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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 16, 2007, 10:39:59 PM
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Caro says only 3 clubs haven't made the finals in the past 5 years and Miller's been at Richmond 5 years so she wants to see if Greg will take any responsibility for it.
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* Caro said we're further from than flag than when he first arrived. Miller said that remark is ridiculous. We've got a premiership team off the field. We've got a stable footy club. March and Wright are doing a great job. We've got a new batch of players.
* Caro says the senior players Sugar, Bowden, Richo, Browny and others rolled their eyes at the ninth prediction in Wallace's presentation. What about us. Miller said Plough was very clear with the players when he showed them. There's a short term and a mid term strategy. The media treated the midterm 2011 stuff as short term. Wallace is perhaps too honest and it backfired in the media.
* Richo - we as a club haven't given Richo the resources to help him. Now we are - Schulz, Pettifer, Browny. Carey agreed with Miller. Can't pin the hope of the club on one player. A champion kicks 700 goals.
* Lost 3 narrow games. Senior players out of form. Simple as that.
* We're sticking the long-term plan we have. 3 losses, the media, a small section of upset supporters won't change that.
* Probably Wallace's last time writing about the dogs. We don't want the verbal fighting.
* His Roos shares are with a Bob Ansett trust so he has nothing to do with them.
* They went through the dud recruits - Fleming, Nicholls and co. Blamed it soley on our lack of finances. Young players need to be signed for 2 years plus transfer fees. A recycled player without transfer fees is just on the minimum wage. They were taken based purely on lack of finances.
* Caro then mentioned Kingsley and that then we must believe him to be a wanted player. Miller said they got him while our youngsters develop.
* Talked about Caro's article about Wayne Johnson. Miller wasn't happy about it. Caro sticking her belief he shouldn't be our runner.
* Tambling vs Buddy argument. All just entering their 3rd year so ridiculous to write players off. Tambling will be a very good player. We're just starting to see the best of him. Indigenous boys take longer. Why didn't the dogs take Buddy or Hawthorn with their 1st pick. We got Deledio as well.
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Miller also got stuck into Smorgon about getting into the Roos when he was there and said Smorgon would say he wouldn't do things the Roos would do then do them a year later anyway. Miller said that's the type of bloke Smorgon is.
Greg wasn't a happy camper tonight especially with Caro. The old best form of defence is attack.
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Good on Caro for pegging Miller :thumbsup
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Caro asked the questions Richmond supporters would have wanted asked but once Miller gave an answer she had no follow up ones so she had to move onto the next topic. There was no love lost between the two. She did pull out a quote of Miller's from 3-4 years ago stating supporters would have to be patient for 3-4 years. Miller used our current stable off-field position as evidence that the Club had made big forward strives. What helped Miller was Carey in his corner to offset Caro. Lyon only asked about Richo and Hutchy was practically useless.
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miller looked like a nervous lying pr ick
dont trust a thing he says, and he referred the kangas as "us" 3 or 4 times
so we have a coach still in love with the dogs, a director of football who has shares in and still loves the kangas....where does this end
and by teh way, miler also lied in the paper, he said he replied to every email!! what a liar he did not reply to mine and i asked many questions similar to caro and asked many re/ players positions and game plan. he never replied and the liar says in the paper he replied to all his emails.
miller f off, you lied through ur teeth on the prpgram last night and no one trusts you
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* They went through the dud recruits - Fleming, Nicholls and co. Blamed it soley on our lack of finances. Young players need to be signed for 2 years plus transfer fees. A recycled player without transfer fees is just on the minimum wage. They were taken based purely on lack of finances.
Couldn't they have picked duds, that weren't as duddy as these guys?
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and by teh way, miler also lied in the paper, he said he replied to every email!! what a liar he did not reply to mine and i asked many questions similar to caro and asked many re/ players positions and game plan. he never replied and the liar says in the paper he replied to all his emails.
Did you send it to his email or general enquires? Because the latter is like a black hole. Emails go in but nothing comes out ;)
I didn't think Miller looked nervous. He always looks like that lol. More like he held those sitting in front of him apart from Carey with contempt. He had the angry pills last night and attacked each question he didn't care for.
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First time I've watched it - didn't get home until late and flicked on the box for a few minuted and there it was.
I didn't think Miller looked nervous at all.
More like he held those sitting in front of him apart from Carey with contempt. He had the angry pills last night and attacked each question he didn't care for.
Gotta agree with you there ;D It was actually quite funny to watch to be honest.
dont trust a thing he says, and he referred the kangas as "us" 3 or 4 times
Gee I reckon your grasping at straws there X - he said "us" - big bloody deal! When I was younger and didn't have a stuffed shoulder and back I played cricket. Because of geography I ended up playing for 3 different Clubs - when I talk about any of the 3 clubs and the games played, the team etc I use the term "we" - because that's what is was a "we" situation. You don't think other people say it :-\
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Like the royal "We" - "we are not amused!"
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and by teh way, miler also lied in the paper, he said he replied to every email!! what a liar he did not reply to mine and i asked many questions similar to caro and asked many re/ players positions and game plan. he never replied and the liar says in the paper he replied to all his emails.
Did you send it to his email or general enquires? Because the latter is like a black hole. Emails go in but nothing comes out ;)
I didn't think Miller looked nervous. He always looks like that lol. More like he held those sitting in front of him apart from Carey with contempt. He had the angry pills last night and attacked each question he didn't care for.
i sent it to his email mt, i also have his mobile number . in the past miller has returned various emails, but this time no cigar
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and by teh way, miler also lied in the paper, he said he replied to every email!! what a liar he did not reply to mine and i asked many questions similar to caro and asked many re/ players positions and game plan. he never replied and the liar says in the paper he replied to all his emails.
Did you send it to his email or general enquires? Because the latter is like a black hole. Emails go in but nothing comes out ;)
I didn't think Miller looked nervous. He always looks like that lol. More like he held those sitting in front of him apart from Carey with contempt. He had the angry pills last night and attacked each question he didn't care for.
i sent it to his email mt, i also have his mobile number . in the past miller has returned various emails, but this time no cigar
Then perhaps you should ring him... then he has to answer your questions ::)
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He replied to mine lol
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I said to him today well done last night Greg and he chuckled in a embarrased "turn it up" way lol.
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I like Miller for what he has been for us during a time when things were tragic.
Part of the job is to spin doctor.
LMAOO@ Being honest about stuff to a pack of headhunting ferals - AS IF !!!
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If we finish last this season, Greg Miller needs to get a fully fledged superstar via the psd. Im not talking Judd coz I dont think Judd will leave, but Miller needs to deliver a very big name to Punt Road for free via the PSD or he should be sacked.
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And what if there isn't a superstar in the wings? He can't magic something out of thin air. Or do you know something everyone else doesn't?
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He needs to find one...dont care how...dont care how hard it is....he finds one or he should go!
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Should go anyway.
Hammerheads are playing again in 2008.
Fielding a team in an under 12 comp somewhere.
::)
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There also needs now to be serious consideration to his status as a board member. If hes working at the club as the Director of Football where he has to answer to Steve Wright as the CEO he cant sit on a board where the board has to make a decision/s on the performance of Steve Wright. Up till now its been allowed to go through mainly because of the Wallace honeymoon period and the fact that the supporters still believed we are on the right track. But right now, I sense the supporters are losing hope, the honeymoon period for Wallace has ended, and imho an employee who answers to someone at an organisation cannot then sit on that organisations board. Not now, not when the club could be 0-11 in 7 weeks. Just my opinion- dont know if anyone else agrees.
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There also needs now to be serious consideration to his status as a board member. If hes working at the club as the Director of Football where he has to answer to Steve Wright as the CEO he cant sit on a board where the board has to make a decision/s on the performance of Steve Wright. Up till now its been allowed to go through mainly because of the Wallace honeymoon period and the fact that the supporters still believed we are on the right track. But right now, I sense the supporters are losing hope, the honeymoon period for Wallace has ended, and imho an employee who answers to someone at an organisation cannot then sit on that organisations board. Not now, not when the club could be 0-11 in 7 weeks. Just my opinion- dont know if anyone else agrees.
Totally agree!
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There also needs now to be serious consideration to his status as a board member. If hes working at the club as the Director of Football where he has to answer to Steve Wright as the CEO he cant sit on a board where the board has to make a decision/s on the performance of Steve Wright. Up till now its been allowed to go through mainly because of the Wallace honeymoon period and the fact that the supporters still believed we are on the right track. But right now, I sense the supporters are losing hope, the honeymoon period for Wallace has ended, and imho an employee who answers to someone at an organisation cannot then sit on that organisations board. Not now, not when the club could be 0-11 in 7 weeks. Just my opinion- dont know if anyone else agrees.
Totally agree!
you are loving this jack
keep your pants on
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Not loving anything.
Ïts very sad whats happening at present.You might think its funny but nobody will be laughing when then The Tiges a win less after 11 rounds, will they!
And they will be win less if things dont change.
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Ramps has hit the nail on the head.
Its quite farcical when you think about it and its one of the reasons which made me so incredibly angry about Millers pathetic performance on tv last monday.
He had the gall to sit there and assure us that our off field structure was the best its ever been but according to some information i came across from an excellent source this weekend i can assure everyone on this forum that there is some worrying instability taking place behind the scenes and dont be surprised if there are moves afoot to deal with this situation.
We have every reason to be concerned....
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Ramps has hit the nail on the head.
Its quite farcical when you think about it and its one of the reasons which made me so incredibly angry about Millers pathetic performance on tv last monday.
He had the gall to sit there and assure us that our off field structure was the best its ever been but according to some information i came across from an excellent source this weekend i can assure everyone on this forum that there is some worrying instability taking place behind the scenes and dont be surprised if there are moves afoot to deal with this situation.
We have every reason to be concerned....
If that's true then that instability should be publicly exposed and dealt with. The last thing we need if off-field trouble. It didn't solve anything in the past 25 years and won't again.
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My view on this is simply that the situation cant go on. On the one hand youve got a CEO who has turned the joint around financially and we're all happy with him and he has to answer to one of his employees whose a member of the board. Its not on I reckon! Greg Miller should resign as a member of the board and just do his job and get us some players at the end of the year.
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Ramps has hit the nail on the head.
Its quite farcical when you think about it and its one of the reasons which made me so incredibly angry about Millers pathetic performance on tv last monday.
He had the gall to sit there and assure us that our off field structure was the best its ever been but according to some information i came across from an excellent source this weekend i can assure everyone on this forum that there is some worrying instability taking place behind the scenes and dont be surprised if there are moves afoot to deal with this situation.
We have every reason to be concerned....
The above is 100% correct!
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I reall
Ramps has hit the nail on the head.
Its quite farcical when you think about it and its one of the reasons which made me so incredibly angry about Millers pathetic performance on tv last monday.
He had the gall to sit there and assure us that our off field structure was the best its ever been but according to some information i came across from an excellent source this weekend i can assure everyone on this forum that there is some worrying instability taking place behind the scenes and dont be surprised if there are moves afoot to deal with this situation.
We have every reason to be concerned....
The above is 100% correct!
I had a follow up today to back this info up but from a current player from another club who is in the news regarding a certain career threatening injury and even he is aware of the unsettling situation at richmond which has also filtered through to the senior playing group.
Its a matter of time before this all hits the media.
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* Caro said the loss has damaged the Richmond brand.
* Caro says there's no media hysteria. Media measured in response and rightly asking questions just as fans are.
* Caro says the club admits Terry put up the white flag before the season with his presentation. Terry told by board and players to concentrate more on coaching at the end of last year.
* Gaspar dismissal - botched. Caro doesn't believe there was a player rebellion. Lyon said the players should be sacked if there was.
* Caro says it must be asked why didn't new era start in 2005. Lyon saying he was right about the difference b/w Hawthorn and us even if we didn't like it. The put up a graph of our ladder positions under Wallace and Hutchy said nothing much has improved.
* Lyon would play the same team this week saying you can't let these guys off the hook. Carey would drop half the side lol.
* Carey said callers are soft on Terry. He hasn't got the best out of the players at this stage.
* Despite the white flag presentation, Caro reckons Terry is the right man for the job :-* ;D
* Replayed clip of Kingsley before the game calling Caro a frustrated 60-year old woman. Caro responsed by saying this is an AFL show so we don't talk about VFL players.
* Lyon says callers seem to blame Spud and the past administration (well done IDGAF aka Sam from Croydon :rollin)
* Spud said the recruiting was backed by the club. Admits 2001 draft put the club back 2 years. He said he admitted that but Plough, Miller needs to look forward and not back on the past.
* March said we are reviewing recruiting (already in the process before Sunday). Miller may or may not be part of that (Caro said Miller's influcence has been curbed). March also said Terry is an outstanding coach and has a great rapport with the playing group. Terry came with a plan and has been completely true to that plan. If he wavers from that plan then we will have an issue but he hasn't.
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I think from watching the stuff on Richmond tonight that there are going to be some big changes made this week at Richmond.
I think Miller will be made to step down from the board and hopefully we have found someone who will be able to deliver us the best talent from the draft.
Stayed tuned :shh
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Nice softly, softly approach with Daniher.
Why doesn't Garry get stuck into his own club?
As I said before we are providing a nice diversion.
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Miller may or may not be part of that (Caro said Miller's influcence has been curbed).
Well thats pleasing , even if he stays on hopefully it will be left to Francis to run the show...
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i read 2 things b/w the lines
1/ miller will have many roles dropped, and with any luck just about let go
2/ terry wallace has been put on notice and told to be a 100% coach or he is gone. march said he must stay to his plan and not deviate, as soon as he does deviate bye bye terry
fingers crossed by yrs end at least miler will be gone
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Too right Moi. Funny how Lyon's beloved Dees are winless too yet he never talks about their recruiting, gameplan or wants to know what player X said to player Y ::). Melbourne were aiming for the top 4 this year yet languish equal last and winless. I would have thought that would be a bigger story but of course no one would watch. Only Richmond generates the ratings good and bad. Lyon admitted that on MMM a week or so ago.
I think from watching the stuff on Richmond tonight that there are going to be some big changes made this week at Richmond.
I think Miller will be made to step down from the board and hopefully we have found someone who will be able to deliver us the best talent from the draft.
Stayed tuned :shh
Any name(s) bantered about Bully? Any big name likely to be poached from another club?
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When March was interviewed last night for Footy Classified he also guaranteed Wallace's future:
"I can categorically tell you he will be coaching our side for the next two years," the president said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21689767%255E20322,00.html
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Too right Moi. Funny how Lyon's beloved Dees are winless too yet he never talks about their recruiting, gameplan or wants to know what player X said to player Y ::). Melbourne were aiming for the top 4 this year yet languish equal last and winless. I would have thought that would be a bigger story but of course no one would watch. Only Richmond generates the ratings good and bad. Lyon admitted that on MMM a week or so ago.
I think from watching the stuff on Richmond tonight that there are going to be some big changes made this week at Richmond.
I think Miller will be made to step down from the board and hopefully we have found someone who will be able to deliver us the best talent from the draft.
Stayed tuned :shh
Any name(s) bantered about Bully? Any big name likely to be poached from another club?
I believe melbourne want to end somewhere near the bottom because there is a very good chance that they will pick up judd if they do. This may sound ludicrous and may very well be that, but gee Lyon loves Judd doesn't he and we all know that Judd was a Dees supporter, and we all know the trouble at the West Coast don't we. Might be far fetched but might be equally right on the money too.
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i read 2 things b/w the lines
1/ miller will have many roles dropped, and with any luck just about let go
2/ terry wallace has been put on notice and told to be a 100% coach or he is gone. march said he must stay to his plan and not deviate, as soon as he does deviate bye bye terry
fingers crossed by yrs end at least miler will be gone
Miller has actually had quite a stabalising effect on our club, letting him go would be disastrous and a very big mistake.
Terry Wallace has not been put on notice for anything. Your stament there in step 2 X is completely misleading.
March is very happy with Wallace, it's Miller that is attracting a bit of ire.
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Caro reckons that Terry right man for job :lol
I would say that if he bought me a coffee every week.
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i read 2 things b/w the lines
1/ miller will have many roles dropped, and with any luck just about let go
2/ terry wallace has been put on notice and told to be a 100% coach or he is gone. march said he must stay to his plan and not deviate, as soon as he does deviate bye bye terry
fingers crossed by yrs end at least miler will be gone
Miller has actually had quite a stabalising effect on our club, letting him go would be disastrous and a very big mistake.
Terry Wallace has not been put on notice for anything. Your stament there in step 2 X is completely misleading.
March is very happy with Wallace, it's Miller that is attracting a bit of ire.
i never said terry has been put on notice, i just said thats how i read it and im right. march said as long as terry sticks to rthe plan he presented to the board his job his safe, to that says as soon as he deviates from his plans he is out!
and u may think miler has been stabilising the club well your wrong!! look where we are, in teh same damn poo place we have been for 27 yrs, dont tell me he has stabilised the joint cos we are in a crisis and he is hiding it all!
miller is a joke and i think march knows it, march is may be a clown, but he seems a stronger clown than casey was who gave miller so much power! mistake
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has everyone noticed that the media are all saying one thing
that the Tigers went out and refused to play
was it a stand against the club
l think it was
the game against a side like West Coast had everyone talking how much we improved but were not quite able to take the points the eagle players said we were improving & give them a scare
l thought after 5 ok efforts they had a huge chance to defeat Geelong
l think they tanked it big time & l watch the replay & somethings & decisions just dont add up
l thought also that Tivendale had been playing better football this year his kicking was direct & hard & he was kicking goals like old & gathering the ball alot why drop him now ??? why not do it last year ??? the year before TW was still the coach then things just dont add up
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According to Caro "people at Richmond" (no names of course ::) ) keep mentioning Sheeds name even though it could be just a romantic notion and pie in the sky stuff. Sheeds said he wouldn't rule out going back at some stage but he's not sure what he would have to offer at 60. He seemed pretty happy and keen to stay at Essendon to me because of the early draft picks he's picked the last two years. He probably would have crossed over if Essendon hadn't lost the 1999 PF. Caro said we unofficially went after Sheeds but Sheeds said that wasn't right.
Caro hopes there isn't a board challenge or the coach is sacked but she said "people at Richmond" are angry and that the 4 people at the press conference last week aren't seen as Richmond people. March isn't well known and Sugar is seen more as a ex-Adelaide premiership player even though he barracked for Richmond as a kid.
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And Sheedy is a former Richmond premiership player who barracked for Essendon as a kid :-\
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According to Caro "people at Richmond" (no names of course ::) ) keep mentioning Sheeds name even though it could be just a romantic notion and pie in the sky stuff. Sheeds said he's not sure what he would have to offer at 60. Seemed pretty happy and keen to stay at Essendon to me because of the early draft picks he's picked the last two years.
Caro hopes there isn't a board challenge or the coach is sacked but she said "people at Richmond" are angry and that the 4 people at the press conference last week aren't seen as Richmond people. March isn't well known and Sugar is seen more as a ex-Adelaide premiership player even though he barracked for Richmond as a kid.
What was I saying about faceless people posturing and manoeuvring :banghead :banghead
Gary March is a Richmond person - couldn't get a more passionate bloke when it comes to the Tigers. So he is not Eddie McHead or Richard Pratt but does he really need to be?
And what a comfort Caro "hopes" there is no challenge ::)
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Yeah, she said (vaguely, as usual) wealthy and influential supporters.
Can't they just be supporters?
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the fact that Caro has now cottoned on to rumours that have floated on just about every footy site there is....just watch this story run. Well you know guys...we may be poo...but media loves us, we'll be selling them there newspapers again shortly- i think you guys know what i mean.
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Yeah, she said (vaguely, as usual) wealthy and influential supporters.
Can't they just be supporters?
Because their egos will not allow them to be. :banghead
Why does thier so called support seem to come with terms & conditions ??? :help
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the fact that Caro has now cottoned on to rumours that have floated on just about every footy site there is....just watch this story run. Well you know guys...we may be pooh...but media loves us, we'll be selling them there newspapers again shortly- i think you guys know what i mean.
They love us because we're hopeless and we make good copy.
I think it's better when they're not talking about us and we just get on with what we have to do.
But no, it's Richmond, we don't do things that way ::)
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Caro getting ugly whats in her mouth are they old age braces & matching clothes gee wiz talk about dress code not
cant the make up & wardrobe at channel eddie fix her up l'm gunna have nightmares wheres my Vicodin ;D
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the fact that Caro has now cottoned on to rumours that have floated on just about every footy site there is....just watch this story run. Well you know guys...we may be pooh...but media loves us, we'll be selling them there newspapers again shortly- i think you guys know what i mean.
caro, whether u love or hate he is always on the money, 99% of teh time anyway.
now she said weeks ago there was triuble at tigerland and everyone laughed. she knows whats going on but csnt come out a blatantly say it because she absolutely loves richmond but she loves terry too. but she knows and he sources are not footy forums
sheedy was his usual self, he said what can he offer at 60 at one point and then he said he still wants to coach whetehr its at essendon or elsewhere cos he loves it and woudl rather coach than work for the afl.
now its what kevin didnt say that was interesting. he neve rsaid he woulndt coach us, he never said he hadnt been approached by us this yr, and he never said he woudl be coaching essendon next yr. his body language and smirk suggested all along while being questioned that he had planty to offer at 60 and had been contacted by the tigers and has considered it very strongly
as i said , caro mentioned 3-4 weeks ago or even prior to that that the tigers were in turmoil behind the scenes, this is at a time when we all thoughts things were fantastic
anywone who thinks all is ok at tigerland has their head in the sand
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stuff that dehydrated old prune faced.
She's just a woman !! :scream
Since the game began it' been a womans secret wish to be part of a club and Caro is merely
tokenary of the, "pain in the ass bitch" that just wont pizs off.
She is no diferent than that inbred dog,Hutchy.
She tries to appear to have a silent power within proceedings @ the club but really she is
just a dirty journo whore that escapes the label of "Football groupie" due only to her insistence she isn't.
She thinks she has the sole right to announce and feed rumors that will ultimately direct negativity at the club,
all for the praise of herself.
FFS Woman,ur life revolves around a subject you will never understand first hand
so WTF can u tell me about it bitch!?!
Spare the political and administrative garbage that you spin,anyone can work that out.
IT AINT NO FUKCEN NEWS !!!!!!!
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Come on Caro - name names.
Put names to the faceless "People at Richmond"
You obviously know who these cowards are - so don't be a coward yourself name them :banghead
If you really hope there isn't a challenge or another coach sacked then name.
We'd all love to know
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All I know that is Caro meets regularly with Wallace and Miller for coffee
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how nice...
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Come on Caro - name names.
Put names to the faceless "People at Richmond"
You obviously know who these cowards are - so don't be a coward yourself name them :banghead
If you really hope there isn't a challenge or another coach sacked then name.
We'd all love to know
2004 Alternative ticket supporters come to mind. They have the history down the years ::).
As for this sad obsession with Sheeds, it's like someone who is still pining for that ex-love from many years ago who has long ago moved on and is now happily married with kids. After 27 years get over it for heaven's sake :sleep. Sheeds can once again play us off against the Essendon board because these twits live in fairyland infatuated with him.
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Caro already has Sheeds out the door at Essendon:
Dons and Sheedy set to part
Caroline Wilson | May 16, 2007
KEVIN Sheedy is highly unlikely to coach Essendon beyond 2007. The subtle message coming from Windy Hill — and it is extremely subtle at this stage
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/dons-and-sheedy-set-to-part/2007/05/15/1178995158381.html
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Stop the rot and trying to cause trouble, Caro.
Scenario - Wallace no longer feels needed - walks - meanwhile after much crap and saying Sheeds is going home to the Tiges finally, Sheeds resigns at Bombers.
Be very careful ppl in what you want, you may get nothiing :banghead
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Well the tiger fans might want to get used to the idea of K. Sheedy being back at Punt Road.
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Well the tiger fans might want to get used to the idea of K. Sheedy being back at Punt Road.
Why?
Because the Bombers don't want him or because he wants to come back. They are 2 very different scenario.
When will ever learn :banghead
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Because ""Richmond "" want him back.
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I'm sure a lot of supporters want him back, but just because we've wanted him back for so long, doesn't mean he's the best person for the job.
So, we get Sheeds, the Bombers get Daniher and Melbourne get Wallace. I'm sure the Dees and Bombers supporters will get a good deal, but I'm not so sure about us.
Stooged again! :banghead
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I reckon the Bombers will get Mark Thompson before Daniher
Also reckon that Mark Harvey will go to the Demons.
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getting sheedy would be a disgace.
He is finished has been ofr 10 years.
How interesting that all of a sudden now that the bummers dont want him he is interested.
Stuff him He is a pr!ck who turned his back on us for the last 27 years, He is an essendon man now. has been for a long long time
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I've been sayin it for years Caro causes more problems for us than she solves.
On the balance of her work she has as many contacts inside Richmond as all the other league clubs combined.
She might be balanced but the problem is that whilst every other club releases good publicity thru PR and shelters their bad publicity, we release our good publicity thru PR (and Caro) but the bad news also gets out thru Caro too. Maybe we are a shambles but she doesn't help. She survives thru people reading her stuff and in this way promotes herself to the detriment of the RFC.
Will be a great day when the wrinkly old bag hangs up her pen. :thumbsup
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Because ""Richmond "" want him back.
Richmond ??? as oppsed to "People at Richmond"
So who makes up "Richmond". What is it exactly
Give me a break. ::)
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Because ""Richmond "" want him back.
You mean the usual old has-beens want him back :sleep. Their egos are so huge they still refuse to recognise the majority of members easily rejected them in 2004 and blame Miller instead ::).
It'd be typical Richmond to get Sheeds back as coach now that he is past it :scream. Romanticism won't add 10-15 middle-age players to our list.
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Sheeds wants to coach on....
The coach, however, is not yet ready to walk away, saying yesterday he plans to coach next year and would be happy to do so at another club. He has also put an end to the notion he could remain at Essendon as anything other than the senior coach.
"I wouldn't do that to any person. I will be out, don't worry about that," Sheedy said of the difficulties of him remaining at the club with a new senior coach arriving.
"There's a lot of work to be done in footy if I don't coach. But if I do coach either Essendon or I coach against Essendon I will really coach well, I can tell you. That's just the way it goes. So that will happen one way or the other."
"I would like to think I could work in all areas of the footy club, or most areas of the footy club. Forty-two years' experience is a lot of experience so if I don't coach anywhere, I don't coach. I will go on holiday or chase some knowledge in Europe or America and come back and you could have 12 months off and go and become a sensational coach."
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/sheedy-wants-to-coach-on/2007/05/16/1178995236214.html
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if sheedy come back to us ...
would he be coach ??? ...
i think we should get him back as something ...
an assistant coach maybe ???
Terry and Kevin ... our coachs ... LMAO ... be maddd as ...
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if sheedy come back to us ...
would he be coach ??? ...
i think we should get him back as something ...
an assistant coach maybe ???
Terry and Kevin ... our coachs ... LMAO ... be maddd as ...
Hell would need to freeze over before Sheeds and Miller work together :yep. Sheeds wouldn't want to be a assistant coach either nor work under Wallace and his "basketball crap".
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Lyon and Carey are in favour of the new rule whereas Caro and Hutchy aren't. Lyon kept going on about not using your hands and pulled out some footage of Mooney using his forearm and shoulder against a Port player on the weekend to say that's how you do it.
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Yes Gary the rule now is no hands but it was never that in the past. It was always push in the back. So you're now allowed to push with your forearm in the back and that's okay ???. lol pulling out some vision of a skinny Port kid and comparing him to big Mal pushing back.
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Yes Gary the rule now is no hands but it was never that in the past. It was always push in the back. So you're now allowed to push with your forearm in the back and that's okay ???. lol pulling out some vision of a skinny Port kid and comparing him to big Mal pushing back.
Gaddy's little stunts are becoming tiresome. It seemed like he was trying to manufacture support for the hands in the back rule just to swim against the tide. The funny thing about the skinny port kid vision is that I actually saw a lot better examples over the weekend that supported his point, he must have been up at Falls Creek for the weekend and missed them.
Gaddy has also been using his priviledged position in the football media to absolutely tee off at Jeff Kennett lately at every available opportunity*, including digging up old tape of him as well. It seems a very bitter and personal attack by Gaddy, he must still want revenge over Kennett's footy show comments, get over it Garry your just being a big sook.
*I should qualify that I am to this day bagging Kennett on issues like loss of nurses, schools, public holidays, Citylink etc, but these are merely peripheral issues, I'm talking about footy here.
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Former North Melbourne champion Wayne Carey said yesterday he supported the new interpretation, but added umpires were not consistent.
"Everyone was told about the new rule at the start of the season, and the only thing I'm against is the consistency of the umpires," Carey said.
"If they are consistent in every decision, I'm all for it."
Carey said players such as Richardson had to learn to use their forearms, which was legal, when making contact with an opponent's back in a marking contest.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21810863%255E19742,00.html
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Lyon: Law's easy to handle
29 May 2007 Herald-Sun
Garry Lyon
THE "hands-in-the-back" rule has been one of the best directions given to football in recent times, Garry Lyon writes.
It is as close to black and white in its interpretation as we are likely to get in our game.
You can argue all you like about whether you think it's good for the game or not. But in terms of instruction to players, it is breathtakingly simple.
The two things at the ends of your arms (hands) cannot be placed into the back of an opposition player.
If you do it, you will give away a free kick. Simple. End of story.
It makes for a more even, honest marking contest, and smart players will adjust and use their bodies more effectively.
That is not to say that umpires will not get it wrong on occasions, but how is that different to any other free kick that may be missed during a game?
And as for the suggestion that the rule is dangerous -- give me a break.
Running with the flight of the ball, Jonathan-Brown style, into a pack is dangerous.
Emerging with the mark is magnificent.
Now we wouldn't want to change that, would we?
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21810822%255E19742,00.html
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Yep the new rule is black and white Garry :whistle
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5502119,00.jpg)
No whistle: the roles were reversed, but without a free kick when Essendon defender Mal Michael touched Tiger Matthew Richardson's back in the last quarter at the MCG on Saturday. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
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It's so "breathtakingly simple" and "close to black and white" Garry that every marking contest is now like a toss of coin ::). Will it be a free; won't it be a free :scream. It's a utter disaster as the above pic alongside the Richo non-mark shows.
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Courtesy of Yellow and Black info:
Hutchie said today that Wallace will be on Footy Classified tomorrow night (Monday 4/6/07) 10:35pm on Channel 9.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=96439&postcount=1
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Courtesy of Yellow and Black info:
Hutchie said today that Wallace will be on Footy Classified tomorrow night (Monday 4/6/07) 10:35pm on Channel 9.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=96439&postcount=1
Here's a summary of what we can expect.......here after 10.35pm tomorrow
He's full of schit,
He talks crap,
He is spin doctoring,
He can't coach,
He's trying to fool us all,
And of course................
Caro was flirting
:rollin
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Here's a summary of what we can expect.......here after 10.35pm tomorrow
Caro was flirting
Even I'll be backing up this one. 8) :D
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WP can you give us a good multibet
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WP can you give us a good multibet
;D
Ramps I'm not a gambler - don't know the first thing about betting or odds or anything like that. So I'll have to confess what's a multibet :-\ :P :help :cheers
;D
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Garry Lyon is salivating already. Another chance to bag the RFC ::)
Here's a summary of what we can expect.......here after 10.35pm tomorrow
He's full of schit,
He talks crap,
He is spin doctoring,
He can't coach,
He's trying to fool us all,
And of course................
Caro was flirting
:rollin
:ROTFL :thatsgold
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i agree ...
wallace's new nickname is "SPIN DOCTOR!" ...
yeah ... expect excuses and watch him suck up !
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WP - you forgot "he's in it for himself".
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I'll be watching tonight it should be interesting. And here I thought that I was the only one that thought that Lyon was alway bagging us. I t was getting close to stop watching it. Well I know now I'm not the ponly one with those thoughts. Lyon's is an arrogant prick when it comes to us. But lets see if he's man enough to say anything tonight. And just how much Terry will be made to squirm.
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Wilson should tell him to step down. Make for good ratings atleast.
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Here's a summary of what we can expect.......here after 10.35pm tomorrow
He's full of schit,
He talks crap,
He is spin doctoring,
He can't coach,
He's trying to fool us all,
And of course................
Caro was flirting
:rollin
Beautiful work, WP.
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You might find that ""hutchy "" will load up. ;)
Should be good viewing
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The more they get stuck into Wallace, the more Jackstar will be enjoying it.
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The more they get stuck into Wallace, the more Jackstar will be enjoying it.
If you think being winless is acceptable after 10 rounds, good luck Gordon!
I DONT
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The more they get stuck into Wallace, the more Jackstar will be enjoying it.
If you think being winless is acceptable after 10 rounds, good luck Gordon!
I DONT
We already know how you feel about the situation and Wallace for that matter... kinda hard to miss when it's being posted countless times ::)
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The more they get stuck into Wallace, the more Jackstar will be enjoying it.
If you think being winless is acceptable after 10 rounds, good luck Gordon!
I DONT
We already know how you feel about the situation and Wallace for that matter... kinda hard to miss when it's being posted countless times ::)
well steph, if you had to put up with all these years of crap, you might feel the same as well.
I actually do know what the cause of the current problem is at Punt Road, not like the majority here who think we are headed in the right direction. ::)
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I will watch for the Hutchison onslaught.
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WP - you forgot "he's in it for himself".
:gobdrop :gobdrop on my gawd I am sooooooo sorry :rollin
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Summary (feel free to add/correct)
* Terry said it is his most difficult time in footy purely based on him never having such a losing streak as coach before.
* Caro asked if the pre-round 1 presentation was a self-fulfilling prophecy? Plough said no. He never said we weren't going to be competitive until 2011. Holding pattern this year and then a window of opportunity next 18 months. We wouldn't have a balanced list until 2011 onwards.
* Yes it did backfire in a public relations sense. Never doing it again as it was never reported properly. Reports were made on what was reported and not on what he actually said. Hutchy said well that's how Caro and others interpreted it. Plough repeated no one reported the presentation properly.
* Wrote about the dogs because he was asked to by the Herald-Sun for his column and they were Mike's favourite Vic side at the time. Perhaps he gets himself in trouble be being too brutally honest at times.
* Caro asked if there was any friction between him and Miller as Greg has made some poor recruiting decisions? Terry said he's 100% in alignment with Greg. He did/does heaps of work. Agreed perhaps Greg has too much to do until this year. Not his fault as that was where the Club was financially when Plough first arrived. Greg had to fill in many roles (recruiting manager, footy dept head, etc). Greg was the one who got people to this Club and back on track.
* Yes we were a trainwreck. We didn't even have a proper feeder club. Coburg was full of 26-27 year olds.
* Carey asked Plough why he escaped media scrutiny? No question from board or management about changing the coach. That and his contractual situation is probably the reason he has escaped more media attention unlike other coaches who are in their final year of their contract. He understands this from his time in the media.
* Hutchy asked why the Hawks have gone ahead since 2004? Terry said the Hawks improvement this year has come from their 23-24 year olds like Boyle. We don't have that at Richmond. Hutchy then asked why not? Terry said because we don't. The Hawks already had these now 23-24 year olds on their list 2-3 years ago. We didn't.
* Plough disagreed we topped up with Graham and Kingsley (Question from Caro). He said they didn't cost us anything. Kingsley was the only player over 21 we had to choose from for the Adelaide game. All we can do is replace one kid with another (eg: a Riewoldt for a Hughes). They were going to talk more about Kingsley later on but interview ended then and there.
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What a hard hitting interview. Just ask questions that have been asked and answered numerous time before :yawn. Too easy for Plough.
The only question Plough had semi-difficulty with was Hutchy's one about picking up Kingsley and Graham instead of kids. Plough said they came cheap but didn't explain why. No mention of kids needing to be signed to 2-year deals compared to a PSD recycled player on a basic 1 year contract and picking up kids with late picks or in the PSD have a low percentage chance of making it.
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You might find that ""hutchy "" will load up. ;)
Should be good viewing
Yeah Hutchy was on fire Jack ::) ::) asked one question.
Lyon asked one question
Carey asked one question
Caro asked the most.
Tezza even gave then a chance to aks about Kingsley but they didn't. Wallace said, when someone said Kingsley's name something along the lines "I'll get to him in a moment" and then Wallace didn't say anything.
No follow up question by any of them - har hitting journalism at its best. ::)
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You might find that ""hutchy "" will load up. ;)
Should be good viewing
Yeah Hutchy was on fire Jack ::) ::) asked one question.
Lyon asked one question
Carey asked one question
Caro asked the most.
Tezza even gave then a chance to aks about Kingsley but they didn't. Wallace said, when someone said Kingsley's name something along the lines "I'll get to him in a moment" and then Wallace didn't say anything.
No follow up question by any of them - har hitting journalism at its best. ::)
Crap interview.
Seemed like Huthy was gagged
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What a joke.
Total waste of time having Wallace on the show.
As i am currently anti Wallace, i think it was a setup. (Ofcourse i would think negative)
In relation to the content of the interview, i agree with Wallace with what he said about the age bracket of 23-24 year olds and having a lack of there.
If you look at that age bracket, these players should have been drafted 5-6 years ago. Obviously Wallace wasnt there at that time and we drafted a lot of hacks i.e. Weller, Marsh, Hudson, Fleming etc, etc.
I also partly defend Wallace in the fact that hasnt started change the list over. He has made a number of changes over the 3 years he has been there, but i dont think he has made enough and he hasnt played enough kids during that time.
The one thing i want to know is why do people continually just blame SPUD for our lack of 23-34 year olds? Wasnt Greg Miller there at that time and was supposed to be guiding the re-building of our list.
I dont want to hear any Bullsh!t about financial contraints either. That is just a cop out.
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Can't agree on Fleming being a hack he was playing some good football was tough & when he hit players put them out of game time
something RFC lack totaly over the years no hard men
He did more in a game than captain Johnson did in getting the hardball & kicking goals when we needed them most
l seriously think RFC owed him at least one extra year to settle him in but thats the past now can't be changed
he went on to play some good football in the SANFL for South was a reg in the best players most weeks
l have not kept tabs on him lately but Tuck was the better choice his just been carrying injuries in games something l'm not keen on
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getting back on topic footy classified is something l dont bother watching its a rubbish show
all the information they give out is old & is talked about in post match anyway
Wayne Carey will be shagging Caro next thats media stuff
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Seemed like Huthy was gagged
More like Hutchy knows stuff all about Richmond :yep.
They were more keen on talking to Aker anyway. They cut Plough's interview short.
The one thing i want to know is why do people continually just blame SPUD for our lack of 23-34 year olds? Wasnt Greg Miller there at that time and was supposed to be guiding the re-building of our list.
I dont want to hear any Bullsh!t about financial contraints either. That is just a cop out.
Don't forget Greg Beck was our recruiting manager for 8 years (1996-2004) :help. 23-26 year olds would come from drafts 5-8 years ago (1999-2002). Spud became coach at the end of 1999. None of our 1999 and "superdraft" 2001 draftees are still on our list. None from 13 picks and 2 rookie promotions. Hyde was redrafted in 2001 but was originally picked up in the 2000 draft. This was before Miller. Even Spud admitted recently that the 2001 and 2002 drafts were his fault. Miller's error was Alex Gilmour in 2003 at pick 21.
Miller and Plough's erred in the 2005 draft, not that this would effect us greatly this year. A rebuilding side needs more than just 4 picks otherwise you're relying on every kid drafted that year to make it. Mind you Browny winning us 4 or 5 games off his own boot that year probably hurt us in hindsight as we finished 10th and not bottom 3 or 4 where the best kids were. Also rookieing both King and Clingan this year was an error IMHO. We have more than enough running players on our senior list. One rookie spot should have been a young KPP preferably a KP defender. Remember Thursty was a rookie.
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MT,
You're spoiling the fun by telling the truth. Sad as it may be that is factual history.
Just one point. Whilst I think your points on the use of the rookie list are probably valid, Tas may turn out to be a gem. Great skills of both sides. Good speed and hates being beaten. FJ has very high hopes for him apparently.
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The one I laughed most at was Carey asking Terry why the media weren't getting into him. I mean seriously, Wayne (a member of the media) asking Terry (the coach) why the media (which includes Wayne) isn't getting into the coach (Terry). Shouldn't he be asking himself and his fellow panelists why they aren't instead of asking Terry?
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MT,
You're spoiling the fun by telling the truth. Sad as it may be that is factual history.
Just one point. Whilst I think your points on the use of the rookie list are probably valid, Tas may turn out to be a gem. Great skills of both sides. Good speed and hates being beaten. FJ has very high hopes for him apparently.
You're right HKT, Francis has big wraps on Tas.
My point is you need depth in all positions. You need back-up. You need alternative options for different match-ups or to push a KPP forward or back to get a mismatch or if a key defender is being beaten on the day. Sure Polak and Thursty look like forming our CHB and FB respectively for the next decade but one serious injury to either of them and we're in trouble again along our spine. We still rely too heavily on Joel to hold the defence together and play on bigger opponents. McGuane and Moore even if they come on aren't key defenders. More thirdman talls. Whilst the number of talls on our list has improved under Plough we still need more for a balanced list.
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The one I laughed most at was Carey asking Terry why the media weren't getting into him. I mean seriously, Wayne (a member of the media) asking Terry (the coach) why the media (which includes Wayne) isn't getting into the coach (Terry). Shouldn't he be asking himself and his fellow panelists why they aren't instead of asking Terry?
They had their chance to get stuck into Plough and the whole four of them couldn't think of any original questions to ask. Easier to bag us without facts in the press than to our faces. Soft! :wallywink
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You're right HKT, Francis has big wraps on Tas.
My point is you need depth in all positions. You need back-up. You need alternative options for different match-ups or to push a KPP forward or back to get a mismatch or if a key defender is being beaten on the day. Sure Polak and Thursty look like forming our CHB and FB respectively for the next decade but one serious injury to either of them and we're in trouble again along our spine. We still rely too heavily on Joel to hold the defence together and play on bigger opponents. McGuane and Moore even if they come on aren't key defenders. More thirdman talls. Whilst the number of talls on our list has improved under Plough we still need more for a balanced list.
MT,
I agree with your points. However like all fans I have my favourites. I watched Tas very closely a couple of times late last year before the rookie draft and was super impressed with the skills. I was lucky enough to be sitting with the dads of a couple of players and they were similarly impressed. Since then I'm following him as closely as I can and he's starting to do the right things.
So I will contradict myself here. For list balance he probably shouldn't be there. But I like what I see and think he may turn into a very skilled player for us.
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MT,
I agree with your points. However like all fans I have my favourites. I watched Tas very closely a couple of times late last year before the rookie draft and was super impressed with the skills. I was lucky enough to be sitting with the dads of a couple of players and they were similarly impressed. Since then I'm following him as closely as I can and he's starting to do the right things.
So I will contradict myself here. For list balance he probably shouldn't be there. But I like what I see and think he may turn into a very skilled player for us.
No probs HKT. My point wasn't a go at Tas. I hope he does live up to the hopes many others have on him. We need foot smart and skilled players too.
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Just in case we missed anythiing, this is a summary of the interview:
GL: Is it your most difficult time in footy?
TW: I’d say so. From a coaching point of view, never had a losing streak like this one – four was the most at any one time. Been a trying time, to say the least.
CW: Much was made of preseason media briefing. She wasn’t the only one critical at the time, but she was critical. Looking back, was it a self-fulfilling prophecy to say that you weren’t going to be super competitive in an ongoing sense until 2011?
TW: Never said we wouldn’t be competitive till 2011. What was said that we might have 12 months holding pattern, depending on the development of some of our younger players. And then thought that there was a window of opportunity to improve in the next 18 months, but our list management wouldn’t be in the shape that we would like it in, in the shape that WC Eagles are in now probably for another 3 or 4 seasons because of inherited problems of the list.
CW: Greg Miller admitted it backfired.
TW: Absolutely. He wouldn’t do it again, because you don’t get the opportunity of reporting it yourself. He thought there were only two or three reporters there, but other reporters who weren’t there jumped onto the issue and didn’t think it was reported right from day one.
CH: You interpreted differently to what Caro wrote.
CW: We’ve talked about it, but in PR terms it hurt TW. It coincided with a Bulldogs article which he copped criticism for as well. Greg Miller also said it was too difficult for Terry to write about the Bulldogs now.
TW: He hasn’t heard that from anyone at the club at all, but I want to move on. He was asked to write an article about the Bulldogs by the Herald Sun. He wrote it as honestly as he could. He gets into trouble because he’s brutally honest. Not intending to change that.
CW: How are you and Greg? She thinks he’s made poor recruiting decisions and thinks he took too long for clean out for what TW says is necessary to make the club rise. Is he the man to lead us out of the mire. He’s got lots of roles. Are you two in alignment with what’s happening at the club?
TW: Absolutely, a hundred per cent. One of the reasons he went to the club was because Greg was there. If you see the amount of work he does – corporate wise etc to get the funds to help the footy department, running a recruiting division and keeping them together when we didn’t have a recruiting officer, done an inordinate amount of work.
CW: Has he had too much to do?
TW: I think he has, but that’s not his fault. That’s where we were at that stage. From the time he arrived, we were the lowest of the low from a budget point of view and the lowest spending of any club in the competition. Knew that when he took on the job and knew that it would change over the next couple of years. Greg has been the main one to be really pushing that along.
WC: 10-0 – you’ve escaped scrutiny from media. Does he consider himself an untouchable?
TW: He gets his fair share of criticism on talkback radio from people with axes to grind. Coaches at certain times in their contractual situation, more so than anything else, if people don’t believe there’s any chance of anything happening - he thinks that this has been what has been so good at Richmond, that there hasn’t been any question from the board of management about the situation of where he’s at and we’ve been really stable from that point of view. What happens, he doesn’t thinks the media don’t write about the questions if there’s not going to be a question there.
CH: Why didn’t you clean the place out two years ago? Why didn’t we go down the Alastair Clarkson path.
TW: We believe we did clean it out. We turned over 12 players in the first year. Asks if you can turn over 20 in a year lol.
CH: But you did top up – Mark Graham etc.
TW: One or two. Certainly there wasn’t anyone we took that was costing us anything.
CH: Supporters want to see youth come through rapidly. Hawks further progressed.
TW: Are they further progressed on the back of 23 and 24 year olds or are they further progressed on the back of 19 and 20 years olds. Got guys like Boyle coming through – that group of 23-24 years olds that they’ve got that we haven’t. So they were already in the Hawthorn system.
CH: (Thickhead) But have we played those guys?
TW: We haven’t got those 23 and 24 year olds. Re not playing Cleve Hughes and JON – the Hawks haven’t played Dowler and Muston as well. That’s why the Hawks are in such great shape because they’ve still got those kids coming through as well. We didn’t have 23 and 24 years olds and that’s our greatest problem. If you expect 18 and 19 years olds to deliver, they won’t stand up.
GL: Isn’t it time now we start playing the kids or is it going to be too much for them.
TW: We’re rotating and turning them over with players of a similar age bracket. Against Adelaide – we only had one player (Kingsley) over 21 that was available for us to play. All we had available was kids. If we were just sitting there and saying they’re the best kids for our future, we would just play them. We’re still playing the guys who deserve a guernsey. We’ve got so many the young kids because that’s our lot. So we’re replacing a Riewoldt with a Hughes or a Schulz with a Hughes, all around the same age bracket.
CW: Do you regret describing the club as a train wreck?
TW: From a list management point of view it was, and we just had so many players 26 and above that were going nowhere. Talk about a club that were perennial 9th and at some stage we had to get rid of those guys to give ourselves an opportunity. It went further. It went to our feeder club at Coburg who were 26 and 27 years as well.
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Seemed like Hutchy was gagged
:o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D
Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help
:rollin
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i thought terry was going to discuss why they recruited KK openly and didnt shirk the issue. i thought that the panle just cut him off and went to a break and didnt give him time to finish what he was about to say
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Top stuff Moi. Thanks for that :thumbsup :cheers :bow. Hutchy is a thickhead ;D.
Agree X. They wanted to get Plough off and Aker on.
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Seemed like Hutchy was gagged
:o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D
Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help
:rollin
The media protect there own and Plough is there own
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can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be
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If the RFC played chinese whispers we'd be premiers :blah
Seemed like Hutchy was gagged
:o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D
Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help
:rollin
The media protect there own and Plough is there own
Hutchy was an idiot last night. He simply had no idea about our list.
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terry's excuse is that we don't have "23-24 year old players" ...
bad excuse !!!
i believe we have recruited the wrong players ... not all ...
i believe terry is probably a good coach ...
but he isn't getting the best out of the players ...
i don't know if its the players ... coach's game plan ...
its something
0 wins from 10 matches ... thats on track to fitzroys record ...
though i believe we will win matches with brown and simmonds back ...
both coach and players to blame ...
last week was the players fault !!!
they seriously looked like the CBF !
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can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be
Maybe, but unlike some he doesn't publicly stick the knife in :P
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can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be
Maybe, but unlike some he doesn't publicly stick the knife in :P
Your must be absolutely joking ?
Its amazing how many people make comments like there Terrys best friends. This is the same bloke who screwed the doggies and excepted money from Sydney .. And dont worry Moi, I have told him too his face.
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Caro says just a mention about Richmond going into the break without a win. They've been admirable and only really had one bad game but as Wayne says non wins and just a draw is terrible. Lots of problems at Richmond and it's not Terry.
Carey then comes in with something about Miller but is cut short before he hardly gets a work out by Lyon saying we haven't got time this week to talk about Richmond and ends the show with the coaches' votes.
No substance yet again ::).
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Caro would be better off shutting her mouth and stop talking about the Tigers altogether.
Gary Lyon is the main reason why I do not listen to MMM as he just talks
garbage and thinks his opinion is the only correct one. I have just had enough
of both Caro's and Gary's fundamentalist dogma. Its one thing to host a program or
write an article regarding a certain topic it is another thing all together to use your position
as a forum of righteousness and absolute correctness. :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck
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And as for Hutchy, well, don't even get me started on Hutchy :whistle
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Did someone on the field oneday knock Lyon for a six, and is this the reason why he dislike us so much. Or did he try to coach us and was knocked back. As he has go it in for us. :gotigers
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By being in the media and talking so negatively about the Tigers all Garry Lyon is doing is keeping the focus on the programs he hosts and is a part of away from the diabolical state of affairs the dees have been in this season as he is too gutless to answer questions on them face to face or in the media rather taking the easier option to grill the Tigers and write articles on Sheeds and other things he has not got a foggy idea on. Its all just a huge smokescreen that he Caro and co just like hiding behind to talk their crap.
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And as for Hutchy, well, don't even get me started on Hutchy :whistle
i bettcha i hate him more :whistle
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carro better show some balls that she looks like she has and really give it to gaddy lyon on monday night! she better dril him about how poor the demons list recruiting and attitude has been! go get him carro!
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carro better show some balls that she looks like she has and really give it to gaddy lyon on monday night! she better dril him about how poor the demons list recruiting and attitude has been! go get him carro!
lyon is a biased prick, give it to him good Caro :gotigers
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LOL to the caller who rang in and said to Garry and co that Melbourne need to do a Richmond and clear out the old deadwood like Holland, Yze, Godfrey, etc... and rebuild via youth. Where's that article Garry? :wallywink
If St Kilda loses again on Sunday which is likely then wait for the deflection onto the Saints and Ross Lyon come Monday night.
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If Caro had the toughness that her looks imply she could seriously scare some people. Fair dinkum her face is so hard it could be used as a wrecking ball to demolish buildings!
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If Caro had the toughness that her looks imply she could seriously scare some people. Fair dinkum her face is so hard it could be used as a wrecking ball to demolish buildings!
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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If Caro had the toughness that her looks imply she could seriously scare some people. Fair dinkum her face is so hard it could be used as a wrecking ball to demolish buildings!
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
:lol
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If Caro had the toughness that her looks imply she could seriously scare some people. Fair dinkum her face is so hard it could be used as a wrecking ball to demolish buildings!
Very harsh lakka.
Carro if ya watching :-*
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LOL to the caller who rang in and said to Garry and co that Melbourne need to do a Richmond and clear out the old deadwood like Holland, Yze, Godfrey, etc... and rebuild via youth. Where's that article Garry? :wallywink
If St Kilda loses again on Sunday which is likely then wait for the deflection onto the Saints and Ross Lyon come Monday night.
Well St Kilda won so there is no excuse to not turning the blowtorch on the Demons unless Garry Lyon proves what a sewrage dwelling rat he is and talks about Chris Judd's absence from the Eagles line up and their two losses in a row as well as the Swans poor form to smoke screen the Demons woes and Neale Daniher's tenure.
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LOL to the caller who rang in and said to Garry and co that Melbourne need to do a Richmond and clear out the old deadwood like Holland, Yze, Godfrey, etc... and rebuild via youth. Where's that article Garry? :wallywink
If St Kilda loses again on Sunday which is likely then wait for the deflection onto the Saints and Ross Lyon come Monday night.
Well St Kilda won so there is no excuse to not turning the blowtorch on the Demons unless Garry Lyon proves what a sewrage dwelling rat he is and talks about Chris Judd's absence from the Eagles line up and their two losses in a row as well as the Swans poor form to smoke screen the Demons woes and Neale Daniher's tenure.
This is how it'll probably go tonight. Lyon will go on about Robert Harvey and how magnificent he is and what a important win for the Saints. Then onto the Pies and how they've proven every expert wrong. Next up Glen Archer's upcoming 300th. They'll interview a couple of people (non-Demons) which will fill up the rest of the show. With 5 secs to go Caro will pop up with how good were the Tiges/bad the Dees on Friday night and Lyon will cut her off saying that's all we've got time for tonight bye bye :wallywink.
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LOL to the caller who rang in and said to Garry and co that Melbourne need to do a Richmond and clear out the old deadwood like Holland, Yze, Godfrey, etc... and rebuild via youth. Where's that article Garry? :wallywink
If St Kilda loses again on Sunday which is likely then wait for the deflection onto the Saints and Ross Lyon come Monday night.
Well St Kilda won so there is no excuse to not turning the blowtorch on the Demons unless Garry Lyon proves what a sewrage dwelling rat he is and talks about Chris Judd's absence from the Eagles line up and their two losses in a row as well as the Swans poor form to smoke screen the Demons woes and Neale Daniher's tenure.
This is how it'll probably go tonight. Lyon will go on about Robert Harvey and how magnificent he is and what a important win for the Saints. Then onto the Pies and how they've proven every expert wrong. Next up Glen Archer's upcoming 300th. They'll interview a couple of people (non-Demons) which will fill up the rest of the show. With 5 secs to go Caro will pop up with how good were the Tiges/bad the Dees on Friday night and Lyon will cut her off saying that's all we've got time for tonight bye bye :wallywink.
:rollin
tackle the big issues my @rse
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carro better show some balls that she looks like she has and really give it to gaddy lyon on monday night! she better dril him about how poor the demons list recruiting and attitude has been! go get him carro!
the only thing Caro will be doing is slobbering over her braces :rollin
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They gave Foley a good wrap tonight. Caro went out on a limb and said Axel would be leading our B&F lol. Carey reiterated that Richo is a champion.
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they are all soft
they all could have had a dig at melb for their bad recruiting and team list
they had 1000 more games experience than us and we still pumped them
carro is a soft cow and duck and hutchy just proved how weak they are
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BTG even tackle bigger issues than them.
What about when they discovered that Lingy was taking Fanta ;D :lol
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They all wrote off the Dees performance as not turning up. Heaven forbid we get any credit for the win ::). What excuse will they use next week if the Bombers roll the Dees.
BTG even tackle bigger issues than them.
What about when they discovered that Lingy was taking Fanta ;D :lol
Explains his orange hair lol
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what really gets up my clacker is every journo and commentator saying that game by melbourne was the worst they had ever seen any team play and melb just didnt turn up
ffs
they have short memories, our performance v the cats this is was 1000 times worse!
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what really gets up my clacker is every journo and commentator saying that game by melbourne was the worst they had ever seen any team play and melb just didnt turn up
ffs
they have short memories, our performance v the cats this is was 1000 times worse!
we are the whipping boys :banghead that is why only we get poo
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As a first Caro didn't talk about us last night on Footy Classified but Carey chimed in saying "Richmond has had plenty of early picks, they just haven't chosen the right players" and that Carlton has the worst list in the comp. Worse than Richmond's.
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Nice of Garry to try and steal Terry's idea of those teams finishing 9th get the first draft pick ::)
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Nice of Garry to try and steal Terry's idea of those teams finishing 9th get the first draft pick ::)
I wonder if he'd say that if Melbourne had lost :whistle. A Blues fan ringing him up on radio after that game hoping Carlton tanked the rest of the year started Lyon off.
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Caro says she's going to talk about us later in the show. Probably just a tease again ::). She said we reached a new low yesterday.
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Caro says she's going to talk about us later in the show. Probably just a tease again ::). She said we reached a new low yesterday.
every year there is the poo team that everyone picks on. This year it is us. Whoever brings up the rear next year will be in for the same treatment.
Can't really throw any poo on us that we don't already know.
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Caro says Terry won't be sacked as he has two years to go but will be under pressure next year. He has a poor list. She said he's been the "victim" of some ordinary recruiting over the past 5 years. The Club has changed it's recruiting this year as we already know.
Carey called Wallace the darling of the media and kept saying why Denis Pagan is under the gun and Plough isn't. Caro replied because Pagan has been there 5 years, has only a year to go and the Carlton board don't like Pagan and wanted to get of him last year. Wallace has 2 years left.
Yesterday was our "crunch ball" game. Oops! I'm presuming that's why we had a closed training session. That's two floggings in two years in the "crunch ball" game btw.
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Yesterday was our "crunch ball" game. Oops! I'm presuming that's why we had a closed training session. That's two floggings in two years in the "crunch ball" game btw.
Time for us to give away the idea of crunch ball games. every game should be a crunch ball game.
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We are the only ones that get crunched in crunch games.
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Nice of Garry to try and steal Terry's idea of those teams finishing 9th get the first draft pick ::)
Still don't know why the picks can't be paired up e.g. for rounds 1 and 2.
1 and 32
2 and 31
3 and 30
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15 and 18
16 and 17
And the clubs choose which pair they want based on the depth they perceive in the draft. Last finishing club gets first choice.
Same could be done for rounds 3 and 4. For rounds 5, 6, 7, 8 etc go to the current setup where the bottom side gets the first pick in each round.
It means that the last club gets some advantage, but discourages 'bottoming out'.
Also mystified as to why the NRL is so much more even and harder to tip yet they don't have a draft - just the salary cap. Is it the one-on-one nature of the AFL game and the longer game time that results in more blow outs or is it the AFL discouraging teams from being competitive?
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Also mystified as to why the NRL is so much more even and harder to tip yet they don't have a draft - just the salary cap. Is it the one-on-one nature of the AFL game and the longer game time that results in more blow outs or is it the AFL discouraging teams from being competitive?
NRL is a lower scoring game. It doesn't stop blowouts though. The Storm won 44-0 on the weekend :thumbsup.
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Also mystified as to why the NRL is so much more even and harder to tip yet they don't have a draft - just the salary cap. Is it the one-on-one nature of the AFL game and the longer game time that results in more blow outs or is it the AFL discouraging teams from being competitive?
NRL is a lower scoring game. It doesn't stop blowouts though. The Storm won 44-0 on the weekend :thumbsup.
I was more thinking about Wests Tigers going from nothing to premiers to nothing again in the space of a few years. Brisbane going from premiers to a real chance of missing the finals without Lockyer. Penrith won a few years back and fell off the map. Same goes for Roosters.
Whereas since 2000 in the AFL Brisbane were in the GF 4 years in a row, Collingwood 2, Essendon 2, West Coast 2, Sydney 2.
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Penrith won in 03 finished third in 04
Wests won the flag in 05 had all these awful injuries to key players Brett Hodgson and Benji Marshall as well as losing one of the players to English Super League. They are in contention again this year.
Roosters won in 02 against NZ and were runners up to Penrith 03 and Bulldogs 04.
Perhaps a draft system enables you to have a longer premiership window of opportunity as you have the flexibility of attaining players that cater to specific needs in the AFL whereas NRL due to no draft can enable clubs to spend big and try and buy a premiership for short term success to appease fans.
Perhaps the examples I have given are a fallacy who knows. Either way I agree AFL easier to bet on.
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Penrith won in 03 finished third in 04
Wests won the flag in 05 had all these awful injuries to key players Brett Hodgson and Benji Marshall as well as losing one of the players to English Super League. They are in contention again this year.
Roosters won in 02 against NZ and were runners up to Penrith 03 and Bulldogs 04.
Perhaps a draft system enables you to have a longer premiership window of opportunity as you have the flexibility of attaining players that cater to specific needs in the AFL whereas NRL due to no draft can enable clubs to spend big and try and buy a premiership for short term success to appease fans.
Perhaps the examples I have given are a fallacy who knows. Either way I agree AFL easier to bet on.
Didn't do my research
Thanks for pointing out my errors :thumbsup
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Also mystified as to why the NRL is so much more even and harder to tip yet they don't have a draft - just the salary cap. Is it the one-on-one nature of the AFL game and the longer game time that results in more blow outs or is it the AFL discouraging teams from being competitive?
NRL is a lower scoring game. It doesn't stop blowouts though. The Storm won 44-0 on the weekend :thumbsup.
gotta love Richmond Storm
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Carey wants Caro to talk about us. She said she would later on in the show.
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Carro has some fair points ... glad she is a Richmond person ... not scared to say the facts ... !!! ...
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Carro has some fair points ... glad she is a Richmond person ... not scared to say the facts ... !!! ...
what did she say , i missed the show
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Carro has some fair points ... glad she is a Richmond person ... not scared to say the facts ... !!! ...
what did she say , i missed the show
Absolutely Zilch xXx
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Carro has some fair points ... glad she is a Richmond person ... not scared to say the facts ... !!! ...
what did she say , i missed the show
Absolutely Zilch xXx
footy classifieds at their best ::)
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Caro said earlier tonight on 3aw that she sees no hope ::) but she doesn't blame Terry.
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Caro said earlier tonight on 3aw that she sees no hope ::) but she doesn't blame Terry.
Also said she felt terrible and depressed ;D
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Caro said earlier tonight on 3aw that she sees no hope ::) but she doesn't blame Terry.
Also said she felt terrible and depressed ;D
is that because richmnond have been terrible, or depressed because she has no hope with terry ;D or both!
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Interesting to see what Caro says about this "letter" tonight.
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So what did caro say about whats happening behind the scenes at Punt Rd?
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Caro and the rest of them said Jack poo surprise surprise.
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Caro was gagged, similar to the website disappearing this arvo
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Actually she did say that she hoped Richmond would allow Essendon to wear their traditional guernseys in Round 21. Is she at all aware that the match is an Essendon home game?
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Caro was gagged, similar to the website disappearing this arvo
Wanna explain further jacko
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Caro was gagged, similar to the website disappearing this arvo
If it was that easy then she wouldn't have written all the other negative old-field stuff about the RFC over the years. There was no gag in 2004 and she has no time for Miller then or now.
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Caro was gagged, similar to the website disappearing this arvo
If it was that easy then she wouldn't have written all the other negative old-field stuff about the RFC over the years. There was no gag in 2004 and she has no time for Miller then or now.
:rollin :rollin
They meet regularly
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Caro was gagged, similar to the website disappearing this arvo
If it was that easy then she wouldn't have written all the other negative old-field stuff about the RFC over the years. There was no gag in 2004 and she has no time for Miller then or now.
:rollin :rollin
They meet regularly
I meant in terms of Miller's position at Richmond. As for Greg, he has the philosophy of keeping his friends close and his enemies closer ;).
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I wonder if Caro is going to promise to say something about the RFC then deliver nothing again tonight :whistle
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Duck has us on the radar calling us the pitiful tigers whilst Caro is talking on the Dees.
Lets see what eventuates.
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Sensational "I'd like to kill you" glare from Caro at Hutchy followed by roll eyes at him after he said she was having a go at diving boy (Lloyd).
Doubt she realised she was still on camera.
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'bubbling along' :whistle
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Carey just having a dig at us
and that Terry has to put the acid on the senior players and that
we will be flogged on the track tomorrow. Insipid pathetic pitiful were
some of the terms he used to describe us and that we were the worst team
he had seen in a very very long time including Carlton in the last 5 yrs.
blah blah blah tell us something we don't know.
Caro mentioned that Terry is safe as coach.
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My summary is the same as HT74 :cheers
* Carey said Richmond and Wallace flying under the radar.
* Caro said Plough apparently is going to take training personally tomorrow and flog them on the track. Carey looked into the camera and said they should be made to do a 10-20 km run. It won't hurt them prior to the game this week.
* Carey said our seniors players are pitiful. Need the acid put on them. He hasn't seen a worse side in a long time including Carlton over the last 5 years.
* Caro said Greg Miller met with certain coterie groups last week to tell them we aren't getting Sheedy and Wallace will remain coach.
* Caro also said Gary March up for re-election. Old players still talking to Sheedy. Rumblings behind the scenes. Caro believes Wallace is safe as the club can't/won't pay $1.2 million to pay Terry out.
* Carey then repeated what about the (senior) players. They are shocking. Caro said how are the young players expected to learn from senior players who aren't doing anything.
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Terry has to put the acid on the senior players and that
we will be flogged on the track tomorrow.
That should be interesting to see tomorrow.
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Good to see that ""leaks"" at the RFC still happening.
How would Carey find out who is taking training and what was going to happen at training ::)
I dont have to say anymore. .
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My summary is the same as HT74 :cheers
* Caro said Plough apparently is going to take training personally tomorrow and flog them on the track. Carey looked into the camera and said they should be made to do a 10-20 km run. It won't hurt them prior to the game this week.
so its taken 2 yrs and 18 rnds for terry to take training and try and gain control of teh situation!
move on terry u r a joke
what u r saying is up til now , all ur assistant duds have been taking training personally and u just sit back and take ur pay check!
carey would be a far better coach that wallet
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Terry has to put the acid on the senior players and that
we will be flogged on the track tomorrow.
That should be interesting to see tomorrow.
Well I will just pop in to see for myself.
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Good to see that ""leaks"" at the RFC still happening.
How would Carey find out who is taking training and what was going to happen at training ::)
I dont have to say anymore. .
It was Caro and either she was wrong or Plough changed his plans to make her info wrong.
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i loved Carey's talk about us ...
just play that to the players ... for motivation ... but it willn't work ...
Carey is 200% correct ...
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Good to see that ""leaks"" at the RFC still happening.
How would Carey find out who is taking training and what was going to happen at training ::)
I dont have to say anymore. .
It was Caro and either she was wrong or Plough changed his plans to make her info wrong.
Was talking about Wayne Carey
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Good to see that ""leaks"" at the RFC still happening.
How would Carey find out who is taking training and what was going to happen at training ::)
I dont have to say anymore. .
It was Caro and either she was wrong or Plough changed his plans to make her info wrong.
Was talking about Wayne Carey
I mean Caro mentioned the training info; not Carey. Carey just lambasted our senior players as pitiful and when Caro mentioned about training the next day, Carey said the players should be made to do a 10-20km gut run.
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they are going to talk about Foley tonight
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talked about Foley for literally 30 seconds :banghead
and went on about buddy for a good 2 minutes, where is the justice
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talked about Foley for literally 30 seconds :banghead
and went on about buddy for a good 2 minutes, where is the justice
There's no interest in us as there's no off-field drama.
Loved the look on Caro's face when Hutchy said Richmond's recruiters found one. She rolled her eyes when Hutchy mentioned Greg Miller lol.
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talked about Foley for literally 30 seconds :banghead
and went on about buddy for a good 2 minutes, where is the justice
There's no interest in us as there's no off-field drama.
Loved the look on Caro's face when Hutchy said Richmond's recruiters found one. She rolled her eyes when Hutchy mentioned Greg Miller lol.
the look on her face was priceless, almost as much as Joffas when the Pies lost :gotigers
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Edit:
Garry Lyon said Browny will be in the hot seat tonight on Footy Classified.
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Browny on now
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Took a swipe at Caro and her innuendo regarding tezza presentation earlier in the season ;D
Also high praise for Kane Johnson as captain - said the work and leadership he shows behind the scences that people aren't aware of is outstanding :thumbsup
Confirmed he'd signed a new 2 year incentive based contract - will earn plenty of $$ if he wins the next 8 Brownlows :rollin ;D
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* Browny said Carey's weak, pathetic, etc .. comments were fair to some extent.
* 1-on-1 footy over the past 2 weeks suited us (Sugar, Joel..) but still that's not an excuse for our form before that.
* What's wrong with Richmond? Reason this year - confidence. Injuries and early losses. We thought we'd make the finals but we lost confidence early on.
* Terry's pre-season comments had no bearing on the team. Caro's comments were wrong. Caro talking and spreading innuendo lol. Browny and Sugar never got together to discuss Terry's comments. Caro still sticking to "players" being unhappy but wouldn't name names.
* Sugar not a media person but very good behind the scenes with the kids which people don't see. Browny said Sugar is better than him at it and he's still learning. Not his place to say he wants to be captain.
* Confirmed he's signed a 2-year deal. Believes he has 4-5 years left and his body still feels fresh. Wants to now play continuous footy. Dwelled on the broken leg and missing lots of footy for a while but time to move on. Browny said he's taken a pay cut. Agrees the Club would be silly to give him a 3-year deal or pay him the same as before. Performance based.
* Lids - Best is playing 30-40% on ball using his blistering pace. Doesn't work hard enough to break a tag but he'll learn that as he's only 20. He's blistering speed is his strength like Gary Ablett Jnr.
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Also high praise for Kane Johnson as captain - said the work and leadership he shows behind the scences that people aren't aware of is outstanding :thumbsup
What else is he gonna say WP ? :-*
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Also high praise for Kane Johnson as captain - said the work and leadership he shows behind the scences that people aren't aware of is outstanding :thumbsup
What else is he gonna say WP ? :-*
true brackets :thumbsup
But it was worth it to see the look on that baffoon Lyon's face when Brown said he was happy for Johnson to be captain. Boof Lyon looked like the kid who had his play lunch stolen ;D :nopity
Just like the look on Caro's face when Browny said "why start innuendo"
Priceless :clapping :eyebrow :eyebrow
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Just like the look on Caro's face when Browny said "why start innuendo"
Priceless :clapping :eyebrow :eyebrow
:thatsgold
You could see Browny wanted to say more too but what he said was perfect :lol. Browny said what a lot think :yep. Caro did say at the time there was a meeting of the senior players but tonight she tried to claim she didn't :wallywink.
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You could see Browny wanted to say more too but what he said was perfect :lol. Browny said what a lot think :yep. Caro did say at the time there was a meeting of the senior players but tonight she tried to claim she didn't :wallywink.
She tried to get herself out of it by saying "I never said there was meeting Wayne. I just said the senior players spoke that's all". Went on to say she wouldn't revel who she'd spoken too. I was wondering afterwards who it was she supposedly spoke too. Even wondered if it was Gaspar - personally I doubt it but would love to know who this mystery player or players is/are
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the old cathcers mit sh it herself and started raising her voice and took the stance of one who was protecting her sources
rather than admit to being a RUMOR MONGERING BIKE RACK
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* Confirmed he's signed a 2-year deal. Believes he has 4-5 years left and his body still feels fresh. Wants to now play continuous footy. Dwelled on the broken leg and missing lots of footy for a while but time to move on. Browny said he's taken a pay cut. Agrees the Club would be silly to give him a 3-year deal or pay him the same as before. Performance based.
He repeated this today alongside Plough. After having former "star" players hold the club to ransom over new $$$ contracts, it's refreshing to here Browny be honest enough in terms of length and risks of his new contract. Sure he's still on a very good wicket $$$ wise but good on Browny for getting his contract done without any fuss or charades.
ps. I'm still laughing about his innuendo line back at Caro ;D :clapping
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did anyone tape it?
I missed it :banghead
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did anyone tape it?
I missed it :banghead
There was much else said bluey.
I had a look at old footy classified threads and Caro did mention back in April about Browny in regards to Plough's 2011 presentation.
April 16, 2007
Caro says the senior players Sugar, Bowden, Richo, Browny and others rolled their eyes at the ninth prediction in Wallace's presentation.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4851.msg56414#msg56414
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LOL Archer basically telling Hutchy he lives in the gutter as a journo :thumbsup
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Beat the press should have been called Sodomise the Press tonit,
Bux,Arch and West were stuffing brilliant !
Great work guys :cheers
Benny Gayle has really come a long way too :thumbsup
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caro lives in denial :rollin
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Absolutely nothing but a 10 second spiel on yesterdays game.
Pretty typical from footh classified. :banghead
Wonder if Essendon had won the game how they would have approached it. :scream
As for Archer telling Hutchey he is in the gutter also :thumbsup
Hutchey is a germ with no morals.
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Benny Gayle has really come a long way too :thumbsup
When is he coming back to Richmond?? :pray
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Caro l got it wrong / when was she ever correct
PRICELESS
champion footballers at their best
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I missed footy classified last night. Apparently (according to BF) Caro went to town on us again.
Did anyone here see it and can give us a summary of what was said?
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I missed footy classified last night. Apparently (according to BF) Caro went to town on us again.
Did anyone here see it and can give us a summary of what was said?
Questioned the picks of JON and Hughes and then looked like it was going to be another Miller bake until Hutchy cut her off as usual. Lasted about 15 seconds max.
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I missed footy classified last night. Apparently (according to BF) Caro went to town on us again.
Did anyone here see it and can give us a summary of what was said?
Questioned the picks of JON and Hughes and then looked like it was going to be another Miller bake until Hutchy cut her off as usual. Lasted about 15 seconds max.
Cheers tigeralive :).
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Hutchy will end up getting sacked again if he continues that rubbish.
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So who do you folks think will replace Carey on Footy Classifield this year?
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Would Hirdy be controversial enough ?
What about the fig - pretty good talker.
Need someone a bit out there - I quite like listening to Martin Pike on SEN - informative, grass roots and pretty funny.
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Actually, as a commentator I didn't mind Carey. Liked the way he was fairly pragmatic regardless of the team and had a good knowledge of 'modern' football team/club workings. Now unfortunately, he has blown his media career and you have to wonder what the future holds for him in life itself. I wonder if he has been a mentor to Ben Cousins? :o
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Glen Archer
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Lyon will probably choose Brereton or Hird.
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Glen Archer
Confirmed into todays Sunday Age
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Glen Archer
Confirmed into todays Sunday Age
Nice get Jack.
It'll be interesting to see if Archer has the on-camera persona to ask the hard questions. Always found him quietly spoken when interviewed himself. Miller will be happy to have an ex-Roo still on the show to offset Caro.
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Bump
Back on now (started at 10.30pm). Caro, Lyon, Hutchy and new boy Archer.
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stuff Gazza and Hutchy's pissy girly squabbles are :sleep.
More Arch and dare I say Caro please.
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Hutchy said Eade is more under the pump than Wallace because Plough has the complete support of the RFC board. Eade doesn't appear to have that support at the doggies.
Caro said if Roos was investigated for tanking then us ::) and Carlton should be too after last year.
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Hutchy said Eade is more under the pump than Wallace because Plough has the complete support of the RFC board. Eade doesn't appear to have that support at the doggies.
Caro said if Roos was investigated for tanking then us ::) and Carlton should be too after last year.
Caro should shut up, we dont need any investigations we need to do it again for another 12 months so we can bring some class youngsters into the side.
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Gee whiz, does she honestly believe we were tanking last year.
I wish she was right.
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Made it about 20 mins in and :sleep
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Caro was surprisingly pleased with our effort on Sunday :o. She said supporters would be at least happy they had a go.
Archer said Kingy put too much pressure on himself doing the full page spread in the paper before the game. Okay for a senior player but something like that plays with a younger player's head. He also said it was a bad match-up to put Kingy (174cm) on Jones (190cm). The Roos knew he was having a bad day and just isolated Kingy in the goalsquare.
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Caro was surprisingly pleased with our effort on Sunday :o. She said supporters would be at least happy they had a go.
Archer said Kingy put too much pressure on himself doing the full page spread in the paper before the game. Okay for a senior player but something like that plays with a younger player's head. He also said it was a bad match-up to put Kingy (174cm) on Jones (190cm). The Roos knew he was having a bad day and just isolated Kingy in the goalsquare.
hope caro wasnt speaking on behalf of all supporters. :banghead
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Caro was surprisingly pleased with our effort on Sunday :o. She said supporters would be at least happy they had a go.
Archer said Kingy put too much pressure on himself doing the full page spread in the paper before the game. Okay for a senior player but something like that plays with a younger player's head. He also said it was a bad match-up to put Kingy (174cm) on Jones (190cm). The Roos knew he was having a bad day and just isolated Kingy in the goalsquare.
hope caro wasnt speaking on behalf of all supporters. :banghead
Caro must have been watching a different game or missed our lack of accountability ???.
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Interesting to see if the focus switches to us this week.
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l dont watch that fool on that show its wasted time :lol
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Interesting to see if the focus switches to us this week.
It should be focussed on the ""Solarium One""
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what times it start ? is it worth watching l really cant stand that bitch dribbling about football
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what times it start ? is it worth watching l really cant stand that bitch dribbling about football
10.30.
You'd expect the Ben Holland issue to crop up. Caro defending it against Hutchy and Lyon.
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Am currently on the gold coast, hope its on up here but I wont hold my breath
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l turned that show off as soon as she started bitching about the footy show & Sam
wtf does she think she is :lol she dont like the heat when media is turned on her
sour face cant stand it period or what it writes
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l turned that show off as soon as she started bitching about the footy show & Sam
wtf does she think she is :lol she dont like the heat when media is turned on her
sour face cant stand it period or what it writes
Back on track now TM.
Just a bit on the Holland saga.
THey all seem to be mostly on Richmond's side. :rollin
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THey all seem to be mostly on Richmond's side. :rollin
Pretty much lol. They spent 2 minutes on it reading Casey's comments and that was it.
Caro said Dutchy was acting like a "whinging, whining, useless footballer" over this.
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Caro said can we talk about Richmond for a moment. They were woeful.
Archer said Richmond has had a poor culture for a long time. Even when he played Richmond players were a touch individualistic.
They replayed David King's aftermatch interview on 3aw. Basically he said there's no point moving around senior players to new positions. They need to perform where they have for most of their career. He'd rather spend time playing Matty White than a senior player. Caro said he was referring to Joel Bowden. Also through Browny in there. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Caro also said Miller should have sold his shares long ago. He's meant to be a Tiger who promised he'd fix the club in 5 years. It's now 6 and Richmond is heading for another wooden spoon or thereabouts. March told them on Sunday Miller may be leaving the board.
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They replayed David King's aftermatch interview on 3aw. Basically he said there's no point moving around senior players to new positions. They need to perform where they have for most of their career. He'd rather spend time playing Matty White than a senior player. Caro said he was referring to Joel Bowden. Also through Browny in there. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Joel kicked 4 against the Eagles before doing his collarbone and he played forward a few times in 2001 (before being banished for lairising) so playing forward isn't a new trick for Joel ???.
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Archer said Richmond has had a poor culture for a long time. Even when he played Richmond players were a touch individualistic
Here hear.
The self preservationists are the real culprits.
If it was WW2 you would give them a white flower.
Dogs.
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Wasn't it a white feather?
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Wasn't it a white feather?
ur right.
we can give our ladies one of each
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l turned that show off as soon as she started bitching about the footy show & Sam
wtf does she think she is :lol she dont like the heat when media is turned on her
sour face cant stand it period or what it writes
Back on track now TM.
Just a bit on the Holland saga.
THey all seem to be mostly on Richmond's side. :rollin
that is funny hey :lol as if anyone gunna side with Holland cause it would open a can of worms :shh
Every current & ex Richmond employee at the time will be saying it didnot happen & so will the supporters for fear of repercussions on the club by the AFL
Dont worry Holland would be payed off under the carpet, no-one will here about it. Casey was probably calling his bluff to see if he would lodge a writ & now that he knows he would go through with it & even cutting his own neck then he has showed he is prepared to do it :lol
Why else would a person do such a thing if it was not true. It costs money to lodge any document to the courts, so l cant see him throwing money away for nothing. You think Holland is the only player from that era offered under the table ;D now come-on the club had better players than him at the time on some big money l might add. :lol Some players take paycuts in wages but take the rest under the table its common practice, Geelong will be doing it to keep all there players together to try create some history for themselves just like Brisbane & the geelong players are openly talking about it now.
Also might explain the way Richmond has dumped some of its players who gave alot to the club only to be screwed & forced into retirement
l got told over the phone what Caro said about Holland after l switched her off what a disgrace to say that, :lol & she complained what Sam Newman & the footy show had said about her. l bet she be ringing Ben Holland the next morning with a apology :lol
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Remember Carlton & Jack Elliott :lol said no-one was payed under the table with Fraser Brown they all denied it till crunchtime
Look at the repercussions from that :rollin old honest jack ;D
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I wonder if Caro will bring the topic of Richmond up on tonight's show :whistle.
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Caro said Archer's comments last week about an individualistic selfish culture stung the club and in particular a few players (no names). It stung more than what Mike or she wrote although she tried to back away from her comments saying they were more about the culture of the club and as the worse perfroming club in the past 25 years something has to be wrong with the culture. BT's spray on MMM also stung with him saying a selfish culture went through the club even up to some board members.
Lyon apparently wrote an article 5 years ago about moving Richo (and Nick Riewoldt) to the wing so they were patting themselves on the back over that. Lyon saying you can't double team Richo or anyone for that matter on the wing. He's a special 33 year old so no probs fitness wise.
They showed some vision from the game of the cubs - Edwards, Jack, Patto, Thursty and Moore. Lyon said it's better to win or lose with kids than just going through the same motions. Praised Richo and Tambling's second half.
Coaches votes:
10 Sugar
7 Richo
7 Foley
3 Simmo
3 McMahon
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And here I am thinking it was all due to some posters here on OER :shh
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The 3rd week in a row Caro won't be able to bag the club lol
The Swans are in the pooh though for having 19 men on the field that lead to the final drawing point.
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The Swans are in the pooh though for having 19 men on the field that lead to the final drawing point.
If we didn't know it already but Adrian Anderson is an imbecile :lol.
Anderson: The extra player wasn't involved in the play.
Russell: But Jolly handballed the ball.
Anderson: Yeah but he wasn't the extra player. White was.
Russell: But Jolly was the one who was meant to come off.
Anderson: We don't know that.
:stupid
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any team in any league found with a extra player on the ground, the 4 points should be awarded to the other team
interchanges are made one on & one off its so simple. The Roos will take legal action for the points as Brayshaw wont let it go.
l beleive the Kangaroos should be awarded them 4 points
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any team in any league found with a extra player on the ground, the 4 points should be awarded to the other team
interchanges are made one on & one off its so simple. The Roos will take legal action for the points as Brayshaw wont let it go.
l beleive the Kangaroos should be awarded them 4 points
TM, this is a watershed moment. I agree with you 110%. :thumbsup
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any team in any league found with a extra player on the ground, the 4 points should be awarded to the other team
interchanges are made one on & one off its so simple. The Roos will take legal action for the points as Brayshaw wont let it go.
l beleive the Kangaroos should be awarded them 4 points
Agree TM especially as the Swan who was meant to be off was involved in the play.
Was Paul Roos today trying to make out they we're disadvantaged having an extra man ??? lol
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Mark Harvey, almost felt sorry for him. Looked like he was about to pull a nick reiwvoldt and have a tear.
Its not his fault his club is the most selfish bunch of idiots in the AFL......
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Lyon said he's going to get stuck into a Tiger saying he's lucky to be playing in round 8.
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Lyon said he's going to get stuck into a Tiger saying he's lucky to be playing in round 8.
Get off it Gaddy, show the next 3 seconds of when the decision is paid and you can see McGuane's disappointed he was the ball had come out and he was holding the man. ::)
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For those that didn't see FC, Lyon said McGuane should have got a week for rough conduct in tackling Riewoldt to the ground as Lyon reckons Lukey knew the ball was loose. If Riewoldt had hit his head everyone would have been up in arms.
::)
Archer and Hutchy both disagreed saying the vision shows the ball had spilled behind Luke so he couldn't see it was loose.
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Mark Harvey, almost felt sorry for him. Looked like he was about to pull a nick reiwvoldt and have a tear.
Its not his fault his club is the most selfish bunch of idiots in the AFL......
Harvey looked a shattered man. Very Spud 2004 like. He mentioned the Perth media a few times so they much be really getting to him. I couldn't believe he said Solomon has been excellent but I guess he's covering his own mistakes. They are in a shocking state with that old list and the draft concessions for the new teams are only going to make the rebuilding task long and painful.
On a different topic, Richo got the 9 votes from the coaches. Milne 8, Simmo 7, Browny 4 and Robert Harvey 2. Let's hope the umps see it that way.
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Actually Soloman is having a great season :thumbsup ;)
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Solomon - which team was it that tried to sign him up a few years ago - in London ....ummmm ?
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Good bloke is ""Solly" Soloman :thumbsup
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Solomon - which team was it that tried to sign him up a few years ago - in London ....ummmm ?
Thank god Rama or whoever it was at Essendon talked him out of it.
2 good games don't make a good year either :whistle. I'll give him a tick though for knocking out Tarrant lol.
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Solomon - which team was it that tried to sign him up a few years ago - in London ....ummmm ?
Thank god Rama or whoever it was at Essendon talked him out of it.
2 good games don't make a good year either :whistle. I'll give him a tick though for knocking out Tarrant lol.
You make me laugh, play TWO GOOD games at RFC and you will guaranteed a game for the next 3 months.
Take Schulz and McMahon for instance, lol WRONG. Schulz hasnt played any good games this year. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Solomon - which team was it that tried to sign him up a few years ago - in London ....ummmm ?
Thank god Rama or whoever it was at Essendon talked him out of it.
2 good games don't make a good year either :whistle. I'll give him a tick though for knocking out Tarrant lol.
You make me laugh, play TWO GOOD games at RFC and you will guaranteed a game for the next 3 months.
Take Schulz and McMahon for instance, lol WRONG. Schulz hasnt played any good games this year. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Against North, Freo and the Dogs Sarge was good. Been ordinary the last 2 weeks. He's also played in side that's actually won a game.
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why is everyone against solly
he has been freoa best player this yr, imo better than pavlova, cos solly has played for the team
we need tough nuts like him
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why is everyone against solly
he has been freoa best player this yr, imo better than pavlova, cos solly has played for the team
we need tough nuts like him
thats right X Solly is playing well & is doing the tuff stuff,
its the highly paid players like Tarrant, Carrs, Pavlova, & a heap of other duds letting them down
anyway stuff the dockers let them sink ;D
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some people are so one eyed they cant acknowledge opposition players .
Dean Soloman is similar to Richo, plays with his heart on his sleeve and gives 100% everytime he plays.
They are mates as well
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thats true they are very good mates Richo & Solly :thumbsup
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when solly was playing bad at the bombers, he was plagued with injuries, we should have made that play for him and we missed out when he didnt come.
if he was playing 4 us v the saints and doggies , we would have ha 2 more wins under our belt
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when solly was playing bad at the bombers, he was plagued with injuries, we should have made that play for him and we missed out when he didnt come.
if he was playing 4 us v the saints and doggies , we would have ha 2 more wins under our belt
Me agreeing with X, lol
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some people are so one eyed they cant acknowledge opposition players .
Dean Soloman is similar to Richo, plays with his heart on his sleeve and gives 100% everytime he plays.
They are mates as well
Woosh
Thats all your credibility just being flushed fown the toilet.
One is a finished hack, the other is an absolute champion
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some people are so one eyed they cant acknowledge opposition players .
Dean Soloman is similar to Richo, plays with his heart on his sleeve and gives 100% everytime he plays.
They are mates as well
Woosh
Thats all your credibility just being flushed fown the toilet.
One is a finished hack, the other is an absolute champion
Soloman a hack,? wouldnt think so.
That just shows how little you understand about football Blaisee. BIG ZERO.
Now wasnt it your mate Greg Miller who flew to London to try an get him 2-3 years ago ? Or am I just dreaming or telling liars as you put it again ::)
Dean has played very well this season. One of the very few geniune tough players in the game, was excellent against the Cats 2 weeks ago.
Pitty he isnt playing for us.
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some people are so one eyed they cant acknowledge opposition players .
Dean Soloman is similar to Richo, plays with his heart on his sleeve and gives 100% everytime he plays.
They are mates as well
Woosh
Thats all your credibility just being flushed fown the toilet.
One is a finished hack, the other is an absolute champion
Now thats what I call a harpic moment! Anyway enough of the toilet humour. :lol Solomon is a great player if you want someone who gives away 50 metre penalties on a regular basis. Undisciplined, cranky and slow. Since the retirement of Chris Johnson, he is sure to get the "Mr Happy" award for 2008.
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some people are so one eyed they cant acknowledge opposition players .
Dean Soloman is similar to Richo, plays with his heart on his sleeve and gives 100% everytime he plays.
They are mates as well
Woosh
Thats all your credibility just being flushed fown the toilet.
One is a finished hack, the other is an absolute champion
Now thats what I call a harpic moment! Anyway enough of the toilet humour. :lol Solomon is a great player if you want someone who gives away 50 metre penalties on a regular basis. Undisciplined, cranky and slow. Since the retirement of Chris Johnson, he is sure to get the "Mr Happy" award for 2008.
You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
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didnt look too slow against the cats the other week, you should get you TV checked out
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
:rollin
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
Facts of the matter they had been chasing Soloman up to he went to Fremantle :thumbsup
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
:rollin
dont know why you would be laughing for, dont find it funny
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
:rollin
dont know why you would be laughing for, dont find it funny
Won't do it again, Jack
till next time :-)
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didnt look too slow against the cats the other week, you should get you TV checked out
Well as Meatloaf would say...."Two out of three ain't bad!" :lol
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You would of loved him at Punt Road. Miller and Wallace well hell bent on getting him
Wallace wasn't at Richmond when they went after Solomon.
FF dispatches that juicy half-volley through the covers for 4 :lol.
If we had Solomon we'd have supporters screaming that a 28 year old has-been is taking up a spot in the side that should go to a youngster :whistle.
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If we had Solomon we'd have supporters screaming that a 28 year old has-been is taking up a spot in the side that should go to a youngster :whistle.
Kent Kingsley comes to mind. Remember Wallace being bagged for getting him. But suddenly getting an old Solomon would be ok by the same ppl. Go figure.
Not Footy Classified but something from On the Couch which amused me.
Mike Sheahan came home from WA flying Pratt Air.
Be interesting the articles Mike comes up with on the Blues this year.
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One is a finished hack, the other is an absolute champion
Soloman a hack,? wouldnt think so.
That just shows how little you understand about football Blaisee. BIG ZERO.
Now wasnt it your mate Greg Miller who flew to London to try an get him 2-3 years ago ? Or am I just dreaming or telling liars as you put it again ::)
Dean has played very well this season. One of the very few geniune tough players in the game, was excellent against the Cats 2 weeks ago.
Pitty he isnt playing for us.
Solomon has been ordinary for a number of years. We actually chased him in Millers first year - end of 2003, nearly 5 years ago. We chased him on the back of a few years of good form and demonstrated hardness, all attributes our club lacked and needed going forward. Since he knocked us back he has become much less effective and much more undisciplined, only turning it around slightly last year for his new team. His stats in the years since we chased him:
Disp Ave Tack Ave Free Diff
2004 399 17.3 88 3.8 -16
2005 192 12 45 2.8 -4
2006 243 12.1 48 2.4 -21
2007 316 15.8 108 5.4 +11
His well publicised battles with on-field discipline and attitude are the last thing our young team needed or would have benefited from, had we been successful in getting him in '03. I'm glad we didn't get him then and I doubt even more that we have chased him since, especially at the price he would have had on his head.
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He probably has more disposals than half our team.
why dont you do Schulz averages disposals , yeah , I know why you wouldnt ?? Single digits, lol
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He probably has more disposals than half our team.
why dont you do Schulz averages disposals , yeah , I know why you wouldnt ?? Single digits, lol
Apples to apples Jack. Schulz is a KPP, Solomon is a flanker/midfielder. I'm happy to spend a bit of time and compare him to our flankers/midfielders if you like, especially the ones that would be on match payments comparable to his, but somehow I don't think you want me to do that. He WAS a good footballer, he is much less so now and has been that way for a few years.
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He probably has more disposals than half our team.
why dont you do Schulz averages disposals , yeah , I know why you wouldnt ?? Single digits, lol
Apples to apples Jack. Schulz is a KPP, Solomon is a flanker/midfielder. I'm happy to spend a bit of time and compare him to our flankers/midfielders if you like, especially the ones that would be on match payments comparable to his, but somehow I don't think you want me to do that. He WAS a good footballer, he is much less so now and has been that way for a few years.
Schulz isnt a AFL footballer
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He probably has more disposals than half our team.
why dont you do Schulz averages disposals , yeah , I know why you wouldnt ?? Single digits, lol
Schulz is averaging 13.9 disposals this year. Solomon has 15.2. 15 Tigers average more disposals than Solomon.
Solomon's disposal stats this year:
Coll'wood 13 L
Hawthorn DNP L
West Coast DNP W
Adelaide 7 L
Richmond 14 L
Geelong 21 L
Melbourne 21 L
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:shh
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He probably has more disposals than half our team.
why dont you do Schulz averages disposals , yeah , I know why you wouldnt ?? Single digits, lol
Schulz is averaging 13.9 disposals this year. Solomon has 15.2. 15 Tigers average more disposals than Solomon.
Solomon's disposal stats this year:
Coll'wood 13 L
Hawthorn DNP L
West Coast DNP W
Adelaide 7 L
Richmond 14 L
Geelong 21 L
Melbourne 21 L
Jeez, in their only win he didn't play - he plays, they lose :rollin
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:shh
:shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :o
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Geez Hutchy's a tool lol.
Hutchy - "The dream time forward line - the one Richmond could have had".
Hey Hutchy if we had drafted Pavlich then we wouldn't have finished bottom 3 in 2004 :wallywink.
Btw is Caro unusually very pro-Richmond tonight? She couldn't wait to talk about Foley.
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Geez Hutchy's a tool lol.
Hutchy - "The dream time forward line - the one Richmond could have had".
Hey Hutchy if we had drafted Pavlich then we wouldn't have finished bottom 3 in 2004 :wallywink.
Btw is Caro unusually very pro-Richmond tonight? She couldn't wait to talk about Foley.
yes we would cause 1 player dont make a side
If we cant deliver the ball to Richo ;D so hows Pavlich going to do any better
we finish down bottom regardless cause bad skills is whats killing us & same will happen this year
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Btw is Caro unusually very pro-Richmond tonight? She couldn't wait to talk about Foley.
Caro is well and truly on the Richmond bandwagon at the moment. The day after the Saints game she was on 3aw talking up the tiges bigtime and sticking it up Walls and Shaw who hate Richmond.
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The Coaches' votes (Wallace and Knights) from the weekend:
Foley 10
Lids 8
Richo 4
Bowden 3
Brown 3
Richo is now 4th overall on 38 votes just seven behind Buddy.
No mention of our game on Footy Classified last night apart from Caro saying once again our clash jumper is awful.
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Lyon and Caro said tonight Richo is looking exhausted and we're seeing the first signs of wear and tear from him trying to do everything from playing on the wing. They still think he is playing well though.
Caro reckons we see Richo playing for 2-3 more years. Money isn't an issue as he's paid far less than the likes of say Dal Santo.
Lids got 4 votes from the coaches (Roos and Plough).
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gee there is so much to like about mick malthouse as a coach.
he was discussing about why the fact the demons or any club really gets its self up to play at its best against the pies.
he said any club should get the same motivation whether its port, freo, blues or collingwood.
i just get this "crunch game" thing of TW's out of my head. what a childish thing it is really..
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We got a quick mention on tonight's show
Caro said St Kilda like Richmond is a hard club to come to unless you embrace the culture.
Lyon showed a few clips of Tivs running into trouble because he has no right foot and said he must have played his last game. Caro said to be fair he wasn't alone on the weekend.
Caro said Riewoldt was dropped because he hadn't kicked a goal in 4 games.
Lyon asked why Richo who was leaving Rutten for dead was moved to the wing after half-time. Hutchy said we he has been playing well on the wing.
Hutchy said it was a devestating loss because we should have had the game won at half-time.
Archer said Caro was showing bias by not mentioning Richo being kicked out of a nightclub yet had a big go at Buddy.
Caro said there's too many old players not performing - Tivs, Petts, Joel wasn't that good either, McMahon and Polak.
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What a bunch of genius' on Footy Classified.
Next week Garry and co will show us how to reinvent the wheel.
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Coaches votes (Wallace and Bailey):
Richo 10
Lids 7
Tuck 4
Browny 3
McLean 3
Not much on us. Talked about us winning thanks to Richo and Caro at the end said Richmond and Melbourne should always be fixtured at the 'G. Apparently some fans didn't get into the Dome until halfway through the first quarter even though only 27,000 turned up.
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Coming up later on the show tonight:
"Is the pressure building on the Richmond coach?"
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Hutchy put up a graph of winning records of the past 5 Richmond coaches - Northey 50%, Walls 48%, Geish 51%, Spud 40% and Wallace 36%.
Caro said of course Terry is under pressure especially if Richmond don't win another game for the year. However he should stay on, as after many years of poor recruiting including under Danny, the club finally realised and recognised they had to bottom out so of course he's going to have a worse record than the others.
