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Title: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2007, 03:00:30 AM
Surprise surprise no one wants to go near us.

Hawthorn  1.29 
Richmond  3.40 


Hawthorn Under 39.5 Pts  2.25 
Hawthorn Over 39.5 Pts  2.70 
Draw 51.00 
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts  4.00 
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts  13.00 


Hawthorn -19.5 Pts   1.90 
Richmond +19.5 Pts  1.90

Expert Tips:
The Age      1-14

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2007, 03:08:03 AM
'G, that's special

ON SUNDAY, 550 lucky children will get to play kick-to-kick on the MCG before the Hawthorn-Richmond clash as part of the MCG Rite of Passage event.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22065489%255E19771,00.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2007, 03:21:15 AM
Forward Scout: Richmond v Hawthorn
Thu 12 July, 2007
By Greg Lange
richmondfc.com.au

Lessons from last week

This week we have been addressing the ball-movement patterns we want to try to implement, as we could not have turned the ball over any more times in the first quarter last week. Also, we have been looking at the quick starts against us. Last week the Kangaroos had three goals before we got going.

Hawks’ forward line

Jarryd Roughead and Lance Franklin, in particular, are pretty hard guys to match up on, but our backline players have been putting a lot of time into how they are going to manage them. However, the Hawks will probably be missing a few of their mainstays in Mark Williams, Tim Boyle and Ben Dixon.

Does that make them vulnerable?

Everyone is vulnerable at times, but the Hawks have a very strong structure they like to stick to. It will be more about how the ball is going to get in there, as they have a good understanding with each other. That is what we will be concentrating on.

Will this game be a “lung buster”?

We like to pride ourselves on how we can run, and I would rate Hawthorn as the No.1 hardest-running side in the competition. So yes, I think we are going to be in for a game with a lot of kilometres being covered on the MCG.

Can we match it with the Hawks’ midfielders?

Absolutely. We feel as though our run has been there for most games. Obviously, it was not there last week, but we think our fitness is not a problem. This weekend will certainly test our guys out, but I am confident they are up to the task.

Our forward line?

Considering our lack of wins, which has been disappointing, I have rated our performance throughout the year as reasonably solid. Obviously, I’d like to see a few areas improve, but as a rule I have been happy with the way they have been performing. Their conversion has probably dropped away over the past few weeks but, again, it has generally been solid.

How does the Hawks’ defence operate?

They are not shy to make changes as soon as they see the game shifting. Against Sydney a week ago they were prepared to go head-to-head; they could not quite get over the line, but they certainly learned a lot from that contest. It was pretty much head-to-head against Collingwood as well, I think. There is no doubt they are more than prepared to switch game plans should it be required.

Final thoughts

The Hawks will be nice and wound up for the match after copping a bit of a touch-up from the Crows last weekend. However, we have put most of our energy into the form they had pre-Adelaide. I think it will come down to who can run harder.

Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=47125
Title: Note: MCG car park cut due to rain
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2007, 06:11:04 AM
Rain forces MCG car park cut
The Age

THE wet weather has prompted the Melbourne City Council to impose restrictions on parking in Yarra Park for today's Geelong-Collingwood clash at the MCG. The restrictions also will apply during tomorrow's Hawthorn-Richmond match. Fans have been advised to catch public transport.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2007, 08:45:54 PM
The token article ....

Hawks wary of bottom side
The Age
July 14, 2007 - 12:49PM

Hawthorn might be third on the AFL ladder and about to meet bottom side Richmond on Sunday, but Hawks coach Alistair Clarkson only needs to look back a season for a reality check.

"It was only 12 months ago we were in Richmond's position and Richmond were in our position - a much stronger win/loss ratio - and we were really struggling," Clarkson said.

"Richmond have been in pretty good form the last four or five weeks, despite not winning a lot of games.

"With (Matthew) Richardson, (Nathan) Brown and (Kayne) Pettifer as their forward structure - and now (Troy) Simmonds has come back into the side - they've been pretty influential in them being able to be a hell of a lot more competitive.

"We've got to approach every opponent in the same sort of manner.

"Ladder position can change around so, so quickly in AFL football and even sometimes, week by week, it can have an enormous impact on how you go, your fortunes from one week to the next."

