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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 03, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
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VFL Round 9
Werribee Tigers vs Coburg Tigers
Sunday 8th June @ Bartercard Oval, Werribee
Ressies: 11:10 AM
Seniors: 2:00 PM
Note: No radio or tv broadcast
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Coburg team -v- Werribee:
Coburg Tigers
B: Horne Silvester Oakley-Nicholls
HB: Rance McErlain N. Caruso
C: Hyde Carnell Howat
HF: Connors Hughes Collins
F: Morton Riewoldt F. Caruso
R: Cartledge Jackson Shelton
Int: Keogh Rayson Collard
Polo Liddle Currie
Corr Graham
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Coburg will be happy to see their 13 goal combo back in Jack and Morton.
Good to see Collard named in the firsts. Hopefully he gets a game.
Rainesy must be in the ressies with Putt, Meyer, Gourdis and Cass?
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I like that half forward line-up :thumbsup
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I like that half forward line-up :thumbsup
If they fire and the senior HF line doesn't, anyone of them could find themselves playing against Melbourne next week.
Not sure why Polo is named on the bench btw after 3 decent VFL games straight ???.
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Well lets get on Coburg for todays game & who is going to grasp the chance to get picked next week
hope their are many supporters down there they can text back some scores for us
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Well lets get on Coburg for todays game & who is going to grasp the chance to get picked next week
hope their are many supporters down there they can text back some scores for us
Indeed, hopefully Jack, Morton and Hughes can all kick 3+ goals and kick Petts and Tivs out of the side for good and be able to give Richo a spell next week for a decent rest. :thumbsup
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l'm really hanging out to see Hughes get back into the side & given some games in a row on the field & not the bench to see if he can really take it on, his got a huge kick
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2008 VFL Reserves
Werribee Tigers 3.5 6.6 6.8 10.9 (69)
Coburg Tigers 3.6 10.11 13.19 20.23 (143)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Jordan 4 Casserly 3 Jones 3 Clifton 2 De Sousa 2 Putt 2 Groves Rayson Currie Carrick
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Foster Carrick Jordan Casserly Jones Cattapan
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Werribee Tigers: Nil
Coburg Tigers: R. Trajkovski for striking M. West
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WP said Raines, Putt, Casserly, Meyer and Gourdis played Coburg ressies.
So that means Collard is in the seniors.
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Quarter time
Coburg 7.6-48
Werribee 1.1-7
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Jack's got a couple. 3 goals thinks WP :thumbsup.
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Jack's got a couple. 3 goals thinks WP :thumbsup.
Excellent., :clapping
Go Burgers! :gotigers
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Half-time
Coburg 7.6 9.8-62
Werribee 1.1 5.3-33
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says alot about the Richmond players in the reserves like Raines, Meyer, Gourdis not getting in the best players
Meyer is finished, & Raines well if he can go into damage mode in that grade than trade him home to Gold Coast
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Bests so far:
JON - very good.
Jack.
Jacko but he's now off injured with a corked calf.
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says alot about the Richmond players in the reserves like Raines, Meyer, Gourdis not getting in the best players
Meyer is finished, & Raines well if he can go into damage mode in that grade than trade him home to Gold Coast
Coburg ressies are undefeated and are winning by 12+ goals every week so they probably could fit 18 blokes into the bests.
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Jacko is okay. Back on the ground now.
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3/4 time
Coburg 7.6 9.8 12.16-88
Werribee 1.1 5.3 6.5-41
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can they win the last 1/4 :pray
Hows Hughes going
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From WP:
No breeze
Collard very good that quarter.
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Hows Hughes going
From WP:
"Not his best. Kicked 3 I think. Lining up. Kicked it."
So I guess that makes 4 from Clever.
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Hyghes >:( what about Hughes >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D
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Hows Hughes going
From WP:
"Not his best. Kicked 3 I think. Lining up. Kicked it."
So I guess that makes 4 from Clever.
:thumbsup :bow go Big Cleve
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Patience TM :lol
Another txt from WP:
"Rance super game"
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Final Score
Coburg 7.6 9.8 12.16 14.19-103
Werribee 1.1 5.3 6.5 10.6-66
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Patience TM :lol
Another txt from WP:
"Rance super game"
debut next week please ;D
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Patience TM :lol
Another txt from WP:
"Rance super game"
debut next week please ;D
Was his performance good enough to be an In for Willy T ?
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WP Bests:
Polo, Rance, Collard, Silvester and JON.
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Patience TM :lol
Another txt from WP:
"Rance super game"
debut next week please ;D
Was his performance good enough to be an In for Willy T ?
From WP:
"No imo needs 2 do that 4 a few weeks."
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2008 VFL Seniors
Werribee Tigers 1.1 5.3 6.5 10.6 (66)
Coburg Tigers 7.6 9.8 12.16 14.19 (103)
GOALS:
Werribee Tigers: Podsiadly 4 Henderson 2 Saker Kennedy-Hunt Young Castello
Coburg Tigers: Hughes 5 Riewoldt 4 Caruso Collins Howat Graham Collard
BEST:
Werribee Tigers: Rockefeller Greenwood Chisholm Henderson Podsiadly Young
Coburg Tigers: Polo Rance Collard Howat Oakley-Nicholls Graham
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
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nice win Coburg
in next week Hughes, Polo, Graham, Rance, Collard
out Pettifer, Tivendale, Thursfield, Simmonds, Edwards
give the young cubs a run, we got nothing to lose, our season is over & we wont make the finals
l want to see some new players :thumbsup
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Coburg Tigers: Polo Rance Collard Howat Oakley-Nicholls Graham
All Tiger listed players :thumbsup
Polo surely gets a game this week. Oakley Nicholls deserves one as well.
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nice win Coburg
in next week Hughes, Polo, Graham, Rance, Collard
out Pettifer, Tivendale, Thursfield, Simmonds, Edwards
give the young cubs a run, we got nothing to lose, our season is over & we wont make the finals
l want to see some new players :thumbsup
I absolutely agree on all five points-let's not play favourities any more :invasion
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nice win Coburg
in next week Hughes, Polo, Graham, Rance, Collard
out Pettifer, Tivendale, Thursfield, Simmonds, Edwards
give the young cubs a run, we got nothing to lose, our season is over & we wont make the finals
l want to see some new players :thumbsup
Leave Edwards in, drop McMahon, put Pettifer on the long term injured list like the Saints did with Gehrig.
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No Morton in the goalkickers - interesting was he playing more of a midfield role or was he heavily tagged ?
