comparing to Geelong now :lol
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Are you serious?
Some people are seriously deluded.
The grass isn’t always greener
Take a look at Geelongs old brigade. We need to start a succession plan at some stage.
Yes, Geelong’s old brigade where there 33yo full forward comes runner up in the Colman :whistle
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This seems to be a “keep CCJ” angle. If CCJ had his head screwed on properly, he’d be training hard to be the 2nd ruck choice over Soldo and lap up the lessons learnt from playing alongside a once a generation key forward like Jack.
If he can’t see the benefit in that for one more year before making that position his own in 2023 then see ya bra.
Take the money and run CCJ.
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Dont have a problem keeping JR for another season but lets be honest there is absolutely no one else coming thru.
We really need to address the huge need to draft a quality young key forward this coming draft. Even then it will be three years too late.
People dont get it either. CC-J is not leaving to get KPF opportunities he is leaving to get ruck opportunities which is clearly his primary role.
Imo we are not losing a key forward but a promising ruckman.
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Jack Riewoldt has enjoyed a superb career in the yellow and black.
But at 33 and entering his 16th season, is his best behind him? Has Riewoldt got another good year in him?
“He’s got moments of very good in him which will still work for the club,” was Dermie’s snap judgement on the 715-goal forward.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/17/have-we-seen-the-best-of-lynch-and-riewoldt-should-dusty-captain-the-tigers/)
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I was told today while watching training that Jack won't join the main group for preseason training until the new year. Nothing wrong as far as injury or anything like that. Just doesn't need to do 5 months worth of preseason training at his age.
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He's also doing this 'Ride for Ryan' thing in Tassie which will keep him pretty fit.
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He's also doing this 'Ride for Ryan' thing in Tassie which will keep him pretty fit.
True. Cheers FFV.
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Tasmanian @Richmond_FC champion @JackRiewoldt08 has opened up about his growing friendship with Ryan Wiggins and his quest to raise money to support the young footballer’s recovery from a devastating spinal injury. Watch @WINNews_Tas at 5.30pm for the story 🚴
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https://twitter.com/WINNews_Tas/status/1466564754378346498
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Good Man
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Jack riding up Mount Rumney as part of the 'Ride for Ryan'.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXFc32CFofI/
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Jack's footage of Ride for Ryan.
Watch: https://www.instagram.com/stories/riewoldtjack08/2731591198190788159/
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THEY DID IT! 👏💙
Jack Riewoldt, Richie Porte and their team have made it to Hobart after riding 284km from Devonport today to raise money for Ryan Wiggins!
More than $80,000 now has been raised for 26 year old Tasmanian Ryan Wiggins, who survived a devastating spinal injury which resulted in a highly severe, near fatal, C2 fracture to his spinal cord.
Ryan has spent the last 5 months hospitalized in Melbourne, and has only recently returned home to Tasmania to continue his recovery and rehabilitation.
All funds raised from Ride For Ryan will go towards Ryan’s rehabilitation essentials, house renovations and expert care.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/2297566937190272/posts/3081529925460632/
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Good man our Jack
Will be faster than applying to the poo-show that is NDIS.
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Fresh from his epic charity ride across the state, Richmond AFL star Jack Riewoldt has signed on as the ambassador of an iconic Tasmanian bakery.
https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/jack-riewoldt-to-honour-hillcrest-primary-school-victims-in-ride-for-ryan/news-story/104de577b937ba4bb26b7bb09a19106b
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‘You can’t hang around forever’
Riewoldt said he and his fellow premiership stars were mindful of their legacy and desire to leave the club in a strong position.
Riewoldt, 33, said he had been in regular discussions with the club about when the right time would be for him to end a glittering career that has yielded three flags, 715 goals – including being an 11-time club leading goal-kicker – and this year almost certainly will have him pass Jack Dyer (311 matches) into second spot behind only Kevin Bartlett for most senior games by a Tiger.
While the passion to play burns as bright as ever, Riewoldt understands this could be his final season.
“Some people wrote me off a couple of years ago. I am coming to a period of my career that every year you roll into could possibly be your last one. And, also, organically for the team, you can’t hang around forever,” he said.
“We have got young kids coming through that I think are going to be fantastic players for the Richmond Football Club going forward. They need to be afforded the opportunity of playing and developing as well. So, whether that is with me in the team or not in the team when that happens, that is something that I have discussions about all the time.
“Ultimately, I don’t want to leave this club, and a lot of the older guys that are in that window in the next three to four years who may be finishing up don’t want to see the club fall in a heap and we have just served ourselves in terms of what we have been lucky enough to do. We want to see the success of this club go forever. That’s the one thing a few of that older group are focusing on – that legacy piece more than anything else.”
Riewoldt admitted his young family was now a greater priority than football, while off-field prospects would also be a consideration. He is already dabbling in a media career and on Wednesday was unveiled as a brand ambassador for the Hobart-based National Pies, with a pie to be named after him soon.
The retirements of premiership stars David Astbury and Bachar Houli last year signalled change at Punt Road, while former skipper Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards are among those whose careers are likely to end over the next couple of years.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/riewoldt-on-retirement-legacy-and-richmond-s-very-special-new-player-20220216-p59wv7.html)
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Richmond champion Jack Riewoldt ponders life after brilliant AFL career as more family time beckons
Jack Riewoldt is unsure how much longer he will play for, but he knows he wants to spend more time with his young family
Marc McGowan
News.com.au
February 17, 2022 - 4:04PM
Richmond star Jack Riewoldt had longer than usual to consider his football mortality in the off-season.
With the Tigers missing finals after a masterful four-year run that delivered three premierships, Riewoldt packed up and headed home to Tasmania for more than two months.
His wife, Carly, is also from the Apple Isle and they saw Richmond’s shock fate as a rare chance for their daughters, Poppy and Hazel, to spend extended time with their grandparents.
Riewoldt “cried like a baby” having to leave Carly and then-one-year-old Poppy behind to move into a Queensland quarantine hub to help keep the 2020 AFL season going.
Hazel arrived since then, so how the Tigers are faring, his 33-year-old body is holding up and what he’s producing individually on-field are no longer the main factors in how long Riewoldt plays for.
“I don’t know how long I’ve got left and I don’t really like to put a number on it,” he told News Corp.
“But my 23-year-old self thinks completely differently to my 33-year-old self, obviously with life circumstances and whatnot.
“I have a young family and I want to spend more time with them. If I feel like football’s getting in the way of that, then this may be my last year.
“But if I can continue to juggle it, then I’ll continue to juggle it, because you’re a long time retired.
“There are hard sessions you get to the end of and think, ‘Bloody hell, what am I doing this for?’ but there are so many great things about being around a football club, and when my time comes, I will miss them.”
Riewoldt still has plenty to offer on the evidence of his 51-goal season last year and ideally wants to serve the club he loves for as long as it needs him.
His honour roll is already immense: three flags, two Jack Dyer medals as Richmond club champion, three Coleman Medals, three All-Australian selections and 11-time club-leading goalkicker.
Riewoldt sits comfortably among the all-time Tasmanian football greats and he’s a fitting ambassador for the Hobart-based National Pies, which is set to name a pie after him.
The champion forward’s 305 games also sit behind only Kevin Bartlett (403) and Jack Dyer (311) in Tigers history, while he has also been vice-captain since 2017.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-champion-jack-riewoldt-ponders-life-after-brilliant-afl-career-as-more-family-time-beckons/news-story/0549bc417d06641f55e9bd544f755427
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Thrilled this guy got his 300/700.
Happy for him to go again but I hope he never falls off the cliff too much.
Better a year early than a day late.
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Thing is Jack is not holding any young key forwards back we just dont have any.
Personally i think all the signs are there that this is the last roll of the dice. Would not be surprised if its Balta and Lynch for most games with no Jack. I hope not and i really want to see how the three go together. Would be great to see him go out on a high but as stated im a bit worried that it will end that way.
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Jack Riewoldt on AFL 360:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMragAztnoU
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Another key injury. Just great! :(
Dimma said Jack has fractured his thumb. That's why he went off early and we didn't have his usual impact.
Possibly will require surgery. Not sure yet.
:scream
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Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said the veteran spearhead could require surgery.
"I think Jack might have fractured his thumb," Hardwick said in his post-match press conference on Thursday night.
"He'll have scans to confirm it that’s why he went off early and probably struggled to hold the ball a little bit tonight. We'll get more details out when we find out possibly tomorrow."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1080078/injury-concerns-for-key-tiger-duo
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From bad to worse
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Not a disaster that Jack will be out. We were top heavy anyway and I reckon we need a more mobile player like Cumberland in there. Balta more time forward, and hopefully Vlastuin gets back to bolster the defence soon.
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He lacked mobility and wasn’t jumping at the ball at all - maybe he fractured his toe as well ;D
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He lacked mobility and wasn’t jumping at the ball at all - maybe he fractured his toe as well ;D
True it should not hide how poor he actually was.
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Jack Riewoldt will undergo surgery tonight to repair a fractured thumb.
The injury occurred in the first quarter of Thursday night’s match against Carlton at the MCG.
The injury in considered to be short term.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1504698472229793792
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7news claiming Jack will miss 3 weeks.
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Jon Ralph on Ch 7 said Jack's surgery last night went very well. It wasn't a scaphoid fracture so it's not a 6-8 week injury. Jack will miss the GWS game but could be back for the following week against the Saints.
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Glad it’s not scaphoid , nasty lingering injury, broke mine punching the back of a head with my thumb inside my fingers in the excitement of the moment, then broke it coming back too early for the finals.
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The club expects the 33-year-old to miss this Sunday's clash against Greater Western Sydney and potentially the clash against St Kilda at the MCG the following week.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/724557/gun-tiger-grounded-by-another-soft-tissue-injury)
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Update from Peter Burge:
Jack Riewoldt, thumb
"It's a short-term recovery. Jack's had a plate put into the base of the thumb, his metacarpal. It's a short-term turnaround, so he won't play this week and then we'll reassess his availability for next week."
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1083906/injury-report-round-2-2022)
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Jack on AFL360 tonight said he wanted to play this week but he wasn't allowed to. Likely out for 1-2 weeks. Depends on how it's healed once the gigantic bandage is taken off.
He did the injury in the first 2 minutes of the game trying to spoil. Knew he had done something straight away as his thumb had shifted. The surgery put in a plate and six screws. He's got a two inch cut on his thumb so they needed to be careful about infection.
Edit: Here's a replay of Jack on AFL360: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNYJl5Cllyc
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1506850143361851393
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Jack said on AFL360 last night that he has been given the all clear by the medicos. It's now about testing the functionality of his thumb/hand and seeing how he goes at training (which I think is tomorrow).
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7news showed Jack at training today marking the ball comfortably a few times.
Go to 1:22 min mark: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1509039560419790854
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Apparently has a skin infection in his hand
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Apparently has a skin infection in his hand
Yep.
Mitch Cleary (7news) mentioned it on twitter.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1509366086608646146
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Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt has suffered a fresh setback in his quest to return from a broken thumb.
@cleary_mitch spoke with him today. #7AFL #7NEWS
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1509438599216828416
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Rest him. No rush
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He will need to get through Friday's main training session to prove his fitness for Sunday's clash.
"I've been cleared to play by the surgeon but it's more about just functionally whether I can play and mark the ball. So that will hopefully happen tomorrow and then we'll see what happens,' Riewoldt said.
"It hasn't been too bad. I've had a little tiny bit of a skin infection in it as well. That's just part of having surgery and having open wounds and what not, having small children and everything that comes home from daycare.
"In terms of how I'm tracking, I feel like I'm tracking really good ... I feel pretty confident in the body."
https://www.naroomanewsonline.com.au/story/7681799/riewoldt-eyes-afl-return-against-saints/?cs=4783
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Jack trained fully today.
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No picked to play.
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Is it time for Jack Riewoldt to follow the Richo model?
Wayne Carey
The Age
April 7, 2022 — 3.33pm
After a meeting with Terry Wallace in early 2008, Matthew Richardson thought his career was just about over. Wallace, then the coach of Richmond, told “Richo” he wanted him to play on a wing to help fast-track the development of a young forward who was showing a bit of promise.
That young forward was Jack Riewoldt.
Richo has said previously he wasn’t all that thrilled with the idea initially, but the alternative was being banished to Coburg.
Remarkably, by the end of that season, Richo had his third All-Australian jumper and almost won the Brownlow Medal. He was the overwhelming sentimental favourite on a rowdy Brownlow night, and only finished two votes behind winner Adam Cooney.
Richo’s incredible athleticism meant he could roam up and down the wing, with enough in the tank to push forward and still kick goals. Now with the Tigers at a new crossroads, could Damien Hardwick go to the same playbook?
In round one, Richmond looked top heavy against the Blues, playing Noah Balta up forward alongside Riewoldt and Tom Lynch, as well as ruckmen Toby Nankervis and Ivan Soldo. It’s an intriguing evolution considering Riewoldt played as the lone tall forward in that 2017 premiership year.
Back then he had the pressure of Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli at his feet – and more recently Jack Higgins also played that role. But now Higgins and Butler are gone and Rioli is playing back. Clearly having the three talls contributed to that un-Richmond-like stat of one forward-50 tackle for the entire game against Carlton.
Since then, Riewoldt hasn’t played due to a thumb injury, ensuring Balta has stayed forward and in the short time he’s played there he’s shown he’s worth persisting with. He’s what I’d describe as an old-fashioned centre half-forward. He’ll fly at anything, has a competitiveness to bring the ball to ground and is a good kick. While Balta still needs to work on his forward craft and work out other ways to win the footy, the potential is there and his coach can obviously see it.
But with Riewoldt’s return this weekend, Hardwick’s call to play the three talls in the same forward line this week against the Dogs, as he indicated he would at his press conference on Thursday, is an interesting one. West Coast is about the only team to buck the trend and make it work in recent years. There’s an element of robbing Peter to pay Paul with what you get in terms of marking power, versus losing that trademark pressure.
So how sustainable is that three-pronged attack? The Balta question is probably answered by where the Tigers think they’re at.
By recruiting Robbie Tarrant from North Melbourne, they clearly believed they were still in a premiership window. But at the same time, by heading to the draft as they did, there was also an awareness this will soon be a team in transition, or at the very least one needing regeneration.
It’s probably difficult to say whether the dynasty is over just yet, because there are so many key cogs missing from the Tiger machine. When Alex Rance went down, some questioned whether that was the end, but Dylan Grimes quickly became one of Hardwick’s most important players. He could and still can lock down and intercept.
Last week against the Saints we saw how much his absence is felt, when Max King booted a match-winning four goals after Grimes went off injured. When you add the retirement of David Astbury, who was a solid citizen, and injury to Nick Vlastuin, the Tigers really have been decimated.
Clearly Dustin Martin is another one of those cogs. Players of “Dusty’s” ilk are impossible to replace. But, right now, the Tigers’ problems run much deeper than lacking a few defenders or Dusty. Their entire team defence is breaking down.
Almost as important as Martin, in my eyes, has been the loss of Kane Lambert, who is out indefinitely with a hip injury. Lambert has been a selfless, two-way runner who has allowed guys like Dusty or Shai Bolton to focus on the attacking side of their game. Martin and Bolton can take a game away from you, but pressure is not necessarily their strength and that’s where Lambert played his role to perfection.
Without those cogs, judging the three talls is more difficult.
We’ve only had one game to see whether Riewoldt, Balta and Lynch can work together. If it doesn’t work again on Saturday night, Hardwick has a few options.
As long as Riewoldt is fit, is Balta made to bide his time continuing to play as a swing man or as a second ruckman? Or, as I’ve mentioned, if Balta is the future, can Jack play further up the ground?
In the past five years or so, we’ve seen Jack’s willingness to put the team first by transforming his game from simply kicking goals to providing for those around him. He might not have Richo’s running power, but he’s got more than enough footy smarts and experience to cope with another new role.
Already there’s been one Riewoldt who followed the Richo model – Jack’s cousin Nick finished his career in similar fashion on a wing. Is it now time for another?
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/is-it-time-for-jack-riewoldt-to-follow-the-richo-model-20220407-p5abpb.html
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Yeah..nah Wayne. Both Richo and N Riewoldt could still run like the wind when they moved to the wing. Jack can't run away from his own shadow.
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Jack's response to Carey's article:
Listen here: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=980181
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Summary:
* Jack said, "There's no hope in hell of playing on the wing". He watched Langdon run 16km up and down the wing last night and said he can't do that.
* Jack said his thumb is feeling real good and his body is refreshed after two weeks off not playing.
* Him, Lynch and Balta have only played once together. He believes it works. Jack will play "smaller" as he is more a lead up forward compared to Lynch and Balta who play differently.
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Is there a record for shots after the siren? Because Jack just had three for 1.1 and 1ootf haha.
Should have punted that last one seriously.
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Last time I say Jack can no longer kick goals from beyond 50m at his age :o :snidegrin.
ps. Hard to go past a torpedo goal :bow. Sadly a dying art when it is such a devastating kick when executed well.
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From Matthew Lloyd:
5. Jack Riewoldt
“I think Jack Riewoldt is a beautiful kick as well around the ground.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/11/matthew-lloyds-top-7-key-forwards-with-the-best-field-kicks-in-the-afl/
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I miss the old fashioned drop kick. Done well it can go 60 meters.
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Jack Riewoldt has earned his 'torp license' (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2705.png) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f606.png)
Watch Jack on AFL360 last night: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1513823110910251008
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Jack wins family bragging rights
It was a quiet day out for Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt but he did take some family bragging rights away from Adelaide Oval. Riewoldt started game 308 on 718 career goals, equal with cousin Nick. He couldn't get his hands on the footy through the first quarter, but late in the second Jack found himself clear in the forward line, marked a centering kick and calmly went back to slot the goal. It may not have been the most spectacular of his career, but it's sure to get a mention at Christmas dinner. Now, his second for the match was a lot more interesting!
Source: AFL media (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1105209/tigers-fall-short-against-crows)
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Kicked a couple of goals but take them away and i thought it a pretty ordinary game.
Am i seeing it right? i thought the fwd line functioned better without JR and Parker combined with Balta and Lynch
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Kicked a couple of goals but take them away and i thought it a pretty ordinary game.
Am i seeing it right? i thought the fwd line functioned better without JR and Parker combined with Balta and Lynch
I agree. He is quite stuffed IMO. Shame but true.
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Jack now in the top 20 goalkickers of all time. Needs 6 more goals to go past Carey and Hudson.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/careergoals.html
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Esteemed company.
Gee never thought he'd go past Carey.
Amazes me how many salty supporters still call him junk time Jack or a whinger etc
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Up there with the smartest player I’ve ever watched in my time watching the game.
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Esteemed company.
Gee never thought he'd go past Carey.
Amazes me how many salty supporters still call him junk time Jack or a whinger etc
I understand why opposition supporters would call him a whinger
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Why? And don’t you find that ironic?
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Absolute legend of the game.
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Champion. End of story
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Up there with the smartest player I’ve ever watched in my time watching the game.
Agree.
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Up there with the smartest player I’ve ever watched in my time watching the game.
Out of interest HRT who would be second IYO?
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Esteemed company.
Gee never thought he'd go past Carey.
Amazes me how many salty supporters still call him junk time Jack or a whinger etc
Has been a great servant of the club for me. as far as tall fwds go only behind Richardson and Roach.I pick Roach because i think him the better player and his goal average of over 3 a game lends weight to the argument and Roach is one of just two tigers to kick 100 goals in a season that makes him i believe a part of a group of just 21players achieving the feat.
If selecting an all time side today would have to be in the team as the third tall.
An all time side makes for interesting reading. I suppose we had the Team of the century but i disagreed with one selection there. I thought a bloke called Richard (Dick) Harris should have joined Bartlett as a magnificent rover but a mighty goal kicking one.
Harris kicked 548 goals in just 196 games at what is for us the 4th highest goalkicking average at 2.80.Harris also topped the league goal kicking in 1943 and ours in 37 and 44. He played in two premierships in what was probably the toughest period the game was played in.
To put that in perspective only two fwds have ever averaged more than 3 goals a game for us in Titus 3.30 and Roach 3.04
Richo is the only other in front of him at 2.84 followed by Harris 2.80 and JR at 2.34
Of the 98 players who have managed more then 400 goals in their careers, 400 seems to be the AFL benchmark that average places Harris in the top 30.
Reckon id go with the following including Jack
Titus 970g at 3.30 - Roach 607g at 3.04 - Riewoldt 722g at 2.34
Hart 369g at 1.97 - Richardson 800g at 2.84 - Harris 548g at 2.80
Bartlett 778g at 1.93 would be starting rover changing fwd with Harris.
I reckon Riewoldt deserves to be in that above company based on his exploits and especially his goal kicking prowess over a long period of time.
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Some players make the ball obey them ... Jack is one of those.
Peter Hudson also told the ball what to do ... now Jack is overtaking him ... :bow
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Some players make the ball obey them ... Jack is one of those.
Peter Hudson also told the ball what to do ... now Jack is overtaking him ... :bow
Sorry mate but Hudson and Jack are poles apart. I find it amazing that any one could put em in the same group.
That is no slurr on JR but Hudson was an absolute freak and if not for knee injuries would have been the greatest full forward of all time imo.He just kept on kicking goals no matter what.
Ironic how it panned out Both Hudson and Hart the two greatest Tassie fwds produced imo. were both cut down by knee injuries Hudsons basically costing 5 seasons when he was in his prime.
Still in his his 129 games he kicked 727 goals at what is still unbeaten by anyone an average of 5.64 goals a game.
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Up there with the smartest player I’ve ever watched in my time watching the game.
Out of interest HRT who would be second IYO?
There’s a cluster that I can split but always loved Diesel Williams.
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Up there with the smartest player I’ve ever watched in my time watching the game.
Agree
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Some players make the ball obey them ... Jack is one of those.
Peter Hudson also told the ball what to do ... now Jack is overtaking him ... :bow
Sorry mate but Hudson and Jack are poles apart. I find it amazing that any one could put em in the same group.
That is no slurr on JR but Hudson was an absolute freak and if not for knee injuries would have been the greatest full forward of all time imo.He just kept on kicking goals no matter what.
Ironic how it panned out Both Hudson and Hart the two greatest Tassie fwds produced imo. were both cut down by knee injuries Hudsons basically costing 5 seasons when he was in his prime.
Still in his his 129 games he kicked 727 goals at what is still unbeaten by anyone an average of 5.64 goals a game.
Two different types of players, you're right Huson was a freak, could read the drop of the ball like no one else, Jack is a football genius can read tha play like I've never seen before.
I was "lucky" enough to play in an exhibition match in Lonny back in 1983 against a Tassy Superules Rep team. Huddo was flown by chopper from Hobart to York Park as it was back then,. He landed at the ground at 1/2 time, he was overweight, unfit, couldn't run & still kicked 6 goals in the last half. I was mesmerized by his reading of the fall of the ball. Being able to be in position for the ball to just fall into his hands, freakish. I've never seen anything like it before or since.
But Jack is a much smarter player, head reads the play much better & could play in other positions, whereas Huddo was far more limited as to where he could play, he was very slow.
Ironically Hydro should have played for the Tigers but the Hawks trumped us.
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I agree. Hudson was a freak. Saw him play a comeback match at artic park after he had one of his knee injuries. He redid the knee in the first 5 minutes and eventually went off at half time. But on one leg in 2 quarters he kicked 8 goals. An absolute freak indeed.
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Heat on Riewoldt to save career amid struggles
Already in the twilight of career, Jack Riewoldt’s form is creating a huge problem for Richmond. He’s one of the big names on notice ahead of a huge weekend of football.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-jack-riewoldt-on-notice-aflw-season-confusion-and-jobe-watsons-bombers-snub/news-story/560b88657f870d2c9d972950fa1a7307
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This Jack draws level with that Jack for games played this weekend.
311 in total.
Equal second all time.
Still 92 games short of KB!
#GoTiges (https://abs.twimg.com/hashflags/AU_AFL_Team_Richmond_2022/AU_AFL_Team_Richmond_2022.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRwHMdpUcAALREu?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/_tigertime/status/1521098692018671618
Kevin Bartlett 403
Jack Dyer 311
Jack Riewoldt 311*
Francis Bourke 300
Wayne Campbell 297
Jack Titus 294
Shane Edwards 288*
Matt Richardson 282
Matthew Knights 279
Trent Cotchin 275*
Full games list: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
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What a champion.
I love the salty Oppo supporters too. There's no denying this man's greatness.
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Jack has now gone past Carey and Hudson on the all-time goalkicking tally. Needs 11 more to go ahead of Kernahan.
16. Stephen Kernahan 738
17. Bill Mohr 735
18. Jack Riewoldt 728
19. Wayne Carey 727
20. Peter Hudson 727
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/careergoals.html
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/you-can-all-go-and-get-fked/video/445e8be9c6019f912e46c0dc4de8414d
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Good giggle
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Jack Riewoldt (312 games) now ahead of Jack Dyer on our all-time games list. Only KB has played more games for Richmond.
Jack is also now 4th on the all-time list for goals at the M.C.G.
Riewoldt’s valuable three-goal return in Richmond’s 23-point victory over the Hawks took him past Bartlett (379), as well as former North Melbourne superstar Wayne Carey (380), and into fourth place on that list.
He has kicked a total of 382 goals at the MCG, with only Melbourne’s David Neitz 386, Essendon’s Matthew Lloyd 461, and Tigers great Matthew Richardson 464, ahead of him.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1126768/riewoldt-rising-fast-on-games-and-goals-lists
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Well he'd finish 3rd of all time then you'd think. Highly esteemed company.
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A very humble Jack Riewoldt on becoming outright second on Richmond's all-time games played list (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f60d.png)
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1527223360601567232
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Think he'll be in that #2 spot a while myself
I remember him as a kid and I couldn't be more proud too
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I had a bit (a very little bit) to do with Jack when he first came to Melbourne and started his AFL journey at Coburg.
Can honestly say he has not changed
Congrats, he's a champion of our Club
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Jack bags four.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1132822/round-10-jack-bags-four
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Bags 4.
