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Title: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on September 27, 2007, 10:03:24 AM
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/good-friday-set-for-carlton-and-richmond/2007/09/26/1190486397598.html


If Steve Wright pulls victory from the jaws of defeat, where it was looking like Hawthorn had got in first, If Wright does this and gets this an annual match he is a dead set superstar CEO.
Title: Re: Good Friday- Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: mightytiges on September 27, 2007, 03:01:27 PM
It'd be all down to $$$. Carlton knows they'll make more money with a Carlton-Richmond crowd than a Carlton-Hawthorn one. Further proof to Hawk fans they are a minnow ;D. You'd think we'll give a percentage of the gate plus coinage from collection tins around the 'G to the Children's Hospital appeal and then split the rest.

Easter is early next year (round 1) so you'd think we'll be the opening game of the season as well.

Btw does Catholic and Orthodox Easter coincide next year? Ramps you're our Greek Orthodox expert  ;).   
Title: Re: Good Friday- Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Ramps on September 27, 2007, 03:43:01 PM
i think it does this year but then we are all clear for the next few years where it will fall different weeks. Id suggest however that for this 1st up game, we all make an effort to support it.
Title: Re: Good Friday- Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 27, 2007, 06:44:27 PM
Greek Easter is on April 27 next year so that would be Round 5.
That would be perfect to play Rich v Carl in rd 1 but another sticking point from an earlier thread was weren't we going to play the Dees in Round 1 next year to coincide with the fixture 100 years ago in our first ever game?
Not that I mind I would much rather play the Carlscum.
Hopefully our Board has taken into account Greek Easter and we will be playing on Sat April 26 next year if we are in Melb or have scheduled an interstate trip as was the case in 06 when we played Brisbane at the Gabba in round 4.
Title: Re: Good Friday- Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: mightytiges on October 04, 2007, 05:28:20 AM
Whichever club out of Carlton or us Judd finally ends up at, all this means the 'G will be packed out for this Good Friday game.
Title: Re: Good Friday- Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Ramps on October 04, 2007, 06:57:57 AM
Whichever club out of Carlton or us Judd finally ends up at, all this means the 'G will be packed out for this Good Friday game.


this is especially so, especially if we land him and the bluez come out to give it to judd in those circumstances. great start to good friday football tradition between richmond and carlton.
Title: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2007, 10:57:40 PM
From SEN and the tomorrow's Age:

Round 1
Richmond vs Carlton.

Most likely a twilight game on Easter Thursday but it could also be moved to Good Friday.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 09, 2007, 11:15:57 PM
Should be an absolute fantastic atmosphere now with the Judd talk and the chances he might end up at either club.
It would be great to see Judd in a Richmond jumper getting 30 posessions of quality against Carlscum but if he ends up at the LCT (Liars Cheats Thieves) it would be great to see him knocked out early on the game. Preferably by Kreuzer if the Scum have given away pick 1 to attain his services. :lol
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: torch on October 09, 2007, 11:56:14 PM
isn't a Carlton Home match though ??? ... is the draw released today ???
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2007, 01:20:52 AM
The Age has the game listed as Richmond-Carlton, not the other way around. It might not be at the 'G either due to cricket commitments  ???. The full fixture comes out this week.

Quote
With the AFL determined to launch the season with the now customary grand final rematch, Port Adelaide would host Geelong on Thursday night, with the Richmond-Carlton clash intended for Good Friday also mooted as a Thursday twilight game to be televised on Channel Ten immediately beforehand.

A first draft of the 2008 fixture released to the AFL's broadcasters this week revealed that the Good Friday scenario remained in jeopardy due to religious concerns and the fact that at least six clubs were fighting over the fixture despite Richmond and Carlton believing they were the AFL's first choice for the exclusive timeslot.

The MCG remains in doubt for the Easter round given its cricket commitments.

The AFL's decision to extend the 2008 home-and-away season, to be played over 24 weeks and including two mid-season breaks.

In an unusually early start, the pre-season competition will begin on Friday, February 15, which will create a 29-week official preparation for the 2008 finals series.

Full article at: http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/twogame-start-but-origin-dies/2007/10/09/1191695909388.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2007, 02:29:26 PM
At least if it's our home game it'll be a full house  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: bluey_21 on October 11, 2007, 04:51:34 PM
hope we beat Carlton and Deledio smashes Judd  :gotigers
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Ramps on October 11, 2007, 05:18:35 PM
Round 1. MCG 80,000 people

Dan Jackson comes of the wing at the first bounce and accidentally bumps Judd into the great southern stand.

 :clapping
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: torch on October 12, 2007, 12:27:11 AM
shame about state of origin !!! ... i hope that comes back !!!

2 week mid-season break ???
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Tigermonk on October 12, 2007, 10:54:34 AM
Round 1. MCG 80,000 people

Dan Jackson comes of the wing at the first bounce and accidentally bumps Judd into the great southern stand.

 :clapping

what a laugh ramps we aint got a footballer who can touch Judd & his ability
Title: Re: 2008 Draw / Round 1 Richmond vs Carlton
Post by: Ramps on October 12, 2007, 11:00:41 AM
Round 1. MCG 80,000 people

Dan Jackson comes of the wing at the first bounce and accidentally bumps Judd into the great southern stand.

 :clapping

what a laugh ramps we aint got a footballer who can touch Judd & his ability

you aint read my sig lol...
Title: No Good Friday footy
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2007, 05:10:47 PM
AFL just announced no Good Friday football so the Richmond-Carlton game is on Easter Thursday.
Title: 2008 Draw
Post by: cub on October 17, 2007, 12:15:21 PM
Any leaks or tips here please.

Most interested to see if/when playing in Brisvegas next year.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 17, 2007, 04:31:57 PM
I think they said Oct 25 the draw comes out. We should have a "easier" draw given we finished last but we'll probably still end up with back-to-back interstate trips, play down at Kardinia Park where our supporters can't get in and play too many home games at the Dome and most against Dome tenants  ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: cub on October 17, 2007, 04:40:09 PM
And the Skunks will get more games at the G than any of the original tenants. ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 17, 2007, 04:44:24 PM
And the Skunks will get more games at the G than any of the original tenants. ::)
And the excuse for that is other clubs want to play them for the $$$. Well where were their fans when we last played them. 49,000 and it was about a 80% Tiger crowd. Yeah we really made a killing on that game ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 17, 2007, 07:49:52 PM
And the Skunks will get more games at the G than any of the original tenants. ::)
And the excuse for that is other clubs want to play them for the $$$. Well where were their fans when we last played them. 49,000 and it was about a 80% Tiger crowd. Yeah we really made a killing on that game ::).

I know I made a killing that night on the Pies Hags sitting in front of me. :rollin
 Too bad they couldn't sit out the night such was my glee at Foleys 2 bounce sausage roll from the centre bounce. That was their last straw for the night. :lol
 I was even thinking going back to the G in the same seats the following week when the skunks played Melbourne to see whether those Skunk Hags sat there again to give them hell again.  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 17, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
I think they said Oct 25 the draw comes out. We should have a "easier" draw given we finished last but we'll probably still end up with back-to-back interstate trips, play down at Kardinia Park where our supporters can't get in and play too many home games at the Dome and most against Dome tenants  ::).

October 26 according to the Sun today.

However the fixture went out to clubs today so lets hope some leaks are on the way.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 19, 2007, 02:42:48 AM
from the Herald-Sun...

Round 1, Thursday twilight March 20, Richmond vs Carlton  @ MCG  (good friday eve)

Round 9 or 10, Saturday night May 24, Essendon vs Richmond  @ MCG (dreamtime game)

The Pies may have 6 interstate trips next year  ;D. The Dogs get 7  :o.

