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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: bluey_21 on November 17, 2007, 03:59:33 PM
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B. Kingy Thursty Newman
HB McMahon Polak Bowden
C Polo Coughlan Edwards
HF Pettifer Richo M Morton
F Browny Schulz Lids
Foll. Simmo Foley Blingers
Inter. Patto, Connors, Johnson, C Morton/Cotchin
On the fringes of the first 22: Jack, Cass, Hughes, McGuane, Meyer, Raines
With this lineup i'd think we would be at the very least competitive
:gotigers
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The captain on the bench bluey ;).
Mine's not too different to yours bluey. I've wishful thinking got Joel forward and added McGuane.
B. Kingy Thursty McGuane
HB McMahon Polak Newman
C Johnson Coughlan Edwards
HF Pettifer Richo M Morton
F Browny Bowden Lids
Foll. Simmo Foley Blingers
Inter. Patto, Raines, Tuck, Jacko
Emg: Cotchin, Schulz, Polo
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B : King Thursty McGuane
HB : Johnson Polak McMahon
C : Newman Tuck Polo
HF : Pettifer Schulz Richo
F : Brown Bowden Edwards
FOLL : Simmo Foley Lids
Inter : Patto Raines Coughlan Jacko
Emerg : Conners Morton Blingers
Im with you MT, bowden up forward so the youthful key backs can make a name for themselves. Schulz to play true CHF roll with Richo running anywhere he likes.
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you see millions of these useless topics on another site. I thought this site had more sense :banghead
lets wait till we have our FINAL list!
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B McGuane Thursfield King
HB McMahon Polak J Bowden
C Johnson Polo Tuck
HF Pettifer Richo Edwards
F Morton Lids Brown
Foll Simmonds Foley Tambling
Int Patto Cogs Jackson Tivvers
Emerg Newman ???? Raines Schulz
I just realised can't fit Newman in the team as I think he is great but it does make me think will a full list and one where the majority of it is still developing and in their football infancy we have a very competitive side on paper.
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lets wait till we have our FINAL list!
We now have our FINAL list, so what's everyone's 08 lineup?
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
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B- Newman- Thursfield - Mc Guane
HB- Bowden - Polak - Mc Mahon
C- Johnson - Coughlan - Raines
HF- Pettifer - Schulz - Tambling
F- Brown - Richardson - Deledio
R- Simmonds - Tuck - Foley
INT- Patterson - Morton - Tivendale - King
EMERG - Cotchin - Jackson- Rance
maybe Jackson in for Tivers
I think we must leave Bowden back. The kids need him down there for the experience.
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welcome to OER Rex :thumbsup :cheers
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cheers B21 :cheers
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My lineup is still similar to my original one
B. Kingy Thursty Newman
HB McMahon Polak Bowden
C Cotchin Tambling Edwards
HF Pettifer Richo M Morton
F Browny Schulz Connors
Foll. Simmo Foley Lids
Inter. Patto, Johnson, Polo, Coughlan
On the fringes of the first 22: Jack, Cass, Hughes, McGuane, Meyer, Raines, Rance, Collard
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It's intersting looking at our oldest XXVIII:
Bowden Silvestre Moore
Newman Polak McMahon
Tivendale Coughlan King
Hyde Schultz Pettifer
Brown Richo Howat
Simmonds Johnson Tuck.
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B: Moore Thursfield King
HB: Bowden McGuane McMahon
C: Raines Newman Tambling
HF: Deledio Polak Petiffer
F: Brown Richardson Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Johnson Pattison Jackson Cotchin
Em: Connors, Coughlan, Polo
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B: Moore Thursfield King
HB: Bowden McGuane McMahon
C: Raines Newman Tambling
HF: Deledio Polak Petiffer
F: Brown Richardson Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Johnson Pattison Jackson Cotchin
Em: Connors, Coughlan, Polo
Cogs at 85% of his best deadset poos on the like of Raines and Jackson.
Cogs comeback is massive. If he can get back to his 2003 form (big call - but he is only 25) then I'll be so much more exicited for the future of this club.
In a perfect world he wins our bf this year and takes the captiancy next year.
Its along way away from that when he isnt even being named in our best 22 :(
Forza Mark Coughlan.
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forza..haha another wog on our hands. welcome aboard son
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Mine's not too different to before either. Moved Joel back to defence where he plays.