Could have had 5-6.
I've been thinking he should retire but over the last month I am genuinely wondering if him and Cotch should maybe play another year. Still leads very well, smart around the ground (that left foot!) and he is hitting the scoreboard well. With Lynch being up and down I still think there's a spot for Jack but perhaps we need to find another key forward and maybe leave jack on the list with the expectation he might only play 15ish games.
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Jack and cotch look like theyve got this year and next in them. Shane Edwards should retire end of this season hrs done.
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Jack and cotch look like theyve got this year and next in them. Shane Edwards should retire end of this season hrs done.
Think sheds has been much improved in the last month. Either way I wouldn’t be offering any of them a new contract until the end of the season.
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Jack has another year in him. We need him just as much as he would love another year.
any other decision is the wrong one given the lack of talent we have coming through.
If he doesn't play last night we come close to losing.
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Either way ,due to our recruitment we need to keep him whilst we develop key forwards . Even if they get ready made key forward, it will mean they are trading our top picks otherwise it will be a hit or miss so Jack is insurance
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Veteran star still has some gas in the tank
At 33 and with 313 games on the odometer, Jack Riewoldt still has some high-quality performances left in the tank. Tom Lynch has been the star of the show in attack this season, but on Saturday night against Essendon it was all about the three-time Coleman medallist – and it might be in the coming weeks. Lynch suffered a hamstring injury against the Bombers and spent the final quarter on the bench after kicking 0.4 up until that point. Riewoldt produced his best performance of the season, finishing with 4.2 from 10 marks and eight score involvements. The three-time premiership player has been a star for a long time and doesn't want to exit the game quietly. - Josh Gabelich
https://www.afl.com.au/news/763674/nine-things-we-learned-there-s-a-new-superstar-in-town
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Jack Riewoldt on his AFL future and whether 2022 will be his final season.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1529764021955506177
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‘Why not?’ Riewoldt’s honest admission about AFL future ahead of potential ‘last opportunity’
Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
May 26th, 2022 8:57 pm
Three-time premiership Tiger Jack Riewoldt has given his biggest hint yet of what his future holds in 2023 and beyond.
Richmond’s star forward comes out of contract at the end of 2022 after more than a decade at the club.
Speaking on AFL360 on Thursday night, the three-time Coleman Medallist said he was simply taking it one week at a time.
“A lot of people have asked me when I’m re-signing over the last two weeks just because I’ve probably run into a little bit of form,” he laughed.
“I sort of don’t think too far past every week and whether or not I’ll play on next year or what it looks like.
“Chatting to (cousin and St Kilda great) Nick (Riewoldt) a little bit at the start of this year that if this is my last year, then these will be the last opportunities I get to play at the SCG, possibly the last Indigenous round last week and all of those things.
“It’s good to enjoy them for what it is.
“It’s been great, I’ve really enjoyed training and everything that comes with it. So we’ll wait and see.”
But as a “realist”, Riewoldt said he understood his future could change quickly.
“I’m a realist as well – at 33, I’ll be 34 at the end of this year, it only takes a poorer month of football to maybe lose a bit of love or maybe the club loses a bit of love in me and my direction changes,” he said.
“I’ve got other things in my life that I want to do as well.
“Why not think of it as your last opportunity to do these sort of things?
“It’s such a great journey and a great environment to work in … It makes me appreciate just how lucky I am to have been involved in a great football club and have a job like an AFL footballer.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/why-not-riewoldts-honest-admission-about-afl-future-ahead-of-potential-last-opportunity/news-story/b6c6520a02b01fcef38d7234150ae1c2
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Jack on AFL360 last night said he spent the bye weekend in hospital.
He broke his little finger on his right hand against Essendon and then it got infected in the Swans game. So he needed 3 days in hospital receiving antibiotics. He's been testing out a glove but hasn't yet decided if he'll wear it. The doc has apparently given his opinion but Jack is still weighing it up.
Confirmation: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1534132492902727680
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Jack Riewoldt was asked by Robbo and Kath Loughnan about next year.
Jack said he was happy with what he has achieved over his career even if Thursday night was his last game let alone this season. He added that this is a question for himself, Cotch, Sheds and Lambert and that for the sake of the Club you don't want all of them retiring at once because it would hurt the team.
He couldn't see himself playing for another existing club if Richmond said that's it after this year and another club came knocking wanting him to do a Luke Hodge role. However, if a Tassie team was coming in next year and they wanted him to be their inaugural captain he'd say yes.
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Thought he was sensational tonight. Might not have the hops that he used to but the effort is still well and truly there and his tackling was a feature tonight.
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Thought he was sensational tonight. Might not have the hops that he used to but the effort is still well and truly there and his tackling was a feature tonight.
Agree
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Jack went past Kernahan on the all-time goalkicking tally last night :clapping.
12. Matthew Richardson 800
13. Kevin Bartlett 778
14. Saverio Rocca 748
15. Barry Hall 746
16. Jack Riewoldt 739
17. Stephen Kernahan 738
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/careergoals.html
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So will almost certainly pass sav rocca and move into 14th by the end of the season. If he plays on next season can maybe pass KB into 13th which is the max he can get upto I think.
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On 24 after 11 games this year, let’s double that and then assume another 20 games and 35-40 goals in 2023.
Roughly 60ish goals to add to his 740ish so 800 is in the conversation
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Q: "It was this day last year that Jack Riewoldt confirmed he had formally agreed to a new contract. He's playing pretty well at the moment. Are you around a similar situation as far as talks?"
Dimma:
"Taking Jack out of it, it's that time of the year and contract wise players will be in and out of contract at various stages and we've got a lot of guys in and out of contract at the same time. Those conversations will be occurring at the back end of the year. All Jack can do is keep playing his role and keep playing well. He's had a very good year. He's lead from the front. He's a great ambassdor both on and off the field. From my point of view, I couldn't be more pleased with the way he's going at the moment."
Source: Hardwick's presser today. (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1154278/hardwick-previews-geelong?videoId=1154278&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1655859372001)
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If we HAD SOME PROMISING YOUNG KEY FORWARDS COMING THRU then id hope JR would retire. The fact we don't means it does not matter if he plays on the current list situation means he is needed.
Its an area they want to hurry up and address imo before he does retire and there is nothing coming thru.
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Can see Jack and possibly Cotch on current form going on another year. Sheds (age/slowing) and Lambert (hip) to retire this year. Touchwood, Grimesy has a couple of more years left in him. Dusty and Prestia are signed until 2024. Tarrant of course is a fill in and could retire either this or next year. Ideally, we will need to spread out the retirements of our vets so they don't leave in one hit. Even so, there's going to be at least a couple of lean years while we transition.
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"THEY'VE GONE BANANAS AT THE 'G!"
Shepmates & Jack Riewoldt ;D.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1541911487299878912
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Dimma wouldn't answer either way whether Jack will get a contract for next year or not. Dimma agreed that Jack is playing well but he also said decisions will have to be made at the end of the year given our aging list and younger blokes coming through.
ps. Jack will be on AFL360 tomorrow night.
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Jack is realistic about it.
Wouldn't surprise me if another club offered him a contract if we don't, but I dunno if he'd bother.
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WATCH: ‘Dance him!’ Sledges and ‘sucking up to the ump’ as Tigers champion mic’d up
Fox Footy
July 4th, 2022 9:45 pm
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From sledging opponents to “sucking up to the umpire”, footy fans have been given an insight into what it’s like playing against Richmond star Jack Riewoldt.
The champion forward was hooked up to a microphone during the Tigers’ win over West Coast on Sunday, with some of the highlights shared across Fox Footy’s Monday night shows.
First, on On the Couch, Riewoldt’s cousin Nick suggested Jack was “sucking up to the umpire” after being caught holding the ball by Eagles defender Tom Barrass.
“Great call,” Jack said.
Nick jokingly replied: “Great call, he said to the umpire. Now I know you’re wearing a mic, you know you’re wearing your mic, I’ve been with you enough on Christmas Day to know you would never tell an umpire that was a great call.
“Disingenuous.”
Then on AFL 360, Riewoldt was shown sledging West Coast speedster Jack Petruccelle following a 50-metre penalty which gave him a shot on goal.
“Hey Jack, I reckon that’s a 35-metre 50 metre penalty. You wouldn’t want to miss it now. You were hoping to get a little bit closer!” Riewoldt told Petruccelle.
“Dance him! You’re the quickest bloke in the AFL, dance him!”
Riewoldt was also shown speaking to the Tigers’ forward group at quarter-time, including Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards and Maurice Rioli.
“The other one is, I reckon we’re hesitating a little bit,” he told them.
“The backs have been spoken to, their forwards are getting all the way up, and we’re sorta looking around going ‘aww, I need to go back to him’.
“Go forward to your man. Go forward to your man.”
Watch the footage in this link: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-jack-riewoldt-micd-up-video-richmond-vs-west-coast-highlights-sledges-jack-petruccelle-sucks-up-to-umpire/news-story/3a2c5ca83bca5b0fbbb6d4676f4cfd5c
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Dimma wouldn't answer either way whether Jack will get a contract for next year or not. Dimma agreed that Jack is playing well but he also said decisions will have to be made at the end of the year given our aging list and younger blokes coming through.
ps. Jack will be on AFL360 tomorrow night.
That is an utter bull dust statement.WHAT YOUNG KPF 'S DO WE HAVE COMING THRU.
Think about it with no kids there to take games off, Jack is needed more than ever.
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That is an utter bull dust statement.WHAT YOUNG KPF 'S DO WE HAVE COMING THRU.
Think about it with no kids there to take games off, Jack is needed more than ever.
If Jack, Shedda and Lambert retire, take it to the bank that we'll be making a trade play for a young KPF, or targeting a couple in the draft. You're right, we don't have one coming through (we lost CCJ and Chol) but we won't be sitting on our hands waiting for Baker or Maurice to put on 45cm in the off season.
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That is an utter bull dust statement.WHAT YOUNG KPF 'S DO WE HAVE COMING THRU.
Think about it with no kids there to take games off, Jack is needed more than ever.
If Jack, Shedda and Lambert retire, take it to the bank that we'll be making a trade play for a young KPF, or targeting a couple in the draft. You're right, we don't have one coming through (we lost CCJ and Chol) but we won't be sitting on our hands waiting for Baker or Maurice to put on 45cm in the off season.
Where do you think we are going to pluck a forward from?? Claw is spot on if Jack retired we are completely stuffed. Why wouldn’t we go hard for a Bobby Hill so we don’t have to see Castagna again?
I suspect one of balta or gibcus will be tried more often as a forward cause let’s face it in a few years what will we have?
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That is an utter bull dust statement.WHAT YOUNG KPF 'S DO WE HAVE COMING THRU.
Think about it with no kids there to take games off, Jack is needed more than ever.
If Jack, Shedda and Lambert retire, take it to the bank that we'll be making a trade play for a young KPF, or targeting a couple in the draft. You're right, we don't have one coming through (we lost CCJ and Chol) but we won't be sitting on our hands waiting for Baker or Maurice to put on 45cm in the off season.
Hopefully not Dan McCrap from Brisvegas
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Where do you think we are going to pluck a forward from?? Claw is spot on if Jack retired we are completely stuffed. Why wouldn’t we go hard for a Bobby Hill so we don’t have to see Castagna again?
I suspect one of balta or gibcus will be tried more often as a forward cause let’s face it in a few years what will we have?
We landed Lynch didn't we? If retirements open up space in our cap, then we'd be a tempting proposition for some key forwards. If Tex signs on for two more years at Adelaide, one might squeeze out from there. Ben King might want to come back to Melbourne, the Bombers have a couple of young guys that might want out. Who knows?
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That is an utter bull dust statement.WHAT YOUNG KPF 'S DO WE HAVE COMING THRU.
Think about it with no kids there to take games off, Jack is needed more than ever.
If Jack, Shedda and Lambert retire, take it to the bank that we'll be making a trade play for a young KPF, or targeting a couple in the draft. You're right, we don't have one coming through (we lost CCJ and Chol) but we won't be sitting on our hands waiting for Baker or Maurice to put on 45cm in the off season.
Hopefully not Dan McCrap from Brisvegas
that useless pile of crap. Pass
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Where do you think we are going to pluck a forward from?? Claw is spot on if Jack retired we are completely stuffed. Why wouldn’t we go hard for a Bobby Hill so we don’t have to see Castagna again?
I suspect one of balta or gibcus will be tried more often as a forward cause let’s face it in a few years what will we have?
We landed Lynch didn't we? If retirements open up space in our cap, then we'd be a tempting proposition for some key forwards. If Tex signs on for two more years at Adelaide, one might squeeze out from there. Ben King might want to come back to Melbourne, the Bombers have a couple of young guys that might want out. Who knows?
we did mate, but Lynch had checked out. King wont leave coming off an ACL and with Suns on the rise. We need solid mids so Dusty can play deep forward and stay there.
Can we prize CCJ back with pick 49? :lol
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I wonder sometimes a we following the roos of 2022 or Richmond so much doom and gloom.
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Dark clouds everywhere but I see patches of blue sky , if Jack doesn’t retire we would still need to draft a couple of key forwards , if he does someone to hold the fort for a year or two while the kids develop .
Other sides manage a mini rebuild without bottoming out, no reason we can’t but will need some clever recruiting
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Love ya Jack but that was arguably one of the worst games you've played. Especially after Lynch went off we needed leadership
and a steady head in the forward line and as a target down the line yet we instead got far too many unrealistic flies that gifted Collins free kicks. Not good enough from a senior player.
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No not his fault. He was surrounded by useless small forwards tonight.
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Love ya Jack but that was arguably one of the worst games you've played. Especially after Lynch went off we needed leadership
and a steady head in the forward line and as a target down the line yet we instead got far too many unrealistic flies that gifted Collins free kicks. Not good enough from a senior player.
Still gets on the end of a lead and crumbs from time to time but IMO is uncompetitive in a 1:1 marking contest.
If he's on a lead he's OK.
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I agree was very poor. Is serviceable as a second option but as the No.1 option, he’s past his time.
Too many times he goes for a speccy because he doesn’t have the hops to jump above his opponent and ends up giving away free kicks.
Small forwards were poor but so was he.
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Agree with this, although kicked 3, including what should have been a very big goal in the last.
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Beggars can't be choosers and hes all we have not Jacks fault thats down to list management and mc.
When you sit and think about it no Lynch and Jack has two or even three to contend with realistically he should not have got a sniff of it.
Next week i hope Balta is fit to play fwd/ruck and they also play Gibcus as the third tall fwd
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Some ripper stories from Jack Riewoldt about his childhood and football career in this week’s ep.
A real pleasure chatting with the @Richmond_FC champ.
Open spotify link here: https://twitter.com/AlisterNicho/status/1546632700525965312
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Dimma recalled Jack putting his hand up in the review meeting and admitting to the group that he didn't get his job done. Dimma said owning up is what you expect from a leader of our club like Jack.
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Fair call , but there is pattern to what's happening it's not a one off issue.
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Richmond immortal and deserves to make the call himself but for me looks like it’s time to pull the pin.
Surprised no posts on here, he can barely get off the ground anymore.
I know people will say well he has to play on because we don’t have any other options. To me that doesn’t matter anymore. Play any tall we have there in his place or draft/trade for one or just play a small forward line.
I didn’t watch the second half of the game because I was so disgusted at the first half but I did tune back in for the last 2 mins (wish I hadn’t) and I saw Cumberland take a very strong contested mark in a pack of like 10 players. Don’t think jack has that in him anymore so worst case I’d play Cumberland with Lynch.
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I'm unsure about this call. I am a huge Jack fan but am totally fine with him being in his twlight and if he retired I'd be OK with it.
He still had 6 shots on goal today as our main KP forward, which he shouldn't be. Jack has played over 300 games and needs to be 3rd or 2nd forward. I'd still have Jack for next year if his body holds up. Needs Lynch playing.
Had 16 touches, 8 marks, 8 shots on goal. I don't think they are stats of someone who is finished. Goal kicking accuracy was hugely costly but I don't think moving Jack on will improve us at all.
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Wouldn't give him a contact trying to be to cute and selfish at times.
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Said it a few times he's cooked. Can't compete in the air or in a 1:1 tussle. Always looking for a cheap bounce, a silly tap or handball etc. A shadow of the competitive beast he used to be. Sometimes turns in on for a quarter here and there but never a sustained 4 quarter effort.
Time to target a KPF like Fogarty and retire Jack to the HOF.
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Jack's game:
16 disposals (14k, 2h, 5c, 11u, 37.5% eff.)
8 marks ( 1 contested mark )
2 tackles ( both In50 )
1 clearance
2 inside 50s
336 metres gained
12 score involvements
2 goals
6 behinds
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Forget the stats, he was crap bar a two minute period with two goals in it.
Like I said earlier, largely uncompetitive except for a quarter or so here and there but never a full game anymore, nor even a majority of a game.
2.6 from your experienced spearhead is garbage.
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So every one wants to retire him off. Can anyone tell me who are they expecting to get to take over. You know what i hear buddy wants out of Sydney lol.
Once we have someone anyone who can hold down a kpf post then yes id suggest we retire him but you know what no one is talking depth getting one kpf from where ever will not fix our problem. what happens when Lynchy or the new guy or even both get hurt.
Fmd we could get the best key forward in the draft but most likely he won't be ready for at least two or three seasons.
The list demands we have around four key forwards in various stages of development we have two and if we pension off one of them then we will need to get three key forwards into the system and hope Lynch can stand up and stay fit.
For me for now Riewoldt stays and we do what should have been done years ago we draft the best possible kpf in the nd x 2 and find if need be a journeyman like say Finlayson in f/a and if possible target a 24 25 yr old from the state leagues if possible.
If we had done this sort of thing when we should have three or 4 seasons ago then we would be in the position to give JR A GENTLE PUSH.But we havent and are in no position to push him anywhere.
He is smart and has much to offer even if only as a mentor.
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Yeah, reality is there is absolutely nothing coming through. But when it comes to us and key forwards, there's been nothing coming through since Jack was making his way.
We just seemed to have given up on drafting them with early picks. Need to draft a promising key forward and get another solid option in from another club.
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To get a class key forward or even an average one you usually have to give up a lot. I would suggest he stays ( if he wants to) and mentors the two keys forwards we need to recruit and play a reduced rotating role
We have no reliable key forward apart from Jack at 33 and with Tom Lynch struggling with injury we wheedle Jacks leadership
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Jack goes on another year IMHO. His form this year has been good enough to earn going around another year and there's others ahead of him in the retirement stakes such as Edwards and Lambert. It's not as though he's been struggling to get enough of the ball to have shots. 32 goals from 15 games is just over 2 goals per games. He's been playing his role as mostly 2nd banana to Lynch. The problem on the weekend was he let the team down by poorly missing 6 of 8 shots. Should have won it off his own boot by kicking 6.2 not 2.6.
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So every one wants to retire him off. Can anyone tell me who are they expecting to get to take over. You know what i hear buddy wants out of Sydney lol.
Once we have someone anyone who can hold down a kpf post then yes id suggest we retire him but you know what no one is talking depth getting one kpf from where ever will not fix our problem. what happens when Lynchy or the new guy or even both get hurt.
Fmd we could get the best key forward in the draft but most likely he won't be ready for at least two or three seasons.
The list demands we have around four key forwards in various stages of development we have two and if we pension off one of them then we will need to get three key forwards into the system and hope Lynch can stand up and stay fit.
For me for now Riewoldt stays and we do what should have been done years ago we draft the best possible kpf in the nd x 2 and find if need be a journeyman like say Finlayson in f/a and if possible target a 24 25 yr old from the state leagues if possible.
If we had done this sort of thing when we should have three or 4 seasons ago then we would be in the position to give JR A GENTLE PUSH.But we havent and are in no position to push him anywhere.
He is smart and has much to offer even if only as a mentor.
100%. Laughable those who want to send him off. Edwards I get as he has fallen off a big cliff, but jack has earnt another year.
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Agree. The kicking for goal was really annoying and cost us the game but if he kicks 6 goals 2 instead of 2 goals 6, he wins the game, we get the chocolates and he gets the girl aka coaches votes
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Probably a lot worse without Lynch around but I am finding Jack uncompetitive pretty much.
Could have managed 4-6 goals despite not being great in a wrestle, in the air etc but a measly 2.6 pffft.
Don't mind if he goes another year but fmd we need to find someone else this off season in a big way and no not effing dan mccrap from brispussy
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Something has changed, because he roved the pack at one stage and instead of looking for an option inside 50 (by hand or foot) he instantly and instinctively threw it onto his left foot for a banana goal (not even a drop punt on his preferred right) and it looked just awful. It looked selfish.
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Hoping the “rumour” on air this morning about a tig8r hanging his boots up is just fluff.
Someone who called into the morning radio, so take it or leave it until it is confirmed or denied.
https://twitter.com/tiger_hype/status/1552070894373048322
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2 years in a row we've missed finals now. No point in playing the 30+ players now. We need to rebuild through the draft and development of our kids even if some of them aren't up to it.
Cotch, Jack and Shedda should all retire.
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2 years in a row we've missed finals now. No point in playing the 30+ players now. We need to rebuild through the draft and development of our kids even if some of them aren't up to it.
Cotch, Jack and Shedda should all retire.
Talk about develop, no better people to develop our youth than those mentioned. A further year each for mine.
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2 years in a row we've missed finals now. No point in playing the 30+ players now. We need to rebuild through the draft and development of our kids even if some of them aren't up to it.
Cotch, Jack and Shedda should all retire.
Haven't missed finals yet .. I've got a funny feeling
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2 years in a row we've missed finals now. No point in playing the 30+ players now. We need to rebuild through the draft and development of our kids even if some of them aren't up to it.
Cotch, Jack and Shedda should all retire.
Talk about develop, no better people to develop our youth than those mentioned. A further year each for mine.
edwards going around again..? Love the guy but no.
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2 years in a row we've missed finals now. No point in playing the 30+ players now. We need to rebuild through the draft and development of our kids even if some of them aren't up to it.
Cotch, Jack and Shedda should all retire.
Talk about develop, no better people to develop our youth than those mentioned. A further year each for mine.
Yep. Maybe not Shedda but yes to the other two. Look at what Luke Hodge did for the Lions
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Jack's two goals last night takes him to 750 career goals and puts him 14th on the all-time AFL goalkickers list.
10. Peter McKenna 874
11. Bernie Quinlan 817
12. Matthew Richardson 800
13. Kevin Bartlett 778
14. Jack Riewoldt 750*
15. Saverio Rocca 748
16. Barry Hall 746
17. Stephen Kernahan 738
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/careergoals.html
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View of Jack's banana goal from directly behind him :thumbsup.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/JackRiewoldtBananaR202022.gif)
With crowd sound here: https://twitter.com/havard_now007/status/1553905898975768576
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That is a thing of beauty!
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Robbo on AFL360 asked Jack about his future:
* Jack said he doesn't know. Up to him to what he wants to do. He knows at his stage of his career he is a low priority. The Club will work out how much money they have to offer and will then come to him.
* Jack said he is realistic about where and how he is playing. Thinks he is still serviceable and unlike Josh Kennedy his body is still feeling okay.
* Jack is happy to continue if the Club needs him as he knows we lack key forward depth. He's been pushing for the Club to chase and draft a key forward.
* If the Club needs him he will play on. If not and the Club wants to play someone else then that's okay. He's got other things in life he wants to do.
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"I'm still pretty serviceable with how I'm playing."
Riewoldt is confident he can keep playing at a high level!
WATCH: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1554409584864858113
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I remember going to games back in ‘78 ‘79 ‘80 we used to go early to see famous players end their careers in the early game. Got to see Neil Balme play at full forward.
I also saw what ended up being Gary Ablett snr final game which was the reserves game at the G in round 1 1997. I’m pretty sure it was Gary v Scotty Turner. He was still kicking them from anywhere.
No shame in ending a career in the reserves. Gives the youngsters some direction and on field coaching and leadership.
I can see Edwards and Reiwoldt being of great benefit in the vfl in the future.
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All very reasonable and mature points from Jack.
I'm happy for him to play on and spend some time in the VFL. Man if he played some VFL matches I'd probably go watch that instead.
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Wiggins and Tassie AFL star share beautiful moment
The mateship between Tasmanians Jack Riewoldt and Ryan Wiggins was again on display following the Tigers win over Essendon on Saturday night.
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/d80bf85b1e6ddb08016502708f58941e?width=320)
https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/wiggins-and-tassie-afl-star-jack-riewoldt-share-beautiful-moment/news-story/7187c5f6b7372173f9b464869eec2244
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Jack on AFL360 last night:
"What's the point in wasting energy on that sort of stuff?"
Jack Riewoldt has no time for the verbal back and forth on the field. ;D
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1564560520434266114
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A mixed night for Jack but those two clutch goals from the boundary in the last were amazing. He would've been lauded for getting us over the line if we had won.
Now we wait to see if he goes on.
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Hard call, and despite his clutch goals tonight, IMO Jack should hang them up. He was playing on a spud for one, and he is slower than treacle. I don't want to see him running around in the magoos next year. The fact that we don't have obvious replacements isn't a good enough reason to play on.
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Hard call, and despite his clutch goals tonight, IMO Jack should hang them up. He was playing on a spud for one, and he is slower than treacle. I don't want to see him running around in the magoos next year. The fact that we don't have obvious replacements isn't a good enough reason to play on.
Probably the right call tbh.
I'd try Miller or Gibcus forward, see how Bauer comes on, draft another tall forward etc.
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Hard call, and despite his clutch goals tonight, IMO Jack should hang them up. He was playing on a spud for one, and he is slower than treacle. I don't want to see him running around in the magoos next year. The fact that we don't have obvious replacements isn't a good enough reason to play on.
Why not? Some greats ended their careers in the reserves.
Gary Ablett snr, Scotty Turner and Neil Balme come to mind.
Not the end if the world if it assists the development of our youngsters
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Why not? Some greats ended their careers in the reserves.
Gary Ablett snr, Scotty Turner and Neil Balme come to mind.