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
Maybe he thought he might be demoted to the seniors :ROTFL
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
I'll take that as he was vital in setting up the win then as it was as good as over at quarter time. Done it when it counted. :thumbsup
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
Just wondering how a bloke can kick four and not get in the best, thanks
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
and that is the whole problem with the selection debarcle :banghead
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
Its not about favourites its about who can play. I thought his demotion to Coburg after the North game was harsh. Yet blokes like Petts and McMahon retain their place. It boggles the mind and shows a lack of regard for those that actually want to succeed at the club on field not just speak about it when a camera is in their face on a Tuesday at Punt Rd. :whistle
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
Its not about favourites its about who can play. I thought his demotion to Coburg after the North game was harsh. Yet blokes like Petts and McMahon retain their place. It boggles the mind and shows a lack of regard for those that actually want to succeed at the club on field not just speak about it when a camera is in their face on a Tuesday at Punt Rd. :whistle
Mate , I told you about Wallace and everyone on here laughed at me saying I was a disgruntled employee and I should get over it. ::)
Wallace plays favorites, just ask David Rodan,.
Whats even more funnier is that its obvious I know Wallet well and people on here dont know him reckon he is god.
Terry is for Terry, never forget that
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
I think we've got that and I think it took Jack a while to be liked enough to get a game and I wonder what Collins has done to be continually stunted by being put back in the Coburg ressies after being in the best and doing everything right but not getting a game. :lol :-\
Wholesale changes this week if this has any balls.
Sounds like at least 6 kids put their hands up today. Let's honour their effort. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Connors isnt on his Christmas list either :shh ;)
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Connors isnt on his Christmas list either :shh ;)
Of course McMahon provides all the skill poise hardness toughness creativity and accountability required to play off the half back line. Its going to be impossible for Daniel to break into the side that way. Connors may as well line up in the ruck if he wants a senior game despite his good showing in 4 games last year. :banghead
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Cleve isnt a favorite of Wallet ;)
Its not about favourites its about who can play. I thought his demotion to Coburg after the North game was harsh. Yet blokes like Petts and McMahon retain their place. It boggles the mind and shows a lack of regard for those that actually want to succeed at the club on field not just speak about it when a camera is in their face on a Tuesday at Punt Rd. :whistle
Mate , I told you about Wallace and everyone on here laughed at me saying I was a disgruntled employee and I should get over it. ::)
Wallace plays favorites, just ask David Rodan,.
Whats even more funnier is that its obvious I know Wallet well and people on here dont know him reckon he is god.
Terry is for Terry, never forget that
some people are still in denial about TW's worth to our club and that is so funny.
he is for himself and thats why jordy wont get dropped cause he would rather play him than drop him and look like a fool for drafting him.
wallace is for the tip
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I think we've got that and I think it took Jack a while to be liked enough to get a game and I wonder what Collins has done to be continually stunted by being put back in the Coburg ressies after being in the best and doing everything right but not getting a game. :lol :-\
Collins played for Coburg Seniors today, he was only put back to the reserves to get a game after being made available as an emergency for Richmond
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I think we've got that and I think it took Jack a while to be liked enough to get a game and I wonder what Collins has done to be continually stunted by being put back in the Coburg ressies after being in the best and doing everything right but not getting a game. :lol :-\
Collins played for Coburg Seniors today, he was only put back to the reserves to get a game after being made available as an emergency for Richmond
Hmm no I'm thinking two weeks before that around about, got praise on OER and Y&B (obviously not on the selection panel but was good support for Collins' game all round, and for a very nice performance in the seniors, somehow played ressies the very next week. :-\
It's all conspiracies but there are some strange selection decisions that get made in the land of the Tiger. :(
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
Might want to recheck your mail Jack. Cleve kicked one in the last if you re-read WP's txt messages in this thread ;).
Connors isnt on his Christmas list either :shh ;)
Yep because Daniel not playing seniors has nothing to do with him having virtually no preseason thanks to a broken ankle/foot :whistle.
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The most pleasing thing is so many of our cubs were named in the bests and Jack and Cleve were in the goals. Good to see Tigers putting their hand up and at least providing some pressure for spots from below.
Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
Might want to recheck your mail Jack. Cleve kicked one in the last if you re-read WP's txt messages in this thread ;).
Connors isnt on his Christmas list either :shh ;)
Yep because Daniel not playing seniors has nothing to do with him having virtually no preseason thanks to a broken ankle/foot :whistle.
Hey MT, forget the "'whistling ""sunshine, can tell you that Connors was right to go before the Freo game, plough was going to play him the following week, was promised the next game at the dome. Playing mind games, kid is peeed off.
Should be a walk up start this week you would think. But Nah, it wont happen as they man they call the coach has little idea, the solarium has fried his brains and his coaching career,l lol
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
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either can I, dont worry Daniel, the end is near, thank god
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either can I, dont worry Daniel, the end is near, thank god
round 12 next week?
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
I do.
Though beyond 2009 depends on the state of our list, whether we make the finals and our team dynamics/game style. If he can tick each of these boxes them I will be happy for the Tigers to extend his contract but if I can not see any improvement next year then I will jump on the 'Sack TW bandwagon' then.
Stripes
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
I do.
Though beyond 2009 depends on the state of our list, whether we make the finals and our team dynamics/game style. If he can tick each of these boxes them I will be happy for the Tigers to extend his contract but if I can not see any improvement next year then I will jump on the 'Sack TW bandwagon' then.
Stripes
State of our list- Well we need some defensive KPP'S and mental toughness in our midefielders and the rest of the team. Develop Jack and Clever so we may have a nucleus there but they aren't being coached in the right way nor are kids waiting in the wings given the opportunity. No tick there
Finals appearances - that's 2 in 26 years this year since 1982 and 0-4 under Wallace. Fair to say we won't next year and the points you have raised Stripes and I will talk about will add validity. So no tick there either.
Team dynamics- Despite the so called improvement earlier in the year we still have a great tendency to drop our heads when we are exposed and not fight and fight. Confidence can get shot too easily and the fabric/culture of the club both on and off field with regards to the playing list has not improved under Terry's tenure either. Dogs Pies and Hawks all finished in the bottom 4 with us in 2004. All teams could finish in the top 4 this year and we will still be wallowing if not bottom then somewhere in the bottom 4. Paints a stark picture when they all were recruiting kids and playing them in the positions they got them to fill in the first place whereas Terry is trying to turn on ballers into HFF and what nots whilst others wallow at Coburg 2nds and Coburg week in week out whilst others who can;t play at all get selected. The mind boggles but no tick there either.
Game Style- Yes 15 metre chip kicks to nobody. Turnovers lack of accountability. Sure players can have bad habits due to concentration or lack of but when these continually occur then responsibility also must fall with the coaching staff who fail to identify it and rectify it on the track and in the classroom. Furthermore slowing the game down helps nobody when all the good sides that will challenge this year move the footy like grease lighning to forward targets. We've had a monster in Richo for 15 years and for most of that time the ball has gone in with the pace of a sloth on roller skates. Can we all imagine with a sound fast paced game plan and Richo what we could have achieved? Not attractive to look at and even less attractive and more galling when you implement it for part of a game only to do an about face and watch the opposition do it properly as was the case on Saturday. No tick there either.
Its time for Terry to go and take his Marshmallow sidekick with him. The sooner the better.
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Couldnt have done better there HT74, great post.
Problem we have is that Gary March thinks Terry is doing a great job.
Lose next week and battern down the hatches.
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I have been away for the weekend.