Caro said the Carlton loss was really disappointing.
Hutchy said it was disaster as we were expected to win.
Archer then turned to Hutchy and said did you really think Carlton had no chance against Richmond. Of course Carlton was going to win. It's typical Richmond - win a game or two and get everyone excited and then dish up crap like that. Caro said it's known you don't like Richmond and Archer pretty much said as much.
Lyon said the 36% depends on whether it is 36% and going up or 36% and going down. He believes Richmond has genuinely improved this year. We would need to improve again next year to show we are heading in the right direction.
Hutchy said Carlton were a basket case 18 months ago and have gone past and spoiled Richmond's big day. Caro replied they got Judd and the past few first round picks since then. Archer said Richmond could have got Judd if they offered enough.
They then asked Caro what's wrong with Richmond and she said well there's a lot. Archer chipped in with there's a 100 things wrong, have we got an hour. Lyon then said you don't asked Caro about Richmond before a break and with Neil Craig coming on and then they cut to the ad break.
Kel Moore with 4 votes was the only Tiger to get votes from the coaches.
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I think Jackstar and Archer should go out for dinner. They would have a great old time but I think they would each find it hard to get a word in. Maybe it could be like that movie "50 first dates" where they each suffer from short term memory loss and end up having the same dinner over and over again. :lol
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I think Jackstar and Archer should go out for dinner. They would have a great old time but I think they would each find it hard to get a word in. Maybe it could be like that movie "50 first dates" where they each suffer from short term memory loss and end up having the same dinner over and over again. :lol
Lunch actually ;)
Good bloke is Arch :thumbsup
Doesnt mince with words.
Interesting everytime he played against the tiges, he reckons the players would stay sideways, lol
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
You are a fool Moi, you think you know me but really you dont. :lol
Guess what, I used to have lunch at Don Camillos every day in West Melbourne.
Arch probably lunched there twice a week.
Your mate Greg Miller was a regular there as well,.
And I dont eat Fish N Chips for lunch like you would. :lol
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I think Jackstar and Archer should go out for dinner. They would have a great old time but I think they would each find it hard to get a word in. Maybe it could be like that movie "50 first dates" where they each suffer from short term memory loss and end up having the same dinner over and over again. :lol
Lunch actually ;)
Good bloke is Arch :thumbsup
Doesnt mince with words.
Interesting everytime he played against the tiges, he reckons the players would stay sideways, lol
considering you were there at the time, do you feel responsible?
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
You are a fool Moi, you think you know me but really you dont. :lol
Guess what, I used to have lunch at Don Camillos every day in West Melbourne.
Arch probably lunched there twice a week.
Your mate Greg Miller was a regular there as well,.
And I dont eat Fish N Chips for lunch like you would. :lol
They eat at Gravitate in Dryburgh Street.
And sometimes I go in and order my lunch when a group of them come in as well.
Doesn't mean I have lunch with them lol
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Caro said it's known you don't like Richmond and Archer pretty much said as much.
Why are we so hated?
Archer, Buckley, Grant Thomas....
It's obviously not because of recent success.
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A truer word has never been said about Richmond (by Arch). He is absolutely on the money. We are stuck in mediocrity and until we accept that and move forward (which I think we are starting to do) we will be ok.
Every time we are expected to win and Terry or Choco come out and say were ready to match it with the best we get humiliated.
We are seriously overrated and until this group of players that are 21 or under get to 24 we are going to struggle so 2011 is probably a reality. But least we are building a decent list so once we get to the eight we can stay there for a while and enjoy the fruits.
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A truer word has never been said about Richmond (by Arch). He is absolutely on the money. We are stuck in mediocrity and until we accept that and move forward (which I think we are starting to do) we will be ok.
Every time we are expected to win and Terry or Choco come out and say were ready to match it with the best we get humiliated.
We are seriously overrated and until this group of players that are 21 or under get to 24 we are going to struggle so 2011 is probably a reality. But least we are building a decent list so once we get to the eight we can stay there for a while and enjoy the fruits.
Thank you
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
You are a fool Moi, you think you know me but really you dont. :lol
Guess what, I used to have lunch at Don Camillos every day in West Melbourne.
Arch probably lunched there twice a week.
Your mate Greg Miller was a regular there as well,.
And I dont eat Fish N Chips for lunch like you would. :lol
They eat at Gravitate in Dryburgh Street.
And sometimes I go in and order my lunch when a group of them come in as well.
Doesn't mean I have lunch with them lol
Why do i need to explain myself to a nothing person like you Moi :banghead
I actually did have lunch with the north boys years ago on most fridays.
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
You are a fool Moi, you think you know me but really you dont. :lol
Guess what, I used to have lunch at Don Camillos every day in West Melbourne.
Arch probably lunched there twice a week.
Your mate Greg Miller was a regular there as well,.
And I dont eat Fish N Chips for lunch like you would. :lol
They eat at Gravitate in Dryburgh Street.
And sometimes I go in and order my lunch when a group of them come in as well.
Doesn't mean I have lunch with them lol
Why do i need to explain myself to a nothing person like you Moi :banghead
I actually did have lunch with the north boys years ago on most fridays.
Just because you have had some minor role in a couple of football clubs does not make you better than the rest of us.
I don't know you but God you come across as a pratt sometimes.
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Lunch actually ;)
What he was in the same fisn'n'chip shop as you buying his chips :rollin
You're full of it lol
:sleep
no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
Darn it, I was rather hoping I had annoyed him enough that he meant me :lol
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A truer word has never been said about Richmond (by Arch). He is absolutely on the money. We are stuck in mediocrity and until we accept that and move forward (which I think we are starting to do) we will be ok.
Every time we are expected to win and Terry or Choco come out and say were ready to match it with the best we get humiliated.
We are seriously overrated and until this group of players that are 21 or under get to 24 we are going to struggle so 2011 is probably a reality. But least we are building a decent list so once we get to the eight we can stay there for a while and enjoy the fruits.
Thank you
What are you saying thank you for lol
Do you really think he was talking just about this era?
I think he's had contempt for the Tiges for a long time.
But because we're rebuilding, he makes his ill-informed snide comments against young kids who weren't a part of the culture of the past.
They will soon wipe that smirk off his smug face pretty soon me thinks, and hopefully against the Kangas if they're still in business. Hopefully they won't be :thumbsup
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EVERYBODY !
STFU !!!!!
ALL OF U.
Coming here now is like wading ur way thru a shi t fight to find
a thread that one can enjoy.
Jak - stop baiting them mate.
It's great here now the midget has been sent to the lions....let's keep it that way.
Ur of the forsaken family,FFS !
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:sleep
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A truer word has never been said about Richmond (by Arch). He is absolutely on the money. We are stuck in mediocrity and until we accept that and move forward (which I think we are starting to do) we will be ok.
Every time we are expected to win and Terry or Choco come out and say were ready to match it with the best we get humiliated.
We are seriously overrated and until this group of players that are 21 or under get to 24 we are going to struggle so 2011 is probably a reality. But least we are building a decent list so once we get to the eight we can stay there for a while and enjoy the fruits.
Thank you
What are you saying thank you for lol
Do you really think he was talking just about this era?
I think he's had contempt for the Tiges for a long time.
But because we're rebuilding, he makes his ill-informed snide comments against young kids who weren't a part of the culture of the past.
They will soon wipe that smirk off his smug face pretty soon me thinks, and hopefully against the Kangas if they're still in business. Hopefully they won't be :thumbsup
Hey Moi, we have have been rebuilding for 26 years. :lol ( you are funny Moi)
Must be multi storey. :lol
Something you fail to realise and Glen Archer is correct, we have been weak as pee and soft for a long long time.
Others clubs know this, pitty our supporters like you dont realise this.
Thats why we won the spoon last year :banghead
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To quote someone who seems to know what he's talking about
EVERYBODY !
STFU !!!!!
ALL OF U.
:rollin
Edit: removed other posters' quotes.
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Back to the topic people ::) :banghead
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
either or 6 of 1
your probably husband and wife judging on the dribble that comes out of your mouthes
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
either or 6 of 1
your probably husband and wife judging on the dribble that comes out of your mouthes
...and you need to learn how to spell. It's "mouths" (no e)
I bet you drive a truck for a living.
:sleep
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
either or 6 of 1
your probably husband and wife judging on the dribble that comes out of your mouthes
...and you need to learn how to spell. It's "mouths" (no e)
I bet you drive a truck for a living.
:sleep
how did you guess??
its better than being unemployed like im sure you are, mr frankston boy
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
either or 6 of 1
your probably husband and wife judging on the dribble that comes out of your mouthes
...and you need to learn how to spell. It's "mouths" (no e)
I bet you drive a truck for a living.
:sleep
I have a mate who drives/owns a truck, clears $3500 a week,
wouldnt be knocking him
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I have a mate who drives/owns a truck, clears $3500 a week,
wouldnt be knocking him
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Yes but half of that goes on amphetamines!! Bet his inursnace premiums r though the roof. :thumbsup
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I have a mate who drives/owns a truck, clears $3500 a week,
wouldnt be knocking him
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Yes but half of that goes on amphetamines!! Bet his inursnace premiums r though the roof. :thumbsup
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Ahh He is a local not interstate. Starts at 5am finish by 5pm
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no one wants to read your crap anymore.
move on amigo
If it's ok with you I'll keep on posting :rollin
I think he was talking to me.
Silly little man can't even post his reply in the right place.
:lol
either or 6 of 1
your probably husband and wife judging on the dribble that comes out of your mouthes
...and you need to learn how to spell. It's "mouths" (no e)
I bet you drive a truck for a living.
:sleep
I have a mate who drives/owns a truck, clears $3500 a week,
wouldnt be knocking him
My brother owns a tip truck and some sort of machine that digs holes.
He owns a 50 sq house on half a hill in Emerald.
Rich, but still an uneducated idiot.
:rollin
(idiot was not the word I used)
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Back to the topic
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Back to the topic
The topic?
Footy Classified?
Uneducated idiots is right on topic.
:rollin
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Back to the topic
The topic?
Footy Classified?
Uneducated idiots is right on topic.
:rollin
Might as well include most here then :lol
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Back to the topic
The topic?
Footy Classified?
Uneducated idiots is right on topic.
:rollin
Might as well include most here then :lol
Hey Jack, speak for yourself! I went to finishing school. When I left the school grounds on the last day, the principal screamed out..."YOU'RE FINISHED!!" Can't get a better endorsement than that! :thumbsup
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Archer's been doing it all year. Said a couple of weeks back that when you apply pressure, Richmond forget their game plan and just start playing for stats. The players only care about self preservation.
Anyone disagree with him?
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Coaches' votes from Wallace and Worsfold:
Foley 9
Riewoldt 8
Cotchin 4
Brown 4
Cox 3
All positive towards Richmond tonight. Hutchy pumping up Lyon for saying Jack should've been playing all along instead of being dropped back to the VFL. Lyon said the club will feel vindicated by the decision as he's come back and delivered a performance like that. They then showed highlights of Jack - a few goals, contested marks and the dish off to Browny for a goal. Caro said cousin Nick told her that apart from St Kilda games he watches Jack play so they must be close and Nick probably has given Jack some advice.
Archer was quiet throughout the Richmond segment. He was too busy waiting to have a sook about how Tredrea bowed to the crowd after a goal when Port flogged North in the PF last year (Archer's last game) and how on the weekend was Karma when Tredrea missed what could have been the winning goal.
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Garry Lyon said it has taken a while for Riewoldt to come on. It's only his 2nd year. ???
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Garry Lyon said it has taken a while for Riewoldt to come on. It's only his 2nd year. ???
Gary been sitting next too Caro for too long he must be stressing
why aint you out kicking the footy in the park ;D
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Bowden of course was the first topic tonight:
Lyon said they had a poll 8 weeks ago on the rushing a behind issue and claimed everyone then said it'll never happen and it just has. Hutchy then turned to Lyon and said when were you Nostradamus.
Lyon then said what stops a team doing it 8 times. Caro said that'll never happen and the game has a way of sorting itself out. Coaches of the attacking would get smarter and a more experienced team wouldn't have allowed Joel so much time. Archer hopes the AFL doesn't bring in a rule.
Caro also said Mike Sheahan claimed only Richmond supporters would have enjoyed what Joel did but she was at the game and Richmond supporters where she was didn't. They were flat as when the siren went. Lyon said he found that hard to believe. All Tiger fans he heard loved it and the fact Richmond won by 4 points over Essendon.
Hutchy said he's a Richmond fan and thinks we can make the Eight. We're getting more depth in the midfield. They then showed highlights of Browny's 3 goals in the last quarter. Browny apparently copped a bake a 3/4 time from Wallace for not chasing a couple of times in the 3rd quarter that started Essendon's run-on.
The coaches votes were (Wallace and Knights):
Foley 9
Brown 7
Watson 6
There was another Tiger but they were running late and just flicked through all the votes from the 8 games.
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I think it was Morton next but not sure it went pretty quick
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The 3rd Richmond player was Deledio. ;)
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The 3rd Richmond player was Deledio. ;)
Ta FF :thumbsup
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the nixon archer exchange was the highlight of the night. nixon on a tko for mine - absolutely made archer look stupid. archer needs to be able to stick up for himself otherwise he should leave the show.
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the nixon archer exchange was the highlight of the night. nixon on a tko for mine - absolutely made archer look stupid. archer needs to be able to stick up for himself otherwise he should leave the show.
hahaha how dumb did he look.
he was left with nothing to say
i like arch but he has no media skills whatsoever
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Dont know who Caro was talking for, all the Richmond supporters were jumping around like lunatics after the game singing the song while the bombers left very quitely & quickly. She represents herself not the supporters :lol maybe she was jammed in a media box with bomber supporters :lol
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the nixon archer exchange was the highlight of the night. nixon on a tko for mine - absolutely made archer look stupid. archer needs to be able to stick up for himself otherwise he should leave the show.
hahaha how dumb did he look.
he was left with nothing to say
i like arch but he has no media skills whatsoever
According to one of the papers tomorrow, Archer held his tongue after Nixon had said that until the ad break and then let loose and Lyon and Hutchy had to split them up :eyebrow.
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the nixon archer exchange was the highlight of the night. nixon on a tko for mine - absolutely made archer look stupid. archer needs to be able to stick up for himself otherwise he should leave the show.
hahaha how dumb did he look.
he was left with nothing to say
i like arch but he has no media skills whatsoever
According to one of the papers tomorrow, Archer held his tongue after Nixon had said that until the ad break and then let loose and Lyon and Hutchy had to split them up :eyebrow.
Lol. Gold. :cheers
Arch got owned. As a player manager Nixon is right in the media and can say what he wants. :thumbsup
Lol at Archer being completely flogged by Nixon. It was made pretty clear by Caro it was not a normal Footy Classified on Monday night on Sports today 3AW tonight. ;D ;)
Basically anything against Arch makes me :D.
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Bump. Coming on now.
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Tigers copping a bagging, from Caro
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Caro stating the obvious, something really wrong at this footy club, lol
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Caro stating the obvious, something really wrong at this footy club, lol
Certainly is. Too many wankers lookiing after their own interests.
Hey, do you get your job back under Campbell/Sheeds?
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yep she got them chompers working tonight, wish she just blurt it all out :lol ;D
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Hutchy said all the fallout to Richmond's loss to come at the start of the show.
Caro said we were pathetic and the senior players let the team down again - Brown, Richo, McMahon. Lyon mentioned and showed vision of the skill errors and poor decision making.
Archer said it's nothing new. We tease like we have for the last 15 years. We had some momentum and then we sack Miller. Clubs like Richmond need everything to go right and although it's off-field it can upset the applecart.
Caro said to Archer if she said that about another club you would laugh at her. Something seriously wrong with that group/club. Archer said to Caro well you know the inside outs of Richmond and Caro said she didn't.
Hutchy was more forgiving. He said there's been improvement this year. Everyone has a bad game. An aberration so let's not get carried away here. Thought we hadn't allowed the forward line to settle the past couple of weeks with Hughes out as well as Schulz.
Caro said we've performed poorly in two big games when finals were on the line - Carlton and Adelaide. She dismissed our wins against Brisbane, West Coast and Essendon as we won 2 of them narrowly. Said because of those narrow wins all of a sudden everyone is talking finals. She never thought we'd play finals this year.
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yep she got them chompers working tonight, wish she just blurt it all out :lol ;D
What ia she saying
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Caro stating the obvious, something really wrong at this footy club, lol
Certainly is. Too many wankers lookiing after their own interests.
Hey, do you get your job back under Campbell/Sheeds?
Will be wearing the "" marketing hat""
Will be introducing a "means test " which will include IQ testing for future membership packages
That will count alot of the ""nuffers"" on this site ineligable to be a member, you included. :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :jump :jump :jump :jump :jump :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep
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Caro had a little bit to say about us tonight....
* Caro reckons Wallace was always safe. March obviously showed his frustration before the game yesterday over all the speculation.
* She said there was "savage" rumour doing the rounds last Monday about Hardwick becoming an assistant coach at Richmond and some even had him becoming senior coach. This was just as silly talk as some wanting Wallace's contract extended now. Caro said it makes sense to wait until next year.
* Tony Free had spoken to Hardwick a month ago about coming to the club and to get his opinion on things. As we know Free upset people at the club and March had to pull Free into line.
* The club will start to make the decision about whether to extend Wallace's reign beyond 2009 at the end of this year. They are hoping Wallace continues (as they hope we'll succeed).
* On the back of 21 marks, Archer called Richo a freak. Reckoned he took 10 contested marks not the official 4. Lyon said he was out of contract and Caro had to correct him with Richo re-signing for 2009.
* Hutchy reckons we've had the best year of any club in terms of improvement and where we have come from. Caro replied we've had a couple of shockers. Hutchy said you expect that from a up and coming side. Caro said some things you accept. Richmond supporters accepted the Geelong loss but not the Adelaide and Carlton losses. Hutchy said then you'll never be a happy Richmond supporter. Caro said some people have higher expectations than others and Hutchy obviously rated us lowly to begin with.
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Im sure most of you will sleep peacefully tonight knowing that Caro thinks TW will coach till the end of next season and perhaps beyond.
When she speaks about the RFC its almost like she cuts and pastes it straight out of this forum....hahahaha
i honestly believe she reads some of this stuff people post on here.
Scotty burns what a real nice and mature guy. A great leader IMO.
Sugar will never get asked to go on a show like this because he is a dud captain who cant string 2 words together.
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Im pretty certain he's been on before daniel
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I cant believe how kind Hutchy consistently is to us.
It's quite staggering. ???
And daniel161 you bitter idiot, if you love Scott Burns so much stuff off and support Collingwood because you're nothing but a flog of a Richmond supporter. At least those who can get on a Tiger kill streak like TM actually is sane, you're just a bitter idiot I'll be sad to know will one day barrack for a successful Richmond side acting like you were always a supporter. Makes me sick. :banghead
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I think most people here have said that Wallace should see out his 5 years of rebuilding the list from scratch as originally planned before being judged whether he should be kept on as coach. If there's no further improvement (finals) next year then it's goodbye.
Caro isn't all positive either. Yep we've had a couple of shockers but young sides are notoriously and frustratingly up and down. The past two games are proof of that. She's just probably happier now about us because Miller who she hated is gone.
The club has had an ordinary month off-field and it sounds like by what Caro was saying a lot of it comes back to Free on his director L-plates ::). Acting on his own agenda like talking to Hardwick. He's too much of a loose cannon to be on the Board.
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I cant believe how kind Hutchy consistently is to us.
It's quite staggering. ???
Hutchy just stating the obvious especially after yesterday. A bit hard for anyone to claim there hasn't been improvement when a young side most likely will finish with 8 1/2 more wins compared to last year as well as a 8-3 record in the second half of this year.
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When they got onto talking about Hodge being reported, Archer called Deledio a tagger :stupid and that's why Hodge swung the elbow back.
Coaches votes (Wallace and Clarkson)
Tuck 10
Richo 6
Bowden 5
Johnson 4
Mitchell 3
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Im sure most of you will sleep peacefully tonight knowing that Caro thinks TW will coach till the end of next season and perhaps beyond.
I would think most RFC supporters would sleep well knowing the club's in good hands.
It's only those who don't support the club who wouldn't be.
Are you still awake Daniel :lol
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The club has had an ordinary month off-field and it sounds like by what Caro was saying a lot of it comes back to Free on his director L-plates ::). Acting on his own agenda like talking to Hardwick. He's too much of a loose cannon to be on the Board.
Yeah, I got the impression she wasn't convinced he would be coaching either.
To be frank, either am I. No matter how well we're going, I think he's a dead man walking.
If people don't like you, they don't like you and no matter how well you perform they'll be out to get you.
We'll see what happens.
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When they got onto talking about Hodge being reported, Archer called Deledio a tagger :stupid and that's why Hodge swung the elbow back.
Yeah what a doofus! ::)
Two more rounds to go and we shall see who knows more about the club, ...the people who are paid to know more or the vicious rumour mongers with the winking affliction ;) ;) ;) lol
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Two more rounds to go and we shall see who knows more about the club, ...the people who are paid to know more or the vicious rumour mongers with the winking affliction ;) ;) ;) lol
You mean the people who suffer websitis onagain-off-again-onagain-off-again syndrome?
:rollin
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I cant believe how kind Hutchy consistently is to us.
It's quite staggering. ???
Hutchy just stating the obvious especially after yesterday. A bit hard for anyone to claim there hasn't been improvement when a young side most likely will finish with 8 1/2 more wins compared to last year as well as a 8-3 record in the second half of this year.
Yeah but even when we got smashed by Geelong and Arch and basically the whole panel was trying to get on Richmond's back and through the debacle a few weeks ago Hutchy held firm. It's been like it all year. He's been our staunch defender through thick and thin. That scares me. ;D
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Yes, getting stuck into us takes the heat off Melbourne which Lyon, I'm sure, would not want to address. They have got off lightly this year. Why? I'm not sure.
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
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I cant believe how kind Hutchy consistently is to us.
It's quite staggering. ???
And daniel161 you bitter idiot, if you love Scott Burns so much eff off and support Collingwood because you're nothing but a flog of a Richmond supporter. At least those who can get on a Tiger kill streak like TM actually is sane, you're just a bitter idiot I'll be sad to know will one day barrack for a successful Richmond side acting like you were always a supporter. Makes me sick. :banghead
you make me sick u fool.
i respect other leaders when they lead from the front. our captain drags us down which is why he needs to go.
i have nothing to say about our captain because he is the worst captain i have ever seen in my whole life in any team in the afl, including lance and vanders.
i cant help it if your blind as a bat
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
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I cant believe how kind Hutchy consistently is to us.
It's quite staggering. ???
And daniel161 you bitter idiot, if you love Scott Burns so much eff off and support Collingwood because you're nothing but a flog of a Richmond supporter. At least those who can get on a Tiger kill streak like TM actually is sane, you're just a bitter idiot I'll be sad to know will one day barrack for a successful Richmond side acting like you were always a supporter. Makes me sick. :banghead
you make me sick u fool.
i respect other leaders when they lead from the front. our captain drags us down which is why he needs to go.
i have nothing to say about our captain because he is the worst captain i have ever seen in my whole life in any team in the afl, including lance and vanders.
i cant help it if your blind as a bat
We can judge him on field as not the best suited captain for us, but you would have no idea, like me, what Sugar is like off the field where his team mates talk about how good he is for the club and that's probably why the players voted him to be captain again I can assume. I guess he must do something right, hey?
And you're still complaining and sooking about Caro copying and pasting straight from here about Terry coaching on next year, when you're still happy to copy and paste Jack's PMs to you and live out of Jack's arse??? :whistle
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
ROFL, the irony in that speaks for itself. :rollin
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
Now,now Petals.
I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Enjoy the finance world - it's one of the top 5 industries in the world u know :thumbsup :shh :scream
PS - White and one thanks Danielle....and make it quick biatch!
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i respect other leaders when they lead from the front. our captain drags us down which is why he needs to go.
i have nothing to say about our captain because he is the worst captain i have ever seen in my whole life in any team in the afl, including lance and vanders.
Running out of things to complain about Daniel so you have to resort to an old fave? Trouble is, Johnson is doing the job that the football department want and are happy with, and while he keeps playing like he did on Sunday then I'm afraid he ain't goin' nowhere. One of Deledio or Foley or even Newman will get a crack at the title but I don't think the fat lady is singing Johnson's song just yet. Did alright in both coaches opinions this week hey!
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i respect other leaders when they lead from the front. our captain drags us down which is why he needs to go.
i have nothing to say about our captain because he is the worst captain i have ever seen in my whole life in any team in the afl, including lance and vanders.
Running out of things to complain about Daniel so you have to resort to an old fave? Trouble is, Johnson is doing the job that the football department want and are happy with, and while he keeps playing like he did on Sunday then I'm afraid he ain't goin' nowhere. One of Deledio or Foley or even Newman will get a crack at the title but I don't think the fat lady is singing Johnson's song just yet. Did alright in both coaches opinions this week hey!
I bet he also thinks Schulz was worst on ground next to Sugar.
Bank on it, it runs like a broken record. :wallywink
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Coaches votes (Wallace and Clarkson)
Tuck 10
Richo 6
Bowden 5
Johnson 4
Mitchell 3
Well Suga got 4 votes from the coaches
I gave him votes I thought he was excellent.
I know people don't rate him as a captain but the players do and when it's all said and done that's what matters.
I have spoken to him numerous times and I can assure you he is very articulate, smart and a "good bloke". Just my opinion ;D
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
ROFL, the irony in that speaks for itself. :rollin
There but for the grace of God goes most of us. (apologies to JB)
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I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
I'm coming back as you in my next life - so I can sit on a computer all day every day and make a mint lol ;)
There's got to be more to life than working :help
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
Now,now Petals.
I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Enjoy the finance world - it's one of the top 5 industries in the world u know :thumbsup :shh :scream
PS - White and one thanks Danielle....and make it quick biatch!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
if you are going to mount a case at comparing yourself to me, think about it first you little fa.ggot.
i would run rings around losers like yourself. Sitting at home probably making a $200 on selling crap on ebay.
yep that will get you far.
half your age buddy remember that and you dont even come close.
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i respect other leaders when they lead from the front. our captain drags us down which is why he needs to go.
i have nothing to say about our captain because he is the worst captain i have ever seen in my whole life in any team in the afl, including lance and vanders.
Running out of things to complain about Daniel so you have to resort to an old fave? Trouble is, Johnson is doing the job that the football department want and are happy with, and while he keeps playing like he did on Sunday then I'm afraid he ain't goin' nowhere. One of Deledio or Foley or even Newman will get a crack at the title but I don't think the fat lady is singing Johnson's song just yet. Did alright in both coaches opinions this week hey!
I bet he also thinks Schulz was worst on ground next to Sugar.
Bank on it, it runs like a broken record. :wallywink
your wrong mate i call it as i see it
schulz made some clangers unless i was watching a different match.
However no complaints he played a good game.
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Coaches votes (Wallace and Clarkson)
Tuck 10
Richo 6
Bowden 5
Johnson 4
Mitchell 3
Well Suga got 4 votes from the coaches
I gave him votes I thought he was excellent.
I know people don't rate him as a captain but the players do and when it's all said and done that's what matters.
I have spoken to him numerous times and I can assure you he is very articulate, smart and a "good bloke". Just my opinion ;D
those votes mean nothing on that show.
the other month choco gives no votes to Bowden after he single handedly won us the game.
sam mitchell in the votes....okay whatever.
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
Now,now Petals.
I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Enjoy the finance world - it's one of the top 5 industries in the world u know :thumbsup :shh :scream
PS - White and one thanks Danielle....and make it quick biatch!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
if you are going to mount a case at comparing yourself to me, think about it first you little fa.ggot.
i would run rings around losers like yourself. Sitting at home probably making a $200 on selling crap on ebay.
yep that will get you far.
half your age buddy remember that and you dont even come close.
I doubt that ur half my age and i doubt u have more money than me :shh
I love the way u got upset :shh and called me a fag got though. :-*
Big kiss for Dainielle - the financial genius from an internet forum who felt in necessary to tell all what she does for a living and what tax bracket she's in
Big kiss
X
LOL@ Dani getting her ars kicked as well as looking the fool
FROLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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LMAO@ Danielle even bothering :wallywink
not working today brackets.
sit behind a computer at home all day.
what a sad life
Now,now Petals.
I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Enjoy the finance world - it's one of the top 5 industries in the world u know :thumbsup :shh :scream
PS - White and one thanks Danielle....and make it quick biatch!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
if you are going to mount a case at comparing yourself to me, think about it first you little fa.ggot.
i would run rings around losers like yourself. Sitting at home probably making a $200 on selling crap on ebay.
yep that will get you far.
half your age buddy remember that and you dont even come close.
the financial genius
why thank you
im glad u finally have admitted it
i feel sorry for people like you who have nothing next to their name.
PM i can help you
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I know people don't rate him as a captain but the players do and when it's all said and done that's what matters.
I have spoken to him numerous times and I can assure you he is very articulate, smart and a "good bloke". Just my opinion ;D
What he said. I've spoken to Sugar too and he is very articulate, intelligent.
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I know people don't rate him as a captain but the players do and when it's all said and done that's what matters.
I have spoken to him numerous times and I can assure you he is very articulate, smart and a "good bloke". Just my opinion ;D
What he said. I've spoken to Sugar too and he is very articulate, intelligent.
And playing good football and doing a very good job as captain according to all those that it matters and affects. Anyone who didn't see the importance and value in his game on Sunday well, to quote the words (and grammer and spelling) of a very well known financial genius - "i cant help it if your blind as a bat".
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those votes mean nothing on that show.
the other month choco gives no votes to Bowden after he single handedly won us the game.
sam mitchell in the votes....okay whatever.
Sorry but the coaches votes are probably the most accurate representation of a players performance in a game as only they know the job the player was given. For you to discredit them based on a single event is ridiculous. Clearly Williams doesn't rate Joel's loose man role and that's why he paid him no respect in the match, no wonder he didn't give him votes.
Sam Mitchell was dominated early by Tuck, but still had a good game by the time the final siren went.
They mean nothing? YOU IDIOT!!!
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I thought Mitchell tried his guts out to get the Hawks back into the game but I was surprised he got votes as he kept turning the ball over. Perhaps only Clarkson gave him 3 votes and I would've thought the best 5 players on the park would've been Tigers. No votes for our 3 amigos down back, Lids, Newy, Jordie ;), Morton, etc...?!
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i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
I cannot believe I am replying to this but really Daniel give it up
This may shock you but no one gives a rats about your "financial situation"
Just like no one gives a rats about mine
If the the grandness of your "financial situtation" makes you feel good well great but in the overall scheme of things money aint that important
i feel sorry for people like you who have nothing next to their name.
I have no idea what you mean here ::)
Are you talking about something else other than your much vaunted "financial situation" :-\
Letters after a person's name perhaps. If so give me a break
I feel sorry for you if you think that a persons monetary worth is the most important thing in the world. And before you start going on about that wasn't what you said or meant I only raise it because your constant harping on it makes it seem like it
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i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
I cannot believe I am replying to this but really Daniel give it up
This may shock you but no one gives a rats about your "financial situation"
Just like no one gives a rats about mine
If the the grandness of your "financial situtation" makes you feel good well great but in the overall scheme of things money aint that important
i feel sorry for people like you who have nothing next to their name.
I have no idea what you mean here ::)
Are you talking about something else other than your much vaunted "financial situation" :-\
Letters after a person's name perhaps. If so give me a break
I feel sorry for you if you think that a persons monetary worth is the most important thing in the world. And before you start going on about that wasn't what you said or meant I only raise it because your constant harping on it makes it seem like it
What WP is trying to say is "stop it or you'll go blind"
:wallywink
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i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
I cannot believe I am replying to this but really Daniel give it up
This may shock you but no one gives a rats about your "financial situation"
Just like no one gives a rats about mine
If the the grandness of your "financial situtation" makes you feel good well great but in the overall scheme of things money aint that important
i feel sorry for people like you who have nothing next to their name.
I have no idea what you mean here ::)
Are you talking about something else other than your much vaunted "financial situation" :-\
Letters after a person's name perhaps. If so give me a break
I feel sorry for you if you think that a persons monetary worth is the most important thing in the world. And before you start going on about that wasn't what you said or meant I only raise it because your constant harping on it makes it seem like it
i feel sorry for you, for replying. Your smarter than that.
You have avoided posting other than football topics, so why start now?
I will write and keep on writing because people like MXMLXV and Brackets are easy beats. So easy to get upset i love it.
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So easy to get upset i love it.
What an egocentric wanker you are.
:wallywink
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So easy to get upset i love it.
What an egocentric wanker you are.
:wallywink
why thank you. Thats a compliment compared to some names ive read on here.
:sleep or is it :bow
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i feel sorry for you, for replying. Your smarter than that.
The word is "you're" not "your".
If you do work in finance it is definitely making the coffee and running errands.
I doubt if you are even a Tigers supporter.
You smell like a troll. (and a Collingwood one at that)
(http://www.steeleraddicts.com/forum/images/smilies/troll.gif)
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i can assure you that i am half your age and u wouldn't even come close to my financial situation.
I cannot believe I am replying to this but really Daniel give it up
This may shock you but no one gives a rats about your "financial situation"
Just like no one gives a rats about mine
If the the grandness of your "financial situtation" makes you feel good well great but in the overall scheme of things money aint that important
i feel sorry for people like you who have nothing next to their name.
I have no idea what you mean here ::)
Are you talking about something else other than your much vaunted "financial situation" :-\
Letters after a person's name perhaps. If so give me a break
I feel sorry for you if you think that a persons monetary worth is the most important thing in the world. And before you start going on about that wasn't what you said or meant I only raise it because your constant harping on it makes it seem like it
Ahhhh.....so that's what I should have said ;D
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Class act WP.
The hard to believe thing is he couldn't even aspire to the wealth he so desperately dreams of. :wallywink
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What an egocentric wanker you are.
:wallywink
I'm not so sure about that....she's not that clever.
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I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Ox, I didn't know Amway was still operating! :lol
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I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Ox, I didn't know Amway was still operating! :lol
Nutri-Metics cuz :help
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Danielle - Who exactly are you trying to convince here? OER or yourself? People who have nothing to prove, don't brag about it.
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I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Ox, I didn't know Amway was still operating! :lol
Nutri-Metics cuz :help
i should have guessed. amway/nutri metics...hahahahaha
what a bunch of losers.
lets put this into perspective shall we troopers.
im living the dream and u guys are nearly 50 if not more and sitting away talking about making money off amway and metro whatever.
hmm i wonder who the losers are.
guys if u wouldn't mind i have to prepare for tomorrow's opening bell.
hey brackets and MXMLXV i feel sorry for u guys being nearly retired and facing financial hardship because your dumb as dog poo, so log on you might learn something.
www.hotcopper.com.au
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How would you know anything about the stock market Daniel?
You don't even know the difference between the Richmond board and it's football department. :banghead
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You have avoided posting other than football topics, so why start now?
I will write and keep on writing because people like MXMLXV and Brackets are easy beats. So easy to get upset i love it.
I replied because I was hoping it would get you back on the footy topics... because this is a footy forum
But obviously I was wrong.... oh well
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How would you know anything about the stock market Daniel?
You don't even know the difference between the Richmond board and it's football department. :banghead
i wont even dignify that with a response.
you have got to stop hanging out with Barb from carlton mate, its for your own good!!
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You have avoided posting other than football topics, so why start now?
I will write and keep on writing because people like MXMLXV and Brackets are easy beats. So easy to get upset i love it.
I replied because I was hoping it would get you back on the footy topics... because this is a footy forum
But obviously I was wrong.... oh well
We need a bit of a bashing session after all the garbage we've put up with this year, WP.
Pretty please, just one more day :pray
:lol
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I make more than you from quarterly cheques,let alone week-end work :lol :wallywink
Ox, I didn't know Amway was still operating! :lol
Nutri-Metics cuz :help
i should have guessed. amway/nutri metics...hahahahaha
what a bunch of losers.
lets put this into perspective shall we troopers.
im living the dream and u guys are nearly 50 if not more and sitting away talking about making money off amway and metro whatever.
hmm i wonder who the losers are.
guys if u wouldn't mind i have to prepare for tomorrow's opening bell.
hey brackets and MXMLXV i feel sorry for u guys being nearly retired and facing financial hardship because your dumb as dog poo, so log on you might learn something.
www.hotcopper.com.au
ROFL,
"Oh look at me this is proof I work at finance firm and I'm rich and therefore superior to everyone else on this forum because I can google and find a ASX forum."
:wallywink
Give it a break.
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Cant believe Free spoke to Hardwick about coaching at Richmond. Thats a sackable offence.
What a tool.
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:gobdrop Hey Oxx, when did you turn 50? Thanks for the invite ya pr.ick! :lol :birthday
Didn't even realise you'd turned 40 yet :rollin
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:gobdrop Hey Oxx, when did you turn 50? Thanks for the invite ya pr.ick! :lol :birthday
Didn't even realise you'd turned 40 yet :rollin
Yeah, have a great day, Pop :lol
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Cant believe Free spoke to Hardwick about coaching at Richmond. Thats a sackable offence.
What a tool.
1980, where did this come from ?
Has it been confirmed, or is it conjecture ?
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Cant believe Free spoke to Hardwick about coaching at Richmond. Thats a sackable offence.
What a tool.
1980, where did this come from ?
Has it been confirmed, or is it conjecture ?
Was said by Caro on Footy Classified
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:gobdrop Hey Oxx, when did you turn 50? Thanks for the invite ya pr.ick! :lol :birthday
Didn't even realise you'd turned 40 yet :rollin
Sorry Fwoymanberg...i must have missed it myself ::)
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Any reason why it's not on tonight?
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I think it's on after the movie, MT
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Starts at the friendly go to bed early for work time of 11:10 :shh
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Ta Moi and HT74 :cheers. It wasn't listed in the Green Guide. It's on now.
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Lyon brought up tonight that the Swans 19th man fiasco would still have us alive for the a finals spot if the Swans had lost the 2 points from the draw with North. Sydney would then be on 44 points and us 42.
He also mentioned the 13 seconds lost in the St Kilda game as well Lake going down with 'cramp' and Minson taking the kick instead. Has all those things cost Richmond a spot in the finals?
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Lyon defended Farmer by saying Edwards should have had 3 frees paid against him but the ump just laughed until he saw Farmer react ::).
Coaches votes (Wallace and Harvey):
Tuck 9
Duffield 6
Deledio 5
Simmo 4
Schammer 3
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The show is on at 10.30pm Sunday next week.
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Lyon defended Farmer by saying Edwards should have had 3 frees paid against him but the ump just laughed until he saw Farmer react ::).
Coaches votes (Wallace and Harvey):
Tuck 9
Duffield 6
Deledio 5
Simmo 4
Schammer 3
Deledio was 7 points and 2nd BOG
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Lyon defended Farmer by saying Edwards should have had 3 frees paid against him but the ump just laughed until he saw Farmer react ::).
Coaches votes (Wallace and Harvey):
Tuck 9
Duffield 6
Deledio 5
Simmo 4
Schammer 3
Deledio was 7 points and 2nd BOG
Ah I always stuff up at least one :wallywink
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Not FC but Mike has mentioned the same thing about the Swans 19 men on the field. Further proof journos get their ideas from the internet :whistle. In this case BF.
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Interchange fiasco costs dearly
Mike Sheahan | August 26, 2008 12:00am
THE AFL's refusal to take the tough decision on the interchange fiasco of Round 6 has come back to haunt football's governing body.
Had it rightly awarded North Melbourne the four points from the game against Sydney that ended in a farcical draw in April, the fight for last place in the final eight still would be alive.
The AFL, though, upheld the draw despite irrefutable proof Sydney had 19 players in the field of play for about 30 seconds in the last quarter, in which time the Swans scored the behind that tied the scores.
The result stood and Sydney was fined $50,000, half of which was suspended.
In different circumstances, Richmond, ninth, now would be two points behind Sydney, eighth, with one round to play.
A Sydney loss to the Brisbane Lions and a Richmond win against Melbourne at the weekend would have seen the Tigers move into the eight at Sydney's expense, and into the finals.
Yes, it was an innocent mistake on the Sydney bench in Round 6, yet perhaps the gravest mistake of all in a team sport - one team with more players than another.
Nothing, of course, can be done now, but it is clearly another case of what might have been with more decisive action on an unexpected dilemma.
While the Roos would have been two points better off, the extra points would not have affected their position.
They would be no more secure in fourth place because their percentage is inferior to the three teams immediately below them.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24241541-19742,00.html
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Just a reminder Footy Classified is on tonight. Coming up shortly.
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Based on 2nd half of the year post round 11, we have been the 3rd best team in the comp behind the Cats who have gone undefeated and the Saints who have lost 2 games in the 2nd half of the year with Colling wood Adelaide and Sydney outside the 8.
Pity finals are not made by results gained in the 2nd half of the year.
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Not much on us tonight. They showed Lids' marks and goals said he must go close to winning our B&F in his breakout year. Caro said it'll be between him, Richo and Tuck who has a strong second half of the year.
Coaches votes (Wallace and Bailey)
Deledio 8
Bowden 7
Newman 7
Tuck 6
Tivendale 1
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Archer must have a short term memory if he was "shocked" North got thumped. What happened in the finals twice last year Arch :whistle.
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Archer must have a short term memory if he was "shocked" North got thumped. What happened in the finals twice last year Arch :whistle.
Archer did mention that he thought that Kelvin Moore was one the two most improved players in the competition.
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Archer must have a short term memory if he was "shocked" North got thumped. What happened in the finals twice last year Arch :whistle.
Archer did mention that he thought that Kelvin Moore was one the two most improved players in the competition.
agree Moore has matured in fitness & skills & Richmond need to secure him
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Seriously did anyone think this guy was going to make the grade 2 years ago. I didn't.
Moore= GUN
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Seriously did anyone think this guy was going to make the grade 2 years ago. I didn't.
I did
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:bow
i thought he would be another dud defender like all the rest before him.
how wrong i was. id almost say top 5 in the b&f awaits him.
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Seriously did anyone think this guy was going to make the grade 2 years ago. I didn't.
Moore= GUN
I had him out the door by round 20 last year :-[ :wallywink. It's taken 5-6 years for his body to handle the rigours of competing at AFL level without breaking down. He was as injury prone all that time as Cass is now. I guess all the more reason why I think the club will be patient with Cass. As much as we say we have 3 young key defenders, Moore is 24.
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Seriously did anyone think this guy was going to make the grade 2 years ago. I didn't.
Moore= GUN
At training camp some years back where l trained in a group with him, l honestly thought he wouldnot make it. he was a very young baby faced red haired kid
Some injury set backs & loss of confidence saw him on the edge of being delisted. Someone obviously saw some raw talent in him for him to be drafted & kept on the list.
l thought he would go before Blumfield & Vardy. l 'm one of his biggest admirers now & think he has a huge future
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As much as we say we have 3 young key defenders, Moore is 24.
He might still have 10 years left if he hardly played for 5-6 years
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Did Caro or Hutchy mention anything about us last night on FC? I forgot it was on Sunday and only caught the last 20 minutes.
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Did Caro or Hutchy mention anything about us last night on FC? I forgot it was on Sunday and only caught the last 20 minutes.
No mention at all.
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Did Caro or Hutchy mention anything about us last night on FC? I forgot it was on Sunday and only caught the last 20 minutes.
No mention at all.
Ta GB. They must be sick lol.
The bit I saw of the show they showed this tall 16 year old kid from PNG pinging goals from every angle at FF in the International comp :o.
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Did Caro or Hutchy mention anything about us last night on FC? I forgot it was on Sunday and only caught the last 20 minutes.
No mention at all.
Yep and Glen Archer's contribution to that show is negligible. Unless they're talking about the Roos. :scream
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Hutchy said last night he still thinks Kerr will leave the Eagles (to Sydney). Caro thinks he'll stay.
McKinley hasn't re-signed to Hutchy's knowledge unless he's done it over the weekend. 3 clubs after him. Contradicts media reports McKinley has got a new 2-year deal at West Coast.
Warnock - Caro questioned how Carlton can fit all these high profile all under the cap with Murphy about to re-sign for $350 per year. Hutchy said the Blues are well managed and have plenty of room to fit them all in.
Mundy - Hutchy didn't say which club Mundy would be going to but he had him gone saying Freo have a real going-home problem at the moment.
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Warnock - Caro questioned how Carlton can fit all these high profile all under the cap with Murphy about to re-sign for $350 per year. Hutchy said the Blues are well managed and have plenty of room to fit them all in.
Well managed!!!!!!This is a club that put its collective hand out and received $$$ from the AFL. :lol
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Warnock - Caro questioned how Carlton can fit all these high profile all under the cap with Murphy about to re-sign for $350 per year. Hutchy said the Blues are well managed and have plenty of room to fit them all in.
Well managed!!!!!!This is a club that put its collective hand out and received $$$ from the AFL. :lol
And a club that has a history of blatant salary cap breaching and brown paper bags under the desk :whistle.
Caro has been surprisingly quiet about us btw. Normally this time of year she's got some goss about us without relying on Hutchy.
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A reminder it's just starting now (11:10pm).
I wonder if Hutchy or Caro will have any word on the Tiges.
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Wasn't worth staying up for
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Wasn't worth staying up for
Never is.
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Wasn't worth staying up for
Never is.
I disagree, I usually quite like it, but there just wasn't enough content for the show last night so they had to drag out what they could for the full hour
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Glen Archer is out of his depth in there. If he is not giving us anecdotes on North he is advocating why North players will do this and that. He is characterless. Contributes very little. Show would be better off with Caro Hutchy and Lyon.
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Glen Archer is out of his depth in there. If he is not giving us anecdotes on North he is advocating why North players will do this and that. He is characterless. Contributes very little. Show would be better off with Caro Hutchy and Lyon.
100% correct unfortunately Glenn Archer doesnt know how to contribute to the show. Theyd be better of ditching him as HT said.
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Grant Thomas is replacing Glenn Archer on Footy Classified and Walls is leaving 'On The Couch' for a new program on Ch 10's high definition channel.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24508325-19742,00.html
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Grant Thomas is replacing Glenn Archer on Footy Classified and Walls is leaving 'On The Couch' for a new program on Ch 10's high definition channel.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24508325-19742,00.html
"..Matthews ticks all the boxes..." :banghead
I avoid cliches like the plague.
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Glen Archer would be the man least likely to be on TV.
Hopeless
Thomas will be a giant pain in the A though :wallywink
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Glen Archer would be the man least likely to be on TV.
Hopeless
Thomas will be a giant pain in the A though :wallywink
Is Caro still going to be on? Doesn't she hate Thomo's guts? How's all that going to happen?
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Is Caro still going to be on? Doesn't she hate Thomo's guts? How's all that going to happen?
Yeh Caro is staying.... I think that's one of the things that appeals to the producers Caro -v- Thomas ;D
Archer was hopeless - wouldn't criticise a player or North if his life depended on it
Thomas is an arrogant schmuck and will stir the pot
Actually can see Thomas and Hutchy butting heads as well :rollin
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Thomas = more Richmond bashing :yawn
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Hird will join Healy and Sheahan On the Couch next year replacing Walls.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24632905-19742,00.html
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A reminder that Footy Classified starts up for 2009 at 10:40pm tonight with Grant Thomas joining Caro, Lyon and Hutchy.
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Hutchy saying on the lead-in ad "will Fev play".
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They spoke about Cousins of course....
* Thomas said Wallace will use Cousins sparingly and up front. His legs will feel like leather from all the nervous energy he must be feeling right now.
* Caro said the AFL commission is still a bit infuriated by Cousins' smile. Thomas replied he was picked on for frowning.
* On his NAB Cup performance - Caro said he was very underdone and really only did a few nice things. The helayullahs were over the top. Thomas agreed and said Cuz was trying to do a few 1-2s to get into the game and get hands on the footy.
* Thomas said St Kilda's culture was still in its infancy and having Cousins plus the doco would've been a distraction. Lack of success due to individualistic culture and idolising individuals. That's why St Kilda have only won one flag by 1 point in 113 years.
* Thomas said St Kilda is front of Richmond as far as culture because that group has been together longer.
* Caro said it's been good for Richmond because we've been a team of introverts. That's changing with Lids, Jack and Cotch and Cuz will help with that more. Richmond also had nothing to lose in picking up Cuz. They all agreed.
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I actually enjoyed the show last night. They were still talking over themselves at times but it was good to have a show actually talk about the footy. I'm not a Thomas fan but at least he gives an opinion unlike Archer last year. His "St Kilda has a better culture than Richmond" comment was laughable though. No ones culture is worse than the poor old Saints :wallywink. Only St Kilda could take the list they had in 2004 and not win a flag with it. Now their window is firmly shut.
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* Thomas said Wallace will use Cousins sparingly and up front. His legs will feel like leather from all the nervous energy he must be feeling right now.
I think you mean "lead" not leather.
MT - I think his point was reasonable about the current culture given it was only referring to the team being together longer. Even Grant admitted that StKilda's long term culture was damaged given it's lack of success.
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MT - I think his point was reasonable about the current culture given it was only referring to the team being together longer. Even Grant admitted that StKilda's long term culture was damaged given it's lack of success.
Before last year I would've said true they are ahead of us and that was reflected on the scoreboard as they owned us. However now I would be ticked off majorly if we lose to them again this year. Take out Riewoldt and Sam Fisher and they are ordinary. They are still relying on the core group they had 5 years ago and there's not much else in terms of youth coming through.
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Actually enjoyed it myself....
Best thing they ever did was get rid of Archer.
The little spat between Caro and Hutchy over Eddie was good for a giggle :thumbsup
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MT - I think his point was reasonable about the current culture given it was only referring to the team being together longer. Even Grant admitted that StKilda's long term culture was damaged given it's lack of success.
Before last year I would've said true they are ahead of us and that was reflected on the scoreboard as they owned us. However now I would be ticked off majorly if we lose to them again this year. Take out Riewoldt and Sam Fisher and they are ordinary. They are still relying on the core group they had 5 years ago and there's not much else in terms of youth coming through.
I do agree, but I think it's a little early to be making calls on this season when it hasn't even started yet. Which would mean that based on last year they are still ahead. It's up to us to push passed them now.
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MT - I think his point was reasonable about the current culture given it was only referring to the team being together longer. Even Grant admitted that StKilda's long term culture was damaged given it's lack of success.
Before last year I would've said true they are ahead of us and that was reflected on the scoreboard as they owned us. However now I would be ticked off majorly if we lose to them again this year. Take out Riewoldt and Sam Fisher and they are ordinary. They are still relying on the core group they had 5 years ago and there's not much else in terms of youth coming through.
I do agree, but I think it's a little early to be making calls on this season when it hasn't even started yet. Which would mean that based on last year they are still ahead. It's up to us to push passed them now.
That's true Infamy. The time for talk and preseason hype is over. We need to back up the promises with actions and turn up to play beginning on the big stage that is Thursday night. First game of the season, prime time tv audience, full house at the ground - don't embarrass the club boys. Come out fired up, hit 'em with everything and just win.
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Actually enjoyed it myself....
Best thing they ever did was get rid of Archer.
The little spat between Caro and Hutchy over Eddie was good for a giggle :thumbsup
Thought the show was ok.
Can't stand Hutchy plain and simple but yes Thank God Archer is gawn.
Last thing I wanted to hear was at North we did this/that/the other. :sleep
He had no personality no charisma and no talent for a footy talk show like that.
Hopefully Thomas doesn't rant on about the Saints too much. :sleep
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FC is on again at 10.40pm tonight. Caro will probably get stuck into us.
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FC is on again at 10.40pm tonight. Caro will probably get stuck into us.
Honestly , so she should
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Didn't Terry get Grant Thomas down to the club to tell some home truths the last time this sort of ineptness was on display? He might lash out too. Quite sad our players need a chair and whip to get motivated instead of doing it themselves.
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Hutchy and Lyon previewing the show tonight
- Where to next for the hapless Tigers?
- Is the tail wagging the dog at Richmond in regard to Cousins?
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A fair bit about Richmond....
* Caro says Sheeds is finished as a coach and everyone in the media knows that and it was poor journalism from Eddie who knows Sheeds won't coach again.
* Cambo would be waiting in the wings if there's anybody not Sheeds. But indications are Wallace will see out the 5 years.
* Caro doesn't think there's be a hysterical overreation to one game. Deserving of all the criticism the club has received.
* There'll be questions if Wallace has lost the players, or they got stagefright, or the players aren't simply good enough and Wallace has had 4 years to put the side together, but Terry isn't under the pump.
* Thomas said he saw the signs before the game from Wallace's answer to Robbo's article. Wallace said before the game we're more interested in getting first to the ball than being second and tackling. Thomas saod Richmond players are well known for avoiding physical contact and not tackling. Hutchy said to Thomas they were 2nd in contested footy last year. Thomas replied there's 3 parts to footy - you have the footy, they have the footy, and the contested ball. Richmond don't work hard enough when the oppositon has the ball. 13th-16th in stats over the last 3-4 years. Caro said Robbo's article was prophetic.
* Thomas said it's hard to pinpoint individuals in such a bad loss although senior players over 30 didn't lead - Browny whose publicly admitted he was poor which is great, and Richo was unaccountable. Thomas said clubs in the past has tried to hurt Richo the other way without success because he's so dangerous but Waite did it beautifully. A wake-up call to Richo.
* Thomas said he was disappointed to see vision of us training tonight and them working on skills rather than basic hardness and desperation at the footy and tackling.
* Lyon said it's become about Cousins in the last few days. Hutchy claimed there's some friction between Cousins and club over his media commitments. Apparently club wasn't aware of the "shattered" article. Caro said he's desperate for cash. She said Cuz is self-centred and all his life it's been about him. Thomas believes Cousins and club aren't on the same page. There would always be peripheral issues that would come to light. That's the sort of things you need to consider when picking up a player. Caro said in Cousins' defence he was in a high state anxiety with his first game and club has made $$$ and members out of him.
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Another year and another pasting on Footy classified. Only now its Thomas instead of Archer saying we hate physical contact.
Campbell's legacy lives on in Bowden
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A bit more from Grant Thomas....
Wallace must tackle cause of toothless Tigers
27/03/2009 5:31:00 PM, Grant Thomas
I was laying in bed last night after watching the Tigers inept performance in front of nearly 90,000 people at the MCG against an inspired Carlton and I was wondering what the problem was.
I was trying to imagine myself as coach and what I would be saying to the team and what I would be taking responsibility for myself.
After all the Tigers were pathetic.
The opening 20 minutes was competitive, fast and tough. The first four goals to Carlton were hand delivered and gift wrapped by terrible turnover errors by the Tigers.
After that they were totally deflated and humbly - even meekly – declined to accept any further challenges.
They were utterly dismantled mentally.
Their unacceptable decision-making and skill errors worsened and the inexperienced Blues took complete control.
What was so frustrating and galling was the manner in which Richmond succumbed. Let's remember it is Round 1 and you have everything to play for. It sets your season up – not from a win/loss perspective – more from an attitude or “statement” point of view.
Carlton had four first gamers – all of whom performed admirably – whilst Richmond had 4 players over 30 years of age who all had nights they would prefer to forget. The Blues oldest was 'Fev' at 28, along with Heath Scotland. That’s a very distinct difference in approach to the game and an even more emphatic outcome.
Terry Wallace was asked before the game about a journalist's article challenging the Richmond players' ability to tackle and do the difficult tasks required without the ball. Plough seemed to be in complete denial and was not prepared to accept the facts which is troubling.
Last night at half time it was 24 tackles to 37 in favour of Carlton who went on to have 81 whilst controlling the ball for most of the night. Perhaps Plough will finally accept responsibility for this critical aspect of the game and insist on it being a focus over the coming weeks.
After all Geelong next week and the Western Bulldogs the week after will be excellent measuring sticks.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/Blog.aspx?blogentryid=370459&showcomments=true
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I actually thought it was pretty mild.... Thomas made some really good points and more importantly made sense unlike Archer last year....
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Grant Thomas wouldnt be a bad choice for Richmond's next coach !!!
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Grant Thomas wouldnt be a bad choice for Richmond's next coach !!!
I never liked the guy, but I reckon he might be better than what we got. As long as he doesn't loan money from Gary March.
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Grant Thomas wouldnt be a bad choice for Richmond's next coach !!!
Whoa, let's not get too drastic here
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Its not about just the coach, we recruited very badly over the last 5 years, and we have bad kicks all over the list ... to many to be able to improve substantially.
The recruiters have alot to answer for I reckon. Why recruit blokes who cant stuffen kick is beyond me.
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* Thomas said he was disappointed to see vision of us training tonight and them working on skills rather than basic hardness and desperation at the footy and tackling.
I'm not disappointed they were working on skills.
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Its not about just the coach, we recruited very badly over the last 5 years, and we have bad kicks all over the list ... to many to be able to improve substantially.
The recruiters have alot to answer for I reckon. Why recruit blokes who cant effen kick is beyond me.
Like Jackstar said in another post, most of the guys CAN kick, because we're trying to play a precision gameplan that's where things come unstuck.
I watch most games of ours and wonder why opposition players are free all along the wing and all it takes is a kick to space because we're not anywhere near them, while we kick to guys who are hot, or have to kick to contests all the time.
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I never liked the guy, but I reckon he might be better than what we got.
Meh Thomas.
If ever a coach underachieved with a list that should have won a premiership it's Thomas the Tank.
Remember where his emphasis on ruckmen got him?
Easy to be critical from the cushy media gig.
Terry Wallace will look like a master tactician again when he's back there too. :P :P :P :P
Thomas is an egotistical wanker with a big mouth.
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Its not about just the coach, we recruited very badly over the last 5 years, and we have bad kicks all over the list ... to many to be able to improve substantially.
The recruiters have alot to answer for I reckon. Why recruit blokes who cant effen kick is beyond me.
100% correct ramps.
Time and time again we recruit players who cant kick.
Its an embarrassment to us members who have supported this team and they let us down all the time.
Big clean out is needed
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the club has had enough big clean outs, there is only so much a club can do re cutting lists yr in yr out
this team nearly made finals last yr, finished the season off well. forget round 1, every team has at least 1 or 2 games a year they wish to forget, remember geelong v collingwood last year. we even beat the hawks pretty well late last yr but they won the flag.
the yr is still young and most ppl hate grant thomas because he tells it as it is
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we even beat the hawks pretty well late last yr but they won the flag.
Apparently it was strategy from the Dawks in their quest to win the flag on why we won that game.
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Its not about just the coach, we recruited very badly over the last 5 years, and we have bad kicks all over the list ... to many to be able to improve substantially.
The recruiters have alot to answer for I reckon. Why recruit blokes who cant effen kick is beyond me.
Caro tonight blamed our lack of recruiters and development structure at the end of 2004.
Caro said those five top 20 picks in 2004 were poor but no one picked on Richmond for taking them at the time. Russell said at the time Tambling would win the Brownlow based on what Darren Bewick told him. Caro blames our development structure or lack of it at the time.
Beck left shortly after in 2005, Miller's best days were behind him and Francis Jackson was only working part time. We also had a small footy dept and no player development coaches. If we had these things back then as we do now those draftees may have come on by now. Only Lids has showed anything. Healy said after the first few the 2004 draft wasn't much chop either. Van Berlo who went at pick 24 would be top 6 if the draft was re-done today.
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Bump. The 4 amigos coming up at 10.30pm tonight.
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Bump. The 4 amigos coming up at 10.30pm tonight.
The biggest issue they face.....
Can they actually snag a guest :rollin
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Going into an ad break they showed vision of McGuane punching the ball away and asked is this the most selfish act in footy? ???
On Richmond.......
* Thomas said the two positives from the Geelong game were our contested footy improved significantly and especially we played on instinctively which put pressure back on Geelong.
* Hutchy said our 4 newbies - Gus, Rance, Hislop and Nahas - all gave us another new dimension. We also didn't get much help from the umpires.
* Caro said hang on Richmond still lost by 20 points. Tiger fans would be devestated over the loss on Saturday. In front at 3/4 time, a extra days break and no Ottens - you wouldn't get a better chance to knock off Geelong.
* Thomas said Wallace's comments at the Tommy Hafey Club function were orchestrated. Basically it was a message to the players to show if they want to play for Terry and want him to coach beyond next year. If the players put in 4 consistent efforts in the coming weeks then Terry knows the players want to play for him. If they don't then where does Terry go from there.
* Hutchy asked Thomas if Kingy should ever play AFL again due to his kicking and Thomas said that's harsh. He likes the way Kingy goes about his footy and would give him more time.
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Going into an ad break they showed vision of McGuane punching the ball away and asked is this the most selfish act in footy? ???
Lyon called it selfish. It was more a brain fade for mine out of frustration that Kingy gave up a goal through an errant kick in the backline.
Don't know what Caro was on about. Geelong had an 8-day break so they were hardly coming off a short break.
Thomas also wondered why we need to cop a spanking from all and sundry to play with the intensity required against Geelong when we didn't give a yelp in round 1 after 6 months preseason. The million dollar question we'd all like to know the answer to.
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And still no guest :rollin
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Going into an ad break they showed vision of McGuane punching the ball away and asked is this the most selfish act in footy? ???
Lyon called it selfish. It was more a brain fade for mine out of frustration that Kingy gave up a goal through an errant kick in the backline.
Don't know what Caro was on about. Geelong had an 8-day break so they were hardly coming off a short break.
Thomas also wondered why we need to cop a spanking from all and sundry to play with the intensity required against Geelong when we didn't give a yelp in round 1 after 6 months preseason. The million dollar question we'd all like to know the answer to.
Selfish my rs, it was pure frustration at the pussies getting cheap goals. Dumb thing to do sure, but I dont think selfish came into it as the act of selfishness implies thought was taken.
I reckon the Blues game was the result of too much hype and talk, and when things started to go wrong it just snowballed into the disaster that was R1.
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Lyon called it selfish. It was more a brain fade for mine out of frustration that Kingy gave up a goal through an errant kick in the backline.
I bet when the ball was heading through the goals, McGuane had a 'Waterboy' moment and the ball turned into Kingy's head.
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Going into an ad break they showed vision of McGuane punching the ball away and asked is this the most selfish act in footy? ???
Lyon called it selfish. It was more a brain fade for mine out of frustration that Kingy gave up a goal through an errant kick in the backline.
Don't know what Caro was on about. Geelong had an 8-day break so they were hardly coming off a short break.
Thomas also wondered why we need to cop a spanking from all and sundry to play with the intensity required against Geelong when we didn't give a yelp in round 1 after 6 months preseason. The million dollar question we'd all like to know the answer to.
lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
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No further hostilities in the war between Caro and Eddie I noticed (or did I miss it)...maybe the Channel 9 execs gave them both a speaking to...
Lyon did say at the start that the show was back and for more than just 2 weeks...was that a way at having a small backhander at Eddie's comments that the show would be gorn in 2 weeks if the ratings didnt improve?
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Still reckon Grant Thomas would make an excellent choice as Richmonds next coach or at least an assistants role. Geez I reckon he would make the tough choices to do with personell and the feel around the club.
I must say though to clarify I do live in Warrnambool and saw Grant coach Warrnambool Footy Club to 5 premierships in a row in the late 80's.
He really doesnt like us at all which is why I think he would be good.
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He doesn't suffer fools...
But why would he coach us if he doesn't like us...plus he has said he wont coach again...
Personally i have many friends and relos that are Saints supporters and they were not happy with him as coach...His refusal to believe in the role of Ruckmen who dont win their own footy cost the Sainters ...Imagine if the Sainters kept Richmond out of the Heath Black trade and ignored Fiora and simply took Simmonds in return for Heath Black...What might have been for them in 05 and 06 etc...
First thing that Ross Lyon did was recruit Gardiner..then King...says something doesnt it.
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
And when he has racked up as many selfish and stupid acts as your darling Richo then he might need to think about it. Everyone makes at least one judgment of error that doesn't (and shouldn't) condemn them to the gallows - even you.
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
And when he has racked up as many selfish and stupid acts as your darling Richo then he might need to think about it. Everyone makes at least one judgment of error that doesn't (and shouldn't) condemn them to the gallows - even you.
Richo selfish. uum okay no problem. Selfish enough to stay a club for his whole career when he could have left for more money at some stage.
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He would coach us for the challenge and of course the money ! Doesnt he have like 9 kids or something ? Got to put food on the table.
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Richo selfish. uum okay no problem. Selfish enough to stay a club for his whole career when he could have left for more money at some stage.
If you had the capacity for reasoned analysis you would have understood the context of the comment was on field. For the large part of his career he has been one of the most selfish footballers going around. Gifted, loyal, courageous - yep, all of those too, but selfish also.
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
I would love to see the list of Richmond players up to Dans standards.Daniel please indulge me.....
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
I would love to see the list of Richmond players up to Dans standards.Daniel please indulge me.....
Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
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Given your pre-requisite of skill, some of those choices are pretty funny
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Good list Daniel....Richmond lost part of its soul when Chris Bond left at the end of 97
Jamie Tape looked like he would be a ten year champion for us after 94/95.For some reason Walls didn't rate him.
I wish we had someone with Micheal Gales toughness in the team right now.
I would never of picked you to be a Duncan Fan....I would of assumed his disposal skills would of driven you nuts!!Best tagger ever.
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In regards to Luke McGuanes effort,
100% behind Luke McGuane. Just shows that the rules are made by people that have never played the game.
In terms of time wasting.. How is it different then smashing the ball over the line spoiling it into the crowd...
How is it different from being 10 goals down and out of frustrating kicking the ball into the top tier?
We don't use 1 ball anymore? Bad rule. Needs to be changed. Or at worst a free kick from the centre bouce.
Lets see a Grand Final determined from a frustrated punch of the ball with 10 secs left..
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Good list Daniel....Richmond lost part of its soul when Chris Bond left at the end of 97
Jamie Tape looked like he would be a ten year champion for us after 94/95.For some reason Walls didn't rate him.
I wish we had someone with Micheal Gales toughness in the team right now.
I would never of picked you to be a Duncan Fan....I would of assumed his disposal skills would of driven you nuts!!Best tagger ever.
yes it did drive me nuts at times but he did his job week in week out.
best tagger to grace our club
and a top bloke to boot lived and grew up right around the corner
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and a top bloke to boot lived and grew up right around the corner
God you are full of it.
Stop big noting yourself
:banghead
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
I would love to see the list of Richmond players up to Dans standards.Daniel please indulge me.....
Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
eclectic bunch, did you put much thought into that list. :lol
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and a top bloke to boot lived and grew up right around the corner
God you are full of it.
Stop big noting yourself
:banghead
i grew up in Wheelers Hill not that a guy from the slums like yourself would know.
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
I would love to see the list of Richmond players up to Dans standards.Daniel please indulge me.....
Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
eclectic bunch, did you put much thought into that list. :lol
i did the list while i was playing lego with your mrs last night
let me know tell you all the pieces slotted in nicely right into place.
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Back to the topic people ::)
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and a top bloke to boot lived and grew up right around the corner
God you are full of it.
Stop big noting yourself
:banghead
i grew up in Wheelers Hill not that a guy from the slums like yourself would know.
Pot, Kettle, Black!!!
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Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
Geez X, with that list you should be taking over from Bert on that 20 to 1 program. Putting the likes of Hogg and Free before players like Royce Hart, Bill Barrott, Sheeds, KB etc really does give me some insight to your thinking. Hogg and Free we good players in crap sides. Hart was a standout in a star studded team.
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Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
Geez X, with that list you should be taking over from Bert on that 20 to 1 program. Putting the likes of Hogg and Free before players like Royce Hart, Bill Barrott, Sheeds, KB etc really does give me some insight to your thinking. Hogg and Free we good players in crap sides. Hart was a standout in a star studded team.
Who is X? actually forget that, who cares. No one remembers KB and how good he WAS because he and that fruitloop Geesh have together ruined this great game of ours with there pathetic rule changes and interpratations.
I couldnt care less if his son reads it because its true. if they all just left the game alone we woukd all be better for it.
Royce Hart a legend but b4 my time buddy
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it is amazing on this site how whenever someone has a different opinion to another the personal abuse and insults come out in full force. when i joined this site, i received a pm from a member welcoming me here and telling me how this is a great site with great mods. However, all i read are posts which say otherwise.
what a shame we all think differently and have different opinions, we should all think the exact same thing :banghead, it will make for a boring forum and debate, but at least all the personal attacks on here would stop.
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it is amazing on this site how whenever someone has a different opinion to another the personal abuse and insults come out in full force. when i joined this site, i received a pm from a member welcoming me here and telling me how this is a great site with great mods. However, all i read are posts which say otherwise.
what a shame we all think differently and have different opinions, we should all think the exact same thing :banghead, it will make for a boring forum and debate, but at least all the personal attacks on here would stop.
If you look a little bit deeper you will see that almost all personal attacks are centred around one poster - to and from. There is a lot of history with that poster and most others are prepared to listen to and offer reasonable arguments or points of opinion but when it comes to this person in particular then most others patience has well and truly gone. This is a good forum and you do receive a lot of information, balanced argument and passionate support. Don't judge our book by one cover.
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being new here maybe i am judging too early
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lyon is right, it was a selfish and stupid act.
Mcguane IMO best start packing his bags for the Gold Coast if he keeps that up
Gee is there anyone in our side who is up to your stellar, personal standards? ::)
Sometimes I wonder why you bother, it's not passion it's pessimism in your all grey and white world.
I would love to see the list of Richmond players up to Dans standards.Daniel please indulge me.....
Richo
Campbell
Knights
Flea
Michael Mitchell
Rioli
The General
Michael Gale
Geoff Raines
Cloke
Tuck
Lids
Cotchin
Jack R.
Foley of 2007
Chris Bond
Moore
Polo
Jamie Tape
Roach
Lambert
Duncan Kellaway
Jeff Hogg
Tony Free
Cogs pre injury
There are probably some more but i cant think of them at the top of my head.
If our side was built around these type of personalities and skill then maybe we would not find ourselves in the same position year in year out.
eclectic bunch, did you put much thought into that list. :lol
i did the list while i was playing lego with your mrs last night
let me know tell you all the pieces slotted in nicely right into place.
so who writes your stuff. :lol
sybil complex.
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Well it should be delightful tonight
Caro and Thomas :banghead
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Not hard to guess what Caro, Thomas and co will say about us tonight. Eade on and Hutchy saying what next for the hapless Tigers and their coach Terry Wallace.
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Well Caro's on fire, suggested terry wont be there next week but then when Hutchy called her on it said yes he will be
Thomas just paid out big time on tambling
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Summary
* Caro - Richmond were pathetic. She only watched a half as she had to get ready for the show.
* Wallace is almost at the point where he has to decide whether he is the cure to the disease that is the Richmond football club
* Hutchy believes we will win next week. Caro said there's no guarantee.
* Not impossible for the club to act on Wallace now. March has promised Terry he will coach to the end of the season but there's always an out for presidents. Not really fair on Terry as the players not playing for him. Players simply gave up today and never had a crack as they didn't against Carlton. It's not the loss but the manner of the loss.
* Thomas said in the first quarter we played on quickly. After quarter time we didn't which played into the Bulldogs hands and the confidence went down the toilet.
* Tambling doesn't understand gut running. Just jogs the lines.
* Caro said there was no leadership today. Newman has had a disasterous start to the season as captain. The game may have past Browny. Richo has another year in him but Lake beat him hands down.
* Forward non-existent - Schulz a flop, Riewoldt good early before the knock, Morton didn't do enough. Hutchy asked where is Hughes.
* Eade said he believed Richmond has the run and worked hard today but just turned the ball over too much.
* Eade said he doesn't believe Cambo was promised the senior role at Richmond. He always wanted to get back to Punt Rd and help in some capacity. As far as a future coach he's still early in his development but he was great in the 18 months with the dogs.
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There's a few in Blingers book in our playing group.
Unless JohnF has influenced the club to change their mind then someone should tell Caro Cambo didn't make our team of the century ;).
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Actually Caro should be in politics ;D
Flipped/flopped beautiful this evening on the TW issue :rollin
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Caro = Bookworm :rollin No 1 Cares
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Plough through the minefield
16/04/2009, Grant Thomas
The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
It is as though they are the governors of popular opinion. Courage under fire and standing by their decisions are not a high priority.
It is with this in mind that Terry Wallace should be shaking in his Hugo Boss boots.
Plough seems to have been in denial and "catch-up" ever since the fateful decisions made in year one of his five year term.
There is no doubt Plough had a different opinion than most of the existing list and subsequent selections. The spin applied since has been... well, let's call it amusing.
When you get a five year contract you make the most of it by cutting back to the bone and setting the direction in a very definitive manner rather than settling in to cosyland, whacking on the slippers and watching the world go by.
There is undisputably no doubt Wallace made the wrong call and has been playing catch-up ever since. This will define his reign and probably lead to his downfall if it happens.
But will he survive?
If he can galvanize the group and manage the players to some very high, but achievable standards (set by the players mind you), focussed directly on effort and accountability, he is a chance.
The guy can coach - make no mistake about it. What he needs now is support and time. I'm just not certain the heirarchy have the ability or courage to provide either.
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The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
Just 2 coaches in 10 years and no sackings despite the lack of success would dispute that. That's just spurting out an old myth that no longer applies.
When you get a five year contract you make the most of it by cutting back to the bone and setting the direction in a very definitive manner rather than settling in to cosyland, whacking on the slippers and watching the world go by.
Is that from personal experience at St Kilda Grant with the list you had?! :wallywink.
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The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
Just 2 coaches in 10 years and no sackings despite the lack of success would dispute that. That's just spurting out an old myth that no longer applies.
Got to say MT, that we sack this time then what has happened in the the last 10 years wont mean anything....the old myth will apply
Rightly or wrongly.....
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And some on here have put this tool up as a prospective coach for us!!!!!!
We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years - Robert Walls in 1997. Just goes to show how much he believes and accepts populist crap without checking his facts.
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And some on here have put this tool up as a prospective coach for us!!!!!!
We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years - Robert Walls in 1997. Just goes to show how much he believes and accepts populist crap without checking his facts.
If you're being pedantic about it maybe. If you go by coaches who would have preferred to keep their contracts going, then it's not such a pretty picture.
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And some on here have put this tool up as a prospective coach for us!!!!!!
We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years - Robert Walls in 1997. Just goes to show how much he believes and accepts populist crap without checking his facts.
If you're being pedantic about it maybe. If you go by coaches who would have preferred to keep their contracts going, then it's not such a pretty picture.
How am I being pedantic? We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years!!
Bartlett saw out his contract, Jeans resigned (ill health), Northey resigned (better offer elsewhere), Walls sacked, Gieschen saw out his contract, Frawley saw out his contract.
Who else have we sacked?
I contend that almost every coach would love to sign a new contract at the end of their existing one but if the club decides to appoint someone else then welcome to life - you haven't been sacked, just not reappointed. You sign a contract to do a certain job for a certain period - nothing more, nothing less.
As a club, we have been very, very unfairly treated by the media when it comes to the perpetual lie that we have a history of sacking our coaches.
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And some on here have put this tool up as a prospective coach for us!!!!!!
We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years - Robert Walls in 1997. Just goes to show how much he believes and accepts populist crap without checking his facts.
If you're being pedantic about it maybe. If you go by coaches who would have preferred to keep their contracts going, then it's not such a pretty picture.
How am I being pedantic? We have sacked 1 coach in 20 years!!
Bartlett saw out his contract, Jeans resigned (ill health), Northey resigned (better offer elsewhere), Walls sacked, Gieschen saw out his contract, Frawley saw out his contract.
Who else have we sacked?
I contend that almost every coach would love to sign a new contract at the end of their existing one but if the club decides to appoint someone else then welcome to life - you haven't been sacked, just not reappointed. You sign a contract to do a certain job for a certain period - nothing more, nothing less.
As a club, we have been very, very unfairly treated by the media when it comes to the perpetual lie that we have a history of sacking our coaches.
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agree 100%
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The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
Just 2 coaches in 10 years and no sackings despite the lack of success would dispute that. That's just spurting out an old myth that no longer applies.
Got to say MT, that we sack this time then what has happened in the the last 10 years wont mean anything....the old myth will apply
Rightly or wrongly.....
That's true WP but that's only if we stupidly do it.
Smokey we went through 11 coaches between 1980 and 2000. We had 4 in 5 years b/w 95-2000. Whether they were technically sacked or their contract not renewed the shoe fitted the club then. It doesn't now unless the Board is stupid and doesn't let Wallace see out his final year.
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Smokey we went through 11 coaches between 1980 and 2000. We had 4 in 5 years b/w 95-2000. Whether they were technically sacked or their contract not renewed the shoe fitted the club then. It doesn't now unless the Board is stupid and doesn't let Wallace see out his final year.
And we won 4 flags between 1967 and 1980 so using that theory we are a great team? I could say the same thing about Collingwood - they are a very good club, after all, they have won 14 premierships, more than most others. Trouble with that is they have only won 1 in the last 50 years so in fact they are a very poor club. It is so far back in history that using what happened then to describe what we are now is not only not fair, it is misleading. What is the difference between technically sacked and sacked? A coaching contract is an employment agreement for a finite length so it is not being sacked if a new contract is not offered at the end of that term - you can't be sacked from something that doesn't exist.
4 in 5 years between 95-2000 you say? That's a perfect example of using statistics to portray an unfair perception to suit your argument. Those same 4 coaches actually coached for 13 years. Why didn't you say that? And of those 4, 1 (Walls) was sacked. Northey quit for greener pastures when he didn't get what he wanted - how is that the club's fault? Geischen's contract wasn't renewed when it ran out - and only an imbecilic club would have reappointed him. Frawley's contract wasn't renewed when it ran out - see my earlier point about imbecilic clubs. That's my point with this whole myth that the media love to perpetuate - we DO NOT have a recent or modern history of sacking coaches.
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And we won 4 flags between 1967 and 1980 so using that theory we are a great team? I could say the same thing about Collingwood - they are a very good club, after all, they have won 14 premierships, more than most others. Trouble with that is they have only won 1 in the last 50 years so in fact they are a very poor club. It is so far back in history that using what happened then to describe what we are now is not only not fair, it is misleading. What is the difference between technically sacked and sacked? A coaching contract is an employment agreement for a finite length so it is not being sacked if a new contract is not offered at the end of that term - you can't be sacked from something that doesn't exist.
4 in 5 years between 95-2000 you say? That's a perfect example of using statistics to portray an unfair perception to suit your argument. Those same 4 coaches actually coached for 13 years. Why didn't you say that? And of those 4, 1 (Walls) was sacked. Northey quit for greener pastures when he didn't get what he wanted - how is that the club's fault? Geischen's contract wasn't renewed when it ran out - and only an imbecilic club would have reappointed him. Frawley's contract wasn't renewed when it ran out - see my earlier point about imbecilic clubs. That's my point with this whole myth that the media love to perpetuate - we DO NOT have a recent or modern history of sacking coaches.
I agree it has nothing to do with us now after we've supported Spud and Wallace for 5 years each but going back in history the explanation for our coaches going wasn't as simple as their contract wasn't renewed. We let Hafey walk because 2 board members didn't think 4 flags in 10 years was good enough ::), we didn't renew Jewell's first contract just 12 months after a flag because we were afraid Bourke would go elsewhere like Sheeds did, we let Sproule go after just one year because he was linked to Richardson's presidency, we let KB go because we could get Jeans but had Yabby said no we would've stuck with KB, we let Northey walk because he wanted 2 more years and we would only promise him one more, we sacked Walls (thank god lol), and Geisch and Daphne's presidency were linked. In any case 11 coaches in a 20 year period was a sign of a very unstable and overreactionary club. The ridicule we copped over our coaching merry-go-round was deserved although it hid a deeper problem. It more importantly hurt us when we searched for a new coach after Geisch and only Spud was left putting his hand up for a go :P. I agree Smokey all this coach changing is not part of our recent history and it's irrelevant to the club in 2009 so the media are trolling bringing it up nowdays but it was our history for 20 odd years or so there.
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I agree Smokey all this coach changing is not part of our recent history and it's irrelevant to the club in 2009 so the media are trolling bringing it up nowdays but it was our history for 20 odd years or so there.
Yeah MT, I just get very frustrated with the myth. Yes, I agree that we had probably 10 years through the 80's when we were a coaches minefield but we haven't been for so long now that I just think it's totally unfair to the club for that perception to linger. And yes, I'm not that naive to think the media will let go of it anytime soon. >:( Thats why reading the article by that sanctimonious fool Thomas really got under my skin. Him, coming from a club that has had the same number of coaches as us in the past 20 years (7) AND they sacked 2 of them - 1 more than us - ANd he was one of them! Or maybe a Brisbane - 1 of the great clubs of the modern era - 7 coaches in the last 20 years and sacked 2 of them. Or maybe a Carlton - 6 coaches in the last 20 years and sacked 2 of them. I didn't read anywhere in his article where he described any of them as:
"The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
It is as though they are the governors of popular opinion. Courage under fire and standing by their decisions are not a high priority.
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But probably the line that topped it off for me was this:
It is with this in mind that Terry Wallace should be shaking in his Hugo Boss boots.
That displays a level of arrogance and conceited hypocrisy that shows his character for what it truly is. Hypocritic wanker.
And some on here want this guy as our next coach. :wallywink :banghead
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Bartlett saw out his contract, Jeans resigned (ill health), Northey resigned (better offer elsewhere), Walls sacked, Gieschen saw out his contract, Frawley saw out his contract.
Have to correct you there smokey
Gieschen did not see out his contract. He had 1 year to go on it and he resigned although it was common knowledge in the footy world that he quit before he was sacked.
we didn't renew Jewell's first contract just 12 months after a flag because we were afraid Bourke would go elsewhere like Sheeds did,
Again have to correct you MT - Jewell was very muched sacked. He had a 3 year ocntract and served 2 years and was sacked after 1981
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I agree Smokey all this coach changing is not part of our recent history and it's irrelevant to the club in 2009 so the media are trolling bringing it up nowdays but it was our history for 20 odd years or so there.
Yeah MT, I just get very frustrated with the myth. Yes, I agree that we had probably 10 years through the 80's when we were a coaches minefield but we haven't been for so long now that I just think it's totally unfair to the club for that perception to linger. And yes, I'm not that naive to think the media will let go of it anytime soon. >:( Thats why reading the article by that sanctimonious fool Thomas really got under my skin. Him, coming from a club that has had the same number of coaches as us in the past 20 years (7) AND they sacked 2 of them - 1 more than us - ANd he was one of them! Or maybe a Brisbane - 1 of the great clubs of the modern era - 7 coaches in the last 20 years and sacked 2 of them. Or maybe a Carlton - 6 coaches in the last 20 years and sacked 2 of them. I didn't read anywhere in his article where he described any of them as:
"The Tigers have a chequered history when it comes to patience with their incumbent coach. For better or for worse they usually sack then think.
It is as though they are the governors of popular opinion. Courage under fire and standing by their decisions are not a high priority.
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But probably the line that topped it off for me was this:
It is with this in mind that Terry Wallace should be shaking in his Hugo Boss boots.
That displays a level of arrogance and conceited hypocrisy that shows his character for what it truly is. Hypocritic wanker.
And some on here want this guy as our next coach. :wallywink :banghead
if Grant Thomas becomes coach of our club i will seriously consider giving it away.
I couldnt stand that prick at Stkilda and i cant stand him now. He is an undermining fuqwit who should never coach again.
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Caro and co. are coming on shortly at 10.30pm tonight. No doubt we'll be the lead story again.
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Summary
* Caro - no doubt Terry won't coach beyond this year and he knows it himself
* Thomas - you've made commitment and you stick by it (re: let Terry coach out the season).
* Hutchy said you can't keep him on in this situation and it never works. Caro said Tony Shaw stayed on, played the kids and everyone at Collingwood thanked him for it.
* This is what Caro would do:
- Would let Terry coach out of the year
- Leave any annoucement until midyear and then play kids and only kids for the rest of the season.
- Never play Brown again. Two thoughts on Joel.
- Offer Malthouse the job for the next 3 years.
* They replayed Pagan on ch 7 saying he wants to coach again. Caro said it was poor to do so on the day a coach is under seige and with Pagan coaching Wallace's son at the Northern Knights. They others didn't see any problem with it.
* They replayed snippets from March on SEN - no sheedy and there being a contigency plan. Thomas said March should have a contigency plan for himself. Got stuck into March for his comments a few weeks ago about his "see in 2-3 weeks time" comment. March should have been more definite in his support. You're either in or you're out. Hutchy said to Thomas that he has issues with presidents and March has been good with his support.
* They showed a list of our 30+ year olds - Richo, Joel, Browny, Cuz, Simmo and Johnson.
- Thomas would get rid of Cousins, Bowden and Johnson.
- Caro thinks Brown will go at the end of the year too.
- Lyon would look at all six. No one is beyond being looked at.
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Caro really wants Micky at Punt Rd. When the discussion got onto Collingwood she said if he stayed at the Pies he'd only get 2 more years at the most there whereas he could get 3 plus another 3 say at Richmond. Good old Hutchy said that's 6 years :wallywink. Caro also mentioned Malthouse saying he would coach another club after Collingwood.
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Caro really wants Micky at Punt Rd. When the discussion got onto Collingwood she said if he stayed at the Pies he'd only get 2 more years at the most there whereas he could get 3 plus another 3 say at Richmond. Good old Hutchy said that's 6 years :wallywink. Caro also mentioned Malthouse saying he would coach another club after Collingwood.
yep.
you get the feeling something is brewing at lexus centre and at Punt Road.
Malthouse would be magnificent at our club.
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Looks to me like Malthouse is doing a Sheedy.
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Thomas also said that TW had conducted himself with immense dignity and perhaps our president should try it ;D
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Thomas also said that TW had conducted himself with immense dignity and perhaps our president should try it ;D
One of the reasons why Wallace gets a lot of my support. He really is in control of his emotions which we need more people like that around the club :thumbsup
I'm not saying he's not passionate about what he's doing either, but that he doesn't let it hurt his role and what he's got to do.
Love him or hate him, no-one could criticise how he's represented the club IMO.
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Thomas also said that TW had conducted himself with immense dignity and perhaps our president should try it ;D
One of the reasons why Wallace gets a lot of my support. He really is in control of his emotions which we need more people like that around the club :thumbsup
I'm not saying he's not passionate about what he's doing either, but that he doesn't let it hurt his role and what he's got to do.
Love him or hate him, no-one could criticise how he's represented the club IMO.
l agree he does handle himself very well, with some of them reporter questions. l be more like Mark Harvey & Mark Williams ;D
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* Thomas - you've made commitment and you stick by it (re: let Terry coach out the season).
Like Blight at St. Kilda??
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you get the feeling something is brewing at lexus centre and at Punt Road.
Malthouse would be magnificent at our club.
Malthouse with Buckley as an assistant??
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Caro was on again tonight this time on 3aw with Healy and Russell...
* It is a crisis but some people (in the media) are getting a touch hysterical about Richmond.
* Terry could very well see out the year but she believes there will be a caretaker eventually and she quoted the papers today saying it'll be King or Royal.
* She repeated she wants Malthouse to coach Richmond. She put it out there that Malthouse may decide to leave Collingwood and coach elsewhere before Collingwood makes a decision
* A caller rang in and said Richo is a nice bloke and works hard but he blamed Richo's "bad attitude" (demeanour on the field) and says he needs to go as this "bad attitude" is holding the side back and a bad example to the young players. Caro disagreed but she said Grant Thomas has this view of Richo too. Caro said Richo is one of the reasons people go to the football. Crowds have been unbelievable for Richmond this year.
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Caro was on again tonight this time on 3aw with Healy and Russell...
* Terry could very well see out the year but she believes there will be a caretaker eventually and she quoted the papers today saying it'll be King or Royal.
that's what I call covering all bases or a nice each way bet ::)
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that's what I call covering all bases or a nice each way bet ::)
iirc a week and a bit ago on FC she said that Wallace would be gone if we lost to Melbourne, might have to check the tape.
But she is certainly having a bob each way atm!!
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Not much new on Richmond this week....
* Caro and Hutchy said that Mattner tackle changed the game. Richmond would have gone on and won if Jack levels the scores.
* They all said in hindsight said Richo shouldn't have played. Caro said he was clearly sore and Richo said today he'll miss next week. Hutchy said it isn't as big of a loss as it once was. Richmond has shown it plays just as well without him and has other more varied options. Even last year when Richo was on fire he wasn't vital to our fortunes. Lyon said you would hope so too given we would've been planning for life after Richo.
* Caro said Cousins shouldn't play this week and needs more gametime at Coburg but the club has a dilemma on its hands as Coburg has the bye and she doesn't think Cuz will want to run around in the Coburg 2nds. Someone should have told her Coburg 2nds also have the bye.
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* They all said in hindsight said Richo shouldn't have played. Caro said he was clearly sore and Richo said today he'll miss next week. Hutchy said it isn't as big of a loss as it once was. Richmond has shown it plays just as well without him and has other more varied options. Even last year when Richo was on fire he wasn't vital to our fortunes. Lyon said you would hope so too given we would've been planning for life after Richo.
You would like to think so and one reason why I am thinking to not replace Richo with a KPP forward, we would appear to have been too focused on a central target in the past and as the ones we have in backup are struggling it may be better just to bring a small to mid sized forward so the players look for the best option.
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Caro said tonight that she believes Bowden, Johnson and Browny will be gone at the end of the year. Richo to decide whether he stays at the end of the season. Simmo and Cuz to stay on into 2010.
Caro and the Age are running the story tomorrow that Terry is about to be sacked whereas The Australian is running that Terry should stay on until the end of his contract.
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Hutchy in the lead-in ad break said tonight they are going to talk about "our loss".
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They showed two boo-boos we made in the last 90 secs. Lyon first showed Morton kick OOTF and then at the throw-in on the wing it looked like it was Mitch? who ran away from the stoppage leaving two Port players on their own who gained possession of the footy and then he and two other Tigers were caught in no-mans land all alone at CHB as the ball went over their heads to 1-on-1 contests 20m out from Port's goal where Tredrea took the mark.
Hutchy said he still thinks we have a sneaky chance to make the Eight :o given our completely different midfield with Cuz, Cotch and Cogs. The draw opens up now and Richmond came home strongly in the second half of the season last year. He said the Board should tell Plough tomorrow night that this is his last year no matter what happens but that he'll coach the rest of the year out and for us to go all out to win. Hutchy said all this about us straight after saying Melbourne who are also on 1-7 that although they are good enough to beat half the competition based on the past few weeks they should tank to get the priority pick and the leadership group should be told off if they start winning :whistle. Lyon got touchy and tried to act in denial that it happens.
Just as an aside they put up an interesting graphic showing all the indigenous small forwards recruited since 2004 (first one was Aaron Davey) in an effort to apply defensive pressure within the forward 50 were all either late picks (60+) or rookies. Thomas added that Milne albeit non-indigenous was also a rookie and Caro of course added Nahas as another small rookie off the rookie list.
Caro said Nahas' performances since coming into the side off the rookie list are an indictment on their rest of our forwards who need to do something.
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Morton was described by Thomas as having delusions of grandeur.......It was more like a total brain implosion
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They showed two boo-boos we made in the last 90 secs. Lyon first showed Morton kick OOTF and then at the throw-in on the wing it looked like it was Mitch? who ran away from the stoppage leaving two Port players on their own who gained possession of the footy and then he and two other Tigers were caught in no-mans land all alone at CHB as the ball went over their heads to 1-on-1 contests 20m out from Port's goal where Tredrea took the mark.
On the couch showed one mistake that led to Tredrea's mark in the last minute. Our runner came on and pointed to Moore (who was on Ebert apparently) telling him to get back into the space in front of Tredrea. Moore only got half way back (if that) when the now untagged Ebert got a free possession - long kick, mark, the rest is history. The comment was that Moore should have made a much better effort in sprinting back although in his defence, Hird said that it's not the easiest thing to do at the end of a game. My opinion? What was the runner doing taking him from his man directly from within the contest?????
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Thomas also said that TW had conducted himself with immense dignity and perhaps our president should try it ;D
One of the reasons why Wallace gets a lot of my support. He really is in control of his emotions which we need more people like that around the club :thumbsup
I'm not saying he's not passionate about what he's doing either, but that he doesn't let it hurt his role and what he's got to do.
Love him or hate him, no-one could criticise how he's represented the club IMO.
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Hutchy said he still thinks we have a sneaky chance to make the Eight :o given our completely different midfield with Cuz, Cotch and Cogs. The draw opens up now and Richmond came home strongly in the second half of the season last year. He said the Board should tell Plough tomorrow night that this is his last year no matter what happens but that he'll coach the rest of the year out and for us to go all out to win.
Sounds like a recipe for another ninth finish
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What I found most "interesting" last night was how all of them were on the Benny bangwagon.
They were saying how good he was for our young players, how well he played etc. Thomas said he had been most impressed with Cousins leadership out on the ground..... Caro said he was just devastated after the game, Lyon said he (Cuz) had taken it upon himself to try and lift the team
After round 1 or 2 I think it was it more critical than complimentary :lol
Footy is a funny game
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Caro said tonight ...... Richo to decide whether he stays at the end of the season.
Well she obviously didn't see One Week at a Time.
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It was funny WP seeing them all now ardent Cuz fans. Wasn't Caro against us picking up Ben?
They showed two boo-boos we made in the last 90 secs. Lyon first showed Morton kick OOTF and then at the throw-in on the wing it looked like it was Mitch? who ran away from the stoppage leaving two Port players on their own who gained possession of the footy and then he and two other Tigers were caught in no-mans land all alone at CHB as the ball went over their heads to 1-on-1 contests 20m out from Port's goal where Tredrea took the mark.
On the couch showed one mistake that led to Tredrea's mark in the last minute. Our runner came on and pointed to Moore (who was on Ebert apparently) telling him to get back into the space in front of Tredrea. Moore only got half way back (if that) when the now untagged Ebert got a free possession - long kick, mark, the rest is history. The comment was that Moore should have made a much better effort in sprinting back although in his defence, Hird said that it's not the easiest thing to do at the end of a game. My opinion? What was the runner doing taking him from his man directly from within the contest?????
Because Kel should have been heading back into defence on his own accord or teammates telling him and others to as well. If he and other 3 had done so then they would've made it and clogged Port's forward line. There was less than a minute to go. It's not rocket science. The Port runner didn't need to tell Tredrea to head into defence after they hit the front. He was yelling and screaming to his players to get behind the ball.
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The Port runner didn't need to tell Tredrea to head into defence after they hit the front. He was yelling and screaming to his players to get behind the ball.
Pity Tredrea's opponent didn't follow him (he should have) ... who was it again >:( ;D
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If the team and coach had agreed to play man-on-man footy as the gameplan and stick to it, I could imagine Kel thinking he was doing the right thing to stick to Ebert rather than choosing to play as loose man in defence.
I guess it gets down to the agreed tactics between the coach and the senior players for certain situations during a game and whether they implement those tactics automatically or wait for instructions.
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Damned if you do and damned if you don't at our club. "Scapegoats 'r us"
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I wonder if Caro will get stuck into Hutchy tonight.
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Summary of tonight's show.....
* Hutchy reckons Plough has 1-2 games left. The club will allow him to reach his 500 game milestone as a player/coach. Terry's manager from ESP and Craig Cameron met today. Talked about the usual things but Hutchy added you'd be pretty sure Plough's situation would've come up in conversation. The Club has told Terry's manager that they've agreed that they'll pay out Wallace in full even if he decides to walk.
* Thomas says Gary March and the Board haven't provided the required leadership in what is essentially a footy dept (player/coach/footy manager) issue. They've been conspicious by their absence and they've let this issue fester for far too long. Everyone including his 8 year old son knows Terry is going. The Board should come out on the front foot. Thomas believes all this stems from the Board not backing Terry since last year and the clash March and Plough had last year. He said things like this go right through the club and playing group like a cancer. Caro defended March and the Board. She said Gary was at the meeting and spoke to them media after the Board meeting and they've handled what is a difficult situation well and stuck to their guns about having a midyear review and leaving all decisions till then. Hutchy agreed with Caro.
* On the game - Caro thought the celebration of goals and hi-5s were a bit over the top but maybe that's her. Lyon said it was always going to be interesting how the players reacted to the week and Newman who was at the centre of it all came out like a man possessed.
* They replayed Richo on AFL Gameday calling it a disgrace that Sugar and Simmo were singled out. Caro said tough as they were both involved.
* Lyon told Hutchy that Kingy wants to see him and Hutchy replied "Well Jake King, you shouldn't have gone to the meeting". Lyon still finds it funny Jake King was involved.
* Lyon asked Hutchy and Caro if they regret or take back anything the media has said over the past week. Caro said well Hutchy admitted he got it wrong and apologised. Hutchy got his back up and said he never apologised (still doesn't) and he never said Terry was sacked but that it would be a near certainty that he would at the meeting. Caro said well he wasn't sacked so the media (Hutchy) got it wrong. Caro said the Age's reports were accurate. Hutchy grumbled the show had become The Caro Show.
Benny Gale was then interviewed...
* Caro said Benny and Cambo were very vocal leaders in their time as players. She said it's been a problem at Richmond for a long time. The players removed Geischen. Gale said he found the suggestion that he went to the coach and got him sacked offensive. He finds it hard to believe a player would do it and all he's heard since coming back to Oz is innuendo. There's been no proof of anything said. Caro replied no one has come out and denied it. They've just been upset that it's been leaked.