Not the end if the world if it assists the development of our youngsters
He can help them by not playing and letting others take his spot. He can also stay on as a development coach too.
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He’s not going to continue playing in the 2’s. Let’s avoid talking fantasy land stuff.
He wasn’t great last night but he’s role in the last month was as a decoy for Tom Lynch.
People don’t seem to understand that the match up’s determine who we play through….
He’s kicked 40 goals this year. It’s pretty much 2 per game. Coleman medallist averages about 3.
He’s off the ball running and leading is incredible. His on field leadership remains elite.
His preparedness to sacrifice his own game for his teammates is amazing.
I’m not sure how that profiles him to retire or play reserves.
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Tend to agree. Definitely has days where he looks old and slow but for the most part he's a solid contributor playing an important role that helps everyone in our forward 50.
Plays on for one more year IMO
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He’s not going to continue playing in the 2’s. Let’s avoid talking fantasy land stuff.
He wasn’t great last night but he’s role in the last month was as a decoy for Tom Lynch.
People don’t seem to understand that the match up’s determine who we play through….
He’s kicked 40 goals this year. It’s pretty much 2 per game. Coleman medallist averages about 3.
He’s off the ball running and leading is incredible. His on field leadership remains elite.
His preparedness to sacrifice his own game for his teammates is amazing.
I’m not sure how that profiles him to retire or play reserves.
All good arguments. But we do need to move on at some stage. Just my gut feel, but I reckon another year will be one too many.
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If he's not to be around in 2023 we will need to hit the trade table to get in a good replacement. Because lord knows we can't develop key forwards worth a poo. Jack is the only one who has been successful and he was drafted nearly 16 years ago
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He’s not going to continue playing in the 2’s. Let’s avoid talking fantasy land stuff.
He wasn’t great last night but he’s role in the last month was as a decoy for Tom Lynch.
People don’t seem to understand that the match up’s determine who we play through….
He’s kicked 40 goals this year. It’s pretty much 2 per game. Coleman medallist averages about 3.
He’s off the ball running and leading is incredible. His on field leadership remains elite.
His preparedness to sacrifice his own game for his teammates is amazing.
I’m not sure how that profiles him to retire or play reserves.
Agree. How about we focus on who else can stand up instead of a 33 year old bloke who everyone wants to retire despite the fact he has had a good year
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Agree. How about we focus on who else can stand up instead of a 33 year old bloke who everyone wants to retire despite the fact he has had a good year
Actually, that's my point. Jack playing on next year has become a band aid there's-nobody-else-solution rather than part of our next premiership solution.
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We all would have given our left nut for a once a generation key forward 15 years ago.
Let’s enjoy a champion.
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We all would have given our left nut for a once a generation key forward 15 years ago.
Let’s enjoy a champion.
Spot on.
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Agree. How about we focus on who else can stand up instead of a 33 year old bloke who everyone wants to retire despite the fact he has had a good year
Actually, that's my point. Jack playing on next year has become a band aid there's-nobody-else-solution rather than part of our next premiership solution.
Respectfully, your point is wrong. This bloke has given is all and I ain’t calling for his head. What I am calling for is others to stand up in the ressies. We had Lynch miss games and who stepped up from the vfl? Do you want to play blokes like Brown and push Balta forward? We tried that and it was a Fail.
We have no one. End of story. So blame the recruiting department, and tell them to wake the stuff up. Other clubs picking up forwards in a mid season draft that are descent and playing finals, yet we are no where to be seen.
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No brainer. Plays for mine. At worst he can play 3 out of every 4 games.
Lynch gets an annual injury and if Jack is retire who on earth plays KP forward. Do not say Balta.
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Geez have been saying he stays and he stays until we have someone take over from him and actually offer more.
FFS all clubs need 4 key forwards on their list we have just two and both are getting on in age.
People just seem to have no idea about what is needed for a club to have a good succession plan for its varying players and roles.
All i can say is if Jack Riewoldt is forced to retire this year then we don't just need to replace him but we need to find two other key forwards on top.
Look what is ideal. Well the obvious place to start would be to mirror what we do in the seniors in the bloody seconds. That means two genuine key forwards playing in the magoos with Lynch and Jack in the seniors.
The only questions from there are is asking what stages of development would be ideal for the seconds players.
Since 2017 we have failed dismally to address this.
For me we should atm have at least one kpf aged around 22 23 getting games when jack and tom are not available. He should now be developed enough to say hey we can let Jack retire this 23yo is ready to take over. We should also have a very good junior in the system. I would also suggest a good ruck/fwd should be in the system as well.The truth of the matter is we have none apart from two aging stars.
This problem is nothing new its easy to trace it all the way back to 2017 when all we had was Jack and had to play blokes like Townsend and Caddy fwd to give a contest in the air.
What have we done to correct this. Honest answer very little and hedged our bets when we have.We have Tom Lynch we got him in free agency thank god he chose us to play for.Tom cost nothing as far as investment goes in picks etc.what else have we actually invested in trying to find another two or three tall fwds should be the question. If you don't invest you just won't find a player to fix the problem.
We just have not got everything right since 2017 and woe to anyone who says this.
Im going to cut em just a little bit here because no one could have forcast Alex Rance retiring and when he did it forced us to play Balta as a defender.
By the way for me the last few seasons Noah would have to be one of our most over rated players weather that is in defense or attack.
We all love what he could potentially produce every week but imo for too long now he has not delivered.
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Veteran Richmond star key forward Jack Riewoldt’s equal game-high, three-goal performance against Brisbane in last night’s elimination final at the Gabba gave him an overall season tally of 40 goals.
It was the 11th time throughout his decorated AFL career that the triple premiership Tiger hero has kicked 40 goals or more in a season and he now has a total of 755 from the 326 games he’s played.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick, however, valued Riewoldt’s 2022 season beyond the goals he managed to score.
“He’s played a really selfless role,” Hardwick said in his post-match press conference following the Tigers’ two-point loss to the Lions.
“Obviously, he’s been an incredible player for our footy club . . . The way he’s gone about his year, I think it’s been one of his better years by the way he’s led through giving others opportunities.
“He could still be a dominant force, but he’s realised he has to step back so others can step up. And that’s been the mark of him, I think, this year.
“It’s a real credit to him . . .
“We’re really proud of the way he went about it.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1213088/dimma-acclaims-unselfish-riewoldt
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8. Jack Riewoldt
Clutch! Had Jack Payne for company early. Quiet start to the game but kicked a much-needed goal late in the second term against the grain to lift his side. Then stepped up when it mattered most in the fourth term, pulling off a miraculous set-shot goal then adding another. Also applied great defensive pressure. Might’ve sealed a new one-year deal with that performance.
Foxsports rating: 6
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-finals-2022-richmond-tigers-vs-brisbane-lions-second-elimination-final-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/7fc45960b9d79ca09461c1ff3de0ff76
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Word is he's been offered a year for about $300,000.
Apparently a 'low ball' offer, take it or leave it.
Personally I don't think he and Cotchin should be on much more than that anyway. They've had big pay days in the past.
I hope jack takes it.
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Be interested to know what others their age is on. What would Pendle be on?
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The Tackle: Tigers lowball Jack, final word on Dusty talk
Jack Riewoldt has a call to make on a 17th season after a lowball contract offer from Richmond. And rivals have an easy decision to make on Dustin Martin.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-the-first-week-of-finals/news-story/b90f0cb5e436c348ca6034f4f82c225b
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Lowball? Jack will support the Club and play on next year on a smaller wage- no issues at all.
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Jack's taken millions of dollars out of the club over the last 13 seasons. If he is lucky enough to get another contract offer he should take whatever it is and shut the hell up. Lowball!!! FMD
Slobbo has clearly been worded up by Jack and hence the comment.
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Jack's taken millions of dollars out of the club over the last 13 seasons. If he is lucky enough to get another contract offer he should take whatever it is and shut the hell up. Lowball!!! FMD
Slobbo has clearly been worded up by Jack and hence the comment.
Bit of a stretch.
I trust in Jack until evidence to the contrary. I don't trust in Robbo until he sobers up (= never).
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The Herald Sun reported Riewoldt was likely to accept a “lowball offer” that would see him paid around $300,000 to play on in 2023.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2022-darcy-tucker-north-melbourne-jack-riewoldt-richmond-contract-offer-esava-ratugolea-gws-giants/news-story/65b40204092c7baa301dff6394f754db
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“Jack Riewoldt has an offer in place that will be on less money. The reason is because Tim Taranto will go to Richmond on up to a seven-year deal.
“Riewoldt hasn’t agreed yet. [He] is expected to but faces a significant pay cut, $300,000 a year is the figure that Mark Robinson’s referred to in the Herald Sun today.” - Tom Browne.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-make-call-on-trent-cotchins-future-with-jacob-hopper-curveball-still-a-chance-to-trump-geelong-c-8126127
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Dunno about anyone else but calling 300k lowball is pretty offensive.
300k is incredible money, I'd even guess to say it's not far off average wage for an AFL player whe. You take into account all the rookie contracts.
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Jack's taken millions of dollars out of the club over the last 13 seasons. If he is lucky enough to get another contract offer he should take whatever it is and shut the hell up. Lowball!!! FMD
Slobbo has clearly been worded up by Jack and hence the comment.
What a bad take. Jack has more than earned his salary with his contributions to the club on and off the field. He has also turned down more lucrative offers throughout his career to stay at Richmond - freo and Essendon in the early to mid 2010’s come to mind. There was also the renegotiation of his contract in 2018 (rance and Cotchin also) to allow the club to fit in lynch.
Yes he’s been paid well over the years but to suggest he’s some money hungry man who’d be lucky to get another contract and should just take whatever’s handed to him is so far wide of the mark it’s not funny.
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Maybe someone has an official source somewhere but I swear i read somewhere Selwood opted to take ~150-200K so the team can keep firing
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$300k is 5 times more than the average worker
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Jack Riewoldt interview coming up on 7news after the break.
'Jack says he's willing to make the sacrifice at Richmond' - Tim Watson.
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Tim Watson - 'Jack happy to take a huge pay cut to stay at Richmond.'
7news saying it's a 50% pay cut ($300k).
Jack Riewoldt - 'I'm playing for the love of it. I'm not playing for they money. I want to play in a premiership.'
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Tim Watson - 'Jack happy to take a huge pay cut to stay at Richmond.'
7news saying it's a 50% pay cut ($300k).
Jack Riewoldt - "I'm playing for the love of it. I'm not playing for they money. I want to play in a premiership."
Love it
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Richmond has confirmed veteran midfielder Trent Cotchin will play on next year. And he'll be joined by Jack Riewoldt, who says he's happy to take a huge pay cut to stay at Punt Road.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1567073118031839235
Jack Riewoldt - "I feel I've got another year to give. I'm not going to be asking for a two year contract, I can tell you that (laughs). More than likely I'll be playing. I don't know."
JR - "But that's just the reality of footy, you're getting old."
JR - "I'm not playing for money. I'm playing for the love. I'm playing to hopefully win another premiership."
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More on 9news:
Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt is adamant money won't be a sticking point as he vows to play on next season.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1567073465894686720
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Before his exit meeting:
Braden Ingram - "Are financials possibly the sticking point between staying here and not?"
Jack Riewoldt - "I've made a lot of money playing football over sixteen years now. I feel very lucky and very fortunate to be in this position. That won't be any part in my decision really."
Braden Ingram - "Would you like to be here next year?"
Jack Riewoldt - "I love playing footy. I love playing footy for the Tiges. Wait and see."
After his exit meeting:
Braden Ingram - Emerging a couple of hours later the 33 year old's confidence had grown.
Jack Riewoldt - "Dimma asked me, 'how I was playing?'. I said pretty similar to the last 5 years. I think more than likely I'll be playing. I don't know. It's been really funny actually. It's been a bit weird."
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He confirmed on 360 that he’s agreed a deal for next season :thumbsup
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He confirmed on 360 that he’s agreed a deal for next season :thumbsup
Cheers for that, TK :thumbsup
Jack Riewoldt agrees to terms on a new deal with Richmond!! (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f60d.png)
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1567084880605097985
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On the RFC website now.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2022/09/06/efafb515-094b-4a56-a258-00e71ee37867/DIG020_AFL-Re-Sign-graphics_Jack-Riewoldt_Article.png?width=952&height=592)
Three-time Richmond premiership forward Jack Riewoldt will return to the Club in 2023, putting pen to paper on a fresh contract this week.
Riewoldt booted 40 goals from 21 games this year, the 11th occasion in his 16-year career he has booted 40 or more goals in a season.
The 33-year-old was one of Richmond’s best players in the Elimination Final defeat to Brisbane, kicking three goals, including two in the final term.
Riewoldt’s forward partnership with Tom Lynch remains a weapon for the Tigers, with the pair combining for 103 goals- the third most among forward duos in the competition.
The 326-game veteran also ranked #2 at the Club for contested marks, #2 for marks inside 50, #6 for score involvements, and #8 for goal assists.
The star player said he felt like he still had "plenty to play for".
"I'm really excited to be playing again for the Tigers in 2023," he said.
"One thing I'm proud of is the fact there was no quick decisions, it was made together, and that's the thing that holds me in good stead going into next year, that the Club still sees me as a serviceable player.
"I'm playing my role and I'm excited to play, and I'm also really excited about what the future of the football club looks and then imminent future, which I'll be involved in, we feel will be a successful one.
"(Football) gives great structure in my life... I firmly believe that the Club is in a really good position... I feel like next year could be a really fruitful year for us and I really want to be a part of that.
"And ultimately, I love playing footy, that's pretty much the crux of it. I feel like I can still play at the top level and there's nothing like going out and kicking the ball in front of the Tiger faithful at the MCG."
Riewoldt said he was proud to be a one-club player.
"That's really important to me," he said.
"I'll be glad to be finishing up as a Tiger and I'll forever hold that as a badge of honour."
Riewoldt sits second on Richmond’s all time games record holder list and is one of just five Tigers to have achieved the 300-game feat.
The contract extension puts Riewoldt (755 goals) within reach of Kevin Bartlett (778) and Matthew Richardson (800) in second and third on the Club’s all-time goal kicking ranks.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1216081/riewoldt-commits-for-2023
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I'm happy with this - if he wasn't agreeable to the pay cut I'd consider letting him go and a kid to take his spot, but as always he is the team man through and through, so I'm happy for him.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we made a couple of finals and he got to 350/800? Doubt he'll get there but I expect him to end up on 340+ games and go past KB yet not Richo for goals. High company indeed.
Well done & thanks Jack.
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I'm happy with this - if he wasn't agreeable to the pay cut I'd consider letting him go and a kid to take his spot, but as always he is the team man through and through, so I'm happy for him.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we made a couple of finals and he got to 350/800? Doubt he'll get there but I expect him to end up on 340+ games and go past KB yet not Richo for goals. High company indeed.
Well done & thanks Jack.
and a 4th Premiership!
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Jack's full interview on AFL360 tonight:
"I'm playing my role and I'm excited to play, and I'm also really excited about what the future of the football club looks like."
Watch here: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1567102517393367041
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Kicking on! Veteran Tiger eyes FOURTH premiership as he inks new deal
Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
September 6th, 2022 8:05 pm
Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt will play on for a remarkable 17th AFL season, after putting pen to paper on a new deal on Tuesday.
The three-time premiership Tiger says he’s “excited” to go around again, after taking a pay cut to stay at the club.
“I’m going around again next year which is really exciting,” he revealed on AFL360.
“I feel really embarrassed how much this has blown up a bit. I’m just an old codger who’s got to the end of my career that’s just going to roll around again.
“I’m really proud there was no quick decisions – it was made together. The club still sees me as a serviceable player and I still think I’ve got plenty to play for.
“I’m playing my role and I’m excited to play and excited about the future of where the football club looks.”
Riewoldt joked he was left with two minute noodles for dinner after signing his new deal.
“The financial side of it, was the thing for ticking off - it wasn’t an argument about money, it was what’s left in the pie to keep the club stable, and pay for me next year which is probably the most insignificant thing,” he said.
“I’ve been very lucky to have been paid extremely well for a long period of time now.
“I’m not playing for any sort of financial gain really – I’m playing for another premiership.”
Riewoldt, a three-time All Australian and three-time Coleman Medallist, has been one of the Tigers’ most durable players since 2009.
Excluding his tough 2019 campaign where he was restricted to just 13 games due to a PCL knee injury, Riewoldt has managed 287 AFL games of Richmond’s possible 295 in one of the most remarkable runs.
Riewoldt only sits behind Swan Lance Franklin for current players in the AFL’s top goal kickers list, with 755 to his name.
He is just 23 goals behind Tigers great Kevin Bartlett and 45 behind Matthew Richardson – and could become Richmond’s second best forward of all time by playing on in 2023.
But Riewoldt admitted he’s focused on developing Richmond’s youngsters next year.
“I’ve known what it’s like to be a sole key forward in a football club, and I feel like I add value to (teammate Tom) Lynch’s game. And I’m really excited about what my role is - I may not play every game. I’ve got to help evolve the group into the next period of time,” he said.
Riewoldt already sits second in Richmond’s all-time games played list.
He is just one of five players still active in the AFL from the 2006 draft - alongside Travis Boak, Joel Selwood, Todd Goldstein and Tom Hawkins.
Riewoldt’s decision comes just hours after fellow Tigers veteran Trent Cotchin announced he too would play on in 2023.
The former skipper was one of Richmond’s best this season, averaging more than 22 disposals a game and finished second at the Tigers for contested ball.
“The plan probably was not initially to go again, but I think that changed for a number of reasons; one my body and also that you are a long time retired, I had that nagging away in the back of my head,” he explained.
“Something that really came to fruition this year as well was the joy it brought my kids. Having that additional purpose of not just trying my best for me and for our team, but also playing and really enjoying the journey of AFL footy and the Richmond Tigers (with them).
“As you get closer to the end of your career, you don’t know when it is going to come but I feel as though I contributed from a football point of view relatively well for the majority of the season.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/kicking-on-veteran-tiger-eyes-fourth-premiership-as-he-inks-new-deal/news-story/02254d5c8e9113219fd9fa3b85f1e631
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Good. As stated ad nauseum there is noone else to take his spot which is a real shame and a blight on our succession planning imo.
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It’s the opposite for me.
By keeping Cotchin and Jack, both of whom retire at the end of next year, we placehold $600k in salary for 2024 which can go toward a key forward at the end of next year.
Which leaves us with one, potentially two contested ball beasts to inject our midfield with our number 1 issue while leaving us with 2 all time greats to load up for flag number 4.
On another note, I find it laughable that Tom Hawkins is revered by the media and Jack is being urged to the slaughterhouse.
In fact, Geelongs key forwards age profile is being lauded despite it being very similar to ours. The model is sound, it just lacks the supply the Cats have been able to generate.
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It’s the opposite for me.
By keeping Cotchin and Jack, both of whom retire at the end of next year, we placehold $600k in salary for 2024 which can go toward a key forward at the end of next year.
Which leaves us with one, potentially two contested ball beasts to inject our midfield with our number 1 issue while leaving us with 2 all time greats to load up for flag number 4.
On another note, I find it laughable that Tom Hawkins is revered by the media and Jack is being urged to the slaughterhouse.
In fact, Geelongs key forwards age profile is being lauded despite it being very similar to ours. The model is sound, it just lacks the supply the Cats have been able to generate.
Great points mate
Always amazes me how much sucking up Hawkins gets while Jack is ridiculed as a junk timer and whinger
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THE MAIN FACTORS THAT CONVINCED RIEWOLDT TO PLAY ON AT RICHMOND
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
9 September 2022
Jack Riewoldt has revealed the major factors behind his decision to sign on with Richmond.
The 33-year-old will suit up for a 17th season with the Tigers after putting pen to paper on a one-year deal earlier this week.
Riewoldt is excited to continue his journey at Tigerland and has been enlivened by the news that GWS midfielders Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper have both nominated Richmond as their club of choice.
“I’m looking forward to rolling around again for the mighty yellow and black,” Riewoldt said on SEN Tassie.
“I got there just when I turned 18 and now I’ll be 34 at the end of this year. It’s been a long part of my journey, one that I’ve enjoyed thoroughly and one that I didn’t want to end this year at least.
“It’s very exciting and obviously the news recently with Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper selecting that they would like to come to the Tigers as well, as an older player it really fills your cup up knowing that you’re hopefully going to be a genuine contender again next year.”
The three-time premiership player, Coleman Medallist and All-Australian admits he had serious thoughts about finishing up this year, even discussing his potential retirement with veteran Aussie cyclist Richie Porte.
“Coming into this season I probably was of the mindset that it would be my last year,” he added.
“I remember when I did the Ride4Ryan (in Tasmanian in December) I sat next to Richie Porte when we were peddling along the highway and I said, ‘What are you going to do?’, and he goes, ‘I’m done at the end of the year’. He said, ‘Yourself?’, and I said, ‘Look, I think am too. There’s just a whole host of things I want to do going forward outside of football’.
“Richie is actually riding in his last tour at the moment so he’s only a few days away from retirement. I’ve gone back on my word a little bit there as I’m obviously playing on again.”
Riewoldt explained his thinking behind going around again in 2023, the overriding reason being to win a fourth premiership.
The 326-game, 755-goal Richmond great admits the Elimination Final loss to Brisbane left a sour taste in his mouth and he firmly believes the team has the capabilities of contending again.
“There’s a whole host of things that I’ve factored in,” Riewoldt said.
“It probably comes down to three points - One is that I love playing footy, first and foremost, that’s the thing that’s really important to me.
“I also think we’re a genuine chance and I still think I’ve got something to offer. That’s the other thing.
“It’s still hurting a little bit the fact that this season didn’t finish like we would have liked it to. I firmly believe that we had a good chance of going a little bit deeper than we did originally.
“Now I set my sights on getting back to the club in the best condition and season 2023.”
Riewoldt admits he and long-time teammate Trent Cotchin, who also signed on for 2023, will be on much less money next year but insists the motivation is simply around further success.
“I reckon myself and Trent are a little bit under what the market rate might be for us,” he added.
“I’ve constantly said this over the week when I’ve been asked this question is that I’ve been paid very handsomely for a long time now. I’m not playing to get paid next year, I’m playing to win another premiership.
“That’s the reason I’m going to go around. I want to go out and win another flag.
“This is what happens at good clubs. I think you’d find at Geelong there’d be guys like Tom Hawkins, who is the same age as me and having an All-Australian captain year, who would be being paid completely out of the ballpark what people think he’d be worth.
“That’s just what good clubs do and older players have to do when you get the end of your career. You have to step aside and let the likes of Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli earn what they’re worth.
“It’s certainly an interesting time for our football club. Hopefully we can sign and seal the two players (Taranto and Hopper) that have said they’d like to come to the Tiges.”
After 16 seasons with Richmond, Riewoldt sits second behind only Kevin Bartlett for games played and fourth on the club’s all-time goalkicking list.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/08/the-main-factors-that-convinced-riewoldt-to-play-on-at-richmond/
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‘They think we’re in the window’: Tiger trade blitz helped stars take pay cut, proves they’re in ‘23 mix
Max Laughton
Fox Sports
September 8th, 2022 8:56 pm
Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt was convinced to take a pay cut and stick around after being told of the club’s plan for a bold trade blitz this off-season.
The Tigers will attempt to trade in GWS midfielders Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper, the pair each signing a seven-year contract, costing them at least three first-round picks.
The move for the young pair is an attempt to extend the premiership window of the late-2010s dynasty club, who failed to win a final this season but were fourth for percentage, and didn’t lose a game by more than a goal after Round 6.
Riewoldt believes the Taranto-Hopper plan is “very exciting”, especially because it suggests players at rival clubs believe the Tigers are still premiership threats.
“The fact of the matter is they’re very good players so we’re going to have to give up a fair bit to get them, and it’ll be interesting to see if the deals are done separately or as a conglomerate,” he said on Fox Footy’s AFL 360 Plus.
“It just shows that there’s talent out there in the AFL that believe we’re in a pretty good window, as we believe too.
“The last five games we lost were by under a goal so we feel like we can be a challenger again next year.”
Riewoldt and fellow veteran Trent Cotchin decided to play on, the latter publicly admitting he was considering retirement during the year, taking pay cuts to help the Tigers' salary cap situation.
The former Coleman medallist said he spoke to club higher-ups about their trade plan during his exit meeting early this week, which helped contribute to his decision to stick around on less than he may have been able to get elsewhere.
“In mine, yes. And I think probably a lot of the older guys would be like, you start to look outside yourself a little bit and how we’re gonna get better,” Riewoldt said.
“A lot of younger players come in and just want to get feedback about themselves and establishing themselves. It’s discussed, the coaches ask where you think as a player the club can get better.
“Funnily enough Josh Kelly’s parents live three or four doors down from my house, drove past Josh the other day and asked if he wanted to come as well.
“For us, we’re excited that players out there have nominated our club as one they see as being a good fit for him.
“I’ve factored that into my thinking about whether I want to go forward or not. You probably don’t get paid what you think you might be worth, but you’re back in the mix. As a player, as an older player, you’re playing to win premierships.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-trades-2022-richmond-trade-plan-pay-cut-for-veterans-jack-riewoldt-trent-cotchin-tim-taranto-jacob-hopper-news/news-story/5d4fd866db61f51ce5fe528c25b6e16a
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The 326-game veteran, Jack Riewoldt, will be a 34-year-old heading into his 17th AFL season in 2023, but the Tigerland’s talented department of youth is re-energising him.
“I really feel like the group’s in a really good position to take that next step forward.”
“I’m really excited about what the next period of time brings with some of the young kids coming through . . .
“I hope that I can impart a little bit of wisdom on to them . . .
“We’ve started seeing players like Kane Lambert, Dave Astbury, Shane Edwards, leave the football club, so now it’s becoming a sort of new generation, that generation next, which is really exciting.
“I’m still really invested into looking after and educating the younger players.
