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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ox on July 25, 2004, 06:40:03 PM
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If thats how the club is going to play football then Why even Turn Up ?
Frawley should go now - there's no point in him being there.
Did he evn coach today ?????
Dragacevic=Dud
Tivendale=Dud.
Zantuck=Dud
Rodan=Dud
Chaffey=Dud
Johnson isn't a captains areshole,thats the problem,too many arsholes and not enuff leaders.]
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For the first two and half quarters we had a dip but once the margin got out to 4-5 goals it was junk time. As has been the case all year we are too short down back and couldn't contend with their three talls Neitz, Miller and Holland especially as we again were smashed in the clearances. None of Zantuck, Bowden and AK are KP defenders. You might get away with one on the 3rd tall forward but not all three.
Add to that our execution of our skills and decision making as always are in the main deplorable. Time and time again we ignored the first option when it was the best option and ran back into traffic. I thought Rodan played his best game for about 2 years but he was guilty of this a few times by tucking the ball under his arm but at least he put his body in to get the pill unlike many of his soft teammates who were continually beaten in 50/50 contests or hung off and expected another Tiger to do all the hard work against 3 Demons >:(.
Our need to handball backwards before going forwards is laughable. It causes our players to have to stop and wait so they are mostly always flat-footed and enables the opposition to get number back. Add to that we don't have the skills to pull this high possession game off. A quick long kick forward to forwards playing in front >:( is too obvious for Frawley and our boys. Same old same old. Making what should be simple so difficult ::).
Krakouer had his best game in a while by a long shot. Showed his class.
Jackson had an excellent first half. Very clean and honest.
Pettifer did what he had to do. Bowden was good for 3 quarters. Second quarter Miller got away from him.
Tivs is really struggling this year to have any impact.
Chaffey was better today.
Houlihan - why bother showing up. Too slow.
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Oh as for turning up. I think many Tiger members had asked that same question Ox before the game today. The members section on the wing was very sparse today although how much that had to do with it being a Sunday game is anyone's guess. On the other hand the Melbourne crowd were packed in their sections. Normally Richmond outnumber Melbourne supporters by quite alot but today I'd reckon it was 50/50 at best.
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Melbourne were playing with us. Watching it I got the sense that they could have upped it a level or two if they decided to take us seriously.
Fiora and Tivendale should have both been traded last year. Front runners of the highest order. I could see them doing good things in a team like Port Adelaide.
As for the likes of Houlihan, Dragicevic and Hyde, not up to AFL football.
Rodan played good today, and Chaffey did ok. Both played their best games in ages. Lets see if they can back it up for the next two or three games. I doubt it. Andrew Kellaway looks finished.
Kane Johnson = A fresher Wayne Campbell minus the footy smarts. Won't do a better job captaining the side than Campbell, but he won't draw as much criticism, which is a good thing I suppose.
Let's hope Cogs has a good year next year and can assume the captaincy in 2006. Let's hope someone like Jackson really comes on by that time and can be given a leadership role as well. Looks like he will be something special.
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There's always something salvaged from the wreckage ox.
Pettifer is going to be good. Jackson hates being beaten. Rodan played like it was last year. I think you'll hate this one, Fleming is developing as an on-field leader.
There were glaring examples in support of each looking from the stands. Haven't seen a replay to see if it also shows on TV.
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Yes guys,we can salvage something.
Petifer was pretty good.
Im a Fleming fan so I was happy with his form.
Rodan just doesnt have a football brain.
He can get the ball but most of the time he gets caught or kicks to opposition.
I dont think he is of much value to us as we stand.
I also believe Frawley should leave Punt road immediately.
No sense in going on with him,get a caretaker.
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I also believe Frawley should leave Punt road immediately.
No sense in going on with him,get a caretaker.
A priority draft pick is a dead certainity with him coaching :shh.
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yeah, that's his only saving grace. If we somehow manage to win two games though..... :banghead :banghead
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Well i got a big laugh out of today, a guy sitting near us had just taken a bite out of his pie when, Wham! it got smashed by one of the incoming practice shots at goal. It just exploded all over him and the lady next to him! I nearly wet myself laughing :lol
Oh the game? Nope didn't laugh too much at that but I was impressed by Jackson, Bowden, Pettifer and Rodan :cheers
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Why indeed ;D
There were a couple of positives -
Jackson - he just looks so smart and he is only 18 :bow :o
Hartigan - shows leadership and he is only 18 :thumbsup
Rodan's form was the best it's been all year - made some mistakes but at least he got the bloody ball
Tim Fleming - agree FF shows some leadership :thumbsup
Pettifer - set a task this week and did well gave us another option ;)
The why bothers and the reasons why people wont show up:
Houlihan - fair well, adios, seeya, Gooooooooooooodbyeeeeeeeeeee >:( >:(
Ray Hall - too slow in decision making :-\ :-\ and the skills :-[
Tivendale - what the hell is going on ??? >:(
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Dragacevic=Dud
Zantuck=Dud
Rodan=Dud
Come on Ox, get fair dinkim!!
