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Title: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 17, 2007, 01:52:43 PM
SUNDAY, 23 SEPTEMBER, 2007

SENIORS: GRAND FINAL – MC Labour Park, Carlton

Coburg Tigers v Geelong - 2.15pm

TV broadcast: ABC

Radio broadcast: 3XX 1611 AM, 3SER 97.7 FM, K-Rock

Internet broadcast: 3XX - www.doublex.com.au (http://www.doublex.com.au), 3SER - www.3ser.org.au (http://www.3ser.org.ay)


RESERVES: GRAND FINAL – MC Labour Park, Carlton

Coburg Tigers v Port Melbourne - 11.00am


ADMISSION OF PATRONS

Gates will be opened at 9.30am at MC Labour Park on Sunday 23 September, 2007.

ADMISSION PRICES

Grand Final
Adults: $ 20.00
Concession/Pensioner: $ 15.00
Children (under 15): Free thanks to TRUenergy
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: bluey_21 on September 17, 2007, 03:33:18 PM
 :gotigers

Will be there for sure  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: torch on September 17, 2007, 03:57:29 PM
Go Coburg !!!
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 18, 2007, 05:15:32 PM
Updated Sunday's Arrangements

Gates 1 and 6 will open at 10:30am, Gate 5 at 11:30am

Also the teams will get one training session on MC Labour Park before the day.

Coburg Tigers: Tomorrow(Wednesday) at 5:30pm

Title: We'll give it 'a red-hot crack': Riewoldt (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on September 19, 2007, 01:21:33 PM
We'll give it 'a red-hot crack': Riewoldt
9:34 AM Wed 19 September, 2007
for richmondfc.com.au

EXCITING young Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt says the Geelong VFL team he will be facing in the grand final this weekend as part of the Coburg Tigers is “a formidable outfit”.

But he reckons the rejuvenated and in-form Tigers’ outfit is just the side for the job.

“This is what the VFL guys and the AFL guys at our club who have been playing VFL have been playing for all season,” Riewoldt said.

“At the moment we are playing some of the best footy we have played all year and blokes are really gelling together over the finals series and we’ll give it a red hot crack.”

It’s no wonder Riewoldt enters the big game with such confidence. After being held goalless in the Tigers’ second qualifying final against Geelong three weeks ago, he bounced back with four-goal bags against Port Melbourne and Williamstown.

“My game has revolved around the back line and the midfield playing well,” he said.

“The delivery I am getting is some of the best delivery I have had all year, so a lot of my success can be credited to a very strong midfield.”

This weekend’s VFL grand final will top off an impressive debut season at Punt Road for the Tasmanian in which he managed to clock up eight AFL games.

The confident 18-year-old says the club’s youthful and enthusiastic environment is one of the major reasons he has been able to successfully make the transition from VFL side Tasmania, where he played last season, to Coburg.

As for his transition from VFL to AFL football, Riewoldt highlights the efforts of assistant coach Jade Rawlings and team mate Matthew Richardson.

“Jade Rawlings and Matthew they have been the two big keys in my ‘coming of age’, as I like to call it, as a footballer.

“Jade has been there for me the last two years and whenever I have needed his help,” Riewoldt said.

“Then, on the ground, there is no better mentor for a tall forward to have than Matthew Richardson.

“He is pretty dirty on me if I do not fly for the ball and just really wants me to get in there and have a crack, and he’s always in my ear about giving it 100 per cent.”

With a VFL grand final just days away Riewoldt says he is eager to finish the year off on a high with Coburg, then quickly turn his attention to a bigger and better season with Richmond next year.

“I really want to build on my start to my career with Richmond next year, and if not play double the amount of games I played this year, play all 22 games and cement my spot in the side,” he said. 

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=51336
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Beren on September 19, 2007, 01:31:27 PM
Gotta love this kid!
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 19, 2007, 06:47:57 PM
It looked as though Cass was in casuals (green top) at Coburg training tonight walking around the boundary with Matty White (who was in Coburg kit). Hard to recognise them in red and navy blue  :-\. McGuane also didn't train with the main group. He just did some stretching around the Heatley Stand goals. The rest of the Richmond boys who played against Willy trained fully. Very vocal and a good vibe. So I don't think there'll be any changes to the senior Coburg side. I didn't notice Harts either but I was watching the senior Coburg group rather than the ressies.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 19, 2007, 06:52:09 PM
Gotta love this kid!
Ditto. Great that cubs like Jack and Connors exude confidence  :thumbsup.