Can anybody tell me how young Rhett Jordon looked playing for Coburg seconds?
:thumbsup
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
I don't care who said what. Connors wasn't fit enough to play AFL. FACT! He has the talent to play midfield but even at Coburg he plays mainly back or forward pocket. Give him a full preseason over next summer and he'll shine next year.
Yep Knighter knew exactly where he stood with Spud. Copped the brunt of the blame for us losing successive games and was forced by Spud into retirement midseason. Benny Gale was another forced out. Btw Spud didn't/wouldn't play kids because he wouldn't draft them in the first place ::).
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Go and ask some of the leadership group what they think of Wallet.
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Mate, I am sick of to death of Wallace and his crap.
So you will hear more soon. I can assure you
Can tell you he promsied Connors a game, rightfully or wrongfully he did.
Interesting next week, win, and Wallace will say we are back on track or some crap like that , lose and its all over for him soonner than you think.
I wonder if the ""spitter "" will return to do the dome next week. Can only hope , lol
MT, one thing you fail to realise, we are the laughing stock of the AFL, you think different and thats cool.
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Team dynamics- Despite the so called improvement earlier in the year we still have a great tendency to drop our heads when we are exposed and not fight and fight. Confidence can get shot too easily and the fabric/culture of the club both on and off field with regards to the playing list has not improved under Terry's tenure either. Dogs Pies and Hawks all finished in the bottom 4 with us in 2004. All teams could finish in the top 4 this year and we will still be wallowing if not bottom then somewhere in the bottom 4. Paints a stark picture when they all were recruiting kids and playing them in the positions they got them to fill in the first place whereas Terry is trying to turn on ballers into HFF and what nots whilst others wallow at Coburg 2nds and Coburg week in week out whilst others who can;t play at all get selected. The mind boggles but no tick there either.
Top post :thumbsup its exactly what is going down, clubs have drafted & rebuilt without problems & are the guns of the competition while we lag behind once again without any glory & the same old problems arising year after year
l want Wallace, Royal, Rawling, King & whoever else teaching this crap out of punt rd before l ever give another $ to the club for membership or whatever, times are changing
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and I am also not interested in posters saying about the age spread of players etc. We all seen with our own eyes what a player like Cotchin can do, with no pre season and 4 games, he has already passed Tambling.. Richie Tambling has done all the hard pre season, trained the place down and bascially cant play.
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so true tambling is a shadow of the player cotch is.
if we r lucky tambling might be 50% as good as daniel wells and thats really sad with what we have invested in him..
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
I do.
Though beyond 2009 depends on the state of our list, whether we make the finals and our team dynamics/game style. If he can tick each of these boxes them I will be happy for the Tigers to extend his contract but if I can not see any improvement next year then I will jump on the 'Sack TW bandwagon' then.
Stripes
State of our list- Well we need some defensive KPP'S
Def KPP? I don't see this as our great problem.
Thursfield (22) & Rance (18) I rate.
- Schultz (23), Moore (24), McGaune (21), Gourdis (18), Polak (23).
Quite young crop.
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2008 VFL Seniors
Werribee Tigers 1.1 5.3 6.5 10.6 (66)
Coburg Tigers 7.6 9.8 12.16 14.19 (103)
GOALS:
Werribee Tigers: Podsiadly 4 Henderson 2 Saker Kennedy-Hunt Young Castello
Coburg Tigers: Hughes 5 Riewoldt 4 Caruso Collins Howat Graham Collard
BEST:
Werribee Tigers: Rockefeller Greenwood Chisholm Henderson Podsiadly Young
Coburg Tigers: Polo Rance Collard Howat Oakley-Nicholls Graham
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
Hughes & Reiwoldt kicking goals.
Polo, Rance, Collard, JON in best.
Thank Geez.
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
I do.
Though beyond 2009 depends on the state of our list, whether we make the finals and our team dynamics/game style. If he can tick each of these boxes them I will be happy for the Tigers to extend his contract but if I can not see any improvement next year then I will jump on the 'Sack TW bandwagon' then.
Stripes
State of our list- Well we need some defensive KPP'S
Def KPP? I don't see this as our great problem.
Thursfield (22) & Rance (18) I rate.
- Schultz (23), Moore (24), McGaune (21), Gourdis (18), Polak (23).
Quite young crop.
Polak and Schulz, your dreaming :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol both have been in the system for a long time and still cant play, should be both joining Tivs at Coburg
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:whistle :whistle :whistle MT in love with Terry Wallace :whistle :whistle :whistle
i cant imagine anyone on this forum would seriously think TW is the man to lead us into 2009
I do.
Though beyond 2009 depends on the state of our list, whether we make the finals and our team dynamics/game style. If he can tick each of these boxes them I will be happy for the Tigers to extend his contract but if I can not see any improvement next year then I will jump on the 'Sack TW bandwagon' then.
Stripes
State of our list- Well we need some defensive KPP'S
Def KPP? I don't see this as our great problem.
Thursfield (22) & Rance (18) I rate.
- Schultz (23), Moore (24), McGaune (21), Gourdis (18), Polak (23).
Quite young crop.
Polak and Schulz, your dreaming :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol both have been in the system for a long time and still cant play, should be both joining Tivs at Coburg
1 month ago Schultz was 22. Polak 23.
Tivs is nudging 30. Talls players generally are not good stright away.
Getting rid of former 1st round KPP in their early 20s is not going to solve any problems.
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polak another product of greg miller.
looks a spent force already. plays like a old man who cant move.
goodbye say hi to tivers for me..
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
Cant have it both ways retards.
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
Cant have it both ways fools.
Its simple ,he cannot coach
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Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
:gobdrop Wow - earth shattering that ::)
And he didbnt kick another one until the final quarter.
Tried hard.
Was super impressed with Rance. But needs to string a few like yesterday together.
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
Cant have it both ways fools.
i am deeply offended, where have i ever mentioned the word tank !
you are a pathetic little man, and size matters!
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Mail is that Cleve kicked 4 in the first quarter and then was quiet
:gobdrop Wow - earth shattering that ::)
Its was two peoples opinions, both opposition scouts from other clubs.
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
Cant have it both ways fools.
Do it the way Carltank did it last year. Have the pressure build up when we lose to Melbourne. Then lose to Carlton in our centennary then in the Port game get blown away by 20 goals that should get the board holding an emergency meeting and sacking the solarium boy on the Tuesday. Even Blind Freddie or whoever will be the new coaching apointee will know straight away that losing the remainder 7 or 8 games is what the club must do to go forward in terms of solidifying and stablilising your list going forward and trying to fill the gaps in our list. Blues did it last year as much as we hated it and we must do it this year no ifs and buts. That way we can have it both ways. Tank and get rid of Terry b/c as long as Terry is here and feeling the heat he may try to coach us to a win which will mean sweet FA ultimately to him to the club and to the fans in a desperate and vain attempt to hang on to his job.