“That’s the thing I really enjoy.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1221845/riewoldt-raring-to-go-in-season-2023
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Sprintcars, the Cup, a premiership: Jack eyes unique triple crown
Jack Riewoldt has an exciting 12 months ahead as he adds sprintcars to his portfolio that includes the 2023 Melbourne Cup Favourite and a possible fourth flag.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/jon-ralph/jack-riewoldt-is-not-retiring-any-time-soon-and-plans-to-have-a-lot-of-fun-along-the-way/news-story/6430f7a79467984aff3de39de4ffcda6
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AFL winner Jack Riewoldt and Supercars champ Scott McLaughlin take on team ownership
Simon Chapman
Nine WWOS
11 November 2022
AFL premiership winner Jack Riewoldt and Supercars champion Scott McLaughlin have revealed their latest cross-code endeavour.
The pair have joined forces with media personalities Tim Hodges and Gerard Whateley to form a sprint car team that will take on the 50th Grand Annual Sprintcar Classic in Warrnambool.
Hodges, a Warrnambool native, hatched the idea that will see Australian sprint car ace James McFadden take the wheel.
Before McLaughlin moved to the United States to compete in the IndyCar Series, he had a podcast with Riewoldt and Hodges called Balls and Bumpers.
Now, the trio are dipping their toes into team ownership with Whateley.
"Me and Jack haven't really done anything like this before, but we threw our support behind Timmy," said McLaughlin.
"He's definitely the forefront of it all, but then we've got Gerard Whateley a part of it as well.
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"It's exciting. It's cool to be a part of it. Unfortunately I won't be able to make the race, but it's certainly something that I'm excited for.
"With James McFadden, he's probably one of Australia's best sprint car drivers at least and he's winning over in America.
"He's just a wheelman and having him part of the team is awesome."
For the time being, ownership may be as far as McLaughlin gets in the sprint car world.
Although keen to get behind the wheel of a V8-powered dirt oval racer, the Kiwi admitted it's a scary thought if it goes wrong.
"I don't know if I'd like to race one, I'm not sure," he said.
"I'd love to drive one. I've never driven anything on the dirt before. I think that would be very cool.
"I've definitely had offers to race something, but I haven't gone through with it. It's something that's definitely intriguing for me, but at the same time, to race one is pretty hardcore.
"When they have a shunt, she's a big one. Probably focused on the IndyCar program right now and not putting myself at risk.'
McLaughlin has returned Down Under to attend the Adelaide 500 where he will be the event's 'Fanbassador' and provide expert commentary on the broadcast.
The three-time champion said he's eager to provide an unfiltered point of view at the Supercars season finale.
"I'm excited to provide comments throughout the weekend and give fans and everyone alike a chance to give a look into maybe something a little bit more current.
"I've just come out of the seat, in some ways, and I fell like I can add to the broadcast and add to the viewership [experience] in a good way.
"Very excited. I really enjoyed watching Gold Coast again and seeing the cars up close again.
"Then, to go to Adelaide – where the race was up in the air for a long while there, and now for it to come back and be its first race back – I'm sure there's going to be a ton of people there and I'm really excited to be a part of it all."
The Adelaide 500 takes place on December 1-4.
McLaughlin will spend Christmas and New Year Down Under before heading back for the 2023 IndyCar season, which begins on the streets of St Petersburg on March 5.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/news-2022-afl-jack-riewoldt-supercars-scott-mclaughlin-take-up-sprint-car-team-ownership/2492d908-2cc8-497b-8f98-f118ae40b106
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Sprintcars, the Cup, a premiership: Jack eyes unique triple crown
Jack Riewoldt has an exciting 12 months ahead as he adds sprintcars to his portfolio that includes the 2023 Melbourne Cup Favourite and a possible fourth flag.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/jon-ralph/jack-riewoldt-is-not-retiring-any-time-soon-and-plans-to-have-a-lot-of-fun-along-the-way/news-story/6430f7a79467984aff3de39de4ffcda6
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Jack Riewoldt is not retiring any time soon and plans to have a lot of fun along the way
Jack Riewoldt has an exciting 12 months ahead as he adds sprintcars to his portfolio that includes the 2023 Melbourne Cup Favourite and a possible fourth flag.
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
11 November 2022
The power of saying yes has put Jack Riewoldt in some weird and wonderful places.
On stage rocking it out with The Killers after Richmond’s 2017 premiership triumph.
On track for football’s Hall of Fame.
And on a pedestal as one of football’s greatest star forwards combining a diverse multimedia career, a leadership business and advocacy for a Tasmanian football team.
In 2023 it could reward him with the 34-year-old’s own version of the Triple Crown.
His decision to play on for Richmond opens the door for a remarkable fourth premiership and his small ownership stake in 2023 Melbourne Cup favourite Soulcombe sets up 12 months of feverish anticipation.
November’s schedule includes trips to Mount Buffalo and Uluru as part of his leadership business Authentic Leaders Group and last week’s Flemington Group 3 victory that set up Soulcombe’s Melbourne Cup bid.
This week he still found time to confirm the third and quirkiest leg of that possible trio of sporting victories when he became a part-owner in Hodges Motorsport’s bid for the Grand Annual Sprintcar Classic at Warrnambool’s Premier Speedway.
The self-confessed motorsport nuffy has joined up with his podcast partners — IndyCar star Scott McLaughlin and Fox Footy’s AFL360 producer Tim Hodges — as well as AFL360 host Gerard Whateley.
A passion project for Hodges given his Warrnambool roots, the sprint car event is a high-risk investment for the 50th anniversary of the race that guarantees little financial reward but a heck of a lot of fun.
For Riewoldt it is all part of embracing the extraordinary opportunities that life can present if you are prepared to answer in the affirmative.
“It is just what you make of it. You could easily say no to a lot of things but I try to say yes to as many things as possible and sometimes they turn into really fun things like the horse and the motorsport team,” he said.
“Hodgey had a lifelong dream to own a race team and myself and Scott and Hodgey did a podcast and made some sponsorship money off supporters of the podcast and we had it sitting there. And Hodgey says, “I want to run a sprint car team”.
“It’s so left of centre that it’s really, really appealing. More than likely we won’t get our money back but it will be so much fun. It’s a big year as the 50th anniversary and James McFadden is driving for us. He’s a two-time champion and he’s one of the best drivers down there so we are really looking forward to it.
“Sprint cars are on dirt and are the cars with huge wings on top of the roof. The power is unbelievable and things can come a cropper pretty easily so it’s not a sport you would normally invest money in but we are doing this more as a passion project than anything else.”
Riewoldt will take his daughters Poppy and Hazel down to the ‘Bool to witness the spectacle, with Poppy turning four in March when round 1 of the AFL season rolls around next year.
She is just old enough to understand what dad does for a living, which was one of the many reasons he played on next year.
“A quote I have heard a lot recently is you are a long time retired. So enjoy it while it’s here. My eldest is starting to show a lot of interest in footy, she loves it,” he said.
“I have no idea to be honest (if it’s my last year). Probably more than likely but you just don’t know. When I started this year I was thinking it would be my last year but I surprised myself a bit. I have got a young family and so many other things to do but I am putting my sole focus into being the best footballer I can be so it gives me a chance to play my best football and the club can go as far as it hopes to go.”
He is thrilled Jacob Hopper chose Richmond over Geelong and Tim Taranto jumped on board, believing they are both “bona fide stars of the competition. We have been very lucky to add to that group”.
For Riewoldt, Hopper’s decision franks the club’s own belief it is still a “powerhouse” like Geelong and Melbourne firmly in the premiership race.
But he says the emergence of first-year draftees Josh Gibcus, Noah Cumberland and Tyler Sonsie — with Sam Banks and Tom Brown to debut next year — gives the club a perfect balance of old and new.
Riewoldt has heard the noise about Richmond’s decision to host its final this weekend at the 2000-capacity Punt Road and believes there is a silver lining in the debate.
“We are so excited for the AFLW team who are going fantastically well. I have been to watch games and watched a few on TV when they have played away. It’s a whole generation that have been inspired, not just Richmond. The whole competition is inspiring people.
“Did we ever think we would be having this conversation about where an AFLW final would be played. People are crying out for tickets. For a nation that loves sport we are getting constant access to world-class sport. That’s the most exciting thing. The standard I have watched our girls go to is next level. The girls coming in to play AFLW now are scary good.
“And in ten more years it will look nothing like it does now as it evolves again.”
He will head to Uluru next week for another course with Authentic Leaders Group with a syllabus based around many of the lessons from Richmond, helping workgroups reconnect after the dislocation of Covid.
“We take people into regional spaces and use it as a classroom to do a whole bunch of stuff. A bit of theory, a bit of fun, a bit of play and push people into growth areas we think can improve facets of workplaces,” Riewoldt said.
Then next month he will be back into the slog of a Punt Road pre-season, having filled his life with so many challenges he cannot get to but aware of the magnetic lure of the fourth premiership.
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Jack Riewoldt, Gerard Whateley in left-field motor sport deal
Just saying yes has given Jack Riewoldt some amazing experiences. And co-owning a motor sport venture with Fox Footy colleagues and a V8 superstar could be the craziest adventure yet.
https://ww.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/jon-ralph/jack-riewoldt-is-not-retiring-any-time-soon-and-plans-to-have-a-lot-of-fun-along-the-way/news-story/6430f7a79467984aff3de39de4ffcda6
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Mark Stevens on RSN said he got a txt saying Jack may have a slight soft tissue injury (a "little hammy").
https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/NNNRS6030672057?selected=NNNRS8989259047
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Thank goodness they took Bradtke lol
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Jack might not get another game.
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Jack might not get another game.
keen to retire him are you?
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Jack might not get another game.
Just trying to be jocular.
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I know it was said lightheartedly but its preseason and talk of an injury to jack has people thinking Bradtke can just walk in and play or have a big impact. Bradtke was a list need but 18 or 20 he needs to be developed. Expectations of what he can bring this year really should be lowered.
Personally i remain adamant that one of Miller or Balta plays fwd as a third tall most games.
The poo will hit the fan if we dont do anything and get games into one of them in the role.
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Jack's still in Tassie.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Co6o7Xuy2Lp/
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My 'Spy' says Jack is fine :pray. Seems Mark Stevens "txt" was wrong.
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Jack at training today.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/02/22/49d814fd-b6bb-4aac-9275-2eff2599a6d6/AFLTrainingFeb22-4207-Jack-Riewoldt.jpg?width=580) (https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/02/22/e241b0a8-a760-437f-8cfd-67f50988c838/AFLTrainingFeb22-4544-Jack-Riewoldt.jpg?width=580)
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Looks in good shape to me
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Mark mistake Stevens
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RIEWOLDT REVEALS HOW TIGERS' GRAND TRADE PLANS LED TO RETIREMENT BACKFLIP
By Seb Mottram
SEN
25 February 2023
Jack Riewoldt says the key factor behind him staying at Richmond for a 17th season was the club’s recruitment of ex-Giants Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The Tigers were one of the stories of the trade period when pulling off trades for both Taranto and Hopper as numerous Giants fled the nest.
Damien Hardwick’s midfield was the big beneficiary, with Richmond turning one of the league’s weaker midfields into one of the most talented in a single trade period.
It singled an intent from the Tigers that they once again believed they were in the premiership window, and Riewoldt is excited for the year ahead.
“It’s pretty handy to go and get two of the most premium midfielders that were available over the trade period and plug them straight into the midfield,” Riewoldt told SEN Tassie Breakfast.
“Also got some young kids who are either going into their second year or a couple of first-year boys we picked up who we think are pretty exciting players. There’s a bit to like at the Tiges at the moment…”
Riewoldt, who booted 40 goals in 2022, turned 34 at the conclusion of last season and was widely tipped to retire. It’s a sentiment that the Richmond forward himself shared, but said the club’s lofty ambitions convinced him to go around one more time.
He and former skipper Trent Cotchin both signed new one-year deals in September.
“At the star of last year I probably thought it was going to be my last year of footy, and to be honest, the thing that has kept me reinvigorated… that’s sort of buoyed out of the fact we went and got the two boys out of GWS and the club had that strong roll of the dice whilst trying to live in the now and win premierships we’ve invested in the draft,” Riewoldt explained.
“Certainly going and getting two really good players in a spot we probably really need to be strong in and create midfield depth has probably been the catalyst for hanging around and seeing if we can win another premiership and get back to the top of the AFL tree.”
As for how Taranto and Hopper will fair at Tigerland, fans got their best glimpse yet with Friday’s match simulation against North Melbourne.
Both got plenty of the ball when spending massive amounts of time in the midfield, while Taranto also pushed into attack and looked dangerous.
Riewoldt, speaking before the practice game, said the new recruits had eased the load on Dion Prestia over the pre-season.
“The two guys we’ve gone and picked up, Jacob is more of that inside bull, extractor type, which takes a bit of pressure off Dion in that aspect,” he added.
“Tim has got a little bit of outside class and the ability to spread and run from contest, which once again has probably been lumped on Dion.
“He’s probably the happiest man at the footy club, Dion Prestia the riches he’s got around him now to help us in the short term and then for him to go into more of a mentor role for the young kids who we believe are going to be good players for us in the midfield in the coming years.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/25/riewoldt-reveals-how-tigers-grand-trade-plans-led-to-retirement-backflip/
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Dion won't be too busy if he is to mentor young mids. We just dont have many.
The areas that still require a lot of work in recruiting are more wing types, There is only Banks and Ralphsmith. Big bodied mids only Ross, and tall fwds or in particular an experienced one to go with a highly touted junior that we can develop.
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Dion won't be too busy if he is to mentor young mids. We just dont have many.
The areas that still require a lot of work in recruiting are more wing types, There is only Banks and Ralphsmith. Big bodied mids only Ross, and tall fwds or in particular an experienced one to go with a highly touted junior that we can develop.
Claw
IIRC, Richo was very successful in a wing position at the end of his career (and nearly won the Brownlow that year), maybe this is a role Bradtke could be considered for with his alleged speed size and agility??
Just thinking outside the square??
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Ch 9 said Jack went for scans today as well but was given the all clear.
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Big congratulations to Jack and Carly on the birth of Tommy Ivan Riewoldt
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1633765865526009859
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Yessssssssss!
Congrats mate
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The messiah…. :bow
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Middle name Ivan… :clapping
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Jack Riewoldt's role at Richmond in 2023
"The fight for spots in back again this year. And that's going to be my year this year. I'm battling for my spot. There's young guys coming through. We saw Samson Ryan come out and play a quarter against the Dees and play really good footy. I've got to play for my spot and there's an element of that that I love and go 'Right, I want to play to play for my spot. I want to be there that first night'." - Jack Riewoldt.
"If I was a Richmond supporter, that is music to my ears that Jack's got that fire in the belly and the competition for spots is on. What he is saying is they couldn't clunk one against Melbourne, albeit a practice match, yet a young kid comes in in Samson Ryan and go bang, bang, bang!" - Garry Lyon.
LISTEN here: https://megaphone.link/NTETP6427888366
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There’s still life left in the old fella yet. Was much better than I thought he would be. Credit to him :clapping
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Good working up the ground. Thought he was quite good.
Delivery stank all night
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Okay game tonight but why does he think we can only play just him and Tom in the team. He should not be in a fight for a spot with Ryan but thinking how do we incorporate this kid into making it three talls.
Carlton made a call not to play Pittonet but even with out him in the ruck and Dekoning fwd they had Curnow Silvagni and MckAY
We played our big hit out practice game against the dees.Work it out for yourselves they had how many tall forwards and ruckmen going thru the forward half.
How many did Brisbane throw against us last year Hmm Daniher, Himmelberg and whats his face who went to Collingwood fmd they were regulars. Ah bugger it you lot arent stupid look for yourselves at how the game has gone.
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Richmond key forward Jack Riewoldt said both sides were “flat as shark s---” in the rooms, describing the mood as a weird feeling.
“Everyone is a bit flat as shark s--- at the moment,” Riewoldt said on Fox Footy post-match.
“We felt we played the game on our terms… but we probably didn’t make the most of our opportunities tonight.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-richmnd-v-carlton-live-score-round-1-teams-tips-odds/news-story/1cb286d46a4d74272aa81f2528b33010
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There’s still life left in the old fella yet. Was much better than I thought he would be. Credit to him :clapping
x 2, died a bit in the second half but I though he was the best forward in the first half and kept on presenting and taking marks
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MARKS INSIDE 50: Round 2 2023
Charlie Curnow - 6
Joel Amartey - 6
Kyle Langford - 6
Jake Waterman - 5
Jeremy Cameron - 5
Jesse Hogan - 5
Tom Papley - 5
Aaron Naughton - 4
Jack Riewoldt - 4
Taylor Walker - 4
MARKS ON LEAD: Round 2 2023
Jake Waterman - 5
Tom Papley - 5
Anthony Caminiti - 4
Bailey Scott - 4
Joel Amartey - 4
Darcy Fogarty - 3
Eric Hipwood - 3
Fergus Greene - 3
Jack Lukosius - 3
Jack Riewoldt - 3
GOAL ASSISTS: Round 2 2023
Cameron Zurhaar - 3
Gryan Miers - 3
Jack Crisp - 3
Jack Riewoldt - 3
Lachlan Murphy - 3
Oliver Florent - 3
Tyson Stengle - 3
Ben Cunnington - 2
Bobby Hill - 2
Brad Crouch - 2
https://twitter.com/CooperCDenny
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Jack's two goals last night means Jack and Nick Riewoldt now have the record for the most goals for a related pair.
Jack 760 goals 329 games
Nick 718 goals 336 games
https://twitter.com/RichmondDynasty/status/1641760674123489282
Most V/@AFL games by a player & coach combination
306 - Gordon Coventry & Jock McHale
283 - JACK RIEWOLDT & DAMIEN HARDWICK
282 - Bill Hutchison & Dick Reynolds
278 - Jarryd Roughead & Alastair Clarkson
276 - Dustin Fletcher & Kevin Sheedy
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1641756043318558723
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Jack's got a decent shiner on his forehead. 8 staples in there too so that will leave a nice scar. Gutsy to come back on and kick 4 goals.
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Jack's got a decent shiner on his forehead. 8 staples in there too so that will leave a nice scar. Gutsy to come back on and kick 4 goals.
Incredible courage
And the hurt as he spoke Ch7 after game tells you alot about the bloke. Just loves the Club
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What a pleasure it has been to cheer this bloke on for so long.
He won't play like that every week, same goes for Cotchin, we cannot forget what these guys have given us and as much as they aren't at their best stuff me they are champion players. A huge shame we didn't get up tonight and we remember this game as one of the great courageous efforts by one of our absolute legends of the club.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtrWIXIagAEb5Od?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/1646864067888574465
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Jack's interview post-game:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1307897/it-s-a-bitter-pill-to-swallow-riewoldt
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Riewoldt lamented his side’s lack of discipline
Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt told Channel Seven post Friday night loss to Sydney, he was disappointed to see a lack of discipline creep into his team’s game.
“The thing that really hurts is probably the lack of discipline by us at the end of the game to give away those 50m penalties. Easy goals,” Riewoldt said.
“[He was] a bit disappointed the way that one finished out. Obviously disappointed... We played good footy before and we thought we were a good chance of winning.
“It was a bitter pill to swallow. You can cop being beaten by opposition as we were tonight, but the lack of discipline is disappointing and it is something you don’t want creeping into your game.”
He added that his head injury earlier in the game, which saw blood pour from his head and need to be bandaged up, gave his wife and family a fright but is ok.
“Obviously it is part of footy and one of those footy incidents,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-round-5-live-updates-richmond-tigers-v-sydney-swans-fremantle-dockers-v-gold-coast-suns-20230414-p5d0jt.html
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Pure guts. An absolute legend. Tried his guts out.
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Hardwick lauded the performance of veteran forward Jack Riewoldt, who recovered from a nasty cut on his head to boot 4.1 in a lone hand effort inside Richmond’s forward 50.
“He looked dangerous inside 50. We didn’t have a lot of great looks tonight, but he’s probably the guy that stood up,” Hardwick said.
“I didn’t see the actual incident (that left Riewoldt bloodied), but I saw him come back on. He’s a warrior, Jack. He’s had multiple breaks and all these sorts of things and he just continues to play. He has a couple of operations every year, but it’s what’s made him one of our game’s greatest players.”
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-damien-hardwick-press-conference-after-richmond-tigers-loss-to-sydney-swans-slams-poor-discipline/news-story/405fd67128ae3a1889c497989bac7648).
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Riewoldt, 34, said he had pulled up well despite needing seven staples in the head after a heavy clash with Sydney’s Hayden McLean, but he joked his daughters might be scarred when they see him after he returns to Victoria.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ftugp8AaQAAT0F-?format=jpg&name=large)
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/we-are-big-boys-riewoldt-cotchin-to-do-what-s-best-for-richmond-20230415-p5d0oc.html).
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Most 4+ goal games outside VIC by people playing for clubs based inside VIC
24 - JACK RIEWOLDT
23 - Jason Dunstall
22 - Lance Franklin
21 - Jarryd Roughead
19 - Tom Hawkins
18 - Matthew Richardson, Matthew Lloyd
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Most goals at Adelaide Oval by interstate players
36 - JACK RIEWOLDT
31 - Jack Gunston
29 - Josh Kennedy WCE
29 - Jeremy Cameron
29 - Tom Hawkins
25 - Jamie Cripps
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing
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He needed to kick 4 just to keep us in it. Thats what happens when you only have ONE GENUINE key fwd in your team.
Likely Bauer would have had a quite night but at least he would have had a taste.
Really hope next week we can stop picking non fwds to play in the fwd half and play two genuine tall fwds with a ruck/fwd. Then at their feet just play the best sml/med forwards we have. And not for one week bloody persevere with them where possible.
FWD half next week
FF/ Miller - Bauer - Bolton
HF/ Clarke - Riewoldt - Cumberland
R/ Ryan - Taranto - Prestia. Prestia really needs to come to the 2023 party god he has been ordinary.
C/ Pickett - Martin - Banks
HB/ McIntosh - Balta - Rioli
FB/ Mansell - Young - Grimes
INT/ Cotchin - Hopper - Baker - Sonsie
Sub ????.
Bolton i have wanted to start on ball but if he is going to play like a cream on top player then play him fwd. The small i have liked is Campbell maybe even give him a go.
Just play em and just let em play to their strengths.
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Jack on AFL360 said he's ok and he is playing this week. To protect the wound though, he'll be going with the old school Rugby League tape around his head.
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What a warrior.
I hate the haters who hate on him. Wish they could see what a stellar bloke and career there is.
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Jack has now kicked 402 at the MCG. Only behind Richo and Lloyd.
11 disposals (8k, 3h, 5c, 7u, 63.6% eff.)
4 marks
1 intercept
2 forward 50 tackles
179 metres gained
7 score involvements
4 goals
2 behinds
94% time on ground
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Was excellent again, I think as a footy public we can be so over critical on players when we look beyond the role players play. When Lynch is in the side we don't kick it to Jack anymore. Now he's number 1 man again he's showing how much he can hurt opponents still. His role when Lynch is playing I'd part decoy part bring ball to ground.
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WATCH: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1653962467494752256
Jack Riewoldt, 34, said he would jump at the chance to be involved with the Tasmanian club.
“That’s the thing Tasmanians will do. They’re littered across the AFL, in many different roles, and AFLW,” he said.
“They’ll be putting their hands up to give back to the state that has given them so much. The formation will be an exciting process.”
https://globeecho.com/news/australia/afl-great-jack-riewoldt-34-hints-at-major-post-footy-career-move/
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1529 goals, six flags, one unforgettable AFL photo: Future Hall of Famers’ touching moment
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
13 May 2023
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv7Zmr9aAAMIGLV?format=jpg&name=900x900)
This was a moment Jack Riewoldt and Tom Hawkins will never forget.
In the twilight of their respective careers, the two modern-day greats on Friday night swapped jumpers in the middle of the MCG.
Riewoldt’s Tigers had just wound back the clock, producing their best and slickest performance of the season so far to beat Hawkins’ Cats by 24 points.
Minutes after the final siren had sounded, Riewoldt and Hawkins looked for each other out on the ground.
The 34-year-olds took off their respective jumpers, signed them with a pen and handed them over to each other before posing for photos.
Hawkins and Riewoldt between them have claimed six premierships, eight All-Australians, four Coleman Medals and three best and fairests between them. They’ve kicked a combined 1529 goals from 670 games.
“Two Hall of Famers right there. They go straight in when they’re eligible,” Tigers legend Matthew Richardson said on Channel 7.
Luke Hodge added: “They’ve just been so durable and consistent players for such a long time.”
Both players are out of contract at season’s end, prompting Melbourne champion Garry Lyon to wonder whether one of them might retire at season’s end.
“The swapping of the jumpers was an interesting one” Lyon told Fox Footy.
“They were here on AFL 360 together during the week, so maybe they hatched that plan during the week
“I was more interested in one of them is going to retire, if that’s the case.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-jack-riewoldt-and-tom-hawkins-jumper-swap-photo-after-richmond-win-over-geelong-retirement-stats/news-story/7d84bdc8c8a6fa237f490471a4845df9
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Very similar stats. Both champions. Great careers.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv7wtaoWIAAVhSr?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Jamal_UmpireWA/status/1657026388463964164
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Yep both excellent players. Jack was definitely better when he was younger but Hawkins has remained at such a high level for longer. Both true champions
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Jumper swap pre-planned, says Jack Riewoldt
Damien Ractliffe
The Age
13 May 2023 2:04pm
Richmond great Jack Riewoldt says his decision to swap jumpers with Geelong’s Tom Hawkins after Friday night’s win was pre-planned, admitting the two goalkicking stars may never play against each other again.
Riewoldt and Hawkins signed their own jumpers before swapping them last night, and Riewoldt said the pair had discussed the swap before recording AFL360 earlier in the week.
Asked whether they chose this game because they may never play against each other again, Riewoldt told 3AW: “That possibly could be the case.”
“Neither of us are spring chickens, both 34, both out of the 2006 draft,” he said.
“I think you just take those moments when they come up. We’ve got a lot of respect for each other, we’ve got a really great friendship. We’ve worked together on TV now as well and developed a really good chemistry there as well.
