One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on July 27, 2004, 03:08:50 AM
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What does everyone think of sending either jointly or separately an email to Greg Miller offering our support and upmost confidence in him? All this off-field crap seems to sadly have him at his last tether. If Miller leaves we might as well pack it all in as a Club :'(. He's appears to be the only one who has Richmond's best interests at heart :help.
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Yeah, why not?
I'm also willing to start the Fahkoff Pahoff Petition. Only need 100 signatures. :thumbsup
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Yep, send a group one Mighty.
We lose Greg over all this crap, we may as well say goodbye RFC
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We lose Greg over all this crap, we may as well say goodbye RFC
lets not get too carried away...
seems pretty clear mr casey is using Greg to blackmail us
vote me out and Miller goes , vote me back in and he stays
maybe i am being too cynical but thats how i see it...
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Hear hear Harry :thumbsup
Pretty childish of Miller if you ask me.
The clubs bigger than the individual.
If he wants to leave I'll open the door for him.
He should want to be there for the RFC and not soley for Casey.
Casey's had his time and failed. It'll be like Miller saying I'll only stay on if Frawley is given a contract extension.
Sign up Eade, a new set of assistants, and a new recruiting manager and start from scratch.
Who says Miller is the messiah anyway ?
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that 2 people on this alternative ticket namely Schwab & Welsh were on the boards that:
Appointed Gieschen, Frawley and gave Danny his extension and agreed with Greg Miller when he asked for that now infamous clause to be removed.
Approved the massive contracts given to (granted in the past) Gaspar & Daffy to name a few.
Can you see why people are nervous if Miller goes?
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At any other football club, it would not be the end of the world if Miller left, but at Richmond, where we have very little football nous, then it is a big deal.
And if Miller does go and we can't attract a Coach that knows his stuff then we might as well just close the doors now.
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I am hearing some sense in this topic.....if Miller wants to leave he can pee off.
Seriously, I dont get why people are supporting his antics of blackmail. We see success
at North and we immediately think he will translate it to us.
Gotta agree with the two Harrys on this one.
WP, question for you, what makes you think that Schwab and Welsh voted FOR and not AGAINST Frawleys extension and clause removal?
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WP, question for you, what makes you think that Schwab and Welsh voted FOR and not AGAINST Frawleys extension and clause removal?
om21,
Firstly I never said they voted "for" just said that they were on the board when those decisions were made. In all honesty I don't know about the removal of the clause but regarding the contract extension I can only go by what I have been told and one of them yeahed
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that 2 people on this alternative ticket namely Schwab & Welsh were on the boards that:
Appointed Gieschen, Frawley and gave Danny his extension and agreed with Greg Miller when he asked for that now infamous clause to be removed.
Approved the massive contracts given to (granted in the past) Gaspar & Daffy to name a few.
Can you see why people are nervous if Miller goes?
Exactly WP.
Miller is the only one with any idea about football down there and more importantly the only one with the best interests of the RFC in his heart. The tone of the email was one of heartfelt anguish. He was bleeding! Remember it wasn't a sanatised official press release but a personal email not meant for public view. He said what he felt and said some home truths about our footy club that needed to be told. We are a laughing stock. Have been for over 20 years. We have too many nobodies around the Club who hold no official position yet think they are more important and have far more influence than they really do, hence they cause nothing but trouble for those who are actually employed to run the Club. This IMHO is the cancer that has entrenched our culture - too many morons with egos and self-interest. I saw this first hand when I was younger. Nothing that has happened since, looking from the outside in, makes me think differently. The names change but the faceless remain. No wonder Miller has had a gutful of all this crap. As much as I believe we desperately need him to stay and want him to stay, I wouldn't blame him if he told the RFC now to get stuffed.
As much as Casey should go as well, it is laughable Schwab coming on radio this morning claiming no one would listen to him. What for over 5 years no one was listening to you Brendan? What were doing all that time then - Nothing? ::). As for Welsh if he was so concerned why was his silence deafening when he ran for re-election at the AGM earlier this year and why at the time of his departure did he give the excuse he no longer had the time. All of them should sod off! >:(.
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Miller seems to be making the best attempt, of anyone in a long time, to turn Richmond around (against insurmountable odds it seems).
Even though there's pain that goes with that, he doesn't seem to be deviating one inch from how he thinks things need to be done. People don’t see that though. Everyone wants the instant results and success and if it's not done their way then it must be the wrong way. For his troubles he has people belting him around the ears for his methods and for even trying.
Maybe Miller knows better than some that success doesn’t happen over night. It takes time, patience and a bit of cunning. Something very few adminstrators at Richmond have had.
As you say MT, he's one of very few who does seem to have the long-term interests of Richmond at heart.
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black·mail
Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.
How much are Casey and Miller asking for? ???
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Who says Miller is the messiah anyway ?
Is there a "put your hand up" icon I can use?