Clarkson said the focus of the team after last week's disappointing loss to Adelaide had been to retrieve their freeflowing game.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Hawks-wary-of-bottom-side/2007/07/14/1183833817177.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
Great start. Kingy is getting under their skins ;D. Richo and kingy bang bang  :gotigers

Rich 2.0-12
Haw 0.0-0
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:19:40 PM
Edwards goal  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:23:23 PM
We're playing on at all costs. Jacko .... long point  :-\

Rich 3.1-19
Haw 1.0-6

Tuck - Mitchell (Mitchell hasn't had a touch yet)
Foley - Sewell
Thursty - Buddy
Richo - Gilham
Browny - Brown
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:26:14 PM
Schulz sneaks forward off the bench and marks and goals  :gotigers

Rich 4.1-25
Haw 1.0-6
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
LOL Richo. About time he got away with one. Petts goals  :gotigers

Rich 5.1-31
Haw 3.1-19
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 02:48:13 PM
Quarter time

Rich 5.1-31
Haw 4.2-26

Jackson, Kingy, Newy, Tivs, Tuck and a plenty of Tiges doing well. If we didn't make dumb simple turnovers by foot we'd be further in front. The Hawks had the better of the last 5 minutes.

Thursty doing the job on Franklin. Held him to just one handball that quarter.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:03:55 PM
We're getting smashed in the middle. Roughead is kiling Joel. 4 goals. Joel and Thursty now swapped.

Poor foot skills once again killing us.

Rich 5.2-32
Haw 8.4-52
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:07:09 PM
Geez about 10 handballs finally gets to Browny. Missed  :-\. We're handballing because we don't trust our footskills  :help

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:08:54 PM
Browny finally gets a goal after 5 straight to the Hawks. Survival mode at the moment. Richo benched.

Rich 6.2-38
Haw 8.4-52
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:12:24 PM
Schulz pulls one at out nowhere from the pocket :gotigers. 8 points down.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Browny gets another. Only 2 points down now. Hard work more than brilliance getting us back into it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:18:11 PM
Another 50m penalty. Hawks get one with less than a minute to go  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:22:10 PM
Hawks 5-0 in centre clearances.

Lucky to be just 9 points down in general play and skil level  :P

Rich  5.1  8.4-52
Haw  4.2  9.7-61
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:51:44 PM
Another dumb turnover gifts the Hawks the first goal :banghead

Mitchell's murdering us out of the centre.

Browny keeping us in this with his smarts. Tuck goals  :gotigers.  10 points down.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
Another Hawk goal after another missed target by foot by us. Joel back on Roughead and Roughead gets his 5th  ::).
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:57:27 PM
We've gave away another 50m  :banghead. 22 points down. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 03:58:56 PM
Sugar gets one back. Phew! 16 points down

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2007, 04:01:52 PM
Schulz turns the free around :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2007, 04:05:32 PM
Walls called Tambo lazy. Said Foley worked his guts out in that play while Tambo stoodin the same spot.

Franklin puts the Hawks up by 28.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 04:22:31 PM
Game over if it wasn't already. 35 points down.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 04:24:21 PM
Richo hits the post  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 04:29:25 PM
Petts goal. Back to 34
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: wayne on July 15, 2007, 04:40:04 PM
Tambling you're a f**king disgrace.

I don't give a poo about number 1 picks, number 2 picks. I want our team to win.

We need some huge changes, the players don't work hard enough, and I don't think Terry is the man, even if we aren't good enough, I want the first thing a coach to instill into a player is to run, run and work your guts off.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 15, 2007, 04:58:08 PM
we looked gr8 in the first 20 min and that was it! are we tanking? maybe

tambling had a bad day yes but he is not the concern.

when we play guys like sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan u know u will not win

when u play richo in the fwd 50, u know u cant win, richo has lost his mojo, cannot win a game off his own boot to save his life, yes he gives it all but he is useless for the team up fwd, there is no real future 4 him, give it up along with sugar and joel
jay, dost present enough and must be let go, KK is a better option than jay.

when jack , cleve are playing in reserves there is s problem

coburg had another good wim today.

i say terry is either 1/ a total f head, or 2/ we are tanking

i pick 2/ we are tanking

sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan , richo, joel, schulz should all be told that they will be dellisted, traded , or play their careers out in coburb. need to start from scratch next yr, forget reputations and yrs of service, these players plus others must all be gone

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 15, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
we looked gr8 in the first 20 min and that was it! are we tanking? maybe

We're not that good to be tanking. We are a bottom 4 team and have been for a fair while.

tambling had a bad day yes but he is not the concern.