Link. (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22610717%255E19742,00.html)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 19, 2007, 06:57:48 AM
from the Herald-Sun...

Round 1, Thursday twilight March 20, Richmond vs Carlton  @ MCG  (good friday eve)

Round 9 or 10, Saturday night May 24, Essendon vs Richmond  @ MCG (dreamtime game)

The Pies may have 6 interstate trips next year  ;D. The Dogs get 7  :o.

Link. (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22610717%255E19742,00.html)


i heard that about the pies, its about time they get to travel, the last 4 or so years we have been screwed in that department

hope its all true and we dont have to travel much
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Beren on October 19, 2007, 04:21:21 PM
Think we must have 5 interstate trips (or Geelong again) as my Membership is for 17 games.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 19, 2007, 05:16:05 PM
Cousins vs Judd in round 1 lol.

Think we must have 5 interstate trips (or Geelong again) as my Membership is for 17 games.
If it's 4 Interstate trips then my guess would be:

Brisbane - we didn't play at the Gabba this year.
Port - we always play them away every year ::)
Sydney - we'll generate a decent crowd for the AFL.
At least once to Perth.

Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 20, 2007, 03:56:36 PM
We're not playing in Tassie next year according to the Mercury.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 25, 2007, 12:34:34 AM
8 MCG home Games.

3 TD home games.


AFL tried to convince us to have 4 TD games.  :banghead
Title: Tigers snarling over Dome home games (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on October 25, 2007, 01:26:47 AM
 >:(

Tigers snarling over Dome home games
Caroline Wilson | October 25, 2007

RICHMOND is seething over the 2008 AFL draw, which has again failed to recognise the club as a definitive home tenant of the MCG, scheduling three Tigers' home games at Telstra Dome, including one against MCG co-tenant Melbourne.

In a move certain to antagonise both Richmond and Melbourne supporters, the two clubs have again been forced to play each other at the Docklands stadium in a Richmond home game.

A further insult is that the Tigers have been scheduled a Telstra Dome home game against St Kilda.

The AFL will unveil its 2008 draw tomorrow, with the Tigers and Carlton opening the season with an Easter-eve twilight game at the MCG — cricket commitments permitting. This will run back-to-back against the Thursday night clash at AAMI Stadium between 2007 grand finalists Port Adelaide and Geelong.

As revealed in The Age, the Thursday night double-header will open the season a week early on March 20, with each club being handed two breaks during the season, one as a split round over late June-early July and the other a mid-season break scheduled for the Mother's Day weekend in May.

With the AFL placing a state-of-origin revival in the too-hard basket, it is understood the league has instead chosen to schedule a Victoria-All Stars clash on the eve of Mothers' Day (May 10) as part of the game's 150th anniversary celebrations.

While the AFL has yet to complete the details of the clash, the game is expected to be played at the MCG and televised on Channel Ten. The decision to select key players from all clubs is certain to meet opposition from most of the 16 teams.

The Richmond board, which met last night, was understood to have been disappointed with the AFL's Telstra Dome push.

The league recently tried to convince the club to agree to a 7-4 home-game split between the MCG and Telstra Dome but was firmly rejected by the Tigers, who have pushed for the past five years to play a minimum of nine MCG home games.

With the Tigers managing to draw respectable crowds at their traditional home ground despite last year's dreadful performances, the club directors remained dismayed at the decision, particularly given that two of the club's MCG home games have been scheduled against Adelaide and West Coast — games better suited to Telstra Dome.

But Richmond received some consolation in that the AFL has agreed to schedule its centenary clash at the MCG against Carlton as a night game at the end of June during the second split round.

The Tigers will wear their original jumper for that game.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-snarling-over-dome/2007/10/24/1192941152468.html
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 25, 2007, 06:31:44 AM
just proves that our club board and president have no power push or say in anything.

we need a board that will command respect and fight tooth and nailo 4 what is right for us.

march is weak, is an afl pushover, has no presence about him  and no one in the afl listens to anything he says

we have to many fos tossers running our club
Title: Re: Tigers snarling over Dome home games (The Age)
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
The Club's draw wishes should be more demanding so they get what they want. We should be demanding all 11 home games at the 'G and say so publicly too. Sure the AFL will laugh but when they say 7 the middle ground is 9. Asking for only 9 means the middle ground is 8 which is what we got. We only asked for 9 last year trying to be reasonable and copped the same shabby treatment from the AFL so we should have learnt from it.

It's frustrating that when the club needs to be publicly vocal on things like receiving dud draws it's silent, yet when it should shut-up say before the start of the season it opens its big gob only to filled with our own foot :-\. The Club should be flat out angry about this not just "disappointed".

The league recently tried to convince the club to agree to a 7-4 home-game split between the MCG and Telstra Dome
Get stuffed would be my response  :banghead

I'm sure Browny is rapt about playing Melbourne at the Dome  :P.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Fishfinger on October 25, 2007, 12:12:54 PM
The thing that irks me about it is Hawthorn and Melbourne "sell" home games interstate and still get their 8 MCG home games.
Why should these "sold" games never be their MCG home games? Seems to me we're the ones the AFL wants to shunt over to TD to cover the teams who should be playing there. It sucks.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2007, 12:30:29 PM
The thing that irks me about it is Hawthorn and Melbourne "sell" home games interstate and still get their 8 MCG home games.
Why should these "sold" games never be their MCG home games? Seems to me we're the ones the AFL wants to shunt over to TD to cover the teams who should be playing there. It sucks.
Exactly. It's all about using us and the crowds we draw to satisfy the Collins and the Dome in terms of $$$. That's why we play Victorian sides there like St Kilda yet are playing interstate sides still at the larger 'G. The AFL are pushing us to make the Dome more our home ground  >:(.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 25, 2007, 12:31:57 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D


 
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 25, 2007, 12:54:37 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D

March has done a bloody good job with our finances off the field but certainly has no where near the impact he should have to get us those 9-10 home MCG games.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Darth Tiger on October 25, 2007, 12:55:52 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D


What the ??  Leave March out of this.
Dont let facts like the CEO being the administrator of the club has the responsibility to push for fixturing !
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 25, 2007, 01:01:42 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D


What the ??  Leave March out of this.
Dont let facts like the CEO being the administrator of the club has the responsibility to push for fixturing !
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.

I'll bookmark this thread and we'll wait and see how Carlton go tomorrow ok after a another bad season.

I reckon we'll be pleasently . .  BLOODY peeed OFF! lol
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: cub on October 25, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
8 home games at the G and 3 'Home' Games at the dume

(http://planetsmilies.net/obscene-smiley-983.gif) Demetriouopoulas
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
The Fonz strikes back  :chuck
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2007, 02:14:45 PM
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.
True Darth. More about on-field results than anything else. With the 3rd highest crowds in the AFL and good friday night tv ratings for our games this year despite finishing last we still get treated like a minnow  :P.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 25, 2007, 02:46:01 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D


What the ??  Leave March out of this.
Dont let facts like the CEO being the administrator of the club has the responsibility to push for fixturing !
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.

I'll bookmark this thread and we'll wait and see how Carlton go tomorrow ok after a another bad season.

I reckon we'll be pleasently . .  BLOODY peeED OFF! lol

I can start it off early it seems.

Carlton travel interstate four times.  :banghead
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Darth Tiger on October 25, 2007, 04:22:27 PM
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.
True Darth. More about on-field results than anything else. With the 3rd highest crowds in the AFL and good friday night tv ratings for our games this year despite finishing last we still get treated like a minnow  :P.