“We actually talked about it during the week and said, ‘yep, righto, we’ll swap jumpers after the game’.”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-of-old-hardwick-thrilled-with-upset-win-despite-recruit-s-injury-20230512-p5d83k.html
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I've changed my mind on Jack. He's done after 2023
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We are all peeed at Jack for tonight but he plays out the year easily. Lets' not forget his games against Sydney which isn't that long ago. Had a crap night tonight but where Jack is at is the absolute last of our problems.
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Hardwick also revealed that veteran forward Jack Riewoldt probably should not be playing, but the long-term injury to Tom Lynch means the Tigers have no choice.
"Jack's battling his backside off ... he probably shouldn't be playing, he's incredibly sore," Hardwick said.
"He's tough. He's putting his hand up to play because I need him.
"But we need more."
Source: AAP (https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/afl/hardwick-fumes-after-horrible-tigers-fall-to-bombers/ar-AA1bs8g2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d8a1ba3aa7d748349187d56bfd0fca4e&ei=5).
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Just watching the replay there were moments where he looks incredibly sore. So understand the comment
And although his auskicker kick along the ground cost us the game don't think he is the biggest issue we have forward
He needs support. Was 2 teamed at every contest last night and stupidly our entries went to him I'd say 85% of the time.
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Our forward entry is the worst I’ve seen in almost a decade , and just plain dumb to boot.The Dons back men were picking us off at will when we bombed long
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I feel sorry for Jack - this was supposed to be his farewell tour. A year of cameos and getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
Instead he has to do all the heavy lifting at 34 years of age . He’s so cooked it’s not funny . Unfortunately there’s no one else .
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That’s all well and good but why did a super experienced player such as himself think it was a good idea to softly kick the ball 5m on the ground straight to an Essendon players arms when he knew he was the deepest forward all night. Not the only blunder that led to the goal, but that gave them the initial possession which they slingshotted from into their fwd50.
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I remember the plan that worked against west coast kick it high and long eve big boys dream, short, low chaos entries work way better, why kick it high and long to Jack, he is triples teamed and shorter than the defenders, dumb, dumb dumb tactics
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Jack on AFL360 tomorrow night. Will be all about his reaction to Dimma quitting.
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I feel sorry for Jack - this was supposed to be his farewell tour. A year of cameos and getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
Instead he has to do all the heavy lifting at 34 years of age . He’s so cooked it’s not funny . Unfortunately there’s no one else .
My thoughts exactly.
Shame Lynch went down but the fact we have nobody else to back him up speaks volumes of the club's poor list management.
Lynch pretty much never plays a full year so it was to be expected that this would happen to Jack eventually.
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I feel sorry for Jack - this was supposed to be his farewell tour. A year of cameos and getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
Instead he has to do all the heavy lifting at 34 years of age . He’s so cooked it’s not funny . Unfortunately there’s no one else .
My thoughts exactly.
Shame Lynch went down but the fact we have nobody else to back him up speaks volumes of the club's poor list management.
Lynch pretty much never plays a full year so it was to be expected that this would happen to Jack eventually.
Still doesn't excuse his Auskicker moment with a minute to go that ultimately lead to us losing the game
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Still doesn't excuse his Auskicker moment with a minute to go that ultimately lead to us losing the game
And Dimma quitting arguably....
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I feel sorry for Jack - this was supposed to be his farewell tour. A year of cameos and getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
Instead he has to do all the heavy lifting at 34 years of age . He’s so cooked it’s not funny . Unfortunately there’s no one else .
My thoughts exactly.
Shame Lynch went down but the fact we have nobody else to back him up speaks volumes of the club's poor list management.
Lynch pretty much never plays a full year so it was to be expected that this would happen to Jack eventually.
This :thumbsup
i think if you go back and read comments, probably by Claw and many others, this was a glaring issue we said may happen...and it has.
I hope there is some accountability here.
I dont blame Jack at all for any of the forward issues, not even in the slightest
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I feel sorry for Jack - this was supposed to be his farewell tour. A year of cameos and getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
Instead he has to do all the heavy lifting at 34 years of age . He’s so cooked it’s not funny . Unfortunately there’s no one else .
My thoughts exactly.
Shame Lynch went down but the fact we have nobody else to back him up speaks volumes of the club's poor list management.
Lynch pretty much never plays a full year so it was to be expected that this would happen to Jack eventually.
This :thumbsup
i think if you go back and read comments, probably by Claw and many others, this was a glaring issue we said may happen...and it has.
I hope there is some accountability here.
I dont blame Jack at all for any of the forward issues, not even in the slightest
I don’t recall anyone on here mentioning that we need more forwards :rollin
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Jack's on AFL360 right now.
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Jack's on AFL360 right now.
‘Pit in your stomach’: Star Tiger’s touching Dimma tribute, response to ‘under the bus’ sledge
David Zita
Fox Sports
May 24th, 2023
Richmond spearhead Jack Riewoldt has paid tribute to outgoing coach Damien Hardwick.
Hardwick fought back tears on Tuesday as he announced his immediate resignation from a role he had held since 2010.
That role included three premierships alongside Riewoldt, with the 34-year-old having played 289 games under Hardwick - the second-biggest partnership in VFL/AFL history.
“It’s very emotional. There’s that sadness of the person that has been tasked with the job of inspiring you, leading you, driving you to the ultimate success and guiding you through that is not going to be at that football club when we walk in the door tomorrow and start to prepare for this weekend’s game,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.
“There’s probably a pit in your stomach where you’re like ‘Oh, that journey and that era is over’, which is really sad.
“There’s only two players at the football club that have played for Richmond and have been coached by another coach other than Damien, that’s myself and Trent (Cotchin).
“Everyone else has spent their whole journey under him as a father figure, which most senior coaches take on, because you go and pluck kids from all over Australia from different backgrounds and they sort of yearn to attach themselves to the senior coach, the person that provides them with their opportunity to achieve their goals, whether that’s getting one game, getting 100 games or winning a premiership, which we’ve been lucky to do, but there is always an element of sadness with that.”
Hardwick’s role as senior coach looked in significant jeopardy at the close of 2016 following an underwhelming the season, but the Tigers now famously opted to stay the course.
It resulted in three premierships in four years, with the Tigers’ willingness to embrace vulnerability a hallmark of their success.
“I think, 2017, we developed this intangible bond that gave us strength on the field which you couldn’t actually quantify ... there was this special bond that we developed through the 2017 pre-season that has lasted for a long time,” Riewoldt reflected.
“There’s so many guys in that era that went on to play 19’ and 20’ as well that there’s a really special bond there and he was the provider of that bond.
“The infamous education piece, the ‘Triple H’ - the hero, hardship and highlight - and we found what our secret key was to unlocking success.
“It doesn’t work for everyone and that’s the search for any sporting team I suppose, what’s the intangible that you can bring as a group that will connect you?”
The relationship Hardwick had with his players extended to individual bonds, including with Riewoldt.
“At some of my lowest points when I‘ve been performing really poorly, he’s welcomed me into his house on a Tuesday, Wednesday night and said, ‘Right let’s have three beers each and let’s just figure this out. What’s going on?’”, he said.
“That’s really special as a mentor and as a coach, you’re looking after 45 players plus the whole club, to then just single one person out to try and get a response from them.”
Riewoldt’s career will see him finish as one of the best forwards of the modern era, with 335 games and 771 goals to his name at the close of round 10.
It made Riewoldt’s words about Hardwick’s influence all the more impactful.
“He’s been the most important figure in my football career. I’m probably speaking on behalf of Trent and Dustin (Martin) and Dylan (Grimes), the four players that have been there from the start, he would certainly be the most important figure in all of our careers.
“The impact that he’s had from a technical point of view and just from a teaching point of view, but then from a caring point of view and a nurturing point of view. Life lessons as well. It’s not always been, we haven’t been mollycoddled and told we’re great.
“There’s been some hard truths and we’ve got the cane out a few times and sort of just whipped us a little bit and said ‘Hey, what’s going on here?’ so there’s certainly that aspect of it as well.
“It’s a huge impact. We wouldn’t be the players we are today without him and Richmond wouldn’t be the club it is today without him.”
One of Hardwick’s final stories included a cheeky dig at Riewoldt.
“One last story before I go. I rang the great Jack Riewoldt and I sort of said: ‘Mate are you available to catch up?’ Of course, Jack made it all about him,” Hardwick said with a laugh.
“I said: ‘No mate, this isn’t about you for once in your life.’ He’ll be deeply embarrassed about that, but it does sum up Jack, to be fair.”
Riewoldt responded on 360.
“I’ve been thrown under the bus there. The last time he’s thrown me under. Getting to the end of your career and obviously I had one rough game on the weekend and getting a bit older,” he said.
“I get a text from him, he goes ‘Hey mate, are you free to catch up today?’ and I’ve just gone ‘Oh no, I’m getting wound up here!’. I said I had something on I couldn’t get out of, I said ‘I can’t, but are you free to chat on the phone now?’ and he called me.
“I sort of said maybe I was sort of half-expecting this text a little bit and then he goes ‘It’s not about you mate, it’s about me!’ and I was like ‘Oh’ and then he said what he said and I was like ‘Oh no!’”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-2023-damien-hardwick-quits-richmond-coach-jack-riewoldt-interview-reaction-phone-call/news-story/9b7de34233e38754464151f4614b1956
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Former CEO Steven Wright on twitter:
"Riewoldt is cooked and only playing to help cover lynch"
https://twitter.com/smwright1965/status/1662725678037635072
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I have so much admiration for Jack this year . He really should just retire - season is dusted .
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Give him a month off. Play Bradtke & Bauer.
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Actually felt for Jack today.
He is struggling and Aliir is a very good player and very agile for his size.
It was clear very early that Aliir had Jack's measure so what did we do?
We continued to direct 90% of our F50 entries through Jack playing completely into Port's hands
Good God we are a dumb footy side these days :help :banghead
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And subbed Ryan off, mmm
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It is abundantly clear that we need more tall forwards.
Hopefully the club picks at least one in the MSD.
Would like to see Bradke debut at some point too.
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It is abundantly clear that we need more tall forwards.
Hopefully the club picks at least one in the MSD.
Would like to see Bradke debut at some point too.
Bradtke will struggle but we need to play him to see if he comes on imho
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Should bring in Bradtke ASAP but the team are still going to instinctively go to Riewoldt most of the time. :shh
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We took Bauer as a forward.
Bradtke as a forward.
Don't care how rookie they are, they need to get games while Lynch is hurt and Jack is bruised.
Elsewise why bother?
See lots of teams play kids in their first year why not us
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A midfielder will always prefer to hit up a moving target it’s how they train.
Why our forwards prefer to wave their arms for the long kick over the top is beyond me.
All our forwards should be leading and that gives the mids confidence to hit them up.
I haven’t seen much of it this year. Not having Lynch up there hasn’t helped either.
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What are our coaches watching you can see a Jack is not up to it and is sore.
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Jack's body must having been feeling better today. He was moving much better and of course he kicked a bag of 5. His footy smarts are as good as ever.
Only 2 career goals now behind KB by the way.
Titus 970
Richo 800
KB 778
Jack 776*
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KB easy but can he catch Richo? I doubt it but guarantee Richo will give him a bit of stock about it haha
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Tigers find their Jack in a box
Set to turn 35 later this year, Jack Riewoldt was still as spritely as ever at Giants Stadium. The veteran Richmond forward, in the absence of partner Tom Lynch, continued to impress as the focal point of the side's attack. He has now kicked bags of four against Sydney, four against Melbourne and four against the Giants since Lynch exited the team. Riewoldt led strongly, marked well above his head and ended the contest with a game-high five goals. It could have been more, given he took eight shots, but his 10 score involvements were among the most on the ground and inspired Richmond to victory.
15 disposals (9k, 6h, 9c, 5u, 46.7% eff.)
8 marks (3 contested marks)
3 tackles (2 F50 tackles)
228 metres gained
1 intercept
10 score involvements
1 goal assist
5 goals
3 behinds
89% time on ground
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4891#match-report).
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Played well, my call was get rid of him, obviously wrong, well done Jack
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Did really well - I thought his 5 goal games were behind him .
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Jack Riewoldt had carried Richmond throughout the game, with the veteran Tigers forward finishing with five goals – his most in a game since 2021 – and producing several clutch moments late in the match. Set to turn 35 later this year, McQualter heaped praise on the club's star forward but wouldn't be drawn on his future.
"I don't think I've ever met anyone as competitive as Jack," McQualter said.
"He's such a proud person. He's clearly not able to do what he did in 2017, but he just finds a way every week. He's been really competitive for us and he's playing a role for us. To be able to get a lick of the ice cream today was great reward for him.
"It's far above my pay grade (whether he can play on). That's for Jack and the club to work out. I'm not sure right now. I know he's really focused on this year and seeing what happens."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/943071/-it-s-just-moments-how-the-tigers-finally-won-a-close-one).
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Jumpin' Jack can go again in 2024
It was vintage Jack Riewoldt. He led strongly, marked well above his head, and – for the most part – converted his chances. Riewoldt's performance in Richmond's thrilling victory over Greater Western Sydney, which yielded five goals and 10 score involvements from eight scoring shots and eight marks, was evidence he can play into an 18th season next year if he chooses. Riewoldt has wound back the years since becoming the focal point of the side's forward line in the absence of Tom Lynch. He's kicked four against Melbourne, four against Sydney, and now five against the Giants – all without Lynch – to notch 21 goals from 11 games so far this season. If the Tigers are willing, and if he's determined, who is to say Jack can't play on?
- Riley Beveridge
https://www.afl.com.au/news/940684/seven-things-we-learned-this-dog-is-the-best-ruck-in-the-game
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Most times kicking first goal in AFL games since 1999:
50 - JACK RIEWOLDT
43 - Josh Kennedy (Carl/WCE)
36 - Lance Franklin
33 - Stephen Milne
31 - Tom Hawkins
28 - Nick Riewoldt
28 - Matthew Lloyd
28 - Steve Johnson
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1665198536420388864
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I feel like people (non rfc folk) forget jack Riewoldt is a god damn 3x coleman medalist. Incredible journey his career has been. I think he should retire at the end of the year still but massive respect for him to be the focal point when his body is cooked
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I feel like people (non rfc folk) forget jack Riewoldt is a god damn 3x coleman medalist. Incredible journey his career has been. I think he should retire at the end of the year still but massive respect for him to be the focal point when his body is cooked
He’s an absolute warrior, if it weren’t for lynch going down Jack could rest a bit and probably prolong his career another year seeing as we don’t have any talls coming up anyway. He really is a special forward, not only at kicking goals but the smarts and ability to create goals for others. That’s what we will miss the most from him imo
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I feel like people (non rfc folk) forget jack Riewoldt is a god damn 3x coleman medalist. Incredible journey his career has been. I think he should retire at the end of the year still but massive respect for him to be the focal point when his body is cooked
He’s an absolute warrior, if it weren’t for lynch going down Jack could rest a bit and probably prolong his career another year seeing as we don’t have any talls coming up anyway. He really is a special forward, not only at kicking goals but the smarts and ability to create goals for others. That’s what we will miss the most from him imo
Honestly if the club would commit to getting games into blokes like Bradtke and Bauer as forwards I would consider keeping Jack on in 2024 pretty much for Vic games only/mentoring/injury backup.
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The Overreaction: Riewoldt is finished
That was the reaction from some when it came to Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt.
He was criticised for quiet outings against Port Adelaide and Essendon which came with suggestions that the cliff was coming quickly.
At the ripe old age of 34, as the key forward target and battling soreness, he had no right to kick a match-winning bag of five. It could have been seven or eight as well if he kicked accurately.
In Tom Lynch’s absence, Riewoldt has performed admirably in 2023.
He has a massive ticker and should be commended for his ability to continue having an impact after all these years.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/05/overreactions-positives-negatives-and-undroppables-for-all-18-afl-teams-in-12/).
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Player A:
Goals: 1.9
Contested Marks: 1.9
Offensive 1v1: 5.4
1v1 Win%: 27.1
Frees for: 0.7
Player B:
Goals: 1.8
Contested Marks: 1.8
Offensive 1v1: 3.8
1v1 Win%: 21.7
Frees for: 1.3
No point in wasting everyone's time with a poll given I've cherry picked stats (albeit important stats for a KPF) all favouring player A, who is Jack Riewoldt - a bloke that some fans and media want to retire every second week.
Player B is Aaron Naughton. This is not a dig at him, though I would prefer the dogs to play him in defence and let him be the AA calibre intercepting defender he was destined to be.
Just enjoy Jack, and if we are blessed enough that he gets another contract, it wasn't a "gift"
https://twitter.com/TigerWooda/status/1665834256860606464
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Here here.
It’s funny those who want him retired because he doesn’t deliver, when it’s the brains trust footy department who have him as the number one forward at his age.
They are the clowns who have missed up our forward line. Jack is doing what he should and CAN do.
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I feel like people (non rfc folk) forget jack Riewoldt is a god damn 3x coleman medalist. Incredible journey his career has been. I think he should retire at the end of the year still but massive respect for him to be the focal point when his body is cooked
He’s an absolute warrior, if it weren’t for lynch going down Jack could rest a bit and probably prolong his career another year seeing as we don’t have any talls coming up anyway. He really is a special forward, not only at kicking goals but the smarts and ability to create goals for others. That’s what we will miss the most from him imo
Honestly if the club would commit to getting games into blokes like Bradtke and Bauer as forwards I would consider keeping Jack on in 2024 pretty much for Vic games only/mentoring/injury backup.
While he remains well in front of Kaelen and Jacob he should stay. I don't have a problem keeping Jack never have as you know, but i do have a problem with the club not playing one of those kids alongside both jack and lynchy when fit..The only way to get games into young tall fwds is committing fully to three tall fwds.
It is exactly what most other clubs are doing and have done so forever. Us well we have not even bothered drafting them in the main and now wonder why we have no depth.
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Riewoldt kicked two goals for the game, to take him level with legend Kevin Bartlett (778 goals) on the Richmond career goalkicking tally.
He is now only 22 short of Matthew Richardson (800), who is second on the Tigers’ tally behind Jack ‘Skinny’ Titus (970).
Titus 970
Richo 800
KB 778
Jack 778*
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/early-tackle-all-the-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-13-of-the-afl-season/news-story/b67be3ce43090a0d4f29320f5cb44719
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Jack's footy smarts on full display once again with this tap through his legs :bow.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/RiewoldtIngeniousKnockOnR132023.gif)
:clapping
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Feel like he could be a more reliable shot for goal under pressure. Missed a soda when we needed a steadier.
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Feel like he could be a more reliable shot for goal under pressure. Missed a soda when we needed a steadier.
Agreed. Same with Pickett.
Jack should have had at least 3 snags last night maybe 4
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Jack is co-host tonight with Whateley on AFL360.
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Jack on Fox Footy: He wore the long sleeves because Hardwick outlawed them and Jack wanted to stir him. :D
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Jack has been an outstanding champion of the club. But he needs to rest and retire. We cannot afford him in the team just for 10 minutes where he does something.
Unfortunately his battled body has got to him.
Is missing for too long in games
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Jack now has moved above KB and into third on the Club's all-time goalkicking list:
Titus 970
Richo 800
Jack 779*
KB 778
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‘He reckons I’m dead to him now’: Tigers star reveals Hardwick’s hilarious reaction after long-sleeve debut
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
July 7th, 2023
Star Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt has revealed why it took him so long to don a long-sleeve jumper in an AFL match – and the cheeky reaction from his former coach when the latter was informed via text.
In a rare sight for Tigers fans, Riewoldt wore a long-sleeve Richmond guernsey during his side’s thrilling 13-point win over Sydney at the MCG on Thursday night.
Long-sleeve jumpers weren’t common for Tigers players under Damien Hardwick’s successful reign.
But after the triple premiership coach’s shock mid-season departure in May, Riewoldt said he was quick to inquire about the possibility of wearing one.
“Well it was contraband when Dimma was coaching and as soon as he got the lemonade and sars – or he decided to leave – I put the order in to PUMA,” Riewoldt sad with a laugh on Fox Footy post-game.
“It’s come through. I’m looking forward to wearing the yellow one on the away trip.
“It was very funny. Dustin (Martin) and I sent him (Hardwick) a photo before the game – I think the big fella is over in Amsterdam at the moment dodging around the lights – and he laughed at us. He reckons I’m dead to him now I’ve worn the long sleeve – and funnily enough I just sent him back a photo of him wearing one.”
Riewoldt on Thursday night kicked his first goal since Round 13, taking his career tally to 779 and leapfrogging the legendary Kevin Bartlett to move into outright second on the Tigers’ all-time goalkicking table.
“It’s a bit of a weight off my shoulders to be honest,” Riewoldt said. “That’s what I was thinking, it was going to be Mark Taylor retiring on 334 with Don Bradman.
“It has been weighing on my mind a little bit, obviously the last couple of weeks I haven’t kicked a goal. As a key forward you still want to be in that aerial contest, which I felt like I did tonight, but also you want to hit the scoreboard. Just glad to get a goal but also at an important time of the game.”
Asked if he could catch second-ranked Matthew Richardson (800 goals), Riewoldt said: “You’d have to be a silly punter to back me, I reckon, or my teammates would have to try and find me left, right and centre.”
Richmond fought back from 26 points down to win the thriller against Sydney, keeping its faint finals hopes alive in the process and all but extinguishing the Swans’ September ambitions.
“It was a big game of footy for us,” Riewoldt said. “Taking my Richmond hat off and player hat off, these are the games that you need to win if you look at the way the ladder is positioned at the moment and the fight for seventh and eighth positions.
“For us to win, that is a credit to our guys after what was a poor performance last week, we were able to bounce back nicely.”
The Tigers kicked 7.10 to Sydney’s 3.3 after half-time as their increased intensity – both with and without the ball – led to territory dominance.
“Andrew (McQualter) has just spoken about Richmond behaviours since day dot when he took over from Dimma and we really wanted to win the contest,” Riewoldt said.
“We know that Sydney are an extremely skilful side – probably not the Sydney we’ve all grown to know over the last decade or so where they play tough, hard footy … they’ve still got that – and that was probably the thing that got us against the Lions and we were really trying to be aware of that. He had a focus to bring the pressure – and our pressure rating went through the roof.
“Walking up the tunnel and seeing the rain, as much as it doesn’t put a smile on a key forward’s face, it puts a smile on those midfielders … knowing they can play that in and under style footy we got them to the football club for.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-jack-riewoldt-wears-long-sleeve-jumper-in-richmond-win-over-sydney-damien-hardwick/news-story/04588cf51be2aaedd9b1a897db6648a7
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Most V/@AFL games kicking 1+ goals
329 - Kevin Bartlett
319 - Lance Franklin
301 - Leigh Matthews
300 - JACK RIEWOLDT
295 - Tom Hawkins
289 - Brent Harvey
https://twitter.com/ChickenLentil/status/1680525175308075008
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Almost cooked is Jack.
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Does it really matter, he's the only fwd we have and he's 34. He may be cooked but stuff me let's ensure we give him whY he deserves. The constant narrative saying he is finished isnt that
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Almost cooked is Jack.
Lol , was better than the other Jack
WITHOUT DOUBT
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Almost cooked is Jack.
Lol , was better than the other Jack
WITHOUT DOUBT
I thought Jack Ross was very good myself :rollin
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Almost cooked is Jack.
Lol , was better than the other Jack
WITHOUT DOUBT
I thought Jack Ross was very good myself :rollin
Sorry WP
You are correct .. Jack Ross was ok
Jack “The Machine” Graham was the worst of the trio without doubt
Ross is going past Graham at a rate of knots
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All 3 jacks were hopeless.
Ross worst game for 2 months.
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Does it really matter, he's the only fwd we have and he's 34. He may be cooked but stuff me let's ensure we give him whY he deserves. The constant narrative saying he is finished isnt that
Not almost cooked, HE IS BURNT CHARCOAL. FINISHED
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Jack had a game high 9 marks (3 contested) and 9 score involvements (third most behind Bolton & Dusty). He's staying in the side with those numbers. Just needs to convert his chances more like most of his teammates over the past two weeks.
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Jack had a game high 9 marks (3 contested) and 9 score involvements (third most behind Bolton & Dusty). He's staying in the side with those numbers. Just needs to convert his chances more like most of his teammates over the past two weeks.
He is cooked . Stats don't tell the real story.
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Jack had a game high 9 marks (3 contested) and 9 score involvements (third most behind Bolton & Dusty). He's staying in the side with those numbers. Just needs to convert his chances more like most of his teammates over the past two weeks.
He is cooked . Stats don't tell the real story.
He's struggling with long kicking accuracy and distance but otherwise he's playing fine for a bloke at 34 being the solo key forward.
Shame he's been hung out to dry like this. With Lynch missing the rest of the year there's no reason not to try Bradtke for a few games at least.
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Poor bugger is probably only staying on to help us out.
Why not put Bradtke in? Mind you that would put more pressure on our defensive pressure players and forward defence turnovers would probably dip significantly.
If either Gibcus or Lynch were able to play it would have given us more options.
Also Cumberland situation needs reassessment.
Unfortunately it is what it is, Jack is doing the best he can so good on him.
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perfect scapaegoat for bad management is Jack is at the moment.
He is doing his job now. Its' not his fault if the idiots above him didnt want to get help in the offseason, or picked the wrong players like bradtke or just refuse to play Cumberland and instead pick other wrong choices.
Bad kicking for goal was his issue yesterday.
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Lynch injury has spoiled what should've a been a cruising testimonial year playing loose or on second and third defenders. :shh
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Maybe bring in Biggie or Ryan to partner with Jack and Miller. We need arial support froward of the ball.
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What no one is talking about: Riewoldt display
Jack Riewoldt ... had [an] influential game ... that will go under the radar.
Riewoldt has had a lean time of it lately, but has been battling away manfully to fill the gaping hole left by the injured Tom Lynch.
He might not have hit the scoreboard as much as he would have liked on Sunday, but the veteran ended the day with a game-best nine marks (three contested), nine score involvements and three tackles (two inside 50).
It was an intriguing battle with Tom Barrass, but Riewoldt would have grabbed the honours for his hard-working display.