B Kingy Thursty McGuane
HB Bowden Polak Newman
C Raines Coughlan McMahon
HF Petts Richo Sugar
F Browny Lids Edwards
Foll. Simmo Foley Blingers
Inter. Patto, Tuck, Jacko, Cotchin
Emg: Morton, Schulz, Polo
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B: King Thursty Bowden
HB: McMahon McGuane Raines
C: Deledio Tuck Newman
HF: Brown Richo Tambling
F: Pettifer Polak Johnson
Foll: Simmonds Foley Coughlan
Inter: Patto, Morton, Polo, Tuck, Edwards
Emg: Connors, Riewoldt, Graham
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Wallace best 22?
B: Moore Bowden Bowden
HB: Newman Polak McMahon
C: Tivendale Coughlan Johnson
HF:Hyde Schultz Pettifer
F: Brown Richo Deledio
OB: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Howat* Silvester Pattison/Cartledge* King
Thursfeild Jackson Raines
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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B King Thursfield McGuane
HB Bowden Polak Newman
C McMahon Tuck Polo
HF Petts Richo Sugar
F Brown Lids Edwards
Foll. Simmonds Foley Tambling
Inter. Patto, Cotchin, Coughlan, Raines
Emg: Morton, Schulz, Connors, Tivendale
I must say I thought long and hard about finding a spot for Coughlan on the Bench, was very tempted to go with Morton, Tivendale or Connors
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Cogs at 85% of his best deadset poohs on the like of Raines and Jackson.
Cogs comeback is massive. If he can get back to his 2003 form (big call - but he is only 25) then I'll be so much more exicited for the future of this club.
In a perfect world he wins our bf this year and takes the captiancy next year.
Its along way away from that when he isnt even being named in our best 22 :(
Forza Mark Coughlan.
Each to their own.
We are yet to see how Coughlan recovers from his second reco.
Until then he'll have to force his way back into my team.
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Schultz would be ahead of Reiwoldt/Hughes/Gourdis in the eyes of the club - and first choice for the 2nd KP forward spot next to Richmond, I would think. (assuming Polak remains back).
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Schultz would be ahead of Reiwoldt/Hughes/Gourdis in the eyes of the club - and first choice for the 2nd KP forward spot next to Richmond, I would think. (assuming Polak remains back).
I think that's true but none of them are in my team. :-\
In saying that I really hope Sarge surprises everyone this year.
It'd make a huge difference to our team if he was able to hold down a key position in the seniors.
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Schultz would be ahead of Reiwoldt/Hughes/Gourdis in the eyes of the club - and first choice for the 2nd KP forward spot next to Richmond, I would think. (assuming Polak remains back).
In the eyes of the club, they must suffer from poor or impaired vision.
Schultz isnt in our best 22. Would be playing Reiwolldt and Hughes well before Schultz. One game doesnt make a career although it does at Punt Road ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Schultz would be ahead of Reiwoldt/Hughes/Gourdis in the eyes of the club - and first choice for the 2nd KP forward spot next to Richmond, I would think. (assuming Polak remains back).
In the eyes of the club, they must suffer from poor or impaired vision.
Schultz isnt in our best 22. Would be playing Reiwolldt and Hughes well before Schultz. One game doesnt make a career although it does at Punt Road ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
settle down :santa....lets see out 2007 and at least play a match before we start doing this :banghead
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b: king thursty bowden
hb: rance polak newman
c: mcmahon cog bling
hf: edwards richo jack
f: del sarge brown
foll: simmo cotch foley
int: patto polo conners morton
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B: Raines, Thursfield, Newman
HB: Bowden, Polak, McGuane
C: Polo, Deledio, Tambling
HF: Riewoldt, Richardson, Pettifer
F: Brown, Gourdis, Edwards
R: Simmonds, Foley, Coughlan
I: Johnson, Cotchin, Pattison, Tuck
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good to see that there are other players not in my team that i would have in there ...
ie: Connors, Rance, Schulz, King, McMahon, Morton, Jackson, Meyer
there will be fighting for positions in the team which is great !
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
yep, that statement reminded of Bill O'Reilly and his incessant lying :banghead
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forza..haha another wog on our hands. welcome aboard son
If the wogs ever got control of Richmond, Richmond would be a global superpower. The board needs to be run by greeks, italians and other high profile wogs.
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good to see that there are other players not in my team that i would have in there ...
Don't rate Jake King torch?