Maybe, but its now starting to reach the problematic stage. He needs to start to do something for his own sake and his own career- I agree that we have bigger problems though.

when we play guys like sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan u know u will not win

100% spot on correct. As long as these guys make up our 22 we will never play finals.

when u play richo in the fwd 50, u know u cant win, richo has lost his mojo, cannot win a game off his own boot to save his life, yes he gives it all but he is useless for the team up fwd, there is no real future 4 him, give it up along with sugar and joel

Joel Bowden should be traded at the end of the year, he has some value nows the time.

jay, dost present enough and must be let go, KK is a better option than jay.

Schulz should also be traded, Kingsley should be delisted.

when jack , cleve are playing in reserves there is s problem

Yep

coburg had another good wim today.

i say terry is either 1/ a total f head, or 2/ we are tanking

i pick 2/ we are tanking

sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan , richo, joel, schulz should all be told that they will be dellisted, traded , or play their careers out in coburb.

Thats the correct course of action, but our club hasnt got the balls to clear players like Richo and Bowden- and as long as that remains the case, we will continue to be bad coz the players we need to bring wont ever come to the club because we dont have the picks to get them in the draft

need to start from scratch next yr, forget reputations and yrs of service, these players plus others must all be gone

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 05:12:57 PM
I reckon Tony Shaws comments on 3aw are spot on.
We have gone backwards, There has been no improvement in 3 years.
IF , anyone can see the improvement,please share your views as the entire football community would like to know.

can just see the ins next week, P. Bowden, Kingsley and Krak  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 15, 2007, 05:19:39 PM
I reckon Tony Shaws comments on 3aw are spot on.
We have gone backwards, There has been no improvement in 3 years.
IF , anyone can see the improvement,please share your views as the entire football community would like to know.

can just see the ins next week, P. Bowden, Kingsley and Krak  ::)

stuff off jackstar, narrow minded sheep

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 05:21:14 PM
xXx.
Tell me where the improvement is . thats  all I ask
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 05:22:32 PM

stuff off jackstar, narrow minded sheep



great post  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 15, 2007, 05:31:15 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 05:35:16 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.

Great post Ramps :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 05:37:22 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.

Great post Ramps :thumbsup

Great post :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.

Great post Ramps :thumbsup

Great post :thumbsup

Hey 1965, can you tell me where the improvement is ?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 05:47:45 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.

Great post Ramps :thumbsup

Great post :thumbsup

Hey 1965, can you tell me where the improvement is ?

We got rid of at least one idiot support staff member last year.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 15, 2007, 05:49:02 PM
ive never felt so disconsolate in a long time, not even after we lost bad against Geelong, we are years away, and whilst ive been against bloodletting and all the rest but our clubs administration needs to take control back of the footy club NOW!

Where are our recruits since 2004

Deledio- Injured- will be a good player but gets tagged out of games easily
Tambling- Has all the tools but really struggling
Meyer- see Tambling
Pattison- Tries hard, thats about it
Polo- Tries hard- a goer- thats about it
McGuane- they rate him at Punt Rd, I cant see it
Oakley Nicholls- disposal and decision making concerns
Hughes- has all the tools but doesnt use them all the time throughout a game
Casseley- Injured unseen
White- People rate him, hes a squad player at best for mine
Riewoldt- Knows how to play but seems a 3rd tall who needs to find a yard as well
Edwards- Ok pick for the pick taken- I dont have a problem here
Polak- Played well, but plays loose man in defence. So who knows
Conners- Unseen
Collins- Unseen
Petersen- Unseen.