- Andrew Slevison
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/17/overreactions-positives-negatives-and-undroppables-for-all-18-afl-teams-in-18/
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Jack Riewoldt is still undecided when it comes to his future on the field!
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1683790211409489920
* Lynch being out means there's been more workload for Jack than expected. He's also now taking the best defender.
* Had niggles here and there over the last 3 months.
* Original preseason plan after discussions with Dimma was Jack (and Cotch) playing one month on then a week off. However, there's been a necessity for Jack to play every week.
* What happens with Lynch heading into 2024 may be a factor. We were expecting him to return this year, but he's had a couple of setbacks. Do you stay on for six months as a stop gap? Depends if Jack is keeping someone younger out of the team.
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Musn't rate Bradtke then ..... :shh
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I think we could have had a shot at Gunston but that was a sliding doors moment
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‘Interesting time’: Tigers champ Jack Riewoldt still weighing up future as left-field option floated
Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
July 26th, 2023
Richmond champion Jack Riewoldt says he’s still unsure on what his AFL future holds with five rounds remaining in the home and away season, but concedes “I can’t do things that I used to be able to do.”
The three-time premiership Tiger, who turns 35 in October, is out of contract at season’s end and is weighing up retirement or extending his decorated career into an 18th season.
It comes amid a transition period at Punt Road after the club’s golden era, with long-time coach Damien Hardwick resigning mid-season, CEO Brendon Gale’s future believed to be uncertain and triple-premiership skipper Trent Cotchin also considering hanging up the boots.
Speaking on Fox Footy’s AFL 360 on Tuesday night, Riewoldt admitted star forward Tom Lynch missing most of the season through injury has changed his workload and original plans for 2023, also revealing he’s played through niggles.
“I’m still undecided about what it looks like. I think the big thing for me is not having ‘Lynchy’ there has probably changed a little bit of what the workload was going to look like for me,” the 343-gamer said.
“It probably means I’ve been playing on the best defender every week, which I was pencilling in maybe him taking the best defender every week. I can’t do things that I used to be able to do. I’ve been battling along for a little bit with a few niggles here and there probably for the last sort of three months.
“Probably just out of necessity really I’ve been playing every game. Ideally — and I had the conversation at the end of last year with Dimma (Hardwick) — I’d probably be a month on, one week off and Trent (Cothcin) was probably a little bit in the same position.
“I really love the weekend, going in to play footy, travelling into the MCG or travelling wherever, I’ve really enjoyed travelling interstate this year and soaking that up as well.
“There’s a few things that I’ll probably toss up over the next month, I think Trent will probably be in the same boat. It’s an interesting time.”
The Tigers’ season remains very much alive, having gone 6-2 under caretaker coach Andrew McQualter, who’s the favourite to retain the role on a full-time basis in 2024, to sit 10th on the ladder.
With Lynch sidelined, Riewoldt is on track to lead Richmond’s goalkicking for a 12th time in his career, currently with 26 goals from 17 games.
Asked who’ll ultimately make the decision on his future, the three-time Coleman medallist said “there’s a few factors,” but suggested the call was largely in the club’s hands, also floating the possibility of playing half the 2024 season.
“Have you got a ready replacement to come in or are you stopping someone else playing in the team?,” Riewoldt said.
“Clearly another issue for us is that we thought Lynchy would be back playing by now and he’s had a few setbacks there. Where does he sit going into the next season?
“There’s the possibility you could just play half a year to sort of be a stopgap for a point in time. In terms of players being able to go out on their own accord, I think the club has to still have the final call.
“Players go out there and play sometimes when they’re not fully fit, when they shouldn’t be playing, but they just love the absolute battle of it all. No one’s ever bigger than the club.”
Riewoldt admitted he was “a little bit daunted” about the thought of life outside of footy, having been at Richmond since he was 18 years old.
“I’ve played senior footy for 17 years now at Richmond. I’ve held one other job, which was working at Sportsco at Eastlands in Hobart, folding t-shirts,” he said.
“My day is revolved around driving up and down Punt Road and everything is scheduled in that.
“I think there’s a life of an AFL footballer — especially when you’ve been around for over a decade — that you become a bit institutionalised to it.
“So maybe there is a little bit of daunting thoughts about that post the end of your career, but there’s also things you get to go and do you can’t do now while you’re an AFL player.”
Should he call time on his career, Riewoldt is eyeing off the Tigers’ Round 23 clash against North Melbourne at the MCG as his farewell match.
“I’ve looked at it. We play North Round 23, if I was to finish up this year, that would be a game I would probably look at,” he said.
The three-time All-Australian added with a laugh: “I don’t know whether I want to go all the way to Port Adelaide (in Round 24), if this year is my last year, and play my last game of footy.
“But there’s so many factors, we’re right in the hunt of finals again. You might not get a choice where you finish up.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-2023-jack-riewoldt-future-weighing-up-retirement-richmond-tigers-playing-half-the-2024-season-afl-360-latest-news/news-story/4c932b86f273308562b675c3cac5575d
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Jack Riewoldt is poised to win Richmond’s leading goalkicker award for a 12th time.
The triple Tiger premiership star key forward has kicked 30 goals this season with three home-and-away rounds remaining, which is six ahead of Shai Bolton on 24 goals, followed by Dustin Martin, 21 goals.
Matthew Richardson won the Tigers’ leading goalkicker award 13 times throughout his illustrious playing career, while Titus achieved the feat 11 times.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1396878/riewoldt-in-line-for-another-goalkicking-milestone
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Jack Riewoldt speaks on whether he'll play on after this season or not...
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1688855675168870400
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Him and Cotchin have earn’t the right to wait until the last minute. Noone will influence premierships in my lifetime like they have.
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Hope he plays on for 1 more year. He deserves to see out his career as the third man up not the first.
Lets hope the club make the right call as coach, who will never let this happen again to a champ.
An absolute legend of our club.
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Him and Cotchin have earn’t the right to wait until the last minute. Noone will influence premierships in my lifetime like they have.
Dusty says “hold my beer”
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Hope he plays on for 1 more year. He deserves to see out his career as the third man up not the first.
Lets hope the club make the right call as coach, who will never let this happen again to a champ.
An absolute legend of our club.
I agree. Have come around to this position also.
Even if he retires by the MSD because he's way too stuffed.
But heck if he plays 10 games and kicks 15 goals I'm happy for him.
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I am in the opposite camp on this
I hate seeing champions going that one season too long
So based on that I think he should retire, go out on his terms as the champion he is
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If he is going to retire would good if he announces it very soon as he deserves a farewell game in Melbourne. There are so many fans that would like to pay tribute to him for his incredible service to this club.
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Time to move on his a champion, but the club has to carry on.
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The annoying thing is if lynch had played all season I think we would all think about Jack a bit differently. I'd be tempted to keep him on seeing as we have no KPF coming up and play him alongside Bauer and Lynch. He could also rest games too, I just think he's such a smart forward that whoever we would play alongside him and lynch would benefit greatly from him. Who knows though, maybe we will recruit a KPF in the off season and that would make keeping jack around not worth it probably.
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This should be his last year IMO.
Time to find the next Jack.
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Reading between the lines he will want to play on.
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Jack Riewoldt reveals ‘fluid’ talks with Tigers as host challenges Richmond great about AFL future
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
August 9th, 2023
Triple premiership Tiger Jack Riewoldt concedes his and Trent Cotchin’s footy futures are “probably the last priority” for Richmond’s list management team as the star forward remains uncertain if he wants to play on next season.
Riewoldt, 34, has played 19 of a possible 20 games so far this season and leads the Tigers’ goalkicking with 30.24.
The triple Coleman Medallist has remained Richmond’s focal point inside forward 50 due to the absence of Tom Lynch, who’ll finish the season with just nine goals and four games due to a foot injury that’s kept him sidelined for most of 2023.
Speaking on Fox Footy’s AFL 360, Riewoldt hinted that playing more games with Lynch this season might’ve made his decision to play on in 2024 easier.
Riewoldt said he was having “fluid discussions” with key Tigers personnel around his future as his motivation to sign another contract constantly fluctuates.
The Tigers champion’s comments came during an intriguing and, at times, cheeky back-and-forth with AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson on Tuesday night.
Here’s the transcript of how the conversation played out:
Mark Robinson: Are you losing sleep about not having a decision made or you making a decision?
Jack Riewoldt: Nope. Not at all. There’s fluid …
MR: Have you made a decision?
JR: There’s fluid discussions constantly. It’s probably more so me – and Trent’s in the same boat as me – and Blair Hartley the list manager and one of our football managers as well – we just constantly chat and make sure we keep each other informed, because there’s days where you go: ‘Aw nah, Aw yeah. Aw nah. Aw yeah.’
MR: So where are we now?
JR: I don’t know …
MR: Nah or yeah?
JR: … I changed my mind three times on the way in in the car!
MR: So it’s more …
JR: You just have to be honest. But also the other thing is that like last year, we’re probably the last priority if we do want to play on, because it’s: ‘Here’s what’s left, that’s what we pay you.’ I’m 34 and Trent’s 33, but there’s other priorities in the football club – re-signing and making sure we can get the best out of the club in the next decade, rather than the next 10 minutes. We continue to have conversations.
MR: Do you believe …
JR: There’s obviously …
MR: … do you believe you’ve got another season in you?
JR: I don’t know.
MR: So you’ve got three games left to decide?
JR: That’s it. There’s a knocker on it, there’s three games to decide. Either way there’ll be something out soon.
MR: So how you perform in the next three games is going to decide whether you go on or not?
JR: I don’t think so, but it’s just how I feel.
MR: So how are you feeling? I’d like to see you with Tom Lynch …
JR: Yeah so would I …
MR: … and I think you would like to play with Tom Lynch beside you to see how you would go?
JR: You said I get sick of people asking me the questions. You’ve asked me the same question in a different way five times – and I’m sick of it!
MR: Well you’re getting paid, so you’ve got to say something!
JR: Are we getting paid?! You’re joking!
MR: I’ll say it again mate: You’re the champ and you’ve got a decision to make and people are interested. Now some people are saying you’re done, some people are saying they’d like to see you with Tom Lynch. But it’s up to you …
JR: Yep, that’s it …
MR: So you’re not going to tell us?
JR: … it is up to me and the club.
MR: What would your wife say if I asked her?
JR: You’ll have to ring her and ask her. You’ll have to get her number first – good luck!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-jack-riewoldt-contract-richmond-legend-grilled-by-mark-robinson-on-afl-360/news-story/0d5eeda81479b71491d9b353ca3ca4d3
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Hope he plays on for 1 more year. He deserves to see out his career as the third man up not the first.
Lets hope the club make the right call as coach, who will never let this happen again to a champ.
An absolute legend of our club.
If he was taking the spot off a kid id say retire.
If we had some depth in key fwds id say retire.
Sad truth is thru mismanagement he continues to be a better option than any young KPF'S we have. not that there is any, only Bradtke and he was always going to take some time.
Even if Bradtke does take a big step next year where is the depth.
Even if we draft a young kpf he too will take time so it seems he will be badly needed given we have no depth atm.
What is ironic is supporters calling for his head when there are no other options and any one we may get is unlikely to be better than JR.
Lynch aged what 31 there should have been a young kpf in the system from the moment we traded for him. Jack aged 34 its the same thing. Even with Bradtke we still need a young genuine sized kpf and we so desperately need a proven mature kpf.
People think this problem will just magically fix itself with a bit of trading or some such crap. It could 5 years before we fix this if we cant get a good trade thru the door. Thing is we should not be forced to rely on trades to fix what should have been a simple list management thing thru the drafts.
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We have to get the pointy end of the draft at some point. Either it's by trading or by being poor.
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Robbo: How does Jack Riewoldt want his story to end?
Mark Robinson
Heraldsun
August 9, 2023 - 5:04PM
In three games, Richmond will farewell one of its greatest captains in Trent Cotchin, but there isn’t the same sense of finality with Jack Riewoldt.
Cotchin, 33, appears to have strangled the towel dry in his endeavours to deliver for the Tigers and his imminent retirement announcement will be a celebration of tremendous achievement.
The three-time premiership skipper was at the forefront of change and introspection at the footy club, which underpinned the premiership dynasty, and he will be remembered with his name sitting a rung below Jack Dyer, Royce Hart, Kevin Bartlett and Dustin Martin as Richmond’s most iconic players.
A soldier’s mentality wearing the general’s hat, the history books will record well the deeds of T. Cotchin.
Riewoldt’s towel is still damp.
At 34 — he will be 35 in October — he will make the decision within the next 10 days or so about retiring or twisting the towel one more time.
It will be Riewoldt’s decision – to a point.
The club and their three-time premiership forward have been in constant discussion about how it ends, when it ends and why it should or shouldn’t end.
The question is: How does Riewoldt want it to end?
A little damp in the towel or bone dry?
It’s probably more unlikely than likely that he plays on, but what’s bugging Riewoldt is that sliver of possibility.
A selfless person, he will not play an 18th season if it does not serve a purpose for the footy club.
Make no mistake, he loves footy and he loves playing and deep down he knows he can still be a contributor, but does playing again help the footy club?
From afar, the easy and logical assessment to make is that he’s cooked, that he’s too old, too tired and he should retire.
Nevermind that he’s carried an injury for 12 weeks, has played as the key focal point with Tom Lynch’s foot injury sidelining him all season, and that for large periods of games Riewoldt has battled against two defenders in the air because every third ball going inside 50 is going to Riewoldt, which the opposition knows too well.
As much as the lack of meaningful defence has hampered this Tigers season, as detailed in Wednesday’s Herald Sun, and their lack of speed through the middle, so has Richmond’s predictability going forward.
Riewoldt would like a shot at it being injury-free (if that’s possible at 35), playing as the second or third tall beside youngster Samson Ryan, with Lynch the lynch-pin.
The other concern is Lynch’s foot. What happens if Riewoldt retires and Lynch’s foot busts apart? Ryan isn’t ready to be No. 1 and even though the Tigers are scouting for another tall forward, Riewoldt’s experience would be valuable.
Tigers great Mathew Richardson highlighted exactly that scenario on the Channel 7 telecast last Friday night.
Maybe the Tigers have earmarked Josh Gibcus — another who has missed all of the 2023 season — as a forward, but with Dylan Grimes nearing the end, Gibcus looms to be the defensive mainstay.
Riewoldt was noncommittal when badgered for an answer about his future on AFL360 this week.
Also, interim coach Andrew McQualter said this week that he, personally, is not in discussion with any player about 2024, so without an official senior coach in place, there’s uncertainty there.
If McQualter gets the job, it will mostly be Riewoldt’s decision. If someone else were to be appointed, the new coach could scupper any plans for another season.
The gut feel is he wants go on because he knows he can serve a purpose. Time will tell if the Tigers are in total agreement.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/robbo-how-does-jack-riewoldt-want-his-story-to-end/news-story/9c115b602c8510faa65f16e2a88e2b53
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DWAYNE RUSSELL THINKS RIEWOLDT SHOULD PLAY ON IN 2024 WITH VETERAN YET TO MAKE RETIREMENT CALL
Lachlan Geleit
SEN
9 August 2023
Richmond veteran Jack Riewoldt has left the door ajar to continue playing on in 2024.
The 34-year-old has played all but one game for the Tigers this year but is yet to decide whether or not he’ll hang the boots up at season’s end.
Riewoldt joined Fox Footy’s AFL 360 on Tuesday night where he admitted he was yet to make his mind up as he engages in ongoing conversations with Richmond list manager Blair Hartley.
“There are still discussions constantly between me – Trent (Cotchin) is in the same boat – and Blair Hartley the list manager and one of our football managers as well,” Riewoldt said.
“We just constantly chat and make sure we keep each other informed because there are days where you go, ‘Oh, nup (I’ll retire). Oh, yes (I’ll continue)’.
“But I don’t know, I changed my mind three times just on the way in the car.
“You just have to be honest. But also that's the other thing … like last year we were probably the last priority if we do want to play on because it's, ‘Here's what's left, that's what we pay you’.
“As I’m 34 and Trent's 33, there are other priorities at the football club with re-signings and making sure that we can get the best out of the club in the next decade rather than the next 10 minutes.”
After Riewoldt didn’t rule out playing on, SEN’s Dwayne Russell found his comments interesting given he will likely have a media career lined up whenever he does step away.
“Jack Riewoldt’s always interesting on AFL360,” Russell said on SEN Afternoons.
“He's got a ready-made role in the media when he retires, Jack. But when is he actually hanging up the boots?
“Last night on AFL360 he kind of hedged his bets. It's retirement season right now.
“We heard Andrew Phillips retire yesterday at the end of the season, we know that Luke Shuey is retiring at the end of the season, and we know that Ben Cunnington is having one more game this week.
“Jack Riewoldt seems to give us the indication that he might play again next year.”
Given that Riewoldt currently leads Richmond’s goalkicking with 30 majors in 2023, Russell believes the key forward still has gas in the tank and said he’d offer the veteran a new deal if he were a club.
Russell believes Riewoldt could enjoy one final season as Lance Franklin has with Sydney in 2023 where he had somewhat of a changeover with the club’s young key forwards.
“There are reports that Trent Cotchin is going to announce his retirement, I'm not sure how true they are,” Russell said.
“But Jack Riewoldt, I reckon they should offer him minimum chips and list him for next year.
“I think he could have a Lance Franklin kind of year next year.
“Samson Ryan's not quite ready. We don't know if Tom Lynch is going to be injured or whether he's available.
“(In Franklin’s case) I liked the fact that (Logan) McDonald and (Joel) Amartey have had to work their way into the Sydney team to the point that they're now playing some really good football for the Swans.
“I reckon it would be good for Jack Riewoldt to be listed for next year.
“Go around one more year and once two-thirds of the year are over, if he's injured or you find the Samson Ryan is dominant and Tom Lynch and Samson Ryan have got it covered then you don’t need to have Jack in the team.
“So, I don't mind the idea of contracting him on minimum chips.”
Riewoldt has played 345 games and has kicked 785 goals for the Tigers since making his debut in 2007.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/09/russell-thinks-riewoldt-should-play-on-in-2024-with-veteran-yet-to-make/
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Him and Cotchin have earn’t the right to wait until the last minute. Noone will influence premierships in my lifetime like they have.
Dusty says “hold my beer”
Of course.
There are 4 immortals in this group:-
Rance, Dusty, Jack and Cotch
Rance left early but these are the 3 who forever in my mind were the nucleus of the flags with Dimma and Benny.
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Rance gone
Cotch about to
Dusty has another couple of years probably
Not sure I'm ready to say bye to Jack. Have loved watching him play and he's exactly my age to the day, same birthday and all. Watching him retire would just make me feel old and sad I think lol
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As much as Dusty is the icon of the era I feel our success has surrounded so much of Jack's rise. I will really really miss seeing him play. Who would have thought that post Richo our next KP forward would transcends the great man, and that's coming from someone who would have ran through a brick wall for Richo.
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Hope he plays on for 1 more year. He deserves to see out his career as the third man up not the first.
Lets hope the club make the right call as coach, who will never let this happen again to a champ.
An absolute legend of our club.
If he was taking the spot off a kid id say retire.
If we had some depth in key fwds id say retire.
Sad truth is thru mismanagement he continues to be a better option than any young KPF'S we have. not that there is any, only Bradtke and he was always going to take some time.
Even if Bradtke does take a big step next year where is the depth.
Even if we draft a young kpf he too will take time so it seems he will be badly needed given we have no depth atm.
What is ironic is supporters calling for his head when there are no other options and any one we may get is unlikely to be better than JR.
Lynch aged what 31 there should have been a young kpf in the system from the moment we traded for him. Jack aged 34 its the same thing. Even with Bradtke we still need a young genuine sized kpf and we so desperately need a proven mature kpf.
People think this problem will just magically fix itself with a bit of trading or some such crap. It could 5 years before we fix this if we cant get a good trade thru the door. Thing is we should not be forced to rely on trades to fix what should have been a simple list management thing thru the drafts.
exactly. I want him to play third man up with someone else pushing him out, but lets be really honest here. There isn't anyone capable. Laughable some calls for his axing.
i mean if you cant break into a side that has no forward line then they must either coached very poorly, or just be pretty average footballers. Samson Ryan is one where has he gone?
Jack will probably crack 35 goals which isn't bad for a lone man forward at the age of what 35.
I am all for the club being bigger than any player, but In jacks case i dont agree, and especially how he was treated this year. I think i recall Dimma saying this year once about Jack" he is playing injured but he knows i need him" Of course you do, because you have no one else.
The club needs to take a good hard luck at how they have managed our list the last few years as its been an absolute debacle. There were clear list needs and they just refused to accept this as they were aiming for one last dance. The club thought by adding a few guys to the mid would solve all our issues. Never mind the pressure game, defensive 50 transition, scores inside 50, Matters little. Hopper would solve all our issues.
If we recruited Bradtke say in 2020 i wouldn't be that disappointed, but we now have to start from scratch with these guys. Its going to be a very long road. Even longer that we sold our hopper picks, and especially if we dont find our way back in. My hope is we trade like GC/Cats did, and not by selling players because our list management cant do their job properly.
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As much as Dusty is the icon of the era I feel our success has surrounded so much of Jack's rise. I will really really miss seeing him play. Who would have thought that post Richo our next KP forward would transcends the great man, and that's coming from someone who would have ran through a brick wall for Richo.
Oh how quickly they forget
Richo an entirely different level as a player .. not his fault his era was successful
Richo 2.84 goals per game to Jack 2.28
Richo 8.05 marks to Jack 5.28
Richo 14.05 disposals to Jack 11.86
Richo possibly the best contested mark of a football of all time
And without doubt Jack was lucky to spend a portion of his career in far more successful sides .. poor Richo played in some appalling sides
Nice use of the word transcend though
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As much as Dusty is the icon of the era I feel our success has surrounded so much of Jack's rise. I will really really miss seeing him play. Who would have thought that post Richo our next KP forward would transcends the great man, and that's coming from someone who would have ran through a brick wall for Richo.
Oh how quickly they forget
Richo an entirely different level as a player .. not his fault his era was successful
Richo 2.84 goals per game to Jack 2.28
Richo 8.05 marks to Jack 5.28
Richo 14.05 disposals to Jack 11.86
Richo possibly the best contested mark of a football of all time
And without doubt Jack was lucky to spend a portion of his career in far more successful sides .. poor Richo played in some appalling sides
Nice use of the word transcend though
Richo a more gifted athlete by miles.
Jack IMO the smarter player.
Also different eras of course but as a pure football brain I think Jack takes the cake.
Forwards are virtually never isolated 1:1 anymore, kick significantly less goals etc.
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I actually think the best f/f of the three and another Tasmanian was Michael Roach.
We have been well served by Tasmania when it comes to key forwards. Roach, Richo, Riewoldt, Hart. Personally i think our best fwd line of all time
has all 4 plus Titus and Bartlett.
By todays standards Royce would play as a medium hf Titus and Bartlett as small fwds Richo high fwd useing his athleticism a bit like Franklin and Roach would play ff and Jack chf.
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Being isolated less often makes it even better to be a contested marking king like Richo
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Being isolated less often makes it even better to be a contested marking king like Richo
He was a better mark for sure, not that Jack hasn't been awesome.
Only suggesting that I think richo kicked more goals due to his era.
If Richo played in Jack's team he might have kicked 900+ because the team was so much better
Jack similarly would have kicked more in richos era because it was more suited to larger hauls of goals
Generally though I think Jack is smarter, more skilled by foot, a better team player and leader. All very high praise given how I adored richo
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Rance gone
Cotch about to
Dusty has another couple of years probably
Not sure I'm ready to say bye to Jack. Have loved watching him play and he's exactly my age to the day, same birthday and all. Watching him retire would just make me feel old and sad I think lol
I love this post :bow
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Jack Riewoldt has grabbed 32 contested marks this season - the second-most at the club and his most since 2018.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4970#timeline
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Tom Morris on SEN:
RICHMOND
Jack Riewoldt – And while I’m on veterans, it is looking less and less likely by the day that Jack Riewoldt will play on.
I don’t know whether this is his call or the club’s… but unless something changes I don’t expect him to be at the Tigers in 2024.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/13/tom-morris-mega-trade-contract-and-free-agency-update-on-23-afl-players/
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Mentioned today on ABC that Jack might announce his retirement today.
Wouldn't surprise me if he and Cotch both finish up after Roos game with a home game farewell.
Cotch already confirmed.
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if its his call then so be it, if its not then the club can go and get stuffed the way they rag dolled him this year.
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Legend that bled yellow and black
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He announced retirement!!!! 😢😢😢 I guess we all knew it was coming . Enjoy retirement Jack. I hope we see you coaching the tigers sooner rather than later
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv8mpbcPb-q/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Richmond superstar Jack Riewoldt will retire from AFL football following this weekend's match against North Melbourne.
The Club's second all-time leading goal kicker, triple premiership hero, three-time All Australian, three-time Coleman Medallist, and dual Jack Dyer Medallist informed his teammates of the news today, citing that his story had come to an end.
"I am ready for the next chapter, and I think the Club is ready to regenerate and find a new path forward," he said.
"I never thought my journey would get this far or that I would be a part of anything like what I have been. But I am so thankful for everyone who has played a part."
Riewoldt said that instead of being sad his career was over, he would spend his energy being happy that it happened.
"It is so important to realise your own story, and while my career has been a long one, it started the same way as everyone that walks into the doors with hope and curiosity and excitement, and I have just been lucky that so many people have invested in me," he said.
"I will miss everything really, but most of all, it will be that I miss the battle and all that comes with playing for this Club.”
Riewoldt added that he was "lucky and proud" to have been a part of setting up the Club to connect with generations of Richmond people.
"37 years is a long time not to have success, so to have been a part of a group that helped change Richmond forever and possibly how the game is played on and off the field is something I am extremely proud of."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1405386/riewoldt-set-for-mcg-farewell
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Richmond CEO Brendon Gale described Riewoldt as a fierce competitor.
“Jack arrived from Tasmania as a natural footballer and with a brashness that had him seemingly destined for stardom,” he said.