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If the wogs ever got control of Richmond, Richmond would be a global superpower. The board needs to be run by greeks, italians and other high profile wogs.
Salary cap? What's that? :shh
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
Fact/ Schultz was offered as trade, FACT!
Fact 2/ Brian Royal was on TV saying that Jay Schultz would need to ""come back"" to the fold knowing that he was offered as trade, FACT! Channel 9 had the story during trade week.
And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
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no offence to the aussies out there but if the rfc was run by ehtnics we would have won 4 flags since 1980.
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
Fact/ Schultz was offered as trade, FACT!
Fact 2/ Brian Royal was on TV saying that Jay Schultz would need to ""come back"" to the fold knowing that he was offered as trade, FACT! Channel 9 had the story during trade week.
And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
you are an idiot :scream
Port offered pick 28
we wanted pick 16 for our pick 18, and 28
They said no.
Gets your facts right before you start spinning poo
nothing worse than uninformed supporters lying to the richmond faithful. :banghead :banghead
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And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
One thing Jay isn't is soft.
How about getting behind him and hoping he does well rather than firing cheap shots.
Schulz is up against it but the club obviously thinks at 22, he still has a chance at making it.
I hope he kicks ass next year and shuts a few of his doubters right up.
If he doesn't then that's another story but he's still here so start supporting and leave the hatred at the door.
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
Fact/ Schultz was offered as trade, FACT!
Fact 2/ Brian Royal was on TV saying that Jay Schultz would need to ""come back"" to the fold knowing that he was offered as trade, FACT! Channel 9 had the story during trade week.
And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
you are an idiot :scream
Port offered pick 28
we wanted pick 16 for our pick 18, and 28
They said no.
Gets your facts right before you start spinning poo
nothing worse than uninformed supporters lying to the richmond faithful. :banghead :banghead
If port offered pick 28 we should of taken it, end of discussion.
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And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
One thing Jay isn't is soft.
How about getting behind him and hoping he does well rather than firing cheap shots.
Schulz is up against it but the club obviously thinks at 22, he still has a chance at making it.
I hope he kicks ass next year and shuts a few of his doubters right up.
If he doesn't then that's another story but he's still here so start supporting and leave the hatred at the door.
Didnt say Jay was soft, I hope he makes it, although I doubt it.
Had enough chances, and are we going to continue to give players repeated chances and put up with miniumal return?we have for the past 27 years, a few more years wont matter will it
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And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
One thing Jay isn't is soft.
How about getting behind him and hoping he does well rather than firing cheap shots.
Schulz is up against it but the club obviously thinks at 22, he still has a chance at making it.
I hope he kicks ass next year and shuts a few of his doubters right up.
If he doesn't then that's another story but he's still here so start supporting and leave the hatred at the door.
getting behind him. r u serious??????? we offered him a contract at the START of the season and you want us to get behind him.
no offence man but its comments like that which is one of the reasons why we are 27 years without a flag.
we r too soft on these wankers and im sick of putting up with players who dont give a ratz.
he is one of the softest players out there dont u worry about that. waste of our money
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Didnt say Jay was soft, I hope he makes it, although I doubt it.
My bad.
Didn't realise you were talking about Mcmahon.
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Thank you daniel. One of the few here who hasnt got impaired Vision.
It must of been those Dirty Dog sunglasses the club gave away a few years ago that has most posters with poor eye site. :lol
If we play Jay Schultz at Full Forward, that is little doubt it will be back to back spoons and the end of Wallet.
If he wants to survive, he leaves a young guy like Cleave Hughes there for at least 4-5 games in a row and see how he goes.
As for Blaisee having a go at me, go and look at Jay Schultz stats per game and then tell me where he sits on our list.
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
Fact/ Schultz was offered as trade, FACT!
Fact 2/ Brian Royal was on TV saying that Jay Schultz would need to ""come back"" to the fold knowing that he was offered as trade, FACT! Channel 9 had the story during trade week.
And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
you are an idiot :scream
Port offered pick 28
we wanted pick 16 for our pick 18, and 28
They said no.
Gets your facts right before you start spinning poo
nothing worse than uninformed supporters lying to the richmond faithful. :banghead :banghead
If port offered pick 28 we should of taken it, end of discussion.
they did fact
we didnt take it because he is worth more. so please stop spreading lies that no-one wanted him because more than 1 club did..FACT
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schulz worth more than 28?
give me the stuff your on please :rollin
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good to see that there are other players not in my team that i would have in there ...