Quote
“The delivery I am getting is some of the best delivery I have had all year, so a lot of my success can be credited to a very strong midfield.”
So much for Richmond's midfield eh Jack  :lol
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 19, 2007, 09:09:04 PM
VFL Show Grand final special on SEN now.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: rogerd3 on September 19, 2007, 09:20:06 PM
yeh JR's gonna be a beauty. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 19, 2007, 09:33:33 PM
Confirmed by Phil Cleary on ABC and Schwarz on SEN tonight that Andy Collins is off to West Adelaide.
Title: Who is going Sunday?
Post by: one-eyed on September 20, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
Who is going Sunday to the Granny?
Title: Coburg selected teams
Post by: one-eyed on September 20, 2007, 06:22:44 PM
Coburg Seniors

B:  Luke McGuane Jarrod Silvester Matt White
HB: Nat Caruso     Kelvin Moore        Travis Casserly
C:  Daniel Jackson    Nick Carnell    Andrew Krakouer
HF: Patrick Bowden    Jack Riewoldt     Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls
F:   Daniel Connors     Jay Schulz      Logan Hill
R:  Travis Ronaldson    Alister Neville Paul    Shelton

Int (From): Joe Gazzo, Tom Simpson, Fort Caruso, Shaun Huy, Cleve Hughes, Myles Sewell, Micheal Farrelly, Andrew Horne


Reserves Squad

Ryan Anderson   Glen Carrick    Brad Clifton   Tasman Clingan
Cathal Corr    Paul Currie    Ramez Dagher    Jake De Sousa
Micheal Farrelly    Steven Foster    Brent Hartigan    Beau Hopkins
Cleve Hughes    Shaun Huy    James Keogh     Nick Liddle
Nick Lynch     Christian McErlain    Matthew Morelli    Jonathan Mullins
Damien Rayson    Josh Riddle     Sam Robertson      Myles Sewell
Robert Trajkovski    Matthew Vasilevski
   
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 20, 2007, 06:25:09 PM
Sunday 23rd September, 2007 - MC Labour Park (Princes Park), Carlton

Seniors
Coburg Vs. Geelong
2.15pm
Tv Coverage On ABC
Radio Coverage On 1611am Double X From 12.00pm
97.7FM 3SER Casey Radio

Reserves
Coburg Vs. Port Melbourne
11.00am
Radio Coverage On 97.7FM 3SER Casey Radio From 11.00am

Admission Of Patrons
Gates will be opened at 10.30am

Admission Prices
Adults: $ 20.00
Concession/Pensioner: $ 15.00
Children (under 15): Free thanks to TRUenergy


Aftermatch Details

Win, Lose or Draw we would like to see you all back at ABD Group Stadium on Sunday night.

Food & Drink will be available outside from 6:30pm

Social Club facilities will open at 8pm

Player presentations will be after this time.

http://coburgtigers.com.au/
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: mightytiges on September 20, 2007, 06:49:33 PM
Looks like Cleve has been dropped for the Seniors Grand Final with Cass in (if he plays). He along with Sewell, Farrelly and Huy and named in both sides.

Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers

Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 20, 2007, 07:31:08 PM
Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers



Full credit to Hart's for putting his hand up a week out from the end of the AFL season and saying I want to play finals for Coburg.  :clapping
Title: Re: Who is going Sunday?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 20, 2007, 07:35:20 PM
Who is going Sunday to the Granny?

Will be there :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: tigersalive on September 20, 2007, 08:40:07 PM
Having BBQ with the family Sunday but will be keeping a close eye.  ;)  And have the VCR recording to watch Sunday night.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: tigersalive on September 20, 2007, 08:44:30 PM
Looks like Cleve has been dropped for the Seniors Grand Final with Cass in (if he plays). He along with Sewell, Farrelly and Huy and named in both sides.

Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers

So we would rather go in with 11 RFC players than 12 with Cleve.

Puts the writing on the wall for him in no uncertain terms.  :shh



Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers



Full credit to Hart's for putting his hand up a week out from the end of the AFL season and saying I want to play finals for Coburg.  :clapping

I'm a bit confused by that WP, why is that clappable?  He should be playing for Coburg, why wouldnt he? Am I missing something?

Well done Tas on the recovery to make it back in time.  :clapping
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: mightytiges on September 20, 2007, 09:23:04 PM
So we would rather go in with 11 RFC players than 12 with Cleve.

Puts the writing on the wall for him in no uncertain terms.  :shh
Cass is no certainty of playing so Cleve could still play but Cleve was disappointing last week. McRae said he didn't lead-up enough playing at CHF.

Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers



Full credit to Hart's for putting his hand up a week out from the end of the AFL season and saying I want to play finals for Coburg.  :clapping

I'm a bit confused by that WP, why is that clappable?  He should be playing for Coburg, why wouldnt he? Am I missing something?

Well done Tas on the recovery to make it back in time.  :clapping
Harts was in the same boat as Tas. He just made it back in time from injury (Harts had a broken foot).
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: tigersalive on September 20, 2007, 10:05:44 PM
So we would rather go in with 11 RFC players than 12 with Cleve.

Puts the writing on the wall for him in no uncertain terms.  :shh
Cass is no certainty of playing so Cleve could still play but Cleve was disappointing last week. McRae said he didn't lead-up enough playing at CHF.

Good to see Tas playing as well as Harts in the ressies Granny.