If I missed anybody i apologise, but if i worked at Richmond and I was the CEO and I asked my recruiting department to show me a rundown of picks since nov 2004 and this is what they produced- id sack them all.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
Add P. Bowden, M Grahram and my favorite waste of a draft pick of all time Kent Kingsley
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 06:01:37 PM
Edwards, Foley and Lids are the future
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 15, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
Well Id actually forgotten Kingsley Bowden and Graham...just adds to the woeful performance in recruiting. Just disgraceful. I really hope that the President and the CEO go back to punt rd tonight and just bring out the dont come monday notices.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: wayne on July 15, 2007, 06:06:49 PM

Thats the correct course of action, but our club hasnt got the balls to clear players like Richo and Bowden- and as long as that remains the case, we will continue to be bad coz the players we need to bring wont ever come to the club because we dont have the picks to get them in the draft

need to start from scratch next yr, forget reputations and yrs of service, these players plus others must all be gone

 :thumbsup


I think you're right Ramps.

Look at St Kilda, Everitt, Lockett, Hall.... They got rid of these players and actually improved. Port lost Stevens for nothing, but stood firm and didn't let him dictate terms.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 06:09:34 PM
Alot of people are hurting and the truth hurts alot. If I was steve wright id sack everyone whod been involved in recruiting in the last 3 years.

Great post Ramps :thumbsup

Great post :thumbsup

Hey 1965, can you tell me where the improvement is ?

We got rid of at least one idiot support staff member last year.

 :cheers

Last years forward coach Brian Taylor is now at Collingwood.
Ruck coach Steve Alessio got the flick
And David Wheedon is at Geelong.
Geelong and Collingwood will play finals. who are the idiots.?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 15, 2007, 06:10:57 PM
The game was lost in November 2004 when we selected badly at the only real opportunity we had to right the sinking ship. We picked the wrong players. And we continued to pick wrongly in 2005 and 2006.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Tigermonk on July 15, 2007, 06:12:15 PM
 :bow :bow :bow :bow thankyou the tiger tankers my second biggest win on a hawthorn vs tanker tigers game in 2 seasons
anyone who never took my advise on this bet here's looking at you  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin what a laughing stock of a club  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Tigermonk on July 15, 2007, 06:16:42 PM
we looked gr8 in the first 20 min and that was it! are we tanking? maybe

tambling had a bad day yes but he is not the concern.

when we play guys like sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan u know u will not win

when u play richo in the fwd 50, u know u cant win, richo has lost his mojo, cannot win a game off his own boot to save his life, yes he gives it all but he is useless for the team up fwd, there is no real future 4 him, give it up along with sugar and joel
jay, dost present enough and must be let go, KK is a better option than jay.

when jack , cleve are playing in reserves there is s problem

coburg had another good wim today.

i say terry is either 1/ a total f head, or 2/ we are tanking

i pick 2/ we are tanking

sugar, tiv, tuck,hyde,  howat, hartigan , richo, joel, schulz should all be told that they will be dellisted, traded , or play their careers out in coburb. need to start from scratch next yr, forget reputations and yrs of service, these players plus others must all be gone



prey carlton win another game or its all for nothing & l come out laughing this year like last year
hope you took my advise
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: DallasCrane on July 15, 2007, 06:34:53 PM
Our club was gutted in the second half today. It's no wonder, it's been a shocking season for the boys. It's the first time they've dropped their heads this year despite all the frustration.

What annoys me is the lack of leadership shown by the older players. Kane Johnson was again the main offender, Richo let himself and the team down with his petulant display and Joel was just, well Joel.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
AFL site Game Rankings

J.Bowden           150
Newman             144
Mitchell               131
King                   115
Franklin              112
Roughead           109
Johnson             107
Polak                 106
Lewis                 101
Guerra               100
Crawford             99
McGlynn              95
Tuck                    92
Raines                 90
Foley                   89
Smith                   89
N.Brown               88
Jackson               83
Hodge                  80
Croad                  78
Howat                  78
Tivendale             78
Ladson                78
C.Brown              75
Birchall                71
Bateman              68
Edwards              67
Hyde                   65
Campbell             61
Pettifer                60
Taylor                 60
Gilham                55
Young                 50
Schulz                 50
Ellis                     50
Sewell                 42
Thursfield            41
Thorp                  40
Pattison               39
Dixon                  37
Richardson          32
Tambling             15
Hartigan              -6
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 15, 2007, 07:44:50 PM
Hartigan -6 ?  Whats the go there ?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: tigersalive on July 15, 2007, 07:52:06 PM
Hartigan -6 ?  Whats the go there ?