Don't rate Jake King torch?
nahhh nahhh ... King is ok player ... i would have him in the team ... he will battle with other players ... thats my point !
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schulz worth more than 28?
give me the stuff your on please :rollin
Look, I'm not the Sargants biggest fan but I he is worth another year on the list at least. He has some good things to him but just doesnt do it enough. 22 yoa is still quite young for a KPP. He might still become handy - he isn't potentially to dissimilar to a Bradshaw.
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schulz worth more than 28?
give me the stuff your on please :rollin
Yep, I want a dose of it as well.
What are you people smoking, fair dinkum
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schultz playing for coburg, thats my lineup in a nutshell
I am amazed how many have had Schultz in our best 22.
Afraid to say, if Schultz gets a game, we will struggle big time.
Agree with Daniel , coburg for mine.
Keep in mind the club tried to trade him and nobody wanted him.
Schultz ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
another lie from jack
port offered a 2nd round pick and we rejected it
When are the lies gunna stop jack? ::)
Fact/ Schultz was offered as trade, FACT!
Fact 2/ Brian Royal was on TV saying that Jay Schultz would need to ""come back"" to the fold knowing that he was offered as trade, FACT! Channel 9 had the story during trade week.
And God help the RFC if we are relying on Jay Schultz.
Why wouldnt we accept a second round pick, especially when we gave a pick up for one of the softest players going around. ::)
Good luck with Jay
you are an idiot :scream
Port offered pick 28
we wanted pick 16 for our pick 18, and 28
They said no.
Gets your facts right before you start spinning poo
nothing worse than uninformed supporters lying to the richmond faithful. :banghead :banghead
If port offered pick 28 we should of taken it, end of discussion.
they did fact
we didnt take it because he is worth more. so please stop spreading lies that no-one wanted him because more than 1 club did..FACT
Schultz worth more ::)
Thats why the club finished on the bottom as we overate players, sorry Duds.!
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i thought u stuffed off jack
get over it or jump off the west gate
everyone is sick of ur pessimistic poo, we may have come last nut we still thumped ur beloved sheedy bumbers in their so special do it for sheeds and golden boy game
u r one bitter dick
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i thought u stuffed off jack
get over it or jump off the west gate
everyone is sick of ur pessimistic pooh, we may have come last nut we still thumped ur beloved sheedy bumbers in their so special do it for sheeds and golden boy game
u r one bitter dick
Elequont ain't he.
:cheers
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Schultz worth more ::)
Thats why the club finished on the bottom as we overate players, sorry Duds.!
Believe it or not young 22 year old key position players who can take a mark and kick a goal are a highly sort after commodity. Certainly more so than HBF receivers. ::)
Selection 28 in a well publicised weak draft is just as much of a gamble as retaining a talented yet underachieving KPP. Given the recent stats on that selection number's likely success, it's an even bigger risk.
It's rapidly running out for Jay but there is still time for him if he can:
a) Get the fitness required to play four quarters of football.
b) Wallace utilises him effectively up forward.
c) Our midfield begins to dominate.
All the talk about Hughes and Riewoldt being better options is completely unproven and pie in the sky stuff. Both whilst younger, look like third tall options to me and unlike Schulz IMO neither are capable of holding down a key position in the seniors at this stage although admitedly that may change in '08.
The club looked to trade Sarge and have sent a clear message.
He knows that this is his last chance at Richmond, if not the league and now knows exactly where he stands.
Also it has to be remembered that Schulz was contracted. We would have been paying his salary at Port for the next 12 months.
If he'd had been a success over there he would have left more egg on our faces than the Rodan situation.
IMO the club did the right thing in keeping him. Time will tell if that's correct.
I hope that they were.
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Selection 28 in a well publicised weak draft is just as much of a gamble as retaining a talented yet underachieving KPP. Given the recent stats on that selection number's likely success, it's an even bigger risk.
True Magic. Cartledge for instance was pick 28 in a weak draft before being delisted by the Bombers and now picked up by us as a rookie.
Also it has to be remembered that Schulz was contracted. We would have been paying his salary at Port for the next 12 months.
I thought exisiting contracts are transferred to the new club unless the player's old club agrees to pay part of the salary to get the trade done (like we did with Daffy and Holland).