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exactly MT.
our only hope is for TW to walk.
while he is there he will try everything to beat minnows melbourne, freo and the blues, because his job is at stake and he knows it..
its a sad sad day when i walk into the dome next week not caring what the score is but thats how i feel and thats the system
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LOL resorting to childish comments because you can't handle a couple of simple FACTS that contradicted what you claimed :rollin. Funny how you're so obsessed over Wallace you need to bring him into every topic when what I just said had nothing to do with him. Call me what you want Jack, I can tell you Connors was nowhere ready for senior footy due to a lack of match fitness whatever you want to say :sleep. Morton, Jack, etc should never have been dropped for the same olds but Connors was running out of puff even at training FFS. But hey let's not FACTS get in the way of "mail" ::).
Not childish at all. The kid was told he would get a game and he hasnt,end of story, dont bleed if he ends up at another club and does a dave rodan..
Not obsessed with Wallace either, just know after sitting behind him for 2 years he isnt the answer, end of discussion We will never climb the ladder with him. I rather have spud, at least you know where you stood, player wise ;)
Calling me a "wallace lover" is childish ::). He'll be gone in 15 months so I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Rather spend the money in areas we need rather than pay deadmoney paying him out.
he will gone before this season is over not 15months
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
Cant have it both ways fools.
Do it the way Carltank did it last year. Have the pressure build up when we lose to Melbourne. Then lose to Carlton in our centennary then in the Port game get blown away by 20 goals that should get the board holding an emergency meeting and sacking the solarium boy on the Tuesday. Even Blind Freddie or whoever will be the new coaching apointee will know straight away that losing the remainder 7 or 8 games is what the club must do to go forward in terms of solidifying and stablilising your list going forward and trying to fill the gaps in our list. Blues did it last year as much as we hated it and we must do it this year no ifs and buts. That way we can have it both ways. Tank and get rid of Terry b/c as long as Terry is here and feeling the heat he may try to coach us to a win which will mean sweet FA ultimately to him to the club and to the fans in a desperate and vain attempt to hang on to his job.
If he coaches the way he did on the weekend with a similar game plan, there isnt any hope for win in the near future unless we play a team of witches hats :lol
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Its was two peoples opinions, both opposition scouts from other clubs.
And you know that unlike you I don't give a rats about what other clubs scouts think. You seem to hang on every word they say ;D
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
:lol I think you are onto something there Bentleigh-esque, if people want the tank then why oh why would you sack the coach :whistle :clapping ;D
Anyway back to the topic which IIRC was Coburg -v- Werribeen ot another Wallace bashing exercise.
I didn't see much of the ressies - but I thought Danny Meyer is looking fitter every game. Rainesy & Casserley bith got through OK too.
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Its was two peoples opinions, both opposition scouts from other clubs.
And you know that unlike you I don't give a rats about what other clubs scouts think. You seem to hang on every word they say ;D
I do, especially with 2 new AFL teams coming in . You will give a rats when we lose players
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Its was two peoples opinions, both opposition scouts from other clubs.
And you know that unlike you I don't give a rats about what other clubs scouts think. You seem to hang on every word they say ;D
Same people that want to sack the coach because the team isnt winning are the ones that want to tank.
:lol I think you are onto something there Bentleigh-esque, if people want the tank then why oh why would you sack the coach :whistle :clapping ;D
Anyway back to the topic which IIRC was Coburg -v- Werribeen ot another Wallace bashing exercise.
I didn't see much of the ressies - but I thought Danny Meyer is looking fitter every game. Rainesy & Casserley bith got through OK too.
WP i thought u had some footy nous maybe i was wrong
the reason is simple wallace wants to win as many games as possible much like Pagan in his final year.
do you think TW has got tanking on his mind when he knows he needs to get runs on the board and fast.
however a new coach, fresh ideas would want to jump on the tank train.
a new coach would enforce the tank against the dees or freo in round 21, wheras TW knows he must win those games to keep the wolves at bay.
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WP i thought u had some footy nous maybe i was wrong
the reason is simple wallace wants to win as many games as possible much like Pagan in his final year.
do you think TW has got tanking on his mind when he knows he needs to get runs on the board and fast.
however a new coach, fresh ideas would want to jump on the tank train.
a new coach would enforce the tank against the dees or freo in round 21, wheras TW knows he must win those games to keep the wolves at bay.
Daniel - there are 2 distinct questions here, for me at least.
1/ Do we tank or do we try and win? - After 26 years of being nowhere, the thought of tanking doesn't work for me. What does that teach the kids we currently have. Are you telling me to tank for the remainder of the year is going to be good for the likes of a Cotchin, who is going to be an absolute gun ??? A player by the way was recruited by the current football department, who everyone keeps telling me on this board supposedly doesn't have the vaguest clue about anything?
FACTS are rightly or wrongly that in the last 2 weeks we have played 6 of the crappiest quarters of football ever - you tell me that the first half against wasn't OK? The fact that it was OK made the 2nd half all the more disgraceful IMHO.
However, whether people want to admit it or not until the Sydney game, there had been improvement, the game plan and excution of it was showing some promise. That's not spin doctoring that's what the results showed.
2nd question is do we sack the coach: Again just my opinion but I don't think it will achieve anything but appease people in the short term.
And then my answer to the question is who do we replace him with? K Sheedy and his cronies - please give me a break :chuck
I don't believe in sacking coaches, never have, never will because sacking a coach only fills the cracks, plugs the holes - it is the easiest way out and gee it makes everyone feel a bit better for a little while. But what happens in 2 years, 3 years time and we are still here tapping away here frustrated because again we think nothing has changed
Again and this just IMHO there a few players that should go before the coach does but to do that I suppose it's all a bit difficult isn't it.
As I said it's just my opinion but I will give you one of these :thumbsup Daniel because at least you have been super consistent in your dislike of Wallace
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I am against tanking.
Reason being other clubs can re group eg Brisbane ,Port, Kangaroos, Collingwood etc
As for the coach, I sat behind him and worked with him for 2 years, he has to go..
You know why I am so angry and mad at the moment? Wallace is ruining the place and people are letting him get away with it.
If you think instructing players to kick the ball 10-15 metres is the right way to go, we might as well relocate to the gold coast.
He isnt the person to take us anywhere.
He ruined the bulldogs and doing the same with us.
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Looks like Jack and his apologist are back with avengence. :banghead
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I laugh when people think we have improved. :lol
The bottom four sides are terrible, we aint improved.
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Who have we beaten ppl. Freo 1 win Essendon 2 wins and we beat them last yr also and Carlton who are a better side now than they were at the start of the year when we beat them. Now if we win 5.5 games for the year and finish 14th or 13th statistically are we better than we were last year when the only difference to our side from last yr was that Cotchin was actually playing? We aint better far from it if anything we are worse the last 2 weeks have seen to this.
TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK
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Looks like Jack and his apologist are back with avengence. :banghead
Sticking up for Terry are we ? :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I laugh when people think we have improved. :lol
The bottom four sides are terrible, we aint improved.