“He played the game with tremendous spirit and passion and took the fans along for the ride. Jack always wanted the moment; he wanted the ball in his hands. Even early doors as we were developing, he accepted the responsibility that came with that.
“At that time, Jack was a person that gave us hope. We were still building on the field, but we had a gun forward, a Coleman Medallist... we had a star. He was Richmond, and he genuinely cared about the Club, its people and the fans, and the Tiger Army embraced him wholeheartedly.
“As Jack's football evolved, he made the players around him so much better, and unsurprisingly, the team blossomed. With his leadership and football intelligence, he was like another coach. Throw in his competitiveness and toughness, he was a key driver in transforming the fortunes of our football club.”
Gale added that Riewoldt’s legacy at the football club was profound.
“Since 1885 Richmond has been home to many of the greatest players to have played our game. However, Jack indisputably is right among them as a giant of our Club. He is in the upper echelon, in the cream.
“By weight of numbers, games played, goals kicked, awards won, and of course premierships- there is no doubt that he is one of the absolute best that has ever worn the yellow and black.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1405386/riewoldt-set-for-mcg-farewell
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Jack Riewoldt will speak to the media from approximately 12.30pm today.
WATCH the LIVE STREAM here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1405509/riewoldt-press-conference-live
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Thought I was ready for this but to think of the players now gone or going hits hard.
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Bugger, it really is the end of an era. I hope we can attract a KPF over the off season
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Wonder if Tigermonk could come back on and give his summary on JR's career
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When Richo retired Jack just took on what richo embodied so quickly.. the emotion for the club, the game, the jumper.. Who will be what jack was to richo ?
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Rance gone
Cotch about to
Dusty has another couple of years probably
Not sure I'm ready to say bye to Jack. Have loved watching him play and he's exactly my age to the day, same birthday and all. Watching him retire would just make me feel old and sad I think lol
I'm definitely not ready.
Very sad today watching his presser.
I know he's basically cooked but he was doing his best for the club. Not his fault the club didn't play other talls to back him up.
Probably my favourite player since Richo.
I'm quite devo. Going to be a very sad game on Saturday.
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Legend of the club.
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An all time great. I think the positive is that I can say to my grandkids one day - i was there when Jack, Cotch and Dusty held the premiership cup aloft.
What a privilege.
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if its his call then so be it, if its not then the club can go and get stuffed the way they rag dolled him this year.
His call
As always put the Club first
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One of the best speeches i have ever heard, if not the best.
An absolute champion.
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Champion he was never forget all those years he was the only tall in that system and sacrificed his game for the ream and 2017 he was unbelievable.His did the right thing today I hope we don't loose him as he has one of best footy brains in the system.he
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If Mini has any guts he should drop Riewoldt and cotchin …..,,. Just saying 🤓
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I'm disgusted that his highlights video is only 2 minutes long.
We need a video of every single goal, and at least 10 minutes of screamers, goals and JR brilliance.
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Another true champion of the club , loves the club and his team mates
One of the champion trinity of Tasmanian CHF Richmond has ever had, Richo, Royce and Jack Riewoldt
Should be proud of himself for what he has given as all genuine Richmond people will be.
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He won three flags and sang with The Killers but there’s another moment Riewoldt will cherish
Damien Ractliffe
The Age
August 15, 2023
He lived his premiership dream three times over and got to be a rock star for a night, but there is one moment aside from his three winning grand finals that Jack Riewoldt will cherish most.
Riewoldt will play his 347th and final match for Richmond on Saturday after announcing that he would join former captain Trent Cotchin in retirement.
The image of the star full-forward up on stage with The Killers, belting out Mr Brightside with lead singer Brandon Flowers, captures the elation of the drought-breaking 2017 flag.
But Riewoldt also recalls the pure joy of round 23, 2014, when the Tigers were on an eight-game winning streak chasing a finals spot after being booted out in an elimination final in 2013. Former captain Chris Newman was playing his 250th game against the top-of-the-table Swans in Sydney.
“I’ll never forget that day,” Riewoldt said on Tuesday. “I’ll never forget that little patch that [Swans defender] Ted Richards slipped on trying to catch ‘Dus’ [Dustin Martin] and ‘Dus’ kicked the sealer, and to win for someone like ‘Newy’ was really important for us and important for me.
“Outside of finals, that’s probably my favourite memory.”
Riewoldt was the last player to touch the football in that match, booting it into the sky as the siren went to signal a three-point win.
The Tigers lost the elimination final to Port Adelaide, and lost a third straight elimination final in 2015 to North Melbourne, before finishing outside the eight in 2016, with Richmond’s future under coach Damien Hardwick at a crossroads.
The club famously showed faith in Hardwick, who went on to lead the Tigers to three flags in four seasons with captain Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin as the pillars of the team’s success. Less well known is a meeting between Riewoldt and Cotchin at St Rose cafe in Essendon, which cemented a culture change at Richmond.
Riewoldt said he and Cotchin were discussing how they could provide second-year player Daniel Rioli with a premiership, thinking it would come after they had finished their careers.
“Whilst we spoke about Daniel playing in the next premiership and being a part of that next Richmond cup, we found ourselves smack bang in the middle of it,” Riewoldt said.
“I think of 2017, and we probably weren’t the most talented list out there but we had this superpower that we created through an ability to connect on a different level.
“We were an amazing defensive team that year, but we had this trust and belief in each other that we unlocked. Other people saw it as a strength and copied it. Ultimately, we were the only team that could do it in that time, it was unique to us, and I’m really proud of that.”
Cotchin and Riewoldt came into this season wanting to enjoy every last moment – besides their last game at Marvel Stadium, which Riewoldt joked should be burnt down given the Tigers have notched one draw and seven losses from their past eight matches there.
Riewoldt called Hardwick, who was shopping in Italy, on Monday night to thank him for the role he played in his career, and said he’d made a conscious effort to enjoy moments that were likely to be his last.
On Saturday, Riewoldt and Cotchin will run onto the field for the final time, but Riewoldt said the club is ready to begin a new era without them.
“I do really see similarities to 2016 and what we’ve done, it’s a really great time to refresh as a club,” he said.
“I’m intrigued about what that looks like.
“I know we’ve got some amazing talent in the room, talent we haven’t even seen at AFL level yet that I can’t wait to see, and we’ve got some great guys coming through that have to grab the leadership mantle.
“I’m looking forward to being on the other side of the fence and experiencing that journey with a different lens, and being proud to say I was a Richmond man, and I am a Richmond man.”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/he-won-three-flags-and-sang-with-the-killers-but-there-s-another-moment-riewoldt-will-cherish-20230815-p5dwq2.html
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Jack's speech to the playing group:
WATCH HERE: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1406179/-it-connected-generations-of-families-riewoldt
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Jack will be on AFL360 tonight (starts 7:30pm).
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Congratulations to Jack on a brilliant career. He is an absolute legend of this club and rightly deserves his place as a great. His selflessness, courage, skill and leadership brought this club enormous success. Thank-you Jack.
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Thanks Jack
Legend, champion of our Club who always championed for our Club
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What a legend. He had such a great well rounded game, strong in the air, agile at ground level and could setup goals as well as he could kick them. Don’t think he gets the credit he deserves outside of our footy club - was it his second Coleman where they didn’t even name him all Australian? I can’t remember another time the Coleman medalist was left out.
Anyway, farewell to another immortal of our club. Go on and enjoy your media career jack :bow :cheers
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What a legend. He had such a great well rounded game, strong in the air, agile at ground level and could setup goals as well as he could kick them. Don’t think he gets the credit he deserves outside of our footy club - was it his second Coleman where they didn’t even name him all Australian? I can’t remember another time the Coleman medalist was left out.
Anyway, farewell to another immortal of our club. Go on and enjoy your media career jack :bow :cheers
I think Jack will be heavily involved in the new Tasmanian team. Well he would be if they have a brain.
One of my favorite players and imo the state of our tall forward stocks says he has gone a year early.
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What a legend. He had such a great well rounded game, strong in the air, agile at ground level and could setup goals as well as he could kick them. Don’t think he gets the credit he deserves outside of our footy club - was it his second Coleman where they didn’t even name him all Australian? I can’t remember another time the Coleman medalist was left out.
Anyway, farewell to another immortal of our club. Go on and enjoy your media career jack :bow :cheers
They snubbed him for AA! It was insane! Also it was important for him to butt heads with Dimma. I think it was at a presser we were losing a lot and he said the game plan was poo because it was diet hawthorn with chip kicking and he was right! They should have included in the highlights reel him trying to get a Myki and evading cameras as well.
I love Jack so much and will miss him lighting it up. To kick those goals when for a large part of his career we were poo and made to clear the forward line for vickery speaks volumes of how good of a footballer he was.
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What a legend. He had such a great well rounded game, strong in the air, agile at ground level and could setup goals as well as he could kick them. Don’t think he gets the credit he deserves outside of our footy club - was it his second Coleman where they didn’t even name him all Australian? I can’t remember another time the Coleman medalist was left out.
Anyway, farewell to another immortal of our club. Go on and enjoy your media career jack :bow :cheers
They snubbed him for AA! It was insane! Also it was important for him to butt heads with Dimma. I think it was at a presser we were losing a lot and he said the game plan was poo because it was diet hawthorn with chip kicking and he was right! They should have included in the highlights reel him trying to get a Myki and evading cameras as well.
I love Jack so much and will miss him lighting it up. To kick those goals when for a large part of his career we were poo and made to clear the forward line for vickery speaks volumes of how good of a footballer he was.
Haha yeah that clip has been doing the rounds today. I think dimmas famous quote in his presser that week is along the lines of “we’ve found jack and removed his foot from his mouth and my foot from his ass” :snidegrin
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We break down Jack Riewoldt’s standing in Tasmanian footy
Jack Riewoldt will go down as one of Tasmania’s greatest footballers when his career draws to a close this weekend. We rank him against the best from this century. HAVE YOUR SAY.
Brayden May
The Mercury
August 16, 2023
OUR TOP-FIVE TASMANIAN AFL PLAYERS SINCE 2000
1. Matthew Richardson
2. Jack Riewoldt
3. Alastair Lynch
4. Grant Birchall
5. Jeremy Howe
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When the final siren sounds on Jack Riewoldt’s AFL career this weekend, it will read among the game’s greats.
Three premierships, three Coleman medals, three All-Australian selections, 347 games and just shy of 800 goals.
And with every great’s retirement comes the time for debate.
In Riewoldt’s case it’s where does he sit among Tasmania’s greatest AFL players.
Some classify his cousin Nick as the greatest player from the Apple Isle, others don’t consider him to be him in the argument considering he moved to Queensland at such a young age.
We’re leaving Nick out of our argument, focusing on the group since 2000.
What about when it comes to his former teammate and fellow Tigers legend Matthew Richardson?
Jack’s emergence at the Tigers, where he became the focal point in the forward 50, gave Richo new life when he moved up the ground to the wing – almost claiming the unlikeliest of Brownlow medals.
Richardson himself earned three All-Australian selections and kicked 800 goals as a 13-time leading goal kicker at the Tigers.
The now 48-year-old was inducted into the Australian Football Hall of Fame and it’s all but assured Riewoldt won’t be too far behind – likely to be inducted as soon as possible.
Burnie’s Alastair Lynch can’t be left out of the conversation either.
A three-time premiership player with Brisbane in the early 2000s, finishing as the club’s leading goalkicker each season.
His career totalled 306 games and 633 games – many of those coming in the 80s and 90s.
If we’re comparing Lynch and Riewoldt’s entire careers, we probably give the Tigers superstar the slight edge.
Given Riewoldt’s goalkicking prowess we probably forget he’s much smaller than his key forward counterparts of the modern game.
At 193cm, he’s developed a reputation as one of the most selfless and smartest players in the competition.
His mind has always been a step ahead of the opposition, often leaving fans stunned by his skill.
Then there’s the high flying marks that became part and parcel of Jack’s game.
Was the 2021 hanger going back with the flight against Adelaide his best? You could watch his highlights for hours.
One player who probably doesn’t get as much acknowledgement in Tassie’s greatest debate is Grant Birchall.
A four-time premiership player with Hawthorn before finishing his career with Brisbane, Birchall wasn’t the star of the show.
He was a smooth moving halfback with a left foot that made everything click for the Hawks.
On paper, Birchall’s team success outweighs that of Riewoldt.
But on a personal front are they comparable – it probably depends who you are as to who you would have in front.
Overall, Jack’s standing in Tasmanian football has him among the best.
But just where he ranks is a debate that will carry on not just in this off-season but for the next 50 years.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/we-break-down-jack-riewoldts-standing-in-tasmanian-footy/news-story/b17044c4f9cf8e38f74d32bbe5f9b7a5
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Jack Riewoldt’s last Tasmanian coach on AFL great’s early days
Ryan Rosendale
The Mercury
August 16, 2023
As the last man to coach Jack Riewoldt before he exploded onto the AFL scene, Tuesday’s retirement announcement of one of Tasmania’s greatest ever football exports brought back fond memories for Nick Davey.
Davey coached Riewoldt in his final two seasons at Clarence and got a first-hand look at a talented and confident teenager that would end up finishing his AFL career as one of the greatest key forwards of his generation.
“You sort of keep an eye on the kids you coached and yeah it’s been an amazing ride for him,” Davey said.
“He has probably finished his career as one of the best Tasmanians to ever play the game.”
A name synonymous with Clarence thanks to the exploits of his father Chris, Riewoldt debuted for the Roos in 2005 and went on to kick four goals in a losing grand final.
Davey was able to lead the Roos back to the decider the following season where they defeated Glenorchy to win the 2006 SFL premier league premiership in what became Riewoldt’s final game for the club before he was drafted by the Tigers with pick 13 just a month later.
“I think he first played (senior football) when he was 16 and back in those days it was pretty typical to have a more mature playing list, but he came in and played his first game as a 16 year-old and a year later he was in a premiership team,” Davey recalled.
“I remember the semi-final in 2006 out at KGV and he took a mark directly in front but 60-65 meters out and he unleashed a big torpedo that sailed through.
“It was amazing for a kid of that age to have the confidence to have a crack in such a big game. He was always pretty confident in his own ability but he was a great kid and never arrogant. Even now when we have reunions and things like that he is always doing his best to get there and catches up with all his mates from down here.”
While Riewoldt still speaks fondly of his time at Bellerive, Davey wasn’t sure if he could be convinced to wind back the clock and pull the boots on in some capacity at the club that gave him his start but, he agreed that the three-time Coleman medallist was “right up there” with the most talented players he has ever coached.
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Riewoldt playing for Clarence back in his debut season in 2005.
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Jack Riewoldt kicks a 65 metre goal after the third quarter siren in the 2006 second-semi final against Glenorchy. It’s a moment his former coach Nick Davey remembers fondly.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/jack-riewoldts-last-tasmanian-coach-on-afl-greats-early-days/news-story/49a2b9a22fac1e929beab648d427c858
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Jack Riewoldt retirement: Mark Robinson on Richmond’s legendary goalkicker
Jack Riewoldt will be long be remembered as a Richmond great. MARK ROBINSON charts the highs and lows of one of footy’s greatest goalkickers.
Mark Robinson
HeraldSun
August 16, 2023
That there’s a debate about who was the better Riewoldt — Jack or Nick — is testament to the staggering achievements of the younger, rascalish cousin.
Nick was a champion Saint, fiercely determined who seemingly played football in a businesslike manner, rarely smiling, a job more than a fun sporting pursuit.
Jack was a champion Tiger, also fiercely determined, but he played with a playful attitude, a player who understood and lapped up the essence of entertainment.
Nick played 336 games, took 2944 marks and kicked 718.455.
Jack has played 346 games, taken 1827 marks and kicked 786.477.
That’s 1000 extra marks for Nick and roughly 70 more goals for Jack.
They were different players. Nick galloped around the ground like a thoroughbred, while Jack patrolled the 30m stretch in front of the goalsquare.
Both were courageous in the air, scarily so, and Jack once playfully asked whose mark was better — Nick’s mark running with the flight against the Swans at the SCG or his running mark against Adelaide on the Gold Coast.
Sorry, Jack, but Nick wins that one.
Arguably, Nick was the better footballer, but Jack had the better career.
Three flags does that to a CV.
Hundreds of stories will be told about Jack — on and off the field — because he was a great player and a people’s footballer. He was relatable. He had flaws early in his career, a selfishness which comes with being a great talent, but those flaws made him more the regular guy.
Who else would jump on stage and belt out Mr Brightside, which people believe was a spur of the moment decision but in fact was planned in the days before the game. He was always an entertainer.
His Richmond story is an integral part of the mighty triumvirate of Hardwick, Cotchin and Riewoldt.
They leave a legacy about what is possible when a team finds selflessness in an environment where one can be seduced by selfishness.
Not sure Jack agreed with the coach when, in 2011, he said “Jack has to kick less goals for us to get better, if that makes any sense,”
It didn’t at the time, and it was a work in progress for the team and inside Jack’s head, for several seasons.
Continued failure on elimination final weekend frustrated him. He wasn’t happy at Richmond and, at the end of 2016, he contemplated seeking a trade.
At that time, Jordan Lewis was booted from Hawthorn, and for a couple weeks there, the two of them would catch up pre-show in the kitchen at Fox Footy and discuss the pros and cons on leaving the Tigers.
Lewis listened more than gave advice.
Jack stayed a Tiger and, led by Hardwick and Cotchin, the Tigers juggernaut was up and running.
Their success on the field was driven by three words off it — hardship, hero and highlight.
Jack at his press conference called it Richmond’s “super power”.
In 2017, every player and coach would stand in front of the group and pour out their deepest secrets. Players, some in tears, would speak of family heartbreak and/or inspiration. Jack spoke about Nick. He was his hero.
The emotional investment underpinned the premiership success.
Jack grew as a person and player. And he had to.
He was buffoon at times. He once publicly questioned the Tigers game plan, which annoyed the coach, and who could ever forget his attempted great escape from the media when he jumped the Punt Rd fence, hid behind cars and scrambled to buy a Myki ticket?
Then there was the fight he had with teammate Alex Rance at a Mad Monday drink at the Cricketers Arm in Richmond. The two big dogs needled each other to the point where punches were thrown. “Yeah, he clocked me, not hard, but he clocked me,’’ Rance said later. “I deserved it.’’
The pair would forge a great friendship and some Tigers people say that if those two didn’t grow up and stop being the halfwits they were, the 2017 premiership might not have been won.
Jack matured to be a wonderful statesman for the Tigers and for the game.
His honesty on AFL360 won people over.
For a superstar player, he was grounded. For sure, he had a very healthy ego, but no one said more hellos to the people at Fox Footy when he arrived than Jack. His enthusiasm to engage lit up the conversation.
He understood the importance of the media.
On the night of the 2018 preliminary final, which the Tigers spectacularly lost to the Magpies, Jack allowed me to drive to the game with him and his wife Carly. It was to be a mindset piece to run the following weekend on grand final day about how he starts to prepare himself spiritually and emotionally for a cutthroat final.
When the car hit the top of Punt Rd, Jack played one his favourite songs, Paul Kelly’s Leaps and Bounds.
As hundreds of Tigers fans streamed towards the ground on the footpath, Jack and Carly were belting out the song inside the car. “I’m high on the hill, looking over the bridge to the MCG. And way up on high, the clock on the silo, says eleven degrees.’’
That high was soon lost to the devastation of defeat. The piece never saw the light of the day.
Jack leaves the game a much-loved and respected figure. People rang talkback radio on Tuesday with more stories about him off-field than on it and that says plenty about the person he is.
He was a player who eventually embraced the team-first mantra. He will always be remembered as the tall amid the smalls — and Jacob Townsend — who formed Richmond’s forward line in 2017.
He was crafty and sharing of the ball, could spring sharply to take hangers and when the moons aligned was a beautiful kick. He held the ball with the right hand high and the left hand low and cradling.
His run up was effortless.
But he was always Jumping Jack, the ultimate headliner.
And, from now, he’ll always be a Richmond legend.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/jack-riewoldt-retirement-mark-robinson-on-richmonds-legendary-goalkicker/news-story/cca8742b95caf87020c031cca3283ca1
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Jack on AFL360 last night:
Click on pic/link to watch:
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl-360/riewoldt-explains-retirement-decision!864469
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‘I’ve known’: Riewoldt’s admission on AFL retirement call as ‘new era’ looms for Tigers
Fox Footy
August 16th, 2023
Retiring Richmond star Jack Riewoldt has revealed he knew heading into 2023 it would “more than likely” be his last AFL season.
After much speculation about his future, Riewoldt announced on Tuesday he would play his 347th and final AFL game for the Tigers, drawing a close to a storeyed career.
The three-time Coleman medallist told AFL 360 he could’ve played on in 2024, but decided calling it quits this season was the right option.
“To be honest, it‘s probably been from the start of the season that I’ve known that this would more than likely be my last year,” he said.
“Possibly I could’ve played on, but to what sort of detriment to myself?
“I don’t want to get halfway through a season next year and be like, ‘Ah, I’m sick of this.’ I really do believe that the club now is in its next era.”
Riewoldt’s era will conclude with three premierships, with the breakthrough 2017 flag kickstarting a dynasty that will be forever remembered by the yellow and black army.
His retirement will coincide with Trent Cotchin, with the former captain also finishing up on Saturday against North Melbourne.
It forms part of a changing of the guard that Riewoldt was acutely aware of on Tuesday night.
“You think of probably the five most important people at the football club over the last six years have been probably Brendon Gale, myself, Trent, Dustin and Peggy. There’s only two of them still there now,” he said.
“Now is this time for this next generation of players that have sat under great leadership, arguably one of the greatest captains to have ever captained in the AFL in Trent Cotchin and a couple of offsiders in myself and Rancey who tried to help him along the way and obviously the leadership of Peggy and Brendan.
“Now they get the opportunity to transform it into the next era of Richmond, the next generation of Richmond.
“They’ll take things from what we’ve taught them and learnings of what we’ve taught them but they get to rediscover and rebrand themselves and that’ll happen under a new character, whether that’s Andrew McQualter or someone else who’s going through the process at the moment.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-2023-jack-riewoldt-retirement-decision-to-play-on-interview-richmond-great-afl-360-interview/news-story/347ae8f4fb512961acddbe9dd8cc229e
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Totally love how Jack refers to the club as, "The Mighty Richmond Football Club"
His passion for the club is second to none
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What a magnificent individual :bow
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Jack, as he spoke about after the game, is as much a Tiger supporter as he is/was a Tiger player :clapping. He understood via the passion he showed what it meant to be one of us in the stands.
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https://twitter.com/CherylCritchley/status/1692798174832824594
Thanks Jack for everything you've done for the RFC and for us supporters. Enjoy your retirement. Legend! :clapping :thumbsup :bow
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Thank you Jack Riewoldt.
An immortal Richmond person.
Thank you for everything you did for us.
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Such a bitter sweet day.
I was so emotional.
Remember being there the day he kicked 10 vs WCE and thinking we had our next Richo - someone to draw a crowd for a crap team.
Had no idea then we were close to a dynasty obviously and what a player he would be.
Thanks for everything mate.
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"Love you, brother."
A sneak peek into the 'Jack's Final Siren' documentary, which will air in one week.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1693921970281140483
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There was a game against St Kilda in 2010 , we lost the game by about 40 and Jack didn’t have his kicking boots on that night - but I remember him doing things that left me mesmerised - that we had a truely elite player in our midst. He then exploded over the next month or so .
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A final and twelveth Michael Roach (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f3c5.svg) for Jack to collect on his retirement :clapping.
10:Riewoldt
11:Riewoldt
12:Riewoldt
13:Riewoldt
14:Riewoldt
15:Riewoldt
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17:Riewoldt
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19:Lynch
20:Riewoldt
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22:Lynch
23:Riewoldt
https://twitter.com/_tigertime/status/1695746093576069436
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"Love you, brother."
A sneak peek into the 'Jack's Final Siren' documentary, which will air in one week.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1693921970281140483
Bump.
On tonight after AFL360.
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Jack's last touch in his farewell game where he was tackled heavily by Norf's Xerri, ended up giving Jack a broken rib as well as hurting his AC joint.
Source: Whateley on AFL360.
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"Love you, brother."
A sneak peek into the 'Jack's Final Siren' documentary, which will air in one week.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1693921970281140483
Bump.
On tonight after AFL360.
Terrific special tribute :clapping, but it also reminded us how much we are going to miss Jack :'(.
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"Love you, brother."
A sneak peek into the 'Jack's Final Siren' documentary, which will air in one week.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1693921970281140483
Bump.
On tonight after AFL360.
Terrific special tribute :clapping, but it also reminded us how much we are going to miss Jack :'(.
Missed it :'(
And so far it hasn't been repeated on Fox Footy >:(
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"Love you, brother."
A sneak peek into the 'Jack's Final Siren' documentary, which will air in one week.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1693921970281140483
Bump.
On tonight after AFL360.
Terrific special tribute :clapping, but it also reminded us how much we are going to miss Jack :'(.
Missed it :'(
And so far it hasn't been repeated on Fox Footy >:(
Here's the Kayo link, WP. Not sure if it's on Fox Footy as well?
MIC'D UP: JACK RIEWOLDT
In his last game before retiring, Jack Riewoldt is Mic'd Up as he says farewell to the AFL and the Tigers faithful.
https://kayosports.com.au/shows/show-mic-d-up!135206
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Jack's last touch in his farewell game where he was tackled heavily by Norf's Xerri, ended up giving Jack a broken rib as well as hurting his AC joint.
Source: Whateley on AFL360.
"It serves me right!" (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f605.svg)
Jack Riewoldt cheekily reflects on the brutal final play in his AFL career.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1696824531027906867
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Here's the Kayo link, WP. Not sure if it's on Fox Footy as well?
MIC'D UP: JACK RIEWOLDT
In his last game before retiring, Jack Riewoldt is Mic'd Up as he says farewell to the AFL and the Tigers faithful.
https://kayosports.com.au/shows/show-mic-d-up!135206
Thanks
Don't subscribe to Kayo
But for now it looks on Fox Footy it was shown last night and over the next 3 days at least it isn't being replayed
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TOM MORRIS: Is a Luke Hodge-esque un-retirement from Jack Riewoldt exactly what Melbourne needs?