Probably means most of his possessions were clangers and he gave away free kicks therefore sending his ranking backwards.  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: wayne on July 15, 2007, 08:06:54 PM
Hartigan -6 ?  Whats the go there ?
Way to show you belong in the seniors Harts.

You got some bulk why didn't you throw it around.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mjs on July 15, 2007, 09:43:23 PM
We have gone backwards, There has been no improvement in 3 years.
IF , anyone can see the improvement,please share your views as the entire football community would like to know.



Unfortunately, and to everyone who follows the Tigers, this is undeniable.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 15, 2007, 09:47:22 PM
We have gone backwards, There has been no improvement in 3 years.
IF , anyone can see the improvement,please share your views as the entire football community would like to know.



None absolutely NONE ??? There has been no improvement? Not one player has improved in the last 3 years

Foley hasn't improved?

Pattison hasn't improved?

Raines hasn't improved?

Pettifer hasn't improved?

None of the above - NONE ???

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mjs on July 15, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
WP

I don't mean to upset you but to take out four players and claim that the club has improved is not addressing the reality.

We have further to go as a club today that we did 3 years ago - it's unarguable in my opinion. We are not competitive.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 09:53:01 PM

Last years forward coach Brian Taylor is now at Collingwood.
Ruck coach Steve Alessio got the flick
And David Wheedon is at Geelong.
Geelong and Collingwood will play finals. who are the idiots.?

So BT is the reason Collingwood are OK this year and the Doc has transformed the Cats into ladder leaders.

Silly me, why didn't I see that.


Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 15, 2007, 10:09:17 PM
WP

I don't mean to upset you but to take out four players and claim that the club has improved is not addressing the reality.

We have further to go as a club today that we did 3 years ago - it's unarguable in my opinion. We are not competitive.

mjs,

you certainly will not upset me :thumbsup We are all entitled to our opinions

The point I was trying to make was that the statement said there has been NO improvement in the last 3 years. NONE.

I take that to mean that not one player on our list has improved, that there is not one positive thing that has happened to our club in the last 3 years. That is clearly not correct from where I sit.

Now I am sorry but I find it insulting to those players (and I named 4 of them) who have clearly shown great improvement especially the bloke who wears number 41.

As for not being competitive - take out the Geelong, Port and now this Hawthorn game and I think we have been very competitive. Yes we have not won but I think we have been very competitive. How many 100 point losses have we had this year compared to last, how many 10 goal losses?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 15, 2007, 10:15:50 PM
xXx.
Tell me where the improvement is . thats  all I ask

 u r supposed to be a know all, if you cant see where we have improved(and dont look at ladder position) then u have no idea about footy and are all talk
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 10:20:08 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mjs on July 15, 2007, 10:28:10 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?



Why would that be justified?

I don't recall him attacking anybody personally and why would you want this site to start banning people - is that the sort of forum you want?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 10:29:17 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?



Why would that be justified?

I don't recall him attacking anybody personally and why would you want this site to start banning people - is that the sort of forum you want?

Of course not.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 15, 2007, 10:29:52 PM
Hartigan -6 ?  Whats the go there ?

I believe his only contribution was giving away a free kick.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mjs on July 15, 2007, 10:31:02 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?





Why would that be justified?

I don't recall him attacking anybody personally and why would you want this site to start banning people - is that the sort of forum you want?

Of course not.



Good to hear that - and goodnight from me
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 15, 2007, 10:54:25 PM
I find it curious that the kids are copping it in the neck for today's performance.

Anyone else care to point out why the opponents of our top 3 possession getters were the reason the Hawks got on top initially before the last quarter and a half blowout. Mitchell, Crawford and Roughead were the best 3 players on the ground and absolutely smashed us. As much as Buddy came home like a train with 4 goals the game was over by then. If our senior players can't be accountable for their direct opponent and have no goalscoring or goal assist influence then what other result did we expect. Today's game once again showed we lack quality onballers to win a game where it counts - in the middle.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Tigermonk on July 15, 2007, 11:07:03 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?


this aint the house of commons Mr Speaker  ;D
Who cares what other forums do
if the man is getting to you skip his posts
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 15, 2007, 11:12:06 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?


this aint the house of commons Mr Speaker  ;D
Who cares what other forums do
if the man is getting to you skip his posts


excellent advice

but can I do it?