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I thought exisiting contracts are transferred to the new club unless the player's old club agrees to pay part of the salary to get the trade done (like we did with Daffy and Holland).
Hmmm.. you could be correct MT. :-\
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I thought exisiting contracts are transferred to the new club unless the player's old club agrees to pay part of the salary to get the trade done (like we did with Daffy and Holland).
Hmmm.. you could be correct MT. :-\
It is correct, but its up to the clubs to negotiate accordingly.If my memory is right, we paid $160,000 of Ben Hollands yearly contact of $400,000 when we moved him on to Melbourne
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a) Get the fitness required to play four quarters of football.
b) Wallace utilises him effectively up forward.
c) Our midfield begins to dominate.
very true what you have said, for me, for schulz to succeed he needs to work better with Richo. People often criticise Schulz for running for the balls Richo goes for, but never bother to think it might be the other way around. Richo ain't a natural footballer, he is a kelpie with a sh!tload of energy who goes everywhere.
if richo can be utilised, like he was for a few games between the 50 metre arcs, and schulz isolated in the forward line it is a win win for everyone. Schulz becomes the focus point and doesn't have to worry about Richo getting in his way. Richo plays the role he was born to as a target for defenders coming out of defence, plus we don't have to see him kick for goal as often :gotigers
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a) Get the fitness required to play four quarters of football.
b) Wallace utilises him effectively up forward.
c) Our midfield begins to dominate.
very true what you have said, for me, for schulz to succeed he needs to work better with Richo. People often criticise Schulz for running for the balls Richo goes for, but never bother to think it might be the other way around. Richo ain't a natural footballer, he is a kelpie with a sh!tload of energy who goes everywhere.
if richo can be utilised, like he was for a few games between the 50 metre arcs, and schulz isolated in the forward line it is a win win for everyone. Schulz becomes the focus point and doesn't have to worry about Richo getting in his way. Richo plays the role he was born to as a target for defenders coming out of defence, plus we don't have to see him kick for goal as often :gotigers
I competely agree Bluey.
Richo demands the ball and commands the forwardline often to the detrement of the reat of the forwards. So many times this year and last, I saw played kick it to a leading Schulz only to have Richo cut across and collide with Jay to spill the ball.
Richo is not selfish nor silly but he is single minded and completely focused in his role. This is why he struggles to work with other forwards and why we rarely block, screen and make space for each other down in this area. If Jay was given room to lead and more assistance with creating space he would be a great forward for us.
Richo is one of the best marks in the AFl and has an engine that puts some midfielders to shame even at 32. If these qualities were utilized off the HFF or wing what a link player would he be. This would better link our backline and forwardline also and take Richo out of the forwardline which would automatically create uncertainity in the defenders and force our midfielders to look for the best forward options rather than always just 'kick it to Richo'.
Players like Schulz, Jack, Hughes and now Gourdis and Putt should be taught how to work for each other, lead to different areas, create space and screen other forwards defenders without always having to having to compete with Richo. It is as much about creating uncertainity and confidence in the young forwards as it is about preparing for the future.
At the moment we have been shoring up our backline and midfield but our forward structure remains relatively unchanged. This is something we can improve.
Stripes
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We need to find the next big forward. I am disappointed in Hughes who I always hoped would come up, he needs to lose the softness and get moving, Riewoldt is only a 3rd forward and Schulz is a way off still. If we dont see one of these 3 come through next season then we have to be looking for a key forward from next years trade or draft period.
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We need to find the next big forward. I am disappointed in Hughes who I always hoped would come up.
Calm down old boy. Hughes was drafted in 2005 and was only in his 2nd season last year. It's not as if Dowler, Kennedy, Clark have done that much either. Ryder looks alright, but Hughes would have looked handy playing in the Polak role in a back pocket. The ball was down both Richmond and Essendons backline a fair bit last year. Hughes showed some good signs I thought. When we got raped against Geelong he was one of our better players and a target @ CHF, kicking 3 goals. Also was effective against WCE the weak before.
He is still only 20.
Reiwoldt just turned 19. He might develop into a 'proper' KPP.
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Browny has been our only forward who consistently can team with Richo. He appears to be able to read Richo's mind when no one else can lol.
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Browny has been our only forward who consistently can team with Richo. He appears to be able to read Richo's mind when no one else can lol.
Because Browny has footy smarts.
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Browny has been our only forward who consistently can team with Richo. He appears to be able to read Richo's mind when no one else can lol.