Go Burgers  :gotigers



Full credit to Hart's for putting his hand up a week out from the end of the AFL season and saying I want to play finals for Coburg.  :clapping

I'm a bit confused by that WP, why is that clappable?  He should be playing for Coburg, why wouldnt he? Am I missing something?

Well done Tas on the recovery to make it back in time.  :clapping
Harts was in the same boat as Tas. He just made it back in time from injury (Harts had a broken foot).

Oh. my bad I thought Harts had recovered from his injuries earlier.
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: one-eyed on September 20, 2007, 11:49:39 PM
The opposition sides:

Geelong

B: Lonergan S.Hunt Callan
HB: Tenace Spencer D.Johnson
C: Davenport Byrne Varcoe
HF: Grima Playfair Gardiner
F: Gamble Hawkins Hogan
R: King Prismall Djerrkura
Int (from): Urie, Hollmer, Bedford, West, Firman, Cheep, Thompson, Clarke

AFL listed players in bold.


Port Melbourne ressies

B: Cain Henshaw McGlynn
HB: Sutcliffe Carroll Nayna
C: Debruin Pearce Johnstone
HF: Dwyer Thomas R.Monteath
F: Langford Gilham Peel
R: Bloomfield B. Nixon D. Kelly
Int (from): N.Nixon, T. Kelly, Waldron, Sheldon, Dalton, Allan, Tyrell, Plymin
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: tigersalive on September 21, 2007, 08:46:31 AM
So we would rather go in with 11 RFC players than 12 with Cleve.

Puts the writing on the wall for him in no uncertain terms.  :shh
Cass is no certainty of playing so Cleve could still play but Cleve was disappointing last week. McRae said he didn't lead-up enough playing at CHF.

But my point MT is that BOTH can play.  You only have 12 bolded, Cleve included.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: cub on September 21, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
There also with an ear peeled to sen for the storm game - Social club afterwards to watch last half of storm.

 :gotigers and storm boys
Title: VFL Record Grand Final Preview
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2007, 03:52:59 PM
VFL Record - Grand Final Preview

Cats look unstoppable
Geelong has firepower to shoot down young Tigers.


Geelong, riding a seven-game winning streak, including two victories over its Grand Final foe, is a red-hot favourite to today deny the Coburg Tigers’ bid to end their 18-year premiership drought.

The Cats have ruthlessly disposed of opponents throughout the season, with an emphatic 50-point average winning margin from its 16 wins. Included among those is the 37-point win against Coburg at Skilled Stadium in round 17 and a 31-point victory in the recent qualifying final.

Searching for their first flag since they defeated Williamstown at Windy Hill in 1989, the Coburg Tigers enter the Grand Final on a high after a confidence-boosting victory against the Seagulls. However, the side must somehow quell Geelong’s all-round strength.

The Cats’ ability to continually apply scoreboard pressure has been at the heart of their success. The club has kicked a competition-high 15 scores of 15-plus goals, and, nine times, including both finals wins, it has booted 20-plus goals.

The concern for Coburg Tigers coach Andy Collins is that Geelong doesn’t rely on a solitary avenue to goal. Todd Grima, who topped the club goalkicking with 50 goals, has kicked just four majors in the finals, but this hasn’t stopped Geelong piling on 46 goals during that time.

The Cats had 16 individual goalkickers during their two finals wins, with their goal scoring avenues stretching to midfielders James Byrne, Jason Davenport, Ryan Gamble, Brent Prismall and ruckman Steven King.

Coburg’s prospects hinge on its ability to limit the effectiveness of King, should he play in the VFL Grand Final. King’s dominance at the centre bounces and stoppages has provided the Cats’ midfield with silver service, and the big man is set to come up against Coburg Tigers captain Travis Ronaldson, who was similarly dominant in his club’s preliminary final success.

King was a clear winner when the pair met in the qualifying final, but Ronaldson, third in the 2007 Liston Trophy, has lifted himself and his teammates to new heights throughout the season.

The battle of the midfield will be just as pivotal. Byrne is clearly the best player in the TRUenergy VFL, as evidenced by his Liston Trophy success, but Coburg Tigers counterpart Alister Neville is also a quality player. Neville won the Frank Johnson Medal given to the best player in the VFL’s win against Western Australia
earlier in the season, and was outstanding in the club’s triumph over Williamstown.

Both Byrne and Neville have huge engines, which enables them to get to so many contests and make an impact. However, it’s unlikely the two will go head-to-head, with Collins likely to employ Nick Carnell to again shadow Byrne, a role he thrived on in the qualifying final.

While that is comforting for Collins, the concern is that Geelong was still able to surge clear in the last quarter to win comfortably. But it should be remembered that Coburg did not have the services of Richmond’s Daniel Jackson, Luke McGuane, Jack Riewoldt, and Kelvin Moore as well as Jarrod Silvester, who was named in the
TRUenergy VFL Team of the Year, in the qualifying final. All were outstanding in the Tigers’ past two wins.