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I'm so disappointed Caro didn't have the guts to ask Benny if he would be interested in going on the Richmond Board in the future.
Anyone have any record of Gales thoughts on this?
Tiger circus continues unfortunately. Ge it hurts. Never thought I'd want to not listen to my footy club news, just very repetitive every where you go, would love to know how Polak is recoverying or Rance? Can't believe no reporter has mentioned how Richo is coming along or even if Cousins could play this week or not?....
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cant wait for this show to be axed, who stay up & watch such crap
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I'm so disappointed Caro didn't have the guts to ask Benny if he would be interested in going on the Richmond Board in the future.
Anyone have any record of Gales thoughts on this?
Gale has made it very clear that while he is head of the AFLPA there is no way he will become involved at Board level and thatin the short to medium term it isnt on his agenda
Benny Gale was then interviewed...
* Caro said Benny and Cambo were very vocal leaders in their time as players. She said it's been a problem at Richmond for a long time. The players removed Geischen. Gale said he found the suggestion that he went to the coach and got him sacked offensive. He finds it hard to believe a player would do it and all he's heard since coming back to Oz is innuendo. There's been no proof of anything said. Caro replied no one has come out and denied it. They've just been upset that it's been leaked.
I had a giggle when this bit came up ;D All last week I kept thinking of the Giesch days and how the rumours of the time were that the players had a lot to do with his demise... Gale wasn't happy :rollin
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I had a giggle when this bit came up ;D All last week I kept thinking of the Giesch days and how the rumours of the time were that the players had a lot to do with his demise... Gale wasn't happy :rollin
I think I'm turning, I love Caro lol :rollin
She's as tough as, holds her head high always and stands by what she says
It was a question I loved, whether it's true or not.
There is a perception about the power of the team in getting rid of coaches in the past. And that perception we really don't want to see continue on into the next generation.
As I said, I liked it and particularly liked seeing Ben squirm in his seat lol
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Here's the video of last night's show
Footy Classified: The panel discuss further developments in the relationship between coach Terry Wallace...
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=8FB47E7A-8354-409F-8569-982347DE9EBD (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=8FB47E7A-8354-409F-8569-982347DE9EBD)
Footy Classified: AFL Players' Association CEO Brendon Gale jumps into the Hot Seat to be grilled by...
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=DAB6C9DB-9C08-41AD-B548-639023F08A50 (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=DAB6C9DB-9C08-41AD-B548-639023F08A50)
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Caro and Hutchy will be fighting over who knew the news first :wallywink
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Caro and Hutchy will be fighting over who knew the news first :wallywink
Hutchy knew 2 weeks ago ;)
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Caro and Hutchy will be fighting over who knew the news first :wallywink
Hutchy knew 2 weeks ago ;)
who's your tip for the replacement Jack?
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They tried to get Gary March on the show tonight.
Gary March apparently said he would not appear as long as Grant Thomas was on the show. :thumbsup
Grant said March has been unimpressive in all this.
Caro thinks otherwise.
The Herald Sun website still got the message wrong at 12:18 regarding Terry claiming he had coached his last game at the club. :wallywink
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Brief summary....
* Terry is angry tonight when Caro contacted him. He thought today's media conference would end the media hyperbole. However some journos from the Herald-Sun tonight tried to pay Kerryn his wife off for a story and then stalked and approached his kids at their home while he and Kerryn were out at dinner.
* Smorgan happy with Terry and has accepted the apology unreservedly. Takes a man to admit you were wrong and Terry is welcome back there.
* Article in the Age tomorrow about the Terry/Sydney story.
* Caro said a coaching subcommittee is being/has been formed to choose our next coach.
* Thomas didn't think a career coach would see us as appealing given the way we've handled things.
* Lyon said we should just go out and get the best coach.
* Caro would go with a young coach. An experienced coach like Malthouse or Williams would be costly. The club still has a $3.5m debt and instead of forking out $700k minimum for such a experienced coach the money would be better spent in other areas.
* Thomas said we need a coach who knows what to do from the start. You can't have someone who needs 2-3 years learning on the job.
* Herald-Sun website got it wrong again at 12:18 saying Terry had coached his last game.
* March wouldn't come on the show with Thomas there. Thomas said there's no issue he just thinks March has been unimpressive.
* Thomas said it would get interesting with a caretaker coach if the club suddenly and bizarrely won something like the next 12 games and made a Preliminary Final. Caro said he'd probably get the job. Hutchy said we've got a soft draw in the second half of the year.
* They spent about a 10 secs on Cuz and most of that was Caro asking Lyon why it's called the "bird" and Lyon not knowing either.
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lmao-hard nosed bitch,Caro loves Ben Cousins now - hahaha
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Caro and Hutchy will be fighting over who knew the news first :wallywink
Hutchy knew 2 weeks ago ;)
who's your tip for the replacement Jack?
The club offered Rawlings as a caretaker coach at the meeting at Marchs office 2 weeks ago. Only as a caretaker though
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Dunstall and Quartermain were pretty funny carrying on like turkeys on MMM :wallywink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpQ444I2NhY
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Caro and Hutchy will be fighting over who knew the news first :wallywink
Hutchy knew 2 weeks ago ;)
who's your tip for the replacement Jack?
The club offered Rawlings as a caretaker coach at the meeting at Marchs office 2 weeks ago. Only as a caretaker though
amazing the rubbish on the radio today ::)
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and whats even more amazing that Hutchy knew that Jade would be caretaker coach before the meeting at Marchs office, interesting stuff hey ;)
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Went into my newsagent earlier this week and he asked how I thought Campbell would go and I told him I had it on good authority that Rawlings would get the job and they all laughed.
Today when I went in they gave me a free copy of the Financial Review (my reading of choice) and were bowing as I left :shh
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mjs you didnt have it on good authority, you had it on best authority, :lol :lol :lol ;)
just put your $$$$$$$$ on the tiges next week.
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mjs you didnt have it on good authority, you had it on best authority, :lol :lol :lol ;)
just put your $$$$$$$$ on the tiges next week.
are we going with +39.5 or will it be a good 60+ job ;D
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Ramps.
15.5 points plus for a start,. see what odds they put up :thumbsup
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Went into my newsagent earlier this week and he asked how I thought Campbell would go and I told him I had it on good authority that Rawlings would get the job and they all laughed.
Today when I went in they gave me a free copy of the Financial Review (my reading of choice) and were bowing as I left :shh
;) ;) ;) :cheers
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Malthouse on Footy Classified tonight. Caro or Hutchy will most likely ask him about coaching Richmond.
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And I am sure Micky will answer that while he is still coach at skunkville.
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On One's OWAAT they had Mick as now equal favourite with Campbell at $4 with the bookies to become our coach next year.
Malthouse $4
Campbell $4
Buckley $7
Hardwick $12
Hinkley $12
Rawlings $26
Sheedy $51
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Any reports on tonights show would be great as I normally tape it at about 12.30am but the 20-20 cricket is on instead. :thumbsup
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• Caro says Richmond picked right person (Rawlings) to coach but believes he won’t be there next year.
• Thommo impressed with Rawlings decisiveness
• Caro thinks we need someone younger to coach – Hinkley Cameron Hardwick
• Thommo go for older experienced coach.
• Lyon get rid of selfishness – pointed out mcmahon not covering for lids, we don’t cover for each other we seem to make deals to cover then do not, stating McMahon again will not have teammates trust.
• Malthouse on next
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Thanks CUB, great stuff.. :thumbsup
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• Malthouse went over today’s game with the panel, worked hard to get list together bla bla getting games into younger players, play senior players and interchange the young players through the team
• Caro says do you expect to be there next year
• Malthouse doesn’t worry about that stuff.
• Caro asked if he was proud of what he achieved if it ended this year. Malthouse doesn’t base it on premierships but Stability cut the list in 2003 cause they knew they were no good, put club in position of strength
• Are you tempted to coach your former club, not even interested in talking about that (surprise surprise)
• Is it a good time to coach Richmond, Malthouse says it is, but doesn’t worry that at this stage.
• At the end of the year will worry/think about those sort of things.
• Is coaching a young mans game was a question, Mick thinks more experience the better.
• Asked opinion on Buckley as coach, he says there are riders on everyone.
• Bourke Cloke and Hart were long term good players that didn’t make it.
• Jeans played 66 games and did.
• Still thinks Bucks will be a good coach but still there is riders.
• 600th game for Mick next week
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Cheers CUB :cheers. I did a summary as well
* Caro is happy with the caretaker choice of Jade but she added Rawlings won't be coach for long. He's not a contender for the full-time position.
* Thomas had heard Rawlings about a month ago during a quarter break huddle and he said Jade was very impressive in that situation. Decisive and gives clear instructions to the players. He'll be learning on the job but he's been given a great opportunity.
* They replayed March on MMM Saturday saying the selection processes weren't right when selecting Wallace and not all of the Board were involved. Caro said of course it wasn't as it was a Casey and Miller decision. Even those who were happy with the choice of Wallace were uncomfortable with the process.
* Caro ws asked by Hutchy who she wants to coach Richmond. She said as a footy lover who wants Richmond to do well the Tigers should go for a younger coach and not go back to a Malthouse or Matthews. Thomas questioned whether a young coach could handle a volatile club like Richmond and Caro responded by saying the club's not volatile like before and there's stability at Board level. She likes what she hears about Hardwick, Hinkley and Leon Cameron and given it worked at Hawthorn with Clarkson why not go down that path.
* Caro mentioned the playing group has a massive culture problem and those responsible for it won't be there next year.
* As an example Gary showed McMahon making a deal in the backline with Lids that Jordie would mind Picken freeing up Lids. In the very next play Jordie didn't hold up his part of the deal and Picken goaled with Lids 50m off Picken. Gary said it's systematic of a selfish playing group who won't work for each other and break deals on the field. You lose faith in your teammates when they do that. Why should I do my part if my teammate doesn't hold up his. Compare that to Collingwood who always work for each other. He's not making excuses for Deledio as he had a shocker but McMahon really let Deledio down in that instance.
* Malthouse said the Richmond job isn't an issue. He's happy at Collingwood. Hutchy asked if it'll be a good job to coach Richmond? Mick said it'll be a good job for someone. Hutchy then asked if you weren't coaching Collingwood would you consider it? Mick said he's not going to talk or worry about until the end of the year. It (Richmond job) obviously bothers other people but it doesn't bother him.
* Thomas asked Mick if you aren't coaching next year what would will you do? Mick said he hasn't given a thought what happens beyond Oct 31 when his contract runs out. He then added except for the IR job.
* On Bucks -- what you see as a player is what you get a person. No doubt he'll be a good coach but the question will be can he handle the other things involved in coaching - getting on with players, handling imperfection, etc. Mick brought up he played with 3 of the greatest players at Richmond - Francis Bourke, KB and Royce Hart - and all 3 didn't last more than 3-4 years as a coach. Allan Jeans played 66 games and is a coaching legend.
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Do a lot better job than the CUB one eye :thumbsup
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Thanks to both of you guys, feels like I watched the show... :bow
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Most interesting thing I heard Mick say and it was a blink and you'll miss it comment was when talking about whether he'd been a success at Collingwood.
When he was tlaking about the stability thing he siad one of the first things he is responsible for is to ensure that the senior coach position is respected. Caro then jumped in and asked something so nothing else was said on that.. I thought it was an interesting thing to say and I was disappointed he wasn't allowed to finish the rest of that
Damn you Caro ;D
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The players need to respect the senior coach that's for sure and have believe in his message.
* Caro mentioned the playing group has a massive culture problem and those responsible for it won't be there next year.
* As an example Gary showed McMahon making a deal in the backline with Lids that Jordie would mind Picken freeing up Lids. In the very next play Jordie didn't hold up his part of the deal and Picken goaled with Lids 50m off Picken. Gary said it's systematic of a selfish playing group who won't work for each other and break deals on the field. You lose faith in your teammates when they do that. Why should I do my part if my teammate doesn't hold up his. Compare that to Collingwood who always work for each other. He's not making excuses for Deledio as he had a shocker but McMahon really let Deledio down in that instance.
The lack of shepherding sticks out too as another sign of selfishness. Not that it was enforced at training as part of the gameplan under Terry :P. An attitude of once I don't the ball anymore then stuff protecting my teammate :banghead.
Not sure how Caro can say those responsible for the poor culture won't be around next year when a few of them are contracted for next year and have zero trade value.
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As long as the stink plays at Coburg and has no chance to penetrate into the senior squad that will do me. Then bye bye and off to the suburban leagues.
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Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Cornflakes coming on in 10 minutes.
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Any reports would be greatly appreciated again because the cricket is on so we don't get the show again.
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Brief Summary
* Jackson - Caro mentioned Jacko has had many scalps as a tagger and given he was given a one-year contract extension at the start of the year he is making the most of it to fight for his career. Hutchy believes Jacko will get a new 2-year deal in the coming (2?) weeks.
* Tambling's last month - Caro said Tambling has been great and would be in a team of the month based on his past 4 weeks. Lyon didn't seem too impressed as he commented that Richie would've been in the VFL team of the month after the first month because he was dropped and the game on Saturday night would've been great to play in it was so lacklustre. Caro agreed the Eagles were poor especially in the first quarter. Thomas said he's now working a lot harder, influencing games and sparking the Tigers especially early on in games. All of Richie's stats have gone up dramatically in the last month including his disposal accuracy.
R1-8 R9-12
Disposals (avg): 18 25
Contested poss. 4 6
Disp. Accuracy 73% 86%
* Cousins - I think it was Lyon who brought up that other clubs would be interested in getting Cuz next year. Caro replied that given all Richmond has gone through in getting Cousins and dealing with all that went with him it would be highly unlikely that Cousins wouldn't be a Tiger next year. Lyon said he's just putting out there that other clubs would be interested.
They also showed Cuz giving a wry smile at the changeroom camera as he walked by.
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Thanks OE... ;)
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Caro also praised Rawlings. Describing him as "refreshing" in his dealings with the media. She said she wished more coaches were as honest as Rawlings ;D
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Caro also praised Rawlings. Describing him as "refreshing" in his dealings with the media. She said she wished more coaches were as honest as Rawlings ;D
Now, if only the media can be as honest in return. Parasitic hypocrite.
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Caro also praised Rawlings. Describing him as "refreshing" in his dealings with the media. She said she wished more coaches were as honest as Rawlings ;D
there have been numourous hidden messages coming from all, the media, the players and jade himself basically saying Terry was a stuffing hole dumbcunt
rawlings saying he will instill a consistant sustainable plan - (Tery had no idea what he was doiing as coach and changed the game plan willy nilly in panic and just copied other clubs bv he could not coach)
players coming out saying gr8 things about Jade and really honestly backing him -( proving all yr when they were saying they were behind terry was just for the media sake and to tow the companyt line)
media pointing out how the coaching group and players walking as one however Terry would always walk alone 20m ahead
- pointing out how Jade already has all united, as seen during th eteams son after the game
- the media picking up that moral at the club is at a high
i could go on
I hope terry saw the game on sat night and cried to bed . he would have really realised that he is a total failure and he couldnt handle that no matter how much money he stole from the club with his lies
terry has been going through a denial stage, he surely must know now that only his wife and kids love him and no one else because he is a full blown lying loser bastard
stuff you and your money terry
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Caro also praised Rawlings. Describing him as "refreshing" in his dealings with the media. She said she wished more coaches were as honest as Rawlings ;D
there have been numourous hidden messages coming from all, the media, the players and jade himself basically saying Terry was a effing behindhole dumbidiot
rawlings saying he will instill a consistant sustainable plan - (Tery had no idea what he was doiing as coach and changed the game plan willy nilly in panic and just copied other clubs bv he could not coach)
players coming out saying gr8 things about Jade and really honestly backing him -( proving all yr when they were saying they were behind terry was just for the media sake and to tow the companyt line)
media pointing out how the coaching group and players walking as one however Terry would always walk alone 20m ahead
- pointing out how Jade already has all united, as seen during th eteams son after the game
- the media picking up that moral at the club is at a high
i could go on
I hope terry saw the game on sat night and cried to bed . he would have really realised that he is a total failure and he couldnt handle that no matter how much money he stole from the club with his lies
terry has been going through a denial stage, he surely must know now that only his wife and kids love him and no one else because he is a full blown lying loser bastard
eff you and your money terry
FFS move on
:help
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move on no way
terry kept profiting on us and kicking us when we were down with his lies deceit and spin
i will continue to kick the boots into terry while he continues to show his face and wanna be heard
when he goes away from footy for good and the medai, i will stop
but then again. he gave us 5 yrs of bs, i will kick him down for 10 years
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TT...why dont you put the boots into Frawley too whilst you are at it.
Frawley traded away picks almost every year..Pick #17 for Stafford (james kelly)
pick #2 for sugar (daniel wells)
pick # 6 for brown (kepler bradley)
didnt he recruit steven sizzler....just a foot soldier...not a match winner at afl level.
So we ended up with an aging list with no "leg speed". On radio he continues to harp on about leg speed...maybe it is a phrase he learnt after 5 years with us.
Frawley took 5 of Richos best years....24 to 29 (or thereabouts i think).
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Caro also praised Rawlings. Describing him as "refreshing" in his dealings with the media. She said she wished more coaches were as honest as Rawlings ;D
Terry was a effing behindhole dumbidiot
Any mirrors in your house TT, "behindhole dumbidiot"....... amazing comments.
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move on no way
terry kept profiting on us and kicking us when we were down with his lies deceit and spin
i will continue to kick the boots into terry while he continues to show his face and wanna be heard
when he goes away from footy for good and the medai, i will stop
but then again. he gave us 5 yrs of bs, i will kick him down for 10 years
Do you think he reads OER?
All you are doing is giving us a giant pain in the butt.
Move on.
:sleep
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Plus some from me 1965
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sleep025.gif)
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frawely and u guys are telling me to move on lol
terry reads everything concerning him
dont worry about that
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I wonder if Hutchy tonight will have anymore groundbreaking news to match his 'Tambling having hypnotism' report :wallywink
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and Richmond players at 'Love Machine'?
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Any feedback again would be great please folks..... ;)
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Brief summary
Hutchy asked both Lyon and Thomas who they would choose between Richmond and North Melbourne if they were going for the job? Lyon said he would look at North first. Thomas said Richmond because there's something not AFL about North but he can't put his finger on it.
Caro said she couldn't see Buckley going to a under-resourced club like North and she would ask Brayshaw who is coming on later about North's financial position. She also said she doesn't think Buckley is particularly interested in Richmond either or North. Hutchy asked if Bucks would be better to wait a couple of years for the Collingwood job and Lyon replied sometimes you can wait too long. You've got to go for it.
Hutchy said to Caro that there's a conspiracy out there that Caro is running down North to boost Richmond's chances with Buckley. She said that's insane Hutchy as she has no connection with Richmnond and her dad was president a whole 24 years ago.
Thomas repeated his comments in his "loyalty" article about Plough annoying and knocking down doors of media outlets as he's very good at drumming up support for himself. Caro said he's definitely being paid at SEN.
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Thanks OE, sounds like it is a bit hot on the show tonight.
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One final thing, Thomas said there's an argument for draftees to not play AFL in their first year and for them to just concentrate on developing their game and building up their physique. He did it with Luke Ball who was doing his Year 12 at school in his first year at St Kilda.
Thanks OE, sounds like it is a bit hot on the show tonight.
As usual a lot of the 'heat' is contrived but Brayshaw pretty much put Caro to the sword tonight to the point she was pretty much speechless and back in her corner by the end. The other 3 mind you pretty much stayed out of it so Brayshaw wasn't bombarded from all sides. The problem with attacking Brayshaw now is he hasn't been around long enough as president to fail to deliver off-field and he knows how the media works. Also North supporters love him for stopping the GC move so there's no internal pressure within North despite them having won just one more game than us, them playing shocking footy, and having their coach jump before he was pushed. I guess no one cares lol.
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Good on you OE, thanks for the report.
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Brief summary
Hutchy said to Caro that there's a conspiracy out there that Caro is running down North to boost Richmond's chances with Buckley. She said that's insane Hutchy as she has no connection with Richmnond and her dad was president a whole 24 years ago.
Anyone ask Damien Barrett the same thing?
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As usual a lot of the 'heat' is contrived but Brayshaw pretty much put Caro to the sword tonight to the point she was pretty much speechless and back in her corner by the end. The other 3 mind you pretty much stayed out of it so Brayshaw wasn't bombarded from all sides. The problem with attacking Brayshaw now is he hasn't been around long enough as president to fail to deliver off-field and he knows how the media works. Also North supporters love him for stopping the GC move so there's no internal pressure within North despite them having won just one more game than us, them playing shocking footy, and having their coach jump before he was pushed. I guess no one cares lol.
I didn't think he put Caro to the sword. I thought he came across as pretty lame on the issue of the millions future fund he was going to set up. I also thought Lyon jumpingin and prattling on about "you don't speak for the public Caro" when she and Brayshaw were "discussing" his conflict in calling games came across as Lyon sticking up for his mate because Caro was going a bit to hard on him ;D
Brayshaw was certainly fired up but it was a bit of a non-event, like you said Mr One-Eyed no one cares :rollin
What was fun though was this morning on SEN with Patrick Smith taking the big stick to Eugena Arocca (sp?) - great stuff
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Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Cornflakes coming up now. Thomas will probably bag us.
No public decision at Port tonight on Mark Williams after a 9 hour meeting :o. Press conference tomorrow.
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Well if Williams goes the coaching merry go round should hot up.
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Hutchy received a phone call from a 'source' later in the show that said Williams has been reappointed. We'll find out if he's right tomorrow.
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Caro apparently has some coaching news tonight. Hutchy also said he's going to ask Caro later if she's behind the Sheedy push at Richmond.
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Caro apparently has some coaching news tonight. Hutchy also said he's going to ask Caro later if she's behind the Sheedy push at Richmond.
Please keep me informed on this one OE......... cheers.. :thumbsup
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Showed footage of Mark Blake pulling out of a contest. They are saying he is 3rd best ruckman now at the Cats
I just hope those rumours i heard of him on here dont come true.
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Caro very adamant Sheeds will not coach Richmond. Hutchy said the only chance this appeal for Sheeds will succeed if via public opinion. Caro replied the RFC after all its gone through and the mistakes made does anyone really think they will fall for this 3-card trick. It won't happen and Caro then said "I know it won't happen" which pricked the ears of Lyon and Thomas. Hutchy then agreed it won't happen. Caro brought up it's not about Sheeds' age either. It's about how every Essendon player you hear from over the past 2 years has said how happy they are now to know what is happening in terms of gameplan etc in a Tuesday meeting whereas under Sheeds they would be turning up not knowing what was going on. How there was a falling out with the players at Essendon. How Sheeds didn't even get close to getting the Melbourne job after being dumped by Essendon. This push is being lead by Francis Bourke and KB is leading it publicly. It won't happen and to her knowledge in a private meeting around the time Wallace's time was about to end March told Sheeds he won't coaching the RFC while the current Board and admin are there.
Caro also said Eddie was wrong. She said Eddie said the call for Sheedy to be coach would occur after round 4 versus Melbourne and it didn't happen so he was wrong. She doesn't take back anything she said about Eddie's comment after the Carlton game.
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
:gobdrop
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Richmond also got a "Good Call Bad Call" about us playing a home game on the Gold Coast which we lost. Caro defended it as the Club got $400k and unlike Carlton who should have never lost to Freo, Richmond is nowhere as good as Adelaide and wasn't going to win so it didn't matter.
Caro also didn't rule out Mark Williams still leaving Port Adelaide despite Port wanting him to stay. She thinks he'll stay but there's an uneasiness between the Club and Williams over non-money aspects of his new contract. If Williams did become available and wanted to coach elsewhere he'd have to go through the lengthy process at Richmond. Hutchy said North aren't interested in Williams.
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
:gobdrop
The decision on the new coach will be made well before the AGM in December and even then only 3 directors are up for re-election. Remember Wallace was appointed before the 2004 election fracas. The past players would have to either pressure the Board to resign en masse (ain't going to happen) or call for a EGM.
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
:gobdrop
The decision on the new coach will be made well before the AGM in December and even then only 3 directors are up for re-election. Remember Wallace was appointed before the 2004 election fracas. The past players would have to either pressure the Board to resign en masse (ain't going to happen) or call for a EGM.
Wont be the first or the last time a board member has resigned due to public pressure. You only need March to go for the board to change direction.
And it will not be the first time Kevin Sheedy has influenced how the Richmond board does business in the past 10 years....
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Caro on 3aw just now said she has no idea who our new coach will be but repeated it won't be Sheedy. It's not the direction the current board and admin want to go. They'll listen to him but he won't get the job. Richmond will go for an untried coach but if they did go for a experienced coach then don't rule out Mark Williams. No certainty he'll coach Port next year.
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
:gobdrop
The decision on the new coach will be made well before the AGM in December and even then only 3 directors are up for re-election. Remember Wallace was appointed before the 2004 election fracas. The past players would have to either pressure the Board to resign en masse (ain't going to happen) or call for a EGM.
Wont be the first or the last time a board member has resigned due to public pressure. You only need March to go for the board to change direction.
And it will not be the first time Kevin Sheedy has influenced how the Richmond board does business in the past 10 years....
March will step down at the end of 2010 but you'd hope the Club has learnt to stand up to public pressure. They've done so with the past two coaches seeing out their terms and although the past 5 years has been a failure at least now with this upcoming appointment we have 10-15 decent candidates putting their hand up to coach us and no one telling the Club no thanks in hell as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching. We've gone from only Spud applying, to Wallace and Eade, to now 15 applicants. The off-field stability has at least now paid off on that front. No point risking all that listening to old foggies in the past players association who have only screwed the club with their hissy fits for three decades. Some quality young coaches want the Richmond job and who can blame them now that there is a young core to build upon and develop and the club is bringing our footy dept facilities up to one of the best in the AFL over the next 12-18 months.
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This is a win-win situation.
We either follow the process and get the best man for the job, or hire Sheeds and Caro's credibility is in tatters.
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as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching.
That's unfair on Bradbury, he actually won something
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
:gobdrop
The decision on the new coach will be made well before the AGM in December and even then only 3 directors are up for re-election. Remember Wallace was appointed before the 2004 election fracas. The past players would have to either pressure the Board to resign en masse (ain't going to happen) or call for a EGM.
Wont be the first or the last time a board member has resigned due to public pressure. You only need March to go for the board to change direction.
And it will not be the first time Kevin Sheedy has influenced how the Richmond board does business in the past 10 years....
March will step down at the end of 2010 but you'd hope the Club has learnt to stand up to public pressure. They've done so with the past two coaches seeing out their terms and although the past 5 years has been a failure at least now with this upcoming appointment we have 10-15 decent candidates putting their hand up to coach us and no one telling the Club no thanks in hell as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching. We've gone from only Spud applying, to Wallace and Eade, to now 15 applicants. The off-field stability has at least now paid off on that front. No point risking all that listening to old foggies in the past players association who have only screwed the club with their hissy fits for three decades. Some quality young coaches want the Richmond job and who can blame them now that there is a young core to build upon and develop and the club is bringing our footy dept facilities up to one of the best in the AFL over the next 12-18 months.
Great post MT, lets hope that is exactly how the board are seeing things.
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March will step down at the end of 2010 but you'd hope the Club has learnt to stand up to public pressure. They've done so with the past two coaches seeing out their terms and although the past 5 years has been a failure at least now with this upcoming appointment we have 10-15 decent candidates putting their hand up to coach us and no one telling the Club no thanks in hell as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching. We've gone from only Spud applying, to Wallace and Eade, to now 15 applicants. The off-field stability has at least now paid off on that front. No point risking all that listening to old foggies in the past players association who have only screwed the club with their hissy fits for three decades. Some quality young coaches want the Richmond job and who can blame them now that there is a young core to build upon and develop and the club is bringing our footy dept facilities up to one of the best in the AFL over the next 12-18 months.
:thumbsup Good post MT.
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Thanks for the reports OE, great stuff as usual. :thumbsup
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That's unfair on Bradbury, he actually won something
LOL ;D
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Another boardroom battle looming??? Only way for past players collective to get Sheeds on as coach is to spill the board....
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The decision on the new coach will be made well before the AGM in December and even then only 3 directors are up for re-election. Remember Wallace was appointed before the 2004 election fracas. The past players would have to either pressure the Board to resign en masse (ain't going to happen) or call for a EGM.
Wont be the first or the last time a board member has resigned due to public pressure. You only need March to go for the board to change direction.
And it will not be the first time Kevin Sheedy has influenced how the Richmond board does business in the past 10 years....
March will step down at the end of 2010 but you'd hope the Club has learnt to stand up to public pressure. They've done so with the past two coaches seeing out their terms and although the past 5 years has been a failure at least now with this upcoming appointment we have 10-15 decent candidates putting their hand up to coach us and no one telling the Club no thanks in hell as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching. We've gone from only Spud applying, to Wallace and Eade, to now 15 applicants. The off-field stability has at least now paid off on that front. No point risking all that listening to old foggies in the past players association who have only screwed the club with their hissy fits for three decades. Some quality young coaches want the Richmond job and who can blame them now that there is a young core to build upon and develop and the club is bringing our footy dept facilities up to one of the best in the AFL over the next 12-18 months.
Agree 100% with this MT. But the club and the board are still prone to crumbling under pressure. Only need to look at how the recruiting process went out the window when Sheedy publically called for Cousins to be recruited. March & Cameron just didnt have the stomach to win that fight.
And go over to BF and see how many normally reasonable posters went in to bat for Sheedy to coach last week. Its hysterical how we never learn at this footy club.
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as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching.
That's unfair on Bradbury, he actually won something
Can anyone say Alistair Clarkson? :shh
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Agree 100% with this MT. But the club and the board are still prone to crumbling under pressure. Only need to look at how the recruiting process went out the window when Sheedy publically called for Cousins to be recruited. March & Cameron just didnt have the stomach to win that fight.
And go over to BF and see how many normally reasonable posters went in to bat for Sheedy to coach last week. Its hysterical how we never learn at this footy club.
Umm, no. March and Cameron didn't cave in they were deceived by the AFL who had promised what they couldn't deliver.
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as was the case when Spud became the Steven Bradbury of senior coaching.
That's unfair on Bradbury, he actually won something
Come on be fair...Spud won something too....A wooden spoon in his fifth year...
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He also took us to finals, something that history shows Walls Giesche and the Dried Sultana failed to do. For a job nobody wanted and just fell into his lap tell me who here did not think he was making a great fist of things in 2001 or in early 2002 when we made the pre season grand final?
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I still remember the old long gone Richmond forum "Tigerfury" going nuts when Spud said we were only a couple of goalkickers away and recruited Hudson and Houlihan at the end of 2001 :P.
Agree 100% with this MT. But the club and the board are still prone to crumbling under pressure. Only need to look at how the recruiting process went out the window when Sheedy publically called for Cousins to be recruited. March & Cameron just didnt have the stomach to win that fight.
And go over to BF and see how many normally reasonable posters went in to bat for Sheedy to coach last week. Its hysterical how we never learn at this footy club.
Umm, no. March and Cameron didn't cave in they were deceived by the AFL who had promised what they couldn't deliver.
Yep Demetriou saying Polak could go onto our rookie list a la Ramanaukas before Eddie had a public sook.
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Agree 100% with this MT. But the club and the board are still prone to crumbling under pressure. Only need to look at how the recruiting process went out the window when Sheedy publically called for Cousins to be recruited. March & Cameron just didnt have the stomach to win that fight.
And go over to BF and see how many normally reasonable posters went in to bat for Sheedy to coach last week. Its hysterical how we never learn at this footy club.
Umm, no. March and Cameron didn't cave in they were deceived by the AFL who had promised what they couldn't deliver.
Whatever the AFL did or didnt do, the club gave in to to public pressure. Unlike every other AFL club mind you. Sheedy was the only club "official" to be publically for the recruitment of Cousins. A lot of sway for a membership ambassador.
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Agree 100% with this MT. But the club and the board are still prone to crumbling under pressure. Only need to look at how the recruiting process went out the window when Sheedy publically called for Cousins to be recruited. March & Cameron just didnt have the stomach to win that fight.
And go over to BF and see how many normally reasonable posters went in to bat for Sheedy to coach last week. Its hysterical how we never learn at this footy club.
Umm, no. March and Cameron didn't cave in they were deceived by the AFL who had promised what they couldn't deliver.
Whatever the AFL did or didnt do, the club gave in to to public pressure. Unlike every other AFL club mind you. Sheedy was the only club "official" to be publically for the recruitment of Cousins. A lot of sway for a membership ambassador.
From what I believe the Club knew they were going to pick up Cuz at least a week or so before the PSD. I know one assistant coach gave a friend of mine who watches training a hint and a wink.
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
My God daniel you scared the hell out of me for a minute there, I thought you had completely lost your marbles once and for all and was talking about our Edwards.... :rollin
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
My God daniel you scared the hell out of me for a minute there, I thought you had completely lost your marbles once and for all and was talking about our Edwards.... :rollin
And holy crap I thought you were talking about Mike Tyson!!!!
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
Lol so you're one of the lemmings who have made his odds so short after the expert opinion of Hutchy and Gaddy gave us the "tip". :lol
Have you actually watched any Adelaide games this year? Scott Thompson and Chris Knights have performed far better, but yeah lets listen to Gaddy Lyon. :clapping
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
Lol so you're one of the lemmings who have made his odds so short after the expert opinion of Hutchy and Gaddy gave us the "tip". :lol
Have you actually watched any Adelaide games this year? Scott Thompson and Chris Knights have performed far better, but yeah lets listen to Gaddy Lyon. :clapping
As much as id like to say i have millions to throw away on games
$10 each way is hardly going to shorten the odds now is it dumb arse
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
My God daniel you scared the hell out of me for a minute there, I thought you had completely lost your marbles once and for all and was talking about our Edwards.... :rollin
:thumbsup good one
now then i will need to see a shrink
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any of you punters jump on Edwards after it was mentioned on Footy Classified he is their smokey for the Brownlow.
I was online and put some cash straight away and got 1000/1 for an each way bet
a minute later went on again to put another bet on and his price dropped to 250/1
he is now 17/1 after it was reported on the HUN yesterday.
COME ON TYSON!!
Lol so you're one of the lemmings who have made his odds so short after the expert opinion of Hutchy and Gaddy gave us the "tip". :lol
Have you actually watched any Adelaide games this year? Scott Thompson and Chris Knights have performed far better, but yeah lets listen to Gaddy Lyon. :clapping
As much as id like to say i have millions to throw away on games
$10 each way is hardly going to shorten the odds now is it dumb behind
Regardless plenty of $5-20 bets make the odds crunch hard when a player is at long odds and you were one of them. Best of luck to you but I'll make my own opinion up on who are good roughies rather than relying on a TV show.
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Bump.
Caro and Lyon will talk about Richmond and Sheeds tonight.
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Great and again any reports would be appreciated... cheers. By the way who likes my new avatar???
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Great and again any reports would be appreciated... cheers. By the way who likes my new avatar???
Fantastic WAT :thumbsup
Your profile message should now read go Tigers in 2009/10 and onwards.
2007 is so Terry Wallace.
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Great and again any reports would be appreciated... cheers. By the way who likes my new avatar???
Fantastic WAT :thumbsup
Your profile message should now read go Tigers in 2009/10 and onwards.
2007 is so Terry Wallace.
Thanks TB, yeah I did change that to 2010 it musn't have worked I will do it again.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but I hope this works..
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Summary - 13/7/09
They replayed Lloyd saying tonight that Sheeds lost the older players in the last 4-5 years. Tactically they struggled.
Caro said that's no surprise as Essendon let him go. She said legendary coaches are given more leeway at clubs and a few more years than they should.
Thomas said not to confuse his time at Essendon with going for a new job. He still thinks Sheeds is capable. Hutchy said he disagrees with Caro.
Caro said she disagreed with that strongly. She said Sheeds had must have known deep down he wasbn't wanted as coach. She called him selfish for putting his hand up. He has 3 previous lucrative offers to come to Richmond and rejected them.
Thomas said Matthews left Collingwood and won 3 flags at Brisbane. Caro said what about at the end of his time at Brisbane.
Caro said sheeds gave Lloyd and Essendon a whack on the way out in his book and he's now given Richmond a whack.
Lyon said Sheeds' comments about him and Melbourne is a straight out lie. It's sad that he fabricated a story for such a legend. Lyon still thinks he can coach.
Caro feels for March. He's made some mistakes but he's tried to get the club back on track and follow a process.
The stuff on a certain radio station this week (KB and Patrick Smith on SEN) was a soap opera. Something dreamt up in their minds believing it was true when it wasn't.
Thomas said Sheeds is playing all of you on the break.
Lyon said that's fine but if your integrity is questioned by him stating things as facts then that's wrong. Thomas said it was just and opinion piece.
Caro then said that civil war at Richmond talk .... oh please!
On Bucks - Hutchy believes he won't be assistant coach at Collingwood. He's either be a senior coach or assistant coach at another club. Caro believes Mick and Bucks are too head strong to work together.
Hutchy doesn't believe Collingwood know what they are doing with Malthouse. Caro feels Eddie has backed Mick at the start of the season and is following a process more than previously.
On tanking - Caro believes Melbourne should win games on end. They have the young talent and don't need to chase the No.1 pick. Lyon, Hutchy and Thomas disagreed. Lyon said the heart says win but the head says otherwise. No one remembers Melbourne's win over Carlton in 2007 but it potentially cost the Demons Kreuzer, Watts and Naitanui or Rich. Hutchy says the only business decision for Melbourne is to not win more than 4 games.
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Great report OE great and thank you, interesting times ahead, I will agree with Hutchy on Buckley I have held the same thoughts all along, but time will tell. I think the Sheedy thing just needs to go away now and bury it's self once and for all. As far as tanking goes.... I hate the talk surrounding it, weak clubs with no pride will tank thats all.
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They all now love Cuz. Lyon said before Cuz was running around the back a lot getting cheap handballs but now he's playing really well. Thomas expects him to go around next year. Hutchy said he will as someone will have him but mostly likely he'll remain at Richmond. Hutchy also said it's an amazing story. A drug addict whose comes back to the game and is now leading the midfield.
They also showed Kel, Lucky and Thursty not understanding the rush behind rule. Lyon said by round 15 you should know the rule and blamed the players themselves. The coach should drag the player by the ear to Geisch's office to understand what is and isn't allowed. They checked with the umpires and any of the three could have walked/handballed over the line and been okay as they were under pressure.
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They all now love Cuz. Lyon said before Cuz was running around the back a lot getting cheap handballs but now he's playing really well. Thomas expects him to go around next year. Hutchy said he will as someone will have him but mostly likely he'll remain at Richmond. Hutchy also said it's an amazing story. A drug addict whose comes back to the game and is now leading the midfield.
They also showed Kel, Lucky and Thursty not understanding the rush behind rule. Lyon said by round 15 you should know the rule and blamed the players themselves. The coach should drag the player by the ear to Geisch's office to understand what is and isn't allowed. They checked with the umpires and any of the three could have walked/handballed over the line and been okay as they were under pressure.
Great about Cuz and we must keep him but if thats what they are saying about the rushed behind rule then they had better drag me to Geish's office as well????????
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They also showed Kel, Lucky and Thursty not understanding the rush behind rule. Lyon said by round 15 you should know the rule and blamed the players themselves. The coach should drag the player by the ear to Geisch's office to understand what is and isn't allowed. They checked with the umpires and any of the three could have walked/handballed over the line and been okay as they were under pressure.
Great about Cuz and we must keep him but if thats what they are saying about the rushed behind rule then they had better drag me to Geish's office as well????????
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I will need to go as well WAT. I thought the criteria was whether it was a deliberate rushed behind or not. However from reading above it would appear the criteria is whether there is pressure or not.
I am not too sure how that would stamp out acts like Bowden's last year, Bowden holds the ball in the square waits until time on is called, then waits until a defender applies pressure and then handalls it for a point deliberately. Or is this situation deemed pressure of the players own making?
Anyway I'm confused, it has probably been well canvassed in VIC but I hadn't come across this interpretation of the rule.
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I will need to go as well WAT. I thought the criteria was whether it was a deliberate rushed behind or not. However from reading above it would appear the criteria is whether there is pressure or not.
I am not too sure how that would stamp out acts like Bowden's last year, Bowden holds the ball in the square waits until time on is called, then waits until a defender applies pressure and then handalls it for a point deliberately. Or is this situation deemed pressure of the players own making?
Anyway I'm confused, it has probably been well canvassed in VIC but I hadn't come across this interpretation of the rule.
It is about pressure.
The example they showed on FC is a good one (and not the first time it's happened in 2009). We wouldn't have been pinged because there were 3 or 4 Blues players involved. If it had been 1 blue against 3 tgiers and we conceded it would have mostly likely been deemed deliberate.
It has to be an absolute last resort to concede. Which on Saturday it would have been. Actually what we should have done is actually handballed into a Carton player forcing to come of them and through for a point
What you say about the Bowden thing is right also, at a kick out there really isn't any pressure unless the player creates it himself.
What it clearly shows is the players don't know the rule
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Well it's a stupid unclear rule then IMO if the players don't even understand it a bit like the hands in the back rule.
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Thanks for the clarification WP :thumbsup
What it clearly shows is the players don't know the rule
Either that or some are unwilling to place their faith in the interpretation of an ump when the alternative is a certain goal to the opposition in a tight match
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Bump.
Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Thomas the tank engine coming up now.
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Summary - 20/7/09
* Caro doesn't believe Buckley will end up at Richmond.
* North are favourites but the word around is there's no certainty Bucks will coach in a senior capacity next year. The assistant roles could be at Collingwood or Hawthorn. Bucks being an assistant at Collingwood is the intriguing one. Caro doesn't believe it will work between Bucks and Malthouse.
* Tigers are interested in Malthouse but we won't step in. Hutchy and Thomas said now would be a good time to step in and chase Malthouse. Caro replied Richmond wants to stick to their process. Thomas said football clubs are notorious for changing their minds.
* Caro asked Thomas which list would he prefer out of Richmond and North given both couldn't be split after 2 hours. Thomas said he couldn't care less about either to be honest but he's not sure why there's all this talk about lists. If you want to be a coach you want to go to a club and make an impact. So you would choose Richmond. Richmond is the sleeper. There is hero status waiting for the person who can turn that club around after 30 years. Sure there are list management decisions that need to be made but North need to do the same as well.
* They spoke about tanking but nothing knew. Thomas said Demetriou and the AFL put their collective heads in the sand when it comes to the tough issues and ridicule those that make the criticisms or suggestions. He said he can guarantee people at footy clubs can make sure it's difficult for teams to win.
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* In the 'good call/bad call' segment, Caro argued that Tambling's excellent current form is due more to Rawlings' coaching than the hypnotist he went to. She said Richie played a couple of good games under Wallace but since Rawlings has taken charge Richie hasn't played a single poor game under Jade.
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The latest on the coaching jobs will obviously be a topic on tonight's show.
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Summary - 27/7/09
* Hutchy saying Buckley will be at the Pies. They replayed a few public statements by Bucks this year including the one earlier in the season where Bucks said he's learnt all he can from Malthouse. Hutchy believes Eddie and Collingwood think they may have some idea in their heads to come up with a new innovative coaching set up that the AFL hasn't seen before.
* Malthouse to be confirmed to continue as coach at the Pies as early as tomorrow according to Hutchy.
* Eddie was interviewed after the Pies Board meeting tonight and refused to comment on the coaching situation. Played dumb to all the reporters' questions. The reporters were claiming the Collingwood players have been told there's a meeting and to be at the club tomorrow morning.
* They then showed Jade's press conference. Caro said Jade has changed his tune since he first started when he said he was just warming the seat for the new guy. Thomas said he likes the way Rawlings has gone about things but he lacks presence. Caro added that Jade could even be a chance now for the North job.
* Thomas said he can't understand why Richmond didn't go after Malthouse. Caro said their sticking to the "process" Grant.
* Lyon likes Jack Riewoldt. Likes his attitude. Some may say he's over confident but he wants to be out there in the action. His kicking has been ordinary but he kicked well yesterday.
* A brief mention of Cuz by Hutchy saying Jade wants him to go on and Cuz showing his leadership qualities at half-time.
You can email Footy Classified while the show is on at footyclassified.com.au and they'll read some of them out on the show tonight.
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Thanks OE, great report again.. :thumbsup
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* They then showed Jade's press conference. Caro said Jade has changed his tune since he first started when he said he was just warming the seat for the new guy. Thomas said he likes the way Rawlings has gone about things but he lacks presence. Caro added that Jade could even be a chance now for the North job.
SO Thomas reckon Jade lacks presence, I reckon Grant lacks personality :o :rollin
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just because jade is not a huge name in footy does not mean he lacks presence, sure he is a nice guy but the players, from cuz, to tambling, to deledio, to brown, mcmahon, jack, the whole bloody team are responding to him, that suggests he has real presence
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just because jade is not a huge name in footy does not mean he lacks presence, sure he is a nice guy but the players, from cuz, to tambling, to deledio, to brown, mcmahon, jack, the whole bloody team are responding to him, that suggests he has real presence
TT....why have you changed your name to TT2?????
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just because jade is not a huge name in footy does not mean he lacks presence, sure he is a nice guy but the players, from cuz, to tambling, to deledio, to brown, mcmahon, jack, the whole bloody team are responding to him, that suggests he has real presence
TT....why have you changed your name to TT2?????
What's a concern is that the sequel is never as good as the original, and in this case the original wasn't too flash to begin with
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just because jade is not a huge name in footy does not mean he lacks presence, sure he is a nice guy but the players, from cuz, to tambling, to deledio, to brown, mcmahon, jack, the whole bloody team are responding to him, that suggests he has real presence
TT....why have you changed your name to TT2?????
What's a concern is that the sequel is never as good as the original, and in this case the original wasn't too flash to begin with
:thatsgold
LMFAO
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i thought that remark by thomas was a pretty simpleminded one really...in any interviews Ive heard Rawlo strikes me as someone quite asute with a firm grip on the game....Now lets line up the candidates shall we ...Hows the presence of Hinkley, Cameron, Scott (yep the a-hole that played golf rather GF parade) Hardwick compare ...oh my, yep they overwhelm me with their presence ::)
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Grant Thomas is vitriolic in his abuse towards Richmond, but for some reason I still like him.
Actually I thought a couple of weeks ago Brayshaw practically asked him on air to submit his resume for the North job.
On a side note, I thought their interview of Adam Simpson was appalling, why put a newly retired 300 gamer in the 'hotseat', there is nothing controversial about the guy, could've reflected on his career a bit more instead of putting him through a job interview on TV, it was condescending to Adam Simpson, and boring television to boot.
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Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Cornflakes coming on in a few minutes. Maybe a RFC coaching update (?).
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Report please OE.... :thumbsup, thanks mate. They don't show it till 12.30am over here. :banghead
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BAD CALL. dont waste your time watching it
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Nothing much tonight about Richmond. No coaching news.
* Caro said Richmond were appalling especially as Melbourne weren't going all out to win. Richmond were disgraceful.
* Hutchy said Melbourne recruiters rate Scully as high as Judd. [ed. Not hard to guess who is going No.1 in the draft this year].
* Caro said Richmond felt they were playing a side that wasn't going full tilt.
* About the AFL moving round 22 games - Caro said the Eagles are against moving our Friday nighter as everything has already been planned. Richmond said the AFL would have to compensate our supporters for airfares, etc.
* Caro reckons there'll be a mass exodus of Freo players to Victoria. A number want out. Sandilands and Peake mentioned specifically.
* They showed Kingy shepherding Jake Spencer and then standing over him pretending to have another go at the Dees ruckman lol. Hutchy said Jake and him have worked things out and everything is fine now after Kingy threatened to knock his block off lol.
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Thanks OE, appreciate it.
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* About the AFL moving round 22 games - Caro said the Eagles are against moving our Friday nighter as everything has already been planned. Richmond said the AFL would have to compensate our supporters for airfares, etc.
Yes I sent a rather curt email off to the AFL yesterday about this very issue asking if they move the game would they compensate me for having to change my flight?
As my return flight is business class which I used frequent flyer points for I am not sure where I stand with trying to get that one changed... will not be happy if it gets moved
Also would expect the RFC to demand a guaranteed FTA Friday night game early in 2010 to compensate the CLub as well.
Actually will finish by saying I was disappointed when Caro said WCE told the AFL you can't move it and then mentioned the RFC said "well if you have to move it, move it".
For goodness sake Richmond, prime time TV, natinal exposure for sponsors, live feed into Melb for fans and you say "well if you have to" - PATHETIC
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For once Caro & Me agree on Something ;D Richmond were disgraceful ;D funny how she used that word disgraceful :rollin :lol
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* About the AFL moving round 22 games - Caro said the Eagles are against moving our Friday nighter as everything has already been planned. Richmond said the AFL would have to compensate our supporters for airfares, etc.
Yes I sent a rather curt email off to the AFL yesterday about this very issue asking if they move the game would they compensate me for having to change my flight?
As my return flight is business class which I used frequent flyer points for I am not sure where I stand with trying to get that one changed... will not be happy if it gets moved
Also would expect the RFC to demand a guaranteed FTA Friday night game early in 2010 to compensate the CLub as well.
Actually will finish by saying I was disappointed when Caro said WCE told the AFL you can't move it and then mentioned the RFC said "well if you have to move it, move it".
For goodness sake Richmond, prime time TV, natinal exposure for sponsors, live feed into Melb for fans and you say "well if you have to" - PATHETIC
l'm sure your used to Richmond making bad decisions WP ;D :lol :banghead
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Richmond should get a decent mention tonight with Benny Gale's appointment today as CEO.
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Summary - 10/8/09
Caro mentioned in the coaching race there's 4 left - Richardson, Hardwick, Rawlings and Hinkley. Second round interviews began tonight.
Laidley still hovering around.
Brad Scott didn't make it past the first round despite reports otherwise.
Fletcher and Sumich didn't make it past the first round either.
Thomas said we need someone uncompromising, a ripsnorter, some who can take the club by the scruff of the neck. Culture can change in 7 minutes if everyone is willing to change. Caro said Hardwick is impressive to her and he was a uncompromising player.
Thomas also said Rawlings could have been more assertive in the first few weeks of his caretakership. In some cases he's done well but he could have set the scene much harder early on. Felt his media conference speech passed the blame purely onto the playing group. A club is seen through it's leadership.
On Benny Gale - he supports Richo continuing on next year. Caro said that's interesting because Gale will be sitting in on the final round of interviews that determines the coach.
Lyon praised Kingy. He said we know King has deficiencies and the new coach will determine if he has future but he plays with his heart and gives his all every time he goes out to play. Hutchy said King has a contract so will be there next year.
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Well done OE thanks again...... allways appreciated. Go Hardwick!!
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Caro mentioned in the coaching race there's 4 left - Richardson, Hardwick, Rawlings and Hinkley. Second round interviews began tonight.
No real surprise it's down to those 4. Given Caro also said they didn't think Scott or Cameron were quite ready yet then Jade's young age may go against him.
Whatever happens they'll have want Richo in 2010 if Gale has already given the big fella the tick of approval to play on.
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I hope Thomas is right when he says club culture can change in 7 minutes if you want it to. Ours changed pretty quickly in the aftermath of the '82 grand final (although maybe something rotten had been festering away for a while going into that heartbreaking day.) But it's seemed like an impossible task for a wide range of administrators and coaches to change it back again over the last 27 years.
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I hope Thomas is right when he says club culture can change in 7 minutes if you want it to. Ours changed pretty quickly in the aftermath of the '82 grand final (although maybe something rotten had been festering away for a while going into that heartbreaking day.) But it's seemed like an impossible task for a wide range of administrators and coaches to change it back again over the last 27 years.
I can tell you exactly when the cracks started to appear - 1975 when we traded Brian Roberts, Graham Teasdale and Francis Jackson to South Melbourne for John Pitura. The playing group never recovered it's team spirit from that moment on and played on pure ability alone. When the ability ran out, so did our reign of success.
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I can tell you exactly when the cracks started to appear - 1975 when we traded Brian Roberts, Graham Teasdale and Francis Jackson to South Melbourne for John Pitura. The playing group never recovered it's team spirit from that moment on and played on pure ability alone. When the ability ran out, so did our reign of success.
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I remember it well. We sure stuffed up on that decision. The following year we sacked Tommy Hafey. I remember going down to the rooms for autographs after a bad loss against Collingwood (I think) late in the season in '76. I was 15. Tommy was sitting on his own in a corner away from the players with his head down, and he cut a really forlorn figure. I kind of knew then that something was up.The next year he was at Collingwood.
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Caro mentioned in the coaching race there's 4 left - Richardson, Hardwick, Rawlings and Hinkley. Second round interviews began tonight.
No real surprise it's down to those 4. Given Caro also said they didn't think Scott or Cameron were quite ready yet then Jade's young age may go against him.
Whatever happens they'll have want Richo in 2010 if Gale has already given the big fella the tick of approval to play on.
i too drew that conclusion that Jades tender age may nail him in the end...would love to think we can retain him in some capacity, perhaps director of coaching but me thinks he'll move on
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Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Cornflakes on now.
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Summary - 17/8/09
Caro said, like North with Scott, Richmond are after a development coach although who would want to coach that side after another pathetic effort on the weekend yet again.
Hutchy said Hardwick has the Richmond job as his go but the Port assistant role as fallback. Thomas wondered why Hardwick has now missed out on 3 jobs - Melbourne, Essendon and North. Lyon said when Hardwick went for the Demon job he was only a couple of years out of playing. He didn't know on the others.
Caro said Richmond talked to Hinkley tonight (Monday) which will finish our interview process.
Caro said the melee was bad for Richmond because they showed far more go in the fracas than at any other point in the actual game. The false bravado was embarrassing. She said Richmond weren't happy with Hislop when after bumping Heath Shaw he went back and and bumped Shaw while Shaw was crouched on the ground.
Apparently it'll be the first time since 1984 that Coll, Carl and Ess have all made the finals together if they do. When Lyon said to Caro if we can get the Tigers up there also we'll have the famous Big 4 back in there, Caro replied we'll be waiting a long time for that.
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Thanks OE good stuff mate. Carro sound like she has ben down on us for a while now, not too many god words lately. ???
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Caro thrives when our footy club is down. She has so much to say and such helpful advice. She absolutely loves it.
No-one at the Richmond footy club would take Caros calls if we were winning games. And she knows it.
Hislop was sniped in the 2Q mellee and got the bloke back. Caro wouldnt have a clue because she doesnt watch footy games just writes up what what people tell her.
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Caro said Richmond talked to Hinkley tonight (Monday) which will finish our interview process.
BAD CALL Caro - Hinkley is later in the week :rollin
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I wonder what Caro and Hutchy will guess wrong tonight :D
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I wonder what Caro and Hutchy will guess wrong tonight :D
All the Jurno's are up poo creek at the moment, none of them can figure out who we are going to choose........ love it... :thumbsup. Please do keep us informed of their guessing games OE!!
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footy classified starts in ten minutes but Hutchy has just said on the break before it starts that we have made a decision.
That may be true but im guessing Hutchy still doesnt have a clue.
I guess it means decision will be announced tomorrow.
big day for our club i reckon.
please no more softies please
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footy classified starts in ten minutes but Hutchy has just said on the break before it starts that we have made a decision.
That may be true but im guessing Hutchy still doesnt have a clue.
I guess it means decision will be announced tomorrow.
big day for our club i reckon.
please no more softies please
Hutchy has a 50/50 chance of getting it right and he will think he is breaking the story if he jags the right one..... he is a knob head. IMO it's Hardwick all the way but what happens behind the scene we will never know.
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Decision apparently made.
We all find out on Wednesday!
i love that caro and hutchy have no idea.
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footy classified starts in ten minutes but Hutchy has just said on the break before it starts that we have made a decision.
That may be true but im guessing Hutchy still doesnt have a clue.
I guess it means decision will be announced tomorrow.
big day for our club i reckon.
please no more softies please
Hutchy has a 50/50 chance of getting it right and he will think he is breaking the story if he jags the right one..... he is a knob head. IMO it's Hardwick all the way but what happens behind the scene we will never know.
comedy capers on classified tonight.
caro puts her hand on her heart and says "i always believed we would always choose Hardwick" she is a fool.
weeks ago she said Jade Rawlings is the man.
they are dead set fools on this show.
They just sit there and guess all night. This show is getting tiresome.
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Summary - 24/8/09
Thomas said Richmond has some "spunk" about it whereas North doesn't. By spunk he means untapped potential that has been down a long time. Lyon under his breath said very untapped. Thomas asked Lyon who he would rather coach and Lyon didn't hesistate saying North.
Hutchy said a decision has been made but he can't say who it is as the candidates haven't been told (ie. he doesn't know :rollin). Both candidates were interviewed yesterday and an announcement will be made on Wednesday. Caro admitted she doesn't know.
Hutchy had a go at North's coaching process and said Hardwick was aggrieved it. Hardwick had a full presentation prepared for North but was told by North to wait for a second interview. North then backed out of it. Caro believes North didn't think Hardwick was 100% gun-ho about North and couldn't afford another knockback so they chose Scott. If North were keen on Hardwick then the Prez would've met him. Hutchy said Hardwick would've taken the North job. Lyon said the North's process was fine and they got a good coach.
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Decision apparently made.
We all find out on Wednesday!
i love that caro and hutchy have no idea.
As I have posted in another topic, Hinkley was told he wasnt the preferred candidiate, and has informed Geelong accordingly
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Well if it's all over then they should just announce it and cut out the mucking around. Are you happy with Hardwick Jackstar because I can't be bothered fighting with you over the next 3 years about the coach if you aren't... :lol
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Well if it's all over then they should just announce it and cut out the mucking around. Are you happy with Hardwick Jackstar because I can't be bothered fighting with you over the next 3 years about the coach if you aren't... :lol
He would have to be better than Wallace, so yes
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Well if it's all over then they should just announce it and cut out the mucking around. Are you happy with Hardwick Jackstar because I can't be bothered fighting with you over the next 3 years about the coach if you aren't... :lol
He would have to be better than Wallace, so yes
Very good... :thumbsup
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Rawlings is better than Wallace and you haven't shut up about him. ::)
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so wednesday's the day!
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after hearing Carey tonight i propose we go after him as a forward part time coaching role
he knows the game and would have lots of information to give to our forwards.
Jack and that other guy Cleve something would do wonders knowing what it takes to become an elite forward in the game.
There will be no problems with him going after any of our players mrs cause most of them have boyfriends the way they play these days.
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Rawlings is better than Wallace and you haven't shut up about him. ::)
Who said Rawlings is better than Wallace ??? Rawlings cant even get the kick ins right, and we have been VERY UNDISIPLINE under Rawlings
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after hearing Carey tonight i propose we go after him as a forward part time coaching role
he knows the game and would have lots of information to give to our forwards.
Jack and that other guy Cleve something would do wonders knowing what it takes to become an elite forward in the game.
There will be no problems with him going after any of our players mrs cause most of them have boyfriends the way they play these days.
Don't worry about Cleve he won't be there next year.
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Jordie copped the closing cook from Lyon for Franklin barging through him twice lol.
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Jordie copped the closing cook from Lyon for Franklin barging through him twice lol.
BIG BIG BIG clean out coming at the end of this year.
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Jordie copped the closing cook from Lyon for Franklin barging through him twice lol.
BIG BIG BIG clean out coming at the end of this year.
Lets hope so ... It will be a good start to changing the failure syndrome that has infested the place.
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Any less than 8 out the door IMO will not be good enough.
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after hearing Carey tonight i propose we go after him as a forward part time coaching role
he knows the game and would have lots of information to give to our forwards.
Jack and that other guy Cleve something would do wonders knowing what it takes to become an elite forward in the game.
There will be no problems with him going after any of our players mrs cause most of them have boyfriends the way they play these days.
Carey moving back to Melbourne to be closer to his daughter. So it has to be a Victorian club if he wants to get into specialised coaching.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/im-ready-to-coach-says-carey/2009/08/24/1251001861820.html
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caro puts her hand on her heart and says "i always believed we would always choose Hardwick" she is a fool.
weeks ago she said Jade Rawlings is the man.
they are dead set fools on this show.
They just sit there and guess all night. This show is getting tiresome.
Caro never had Jade as "the man" - she has alsways been adamant that he didn't have a chance
If the show is so "tiresome" don't watch it ;D
after hearing Carey tonight i propose we go after him as a forward part time coaching role
he knows the game and would have lots of information to give to our forwards.
I actuallt agree with you about this daniel. Carey has always spoken well and has a great knowledge of footy. Would be a very handy as a specialist forward coach. Also reckon he may end up commentating somewhere
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caro puts her hand on her heart and says "i always believed we would always choose Hardwick" she is a fool.
weeks ago she said Jade Rawlings is the man.
they are dead set fools on this show.
They just sit there and guess all night. This show is getting tiresome.
Caro never had Jade as "the man" - she has alsways been adamant that he didn't have a chance
If the show is so "tiresome" don't watch it ;D
after hearing Carey tonight i propose we go after him as a forward part time coaching role
he knows the game and would have lots of information to give to our forwards.
I actuallt agree with you about this daniel. Carey has always spoken well and has a great knowledge of footy. Would be a very handy as a specialist forward coach. Also reckon he may end up commentating somewhere
regarding Caro i suggest you watch the tapes a few back after those memorable wins against the Eagles, Demons and Bombers. she said it FACT!!
She said jade had moved up the pecking order and was a real chance for the job
why does it suprise you anyway?
they have been changing there mind for the last 3 months.
first it was Sheeds, then Campbell's then it was Knighter's then it was Jade's, then it was Hinkley's now its Hardwick.
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Who said Rawlings is better than Wallace ??? Rawlings cant even get the kick ins right, and we have been VERY UNDISIPLINE under Rawlings
Undisciplined ??? That comment right there proves to me that you refuse to see the forrest from the trees and you haven't a clue what's been going on down there
regarding Caro i suggest you watch the tapes a few back after those memorable wins against the Eagles, Demons and Bombers. she said it FACT!!
She said jade had moved up the pecking order and was a real chance for the job
I am not disputing that she said he went up the pecking order but she never said he had the job and she has always said that he was unlikely to get it. Rawlings was never her preferred choice FACT ;D
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Here is Hutchy talking about us last night:
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=CAEEDDD7-5D55-40C5-9C4B-F8EC8BB208FD (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=CAEEDDD7-5D55-40C5-9C4B-F8EC8BB208FD)
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Not much about Richmond tonight and nothing really new.
Lade to be an assistant coach most likely with Hardwick at Richmond according to Hutchy.
Scott Lucas may end up an assistant as well (Hutchy didn't say where).
Good Call/Bad Call: Should Troy Simmonds be part of a massive cull at Richmond?
Lyon said good call. Simmonds been around long enough and time is up. The ruck is one area you can be liberal with. Invest in Vickery.
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Not much about Richmond tonight and nothing really new.
Lade to be an assistant coach most likely with Hardwick at Richmond according to Hutchy.
Scott Lucas may end up an assistant as well (Hutchy didn't say where).
Good Call/Bad Call: Should Troy Simmonds be part of a massive cull at Richmond?
Lyon said good call. Simmonds been around long enough and time is up. The ruck is one area you can be liberal with. Invest in Vickery.
Cheers OE, what credentials or smarts does Lucas have other than being and ex player??
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Not much about Richmond tonight and nothing really new.
Lade to be an assistant coach most likely with Hardwick at Richmond according to Hutchy.
Scott Lucas may end up an assistant as well (Hutchy didn't say where).
Good Call/Bad Call: Should Troy Simmonds be part of a massive cull at Richmond?
Lyon said good call. Simmonds been around long enough and time is up. The ruck is one area you can be liberal with. Invest in Vickery.
Cheers OE, what credentials or smarts does Lucas have other than being and ex player??
Good Call :thumbsup
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Wanna be a Coach
come down to Tigerland the breeding ground for coaches ;D
we will know after 5 years if you can coach ;D :banghead
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Wanna be a Coach
come down to Tigerland the breeding ground for coaches ;D
we will know after 5 years if you can coach ;D :banghead
Correct.
Go back to Wallaces press conference when he was appointed 5 years ago, heaps of promises ::) ::)
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Lade to be an assistant coach most likely with Hardwick at Richmond according to Hutchy.
:thumbsup - To replace Monky hopefully.
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Wanna be a Coach
come down to Tigerland the breeding ground for coaches ;D
we will know after 5 years if you can coach ;D :banghead
Correct.
Go back to Wallaces press conference when he was appointed 5 years ago, heaps of promises ::) ::)
King, Mcrae, Rawlings, Royal.
Crocker ;D man l cringed when that bloke speaks :rollin
Hope Hardwick has some brain & brings in Paul Hudson.
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Lade to be an assistant coach most likely with Hardwick at Richmond according to Hutchy.
:thumbsup - To replace Monky hopefully.
Monky is on his way back to the building trade ;D
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Huey, Duey, Luey and Caro coming on shortly. Maybe some assistant coaching news?
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Huey, Duey, Luey and Caro coming on shortly. Maybe some assistant coaching news?
Please keep us up to date OE, cheers mate!!
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Saint Judd to Lyon wasn't it tonight :chuck
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The only thing about Richmond tonight was a Good Call/Bad Call on whether Rawlings (and Crocker at North) should move on to another club. Lyon said good call. If you're an incumbent you should move out and away when a new coach comes in. Crocker apparently is staying at North though according to Hutchy. No news oon Jade.
On Brian Lake, Caro said he'll end up at Melbourne via the PSD if he decides to leave for more money as the Doggies have said previously they won't trade him.
Top 4 MVP:
1. Ablett (even though Geelong players gave more votes to Selwood)
2. Swan
3. Judd
4. Riewoldt (Nick version)
Joel Selwood - most courageous
Jonathan Brown - best captain
Daniel Rich - best first year player
In news just to hand, Joe Bordonaro won his appeal tonight against a 5 year ban for allegedly frauding B&F votes with liquid paper. So he's free to play and to win another B&F.
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Thanks OE, gee it's getting a bit boring isn't it, this footy caper needs to go all year ... :thumbsup. Let's hope Hardwick makes a few decisions soon and gets us back into the news, never mind the finals. :whistle
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I couldn't believe (well actually I guess I could) Lyon's stance on the Judd issue. Saying that because Judd didn't know what he was doing meant it could never have been dangerous. Sorry Gaddy, but if someone doesn't know what they are doing then there's likely more chance of it getting out of control, that was the entire point brought up by the martial arts expert. A small amount of knowledge can be very dangerous, this applies to many things in life, people who think they know what they are doing but in reality have no idea.
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A small amount of knowledge can be very dangerous, this applies to many things in life, people who think they know what they are doing but in reality have no idea.
Luckily, there is none of that on this forum Infamy! ;D
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And while we are discussing Judd - what a liar! Pressure points - yeah right. Second time he has been caught out with fingers on the face of an opponent. He is nothing more than a hypocrite - a moral apologist who was holier than thou when it came to the West Coast drug culture but has no issue in lying his face off when he gets caught out with a low mongrel act (I rate eye-gouging at the same level as spitting). A liar who went to the cheating scum - a good mix in my opinion - and as for Judd and his morals - he has gone way way down in my estimation of him as a person.
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Huey, Duey, Luey and Caro coming on shortly. Maybe some assistant coaching news?
Hi Cyclops! I don't mean to be pedantic, but as someone who used to read Donald Duck comics as a kid,the feathered one's nephews' names were spelt;Huey, Dewey and Louie. ; ;D
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Hi Cyclops! I don't mean to be pedantic, but as someone who used to read Donald Duck comics as a kid,the feathered one's nephews' names were spelt;Huey, Dewey and Louie. ; ;D
Sorry about that RR. Huey, Dewey and Louie and Caro on now ;)
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Hi Cyclops! I don't mean to be pedantic, but as someone who used to read Donald Duck comics as a kid,the feathered one's nephews' names were spelt;Huey, Dewey and Louie. ; ;D
Sorry about that RR. Huey, Dewey and Louie and Caro on now ;)
Any Richmond news tonight?
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Nothing on Richmond as yet.
Hutchy said Melbourne, Hawthorn and Essendon are chasing Shaun Burgoyne. Caro thinks Collingwood is interested too.
Hutchy thinks Daniel Pearce may follow suit too. Caro disagreed saying she believes Pearce will stay at Port.
North want pick 9 from Hawthorn for Gibson but Hutchy believes the deal will be pick 25. Thomas laughed saying Gibson is a fine player but surely not worth pick 25.
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Good Call/Bad Call:
Q. Richmond was lucky to re-sign Brett Deledio?
Caro said good call. He's going to win the B&F on Wednesday night in her opinion. Richmond obviously wanted to re-sign him badly because of that. He's probably getting paid a little bit over the odds but they all agreed the criticism he cops is unwarranted. About the money his getting Lyon said someone has to get at Richmond don't they. Lids is apparently getting paid more than Steve Johnson at Geelong.
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Good Call/Bad Call:
Q. Richmond was lucky to re-sign Brett Deledio?
Caro said good call. He's going to win the B&F on Wednesday night in her opinion. Richmond obviously wanted to re-sign him badly because of that. He's probably getting paid a little bit over the odds but they all agreed the criticism he cops is unwarranted. About the money his getting Lyon said someone has to get at Richmond don't they.
Way to go making positive RFC news into a negative question ???.
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Of course Lids is getting more than Steve Johnson, look at how many stars Geelong have to fit under the salary cap, Richmond have Lids and that's about it for now.
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The 4 amigoes are on tonight due to the Brownlow tomorrow night.
Hutchy says there's plenty of trade news so maybe the Tigers will get a mention.
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The 4 amigos are on tonight due to the Brownlow tomorrow night.
Hutchy says there's plenty of trade news so maybe the Tigers will get a mention.
I will wait for the report please OE... :bow
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Brownlow
Caro thinks Cuz will get 15 Brownlow votes. He's her "roughie". The others laughed. Lyon said he'll do the show nude next year if Cuz won it.
Trade talk
Burgoyne - will announce tommorrow his preferred club. Hawthorn favourite. Essendon also in the mix. Melbourne just a fall-back option in the PSD.
Lovett - Freo best placed.
Everitt - heavily wooed by a number of Victorian clubs. Hutchy reckons the competition for Everitt is so strong a top 10 pick may be offered. Carlton favourite.
Gibson - will reconfirm he wants to go to Hawthorn when he returns from OS tomorrow.
Spangher - no idea according to Caro lol.
Hutchy reckons Maguire and Tarrant will change clubs as well.
Good Call/Bad Call
Hutchy asked "Richo is wrong to go on one more season?" Lyon said bad call. Richo should play on.
Draft talk
Melbourne are believed to be taking two midfielders with their first two picks according to Hutchy and Lyon. Hutchy says it's a bad call by the Dees and they should take Butcher as they need a KPP.
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Well nothing on the Tigers then as far as trades go, thanks for the report OE!!
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Melbourne are believed to be taking two midfielders with their first two picks according to Hutchy and Lyon. Hutchy says it's a bad call by the Dees and they should take Butcher as they need a KPP.
That's the most important thing out of the show from Richmond's perspective. We now have to decide whether the best available KPP is better than the 3rd best midfielder on offer. Probably deserves it own thread.
As for trade talk it's slightly concerning there's no mention of interest in Tucky although we don't know what is going on behind the scenes and it's not officially trade week yet. Having the likes of Burgoyne on the trade table hurts Tucky's trade value big time.
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Caro, Hutchy, Lyon and Thomas on now. If they stick to form we'll probably get a bagging.
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gee i really cant stand this Caro scrag.
Bringing up Benny Gale interview last week again. Defending Terry and his game plans.
She sounds as if she really hates the club and you know what they should not let her sorry ar-se within 200 metres of the front gate.
stuff her
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Caro said Richmond and Melbourne are crumbling at the moment and there's no hope for supporters. Both clubs would have just as much right to go to the AFL to ask for a priority pick because they are both stuffed as Geelong does seeking compensation for Ablett.
Caro said there's talk Simmo may play on for another year. Ruck stocks are very thin. Richmond looked half the size out there compared to Carlton. No ruck in the forward line many times during the night with Jack Riewoldt having to go up in the place of a real ruckman against Kreuzer and Warnock.
Replayed Browny on the Sunday Footy Show saying that we all lost our way including Wallace in the last couple of years (ie. no gameplan). Terry was a good coach before then.
Caro said the honeymoon period will only last a couple of weeks if the Club blames the past (ie. Wallace). She said she should have gone harder at Benny Gale about him blaming a past staff member. Caro said that was untrue.
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Simmo was lucky to get the gig this year. Surely this is his last year ???.
Caro said the honeymoon period will only last a couple of weeks if the Club blames the past (ie. Wallace).
Hey Caro how about a source ::)
The Club was just talking about the future Caro with the 3-0-75 plan until your gutter article about Cuz and what some 'mystery' source :whistle claimed happened last year and then you' Lyon and co. kept going on and on about Cuz with Benny Gale :sleep. Laughable comment Caro ::).
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God when is it going to end, yet again we all know where we are at and where we are going and... etc... etc....
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gee i really cant stand this Caro scrag.
Bringing up Benny Gale interview last week again. Defending Terry and his game plans.
She sounds as if she really hates the club and you know what they should not let her sorry ar-se within 200 metres of the front gate.
eff her
Yep she is definately a trouble maker. What is important is that the club remains and stays focused on the plan and what it has to do, from president to footballer. No fear she will try to derail us at the slightest of opportunities as would just about any other journalist. One of the major keys to our success as a club let alone the football department is "UNITY". Unity alone as a club will itself go along way in circumventing any media attack. Unity is in fact a prerequisite to stability and success, neither of these things are possible without it.
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Simmo was lucky to get the gig this year. Surely this is his last year ???.
Caro said the honeymoon period will only last a couple of weeks if the Club blames the past (ie. Wallace).
Hey Caro how about a source ::)
The Club was just talking about the future Caro with the 3-0-75 plan until your gutter article about Cuz and what some 'mystery' source :whistle claimed happened last year and then you' Lyon and co. kept going on and on about Cuz with Benny Gale :sleep. Laughable comment Caro ::).
exactly MT, funny how she bangs on abt us always blaming the past, got nothing to do with the leading questions and sticking to the cuz issue like flies on poo you hag!
i turned it off early tonight as well as on the couch, just had enough of footy coverage lately. Not sure its bc im tired or what but watching both programs tonight, for the first time i felt completely put off over the gross over saturation of every non issue in footy. The media create the agendas in footy, they literally pull the strings in this industry and i've had enough, losing interest truth be told. They are worse than lawyers and real estate agents. Getting more and more akin to the british tabloids every year
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Simmo was lucky to get the gig this year. Surely this is his last year ???.
Caro said the honeymoon period will only last a couple of weeks if the Club blames the past (ie. Wallace).
Hey Caro how about a source ::)
The Club was just talking about the future Caro with the 3-0-75 plan until your gutter article about Cuz and what some 'mystery' source :whistle claimed happened last year and then you' Lyon and co. kept going on and on about Cuz with Benny Gale :sleep. Laughable comment Caro ::).
exactly MT, funny how she bangs on abt us always blaming the past, got nothing to do with the leading questions and sticking to the cuz issue like flies on poo you hag!
i turned it off early tonight as well as on the couch, just had enough of footy coverage lately. Not sure its bc im tired or what but watching both programs tonight, for the first time i felt completely put off over the gross over saturation of every non issue in footy. The media create the agendas in footy, they literally pull the strings in this industry and i've had enough, losing interest truth be told. They are worse than lawyers and real estate agents. Getting more and more akin to the british tabloids every year
:clapping :clapping :clapping. Best post I think you have ever written, I totally agree. I just can't get into the footy that much anymore either the way it's going in the media and all over.
Years ago I would not leave the house if the Tigers were on, even other games for that matter. Now, I would rather go for a ride on my Motorbike, go for a drive with the wife and kids or go and play Golf.
I am sick to death of hearing about Ben Cousins, Gary Ablett, free agency, GC17 and how bad a team we apparently are and will be for the next 100 years. I am also sick of watching the rules continually change every year and how different unpires interperate them.
I love the Tiges and always will but the media and AFL are killing the game for me.
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Good call/bad call: Should Richmond get the right to host the season opener?
Caro said yes. That's a kick a club when it's down question. 72,000 turned up which was clearly the best crowd of the round. We'd just like Richmond to be more competitive in future. They should keep it for now but if there's a bad loss next year then they may be in trouble.
Lyon then quipped he's not too sure we'll be there next year.
Hutchy said North's first half against Port ( 4.2-26 to 10.10-70 ) wasn't as bad as Richmond and Melbourne on the weekend because they came back in the second half.
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Hutchy said North's first half against Port ( 4.2-26 to 10.10-70 ) wasn't as bad as Richmond and Melbourne on the weekend because they came back in the second half.
And that is why he is touted as the balding imbecile,ars licking dog he is.
lmao.What a Fool.
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Being over 7 goals down is better than 3 according to Hutchy :stupid.
WP and I mentioned at the game that the media will only concentrate on the last quarter and the margin blowing out. If we had kept the margin to 4-5 goals as it was at 3/4 time then it would have made it hard for the journos to go to town on us as they are and comparing our performance to Melbourne who were 80 points down and totally non-competitive for 3 quarters until the Hawks took the pedal off in the last. The media just see both sides lost by 56 points and go both performances were the same without any context ::).
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i turned it off early tonight
So did I.
Ratings & PAPer sales is the only thing feeding The journalist from Woman's Day's career.
I'm doing my bit by boycotting Caro. Figure that way I may have a chance of seeing her disappear.
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What upset me the most was these idiots talking about the Gold Coast Bulletin using Ablett to promote GC17. Both on this show and on One Week at a Time they all dismissed it and said it was OK.
Shows their stupidity when they don't understand the basics of an industry they work in or one they report on. The AFL and Clubs pay all players a fee to license the use of their name and image for promotional purposes. This is copyrighted intellectual property - a long recognised right in any media setting. The Bulletin have stolen the rights (of Ablett, his management, the AFL, it's sponsers, Geelong FC and it's sponsors) and used it for their own purposes. All parties have a legal right, and I think an obligation, to sue.
The thing that amazes me is that Quartermain, Walls, Darcy, Caro, Lyons and Hutchy have all now implied that it is OK to use their name and image for any similar purpose. I wonder whether that is the same viewpoint of the publishers and broadcasters for whom they work. Seems at odds with News corp charging for internet content.
Would like to ring Quartermain or Caro and say "I'm starting a new media company and I've decided to use your photo and name on publicity. You don't mind do you? Oh that's right I don't even have to ask."
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Doesn't the AFL technically own the rights to everything rather than the clubs? The guernseys, club names, club logos and other trademarks I was lead to believe were the property of the AFL thanks to all VFL clubs at the time handing all power to the commission in the mid-80s. If the AFL doesn't mind the publicity for the new Gold Coast club (Demetriou would love it) would Geelong have a leg to stand on legally? In the end it's a dodgy photoshop job and it's Ablett who can only end the speculation. He wouldn't want to sue his future employer that's for sure if he's going.
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Being over 7 goals down is better than 3 according to Hutchy :stupid.
WP and I mentioned at the game that the media will only concentrate on the last quarter and the margin blowing out. If we had kept the margin to 4-5 goals as it was at 3/4 time then it would have made it hard for the journos to go to town on us as they are and comparing our performance to Melbourne who were 80 points down and totally non-competitive for 3 quarters until the Hawks took the pedal off in the last. The media just see both sides lost by 56 points and go both performances were the same without any context ::).
Hey hold on a minute
We were terrible the other night, and were absolutely terrible in our last practice match, Of course the journos are going to have a whack a us.
Caro was right with one thing, both Richmond and Melbourne are in a mess
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Being over 7 goals down is better than 3 according to Hutchy :stupid.
WP and I mentioned at the game that the media will only concentrate on the last quarter and the margin blowing out. If we had kept the margin to 4-5 goals as it was at 3/4 time then it would have made it hard for the journos to go to town on us as they are and comparing our performance to Melbourne who were 80 points down and totally non-competitive for 3 quarters until the Hawks took the pedal off in the last. The media just see both sides lost by 56 points and go both performances were the same without any context ::).
Yes we did say that and I stand by it ;D
Absolutely no doubt in my mind that the media and some of our more feral fans would be lot calmer if we had lost by say 4-6 goals than the 9 that we did.
Facts are whether people want to admit it or not we were actually in the game until midway through the 3rd quarter. Should we have been? Probably not but reality is we were and that is a positive in my book
Hey hold on a minute
We were terrible the other night, and were absolutely terrible in our last practice match, Of course the journos are going to have a whack a us.
Caro was right with one thing, both Richmond and Melbourne are in a mess
Yes we were terrible to get beaten by 56 points but I still think if you look at the game up until halftime - most people would have been OK with how things were going... the final quarter was pathetic but up until then things were where I expected
Bottom line is the vast majority on here us expect us to finish bottom 4 so why people are thinking the world is about to end beggars belief to be honest
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I prefer to wait till r22 and see the benefit of a Griffiths and Astbury in the team in the key forward posts before passing judgement. If these boys come in and play well then that will augur well for the future. Also want to see Webberly play soon.
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Being over 7 goals down is better than 3 according to Hutchy :stupid.
WP and I mentioned at the game that the media will only concentrate on the last quarter and the margin blowing out. If we had kept the margin to 4-5 goals as it was at 3/4 time then it would have made it hard for the journos to go to town on us as they are and comparing our performance to Melbourne who were 80 points down and totally non-competitive for 3 quarters until the Hawks took the pedal off in the last. The media just see both sides lost by 56 points and go both performances were the same without any context ::).
Yes we did say that and I stand by it ;D
Absolutely no doubt in my mind that the media and some of our more feral fans would be lot calmer if we had lost by say 4-6 goals than the 9 that we did.
Facts are whether people want to admit it or not we were actually in the game until midway through the 3rd quarter. Should we have been? Probably not but reality is we were and that is a positive in my book
Hey hold on a minute
We were terrible the other night, and were absolutely terrible in our last practice match, Of course the journos are going to have a whack a us.
Caro was right with one thing, both Richmond and Melbourne are in a mess
Yes we were terrible to get beaten by 56 points but I still think if you look at the game up until halftime - most people would have been OK with how things were going... the final quarter was pathetic but up until then things were where I expected
Bottom line is the vast majority on here us expect us to finish bottom 4 so why people are thinking the world is about to end beggars belief to be honest
Yep, I agree with you and MT on this one WP. When I said dismissively that my highlight for the match was that it was over, I was being flippant and glib because I was so disappointed at losing yet again to the Carltank scum.
But the fact is that the game was very different to last year's humiliation.
That game was over before 1/4 time when we refused to fight back after being jumped.
This time round we hit back in the first, second and third terms after they got the drop on us at the start of every qtr. I really admired their ticker for that. Who knows how much closer we would have gotten too, if they hadn't paid that stupid mark to Betts.
Yes, I was disgusted that they gave up in the last term, and allowed what should have been a 5-6 goal loss to blow out to nearly 10.
But it was typical of the media, with their Richmond-bashing agenda to focus in on this and completely dismiss how competitive we'd been for a large part of the game. Incidentally, I still think this game was lost at the selection table. If we'd gone in with more marking options in the fwd line (Post) and Rance down back instead of Moore, we'd have given ourselves a much greater chance.
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Rance down back is laughable :lol
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Well, he was against Hawthorn in the NAB Cup. But I haven't given up on him just yet.
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
Because as a junior he could play just fine.
He was U18 All Australian defender in 2007 and a real chance to go to the Dogs with Pick 5 in that draft but they went for a forward instead.
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
Because as a junior he could play just fine.
He was U18 All Australian defender in 2007 and a real chance to go to the Dogs with Pick 5 in that draft but they went for a forward instead.
bs
he couldnt kick then, he cant kick now and he will never adjust to the pace and standards of afl. u dont just forget how to kick and once u reach this age u cannot improve ur kicking
he cannot kick end of story
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
Because as a junior he could play just fine.
He was U18 All Australian defender in 2007 and a real chance to go to the Dogs with Pick 5 in that draft but they went for a forward instead.
bs
he couldnt kick then, he cant kick now and he will never adjust to the pace and standards of afl. u dont just forget how to kick and once u reach this age u cannot improve ur kicking
he cannot kick end of story
Totally agree !
This kid got where he did , due to his surname,
Same as Ken Hunters kids who went to Melbourne a few years ago, TOTAL fool ! Cant play. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
Because as a junior he could play just fine.
He was U18 All Australian defender in 2007 and a real chance to go to the Dogs with Pick 5 in that draft but they went for a forward instead.
bs
he couldnt kick then, he cant kick now and he will never adjust to the pace and standards of afl. u dont just forget how to kick and once u reach this age u cannot improve ur kicking
he cannot kick end of story
Rubbish, he was never a Luke Hodge with his kicking, but it was never as bad as it is now.
He was the best key defender in the draft at the time and we were in dire need of one. It was the right decision to take him.,
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rance is a major liability, he cant kick , cant mark cant handball
how the f was he recruited :banghead :banghead :banghead
Because as a junior he could play just fine.
He was U18 All Australian defender in 2007 and a real chance to go to the Dogs with Pick 5 in that draft but they went for a forward instead.
bs
he couldnt kick then, he cant kick now and he will never adjust to the pace and standards of afl. u dont just forget how to kick and once u reach this age u cannot improve ur kicking
he cannot kick end of story
Rubbish, he was never a Luke Hodge with his kicking, but it was never as bad as it is now.
He was the best key defender in the draft at the time and we were in dire need of one. It was the right decision to take him.,
wrong decision one would think if he cant get a game with the bottom team ::)
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Rance was a gun Junior footballer he was a steal at 18 for the promise he showed.
Let him develop ffs.
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Rance was a gun Junior footballer he was a steal at 18 for the promise he showed.
Let him develop ffs.
He cant kick, doesnt matter if he is 19/20 or 25 years old, he cannot kick,
Aaron Fiora was a steal at pick 4.
Polak, didnt he go for pick 6 in the draft ?? ::) ::)
Had a really good look at Rance over the past 12 months.
Cant play I am afraid, and thats why he didnt get a game round 1, get over it !
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
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Rance was a gun Junior footballer he was a steal at 18 for the promise he showed.
Let him develop ffs.
He cant kick, doesnt matter if he is 19/20 or 25 years old, he cannot kick,
Aaron Fiora was a steal at pick 4.
Polak, didnt he go for pick 6 in the draft ?? ::) ::)
Had a really good look at Rance over the past 12 months.
Cant play I am afraid, and thats why he didnt get a game round 1, get over it !
Simon Prestigiacomo can't kick
Harry Taylor is a very suspect kick
James Frawley can't kick
Brent Staker can't kick
Many decent backman can't kick in other teams yet still play pivotal roles as a defender.
You'd be surprised how much is confidence. Anyone can kick to space to a hard running player. Thats our problem our options are liimited to pin point 25m passes where 90% of players in the AFL simply can't do every time when pressure is on.
Rance would be the most promising backman in any top 4 side. Give him Gary Ablett, Lenny Hayes, Chris Judd gut running out of defence for him to bomb down the wing too and he'd looks a million times better.
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Rance was a gun Junior footballer he was a steal at 18 for the promise he showed.
Let him develop ffs.
He cant kick, doesnt matter if he is 19/20 or 25 years old, he cannot kick,
Aaron Fiora was a steal at pick 4.
Polak, didnt he go for pick 6 in the draft ?? ::) ::)
Had a really good look at Rance over the past 12 months.
Cant play I am afraid, and thats why he didnt get a game round 1, get over it !
Simon Prestigiacomo can't kick
Harry Taylor is a very suspect kick
James Frawley can't kick
Brent Staker can't kick
Many decent backman can't kick in other teams yet still play pivotal roles as a defender.
You'd be surprised how much is confidence. Anyone can kick to space to a hard running player. Thats our problem our options are liimited to pin point 25m passes where 90% of players in the AFL simply can't do every time when pressure is on.
Rance would be the most promising backman in any top 4 side. Give him Gary Ablett, Lenny Hayes, Chris Judd gut running out of defence for him to bomb down the wing too and he'd looks a million times better.
god some say my posts are fos
thats the biggest load of rubbish i have ever read
rance is poo , get over it
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
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At 18-19 years of age the boy still needs time....yes he might prove poo in the end ,but now is not the time to de list him
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
Your funny Moi. ::)
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I'll give JJ one thing.
He's got the balls to say who he is to those he bothers with.
No Moi,not a dig at u. :wallywink
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
Your funny Moi. ::)
Wish Mr Know-It-All would put his hand up for a coaching job
He clearly knows more than every coach going around ::)
Put in for the next one, Jack
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
Your funny Moi. ::)
Wish Mr Know-It-All would put his hand up for a coaching job
He clearly knows more than every coach going around ::)
Put in for the next one, Jack
Dont worry, I will be back. :thumbsup
And Rance cant play either.
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Rance would be the most promising backman in any top 4 side. Give him Gary Ablett, Lenny Hayes, Chris Judd gut running out of defence for him to bomb down the wing too and he'd looks a million times better.
His got to get a game 1st. ;D
If his so good ;D he would have been in the round one side taking the place of Edwards
What part of Jackstars post you have trouble reading
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
Your funny Moi. ::)
Wish Mr Know-It-All would put his hand up for a coaching job
He clearly knows more than every coach going around ::)
Put in for the next one, Jack
Maybe you should apply to the Tiger Den Moi
l hear they need Volenteers :lol
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JJ, what credentials do you have to be stating who can and cant play with such authority???
You seemto know me well enough by calling me JJ.
You should know my previous involvement then ;)
Best water boy in the country
How dare someone question your credentials Jack lol
Your funny Moi. ::)
Wish Mr Know-It-All would put his hand up for a coaching job
He clearly knows more than every coach going around ::)
Put in for the next one, Jack
Maybe you should apply to the Tiger Den Moi
l hear they need Volenteers :lol
Don't knock people who volunteer
Without them this club would be nothing!
Besides I'm good at servicing ;D
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Don't knock people who volunteer
Without them this club would be nothing!
Besides I'm good at servicing ;D
so l have heard :lol
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No doubt Caro, Garry, Hutchy and Cornflakes will go to town on us tonight.
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No doubt Caro, Garry, Hutchy and Cornflakes will go to town on us tonight.
Wonder what they will have to say about North who were woefully worse than us?
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We hardly got a mention apart form in "good call, bad call"
Pretty boring night on Footy Classified ;D
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We hardly got a mention apart form in "good call, bad call"
Pretty boring night on Footy Classified ;D
GOOD!
don't need a mention every week!
:)
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We hardly got a mention apart form in "good call, bad call"
Pretty boring night on Footy Classified ;D
I think we may get a slight mention tonight especially from Caro :whistle
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We hardly got a mention apart form in "good call, bad call"
Pretty boring night on Footy Classified ;D
I think we may get a slight mention tonight especially from Caro :whistle
Agree I think Caro will be blowing her "foghorn" loudly tonight, with a few "I told ya so"s for good measure
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We hardly got a mention apart form in "good call, bad call"
Pretty boring night on Footy Classified ;D
I think we may get a slight mention tonight especially from Caro :whistle
Agree I think Caro will be blowing her "foghorn" loudly tonight, with a few "I told ya so"s for good measure
hope they dont let her get away with insinuating Ben was responsible for the drinking. The only thing Ben did wrong was not put out connors cold!
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Sadly, it's already started with the headlines only about Benny and not about the 8 weeks handed to Connors for his continued stupidity.
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I keep saying it, the media drive the agenda in footy, I know for a fact that certain journos sit down pre season and create a hit list for coaches in the gun for the upcoming season and will continually put heat on him and the club to get a reaction. It's a big notch on the belt if the club/coach crack. I'm not defending Wallace for one second but last season from rnd 4 till the break was a classic example of what I'm talking about, the blow torch was on the club every week with "surely hes going to be sacked at mid season review, sack him now, dead man walking. It was diabolical.
The thing that jerks me around the most is they create the sensionalist headlines like now with cuz, chase him from car to clubrooms like vultures all day and then 'the issue' is richmond can't continue with the circus sideshow that is cousins, its distracting the club, cant control it yada yada, and then they turn around and say don't blame the media we are just reporting the facts! effing parasites are leading the merry dance. They create the issue and tend it, nourish it.
I think most ppl dont give 2 hoots about cuzmania anymore yet the media are making it into an issue with no facts to keep the interest up. First Caro with the insinuations, he's go problems but Im not implying he does, then ricky-I saw him with his shirt off-ollarenshaw made a slly comment that had the media chirping, now cuz is suspended but nothing about the real muppet connors. This isn't just coincidence, this is a sytematic attack on a target. I effing hate this type of journos, lowest life forms.
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I keep saying it, the media drive the agenda in footy, I know for a fact that certain journos sit down pre season and create a hit list for coaches in the gun for the upcoming season and will continually put heat on him and the club to get a reaction. It's a big notch on the belt if the club/coach crack. I'm not defending Wallace for one second but last season from rnd 4 till the break was a classic example of what I'm talking about, the blow torch was on the club every week with "surely hes going to be sacked at mid season review, sack him now, dead man walking. It was diabolical.
The thing that jerks me around the most is they create the sensionalist headlines like now with cuz, chase him from car to clubrooms like vultures all day and then 'the issue' is richmond can't continue with the circus sideshow that is cousins, its distracting the club, cant control it yada yada, and then they turn around and say don't blame the media we are just reporting the facts! effing parasites are leading the merry dance. They create the issue and tend it, nourish it.
I think most ppl dont give 2 hoots about cuzmania anymore yet the media are making it into an issue with no facts to keep the interest up. First Caro with the insinuations, he's go problems but Im not implying he does, then ricky-I saw him with his shirt off-ollarenshaw made a slly comment that had the media chirping, now cuz is suspended but nothing about the real muppet connors. This isn't just coincidence, this is a sytematic attack on a target. I effing hate this type of journos, lowest life forms.
Magnificent post.
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Hutchy says he's going to tell what Connors did to earn such a suspension.
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Brief Summary
According to Hutchy, Connors got drunk at the hotel mini-bar and tried to fight his teammates and had to be physically restrained by the 3 other teammates.
Caro said it was more 4-5am. She doesn't believe they others were not drunk. Not great leadership from them. Thomas and Lyon questioned her about the others being drunk and Caro replied you don't cop a week's suspension for nothing.
All agreed it was a tough line shown by Hardwick. Caro said Richmond will finish down the bottom so have nothing to lose with such a stand.
Lyon said Dimma should sit down with Ben and ask what it his purpose at this footy club. Talk from inside is Cousins has been a positive influence on the kids on the training track.
Hutchy said Richmond should cut their ties with Cousins. 31 years old and constant trouble. Every game he gets is a game a young kid doesn't get. He won't be getting a game within a month in Hutchy's opinion.
Caro repeated her claim Cuz was told last year to curtail his binge drinking and although the Club denied it publicly they have admitted privately.
Thomas said Cuz should have shown leadership by not making the incident start in the first place.
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Well like I and many have said in the other related posts, this club just did not need this crap now or ever but particularly not now. What did those involved think out of this, did they think that the media and people like Caro and Hutchy would say nothing. They wollow in this tripe, but in the end it was the players that created it not the media.
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It was farcical how on the news tonight it was still all about Cousins, Cousins, Cousins. I would have thought that with an eight week suspension the centrepiece of the story was Connors.
Now that gutter-sniping scum rat Hutchy is saying we should cut our losses with Cousins. It's absolutely true that these media whores have an agenda to drive certain people out of the game, be it coaches or players they have in their sights.
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Great post Tony Montana.
Seeing those ferrets running after our players on the Footy Classified footage just shows how much the media love to really put down our club.
Cuz, a ONE WEEK suspension and they follow him around like he's a serial killer on trial.
stuffing makes me sick and angry.
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Agree RR. It was Connors fault yet Cuz's face is on the front page of tomorrow's Herald-Sun. It was Connors who got smashed off his face and wanted to take everyone on.
This will be Cuz's last year anyway so why should the Club part with him before the end of the season and add to the media's obsession and headlines.
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Agree RR. It was Connors fault yet Cuz's face is on the front page of tomorrow's Herald-Sun. It was Connors who got smashed off his face and wanted to take everyone on.
This will be Cuz's last year anyway so why should the Club part with him before the end of the season and add to the media's obsession and headlines.
Other issues there MT, I hope Cuz can play on, although it might come to end , very soon.
He might want to give it away
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Agree. The fact they all either state they would have never had him to the club in the first place or that he will be gone in the next month is deplorable! What has he really done - nothing but not given the journo's the headlines they were hoping for when we drafted him about him losing his way again?!
Caro is like a dog with a bone the way she continues to write her own truth even when the club has gone on record stating categorically that Cousins has NOT been spoken to by any member of the current club about his drinking. Made her look silly so now she will continue to run with it just the same as her vendetta to slur Eddie at any opportunity. Cousins is not the story here but she and her buddies make him the story because Ben sells papers where a no-name like Connors doesn't.
Caro stated quiet proudly that she doesn't given any favours out to her sources or has alliances with any clubs. I hope when we regain our power as a club and become the medias new golden club, we remember that and give her nothing. :-X
I hope Cousins proves them all wrong and has a stellar season.
Stripes
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Agree RR. It was Connors fault yet Cuz's face is on the front page of tomorrow's Herald-Sun. It was Connors who got smashed off his face and wanted to take everyone on.
This will be Cuz's last year anyway so why should the Club part with him before the end of the season and add to the media's obsession and headlines.