MT, the fundamentals are there, IMHO a sustained crack in the finals is the missing ingredient.

FWIW, I reckon Steve Wright is doing an excellent job.

Now, we just have to get the list together (but that is covered on other threads).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on October 25, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
sounds really fishy to me  ;D

Weak people like the President to the board that represent the club
we have the weakest link
l better not start talking about his failed buisness dealings outside of football  ;D


What the ??  Leave March out of this.
Dont let facts like the CEO being the administrator of the club has the responsibility to push for fixturing !
The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.

Totally correct.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 25, 2007, 05:38:04 PM
I put March in the same category as schulz. both duds.
what exactly does this March actually do. whose side is he on cause lets be honest it aint ours.

i cant remember which one of u said that the afl are pushing us into making the dome our home ground well until we get rid of this march loser that wouldnt surprise me if it happened.

march u r a weak soft prick. get lost
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on October 25, 2007, 05:40:51 PM
I put March in the same category as schulz. both duds.
what exactly does this March actually do. whose side is he on cause lets be honest it aint ours.

i cant remember which one of u said that the afl are pushing us into making the dome our home ground well until we get rid of this march loser that wouldnt surprise me if it happened.

march u r a weak soft prick. get lost


what rot.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 25, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
Apparently we play Hawthorn twice next year both at the MCG.

The draw is released 10.40am tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 25, 2007, 06:48:42 PM
Playing the Hawks twice means twice as many media articles comparing our list to theirs :sleep

The only way to improve the draw position for the Tigers is to get better on-field results.
All this dreaming of being a power ... only sustained success on-field in finals, TV viewers and in attendance numbers will make the AFL take notice which would result in the favoured RFC draw.
True Darth. More about on-field results than anything else. With the 3rd highest crowds in the AFL and good friday night tv ratings for our games this year despite finishing last we still get treated like a minnow  :P.

MT, the fundamentals are there, IMHO a sustained crack in the finals is the missing ingredient.

FWIW, I reckon Steve Wright is doing an excellent job.

Now, we just have to get the list together (but that is covered on other threads).
Agree with all that Darth. Wright coming on board has been the best thing to happen to the RFC in a long time.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 25, 2007, 10:48:15 PM
Round 3 is the rivalry round again and as Carlton are playing Essendon we're probably be playing Collingwood again.
Title: Melbourne v Richmond at Dome silly: Demons chief (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 05:23:11 AM
Melbourne v Richmond at Dome silly: Demons chief
Michael Gleeson | October 26, 2007 | The Age

DRAWING the MCG's longest-serving tenants, Melbourne and Richmond, to play one another at Telstra Dome in a year of mutual historic celebrations — as revealed in The Age yesterday — was silly and beyond a regular anomaly of the draft, according to Demons chairman Paul Gardner.

With Melbourne celebrating its 150th year next year and Richmond its 100th in the VFL/AFL, Gardner said the opportunity was there for the league to embrace the game and promote it as a joint initiative at the home ground.

"There are always some anomalies with playing games at Telstra Dome, but Richmond and Melbourne, as the longest-term tenant clubs at the MCG, is particularly silly to be played at Telstra Dome," Gardner said.

"It's like playing Port Adelaide and Adelaide at Whyalla. It is ridiculous.

"But it is Richmond's home game, so it is not for us to complain about.

"But being in our 150th year, and in Richmond's 100th year (in the league), I would have thought you could have made a song and dance about it and made it a special day at the MCG.

"Our members have shown over a long period of time now that they don't like going to Telstra Dome.

"Telstra Dome has a number of advantages, but if the numbers keep telling you people from one side just won't go there, then you just have to look at the figures."

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/melbourne-v-richmond-at-dome-silly-demons-chief/2007/10/25/1192941242853.html
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 26, 2007, 08:52:58 AM
gee why aint our president Gary March jumping up & down
the supporters of both clubs for years have complained about playing home games at the Dome
on days when there is no football games at the MCG at all
The sooner that Anderson & Demetriou are out of our game the bloody better
one person l cant stand is that Anderson prick
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: wayne on October 26, 2007, 10:12:37 AM
Season opens with Richmond and Melbourne at the Dome??
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 26, 2007, 10:27:57 AM
Naa Carlton and Richmond at the MCG.  :thumbsup

One of our trips is to AAMI stadium in round 19.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 26, 2007, 10:48:07 AM
Go for it.  :thumbsup

http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=208&newsId=52786
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 26, 2007, 10:51:33 AM
Our centenary game is on Fox.  ::)

Doesnt really matter since I'll be there but still . . .
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 11:09:22 AM
RICHMOND

1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm
11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm
19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 11:10:50 AM
Play Bottom 8 Twice 4
Play Top 8 Twice 3

Matches By Venue
Venue             Total Home Away

Subiaco                       2 0 2
AAMI Stadium              2 0 2
SCG                             1 0 1
Games Outside Victoria 5 0 5

Telstra Dome                5 3 2
MCG                           12 8 4
Games In Victoria      17 11 6

Matches By Timeslot
Time Slot        Total Home Away

Sun Twilight(Sun)      3 2 1
Pub Hol(Thu)             1 0 1
Sat Night(Sat)           4 2 2
Total Night Game       8 4 4
Sun Early(Sun)          2 1 1
Sat Aft(Sat)               6 5 1
Sun Aft(Sun)             6 1 5
Total Day Game        14 7 7

http://afl.com.au/Portals/0/afl_docs/2008_Schedule_By_Team_Report_FINAL.pdf
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: DallasCrane on October 26, 2007, 11:15:04 AM
4 out of our 5 interstate trips are on a Sunday afternoon which makes it a bit of a pain to get back to work on the Monday...

Collingwood, again, only 4 interstate trips, I thought Eddie was all for a "level playing field"!!!
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 11:20:03 AM
1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm

8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm

11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm

14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm

19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm

games in bold we cannot win

total maximum wins for us = 7

most likely scenario= 4 wins
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: DallasCrane on October 26, 2007, 11:20:42 AM
Playing Essendon in Rnd 9 & Rnd 16 is a slight anomaly also, one that I will take though!
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 26, 2007, 11:22:16 AM
1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm

8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm

11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm

14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm

19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm

games in bold we cannot win

Games in red I think you're being a bit rough on.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: DallasCrane on October 26, 2007, 11:22:32 AM
1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm

8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm

11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm

14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm

19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm

games in bold we cannot win

Hey Ramps, why do you think Essendon will beat us at the 'G in Rnd 9 but not Rnd 16?
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 11:23:24 AM
r13 pivotal round i reckon.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 11:24:38 AM
What a nightmare for membership and sponsorship  :banghead .

Only 2 home games in the first 6 rounds and no Friday night prime time games  ???

11 Sunday games  :P

Travel twice to Perth and Adelaide. I guess we should be grateful there's no back-to-back interstate trips this year.

Pies only travel interstate 4 times and play the bottom 8 sides twice 4 times even though they finished 3rd  ::)  


Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 11:25:37 AM
by my calculations we will probably have a change of coach sometime between R9 and r13 and I see us having more chance to win games post r13. Its not a good draw but what can we do. Just do our best and see what happens.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: julzqld on October 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
Why do we play Carlton and Essendon twice before even playing the Lions once?  No Gabba game again :banghead.  Why is the Melbourne game at Telstra (I know this question has already been asked).  At least there are no games at Skilled Stadium.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 11:34:34 AM
1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm

8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm

11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm

14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm

19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm

games in bold we cannot win

total maximum wins for us = 7

most likely scenario= 4 wins
If there's one club we can beat it's Collingwood especially in a home game. Same goes for the Bombers. St Kilda who we haven't beaten in 4 years and Carlton will be far tougher for us than the Dons and Pies.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 11:38:44 AM
its just an opinion. as diggs would say we'll all be booking the caravan parks for september holidays again. Where is he anyway, he just made the odd appearance in here and hes peeed off again. Diggs common mate, where are you, lets see your opinion of how well we'll go in 2008  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: DallasCrane on October 26, 2007, 11:40:47 AM
and no Friday night prime time games  ???