Jackson, an effective stopper at AFL level, could be used on Byrne, Brent Prismall or Ryan Gamble. However, Byrne is just one of many prime movers in the Geelong midfield. Prismall, Gamble, Davenport and Jay Cheep not only have won plenty of possessions, but have been dangerous when drifting into attack.

Meanwhile, the Coburg Tigers gained the ascendancy last week when Fortunato Caruso, Joe Gazzo, Paul Shelton, Matthew White and Carnell took advantage of Ronaldson’s dominance. The challenge for the Coburg players is to reproduce last week’s performance on the biggest stage of the season.

Caruso and Gazzo are still in their teens in their first VFL season and Carnell is a second-year youngster, while Shelton is one of the few Coburg players with more than 50 VFL games under his belt.

Geelong has a distinct edge in experience. King, a veteran of 192 AFL games, heads the list, while Charlie Gardiner, David Johnson, Henry Playfair and Kane Tenace, should he play, have all run out in more than 50 AFL games. Also, Geelong has 11 players from last year’s VFL Grand Final.

On the other side of the ledger, the Coburg Tigers have just two Richmond players with 50-plus AFL games’
experience – Andrew Krakouer and Patrick Bowden. Krakouer has the ability to make something happen seemingly out of nothing and can be shackled for much of a match, only to produce an explosive burst of brilliance.Bowden is another mercurial player. He reads the play so well and his versatility allows him to be used in a variety of roles.

Both clubs have potent attacks and play with flair. Geelong has exciting youngster Tom Hawkins, the experienced Gardiner, Grima and the versatile Tom Lonergan to call upon up forward. The Cats can also use Henry Playfair – resolute at centre half-back against North Ballarat – in attack, along with Matthew Spencer in a key position.

The Coburg Tigers will welcome McGuane, Moore and Silvester into their defence this week, and all three have big roles to play.

Jay Schulz, Jack Riewoldt, Cleve Hughes and Bowden are all focal points, with Riewoldt particularly effective during the finals series. Playfair is likely to take Hughes, while Lonergan or Spencer could man up on Schulz or Riewoldt.

These are just some of the small battles in an intriguing duel that sees Geelong well placed to emerge with the coveted VFL premiership.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2007, 03:54:15 PM
The mainstream radio station are also broadcasting the VFL Grand Final:

ABC RADIO
commentators: Dan Lonergan, Rob Waters, Aaron Lord, Brad Gotch & Adam White

3AW:
commentators: Rex Hunt, Tony Leonard, Scott Cummings and Graeme Bond. Boundary: Andrew Hewett

K-Rock 95.5fm

ABC Local Radio in WA will also take the VFL Grand Final up until 2pm WST (during 3rd Quarter) before their coverage of the WAFL Grand Final.
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: Mr Magic on September 21, 2007, 04:19:18 PM
What's the go with Cleve Hughes.

Built like a Ferrari, plays like a Datsun.

Get angry young man.
Title: Re: Coburg selected teams
Post by: mightytiges on September 21, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
So we would rather go in with 11 RFC players than 12 with Cleve.

Puts the writing on the wall for him in no uncertain terms.  :shh
Cass is no certainty of playing so Cleve could still play but Cleve was disappointing last week. McRae said he didn't lead-up enough playing at CHF.

But my point MT is that BOTH can play.  You only have 12 bolded, Cleve included.
That's true tigersalive both can play but out of the eight named on the extended bench four are named in the ressies side as well meaning they are the likely ones to be cut. Cleve is one of those four.
Title: Andy Collins on the VFL Grand Final (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2007, 03:58:32 AM
Tenace, Hunt add class to Cats
22 September 2007   Herald Sun
Geoff Poulter

THE Coburg Tigers face the daunting task of trying to upset what looks the best "paper" line-up in recent VFL history in tomorrow's grand final at Princes Park.
 
Geelong, a hot flag favourite for several weeks, has selected 14 AFL-listed players and five AFL rookies in a powerful unit which also contains 2007 Liston Trophy winner James Byrne.

Coburg has improved through the finals and strengthened its side after its 31-point loss to the Cats in the qualifying final.

But Geelong could also be better with the inclusion of Kane Tenace and Sam Hunt after hamstring injuries.

The Burgers are young, willing and spirited and will be competitive but it's hard to see them controlling the Cats for the whole game.

Coburg coach Andrew Collins said coaching staff had been devising a new plan to try and overcome the challenge.

"We need to give them something different, so we will be structuring up a bit differently," Collins said.

"We have a plan and we'll see how that goes."

Collins understands the size of the task confronting his players

"What a spoil of riches they have, 19 (AFL) listed players," he said.

Coburg will have a maximum of 12 AFL-listed players from its affiliate Richmond.

Collins expects the ruck clash between Steven King and Travis Ronaldson to have a bearing on the outcome.

"Their midfield is strong-running, so the midfield clashes are very important," Collins said.

"King versus Ronaldson, the old bull versus the young bull.

"He'll play the game of his life and then they can bring on (back-up ruck Trent) West and he is not a slouch either.

"Ronaldson is very smart and has the heart of a lion.