Other issues there MT, I hope Cuz can play on, although it might come to end , very soon.
He might want to give it away
That would be the media's wish. They get another "dramatic" headline out of it.
Of course there are other issues. I've just think he'll want to play out the season, retire on his terms (so he's out of the AFL loop) and then release his doco in full.
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Yes, but not the obvious issue you will find.
You mention the documentary ;)
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Yes, but not the obvious issue you will find.
You mention the documentary ;)
Oh God, here comes the innuendo and winky-winky again. Just tell us what you think you know and have done with it Jacko.
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Well I did , cant you read ???
Documentary
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Well I did , cant you read ???
Documentary
Yes, but what about the documentary? My point is that you've been implying for some time now that you have some kind of insider knowledge that there's more to the Ben Cousins saga than meets the eye. The "hospital visits" the "knee injury", and the over-use of "inverted comma's" :lol........
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Case in point on the media making this about Cousins, Channel nine pre news headlines last night..."Cousins given one week suspension, while another player got eight weeks"
Wonder if they even knew who "another" player was!....VULTURES! :banghead
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Lyon, Caro, Hutchy and Thomas coming up at 10.30 tonight.
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Lyon, Caro, Hutchy and Thomas coming up at 10.30 tonight.
I don't think we have to worry anymore, surley they can't say anything worse about us than they and other media outlets have since after round one.
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Lyon, Caro, Hutchy and Thomas coming up at 10.30 tonight.
haha that is good as.
not looking forward to what they say tonight probly something about us being in huge trouble cause of being pumped by melb and more about cousins from Caro no doubt.
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Only bit about Richmond tonight was about Simmo and Tucky.
Lyon said there's no point playing them in the side. Tucky tries hard and gets lots of the ball but turns it over nearly every time (they showed about six kicks from Tucky going straight to Melbourne players). While Simmo is just making basic mistakes and looks finished (showed him dropping marks, fumbling and missing targets). Both look like players who know their future is under a cloud and their making basic mistakes.
Caro is concerned about Vickery also. Lyon said he's young so he has time on his side and you play him. Simmo and Tuck have had their time and it's time to go. No point playing them.
Caro said there was talk earlier in the year that the Club wanted Simmo to play on again next year given the ruck situation with Graham not coming on but she can't see that happening now. Simmond's been poor this year.
ps. Hutchy called it a "good call" that the bookies are paying out already on us winning the spoon.
Hutchy also reckons it's a "good call" that Connors should be allowed to play at VFL level (we barred him from playing for six weeks). Even if it's for 10 weeks Connors should be playing some footy.
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A little bit on us last night's show....
They showed the vision again of Jack Riewoldt on the outskirts of the forwards group at half-time not looking like he was paying attention to watch the forward line coach was saying. Then they cut to our first forward foray in the 3rd quarter and Jack was 10m behind his Freo opponent who took an easy uncontested mark.
They also showed Jack falling backwards easily to try and pull a free when Ballantyne gave him a slight push. Lyon wanted that pulled up as part of the new anti-diving rule.
Good call/bad call question ---- Deledio is not a midfielder?
Garry Lyon said bad call. He's a HBF at Richmond because that's his best position given the ball is down there a lot but if he was at Geelong he'd be in the middle and be a champion.
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Lyon, Caro, Hutchy and Thomas coming up at 10.30 tonight.
Bump. The 4 muppets coming up now.
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Thank God I have to wait until 10.30 WST for thr drival.
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They've just gone to town on us......
* Hutchy said there's a massive problem in the comp - it's Richmond - they are uncompetitive. A blight on the game. As bad as Fitzroy.
* Caro said Tuck was our best player yesterday and he's supposedly not part of Hardwick's future.
* AFL gravely worried about Richmond according to Caro. AFL has said no extra picks as well.
* Caro blamed Terry, Miller, Beck ... no one accepts blame and just points fingers and blames lack of resources. They totally destroyed that club. Caro wants them to publicly accept responsibility. Lyon said that's not going to change where we are now.
* Caro said Hardwick has inherited a complete basketcase. Lyon said other clubs like Melbourne have been a basketcase. Caro said no Bailey inherited a divided board not a basketcase.
* Hutchy said the recruit of Cousins and talk of on-field leadership is waning by the day.
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They've just gone to town on us......
* Hutchy said there's a massive problem in the comp - it's Richmond - they are uncompetitive. A blight on the game. As bad as Fitzroy.
* AFL gravely worried about Richmond according to Caro. AFL has said no extra picks as well.
* Caro blamed Terry, Miller, Beck ... no one accepts blame and just points fingers and blames lack of resources. They totally destroyed that club. Caro wants them to publicly accept responsibility. Lyon said that's not going to change where we are now.
* Caro said Hardwick has inherited a complete basketcase. Lyon said other clubs like Melbourne have been a basketcase. Caro said no Bailey inherited a divided board not a basketcase.
* Hutchy said the recruit of Cousins and talk of on-field leadership is waning by the day.
Geez just when we thought the media couldn't get any worse. Interesting that the AFL has said no extra picks, has someone from the club been to see them???
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
Most of it was correct, although I'm not sure why the AFL would be worried about a club with the 3rd most members in Victoria. We're not as bad as Fitzroy either, Fitzroy wasn't just about their onfield performance.
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No amount of media talk and print, supporter complaints, caller feedback etc will fix our club. They're right but of course unfortunately don't have an answer for it.
Only in father time will our club be fixed with good recruitment and development from here on.
The media can go to town on us as much as they like, as Hutchy said no acceptance is going to change things. Just as much as the constant whinging by media and supporters alike.
:rollin Such is Life.
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LMAO@ Hutchence having a Ben Cousins "on field leadership" barometer that he checks daily. :wallywink
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
Most of it was correct, although I'm not sure why the AFL would be worried about a club with the 3rd most members in Victoria. We're not as bad as Fitzroy either, Fitzroy wasn't just about their onfield performance.
Read todays paper, AFL extremely worried about RFC.
If will be a flow on affect to sponsors and membership in 2011
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
Most of it was correct, although I'm not sure why the AFL would be worried about a club with the 3rd most members in Victoria. We're not as bad as Fitzroy either, Fitzroy wasn't just about their onfield performance.
Read todays paper, AFL extremely worried about RFC.
If will be a flow on affect to sponsors and membership in 2011
thanks hutchy
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
Most of it was correct, although I'm not sure why the AFL would be worried about a club with the 3rd most members in Victoria. We're not as bad as Fitzroy either, Fitzroy wasn't just about their onfield performance.
Read todays paper, AFL extremely worried about RFC.
If will be a flow on affect to sponsors and membership in 2011
thanks hutchy
Well mate, its true.
You see how many Sunday arvo games we will get in 2011
Our sponsors will drop off, wait and see.
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Would believe evertthing Caro and Hutchy said was correct.
Er NO everything she said was not correct
She went off one her "blame game" rants again. Seriously what's the point constantly bringing it up? Pointless exercise to be honest. Actually had to agree with Lyon it isn't going to solve anything now.
She then said the AFL is extremely worried about the RFC - on field YES I would think so, off field absolutely not. Convienient she left that bit out
She then waffled on about sponsors and "implied" we would have none in 2011. Absolute CRAP!!! We have record sponsorship levels this season and many of them are tied in for 2011, so to imply that we are going to have no sponsors in 2011 was another Caro "gutter journalism grab".
The only thing I do agree with her on however is games for next year. There is no way in hell we are going to hold onto the first game of the season for 2011 and nor do we deserve too. As for other marquee games the only one we are guaranteed to keep is "Dreamtime at the "G", any others we will have to wait and see. Keep losing the way we are and we are going to struggle to get on FTA in 2011 and that is a major concern
As for Hutchy's snide Cousins remarks - he obviously misses hiding out in Ben's garbage bin ::)
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RFC suppporters need a reason to go to the footy, taking the 1st game of the season from us helps no one. We still draw big crowds anyway!
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RFC suppporters need a reason to go to the footy, taking the 1st game of the season from us helps no one. We still draw big crowds anyway!
Spot on Ramps. If the AFL are genuinely worried then we will keep that game, if the worry is not genuine and they want us gone then we will lose both marquee games.
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Can't wait to win the few games that we will win this year and then replay their cheap shots. They are a pox on journalism, there is no accurate reporting here, just opinions from people with agendas. Just as we all have opinions, at least most of us don't have an agenda and don't have the need to continually tell others of how poor we play at times. Seems like they think all their viewers are completely ignorant fools. Maybe they should look in a mirror occasionally.
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LMAO@ Hutchence having a Ben Cousins "on field leadership" barometer that he checks daily. :wallywink
I agree with him that any impact has been vastly overstated.
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Here's the link to Caro and Hutchy talking about Richmond on Monday night
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/footyclassified/
Someone has also put it up on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOKHETZKG0I
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Cousins has got to go!
:)
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Cousins has got to go!
:)
Why because Hutchy says so.... noticed none of the other fools on that show bothered to even discuss it with him this week
Sorry but I totally disagree. Seems people still don't understand what he brings to the club, either that or they chose to ignore it because it's easier to stick the boots in.
Gee how things change in 12 months. Media start going after us and Tiger people panic and look for a scapegoat... ::)
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Ill doff my hat to Lyons here, he pulled Caro up on laying into us, and actually stood up for us and our right to receive picks like everyone else ...
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A reminder FC is on tonight at 10.30pm.
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A reminder FC is on tonight at 10.30pm.
Oh good, can't wait for this eppisode.... :P
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A reminder FC is on tonight at 10.30pm.
No its not, not even in the TV guides
Where did you get this from?
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its on now
currently crapping on about ian robson
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They said they'll crap on about us later with the issues in the board room.
Hmm election this year and all of a sudden there's an off field crisis at Richmond. I wonder if that Scurrilous So and So will name any names or just tell us she has info on good authority.
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Whoops, had it on the wrong channel :wallywink
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Pretty positive about us actually
Glad Caro said that March should stay and a board challenge was a bad idea
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Brief summary
* They were pretty positive about us being competitive for 3.5 quarters. They showed the scores were level with 15 minutes to go.
* Caro said the players had talked before the game as this was their Grand Final. A win would have transformed the club in her opinion. Unfortunately they didn't win. Hard to kick goals when smalls Nahas and Nason are your main forwards.
* Thomas believes the first 3 quarters and especially the start was the first time Richmond played at the intensity that Hardwick would want. If they can bottle that and take that with them forward then they'll be on the right track. Sure they don't have the players yet but a side isn't built around a player. It's built on setting standards.
* Caro isn't aware of any specific challenge. She hears Geoff Raines has been approached but she can't believe a challenge would get up lead by him. The last thing the club needs right now is a Board challenge.
* There's a feeling they need a wealthy strong president. A Richard Pratt type. Caro added they don't need that type right now though. March has admitted mistakes were made in the past and should be allowed to continue on.
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Yeah gee wouldn't Raines be a great fit after bagging the club about his Son......NOT!!!
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They couldn't go the whole episode without one snide go at us. Good call/Bad call question was "Should GWS and GC17 be grouped with Richmond in the NAB Cup next year?". Hutchy said yes as everyone knows GWS and Richmond will be the two worse teams next year .
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Brief summary
* Thomas believes the first 3 quarters and especially the start was the first time Richmond played at the intensity that Hardwick would want. If they can bottle that and take that with them forward then they'll be on the right track. Sure they don't have the players yet but a side isn't built around a player. It's built on setting standards.
that is exactly on the money, its resolve/discipline/intensity/honesty in the playing group that transforms a club and this doesnt happen with a snap of the fingers
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Some on here seem to think it should.
Maybe they should write a letter to santa or leave a note under their pillow for the tooth fairy
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Some on here seem to think it should.
Maybe they should write a letter to santa or leave a note under their pillow for the tooth fairy
it quicker to go to Rovanemi Lapland to the Santa Village & visit him ;D his real :thumbsup l seen him & his 8 twins ;D all dressed the same :lol
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Brief summary
* Thomas believes the first 3 quarters and especially the start was the first time Richmond played at the intensity that Hardwick would want. If they can bottle that and take that with them forward then they'll be on the right track. Sure they don't have the players yet but a side isn't built around a player. It's built on setting standards.
that is exactly on the money, its resolve/discipline/intensity/honesty in the playing group that transforms a club and this doesnt happen with a snap of the fingers
Grant Thomas :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Brief summary
* Thomas believes the first 3 quarters and especially the start was the first time Richmond played at the intensity that Hardwick would want. If they can bottle that and take that with them forward then they'll be on the right track. Sure they don't have the players yet but a side isn't built around a player. It's built on setting standards.
that is exactly on the money, its resolve/discipline/intensity/honesty in the playing group that transforms a club and this doesnt happen with a snap of the fingers
Grant Thomas :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Ok Jack I remember a Thomas quote on FC last year where he stated that when he was coach at St KIlda he loved playing Richmond b/c they had a soft centre and you were all over it. Take it easy. The agenda against Hardwick you've had is almost maniacal.
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Brief summary
* Thomas believes the first 3 quarters and especially the start was the first time Richmond played at the intensity that Hardwick would want. If they can bottle that and take that with them forward then they'll be on the right track. Sure they don't have the players yet but a side isn't built around a player. It's built on setting standards.
that is exactly on the money, its resolve/discipline/intensity/honesty in the playing group that transforms a club and this doesnt happen with a snap of the fingers
Grant Thomas :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
funny, most people think the same about you but as the saying goes it's like a do do sticking their head in the sand.....
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The 4 amigos on now.
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The 4 amigos on now.
Oh good!!
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they brought up Newman, grabbing the jumper after he kicked that massive goal. I forgot about this but i freaking love seeing the players showing passion for the jumper.
Best game i have seen him play as a captain.
Also brought up Dustin Martin in good call bad call and whether Sheedy should keeps his hands off him. Thomas said that all teams have a priority to get the best talent available.
Goodluck getting him Sheeds- we have plenty more cash to splash than teams like Geelong and Hawthorn and GC couldnt get one of their big names.
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Cheers for that cranny :cheers
Caro said Sunday was a heartbreaking loss. We should have won. Tiger supporters would've been happy after last week to see us have the mental application to play out the whole game. Lyon reckons we'll now win a game this year and Thomas said we're on the right track.
The main news was Jonathan Brown and Fev were both off to Adelaide to seek treatment for their injuries. Betting on the Brisbane vs Adelaide game has been suspended.
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Lyon, Caro, Hutchy and Cornflakes on now.
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A couple of things about us tonight.....
Lyon praised Jack Riewoldt. Saying he is probably being judged harshly knowing how difficult it is playing in a poor struggling side. He's having a great year. Thomas said he met Jack first in Tasmania and Jack trained with them (Saints) when he was 15. Thomas said he's one of the best contested marks in the comp. and knows how to position himself. He wants to succeed and Thomas said he knew all along he'd make it.
The obligatory goodcall/bad call Richmond question was about Cuz. Hutchy said Cuz is finished and Hutchy repeated that he said so a couple of weeks back. Hutchy called Cuz a list clogger in his present state preventing someone much younger from get games.
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Good to hear about Jack getting praise, Hutchy, do everyone a favour and go away!!!
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The media are obsessed with Cuz as Benny Gale rightly mentioned on the show weeks ago. Ch 7's match report on Sunday night went something like "Essendon won last night's dreamtime at the 'G match by 35 points with Tiger Ben Cousins getting 17 possessions" lol.
It's Cuz's last year so of course he's finished. However 13 more matches from him isn't going to kill us. We have 17 players 23 y.o. and under in the side as it is. I think we're already giving the cubs a good run Hutchy.
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The media are obsessed with Cuz as Benny Gale rightly mentioned on the show weeks ago. Ch 7's match report on Sunday night went something like "Essendon won last night's dreamtime at the 'G match by 35 points with Tiger Ben Cousins getting 17 possessions" lol.
It's Cuz's last year so of course he's finished. However 13 more matches from him isn't going to kill us. We have 17 players 23 y.o. and under in the side as it is. I think we're already giving the cubs a good run Hutchy.
It's the latest agenda going by the 2 new articles in the Sun today. And lo and behold if they weren't written by the 2 mates who do a footy internet magazine together - Sheehan and Robinson. And lo and behold if Sheehan isn't the one that Cousins made look stupid in the interview 2 weeks ago. Funny that. >:(
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The 4 amigos on now. It must kill them that they can't bag us tonight :wallywink.
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A very glowing report by all......
* Caro said she was glad our first win was a win in the Hardwick-style. Inspiring.
* Thomas said we'll get a lot of out of this - a win with tough, honest footy on the road.
* Lyon said Cotch has future captain all over him. His stats have gone right up in the past month
Rounds 1-4 8.8 kicks 4.4 hbs 2.0 inside 50s
Rounds 5-10 12.8 kicks 4.4 hbs 3.2 inside 50s
They showed vision of Cotch winning the footy in traffic. Great to watch again :bow.
Lyon said we've got the building blocks of a strong midfield with Cotchin, Martin and Deledio.
Caro said the current captain was great as well.
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Caro said the current captain was great as well.
I agree with Caro :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
:rollin :rollin
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Did Hutchy mention anything about his view on Cousins is finished?
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Did Hutchy mention anything about his view on Cousins is finished?
Not surprisingly no. I know on the radio after the game it was yeah Cuz was very good but one game in wet conditions (ie. not a game based on speed) hasn't fully answered his critics.
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Caro 50 today along Lyon, Hutchy and Cornflakes on now.
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The weekly Good call/Bad call question about Richmond .....
Q. Cotchin, Martin & Riewoldt will turn out to be a better group of players for Richmond than Campbell, Knights & Richo were?
Caro said yes.
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is it just me or is footy classified gotten abit boring of late.
one week at a time isnt to bad.
sunday footy show is probly still one of the best footy shows on
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have a listen to Milney would you.
please feel sorry for the little rat for all the abuse he cops over the fence...lol
get over it you litte idiot
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spare the twirp.
Edited for legal reasons. For the final time you cannot label someone with a term that relates to a criminal offence when they have not been found guilty of it in a court of law.
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Can you call him an alleged rapist or formerly alleged rapist lol? :cheers
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Can you call him an alleged rapist or formerly alleged rapist lol? :cheers
as a team they have ALLEGEDLY raped more girls than won flags...
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LOL I know nothing
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Can you call him an alleged rapist or formerly alleged rapist lol? :cheers
as a team they have ALLEGEDLY raped more girls than won flags...
Made me giggle that statement... :clapping
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Can you call him an alleged rapist or formerly alleged rapist lol? :cheers
NO on all counts
He wasn't charged, therefore not convicted - end of story cannot even imply. And please don't use what happened with Malthouse as a reason to keep using the term. Legally, The Twirp could sue Malthouse if he wanted to... that is how serious this can be
as a team they have ALLEGEDLY raped more girls than won flags...
And this is close to the line as well - I am assuming you are referring to the incident with the school girl? Three are no charges pending so no-one has or "allegedly" raped anyone and you cannot infer that they have.
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Legally, The Twirp could sue Malthouse if he wanted to... that is how serious this can be
but he won't because he allegedly did what he allegedly didn't do.
lol@ MORE FELONS THAN PREMIERSHIP CUPS ! :rollin
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And this is close to the line as well - I am assuming you are referring to the incident with the school girl? Three are no charges pending so no-one has or "allegedly" raped anyone and you cannot infer that they have.
I thing he means the total of allegations combined between,Milne,Montagna and Lovett-Murray....bu if u want to add the school girl incident then you could even say they had more tree-sitters than mid-fielders.
Mathematically that makes Daniel correct....allegedly.
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For the record,my daughter will never barrack for st.kilda.
Too many allegations flying around :lol
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And this is close to the line as well - I am assuming you are referring to the incident with the school girl? Three are no charges pending so no-one has or "allegedly" raped anyone and you cannot infer that they have.
I thing he means the total of allegations combined between,Milne,Montagna and Lovett-Murray....bu if u want to add the school girl incident then you could even say they had more tree-sitters than mid-fielders.
Mathematically that makes Daniel correct....allegedly.
:ROTFL
allegedly of course.
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A couple of days ago while the forum was down but did anyone else watch Hutchy's overdramatics on Footy Classifield on Monday night?
Hutchy wanted Richmond/Hardwick fined $10-20k for Dimma telling Jack "no media" after the game. Hutchy called it "a disgrace" and Hardwick should realise he has an obligation to the footy public and the media broadcaster's (FOX) rights ::). Hardwick has apologised afterwards but Hutchy still was carrying on.
Caro said Hardwick is no media hater and probably wanted to keep a lid on things. Thomas said Hardwick shouldn't have done it but he is probably trying to avoid Jack saying anything in the moment that puts focus on one individual and Dimma wants to keep the focus on building a team-centred culture.
On a separate topic, Caro said our media manager Judith Donnelly is stepping down and will be replaced by Simon Matthews (who arrives from Essendon I believe).
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On a separate topic, Caro said our media manager Judith Donnelly is stepping down and will be replaced by Simon Matthews (who arrives from Essendon I believe).
Correct
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Hitchy is a tool, plain and simple. If the club doesn't want someone to be interviewed then they should have the right to say they can't be interviewed. There was no contractual obligation so Hutch can go and get stuffed!
By the way - nice to have the board up and running again. I resorted to looking at other boards but it was just not the same :cuddles :whistle
Stripes
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All these parasite journos/commentators enjoyed making fun of us in the first 8 rounds, now they want to jump on the bandwagon.
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I thought it was a fantastic "Up yours" to the media who have been outright cruel to us throughout our year of "transformation".
The media need to find another team they can lable the "new Fitzroy".
I haven't heard these media clowns retract any of their ridiculous comments yet.
Special mention to Dennis Cometti.....should eagles fans renew their memberships for 2011 ?
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There was no contractual obligation so Hutch can go and get stuffed!
Not sticking up for Hutchy as I thought he carried on like the tool he is
But....
Sorry Stripes there is a "contractual obligation" in place
Under the current TV rights deal the TV broadcasters have the right to request after match interviews with any player and the Clubs are obligated to make ALL players available for said interviews.
The Club made an error (in this case Hardwick) but it certainly wasn't the drama Hutchy made it out to be
Hardwick's apologised; ditto the club Foxtel are OK with it - no big deal
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There was no contractual obligation so Hutch can go and get stuffed!
Not sticking up for Hutchy as I thought he carried on like the tool he is
But....
Sorry Stripes there is a "contractual obligation" in place
Under the current TV rights deal the TV broadcasters have the right to request after match interviews with any player and the Clubs are obligated to make ALL players available for said interviews.
The Club made an error (in this case Hardwick) but it certainly wasn't the drama Hutchy made it out to be
Hardwick's apologised; ditto the club Foxtel are OK with it - no big deal
fair call WP but i recall hawthorn refusing to allow buddy to interview until a few years ago, you never heard them get strung and quartered for it.
and mat073 loved your post, these clowns make life a living hell for the club and supporters with the systematic attacks and outlandish statements and yet here we are 8 weeks & 2 wins later nowhere near a fitzroy and do any of them retract their mischievous statements? of course not, just brush it under the carpet and move on, it shouldnt be that easy! That systematic attack could have and probably did impact our membership campaign with all that constant OTT negativity, if I was the club i'd still be filthy and would have the names of all those parasite journos up on the wall - never to receive exclusives again
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fair call WP but i recall hawthorn refusing to allow buddy to interview until a few years ago, you never heard them get strung and quartered for it.
The compulsory interview thing is only for the TV broadcasters and is only under the current agreement that is in now in year 4
Certainly wasn't in place under the previous deal and I suppose at $780mil they are entitled to demand it
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fair call WP but i recall hawthorn refusing to allow buddy to interview until a few years ago, you never heard them get strung and quartered for it.
The compulsory interview thing is only for the TV broadcasters and is only under the current agreement that is in now in year 4
Certainly wasn't in place under the previous deal and I suppose at $780mil they are entitled to demand it
My understanding is that Seven And Ten won the TV right to broadcast contract and sub contracted out to Foxtel if I am correct Foxtel has no rights in this situation
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A couple of days ago while the forum was down but did anyone else watch Hutchy's overdramatics on Footy Classifield on Monday night?
Hutchy wanted Richmond/Hardwick fined $10-20k for Dimma telling Jack "no media" after the game. Hutchy called it "a disgrace" and Hardwick should realise he has an obligation to the footy public and the media broadcaster's (FOX) rights ::). Hardwick has apologised afterwards but Hutchy still was carrying on.
Caro said Hardwick is no media hater and probably wanted to keep a lid on things. Thomas said Hardwick shouldn't have done it but he is probably trying to avoid Jack saying anything in the moment that puts focus on one individual and Dimma wants to keep the focus on building a team-centred culture.
On a separate topic, Caro said our media manager Judith Donnelly is stepping down and will be replaced by Simon Matthews (who arrives from Essendon I believe).
A bit rich banging on about obligations to the the football public when fox only broadcast to an exclusive few.
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Hey I paid my money ! wheres my INTERVIEW!!!! lol
Here ill write it for you all;
"It was a team effort, gave a 110%, the boys dug in deep, kept the ball coming in giving me the opportunities, its not just about the individual.."
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My understanding is that Seven And Ten won the TV right to broadcast contract and sub contracted out to Foxtel if I am correct Foxtel has no rights in this situation
Incorrect Mopsy - as part of the agreement that Foxtel has with Seven & Ten (and therefore by extension the AFL)all contractual obligations from the current TV deal carry over to Fox because Foxtel are deemed an official broadcaster.
The agreement is very clear - all official broadcasters have the right to request interviews with any player at the completion of any game and any and all players must be made available
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when we played freo, foxsports bagged the living poo out of jack, im glad he rejected then.
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when we played freo, foxsports bagged the living poo out of jack, im glad he rejected then.
X, Jack didn't "reject" them
Dimma sent the runner out and told the runner to tell Jack he wasn't to speak to the media
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when we played freo, foxsports bagged the living poo out of jack, im glad he rejected then.
X, Jack didn't "reject" them
Dimma sent the runner out and told the runner to tell Jack he wasn't to speak to the media
thats what they say , i dont believe it, they are just protecting jack imo, if that is teh case why did he speak to sen radio, they are media. the club did this well
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Who GAF!
stuff the afl contract - they suck ars.
When was the last time they did anything for us ?
Do it until we get fined,i dont care.
We got away with it and it was GREAT to see the sijtman Hutchy carry on like the unimportant,disrespected fool he is.
kudos to Grant Thomas :thumbsup
A GREAT move by the club keeping Jack away from the circus.
I think it would have disrupted his season
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My understanding is that Seven And Ten won the TV right to broadcast contract and sub contracted out to Foxtel if I am correct Foxtel has no rights in this situation
Incorrect Mopsy - as part of the agreement that Foxtel has with Seven & Ten (and therefore by extension the AFL)all contractual obligations from the current TV deal carry over to Fox because Foxtel are deemed an official broadcaster.
The agreement is very clear - all official broadcasters have the right to request interviews with any player at the completion of any game and any and all players must be made available
I stand corrected WP
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Freedom of speech also contains the right to say no ...
& up yours Duuurrrwayne
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I wish it went both ways and clubs could speak out regharding the crap umpiring
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We got a decent mention tonight...
Caro tonight re-told the story of her writing the article about us getting the St Kilda game moved from Etihad to the MCG and Demetriou cracking the sooks over us "boasting" about it and he changed it back. Both clubs backed her story up. Hutchy laughed as he didn't believe it.
On us Thomas said there's great enthusiasm and workrate. Shows Hardwick has the right model. He's been patient.
Our long kicks are way up over the past month. Thomo said it simply shows Jack is proving a tall marking option:
43.3 R 1-9
56.2 R 10-13
Thomas said we lacked respect from the oppositon. You wouldn't get to face a more inept Brisbane side.
Hutchy said it's a tragedy Martin can't win the rising star. Surely you should still be able to win it despite missing one game. Lyon said Martin is clearly the standout first year. A class act. Dusty has had twice as many clearances (5.2) as Scully, Trengove (2.6). Also more inside 50s: averaging 3.6 to the others 2.5.
They all praised Gus' game - 23 possies, 12 marks. Simmo made the right decision to step down which has given Graham the opportunity.
They compared Brisbane's recruiting to ours under Spud after 2001 when we topped up with Stafford and Hudson. Similar win/loss story the following year too. Hutchy bagged the Lions for giving Raines 3 year contract when he couldn't get a game for us.
In Good call/Bad call Caro asked Thomas that Richmond shouldn't win more than one more game for draft purposes (ie. priority pick). Thomas said bad call but he didn't know or say why. Caro said we should win as many games as win can.
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We got a decent mention tonight...
Caro tonight re-told the story of her writing the article about us getting the St Kilda game moved from Etihad to the MCG and Demetriou cracking the sooks over us "boasting" about it and he changed it back. Both clubs backed her story up. Hutchy laughed as he didn't believe it.
On us Thomas said there's great enthusiasm and workrate. Shows Hardwick has the right model. He's been patient.
Our long kicks are way up over the past 4 months. Thomo said it simply shows Jack is proving a tall marking option:
43.3 R 1-9
56.2 R 10-13
Thomas said we lacked respect from the oppositon. You wouldn't get to face a more inept Brisbane side.
Hutchy said it's a tragedy Martin can't win the rising star. Surely you should still be able to win it despite missing one game. Lyon said Martin is clearly the standout first year. A class act. Dusty has had twice as many clearances (5.2) as Scully, Trengove (2.6). Also more inside 50s: averaging 3.6 to the others 2.5.
They all praised Gus' game - 23 possies, 12 marks. Simmo made the right decision to step down which has given Graham the opportunity.
They compared Brisbane's recruiting to ours under Spud after 2001 when we topped up with Stafford and Hudson. Similar win/loss story the following year too. Hutchy bagged the Lions for giving Raines 3 year contract when he couldn't get a game for us.
In Good call/Bad call Caro asked Thomas that Richmond shouldn't win more than one more game for draft purposes (ie. priority pick). Thomas said bad call but he didn't know or say why. Caro said we should win as many games as win can.
and she also said something like "not like other teams Richmond dont tank"..wonder who she was alluding to.
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and she also said something like "not like other teams Richmond dont tank"..wonder who she was alluding to.
She said it looking at Garry :whistle
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Yep, Caro gave Garry a nice little back hander to end the show.
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lol you guys still watching this rubbish
How is old Caro ;D
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Tonight they showed the form ladder over the past month and we are 4th :thumbsup
W L D % Pts
1. St Kilda 4 - - 151.2 16
2. Hawthorn 4 - - 125.1 16
3. Geelong 3 1 - 136.1 12
4. Richmond 3 1 - 126.6 12
5. North Melb 3 1 - 101.3 12
6. Collingwood 2 1 1 108.0 10
7. W.Bulldogs 2 2 - 132.4 8
8. Carlton 2 2 - 109.7 8
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9. Fremantle 2 2 - 108.2 8
10. Sydney 2 2 - 106.5 8
11. Adelaide 2 2 - 93.3 8
12. Brisbane 1 3 - 80.6 4
13. Essendon 1 3 - 79.8 4
14. Melbourne - 3 1 66.5 2
15. West Coast - 4 - 65.5 0
16. Port Adel - 4 - 64.6 0
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Nice percentage!
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lol you guys still watching this rubbish
How is old Caro ;D
Try and smile once and a while Monk. Life isn't that bad champ
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Another gem from Mike on the couch tonight - "you can have your structures and game plans all you want, but richmond are showing all thats out the door when you play with passion" ::) ::) ::) Yeah idiot that's what it is, got nothing whatsoever to do with the structures and team rules hardwick has introduced. Way to sell us (especally Dimma) short. How does a dummy like this get a gig? fairdinkum... At least Hirdy disagreed and said but they do have and have improved their stuctures.
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lol you guys still watching this rubbish
How is old Caro ;D
Try and smile once and a while Monk. Life isn't that bad champ
another stupid post
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Another gem from Mike on the couch tonight - "you can have your structures and game plans all you want, but richmond are showing all thats out the door when you play with passion" ::) ::) ::) Yeah idiot that's what it is, got nothing whatsoever to do with the structures and team rules hardwick has introduced. Way to sell us (especally Dimma) short. How does a dummy like this get a gig? fairdinkum... At least Hirdy disagreed and said but they do have and have improved their stuctures.
Tony, it wouldn't even occur to Mike Sheahan that playing with passion (which is basically intensity) would be an integral part of the game plan itself.
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No Garry Lyon tonight so they have Dermie on instead .....
* Barrett still outside the Epworth saying Cuz will remain under sedation at least until tomorrow morning. He also has a breathing apparatus to help his breathing. Said Cuz took a 'No doze' common amongst footballers before the game to get him up and then a glass of wine afterwards and prescribed high-strength sleeping tablets.
* Caro said she heard rumours of drinking after the game but the club has denied that. Barrett said there was no talk of any benders. Cuz took the tablet privately in his residence or elsewhere out of the sight from the public.
* Caro wildly assuming again - saying the club is seriously concerned about Ben's health, that it's more about his health now than his football future, and that the club may have been naive saying it was only an adverse reaction to a sleeping tablet. It must be more than just 3 glasses of wine and a sleeping tablet.
* Dermie saying it's a serious issue. We've known prescription drugs can be dangerous if made into a cocktail.
* Thomas said it's gone beyond a football issue. It's now in the hands of the doctors.
* Caro said it's a pitty for Richmond as their past month has been spectatular.
* Dr Larkins said given his history with illicit drugs his body may be more susceptible to what his consumes so he needs to be more careful. He's taken sleeping tablets before so there must be something different about this episode.
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Got to love how Caro states her guessing as though it's fact. She won't let go of her drinking allegation from earlier in the season :sleep
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Onto our game....
* Thomas said it's Richmond's best win since their first win of the season (against Port). They never gave in and always had hope especially against the Swans who are renowned for squeezing sides when they have a good lead. Usually that never give in desire is the last piece of the jigsaw in teams so great that such a young side has that already.
* Hutchy said we won't make the Eight as they are too far back.
Fremantle (Etihad)
North Melb (MCG)
Collingwood (MCG)
Adelaide (MCG)
Melbourne (MCG)
Carlton (MCG)
St Kilda (Etihad)
Port Adel (Etihad)
Caro said we could still a chance because spots 7th and 8th is still susceptible. Dermie called Caro deluded as young sides always find rounds 14-20 tough. Give them a tick but young sides fatigue. Just enjoy the ride for the time being. Thomas said other clubs will seriously start to prepare against us now after 4 wins from our past 5. They can end up with 10 wins. Only Collingwood and St Kilda are definite losses.
* They praised Astbury, Collo and Dermie loves Martin. Caro doesn't like his tatts especially on his neck. She doesn't like tattoos full stop - Dane Swan's 'sleeve' etc. Players get addicted to it. She said if you want to make money get into tattoo removal in 10 years time when people won't want them anymore.
The obligatory Good call/Bad call question....
Q. Is Richmond the glamour team of the AFL?
A. Caro said yes. Incredible to say this considering where they were a month ago. The most exciting team going around at the moment.
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* Barrett still outside the Epworth saying Cuz will remain under sedation at least until tomorrow morning. He also has a breathing apparatus to help his breathing. Said Cuz took a 'No doze' common amongst footballers before the game to get him up and then a glass of wine afterwards and prescribed high-strength sleeping tablets.
Barrett talking out of his ass again, Temazepam are not high strength, they are weak as pee.
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* Barrett still outside the Epworth saying Cuz will remain under sedation at least until tomorrow morning. He also has a breathing apparatus to help his breathing. Said Cuz took a 'No doze' common amongst footballers before the game to get him up and then a glass of wine afterwards and prescribed high-strength sleeping tablets.
Barrett talking out of his ass again, Temazepam are not high strength, they are weak as pee.
i thought if your under sedation they always put a breathing piece in hense your knocked out and cant breath ya self. the quick 3 minute report of cuz being in hospital on lateline was better then the 15 minute blab-athon thoughs 4 put on.
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Hutchy is a teat
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* Barrett still outside the Epworth saying Cuz will remain under sedation at least until tomorrow morning. He also has a breathing apparatus to help his breathing. Said Cuz took a 'No doze' common amongst footballers before the game to get him up and then a glass of wine afterwards and prescribed high-strength sleeping tablets.
Barrett talking out of his ass again, Temazepam are not high strength, they are weak as pee.
i thought if your under sedation they always put a breathing piece in hense your knocked out and cant breath ya self. the quick 3 minute report of cuz being in hospital on lateline was better then the 15 minute blab-athon thoughs 4 put on.
I had a laugh at that too, he may have an oxygen mask, which is hardly a breathing aparatus.
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lol Infamy" Breathing apparatus" sounds so much more clever than oxygen mask.
I want to know why there was someone from the media at the hospital before the ambulance!!! :banghead
Our leak at the club needs to be outed, named and shamed publicly! >:(
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Another gem from Mike on the couch tonight - "you can have your structures and game plans all you want, but richmond are showing all thats out the door when you play with passion" ::) ::) ::) Yeah idiot that's what it is, got nothing whatsoever to do with the structures and team rules hardwick has introduced. Way to sell us (especally Dimma) short. How does a dummy like this get a gig? fairdinkum... At least Hirdy disagreed and said but they do have and have improved their stuctures.
Spot on TM - the very reasons that the media fools couldn't see what we were trying to implement when they called us "the worst ever" are still not capable of seeing. I don't know how or what you have to do to become a media 'expert' but having a football brain appears to be the least of the required credentials.
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I want to know why there was someone from the media at the hospital before the ambulance!!! :banghead
Our leak at the club needs to be outed, named and shamed publicly! >:(
Because Damian Barrett & his twin Hutchy would appear to take turns sleeping in Cuz's wheelie bin
i thought if your under sedation they always put a breathing piece in hense your knocked out and cant breath ya self. the quick 3 minute report of cuz being in hospital on lateline was better then the 15 minute blab-athon thoughs 4 put on.
Correct
It was gutter journalism of the highest order last night. Without actually saying it they implied a helluva lot without one shred of evidence :banghead :banghead
From Barrett's live cross outside Epworth , where he carried on and threw in that we mustn't forget Ben's history so we really don't know what he has taken
TO Hutchy's "he's a drug addict, always will be" rant in repsonse to Dermie's he's a "reformed drug addict" comment to which Caro chipped in "I think we should say "re-covering" drug addict"
To Caro's comments about his drinking this time (again no proof) and then bringing up her story from earlier inthe year about his drinking... we know the one that Benny Gale flatly denied
The only one who made any semsblence of sense was Grant Thomas who simply said he's a sick boy and it isn't a footy issue now, it's medical on e and it should be left at that
And then Hutchy finsihes by saying "we are all just concerned about Ben's health"
Please give me a break you hypocrite :banghead :banghead
It was pathetic, it was disgraceful it was gutter journalism again :banghead :banghead :banghead
But at the end of the day we shouldn't have expected anything more should we ???
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lol Infamy" Breathing apparatus" sounds so much more clever than oxygen mask.
I want to know why there was someone from the media at the hospital before the ambulance!!! :banghead
Our leak at the club needs to be outed, named and shamed publicly! >:(
Unless in this case 2JD the leak is at the hospital itself. Reporters from many facets of journalism would have sources at major hospitals for these type of 'scoops' and a call to say Ben Cousins is on his way in would be worthy of passing on. It wouldn't have taken Barrett more than 5 minutes to get from the city to Epworth with that type of news.
An example - my granddaughter was pulled from the bottom of our swimming pool and the TV cameras were waiting at the hospital for the ambulance to arrive. She made a full recovery but apart from the cameras at the hospital, within 15 minutes of the ambulance leaving our house we had a news helicopter hovering over our house and that vision made it to the news that night, with print journalists in our driveway within an hour of it all happening. Talk about vultures - it was very confronting and eye-opening.
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lol Infamy" Breathing apparatus" sounds so much more clever than oxygen mask.
I want to know why there was someone from the media at the hospital before the ambulance!!! :banghead
Our leak at the club needs to be outed, named and shamed publicly! >:(
Unless in this case 2JD the leak is at the hospital itself. Reporters from many facets of journalism would have sources at major hospitals for these type of 'scoops' and a call to say Ben Cousins is on his way in would be worthy of passing on. It wouldn't have taken Barrett more than 5 minutes to get from the city to Epworth with that type of news.
...or one of the ambos might have called it in?
(the ambos do a great job BTW)
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lol Infamy" Breathing apparatus" sounds so much more clever than oxygen mask.
I want to know why there was someone from the media at the hospital before the ambulance!!! :banghead
Our leak at the club needs to be outed, named and shamed publicly! >:(
Unless in this case 2JD the leak is at the hospital itself. Reporters from many facets of journalism would have sources at major hospitals for these type of 'scoops' and a call to say Ben Cousins is on his way in would be worthy of passing on. It wouldn't have taken Barrett more than 5 minutes to get from the city to Epworth with that type of news.
(the ambos do a great job BTW)
Welcome to the real world me :wallywink
It must have been the ambos,( I wouldve thought theyd have more respect for their client?/patient?. The hospital said they didnt know who it was till he got there. Then again, they are possibly lying too
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It was gutter journalism of the highest order last night. Without actually saying it they implied a helluva lot without one shred of evidence :banghead :banghead
From Barrett's live cross outside Epworth , where he carried on and threw in that we mustn't forget Ben's history so we really don't know what he has taken
TO Hutchy's "he's a drug addict, always will be" rant in repsonse to Dermie's he's a "reformed drug addict" comment to which Caro chipped in "I think we should say "re-formed" drug addict"
To Caro's comments about his drinking this time (again no proof) and then bringing up her story from earlier inthe year about his drinking... we know the one that Benny Gale flatly denied
The only one who made any semsblence of sense was Grant Thomas who simply said he's a sick boy and it isn't a footy issue now, it's medical on e and it should be left at that
And then Hutchy finsihes by saying "we are all just concerned about Ben's health"
Please give me a break you hypocrite :banghead :banghead
It was pathetic, it was disgraceful it was gutter journalism again :banghead :banghead :banghead
But at the end of the day we shouldn't have expected anything more should we ???
I have to admit, I can usually take what those maggots Hutchy & Barrett report with a grain of salt, but their coverage of Ben's story on Monday made my blood boil. I hope one of those ambulances they chase run them over soon.
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Unless in this case 2JD the leak is at the hospital itself. Reporters from many facets of journalism would have sources at major hospitals for these type of 'scoops' and a call to say Ben Cousins is on his way in would be worthy of passing on. It wouldn't have taken Barrett more than 5 minutes to get from the city to Epworth with that type of news.
Wouldn't the journo's have scanners as well, picking up the radio of police, ambos and firefighters?
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
thats cause Hutchy address is the same as Ben Cousins
example Bens address would be 327 Bambra rd & Hutchy is 327B Bambra rd ( B = bin ) ;D
so he must know who lives inside the house cause Hutchy lives & reports from his bin next to the Gutter = Tip-rat :lol
oh BTW ambo's donot give out a patients name over airwaves. police go to mobile phones because of people like Hutchy ;D
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
thats cause Hutchy address is the same as Ben Cousins
example Bens address would be 327 Bambra rd & Hutchy is 327B Bambra rd ( B = bin ) ;D
pay that :lol
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Just shut up already media!!
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Here's the video of the FC segments from last night .....
About Cousins:
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=305AA0AA-6DCE-47EE-A81F-3FDD6D7B94C8 (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?tab=2&videoid=305AA0AA-6DCE-47EE-A81F-3FDD6D7B94C8)
About Richmond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YCfsYCScr0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YCfsYCScr0)
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
The emergency services up here have digital radio which the general public cannot listen to (encryped I think, I have a mate right into radios and he cant listen in). Would be surprised if it wasn't the same every where.
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
thats cause Hutchy address is the same as Ben Cousins
example Bens address would be 327 Bambra rd & Hutchy is 327B Bambra rd ( B = bin ) ;D
so he must know who lives inside the house cause Hutchy lives & reports from his bin next to the Gutter = Tip-rat :lol
oh BTW ambo's donot give out a patients name over airwaves. police go to mobile phones because of people like Hutchy ;D
Classic! :thumbsup
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
The emergency services up here have digital radio which the general public cannot listen to (encryped I think, I have a mate right into radios and he cant listen in). Would be surprised if it wasn't the same every where.
Tell your mate to go buy a new scanner. ;D
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
The emergency services up here have digital radio which the general public cannot listen to (encryped I think, I have a mate right into radios and he cant listen in). Would be surprised if it wasn't the same every where.
no problem here mate :thumbsup message in the mail AL
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yes they do, guaranteed, its just a radio and it would just be jumping through each emergency freq, if they pick up a transmission they can stop the scan on the active channel and listen in, in fact anyone can, it isn't secure comms. If you hear an address you can pump it in to your little laptop and it can do a quick search against your sleaze database and lo and behold it is a celebrity! Benny's address, unconscious, ...bit later taking patient to Epworth hospital, all to easy. Hutchy would know the address by heart anyway.
thats cause Hutchy address is the same as Ben Cousins
example Bens address would be 327 Bambra rd & Hutchy is 327B Bambra rd ( B = bin ) ;D
so he must know who lives inside the house cause Hutchy lives & reports from his bin next to the Gutter = Tip-rat :lol
oh BTW ambo's donot give out a patients name over airwaves. police go to mobile phones because of people like Hutchy ;D
LMAO. :lol :lol :lol :lol
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The Cousins-bashing duo of Hutchy and Caro are coming up now. I wonder if they can go through a episode without mentioning Cuz given he didn't play. I won't hold my breath.
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A bit of discussion about us tonight....
* Lyon said he watched the game and it was a stunning win.
* All is very well at Punt Rd according to Caro. Young kids standing up and Newman is just a general at defence.
* Lyon said Hardwick has the whole of Punt Rd behind him which is a first in a long time at Punt Rd. Port must be kicking themselves. Thomas said there's solidarity down there which is the oppostie to Port right now.
* Thomas said you could/can see he has a plan all along and despite the criticism early on he has stuck to it. Coach has given the kids the belief in what they are doing and they trust each other. Caro said it's amazing how quickly it has turned around.
* Hutchy actually said he got it wrong with us (shock horror) and thought we'd struggle all year.
* Lyon showed a passage in defence where 5 of our young players (Astbury, Webberley, Connors IIRC) worked the ball out of deep in defence under pressure while maintaining possession. Lyon said that's very impressive for young players to be so composed and in control under pressure.
* We have three quarterbacks now at Half-Back - Deledio, Newman and Connors.
* Caro said Newman is such a great leader.
* Freo will rue that loss and the missed chances in front of goal in the last quarter (Hill and Sandilands)
* Caro said "Richmond were very lucky to win that game" :rolleyes. Mentioned the interchange rule.
* Hutchy asked if Cousins will come in. Lyon said Webberley did well as Cousins' replacement and maybe Hardwick should send a message by playing Cuz in the VFL for a week. Caro said Hardwick said Cuz will come in. Thomas said given Richmond are not going to make finals then with 7 games to go play a kid instead. Hutchy said he doesn't hate Cousins he just believes Cousins playing takes a game off a kid like Webberley.
* Thomas said Hardwick is very consistent with his message win, lose or draw whereas Knights pumps up wins slightly and downplays losses a touch to please supporters so there's not a consistent message and players pick up on that.
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* Caro said "Richmond were very lucky to win that game" :rolleyes. Mentioned the interchange rule.
8 goals to 3 after half-time. Yep very lucky to win eh Caro ::)
Hutchy couldn't help himself having to have another go at Cousins :sleep.
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* Caro said "Richmond were very lucky to win that game" :rolleyes. Mentioned the interchange rule.
8 goals to 3 after half-time. Yep very lucky to win eh Caro ::)
Hutchy couldn't help himself having to have another go at Cousins :sleep.
Disagree a little MT...As well as we played in the second half,Diabolical kicking for goal cost Freo the game.
The wheel really has turned....Im so used to seeing teams kick goals out of their a@#$ against us-Now they are missing from 25 m out.
As for last nights show...OMG-The media absolutely love us.After watching the first 10 min of footy classified I thought I was watching a new show entitled "Everybody loves Richmond".
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Disagree a little MT...As well as we played in the second half,Diabolical kicking for goal cost Freo the game.
Disagree Mat. They missed 2 shots they should have got but there was only 1 scoring shot the difference between the 2 teams. They are a top 4 side that was 11 points up at half time and were outscored 3-6 to 8-6 in the last half - 58 inside 50's to 51. The free and 50mt for the interchange might seem harsh but at least it was adjudicated correctly - King could consider himself damn stiff giving away his 50mt penalty and goal by retaliating - especially given the crackdown on the instigators in the light of Thompson and Baker. They got an absolute armchair ride off the umpires including their first 2 goals of the game - both of them incorrect decisions - 21 free kicks to our 13 in a game we were more committed, more often first to the ball, had more possession. They are missing 5 players that I would consider influential from their team - Broughton (8 games), Mayne (11 games), McPharlin (8 games), Barlow (14 games), Tarrant (12 games). We were missing Cousins, Foley and had 2 players out before half time and one severely hampered just after, and they have managed to win plenty of games without some of the above players this season - balances out their missing players a fair bit.
As much as I agree with your comments about the current RFC 'love-in' from the media, they have not yet given us credit for any win since the Port game - every single game has been lost by the opposition, not won by us. Personally I'm happy to keep it that way as it will help keep young heads in check from the inevitable poor game that is due soon but credit where credit's due - we have deserved every single win, just like we deserved the Hawthorn game and lost. No-one mentions that one in talking about Hawthorn's current great run of wins.
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Cousins will play.
Jackson is out for a couple, Nason could be in doubt due to his eye, there are spots there for Cuz.
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Disagree a little MT...As well as we played in the second half,Diabolical kicking for goal cost Freo the game.
Disagree Mat. They missed 2 shots they should have got but there was only 1 scoring shot the difference between the 2 teams. They are a top 4 side that was 11 points up at half time and were outscored 3-6 to 8-6 in the last half - 58 inside 50's to 51. The free and 50mt for the interchange might seem harsh but at least it was adjudicated correctly - King could consider himself damn stiff giving away his 50mt penalty and goal by retaliating - especially given the crackdown on the instigators in the light of Thompson and Baker. They got an absolute armchair ride off the umpires including their first 2 goals of the game - both of them incorrect decisions - 21 free kicks to our 13 in a game we were more committed, more often first to the ball, had more possession. They are missing 5 players that I would consider influential from their team - Broughton (8 games), Mayne (11 games), McPharlin (8 games), Barlow (14 games), Tarrant (12 games). We were missing Cousins, Foley and had 2 players out before half time and one severely hampered just after, and they have managed to win plenty of games without some of the above players this season - balances out their missing players a fair bit.
As much as I agree with your comments about the current RFC 'love-in' from the media, they have not yet given us credit for any win since the Port game - every single game has been lost by the opposition, not won by us. Personally I'm happy to keep it that way as it will help keep young heads in check from the inevitable poor game that is due soon but credit where credit's due - we have deserved every single win, just like we deserved the Hawthorn game and lost. No-one mentions that one in talking about Hawthorn's current great run of wins.
It hard to argue with you Smokey when you bring such well informed stats to the table.I concede. :thumbsup :gotigers
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anyone know the stats from the game on goals from free kicks?? From memory, weren't Freo's first 3 goals from free kicks? and dubious ones too. I know smokey said first two so maybe it was the first 3 out of 4 that were from free kicks?
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anyone know the stats from the game on goals from free kicks?? From memory, weren't Freo's first 3 goals from free kicks? and dubious ones too. I know smokey said first two so maybe it was the first 3 out of 4 that were from free kicks?
I thought it was 4 goals but was overall the worst umpiring for the year.
We were also missing Tambling and McGuane so injuries were about even going into the game and Jake King was on 1 leg with a severe corky so really only had 18 fit players in the 2nd half.
The fight of the side and the turn around reminds me of 1994.
The win was incredible!!!
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anyone know the stats from the game on goals from free kicks?? From memory, weren't Freo's first 3 goals from free kicks? and dubious ones too. I know smokey said first two so maybe it was the first 3 out of 4 that were from free kicks?
I thought it was 4 goals but was overall the worst umpiring for the year.
We were also missing Tambling and McGuane so injuries were about even going into the game and Jake King was on 1 leg with a severe corky so really only had 18 fit players in the 2nd half.
Their 3rd goal was a result of the 50 for Jacko hitting Ballantyne, and the 4th was on the end of a chain of handballs and dribbled kick from a ball up after Kingy got his neck ripped off in a tackle at chb but wasn't paid. So definitely 3 of the first 4 from incorrect decisions. And I won't mention the free not paid to us after Duffield got tackled by 3 different players in our goal square 5 minutes before quarter time.
I didn't include Tambling and McGuane in my list of injuries just like I didn't include Headland and Grover. To me they are all more squad players that rarely impact a game heavily - I only tried to include the more influential players in the list of those missing.
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What about the time where the Freo player had AGES of time, we tackled him, play on. Nason gets the ball for half a second, is tackled, HTB.
Utter bull.
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They had a bunch of gift goals from frees which cost me tufts of my hair so now I look like crusty the clown
We were denied free kicks one in front of the bloody goals from a bloke tackled 4 times ....talk about prior opportunity..play on ..(oh they scored a goal from that too, so 2 goal turnaround).
We also missed some soda's, Nahas missed a couple of point blanks ....
SO anyone who thinks we were lucky coz they missed a few goals... I counter that they were lucky we didn't beat them by more...
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Disagree Mat. They missed 2 shots they should have got but there was only 1 scoring shot the difference between the 2 teams. They are a top 4 side that was 11 points up at half time and were outscored 3-6 to 8-6 in the last half - 58 inside 50's to 51. The free and 50mt for the interchange might seem harsh but at least it was adjudicated correctly - King could consider himself damn stiff giving away his 50mt penalty and goal by retaliating - especially given the crackdown on the instigators in the light of Thompson and Baker. They got an absolute armchair ride off the umpires including their first 2 goals of the game - both of them incorrect decisions - 21 free kicks to our 13 in a game we were more committed, more often first to the ball, had more possession. They are missing 5 players that I would consider influential from their team - Broughton (8 games), Mayne (11 games), McPharlin (8 games), Barlow (14 games), Tarrant (12 games). We were missing Cousins, Foley and had 2 players out before half time and one severely hampered just after, and they have managed to win plenty of games without some of the above players this season - balances out their missing players a fair bit.
As much as I agree with your comments about the current RFC 'love-in' from the media, they have not yet given us credit for any win since the Port game - every single game has been lost by the opposition, not won by us. Personally I'm happy to keep it that way as it will help keep young heads in check from the inevitable poor game that is due soon but credit where credit's due - we have deserved every single win, just like we deserved the Hawthorn game and lost. No-one mentions that one in talking about Hawthorn's current great run of wins.
Great post Smokey...people forget the frees that went Freo's way early...
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the umpiring was bullsh...t
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the umpiring was bullsh...t
good cut through 3R!
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The 4 amigos are on now. More 'Essendon in turmoil' talk :rollin
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Just a couple of comments on us tonight:
Lyon and Thomas said Cotch copped his fair whack getting 3-4 weeks as he tucked himself in before colliding into Wright. Thomas said he should have had a hand up to spoil. They've got a poll running on their ninemsn website asking whether Cotch has been treated harshly.
Caro said Brendan Gale should resign from the board of AFL Tasmania as he has "a clear conflict of interest". She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
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Just a couple of comments on us tonight:
Lyon and Thomas said Cotch copped his fair whack getting 3-4 weeks.
Caro said Brendan Gale should resign from the board of AFL Tasmania as he has "a clear conflict of interest". She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
Just move North to Tassie. Change the blue stripes to green. Tasmanian Kangaroos. Job done.
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Caro said Brendan Gale should resign from the board of AFL Tasmania as he has "a clear conflict of interest". She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
Why should Gale resign if North is the club you want down there Caro hence no conflict of interest? ???
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it wouldnt be workable if North did play down there, thus Ben should step aside. Good Call Caro ;)
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Just a couple of comments on us tonight:
Lyon and Thomas said Cotch copped his fair whack getting 3-4 weeks as he tucked himself in before colliding into Wright. Thomas said he should have had a hand up to spoil. They've got a poll running on their ninemsn website asking whether Cotch has been treated harshly.
Caro said Brendan Gale should resign from the board of AFL Tasmania as he has "a clear conflict of interest". She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
caroline should shut the eff up
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Why should Gale resign if North is the club you want down there Caro hence no conflict of interest? ???
Hate to say it but good call by Caro
Benny cannot sit on the AFL Tassie board and be discussing with AFL Tassie the possibility of the AFL Club he works for playing games there -it reeks of favouratism.
He also has a conflict even if it isn't the club he works for in discussion, the fact that he works for a Club means he can't be involved in any way because of the confidential details of the discussion with one his major competitiors.
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Has Gale had disussions with AFL Tasmania about Richmond playing games there?
I've only seen and heard Cricket Tasmania and the Tasmanian government mentioned in reports about discussions.
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She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
I don't think we're planning on playing Collingwood, Carlton or Essendon in Tassie.
It'd be GWS, the Gold Coast, Kangaroos and Port Adelaide.
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who gives a eff as long as Gale gets the deal done, On the board off it on it, who cares. Why do you guys care?
Caro just wants to stop us having anything descent happen to our club. Stuff her and North well they are the joke of the AFL why should we do anything that will help them in anyway. Their failure has been brought about by only one person, themselves.
Edited for avoiding the swear filter :banghead
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Has Gale had disussions with AFL Tasmania about Richmond playing games there?
I've only seen and heard Cricket Tasmania and the Tasmanian government mentioned in reports about discussions.
Does it really matter Fish?
There is a or will be a conflict, whether it be now or in the future if the RFC continues looking at playing games in Tassie
Although you would think that the senior management of AFL Tassie would have been involved in some of the discussions even in the prelim stage
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I'm not privy to the discussions but it looks to me to be doing groundwork with the custodians of Bellerive and the people who would provide the money for the stadium upgrade required/money for moving home games.
Does the AFL Tasmania board have to approve an AFL club playing at Bellerive?
If yes, I think that would be a decision Gale would have to remove himself from being part of without having to step down from the board.
I'm not seeing evidence that there is a conflict of interest right now. I can see that there could be one down the track, depending on how far the possibility of Richmond playing games at Bellerive goes. I'd think that would be the time for something to be done about it, not now as a just in case.
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Does the AFL Tasmania board have to approve an AFL club playing at Bellerive?
If yes, I think that would be a decision Gale would have to remove himself from being part of without having to step down from the board.
I think they would have to OK it and that would be the AFL Tassie board doing it.
I'm not seeing evidence that there is a conflict of interest right now. I can see that there could be one down the track, depending on how far the possibility of Richmond playing games at Bellerive goes. I'd think that would be the time for something to be done about it, not now as a just in case.
In a way at the moment it's all about perception to large degree
My personal view is that even at this early stage there is a perceived conflict and at the very least Benny needs to say "I've removed myself from any discussion that the board has had about the RFC".
And if it gets to next the stage of the RFC actually getting close to getting a deal done then he must stand down form the board. Excusing himself wouldn't cut it in my mind; from a business ethics standpoint it is a massive conflict
The other way at looking at it is because there is a perception of there being a conflict then perhaps it is in the best interest of the RFC for Benny to stand down so to ensure the likes of the Norf Melbs of this world and all the media hypocites can't say that our club has been favoured in any way
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The other way at looking at it is because there is a perception of there being a conflict then perhaps it is in the best interest of the RFC for Benny to stand down so to ensure the likes of the Norf Melbs of this world and all the media hypocites can't say that our club has been favoured in any way
While your points are valid and sound WP, I have to say at this point I couldn't give a flying kazoo about being 'right' in the eyes of other clubs or the AFL. We have been royally screwed recently in a number of areas (home games at Etihad, games moved from the MCG, MRP and tribunal, Polak on rookie list, umpiring, 'review' into our current situation, etc etc) and as far as I'm concerned they can all get stuffed - it's every man and every club for himself, and long live the world hating Richmond. It will make winning that next cup all the sweeter as the whole stinking lot of them get our premiership cup jammed up their collective rings!
:gotigers
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My thoughts as well about this being perception.
Stuff the North Melbourne's of this world, though. Stuff the media as well, they just make stuff up to suit their current agenda anyway.
Brendon Gale doesn't strike me as the type who would act based on perception.
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Just a couple of comments on us tonight:
Lyon and Thomas said Cotch copped his fair whack getting 3-4 weeks.
Caro said Brendan Gale should resign from the board of AFL Tasmania as he has "a clear conflict of interest". She also said that North should play in Hobart instead of Richmond as we get big crowds here anyway.
Just move North to Tassie. Change the blue stripes to green. Tasmanian Kangaroos. Job done.
i second that!
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Why anyone gives Norf any serious consideration is beyond me. They are the biggest gypsies in Australian Sport! stuff Em!
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The other way at looking at it is because there is a perception of there being a conflict then perhaps it is in the best interest of the RFC for Benny to stand down so to ensure the likes of the Norf Melbs of this world and all the media hypocites can't say that our club has been favoured in any way
While your points are valid and sound WP, I have to say at this point I couldn't give a flying kazoo about being 'right' in the eyes of other clubs or the AFL. We have been royally screwed recently in a number of areas (home games at Etihad, games moved from the MCG, MRP and tribunal, Polak on rookie list, umpiring, 'review' into our current situation, etc etc) and as far as I'm concerned they can all get stuffed - it's every man and every club for himself, and long live the world hating Richmond. It will make winning that next cup all the sweeter as the whole stinking lot of them get our premiership cup jammed up their collective rings!
:gotigers
you probably wont like this but i agree with 100% of this smart post.
Being nice to other clubs gets you no where. look what the Blues did to us over the Mathieson/Pokies Venues. Who cares if they think we got a sweet deal. I coudnt get a flying stuff about any other club but ours
North can go get stuffed and take the other 15 clubs with them
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We only got a brief mention on tonight's show:
Lyon questioned why we went with a zone defence against Collingwood rather than one-on-one when we clearly aren't ready to pull it off. He then showed vision with 6 Collingwood players inside 50 forward of the play all on their own running towards goal. Lyon singled out Connors who was on Macaffer and after Macaffer kicked his 3rd goal Connors walked well away from him rather than manning him up. Thomas said it takes a long time to master team defence and manning space rather than playing man-on-man.
Last week's FC question asked if Cotch was treated harshly by the MRP and tribunal? 64% said yes.
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They talked about Lids, Newy and of course Cousins' future tonight....
Lyon praised Deledio. He's found his place on the HBF and is in All-Australian contention. He's got a bit of a bum wrap over the past couple of years when he's been playing at a high level in a poor side. Winning two B&Fs shows his quality and now he's on his way to a 3rd straight B&F.
Caro said the B&F is a two horse race with Newman having his best season by far and was clearly b.o.g. on Sunday in her opinion. Last 4 weeks will decide the Richmond B&F.
If Lids wins the B&F he'll be only the 9th footballer in VFL/AFL history to win three B&Fs before his 23rd birthday. Joins names such as Reynolds, Skilton, Bunton, Fothergill, Murray, Matthews, Geoff Raines, Glenn Jakovich
Then the discussion turned to Cousins. Lyon asked if Ben should go on next year as there's a push in some quarters for him to do so. His form on the weekend was good without being great. They showed vision of Cuz walking along the boundary with Martin educating him. This teaching is of the young Tigers is what the RFC claims Cousins offers Richmond.
Thomas said he would like to hope Cousins' legacy onfield is now done in terms of showing the young Tiger players the work-ethic, professionalism, preparation and onfield leadership required at AFL level. Time for him to move on and let a younger player take his place next year.
All were in agreement Ben should finish his career on a high (no pun intended) in 4 weeks time. Won't be the first player to go out on a high which is a great thing for him.
Good call/bad call questions were:
"Is Dustin Martin better than Joel Selwood?"
Lyon said no as Selwood went all the way to a GF and premiership. Martin is a very good player though [Ed. well der Garry!].
Hutchy asked "Jack Riewoldt can rest easy as Barry Hall does not want to win the Coleman Medal?"
Thomas said bad call. Barry is hungry for more goals.
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Here's youtube vision of the segment about Richmond, Lids, Newy and Cuz for those that missed last night's show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV-RJp2bfAo
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"Is Dustin Martin better than Joel Selwood?"
Lyon said no as Selwood went all the way to a GF and premiership. Martin is a very good player though [Ed. well der Garry!].
Selwood was in a much better side though Garry??! :wallywink
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making a judgment about how good a player is, based on whether he plays in a GF or not, is plain stupid.
Bob Skilton?
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gaddy lyon is a class 1 tool
martin would have won the brownlow if he debuted in that geelong team
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martin can do everything selwood can
but martin is faster
martib kicks longer
martin has a better left foot
and of course the dont argue fend off
martin>>>>>>>>selwood
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martin can do everything selwood can
but martin is faster
martib kicks longer
martin has a better left foot
and of course the dont argue fend off
martin>>>>>>>>selwood
Yep, also Martin does not collapse into tackles to try and milk head high frees.
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concerned about the "dont argue fend off", the martians will be onto
it i think in the not too distant future. i will watch with interest
personally the kid does it so well it would be a shame to see it outlawed.
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concerned about the "dont argue fend off", the martians will be onto
it i think in the not too distant future. i will watch with interest
personally the kid does it so well it would be a shame to see it outlawed.
Agree 3RD, I've been a bit uneasy about it myself in recent weeks. Not in the action of the fend or the player fending, but in the capacity of the incompetent M & M's (who get overpaid many $$s to butcher the game each week) to adjudicate it fairly. Above the shoulders is illegal, on or below is not. Would seem such a simple concept to the average human but not to those supernatural freaks. Just ask Jake King. :banghead
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concerned about the "dont argue fend off", the martians will be onto
it i think in the not too distant future. i will watch with interest
personally the kid does it so well it would be a shame to see it outlawed.
Agree 3RD, I've been a bit uneasy about it myself in recent weeks. Not in the action of the fend or the player fending, but in the capacity of the incompetent M & M's (who get overpaid many $$s to butcher the game each week) to adjudicate it fairly. Above the shoulders is illegal, on or below is not. Would seem such a simple concept to the average human but not to those supernatural freaks. Just ask Jake King. :banghead
Buddy, Ablett and Swan also use the fend off. If Dusty starts to cop it from the umps then the umps will need to target all the stars of the game as well. Seriously as long as it's not high it's legal. One thing the League might be looking at more is bumping and blocking the man on the mark. The Pies are doing it regularly this year.
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One thing the League might be looking at more is bumping and blocking the man on the mark. The Pies are doing it regularly this year.
I noticed one of our players were trying to do it in the last quarter on the weekend. Deledio had nowhere to go and some one was directing him to come around towards the boundary and he'd shepard for him.
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the fend off is not against the rules, in the face or above the shoulders yes
they cannot make it a rule that one cannot fend off
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It seems such an important issue to most journos that Ben CANNOT play in 2011.
Why is it so important ?
Aren't they pathetic
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It seems such an important issue to most journos that Ben CANNOT play in 2011.
Why is it so important ?
Aren't they pathetic
I want Cuz to play on purely to annoy Caro
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It seems such an important issue to most journos that Ben CANNOT play in 2011.
Why is it so important ?
Aren't they pathetic
Yes Brackets, yes they are.
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Hutchy must be happy Cuz is retiring ::).
Thanks to Bock, Cuz isn't their leading story.
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Geez they were scraping the bottom of the barrel tonight for a Richmond good call/bad call question ::).
"Calls for Damien Hardwick to be named coach of the year were premature, Hutchy?"
"The race for the Coleman Medal has become a fizzer this year, Thomo?"
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You've got to love how Hutchy always has to add in some dirt about someone when talks about them. Lyon talks about Hannebery being one of the favs for the rising star and Hutchy has to throw in "not a bad turnaround in life for an egg thrower" referring to Hannebery getting in trouble when he was still at school. Of course Cuz was "the first six months is going to test him out" (about not returning to old ways).
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Well that comment by hutchy about hannebery confirms that he is just a mud raking scab. What a low down underhand cheap shot that is.
Him and caro are so alike - like two turds in a bowl
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Hutchy at it again with the smartalec one-liners when discussing the Wenn-Connors incident:- "They could have got Cousins to come over and sort it out like last time" ::)
Hutchy on Cuz:
"They said Cousins' scan showed no damage which is probably creative spin and he's really done his hammy. He'll play even though he probably shouldn't is what you gather from that."
Caro said Richmond didn't have a real problem with what Wenn did as people make mistakes and they are happy with the apology.
Thomas loves Jack Riewoldt - "Not as athletic as Nick but a see ball, get ball player who has great hands. He'll dominate the competition for the next decade".
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On Cousins, Thomas said he'd likely play through some degree of pain to achieve a fairytale ending. At that point, Caro butted in saying you could hardly call Cousins' story a fairytale. Thomas defended him by saying that the fact that he'd emerged on the other side after all he'd been through WAS a fairytale. Good on Thomas for sticking up for Ben in the face of these two jackals, with their neverending personal agendas.
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Well that comment by hutchy about hannebery confirms that he is just a mud raking scab. What a low down underhand cheap shot that is.
Him and caro are so alike - like two turds in a bowl
stuff it is refreshing to be somewhere people can speak their mind lol
Damn straight, not that I check what the turds look like in the bowl or take photos for my avatars at other boring sites and put little photoshop faces on them or anything like that...hmmm GERKIN! Tell Black we got another Caroline Wilson lookalike STAT!
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Are you having a bad day Owl? Do you need a group hug?
:cuddles
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Nah smokey, Owl is just upset he used all his broadband download watching this clip of Caro from footy classified:
http://theuglydance.com/?v=fwsygvekcb
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Im having a great day smokey how bout you? Batteries still juiced up on your little alt bike seat ? lol
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Back to the topic ppl!
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Im having a great day smokey how bout you? Batteries still juiced up on your little alt bike seat ? lol
Nah, I'd fall straight off a bike seat if I tried to get on one at my age!! :P
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http://theuglydance.com/?v=fwsygvekcb
Thats a funny clip. And you could just picture her doing that too!! :lol
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Cracked my arse up when I saw it, gee I hope she don't sue the kid who glued her head on bahahaha.
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4 amigos on now.
Hutchy saying ex-Tiger/Blue/Cat/Bomber Justin Murphy who is currently playing/assistant coach at Heidelberg has been another one charged relating to drugs (amphetamines).
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The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was "Does the Terry Wallace/David King spat show the Tigers have moved on?"
Hutchy said Richmond have got a number of decisions wrong in the past but with Ben Cousins they got it 100 out of 100 right.
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The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was "Does the Terry Wallace/David King spat show the Tigers have moved on?"
I would suggest that the fact they are both EX coaches says yes. :wallywink
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watching this stupid show tonight. Got to see if Caro going to blurt it out ;D l missed the start ;D
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l cant watch this crap show :banghead
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what was with them dribbling on about Dale Thomas being unlucky not to be in the team let alone how he should of been in the squad. The squad maybe but his no where near getting into the team this season i personally didnt think.
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watching this stupid show tonight. Got to see if Caro going to blurt it out ;D l missed the start ;D
Oh no, another rubbish jackstar FACT that goes down faster than his mum
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watching this stupid show tonight. Got to see if Caro going to blurt it out ;D l missed the start ;D
Oh no, another rubbish jackstar FACT that goes down faster than his mum
you off your drugs again Imfamy, Jackstar & Myself dont get info from the same sources. So l dont know what your craping on about FACT rubbish whateva.
If you dont like our posts then dont read them cause most of your posts are nothing but poo telling us we are wrong when we are on the money.
l beleive Jackstar if he has anything to tell me before some like you who is always rubbishing us when weeks down the track its correct because you need the media to tell you secondhand news
so how about letting go of it & stop bagging people who give you some info, its a bit different to you telling everyone you own that Mercedes when in fact you lease it. your bank manager loves you ;D
Now l aint said nothing about anything yet, but was waiting to see if Caro had anything interesting to say last night, cause if she did & said it without proof them l know a manager who would fry her ;)
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so how about letting go of it & stop bagging people who give you some info, its a bit different to you telling everyone you own that Mercedes when in fact you lease it. your bank manager loves you ;D
I love this insult :lol
For what it's worth, I use my car for work, therefore it is a tax deduction and the car lease for tax minimisation.
I could have bought it outright if I wanted to as it was a present to myself after a property deal but preferred to invest the money instead.
Also as for telling everyone, I've only mentioned I bought the car once after you accused me of being a doll bludger. Now you bring up constantly as some sort of bizarre insult. If that's the best you've got then I reckon I'm doing alright. So for some reason you keep trying to insult my financial status, either I'm a doll bludger, or a *shock horror* car leaser.
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I ride a Triumph Bonneville. FACT!
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I used to drive a 75 renault....do my footballing opinions still carry weight?
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not much Hooter you soap dodging surrender monkey :lol
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I'm a doll bludger
A blow up doll ? ;D
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I'm a doll bludger
A blow up doll ? ;D
I was thinking it would be at least a three months sentence...
Maybe WAT was a doll bludger as well.
:lol
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I'm a doll bludger
A blow up doll ? ;D
:lol :lol :lol Whoops
Haha, see I don't even know how to spell "dole"
Although I imagine many of those on it don't know how either
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The 4 muppets are on now (10pm) for their final show for the year
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I ride a Triumph Bonneville. FACT!
Very nice Owl.
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I'm a doll bludger
A blow up doll ? ;D
I was thinking it would be at least a three months sentence...
Maybe WAT was a doll bludger as well.
:lol
If I could only fit one in my bag 65... :rollin, it would be worn out by about the 6th week...
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The 4 amigos have been forced back for one more show tonight. On now.
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Footy Classified returns tonight at 10.30pm. Caro may give her spin on the FTF gala night.
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was she there ???
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was she there ???
I think she was there.
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Footy Classified returns tonight at 10.30pm. Caro may give her spin on the FTF gala night.
Of course the can of sardines will. I expect her to say it was a great night but.........
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Caro said on 3aw before the night that she was going.
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was she there ???
I think she was there.
Scouring the huge waste disposal unit outside the building site at Punt Rd with Hutchy fighting over an orange peel.
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Oh man, don't get me started.
What are the odds Caro took home half the celebratory cake to use the icing as the next days make up?
(http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/too_much_makeup.jpg)
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JEE-ZUZ, anyone seen the foundation work on Caro tonight?
Talk about homer having his makeup gun set to 'whore'
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RBIifNgtj_k/S5cnud93JYI/AAAAAAAABG4/iJSjTev5zlA/s400/homers-makeup-gun.jpg)
And would it kill her to condition her scalp merkin once a year?
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JEE-ZUZ, anyone seen the foundation work on Caro tonight?
Talk about homer having his makeup gun set to 'whore'
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RBIifNgtj_k/S5cnud93JYI/AAAAAAAABG4/iJSjTev5zlA/s400/homers-makeup-gun.jpg)
And would it kill her to condition her scalp merkin once a year?
:lol :rollin :lol
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Nothing has changed I see. Hutchy and Caro b**ching about things they got no idea about (addictions). At least Grant Thomas makes some good point.
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hahaha ad's just cut Caro off from having her whinge about Eddie lol.
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No mention of our Fighting Tiger Fund :scream
The only item on Richmond tonight was a good call/bad call about us not deserving the season opener ::) :sleep.
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A couple of things about Richmond tonight ....
In their "power analyser" segment Lyon questioned why we didn't lock down on Judd in the last quarter as you should target the opposition's most dangerous player to prevent a comeback. They then showed Judd's goal at the start of the last quarter where Gibbs had the ball on the wing and Judd was nearby with Gus in front of him. The ball is passed to Betts on the lead and Gus and Lids both in front of Judd go to the mark leaving Judd to run through. Lyon was critical of Lids for not eyeing off Judd and not working hard enough in chasing. By the time Lids wakes up to what is happening it's too late and Judd ends up with the footy with acres in front of him and goals. Lyon added it may have been a sign of the Tigers tiring whereas Judd is an animal who senses weakness in the opposition and exploits it. Thomas said it's mental toughness on Judd's behalf (and subsequently we and Lids lack it).
In good call/bad call, the Richmond question this week was "Is Damien Hardwick too honest for his own good?". Thomas said "bad call" as Richmond has had bad cultural issues for years and Dimma's honestly is and will be good for Richmond on that front.
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The obligatory good call/bad call question about Richmond:
"Should the game have been stopped when Jack Riewoldt was ko-ed and taken off?"
Lyon said it shouldn't have as the ball wasn't near Jack and it shouldn't have been stopped while Jack was been taken off the ground with help from the Richmond trainers. The only time the game should be stopped is when the stretcher comes out or the play is in the near vacinity of the injured player.
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The obligatory good call/bad call question about Richmond:
"Should the game have been stopped when Jack Riewoldt was ko-ed and taken off?"
Lyon said it shouldn't have as the ball wasn't near Jack and it shouldn't have been stopped while Jack was been taken off the ground with help from the Richmond trainers. The only time the game should be stopped is when the stretcher comes out or the play is in the near vacinity of the injured player.
if Jack hadn't concussed himself when his head hit the ground he would've hung onto the ball and it would've been paid a mark. Dumb call Garry! :yep
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if Jack hadn't concussed himself when his head hit the ground he would've hung onto the ball and it would've been paid a mark. Dumb call Garry! :yep
should have been paid, he controlled it all the way down, rubbish umpiring ;D
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if Jack hadn't concussed himself when his head hit the ground he would've hung onto the ball and it would've been paid a mark. Dumb call Garry! :yep
should have been paid, he controlled it all the way down, rubbish umpiring ;D
Cost us the game that mark not being paid :whistle
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if Jack hadn't concussed himself when his head hit the ground he would've hung onto the ball and it would've been paid a mark. Dumb call Garry! :yep
should have been paid, he controlled it all the way down, rubbish umpiring ;D
i wholeheartedly agree with that :thumbsup
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Did they ask the week before why the game stopped when Waite was down?
The game stopped only when 3 carlton players went over to see if he was ok.
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Terrible terrible show, the only one who has a genuine idea on that show and expresses it most times without hesitation is Grant Thomas. All the other three do is talk about things they think they have an idea about.
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Terrible terrible show
Agree. Bottom of a very deep footy media barrel.
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Caro likening Jack's behaviour to Fev's. lol shes an idoit there completely different.
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as usual, a good laugh. the lot of them are that grumpy it's just funny to watch them carry on about everything.
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In relation to the rubbish on Eddie's morning show on tripple M about Brett Maloney.
Thomas asked if a caller wanted to say something about a collingwood player would he mention it on his morning radio program or would he verify it first.
:thumbsup good stuff Grant!
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as usual, a good laugh. the lot of them are that grumpy it's just funny to watch them carry on about everything.
I'm watching Risky Business on Foxtel. :thumbsup
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I think I've heard it all now. Tonight them comparing Jack's behaviour to Fevola's ::).
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come on MT you still not watching this rubbish.
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Hutchy beforehand mentioned Jack Riewoldt was one of the issues they were going to talk about tonight. I guess I'll watch anything about Richmond :wallywink.
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TV shows like this disgust me. They try and create crisis at clubs in particular ours because it lifts there ratings for tv and radio and sells papers. Its dishonest television and a disgrace IMHO.
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TV shows like this disgust me. They try and create crisis at clubs in particular ours because it lifts there ratings for tv and radio and sells papers. Its dishonest television and a disgrace IMHO.
l dont watch crap so they selling nothing to me
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Hutchy beforehand mentioned Jack Riewoldt was one of the issues they were going to talk about tonight. I guess I'll watch anything about Richmond :wallywink.
and
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Hutchy beforehand mentioned Jack Riewoldt was one of the issues they were going to talk about tonight. I guess I'll watch anything about Richmond :wallywink.
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and on the show they said it was "obvious" to compare him to Richo (even though both were/are completely different footballers in their playing style ::) ). Caro then adds Jack's on-field behaviour like Fevola or at least Fevola-esque. So now Jack is apparently like a guy with multiple addictions that ruined his footy career and life ::). I agree with Ramps. The media are trying to paint Jack as having some Jeckel and Hyde demeanour. It's utter crap! All Jack had to apologise for was for the "bird" and that could have been done via a statement on the RFC website. Why did Jack need to apologise to his teammates publicly at a press conference when it can be done behind closed doors if need be. There's more important things to worry about with how woeful the whole side played than appeasing the media who are just out to create a story even if it doesn't exist :sleep.
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thats right why do Richmond have to do everything in the public eye
its time RFC to harden up & shut up, play football without giving anyone info >:(
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Turned off at 10.32 m ( one minute into the show) when I seen that Caro was dressed by KMart again. ::)
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Hutchy beforehand mentioned Jack Riewoldt was one of the issues they were going to talk about tonight. I guess I'll watch anything about Richmond :wallywink.
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and on the show they said it was "obvious" to compare him to Richo (even though both were/are completely different footballers in their playing style ::) ). Caro then adds Jack's on-field behaviour like Fevola or at least Fevola-esque. So now Jack is apparently like a guy with multiple addictions that ruined his footy career and life ::). I agree with Ramps. The media are trying to paint Jack as having some Jeckel and Hyde demeanour. It's utter crap! All Jack had to apologise for was for the "bird" and that could have been done via a statement on the RFC website. Why did Jack need to apologise to his teammates publicly at a press conference when it can be done behind closed doors if need be. There's more important things to worry about with how woeful the whole side played than appeasing the media who are just out to create a story even if it doesn't exist :sleep.
Ive had just about enough of this political correctness rubbish. He flipped the bird for goodness sakes - to have a press conference big LOL
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Ive had just about enough of this political correctness rubbish. He flipped the bird for goodness sakes - to have a press conference big LOL
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Fully agree. I cannot abide with the level of political correctness that the AFL has in place to "protect" its brand image. Right-Wing, reactionary rubbish combined with Left-Wing Media Loonies equals Thought Police and media-led conservative propaganda, initiated by the Murdoch press, but followed by everyone else looking for ratings or circulation. And the Australian community has fallen for it.
For goodness sakes, we couldn't beat the Dawks on the field, we can't start a fight anymore, so giving the bird was about the only response we had left. After all, Jack isn't allowed to go kick chasing. Even a couple of overly zealous tackles wouldn't have hurt, but he couldn't catch any of the Dawks.
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Turned off at 10.32 m ( one minute into the show) when I seen that Caro was dressed by KMart again. ::)
Makeup by Sandringham Sandblasting co. and Australian Rendering Company Pty Ltd.
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perhaps Humes concrete could supply her with some shoes?
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" Most of all I've let my family down "
Whaaaat ?
Gotta luv the obligatory press conference these days. Cut and paste and press play
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Turned off at 10.32 m ( one minute into the show) when I seen that Caro was dressed by KMart again. ::)
:rollin :lol
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" Most of all I've let my family down "
Whaaaat ?
Gotta luv the obligatory press conference these days. Cut and paste and press play
Are the club going to apologise for letting Jack down?
What a load of crap.
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Caro reminds me of a washed up pro, turned topless waitress in a truckers stop.
And if you flip her a twenty, she'll let you bang her in the onion ring, bareback.
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can i have the name of this truckers stop Dooks
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Its the Plumsdeep Inn. :thumbsup
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Caro reminds me of a washed up pro, turned topless waitress in a truckers stop.
And if you flip her a twenty, she'll let you bang her in the onion ring, bareback.
You've given this a lot more thought than most. ;D
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no real thought went into it...he's talking from experience :outtahere
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aww gee :lol
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no real thought went into it...he's talking from experience :outtahere
Gud dammit...
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aww gee :lol
who the stuff you think you are? poo the bed mate, that sh it is not on. Btw, sitting here watching Caro porn with my new lap top :shh
how good was Caros arrow? Wow that is unreal. Grant Thomas is brilliant.
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Is that the one with Dipper and the taped together hockey sticks?
and listen guy, stop using gerkisms :-*
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Awww geee you know it :thumbsup my favourite. you should really see this lappy in action, it is a bad boy. Ill be back to my trolling best soon
Ill stop when you apologise for stealing my goat porn guy. do you understand, kid?
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Is that the one with Dipper and the taped together hockey sticks?
I would have guest the one where she meets that nun lady...what was her name again....Was it Sister Fister?
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Sister Fister Crucifix Twister
and lolz at "guest" you spud
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Sister Fister Crucifix Twister
:lol :thumbsup
Who's that in your avatar Gerk ?
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Who's that in your avatar Gerk ?
It's Old Gregg
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Sister Fister Crucifix Twister
:lol :thumbsup
Who's that in your avatar Gerk ?
Old Gregg
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Old Gregg
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Ofiafi said it was vince then changed his post dont get smart with me mate had ennough of your poo gerks.
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Your damn quick there Davey. Yep I knew it was the the Mighty Boosh but I thought it was Vince dressing up. I hadn't seen the Old Gregg episode.
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The mighty Boosh...now thats one stuffed up weird show.
I like it!
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Ya luvin' it ya slags!
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The mighty Boosh...now thats one stuffed up weird show.
I like it!
Was just starting to get into it and its gone >:(
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The 4 amigoes are going to be talking about our game after the break.
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Caro apologising to someone... now there's something you won't see every day, even though it is Eddie.
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Gotta give credit where credit is due. Every time I see Rodney Eade on panel shows he always conducts him self in a very high manner.
Gary looked like he didn't like Caro getting the last question in though.
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The only bits on Richmond tonight were ....
(i) how we were able to breakdown the Collingwood press (zone) in the 3rd quarter. Our quick instinctive movement of the footy spread out the press so where two Pies would normally be 1-2 metres apart and both pressuring the opposition ballcarrier they were instead 5+ metres apart so gaps appeared where free Tigers could position themselves to slice through the press.
(ii) The good call/ball call question on us was whether Brad Miller playing strengthened our forward line? Hutchy said bad call as going with youth should be first choice.
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
The forward line functioned far better as a unit with Miller there, sure he's not the answer long term, if Post comes in for him this week I'll be happy to, as long as we aren't just bombing it in to Jack I don't care.
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
The forward line functioned far better as a unit with Miller there, sure he's not the answer long term, if Post comes in for him this week I'll be happy to, as long as we aren't just bombing it in to Jack I don't care.
here is a first, Infamy agreeing with my thoughts on Brad Miller.
Read earlier posts, he demands respect does Brad and draws a good player eg Maxwell last friday
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
The forward line functioned far better as a unit with Miller there, sure he's not the answer long term, if Post comes in for him this week I'll be happy to, as long as we aren't just bombing it in to Jack I don't care.
here is a first, Infamy agreeing with my thoughts on Brad Miller.
Read earlier posts, he demands respect does Brad and draws a good player eg Maxwell last friday
I've marked it in my diary
And BTW I agree - we certianly looked a lot better with Miller knowing to lead in the opposite direction to Jack. Something I might add Vickery is still very much learning :thumbsup
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
The forward line functioned far better as a unit with Miller there, sure he's not the answer long term, if Post comes in for him this week I'll be happy to, as long as we aren't just bombing it in to Jack I don't care.
here is a first, Infamy agreeing with my thoughts on Brad Miller.
Read earlier posts, he demands respect does Brad and draws a good player eg Maxwell last friday
I've marked it in my diary
And BTW I agree - we certianly looked a lot better with Miller knowing to lead in the opposite direction to Jack. Something I might add Vickery is still very much learning :thumbsup
couldnt agree more, im surprised more hasnt been made of it on these boards. if we can maintain plenty of supply in the coming weeks there will be a heap of goal scoring chances between miller and JR. Miller need only hold up and end until griff or Post are belting the door down, meanwhile assisting Jack no end
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
Hutchy is a gossip columnist that knows nothing about football.
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I don't get this Miller love fest 28 YO averages less than a goal a game, sorry no different than a Kent Kingsley for mine.
As for this rubbish about demanding a key back lolfamo and what's this supposed key backman gunna do if Miller is not in the team, play with his doddle.
Let one of the kids take a key backman and learn the game. We have the facilities to sit down and watch plays, cant be that hard to learn.
Thinking the main problem atm apart from Giff and the learninf process' going on is Mitch Morton is a BIG dissapointment this year, was really expecting hime to stand up. Hope he pulls his head in and realises what he needs to do for the team.
With all that said, disappointingly I think Miller will stay in. You guys watch! Yes he may provide a contest at times but rarely if often wins the contest, we need crumbers front and centre when he is in this position and preferrably not to far outside the 50.
Not the future and stop gap for not much longer hopefully.
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Glad I still don't agree with that twit Hutchy.
The forward line functioned far better as a unit with Miller there, sure he's not the answer long term, if Post comes in for him this week I'll be happy to, as long as we aren't just bombing it in to Jack I don't care.
Miller could almost play all year. Regardless if he kicks 5 goals or 20 goals.
Jack and the team need to learn and play with a proper forward line structure. Griffiths will hopefully take over Miller's spot full time next year. Vickery will play the same role pinch hitting in the ruck and rotating forward.
Even though Miller isn't our future atleast he enables our future structure instead of a heavy reliance on Jack. If we learn to play with 2 KP options + Vickery it will be easier to transition when our future (Griffiths) come sinto the team.
I'm all for Miller playing.
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I don't get this Miller love fest 28 YO averages less than a goal a game, sorry no different than a Kent Kingsley for mine.
As for this rubbish about demanding a key back lolfamo and what's this supposed key backman gunna do if Miller is not in the team, play with his doddle.
Let one of the kids take a key backman and learn the game. We have the facilities to sit down and watch plays, cant be that hard to learn.
Thinking the main problem atm apart from Giff and the learninf process' going on is Mitch Morton is a BIG dissapointment this year, was really expecting hime to stand up. Hope he pulls his head in and realises what he needs to do for the team.
With all that said, disappointingly I think Miller will stay in. You guys watch! Yes he may provide a contest at times but rarely if often wins the contest, we need crumbers front and centre when he is in this position and preferrably not to far outside the 50.
Not the future and stop gap for not much longer hopefully.
It's about structure, look at how well it functioned with Griffiths in the side last year even though he didn't get much of the ball. I don't care who it is, if it's Post, Griffiths, Vickery or Miller, if they are running the right patterns, taking attention away from Jack and also have the midfield use them when they are in space then that IS the best thing for our side long term. If Miller is the only one doing it then he can keep his spot until the kids learn how to with Coburg.
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I dont have a problem with Miller per se. He lead well and they hit him up a couple of times. If he kicked straight he would have bagged 3 goals.
Problem for Miller is he doesnt turn quick enough and when the ball is on the ground - if he doesnt mark it - his ground work is not as strong.
As someone else said, he needs crumbers.
I agree he led away from Jack which is the only thing to do. Keep out of Jack's space and take your defender away from jack who is one of the best one on one.
I would be surprised Miller will be getting games when Big Griff gets back....But at the moment he is serviceable and not really keeping a kid out of the team. If the kids are ready to play, they will get a game ahead of him. Post has only had one good game at Coburg - so you wouldnt imagine he will replace Miller this week. If Post plays another blinder then maybe.
Our problem isnt Miller...it is finding that elusive crumbing fwd who puts enourmous defensive pressure ala rioli....where is that guy?
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We have not had a decent long term crumber since Naish.
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We got beaten by 70 points. If we're bringing in blokes, surely the kid that got best on for the 2nds is worth a look?
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Miller didn't cost us 70 points.
The kid that got BOG did that after we played the skunks...as i said in my earlier post...if Post plays well again this week then promote him.
Kids shouldnt be getting a game just because they are kids...they still need to deserve it.
From all reports Posts intensity was up on the weekend...good for him...do it again to get a game in the seniors son.
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I can understand Post needing to get his intensity up for more than a few weeks to warrant selection.
Wasn't happy about the Miller selection pre season but
a) happy he was finally selected. Thought he possibly should have been selected from Round 1 thus justifying the selection of him.
b) Am confident of this. The comparisons between Miller and Kingsley are hysteria. Kingsley was seen as someone who would kick goals and a long term fix for the club whilst we were in topping up up mode under a regime who were desperate to remain competitive to keep their credibility in tact.
Miller on the other hand and I am sure Hardwick would know this , is merely a bigger body with some experience who will use his weight experience and smarts to assist the forward line temporarily until Griff Post or Vickery show enough to make that position their own for the long term fix.
c) Without getting personal Hutchy has very little clue on footy.
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Miller did cost us 70 points.
The kid that got BOG did that after we played the skunks...as i said in my earlier post...if Post plays well again this week then promote him.
Kids shouldnt be getting a game just because they are kids...they still need to deserve it.
From all reports Posts intensity was up on the weekend...good for him...do it again to get a game in the seniors son.
What the stuff are you on about guy? Who do we bring in then? Some hacker just because Post hasn't been best on two weeks in a row? He was our best player for CBurg, he will surely be considered (not because hes a kid but cuz he was stuffing good the other day)
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I would be surprised Miller will be getting games when Big Griff gets back....But at the moment he is serviceable and not really keeping a kid out of the team. If the kids are ready to play, they will get a game ahead of him. Post has only had one good game at Coburg - so you wouldnt imagine he will replace Miller this week. If Post plays another blinder then maybe.
I don't see Miller holding Griffiths back from getting a game, he may even get pushed aside by Post if he can keep up his form at Coburg
The match committee have had no hesitation in playing kids over older players so far so not sure why Miller would be any different
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What the eff are you on about guy? Who do we bring in then? Some hacker just because Post hasn't been best on two weeks in a row? He was our best player for CBurg, he will surely be considered (not because hes a kid but cuz he was effing good the other day)
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Mate, it is not just me that says make Post earn his spot...read some of the other posts in similar threads...some people on here are saying he needs to put in 3 weeks like last weekends effort to get a gig.
All I am saying is have Post put in again this week at the burgers...then promote him...I dont care if he is bog or not...as long as his intensity is up...and he is presenting himself as wanting to be in the contest...thats all.
This year similar to last is a development year...Miller is not keeping a kid out...when the kids are ready...Miller will make way...if Miller had of kicked 3 goals no one would be saying anything...he didnt so people are on his back...
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But he didn't kick 3 goals and what did he do in the ressies to gain promotion.
Averages less than a goal for his career.
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But he didn't kick 3 goals and what did he do in the ressies to gain promotion.
Averages less than a goal for his career.
I think he kicked 3 goals for coburg against sandi to gain promotion :)
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and what did thursty do besides pull his pud and twist an ankle? post was named bog, a damn sight more than some of our other talls have achieved to "earn" promotion LMAO
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guy :thumbsup
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What the eff are you on about guy? Who do we bring in then? Some hacker just because Post hasn't been best on two weeks in a row? He was our best player for CBurg, he will surely be considered (not because hes a kid but cuz he was effing good the other day)
Mate, it is not just me that says make Post earn his spot...read some of the other posts in similar threads...some people on here are saying he needs to put in 3 weeks like last weekends effort to get a gig.
All I am saying is have Post put in again this week at the burgers...then promote him...I dont care if he is bog or not...as long as his intensity is up...and he is presenting himself as wanting to be in the contest...thats all.
This year similar to last is a development year...Miller is not keeping a kid out...when the kids are ready...Miller will make way...if Miller had of kicked 3 goals no one would be saying anything...he didnt so people are on his back...
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Good call.
Miller is insurance.
That is all.
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and what did thursty do besides pull his pud and twist an ankle? post was named bog, a damn sight more than some of our other talls have achieved to "earn" promotion LMAO
Thursty atm is insurance for McGuane and Rance.
Brought in in extreme emergency.
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needs an extreme makeover and an emergency skills transplant
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The 4 amigos are on. Hutchy said they are going to talk about North being under the hammer so our game should get a mention tonight.
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who dressed Caro tonight ??? Kmart ? ::)
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Typical bandwagon comments. When we win things are looking up.
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who really cares what caro wears and where she buys it
:sleep
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Typical bandwagon comments. When we win things are looking up.
True. It was all praise for us tonight and how we are heading in the right direction with young stars like Dusty and Cotch.
Martin will be up there with Selwood and Pendlebury in a year or two. Thomas loves how Dusty keeps his feet - a sign of excellent balance and strong core strength.
Jack had 13 scoring involvements (so that's almost half of our 27 shots).
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Not sure if we'll get a mention tonight but we usually do. The 4 amigos are on now.
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What club did they say are having a meeting tonight. With the club saying the coach won't be talked about them( 4 amigo's) claiming he will be.
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Was watching BL - will switch over from Fungus now.
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What club did they say are having a meeting tonight. With the club saying the coach won't be talked about them( 4 amigo's) claiming he will be.
Smellbourne
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They just shown the 1st qtr stats of GC and Melb. Melb ended up with worse stats than gold coast. Maybe they was lucky they was only playing west coast not a better team other wise they could be been more hurt on the score board.
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They only had a brief look at our game and it was once again all about Dusty. Thomas loves everything about Dusty - his composure and strength in his hips to maintain his balance, etc. Hutchy said Martin would be leading our B&F.
The good call/bad call question was "Should we stop calling Jake King the 'much maligned Jake King'?". Thomas said no as Kingy would love being called maligned as the more people call him that he plays better.
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What club did they say are having a meeting tonight. With the club saying the coach won't be talked about them( 4 amigo's) claiming he will be.
Smellbourne
When the Prez offers full support of the coach publicly it usually means the coach will be getting the sack within the next month lol
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-have-nowhere-to-hide-says-captain-brad-green/story-e6frf9jf-1226048727427
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Dont forget its on tonight instead of Monday due to footy being on tomorrow night.
I wonder if the band wagon support will keep up seeing how we got another win.
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Dont forget its on tonight instead of Monday due to footy being on tomorrow night.
I wonder if the band wagon support will keep up seeing how we got another win.
Switched back to the movie Trading Places on Foxtel. Could Gary resist not starting the show with Melbourne's huge win today? WGAF.