That stinks!
In a way though we've only got ourselves to blame...
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 11:41:37 AM
Why do we play Carlton and Essendon twice before even playing the Lions once? 
They've changed it this year. No longer does everyone play everybody else once by round 15.

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Why is the Melbourne game at Telstra (I know this question has already been asked). 
Because the AFL are morons  ;).

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At least there are no games at Skilled Stadium.
Yep at least sanity prevails there.

I guess the positive is it's better to have a crap draw now when we are crap and then hope we get better draws in 2-3 years time.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 11:42:26 AM
Picks 1 and 2 in next years national draft coming up. There is hope!
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 11:49:49 AM
and no Friday night prime time games  ???

That stinks!
In a way though we've only got ourselves to blame...
True DC but not even one  ???. It wasn't as though we rated poorly.

I don't care for myself but with the Motorola sponsorship up in the air still it won't help going to a new potential sponsor if we need to and say to them your product will get no Friday night primetime tv exposure at all :-\.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
Picks 1 and 2 in next years national draft coming up. There is hope!
Love the optimism Ramps  :lol.

The first 3 games will be tester. Win 2 of out 3 and the confidence will grow; Lose all 3 and it'll be a long long season with the tank in full swing.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Moi on October 26, 2007, 12:04:31 PM
Well I won't be going next year - stuff the AFL with all those Sunday games  :banghead
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 26, 2007, 12:10:48 PM
why is it again u people like this march fella. What exactly has he done.

It looks to me like he is too busy with his own personal interests to stand up for us in getting a better deal.

this draw is crap and i guarantee you with a president with a bit of balls we may have got a better deal
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 26, 2007, 12:16:20 PM
the draw really does not matter, if we are good enough we will win most games, if we are not then we lose

we should not (like the pies)  rely on the draw to get us into finals, we dont want charity, we must earn it.

the interstate teams travel more than anyone, they dont complain about travelling.

the draw is the draw, until we become an elite top team we will never get looked after so we shoudl just put up and shut up and just play to win

the only f thing that peees me off is that we dont have a home ground

it was the g, but now we are in limbo

i just dont get it, ur home ground is ur home ground regardless how good or crap u r, thus we should be playing all our home games at the g

re how good everyone thinks wright and teh board are doing, they are as week as fairy floss

bunch of week faced pushover pansies
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 26, 2007, 12:20:29 PM
thats what im on about.

the draw is a joke lets be serious but we always get nothing from the AFL.

but the g is our ground and miller, march, wallace, the lot of em are a joke and i hope and pray this time next year all 3 are out of this football club. wallace i feel for the most but still he is as soft as the rest of em.

I man for march to sit back and allow richmond to play the dees at telstra dome shows a complete lack of respect for this footy club and should go and go now.

that is a disgrace and shows that our footy club is a rabble
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on October 26, 2007, 01:48:34 PM
why is it again u people like this march fella. What exactly has he done.

It looks to me like he is too busy with his own personal interests to stand up for us in getting a better deal.

this draw is crap and i guarantee you with a president with a bit of balls we may have got a better deal

Presidents dont determine the draw, each club has a chance to express their wish list, do you know what the RFC actually submitted....i doubt it.

whether that gets met or not is up to the AFL, if you have a bitch have it against the MCC and the deal they did with the Woods.

for gods sake at the end of the day we as a team have to be able to play at any arena in any condition, stop looking for scapegoats especially the board, more in particular March and moreso Wright if it wasnt these two we would be in bigger strife.

yes the draw is disappointing but for christsake get behind the club and support it instead of at every opportunity trying to get stuck into.

im sure there are supporters from other clubs just as disappointed with their lot, until such time we have all teams play each other twice there will be inequaties in the draw.

 
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Gordon Bennett on October 26, 2007, 02:14:42 PM


this draw is crap and i guarantee you with a president with a bit of balls we may have got a better deal
and how exactly could you guarantee it?
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 26, 2007, 02:16:42 PM
Gee after seeing that draw we really got shafted worse than last year
Power Eddie at Collingwood really knows his buisness they got it sweeter than us

its up to the coaches & playing group now to play there best footy

Playing Collingwood only once peeed me off & the way the draw is set out is stupidity from the AFL changing things every year

at least the supporters will be happy to know that we can go watch Geelong smash us back into the dark ages next year as we dont venture to Skilled Stadium in miserable weather we can stay dry & cry under the roof of the Telstra Dome  ;D just bring some extra hankies  :thumbsup

On the NAB cup season l like to see the Tigers & the Pies go all out to meet each other in the Night Grand Final where we can give them a real belting ?? will joffa be there bragging about a easy 100 pt win again l hope the tiger supporters dont let him forget that too easy  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 26, 2007, 02:18:31 PM
dont care about the draw, just our home ground issue

thats the only problem
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Gordon Bennett on October 26, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
I find it amusing that some people have already made statements like " we can't win these (designated) games". What a load of rubbish. Of course we can win some of those games.

You absolute pessimists  ...you must be a lot of fun to live with. Moan, whinge, moan, whinge...

Title: The step-by-step guide to our draw (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 02:22:28 PM
The step-by-step guide to our draw
1:49 PM Fri 26 October, 2007
richmondfc.com.au

Step by step, this is what’s in store for the Tigers during the ’08 season . . .

MCG

· 12 games all-up at the ‘G’  (12 in ’07)
· 8 home games  (8 in ’07)
· 4 away games  (4 in ’07)
· 8 day games  (5 in ’07)
· 3 twilight games  (2 in ’07)
· 1 night game  (5 in ’07)
· 1 Thursday twilight game  (pre-Easter)
· 0 Friday night games  (4 in ’07)
· 5 Saturday afternoon games  (3 in ’07)
· 1 Saturday night game  (1 in ’07)
· 3 Sunday afternoon games  (2 in ’07)
· 2 Sunday twilight games  (2 in ’07)

Telstra Dome

· 5 games all-up at Telstra Dome  (4 in ’07)
· 3 home games  (3 in ’07)
· 2 away games  (1 in ’07)
· 3 night games  (2 in ’07)
· 1 twilight game  (2 in ’07)
· 1 day game  (0 in ’07)
· 0 Friday night games  (0 in ’07)
· 0 Saturday afternoon games  (0 in ’07)
· 3 Saturday night games  (2 in ’07)
· 1 Sunday afternoon game  (0 in ’07)
· 1 Sunday twilight game  (2 in ’07)

Interstate

· 5 games all-up interstate  (5 in ’07)
· 1 AAMI Stadium, Saturday afternoon (v Port)
· 1 AAMI Stadium, Sunday afternoon (v Adelaide)
· 1 SCG, Sunday afternoon  (v Sydney
· 2 Subiaco Sunday afternoons  (v Fremantle, West Coast)