I laugh when I hear you go on and on about the same thing for the last 18 months :lol or should it be :banghead You say you are not disgruntled but that is how you appear.
let me see... for 3 weeks or so we didn't hear a peep out of you - why was that exactly...could it have been because... struth we were playing Ok - not great but OK. Then right on queue you reappear when there is a bad loss and you keep going on an on about the same things - nothing new just the same old same old.
This thread was about the Coburg -v- Werribee game, not wallace but Coburg but as per normal you take that and turn it into another bash Wallace thread
And just on Wallace
You say:
As for the coach, I sat behind him and worked with him for 2 years, he has to go..
You know why I am so angry and mad at the moment? Wallace is ruining the place and people are letting him get away with it.
2 years you say - well why did it take you so long to work all this out ??? 2 years is a long time in footy, so why did it take so long for you to work it out? That I don't get. I really don't. You constantly hit us with what you call "facts" and in the process you be-little people simply becuase they don't agree with you, you call them fools and and indiots and then you wonder why people think you are disgruntled?
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Rhett Jordan played a great game for the Coburg ressies on the weekend. A few spots have opened up with injury and he has certainly put his hand up.
4 handy goals and nearly took a big hanger. Looked very confident on the weekend.
Putt was VERY good also.
Plenty of fists thrown during the match also. :shh
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Plenty of fists thrown during the match also. :shh
:lol :lol ... sadly
:yep :yep
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I laugh when people think we have improved. :lol
The bottom four sides are terrible, we aint improved.
I laugh when I hear you go on and on about the same thing for the last 18 months :lol or should it be :banghead You say you are not disgruntled but that is how you appear.
let me see... for 3 weeks or so we didn't hear a peep out of you - why was that exactly...could it have been because... struth we were playing Ok - not great but OK. Then right on queue you reappear when there is a bad loss and you keep going on an on about the same things - nothing new just the same old same old.
This thread was about the Coburg -v- Werribee game, not wallace but Coburg but as per normal you take that and turn it into another bash Wallace thread
And just on Wallace
You say:
As for the coach, I sat behind him and worked with him for 2 years, he has to go..
You know why I am so angry and mad at the moment? Wallace is ruining the place and people are letting him get away with it.
2 years you say - well why did it take you so long to work all this out ??? 2 years is a long time in footy, so why did it take so long for you to work it out? That I don't get. I really don't. You constantly hit us with what you call "facts" and in the process you be-little people simply becuase they don't agree with you, you call them fools and and indiots and then you wonder why people think you are disgruntled?
We havent improved, you entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.
Four years of rubbish if you ask me, that the problem with the RFC, all talk, no balls.
What did March say at the start of the year, let our performances do the talking
Problem with you WP , you say I biased, you more biased than anyone here, now lets talk about the topic at hand, coburg
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We havent improved, you entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.
There you go Jackie - we agree :thumbsup
Problem with you WP , you say I biased, you more biased than anyone here, now lets talk about the topic at hand, coburg
I am more biased than anyone here ..that's very funny indeed :rollin :rollin
then again perhaps I am Jack .. or perhaps it's the old glass half full versus the glass half empty. You think empty, I think full.... it is all about perception isn't it.....
And the topic....
Coburg are going along quite nicely
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coburg are extremely well run
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coburg are extremely well run
:rollin
and coached :thumbsup
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WP i thought u had some footy nous maybe i was wrong
the reason is simple wallace wants to win as many games as possible much like Pagan in his final year.
do you think TW has got tanking on his mind when he knows he needs to get runs on the board and fast.
however a new coach, fresh ideas would want to jump on the tank train.
a new coach would enforce the tank against the dees or freo in round 21, wheras TW knows he must win those games to keep the wolves at bay.
Daniel - there are 2 distinct questions here, for me at least.
1/ Do we tank or do we try and win? - After 26 years of being nowhere, the thought of tanking doesn't work for me. What does that teach the kids we currently have. Are you telling me to tank for the remainder of the year is going to be good for the likes of a Cotchin, who is going to be an absolute gun ??? A player by the way was recruited by the current football department, who everyone keeps telling me on this board supposedly doesn't have the vaguest clue about anything?
FACTS are rightly or wrongly that in the last 2 weeks we have played 6 of the crappiest quarters of football ever - you tell me that the first half against wasn't OK? The fact that it was OK made the 2nd half all the more disgraceful IMHO.
However, whether people want to admit it or not until the Sydney game, there had been improvement, the game plan and excution of it was showing some promise. That's not spin doctoring that's what the results showed.
2nd question is do we sack the coach: Again just my opinion but I don't think it will achieve anything but appease people in the short term.
And then my answer to the question is who do we replace him with? K Sheedy and his cronies - please give me a break :chuck
I don't believe in sacking coaches, never have, never will because sacking a coach only fills the cracks, plugs the holes - it is the easiest way out and gee it makes everyone feel a bit better for a little while. But what happens in 2 years, 3 years time and we are still here tapping away here frustrated because again we think nothing has changed
Again and this just IMHO there a few players that should go before the coach does but to do that I suppose it's all a bit difficult isn't it.
As I said it's just my opinion but I will give you one of these :thumbsup Daniel because at least you have been super consistent in your dislike of Wallace
Good Post.
Richmond as a club has needed structural change to catch up over 25 years of disfunction. The 1987 VFL expansion has coincided with RFC's worst performing period - worse than the post war years to the mid 60's.
The structure of the club has had to be dragged kicking & screaming into the AFL era as it has been myred by in-fighting and a retribution culture. RFC is not the envy of the league - that was 1974 !!!!
Ray Dunn had the vision of a club that would be modern for its time based at the MCG, play an exciting brand of long-kicking, high marking contested footy that would be mass marketed to the baby boomer generation coupled with appeal to an increasingly interested corporate sector. He recruited key personnel in GR, Schwab and basically got the front office in order.
Steve Wright's appointment is, IMHO, the cornerstone on which a sustained campaign can commence. The recruiting & football department has at last recognised that short cuts will not provide sustained success (whilst I acknowledge there have been 2 instances of deviation in Polak & MacMahon) there has been no trading for 'marque' players (eg. Johnno & Brown) oe even where a Sziller, Stafford or King has been recruited to the club
In brief, sacking coaches does has not worked for 25 years during the transition from semi-professional to the full professional era, and patience is and will continue to be required to put the platform in place to achieve a sustained competitive list.
To sack the coach 3.5 years into a 5 year deal is reactionary at best and akin to blinking when faced with a serious challenge.
RFC should stay the course for at least the remainder of this season and conduct a comprehensive review of operations from board level to boot studder at the conclusion of the season. The full football department should be given a comprehensive aim so as to avoid motherhood statements like the mediocraty clause.
If the aims for the 2009 season (whatever they are they should be public knowledge to encourage ownership through the organisational strata) aren't achieved a large broom should be used as everyone should be on notice.
No more spin, no more mediocraty & no more populist reactionary key decision making.