Don't need footy classified to praise us. Spare me the crocodile tears. :help
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Four servings of champagne journalism coming right up....
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Dont forget its on tonight instead of Monday due to footy being on tomorrow night.
I wonder if the band wagon support will keep up seeing how we got another win.
Switched back to the movie Trading Places on Foxtel. Could Gary resist not starting the show with Melbourne's huge win today? WGAF.
Don't need footy classified to praise us. Spare me the crocodile tears. :help
Haha I missed half of the melb rap up Come Fly With Me had a 15 minute sneak peak ad that ate into the show starting so I missed first 5 minutes. Did that happen to anyone else?
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Four servings of champagne journalism coming right up....
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All positive talk about us tonight.
Thomas said Hardwick has now got us consistently showing defensive pressure on the turnover whereas in the past Richmond teams were selective.
They praised Nahas' game. Thomas was impressed with Robbie's gut running (eg: running 80m before get receiving the ball for his second goal on the run).
Caro said Cotch is all class and mentioned how opposition side's might tag one of Cotch and Martin but then the other hurts them. Thomas liked Dimma's match-up of having Cotch on Pavlich. Pav normally doesn't have to worry about showing a defensive side when in the midfield as he usually has a hard tag on him. Cotch knew when we gained possession he could run off Pav.
Lyon mentioned how Hardwick said at the start of the year we weren't going to rely on Jack Riewoldt as much for our goals and how they in the media thought at the time 'yeah right!'. However Dimma was right and now we have a spread of goalkickers. We had 10 different goalkickers against Freo.
They also praised Vickery and how he is coming along. The good call/bad call question was "does Garry Lyon owe Vickery an apology?". Lyon said he did have doubts on Tyrone in the past if he was ever going to make it and now those doubts have gone.
The viewer poll this week is "Can Richmond make the Final Eight this year?"
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Caro described Cotch as a "beautiful" player ;D
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rumour has it that Caro has signed a deal with Dimmeys to supply her fashion items for the remainder of the year :lol
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rumour has it that Caro has signed a deal with Dimmeys to supply her fashion items for the remainder of the year :lol
Good on dimmeys, must have put up serious cash to lure her from kmart...
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Kmart arent happy either >:(
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tosser
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The viewer poll this week is "Can Richmond make the Final Eight this year?"
67% said we can :o but the vote was taken before the loss to the Dogs.
Hardly anything else on us. All they said was Rance had an off game (showed some vision of him punching the ball through for a point when he could have marked). Caro then made the obvious point that this week and even against Freo last week we leaked too many soft goals and used the same excuse as Dimma did about us having 4 teenagers in defence with Newy trying to hold it together as our only defender who has played more than 30 games.
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All positive Richmond talk tonight.
Praised Browne's game in the ruck and how we've persisted with him into his third year. Hutchy mentioned that nearly all the top ruckmen in the comp. have come off the rookie list - Sandilands, Cox, Mumford and Jamar. Proof ruckmen take time and you need to persist with them.
Thomas said Vickery is coming along nicely now after a year or so ago people questioning him. Hutchy said he's also a good kick for goal and the goals he kicked on Saturday night all came at crucial times for us.
They also praised Rance in defence and showed some highlights of his game.
Caro said one player who is representing this new soul in the team now is Jake King who every year is considered in his last year given one year contracts yet keeps fighting on. Thomas said that goes back to his coach Damien Hardwick who deserves a lot of praise and is coaching well. I think it was Caro who said all the players they spoke about tonight (all four of them) were at one stage or another had their careers questioned even by Richmond supporters but are now playing well. Thomas repeated it's all credit to Hardwick that we're now seeing those quantum leaps in improvement in players you'd expect from a side like Richmond.
Thomas finished off about us by saying the happiest two people right now about Richmond will be Demetriou and Anderson in terms of ticket sales, ratings, etc. The passion and following of Richmond is immense and what amazes him is the support is still so large and strong despite us being down so long. He said because of that there's so much upside with Richmond as a club. Caro mentioned the noise emanating from the Richmond end of the 'G is massive and how Hardwick has publicly said it's our 19th man.
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"The Tiger controversy up next" - Hutchy ::)
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Caro said she is against any club selling games. Hutchy it will possibly cost Richmond 8 points and a finals spot. Caro said make that possibly 12 points - the loss to Port on Saturday night and then missing out on playing Gold Coast twice. Originally we were scheduled to play the Suns at the 'Gabba in round 2 and then in Melbourne later on in the year. That was changed to one game in Cairns when we sold our hold game.
Caro also said both clubs afterwards called the ground and stadium substandard for AFL clubs. Plenty of frantic phone calls to the big wigs who were on the Gold Coast. Time for the AFL to fund an upgrade of TIO stadium.
Hutchy asked Lyon if Port out-smarted us. Garry replied that it looked like Port having played in Darwin before were far better prepared having gone up on there early to train. They showed vision of the Port players wearing gloves and that in those conditions that played as through it was wet weather footy (217 kicks to just 99 handballs) whereas we overpossessed the footy. They showed about 3 instances in the first half where a long kick went over the back and the Port forwards waltzed into goal.
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Again just another example of our players getting ahead of themselves, they just didn't prepare as they should of.
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Caro Wilson on HOF selections this year: Gee it's going to be tough. There are so many to choose from! Glad I'm not on the selection panel anymore.
Grant Thomas - "So are we"
:thumbsup :lol
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Oh dear. On good call bad call they asked if richmond need lake for our defense problem.
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Oh dear. On good call bad call they asked if richmond need lake for our defense problem.
Brian Lake will be 30 by the start of the next season. As Caro said why would a young upcoming side like us want a 30 y.o. ageing full-back and one who is unfit and that doesn't want to be playing ::).
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Oh dear. On good call bad call they asked if richmond need lake for our defense problem.
Brian Lake will be 30 by the start of the next season. As Caro said why would a young upcoming side like us want a 30 y.o. ageing full-back and one who is unfit and that doesn't want to be playing ::).
I liked Caro's point about the womens round over mothers day weekend and raising fund for breast cancer. Gary was quick to shut it down as he wouldn't want Melb to maybe lose there pink night.
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The four amigos are on now.
Thomas said his highlight of the weekend was Damien Hardwick's coaching and Richmond's maturity travelling back by bus from Sydney then going up to Brisbane to win and finish off the game strongly.
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Was Jackstar's lady kitted out in K-Mart gear again?
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Garry Lyon was winding his beloved Demons up using reserve psychology saying no way will Melbourne beat Richmond this week given the Dees' formline after a win this year. When Thomas asked Lyon who would you tip if both Melbourne and Richmond played at their best, Lyon replied straight away Melbourne ::).
The Richmond good call/bad call question was "Is Martin the Judd of the '09 draft?" because both Dusty and Judd were both taken at pick 3 out of the top 3 going into their respective drafts. Hutchy said bad call as Scully and Trengove are good young footballers as well.
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For a club with a small supporter base they certainly have a few voices in the footy media - Lyon, Sheahan, Healy.
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I class Healy as more a Swans voice. He's still very pro-Dees.
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For a club with a small supporter base they certainly have a few voices in the footy media - Lyon, Sheahan, Healy.
Schwarz.
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Garry Lyon was winding his beloved Demons up using reserve psychology saying no way will Melbourne beat Richmond this week given the Dees' formline after a win this year. When Thomas asked Lyon who would you tip if both Melbourne and Richmond played at their best, Lyon replied straight away Melbourne ::).
Yeh that got my back up too. Lame stuff Lyon. The reverse psych rubbish then if both teams play their best footy he emphatically states....MELBOURNE WIN ! We'll see smart ar*e
Oh and Dr. Turf is another Melbourne supporter in the media.
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NO WAY Lyon thinks Richmond will win....Who are you tryin to fool Gazza ? Pathetic really.
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Talk us up only to bring us down in the event of a loss.
Stay quiet Tigers and don't get sucked in. Let your footy do the talking.
stuff the hairy gorilla and his channel 9 cronies.
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Gerard Healy tonight on 3aw:
"Word is the Melbourne midfielders are getting slightly annoyed by the attention the Richmond midfielders are getting this week."
::)
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Yep all the Melbourne skeletons are rattling their bones with their sob stories.
If that is the case then I think Dusty Cotch Axel Lids and co should show them why.
What a stuffing bullskata statement. Scully has been in the news all year.
Gerards been smoking crack from Mike Sheahans golo on the couch.
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it's all the melbourne media goons trying to get them to fire up (because their pocket pinball coach can't) and us to believe our own hype
pathetic
surround them, herd them into the centre of the 'G, and burn their season to death
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it's all the melbourne media goons trying to get them to fire up (because their pocket pinball coach can't) and us to believe our own hype
pathetic
surround them, herd them into the centre of the 'G, and burn their season to death
Just divert their bus to the snow or offer them a season pass on chairlift 3 at Falls Creek. That gets their blood moving. Just smash Jack Watts at the first centre bounce. That will get their players jittery and self preserving themselves from any bruises that may come their way.
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shut down Green and they won't kick a big enough score to stop us
Alby Rance :cheers
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Gerard Healy tonight on 3aw:
"Word is the Melbourne midfielders are getting slightly annoyed by the attention the Richmond midfielders are getting this week."
::)
Gerard and co are getting desperate :lol
Go for the throat Tiges :gotigers
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Gerard Healy tonight on 3aw:
"Word is the Melbourne midfielders are getting slightly annoyed by the attention the Richmond midfielders are getting this week."
::)
Sounds like typical Melbourne.
Proof is in the pudding though.
Cotchin >> Morton
Martin >> Scully and Trengove at the same time
Vickery >> Watts
Riewoldt >> Frawley
;D
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Damian Barrett on the panel tonight instead of Caro.
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Damian Barrett on the panel tonight instead of Caro.
Have to admit it is a better show without Caro.
Barrett lightens it up abit.
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I agree, much better viewing tonight which given Rat Boy is a tool, shows what level Caro is at.
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The only thing about Richmond tonight was the obligatory good call/bad call question
Q. No 'push up', no Tigers?
A. (Barrett) Agree. There's no mongrel in the Tigers without Jake King. They tried Hislop in King's role and it didn't work because there was no mongrel.
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The only thing about Richmond tonight was the obligatory good call/bad call question
Q. No 'push up', no Tigers?
A. (Barrett) Agree. There's no mongrel in the Tigers without Jake King. They tried Hislop in King's role and it didn't work because there was no mongrel.
Bahahaha stupid.
As much as I'm rating Kings year he's not our most important player lol. Barrett was a circus
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Our good call/bad call question last night was:
Q. Should Richmond players donate their match earnings from Saturday to the Fighting Tiger Fund?
A. (Thomas) Nah they should just forget about the game as one out of the blue given they've been pretty good this year prior to Saturday.
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Our good call/bad call question last night was:
Q. Should Richmond players donate their match earnings from Saturday to the Fighting Tiger Fund?
A. (Thomas) Nah they should just forget about the game as one out of the blue given they've been pretty good this year prior to Saturday.
They should donate our membership back to us.
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They should donate our membership back to us.
And then the club goes broke.
Good call :wallywink :banghead :banghead
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They're going to talk about us now. Hutchy says we've hit the skids and Caro said it's all gone downhill since the Darwin game.
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I've posted what Hutchy said about Jack (playing with a cracked rib) in the Riewoldt thread.
They blamed the turning point midway through the 3rd quarter on us not playing a ruckman. Said it was a strange decision not to play one. Lyon said Vickery was spent by midway through the 3rd and Ryder having worn down his opponent totally took over and the game totally turned around. Caro says she doesn't expect Graham to come in this week either.
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That is disappointing to see Browny being double teamed like that without even another lion player in the same tv shot. Vossy needs to set up the forward line better to stop that of happening.
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Good Call/Bad Call question tonight was - Should Richmond play home games in Cairns? Lyon said "I hope it doesn't cost them a top 8 spot in 3 years time"
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They should donate our membership back to us.
And then the club goes broke.
Good call :wallywink :banghead :banghead
Oh yes I was serious... ::)
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Good Call/Bad Call question tonight was - Should Richmond play home games in Cairns? Lyon said "I hope it doesn't cost them a top 8 spot in 3 years time"
Are we still going to be playing in Cairns in 3 years? ???
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Good Call/Bad Call question tonight was - Should Richmond play home games in Cairns? Lyon said "I hope it doesn't cost them a top 8 spot in 3 years time"
It puzzles me this guy is paid as high as anyone on a football network.
Worst case scenario how on earth is this weeks game in Cairns going to effect 3 years top 8?
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If we aren't in the top 8 in 3 years something seriously wrong at Punt Rd.
Would love to see Melbourne not win a flag and we pinch one like Hawthorn while they brood and Lyon has to admit we are the better side whilst he looks at his paper at his desk while the camera is rolling. :wallywink
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If we aren't in the top 8 in 3 years something seriously wrong at Punt Rd.
If we aren't in next year then Gale's plan has failed. Then the heat in the Hardwick kitchen will go up.
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If we aren't in the top 8 in 3 years something seriously wrong at Punt Rd.
If we aren't in next year then Gale's plan has failed. Then the heat in the Hardwick kitchen will go up.
Sounds like a few posters on here with a vendetta against Hardwick ??? Time to get the chicken poo ready hey guys ;)
We should amke the finals next year but its not healthy to hope for failure imho.
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Boys I want to see us succeed the earlier the better. Facts are facts I believe we will be fighting for top 8 in season 2013. To make it alot of things have to go right however I still would like to see that smug look an that Demetriou organ sucking parasite if we win one before those ski chalet pooheads.
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No surprise there was a whole segment about us tonight.
* 6 goals up against a young side that has struggled all year and then lose is woeful. [well der Garry!]
* Caro reminded everyone she said earlier in the year that selling games could potentially cost Richmond 12 points given we were originally scheduled to play the Suns twice this year plus once against Port Adelaide in Melbourne. In any case it wouldn't have made a difference as we're simply not good enough yet.
* Caro still has hope as she believes the right people off the field are there now and for the first time in a long time there's a long-term plan they are sticking to.
* Hutchy says right now Richmond are the biggest disappointment of the year and supporters have a right to be irate as the Tigers haven't come on as much as they should have this year. With 4 A-graders (Lids, Jack, Cotch & Martin) they should be pushing for the bottom half of the Eight as most sides don't have 4 A-graders. Lyon replied not when you don't have a backline, a ruckman and with just one forward who is out of sorts. Lyon doesn't believe Martin is A-grade yet; Caro said he's only in his second year so you can't expect consistency yet; Thomas rates Martin as A-grade.
* Caro said it could be argued that Gold Coast's young midfield is better than Richmond's. They at least have a ruckman.
* Thomas said Dimma is/will be a good coach but he made a fatal mistake not reviewing the Carlton flogging. When you're trying to build a culture you need to see the horrible stuff to go forward rather than binning it. They then brought up Brad Scott saying North would review their flogging by Collingwood and how they bounced back against the Dogs.
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No surprise there was a whole segment about us tonight.
* 6 goals up against a young side that has struggled all year and then lose is woeful. [well der Garry!]
* Caro reminded everyone she said earlier in the year that selling games could potentially cost Richmond 12 points given we were originally scheduled to play the Suns twice this year plus once against Port Adelaide in Melbourne. In any case it wouldn't have made a difference as we're simply not good enough yet.
* Caro still has hope as she believes the right people off the field are there now and for the first time in a long time there's a long-term plan they are sticking to.
* Hutchy says right now Richmond are the biggest disappointment of the year and supporters have a right to be irate as the Tigers haven't come on as much as they should have this year. With 4 A-graders (Lids, Jack, Cotch & Martin) they should be pushing for the bottom half of the Eight as most sides don't have 4 A-graders. Lyon replied not when you don't have a backline, a ruckman and with just one forward who is out of sorts. Lyon doesn't believe Martin is A-grade yet; Caro said he's only in his second year so you can't expect consistency yet; Thomas rates Martin as A-grade.
* Caro said it could be argued that Gold Coast's young midfield is better than Richmond's. They at least have a ruckman.
* Thomas said Dimma is/will be a good coach but he made a fatal mistake not reviewing the Carlton flogging. When you're trying to build a culture you need to see the horrible stuff to go forward rather than binning it. They then brought up Brad Scott saying North would review their flogging by Collingwood and how they bounced back against the Dogs.
What a idiot Lyon is . No Backline maybe due to injurys peanut to ,did he mention no Grimes,Astbury or Moore.And just one forward who is injuried what about Vickery and Griffths what a peanut.Cant stand him wont slag the demons tho and there so called star Watts.
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What a idiot Lyon is . No Backline maybe due to injurys peanut to ,did he mention no Grimes,Astbury or Moore.And just one forward who is injuried what about Vickery and Griffths what a peanut.Cant stand him wont slag the demons tho and there so called star Watts.
No Lyon was right and you are agreeing with him ;D. The fact that he didn't meniton injuries isn't relevant....
We have no backline and that's because of the reason you state = so many of the key ones being out injured. We haven't really had a settled back six with our long term KP backs playing to together for most of the season.
So I thought Lyon was preety accurate in his assessment...
Hutchy was the one who made moronic statements ;D
* Hutchy says right now Richmond are the biggest disappointment of the year and supporters have a right to be irate as the Tigers haven't come on as much as they should have this year. With 4 A-graders (Lids, Jack, Cotch & Martin) they should be pushing for the bottom half of the Eight as most sides don't have 4 A-graders. Lyon replied not when you don't have a backline, a ruckman and with just one forward who is out of sorts. Lyon doesn't believe Martin is A-grade yet; Caro said he's only in his second year so you can't expect consistency yet; Thomas rates Martin as A-grade.
I would think Adelaide would hold the title of most disappointing - most were tipping them (Hutchy included) to finish top 6 and they will finish bottom 4.
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Cant stand him wont slag the demons tho and there so called star Watts.
Watts is a genuine up and coming star.
It is so silly what people expect of kids. Especially those playing in key positions.
I know one thing is for sure, the RFC doors would be open for this "so called star Watts".
:wallywink :wallywink :wallywink
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* 6 goals up against a young side that has struggled all year and then lose is woeful. [well der Garry!]
That would sound bad except that there was a 4 to 5 goal breeze howling to our end. So really only a 1 to 2 goal lead at qtr time to a team that is not far behind us in terms of age/experience.
* Hutchy says right now Richmond are the biggest disappointment of the year and supporters have a right to be irate as the Tigers haven't come on as much as they should have this year.
So where did Hutchy have us finishing before the start of the season? If he says in the 8, he is bullshitting...most people had the tiges finishing in the bottom 4 to 5 teams. That is where we will probably finish, meaning we are meeting expectations. People are getting caught up in the mid season hype where we strung some nice wins together and forgetting the predictions at the start of the year. Young teams will have the ups and downs and that is exactly what we have had during the year, we can't help it if certain people in the media blow their stack too early.
Oh, and 4 A graders....please. Maybe Jack and Lids. But Martin and Cotchin have hardly played any footy and are potential A graders, not bona fide A graders.
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We really don't have a backline full stop. We all have high hopes for Grimes after he showed glimpses and Astbury but ultimately but realistically neither have shown anymore than Thursfield did when he arrived on the scene. They need time together to learn how to play as a backline team and at the moment we are still trying to fill holes and find players. Next year will be a learning and establishment year for the backline. I hope they grow together quickly but expect more pain early on in 2012 and at the least.
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What a idiot Lyon is . No Backline maybe due to injurys peanut to ,did he mention no Grimes,Astbury or Moore.And just one forward who is injuried what about Vickery and Griffths what a peanut.Cant stand him wont slag the demons tho and there so called star Watts.
It's why I refuse to watch this show anymore, Lyon is a moron and Hutchy just wants Richmond fans to riot so he has a news article tomorrow.
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Tonight with us was predictably about Tuck and why he hasn't been getting a game when he comes in and has 32 disposals at 91% efficiency. Caro said the coaching staff doesn't see him as part of the future and pretty much his papers are stamped. It doesn't look good now given how the team is going. Lyon replied then why don't they delist him if he's papers are stamped. Caro said he'll be delisted at the end of the season. Caro also said the second half of our game was the worst footy she's seen in a long while with Geelong not giving a stuff with the game won and Richmond unable to hit a target.
Hutchy then asked Caro for her thoughts on Angus Graham. Caro said Gus isn't part of Richmond's future. Hutchy thought she was being harsh as Gus had 28 hitouts, 11 disposals and so many clearances on the weekend.
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Garbage in other words. Stuff we kind of knew anyway.
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Quite enjoyed it when Thomas put the bucket on Hutchy's head
I thought (hoping) it was going to get stuck, little twirp
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If Tuck had 91% efficiency I'll eat a cold giraffe
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Did Caro just say Bailey could end up at Richmond as one of his options open to him?
She mentioned Port and GWS as Bailey has connections at both those clubs and in the middle chucked our name in there.
Sure to be incorrect then. :lol
Lyon is a marshmallow.
Lyon didn't look happy when Thommo ripped into melb about how they will go for another soft new coach for 5 years.
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Immediately after Lyons gives the rousing speech about the players having to always have a red hot go to win every match, the next questions refer to the club "tanking" and Lyons says everybody agrees it was the right thing to do at the time. So the club can pick and choose which games to throw. Are the players in on the throwing of games or just the collateral damage?
No there's no hypocracy there Gazza.
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Despite winning, Richmond hardly got a mention on any of the footy shows last night.
On FC, our good call/bad call question was: "Is Brett Deledio unfairly maligned?" to which they all agreed he was.
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good, glad i didn't stay up and watch that junk
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I was so captivated by it ....
I fell asleep watching it ;D
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Watched One week at a time, what a joke, no mention of us. Always only talk about Carlton (Walls) and Hawthorn (Quartermain).
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Watched One week at a time, what a joke, no mention of us. Always only talk about Carlton (Walls) and Hawthorn (Quartermain).
or us when we get flogged
flogs
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That is why I don't watch these analytical footy shows.
Journos have their love ins and scarcely mention us unless we are losing awfully or there is a hint of implosion at Punt Rd.
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Again no mention of us on one week at a time ::) except for dustys goal from the boundary
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Again no mention of us on one week at a time ::) except for dustys goal from the boundary
another none surprise is the praise of how good the hawks press is.
Footy classified is on. Caro going to talk about demons leadership at the end of our game.
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Ross Lyon rumour of coaching demon's next year are starting to get legs seeing how he didn't bat it off while he was on one week at a time himself and now Gary on footy classified isn't really ruling it out.
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Mostly about Tuck tonight. They gave his stats this for his first 4 early games this year and his last 4.
R5 North 11
R6 Bris 7
R9 Ess 12
R10 Port 16
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Avg 11.5
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R18 Geel 32
R20 WCE 29
R21 Syd 28
R22 Melb 28
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Avg. 29.5
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Tuck has played in 5 wins in his 8 games.
If I heard Caro correctly she said she would expect Tuck to get another contract. Fans had been calling for Tuck's return and he prevents floggings. Lyon who was sitting in the Melbourne coaches' box said Tuck complements the side as he has that hard body that is missing in a young side and his winning of the contested footy and clearances is first rate. Hutchy questioned whether Tuck is part of our future. Thomas said the above stats showed it was right that Tuck was dropped after those first 4 games as he has responded since coming back. Caro along with Lyon added that with the addition of zones and structures it requires footballers now to know quite a bit of theory and Tucky has struggled with that so that's why he was sent away before coming back.
On the game Lyon said he was impressed with the Tigers about us winning without major contributions from Cotchin, Martin and Deledio although all three had big crucial moments during the game.
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They finally got to talking about us late in the show. Lyon said selling those two home games has probably cost Richmond a spot in the finals. Caro said it was a good win and we'll most likely finish 9th/10th. They showed vision of Vickery taking about 4 marks and Caro mentioned how well Vickery has come on this year; Cotchin and Martin played very well and Jack was basically busy despite only kicking one goal.
The obligatory good call/bad call question was "Captain Cotchin?"
Thomas said an emphatic yes as he's been a big fan of this for a while. Newman has been a good captain but Cotchin should get the captaincy next year while Newman is still around and can mentor Cotch in the role.
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Everyone forgets that Tuck had a rib injury earlier in season
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Lyon got a 8am phone call from Scully. I bet he wished he'd stayed in bed.
Scully did a youtube for GWS yesterday arvo so as we all suspected he was heading up to Sydney to sign rather than just check out the facilites which is what he told Hutchy.
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He did the youtube clip this morning before the presser
upload date stamp is in US time
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He did the youtube clip this morning before the presser
upload date stamp is in US time
Most likely the case but come on does it really matter what time he made a video about advising what time a press conference is?
It's really clutching at straws just because he didn't give Hutchy the scope at the airport that his going up to sign with GWS(which most people assumed he would do)
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He did the youtube clip this morning before the presser
upload date stamp is in US time
That'll teach me listen to Hutchy :wallywink.
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ƒuck hutchenson the dog rat
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MT=Champ :thumbsup
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Im signing up the rest of the boys, so no one takes em....
G
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The only mention we got tonight was Grant Thomas saying Hamish McIntosh should go to Richmond to help our ruck in exchange for a Mars bar and a can of coke.
Just shows we are off the media radar which isn't a bad thing.
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The only mention we got tonight was Grant Thomas saying Hamish McIntosh should go to Richmond to help our ruck in exchange for a Mars bar and a can of coke.
Just shows we are off the media radar which isn't a bad thing.
They also said Deledio along with others could of been in AA side instead of Bob Murphy.
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Dont forget its on tonight after Survivor so that'll make it start at 11 oclock.
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Dont forget its on tonight after Survivor so that'll make it start at 11 oclock.
Will Caro be dressed in Kmart tonight or spoils?
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Dont forget its on tonight after Survivor so that'll make it start at 11 oclock.
Will Caro be dressed in Kmart tonight or spoils?
The credits said Venture
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Dont forget its on tonight after Survivor so that'll make it start at 11 oclock.
Will Caro be dressed in Kmart tonight or spoils?
The credits said Venture
This :thumbsup
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ahahahaaa venture :thumbsup
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Next week its Treasureway. :thumbsup
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Next week its Treasureway. :thumbsup
There is no next week and might not be a next year from the way Gary was talking at the end of the show.
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Next week its Treasureway. :thumbsup
Bring back "Waltons" I say :rollin
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Next week its Treasureway. :thumbsup
There is no next week and might not be a next year from the way Gary was talking at the end of the show.
Why what was the hairy beast saying?
Either way I could not care less.
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He was complaining Caro organised their end of season break up at Ollie's Trolleys
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He was complaining Caro organised their end of season break up at Ollie's Trolleys
But they both smell like a tin of stale sardines. I don't understand the hairy beasts rant.
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Treasureway....Treasureway....A better way to buy it is at...Treasureway...
GOD I REMEMBERED THE SONG....kill me now
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He was complaining Caro organised their end of season break up at Ollie's Trolleys
Now there's a blast from the past.
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He was complaining Caro organised their end of season break up at Ollie's Trolleys
And that she puts her make-up on using a trowel from McEwans.
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She's back on tonight aww. Will be good to see Thommo.
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Four servings of champagne journalism coming right up....
(http://www.crewpoo.com/images/dog_pooping.jpg)
This. :lol :rollin :lol
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Four servings of champagne journalism coming right up....
(http://www.crewpoo.com/images/dog_pooping.jpg)
This. :lol :rollin :lol
Lawl ;D I forgot I posted that
Well, another year, another season of Caro I guess. Any chance in hell the makeup and attire will improve this year?
I'm tipping the Ken Done Make-up and clothing double for tonight
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Four servings of champagne journalism coming right up....
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This. :lol :rollin :lol
Lawl ;D I forgot I posted that
Well, another year, another season of Caro I guess. Any chance in hell the makeup and attire will improve this year?
I'm tipping the Ken Done Make-up and clothing double for tonight
Cracks me up when I think of it Dooks. ;D
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what time?
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in an hour, torch. :thumbsup
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Heard Caro's got the other guys onto Kmarts "everyday low pices" :shh
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Heard Caro's got the other guys onto Kmarts "everyday low pices" :shh
Hutchy looks like more of a target mr big guy
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Heard Caro's got the other guys onto Kmarts "everyday low pices" :shh
Caro still wears clothes from treasureway.
Hutchy is dressed by Venture.
Thommo is dressed by Coles Variety Stores
and Gary is dressed by that thick layer of fur on his skin.
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A better way to buy it is at treasureway
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This is much better viewing than the FS
Caro looks the same
Grant looks the same (minus new tint colour) :-\
Gary looks like he's put on a few and borrowed some hair from his back fro his head
Hutchy has put on a few and lossed more hair
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Matthew Rendell seems very nervous and I know his trying to explain the full story and context but his not really answering the question. Good to see Gary now bringing him back to the main points now.
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Rendell is stuffing losing it :lol
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I know he has come on to help clear his name but the way he is ranting he is hardly helping himself.
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Ever the see the scene from scanners where the dudes head blows up?!? :banghead :banghead
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I know he has come on to help clear his name but the way he is ranting he is hardly helping himself.
Sometimes its just better to admit you said the wrong thing and apologise. But the way his ranting, yelling and swearing is making himself look alot worse.
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Sometimes when something is still fresh you need to just stay quiet because it is just so hard to take the emotion out of a situation when it has affected you personally.
Like I said he shouldn't have fronted the media so quickly after he resigned because the way he has lashed out tonight and his apology seems unrepentant also.
I feel for him in a way but you just have to take care in what you say in a working environment.
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feel for the bloke. his comment about Andy.D whacking everyone had me in stitches though
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Did you know Ron is Spanish for rum?
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Matt Rendall is right, Its a huge Black problem
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Bravo Matt Rendell. Said what most are thinking. Too many talented aboriginals being lost to the game atm.
Someone needs to fix it rather than throw mud.
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Good on him, stick to your guns, he feels very strongly that hes been misrepresented and is not backing down. Reckon hes been very harshly treated
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yep, Andrew has just made an example out of the bloke. Was hoping Thomas would really tear the fat prick a new one.
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Oh yeah, Caro ::) typical sensationalist journo looking for a headline, takes one little quote and ignores the rest of what is said. He quite clearly explained the context of that comment as in to make a point of what may happen, NOT that it was a policy of the AFC per se.
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that it took 2 months after the event for it to come out is not right and I feel very sad for Rendell.
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Wishing I watched Footy Classified now. Anyone catch On the Couch? Andy D was on, and when they were drilling him on this subject I've never seen a bloke on telly in such a search for words.
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The obligatory Richmond 'Good Call/Bad Call' question last night was whether the Tigers went too early re-signing Hardwick?
Grant Thomas said no it was a good move by the RFC. Hardwick has impressed him as a senior coach and has grown into the role and in fact is probably ahead with the young playing group Richmond has.
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I know he has come on to help clear his name but the way he is ranting he is hardly helping himself.
Sometimes its just better to admit you said the wrong thing and apologise. But the way his ranting, yelling and swearing is making himself look alot worse.
Totally disagree. It's good to see passion as it shows how much this means to him. Most people watching would have felt for him. He showed he actually cares more than most about indigenous Australians. If you listened to the context in how it was said, the guy never should have been sacked.
That intellectual minnow Lyon couldn't quite understand as he said it's not just indigenous people that are in that situation. Well, we all know that Garry. But in this situation that's who we are talking about. According to Lyon's logic we shouldn't have separate strategies for indigenous health etc as other people have health problems too!
Is anyone going to come out and say our health policy is racist on that basis? I don't think so!
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Give him a job Brendon
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Give him a job Brendon
At the Indigenous Centre!
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I know he has come on to help clear his name but the way he is ranting he is hardly helping himself.
Sometimes its just better to admit you said the wrong thing and apologise. But the way his ranting, yelling and swearing is making himself look alot worse.
Totally disagree. It's good to see passion as it shows how much this means to him. Most people watching would have felt for him. He showed he actually cares more than most about indigenous Australians. If you listened to the context in how it was said, the guy never should have been sacked.
That intellectual minnow Lyon couldn't quite understand as he said it's not just indigenous people that are in that situation. Well, we all know that Garry. But in this situation that's who we are talking about. According to Lyon's logic we shouldn't have separate strategies for indigenous health etc as other people have health problems too!
Is anyone going to come out and say our health policy is racist on that basis? I don't think so!
Bravo.
You could sense the passion in Rendell's voice about how much he cared for Indigenous peoples.
Long, long way from being a racist. He is just concerned about a very real issue.
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Have to feel for Rendell after hearing his version of events last night
Been made a scape goat by the AFL it would seem - Andt D was gunning for someone getting the sack Friday morning.
Also appears based on Rendell's comments and Andy D's comments on Foxt last night that someone is telling porkys regarding what happened Friday arvo with Rendell's resignation....
Person getting off scott free in all of this is the Age journo - would love to read the entire transcript of his interview with Mifsud...
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the interview with matt can be seen here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTh-3-4iIMU
It's interesting to see the context of the comment and it's hard to disagree with him.
How stupid is caro?
Seriously, she is either just plain dumb, or a real vindictive slag. After listening to matt for over 5 minutes explain the whole conversation he had with misfud and how the comment came about, she then accused him of having a laugh about it, and then says that he still hasn't explained the silly comment in the first place. :wallywink
I didn't think my opinion of her could get any lower, but i was wrong.
She is an absolute disgrace.
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Slag. Just ask Dipper.
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She also said Hawthorn should have apologised for Clarkson saying we should resign Hardwick. :huh
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She's just completely out of touch and irrelevant. Like jackstar.
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FORMER Crows recruiting manager Matt Rendell has publicly apologised for his comments about Indigenous footballers.
"I publicly apologise sincerely if I have caused any offence," said Rendell on Adelaide radio TripleM today. This follows his conditional apology on Footy Classified on Monday.
Rendell says he has sought to personally apologise to AFL community engagement manager Jason Mifsud and national multicultural program manager Ali Fahour for the position he put forward in a 30-minute meeting at the Adelaide Football Club in January.
Beyond warning AFL recruiting managers would ultimately recruit only Aboriginal players with one white parent, Rendell offended Mifsud and Fahour by suggesting a pre-draft academy be established for under-16 indigenous players who would be re-located in Melbourne.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/rendell-apologises-for-racial-fracas/story-e6frf9jf-1226306434134
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if misfud and fahour really did take offence at the idea of establishing an acadamy for young indigenous kids they are are fools.
The days of being half hearted and still making the grade because of raw talent are gone. It's tough for any one to make the transition to a full time professional sports environment and some people will find it even tougher because of their backgrounds.
Ultimately, there will be less and less people from backgrounds/environments that are seen to be disadvantaged in terms of their chances of making the transition, being drafted.
Even if they don't have a policy per see against any one group, as the recruiters tick off the boxes, those from certain backgrounds will be taken out of the calculations because they simply don't tick the right boxes.
In last years national draft, there was not one draftee from the territory. perhaps this was just a statistical anomaly, but i doubt it.
If these guys want to bury their head in the sand and not put in place programs to prepare young footballers for the rigours of AFL life then it is quite possible the circle may very well turn back to when indigenous footballers were a rarity in the game, and the game will poorer for it.
This carry on shows that those who are in a position to do something about it are not mature enough to discuss the issue in an open an forthright manner, thus hindering their own objectives.
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Top post Al. :clapping
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Mifsud must have photos of Andrew D
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If these guys want to bury their head in the sand and not put in place programs to prepare young footballers for the rigours of AFL life then it is quite possible the circle may very well turn back to when indigenous footballers were a rarity in the game, and the game will poorer for it.
This is my biggest concern. No one will dare make a suggestion to fix things ever again. Natural selection will be the status quo and there will be victims of professionalism. Such is life.
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Beyond warning AFL recruiting managers would ultimately recruit only Aboriginal players with one white parent, Rendell offended Mifsud and Fahour by suggesting a pre-draft academy be established for under-16 indigenous players who would be re-located in Melbourne.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/rendell-apologises-for-racial-fracas/story-e6frf9jf-1226306434134
Forgive my ignorance but what is/was so offensive about that suggestion?
And if you were offended have the guts to raise it at the time not 2 months after the event
And BTW exceptional post al :clapping :clapping
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oh dear the Gestapo is a well oiled machine. :help
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Beyond warning AFL recruiting managers would ultimately recruit only Aboriginal players with one white parent, Rendell offended Mifsud and Fahour by suggesting a pre-draft academy be established for under-16 indigenous players who would be re-located in Melbourne.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/rendell-apologises-for-racial-fracas/story-e6frf9jf-1226306434134
Forgive my ignorance but what is/was so offensive about that suggestion?
And if you were offended have the guts to raise it at the time not 2 months after the event
And BTW exceptional post al :clapping :clapping
exactly!! top post al, if that idea was offensive to them then put your gonads on the line and say so at the time you effin snipers - what a beat up - the afl propaganda machine is in full swing ::). Grant Thomas is close friends with Misfud and hes categorically denied that Misfud was offended by the original comment let alone this suggestion.
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Marngrook footy show tonight(thursday) on abc2 have an exclusive interview with Mifsud.
Be interesting to hear his side of the story now we have heard Rendell's.
The Marngrook Footy Show has an exclusive interview with the AFL's Community Engagements Officer, Jason Mifsud, on our first show of the year, this Thursday night.
The issue of Indigenous participation in AFL football has been a huge topic over the last month, which culminated in the sacking of Adelaide's recruiting officer Matt Rendell last Friday after he made racist comments to Jason Mifsud in a meeting about multicultural participation in the game earlier in the month.
Jason opens up to the Marngrook Footy Show and spoke about his vision for the game and the participation of Indigenous people.
Our expert panel will discuss the issue and give their views on what direction the AFL should take next... and you can catch it all, exclusive to Marngrook and ABC2, Thursday 8:30pm.
http://www.marngrookfootyshow.com.au/
OER I thought I'd post this in here due to the topic being discussed mainly in this thread.
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Its interesting how the AFL falls short compared to the Rugby League system with regards to assisting indigenous kids with talent in their transition into professional sport.
I can speak first hand on this through my profession.
As there is no draft system, Rugby league clubs can invest in talent at a much earlier age and therefore they are able to utilise the private education system through Boarding schools who take on indigenous kids via government or club funded scholarships.
An indigenous liaison officer is assigned to them to help them with any cultural difficulties during the transition. They live away from home for up to 6 years, they get a good education and are provided with excellent training facilities in most cases. They play football for both the School and the Club and their progress is closely monitored and supported. At the end of schooling life they have created friends from various backgrounds, become familiar with football club processes, and more often than not are equipped with the necessary tools to make a decent career out of Rugby League.
As the AFL runs a draft system, clubs are unable to make an early investment in indigenous or rural based talent like they do in League and therefore the AFL must set up an independent Academy if they are going to stop the increasing rates of indigenous kids dropping out of the system.
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The problem with Misfuds interview is it will be pre recorded and the questions will be asked by a friendly reporter. Contrast this with Rendell's interview which was live, unscripted and the co-hosts were hostile and argessive at times. Until the AFL allows Misfud and his mate to go on Footy Classified and face the same level of scrutiny (that Rendell faced) then most footy fans will feel that Rendell was hard done by.
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The problem with Misfuds interview is it will be pre recorded and the questions will be asked by a friendly reporter. Contrast this with Rendell's interview which was live, unscripted and the co-hosts were hostile and argessive at times. Until the AFL allows Misfud and his mate to go on Footy Classified and face the same level of scrutiny (that Rendell faced) then most footy fans will feel that Rendell was hard done by.
100% spot on
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The problem with Misfuds interview is it will be pre recorded and the questions will be asked by a friendly reporter. Contrast this with Rendell's interview which was live, unscripted and the co-hosts were hostile and argessive at times. Until the AFL allows Misfud and his mate to go on Footy Classified and face the same level of scrutiny (that Rendell faced) then most footy fans will feel that Rendell was hard done by.
Not with that one dimensional scrag on there.
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They finally got around the Lids re-signing on FC tonight.
Caro said Lids was already on $500k p.a. so for the Club to retain Lids, a dual B&F, for $600k p.a. was a great get. It was Lids and his manager that pushed for the 5 years. Free agency kicking in already with these 5 year deals (eg: Lids, Hurley). Lids is 24 so he's next contract won't come up again until he's 30.
Caro also said Lids is hardly judged because he's played in a poor side. Lyon agreed. Thomas said B&Fs won in poor teams are surely devalued. Lyon replied that some may say playing well in a poor side is harder. Thomas asked if Cotch and Martin will end up better players than Lids. Caro replied she hopes so as Lids is a good player. Thomas then added yep a good player but not yet a great player. Lyon said that may change with Lids pushing into the midfield this year.
Hutchy said Richmond has now signed up all its key players, its coaching and off-field staff and all its corporate spots. A big summer for the club. Now it's up to the team to tick the final box on Thursday night.
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At least Caro said back to Thommo what of Trevor Barker's and some of Robert Harvey's best and fairests in a poor side and Thommo said I don't rate them either. :lol :rollin :lol
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At least Caro said back to Thommo what of Trevor Barker's and some of Robert Harvey's best and fairests in a poor side and Thommo said I don't rate them either. :lol :rollin :lol
Thommo should cut down on the scotch and macca's.
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And the obligatory Richmond Good Call/Bad Call question tonight was:
Q. Richmond are favourites to beat Carlton on Thursday night?
Caro said don't be stupid. Have you seen the odds for the game?! Carlton has won the past 8 straight against Richmond and have the best midfield in the comp. Lyon replied to Caro - 'then why have you been constantly yapping on to me about the Tiggies for the past 4 months'.
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Wonder if Garry will hit back at Thomo tonight after he gave Neeld a serving in his blog today
Mark Neeld was a school teacher and his attitude reminds me of some of the Christian Brothers I experienced at St Bede's College many years ago. All froth and bubble, threatening, dictating, my way or the highway and without a relationship bone in their body. One senses that wasn't the way he played and its not really his temperament or personality which players see through very quickly. He may very well be the first coach to lose his players before he started. His handling of the leadership group - whilst understandable and in my opinion correct - was obviously not implemented well and was done with little or no buy-in, or empowerment from the playing group..... Irrespective, it seems there is evidence of either dummy-spitting or petulance from the playing group. It is critical that players play for their coach and come to play every game - I'm not certain either party can sign off on that.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=997227&showcomments=true
Edited to remove the part that was a "rumour" and proven to be untrue which has been removed from the original article. Legal ramifications
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I'm sure he will, he would also come out and say melbourne were deplorable and there's no excuses for their performance.
The real question is? Will he bash on the tigers to mask the woeful dees?? I would suggest so
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And what of Caro tonight? Will she go the hessian bag with matching bow?
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Looking forward to the new episode of, Dookie eye for the Straight Caro.
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Looking forward to the new episode of, Dookie eye for the Straight Caro.
Of course you are. You got that, guy? ;)
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Looking forward to the new episode of, Dookie eye for the Straight Caro.
Of course you are. You got that, guy? ;)
Yeah good work, Davey.
Looking forward to GT tonight
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Wonder if Garry will hit back at Thomo tonight after he gave Neeld a serving in his blog today
Mark Neeld was a school teacher and his attitude reminds me of some of the Christian Brothers I experienced at St Bede's College many years ago. All froth and bubble, threatening, dictating, my way or the highway and without a relationship bone in their body. One senses that wasn't the way he played and its not really his temperament or personality which players see through very quickly. He may very well be the first coach to lose his players before he started. His handling of the leadership group - whilst understandable and in my opinion correct - was obviously not implemented well and was done with little or no buy-in, or empowerment from the playing group......Irrespective, it seems there is evidence of either dummy-spitting or petulance from the playing group. It is critical that players play for their coach and come to play every game - I'm not certain either party can sign off on that.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=997227&showcomments=true
excellent summation by thommo
Edited to remove the part that was a "rumour" and proven to be untrue which has been removed from the original article. Leagal ramifications
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Drama Queens the lot of them
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A more pertinent thing is whether
a) The hairy gorilla gives us a serve in order to mask his sides flimsiness brittleness spineless hopelesness and pay out on us and then
b) After the "inevitable losses" both clubs will have this week the malaka starts next week saying we are currently more advanced better prepared and closer to making it in terms of our forwards and mids like he did last year only for the toffs to produce the goods much to the delight of that malaka.
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Amazingly flying under the radar on 360 at the moment. They've spent it bashing Melbourne and talking about Scarlett's public service deed on Ballantyne. Since Neeld will be on On the Couch we might slip through there too.
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Eade saying they hardly got a chance to enable their press against the other night as the Hawks were so quick getting it out (hopefully Dimma or Newman wrote that one down) and most teams are finding sure ways through or over the press in general. Said the press might be obsolete in a few years. Since we can't kick out of one yet I guess we'll be all good when the trend fades ;D
Reminds me of the shotgun formation in offensive lines in American football. Was fool proof for a few years but now defensive lines can read whether it's a passing or rushing play and teams are going back to cover formations.
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Wheatly got our back on it was the media hyping us up. Robbo replied with a typical Robbo remark. Made a good remark or Dusty not chasing Yarran though.
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Caro is dressed by Victory blinds tonight :whistle
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Someones sweating like a pig :whistle
Poor gaddy... :rollin
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Someones sweating like a pig :whistle
Poor gaddy... :rollin
Just threw a cheap shot at our man Richo
They played a sound byte of Richo saying the Melbourne jumper presentation which was held on the MCG turf looked a bit like "grandstanding" to which Garry replied "grandstanding, what when you move your hands around in the air when your teammates don't kick it to you". :wallywink
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You were not half the player Richo was so get stuffed you hairy piece of crap
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Garry just had a go at Richo. He must pay....
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SOB cant handle someone having an opinion. I hope someone from Richmond has a dig at him for that comment.
Richo is the stuffing man :clapping
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Grandstanding, the hairy malaka does it every week.
Richo was right and so was Mick.
You don't need to do that prior to a game.
The hairy malaka can't handle the criticism nor the pressure.
Furthermore if Richo grandstanded every week its b/c he showed more passion than what that hairy turd did in his career.
Richo has more respect from the general footy public than what that man has hamming it up on MMM or side stepping issues on TFS and FC. Give me a break. :help
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This show is terrible. Smug wankers the lot of em...
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l think he summed it up nicely. Richo demanded the ball & was clearly the best options & the players ignored him.
Being at nearly all games l seen this happen week after week & even opposition supporters say the same.
Garry Lyon has it 100% right on that call. but lets see Richo defend that call
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Yep, I'm suprised the lot of them havnt got their junk out on the table and playing with it yet :shh
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Lyon has clearly done a wonderful job getting that club into shape.
Picked a good coach too (again)...
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/td-V5PoQCbU/0.jpg)
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Garry Lyon might have had a dig at Richo but he was right on the money. If you go to games you would see many times in Richo's career that he was ignored by his teammates. Lets see what Richo has to defend that call.
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Garry accused him of grandstanding. bit unfair i would have thought
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That has nothing to do with what hapenned on Saturday.
Richo saw something made a call and that was that. He didn't have a go at him.
The hairy malaka took it personally and took a swipe at Richo.
Pretty petty on my behalf.
If Richo has a go at the hairy malaka then the hairy malaka has every right to take a swipe.
Richo didn't and the hairy malaka showed why he is a malaka.
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Garry accused him of grandstanding. bit unfair i would have thought
Richo must have hit a nerve. 8)
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They gave a fair few plugs with playing highlights of guests on channel 7 Gameday.
Poor sunday footy show didn't get any.
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It's a fair criticism of Richo, his body language was awful if the lead was ignored. It's just that a self centred megalomaniac like Garry isn't the right person to be pointing it out.
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Lyon seemed very sensitive regardiong the MFC last night - face it Gary you beloved Demons a re a joke and now (rightly) they have no where to hide
As for the grandstanding - Richo & Mick were spot on. Only thing is I described it when I saw it as being pathetic and another attempt by the MFC to be the centre of attention
Every club has a presentation of guernsey's to debutants before games. Difference is all other clubs with the exception of the "look at us look at us MFC" do it in their inner sanctum; that is the rooms. Not out on the middle of the MCG so the world can see.
Struth they are a joke of a club
No where to hide now Dees, not even at Mt Hotham
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Lyon seemed very sensitive regardiong the MFC last night - face it Gary you beloved Demons a re a joke and now (rightly) they have no where to hide
As for the grandstanding - Richo & Mick were spot on. Only thing is I described it when I saw it as being pathetic and another attempt by the MFC to be the centre of attention
Every club has a presentation of guernsey's to debutants before games. Difference is all other clubs with the exception of the "look at us look at us MFC" do it in their inner sanctum; that is the rooms. Not out on the middle of the MCG so the world can see.
Struth they are a joke of a club
No where to hide now Dees, not even at Mt Hotham
I hope we beat them..
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Lets see what The Hairy Malaka says about this weeks game and whether he'll start with the "Richmond are clear favourites because they played well against Collingwood on Saturday night". :sleep
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Lets see what The Hairy Malaka says about this weeks game and whether he'll start with the "Richmond are clear favourites because they played well against Collingwood on Saturday night". :sleep
Caro is wearing fossey's
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Lets see what The Hairy Malaka says about this weeks game and whether he'll start with the "Richmond are clear favourites because they played well against Collingwood on Saturday night". :sleep
Caro is wearing fossey's
:lol :rollin :lol
Looks more like something from venture.
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Nice deflection by The Hairy Malaka on Lethal's comments about him not being in an official capacity but making comments on the club and why Lethal as to a reason why Lethal would never coach them.
No tantrums this week Garry or is Leigh Matthews to big a name to take on. :help
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GT in decent form
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GT in decent form
Last week he thought he was batting like Viv Richards.
This week he is playing with a straight bat and batting like Chris Tavare.
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haha, I think he might have been half drunk and stoned last week. he was just taking the pee all night.
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Too big a name Tucker...
Gary would of been the hairy brute at school that picked on the smaller kids for lunch money to fund his waxing addixction.
As gary just said now, the biggest test is against richmond. That is codeword for: they think they can beat us, they're firing up their boys and they're gonna give it a huge crack
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At least Hutchy admitted we have been competitive against quality opposition.
Nice summation by Thommo saying that Vickery hasn't got his mind on the job and needs to start doing that.The FC crew could've gone harder on us but why fire us up ahead of Melbourne' so called Grand Final this week.
GT is no longer batting like Chris Tavare he is now Mile Gatting. :lol :rollin :lol
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Fosseys.png)
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Hutchy is a funny bloke, I was listening to him and crawf on sat morning. Crawf was giving it to him cos he met his girlfriend at maccas, then crawf called her up on air and put him on the spot. He handled it well, but I can imagine the steam coming out of that tight collar of his.
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Hutchy is a funny bloke, I was listening to him and crawf on sat morning. Crawf was giving it to him cos he met his girlfriend at maccas, then crawf called her up on air and put him on the spot. He handled it well, but I can imagine the steam coming out of that tight collar of his.
Hutchy consumes maccas on a daily basis the fat pig..
Imagine the gas.
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The 4 amigos are on now. I wonder how much time Garry spends on his beloved Dees?! :whistle
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Melbourne are a protected species atm considering the club is near a basket case.
Must still be considered too close to Jim Stynes death for the media to go to town on them.
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Anything intresting on? Fell asleep on the couch
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Melbourne are a protected species atm considering the club is near a basket case.
Must still be considered too close to Jim Stynes death for the media to go to town on them.
near?
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Melbourne are a protected species atm considering the club is near a basket case.
Must still be considered too close to Jim Stynes death for the media to go to town on them.
near?
;D
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Lloyd on replacing Hutchy tonight.
As far as Richmond, they are going to discuss where Jack Riewoldt's footy is at.
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They showed Jack's stats for the year focussing on his low contested marks. They showed vision of Jack in 2010 against West Coast taking 4 contested marks in a quarter and compared that to Jack this year having only 4 contested marks in 4 games.
Games 4
Goals 6
Marks 14
Contested marks 4
Lloyd said Jack's not going for his marks and goals like he use to. They first showed Jack handballing off near goal and stuffing it up by handballing it at Vickery's feet. Lloyd added Jack looks lost and is playing from behind and waiting out the back for the cheapy.
Thomas said he doesn't believe Jack has bought into Hardwick's gameplan to have a spread of goalkickers and not have Jack as the main man. Hardwick is right going forward but Jack wants to be the pea in the pod. That's reflective in Jack's attitude. Thomas said he doesn't want to say Jack needs to be more team orientated as he's probably being too team orientated at the moment trying to show it won't work. He's a little betwix and between as far as understanding what his role is in Hardwick's gameplan.
Lloyd also said 3 key forwards down at Geelong is too many. Caro said Miller is Richmond's leading goalkicker with 9 compared to Vickery and Jack on 4. Thomas questioned where Miller was the right option given where Richmond's development is. Lloyd said one of Miller and Vickery had to go and you should give the younger bloke the go.
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Pretty good call on all fronts actually!
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Pretty good call on all fronts actually!
Yep
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Video of last light's discussion about mostly Geelong but shows vision of the 3 handpasses we made that were intercepted by the Cats in the last 10 minutes :P
Click on the 3rd video (Title: Are the Cats past their best?)
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/footyclassified/video
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Snip! Stick to the footy discussion ppl and leave out the infighting.
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Thomas questioned where Miller was the right option given where Richmond's development is. Lloyd said one of Miller and Vickery had to go and you should give the younger bloke the go.
I've been saying this since Miller was drafted by us and I'll say it again.... Miller is a waste of time waste of effort and a waste of an opportunity that should be given to a youngster. Pointless.
Now that I have a Coleman medalist and a former AFL coach agreeing with me i'd like to see what all you Miller lovers(you know who you are) have to say now.
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lol i dont care what those guys say,i still mantain Miller is the best option until a youngster starts pushing for selection,and at the moment miller is better than jack and vicks
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:lol clowns agreeing with clowns
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lol i dont care what those guys say,i still mantain Miller is the best option until a youngster starts pushing for selection,and at the moment miller is better than jack and vicks
x 2 :clapping
Reality bites ;D
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lol i dont care what those guys say,i still mantain Miller is the best option until a youngster starts pushing for selection,and at the moment miller is better than jack and vicks
x 2 :clapping
Reality bites ;D
And that is really an indictment on Jack and TV's form this year. Mind you Miller joined our awful tall forwards club last Sunday.
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For years we have been critical of our defence yet in the first four games they have been first class and our forwards yes have been woeful.
Now to get Jack and Ty firing with Miller playing the support role whilst maintaining their success and intensity. :thumbsup
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We got a segment about us and the game last tonight ...
Caro said like the Geelong game the week before it was another honourable loss in a game they (Richmond) could have won. Caro said she didn't want to say we choked but it means Richmond aren't a good enough side yet. They are a young side who made crucial mistakes at crucial times late in the match that cost them the game. They then showed vision of Nahas mouthing off to the umpire at the ball-up on our forward 50 which gifted the Eagles a free; then Jack taking too long to spot Dusty open on the lead inside 50 and then of course shanking the kick and missing Dusty by 10m kicking straight to an Eagles defender; they then fast forwarded the same play as the Eagles ran down to their forward line and Rance giving away the free for holding to Josh Hill.
Hutchy replied that Caro because of her emotional attachment to Richmond was way too harsh. That was a great effort on the weekend from the Tigers. No one has got near West Coast like that this year. Richmond are a much improved side this year and their time is coming over the next 4-to-8 weeks.
Caro repeated that you can't accept honourable losses and that Richmond don't have that belief in themselves yet. She also mentioned we have Port (away), Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn in the next 4 weeks. They (Richmond) do have a tough draw this year.
Later in the show, Caro said although Etihad is a great place to watch footy, the Richmond vs West Coast game should never have been played there. Richmond supporters hate Etihad and only 28k turned up when you would've got 40k if the match had been at the MCG.
In Good Call/Bad call they showed a member of our cheer squad holding her six month old baby while watching the game. They all agreed babies shouldn't be allowed in cheer squad as it's too dangerous a place behind the goals. A stray footy could have hit the baby in the head. You don't risk a baby's life.
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"Caro repeated that you can't accept honourable losses and that Richmond don't have that belief in themselves yet. She also mentioned we have Port (away), Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn in the next 4 weeks. They (Richmond) do have a tough draw this year."
Mentally weak!!!
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no, mentally week side get flogged every week, like 2009
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I have lots of mentally weeks
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i used to, but I've got it down to a few mentally days a week now
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What primus was saying in regards to the port ressies (on the couch i think) is the exact reason richmond needs a stand alone 2nd side. No more.burgers
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What primus was saying in regards to the port ressies (on the couch i think) is the exact reason richmond needs a stand alone 2nd side. No more.burgers
Hungry Jacks would not be impressed.
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Geez, I just agreed with Caro.
Someone tell me what i should do! :'(
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wire brush and dettol
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Black Plastic, Masking Tape, PVC piping, Gerbals and Brie Cheese
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A shortish segment about us tonight ...
The 4 amigos thought we had a good win on the weekend. Hutchy is even bullish about us as far as finals. He reminded everyone he said last week that the next 6 weeks are going to be exciting for the Tigers. Richmond is on the cusp.
Caro seemed less convinced that we have had that breakout game yet but said Richmond's second quarter was very good and then we were good enough to hang on and have a big win albeit against an ordinary Port Adelaide. Caro added our midfield is now becoming elite, our backline is building (Thomas still has concerns) and we have a forward line that has potential.
Lyon said there would be more to Hutchy's bullish beliefs if Richmond had won one of the games against Carlton, Geelong and West Coast as we've only beaten Melbourne and Port. Caro said we should have won two of those three games against top 4 opponents and we played better than Eagles last week who are her premiership favourites. Thomas is still holding off on the Eagles as they haven't played the top sides yet (apart from Hawthorn if you count them).
Thomas said the Tigers have been on the rampage the past month looking for a scalp and they got it as they should as we are a better team than Port is. He agreed with Hutchy that there is substance to the Tigers now. Richmond is now showing a consistency each and every week. It demonstrates what he said earlier in the show that the competition this year has compressed up and the footy in 2012 has been great to watch.
Thomas later in the show gave Hardwick his coaching performance of the week.
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Black Plastic, Masking Tape, PVC piping, Gerbals and Brie Cheese
sick man... :nope
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Last night was Caro dressed from
a) K-Mart
b) Target
c) Best and Less
d) Big W
e) Coles Variety Stores
f) Venture
g) Treasureway
h) Hiltons
i) Lowes
j) Millers fashion club
k) Australian Geographic
l) Eastcoast
m) Sweathog
n) Witchery
o) Uncle Bucks Prahran Superstore
p) Clint's Crazy Bargains
q) The Warehouse
r) McDonalds uniform recyclers
s) Harris Scarfe
t) Savers
u) Oz Knits
v) Gasp Chapel St and Chadstone
w) 2012 Aussie Olympic Team
x) Ezi Buy
y) Hungry Jacks Trainees
z)Woolworths
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Last night was Caro dressed from
a) K-Mart
b) Target
c) Best and Less
d) Big W
e) Coles Variety Stores
f) Venture
g) Treasureway
h) Hiltons
i) Lowes
j) Millers fashion club
k) Australian Geographic
l) Eastcoast
m) Sweathog
n) Witchery
o) Uncle Bucks Prahran Superstore
p) Clint's Crazy Bargains
q) The Warehouse
r) McDonalds uniform recyclers
s) Harris Scarfe
t) Savers
u) Oz Knits
v) Gasp Chapel St and Chadstone
w) 2012 Aussie Olympic Team
x) Ezi Buy
y) Hungry Jacks Trainees
z)Woolworths
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Fosseys.png)
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Bring back Waltons I say
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Last night was Caro dressed from
a) K-Mart
b) Target
c) Best and Less
d) Big W
e) Coles Variety Stores
f) Venture
g) Treasureway
h) Hiltons
i) Lowes
j) Millers fashion club
k) Australian Geographic
l) Eastcoast
m) Sweathog
n) Witchery
o) Uncle Bucks Prahran Superstore
p) Clint's Crazy Bargains
q) The Warehouse
r) McDonalds uniform recyclers
s) Harris Scarfe
t) Savers
u) Oz Knits
v) Gasp Chapel St and Chadstone
w) 2012 Aussie Olympic Team
x) Ezi Buy
y) Hungry Jacks Trainees
z)Woolworths
All of the above are incorrect.
It was actually the salvos :thumbsup :shh
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Maybe you are right Jack. :thumbsup
Was probably either Forges of Footscray or Dimmeys in Coburg.
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Maybe you are right Jack. :thumbsup
Was probably either Forges of Footscray or Dimmeys in Coburg.
Forges are no longer in Footscray
they moved a while back to Braybrook ;D
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Maybe you are right Jack. :thumbsup
Was probably either Forges of Footscray or Dimmeys in Coburg.
Forges are no longer in Footscray
they moved a while back to Braybrook ;D
Oh cmon boys I came on for some humour and you're all cutting my lunch. :lol :rollin :lol
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I see Caro used that gift card voucher from kmart I sent her :thumbsup
Looks hot, I'm available for the brownlows :shh
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Hutchy once again on the Tiger bandwagon. Tonight he claimed Rance and Grimes right now are the best FB and CHB pair in the AFL. Apparently when Grimesy is playing we have a 20% more chance of winning (based on 2011-12). Hutchy reeled off a stack off stats Grimes is high up in at Richmond. Caro said she couldn't believe Grimes is the same player who played against Carlton in round 1. That's how much he has improved since then.
Caro also chucked in that in 4 weeks we'll know about Kel Moore's future.
Caro praised Blair Hartley (our list manager) for recruiting Grigg, Houli, Morris (who tries to kill himself every time he plays) and big Ivan. She added we are all set up for free agency. All our guns are signed up and we have room in our salary cap.
They praised Grigg's form this year. Caro said Essendon, knowing the damage Stanton is doing on a wing for them, will focus on not letting Grigg have the MCG wing to himself. Thomas said if you give Grigg time and space he'll cut you open; however if you don't he's not such a good player.
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i said that about rance and grimes last week, is hutchy stealing my thoughts lol
re the bumbers, we stop watson, we stop stanton cos hw feeds of watson. so stop him and we win
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They praised Grigg's form this year. Caro said Essendon, knowing the damage Stanton is doing on a wing for them, will focus on not letting Grigg have the MCG wing to himself. Thomas said if you give Grigg time and space he'll cut you open; however if you don't he's not such a good player.
Reckon old Cornflakes is spot on the money
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That's the beauty of having someone like Grigg step up, sure, put time into stopping him that's goig to free up one of Martin, lids and cotch, yeah don't think so. Moat clubs only have 1 lockdown player max 2 so you can't negate all 5 of our firing mids
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So you negate the bloke that gets it to Grigg then play through Grigg's man because he's unaccountable
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True if we were a one man band
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are we talking about stopping Grigg or our whole midfield?
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They praised Grigg's form this year. Caro said Essendon, knowing the damage Stanton is doing on a wing for them, will focus on not letting Grigg have the MCG wing to himself. Thomas said if you give Grigg time and space he'll cut you open; however if you don't he's not such a good player.
Reckon old Cornflakes is spot on the money
yep, said it on the weekend atm he is our Bradley/Stevens if you will .....
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Both, they're not mutually exclusive... it's not hard to stop Grigg on his own but when you have to deal with lids, Martin, cotch and foley, Grigg becomes an afterthought.
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Grigg gets on the end of the great work of the others. His greatest asset is his run into space and ability to deliver the ball inside our F50. This is particularly note worthy later in the game when things open up.
If the Boomer play a run with role with Grigg they leave another of our midfielders open and also reduce their offensive capabilities. I think the way they are playing, Essendon will back their players to beat ours with perhaps one tagger playing on Cotchin/Lids only.
If we win the game it will be through the defensive efforts of our midfield and disposal efficiency of our backline threading through their zone. I don't believe they will try and change up their game for us straight away (ie playing man-on-man from the first bounce to stop our uncontested ball movement) but they will have it down as Plan #2 based on our problems facing that tactic against the Swans.
Should be a good challenge but I feel we can win this. :thumbsup
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Totally agree Stripes.
Most teams with the zone structures dont play more than 1 tagger.
Who do the bombers tag - cotchin? lids? and now there is talk of Grigg being tagged haha go for it. Tag Grigg on one wing that leaves lids free on the other.
Have fun bombers figuring this conumdrum out.
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Not much about us tonight as they spent most of the time talking about the big losers over the weekend - Carlton, Melbourne and North.
Hutchy accused Caro of being too emotional and harsh about the Tigers. Caro said honourable losses should no longer be accepted given the side we have now and that the harsh reality is despite playing better than a 3-5 side, we are now on the same number of wins as lowly Brisbane. Thomas chipped in that Richmond has had a much harder draw playing all the top sides. He also said the result went to script and reflected where both Essendon and Richmond lists are at. Caro added that if Jack, who was well held and is out of form, had stood up as he has in the past, he could have got the Tigers across the line.
In another segment they were talking about the different types of courage on a footy field and that one of them is choosing to run hard and being accountable rather than slacking off and expecting someone else to do the work. They showed the play where Cotch at HB footpassed to a teammate on the wing and then kept running on past three Bomber players, who didn't chase, to get on the end of Titch's handball and kick a goal.
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Its on now btw
Caro and Hutchy pumping up our tyres, gary anf grant thankfully deflating them
Caro looks shexy tonight
Hairy malaka is great, really :lol
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Its on now btw
Caro and Hutchy pumping up our tyres, gary anf grant thankfully deflating them
Caro looks shexy tonight
Hairy malaka is great, really :lol
More importantly is she dressed tonight from Fosseys Venture or Treasureway.
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Too hard to tell, I'm mesmerized at the moment.
Does anyone know who huitchy supports at all?
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The Tiger lovefest continues from Hutchy ;D
* Thomas said Richmond was in such a manic mood on the weekend they would've beaten anybody. Lyon showed vision of how we had a spare man (Newy) to help out Rance and shut out Franklin. At the other end our forwards placed enormous pressure on Birchall, Schoenmakers and Suckling resulting in their kicking efficiency being well down and shutting down Hawthorn's rebound of half-back. Suckling who is known usually as a pretty good kick had a kicking efficiency of just 46% for the game and for a lot of the first half it was 0%.
* Lyon praised the recruiting of Grigg (would be top 3 in B&F), big Ivan and Morris (Caro said overlooked by everyone for 4 years). Caro added Houli as well as Lyon wasn't as definitive about him saying Bachar would be top 10 in our B&F before admitting he's been good.
* Caro praised Justin Leppitsch for how well our backline has improved. There were always big wraps on Leppa even from Brisbane when he was up there.
* Hutchy is on the Tiger bandwagon big time. Asked the question if we were a top 8, top 4 or dare say contenders? Lyon and Caro said definitely top 8 contenders. Caro added she thought before the start of the season that Richmond could make the top 8. Thomas said there's no doubt Richmond should be aiming for the top 8. Whether they make it or not doesn't matter as they'll be playing finals next year. Caro mentioned "other people's" opinion in that these people were comparing us to Brisbane in 2001 where the Lions started with just 4 wins in the first 9 rounds before winning every game on their way to the flag. She said she doesn't see us winning every game and Thomas chipped in guaranteeing we won't. Lyon tried to dampen things down by saying the reality is Richmond is a side that has won 4 games (Hutchy said Garry they've had to play all the top sides) and Dimma is trying to keep a lid on things without the whole Tiger army going overboard. Hutchy chipped in with "too late for that Garry". Caro said the attraction of the Tigers is they are playing attractive footy to watch, their crowds are great and they are 2nd or 3rd in memberships (sic we're 4th). People around the comp. can sense the Tigers are building and it's exciting. Lyon said no doubt the old cliche 'it's good for footy' applies to a up and coming Richmond.
* Caro asked who was the bigger appointment at Richmond - Gary March getting Brendon Gale or Gary March and Brendon Gale getting Damien Hardwick. Hutchy was unequivocal in saying Brendon Gale. Benny has totally revolutionized and rebuilt that club from top to bottom.
* They talked about Tucky being reborn as a footballer after he could hardly get a game last year when Dimma kept overlooking him.
* Hutchy is also impressed by Ellis. Will be a player.
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Does anyone know who huitchy supports at all?
Geelong.
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Blink and you would've missed any discussion on our game tonight ::). All they showed was mini Maric's tackle on Goddard that lead to Jack putting us back in front.
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Blink and you would've missed any discussion on our game tonight ::). All they showed was mini Maric's tackle on Goddard that lead to Jack putting us back in front.
Very similar deal on 360 and On the Couch. They both spent more time on the upsets. They looked at Carlton's next month and were pretty sure we will pinch their spot in the 8. From memory, the only points briefly mentioned on the Fox shows were:
-Maric tackle
-Jack's 8 goals
-How good Cotchin is
-Dusty's kicking being a let down this year (showing him bombing it out on the full, shanking kicks and missing targets, yet he'll gracefully put one through the goals on the run from 60)
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Happy that they didn't talk us up again.
Oh and Carro's lisp was as good as ever tonight.
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just on carlton how fickle are the media.
lets see
kruezer = maric
waite = jack
murphy = cotchin
laidler = grimes
henderson = rance
carrazzo = hmm probably = morris in his ability to shut down but gets heaps.
duigan = batchelor
yarran = houli
not making excuses for that filthy mob but seems to me most clubs would suffer pretty heavily with injuries to similar types. what they dont have is a lot of depth and its showing.
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just on carlton how fickle are the media.
not making excuses for that filthy mob but seems to me most clubs would suffer pretty heavily with injuries to similar types. what they dont have is a lot of depth and its showing.
They're having a go at Carlton's lack of effort. With the exception of Collingwood who are nothing short of remarkable right now, you would be hard pressed to find any side that could cope with that many blokes missing. Even the Cats have lost some gloss after a few retirements and injuries. The media aren't having a crack at Carlton using injuries as an excuse. They're having a go at Carlton's lack of effort. Across the board they've gone from being top 4 in most key game stats in rounds 1-6, to being 15th and 16th in the same stats since round 7. Losing their spine has nothing to do with going from 3rd to 16th in contested ball. Without Murphy and Carazzo they're sure to drop a few pegs in that department, but not that far.
I hope Bootsma is still getting a game when we play them next. Only looks about 15 years old, comes across as a massive smart arse, and would love to see King give him a touch up.
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just on carlton how fickle are the media.
lets see
kruezer = maric
waite = jack
murphy = cotchin
laidler = grimes
henderson = rance
carrazzo = hmm probably = morris in his ability to shut down but gets heaps.
duigan = batchelor
yarran = houli
not making excuses for that filthy mob but seems to me most clubs would suffer pretty heavily with injuries to similar types. what they dont have is a lot of depth and its showing.
they had a full list when they got done by 10 goals by essendon, it was their lack of effort initially and u make it out as if theyve been missing all those players together, fact is they have missed a few games here and their sporadically big deal...
but really carazzo is the massive out for them, allows murphy and simpson to downhill ski with the best of them, take him out of the side and it has a ripple effect, that good player carazzo nails starts hurting them the other way and making their midfield more acountable. Carlton have always been downhill skiers under Ratten, kind of why i hope he stays ;) They'll be dangerous and win games but will never win a flag. Murphy out just makes them pedestrian. Isnt it funny that Gibbs still doesnt get a gig in the midfield. :shh
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Don't know if anyone saw this stat but hutchy and co were discussing the 2 new franchises and hutchy brought up a ladder on the screen excluding GWS, GC so 16 team ladder based on this years games excluding any games against them. Richmond was in 6th place so far this year. Pies on top, dees on bottom. Adelaide in 8th.
Just goes to show you how much certain teams have benefitted from the %booster and how we alway get fruced over.
Imo it just reinforces how far we've come, but now we need to dig deeper to get ontop of this wave
Btw hairy malaka aka Gary has gone in to bat for his mate over Caro.... Wankfest at its best
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Don't know if anyone saw this stat but hutchy and co were discussing the 2 new franchises and hutchy brought up a ladder on the screen excluding GWS, GC so 16 team ladder based on this years games excluding any games against them. Richmond was in 6th place so far this year. Pies on top, dees on bottom. Adelaide in 8th.
Just goes to show you how much certain teams have benefitted from the %booster and how we alway get fruced over.
Imo it just reinforces how far we've come, but now we need to dig deeper to get ontop of this wave
Btw hairy malaka aka Gary has gone in to bat for his mate over Caro.... Wankfest at its best
Those two new teams should never have been created.
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Waiting for the segment on us.. Sick of seeing Nathan Buckley and Collingwood. I farknn hate them so much.
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Waiting for the segment on us.. Sick of seeing Nathan Buckley and Collingwood. I stuffnn hate them so much.
Agree, was thinking of having a urinal wall installed in my bathroom at home. Paint it black and white. And have aphoto of eddie on the handle. :o
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Waiting for the segment on us.. Sick of seeing Nathan Buckley and Collingwood. I stuffnn hate them so much.
Agree, was thinking of having a urinal wall installed in my bathroom at home. Paint it black and white. And have aphoto of eddie on the handle. :o
I'll do the same but with Jarryd Blair.
Most annoying face in football.
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oh and this bloke:
(https://auctiondesq.imgstg.com/assets/auctiondesq/lots/images/main/BrownMain2.jpg)
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Fasolo for mine
They mentioned the vivkery grin and dance again-a nyone know what that was about?
It look slike he says " I'm having chciken tonight, chicken tonight!!" But I could be wrong
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Fasolo for mine
They mentioned the vivkery grin and dance again-a nyone know what that was about?
It look slike he says " I'm having chciken tonight, chicken tonight!!" But I could be wrong
and Caro tried to defend him.. prfff
We were two points down and he is having a frikkin laugh..
Needs a good smack.
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Like Vickery is in any position to have a crack at anyone anyway. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Good Call/Bad Call had the question - "Is Nick the No.1 Riewoldt?"
Lyon said Nick is and has always been the No.1 Riewoldt.
You've got to love the media and their selective memories. Only a week ago Jack kicked 8 against Nick's mob and they all jump on the Tiger bandwagon; Lose to Freo and they predictably jump off and dismiss us.
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Fasolo for mine
They mentioned the vivkery grin and dance again-a nyone know what that was about?
It look slike he says " I'm having chciken tonight, chicken tonight!!" But I could be wrong
and Caro tried to defend him.. prfff
We were two points down and he is having a frikkin laugh..
Needs a good smack.
apparently she called the club and they said nothing in it
As if they would be telling her anything
Yeah Dimma would love to see a bloke who has done SFA all year laughing and giggling
No worries
FO back to Coburg Vickery
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apparently she called the club and they said nothing in it
As if they would be telling her anything
Actually think they would tell her something if they needed too to get a stroy out there to defend him
But what could they say? Seriously how could they defend it?
It was embarassing and he should be dropped for that alone forget the fact he is playing crap
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Lyon also reffered to Saturday's abomination as "a great match, a great match". Yeah Gary, it was a real advertisment for the game wasn't it? Boy his anti-Richmond bias really shines through.
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Good Call/Bad Call had the question - "Is Nick the No.1 Riewoldt?"
Lyon said Nick is and has always been the No.1 Riewoldt.
You've got to love the media and their selective memories. Only a week ago Jack kicked 8 against Nick's mob and they all jump on the Tiger bandwagon; Lose to Freo and they predictably jump off and dismiss us.
Jack has been a better player than Nick for a few years now.
Gaddy is burning.
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Caro is dressed like a nun tonight
Gary taking a whack at chris newman
Hutchy defending his mate brayshaw
Thommo speaking some sense
Whoa!!
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Caro is dressed like a nun tonight
Gary taking a whack at chris newman
Hutchy defending his mate brayshaw
Thommo speaking some sense
Whoa!!
Well said Thommo
Im soooo over the back scratching channel nine boys club, someone needs to take Brayshaw, Lyon, Crutchy and the rest to task..
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What did he say?
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What did he say?
Crutchy saying, down the camera, that they should leave Brayshaw alone..
Caro came back saying a good prez unites people which Brayshaw isnt doing
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What did fat Thommo say?
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Caro is dressed like a nun tonight
Gary taking a whack at chris newman
Hutchy defending his mate brayshaw
Thommo speaking some sense
Whoa!!
I thought she was dressed like orphan:
(http://www.moviegoods.com/images_blog/orphan.jpg)
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Or a pilgrim lady:
(http://img.costumecraze.com/images/vendors/forum/65720-Pilgrim-Lady-Set-large.jpg)
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wq7ugaDNVUU/S7NMhKXx9sI/AAAAAAAAALU/flGBE3zdvxI/s320/pruneface.jpg)
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>:(
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What did fat Thommo say?
WA Umps should continue to umpire Eagles' matches as 150 more frees proves they are doing their job lol.
Btw they said the crowd up in Sydney was the lowest to a game involving Richmond since round 18, 1993 (6,025 vs West Coast @ Princes Park). Out of interest just 8,797 turned up at the 'Gabba to watch us play the Bears the week before too. Puts the new expansion teams' crowds into some perspective.
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So as I was entering the mrc on saturday and was wondering why on a saturday there was no games being played at the G. I don't have a problem with the team travelling at all, but when OUR home ground is vacant why not play there and get maybe 40k to the g rather than 6k to their ground. Let them host teams like adelaide, port, sydney and even brisbane. Places that have rugby following
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Is on now
Discussing noughts' " historic win" apparently!! :clapping
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Caro and hutchy put shonky used car salesmen to shame the way the backtrack
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Love Caro's backtrack
Rode up there on my goat, twice
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;D
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A little bit about us tonight.
Caro said 33 points up on one of the best sides in the comp. it looked like it was going to be one of those historic wins that would have propelled Richmond into the Eight given the ladder now. Basically they blew it and probably have blown their finals chances with North now ahead of them. She said North in the form they are in now after beating Adelaide and St Kilda deserve to play finals.
Thomas in his "Thoma-meter" segment gave Dimma a whack. Said Hardwick sent the wrong message to the players after the game saying Adelaide was a good side and it was a good effort. Dimma has been harder on the players for less in the past and that's got results. He needs to be hard on them again.
In good call/bad call the question was "Should Richmond pull the pin on Brad Miller's career?" Lyon replied 'bad call' as you always need depth. Vickery isn't flying this year and Jack Riewoldt is down there by himself needing help.
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Yeah Nought deserve to play finals after that 100+ point loss to Hawthorn ::)
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Yeah Nought deserve to play finals after that 100+ point loss to Hawthorn ::)
& GWS and Gold coast twice ::)
Real crunch game when we play them (Nort)
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Yeah Nought deserve to play finals after that 100+ point loss to Hawthorn ::)
& GWS and Gold coast twice ::)
Real crunch game when we play them (Nort)
We've got about 5 crunch games coming up.
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
a young Anthony Hudson.
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
a young Anthony Hudson.
lolll @ grant thomas tonight.. how much does he hate Richmond?
prick
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
a young Anthony Hudson.
lolll @ grant thomas tonight.. how much does he hate Richmond?
prick
You've got to be joking? He's a fan of us. Didn't bag us once. He was obviously winding up Caro by saying "why sack a bloke for sleeping in"
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A little about us last night ...
* Lyon started by saying the game wasn't one you would want to watch again [Ed: understatement #1]. Richmond should have iced the game by 1/4 time but they kicked very poorly for goal [Ed: understatement #2]. Incredible really Melbourne were still only 20 points down with 10 minutes to play.
* Brought up about Lloyd on the Sunday Footy Show bagging Jack for his petulance and continually talking to the umpires looking for frees. Caro said that's not the main issue about Jack from Saturday. Jack kicked poorly. Thomas said it's just Jack's nature and if Jack hadn't taken heed of the criticism about his onfield behaviour you'd see a lot more of it. A credit to Jack that he is curbing that behaviour most of the time.
* Replayed Craig Cameron saying Martin needs structure in his life. Caro said that's been known for a while. First time it's been mentioned publicly. Dusty just comes from a different background and upbringing. Thomas thought Connors being sacked for sleeping in was harsh. He would have handled it differently (didn't give an answer as to how) and wouldn't have terminated his contract. Caro said Dan was on his 8th and last chance and he knew that after the previous time. Thomas said Rob Harvey was late for training or missed it 2-3 times per year. Caro said that's a ridiculous analogy comparing the two. Hutchy said there's also the influence on Dustin Martin partying to 2-3am in the morning. Thomas replied so Connors is copping the whack for Martin.
* The obligatory Richmond Good Call/Bad Call question tonight was - "Richmond will learn to regret ever playing Gold Coast in Cairns?"
Caro said bad call, condescending call and doomsday call. Richmond should hopefully be able to beat the Gold Coast anywhere in the country if they are serious. By this time next year Richmond will be debt free and hopefully all future home games against the Suns will be at the MCG.
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
a young Anthony Hudson.
lolll @ grant thomas tonight.. how much does he hate Richmond?
prick
You've got to be joking? He's a fan of us. Didn't bag us once. He was obviously winding up Caro by saying "why sack a bloke for sleeping in"
He's a wanker.
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Everyone's a wanker, or fool or tossa if they don't agree with the thought process of a few ..
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Everyone's a wanker, or fool or tossa if they don't agree with the thought process of a few ..
Lol.
You are the master of disrespect anytime someone disagrees with you.
So yeah, I guess you are correct
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Everyone's a wanker, or fool or tossa if they don't agree with the thought process of a few ..
Lol.
You are the master of disrespect anytime someone disagrees with you.
So yeah, I guess you are correct
Another angel of the site!!
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Everyone's a wanker, or fool or tossa if they don't agree with the thought process of a few ..
Lol.
You are the master of disrespect anytime someone disagrees with you.
So yeah, I guess you are correct
Yes it's all rather ironic really. ;D
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Rabid dogs are at it again.... Should be more on the way soon.., more like sheep actually!!
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some just become monotone. :lol
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FFS MOVE ON, two days of stupid poo now, honestly, I am over half the crap on this forum. I had an opinion just like the NO EXCUSES opinion I had and now the threads are full of poo.
Like I said, funny how the team agreed with no excuses, let's see how long before we lose another game we should win and someone says mentally weak!!
Anyway, I am over the snide remarks from both sides, one being me only, so let's stop the crap!
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Don't know if anyone else is watching... But they had ratboy barrett out on location at the westpac centre
Macguire, pert, clokes there etc supposedly talking re: deal
Ratboy dirty enough to be filming thru a small gap in the window curtain... This guy will stoop to any low- and to think he was sniffin around punt rd last week :shh
and that other young dude. the "apprentice"
a young Anthony Hudson.
lolll @ grant thomas tonight.. how much does he hate Richmond?
prick
You've got to be joking? He's a fan of us. Didn't bag us once. He was obviously winding up Caro by saying "why sack a bloke for sleeping in"
He's a wanker.
He's a fishermen and he's caught you.
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just on Thommo i sense
most dont respect his opinion
within the football community. :clapping
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FFS MOVE ON, two days of stupid poo now, honestly, I am over half the crap on this forum. I had an opinion just like the NO EXCUSES opinion I had and now the threads are full of poo.
Like I said, funny how the team agreed with no excuses, let's see how long before we lose another game we should win and someone says mentally weak!!
Anyway, I am over the snide remarks from both sides, one being me only, so let's stop the crap!
I think you will find the line hey use will be "were a young side, still learning" we're not mentally weak, we're still a young developing side, mental toughness will come with games and age.........
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which is BS. They should should just have it , and have it now
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
2013 for me, no excuses ;)
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what the hell are finals?
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
2013 for me, no excuses ;)
Well let's hope so TFT, did you think or call for finals this year?
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:lol
dont you just love predictive text
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
2013 for me, no excuses ;)
Well let's hope so TFT, did you think or call for finals this year?
No I didn't mate. I thought we old improove our ladder position but probably not make he finals. O be honest I believe we are further long than I thought we would be. I honestly thought the top sides would still blow us out of the water but o be as comped active as we have in hose games has Ben a huge plus. Fill a few more holes in our list next season and we will be ready to take that next step ;)
Well let's hope so TFT, did you think or call for finals this year
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gee my predictive text comment was very predictive :lol
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gee my predictive text comment was very predictive :lol
Goodnight al, enjoy your evening!!
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not sure why you quoted that post wat, but good night and enjoy yours too.
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
Not really sure why you drag me into your posts and question me directly?
You value my opinion that much :rollin :rollin
But to make you feel better I'll answer directly again
Yeah still sticking by 2013
My view(s) hasn't changed one iota.
That OK? ;D
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Looks like the injuries are starting to bite as feared.
All clubs get them but with such a young list our depth is still building.
Hopefully we can still kick and bite our way into the 8 but if not there have been plenty of positives this year regardless.
We're moving in the right direction, I'm sure of that.
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which is BS. They should should just have it , and have it now
exactly gotta run before
you can walk.
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;D
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No you are all right, let's waIt another......what how many years you experts....c'mon, what year, stand up for a change and pick the year we will play finals..
WP, you still sticking by 2013?????
Not really sure why you drag me into your posts and question me directly?
You value my opinion that much :rollin :rollin
But to make you feel better I'll answer directly again
Yeah still sticking by 2013
My view(s) hasn't changed one iota.
That OK? ;D
Sorry thought you wanted to be included more by the comments you make in various threads that refer to some of my previous comments....
Yeah that's fine, thanks!
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:lol
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:lol
Still minding your own business again al...
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:lol
Still minding your own business again al...
dont be so precious wat, i was laughing with you, not at you.
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Back to the topic ppl!
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
Welcome back to the game tbr
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Caro is dressed like a nun tonight
Gary taking a whack at chris newman
Hutchy defending his mate brayshaw
Thommo speaking some sense
Whoa!!
Thommo is a twit. He's the reason so many st Kildare players got injured with his do something special to break open the game mentality. Ended up with a pile of broken stars. Total twit.
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Whoa.
How's Donuts?
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Just a reminder that its ON tonight at 11pm and not on monday.
Catch the best of foortys first lady, hairy malaka, the hamburgler and thomato
Btw, whilst the game was on yesterday I flicked it to MMM say 10 minds into first quarter, when I heard gary lyon say to the other guys.. I've just been watching the game in cairns because I've got nothing better to do and (then went quiet as if gesturing something) cos the next second choo man and everyone else starting laughing and peeing themselves..
That guys hatred is so blatant for this club, I hope he gets a bout of dioreahah whilst broadcasting tonight, wooly mammoth!
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Thommo threw up in Garry's dresser after a show once.
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We're last on their agenda tonight.
Caro briefly said there should be 2-3 names who should hang their heads in shame after last night but more on that later in the show.
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Caro was in supporter mode tonight.
Caro said doesn't like clubs selling home games but it's not an excuse. She quoted Malthouse on 3aw who said it was treason by the club (any club) to do that to it's footy team.
They showed all our mistakes in the last few minutes - Moore kicking above Cotch's head who had someone right on him, Maric and Derickx dropping sitters, mids not manning up and going one-on-one at the final centre bounce, 4 Tigers going to Matera when 3 of them had no chance of reaching him, Houli zoning off and goalkeeping.
Caro asked how can two players drop simple marks like that? Take them and the game is over. Thomas said pressure can make a ball melt in your hands. Gold Coast still believed they could win in the last few minutes whereas Richmond still doubted themselves.
Caro said Richmond is today a humiliated, ashamed and embarrassed club. No one has put their head up today to face the spotlight.
She said Jackson (in leadership group yet has missed 10-11 weeks now through suspension), Martin (grog/sleeping pills & missed training when the side is playing for finals) & even White (suspended as well) should all be ashamed of themselves for letting the club. All play and Richmond wins.
She also blamed the replacements Graham & Webberley for not being up to it and that Newy and Rance copped injuries.
Thomas said from his experience, with St Kilda down at Launceston when they had a great home record at Etihad, was that teams can subconsciously revolt against playing a home game away. They resent having to hop on a place and travel far away to play at home.
Thomas also said finance doesn't matter if you aren't winning. Caro said Richmond will probably lose the $500k they made now in lower crowds. Lose to North next week and the crowds will fall away for the rest of the season.
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A little bit about us tonight.
Hutchy thought the game on Sunday was one of if not the game of the season. Caro said we played well but North were the better team. She agreed with Malthouse's comments after the game that a lack of maturity cost us. Seeking permission to allow Wayne Campbell to be our runner on Sunday for the first time was partly about being able to educate and instruct the younger players onfield
Caro was more concerned about a apparent lack of discipline creeping in with firstly Hardwick abusing an umpire earlier in the year, then a trainer denying he had a go at an umpire as well and saying it was directed at Freo, then the off-field stuff with Martin and Connors, and finally on Sunday giving away silly and costly 50m penalties and free kicks.
Thomas did a ladder prediction amd had us finishing 10th on 12 wins just outside the final 8 on %.
1. Hawthorn
2. Adelaide
3. Collingwood
4. Sydney 64
5. West Coast
6. North Melbourne 56
7. Geelong 56
8. St Kilda 48
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9. Essendon 48
10. Richmond 48
11. Fremantle 48
The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was:- Despite missing the finals, will the Tigers have a Coleman and Brownlow medallist this year?
Hutchy said no. Cotchin not yet ready to win a Brownlow.
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Who cares if we miss the 8 now as long as Bummers miss. :birthday :pray
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Let me make 2 points:
1. Hutchy was trying to insinuate that Wayne Campbell is a coach and there was something untoward about RFC using him as a runner on the weekend.
2. Is it a lack of discipline, just plain and sick and tired of being singled out by the officials on game day, every game????
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Intersting cambo is the runner, must have been some way of addressing the fiasco at cairns with total communication breakdown when usually the runner starts coaching the side
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Thomas did a ladder prediction amd had us finishing 10th on 12 wins just outside the final 8 on %.
8. St Kilda 48
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9. Essendon 48
10. Richmond 48
11. Fremantle 48
Would put that Suns game in a universe of it's own as another of Richmonds great cokups
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Intersting cambo is the runner, must have been some way of addressing the fiasco at cairns with total communication breakdown when usually the runner starts coaching the side
Actually reckon it was a good move but raises the question why we haven't done it earlier ;D
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Thomas did a ladder prediction amd had us finishing 10th on 12 wins just outside the final 8 on %.
8. St Kilda 48
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9. Essendon 48
10. Richmond 48
11. Fremantle 48
Would put that Suns game in a universe of it's own as another of Richmonds great cokups
It already is.
Finals were there for the taking given the back half of our draw and given the even nature of the comp, anything is possible from there if we give yourself a chance.
But we screwed it royally. :(
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The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was:- Despite missing the finals, will the Tigers have a Coleman and Brownlow medallist this year?
Hutchy said no. Cotchin not yet ready to win a Brownlow.
lol WTF would Hutchy know?
Not ready?
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Intersting cambo is the runner, must have been some way of addressing the fiasco at cairns with total communication breakdown when usually the runner starts coaching the side
Actually reckon it was a good move but raises the question why we haven't done it earlier ;D
Good point bojangs and agree with WP, but for supporters and members its great to see the club has put a measure inplace. Most I would think would be sastisfied with this
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The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was:- Despite missing the finals, will the Tigers have a Coleman and Brownlow medallist this year?
Hutchy said no. Cotchin not yet ready to win a Brownlow.
lol WTF would Hutchy know?
Not ready?
Hutchy's not ready to go on a diet.
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Intersting cambo is the runner, must have been some way of addressing the fiasco at cairns with total communication breakdown when usually the runner starts coaching the side
Actually reckon it was a good move but raises the question why we haven't done it earlier ;D
I reckon Hutchy had a good point here, reflects badly on your leadership when you have to get Campbell in there at this stage.
Pity Caro couldn't take her Tigers beanie off her ears and listen to what they were saying instead of taking it off track with garbage about AFL permission.
And what the hell was with her hair last night?
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The obligatory Richmond good call/bad call question was:- Despite missing the finals, will the Tigers have a Coleman and Brownlow medallist this year?
Hutchy said no. Cotchin not yet ready to win a Brownlow.
lol WTF would Hutchy know?
Not ready?
Hutchy's not ready to go on a diet.
Hutchy had dieted. He's shoving pillows up his shirt so he doesn't look like a little dweeb like parrot. true story*
*may or may not be true.
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Lol Caro in the pilgrim outfit again
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Snip! Leave the crude/sexual commentary off the forum and stick to the footy talk ppl!
Anyway according to Lyon - Hutchy and David Cloke had a fairly heated exchange during the week.
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Snip! Leave the crude/sexual commentary off the forum and stick to the footy talk ppl!
Anyway according to Lyon - Hutchy and David Cloke had a fairly heated exchange during the week.
About Travi$ no doubt...
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Unless Cloke picked him up and slammed him in the desk, it wasn't heated enough imo.
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Anyway according to Lyon - Hutchy and David Cloke had a fairly heated exchange during the week.
Hutchy didn't dispute it
Not sure if many people picked up but Hutchy said that Damir said AGAIN - COntract must be 5 years or his son walks....
Steer clear Tigers....
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Cloke! What a tool PASS! And what's with his stupid wings fn idiot
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Cloke! What a tool PASS! And what's with his stupid wings fn idiot
Wants to be a fairy like those princesses that go to underage raves.
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5 years he is kidding warrandyte must be getting expensive for the cloke family to live out off. look what we have done in the past with 5 year deals Terry Wallace, Troy Simmonds great even 3 year deals Jordan McMahon lol
Cloke wont be going anywhere all his dad doing must just be missing the spotlight, Coke will never go to Richmond just ask Mrs Cloke she was the reason he didn't come to us in the first place by all reports
GO YOU TIGERS
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Go you Tigers :clapping
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Anyway according to Lyon - Hutchy and David Cloke had a fairly heated exchange during the week.
Hutchy didn't dispute it
Not sure if many people picked up but Hutchy said that Damir said AGAIN - COntract must be 5 years or his son walks....
Steer clear Tigers....
Twav looks quite happy at the Pies...
(http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/collingwood-jpg.3957/)
:rollin
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:lol must be a deal sweetener from the Pies
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:wallywink
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I still want Cloke.
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Anyway according to Lyon - Hutchy and David Cloke had a fairly heated exchange during the week.
Hutchy didn't dispute it
Not sure if many people picked up but Hutchy said that Damir said AGAIN - COntract must be 5 years or his son walks....
Steer clear Tigers....
i think we moved on from donkey weeks ago. :shh
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I still want Cloke.
How bad do you want him?
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I still want Cloke.
How bad do you want him?
Offer him 5 years @ 700k pa.
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I still want Cloke.
How bad do you want him?
Offer him 5 years @ 700k pa.
Was not talking about footy
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Richmond has offered Cloke 4 years for $900,000 ... source: a Richmond player.
However, was said Carlton was more likely to take him.
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I still want Cloke.
How bad do you want him?
Offer him 5 years @ 700k pa.
Was not talking about footy
I think you're on the wrong site then Mrakov.
Richmond has offered Cloke 4 years for $900,000 ... source: a Richmond player.
Ok with that offer too.
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Cloke won't accept less that 5 years. Imagine adding Cloke, Chaplin, Knights, Tyson all in the same year. Then the Wellingham rumour too. :lol Let's go get us one of them Visy salary caps.
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Cloke won't accept less that 5 years. Imagine adding Cloke, Chaplin, Knights, Tyson all in the same year. Then the Wellingham rumour too. :lol Let's go get us one of them Visy salary caps.
imagine even going close.
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How much to keep Pia at the club???
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Grant Thomas has quit all media.
Matthew Lloyd will replace him on Footy Classified.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/former-st-kilda-coach-grant-thomas-walks-away-from-football-media-jobs/story-e6frf9jf-1226479069955
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Hopefully Classified will get the arse.
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Grant Thomas has quit all media.
Matthew Lloyd will replace him on Footy Classified. ::) ::) ::)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/former-st-kilda-coach-grant-thomas-walks-away-from-football-media-jobs/story-e6frf9jf-1226479069955
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gee whiz :huh
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Grant Thomas has quit all media.
Matthew Lloyd will replace him on Footy Classified. ::) ::) ::)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/former-st-kilda-coach-grant-thomas-walks-away-from-football-media-jobs/story-e6frf9jf-1226479069955
Great... He will put the boots in every time we lose.
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Loved Thomo....anyone know the story?
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Loved Thomo....anyone know the story?
Choc full o malti pooness
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The announcement sparked rumours Thomas was preparing to return to coaching, but that is not the case.
but then Sam says,
Thomas remained tight-lipped over the reasons behind his departure when contacted by SuperFooty.
must be a mind reader, Sam the Edmund.
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Can confirm Port have their man in 2013. Been a lonnnnngggg week :shh
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Hopefully Classified will get the arse.
Strong chance with Matty Lloyd getting involved.
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Love Lordo. Funny fella. poo hot full forward in his day too. Was watching the sunday footy show the other week when the coleman was up for grabs. Someone asked Lloydy what he thought of Hawkins leading on 62, Lordo says "I had 62 a few times......at the halfway point of the season" :lol
I sat there clapping while screaming "yessssssssss big man"....
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Love Lordo. Funny fella. poo hot full forward in his day too. Was watching the sunday footy show the other week when the coleman was up for grabs. Someone asked Lloydy what he thought of Hawkins leading on 62, Lordo says "I had 62 a few times......at the halfway point of the season" :lol
I sat there clapping while screaming "yessssssssss big man"....
Yessssssssss big lloydy :clapping
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Another reason not to watch
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No doubt we'll get the "we don't know why Thomas quit" excuse tonight from Hutchy and Lyon.
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Big Sexy will be sorely missed. But Lordo is a fantastic replacement :clapping
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Remember looking at the clock at 10:28 and just woke up now how was the show?
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Wasn't bad. Thommo was there.
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Footy Classified supposedly back tonight around 10.40pm
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Meanwhile, backstage at makeup....
(http://www.mr-skill.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Polyfilla.jpg)
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Caro must have taken a whole 20 seconds to get ready tonight. Who is she wearing?