Most of Draga's touches came from hospital handballs which put him under pressure and caused turnovers. Hardly can blame then on draga.
Zantuck was playing out of position and in one on one contests competed fairly well against neitz.
And as for Rodan, it was by far his best game that he has ever played for the Tigers.
Did you actually attend the game?
If Not, then you and all of the other arm chair supporters should reserve judgement! >:(
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Sorry Bullus but if u rekkon thats Rodans best game for us ever then you're off the mark.
Most of Draggas disposals were hospital jobs or short of the mark.
Zantuck the walking attitude was a dud,along with the whole back line....actually the whole farken team.
What a pathetic bunch of directionless,heartless peas they all act like.
Johnson,if he is to be our future captain,is offering what ??????????
Ottens,whom I've been patient with ,is shot to pieces and can only hit out to opposition players.
The kids are the only brigade who can be excused from this joke of a team.
Also if u think I'm an armchair supporter then go right ahead but dont
think cos you're there you have the right to reserve judgement on me and my opinions,
you can shove that up your ars.
I dont wanna seem confrontational but not everyone works 9-5 and has the luxury of week-ends free
nor should i have to explain my actions to justify myself.
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I didnt go today either Ox.I have been a diehard for 27 years but my threshold was well and truly exceeded after the Freo game.The current team is the most pitiful to represent us in my lifetime.
I agree with your comments in regards to having an opinion whether you are present or not and anyone who passes comments such as "were you there?" must have their photo next to moron in the dictionary.
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Dragga didn't exactly have the ball handed to him as he'd like (on all 8 occasions he touched the footy), but his own disposal also left a lot to be desired. I'm willing to leave him in the side for another 3 or so weeks, but it will just be going through the motions in my opinion. At best he will find his feet as a 15 possession midfielder, which doesn't cut it.
I agree Zantuck was played out of position, but the problem is, what is his position? When tried off the back flank he hasn't exactly set the world on fire and he has only shown rare glimpses when given the opportunity to go forward. I think he needs a kick up the ars and needs to take some responsibility off the field if his footy is to improve on it. He is courageous and goes in, but he doesn't look anywhere near fit enough to hold down any position at the moment.
Rodan played really well but needs to play like that consistently. One performace every 10 weeks does not justify a spot in the team. Needs to finish the year off strongly.
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Thanx TigerTailz.
I'd imagine Bullus is more peeed off than a moron.
Dont take it out on me Bullus,go and visit that shiela.lol
Rodan.
Gets the ball and bounces every 5 steps.
When he does get thru he's too stuffed to give the kick any weight and usually turns it over OR picks
the worst option.
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Im really hoping,praying ...you name it that we can bring some more younger guys in JohnF.
Surely there is nothing to lose by bringing Gilmour and Raines in.
I'd also give dragga another go.
Despite todays effort, Im genuinely disappointed with Rodan.Expected a lot more from him after some terriffic performances in 2002.Dont think he will be kept by new coach.
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Same here TT.
At least with all the kids running around we would be making a positive out
of a negative.
Watching guys like Chaff,Tivendale,Fiora,supposed leaders of the club,run around today
gave u a sick feeling in the guts.
Im sick of screaming and yelling and being stressed to the max about it.
I've reached the stage now,as sad as it is,that i am hoping we lose every week
all in the name of a priority Draft pik.
Sad aint it ??
Frawley should be escorted off the premises 2morrow morning and a caretaker brought in.
We still wont win any games but his mere presence at the place is a bad omen.
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Im peed off too Ox.Big time.
Ok moron might be a bit harsh and I dont mean too offend Bullus or anyone on this forum in this current climate created by our club.
I reiterate that I believe that an opinion can be expressed regardless of attendance to a game.
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Playing the young'uns is a good idea tailz. But only if fuddley duddley gives them at least 3 quarters on the ground. He gave Thomas Roach a game today and had him on for about a quarter. Doing that just stalls a kids career and he is better of playing down at the 'Burg.
Its pretty disheartening seeing blokes likes Fiora, Kellaway, Hall and Tivendale underperform when we have kids waiting to burst onto the scene.
About Rodan, apparently he had a really bad pre-season, so I'm hoping that that accounts for his schithouse form this year. He definitely looks a pace slower and more puffed out this year than he did in the previous years he was at the club....
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Yeah spot on Ox.
Im exactly the same.I love going to the game.I would move heaven end earth and work ridiculous hours at work to enable me to go and watch the Tiges.Since the Freo game I have lost my will to go.The depression that sets in post game now really does drive me nuts.