Day by day

· 1 Thursday twilight game  (0 in ’07)
· 0 Friday night games  (5 in ’07)
· 6 Saturday afternoon games  (5 in ’07)
· 4 Saturday night games  (5 in ’07)
· 8 Sunday afternoon games  (3 in ’07)
· 3 Sunday twilight games  (4 in ’07)
· 10 Saturday games all-up  (10 in ’07)
· 11 Sunday games all-up  (7 in ’07)
 

Them’s the breaks

· four 8-day breaks  (8 in ’07)
· nine 7-day breaks  (5 in ’07)
· five 6-day breaks  (7 in ’07)
· one 15-day break
· one 14-day break
· one 10-day break

Other fixture facts

· Play twice:  Adelaide, Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, Hawthorn, Melbourne.
· Play once:  Brisbane, Collingwood, Kangaroos, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Sydney, West Coast, Western Bulldogs.
· Play three of the 2007 finalists twice in ’08 – Adelaide, Geelong and Hawthorn  (met the 2006 finalists four times in ’07)
· Interstate trips to:  Adelaide, Sydney, Perth  (same as in ’07).
· Eight of the first nine games either at the MCG or Telstra Dome.
· Six of the last seven games either at the MCG or Telstra Dome.
· Last three games at the MCG.
· Play Carlton twice (Round 1 & Round 14) before we meet West Coast for the first time (Round 15).
· Play Essendon twice (Round 9 & Round 16) before we meet Brisbane for the first time (Round 17).
· Not scheduled to play Geelong at Skilled Stadium for the first time since 2004.

http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52816
Title: Steven Wright on the draw (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 02:27:17 PM
The inside word on the Tigers’ 2008 fixture
11:31 AM Fri 26 October, 2007
for richmondfc.com.au

“The three MCG home games against our traditional rivals in Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon will no doubt please our supporters”, said Steven Wright, Richmond CEO.

“Commercially, our draw is stronger than what it was in 2007 and we’re happy that our request to play Carlton in a special Centenary celebration match at the MCG on a Saturday afternoon, mid-season, was granted.  The ‘Dreamtime at the G’ Blockbuster, which was a key Club request, will also continue in ’08.

“While we were seeking nine home games at the MCG, we’ve been given eight – the same as this year, which is one more than we had for several seasons before that. All-up, we have 12 games at the ‘G’, our traditional home.

“From a football perspective, it seems a reasonable draw with no back-to-back interstate trips, unlike the last two seasons, and adequate breaks between matches.

“Our home game against Melbourne at Telstra Dome is clearly an anomaly particularly given our Centenary in AFL/VFL and Melbourne’s 150th birthday celebrations.  It is also disappointing to not have any Friday night games, but given our ladder position in ’07, this was not unexpected.”

Key elements of the fixture for Richmond are:

* Key RFC centenary home match v Carlton on Saturday 28 June 2008, MCG – Split Round 14

* Rivalry Round home game against Collingwood at the MCG – Round 3

* “Dreamtime at G” game against Essendon in Round 9 (away)

http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52807
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Beren on October 26, 2007, 02:38:19 PM
Since when is Thursday March 20th a public holiday as stated in the AFL draw?
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Ramps on October 26, 2007, 03:51:34 PM
I find it amusing that some people have already made statements like " we can't win these (designated) games". What a load of rubbish. Of course we can win some of those games.

You absolute pessimists  ...you must be a lot of fun to live with. Moan, whinge, moan, whinge...



come back and criticise in R13 lol  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: julzqld on October 26, 2007, 04:07:54 PM
the draw really does not matter, if we are good enough we will win most games, if we are not then we lose

we should not (like the pies)  rely on the draw to get us into finals, we dont want charity, we must earn it.

the interstate teams travel more than anyone, they dont complain about travelling.

the draw is the draw, until we become an elite top team we will never get looked after so we shoudl just put up and shut up and just play to win

the only f thing that peees me off is that we dont have a home ground

it was the g, but now we are in limbo

i just dont get it, ur home ground is ur home ground regardless how good or crap u r, thus we should be playing all our home games at the g

re how good everyone thinks wright and teh board are doing, they are as week as fairy floss

bunch of week faced pushover pansies
Oh dear - I can't believe I'm actually going to say this .... but I actually agree with most of what X has said.  Apart from March.  Actually how much influence does the board of a club have on the AFL with regards to the draw?   My theory is stupid Andy D. is giving us the finger for those comments about tanking - which of course doesn't happen.  The funny thing about the Pies relying on the draw - still doesn't really get their anyway does it?  We still beat them  :lol  Shame they aren't coming up here though :'(
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 26, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
I find it amusing that some people have already made statements like " we can't win these (designated) games". What a load of rubbish. Of course we can win some of those games.

You absolute pessimists  ...you must be a lot of fun to live with. Moan, whinge, moan, whinge...



i agree gordon

and as i have said, the draw is not the issue. we should always accept the draw because we know it can never be fair and even,  because its not a true home and away season.  If it was a 30 rond season and everyone played each other home and away then it would always be a fair and equal draw for everyone

my beef isnt the draw, its the fact we dont have a 100% home ground.  we should be playing all our 11 home games at the g, full stop , period!


and we may just come out next yr and win the first 7 games str8, no one knows, next yr hasnt started yet. but what we so know is we dont have a home ground and that sux
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 26, 2007, 04:11:28 PM
the draw really does not matter, if we are good enough we will win most games, if we are not then we lose

we should not (like the pies)  rely on the draw to get us into finals, we dont want charity, we must earn it.

the interstate teams travel more than anyone, they dont complain about travelling.

the draw is the draw, until we become an elite top team we will never get looked after so we shoudl just put up and shut up and just play to win

the only f thing that peees me off is that we dont have a home ground

it was the g, but now we are in limbo

i just dont get it, ur home ground is ur home ground regardless how good or crap u r, thus we should be playing all our home games at the g

re how good everyone thinks wright and teh board are doing, they are as week as fairy floss

bunch of week faced pushover pansies
Oh dear - I can't believe I'm actually going to say this .... but I actually agree with most of what X has said.  Apart from March.  Actually how much influence does the board of a club have on the AFL with regards to the draw?   My theory is stupid Andy D. is giving us the finger for those comments about tanking - which of course doesn't happen.  The funny thing about the Pies relying on the draw - still doesn't really get their anyway does it?  We still beat them  :lol  Shame they aren't coming up here though :'(

you maybe right about fonzi dimitripoo julz.

but i gather eddie has alot to say that gets heard at afl house

and btw julz, you know deep down somehere in ur heart you still love me :whistle :o ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 04:46:29 PM
My gripes with the draw are from an off-field perspective. Sure on-field the team should just accept what's given and concentrate on winning games as all grounds are oval shape and have 4 posts at either end but things like no friday night tv games, 11 Sunday games, playing "home" games at the Dome and having only 2 home games in the first 6 rounds when you're trying to sign up members early in the season affect the bottom line of the RFC.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 05:03:07 PM
The bloke from the AFL who does the draw was on SEN just before talking about us. He said we've got more MCG games next year as requested by the Club yet we had 12 games this year and get 12 again next year  ???.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 26, 2007, 05:15:27 PM
The bloke from the AFL who does the draw was on SEN just before talking about us. He said we've got more MCG games next year as requested by the Club yet we had 12 games this year and get 12 again next year  ???.

Gillon McLaughlin you are a complete tool.

I hate him or than Vlad.  Dead set.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 05:24:51 PM
The bloke from the AFL who does the draw was on SEN just before talking about us. He said we've got more MCG games next year as requested by the Club yet we had 12 games this year and get 12 again next year  ???.

Gillon McLaughlin you are a complete tool.

I hate him or than Vlad.  Dead set.
And Adrian "Mr fix it when it ain't broken" Anderson.