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Caro must have taken a whole 20 seconds to get ready tonight. Who is she wearing?
Looks like a homie
Knitted it herself
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Why does Lloyd smirk every time he talks? It's hard to take him seriously.
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Why does Lloyd smirk every time he talks? It's hard to take him seriously.
Because he's a >insert word<
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Why does Lloyd smirk every time he talks? It's hard to take him seriously.
Because he's a >insert word<
Hopped off the Lloyd bandwagon yet again. You will do anything to please the masses
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Why does Lloyd smirk every time he talks? It's hard to take him seriously.
Because he's a >insert word<
Hopped off the Lloyd bandwagon yet again. You will do anything to please the masses
The word was champion
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Lordo :bow
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Yep Lloyd said us winning 3 close games was one of the top 5 things you could take out of the whole NAB Cup. Apart from that and Caro saying Hardwick is in the 2nd tier behind Malthouse in terms of coaches most under pressure this year, there wasn't anything else about Richmond on tonight's show. No mention at all about Lyon's stupid article on Dusty either btw.
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Garry is a slut
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Yep Lloyd said us winning 3 close games was one of the top 5 things you could take out of the whole NAB Cup. Apart from that and Caro saying Hardwick is in the 2nd tier behind Malthouse in terms of coaches most under pressure this year, there wasn't anything else about Richmond on tonight's show. No mention at all about Lyon's stupid article on Dusty either btw.
Lloyd kind of put the boots into his old side too
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I have miised this article from the HM, where can I find it? As I'm keen to read Gawee's article
If anyone should be writing on matters such as integrity is should be Gawee ::)
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Tonight they all started with the Victorian hats on by saying the season really starts this week on Thursday night with the first game of the season in Melbourne.
Caro and Lyon said it'll be interesting from the perspective of the loser on Thursday night. Lyon said there's so much hype about both these sides prospects this year and asked to which team is this game more important to? Lloyd said this game is more important for Richmond to win. They wouldn't want to cop another belting. Caro said there's pressure on Malthouse to make the finals this year as well as high expectations at Richmond.
Lyon put up a grab showing Richmond has lost the past four round 1 matches by an average of 50 points and we haven't beaten Carlton in the past 9 meetings.
Hutchy replied that Lyon was focussing too much on the negatives regarding Richmond. The Tigers are ready to go. He said Richmond will win on Thursday night and will finish top 4 this year. He added we've beaten both last year's grand finalists on the MCG. Lyon chipped in Richmond also lost to the Gold Coast. Hutchy said yeah but that can be attributed to a young side. Lyon accused Hutchy of being selective.
Lloyd said Richmond lacks any players with finals experience so they haven't learnt to play on the big stage. Thursday night will be played like a final. The query on Richmond is can they handle that pressure on the big stage.
Caro said if the Tigers get belted again then the AFL will start to seriously consider whether "this mob" deserves to keep this game. Lloyd agreed saying a Port or Melbourne would kill for a game like this.
Caro asked the question if having a big game against Carlton was right for Richmond to start the season. Maybe a not so hyped up game (against a smaller drawing club) would be better? Lloyd replied that it's a cop out if they are blaming the big stage for losing. Caro said they (Richmond) aren't - she was just asking the question. Lyon said in the past this game and this opponent (Carlton) wasn't the right one for Richmond to start the season. However this year it's the right game, right opponent, right time, etc...
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If port or Melbourne or nought had this game, it wouldn't be a big game now would it Lloydy? Gee wiz
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Heard Gaddy Lyon also talking about Taylor Walker, something like - 'He has been hyped up massively in the pre-season, nearly as much as Richmond'
Gaddy hates us so much! It must really cut him up that his side has wasted so many draft picks and their climb back up the later got as high as 12th in 2010 then they plunged back down the ladder. :lol
I hope we can go on a 8-12 game winning streak against the Dees. Smash them every time we play them. They have burst our bubble plenty of times.
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Heard Gaddy Lyon also talking about Taylor Walker, something like - 'He has been hyped up massively in the pre-season, nearly as much as Richmond'
Gaddy hates us so much! It must really cut him up that his side has wasted so many draft picks and their climb back up the later got as high as 12th in 2010 then they plunged back down the ladder. :lol
I hope we can go on a 8-12 game winning streak against the Dees. Smash them every time we play them. They have burst our bubble plenty of times.
:lol not beyond the realms of possibility. They are poo and will be for awhile. Did he sign off on Dawes contract? :lol
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Yeah WTF was that "hyped nearly as much as the Tigers" rubbish. We have hardly said a stuffing word, it's all these gimps in the media building us up even though few are tipping us to make the 8 ;D Pack of bastards.
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I feel sick, just sick
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I feel sick, just sick
Well this has gone beyond a joke now. How dare Gawwee make our beloved gherkin feel so ill. :banghead :banghead
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Maybe gawwee can knit gerks a jumper out of his private stock back hair collection :shh
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Caro has been replaced on the panel with Grug :o
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Lmao at Grug. :lol :lol :rollin :rollin
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:santa
Yeah WTF was that "hyped nearly as much as the Tigers" rubbish. We have hardly said a stuffing word, it's all these gimps in the media building us up even though few are tipping us to make the 8 ;D Pack of bastards.
True dat, uncle.
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We must have won; they hardly mentioned us.
Hutchy reckons we'll destroy St Kilda on Friday night.
Lyon mentioned that Port and the Dogs were 1 and 2 on the ladder and Lloyd piped in "and Richmond's ninth, Caro!" Caro replied "oh good one Matty" and said "who cares; Richmond won and they got the monkey off the back". Lyon added it was a very good win.
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Lloyd is a lady boy lover
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Have split the fascinating discussion on travelling in Thailand to the General Discussion board
See:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17597.0
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Have split the fascinating discussion on travelling in Thailand to the General Discussion board
See:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17597.0
Did they fess up to paying for lady boys?
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Has Footy classified been pushed back to 11pm.
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Has Footy classified been pushed back to 11pm.
Hard to imagine why...
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Was good viewing
They had a monkey on doing the caterpillar
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They only talked about St Kilda regarding last Friday night's game. The only Richmond related topic they talked about last night was a good call/bad call on Kingy's near-speckie. Hutchy reckons 'push-up' is now hitting his peak and he has 4 years left at AFL level at least.
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They only talked about St Kilda regarding last Friday night's game. The only Richmond related topic they talked about last night was a good call/bad call on Kingy's near-speckie. Hutchy reckons 'push-up' is now hitting his peak and he has 4 years left at AFL level at least.
At least that little table scrap was something compared to AFL 360, which I sat patiently through the obligatory wringing of the hands over Melbourne, the open roof debate, and reams and reams about how great Collingwood are :chuck, without hearing a single word about us >:( . Then, when On The Couch came on and the special guest was Scott Farkleberry, I decided I'd had enough.
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Was good viewing
They had a monkey on doing the caterpillar
did it have a baseball cap on backwards?
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They only talked about St Kilda regarding last Friday night's game. The only Richmond related topic they talked about last night was a good call/bad call on Kingy's near-speckie. Hutchy reckons 'push-up' is now hitting his peak and he has 4 years left at AFL level at least.
At least that little table scrap was something compared to AFL 360, which I sat patiently through the obligatory wringing of the hands over Melbourne, the open roof debate, and reams and reams about how great Collingwood are :chuck, without hearing a single word about us >:( . Then, when On The Couch came on and the special guest was Scott stuffleberry, I decided I'd had enough.
There was no need for the automatic censor to change my term -arkleberry to "stuffleberry". Although it begins with the letter "f", it's not a variation on the word which must not be uttered.
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the auto censor is hardly a prude, but it will not tolerate mention of Vaccinium Arboreum
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That's what we've wanted for a fair while.
To not be in the media
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the auto censor is hardly a prude, but it will not tolerate mention of Vaccinium Arboreum
Don't think there are any prudes left in here are there? They went the way of the dinosaurs - frozen out of existence in the last Ice Age.
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That's what we've wanted for a fair while.
To not be in the media
Yep, loving being under the radar for the moment. Been playing like poo anyway.
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but it will not tolerate mention of Vaccinium Arboreum
Doesn't he play for Behindenal?
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That's what we've wanted for a fair while.
To not be in the media
Yep, loving being under the radar for the moment. Been playing like poo anyway.
Lets all thank Melgourne
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Last night's show began with Lyon saying "we'll discuss if the Tigers are the real deal" and Caro chipping in "Oh so Richmond will actually get a mention on the show this year".
* Lyon admitted Richmond is definitely a better side than what he had thought.
* Hutchy said get on board the Tigers. Remember he tipped us before the start of the season to finish top 4.
* Lloyd said the sign of the good side is 5-6 players having their best years. Richmond have that.
* Caro spoke about the test coming up against the Pies, Freo and Geelong. Even if Richmond only win one of these they'll still be ahead; if they win two of them then they're flying.
The good call/bad call Tigers question was whether Andy Maher disrespected Luke McGuane by cutting him off mid-interview to dance around the SEN studio and announce that Adam Scott had putted the 18th.
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Last night's show began with Lyon saying "we'll discuss if the Tigers are the real deal" and Caro chipping in "Oh so Richmond will actually get a mention on the show this year".
* Lyon admitted Richmond is definitely a better side than what he had thought.
* Hutchy said get on board the Tigers. Remember he tipped us before the start of the season to finish top 4.
* Lloyd said the sign of the good side is 5-6 players having their best years. Richmond have that.
* Caro spoke about the test coming up against the Pies, Freo and Geelong. Even if Richmond only win one of these they'll still be ahead; if they win two of them then they're flying.
Thought they were gonna do more on us. Was very brief
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I fell asleep watching it so I missed the bit about us
Listening to Matyou Lloyd waffle on about the lack of respect Caro and others are showing James Hird when he (Hird) hasn't done nuffing wrong was the thing that sent me to :sleep :sleep land ;D
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there was a couple of times where it looked like garry was eating a cheesedick sandwich past its use by date
delicious
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there was a couple of times where it looked like garry was eating a cheesedick sandwich past its use by date
delicious
Gaz would have eaten every last bite. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise. :shh
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I fell asleep watching it so I missed the bit about us
Listening to Matyou Lloyd waffle on about the lack of respect Caro and others are showing James Hird when he (Hird) hasn't done nuffing wrong was the thing that sent me to :sleep :sleep land ;D
So you mean being paid $1.2 million and being in charge of a club you can't be sure of what was actually injected into your own players isn't bad enough?
That doesn't deserve respect. It deserves a sacking!
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Are they trying to compete with Danoz Direct and Proactive by slotting this show in at this new ratings blockbuster time slot?
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there was a couple of times where it looked like garry was eating a cheesedick sandwich past its use by date
delicious
:lol
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Footy classified is on now at the early time.
Missed the first 15 mins watching Barry Hall on Open Mike.
Any mention on us?
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there was a couple of times where it looked like garry was eating a cheesedick sandwich past its use by date
delicious
:lol
:rollin
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Footy classified is on now at the early time.
Missed the first 15 mins watching Barry Hall on Open Mike.
Any mention on us?
Lyon mentioned they are going to talk about us "coming up short" shortly.
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sledge hammer annoys me struggles with his words.
is he dyslexic?
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The talk about us tonight was about our lack of tackling.
41 tackles per game is the worst in the AFL this year. The past 3 years (2010-12) we were going at around 62-64 tackles per match. We were tenth in tackles per game last year.
Newy, Houli, Morris just 3 tackles in total this year from 4 games.
Vickery, Tuck 4 tackles.
We had just 2 tackles in the 3rd qtr up to the 30th minute mark (4 tackles in total). Caro said that was pathetic.
Lloyd questioned Chaplin's role and why he didn't go third up to support Rance against Cloke. The big forward is still an issue with Cloke kicking 7 and Liam Jones last week kicking 4 goals on Rance last week.
Lloyd said with that low tackle count we'll struggle to reach top 4 to top 6. Still could make the top 8 as you can still beat the bottom/weaker sides.
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Mat-two also said despite what he had just said (non top 4-6 but maybe top 8 ) we are on the right track
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we may be heading in the right direction but while everyone else is using the freeway we are on the stuffing goat track
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we may be heading in the right direction but while everyone else is using the freeway we are on the stuffing goat track
Avoiding those monster b-double trucks that are about to hit Victoria roads ;D
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The talk about us tonight was about our lack of tackling.
41 tackles per game is the worst in the AFL this year. The past 3 years (2010-12) we were going at around 62-64 tackles per match. We were tenth in tackles per game last year.
Newy, Houli, Morris just 3 tackles in total this year from 4 games.
Vickery, Tuck 4 tackles.
We had just 2 tackles in the 3rd qtr up to the 30th minute mark (4 tackles in total). Caro said that was pathetic.
Lloyd questioned Chaplin's role and why he didn't go third up to support Rance against Cloke. The big forward is still an issue with Cloke kicking 7 and Liam Jones last week kicking 4 goals on Rance last week.
Lloyd said with that low tackle count we'll struggle to reach top 4 to top 6. Still could make the top 8 as you can still beat the bottom/weaker sides.
Can Morris be excused because he tries to smother most the time?
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The talk about us tonight was about our lack of tackling.
41 tackles per game is the worst in the AFL this year. The past 3 years (2010-12) we were going at around 62-64 tackles per match. We were tenth in tackles per game last year.
Newy, Houli, Morris just 3 tackles in total this year from 4 games.
Vickery, Tuck 4 tackles.
We had just 2 tackles in the 3rd qtr up to the 30th minute mark (4 tackles in total). Caro said that was pathetic.
Lloyd questioned Chaplin's role and why he didn't go third up to support Rance against Cloke. The big forward is still an issue with Cloke kicking 7 and Liam Jones last week kicking 4 goals on Rance last week.
Lloyd said with that low tackle count we'll struggle to reach top 4 to top 6. Still could make the top 8 as you can still beat the bottom/weaker sides.
Can Morris be excused because he tries to smother most the time?
He doesn't need to tackle. His opponents rarely get the ball as they are usually petrified!
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Reminder the 4 Stooges are due for their weekly talk fest around 9.40pm
As always the big issues will be tackled
What will Caro be wearing?
Will Matchew Llllllooooyd put a negative opinion forward regaridng his beloved Bummers?
Will Glary say anything remotely positive about Richmond
Will Hutchy continue to look like he's just consumed 4 tonnes of KFC, Maccas & Hungey Jacks just prior to going on air?
Can harldy wait to see what they have to say about the goal that wasn't
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Reminder the 4 Stooges are due for their weekly talk fest around 9.40pm
As always the big issues will be tackled
What will Caro be wearing?
Will Matchew Llllllooooyd put a negative opinion forward regaridng his beloved Bummers?
Will Glary say anything remotely positive about Richmond
Will Hutchy continue to look like he's just consumed 4 tonnes of KFC, Maccas & Hungey Jacks just prior to going on air?
Can harldy wait to see what they have to say about the goal that wasn't
(http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/Product/medium/cc/pilgrim-womens-costume.jpg)
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Reminder the 4 Stooges are due for their weekly talk fest around 9.40pm
As always the big issues will be tackled
What will Caro be wearing?
Will Matchew Llllllooooyd put a negative opinion forward regaridng his beloved Bummers?
Will Glary say anything remotely positive about Richmond
Will Hutchy continue to look like he's just consumed 4 tonnes of KFC, Maccas & Hungey Jacks just prior to going on air?
Can harldy wait to see what they have to say about the goal that wasn't
Yesssss :clapping
Gary's getting tense as lloyd is asking about the melbourne coaching position hahahhaha love watching him sweat :lol
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Predictably they talked about the final two minutes of the Freo game as another example of us losing a close game. Lloyd said it's an indictment on the players if they need the bench to be yelling out to get back. They showed Houli being on the wrong side of Ballantyne at the throw-in and how if Freo had asked how they wanted the set-up for that throw-in then they couldn't have asked for a bigger space that was left by Richmond in front of goal.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-04-29/tigers-of-old
The show didn't mention this but just as an aside re-looking at the vision, Nahas was in that space initially on his own in front of the ruck contest (everyone else was manned up expect for Hannath who was 2m behind Maric and Griffin). Nahas then runs past the ruck contest to outside the pack (as Hannath runs in to double team Maric) leaving the space open for Ballantyne to run into and kick the winning goal.
Anyway the only other Richmond item was a good call/bad call question - "Should Richmond re-sign Dusty at the end of the season?". Caro said Dusty has been good this year and that he is now linked closely to Richmond and will stay.
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Put all of that aside.Yet they failed to mention how we were robbed 4 points and a win because of stupid umpiring.
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Put all of that aside.Yet they failed to mention how we were robbed 4 points and a win because of stupid umpiring.
Whichever way you look at it, 4 points gone which we could've avoided.
Why crave their approval?
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Footy Crappified
4 slimey turds rubbing together for warmth
Waste of time
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The show didn't mention this but just as an aside re-looking at the vision, Nahas was in that space initially on his own in front of the ruck contest (everyone else was manned up expect for Hannath who was 2m behind Maric and Griffin). Nahas then runs past the ruck contest to outside the pack (as Hannath runs in to double team Maric) leaving the space open for Ballantyne to run into and kick the winning goal.
Just on this point about Hannath and Griffin double-teaming Maric, One-Eyed: There was some speculation on another forum that they were doing this for much of the game, with Hannath basically blocking Maric's run at the ball, which is apparently illegal, but the umpire's ignored it. I must admit, I can't put myself through the agony of watching the game again to verify these claims. I just wonder what your thoughts are: Do you recall any incidents of this happening? And can you clarify what the actual rule is regarding what ruckmen can do to negate each other at centre bounces/stoppages??
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The show didn't mention this but just as an aside re-looking at the vision, Nahas was in that space initially on his own in front of the ruck contest (everyone else was manned up expect for Hannath who was 2m behind Maric and Griffin). Nahas then runs past the ruck contest to outside the pack (as Hannath runs in to double team Maric) leaving the space open for Ballantyne to run into and kick the winning goal.
Just on this point about Hannath and Griffin double-teaming Maric, One-Eyed: There was some speculation on another forum that they were doing this for much of the game, with Hannath basically blocking Maric's run at the ball, which is apparently illegal, but the umpire's ignored it. I must admit, I can't put myself through the agony of watching the game again to verify these claims. I just wonder what your thoughts are: Do you recall any incidents of this happening? And can you clarify what the actual rule is regarding what ruckmen can do to negate each other at centre bounces/stoppages??
They were doing it all night, and even shepherding our forwards out of marking contests for the third man to intercept mark uncontested. .
The ruck rule is so cloudy. The third man up is allowed to be blocked but cannot block himself. So they would nominate the ruckman, in this case Hannath, who is allowed to lock in with Maric to 'contest' once the ball is thrown and allowing a third man to go up. We could have used somebody to block the third man but unless a ruck was nominated that third man could claim he was the designated ruck and blocked or illegally contacted. Teams like Sydney are using both Mumford and Pyke around the ground and not nominating who the ruckman is and milking blocking and illegal ruck contact frees, abusing the new rule. That's why this new rule is so crap. You have a bunch of blokes standing around a stoppage and unless the umpire asks or nominates rucks like in Auskick then it's going to keep getting abused.
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I see. Thanks Dwaino. It's amazing isn't it? Every time these instances come up of teams exploiting grey areas in the rules to negate players and gain an unfair advantage, how often it's either Fremantle or Sydney doing the infringing. And people wonder why I have no respect for Ross Lyon. If it was up to me there'd be a ban on anyone other the two competing ruckmen flying or grappling at any contest, and anybody who tried to block the competing ruckmen's run at the ball would be automatically pinged.
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The 'ruckman' from each duel should be made to just raise their hand to the umpire before a ball is thrown in or balled up as a silent affirmation that they are the ruck. Then again I'm probably just creating more rules to fix a rule that should never be changed. Sounds like the Cane Toad theory :shh
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Yep we now need a rule change to fix this years rule change. Then that will get exploited so we will need a new rule for 2015. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead FFS just go back to the 1897 rules and start again. Let the game evolve itself. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Further to this, and what you were saying about our forwards being shepherded out for the third man up to mark, this explains why Jack had such a quiet night. Also, Scott Watters made some complaints about Sydney players illegally shepherding his forwards out of the contest in Wellington. But he backpedalled at a million miles an hour On The Couch last night when Longmire laughed it off, and Healy, Sheahan and Roos (surprise, surprise) acted all aggrieved that anyone should question the AFL's Golden Geese.
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Yep we now need a rule change to fix this years rule change. Then that will get exploited so we will need a new rule for 2015. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead FFS just go back to the 1897 rules and start again. Let the game evolve itself. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Nope! What I'm saying is they shouldn't have changed the fricken rule in the first place. One ruck contest, two ruckmen jumping at each other from opposite points of the square. What could be more simple or perfect than that? They've just gone and created another grey area for scumbags like Lyon to exploit in his never ending quest to drag the game down into the mire. But if you think that's "evolution" then so be it.
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Further to this, and what you were saying about our forwards being shepherded out for the third man up to mark, this explains why Jack had such a quiet night. Also, Scott Watters made some complaints about Sydney players illegally shepherding his forwards out of the contest in Wellington. But he backpedalled at a million miles an hour On The Couch last night when Longmire laughed it off, and Healy, Sheahan and Roos (surprise, surprise) acted all aggrieved that anyone should question the AFL's Golden Geese.
It's illegal to shepherd someone out of a marking contest, so they're getting in front, guarding the drop zone and then the third man gets it at the highest point. The intention is still shepherding because the blocker doesn't even look like they are trying to contest the ball, they just dig in and hold their arms out (watch the Freo defenders against our marking forwards). Just abusing another grey area.
Yep we now need a rule change to fix this years rule change. Then that will get exploited so we will need a new rule for 2015. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead FFS just go back to the 1897 rules and start again. Let the game evolve itself. :banghead :banghead :banghead
This is my peeve. Let the game evolve naturally. Eade said himself last year teams were now finding ways out of the ugly press for example and it was catching on. But the AFL just knee jerks and leaves their dirty skid marks on the game instead.
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Yep we now need a rule change to fix this years rule change. Then that will get exploited so we will need a new rule for 2015. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead FFS just go back to the 1897 rules and start again. Let the game evolve itself. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Nope! What I'm saying is they shouldn't have changed the fricken rule in the first place. One ruck contest, two ruckmen jumping at each other from opposite points of the square. What could be more simple or perfect than that? They've just gone and created another grey area for scumbags like Lyon to exploit in his never ending quest to drag the game down into the mire. But if you think that's "evolution" then so be it.
That was my sarcastic way of saying that it shouldn't have been changed to start with. I agree with you. ;D
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There's a simple solution - only 2 men in a ruck contest and no ball ups, only throw ups. Ball ups provide a fair contest and then any interference at a stoppage becomes illegal.
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The show didn't mention this but just as an aside re-looking at the vision, Nahas was in that space initially on his own in front of the ruck contest (everyone else was manned up expect for Hannath who was 2m behind Maric and Griffin). Nahas then runs past the ruck contest to outside the pack (as Hannath runs in to double team Maric) leaving the space open for Ballantyne to run into and kick the winning goal.
Just on this point about Hannath and Griffin double-teaming Maric, One-Eyed: There was some speculation on another forum that they were doing this for much of the game, with Hannath basically blocking Maric's run at the ball, which is apparently illegal, but the umpire's ignored it. I must admit, I can't put myself through the agony of watching the game again to verify these claims. I just wonder what your thoughts are: Do you recall any incidents of this happening? And can you clarify what the actual rule is regarding what ruckmen can do to negate each other at centre bounces/stoppages??
They were doing it all night, and even shepherding our forwards out of marking contests for the third man to intercept mark uncontested. .
The ruck rule is so cloudy. The third man up is allowed to be blocked but cannot block himself. So they would nominate the ruckman, in this case Hannath, who is allowed to lock in with Maric to 'contest' once the ball is thrown and allowing a third man to go up. We could have used somebody to block the third man but unless a ruck was nominated that third man could claim he was the designated ruck and blocked or illegally contacted. Teams like Sydney are using both Mumford and Pyke around the ground and not nominating who the ruckman is and milking blocking and illegal ruck contact frees, abusing the new rule. That's why this new rule is so crap. You have a bunch of blokes standing around a stoppage and unless the umpire asks or nominates rucks like in Auskick then it's going to keep getting abused.
That pretty much sums up my thoughts dwaino.
The abuse of the third man up rule is what happened on Friday night. Even if you just look at just the stoppages after Whitey's goal up until Ballantyne goal, there were two-to-three instances of Maric being deliberately blocked/shepherded from going for the ball in the ruck contest which is illegal but the umps just let them all go :banghead. After the centre bounce after Whitey's goal, Cotch dives in and locks it up. At this subsequent ball-up, Hannath just locks into Maric while having his back to the ball-up and while also making no attempt to go for the ball, allowing his teammate Griffin to jump up on his own and tap it 20m forward for Fyfe to run on and kick it long into Freo's forward 50 where Rance does well to spoil to force a throw-in. At this throw-in, Maric is once again blocked from going for the ball by one Freo ruckman as the other gets a freebie hitout (you can see in the footage Ivan is demonstrating with the his arms out trying to attract the umpires' attention that he is being illegally shepherded). In the last throw-in after the ball hits the post, Griffin is level with Maric as the ball in thrown back in and Hannath comes from 2m behind to force a two-on-one ruck contest which sends the ball into the open space we stupidly left open for Ballatyne to run onto and goal.
Out of all those stoppages, only the last one was legal. The others are illegal blocking and Maric should have been paid a free kick each time for shepherding in the ruck. What Freo is doing with their two ruckmen is blatant cheating. The umps had and have the power to stop it in an instant but they did nothing about it on the night :banghead. In the old days, a coach or captain could go up to the umps at the breaks to question decisions/non-decisions but that's forbidden now as well ::). As for going through the "proper channels" after the game - what's the point when you've got a total moron in Gieschen with his head in the sand denying anything is wrong :facepalm.
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Good calls MT & dwaino
Do you think the fact that this season Maric seems to always looks at his opposing ruckman at ever centre square bounce and stoppage rather than the ball is causing the moronic umpires to keep an eye on that as opposed to watching for the blocks?
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I really noticed on Friday night Maric looking at his opponent especially at the stoppages
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In the old days, a coach or captain could go up to the umps at the breaks to question decisions/non-decisions but that's forbidden now as well ::). As for going through the "proper channels" after the game - what's the point when you've got a total moron in Gieschen with his head in the sand denying anything is wrong :facepalm.
Amazing isn't it? In rugby the Captain can have a civil discussion with the refs regarding decisions, indiscretions, interpretations etc. so both the players and the officials stay on the same page with what's happening in the game.
In AFL umpires call players by their first names like they are children and any form of conversation is considered dissent and a 50m penalty or even a fine. And they wonder why they are considered maggots.
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Maybe we should be playing two actual ruckmen + Vickery
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Gaddy put Missy Lloyd back in her box.
funny as. :lol
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Maybe we should be playing two actual ruckmen + Vickery
I've been saying that for 12 months. Play Vickery as a forward who can ruck if needed.
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Maybe we should be playing two actual ruckmen + Vickery
I've been saying that for 12 months. Play Vickery as a forward who can ruck if needed.
So it's your fault. Thanks for owning up ;D
Had Ivvy, Borry and Vicks in my side in the changes thread this week, I'll bump it so I can pat myself
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:lol
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Maybe we should be playing two actual ruckmen + Vickery
I've been saying that for 12 months. Play Vickery as a forward who can ruck if needed.
So it's your fault. Thanks for owning up ;D
Had Ivvy, Borry and Vicks in my side in the changes thread this week, I'll bump it so I can pat myself
Just don't call him a secret or the weapon please
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Tonight they first looked at Cotchin. Out of the top 20 possession getters in the AFL, Cotch is 20th for disposals efficiency, 4th in clangers and 20th in goals (kicked 0.4 for the year). Lyon wondered if the captaincy is getting to him as is 3 losses on the trot. The showed the free Cotch gave away to Steve Johnson for pushing Johnson right in the front of the umpire when we were 52-33 up. Lyon said Richmond players have got to relax as they haven't been bad in the 3 losses. Newman another one who was out of character with the undiscipline stuff.
Lloyd stating the obvious said it's a big game this week against Port in Adelaide after 3 straight losses. I think it was Lyon who said we'll win. Hutchy said the draw now opens up for Richmond.
Caro mentioned our end of quarters have been dreadful this year. It wasn't the 3rd qtr but the end of the 2nd qtr that was a disaster for Richmond. They then went through each of the 4 goals Geelong got - Cotch's free on Johnson, Houli poor on Stokes and then Morris went the wrong side opening up the goal for Geelong, 3rd goal was due to no one filling in the space in front of the direct lead while the 4th was due to losing a contest on the wing and allowing Cat players to get goal side in numbers.
Nathan Brown gave Deledio worst on ground after the game. When Lids came on the Sunday footy show, Hutch and Lloyd claimed Lids was ticked off with Browny who he considered a friend as a former teammate. Lloyd said Lids was the flatest looking player who has ever come onto the show. Hutchy said that's good. They (Richmond players) are showing they don't like losing and having poor games. Lyon said it's another example that the pressure might be getting to a few Tigers. Lyon said Deledio shouldn't worry as Dimma was happy with him after the Freo game. 1-2 bad games isn't the end of the world.
Lyon said Richmond are still in the developing stage and it's all part of the learning process.
According to Lyon
Maric is 50/50 for this week
Vickery is still to be assessed.
Grimes is 50/50 with a foot
Petterd will miss with a calf.
Caro added that she thinks the first two will play but that Lyon may be right about the latter two (ie. the could both miss the Port game).
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Tonight they first looked at Cotchin. Out of the top 20 possession getters in the AFL, Cotch is 20th for disposals efficiency, 4th in clangers and 20th in goals (kicked 0.4 for the year). Lyon wondered if the captaincy is getting to him as is 3 losses on the trot. The showed the free Cotch gave away to Steve Johnson for pushing Johnson right in the front of the umpire when we were 52-33 up. Lyon said Richmond players have got to relax as they haven't been bad in the 3 losses. Newman another one who was out of character with the undiscipline stuff.
Lloyd stating the obvious said it's a big game this week against Port in Adelaide after 3 straight losses. I think it was Lyon who said we'll win. Hutchy said the draw now opens up for Richmond.
Caro mentioned our end of quarters have been dreadful this year. It wasn't the 3rd qtr but the end of the 2nd qtr that was a disaster for Richmond. They then went through each of the 4 goals Geelong got - Cotch's free on Johnson, Houli poor on Stokes and then Morris went the wrong side opening up the goal for Geelong, 3rd goal was due to no one filling in the space in front of the direct lead while the 4th was due to losing a contest on the wing and allowing Cat players to get goal side in numbers.
Nathan Brown gave Deledio worst on ground after the game. When Lids came on the Sunday footy show, Hutch and Lloyd claimed Lids was ticked off with Browny who he considered a friend as a former teammate. Lloyd said Lids was the flatest looking player who has ever come onto the show. Hutchy said that's good. They (Richmond players) are showing they don't like losing and having poor games. Lyon said it's another example that the pressure might be getting to a few Tigers. Lyon said Deledio shouldn't worry as Dimma was happy with him after the Freo game. 1-2 bad games isn't the end of the world.
Lyon said Richmond are still in the developing stage and it's all part of the learning process.
According to Lyon
Maric is 50/50 for this week (I think Caro chipped in the end to say he might play).
Vickery is still to be assessed.
Grimes will probably miss with a foot
Petterd will miss with a calf.
I think Hutchy said something like " you can tell the really want it" meaning I think the success.
Gaddy said we need to relax, are we playing too uptight/wound up.
Velvet Sledge hammer has Dermies disease, he smirks when he talks.
He is a dill, round one states that perhaps the bullies are better than he thought because they beat the bears...oops the Lions, this week he is all over like a rash, these ex footballers as commentators are idiots.
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They also showed Cotch getting a clearance from stoppage on the wing while matched up against Selwood and then Cotch running forward to try and rove any ball spill at the next contest. Selwood stayed where he was expecting his teammate to take the mark over Kingy. So the result is Selwood ends up with the ball passed to him in the middle of the ground with Cotch backtracking 15m behind him. Lyon said it was an example of Selwood's smarts judging who would win the contest.
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They also showed Cotch getting a clearance from stoppage on the wing while matched up against Selwood and then Cotch running forward to try and rove any ball spill at the next contest. Selwood stayed where he was expecting his teammate to take the mark over Kingy. So the result is Selwood ends up with the ball passed to him in the middle of the ground with Cotch backtracking 15m behind him. Lyon said it was an example of Selwood's smarts judging who would win the contest.
Example of Selwood being lazy and getting away with it.
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Lol
Gazza lives to bag us
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Lyon wondered if the captaincy is getting to him as is 3 losses on the trot.
Did they talk about how Jack Trengove is handling the captaincy :lol
6 disposals, 2 marks and 3 tackles for the game :lol
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Lyon and Hutchy said they are going to discuss tonight "if Richmond are flat track bullies".
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Hutchy needs to STFU with his "they're gonna make the 8" "they'll finish 6th or 7th"
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Lyon started off saying the poor skills of years past reared their ugly head again on Saturday night when you thought Richmond were past that.
Lloyd said if you stop Houli delivering the ball out of the backline and put pressure on their defence, you know Richmond will continually turn the ball over. Close down Deledio and you beat Richmond. As an opposition you would have loved to have seen Deledio's reaction earlier in the year to a tag.
They then put up a graphic of Lids, Cotch, Dusty and Jack's average numbers when we win and when we lose. Effectively the 3 mids have 6 less possies per game (26 -> 20) and Jack's goal output is halved (5 -> 2.3) when we lose. Lloyd said Richmond can't win without all of their top 4 players playing well. That's a reflection that their list isn't good enough yet.
They asked the question whether with our trades we've created a list that can finish 8th rather than one that can win a flag? Lyon said you've got to learn to crawl before you can walk. Many a club has made the mistake of jumping too high (ed. reckon he was thinking of his own Dees).
Hutchy still believes with our draw we'll finish 6th or 7th. Lloyd doesn't see us playing finals with Caro basically in agreement saying Saturday night was a major step back for Richmond. She said as a Richmond supporter you'd be bitterly disappointed. The dreamtime game was set up for Richmond with a record crowd, $$$ for the club and all but sadly Richmond on the big stage again were tentative and terrible. They got smashed in the midfield [they showed clip after clip of us being outmuscled and out-contested off the ball]. Caro added that Jack Riewoldt looked like he was up for a big game but they just didn't get the ball down to him enough. Instead of going forward quickly to Jack, the Tigers went sideways and backwards.
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Can't disagree with any of that.
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Especially about our "entry" (and I use that term loosely) into our forward 50 :banghead
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Didn't take the game on. Too scared to make mistakes. Reason for this was simple - the players who were 'allowed' to get the ball (weren't tagged into submission) were either new to the club and trying not to make mistakes and thus keep their spots in the team or were poor ball users. So as a result they continually chose the safe option instead of taking the risk of running it down the middle and create overlap.
I disagree about the trades. Critics keep pointing to this decision whenever we lose a game. The facts remain that these players cost us nothing and are for depth/backup only. The only exceptions to this are/were Chaplin and Knights who again cost us nothing. What did we lose by getting these players - no a thing.
Some people are suggesting that they are taking the place of a young player. I would say that they are only taking 'their spot' until they force them out of it with good form. Most of our young talent are either still too undeveloped and should not be rushed in. Others are only just performing and are not knocking down any doors yet. In the case of these players, give them a chance when a spot opens up but not just because they are young - sends a bad message. Spots should be earned and retained with good form not promise.
Other than that I have to agree with everything else they said unfortunately. :'(
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The issue for me Stripes is Arnot and Helbig have actually had better form than Lonergan. What kind of message is that for those 2 guys? They are both big enough to look after themselves at AFL level. What are the chances Petterd comes straight back in even though Dea is playing good footy. To me that is sending a worse message to these kids. If I was Matty Dea I'd be asking for a trade. Likewise Astbury who should be getting a chance. Also, wouldn't surprise if Griff wanted to leave with the way he has been developed lately. Thrown back and forward then back and forward again and that's just during the one game. >:(
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The issue for me Stripes is Arnot and Helbig have actually had better form than Lonergan. What kind of message is that for those 2 guys? They are both big enough to look after themselves at AFL level. What are the chances Petterd comes straight back in even though Dea is playing good footy. To me that is sending a worse message to these kids. If I was Matty Dea I'd be asking for a trade. Likewise Astbury who should be getting a chance. Also, wouldn't surprise if Griff wanted to leave with the way he has been developed lately. Thrown back and forward then back and forward again and that's just during the one game. >:(
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biggest single most issue i have with the club.
rewarding medicority and not developing our younger players.
How Lonergan got selected ahead of any of those players you mentioned were pathetic. Those decisions will surely see him out of a job and rightly so.
His coaching is becoming Spud like. Nice guy but the mistakes are mounting and i cant see him being in the job in 12 months if we dont make finals.
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The issue for me Stripes is Arnot and Helbig have actually had better form than Lonergan. What kind of message is that for those 2 guys? They are both big enough to look after themselves at AFL level. What are the chances Petterd comes straight back in even though Dea is playing good footy. To me that is sending a worse message to these kids. If I was Matty Dea I'd be asking for a trade. Likewise Astbury who should be getting a chance. Also, wouldn't surprise if Griff wanted to leave with the way he has been developed lately. Thrown back and forward then back and forward again and that's just during the one game. >:(
Can't argue there tiges. Lonegan has done nothing to suggest he should get a game ahead of the other two other than being brought to the club as a mature aged midfielder. The fact we were lining up against the Dons had a big influence also I feel. I think you're right about Petterd and Dea too. Petterd hasn't shown more than Dea so that should be a simple call.
Astbury and Griff though need to earn their spots. Neither has a Coburg so far. This week perhaps one will get a gig - Griff probably given the height of the WC forwards and size of the ground where his hoof can come into play. Batch can't keep playing tall and needs to run the ball out of defense when he has an opportunity. Grimes is a big loss in this regard.
In regards to Griff - I don't think they are mucking him around. More-so I feel the Coburg coach is. I think the message is that this year you are learning the art of defense but will be transitioned into attack as the year progresses and over the preseason. Many clubs choose to develop their tall forwards in this manner so I don't think it is mixed messages so much as the VFL coach trying to use him to clog holes. I do agree though that this hasn't helped him with his game this year and should be locked down as a forward now and kept their. The problem for Griff though is that our depth is thin in defense now with Grimes going down and no one else stepping up. I think this has also delayed the move.
Good conversation to have though tiges! :thumbsup
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Astbury and Griff though need to earn their spots. Neither has a Coburg so far. This week perhaps one will get a gig - Griff probably given the height of the WC forwards and size of the ground where his hoof can come into play. Batch can't keep playing tall and needs to run the ball out of defense when he has an opportunity. Grimes is a big loss in this regard.
In regards to Griff - I don't think they are mucking him around. More-so I feel the Coburg coach is. I think the message is that this year you are learning the art of defense but will be transitioned into attack as the year progresses and over the preseason. Many clubs choose to develop their tall forwards in this manner so I don't think it is mixed messages so much as the VFL coach trying to use him to clog holes. I do agree though that this hasn't helped him with his game this year and should be locked down as a forward now and kept their. The problem for Griff though is that our depth is thin in defense now with Grimes going down and no one else stepping up. I think this has also delayed the move.
Good conversation to have though tiges! :thumbsup
I think Astbury played a good game on the weekend and apparently week before was solid as well. Good and solid in that backline is a good effort. He's probably the one more deserving of a game at his stage. Also, I think Astbury is the one who should play defence. Had a really good game on Hurley in NAB Cup before getting injured too.
In regards to Griff's development. The funny thing is that the Coburg coach is now a Richmond coach. Don't get me wrong I was supportive of them playing him down back as a teaching tool. Was also supportive of them if they wanted to keep him as a defender but they seem to have decided to try him forward which IMO is his best spot. But just leave him deep forward, leading from the square for whole games. I don't think Griff should come in yet. Maybe the Doggies game and Saints game would give him a chance to beat a smaller, weaker defence and feel like he belongs at the level rather than getting flogged by McKenzie, Glass.
I'd be looking at maybe Astbury, Dea, Helbig in this week. Anymore than 3 and it's becoming a bit unstable unless a best 22 player like Conca made up a 4th change.
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Reckon you could make a case for any of the young guys, but IMO Arnot is the stiffest non-selection to date. I'm usually one to back the club in and trust their decisions, but to chose Lonergan who has done diddly squat over someone like Arnot is a dead set howler. This year the bloke's poor games haven't been far behind his good games and a taste of the big time might soothe that temper a little. Is physically capable and couldn't possibly do anything else to prove he deserves a game.
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Reckon you could make a case for any of the young guys, but IMO Arnot is the stiffest non-selection to date. I'm usually one to back the club in and trust their decisions, but to chose Lonergan who has done diddly squat over someone like Arnot is a dead set howler. This year the bloke's poor games haven't been far behind his good games and a taste of the big time might soothe that temper a little. Is physically capable and couldn't possibly do anything else to prove he deserves a game.
:clapping yesss big man. Joke. Not sold on his skill level though. Better than Lonergan's though. 14 ineffective disposals out of 20 and gets promoted. Well earnt mate well earnt. :clapping
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Especially about our "entry" (and I use that term loosely) into our forward 50 :banghead
Akin to a sand wedge from the middle of the fairway
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They played tonight a radio clip of Hird saying that Gieschen rang him up a few weeks ago to tell him the umpiring would be different and then the umpires in the Dreamtime game went into the Essendon rooms pre-game to tell the Bombers they would only be paying clear cut free kicks that night and would let the rest go.
You would hope we were given the same courtesy prior to the game.
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How quaint of them. And yet the week before we couldn't breath on someone without giving away a free. This is how they stuff with us. They set us up to play soft, so we are too scared to act for giving frees away then tell the bummers to go hog wild LOL
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Gary Lyon trying to ask tough questions of Neeld about players. He should of asked what he see's the future of these players before he appointed him.
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Good ol' Lloydy reckons GWS should offer Jack the same amount of cash as Buddy ($1 million p.a.) to poach him ::).
Caro repeated that Richmond won't pay what Jack wants even though she doesn't know the dollar amounts involved and as a "Richmond person" she is afraid of GWS circling. She added Richmond under Dan Richardson want to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past when the handed over big $$$ to Richo, Cambo, Daffy and Knights to keep them even when the team was failed onfield. Effectively pushing the Geelong model of the playing group taking collective cuts to keep the team together. Caro brought up Leigh Matthews showing the Brisbane players a photo of the Hawthorn sides of the 80s and how they stuck together and became known as champion players. She reckons we overpaid to keep Dusty. Hutchy's response was that GWS's interest in Jack is a red herring as they already have Cameron and Patton and will gain Boyd in this year's draft.
As for us actually winning on the weekend, the only mention of that was about Lids not being tagged and Lyon saying he knew it was game over as soon as Lids, loose on his own across HB, marked the Adelaide clearance from the first bounce of the game. Lyon also said when talking to Caro about contracts that Richmond looks like finally playing finals for the first time in a long time.
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The 4 amigos are on tonight from 10.45pm.
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The 4 amigos are on tonight from 10.45pm.
Thanks cyclops, I was watching old school. But how can I resist Caro and damo :lol
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You could always take Caro to Bed, Bath & Beyond. ;D
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This show is simply horrendous. Has there ever been a more irritating panel than this assortment of tools?
They are lucky that Melbourne footy fans will watch anything footy related.
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Tonight's segment on the Tigers:
Caro still sees us as vulnerable as far as dropping out. She says we've still shown our mental fragility at times during the season. Looking at our draw she sees 'only' 3 'certain' wins - St Kilda, Brisbane and GWS. She says North always play well against Richmond, Gold Coast has beaten Richmond on both occasions in Cairns and although Richmond beat Carlton in round 1 it'll be a tough game against the Blues. Freo, Hawthorn and Sydney will be tough to win on current form. So all up that'll only give Richmond 11 wins.
Lloyd replied that we will make the Eight. He said at the start of the year that Richmond won't make the finals but he's changed his mind now. Richmond is too good a side to miss the finals. The midfield depth will be what carries Richmond this year. Lyon agreed. They both mentioned the additions of Houli (Lloyd said a mistake by Essendon), Grigg (Collins isn't playing so a great trade for Richmond), Conca (showing why he was taken so early in the draft).
Barrett repeated we've lost badly to the top sides. Caro replied there was a one point loss to Freo in Perth but the losses to the Pies, Cats and Bombers were bad. Caro finished with saying that we were more likely than unlikely to make the finals.
Caro didn't like Kingy having a go at Goodes on the weekend about ducking. This stems from Jack's free from ducking last week against the Crows and Rob Murphy criticizing it midweek.
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On other thing from last night's show - we have the 6th best defence in the league in terms of points conceded per game.
Pts con. Ladder pos.
Frementle 67 3
Sydney 77 5
Essendon 80 4
Port Adel. 82 8
Hawthorn 83 1
Richmond 84 6
Carlton 86 9
Coll'wood 89 7
Adelaide 89 11
North Melb. 92 13
Geelong 92 2
West Coast 93 10
Gold Coast 93 12
Lloyd reckons Geelong won't win the flag because they are conceding too many points playing Russian roulette footy. The rest of the top sides (including us) have the best defensive records. As the old saying you need the best defence to win the flag.
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Jack ducked to milk the new stupid rules after he already had the ball.
Goodes ducked before the ball was anywhere near him cause he is a girl.
come on caro
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Jack definitely doesn't mind playing for free kicks occasionally, but I reckon on that occasion he was trying to evade by slipping back under that bloke. I think he was surprised he got that free.
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Anyone got footage of Jacks duck, I can't remember it
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Late in the second quarter was either our 8th or 9th goal Punt Rd End.
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Late in the second quarter was either our 8th or 9th goal Punt Rd End.
Thanks :thumbsup
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Caro just being a deeply scarred Tigers supporter (never allowing their hopes or expectations to rise too much only to be hurt later). We're not a given but are a good chance now.
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Caro just being a deeply scarred Tigers supporter (never allowing their hopes or expectations to rise too much only to be hurt later). We're not a given but are a good chance now.
We are still one loss away to a St Kilda, Nought, Gold Coast and this place will be in meltdown again.
Finals will once again be a taboo word that happens anywhere but Punt Rd. :shh
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it'll happen. We will most probably drop at least one game we are expected to win
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We may win one expected to lose 8)
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not discounting that at all. hoping for it but not quite expecting it.
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North will take it too us and Gold Coast have only improved still last years loss. Saying that - I expect to win both games and the Saints game. We are a different team with the midfield depth now to beat most teams :gotigers Finals here we come :thumbsup
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When we get to 13 wins, then I will say finals here we come, not before ;D
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not sure how we can compete against gold coast without webberley and graham
thank **** we still have derickx, hopefully we catch them on a bad day :pray
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When we get to 13 wins, then I will say finals here we come, not before ;D
Well said! :clapping
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The only Richmond discussion on last night's show was a Good Call/Bad Call question about Aaron Edwards and if he's resurrected his career at Punt Rd? Lyon said it's too early to tell yet as Edwards has shown in past that he can have one good game once in a while and then going missing against the top sides.
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Surprise surprise they (Lyon, Hutchy, Lloyd and Barrett) are going to spend time tonight talking about our "capitulation" on the weekend yet we hardly got a mention over the past 4 weeks while we were winning :whistle.
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How much time will be spent on Carltons equally as worse effort?
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How much time will be spent on Carltons equally as worse effort?
Actually they've been talking about them for about 15 mins already
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Barrett said Carlton should chase Jack Riewoldt ::).
Hutchy replied the horse has bolted on that front and Jack will re-sign with Richmond soon.
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How much time will be spent on Carltons equally as worse effort?
Actually they've been talking about them for about 15 mins already
Fair enough then!
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On Richmond ....
* Lyon said Richmond were either out-coached or the players were just dumb against North. Hansen was just allowed to play loose man in defence and marked everything coming in. Richmond at one stage went inside forward 50 20 times long and only two short. Lloyd said that last stat says it was the players being dumb.
* Cotch's influence and output is down this year after a near-Brownlow season last year.
2012 2013
Disposals 370 330
Goals 13 3
Tackles 70 42
Clearances 66 46
Cont. poss. 6 3
Inside 50s 8 3
* Lyon said the odd thing is Cotch isn't copping the main hard tag. It's Deledio who cops the tag.
* Lloyd said Lids needs to get aggressive. Judd and Ablett get aggressive so it becomes pointless tagging them. Lloyd said Lids waves the white flag too easily.
* Lyon said there's too many "arm flappers" at Richmond when things are going wrong. Complaining to umps and demonstrating towards teammates. Lyon added that Richmond regressed over the weekend and it's perfect ammo for Dimma to straighten them up. Lyon still believes we will play finals.
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* Lyon said there's too many "arm flappers" at Richmond when things are going wrong. Complaining to umps and demonstrating towards teammates. Lyon added that Richmond regressed over the weekend and it's perfect ammo for Dimma to straighten them up.
Agree about the "arm flappers" (sadly), we have alot of them and a couple of blokes that do it shouldn't they should concentrate on their own games
Lyon still believes we will play finals.
Gee I feel better ;D
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
And who's Lid's coach (our midfield coach?) Lids has always struggled with a tag, you'd think that would've been a priority over the pre-season. We need to be constantly improving the skills of players.
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
You may be right and he might need a clean up. If so they should've done it just before the bye. He would've been back by now.
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Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
Although I agree about the knee problem (should never played against Geelong :banghead) I reckon his numbers in the first 4 rounds only show he got a lot of the ball. They don't necessarily show how poor his disposal was at times eg the dinkly little chip passes to team mates under pressure, etc
Personally and I've said it before I think he is struggling with the captainancy, that is trying too hard to be captain, the leader and it is effecting his form. He should just play like he did last year, no need to change anything on field IMHO
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
You may be right and he might need a clean up. If so they should've done it just before the bye. He would've been back by now.
It won't be a surprise if he is goes in for a clean up of that knee at the end of the season. He still got 25 possies & 6 tackles against North on the weekend so he won't stop playing now. Actually it was statistically Cotch's best output since round 5 even though the team got flogged by 10 goals.
Edit: True WP. His kicking efficiency has been off this year. Having said that that fact he isn't getting as much of the ball as prior to knee injury seems to be a sign he is likely carrying an injury that is hampering his running power and ability to get to as many contests as well as get free into space.
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
You may be right and he might need a clean up. If so they should've done it just before the bye. He would've been back by now.
It won't be a surprise if he is goes in for a clean up of that knee at the end of the season. He still got 25 possies & 6 tackles against North on the weekend so he won't stop playing now. Actually it was statistically Cotch's best output since round 5 even though the team got flogged by 10 goals.
Edit: True WP. His kicking efficiency has been off this year. Having said that that fact he isn't getting as much of the ball as prior to knee injury seems to be a sign he is likely carrying an injury that is hampering his running power and ability to get to as many contests as well as get free into space.
Just heard Cotchin's media conference today and he said he is not carrying a knee and doesn't know why everyone keeps saying that.
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Everyone keeps saying it because he plays like poo.
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Form dropped right off when he did the Age interview, stating he would retire in his 20's after winning a flag.
His heart's not in it.
Something happened......
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Everyone keeps saying it because he plays like poo.
Yep
Forms been average, so the media goes looking for reasons
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Form dropped right off when he did the Age interview, stating he would retire in his 20's after winning a flag.
His heart's not in it.
Something happened......
Why would he take the captaincy then?
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Cotchin’s form has not been as strong as last season. He is down in most statistical categories at this point of the season compared to last year. This includes goals (13 last year, three this season), tackles (70 to 42), inside 50s (66 to 46) and disposals (370 to 330).
Commentator Garry Lyon says Cotchin, runner-up in the Brownlow last year, is not influencing matches as he once was and is not attracting the No.1 tagger, with teammate Brett Deledio facing that increased pressure.
Cotchin denied he was battling a lingering knee injury, but admitted he was keen to win more of the ball.
‘‘That [goal kicking] is probably down in comparison to last year and I’m not giving myself as much opportunity,’’ he said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/cotchin-calls-on-star-duo-to-commit-20130709-2po4l.html#ixzz2YX4YALiv
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Form dropped right off when he did the Age interview, stating he would retire in his 20's after winning a flag.
His heart's not in it.
Something happened......
Why would he take the captaincy then?
So he can tell his kids he was captain??
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
Thats exactly how i saw it , must be more than a coincidence that in R5 he suffered what looked at the time to be a season ending injury and has been no more than 80% since ::)
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
According to Cotch it's healed and is at 100%
If you cross the line and play you're saying you are "100%" but that doesn't mean players aren't carrying injuries or at least niggles.
Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
Thats exactly how i saw it , must be more than a coincidence that in R5 he suffered what looked at the time to be a season ending injury and has been no more than 80% since ::)
Yep it's a big 'coincidence'. I would doubt Cotch would say he was carrying an injury/niggle anyway even if he was.
Remember when Jack looked like he was playing injured (in 2011 IIRC) when he could hardly fly for marks. The Club denied he was playing injured and said Jack just had to learn to play through niggles like any other footballer.
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It's obvious Cotchin's output is down on last season, is he carrying an injury?
Cotch hasn't been fully right since the Freo game when a Docker went across his knee.
Agree 100%. Did anyone pick up Cotch hurting his leg in the 4th qtr? He was down for a little bit, then got up hunched over and held his knee for a while. The ball came his way and he didn't move at all just stood and couldn't put weight on his knee. He walked it off and limped off the ground.
He came back on and looked OK but he's definitely carrying something.
In his press conference today he said he isn't carrying anything and not sure why people keep asking it.
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Cotch's disposal output in the first 4 rounds was 33, 31, 36 & 27. It's been down since the Freo game in round 5 when he copped that knee injury.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1845
Although I agree about the knee problem (should never played against Geelong :banghead) I reckon his numbers in the first 4 rounds only show he got a lot of the ball. They don't necessarily show how poor his disposal was at times eg the dinkly little chip passes to team mates under pressure, etc
Personally and I've said it before I think he is struggling with the captainancy, that is trying too hard to be captain, the leader and it is effecting his form. He should just play like he did last year, no need to change anything on field IMHO
There is a big difference though, being a stand in captain or a vice captain compared to being the captain of a club, arguably the 2nd biggest in the AFL and one of 60,000 starving members.
He's doing a stack of media and the pressure intensifies. He's also dealing with younger guys coming through and most likely mentoring them as well which is another burden.
Would be very few players who have been given the captaincy and have been dominant in their first year. There is a lot to adjust too.
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He is the playing face of a club that has not made finals in 12 years.Furthermore he is just a 22 year old kid who finished 2nd in the Brownlow with 26 votes and is captain of a huge Melbourne club.
If he is not carrying an injury I expect that if we beat GC this week and win one of Freo, Sydney or Haw meaning we are virtually in finals his August to get us over the line will be supreme. It's as if he is playing too cautiously which has hindered him no end.
His last 2-3 games he has been showing signs of improved form and I expect that to continue. The script is perfect for him to have a big one this weekend and have a captains game that gets his side over the line. About time in 2013 too. :thumbsup
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There is a big difference though, being a stand in captain or a vice captain compared to being the captain of a club, arguably the 2nd biggest in the AFL and one of 60,000 starving members.
He's doing a stack of media and the pressure intensifies. He's also dealing with younger guys coming through and most likely mentoring them as well which is another burden.
Would be very few players who have been given the captaincy and have been dominant in their first year. There is a lot to adjust too.
All fair points but the reason he was made captain at such a young age was because of the way he played. His actions on the field personifies leadership so IMHO he doesn't/didn't need to change the way he played/plays.
I just think he is trying too hard to do all the things you speak of on the field when he doesn't need to. His natural ability and natural leadership ensures he does it, doesn't need to try to do it or increase the level of it
As for the off field stuff he has actually said he enjoys it so I don't think that has had much of an impact
As for other young captain of a similar age who have continued to dominate after ei made captain - Joel Selwood and before that Wayne Carey spring to mind. Selwood has not change the way he plays, the way plays is what leads his team mates
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Why are we winning more this year then, with Cotch down on form and Lids getting the hard tag and waving the white flag too easily (to paraphrase Lyon)?
Is it just an easy draw we've had?
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He is the playing face of a club that has not made finals in 12 years.Furthermore he is just a 22 year old kid who finished 2nd in the Brownlow with 26 votes and is captain of a huge Melbourne club.
If he is not carrying an injury I expect that if we beat GC this week and win one of Freo, Sydney or Haw meaning we are virtually in finals his August to get us over the line will be supreme. It's as if he is playing too cautiously which has hindered him no end.
His last 2-3 games he has been showing signs of improved form and I expect that to continue. The script is perfect for him to have a big one this weekend and have a captains game that gets his side over the line. About time in 2013 too. :thumbsup
Agree, his last 2 games have been a few shades better than what was dished up the previous month
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Hardly any Richmond talk so we must have won on the weekend.
Only the obligatory Good Call/Bad Call question - "Was the Cairns deal the worst decision Brendon Gale has made so far as Richmond CEO?". Caro said Benny Gale has been great for Richmond and done a number of good things but the Cairns deal was a shocker. She also claimed Dimma said at the end of the game something like "Thank god we don't have to come up here anymore".
The only other thing about Richmond was when they put up a graphic about Geelong having 71 inside forward 50 tackles in their past 3 games. We along with Sydney were equal 2nd over the past 3 weeks with 41 inside forward 50 tackles.
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So it was Gale's fault Dimma and the players couldn't get past a team of 18 year olds two years in a row? lmfao
What a bunch of worthless clueless tossers
Should have been an easy 12 points and 1.5 mill in the kitty – one of Gale's better decisions FFS
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In all honesty - what did a couple of extra wins matter in the past 2 years? We may not have picked up Ellis or Vlastuin if we had of won.
In fact, I think that the club learned more out of last year's loss (and the repeat performance resulting in the Freo loss this year) than they would have out of a meaningless win.
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In all honesty - what did a couple of extra wins matter in the past 2 years? We may not have picked up Ellis or Vlastuin if we had of won.
In fact, I think that the club learned more out of last year's loss (and the repeat performance resulting in the Freo loss this year) than they would have out of a meaningless win.
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So it was Gale's fault Dimma and the players couldn't get past a team of 18 year olds two years in a row? lmfao
What a bunch of worthless clueless tossers
Should have been an easy 12 points and 1.5 mill in the kitty – one of Gale's better decisions FFS
Well said.
Never should have lost those games and 1.5 mill (2 mill including Darwin) has set our club up to be a power house of the competition. If the muppets on the field the last 2 years had won the games they'd be calling Gale a genius for getting 2 million for 4 wins. ::)
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In all honesty - what did a couple of extra wins matter in the past 2 years? We may not have picked up Ellis or Vlastuin if we had of won.
In fact, I think that the club learned more out of last year's loss (and the repeat performance resulting in the Freo loss this year) than they would have out of a meaningless win.
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X3
The footy tried to wreck the first 2 trips but all in all I will miss going up for a mid year break.
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In all honesty - what did a couple of extra wins matter in the past 2 years? We may not have picked up Ellis or Vlastuin if we had of won.
In fact, I think that the club learned more out of last year's loss (and the repeat performance resulting in the Freo loss this year) than they would have out of a meaningless win.
For me the other flipside is after our narrow loss to GCS last year, it would've played in the minds of the players during the narrow loss to Carlton as well. I'm by no means a psychic/clairvoyant but I feel that if we defeated GCS, we would've beaten Carlton and consequently would've made finals and Chris Newman wouldn't have been bawling his eyes out in the changerooms.
That being said though, we most likely wouldn't of got Vlastuin finishing 8th. But I suppose we could've got Brodie Grundy?
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Someone should tap Caro on the shoulder and tell her shes on Footy Classified not Petticoat Junction
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id luv to tap caro on the shoulder..........
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id luv to tap caro..........
EFA
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id luv to tap caro on the shoulder..........
Oh my :-[
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she's doing a great job with the drug cheats.
Relentless journalism :cheers
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Barrett tonight said Jack is very close to re-signing and there's a strong chance he'll publicly announce his commitment to Richmond within a fortnight. This is despite a massive offer from Freo that is $200-250k above our offer.
Hutchy reckons Freo should go to Pavlich, Sandilands and McPharlin and ask for them to take a $100k pay cut on the promise of going all guns blazing to win their first flag next year and bump the offer to Jack up to $1.1m per year; essentially a Godfather offer.
Caro said Jack is so inextricably a Tiger he won't leave. There are some things an extra $250k can't buy and Jack knows he will be revered up there with Richo after a 12 year one-club career with the Tigers.
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The Richmond good call/bad call question tonight was "Should Martin re-sign with the Tigers?". Caro said Dusty owes a lot to the Richmond Football Club and he's just asking for too much money.
On us specifically, Hutchy said his "Richmond to finish top 4" prediction is now not out of the question. Caro said it's a possibility but she doesn't believe we'll make it whereas Lloyd said with Sydney, Hawthorn and Essendon to come we won't make the top 4.
Hutchy also said we've had an easy draw this year similar to Adelaide's last year. Caro replied it hasn't been that easy and that at the start of the year two trips to Perth in quick succession followed by playing Adelaide was seen as a tough draw. It's only changed now as these teams we thought would finish high up have fallen away. She also said Richmond only play GWS and Melbourne once.
Caro said Sunday was our best win for the year; up with the win over West Coast in Perth.
Lloyd was critical of Deledio still not being able to break a tag. They showed a graphic where against the best taggers from Essendon (Hocking), Freo (Crowley), etc Lids' contested possies wouldn't change that much but his uncontested possies drop away dramatically. Caro tried to defend Lids on the weekend saying he hurt Crowley at times especially in the last quarter and that Lids took Crowley out of the game which freed up Cotchin and Martin. Lloyd said it's Crowley's job as the tagger to take Deledio out of the game not the other way around.
Lloyd praised Cotch's game. He said Cotch has had a poor year by his lofty standards and so Richmond and Cotch has plenty of upside if Cotch can now reproduce the form on the weekend.
Lloyd also put up another graphic with the clubs with the best taggers in the AFL and Daniel Jackson (Richmond) was one of them. Collingwood doesn't have a tagger so Ablett cut loose whereas the week before he was well held by Jackson.
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Caro in her Arrow fired back at Eddie McGuire after he said she called for Gary March's head on fox footy after our game on Sunday.
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Caro in her Arrow fired back at Eddie McGuire after he said she called for Gary March's head on fox footy after our game on Sunday.
Yes she accused Eddie of being tired and rundown and as a result he's making mistakes and false comments. She reckons Eddie mixed her up with another journo and club. Barrett chimed in in the background while Caro was talking that it may have been him who made the call back in a day for Gary March's head. Caro read out a list of headlines from her articles from 2007 onwards which were supportive of March.
Eddie could have been referring to Caro backing the alternative "Big 4" ticket way back in the 2004 club elections that was up against Clinton Casey's board (Gary March was VP at the time from memory).
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Did Lloyd watch Lids or just check the stat sheet? Lids goes in centre bounce and that hack Crowley eats up a midfield spot away from a gun mid like Fyfe/Mundy etc then Lids runs to FF and takes Crowley out of his comfort zone. 15 possies for a FF ain't that bad.
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Lloyd said with Sydney, Hawthorn and Essendon to come we won't make the top 4.
Alternatively dumbass, if we beat all 3, we're well placed, particularly if your Bummer cheats get stripped of their points for the season.
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Did Lloyd watch Lids or just check the stat sheet? Lids goes in centre bounce and that hack Crowley eats up a midfield spot away from a gun mid like Fyfe/Mundy etc then Lids runs to FF and takes Crowley out of his comfort zone. 15 possies for a FF ain't that bad.
He's embarassing himself now. How much impact did Lids have with his 15 possies too....I reckon he shat on Crowley FWIW.
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On us specifically, Hutchy said his "Richmond to finish top 4" prediction is now not out of the question. Caro said it's a possibility but she doesn't believe we'll make it whereas Lloyd said with Sydney, Hawthorn and Essendon to come we won't make the top 4.
What a flog Lloyd is ! So we can't make top 4 coz we have to play Essendon again ?? Oooh I'm shaking in my boots. They are the worst top 4 team in AFL history. We'll beat them in round 23 and then I hope we get to play them in the finals coz we'll beat them again.
Of cousre we know they'll be running both games out strongly as they have all year due to a 12 month programme of systematic PED abuse.
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The Big Dice Man :clapping
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Did Lloyd watch Lids or just check the stat sheet? Lids goes in centre bounce and that hack Crowley eats up a midfield spot away from a gun mid like Fyfe/Mundy etc then Lids runs to FF and takes Crowley out of his comfort zone. 15 possies for a FF ain't that bad.
He's embarassing himself now. How much impact did Lids have with his 15 possies too....I reckon he shat on Crowley FWIW.
Lloyd is the same as many posters on here
place to much Emphasis on statistics and possessions but none on quality possessions
and team roles and structures
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On us specifically, Hutchy said his "Richmond to finish top 4" prediction is now not out of the question. Caro said it's a possibility but she doesn't believe we'll make it whereas Lloyd said with Sydney, Hawthorn and Essendon to come we won't make the top 4.
What a flog Lloyd is ! So we can't make top 4 coz we have to play Essendon again ?? Oooh I'm shaking in my boots. They are the worst top 4 team in AFL history. We'll beat them in round 23 and then I hope we get to play them in the finals coz we'll beat them again.
Of cousre we know they'll be running both games out strongly as they have all year due to a 12 month programme of systematic PED abuse.
agree cannot wait to play those pretenders
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On us specifically, Hutchy said his "Richmond to finish top 4" prediction is now not out of the question. Caro said it's a possibility but she doesn't believe we'll make it whereas Lloyd said with Sydney, Hawthorn and Essendon to come we won't make the top 4.
What a flog Lloyd is ! So we can't make top 4 coz we have to play Essendon again ?? Oooh I'm shaking in my boots. They are the worst top 4 team in AFL history. We'll beat them in round 23 and then I hope we get to play them in the finals coz we'll beat them again.
Of cousre we know they'll be running both games out strongly as they have all year due to a 12 month programme of systematic PED abuse.
agree cannot wait to play those pretenders
What's the point it is a waist of time!!
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Someone just asked how Deledio's going and everyone laughed. Had a stinker but cops a bad wrap does Deledio
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(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w434/macopowa/b895e6613a02b28ae27a49e8e08176e4.jpg)
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Geez is there a dumber person in football media than Lloyd? And yeah I'm aware BT is in the industry but I still stand by my assertion Lloyd is the dumbest.
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Happy i missed it
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Geez is there a dumber person in football media than Lloyd? And yeah I'm aware BT is in the industry but I still stand by my assertion Lloyd is the dumbest.
Dwayne Russell?
Still poots in the sandpit.
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:lol
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:lol
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On good call/bad call
Lloyd was asked had he made an All Australian error but not including Steve Morris because he was copping it on twitter.
Hutchy described it as Lloyd being anti-Richmond
Lloyd said he hadn't made a mistake
Really who cares ;D
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Robbo. Do you think you'll get charged
Bomber: ooh, I dunno... do you?
Robbo: ... yeah
*360
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On good call/bad call
Lloyd was asked had he made an All Australian error but not including Steve Morris because he was copping it on twitter.
Hutchy described it as Lloyd being anti-Richmond
Lloyd said he hadn't made a mistake
Really who cares ;D
Wonder if he still thinks we can't make top 4 coz we have to play Essendon in round 23 ? Bwahahaaa ! I'd say our top 4 chances are enhanced by getting to play Essendon in round 23 !
Earth to LLoyd, your team is absolute crap. Amazing how the ASADA thing is now affecting them ? Didn't seem to be an issue when they were tin ar$ing a few wins earlier in the year.
I sincerely hope the AFL doesn't strip them of their points because their pathetic supporters are now using it as a copout. They are saying " take our points off us , we don't care coz we're crap anyhow , just don't take future draft picks off us "
I say , let 'em play this season for points so they can get what's coming to them. Which is another absolute flogging in the first round of the finals and straight out.
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Yessssss Dice :bow
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We lost ::) so there was a bit of Richmond discussion tonight ...
* Lyon and Lloyd reckoned Dusty's mind on the weekend was elsewhere and that the contract talks may be affecting his game. Lloyd said he'll watch with interest over the next few weeks as contract talks affected Cloke's form late last year.
* Caro said you may find Dusty might sign a new contract this week. It's coming across as the Club and manager are at war. Hutchy says Dusty's manager is ill advised.
* On the loss, Lyon's concern is there may be a suggestion of Richmond being happy to just make the finals. That making it is enough when Dimma should sit the players down and remind them they've done nothing yet. They then put up a graphic of North (x3) and Essendon (x2) since 2005 crashing out of the Eight the following year.
* Lloyd said Richmond slowed the game down and seemed spooked by Carlton's run on and they then couldn't get any run going themselves. They paid no time/respect to Brock McLean for instance; for one of his goals he ran past 4 Richmond players to receive the ball clear on his own inside forward 50.
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* Caro said you may find Dusty might sign a new contract this week. It's coming across as the Club and manager are at war. Hutchy says Dusty's manager is ill advised.
Hutchy is wrong, it is Dusty who is being ill advised because Dusty's manager is an ego maniac
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Special edition of Footy Classified on tonight. About to start at 9.40pm.
Looking forward to what Caro has to say :yep.
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Hopefully the Bombers don't hog all the coverage.
Getting sick of the focus on them. Not enough about actual footy...
But being Footy Classified it'll bang on for a while as they only talk issues
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oh caro my queen :clapping :clapping
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oh caro my queen :clapping :clapping
I love her so much
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What did she have to say?
Obviously wasn't positive towards Essendon, LOL
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:bow
What did she have to say?
Obviously wasn't positive towards Essendon, LOL
She's actually been very measured, no "I told you so"
Lloyd, looks shell shocked
Lyon has been super impressive, been critical and not playing favourites
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:bowWhat did she have to say?
Obviously wasn't positive towards Essendon, LOL
She's actually been very measured, no "I told you so"
Lloyd, looks shell shocked
Lyon has been super impressive, been critical and not playing favourites
I liked the part where she said James Hird is finished
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oh caro my queen :clapping :clapping
I love her so much
Not as much as me :bow :bow
:bowWhat did she have to say?
Obviously wasn't positive towards Essendon, LOL
She's actually been very measured, no "I told you so"
Lloyd, looks shell shocked
Lyon has been super impressive, been critical and not playing favourites
Lloyd is a monkey
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I missed it and with the cricket on tonight there won't be a replay on Gem later.
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LMAO@ Lyon judging on drug use
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I missed it and with the cricket on tonight there won't be a replay on Gem later.
My Tech Guru source has provided a transcript of the show last night ...
Footy Classified - Wednesday, August 21, 2013
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Football turmoil tonight. Dramatic day with the AFL and Essendon in an unforeseen war like never before. James Hird heading to the Supreme Court taking action against AFL and Andrew Demetriou claiming he’s been denied natural justice.
CAROLINE WILSON: AFL called in all the clubs, along with Paul Little. Essendon convinced the AFL working a way to remove them from the finals come what may. Deal has broken down – stumbling blocks 12 month suspension to James Hird. Two years of draft penalties.
GARRY LYON: The charges have got the footy world shaking their heads. Number of injections makes for disturbing reading. They are just allegations, need to point that out.
CAROLINE WILSON: If the Australian Crime Commission evidence could be put forward, this charge sheet would be a lot worse than the one put out by the AFL today which is even more horrifying.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Real red flags that made you feel sick as a footy fan that it could go on.
GARRY LYON: Not the game he used to play. Made him feel sick.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Essendon season over today. Even if they’re allowed to play finals, he would be staggered if they win another game. James Hird, will he coach another training session? He’ll try to but with everything on his mind will be difficult.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Initial warning on 5 August 2011, during the meeting James Hird was informed by the AFL’s Manager Integrity Services that peptides were a serious risk to the integrity of the AFL. (He) implored Hird to report to the AFL if he came across any information relating to peptides.
Benita Lalor concerns – 23 August 2011 – No meaningful proof of beneficial effects, no date on the side effects/long term use of Lactaway in elite athletes and potentially relevant warnings that its use may cause additional muscle damage. On getting this information, James Hird emailed Danny Corcoran, “This is what we’re dealing with.” Two days later Dean Robinson appointed.
GARRY LYON: This is the thing that slapped me between the eyes – Bruce Reid letter to James Hird dated 17 January 2011:
Dear James/Paul, I have some fundamental problems being club doctor at present. (Lyon thinks this is the most powerful statement of the whole letter). This particularly applies to the administration of supplements.
Last week the players were given subcutaneous injections, not by myself, and I had no idea that this was happening and also what drug was involved.
One wonders whether if you take a long stance and look at this from a distance whether you wouldn’t want your children being injected with a derivative hormone.”
Bomber Thompson May 2012 – During the May meeting, Thompson resolutely advised Dank that the injecting of players was to cease.
After the May meeting and until at least 5 August 2012 the players continued to receive injections from Dank.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Says he’s asked about Bomber Thompson and his part in that, and there was a number of people angry in that room about the program and Bomber Thompson was the most aggressive.
GARRY LYON: Why didn’t it stop after Bruce Reid letter?
MATTHEW LLOYD: Doesn’t know, maybe the faith in the people that they trusted.
CAROLINE WILSON: Why is Bruce Reid being charged by the AFL given this letter? James Hird is denying that he received that letter but the letter is addressed to him. He does admit that he discussed with Reid his concerns.
GARRY LYON: Speaks to the cavalier nature of what was going on. Bruce Reid pushed aside as he wasn’t up to the modern way or just ignored?
MATTHEW LLOYD: He did believe it had stopped and that it was amino acids and vitamins that were moving on from that period of time and later found it wasn’t the case.
CAROLINE WILSON: Bruce Reid became very emotional today in his surgery at Epworth. Saying Andrew Garnham shouldn’t?? have told Essendon AOD was legal. Patients heard Reid getting upset and had to be taken into the office of Peter Larkins to settle him down.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Today was flashpoint. Was tracking towards a deal, but with doctor breaking rank and the parents meeting set the AFL off today. AFL released this today and reaction very emotional.
CAROLINE WILSON: And Essendon’s refusal to accept draft penalties.
GARRY LYON: On James Hird’s response today – extraordinarily defiant James Hird today, but has to be said he has maintained his innocence through this whole thing.
CAROLINE WILSON: James Hird career close to finished as a result of this scandal. Could have survived if he had taken responsibility at the beginning and attempted to fix the situation behind the scenes. As recently as a month ago he could have salvaged his career. His total undoing has been the manner that he has chosen to fight this. Lost the support of the public, losing the support of the 17 AFL clubs, and did not hear one mention about anyone but James Hird and Andrew Demetriou. Never heard the welfare of the players mentioned once.
GARRY LYON: Right to defend himself. Do we need to hold fire?
CRAIG HUTCHISON: No. Sad for him, admire him like everyone else, but he’s clearly in denial. Haven’t heard him concede mistakes, or addressing them, other than the first day. If someone has got a vendetta against you, what is the motive for the AFL to bring down Hird, one of the games greatest players, if they didn’t genuinely feel that that club had done some wrong. The AFL doesn’t have a motive, trying to get the best result for the game. It was about James Hird today. Would have liked to see him try and take more responsibility.
CAROLINE WILSON: The ASADA evidence and the AFL investigation which he insists is illegal, the Chief Government Solicitor denies that. He said on day one that he was shocked that he was sitting here today. You read this and you wonder what he was saying back then. He said he takes full responsibility for the football department. Has said privately that he regrets he said that and that he was advised to do that by someone in PR. Even that first day he now backs away from.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Feels sick at the moment. Tougher now than in February because he believes a lot in what he has had to say. They have let down their players. Can’t wait to hear what he owns up to. Bomber Thompson the other night said he will face up to 10 or 20 per cent. I can’t wait for it to go to the courts – Essendon think the truth will come out in the courts.
CAROLINE WILSON: All we’ve heard is legal arguments and legal obstacles, attacks on the AFL, procedural problems with the investigation. Wonders why Matthew Lloyd isn’t more angry on behalf of his former team mates.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Everyone in footy is barracking for him to be right.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Could Stephen Dank have let him down?
CAROLINE WILSON: Stephen Dank is the main rogue in this. James Hird emerges from the investigation as the main architect of this program still at the club.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Bomber Thompson tried to stop it.
DAMIEN BARRATT: The AFL has held back so much more detail – text messages exchanges, some of which referred to in 35 page sheet. Some texts not even referenced yet. Charges that they are prepared to defend to the absolute nth should they be challenged. The Australian Crime Commission and ASADA reports have not been referred to yet. Those two documents could still see the light of day, particularly the ASADA report which is obliged under legislation to be tabled once it is completed. More detail to emerge.
Calls from player managers who are concerned. Their main concern was to get the players off and they’ve been quite comfortable up to this point. But conversations he’s had, they had read the report like a lot of us and have been blown away by the level of detail in it and the level of concern for their players. They are considering their own positions with regards to their players. To date they’re more than happy with others to deal totally with what happens with their players, but that could change on absorbing this information today.
Drugs mentioned – Thymosin Beta 4 – “Dank: “Don’t forget how important Thymosin is. This is going to be our vital cornerstone next year.”
Dank was referring to Thymosin Beta-4 and not Thymosin Alpha. In late May 2012 Dank discovered that the Thymosin he had been providing the players (alleged to be Thymosin Beta-4 but disputed by Essendon) was in fact prohibited.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Whether Thymosin Beta-4 was used on the players or used for other means which is also in dispute.
CAROLINE WILSON: Circumstantial evidence at the very least used on the players. ASADA already believe they have enough evidence to serve infraction notices on the players, but they are waiting until the legislation kicks in and they will continue with their investigation.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Mexican drug – Hooper states that 34 Essendon players were injected with an amino acid compound sourced by Patient A from a chemist in Mexico. The identity and integrity of the commodity was inferred by Hooper from labelling without independent or professional verification. Additionally, the amino acid appears to have been in storage at HyperMED for a considerable time prior to its use. Save for the above, Hooper does not know the content or source of the amino acids he injected into the players at HyperMED.
GARRY LYON: If that turns out to be true, that would be enough for him as a player to walk out of that footy club and never return.
MATTHEW LLOYD: He is with Garry on that as well. He says he’s got doubt on some things because he speaks to people at the club, On this one it’s unforgiveable.
CAROLINE WILSON: No-one is denying the story. The Essendon fans made a joke out of it, which shows how crazy they’ve become and they’re even trying to deny it came from Mexico and said it was New Mexico.
MATTHEW LLOYD: That goes to the core of what set off the alarm bells in Bruce Reid.
GARRY LYON: Garry said if it was him, he’d walk out and he would encourage players to walk if all that was true.
CAROLINE WILSON: The only reason Essendon stopped that program was after they got the bill for $61,000.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Side effects the AFL allege James Hird had from his own use.
Hird Side Effects: In or about October 2011, Hird received, on club premises, vials of Melanotan II and syringes from club high performance coach, Dean Robinson. Following his self-administration of injections of Melanotan II Hird suffered ‘REDACTED’ side effects.
GARRY LYON: Supreme Court action that he is taking will be denying he self-injected a substance.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: On Paul Little’s reaction today. The bombers have released a report on their website where it details what he says were the AFL’s undertakings to try and find a compromise, and revised charges that were sent to them last Friday.
Removed:
(i) Players were administered substances that were prohibited by the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code.
Replaced:
(ii) There was an unacceptable risk that players may have been administered substances that were prohibited by the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code.
(iii) The club is unable to determine whether players were administered substances prohibited by the AFL Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Code.
CAROLINE WILSON: As bad and sickening as charges were, nothing in there that people at Essendon tried to cheat. Shows they were totally irresponsible, they tried to push boundaries, they put their players in a dangerous position and even allowed them to be used as guineapigs, but in no part saying they cheated or that James Hird did.
Matt Finnis – our association has no tolerance for conduct which compromises the duty of care to our players. Shocking to see that the concerns of health professionals can be ignored, and a club that seemed intent on pushing the boundaries, regardless of their potential impact. It is not apparent to me, based on my reading of the interim report, how the club can be certain that no player’s health was put at risk by virtue of its supplements program.
CAROLINE WILSON: Went on to say that if no player has no long-term side effects from the program it will be good luck and nothing else and this must never happen again. Was always going to be a moment when the players association stepped over from supporting Essendon and the players to turning on Essendon.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Why wasn’t the players association stronger a week ago with their concerns after they had read the report then?
CAROLINE WILSON: They were. They went in and they spoke to the players and they made it clear how concerned that people involved in this program were still at the club and they were privately even talking about their own action if the AFL didn’t take action. The tipping point was the comments to the players and their families and afterwards by some, including Tim Watson.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Matt Finnis did speak to the players last week and went down like a lead balloon in the sense that not playing finals there was the reality. The whole air has gone out of the bomber players’ season.
Tim Watson – the club had tried to be as open as they possibly can right throughout this and that’s what they were tonight. On the substances in the report, they gave a detailed outline as to what they were and the effects of those if there were any, and those fears have been allayed.
CAROLINE WILSON: AOD 9604 is a WADA-banned substance. The AFL in February didn’t withhold information from Essendon.
Andrew Garnham – “The advice that I had at that time was that AOD 9604 was considered under Section S2 of the Anti-Doping Code and was regarded as not prohibited.
CAROLINE WILSON: Andrew Garnham has sowed the seeds in the minds of Essendon, primarily Bruce Reid and others, that the AFL that had a conspiracy against Essendon. It is so irresponsible of what he has just said. He has been flagged as an AFL person. He is an Essendon consultant and should never have made those comments.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: ASADA refutes comments by Andrew Garnham: “In relation to comments last night by Dr Andrew Garnham, we have been advised in writing by ASADA CEO Aurora Andruska this morning that: AOD 9604 is not approved for human use and logically it couldn’t be considered safe to use. ASADA reiterates that at no point has it advised any party that AOD 9604 was permitted in sport, and our advice to the sporting community has always been consistent with WADA.”
CAROLINE WILSON: Andrew G has no written evidence that ASADA told him that. He’s got his own notes, and ASADA now denies that he was ever told that.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Essendon would still run with it if it was approved?
CAROLINE WILSON: Banned by WADA under the SO category in early 2011. They’re saying the AFL all year has kept this dreadful secret, this secret that has been burdening the players and they should have told them.
MATTHEW LLOYD: So is Bruce Reid wrong?
CAROLINE WILSON: Bruce Reid believes the conspiracy theory that the AFL kept secret their knowledge of AOD being legal. Andrew Demetriou said in April that it was a grey area.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: The fact it was banned wasn’t spelt out.
CAROLINE WILSON: They should have checked with WADA. It is ridiculous to suggest that the AFL kept secret their knowledge that it was legal, when they didn’t know that and it wasn’t.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: The Footy Show will have more tomorrow.
CAROLINE WILSON: Essendon concerned the AFL could find some way of suspending them from the finals before the charges are heard. Definitely some aces up the sleeve of Mike Fitzpatrick. Paul Little for the first time will be put alongside other club presidents. Caro hasn’t found a club that aren’t completely disgusted with the Essendon Football Club tonight. Spoken to the majority of the clubs.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: Will Essendon play finals?
CAROLINE WILSON: No.
GARRY LYON: Yep.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Thinks they will but not the best for them – penalised sooner rather than later and could hurt them in the long run.
CRAIG HUTCHISON: If they try and play finals they’d be foolish.
MATTHEW LLOYD: Will they miss games next year.
CAROLINE WILSON: Not sure but thinks they’ll lose draft picks
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i think its time all assistant coaches doctors and players took a stand now and say enough is enough
they should all as a group confront hird and tell him they will no longer accept his egotistical driven bs and will not play or work with him from here on
take it out of hirds hands , he is for himself
the players should banish him
and to all the bomber fans who stuffed matty knights over for hird
f u karma has been delivered
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All about Hird now and his fight to retain his reputation and career. I say that ship has now sailed regardless of what happens from here on. Hird is now attempting to discredit Vlad. As soon as you bring in lawyers, everything turns to legal posturing and draws on for doubly as long. Expect the Dons to play finals now but the AFL to absolutely smash them once they stop hiding behind the courts.
Ugly.
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I'm expecting more smoking guns to be exposed as time goes by.
If what has been released is not bad enough I expect some more serious things to be brought to light.
Don't know what they might be but to hide behind the courts and not let an arbitrary commission to adjudicate the way it should suggests to me that he is still hiding something serious. Hird and the club are one and the same Dead Man Walking and it will be upto a few people who cannot do anything now to pick up the pieces at Waco Hill. A long time in the wilderness for the Bombers. Stuff them. :thumbsup
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I'm expecting more smoking guns to be exposed as time goes by.
If what has been released is not bad enough I expect some more serious things to be brought to light.
Don't know what they might be but to hide behind the courts and not let an arbitrary commission to adjudicate the way it should suggests to me that he is still hiding something serious. Hird and the club are one and the same Dead Man Walking and it will be upto a few people who cannot do anything now to pick up the pieces at Waco Hill. A long time in the wilderness for the Bombers. Stuff them. :thumbsup
Id bet my ball sack the afl are holding things back ready to unleash if required
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I'm expecting more smoking guns to be exposed as time goes by.
If what has been released is not bad enough I expect some more serious things to be brought to light.
Don't know what they might be but to hide behind the courts and not let an arbitrary commission to adjudicate the way it should suggests to me that he is still hiding something serious. Hird and the club are one and the same Dead Man Walking and it will be upto a few people who cannot do anything now to pick up the pieces at Waco Hill. A long time in the wilderness for the Bombers. Stuff them. :thumbsup
Id bet my ball sack the afl are holding things back ready to unleash if required
They are your ball sacks Bents. ;D
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Lyon - "I reckon North will beat Collingwood to finish 8th and (turns towards Caro) then beat Richmond in week one of the finals."
Still got to laugh that after all these years there's still plenty in the media who still hate and fear us and need to make these digs at our expense :stupid.
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Lyon - "I reckon North will beat Collingwood to finish 8th and (turns towards Caro) then beat Richmond in week one of the finals."
Still got to laugh that after all these years there's still plenty in the media who still hate and fear us and need to make these digs at our expense :stupid.
It is still very likely though as I mentioned on here last night prior to Lyons comments.
Best thing collingwood can do is beat north, I bet they will let me down :-\
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if we play norf at etihad they will smash us over and over again
however at the mcg different story
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North lurking in the shadows like the boogie man .
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We had a bad day against north and we were the hunted. Won't happen again and should be a good game if we play them. Would hope we come out hunting them for payback, they always talk up our respective ladder positions like its personal. Even recall boomer a couple of yrs ago once highlighting how we binned a 100 point loss whereas they dissected and didn't hide from it. Sick of this nothing footy club getting up for games against us. Time to stomp them
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The Blues will win, Port are 7th no matter what.
They'll play like we did against Carlton, bruise free and with their minds already on finals.
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LMAO Norf have won one game outside Etihad and that was by 11 against Port at one of their other home grounds. :whistle
No way Collingwood loses to wannabe Collingwood.
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In all this noone has said what Caro was wearing :banghead
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LMAO Norf have won one game outside Etihad and that was by 11 against Port at one of their other home grounds. :whistle
No way Collingwood loses to wannabe Collingwood.
If Port downs the blues i would think the pies would rather be dropping this one in order to play port, and i will be putting some coin on Nought
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LMAO Norf have won one game outside Etihad and that was by 11 against Port at one of their other home grounds. :whistle
No way Collingwood loses to wannabe Collingwood.
If Port downs the blues i would think the pies would rather be dropping this one in order to play port, and i will be putting some coin on Nought
I reckon they'll want 5th to play Sydney in Sydney rather than Freo in Freo in week 2. Pies will belt Carlton or Port by a poo load. They're a good team who knows how to get poo done in September. They won't be worried about some minnow 7th-9th team.
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Bomber made it look like the nut house was missing someone
Rubbed his arms like a junkie repeatedly
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Tombstone Thompson
http://m.youtube.com/#/results?q=footy%20classified&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_type=search_all&uploaded=w&oq=&gs_l=
Delusional
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looks like hes agitated on speed
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Another wannabee comedian :boredom
MICHAEL WHITING
The headline you'll read: Richmond bundled from finals by ninth-placed team
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-28/aflcomaus-end-of-year-predictions
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Essendon is ninth and they aint playin finals fool :shh
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Promo for tonight's Footy Classified
A very rotund Hutchy "coming up on footy classified; Dustin Martin in hot water again"
;D :rollin
Seriously, hes a real fatty ;D
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Promo for tonight's Footy Classified
A very rotund Hutchy "coming up on footy classified; Dustin Martin in hot water again"
;D :rollin
Seriously, hes a real fatty ;D
Coz he crossed his arms? stuff me dead who cares.
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As Helen Lovejoy and Maude Flanders shriek
"The children, Who'll think of the children?"
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Caro just said it was the most disappointing Tiger loss since 1982
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Worse
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That was just the opening
Currently talking about the Pies and Jolly being sacked
Will be looking at the Tigers shortly
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Dusty to be fined over the jailhouse salute and the AFL is going to make a public statement to cut it out.
Hutchy said we are weathered to Dusty because of all the baggage that comes with and we wouldn't get a similar return (1-10 pick) on our investment in him.
They said Jack was poor. Suspect he was playing injured as they showed vision of Jack off the ball clutching at his knee. However, once you cross that line you're stating you're fit.
Duigan took Deledio out of the game and then Richmond didn't pay any respect to him and he kicked four.
Caro said it was the most disappointing loss since the 1982 Grand Final. For the third time this year, Richmond let Carlton run over them in the second half. Only just hung on in round 1 because they got further enough in front to just hold on.
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Re Dusty's jailhouse gesture
Caro said AFL not happy, once this is sorted and RFC advise what it meant the AFL are likely to make a statement that these "jailhouse gestures" won't be allowed
Caro also said Dusty was disrespectful to the RFC. Was a bad look
Hutchy chimed in about it being terrible for a $500k a year player
Lyon said seeing there always seems to be problems with dusty should RFC look at trading him.
Hutch reckons no one would take him for what the RFC would want for him.
Caro added it was very poor after everything the club has done for dusty
Hutchy said (again) Dusty owes the RFC
Lloyd said nothing ;D
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They also discussed if Carlton is Richmond's "bogey" side
Lots of waffle but nothing of substance :lol
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WGAF about the arm crossing thing.
Seriously the AFL wants the sun to shine out of every player's a-hole.
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Won 11 of the last 12 against us suggests they are.
Ditto North another bogey side.
Ditto Geelong.
Till we start beating these teams consistently then we will more often than not be put to the sword.
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No doubt Caro and Hutchy will have their goss about Dusty tonight.
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Expecting Caro to go "Whackety Whack WHACK" ;D
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No doubt Gaddy Lyon will mention paul roos has spoken with martins management, and try and twst that imaginery knife in our guts ::)
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Lyon just said during the ad break - "Martin's future up in the air after Richmond calls his bluff".
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Hutchy is going WHACK
Big bloody whack ;D
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Am I hearing this right, these gooses actually got our back?
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Am I hearing this right, these gooses actually got our back?
Yep big time
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Caro reckons it better for Dusty to stay but better for Richmond for him to go
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Caro - thought he was staying two weeks ago and so did the RFC.
The argy bargy over asking for a bit more money and then asking for a bit more tested Richmond's patience and they've had enough and pulled the offer.
If he does stay it will be for a little less than the final offer. In Caro's opinion, the Club should cut its losses after managing his off-field issues. Best for Dusty to stay but better for the Club for him to go.
Hutchy said Carr has acted like a goose and he's stuffed up being greedy asking for a unrealistic offer. Dusty is kidding himself and has been given bad advice. He's lost in the outer world and this is (paraphasing) shafting Richmond after all they have done for Dusty. He's needed to be baby-sitted in his life.
Caro said it's a credit to the Club that they have got the best out of Dusty onfield this year given his off-field issues.
Lloyd said Richmond has called Dusty and his manager's bluff and now put to other clubs do they want to give up a first round pick + $500k for a guy with his off-field issues.
Dusty seen turning up to the Saints' Mad Monday (dwarf-gate) six days before a final. He saw the media and turned around and went home.
Lyon said no to Dusty especially if Melbourne have to give up pick 2. You want someone unencumbered for that price.
Caro said she can't see how GWS get Buddy, Fisher and Dusty. Hutchy said GWS is unsuitable for Dusty.
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Tonight
Just beat me OE. :thumbsup
Caro saying she thought he was staying 2 weeks ago.
Caro thinks he is gone and given his high maintenance and we should cut our losses.
According to Hutchy, Carr has been outmanoeuvred by RFC and Martin is his only client left given his greediness and the way RFC has been treated is disgusting.
Caro reiterated club have helped him massively, living with March, Cotch etc and his father and Carr have got this all wrong.
Caro calling him high maintenance.
Lloyd even saying RFC showing Martin they are prepared to lose him.
Offer if Dusty decides to stay will be slightly less than what last offer was according to Caro.
FC saying GWS not a good destination due to young team and lack of leaders.
Caro saying its better if Dusty goes now for the sake of the RFC.
Caro now rightly whacking Jake King for letting bikie into the room and how pear shaped it has gone for RFC post first finals after 12 years.
Pretty much it guys.
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Loved Hutchy's work
Anyone who whacks Carr (a goose) like he just did has my respect for at least this week :laugh:
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Caro's wrong about the old man but spot on about the rest
This mess is the doing of Carr, scumbag and that's being nice
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The guys a human being. Yes they get paid a lot and people mature at different times.
He worth the mucking around!
And we all ove the - 'Dont Argue'
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Carl's wrong about the old man but spot on about the rest
This mess is the doing of Carr, scumbag and that's being nice
Carr should have his AFL player manager licence revoked. You can't deal with unprofessional cretins who renege on agreed deals ::).
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Dusty seen turning up to the Saints' Mad Monday (dwarf-gate) six days before a final. He saw the media and turned around and went home.
Why would you want to hang around with that loser club?! :huh.
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Dusty seen turning up to the Saints' Mad Monday (dwarf-gate) six days before a final. He saw the media and turned around and went home.
Why would you want to hang around with that loser club?! :huh.
I think cos they are and always have been the party club.
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Saints will win the spoon
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Well Dusty don't have many backers in the footy circle. l think there would be more going through his head then $$$ signs now. ;D
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Well Dusty don't have many backers in the footy circle. l think there would be more going through his head then $$$ signs now. ;D
I doubt that, one thought at a time
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No mention from the 4 amigos about them talking about Dusty tonight.
Lloyd just said he's heard Richmond and North are the two clubs interested in Heath Shaw.
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They interviewed Benny Gale and he said he didn't see the offer changing from the one put to Dusty before. The offer put forward was a competitive one based on market value.
Caro said she believed the offer would be the same but with additional behavioural clauses.
She added it's hard to see the Club willing to deal with Ralph Carr ever again. She could see a situation where Dusty agrees to a new deal without his manager as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Lloyd said he was disappointed with Martin last night at the Brownlow. He had a chance to win people back over. Sure enjoy yourself but Dusty and Aaron Edwards putting grapes in each other's mouth wasn't a good look and Dusty's poor second halves in matches is a reflection of someone with a poor lifestyle.
Hutchy, Lyon and Lloyd laughed at Aaron Edwards being Dusty's mentor. Lyon said Martin needs to mentor himself and listen to his coach Damien Hardwick.
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Matthew Lloyd used to play with his wife's balls under the table at the Brownlow so I'm not sure he's one to judge, Hutchy's mentor is Pizza The Hut from Spaceballs, and Garry Lyon is a hairy malaka and he needs an eye lift and nasal reconstruction from years spent with his face up the back of blown out hookers
FFS get some perspective
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Matthew Lloyd used to play with his wife's balls under the table at the Brownlow so I'm not sure he's one to judge, Hutchy's mentor is Pizza The Hut from Spaceballs, and Garry Lyon is a hairy malaka and he needs an eye lift and nasal reconstruction from years spent with his face up the back of blown out hookers
FFS get some perspective
LMAO :lol I seen Lloyd and his wife at a wiggles concert once, they had no kids with them :huh
True story!!
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:lol coach was at the same gig
Left with a few good sorts he said
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Matthew Lloyd used to play with his wife's balls under the table at the Brownlow so I'm not sure he's one to judge, Hutchy's mentor is Pizza The Hut from Spaceballs, and Garry Lyon is a hairy malaka and he needs an eye lift and nasal reconstruction from years spent with his face up the back of blown out hookers
FFS get some perspective
Yessss :clapping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33n-IS8a1S4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Matthew Lloyd used to play with his wife's balls under the table at the Brownlow so I'm not sure he's one to judge, Hutchy's mentor is Pizza The Hut from Spaceballs, and Garry Lyon is a hairy malaka and he needs an eye lift and nasal reconstruction from years spent with his face up the back of blown out hookers
FFS get some perspective
:lol One of your finest. :clapping
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
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Gerks.
:bow
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Matthew Lloyd used to play with his wife's balls under the table at the Brownlow so I'm not sure he's one to judge, Hutchy's mentor is Pizza The Hut from Spaceballs, and Garry Lyon is a hairy malaka and he needs an eye lift and nasal reconstruction from years spent with his face up the back of blown out hookers
FFS get some perspective
LMAO :lol I seen Lloyd and his wife at a wiggles concert once, they had no kids with them :huh
True story!!
Er, are you saying that this is a problem?
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They interviewed Benny Gale and he said he didn't see the offer changing from the one put to Dusty before. The offer put forward was a competitive one based on market value.