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Tigermonk on July 15, 2007, 11:16:52 PM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?


this aint the house of commons Mr Speaker  ;D
Who cares what other forums do
if the man is getting to you skip his posts


excellent advice

but can I do it?



yeah  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ox on July 16, 2007, 12:12:16 AM

WP

Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

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With that attitude you should go back to where you speak of.

Do you call the water nazis if your neighbour waters the garden?

You should just post your outdated views on the game and hope nobody recognises the senility.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: 1965 on July 16, 2007, 07:43:13 AM

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Other unmentionable moderators on other unmentionable forums would have banned Jackoff a long time ago.

Have you considered this as an option?



With that attitude you should go back to where you speak of.

Do you call the water nazis if your neighbour waters the garden?

You should just post your outdated views on the game and hope nobody recognises the senility.

The light of day brings a (self-induced) headache and an apology.

No more calls for bannings (not even annoying know-it-alls)

Jackstar may even be right, we may need to look at the coaching position at the end of the year.

Is it time to bring one of our back; Chris Bond or Ashley Prescott maybe??

and it's time for a massive player cleanout, starting with Krak and Tambling.

Next year will be hard, a bottom four finish beckons for us again.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Ramps on July 16, 2007, 07:54:35 AM
Im supportive of a Chris Bond led revival.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 16, 2007, 08:42:09 AM

Last years forward coach Brian Taylor is now at Collingwood.
Ruck coach Steve Alessio got the flick
And David Wheedon is at Geelong.
Geelong and Collingwood will play finals. who are the idiots.?

So BT is the reason Collingwood are OK this year and the Doc has transformed the Cats into ladder leaders.

Silly me, why didn't I see that.




1965, dont listen to jacstars fos comments

i can prove jackstar is fos!

1/ wheedon is the bloke that told the world that limbach is the hardest worker at tigerland and will be better than matthew lloyd!!! yepo i was there when he said it, said limbach even trained harder and worked harder on ghis gae than what lloyd did as a up and comer at bomberland when he was there. said limbach was a better mark, better kick and will be a better player than lloyd..........what a gr8 judge of chareacter wheden was!!!!

2/  how can knobhead jack claim brian taylor is an assistant coach at the pies. taylor only 3 weeks ago was asked to just help out at the skunks with goal kicking. he is no fwd line coach, had nothing to do with a/ the way the pies started the yr off, b/ the lucky games the pies have won, c/ the bloody draw the pies get and mainly d/ taylor has absolutely nothing to do with the teams stategies and fwd line structures!!!!

taylor was asked 3 weks ago, prob as a volunteer, to assist some players just with goal kicking.

jack stop talking shi t and if steve alessio is so gr8 at what he did why isnt he working elsewhere now, cos i have no idea if he is.

and btw, i reckon monky has done a gr8 job, in a yr where we have had no effin ruckmen, look at how much patto has improved !!

jackstar dig a hole and role in it!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 16, 2007, 10:32:44 AM
can tell you that I have watched the pies train probably 8-10 times this year and guess what. BT was there every time ;)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 16, 2007, 10:57:27 AM
can tell you that I have watched the pies train probably 8-10 times this year and guess what. BT was there every time ;)

u know where u can shove ur winks, cos i know that he has only been there in a coaching capacity for only 3 weeks!

mt watches nearly every tiger training session , i guess that makes mt an assistant coach too!  ;)

for someone who supposedly works for essendon, u sure get around, u at every single clubs training sessions

jack, u were sacked cos u talk shi t! and were no good at ur job!

good men never ever get sacked
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: DallasCrane on July 16, 2007, 12:09:32 PM
good men never ever get sacked

Don't they, I suppose the 600 workers who are getting laid off at Ford, down your way, are a bunch of ar$eholes are they?
KB is a good man and he got sacked. Geish seemed like a nice bloke, he got sacked.