McLaughlin also said we didn't get any Friday games as the networks (in this case Ch 7) have their say in the draw. Ox then comes on after the news and says Richmond had high ratings in their Ch 7 friday night games this year. Geez the AFL talk crap  ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on October 26, 2007, 06:32:55 PM
The bloke from the AFL who does the draw was on SEN just before talking about us. He said we've got more MCG games next year as requested by the Club yet we had 12 games this year and get 12 again next year  ???.

Gillon McLaughlin you are a complete tool.

I hate him or than Vlad.  Dead set.
And Adrian "Mr fix it when it ain't broken" Anderson.

McLaughlin also said we didn't get any Friday games as the networks (in this case Ch 7) have their say in the draw. Ox then comes on after the news and says Richmond had high ratings in their Ch 7 friday night games this year. Geez the AFL talk crap  ::).

yeh its all a bit contradictive hey.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 26, 2007, 06:38:31 PM
why is it again u people like this march fella. What exactly has he done.

It looks to me like he is too busy with his own personal interests to stand up for us in getting a better deal.

this draw is crap and i guarantee you with a president with a bit of balls we may have got a better deal

Presidents dont determine the draw, each club has a chance to express their wish list, do you know what the RFC actually submitted....i doubt it.

whether that gets met or not is up to the AFL, if you have a bitch have it against the MCC and the deal they did with the Woods.

for gods sake at the end of the day we as a team have to be able to play at any arena in any condition, stop looking for scapegoats especially the board, more in particular March and moreso Wright if it wasnt these two we would be in bigger strife.

yes the draw is disappointing but for christsake get behind the club and support it instead of at every opportunity trying to get stuck into.

im sure there are supporters from other clubs just as disappointed with their lot, until such time we have all teams play each other twice there will be inequaties in the draw.

 

no worries mate. support your team. i have been a member for 12 years and im not even 30 so before u mouth off get your facts right. i as a member is allowed to form a opinion but according to you thats not allowed.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 26, 2007, 06:42:09 PM
l be happy if no games are on channel 7
l cant stand watching games on that network its a shocking broadcast
wish Fox Footy was still on wouldnot have to listen to them dimwit commetators
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 26, 2007, 06:52:26 PM
The bloke from the AFL who does the draw was on SEN just before talking about us. He said we've got more MCG games next year as requested by the Club yet we had 12 games this year and get 12 again next year  ???.

Gillon McLaughlin you are a complete tool.

I hate him or than Vlad.  Dead set.
And Adrian "Mr fix it when it ain't broken" Anderson.

McLaughlin also said we didn't get any Friday games as the networks (in this case Ch 7) have their say in the draw. Ox then comes on after the news and says Richmond had high ratings in their Ch 7 friday night games this year. Geez the AFL talk crap  ::).

yeh its all a bit contradictive hey.
Yep. It's circular argument spin.

RFC: Why didn't we get any Friday night games?

AFL: You finished 16th and it's based on-field performance.

RFC: If it's based on on-field performance then why do/did the pioneers of Friday night football North Melbourne end up getting zip even when successful.

AFL: Oh because it comes down to crowds and ratings.

RFC: Yeah but our crowds and ratings were still large.

AFL: Yeah but you finished 16th and it's based on performance.

Round and round the AFL spins  ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 26, 2007, 06:56:35 PM
exactly & the reason being there got 2 dills running the show in wogboy & angry scrawny anderson  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 26, 2007, 07:04:08 PM
is it just me or ever since demetriou and anderson got in bed together and became in charge of the afl, that its all turned to poo.

 
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 26, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
is it just me or ever since demetriou and anderson got in bed together and became in charge of the afl, that its all turned to poo.

 
its not just you

this is th eproblem, these two have scat fetishes and love the art of rimming duringh their spare time
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on October 26, 2007, 09:03:05 PM
why is it again u people like this march fella. What exactly has he done.

It looks to me like he is too busy with his own personal interests to stand up for us in getting a better deal.

this draw is crap and i guarantee you with a president with a bit of balls we may have got a better deal

Presidents dont determine the draw, each club has a chance to express their wish list, do you know what the RFC actually submitted....i doubt it.

whether that gets met or not is up to the AFL, if you have a bitch have it against the MCC and the deal they did with the Woods.

for gods sake at the end of the day we as a team have to be able to play at any arena in any condition, stop looking for scapegoats especially the board, more in particular March and moreso Wright if it wasnt these two we would be in bigger strife.

yes the draw is disappointing but for christsake get behind the club and support it instead of at every opportunity trying to get stuck into.

im sure there are supporters from other clubs just as disappointed with their lot, until such time we have all teams play each other twice there will be inequaties in the draw.

 

no worries mate. support your team. i have been a member for 12 years and im not even 30 so before u mouth off get your facts right. i as a member is allowed to form a opinion but according to you thats not allowed.


this is not a case of mine is bigger than yours scenario sorry if my post had offended you in anyway that wasnt my intention, it was a general observation that there are few who no matter what our club does it can never win.

the afl draw will never please everyone all the time, as i said each club has a wish list which they submit and going by Steve Wrights comments some of ours have been met and some havent thats how it goes unfortunately.

as for mouthing off please, oh i was indoctrinated from the age of 4 my first ever game was the 69 grand final... as a member lets just say you can double your 12 years and then some if you want to be like that. :thumbsup 
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 26, 2007, 09:48:10 PM
haha Rogerd3 showing your age now
l was same age at same game with my dad  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 27, 2007, 06:06:46 AM
Essendon and St Kilda both get 5 Friday night games despite finishing in the bottom 8.

Every club is meant next year to get a minimum 10 free-to-air tv games. At a guess:

R1 Carlton
R7 St Kilda
R9 Essendon
R10 Sydney
R11 Adelaide
R13 Port
R14 Carlton
R17 Brisbane
R18 Geelong
R20 Hawthorn
R22 Melbourne
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: 2JD on October 27, 2007, 07:22:22 AM
the draw really does not matter, if we are good enough we will win most games, if we are not then we lose

we should not (like the pies)  rely on the draw to get us into finals, we dont want charity, we must earn it.

the interstate teams travel more than anyone, they dont complain about travelling.

the draw is the draw, until we become an elite top team we will never get looked after so we shoudl just put up and shut up and just play to win

the only f thing that peees me off is that we dont have a home ground

it was the g, but now we are in limbo

i just dont get it, ur home ground is ur home ground regardless how good or crap u r, thus we should be playing all our home games at the g



Totally agree, we should be able to win anywhere anytime and not rely on a favorable draw. Our home ground is the MCG and we should have all our home games there unless of course we want to sell one to Tassie or Port Hedland or Norfolk Island, you know, to try and build our supporter base ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: julzqld on October 27, 2007, 07:53:44 AM
Or Carrara  :pray
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 27, 2007, 09:12:01 AM
Essendon and St Kilda both get 5 Friday night games despite finishing in the bottom 8.

Every club is meant next year to get a minimum 10 free-to-air tv games. At a guess:

R1 Carlton
R7 St Kilda
R9 Essendon
R10 Sydney
R11 Adelaide
R13 Port
R14 Carlton
R17 Brisbane
R18 Geelong
R20 Hawthorn
R22 Melbourne

Not quite, our FTA games will be.

R1 Carlton
R3 Pies
R5 Dogs
R7 St Kilda
R8 Geelong
R9 Essendon

(Then 7 straight games on Fox, including our centenary match.  ::) )

R17 Brisbane
R18 Geelong
R19 Adelaide
R21 Freo
R22 Melbourne


Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Moi on October 27, 2007, 10:36:22 AM
The up side to a draw where you're playing everywhere is you become versatile on all surfaces.  And not like the Bombers who struggle when they leave the Dome.