Caro said she believed the offer would be the same but with additional behavioural clauses.
She added it's hard to see the Club willing to deal with Ralph Carr ever again. She could see a situation where Dusty agrees to a new deal without his manager as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Lloyd said he was disappointed with Martin last night at the Brownlow. He had a chance to win people back over. Sure enjoy yourself but Dusty and Aaron Edwards putting grapes in each other's mouth wasn't a good look and Dusty's poor second halves in matches is a reflection of someone with a poor lifestyle.
Hutchy, Lyon and Lloyd laughed at Aaron Edwards being Dusty's mentor. Lyon said Martin needs to mentor himself and listen to his coach Damien Hardwick.
Will the club look at who the player manager is before recruiting a player? It seems a pretty drastic step if it did
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
Yes I did and clearly I was wrong in how I read Caro's article
And I had every intention on coming on here this morning (couldn't do it last night because I got kicked off the computer ;D) and admitting I was wrong
Is that OK?
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
Yes I did and clearly I was wrong in how I read Caro's article
And I had every intention on coming on here this morning (couldn't do it last night because I got kicked off the computer ;D) and admitting I was wrong
Is that OK?
We all need to pitch in together and buy WP his own computer! Most of his money has clearly gone into the RFC coterie payments!!!
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
Yes I did and clearly I was wrong in how I read Caro's article
And I had every intention on coming on here this morning (couldn't do it last night because I got kicked off the computer ;D) and admitting I was wrong
Is that OK?
We all need to pitch in together and buy WP his own computer! Most of his money has clearly gone into the RFC coterie payments!!!
I actually have one of those iPad thingees which I think is crap :banghead but it serves a purpose regarding using the internet.
But when the battery goes flat well that option is no longer an option. And I've just upgraded to the the new iOS7 software and it's sucking the power out of the battery bloody quickly
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Apple controls the World.
I went to a bar to watch the Hawks Cats game which had tables and chairs and mostly young people and I noticed every single person was on their Iphones squinting at it's tiny screen.
Apple is controlling the human race.
LOL couples sitting together making love to their iphones,not each other.
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
Yes I did and clearly I was wrong in how I read Caro's article
And I had every intention on coming on here this morning (couldn't do it last night because I got kicked off the computer ;D) and admitting I was wrong
Is that OK?
We all need to pitch in together and buy WP his own computer! Most of his money has clearly gone into the RFC coterie payments!!!
I wouldn't part with money over it but I do feel a bit sad for poor Willy
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I wouldn't part with money over it but I do feel a bit sad for poor Willy
Nup, he forfeited all rights to sympathy when he sold his soul to the big apple.
;D
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I wouldn't part with money over it but I do feel a bit sad for poor Willy
Nup, he forfeited all rights to sympathy when he sold his soul to the big apple.
;D
:rollin
I didn't buy the bloody thing - I am actually anti Apple, would never buy one for myself. Most impractical thing for an accountant I must say
Bloody useless piece of rubbish was a gift.
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My 85 year old nutcase of a mother in law just bought one.
She loves it.
Says it all really.
:cheers
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that idiots have finally learned not to purchase anything that runs windows native? agree
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as Club did the deal with Reece Conca without his manager being there.
Interesting, didn't one on this forum say this never happened :lol
Yes I did and clearly I was wrong in how I read Caro's article
And I had every intention on coming on here this morning (couldn't do it last night because I got kicked off the computer ;D) and admitting I was wrong
Is that OK?
:'( :'( :'(
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that idiots have finally learned not to purchase anything that runs windows native? agree
Bill Gates is my hero ;D Microsoft should be able to rule the world. The world needs the leadership of Gates. Gates should run the world.
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My 85 year old nutcase of a mother in law just bought one.
She loves it.
Says it all really.
:cheers
And you talk about playing the man not the ball.
Comparing young Willy to your 85 year old nutcase of a mother, that's a low blow.
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My 85 year old nutcase of a mother in law just bought one.
She loves it.
Says it all really.
:cheers
And you talk about playing the man not the ball.
Comparing young Willy to your 85 year old nutcase of a mother, that's a low blow.
:lol :lol
:biglaugh
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(http://www.favbrowser.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/browsersfunny.jpg)
(http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/gsPxr2.jpg)
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Hahaha I like how Explorers eyes are wacko
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:lol :rollin :lol :rollin :lol :rollin
So so so true. :)
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Didn't know until I saw something about it on Twitter
But footy classified is back tonight
Already spoken about Richmond
The topic - Jake King and Toby Mitchell :sleep :rollin
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Apparently there's been distractions at Richmond over the off-season according to Lyon ::) :stupid :lol.
Lloyd says Richmond's response to the Kingy issue is working so far.
Caro says Kingy's worst mistake was bringing Toby Mitchell into the rooms.
Hutchy reckons Richmond can say who Kingy associates with in the interest of the integrity of the sport. Lyon replied how to you enforce that across the comp. - how do you follow up every friendship every person has?
Lyon said where's the consistently when Dusty wasn't allowed to fratenise with Dan Connors yet Kingy can associare with Toby Mitchell. Lloyd said Connors has got his act together and is living with his girlfriend and Dusty has moved in with them - it's a totally different situation to two years ago.
Lloyd said he was at Punt Rd on Friday and Richmond is flying so they may be looking into the off-field stuff too much.
Then they got onto Jack. Caro says he's a good footballer but not a leader. Hutchy reckons he's the smartest footballer on field. He hasn't spoken to Jack either.
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The whole thing about Kingy was confusing and even they didn't know what they were arguing about in the end.
Hutchy claims the club should be able to dictate who he sees. Then he was quizzed on where does it stop and he had no answer. Caro said he is ignoring team rules. What team rules? He hasn't been banned from seeing Toby. Then when quizzed on what rules she claimed bringing Toby into the room. Last time I checked he hasn't brought him into the rooms AFTER that rule was put in place?
Hilarious viewing.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWiOwuTIQ3NRiK7Nabhjo5wJh6fZvAXtHiYXO-YTQ5O61FZn8s)
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Hutchy also described Jake as "naïve" for bringing Mitchell into the rooms. Incredibly naïve for someone who's career is "hanging by a thread"
;D
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5 years on and Garry Lyon is still talking about Jake King :lol
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Think I might go have a flog.......cant we just move on from the King Mitchell crap.. :banghead
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5 years on and Garry Lyon is still talking about Jake King :lol
This article still hurts Gaddy. :lol
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/one-for-the-future-20100806-11okx.html
For the Demons and Tigers, we're still not exactly sure how far they've come, and although the Sheedy appraisal was ridiculous, both teams still have some convincing to do. Which is why tomorrow afternoon becomes such a fascinating and potentially revealing contest.
Which of these two young sides, both of which have been so positively embraced by the football community in recent weeks, will further justify the borderline rave reviews bestowed upon them?
The Demons will go in as the hunted for the first time in a long while. There is no doubt the Tigers were stung by their humiliating 55-point belting at the hands of the Demons in round four. At the time there was massive expectation coming out of Punt Road that this was their best chance of notching up their first win under Hardwick.
.....
I think its fantastic that supporters of both teams can go along tomorrow full of hope and expectation rather than resignation and despair. I would love to be able to argue with my Richmond mates about the relative merits of our respective lists in the coming years, as long as, like the Cats and Saints supporters have been able to do, it is from the stands of the MCG in September as both our clubs slug it out in front of us.
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Think I might go have a flog.......cant we just move on from the King Mitchell crap.. :banghead
Geez man, we didn't need to hear that
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WHAT WAS CARO WEARING
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Hutchy also described Jake as "naïve" for bringing Mitchell into the rooms. Incredibly naïve for someone who's career is "hanging by a thread"
;D
It is hanging by thread...
Regardless of who his mates are
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5 years on and Garry Lyon is still talking about Jake King :lol
Remember when we sacked Wallace.
Kingy was a spokesman and was present at the intervention.
Lyon took great umbrage with the fact Jake seemed front and central.
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WHAT WAS CARO WEARING
Is that related to WAT's post? :whistle
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WHAT WAS CARO WEARING
Nothing. :o
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WHAT WAS CARO WEARING
Lots of make up. Didn't help her one iota though.
I reckon this looks like Caro >>
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_jKXxad5B3c/TZ0iAEbaDqI/AAAAAAAAAEs/GtVjcz77zQ8/s1600/et-girl.jpg)
;D
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Geez that brings back memories......
red card
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Blah, blah, blah, blah................,
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Geez that brings back memories......
red card
That was just for you Coach :thumbsup
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WHAT WAS CARO WEARING
Lots of make up. Didn't help her one iota though.
I reckon this looks like Caro >>
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_jKXxad5B3c/TZ0iAEbaDqI/AAAAAAAAAEs/GtVjcz77zQ8/s1600/et-girl.jpg)
;D
Faptacular!
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old school hahaha
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Geez that brings back memories......
red card
How many infraction points?
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not as many as the caro dance
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Just got foxtel and the couch murders footy classified for both content and quality
Lloyd & Lyon go alright but Caro & Hutchy are horrific
False bravado is cringe worthy
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Think I might go have a flog.......cant we just move on from the King Mitchell crap.. :banghead
Geez man, we didn't need to hear that
;D
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stopped watching all those BS shows. AFL media release vision to the networks and programs and if you watch all programs that week will build their shows around the same content - its just rehashed rehearsed controlled media crap. Nothing fresh that goes at issues - they toe the line now otherwise their afl media accreditation will get revoked.
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But u might miss out on gerard whateley latest propaganda bollocks
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There is that... :-\
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not as many as the caro dance
Bring it back!
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They're going to talk about us after the ad break.
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Anyone got a transcript , I was flossing ::)
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Anyone got a transcript , I was flossing ::)
:lol front or back bojo? :shh
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:lol
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Caro Pwns Hutchenberg
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It was mostly about Jack tonight. Lloyd reckons Dimma is trying to follow the Hawthorn model too much regarding having a spread of forward options that just didn't rely on Franklin. Whereas Hawthorn have other genuine forwards in Roughead, Gunston, Bruest, Rioli with Hale resting forward, Richmond's other options are Vickery (inconsistent), Griffiths (unproved), Dusty and Shane Edwards. Lloyd said Hardwick needs to use Jack 70% up forward and 30% up the ground. He also said it wasn't the best option for Jack to lose weight. Jack's smart and creativity close to goal is his greatest asset. Now they've got Vickery as their main forward target. They went 14 times to Vickery and only 3 times to Jack. Lyon said Richmond won 15 games and played finals last year spreading the forward options and if Dimma was sitting with them he would say that.
Caro said Jack needs to stop be immature blaming the media for not writing what he wants them to write. The media will report what they see. She said Cotchin and the leadership group needed to pull Jack aside.
Both Lyon and Lloyd had no issue with Hardwick singling out Ellis and Conca in his post-match media conference.
Caro didn't believe the loss was anywhere near as bad as the Carlton & Collingwood losses on the weekend. Gold Coast are now a good side and they always (sic) beat Richmond anyway.
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I agree that we targeted Vickery far too much but how much of that was also how Jack was positioning himself and how he was presenting? I don't believe Jack is in any sort of form yet. Vickery is playing deeper will always make him the long target.
My suggestion would be to rotate the two throughout a game to make us inconsistent and ensure that we are not one dimensional. With Vickery being so badly beaten on Saturday night I would have thrown Jack back closer to goal.
With a larger ground and better delivery of the ball by our midfielders, I'm am sure the forward line will function much better against the Bluebaggers :pray
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Can't be bothered starting a thread so I'll plonk this here... If anyone saw the Ricky Nixon thing on Open Mike last night I'd like to know what they thought ?
Personally , I don't think the bloke is a well man. I've never seen an interview with so many blatant lies and contradictions. It was horrendous !
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I agree that we targeted Vickery far too much but how much of that was also how Jack was positioning himself and how he was presenting? I don't believe Jack is in any sort of form yet. Vickery is playing deeper will always make him the long target.
My suggestion would be to rotate the two throughout a game to make us inconsistent and ensure that we are not one dimensional. With Vickery being so badly beaten on Saturday night I would have thrown Jack back closer to goal.
With a larger ground and better delivery of the ball by our midfielders, I'm am sure the forward line will function much better against the Bluebaggers :pray
Interesting about the larger ground. A Sydney mate swears we play the MCG better than anyone. Now for not being mentally weak against sides like Carlton.
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I agree that we targeted Vickery far too much but how much of that was also how Jack was positioning himself and how he was presenting? I don't believe Jack is in any sort of form yet. Vickery is playing deeper will always make him the long target.
My suggestion would be to rotate the two throughout a game to make us inconsistent and ensure that we are not one dimensional. With Vickery being so badly beaten on Saturday night I would have thrown Jack back closer to goal.
With a larger ground and better delivery of the ball by our midfielders, I'm am sure the forward line will function much better against the Bluebaggers :pray
Only flaw in that plan Stripes, is that Metricon is almost identical in size to the MCG and is larger than most other grounds.
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I agree that we targeted Vickery far too much but how much of that was also how Jack was positioning himself and how he was presenting? I don't believe Jack is in any sort of form yet. Vickery is playing deeper will always make him the long target.
My suggestion would be to rotate the two throughout a game to make us inconsistent and ensure that we are not one dimensional. With Vickery being so badly beaten on Saturday night I would have thrown Jack back closer to goal.
With a larger ground and better delivery of the ball by our midfielders, I'm am sure the forward line will function much better against the Bluebaggers :pray
Only flaw in that plan Stripes, is that Metricon is almost identical in size to the MCG and is larger than most other grounds.
Is that right...then :booboo. Gold Coast certainly closed down our space and options then which is down right frightening. Has it the same width? I would be far more confident playing these guys later in the season when the pace of games have slowed and on the MCG where we 'seem' to have more time and latitude to move the ball.
Hats off to them really - they ripped our gameplan to shreds. :help
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Lots of conflicting measurements but from the AFL site:
MCG
Capacity: Approx 100,000
Ground dimensions: 160m x 141m
Metricon Stadium
Capacity: 25,000
Ground dimensions: 160m x 134m
I wouldn't think 7m in width overall is significant in the big picture of ball movement.
A couple of others just for interests sake:
The Gabba
Capacity: 42,000
Ground dimensions: 156m x 138m
Patersons Stadium
Capacity: 43,082
Ground dimensions: 175.6m x 122.4m
SCG
Capacity: 45,500
Ground dimensions: 149m x 136m
ANZ Stadium
Capacity: 81,500
Ground dimensions: 159.5m x 128.8m
Etihad Stadium
Capacity: 53,355
Ground dimensions: 159.5m x 128.8m
Simonds Stadium
Capacity: 28,300
Ground dimensions: 170m x 115m
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Hats off to them really - they ripped our gameplan to shreds. :help
Not hard when we tell the world what we're looking to do every other week. We tell them how we're going to play ablett, we are going to play Dusty off HB, Newman up fwd, Jack away from goal...we tell everyone last year we are going to play tempo footy and when a player puts the ball above his head it signifies keepings off. I may be wrong but I really don't see any other side in the comp talking this way to the media, we need a new media manager, we have nfi and run our mouths too much, talk is cheap
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Gold Coast certainly closed down our space
they did, but we certainly made it easier with our lack of effort to create space.
The amount of times the TV camera would pan the ground and see every tiger flatfooted was :banghead
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Hats off to them really - they ripped our gameplan to shreds. :help
Not hard when we tell the world what we're looking to do every other week. We tell them how we're going to play ablett, we are going to play Dusty off HB, Newman up fwd, Jack away from goal...we tell everyone last year we are going to play tempo footy and when a player puts the ball above his head it signifies keepings off. I may be wrong but I really don't see any other side in the comp talking this way to the media, we need a new media manager, we have nfi and run our mouths too much, talk is cheap
:clapping :clapping We are a stuffing dumb football club.
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Hats off to them really - they ripped our gameplan to shreds. :help
Not hard when we tell the world what we're looking to do every other week. We tell them how we're going to play ablett, we are going to play Dusty off HB, Newman up fwd, Jack away from goal...we tell everyone last year we are going to play tempo footy and when a player puts the ball above his head it signifies keepings off. I may be wrong but I really don't see any other side in the comp talking this way to the media, we need a new media manager, we have nfi and run our mouths too much, talk is cheap
Why doesn't Hardwick send the media the full blueprint to our game plan? At least then nobody will have to say anything more to them for the rest of the season..... :whistle
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Lots of conflicting measurements but from the AFL site:
MCG
Capacity: Approx 100,000
Ground dimensions: 160m x 141m
Metricon Stadium
Capacity: 25,000
Ground dimensions: 160m x 134m
I wouldn't think 7m in width overall is significant in the big picture of ball movement.
Thanks for this Smokey! Great research :clapping
Its funny you say that though because I feel it would create a noticeable amount of additional space around the wings. The ground is fair more circular than say Pattisons which is almost rectangular. Really changes your game style, structure and selections. I think we are going to go back to the days when the inter-state teams exploit their home ground advance over the rest of the competition. The conditions will be clearly different for GC and GWS home grounds compared to the Melbourne grounds and not just because of the dimensions of the ground.
Ultimately it shouldn't have made as much of a difference as it did. The pace of the game and the prolonged man-on-man pressure they fitter GC players were able to maintain was our undoing. :scream
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Its funny you say that though because I feel it would create a noticeable amount of additional space around the wings.
Yeah, only my opinion Stripes but given the measurements are taken from the widest point on the wings I don't think 3.5 mts of extra space each side out there (which will reduce as you get to the flanks and pockets) isn't enough to make a tangible difference, especially when the length of the ground is the same. 10+ mts on the other hand (5+ each side or in length) starts to become significant. But as I said, only an opinion, I've got nothing else to back that up with! ;D
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I agree that we targeted Vickery far too much but how much of that was also how Jack was positioning himself and how he was presenting? I don't believe Jack is in any sort of form yet. Vickery is playing deeper will always make him the long target.
My suggestion would be to rotate the two throughout a game to make us inconsistent and ensure that we are not one dimensional. With Vickery being so badly beaten on Saturday night I would have thrown Jack back closer to goal.
With a larger ground and better delivery of the ball by our midfielders, I'm am sure the forward line will function much better against the Bluebaggers :pray
Only flaw in that plan Stripes, is that Metricon is almost identical in size to the MCG and is larger than most other grounds.
Yeah she is no MCG though, Smokester, I was there!!!!!
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Lol. No GPT, she's not. Nothing can replace the atmosphere or sense of occasion that a big game at the 'G' produces. :thumbsup
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We lost so plenty of discussion about the Tiges tonight.
Caro says it's not the coach; it's the playing personnel. There's something mentally wrong with that playing group. There's a lack of on-field leadership. She didn't have us making the Eight so she isn't surprised as Richmond's bottom six players aren't good enough. She put some of the blame on the off-field 'crises' over the summer. She blamed Jake King for what he put the club through and Dusty. She wouldn't play Jake ever again and said he's going to retire at the end of the year anyway.
Lloyd blamed our forward structure. Too many talls. When Maric comes back in, one of Griffiths and Vickery has to go. Lyon said he liked Griffiths but Lloyd said neither of the two are doing enough.
Lyon said we looked slow. It's a massive game on Friday night for both clubs with the fallout to come for the loser of that game.
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On Talking Footy, Carey said the weekend proved Jack Riewoldt has to play inside forward 50. He doesn't have the tank and decision making to find the ball upfield. If Hardwick isn't going to play Jack at FF and use him instead as a decoy for Vickery and others then Richmond might as well give Jack to a club that needs a FF and get something for him. Carey added that Dimma and Jack talking about Jack moving out of the forward line to develop other forwards and share goals is "rhubarb". Do you see Roughead being moved out to help Gunston. Hawthorn's forwards work together; Richmond's don't.
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Isn't Carey an alcoholic? FFS even he can see it. :banghead
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Both make good points
Stop stuffing around with the team and make some logical decisions!
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Yep I agree with all comments.
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So because Jake King is mixing with bikies and Dustin Martin wanted more money, our players won't run hard and do the footy basics..... ::)
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So because Jake King is mixing with bikies and Dustin Martin wanted more money, our players won't run hard and do the footy basics..... ::)
The football related comments I agree with.
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So because Jake King is mixing with bikies and Dustin Martin wanted more money, our players won't run hard and do the footy basics..... ::)
The football related comments I agree with.
I wasn't having a dig at you, I was having a go at Caros comments.
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So because Jake King is mixing with bikies and Dustin Martin wanted more money, our players won't run hard and do the footy basics..... ::)
The football related comments I agree with.
I wasn't having a dig at you, I was having a go at Caros comments.
I know, but my original comment was too broad... :thumbsup
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On Talking Footy, Carey said the weekend proved Jack Riewoldt has to play inside forward 50. He doesn't have the tank and decision making to find the ball upfield. If Hardwick isn't going to play Jack at FF and use him instead as a decoy for Vickery and others then Richmond might as well give Jack to a club that needs a FF and get something for him. Carey added that Dimma and Jack talking about Jack moving out of the forward line to develop other forwards and share goals is "rhubarb". Do you see Roughead being moved out to help Gunston. Hawthorn's forwards work together; Richmond's don't.
More from Carey on MMM this morning about Richmond's use of Jack Riewoldt ...
AUDIO: https://soundcloud.com/triple-m-footy/carey-hardwick-wrongly-using
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has to admit he has been playing Jack Riewoldt in the wrong position, according to Wayne Carey.
Speaking to Triple M’s Hot Breakfast on Tuesday, The Duck was adamant that Riewoldt was a legitimate full forward and does not have the ability to play anywhere else on the ground.
Carey said anyone can ‘run around like a headless chook’ as a decoy and that role was beneath such a talented player like two-time Coleman Medalist Riewoldt.
While Hardwick’s new forward structure yielded 15 wins and a finals appearance last year, Carey noted Richmond still finished outside the top four and were eliminated from September by a team who for all intents and purposes finished ninth (Carlton).
The Duck said he wanted to see Riewoldt back in his natural habitat at full forward as early as this week against Collingwood at the MCG.
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/afl/news/2014/4/wayne-carey-tells-triple-ms-hot-breakfast-that-richmond-tigers-star-jack-riewoldt-has-to-play-at-full-forward/
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On Talking Footy, Carey said the weekend proved Jack Riewoldt has to play inside forward 50. He doesn't have the tank and decision making to find the ball upfield. If Hardwick isn't going to play Jack at FF and use him instead as a decoy for Vickery and others then Richmond might as well give Jack to a club that needs a FF and get something for him. Carey added that Dimma and Jack talking about Jack moving out of the forward line to develop other forwards and share goals is "rhubarb". Do you see Roughead being moved out to help Gunston. Hawthorn's forwards work together; Richmond's don't.
More from Carey on MMM this morning about Richmond's use of Jack Riewoldt ...
AUDIO: https://soundcloud.com/triple-m-footy/carey-hardwick-wrongly-using
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has to admit he has been playing Jack Riewoldt in the wrong position, according to Wayne Carey.
Speaking to Triple M’s Hot Breakfast on Tuesday, The Duck was adamant that Riewoldt was a legitimate full forward and does not have the ability to play anywhere else on the ground.
Carey said anyone can ‘run around like a headless chook’ as a decoy and that role was beneath such a talented player like two-time Coleman Medalist Riewoldt.
While Hardwick’s new forward structure yielded 15 wins and a finals appearance last year, Carey noted Richmond still finished outside the top four and were eliminated from September by a team who for all intents and purposes finished ninth (Carlton).
The Duck said he wanted to see Riewoldt back in his natural habitat at full forward as early as this week against Collingwood at the MCG.
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/afl/news/2014/4/wayne-carey-tells-triple-ms-hot-breakfast-that-richmond-tigers-star-jack-riewoldt-has-to-play-at-full-forward/
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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Gotta love the duck
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Reminder: not sure how many times we have to say this :banghead :banghead
Do not under any circumstances post unsubstantiated rumours on the forum. Even those you post in jest. You set the site up for serious legal ramifications/issues.
Perhaps a 48 hour suspension might get the message through?
And before you go crook Dice, Mrakov posted something totally unacceptable and legally foolish using your pic. It was easier to remove both
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We got another decent mention tonight ...
* Caro said Richmond has been as bad as Carlton has but has flown under the radar thanks to Carlton's woes. Let's hope they come in and face us like Malthouse did tonight when we ask them.
* Lloyd said Richmond has returned to the poorly skilled overly-conservative team that he thought we had gone pass.
* Lyon mentioned that Richmond only played on twice in the back half in the whole first half which is unbelievable.
* Caro blamed Richmond's poor recruiting.
* Lyon thought Vickery at least showed competitiveness last year; it's totally gone this year so dramatically he has fallen away. Caro didn't rate his form last year either.
* Lloyd said speaking of uncompetitiveness, the CHB Troy Chaplin needs to have a good look at himself. His efforts have been really poor this year. Caro said it's unbelievable he's been put into the leadership group. Richmond don't have the leaders as it is. Cotchin is clearly missing Deledio out there.
* Lyon questioned why Matt Thomas was matched on Pendlebury as he has no outside game and Pendlebury just cut loose once he got on the outside as Thomas couldn't go with him. The mix isn't right with the team. Compare Thomas to Matty White who has pace which is something Richmond is missing.
* Lloyd mentioned he was watching the game with Cameron Ling and Ling said that as a tagger he would come off battered and bruised after playing a good side. They would continually crash into him. McCaffer wouldn't have felt a thing against Richmond which is an indictment on the Tigers.
* Caro later on said Benny Gale needs to remove himself from the AFL CEO running. That club is heading into crisis and he needs to have his full focus on Richmond.
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Nah everything is swell at Tigerland. We just needa get better. :shh
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Very scathing but very true!! THE RFC need to take comments like these on board and act instead of coming up with all the excuses they have.
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Nah everything is swell at Tigerland. We just needa get better. :shh
Don't say it so loudly tigs! :shh
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We got another decent mention tonight ...
* Caro said Richmond has been as bad as Carlton has but has flown under the radar thanks to Carlton's woes. Let's hope they come in and face us like Malthouse did tonight when we ask them.
* Lloyd said Richmond has returned to the poorly skilled overly-conservative team that he thought we had gone pass.
* Lyon mentioned that Richmond only played on twice in the back half in the whole first half which is unbelievable.
* Caro blamed Richmond's poor recruiting.
* Lyon thought Vickery at least showed competitiveness last year; it's totally gone this year so dramatically he has fallen away. Caro didn't rate his form last year either.
* Lloyd said speaking of uncompetitiveness, the CHB Troy Chaplin needs to have a good look at himself. His efforts have been really poor this year. Caro said it's unbelievable he's been put into the leadership group. Richmond don't have the leaders as it is. Cotchin is clearly missing Deledio out there.
* Lyon questioned why Matt Thomas was matched on Pendlebury as he has no outside game and Pendlebury just cut loose once he got on the outside as Thomas couldn't go with him. The mix isn't right with the team. Compare Thomas to Matty White who has pace which is something Richmond is missing.
* Lloyd mentioned he was watching the game with Cameron Ling and Ling said that as a tagger he would come off battered and bruised after playing a good side. They would continually crash into him. McCaffer wouldn't have felt a thing against Richmond which is an indictment on the Tigers.
* Caro later on said Benny Gale needs to remove himself from the AFL CEO running. That club is heading into crisis and he needs to have his full focus on Richmond.
:clapping We deserve this and so much more. Club is a shambles
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last thing l remember was Caro & Malthouse at it. There is no love between them 2.
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Caro later on said Benny Gale needs to remove himself from the AFL CEO running. That club is heading into crisis and he needs to have his full focus on Richmond.
LMAO at this pathetic creature. So Benny should forget about his career ambitions should he ? Richmond are heading into crisis ? Really ?
What utter crap this thing spews out week after week. I so wish she didn't barrack for my team. Makes me wanna change clubs.
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i stopped watching all the footy shows a while ago. Its the exact same rehashed BS on each one.
AFL send out the exact same clips/memo to all afl affiliated media for the weeks agenda. Absolute controlled rubbish
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Caro later on said Benny Gale needs to remove himself from the AFL CEO running. That club is heading into crisis and he needs to have his full focus on Richmond.
LMAO at this pathetic creature. So Benny should forget about his career ambitions should he ? Richmond are heading into crisis ? Really ?
What utter crap this thing spews out week after week. I so wish she didn't barrack for my team. Makes me wanna change clubs.
caro has always spewed rubbish ;D
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i stopped watching all the footy shows a while ago. Its the exact same rehashed BS on each one.
AFL send out the exact same clips/memo to all afl affiliated media for the weeks agenda. Absolute controlled rubbish
Spot on Tony :thumbsup
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Good to see Caro back with her regurgitated vomit.
Crisis, please do tell Caro.
5 years ago we were rock bottom, with the ass hanging out of shorts.
We as a club have picked ourselves up by and large from our fantastic supporters and good people running the club.
4 games into a season and we are now in a crisis.
This woman should be on stage, drama queen.
Our recruiting is now poor, funny how no one last year thought to say this, I remember many
an article about our improved recruiting.
I believe someone from RFC gave Ms Wilson a nice phone call today, let's hope her ears were ringing.
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Caro is a whining old #%£% , she hasn't had a good thing to say since 1980 :wallywink
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Good to see Caro back with her regurgitated vomit.
Crisis, please do tell Caro.
5 years ago we were rock bottom, with the ass hanging out of shorts.
We as a club have picked ourselves up by and large from our fantastic supporters and good people running the club.
4 games into a season and we are now in a crisis.
This woman should be on stage, drama queen.
Our recruiting is now poor, funny how no one last year thought to say this, I remember many
an article about our improved recruiting.
I believe someone from RFC gave Ms Wilson a nice phone call today, let's hope her ears were ringing.
:cheers
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The video clip of last night's discussion about us called "Trouble in Tigerland" can be watched here:
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/footyclassified/video#
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Some of what they said about Richmond tonight:
* Lyon said Dimma using injuries as an excuse for poor performance is disappointing and displays the pressure the Club is under. That mentioning those three players missing says the side relies on those three. Caro added that Hawthorn beat Essendon with 4-5 of their best players out; North won interstate on the weekend with 3 of their best players. Richmond aren't with them in the top 8 and she never thought they were as she predicted at the start of the season.
* Caro said sadly their recruiting once again has to come under the spotlight. Hutchy said they were competitive for a half but weren't good enough. They have a lot of B- players.
* Lloyd said they lack confidence, they lack run and they lack dare. They aren't kicking enough goals with just 7 on the weekend.
* Caro said she is really pessimistic regarding where Richmond are at.
* Caro added Hardwick is giving out mixed messages. Last week he said Richmond were better than last year which they clearly are not but then he also used injuries as an excuse for their poor performances. Perhaps he is trying to protect the confidence of the players.
* Caro also said leadership is lacking at the Club. This existed over the offseason with how the club dealt with the Jake King situation and what happened with Dustin Martin. Onfield they lack leadership. She initially said she didn't blame Cotchin as he has no support but late she said they have a young captain who is struggling to deal with the captaincy.
* Lyon mentioned a silent president although Caro said that's how Peggy chooses to be and she will speak eventually when she needs to. Benny Gale has been the real spokesperson for the Club. She added that she believes Benny Gale has had his eye off the ball chasing the AFL gig.
* Lyon said to Caro that her summary gives the impression of one confused footy club.
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Enlightening stuff.
My 3 year old nephew could have made the same analysis. How basic can an AFL show be?
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They just read forums and copy our poo. They get paid for it while we get paid to do something else whilst doing this instead. :whistle
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They just read forums and copy our poo. They get paid for it while we get paid to do something else whilst doing this instead. :whistle
Haha very funny post this. Cheers for the laugh.
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Old rag's still banging on about King.
Yeah we played like poo yesterday because one of the players who didn't even play had a cup of coffee with a mate in stuffing January.
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They're repeating the show tonight on GEM so I've updated and added more to my above post.
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Old rag's still banging on about King.
Yeah we played like poo yesterday because one of the players who didn't even play had a cup of coffee with a mate in stuffing January.
:lol :lol
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All about us tonight. On now.
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Summary:
* Caro said Richmond is a club at the crossroads. They need to change direction as the current direction they've been on isn't working and won't work.
* They played the "we've better than last year" comment of Dimma's and then two weeks later it changed to "we're not the side of last year". They also replayed the clip of Dimma a few weeks back saying we miss those three players and things would improve when they came back.
* Lloyd said if they lose to GWS then it will truly implode. He said Dimma was still probably upbeat a couple of weeks ago hoping Maric, Deledio and Rance coming back would make a difference but they've got two of them back and it clearly hasn't.
* Hutchy said Dimma looks lost for ideas. Caro said other clubs have worked out what Richmond did in 2013 and it seems Hardwick doesn't have a plan B. She still doesn't see Dimma being sacked and the Club isn't like that anymore.
* Caro reckons the loss of Leppitsch and Campbell has hurt and Dimma doesn't have the people good enough in the coaches' box around him. Got to also question the direction of the footy dept. and the footy director on the Board Tony Free.
* Hutchy singled up Peggy for being silent. Caro thought that was harsh. Lloyd asked what she brings to the table and Caro answered stability. Caro said it was a good thing she was silence. We should be looking instead at the players and footy dept. for the loss to Melbourne.
* They showed a heap of stats we are down in from last year.
Eff kicks down from 1st to 10th.
Scores 97.9 (5th) down to 80.6 (15th).
* Lloyd got stuck into Chaplin for his poor efforts when you need you senior players and leaders to display sureness and confidence.
* Caro said Vickery's heart doesn't look like it's in it and he needs to go back to the VFL to find out if he really wants to play AFL. They showed a clip of Pedersen taking that mark on the goal-line amongst about 3 tigers. It was Vickery's job to spoil it through but he was too concerned about himself. Likewise Houli didn't contest either.
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You know you're stuffed when these muppets make sense.
Think 90% of this forum said weeks, months ago that Hardwick failed when challenged for a Plan B. Many people said our issues were deeper than missing Deledio and Rance, as key as they are, not much they can do when our game plan stinks of short chipping possession rubbish.
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That clip they showed of the Pederson goal when Vickery just stood there doing nothing when he could've ran and spoiled it over the line was enough for me. He shouldn't play again this season and he should be delisted at seasons end. Absolute potato
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I Started laughing when I saw Grigg fall over and Viney got the ball and ran into an open goal. Fair dinkum Charlie Chaplin couldnt write stuff like that.
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That clip they showed of the Pederson goal when Vickery just stood there doing nothing when he could've ran and spoiled it over the line was enough for me. He shouldn't play again this season and he should be delisted at seasons end. Absolute potato
I always chuckle when a player gets called a potato. :lol
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FOOTY CLASSIFIED — NINE NETWORK
NOT surprisingly, Richmond was first cab off the rank as the panel tried to address what was wrong at Punt Road.
Matthew Lloyd, Garry Lyon, Craig Hutchison and Caroline Wilson agreed the 16th-placed Tigers were battling.
“They have GWS this week so they’re not at rock bottom yet,” Lloyd said.
“If they lose that one there’ll be big decisions made down at Punt Road.”
Wilson questioned the “football direction” of the club, saying Damien Hardwick had lost support — such as key assistant Justin Leppitsch — while football director on the board Tony Free had to be questioned.
Hutchison asked if we would hear from Richmond president Peggy O’Neal, while Lloyd went a step further.
“What does Peggy bring to the table as president that makes her a great president, or what can she bring?” he asked.
Wilson highlighted that O’Neal, the first female president in VFL/AFL history, had only been in the job six months.
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AFL 360 — FOX FOOTY
THE under-fire Tigers didn’t take long to be brought up and the lads agreed Richmond simply aren’t good enough.
Robbo suggested the Tigers needed to strip the game plan right back and “pick a theme” for the week.
“The stunning bit is the fall,” he said.
“If you think we’re having a big discussion on Richmond this week, if they get beaten by GWS next week, there will be carnage.”
Gerard agreed with Robbo but said “you have to know where you are”, and the Tigers may have drastically over-estimated their place on the premiership clock.
“I’m partially amazed ... (but) to me it looks real,” Gerard said.
“I think this is probably a real reflection of where it is ... they’re a poor team.
“They thought they were top-four material, and they’re a long way from that.”
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ON THE COUCH — FOX FOOTY
ATTENTION soon turned to Richmond and the panel agreed things have gone horribly wrong for the Tigers.
“I don’t think anyone can understand what’s gone wrong with this footy team,” Mike said.
The panel says there was a boldness about the Tigers of 2013, but something has gone wrong and coach Damien Hardwick and the footy world doesn’t know what.
“Maybe 2013 gave them a false sense of security about where they were and how good they were,” Jason said.
Stats show the Tigers have dropped right off in every area.
Mike wondered if the Tigers were crippled by fear in matches, while Gerard said he believed the coach will stand by his players this week ahead of the clash with GWS.
“I get the feeling he (Hardwick) is giving them one more chance,” Gerard said.
Jason thinks that would be the wrong move.
“To give them one more chance against a team languishing at the bottom, to me that doesn’t achieve anything,” Jason said.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-woes-headline-discussion-gazza-the-great-and-did-the-mrp-get-it-right/story-fnelctok-1226923356577
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Wonder what loose lips has to say tonight ;D
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Last night's show pretty much said GWS are terrible so Richmond and Jack have to back up this week against Essendon before proving anything.
Caro claimed some of the media commentary directed towards Peggy regarding her public silence prior to this week was motivated because Peggy was a female president rather than her being a new president. Lyon took exception to that as earlier in the year he said he made comments questioning Melbourne's new president Glen Bartlett credentials and no one said boo. Caro added that she didn't mean Lyon or Lloyd (who last week questioned what Peggy brought to the table and whom Peggy mentioned in her interview).
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AFL 360
RIEWOLDT finished with 11.2 against the Giants after a controversial week off the field.
The Richmond full forward dominated the headlines last week and could do again this week.
“Jack Riewoldt is not a bad person. He just finds himself in positions where he must ask himself, ‘how did I end up here?’,” Robinson said.
Whateley said Riewoldt responded in a manner typical of a big-time player and the Tigers were right in keeping him in the team.
“He responded in a manner that made you thought he’s there for the long haul,” he said.
“Sometimes I think you can punish the team by punishing the individual.”
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THOMPSON and Roos were asked for their take on the Jack Riewoldt comments and aftermath.
Roos said he didn’t like Riewoldt speaking out of line but praised the Tigers for their handling of the issue.
“I wasn’t comfortable with Jack but I though Damien’s response was fantastic. That line about taking his foot out of his mouth and my foot out of his arse,” he said.
“I thought it was well handled by Damien and the club. Jack obviously came out and played well.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gary-abletts-mrp-escape-paul-rooss-future-and-leon-cameron-on-monday-night-shows/story-fnelctok-1226932422900
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Roos said he didn’t like Riewoldt speaking out of line but praised the Tigers for their handling of the issue.
“I wasn’t comfortable with Jack but I though Damien’s response was fantastic. That line about taking his foot out of his mouth and my foot out of his arse,” he said.
And the saddest thing about this is when the truth is 'out of line.' Once upon a time there was a 'coach' if you will. And no one 'spoke out of line.' That 'coach' is George Lucas and as a result of everyone's subserviency he made 3 bastardo star wars prequels. Moral of the story, honest objective criticism is a good thing no matter how painful it is to swallow.
Jack's comments were a lot more encouraging than "we're a better team than last year"
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Caro really made a tit of herself last night ;D
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No surprise they started with us tonight ....
Summary:
* Hutchy asked Caro if Richmond are a wooden spoon contender and Caro said it's possible. Brisbane won on the weekend while GWS (against Hawthorn), Melbourne and the Bulldogs were very competitive.
* Lyon said Richmond is a club that can't handle success. All they were designed for was to make finals and not go higher. They were so desperate to finally break their drought that that's all they concentrated on rather than building to go further.
* They showed win/loss stats of our last 3 coaches and Hardwick's record over his 5 years isn't too different from his two predecessors. Caro acknowledged that prior to this year Dimma's record was heading in the opposite direction to Wallace and Frawley at the same period of their reigns.
W L D W%
Hardwick 42 55 2 43.43
Wallace 37 60 2 37.37
Frawley 45 54 0 45.45
* Caro said the history of Richmond rising one year and falling away immediately has gone longer than those coaches and longer than any other club. There's something findamentally wrong at that footy club.
* Lyon - Richmond are more comfortable chasing than being chased. They can't handle the pressure and spotlight of success. So they rather be chasers from outside the Eight where the spotlight is off them.
* Lloyd showed last year's recruiting ...
12. Ben Lennon (18 y.o.)
28.(became 32). Shaun Hampson (26 y.o.)
50. Nathan Gordon (24 y.o.)
66. Sam Lloyd (24 y.o.)
Rookie draft
11. Todd Banfield (23 y.o.)
27. Anthony Miles (22 y.o.)
42. Matt Thomas (27 y.o.)
... and said only one kid in Lennon was drafted. The rest were 24 year olds and other club rejects. They don't cost you much getting them but the point is they clog up your list. Lloyd said they must have foolishly considered themselves premiership contenders. Caro said they didn't consider themselves premiership material but definitely would've seen themselves as top 4 materal this year. Hutchy said they definitely rated themselves at least top 4.
* Lloyd also said there's a lack of support for Jack in the forward line. Vickery and Griffiths haven't come on, Elton and McBean haven't been seen while Aaron Edwards who may come in this week isn't the long-term answer either.
* Lloyd rates as elite - Dusty, Lids, Cotch, Jack and getting there - Ellis, Vlastuin, Lennon. Doesn't believe Conca is finding enough of the footy so didn't include him.
* Hutchy said 6 of the 9 above 28 years old will be purged at the end of the season. Only Maric, Chaplin & Jackson will survive.
* Lyon critical of the leaders. Players want Cotchin to be harder which is a statement in itself with players expecting others to do something rather than themselves. Caro said we don't have a Hodge or Selwood who can step up at critical times in a last quarter and get their side over the line in close games. Not Saturday night but Richmond has lost a number of close games in recent times and this year.
* Caro doesn't reckon Houli will play this week. Grigg and Jackson unlikely due to injury.
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Why no Houli ?
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Why no Houli ?
Because he's soft & useless?
Actually that's what keeps you in the side under Hardwick, so that can't be it.
Carry on.
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
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Why no Houli ?
Because he's soft & useless?
Actually that's what keeps you in the side under Hardwick, so that can't be it.
Carry on.
He's still a walk up
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Why no Houli ?
Because he's soft & useless?
Actually that's what keeps you in the side under Hardwick, so that can't be it.
Carry on.
He's still a walk up
He needs to wake up.
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
They are BLIND!
Of course it is the game plan!
Clearly the players don't like it!
GAME PLAN is the problem!
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
Yet on 360 or on the couch (one of them) they got stuck into west coast and their slow moving, badly skilled and low scoring game plan... sounds just like our gameplan to me.
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
Yet on 360 or on the couch (one of them) they got stuck into west coast and their slow moving, badly skilled and low scoring game plan... sounds just like our gameplan to me.
Interesting....
Simpson was at Hawthorn last year. Is he also trying to copy them?
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Could not handle the ridiculous smiling Matthew Loud..
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So Lloyd says we ' must've foolishly considered ourselves premiership contenders '
Well we finished 5th and his pox team finished out of the eight and who did they then recruit ? A 32 year old with paper hammies in Paul Chapman. Essendon must've ( even more foolishly than Richmond ) considered themselves premiership contenders.
**** off LLoyd you flog !
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Could not handle the ridiculous smiling Matthew Loud..
The smiling assassin :clapping Lordo
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So Lloyd says we ' must've foolishly considered ourselves premiership contenders '
Well we finished 5th and his pox team finished out of the eight and who did they then recruit ? A 32 year old with paper hammies in Paul Chapman. Essendon must've ( even more foolishly than Richmond ) considered themselves premiership contenders.
**** off LLoyd you flog !
They had their picks taken away from them didn't they? But you do make a good point, it's not like they got creative and traded for youth, like try and poach a player from GC or GWS.
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Why focus on Lloyd?
Everyone knows he's a flog and happy to see us in this predicament.
I just find it concerning that we find new lows and attain an even lower level of performance each time we lose like this which this season has been regularly.
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
In recent weeks they have been going quick but indirect, avg 18 bounces a game last month, that's a significant change from the stop start stuff earlier on, with Hampson and griff as key forwards they couldn't get a kick in a stampede what hope have we got. My mail is the top 4 draft picks are loaded with kpp talent, brace yourselves and let fj get to work :shh
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:banghead.Not one of them questioned dimmas game plan or the footy department unreal going backwards and sideways unlike last year quick and direct.
In recent weeks they have been going quick but indirect, avg 18 bounces a game last month, that's a significant change from the stop start stuff earlier on, with Hampson and griff as key forwards they couldn't get a kick in a stampede what hope have we got. My mail is the top 4 draft picks are loaded with kpp talent, brace yourselves and let fj get to work :shh
I'm hoping it's Luke Williams that actually does the work this year... :pray :pray :pray :pray
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FOOTY CLASSIFIED
Richmond was the major focus to begin the show.
Craig Hutchison said the contrast between the two halves was “stark” and North Melbourne’s leaders stood up when the game was on the line.
“Ziebell, Petrie, Harvey, Swallow got their hands dirty when the game was there to be won,” he said.
Melbourne great Garry Lyon said the decision to substitute Majak Daw at half-time was the catalyst.
“When Majak was subbed out ... it simplified it for everyone,” he said.
“It left Drew Petrie one out and Troy Chaplin panicked. He panicked, he grabbed jumpers, he gave away free kicks.”
Matthew Lloyd agreed: “They lost the plot.”
Caroline Wilson questioned the Tigers fitness and mentality.
“They’re not running out games,” she said.
“We saw it in the elimination final last year. We saw it in the previous game against Carlton last year.
“It just keeps happening. I don’t know whether it’s a lack of fitness or they’re just not willing to work hard enough.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-jobe-watson-the-mrp-and-collingwoods-win-were-major-talking-points-on-monday-night/story-fndv7pj3-1226948837378
They also spoke about how the two most disappointing sides this year - us and the Bulldogs - both unashamedly had admitted they had been following the methods of Hawthorn and Geelong respectively including having a number of staff from those clubs. In our case Hardwick, Ross Smith, Peter Burge, etc ... So our coaching and fitness staff were from Hawthorn. Hutchy questioned the logic of copying a trend that was two years old when you really need to be two years ahead of the trend to become successful.
I can't remember who said it, but someone in the media mentioned that the two main moves we had planned over the preseason was moving Newman forward and Dusty back. However, halfway through round 1 it was gone. So all that Richmond had planned and worked on over the summer was chucked out the window.
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Caro joked that Richmond should contest Vickerys charge so that he would get an extra week.
Funniest thing I have heard for a while.
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Sounds like someone here is writing Caro's jokes.
The thing that struck me was - if you look at the Geelong & Hawthorn gameplans and look at Footscray's & Richmond's (alleged) strengths & weaknesses - if anything, we should be copying Geelong & they should be copying Hawthorn. (Though I'd prefer we came up with our own ideas obviously.)
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of course she gets her stuff from here. She is not bright enough to come up with it herself. Keep feeding her ;D
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Sounds like someone here is writing Caro's jokes.
The thing that struck me was - if you look at the Geelong & Hawthorn gameplans and look at Footscray's & Richmond's (alleged) strengths & weaknesses - if anything, we should be copying Geelong & they should be copying Hawthorn. (Though I'd prefer we came up with our own ideas obviously.)
About as much sense as you've ever made, I too have thought that the Geelong way would suit our personnel , especially so at the mcg upteen times a year :shh
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FOOTY CLASSIFIED
...someone in the media mentioned that the two main moves we had planned over the preseason was moving Newman forward and Dusty back. However, halfway through round 1 it was gone. So all that Richmond had planned and worked on over the summer was chucked out the window.
like throwing two rubber turds at a dartboard those moves.
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of course she gets her stuff from here. She is not bright enough to come up with it herself. Keep feeding her ;D
Hi Caro!
:veryhappy
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Lloyd said at the start of the show he's going to have a good look at Cotchin tonight and show where Trent could and should be doing more.
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Listening to Scott talk about being honest with senior players about performances and where ey stand in relation to where the club needs to go ie chapman, and pods. Reason being bc they have faith their young guys will come in in the future even if they have to wear some short term pain. Would our coach do the same thing? Given that he's openly stated he doesn't rate our youngsters obviously not.
Why is it teams like hawks, cats pies will rebuilding the run giving young blokes a fair go but our coach talks about there not being much eft to bring in.
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Listening to Scott talk about being honest with senior players about performances and where ey stand in relation to where the club needs to go ie chapman, and pods. Reason being bc they have faith their young guys will come in in the future even if they have to wear some short term pain. Would our coach do the same thing? Given that he's openly stated he doesn't rate our youngsters obviously not.
Why is it teams like hawks, cats pies will rebuilding the run giving young blokes a fair go but our coach talks about there not being much eft to bring in.
He's a numpty /story
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Lloyd said at the start of the show he's going to have a good look at Cotchin tonight and show where Trent could and should be doing more.
Didn't provide much, nothing we don't already know
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Lloyd said at the start of the show he's going to have a good look at Cotchin tonight and show where Trent could and should be doing more.
* Lloyd said he doens't like the way Richmond plays. They play a possession game which is alright if you're going forward but they constantly go backwards and sideways.
* In Lloyd's opinion, Cotchin is the worst culprit of this sideways/backwards footy. Too many short dinky kicks and looking for the 1-2s. Lloyd showed a few examples. The last one, Cotch had a chance to break the line and run 20m forward through the centre but he handballed sideways to Chaplin and then ran sideways across and in front of Chaplin expecting the ball back on the wing (Chaplin ignored him and just ran forward through the corridor).
* Cotchin had just 9 metres per disposal vs Sydney (his season avg is 16). Lloyd said Cotchin needs to be re-trained by Hardwick to get him out of this sideways/backwards footy.
* Caro said Richmond's confidence is shot. They don't take the game on.
* Lyon said he's in a different camp to the others. He believes Richmond went into the game with a specific plan to deny Sydney the footy.
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Lloyd said at the start of the show he's going to have a good look at Cotchin tonight and show where Trent could and should be doing more.
* Lloyd said he doens't like the way Richmond plays. They play a possession game which is alright if you're going forward but they constantly go backwards and sideways.
* In Lloyd's opinion, Cotchin is the worst culprit of this sideways/backwards footy. Too many short dinky kicks and looking for the 1-2s. Lloyd showed a few examples. The last one, Cotch had a chance to break the line and run 20m forward through the centre but he handballed sideways to Chaplin and then ran sideways across and in front of Chaplin expecting the ball back on the wing (Chaplin ignored him and just ran forward through the corridor).
* Cotchin had just 9 metres per disposal vs Sydney (his season avg is 16). Lloyd said Cotchin needs to be re-trained by Hardwick to get him out of this sideways/backwards footy.
* Caro said Richmond's confidence is shot. They don't take the game on.
* Lyon said he's in a different camp to the others. He believes Richmond went into the game with a specific plan to deny Sydney the footy.
Clearly the crew at FC have been trawling this forum for info and facts ;D
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Lloyd said at the start of the show he's going to have a good look at Cotchin tonight and show where Trent could and should be doing more.
* Lloyd said he doens't like the way Richmond plays. They play a possession game which is alright if you're going forward but they constantly go backwards and sideways.
* In Lloyd's opinion, Cotchin is the worst culprit of this sideways/backwards footy. Too many short dinky kicks and looking for the 1-2s. Lloyd showed a few examples. The last one, Cotch had a chance to break the line and run 20m forward through the centre but he handballed sideways to Chaplin and then ran sideways across and in front of Chaplin expecting the ball back on the wing (Chaplin ignored him and just ran forward through the corridor).
* Cotchin had just 9 metres per disposal vs Sydney (his season avg is 16). Lloyd said Cotchin needs to be re-trained by Hardwick to get him out of this sideways/backwards footy.
* Caro said Richmond's confidence is shot. They don't take the game on.
* Lyon said he's in a different camp to the others. He believes Richmond went into the game with a specific plan to deny Sydney the footy.
Just for the record I never liked the way Lloyd played either
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Off topic for a moment
Last night was the first time id seen the footage of Yaegar Omeara push Allen Christensen into the contest and I was disgusted. Then they him 2weeks earlier doing the same thing. What a soft, pee weak excuse for a bloke. And the fact hes recieved no penalty is disgusting .
Am I being to hard on him or is that warranted/ accepeted?
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Off topic for a moment
Last night was the first time id seen the footage of Yaegar Omeara push Allen Christensen into the contest and I was disgusted. Then they him 2weeks earlier doing the same thing. What a soft, pee weak excuse for a bloke. And the fact hes recieved no penalty is disgusting .
Am I being to hard on him or is that warranted/ accepeted?
No way he was aiming to push him into the contest, was just looking to get out over the back
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Thought it was shellfish from Caro
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Off topic for a moment
Last night was the first time id seen the footage of Yaegar Omeara push Allen Christensen into the contest and I was disgusted. Then they him 2weeks earlier doing the same thing. What a soft, pee weak excuse for a bloke. And the fact hes recieved no penalty is disgusting .
Am I being to hard on him or is that warranted/ accepeted?
Im of a similar view, his actions can cause damage, needs to stop doing this gutless act
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Off topic for a moment
Last night was the first time id seen the footage of Yaegar Omeara push Allen Christensen into the contest and I was disgusted. Then they him 2weeks earlier doing the same thing. What a soft, pee weak excuse for a bloke. And the fact hes recieved no penalty is disgusting .
Am I being to hard on him or is that warranted/ accepeted?
Agree with you
Could cause major damage if he's not careful
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He s deadset little idiot that o'meara , he knows what he s doing , for the afl to neglect that when he s a serial offender says plenty.....if it where the. 70s , a king hit would be forthcoming next time :shh
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Gold Coast golden boy.
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Gold Coast the Golden Footy Club.
Flags by 2018 or bust. :help
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Yes a decade of manufactured domination by manufactured clubs from non-AFL markets with no fans isn't going to hurt the game at all.
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This is the problem our game has had for the last 10 years.
There is no rule against it so why not do it?
Next year there will be a rule that doesn't allow players to push other players into the contest.
Same with tunnelling which happened quite a bit for a while. Same with chopping the arms in contests. Same with sliding into contests to get the ball first. Same with raising arms to force tackler to make high contact. Same with dropping the knees to force tackler to give away 'Push in the back Free kicks". Same with the Jake King dropping the knees when tackled to get a high tackle. Every envelope is being pushed to find an advantage.
Players and coaches try everything and anything to get an advantage. Don't think O'Meara is 100% trying to injury an opponent but it certainly puts the opponent out of play and if he gets injured or corked for even 15 seconds than its a win for the club and off they go.
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Lyon and Hutchy said that Cotchin will respond to Lloyd's criticism on tonight's show.
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Only a couple of snippets about us on last night's show.
Hutchy asked Lloyd if Vickery had currency on the trade market. Lloyd replied he wouldn't trade Vickery. He added Vickery's game against Brisbane was Ty's best he'd even seen and he witnessed Vickery contest and do things on the weekend that he hadn't seen from Vickery before. Richmond should persist with him.
Caro in good call/bad call said Richmond and Jake King should part ways at the end of the season. King's best is long past him.
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There were three segments on us tonight ....
* Lloyd reckons Vickery will get 4-5 weeks. No more than that. Caro said Cotch would want his time again regarding his comments post-game (ie. saying an opposition player going down was good for us). Lyon added he knew what Cotch was trying to say but he chose a poor choice of words. Hutchy said it's a catch-22: if you criticise your teammate like Jordan Lewis did, the coach bags you; if you stick up for your teammate then everyone else bags you.
* Lloyd said Maric's comments (i.e. about training standards slipping) sum up a young team that was happy to make the finals last year, got ahead of themselves and though it was all just going to happen. It also reflects on the coaching panel who clearly had Richmond playing a different gameplan to the one they are playing now. Unfortunately for Richmond, it all too late and it's another wasted season.
* Caro also took a whack at Richmond in her "arrow" segment. If only they had turned up against Melbourne in that big game after Tommy's passing; if only they turned up in the first half against the Bulldogs, etc .... The 4 wins in a row including impressive wins against Port and the Eagles in Perth just show how much Richmond the team has let down its supporters this year. How could they!
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Did we really change the gameplan ?
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l suppose Caro is full of energy when someone in her family passes away & that she will not going to shed a tear when writing about it. Give it a rest Caroline
Everyone was hit hard by Tommy Hafey's passing. Not just because of what he did for football but Tommy went out of his way to help & give support to many. Them players would have been choked up before the game. That sucks the energy out of anyone.
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A couple of comments about us tonight:
* Hutchy asked Lloyd if these late wins are fool's gold and there's the risk Richmond will think the early season 'form' was an aberration? Lloyd replied that they can't go down the path again of recruiting mature players. They need to keep building and recruiting more kids and back them. Lyon added Richmond hasn't yet shown they can handle the pressure of expectation that comes with winning and perform. Ever since Frawley was coach they have struggled with expectation when they made a Preliminary Final and then weren't seen in the finals again for a very long time.
* On the back of Vickery and Conca's suspensions, Hutchy asked if Hardwick has a disciplinary problem with his playing group. Caro said Hardwick has obviously pushed the playing tough and hard message but it's come off the wrong way spectacularly. They also showed vision of Dusty dumping Bugg off the ball on the weekend. Lyon said they need to stop acting as peanuts as there's nothing tough about chasing a guy 5m away on the boundary as he is going off and clocking him in the back of the head; Tough is going hard at the footy. Lloyd said you could see Conca just had anger in his eyes and he was lucky he didn't do more damage. Caro agreed it did look very nasty.
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A couple of comments about us tonight:
* Hutchy asked Lloyd if these late wins are fool's gold and there's the risk Richmond will think the early season 'form' was an aberration? Lloyd replied that they can't go down the path again of recruiting mature players. They need to keep building and recruiting more kids and back them.
I agree with Lloyd here. We need to ensure we use our first three picks at minimum this year on the draft. It is an uncompromised draft and runs deep from all accounts. I think we did extremely well with our rookie draft but the mature age players we brought in using our draft picks have been a disappointment imo.
Lyon added Richmond hasn't yet shown they can handle the pressure of expectation that comes with winning and perform. Ever since Frawley was coach they have struggled with expectation when they made a Preliminary Final and then weren't seen in the finals again for a very long time.
we don't handle the big games well that's true but considering we have only been in the finals once since Frawley took us there its a bit rich to say expectation is the thing that is keeping us down. I think its a little more than that.
On the back of Vickery and Conca's suspensions, Hutchy asked if Hardwick has a disciplinary problem with his playing group. Caro said Hardwick has obviously pushed the playing tough and hard message but it's come off the wrong way spectacularly. They also showed vision of Dusty dumping Bugg off the ball on the weekend. Lyon said they need to stop acting as peanuts as there's nothing tough about chasing a guy 5m away on the boundary as he is going off and clocking him in the back of the head; Tough is going hard at the footy. Lloyd said you could see Conca just had anger in his eyes and he was lucky he didn't do more damage. Caro agreed it did look very nasty.
I know they get payed a lot of money to make a mountain out of a mole hill but I think those comments are ridiculous. Conca had a brain fade and reacted after being angry about the way he was roughed up moments before. If he had of hit him in the back with his arm, like I'm guessing he intended, this would be a non issue. Trying to say that the last two weeks point to a much greater problem is bs.
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Tonight's segment on Richmond:
* Nice for a change to have the media bag another club (GWS) and their lack of player development for delisting and letting a good player (Miles) end up at Richmond.
* Lyon still hasn't got over Scully walking out of Melbourne to go to GWS and put up a stat showing Miles is well ahead of Scully in avg. disposals, avg. kicks, clearances and contested footy. They also included a stat showing that Miles earns around $430 per disposal compared to Scully's $3,300. So Miles is value for money. Caro said she expects Miles to sign a new two-year deal in a couple of weeks time.
* On Richmond as a team specifically, Lloyd said there's definitely be a change in their gameplan from earlier in the season to now. He showed vision of the Swans game with the continually chipping of the ball sideways and backwards. He mentioned in that game Richmond scored 1 goal from 250 possessions (in the last half and a bit). In his opinion, Jack Riewoldt was right and Richmond was trying to emulate Hawthorn and it wasn't working. In the last 6 weeks, Richmond have gone back to that hard contested footy and moving the ball quickly that they do best and it's working for them. Lloyd showed another clip from Friday night of Houli, from the kick-in, kicking long to Griffiths who kicks long to Jack on the wing; Jack then turns quickly and goes long inside forward 50 giving Lids a 1-on-1 marking contest which sets up the first goal of the night and gets Lids on his way.
* Out of interest, we're on top of the form ladder from the past six weeks:
Rich 6-0
Geel 6-0
Syd 5-1
Haw 5-1
Adel 4-2
Freo 4-2
North 3-3
WCE 3-3
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Ess 3-3
Carl 3-3
WB 3-3
Bris 3-3
Coll 2-4
GC 2-4
Port 1-5
St K 1-5
GWS 0-6
Melb 0-6
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How the stuff do Geelong win 6 in a row aswell and goes unnoticed
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How the stuff do Geelong win 6 in a row aswell and goes unnoticed
Because it's expected from them. It's a novelty for us.
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
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Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
In case it hasnt been said before HTF wasnt he promoted earlier
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
Have you watched Collingwood lately?
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Yesssss Big Nafe :clapping
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Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
In case it hasnt been said before HTF wasnt he promoted earlier
Just stupid by [insert Dimma, recruiters, club etc] I say! He should have been promoted as soon as be was rookied. Anyone could see he was going to be better than [insert player name here]. :shh
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Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
In case it hasnt been said before HTF wasnt he promoted earlier
Just stupid by [insert Dimma, recruiters, club etc] I say! He should have been promoted as soon as be was rookied. Anyone could see he was going to be better than [insert player name here]. :shh
correct :thumbsup
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
Have you watched Collingwood lately?
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Yesssss Big Nafe :clapping
Where's the Holden badge
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probably did more at vfl level than some seniors achieved in the afl but was still ignored
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Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
In case it hasnt been said before HTF wasnt he promoted earlier
Just stupid by [insert Dimma, recruiters, club etc] I say! He should have been promoted as soon as be was rookied. Anyone could see he was going to be better than [insert player name here]. :shh
I'm struggling to buy Into this "miles had to play twos, even when the seniors lost ten games in the early part of season. Due to developing his game in the reserves."
It would be more believable IMO if at the same time there was not a number of senior player not getting dropped regardless of shyte form. What good for the goose is not so good for the gander at punt road it seems
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
Have you watched Collingwood lately?
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Yesssss Big Nafe :clapping
Excuz Moy, moy noymes Noyfn. Have you soyeen moy koys?
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I'm struggling to buy Into this "miles had to play twos, even when the seniors lost ten games in the early part of season. Due to developing his game in the reserves."
It would be more believable IMO if at the same time there was not a number of senior player not getting dropped regardless of shyte form. What good for the goose is not so good for the gander at punt road it seems
They would have brought him in earlier but they could not elevate him earlier after already elevating the Big O and Thomas. He was really a victim of circumstances in many ways. Maric went down so the Big O was elevated as insurance leaving only one spot open. Thomas and Miles were both brought in to fill the same role. Thomas was the more experienced, consistent and proven of the two so he was given the nod.
If the decision had of been left a few more weeks so the club could see Miles perform over more than a few practice games, the club may have chosen Miles instead. The club chose the safer option with both rookie elevations. I can't blame the club for that.
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
Have you watched Collingwood lately?
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Yesssss Big Nafe :clapping
Where's the Holden badge
Joffa swiped it. :shh ;D
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The wheels really have fallen off for Port - 1-5 and Gold Coast 2-4. We need the wheels to fall of for the Crows, West Coast, Essendon and Collingwood now. Is that too much to ask :shh
Miles was a great get now wasn't he :thumbsup
Have you watched Collingwood lately?
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Yesssss Big Nafe :clapping
Excuz Moy, moy noymes Noyfn. Have you soyeen moy koys?
I think they wedged themselves between ya t@s. :shh
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They're going to talk about Richmond next after the ad break.
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* Lyon loved the win and the efforts of our small forwards (showed Gordon's goal in the last). To go over to Adelaide, be headed and then comeback and win showed real character. The frustrating thing is where was this earlier in the year. Gives credence to Maric's comments about standards being poor at the start of the year. Caro said she's not so sure about the "poor standards" line as Richmond was a team looking for answers to what went wrong and the club has given about 5 different excuses yet Ivan's comments were the one everyone jumped on. Lyon replied he listens only to what the players say and they said standards were poor.
* Caro and Lloyd said it was our best win. Caro added earlier in the season Richmond were unwatchable but now they are playing exciting footy to watch.
* Lloyd disagreed with the points in Lyon's article as the main reasons why we struggled earlier in the year. Lloyd blamed the change in gamestyle and so the blame goes on Hardwick for that.
* Hutchy said the tough decisions (on the list) still have to be made at the end of the season.
* They asked each other if the Swans would rest players against Richmond in round 23. Lloyd said you rest genuinely sore players but aside from that you don't fool around with form going into the finals. Caro added Richmond has to beat St Kilda first in Lenny Hayes' final game in Melbourne and who beat Freo.
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* Lyon loved the win and the efforts of our small forwards (showed Gordon's goal in the last). To go over to Adelaide, be headed and then comeback and win showed real character. The frustrating thing is where was this earlier in the year. Gives credence to Maric's comments about standards being poor at the start of the year. Caro said she's not so sure about the "poor standards" line as Richmond was a team looking for answers to what went wrong and the club has given about 5 different excuses yet Ivan's comments were the one everyone jumped on. Lyon replied he listens only to what the players say and they said standards were poor.
* Caro and Lloyd said it was our best win. Caro added earlier in the season Richmond were unwatchable but now they are playing exciting footy to watch.
* Lloyd disagreed with the points in Lyon's article as the main reasons why we struggled earlier in the year. Lloyd blamed the change in gamestyle and so the blame goes on Hardwick for that.
* Hutchy said the tough decisions (on the list) still have to be made at the end of the season.
* They asked each other if the Swans would rest players against Richmond in round 23. Lloyd said you rest genuinely sore players but aside from that you don't fool around with form going into the finals. Caro added Richmond has to beat St Kilda first in Lenny Hayes' final game in Melbourne and who beat Freo.
What was Garry's line on Melbourne?
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What was Garry's line on Melbourne?
Blackest day for the club in a long time, worse loss in recent times. Cannot defend it any way shape or form. Supports Roos but blamed the players, suggested they've given up on the season and are happy with their "improvement" this year. Questioned how much they've actually improved.
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Aaaaawwwww three goals in a game of footy is Ok especially when they have been ravaged with injury and playing a quality side
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What was Garry's line on Melbourne?
Blackest day for the club in a long time, worse loss in recent times. Cannot defend it any way shape or form. Supports Roos but blamed the players, suggested they've given up on the season and are happy with their "improvement" this year. Questioned how much they've actually improved.
Yes blackest day in a long time, since Round 2 last year when they lost by 148 points to Essendon. :lol :rollin :lol
What a Hairy Malaka.
Melbourne has 5 of the blackest day you can imagine each season.
5 real black days.
About half a dozen dark dark grey days.
With the rest including a few wins and a few games of WGAF.
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:lol
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ahh a lil bit of pee came out lol
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On now.
Lyon began by saying they are eating humble pie (after the show replayed all their comments about us from earlier in the year when we were struggling).
Caro said Football needed a bit of romance and Richmond delivered it.
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Lyon only played one decent year.
He was dirty then and he still is.
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Lyon only played one decent year.
He was dirty then and he still is.
I didn't realise he was lebanese. Is that true?
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He's french
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He's french
pronouced Leon as in the city?
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Lyon only played one decent year.
He was dirty then and he still is.
I didn't realise he was lebanese. Is that true?
Yes, as Lebanese as Cedar.
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I didn't get a chance to watch it because I don't own a TV. Could someone give me a summary on RFC business please?
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I didn't get a chance to watch it because I don't own a TV. Could someone give me a summary on RFC business please?
I got my old Grammys 32 cm you can have, unfortunately it is Analogue but beggars can't be choosers
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Thanks for your generosity Chuck. I live in a fairly small 1bdr apartment so I opted to get a projector to hook up to my laptop as opposed to a TV. I went to the footy classified site but they only had bits and pieces of the episode so I feel like I missed out on solid RFC talk. I'm not a huge fan of Carolyn Wilson but I did like her comments about the anti- Peggy O'Neil discussion earlier this year
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FOOTY CLASSIFIED (CHANNEL 9)
THE show kicked off with a scathing assessment of Richmond’s loss to Port Adelaide in Sunday’s elimination final.
“They failed a big exam yesterday,” Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd said. “They were exposed against a brutal Port Adelaide that wanted it more.”
ed: Lloyd also said our deficiencies were exposed for all to see.
Melbourne champion Garry Lyon added: “People say they played nine elimination finals. That’s not right. They played nine home and away games. If they don’t address the loss, they’ll sit on a nine-game winning streak and go into the pre-season contented.”
Journalist Caroline Wilson took a more sympathetic view on the Tigers.
“They’ll get a pass mark for 2014. While they capitulated at the Adelaide Oval, where they were two months ago, you have to give them a pass mark,” she said.
“There’s 18 teams in the competition, so at least they can take some solace they were able to fight back from a wooden spoon situation.
ed: Hutchy gave our season a 'fail'. He said the expectation at the start of the year was Richmond had to win a final to show improvement and they failed miserably to do that on Sunday.
Lyon then showed vision of three clips of Dusty where he didn't work defensively and was desperate enough at the loose ball - first was being bumped off the ball by one of the lightest Port players on the wing; the second one was a failure to chase a opponent through the centre square; and the third one was Dusty just jogging back towards our back-half while Port players streamed past him and forward into space.
Lyon was likewise critical of Chaplin. Lyon said Chaplin would've known, after all the talk midweek about that email, that he had to play at full ferocity at the contest but he didn't. They showed a couple of soft efforts to tackle early on in the game and the bit where he was pushed to/fell to the ground which resulted in a goal to Port.
Lyon said the loss wasn't all Dusty and Chaplin's fault but it reflected a poor mindset throughout the team going into a cut-throat elimination final.
http://www.news.com.au/national/what-you-missed-on-tv-last-night-mitch-clark-richmond-and-north-melbourne-dominate-agendas/story-e6frfkp9-1227052051495
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Lyon and Lloyd need to worry about there teams as both haven't got the balls to say it how it is regarding them.
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Have no problem with what they said, think most on here have articulated the same thing
Only difference is they were able show the vision to back what they were saying
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On the money with Martin
His turnovers in the middle of the ground set Port up
After watching the replay
Midfielders who don't get back to support the back line usually ends up in the defeat we had
It was like a tidal wave with a blowing Gale behind it
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I wonder if Dustin was actually fit after his issues late in the season.
Looked very stiff and sore and could barely get out of a jog.
Also knocked over a couple of times which is unheard of.
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I wonder if Dustin was actually fit after his issues late in the season.
Looked very stiff and sore and could barely get out of a jog.
Also knocked over a couple of times which is unheard of.
Could be onto something TBR. His last two weeks have been really poor after a great season.
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I wonder if Dustin was actually fit after his issues late in the season.
Looked very stiff and sore and could barely get out of a jog.
Also knocked over a couple of times which is unheard of.
Yeh I reckon Dusty has been laboring a bit with injury. He could barely raise a gallop on Sunday.
As for Lloyd's comments ? He along with Blobbo on AFL360 ripped right into Richmond. Absolutlely gave it to us. I'd be ok with that coz we deserved it BUT... at no stage in either of the programmes did Lloyd or Blob make a single comment about Essendon's woeful capitulation against North the night before. I think they were rapt Richmond stuffed up because it meant they could avoid talking about their pathetic club.
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I'm happy if people want to be brutal.
At the end of the day it's the player's fault. Richmond stank ten times as bad as Essendon.
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On the money with Martin
His turnovers in the middle of the ground set Port up
After watching the replay
Midfielders who don't get back to support the back line usually ends up in the defeat we had
It was like a tidal wave with a blowing Gale behind it
Reckon and I've said this many times our blokes just don't work hard enough when they don't have the ball. They refuse to gut run defensively. It's made worse when a tsunami hits like it did Sunday and have no leaders who don't seem to know what to do
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Richmond stank ten times as bad as Essendon.
Don't agree with that at all.
We got belted by a rampant Port on their dungheap. It was always a chance to happen after nine wins in a row. We were out of petrol tickets. Port blitzed us from the start and I don't reckon any team would've stopped them the way they played. We did well to get it back to 50 odd points in the end.
Essendon totally crapped the bed at home on a ground that North had only played on a handful of times in the past 5 years.
Both losses were bad. My point was , if you're a media critic and you're gonna rip into Richmond in the way that both those Essendon blokes did then you might want to have a little look in your own backyard at some point.
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Dustin shouldn't have been moved out of the square. Clearly injured. Lets run him into the ground, its the Richmond way ::)
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Reckon and I've said this many times our blokes just don't work hard enough when they don't have the ball. They refuse to gut run defensively. It's made worse when a tsunami hits like it did Sunday and have no leaders who don't seem to know what to do
Many times they refuse to run offensively too....
Gut running is running 50 to 120 metres just to be an option...then doing it again and again...
Cant remember which show - might have been AFL360 - showed Ebert run from his defensive 50 metre arc line...diagonally across the ground to his offensive 50 metre arc line..past an ambush (collectively noun) of tigers...to be an option up fwd..got the ball and resulted in a goal...
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Reckon and I've said this many times our blokes just don't work hard enough when they don't have the ball. They refuse to gut run defensively. It's made worse when a tsunami hits like it did Sunday and have no leaders who don't seem to know what to do
Many times they refuse to run offensively too....
Gut running is running 50 to 120 metres just to be an option...then doing it again and again...
Cant remember which show - might have been AFL360 - showed Ebert run from his defensive 50 metre arc line...diagonally across the ground to his offensive 50 metre arc line..past an ambush (collectively noun) of tigers...to be an option up fwd..got the ball and resulted in a goal...
yep selfless running. Its all about creating an option over and over again even if you don't get used - the ultimate selfless play and why a lot of players stay on afl lists when fans call for their head. We've never had a side that runs like that
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Richmond stank ten times as bad as Essendon.
Don't agree with that at all.
We got belted by a rampant Port on their dungheap. It was always a chance to happen after nine wins in a row. We were out of petrol tickets. Port blitzed us from the start and I don't reckon any team would've stopped them the way they played. We did well to get it back to 50 odd points in the end.
Essendon totally crapped the bed at home on a ground that North had only played on a handful of times in the past 5 years.
Both losses were bad. My point was , if you're a media critic and you're gonna rip into Richmond in the way that both those Essendon blokes did then you might want to have a little look in your own backyard at some point.
Spot on Dice. And both Blobbo and the deep sea Diver continue to ignore the obvious elephant in the room, that their rotten club chose to shoot jungle juice into their veins to gain an edge over the competition. NOTHING will EVER stink as much as that.
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I honestly believe a lot of our players looked cooked from the outset. Kicking into the wind was mental. The flaccid tackling attempts made me want to do violence
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Many times they refuse to run offensively too....
Gut running is running 50 to 120 metres just to be an option...then doing it again and again...
Cant remember which show - might have been AFL360 - showed Ebert run from his defensive 50 metre arc line...diagonally across the ground to his offensive 50 metre arc line..past an ambush (collectively noun) of tigers...to be an option up fwd..got the ball and resulted in a goal...
Agree
The Ebert vision you are talking about was shown on Footy Classfied highlighted by Lloyd
It seems to me when things are going well we do the gut running offensively a lot more but when things are crap we refuse to do it both ways
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Seriously you didn't need vision to see that we were crapola.
Hymie and Gaddy throw in muppet Hutchy telling all sundry that we were this and that.
Those 3 should be loaded into a boat and sent to Syria.
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LOL I haven't heard him called Hymie in ages
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special episode on now.
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special episode on now.
Anything to relay to us?
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special episode on now.
Anything to relay to us?
Nothing about us. The main topics last night were Robbie Flower's passing, the Essendon/Hird circus, Gold Coast (McKenna sacking/next coach) & the flaws with free agency.
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Also, Matty Lloyd was nowhere to found
Had Barrett on instead
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Also, Matty Lloyd was nowhere to found
Had Barrett on instead
So did we have Barrett , Hutchinson and Caroline Wilson all in the same room ?
What a shame they weren't interviewing someone who unwittingly had the Ebola virus.
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We lost this week so of course we're getting a whole segment on Richmond tonight - "Damien Hardwick under the pump" is one of the leading headlines.
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Tonight's summary about Richmond:
Caro said it was a terrible loss. The Club didn't see it coming. The team has consistently failed when it loses a key player or two. We saw that last year when Rance & Deledio were missing early on in the season. Deledio was missing against the Bulldogs on Saturday and Richmond lose again.
With Lids 27 wins 16 losses 63%
Without Lids 1 win 4 losses 20%
Lloyd basically said there's little depth after the top few. Lose Riewoldt and who kicks Richmond's goals? Lose Rance and who holds up the defence? Nothing much left in the midfield after Cotchin, Deledio & Martin.
Hutchy said the Bulldogs are closer to a flag than Richmond. Richmond won't win a flag and are a 6th-10th team with that personnel. Richmond have built a team/list for short-term wins whereas the Dogs have built there list for long-term success. The Dogs have the best U23 list by far excluding the expansion clubs and will win a flag in 4-5 years.
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Don't watch this any more either.
You should try it.
Footy shows are aimed at morons.
You're not a moron so don't watch it.
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What a bunch of flogs, Hutchy has always been for the now, you watch in a few weeks time when the Bulldogs lose their next 3 or whatever, he will change his view. Always just comments on the week at hand and makes ridiculous calls based on it. The Bulldogs will finish bottom 6, why not focus on the million dollar man who can't take a mark. Building for long term success, please spare me Hutchy
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The bulldogs have won 1 flag in 100 years. Won't change
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What a bunch of flogs, Hutchy has always been for the now, you watch in a few weeks time when the Bulldogs lose their next 3 or whatever, he will change his view. Always just comments on the week at hand and makes ridiculous calls based on it. The Bulldogs will finish bottom 6, why not focus on the million dollar man who can't take a mark. Building for long term success, please spare me Hutchy
Totally agree
Dogs finish bottom 4 actually
Boyd is a dead set hack
If you can't run in today's game you won't last long
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Tonight's summary about Richmond:
Caro said it was a terrible loss. The Club didn't see it coming. The team has consistently failed when it loses a key player or two. We saw that last year when Rance & Deledio were missing early on in the season. Deledio was missing against the Bulldogs on Saturday and Richmond lose again.
With Lids 27 wins 16 losses 63%
Without Lids 1 win 4 losses 20%
Lloyd basically said there's little depth after the top few. Lose Riewoldt and who kicks Richmond's goals? Lose Rance and who holds up the defence? Nothing much left in the midfield after Cotchin, Deledio & Martin.
Hutchy said the Bulldogs are closer to a flag than Richmond. Richmond won't win a flag and are a 6th-10th team with that personnel. Richmond have built a team/list for short-term wins whereas the Dogs have built there list for long-term success. The Dogs have the best U23 list by far excluding the expansion clubs and will win a flag in 4-5 years.
all the "footy experts" are just flogs that say anything to suit the flavour of the week. It was only 1 week ago after the carlton game that everyone was going on about how we now have 2nd tier guys who can step up after cotchin, deledio and martin were all well held...with hunt, macintosh and ellis leading the way....
idiots
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I nearly throw up just seeing those flogs there. Haven't ever got past about 5 min of that show without turning over. Absolute garbage.
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Hymie is all out of sorts. :shh
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Talking Footy used to be a good show early on when David Parkin or Blighty might talk about the direction of the game or what type of young men the system is creating. Now all the shows I see are talking fluff.
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Our CEO Brendan Gale will be on Footy Classified tonight
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What times it start ? ::)
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Hope Caro gives it to him
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Our CEO Brendan Gale will be on Footy Classified tonight
I bet this interview was booked weeks ago, Benny probably thought we would be 4 zip, or at the worst 3-1 :lol Bad luck Benny.
I'm looking forward to the bit where he is forced to explain why we haven't participated in free agency yet except for giving away players for free.
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
Taylor hunt was delisted i believe
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So was Chaplin. Port are still laughing at us
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So was Chaplin. Port are still laughing at us
Pretty sure he was a restricted free agent
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
Knights has played 5 games from 50. :help
The Skata Cycle. 33 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
Picking up reserves players from other clubs is not participating, I thought we were one of the 'big 4', why would a big 4 club scour other clubs reserves in free agency. You can get them for free. We can afford to get a big gun and I have high expectations that we can get Paddy.
I guess your right about Chaplin's contract though, restricted free agency, pfft, I call it overbidding for spuds.
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What a load of nonsense that was, no questions of substance and no real answers by Gale. It's just a nothing show
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
Knights has played 5 games from 50. :help
The Skata Cycle. 33 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™
The Q was why haven't we recruited any FA :o I thought I answered it , I didn't see the part how many games have they played ::)
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Troy Chaplin , Chris Knights and Taylor hunt say hello :lol
Picking up reserves players from other clubs is not participating, I thought we were one of the 'big 4', why would a big 4 club scour other clubs reserves in free agency. You can get them for free. We can afford to get a big gun and I have high expectations that we can get Paddy.
I guess your right about Chaplin's contract though, restricted free agency, pfft, I call it overbidding for spuds.
I like your avatar Dcrane. That bird is shifty, and all teeth and eyebrows. A bit like us minus the teeth
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Some of what Benny said on Footy Classified last night ...
Tigers could add depth through free agency, says Gale
Giulio Di Giorgio
afl.com.au
April 27, 2015 11:55 PM
RICHMOND is aiming to bolster its midfield depth and is open to the possibility of signing a free agent, Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale says.
Richmond was close to signing Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove in last year's trade period, but the former Demons skipper failed a last-minute fitness test after he re-aggravated a navicular injury in his left foot.
Gale said the Tigers have not ruled out trading or securing a free agent at season's end, with attacking midfielders at the top of their list.
"If there was something there that met our needs – and we know what they are – we would actively pursue that opportunity, but at the same time, we would continue to invest in the draft as well," Gale told Channel Nine on Monday night.
"Midfielders that can go forward (and) kick goals, or small forwards that can go (in the) midfield and offer depth and run are worth their weight in gold.
"It's probably an area where we struggled; any ability to win the ball off the deck in the forward 50 has been a bit of an issue for us.
"I would’ve thought that's an area we'll focus on, but there's people smarter than me that'll make those decisions."
The club decided to pursue Trengove last season because he would have added to the Tigers' midfield depth, Gale said.
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Gale said he remained confident defender Alex Rance would remain at Punt Road beyond this year, but admitted he was "surprised" to find out the unrestricted free agent was considering retiring from the game.
"At no stage in our discussions with Alex's representatives was this [retiring] ever raised," he said.
"I'm not surprised that he might choose to keep that to himself, but Alex has given us no indication that he's interested in leaving Richmond.
"I'm confident Alex Rance is going to be a Richmond player for many years to come."
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The Tigers succumbed to Melbourne by 32 points last Friday night, with experienced men Brett Deledio, Troy Chaplin and Chris Newman all missing through injury.
Gale said the trio's absence was "one factor" to take into account for the disappointing result.
"It's not an excuse but it's one factor that might go into explaining why we dished up what we did," he said.
"At best, at full strength, we're a reasonable football team, we're not a great football team.
"But when we don't have our best out on the park (and) we have injuries, I think we fall away talent-wise and that's not an excuse, that it is what it is."
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Gale said captain Trent Cotchin was the right man to lead Richmond after his appointment in November 2012.
"He had all the attributes that we thought were required to be a good captain," he said.
"But we understood the need to invest in not just him, but the capability of our entire leadership group and I hear commentary around on-field leadership, well, it was lacking on Friday night.
"Our leadership's a work in progress."
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The pressure on coach Damien Hardwick has also mounted following the Tigers' less than impressive start to season 2015.
But Gale said Hardwick's contractual status had not changed and the club would honour the terms of his contract until the end of 2016.
"It's a contract and (there's) expectation that he'll see that contract through," he said.
"We want to see continued improvement and by implication that would mean we make finals and win a final.
"But if we don't make finals – and I'm certainly not conceding that to start – there's a whole range of other factors that you need to take into account; this is a shared responsibility at this football club."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-27/tigers-could-add-depth-through-free-agency
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Benny also said:
* The loss to Melbourne was very disappointing. Thought we were in the game up to half time but we were poor in second half. We had our youngest side on the park since 2012 but that didn't excuse the lack of effort.
* In terms of off-field and the business we're doing well but the footy side was always going to be the hardest part to get right. Since 2010, we've turned over more players than another other club and we've had to do it with compromised drafts. We knew when we started that there would be challenging times at various stages. We're in one at the moment.
* At our best, we're a good side but not a great side. He agreed with Caro that we were around a 6th-10th side. Benny said we lack depth and once we get a few injuries, we fall away in talent. We need to add more to our list.
* Benny said we've improved year on year since 2010. Caro chipped in and disputed that. She said last year was worse than 2013. In 2013, Richmond finished 5th, while last year you just scraped into 8th spot and was flogged by Port Adelaide in the Elim. final. Gale replied that from the position we were in last year, to rise up and make back-to-back finals for the first time in a long time for the Club plus add new players, was an improvement. Benny added, that his point was that we expected improvement again this year and so 2-2 is not where we want to be.
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How many players has Roos tuned over in one year?
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Benny, it is obvious we need a quality, fully fit ruckman and a close checking small defender who can hold his feet but let's not upset the incumbents eh?
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When Caro made the comment that members/supporters had been patient, very patient
Benny said that yes they had, the club understands that and that the Club doesn't take it members for granted :chuck
Please spare me Benny :banghead
Not a glimmer of an apology to said members for last week. Yep you don't take us for granted
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why would he apologise? he is just running the club line.
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Benny, it is obvious we need a quality, fully fit ruckman and a close checking small defender who can hold his feet but let's not upset the incumbents eh?
yep, everyones a bit too comfy down there, wouldn't want to upset the applecart
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Shambles
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When Caro made the comment that members/supporters had been patient, very patient
Benny said that yes they had, the club understands that and that the Club doesn't take it members for granted :chuck
Please spare me Benny :banghead
Not a glimmer of an apology to said members for last week. Yep you don't take us for granted
I have emailed Benny and Dimma three times in the past 3 weeks without a single reply, of course they take us and more importantly, our money for granted
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When Caro made the comment that members/supporters had been patient, very patient
Benny said that yes they had, the club understands that and that the Club doesn't take it members for granted :chuck
Please spare me Benny :banghead
Not a glimmer of an apology to said members for last week. Yep you don't take us for granted
I have emailed Benny and Dimma three times in the past 3 weeks without a single reply, of course they take us and more importantly, our money for granted
mate no offense, but I'm paying for them to do their jobs and not reply to emails.
I would be concerned if they were replying to all emails and not concentrating on fixing this problem
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When Caro made the comment that members/supporters had been patient, very patient
Benny said that yes they had, the club understands that and that the Club doesn't take it members for granted :chuck
Please spare me Benny :banghead
Not a glimmer of an apology to said members for last week. Yep you don't take us for granted
I have emailed Benny and Dimma three times in the past 3 weeks without a single reply, of course they take us and more importantly, our money for granted
mate no offense, but I'm paying for them to do their jobs and not reply to emails.
I would be concerned if they were replying to all emails and not concentrating on fixing this problem
That's assuming they even believe there is a problem :rollin
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Is saying we lack depth an attack on Hartley and Jackson? We shouldn't lack depth. We've been in a recruiting phase for 4 years. Benny is saying we have recruited duds.
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if it beneath RFCO to have a presence on this site then there is no way in hell they are going to reply to emails
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Here's the video clip of Benny Gale's interview on FC for those that missed it:
http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/footyclassified/latest/2015/april/brendon-gale-in-the-hot-seat/
or
http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/footyclassified/videos/4200702965001/
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Sensationalist questions with no real substance.
Benny was too comfortable.
Everything he says is now seems to be losing its initial gloss.
Getting really dull and bleak really.
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Sensationalist questions with no real substance.
Benny was too comfortable.
Everything he says is now seems to be losing its initial gloss.
Getting really dull and bleak really.
Is this due to a form of Tigeritis that effects Richmond admin staff? :help
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Sensationalist questions with no real substance.
Benny was too comfortable.
Everything he says is now seems to be losing its initial gloss.
Getting really dull and bleak really.
It's called unchallenged spin
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Sensationalist questions with no real substance.
Benny was too comfortable.
Everything he says is now seems to be losing its initial gloss.
Getting really dull and bleak really.
Is this due to a form of Tigeritis that effects Richmond admin staff? :help
Both. Tigeritis (used with permission) has not been cured as yet far from it.
Comfort in mid table mediocrity is always a major contributing factor.
In so many words history will judge the futility of this tenure as the ones that preceding it dating all the way back to 1980.
Pink Floyd's 1979 album The Wall is given to all staff members with the song Comfortably Numb played on repeat.
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Aside from the Rance stuff,
Lloyd talked about Richmond over the past 3 weeks now having two gamestyles of play that we switch between; whereas against North we were just continually reckless with long kick off or across half-back which resulted in giving North 90 pts from our turnovers.
* The first style is quick hands and spread and going long directly into F50 (eg: the play that lead to Cotchin's first goal on Saturday night).
* The second style is tempo footy. Being able to hold onto the ball and cut through opposition zones & presses a la Hawthorn by foot with precise short passes.
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What a load of cr@p Footy Classified is, a lot of pumped up Prima Donnas speculating on nothing, also obvious they all have no respect for Hutchy, and why would they.
No wonder so many players end up with depression.
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Don't start a thread without telling those who didn't watch what they said
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We only have one gamestyle
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We only have one gamestyle
yes and that is...... The Richmond way :shh
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Why are there two threads on FC?
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2 threads have been merged
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What a load of cr@p Footy Classified is, a lot of pumped up Prima Donnas speculating on nothing, also obvious they all have no respect for Hutchy, and why would they.
No wonder so many players end up with depression.
Sounds like a coach at the RFC.
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2 threads have been merged
thank you WP, as a side note when searching for topics it takes a long time to come up, is it my impatience or is the prob there is too much data to sift through??
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2 threads have been merged
thank you WP, as a side note when searching for topics it takes a long time to come up, is it my impatience or is the prob there is too much data to sift through??
I find changing it to only search in the last year or two significantly speeds up searching :thumbsup. But you're right, it takes a long time otherwise.
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2 threads have been merged
thank you WP, as a side note when searching for topics it takes a long time to come up, is it my impatience or is the prob there is too much data to sift through??
Lot of data to search through, like dwaino suggested try limiting your search that certainly speeds things up
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forum search is poo.
try using google and search this site only
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Footy Classified
Caro had a dig at Basil about the bias commentary. She said it hardly can be a Freo comeback when they kick a goal and they are still 6 goals down.
Garry Lyon asked Lloyd if coaches can go in and out of form like players. Lloyd replied yes and credit to Hardwick for being able to change things up during the season and getting the playing group to respond as well as they have.
Lyon quipped that he wasn't surprised we won as Richmond is the most dangerous side to play against when they aren't expected to win.
Talking Footy
Our forward line stats this year. Low inside 50 numbers but we're the most efficient at scoring once it gets in there:
Inside 50s 16th
Score per In50 1st (52%)
Accuracy 3rd
On the Couch
RICHMOND was next on the agenda after inflicting the first defeat of the season upon Fremantle at Subiaco.
The trio (Gerard Healy, Jason Dunstall, Jonathan Brown) were full of praise for the Tigers and coach Damien Hardwick, who just a month ago was under severe pressure to keep his job.
“They’ve turned their season around in the space of four weeks,” Healy said.
“They’re having a lot less inside 50s, but they’re not being scored against as much.” Dunstall continued. “It means they’re set beautifully to keep attacking because they’re in position to create their own turnovers.”
Meanwhile, Brown suggested they were now “one of the teams vying for that final top four position”.
http://www.news.com.au/national/james-hirds-future-tom-mcdonald-on-travis-cloke-chris-judd-injured-what-you-missed-on-tv-last-night/story-e6frfkp9-1227388859181
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No Caro last night so we didn't get much of a mention. They just revisited Lloyd questioning Lids on the Sunday Footy Show about Richmond needing to win a final this year for the season to be classed as a success. Lids refused to get sucked into creating a back page headline for the media and just stuck to his guns about how all sides want to make and win finals.
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We won so we only got a brief segment on last night's show:
* They put up a graphic with our excellent interstate record since R1, 2014. Lloyd said that's all well and good but Richmond have to also win in Melbourne. Lyon added it was no surprise Richmond won when no one expected them to and that what Lloyd is saying is Richmond now has to win the games they are expected to win to cement themselves as a genuine contender.
* They next spoke about how Hardwick has been in good coaching form. An example from the weekend was being able to create a mismatch which had Jack Riewoldt on Rampe.
* The 3 talls up forward has made a big difference to earlier in the season. It frees Jack up. When you've won 5 of your last 6, it also says your midfield is firing, so Jack is getting fed a lot of the ball.
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A special episode of Footy Classified is on tonight after the cricket. Caro will have a big vindicated smile while Lloyd will still be in tears ;D.
It'll be mostly about the Essendon verdict but there might be a chance someone will bring up the Dusty story.
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:rollin dusty come on down
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Just said Caro will be giving an update on the other biggest story of the summer....
Dustin Martin
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Caro saying Dusty won't be suspended
Her sources saying he didn't threaten to stab her with a chopstick
Announcement Thursday or Friday
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Caro saying Dusty won't be suspended
Her sources saying he didn't threaten to stab her with a chopstick
Announcement Thursday or Friday
hallelujah :cheers
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Would like to see the woman named and shamed of the allegations were false.
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Would like to see the woman named and shamed of the allegations were false.
Caro did say he was drunk and abusive but no chopstick threats were made
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It's it against te law to be drunk?
It is wrong to be abusive when some middle age hag has a go at you ... Calls you over, for peeing too often...
I wonder if the Caro death threats will die down now...
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Barrett tonight said Richmond needs to go after Lachie Whitfield at the end of the season if we don't get Dion Prestia.
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Barrett tonight said Richmond needs to go after Lachie Whitfield at the end of the season if we don't get Dion Prestia.
Sounds reasonable but we all know we will end up with an opposition's deadwood who our recruiters believe are a rough diamond.
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Barrett tonight said Richmond needs to go after Lachie Whitfield at the end of the season if we don't get Dion Prestia.
Whitfield is built like a twig. We need grunt and maturity. Prestia needs to be a target for this reason.
Guys like Lids who are 28-29+ are in danger of missing whatever 'window' we supposedly have if we keep bringing in B and C grade hacks and skinny teenagers - so either recruit with him in mind (IE chase a flag now while he can contribute) or trade him while he has currency.
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Prestia will probably sign on by mid season ending any speculation. Would be a massive pick up though, and exactly what we need, another elite midfielder.
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Prestia will probably sign on by mid season ending any speculation. Would be a massive pick up though, and exactly what we need, another elite midfielder.
He looked good on the weekend. But then Steven Sziller would have looked good against Essendon during that game,
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Hurley is a greater priority.
Prestia and Hurley would be great!
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Barrett tonight said Richmond needs to go after Lachie Whitfield at the end of the season if we don't get Dion Prestia.
Get both :shh
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Prestia is four foot two.
Some people already whinging our mids too short
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Hurley and Jaeger
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Hurley and Jaeger
Wowee!!
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Hurley and Jaeger
Need to be convinced of O'Meara's fitness first , prefer Prestia atm for that reason or Heppell if he's still really disgruntled with Essendon- and with both he & Hurley being classified as free agents I'd grab them and try and trade for Tomlinson as well, in fact I still would even if we just got Hurley & had to trade for one of the GC mids.
Obviously we need a decent ruck as well.
Also quite interesting that Brandon Matera wasn't picked for GC last week......wanted a release last year and will probably leave at the end of this year - if he stays out of favour for the season he might come relatively cheap. Serious talent.
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Hurley and Jaeger
don't want Jaeger, he has the same injury that C.Knights had
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Lol @ gablett rubbing caros pregnant belly, askin if she's wants him to bless the child
edit: open mike, not FC
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Hurley and Jaeger
don't want Jaeger, he has the same injury that C.Knights had
I'd take him in a heartbeat. Along with Hurley.
One can only dream.
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Hurley and Jaeger
How about Richards and Jaeger?
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Can we throw Cripps in there as well
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Can we throw Cripps in there as well
Why not?!
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Hogan or Cameron too pls
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What bout a bloody ruckman for sits and giggles
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Barrett tonight now saying GWS has fought off rival club offers and Lachie Whitfield will be re-signing with them in 3-4 weeks.
A lot must have changed in the past 3 days eh Damian ::).
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Lol ratboi :shh
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Easy fix about Brandon Ellis.
DROP HIM if he has no idea & does circles then turns the ball over
DROP HIM
DROP HIM
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Play him at FHO.
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Lol ratboi :shh
The guy loves bagging us even over nothing ::).
Barrett - "It's not a big issue, but there's an issue amongst 'some' Richmond players about favouritism shown towards Rance over the Club allowing him to return to preseason training in January while the rest had to start in November. Same issue at St Kilda with Nick Riewoldt."
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Easy fix about Brandon Ellis.
DROP HIM if he has no idea & does circles then turns the ball over
DROP HIM
DROP HIM
Matty Lloyd said that vision of Brandon showed a side that was not working together nor to a system.