"And they have got to watch our forwards. We've got Jay Schulz and Jack Riewoldt."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22460462%255E19771,00.html
Title: Re: Andy Collins on the VFL Grand Final (Herald-Sun)
Post by: blx on September 22, 2007, 09:13:31 AM

"And they have got to watch our forwards. We've got Jay Schulz and Jack Riewoldt."


 :help
Title: Re: Andy Collins on the VFL Grand Final (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigersalive on September 22, 2007, 12:50:45 PM

"And they have got to watch our forwards. We've got Jay Schulz and Jack Riewoldt."


 :help

Fixed.  :shh
Title: Re: Andy Collins on the VFL Grand Final (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 22, 2007, 04:51:55 PM

"And they have got to watch our forwards. We've got Jay Schulz and Jack Riewoldt."


 :help

Fixed.  :shh

 ;)

Bit harsh.

Schulz was very good last week - have a look at the tape - see his work rate at keeping the ball inside the Burger 50m zone - which wea sone of his main tasks. His job just isn't about kicking goals :shh
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Moi on September 23, 2007, 10:56:12 AM
Good luck Coburg today.
I was gonna go but I've got this massive cold, and I would only whinge every five seconds if I went lol
I just put a bet on them though.

Centrebet have got Geelong $1.30 and Coburg $3.40.

Well done to everyone down there who've got them this far.  A well run club :-)

Go Tiges

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 11:52:59 AM
VFL Ressies score

Q2 17 mins

Coburg  4.8-32
Port M   3.5-23

Cleve is playing now so Cass must be in the seniors GF.

Windy yet fine day in Melbourne today for those interstate/OS. Maybe a shower later this arvo.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 11:57:50 AM
The ressies GF is on 3SER 97.7fm  or on the net www.3ser.org.au

Q2 23 mins

40 - 23 ..... 2.6 to 0.3 this quarter.

Cleve has a goal so far. Mullins 2.

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
Cleve gets his second. Port player throws the ball away in disgust so Cleve gets his third from a gimme free.

61 - 24
Title: HT: Coburg ressies up by 37 points, Cleve 3 goals
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
Half-time

Coburg  3.4     8.13-61
Port M   3.2      3.6-24

Goals: Hughes 3, Mullins 2, Currie, De Souza, Anderson.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 12:35:03 PM
Update Q3 12 mins

69 - 24
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 12:45:56 PM
Q3 22 mins

87 - 24
Title: 3QT: Coburg ressies up by 52 points
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 12:55:52 PM
3/4-time

Coburg  3.4     8.13   12.16-88
Port M   3.2      3.6      5.6-36

Goals: Hughes 3, Mullins 2, Currie, De Sousa, Anderson, Carrick, Lynch, Corr, Liddle

I haven't heard Harts or Tas' names mentioned all day.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: tigersalive on September 23, 2007, 12:58:34 PM
Thanks O-E.   :gotigers

Hughes doing just enough but in the VFL ressies it should be domination for him.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
Hughes doing just enough but in the VFL ressies it should be domination for him.
Yep especially with Coburg dominating. Hearing it on radio though it's hard to know what off the ball work Cleve is doing. Commentators praising him saying he hasn't dropped his head after being dropped back to the VFL ressies.

Cleve gets his 4th just as we're talking about him and then assist to Mullins.

100 - 36
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 01:21:05 PM
Tas is playing. Just passed it to Cleve who gets his 5th. 5.2 for Cleve today.

109 - 50
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: tigersalive on September 23, 2007, 01:30:37 PM
Well done Cleve.  :clapping

Thats more like it. :gotigers
Title: Coburg ressies are premiers, Cleve kicked 5
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 01:33:53 PM
Final score

Coburg  3.4     8.13   12.16   17.20-122
Port M   3.2      3.6      5.6       8.8-56

Goals: Hughes 5, Mullins 3, De Sousa 3, Currie, Anderson, Carrick, Lynch, Corr, Liddle

Well done to Coburg ressies. The only negative is one of Coburg boys Huy injured himself early on and is on crutches.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 01:48:55 PM
Congrats to Coburg ressies. Cleve did his job which is good to hear.

Let's hope the Coburg seniors can make it a double  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:21:11 PM
Jacko first goal  :gotigers
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:25:31 PM
Dumb play by Coburg. Left the goal side of the ruck open for Hawkins to goal.

6 - 9
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:29:15 PM
So much for advantage ump  ::). Schulz all open and it's brought back.

7 - 10
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:36:10 PM
Coburg gifting Geelong goals with short kicks in defence that bounce 5-10m in front of teammates  :banghead

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Title: QT: Coburg down by 15
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:45:05 PM
Quarter time

Coburg   1.2-8
Geelong  3.5-23

Goal: Jackson.

Lucky to be just 15 points down. Missing targets, missing tackles. We're also missing someone at CHF.

Disposals:
Moore 6
Paddy 4
Cass   3

Shows how little we've had of the ball.


Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 02:56:38 PM
How did Paddy miss that goal  ???