Apart from that, that draw sucks big time.  How can they give us no prime time games on Friday - not one game?  I've counted how many games I'm going to this year and that's eight.  I just can't make the Sunday twilight games and some of the others  :banghead

So do I buy a membership?  I'll buy a normal membership, but will I buy my normal one.  Money doesn't grow on trees in this neck of the woods like it does in Tigermonk's  ::)

Dilemma  :help
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 27, 2007, 04:38:19 PM
I guess with the reward and recognition it's worth keeping the membership as a long-term member even if it's just a standard adult membership.

11 Sunday games because we miss out on Firday nights is over the top. The thing is we won two of our four Friday night games this year, got excellent crowds and rated well yet we miss out completely. Just AFL waffle. Laughable that Essendon gets 5 yet they finished bottom 5 and won as many games as we did in the second half of the year.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 28, 2007, 07:32:24 AM
tbh,

i hate friday night games, if we lose it destroys my weekend and it  is a pain in the neck getting to a friday night game from geelong after work

another thing, i dont mind sunday games, im actually happy we play many sunday games because it suits me fine and also allows my bro to go to many games as he works on saturdays

the only thing about the draw i hate is teh fact he have home games at the dome, thats it.

and re membership, i wil always renew my membership yr in yr out no matter how poo we are and how the draw is . the draw and our lack of success will never stop me getting a membership, only death will(quiet julz)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 28, 2007, 08:06:26 AM
The up side to a draw where you're playing everywhere is you become versatile on all surfaces.  And not like the Bombers who struggle when they leave the Dome.

Apart from that, that draw sucks big time.  How can they give us no prime time games on Friday - not one game?  I've counted how many games I'm going to this year and that's eight.  I just can't make the Sunday twilight games and some of the others  :banghead

So do I buy a membership?  I'll buy a normal membership, but will I buy my normal one.  Money doesn't grow on trees in this neck of the woods like it does in Tigermonk's  ::)

Dilemma  :help



hey my advice keep the membership even if its in the cheapest form as 8 years ago i didnt renew and had to start again. lost about 4 years
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Moi on October 28, 2007, 08:39:16 AM
and re membership, i wil always renew my membership yr in yr out no matter how pooh we are and how the draw is . the draw and our lack of success will never stop me getting a membership, only death will(quiet julz)
I didn't say I wouldn't buy a membership.  You're an absolute saint, X  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 28, 2007, 08:54:13 AM
i was playing poker with all the blokes last night and a few of em were saying things like why do it to yourself, give up. pee the membership off. never mate never.

aside from the fact im loyal its the only piece and quiet i get away from the mrs.

no poo boys she doesnt get into it so i get a free pass every week to hit the game, get on the pints, hit the local after and she wont say a word. not only that i even get her to pay for it as my valentines present for me.

its been 3 years now and and she still keeps buying em for me
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Tigermonk on October 28, 2007, 11:33:55 AM

So do I buy a membership?  I'll buy a normal membership, but will I buy my normal one.  Money doesn't grow on trees in this neck of the woods like it does in Tigermonk's  ::)

Dilemma  :help

Hey its not my fault you aint got a money tree
& as for buying a membership l'm passing on that next year
will use my freebies to get in to watch the poo games who needs money  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Mini Tiger on October 28, 2007, 02:26:19 PM
Reckon we should win about 8 games.

I would like to be a gold member this year, they are going to get something I would like to have, but what can you do.

I will get my 11 game membership as this last season, I reckon it could be Richo's last year, so want to get to as many home games as possible. I hate the dome though, but will probably go anyway.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: torch on October 28, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
i was playing poker with all the blokes last night and a few of em were saying things like why do it to yourself, give up. pee the membership off. never mate never.

aside from the fact im loyal its the only piece and quiet i get away from the mrs.

no pooh boys she doesnt get into it so i get a free pass every week to hit the game, get on the pints, hit the local after and she wont say a word. not only that i even get her to pay for it as my valentines present for me.

its been 3 years now and and she still keeps buying em for me



ROFL ... that is GOLD daniel161 !!! ... and i beat your mates have to pay there own memberships !!! ... good work !!! you 1 your mates 0 ...
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 28, 2007, 09:38:25 PM
Not quite, our FTA games will be.

R1 Carlton
R3 Pies
R5 Dogs
R7 St Kilda
R8 Geelong
R9 Essendon

(Then 7 straight games on Fox, including our centenary match.  ::) )

R17 Brisbane
R18 Geelong
R19 Adelaide
R21 Freo
R22 Melbourne
So none of our interstate games will be on FTA. Great! ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: tigersalive on October 28, 2007, 09:41:49 PM
Not quite, our FTA games will be.

R1 Carlton
R3 Pies
R5 Dogs
R7 St Kilda
R8 Geelong
R9 Essendon

(Then 7 straight games on Fox, including our centenary match.  ::) )

R17 Brisbane
R18 Geelong
R19 Adelaide
R21 Freo
R22 Melbourne
So none of our interstate games will be on FTA. Great! ::)
YEah real handy.  :lol  :banghead
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 29, 2007, 07:23:42 AM
and re membership, i wil always renew my membership yr in yr out no matter how pooh we are and how the draw is . the draw and our lack of success will never stop me getting a membership, only death will(quiet julz)
I didn't say I wouldn't buy a membership.  You're an absolute saint, X  ::)

hey grandma, did i say somewhere that you are not renewing your membership  ::)

all i said was that re memberships, no matter what i will always renew, i never said that you wouldnt.

get off the mull

and btw, dont be jealous of the monk, met him quite a few times, top bloke with more cash than many on here could dream of. but just because he is loaded , dosnt mean he is a tool, he is a top bloke and looks after his friends well  ;D

put it this way , i would rather be a friend to the monk, than not a friend to the monk
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on October 30, 2007, 04:26:54 AM
Club Free-To-Air Games

Collingwood 19
Geelong 18
St Kilda 16
Essendon 15
Carlton 14
Hawthorn 12
Richmond 11
Kangaroos 10
Melbourne 10
W Bulldogs 10
West Coast 9
Sydney 8
Adelaide 7
Fremantle 7
Brisbane 6
Port Adelaide 4

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22668979-21544,00.html
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: {X} on October 30, 2007, 06:23:57 AM
Club Free-To-Air Games

Collingwood 19
Geelong 18
St Kilda 16
Essendon 15
Carlton 14
Hawthorn 12
Richmond 11
Kangaroos 10
Melbourne 10
W Bulldogs 10
West Coast 9
Sydney 8
Adelaide 7
Fremantle 7
Brisbane 6
Port Adelaide 4

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22668979-21544,00.html

where is teh "fairness" in that!
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on October 30, 2007, 07:00:41 PM
where is teh "fairness" in that!
Pretty safe to say the draw isn't fair unless everyone plays everyone else H/A or the AFL brings in separate conferences. Of course neither will happen.

If we want a "fairer" draw ourselves then we're going to have to earn it ourselves by winning games.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on November 03, 2007, 11:09:21 PM
On SEN, they were talking about us playing the Dees at the Dome. Someone forgot to tell Andy D that last year a crowd of over 60,000 turned up at the 'G. Both clubs have one bad year and it's off to the Dome  ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on November 04, 2007, 12:13:38 AM
On SEN, they were talking about us playing the Dees at the Dome. Someone forgot to tell Andy D that last year a crowd of over 60,000 turned up at the 'G. Both clubs have one bad year and it's off to the Dome  ::).