He showed other examples of us going backwards as first option. One of Hunt kicking 20m backwards and then another Tiger kicking sideways across the ground where the ball was spoiled out of bounds by an Eagle. Lloyd said that's why he was critical of Cotchin two weeks back because he's also got into the Richmond habit of going backwards and sideways first. The top sides are moving the ball forward quickly this year while Richmond are going backwards first.
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You watch the game and this is why Im critical of Hardwick, on most occasions thier frist instinct is to look sideways or backwards..
MAybe because they are coached and trained like this, we need to switch it up and get some players ahead of the ball and train like this so the first intinct is not always ring a rosy.
Drives me batty.
Used Martin as a perfect example against the cows the other week, when inside 50 on the run a player like martin if not (or even when) hemmed in on the boundary is have a frign shot!
Not look to pass it of just for the sake of it.
We aint superstars, but we are a lot better than what we are at the moment.
If we take Melbourne on try and kick a decent score, will be a good game. If we play the oher way, could be a looong disgusting night. :banghead
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What they highlighted last night wasn't player errors, it was gameplan. Pack ya bags Hardwick.
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Lol ratboi :shh
The guy loves bagging us even over nothing ::).
Barrett - "It's not a big issue, but there's an issue amongst 'some' Richmond players about favouritism shown towards Rance over the Club allowing him to return to preseason training in January while the rest had to start in November. Same issue at St Kilda with Nick Riewoldt."
I agree except for maybe Nick. He's an old boy who's been around for years and his sister passed away last year. Let him take some time away.
But all Rance wants is to get away from footy and because he's a good player he was allowed. Ask any other player and I'm sure they want to get away from footy too
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Players who get extended time away from the club & mainly attending to injuries or personal life issues.
That could be anything from a ill family member, A new baby, Injuries that require complete rest, weddings, friends weddings, home sickness, Death of family member or friend, Time out because they have spent time around a sick child in hospital with terminal illness which most do. Holiday, Moving or Building a house. Whatever, the club allows many things. We only guess unless we know them personally. As long as they come back to work & give 100% that is all that counts.
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Lol
No doubt the players upset About favouritism are the hacks aka Dimmas mates
Well done to rance this week, for saying the truth him, chimp, jack usual play well plodders suck
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If you honestly think our stars are all performing you are delusional
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Footy Classified
Caro said she can't see Richmond resurrecting their season.
She said, there's no trust amongst teammates. Coach quite desperate at 3/4 time talking to Dustin Martin. No urgency at 3/4 time to turn things around. Ill-discipline by the leaders as demonstrated by Rance whacking Watts in the back of the head.
The Club misread where they are at the end of last year by sticking with what they had and not bringing in new assistants.
They put up a chart of our trades and free agents in recent years and Hutchy said these mature players have played at the expense of developing youngsters.
Talking Footy
Watson said at ground level Richmond looked disorganised on Sunday night. They didn't seem to know when to press up or push back and got caught out of position. The Tigers are too easy to score against. Outnumbered at the contest and Melbourne always had a player free over the top. In the commentary on the night, it was mentioned there were a number of times when there were many Demons on their own.
Carey said the Tigers are so down on confidence and it comes down to not winning the contests. When you don't have confidence in the your teammates to win the 50/50 ball at the coalface then you don't run to position and don't run forward of the ball. You become too defensive.
Criticism of Cotchin has died down as he's been their best player the past two weeks. He needs others to stand up and help him out.
Something wrong with Dustin Martin last night. He was off and they needed to speak with him at quarter-time breaks.
Who Shouldn't be at Richmond next year?
Carey said Chaplin.
Darcy said Hampson.
Carey asked if the problem was Richmond didn't clear out some players last year. Watson said they brought in Townsend but he's not going to take them to where they need to go. Tim also said Carey chose the low hanging fruit in saying Chaplin will be gone but then said it was too early in the season to rule a line through their name.
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Outnumbered at the contest and Melbourne always had a player free over the top.
How does this keep happening? It's not like our players push forward because we never have anything to kick to. It is seriously like we are playing with less people on the field.
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Outnumbered at the contest and Melbourne always had a player free over the top.
How does this keep happening? It's not like our players push forward because we never have anything to kick to. It is seriously like we are playing with less people on the field.
This is the biggest bugbear of mine. We are just a dumb dumb footy side with little footy iq.
Its amazing how often opposition sides seem to have more players at the initial fall of the ball, then our lagging players all sprint to get to the contest and as easy as you like, a quick handball over the top and theyre away... Further to that - the times we have more players at the ball say a 3 or 4 on 1, we seem to regularly give away a ridiculous needless freekicks which kills any opportunities. Both these occurances seem to happen on a regular basis every game.
I believe our players are so fixated on guarding space and playing zones that they have forgotten how to gut run both ways and actually read the flow of the game. Watching players chase for 10-15 metres then point the finger for someone else to take over further up the ground bc they are entering their space has bred laziness and selfishness
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Talking Footy
Something wrong with Dustin Martin last night. He was off and they needed to speak with him at quarter-time breaks.
I seriously think the deportation of his dad is having a larger toll on him than the club is letting on. Like the whole GWS saga I think from memory Dustin said don't blame Ralph, he entertained the idea because GWS would be closer to his dad?
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Talking Footy
Something wrong with Dustin Martin last night. He was off and they needed to speak with him at quarter-time breaks.
I seriously think the deportation of his dad is having a larger toll on him than the club is letting on. Like the whole GWS saga I think from memory Dustin said don't blame Ralph, he entertained the idea because GWS would be closer to his dad?
Yep, thats what he said @ the BnF
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Talking Footy
Something wrong with Dustin Martin last night. He was off and they needed to speak with him at quarter-time breaks.
I seriously think the deportation of his dad is having a larger toll on him than the club is letting on. Like the whole GWS saga I think from memory Dustin said don't blame Ralph, he entertained the idea because GWS would be closer to his dad?
Looked rather unimpressed with te senior coach at 3/4 time
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Dusty's mind is clearly elsewhere at the moment, if things keep going as they are I wouldn't be surprised if he is given a short leave of absence, would be consistent with the way the season has planned out so far.
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Edwards > martin
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What was said at 3QT between Martin and Hardwick?
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What was said at 3QT between Martin and Hardwick?
Dimma charged over to him straight from the box to try gee him up
Dusty looked non interested and keep walkin away...
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What was said at 3QT between Martin and Hardwick?
Dimma charged over to him straight from the box to try gee him up
Dusty looked non interested and keep walkin away...
Really I must have been watching a different game.
He walked over to him and they walked away from the huddle and spoke one on one.
Not sure how you've come up with your version.
Oh wait yes I do :whistle
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I lip read.
Hardwick was asking him which were the better nightclubs his sons could frequent safely. Dusty told him he doesn't go to the safe ones! :snidegrin
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I lip read.
Hardwick was asking him which were the better nightclubs his sons could frequent safely. Dusty told him he doesn't go to the safe ones! :snidegrin
:lol
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What was said at 3QT between Martin and Hardwick?
Dimma charged over to him straight from the box to try gee him up
Dusty looked non interested and keep walkin away...
Really I must have been watching a different game.
He walked over to him and they walked away from the huddle and spoke one on one.
Not sure how you've come up with your version.
Oh wait yes I do :whistle
AS THEY WERE SPEAKING dusty looked disinterested an try to end the speech early by walking away
Watch it again
Smacked of "I know what your good to say whateve"
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From last night's show:
Barrett said the internal review is already underway and has been going for a week, no matter what Richmond says.
Barrett also said Richmond is trying to retrofit Hardwick's tenure from when he arrived. The initial plan when Dimma arrived was to win 3 flags by 2020 and now we've got Dan Richardson talking about 8-year rebuilds and saying they always knew these mature recruits wouldn't win them a flag. Caro said the RFC basically met their first 5-year plan: it was 3 finals in 5 years and they did it in 6; they cleared their debt; and they achieved 70k members. The 3 flags by 2020 was more aspirational.
Barrett questioned the heirarchy for re-appointing Dimma, and he and Lloyd felt the Club were now making the assistant coaches and recruiters scapegoats. Barrett added that Hardwick backed the top-up recruiting and Hutchy said if Dimma goes that will be the thing that will define his time as coach. Lloyd added that Hardwick wanted harder bodies (i.e. Townsend) and when the coach says he wants this type of player then the recruiter can't say no.
Caro said she hasn't heard of any names getting the sack but she expects those who have been at the club for a number of years in Lade and both Mark Williams will be under the pump. The footy department personnel are out of contract at the end of this year.
She said Benny Gale and Dan Richardson will make the decision on who goes.
Lloyd said Richmond have to rebuild. His view of our list and who he would trade/delist:
Untouchable A-graders: Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty.
A-graders open to trade: Deledio (now 29) and Shane Edwards. Lloyd added that you need to give up something good to get an early pick or a good player in return.
Tradeable: B.Ells, Vlastuin, Conca, Vickery, Lennon.
Cloggers: Chaplin, Hunt, Morris, Hampson, Townsend, A.Moore.
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Lloyd said Richmond have to rebuild. His view of our list and who he would trade/delist:
Untouchable A-graders: Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty.
A-graders open to trade: Deledio (now 29) and Shane Edwards. Lloyd added that you need to give up something good to get an early pick or a good player in return.
Tradeable: B.Ells, Vlastuin, Conca, Vickery, Lennon.
Cloggers: Chaplin, Hunt, Morris, Hampson, Townsend, A.Moore.
Heard Lloyd and saw his "lists" of who should stay who should go. Said we should de-list Ben Elton and Liam McBean. He said Richmond wont play them (can Ben Elton kick?) so therefore they should go
Also explained that the reason you don't trade Cotchin is because he is the captain and "you don't trade your captain". Also said you'd trade Lids oe Edwards because they'd get you a pick inside the top 20.
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Richmond traded there captain in Jeff Hogg back in the 90,s and got gems in return in Broderick and M Gale
Guess what , we played finals in 1995
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I guess it depends what you get. I don't think you'd risk trading Cotchin for picks, there would have to be a player/s involved.
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From last night's show:
Barrett said the internal review is already underway and has been going for a week, no matter what Richmond says.
Barrett also said Richmond is trying to retrofit Hardwick's tenure from when he arrived. The initial plan when Dimma arrived was to win 3 flags by 2020 and now we've got Dan Richardson talking about 8-year rebuilds and saying they always knew these mature recruits wouldn't win them a flag. Caro said the RFC basically met their first 5-year plan: it was 3 finals in 5 years and they did it in 6; they cleared their debt; and they achieved 70k members. The 3 flags by 2020 was more aspirational.
Barrett questioned the heirarchy for re-appointing Dimma, and he and Lloyd felt the Club were now making the assistant coaches and recruiters scapegoats. Barrett added that Hardwick backed the top-up recruiting and Hutchy said if Dimma goes that will be the thing that will define his time as coach. Lloyd added that Hardwick wanted harder bodies (i.e. Townsend) and when the coach says he wants this type of player then the recruiter can't say no.
Caro said she hasn't heard of any names getting the sack but she expects those who have been at the club for a number of years in Lade and both Mark Williams will be under the pump. The footy department personnel are out of contract at the end of this year.
She said Benny Gale and Dan Richardson will make the decision on who goes.
Lloyd said Richmond have to rebuild. His view of our list and who he would trade/delist:
Untouchable A-graders: Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty.
A-graders open to trade: Deledio (now 29) and Shane Edwards. Lloyd added that you need to give up something good to get an early pick or a good player in return.
Tradeable: B.Ells, Vlastuin, Conca, Vickery, Lennon.
Cloggers: Chaplin, Hunt, Morris, Hampson, Townsend, A.Moore.
I am assuming same the bundle of sticks Mathew
was fairly stoked with essendon resigning 28/29 year old hooker for 5 years @ 5 million odd ?
Dons knocking on the door to success ?
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No surprise after a bad loss, we end up the leading talking point. Richmond rates.
Anyway, they went to town on us tonight.
* Hutchy and Barrett brought up the mixed messages coming out of the club this season. They replayed the conflicting public comments over the past 3 months from Gale, Dimma, Dan Richardson and Peggy.
* Barrett brought up Dimma saying only two weeks ago that this was the best list he's had in his time at Richmond which is extraordinary given they are currently 4-7 after 7 years under Hardwick. Hutchy said Dimma has overrated his players and that him talking finals is a sign of a coach who lacks job security as opposed to Ross Lyon who openly is rebuilding Freo's list.
* Caro replied that the public message is very different to how the Club sees itself internally. They know they are miles off. The likes of Carlton and Melbourne have gone past them. She believes there will be a major shake-up in terms of recruiting and development. Hutchy accused Caro of hyperbole given the Club's public comments. Caro answered back that the Club has to manage what it says after Dan Richardson's comments that upset certain players and assistant coaches. Hard to discuss rebuild and people's positions at Round 7.
* Hutchy said Richmond have to go into rebuild mode. If Dimma is still aiming for finals then he is kidding himself. Hutchy once again mentioned it as a sign of job insecurity because Dimma only has 2 years left on his contract after this year. Caro chipped in and quipped to Hutchy that is he calling for another two years for Hardwick. Hutchy replied back no but Dimma has the next 11 weeks to bite the bullet and play the list. Caro replied that 1.5 years is long enough to turn things around. She used Carlton under Bolton as an example of what can be done in short time if the correct stipulations and processes are put in place.
* Lloyd agreed that finals are out of the question and that Richmond needed to go into rebuild mode. He repeated what he said earlier on 3aw:
Looking ahead to the back end of the year, Matthew Lloyd believes it is time to really find out about the quality of Richmond's list, even it it means losing a game or two along the way.
"I would prefer to drop games, by finding out about players in different roles," Lloyd said on Sports Today.
"It might be playing Rioli in a certain role... They've just got to find out about those guys, even if it costs them wins."
Sitting on four wins with a low percentage, the Tigers haven't reached the heights they expected to this year.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has maintained the list quality throughout the difficult stages this season, but Lloyd doesn't agree.
"I think they've overrated their list for far too long."
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/richmond-must-explore-new-player-positions-lloyd-20160606-gpcy8t.html
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No surprise after a bad loss, we end up the leading talking point. Richmond rates.
Anyway, they went to town on us tonight.
* Hutchy and Barrett brought up the mixed messages coming out of the club this season. They replayed the conflicting public comments over the past 3 months from Gale, Dimma, Dan Richardson and Peggy.
* Barrett brought up Dimma saying only two weeks ago that this was the best list he's had in his time at Richmond which is extraordinary given they are currently 4-7 after 7 years under Hardwick. Hutchy said Dimma has overrated his players and that him talking finals is a sign of a coach who lacks job security as opposed to Ross Lyon who openly is rebuilding Freo's list.
* Caro replied that the public message is very different to how the Club sees itself internally. They know they are miles off. The likes of Carlton and Melbourne have gone past them. She believes there will be a major shake-up in terms of recruiting and development. Hutchy accused Caro of hyperbole given the Club's public comments. Caro answered back that the Club has to manage what it says after Dan Richardson's comments that upset certain players and assistant coaches. Hard to discuss rebuild and people's positions at Round 7.
* Hutchy said Richmond have to go into rebuild mode. If Dimma is still aiming for finals then he is kidding himself. Hutchy once again mentioned it as a sign of job insecurity because Dimma only has 1.5 years left on his contract. Caro chipped in and quipped to Hutchy that is he calling for another two years for Hardwick. Hutchy replied back no but Dimma has the next 11 weeks to bite the bullet and play the list. Caro replied that 1.5 years is long enough to turn things around. She used Carlton under Bolton as an example of what can be done in short time if the correct stipulations and processes are put in place.
* Lloyd agreed that finals are out of the question and that Richmond needed to go into rebuild mode. He repeated what he said earlier on 3aw:
Looking ahead to the back end of the year, Matthew Lloyd believes it is time to really find out about the quality of Richmond's list, even it it means losing a game or two along the way.
"I would prefer to drop games, by finding out about players in different roles," Lloyd said on Sports Today.
"It might be playing Rioli in a certain role... They've just got to find out about those guys, even if it costs them wins."
Sitting on four wins with a low percentage, the Tigers haven't reached the heights they expected to this year.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has maintained the list quality throughout the difficult stages this season, but Lloyd doesn't agree.
"I think they've overrated their list for far too long."
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/richmond-must-explore-new-player-positions-lloyd-20160606-gpcy8t.html
Hasent Dimma got 2.5 years left?
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Hasent Dimma got 2.5 years left?
Sorry, typo ;D. It is 2.5 years left (until end of 2018). I've fixed it. Hutchy meant Dimma only has two years after this if he wastes now still chasing a final appearance.
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glad to see these muppets at least publicly called out the conflicting messages that have been coming out of our club
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Richmond traded there captain in Jeff Hogg back in the 90,s and got gems in return in Broderick and M Gale
Guess what , we played finals in 1995
Poor example.
Jeff Hogg was finished as a footballer (through injury) and Richmond knew it.
Cotchin is heading into his prime.
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Hasent Dimma got 2.5 years left?
:'(
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We lost badly = lots about Richmond on last night's show.
* Matthew Lloyd said Richmond should offload 13 players. Players in yellow to be delisted.
Chaplin
Hunt
McBean
McKenzie
Townsend
Lennon
Griffiths
Elton
Maric
A.Moore
Morris
Conca
Vickery
* Caro spoke about the review being a major one.
- Hardwick will 3 assistant coaches will be moved on at the end of the season as they are out of contract.
- Recruiting has been woeful. Expect major changes there.
- Club recognises there's a cultural problem. The team continually fails in pressure games.
* Lloyd said the problems at Richmond are a mixture of both list management and coaching.
* Barrett said he would've moved Hardwick on and not re-signed him earlier in the year.
* Hutchy said he supported the re-signing at the time as you can always pay the coach out and cut your loses. It's no big deal. Caro added that Dimma is safe this year but if Richmond are in the same position next year then it's unlikely he will see out the final year of his contract.
* Hutchy added that he sees coaching (tactics & development) as a bigger problem than the list. They are too easy to play against. Opposition clubs believe Richmond spreads too wide and are easy to cut through and score against. They also see Richmond's gameplan as outdated. The gamestyle is unsustainable.Not all coaches are great tacticians, so they need to bring in a top tactician to help Dimma rebuild the gameplan. He added Richmond has the best top 6 of the teams outside the Eight so they don't need a total rebuild. Barrett chipped in that we fall away quickly after our best 6.
* Hutchy mentioned that Hardwick believed he had the best list in his time as coach, however they don't have the players. He asked Caro if Dimma should carry the can for that? Caro defended that statement as selling "hope" earlier in the year to instill belief in his players and that all coaches do it. She added that the more real (honest) Dimma was on display after the game. The one positive after a result like Friday night is that the pretence is over.
* Caro agreed development has been poor. Hutchy said he could think of 15 Bulldogs who have come on under Beveridge whereas you would struggle to come up with one at Punt Rd under Hardwick's reign. Perhaps Grimes and he's no star.
* Lloyd said Richmond are nowhere near a premiership. Their record said Richmond has 8 weeks to play their list. McBean should be given 4 weeks to show what he can deliver at AFL level; not just one week and dropped.
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We lost badly = lots about Richmond on last night's show.
* Matthew Lloyd said Richmond should offload 13 players. Players in yellow to be delisted.
Chaplin
Hunt
McBean
McKenzie
Townsend
Lennon
Griffiths
Elton
Maric
A.Moore
Morris
Conca
Vickery
* Caro spoke about the review being a major one.
- Hardwick will 3 assistant coaches will be moved on at the end of the season as they are out of contract.
- Recruiting has been woeful. Expect major changes there.
- Club recognises there's a cultural problem. The team continually fails in pressure games.
* Lloyd said the problems at Richmond are a mixture of both list management and coaching.
* Barrett said he would've moved Hardwick on and not re-signed him earlier in the year.
* Hutchy said he supported the re-signing at the time as you can always pay the coach out and cut your loses. It's no big deal. Caro added that Dimma is safe this year but if Richmond are in the same position next year then it's unlikely he will see out the final year of his contract.
* Hutchy added that he sees coaching (tactics & development) as a bigger problem than the list. They are too easy to play against. Opposition clubs believe Richmond spreads too wide and are easy to cut through and score against. They also see Richmond's gameplan as outdated. The gamestyle is unsustainable.Not all coaches are great tacticians, so they need to bring in a top tactician to help Dimma rebuild the gameplan. He added Richmond has the best top 6 of the teams outside the Eight so they don't need a total rebuild. Barrett chipped in that we fall away quickly after our best 6.
* Hutchy mentioned that Hardwick believed he had the best list in his time as coach, however they don't have the players. He asked Caro if Dimma should carry the can for that? Caro defended that statement as selling "hope" earlier in the year to instill belief in his players and that all coaches do it. She added that the more real (honest) Dimma was on display after the game. The one positive after a result like Friday night is that the pretence is over.
* Caro agreed development has been poor. Hutchy said he could think of 15 Bulldogs who have come on under Beveridge whereas you would struggle to come up with one at Punt Rd under Hardwick's reign. Perhaps Grimes and he's no star.
* Lloyd said Richmond are nowhere near a premiership. Their record said Richmond has 8 weeks to play their list. McBean should be given 4 weeks to show what he can deliver at AFL level; not just one week and dropped.
Most people that watch even just a few of our games can see our game plan is putrid. But Dimma is so stubborn he has refused to change much in the last 3 or 4 years.
The list is full of soft, slow, scared players that have either been drafted or traded for. So FJ can take his share of the blame for that but so can Dimma and the other list managers. But anyone that thinks DH doesn't get a very good say in who we trade for is delusional.
How can a player be on our list for 5 years and only have played 2 senior games. That would not happen at any other club. That's a long time to play 2's footy.
People talk about coaching and development as two different areas but don't they both come under coaching. Isn't it the coaching staffs job to develop players??
It all boils down to Dimma IMO not being a very good coach. Our players have gone backwards due to coaching, his development and his game plan.
It is still perplexing that the RFC gave him a 2 year extension with still a year to run on his current contract. If they simply had of waited until now they may have come up with a very different opinion on where our club is. All because we were too weak as a club to stand up to the media!
What is even more funny if what we are hearing is true is that the assistant coaches will probably be shown the door and the head coach will stay. That is too funny. Only at Richmond.
On another note they say the recruiting department could have "major changes" but what are they waiting for?? Don't waste another draft with the same team that has let us down for the last 6,7,8 years. Especially if we intend to make wholesale changes to our list. Move now!!
It the most important thing to do in the short term.
Anyway the next 8 weeks are very important and I hope that we are already invested in guys like Hurley. The only way out of this situation is if we throw money at some decent players and hope we draft well after trading our guys out. We need to finally grow some balls as a business and make decision for the now, that may not be too popular, and not try to think too far ahead.
I honestly believe if we can get Hurley (free in pick terms) a decent ruckman, a genuine mid (not really keen on Prestia) and say a Barlow from Freeo, and have a fit Yarran, McIntosh and maybe Lennon next year we can turn it around pretty quickly but DH would needs to change his style of coaching or get the arse. I'd definitely be more happy with the latter.
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Tl;dr
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We lost badly so we're news again.
* Hutchy reckons, given our tough draw in the last 5 rounds, Dimma is in trouble as far as keeping his job. He reckons 7 years is a long time for no finals wins and he would move Hardwick on.
* Caro said the review is still ongoing and the Club wants to pressure Dimma into making tough calls on assistants, fitness staff and recruiters. She believes the Club will give Dimma another year but agreed with Hutchy that he isn't safe.
Caro also said that Richmond hasn't had one good win all year.
* Lloyd said Richmond became a rabble towards the end of the game. He showed some examples of Hawthorn forwards marking long balls uncontested. Lloyd would keep Dimma on purely because we've invested so much time into him and Richmond has a history of sacking coaches. Caro chipped in and said that's no true, Matthew. Spud got 5 years, Wallace 5 years and 7 years for Dimma. The period of Richmond sacking coaches was back in the 80s and early 90s.
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FO Lloyd.
The issue with Lloyds last comment is that some at punt road actually believe it hence why he will be safe.
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
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:facepalm
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
After reading Leon Davies facebook pages (which he has now removed) makes me think that anyone who thinks he is the way forward is small minded too......
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FO Lloyd.
The issue with Lloyds last comment is that some at punt road actually believe it hence why he will be safe.
Lloyd should ponder this list: Knights, Hird, Thompson, Hird, Egan, Worsfold. This is the list of coaches that have coached that feral club he played for in the time that Hardwick has been Richmond coach....but Richmond sack coaches...idiot!
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
After reading Leon Davies facebook pages (which he has now removed) makes me think that anyone who thinks he is the way forward is small minded too......
He's not part of the challenge dude. Keep up.
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* Caro said the review is still ongoing and the Club wants to pressure Dimma into making tough calls on assistants, fitness staff and recruiters. She believes the Club will give Dimma another year but agreed with Hutchy that he isn't safer
Lol
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
After reading Leon Davies facebook pages (which he has now removed) makes me think that anyone who thinks he is the way forward is small minded too......
He's not part of the challenge dude. Keep up.
I seem to recall you supporting this dude. Is this not correct?
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
I wasn't sure if using 'isis' in his order post yesterday was the greatest move
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( you can ban me Wp but I'm not "mocking" anything, "at my peril" or otherwise
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
Dear god!
He's picked the current assistants who are rubbish, so they're letting him pick again??
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
No actually they are saying to him sack them or we (the board) will
He doesnt have as ,many options as everyone thinks
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We lost badly so we're news again.
* Hutchy reckons, given our tough draw in the last 5 rounds, Dimma is in trouble as far as keeping his job. He reckons 7 years is a long time for no finals wins and he would move Hardwick on.
* Caro said the review is still ongoing and the Club wants to pressure Dimma into making tough calls on assistants, fitness staff and recruiters. She believes the Club will give Dimma another year but agreed with Hutchy that he isn't safe.
Caro also said that Richmond hasn't had one good win all year.
* Lloyd said Richmond became a rabble towards the end of the game. He showed some examples of Hawthorn forwards marking long balls uncontested. Lloyd would keep Dimma on purely because we've invested so much time into him and Richmond has a history of sacking coaches. Caro chipped in and said that's no true, Matthew. Spud got 5 years, Wallace 5 years and 7 years for Dimma. The period of Richmond sacking coaches was back in the 80s and early 90s.
What type of organisation needs to make a "plan" to force the coach to make decisions by upping the pressure. LMAO.
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
After reading Leon Davies facebook pages (which he has now removed) makes me think that anyone who thinks he is the way forward is small minded too......
:bow
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We lost badly so we're news again.
* Hutchy reckons, given our tough draw in the last 5 rounds, Dimma is in trouble as far as keeping his job. He reckons 7 years is a long time for no finals wins and he would move Hardwick on.
* Caro said the review is still ongoing and the Club wants to pressure Dimma into making tough calls on assistants, fitness staff and recruiters. She believes the Club will give Dimma another year but agreed with Hutchy that he isn't safe.
Caro also said that Richmond hasn't had one good win all year.
* Lloyd said Richmond became a rabble towards the end of the game. He showed some examples of Hawthorn forwards marking long balls uncontested. Lloyd would keep Dimma on purely because we've invested so much time into him and Richmond has a history of sacking coaches. Caro chipped in and said that's no true, Matthew. Spud got 5 years, Wallace 5 years and 7 years for Dimma. The period of Richmond sacking coaches was back in the 80s and early 90s.
What type of organisation needs to make a "plan" to force the coach to make decisions by upping the pressure. LMAO.
I know - sounds like amateur hour. The footy director should be sacking them anyway
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maybe it is the football director who should be replaced, everyone likes blaming the bloke who negotiates the contracts, but there doesnt seem to be too much said about the bloke that resides at the top of the football dept?
...and the coach doesnt hire and fire recruiters, surely?
Caro is just queefing
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football director.. We dont have one? Dan richardson is as close as you can get.
Caro asked Gail last week on radio why we dont have one and he said we chose not to like other clubs have done so.
I do think half the problem is not entirely with dimwit, rather the people on top of him that allowed this football department to virtually go unchanged in 5 years.
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isn't that tony frees role?
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RFC commercial strategy. When in a hole, keep digging.
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Dan Richardson's official title is General Manager of Football
...for everyone apparently too lazy to perform the simple task of looking it up at the club website:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/staff-members
The Board:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/the-board
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So we're gonna let Hardwick do the sacking hey? What a pathetic small minded amateur club we are.
After reading Leon Davies facebook pages (which he has now removed) makes me think that anyone who thinks he is the way forward is small minded too......
What's this got to do with anything?
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isn't that tony frees role?
No
And I think it was asked by Caro or even on here why he isn't and the response was as I said
Club chose not to have a football director, much like a few other clubs
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Forgot to say Caro said we were a club who could afford to payout a coach with two years still left on his contract.
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We lost badly so we're news again.
* Hutchy reckons, given our tough draw in the last 5 rounds, Dimma is in trouble as far as keeping his job. He reckons 7 years is a long time for no finals wins and he would move Hardwick on.
* Caro said the review is still ongoing and the Club wants to pressure Dimma into making tough calls on assistants, fitness staff and recruiters. She believes the Club will give Dimma another year but agreed with Hutchy that he isn't safe.
Caro also said that Richmond hasn't had one good win all year.
* Lloyd said Richmond became a rabble towards the end of the game. He showed some examples of Hawthorn forwards marking long balls uncontested. Lloyd would keep Dimma on purely because we've invested so much time into him and Richmond has a history of sacking coaches. Caro chipped in and said that's no true, Matthew. Spud got 5 years, Wallace 5 years and 7 years for Dimma. The period of Richmond sacking coaches was back in the 80s and early 90s.
What type of organisation needs to make a "plan" to force the coach to make decisions by upping the pressure. LMAO.
Correct Ox. They really are struggling down there. They're handing over the axe to the guy who is mostly responsible for where we are at. So what happens when we bring in new assistants? Hardwick has to teach them the Richmond Way from scratch. Shuffling deck chairs. Anything to avoid making anyone accountable. RFC - stuck in a time warp.
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Forgot to say Caro said we were a club who could afford to payout a coach with two years still left on his contract.
Our hard earned membership dollars at work. Alot of people have to scrounge to rake up the cash.
But stuff putting this money into development and recruitment - its there to pay out blokes if wrong decisions are made.
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I consider paying out Halstep to be the best investment into development and recruitment we can make at this stage....
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Caro, Hutchy, Barrett & Lloyd just spoke about our loss on the weekend.
First was a graphic with our marks per quarter vs Geelong showing the drop off in the last quarter:
Q1 37
Q2 31
Q3 35
Q4 19
Caro says Dimma's praise of Dangerfield and Selwood in the post-match presser was a clear backhander to our leaders for going missing. Especially, Cotchin who went into his shell.
Barrett criticised Hardwick instead for not making any moves unlike Chris Scott switching Taylor and Henderson forward. He said it was "a terrible coaching performance". A team is coming back from 6 goals down at 3/4 time and you don't change anything to try and stop it. Barrett said Dimma has a history of losing games by being run over and now he's got losing the unloseable game to his name.
Lloyd blamed the players. You can't do much as coach when the opposition is dominating the clearances and the scoring shots are 15 to 1. Caro agreed saying you knew a couple minutes into the last quarter what was going to happen.
Lloyd in good call/bad call said Richmond and Cate Campbell have something in common - they both choked. Barrett replied good call.
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Barrett :clapping
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Caro, Hutchy, Barrett & Lloyd just spoke about our loss on the weekend.
Lloyd blamed the players.
Three journos and one former play and only one blames the players. Shows some of these journos are clueless
Disclaimer: yes Dimma was also woeful
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Its the game plan. Our game plan only marginally works if the opposition team allow a loose player in defense.
As soon as they go man on man, we are stuffed. Without a free player, there is no overlap and no easy chip chip passes to grind the ball forward. We were forced to go long the last quarter.
If we had the best list in the AFL, we would struggle with this game plan. What amazes me is Geelong allowed us so much freedom in the first three quarters. They had too many dud talls. It was Richmond like.
As soon as the opposition tighten up, its game over. As many people have said on here, there is no Plan B.
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Its the game plan. Our game plan only marginally works if the opposition team allow a loose player in defense.
As soon as they go man on man, we are stuffed. Without a free player, there is no overlap and no easy chip chip passes to grind the ball forward. We were forced to go long the last quarter.
If we had the best list in the AFL, we would struggle with this game plan. What amazes me is Geelong allowed us so much freedom in the first three quarters. They had too many dud talls. It was Richmond like.
As soon as the opposition tighten up, its game over. As many people have said on here, there is no Plan B.
Quality posting.
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Will the Tigers play finals in 2017 like Damien Hardwick suggests?
#9FootyClassified, TONIGHT 8.40pm on @9Go!
https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/767551254796972032
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Plan B = Plan L
L=Lose
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Will the Tigers play finals in 2017 like Damien Hardwick suggests?
#9FootyClassified, TONIGHT 8.40pm on @9Go!
https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/767551254796972032
So much better on an earlier time slot. I normally fall asleep on the couch only to find the show finished and me having a sore neck :lol
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I just hate 10.30 time slots these days. I'm too old.
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If anything is coming out of footy classified and Caro's comments is they know the truth but won't out it out there publicly because it harms the players and that's only smart. As much as we whinge and moan you have to be blind Freddy not to read between the lines in what Hardwick says.
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Lloyd got stuck into Dusty and Dimma tonight.
On Dusty, he was needlessly playing on blindly too much on the weekend and continually turned the ball over.
Then on the team as a whole, Lloyd said while some errors on the weekend were a result of the players, many of errors and turnovers were a direct result of the gamestyle Richmond is playing - overpossessing the ball. Lloyd showed vision of a number of examples he blamed on the gamestyle and hence Hardwick. Lloyd wants to see Dimma change and be a coach that was more like the player he played alongside who was ruthless and relentless.
They also spoke about us needing to rebuild our list and start again, but us going after Prestia was at odds to this and was more in line with backing Hardwick and his comments about us rebounding quickly and making finals next year.
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Dirty and average
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Lloyd got stuck into Dusty and Dimma tonight.
On Dusty, he was needlessly playing on blindly too much on the weekend and continually turned the ball over.
Then on the team as a whole, Lloyd said while some errors on the weekend were a result of the players, many of errors and turnovers were a direct result of the gamestyle Richmond is playing - overpossessing the ball. Lloyd showed vision of a number of examples he blamed on the gamestyle and hence Hardwick. Lloyd wants to see Dimma change and be a coach that was more like the player he played alongside who was ruthless and relentless.
They also spoke about us needing to rebuild our list and start again, but us going after Prestia was at odds to this and was more in line with backing Hardwick and his comments about us rebounding quickly and making finals next year.
The plan is to top up the playing list. :lol
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Caro said Club review mainly over concerns over 4 issues:
* Development.
* Recruiting.
* Coaching decisions.
* Overall Footy dept. decisions.
Lloyd said Hardwick is delusional if he believes that list can make finals in 2017.
They replayed all the mixed messages coming out of the Club over the season.
Caro said Hardwick is only still there because he's contracted for two more years. It was the wrong decision to extend his contract by two years as he won't be there in 12 months time anyway if Richmond has another poor year. If he had only one year left it would be more economical to sack him now given the loss of members and supporters to games. Hutchy said that's not out of the question yet. However, Caro believes since Peggy O'Neal was so emphatic Dimma would coach in 2017 that he won't be sacked.
Barrett still pushing the Jack could leave Richmond barrow tonight. When they replayed Jack's comments bagging Barrett as dishonest journalism and an example
of modern media no longer reporting news but lighting the fire and hoping to see what smoke appaears, Barrett exclaimed "It's only opinion, Jack!" :rolleyes
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Caro said Club review mainly over concerns over 4 issues:
* Development.
* Recruiting.
* Coaching decisions.
* Overall Footy dept. decisions.
So basically on field we are stuffed? Geez I think even the beeper in here could have come to that conclusion
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Dirty and average
LOL
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Bucks delivered a well deserved backhander to blobbo.
Blobbo calledFasolo up to aopologise and ask him for an intrview at the same time.
What a guy!!
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Bucks delivered a well deserved backhander to blobbo.
Blobbo calledFasolo up to aopologise and ask him for an intrview at the same time.
What a guy!!
On Ch7's Talking Footy, they said it was a letter, he wrote a letter and asked for an interview
That's gutter journalism at its absolute best
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yeah sorry thats what it was.
At least bucks is not affraid to call him what he is.
I cant listen to him rubbish anymore.
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The discussion about Richmond on Footy Classified on Monday night:
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/881849336870469632
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Could the AFL's best defence lead the Tigers to a flag?
Mick Stirling
sportingnews.com.au
4 July 2017
Could Richmond actually win the premiership this year?
The Tigers are always going to get a bit of attention when they’re up and about, but no-one ever seriously thinks they can challenge for the flag, yet the numbers are suggesting otherwise.
While there’s a couple of superstars in the midfield and a forward line that puts on enough pressure to turn coal into diamonds, the key to Richmond’s September chances is in the back half.
The Tigers’ defence is statistically the best in the AFL at the moment and similar to some other dominant teams of recent times.
“Teams that win premierships have got great defences,” Garry Lyon pointed out on Footy Classified on Monday night.
“‘Points against’ they sit third, ‘opposition goals per inside 50’ they’re number one, ‘points conceded from turnovers’ they’re number one and ‘points conceded from stoppages’ they’re number one.
“Look at the Hawthorn of 2015 – they’re scarily similar.
“This is a magnificent building block when you look at those numbers.
As good as those numbers are, come finals time and a whole new pressure builds on Richmond who haven’t won in the first week of September since 1982.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/could-the-afls-best-defence-lead-the-tigers-to-a-flag-richmond-garry-lyonfooty-classified/10ez1vbos4n2m1ngf4975agmdj
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Journo forgot about '95 and '01 but hey - who gives a stuff?
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We lost the first final in September back in 95 ( to North )
and to Essendon in 2001
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Points against third ????
Second and only by bees diaphragm from being number 1.
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Nothing really to do with Richmond but Judd will replace Garry Lyon on Footy Classified next year.
Kane "Richmond are Port's great rival" Cornes will be back-up.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-18/musical-chairs-on-football-television-continues
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Hutchy saying in the promo that they're going to discuss tonight (starts 10pm) the Tiger players who could be under the pump due to Lynch.
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Things heating up atm :shh
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Which Tigers will be out for Tom Lynch? #9FootyClassified
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/1018840934702710784
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Not sure if there will be anything about the Tigers but the show restarts now 10pm.
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Caro just said as they sit there tonight Lynch will play.
There's still a session to get through tomorrow and if the Club goes conservative then Balta will play instead.
Either way there will be two Tiger debutants and she expects Weller to play.
Lloyd said resolving our 2nd tall forward/ruck is what stands between Richmond and another flag.
He hopes Balta plays in round 1 to see what he can do in the real stuff (after his 3rd qtr vs Melb in the JLT) as if Lynch, Riewoldt & Nankervis play then there's no room in the side for him. Caro says it's a win-win situation.
Lloyd expects Carlton to give it there best shot but we'll be too strong in the end for them.
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Balts should play regardless. It's not as if he's some lumbering spud who would only ever play ones due to his height
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Don't really get the Weller love.
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He's the new Adam Thomson/Matt Thomas/Ricky Peetard
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Albesit slightly more talented, but still. Looks a coaches fav who will play in place of more talented youngsters
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Albesit slightly more talented, but still. Looks a coaches fav who will play in place of more talented youngsters
That is what I think and I just don't get it.
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I don't get this "cant play Jack, Tom and Balta in the same forward line" discussion
Sure if you had three big slow guys like say Hampson, Soldo and Nankervis it wont work.
But Jack has shown he is one of the smartest footballer around and although not fast he has the ability to be part of a forward press. Already proven. Lynch is very mobile for a big guy and Balta has the speed and also the ground game of a smaller guy. We would not lose anything by having Balta in place of a smaller guy - provided Balta has learnt the game plan completely.
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I agree with that. Jack at CHF. Tom at FF. Balta roaming 3rd tall. Would be a handful.
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Gracie definitely agree. We've seen jack run up the wing and also be an extra tall down back. Jack is an absolute jet and will be able to use his knack Taking a contested mark all over the ground.
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Thought Hardwick was big on versatilty thse days and Balta can pretty much be played anywhere the match situstion dictates......back, forward guts, wing, ruck....:shh
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Tend to agree with you guys we can play them all.Balta can play any position to if things not working out.Eagles do it playing one genuine ruck one second ruck forward and two monster forwards.This quote "Lloyd said resolving our 2nd tall forward/ruck is what stands between Richmond and another flag" spot on for me.
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He’s been training to be a back up ruck, I suppose their view is that we need 1 full time ruck and 1 part time ruck.
I have no idea how this will play out on Thursday nite as I’d imagine if Lynch does play there is no way they will risk him at centre bounces.
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They talked about Dusty on last night's show. Lloyd said Dusty should spend 50% of the time up forward and hopefully playing closer to goal stimulates him.
Then they got onto the team overall and what were our deficiencies. Judd said our contested numbers and tackling are down. Caro added that our drop off began in the last 6 weeks of last season so it's not something new. Richmond were the best team in the comp. for 12 months and fortunately that reign occurred across September 2017. Collingwood and the Eagles are the premiership favourites now.
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Caro is spot on our decline started the last 6 weeks of the season in 2018, but the thing is watching our games none of those problems have been rectified clearances, first hand on the footy, our pressure and tackling.Teams were clearly working us out yet we look like stuck on our 2017 game plan we don't counter it.This with another key forward coming into the club who we thought would give us another dimension and new rules.
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It's game 3 only.......
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Caro is spot on our decline started the last 6 weeks of the season in 2018, but the thing is watching our games none of those problems have been rectified clearances, first hand on the footy, our pressure and tackling.Teams were clearly working us out yet we look like stuck on our 2017 game plan we don't counter it.This with another key forward coming into the club who we thought would give us another dimension and new rules.
Getting first hand on the ball is not so much of a tactic but skill or personel.
If Nanks struggles against a ruckman we don't get first hand on the ball.
Soldo may address this issue as he is able to get his hand on the ball or at least stop their ruckman from spoon feeding their midfielders.
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Who noticed Hardwick on the bench last week barking orders and really working with the players as they came off the ground.
We are definitely working on something different and it didn't work last week, but that doesn't mean it wont click over the next few months.
Maybe it was a plan against Collingwood, in the first half we spent most of it trying to play a Pagans paddock style and get the "chaos" ball over the top
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Caro is spot on our decline started the last 6 weeks of the season in 2018, but the thing is watching our games none of those problems have been rectified clearances, first hand on the footy, our pressure and tackling.Teams were clearly working us out yet we look like stuck on our 2017 game plan we don't counter it.This with another key forward coming into the club who we thought would give us another dimension and new rules.
Getting first hand on the ball is not so much of a tactic but skill or personel.
If Nanks struggles against a ruckman we don't get first hand on the ball.
Soldo may address this issue as he is able to get his hand on the ball or at least stop their ruckman from spoon feeding their midfielders.
K.O. Slomo won't address any issue unless the "issues" are being too fast and taking too many contested marks... :shh
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Caro is spot on our decline started the last 6 weeks of the season in 2018, but the thing is watching our games none of those problems have been rectified clearances, first hand on the footy, our pressure and tackling.Teams were clearly working us out yet we look like stuck on our 2017 game plan we don't counter it.This with another key forward coming into the club who we thought would give us another dimension and new rules.
Getting first hand on the ball is not so much of a tactic but skill or personel.
If Nanks struggles against a ruckman we don't get first hand on the ball.
Soldo may address this issue as he is able to get his hand on the ball or at least stop their ruckman from spoon feeding their midfielders.
K.O. Slomo won't address any issue unless the "issues" are being too fast and taking too many contested marks... :shh
Diode I know that you hate Soldo with a passion so any of your assessments of him are extremely negative.
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Caro is spot on our decline started the last 6 weeks of the season in 2018, but the thing is watching our games none of those problems have been rectified clearances, first hand on the footy, our pressure and tackling.Teams were clearly working us out yet we look like stuck on our 2017 game plan we don't counter it.This with another key forward coming into the club who we thought would give us another dimension and new rules.
Getting first hand on the ball is not so much of a tactic but skill or personel.
If Nanks struggles against a ruckman we don't get first hand on the ball.
Soldo may address this issue as he is able to get his hand on the ball or at least stop their ruckman from spoon feeding their midfielders.
Agree to a point,but some of our midfielders being lazy also tackling and pressure and gut running are basics not negotiable if were sticking to our game plan Nank is the least of our problems.
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Spot on and the 6/6/6 has exposed our lack of clearance type players big time
2 from 2 games we have been slaughtered
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Spot on and the 6/6/6 has exposed our lack of clearance type players big time
2 from 2 games we have been slaughtered
No, we haven’t.
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I’m not a fan of Soldo either, in fact I think I said he was the worst player I had seen in a Tigers jumper ever, but I do think he has improved a lot since then.
We are getting killed at clearances and I don’t think it’s just about Nank getting beaten in the ruck, our midfielders need to work harder too but I wouldn’t mind if Soldo came in to help out.
Nank has proven he can kick goals when he rests forward as he is a hard match up for opposition.
I did see Soldo take a few marks around the ground in the twos the last couple of weeks so he can get involved a bit more now than before.
We cannot afford to give opposition sides a free hit at stoppages anymore.
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I'd play Chol, CCJ & even Moore in the ruck before Slomo,,,,,we just lose too much around the ground with him in the side.... :shh
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We lost the clearances 28-31 against Collingwood. And 41-37 against Carlton. That's hardly getting "smashed"
I think the issue is more so when we don't have the ball we don't put enough pressure on the ball carrier and allowing opposition to link up uncontested possessions is what cuts us up the most.
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Giving sides way too much space and too many easy marks down the line...also not putting enough pressure on the receivers and outside runners....to many blokes following the ball and swarming the ball carrier but still not stopping the handball getting out to free players... :shh
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Are Richmond beginning to hit form at the right time of the season?
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/1153290059526877184
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Caro just said Tom Lynch will be on Footy Classified coming up now.
Edit: Scratch that. She just said it will be the Crows' Tom Lynch :booboo.
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Matty Lloyd did his "Richmond lockdown list":
1. Need to stay hungry. There's a reason we don't have many back-to-back premiers.
2. Selection tension vital - Ross, Balta, Stack, Higgo, RCD, Chol need to put pressure on the 22.
3. Need role players to be nothing more, nothing less. Broad, Castagna, Baker don't now try to be more than you are and think you are Rolls Royces. Stick to being the role players you are.
4. Doesn't think plying Soldo & Nank as both lumbering bang-crash ruckmen in the same team will work going forward. Need to get games into Balta or Chol as the second ruck pairing with only one of the other two.
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Matty Lloyd did his "Richmond lockdown list":
1. Need to stay hungry. There's a reason we don't have many back-to-back premiers.
2. Selection tension vital - Ross, Balta, Stack, Higgo, RCD, Chol need to put pressure on the 22.
3. Need role players to be nothing more, nothing less. Broad, Castagna, Baker don't now try to be more than you are and think you are Rolls Royces. Stick to being the role players you are.
4. Doesn't think plying Soldo & Nank as both lumbering bang-crash ruckmen in the same team will work going forward. Need to get games into Balta or Chol as the second ruck pairing with only one of the other two.
Earth shattering information there. I like Matthew but why are these shows still on (especially 2 of them a week).
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Matty Lloyd did his "Richmond lockdown list":
1. Need to stay hungry. There's a reason we don't have many back-to-back premiers.
2. Selection tension vital - Ross, Balta, Stack, Higgo, RCD, Chol need to put pressure on the 22.
3. Need role players to be nothing more, nothing less. Broad, Castagna, Baker don't now try to be more than you are and think you are Rolls Royces. Stick to being the role players you are.
4. Doesn't think plying Soldo & Nank as both lumbering bang-crash ruckmen in the same team will work going forward. Need to get games into Balta or Chol as the second ruck pairing with only one of the other two.
Baker will be a star Lloydy :shh
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Matty Lloyd did his "Richmond lockdown list":
1. Need to stay hungry. There's a reason we don't have many back-to-back premiers.
2. Selection tension vital - Ross, Balta, Stack, Higgo, RCD, Chol need to put pressure on the 22.
3. Need role players to be nothing more, nothing less. Broad, Castagna, Baker don't now try to be more than you are and think you are Rolls Royces. Stick to being the role players you are.
4. Doesn't think plying Soldo & Nank as both lumbering bang-crash ruckmen in the same team will work going forward. Need to get games into Balta or Chol as the second ruck pairing with only one of the other two.
The members of the Collingwood cheer squad have better insights into what we need that Lloyd. He, Tony Shaw and Cornehole are so dumb they have to remind themselves what the AFL stands for each day
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A fair question after 2017 but why question if we're still hungry now after 2 flags and a PF finish in the past 3 years? :huh3.
If George could kick straight he'd be the best and most deadly small forward in the league.
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But he doesnt kick straight. He cant kick.
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I thought he did pretty well in 2019 and showed a fair bit of improvement in that area ................... until the GF
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And he has a 3.0 goal average this year.
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Why I'm watching I don't know but the producers of this show need to get either Ed or Caro off it. The amount of time they cut each other off mid sentence is crazy.
You can feel the hatred almost. I suppose that's why they do it.
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Haven't watched in in ages. Not a huge fan of Caro but the way the blokes treat her is ugly to watch as well.
Hosts clearly don't like or respect one another = terrible TV chemistry.
Don't watch AFL360 anymore (kids, life is busy) but I always enjoyed that show. Even though both Whately and Robbo annoy me from time to time the work well together which is good to watch and the focus a lot on football.
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I can’t take the microsecond by microsecond hyper analysis on fox and footy classified.
I much rather the dyl and friends podcast or front bar as they showcase the humanistic side of football which I enjoy
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Haven't watched in in ages. Not a huge fan of Caro but the way the blokes treat her is ugly to watch as well.
Hosts clearly don't like or respect one another = terrible TV chemistry.
Don't watch AFL360 anymore (kids, life is busy) but I always enjoyed that show. Even though both Whately and Robbo annoy me from time to time the work well together which is good to watch and the focus a lot on football.
AFL 360 is past is use by date, time for fresh faces.
I stopped watching last year, Floggo is getting so superior and self righteous.
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Haven't watched in in ages. Not a huge fan of Caro but the way the blokes treat her is ugly to watch as well.
Hosts clearly don't like or respect one another = terrible TV chemistry.
Don't watch AFL360 anymore (kids, life is busy) but I always enjoyed that show. Even though both Whately and Robbo annoy me from time to time the work well together which is good to watch and the focus a lot on football.
AFL 360 is past is use by date, time for fresh faces.
I stopped watching last year, Floggo is getting so superior and self righteous.
Stopped in 2017 when kids happened.
Then I got Kayo last year and cut Foxtel.
Could never be bothered again.
Was the single life...
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Don’t watch any of the shows unless we win the flag.
Then I watch ‘em all
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5 minutes in and Caro has David Teague sacked at Blues replaced by Clarkson. Also, Tigers and in particular Dimma leadership tarnished.
Now I remember why I don't watch this dribble.
Headline chasing hacks
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Does the Damien Hardwick scandal this off-season threaten to tarnish the three-time premiership coach's legacy?
The Footy Classified panel is split.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1371420913636413441
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Caro makes up half her stories deadset.
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Is Hardwick the only premiership winning coach to go through a divorce???
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Caro like other journos is speculating on what she believes happened or even perhaps what she hopes happened
All the while not caring who she hurts in her attempts to bring people down in the process
None of us know what truly happened and TBH none of us need to know, it is none of our business...
:banghead
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I no longer watch these shows and am personally amazed that they exist
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Caro makes up half her stories deadset.
You're too kind, it's a lot more than half. Presents opinion as facts all the time. Can't stand her, just say this is what YOU think, rather than the RFC is angry or people are telling me etc. Should be called out more often, pathetic excuse for a journalist.
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Sorry WP
The “it’s none of our business” card is rubbish
He’s earning a small fortune to perform a role which involves being in the public eye .. this is known for every coach when they take the role
Secondly , he played the Mrs Hardwick card more than any other coach has ever played the Mrs ..... card
So he deserves the scrutiny
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Lots of people earn a lot more than Dimma, do a lot worse things and never have to read about it. It’s no ones business but his and his families
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Some need to step out of pure world view or perhaps remove their purity ring.
Divorces happen all the time.
How does it effect your life unless you have an unfulfilled life and live vicariously through other people and their issues.
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Sorry WP
The “it’s none of our business” card is rubbish
He’s earning a small fortune to perform a role which involves being in the public eye .. this is known for every coach when they take the role
Secondly , he played the Mrs Hardwick card more than any other coach has ever played the Mrs ..... card
So he deserves the scrutiny
I get your point Damo
But he gets paid to coach the football ckub, our club. That is his role, that is what he should be scrutinised for.
If it impacts on his ability to do his job then I'd expect the questions to be asked
But he isn't the first coach to go through a marriage breakdown. He won't be the last
Just this pre-seaon there were 2 others and neither of them has had the media obsess like they have with Dimma.
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The footy media should talk footy, this personal stuff is rubbish. Gutter journalism which can be saved for the daily mail.
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Sorry WP
The “it’s none of our business” card is rubbish
He’s earning a small fortune to perform a role which involves being in the public eye .. this is known for every coach when they take the role
Secondly , he played the Mrs Hardwick card more than any other coach has ever played the Mrs ..... card
So he deserves the scrutiny
I get your point Damo
But he gets paid to coach the football ckub, our club. That is his role, that is what he should be scrutinised for.
If it impacts on his ability to do his job then I'd expect the questions to be asked
But he isn't the first coach to go through a marriage breakdown. He won't be the last
Just this pre-seaon there were 2 others and neither of them has had the media obsess like they have with Dimma.
WP
There are differences .. the other two coaches didn’t play the “Mrs Buckley” and “Mrs Goodwin” card at every opportunity. They also weren’t involved with a club staffer whilst married.
I would think of the three coaches, one stands out to cop the most scrutiny.
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I agree with Damo but it has reached a point where everyone needs to now move on an focus on the footy.
It’s not Hollywood
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Sorry WP
The “it’s none of our business” card is rubbish
He’s earning a small fortune to perform a role which involves being in the public eye .. this is known for every coach when they take the role
Secondly , he played the Mrs Hardwick card more than any other coach has ever played the Mrs ..... card
So he deserves the scrutiny
I get your point Damo
But he gets paid to coach the football ckub, our club. That is his role, that is what he should be scrutinised for.
If it impacts on his ability to do his job then I'd expect the questions to be asked
But he isn't the first coach to go through a marriage breakdown. He won't be the last
Just this pre-seaon there were 2 others and neither of them has had the media obsess like they have with Dimma.
WP
There are differences .. the other two coaches didn’t play the “Mrs Buckley” and “Mrs Goodwin” card at every opportunity. They also weren’t involved with a club staffer whilst married.
I would think of the three coaches, one stands out to cop the most scrutiny.
..or maybe he was actually still in love with his wife when he was namedropping her in press conferences and what not but now he isn't...it happens...big stuffing deal...... :shh
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Hutchy said he doubts we can make top 4 as we only played 7 new/different players on the weekend compared to the 2017 GF side - Aarts, Baker, Balta, Bolton, Eggy, Lynch & Pickett. Our success has prevented the next generation coming through.
Compared us to the Swans & Dogs who have 16 new/different players in their current 22 since the 2016 GF.
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Well you see hutchy when your team is winning flags you have more continuity in your 22 as opposed to when your team is down the bottom of the ladder or missing finals and you’re experimenting more or blooding youth.....
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Hutchy knows banana about football.
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I couldn’t tell if it was Hutchy or Fat Bastard from Austin Powers hosting last night
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"Richmond are going to have to tweak a little bit."
Ross Lyon identifies some of Richmond's worrying trends through the first three weeks.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1379773903149621249
2020 2021
Mark play-on % against #11 #15
Uncont. poss. against #8 #17
Short kicks against #8 #18
Scores per In50 against #6 #14
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I couldn’t tell if it was Hutchy or Fat Bastard from Austin Powers hosting last night
Or Jabba the Hutch
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"Richmond are going to have to tweak a little bit."
Ross Lyon identifies some of Richmond's worrying trends through the first three weeks.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1379773903149621249
2020 2021
Mark play-on % against #11 #15
Uncont. poss. against #8 #17
Short kicks against #8 #18
Scores per In50 against #6 #14
The zone is dead......long live the zone. sHocking has killed it. The AFL anti Richmond attitude strikes again.
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Antediluvian Football League... :shh
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How do we get rid of Hocking, worst thing to happen in the AFL along with Mcgoo
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"They squeezed the life out of St Kilda on the weekend."
Matthew Lloyd highlights why Richmond is showing all the signs of winning a fourth premiership in five years.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1384125069186588675
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"I'm more excited about Saturday night, Richmond v Melbourne."
Matthew Lloyd believes that for the first time ever, the traditional Anzac Day clash is the undercard for the Anzac Eve match.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1384130356681461768
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Hutchy said he doubts we can make top 4 as we only played 7 new/different players on the weekend compared to the 2017 GF side - Aarts, Baker, Balta, Bolton, Eggy, Lynch & Pickett. Our success has prevented the next generation coming through.
Compared us to the Swans & Dogs who have 16 new/different players in their current 22 since the 2016 GF.
In many ways I agree with this statement
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Hutchy said he doubts we can make top 4 as we only played 7 new/different players on the weekend compared to the 2017 GF side - Aarts, Baker, Balta, Bolton, Eggy, Lynch & Pickett. Our success has prevented the next generation coming through.
Compared us to the Swans & Dogs who have 16 new/different players in their current 22 since the 2016 GF.
In many ways I agree with this statement
Is it 16 different players for Swans/Bulldogs in total? If so that is only one more for each of them than us in one extra year
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Have they won any grand finals since? Nope.
Richmond has won 2 more since 2017.
Maybe our list was just younger and better to begin with.
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"The numbers are almost identical."
Ross Lyon and Matthew Lloyd take a look at the battle between master and apprentice, Dustin Martin and Christian Petracca.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1384843949257465856
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"No team runs harder off half-back."
Ross Lyon on how Richmond's ball movement off half-back hurts opposition teams.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1384844825560764417
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Add Matthew Lloyd to the list of those worried about us. He said we need another injection of youth like last year when we through Bolton into the middle and Balta in defence. Doesn't know if that's Ross or RCD but it's harder to stay on top in that 4th/5th year and we're a fair way behind the top 3 sides (Dogs, Dees & Port).
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Add Matthew Lloyd to the list of those worried about us. He said we need another injection of youth like last year when we through Bolton into the middle and Balta in defence. Doesn't know if that's Ross or RCD but it's harder to stay on top in that 4th/5th year and we're a fair way behind the top 3 sides (Dogs, Dees & Port).
Matthew Lloyd highlights why Richmond is showing all the signs of winning a fourth premiership in five years
And this is what he said only the previous week.
This is why these ex footballers as commentators aren't worth a pinch of poo.
Effing useless.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2TEJGsVUAEa6fp?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1397465276594081795
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Good- AFL are making poor decisions at the moment. I think cuts in their department are having an impact sadly.
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"Richmond at war with AFL" screw them.
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Caro:
"There is no doubt that there is a war going on behind closed doors behind Richmond and the AFL."
There's spite on both sides.
No surprise if the AFL is true to form and gives Richmond 1-2 home games at Marvel next year.
She was critical of the Club for its hubris after 3 flags in 4 years.
Eddie said he knows what it's like when you're the biggest club in town. There's a feeling the AFL wants franchises so the independent clubs know they have to fight to remain independent. That's why it sounds like they are the ones whinging. The MCG deal with its tenant clubs is now highly lucrative so in a time when clubs are short of cash it's important. The independent clubs are going to be worst off (i.e. due to the AFL tax).
Watch the full segment here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1397524823304249347
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AFL, Richmond reportedly at ‘war’ over Marvel Stadium complaints, Shai Bolton fine
David Zita from Fox Sports
Foxsports
May 27th, 2021
Veteran AFL journalist Caroline Wilson believes there is a “war” going on between Richmond and the league, suggesting star Shai Bolton’s recent $20,000 fine could’ve been influenced by the dispute.
Bolton was slapped with the fine by the league for his involvement in a nightclub brawl with teammate Daniel Rioli, despite the Tigers initially declaring there was no case to answer for either player.
That, coupled with contentious comments from coach Damien Hardwick and club CEO Brendon Gale about not wanting to play a home game at Marvel Stadium, has led to a souring relationship between the reigning premiers and league headquarters.
“There is no doubt there is a war going on behind closed doors between Richmond and the AFL. Damien Hardwick front man, but he’s not the only man,” she told Channel Nine’s Footy Classified.
“I have no doubt that if the AFL is true to form, Richmond will not get one, but probably two games at Marvel Stadium next year.
“That was ridiculous what Damien Hardwick said (about Marvel Stadium), particularly after a big win. There’s a bit of hubris there from the coach.”
Bolton’s fine was “far too much” according to AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson, who questioned the severity of the sanction given the lack of detail around the altercation that led to him suffering a broken wrist.
Wilson said the heftiness of Bolton’s fine was likely to have been influenced by the deteriorating relationship between both parties.
“The AFL was saying that Richmond had nothing to answer for, that was the feeling coming from both Richmond and the AFL,” she said.
“Then suddenly, Bolton is fined $20,000 out of nowhere ... that is a massive fine and there is something that has gone on.
“Is there anger at what Damien Hardwick said? Certainly Gillon McLachlan was angry. I absolutely think there is spite there on both sides.”
Regarding the Tigers’ complaints about playing home games away from the MCG, former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire backed his side’s rivals, claiming the bigger clubs needed to stand up against the league or risk being trampled on.
“I’ve been in this situation when you’re the big club in town - the new deal at the MCG for the home clubs that get big crowds in is far more lucrative, so it’s not just a whinge there. It’s a significant amount of money when money is tight,” he said.
“What ends up happening is there’s so many clubs on the drip now from the AFL who don’t fight anything that it ends up being the same clubs that seem to be whingeing because they’re fighting the fight because they’ve got to make their own money.
“You know the big clubs are about to get less money coming their way again - There is a feel that the AFL is trying to turn everybody into a franchise and the independent clubs have got to fight.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2021-richmond-complaints-richmond-vs-afl-shai-bolton-fine-marvel-stadium-comments-damien-hardwick-gillon-mclachlan-caroline-wilson/news-story/7e21f85ca73eee7ce9e90722f938d48e
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This was Footy Classified tonight :stupid.
"There is a discussion that needs to be had with Jack."
@kanecornes believes Richmond must consider moving Jack Riewoldt on to allow them to keep young players such as Callum Coleman-Jones.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1399343541646680067
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Chris Scott? Alastair Clarkson? Damien Hardwick? Ross Lyon?
There are a number of big names being linked to the senior coaching role at Collingwood if Nathan Buckley isn't coach next season.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1399339542914768906
So apparently the Pies think they can get Dimma and we should dump Jack now :stupid :rollin.
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Channel 9 needs to move Karen Cornes on so they can get someone in that’s not a stupid campaigner
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Richmond urged to consider Jack Riewoldt trade after Callum Coleman-Jones' breakout game
By Chris De Silva
Nine WWOS
June 1, 2021
Port Adelaide great Kane Cornes says Richmond should consider moving on Jack Riewoldt in order to free up playing time for Callum Coleman-Jones.
Coleman-Jones starred in his long-awaited return to Richmond's side in Round 11, kicking four goals up forward as he partnered Riewoldt in Tom Lynch's absence.
However, Cornes suggested that Lynch's return could see the 21-year-old slip back out of Richmond's first-choice team and could potentially cause him to look elsewhere for a steady opportunity, given he is currently out of contract.
Cornes compared Richmond's predicament to that of Hawthorn back in 2016, when it traded veteran duo Jordan Lewis and Sam Mitchell, and urged the Tigers to consider doing the same with Riewoldt.
"It's a good position to be in, but I think they've got a big decision to make," Cornes told Nine's Footy Classified.
"He's out of contract and once Tom Lynch comes back, if he goes back and plays reserves, then he'll go for more opportunity.
"Jack Riewoldt is out of contract and I just wonder whether there is a discussion that needs to be had with Jack. Is there an opportunity to be really mature about this?
"I am (suggesting Richmond trades Riewoldt) similar to how Hawthorn did with Lewis, Hodge and Mitchell and it worked well for the players who left.
"If you're Callum Coleman-Jones, are you happy to sit? You know you're good enough, you kicked four on the back of hardly any preparation.
"I think it's a conversation worth having. He's 33, Jack Riewoldt, are they going to win another premiership? Probably not. Has he got two or three years left in him? Absolutely."
Riewoldt has been in fine form to start 2021, and is likely to kick the highest number of goals he's kicked since the 2018 season, having already booted 30 majors in 11 games.
Essendon great Matthew Lloyd suggested that one of Richmond's other players, potentially big man Toby Nankervis, would eventually make way for Coleman-Jones.
"(The solution is) playing the boy at someone else's expense," he said.
"You love having champions stay and remain at that football club. Nankervis isn't getting any younger so I think he plays ruck-forward in the next couple of years."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/kane-cornes-urges-richmond-to-conisder-jack-riewoldt-trade-callum-coleman-jones/e22cf2a2-ec9e-479f-a9fe-dccccf832eae
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Caro has become a bit of a man hater the way she talked about Shai Bolton issue last night. She was also talking about Nathan Buckley also last night and the board and you could tell she was just giving her opinion but when pressed tried to pass it off as factual. Makes my blood boil.
In regards to Kane Cornes well he is just a flog who is looking for click bait which he has achieved.
Matthew Lloyd is the only panelist with any credibility in my opinion. Sometimes he just looks at Caro and you know he's thinking what is she on about.
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Used to watch it all the time but this year I switched it on for the first time yesterday only to see Caro banging on about how had the 'boys club' is in the AFL without providing any factual evidence.
Is coming across as if she is the all knowing expert on all things AFL.
Methinks the Reporter is drinking her own bathwater.
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“CRAZY STUFF”: DWAYNE RUSSELL RUBBISHES RIEWOLDT TRADE SUGGESTION
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
1 June 2021
Dwayne Russell believes it is “crazy talk” to be even be thinking about moving Jack Riewoldt on from Richmond.
On Footy Classified on Monday night, Kane Cornes suggested that the Tigers should consider moving the veteran forward on to make room for development.
Cornes said: “He's 33, Jack Riewoldt, are they going to win another premiership? Probably not. Has he got two or three years left in him? Absolutely."
Specifically, Cornes indicated that it was time a conversation was had for Riewoldt to make way for Callum Coleman-Jones who kicked four goals in his second AFL game last weekend.
Russell has leapt to the defence of three-time premiership star Riewoldt who continues to play quality football for the Tigers.
“Kane said a couple of things last night that I thought were a bit of a stretch,” Russell said on SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“He said last night that Richmond should trade Jack Riewoldt, or force him to leave at the end of the season to secure Callum Coleman-Jones long-term to play in Jack Riewoldt’s spot.
“To me, I think that’s crazy stuff. It’s the last thing I’d do.
“He’s been the heart and soul of Richmond for so long. He’s still playing some really, really good footy. He’s a fantastic leader, he’s the kind of guy that makes Richmond what it is.
“I wouldn’t be doing that.
“Callum Coleman-Jones has played two games. Yeah he played really well on the weekend, but I do believe that they (Riewoldt, Coleman-Jones and Tom Lynch) all can work together.
“I wouldn’t be trading Jack on the back of that.”
Riewoldt kicked five goals in Sunday’s win over Adelaide, taking his season tally to 30 goals which has him placed fifth in the Coleman Medal race.
The 32-year-old also sits fourth in the competition for marks inside 50, which doubled with his history displays to Russell that the Tigers wouldn’t think twice about moving him on.
“Crazy talk. I wouldn’t be trading Jack at all,” Russell added.
“I’d be letting Jack play out his days at Richmond. He’s become a Richmond icon.
“I just love the way he goes about it these days, not only as a player who is still in full flight right now, but also as a leader.”
Russell concluded: “When this era is said and done, Dustin Martin will get a statue.
“But I think Jack Riewoldt gets into the AFL Hall of Fame first year of eligibility.
“He’s been iconic for this era, he’s got a great resume now. As a leader of the football club, as a player that stands up when the heat’s on.
“He’s become great. He’s become one of the most watchable players in the comp.”
Riewoldt, a three-time Coleman Medallist, three-time All-Australian and two-time Jack Dyer Medallist, has kicked 694 goals in 294 matches in the yellow and black.
He comes out of contract at the end of this season.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/01/crazy-stuff-dwayne-russell-rubbishes-riewoldt-trade-suggestion/
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Matty Richardson got moved to a wing so Jack can play and learn the game up forward. Trading Jack is the wrong solution getting him up the ground is what will work here now.
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
His old team hates his guts. Just like everyone else
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
Take the blinkers off.
Premiership, 300 games, 4 best and fairests and a couple of all Australians.
He’s a Port Adelaide great without doubt.
Just because he’s a grade A flog, doesn’t change what he achieved as a footballer
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I didn’t know he won 4 b+f HOLY MOLY. For me I think of wanganeen, Burgoyne and tredrea as port royalty. Everyone else is a bit meh to me.
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No wonder he hates us. We spoiled his 300th and final game :snidegrin.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/K/Kane_Cornes.html
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
Take the blinkers off.
Premiership, 300 games, 4 best and fairests and a couple of all Australians.
He’s a Port Adelaide great without doubt.
Just because he’s a grade A flog, doesn’t change what he achieved as a footballer
Spot on Damo, was a heart and soul player for Port, would have been Lorded as legend by everyone here had he played in the yellow and black.
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
Take the blinkers off.
Premiership, 300 games, 4 best and fairests and a couple of all Australians.
He’s a Port Adelaide great without doubt.
Just because he’s a grade A flog, doesn’t change what he achieved as a footballer
Spot on Damo, was a heart and soul player for Port, would have been Lorded as legend by everyone here had he played in the yellow and black.
Like Wayne Campbell who also played 300 (practically) and won 4 b&f’s.
At least Campbo had the dignity to bow out at the right time and not limp to 300 before splitting to be a “fireman” which was always a red herring. He was a great alright .... a great big flog who played for himself and cracked it when he got dropped and retired
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Didn’t campbo say something like he didn’t want to eclipse the games record of Bourke and dyer because he didn’t feel right having his name held next to theirs so bowed out?
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I think referring to cornes as a “port Adelaide great” is a bit of a stretch
Take the blinkers off.
Premiership, 300 games, 4 best and fairests and a couple of all Australians.
He’s a Port Adelaide great without doubt.
Just because he’s a grade A flog, doesn’t change what he achieved as a footballer
LMAO - he was a good tagger but he got played as tagger for the same reason most taggers end up in that role - he was a very mediocre footballer...:shh
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Has always been sook.One year apparently didn't win the B and F and spat the dummy at the function stormed out then either his old man or brother consulted him to come back inside.
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Yep. I remember that. Sold his soul to the media for a salary. A professional troll
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Didn’t campbo say something like he didn’t want to eclipse the games record of Bourke and dyer because he didn’t feel right having his name held next to theirs so bowed out?
Yep.
Campbell says at this point in his life he's not upset about falling short of the milestone.
"In 15 years I may be. As a Richmond supporter when I was young and someone who loves the history, I think there's something good that Bourke, Dyer and Bartlett are the three players who head up the games list," Campbell said.
"If I play 303, am I a better player than Francis Bourke? I don't think so. I don't think it really matters that much.
"If 300 had have happened this year, it would have been great. I would have loved it."
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2113.msg22303#msg22303
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Didn’t campbo say something like he didn’t want to eclipse the games record of Bourke and dyer because he didn’t feel right having his name held next to theirs so bowed out?
Yep.
Campbell says at this point in his life he's not upset about falling short of the milestone.
"In 15 years I may be. As a Richmond supporter when I was young and someone who loves the history, I think there's something good that Bourke, Dyer and Bartlett are the three players who head up the games list," Campbell said.
"If I play 303, am I a better player than Francis Bourke? I don't think so. I don't think it really matters that much.
"If 300 had have happened this year, it would have been great. I would have loved it."
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2113.msg22303#msg22303
There’s a very worthy 4th member about to join that club in a few weeks time.
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Jack owns Kane by retweeting Cornes' tweet from late 2016 where he said at the time that Prestia for pick 6 was a mistake :wallywink.
https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1399912401277919232
:thumbsup
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Nothing when we win but the first 10 minutes on the show tonight was about us given we lost badly ::).
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"They've got a fair amount of serious issues that I don't think they can overcome."
Kane Cornes lists four reasons as to why Richmond will not win the premiership this season.
1. Opposition sides have discovered the how to stop Dusty blueprint.
2. Cotchin playing below his best.
3. Growing injury list.
4. MCG record unwinding.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1409490993519513601
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"It would be more of a shock for me if they went and did it again."
Matthew Lloyd takes a look at the recent Brisbane and Hawthorn dynasties, and explains why it's no surprise Richmond isn't as dominant as it has been.
Brisbane Hawthorn Richmond
2001 Premiers 2012 Grand Finalist 2017 Premiers
2002 Premiers 2013 Premiers 2018 Prelim Finalist
2003 Premiers 2014 Premiers 2019 Premiers
2004 Grand Finalist 2015 Premiers 2020 Premiers
2005 11th 2016 Straight sets 2021 ?
Reasons for falling away in the 5th year:
1. Your players lose hunger
2. You don't get top end (draft) talent into your football club.
3. Your system gets looked at and picked apart.
4. Your IP gets taken by other clubs.
5. Your best players becoming aging.
Kane Cornes added if Richmond ends up winning the flag this year it will be the greatest achievement he has ever seen in his lifetime.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1409492052367269888
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Kane Cornes added if Richmond ends up winning the flag this year it will be the greatest achievement he has ever seen in his lifetime.
If Cornwit strings a few sensible sentences together that would be the greatest achievement he has ever made
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Unfortunately they are 100% correct.
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I can’t disagree, wrote the same thing a couple of days ago. But coming from him is never anything other than a copy and paste from someone else.
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We got another mention last night. They compared our forward half stats from 2020 with this year.
2020 2021
Forward half diff 1st 7th
Forward half pressure 7th 9th
Forward half tackle diff 1st 7th
Lloyd expects us to respond to last week's shocker and blow Gold Coast away. "You wouldn't want to be playing Richmond this week".
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Forgot to post this last night but Caro also said Hardwick now refuses to go on 3aw because of her and her comments from earlier on in the year about him and his new relationship.
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Fair enough too. CW can gagf
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You can sometimes have more of a voice by denying it to those who need it to stay relevant
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You can sometimes have more of a voice by denying it to those who need it to stay relevant
:bow
great quote.
i think its fantastic what dimma has done, if in fact its true.
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"I think they'll rebound next year, but I think there's bigger growth at other teams."
Matthew Lloyd takes a look at which players have scope to improve next season and whether it's worth 'going again'.
Which Tigers can improve in 2022?
Not Can improve
Cotchin Dusty
Riewoldt Nankervis
Edwards Prestia
Grimes Lynch
Houli Vlastuin
*Lambert
*Bolton
*Baker
*Short
* Without the genuine superstars around them can they be at their best?
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1414552861023821825
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No Balta? Broad? Broad had improved every year.
What about RCD? He shows plenty. Mansell too. Stack.
Plenty of growth to be had.
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Eddie and Caro on last night's show:
Eddie: "I reckon you’ve been going easy on your club in the last 12 months."
Caro: "I don’t think the coach would agree."
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Eddie and Caro on last night's show:
Eddie: "I reckon you’ve been going easy on your club in the last 12 months."
Caro: "I don’t think the coach would agree."
:lol :lol
Reckon Caro is right :rollin
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Eddie and Caro on last night's show:
Eddie: "I reckon you’ve been going easy on your club in the last 12 months."
Caro: "I don’t think the coach would agree."
Eddie 3 flags in 4 years while your mob has won 2 in the last 50.
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stuff off Fathead- Caro goes harder at us than anybody... :thumbsdown
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Have you ever noticed Eddie always bring every conversation on this show either back to himself or Collingwood. It's unwatchable.
Wednesday night's FC is so bad I cannot watch it anymore.
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Eddie lacks relevance. He’s a dinosaur in a 50 something body.
His broadcasting technique is an abomination.
“It’s a goal” was what he shrieked a dozen times when Jack drew that r23.
Really Ed?
Caro doesn’t go tough enough on YOU - buffoon
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"That's a ridiculous comment. Out of all the teams, Richmond to win the premiership?"
Fair to say @kanecornes isn't impressed with Caro's tip for the flag! (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f440.png)
#9FootyClassified
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1503342693761622017
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Caro, Cornes, Hutchy & Lloyd discussing us.
(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f5e3.png) "I wouldn't want to be the Giants this week."
(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f5e3.png) "I don't think they have a top-eight midfield in the game."
The panel is split on where Richmond is headed in 2022.
#9FootyClassified
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1505875866747871235
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Kane Cornes 'concerned' by ageing Richmond midfield after Round 1 beatdown
By Chris De Silva
Nine WWOS
22 March 2022
Port Adelaide great Kane Cornes says he is "concerned" by Richmond's shock Round 1 loss to Carlton, questioning whether the Tigers' ageing midfield can compete with the AFL's best.
After holding a 20-point lead early on in the fourth quarter, the Tigers were overrun by Carlton in sensational fashion, with the Blues' younger midfield brigade getting on top.
Richmond was monstered in the middle of the ground, with Carlton winning the clearance battle 40-22, which led to a whopping inside-50 disparity won by the Blues 64-40.
The Blues had the game's five leading possession-getters, with Dustin Martin's 21 touches Richmond's highest.
While the loss has been attributed to Round 1 rust by some, Cornes says it reveals a deeper problem with the veteran side.
"I'm a bit more concerned," Cornes told Nine's Footy Classified.
"I didn't quite buy into the hype of the pre-season just because of the list. While you say it's just one game, and let's not over react to Round 1 which we can tend to do, this is not just off the back of Round 1."
Cornes said he was concerned by yet another soft-tissue injury to Dion Prestia, who trudged off after quarter-time after registering 10 disposals.
Prestia's single-quarter tally almost toppled those of both Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards, with the veteran duo managing just 14 touches apiece.
Comparatively, Carlton's centre-bounce crew of Matthew Kennedy, Adam Cerra and Patrick Cripps all tallied 30 disposals or more.
"I've written them off since last year because their midfield suffers from a lack of depth, their best players get injured, they're old, and they've got a B-plus ruckman," Cornes said.
"So I just don't think they have the depth. Unbelievable team, a lot of them are going straight to the Hall of Fame. I don't think they've got a top-eight midfield in the game."
Cornes pointed in particular to the play of Richmond's former captain, Cotchin, whose output has noticeably diminished over the last 18 months.
"When you look at the mix of the midfield, and you look at Cotchin, yeah, great record and he's done a lot in the game, (but) it's not Trent Cotchin," he said.
"That's a 14-possession player who had five effective disposals on Thursday night.
"I thought he went on one year too long and I said that on this show last year.
"Prestia just gets injured every time, Kane Lambert has a long-term injury, Jack Graham is a good, solid, honest battler, and Dustin Martin is probably not the Dustin Martin we've known.
"When you compare their midfield to the rest, and you need a good midfield, a good centre-bounce team to win it, they don't have that right now."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/kane-cornes-says-richmond-midfield-not-top-eight-trent-cotchin-dion-prestia/afca9e0d-2ec7-4b1e-88c9-0d60aabad8bc
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Likw most cannot stand cornes but kudos to him at least he is being honest about where we are at atm.
We all know the better players are on the down hill slope and unfortunately there has been little coming thru to replace em.
I liked the honest assesment on Graham, is a good solid honest battler pretty well sums him up and he is one people are expecting to take up the mantle.
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Thought I'd watch this show as I knew they'd talk about Dusty. My god, Sam Maclure is unwatchable. Constantly interrupts the other panelists. Does it on radio all the time, drives me bonkers.
No wonder it's on late and getting later.
Drivel.
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"Cotchin only had 18 disposals. He was solid" - Cornes
We haven't cared about our players racking up huge individual disposal stats since 2017 yet Cornes is still judging our players by disposal stats :facepalm.
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"Cotchin only had 18 disposals. He was solid" - Cornes
We haven't cared about our players racking up huge individual disposal stats since 2017 yet Cornes is still judging our players by disposal stats :facepalm.
Port players had massive stats on the weekend and got spanked by a bottom 4 side :lol
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"Cotchin only had 18 disposals. He was solid" - Cornes
We haven't cared about our players racking up huge individual disposal stats since 2017 yet Cornes is still judging our players by disposal stats :facepalm.
Ummm. Some on here use stats to judge ;)
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"Cotchin only had 18 disposals. He was solid" - Cornes
We haven't cared about our players racking up huge individual disposal stats since 2017 yet Cornes is still judging our players by disposal stats :facepalm.
Ummm. Some on here use stats to judge ;)
Crawnes?
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"Watch the work rate." 👏👏
@matthewlloyd18 on the tactic from the Tigers that has shades of their 2020 premiership form, and is worrying clubs around the league.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1538875876099637248
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What Dimma means by 'Richmond Man behaviors'.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1538880877052284931
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Eddie McGuire idea to fix Norf, pick 1 & 2, pick 1 rookie draft, pick 1 mid season draft. They'll get the latter two anyway.
Trade JHF to Adelaide for Taylor Walker and BRAD CROUCH who plays for St Kilda by the way.
This show and Eddie now a bit of a joke.
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Well if JHF doesn't wanna stay and he's from SA he could go to crows. Walker been in fine form but he's old. M Crouch a dime a dozen mid IMO.
Hopefully the AFL doesn't give them another R1 pick but I wouldn't put it past them. They love throwing freebies at struggling and favourite clubs.
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Rewarding incompetence is ridiculous and unfair to all other clubs
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Rewarding incompetence is ridiculous and unfair to all other clubs
Concur
And I'm happy for crap clubs to be crap forever
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Dangerous precedent to reward tanking.
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We were the recipient of priority picks in the past .. as was Melbourne .. but there were set criterias .. this is being made up by the AFL as they go along
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Dangerous precedent to reward tanking.
I don't think N0rt are tanking
They are just crap.
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Dangerous precedent to reward tanking.
I don't think N0rt are tanking
They are just crap.
Yup :lol :lol
Very very crap
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North brought this all upon themselves topping up when they were nowhere near playing finals let alone contending. Port saw them coming getting Pick 11 for Polec & Pittard :lol. Also North giving up Pick 26 for Jaidyn Stephenson and trading for injured Dom Tyson, Aaron Hall, Aiden Bonar, etc plus us getting Pick 19 for CCJ ;D. No way should they receive charity picks to reward their incompetence.
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Maybe we can offload our list cloggers to Norf for another pick lol.
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Maybe we can offload our list cloggers to Norf for another pick lol.
3 time premiership champion Jason Castagna is an excellent player and I think we could let him go to Norf if we were to get a decent pick for him. :rollin
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That good ol shin bone head spirit
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Tonight they wanted to clean out our list at the end of the season ::).
Retirements: Cotchin, Riewoldt, Lambert, Edwards.
Trades: Baker, D.Rioli, Dusty
Off-field: Peggy, Gale.
"There's a really decent chance that he's somewhere else next year."
@sam_mcclure says Dustin Martin may leave the Tigers at the end of the season, but not necessarily for the Sydney Swans as has been rumoured.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1543927311556386818
Cornes put up a graphic claiming we've got a soft tissue injury problem despite 6 of the 8 players on his list being no longer injured and are playing [touchwood] :huh3.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/SoftTissueInjuriesIn2022.png)
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I’ve been bangin on about our injury issues for a while. Need to replace Burge at end of year
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I’ve been bangin on about our injury issues for a while. Need to replace Burge at end of year
I blame the cold weather, it’s been brutal this year or am I just getting older? :help :rollin
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Its been brutally cold.
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Idiot Cornes last night accused Jack of diving and said he was lucky not to be fined by the MRO ::) when in fact Jack was actually pushed by Cumberland. Even the ump told Jack he was pushed.
Go to 0:55 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1551553609371975680
:stupid
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Cornehole is a stuffwit. I refuse to watch or listen to anything he is on
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Hutchy asked Cornes if Port would consider Dimma to be their next coach.
Let's just make a story out of thin air :facepalm.
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Caro: "You won't let up on Richmond."
Cornes: "If you can't win the midfield with the investment that you've made..."
Kane and Caro go head-to-head on Richmond's future and Andrew McQualter.
#9FootyClassified 📺
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1688529964902080512
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I’d rather bleach my own ahole than watch any show with cornehole on it
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"I watch Richmond and I don't see a lot of hope."
@kanecornes believes the Tigers midfield is desperate for more speed, with too many 'plodders', as the panel debates the club's future.
#9FootyClassified 📺
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1691062502204084224
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Back for its 18th year Hutch kept reminding us...
And we were the lead story
Hutchy said after a horror start things might be about to get worse for Richmond off field....
Over to Caro....
Caro said she expects Benny Gale to named as the CEO of the new Tassie side within weeks.
She said Benny has to give the 6 months notice as per his contract. Then said the board will ask for him to stay a bit longer but he will be at Taasie in 2025. Yes 3 years out but the Tassie board want to get everything right ...
Not one thing about it any either of our dailies (on line at least)
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Here are the clips:
"My understanding is that Brendon Gale's departure is imminent."
Caroline Wilson believes this will be the celebrated Richmond CEO's last season at Tigerland, with Gale set to join the Tasmanian team.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1767146660193345716
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"I don't know why any of these players are playing. What benefit is the club getting from picking these players?"
@kanecornes on the Tigers who loom as potential tough calls for Adem Yze.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1767149725310955549
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- Gale will be a bigger loss than Martin, Cotchin & Riewoldt combined.... :help
- and Cornes is right for once.... :shh
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Benny was the clubs greatest recruit and sadly it looks like it’s greatest loss now. Not sure if he can be adequately replaced to be honest.
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Benny was the clubs greatest recruit and sadly it looks like it’s greatest loss now. Not sure if he can be adequately replaced to be honest.
Personally Peggy was just as big a loss
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Much as think Cornes is motivated by a dislike for the club I think he is on the mark about investing in youth. Would be a very significant blow to the club if Gale left the club. Gale's contribution to the club cannot be underestimated.
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Joel Bowden anybody?
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He's a politician these days isn't he? Couldn't see him moving back to Melbs regardless. Smart bloke though
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A significant pay rise?
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'Why are they playing?': Kane Cornes puts blowtorch on senior Richmond players
By Damien McCartney
Nine
12 March 2024
Kane Cornes has taken aim at Tigers club bosses and coach Adem Yze after a lack-lustre opening round showing against the Gold Coast Suns.
Before they even lined up against the Suns, the Tigers were tipped to be facing an uphill battle to play September footy.
Yze last September said he wouldn't "put a ceiling" on his side's expectations for the 2024 season.
But after their performance against the Suns, Cornes said they would be better off blooding youth, and questioned the places of several senior players in the side.
Bombers great Matthew Lloyd suggested a weak roster was a contributing factor in Hardwick's departure last season, despite pushing club bosses to sign Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto from the Giants in 2022.
"I think he would have seen what was coming at Tigerland – he knows the list better than anybody," he said.
"Nobody leaves a strong list that's about to win something, do they?"
Cornes said club bosses should have seen a performance drop coming.
"This was on the cards for two years – I can't believe no one has really seen this coming, in particular the club and Damien Hardwick," Cornes said.
He paid particular attention to the performances of Jayden Short, Dion Prestia, Dylan Grimes and Tim Taranto against the Suns.
"I was disappointed, firstly, in the efforts of some of the senior players. If you're going to get these efforts from your senior players, you've got no hope for the youngsters," he said.
Replays of the weekend then showed Short missing an easy boundary tackle, and then a "rubbish" turnover. Another replay showed Dylan Grimes spraying a free kick out on the full from inside his own 50m line.
Cornes said Yze was facing big calls on not only Grimes, but also Kamdyn McIntosh, Marlion Pickett, Jacob Koschitzke, Sam Naismith and Nathan Broad.
"I don't know why these players are playing. What benefit is the club getting from playing these players?" he posed.
"(Jacob Koschitzke) couldn't get a game at Hawthorn last year – he played 12 games last year in a 16th-ranked side.
"I'm not sure what they thought they would see in him.
"What's the point of playing Pickett, McIntosh and Grimes? Play the youth, take the pressure off the club, do what Hawthorn have done and re-set and go to the draft and re-build from the bottom-up."
Veteran journalist and fellow panellist Caroline Wilson suggested Hardwick was responsible for the Tigers' decline for going all-in on Taranto and Hopper.
In order to secure Taranto, the Tigers gave up two 2022 draft picks – No.13 Jedd Busslinger, and No.22 Max Gruzewski. For Hopper, they gave up 2022 No.34 pick Toby McMullin and the 2023 No.8 pick Daniel Curtin.
Cornes said Curtin in particular – who was picked up by the Crows – would have been a great fit for the Tigers.
"We saw with Clarkson at Hawthorn – you need a strong footy department around a coach who wants to be all-in to win," Cornes said.
"Of course you want to trade to keep winning, but you need some strong leadership to say 'nah, nah, this isn't the time to trade away the future'.
"Curtin would be the one – he's gone to Adelaide highly-rated (and) could have gone in the top three in the draft," he said.
"The others look like they can play."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/news-2024-richmond-tigers-rebuild-hopper-taranto-kane-cornes-list-comments/f98cc27d-1b48-40ce-aa08-d0678991891f
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Should the Tigers commit to a full-scale rebuild? Or push on and risk getting stuck in no-man's land?
#9FootyClassified | TONIGHT 10PM on Nine & 9Now
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJgT1tCbAAA8iwU?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1772188408627986543
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"How motivated could that group that have been there [flag success] be if they know they can't win anytime soon?"
The panel reacts to Richmond's rough start to 2024, and whether the Tigers need to weigh up moving on some of their stars.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1772222381458645107
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"I nearly drove off the road when I heard this."
@kanecornes confronts Caro over her suggestion the Tigers have been 'completely shafted' in the fixture, as the panel looks back at her calls on Richmond in recent years.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1772224875702132847
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Just commit to the rebuild. That doesn’t mean trade everyone over 25, it means forget about who’s won flags and just play who deserves to be played
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To add to that, I think everyone knows we will lose a lot of games this year. Let’s atleast lose whilst
Exploring our young talent rather than playing the same old guys who will probably leave at the end of the year
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Getting to a stage for me that I'd consider moving on Prestia, KMac, Grimes, Pickett.
And test market value of Bolton, Graham, Broad, Short
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Getting to a stage for me that I'd consider moving on Prestia, KMac, Grimes, Pickett.
And test market value of Bolton, Graham, Broad, Short
Yes to all of the above.
No man’s land is coming unless we get serious about rebuilding.
I hope those in charge can see this. .
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Caro said Gibcus has been a disappointment.
Disappointment implies that's he hasn't been playing well....
WTF - What she should have said is that he's been injured.
Honestly, i could do a better job on Footy classified.
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It’s disappointing that Gibcus will be entering his 4 year with only 20 games under his belt.
He’s been our only first round draft pic since Vlastuin .
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She's an imbecile incapable of articulating her arguments properly which results in her making bizarre statements such as the Gibcus one. Even if she's trying to say the right thing it comes out poorly and she looks like a nuffy.
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Caro said Gibcus has been a disappointment.
Disappointment implies that's he hasn't been playing well....
WTF - What she should have said is that he's been injured.
Honestly, i could do a better job on Footy classified.
That's the way you've taken her comment to mean
I took it to mean the injuries have meant the return so far has been disappointing that is the number of games
You obviously missed her comments around our younger players when the 3 musketeers were spruiking lead by Cornes that we had no decent young players coming through? She talked up Gibcus, McAuliffe, Brown to name a few
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Getting to a stage for me that I'd consider moving on Prestia, KMac, Grimes, Pickett.
And test market value of Bolton, Graham, Broad, Short
How do you test the market without the player finding out, getting annoyed and then forcing their way out at less then their value?
Imo you gotta commit to it strongly or only explore it if a player requests it.
I would think it would be very risky for a player of the caliber of Bolton and I know he has dis detractors on here but short is a very good half back flanker who would slot into most of not all teams. For a graham or broad type I don’t think their trade value is anywhere near high enough to the point where we may be left taking unders if they end up forcing the move.
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Getting to a stage for me that I'd consider moving on Prestia, KMac, Grimes, Pickett.
And test market value of Bolton, Graham, Broad, Short
How do you test the market without the player finding out, getting annoyed and then forcing their way out at less then their value?
Imo you gotta commit to it strongly or only explore it if a player requests it.
I would think it would be very risky for a player of the caliber of Bolton and I know he has dis detractors on here but short is a very good half back flanker who would slot into most of not all teams. For a graham or broad type I don’t think their trade value is anywhere near high enough to the point where we may be left taking unders if they end up forcing the move.
I suppose you'd have to say to those players, look mate, we're on the rebuild and we need to find ways to accelerate the process, you've had success with us at the highest level and we thank you for that, would you consider moving to another club if it was beneficial for you financially etc and if it improved our clubs draft position so that we can look to the future?
For guys like Broad it would probably be their last contract and chance to make some coin. Short at 28 probably his last chance to secure a 5 year deal. Graham and Bolton are younger but Bolton has a shot to secure big $$ whereas Graham honestly IMO he's not best 22 and should be considering other clubs for more opportunity if our match committee wasn't stupid enough to play him whenever he's fit.
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Caro said Gibcus has been a disappointment.
Disappointment implies that's he hasn't been playing well....
WTF - What she should have said is that he's been injured.
Honestly, i could do a better job on Footy classified.
That's the way you've taken her comment to mean
I took it to mean the injuries have meant the return so far has been disappointing that is the number of games
You obviously missed her comments around our younger players when the 3 musketeers were spruiking lead by Cornes that we had no decent young players coming through? She talked up Gibcus, McAuliffe, Brown to name a few
Maybe she meant that but what she actually said was "Gibcus has been a disappointment".
Lloyd rightfully pointed out that every single club in the league has young players that seem somewhat promising eg Brown/McAuliffe. And they do.
I don't think the rest of the panel were far off the mark to be honest.
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Caro said Gibcus has been a disappointment.
Disappointment implies that's he hasn't been playing well....
WTF - What she should have said is that he's been injured.
Honestly, i could do a better job on Footy classified.
That's the way you've taken her comment to mean
I took it to mean the injuries have meant the return so far has been disappointing that is the number of games
You obviously missed her comments around our younger players when the 3 musketeers were spruiking lead by Cornes that we had no decent young players coming through? She talked up Gibcus, McAuliffe, Brown to name a few
Maybe she meant that but what she actually said was "Gibcus has been a disappointment".
Lloyd rightfully pointed out that every single club in the league has young players that seem somewhat promising eg Brown/McAuliffe. And they do.
I don't think the rest of the panel were far off the mark to be honest.
Didn't see it, but even at face value for the written statement I wouldn't consider her to be disparaging of Gibcus. She's clearly talking about his disappointing run with injury. Not a single AFL observer would say his performance has been disappointing.
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Well she wasn't clearly saying that. She said he's been a disappointment. That was the statement.
It's not up to everyone else to decide what she means
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Well she wasn't clearly saying that. She said he's been a disappointment. That was the statement.
It's not up to everyone else to decide what she means
No, it's up to us to interpret it, and because I'm not an idiot I can see what she meant clearly.
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You didn't see it but you can interpret it. You're clearly not an idiot but a genius
Grimes is a disappointment
What do I mean, Andy?
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You didn't see it but you can interpret it. You're clearly not an idiot but a genius
Grimes is a disappointment
What do I mean, Andy?
Hmmm well let's see.
Grimes is 32, played 200+ games for the club, came via the PSD, has 3 premiership medals, an AA jacket, a B&F, is the former captain of the club and in the twilight of his career.
Gibcus is 20, came to us as a top 10 draft pick, and is now going to be sidelined for two full years of his first 3 years with the club.
I wonder what could be disappointing about Gibcus' situation?
Let's get the brains trust together and see if we can figure it out.
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You would think unfortunate would be the word, wouldn't you. However it's not the first time she's said he's a disappointment. It's a bit of Cumberland with a few on here. A weird one.
Let her explain
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Maybe she meant that but what she actually said was "Gibcus has been a disappointment".
Lloyd rightfully pointed out that every single club in the league has young players that seem somewhat promising eg Brown/McAuliffe. And they do.
I don't think the rest of the panel were far off the mark to be honest.
Some of things the 3 musketeers were spot on about but they as per normal talked over Caro and jumped on her about her Richmond views and at times Bin Boy (though he'd struggle to fit in one these days) belittled her for whacking the AFL about the Tigers draw
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Hutchy? He agreed with her about the fixturing
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Hutchy? He agreed with her about the fixturing
Yeah but had a nice little dig at the end
Will give him credit for taking Cornes to task for not whacking the Hawks like he does Richmond. Although it didn't last long
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I don't get this speed up our rebuild by getting rid of senior players rubbish. Hardwick spent years using recycled players to make up a competitive 22 while the kids came on. Remember Matt Thomas and Nathan Gordon and those types of retreads. There is no point in playing 18 juniors and getting our arses whomped each week. Keep the senior experience while you can and accept your going to add games to at most 10 new players each year but do it in competitive games with a core of senior players around the kids. This will go on for two or 3 years until Gibcus and the like have 50+ games.