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no surprise that you agree with that darth.
do me a favour and tell me how many clubs would stay with a coach when they haven't made the finals for 4 possibly 5 years.
i dont think there is a club in the afl now that would keep the coach till the end of his term.
you may believe the spin that comes out of TW's mouth but i dont.
its spin thats what it is and we should find a coach that will instill some toughness in the players. we are weak do you understand what that means and its his fault. our last 3 coaches have all been the same..weak!!!
thats what we dont need with our next coach
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....now lets talk about the topic at hand...
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mmmkay :chuck
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Rhett Jordan played a great game for the Coburg ressies on the weekend. A few spots have opened up with injury and he has certainly put his hand up.
4 handy goals and nearly took a big hanger. Looked very confident on the weekend.
Putt was VERY good also.
Plenty of fists thrown during the match also. :shh
Thanks
I will watch his progress with interest.
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I completely agree with you both WP and Darth. Sacking the coach would be detrimental to our progress as a team and club.
For far too long we have wallowed in the bottom half of the leader and it is mainly due to fear, unrealistic expectation and impatience from supporters, administration and story hungry media.
We are still have a reputuation for sacking coaches and turning on our own. TW only agreed to take the coaching position at our club if he could have the time to rebuild the list and space to develop the recruits. In the past our coaches have been too fearful of losing their positions to even attempt to rebuild and have traded away our draft picks and brought in senior players in an attempt to save their skins before the axe came down.
It is this impatient call for the caoched to be sacked that has got us into the predicament we have been in for 25 odd years. It is counter productive and does nothing but damage our club and culture.
Let TW see out this rebuild. Kids can not compete against men so give them time. 2009 is the watershed year for the club and TW.
If we do not make the finals next year then it will be time to recruit a new coach but I for one think the current administration and coaching board should be commended on what they are trying to do. The easy thing would have been trying to top up but we are genuinely trying to rebuild.
Next year we will see if the rebuild has been successful and even if it hasn't I still believe it was the right thing to do.
We need to be patient starting with our coach.... :pray
Stripes
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Well guys I just waded though this whole tread trying to find out reports on the players from the Coburg vs Werribee game. Didnt get much info did I.
Please guys dont turn this board into a board where every thread turns out the same.
Tank / not tank
Sack TW / not sack TW
These players should go / These players should stay.
The above topics have no business in this thread and unless some of you (you know who you are) stop this crap poeple will stop comming and reading.
We need threads like the training tread , the resiess match reports and others to be about the topic. Maybe we could sticky the three topics above and make a policy these are the only place these should be talked about.
Just about had enough Fluffy
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Well guys I just waded though this whole tread trying to find out reports on the players from the Coburg vs Werribee game. Didnt get much info did I.
Please guys dont turn this board into a board where every thread turns out the same.
Tank / not tank
Sack TW / not sack TW
These players should go / These players should stay.
The above topics have no business in this thread and unless some of you (you know who you are) stop this crap poeple will stop comming and reading.
We need threads like the training tread , the resiess match reports and others to be about the topic. Maybe we could sticky the three topics above and make a policy these are the only place these should be talked about.
Just about had enough Fluffy
That makes two of us :thumbsup
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I dont think i posted on this thread since page 2, and that post was calling for a Alex Rance debut. I understand everyone, I agree that the tank posts, sacking posts etc. belong on other threads.
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As for the coach, I sat behind him and worked with him for 2 years, he has to go..
one can only fathom what it must of been like working with you :shh
at least its good to see you've finally found the platform that more suits your level of talent.
being an internet hero for the masses from your own living room :thumbsup
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no surprise that you agree with that darth.
do me a favour and tell me how many clubs would stay with a coach when they haven't made the finals for 4 possibly 5 years.
i dont think there is a club in the afl now that would keep the coach till the end of his term.
you may believe the spin that comes out of TW's mouth but i dont.
its spin thats what it is and we should find a coach that will instill some toughness in the players. we are weak do you understand what that means and its his fault. our last 3 coaches have all been the same..weak!!!
thats what we dont need with our next coach
I personally don't believe the spin and can distinguish between hyperbole & trite (that's for you Jackstar) :banghead.
I believe that true leadership is sometimes staring down reactionary's 70% through a plan and maintaining the course direction because there will be some roadbumps along the way.
Would you agree that the RFC is a club in a superior financial position and playing list position than were it was at the end of 2004 ?
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WP i thought u had some footy nous maybe i was wrong
the reason is simple wallace wants to win as many games as possible much like Pagan in his final year.
do you think TW has got tanking on his mind when he knows he needs to get runs on the board and fast.
however a new coach, fresh ideas would want to jump on the tank train.
a new coach would enforce the tank against the dees or freo in round 21, wheras TW knows he must win those games to keep the wolves at bay.
Daniel - there are 2 distinct questions here, for me at least.
1/ Do we tank or do we try and win? - After 26 years of being nowhere, the thought of tanking doesn't work for me. What does that teach the kids we currently have. Are you telling me to tank for the remainder of the year is going to be good for the likes of a Cotchin, who is going to be an absolute gun ??? A player by the way was recruited by the current football department, who everyone keeps telling me on this board supposedly doesn't have the vaguest clue about anything?
FACTS are rightly or wrongly that in the last 2 weeks we have played 6 of the crappiest quarters of football ever - you tell me that the first half against wasn't OK? The fact that it was OK made the 2nd half all the more disgraceful IMHO.
However, whether people want to admit it or not until the Sydney game, there had been improvement, the game plan and excution of it was showing some promise. That's not spin doctoring that's what the results showed.
2nd question is do we sack the coach: Again just my opinion but I don't think it will achieve anything but appease people in the short term.
And then my answer to the question is who do we replace him with? K Sheedy and his cronies - please give me a break :chuck
I don't believe in sacking coaches, never have, never will because sacking a coach only fills the cracks, plugs the holes - it is the easiest way out and gee it makes everyone feel a bit better for a little while. But what happens in 2 years, 3 years time and we are still here tapping away here frustrated because again we think nothing has changed
Again and this just IMHO there a few players that should go before the coach does but to do that I suppose it's all a bit difficult isn't it.
As I said it's just my opinion but I will give you one of these :thumbsup Daniel because at least you have been super consistent in your dislike of Wallace
Tanking wont hurt the like of Cotchin.
Winning a game next to Edwards, White, Rance, Morton, McGaune types in the side is going to make Cotchin a hella of alot better than winning games next to the like of Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tivendale, Howatt.
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Forgive my ignorance but who is Jackstar that worked behind wallace for 2 years?
Is his identity a known fact if so, does anyone care to share?
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Forgive my ignorance but who is Jackstar that worked behind wallace for 2 years?
Is his identity a known fact if so, does anyone care to share?
Jackstar is TW's gym bag come to life.
You'd be bitter as well spending two years being stuffed with Terry's smelly jocks and socks.
:thumbsup
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Forgive my ignorance but who is Jackstar that worked behind wallace for 2 years?
Is his identity a known fact if so, does anyone care to share?
Jackstar is TW's gym bag come to life.
You'd be bitter as well spending two years being stuffed with Terry's smelly jocks and socks.
