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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on August 05, 2007, 10:32:05 PM
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I was sitting down at the hell hole yesterday with some friends and we were discussing our season from hell and we then got on to the subject of our list.
All I've read and heard from the so called experts over the past few weeks is how bad our list supposedly is. I've also read from posters here about how bad the list is.
For me at least there were some promising signs yesterday despite the result. And if people could look past their fixation with bagging Wallace, Miller and everything else you may have noticed it too.
First up the average age of our team yesterday was 23.5 and that is because we had 3 players aged 29, one aged 28 and of course Richo at 32. Take them out and the average of our team yesterday was 21 and that included 2 blokes aged 25.
Coupled with the ages we had 12 blokes who had played less than 60 games. Take out Lids and we had 11 who had played under 50 games.
We've cried out for the kids to be played guess what... they are being played.
If anyone noticed (and I doubt very much the TV would have bothered with it) but during the 2nd & 3rd quarters our back line was made up of 5 blokes 23 or under. That people was our future on display and guess what they did a super job.
Why? Because the Cats didn't get their goals from their forwards the came from the mid-field and S Johnson (who had Newman stumped :-\). Ablett. N, was beaten easisly by McGuane, Mooney was beaten (don't want to gloat but thrashed would be more apt) by Thursfield.
Tambling was given a more defensive role in the 2nd half and his efforts were rewarded. It was great to see him put in the 2nd & 3rd efforts in the chasing and tackling department. It's a slow process but the signs are there that he will be a player.
Brett Deledio showed great leadership yesterday - that hand is not right but he showed up and played a good solid game. Hell Geelong obviously rate him because they started Ding-a-Ling on him.
What about Foley - how good is he going to be? I'd say pretty good because Ding-a-Ling got moved onto him
Gus Graham - sure alot to learn but the improvement in this kid in the last 18 months is extraordinary
Daniel Connors - anyone out there not impressed with what they've seen so far ???
Add the other kids running around at Coburg - eg Clingan things aren't that grim.
Shane Edwards, Jack Reiwoldt, Jake King - improving every week - what more do we want.
From where I am sitting there is lot ot look forward to with more kids onthe way :thumbsup
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:clapping :bow
Good on you WP.
Spot on the money.
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The trouble with a post like that, is you go to so much effort and it's like talking to a brick wall. Ppl will just see what they wanna see!
Well said and I agree with everything :thumbsup
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we have said it all along wp, the kids are not the problem
its the senior group
whats the point in playing seniors that offer nothing, no skill, nio leadership, no inspiration
if terry had half a clue , from rnd 12 onwards he would have gone full on youth and let richo, tiv, joel, sugar and tuck all pl;ay the yr out in coburg
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if terry had half a clue , from rnd 12 onwards he would have gone full on youth and let richo, tiv, joel, sugar and tuck all pl;ay the yr out in coburg
And then you'd be screaming because we'd be losing by 300 points every week. You can't have it both ways. TW plays a team where over 50% of the players have played less than 50 games and you bag him for:
A. not being able to coach
B. not playing kids.
This team has played all year with their number 1 ruck being a 21 year old kid in his 3rd year and who's been in the centre with him...among others Foley, Tambling, Deledio, Edwards, King et al...all with less than 60 games experience.
TW has been doing exactly what posters have been screaming out for for years...playing a heap of kids. Everyone puts the Hawks up as benchmarks....but until this years they were getting pumped playing their kids, just like we are now. It wasn't long ago that Luke Hodge was faring very badly in comparison with Judd and Ball. Ah footy supporters...short term memories.
Yes let's sack Wallace and bring in Sheedy whose record over the last 3 years is likely to see Essendon finish in the bottom 4 for the third year running if they play like they did yesterday and of course their list is SOOOOO much better than ours...but don't let facts interfere with a 'feel good' story.
Rant finished.
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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Otherwise, good points BG25 :thumbsup :rollin
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Yep Fwoy...you just reminded me why I don't post that often :lol :lol
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if terry had half a clue , from rnd 12 onwards he would have gone full on youth and let richo, tiv, joel, sugar and tuck all pl;ay the yr out in coburg
And then you'd be screaming because we'd be losing by 300 points every week. You can't have it both ways. TW plays a team where over 50% of the players have played less than 50 games and you bag him for:
A. not being able to coach
B. not playing kids.
This team has played all year with their number 1 ruck being a 21 year old kid in his 3rd year and who's been in the centre with him...among others Foley, Tambling, Deledio, Edwards, King et al...all with less than 60 games experience.