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/19/tom-morris-is-a-luke-hodge-esque-un-retirement-from-jack-riewoldt-exactly-what-melbourne-needs/
:facepalm
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Keeping ‘Dusty’, fearing ‘Dimma’, and how Riewoldt got even with his biggest critic
27/10/2023
Source: theage
As he prepares to launch his memoir, Richmond great Jack Riewoldt reflects on his time at Punt Road, a magical journey featuring premierships, drama, Dustin Martin and Ben Cousins.
Retired Richmond superstar Jack Riewoldt has opened up on the role he and his teammates played in convincing Dustin Martin to ignore a $10 million overture from North Melbourne and commit his future to Punt Road.
Riewoldt said he and teammates including Shaun Grigg played a persuasive role in convincing Martin to stay. Riewoldt started a series of phone calls between Martin’s manager Ralph Carr and celebrity agent Max Markson assessing the financial benefits and value of Martin in a Richmond guernsey compared with the Kangaroos. Martin has never explained why he stayed.
“I wouldn’t say it was pivotal or anything like that, but it made people see the commercial value in him, but the true value lay in his relationships and who he is as a person. We were willing to do everything we could to keep him.”
Ben Cousins
“It was a bizarre set of circumstances . The jungle drums were beating that he was either going to go to St Kilda and Richmond. Then we were told no. Then the senior players pushed fairly hard to say yes, and, all of a sudden, he was at the football club.
Damien Hardwick
“I didn’t really know much about Terry or him coaching prior to getting to Richmond, but he was a really great - I want to say salesman, but I don’t want to say salesman. He actually made you believe in the story, and believe in the way we were going to do things. Which is why when it worked, it really worked for us.”
https://headtopics.com/au/keeping-dusty-fearing-dimma-and-how-riewoldt-got-even-47777866
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Full articles:
Keeping ‘Dusty’, fearing ‘Dimma’, and how Riewoldt got even with his biggest critic
Jon Pierik
The Age
October 28, 2023
Retired Richmond superstar Jack Riewoldt has opened up on the role he and his teammates played in convincing Dustin Martin to ignore a $10 million overture from North Melbourne and commit his future to Punt Road.
In an expansive interview with this masthead only weeks after Riewoldt ended his illustrious 347-game AFL career before his next career step was revealed − a job with the Tasmanian AFL expansion club − Riewoldt has also explained the motivation behind his decision to remain a one-club player and provided an insight into how recovering drug addict Ben Cousins was welcomed into the Tiger fold.
Riewoldt and Martin are two of the central figures in Richmond’s modern premiership era, a period that delivered three flags in four seasons including the club’s drought-breaking 2017 flag.
Martin committed his long-time future to Richmond on the eve of that season’s finals series. North Melbourne had offered him a whopping $10 million.
Riewoldt said he and teammates including Shaun Grigg played a persuasive role in convincing Martin to stay. Riewoldt started a series of phone calls between Martin’s manager Ralph Carr and celebrity agent Max Markson assessing the financial benefits and value of Martin in a Richmond guernsey compared with the Kangaroos. Martin has never explained why he stayed.
“Myself and Shaun Grigg sat down, and we were like ‘I could only imagine the amount of money Dusty had put in front of him, and how life changing that would have been’,” Riewoldt recalled.
“But there are also a whole host of other things that we knew he [Martin] valued as well – the relationship side of things.
“I wouldn’t say it [our involvement] was pivotal or anything like that, but it made people see the commercial value in him, but the true value lay in his relationships and who he is as a person. We were willing to do everything we could to keep him.”
Riewoldt had West Coast champion and 2005 Brownlow medallist Cousins as a Richmond teammate for the 2009 and 2010 seasons.
But the recovering drug addict was only recruited by the Tigers, then coached by Terry Wallace, with the support of the players.
“From a personal point of view, from the guys that played with him, to have had a little bit of an impact to help get his life back on track, has been fulfilling. So much so that when we go to Perth, we see him all the time with his family,” Riewoldt said.
“It was a bizarre set of circumstances [when Richmond were weighing up bringing him in]. The jungle drums were beating that he was either going to go to St Kilda or Richmond. Then we were told no. Then the senior players pushed fairly hard to say yes, and, all of a sudden, he was at the football club.
“We lived a bit of a circus, which was what followed him, for a couple of years there, but his value and investing in the group was amazing, especially for the younger players.”
Riewoldt left the AFL arena in round 22, completing a full circle from when he was drafted by Richmond with pick No.13 in the 2006 national draft as an excitable, talented but raw young lad who left his beloved Hobart to begin a new life in Melbourne.
It’s been some ride, Riewoldt calling it quits as the second-most capped Tiger, with 347 games to his name along with three flags, his place in Punt Rd forever etched in history. Riewoldt is about to release his memoir, The Bright Side. He said the book had given him a chance to review his life through a new prism.
Young cub
Riewoldt arrived at Punt Road during the Terry Wallace era (2005-09). The facilities were poor – among other issues, wheelie bins were used as ice baths, there was outdated audio equipment, and the walls needed a paint – while the training oval flooded in one pocket under heavy rain, and could not be used in summer because of cricket.
“You become a product of your environment really, when you walk into an AFL club for the first time, you don’t know what you don’t know. When you see the facilities, you are happy to be there and think this is what it must be like. When you start to hear stories about other clubs and new facilities, doing certain things, coaches, it then starts to dawn on you other things that maybe we are behind the eight-ball a little bit, which is probably where we were for that first period of time. Then we moved into a new facility around 2011. That was probably a catalyst of change,” he said.
Under Wallace, the Tigers conjured game plans to beat more fancied opponents but, according to Riewoldt, struggled to generate their own reliable style, prompting Riewoldt to wonder how Wallace lasted as long as he did.
“We adjusted a lot to the opposition, which was one of Terry’s great strengths, the ability to analyse and then try and effect the way to beat sides. But when you look at the way the game is coached these days, clubs have systems, and they back their systems in,” he said.
“I didn’t really know much about Terry or him coaching prior to getting to Richmond, but he was a really great – I want to say [he was a] salesman, but I don’t want to say salesman. He actually made you believe in the story, and believe in the way we were going to do things. Which is why when it worked, it really worked for us.”
Wallace did not wish to comment when approached by this masthead.
‘Fearing’ Hardwick
Damien Hardwick was appointed Richmond coach ahead of the 2010 AFL season.
Riewoldt admits the change of coach left him with a sense of dread.
A strong pre-season with players completing a variety of on-and-off field tasks at Wye River set the scene for what was to come.
“I think the first time I found out that ‘Dimma’ was going to coach me, I sort of felt there was an element of fear, in the structure of the group, that we were going to have this hardened thug that was going to come and coach us,” Riewoldt recalled.
“Change brings on a whole range of emotions. Some people embrace it, some people look at it and fear change. I was probably in the fearing mould of that. It was good to change it up.”
Brutal feedback
The Tigers turned to cultural change agent Gerard Murphy in 2014 to help players provide honest and open 360-degree feedback to each other - and staff - but Riewoldt was no fan.
“It’s a great example of how it’s not a one-size fits all in the AFL environment. You look at the way players are treated, and also list demographics, what’s the best thing for that group at the time. For us, unfortunately, [Murphy’s program] wasn’t the best for us at that time,” Riewoldt said.
“It didn’t end well for us, but how quickly the narrative shifted when we had a different thinking process brought in, one that was harnessed by our group really quickly. We reaped the rewards pretty quickly after getting that right. That’s not to say [Murphy’s program] isn’t the right model for other people going forward.”
The players’ feedback to each other varied, from the positives to Riewoldt even being told to stop wearing old Nike gear, and to use the new BLK apparel like his teammates.
“It can be unrelenting, but it can also be quite nitpicky for some things,” Riewoldt said. “People look to fill silence with things. It’s not my position to tell other people how to live their lives because I have an ideal in my head, but there are things that happen in people’s lives that we have no understanding of, or have no knowledge of, and we don’t how that could trigger, or why people do things a certain way. That’s why the next model we went down was about that information sharing, so we got to know each other a little bit better.”
The process also involved staff receiving blunt feedback, and one hard-working and helpful employee left in tears.
“That was probably the catalyst for us to say: ‘Is this really the best thing for us going forward, and do we really feel good about ourselves doing it?’ The answer was no to both of those questions,” Riewoldt said.
Murphy had been praised for the work he did in fortifying Geelong’s leadership group before the 2007 premiership. Now working with Hardwick at Gold Coast, Murphy did not wish to comment when told of Riewoldt’s assessment.
Contract capers
With Riewoldt off contract in 2013, and with a new agent, Liam Pickering, Fremantle offered Riewoldt a deal of almost $1 million a season. The Brisbane Lions also came knocking. The Lions returned in 2016, along with Essendon, Riewoldt taking a call from then Bombers coach John Worsfold while he was shopping at Myer at Southland.
But Riewoldt said loyalty was always a driving force.
“People always want to be loved and be wanted as well. There is that aspect of it as well, but in my internal fabric, I really value loyalty. It would have been near-on impossible for me to leave, and then go and face Richmond again,” Riewoldt said.
“I think the only way it could have happened was if I was 27 in five years time and a Tasmanian team came in and that was a realistic chance.
“But I am not in that position, so I don’t have to make that decision, thankfully.”
Prank calls
Carlton great turned expert commentator Mark Maclure once labelled Riewoldt a prima donna, prompting an angry Riewoldt to source Maclure’s number and have friends prank him through private-number calls. Watching Maclure on a live Fox Footy broadcast, and knowing his mobile phone was on the table, Riewoldt even called Maclure through a private number.
“Sometimes it’s water off a duck’s back, sometimes there is a chance to get even. I got even, I probably got ahead, to be honest,” Riewoldt said.
“We used to prank call him when he was on air, me, Brett Deledio and Shaun Grigg. We would sit around and have dinner, and he would be on Friday night footy. We would just sit there pranking him all night. You could see him touching his phone, then turning it on silent.
“I have spoken with ‘Sellers’ about that. He finds it quite funny, but I probably wouldn’t do it again.”
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Hardwick’s departure
Hardwick quit as coach after the Tigers lost their annual Dreamtime at the G game against Essendon in 2023. Hardwick delivered a withering spray, unusual for him, but Riewoldt sensed the three-time premiership coach wasn’t himself during the pre-season camp in Apollo Bay, when a results-driven, rather than process-driven approach was used. (Hardwick had long used tales of climbing mountains to inspire his players.)
“In hindsight it was probably a red flag, but it certainly heightened your attention,” Riewoldt said. “It’s not to say it was a catalyst for anything, but when you are so used to something, when there is difference and change, you go: ‘That’s interesting.’
“Even after the Gold Coast game [the Tigers lost to the Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium], there was a sense of vulnerability where he spoke about not knowing the answers. That’s not a cry for help, but it was a really honest, vulnerable conversation for a senior coach to admit that. It was a bit of a roller-coaster, and ultimately that’s probably why Dimma said, ‘That’s it for me at Richmond.’ He saw the best version of Richmond going forward not involving him.”
Any interest in coaching?
“No – it’s a fickle, fickle job,” Riewoldt said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/keeping-dusty-fearing-dimma-and-how-riewoldt-got-even-with-his-biggest-critic-20231023-p5ee83.html
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The Bright Side: Jack Riewoldt opens up on Richmond’s difficult 2016 – on and off the field
Pile ons. Personal attacks. There were even tears from staff – it’s clear Richmond’s struggles in 2016 weren’t confined to the field. Jack Riewoldt tells the story of the dark times at Punt Road.
Jack Riewoldt
HeraldSun
28 October 2023
In 2016 things went incredibly poorly, and incredibly fast. For the third year in a row we staggered through the early rounds. We were 1–6 after round seven, then we beat the Swans by a point at the MCG thanks to Sam Lloyd kicking a goal after the siren. We clawed our way back to 6–7 then fell away badly from there.
Nothing went right. Bachar Houli missed months of football through injury. Dylan Grimes was still struggling with his recurrent hamstring problems. Brett Deledio, who had been Mr Durable up until then, played only eleven games for the season. Our depth was tested and it didn’t hold up. Daniel Rioli, who had turned nineteen during the early weeks of the season, should have been eased into AFL footy by playing no more than a handful of games. Instead, he was called upon most weeks. Injuries are a legitimate explanation for a faltering team, but cited by one of its players, they never sound like anything more than an excuse.
Our struggles weren’t confined to the field either. Another developing problem was our leadership culture program, which was run by Gerard Murphy, who’d arrived at the club following the 2014 season. He introduced us to the type of feedback sessions that he’d used at Geelong to great effect. One person sat out the front of the group and everyone was invited to give them feedback on things they should ‘stop doing’, ‘start doing’ and ‘keep doing’.
Gerard had seen the exercise – one of a suite of offerings used by the group known as Leading Teams – work wonders. Gary Ablett Jr received an infamous dressing-down in 2006 when senior Cats savaged his work ethic. Apparently shaken by the serve, he went on to win three consecutive AFLPA MVP awards and two Brownlow Medals.
While the method is still used at several clubs, many others have stridently rejected it as giving players licence to bully and degrade. Whatever, it was a complete failure at Richmond.
The sessions opened the door to a kind of mob mentality. As humans, we’re programmed to go to negativity in difficult moments, and at Richmond at this time, it led to an outsized emphasis on what people needed to stop doing. Once a fortnight or so, a player would have to enter the auditorium, knowing that his teammates had been divided into groups to discuss and critique him.
It was my turn midway through 2016. I entered the room alone and sat on a stool in front of forty-three teammates, who’d gathered in private to list my shortcomings, as well as behaviours for me to add, keep or delete. They came up with words to describe me, and a seemingly never-ending list of feedback nuggets.
Stop speaking over others. Stop feeling the need to be the matchwinner, instead of just playing your role. Start critiquing your own game. Start finding solutions instead of pointing out problems. Start condensing your comments in meetings. ‘What you have to say is really important,’ said Alex Rance. ‘The first ten seconds of it, anyway. But then it loses impact the more the message goes on.’
Even though it was largely silent in the room, it felt noisy, because my mind was racing. They said I was trying too hard to be an individual – wearing the older Nike-branded gear to training, rather than the newer BLK apparel.
They wanted me to be more respectful in dealings with all people – and to watch my body language on the field. They said they wanted ‘consistency’, but I wasn’t sure what that meant, so I asked them, and Dylan Grimes answered. ‘We feel like one week in our personal relationship with you we love you and we’ll go to war with you,’ he said, ‘and the next week something will happen and it feels like we’re a piece of s**t to you. It’s a bit of a rollercoaster.’
There were positive pointers, too. Keep asking questions and challenging the group. Keep educating forwards and backs by showing them your tricks. Keep showing interest and care for your teammates.
‘You’re really relatable now,’ said Rance. ‘Everyone loves spending time with you, and you show a lot of genuine care and a better connection.’
Steven Morris showed me some love: ‘Playing against you as the opposition in training, it just feels like you’re leading this increase in camaraderie in the forward-line group really, really well.’
Shane Edwards did, too: ‘More than half the time you’re the perfect leader,’ he said. ‘It won’t take long or much tinkering for you to be the most influential player here.’
We had so many kind and authentic people in my time at Richmond, but that feedback forum had a way of changing everyone. I can freely admit those sessions brought out the very worst in me. I dished out some terrible feedback, and I doubt any of it helped anyone. If anything, it tore holes in the fabric of the team psyche. I was senior enough to cope with the criticism, but young fringe players just trying to make their way? Such attacks must have been devastating.
We had a young key forward named Liam McBean, who was struggling at the time. Liam was told that he was weak over the ball – just weak in general. I hate to imagine how that must have felt to him alone up the front. Liam was delisted at the end of the 2016 season, having played just five AFL games. I look back now and it’s no wonder he didn’t succeed. He had no chance in an environment like that. Those sessions weren’t about constructive feedback. They were a pile-on.
AFL clubs spend so much time thinking they can copy what’s been done at other clubs. I’m sure that’s what happened when we hired Gerard. His appointment as our leadership consultant was sold to us as a massive coup: the guru who had turned the Cats around was going to do the same thing for us.
Everyone became so infatuated with the idea that one man had the secret sauce that would automatically make us better leaders and better players, and it was rubbish. It back-fired spectacularly, and even spread into the rest of the club.
Instead of just players, our player development manager, Bronwyn Doig, a bubbly and enthusiastic young staff member, was put up in front of the group, too. Bron was the person who nurtured draftees and rookies when they first arrived at Punt Road, helping them acclimate and assimilate.
She was the person who helped you find lodging and bedding and transport. The person who made sure we all had adequate literacy and numeracy – that we knew how to pay our bills and had a plan for our careers (and our lives) after football.
Bron helped us develop and grow up as professionals and people. She rode with us in the back of the ambulance when we broke a leg or punctured a lung, and called our parents when things went wrong.
Bron felt she had to buy into the new cultural program, and was encouraged to sit up the front one day and receive her own barrage of ‘add-keep-delete’ feedback, framed as an opportunity for her to enhance her relationship with the list.
The criticism came – a laundry list of faults and deficiencies and limitations – and she listened and watched as the boys read from their critique sheets. Blindsided, gobsmacked and dumbfounded, Bron finally walked out. She left the club in tears that day – not over the judgemental things that had been said to her, but for not having had the courage to speak up and voice her concerns about the program.
Given all we now know about mental health, it’s a wonder the dangers of the blunt feedback approach weren’t raised immediately.
I wasn’t in the leadership group at that stage, but I’d had enough. I went to see Brendon Gale. ‘This isn’t working,’ I said. ‘This can’t go on.’
The playing group was told in July that Gerard was departing. He still works in this space. But the work he did with us was never the right fit for our group.
In a way, how poorly it worked almost became his parting gift. Richmond went through such turmoil that season that perhaps we worked out what we didn’t want to be as a club. Perhaps the first seeds of the fun, friendship and success that were yet to come were sown in those dark times.
Another long off-season began, and legendary Richmond ruckman Neville Crowe died. Neville was famous not only for his work on the field in the 1960s; he later became Richmond president and led the Save Our Skins campaign that rescued the club in 1990.
His death thickened the pall that hung over Tigerland, a sense of doom magnified by the impending results of the Ernst & Young review of the football department.
Handed down on September 12, the key outcome was that Dimma kept his job, which was a massive relief, but several of his assistants were let go.
I asked my manager, Liam Pickering, what my options were, and he told me exactly what he was hearing: I was being thrown up as a trade option. I asked Richmond list manager, Blair Hartley, about it, and he said I wasn’t.
That same game of ducks and drakes plays out every year at every club, and it does make for a strange working life, with an odd kind of conditional trust. Regardless, the media had dubbed me as potential ‘trade bait’, and that has its own effect – plenty of clubs made inquiries based solely on the perception that I was gettable.
The Brisbane Lions came hard again. And the Bombers were unequivocal about their interest. One day, I was in the bedding section of Myer at Southland when my phone rang, and Essendon coach John Worsfold was on the other end. There I was, lying back on a nice new mattress, chatting to the coach of an arch-rival.
Brendon Goddard called later to give me a feeling for what was happening at the Bombers, doing his level best to see me swap a yellow sash for a red one.
Throughout it all I felt dirty – There’s just no way; I couldn’t, could I? – almost as if I were cheating. It was such a strange and disorientating period, and yet at the same time, I was by now mature enough to manage myself and have those grown-up conversations.
Over time, when enough deals have been put `to you, you learn how to talk about money, and identify your self-worth, and stand by your value without sounding like a w***er. You understand the salary cap, and how everybody in the side needs to be paid fairly. I knew when other players were coming off contract, and that what I asked for would impact what they got. I was never interested in any deal that would see my teammates ripped off.
I never came close to leaving Richmond. I couldn’t. It was ingrained in me to be loyal. Instead, I sat down with Trent Cotchin, who himself had had a big heart-to-heart chat with Dimma after Neville Crowe’s funeral, and we made the decision that we needed to stick by the club.
We had coffee at St Rose café in Essendon, and spoke about what we wanted our legacy to be. We wanted to leave the club in a better place than we found it, and that meant we needed to try and finish the job we’d started. Were we hopeful that we could compete for a premiership in the coming years? I don’t think so. We were just hoping we wouldn’t be s**t. We were hoping the sun would come up the next day.
At the core of our conversation was an acceptance that Trent and I were most likely never going to win a premiership. Given that, we needed to invest our time in creating a great club, so that the likes of Daniel Rioli could taste the success that we would never enjoy.
This is an edited extract from Jack Riewoldt ‘The Bright Side’. ‘The Bright Side’ is out on November 1 through Simon & Schuster, RRP $49.99. You can meet him at a book signing event at 1pm, November 1 at The Avenue Bookstore, 91 Swan St, Richmond.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-bright-side-jack-riewoldt-opens-up-on-richmonds-difficult-2016-on-and-off-the-field/news-story/7ba328088a5643c95b647751becfc7a5
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https://www.instagram.com/stories/riewoldtjack08/3223823393418230532/
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Holy crap. Who would have thought a training exercise from leading teams would spectacularly blow up and divide the players? And the beanstalk! I was pining for a jack and the bean stalk two tower duo and Geez no wonder it went down the toilet.
Great passage from the book and also poor Bronwyn! I don’t know anything about the support staff at the club, does anyone on this forum have any personal interaction with her? Is she doing ok now?
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Holy crap. Who would have thought a training exercise from leading teams would spectacularly blow up and divide the players? And the beanstalk! I was pining for a jack and the bean stalk two tower duo and Geez no wonder it went down the toilet.
Great passage from the book and also poor Bronwyn! I don’t know anything about the support staff at the club, does anyone on this forum have any personal interaction with her? Is she doing ok now?
Sheesh it's savage isn't it.
Sounds like this woman was basically playing mother to them all. Making sure they pay their phone bills, have somewhere to sleep, a way to get to training, riding in the ambo and calling their folks. Basically cupping their balls for them.
Poor lady. Whatever was going wrong was clearly not her doing.
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Beanie.... >:(
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HOW JACK RIEWOLDT CONVINCED COUSIN NICK TO UNRETIRE AND JOIN RICHMOND ON HIS WEDDING DAY
Lachlan Geleit
SEN
1 November 2023
Jack Riewoldt has brought to light a moment in time when he thought he and his cousin Nick were set to link up at Richmond.
The recently retired forward released his autobiography The Bright Side yesterday with the book shining the light on several little-known moments across his life and 17-year AFL career.
Jack’s cousin, Nick, played the last of his 336 games for St Kilda in August of 2017, but the former Tiger got him to consider an AFL return just a few months later.
While at his wedding in November of 2017, Jack says he and then Richmond teammate Alex Rance made an early hours of the morning bid for Nick to come out of retirement and sign for the Tigers as a rookie.
After what he described as having a few too many beverages, Jack says he and Rance even got Nick to sign on unofficially, while also getting him to call Richmond list manager Blair Hartley to express his interest in coming to the club.
“The Nick one was the night of my wedding,” Riewoldt told SEN Whateley.
“There was myself, Alex Rance, Nick, and there might have been someone else there as well.
“But we rang Blair Hartley, our list manager at about 2:00 AM I think.
“It was after we'd probably all had a few too many beverages and we got Nick to sign on a napkin.
“Then (we got Nick to) verbalize it over voicemail to Blair Hartley that he'd be quite happy to come and play for the Tigers in 2018 as a rookie.”
Nick has spoken on the moment before and admitted that he was genuinely considering his cousin’s pitch at the time, but ultimately, he decided to remain retired.
Jack says there are plenty of those funny stories littered throughout his new book and he’s excited for fans to learn some of the hidden truths behind his life and career.
“They are the funny sort of stories and the little things that you pick up over the over your journey, that are great to tell people,” Riewoldt said.
“They don't just get hidden away in your own little mind somewhere.
“They actually get to see the light of day and people can enjoy them as much as I did.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/01/how-jack-riewoldt-convinced-cousin-nick-to-unretire-and-join-richmond-on-his/
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Sign him as a rookie now!
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Great passage from the book and also poor Bronwyn! I don’t know anything about the support staff at the club, does anyone on this forum have any personal interaction with her? Is she doing ok now?
I have met her a few years back
I am not sure but I don't think she is at the Club any longer. She may have been one of the ones they had to let go when the AFL slashed the Footy Dept Soft Cap. there were alot of people (support staff is a great term) that lost their jobs thanks to what HQ did around the soft cap.
Sheesh it's savage isn't it.
Sounds like this woman was basically playing mother to them all. Making sure they pay their phone bills, have somewhere to sleep, a way to get to training, riding in the ambo and calling their folks. Basically cupping their balls for them.
Yep she was basically like a "den mother" to all the players especially the newbies
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Jack on Ch 10's The Project:
(https://10play.com.au/ip/vs/OTFP/2d38789919526b718e4f6026f8302323bcce554a15f11881e0c7943fce4d28c4/Jack%20Riewoldt%20On%20Why%20Richmond's%20Premiership%20Win%20Was%20The%20Sweetest%20Victory-thumbnail.jpeg?image-profile=index_thumb) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBpQBNqbwwA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBpQBNqbwwA
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Leading goalkickers: Every Jack Riewoldt goal in 2023
Watch every one of the veteran Tiger’s 32 goals from the 2023 season
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1072077/leading-goalkickers-every-jack-riewoldt-goal-in-2023
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Leading goalkickers: Every Jack Riewoldt goal in 2023
Watch every one of the veteran Tiger’s 32 goals from the 2023 season
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1072077/leading-goalkickers-every-jack-riewoldt-goal-in-2023
Some absolute gems in there still. Slightly sad seeing him and with the video. Starts the year old and wise, ends it beat up and cooked. Should never have happened.
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Jacks back!
Jack Riewoldt will play (at least) 1 game for home club Clarence in the Tasmanian State League this year
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https://twitter.com/chrisroww/status/1745637851172311337
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Any chance this bloke could hit the track and be picked up again mid-year? Fmd