60,086 Round 15 2006 Friday night both teams in the 8 as I recall at the G.
46,161 Round 12 2007 Us winless Dees 2 wins albeit only Vic game that weekend but proved these two can draw a crowd.
How about Round 22 1998 sure we have bad memories crowd was 76000.
Shows these two teams can draw at the G.
Why they schedule us at the Dome is beyond me. I say we rest Browny for that Melbourne game at the dome. Too many painful memories for him I am sure.

Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on November 04, 2007, 04:58:26 PM
On SEN, they were talking about us playing the Dees at the Dome. Someone forgot to tell Andy D that last year a crowd of over 60,000 turned up at the 'G. Both clubs have one bad year and it's off to the Dome  ::).

60,086 Round 15 2006 Friday night both teams in the 8 as I recall at the G.
46,161 Round 12 2007 Us winless Dees 2 wins albeit only Vic game that weekend but proved these two can draw a crowd.
How about Round 22 1998 sure we have bad memories crowd was 76000.
Shows these two teams can draw at the G.
Why they schedule us at the Dome is beyond me. I say we rest Browny for that Melbourne game at the dome. Too many painful memories for him I am sure.
Cheers HT74. When Browny went down it was one of the few games at the end where I didn't care about the result. Just felt numb instead. Hopefully this time around he can return in triumph and literally exorcise those demons  :thumbsup.

The AFL just think they can push us off to the Dome to fulfil their contractual obligations. They actually wanted us to play 4 home games there  ::) before we told them to get stuffed. If they were so concerned about allowing as many people go to the games as possible then why do we play interstate sides at the 'G yet Melbourne and St Kilda at the Dome. The AFL are full of it.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on December 21, 2007, 12:31:27 AM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: one-eyed on December 21, 2007, 12:34:21 AM
By the way here's Inside Football's NFL-like answer to the inequities of the draw. Thoughts?

2 Divisions (16 clubs)

Play same division clubs twice and the other division clubs once = 22 rounds

Bartlett Division

Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn, North, Sydney, Brisbane

Harvey Division

West Coast, Freo, Adelaide, Port, Geelong, St Kilda, Melbourne, Bulldogs
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on December 21, 2007, 07:02:16 PM
By the way here's Inside Football's NFL-like answer to the inequities of the draw. Thoughts?

2 Divisions (16 clubs)

Play same division clubs twice and the other division clubs once = 22 rounds

Bartlett Division

Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn, North, Sydney, Brisbane

Harvey Division

West Coast, Freo, Adelaide, Port, Geelong, St Kilda, Melbourne, Bulldogs


H Block have four interstate trips whereas B Block have 2 and off course the Pies will avoid going to Adelaide or Perth twice in the same year more than likely having to play the other division games mostly at home meaning we would get the short straw and have something horrific like consecutive trips interstate like this year. Inequities Inequities Inequities.
Play everyone twice sponsors are happy TV rights will increase no inequities in the draw and clubs don't have to slurp at the teet of Vladimir to get what they want.
Unless we become a successful consistent top 4 side that will be pushing for 40000+ members and we will play in front of crowds of 70000+ against the other big 4 teams from Vic as well as being part of sellout away matches at the dome against the lesser sides like North Dogs we will have our fair share of injustice in the draw. Without big crowds and success we have nothing to take to the bargaining table of the AFL when its time to discuss the intricasies of the draw. We are just seen merely as another Melbourne side and hence the hypocrisy of the Melbourne game at the dome with a capacity of 53K as opposed to the G with a capacity of 100K.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Fishfinger on December 21, 2007, 08:20:01 PM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).
Wouldn't be able to now without affecting memberships.
MCC - Tigers would be $130 for 2 games   , unless they could slip in premium seat entry for a TD away game. Was expensive enough for 3
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 21, 2007, 11:40:07 PM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).

In the AFL's official 2008 draw magazine thingee that's finally on sale for $10. It says the following regarding our round 12 Home clash against Melbourne (refer page 35)

"Richmond to play Melbourne at Telstra Dome because of a fixturing clash, with Collingwood-Carlton at the MCG. Both Melbourne and Collingwood require a siz-day break following the Queen's Birthday clash the previous Monday."

So let me get this straight ......

... in Round 12 Bulldogs get a home game at the MCG on the Saturday because Telstra is not available on the Sat but we have to play at the dome on the Sunday because Melb played on the Monday the round before   

... the AFL by their own admission in publication that I've quoted from spend a nearly 2 pages boasting about their new very expensive software that is supposed to aid the fixturing process but their wizz bang software spits out this crap in round 12     :wallywink :wallywink

What a surprise not   :wallywink
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: rogerd3 on December 21, 2007, 11:47:30 PM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).

yeh just finished ready todays daily...what the hell is going on here, considering we have been at the G longer than only melbourne we really get the short shift.

Mind you once the wheel turns they will be come knocking, we just have to make sure we return the favour to them. :gobdrop
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on December 22, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).
Wouldn't be able to now without affecting memberships.
MCC - Tigers would be $130 for 2 games   , unless they could slip in premium seat entry for a TD away game. Was expensive enough for 3
You're right FF but wouldn't the Roos game being moved affect Melbourne's 17-game membership. Suddenly an interstate away game becomes a ordinary away game at the 'G which would've and should've come under the Dees' 17-game membership.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on December 22, 2007, 07:47:50 PM
The AFL has moved the round 4 Kangaroos vs Melbourne game from the Gold Coast to the MCG yet our match against MCG co-tenants Melbourne remains at the Dome  ::).

In the AFL's official 2008 draw magazine thingee that's finally on sale for $10. It says the following regarding our round 12 Home clash against Melbourne (refer page 35)

"Richmond to play Melbourne at Telstra Dome because of a fixturing clash, with Collingwood-Carlton at the MCG. Both Melbourne and Collingwood require a siz-day break following the Queen's Birthday clash the previous Monday."

So let me get this straight ......

... in Round 12 Bulldogs get a home game at the MCG on the Saturday because Telstra is not available on the Sat but we have to play at the dome on the Sunday because Melb played on the Monday the round before   

... the AFL by their own admission in publication that I've quoted from spend a nearly 2 pages boasting about their new very expensive software that is supposed to aid the fixturing process but their wizz bang software spits out this crap in round 12     :wallywink :wallywink

What a surprise not   :wallywink

Yep WP it's just a load of crock. Remember we were asked by the AFL to have 4 Dome home games (Club rightly said no way). When it comes to the draw the RFC is an after-thought and until we start performing on-field we'll have to put up with this crap from the AFL admin ::)  :banghead.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 23, 2007, 05:17:15 PM
When it comes to the draw the RFC is an after-thought and until we start performing on-field we'll have to put up with this crap from the AFL admin ::)  :banghead.

Agree MT

It was a question asked at the AGM - why don't we get all our home games at the MCG. The answer was what it has always been but it was said once we start winning regularly, being in the fina's consistently we will get listened to more by the AFL.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: mightytiges on December 23, 2007, 11:24:56 PM
It was a question asked at the AGM - why don't we get all our home games at the MCG. The answer was what it has always been but it was said once we start winning regularly, being in the fina's consistently we will get listened to more by the AFL.
The irony is we'll probably have to get to another situation like against St Kilda in 2003 where our supporters are locked out of the Dome because it's full, before the AFL ever listens to us.
Title: Re: 2008 Draw
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 24, 2007, 04:48:40 PM
they will always treat us with this lack of respect until we start playing regular finals.

we have to earn it like all top teams