Paddy makes up for it to Connors goals  :gotigers.

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Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:06:21 PM
Logan Hill goals after Geelong missed from 10m out.

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Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:09:58 PM
Davenport is killing us with cheap goals out the back.

Nat Caruso has a broken finger.

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Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Ox on September 23, 2007, 03:12:25 PM
shifty black bastards.

lmao@ a free goal
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:17:06 PM
Jacko on the run goals. Needed that.

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Title: HT: Coburg down by 14
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:19:25 PM
Half-time

Coburg    1.2    4.5-29
Geelong   3.5    5.13-43

Goals: Jackson 2, Connors, Hill

Hanging on. Lucky Geelong is missing shots. Pressure better that quarter but still falling down up forward and missing targets.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: TIGER 03 on September 23, 2007, 03:23:51 PM
richmond listd players not giving a yelp except for jackson and moore. whats up with jack riewodlt? play in front and you might get a kick.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:38:14 PM
Agree tiger03. Would say that about all our forwards. Jack has had a shocker so far. Schulz is trying but is being forced wide.

Not enough Burgers working hard enough off the ball and expecting others to do the work.

Nat Caruso off to hospital with a compound fracture to his finger.



Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:45:16 PM
That was not 50 but the way we're not switched on we deserve to be punished.

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Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 03:48:31 PM
3 Richmond players on the bench says it all. Schulz, Cass and JON.

Coburg have brought their worst game to the Granny.

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Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 23, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
Unfortunantely it could get uglier MT.
They look slow lethargic and uninterested.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
Yep so true HT74. Geelong are playing with Coburg  :(
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tigermonk on September 23, 2007, 04:03:18 PM
Coburg = Pathetic l not watching that terrible football

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 23, 2007, 04:06:57 PM
Yep so true HT74. Geelong are playing with Coburg  :(

Cats have become our bogey team over the last 20 years at all levels. :-\
It seems we seem to save our worst for Geelong.  :'(
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Ramps on September 23, 2007, 04:09:44 PM
game was lost at selection table. You cant have blokes like Hughes, Huy, Anderson and afew others in the ressies. Anyway we are rubbish today. Theres no elite talent to bring on from coburg except for Conners- and thats it.

Geelong has some nice players at reserves level who would comfortably get senior games at Punt Rd.
Title: 3QT: Coburg down by 10 goals
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
Coburg might be down to just two on the bench with Matty White's ankle flaring up again.

3/4 time

Coburg    1.2    4.5     4.6-30
Geelong   3.5    5.13  12.19-91

Goals: Jackson 2, Connors, Hill

Cleary blaming Geelong having 18 AFL players to 11.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: TIGER 03 on September 23, 2007, 04:11:26 PM
i know you cant judge someone on one game, but krak is a joke. six years in the system and he still cant play midfield. who is at fault krak or the coaching staff?
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tigermonk on September 23, 2007, 04:13:02 PM
Krakouer knows his going back to WA cya unfit wont work hard loser
Shultz = terrible player stuff him off as above
Oakley- Nicholls who said he can play football his nothing but a stuffin wank not even VFL standard  :rollin
White = delist
Silvester = pfft
Conners = is a showbag its all about him, his not a team player

whoever coaches the backline down at Richmond stuff him off now

Moore has earned his spot cant see why he was moved to forward our backline is being cut up
Jackson is a team player trying his heart out

but in all they were never gunna beat a AFL trained side like Geelong
well done for making the GF but its terrible watching kicks that kids could kick better

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 04:16:51 PM
Krak finally gets Coburg's 5th.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: TIGER 03 on September 23, 2007, 04:17:53 PM
totally agree

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tigermonk on September 23, 2007, 04:20:46 PM
watch JON worst football player l ever seen drafted whatever anyone seen in this loser has got me he cant even read the play
stuff HIM OFF
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: TIGER 03 on September 23, 2007, 04:27:29 PM
he is no top ten, thats for sure
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Ramps on September 23, 2007, 04:30:14 PM
I had hopes for JON and Riewoldt- gee whiz ... we're in trouble with our top picks i reckon.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 04:31:50 PM
JON should play forward lol. Gets a goal on the run from 50. 44 - 112
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 23, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
Nice goal by JON on the run from 50 but he has had alot of missing in action mates.
I would rather keep a 19 yo and give him another year than reward guys like P Bowden
Schulz  who have been in the system for at least 5 years and have shown SFA.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Ramps on September 23, 2007, 04:35:33 PM
Geelong has some players at reserves level who would get games at Richmond easily.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: harry bosch on September 23, 2007, 04:41:39 PM
I had hopes for JON and Riewoldt- gee whiz ... we're in trouble with our top picks i reckon.

lol nothing like reactionary tiger supporters..
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 23, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
Geelong has some players at reserves level who would get games at Richmond easily.

Just goes to show what an injury free or minimal injuries to your squad can do.
A full strength team both at reserves and seniors level.