Thank Geez for this forum and people like yourself who write such entertaining articles that let me see the lighter side of things. :thumbsup
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Rodan should be better JohnF, and so should the tivendales etc
There is some sort of bermuda triangle operating at Punt Rd. where promising form is disappearing into.
Dont know if the triangle has one coach at every point- frawley,brittain and hutchison. :P
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;D, that's a good way of putting it..
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Sorry if i was a little aggresive towards you last night.
It was a build up of frustration and a gut full of beer!!!( i had just got home from a wedding) ;D
While i dont agree with all of your comments, i probably did attack you a little more than is acceptable.
To quote Frawley "At the end of the day" we are all after the same success.
Lets hope that the tide starts to change soon and we can enjoy our footy for a change.
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You go to watch the following.
Jackson, will be a ten year player at the Tiges, no doubt.
Hartigan. is prepared to have a go, will develop.
Krakouer. Is exciting when gets the ball, imagine him in a good team !
Richo. Watch him do the unthinkable and have a laugh.
Fleming. At least has a dip and is prepared to carry the footy.
People then stay away for the following.
Ottens, watched his opponent in White run down the ground to get uncontested possesions with big Brad standing 50 metres away with his hands on his hips.
Anyone who says that Brad is an athletic Ruckman is mentally unsound ! Brad Ottens is a disgrace, no excuses please !
Tivendale. Dont waste your time on him, gutless!
Hall. His kicking was like watching the Auskick at half time.
Houilhan. You have to laugh , its like watching the game in slow motion
Roach. Too small unfortunately, needs to have a big pre-season
Draga. You cant kick around corners Mark, please ! This is something you should of learnt at under 13 level.Tried on several occasions to kick across his body.Unless you get this out of your game imediately, kiss your career good bye.
Kellaway. Your brother showed the way, follow suit please, Fancy Ben Holland towelling you up, enough said.
Fiora. Just go,
As for Rodan, his best game for ages although lets see what happens NEXT WEEK !
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Good comments there Jackstar.
Jackson was most impressive yesterday.
Kane Johnson was furious at Ottens that time he just stood at half forward and watched White get cheap touches. He yelled at him to come down and Ottens just looked totally dis-interested.
If he isnt prepared to work his backside off over summer he must go.
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Back up the truck people:
Jackstar, why do you bag Hall for his poor kicking when Fleming is the worst kick in our side....Someone else posted earlier that Johno wont get as critisized as Campo, why is that? Johno isnt doing any better.....yet we are all willing to cut him some slack. His performances have been toilet duck this year.
Anyway here is my rant:
F*ck any c**t on the coaching staff who had a say in Tuckerbag getting dropped for Chaff and Houlahoop sissy.
That already peeed me off.....
Im willing to give time to Dragga, even though I dont think he is up to it.
How bad is Fiora? It frustrates me that this idiot runs around and gets a game....
I liked Rodan finally running with the ball...breaking the lines.
Jackson was solid, Zantuck made me eat my words and was contesting the one on ones, Kraks is just magic, Richo, must love him....Fleming, get out NOW!....Ohh Tivvers, you are letting me down.
I cant be bothered with this poo team anymore. I just want some ticker and while I got some for a bit, more than a half would be nice!
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Well i got a big laugh out of today...
Me too 2JD. The group I sit with all bought lucky envelopes. (I think the cheer squad sell them and they have a number on them, which is the winning margin - either team can win). Not sure how much you win if you score the winning margin of the game.
Anyway, we had tickets with 82, 75, 50, 52 and 56.
So, in the last quarter when it got to around 50 points everyone was barracking for their margin.
Mine was 75, so I gave up on that one and 56 looked the likely winner so we were cheering anything that made it look like 56 was going to get up. At one stage we were heading towards goal and I, inexplicably, yelled out, this is no time to start playing attacking footy Tiges :-\, which is a bit of a worry. :lol
There's was nothing much else to get excited about and those around us couldn't help but laugh at us all and even they cheered when 56 got up. :rollin
At least it was a bit of fun. :thumbsup
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Sorry if i was a little aggresive towards you last night.
It was a build up of frustration and a gut full of beer!!!( i had just got home from a wedding) ;D
While i dont agree with all of your comments, i probably did attack you a little more than is acceptable.
To quote Frawley "At the end of the day" we are all after the same success.
Lets hope that the tide starts to change soon and we can enjoy our footy for a change.
Good for u mate,no worries.
Whats a message forum without a bit of nit-picking........go figure :shh
Im all for it.
Hope u enjoyed the wedding.
LMAOOOO@Gutful of beer.
ALSO JACKSTAR*
Great comments.