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Who says Miller is so smart anyway? If he was, the Roos wouldnt have kicked him out. Instead he applied for a promotion and they chose some clown from the AFL no-one ever heard of. And he didnt even last the year.
Everyone gives me poo and accuses me of having a messiah complex because I wanted Kevin Sheedy or Malthouse to coach us. Well right back at you to the Miller disciples. You're as guilty of messiah complexes as I am.
And I'd rather have Kevin Sheedy coaching RFC than Greg Miller as its football director.
Bring back Tommy as football director and coach and president and tell everyone else to fawrk off. If we going down the toilet, lets do it with the the fashion statement of an adidas t-shirt
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I'm not saying Miller is the messiah either. Too early to judge anyway. Yes one person isn't going to get us out of this mess, however, he is the only one down at the Club who is demonstrating any football nouse whatsoever and the only one following a plan through to its conclusion unlike the last 20 years of our history where we as a Club would bail out and demand change if initial results didn't bring immediate success.
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Yesterday, I agreed with you. Today, I dont.
For Miller to come out and say he wants Terry Wallace as coach in 2005 and everyone is going to stuff it up is rich. He could have had Wallace last year. Instead he argued to the board to keep Frawley as coach for 2004.
That's not football nouse.
Anyway, the board is called Richmond rant and I'm ranting. And I dont feel like stopping until everyone is sacked at Punt Rd and the guy that tipped manure out of the front of Brayshaw's office is made the coach.
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Well, I'm going to vote for the group Miller gets behind. I can do without Casey, and i can do without Schwab, but i can't do without my mu... Greg lol
He may or may not be the be all and end all of our woes, but i don't see nothing better - and haven't in the last 20 years that will turn our club around. So i'm putting my faith in him.
The main reason is because he is an outsider looking in dispassionately at us. I'm trusting his judgment as an unbiased, highly credentialled professional, who can look at what we need without rose-coloured glasses that we supporters sometimes ... actually nearly always view our club with.
I can't stand Casey, but if Greg supports him, i'll go with him.
And as Casey has said, he will put himself up for election in January - natural attrition for another person to take over, or Casey may survive on his own merits.
With how it is at the moment, with the possibility of losing the best available coach, i am not crazy about this new ticket for that reason. They screw the coaching selection up, stuff 'em.
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I agree with Froars. Miller is able to apply a less emotional viewpoint than some of us and at this stage I welcome that.
Speaking of blackmail, I think Pahoff and Shwab are the ones we should be accusing - their view is that is if Casey doesn't resign then they'll invoke their 100 signatures. If Pahoff was so concerned with the Tiges why did he pee off overseas for 4 weeks in the middle of the season and when we were in so called crisis? If Shwab was so concerned why didn't he show up to a few more board meetings when he was a director?
Casey mightn't be the saviour, but I think his ego's big enough that he won't want to walk away from the club and be considered a failure.
I notice that tonight Demetriou (or however you spell it) came out and said that the timing of the takeover group isn't great...didn't sound like he thought that we were about to fold. David Parkin also said that he thought that this turmoil would push us down the list as the most preferred club to go to which I think is what Miller feared.
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Yeah, the use of the word blackmail i reckon can be applied to both camps.
I actually think using the word will be the least of our problems. I think this is going to be a very dirty campaign and i don't think the RFC will come out the better for it.
If they really love the club as they profess, i really think that getting together now and work out ways to have this battle with minimal damage to our already pitiful image as a club.
You can do this ppl if you really care.
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Yeah, the use of the word blackmail i reckon can be applied to both camps.
I actually think using the word will be the least of our problems. I think this is going to be a very dirty campaign and i don't think the RFC will come out the better for it.
If they really love the club as they profess, i really think that getting together now and work out ways to have this battle with minimal damage to our already pitiful image as a club.
You can do this ppl if you really care.
I fear there are too many egos involved...dare I say it they're all men! (Whoops I said it). Miller was spot on - we are a laughing stock.....other clubs and supporters think we're a joke and yet we constantly reinforce the view anyway!
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For Miller to come out and say he wants Terry Wallace as coach in 2005 and everyone is going to stuff it up is rich. He could have had Wallace last year. Instead he argued to the board to keep Frawley as coach for 2004.
That's not football nouse.
THANK YOU. This all could have been solved last year and instead we point the finger at others. His demenour has been childish the past few days (not saying the others havent).
The sad thing about this, everyone involved has been acting like a kid in this all. Casey, Miller, Pahoff and Schwab.....
Any other tickets around?
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We've received a reply from Greg to our group email of support. If you would like a copy of it, PM me.
Cheers :cheers,
MT.
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I like the bit where he says he knows some of us hhehehehe!
Yep Greg, i'm the hag from the social club you said i didn't know what i was talking about lol
I will forgive you if you get me the best group of cuties in the land this morning :-)
As for the others you know, hmmm lol
Over to you Ox :rollin