Because Browny has footy smarts.
Morton, Edwards, Connors, Collard and co. do also. 8)
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Browny has been our only forward who consistently can team with Richo. He appears to be able to read Richo's mind when no one else can lol.
Agreed. Lids showed he might be able to as well but with respect they aren't key forwards.
The harsh reality is that Richardson is closer to the finish line than many care to think. I don't buy for a second that he has three or four years left in the tank and expect him to finish up at the end of '08 or injury free possibly '09. Father time is beckoning.
Wallace needs to work out life post Richo pretty quickly or their will be a gaping hole up front when the champ retires.
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yes and that hole aint gonna be filled by the likes of schultz, especially with his attitude.
if no one steps up in the next 12 months and richo goes end of this year we can look forward to a few more spoons.
we need to develop forwards and quick. none of this one game for burg then one game in the seniors. play them in the seniors and leave them there.
its the only way
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as great as richo has been l dont believe if he leaves that richmond wont cotinue to improve :shh
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The harsh reality is that Richardson is closer to the finish line than many care to think. I don't buy for a second that he has three or four years left in the tank and expect him to finish up at the end of '08 or injury free possibly '09. Father time is beckoning.
It would be great if Richo could go through the next 2 years injury free and reach 300 games.
When Richo finally does retire, our forward line won't be dominated by one KP forward which may finally force our mids to use their brains and spot up the best forward option instead of lazily and predictably kicking it in Richo's direction.
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It would be great if Richo could go through the next 2 years injury free and reach 300 games.
When Richo finally does retire, our forward line won't be dominated by one KP forward which may finally force our mids to use their brains and spot up the best forward option instead of lazily and predictably kicking it in Richo's direction.
Spot on. I love Richo with a passion, and I will miss him roaming around up forward, but the prospect of a forward line without him I find quite exciting.
Doesn't mean I want you to retire just yet Richo. Take your time ya big lug! :thumbsup
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Richo can go on for ages and i will have no qualms as long as he spends most of the time out of the attacking 50
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unlike a lot of people who i hear week in week out bagging the crap out of him in the stands, i really love this bloke. He is one player who i can honestly say gives his all week in week out. if only we had 21 players like him we would be top 8 most years. he plays with his heart on his sleeve unlike some others
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Richo Man !!!
I hope he continues and reaches 300 matches ...
but we need other Key Forwards to kick our goals ...
if we have Richo as a Half-Forward/CHF ... my god ...
that will be a tough forward line ...
Richo needs space to run as we all know ...
so HF is best with him ...
could you imagine ...
Richardson, "CHF", Brown - half forward line
just need 1 Key Forward ... Gourdis is the man !
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just need 1 Key Forward ... Gourdis is the man !
You're kidding.
By the time Gourdis gets up to speed Richo will be doing his farewell lap of honour.
My firm belief is that as long as Richo is contributing and not inhibiting he should play.
No more and no less.
TBH I could care less about the 300 game milestone unless he gets there on his merits.
I'd hate to see the great man go on a season too long for the sake of a few extra games to appease the fans.
Look how Jimmy Hird went out or Campbo for that matter. They knew when the time was right despite the fact that they were still contributing plenty. Buckley on the other hand stayed a year too long.
Richmond's team success is significantly more important than any personal milestones.
Our results next season will determine whether Richo goes on in '09 IMO.
If we struggle again, it might be the right time to go. :'(
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AFL Lineups 2008: Richmond
aflinsider.net
December 24th 2007
FB: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Jake King
HB: Joel Bowden, Alex Rance, Andrew Raines
C: Richard Tambling, Nathan Foley, Daniel Connors
HF: Jack Riewoldt, Graham Polak, Kane Johnson
FF: Nathan Brown, Matthew Richardson, Kayne Pettifer
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin
Bench: Adam Pattison, Shane Tuck, Shane Edwards, Mark Coughlan
Emergency: Jordan McMahon, Will Thursfield, Mitch Morton
2008 Predictions
Most goals: Matthew Richardson
Most possessions: Brett Deledio
Most marks: Jack Riewoldt
Ready for a breakout year: Jack Riewoldt
Fantasy AFL sleeper: Daniel Connors
Most Brownlow votes: Brett Deledio
http://www.aflinsider.net/afl-lineups-2008-richmond/
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Gee I think the emergencies are interesting.