Title: Coburg thrashed by 74 points
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 04:43:19 PM
Final score

Coburg    1.2    4.5     4.6        7.10-52
Geelong   3.5    5.13  12.19   17.24-126

Goals: Jackson 2, Connors, Krakouer, Oakley-Nicholls, Hill, Gazzo
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 05:24:59 PM
It was the lack of  hard running, 1%ers and basic footskills that killed us. It's unbelievable that for guys who train all the time can't hit a teammate 25m away  :help. With mistake after mistake we just couldn't generate any run or structure.

It's hard to single out poor individuals as most Burgers were. Only Moore and maybe Jacko came to play out of the RFC players. 

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2007, 06:06:36 PM
A mixed day for Coburg....

2007 TRUenergy VFL Seniors

Geelong           3.5  5.13  12.19  17.24 (126)
Coburg Tigers   1.2  4.5    4.6       7.10 (52)

GOALS:
Geelong: Lonergan 6 Davenport 2 Hawkins 2 Cheep  Hogan  Djerrkura  Gardiner  Grima  Varcoe  Gamble
Coburg Tigers: Jackson 2 Krakouer  Gazzo  Hill  Connors  Oakley-Nicholls

BEST:
Geelong: Lonergan Playfair Thompson King Byrne Davenport
Coburg Tigers: Jackson Ronaldson Horne Moore Neville Krakouer


REPORTED PLAYERS:
Geelong: T. Callan (Geelong) for charging N. Caruso (Coburg Tigers) in the 2nd quarter.
Coburg Tigers: Nil



2007 TRUenergy VFL Reserves

Coburg Tigers     3.4  8.13  12.16  17.20 (122)
Port Melbourne   3.2    3.6    5.6        8.8 (56)

GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Hughes 5 Mullins 3 De Sousa 3 Anderson  Liddle  CURRIE  Corr  Carrick  Lynch
Port Melbourne: Dwyer 2 Kelly 2 Gilham  Pearce  Thomas  Carroll

BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Foster Riddle Anderson Sewell Vasilevski Liddle
Port Melbourne: Nixon Nixon Cain Dwyer Nayna Kelly

REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: R. Trajkovski (Coburg Tigers) for striking R. Bloomfield (Port Melbourne) at the quarter time break.
Port Melbourne: Nil
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Passionfruit on September 23, 2007, 06:34:54 PM
As I have said before, both Schultz and Jarrod Oakley-Nichols wont make it.
We are basically wasting spots on the list""hoping "" these two will be regulars. cold facts, they wont and they are far from it. People talk about trading Schultz ::)  Who would want him.
As for JON, can he ever hit a target ? Even the commentators were laughing :lol
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tigermonk on September 23, 2007, 07:57:02 PM
As I have said before, both Schultz and Jarrod Oakley-Nichols wont make it.
We are basically wasting spots on the list""hoping "" these two will be regulars. cold facts, they wont and they are far from it. People talk about trading Schultz ::)  Who would want him.
As for JON, can he ever hit a target ? Even the commentators were laughing :lol

yep it was embarrassing watching players at that level making mistakes
its even a bigger joke when they are Richmond listed players
just goes to show our recruiters are not upto the standards as well

stuffin Richmond is so far below level on everything they spin us all poo  its a insult asking us for money to watch them
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 07:58:42 PM
If the Eagles could get pick 29 in a strong draft for McDougall then you'll be surprised what some clubs desperate for a KPP will pay for one. I don't believe JON will make it either but our recruiters by taking him with a first round pick have put him in a situation where he's being mocked. Mind you JON missing targets didn't stand out today because his teammates were just as shocking. Our kick-ins and kicks outside defensive 50 were so woeful it was tragic. Grubber after grubber  :banghead.

Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Passionfruit on September 23, 2007, 08:14:13 PM
If the Eagles could get pick 29 in a strong draft for McDougall then you'll be surprised what some clubs desperate for a KPP will pay for one. I don't believe JON will make it either but our recruiters by taking him with a first round pick have put him in a situation where he's being mocked. Mind you JON missing targets didn't stand out today because his teammates were just as shocking. Our kick-ins and kicks outside defensive 50 were so woeful it was tragic. Grubber after grubber  :banghead.



Mate, he should never had been in the draft in the first place, poor kick and bad decision making.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 08:31:13 PM
Mate, he should never had been in the draft in the first place, poor kick and bad decision making.
Agree about that (rookie at best) but all I'm saying is JON didn't draft himself. 
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Fishfinger on September 23, 2007, 08:56:24 PM
Geelong were just too big, too strong, too experienced and too good today.
What a year from Coburg though.  :)
Wooden spoon favourites that made it to the GF. Well done on a fantastic year that was way, way above expectations.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Passionfruit on September 23, 2007, 09:09:59 PM
Mate, he should never had been in the draft in the first place, poor kick and bad decision making.
Agree about that (rookie at best) but all I'm saying is JON didn't draft himself. 

Agree, Rookie who would have lasted one year.
We have delisted better players than him in the past.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: harry bosch on September 23, 2007, 09:15:26 PM
Had we not drafted him he would have still been drafted , possibly in the first round...