:thumbsup
pretty close but he was actually Terry's exercise bike seat for two years :whistle
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I dont think i posted on this thread since page 2, and that post was calling for a Alex Rance debut. I understand everyone, I agree that the tank posts, sacking posts etc. belong on other threads.
Argh yes Coburg ;D the original topic
Ramps, I thought Rance played a very good game indeed. Personally, I'd like to see him put a few games like Sunday together before he gets his chance. I think there are a couple of others who've played consistently over the last 3-4 weeks who dseserve the nod first (eg Polo and even Hughes).
The most exciting thing about rance was his pace- for a bloke of his size struth he is quick
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I dont think i posted on this thread since page 2, and that post was calling for a Alex Rance debut. I understand everyone, I agree that the tank posts, sacking posts etc. belong on other threads.
Argh yes Coburg ;D the original topic
Ramps, I thought Rance played a very good game indeed. Personally, I'd like to see him put a few games like Sunday together before he gets his chance. I think there are a couple of others who've played consistently over the last 3-4 weeks who dseserve the nod first (eg Polo and even Hughes).
The most exciting thing about rance was his pace- for a bloke of his size struth he is quick
Time to play the kids.
Melbourne might be a good opp to play Rance, see what he can do. (esp with Thursty out)
Hell I'd play TW's gym bag just to mix it up a bit.
I just hope we drop Bowden, Tiv and Petts.
We might just start winning again
:gotigers
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Time to play the kids.
Melbourne might be a good opp to play Rance, see what he can do. (esp with Thursty out)
Hell I'd play TW's gym bag just to mix it up a bit.
I just hope we drop Bowden, Tiv and Petts.
We might just start winning again
:gotigers
I hear what your saying '65
Actually said to mate over the weekend I'd rather just play the kids.
But to be fair I reckon you have to reward the kids who've played consistently first and that's the likes of Polo, JON, Hughes, Collins, Connors
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Forgive my ignorance but who is Jackstar that worked behind wallace for 2 years?
Is his identity a known fact if so, does anyone care to share?
Jackstar is TW's gym bag come to life.
You'd be bitter as well spending two years being stuffed with Terry's smelly jocks and socks.
:thumbsup
pretty close but he was actually Terry's exercise bike seat for two years :whistle
Rumour of possible possum scats.
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I dont think i posted on this thread since page 2, and that post was calling for a Alex Rance debut. I understand everyone, I agree that the tank posts, sacking posts etc. belong on other threads.
Argh yes Coburg ;D the original topic
Ramps, I thought Rance played a very good game indeed. Personally, I'd like to see him put a few games like Sunday together before he gets his chance. I think there are a couple of others who've played consistently over the last 3-4 weeks who dseserve the nod first (eg Polo and even Hughes).
The most exciting thing about rance was his pace- for a bloke of his size struth he is quick
Time to play the kids.
Melbourne might be a good opp to play Rance, see what he can do. (esp with Thursty out)
Hell I'd play TW's gym bag just to mix it up a bit.
I just hope we drop Bowden, Tiv and Petts.
We might just start winning again
:gotigers
petts and tivs yes but bowden i dunno imo i really feel he has done his job.
the other 2 most definately but i have a lot of respect for Joel, a 2 time best and fairest player.
no way in this world has he been our worst player. i put about a dozen players ahead of him..
in saying that if it meant i will say rance anytime soon then goodbye.
thats what i used to love about sheeds. he used to promote a youngster when no one expected it.
i think its time for 2 debutants this week..
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I dont think i posted on this thread since page 2, and that post was calling for a Alex Rance debut. I understand everyone, I agree that the tank posts, sacking posts etc. belong on other threads.
Argh yes Coburg ;D the original topic
Ramps, I thought Rance played a very good game indeed. Personally, I'd like to see him put a few games like Sunday together before he gets his chance. I think there are a couple of others who've played consistently over the last 3-4 weeks who dseserve the nod first (eg Polo and even Hughes).
The most exciting thing about rance was his pace- for a bloke of his size struth he is quick
Rance does have good pace, but he isnt as quick as Dave Gourdis. He is lightening quick, very impressive. He will be very hard to beat on Grand Final day in the sprint!!!
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Good to see we are not lacking pace in some of of our younger players waiting in the wings.
Rance Gourdis Connors Collard
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Gourdis will come good to IMHO. Whether its as a Full Back or a Key Forward- or even as a tall WING playing a Richo role - Gourdis's athleticism should see him come through.
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and he is a wog which is maybe that vital ingredient that we have been missing at punt road.
play the greek god maybe he will be the next kouta
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Gourdis will come good to IMHO. Whether its as a Full Back or a Key Forward- or even as a tall WING playing a Richo role - Gourdis's athleticism should see him come through.
Hopefully he is working hard on any kicking deficiencies he has. I believe he will come good also. An athlete playing footy. Has a big ticker just like the Great Man.
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I totally agree Ramps, Gourdis could be a very damaging on a wing.
He needs to do his time down back as he currently is because i think he may have suffered from dominating up fwd as a junior. I think coz he dominated as a fwd he has never really learnt the art of also being defensive.
He has come on in leaps and bounds which has been encouraging. He works hard and is disappointed in himself when he does the wrong thing.
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I totally agree Ramps, Gourdis could be a very damaging on a wing.
He needs to do his time down back as he currently is because i think he may have suffered from dominating up fwd as a junior. I think coz he dominated as a fwd he has never really learnt the art of also being defensive.
He has come on in leaps and bounds which has been encouraging. He works hard and is disappointed in himself when he does the wrong thing.
Has he bulked up TFL without sacrificing pace ?
Is he playing on shorter opponents and winning balls at ground level, or playing a predominant running link-type role ?
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certainly have high hopes for gourdis.....i'm not overly fussed where he plays....tho if his kicking can be improved it woudl be tantalising having him as a key forward with his blistering speed and leap....would be hard to match...
if not....he coudl be the answer to buddy franklin in our backline....got the speed and the jumping ability to keep up with buddy...big boy too by all reports...
very promising indeed
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certainly have high hopes for gourdis.....i'm not overly fussed where he plays....tho if his kicking can be improved it woudl be tantalising having him as a key forward with his blistering speed and leap....would be hard to match...
if not....he coudl be the answer to buddy franklin in our backline....got the speed and the jumping ability to keep up with buddy...big boy too by all reports...
very promising indeed
Richmond have a habit of drafting players who cant kick
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certainly have high hopes for gourdis.....i'm not overly fussed where he plays....tho if his kicking can be improved it woudl be tantalising having him as a key forward with his blistering speed and leap....would be hard to match...
if not....he coudl be the answer to buddy franklin in our backline....got the speed and the jumping ability to keep up with buddy...big boy too by all reports...
very promising indeed
Agree - though I reckon he will take some time. Important to not go overboard with the expectations, like we do sometimes ;D
Very good mark btw
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Well guys I just waded though this whole tread trying to find out reports on the players from the Coburg vs Werribee game. Didnt get much info did I.
Please guys dont turn this board into a board where every thread turns out the same.