X if you are gonna accuse people of talking schit then it would help if you didn't do the same yourself!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: {X} on July 16, 2007, 12:15:30 PM
u took my sentence way out of context

top notch workers in their jobs dont get sacked.

dont bring sh it like ford into it. thats totally different. thats high corporate cost cutting bs, nothing to do with whjat i am on about

kb a good man , dont think so, kb a good coach no way!

if u are the best of teh best and the best at what u do u will never get sacked! full stop 

never saw allan jeans get sacked when he was the best coach

why has kevin sheedy lasted so long

mchale

why was brian naylor never ever sacked as a news reader

because if ur the best at what u do u will never get sacked!
full stop


any of these ford workers btw, if tehy are the best at what they do, they will find work elsewhere

if tehy cruise through what they do, join the dole q
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 16, 2007, 01:00:42 PM
mt watches nearly every tiger training session , i guess that makes mt an assistant coach too!  ;)
Gawd I hope not. I don't want to be blamed for this year  ;D.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: DallasCrane on July 16, 2007, 03:00:09 PM
u took my sentence way out of context

top notch workers in their jobs dont get sacked.


Did I? Was Jackstar a high ranking official at rfc was he? He must've been if you have mentioned him in the same breath as Jeans, Sheedy, McHale and so on.
Grant Thomas has a pretty good coaching record but he got sacked.

My point is X, is that it doesn't matter how good you are at your job, you are always a danger of being sacked, especially if you are the type to open your mouth and challenge the status quo.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 16, 2007, 03:11:27 PM
As much as there's this fascination with another poster's employment history it is against the site's guidelines to get so personal. 

Back to the topic of yesterday's game please otherwise drop it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Passionfruit on July 16, 2007, 06:06:28 PM
can tell you that I have watched the pies train probably 8-10 times this year and guess what. BT was there every time ;)

u know where u can shove ur winks, cos i know that he has only been there in a coaching capacity for only 3 weeks!

mt watches nearly every tiger training session , i guess that makes mt an assistant coach too!  ;)

for someone who supposedly works for essendon, u sure get around, u at every single clubs training sessions

jack, u were sacked cos u talk shi t! and were no good at ur job!

good men never ever get sacked


Get this straight, I WALKED !
Secondly , I do go to every clubs training sessions, and see that Collingwood train on punt road and get an easy car park, I go and watch there drills as there drills are extremely good, not the under 13, s stuff that the Tiges do. I actually sat with Mightytiges at a Richmond session and he even agreed that dont train to flash. They actually practise kicking the ball high in there , lol

And you can see why there inside forward 50 work is poor as they all go for the same ball at training, thus its happens in a game and the forwards dont spread.
I actually watched the Bulldogs train when Wallace was coaching them and has changed his training drills dramatically.

You want to watch a good side train. go and watch the Kangas!
Everybody was reday to sack Ladley, he is miles away of a lot of coaches in his drills, if you dont beleive, go and have a look for yourself and stop bagging me!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: Mopsy on July 17, 2007, 12:47:44 PM
Wayne Schwas was questioning Richmonds training during the broadcast on MMM of the game. He wondered whether they practised their game skills or just trained!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn match thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 17, 2007, 06:13:05 PM
Wayne Schwas was questioning Richmonds training during the broadcast on MMM of the game. He wondered whether they practised their game skills or just trained!
Richmond training is skill based but rarely the drills are done under pressure (i.e. another player putting pressure on the kicker). It's disjointed too IMO. We should finish off our work when doing our rebounding drills rather than just going back and forth the length of the ground. That's not to say I think Terry's tactics should be scrapped but he needs to "tweak" it over summer. We need to straighten up and use less handball. That of course means we need Tigers with good footskills and who can gut-run. If Terry can change over a preseason (unlike Spud) then he'll save his career.

Collingwood training, from the couple of time I've seen it, is game based. Malthouse runs the show and plays the role of umpire and game-controller in scratch matches. I'm surprised they fork out some much $$$ on assistants lol. Very simple gameplan (get it out wide from defence then cut inside to the corridor and go long to Rocca and Cloke) which means even dumb players can follow it lol but whether it stacks up come finals time with their list I don't believe so. Same with Laidley and the Roos.