As disappointing as he has been he is still very young and had plenty of injury problems..
Still haven't completely given up hope..


Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: HKTiger on September 23, 2007, 09:24:43 PM
Had we not drafted him he would have still been drafted , possibly in the first round...

As disappointing as he has been he is still very young and had plenty of injury problems..
Still haven't completely given up hope..
HB,

Don't talk sense.  BTW:  Most of the over the top, emotive BS about one player was similarly aimed at Daniel Jackson and Luke McGuane as late as half way through the just completed season.  Patience and understanding teh development process is in short supply on Internet forums.

I think the issue is enough development coaches.  JON has the tools.  He just needs fitness and confidence.  He is only 19 after all.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
Geelong were just too big, too strong, too experienced and too good today.
What a year from Coburg though.  :)
Wooden spoon favourites that made it to the GF. Well done on a fantastic year that was way, way above expectations.  :thumbsup
That's true FF. Given Coburg came from rock bottom a couple of years ago, to end up finishing senior runners-up and ressie premiers is a terrific effort by all those at Coburg. It was just such a disappointing day. We just never got going (or weren't allowed to) and Nat Caruso going off seem to coincide with the floodgates opening for Geelong.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2007, 10:24:22 PM
Had we not drafted him he would have still been drafted , possibly in the first round...

As disappointing as he has been he is still very young and had plenty of injury problems..
Still haven't completely given up hope..
HB,

Don't talk sense.  BTW:  Most of the over the top, emotive BS about one player was similarly aimed at Daniel Jackson and Luke McGuane as late as half way through the just completed season.  Patience and understanding teh development process is in short supply on Internet forums.

I think the issue is enough development coaches.  JON has the tools.  He just needs fitness and confidence.  He is only 19 after all.

If McGuane and Jacko were first round picks they too would still be copping it. Their footskills skill need work especially Luke. As mid-late draft picks the scrutiny is less than if they went top 10 like JON. HB is correct to say another club would have taken him in the first round as he was rated in most phantom drafts in the top 20 so others rated JON highly too. However IMO a top 10 pick shouldn't have so many flaws that need working on as JON does. Footskills/kicking technique being the first thing you judge a youngster by. The modern game requires elite footskills. Alright skill doesn't cut it. If we truly don't want to accept mediocrity anymore then that's where we need to demand the bar be set.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: Gordon Bennett on September 24, 2007, 11:41:12 AM
I still think that a lot of JON's problems arise from lack of confidence, lack of self-belief, and inability to handle pressure. These things can change, sometimes very quickly, especially in one so young.

Coburg played poorly in difficult conditions. They are a very young side, and they cracked under the pressure of the "big occasion". The big difference between the teams was the level of experience, and the fact that they had 18 AFL players versus 11. That was too much of an advantage.

As FF said, what a great year for Coburg, way ahead of expectations. They should be congratulated.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 24, 2007, 08:31:51 PM
Had we not drafted him he would have still been drafted , possibly in the first round...

As disappointing as he has been he is still very young and had plenty of injury problems..
Still haven't completely given up hope..
HB,

Don't talk sense.  BTW:  Most of the over the top, emotive BS about one player was similarly aimed at Daniel Jackson and Luke McGuane as late as half way through the just completed season.  Patience and understanding teh development process is in short supply on Internet forums.

I think the issue is enough development coaches.  JON has the tools.  He just needs fitness and confidence.  He is only 19 after all.


Struth that's 2 scary posts right there - far too much logic  :gobdrop

Yes it was a disppointing day and a number of blokes didn't play well but kudos to them for getting there.

Coburg has had a sensational season and so have the RFC kids who have played there. They will learn from yesterday.

It was a bad day - sadly it was on the biggest day of the year but it happens.

Geelong were just too big, too strong, too experienced and too good today.
What a year from Coburg though.  :)
Wooden spoon favourites that made it to the GF. Well done on a fantastic year that was way, way above expectations.  :thumbsup
That's true FF. Given Coburg came from rock bottom a couple of years ago, to end up finishing senior runners-up and ressie premiers is a terrific effort by all those at Coburg. It was just such a disappointing day. We just never got going (or weren't allowed to) and Nat Caruso going off seem to coincide with the floodgates opening for Geelong.
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Exactly FF & MT.

Yes Nat's injury was a shocker - like Coburg's day. Saw him at the after match - compound dislocation - the bone went through the skin = OUCH Courageous kid Nat Caruso, ditto his brother Fort :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 26, 2007, 09:33:55 PM
Andy Collins has signed a 3-year deal with West Adelaide.

SEN spoke to Andy today and he told them that he would recommend the Casey Scorpion coach (I think it's Peter Banfield) as an ideal replacement for him at Coburg.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Geelong - VFL GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on November 08, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
The Werribee Banner is saying AFL Victoria will soon announce that next year's VFL Grand Final will be held at the Telstra Dome, on the Friday night before the AFL Grand Final.