Tank / not tank
Sack TW / not sack TW
These players should go / These players should stay.
The above topics have no business in this thread and unless some of you (you know who you are) stop this crap poeple will stop comming and reading.
We need threads like the training tread , the resiess match reports and others to be about the topic. Maybe we could sticky the three topics above and make a policy these are the only place these should be talked about.
Just about had enough Fluffy
That makes two of us :thumbsup
Good luck Fluffy.
It would be nice if we could keep the negative, self serving, barrow pushing, repetitive discussion to just 1 or 2 threads. The Coburg thread has always been an oasis in the sea of discontent but even this is not safe from the ravages of the feral hoards.
The board is hard to read at the moment, so many posts to ignore, and the good ones get lost.
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Oops. Just realised how long ago you posted this. Told you the good posts get lost. Sorry to bring this back to the top. Carry on. :thumbsup
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Stats (from EOTT):
Jack - 10 marks, kicked 5.4
Rance - 35 disposals, 5 tackles
Howat - 35 disposals after a quiet start
Morton - 31 disposals
Polo - 29 disposals
JON - 28 disposals, 9 marks, 5 tackles
Hyde - 27 disposals
Jackson - 24 disposals in 3 qtrs (injured last qtr)
Graham - 19 disposals, 10 marks
Cartledge - 21 disposals
Collard - 22 disposals, 6 tackles
Full player descriptions at:
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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Stats (from EOTT):
Jack - 10 marks, kicked 5.4
Rance - 35 disposals, 5 tackles
Howat - 35 disposals after a quiet start
Morton - 31 disposals
Polo - 29 disposals
JON - 28 disposals, 9 marks, 5 tackles
Hyde - 27 disposals
Jackson - 24 disposals in 3 qtrs (injured last qtr)
Graham - 19 disposals, 10 marks
Cartledge - 21 disposals
Collard - 22 disposals, 6 tackles
Full player descriptions at:
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
Now there is a nice set of numbers for the future of the RFC.
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Match Report Vs. Werribee
coburgtigers.com.au
The Coburg sides travelled over to Werribee this week to take on their namesake Werribee ‘Tigers’. After a run of four successive wins, the Coburg side went into the match as favourites.
The Burgers came out firing in the first quarter, kicking 13 scoring shots to Werribee’s measly 2, and from there the game was pretty safely in Coburg’s grasp for the rest of the match. Although inaccurate, the Burger boys left with a comfortable 37 point win.
¼ Time: Coburg 7.6 (48) Werribee 1.1 (7)
After such a dominant first quarter from Coburg, Werribee lifted their work rate and fought back in the second term kicking four goals and holding Coburg to only two. Both sides backlines held up well, and the play wasn’t as free flowing as it had been.
After a large stint with Richmond Jack Riewoldt returned to the Coburg side and teamed up with goal kicking team mate Cleve Hughes in the forward line. Together the two were lethal as they kicked 9 of the Burgers 14 goals for the match.
Cleve Hughes has one of the best set of hands in the VFL and was dominant in the air. He along with a lot of other Burger players will be highly looked at when the VFL side of the year is selected at the end of the year.
½ Time: Coburg 9.8 (62) Werribee 5.3 (33)
Coburg were extremely wasteful up forward in the third quarter as they kicked a very inaccurate 3 goals 8 behinds. Fortunately it didn’t matter too much as The Coburg backmen were supreme and held their opposition to only 8 points for the term.
Alex Rance produced his finest game yet for the Burgers in a classy display that saw him collect many possessions and put a tight hold on his opponent. Angus Graham also played his best game for the season teaming up well with Tristan Cartledge in the ruck. The two are great at always providing a contest in the middle and giving their mates first use of the ball.
¾ Time: Coburg 12.16 (88) Werribee 6.5 (41)
Going into the last quarter the Burgers held a formidable 47 point lead.
Dean Polo returned to his best form with a best on ground display.
He used the ball as well as anyone on the ground and found plenty of it. After a very solid display for the year in the seconds, Clayton Collard debuted for the Burger seniors and put in a fantastic effort. Clayton was involved in many goal assists and his pressure on the ball was ferocious. Cam Howat and Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls were also standout players for Coburg.
The Burgers head down to Tassie this week to take on the Devils on Saturday starting at 1.00pm, while the Reserves have another bye.
Coburg Tigers 7.6 9.8 12.16 14.19 (103)
Werribee Tigers 1.1 5.3 6.5 10.6 (66)
Goal Kickers: C. Hughes 5, J. Riewoldt 4, C. Howat, A. Graham, F. Caruso, A. Collins, C. Collard
Best Players: D. Polo, A. Rance, C. Collard, C. Howat, J. Oakley-Nicholls, A. Graham
RESERVES
The Reserves made it seven wins from seven starts as they made fairly easy work of Werribee. After a tight first quarter the boys ran away with it in the second term kicking 7 goals, finishing the match with a 74 point victory.
Rhett Jordan kicked in with 4 goals, while Travis Casserly and Josh Jones added 6 between them. Steve Foster and Glen Carrick were the Burgers best on the day.
Coburg Tigers 3.6 10.11 13.19 20.23 (143)
Werribee Tigers 3.5 6.6 6.8 10.9 (69)
Goal Kickers: R. Jordan 4, T. Casserly 3, J. Jones 3, J. De Sousa 2, D. Putt 2, B. Clifton 2, P. Currie, D. Rayson, G. Carrick, T. Groves
Best Players: S. Foster, G. Carrick, R. Jordan, T. Casserly, J. Jones, N. Cattapan
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-0&sID=56260&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5580830§ionID=56260
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Just about had enough Fluffy
That makes two of us :thumbsup
Good luck Fluffy.
It would be nice if we could keep the negative, self serving, barrow pushing, repetitive discussion to just 1 or 2 threads. The Coburg thread has always been an oasis in the sea of discontent but even this is not safe from the ravages of the feral hoards.
The board is hard to read at the moment, so many posts to ignore, and the good ones get lost.
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Here here. Have a whinge if you must but surely a couple of times is enough to get your point across. Why hijack every single damn post with your negative crap? Spoils the debate sifting through the tripe.
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Just about had enough Fluffy
That makes two of us :thumbsup
Good luck Fluffy.
It would be nice if we could keep the negative, self serving, barrow pushing, repetitive discussion to just 1 or 2 threads. The Coburg thread has always been an oasis in the sea of discontent but even this is not safe from the ravages of the feral hoards.
The board is hard to read at the moment, so many posts to ignore, and the good ones get lost.
Here here. Have a whinge if you must but surely a couple of times is enough to get your point across. Why hijack every single damn post with your negative crap? Spoils the debate sifting through the tripe.
[/quote]That make it three of us :thumbsup
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Well I count at least 5 Mopsy, but I think there may be a few more out there just watching with interest as to what happens. Its also nice to see some actaul discussion about the Coburg match. I think and hope the message has been taken and the thread for the Coburg match this week will be about just that.
I live in hope anyway as I love this board. :gotigers
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Same here. That makes 6.