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I think that they have no idea....
Thursfield and McMahon emergencies??
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I think that they have no idea....
Thursfield and McMahon emergencies??
esp seeing as it is an 08 lineup
rance is not ready to step straight into CHB and neither is Cotchin straight into an onball role ???
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I think Raines will struggle to cement a place in the 22 if last season was an indicator.
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i thought u stuffed off jack
we all hoped you had.........
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i thought u stuffed off jack
we all hoped you had.........
::) ::)
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not u idiot......lol
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FB King Thursfield Rance
HB Bowden Polak Newman
C McMahon Deledio Johnoson
HF Pettifer Richo Tambling
FF Brown Reiwolt Edwards
R Simmonds Foley Tuck
B Conners Pattison M.Morton Coughlan
E Raines jackson Cotchin
Backline:- Thursfield showed last year that he is more than capable of holding down fullback. He shows great speed off the mark and uses his long arms to spoil effectively. King was a revelation last year with showing terrific speed and defensive pressure while running the lines when rebounding from defence. The other back pocket position was a toss-up between Rance and McGuane. Although younger Rance has the size over McGuane. Id also like to see T.W to start builing a team and partnership between Rance and Thusfield considering they will be our long term KPB in the future.
Half Back line:-Polak this year must play CHB. He has to show a will to spoil when not in the position to mark. More importantly T>W must make him accountable. If Polak holds down CHB then it allows Bowden to play his natural sweeping game while using his attacking skills to deliver up forward. Newman is an outstanding player many seem to forget that he was coming back from a badly broken leg this year and did superbly. Never backs away from a contest and is a natural footballer.
Centre Line:- A good balance across here with Mcmahon Deledio and Johnson. Although soft Mcmahon does posses exemplary skills. Deledio has speed and lots of it. Id like to see him start in the guts early in the year. If he can learn to shake a tag he will become a true A Grader. On the other wing I chose Johnson. He doesn’t show the best skills but is a brilliant tagger that also has reasonable in and under skills.
Half Forward Line:- Pettifer is truly underrated he has improved immensely in the time under T.W. He is an excellent lead forward that consistently kicks goals. Richo is a Champion simple as that and shows no sign of slowing down. On the other HFF I chose Tambling. He was a little inconsistent this year but showed his true potential against west coast. This could be the year that he explodes onto the scene now that he has had a full preseason under his belt.
Forward line:- Brown could get back to his best this year expect goals from this little freak im guessing 50+.
You don’t normally expect anything to much from a 2nd year KPP but there is something special about him. Has shown enough at VFL level to warrant this selection. Edwards is an excitement machine expect to see him as a permanent crumbing forward this year with bursts in the middle and on a wing.
Rucks:- Simmonds will hopefully regain full fitness and recapture his 2006 form. When fit is one of the premier ruckmen in the comp. Foley as we all know exploded onto the scene and was extremely close to all Australian selection. He is a tireless worker who puts in 150% each week. Tuck is a clearance player although he does not posses the best skills around. Can also go forward and kick goals.
:gotigers
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Great first post - very thorough and thoughtout. Welcome to the board.
Here's my team -
FB King Thursfield McGuane/Rance
HB Bowden Polak McMahon
C Newman Deledio Coughlan
HF Pettifer Richo Lids
FF Brown Reiwolt Tambling
Foll Simmonds Foley Tuck/Cotchin
Bench - Connors Pattison Johnson/Jackson M.Morton
Emergenices (from): Raines Jackson Cotchin/Tuck Rance/McGuane Edwards
Please note that the '/ ' differientiate between first half of the season and second. For example I have McGuane down to play in the back pocket for the first part of the season to be replaced by Rance (assuming Rance has shown enough playing for Coburg by this stage) in the later part of the season.
Most of the second names are young up and coming stars I would love to see develop in these positions for the future. Whether this season is the right time to give them the responsibility or next is debatable and really depends on how we are progressing as a team at that stage of the year.
Johnson, Tuck and Raines I have not included for three completely different reasons.
Johnson because he had such a poor season in 07 and seems to be lacking the skill, fitness level and confidence to compete for his place against the young brigade let alone be our captain. Harsh I know and an unlikely senerio given his rank but a valid one in my opinion. We'll see him in the starting line up for sure regardless.
Tucky is brave, uncompromising and a strong in and under player. Everything Cogs is but minus the skill level. Tucky just doesn't have the delivery skills which TW is looking for in the midfield. He will be fighting for his place in team against son many young stars.