TW has been doing exactly what posters have been screaming out for for years...playing a heap of kids. Everyone puts the Hawks up as benchmarks....but until this years they were getting pumped playing their kids, just like we are now. It wasn't long ago that Luke Hodge was faring very badly in comparison with Judd and Ball. Ah footy supporters...short term memories.
Yes let's sack Wallace and bring in Sheedy whose record over the last 3 years is likely to see Essendon finish in the bottom 4 for the third year running if they play like they did yesterday and of course their list is SOOOOO much better than ours...but don't let facts interfere with a 'feel good' story.
Rant finished.
wrong
we would not be screaming cos we would all know we are in full on rebuilding mode
never hurt the saints!
we are getting thrashed anyway so whats ur point, and u will find teh reason we are getting thumped is not the kids, its the senior mob!
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Otherwise, good points BG25 :thumbsup :rollin
ever looked in the mirror lately?
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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Otherwise, good points BG25 :thumbsup :rollin
Yep Fwoy...you just reminded me why I don't post that often :lol :lol
what they said!!! :clapping
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ever looked in the mirror lately?
No, but I saw your webcam earlier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs)
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he he he ... this is hilarious :lol
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you see the mistakes them kids are making who is teaching them to make them decisions
duh must be the senior players & the coaches :clapping
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ever looked in the mirror lately?
No, but I saw your webcam earlier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs)
someone shoot that german his nuts
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ever looked in the mirror lately?
No, but I saw your webcam earlier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs)
nice try, but i dont webcam ! u lose
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he looked to much of a whitey anyway ex & no gangster in him lol ;D :cheers big ears
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Good to see you bg25. :thumbsup
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ever looked in the mirror lately?
No, but I saw your webcam earlier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs)
LOL. Pearler Fwoy. :thumbsup
GO TIGES!!!
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Many were screaming for Wallace to play the kids three years ago yet Terry persisted with seasoned duds far longer than he should have.
Of course he is playing youngsters now.
Reactionary rather than visionary IMO and he likely will not be there to enjoy their successes, if indeed they ever have any.
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Over the last 3 years there has been a gradual increase in the amount of kids/younger players in the side..
You can't say that they are only now playing the kids...
This view many people have that we are only playing kids this year is rubbish...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs)
Love the bit when he screams "I don't need help and support! I don't need help and support!". You need help and support kid :rollin
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Many were screaming for Wallace to play the kids three years ago yet Terry persisted with seasoned duds far longer than he should have.
Of course he is playing youngsters now.
Reactionary rather than visionary IMO and he likely will not be there to enjoy their successes, if indeed they ever have any.
Can I point out that a lot of the kids coming in now have earnt their spots which is probably why Terry's delayed playing them (and also why we've brought in guys like Graham and Kingsley for one-off seasons - so the kids would have a veteran to displace). They've spent at least a dozen games or so (& some guys a whole season or two) at Coburg developing and once in the seniors they're not going to take it for granted.
I remember Lids & Bling being gifted jerseys in their first year and if you look back - it probably may have been better to have them learn the craft in the 2s away from the spotlight and earn their spots. I don't think Wallace is as dumb as he looks.
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Hall (hip - gone), Knobel (ankle - gone), Casserly (injuries), Petersen (OP) and Clingan (rookie) are the only 5 Tigers not to play this year. Cass will make his debut sometime in the next 4 weeks to make it 38 players used this year. Everyone who is on our list and not injured has played games.
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Bumper 'd' bump :cheers
I started this last week because I thought our kids stood up down at the Hell Hole (aka Skilled Stadium Geelong :chuck)
Well our kids stood up again on Friday night - hopefully now some mopre people can see what I keep seeing - things aren't as grim as people think
:gotigers :gotigers
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Bumper 'd' bump :cheers
I started this last week because I thought our kids stood up down at the Hell Hole (aka Skilled Stadium Geelong :chuck)
Well our kids stood up again on Friday night - hopefully now some more people can see what I keep seeing - things aren't as grim as people think
:gotigers :gotigers
Well said WP. Keep the faith :thumbsup. It makes it a hell of a lot easier for the cubs too when everyone in the team is doing their job and the cubs can just focus on playing their own game within the team structure because finally there is a team structure.