Raines was shown up as a one trick pony last year and his burst, run and carry from the backline became a weakness rather than a strength. He was run down, blocked and stripped of the ball and I can't tell you the amount of times he had the ball and the crowd scremed at him to pass it off. He looked like a deer in headlights most of the year and lacked the confidence, vision and decision-making skills that he potentially revealed in 06. I hope he comes good but with players like Rance, McMahon, Moore, McGaune and even Gourdis showing more poise, skill and most importantly pace and size he may find it hard to retain his position. He better hope Kingy has an off year nad a few midfielders fall over or he may not even get a chance.
Stripes
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Great first post - very thorough and thoughtout. Welcome to the board.
Here's my team -
FB King Thursfield McGuane/Rance
HB Bowden Polak McMahon
C Newman Deledio Coughlan
HF Pettifer Richo Lids
FF Brown Reiwolt Tambling
Foll Simmonds Foley Tuck/Cotchin
Bench - Connors Pattison Johnson/Jackson M.Morton
Emergenices (from): Raines Jackson Cotchin/Tuck Rance/McGuane Edwards
Please note that the '/ ' differientiate between first half of the season and second. For example I have McGuane down to play in the back pocket for the first part of the season to be replaced by Rance (assuming Rance has shown enough playing for Coburg by this stage) in the later part of the season.
Most of the second names are young up and coming stars I would love to see develop in these positions for the future. Whether this season is the right time to give them the responsibility or next is debatable and really depends on how we are progressing as a team at that stage of the year.
Johnson, Tuck and Raines I have not included for three completely different reasons.
Johnson because he had such a poor season in 07 and seems to be lacking the skill, fitness level and confidence to compete for his place against the young brigade let alone be our captain. Harsh I know and an unlikely senerio given his rank but a valid one in my opinion. We'll see him in the starting line up for sure regardless.
Tucky is brave, uncompromising and a strong in and under player. Everything Cogs is but minus the skill level. Tucky just doesn't have the delivery skills which TW is looking for in the midfield. He will be fighting for his place in team against son many young stars.
Raines was shown up as a one trick pony last year and his burst, run and carry from the backline became a weakness rather than a strength. He was run down, blocked and stripped of the ball and I can't tell you the amount of times he had the ball and the crowd scremed at him to pass it off. He looked like a deer in headlights most of the year and lacked the confidence, vision and decision-making skills that he potentially revealed in 06. I hope he comes good but with players like Rance, McMahon, Moore, McGaune and even Gourdis showing more poise, skill and most importantly pace and size he may find it hard to retain his position. He better hope Kingy has an off year nad a few midfielders fall over or he may not even get a chance.
Stripes
FB King Thursfield McGuane
HB Bowden Polak McMahon
C Newman Coughlan Raines
HF Pettifer Richo Lids
FF Brown Schulz Tambling
Foll Simmonds Tuck Foley
Bench - Pattison Johnson Jackson M.Morton
Emergenices (from): Cotchin Rance Edwards
Raines will play. Will benefit from previous seasons failings and moving up to the centre line will see others having to tag him instead of other way round. Johno, too experienced to leave out (can tag well) Schulz big bodied, strong hands, good kick. Richo to play outside 50 will help Schulz. Tucky will not lose his spot (too tough).
By the way Stripes Lids is good but wont have to line up in the Centre and HFF at the same time(oversight I know :))
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Round 1
B King Thursfield Moore
HB McMahon Schulz J Bowden
C Tambling Newman Morton
HF Petiffer Polak Deledio
F Brown Richardson Edwards
R Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Johnson, Cotchin, Jackson, Pattison
E: Raines, Tivendale, Polo
- Moore gets a jumper on the back of some good form. I like him more than McGuane.
- Schulz at CHB which is a bit of a surprise but can't be any worse defensively than Polak. He is strong & has good skills for a big man. Stamina is the question. Bowden & McMahon provide the run.
- Newman in the centre. Morton on the wing.
- Polak to CHF. Need to utilise those mits up front. Deledio & Edwards new additions up front also.
- Coughlan needs match fitness and can find it at Coburg. Connors & Riewoldt in line if they shown form.
Main focus of this team is to utilise good footskills around HB and the centreline. Wallaces gameplan will be built around attack and feeding the marking forwards.